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It's literally a meme that news articles complain about "running out of marriagable men". This is literally what feminism wanted.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/21 01:34 AM
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Wrong. Its because men who adopt feminine characteristics are seen as freeloaders without providing the ability to give birth. No one minds women doing easier, lower paying jobs because their value is elsewhere. For men their value is the job. People scold women for delaying children the same reason they scold men for staying home and playing videogames: They're failing to meet the gendered division of labor.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/21 01:33 AM
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Okay I'll make it tweet sized. Women didn't own property or work. Yes they did. But even if they didn't it doesn't prove oppression. Women couldn't vote. Doesn't matter. Most men couldn't vote either until they fought for their country. Women got it for doing nothing. Voting doesn't prove oppression.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/21 06:05 PM
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Why?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/21 05:43 PM
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I didn't say "regret" getting an abortion I mean being significantly emotionally affected by it. It's the equivalent of saying "99% of passengers don't regret deploying airbags in car accidents." Well, obviously deploying an air bag is better than not. But it's a scenario one should avoid in the first place. Most pro-choice people also want to subsidize contraception as well. A more accurate question would be "Do you regret getting pregnant in in first place?" Obviously you'll get a different re…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/21 05:42 PM
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So at one point women couldn't vote. Men didn't get universal male suffrage until after WW1. The justification was that men should be allowed to vote about the wars they were dying in. In other words, voting for men came with a corresponding obligation to die for the country. https://commonslibrary.parliament.uk/1918-centenary-votes-for-some-women-and-all-men/ Women got the vote in 1918 just because they asked for it. A lot of men probably could have skipped the draft and given up their franchis…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/21 05:25 PM
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Women's and men's relationship can't be described as oppressor or oppressed. There's never been a time when we lived in separate societies like Christians and Muslims or something. That Hegelian mind disease has no place outside of Imperial Germany. As for "controlling men's conversations" well how about the "rule" against asking a woman her age? You've heard of that one maybe? Men generally do things for women when asked (even when the request isn't logical or prudent). That line of credit has …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/21 10:32 AM
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In other words... you support the Patriarchy?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/21 10:26 AM
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This is a good post OP and it shouldn't be downvoted. You're listing many of the logical problems that arise from viewing people via "group" attributes before the actual person in question. Both sides need policing. And I don't think it's going to end well.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/21 09:53 AM
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He's a sign of worse things to come.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/21 09:31 AM
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That may be medically true but abortions can be traumatic for all concerned. I've had two women tell me in no uncertain terms that if she got pregnant she would have an abortion and we would no longer be seeing each other: "I couldn't look at our kid the same knowing about the one that came before." Liberal women mind you. I'm pro choice but I really dislike seeing political freedoms being treated with flippancy. Glibness ruins it for the rest of us.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/21 09:27 AM
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Another patriarchy advocate I see.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/21 08:28 AM
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No, men aren't taught to self-sacrifice or serve society or any greater good. And no, men "don't love women to pieces". Okay. I'll tell the army they don't need to keep doing this shit then. British recruitment posters changed in tone, from appealing to an individual’s honour to ‘mobilisation by shame’. Savile Lumley’s famous poster of 1915 depicted two young children asking their father about his military prowess after the war: ‘Daddy, what did YOU do in the Great War?’ The emotional blackmail …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/21 07:52 AM
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And that alone closes any conversations about men being self-sufficient. How can one be self-sufficient if they can't live on their own? Because it means the exact opposite of what you mean. The word "self" and "sufficient" have opposite meanings for men and women. Women exist in the social space, men exist in the objective space. Women "living on their own" and men "living on their own" mean completely different things. Women are never alone. To be a woman is to be part of a collective. All wom…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/21 09:05 PM
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I mean I've been following along quoting every sentence in my replies except the last few. I do actually want to get to the bottom of this if I am totally out to lunch so you'd certainly help me out. Anyways I'll respect your time. Happy trails.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/21 07:16 AM
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Could you quote please?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/21 07:03 AM
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I know I want to know why do you disagree? Lol Certainly you've got a reason to be standing your ground like this.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/21 07:02 AM
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You just told me what you thought but not why you believed that. You think women earning more is going to make women indifferent to their spouse's incomes. Conversely I'm telling you it ain't like that. 99% of men were poor in history and we didn't give a shit about women's wealth. Why would it change now?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/21 06:55 AM
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Then how do you justify your above conclusion?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/21 06:53 AM
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Where do you fall in the nature nurture debate? I think that's a more productive question.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/21 06:51 AM
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Lol you have cause and effect flipped. You think its: Marriage laws were invented -> therefore women want providers. No. Wrong. Its: Women want providers -> therefore marriage laws were created. Cause then effect. Your version is basically Engel's Materialist theory of history. I've already shit talked Prussians in my last comment though. Think about it, men have been poor too. Do we go around trying to pick up rich women? No. We respond to being poor by earning money not marrying into it. And t…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/21 06:41 AM
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Women still want men to be richer than them. It's not going away.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/21 06:15 AM
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It's not outdated. It's what women want and it's going to stay that way.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/21 06:08 AM
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Men have supported women with 100% of their income for all of time. After no fault divorce men were basically told to pay for some other dude to bang your wife. Men have started to walk away from marriage. Conservatives call them "not-real-men" and Liberals call them "Misogynists". There are almost no cases of women having to pay for a man ever. The one in Florida was fought tooth and nail by feminists.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/21 05:57 AM
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Gee whiz. You must be a Misogynist.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/21 06:58 AM
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That's not how the laws are written. 50/50 can mean debtors prison and his wages garnished for 2 decades. Women aren't going to not take benefits handed out to them. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w\_\_PJ8ymliw
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/21 04:05 AM
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Because you’re reaching, simply put. Prove it. Stop telling me tell me how. If I'm dumb I want to know. Men are not raised to be caretakers as women are... Duh. I’d argue that women’s existence has pretty much always been about the needs of men, especially in our cultures. Yeah because men love spending twice their income on a ring and their parents retirement on a wedding. It's not like Jewlery and big wedding bashes were celebrated by royalty for hundreds of years! No it wasn't women's, famous…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/21 04:03 AM
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Not in the least. What do we get from her career? It's not like we'll ever stop working. And she can withdraw her money at any time and we have no way of enforcing otherwise either socially or legally (not in the way she can). In fact all it really represents is a potential negative. Whatever money she earns we must at least be at 1.0x or on track to exceed her by at least 1.5x if we expect her to stay in the relationship. Dating a girl that makes more than you is like buying a car at 20% intere…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/21 01:08 AM
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I mean in proportion to other factors. Guys don't care about your career for exmple. It doesn't even blip. Major turn on or deal-breaker for women though. I have multiple women say to me on first dates they went out with me cause I was a pilot. I could care less what they did. There is nothing wrong with the $400 dishwasher. My current SO is that model. She's super smart and loves talking theoretical stuff with me. It's intense and you need to have a lot of energy for it. Some guys just want to …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/21 12:32 AM
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I'm saying your standards of behavior aren't applicable to men. Normal men don't care about the hygiene stuff you do because our reason for existence (serving the needs of women) doesn't require it and in fact diametrically opposes it. These are just basic facts you have to accept about gender or just live in delusion. Why are males perspectives about their own motivations so irrelevant to you? Who is supposed to tell you when you're wrong lol?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/21 12:09 AM
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I didn't say they didn't value looks but in comparison to men it's not very much percentage wise, for either short or long term relationships. You need to go read about people transitioning to male getting testosterone shots and vice versa. It's wild. Basically one part is they want an easy lay. The other part is they don't want to have to impress a chick who knows more than them. It's basically like getting a $250 dishwasher that runs every day vs a $400 dishwasher with Bluetooth and self clean…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/21 11:58 PM
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There is a lot of projection both ways regarding what the opposite gender finds attractive and I don't expect a perfect signal. Looks matter kind of but men project their own visual attraction onto women and women project their (much much lower level) emphasis onto Men. The Incels are Confused one way (omg my chin is short!). Feminists are confused the other (I got a PhD why aren't guys lining up for me?). Men emphasis visuals, women emphasis social status and both project their views onto the o…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/21 08:14 PM
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Men are quite aware that skin care is important in attracting women. It's not more important than money or strength or charisma or confidence. Men's physical appearance isn't that important. My girlfriend is Bi and she can seduce straight women no problem because it's about how you make them feel. We don't read romance novels for this reason. But your point stands. My rebuttal is that it only becomes a value for men once women indicate that they want men to do it. Then it's just like having mone…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/21 07:40 PM
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This is exactly what I'm talking about! "Men make up 90% of workplace deaths, and that's why I can't work in a store, it's too dangerous!" Working in a store doesn't get you the social status and money needed to keep women around short or long term. Being a wagie is all cost no benefit. That's why every male in my social group became a daytrader betting what little money they had on retarded stock options. There's a chance of differentiating themselves from other men. Go look at the nature of th…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/21 07:28 PM
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It's the most fundamental, metaphysical male/female difference. Men are outer oriented, women are inner oriented. Men's conversations are about external things (ideas, events), women's are about how things affect them (feelings). You should read this book. It should seriously be considered to be put on the sidebar. How my skin feels only affects me. No one besides me cares about that. We care about how we affect the external world. Especially when those effects benefit women or society as a whol…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/21 06:38 PM
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I see. Then I think my point is only tangentially related: That the avoidance of the level of care/products men use is women caused. Women need tough men. Men by definition can't be as sensitive as women and be men.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/21 06:21 PM
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I took your meaning as the exact opposite as if you were implying men were simply avoiding women's standards of hygiene for no reason. It's a common theme in this thread.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/21 06:18 PM
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No buzz intended. I took a different meaning is all I think.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/21 06:15 PM
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No your base is fine but your route up the mountain is wrong. Why would someone not even be aware that better options for care products even exist? Go read the Prince and the Pauper. People from different SES use different languages. Poor people don't know what creme frasiche or a shallot is. Men are not at the same level of women in Maslows hierarchy. It's the only way civilization can work.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/21 06:12 PM
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That doesn't matter. The point is that the social forces that existed 150,000 years ago still exist. Men still make up 90% of workplace deaths. Men travel for work. Men do more 160% overtime on average. What's happened now is that the jobs Men used to do went overseas. On the one hand it's left Men with lot of free time but it's also leading to male suicide and substance/videogame addiction. The demand for that provider/protector role by women hasn't changed. The economy changed and now everyone…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/21 06:08 PM
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You're so close but so far.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/21 05:59 PM
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Women consider it ''meh'' some even dread it, theres always that huge pack of girls that we all witnessed that are ''passive'' in PE, would do anything to avoid it. It's amazing how universal that is haha
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/21 05:57 PM
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No, they don’t, because most people assume that the woman is responsible for the house. I have my own place and I clean specifically to make my girlfriend comfortable, not myself. At the same time, men dominate the higher paying professions and women’s work is undervalued, adding incentive to “choose” this option. Maids, daycare workers, elementary teachers, receptioniats, and servers start low but can be middle income ($27,000). Nurses, CPAs, event planners, and dental hygienists can make $60-$…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/21 05:49 PM
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Do men have to choose either a career or a family? Why should women have to? We choosen careers instead of a family since the first caveman left to fetch a mammoth. I was a pilot and 93% of pilots are men. On average I was gone 25 days a month. Most jobs that require separation or social isolation are done by men. Men are socialized to do these jobs because the product is more valuable than men intrinsically. The tolerance for discomfort is higher among men because it has to be. So men don't reg…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/21 05:36 PM
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You literally just described patriarchy.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/21 05:29 PM
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That isn't what my main point rests on and so granting you that it doesn't change my argument. People can't impose values just from some Platonic realm devoid of circumstances. You can't say "Men are dumb for not taking care of themselves like women do." When men's purpose is not to care for themselves period. It's like saying a Honda civic is a bad vehicle because because can't move gravel like a dump truck. But this hill is actually pretty helpful so I'll fight over it. The stereotypes used to…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/21 03:55 PM
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You say that's crazy and yes it is crazy. That's because your premise is wrong. If the conclusion is false then you have to check the premises: A) Privileged people take care of themselves and live longer and happier. B) Men don't take care of themselves and therefore are unhappy. C) Men are privileged. Conclusion: Oh well all three of those can't be true that's just so they're just crazy. Well clearly one of the premises you hold is false. The fact is you project female socialization and priori…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/21 03:25 PM
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Taking into account stats for life expectancy and that loosing a partner affects men more than women, I think it's fair to say that marriage does have a positive effect on men's health. As for life expectancy I've ready said: Marriage is only for healthy men to begin with. Men make up most of the bottom of society. As for marriage affecting men more than women afterwards: I have literally spent 10,000 words explaining why that is and why it literally implies the exact opposite of what you think …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/21 02:07 PM
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There are a few points I want to add though. First of all, yes, correlation doesn't mean causation and we could guess that more married men tend to have their shit together. Can we say for sure that marriage didn't improve their quality of life though? Longer life might be a result of both things, not just one. That's true but you'd need to prove it is. It's not on me to prove it isn't. One of the reasons me and my gf aren't married is because I need to save for a down-payment for a house still.…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/21 12:28 PM
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Sources for the above: https://thepointsguy.com/news/the-real-reason-there-are-so-few-female-pilots/ https://www.computerweekly.com/feature/Men-more-likely-to-move-for-jobs https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Karoshi https://www.nippon.com/en/japan-data/h00523/study-finds-japanese-men-do-1-6-times-as-much-overtime-as-women.html https://theconversation.com/skilled-blue-collar-jobs-are-growing-though-women-arent-getting-them-112660 https://indiancountrytoday.com/archive/was-american-football-invented-be…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/21 03:38 AM
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Exactly, women now have to do these jobs outside of the home therefore it only makes sense that they share in-home duties with their spouse. Sorry what are you agreeing to? "Exactly" what? As for housework you still aren't understanding: Men have the equivalent of a 3rd world standard of "tidyness" in their own spaces. Women have a bourgaeoises, 1st world standard. Men. Have. Bigger. Problems. Women want the house cleaned to a woman's level of comfort. Men exist below that level because we have …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/21 03:36 AM
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Thanks but I doubt it will help.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/21 09:21 PM
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Wrong. Wrong. Wrong. Wrong. Wrong. Men who are used to subsisting are preparing for married life. What do you think a midlife crisis amounts to? Looking back and seeing what consumption he gave up. That consumption was his economic freedom. That's why a midlife always manifests itself as an extravagant purchase. That's why this ad hit so close to home it had to be nuked from orbit. Everyone immediately got it. That's where the damn red sports car stereotype comes from. This is a human being who …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/21 07:38 PM
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If you understand that 95% of workplace deaths are male then it's obvious why this is the case. Imagine me, a Bourgeoise Canadian flying to Sierra Leone and lecturing the black peasants mining the minerals for my smart phone on how messy and unhygienic they are and how poor their nutrition is. It would seem a little hypocritical. It would seem a little unkind. It would seem a little tone deaf. It would seem a little ridiculous. It might even seem... toxic. The truth is that the lives men and wom…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/21 07:20 PM
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"Men who own private jets make more money than men who don't." Shiit let me buy a Gulfstream and I'll be a billionaire in no time! (Or women only date and marry men who have their shit together to begin with and your statistics prove the exact opposite of your point.) Lastly the concept of "taking care of yourself" doesn't apply to men. That is a female concept. There is no point of comparison: Men DO the taking care of. His wealth, his friends, his possessions, his business, his education, his …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/21 06:16 PM
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But if there were laws that said every company had to enact such safety regulations then every company would do it and nobody would go bankrupt. We did that with multiple industries and they were then moved overseas. Now the factories need suicide nets. Gender warfare is not resolved by class warfare; It's built on the same dialectical fallacies. While I disagree on regulations, I like the cut of your jib.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/19 07:45 AM
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