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I don't understand what you mean... we KNOW men cost the taxpayers millions by not paying child support and taxpayers having to support their kids. How are you just flat out denying that? Do I really need to look up stats about how most single parents are female?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/17 12:42 AM
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You're gonna hate me for this but... would you really put survival of civilization and all values at it's core on the card that women have the same mental capacities as men to the extent that women could provide mental force enough to keep advancing science and technology at reasonable pace? Of course I would, we already that. Women headed the space program that put humanity on the moon, created the technology for wifi, etc. No, to be honest, hypothesis I stick to currently is that women are inf…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/17 12:40 AM
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lol wut. Do you not understand how procreation works? It takes 2 people, male and female, to make a baby. Typically single parents are mothers... that means women are the only ones taking care of the kids, not the only ones responsible for them. Deadbeat dads cost taxpayers millions, not the moms.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/17 12:37 AM
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What are you talking about? Men are currently a huge drain on taxpayers! Prisoners, deadbeat dads, men that live with their moms...
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/17 10:40 PM
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Of course they do... not only that, but their kids do! Because they don't pay child support because they don't have jobs...
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/17 10:39 PM
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Why would men specifically be needed in these scenarios? It seems like all these problems would need to be solved with technological advancements, which could be made by men or women. The only job men specifically are needed would be for construction or other hard labor jobs, since men are obviously much more physically capable than women.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/17 10:38 PM
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It doesn't.... He had a good meal, had good company (I'm assuming, he chose the company so he must like her), and probably figured out if she was interested in him or not.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/17 10:34 PM
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Why does having ONS make a person dumb? Sometimes men and women simply want to have sex without the whole shebang of a relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/17 09:57 PM
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Whenever we mention the irrefutable fact that women have higher libido than men there's always some misunderstanding going on so we need to clarify that: 1) higher libido doesn't mean more intense but rather more frequent and more reactive. 2) if any man attempts to prove it wrong by mentioning that 'I have a higher libido than my girlfriend', such argument is invalid because: a) it's just one case and therefore not statistically relevant. b) your gf might have different reasons for her low libi…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/17 09:55 PM
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Except I'm not actively trying to sleep with them and I genuinely do enjoy spending time with them. Why are you assuming so much shit? Listen, when you see groups of guys and girls who are friends, arent they all the same general attractiveness level?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/17 04:21 PM
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Except I literally said the opposite.... Men and women CAN be friends. And often times it is encouraged because of a mutual attraction.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/17 01:06 AM
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Lets be honest. A lot of opposite sex friendships are based on sexual tension. I'm not say men and women can't be friends, but I think a lot more of those friendships than we would like to admit wouldn't exist if we didn't kinda want to bang our friends haha
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/17 12:25 AM
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All the attractive ones ;)
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/17 10:10 PM
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How am I devaluing any sort of relationship? Please quote me.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/17 10:09 PM
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Well, statistically, that is the least likely way to find a long lasting relationship. Tinder specifically is the least successful dating app OR online account. I'm not shaming anyone! If you meet your SO that way thats great, but most people don't. If you were genuinely looking for a partner, you can't use the least successful method and then complain it doesn't work.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/17 02:11 PM
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Honestly, it doesn't matter when we are talking about accepting students. Accepting students = choosing the best and rewarding them for whatever they were doing and studying before applying. You have a fundamental misunderstanding of why colleges accept students. It is not to "reward them". They accept the students they think will be the most successful. Successful students = more money and prestige for the university when that student becomes alumni. No, I don't understand. How does it matter w…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/17 09:01 PM
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Im not talking about my experience though... I'm speaking to the statistics. I have never once said anything about my own experiences, this is all based on statistics.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/17 08:51 PM
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This is actually how most people meet their SOs. Not bars or tinder...
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/17 08:48 PM
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And a mens only shelter wont kick out any men. So how exactly do women get more help than men?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/17 08:47 PM
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But it's still the fastest growing population... by a large amount.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/17 12:22 AM
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Yeah let me just get a gym membership and watch my diet while I'm homeless -_- and survive 1-2 years for it to take into effect. How dumb to you have to be to think looking attractive is going to be in a woman's priorities when she doesn't know when her next shower will be?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/17 12:21 AM
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For less than 1/3 of it... so we are already at the top 30% of women. Then be white, obviously you can't change that. Then be attractive, okay well you could use makeup except you're homeless so hopefully you were born hot too. Oh and good luck looking hot when you smell like garbage because you don't have access to a shower... So I think we might be into 10% of homeless women who benefit from being female? If even that? Now how many homeless women are at an increase risk of sexual assault just …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/17 12:20 AM
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Read the whole source, it does state that almost all of these families are single parent. It doesn't say specifically single moms, but other sources (I'll link below) say that over 82% of single parent families are female headed. https://www.thespruce.com/single-parent-census-data-2997668
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/17 08:26 PM
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If the red pill cared about science or reality, there wouldn't be a red pill in the first place. They live in their own delusional world, you can't logically reason with them not matter how much science is on your side.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/17 07:56 PM
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I'm just saying, this only applies to 10-20% of women. Not most women at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/17 04:19 PM
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She was not seen walking with him outside the bar though. He found her passed out and dragged her behind a dumpster. I never said I was going to find you a quote? I'm asking you what your argument was. I'm arguing attractiveness plays 0 part in sexual assault. If you're raped it doesn't matter at all how attractive the person was.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/17 04:18 PM
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Your argument wasn't that more attractive men could get away with sexual assault more? Well then what was your argument? You think she left the bar with him and then just pretended to be unconscious to get him in trouble...? No darling.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/17 03:52 PM
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Uh huh. You don't think your wife would want to see pics of you skydiving? Or find it suspicious that you gave a thousand dollars as a "gift" to a woman? Prostitutes would be less discreet. If they know you're famous they will just go to the tabloids to make more money and fame off of being the girl you cheat with. Just go to a bar, pick up a stranger, and give her a fake name so there's no paper trail.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/17 03:51 PM
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You can pay with cash too I'm sure. But either way, how are you going to explain the hundreds to thousands gone from your bank account? And again, whyyyy pay hundreds or thousands if you can get it for free?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/17 03:04 PM
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But she wasn't managing... she was the main coder.... lol
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/17 02:39 PM
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That's fine if women give their variety of opinions! But men should not assume they know what women think and then say them as if they are fact. At the very least he should have said "I think women probably think that...."
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/17 02:38 PM
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I agree men helped, but she was the leader of the team. She was the lead programmer because she was the best programmer. Even getting to that position in the 60s means she had to be even more qualified than all those guys, women did not get those opportunities back then without being much more successful than their male counterparts. Even today, women have to work 2x as hard as men to prove themselves because sexist people think women are automatically dumber than men, even though it's been prov…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/17 02:11 PM
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Okay! Just don't say "oh women think like this" because if you're not a woman you're obviously going to be wrong about what women think...
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/17 02:04 PM
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If he's willing to cheat with a prostitute he would be willing to cheat for free... the only difference is with a prostitute there's a paper trail. There's $ missing from the bank account. If he gets sex for free (like a high value man would) he can hook up with a random girl and give her a fake number. And again, why pay for it if you could get it for free? That's what it all comes back to.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/17 02:03 PM
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Because it's a huge problem in our society! That's like saying "men must like being the disposable gender because they talk about it a lot" 😐 that's not how it works bro.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/17 01:59 PM
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You're not a woman, why are you pretending to know how they think? And no, as an actual woman, I brag about the guys I've fucked. Fucking a hot guy is something to be excited about and tell your friends about, having an ugly guy hit on you is almost insulting because it's like... why do you think you have a chance? Haha but I guess that's pretty terrible to think.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/17 01:56 PM
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Uh no a woman didn't "persuade men" to write the code. There weren't any men around who could do it! If they could have written a code that would make them world famous and gotten the first man on the moon, they would have... but they couldn't. The only one smart enough was a woman :) https://www.wired.com/2015/10/margaret-hamilton-nasa-apollo/ I agree men are bigger and stronger. So the only jobs that would cause men to be better equipped would be labor jobs. Why do you think women are more man…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/17 01:52 PM
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But what is a "Chad"? I think these guys have seen girls they like get with more attractive guys than them.... and that makes them insecure.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/17 01:44 PM
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You don't think female congressmen exist? Wut. Yes, of course feminism has always been about equality! That's why we wanted there to be an equal draft. That's why we want equal prison sentencing. Equal everything! If everything was 50/50, I would be extremely happy. I agree with your third point. Uh no we should still legalize weed. Men do tend to commit more crimes unfortunately. That has a lot to do with gang activity, which women are much less likely to be apart of. Also, men are much more li…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/17 01:34 PM
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Why would high value men pay money for a woman to fuck him? A high value man could get any woman he wanted for free because he is desired by lots of women.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/17 01:30 PM
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Actually it's completely true. http://www.nationalhomeless.org/factsheets/families.html 41% of homeless are families. They are the fastest growing segment of the homeless population.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/17 01:29 PM
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What is your proof of that? Your sexism is showing. You're assuming those women in those positions didn't put in just as much work (if not MORE to overcome the obstacles men don't face in that field) and they are dumb. It is extremely sexist to assume that because they are women they are only there for the title. A woman wrote the code that got us to the moon, a woman was the most famous physicist, and we've only had the opportunity to study the sciences in academia for about 100 years. Men are …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/17 01:28 PM
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Everywhere unfortunately :/ I may have to make a thread. It's surprising how many people on this thread straight up deny sexism exists (but they are usually the most sexist ones ha I guess they don't see the irony).
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/17 01:23 PM
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http://www.nationalhomeless.org/factsheets/families.html 41% of homeless are families with children. This is the largest growing segment of the homeless population.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/17 01:21 PM
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10% of all women? Pretty high....
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/17 01:18 PM
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But women already do those jobs haha. So... how can you tell them they are too dumb to do something they are literally already doing? Also, I hate to tell you, the average IQ for both men and women are equal. So if you think women are dumb.... 😬
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/17 01:17 PM
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Blue pill is a satire sub, so of course there are less posts. You can't make fun of something that's not posted. Lol no, red pill ideas USE TO be rampant... in the 50s... but obviously we have been moving away from sexism. 40% of married women are breadwinners and 16% of men are SAHDs. Men are no longer providers, men and women are equals I agree, most women on dating sites are looking to date lol. But most women still hook up at some point in their lives. Again, we can want to fuck a guy withou…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/17 01:15 PM
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There aren't many red pill posts. There's 3.5 billion men in the world. A very very very very very small % even know what red pill is, let alone read it, let alone post. Of course women do hook ups. If they told you otherwise it was because they don't do hook ups with you. Almost everyone has some form of causal sex in their lifetime. You think women don't get bored? Or horny? Or want to fuck that hot guy without having to marry him? Nope. I have to use a famous example because otherwise you won…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/17 05:57 AM
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So he's a low quality man who wants to fuck up? I understand, but he's still low quality. He wants to try something that NO non prostitute would do? I can't imagine what that would be. There are some freeakkyy women out there... If he can't get a willing fwb he's a low quality man If he can't get a LTR he's a low quality man.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/17 05:38 AM
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Yeah I didn't understand it. Hookups do happen... so not sure what you meant by no hook ups? If women could have sex with every guy they wanted, men like Chris Pratt wouldn't even have a dick left because all the pussy would have eroded it.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/17 05:35 AM
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If they could get sex for free they wouldn't be paying for it. So yes, they are low value. If you offer enough money, you can find a girl (or guy! Whatever you're into no judgement) willing to do whatever you want.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/17 05:10 AM
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Yeah there are a lot of guys I'd fuck but not date too. That doesn't mean I would rape them or flat out deceive them into fucking me. Most people wouldn't.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/17 05:08 AM
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Well I'm just saying. Very few men sink to that level of desperation to get laid. You're acting like all men are horrible rapists unable to control their urges and that's not true. 90% of men are respectful of women and respect their right to choose their partners (so they are honest with them and respect the woman's right to reject them).
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/17 05:00 AM
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Umm on some level this is about gender discrimination. Are homeless women more likely to be helped? Yes, if they are attractive (which is very hard to do with no access to a shower or anything). Are homeless women also more likely to be sexually abused? Yes. So.. not sure what the hell youre going on about, but please stay on topic!
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/17 04:54 AM
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Lying is much worse. I wouldn't date a guy who has done either of these things. I think prostitution should be legalized, but since it is used almost exclusively by low value men, I would not be interested in that man. No. Not most men have done that. Only 7% of men are rapists, I don't know how many have seen a prostitute but a high estimation would be 10%.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/17 04:50 AM
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I think you mean and average woman who is under 30, whose skinny, and white.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/17 04:39 AM
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Uh no... pretty sure they would rather NOT be homeless and addicted to drugs... wtf. How would getting more drugs help them be less homeless?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/17 04:38 AM
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You can't complain about the equality movement being called "feminism" when all of human history is called "MANkind" lol
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/17 04:37 AM
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People who say otherwise, generally do so because they don't support equality. YEEESSSSS. So fucking accurate. People try to discredit feminism because they don't want feminism to succeed and actually make women more equal. I need to make a whole thread on this -_-
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/17 04:35 AM
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But are druggie guys going to help the homeless druggie girls? Probably not. They will just encourage their drug use if anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/17 04:33 AM
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That's true. I'm just saying, if you're upset about male homeless population just be aware women with kids is about to be bigger.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/17 04:33 AM
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USA. I don't know the raw numbers. Edit: 41% of homeless are families with kids. http://www.nationalhomeless.org/factsheets/families.html that's all the info I have.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/17 04:21 AM
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Nah. They have to be under 30, probably white or at least white features, skinny, not addicted to drugs or mental illness (most homeless are so good luck on that alone). That's like 10-15% of all women. Maybe.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/17 04:20 AM
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Or smoking or having an eating disorder! Being obese and smoking cigarettes are the two biggest co-morbidities of almost any disease process.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/17 04:09 AM
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Only if you're attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/17 04:03 AM
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Actuallllyyyyy women with children are the #1 growing homeless population.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/17 04:02 AM
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I think it's awesome! He talks about how hard it is to be a SAHD and how exhausting it is. That's really cool he has that perspective. All too often people think stay at home parents just, as he put it, "stay home and watch tv all day" so more men finding out it's actually hard af? That's great, we need more respect for SAHP. But he talks about how exhausted he is and how depressed he is... that is extremely common for SAHMs too. Also, divorce skyrockets within 3 years of having a kid. So it's n…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/17 12:13 AM
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Yes they were feminist congressmen. So they could put forth a bill... and even if it got rid of the draft, then men and women would still be equal right? Either way, they were going to get equality for men and women. Yes this would directly help end sexism in sentencing. Men are much more likely to be arrested for marijuana use and other non violent crimes. So by making marijuana legal, we help decrease the gender gap in sentencing.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/17 11:46 PM
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Yes... hence why it's happening... hence why women are now bread winners 40% of the time and men are SAHDs 16% of the time. 50 years ago this was unheard of. http://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/7261020
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/17 11:43 PM
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By destigmatizing gender roles, feminism allows men to be masculine and SAHDs. It isn't "feminine" to be a SAHD, you can be a masculine SAHD. It also empowers women to work so that logistically, men don't have to. So yeah... destigmatizing "masculinity" to mean they have to be a provider + empowering women to work = more SAHDs :)
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/17 11:34 PM
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2 feminists put forth a bill to get women included in the draft in 2016. Guess who shot it down? A man. He was the most vocal opponent, and basically said women couldn't handle combat and would ruin the military -_- of course feminists want the draft to be equal! As far as prison sentences go, feminism mainly wants to revamp the entire prison system. The problem isn't that men get longer sentences, the problem is that we have for-profit prisons which incentives prisons to keep people locked up f…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/17 11:23 PM
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If women work, men don't have to work as much... -_- if your family needs 50k to support them and your husband has a college degree while you have a GED, who is going to work? Especially if mom works, the kids have to go daycare which is expensive. Women working = men don't have to work. Also, feminism is all about taking down gender roles. Men don't need to be providers and women don't need to be caretakers. We don't believe either gender is predisposed to be something. We believe both genders …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/17 11:03 PM
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Stacies don't get the least sex though. 10s get less sex than 9s because their dating pool is smaller. Because everyone dates down a little, not a lot. 10s can date 9s and 10s. 9s can date 8s, 9s and 10s. Make sense? Yes hot people get fucked more. That doesn't prove women only fuck upward.... -__- Jesus Christ how many times do I have to explain this to you?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/17 10:57 PM
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Uh... all of history? Haha, suffragettes starved themselves to get women the right to vote way back in 1920, then NOW got women to be able to go to college and get an equal education, then when men came back from WW2 in 1942 and wanted their jobs back women protested in the streets, then in the 60s civil rights protests for equal pay started for women, then there were bra burnings in the 70s to protest sexual harassment and unfair working conditions for women. So yeah... it's been a basic tenet …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/17 10:55 PM
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Wow that's such a privileged position to say that. Male rape is almost entirely done to young boys and in prison, so you have virtually no chance of being raped so of course you would act like rape is no big deal. Let me know when those steel toed boots make you have deformed feet that make you get surgery and lose the function to walk properly. You can still value what she says. You don't have to ignore it just because she has a vagina.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/17 10:32 PM
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Stay at home dads! Feminism encourages women to get educated and get in the workforce. It's not up to the man to provide anymore, it's up to both of them. 50 years ago if a man was a SAHD people would call him a pussy or question his masculinity. Feminism has completely changed that narrative. Currently in the US 40% of married women are the bread winners.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/17 10:30 PM
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You haven't provided any sources either haha. Your 1 source just said the more attractive you are the more sex you have -_- duh. No one is arguing that. Who said women don't fuck down? Of course they do, everyone does! A 7 will fuck a 6+ (or 5 if they are desperate I guess). No one fucks down a ton... well unless they are getting paid. Which brings me to my other point! Men are MUCH more likely to demand partners of higher SMV than themselves. 50 year old men try to hit on 20 year old women all …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/17 10:28 PM
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You're literally complaining men have more rights than women. It doesn't cover female birth control, it only covers vasectomies when they are medically necessary, and it does cover penis pills and viagra. Stop complaining. Or least advocate for equality.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/17 08:44 PM
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Just logic! Hot people are intimidating and less people match up with them. An 8 will gladly have sex with 7-10, but a 10 will only have sex with 9s and 10s. So naturally, 8s and 9s would hit the sweet spot of being wanted by most people and having a large group they want to fuck. 10s have a much smaller group.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/17 08:40 PM
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I agree, and thanks to feminism we have been moving away from those gender roles.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/17 08:38 PM
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First of all, 99% of sex happens in a relationship. There's been numerous studies on this. 50% of married men have sex more than once a week while only 1% of single men do. So only talking about casual sex excludes 99% of sex. Secondly, attractive people have more sex! Of both genders! No, hot women do not have less sex than ugly women. Maybe 9s have more sex than 10s, but 5s don't have more sex than 10s.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/17 07:52 PM
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Sure. Have you ever heard of a dad doing a parenting duty referred to as "babysitting"? As if it was moms job to take care of the kid and dad isn't just doing his share of the parenting by watching the kid.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/17 07:49 PM
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I'm not downvoitng or retreating dude. It's completely ignorant to pretend that women aren't just as sexual as men. The human race would literally not have survived for hundreds of thousands of years if both genders didn't want to fuck each other's brains out more than anything else. It's our most primitive desire, it's literally the biological purpose of life. Some men simply do not understand women's sex drive and think men's is somehow stronger or something. It's not. Women have historically …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/17 07:20 PM
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What is your source that women can't do these jobs? By your own sources women are currently doing these jobs lol. I guess you better tell them their vaginas make them unable to do math!
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/17 07:19 PM
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Of course ACA doesn't cover condoms... you don't need a prescription for condoms! No doctors visits, no monthly prescription, no annual check ups, etc. they are $1 or less and available at every corner store. Vasectomys are covered by ACA, so are penis pills!
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/17 07:18 PM
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Okay so now you also have to live in a big city to have that opportunity. So let's recant your original statement of: all attractive women get offered expensive cars and trips. Here's your new statement: women in the top 10% of attractiveness who also live in big cities where these guys are present could get trips and expensive cars if they worked for it by using makeup and nice clothes and seeking out these men.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/17 07:16 PM
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Attractive people have more sex. How does that prove that women only fuck upwards??? You're still completely ignoring that part!
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/17 07:13 PM
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I think they should be shamed (any parent who doesn't take care of their kid should be) but no, they are not shamed by society in general.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/17 07:12 PM
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Then why should I pay for your vasectomy? How is that fair? That's WAY more expensive than birth control.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/17 04:53 PM
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Lol why not?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/17 04:53 PM
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Yes, so physical attractiveness increases your chances of getting casual sex. So chads and stacies are banging each other.... You're acting like hot people don't get more sexual attention in general.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/17 04:52 PM
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No.. men are definitely not shamed for not raising them. Single moms are more shamed for being single. If what you said was true, why are there more single moms than ever before? If men were shamed for not raising their kid there would be less men not raising their kids -_-
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/17 04:51 PM
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Nope. Even when mom and dad work equal hours outside of the home, moms still do twice the childcare.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/17 04:46 PM
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All of the jobs you listed can be replaced by women... All jobs can be done by both genders haha. Well except manual labor, that often requires more physical strength so I can understand men being preferred.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/17 04:45 PM
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Your study does not show Chads get the lions share of sex. Chads will have sex with stacies... so even if chads do get the lions share, it will be with stacies. How the hell does sex drive correlate with attractiveness?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/17 04:32 PM
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That's simply not true. Do you have ANY evidence at all to back up the claim that 10-20% of women get offered 70k cars and exotic trips in private jets?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/17 04:31 PM
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Is there any other kind of compliments or attention? All compliments are free... Yes they do! What? Men get praised for their accomplishments much more than women! Because women are expected to do those things! Women are expected to stay home and take care of the kids, so if they have well behaved kids they don't get praised for that. If a dad takes his kid out and he's well behaved it's "omg what a good dad for baby sitting". Because she is expected to raise good kids, he is not expected to do …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/17 04:29 PM
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Rape is illegal but we hardly punish it. The average punishment for a rapist is less than 4 years in jail. False rape accusations make up 2% of all rape accusations according to the FBI Beard of Statistics. A lot of companies do require heels though. Men's dress shoes being uncomfortable? Get different dress shoes. Women having to literally walk on stilts? You can't but other shoes because you must wear stilts. Also uncomfortable isn't the same as needing surgery for it literally causing damage …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/17 04:26 PM
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But you originally said all attractive women get that stuff and then you changed your story to different buckets. So you went from saying all attractive women get that stuff (which is very wrong and actually impossible) to saying .1% of women get that stuff (which is probably true). Do you understand the massive difference in your stance of the top 20-30% of women getting that stuff and the top .1%?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/17 04:22 PM
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She didn't leave the bar with him.... she left the bar, he found her passed out... You're argument was that attractive men can get away with sexual harassment and assault. Actually I guess your argument was that harassment is somehow based on the mans attractiveness. This is just 1 example that proves that is not true. Yes it is wrong to keep a woman in your basement... and it is also wrong to grab her butt without asking for her consent to touch her private areas. Both are wrong, both would not…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/17 04:20 PM
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Name one institution that is racist? The police. And yes, individual cops do go to court for race issues and entire departments are investigated for racial discrimination and have been found guilty of that (like fetguson) but tell me again how it doesn't exist? Name one institution that is sexist? Health care. Companies can choose to not cover women's medical expenses but cannot choose if they can cover men's.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/17 04:17 PM
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People having casual sex has nothing to do with attractiveness. Stacies have casual sex, so do 3s. Chads have casual sex so do 3s. Attractiveness is not correlated to sex drive or views on sex. Attractive people can want ONS sometimes and ugly people can never want ONS because their view on sex more conservative.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/17 04:10 PM
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Yeah I agree supermodels get offered that shit. But not 99% of women...
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/17 04:07 PM
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Well he ultimately changed his points to include tiers, yes, but that wasn't his original point. He had to modify it because I proved him very wrong. So he basically did end up admitting only the tip .1% of women get those things he just acted like every woman was the .1%.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/17 03:49 PM
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Yeah the human sex drive is always present.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/17 03:45 PM
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I agree. And it's fine to approach women, but the problem is when men become too persistent, get angry when women say no, grab them without permission (like grab their butt in a bar) or simply won't leave them alone. Those things are sexual harassment/assault.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/17 03:32 PM
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No? When did I ever talk about my own experiences? I have only been soeaking to the stats.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/17 03:31 PM
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What? It's not ME, I don't have casual sex I have a boyfriend. I am talking about statistics of women... statistically, women are over 2x more likely to have painful casual sex than an orgasm from casual sex. And again, it won't cure loneliness. If it did, everyone would be having it all the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/17 03:20 PM
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What? Because women like to fuck attractive men they only have causal sex with 9s and 10s??? Lol no. EVERYONE wants to fuck attractive people. By that logic, only 9 and 10 women have casual sex. You know most men and women have causal sex right? And most men and women aren't 9s and 10a 😐
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/17 03:16 PM
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That's EVERYWHERE. So women shouldn't go outside unless they are okay with being sexual harassment? That's the exact same mentality of the Middle East and why women have to have escorts all the time, because not having them means they consent to rape...
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/17 03:14 PM
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There's a difference in "approach women as friends" and "make friends with women with the expectation that she will fuck you".
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/17 03:13 PM
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Yeah of course! The issue is when guys are too persistent and don't take no for an answer. Or they get mad. Or they don't even ask and just grab your body.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/17 03:12 PM
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Nah, just don't act like you are fine with being friends if you aren't. Don't get mad at her if she's not interested. Don't become her best friend and then 3 years later get mad she never fucked you.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/17 03:10 PM
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Then why do ONS result in such poor orgasm results for women? Why do men not care that they are causing women pain during sex?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/17 03:09 PM
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They don't care what you're into, they have no interest in the girls orgasm. You're literally just cheaper than a pocket pussy.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/17 02:54 PM
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You can get to one on one situations in a hobby setting! Bars are the opposite of a one on one situation!
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/17 02:47 PM
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Yeah what I was doing wrong was being used as a sex toy. Hence why women don't have sex with random guys, and apparently that's why everyone is lonely ;)
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/17 02:46 PM
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Go on CL. It is offered a lot there. You can LTR a prostitute or stripper. Hell, sugar babies exist for that reason. The difference is that women wanting an orgasm is seen as "entitled" and men wanting women to throw themselves at him is not.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/17 02:39 PM
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Yeah exactly it's literally like super models and stuff. The guy I was arguing with said ALL attractive women got offered this shit lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/17 02:35 PM
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No then stop doing it! Wtf that's not healthy at all! Do you see a therapist? Read my comment above. Join a group or activity that you like. It can literally be a chess club, so it's mostly quiet. That will be a lot easier on your social anxiety than cold approaching women in bars, AND they will be much less likely to reject since it's a social group!
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/17 02:34 PM
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Men can get sex just as easily as women through prostitutes. How does that cure loneliness?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/17 02:33 PM
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No we don't, that's like saying men have more sexual options because they can use prostitutes. These "options" aren't valid for most people. Seriously, men can use prostitutes if random sex helped cure loneliness. Probably cheaper than a therapist...
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/17 02:28 PM
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But it's not stressful for you to cold approach women?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/17 02:27 PM
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Okay then you can't say they were bigger lol. "There's no evidence for this so I can just make it up to fit my narrative because it could be true" Ahh yes, feminist don't want equal responsibility for women! That's why we want women in the work force in equal numbers right?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/17 02:25 PM
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What? To options? Make full sentences! Women feel entitled to options because they don't want to be valued as less than a sex toy and have painful sex? We were talking about how meaningless sex doesn't cure loneliness. Having options of meaningless sex doesn't cure loneliness either, everyone has that. If you think random sexual cures loneliness, why don't more people have it? Why don't more lonely men go to prostitutes and more lonely women don't fuck randoms?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/17 02:23 PM
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Go on Craigslist. Oh it's dangerous and you're worried about cops? Yeah well women are worried about being raped and murdered by the strangers they go home with. Okay please link one of these studies because I don't believe you at all. Women don't pick guys more attractive than them for ONS.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/17 02:21 PM
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Women feel they are entitled because they want to enjoy sex? .... that's not entitlement...
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/17 02:19 PM
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Okay thank you for agreeing with me, I was beginning to think everyone lived in Dubai or something haha.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/17 02:18 PM
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1 and 3 are very real problems in the West. But 2 is still a feminist issue... ever heard of a little project called Let Girls Learn? Yeah... But I think everyone has had 3 happen to them. If you've ever worked anywhere with a sexist dress code, you have experienced 3 too. According to John Hopkins, the #1 reason for foot surgeries are women wearing heels. So just imagine you are forced to wear heels at your job while your male coworkers arent. There is no purpose, they don't help you do your jo…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/17 02:17 PM
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I mean... if it cured women loneliness why is every woman not doing it then? You can look up stats on causual sex for women. It results in an orgasm less than 20% of the time and it results in pain about 50% of the time. So yeah, a guy sticking his dick in me and not caring that I'm hurting or if I cum is me being used as a sex toy... Buying me a drink and putting on a clean shirt doesn't mean anything. If he was going to buy a pocket pussy it would cost more than my drink and he'd have to get d…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/17 02:10 PM
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It's literally the same thing as using a prostitute. So by your logic, men can be less lonely by buying a sex workers time? Then why don't all men do that? No I don't speak for all women but how many women do you see having casual sex with random men? Not a lot! So apparently most women agree with me that it doesn't cure loneliness.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/17 02:06 PM
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If you don't want to approach women as strangers, try making friends with them first. Join a gym, or a hobby club you're interested in. Meet women in a natural setting. Your options aren't bars or tinder. Those are actually, statistically, your least likely places to find a girlfriend. Bonding over a mutual experience or interest will help you a lot more. AND you know if you join a bowling league or whatever that women are there to socialize!
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/17 02:02 PM
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So? What about all the fields women dominate? Child care, nursing, education, accountants, social work, etc?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/17 02:00 PM
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No it was the biggest protest... that's not debatable because it's a fact. You can look at the # of people and #s are bigger or smaller... Okay well you're not a feminist so I don't expect you to believe men and women should have equal rights and responsibilities and be equal in society.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/17 01:56 PM
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I never said they did? But sexism is a "real problem". Rape is a "real problem", being forced to stop going to school because you got your period is a "real problem", being held to different standards as your male peers is a "real problem".
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/17 01:55 PM
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Ugh focus. I'm not saying I am this mega babe or whatever. I'm saying MOST attractive women like 95%+ never ever have a guy offer them exotic private jet rides and expensive cars. Unless they really really seek out that type of guy. Do you agree? I mean.. you can't disagree! That's just NOT reality! Jeez I didn't know this was so controversial. Of course men don't do that to every attractive women! There aren't enough desperate rich men to do that and fund every babe! And if that was true, why d…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/17 01:52 PM
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Does having some random guy fuck you make you any less lonely? Nope. You're literally a sex toy to him. You could be a sock and have as much value to him. I would argue it would actually increase your isolated feelings to fuck a guy like that. That's like saying if men don't want to be lonely they can always hire a prostitute.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/17 01:48 PM
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Wait, what are you talking about? I'm arguing that most women, even attractive ones, do not get exceptional gifts or favors from men. Especially not without basically prostitution like with sugar babies/sugar daddies. I would say 95% of women 7+ will not ever get these offers without actively seeking out a sugar daddy.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/17 06:58 AM
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Both those comments are on the same sub 😑 I'm not "stalking you". We both frequent this sub. But you said 7s were "third bucket" and couldn't get men to give them gifts and things?? You've changed your story like 4 times already 😂 it started out "all women get jet rides and cars" then "all attractive women, at least an 8" then "well you have to find the right guy, you have to try to gold dig" and now I guess you're allowing 7s again??? Just set some rules and stick with them so we can debate!
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/17 06:48 AM
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I mean... the Women's March was the largest protest in American history. Larger than any civil rights protest in the 60s and 70s. Feminism is pretty much impossible to ignore now. You have pop stars like T Swift and Beyoncé singing about it, holly wood royalty like Emma Watson giving speeches and being vocal, Michelle Obama obviously has a huge platform and used it... I think at this point it's just impossible to ignore. Women are equals and need to be treated as such.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/17 06:43 AM
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I thought your roommate and lots of your friends were 10s? You JUST told me in another comment about allllll these babes you knew who got private jet trips to exotic places and 70k cars. Now you're saying they are 1 in 1000 and your only experience with them is a friend of a friend? Something isn't adding up.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/17 06:40 AM
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You know what, this is my fault. I should have expected you to just get salty and call me ugly when you lost the argument. It really was my fault for falling into that trap, I'm sorry I gave you that opportunity. I should have just made you logically realize how completely impossible it would be for every hot woman to get private jet rides to exotic places and 70k cars. There's literally not enough desperate rich guys for that!
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/17 06:38 AM
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Have I ever been offered private jet rides to exotic places and 70k cars? No. Have you? And more importantly, was it because he expected you to fuck him or because he genuinely just felt you deserved it for being attractive?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/17 06:35 AM
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Please remove my image... so people won't know how full of shit you are? 😂 dude I know I'm attractive. I'm not bragging, I'm trying to make a point! Life is not like that AT ALL for attractive women unless you really search for it. Like, make a profile on a sugar baby site, because you won't even meet guys like in real life type of search for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/17 06:29 AM
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No... you said feminists think opening doors is a political issue and they get upset about that. That is not true. You have shown absolutely 0 evidence to show that. Now men thinking women can't/shouldn't open their own doors? Yes that is an example of sexism and yes that is something feminists are upset about. Of course we would be! If men and women should be equal (as feminists believe) then women can/should open her own doors. So yeah, if I dated a guy who was like "no no stand there by the d…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/17 06:25 AM
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Okay now you're REALLY changing the goal posts. Attractive women can exploit men? Or attractive women are given gifts and favors just for being attractive, even when they are not actively trying to gold dig? Because yes, I agree I COULD become a sugar baby and "exploit" men... but that's not what you originally said at all. Here's a pic of me I've posted before just so you'll stfu about me being ugly. http://imgur.com/qugE2Db
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/17 06:22 AM
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Is chivalry sexist? Yes. Doing things for women because you think they can't is sexist. Is opening a door on its own sexist? No. In our society today, pretty much anyone opens doors for anyone. Now who's being intentionally dishonest?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/17 06:12 AM
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That's prostitution though... that's completely different. Those girls went out looking for that. They are not particularly attractive, they simply marketed themselves as hookers. That is not a common experience of attractive women. Again, these women had to actively seek that out and it has nothing to do with how hot they are. This is clearly transactional! This is literally "I will have sex with you for $x". This is not "I'm so hot boys will buy me shit and do shit for me just because I'm hot"…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/17 06:11 AM
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Okay well I am also telling male redditors to find their female friends on Facebook and see if this appears to be their life. My estimation: you're completely full of shit and everyone can prove it for themselves in 30seconds.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/17 06:02 AM
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Yeah he's completely full of shit. I mean you can do a simple experiment: find a real life female friend of yours on fb. Look at her pictures. Does she go on trips in private jets to international locations? Does she drive luxury cars and wear designer clothes? Does she do all of this with a seemingly older boyfriend or is the money mysterious? Probably not 😐. But seriously, just go creep on some of your real life female friends to see how completely full of shit this guy is.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/17 06:01 AM
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Alright women! If this matches your experience, please comment on this post! I am an attractive women (well like a 7) and my friends are pretty attractive and this is not our lives at all nor have I ever heard of this. So let's see if you're completely making all of this up and see whose experience most women's match with more: mine or yours. Ladies?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/17 05:57 AM
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Both of those statements are true.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/17 05:54 AM
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I feel the same way about women's sex drive! Men act like they are the only ones with a sex drive and that women don't want to have sex just as much as they do... I have literally read a comment saying most women didn't masturbate 😑 if there is a pulse there will be masturbation happening, regardless of the genitals it is done to.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/17 05:52 AM
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Go by what you actually see in your own life. A lot of stories on here and red pill are completely made up, so don't put a lot of stock in them.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/17 05:49 AM
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Get whatever they want? So like... nice cars, paid for apartments, CEO jobs, etc? Or like... a free drink every other month?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/17 05:39 AM
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Yes this is a problem in feminism. We tend to be young, UMC white women. And that obviously excludes a LOT of women and it's sad that old women, black women, poor women, etc don't feel like they have a voice in feminism and there are parts of feminism that try to address this problem. It's just that the type of women who tend to be feminists are educated, have the time to care, and are in a position to be heard by their peers.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/17 05:37 AM
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But you are the only one saying it's a political issue. Not feminists. Again, Emma Watson has given dozens and dozens of speeches about feminism and empowering women and rape cultures and all of that... has she ever once given the example of holding a door open being sexist? I mean seriously, explain it to me. How is it sexist? As a woman, I can hold a door open for a man too. And I do! If anyone of either gender is behind me I hold the door, who doesn't? It's just polite, it's not a gender thin…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/17 05:28 AM
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I'm just saying, that's not a real thing feminists get upset about... that a joke people say about feminists, ya know? I can't imagine Michelle Obama or Emma Watson getting upset about a guy holding the door open 😂 maybe if he smacked their ass after, but that's about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/17 05:10 AM
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Wait what? Women have an unending supply of men to do them favors and give them attention and validation?? Well as an attractive early 20s woman, this does not happen for me so I can't imagine how hot the woman would have to be to get this sort of response from men... So no, most women do not have a life like this. The average woman is just as lonely as the guy. Having an unending list of guys trying to fuck you is not the same thing. Because after the first compliment or drink that you don't su…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/17 05:04 AM
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Feminists don't get upset about men holding the door open either? Jesus Christ, where do you get this info haha. Do you really think The Women's March, the largest demonstration in USA history, was about too many men holding doors open..? "Traditional" women would be even more annoyed by a drunk frat boy trying to ONS her!
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/17 05:01 AM
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I think when that happens, the human race will cease to exist. When everyone can get the perfect relationship programmed from a computer, why would anyone bother actually dating anymore? I think there's a futurama episode about this...
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/17 04:57 AM
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I think women do empathize with men... can you elaborate what you mean? Does "empathize" mean "have sex with"?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/17 04:56 AM
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You could say the same thing about .1% of women not showing up for their jobs though... And women don't pay taxes to subsidize all those guys who don't pay for their kids? Hmmm
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/17 04:47 AM
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I mean... you can talk to people if you want to, but also respect other people not wanting to talk to every single person in the bar. 99% if the time when I go to a bar, I'm just trying to hang out with my friends. It's the same as if I went to dinner or something. Just because bars are social doesn't mean every person wants to socialize with every other person in the bar.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/17 04:17 AM
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The jump is that feminism is somehow responsible for this. Maybe women simply don't want to get hit on by men all the time??? This isn't new, this isn't thanks to feminism, and this doesn't just apply to "ugly" men.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/17 03:55 AM
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Dude that's just not true. Brock Turner went to Stanford and was on their swim team set to go to the Olympics. He was fit, attractive, rich... and yet when he sexually assaulted a woman, she still pressed charges! Women don't like being cat called or harassed no matter how hot the guy is. And if he was attractive, he probably wouldn't have to stoop to cat calling to try to get attention anyway...
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/17 03:30 AM
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Okay well the solution is to find women who ARE open to talking to you. They are out there, some women even have a fetish for black men. I'm sure you know that... The solution is NOT to force yourself on them against your will because you're desperate. That IS harassment and it's not going to get you laid anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/17 03:27 AM
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I mean... that's fine, you can approach or not approach I don't really care. But saying "feminists tell ugly men it's sexual harassment to talk to a woman ever" is just plain wrong. Feminists don't say that at all, they don't give a flying fuck about your relationship status as long as it's all consensual.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/17 12:46 AM
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If you're talking to women and getting whispers that you're "sexually harassing" them, you're talking to women very very wrong. It's fine to talk to women! Just make sure they actually want to talk to you... watch their body language, if they walk away don't chase them down, don't call them names if they don't want to give you their #, don't message them 10x in a row if they do, etc. Basically just treat them the same way you would treat a guy friend: RESPECTFULLY! It's not asking that much...
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/17 12:42 AM
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Sooo how does that back up your original statement of "feminist culture doesn't want ugly men to approach women"? All women who don't constantly want to be hit on are feminists?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/17 12:40 AM
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She complained about guy's hitting in her at the club? Great that's fine. Now how does that back up your original statement of "feminist culture tells us it's wrong to approach women if you're unattractive"? Was she a feminist? Did she say she hates when ugly guys hit on her at the club? Newsflash: sometimes girls go out to bars and don't want to talk to anyone they don't know. They just want to have fun and drink with their friends. That's not "feminist culture" keeping men down!
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/17 12:39 AM
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What feminist says this? Give me a name or an example because this simply isn't true. Feminism doesn't give a fuck about your dating life as long as you aren't trying to rape anyone or date a child.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/17 12:36 AM
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It took you TWO DAYS to respond to me. I'll respond when I get to my lap top so I can go through point by point, I'm currently on vacay. But honestly, bottom line is that diverse groups have been proven again and again to be more successful. So of course businesses and schools want to increase diversity; they want the best products or students to get the best return. Here's a stem example: A group of female and male programmers can create a video game that appeals to a wider variety of people th…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/17 09:16 PM
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I would point to evidence of oppression of women... like the amount of sexual harassment in the workplace, sexism in hiring, congress being less than 20% female despite the population being 51% female, the amount of rapes of women vs rapes of men, DV abuse of women vs DV of men, etc. So yeah, it wouldn't be hard to provide some evidence of oppression of women, even if it didn't convince you. So what is your evidence of women being more manipulative or lying more often? What is your response to t…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/17 04:20 PM
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I'm trolling by... asking you for any sort of evidence to refute the evidence I have provided? It's a debate sub bro. Debate or gtfo.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/17 03:54 PM
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Okay so please provide any sort of evidence for women being better deceivers or manipulators. I agree women are not as physically strong as men, but that doesn't mean they somehow became better manipulators... I think women tend to make better judgements than men and that is how we evolved without physical strength. So, men do cheat more than women. Remember when the Ashley Madison leak came out and it was like 99% men and 1% bots? Do you have ANY evidence to back that up at all? As a stem major…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/17 02:48 PM
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"If anyone actually hits a woman back the white knights will come beat you up" Your words, last line. I'm just curious that you think anyone punishing someone for violence is a white knight? I'm using the analogy of a child and an adult because women are, physiologically, weaker than men, even when they are the same size. And men tend to be about 25% larger than women (150lbsF vs 185lbsM averages). Sooo yeah. When you beat up someone much smaller and weaker than you you don't think you should be…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/17 02:26 PM
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He wasn't a celebrity.... well until he got off practically Scott free for violent assault.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/17 02:21 PM
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The justice system has a lot more sexist old white guys who wouldn't put a man in jail no matter how much evidence of assault. Remember when Brock Turner was caught assaulting an unconscious woman with a beer bottle (by 2 eyewitness) and got 3 months probation?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/17 01:00 PM
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You think it's "white knighting" for guys to defend you if you start hitting a woman? Is it also "white knighting" if a cop stops you from beating up a child?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/17 12:58 PM
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I don't think anyone would PREFER someone who slept around. Again, if we are being honest, the "hot virgin" trope is attractive for a reason. I don't think very many people think "more sex partners = more attractive to me" either. Well, maybe if you're into some cuckholding type of fetish? That's nice that you would be down for a threesome though! I would be willing to LTR a guy if he was down to do that :)
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/17 12:55 PM
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Okay so... what is your evidence for that? Why do you think that? Did you read my last sentence? What is yor argument for that?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/17 12:50 PM
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So she's either a gold digger or a whore right? And you're also saying you want herto be a good wife and mother? I'm just confused as to how she could possibly be a good wife (according to rp) with either of those 2 qualities.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/17 12:48 PM
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What is your magic number for "too many"? Let's be honest, everyone has a number. I try to be super sex positive but if my boyfriend said he has been with 100 women I dont think I could be attracted to him anymore... but! Context also matters! If it was like mostly in a certain phase of his life or something that would be different.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/17 05:29 AM
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You can't be a good wife if you only married your husband for his money... I'm pretty sure even in red pill land a "good wife" still has to care more for her husband than just his paycheck (even if she lets him live). Gold diggers aren't good wives in anyone's book.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/17 04:46 AM
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So you want your daughter to be a gold digger and a whore? Hmmm that doesn't seem to fit into the red pill idea of what is "feminine" does it?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/17 03:41 AM
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You're not going to be well educated + diverse enough to know 3 languages AND think Trump is a "badass". Those things are contradictory.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/17 03:40 AM
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The type of person who is attracted to trp is a certain type of person, you can't deny that. 95% of men irl do not even know about trp or any PUA tips under any names. So the question is: would you want your daughter dating the type of guy who posts on and reads the red pill sub.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/17 03:38 AM
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Why do you think men are honorable and women lie so much? Men are not taught to be any better than women! Everyone knows how to lie as soon as they know how to talk. If you ask a 2 year old if they picked up their toy they will LIE even if you never taught them to! It's human nature! Why do you think women lie more than men? What facts do you have to back that up at all? Did you know men cheat more than women? Isn't that a measurable form of deceit that we can see men do more often than women?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/17 03:14 AM
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Mental illnesses ARE more present in men! Up to 4x more depending on the illness! (Schizophrenia) Yeah 70% were abused, glad you admitted something for once. So now you realize that men commit much more violence against women than women could ever hope to commit against men, right? Jk I'm sure you'll come up with some other excuse why it's all a conspiracy to make men look violent...
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/17 09:21 PM
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Hoollly shit read the rest of the fucking paper. It goes on the say that murder women commit is almost always in self defense against attempted murder. Yeah way to pick and choose which parts fit your narrative and ignore the truth completely.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/17 05:58 PM
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When were they ever equal? Please provide me the year because I know for a fact everything you just wrote is 100% equal. Oh ps. Men and women can both make false accusations against each other. Rape is incredibly hard to prove and he might get probation for a few months. If you really wanted to get revenge for a false accusation, plant some weed on them and send them to jail for years. It's a lot easier and they will actually get jail time!
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/17 05:07 PM
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No they don't. Which tests do they do without the consent of the parent? Not only that, you don't even have to go to to the hospital at all if you don't want to! Go to a birthing center, get a duala (basically a midwife with a degree), or even do it at home by yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/17 03:10 PM
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Haha that's true, it definitely depends on what "type of girl" you are and what influences you. I'm the youngest of 3 girls so I had access to makeup from a young age.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/17 12:17 PM
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Men are MUCH more likely to kill their partners than women. The #1 cause of death of female homicide victims is being killed by their SO or ex SO.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/17 12:07 PM
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With point 1, where are you getting that arbitrary length of time? 1 year to learn perfect makeup? No, like ages 15-21. And if you're just downright ugly, make up isn't hiding that. You can also ruin your face with makeup by using the wrong products, causing acne which leads to scarring. As for your point 3, that's exactly the point... an ugly woman can work hard her whole life and still be held back in her professional career because she's ugly. Beautiful women get a leg up just for being attra…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/17 11:52 AM
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I really don't know the rules on consent for that stuff. I'm not sure if you need 1 or both parents. But if you only need 1, then I'm sure dads have the same rights to give consent for piercings as moms do.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/17 02:02 AM
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I'm not arguing we shouldn't offer paternity tests! If the parents want it, they can request it! But you literally cannot make it MANDATORY. Do you understand? You can't tell parents "you can't take the baby home until you do a paternity test".
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/17 01:44 AM
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You would still need the parents permission. You need the parents permission to give the standard litany of vaccines and tests already + you need a sample from dad to compare to. There's no way you could just sneak the test in. The dads could choose not to look at the results? Then why waste the money in doing the test.... Look, you cannot say "you MUST HAVE this test done to taken your baby home" because that goes against bodily autonomy. So no, you cannot make paternity testing mandatory.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/17 01:00 AM
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Of course abortions only save money if they are done, they also on cost money if they are done... duh. And yeah no shit you can't force single parents to get an abortion? Wtf? That's fine, you can choose to get it done but you can't make it mandatory. The government doesn't get to say "you cannot leave the hospital until you get a paternity test". For one thing, it would violate bodily autonomy. You can refuse treatment and walk out of the hospital at any time, so the parents would just refuse t…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/17 07:56 PM
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No? That's not sexual assault -_- but someone who does commit sexual assault (grabbing your genitals or breasts or butt while you walk by for instance) should be reported to the police, investigated by a judge (so in the example of someone grabbing your dick at a bar the judge might see any other complaints, talk to eye witnesses) and then a convict and sentence based on the crime. All feminists want is for sexual assault and rape to be treated as any other crime. Take reports seriously (test ra…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/17 07:53 PM
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Yep. Same with rape. Brock Turner got 3 months probation and some rapists get 10 years in prison. There are different degrees of crime, I agree. So in this case, the crime should be investigated and the court can hear all the evidence and decided wha the punishment will be. Thats how every other crime works, why would rape be any different?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/17 06:56 PM
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Just like how we don't charge someone convicted of stealing a piece of gum and someone convicted of stealing a car with the same punishment. Just like how we don't charge someone who was violently raped at gunpoint anally and vaginally different than we charge someone who raped an unconscious girl.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/17 06:55 PM
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So there's different degrees of murder but you think rape is binary? There's no room for error on a guys part or an honest mistake? There are different degrees of rape, sexual assault, aggravated sexual assault, assault with a deadly weapon, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/17 06:53 PM
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What if a drunk person gets behind the wheel and kills someone? Is that not being an irresponsible drunk? Youre always responsible for committing a crime, even if youre drunk. You think a big drunk guy at a bar is gonna get in a fight and jump a girl just as likely as a guy. I think a mugger is more likely to mug a small woman than a big man, yeah. How many fights have you seen at bars/clubs? Who's the victim more likely to be? A man or woman? A WOMAN! Without a doubt I have seen more women vict…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/17 06:52 PM
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Uh no... They committed different crimes.... Roof committed premeditated murder of 9 people based on race. The driver did not premeditate the murder, and it was only of 1 person. The driver should get a similar sentence to other people charged with Manslaughter. Just like a rapist should get charged with his crime and get a sentence similar to others charged with his same crime.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/17 06:45 PM
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If there are no defensive marks, then prove rape. Go ahead and try it. You have to have corroborating evidence. Without such evidence you do not have a case. Easy to prove. The judge just says "did you get consent to have sex with this person?" and the guy says "well, she was unconcious but she still let me" and the judge says "cool, thats rape. You did not get consent, thanks for admitting it". Thats the thing. Most rapists admit they did not get consent. Just like with Brock Turner, they are n…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/17 06:43 PM
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Men absolutely can NOT get drunk whenever they want. That is ridiculous thinking. My cousin went to Tijuana with a friend, got blackout drunk and woke up hours later in a pool of his blood with broken ribs missing his shoes, watch and wallet. And was the guy encouraged to make a report? Or was he told not to get drunk again, making a report could ruin the theifs life, he shouldn't report it, etc etc? Probably not. Stop thinking all men are fucking supermen. That's a horrible way to think WTF. Wh…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/17 06:38 PM
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And what does that even mean really? A girl can never get wasted because if she does she might get raped? Fuck that, men can get drunk whenever they want and not have to worry about being raped, women should have the same freedom. If a man raped a drunk af girl, that guy should go to prison because he can't control himself. That girl did nothing wrong and should not be ever told to "drink less so it doesn't happen again". That's BS, no one should ever live their lives out of fear of being raped.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/17 06:26 PM
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It doesn't matter what the driver was trying to do. He still gets convicted and thrown in jail. You can't turn back time and stop this girl from being raped. You can only convict the rapist. You can't stop being from crossing the street, you can only take the dangerous driver off the road forever.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/17 06:24 PM
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Let's be honest, you don't get women with the red pill. If it worked even a little, everyone would do it. If I knew I could be disrespectful to women and still get to fuck them, of course I would! Every guy would! So the fact that 99% of men have never even heard of the red pill and 90% of men get laid at least once a year... it obviously isn't needed. And conversely, the red pill is FULL of men who are unsuccessful with women! So these unsuccessful guys go to a forum to bitch about women and gi…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/17 06:22 PM
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He was also a great and accomplished politician... I think that might have mattered just a little bit more than his body building records... But I'm just pointing out your entire post is completely wrong. Those aren't the definitions of toxic masculinity and toxic femininity.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/17 06:18 PM
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That's not how the law works -_- if your wallet gets stolen, the court doesn't say "well why wasn't it chained to your pants? You didn't protect yourself evough so we will go easy on the criminal". Fuck no, it does not matter what the victim does in any other crime. Why would it matter with rape? If the victim isn't doing anything illegal, the criminal should be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/17 06:17 PM
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But fighting back isn't the standard for rape like you are arguing. The original comment that you're arguing from said that if there wasn't bruises or self defense marks, you can't prove rape. That's ignorant af, we don't make any other crime fight back to prove it was a real crime. You can only consent and withdrawal consent while an act is going on. So for instance, if you consent to a surgery and get the surgery done, and then wake up withdrawal consent you are withdrawing consent to future s…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/17 05:57 PM
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Abortions save money though? I'd much rather spend $600 for a girl to get an abortion than 20k every year to support her kid on welfare. Mandatory paternity testing should not be mandatory. The government doesn't get any say in if I need a pay test. What if I know the kid isn't mine anyway? What if I know it is like 95%+ of kids? You don't need the government forcing you to do a test.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/17 05:52 PM
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You can't do anything on the baby without the parents consent. If you're doing paternity testing, the only recognized parent at the time would be the mom. So yeah, you can't legally do mandatory paternity testing, mom needs to consent first. Secondly, I don't want the government making anything mandatory. If I know the kid is mine like 95%+ of kids are, I don't want unnecessary costs + testing for dad.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/17 05:50 PM
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It completely depends. Was the girl just buzzed while the guy was full on blacked out? Who initiated? What level of drunk were each person? And most importantly: what do the people say? If neither one claim it was rape, then it probably wasn't... The most important thing you can do is trust and believe in their accounts of what happened.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/17 05:45 PM
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That is not what toxic masculinity or toxic femininity mean... Toxic masculinity isn't being raised with too much femininity. It's being raised with only 1 form of masculinity, the Arnold Schwartzenager type of masculinity. So for instance, their parents did not allow them to cry or talk about their feelings and the kid grows up being emotionally stunted and violent.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/17 05:39 PM
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Well according to the law he is a rapist. Either partner can withdrawal consent at any time, and it is the partners responsibility to ensure they have coherent consent from the other party for each new sex act. If a someone says they did not want to have sex and you can prove they did have sex, that is rape. So yes, like every crime, accusation + investigation = conviction. Why would you need evidence of fighting back to make it rape? You wouldn't. Just like you don't need evidence of someone fi…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/17 05:23 PM
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Yup and she did nothing wrong. She was not doing any illegal activity like crossing the street with headphones in. The guy is 100% in the wrong because he is the only one who did something illegal. So no, his charges would not be changed by he victims actions.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/17 05:22 PM
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Why not? We do for every other crime. Someone accuses someone of something, there's an investigation, then punishment. A woman can't make a rape accusation unless she can collect her own evidence?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/17 01:11 PM
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What do you mean? Of course we can go on words. Those are called "eye witness accounts" and "victim testimonies". Yeah your job when getting raped is not to die. If you think not struggle or fighting back will help you survive, you do that. It's still rape even if the victim didn't fight back.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/17 09:17 AM
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That being said, charging a guy for making what still seems like me to have been an honest mistake is pretty shitty. Except it wasn't an honest mistake! How do you mistakenly have sex with someone while they are sleeping??? Youre totally missing the point. Victims SHOULD NOT EVER be told things they could have done to prevent a mugging or assault or any other crime. They already blame themselves. Our job as society is to prosecute their perpetrator and make sure they get justice, not scrutinize …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/17 09:13 AM
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How is me not locking my locker not MY action tho? What crime would you be guilty of? HE stole, not you. Its 100% fine to not lock all your shit constantly. Its 100% illegal to steal shit. That means the crime is 0% your fault and 100% his. The point isn't that the thief will get caught and charged. The point is why give the thief that opportunity? But its not illegal... You still did nothing wrong. I agree, always lock our locker! But I recognize that realistically, there might be a day when yo…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/17 08:27 AM
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He was forcing her by not giving her a choice. When did she have the opportunity to turn down sex? She was unconscious. When did she have the opportunity to say "no"? Not until it was too late and he was already penetrating her. That is legally rape. Where do you live where it's not?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/17 08:18 AM
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Dude no. If you leave your gym locker open and someone steals your shit, they still get charged with theft. Just like this guy should still be charged with rape. YOU are responsible for YOUR ACTIONS. Other people are not responsible for defending themselves against you.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/17 08:15 AM
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You don't have to fight back for it to be rape. Would you say the same thing to a victim of robbery? "Oh you were mugged? Well where's your bruises to prove it?"
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/17 08:07 AM
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He didn't "read a situation a wrong way" any more than someone stealing money from you is misreading the situation. You can't fuck an unconscious person by mistake. She did not feign interest while unconscious. She even says he knew she was asleep. What responsibility did she have? Do you have a responsibility to communicate to a robber you don't want to be mugged? Can he claim later that he "read the situation wrong" by taking your wallet while you were asleep? Hell no, it's your responsibility…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/17 08:04 AM
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No no, that's not what she's getting. If he's projecting his male fantasy of wanting to wake up being raped, she can project her female fantasy of wanting to get gangabanged. Why is it any different? Look, if someone doesn't want to fuck, they should NOT be forced to. She was. She was forced to fuck this guy because he waited until she went to sleep to fuck her and she couldn't defend herself. That. Is. Rape.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/17 08:01 AM
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If you drive a car drunk and you kill someone you still get charged with manslaughter. Intentions don't mean shit, actions do. Did he rape her? Yes. Did he intend to? Probably not, which is why we should be taught more comprehensive info about consent in sex ed! But he did still rape her. Just because he is ignorant of the law doesn't mean it's not rape.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/17 07:56 AM
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Being gang banged is most women's fantasy. So by your logic, a man should be ecstatic if he wakes up with a bunch of dicks in his face right??
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/17 07:51 AM
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I'm not even reading all of that shit because it's really simple. Did she give him consent to have sex with her while she was unconscious? No. She woke up to him having sex with her. Obviously, you can't give consent while unconscious. So when did he get consent? Consent doesn't allow 24 hrs before expiration, you can withdraw it at any time. It is your responsibility to get consent before having sex. If you don't do that, you're way too irresponsible to be having sex and could easily be charged…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/17 07:50 AM
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But this isn't about her "not liking the breakfast" aka sex. It's about the fact that he stole the breakfast from her while she was sleeping. I agree, sex= responsibility. You have a responsibility to get consent from your partner. Just like you are not responsible for getting robbed or murdered or any other crime, the victim is not responsible for the rapist actions.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/17 07:18 AM
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Yeah, technically. But at the same time, how does that analogy work with this situation? What is his equivalent of "rape" that she did to him?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/17 07:13 AM
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Yeah, or like a new act of sex. Just like if you let someone borrow money, they still have to ask each time they borrow money. Not take it from your wallet while you're sleeping.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/17 06:36 AM
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What is your side of what happened?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/17 05:41 AM
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Penetrating an unconscious woman who did not get consent in any way shape or form previously is rape.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/17 05:31 AM
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Then how does it work?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/17 05:29 AM
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Explain what is wrong with my analogy.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/17 04:00 AM
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How so? If you let your friend borrow money once, are they entitled to take it whenever they want? What if you just gave him a $1, is he allowed to take it out of your wallet while you're sleeping? Even if it doesn't do any harm, it's still a huge violation of privacy.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/17 03:54 AM
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Hmm well, like I've said, 96% of custody cases are decided outside of court, so that does mean that most families are at least happy enough to live with it. I think it's still going to be hard on everyone and no where near perfect. She still has to care for their kid... that's the thing, usually moms still get stuck with the majority of the child care, so yeah I mean there's going to need to be financial overlap. When the kid lives with mom, mom has to get a 2 bedroom apartment. How much of that…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/17 03:52 AM
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I'm not saying men want to rape all the time... but in this case he did rape someone. He penetrated an unconscious person without their consent. That is legally rape.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/17 03:32 AM
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I think that speaks to the rape culture OP was talking about. In this situation, she was penetrated without her consent. That is legally rape. But did she go to the police? Did she even get pissed at him immediately? No, she was wondering what a lot of people in this thread have said: how was it her fault? Should she have woken up earlier? Not slept in the same bed at all? Taken martial arts since she was 5? Furthermore, he probably didn't mean it maliciously. He probably genuinely did not reali…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/17 03:31 AM
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To an accurate end? If your SO hits you, call them abusive. If someone rapes you, call it rape.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/17 02:44 AM
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Sexuality is weird, don't overthink it and don't give a flying fuck about what anyone says. Fuck who you want, life is short and you're only young once. Everyone will have an opinion on when is the right age to start having sex, what is the right # of partners before marriage, even what type of guy you should be attracted to. You're the only one whose opinion matters, so just do what feels right for you. I spent way too much time between 14-19 worrying about how often I masturbated, thinking I w…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/17 02:43 AM
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I agree, you have to get consent for each new sex act. Sleep has nothing to do with it.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/17 02:36 AM
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If you commit a crime, you should be labeled a criminal. He didn't accidentally penetrate a sleeping woman, he knew what he was doing was without her consent since she was literally unconscious.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/17 02:34 AM
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Did he get consent to have sex with her? No, so that is rape.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/17 02:30 AM
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She might not have known it was rape at the time. A lot of people aren't educated on what is rape and what is consensual. So women leave feeling like they did something to deserve it. That's why it's so important to teach about what crosses the line and how to get consent to our teens and college kids.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/17 02:29 AM
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It definitely is rape. Just because he got consent for 1 sex act, does not mean he had consent for all sex acts in the future.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/17 02:27 AM
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It's good to label things correctly and call people out on their shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/17 02:26 AM
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Consenting to sex once doesn't mean you consent to it every time...
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/17 02:24 AM
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How do you "accidentally" have sex with someone while they are sleeping? If I mug you and apologize after, I still mugged you. Apologizing after you rape or assault someone doesn't change anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/17 02:22 AM
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Yeah they need to take the kid 50% of the time and pay 50% of the costs.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/17 01:33 AM
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How do schools benefit in having less qualified but more diverse students? They aren't less qualified. Lets say you are the head of a magazine company and you are trying to reach out to a new demographic of black people. Who is more qualified for that position: a black man who grew up in that culture? Or a white woman with similar GPA and experience? Probably the black guy... even if the white girl had an extracurricular sport or slight better GPA, the black guy would still be more qualified for…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/17 10:33 PM
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They aren't being paid to baby sit their own kids. They are receiving their fair share of child support. It needs to be split 50/50, do you agree with that? So if one parent is slacking and not doing their share by taking the kid 50% of the time, they need to compensate for that somehow to complete their share of 50%.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/17 10:09 PM
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Yes! You split the cost based on child care. If parent X takes care of the kid 90% of the time, they only pay 10% of the costs. Does that make sense? Because it wouldn't be fair for them to do 90% of the work and pay 50% of the costs. Currently it is determined by income... which I think is dumb because a lot of blue collar workers will work cash paying jobs and claim no income to get out of child support. But the point of it is to obviously keep dad from going bankrupt if he can't afford it, an…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/17 09:43 PM
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-_- you're not paying her rent, you're paying your half of your kids rent while he lives with her.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/17 09:20 PM
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Even if the kid doesn't live with you, you STILL have to pay for half its rent and other shit! It's still YOUR KID. A parent is financially responsible for housing their kid until 18. But I do agree with you. If you can't afford a kid, don't have one. That goes for both parents.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/17 08:31 PM
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Dude, children need space. Space costs money. Both parents are responsible for that cost, not just the one who lives with the kid. The kid doesn't need his own bedroom, but he needs some sort of space, so does the parent.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/17 08:11 PM
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The kid is going to cost more rent... a 2 bedroom is more expensive than a 1 bedroom. More sq footage = more $. Both parents should pay to house the kid...
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/17 07:59 PM
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It's like you said, whoever does most of the child care should get most of the money. If they are the ones paying for the kid to live with them and stuff, then the other spouse should be paying them in child support. If the kid is with parent X 10% of the time then parent X pays 90%. Parent Y shouldn't have to have the kid 90% of the time and pay 90% of the costs.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/17 07:37 PM
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I agree with you! But I don't see how there would be an income disparity if dads paid their share of child support? There would be less income disparity if that happened.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/17 06:49 PM
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This entire conversation has been about how custody isnt 50/50. Remember? Divorce makes you sacrifice time and money. Your kid doesn't want to move houses every other week, you're not going to have 50/50. Hence child support....
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/17 06:16 PM
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What are you even talking about. Schools can still benefit from having people of different races or genders. Getting together different groups who have different perspectives can make their students more well rounded and successful -which is the entire goal of the school. The idea you're missing is that it benefits the school/company/students/consumers/whoever. It's not "just hiring Asian women just because" it's "hiring Asian women because their perspective will be more beneficial to us".
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/17 06:14 PM
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Why would she pay dads rent if the kid doesn't live there... that's not child support. I'm just saying, usually child support doesn't cover their half, if they even pay it at all. Women are not making money off of a divorce or their kid at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/17 05:42 PM
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AA is not the opposite of equality 🙄 you're ignorant af. Different perspectives offer different things. So if a company says "we want to hire Asian woman so we can get that perspective and reach that market" and then they pass down a message to their Hiring Person saying "weight Asian women more" and they do. That's. Not. Discrimination. Its just like if someone says "we want someone who lived in Asian to give us that perspective on that culture". That's a completely reasonable desire to have in…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/17 05:40 PM
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I don't really know what you mean by "fair" in this case. If it works out best for the parents and especially the child, then I think it's fair even if it's not 50/50.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/17 05:36 PM
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I agree... both parents should be responsible for half of the kids financial responsibility. So if the kid lives with mom full time, dad needs to contribute to the rent of that place. Mom should not be the only one paying for housing. If mom is the one feeding the kid 90% of the time dad needs to pay for some groceries. If mom is driving the kid around dad needs to pay for some gas. If mom has to miss work because their kid is sick dad needs to cover some of her costs. Mom should not be a free b…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/17 05:34 PM
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That link just takes me to the thread. Which comment did I not respond to? Also, this is a debate thread... it's kind of weird that you're harassing me to respond to you. Others can respond, its a big debate. If your comment was too stupid to warrant my time then suck it up.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/17 05:30 PM
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Yeah and getting to spend less time with your kids is a consequence of divorce too... so I guess I'm not sure what you're arguing?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/17 05:27 PM
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What? I responded...
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/17 05:22 PM
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Most divorces aren't from women having affairs... and anyway I'm answering your post. You think women aren't financially hurt in a divorce? LOL. I'm explaining to you how their wealth drops more than men and they rarely get alimony. And child support is him paying for his own kid. When you get a divorce, both parents are still responsible for the kid. So no... she's not "getting paid to be a parent" in any sense at all. She's actually losing a lot of $.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/17 04:34 PM
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I don't think you can be low status if you have a respectable job + are a happy person + hobbies you enjoy. What would be low status about them?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/17 04:29 PM
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What's up? I have proven my point... 50% of breakups are initiated by men, 50% by women. What is your proof that women initiate 70% of divorces, not just the paperwork?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/17 04:22 PM
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Very few divorces get alimony, like it's literally in the single digit %. Divorced moms are much more likely to live below the poverty line and stay impoverished 3x longer than divorced men. Sooo yeah, it sucks, divorce is expensive.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/17 04:21 PM
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Yeah well as OP said, there doesn't seem to actually be any discrepancy when you look at the stats. This is basically what I think happens: mom is the primary caregiver, which means she has built her work schedule around the kids, knows how to cook all their favorite foods, what homework they struggle in, etc. Dads generally do 1/2 or less the childcare mom does. And they also tend to work less flexible jobs. So when they get a divorce, those roles are already set in place. I am not going to be …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/17 03:49 PM
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http://imgur.com/8bkywOB Wasn't me! But honestly your posts don't contribute anything to the discussion. They are ridiculous. You find 1 stat, build some illogical case off of it, and parrot it without accepting any other explanation.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/17 03:07 PM
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Feminism is not a hive mind. No feminist is going to 100% agree with everyone else. There is a wide spectrum of what you believe in when you're a Christian, but all Christians believe in the main points. There are a wide variety of Republicans, but as long as you believe in the main ideas you're still a republican. Same thing for feminists or any other group. The Duluth model is not a main idea.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/17 03:00 PM
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Every case should be looked at individually as to what is best for the child. The court should recognize who was the primary caregiver during marriage, what is in the child's best interest/wishes if old enough, and what are the parents parenting styles and track records. There shouldn't be madantory anything. If mom is a drug addict she shouldn't get mandatory custody. If dad is a convicted felon he shouldn't get mandatory custody. Welcome to feminism.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/17 02:52 PM
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Yeah it clearly says a convicted rapist gets 50/50 custody split, at least until further court dates. Moms can literally be required to bring their child up to the jail for visitation....
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/17 02:50 PM
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I have been a feminist for years and I hadn't even heard of the Duluth model until this sub. It's really not a tenet of feminism or anything.... it's 1 idea that affects abusers and their victims. It's not a core tenet.. You can still be a feminist and not support the Duluth model. Most feminists probably don't even know what it is. The main point of feminism is equality for both sexes.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/17 02:49 PM
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I don't think that's true, how the hell do you make any money off of a divorce? What is your source?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/17 02:47 PM
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Women fear much more than that. They lose half of their shit in a divorce. Women are much more likely than men to be impoverished after a divorce and stay in poverty for longer. Remember, filling the paperwork isn't the same as ending the marriage. Women tend to do the secretarial work in a family, ie make doctors appointments, keep track of immunization records, etc. So when it comes to starting the physical paperwork of a divorce, of course women will fill that role more often. But the marriag…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/17 02:04 PM
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he court STARTS from a presumption of 50/50 custody and then adjusts that in either direction for the wellbeing of the child based on a number of factors Yes, so that means going back to court, spending lots of $, dragging the kid through more shit, allllll the while the kid is having 50/50 custody with his mothers rapist until a new custody arrangement happens. They would absolutely NOT give custody to a convicted rapist or a felon with no time for his child. Then how did this convicted rapist …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/17 02:01 PM
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our entire ideology is based around women being oppressed in the past and you're shrieking because I brought up the Tender Years Doctrine. Not shrieking at all. And our ideology is based around women still not having political, social, or economic equality. Men do have equal custody rights. In establishing a parenting plan and time-sharing schedule, the court shall begin with the premise that a minor child should spend approximately equal amounts of time with each parent So no, the bill does NOT…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/17 01:45 PM
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Hmmmm Well lets compare the definition of egalitarian and feminism. egaltarian- relating to or believing in the principle that all people are equal and deserve equal rights and opportunities Okay, so lets break it down. "all people are equal", is that a feminist idea? Yes. "deserve equal rights and opportuniites" that sounds very similar to feminisms "social, political, and economic equality". So where do you see a major difference in feminism and equaltarianism? Yesterday you were agreeing with…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/17 01:44 PM
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I asked for a strict definition. The one you used is a vague catch-all that really describes egalitarianism, something feminists hate. I gave you literally the Merriam Webster definition of feminism... How much more "strict" do you want me to be? Egaltarianism is a synonym of feminism... It just a term that hasn't been around very long and doesn't have any actual formed groups so most people use the term "feminism" for recognition. How can both a trans-exclusionary radical feminist and a member …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/17 01:33 PM
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Dude, the Tender Years was enacted in 1873. Are you really bringing up that shit from 150 years ago? And that wasn't even something feminists were involved in at all. Wow youre soooo ignorant. That bill tied alimony to child custody, and mandated equal time be spent with both parents. So what if a parent works more hours? Or is a convicted felon? Or the 16 year old kid just likes one parent more than the other? The new statute would give judges a formula to use in deciding alimony payments in Fl…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/17 01:24 PM
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Uhh except feminist has a definition... but I'm glad you think its synonymous with "good person"! Here is the Merriam Webster definition: feminist- someone who believes the political, social, and economic equality of the sexes. Who is a feminist? Off the top of my head, Gloria Stienam, Beyonce, Micheal Obama, Barack Obama, Oprah, Ruth Bader Ginsburg, Emma Watson, Angelina Jolie, Patrick Stewart, Daniel Craig, Barbra Walters, Taylor Swift.... Who isn't a feminist? Uhh.. Donald Trump, Alex Jones..…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/17 01:14 PM
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You just said that this stat was accurate "for all forms of custody"... and then didn't give any stats about other forms? Alright well I'll wait! Whenever you get the time is fine.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/17 12:58 PM
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HELL NO. Are you serious? You know feminists were the ones who pushed for women to go into the workforce and for men to become more caretakers right??? That's literally a huge feminist tenet. I think you're thinking of red pill? They are the ones who claim men don't ever like child care, women always do, and that gender roles are rigid. Feminists are the ones that say "whatever your genitals, whatever job you want to do, you can do it".
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/17 12:57 PM
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Women aren't claiming men don't care about their kids? What? Both parents want what is best for their kids. If during the marriage, dad works 60hrs a week and only sees the kids during dinner while mom works parttime and picks the kids up from school at 2 to take them to every single soccer practice and then go home to fix dinner and check their homework.... it's going to work out better for everyone if mom gets primary custody. Dad doesn't have to cut his hours down to leave work at 2 to pick u…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/17 12:47 PM
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Can you disprove the statement when fathers ask for custody, they receive it at the same rates at mothers Like... you say "oh feminists lie" but then you don't actually prove that this is a lie. Can you quote me some stats or something? It's straightforward, it should be easy to disprove if it's not true.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/17 12:44 PM
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This is such an easy comment to hit out of the water. Moms aren't in emotional and financial ruin after a divorce? Dads aren't seeking custody because it's too hard for them? Okay then they obviously don't care about their kids that much... if mom is the one that cares enough to go to court, then she can have the kids. Fathers don't fight for their kids because they "know" they will get a raw deal? This post literally shows that they won't -_- when fathers seek custody, they receive it at the sa…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/17 12:42 PM
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No Reddit gold needed! Have a good job! A good salary, respectable position, will make you feel awesome and valued. Be happy. Do whatever to make yourself happy and it will flow into other parts of your life and draw people around you. Find hobbies. It doesn't matter if you're into Star Trek, just find something that you enjoy. It will help with social skills + give you common interests with people That's it! Every guy is different so everyone's idea of a 10 is different. But this a pretty basic…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/17 12:37 PM
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You want a national feminist organization to comment on redditors who say sexist things? Wut.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/17 03:21 AM
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Feminists do! Wtf, I call people out for their sexist comments all the time and get downvoted to hell. You don't hang out with/talk to any feminists so you don't seem them doing that shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/17 02:06 AM
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Dude wtf. Feminists didn't "decide" to stop with the FBI. Feminists worked on this case, got a conviction and the FBI still didn't change their definition. That's not feminisms fault. You're reaching.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/17 11:53 PM
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So you're not going to admit that feminists have made at least some head way? Everything won't change immediately, but it's something.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/17 11:17 PM
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But I just gave you an example of it being used to convict a female rapist of oral sex....
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/17 11:08 PM
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So it's all feminists fault everything wasn't changed immediately? That's ridiculous. We made good steps!
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/17 10:22 PM
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The feminist definition is even more broad than that! It includes women forcing oral sex on men as well, see my link :)
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/17 09:19 PM
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Feminists want to legalize prostitution. That means it will be legal to sell and buy sex. For both genders! Statins are extremely cheap -__- Its just an anti cholesterol med, I would say 20-30% of the population is on them, and the parent has been out for a long time. The pharmaceutical company is not making anything off of that prescription. Again, I don't know why pharmaceutical companies aren't researching whatever you want, but this isn't a gender issue. If pharm companies weren't researchin…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/17 09:16 PM
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The 2 women who introduced the bill were feminists. When you hear about things that are probably feminist-y, look up who came up with the idea! Feminists are kind of double fucked. When they do good things, like make abortion more accessible, the headlines just read "abortion made cheaper by this law" and don't give feminist credit. And on the flip side, a fire alarm was pulled while a male speaker was speaking and what was the headline? "Feminists pull fire alarm on male speaker", and then you …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/17 09:03 PM
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What is the egalitarian definition?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/17 08:34 PM
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Do you agree with the feminist stance that it should? That rape should be more inclusive than just penetration?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/17 07:16 PM
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I don't know laws about Sweden, sorry. You are NOT getting ANY other benefits by hiring females over males. I completely disagree. Men and women offer different things. As I said in another comment, male teachers get a lot of affirmative action benefits because schools see how it is beneficial it is to have male role models and a male perspective in the school. And again, don't ignore what it all started with. School. In school that's exactly how it works. You get benefits just for your race/gen…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/17 06:59 PM
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I provided a link in another comment on this same thread. A woman had charges of rape brought against her for giving a man a blow job "by threat of force". She didn't even need a gun.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/17 06:52 PM
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Considering feminists want to help women get more money for sex from men, why don't they want men to get more money from sex from women? Feminists don't want to "help women get more money for sex from men". Feminists don't really care about dating in general... If you want to hire a prostitute, do it, if you want a a traditional relationship, do it. As long as everything is consensual, everyone is above age, theres no abuse going on... date/fuck whoever you want. Look dude. If a pharmacutical co…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/17 05:34 PM
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Okay. What do you think feminisms agenda really is? If we aren't fighting for equality, why are we using that as our cover?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/17 05:12 PM
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How is it discrimination...?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/17 05:10 PM
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What do you think that is?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/17 04:51 PM
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Wanting equality for everyone regardless of sexual orientation, race, or gender is dishonest?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/17 04:46 PM
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I know 😂 I read that I was like "wtfff is everyone on trp a virgin?" That's now how sexuality works!
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/17 04:41 PM
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Luckily AA doesn't work that way at all :) there's no requirements for gender or race. AA works by recognizing how other perspectives could help their organization. It is driven by the market. If I own a newspaper and I say "wow it would really help our sales if I hire more women. They can write for our female readers and increase viewership!" Note that i am not saying "I MUST hire 50% of my staff to be female". I am not setting requirements, I am simply recognizing the benefits. Just like if so…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/17 04:34 PM
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Uhh that's not the fault of the Duluth model or feminists -_- as a feminist, I am fully aware of the stigmas on men and women. I know that men are going to be assumed to be the aggressor. We should train cops to do the same thing as feminists: question gender and racial stereotypes. Women aren't always the victim, men aren't always the perpetrator. But you can't blame that stereotype on feminists. Men have been assumed to be more violent since uhh forever?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/17 04:31 PM
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According to Wikipedia it is the most effective model at describing DV. So how does that hurt men? It says "critics argue the Duluth model say it fails to address the underlying emotional causes of abuse". I agree, that's bad, but no model is complete. It's a model for a reason.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/17 04:22 PM
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So congress is completely controlled by 1 man? A bill being accepted or rejected is not in any way indicative of congress as a whole? Or the constituents they represent? 😑how do you think government works.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/17 04:19 PM
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How do they actively harm men...?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/17 04:16 PM
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I think people think feminists "hate men" because when you lift up women, men perceive it as a threat. Just like when civil rights leaders received pushback for trying to end social racism. Martin Luther King didn't hate white people of course, he just wanted blacks to be held to the same standards. That's all feminists want, equality. Push back against social change is just apart of the game, people don't like to change their ways of thinking. Like when women were allowed to go into the workfor…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/17 04:13 PM
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As a feminist very active in the community, I have never even heard of the Duluth model. Feminists speak at college campuses, we don't pull fire alarms? Is that a figure of speech or..? So basically, you're a feminist? You just call yourself a different name? It just makes me sad when people have such ignorant pre conceived notions of feminism like "feminists hate men". We work so hard for men! We work so hard for equality! And it's frustrating when people perpetuate negative stereotypes, so now…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/17 03:55 PM
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I'm so confused. You can see who wrote and sponsored bills and who worked against it. You can look up the 2 women who wrote the bill that got passed in the House and the guy who was the main proponent of it. What is your defense? How can you say "oh it's just 1 man", no??? Congress is 80% men! It's a lot more than just 1 man, and those men are elected meaning they should represent their constituents. How are you seriously saying it's just "one man" who opposed this??
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/17 03:48 PM
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Yes dude, those people campaigning for better sex ed in schools are almost exclusively feminists! You seem to like everything feminists actually do, you just don't like the name?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/17 03:42 PM
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I don't know or care what the FBI definition is. Thank god for feminism, right? What's important is that rapists are getting convicted and victims are getting validated.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/17 03:41 PM
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I have never said men should "help women not get raped". All they have to do is not rape. Specific aging biomarkers? What? So you want research $ to be spent somehow researching a way to draw blood, see that he guy could possibly have a bio marker for prostate cancer, and then take a pill to cure it? I don't even understand... we don't need biomarkers for things you can test for. A bio maker is used to determine if you're at a genetic risk for an illness, an exam can tell you if you actually hav…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/17 03:36 PM
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Congress is 80% male. If they wanted to pass a federal law, they could have easily done it if it had male support.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/17 03:31 PM
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What are you taaalkkking about. Why would a woman (who can get Chad dick whenever she wants, right?) give her commitment, sex, money, and resources to an "underperforming man" (as you put it). Seriously, walk me through it. It sounds like she's giving up quite a lot for a wedding day. And if marriage is so important to women, why are less women getting married than ever? Why are women waiting until they are older to get married? Again, actions speak louder than words. If women really wanted to g…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/17 03:30 PM
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I agree, so isn't it great that feminism is doing so much to decrease single parent households?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/17 03:27 PM
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https://mobile.nytimes.com/2016/04/30/us/oklahoma-court-ruling-in-rape-case-spurs-calls-to-change-state-laws.html Here ya go! In OK, a 16 year old boy was raped. The male judge said they did not want to bring a conviction of "rape" to the table because they did not want to "misuse the language". Kristen Houser, a female, defended him and the definition change in general by saying that every state is different and the patchwork of laws is inconsistent and fails to protect people.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/17 03:26 PM
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Okay, well actions speak louder than words. And the actions of women continuing to marry men who make less $ speaks for itself.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/17 03:22 PM
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Well congress is 80% male so you can't say feminist didn't try, but it's hard to get progressive things passed sometimes. Unfortunately, it's actually men who are against expanding the definition of rape. They don't like the idea that oral sex could be rape, they think feminists are trying to put more men behind bars for rape, they don't realize how much it would help their own gender.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/17 03:21 PM
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That's simply not true at all. Where do you live? In the USA, a woman can be charged with rape for giving a guy a blowjob by threat of force. https://www.google.com/amp/www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/04/12/woman-charged-rape-male-taxi-driver/amp/
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/17 03:18 PM
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But then that's not "artificially" low. Like.. that's not going to change. If I said the housing market was artificially high, it implies the bubble will burst eventually. This isn't changing...
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/17 03:17 PM
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What? Find a woman to help a man get laid? Why the fuck would a feminist do that... how does that help improve gender equality? Feminists aren't here to help you date or do things for you that you can do yourself wtf Throwing money at the problem is not going to make it go away. The main reason men are more likely to die of chronic illnesses is simply because they do not go to the doctor. For instance, prostate cancer is extremely curable in the early stages, which is why it is recommended to ge…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/17 03:13 PM
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No, you can be legally convicted of rape even without penile to vaginal penetration. I know in the U.K. Feminists have campaigned to have the law changed there as well. Hopefully they can be successful soon! There's a lot of pushback against expanding the definition of rape.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/17 03:00 PM
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Thank god for feminism for providing women with access to birth and control and abortion! And for increasing sex ed in school so everyone knows how to use a condom and the risks of sex. Because that is how you cut down on single parent families, by making birth control cheap and accessible. Not by forcing a guy and girl to get married and then divorce in 3 years -_- that kid will still grow up single parented + have less $ because it was wasted on divorce lawyers and more disfunction because of …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/17 02:59 PM
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So you have talked to hundreds of thousands of women about this subject to get an accurate sample size and determine that all 3.5 billion women don't want to outearn their husbands? Hmm probably not, you don't speak for all women. If every guy could marry a hot, rich woman they would! Duh, those are great qualities. But that doesn't mean women who become doctors, lawyers, etc don't LOVE their jobs. They could have chosen to do something in child care, but they didn't. They wanted a different car…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/17 02:56 PM
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How is that "artificially" low? If people who would get divorced simply don't get married in the first place, that is a good thing. It saves $ for the court system and family, saves time, less kids from broken families, etc. These are all positive things from feminism.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/17 02:42 PM
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Divorce is at its lowest point in 30 years. And if there were "lots and lots of unhappy marriages" why wouldn't they get divorced? Again, your ideas simply do not line up with reality.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/17 02:36 PM
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Where are you getting that information? If women didn't want to be bread winners, why go through all the trouble of going to college, becoming doctors and lawyers, etc? Why not become a nanny and earn enough to get by by taking care of kids (since all women love that apparently) and then marry up? The # of women becoming bread winners has been increasing drastically since WW2. Why would we keep doing that and striving for more positions of power if we didn't like it?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/17 02:26 PM
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AA is supporting equality. Thinking it discourages equality is ignorant, that's like thinking that giving money to the homeless increases homelessness. Another way feminists support equality in schools is by AA programs for male teachers. By putting more men in positions of authority in schools, you give young boys male role models + add a male perspective to the conversation about how best to teach our kids, especially boys.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/17 02:24 PM
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Lol wut. You can support AA and ending unnecessary circumcision, allocating resources to DV victims, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/17 01:49 PM
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Dude that's not true at all. Divorce is at its lowest point in the last 30 years. It's awesome for women to be breadwinners, I'm not complaining! I hope we get that number up to 50%. The point in making is that reality so clearly does not line up with what trp says.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/17 01:48 PM
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A very basic idea of the red pill is that women always date up, want a man with $, will mooch off of a mans money, etc. How do you explain that in 40% of marriages women are bread winners? I've mentioned a lot of this stuff in other comments, but Time magazine did a whole issue a couple of months ago about marriage. They basically said men get tons of benefits from marriage, like living longer, getting more career benefits, better quality of life, etc. These are not outliers, this is the reality…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/17 01:34 PM
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I would tell you the same thing I would tell someone who believed Scientology "helped" them: "They are taking advantage of you. You're naive/ignorant and they are playing on that. Stop immersing yourself in a culture that teaches you to hate others, there's no way that's healthy. Get out, talk to some non-members, get a healthy perspective on things. You're in a cult, it's evident by the way they have their own terminology and repetitive ideas. Please try to logically think through their ideas a…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/17 01:09 PM
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They hate men so much they are constantly trying to make their lives better? 🤔 Remember when feminists campaigned (successfully) to change the definition of rape so that in a legal sense, women could actually be found guilty of raping men? Before, the definition of rape was strictly about penetrating someone, so women could literally not be found guilty of rape unless she penetrated him. Or when feminists wanted to join the draft and tried to get a bill passed just last year? It passed in the Ho…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/17 01:04 PM
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You test schools on the knowledge of their students... do you not know how schools work? You give them a standardized test at the end of the year, and depending on how the kids did as a whole the school receives a rating.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/17 12:53 PM
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That's a main point of red pill... that's literally what it's based on, all women being the same and wanting the same things.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/17 12:51 PM
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I am a feminist willing to be interviewed! I have nothing dishonorable to hide :) you could post it on trp so they see what a feminist is actually like (not a man hating troll, but someone who genuinely cares about their problems).
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/17 12:50 PM
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I think the argument is that it doesnt work. It is written mainly by a specific type of man who has failed with women and is bitter. So the "advice" isn't really advice, its misogynistic ideas that only end up hurting the guy more. I mean if it worked, everyone would do it.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/17 12:48 PM
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Poor hot introverted men :( those are the best kind
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/17 12:45 PM
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How so? Feminists have actively fought for a lot of these things.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/17 12:23 PM
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Nope, it's true lol. http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2010/11/25/who-spends-the-most-money.html You keep saying my shit is false and I just keep proving you wrong. The divorce rate is at its lowest point in 30 years... so yeah, yay feminism!
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/17 04:52 AM
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They are both accurate statements 🙄. You're not asking for more citation... you're asking me to include a separate statistic. This conversation is dumb, I'm just glad that now you now how many woman are actually carrying their husbands! Especially considering men spend 19% more money.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/17 03:47 AM
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Yeah that's terrible. Genital mutilation of either gender isn't a good thing. There are a lot of people, both male and female, who think it's a good thing. Afaik it's not a gendered issue. It's not something that a lot of men like and a lot of women hate or something. It seems to be something that progressives recognize as unnecessary and bad and conservative want to cling to out of tradition (which is why the red pill wouldn't want our tradition of male circumcision to change). It's not a male …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/17 03:37 AM
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Lol what? You're the only one pushing a narrative here. Both facts make women sound badass, so I don't mind using both. But it is still 100% accurate to say them both stand alone too. In 40% of marriages, women are the bread winners. That is a completely accurate statement. Because women can often support their families on 1 income, many are married to SAHDs. When dads work as well, women make up 30% of the breadwinners. Better? :)
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/17 03:30 AM
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Uhhh I don't think it's female perpetrators who are mutilating boys? Do you mean like individual female doctors or mothers? It is actually mostly done for religious/traditional reasons, I wrote a paper back in college all about the negatives of circumcision. So yeah, basically this post doesn't seem to be downboted much, but those are the 2 main reasons I can see that it would be. But everything he wrote aligns with mainstream feminism, he should consider himself a feminist.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/17 03:23 AM
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No... it's only 30% in families where both parents work. In 40% of all marriages, women are the primary breadwinner.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/17 03:20 AM
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I'm not stupid at all, excuse you. Yes, red pillers will down vote him because this isn't their idea of men's rights. Their idea of men's rights has nothing to do with things like circumcision, it has to do with them complaining about women's high standards. And in general people might downvote him simply for it being a little... condescending? I mean, who isnt for providing DV victims resources? And stopping genital mutilation? And putting more male teachers in schools so all students get diffe…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/17 02:59 AM
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Wait what? How would this trigger feminists? This is everything feminists agree with... did you mean meninsts?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/17 02:36 AM
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Yes of course. All of these things sound great to me (blue pulled femnazi sjw).
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/17 02:35 AM
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Legalizing prostitution was actually the first idea that brought me into feminism! I 100% agree it should be legal, but I think you're over estimating the benefits. As you have said, it is legal in most (all?) of Europe and many other first world countries. It hasn't changed the way marriages and relationships work there. Prostitution is still not the common way of getting laid, LTR relationships are. Furthermore, the type of men who get angry from not getting sex from women are the type of men …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/17 01:38 AM
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Yup and even with 70% being dual income, women are still the primary caregivers in 40% of marriages... your caveat only makes my argument stronger.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/17 12:28 AM
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Telling my partner what is wrong and expecting them to react accordingly is a "female temper tantrum"? I don't think so. When I throw a temper tantrum you'll know... So you date women who don't offer you much so you can treat them as live in maids? Sounds unhealthy and extremely expensive. Just hire a weekly maid and a prostitute! It'll be cheaper than the therapy in 10 years. No, when I date a new guy we both start doing new things. That's the best part of someone new! They expose you to new th…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/17 09:05 PM
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Looks: overweight, poor hygiene, unkempt facial hair/sideburns, not doing anything with his hair (so bald is fine as long as he keeps it shaved). Basically if his beard isn't trimmed, hair isn't combed and styled, his teeth are yellow, and his clothes are ill fitting, he's probably lazy! Acts: this is difficult because every marriage is different. Some people do 50/50 house work and 50/50 bills, some couples do 100% housework for 1 person and 100% bills for the other. But I guess just doing your…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/17 08:30 PM
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I don't know what "frame" is. I communicate honestly with my partner and expect them to do the same. I don't throw temper tantrums, I explain why I am upset and I expect them to do the same. There's no "you bend to me/I bend to you" bullshit. You both compromise. You never addressed why you refuse to take care of yourself? Why you make your female partners do mundane tasks for you?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/17 08:14 PM
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if a woman is nagging to do the laundry, either her expectations are incorrect, or the system set up for her to do the laundry is inadequate. Omg are you serious? You don't know how to do your own laundry? I thought the stereotype of man children who had mommy cater to their every whim and couldn't even do their own laundry was... well just a stereotype. Just wondering, are you over 25? Have you always relied on women to do basic life tasks or were you ever self sufficient at any point? No... I …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/17 07:48 PM
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No... trust me, as woman, if I'm telling you to do that laundry don't try to figure out the underlying mysterious cause of me asking you to do the laundry... just do the damn laundry! Women are more direct than men. We have better social skills and can articulate exactly what we want. Just listen to us, I promise your life will be a lot better! That's all nagging wives want, just listen to them 💙
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/17 07:34 PM
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Parenting requires presence? Oh okay, so people who work over sees, like soldiers, should have their parental rights taken away? Because they aren't real parents right? There's no way we have technology to communicate to our kids and spouses if we aren't right next to them 😑 Oh, and the rights don't mean shit? Uh huh... did you know most "kidnapped" children in America are taken out of the legal jurisdiction by 1 of their own parents? Getting charged with kidnapping is a felony with some teeth b…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/17 07:30 PM
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I mostly agree... but what do you mean "a masculine man deciphers what she means"? She's telling you what she wants, that's the point of nagging.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/17 07:24 PM
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Yes they do... legally, they still have parental rights.... she legally cannot move them out of the area without the court/dad agreeing, she can't even take them on trips without his consent. By your logic, does a mom who doesn't live with the kids have no say either?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/17 07:02 PM
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So, when mom takes the kids she a a kidnapper? What about when dad takes the kids on his weekend, is he a kidnapper then? Dads still get a huge say in how they are raised, even if they don't live together! Ugh, you're so misguided. Do you know how only 4% of custody cases are decided by the court? In 96% of cases, mom and dad willingly agree, completely outside of courts and lawyers, who will take the kids what days. Not everything is perfect, some days mom won't see the kids and some days dad w…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/17 04:50 PM
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Oh, how am I engaging in female shaming tactics? I never said I was female...
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/17 04:46 PM
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How did I "attempt female shaming"? I just told you it was a fucked up thing to say. I never said anything about you being a woman, I didn't even realize you were.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/17 04:38 PM
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I'm just trying to appeal to your sense of humanity... why are you referring to women as "holes"? Especially women who haven't done anything illegal/wrong/etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/17 04:27 PM
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You have your cause and effect completely backwards... the STATE pays teachers (unless it's a private school, which is uncommon for USA). If you want better teachers, increase the pay. That will attract more people to apply and you will get the best of the brightest. Instead of becoming, for instance, a nurse because that makes more $, teaching will become competitive with those careers. Also, are you seriously referring to women as "holes"? That's extremely disrespectful, no one refers to men a…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/17 04:20 PM
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Let's pay our teachers more, get more studious teachers (not the 25 year olds who have been in college for 6 years and just wanted to graduate), and not have this problem anymore!
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/17 03:57 PM
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It's one of the worst things that can happen to anyone. Divorce is hard, it's literally one of the top 3 most stressful life events, along with death of a family member and career change. But please stop saying men "lose their children". They don't... unless their kid dies. Parents have to split custody, so of course both parents will see the kid less. Dads generally work more, so they don't have the opportunity to have the kid except on weekends or holidays. Both parents have to sacrifice time …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/17 03:37 PM
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They lose the house because the house costs $ and they can't afford it anymore... so yeah, it's still financial. If mom did the SAHM thing and was the primary caretaker, then of course she will still be the primary caretaker after a divorce too, depending on the age of the kids. What do you want dad to do? Start leaving work at 2pm everyday to pick up the kids now? No, whoever took care of the kids in the marriage will most likely keep the same roles. I agree, men who don't understand that marri…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/17 03:16 PM
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But if he cheats and she gets a divorce and they split finances 50/50 terpers will cry "divorce rape" because she supposedly didn't contribute enough to the marriage.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/17 02:57 PM
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Actually, according to Time magazine, the more housework men do the less likely they are to get divorced. No woman is resenting her husband for doing the damn laundry ha
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/17 02:54 PM
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The monkey dance? Yeah paying attention to your wife is asking too much
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/17 02:52 PM
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There's no caveat though? Out of 100% of marriages, 40% of them have female bread winners... you're trying to somehow twist it around. It doesn't matter if the family has 2 incomes or 1 as long as it's supported.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/17 02:00 PM
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No, I'm not. Not all families need two incomes... 40% of all marriages have a female breadwinner. 30% of all marriages where both parents work have a female bread winner. But ultimately, 40% of marriages have a female bread winner. And that's not counting all of the single parent families which are most female headed!
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/17 12:46 PM
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So... it's still 40% of all marriages. Not all dads work, because some women make enough $ to support their entire family on 1 income.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/17 12:15 PM
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Oh nope, different study. This is all married women who are bread winners.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/17 10:50 AM
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Wait what. How do women abuse men? You're saying because there are less male DV shelters women must abuse men? No.... that logic doesn't make sense... How do dads have more power being taken from them? Moms usually end up being the ones who have to take the kid full time and end up paying a lot more for the kid. But both parents are still required to pay for their kid to the best of their ability. It is both parents responsibility.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/17 10:28 AM
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No it doesn't! It is 40% of married women. 0 single moms. https://www.google.com/amp/s/fivethirtyeight.com/datalab/38-percent-of-women-earn-more-than-their-husbands/amp/
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/17 10:25 AM
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Yeah... just like men want women to devote their resources to his kids.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/17 02:28 AM
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No, again because "she" isn't taking my his resources. The kid is taking both of their resources. Neither one can legally allow the kid to starve. His money isn't going towards her, it's going towards his half of what he owes the kid, the kid just usually lives with the mom. Parents are not making money off child support unless they happened to get a professional athlete pregnant or something.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/17 02:09 AM
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Yeah it takes the power away from the man and makes them equal. Men used to cheat, abuse their wives, etc and there was nothing women could do. If they got a divorce they would be shunned from the community, lose their livelihood, and lose their kids. Now, both parents have to pay for their kids no matter what. So we are equal, not taking power from men.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/17 10:29 PM
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99% of women are not getting alimony. In fact, 40% of women earn more than their husbands. Furthermore, child support is for the child and it's usually not even half of the expenses! Women usually pay much more for the child than the man, simply because his payments are based on his income, not how much the child actually costs.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/17 10:07 PM
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Lol wut 😂 no men get less attractive as they age too! That's why you don't see young girls with old rich guys (well, unless they are multimillionaires or billionaires). Wow crazy, women care about age?? It's almost like women and men find the same things attractive....
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/17 09:23 AM
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As a feminist, I am 100% behind legalizing prostitution. It would dramatically cut down on sexual slavery and pimps, and make the whole business safer and regulated. However, that has already been done in places... and guess what? Women's "utility" remains the same. 99% of marriages in the western world are completely by choice, because both the man and the woman wanted to. It wasn't to get laid (I believe it's 4% are virgins by marriage), or anything else. It was because they genuinely love spe…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/17 05:02 AM
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Dude, that's like 0.1% of relationships. 40% of marriages have the wife as the bread winner for christs sake. No woman is giving her higher-priced commitment to a man for his non-commitment + money. That's not a usual thing at all, those are extremely exceptional cases when the men are multimillionaire or billionaires.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/17 04:35 AM
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Okay then don't use money. Give me an actual example in which the guy's commitment means more than the woman's.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/17 04:23 AM
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No that's not true at all. Again, have you ever heard of a relationship where s/he could cheat as long as they didn't spend $? No, that's ridiculous. And that's not commitment! Why would she give up her higher value commitment if he isn't giving her commitment? These relationships don't exist for a reason.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/17 04:11 AM
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The average, young professional male would prefer to be single if he knew he could have sex with random women as often as he wanted to. It's just that most guys can't pull it off. They don't have enough game to consistently score. The average guy? Yeah he can pretty consistently get sex... It might not be porn star sex with a model, but an average guy has a lot of wiggle room to go down if hes desperate. So they agree to enter a relationship, because that it is the only way they'll get some. An …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/17 04:09 AM
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Lol no its not. This is ridiculous, who the fuck cares about how much $ spent on an affair? If your partner cheats, the relationship is over. If by some miracle it isn't, hes going to have to beg and plead for her to take him back and swear that he will never ever do it again. I know of exactly 0 relationships that say "well you can cheat as long as you don't spend $". Thats not how it works bro.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/17 04:00 AM
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You wouldn't hear a guy saying "Jennifer Love Hewit isn't funny so she isn't attractive" Yeah you just hear them say stuff like "Jennifer Love Hewit is a feminist and thats gross and unnatractive". Wow, its almost like all people are different and have their own preferences. I do not speak for all women, I like my guys to be funny and intelligent but not every man or woman cares so much about that. At the same time, I wonder if you would reject Brad Pitt or Vin diesel if either of them came up t…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/17 03:59 AM
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It wouldn't make any difference to a woman either.... cheating is cheating and it means he's not committed. That means she doesn't have to be committed either. So they break up.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/17 03:32 AM
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I mean... regardless of if he spends money, cheating is almost always going to end the relationship, unless he swears up and down he will never do it again. That's what commitment is. That's why hers will always be worth more. She has wayyyy more sexual value, more potential partners, basically just more to turn down. Again, unless he is the only one committing and she can be free to pursue others.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/17 03:23 AM
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No..... her commitment will always be more. Unless he is a higher SMV than her, but 99% of the time people date equal SMV.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/17 03:10 AM
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No I was giving the example... some women like casual sex and some want relationships, some men like casual sex and some like relationships. It's not gender related. Most men desperate for sex aren't desperate for a ONS, they are desperate for someone to fuck them every day, even when they aren't looking or feeling their best. They want a committed relationship, just look at r/incels. It's not a gender thing. Women aren't more likely to want relationships, and men aren't more likely to have ONS.…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/17 03:09 AM
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So women's commitment will always be worth more. Unless it's one sided commitment, ie the guy is monogamous but the girl can do what she wants.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/17 03:06 AM
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Are you serious? No one thinks she looks better in the 90s with her real nose and bad haircuts. Vin diesel is not attractive. He's bald, has no personality as far as I know, he's not funny his face isn't cute... just no. Brad Pitts last straw was his World War Z movie. That greasy long hair at 45 killed his hot factor
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/17 03:05 AM
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But if a man gives a woman commitment, he usually wants commitment back. His commitment to not fuck other women doesn't mean much, at least not as much as hers. Because she has much more offers than her. Make sense? Her commitment is always going to be more than his because she is sacrificing more sexual partners than him by committing.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/17 03:02 AM
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Yeah pretty much! Women can do that much more than men, even when they are old. That's a cool way to think about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/17 02:39 AM
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Yeah and I think everyone would agree she has only gotten hotter. And she even says it's due to moisturizing and sunscreen! Two things men use much less than women!
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/17 02:35 AM
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What are you confused about? Obviously, a lot of women would rather have casual sex than tie themselves down to a boy. Just like a lot of guys are desperate for girlfriends. It's not a blanket gender thing
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/17 02:34 AM
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How are men the gate keepers of commitment? That doesn't make any sense. A woman can get sex much easier and with more men than a man, so her commitment to not have sex with others is worth much more than his. Furthermore, The quality of the commitment is determined by the quality of the guy... so for instance, a girl offering sex can get 100 offers, even if she's ugly. A man offering commitment can't get any offers unless he's a high quality guy. Because commitment goes both ways, and a girl wo…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/17 02:31 AM
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I don't think anyone would agree with you that Anniston is not hot... I think she's hotter than when she was younger, simply due to years of professional stylists + athletic trainers + professional treatments, etc. This is the universal opinion of her, that she has only gotten better with age. Brad Pitt has obviously gotten much worse. He was The Guy a decade ago, now he's not on any Top 100 lists or anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/17 01:58 AM
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Uh no, sex and relationships are completely different. Men always want sex, women definitely don't always want relationships. Men often want a relationship, just like women often want sex. Just be honest about what you want! It's not a gender thing, it's a personality thing. Some people like casual sex and some people prefer to not be single.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/17 12:58 AM
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Well you can look up statistics of how often women orgasm during ONS vs how often the sex is uncomfortable. Last time I looked I believe it was something like 20% have orgasms and 50% find it uncomfortable or painful. If a guy doesn't care about you, he's not going to do the necessary foreplay and oral it takes to get most women off. Edit: yep, only 22% of women claim an orgasm from ONS. https://www.google.com/amp/www.glamour.com/story/how-to-orgasm-from-one-night-stand/amp
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/17 08:03 PM
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Yes, I do not understand the analogy. Laymans terms?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/17 03:44 PM
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You lost me
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/17 03:33 PM
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Great, then look for a relationship not just sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/17 02:30 PM
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I'm not using it "as an example". Literally go on Grindr and experience how women live. You know how little you want to have sex with those men? That's how little women want to have sex with the men who just want to fuck them. It's not a gender thing, it an I-want-to-have-an-orgasm thing. If you just want to get your dick wet, you're not going to care about my pleasure. Sex like that is more likely to be painful than result in an orgasm.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/17 02:08 PM
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Why? Then you get the same experience as being a woman. Doesn't sound appealing to get sent dick pics and creepy pick up lines from guys who want to fuck you?? Isn't that the dream of men?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/17 01:16 PM
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Mashed potatoes and meatballs are fine, I would eat that! But I wouldn't eat mashed potatoes that's just trying to get eaten by anyone at all and doesn't even think of my as a hungry stomach that wants to be filled, but as his mashed potatoes that just want to be eaten. If that's too hard of an analogy to understand, let me explain. I don't want to fuck a guy who just wants to fuck anyone. I want to fuck a guy who will give an orgasm and care about what I like and want in sex. For instance, wome…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/17 01:14 PM
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A women's risk of producing a child with a disability at 35 is the same as a man producing a child with a disability at 40... thats not much of a difference. and I'm talking bad disabilities. Downs, schizophrenia, those kinds of things.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/17 01:07 PM
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Okay can someone explain this to me? I was always under the impression that women aged better than men, I thought that was a universal opinion. But trp insists women age worse? I'm sorry, but no 50 year old man is as hot as a 50 year old Jennifer Anniston. When you look a Hollywood, women look the same as they did 20-30 years ago because they can dye their hair, use wrinkle creams, etc. Men show their age much worse because they are less likely to dye out the greys and wear makeup to cover age s…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/17 12:53 PM
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What. I never said any of that... nothing you said applies to "everyone wants to be sexually attractive to their SO, and everyone wants to be sexually attracted to their SO". I'm sorry your beautiful girlfriend was terrible to you but that doesn't mean all pretty people are evil.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/17 12:48 PM
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Yes... and that's a good thing... we are now more educated about what makes a happy marriage and we have the means to achieve it. So it's not a "50/50 chance" anymore. It's in the single digits if you make simple responsible choices.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/17 03:27 PM
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Yeah because we don't have 18 year olds getting married at nearly the same rate! That is a good thing. That is the group that is getting divorced. If they were going to get divorced anyway, isn't it good that they don't get married in the first place?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/17 02:52 PM
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Marriage is not a "50/50 chance". If you get married after the age of 25, your risk of divorce is 16%. And there are other things that correlate with a successful marriage, like having known each other for 2+ years, doing premarital counseling, and being financially stable. Also, that's an outdated statistic. Divorce peaked in the 80s and has been declining for the last 30 years.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/17 02:34 PM
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Okay so you're not a body builder. So your argument that being a professional athlete makes the BMI chart inaccurate doesn't apply to you. So you're significantly overweight because the BMI chart is at least somewhat accurate for your average body type.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/17 12:23 PM
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No one on Reddit! Lol
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/17 12:21 PM
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This has nothing to do with beta bucks....... 😑 everyone, every single person, wants to be sexually attractive to their partner. Everyone wants a partner they are sexually attracted to. It is healthy to have sexual attraction in a relationship. It doesn't make you a better person to date someone you don't find attractive, it makes you an asshole for leading them on.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/17 12:21 PM
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But he's not a body builder.......
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/17 05:46 AM
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I mean... it's either your a professional body builder or your obese. Which is it? So you spend hours at the gym everyday and that is your full time job? Or... your obese. Plain and simple.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/17 05:46 AM
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What? I'm asking you a question...
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/17 02:40 AM
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So you wouldn't date an obese ugly woman? You don't feel sexual attraction related to physical beauty the same as women?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/17 02:36 AM
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Even a body builder wouldn't be in the "obese" category from muscles... maybe a little overweight, not obese. Sorry bro.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/17 02:35 AM
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So you would date an obese ugly woman and not think twice? Being sexually attracted to your partner is important in a healthy relationship. It's not naive to know what I need to be happy!
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/17 01:46 AM
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Yupp. Unless you're literally a professional athlete or body builder it's not going to throw off the chart. Trust me, the average American doesn't have to worry about that at all...
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/17 01:44 AM
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I am not saying looks are the first priority. I'm saying looks are important to everyone.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/17 10:56 PM
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I mean... just from a logical point of view, it doesn't make sense. Why would women not care about looks? Why would men assume that womens attraction is so different from than them? From a very objective standpoint, if she is an attractive woman she will attract more attractive men than average, why would she not objectively choose the more attractive guy? If they say "women don't care about looks" they are just ego stroking themselves. They are deluding themselves into thinking women out of the…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/17 09:32 PM
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Yes women usually end up being the more attractive partner, but I don't think that is evidence of women by caring about looks more. Remember that women supporting themselves is a new idea. So women didn't have as much wiggle room to marry whoever they found attractive like men did. Women usually moved from their parents house to their husbands, so they had less time to find a husband and more limited options. Men could go to college and not get married until much later, and they could marry whoe…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/17 08:53 PM
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That's fine, but average means middle of the road. Not a certain % past the bell curve. If you're below the 50th percentile you're below average. Women tend to age much better than men because women take care of themselves more. Women moisturize, wear sunscreen, eat salads, are less likely to work hard labor/outdoor jobs, are less likely to smoke and drink alcohol less frequently, etc etc etc. Women are also less likely to be overweight and hit their highest weight after 65, whereas men hit thei…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/17 07:05 PM
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That is a very overweight BMI... you can't say you "don't have an ounce of fat on you" when you're borderline obese
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/17 06:34 PM
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Yeah so if the guys are obese, their equals would be obese women... not sure why you're complaining that "all they get" is obese women, obese people date each other and hot people date each other.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/17 06:32 PM
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How the hell would 68% be "average"? Average is the 50% ers. If you're in the 68% you're well below average. When their youth "bottoms out"? What does that mean? Also, you know men age too right
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/17 06:28 PM
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No one ever said women think looks are "less important". Men and women are both visual creatures, our sexualities are exactly the same, why would women care less about looks than men??
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/17 05:28 PM
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Oh do you have a source for that? The only mental illness I know of that is more common in women is anorexia. I actually thought OCD and anxiety related mental illness would be more female driven than anything. Schizophrenia and Bipolar disorder are both much more common in men and can both be cluster B, right? It's been a minute since my mental health clinicals.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/17 12:31 AM
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Fun fact: chickens have been bred to have massive breasts to increase the white meat from the bird. As a result, they can no longer have sex anymore, the mechanics don't work. They only procreate in a lab!
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/17 12:24 AM
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Almost all mental health disorders are more prominent in men. It has to do with the X chromosome having a second X chromosome to back it up if either chromosome has a genetic problem. Since men have 2 different chromosomes, X and Y, and the Y tends to be more susceptible to mutations anyway, there isn't a second chromosome to help fill in the blanks if it's messed up.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/17 12:22 AM
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Or you could just make men more genetically attractive. That would solve both problems with one genetic mutation!
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/17 12:19 AM
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That doesn't work at all. You will never meet the guys you are actually attracted to if you don't make the first move.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/17 10:30 PM
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You said masculinity is "a quality that cannot be taken in a feminine or gender neutral context". All of the qualities you described can be feminine or gender neutral!
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/17 09:23 PM
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But... there are women with bulky muscles who go cliff diving.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/17 09:12 PM
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I think it's human nature... I think most men would be down for a FMF and most women would be down for a MFM. What do you think? Most people arr strictly monogamous?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/17 08:47 PM
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No you're completely wrong. It is married women who out-earn their husbands. https://www.google.com/amp/s/fivethirtyeight.com/datalab/38-percent-of-women-earn-more-than-their-husbands/amp/
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/17 06:34 PM
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Well this comment is poorly written, as evidenced by it being the lowest voted comment on this thread. It doesn't make sense at all and is very rambling/illogical. Hive mind means you're apart of a group that all thinks the same. I think the word you're looking for is stereotype, which is where everyone thinks something about a group. They sound similar but it's actually the opposite. Make sense? Fashion is about labels? Maybe name brand purse or shoes... but fast-fashion (the stuff that's popul…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/17 02:51 PM
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The biggest turn off is aggression. I dated a guy who get the worst road rage, it was terrible. Not being able to articulate and handle your problems with words just makes a man look like a child throwing a temper tantrum. It's petty, hints at being unintelligent, and is trashy, which are all unattractive traits by themselves as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/17 02:46 PM
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I think if they have a toxic view of masculinity they might have a problem. Like some guys think changing diapers isn't "masculine" lol. It's not feminine either, it's a job no one wants to do. Being masculine in our fathers and grandfathers time was about being in a war, supporting your family, and drinking a lot. So I think it will redefine our idea of "masculine" into a more healthy definition and will ultimately help our society and men in general. We are in the middle of this transition now…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/17 02:31 PM
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Do you feel the same about Men who want FMF threesomes?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/17 02:26 PM
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Most women are not making money out of their relationships... in fact it's the opposite, relationships costs a lot of money and time (less time for her to work = less money). If you have this idea that you have to pay women to be in a relationship with you, you are doing relationships very very wrong...
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/17 02:24 PM
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Most women would do MFM, don't kid yourself. So you think most women will cheat? I think it's more like it's human nature to want to have 2 guys/girls focused on your sexual pleasure. It might be human nature to cheat, but you can obviously reason through not doing that if you value your partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/17 02:21 PM
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I think I speak for everyone when I say... wut. Lol fashion proves that women have a hive mind and therefore are more likely to marry money? Think out your ideas clearly, provide a logical base to move from 1 idea to the next, and then provide an example or evidence for your idea. It will make your writing a lot easier to understand!
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/17 02:17 PM
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I think as long as the relationship couple is doing equal work, it won't be a problem. Like if mom is now bringing in the $, dads need to do the childcare. But I've heard stats that even when women are the bread winner they still do twice the child care of their husbands. So I think a lot of it is just re-learning our roles in the family that aren't defined by gender. It might take a generation or two, but we will figure it out!
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/17 02:14 PM
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I wouldn't say women achieve attractiveness through "diet and personal grooming", it's more like "spending a fuck ton of $ and time on make up and hair salons and styling and buying outfits that shape and flatter". Our society obviously doesn't allow men that much leeway, but most men (at least in my area in Texas) don't even shave regularly, or style their hair at all, or wear anything more than t shirts and sweats/basketball shorts in their free time. They don't maximize the potential they do …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/17 03:56 PM
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Then what did you mean when you said a high and low n count affects your personality traits? Now you're saying it doesn't? You just said it did 3 comments ago and that "anyone who thinks otherwise is sheltered".
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/17 03:05 PM
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So you agree that N count does not effect personality or character traits and that there is no way to tell someones N count by how they act? Because the way you said that a promiscuous woman and a low N count woman are "completely different" makes me think otherwise... But maybe I misunderstood.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/17 02:52 PM
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This is because despite all of the hogwash that modern women are so socially smart and have high emotional IQs, women are shit judges of people. They can't tell the difference between a guy acting attractive and nice and into them and a guy who wants to fuck them and is putting on an act. Youre assuming women are only fucking guys they want to marry. Thats not accurate at all. Most women do not care about N count and will fuck a guy for a lot of other reasons than "judged his character for 6 mon…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/17 02:49 PM
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Uh huh. So tell me, what do these two different girls look like? I am just curious because I am a girl and I know a lot of girls. I had a roommate who was a stripper and another one who was a virgin at 21. I can tell you, the virgin was a much bigger flirt than the stripper... Please, think of 2 women you know with differing N counts and describe their "completely different" personality traits to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/17 02:13 PM
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If that was true, you wouldn't need to know n count. You could tell who were the sluts and who were the good marriage partners by the way they acted. How could women hide their n count if it was reflected in their character traits?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/17 01:55 PM
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Eh. Let's say she doesn't have any LTRs, but is a serial monogamist with 8-10 partners/year. If she starts having sex at 18, that's 100 partners by the time she's 30. That's not unreasonable... but I guess most people do have a few LTRs under their belt by 30.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/17 01:54 PM
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Why did that scare you? Did it come from a place of insecurity/jealousy? I'm assuming she was the same person before telling you as after. She was probably 300 people in when you first met her and you couldn't even tell!
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/17 01:50 PM
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But you're assuming they have to be "two completely different people". They don't... Being a slut or a virgin does not affect your character or personality traits.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/17 01:49 PM
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It's interesting that out of allllll civilizations, that's the only one that chose men as the "beautiful" gender. Every other one chose women or at least parts of women... like India, where boobs are on everything.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/17 01:38 PM
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As a straight woman, I completely agree with you and OP.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/17 01:36 PM
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Hmmm I'm pretty sure women have always had to meet higher standards to be attractive. We have to wear makeup, do our hair, have nice well fitted clothes, be fit but not too fit, etc etc to be attractive. Men wake up and shower and go to the gym twice a week and are attractive. They don't have to do their hair or makeup or wear nice clothes to be considered attractive by society.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/17 01:26 PM
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If you never date around, how do you get into LTR? How would she ever meet you to date you? Furthermore, once she met you and started dating you, how long would you expect her to wait to have sex? You wouldn't want her doing short term monogamy, so I guess she would have to wait ~6 months to fuck you so she's knows you're going to stick around and not up her N count for no reason, right? I don't think most guys want an introverted prude who makes them wait that long for sex...
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/17 01:12 PM
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Lol wtf. If DNA has a say in how many partners you have, then it would be hereditary. As in, your N count would correlate with your parents N count and theirs would correlate with their parents... and if that was the case low N count blood lines would have gone extinct long ago. Your theory has no basis in reality or logic.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/17 04:32 PM
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Yes... when you list your standards as "literally all men want is for you to not be fat" but what you REALLY mean is: be young, thin, and attractive. Oh and it will help if you don't have any kids, have a job, and have decent social skills and no neck tattoos. So that puts your eligible dating pool down to about 10% of women... but you just forgot to mention those expectations because of course you want someone like that! do you not know what "literally" means? Or do you just not see the irony?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/17 04:00 PM
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I think it generally surprises men because they consistently under estimate women's sex drive.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/17 03:58 PM
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Age is a huge limiting factor that you are acting like it doesn't exist. So you're saying you would date a woman with no job, no education, a few kids, a terrible personality, some bad neck tattoos, etc?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/17 02:02 PM
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Dude. You need some fat to help your body regulate temperature, blood sugar, protect your organs and bones, etc. Obviously having too much fat is bad, but so is having too little. Hence why there is a BMI chart to show you what each person should weight relative to their height. 18 is literally considered medically unhealthy, it is indicative of having a health or mental problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/17 11:47 AM
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"These days"? Specifically asking for someone who is an unhealthy weight is a weird thing to want at any time... but you do you! Go pick up chicks at chemo wards
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/17 11:37 AM
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A BMI under 18 is literally considered medically underweight. So you want to date someone with an eating disorder or muscle atrophy problem or..? Cancer I guess?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/17 11:32 AM
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This is an explicit conversation about standards... and again, the comment I responded to said "literally just don't be fat". So obviously that is completely untrue if you won't date 50 year olds or whatever your other standards are.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/17 11:03 AM
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I agree! I'm not saying those requirements are unreasonable, I'm just saying be honest about them. Recognize that you're only looking at the top 10% of women. So it's not "women just need to be not fat", it's "women need abcdefg... and also not fat". Just be honest with yourself that you are genuinely only interested in a very small % of women.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/17 10:45 AM
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Then you're saying roughly only 10% of women meet your "baseline requirements" because that's what % of women are between 18-25 + BMI of <25 + no kids + good social skills + whatever personal requirements you have like no tattoos. Don't you see the irony in admitting what a small % of women you actually consider date-able on a thread about womens high expectations?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/17 10:25 AM
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I agree, it's not unreasonable to want a woman with a job or education either. But he said Also men's expectations is literally one thing: DO NOT BE FAT I think he (and men and general) should at least be honest about their expectations of women. They need to be skinny... and young and socially apt and not have any kids and blah blah blah. So it's not just "don't be fat".
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/17 09:56 AM
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I can say the same thing about muscles and height. I personally love a "scrawny" guy. Men don't work out for women, they work out for other men. Red pill are notoriously picky about age and BMI...
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/17 09:13 AM
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So you would date a 50 year old woman with no job, no education, and terrible personality as long as her BMI is under 25?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/17 08:55 AM
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😐 every published image of a woman is insanely photoshopped... every rp guy says they wouldn't date a woman older than ~25-30 or with a bmi higher than Taylor swifts... that limits your date able women down to much less than 20% of women. Sounds picky to me!
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/17 08:54 AM
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White privilege means that you are never held back because of your race. A black guy will be pulled over because he's black, that's because of his race. A white person will never have that problem. THAT is what white privilege is. It doesn't mean no black people have better lives than any white people.... -_-
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/17 03:36 PM
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Hmm well I can only speak for myself, but if I see a guy I want to talk to/dance with or whatever, I will make it happen. I just don't think it's as overt as shooting a "you up" text at 1 am. It's more like asking to go do something with a group of her friends.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/17 12:52 PM
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They do... it's usually not as overt as "hey come fuck me", women are much more subtle with their flirting than men.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/17 12:16 PM
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You honestly think the history of racism and sexism is "irrelevant to the conversation" of racism and sexism today? You honestly think that the fact that just 50 years ago blacks and women did not have the same rights as white men, does not effect the racism and sexism around today? You think people instantly changed their attitude overnight? OF COURSE the attitudes and laws of 50 years ago affect the attitudes of today! That's exactly why ugly peoples discrimination cannot even compare! They we…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/17 12:15 PM
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Please answer my questions. You went from arguing that being ugly is the same discrimination as being a woman or black, now you aren't even mention all of that. Either admit ugly people have nowhere near the same discrimination as blacks/women, or answer my questions.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/17 05:41 AM
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This is an article about a Cornell study which showed unattractive people receive longer sentences for the same crime. That is not the same thing as oppressing people for hundreds of years, to the point where they did not even have the right to vote. Women and black men were literally property to white men just 100 years ago. Those attitudes do not change overnight, there are people alive who lived through the civil rights movement! So PLEASE answer the question: What rights have ugly people eve…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/17 05:10 AM
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You are going to need to show me some sort of evidence for that. How can you say ugly people are discriminated against by getting longer prison sentences? I don't even see how you quantify ugliness to show a correlation with years sentenced. Exactly, racism is always going to exist. So how are we ever going to correct it? It's a complicated question, but one way is through affirmative action like programs. We see how much more disadvantaged black people are as a group, so when it comes to colleg…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/17 04:21 AM
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Attitudes don't change overnight. When did racism end? Was it when blacks got the right to vote? When we desegregated schools? When did we end racism? And when did we ever discriminate against ugly people? Congress is mostly ugly people, they have no history of discrimination.... please walk me through how we discriminate against ugly people.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/17 03:58 AM
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Women do not make up 54% of the electorate -_- discrimination against ugly people is nothing like racism or sexism. What are negative stereotypes about ugly people? What history of discrimination do ugly people? What defining characteristic do ugly people even have that unifies them? There's no clear cut "ugly". There is clear cut "black" and "female".
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/17 02:45 AM
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Hooowwww are you comparing a group who has never been discriminated against and had rights taken away, with a group who spent 99% of history oppressed?? And are still disproportionately under represented in positions of power, and over represented in positions of poverty? You cannot compare discrimination against ugly people with racism and sexism! That's ridiculous. Ugly people are the majority, there are ugly CEOs and congressmen. Ugliness is largely under your control, ugh there's just no com…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/17 02:10 AM
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Ideas don't go away in 50 years. You know that. There are people today who still believe women shouldn't be able to vote, or blacks are somehow inferior to whites. Ugly people do not have any sort of systemic oppression because they do not have any history of having their rights oppressed!
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/17 01:57 AM
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But you didn't name any rights they have ever had taken away by being ugly.... I can name you specific rights that women and black people have only gotten in the last 50 years, thanks to feminists and civil rights protesters. Thank god for them! What rights have ugly people had taken away from them?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/17 11:59 PM
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Uh no... there will be some non white people who have better lives than some white people. That doesn't mean all white people dont have white privilege -_- I don't think you know what privilege is...
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/17 11:12 PM
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How are ugly people oppressed? I can show you how blacks and women have been oppressed for almost the entirety of human history. Can you show me how ugly people are oppressed? Have ugly people ever not had the right to vote? Have they ever had rights denied because of their ugliness?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/17 11:11 PM
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??? Some women are attracted to dad bods! Just like some men are into bww. No one is pushing that on them, or forcing them to be into that body type. If Watson likes 6'5" rugby players that's fine, she's a classic babe that those guys would like so it works out. Everyone can be attracted to whoever they want, and everyone likes something a little different.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/17 11:09 PM
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No..? I'm not assuming white people will always be privileged.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/17 05:45 PM
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Yeah, there are traits all humans find attractive. Clear skin, being fit, full head of hair, etc. That doesn't mean women will be so honed on one certain trait that they will only fuck guys with those traits. Men of all shapes and sizes and personalities attract all different types of women.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/17 05:42 PM
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Okay whatever you say. Please respond to my comment, I really want to see how you defend comparing systemic racism/sexism with being ugly.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/17 02:43 PM
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They just aren't the goal. We are trying to create equality by elevating non privileged groups, so making white men the focus of the group would be like a hospital treating healthy people.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/17 02:42 PM
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But all women aren't attracted to the same thing. So one girls "Chad" might be a big muscle-y sports guy who drives a cool car and is in a frat. My version of a Chad would be the exact opposite of that. So that's why I don't think "Chad" exists, because he would be different for every lady.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/17 02:34 PM
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Do you think that taking away privilege is the same thing as "negatively effecting" men? No, it's not. You never should have had that privilege in the first place. That's like saying ending slavery was bad for white people. I mean... technically you're not wrong, it was a negative for white people, but it wasn't bringing them down below equality it was bringing black people up a step in equality. Same thing with women. Giving women the right to vote wasn't taking the vote away from men. Giving w…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/17 02:19 PM
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Alright we can argue about the wage gap for hours, but you can't deny it's real. It's systemic, we pay women less. We pay teachers and nurses (predominately female jobs) lower than any other first world country. We simply value women's work less, we can get away with paying women less. Secondly, We don't have any sort of paid maternity leave, we are also the only first world country in that regard. If a man and a woman who have the exact same job decide to have a child, the woman must (as in its…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/17 08:54 AM
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Lying about the wage gap & STEM achievement disparities to push quota initiatives which discriminate against men in education and the workplace. Can you give me specific examples of this? Who told what lies? No shortage of feminists actively protesting against the construction of battered centres/ other help for men as "Diverting funds from women who need it more". Again, please give me specific examples of this, I have never heard of this happening. Mainstream feminism isn't involved in any par…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/17 08:23 AM
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For the last 15-20 years modern feminism has consistently and successfully pursued policies which are inherently anti-man therefore feminism is anti-man. Like what? Wanting legalized abortion is "anti men"? Wanting women to have equality is anti men? One of the primary goals then of any men's movement is dismantling feminism Then thats men being anti women, not women being anti men...
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/17 07:43 AM
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You have to be trolling me. You're comparing systemic racism with being ugly or short? y point with the height is that you can create a oppression narrative with statistics for a variety of categories. Whites do much better than blacks statistically so blacks are oppressed. NOOO. That one stand alone statistic does not mean I am "creating a narrative of oppression". Black are and have been oppressed. Its not just that one statistic alone, its things like black sounding names on resumes not getti…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/17 06:35 AM
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How does being short make you less likely to be a CEO? Can you explain to me the path of discrimination like I have explained to you how women are discriminated in STEM? The discrimination of short men for CEO position be isn't clear to me. Unless you think all inequality = discrimination? Having scholarship opportunities doesn't undo the lifetime of gender discrimination. It's important, but at that point it's also a little too late to get interested in that career field. It's definitely a posi…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/17 05:30 AM
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A CEO being taller than the average person has to do with the average CEO being a white male -_- as opposed to a Hispanic female. Being short does not hinder you from being a CEO, being female/black/trans does hinder you from certain jobs. Does that make sense? That's why the logic isn't the same. You say women are incentivize to go into stem? Not at all. They have a lifetime of gender discrimination telling them they aren't good at math, they should pick a more feminine job, and all the problem…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/17 05:14 AM
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Height does not affect your CEO-ship. Being female, black, or openly gay/trans does effect you getting a job, especially in male dominated fields. Why would you need to offset the disadvantages of being short if it isn't a significant disadvantage? I'm not making any assumptions, you can hear all of these stories being told by women in STEM! Women are significantly disadvantaged to go into STEM fields, so they don't. It has nothing to do with "not being interested" and it's kind of ridiculous to…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/17 04:47 AM
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Because race, gender, and sexual orientation are things that tend to affect you all throughout life and have absolutely no bearing on how capable you are to do your job. Height in the NBA? There's a big difference in how you do your job. Why would women simply not be interested in STEM fields? That's the exact same logic they used to use about women not being allowed to go to college, "women like to stay in the kitchen and take care of their families, they don't want to have to work". Spoiler al…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/17 04:25 AM
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You could do hiring quotas, I wouldn't decrease standards though... but I think the problems are more systemic than that. For instance, women are not joining stem fields the way men are. One study found that when asked to rate their confidence after taking a math test, female students rated their confidence much lower than male students. The test scores for both men and women were the same, but women assumed they did worse than they actually did and men assumed they did better. So ending the sti…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/17 04:09 AM
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Not wanting fathers to use the kids to control their ex wives is "anti men"? TIL. No wonder you think feminists are anti men, you think anything that doesn't cater to men is anti men.... can't you realize how ironic that is?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/17 03:48 AM
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Whoops that actually should be economic, political, and social equality. Currently, women, racial minorities, and LGBTQ people are much more likely to live below the poverty line than straight white men. They are also much less likely to hold positions of power or have government representation. Socially, that list is too long to cover. Trump has removed protections that make it easier and more transparent for women to sue over sexual discrimination in the work place and he removed protections f…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/17 03:45 AM
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Oh my gosh 🙄 feminism is not anti men, we don't care about men! You are not the center of our movement! Stop trying to make it that way. We want economic and social equality for women, racial minorities, and LGBTQ people. When we want women to have equality it doesn't mean we want to take anything away from men. Not wanting men to be privileged is not the same thing as wanting men to be discriminated against. As a feminism very involved in the feminist community I have never even heard of the "r…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/17 06:02 PM
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Not even that but women are more likely to wear sunscreen, moisturizer, drink less, much less likely to smoke, etc etc. Women age better simply because they take care of themselves. You don't need a face lift to look young. A little bit of makeup can take years off of a woman, and obviously men don't have that option.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/17 11:58 AM
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I think you're the one "not getting it". Give 1 woman birth control, stop 10 babies. Give 1 man birth control, stop 1000 babies. Maybe we should encourage both parents to use birth control to stop people from having kids they can't afford?? Ground breaking stuff. It's almost like we already do that by making both parents pay as much as they can afford for their kids.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/17 11:57 AM
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First of all, you do it it both parents. Both parents have to raise the kid. Second of all, you do it to ALL parents. Not 50% of one gender, what the fuck? ALL parents of BOTH genders have to face the consequences and raise their kids. If you allow 1 dad to not do that, he can get 100 women pregnant. If you allow 1 woman to not pay for her kid, she can have like 10 kids max in her whole lifetime.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/17 04:12 AM
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Lol wtf. You're just being condescending because you realize how dumb you just sounded. Women don't control the birth rate, men do. You don't put on a bullet proof vest, you take the bullets out of the gun.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/17 03:53 AM
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What? No... I read it fine. Men can literally have hundreds of kids, women can have like 10 max. If men were strongly encouraged to use birth control (by having to pay for their kids) it would cut down on the birth rate much more than if women were encouraged to use birth control.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/17 03:42 AM
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You literally just said one man can impregnate hundreds of women. Then said women control the births? That doesn't make sense. Put 1 woman on birth control and stop maybe a handful of kids. Put 1 man on birth control and stop 100 kids.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/17 03:36 AM
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No charity covers all the costs of all the participants. Like not all breast cancer patients are funded by breast cancer charities, most still pay the majority o their own. So that means some kids would still starve to death. No charity will be able to cover the costs of 100% of the kids. And again, if 1 parent doesn't have to be responsible for the kid, they will keep having more kids. If they don't have to foot the bill, why would they ever wear a condom?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/17 03:07 AM
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But... women can also be doctors? I think women have more latitude. A woman can get a wide variety of physical enhancements done to help hide her aging, men don't have the same options and it's much less acceptable in society.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/17 02:55 AM
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What are you talking about? In every single first world country the government picks up the tab in the form of welfare. What private charities are you referring to?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/17 02:22 AM
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I think it has to do with maturity. Women tend to be ready to settle down and start playing house around 25 while men tend to take a few more years, ime.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/17 01:14 AM
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Damn you should tell this story on trp. They are convinced only male models get women's attention and women only want the top 20% of men.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/17 12:28 AM
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So if the person can't pay the child just starves to death?? Do you even live in a first world country?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/17 11:30 PM
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Unfortunately that's not how it works. The kid exists and costs money to feed clothe and house. Who is going to pay for that? Either dad is or welfare (aka every taxpayer) is going to. If men never have to pay for their kids, they will keep having unprotected sex. BOTH parents need to be held financially accountable as much as they can afford to be.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/17 04:49 PM
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Not legally. Moms can't deny rights to dads, dads can't refuse to pay for their kid. Remember, the money is to support the kid not the mom. I don't want to pay for the kid via welfare, so that means both mom and dad have to.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/17 03:20 PM
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I really doubt that's true. Do you remember the source where you read that? Ime, deadbeat dads work cash paying jobs so they can't get their checks garnished. I guess that way they can also claim they don't make any $ and are below poverty so they can still get their benefits. If they are shirking responsibility and cheating the system 1 way, I wouldn't trust their tax returns...
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/17 11:01 AM
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This is a dumb comment. Her feelings don't matter? They are the priority actually. No one really knows when an egg and sperm become "human". Every state has a different laws about it, every single person has a different opinion, but we simply do not know when "life" really begins. So you can't say it is right or wrong to have a kid in blanket circumstances. If she feels that the kid is alive, you can't ask her to murder her child (in her mind). That would cause intense emotional trauma. And if s…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/17 10:57 AM
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She's not abandoning him at all. She's going above and beyond her obligations to him.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/17 10:48 AM
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Abandon? She pays more than what she is required to.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/17 10:47 AM
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I 100% agree with her and I'm 22...
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/17 09:12 PM
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Women who raise their sons train them to want a wife? Lol NO. It's very basic biology to want to fall and love and make babies. Think about it dude. If what you're saying is true, then men whose moms died or sent them to boarding school wouldn't get married... and obviously that's not true! Where do you get these crazy ideas? And why the hell do you believe them blindly when reality doesn't follow that idea?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/17 11:49 AM
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Why join Isis when you could just hire a prostitute? Or focus on getting a girlfriend instead of trying for casual sex?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/17 03:42 PM
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Why would you assume that stereotype? Being single means you hate men? TIL.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/17 10:45 AM
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Lol reality shows the exact opposite. Women have been fighting for more independence for as long as we have had written history... women don't need men as companions at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/17 10:44 AM
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I thought it was because the Russians interfered in our election?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/17 10:42 AM
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So end the stigma that the amount of sex you have influences your character and expand the welfare system? I agree. Those are not common red pill ideas.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/17 03:10 AM
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So how would you like to help omegas? Give everyone who is a virgin older than 30 some sort of welfare to help them live comfortably?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/17 04:29 PM
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Yeah, they don't like casual sex as much because their sex drives are completely different than a man's Nope. Orgasms are just much harder to get for women, so the guy has to give a fuck. Thats not likely to happen as a ONS. A guy has a 95% chance of getting an orgasm from a ONS, if a girl had that same % of course she would want to fuck him. But with ONS, that is more like 20% chance of orgasm and 50% chance of it being painful. Your point, which is that a woman's sex drive could equal that of …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/17 04:13 PM
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But women don't like casual sex as much as men.... a man can have an orgasm from casual sex 95% of the time and worst case scenario it's meh. A woman will have an orgasm from casual sex 20% of the time and worst case scenario it's painful. I think you need to pick the goalposts and stick with them. You started out saying women's sex drives were weaker and now youve ended up talking about casual sex vs relationships. Sex drive has nothing to do with how many people you would fuck, it is how often…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/17 08:49 PM
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Dude I'm making fun of your comment. Men don't go to jail because women make them commit crimes to have sex with them and courts aren't in a conspiracy against them.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/17 12:44 AM
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You said that men end up in jail because of "gendered family court" and that some how women force men to fulfill this masculine role by not having sex with them if they don't.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/17 12:29 AM
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Yeahhh ending up in jail because you beat you wife doesn't mean that you have to be super masculine to get laid...
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/17 12:15 AM
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So you say she's 75lbs overweight.... but I bet she still buys nice clothes, does her hair and makeup every day, whites her teeth, shaves/waxed/plucks every hair, gets pedicures and manicures every so often, gets her hair dyed often, spends 1 or more hours a day getting ready before she even leaves the house, etc etc etc. Women out way more time and effort into their appearance, so obviously they tend to be more attractive. A 3 woman is still pretty decent, a 3 man is someone who doesn't shave h…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/17 11:18 PM
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Dread doesn't work. If it did, divorce wouldn't be so prevalent. If you want your wife to be sexual again, make her feel sexy. Hire a babysitter once a week, tell her to go to the gym a few days a week while you cook dinner, take her on dates where she gets dressed up, flirt with her again. That's what her new boyfriends will do, that's why they will get laid.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/17 05:39 PM
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This is pretty accurate. Also, women are feeling less societal pressure to get married. Men were always allowed to be a 40 year old bachelor, but up until recently a 30 year old woman who wasn't married was seen as a "spinster". Then you take into account that women age better than men, women do 2x the housework even when working the same # of hours outside the home, yeah fuck that. I'm not trying to do someone elses laundry while he lets himself go and I've been moisturizing and eating salads f…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/17 01:10 PM
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You should read Time magazine. They had an issue last month titled The Science of Marriage. There was an entire section about how marriage keeps men healthy. It was a correlation with wifes education status too. Men who were married lived longer, had much less incidence of cancer, etc. I bought a copy Ill see if I can dig it up to give you the exact stats. Basically, when youre married your wife will cook you dinner so you don't eat Mcdonalds 5x/week. Your wife will encourage you to eat veggies …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/17 01:04 PM
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I'm still very confused. What ideas about feminism specifically do you like? Do you like that feminism wants to make abortion and birth control more accessible? This is obviously a huge part of feminism. Do you want more women in congress/leadership roles? Do you want paid paternity leave? Do you want stronger punishments for sexual harassment, especially in the workforce? Do you want more equality in the workforce? (More men as teachers and nurses, more women as engineers?) These are obviously …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/17 12:28 PM
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Well I definitely don't think women fake their sexuality to land a man. This is what I think is more likely: man and woman meet and hit it off. For the first few months or years everything is great, the sex is great. Eventually she gets pregnant and has a kid. Between the body changes, having a baby attached to her all the time, not getting enough sleep, etc. her sex drive plummets. The man is obviously not unaffected, but he's not breast feeding and he didn't just give birth so his sex drive st…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/17 12:24 PM
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No. Understand how much sex you want and need, then find someone who is compatible with that. Just like any other trait, you need to be compatible with your ltr. No one wants to have sex with someone who is only fucking them to meet a quota. Your partner deserves to be desired and you deserve to have the sex life you want. So find someone compatible in important areas of your life, like sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/17 05:44 AM
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I'm very confused. Can you give me specific examples of feminism you support and why?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/17 05:40 AM
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Oh okay, well please provide me those studies then so I can read them and debate them!
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/17 03:09 PM
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Alright. So you told me to look at that page and see how every guy was the same. When I point out how different the guys are, you just make excuses for them. Nope, I have dated men shorter than me and I don't think anyone finds "masculine traits" attractive. Having a temper and being jealous? No thanks. Even muscles don't look good on everyone. If they did, why doesn't every guy just get super buff since every girl likes that? Because not every girl is into muscles!
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/17 03:00 PM
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http://imgur.com/hTlLSj5 This is their front page right now. White guys, black guys, middle eastern? Guys. Daniel Radcliffe is there, you think he's a Chad? At 5'4"? Paul Rudd? You think he's Chad that all women will drool over? I definitely don't find Paul Rudd sexually attractive, but apparently a few thousands women do, so wow look at that more proof women don't all drool over the same things!
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/17 01:32 PM
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I'm not going to watch a YouTube video on someone's opinion. If you have a scientific study, some statistics, I will listen to those. I don't care about what you think, I care about what is actually happening.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/17 01:29 PM
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Lol where is your mountain of evidence that women are all attracted to the same thing? Every single thread asking women what they find has has a million different answers. You're determined to believe what you want. You do not care about evidence. You will discredit it immediately if it doesn't fit your narrative.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/17 01:08 PM
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Nope... that doesn't even make sense. The only thing I can think of is if they used the money to buy nice clothes, nice haircut, eat healthier etc. How does money give you an orgasm? Lol. What's the saying? You can make a hot guy rich but you can't make a rich guy hot.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/17 01:07 PM
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How do you ever change your mind if you believe all evidence contrary to your beliefs is "feminist propaganda"?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/17 12:56 PM
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What would being rich have to do with it? Being rich does not make you hot...
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/17 12:35 PM
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This study says completely differently. It says women have more varied tastes than men.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/17 12:35 PM
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Wow. An actual study to prove the red pill theory wrong. Let's see how they deny this one...
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/17 12:34 PM
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I did. Please answer my questions.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/17 10:19 PM
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Nope, you're completely wrong. Rape is 1 in 3-5 for women, 1 in 20 for men. DV is more common and MUCH more deadly in women. I think you're thinking of dv victims fighting back... yes, women are much more likely to fight back against their abuser than men. Because if they didn't they would die. They already die so often, it's actually the leading cause of death in female homicide victims. Can you believe that? Men are the leading cause of death among female homicide victims. That's crazy to me :…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/17 10:19 PM
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What? I am currently admitting men have it worse in some ways. Oh and I'm a feminist. But again, that's like saying rich people have it worse than poor people. In some ways, yes. They face disadvantages that poor people don't (like no welfare, less tax breaks), but that's not the same as being the disadvantaged group. Women are extremely underrepresented in any group of power (CEOs, congressmen, judges, presidents) but over represented in disadvantaged groups (poverty, abuse victims, etc).
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/17 09:30 PM
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What congressional agencies have no men? I find that hard to believe. Yes... that is the exact definition of "over represented", that is exactly what that means. Men make up 50% of the population, but 80% of congress, that means their are ideas are over represented Why is equality not realistic? That's ridiculous... that's like me saying we shouldn't help homeless men because having 0 homeless people is unrealistic.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/17 09:26 PM
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Men and women both have disadvantages related to gender. But that's like saying both rich and poor people have problems relating to money. Yes, women are by far more systemically disadvantaged by their gender. That doesn't mean men don't have any problems.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/17 01:47 PM
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I don't know about homelessness but women are much more likely to live in poverty than men...
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/17 01:38 PM
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I want equality... so if women are 50% of the population they should be represented by 50% of Congress and CEOs. If men are 50% of the population but 80% of congress, their ideas are over represented.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/17 01:38 PM
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I wouldn't say that
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/17 10:48 AM
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Exactly. I never said all men are congressmen. So I never made an apex fallacy. I said men is over represented in congress, so therefore congresses ideas (i.e. Laws) are more heavy influenced by men than women and that isn't fair.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/17 12:42 AM
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The world's best long-distance runners come from Africa. P2: (unstated) Those runners are representative of Africans. C1: All Africans are good long distance runners. This is an apex fallacy because not all Africans are good long distance runners So for me to have an apex fallacy I would have to say this: men make up around 80~85% of congress, those congressmen are representative of all men, all men will become congressmen. Obviously I am not saying that all men will become congressmen, so this …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/17 12:05 AM
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What explanation? I'm not saying all men are CEOs and rich guys. That's what an apex fallacy is!!!!
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/17 11:36 PM
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What? I want women represented 50% in congress. That doesn't mean I will vote for a terrible congressman just because she's female. I want more women to run for office, I want programs to encourage young women's leadership skills to help close the gap.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/17 10:43 PM
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I haven't edited anything dude. It's not a biased website at all... you're just mad that it doesn't support your argument. Find me any website you want I guarantee you won't find one to support your definition because it's not the definition lol
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/17 10:07 PM
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I don't think you should vote for someone just because they are a man or woman, you should vote based on their policies... But anyway, a lot of districts have incumbent Congressmen for years and years, or people who run unopposed. I'm sure you're going to say "well more women should run for office then" and I agree! I would love to see programs encouraging women to go into politics.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/17 10:06 PM
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It's not a biased article -_- it's Wikipedia... it's pretty straight forward with definitions. You understand how what I'm describing is not apex principle, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/17 10:01 PM
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Women cannot equally give input because they are not in positions of power... A CEO has much more influence over his media station that anyone else. If most CEOs are male, then more male ideas are represented in society. It has nothing to do with an individuals chances of becoming a CEO or rich. It's about who influences society more: men or women? Men, because they have the power to do so by being over represented in positions of power, like CEOs and congressmen. That's not fair to women, we ar…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/17 08:50 PM
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I'm very confused. You originally accused me of the apex fallacy? I'm explaining why that is not the apex fallacy. The best I can do is tell you to look at the first example, I think that proves my point. Do you understand?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/17 08:45 PM
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College is not masculine. Wtf. Confidence is not masculine. That is something everyone strives to be! What masculine hobbies are women trying to do? Women are shutting up about makeup? Hmm weird, the female fashion industry has been booming the since the 80s, you might want to tell them! She has a mix of male and female qualities, but her personality is that of a boss ass bitch. Very feminine, she's extremely cunning and holds a grudge. She has great planning skills and is harsh. That's feminine…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/17 08:41 PM
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http://imgur.com/vPUwAB4 I'm not seeing what you're quoting at all. Can you be more specific? Look at the first example, I think that will help you understand it.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/17 08:32 PM
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What? We literally do not do any of those things you said. High testosterone women are praised in our society? Can you give me an example... personally, I think we shun typically masculine traits in our society. We tell boys to sit still, be quiet, we punish violence harshly, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/17 08:27 PM
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I'm very confused. What are you quoting? What does that have to do with anything I said?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/17 08:25 PM
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Uhh that's completely not the point... men's ideas and influence are over represented and women's are under represented. A classic example of this is that picture of 50 white men in a room deciding on women's health care. Women's ideas are not adequately represented in government. We are 50% of the population, we deserve 50% representation. Same thing with CEOs. A CEO of a major TV network is going to obviously have a lot of say in what direction the media takes. If 90% of tv station CEOs are ma…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/17 08:23 PM
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You have a fundamental misunderstand of what I am saying or what the apex fallacy is. I am not saying all men are CEOs or congressmen. I am saying that men as a group are objectively in over represented in positions of power and women as a group are objectively more likely to be under represented in fields of power. http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Apex_fallacy Read the examples it will help.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/17 08:02 PM
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Haha wut. How is a male brain superior? You can't say stuff like that and then claim we don't need feminism. What you said is sexist af and that's exactly why we need feminism to fight it.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/17 05:44 PM
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Well, men make up around 80~85% of congress and are over represented in virtually all positions of power. CEOsof Fortune 500 company's are extremely predominantly white men, while people in poverty tend to be women and minorities. How do you think that men are the disadvantaged group? They seem to me to be the "default" of society.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/17 05:39 PM
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How does being a victim of abuse qualify for that comparison? If someone committed violence against you, would you say "it takes 2 to tango"?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/17 03:37 PM
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He might be. Maybe his username is too.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/17 02:35 PM
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How. How is it her fault for "choosing a bad boy" and not his fault for abusing her? You know abusers don't tell you they are abusers in the first date, right? They hide it for months or years. Furthermore, most people don't know the warning signs of abusive relationships are, they don't know what things like gaslighting are. It's hard to label your partner, someone who is loving most of the time and who you have known for years etc, as "abusive". It's hard to recognize that situation and then t…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/17 02:20 PM
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That's true, but it does get them laid.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/17 07:07 PM
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Cmv: all incels are actually volcels. I saw a post on r/foreveralone asking if overweight men were actually incel, since being overweight is change able. By that logic, everything is changeable. It takes months or years of self disciple to lose a considerable amount of weight. You could say the same thing about being poor, not having any accomplishments or skills, etc. Everything is changeable given some time and effort. So therefore, no one is celibate against their will. Everyone could change …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/17 06:55 PM
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BMI takes into account your height... I agree that BMI can be skewed to make you look fat... but thats if youre like a body builder or olympic athlete. I hate to tell you this, but a BMI of 25 is "overweight". A BMI of 30 is actually "obese". So... youre at least very overweight.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/17 12:12 PM
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She said that women, collectively, have a strong innate desire for a strong man to protect and take care of them -- and that makes complete and utter sense. I 100% agree, women generally want a man to protect and take care of them. The problem is, youre assuming what those traits are! That doesn't mean the man has to be physically strong or dominant or anything else. Every woman is different, so the way a man "takes care of her" is going to be different. Being "successful" can mean a million dif…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/17 11:56 AM
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If women put in half the effort they put into their appearance, men would STILL want to have sex with them. I disagree. I think if men and women put in equal amounts of effort/time/money into appearance this would do a LOT for closing this attraction gap. Since men don't have to carry a baby for nine months, we are FAR, FAR, FAR less picky about who we have sex with. This has nothing to do with it. Humans have been using birth control for as long as we have been having sex. Literally thousands o…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/17 01:14 AM
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Yeah I think it's actually a size 16 for women and xxl for men :/ Americans are faaattt. It doesn't matter if it's "pretentious" or not, the only one your standards affect are you. You might never get a girlfriend with those standards, but at least if you do you will genuinely be attracted to her.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/17 11:45 PM
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This is a weird comment. First of all, did your parents tell you how much to eat? Mine never did, that's weird... Secondly it's not so much "how much they ate" as it is what they ate. When your parents cook for you, you eat a lower calorie meal. When you can't cook/don't have time to cook and you eat fast food 4x/week, you will get fat. And thirdly, alcohol. Consumption drastically increases in college. Alcohol will make you fat, fast.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/17 11:43 PM
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Hmmmm I agree that men and women's sexuality is different, but not that their sex drives are different. For instance, women are the more attractive sex. So do men want to have sex with 60% of women their age? Hell yeah, women are hot! But men are not as attractive as women (well, they simply don't put in nearly the same time effort and money into looking good as women do) so no, I don't know any women who would sleep with 60% of guy's her age. Then ass on how culture teaches women to repress the…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/17 05:57 AM
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A fair number of girls tended to have their first serious boyfriend relationship end during or just before college. Post-breakup, they go through a "sexy" phase (this usually involves a lots of nights out drinking to various degrees, and hooking up okay yes now we are getting somewhere. A small % of women, as you have said they are generally young and its a small stage in their lives, have casual sex. So, when youre looking at ONS, you might be right that only 20% of men can get them... but that…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/17 11:00 PM
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Maybe I view it differently because I have a number of female friends who got drunk, slept with a guy, and then regretted it Wait wait, now that is rapey. Theres a massive difference in buying a girl a drink and getting a girl so drunk she cannot consent to sex. I'm not saying your friends were raped because I don't know all the details and they may just regret the sex, but that needs further investigating. Theres a lot of coping defenses after someone gets raped, they often convince themselves …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/17 07:19 PM
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They do. They simply have romantic relationships with betas at the same time. What? They do? Okay please ask all of your female friends if they have ever slept with anyone who looks like the men you have shown. Like... thats an insane statement. All women have slept with male models? NO. You KNOW thats not true! Your reality has nothing to with the fact that women initiate 70% of the divorces? That's true love right there. men and women equally initiate breakups. Women start the paperwork, not i…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/17 12:58 PM
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I sometimes feel a bit uncomfortable about the things he says because modern feminism tells me these things are rapey (like he's told me I should just go out and buy girls drinks This is not "rapey" even in the slightest bit. Unless he was telling you to also slip something in their drink or make their drinks stronger without telling them or something? BUT, and this is a big BUT, almost all these women are still some part of his life. Yes, most guys I have slept with I am still at least acquaint…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/17 12:31 PM
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Alright so just to sum up. Every woman could fuck these insanely hot guys, but they don't. They instead, for some reason don't and then lock themselves into a marriage with beta men they do not love or want to fuck, because they are lonely. That's not my reality at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/17 12:18 PM
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What? Who do you think the top 1% is? I mean.. I'm a pretty attractive girl, and there's no way in hell I could pull Ryan Reynolds or Zack efron or anyone on Greys Anatomy. Why would they do that? They could fuck a 1% or be trapped in a marriage to a guy they consider unattractive and beta? That's like saying you could have ice cream whenever you want and be free, or you could never have ice cream, are forced to eat spinach when you even want food, and can't look anywhere else for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/17 05:51 AM
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What is keeping women from fucking the top % and getting attention and validation from other guys? Why the hell couldnt she just ONS Ryan Reynolds and settle down with a beta? Just face it, women are who they want to be with. And since something like 85% of people over 25 are married, that means women are attracted to a wide variety of men.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/17 05:44 AM
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It doesn't matter what % you think it is. Whatever the top % is, if they get all the women then how are there women dating guys who aren't in the top 1%? Obviously, 99% of guys aren't single. So why don't all women, if we are all the same, just go fuck the top 1% of guy's and leave everyone else alone?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/17 05:39 AM
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They why don't they? Why don't the top 20% of men each have 5 girlfriends?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/17 05:30 AM
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So... men are as not diverse as women? They are all hard wired to be the same, chase the same type of women, cheat, etc?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/17 05:17 AM
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I never said you were a cheater. How likely are you to cheat? Do you think all men, or 80% of men, are the same as you? If not, how can you say all women, or 80% of women, would do the same thing as one another? Humans are DIVERSE! There's too many of us not to be
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/17 04:56 AM
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Women are human, just like men. Do you think men are the same everywhere? Is every man you have ever met just as equally as likely to cheat as you? Of course not. Women are the same! There are billions of us, in all different cultures finding all different types of men attractive, we are soooo diverse. Saying all women would cheat because some would is... just ridiculous.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/17 04:45 AM
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What does it matter where you live? The point is wherever you live, you can't possibly know more than a tiny tiny fraction of the women that live in that part of the world. I mean, America alone is MASSIVE. Women in Vermont are different than women in Florida and they are different than women in any other state. Like.... there's just no way that your "observations" (which I'm sure followed scientific method, right?) are an accurate sample at all of women in your hemisphere of the world, or even …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/17 04:34 AM
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Have you ever thought that maybe you just hang out with shitty people? And maybe the ~100 women you have known the sex lives of are not indicative of 3.5 billion women of allllll different backgrounds and values?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/17 04:19 AM
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Okay, so where are you getting this "80% of women are cheating on their boyfriends"? Where is that statistic coming from? Like what study or what source? Is it a survey?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/17 04:11 AM
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Well, then it must be stronger than the average mans too. But honestly, I think most men underestimate the average woman's sex drive. Especially unattractive men, because they think if women don't want to have sex with them then they must have a low libido... which is silly of course.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/17 04:10 AM
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That's a specific number! Did you pull that out of your ass or? And if women can get sex whenever they want, they don't have to "try" to cheat on their boyfriends, they all would be, right??
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/17 03:40 AM
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But she was experience male puberty. Not just being a man... puberty is a huge rush of hormones. A boy going through puberty is not a man with an average sex drive. Yes, I can't imagine how you could be feminist or become a man if you hated men.... lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/17 03:40 AM
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You can find entire threads in the very sub saying that slutty women aren't good relationship material. You can't say slut shaming doesn't exist for women, there's proof on this sub.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/17 12:41 AM
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Well yeah, women are much more sensitive to testosterone than men. Starting on testosterone was like going through a 2nd puberty, which is essentially what she is doing trying to change her gender.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/17 07:17 PM
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She's having sex with the men she finds attractive... Why don't men only have sex with good women? Why do they reward annoying, bitchy women with sex? They know it's rewarding to women
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/17 07:14 PM
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But again, sex benefits women too so it inherently cannot be used as a reward and punishment for men. Could you make sex a reward and punishment for a woman? No because the man wants to have sex too, it would punish him too. Same thing for sex with women. Women aren't having sex with men they find attractive to reward them for being attractive, they are having sex to "reward" themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/17 05:58 PM
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What do you mean? They already do this... you think 80% of women are single or with cheating men?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/17 05:26 PM
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Same reason that 5s and 6s tell single guys at technical colleges and comics conventions that they are undateable and should just go back to their dungeon. The women prefer to fawn over top-tier men instead. Are those guys also 5s and 6s? Women just want to date someone as attractive as them- just like guys! I see lots of women who seem totally ok with marrying men who used them to cheat on their previous wife. Thats not the same as cheating on them. How many women would stay with a man cheating…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/17 05:08 PM
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So... how would society have that drastic of a shift? What would cause women to settle for this? Ultimately, what would cause a guy to settle for this? Spell it out for me. A guy who is a 9 starts dating another 9. Then he also gets a few 5s and 6s? Why would he want to risk his 9? Why wouldn't his 9 just go find someone else not fucking other girls? Why wouldn't the 5s and 6s find someone not fucking other girls? I just... don't see how that works at all. Especially if it's serial monogamy vs O…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/17 01:05 PM
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That wouldn't even make sense. Multiple women would be sharing 1 guy? Why would the women do that? We currently do not do this in our society. Most women are NOT okay with polyamory. What would cause such a drastic, societal shift?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/17 12:58 PM
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So... here's the thing. On a bell curve, the average people in the middle can be men or women. The average sex drives are the same. But on the extremes, men tend to be on one end and women on the other. Then you add on culture. Women are shamed for having sex and may not have it even when they really want to because they don't want to be labeled a "slut". Men on the other hand, will have sex even when they don't really want to because they don't want to be the last virgin in their friend group a…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/17 12:52 PM
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Nope. A "player" is just a guy who has a lot of sex. It's synonymous with slut. Being a slut for a male or female does not say anything bad about your character and certainly doesn't make you a misogynist. You can be a virgin and by a misogynist, like incels!
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/17 11:50 AM
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But sex isn't a reward... that's like saying eating is a reward. Sure, if you make a special meal and do it up it could be a reward. But most people eat often, it's just apart of life not a reward. Plus, do you want women treating sex like a punishment/reward system? No. And women want sex too, so "punishing" their boyfriend would also be punishment for them.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/17 11:48 AM
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Yeah.... that's how a relationship is considered successful. I don't care about people who have dated for a few months, no one does...
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/17 11:38 AM
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Okay, any long term relationship then.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/17 03:11 AM
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I'm not specifically talking about marriage... gay marriage hasn't even been long legal for 12 years, how would that data have been collected? But if you're a couple together for 12 years, it doesn't matter if you're married or not. That's still a pretty stinking successful relationship
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/17 02:02 AM
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But the stats still say gay marriage vs lesbian marriage there is very little difference in break ups...it doesn't matter who gets together faster
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/17 01:09 AM
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Did you read the stats? There's hardly any difference at all. A 1.8% difference and a relationship mean of 12.8 vs 12.5? That's hardly any difference at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/17 11:20 PM
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I can't do your research for you. I am claiming you are wrong, so I am claiming your research doesn't exist. Prove to me it exists. I can't prove it to myself, obviously.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/17 09:10 PM
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Did you read the comment you replied to? It was clearly satirical. Lesbians hardly break up any more than gay men.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/17 08:47 PM
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Hey, you're just insulting me now. I graduating with a stem degree and am currently in med school. I care very much about scientific studies. That is why I am asking you to provide your study to back up your statement. That is how debates work, in every single context. This is not difficult, you don't need to insult my intelligence, just give me the other half of your comment! The evidence that you need to provide to have a claim. If you don't have the evidence, you shouldn't have made the claim…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/17 08:16 PM
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Okay you're crazy. That's like saying all of Christianity is wrong because 1 preacher said something controversial. Feminism has done amazing things for both men and women in the last 100 years. 100 years ago, women couldn't even go to the same colleges and major in any sciences! So I'm sorry 1 woman you consider a feminist said something controversial, but all in all you should thank your lucky stars feminism exists. Otherwise you would be expected to 100% provide for your wife and kids while s…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/17 03:30 PM
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I have no idea who that is... there are bad people out there, but don't assume those people are feminist. If they want to change the definition of rape to be all inclusive, they are feminist. Just like the U.K. feminist group who actually got the inclusive rape bill on the ballot!
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/17 08:12 AM
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Wtf lol just tell me! This is a weird guessing game
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/17 08:10 AM
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> Okay, so what is the financial value of doing all the cooking and cleaning for a family of 4 for 10 years? Depends on where you are but roughly $250k to $500k depending on the level of service you want, inclusive of child care. This is the entire comment
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/17 12:41 AM
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You said child care + household stuff was equal to 250-500k/year... if that is what dad is supposed to pay mom when they get divorced, mom is going to clean dad out.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/17 12:05 AM
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That's not true at all, absolutely no feminist will ever say that if a woman forces a man to penetrate her that isn't rape. Every feminist agrees that it is! We just want consist definitions for everyone. We don't want male rape to mean one thing and female rape to mean another.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/17 11:41 PM
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I will gladly read any study you present. I am really not trying to make any excuses. I am saying the study doesn't exist, you say it does, so it's up to you to prove it.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/17 11:24 PM
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They are over valued? No. We just agreed that if you had to pay to have all your meals cooked for you, your laundry done, pay a cleaning service to do the cleaning, and a baby sitting service for all the child care, SAHMs would wipe out dads financially.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/17 11:23 PM
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The responsibility of finding your study and proving your point falls on you.... I cannot prove your point for you... If it's already linked, why can't you link it here? Why are you so against trying to provide evidence for your claims?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/17 10:14 PM
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Yup, and statistically, the younger you get married the more likely you are to divorce. If you get married after 25 your divorce rate drops to 16%. It's almost like getting married for the purpose of losing your virginity doesn't make for a strong marriage /s
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/17 09:56 PM
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Those things are not financially considered at all... neither is sex, wtf. When figuring out how to divide up assets, those things are not considered at all. Pre nups, pre marital assets and debts, and assets acquired are all that is looked at. Maybe that stuff is looked at when you get into dividing up child care... but not assets of the marriage.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/17 09:54 PM
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Please just give me the exact study you are referring to :) I do not need to be taught how to find your source
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/17 09:52 PM
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I really can't find those studies... if you can find them so easily please link them here!
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/17 09:19 PM
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So you want that to be considered in divorce? SAHMs would completely clean out dads, that doesn't make sense for anyone. It's very difficult to figure out exactly who is entitled to what, especially with non financial contributions to the family. So in the USA, everything earned and all decisions made during the marriage hold each person 50% responsible.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/17 09:18 PM
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How can you put your pill on your phone -_- just because your alarm goes off to take it, doesn't mean you have the pills with you... Side effects like nausea and mood swings would obviously keep you from wanting to take the pill. There's hardly any way to misuse a condom. You can't even describe one way. If you try to put it on inside out you can't even roll it down. Sizing is hardly an issue as most condoms are one size fits all. Typical use is what matters -_- condoms are more effective in rea…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/17 08:38 PM
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I can't debate a study that I haven't seen... if you are basing a claim on a study, you need to provide the study so we can examine if your claim is true and backed up by anything. How can we debate anything if we can claim whatever we want and not back it up?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/17 08:35 PM
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Okay, so what is the financial value of doing all the cooking and cleaning for a family of 4 for 10 years? If you were to look at market value for those things, SAHMs would clean our dads when they got divorced. Oh, and 24 hour baby sitting service too!
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/17 07:50 PM
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Umm this is a debate sub and I'm asking you questions. If you can't answer even 1 question maybe you shouldn't be posting here
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/17 07:13 PM
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So by that logic a virgin is a hideous woman? A mans commitment is highly correlated with female sexual access? Do you mean to say that when a man is in a committed relationship he gets more sex? Because that is true for both genders, not just men.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/17 06:46 PM
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Yes, you said "gives up all his options for her". No, I'd prefer if he didn't have "options" in the first place. Can you answer my question please? Men's commitment means nothing unless the woman also wants to commit. She has to give up being free too, it's a two way street. His commitment does not mean more than hers.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/17 06:42 PM
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I don't know what the fuck you're talking about with CDC numbers? In Britain, feminists led the campaign to change the legal definition of rape to no longer include "penetration". The law didn't pass a mostly male governing body. Men are the ones actually blocking legal changes like that, feminists are the ones fighting for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/17 06:38 PM
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No, you're assuming a bunch of random crap about women's sexuality. Women want a man that only desires her. A mans commitment is highly correlated with female sexual access? Do you mean to say that when a man is in a committed relationship he gets more sex? Because that is true for both genders, not just men.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/17 06:35 PM
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But it also seems like you think it's a gendered thing... it's not. Both genders want to be their SOs one and only. But you have to be mature and recognize that you can't shame people into not having relationships or sex. There's nothing wrong with someone of either gender exploring their sexuality. Ultimately, whatever they did in their past made them a great partner for you and gave them the experience to know they want to be with you.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/17 04:07 PM
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I know, literally everyone wants that. Everyone wants to be the one and only object of desire to their SO, but of course that's not reasonable at all. Even if you did manage to fall in love with someone who happened to be a virgin, they would probably never be a "raging slut" for you. If sex wasn't important in their life before you, sex just isn't important to them in general.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/17 03:27 PM
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Soo if I tell you I fucked 10 guys but I lived in LA or something where everyone is hot, that makes me less of a slut than a girl who fucked 10 guys in a small midwestern town? Also, people generally looksmatch and some people on this thread would argue women very rarely go down. So if I'm a hot girl, barring a number count in the triple digits, the guys I've hooked up with are probably also hot.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/17 01:00 PM
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I mean... everyone wants that. Everyone wants to be their SOs first and only, while they also have a libido and kinks that match yours. But there's a huge difference in knowing men want to be your first and allowing that to rule your life. Most women (well most people) will not wait until marriage to have sex. Our sex drive is one of our most primitive desires, it's a very strong drive. Expecting anyone to wait until they meet you to have sex is ridiculous and unreasonable. So I wouldn't say wom…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/17 12:57 PM
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Everything you do in a marriage gets split 50/50 because it's impossible to say who is entitled to what. Women are not favored any more than men. There is no entitlement.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/17 12:17 PM
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So the wealth women end up with will be much less than the wealth dads end up with. My point is that women suffer more financially from a divorce than men.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/17 12:16 PM
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Your OWN SOURCE says "oral contraceptive: 92%" -_- How are condoms complicated at all? Seriously, explain it to me. What if you aren't home when your alarm goes off? What about the side effects of the pill + getting the prescription in the first place?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/17 03:21 AM
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I am comparing the perfect use for both. Again, condoms have very little room for error, unlike the pill which has to be taken at the same time everyday.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/17 03:06 AM
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https://www.plannedparenthood.org/learn/birth-control/condom/how-effective-are-condoms Oral contraceptive: 92% Male Condom usage: 98% Which is higher, 92 or 98?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/17 02:58 AM
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What? No with perfect use hormonal birth control is 97%. If you miss a day (human error) it actually drops down to the 70s. Condoms are 99% with perfect use and have very low rates of human error. And again, it is the only birth control to protect against both STIs and pregnancy.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/17 02:51 AM
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Okay, in the USA a married couple is each entitled to 50% of whatever was earned during the marriage. So yes, she has 50% ownership of that money. Furthermore, in some cases a spouse may be eligible for ownership of future earnings. For instance, my mom is an orthopedic surgeon. For the ~10 years she was in school and doing residency, my dad was taking care of everything at home. If they were to get a divorce right when my mom started making $$$, the courts would order her to pay my dad some % o…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/17 10:52 PM
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A married couple has access to everything acquired during a marriage. So long answer short, yes both couples are entitled to 50% of the wealth when they break up, and both are responsible for 50% of the debt accumulated.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/17 09:49 PM
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Condoms have the highest protection rate actually... they are 99% effective, my hormonal bc is only 97%. And, condoms are the only way to protect against pregnancy and STDs.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/17 09:47 PM
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I agree. That goes for both men and women.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/17 09:45 PM
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I don't think that would happen at all! Quite the opposite, I think all the kids growing up in foster care without adult supervision are going to start having babies of their own and we are going to get stuck in a welfare loop. Why does it fall on women to use safer sex practices? Why can't both couples take equal actions to prevent a pregnancy and equal responsibility for the result of those actions? Why are you trying to protect men from taking responsibility? Do you not think they are as capa…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/17 06:14 PM
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https://showhope.org/2015/06/19/9-stats-about-the-orphan-crisis/ This shows that in the USA we have a huge overload of children in the foster care system who never get adopted. Of the children who do get adopted, they are still in the foster care system for an average of 22 months. So let me get this straight, your solution is if a single mom doesn't get an abortion the father doesn't pay for it or is involved in any way, she is ineligible for welfare, so you're going to take her kid away and pa…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/17 06:02 PM
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So when she applies for welfare benefits, you're going to deny them on the basis that she's a single mom and let the kid starve to death?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/17 05:50 PM
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I think for the purpose of this debate you should at least assume you will have average symptoms.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/17 05:36 PM
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So then who will pay for it? The state, aka the taxpayers. If that's what you want, fine, but I am not comfortable dramatically increasing the number of welfare recipients. Luckily, that won't be happening anytime soon because our republican congress is trying to majorly cut the budget right now.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/17 05:34 PM
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What are you talking about? That happens all the time! He puts it on and then takes it off. There's not a big difference in feeling for the woman. The fetus is inside her body. She can kick it out, just like she can take out a tumor or a tape worm. Or she can choose to leave it in, like a tumor or a tapeworm! She has to weigh the pros and cons and come up with a solution she can live with. It is not an easy choice, there are a LOT of factors, not just dads check book.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/17 04:23 PM
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How. I'm trying to make you see how that isn't an easy option either, there's a ton of laws that make abortion ridiculously inaccessible and expensive. In Texas the doctor is required to tell you that an abortion may increase your risk of various cancers and infertility, even though there's no evidence to back that up. Now add to that mess all the ethical arguments that go with abortion. Getting an abortion is not a simple solution either. Forcing a woman to get an abortion just because dad does…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/17 03:57 PM
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I agree! That's why she needs child support haha. Seriously, what do you want her to do?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/17 03:49 PM
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Yeah, I also wish women had the option to become temporarily sterile. That's not what hormonal birth control does. If it did, it would be impossible to get pregnant and birth control would be 100% effective. Obviously, it's not, its less effective than condoms. But if it ever becomes possible to make yourself temporarily sterile, I would love both men and women to have that option!
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/17 03:24 PM
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How can he lie? Are you serious..? "I'll wear a condom I promise" there I just did it. How can he give input on if she should get an abortion? Can she give input on if he should get a vasectomy? It's her body, no one else can infringe on her bodily autonomy. There is literally no situation where bodily autonomy can legally be infringed upon in any way.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/17 03:23 PM
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Dude. I'm not arguing about whose income it is. I'm arguing about who loses more in a divorce. You said women do not face as much consequences as men.... that is false. Whether it is her money or her husbands (which is probably hers, she probably works less hours now that she has kids full time but anyway) she is still losing that money. She is still losing that standard of living. When a couple gets a divorce, a woman suffers more financial setbacks than the man. That is a fact, which I have pr…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/17 03:21 PM
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It's actually not an official policy anymore. I'm sorry you live in a dictatorship like china.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/17 03:04 PM
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Oh you said a way to make a women temporarily sterile. That's a lot different.... I would trade you every type of hormonal birth control for condoms and vasectomies. No side effects, no expensive doctors visits, free or like $1, no prescription needed and they are sold on every corner? Fuck yeah, fuck my nausea and high copays give me condoms anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/17 03:02 PM
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So you saying women don't lose anything is complete bullshit. They lose 30% of the income they had before (regardless of if you think they deserve it or not. Divorce is financially more difficult for women.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/17 03:00 PM
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You're also missing the part where they have to be a good partner themselves. Not just be able to commit, they have to not be overweight, socially awkward, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/17 02:46 PM
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In America, it can't be enforced. We have about 100 laws that would be broken. There's no executive order or anything that could enforce mandatory abortions in the USA. Where do you live where this is possible to enforce?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/17 02:33 PM
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I read what you said. Both people have option me for birth control, both people can lie about using birth control, both people need to take care of any resulting kids. It would be nice if both people could agree to keep or abort, but ultimately you can't force someone to do something with their body they don't want. Abortion has a lot of complicated moral and ethical layers surrounding it, as well as just physical risk. Once a child is born, both parents need to be responsible for it. Because th…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/17 02:32 PM
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Umm... I'm not sure if that's possible... but if it is, that would be great I would want that for women too!
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/17 02:28 PM
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She might not have been. It's more common for men to lie about using birth control than women, so it's very possible he lied to her and said he would use a condom and didn't. And of course, he has bodily autonomy. She can't put a gun to his head and force him to use a condom anymore than he could force her to use birth control.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/17 02:22 PM
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Haha wut. Asking you to cite your source is a "BP tactic"? It's actually just how you debate... when I google "n count leads to divorce" I don't get any relevant google results.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/17 02:21 PM
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What? No sarcasm, I would love for women to be able to become temporarily sterile too! If women had the option of getting a vasectomy I would be so happy. I would get snipped when I was 18 and get it reversed when I got married. Too bad a tubal ligation is permanent and a major abdominal surgery and most doctors won't do it to women under 30 :/
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/17 02:20 PM
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Women lose way more than men in a divorce! https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2009/jan/25/divorce-women-research Men's disposable income actually increases by 25% while a woman's decreases by 30%. This is because mom will take the kids and dad won't pay child support based on their needs, he pays based on his income. Women are also much more likely to drop below the poverty line and will stay there 3x longer than their male counterparts.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/17 02:18 PM
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Source for these studies? I know there's a post on ppd that has posted a study, and it actually shows that men's n count increases the risk of divorce more than women's... so please provide a source anytime you talk about a "study".
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/17 02:15 PM
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I'll actually answer this question. When the woman is pregnant, she is the only one who gets a say in her pregnancy. Offering money or anything else to sacrifice her bodily autonomy would be illegal. Just like it is illegal to pay someone for a blood or organ donation. Once the baby is born, who is financially responsible for it? If it is just 1 parent, the state will have to step in and subsidize that a lot. Then the taxpayers will be the one paying for the kid and the state will have to spend …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/17 02:09 PM
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What if you can't afford an abortion? And the nearest clinic is hundreds of miles away and you don't have a car? And you can't afford to take days off of work?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/17 02:04 PM
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Men can't use birth control? You're in some serious need of sex ed. Men get the best birth control! Condoms! There's no side effects, no doctors visits, no prescription, they are like $1 and sold at every gas station.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/17 02:03 PM
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It's actually not that hard at all, and men have condoms. No prescription, no expensive doctors visits, free or very very cheap, no side effects, and sold at literally every single gas station.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/17 02:00 PM
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And look how well that turned out... plus, I don't think we should aspire to be like China.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/17 01:58 PM
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What?? Damn, does this exist? I want this option for women too
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/17 01:56 PM
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More women are killed by their boyfriends and family members than are killed in Iraq + Afghanistan + 9/11 combined. Yeah... men killing women at epidemic rates isn't gendered.... -_-
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/17 07:38 PM
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Lol google bruno fernandez
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/17 07:36 PM
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I'm so confused. You think women beat their husbands at the same rate that men beat their wives? Not. Even. Close. Most DV cases with male victims are gay. Women.. playing sports makes them violent? What? Men play more sports than women.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/17 12:27 PM
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But men aren't victims of female violence. Furthermore, women are victims of random male violence, they are victims of violence from their family members and boyfriends. These are not random attacks or gang related offenses as man on man violence is. This is literally men killing and raping women in their families.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/17 12:54 AM
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As I've said in another comment, manslaughter charges are rarely given for car accidents. They are accidents. Unless a driver was drunk driving or stopped in the middle of a highway, they don't get manslaughter charges.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/17 12:50 AM
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But if they are both men it's not a gender issue -_- I'm talking about gender violence... focus please.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/17 12:49 AM
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Uh no... the only way you get a manslaughter charge for a car accident is if you were drunk or blatantly doing something illegal. The other driver was speeding and it was raining out, the road was slick. There's no way Jenner would have been charged with manslaughter
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/17 12:47 AM
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But she was not convicted of murder... because she didn't murder anyone! She got in a car accident where someone died, that's not quite the same thing as premeditated murder of your ex girlfriend...
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/17 12:03 AM
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I really doubt that's true. Also, how can you say an epidemic of men murdering their wives and girlfriends is somehow not gendered? Of course it is. There is no where NEAR the same thing going on if you reverse the genders.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/17 12:02 AM
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Not at all. This is the reality we live in, did you know more women have been killed by their SOs than all the soldiers killed in Iraq and 9/11 combined? We are so used to women being killed by men it's normal.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/17 11:13 PM
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Afaik, that guy was disobeying traffic laws and it was raining out. Just because someone does doesn't mean Jenner got convicted of murder. Unlike this other guy....
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/17 11:12 PM
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In that instance, I agree. Because according to our society men are supposed to always want sex and rape is supposed to only be penetrative. So if the woman doesn't penetrate the man, it may not be considered rape depending on where you live. This is the main reason feminists want to expand the definition of rape. All forms of rape should be included, regardless of if there is penetration. But in general, violence against women is accepted as part of society (see cases like Brock Turner where ra…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/17 08:53 PM
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you are calling it a vow! It's obviously fine to want to have sex with your wife. The problem is thinking you're entitled to have sex with her because she is your wife (and she made a vow to sexually please you). That is literally called marital rape
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/17 08:51 PM
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What are you talking about? I don't care about your marriage. Your original comment said something like "women should feel bad for breaking their marriage vows for not having sex". Don't you see how wrong that is? You do not make a marriage vow to have sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/17 08:39 PM
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He wouldn't have. Just like the woman who threw acid in a mans face got life in prison, while men who engage in acid attacks are hardly ever even prosecuted. Crimes against women are accepted in our society, crimes against men are very harshly judged.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/17 08:31 PM
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It's not "you" specifically. I am just making the point that marriage vows do not include anything about sex. It's great that you and your wife made that private agreement, but in general, marriage vows do not include a vow to have sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/17 08:30 PM
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But... literally anything could fall under "I vow to love you forever" by that definition. Like I thought that spending money on me was a product of love and showed love, then do I get to say "you vowed to buy me expensive gifts"? And accuse my spouse of "with holding" that from me?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/17 08:02 PM
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What was Jenner convicted of though? Speeding? This guy was convicted of murder and torture...
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/17 07:56 PM
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Except mandatory sex isn't in any vows?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/17 07:50 PM
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Why are you assuming women get divorced after seeing romcoms? That's a huge assumption to make based on absolutely no evidence.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/17 06:09 PM
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What about the sore boobs, morning sickness, hormonal mood swings, etc?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/17 04:54 AM
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But... no cheating would take place if the men weren't chasing either. So wouldn't all cheating be the guys fault?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/17 10:08 AM
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It's not what women "decided", it's what your partner will put up with. Most people are fine with being the hotter partner, but not with their partner fucking other people.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/17 10:06 AM
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Wow I'm sorry that happened to you, I couldn't imagine finding out my partner didn't desire me. However, just because your wife doesn't desire you, doesn't mean wives in general don't desire their husbands. It takes a certain type of woman to marry someone she isn't attracted to and sacrifice her own sexual fulfillment for whatever you are providing her with. Most women couldn't do that and would rather marry someone they truly loved and desired.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/17 01:07 PM
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Taking back a cheater is not blue pill.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/17 03:16 PM
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Okay, show me the data to back up your claims and I'll believe you!
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/17 10:34 AM
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Women date and marry down just as much as men. I have seen women support dead beat boyfriends as much as men support their lazy girlfriends. Secondly, not having a college degree doesn't make you "below" someone who does. A guy can work a job like construction without a degree and make as much as his teacher-wife with a degree. Your arguments are so dumb I love arguing with you. Easy peasy.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/17 01:13 AM
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Afaik, there is no marriage gap between college educated and non college educated men. Is there one? I think there are enough non college educated women that there wouldn't be a significant gap. College graduation rates favor women, but the population is also 52% women, so I think both non college educated genders would be pretty equal.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/17 12:42 AM
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Hmmmm nope. I don't see why non college educated men wouldn't be marriage material. Obviously, not everyone can go to college! It's difficult, it's not for everyone. That doesn't mean you can't make a relationship work.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/17 11:39 PM
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You're saying that non college educated guys are not "marriage material". I'm going to need a source for that. I do not think there is any difference in college educated vs not. Yes they are more likely to get divorced, that doesn't mean they are less likely to get married in the first place.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/17 10:39 AM
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How does not being college educated keep them from getting married? Do you have a source or anything to back up a significant difference in the marriage rate of college educated men vs non college educated men?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/17 04:26 AM
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That's fine...? Not everyone should get married honestly. But just because they don't have a college degree that doesn't keep them from getting married.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/17 03:19 AM
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What do you mean? Everyone can wait until they are 25 to get married. Not everyone can get college educated. You want to make it so only college educated people can get married...?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/17 08:35 PM
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It would only allow people to see more healthy marriages IF those marriages were healthy. What makes you think they would be? Look, we already know if you get married before 25 you double your risk of divorce. That is the biggest way we have decreased marriage rates, by waiting longer to get married. So if that under 25 age group started getting married, we would have way more divorce.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/17 01:04 PM
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How would that promote good marriages...?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/17 01:47 AM
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Why would I promote more marriages? I want more good marriages. Which means, only people who actually want to be married.... if they are getting married for tax benefits or any other incentive, that marriage is not going to last. I want less divorce!
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/17 09:12 PM
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No, that source doesn't include single mothers. It is 40% of married women. Read the source next time! Yes, people are getting married later and later which is awesome. Getting married after 25 cuts the chance of divorce in half. This is a positive, not a negative. We want the divorce rate to be lower, so we want marriages that will end in divorce to be lower, so therefore marriage rates will be lower because those marriages never happen in the first place! This is a great thing! Less kids growi…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/17 08:23 PM
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I work in the medical field so I can only speak for that, but men are MUCH preferred in nursing, a female dominated field. The affirmative action programs to get into nursing school is ridiculous, and hospitals loovee hiring male nurses. I do agree that gender roles still exist, I'm not arguing that. But can a man cry or like ballet or wear pink more than they could 50 years ago? YES! You can't deny that. Pink is now marketed to men, things like Nursing heavily encourage men to come to that mark…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/17 08:02 PM
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Alright I'm on mobile so I'll only reply to your first couple of paragraphs, I'll need to get on my laptop later. Your own source states that the rate of divorce for a husband who works full time is 2.5% and the rate of unemployed husbands is 3.3%. So that's hardly any increase at all... and again, financial stress is the #1 reason to divorce. So it's not that women are divorcing men who SAHDs, it's that having only one income increases financial stress. In the USA there is no such thing as paid…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/17 07:17 PM
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Okay, I am not saying the first male ballet dancer was in 2017. I am saying that boys doing things like taking ballet is much much more acceptable than it was 50 years ago. You can't deny that. In 1950 if a little boy told his parents he wanted to take ballet most parents would have a stern talk with their son about how that's a "girls activity". In 2017, the parents are much more likely to let him do whatever activity he wants. Uh no, feminism fought for everyone's right to work whatever job th…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/17 05:45 PM
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You don't think feminism has questioned gender roles and assumptions? Let me give you an example. 50 years ago, men were "supposed to" go to work and be the sole provider, and women were supposed to cook and play Susie homemaker. Do we still have those rigid gender roles now? No. Because now women can get a college degree in anything they want, get any job they want, and get comparable pay. Men can be SAHDs, they can be interested in feminine things like ballet, and they can be more emotional.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/17 11:00 AM
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I think they will always still exist. Just like I think racism will always exist no matter how much we progress as a culture. There's always going to be people with backwards thinking in any society. I think we just need to always be questioning the roles and assumptions about things like gender and race in our society, and feminism has definitely been at the fore front of that.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/17 11:09 PM
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Uhhh I definitely think Chris Brown is a POS too. No one is arguing he's not a scum bag for beating Rihanna. They do not need to suffer in silence! Every single post on the incel sub has commenters begging OP to seek help, go talk to people, find hobbies, do ANYTHING to help himself and change their situation.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/17 07:52 PM
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Like the article I linked said, only 4% of custody is settled in court. So 96% of parents are either 1. Satisfied with the amount of time they see their kids or 2. Do not care enough about them to go to court. That is what I'm arguing. There is no such thing as male discrimination in the court custody cases. Moms tend to do 2x the childcare even when she works the same hours outside the home as the husband. So a SAHM will be doing even more than that! Which is fine if that's the arrangement made…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/17 07:43 PM
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Nope, I don't hate them at all. Regardless of if someone is a virgin or a slut I wouldn't hate them or even care. It's their mental problems that they let go untreated, their extremely violent actions and plans against women and alpha men, and their praise of people like Elliot Rodgers that cause people to hate them.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/17 06:52 PM
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Haha I'm 22 and very fit. I have played soccer my whole life. Yes, I could fit in an average rowboat without capsizing ;) I'm honestly a red pillers wet dream except I'm smart and want equality for women.... but anyway, will you debate me now??
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/17 06:50 PM
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I'm very confused as to what my gender has to do with this conversation... Let's recap. I am stating and providing evidence that there is no discrimination against men in custody battles. A very small percentage of men even end up in custody battles in the first place because the judge usually splits up custody fairly in the first place, and the men who don't get the custody they think they deserve also don't care enough about the kids to go to court. You're saying that men are oppressed because…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/17 06:40 PM
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Whaaaat did I just read? Ha you keep posting stuff that doesn't seem to be a response to me... this is a debate thread please debate me! Post sources and debate me like I am debating you and proving my point :)
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/17 06:28 PM
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Oh cool... so anyway back to the debate lol. Do you have any rebuttal? If you have a problem with the source you can find your own. Every reputable site will clearly tell you there is no discrimination against men in child custody, so find any source you want!
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/17 06:10 PM
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? I think you accidentally pasted the wrong thing, that's not an article about child custody
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/17 05:59 PM
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http://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/1617115
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/17 05:45 PM
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Lol "you WILL lose" no you won't. The only way to guarantee a loss is to not even try. Look up statistics, when men and women both fight for custody men are not disadvantaged at all. You're literally just making up excuses for men and pretending he did it out of some sense of honor? Lol no, he was too lazy or simply did not want custody of his kids.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/17 05:36 PM
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Lol wut. Yes lawyers cost money... for both people. I don't see how that's oppressive to dads? Just like if mom wants to take you to court it costs her money too! And she's much more likely to be in poverty than the dad, yet she can pay for the lawyer to get custody? So your excuse is that men really do want custody, they just don't seek it out because lawyers cost money? Guess they don't want custody that bad then.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/17 05:29 PM
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Yes, 50/50 custody is the expected norm... why should the dad get 100%? Ugh, of course if the dad doesn't get 100% custody it's divorce rape right?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/17 05:27 PM
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It's actually worse for kids to be brought up in high conflict marriages than with divorced parents. So if your marriage is high conflict, it's still better for your kids to get a divorce. Plus, divorces don't happen in a vacuum. Both parties are responsible for the downfall of a marriage. Happiness is important, you only get 1 life. Don't act like dumping a 60 year old woman after she has raised your kids is the "nice" thing to do, that's waaayyyy worse than cutting off the relationship early a…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/17 05:20 PM
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But obviously it's not hopeless.... there's no bias against dads in court, look it up. And again, you can't be mad at a system "failing" you if you literally don't try at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/17 05:04 PM
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"Most people popping out kids are on welfare" that's what you said. Now you're changing it to "we have a large welfare class"? Those are not the same thing... Stop changing your story. Give me sources for your RIDICULOUS claims :)
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/17 10:59 AM
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Men are told not to pursue custody? Uh huh... if you actually gave a shit about your kid and wanted custody, you would go after it. These guys just don't want it.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/17 10:50 AM
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Hmmm source? "Most people are popping out kids on welfare" no then we would be an impoverished country, not one of the richest in the world bro...
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/17 10:48 AM
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So... the BB who gives his wife love and commitment is fine. Why isn't the homemaker wife who gives her husband love and commitment fine too? Let's be honest, if you marry a virgin then you need to expect starfish sex once a month. If you place a high value on sex, marry a pornstar.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/17 10:34 AM
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Nope, not true at all. I just finished my rotation on L&D so I can actually answer this question! There is no such thing as paid maternity leave in the USA. These women are recovering from child birth and have no income for weeks. Aetna is considered one of the better insurances where I work, it covers 60-80% of the cost, depending on a variety of factors. The average cost of childbirth is 15k, so she's still going to be paying a couple grand out of pocket, even with the best insurance. The only…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/17 10:28 AM
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Child support actually very rarely covers 50% of what it costs to raise a kid. So yeah, these women are stuck living in poverty and scraping by on welfare trying to support their ex husbands kids.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/17 10:24 AM
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Only something like 4% of dads even go to court for custody...... the courts giving the mom more custody just because she's female is a complete myth. Most dads did not do the majority of the childcare, so they don't want to be stuck with doing 100% of the child care for 2 weeks a month. They have their job and schedules, they can't be bothered to get off work in the middle of the afternoon to pick their kid up from school.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/17 10:23 AM
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Apparently I am attracted to betas! I don't really believe in the whole alphas and betas thing, but u/setconsumes told me my boyfriend was a beta. I don't like big muscles (in fact I like guys who fit the description of "scrawny"), i want a boyfriend who can cry at sad movies and would do things like be a SAHD. It's almost like not all women have the same preferences that you're projecting...
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/17 10:19 AM
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What? Incels CAN HAVE SEX. Have you ever read those subs? They don't want to. They think any woman who has ever had sex is disgusting, anyone over 16 is haggard, and they hate women. That is 0% to do with "what women find attractive" and 100% to do with what they find attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/17 09:43 AM
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If a woman decides you're not getting any, move on to the next woman.... You could say the same thing about men. "If a man decides he won't fuck a girl, she's not getting any". Both people have the option to find new mates. In your analogy, how are women Snow? We are not a collective person who sets rules as One...
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/17 03:07 AM
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I understand! I'm asking who President Snow is in this metaphor? Personally, I think the drive to engage in the Hunger Games (have premarital sex) is an innate biological behavior. So that would make Mother Nature the equivalent of Snow. But if you've read the books, you would know that most of the other participants are "bad guys" too.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/17 02:33 AM
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So... we should be mad at evolution for forcing us to play the game of finding mates? Or we should be mad at women for not giving sex equally to all men...?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/17 12:39 AM
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I mean to be fair... he's insane and everything he said in that post is 100% false... so yeah, I think it's safe to dismiss it. I mean come on, we drug little boys into women? Going to school is oppressive, but only for boys? Wut.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/17 12:38 AM
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I agree. So you can think things through, use protection, and still have sex without any future negative consequences! Smart ladies :)
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/17 04:53 PM
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High risk being a guy who doesn't like sex or has hang ups about sex. According to stats.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/17 03:48 PM
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Again, I think the "hate" comes from exploiting someone. Consent starts to become blurry when you add negative consequences, that is the point. If you have someone living a horrible life and the only way out is to move to another country where you don't know the language, don't have a penny to your name, and don't know a soul, you are very vulnerable to abuse and those men are fully aware of that. I understand your reasoning, but I can understand where the "hate" comes from too, people are worri…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/17 03:48 PM
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Yup, exactly.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/17 01:54 PM
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I mean... why would I want to marry someone who cares about n count? I see that as immature + sex negative. I don't care about cutting those guys out of my dating pool. I want someone who wants to have sex as much as I do, I don't want to risk ending up in a dead bedroom. So if he has hang ups about sex, we probably aren't compatible anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/17 10:59 AM
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I feel like it is definitely something young/high school girls have to deal with. I remember being very worried that I would be labeled a slut when I was 15. But, just like I don't worry about my cup size or anything else I worried about as a teen, the obsession with things like that is limited to the very young. Which is why most people who care about n counts are young or virgins themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/17 10:54 AM
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In a lot of media sluts are seen as neutral or even positive things. For instance, in rap songs they glorify slutty behavior and "hoes". At the very least, it's just another term for a woman in some cases.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/17 10:51 AM
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But... you could also say that for like, kids working in iPhone factories for pennies an hour... Did they choose that? Yes, because it makes their life better, it's the best option they have... But we as a society have collected decided that is a human rights issue, those kids are being taken advantage of. Do you think that these kids are fortunate to have that opportunity?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/17 02:17 AM
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What you're describing is an abusive relationship... the woman has very few options and the old rich guy takes advantage of that. He knows that she faces a terrible life in an impoverished country. He can cheat on her, treat her terribly, even beat her. If she gets s divorce before a certain number of years she has to go back to her terrible country, so she basically has to put up with however he treats her. I mean... what kind of relationship does that sound like to you?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/17 01:53 AM
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I would judge anyone who got divorced short of having an abusive/toxic relationship. I think marriage should mean something, so you don't just jump ship whenever thugs aren't perfect. Sex doesn't exist in a vacuum, it's probably indicative of other problems in the relationship which should be worked on instead of divorced. Would you judge someone who got divorced because their SO made less than they wanted?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/17 07:25 AM
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When women tell you how hard it is to get laid, why don't you believe them? I'm glad your overweight friend has an easy experience, but obviously a lot of women still struggle with getting laid due to a variety of factors. Just like men!
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/17 01:28 AM
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Yeah... liking Starbucks means you have "shit for brains". TIL.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/17 11:07 PM
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No those men are hot af. And have lots of money.... I made that point earlier, remember? Oh god lol r/badwomensanatomy. That's literally not how any of that works... your vagina is a muscle. How much you work it out determines the tightness, not the age!
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/17 11:06 PM
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Haha wut. I am a young hot girl. I don't want to take men away from myself? Every porno ever is titled "college girls" for clickbait. You can't tell me that isn't hot lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/17 11:04 PM
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There are guys in their 30s that are attractive, of course. But they are probably not single... but even if they are! Let's say there's a hot, 30 year old guy. Why would a 20 year old girl be into him more than a 20 year old guy her own age?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/17 11:03 PM
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Why don't you date women who don't hurt your finances? Divorce only hurts if you have to pay alimony or child support. If you don't have kids and she makes as much as you, there's no worry of that happening.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/17 12:39 PM
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So this months Time magazine cover was titled "The Science of Marriage" and a section of it addressed this very thing. The short answer: for men, yes it is very worth it. For women, there's no difference. Married men live much longer, have much less incidence of cancer, have lower rates of depression and anxiety, blah blah blah. The more educated your wife is, the more benefits you get. Basically, the magazine attributed this to having someone make the man a home cooked meal vs him eating fast f…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/17 12:38 PM
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Dude, why would I date someone I'm not attracted to? That's not good for anyone...
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/17 02:17 AM
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You said "UMC women choose their lives based on others opinions". That is not true, that is the point in making. We choose to live our lives based on what is best for us in the long run. Honestly, women need to be attracted to the guy they are dating. If they aren't, you get a dead bedroom situation or an affair. It's not rocket science that in general, 25 year olds look the best but women are generally attracted to people her own age. People date their equals in SMV. It doesn't matter how "matu…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/17 10:12 PM
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To clarify, I never said older men are low value. People who date out of their age range tend to be low value. People who go to other ponds tend to do so because there are no takers in their own pond. Particularly if they are dating people much younger than them because it shares a lot of characteristics to an abusive relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/17 06:58 PM
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Not at all. I choose to get an education because it will make life better for me, not based on anyone's opinions. I choose to date men I actually find attractive instead of those who spend money on me because that is better for the longevity of my marriage, not because of anyone's opinions.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/17 06:25 PM
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TIL wanting to date someone your age is "getting caught up in bullshit".
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/17 05:19 PM
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Is that inaccurate? I don't think that's fair to anyone. It sucks for the guy and the girl. I hope women hold themselves to a high enough standard that they marry someone they actually want to and that men are not tricked into marrying a woman for his financial status. Because a few years down the road someone will end up cheating or living a dead bedroom life and there may be kids and other complications at that point, and that's just bad for everyone.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/17 04:31 PM
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Okay, I am not at all trying to dictate what all women should do or aim for. You're clearly talking about a different class of person than I am. If you're happy, I'm happy for you. I am simply stating that the women who run in my circles, higher educated women, would be considerably against dating someone significantly out of their age range. To some degree, it's a status thing. I don't want to be seen out with my partner and he asked "what, why?" So if you don't care about status, and especiall…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/17 04:07 PM
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I never ever said she was less of a woman. However, if a woman is dating a man drastically older or younger than her, it is probably because she has exhausted her options in her area of the dating pool. Same thing for men. It might be that she genuinely finds older men attractive, but this isn't likely. Statistically, most people will never date more than 5 years outside of their own age, unless there is a large disparity of wealth. To me, dating for money is trashy. But I don't speak for all wo…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/17 04:02 PM
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You tell me to stop "shaming" women for dating you. I have never done that. Then you insult my waist size (which obviously you don't know even though I've posted pics of myself on ppd, I'm def not a 16... lol). Is your girlfriend college educated? I'm simply stating my experience and what I have seen from those around me. If you have different experiences, that's fine of course! I didn't say it should be illegal or anything, just that it is very very uncommon and is done by certain types of peop…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/17 03:48 PM
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Uhhh not at all. Let me get this straight, if a guy shares a view point that you agree with it's fine. But if a feminist shares a viewpoint you don't agree with she's being judgmental of other women? Hmm okay... seems like maybe you're just a little butt hurt by reality. Statistically, most people don't date more than 5 years out of their own age. Sorry about the red pill lying to you, women tend to date people who match their age and SMV.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/17 03:36 PM
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Ew, that girl looks trashy af. There are definitely hot red heads out there, why post a pic of a bad dye job and what appears to be a self hair cut?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/17 03:19 PM
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I think this has a direct correlation to trashiness. A 19 year old dating a late 20s means they are probably both low quality people. I'm in my early 20s and hang out with other early 20s people with college degrees and we would not be dating guys any more than a few years older than us.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/17 02:17 PM
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Sources don't support this at all. Divorces don't peak at 5-10 years.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/17 01:58 PM
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But this is so obviously not true. You do not need physical force to have authority over men. I'm sure you have a female boss somewhere up your chain of command, does she beat you regularly to maintain her authority? Of course not.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/17 06:44 PM
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Yeah a slut has a definition - a woman who has (had) sexual contacts with lots of men. How many is a "lot of men"? 3? 13? 30? Depending on who you ask, everyone will have a different answer. Slut has no concrete definition, even a virgin can be considered a slut for kissing a lot of guys. So if you have a phd, you know you aren't an idiot no matter what they say. Oh yeah? Well Ben Carson has an MD and hes obviously a huge idiot... No, a woman won't be called a slut if she has an active sex life.…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/17 06:24 PM
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A virgin is a term with a concrete definition. A slut has no definition, in fact a woman can be both a virgin and a slut depending on what your definition of slut is. A fuckboy is a negative term, you're proving my point. It's like if someone calls you an idiot and you try to defend it by saying it's "just a term". You can have a PhD and still be called an idiot, it just depends on who is calling you one, you can't deny that an idiot is derogatory term. If a woman has an active sex life she will…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/17 05:33 PM
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But sometimes this conversation does not happen, yet the sex was no less consensual. I agree! Just like sometimes people give money away and its not robbery. But if there is any grey area, then it is rape, so that conversation is very important. Just like if there is any grey area on whose money it is and you take it anyway, you can still be charged with theft. Rape laws are consistent with all other laws. If you didn't get a "yes", then its a "no". Rape becomes "a mistake" when she decides, the…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/17 02:06 PM
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the rise of assessign CS on never wed fathers after the 80s + the extension of aid to never wed mothers Your ignorance is showing. Men can get raped, women can be rapists. Oh! Witnesses! The gold standard of truth-seeking Yes, we use witnesses to solve allllll sorts of crimes. Like literally every kind of crime. Why would we suddenly think its inaccurate when it comes to rape? I know just fine how it works, and I know that Blue Pill feminists want - and have been moderately successful at impleme…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/17 01:29 PM
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Dude, you don't have to continually ask someone to make sure they give consent. And no, they don't take any amount of alcohol in the blood to equal rape, typically after a rape kit is run they have eye witnesses that say the victim was clearly too drunk to give consent (couldn't walk straight, slurred speech, unconscious). You clearly don't even know how that process works. Not sure what that has to do with your original comment though? About someone retro activist accusing someone of rape becau…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/17 05:51 AM
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I can't think of a single rape cases this has ever come to light. Can you provide a source of whatever you're referencing? Or are you just 100% making up scenarios to paint women as bad guy's?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/17 05:34 AM
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Yup. Women are shamed by society and told that heir sexuality is wrong, so they feel forced to lie about this stuff and perpetuate the cycle. It's very sad and kills a lot of people's self esteem.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/17 02:34 AM
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Putting your child up for adoption is not "abandoning them" in the eyes of the law. Yes, abandonment is neglect, adoption is not.... Do you have any other source to cite other than "your experience" (which also said you couldn't put a child up for adoption of it wasn't a baby).
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/17 02:31 AM
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That's just not true... that would mean that it's illegal to put your child up for adoption. And that's just plain false. Here's some info about it https://lifetimeadoption.com/birthmothers/placing-older-child-adoption/
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/17 02:05 AM
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You cannot be charged with neglect for putting your child up for adoption. Do you live in the USA?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/17 01:20 AM
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You said a mother could only put her kid up for a few weeks. You call social services or an adoption agency. The child will be placed with a foster family who receives money to take care of it for a few months or years, until it goes to another family or is adopted.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/17 01:12 AM
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Women are the same way. If a man was attractive to her it doesn't matter if there is someone else that is hotter somewhere. She will be content with whoever matches her SMV.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/17 12:16 AM
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You could say the same thing about men...
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/17 11:48 PM
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But they are above average. That's the point. So it's not "anything that moves" it's "anything above average".
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/17 11:34 PM
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But they are literally above average. You just said that. So men wouldn't sleep with anything that moves, they would sleep with anything above average.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/17 11:22 PM
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So... they are just like women then?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/17 11:21 PM
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Uhhh why would anyone call someone a slut though? Why are we shaming women's sexuality?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/17 10:58 PM
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The parent puts it up for adoption or CPS takes them away for neglect... You think I am ignorant of the foster care system?? You literally thought only babies could be put up for adoption -_-
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/17 05:25 AM
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In the US you don't have to find someone to take care of the child... that's what foster care is. A foster family takes the child for a few months to a few years and gets paid to do that by the government (aka taxpayers).
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/17 03:36 AM
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These were meant to shame and degrade. The very term "slut" is a negative one, calling someone a slut is slut shaming.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/17 02:08 AM
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You can put a baby up for adoption at any time... you can put a 10 year old up for adoption.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/17 02:07 AM
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It doesn't matter if it is safe surrender or if it is put up for adoption, both babies go into the foster care system. So a woman can safe surrender the kid, it goes to foster care where the tax payer pays for it until adoption. Or it is put up for adoption a few weeks later and the taxpayer pays for it until it is adopted. I think the parents should be required to pay for the kid so that the rest of society doesn't have to. That is more fair to the kid and society as a whole.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/17 01:02 AM
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Source? I listened to a Radiolab podcast where it is actually really difficult to place brain damaged and addicted babies. Why would it have to be a baby? Kids grow up... there is a high demand for babies, they are being adopted, they aren't what is overburdening the foster care system. It's the kids that come in as toddlers and stay until they are 18.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/17 12:17 AM
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If you went to college, you would know that every single sorority has an unofficial slut shaming name or saying. For example, Zetas symbol was a crown so the boys would say "I'll hold your crown while you go down". I'm not sure why sorority members are seen as sluttier than non sorority members, but anyway, that's one concrete example of slut shaming that still exists.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/17 12:02 AM
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White babies do go quickly. But what if it's not white or a baby?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/17 11:50 PM
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Except for what we should do with the kids. If the mom can't afford to take care of them, what do we do? Nothing? Then we risk them starving, not getting health care, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/17 03:37 PM
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ve repeatedly stated that that whole system wont exist. the governemtn will not be runnign foster care, adoption or assistance for anythign but hardships cases. And I've repeatedly asked you what the alternative is. When a child cannot be financially supported by the mother, what should be done? If there are no programs to help her, and no place like foster care for him to go, what will happen? You said that women donate money to dogs (??) and that should somehow help the kids? Please just answe…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/17 03:11 PM
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Of course. You have not given me any alternative to either 1. Forcing tax payers to support the kid or 2. The kid will starve. If the parents can't/won't financially support the child, those are the only two options. Throwing them into foster care forces the tax payer to raise them until they are 18 or if they get adopted. Our foster care system is already overburdened with kids who never get adopted...
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/17 02:35 PM
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Its not like women are cold and never aroused outside of ovulation, You literally said they were only aroused "for a short time each month" only that the kind of intense independent arousal men can feel at any time only shows up for a few days for women. Wtf, NO. This is not true at allllll. I'm sorry that your exes only felt arousal for you a few days a month, but that isn't normal. Otherwise, married couples would only have sex a few times a month and it would always be on the same days. Obvio…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/17 02:32 PM
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Charity is literally the exact opposite of "forcing" anyone to pay. Charity is voluntary. Thats true, except if the charities run out CHILDREN STARVE TO DEATH. I'm talking about never wed mothers who deliberately choose to make out of wedlock children It takes 2 people to "choose to make out of wedlock children". Mayyybeeee I could agree with you if birth control and abortion were free and extremely accessible, but as I have already out lined in previous comments, that is obviously not the case …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/17 02:12 PM
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What you said: "For girls that intense desire only lasts a short while and only comes up for a short time each month." What the article said: "the weight of the evidence suggests that some women experience a slight-to-moderate libido increase around ovulation" LOL, not quite the same thing... You know men and women actually have similar sex drives, right? Studies show that men and women think about sex for similar amounts of time every day, masturbate in similar amounts (at some ages womens mast…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/17 01:53 PM
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Explain to me why women will "let children starve to death" rather than work to feed them, open charities or exercise their choice not to have them Obviously there are people out there who do work and can still not afford to support their children. Working full time minimum wage comes out to something like 14k/year. I do not think it is possible to support an adult and child on that. Exercise their right not to have them? We are literally talking about child support and divorce, Atlas. Maybe the…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/17 01:47 PM
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What? For girls that intense desire only lasts a short while and only comes up for a short time each month. LOL r/badwomensanatomy Do you have a source for any of that crock of shit you just spewed?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/17 01:33 PM
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No I already said that whole system has to go and no assistance for unwed mothers and no taxpayer support for the children. Zero facilitation for the choice to bear out of wedlock kids you can't afford. Okay so then you are fine with children starving to death? Or..? What is your alternative solution for when parents can't afford to take care of their children?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/17 01:31 PM
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Yes, so when babies are put up for adoption or surrendered the child goes into foster care until it is adopted, if it ever is. That means the tax payer supports the kid until they are 18. Does that seem more fair to you than forcing the parents to pay for child support?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/17 01:03 PM
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Okay so what do you purpose? We don't put the kids in foster care, we don't give the single moms money to take care of them, we don't make the dads take care of the kid, and abortions are expensive and hard to get. So... we just let the kids starve?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/17 08:18 AM
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There is an excess of kids in the foster care system already. Even if moms out then up for adoption, the tax payer still has to pay for them until they get adopted, which some never do. This isn't fair to anyone.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/17 07:26 AM
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Abortion costs a lot of money, there's a lot of red tape around it (24 hour waiting period, traveling hundreds of miles to nearest clinic, etc) and a lot of risks (increased risk of infertility, infection, even death). That's not much of a choice if she can't afford those risks and costs. So... what exactly are her choices? Go through with a risky, expensive abortion or go through with a risky expensive birth? If she can? Great. And you want the guy to have the choice to simply walk away with no…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/17 06:15 AM
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Less birth control = more babies = more unwanted kids and more dads that have to pay child support to... Good idea.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/17 06:04 AM
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Uh, abstinence? Lol
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/17 06:01 AM
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Her options are: abortion or birth. Why should the dad get to take no responsibility at all? You don't want equality?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/17 05:56 AM
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Yikes. Both parents should have equal rights and responsibilities to the child. No one gets to just abandon their kid.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/17 05:55 AM
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Do you think men feel loneliness more intensely than women?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/17 04:33 AM
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That's an OkCupid study... 80% of men on a specific dating site were rated below average. Were they actually below average? We have no way to know since the study didn't go that in depth. But it's safe to say that single men are less attractive than there non single counter parts. Have these men engaged in self improvement and lowering their standards? I doubt it.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/17 12:56 AM
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Please show me this data. No you are arguing that they need hot girlfriends... remember the examples you gave? Fat Kevin James hooking up with hot that hot scientologist? You literally called her hot...
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/17 12:36 AM
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You literally just said feminists whine... in the middle of your whining. There's no way to convince people to find the bottom 20% attractive. Those peoples only chance is to help themselves by self improvement and changing their attitude to be less entitled.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/17 12:35 AM
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But that's not what you're doing lol. Read your last few comments. You're literally just bitching about women not being attracted to the bottom 20% of men...
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/17 11:57 PM
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Uh no. It's by self improvement + having more realistic standards
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/17 11:44 PM
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But.., here you sit, whining and throwing a fit about a very basic concept: attractive men and women get more attention and more leeway. So if trp message is to improve yourself and stop whining about it, what are you doing? It's not feminists that are whining about men not being attractive enough, it's men whining about how women don't find them attractive!
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/17 11:43 PM
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If he's 30 it's a turn off. Regardless of his n count, I prefer younger guys. Like I said, I don't put a ton of weight on n count, but the extremes matter. If a guy has slept with 100 women, that's gross. If he's a virgin that's hot. I think 30 + virgin is pushing the extremes quite a bit. I think anyone, men or women, find innocence attractive. Is a 30 year old virgin going to be innocent? Probably not. He or she has experienced the world, porn, some type of relationships for the last 10-15 yea…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/17 11:40 PM
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Are you serious? In no world does this qualify as a "study".
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/17 11:31 PM
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Niceguys are like abused animals?? Soo... if an objectively unattractive man cannot get a hot girl friend, he is like an "abused animal" and you can't get mad at him for his shitty attitude... uh huh. You do realize if they stopped having a shitty attitude and started having realistic standards, they could get a date, right? They are doing this to themselves. You're the type of person who feels bad for Elliot Rodgers right?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/17 11:23 PM
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Lol I am a woman. I am attracted to virgins. Why do you think you know more about what women are attracted to than I do??
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/17 11:18 PM
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Its not just about sex. Not being noticed by the opposite sex is lonely for anyone. I don't think there are many incels either but they make their anger known...
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/17 11:18 PM
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Why is he 30? My last boyfriend was a virgin at 21. Yes it was hot. I'm not a fan of older guys.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/17 11:16 PM
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Did you even read your own source? This is a conversation: Him: want to bang? Her: oh brad you had such potential. I'm not looking for casual sex Him: coffee then? Her: much better How is that exchange creepy?? Look, I'm not saying hot people don't get more leeway, of course they do. But generally, guys are not demonized strictly for being ugly. There's a lot of negative personality traits that are associated with incels, niceguys, and neckbeards that is why they are demonized. Not looks. Also, …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/17 11:17 AM
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That's not true at all. Just wondering, are you a man? Men seem to not know what women find attractive at all. I'm a woman, so I'm kind of an expert on what I and at least some other women find attractive ;) I don't claim to speak for everyone, but the innocence fetish is probably one of the most common turn ons. The more partners a man has the more valuable he is? HELL NO. N count doesn't factor in a ton with me either way, but if he's a virgin that's hot and if he's slept with a hundred women …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/17 08:50 AM
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That's not true at all. First of all, most people have a sort of "virgin" attraction. Virgins are automatically hotter simply because they have a sort of forbidden fruit thing going on. Innocence is a turn on for a lot of people. Also, don't judge other people's character on their n counts. A mans quality is determined by how many women he's slept with? L-O-L. More like the quality of women he's slept with. This has happened to me before: I was into a guy until I found out he had hooked up with …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/17 08:17 AM
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I mean... 40% of women do make more than their husbands. I don't think 40% of marriages are shrews who throw their providership in their partners face
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/17 08:15 AM
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No they won't lol. It's more of "how do I even know my n count? Why would my partner need to know that?" It just doesn't make sense to most people. Trp is a very small, specific type of people who care about n count. Irl, that shit doesn't come up.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/17 08:14 AM
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Yup. Who knew n count has nothing to do with quality of character??
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/17 08:12 AM
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Alright, so you agree that NiceGuysTM are not being demonized because they are ugly. They are being demonized because they think they are entitled to a hot girlfriend simply because they treat her with basic human decency? It has nothing to do with their looks, it is their attitude towards women that he is allowed to have standards but she is not? You agree?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/17 03:30 AM
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media (every fat kid underdog story), Give me an example. I know of the "nerd gets the girl" trope, but the nerd is always hot, he just has to take off his glasses and brush his hair. But you can't pretend that it isn't out there. "There is someone for everyone!" "Concentrate on yourself and when your not looking for it, that is when it will happen!" Yes... I believe these things are generally true. That doesn't mean "you can be ugly and still end up with a hot partner" "women don't care about l…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/17 10:42 PM
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But I did provide you evidence haha. Remember the article I linked about how happy she is to finally have her first boyfriend? YOU are the one making a claim that she stayed single by choice, so YOU are the one who has to prove that claim. I'm not proving your points for you....
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/17 09:04 PM
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Who the hell is spreading this idea that women don't care about looks? From the time we are kids we know that looks matter. Are the Disney princes ugly or overweight? Of course not. Are models dating ugly men? Of course not. Honestly, this just shows how misogynist these men are. They are allowed to be attracted to hot women, but women aren't allowed to have standards or they are shallow. These men literally think being nice = sex and get angry when that doesn't work out. They are entitled, spoi…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/17 01:17 PM
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They have not "conspired" to stay hidden. The point is that these women are not attractive and their personality is unremarkable, so they are invisible to most people, especially as sexual partners. My example is Susan Doyle. YOU are the one asserting she stayed single of her own free will. If that's true, you'll have to provide me evidence of it. In the article I quoted where she found her first boyfriend in her 50s she says she's lucky to have found him...
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/17 11:03 AM
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I don't have to know everything about her, I know enough to prove the point... which is that some women genuinely do not get attention from men, or anyone. Female incels exist.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/17 10:42 AM
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I didn't say they went I said they would have if they were around now They were around. The middle east has treated women like this for thousands of years. First and second wave feminists had beheadings and shit happen in their lifetimes. There's no great inequality for women now. They have to manufacture them through mispresentations of data and studies Ah yes. These academic studies are faking evidence of sexism! Its all a conspiracy! Men and women have different obstacles they have to deal wi…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/17 09:02 AM
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First wave feminists went to the Middle East to protest against human rights violations? Give me a source please. Fighting for equality is what feminism is. So calling out misogyny is inherently feminist. You don't have to call it feminism if you don't want to identify that way, but that's what it is. You're acting like the only way to be a feminist is to physically go to Iraq and protest. Of course that's false. Any thing you can do to increase equality based on gender, race, or sexual orientat…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/17 08:43 AM
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Dude. She's the one that wrote the comment calling the girlfriend gorgeous. She's obviously not jealous.... how desperate are you to fulfill your revenge fantasy?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/17 08:29 AM
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Alright first of all, who has the time to take off of work, afford a ticket to the other side of the world, risk their lives in a country where they can legally be killed for just being there, etc etc. You're coming from a place of privilege to even suggest that, I'm glad you have the money and time to do that but most women don't have that option. Secondly, let's not pretend like just because sexism is worse in some places, that doesn't mean it doesn't exist in the west. We want equality everyw…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/17 08:22 AM
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I mean, women get stoned in SA everyday, and that's not exactly making headlines over there. Can you even tell me any details about the last woman to be stoned? I know I can't, that's just my reported on... That doesn't mean feminists don't care. What are they supposed to do, fly over there themselves so they can make Facebook posts in real time? That's like saying MRAs don't care about men because there are boys starving in Africa and no one is talking about them. We know it's happening, it's a…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/17 08:10 AM
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It's interesting that you consider blonde hair so important to being hot
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/17 07:47 AM
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What do you mean, when are they supposed to call it out online? Like... find a Muslim guys Facebook and call him out? Or what do you mean? Any time an event happens, there is a huge social media push to bring awareness around the issue. Remember #BringBackOurGirls? Headed by the famous feminist Emma Watson? That was a huge feminist movement about the kidnapped women in the Middle East.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/17 07:39 AM
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Feminists are outraged by conditions in the Middle East? Hence why they tend to want immigration policies to allow refugees into the US. Hence things like campaigning for Muslim rights in the US, like being able to wear or not wear their head scarves. As far as calling out misogyny, it's simply easier to do that when you see it irl. Most feminists in the west will never go to the Middle East, so calling out those guys personally is a little more difficult...
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/17 07:26 AM
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Feminists? I've never heard a feminist use the term breeder... I also don't know of any feminist with a hatred towards SAHMs?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/17 11:50 PM
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I've dated guys my height and just a bit shorter. I think the "must be 6'" is completely blown out of the water by trp. Most women don't want to date guys 8" taller than them! Plus, such a small % of men are over 6' and obviously wayyy more % of men have girlfriends so... logically, it just doesn't add up that height is really that big of a deal.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/17 09:55 PM
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I'm a normal weight/BMI, but I'm considered "thick" I guess, I've played soccer and other sports my whole life so I have big thighs and glutes. What does it for me? Umm idk it's hot. I find athletic guys attractive. Not like football-player-athletic, like cross country-runner-athletic :) I'm definitely not alone haha idk why the red pill thinks there's only ONE way to be attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/17 09:27 PM
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Okay, please give me links to her "normal" pictures. I was under the impression that everyone was pretty... shocked at her appearance... Also, I really don't know much about her, so you'll have to provide me with links to where she stayed single by choice.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/17 09:22 PM
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Give you an example of a woman who doesn't get a lot of attention from men? Well obviously that's hard since I have to give you an example of a celebrity, and by definition celebrities get a lot of attention... But what about Susan Boyle? She was objectively unattractive and timid, and as a result didn't get her first boyfriend until 53 (after lots of fame, wealth, and hollywood make overs" http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-2853877/It-s-early-days-s-nice-guy-Chart-topper-Susan-Boyle-f…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/17 09:09 PM
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I'm sure you do. But just remember that it's a certain type of woman. Like.. gold digger type of women who like you for money and status.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/17 09:05 PM
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But nice guys and neck beards aren't talking about guys who are ugly, it's talking about guys who have bad personalities. For instance, NiceGuysTM are guy's who think women should have sex with them just because they are nice to them. That has nothing to do with looks and everything to do with them being shitty people. Neckbeards are similar, they are guy's who lament about not being able to find a "nice girl" AKA a hot 16 year old virgin.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/17 09:04 PM
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What? Average women can't do this either. Why would a 10 guy fuck a 5 girl? He probably has a sea of options that are 8s, if not a girlfriend that's a looksmatch 10 waiting for him at home.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/17 08:54 PM
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This is hilarious. This is how I picture the conversation going. "How much did that dress cost honey" "Uh... $22?" "Oh okay, I like it" internally yeah bitch spend money on shit I like Her internally lol this dress was $50 and I look hot af You don't control shit unless she literally gives you her paycheck. Does she "control" what you spend money on too since she influences you? ;)
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/17 08:52 PM
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Alright so by that logic you don't get both either. You can either foot the bill, or date unattractive people.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/17 08:50 PM
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No i agree with this person. I literally like my guys to fit the criteria of "scrawny"
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/17 08:48 PM
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You want someone who looks like a porn star? Trashy and busted? Interesting... why wouldn't you go with someone who looks like a model? Or just someone hot?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/17 08:47 PM
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It's definitely a selection bias. The trp says women want money, status, and muscles. So what does trp tell guys to do? Work out, make more money, get status. By making themselves into these types of guys, they obviously attract the type of girls who are into that type of guy. Then they say "see! Awalt!" Not understanding that it is a self fulfilling prophecy.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/17 08:46 PM
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Who said they were attractive? These guys are objectively los SMV, so naturally their mates will be too.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/17 08:39 PM
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Attractive enough? I agree. Hot? No.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/17 08:38 PM
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No they don't? Does everyone like different foods? Yes. Does that mean shit covered pickles is someone's favorite food? No...
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/17 08:38 PM
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Who is they?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/17 08:36 PM
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I don't think it has ANYTHING to do with being childless. Remember, now that women have the option, birth rates are falling drastically. It's probably more loneliness than horniness, which I think is true of male incels as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/17 08:35 PM
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You're completely missing my point. You're trying to justify that every guy is considered hot to some woman somewhere. That is not my point.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/17 02:26 PM
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Alright, I don't really know what your point is anymore. You're moving goal posts.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/17 02:10 PM
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Dude... I'm not saying every guy is attractive. I'm saying everyone has varied tastes. There's no such thing as a Chad, women are not a hive mind who agree on xyz characteristics to be attractive. Every woman likes something different, that doesn't mean every guy is considered hot -_-
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/17 02:09 PM
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Some women do. They are called chubby chasers.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/17 01:45 PM
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Oh okay I gotcha. Well "tall" is the only definable quality there... I mean, "hot" is the entire definition we are arguing, and "popular" is subjective. So, do all women like tall guys? Judging by all the threads on ppd about male height: No. Judging by all the short guys with girlfriends: No.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/17 01:44 PM
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But what is "hot"? Everyone's definition is different, that is my point. My friend thinks bearded guys are hot, but I do not.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/17 01:42 PM
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I'm confused what you mean. The specific stuff being the opposite of hot, tall, and popular? What do you think is the misunderstanding?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/17 01:13 PM
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I mean... I don't think tumblr is a good place to find feminists. 14 year old bronys? Yeah. Feminists? They are probably not hanging out on tumblr, they are (statistically) college educated young adults.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/17 01:11 PM
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I don't see anything like that at all. Plus I thought third wave feminists were sluts? Can you give me an example of how 3rd wave feminism has expressed anger over not getting sexual attention? Feminists are notorious for being slutty or uninhibited, so I can't imagine they are the ones getting upset over not getting sexual attention.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/17 11:56 AM
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I 100% agree that these women exist and they are simply invisible to red pillers/most people. However, I don't see any anger from it. Incel men have many many subs to vent their anger (r/MGTOW, r/incel, etc) but I don't see anything like that for women. I think these women are lonely, but that doesn't turn into anger because they aren't blaming anyone else.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/17 11:46 AM
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The idea that women are only attracted to 20% of men, or that all women like Chads, anything like that. My friends and I constantly disagree on what is attractive! I prefer scrawny to big muscles, I prefer shaved to bearded, I prefer younger looking guys. Obviously, many women disagree and like big burly bearded men. Everyones tastes are a little different! Theres no such thing as a "Chad" because theres no agreed upon ideal man.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/17 11:20 AM
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No one is doing that. I agree, we should not judge people's character by their outward appearance, how many people they have dated, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/17 09:14 AM
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That's everyone... everyone has trouble communicating sometimes, no one interrupts things exactly the same. Is the only miscommunications you ever have only with women? Of course not. Miscommunications aren't gendered. Did you know there's no way to tell by looking at someone's brain if they are male or female? That's how similar we are. With all of our science and technology, we can't tell male and female brains apart.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/17 04:55 AM
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Why should there be? That's not even realistic. All the guys should be Chads and all the women should be virgins?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/17 04:24 AM
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Uhh... I'm explaining economics to you? You're operating like nudes (or sex) are zero sum and they aren't. The guy won't necessarily be satisfied by 1 lady.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/17 03:28 AM
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Well... those relationships have some similar characteristics to abusive relationships. People get angry because they think the old man is taking advantage of an under privileged young woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/17 02:44 AM
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Men and women's logic skills are the same. But I agree, don't judge your worth by what someone else thinks of you/who would fuck uou.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/17 02:44 AM
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How would you like to fix the sexual discrimination of ugly men? Seriously, what do you want anyone to do about that? It's not that feminists don't want equality, it's that you can't make someone fuck someone else.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/17 02:42 AM
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More like that was the reason he came up with to spare his own ego. Let's be honest, even if you lived in LA 6 figures is still plenty of money. Were the women he was chasing making even more money than him? Most women in the medical field are nurses, who are probably making 60-90k depending on where they live and their hours.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/17 02:37 AM
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I disagree. Hot girls nudes are still $20 because the guy wants to see her naked. Like.. there's toonnsss of free porn out there and tons of girls who do post nudes for free (like r/gonewild). Yet there are still porn stars and porn sites who tons of money. Sex is not a 0 sum game. Having access to some sex doesn't necessarily drive down the price elsewhere, because different people have different things to offer.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/17 02:34 AM
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I think its a spectrum, just like literally everything else in life. There are strong men and strong women, and there are weak men and weak women. There are women who are just as strong as most men, and men who are weaker than most women. You cannot know, simply by knowing someones gender, how strong they are. That is why generalizations are so inaccurate, they simply cannot be true for large groups of people. Small, simple generalizations can be true. Large, complicated ones (like about billion…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/17 05:48 AM
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so thats not even a generalization about ALL men or ALL women... Its only about strong men and women... Do you admit you cannot make a generalization about all women or all men? Finish this statement: all men like . All women like . Please, prove to me that you can make accurate generalizations about billions of people.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/17 05:30 AM
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Obviously that's not true... there are some women who could beat the hell out of most men. Have you seen Ronda Rousey or Serena Williams? They would KO 95% of men. There's literally no generalization you could make about all men or all women. It gets 100xs more complicated when it comes to personality traits. Notice how you were too scared to list a personality trait, yet most of trp is alllll about generalizing personalities? The red pill is so wrong, because you CANT generalize all men or all …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/17 05:13 AM
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Yeah I did... I'm not sure what point you're trying to make? Some people want to wait to have sex, some don't. Why is either way wrong? Just live your life the way you want. If you want to fuck quickly then do it, if not then don't. Don't shame anyone for their sex life, or being a slut or a virgin. Either way or anything in between is fine.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/17 04:47 AM
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What generalization would you like to make about all men or all women? Please tell me so I can prove to you it's not true :)
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/17 04:45 AM
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I mean... that doesn't sound like a fulfilling relationship for anyone. Why would I want someone who is only dating me hoping I will put out? Plus, if we aren't sexually compatible I want to know pretty soon. The longer I make him wait, the longer I have to wait too.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/17 04:24 AM
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So....? You re proving my point. Every individual is different. You can't make generalizations based on race, gender, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/17 04:10 AM
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Yeah... women don't need men for that...
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/17 04:10 AM
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What? Individual humans are extremely varied, which means men and women are both extremely varied. Some women are more comfortable holding a gun than wearing a dress, and vice verses for some men.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/17 03:56 AM
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What can women not get without men....? Give me an example.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/17 03:55 AM
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What exactly are you arguing? That some women feel more comfortable waiting for sex? I agree. But some like to have sex quickly, just like some men like to wait and some like to have sex quickly. Neither one is wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/17 03:54 AM
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??? Didn't you just tell me to read the sub..? I'm very confused. Please just logically debate me on this topic :)
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/17 10:13 PM
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I read and commented on that thread... I have read it. I've been subbed here for like a year.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/17 10:02 PM
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That's about the only generalization you can make; physical genitalia. Any sort of personality trait is impossible to generalize. All women like x is NEVER going to be true no matter what x is.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/17 06:00 PM
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Men and women are the same because they are individuals. You can't generalize billions of individuals. I'll prove it to you. Give me 1 generalization for all men or all women and I will find you exceptions. You simply cannot accurately generalize billions of people.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/17 05:54 PM
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That men and women are almost exactly the same. That's a generalization. So my generalization is that there are no generalizations? That individuals are varied enough that there is no way to generalize men and women? You hopefully acknowledge the physically obvious effects of testosterone, but you don't acknowledge the changes to our brain and how it gives us different drives, make us focus on different things, makes us react to our own emotions differently, makes us interpret language different…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/17 05:17 PM
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What generalizations am I making about all humans? When did I deny the effects of testosterone in the brain?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/17 04:34 PM
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Who says they make a man wait to have sex? They may wait until they themselves are more comfortable. They don't just make a man wait because...? They why would they even do that? Women want to get fucked!
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/17 02:43 PM
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Dude what the hell are you talking about? What does a woman need from a man besides sex and emotions? Nothing, she can get everything she needs while being single. Men and women are almost exactly the same. Yes, men have more testosterone, and women are much more sensitive to testosterone. What does a virgin lose more than a high n count person from being raped? I don't understand how you can generalize billions of women and men as all the same... men and women both have a wide variety of action…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/17 09:01 AM
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There are Chads lining the street for every woman? There are 9/10 guys lining the streets for chubby women, 30+ women, women with terrible teeth or acne or anxiety issues? Or is "every woman" just young, fit, attractive women because those are the only women who exist in your world view?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/17 08:54 AM
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How? Men came up with the idea that "women like assholes", not women... Men needed a reason as to why women didn't like them, and they like to pretend that women aren't allowed to have physical standards like men are.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/17 08:42 AM
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Honestly, things like dating apps or blind dates suck. You have basically just met someone who you have nothing else in common with besides you both don't want to be single anymore. So I would recommend joining some sort of social hobby. I started going to trivia nights at a bar, ended up also going to their stand up/open mic nights, and now I know basically everyone who goes to that bar. Just find something you like to do, make it into a social event or hobby, and try to meet others into the sa…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/17 08:40 AM
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Okay. So you want a girl who is feminine... as in, isn't mean to you when she's better than you at shooting guns? That's such a weird way to think of femininity vs masculinity. To me, that's just being a good sport. I didn't realize that was feminine to some people.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/17 04:23 AM
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So you consider being a dick a masculine attribute? And being nice a feminine one? Interesting.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/17 04:18 AM
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Has the "grace not to show you up" what does that mean? You want her to like.. let you win, if y'all go out shooting or whatever?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/17 03:58 AM
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Same.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/17 03:57 AM
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Why do you respect men for their poor self control, but with women it means they are untrustworthy?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/17 07:31 PM
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So how do you live your life? You don't have sex unless you're in a committed relationship? You've never had a ons or done something slutty? I just do not see how having a high n count makes you somehow less of a good mother or less of a good person... I don't see the correlation at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/17 07:04 PM
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Yes of course it is. Assuming a woman doesn't know something about baseball, video games, etc. just because she's a woman is misogynistic.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/17 08:02 AM
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You hear suffering from hot women getting all the casual sex they want? Uh huh... sounds like such a terrible life... If they didn't want to be hoes, they wouldn't be.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/17 07:32 AM
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This whole response is amazing!
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/17 07:30 AM
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I mean.. he wasn't hitting on her though, they were already on a date. It depends on what "insisted" means. Like did he grab her face and go for it anyway? I would say that's a big red flag. But if he just said "dang, I really wanted to kiss you"? That's kinda cute. I think these types of things really really depend on context, it can easily be a red flag or it can be a playful courtship thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/17 07:20 AM
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https://www.google.com/amp/s/fivethirtyeight.com/datalab/how-many-women-earn-more-than-their-husbands/amp/ It is true. Why is that sad? These men aren't in denial at all. They seek out women like this... they specifically want to date young, sexually liberated women by using their money and status. Both partners know exactly what they are doing.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/17 01:29 AM
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If my friends were dating an extremely wealthy guy, like... flew her to Italy on his private jet rich, that would definitely be a plus. And if the guy was completely broke that would, conversely, be a small negative too. But of course, if the Private Jet Guy didn't make her happy or was an asshole I would encourage her to end things. And if Broke Guy made her very happy and didn't negatively effect her life by being broke, I would be supportive of that relationship. So I would say in my social g…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/17 08:16 PM
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Those type of women are a very small minority though. 40% of marriages have the wife being the bread winner, so clearly they don't care about marrying a rich guy. Plus, I think the type of woman that values money like that wouldn't necessarily seek out 1 sugar daddy/rich hubby. I see that type of woman as someone who would make porn, be a stripper, or just do things that make it clear she sees sex and relationships as transactional, and then settles down with the hubby who clearly gives her that…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/17 08:12 PM
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I'm so confused. You think all women are stacys or you don't? Because you stated both things. People match up with their SMVs. So 6s match up with 6s and that's what they are attracted to. Are you only attracted to 10s? Neither are women. Men and women both need validation, no one thrives in a vacuum. If women wanted validation from random men, they could just walk down the street and get cat called or dress extra slutty at a bar. She doesn't need to give up her income and independence for that.…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/17 07:55 PM
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Hmm I don't think anyone is attracted to a provider. It's definitely a good trait, like how being a good mom is a good trait, but it doesn't make me want to fuck you... does that make sense? You still need to be attracted to someone for anything romantic to happen with them. If you just get along well or respect them a lot, then that's just a friendship.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/17 07:45 PM
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So you're bisexual? The top one is for men and the bottom is for women?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/17 07:37 PM
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Validation doesn't mean anything if it's coming from someone you don't respect or care about.... Most men aren't Chads, but most women aren't stacys. Women don't need men for anything. Why would a woman financially support a man + be committed to him (not fucking Chads) if she's not getting anything out of it? That just doesn't make sense. She can find someone she IS attracted to and marry them.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/17 07:36 PM
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You need to be attracted to someone to have a relationship with them.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/17 07:30 PM
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So what is his status? It's what our peers think of him right? So yeah, if our mutual friends think he's creepy, racist, an all around bad guy, etc. then that's going to be a huge turn off. I care what my friends think because they want the best for me and might be able to see something I don't or might know him better. I also don't want to be the girl dating the creepy/racist/whatever guy. And if my friends (or our mutual friends) have a high opinion of him, I'm going to like him that much more…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/17 07:15 PM
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Why do you think men end up married to women who aren't attracted to them? Why would women willingly choose to be in a marriage where they make more money than the man and aren't even attracted to him? That makes 0 sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/17 07:01 PM
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Except not at all. Are the ultra rich immune from the SMV? In some cases, yes. But obviously most women do not match up like that (40% of married women are the bread winners) and most men do not have near enough money to be able to use it to get women.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/17 06:20 PM
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Oh okay so you're only talking about a certain type of woman. Do model women want model men? Yes, and why shouldn't they have them? People match up by looksmatch.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/17 05:36 PM
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Rejected by who? Who are these perfect women who can reject every guy except the gods?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/17 04:12 PM
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Women make shit up? Dude... walk down a sidewalk in any major city. I was in Austin last weekend and my friends and I walked maybe 30minutes to breakfast. We got cat called probably a dozen times. Just because it doesn't happen TO YOU doesn't mean it doesn't happen. That's like saying "I'm not hungry, how could there be starving kids in Africa"
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/17 04:05 PM
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The red pill was literally created for men who have a hard time attracting and keeping women?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/17 03:49 PM
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You can be objectively attractive and still harass people -_- you know that. Sexual harassment isn't about trying to get laid, it's about control. No guy has ever gotten laid from yelling "nice tits" out his car window. These types of men get off on making women uncomfortable and reminding women they they are constantly leering at them and there's nothing women can do.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/17 03:46 PM
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By making him wait, that is deceitful and manipulative? If a girl doesn't have sex immediately, she is manipulating him.... uh huh.... No. They BOTH have the right to say no, at any time, for any reason. If he doesn't feel comfortable, he doesn't have to say yes just because he said yes first... that makes no sense. Both partners still have the ability to say no 100% of the time, no matter what. Nothing she can do will take that away from him.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/17 02:48 AM
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What? I'm not talking about any crime ever. I'm specifically talking about why younger women are more skeptical of men. In crimes where men target women, younger women are more vulnerable than older women.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/17 02:36 AM
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The bbw exists because it's hot. I mean I'm a straight girl, but I get it. It's big tits and ass and a lot of jiggling... add a hot face, and I see the appeal. If it was just about what was achievable, there would be an ugly people fetish.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/17 02:34 AM
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Oh yeah? Older women get raped more often than younger women? TIL.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/17 02:33 AM
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Nope. Feminists don't blame white men, it's not one genders/races fault. It's our whole society, we don't live in a vacuum there's no one we can point to to blame. Women also perpetuate gender stereotypes, black people perpetuate racist stereotypes, etc. Feminism is simply critically examining our gender and racial differences. So of course, we recognize that white men make up the huge majority of Congressmen, Fortune 500 company CEOs, etc. We simply recognize their privilege in society, we don'…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/17 02:17 AM
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Wear it on your ring finger! That would work for me at least.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/17 02:03 AM
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But relationships aren't like jobs at all. There are no rules or fail safes in a relationship. There's no HR, there's no recourse to getting fucked over. In a job, all benefits are defined and largely unchanging. In a relationship, benefits are constantly changing. You simply cannot accurately compare a job and a romantic relationship. So, tell me in clear terms, how is she gaining any "control" by not wanting to have sex immediately?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/17 02:02 AM
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Hmmm I don't know how well known asexuality is, or how to bring it up nonchalantly to a stranger. Like you can bring up your homosexuality by saying you have an SO, but I don't know how you can bring up being asexual...
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/17 02:00 AM
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Well duh. Younger women are more vulnerable + have more dudes after them. They should be more skeptical.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/17 01:55 AM
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Of course not. Why would having a sister make you less sexually interested in me? If I'm trying not to lead you on, you need to give me a clear sign that you are not interested in order for me to not have my guard up. Say you're gay, have an SO, whatever, just make it clear that you're not into me.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/17 01:25 AM
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Wait wait wait. You're talking about trying to change someone's mind so they will date you. That's not what I'm talking about at all. Yeah I agree, if someone isn't initially attracted to your physical appearance, they probably never will be. And obviously, you wouldn't want to date someone who isn't attracted to you. Im talking about not coming off as creepy. That doesn't have a ton to do with your appearance, just be hygienic. Personality is what is really going to dictate "creepiness".
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/17 01:23 AM
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It's sad to me that you think of yourself as being valueless or that you're a creep :/ don't put yourself down or assume others thing negatively about you.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/17 01:19 AM
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Feminist here: what the fuck are you talking about?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/17 01:17 AM
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I agree. If a guy is roughly my age, and just starts talking to me out of nowhere, I will pretty much assume he's trying to flirt.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/17 01:17 AM
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So I guess the answer to your question is "no, men are not assumed to be creeps. When there is a dangerous situation present, women tend to be more skeptical of men".
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/17 01:16 AM
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I'm much more at ease when a guy brings up his SO in a loving way. Ie "wow I love that shirt" could make me a little uneasy of a random guy, but "my wife would love that shirt" just makes me want to tell him about what a great deal the shirt was. I'm 10x more comfortable. ***as long as he is in no way putting down his SO.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/17 01:14 AM
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Wut. You can care about more than 1 thing. Personality matters a lot, but looks matter too. And if you're just meeting a stranger on the street and striking up a conversation? Looks matter a lot more.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/17 01:12 AM
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No matter how attractive a guy is, the second he sexually harasses me he becomes a 0. That's why it is impossible to be validated by a creep.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/17 12:24 AM
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How is she gaining any control? She's not making them do anything to have sex...
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/17 12:16 AM
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I mean.. this is a debate sub. This is what we are debating. Red pillers believe in hypergamy, which doesn't exist because... how could it? Why would a 10 man date/marry/fuck a 6 woman? Who are the 10 women marrying/dating/fucking? So it's just an observation. Red pillers have harsh criticisms of women, and do not want to acknowledge people end up with equal SMV mates.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/17 08:06 PM
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Yeah, for some reason it seems like the less sex you have, the higher your standards. It's like how incels only want a hot, submissive, 16 year old virgin. You would think an incel would be willing to fuck anything but ¯_(ツ)_/¯ for some reason that's not how it is. So red pillers, who are notorious for having trouble with women, have much higher standards for some unknown reason. It's a weird phenomenon. I'm guessing it's a defense mechanism. Like they get rejected by women, so now they automati…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/17 07:53 PM
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That's not really the point, because they aren't using their penis either. It's just funny how red pillers swear up and down that hypergamy is real, because they only see ugly women. They think the majority of women are ugly and somehow, magically, these "ugly" women pull "male models"
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/17 07:49 PM
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I agree, it's hard to get a relationship. But once you have one, you can have lots of sex for months or years. Where as if you get a ONS, you're only going to have sex once.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/17 01:09 PM
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Wow this is so inaccurate. You're assuming all sex happens through ONS. That is not the norm at all. Most sex happens in a relationship. There's also some stat that says less than 1% of single people have sex more than once a week, but 50% of married people do.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/17 12:22 PM
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Yeah I cant believe this is a question
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/17 01:07 PM
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Dude tag that shit as nsfw, not cool.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/17 01:07 PM
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Then encourage men to not be thirsty.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/17 06:38 AM
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BMI is the same for both genders bro. You're stretching.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/17 06:37 AM
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If you don't want to date her, then don't. That's not fat shaming to have preferences. We match up with our equal SMV. So if you don't want to date someone ugly/fat, don't be ugly/fat. You are not entitled to a large pool of attractive women.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/17 12:03 AM
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Are you serious? I hold people's shit all the time. I ask my friends to hold my drink while I pee. If I didn't I would be leaving my drink alone... that's dumb. How is it disrespectful at all?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/17 02:22 PM
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