When people say someone can't get a relationship because of their personality they are not talking about not helping enough old ladies across the street. They are talking about a guy being too mild, considerate, inoffensive, overly socialized, quiet, shy, unassuming and selfless. That is 100%, not true. When women in here say “maybe it’s your personality” or “ahh now I see why you can’t get laid” in response to a guy defending himself or acting naturally frustrated with their deflections and ad …
When people say someone can't get a relationship because of their personality they are not talking about not helping enough old ladies across the street. They are talking about a guy being too mild, considerate, inoffensive, overly socialized, quiet, shy, unassuming and selfless. That is 100%, not true. When women in here say “maybe it’s your personality” or “ahh now I see why you can’t get laid” in response to a guy defending himself or acting naturally frustrated with their deflections and ad …
Yeah how a guy looks has nothing to do with whether or not a girl fucks him, it’s all about how he walks and how he talks. And that, my friends, is the difference between red pill and black pill.
Its also a female DISADVANTAGE. I'm an average looking guy and I have a much greater chance of landing a hottie than an average looking girl has at landing a really hot guy. That is simply not true
This was approved by the other mods, you can’t just remove it because you don’t like the subject under the guise of “spamming.” Nothing about this is spam, the only reason it has been reposted is because it was removed previously for “OP abandonment” because I was at work and couldn’t respond but has since been restored in light of the misunderstanding.
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Not one man, of any caliber, would reject an attractive woman because she was “socially awkward.” Never mint that women will reject a good looking guy for less, as little as a delayed text response can bury him.
A normal guy should be able to eat ice cream free. The fact that he can't is indicative of the overall problem with eating ice cream in 2022. How is this in any way an accurate analogy?
Ad hominem attacks and suggesting any man who struggles with women is mentally handicapped is most certainly against both the subs rule’s and the Reddit user agreement.
And here you see women’s privilege firsthand. No man of any level of attractiveness would reject any remotely attractive women because she “cold” approached him.
Most men get married. Most men get LTR. The ones who don't are largely disabled, POC/immigrants, and really creepy dudes. Ahh there we go, the token hyperbolic disparaging comment labeling any man who struggles in any way as handicapped or “cReEpY” 🥴🤡 or god forbid immigrants 🤣 not surprising FDS loonies are racist.
No one said women don’t have difficulty dating, the diminishment you are describing is what’s known as backlash. Women have this tit for tat mentality where any complaint a man makes must be leveled by an equal struggle women experience, when men quite clearly have it significantly worse in all aspects in this arena. As I’ve articulated in a previous thread, sex and relationships are two sides of the same coin.
Literally zero men are complaining about having to make an effort. Men are complaining about having to make as much effort or more for women less attractive than them or other women who require the same effort.
Oh lord you guys just love to twist words. I am clearly saying that no one is implying relationships don’t involve sex, but that the implication is that men ONLY want sex in most women’s responses.
The woman in the story clearly knew what she wanted. She wanted to flirt a little bit, but not actually go home and fuck him the same night. For the 500th time, where in my OP does it say ANYTHING about even ALLUDING to sex???
OP you are not giving all the information in your story and/or are lying about parts of (if not all) of it. What you described is not real interaction that could have taken place. You bluntly asked for sex. That’s why she was turned off because you don’t understand subtlety. 🥴
Huh? Where did I say ANYTHING about sex?? There should be a rule against somebody using PPD as their circle jerk therapy group Translation: “there should be a rule against saying things I dont like or discussing uncomfortable truths.” This is a neutral debate forum not a blue pill echo chamber, sorry.
“Sexual” prime yes no one is disputing that. That is because estrogen levels decline and T levels increase, obv. Men don’t care about that if their physical prime expired a decade earlier.
Wrong. Women peak physically around 22-24. There are exceptions of course, and plenty of women lose weight or are late bloomers but as a general rule women’s looks begin to decline after 25. Most men as well, although there are a significant number of them who look good well into their 30s, far more than women.
The problem with you is that you don’t trust the judgment of men who rank higher than you in the hierarchy Being rich, famous and good looking doesn’t automatically make you successful with women (even though it should.) That is my whole point.
NO,average/below average men always feels entitled to the women out of their leagues so they try to brainwash women to lower their physical attraction standards(mostly about height and face) and they refuse to accept that women dislike short ugly males and try to act like "Nice Guys" This, but the exact opposite
Why is he allowed to endlessly circlejerk in every single post and every single response. Translation: why is this guy allowed to say things that I disagree with or challenge my false perception of reality and call out my privilege?
Men aren’t genuinely “misandrist” the guys trash talking other dudes are either 1. Protecting their offspring/siblings 2. Cockblocking/competing or 3. Projecting.
The issue will be that the men least interested in working for less than they are worth and removing themselves from the dating market are the most desirable guys, and eventually the market will be comprised mostly of thirsty simps. We are already seeing this start to happen.
Yeah if they were ever interested to begin with. Women generally lose interest in going out after 24/25, and rarely socialize like they did in their teens/early 20s the closer they get to 30. They generally have ridiculously high standards, no matter how average they are, and so would rather stay home alone and feel sorry for themselves then get with a guy at or slightly above their attractiveness/income/personality level.
And obviously most women have more options than men because men are indiscriminate and swipe on/hit on everyone whether they share common ground or not. Exactly, and why do you think that is???
The fact that women have a laundry list of criteria you must meet on top of being attractive while offering little to nothing of value themselves (often not even looks) and that if you fail to tick even one of those boxes you’re out, also perfectly reinforces my point.
I'd suggest you see what you're doing that causes them to flake so you can avoid repeating the same mistakes over and over again. Do you not read? The flaking we are describing as nothing to do with us 99% of the time. That’s the point, otherwise it would be justifiably losing interest due to our own missteps and not “flaking.”
Yeah I’ve thought about this, it is probably unhealthy to continue debating the women here as the frustration of dealing with them will eventually carry over into my real life interactions or have some influence in how I view the women we are actually interested in who are completely different.
You are wasting your breath, she thinks that because these few in power happened to be men that there was some sort of trickle down benefit to males as a whole, or that the influence of men being in power somehow oppressed middle class women any differently than middle class men or created a society whereby men had a major advantage.
And yes, it affects men at the bottom, that was part of my point. I even just said patriarchy affects men too. 99.999% of men ARE at the bottom, that’s the point. Some guy making 150k working some corporate job may be slightly more comfortable than the guy working at Kroger but both are peons compared to the handful of old reptiles who make up the oligarchy that you want to label a patriarchy. Meanwhile the word is used as some sort of weapon against these same middle class men and as an excuse …
The reason why women are choosier is simply because men pursue, women get pursued. Exactly, and why do you think that is?? All of these “reasons” are not primary but secondary reasons. The underlying cause for all of these residual effects is exactly what I stated in my OP
Women have to date their attractiveness match or less if they want a monogamous relationship. That is absolutely not true, I’m sick of seeing this here. I see countless attractive men with blobs.
Exactly! I feel like I’m banging my head against the wall posting here, but Reddit has censored or shut down every other TRP forum and now we have this cesspool it’s ridiculous.
I’m picky because I am independent enough where I am perfectly happy being single Exactly and you are leaving out the underlying reason why you are content with this whereas most men are not.
No, I am a 7+ man and I can say for a fact that we do not have a “ton” of options. We may have a better chance with some girls but we still have to work for it, vs a 7+ girl DOES have limitless options and does NOT have to work for it.
To start off with, men have nothing as valuable or pleasurable as pussy to offer an even exchange Wtf 🤣 actually yes dick is equally pleasurable to women as pussy is to men, men are just way hornier so women have this perception that they are godlike. Then you go and say women like sex just as much lol make up your mind.
Women’s rating system is irrelevant in this discussion, considering they have either distorted or bizarre concepts of what constitutes physical attractiveness. It is only subjective to a degree, there is no universe in which Post Malone or Robert Pattinson are physically beautiful. Ryan Gosling? Yes, but that is not the norm anymore. For every pretty boy or ruggedly handsome sex symbol like him or Hemsworth you have 10 androgynous skater dweebs and drug dealer looking scrubs getting more attenti…
An antiquated notion?? People will never stop getting married and having kids bro, wtf 🤣 What’s the alternative, we return to our hunter gatherer tribal state??
Sorry you can’t handle reality, I said nothing about “Chad” and I gave plenty of detail. The reason it’s generating so much discussion is because it’s true.
More than enough have equally disgusting fetishes whereas women don’t. Name 5 kinks or fetishes that are COMMON among normal women and come CLOSE to being anywhere as repulsive as what the average man is into.
You're conflating fetishes with horniness. They're not the same thing. Actually yes they go hand in hand. The ability to be sexually aroused by dirty socks is fucking disgusting and born of hyper sexuality. Name 5 kinks or fetishes that are COMMON among normal women and come CLOSE to being anywhere as repulsive as what the average man is into.
I’ll never understand how people can continue to pose this argument, all it does it validate my point. The mere fact that their horniness is dependent on “the right man” or that they require some Adonis to become turned on is the crux of what we are saying. If they were even a fraction as horny as men they would fuck guys in their league regularly.
I’ll never understand how people can continue to pose this argument, all it does it validate my point. The mere fact that their horniness is dependent on “the right man” or that they require some Adonis to become turned on is the crux of what we are saying. If they were even a fraction as horny as men they would fuck guys in their league regularly.
No evidence is needed, it’s easily observable in every facet of society. But yes, if this is not enough for you there are countless studies corroborating these facts, libido is a quantifiable thing and it is based on testosterone.
Women can get just as horny for the right man I’ll never understand how people can continue to pose this argument, all it does it validate my point. The mere fact that their horniness is dependent on “the right man” or that they require some Adonis to become turned on is the crux of what we are saying. If they were even a fraction as horny as men they would fuck guys in their league regularly.
Yes and you can learn to like someone, especially women. They generally develop feelings gradually. There is a certain degree of physical attraction that is not within our control, but the extent of women’s selectiveness has reached levels of absurdity.