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The problem is that being pickier is only beneficial for a man if every other man is so too. If enough men cheat on this by being less picky those men gains benefits, so I game theory this will never work because there will always be enough selfish men that isn't picky. For women though being less picky is often directly beneficial for themselves, regardless of how other women act.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/24 08:14 AM
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The problem is that being pickier is only beneficial for a man if every other man is so too. If enough men cheat on this by being less picky those men gains benefits, so I game theory this will never work because there will always be enough selfish men that isn't picky. For women though being less picky is often directly beneficial for themselves, regardless of how other women act.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/24 08:14 AM
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Nope
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/23 07:43 AM
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I have talked to many women about this. You're wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/23 09:21 AM
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And it's usually a faux pas to DM someone you don't at least know of through mutual friends. Not for a woman lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/23 09:03 AM
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Men aren’t being denied the right to do those things so what is your point? My point is evident isn't it? You said that men get what they want at the expense of women. Men wanting and getting women's rights is pretty evident that the exact opposite is true. What I’m referring to is the idea of forced monogamy, reproductive freedom, and sexual autonomy I know, but men in the western world don't want those things, which is why they went away.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/23 07:03 PM
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No, it's sexist to force men to pay child support is the argument.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/23 11:11 AM
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He's also saying: "I'm not suggesting that we do make it legal to force that thing" "That should be a crime too." He's clearly not advocating for rape.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/23 11:10 AM
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Yes, there's nothing wrong with making comparisons to highlight points. There is something wrong with arguing for being able to rape your wife, but that is clearly not what he's doing (he even expresses explicitly that he don't want that).
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/23 10:51 AM
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He isn't arguing that he should be allowed to rape his wife. He's saying that using the same logic that makes him not able to rape his wife (which he agrees with) he shouldn't be forced to pay child support. This is an argument against paying child support, not an argument for raping wives.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/23 10:46 AM
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Women getting the right to vote, education, high-paying jobs, are all things men wanted. Men wanted the western world we currently live in where arguably women have better rights than men do themselves. How did this come at the expense of women?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/23 10:42 AM
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Literally nobody is saying that.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/23 10:39 AM
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You’re all trying so hard to find a woman to date/marry right now I'm not really trying hard at all, I'm fine being single for long periods. I just haphazardly swipe on the apps sometimes, and when I match I ask the women to come over right away, most of the time it doesn't work, but it minimizes the amount of time I waste finding women. but will it even be worth it in the future if she won’t have frequent sex with you? Nope, sex is crucial, if sex stops then the relationship stops. Not right aw…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/23 10:21 AM
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No human is excited about being used for sexual gratification by someone repellent. A lot of people are lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/23 07:22 PM
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It's in the context of casual sex lol. You can't just take a comment and rip it out of its context and then apply it to a completely different context. That's asinine.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/23 07:54 PM
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Pregnancies as a result of casual sex is what we're talking about. You're so lost lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/23 05:04 PM
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Yes, many western governments have taken it too far and over-corrected in women's favor.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/23 08:35 AM
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If by typical you mean humanity since its dawn, it might be more typical than you think. You think cave-women only got fucked by one guy through their life?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/23 08:23 AM
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What the fuck does having a c-section to do with having casual sex? The context here is casual sex buddy. It's not meant to result in a pregnancy, that's the whole point. As a woman you could've just had a pregnancy test 2 weeks after the sex, and then an abortion pill shortly after. As a man though you run the risk of the woman being retarded and deciding to keep it, and now your life is forever fucked as the man. You have 0 power and 0 say in what happens, of course that is way scarier than fo…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/23 07:29 AM
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You have no idea what you’re talking about I do, I know exactly what I'm talking about, I'm very well-versed on the subject. Even the morning after pill can have some seriously unpleasant side effects Yeah wow, such terrible side effects, having a child you don't want and can't do anything about is so much better than those terrible terrible side effects... don’t find out they’re pregnant until past the point a pill will fix it (has to be less than 10 weeks). Take a fucking test after you've had…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/23 07:26 AM
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Anger and autism does not make it reasonable for a woman to lose a fight against a 5-year-old.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/23 05:30 PM
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We're talking about strength, anger and autism is irrelevant.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/23 05:17 PM
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Show me a study that it is healthy to never wash your bedding. I never said never. Don't strawman. You made an assertion without data. Don’t whine at me for doing the same as you. I think most people would agree that it's common sense that it wouldn't hurt your health to only wash pillowcases once per month or less. It's not a crazy claim. That it would hurt your health kinda is. I'm not being bitchy, I'm just very interested in your claim and would love to know more about it. But you have to re…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/23 04:52 PM
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Show me a study showing how it's not healthy to wash your pillowcases once a month or less.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/23 04:24 PM
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That's still not an answer to the question...
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/23 03:53 PM
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That was not the question. The question is why you're expecting a rebuttal to your dissent, when your dissent isn't a rebuttal either.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/23 02:49 PM
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Sure, but why are you expecting a rebuttal to your insults? What could one possibly rebut to what you wrote?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/23 02:37 PM
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He clearly didn't. he’s literally jibbing the numbers on rumble streams What does jibbing mean? You mean faking the numbers? Got any proof of that? Still scamming people. Irrelevant to what we're talking about.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/23 12:58 PM
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That's a misleading perspective and not a fair comparison. The question is whether or not the dude dropped off a cliff, and he was never on Sunday Night Football every week, or released songs with billions of views. He is currently one of the most popular live streamers in the world, that's hardly dropping off a cliff for an influencer, quite the opposite. I mean I hate the guy, I'd love for him to drop off a cliff, but that is just simply not true, facts are important you know.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/23 12:38 PM
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If you have several layers of clutter maybe. But if it's all just there all you need to do is open your eyes to find the thing you want, no digging needed.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/23 12:01 PM
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If the father is actually unknown, sure. But I would say 99% of casual sex the woman would be able to find the man again, you usually exchange socials, phone numbers, or you go to his place so you know his address. Women always have the option to just take a pill and the pregnancy is gone, so it very very little discourages women (or at least it should).
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/23 11:57 AM
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Just to put a million live-stream views into perspective; When Drake played Fortnite on Twitch (a much bigger platform) the stream got 628K viewers, and when AOC played Among Us on Twitch the stream got 439k viewers. So yeah, I would say 1 mil on Rumble is pretty big lol...
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/23 11:12 AM
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I personally feel I've made a lot of dating mistakes as a woman, that have not worked in my favour. Expressing my feelings first, initiating How have initiating and expressing your feelings first been mistakes for you? Women doing this generally do very well in dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/23 11:08 AM
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Haha wtf if you lose to a 5-yo you're just beyond weak. This is pre-puberty, the benefits of being a man hasn't kicked in yet (and aren't even girls stronger pre-puberty?).
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/23 11:05 AM
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It would be in a woman's best interest to prioritize non-violent, non-criminal, kind men who respect them and who is willing to contribute half of the work required in the relationship (cleaning, cooking, etc.). After that financial stability is important (but making $100k+ is excessive and past the point of financial stability and as such shouldn't be valued that highly). This is if women could disregard their biological attraction, which they of course can't. But trying to blend these two in s…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/23 11:02 AM
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you have almost a 95+% chance of orgasm Orgasm isn't the end-all-be-all of sex, and women could get 95+% too if they were just willing to tell men what to do to get here there, and insist on it happening. 0% of getting pregnant I would say pregnancies are scarier for men. If a women accidentally gets pregnant she takes a pill and it's gone. If a man accidentally gets a woman pregnant there's a decent risk that she decides to keep it and then your life is basically fucked as a man and there's abs…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/23 10:54 AM
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Why would you expect something other than insults as a response your insults? Come with a rebuttal of your own before you expect a rebuttal lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/23 10:50 AM
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This is why guys complaining about women’s high standards by blaming women is dumb. The only women being complained about are the ones that have so high standards that they can't find anyone, and then goes on to complain about how shit all men are because there's not enough of them that live up to her insane standards for her to get one.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/23 10:48 AM
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Organised living spaces are not merely an aesthetic choice. If you don't keep surfaces clean, clear and ready for use your effectiveness is reduced. Nope, if you have all your shit that you use on a surface scattered around that surface your effectiveness is increased because you don't need to go looking for the things you need to use at that surface, it's already there. If you don't keep your pillowcase clean your skin gets hurt. Depends to what degree, you might get some extra acne if you only…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/23 10:43 AM
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I did that for a while but it just resulted in pretty much resulted in me not ever responding. I've actually eliminated the possibility of dry responses now. I generally just ask them to come meet me in the first message. It has a pretty low success-rate, but it's better than the alternative which is wasting a bunch of my time.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/23 01:25 PM
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Most of the time it feels like a job interview from the interviewer's point-of-view where the applicant isn't even very interested in the job... OLD really sucks.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/23 12:15 PM
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You mainly get through the stack by NOT liking profiles. If you use it correctly yes, but like I said most people definitely don't. If that was any relevant number of men I was responding to "On Hinge, you don't have men who swipe right on everybody.". They absolutely do swipe right on everybody, and that is why Hinge data is poop for figuring out people's preferences.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/23 10:12 AM
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I do depending on how they cry about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/23 09:54 AM
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It is pretty common, and yeah it doesn't happen automatically. But a lot of men are late bloomers and only start taking care of themselves (in a way that makes them more attractive) in their late 20's or early 30's, which is why so many go through that transformation.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/23 09:32 AM
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No, but when my 3-year-old is literally crying over how she will die if she finishes her peas I will tell her to stop being silly instead of playing into her subjective experience of actual hell. Similarly I will tell women to stop being silly when they're crying over dating being actual hell. Sometimes we humans make things a bigger and worse thing than they are, and when we do we need to be reality-checked by someone.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/23 07:48 AM
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When ability to send out likes is reduced, men and women both focus on the top profiles, regardless of if they match with them or not. Yes, but interpreting the lack of likes to the bottom 50% as people's preferences is incorrect, because they never even get to see those bottom 50%, because due to their limited amount of likes they run out of likes before getting through the stack. On Hinge, you don't have men who swipe right on everybody. That's why you get better data. Lol they absolutely do, …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/23 07:41 AM
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No lol, if I had any more self respect it would be kind of dangerous.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/23 06:37 AM
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Sure, most men don't go from the worst side of the scale to the best side of the scale. But many men go from generally unattractive to generally attractive in their late 20's or early 30's. How many? Probably not "most", so I agree with you. But it's also not uncommon. The comment I responded to said it doesn't happen at all, which is very incorrect.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/23 10:11 PM
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I agree... I still don't understand the relevance of this to what I said though...
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/23 09:43 PM
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Yes. 70 years ago. An interesting factoid indeed... It's relevance to the conversation is somewhat lacking though.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/23 09:15 PM
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I haven't rolled my eyes this hard in a while. Cool story. Bottom line is, guys are socially r-worded Nope. terrified of rejection. Of course, rejection feels terrible, that is natural. Additionally in today's climate there's a risk that rejection comes with consequences for a guy too, so of course men are more afraid of rejection than ever.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/23 09:14 PM
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Hinge is terrible for statistics like this because of the very limited amount of swipes you get. Few men have the intelligence to realize that they should left-swipe people who are out of their league to maximize their chance of success. Bottom 50% of women only getting 7.9% of likes only really means that only 7.9% of men live in an area with few enough women that with their very limited swipes her day they're able to swipe through all people.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/23 09:12 PM
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And the servers serving the wrong type of champagne at your chic get-together is actual hell for rich people. I laugh at both knowing the privileged position they're in and how little they know of actual hell.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/23 09:08 PM
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Guys want a hot GF with no effort SO bad. No, guys just wants to meet women who has given a signal that they're interested in him so that they know it's safe to approach her. That is kinda hard to get IRL, but OLD does it very well, if a woman has swiped right on you she's interested and you're free to shoot your shot.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/23 09:04 PM
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Literally yes lol. Getting no responses is just a huge waste of time, but if you're into sex then that can at least be useful. Besides, women get plenty of non-sex solicitations also.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/23 08:57 PM
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Unattractive guys don't metamorphosis into hot guys when they turn 30. They actually often do, money, education, game, social skills, style, etc, are all things that are part of what makes a man attractive to a woman, and are often things men pick up in their late 20's or early 30's.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/23 08:52 PM
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It’s not ignorance to shoot for the stars. It is if you don't realize you're shooting for the stars and think you're just going for your equal.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/23 08:42 PM
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?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/23 04:44 PM
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Male actors get harassed just as much probably, that just comes with the job.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/23 10:49 AM
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https://webassets-prod.ultimateperformance.com/uploads/2023/10/06171953/Female-body-fat-percentage-comparison-pictures.jpg The 40% and 45% 0 sexual attraction. The 30% and 35% there's some sexual attraction, if I was really horny and had no other options I could do that. 25% and below is all good.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/23 08:04 AM
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I did, so I guess that somebody is you?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/23 07:05 AM
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Of course we do, why wouldn't we lol?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/23 07:04 AM
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Are you seriously trying to argue that killing yourself is a better option than lowering your standards for a partner?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/23 10:35 PM
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If you're unable to find a partner and you're literally about to kill yourself because you can't find a partner, then yeah lowering your standards is definitely the better option.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/23 10:10 PM
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I haven't seen anyone fail 1000 times at anything and neither have you . I definitely have, but even then they usually succeed after trying even more. If you're dedicated enough to try 1000 times you're likely dedicated enough to try until you succeed. Watching people play Getting Over It with Bennett Foddy is a good example just off the top of my head where I've seen people fail and fall to the start thousands of times before succeeding. There is not "someone out there for everyone." That is an…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/23 09:48 PM
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I haven't ever seen a man be unsuccessful after a thousand approaches. There is always someone interested in you out there, the hard part is finding them, but with enough effort I believe any man can do it.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/23 08:59 PM
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I don't see how that is applicable to what we're talking about here. Getting into a bar fight with a man doesn't mean you think men in general are hostiles or your opponents in life.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/23 08:56 PM
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I'm definitely a Chad. And you can also pick up a non-fat chick on a slow Tuesday, why would I choose the fat one instead?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/23 08:31 PM
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I agree it fucking sucks, but being uncomfortable as you approach women is surely better than ending it? I'm a man too, and I'm happy that I'm fairly comfortable single because I fucking hate approaching women and I just don't feel it's worth it. But if I hated being single so much that I was thinking about ending my life I feel like my hatred of approaching women would be a small issue relatively.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/23 08:28 PM
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Wow, alright. Sorry buddy. Not intending to make you feel any worse but I've never heard of anyone who hasn't succeeded by the time they get to over a thousand approaches. Pretty much nobody has a 0% chance, so with enough approaches success is inevitable. Lol he blocked me so I'll respond in edit: No all women don't only want Chads now. A lot of them do, but there's still those out there who want someone they can actually get. Get off dating apps because the women on there will only want chads,…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/23 08:21 PM
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Have you approached thousands of women too with fairly low standards of who you approach? That is the crucial part, the fit and dress and job is only the basics.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/23 08:12 PM
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You can compete with people on your team. Men don't see other men as hostiles or their opponents, like women do.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/23 08:07 PM
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No?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/23 08:04 PM
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Hmm. I can see how working on yourself, getting well-dressed and fit, and then approaching hundreds or even thousands of women, is way too much work to be worth the effort for a lot of guys, and as such they just skip that and stay alone. But if that loneliness is so bad that it's driving them to suicide, is it not worth going through all the effort to find someone? Because I think pretty much any man can succeed if they put in some work on themselves, set their standards fairly low, and approac…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/23 08:00 PM
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I said "most men", I know some men like fat women. But those some men thinking differently than the rest of us means absolutely nothing to us, fat women are still not part of our dating pool, just like other men aren't. Basically every man between the ages of 20 and maybe 40 are competing hard for those “lean” or “thin” women between ages 20 and 30. Good luck i guess but odds are not in your favor. Yep, I agree, but it is what it is. No matter how much I want to force myself to like a fat woman …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/23 07:40 PM
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Is it that you can't find a partner that makes you want to be gone, or is it something else?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/23 07:33 PM
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A lot of men are still kissless by 26, and the vast majority of them don't stay that way for the next 10 years. If you have a horribly misconfigured face from like fire or acid, or you have a third leg sprouting out of your back or something, then I can kinda see where you're coming from and why it feels hopeless. But if you don't you absolutely can find a partner. If you work on yourself to be a good version of you (dress decently, be somewhat fit) and you approach 1000 women over the next year…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/23 07:32 PM
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I mean this is just highlighting the failure of BMI as a measurement. If we define obese as carrying a very unhealthy amount of fat then countries like South Korea and Japan are probably still way better off than for example USA, and if we look at something like coronary heart disease death rates, something often caused by obesity, we can see the data support that (I know correlation isn't causation but I don't think we're going to get something better than this). The point still stands, countri…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/23 07:23 PM
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i think you're dead wrong. Women love men who are filtering, they want us to filter everyone else in the world out and for them to be the only one that we're interested in.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/23 07:10 PM
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Because most of the thick women everyone likes are considered overweight. I think only a minority of men like thick women tbh.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/23 07:09 PM
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I think most men can't get hard with a fat woman. It's just physically a non-negotiable. As a hetero guy excluding fat women from the dating pool is like excluding men, they're just not viable partners, physically. I'm not very picky, I don't mind scars, an ugly face, a flat butt, but I just can't do fat women, even if I push myself to do it.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/23 07:08 PM
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Given that men here think being overweight is the most offensive thing a woman can be I don't think men think it's offensive, many of us just literally can't get hard with a fat woman because it's so unattractive, so fat women are just sort of not part of the dating pool. So they, like men for example, are just simply not part of the category of viable partners for a hetero guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/23 07:05 PM
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Nah, Chads have better options than fat women. I'm generally not very picky with who I fuck, but I literally can't get hard for a fat woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/23 07:02 PM
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I’m just saying they’re not really “Red Pill Tactics” if they were tactics that existed before TRP did. TRP is just a collection of old tactics. They aren't exclusively TRP, they still are what they were before TRP, but they're now also TRP.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/23 06:57 PM
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For thousands of generations only men with a strong need for women passed their genes on, while women who were pretty and good mothers had the best chance to pass their genes on. Wanting a man hasn't really been a necessary component for a woman to pass her genes on through most of history (because men would find her and put a baby in her regardless of her feelings), while wanting a woman has been one of the most important components for a man to pass his genes on. I would honestly love to move …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/23 06:48 PM
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Honestly, I've been surprised with how terribly bad-faith women are at debating here. I have a lot of experience debating people, but I'm guessing it's been almost exclusively men I've debated. From my experience debating some women on here they just have their set view of the world, and are completely closed off to changing their mind. More-so, they will strawman you, shift the goalposts, and scream misogyny all the time instead of actually trying to engage with the arguments made. And addition…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/23 06:30 PM
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This is just false. If anything, it's more men who have this binary thinking. Absolutely not, we care about women's issues and support solving them. Same can't be said about women for men. Redpillers spend all their time in their "debates" calling women whores, cum buckets, narcissistic liars, etc., and only give advice how to deceive women for casual sex while discouraging emotional connections. Incorrect. MGTOW have the same ideology as Redpillers, only that they choose to not date at all. Inc…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/23 04:42 PM
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The majority of women in Western countries has nothing against men, I would say the majority is more pro-men than men themselves. I didn't say they were anti-men. Just that they see the world as women being on their team, and men not being on their team. redpillers, MGTOW and MRA are the most disgusting misogynists coming from the West, the fact that you think they'e not misogynistic at all shows how broken your worldview is. Redpillers are men who just take a rational approach to the dating mar…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/23 04:26 PM
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If a woman wants a relationship bad enough, and their expectations are barring this, then she will eventually compromise That's the problem though, she won't. Instead she becomes miserable. she will be happier aligning herself with her values. That's the problem, she isn't aligning herself with her values. She clearly wants to be in a relationship, but her fucked up requirements prevents her for finding one and as such happiness. Nobody should “settle”. It isn't settling if you just modify your …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/23 07:38 AM
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There is no "we", not all men are the same. Indeed, but I'm speaking about the majority in western countries, not about some cringe islamists or misogynists (which redpillers, MGTOWs or MRAs are generally not btw, and the fact that you think they are just shows how broken your worldview is).
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/23 07:32 AM
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I mean some adults try to pretend like their feelings don't exist, but that is retarded.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/23 09:41 PM
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Adults don't act like the don't feel lol. Stop faking.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/23 09:37 PM
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Of course, wtf else are you supposed to act like lol? Have you been living your whole life as a fake acting like you're not feeling?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/23 09:27 PM
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What? I have a GF that is very happy with me.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/23 07:50 PM
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The same thing can be said for men. Not really, few men are only interested in women they can't get.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/23 07:24 PM
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Wanting people out of your league is fine. ONLY wanting people out of your league is problematic.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/23 05:52 PM
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Congratulations, you don't have the toxic mindset that I'm talking about then. You're not the women I'm talking about. Just because you don't have that mindset doesn't mean other women don't. You don't need reversing, they do.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/23 04:46 PM
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You said "when men stop being lonely due to AI gf's" That is the assumption that this whole comment-section is based on. Whether that will actually happen or not none of us know, but we're discussing the situation if that does indeed happen. I'm not making the claim that it will do that, I'm just going along with the discussion about what will happen if it does.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/23 04:16 PM
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Did you reply to the wrong comment? I never said most people are single, or that most women are miserable. The question was about the toxic dating culture, and some women trying to only date people in leagues above them is one aspect of it as I pointed out. I'm just saying that those women are probably better off getting off social media and maybe trying therapy to reverse that. What you write as a response here doesn't apply to anything I said.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/23 03:58 PM
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Did you reply to the wrong comment? Did you mean to reply to OP? None what you said is applicable to my comment.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/23 03:53 PM
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I'm implying that it's in a woman's best interests to figure out why she's only interested in men she can't get, and to figure out how to reverse that. I suspect it's a lot with how we raise girls today, and then social media usage from a young age. I think stopping social media usage and maybe going to a therapist to talk about it can help women reverse this warped interest. But hey, I'm no psychologist, all I can say is that a lot of women (and as a consequence men) are miserable because they …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/23 03:40 PM
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Many women don't have a chance to win with the guys they're trying to win, which is what I'm talking about.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/23 03:19 PM
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If you win some then you do in-fact have have a chance of getting them, so that doesn't apply to what I said.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/23 03:13 PM
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You asked "why do dudes act", I'm responding that they "act" like that because that's how they feel. Just because you're a dude who don't feel like normal dudes do don't mean shit. Don't ask why if you don't wanna hear the answer.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/23 02:19 PM
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Wtf? How lost in the conversation right now are you? We're talking about how women don't like hearing about men's struggle because those struggles "frequently" are that women are not kept in vegetative states for them to have sex with. Does it ever happen that men rape women in a coma? Sure. Do men "frequently" complain about not being able to do so? Fucking hell no, and anyone who thinks that is a misandrist living in some made up world in their mind.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/23 12:50 PM
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Jerking off is like getting a drop of water when you're thirsty. Sure it's better than nothing, but it doesn't do much to take away the need for sex and intimacy. If I wasn't able to get any sex and intimacy over a long period of time I would be miserable, and taking away that need would probably make me feel better.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/23 08:46 AM
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Sex is really good at forging a bond and creating feelings where there are none. As a guy several times casual sex with a girl I didn't really care about made me develop feelings for her and I ended up dating her a bit.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/23 08:42 AM
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Look at Sweden where the feminist government is up in arms over the uptick of Swedish men going outside the country to find a wife. As a Swede: What?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/23 08:38 AM
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As a Swede: What the fuck are you talking about? We're not up in arms over young south-east Asian women immigrating here. And we definitely no longer love the MENA-immigration, thankfully we as a whole has finally realized the damage it is causing our country.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/23 08:38 AM
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Both can be true, misery loves company. The question is; when men stop being miserable from being lonely due to AI GFs, will women, who are still miserable because they can't get the men they desire, be ok with that?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/23 08:30 AM
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Is it toxic to not be interested in every man who shows interest in you? Is it toxic to reject people you aren't interested in? It's toxic to have your interests warped in a way where you're only interested in a few guys who you have no chance of getting. Just the same as porn warps men's minds in toxic ways.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/23 08:25 AM
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It happens frequently that you hear men IRL complain about things like women not being kept in vegetative states for them to have sex with? Where the fuck do you live and who the fuck are you talking to? Are you in Afghanistan talking to Taliban men? In my 30+ years of life, talking to thousands of my male friends, I have never ever heard anyone complain about something like that. And trust me when I say us men are much more forthcoming about things like this to fellow men than to women. Gtfo wi…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/23 08:17 AM
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https://nationalwomenshistoryalliance.org/resources/womens-rights-movement/suffragents-men-who-worked-for-womens-suffrage/ So many women have this misguided "us vs them" mindset, women vs men. Us men don't think like that at all. To us we're all on the same side. We'll happily help women in their issues.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/23 02:25 PM
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Lol wtf is this bullshit.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/23 10:06 PM
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But if you're a king you're not treating the queen "like a queen", you're treating her like a normal person.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/23 10:03 PM
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We were talking about compliments, if we're adding victims of violent crime then men still have it worse. Sure we don't get a dick put inside us, we get a knife instead which is so much worse. And it starts from an early age too by being beat up on the school playground.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/23 08:18 PM
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I don't wanna be treated like a king, I don't want people kneeling to me and obeying every order. I wanna be treated as an equal citizen.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/23 08:01 PM
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A queen is someone you kneel to, someone who you obey every given from. It's not someone you "treat well" lol, you treat normal humans that are your equal well.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/23 07:40 PM
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Never going to happen. I donno, maybe I'm a hopeless optimist, but I feel like feminism will die in the next decade as it becomes more and more ridiculous, and then we can revert to some kind of proper egalitarianism instead where women can maybe start caring about men too. More so what man will want to help feminism when all feminism is about is being against men? There still are plenty of men supporting feminism today, but I think we've reached peak feminism and that more and more men are waki…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/23 04:07 PM
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I never said we were oppressed, certainly not to the degree women were before, or still are in many countries, you're making a huge strawman here by comparing the two. But in western society despite us both (probably, I don't know how old you are) having grown up in this post-feminist equal world, women still largely hold on to this idea of two "teams" and only advocate for their team, and often actively advocate against the other team. And like I said that shit is so fucking cringe, just grow u…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/23 12:40 PM
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Because any time we try to do something for men, women not only don't help us, but they actively kick us down screaming about the patriarchy. It's just simply not safe socially to be advocating for men's issues, too often are you seen as a bigot anti-feminist if you do.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/23 12:26 PM
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My point is that men go out with women for different reasons and have different standards for them, and that over time one reason can morph into the other.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/23 10:11 AM
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Nah I would say most men grade women on a bell curve. At the far-left we have women who are obese and/or not nice. Then we have a slope of women we likely won't approach or go after ourselves, but if the woman takes the initiative we might give it a shot, but we're probably not looking for more than sex with these women, then further up the slope we have women that we will approach and go after for mostly sex, and then at the top of the curve we have women we feel we're equally matched with whic…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/23 09:32 AM
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If you are a legit top 10% woman then yeah dating down is probably not a good idea. I can absolutely see how men below you would feel insecure about you. My tip was aimed at the other 90% of women. For the top10% women I would probably still recommend left-swiping 500 times, and then just try to look for a diamond in the rough, there's still plenty of attractive men further down the stack on dating apps that just don't have that great pictures etc. that doesn't make them get the hyper-success th…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/23 08:54 AM
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I'm not saying less attractive men will treat women better. However the more attractive ones are way less likely to be looking to settle down in a committed relationship than the less attractive men are. A lot of men who are getting 10 matches per day will want to stay on the ride for a while and keep fucking a different woman every day before he settles down. The less attractive men who are getting 1 match per month aren't really thinking about fucking a different women every day, and would be …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/23 08:29 AM
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Not really. Us men just think it's cringe to split society up in two groups based on gender that each advocates for themselves. Men where in support of women through suffrage, and it was in large part thanks to men women got the right to vote. We don't see the world as "us and them" when it comes to women. We see women's issues and help women, we just want women to see our issues and help us back.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/23 08:23 AM
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How often do men force themselves to date or have sex with nice women they aren’t attracted to? It must be common, else men wouldn’t be so keen to chastise women for choosing men they are attracted to vs the opposite. Most men are attracted to most women though. The reason women get chastised is because their requirements for what they consider attractive are sky-high, but, what you find attractive isn't something set in your blood. Get off social media, maybe go to therapy too, and you can prob…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/23 08:12 AM
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The dating apps are fantastic for women. You just gotta swipe left on the first 500 men you see, that way you filter away all the chads who are just looking to pump and dump and are getting tons of matches (the more people swiping right on you the higher up in the stack you get placed), and you'll get down the stack to normal guys where you can probably find some good guys who want the same thing as you.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/23 08:08 AM
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I did not say that at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/23 07:31 AM
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I didn't.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/23 07:31 AM
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Or you're just not very interested.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/23 01:08 PM
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Of course, any man has the option to just pay a hooker. And even disregarding that, almost any man can get laid if he just spends enough time and effort on it. The men who are virgins by 30 are the ones that don't think it's that important and/or have a harder time than other men to get laid, often due to being shy, not liking approaching women, being very ugly or short, or there being something very wrong with them. I'm not saying there aren't 30yo virgins who have something very wrong with the…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/23 01:01 PM
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Statistically untrue. VERY few men reach 30 as virgins. Nope, statistically true. I think some 5% of men reach 30 as virgins. That's millions of 30+ year-old virgin men in America. If they're so shy and they can't approach women to the level where they're still a virgin at 30, something IS very wrong with them. I agree, if they CAN'T. Most of them could though, but they don't like doing it, so they don't do it. And there's nothing wrong with a man who doesn't like approaching women and as such d…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/23 12:51 PM
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Hitting on cashiers is a no-go though. A woman asking a man of higher class out would not seem desperate, and it would be extremely likely to end well, as all types of women asking men out generally do.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/23 09:34 AM
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Not going out of your way to try to date someone is not the same as avoiding them. I'm not avoiding dating Brazilian women, but I don't live in Brazil so I don't date Brazilian women generally. Doesn't mean I'm avoiding them. If that cute McDonalds cashier takes the initiative and asks the successful guy for a date he will often say yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/23 09:23 AM
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It's not working, Bumble is no different from any other dating app. Women just write "Hi", and then everything proceeds just like on other dating apps with men having to take the initiative.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/23 09:06 AM
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Biology. They've tested on newborn babies and seen that males have a higher interest in things, and cogs and stuff like that, while females have a higher interest in faces. In poor countries you'll see women go into STEM at a higher degree, because there they need to to earn decent money, but in rich egalitarian countries women go into STEM to a lower degree, because that simply are their preferences.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/23 09:03 AM
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Very true, the poorest American are like Average Europeans Depends on what sense you're counting, number of dollars in bank account? Maybe. But financial security? Absolutely not, the poorest Europeans are like the average Americans there. So many average Americans get destroyed financially by having a child, or getting fired, or getting a health issue. Even the poorest Europeans have access to healthcare, daycare, and unemployment benefits.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/23 08:59 AM
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The problem isn't getting someone, the problem is getting someone you're satisfied with. I mean it's not only that. The amount of work you have to put in to find that granny who is willing to have sex with you is nothing to disregard. And the damage you'll cause to your social standing as you continuously approach anyone with a vagina over and over again. While it is technically possible for that unattractive socially awkward 20yo guy to get sex, it isn't really practically possible.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/23 08:51 AM
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Lots of men reach 30 as virgins, and usually it's because they're shy and don't like approaching women, not because there's something wrong with them.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/23 08:43 AM
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Lots of men reach 30 as virgins, and usually it's because they're shy and don't like approaching women, not because there's something wrong with them.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/23 08:43 AM
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Like I said if you can actually get the steak eventually, then great. But if not, and hotdogs make you puke, then you need therapy.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/23 07:34 AM
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I'm interested in a forever long term relationship and having kids. Specially marriage is not something I'm interested in due to the messy financial situation if we were to separate in the future. So like in everything except for the financial sense I am interested in marriage.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/23 02:26 AM
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Just fists or pushing can be deadly. Just because my "guns" are bigger naturally doesn't mean I will pull my punches if I'm at risk of bodily harm. If someone came at with a hand-gun and I had a full-auto M4, I wouldn't play fair and just use it on semi and reload every 10 shots to match the hand-gun shooting at me so that it's a fair fight. Likewise I won't pull my punches to make a fight with fists fair either when the opponent is weaker. But sure, if a person isn't actually trying to hurt me,…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/23 07:35 PM
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I disagree with a lot of the things men here say is attractive in women. Virginity or low body counts, stay at home or at least not having a career. That women in relationships shouldn't dress sexy. Etc etc. As a man I generally wan the exact opposite of these men, and I feel like most, or at least a lot of men would agree with me.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/23 07:31 PM
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They just price themselves out of a market they did not have a chance in the first place. This is especially true for men You think exclusively going for people out of your league is something especially men does? I think it's fairly established that it's the opposite.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/23 07:29 PM
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If you eventually end up getting the steak, then great! If you don't though it's kinda stupid to go through life being hungry all the time when you could have hotdogs. Unless you're not hungry at all, if you aren't then by all means stay fasting all life.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/23 07:27 PM
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That is completely fair. Saying "and there aren’t any arguments that are going to dissuade me for this view" however isn't, that is utterly asinine and close-minded.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/23 05:37 PM
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To be clear, I wouldn't retire on the money you see as my earnings and I see as partially his earnings. How is money that you earn partly his earnings? You would earn that money with or without him correct? He is making his own earnings through a job of his own right? I would be doing something negative to him because instead of acting like a team, like a couple, where the agreement is to pursue our goals jointly, I am choosing my leisure over helping him and sitting around thanks to his work. W…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/23 04:07 PM
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You do realize you're allowed to write the word "porn" right? The police won't show up and bust down your door.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/23 03:57 PM
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Well I'm definitely never getting married, but yeah at some point I probably want some kids. Me personally though I already retired at the age of 26 and I'm now in my early 30s. And yeah I don't live in US, cost of living here is comparable, but raising a kid is probably way cheaper thanks to our social security net and welfare. And yeah women hating frugality is something I've experienced as well. I'm hoping I'll find a woman who isn't so shallow and materialistic, and who can focus on the impo…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/23 03:49 PM
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It isn't.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/23 03:44 PM
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Sure, you can stay an ignorant close-minded person if you want to. It's entirely possible to go through life like that. I wouldn't recommend it though.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/23 02:51 PM
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Yeah
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/23 02:36 PM
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Yeah, and it seems like you felt like him retiring would be unfair because he would be "doing" something negative to you by doing that. To which I asked what exactly he would be doing to do you that's negative, if anything it would be a positive thing for you. To which you said you wouldn't retire partially on money he earned. To which I answered that's irrelevant to what we're talking about because the person retiring wouldn't be doing so partially on their partners earnings, they would be doin…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/23 02:31 PM
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because it shows you who people really think are attractive. I hear over and over that guys think average women are attractive and that guys know their league. These stats imply otherwise. It doesn't. Just because a guy think another woman is more attractive doesn't mean that he doesn't also think the first woman is attractive. Men will try to shoot out of their league, but they also shoot inside of their league at the same time, and most men probably shoot below their league most of the time to…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/23 02:17 PM
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How? By simply doing it. What would prevent me from doing so?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/23 01:35 PM
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What do you mean? I would work for like let's say 15 years, put away a bunch into savings, and then stop working, taking out of savings enough to match what I was living on before, meaning I have a steady amount of money to live on through my whole life. I don't see how kids play into this?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/23 01:19 PM
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No, cleaning and organizing, not all house chores.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/23 01:08 PM
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I agree, I wouldn't do it partially on money they earned either, but that's not what we're talking about.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/23 12:40 PM
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"Do" what to someone you love? How is retiring "doing" something to someone you love? That he's able to take care of things at home, handle appointments during the day while you work, pick up the kids from school early or whatever should be a benefit for you, not a detriment right? As long as he's able to keep up with his half of the cost of the household of course.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/23 12:34 PM
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The dating market tells you what you are worth. If a 5 has never been interested in you, chances are you're not a 5. I agree that the dating market tells you what you are worth, but only if you've had decent exposure to it, and most actors on it are rational. For example a man who is on Tinder and can't get any interest at all doesn't mean he's a 1, he might even be a 5. It's just that he gets a flawed exposure to the dating market through Tinder, and that many women on Tinder act irrationally b…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/23 12:22 PM
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Really what?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/23 12:16 PM
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and there aren’t any arguments that are going to dissuade me for this view. This should be an alarm-bell for you. If you ever find yourself holding a belief where you can't even think of a hypothetical argument that would change your belief then you're a close-minded fundamentalist, and you should probably work on opening your mind.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/23 12:10 PM
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Most men probably don't want sex every day. And most women in relationships wouldn't give it to them anyway. I think once per week is close to the average, and that is pretty cheap.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/23 12:07 PM
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So why is this man prioritising his own material purchases over me? What if the man just wants to save a lot of money to be able to retire early?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/23 12:05 PM
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Every extra person in a house means the house will require more cleaning. Yes, in terms of absolute minutes of cleaning it will go up, but what I'm talking about is cleaning per capita. If I can keep a clean and organized home with 15 minutes of cleaning per week, then if someone else moves in that isn't a slob then if they also do 15 minutes of cleaning per week we should be fine. In-fact, it will probably be less cleaning per capita, because if I cook dinner for 2 instead of 1 it's still basic…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/23 11:50 AM
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Considering half of marriages end in divorce it would be both. Future to-be-divorced marriages would suffer from this even before the divorce right?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/23 09:40 AM
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Ah I was kinda missing the context. I wouldn't argue that you should be feminine in that way. Society definitely doesn't tell you to be feminine in that way anymore, and the few men who do you should ignore. Why should you be "fit You should be fit because you benefit from being fit, and because it will make it easier for you to find a partner you like or keep your partner pleased. Same as for men. agreeable and feminine To be honest, an agreeable woman is pretty nice though. You're often emotio…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/23 09:38 AM
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Whether women believe in it or not is irrelevant, it still clearly exists and drives women's taste in men.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/23 09:26 AM
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Say nurse vs surgeon. Or teacher vs any trade. There's no nefarious force here keeping women's salaries down. It's just market economy, supply and demand. There's enough people wanting to be nurses for the current salaries to work. If surgeons were paid the same as nurses though there wouldn't be enough surgeons. People in support roles don't get into history books. Rightfully so. Anyone can support someone, it's not something unique. However the person coming up with a scientific breakthrough d…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/23 09:12 AM
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Do you realize what the going rate for sex on the market is? Hint: It's not as valuable as you think it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/23 08:58 AM
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Most women from my experience Nope, stats Well the 2 women I've dated lol...
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/23 08:53 AM
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Hinge is terrible for these types of statistics because you only get like 6 right-swipes per day and way too few people of both genders realize that they should save those for people who are actually attainable for them. Additionally everyone can see everyone who likes you, so I would imagine the top50% of women barely do any swiping at all, and just picks someone who likes them already and matches with them.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/23 08:51 AM
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If you have a kid, absolutely. But otherwise, not really unless she is a slob that causes more cleaning to be needed. But from my experience the extra cleaning women generally do is completely unnecessary. I will for example clean my bathroom mirror once every 6 months. But to a woman some small water residue on a bathroom mirror is unacceptable, so she will clean it twice per month, and then complain about her doing most of the cleaning in the house. It's useless wasted time.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/23 08:44 AM
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Lol you are so misrepresenting that discussion, the guy you were talking to was saying that a father being present is better than nothing at all for the child, and you said that if the father isn't parenting he should fuck off because the child is better off without a father. The idea that his presence is "enough" was a strawman you were making.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/23 08:30 AM
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Invisible labour tends to be things like cleaning and keeping organization in the home As a man living alone I spend maybe 15 minutes per week doing this, and my home is pristine and well organized. I agree with the previous commenter that the invisible labor women often complain about doing is self-inflicted unnecessary labor. It's thankless because it's useless.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/23 08:22 AM
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As a mid 30's man I have lots of male friends in the age range 18-21. Do I think they're a bit immature? Sure, but they're also fun to hang with. Did you think this would be some sort of gotcha?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/23 08:19 AM
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I've had some interactions where women have seemed really bothered and annoyed by having to interact with me. And honestly I just don't like making people feel bad, so I tend to not interact with women. And I'm also scared of false accusations. In today's post-metoo society allegations and social media campaigns can ruin a man's life, nobody cares about innocent until proven guilty anymore. So I tend to really make sure I don't bother or annoy any women, as long as I'm not on the bad side of any…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/23 08:14 AM
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Redpill philosophy is full of fear: fear of being screwed by women, fear of being taken advantage of, fear of heartbreak. I disagree that fear is the motivator. Wanting to rationally and optimally progress through life doesn't make you fear not doing so. but statistics tell us clearly; married men are happier than unmarried men. But that could be to a myriad of factors. Maybe happier men marry more often, maybe they're including single men in the "unmarried" category, maybe men are happy when th…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/23 04:39 PM
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As a hetero man, probably a homo man. It would be so much easier finding a partner, and I think it would be easier getting along with that partner long term too. Dealing with women is kinda exhausting, so not having to do that would be such a chill life I think. But if we also had a way to make women's bodies as good as men's (same strength, height, no menstruation, fertile until way later in life, etc.), I would 100% pick a heterosexual woman. That just seems like life on easy-mode. Same as a h…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/23 04:12 PM
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Oh you mean the takes that OP highlights as incorrect are contrary to Red Pill, and not the takes that OP makes?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/23 03:58 PM
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Many redpill men You're talking about Blackpill men, not Redpill men.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/23 03:52 PM
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and are contrary to red pill beliefs. Definitely not, this is textbook Red Pill beliefs that OP has.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/23 03:50 PM
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WFe5MGaQrGo
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/23 09:19 AM
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It's PurpePillDebate lol, the whole point of this sub is to have a bunch of people with vastly different opinions debating modern dating. Why wouldn't you be here just because most people of your gender here don't agree with you? This isn't a team game, it's a battle royale.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/23 08:56 AM
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99% of women have blank bios and interests. We absolutely care about who she is, but there's no way to find out without first matching with her and then asking her.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/23 09:34 AM
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The only thing “skewing” the market is women are genuinely not attracted to many men. All the modern dating market is doing is revealing what’s always been. I really don't think this is true. Women nowadays grow up with an inflated self-worth, being constantly told they're a beautiful princess and that they deserve the world and to never settle, and then they grow up with social media where other women and men are constantly telling them how beautiful they are. It's no wonder many women feel the…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/23 08:58 PM
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Nope. Lol the absolute vast majority of us men want a relationship with a woman. The dream case for most men is a relationship with one or more women, and having sex with other women on the side, and the woman you're in a relationship being completely happy with it. The next best case for a man is a love-filled monogamous relationship with a woman. Just hookups comes at last place for the vast majority of men. I promise you you're incorrect on this. The slice of men you're interacting with if th…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/23 03:56 PM
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there’s always a woman shorter or taller and open minded to different men. Yep, of course. When I say "women's standards are too high" I mean there are a significant number of women that this applies to (and as such the average). Some women don't have too high standards, and that is fine, those women are not relevant to this discussion.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/23 12:40 PM
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Men have the exact same groups. Err, no we don't. The only person who should be worried is someone who knows they’re a lying, cheating scumbag. Err, no. The ones that have a psycho-ex, which are many of us, should be worried too. I could care less if my guy had vetted me like this, because I don’t fuck around, I don’t play games. You sure none of your exes wouldn't lie about that? The only guy who is going to trash talk me is incredibly unstable and if anyone is going to believe him over me, I d…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/23 08:18 AM
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Almost nobody would be angry with women saying "Yes, my requirements are overinflated from using social media, and because of that I'm happier single than with a guy in my league". But when women instead say "Ugh there's just not enough good men out there, my requirements are so low, but these men are just so shit they can't even meet them", it's no surprise that the average men in their league get angry. Reject them, fine, but don't kick them when they're down after rejecting them. And stop den…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/23 08:10 AM
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Covid will do that. Those of us who survived it likely don't have a reduced life expectancy though.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/23 07:19 AM
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The former, definitely. No amount of learning seduction is going to make you taller.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/23 12:33 AM
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How do I know good men exist? Is that the question?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/23 07:27 AM
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Of course, but a lot of them are good men. There's probably not more good tall men than good short men, so when women filter out all the short men they also filter out all the good short men.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/23 10:33 PM
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Imagine thinking I'm triggered lol. I'm just calmly explaining reality to you. You're the one throwing around insults, you're clearly triggered.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/23 08:19 PM
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Indeed, you're off in a fantasy world whereas I live here on earth. Just do a simple fucking google search and you'll see, but nah you'd probably rather just continue living in fantasy world.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/23 08:11 PM
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Yeah, that's bullshit. It's not. Life expectancy, poverty, food security and quality, healthcare results, crime, amenities etc. etc. You name it, it's all better today than 100 years ago. Things could be a lot better, but they currently are the best they've ever been, and we're in a positive trajectory in almost everything.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/23 08:03 PM
2

They said "most beautiful girls", not "girls". So no, you're wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/23 07:59 PM
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You're telling me that you would rather live during the Great Depression than now? You're an absolute fool if you think that. Our quality of life is orders of magnitude better today.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/23 07:55 PM
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They will grow up in a better world. Every single day of humanity has been a better world than the day before it (barring some temporary extremes like during COVID etc.).
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/23 07:54 PM
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Ok
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/23 04:15 PM
1

This is reddit, whenever your dimentia kicks in you can just scroll up and re-read the comments to figure out what's being talked about instead of typing useless comments like this.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/23 04:13 PM
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Why would I be hurting myself my employing an efficient strategy to filter out people not compatible with myself while dating? You're the one hurting yourself by using a suboptimal strategy.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/23 04:09 PM
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Oh yeah. Weeding out the people who want functioning relationships seems great. You and whatever women you convince of this bullshit weeding yourselves out of the dating market is actually pretty great so the rest of us don't have to deal with you, go for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/23 03:45 PM
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I feel like I see the 6ft stereotype in action. It's usually not expressed that clearly, but when push comes to shove I feel like I see a majority of women filter away short-to-average height men based on their height. And get any woman drunk and she'll admit while laughing that she indeed don't really consider short men for dating at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/23 10:28 AM
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I agree, I think in many ways this sub is the bottom pit with mostly terrible both men and women. But I do think most of the bad men here would be kinda defused if women were dismissing men because they are bitter and misogynist rather than not being 6ft tall. One is something the bitter men can work on and that gives them hope, the other there's nothing they can do anything about so they become bitter and misogynistic instead.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/23 10:09 AM
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If I want to have children with this person one day, what would happen if they found out their mother has nudes online? Coming from a man: Literally nothing dude, who fucking cares lol. Especially when those nudes are 10+ years old. I don't think it's unethical for you to search women up finding out if they have posted nudes, and choosing to not date them because of that. That is fine for you to have that preference, and women are responsible for putting those nudes out there. I think it's impor…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/23 09:09 AM
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It's not just "an important part", it's the core part of a relationship imo. Without it I wouldn't even bother with women at all and just get one or more of my male friends as permanent room-mates probably.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/23 08:53 AM
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As a man there's no way I would date a woman for months without sex. Sexual compatibility is one of the most important things in a relationship, and there's no way I'm wasting months on a relationship without finding out if we're compatible sexually first. If all women did this I would just stay single.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/23 08:51 AM
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I think most men who seem discontent about the unfairness mainly are so because they're tired of women kicking them down by complaining about being single and not being able to find any good men, while they arbitrarily filter out all the good men with their ridiculous standards. I think if women just went "Eh, I'd rather be single than go for people in my league" then I think 99% of these discontent men would be "Eh, fair I guess". Additionally there's a discussion to be had about our society on…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/23 08:44 AM
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I think you would get the opposite effect. Lots of us would get far less social and depression rates would spike. I have some ~10 good IRL friends from way back, but due to work, education, romantic partners etc. we're all scattered across the globe. Video games + group voice/video calls is how we hang out. In addition I have another ~30 good online friends, and video games is how we met, and how we hang out. I spend probably 6 hours per day on average on voice/video calls being social, and mayb…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/23 08:30 AM
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I'm now beginning to truly understand why the current male generation is so screwed up. These guys who care about virginity are a small, small minority of men, so no, you extrapolating these cringe guys to all of the current male generation is asinine.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/23 08:18 AM
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Luckily these men are small minority and most of us other men think they're cringe as fuck. Women's too high standards on the other hand is permeating society.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/23 08:18 AM
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Nice rant. Now answer my question.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/23 09:23 PM
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And again you're missing the whole discussion, throwing out some random familiar platitudes I'm sure you've repeated many times before.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/23 05:38 PM
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Your comment completely misses the point and discussion. Of course we're all just looking for security love and some good sex, regardless of gender. The point and discussion is what divergent strategies men and women use to achieve those goals.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/23 04:41 PM
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What % of today's men (in western countries) do you think are raping and killing women? Just checking to see if we're living in the same universe or if you're in some weird dream universe.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/23 08:46 AM
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Look at what women have been through at the hands of men for 4000 yrs & you ask us for “understanding” instead of working on yourselves. But we are not the ones why have put you through that. Your grandfather and my grandfather, and their fathers did. We, today's men, are the first men to show you that understanding, and to push for your well-being and help you enact an equal world. Why can't you return that understanding in kind to us? We are not our ancestors.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/23 08:00 AM
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So just quickly taking a look at your profile, your entire premise falls because you're simply just not ugly. As to why men keep calling you ugly I don't know, but I can tell you that your lived experience of that is not the norm.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/23 07:40 AM
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She wasn't special before he asked, but when she said yes she became special, even if he asked every woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/23 08:37 AM
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Go the closest good STEM-faculty, go the library, find a cute nerdy guy sitting alone studying. Go sit down next to him and tell him you're meeting your friend in 15 minutes and ask him if he can keep you company for 15 minutes, he won't say no if you're decently cute and he's single (which he most likely is). Talk to him, get to know him, ask him questions. Figure out if he seems empathetic, and intelligent. If he does after 15 minutes tell him you have to go, but say you really like him and as…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/23 09:58 AM
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Yeah, it’s totally Heaven to be inundated with fuckboys and men who think having money means I’m supposed to worship the ground he walks on and men who want a bangmaid who never has needs of her own or men who could not give a shit if sex is good for me It seems like you're lost. We're talking about dating apps and swipe percentages. How do you tell 99% of men are fuckboys and don't give a shit if sex is good from you based on their Tinder profile? The reality is that you assume most guys are de…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/23 07:57 AM
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Overall good comment, well written! What can’t we do? We can’t expect women to change their biological priorities I don't think this is entirely true though. I think women's current biological priorities, or in other words; their unrealistically high standards, comes from the way they're brought up, and the way they use social media in large part. And I think it can be somewhat mitigated. I think most women don't even realize they might have an inflated view of their self-worth, and I don't thin…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/23 11:04 AM
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It kinda does, this woman has fat saturating her face. She would be much less ugly if she lost some weight. But fat 100% does mean unattractive. And the 1-10 scale is based on attractiveness, not ugliness.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/23 09:24 AM
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But the bar is so fucking low that it’s in hell and most men are still not getting over it This is the whole problem, women thinking their bar is in hell while in reality it's in heaven. If you're an average woman and you're only swiping right on 1% of profiles, you will live and die alone. And that is fine, that is your right. But when you then complain that there are no good men, and you say that your bar is in hell, is when you're just dead wrong and you make men feel like shit. The problem i…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/23 09:21 AM
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You are correct that women don't get unconditional love either. I would say the conditions for love are kinder and easier for women though, and they're aligned with what they are taught growing up. Men in our society are taught growing up that just being ourselves is enough and that women will love us for just being us. Which is why it becomes a pretty jarring experience once we get out on the dating market, where either we take the red pill and break the illusion and realise reality, or take th…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/23 07:49 AM
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You hope that I remain single because I understand the concept that different women like different things and that one woman's personal experience on what she likes means nothing to what what women as a whole likes, and because I understand statistics at a 3-year-old level? The lack of critical thinking here is astounding. I'm already in a relationship btw.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/23 02:16 AM
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How is this such an unbelievable concept for you lol. You have to realize that your sample size of one being a woman means basically nothing to what women as a whole want right? Please tell you me you realize this. I'm asking for so little here lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/23 12:36 AM
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That's fair, I was just explaining the "I don't see why".
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/23 09:29 PM
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You have to realize that a man having talked to hundreds or even thousands of women on Tinder etc. has a much better idea about this than you, a woman, would right?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/23 08:43 PM
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What exactly do RP men want? Love. Real unconditional love. All men want this regardless of pill. The thing that red-pillers is about is realizing the world for what it is. That they will never have unconditional love from a woman, it's a fairy tale. So the only thing they can do is try to be as happy as possible in this flawed world. So they settle with conditional love, and make sure to figure out all the conditions, and make damn sure to fulfill them. Look good, be alpha, make good money, mak…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/23 08:40 PM
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It was clearly a hyperbole joke.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/23 08:25 PM
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Being able to sexually please and getting a woman off is a big ego-boost, even if you hate her. I mean I've personally never had sex with a woman I hate, but I imagine that is how it would feel at least.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/23 08:23 PM
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Being able to sexually please and getting a woman off is a big ego-boost, even if you hate her. I mean I've personally never had sex with a woman I hate, but I imagine that is how it would feel at least.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/23 08:23 PM
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I think this post is a push-back to women who use these statistics as part of their misandry. There's a lot of women out there who claims men are selfish assholes and horrible all-around, and the orgasm gap is one of the things they will cite as an argument. That the orgasm gap is at least partly self-inflicted by women is valid push-back to that.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/23 08:19 PM
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i don’t see why a man would insist on eating me out because he only wants to get himself off. that makes zero sense. Not gonna lie, eating out a woman is hot as a guy. Her getting off is a big part of it, but even without that, feeling her pussy with my tongue, tasting it, and seeing it up close, is fucking hot as a guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/23 08:16 PM
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Coming from a guy: The way you say it is gonna make a big difference. My tip would be sit the guy down, look him in the eyes, and tell him "Hey. This is not just me being insecure, or me telling you that I don't want something that I actually really want. I really, honestly, 100% dislike getting eaten out, and I don't want you to ever do it. I dislike it so much that I'm sorry but I can't stand it even if it is something you enjoy doing. So don't eat me out, ok?". After that if he ever goes near…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/23 08:14 PM
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Online dating is based on first impressions. Not inherently. It is if you make it like that, and many people do. But if you're filtering out 100% of the people based on your first impressions of their profile you're clearly fucking up. If you can’t be assed to put effort into that, why should one believe you will put effort into dating, relationships, or anything else? Because there's no co-relation between the two. Just because you half-ass some things doesn't mean you half-ass everything. Addi…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/23 01:38 PM
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No I'm right. You're not even countering my point. Shitty profiles and horrible pictures is a terrible reason to be single forever for. Like I said if you're swiping right on too many people, getting too many matches, then sure start filtering people away based on those. But to go through Tinder and say "there's no good guys" because they don't have great pictures is asinine. Having great pictures on Tinder is not a factor for if they'd be a good partner for you unless you're really really into …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/23 01:05 PM
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I don't understand why you wrote this comment. You are just re-explaining everything you already said in the previous comment. There is nothing for me to respond to here, my previous comment still stands. Your minimum requirements are silly and your standards are too high. "Happy ever after" is right there for you to grab it, but you're pushing it away.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/23 09:12 AM
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No, that is him broadening the perspective and talking about it from a societal point of view rather than a personal one. I'm a pretty high % man and I do pretty well with women, but I'm still interested in the societal issues that the warped dating market is causing right now, even if they don't really affect me personally.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/23 08:54 AM
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I just gotta say, you are the perfect example for men to link to when they talk about how easy it is for women in the dating scene and how womens standards are way too high preventing themselves from finding a relationship. By your own admission you're a somewhat average woman and you're still getting 100+ likes. But, the more important thing, you have it in your head that the men on Tinder are all just bottom trash when in reality what you're seeing is probably an average slice of men across th…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/23 08:46 AM
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His point was that narcissism comes from getting attention and therefore incels can’t be narcissists. No, that's a strawman. Every comment above you says "More likely", which clearly acknowledges that even unattractive men can be narcissists.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/23 08:07 AM
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"Do the opposite of what every woman says she likes" is quite the strawman of "women give the worst advice for dating especially for men", good job being bad faith.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/23 07:51 AM
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definitely better I think it's about the same, not better. But you should be listening to the guys that are getting women of course.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/23 07:46 AM
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But we're talking about advice for dating, not about underlying hurt or getting perspective. "Show that you are emotionally vulnerable" isn't going to show me some underlying hurt that I wasn't considering before, nor show me a new perspective. It's just shitty advice that I shouldn't be listening (taking to heart) to.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/23 07:30 PM
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I felt like in this context listening = taking to heart, otherwise no shit listening can't physically hurt you. We're talking about whether or not men should take advice for dating from women. The point here isn't that there's nothing a woman can teach, the point is that what the woman will teach is likely incorrect and bad, you're better off not listening (taking to heart) to her.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/23 06:23 PM
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I think a lot of lurkers here change their viewpoints probably, but the people writing comments here come here to fight on the battleground. That usually isn't conducive for changing viewpoints. But it's good that you agree that you were incorrect in calling this an echo chamber.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/23 06:12 PM
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This subreddit is the exact opposite of an echo chamber. It's literally a battleground between two points of view.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/23 06:02 PM
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Who said it was? I was describing how the warped preferences of the different genders have different effects.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/23 06:00 PM
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How has pornography and plastic surgery warped men's minds as to what men actually find attractive? It absolutely has, and leads to things like erectile dysfunction. However men's warped preferences doesn't really affect the dating market that much I think because men will generally happily settle with "good enough". While we might prefer fake big tits that defy gravity due to porn, any tits are good tits and we'll happily settle with them. It feels like it's different for women though, where th…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/23 05:57 PM
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listening is not going to hurt you. I mean it could. Bad advice is bad advice, and if you listen to it (as in take it to heart and act on it) it will hurt you.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/23 05:42 PM
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You realize the men in "PurplePillDebate" is not a homogeneous group right? As per design of the subreddit pretty much. The men saying women only like assholes and are verbally abusing women are not the same men that ask women for advice on where to meet them.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/23 09:22 AM
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While most men probably do have family and friends, they don't have the opportunity to meet potential partners through said family and friends. While I hang out with my friends and family fairly often, the amount of times that a potential partner for me has been included in that hangout is very low, probably less than 3 times in my life.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/23 09:08 AM
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I think a lot of average women, thanks to growing up constantly being told they're a beautiful princess and having men simp for them on social medias, and thanks to having some form of success having casual sex with top-men, have an inflated view of their own worth in the dating market. They fully believe they are top-women and that they deserve a top-man. If we can pierce this illusion I think a lot of these average women would be totally fine dating average men instead. The crushing reality fo…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/23 08:50 AM
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What you're describing is absolutely a factor, but I don't think it makes up the full difference we're seeing. And I don't think people in their twenties don't want to have relationships like you say. For marriage and children it's absolutely true that it's pushed way back and young people don't want that anymore. But relationships of some form I think almost everybody older than like 18 wants, and we're seeing less and less succeed at getting that.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/23 11:52 PM
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You think there's only a single study out there on what % of our population are in relationships? A quick google-search brings a plethora of results, and they all show roughly the same thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/23 11:27 PM
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Every heterosexual man I know in real life is either married or dating someone or many someones, implies that the men aren't having in problems. You realize there are statistics on this just one swift google-search away that you can look at instead of relying on your skewed anecdotal data?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/23 11:02 PM
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Most men are in relationships. If you include previous generations that had a very different dating scene, sure. But most young (like 18-30) men are not in relationships today, which wasn't the case in the past.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/23 10:59 PM
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They don't mean "you're in the top 80th percentile of men and she is in the top 90th percentile of women, which means you may or may not have a chance based on current market conditions." Yes, this is literally what they mean. I'm referring to the bottom 40% of women in your chart who you insist they are ignoring the men "in her league" despite the fact she's dating better men. That's what's confusing to me, it's delusional to think you are on the same level as a group of woman who is consistent…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/23 06:39 PM
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Why is the 50th percentile man in the same "league" as the 50th percentile woman? Because that's literally how the league-concept of dating work. It's based on top percentile within your gender. Your league is just the best partner you can get under normal circumstances. Yes, and like I explained it's a zero-sum game. A top 10% woman is playing in the top 10% league and can get a top 10% man. A top 50% woman trying to play in the top 50% league is going to fail miserably because they can't get t…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/23 04:51 PM
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Let me draw this out for you so you understand: There's 10 men, each of them representing 10% of all men, rated on a 1-10 scale from left to right, drawn as a +. There's 10 women, each of them representing 10% of all women, rated on a 1-10 scale from left to right, drawn as a -. + + + + + + + + + + - - - - - - - - - - - - - - In a perfect world it would look something like this: + + + + + + + + + + | | | | | | | | | | | | | | - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Everybody finds someone in their league, a…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/23 01:06 PM
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As a man in my 30's I have sex with my GF every morning (and sometimes in the afternoon/evening again) and that's the way I (and she) like it. I don't really do it for validation, I do it because it's fun and feels good. And while I can manage my hornyness for less sex than that, I prefer not to. Sex once every 1-2 weeks is something most men accept when their woman doesn't want more sex than that, not something they prefer. I don't see why sex every day or even twice per day wouldn't be "manage…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/23 09:16 AM
1

The market determines your value, if you can't find someone you want who wants you, you're trying to date out of your league. Not really, it could also mean that the people in your league are trying to date out of their league. If 50% of women are trying to date out of their league, and are failing to do so ending up single, 50% of men are also going to be single because they can't find any women to date, regardless of their standards. It's a zero-sum game, for every person taking themselves out…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/23 08:50 AM
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I hate this mentality of arguing "just because I have a penis" "I am literally just a woman with a dangly thing in between my legs" No you are not. You know damn well that men and women are very different. Grow up different, develop different and behave different. The point is that the only relevant difference is "commits violent and sexual crimes", and I'm not in that group, but I get lumped into it because of an irrelevant difference, that I'm a man. You as a man are already much less of a tar…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/23 08:01 AM
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Most of us have a biological need for a partner and are not happy long-term being single. And from a societal point of view it's not good when a large percentage of the population are unhappy due to being single, and also because we need a new generation that is born after us for us to be able to retire and that won't happen if everyone is single, and some other negative effects like housing being less attainable if everyone is single. It's in all of ours best interest, both personally and socie…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/23 06:00 PM
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That's true, having a daughter might change my view and make me agree with this. In your previous comment you said "anyone who opposes this is retarded" though, and I oppose that. Just because I don't have a daughter yet that makes me willing to give up my own freedom for her benefit doesn't make me retarded, or not grown up.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/23 03:43 PM
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I hate when I get lumped in with the creepy and abusive men. I too wanna go on the safe train and to the safe gym, why shouldn't I be offered the same safety just because I was born with a penis between my legs? I think statistics even shows that as a man I'm more likely to be a victim (robbery and assault etc. being more common overall and more often has men victims) of these fucks, so I need these protections even more than women do. Just because the vast majority of perpetrators are men doesn…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/23 03:37 PM
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