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CMVZombombaby/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/21 11:47 PM
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The kind of people I attract as friends are the same kind of people I want as partners, just with the romantic attraction. If that bar is too high, then that's just simple incompatibility.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/24 01:28 PM
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I have the same standards for friends as I do for partners. Treat me with respect, kindness, empathy, and support me. And I will do the same for you. If the bar for my girl friends is too high for you (which my friends and former bfs have had no problem meeting btw) then maybe you're not boyfriend material.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/24 12:10 PM
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It should. I don't know of a legal scam but surely you do. There's plenty of legal scams. I guess I'm a better educated on what qualifies due to my credentials but being a victim of a legal scam is surprisingly pretty common. He never said he hung out with them. Assuming facts not in evidence. Anyone you know happen to know of, I guess we can attribute their shitty behavior to you as well. If he knows them enough that he knows their intimate sex lives, I doubt they're just observing from a dista…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/24 09:39 PM
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Yeah, and people can legally scam the elderly too. Ask my grandfather. That'll teach him to be susceptible to liars, I guess. Again, if you hang out with people who perpetuate shitty behaviour, don't be surprised if you are affiliated by default. I agree, it's not illegal to lie to get sex (largely as there are some clear coercive rape arguments that have been held up in courts of law too). Is it legal to be an asshole? Also, largely yes. That doesn't mean we have to respect you for it or be for…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/24 08:47 PM
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I don't expect another adult human being to parent another adult human being. But if you hang out with someone who is scamming old people out of their pensions, don't be surprised if you're lumped in as a bad apple as well. I don't think OP needs to wag his fingers at other adult men and their behaviours. But it feels weird he'd choose to do it to their victims instead.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/24 08:32 PM
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I think casual consensual sex shouldn't be judged. However, the lying to attain it and being a shitty person just to get your dick wet should he judged accordingly. And I think that applies to anyone, in general.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/24 08:21 PM
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No, he just knows and affiliates them and clearly blames the victims for the actions of the men he knows aren't being good people in general. It still reflects poorly on him.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/24 08:20 PM
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Right!?! Like, the perpetual victimhood of people who brag about surrounding themselves with shitty people is honestly astonishing. I wouldn't blame anyone for being the victim of a lie. Why are women exempt?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/24 07:20 PM
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I mean, these are your friends. That says more about you than the women they choose to lie/manipulate/steal/use/etc. in my opinion. Consensual sex is fun. It's weird how you're idolizing men who have to lie to get it though.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/24 06:27 PM
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Egalitarian is a term that tends to only reference economic equality and is only used when discussing economies. Feminism is the correct term to use for a reason.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/24 12:08 PM
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Honestly, the only person you should love unconditionally is your child. You should have healthy boundaries with other people and standards of acceptable ways to be treated. That's not a man or woman thing. That's an individual thing. People can suck. That's not a gendered issue. Love should never be unconditional. I probably would stop loving my husband if he made a negligent mistake and killer someone out of carelessness. I clwould stop loving him if he was a pedophile. I would stop loving him…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/24 12:28 PM
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Statistically speaking, men are more likely to get custody (especially with a history of domestic abuse) than women WHEN THEY ACTUALLY APPLY FOR IT. Most custody cases are settled in mediation where the man chooses not to be primary parents and additionally, tend to phase out visitation over time.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/24 09:22 PM
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I work in physical trades and have my whole life. What are your qualifications? Have you asked women why they don't seek those jobs to begin with?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/24 09:21 PM
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I work in construction. I have done labour my whole life as a woman. I also have a university degree and am working on other qualifications in my career path to develop my skillsets. Do you think men are the only ones capable of these things? Why would you think that? Additionally, the biggest barrier to women being in the trades is men. Flat out. You're the biggest reason why women won't even apply for a lot of these positions. I had to literally be related to someone to even get my foot in the…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/24 09:20 PM
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Then why didn't he discuss that well in advance or abstain from sex until he did want to reproduce?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/24 11:23 PM
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If he doesn't want kids then he can get a vasectomy. Otherwise, unless it's rape or sexual coercion, then he's just as responsible as the other participant.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/24 10:00 PM
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Intimacy has rarely been an issue in our marriage tbh. And its because i always looked at my husband like the sun shined out his asshole that I didn't notice he didn't see me the same way by comparison. I'm also mildly autistic (late diagnosed) with a history of being an abuse victim (my dad was emotionally, physically and financially abusive). Additionally, I accept that he isn't perfect and neither am I. Have annoyances, problems and stuff too. I don't expect him to love me unconditionally. An…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/24 06:16 PM
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I dated an astro-physacist classicly handsome guy for like 2 weeks. Broke up with him when he wouldn't take my no as a full answer. Could have married a lawyer, doctor, rich heir, etc. if I wanted to. End up losing my v-card to a Jewish accountant who I still think very fondly of and we are both still friends (long distance didn't work out) and married a guy who treats me 50/50 usually. He does have his own trauma and history, he's not perfect by any stretch and we've had put tough patches but w…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/24 05:01 AM
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I don't hate my husband or my dad. But I am not blind or deaf to their limitations and how they treat people. And I work in construction in home warranty (and now with safety) and I have a business marketing degree. Art is just a side hustle. Do you put your company on your Reddit profile? My bad for having varied interests, I guess?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/24 01:20 AM
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Then that would make you incompatible and you know to move on. I know plenty of men who didn't like that I was a virgin and waiting until I was ready to lose it. Doesn't mean I deserve their attention and time either.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/24 01:14 AM
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My dad literally cries to my mom every day asking why I won't pick up his calls or talk to him. He goes to therapy for his depression. It took almost 60 years and he thinks just like you. I don't have to convince you what's going to be better for you. I just have seen the outcomes repeatedly growing up in a onservative Christian fundamentalist society whose family followed trad values and I witnessed a tonne of failed marriages followed by life long bachelor's whose children don't talk to them. …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/24 12:12 PM
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Oh, so you want to be a selfish partner who takes and never gives. Will you do that to your children too? My dad did that. We don't talk. He doesn't understand why but he will never ask me. Would that make you happy?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/24 12:05 PM
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Okay, what does low effort mean to you exactly? I know plenty of women who split costs on the first date. I asked my now husband out and we went halfsies on our dates and split costs even now according to income. That's just basic partnerships in general for modern couples though. When we talk about "low effort" what do you think that means exactly?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/24 01:50 AM
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My husband went into our relationship thinking it would fix him. All it did was break me. He's happy. I'm not. Yes, your life might improve but you've just created a burden on someone else as a result. Which, fundamentally, makes you a horrible partner. The real question is that the kind of partner you want to be?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/24 09:32 PM
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I don't think I could marry someone who comes home smelling of garbage every day. Again, I also wouldn't marry a lawyer because of their high demand job. Or a surgeon. It's literally just a personal preference.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/24 12:31 AM
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Would you date/marry a female sanitation worker? I think that's an individual opinion but I wouldn't date one for the same reason I wouldn't date a zookeeper, a lawyer or a police officer. I know the smell would suck, their lifestyle would conflict with mine and I like career driven partners in general. I've worked labour intensive blue collared jobs my entire life as a woman, for reference
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/24 04:32 PM
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I mean, I have only ever had abusive workplaces and abusive interpersonal relationships my entire life. Do I get an award for making it a competition?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/24 11:54 AM
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I am and it's a severely abusive one because ND women are highly vulnerable to abusive relationships. I'm literally built to be gullible. You know who targets gullible people? Abusers. I'd rather be single than in an abusive relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/24 01:20 AM
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I would say there are pros and cons to both including not being diagnosed very early and having severe suicidal depressive episodes because of it is a con. But I also find it incredibly weird when people make your personal experiences a competition like it's some sort of tally on a chalkboard wall. We all have it tough. My trauma existing doesn't invalidate yours. Two traumas don't cancel each other out. Why would you even try to compare suffering when you can just focus on the cause of the prob…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/24 01:19 AM
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Agreed
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/24 02:26 PM
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Because all the men in my life pretty much followed the exact same principles as I grew up conservative and Christian fundamentalist. In comparison to the men I grew up with, my husband seems like a far left liberal hippie.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/24 02:06 PM
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I would agreem there's pros and cons to every life experience. Why does one gender get decide whose is more important?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/24 02:05 PM
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My dad used to give us the silent treatment and refuse to tell us how we fucked up for days to years sometimes. My husband knows I'm autistic and can't read body language well and he will literally expect me to know when he's annoyed at him for the most mundane things that nobody else would get annoyed about. Lack of emotional intelligence is not just a female trait.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/24 12:26 PM
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As an autistic woman married to a neuro-typical man, this theory is hilarious to me. I had to learn to mask because people would literally scream in my face if I didn't follow the rules. My parents used the stick and the belt on me and we grew up really religious. I had rules my entire life that I had to abide by and my mask was essentially built for me. If you actually get to know autistic women when they unmask, you'd immediately backtrack. I assumed everyone was just an asshole and I had to b…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/24 12:23 PM
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I think 2 parent household are great and so does my dad. Didn't stop him stealing 12k from me and giving me an eating disorder before I left junior high though. It should please you to know my parents marriage is still going strong though!
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/24 08:34 PM
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I work in construction and a man is more likely to be the cause of some sort of little drama than a woman is. They're more likely to yell at you than apologize. Is it all men? No. But women tend to categorize jealousy, anxiety, moodiness, distrust, etc as anger because a lot of men don't know how to productively communicate their actual emotions. I say this as an autistic woman who grew up with an angry dad who was never violent. I grew up with an angry brother everyone adored. I married an angr…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/24 01:20 PM
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I didn't know I had autism until I was mid-30s. I just thought everyone thought the way I did and was just better at conforming to societal expectations than I was. I wore the clothes that made me uncomfortable because if I complained, I was the problem. Or I wasn't trying hard enough. Or I was treated poorly for wearing clothes I genuinely was comfortable in. I hyperfixated on religion too growing up in a conservative household. I was taught not to complain or mention anything wrong with me or …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/24 02:11 PM
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Society infatlizies men, more so when they're diagnosed with a disability. It's a disservice to everyone when you expect autistic women to be more mature but autistic men tend to be treated like children. It creates a stigma that autistic men aren't going to be good partners as a result. It's basically the backlash of weaponized incompetence.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/24 01:23 AM
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Weird, as a woman, I must be doing it wrong because I'm fully employed and supplied the majority of the deposit for our houses when we purchased them. Most women I know are employed full time and aren't SAHMs. In fact, in this economy, it's rare to have a stay at home partner unless their slaries dont cover daycare costs and it's more affordable to to be the SAHM than pay for childcare. This is such a weird argument.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/24 05:50 PM
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Yes, you need to learn emotional intelligence to be in relationships. You are correct.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/24 07:39 PM
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I have a business degree. I passed my stat course just fine. I'm asking how you apply the research. Also, if you know what women prefer statistically. Then why not just adapt to that? Additionally, most people don't use dating apps. I met my husband through friends at a party. My sister met hers through work. My brother married a university friend. My cousin just met her bf through friends. Etc. So, again. How can you guarantee everyone who doesn't use dating apps thinks that way too?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/24 01:30 PM
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Again, bud, can you guarantee that methodology will work on every single "female"? Have you calculated how much more attractive men are when they get therapy too then?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/24 01:12 PM
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Wow, the math must be amazing. How did you manage to calculate the value of a human soul? What's the equation for attraction? How do we solve for X when it comes to honesty? What's like the official scientific scale doe attractiveness and does everyone measure it the exact same way globally? Bud, women are humans. We are individuals. The idea that you can scientifically translate hormones, social expectstions, individual upbringing, religious beliefs, traumatic experiences, mental illness, etc i…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/24 12:39 PM
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Because most of us left high-school and never looked back.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/24 10:43 PM
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Ancestrally speaking, we all died at 30 from the bubonic plague. This is modern times. If you dont like living here then go join the Amish. I still fail to see how your personal preferences is any of my business and vice versa.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/24 06:27 PM
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Again, even if you believe that personally, why is that any of your business what a complete stranger chooses to do with their lives?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/24 06:23 PM
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I agree. Incels and redpillers aren't victims because most women choose not to date them.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/24 05:36 PM
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Even if you believe that, why is that any of your business to begin with?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/24 05:17 PM
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Yup, it's almost like humanity has no problem procrrating despite people's personal opinions about relationships and attraction.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/24 04:52 PM
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I agree. If your partner is not benefiting you and you are incompatible, you should break up. Women don't have the luxury of complaining to the world about foreseeable consequences and getting sympathy. They can't just create red pill/black pill/incel/MGTOW/tradlifestyle movements to complain into the void about their dating lives over. That's the difference in thise two situations.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/24 04:41 PM
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I'm agreeing with you.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/24 04:39 PM
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Exactly. If a girl you think is your equal doesn't reciprocate, then she's not your equal is she?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/24 04:31 PM
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As a woman, I'd rather be alone than in a relationship where my happiness is optional. If you think you get to decide that for me, then you'd be wrong. Why should I put all this time and effort into someone who doesn't even contribute positively to my lifestyle or align with my goals or ambitions? A lot of men think just asking for equal partnership is too high a standard and they all want virgin tradwives who both homeschool all their kids while also somehow working a full time job. I don't ask…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/24 04:28 PM
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Whoops, my God, I meant Elliot Rodgers. Thank you!
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/24 11:56 PM
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Sure, i think everyone has to figure out what a reasonable expectation is for themselves. Some people want kids, some people don't. Some people want a traditional lifestyle. Some don't. That all means different partner qualities and expectations.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/24 10:25 PM
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We can communicate and see if we're compatible. But I shouldn't have to teach you the fundamentals of how to be a good partner. Either you are or you aren't.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/24 10:22 PM
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Sure, there's pros and cons to everything, but it's not my responsibility to educate a potential partner on my needs or theirs. I can have unreasonable expectations. That's not your business. You may have unreasonable expectations. That's also not my business.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/24 09:25 PM
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I agree. But I don't blame all men for the actions or mentalities of a few. You can have your movement but when you get people like Andrew Taint and Elliot Rodger** then there's obviously a problem
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/24 09:23 PM
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I think everyone is an individual and they have individual experiences. One gender tends to hear certain messages more than then other at times but overall, dating is a crapshoot. You can't guarantee your partner. It's a lot of compromise. Even after being with my partner for over 14 years, there's still plenty to compromise and work on. I love my husband but neither of us are perfect partners who can read each other's minds at all times. People need to learn for themselves what they expect in a…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/24 09:17 PM
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Oh, I agree. I think they create the MGTOW/incel/redpill/tradwife movement to help support that perception as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/24 02:51 PM
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As a woman, I think the redpill/blackpill/incel/tradwife/etc. movements are more geared towards helping that 20% cope with the fact they are in that category. Like some women have been taught to expect a Disney prince, some men were also taught women will just flock to you and you get your pick. Men've been told all women want is to settle down and get married just like we were. How they interpreted that was just different. They were told it was a burden but also an obligation and women were tol…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/24 01:52 PM
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Yeah, I know, understanding scientific research is not the red pills' strongest skillset.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/24 04:22 PM
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References Cameron, Deborah. “What Language Barrier?” The Guardian October 2007 www.theguardian.com/world/2007/oct/01/gender.books Tannen, Deborah. (1993) Gender and Conversational Interaction. Oxford University Press. Freed, Alice. “We Understand Perfectly: A Critique of Tannen’s View of Cross-sex Communication.” In Locating Power: Proceedings of The Second Berkeley Women and Language Conference (vol. 1), eds. Kira Hall, Mary Bucholtz, and Birch Moonwomon Berkeley: Berkeley Women and Language G…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/24 04:17 PM
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It's not a blog, it's a scientific journal but I totally get why you'd be undereducated enough not to understand that concept.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/24 03:29 PM
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Cool, again, Google is free. You're more than welcome to confirm for yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/24 11:45 AM
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Statistically speaking, men talk more in general but the difference is ultimately incrimental at best between men and women.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/24 12:56 AM
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Yeah, I asked out most of my exes and my husband.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/24 08:31 PM
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I got accused of dressing sex in a snowsuit, bud. Gtfo out of here lmao.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/24 08:24 PM
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based on OUR entire timeline on earth. Buddy. Reading comprehension is not your strongest skillset, is it?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/24 04:41 PM
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Based on our entire timeline on earth. If only height mattered for our entire existence then there would be no short men left. Again, are men inherently slaves to their biology or not?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/24 04:34 PM
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It's literally how evolution works, hun. Those with the best features to survive are more likely to procreate. If tall men were the only ones getting laid then tall people would be the only people around. The self victimhood amongst the red pill community is unmatched. You guys all believe in biology and science until it actually works against your personal biases.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/24 04:24 PM
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Telling women their standards are too high because they don't want to date or pursue men who they aren't personally attracted to for a LTR is absurd.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/24 09:48 PM
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That's actually a misconstrued data point about domestic violence. Lesbian women aren't more likely to be perpetrators of DV, they are just more likely to have been victims of it as some point in their lives. Females are still far less likely to commit DV, murder, or family Wipeouts. And, again, it's weird that you think 5 to 50 women have the exact same values, beliefs, attraction, etc as billions of other women.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/24 04:19 AM
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And this response has demonstrated why women will not be in a relationship with you. If a woman told you this about men, would you want to be in a relationship with her?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/24 09:42 PM
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My depression wasn't cured. I'm just no longer legally or.medically deemed suicidal depressed. Of course I still have depression? I just also have years of medication, therapy and change in lifestyle choices that make it manageable. I had to do actual work. And women don't struggle the same way. Because struggle isn't a competition and the same way most men will never know childbirth, most women also not know testicular cancer. It doesn't make testicular cancer more or less important than ovaria…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/24 09:41 PM
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Why are you bombarding me with responses? This perpetual victimhood isn't attractive. This is probably why women don't want to be around you to be fair.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/24 09:34 PM
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I agree. And I apply that logic to people who suffer physical imperfections or disabilities or whatever in general, short men included.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/24 03:43 PM
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Yes, everybody usually has something they need to overcome unless they're born wealthy and/or pretty. What makes short people worth more empathy than someone with acm cleft pallet, a brain injury, neuro-diverse, a different skin colour, bad genetics, abusive parents, women who've had female genital mutilation, etc? I myself am a neuro-divergent, handicapped woman with abusive, extremist religious parents who were poor. Is my struggle more valuable and worth more than a short neuro typical man wh…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/24 12:52 PM
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Okay, most people aren't that attractive or wealthy. I think short people will be in good company. I'm not sure what the victimhood here is.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/24 11:36 AM
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Not everyone uses dating apps. I met my husband st a party. Some people meet at work. Or church. Or through friends. Or at hobbies. Where's that data?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/24 05:41 AM
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Feel free to gather the data instead of simply arguing from your emotions.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/24 05:22 AM
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Thanks. I appreciate you taking the time to understand what I'm saying and asking questions. I think alot of people misunderstand that it's okay to have preferences (age, race, sex religion, career paths, etc). But there's healthy ways to have those and unhealthy ways to have those expectstions. I wouldn't marry a cop for a number of reasons. I also would never marry a doctor or lawyer or someone with a high demand job and a lack of work life balance. I like my 9-5 construction worker husband wh…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/24 05:14 AM
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Yeah? I'm an overweight 30 year old woman and I wouldn't date a man too fat to hike a mountain with me. It's reasonable to have bare minimum expectations from your partner. If I can do 10k a day, you should be able too if that's what I value and think will make us compatible. We all have personal preferences. If you only choose partners solely because of their weight ALONE then that would be a fetish. If you prefer someone who can be active with you, eat healthy, grow with you and your health is…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/24 04:31 AM
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Honestly, they're both sides of the same coin. One is just a more extremist belief of the other.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/24 10:55 PM
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Libido is an individual factor. Also, I know plenty of women who enjoy sex. I know a lot of women who will stop having sex with men who don't care if their partner is even enjoying the sex in the first place. I mean, women are horny. But we'd rather just not have sex than have horrible, unfulfilling sex with a partner who makes sex a chore where we never actually climax or enjoy it. If you're bad at sex, expect women to lose desire for you. If you are a shitty partner, also expect women to lose …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/24 10:47 PM
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Yes, most women with fetishes would do the same.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/24 10:27 PM
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Again, I don't doubt short men face some discrimination. But all their misfortunes, including g their success with women, isn't solely from their height alone. That's my entire point. A lot of these short incels/red pillers will blame everything that doesn't go right in their lives on their height. Being short doesn't mean you can't get therapy. Being short doesn't mean you're not able to get an education. Being short doesn't mean you can't work on your inter-personal skills and emotional intell…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/24 09:57 PM
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I agree. I am an overweight woman in her mid-30's. I absolutely agree nobody owes me a relationship and that you can't force attraction for my body type. The same goes for anyone who might be short, tall, skinny, handicapped, mentally disabled, white, black or rainbow etc. But my weight doesn't define my worth in society. It just defines my worth to some people. That being said, short men don't get sympathy points for just existing. Again, everyone has individual struggles. Short men are not mor…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/24 09:35 PM
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Again, that's a preference. I prefer super skinny dudes in general but they don't need to have an eating disorder to make me happy. I can't help my attraction but I also know people aren't less than for not meeting my personal expectations in a partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/24 09:24 PM
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So you've just repeated exactly what I've said about personal preferences. I get it. I like big noses, skinny legs, big forearms, high foreheads and a nice pronounce jawline. I like guy who can keep up with me physically too. That's a very reasonable expectation to have. Again, if your weight is impacting your quality of life (ie, too thin or too big) then yeah, most people would have a problem and you're entering into fetish territory
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/24 08:53 PM
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Okay? I haven't had that problem as a 5'7 woman but I prefer men with substance and character over purely physical appearance. I know plenty of people (both men and women) might feel differently because attraction isn't a perfect formula that can be applied to each individual equally. I know there are physical qualities I am attracted to in a partner that I need so I understand your preference too. Again, though, do you have a specific height requirement exactly or just a broad preference that y…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/24 08:51 PM
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Okay, riddle me this: what's the exact weight/physical requirements you want in a partner?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/24 08:45 PM
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I didn’t say that either, I’m just saying that is way harder for short men. And it's hard for minority women. And people who are physically disabled. And it's hard for people with learning disabilities. Or who grew up in abject poverty or with abusive households. Or neuro-divergent people. Life is not fair. Just because you say it doesn’t really matter overall doesn’t mean it aligns with what actually happens in the world. My point exactly. Couldn't agree more. Just because you're not experienci…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/24 08:43 PM
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Again, so what? Is there a movement killing all short people and prosecuting them for their genetics? Again, heifer will not cure your poor self esteem. Tall men have also felt victimized for not getting a relationship as well. I know plenty of tall, handsome men who struggled getting girlfriends because they didn't have anything else to offer aside from height. Height is not going to cure how you choose to treat people.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/24 06:40 PM
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Ah, okay, so short men don't procreate whatsoever then? No short families exist? Like, it's a fun notion but the reality is that height is a minimal factor in these decisions the same way weight is. 2-5 inches doesn't make a difference for most women. The guys. I dated who were shorter than me made a bigger deal about it than anyone else by far. I didn't even notice the height difference initially because I genuinely did not care. Most grown women I know don't mention height. We genuinely do not…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/24 06:07 PM
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Then you've answered your own question. You get the energy you give and you feel victimized. Relationships are work. If you don't want to put the work in, that's totally fine. But it's weird when you judge women when they are simply matching your energy.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/24 05:55 PM
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Again, you are the one in charge of your own happiness. Do you think someone else is responsible for managing your emotions and your self worth? Like, I am sorry you're going through that but what makes your struggle more important than mine? And I mean that genuinely. Why should I put aside my support system, my comfort, my self worth to support a man who just told me you don't even have empathy for me or my situation in any capacity? And, again, I am saying this hypothetically, as I don't have…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/24 05:40 PM
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Have you considered these men are doing the work for themselves to be happy instead of forcing that labour onto their partners? I've been with my husband 14 years. It takes work to make and sustain a relationship. It also takes being responsible for your own happiness. Getting married didn't cure my depression. Getting help for myself from professionals and working on myself did. Women are human beings like men. We all struggle. But you wouldn't want a partner who needs you to act exactly a cert…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/24 04:53 PM
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Cool, and this is why we can't take the redpill seriously. If only 6'5 men were getting laid then 5'4 men would have already been bred put of existence by now. My husband is 5'11 and he can get laid any day. I'm 5'7 and I've dated guys were were 5'6 or shorter before. Height really doesn't matter as much to women as it does to short men. Genuinely, it's really sad how often men will judge each other and themselves before actually getting the opinion of a woman. This is a great example of that.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/24 04:45 PM
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If you like tall men but don't ultimately care if your partner is 6'5 or 5'4 then that's a preference. If you'll only date tall men who are above 6'5 then that's a fetish. Same with weight, if you don't mind a plus size person but prefer skinnier, that's a preference. If you need someone the size of Eugenia Coonie or someone so overweight it affects their quality of life then that's a fetish.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/24 04:33 PM
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Yup. I want to progress my career, travel a bit, I'm left leaning, we wanted to raise our kid the same, etc. It's literally that easy.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/24 12:06 AM
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You're compromising. Its called compromise. I want a guy who will provide a million dollar salary, do all the diapers, clean the house and tell me I'm the best thing that ever happened to me every day.m while he rocks my world 3 times a week. I absolutely still love my husband for struggling along side me, doing the dishes, helping with the domestic labour load and date nights twice a month and quickies when the kiddo is preoccupied. I have understood that life isn't fair, I'm not going to win t…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/24 11:46 PM
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Financially, emotionally, and physically, yes. I did go through some severe health issues where he had to support me but he got paid out equally in my lawsuit for that and I basically gave him a running start on his retirement fund and supplied the down-payment for our homes, technically.iunno, we don't really keep track of who does what more because I think his support when I was at my lowest is worth more than all the money in the world, and how do you monetize that kind of love? I mean, he ha…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/24 08:18 PM
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It's not our job to make you treat us as human beings. You have to fundamentally want to grow for yourself before you can expect anyone to want to grow with you. Do the work for yourself, nobody owes you a relationship when you're not capable of being an equal partner from day 1 and will resist any suggestion of how to improve. And I say that for everyone, regardless of gender or sexual orientation. Nobody wants to do the emotional labour for a full grown adult. Autistic Men aren't special. They…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/24 06:12 PM
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I honestly somewhat agree but not in the same way that you might think. I think a lot of men aren't taught the social and emotional skills to process the work that goes into those areas. Being emotionally intelligent is a lot of work. I'm working on an autism diagnosis for myself but I'm one of those people who struggles maintaining relationships. I get burnt out easily, I shut down, I feel overwhelmed, and it can happen mid conversation. I like friends I don't have to hang out with every day. I…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/24 03:10 PM
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I support the database. Could help identify rapists, criminals and child support delinquents. Also we can enforce mandatory vasectomies for men who tried to procreate beyond the children they can physically support. If we have mandatory DNA tests then I want the same level of body autonomy women enjoy.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/24 11:40 PM
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As a woman, I don't need a man for anything in my life and I enjoy my independence. I watched my mother be financially and emotionally abused and I had the experience of my father treating his daughters the same way. I have a degree. I own a home. I have a career. I have friends, ambition, love, the whole she-bang. Why would I create more work in my life managing another man's emotional labour? Having to treat another grown adult as some sort of child incapable of doing their own laundry, food, …
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/24 09:30 PM
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Honestly, as a feminist, I have no problem with people who can communicate when their values or morals don't align, and they will be incompatible long term. I've also turned down men who had histories of being promiscuous. It didn't align with my values and I declined a relationship accordingly. You're allowed to say "no" to a relationship for any reason. The only judgement I have is whether you're gonna be an asshole or not about how you decline that relationship. I will judge a woman the same …
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/24 07:46 PM
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This whole comment thread proves my point. Lots of "I feel" statements but not a lot of proof. You can literally just Google "man berates woman" and end the debate immediately but every man here would rather argue with their emotions instead. Can't argue your feelings, bro.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/24 01:41 PM
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That's one example of many. Again, men are truly the more emotional creatures if this is what you want to pretend the argument is.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/24 01:31 PM
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My cousin is half black and Canadian and she's been assaulted for being black and followed around stores before. My half black friend had a spider crawl in her ear when she was sleeping at like 19 and when she went to the doctor they thought she was a crackhead and tried to refuse her care. She had to have her white boyfriend advocate for her to get them to get it out. I am happy you've never had to experience it but racism still exists. And just because you haven't noticed it or personally expe…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/24 01:07 PM
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Fresh and Fit podcast are entirely about men berating women for their life choices. Andrew Tate did that. That conservative far right radio host got caught on their private security camera berating hisbheavvily pregnant wife who was expecting twins for not doing chores to his standards. There's been cases of Albertan judges berating rape victims in court documents for not trying to close their legs hard enough during the act, in fact, there's a lot of court cases where judges berate women (wheth…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/24 01:02 PM
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Society has berated women before. They used to literally drag women through the streets in headgear to specifically stop them gossiping. There's been Alberta judges who berated rape victims for not closing their legs hard enough to prevent a rape. Just look at any woman on any Fresh and Fit podcast or TikTok podcast bro. They are constantly yelling at and trying to humiliate women in public social settings. There's private videos of the far right conservative dude who just went through a divorce…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/24 12:56 PM
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I'm sorry, I've been berated by parents, coworkers, bosses, friends, family, partners, etc. Most of them being men tbh if I am being honest (although women are just a capable, obviously). It's really weird that you don't know that this is a communal human experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/24 12:25 PM
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As a woman, I've been berated quite a bit throughout my life. Have you ever talked to a woman before?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/24 12:00 PM
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Yeah, weirdly enough I thought people just had both in all the time or both out. Bodies are weird, yo.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/24 01:28 AM
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You know how some people have innies or outties for belly buttons? Well, that's one of my nipples. It pops out for some coaxing but it's hereditary. My twin and little have the same feature and so does my mom. It's hardly noticeable overall but I'd its cold only one nipple will show up. Breastfeeding was a bit harder too.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/24 12:21 AM
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My coworker and his wife just chose a whole new last name when they got married. Everyone is different.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/24 11:25 PM
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I did it by the first or second date. Why would I waste my time or theirs if I knew we were fundamentally incompatible on date 2?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/24 11:23 PM
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Agreed! I don't actually hear a lot of big dick talk amongst my female friends but I am sure it happens. You are more than your body parts though! And I know plenty of men with smaller penises who have very happy and loving relationships! As long as you both are kind, respectful, clean, consensual and communicating then you have nothing to worry about! Assholes will still exist but that will happen in any part of life. It sucks when you meet one in bed though lol
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/24 10:10 PM
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Legit, so many guys get in their own heads about intimacy and their penis. The only bad penis (or vagina) is one that shows up uninvited. Everybody has a body. I have an inverted nipple for example. My husband has almost no bum. We both have stretch marks nmand scars and insecurities. And we still can't keep our hands off each other. There is nothing wrong with your penis size. There just might be something wrong with compatibility but just because you don't compliment someone (or their body par…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/24 09:31 PM
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I'm sorry, what? I'm saying there is no giga-chad sex God who can make every woman on the planet cum on command by simply inserting his penis into their vagina. The idea that one type of penis will satisfy every women regardless of their physical limitations is absurd. What are you going on about?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/24 08:53 PM
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Sure. They would be a minority though. Not to mention, it's not like a lot of men are receptive to feedback in this department so some of that might be assumed.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/24 06:25 PM
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Good dick usually goes hand in hand with: Communication- like not surprising your partner with things they didn't consent to initially (ie, bdsm, piss play, diaper fetish, etc.) Actual foreplay- if you're just jackhammering away then it doesn't matter how perfect your dick is, it will not satisfy anyone. Cleanliness- I have gotten UTIs before because a dude didn't know to wash his dick apparently. Being physically compatible. All bodies are different. My husband is average size and if it were an…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/24 05:12 PM
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As a feminist, I advocate for harsher punishments when it comes to women pedophiles. When we talk about the inequality in the legal system, it includes leniency when it comes to any bias, man or woman. I think there is this misconception that feminism only wants to punish men by making it equitable for women. We want all the rights, privileges AND responsibilities as men. That includes accountability for being a fucking pedophile (and for all crimes they are found guilty of). We are aware access…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/24 02:02 PM
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She didn't. I don't see anything where women are saying all late blooming virgins need to be punished. Can you find the comment?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/24 12:42 PM
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We don't call all inexperienced virgins red flags, hun. The fact you're a virgin has nothing to do with you being problematic. The two aren't equated. Your virginity didn't make you join an online toxic, borderline terrorist group. It's the men who weaponize their insecurities as being someone else's problem to solve that are the red flags. I know plenty of male virgins in their mid-30's who found loving, lasting relationships no problem and nobody judged them for being late bloomers. Maybe it's…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/24 04:48 PM
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I call out radical/extremists no matter if I support the social movement or not. As a feminist, it is important to me to make sure people know I don't identify with toxic individuals and I vocally denounce toxic people who identify with feminism no matter how popular they might be. Feminism isn't about uplifting women regardless of their crimes or problematic stances. It's just giving women the same opportunities as men, including to be held accountable in a way where we can recognize their poor…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/24 04:44 PM
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Quite literally not the same thing. You're describing feminist's doing a prescription (what you should do), redpill is a description (what is going on). I think you're confused. They're both personal philosophies and social movements. They have both qualities. They're just focused on different social issues. One isn't inherently worse than the other in theory. There's extremist in every social movement as well. Ultimately, they're just personal belief systems that you identify with or you don't.…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/24 04:39 PM
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The same way everyone else deals with their unhappiness: therapy.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/24 04:09 PM
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Again, are men also obligated to deny their personal sexual preferences in order to pity date people they have no sexual attraction or long term compatibility with? This is a yes or no question.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/24 07:25 PM
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I'm also 5'7 (and was slightly taller than my ex). I did not lose attraction. Again, if you expect women to sacrifice their sexual attraction in order to pity date people they don't want as partners, are you also expecting men to do the same?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/24 07:17 PM
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I dated a guy who was 5'7 and it wasn't a problem. The only reason why we broke up was long distance and religious beliefs. If you aren't willing to make the same sacrifices when it comes to sexual attraction then why are you expecting women to?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/24 07:12 PM
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So you'd date a fat chick? Or someone who you aren't personal attracted to in any capacity?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/24 07:09 PM
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In most of my female friend's experiences (as well as my own) men were introduced and had to come with a high recommendation not only from his piers but also from other woman. I also didn't look for anyone who was promiscuous or whose values didn't mirror my own. If you want a woman with a low body count and whose "Hugh value" then you also have to be high value and a low body count and be upfront, honest and have personal accountability and integrity. If you don't have people who can vouch for …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/24 06:14 PM
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I have 2 for a body count (the second one being my husband whom ive been with for 14 years) and i wouldn't touch the vast majority or men, especially anyone who identifies as a red piller/incel/etc. If he was terrible in bed and not open for improvement then I would have dumped him. Those high values women you idolize? They don't want men like you to begin with.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/24 06:10 PM
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Yeah, men should be trying harder to satisfy their partners. I almost left my husband because he had no interest in making sex pleasurable for my initially during the dating phase. He is the second partner I've ever had. Why would I want a lifetime of that kind of disappointment? Sex is fun. I want a partner who makes it fun. That's not a big ask.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/24 06:08 PM
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Yeah, to be fair, autistic and people with good pattern recognition usually are far less likely to fall prey to marketing/propaganda/cults/etc. I say that as someone who briefly grew up inside a cult at one point.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/24 07:52 PM
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Andrew Tate kidnapped women and threatened to kill them. He probably just watched too much Disney though.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/24 01:02 PM
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Fair.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/24 10:40 PM
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Then why not change YOUR behaviour to suit THEIR preferences if incompatibility is not a deal breaker for you?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/24 10:37 PM
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Again, men do get to decide if they want to procreate or not. Nobody is stopping men from getting vasectomies, wearing condoms, or choosing abstinence. If you want to control women's bodies then you need to also start controlling men's. Just because women have the physical ability to host a pregnancy does not mean men have any less responsibility for where they choose to ejaculate. This idea that men are not entitled to be responsible for the consequences of their own actions is very funny thoug…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/24 06:48 PM
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So we can force men into mandatory vasectomies then?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/24 06:32 PM
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Women also have that choice. We can choose not to have sex, vet our partners better and to be responsible for our reproductive health. Again, we BOTH have that choice. And if you're having sex, you're consenting to the consequences of having sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/24 05:39 PM
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He does have that choice. He can choose to not have aex, get a vasectomy and choose better partners He has vetted more thoroughly. Men do have choices. Just because women get to decide if they physically have to suffer 9 months more of consequences or not doesn't mean men aren't also getting a choice.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/24 02:53 PM
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As a fat woman, I think that's fine. I'm not attracted to everyone. And not everyone is attracted to me. As long as you're polite about it and make sure you're kind about the rejection then I don't see a problem with having personal preferences when it comes to partners.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/24 03:16 AM
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I gave my husband space when his mother died. He asked for it and I didn't want to pressure him into sex either during his most vulnerable time. I told him I was there if he wanted to talk and I looked after the household and carried on all the financial and social responsibilities while he grieved. I was too tired for sex during that timenperiod as well because I was also grieving and having to pick up his slack (understandably so) while he processed this trauma. I'm not saying your ex had good…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/24 02:49 PM
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No, I agree. I wouldn't step foot in your house knowing how little you value cleanliness. This is why I never eat food from people's homes unless I can vet their living conditions first. I know people who cut chicken on the counters and didn't wipe anything down afterwards.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/23 06:11 PM
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Oof, buddy. Do you not wash your curtains? Like, even a wipe down is good every once in a while. I don't want to be inhaling dust every time I open a window. Gross af.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/23 06:02 PM
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People have been charged for neglect leading to child endangerment/death and it is a form of abuse. Not to mention, it depreciates the home over time and it can lead to serious health issues like black mold. So I mean, yeah, people do die from living in filth. It's not abusive to turn down someone for sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/23 05:51 PM
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As a woman, I am neuro divergent and I have no problem with neutodivercity. In fact, I prefer it because I understand it better. But if you use it to justify being an asshole, then no.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/23 06:21 PM
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Yes, people have opinions on things, including restaurants and people and places and things and decisions, etc. That is life. I don't want to date 20 girls just for the sake of having girls who can "review" me to other girls. I want one girl. Do my reviewers have to be friends?Well then, eat what you're given and don't complain if you don't like it then. Then eat what you're given and don't complain. You don't know what you like until you try it yourself. If you want to settle for the bare minim…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/23 06:44 PM
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How do you eat? How do you choose which meals to have or restaurants to go to? Do you go back to people and places who give you violent diarrhea? People are all different.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/23 06:30 PM
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Some food is moldy, some food is poison, some food is too salty or spicy or overcooked or you're allergic. Some food is just not to your taste. Some food looks beautiful but is bad for you or will make you unhealthy. Some food is only good in small quantities. Some food has bad presentation but tastes delicious and sometimes a different dish looks amazing but is made with expired food or is just bland in flavor. Everyone has different tastes. I like spicy dishes that test me and burn my face off…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/23 05:45 PM
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Oh, I'm aware. But again, that reflects more on the people and the company they keep more than anything. I'd be a very shitty person if I was friends with a known predator. I cut my own father in law off for similar reasons.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/23 03:23 PM
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So if these men know then why are they still friends? I know plenty of men I'd trust alone in a room with my 15 year old daughter.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/23 02:36 PM
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Why are you friends with a predator in the first place? Doesn't that decision reflect more on you than your 25 year old daughter?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/23 12:56 PM
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I was a late bloomer virgin and my mental health was a dumpster fire the entire time.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/23 12:55 PM
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Buddy, no. Nobody is showing up with black eyes and broken bones every Monday morning. Also, there's no car park. It's a construction site in a residential neighborhood in a very well populated area with attentive neighbours who look for excuses to call the company to report employees because they hate the builders. If they were fistfighting anywhere near work I'd hear about it as the Safety Officer, let alone because I literally hang out with the construction teams putside of work regularly. No…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/23 04:16 AM
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Dude doesn't know how to read data.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/23 04:09 AM
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Do you often fistfight your work problems? Do you get advanced in the workplace fighting your boss? I'm confused how im supposed to accomplish framing in a bathtub by beating up my coworkers. Are your coworkers physically attacking you on a regular basis? Because WorkSafe would have some questions if everyone was beating each other up every week on a job site.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/23 04:08 AM
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Yeah, I was trained that men treating me like suit was normal. My dad did the exact same thing and encouraged my brother to treat us the same way. I had exbfs who were similar and male friends all seemed to fit the same abusive patterns. When my husband escalated, I was told I was always the problem so I just assumed I was just always the problem. Turns out, no, he knows he's abusive and he just enjoyed the perks and had no incentive to change because everyone supported the abuse. He's a Saint t…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/23 06:28 PM
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I'm in an abusive relationship. I am taking responsibility and leaving. Do you have sympathy for me or feel the need to treat me more mildly because of my personal experience?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/23 05:54 PM
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Yuuuup, and it normalized physical abuse in my relationship. I didn't think there was anything wrong with my husband punching holes in walls or smacking pets. Took a lot of therapy to recognize abuse after my childhood.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/23 05:52 PM
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You know, just because many bad things that happen to men in society are caused by other men doesn’t automatically mean that men are somehow worse people overall. The earlier guy never blamed women, he blamed society which involves men AND women. And women are working hard on making a support system for themselves and to change society to value mental health, regardless of gender. Very rarely do I see men supporting other men and/or taking the initiative to get on top of their mental health prob…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/23 05:51 PM
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This is not an inherent or innate behaviour in men overall, it's a consequence of what is being done TO men by society. Women would behave just as terribly (though probably would express it differently) if they were emotionally neglected and emotionally illiterate as well, it's just that society cares far more about women's feelings and regularly tells men that nobody gives a fuck about theirs. Women usually experience worse (as we work with a lot of women on these same jobbsites) but I've never…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/23 05:11 PM
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Right, men are too stupid to control themselves. All their bad behaviours are women's fault. Women just can't take accountability for the damage they make men cause. Poor men. They're just dumb dumb idiots who control the economy and represent the majority of every political party. But they're so misrepresented. And it's all women's faults. Yeah, okay, bud.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/23 04:49 PM
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Honestly, some are. Some are just flat out mysoginists and some are just guys who were never taught emotional intelligence. Most are right wing leaning, unsurprisingly enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/23 03:29 PM
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This is your own sourcing saying exactly the opposite of what you initially claimed. I'm confused why you're upset.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/23 02:41 PM
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It will. Thank you!
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/23 02:40 PM
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I mean. I know plenty of intersex people who aren't bragging about peeing out of their body parts but I guess it's less impressive if you're not a straight, hetero male.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/23 02:39 PM
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this was a linked article. Weird how it supports exactly what I said.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/23 02:37 PM
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Okay, when you have more data than a 2011 screen shot of a screen shot to back you up then we can talk. Good idea.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/23 02:31 PM
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I'm fine. I'm making an exit plan currently.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/23 02:25 PM
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I'm Canadian. Also, that data isn't accurate. Women spend more money and time on household maintenance and child care. Men are doing more than they have historically ever done but it's still not anywhere near what women do. Also, they self report doing more while women are more humble about their contributions. I get why that data would be confusing to you though. Also, that data ends in 2011. We are in 2024 in less than 2 weeks so I would call it severely outdated.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/23 02:23 PM
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I have a she-wee so I've done that as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/23 02:22 PM
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At first it was he was funny, he was kind, and he was selfless. As I get to know him more, I realize he is none of thise things. So none.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/23 02:04 PM
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I treat my husband the same way. He acts like a child so I treat him like one. It's nice because I get the financial benefit and he gets the benefit of being treated like a child. He loves it.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/23 02:03 PM
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As someone who works in construction, I see the exact opposite every day. I watch men storm around job sites, throw tantrums, refuse to stop site wide banned behaviour and like throw pity parties when they don't get what they want. And they'll easily do it to other men in a heartbeat. The absolute tantrums I've watched men perform AT WORK has been mindblowing. I've seen guys destroy company property, send death threats, one guy sent a bullet to a former Strata member and got arrested. One guy re…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/23 02:00 PM
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This right here! This whole comment section is literally just men trying to not take responsibility for anything wrong in their lives. My husband literally blames me when his charging cord broke because I used it once 4 weeks prior after 3 years of his daily use. He blames me if the cat meows too loud. He blames me if anything goes wrong in our lives whatsoever. And I grew up with a dad who did the same. If he had a bad day at work he'd come home and blame his kids and his wife for his shitty mo…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/23 01:52 PM
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Most women I know are fully employed. Almost all the stay at home parents I know made the decision together based off of childcare costs. Also, my husband is the one constantly dropping the ball on home maintenance and cleaning, basic shit. I also work full time and do majority childcare and cleaning. Men aren't doing anything women aren't already doing plus more. Most men I know can't keep up with the women around them.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/23 01:50 PM
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I work in construction and in male dominated fields my entire life. There has been NOTHING a man has done that I haven't also seen a woman do.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/23 01:47 PM
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So youre saying women are capable adults and don't need to be babied and talked down to? Wow, what a novel concept! I couldn't agree more!
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/23 01:46 PM
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So women are kinda like...adults?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/23 01:46 PM
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I'm raising a 4 year old everyone compliments on without hitting her. It's ridiculously easy. You just have to be an involved parent and make educated choices including educating your child on mistakes they make and taking time to teach them property manners as well as just simply spending quality time with them. I genuinely don't understand why my parents spanked me growing up.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/23 01:45 PM
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I watched a lot of millennials who grew up with physical punishment turn into abusive spouses. But I'm sure having a half assed parent has paid off for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/23 01:43 PM
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The things I've heard men judge each other for has blown me away. What tools that own, what cars or jobs they have, where they live, what they wear, who they married, their weight, etc. Being a gossip queen isn't exclusively a female trait, hun. People like to talk and low self esteem isn't directly affiliated with owning a pair of ovaries.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/23 01:03 PM
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I've heard my husband talk about other men's ducks before. Same with exbfs. I've had one girlfriend describe on ex-mutual friends dick to me and thats about it. But, again, our individual experiences are all anecdotal evidence anyways.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/23 01:02 PM
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Oh right. Because women only know how to cook, do laundry and organize communal childcare because of pregnancy. Duh!
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/23 12:26 AM
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It literally is concrete evidence. Again, we can point to several points throughout history of women taking over men's roles effortlessly. The same cannot be same for men. Again, this is easily proven by simply opening a history book. Try it!
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/23 11:54 PM
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Sorry. I am not saying women only do this during a wars or strikes. I'm saying we have seen concrete evidence of women managing to run the entire economy unassisted but men will shut down the economy if women stopped doing everything. As in, we watched itnhappen in real time with real consequences repeatedly throughout history. That's how we can confirm men are less required than women for economies and society to function and function well. Especially on a country-wide or international platform…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/23 11:47 PM
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My husband wanted to be a househusband/SAHP. I hated it when I did it as a woman. It's an individual choice.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/23 07:19 PM
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I've work in a male dominated field my wntire working career. Men absolutely are not better at taking criticism. I've seen men literally start entire fist fights on site over a perceived slight or criticism. I dare you to go to a mechanic or a framer or someone blue collar, male dominated industry and critique their work.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/23 03:29 AM
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You're entitled to treat your partner any way you'd like to. I am not entitled to stay with a partner who would treat me as you described. Neither are wrong but I know personally, I wouldn't want to be with someone who can't communicate their needs or be engaged in family planning from day 1. If you told me you expect a paternity test from day 1, then we might have a chance. If you want to withhold that information until I am emotionally vulnerable dn dealing with pregnancy hormones, then be pre…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/23 08:50 PM
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It isn't. We literally can defer to any war and women easily filled the gap. The few times women went on strike and the economy came to a halt. The data is there.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/23 08:02 PM
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No? I asked my husband out to be fair but as Ling as you're respectful and can appreciate if I decline without becoming abusive then I will usually buy you a drink or even wingman you for a friend or other women. If you're genuinely a good person who can handle rejection, it pays off long term.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/23 04:40 PM
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Wait until you hear about women in the workforce. There's even been female presidents and politicians occomplishing things. Women went on strike and shut whole countries down. Men went to war and women filled the gap and didn't want to leave their work positions when the men returned. Turns out, men are the complainers who don't contribute much to society.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/23 01:55 PM
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I bought my last wallet for $15 at winners Our rule in pur household is: anything that is a communal cost over 150 needs to be discussed. Additionally, we have our own personal money to buy things when we need them. If my husband wants to pay $6k for a car to work on for a hobby (which he did 2 months ago) he used his personal funds to do it. He still discussed it with me and I said "it's your money". I wanted a new wallet and some earrings and I splurged and spent $100 on some essentials. I als…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/23 03:17 PM
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I nearly divorced my husband because he thought like you did. He made decisions and didn't even include me in them. Just the most mundane things that completely contradicted either my core beliefs, what we had already discussed or led me down a path because he only gave me half the information. I nearly left him because of how severely he needed to control everything. It isn't a fairytale. That's why I need to be treated like an adult and not some fairy princess stuck in lalaland. If you are goi…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/23 02:42 PM
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We literally went to couples counselling to figure out how to agree better. But it is possible. If one person wants kids and one doesn't though, then you need to part ways as that is something called a gridlock and there will be no resolution. Sometimes it is incompatibility. But forcing your partner to have a kid and "be subservient" to your needs despite it directly contradicting your own is a recipe for disaster. I would be miserable with 5 kids my husband forced onto me. I only wanted 1 max.…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/23 02:39 PM
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Yeah, then the whole issue is nobody that age range has any communication skills yet. You're all in the same boat just paddling in different directions lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/23 10:45 PM
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Then why are you sticking with him? Also, some women don't tell any problems. My mom never tells what she needs than gets angry saying she has to do all the work alone. When I forcefully start helping without her telling she gets angry. No idea what your personal circumstances are but my mother is the opposite. Turns out women are all individuals too. I told before it's not gender specific, both don't communicate. Again, I agree. When? by giving signals. Most of you didn't even say but only give…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/23 09:51 PM
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So you're asking why sitcom couples act like they're in sitcoms? Ok if you say women are better communicators, why do women say they don't need help when we ask them? Why are you even asking to do basic household tasks? A lot of men aren't helping, you're just participating equally in things that just need to get done. We get mad because nobody tells us when these things need to be done. They just have to be done. We get upset when you ask because a) it's not helping us, it's just requires parti…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/23 09:21 PM
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I agree. But people don't just jump straight to breaking up, is what I am saying. Most men will tell their partners "I didn't think it was that big of a deal that you were so unhappy." There's a bunch of people who will argue that everyone needs to live their lives in a tolerable level of unhappiness when their partners ask them to just listen to them and work with them to fix things. But this idea that most women are just jumping straight to divorce out of nowhere is absurd. It took YEARS for m…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/23 07:37 PM
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The breakdown is not due to kids. It's due to: 1. Men not pulling their weight to help their partner and kid. 2. Women not communicating their grievances to their partner. Women are communicating though. The divorces and relationship breakdoesn occur because a lot of men don't listen. I was in multiple car crashes (I was always the passenger except the last one where the other driver was still deemed at fault) and my.husband argued with me over whether I was even hurt or not. I was telling him t…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/23 05:12 PM
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As a feminist, i am against circumcision. When we had pur oopsie child though, it was my husband who insisted he have a circumcision if it was a boy.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/23 07:07 PM
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I had lots of expectations about my husband. People aren't perfect. We either accept that or be angry at everyone all the time forever.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/23 02:10 PM
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Libidos aren't set in stone. Mine went down after pregnancy. It went down when people hit me with their cars. His went up when he quit smoking, it went down when his mom died, etc Life is more complicated than "men need sex or the relationship is doomed".
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/23 10:42 PM
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Except I have never cheated in over 13 years despite mismatched libidos. There are other problems in our relationship and I still feel like cheating reflects more on the cheater than the person being cheated on. If you have no self control to the point where you'd betray your partner so intimately, that says more about you than the partner you're cheating on If I want to go sleep with someone else, I will. But I'll divorce my husband first because I'm not a liar and manipulator.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/23 10:19 PM
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As someone who loves sex and has a much higher libido than her partner, should I also be allowed to cheat if he's nit satisfying my needs on my demand?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/23 10:02 PM
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I know plenty of men who slept with lots of women with no repeat demands for a reason. Charisma doesn't mean you're good in bed. If you're selfish enough to cheat, chances are you're just as selfish between the bedsheets.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/23 09:56 PM
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You nailed it.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/23 07:59 PM
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Ew.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/23 02:24 AM
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No, women just have more self control. I am super hirny. I am hornier than my husband by far. But I also understand consent and don't feel obligated to somebody else's body for any reason whatsoever. Yes, some women can still be sexual assailants and rapists. Yes, some men can also exhibit self control and empathy. It's just women are taught to respect personal boundaries far more than men are.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/23 08:43 PM
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I agree. However, that's not the average single parent or their experience. Most people don't have multiple baby daddies or mommies.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/23 06:24 PM
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Sure, but then you have an abortion. If you don't have access to abortion, then it's stupid AF to voluntarily have sex with someone in the first place. I got accidentally pregnant on my honeymoon so if that wasn't a good time to have sex then I don't know when. Like my friend got pregnant because her birth control failed but obviously she wouldn't keep the child of her dumb ass ex boyfriend with two brain cells who just spent his entire salary on tattoos with 20$ to spare... Yes, I agree everyon…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/23 05:42 PM
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As someone who got pregnant accidentally after 2 forms of birth control failed, no, I am not stupid for being a victim to circumstances out of my control. Life happens. Condoms break, birth control fails, plan B doesn't work, and sometimes people delay vasectomies and we get oopsy babies. Yes, some people are reckless and make stupid decisions but that isn't the norm in these situations. Sometimes it is simply bad luck or even sexual assaults (ie, stealthing, reproductive coercion, etc). To pain…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/23 05:28 PM
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Nobody is against paternity tests. What women are against is being blindsided mid or post pregnancy while hormones are raging already with requests to prove they didn't cheat. If you want a paternity test, ask for one beforehand. During the family planning stages. You're all adults. If you have the belief then you need to express it and find someone whose compatible with that core belief. Otherwise, you're just setting the relationship up for failure by not communicating beforehand your expectat…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/23 04:21 PM
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And that is why it's creepy. What if your partner only dated you to make you into a completely different person? Make you give up all your enjoyment and aspirations in life specifically to meet only their needs? This right here is what we're talking about when we call age gaps creepy.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/23 02:56 PM
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We're just concerned for the women. It's genuinely creepy when people date specifically for age and not anything else.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/23 02:53 PM
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This is how I got into an abusive relationship. My dad was emotionally and financially abusive to us and I found a guy who treated me better. Then he slowly stopped. But my parents always shamed me for speaking up about anything. So I was ashamed and said nothing. Because I should somehow have known better. Despite never being taught what a normal, healthy relationship actually looked like. Now my husband is in anger management and domestic abuse counselling as well as personal and couple's coun…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/23 03:15 AM
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Sure bud. Maybe if men were better at jokes and math we wouldn't be arguing over a subreddit where too many men complain that being a subpar partner doesn't automatically get them laid.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/23 12:17 AM
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Oh, right. Most men can't take jokes. I forgot.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/23 11:55 PM
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Lol, just a lot of the men on r/deadbedrooms in general. Considering that's like...what? 0.0001% of the entire Earth's population, i think it's safe to assume it's not all men.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/23 11:41 PM
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Lmao, not all men, bud.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/23 11:32 PM
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Ah, yo old, I broke it, tried nothing to fix it and now I don't want it anymore argument. Classic Man math.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/23 04:08 PM
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I'm very impressed you know so much about women. I also know a lot about men. Probably more than most men do.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/23 11:23 PM
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I love a good work of fiction. Thanks for sharing!
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/23 10:02 PM
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Yes, they do. But again, that's not a communally shared preference. There are also conservative women who prefer to date conservative men. And my husband and mother both grew up in small towns. It's pretty easy to see why people wouldn't be able to process that the rest of the world has different social, political and economic norms compared to a city of less than 5,000 people. This is, again, why anecdotal evidence isn't a great substitute for legitimate data.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/23 06:42 PM
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Again, anecdotal evidence is not a substitute for statistical, nation wide data. Thank you for contributing to the conversation with your opinion though.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/23 02:15 PM
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Oh, I think it was a bit of both but there's been plenty of death bed confessions of how abused wives disappeared their abusive husbands.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/23 04:23 PM
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Again, i have sources. You have an opinion. Your personal attacks don't negate the fact your opinion isn't based in reality.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/23 04:22 PM
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I've supplied 5 sources. You've supplied your personal opinion and theories based on that. Of course this is pointless.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/23 01:09 PM
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To be fair, a lot of men "went out for cigarettes" and were never seen again. I just learned that was just a more subtle and permanent method of making sure they weren't also some other women's problem eventually.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/23 12:55 PM
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Women literally will not date conservative men. and we we can see that through multiple studies. Ita not revenge that we won't date you. It's self preservation. Why would anyone want to date someone who is going to argue my personal preference and personal opinions whenever it conflicts with their own? Do you expect to be able to compromise in a relationship? Will you ever put her needs above your wants? Do her personal goals, dreams and aspirations matter to you whatsoever? If the answer is no,…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/23 12:53 PM
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No, we don't. We would rather be single. You're arguing from a personal bias. The data literally proves you wrong. And, again, i grew up with that dynamic and surrounded by those traditional households. I promise you, none of those women were happy in that dynamic.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/23 12:34 PM
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If we look at the voting data, women are more modern than men.. It's why there is a conservative dating website where they're basically paying women to sign up because they're so desperate for them. And it's not an isolated trend. Women are more progressive, including more than each generation before it Women aren't interested in traditional men and it's because tradition has never favored women.. We watched our mothers and grandmother's do everything while working and get no respect for it. I g…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/23 01:01 AM
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Same. It seems like they don't value themselves or the emotional connection awx brings. The blatant indifference to their own actions just gives me the ick. Like, yeah, if you enjoyed sex and connecting with people, I know plenty of men and women who enjoy casual, passionate sex with genuine honesty and friendship. But the bang and bounce method where your only goal is to add to the numbers then hard pass. There's usually no spul behind those eyes.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/23 11:46 PM
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Fixed.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/23 04:38 PM
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Have you tried therapy?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/23 03:35 PM
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Yes, we are all individuals. You should treat everyone as individuals and learn to not focus your self worth on the approval of complete strangers. If that woman is not receptive to you then move on. It is not you or her that is the problem. It is the situation. Not every woman is the devil because a few reject you sexually. Not every man is the devil because a few assault us sexually. Treat people as individuals and make your judgements accordingly.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/23 03:34 PM
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Google how many people even get a conviction. Look at Brock Turner. He was literally caught in the act by 2 witnesses. There's been a case in Canada where a taxi driver got away with being caught raping an unconscious woman by the police. There is no guarantee for a conviction, no matter how much evidence a woman may have. No matter how many witnesses. The only guarantee that a rape happened is jf the person basically dies during it. You think women want to trust men who have openly admitted to …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/23 12:48 PM
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So only on the internet during your bro shock value videos?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/23 11:26 AM
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I'm telling you why women are less likely to impose their personal preferences on men unprovoked. I'm pointing out that if women actually did the whole "fuck you, you're ugly I want Gigchad or nothing" to a man's face there's like 50% they will get physically assaulted. Men don't have that fear and it shows because that doesn't even occur to you that women would literally be scared for their personal safety if they walked uo to some random and said "you're ugly". Lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/23 07:26 PM
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Updated my post
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/23 07:07 PM
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Honestly, I've never seen a woman stalk a guy down the road trying to coax them on a date. I did watch my 13 year old girlfriend cat call some dudes from a limo on her birthday once but I'm 34 now and haven't see it reoccur. Also, she never tried to run them over or tell them they were ugly bitches when they declined her attention. However, I lost count how many men will scream their preferences at me when I decline their advances or catcalls. Two separate guys tried to run me over with their tr…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/23 06:21 PM
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Really, women are going uo to you unprovoked and telling you "you're mid. You should settle."? I have only ever voiced my personal preferences if I was asked. Most women I know are only discussing preferences knowing it's just THEIR personal preference. Are there bad women out there who want a 6"6 male model who makes 500k a year but 90% of humanity still gets laid and in relationships no problem. The same why that I know red pillers are a minority of males as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/23 04:37 PM
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Buddy, none of my exes are classically handsome. I dated for personality. I love big noses, skinny legs and glasses. Receding hairlines/big foreheads are my jam. I do like a noticeable jawline but physically, height or weight aren't typically factored in. Obviously if you are morbidly obese and barreling towards an early grave with poor life choices, that would be a turn off for me but most women I know all have a type and it isn't wealthy Chad McGigachin from Richville, USA.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/23 06:23 PM
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There is, in large part because those men can’t afford to pay it, so they’re not doing better. That's not statically the issue. Would love to see your sourcing on how they can't afford child support but also chose to create a child to support. Maybe they should invest in condoms or a vasectomy if they can't afford to make those decisions. The women who are doing ‘worse’ the stats done show the wealth transfer from husband to wife, which in reality often places the husband below the wife. It’s wh…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/23 05:22 PM
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You're right. Because there's billions in unpaid alimony and child support floating around currently. And with the cost of raising a child, the average payment barely covers a pack of diapers in most cases. There's a reason why men don't often apply for full custody when they can pay far less without all the responsibility in child support.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/23 05:12 PM
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Statistically speaking, women are more likely to end up in poverty after a divorce. More so, single mothers. Divorce is hard for everyone involved. It doesn't affect men or women more. It just affects individuals according to their individual circumstances.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/23 05:06 PM
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Women also don't enjoy divorce and can be equally blindsided by it. This isn't really a gender specific trauma.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/23 04:38 PM
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Sure, babe. I dated the men people told to give me a chance before and never again. Turns out if you have to tell people you're a nice guy, then you're probably not a nice guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/23 03:06 PM
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Again, it's not that common because most women don't care if they date or not at all. I know plenty of single by choice women who can't be bothered. I get the appeal
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/23 12:59 PM
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Again, most women I KNOW don't tend to let men pay for everything. And, again, it's largely because men will use paying for us to push our boundaries. Also, most women I know are more successful than the men they date so it just makes sense to pay.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/23 12:42 PM
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How I view it is whomever asks the other out should pay. I asked my now husband out and i paid. Then we split the bill for Date 2, took turns paying from then on out, etc. Most women I know don't let men pay for the first date because a lot of men feel entitled to sex if they do. It's why I don't let men pay for things a lot.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/23 12:27 PM
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Oof, buddy. Good luck with that.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/23 02:47 AM
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What if she doesn't know if she likes aex because she's only had bad partners? Are you a good partner for example? How important is foreplay? Would you contribute to the domestic labour of the household so she's not too stressed out to enjoy sex? Are you going to be kind to her when she's nit having a good day or going through rough times emotionally? How can you guarantee the sex will always be good?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/23 02:03 AM
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So she has to like sex but can only test that out with you?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/23 01:45 AM
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Oof, buddy. Could you imagine defending literal rapists? Maybe you need therapy.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/23 08:53 PM
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Fun fact: sexual abusers and rapists don't need you to come to their defense. They're already enabled enough, your support means nothing to them and if anything, just encourages them to find new victims knowing people like you will protect them. Well done!
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/23 08:43 PM
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I mean, if you're pro-life and she withheld that information, sure. You're not entitled to stay with anyone for any reason. I don't know why she would want to be with someone who would judge her for having an abortion if she had one but I fully support your decision to break up with a partner whose core beliefs don't align with yours.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/23 10:30 PM
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Again, why would you want to procreate and be tied to someone you know wouldn't want to procreate and be tied to you if you accuse them of infidelity? There are plenty of women who will provide that security for you, and you'll even have a much easier time of getting a paternity test as well. Why would you lie to your partner unless you were intentionally being manipulative and underhanded for only self serving purposes? Again, it takes 2 minutes to say "yeah, I want 2 kids and I'd prefer if we …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/23 10:16 PM
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So just communicating you expect a paternity test prior to actually family planning is cuckolding? It's more manly to intentionally mislead and lie to your partner when they feel like you trust and respect them and wouldn't accuse them of infidelity? Also, if paternity tests just make sense then why can't you just bring it up with your partner prior to engaging in a relationship? People manage tell each other if they expect to get married or not, how many kids they might have, what career paths …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/23 09:30 PM
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Could have fooled me.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/23 11:49 PM
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Then they should teach themselves the skillset to value their mental health. It shouldn't be a woman's responsibility to parent another grown ass human being. Not only that, men shouldn't be in leadership positions if they can't even be responsible for their own mental health or basic needs.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/23 11:29 PM
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Yes, again, you can manufacture demand by manipulating the supply chain to influence wages. Thank God, you finally get it. It's not just demand for a service. It's also manufactured demand that can influence wages. Obviously that manipulation works both ways which is why wages stagnate in industries. You finally get it.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/23 10:04 PM
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Sorry, do you mean how would you pitch a fair wage? If so, collective bargaining via methods like unionizing and strike efforts. Also, public pressure and media coverage.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/23 09:59 PM
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Not a personal offense. These are just facts. Again there is nothing to debate here or misunderstand. These are fundamental concepts that anyone who is interested in how the economy or wants to become an entrepreneur should know or else they will get into legal trouble or worse at some point. Also, you should research why there are discrimination laws and their history. Because it's fairly easy to get caught up in discriminatory hiring practices or other ethics violations if you don't.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/23 09:49 PM
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Yeah, I head that alot. "I refuse to ever better myself or be responsible for my own happiness so I have to settle for a subpar relationship I will never find fulfillment in"
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/23 09:42 PM
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Men literally can just choose to also be alone. Nobody is forcing men to get into relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/23 09:35 PM
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Again, I have a business degree and literally work in a business administrator role after having co-owned my own business for years. There isn't anything to debate here. These are just fundamental economic concepts that anyone should know and have a rudimentary understanding of how they play out in practice. I look forward to hearing more about how you think minimum wages were decided.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/23 09:30 PM
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Buddy, Google is free. Again, here are some basic, fundamental terms you can begin studying in order to better understand wage stagnation and price point creations: -Price manipulations -price gouging -how minimum wage was created -wage stagnation in pink collar jobs -Market manipulation -macro versus micro economies -monopolies versus oligopolies -how societal and cultural variables impact local and global economies -corruption indexes -ethics in business/marketing -how supply chains are develo…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/23 08:56 PM
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As long as you communicate that need prior to entering the relationship then you have no problem. Some people will be insulted by the lack of trust upfront and will choose not to be in a relationship where that distrust is being demonstrated for major life milestones. Neither are wrong. It's all about personal boundaries and whether two individuals are truly compatible. Additionally, there are no paternity tests required for the daughters in our families so far. They all ended up being their dad…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/23 05:00 PM
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I appreciate that. 🙏
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/23 08:16 PM
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That being said, I know plenty of men who are good people and great partners. But they are in the minority in my experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/23 08:13 PM
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Oof, buddy. I grew up Christian fundamentalist. Believe me, we are not asking to be treated like royalty when we ask for equality.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/23 04:54 PM
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I've been with my husband for over 13 years and I'd rather be alone at this point. His companionship is only available only if we're doing the things he specifically likes to do. His affection is only when he wants something or he's fucked up royally. His love has always been conditional. And that's been the experience of most of the men in my life. I am only has good as the services I can provide for men. My own father included. And I see how so many men even treat their daughters the same way.…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/23 04:40 PM
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Why? Because you don't like when women understand the economy better than you do?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/23 03:04 AM
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The one where they proved there was a wage gap and it compared same job titles and experiences to identify it? The same conclusion Stat Can comes to every 4 years and which also accommodates for all the "women just choose different jobs and don't have a work life balance" variables?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/23 01:58 AM
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Again, statistics are not in your favour and all of this information and data is entirely available with one quick Google search. Feel free go do your research.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/23 09:36 PM
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We're getting thise answers in therapy and couple's counselling. He has a bit of a traumatic childhood because his dad is a sociopath. I've met him and I firmly believe this man absolutely has or would kill somebody and that's probably still not even the worst thing he'd have actually done. My husband now has control issues and I also have my own daddy issues thanks to basically growing up in a Christian fundamentalist household with an emotionally and financially abusive father. It was a match …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/23 09:23 PM
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I have a business marketing degree. There's more than enough data that tracks this throughout multiple industries where women start to become over representative. Healthcare is an excellent example because there's such a high demand for doctors and nurses and lack of pay to accommodate for them. Was it a bunch of sexists outright saying "women are worth less than men!"? No. Of course not. But it is a prevalent opinion that if a woman can do it then it must not be that difficult. Maybe you should…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/23 09:10 PM
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Those are pink collar industries where you can clearly track wage stagnation as women start to increasingly populate it.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/23 09:07 PM
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Because he also happens to be emotionally abusive. He's in therapy and taking counselling for domestic abuse and anger management but it's also not exactly an isolated experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/23 09:01 PM
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You're right. And nobody needs Healthcare or education, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/23 08:53 PM
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Yes, it can be. Manufactured demand is also an aspect. I have a marketing degree and you can track how these notions and the pink taxes even began to take shape. You can also learn about how often women were in charge of budgets and overall family finances throughout history. It's literally a brand new concept that women are terrible at managing money and it is specifically because of conservative values and capitalism that this was normalized. Have you also looked up women and Healthcare? How l…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/23 08:52 PM
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Unless there is a conspiracy against women or something I mean, you literally think women are frivolous spenders because conservative, traditional Republicans want the nuclear family to keep voting for them. It's not a conspiracy theory so much as marketing that ideology and certain brands profiting accordingly. Women buy those products anyway, regardless of quality or price, while men need better quality products and marketing to even consider them to be bought. Is there a cheaper male alternat…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/23 08:42 PM
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The answer is, we don't. It's why more women end up in poverty in their senior years than men. It's why married women with children are more likely to face wage discrimination. Don't even get me started on how much that gap increase when it comes to minority women. There is no data that supports your opinion that women are racking it in with divorce and Child support. Especially when you look at the average child support payments versus the cost to actually raise a child. Not to mention, how muc…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/23 08:33 PM
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I already do and if that was the only thing the pink tax affected then I would be incredibly lucky. Unfortunately, it's not. **Also, men's razors are way better than women's razors to boot. We pay more for inferior products constantly as women. They didn't even test real blood on tampons and pads until this fucking year for example.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/23 08:29 PM
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Again, yes. If it isn't a necessity, then yes, it is frivolous. And, again, no, it isn't part of maintenance. I know plenty of men who add body kits and modifications to their vehicles. My own husband bought an entire 6k hobby car just to play around with. He's spent another 2k on upgrades and upkeep plus insurance. He's owner it less than 2 weeks. We have a perfectly good functioning vehicle and don't need a second vehicle in any capacity. All his friends are constantly upgrading their trucks f…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/23 08:25 PM
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Women tend be in charge of our chasing household goods and managing bill payments so a lot of that spending can be attributed there. There's also the pink tax which means women pay more for the same products and Healthcare needs than men. Overall though, men spend more than women on hobbies and frivolous items. Women invest more in personal care but it also costs more to be a woman via items like the pink tax and the fact Healthcare isn't made with women's biological factors included means more …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/23 08:18 PM
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Women statistically spend little amounts more often than men but men are likely to spend more more by making larger purchases albeit less frequently. Men are more likely to indulge in frivolous spending essentially. Ie, vehicle purchases and upgrades, technology upgrades including gaming hobbies or more expensive hobbies like mountain biking or climbing, they spend more on vacations, shoes, etc vs a purse or a splurge on a Starbucks coffee while out and about.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/23 08:11 PM
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Yeah, because they're being under paid. Look up wage stagnation once women start to overpopulated an industry. Men will literally just normalize paying pink collar jobs less than paying women what they're worth.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/23 08:08 PM
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Also, none of the data is organized by sexual orientation.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/23 12:38 PM
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Women love sex. I have a higher libido than my husband and most of my exes. The issue is men shame women for enjoying sex so of course you'll see that in your dating lives. And when we do want to enjoy it, you don't care about our enjoyment. Or you don't do the work outside of sex to make women want to sleep with you. If you're not showing us we're valued outside of sex in Ling term relationships then it just feels degrading and a chore. Sex is complicated but not any more complicated than men n…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/23 02:18 PM
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I don't date to win. I date for long term compatibility.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/23 12:21 AM
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Okay, then you submit a formal manual on how every person on earth should interact with each other.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/23 05:28 PM
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Came here to say this. I've hit on guys who I thought were initially being open and receptive only to be turned down. There's no exact formula to guarantee an interaction for anybody, regardless of romantic intent or not.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/23 05:27 PM
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That's not actually true though. Gender norms aren't a biological factor lmao.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/23 08:05 PM
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I just rev the dirt bike until an intern is summoned. Then I hand him the jar and tell them not to make eye contact. It's almost like you've never been in an office before.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/23 10:58 PM
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No, I use it to open jars and to operate my computer. It's a tool. Not a toy.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/23 10:52 PM
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I often use my dirt bike at work and just to finish daily tasks so I definitely agree.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/23 10:35 PM
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My brother would talk about his back hair, his boners, his zits, his poops, his farts, etc. Why wouldn't we also talk about our periods?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/23 05:40 PM
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Eh, I don't think that's a make vs female situation. That's just youth. I know plenty of guys who focused on their social media use, couldn't walk by a mirror without checking themselves out, and always had to have the new kicks, video games, iPhone, etc. Statistically speaking, men tend to purchase more frivolity than women. Women make more little purchases while men purchase larger, more expensive items when it comes to unnecessary spending.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/23 05:39 PM
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My brother was the gold child (my dad was Christian fundamentalist) and that meant a lot of pressure on our personal relationship. My parents babied and enabled all his poor decisions while the girls were either ignored or did all the household chores, babysitting, car maintenance, landscaping, etc. We would maintain our vehicles just for my brother to call first dibs whenever he wanted one. Didn't matter what we needed it for, my brother would be handed it all on a silver platter. And it was re…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/23 05:34 PM
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I guess I'll just keep living my life unbothered then. Whew! Glad we cleared that up.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/23 01:39 PM
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It literally was my whole life. My dad used to be very strict with gender roles and female subservience. It sucked and I was miserable but I thought one day Gid would reward me for all my suffering and obedience. Then I became an adult, expanded my social circle beyond just church friends and people my parents approved of and finally got a chance to experience life outside of church. My dad didn't speak to me for over a year after I slept over for the first time at my now husband's house (with f…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/23 12:40 PM
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I've had more women than men ever step up when I got assaulted. I've actually rarely if ever seen a man interfere if other women are in that scenario. Women basically have a system to check on and step in when they see other women in trouble though.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/23 12:22 PM
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Oh sorry, I'll pretend like I care if that upsets you.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/23 12:16 PM
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Sorry, do you want women to give a shit if you date the latest pixel or not? Why is women not giving a shit about your sex life so offensive?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/23 12:08 PM
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I feel like you lack serotonin.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/23 12:07 PM
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Buddy, it'll still be better than dating someone like you.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/23 12:06 PM
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I'll write that in my diary that a random person on the internet doesn't like me. Do you think I'll need therapy to get over this trauma?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/23 12:05 PM
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Sure, hun.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/23 12:04 PM
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Healthy as a horse, thanks for for inquiring.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/23 01:11 AM
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I think a lot people don't understand that there is a time and a place to discuss issues. For example, I wouldn't go to an ovarian cancer charity event and accuse everyone there of not caring about men because they didn't include prostate cancer patients. A lot of people don't understand that half of being a good friend and just generally an emotionally intelligent person is that you need to provide a safe place to discuss struggles and to vent. That means not choosing that moment to pipe up and…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/23 11:35 PM
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Okay, bud. I'll let you know if any woman I ever encounter even mentions men potentially dating AI. Nobody gives a shit and I am sorry that is offensive to you for some reason. Also, what do you think real women are saying when men talk about dating AI? I am genuinely curious. Do you think we're gonna like "Burn Book" silicone valley or something? Is anyone trying to even stop them from being created (aside from the normal "should AI be invented at all" debate, of course. That's obviously still …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/23 10:40 PM
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Are you offended that a woman isn't judging you for your personal sexual preferences or something? Are you trying to play victim because the vast majority of woman are indifferent to your sex life?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/23 10:17 PM
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Haha, nope! I grew up Christian fundamentalist in a right wing family and taught to be subservient to men my entire life. These men literally just expected to be taken care of by the women in their entire lives. I just thought all men were angry idiots who couldn't manage simple household tasks because they didn't have the emotional intelligence to learn.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/23 10:00 PM
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I've had the same experiences with a lot of men who expected me to fulfill their mother's role. Shitty people exist no matter what gender they are. If you don't like it then go program a friend who won't ever disappoint you. Win-win.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/23 09:46 PM
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Chad thinks you are an inanimate object just as much as an incel, I can assure you of that. I don't know anyone named Chad but I'll keep that in mind if I meet one.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/23 09:44 PM
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I don't know a single woman who gives an iota of a shit about a complete stranger's sex life unless they were mentally unwell to begin with. If you want to date your microwave, your car or Siri on your phone, most people do not give a shit. We are not jealous. We will not try and change your mind. We fully support your decisions and your pursuit to happiness. Nobody is offended. Nobody is going to therapy because "all the 'good men' would rather date AI than another human being" etc. To most wom…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/23 09:43 PM
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And? Why do I care about a complete stranger's sex life?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/23 09:23 PM
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Human ones.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/23 08:34 PM
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No need to lie and manipulate women when you can buy an affordable substitute for a toxic relationship where nobody gets hurt and these men can continue on practicing one sided relationships. Win-win in my books.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/23 08:09 PM
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I confidentially feel like passport bros and AI gfs don't have the emotional intellect to have a mature romantic relationship. And my feelings=facts.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/23 07:09 PM
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Human woman here: No, we genuinely don't care. Have your AI gfs. I hope they even develop (affordable) physical bodies for you guys one day. I agree, this is a good thing as it keeps men who already view women as inanimate objects strictly with their own kind.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/23 07:07 PM
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Right!? Like, this one dude responded like "oh well, alcohol was involved, everyone's inhibitions were dropped" and I'm like...I've never assaulted anyone while drunk. I'm pretty sure if you commit ancrime while drunk it is still a crime. Like...what?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/23 01:51 PM
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Buddy, I got stalked while just walking the street all the way home from work several times before. And I had a guy follow me home on the bus from high-school and stalk me for 3 years after I told him no. This isn't just drunk idiots being goofy. Bad people don't just wait until night time to victimize people lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/23 05:24 AM
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One time someone tried to run me over with their truck when I turned them down while bar hopping with a girl friend. Literally just yelled out of his truck to get in (he was a complete stranger with no prior interactions). Another time, a friend of a friend (who was freshly married might I add) asked me to give him a bj in the alley behind the restaurant. He slapped me when I declined and askEd him what his wife would think. No men ever interfered, including literal bouncers and the police once.…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/23 05:16 AM
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Okay, then that's where you're losing everyone. A baddie is someone whose confident in their sexuality and style no matter what they're wearing. Being a baddie explicitly means not giving a shit about what a man thinks of her and her appearance. This is probably why you're not going to convince a baddie to give up her lifestyle for random male approval.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/23 07:11 PM
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Lmao, what is a baddie to you, hun?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/23 04:46 PM
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Honestly, a lot of men do this. And they feel enabled by men like you spouting how women need to change for them the moment they enter a relationship. You're a great example of a controlling jealous man!
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/23 11:35 AM
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This is the same font as "You can be an atheist and still believe in God" lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/23 11:33 AM
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OK, statistically, and personally, women in their 30s aren't interested in subpar men. That is the conclusion. You arguing from an emotional standpoint is just a moot point. Your opinion doesn't negate the fact human women are telling you directly we'd rather be alone than with someone who doesn't value us. If that is shocking to you, that says more about you than the women you're complaining about.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/23 02:44 AM
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I agree. And a great indicator of a selfish person is someone who intentionally targets barely legal women specifically because they want to take advantage of their inexperience and naivitie. I agree!
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/23 08:57 PM
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No, that's just the logical result of telling women they're not worth anything as they age.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/23 05:29 PM
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That woman you idolize at 20 is going to have the same shitty experiences as that woman you're trashing for being used up in her 30s. I do find it funny that so many men always think they're adding value to women's lives but other men are devaluing women to worthlessness. If men were such a valuable thing to have then why does having one devalue women so much?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/23 05:26 PM
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I didnt mean all older women want men, some are delusional I guess. But a larger portion of older women want a man compared to that of younger women Maybe 10 years ago but most women my age now aren't prioritizing men anymore. They'll divorce if the relationship no longer adds value to their lives. Idk why you are using a personal anecdote where you consciously chose a partner that ended up being bad for you to generalize all men.. There are plenty of men out there that provide all of the things…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/23 05:23 PM
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Okay, and most mature people, looking to create stability in their lives, don't want to be shouldered with a partner who shirks their responsibilities and prioritizes their own desires over communal goals. I know plenty of people who can enjoy a good time in moderation. I happily will get day drunk with friends and go wild and I'm 34 and married and a mother. And I have younger single friends for that reason as well. The difference is the men I'm talking about don't understand moderation and the…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/23 05:18 PM
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The 40 year old dating a 26 year old is successful careerwise. And he likes to go out and party like he's 19 still. He does coke, drinks on weeknights and surrounds himself with boy's boys who won't question how he treats the women in his life. He's honestly one of the most immature people I know and he loves his younger women for a reason.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/23 05:04 PM
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You know that 20 year old has to turn 30 too, eventually, right? Lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/23 04:47 PM
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As an older woman (mid 30s) exiting a toxic, emotionally abusive marriage, I'd rather be alone than date another man. Men aren't some big prize for women. You're supposed to be our partners. If you can't provide respect, kindness, and companionship then what value do you actually have for us? Hard pass
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/23 04:46 PM
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You don't think most older men think the same? I know somebody who just had a baby with her older boyfriend. The guy is unwilling to do more than minimum wage jobs and is insanely jealous of her. Most age gap relationships I know are problematic and the men are incredibly emotionally and financially stunted. It feels a lot like they target younger women intentionally because they have that same immaturity. I know another guy who is 40 dating a 26 year old. He onviously withheld from her that he …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/23 04:43 PM
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"The study is not yet peer-reviewed, but at least the results are on track to be properly scrutinized." It'll be cool when we find out the results.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/23 08:17 PM
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And that joke doesn't necessarily have any basis in reality, considering women gain social clout for making "men ain't shit" comments that have no actual support. Oof. Bud. I've experienced it myself. It's far more common than most men will admit lmao Only because if these women admitted that men weren't uniformly terrible they'd have to do some introspection. We don't think all men are terrible. We think selfish men who aren't interested in pleasing their partners are a waste of time and we wil…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/23 07:07 PM
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Sure bud. I think this post is a great example of what women face when it comes to communicating their needs. This entire post is women communicating that men also need to communicate and listen to women if they want to retain their partners. It's a literal joke amongst women that men will rub the left labia over a clit and argue with you when you don't orgasm. I've literally had a guy debate me over whether I came or not. Like, most men's inability and unwillingness to communicate productively …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/23 06:57 PM
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She told him what? That she wasn't satisfied? Let me guess, and then she huffed and said "you should just know" when asked what she was into? Lmao, nope! But it checks out that is what most men would assume what happens. A lot of guys unfortunately don't get much positive feedback from their female partners, because for those female partners giving positive feedback is a turnoff (they want to be pursued, not give affection). So a lot of guys get used to it. Have you tried talking to a human woma…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/23 06:47 PM
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I met his exgf. She definitely told him. He told me she told him. These men literally tell on themselves at this point lmao. And I communicated the crap out of our sex life. It means shit if they don't want to listen. Also, why would you even want to have sex with someone who isn't even enjoying it? That's creepy af
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/23 06:38 PM
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Buddy, women are just as capable of getting themselves off and guaranteeing themselves an orgasm. Why would we waste that effort on a unappreciative and uncaring partner who only prioritizes their own pleasure during sex? I'd rather just masturbate and call it a day lol
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/23 05:46 PM
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Cool, not exactly accurate as I've had experiences with partners who couldn't finish before but that's not exactly news to women. Our whole point is you can absolutely get yourself off by yourself but if you expect to have sex with a partner then you need to be responsible for communicating with your partner too. If you want a repeat performance, make sure your partner is also satisfied. If you just want to fuck until only you cum, disappoint your partner and then refuse to listen when they ask …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/23 04:57 PM
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You're not going to believe this but men are just as capable of communicating with their sexual partners as women are. Have you tried talking to your partner and having a discussion where you can both communicate your needs?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/23 04:39 PM
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Oof, buddy. As a human woman, I do find that idea hilarious. The clitoris has more nerves on it than the entire penis but women don't like sex? Lol ok
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/23 04:37 PM
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This is why women don't take it seriously when a lot of men tell women just need to communicate better. This is example A on why it's so hard to communicate with so many men what they need sexually. This whole post is covered in women telling men what they like sexually and there is still men like you telling us we don't even mean what we say. Women like sex. If you suck at sex and dont care about getting us off then we don't want to do it with you as a result. Being good looking will not make y…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/23 04:34 PM
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It took my husband 3 years of consistent communication to understand foreplay is required and you can't go straight into penetration after just making out for 2 minutes. It was only because of my own inexperience that I didn't break up with him after the first year of disappointing sex (he had multiple other partners before me who all gave him the exact same feedback). It took literally other men telling him that foreplay is important for it to even be incorporated in our sex lives. Most people …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/23 04:25 PM
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Yes, it is. Men don't realize that women often get the short end of the stick in relationships. We have to do all the roles while men largely feel like they only have to provide for their family and the duty is done. Why would we take on all those roles for someone who doesn't even appreciate it? Why would we intentionally make ourselves miserable so a man can enjoy the fruits of our labour's while offering nothing in return? I'd rather be single and career driven than unhappily married. And I'm…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/23 12:49 PM
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Buddy, they do. But they always think they found a loophole lol
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/23 02:16 AM
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Mixed backgrounds usually. I knew a jehovahs witness and mormon at my high-school.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/23 01:38 AM
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Mormons literally use "soaking" to have sex in college.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/23 12:45 AM
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I didn't have TV, actually. Most Christian fundamentalists either have heavily monitored internet and TV privileges or none at all. That was certainly the case for us growing up.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/23 10:02 PM
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Again, I was taught not to educate myself when it came to sexual education. I was told it was dirty and should only be studied in the confines of marriage. And that's not an isolated opinion. Look at most modern Christian fundamentalist influencers. You can quote them on that lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/23 07:37 PM
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Stop using family planning as a synonym for baby slaughter, it‘s disgusting. That's a you issue. If you don't like abortions then don't have one. The rest of civilized society doesn't care about your religious opinions. Everybody knows how it works. To say poor people get babies cause they don‘t know what a condom is is just disingenuous. Be better. Buddy, this is pretty easy to identify. And I'm saying it's also lack of access to affordable family planning options. That includes the costs of co…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/23 06:42 PM
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That's literally the biggest portion of the Conservative voting party demographic. There's massive Chrsitian universities operating within the USA and Canada. They aren't minorities lol. I know that because I can identify the different denominations and how fundamentalist they are and where they usually tend to stand on sex education.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/23 06:39 PM
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Yes, people are just born with medical knowledge and sex education. Lol Again, if you don't want welfare babies then provide resources and education to not have welfare babies. We literally can correlate more family planning options with healthier economies. Telling poor people they're not allowed to have sex has never worked lmao.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/23 06:33 PM
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I promise you, they aren't. I know plenty of Christian fundamentalists who were intentionally denied the basic information on their own bodies. Nobody even told me what a period was until I was literally having one in the middle of Christian summer camp. I thought I was dying one day because of that lack of education lmao And even then, I've had an oopsie baby after 2 forms of birth control failed. Accidental pregnancies aren't exactly rare and birth control fails quite a bit.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/23 06:32 PM
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My middle class sister-in-law have used the pull out method their whole lives. Their two oopsie babies are adults now. Also, yeah, poor people still have sex despite being poor. This isn't exactly a new realization. It's why the left pushes for accessible birth control options, better sex education opportunities and more education and economic opportunities for the lower income classes overall. If anything, Conservatives policies are ensuring poor people keep having unprotected sex and refusing …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/23 06:17 PM
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Buddy, I grew up Christian fundamentalist in Canada. My parents and the community I grew up in literally took pride in denying their children sex education. I thought the balls and the penis were attached together until I was like 20 years old. Yeah, not everyone knows better.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/23 06:14 PM
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Well, women were legally deemed property through massive portions of our history. Women didn't even get the right to own a credit card until the 1980's. Like, yeah, women weren't exactly given equal footing as men and it shows now that women are able to participate in the trajectory of our own lives.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/23 05:35 PM
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Poor people tend to lack access to sex education, family planning and economic opportunities. It just makes sense that people who don't know how to prevent pregnancy or can't afford to prevent pregnancy (ie, birth control, abortions, condoms, vasectomies or tubal ligation are all expensive if you're on minimum wage) will usually end in a pregnancy as a result. And that's been consistent throughout history. Now you know.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/23 05:33 PM
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Yeah? A lot of gay men aren't settling down either. Lol
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/23 03:08 PM
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Iunno man. Less women are dating men which means more single women overall. That means less women hetero sexual relationships statistically which could accommodate for the 40% difference considering it's a much smaller sample size.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/23 04:31 AM
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Did everyone forget about lesbians existing?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/23 04:29 AM
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You're right. Sometimes it isn't. Thankfully we all know nobody is owed your affection, time or attention just for existing. I agree.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/23 03:49 PM
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Buddy, nobody gives a shit about those things. When you're intentionally cruel or lying about your intentions then people get upset. This isn't rocket science.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/23 01:45 PM
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Single child free women are dedicated their careers and own happiness. Same as single child free men. Or are only men allowed to be selfish with their time, attention and money?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/23 01:24 AM
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Tbh square jaw, minimum 6 feet height, hunter eyes, intact hairline and well-built body these are standard features which are sought after and liked +/- personal preferences. Not my cup of tea but you go for it! I like big noses, big foreheads, glasses, little pot bellies, 5'4 and up preferably (I'm 5'7 for reference) and I like skinny legs. I do like a jawline but not a square one. Like Adrian Brody type looking dude. Mt Sister married a Wish version of Joey Fatone and she adorss him as well. i…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/23 01:06 PM
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Yeah, and we all have our own definition of good looking so thankfully men get a chance when they have a good personality too. Win-win.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/23 12:46 PM
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I am a human woman who had a baby. I understand how that works, hun. Nature doesn't dictate shit or else abusive and negligent mothers wouldn't be getting their kids taken away lmao Buddy, these dynamics did fall out of the sky. Do you think slavery was organic too? Lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/23 07:42 PM
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Why would it make sense for nature to make women less capable at raising kids than men when women birth them? Is nature some sort of corporation? What is it making us do exactly? Don’t forget in nature days dude has zero responsibility to stick around. Why wouldn’t nature make men become super attached to the women the impregnate if raising the kid was so crucial for him Okay, go live in the woods then and be a part of nature. The rest of society will use common sense and reasoning to progress a…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/23 06:42 PM
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Because children are liabilities. They are like boats. You keep spending money on them. You enjoy them. You are not expecting a return. That's ehy you only get a fine when you damage them. You know, like property. It's only dehumanizing if I'm also not being an asset to her. Did you miss the entire tangent about getting a return based on what you put into it? The difference is you think adding value is the same as "being an asset". It's literally just nuanced terminology that. I get most men won…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/23 05:50 PM
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Asset implies object. I don't call my child an asset so why should I call my partner one? I don't call my friends an asset. My boss does call me an asset though. Ultimately, it's nuanced terminology that doesn't benefit anyone to use. I like my partner adding value to my life but it's not his job to focus on being an asset. There's no monetary equivalent to him providing value to my life. I don't lose ah asset if we divorce. I am just divorced in that case. Iunno, it's just further dehumanizing …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/23 05:32 PM
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Women have always been the main caretakers because they gave birth to the children. That's not true. We see that now that we have the tools to decipher ancient skeletons better. Gender is a new construct. Most ancient civilizations didn't believe in gender roles and uniformed child rearing. . Men are stronger on average because they were the hunters and protectors Women are better when it comes to stamina and survival skills. The ancient hunter and gatherer tribes had a pretty diverse mix when i…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/23 04:16 PM
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Studies show that on average, women are better caretakers than men. Yeah, because we're expected to be from birth. Of course we're conditioned to be better caretakes. It's always been optional for men and largely mandatory for women. This is because women and men’s Brains are built slightly differently. This doesn’t mean that you have to follow this all the time, but on average this will be the case. Every individual brain is built slightly differently. It's not a female vs male issue. It's an i…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/23 04:12 PM
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Well, biologically speaking, the only thing women are better at is breastfeeding and incubating a fetus. My husband is the best father I've ever seen and he's genuinely much more maternal than I am. Same with my brother. There is no biological indication that men make shitty parents. We've just socially conditioned men to think they suck so they might as well not even try. Plenty of dads raised phenomenal children by themselves no problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/23 03:20 PM
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2.Another point- Truth is, women find it hard to accept the fact that they are depreciating assets, so they do all this drama to change the narrative. I did the same to my brother and dad. Of course, I lost the argument while mom is just blue-pilled. Well, last I checked I have a soul and my happiness is not tied to the value others find in me. My husband isn't an asset. He's not an object to aquire and control and neither am I. And having been treated like an asset throughout my entire life and…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/23 03:18 PM
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It's called having "tact". If you are saying "me preference is the only valid preference and you're disgusting if you don't meet my specific criteria" then you're just an asshole. If you go on a date, or get offered one from one and you find out you're not attracted to the other participant, why would you rub it in their face? I've been turned down before and as long as the guy was kind and not an asshole about it, there was no problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/23 02:05 PM
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Ew a human woman
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/23 12:05 PM
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No they just need to pay their fair share in taxes, why is woman paying their share in society so offensive to you? We should just start taxing the babies. That would make more sense since men shouldn't be held accountable for ejaculated and causing pregnancy. This argument have nothing in relation to what you're replying, men contribute a surplux in taxes. Again, how? Sources? Is it just because they don't have the reproductive organs to host a pregnancy? It do not matters if they're getting st…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/23 09:40 PM
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Not necessary, if the woman is a single mother the chances are that the men she rises will be a productive member of society is low and if she raise a daughter is very likely the daughter itself will be a single mother repeating the cycle. Women also aren't having babies so the argument is not failed in multiples sides. So youre saying women make fenale babies who will statistically might also get pregnant?!? How will we stop the cycle of females reproducing while still repopulating the work for…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/23 08:08 PM
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Okay, what aren't we getting taxed on? Let me know because I still haven't figured it out. Do babies not contribute to the working population? Can men reproduce without children and childbirth? Would love to see the data on that. Also, did women invent STDs and are just hoarding them? Are babies supposed to be born with STDs? I have a lot of questions.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/23 07:41 PM
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AuThoR’S mAin mESSAgE Three mechanisms influence the fertility decision of educated women: (1) the relatively higher incomes and thus higher income forgone due to childbearing leads them to want fewer children. The better care these women give increases their children’s human capital and reduces the economic need for more children; (2) the positive health impacts of education, on both women and their children, mean women are better able to give birth and children’s higher survival rate reduces t…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/23 06:11 PM
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What am I getting from the government? Don't I pay taxes on tampons while men get prescribed viagra tax free? Is there a card I need to show? Are there only some roads only women are allowed to use?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/23 06:08 PM
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Buddy, that's one of the things I encourage to help improve people reproducing. A liveable wage. How did they get it? By coming together as a collective group to negotiate en masse to unionize instead of fighting for individual rights. Its one of the key examples of Marxist philosophy. Unionize the workforce for communal gain. You're just proving my point. That's exactly what people should be doing. Thank you.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/23 06:06 PM
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Yeah, they unionized and it's at the end of a 5 year contract. What's unionizing again? Isn't that...gasp...socialist*** ?!?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/23 05:59 PM
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I'm just pointing out that any time we see population booms throughout history it's do to many if not all of the following reasons: Taxed the wealthy their fair share Provided ample social services to families for support and family planning Supported the growth of the middle class Increased government oversight of banking regulations and lending policies Increased educational standards Invested in medical care and offered cheap/affordable solutions Took issues like climate change and internatio…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/23 05:58 PM
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Many people in the postwar era looked forward to having children because they were confident that the future would be one of comfort and prosperity. In many ways, they were right: Corporations grew larger and more profitable, labor unions promised generous wages and benefits to their members, and consumer goods were more plentiful and affordable than ever before. As a result, many Americans felt certain that they could give their families all the material things that they themselves had done wit…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/23 04:44 PM
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None of what you said makes sense when the poorest least educated and unhealthiest women tend to have the most children. Yeah, that's due to a lack of education and opportunities for a lot of those women. I know plenty of women with big families and stable relationships too. Most don't have the funds or support to pursue post secondary. The poorest and most unhealthy women still have the most babies. Again, a lack of opportunity and access to education and social resources. Of course these women…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/23 04:39 PM
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Okay, or we can make children more affordable so everyone can have them instead. Ie, not having to dedicate ~75% of your income to housing costs. The unregulated food and gas prices constantly skyrocketing. Daycare is an entire paycheck and competitive to get into. Medical care and sick days are scarce and largely unaffordable. No social services and high infant mortality rates for American minority women is also an issue. As a Canadian, I got free house calls for the first month after my daught…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/23 04:08 PM
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Where do the taxes off my paycheck go? Am I not supposed to be paying taxes? What?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/23 04:01 PM
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Iunno, we say hi sometimes on Instagram but as long as they're happy, I'm happy. No hard feelings imo.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/23 03:14 PM
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I grew up alongside wealthy, entitled men. Hard pass.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/23 12:29 PM
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Do you know how many men think foreplay is optional? Or that women orgasming is a myth? Or that women don't even like sex? Like, what? You're just telling on yourself when you post things like this lmao.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/23 11:27 AM
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Considering most custody cases are settled amicably in mediation, that just further reflects on men when they're absent. Men are more likely to get custody when they actually apply for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/23 06:14 PM
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I've worked in blue collared jobs my whole life. I'm currently in construction still under the home warranty department. I know it's easier to work construction than be a stay at home parent. It's also more rewarding and there's far more social benefits than being stuck at home babytalking for 24 hours a day. Also, even getting into construction/mechanics/business was a struggle. Almost nobody paid a fair wage, there was a struggle even to get hired as sexism is rampant including with hiring pra…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/23 06:03 PM
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Cool, I find working to be much more rewarding and enjoyable than parenting. How did you feel about the hourly breastfeeding pumping schedule? How was your post pregnancy recovery? Multiple kids? Any health issues for said kids? Any PPD? And yeah, not everyone wants to be a stay at home parent. I hated being the primary stay at home parent. It's different for everyone. A lot of the women complaining about these men don't have an equitable partner to help them. There's a really good post about a …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/23 05:52 PM
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. If the man is making enough that the woman doesn’t have to work, they should be able to afford a babysitter once or twice a week for the parents to have me time and go on a date or whatever. And if the stay at home parent needs a night or weekend away, then that also should be factored in. This isn't a gender specific issue. It's a primary earner versus a stay at home parent division of labour and recreational time issue. The dad says ok thanks for telling me, and takes some money out of savin…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/23 04:16 PM
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I did no problem. Most women will as well. Can a gay man buy your physical affection? Would you do it for a woman you were physically repulsed by? This idea that women can both be too picky with men but simultaneously able to shut off attraction at the mere mention of a consistent paycheck (that there's no guarantee will even support them) is insane. Men are capable, intelligent creatures. If someone is incompatible with you lifestyle then don't date them. Easy.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/23 04:11 PM
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While it would be simple manners for the guy to take care of it, I feel the picking up clothes and taking back the dishes is a small price to pay for having to never have a job again. Most women are employed. Especially in this economy. If you're the stay at home partner, you should obviously carry more of the domestic labour but kids are also a 24/7 job too. Making both partners have access to equal down time is key regardless of employment status.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/23 04:07 PM
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I'll share my own story with opiates. I was engaged to my now husband when I got into 2 car accidents where my spine was severely damaged. I requested specifically not to be put on opiods because I hate them. I don't have a great reaction to them and the side effects aren't worth the effort imo. My doctor prescribed me a "stronger advil" to manage my pain plus muscle relaxers. I began to use them consistently and because of my severe depression I never looked into my medications and nobody menti…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/23 11:03 PM
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As a Canadian woman who visited Australia, I didn't want guys to buy me free drinks there anyways. Where I'm from in Canada, we'd buy each other drinks and there would be no expectations beyond that. We'd use it as an opportunity to socialize and get to know somebody new. Occassionally something romantic might happen but there was largely no sexual expectations if a man bought you a drink and you accepted. That being said, if a man bought me a drink and if they weren't absolutely creeps (ie, sex…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/23 04:40 PM
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Then go date an older man. You do you, boo.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/23 03:56 PM
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Sure, hun.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/23 03:50 AM
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I'm literally married, bro. Been with my husband for over 13 years. Being in a relationship didn't cure his depression and low self esteem, hun. Going to therapy and self improvement did.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/23 03:50 AM
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You can literally buy that. Therapy offers empathy, kindness, compassion and companionship. Getting a hobby does the same thing. Go find a social group to join. What exactly are you missing by having a girlfriend that will magically cure your depression? Also, do you think it's healthy to burden your partner with your entire mental health load and refusing to do the work yourself? How can you genuinely have a healthy relationship while refusing to develop the emotional intelligence not to share …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/23 01:35 AM
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Choose to be pedantic because is unable to grasp basic concepts like the fact that 1 happening with a small%chance is a excuse to be a horrible human being. I agree. Red pillers should really have more empathy considering that belief you just shared. I don't hate all men because a few assaulted me throughout my lifetime. I have lots of male friends and family members that I am close with and I trust to even look after my daughter. Just because men can be a threat doesn't mean they all are. But i…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/23 01:32 AM
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Isn't this the same sub that says women denying them sex is why men kill themselves?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/23 11:43 PM
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I've found 5$ in a bench once, this means that I can leave my job and live by getting money out random places right? Did the $5 corner you in an alley and beat the shit out of you giving you PTSD as a result? So the men they choose? Those weren't rejected, in fact, the oppose. I got stalked by a man on the bus who commented on my purse in high-school. We said like 5 sentences total to each other before he watched where I got off at my stop and followed me home. Cue a year of death threats and st…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/23 10:36 PM
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I mean, I have been assaulted and stalked unrpovoked by random men before. I don't know many women who haven't.Obviously I haven't been murdered yet. I do personally know a few women who were murdered by abusive partners when they tried to leave. One woman is still missing while her exbf (the only suspect who made public threats about making his ex disappear) walks free. Do men not realize this is almost a universal experience for women yet?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/23 09:13 PM
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Yes, because the first ever crime was only recorded after women got the right to vote. Lmao. This made me laugh. Thank you!
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/23 08:22 PM
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Absolutely. Lol
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/23 05:35 PM
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I've had the police literally watch an assault in progress and drive away I've tried reporting and they wouldn't even take a statement.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/23 04:00 PM
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Women are free to reject what they want, men are not entitled to sex and women are not entitled to male protection or resources or friendship or help either. We know that. That's why we don't give a shit what you think about how we approach our safety. If more men gave a shit then maybe more women would be open to being approached. Instead, we get this feedback and we just nod our heads and go "cool, way to confirm the obvious". For the record, a man has never interfered when I was in trouble. O…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/23 03:59 PM
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I got slapped in the face in the middle of a crowded bar while the bartender and bouncer made eye contact with me and did nothing. My crime? Telling a complete stranger I didn't want to give him a bj in the alley. My husband literally had tried to flag down cops because some roid rage bouncer was choking out a drunk woman asking to use the bathroom in a Shwarma shop and he didn't like her asking more than twice. Literally in the middle of the street and the cops just drove by. I've been grabbed …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/23 03:57 PM
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No, hotness doesn't negate assaulting someone. Are there crazies out there who fall in love with serial killers? Sure. But that isn't exactly a female trait either. Karla Homolka and Casey Anthony would be a excellent examples of idiots pursuing bad people for example. And fantasies are fantasies for a reason. Just because someone watches football or wears their favourite sports teams jersey doesn't mean they want to be tackled in the street by a stranger.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/23 03:54 PM
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Are women assaulting/murdering/stalking men en masse when they reject them? Just curious what those stats look like.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/23 03:50 PM
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So you're saying the men are typically the first ones to check out. I don't think that's the case. I think both parties check out together. I don't think all men do this but yeah. For example, my husband promised to get a vasectomy after our daughter was born. He watched me try every birth control on the market. And I suffered severely. Then we had some pregnancy scares and he kept promising the vasectomy. He went on trips and weekends away with his friends. He had boys nights out regularly. He …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/23 03:19 PM
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Yeah, of course. Because alot of men will assume women can live with a tolerable amount of unhappiness. While their wives and partners are taking care of kids, cleaning and working to help support the family, the men have checked out. My marriage is in this situation right here. I communicated my needs, I was patient, I offered support, I asked for an iota of the same effort I put in and nothing. The moment I said " I can't live like this anymore. It's been 13 years of promises and no delivery. …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/23 02:42 PM
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He's emotionally and verbally abusive so don't be.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/23 12:08 PM
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Buddy, most women withdraw affection because they're exhausted working 24/7 with a partner who doesn't help. I know those women. Their love and affection didn't fade overnight. They stopped when their partners didn't step up. Are there some assholes that bait and switch? Absolutely. But women don't hate sex. We just need to feel an emotional connection to do it. If you're not providing that then don't expect sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/23 12:07 PM
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Yeah, it points to a grammatical error which slightly skews the data based on publicly available research. It basically says take it with a grain of salt and that Dolan got lucky that the data he analyzed was based off of public information.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/23 01:50 AM
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As a married woman, I was definitely happier single. Please provide the sourcing for your claims.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/23 10:39 PM
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That's largely self-inflicted. I grew up in the early 2000's and nobody was pressuring men to lose their v-cards except other men really. The odd asshole teenage girl would probably chime in but that's teenagers in general. I also got hassled at that age for not having sex as a teenage girl too. I think being so susceptible to peer pressure to the point where tou have sex you don't even want to have is far more problematic than telling someone you regret having sex with half your partners. That'…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/23 10:36 PM
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Nope, he's welcome to express how he feels but that doesn't make it any less problematic. Even if you were to reverse the genders it would still be problematic. Having sex for clout is problematic behaviour for the vast majority of people.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/23 08:02 PM
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I think if you feel the need to be honest about this, you should. Because it'll definitely warn a woman what to expect with you and clearly that is a whole lot of regret.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/23 07:55 PM
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Yuuuup. I have to ask permission just to do my hobby. It has to have a designated time and place. People suck sometimes.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/23 07:52 PM
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We get blamed if men act poorly so of course we're going to protect ourselves. So many of you play devil's advocate that we can't tell who the real devil's are anyways. I got blamed on this sub for being vulnerable to an abusive partner. Men on this sub regularly blame women for simply not picking the perfect partner despite knowing these men are the problem, not the victims of these men. So don't tell us to choose better and then get hurt when you don't make the cut because you're spouting off …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/23 07:10 PM
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Cool, then set those boundaries. I do with my girl friend's all the time. Everyone is different. Thanks for sharing!
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/23 07:00 PM
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I know what you mean. My husband is anal about chores and cleaning. I am okay with a little bit of mess (I was actually a clean freak growing up) but if I don't put the dishes away exactly how he likes them, he blows up. Same with the table clothe. Or if I wait to do something or I'm in the middle of something else, he wants me to drop everything to focus on whatever he wants done. It is exhausting.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/23 06:44 PM
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A lot of men wait until the woman is trapped legally, financially or with children before withdrawing from their domestic duties. Plus, it was normal for my dad growing up to never loft a finger while mom and the daughters did everything. Indoctrination starts young.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/23 06:35 PM
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I was a virgin until I was 20/21 and then it was ~2-3 months without sex as I met my now husband at the tail end of 21 and he's been consistent except for the ocassional long distance bouts dur to work/school.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/23 06:22 PM
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Newsflash: we don't give a shit. We get shit on if we treat men like they treat each other and we get shit on if we try and demonstrate the friendships we enjoy to men. At this point, this is just a "you problem" and you need to develop your emotional intelligence to realize you can't control other people and how they express their friendships. If you don't like it then don't be friends with those people.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/23 05:53 PM
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I hold my girl friend's hands sometimes or hug them occassionally. I take an interest in them and what they have to say. I offer emotional and verbal support. I give them gifts for special occasions or just because I'm thinking about them. I send them funny memes/jokes/thoughts throughout the day. I asked them about their struggles and check in to offer support. I give them compliments and make sure they know they look good and try and boost their confidence. I plan special events like birthday …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/23 05:51 PM
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No, it is. So many men refuse to work on their emotional intelligence so any sort of non-toxic communication gets labeled as flirting. And even if it is some asshole looking for attention (which isn't a gender specific trait btw) you are still just as capable in setting up healthy boundaries in your relationships as women. If it makes you uncomfortable then communicate that discomfort. If they don't stop the behaviour and it's escalating then remove yourself from the friendship.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/23 05:47 PM
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Again, all those things they described in the post women do to each other. Also, if you don't like it then set up healthy boundaries so you don't get roped into it. That's also part of friendships.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/23 05:44 PM
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Again, giving you a compliment isn't flirting. I don't think my boss is flirting with me when he tells me I did a good job. I don't think my friend is flirting with me when she tells me I look nice today. I would argue it's toxic to be such a negative influence on your friends and family where you intentionally misinterpret very obvious human bids for connection as "flirting".
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/23 05:32 PM
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See, when women say these things, we don't just target men. Men think they're deserving of hoarding this concentrated positive attention from women. The reality is we say it to everyone and we don't differentiate. We're not leading you on, we are just trying to be good examples of what a non-superficial friendship looks like. I don't assume a woman is hitting on me because she complimented my dress. And when women do hit on me, it was absolutely more direct and very definitively flirtatious. Men…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/23 05:30 PM
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No, you are misinterpreting our friendships. Other women can figure it out. Lesbians and gay men have no problem differentiating the two. It's almost like there's one outlier here and it's not women.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/23 05:27 PM
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I don't understand this run on sentence.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/23 05:24 PM
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Statistically, if we're in relationships we are unhappy. Single and career driven are the happiest demographics for women.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/23 05:23 PM
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You're right. If men can't respect how women show their friendships then they shouldn't be friends with women. I treat my male friends the same way I treat my female friends. They get compliments, I take an interest in their accomplishments and personal goals, I uplift them, i discuss their problems with them and offer emotional support, etc. This is how women treat friendships. If that is too much for you to handle then don't be friends with women.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/23 05:23 PM
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Yeah, but saying "you look handsome today" or "I like that red shirt on you" are things we say to our friends. Men just think any positive comment is flirting because their friendships don't incorporate uplifting each other that way. It's not rocket science, bro.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/23 05:21 PM
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Buddy, I fish for compliments with my female friends all the time. To be fair, most times we just offer compliments to each other so we don't have to usually fish alot. What's being fileted with btw?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/23 04:57 PM
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So many men mistake friendship for romantic interest. I act the same way I do with my guy friends as I do with my girl friends. Just because your guy friendships are superficial and not intimate doesn't mean women have to change how they approach friendships. Get over yourselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/23 04:56 PM
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You're right. We are spoiled. We finally have the option to just be alone and be happy instead of settling for an unhappy relationship. It's truly been a blessing.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/23 03:17 PM
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Nope, not what I said at all. I said red pillers hate women and we will be able to tell eventually no matter how hard you try and hide it. Nobody can talk about another human being that way and still convincingly pretend you love them.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/23 03:16 PM
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Even if men raise their standards, women won't date you. We just don't want someone who hates us a partner. You can try and hide it, but eventually your utter disdain for women will creep out and your partner will notice.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/23 12:47 PM
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Buddy, my whole point is that all the men in my life already do the emotional legwork to maintain their interpersonal relationships. That's how I know they are capable of it without being in a romantic relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/23 09:02 PM
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I grew up Christian fundamentalist. All these young bride and grooms I got to witness in my late teens, early 20s are largely on their second marriages now. Marriage isn't mandatory to live a fulfilling life and we need to stop pretending like the solution to all our problems is sex and a relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/23 06:57 PM
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I'm saying a lot of men will goose their female partners. I've had it happen unprovoked and inrequested. I know plenty of women who've also experienced it lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/23 05:31 PM
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Not for me. I prefer less than 10 partners. I've only ever had 2 and I'm mid-thirties so I feel like that's not unreasonable.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/23 04:47 PM
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Women everywhere would be dropping dead then. Lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/23 04:46 PM
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I chose the wrong partner and it taught me it's better to be alone than suffer in a toxic relationship. Also, have you tried building up those relationships around you so you're not alone? A lot of guys put absolutely no effort into any relationship, (family, friends, or partner even) and then they expect this magical wife to come in and gift them all this emotional intelligence they spent years creating and maintaining. And then those partners get sucked dry because they're compensating for the…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/23 04:00 PM
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I met my husband through friends. They introduced us at a party. Most of my exes were the same. If my friends can vouch for you then I am more comfortable getting to know you.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/23 03:34 PM
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I mean, red pillers do but not everyone is as vocal about their views on relationships and women.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/23 03:10 PM
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Cool, I've also been mugged at knifepoint (I'm Canadian but this was in Europe so guns aren't as big a factor). I'm also not scared of that and I do find it ridiculous as well. However, are you constantly being mugged? Threatened with muggings? Do people use muggings to control your romantic relationships? Do your parents raise you to always fear muggings and just protect yourself just in case? Did the police believe you when you reported your mugging? Did your friends and family tell you that y…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/23 05:24 PM
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Oh, you mean finding out if we are fundamentally compatible and have communal life goals that won't cause conflict during stressful times in the relationship? Yes, that would be common sense. I don't commit to a partner until I know we have enough in common that I can see a long term relationship with them. Why wouldn't you do that if you intend to eventually get engaged, get married and possibly raise a family together? I don't get why this is such a hard concept for some men. You could be Brad…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/23 05:13 PM
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Men are more likely to engage in aggressive behaviour in general. They'll challenge other men a lot of times. The assaults on women are often unprovoked. That's just a statistical fact. So yeah, it is a rational fear. I've almost been run over, I've been stalked, I've been physically hit, I've been verbally abused, etc by men who didn't handle a simple "no thank you" with dignity and respect. So despite your optimistic opinion, I will stick with my lived experience because being cautious and mak…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/23 05:08 PM
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Ever turned down a guy and they immediately got physical? Most women have experienced that. It's specifically why women can't be honest with men. We can't trust that you're not going to harm us. And we know #NoTaLlMeN but that doesn't mean the one time we trust that we can be honest that it won't be a death sentence. It just takes one.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/23 05:01 PM
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We are aware. We know what we find attractive, what the "ick factor" means, etc. This idea that women aren't whole people capable of reason and introspection is just some weird red pill nonsense to justify crossing our boundaries. We know what we want. And it's not you. The issue is that men think they can negotiate sexual attraction when it was never there to begin with. A lot of red pillers think that you can harrass a woman into submission and dominate the relationship and that's the criteria…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/23 04:58 PM
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Yes. I'm also getting my tubes tied. I'm killing any potential children by de facto by your same logic.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/23 04:19 AM
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Honestly, no. It's a healthy relationship and career driven over married and miserable with no financial means of leaving. I say that as a married mother with a career.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/23 01:21 AM
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I'd rather be employed and divorced than unemployed and married.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/23 11:50 PM
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Canada: While the vast majority of females are victims of sexual assaults, an even higher percentage of males are the accused in these crimes. The 2002 Uniform Crime Reporting Survey showed that a larger proportion of 97% of accuseds in sexual assault cases were male, than males accused in all other types of violent offences (82%). Ibid. at 7..) USA: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sex_differences_in_crime Globally: https://www.unodc.org/unodc/en/data-and-analysis/global-study-on-homicide.html T…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/23 08:32 PM
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Most rapists are people you know. And a lot of those men are telling other men at the very least how they treat women. And a lot of rapes start as rape threats. I mean, have you ever even been sexually assaulted before? Its not all complete strangers pulling you into alleyways. A lot of times it's dudes who people will tell you to "ignore because he's joking and obviously he doesn't mean it".
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/23 08:18 PM
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How about 30 with dick pics and notes about how they're going to find out where you live and rape you?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/23 08:10 PM
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Do men wlecome sexually aggressive and persistent attention from other men then?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/23 07:56 PM
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Well, women aren't the predominant aggressors in 96% of murder and assault cases so there's also that factor that needs to be acknowledged.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/23 07:55 PM
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Because like anything that fails before it starts, you mourn the potential, not what it is in its current state. I don't tell people I have an art degree because I painted a picture once. I can still mourn that experience I never got to have though.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/23 03:56 PM
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Good thing it was just a clump of cells then!
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/23 03:05 PM
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? Envision a scenario in which the man would be willing to have a child with the woman, but the woman would not be willing to have a child with the man: why is the burden of abstinence on the man, in that case? Isn't that the basic point of the original post in this thread? I do t have to envision it. That was me. I was upfront and told my now husband from day 1, if there's an accidental pregnancy before I'm ready I'm terminating it. I discussed it when we first starting getting intimate and I w…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/23 03:04 PM
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Ummm...whose saying men aren't allowed to feel something when a tough decision is being made? The problem I have with these men are they want to be the centre of attention when it's not their body being put through the ringer with abortions or pregnancy. And I say that because my own husband and I had a pregnancy scare recently and I was literally telling him how scared I am to put my body through something like that and he said "you mean WE are going through this". He didn't really react kindly…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/23 12:30 PM
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I've had to support a friend through that experience. It's an incredibly difficult decision to make.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/23 12:21 PM
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Can't argue with a personal opinion, bud. There's no data for your emotional conclusions so why even pretend like this is a serious discussion?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/23 01:11 PM
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Oh, sorry, I don't think your personal opinion is considered a valid argument to the vast majority of the population. My bad, I should've been clearer that all women aren't Only Fans creators and porn stars and 50+ body counts aren't exactly the norm to begin with for most adults. I shouldn't have assumed you'd know that due to your clear inexperience in interacting with the opposite sex. Sorry!
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/23 01:06 PM
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Slut originally meant a woman who had dust bunnies under her bed, historically speaking. So...Maybe you need therapy, not a woman to trauma dump your insecurities onto.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/23 11:03 AM
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I think inexperienced men shouldn't interact with women if they call anyone with more experience than them sluts. I don't think they're ready for sex if they're also judging other people for having it.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/23 10:57 AM
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Yes, but also pair that with adequate sex education, talks about consent, access to reproductive resources as well as destigmatizing libidos and consensual (legal) sexual relationships (ie, poly Amory, the female libido in general, LGBTQ+). It's one aspect of an issue.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/23 06:54 PM
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It's not hard to understand when you deprive people of education and opportunities people are going to react and approach it in unhealthy and uneducated ways.why would sex be any different?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/23 04:40 PM
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As a woman, I couldn't agree more. People are all different. It's weird as fuck to assume woman all share a hive mind.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/23 03:04 AM
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I think a lot of men seem to confuse being emotionally abusive for being emotionally vulnerable. This "uncomfortableness" with men "expressing their emotions" is usually women being like "no, you don't get to cry and pretend you're the victim while you're verbally abusing me". For example, my husband does this thing where he'll rail on me for literally hours for completely inconsequential things like how I didnt have the right tone of voice when I asked him a question (ie, the ladt time being wh…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/23 02:52 AM
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Um, no. That's called being coercive. I am not obligated to go past my own personal sexual boundaries to make a man happy sexually. He's just as entitled to break up with his partner if he wants to explore his sexuality and experiment but don't impose your personal hang-ups and short comings onto your partner to manipulate them into situations they clearly don't want want to be in. That's gross af.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/23 11:03 PM
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I watched my high-school male friends pee in hallways, drive drunk, do drugs, and basically have unhinged adolescent behaviour throughout their late teens to early twenties. The emotional immaturity and lack of self awareness is such a turn off that of course its harder to date them. Men in their 30's tend to have it together more, not be as selfish, have the life experience to recognize not everyone else is some brainless NPC just filling up space around them. And that's honestly most young adu…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/23 03:05 PM
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Honestly, I love my husband but love isn't gonna save me and daughter from watching him die a slow and painful death from lung cancer like his mom and uncle did. That's not compromise. That's just cruelty. **additionally, he was basically half a pack a day cigarello smoker (worse than cigarettes) and tobacco chewer. I said I'd never be in a relationship with a smoker and I wouldn't compromise because its expensive, bad for you, bad smell, and i dont want to watch him die an entirely preventable …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/23 11:07 PM
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I think the best example I can give you is my own marriage. I was very upfront on several things that I needed for long term compatibility: nonsmoker, marriage in a reasonable time frame, no drinking and driving, no crossing relationship boundaries, etc. Fundamental shit. My husband felt he could compromise on those things. What he failed to tell me was that those weren't also his boundaries/expectations. Instead, he just withheld that he smoked from me for the first several years of dating (lon…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/23 10:51 PM
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That’s because in the mind of the person being told why you aren’t compatible, they’re hearing instructions on how to be compatible with you. All they need to do is change, right? Which is why I no longer explain why we're not compatible. There are fundamental things men have expected me to just eventually change my mind on over time that I never will or have. It's disingenuous and I'd rather not give people the opportunity to try and negotiate my attraction (or lack there of) to them. An intere…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/23 09:34 PM
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Sorry?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/23 08:18 PM
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You're right. And the same goes passport bros. Maybe they should stop overselling their importance and advertising why they can't function in polite society and we wouldn't even need to have an opinion about them to begin with. I'm glad we can agree.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/23 08:11 PM
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Yeah, and that's why nobody likes a passport bro. It's just some idiot dickhead running his mouth, trying to provoke people and then playing victim when it backfires. Go travel, bud. I full encourage everyone to do it. It's not going to end up how you think it is lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/23 07:59 PM
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I do find it funny that passport bros can dish out the most terrible, horribly abusive things about women but the moment you're like "go for it. I'd love to see you fail when you do" all of a sudden it's women being the meanies. Lmao. Go travel bud. Spend your life savings buying a foreign wife. Let me know how it goes!
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/23 07:57 PM
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No you don't owe. But it's interesting to know. But I understand that first it's extra work for you to explain it and then also, some of the reasons can sound just superficial and stupid when you say them out loud. Which doesn't mean they aren't valid and real, to you. Yeah, I stopped explaining it because it was never just a conclusion or for "research purposes". It was always just an opportunity for the guy to try and convince me into a romantic relationship I never felt inclined to be in. In …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/23 07:52 PM
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I've said it before but passports are the drunk, obnoxious guys at a party. They'll tell you whatever unpopular opinion pops into their head unprovoked, they'll be condescending and insulting and try their best to trigger a reaction and when someone has had enough of the insults and petty button pressing and them getting in their face, the passport bro will just say "well, you're just jealous of me" when in reality everyone wants him to shut up and just leave the party already like he's been pro…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/23 07:42 PM
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We don't. We think passport bros can do whatever they want. We just don't think they need to insult and create hate speech canpaigns against North American women to do it. Its like the drunk, obnoxious guy at the party who keeps saying "I'm gonna do it, you pussy! You hate that I'm gonna do it, don't you, you little bitch." And at some pointnits just like...okay, stop insulting me and just go do it. Get out of our collective faces and go fulfill your dreams and live your best life. Stop complain…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/23 07:38 PM
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Women don't care about passport bros. If they have the money, time and ability to travel and explore the world they should shut up and go for it. Maybe less yapping about how women are upset that they're gone and more just being gone imo.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/23 06:44 PM
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I had to teach my dad to rotate his tires and not to cut backwards with a circular saw. I helped build his entire deck and my sisters and I were the ones usually doing the yard work and vehicle maintenance. Growing up, it was mom's toolbox, not dad's. My mom did teach me how to rewire our pull behind tent trailer though when I had to upgrade the plug on it for towing.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/23 05:37 PM
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Yuuuup. At most, we keep each other on Facebook if it ended well. Not once has a man paid my bills after the relationship ended.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/23 05:35 PM
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I can appreciate artwork without wanting to hang it in my home. We can appreciate a man without having to date him personally and take him home. There's plenty of reasons why I never dated my attractive male friends. Largely it was compatibility and knowing that long term, we would never work out. Or that we had different opinions. Or religious aspects. A different sense of humor. Maybe I didn't want to be married to a doctor, lawyer, cop, etc because of the long work hours/risks affiliated with…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/23 05:09 PM
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I'd rather be single than settle and that should be the norm because toxic relationships don't so anyone any favours
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/23 04:57 PM
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That's indoctrination, baby. When I left my parents didn't speak to me for a year. The absolute guilt I felt for the first 5 years was horrendous. My dad normalized it and it felt wrong to experience anything different. I get why people stay.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/23 12:17 AM
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Economically stable =/= rich. My husband wasn't wealthy when we met. He had drive and passion though and we worked together to get where are now. I needed someone who had the same aspirations and economic goals as I do. It's not about wealth. It's compatibility.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/23 11:10 PM
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I did. That was a quote from the article, bud.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/23 11:04 PM
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Exactly. Thank you. We don't need men to be providers. Because, and I quote: "Thibodeaux says she knows it’s “not necessarily [a guy’s] fault” if he’s struggling financially. Still, given the circumstances, she’s had to devise a Plan B for her future: If Mr. Right doesn’t come along soon, she may just shack up with some lady friends at her professional level. “Maybe in a few years we’ll move in together,” she says. “They’re successful, and I like them.” "
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/23 10:57 PM
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I grew up Christian fundamentalist. Those women are taught from birth that God will reward their suffering, that divorce is a sin and that men are meant to be the ultimate source of authority. That's why they stay. Additionally, why would you want that for someone you claim to love to begin with? Why would you want to inflict that kind of misery on your spouse knowing that the only reason why they stay with you is out of fear?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/23 10:43 PM
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It is just money. You are correct. And money can't buy most women's love, time or affection. And we initiate divorces to leave toxic, abusive, or incapatibke relationships which supports my initial point. Largely because alimony isn't guaranteed (or offered in some places at all), child support is a joke and almost nobody is making money solely off being an ex-wife. If you literally take a step back and apply simply logic instead of your own personal bias, you'd find money doesn't mean shit to t…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/23 09:30 PM
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Yeah, and they go after even richer men. Honestly, we don't. I'd rather be self sufficient than married to a rich asshole. Equality does not make women considering more equal opportunities, in fact they become full classist. You mean they are able to leave abusive, toxic or incompatible relationships easier and that makes men big mad? Yes, then we are becoming "classist".
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/23 09:12 PM
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More women are just becoming rich themselves instead. I'd honestly never date a rich person after growing up alongside so many mal-adjusted man babies that it's not worth the effort. Money doesn't make the man. That's for damn sure.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/23 07:23 PM
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I have a daughter bur most of my boy mom friends include: Talks about consent, nonverbal and verbal social cues, when to cut of toxic relationships, how to approach difficult discussions with a partner, body autonomy, and then it's also preparing their husband's to reinforce these same positive narratives. I mean, I grew up around Christian, Conservative men and I watched those men become Andrew Tate and Jordan Peterson fans or become abusive themselves to their families. Some of them turned out…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/23 03:48 PM
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Oh no, I'm just pointing out that even animals can practice better emotional intelligence than men can according to red pill's own logic and assertions.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/23 03:07 PM
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As a former landlord, I agree.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/23 03:44 PM
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You're saying men can't judge how to approach women better than a dog can. I don't think I need to listen what a man who thinks that had to say. Good luck on learning the fundamentals on how to function in society, I guess?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/23 01:08 PM
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The only context in which men don’t want to do it is when women pretend it’s equal to real work. If it's so easy why aren't more men volunteering to do it? It's literally a fun media trope that men will do anything to avoid being responsible for their families lol. The weird thing is, women don’t actually believe housework is harder, if they did, there would be no reason they don’t just work more, and pay someone to clean and cook for them. If housework and cooking was truly harder, you’d end up…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/23 01:06 PM
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I mean, yeah. Dump runs were always my favourite. Scrubbing a toilet on my hands and knees is what I dread.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/23 01:01 PM
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Sure, but, again, men still need to be accountable for being abusive too. And blaming victims just helps protect the cycle of abuse. If you want to keep doing it, go for it. But you're making it harder for victims to leave when you do. Man or woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/23 01:00 PM
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Maybe you are better suited to be a stay at home parent? I did general laboring before becoming a skilled framer and some concrete work. Loved it (minus the winter aspect). Co-owned a framing business with my husband for a while and now I help run the home warranty division for a major local developer. Yeah, it's all easier than being a parent. It genuinely makes me laugh when men try and tell me otherwise.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/23 12:59 PM
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OK, then men aren't capable of the bare minimum of emptionalnontelligence and shouldn't be in charge if you feel this way. If.men are too stupid to not talk to someone with headphones in, whose working, whose clearly not comfortable and trying to leave the conversation, etc then that's on you. You're the problem. This isn't rocket science. Women will try and politely disengage you when not interested. All you have to do is pay attention to basic social cues like "I have a boyfriend" or "sorry, I…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/23 12:56 PM
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I framed houses in a bikini and pajamas. Clothes don't make the man.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/23 06:31 AM
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I worked in construction for years and I've done the SAHM gig. Being a parent was harder. Running a household and managing people's daily lives is hard. Cleaning is hard. So is cooking. If it was easy more men wouldnt be resentful for having to do it. And you get this kind of ingratitude to boot. So it's not like you're even getting emotionally or mentally fulfilled from it. Yeah, no Thanks. I'd rather be a working mom sharing the load any day.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/23 06:29 AM
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It's weird talking to someone whose had similar experiences. I am trying to give my husband time to change now that we both recognize our generational trauma but it's hard disentangling from the toxic trauma bonding too. I also know I love him a lot more than he loves me.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/23 03:43 PM
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Thanks. Either way, I'm determined to he happy. He's welcome to join me on my journey or he can be miserable by himself. It's harder when you have a daughter and you start realize when all that abusive behaviour began to get more severe the more my father realized he couldn't control me. It's hard because at one point id have said my dad was a good dad too. So that'll be fun to navigate.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/23 03:17 PM
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I'm hopeful. He's had a severely abusive childhood and mine was just emotionally/verbally and financially abusive. He's unlearned a lot of things too.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/23 03:03 PM
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Abusive PEOPLE lie and manipulate. Both men and woman. You're right. I agree. I don't blame you for not knowing how to br the perfect victim the same way I don't blame myself. This was the literal best situation I could imagine for myself at one point. I've had enough therapy and knowledge to know that I don't deserve a partner that acts that way towards me. But in the end both play their role in the dynamic. And the abuser most of the time isn't gonna be the one growing or changing. Regardless …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/23 02:52 PM
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lol. And what decade are we talking about here? 1989-2023 --> I grew up with a brother and male classmates. I've seen their moms parent them and tell them not to harrass people. This isn't rocket ket science. Try paying attention to how parents interact with their kids maybe? Nope. Its just dealing with women today is far different than it was not that long ago. Men have to walk a tight rope with women where as they don't with men. Men can insult another man playfully and we know neither one wil…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/23 02:14 PM
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Why is the idea that abusive men lie and manipulate people such a hard concept for red pillers? I grew up with a conservative Christian fundamentalist dad who normalized emotional and verbal abuse towards me. I grew up with the older generation telling us that we were lucky he wasn't a bad dad. So I married someone just like my dad. And guess what? The abuse my dad spent a lifetime normalizing didn't seem like abuse. I felt lucky my husband was more engaged as a father than my dad. I felt lucky …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/23 02:06 PM
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I'm a mother. I am teaching my kid fundamental social skills. The more I do it, the more I realize men were taught these basic, rundamentary skillsets from toddlerhood and yet somehow still use ignorance as an excuse. I watch fellow moms interject for their sons all the time. Even further to the point, I see these same men practice social norms and basic social approaches with other men, no problem. It's like they think women are somehow the exception for respect and kindness. You have male cowo…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/23 09:26 PM
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I'm with trash men because a trash man raised me and had a whole fear campaign that I had to settle for trash men because that's all that exists. I'm in therapy now but yeah, turns out it's a multi-generstional campaign to keep women in trashy men cycles.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/23 12:21 PM
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Weirdly enough I didn't like video games until I started dating him.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/23 02:11 AM
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C'est la vie. I've come to terms with it. Thanks for the well wishes.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/23 07:57 PM
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Big noses, and skinny legs and big foreheads are my jam. Bonus: if you wear glasses.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/23 07:48 PM
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It's not. He ended up being a "nice guy" who needs a lot of therapy. We're working on it.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/23 06:41 PM
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And vice versa. You should find compatibility on all levels, that includes financially.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/23 06:40 PM
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I mean, yeah, women should stop dating toxic men. However, a lot of men have issues when we do vet potential partners.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/23 06:08 PM
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Yup, shitty people suck. I've had boyfriends do something similar (not wothhold sex but financially take advantage of me). I don't think being a dirt bag is a gendered issue though.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/23 06:07 PM
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Yes, I even planned the date.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/23 05:52 PM
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Is winning considered being incapable of good decision making because of your over abundance of hormones?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/23 01:26 PM
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You win. You guys are more hormonal than women. I believe it.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/23 01:24 PM
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I asked my husband out. I don't want to be approached unprovoked. I've been stalked too many times from crazy men who think eye contact is permission to follow me home.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/23 10:58 PM
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It is terrible advice. "Everything in moderation" should be the goal. Or just dating for compatibility. Iunno, this weird idea that love is a competition is the real problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/23 10:36 PM
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Nailed it. We're okay with you being yourself. But if yourself is just an asshole who refuses to grow past selfish behaviours then yeah, why would anyone want to date you?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/23 04:46 PM
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No? I don't respect cheaters or people who defend them.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/23 10:55 PM
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Yeah..." nice guys", amiright? Never again.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/23 08:03 PM
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Yup, here's to another failed "nice guy" who dated to win and not for compatibility!
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/23 06:02 PM
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Yuuuup, I settled for a man who didn't want marriage (he misled me by making promises he only ever delivered when I told him I needed to leave to find someone who wanted what I also wanted). He now uses every argument to say "well, I didn't even want to get married. And it's your fault for believing me when I said I did". Like... why would you even want this then? What joy does it bring you to make sure I'm insecure and unloved when he intentionally hid that we were fundamentally incompatible? I…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/23 05:01 PM
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No, I want you to be compatible. Dating isn't a game. It's just trial and error until you meet someone you can tolerate and enjoy life with for the rest of your life. This whole idea that ymits me vs you is the problem. Either you're a partner who wants to uplift, support and love each other or you're dating for the wrong intentions.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/23 04:58 PM
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I genuinely don't care. If I made all the decisions in my life based on men around me I'd just be living locked up in a house wearing a moomoo with some sexy lingerie underneath it playing nanny, nurse, chef, housecleaning and bang maid. I'd rather just make my own decisions, suffer the consequences and just live my life. Thanks for the concern though.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/23 03:28 PM
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I've had the opposite experience. I went on a lot of first dares with dudes who wanted to be my boyfriend from day 1.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/23 02:56 PM
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Yup, can't have it both ways, buddy!
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/23 09:46 PM
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Yeah, again, a lot of that is more uo to your interpretation than what is actually being said. And I agree it's asshole behaviour no matter whose doing it.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/23 08:24 PM
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This entire subreddit is about how men don't like women having choices. Again, this has to go both ways.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/23 08:01 PM
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Yes, same as men. Next.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/23 07:23 PM
1

Statistically speaking, fathers will eventually phase out visitations with their children, no matter how amicable the divorce/seperation is. It's not a guaranteed stat but it is a common practice.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/23 06:37 PM
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I agree. You should take up feminism.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/23 06:29 PM
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Oh, I'm sorry. Should we start training women to lower their standards so men don't feel insecure about doing below the bare minimum?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/23 06:13 PM
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Giselle’s pursed a football player and knew what that entailed. Same fucking thing. Keep the same consistency here please. It's not. Brady committed to communal goals and went past the norm for retirement age by decades. They had discussed that he could pursue his career as long as he eventually focused on family life. They both decided on long term goals and he failed to fulfill his promise. That's not the same as making someone give up their career while they're just building momentum in it. N…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/23 06:11 PM
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Ah, so women should just distribute sex when men ask for it. Got it.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/23 05:47 PM
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Yup, it's because so many men won't do the bare minimum to support their kids. It is really shocking how high the numbers are for men who just phase out visitations for their children over time.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/23 05:45 PM
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It's not a double standard though. Men are just entitled not to pursue someone they don't find attractive either. Lots of dudes don't want women who've had children, are overweight, not career or family driven, etc. Women are entitled to have their own preferences as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/23 05:43 PM
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Just like Sara initially agreed with some of Jonah’s boundaries which is evidence on the texts and then she went back on what they agreed to. She was having him review pictures to post as part of their agreement. Jonah literally pursued someone with a career where they were a bathingsuit for it. If anything , HE went back on the established norms of their relationship. Especially when he was the one literally reaching out over those very same photos. He knew what he was getting into. That's diff…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/23 05:12 PM
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Yes, that's how sacrifices work. Everyone has to pitch in. EVERYONE.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/23 05:07 PM
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My husband and I both have careers and a child. Why does he get to work overtime to further his career but I'm expected to sacrifice my career and every opportunity so he can neglect his home life? My husband is a fully engaged partner and father who actively participated in creating a family with me. Children need time and attention and that requires sacrifice. If you don't want to sacrifice anything then don't have kids. That's the difference.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/23 05:06 PM
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How is women being allowed to have personal preferences for their own romantic partners "blaming everything exclusively on men"?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/23 05:02 PM
1

Oh cool, well, just switch to assigning spouses by the government. Win-win for red pillers everywhere.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/23 03:04 PM
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Nope, and I hung out with the target demographic for red pillers and right wing men in general pretty much my entire life. The women you're saying you deserve will not touch you knowing you had a history of being promiscuous. Blows my mind that men don't think we won't hold them to the same standards we hold ourselves. Lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/23 02:07 PM
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K? I have a low body count but especially when a young, very attractive virgin in my prime I wouldn't have touched a man with a high body count with a ten foot pole. I still won't at 34 with a kid (and a husband lol). Nobody is saying you can't have a personal preference. Just be aware even women have their own and it's not you.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/23 02:04 PM
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Yeah, i agree. Why complain about a complete strangers dating preferences when you should just find someone you're compatible with from the get go and stop trying to change women to bend to your personal preferences! Finally, some common sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/23 02:02 PM
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He didn't. He asked her to delete her photos and called her selfish for not immediately cutting of her friend group and changing her career path. There was no healthy discussion or compromise or owning up that it was his problem. He immediately made it her problem to deal with. That's asshole behaviour.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/23 03:29 PM
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For sure, then you need to approach it as such. It is not your partner's fault your boundaries changed and you need to treat it accordingly. I wouldn't go up to my husband after a decade together and be like "I don't like your career anymore, you need to quit and never talk to your friends again". That would be a ME problem to figure out how I'd be comfortable with that, not a my husband's problem. I would seek therapy for myself, not tell him to give up his entire life's work and friend group.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/23 03:04 PM
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Okay, so I can tell my husband he needs to change careers and cut off his entire support group on a whim? And I'm allowed to file for divorce if he doesn't? Yeah, bud. That's not a boundary anymore. That's just being a controlling asshole.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/23 10:32 PM
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He did. He literally creeped on her professional Instagram page and commented on her in a bathingsuit. He knew she was a professional surfer and that she had a social media page covered in bathing suits. He doesn't get to decide a year later that's a boundary he can impose on her after knowing that's her entire online persona and career. It's mind blowing that you think people should give up long established careers because their partner has decided to spring a new boundary on them.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/23 10:24 PM
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OF isn't the same as being a professional athlete. Jonah knew what she was before they dated. They established it well in advance and he understood she usually wore a bathingsuit as a career choice. Jonah changed the boundaries in the relationship well after it was established. I wouldn't have dated a lot of guys if they'd been upfront with their personal preferences. My own husband hid that he smoked for a year when we first started dating. It's hard to separate yourself when you're emotionally…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/23 08:14 PM
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(assuming he knew beforehand he would have issues with it). Again, he was on her Instagram commenting on her posts, asking about her career and begging for her attention. Or for example if I don't want kids and find someone who also doesn't want kids and we start a relationship. If I change my mind or my partner does, I shouldn't be forcing them to have kids nor should they force me to give them kids. I agree. Jonah is the one who changed his mind though. It's not her fault for being incompatibl…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/23 07:39 PM
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Jonah should've been up front about his boundaries from day 1 tbh. The fact that he felt the need to state his boundaries well after they had started dating while knowing that was her entire career and online presence is entirely his fault. That being said, he's entitled to have those boundaries. He's not entitled to impose them on others as a means of controlling them. It's weird how he could be flexible when he got something out of it (ie, laid) but all of a sudden it's a deal breaker years la…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/23 06:48 PM
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Sure, he's welcome to his own boundaries. It just doesn't make sense that he'd actively pursue someone knowing they aren't compatible and then feel entitled to impose those same boundaries well after they've committed to each other. It's a bait and switch scenario.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/23 06:44 PM
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Okay, if your partner said "hey, i met you knowing you're well paid, established in your career and well known in your industry. You need to change careers and cut off your entire friend group or we break up" then that's acceptable to you?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/23 06:42 PM
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If I start dating someone and they know my feelings on those things and suddenly they wanna get a bunch of piercing and tats or starting smoking weed or open an onlyfans (not necessarily nude work but very suggestive stuff). Jonah's ex didn't just decide to become a professional surfer and model despite his preferences though. He pursued her knowing this was her well established professional occupation and sole source of income and then said "well, that's just my boundaries". Where were those bo…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/23 06:37 PM
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And this is why I can't feel sorry for red pillers. You'll complain about women and things that make you incompatible and then you'll blatantly settle for someone who isn't compatible for you. Like, you can date those other women who will put out. Why do you want to be with someone who doesn't match your values and goals right off the bat? Blows my mind.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/23 11:30 AM
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Ah, so money doesn't count unless it's made during a career. How do hourly people pay their bills then?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/23 03:09 PM
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These are never done by owners these days. They have software that keeps track of this. Or they hire personal assistants for $12 an hour. Most small business can't pay 50k for a full time in-house marketer. Most small businesses have the owners operating in managerial roles overall. We did our day to day accounting and just pushed bigger items to an outsourced accountant to do but the vast majority of our work was done between owners. And minimum wage is $15/hour in Canada and I'm not hiring a t…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/23 11:03 PM
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I'm the Homeowner Care Administrator and Safety officer for a major local developer in my area and I'm a working mom. I have a background in construction as a framer (and coowned a framing business with my husband before moving provinces). I know 6 female doctors I grew up with who are all working moms. I know teachers who are working moms. I have a few business leader friends who are working moms, etc. Like, you do realize most adults have careers these days, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/23 10:57 PM
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Running any business is a lot of work. You have to do accounting, marketing, take inventory, manage employees, pay bills and upkeep, perform maintenance, respond to customers, manage day to day cash flows, etc. Being an entrepreneur is one of the hardest things you can do. It's crazy that you don't know that.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/23 10:54 PM
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Well, we split costs a lot too. I pay for our babysitter, he'll cover the meal, I'll cover drinks, he'll cover the activity. But for special occasions well take each other out ie, birthdays, promotions, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/23 11:37 AM
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Yeah, I'd be miserable too if that was my life. Fair enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/23 03:02 PM
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I feel like you've only seen pregnant women on TV.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/23 02:24 PM
1

It's why I pay for my husband's dates so I believe it.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/23 07:06 AM
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Honestly, that's what my husband and I worked towards our entire life until I got into some car accidents and got legally diagnosed as handicapped. It took a lot of time and effort but I'm back at work now but we both wish he had been the stay at home parent. I technically contributed to the vast majority of our savings and also contributed financially including providing the entire deposit for our first home and 130k in savings so its not like I was not contributing aside from being a SAHM. Eit…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/23 03:21 AM
1

Iunno, maybe try an actual joke? Why is this such a hard concept for some men?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/23 05:48 PM
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As in, we don't tell him anything. He doesn't have the emotional intelligence to process bad news. He wants to control everyone's Financials, their social lives, religion and marriages, etc. So we just stopped telling him anything. He doesn't get to be involved in a lot of things because he considers them inconveniences and doesn't value other people's opinions or experiences unless it directly affe to his own. It's boring, it's exhausting babying a literal senior citizen at this point and we'd …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/23 09:31 PM
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I grew up Ina conservative household. Fuck that noise. Never again. And that's the same for most women. We saw how conservative men treat women and we don't want none, thanks.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/23 02:53 PM
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Yeah, he took it away from a roast into a sad personal vendetta. Thanks. I agree.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/23 08:59 PM
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Sex isn't difficult for average men. It's difficult for men who talk about and to women like this. Of course we don't want to have sex with you. You hate us.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/23 11:10 PM
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He wasn't invited to my wedding and we don't really speak. I had a few heart ot hearts with him but he doesn't really see the error of his ways. Everybody does enable him as well so there isn't much incentive to change either.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/23 03:13 AM
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My dad just put us in private school. We were the poor kids in a rich school.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/23 02:00 AM
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Oh, so your hatred of a woman participating in Society is the joke. Got it.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/23 07:23 PM
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He's not roasting though. A roast would have a punchline or at least a joke in there somewhere. It's literally in the subreddit rules that there needs to be an actual joke in the response. Where's the joke, bud?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/23 07:16 PM
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Yeah and I've seen videos of people torturing animals and laughing too. Humor is clearly subjective. Doesn't mean murdering kittens is considered a comedy roast either. Lol
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/23 06:41 PM
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So am I masculine for being employed? Also, I don't find stoicism a masculine trait either. Or an admirable trait to have in general. I also solve problems for my family. Am I also masculine? Iunno, the idea of any one thing being specifically masculine or feminine just seems so contrived and unnecessary to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/23 05:42 PM
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Well, I'd rather have those qualities and I don't find them to be inheritly masculine in nature. They're just more likely to be labeled differently for women (ie, assertive=greedy, knows what she wants=stubborn, direct in communication=also bossy, etc) But none of that is what I would consider specifically masculine qualities. Masculine to me means punching, yelling, being obnoxious and then blaming it on your testosterone.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/23 05:16 PM
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This is my dad. Except he never put anybody needs before his own. He provided, yeah, but he never got to know anyone in his family except his son. All his daughters suffer from severe depression and my mom has never actually received a birthday/christmas/anniversary gift she would actually like or use from him. He plans vacations in a way that is stressful for her (she likes to relax and not be too scheduled, he needs everything to be scheduled and have a purpose so beach days are a no go for hi…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/23 05:11 PM
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I've never really been attracted to masculinity. I like men but the whole bravado, super aggressive masculinity that incels and red pillers paint is such a turn off. I'd rather have a male partner be in tune with his emotional well being and a great communicator than a guy who feels like he can punch his way out of mental illness. To each their own but I've dated the gym rat machismo man and it was so boring and downright unattractive when he tried to start fights with other dudes over almost an…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/23 04:33 PM
1

Ah, k, so you know more about women than women know about themselves. You must have so many girlfriends then.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/23 08:36 PM
1

So you can read other people's minds now then?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/23 05:42 PM
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I'm poor and ugly and I say money doesn't matter and neither do looks. Again, I grew up next to those that were wealthy and money didn't stop their alcoholic parents from being abusive to each other or drunk driving with their kids in the car. Money didn't save them from multiple divorces. Money didn't make their kids good people who respected them. The grass is always greener on the other side, my friend.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/23 04:24 PM
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Yuuuup. And I do honestly have amazing, down to earth friends who grew up wealthy but also somehow had amazing, down to earth parents who balanced luxury with common sense. Weirdly enough, most of those friends are wealthy doctors now. But I absolutely consider them the exception and not the norm.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/23 04:21 PM
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Oh, so you're projecting. It get it now.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/23 04:19 PM
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I grew up around wealthy people. I would never date a rich person because of that experience alone. It's true, money can't buy happiness. Or common sense. Or human decency.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/23 03:35 AM
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Yes, women.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/23 02:20 AM
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I mean, not for me but have at her. Not really interested in strangers genitalia as it grosses me out though.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/23 09:37 PM
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I'm saying thats how most CEOs and largely people in power got their positions. I never said that was solely a male or female experience though. Maybe you use some.critical thinking skills and acknowledge being in a leadership position doesn't automatically also make you a good leader. But i guess personal insults and attacks are a great substitute for substance. Keep it up, bud.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/23 06:37 PM
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I don't. But this is a debate sub and that usually requires research. You're welcome to find your own at any point.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/23 04:44 PM
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Is violence the marking of a good leader? How many CEOs had fights to the death again?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/23 04:42 PM
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Personal connections and inherited wealth?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/23 04:42 PM
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She was conservative and a hypocrite. We had a premiere who was literally a Crack addict. That's politics, baby.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/23 06:28 AM
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Cool, good luck in life with that.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/23 06:27 AM
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Okay, cool. Then you should be able to provide sourcing that supports your opinion.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/23 01:30 AM
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I can't help you if you don't trust the research. If you'd rather use your feelings to judge if something is truthful then there is nothing left to debate and you need to get off debate subs.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/23 01:29 AM
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Lol, thank God facts don't care about your feelings then.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/23 01:28 AM
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You're right. Google is free. Feel free to research here it yourself or scroll to my other responses to find my multiple sourcing on this topic. Toodles!
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/23 01:28 AM
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I mean, I feel like you don't understand how GDP would be affected during a global pandemic at this point....lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/23 01:27 AM
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Buddy, I like debating. If you find this sub too challenging for debating then move onto the next one.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/23 01:27 AM
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Hysterical.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 11:55 PM
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Haha, buddy, you're naming all the people who helped navigate global recessions with ease compared to their male counterparts. But yeah, we do make better leaders overall. Thanks for noticing!
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 11:55 PM
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Facts don't care about your feelings buddy.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 11:54 PM
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Cool story, buddy.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 11:54 PM
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Statistically speaking, yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 11:52 PM
2

I really appreciate that. You as well!
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 11:14 PM
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Buddy, people have days off lol. And yeah, I doubt you've even graduated high-school at this point.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 11:10 PM
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That's kind of where we're at. He has undiagnosed OCD and severe depression so I'm happy he's getting help now.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 11:09 PM
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Oof, buddy, stop telling on yourself like this. Thankfully, the science confirms that women are better leaders on average. Your opinion, thankfully, is just an opinionm
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 11:08 PM
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Studies confirm your opinion is incorrect.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 11:07 PM
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I will say, my husband does contribute roughly equally to childcare and domestic duties. He'll do doctors appointments and plan bdays too. The big issue is our personal dynamic. His father was incredibly abusive to his wife and his children (my husband included) and set some pretty toxic communication examples growing up to say the least. We're at a point where he needs go get the help or we separate
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 10:38 PM
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Those studies show moving goalposts. I don't disagree that the top levels of university life are still dominated by men heavily. It would be ludicrous to suggest that women don't suffer from inequality in any area of society any more. They show consistent data over multiple studies pointing to the same gender bias. But in terms of whether high schools are biased against boys or girls, studies show that's it's swung the other way and the education gap is now LARGER in favour of girls than it was …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 10:35 PM
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We are working through some issues currently but I think he's beginning to understand genuine equality is a two way street. He's committed to therapy and working on himself in the meantime.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 10:32 PM
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Do you think that's what people are doing? I don't think you've ever held down a job before. Is that what people are doing at your work? If you genuinely think discussing leadership on a debate sub is somehow translating into women just telling every CEO they could do their job better I can't help you. Da fuq.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 10:29 PM
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Anyone who holds sexist biases like you definitely can't be a good leader. Pointing out studies and data that prove women overall have better leadership qualities isn't sexism. Saying that data is lying because it doesn't suite your narrative and refusing to provide any studies that support that opinion is sexism though. Hope this helps!
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 10:19 PM
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I've supplied multiple studies enforcing the fact there's a gender bias in science. Feel free go do your own research though!
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 09:59 PM
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I said that women more often than not choose the hot, exciting and aloof guy over than the average, boring but clingy guy. Yes, we will. Why would I want a clingy insecure boyfriend I don't even enjoy the company of? This is called compatibility, not competition. Another day, another woman on PPD wanting to argue about the color of the sky. Another day, another man on PPD thinking simply being a woman is simply the height of luxury.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 09:58 PM
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Any time you have to use the “women are not a hive mind / monolith / just people” comeback it’s a pretty good sign you have nothing of use yo contribute to a conversation. Sure bud Women’s sexual behavior can be discussed in general terms just like men’s can. Yeah and generally, most people (women included) don't have sugar daddies funding their lifestyles. That's my point. Yet, I highly doubt you say “men are not a hive mind!1!1” when a somebody states the common sense fact that men are attract…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 09:52 PM
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That is true, but heterosexual men do not want homosexual relationships. It's a bit of an apples to oranges thing here. Most young women don't want ugly, old fat men fucking them even for the promise of being financially rewarded for it. I know that creeps me and most women out so we don't capitalize on that in any way whatsoever. I get why you'd find it incredibly unappealing and not worth the effort despite the financial gain. Most people in general share that opinion to be fair. It also doesn…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 09:20 PM
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Not quite actually. Good for you if you ask and want to pay 50/50, but that puts you in the minority. The vast majority of women still expect men to ask out and pay, or at least make it seem like they're willing to pay for everything. Plenty of feminists is unfortunately not the majority of them, and not even close to the majority of women. If you don't believe me feel free to poll men on their lived experiences. Opinion pieces from 1 individual doesn't make up for the vast majority of feminists…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 09:12 PM
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I mean, gay sugar daddies exist. Men just aren't trying enough if they want the lap of luxury women are apparently being offered en masse. Help yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 09:04 PM
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We'll just tell them it's one of the qualities of a great leader and men will line up for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 07:43 PM
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Yeah, nobody is foubting there's a stigma or discrimination against men sometimes too. But not in science or acadamia though. There are some in child-care roles because men who choose those jobs are statistically higher to commit certain crimes while employed in them. Who hasn't heard of a male teacher targeting young girls? I've had 3 in my lifetime for example. . Second, we found discrimination against men in Germany, the Netherlands, Spain, and the UK, and no discrimination against men in Nor…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 07:32 PM
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So does money increase your natural sperm count? Or are wealthy people just able to afford the children they're choosing to have during 3 consecutive global economic recessions that javelin decimated the middle class over the last 20 years? You're confusing correlation with causation, bud.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 07:04 PM
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It doesn't matter who deserves what's moral or ethical or healthy, that's not how the world works. Then go murder someone and enslave their children. It's just the natural order anyways. People don't get power because they're good people, in fact it's usually the opposite. People have power because they have the ability to take power. Whether that be their physicality, their charisma, their intellect, their beauty, whatever, that's what grants them power. Additionally, people don't get power bec…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 07:00 PM
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Yup! Even my feminist husband was all about me building up my career again post baby/severe health issues until I told him I couldn't guarantee I won't be working the occasional weekend or some OT. All of a sudden he's making big sacrifices and "compromising" so much to "let me" have a career. He literally told me "since I let you go on salary and start your career then I should be allowed to buy a boat". This was after we moved provinces for his career path as well. We've had some discussion si…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 06:57 PM
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Yes, men who put the time and effort into improving their own lives will also attract people with the same qualities and values. That's usually how it works. Thanks for coming to my TedTalk.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 06:52 PM
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Nobody allows slavery. There is no "we". If someone wants to make you their slave, and you don't have a way to stop them, they will. Oh, so slaves deserved to be enslaved for being vulnerable. Got it. That is the natural order, the strong take what they want because nobody can stop them. Men get murdered and imprisoned for shit too, because the man who has the power decided that's how it was going to be, and if you can't stop him, that's how it's going to be. So pedophilia and murder are just co…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 06:51 PM
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That study is just a judgement on how people react to female-positive versus male-positive stats. It doesn't actually talk about a bias. And there are plenty of studies after study after study after study, that highlights the history of male bias in science and academia as a whole. there's plenty more data and lots of incidents directly proving a gender bias in acadamia in general.. Feel free to take a gander!
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 06:49 PM
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Maybe women should stop dressing so attractively and men won't choose them over less attractive women. I think you're mistaking compatability for competition. Again, you're really cherrypicking your functions here. Exactly who is responsible for the decisions they make? People who commit crimes are responsible for themselves and their own actions. Victims of crimes are not responsible for being vulnerable to a crime. I feel like you can understand that terrible people will lie and mislead a lot …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 06:42 PM
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Buddy, nobody is saying it can't happen. We're saying women aren't hive minds looking to become abuse victims. There's a middle ground here you're missing where the vast majority of the population lives in. You're welcome to join us at any time.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 06:37 PM
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I mean, it is what's happening now. More women are happy and single and delaying getting married to the point where we can't keep up population wise. Win-win in my books.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 06:35 PM
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So we should also allow slavery then? And since we can physically overpower children then we're allowed to commit crimes against them? I'm just trying to follow your logic where committing crimes against a historically disadvantaged demographic is the same thing as having a "natural order". But, yes, nothing is stopping women now and I fully agree that men need to stop being victims the moment a woman succeeds too. You don't like the modern dating culture? Maybe stop being weak, men.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 06:34 PM
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Yeah, that's pretty typical of most conservative prime ministers tbf.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 06:31 PM
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Oh, so crimes are just "logical". Let's make all the criminals leaders!
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 06:28 PM
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Oh brother, so you went to school for an overvalued inflated business degree and now you think you know what's failed. If your definition of failing is becoming a superpower with the #1 army, political influence, and enough power to kill the world 20x over then sure. I also coowned my own business and now work in a field where I use my degree daily but I'll let my employers know a stronger on the internet doesn't approve of my qualifications. America is where it wants to be. Extending the gap be…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 06:28 PM
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Wow, I love fairy tales. Thanks for sharing!
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 05:29 PM
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Haha, imagine thinking the academic and scientific world is bais AGAINST men. If anything, that just further proves how valid these studies are considering historically, women have been pushed out of scientific research and leadership positions.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 05:27 PM
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Then why is every major corporation is terrible. Amazon for example. Tesla and pretty much every other company. The ones with repeated human rights violations and thousands of lawsuits from former employees are great examples of good leadership? See America and see how wrong you are. Under paid workers with ever increasing cost for housing, food and etc. Fact of the matter your living in a fantasy world and compassion is the last thing you need for leadership I have a business degree and America…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 05:23 PM
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Because I live in Canada and we have Prime Ministers?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 05:13 PM
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Yeah, if you think compassion and honesty don't make good leadership qualities then you're just proving my point. Happy workforce=low employee turnover. Low employee turnover=lower training costs/less costs to attract potential employees/able to hold on to high performance employees and their skillsets/etc. Lower training costs/less need to add additional benefits for compensation/etc. =more long term profit This isn't rocket science. If you make your employees miserable and treat them like garb…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 05:12 PM
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So you choose to deflect. Just pointing out men don't hold each other accoutmntable but still expect women to. I can only speak for myself, but I wouldn't stay friends with anyone, male or female, if I found out that they seek to harm other people (with the exception of self-defense). So if you saw someone starting to worship Andrew Tate and start blaming all the problems in their lives on a lack of female affection you'd step up and hold those men accountable as well? Even if my male friend che…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 05:00 PM
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I replied to a similar comment with my sourcing. Feel free to respond
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 04:58 PM
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That's fair. Here's the data Forbes article that directly highlights how the data is applied. More data Harvard study that identifies that women are better leaders especially during a crisis. link to another study and a 2008 study that identifies why people think men are better leaders and the bias that has impacting women in leadership roles.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 04:54 PM
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I'm just agreeing with you. Shitty people shouldn't reproduce. If shooting people is a crime wouldn't unloading the bullets be more effective than handing out bullet proof vests? Especially considering that these shitty men are obviously capable of manipulating people and hiding their shitty behaviour from victims. Why not go straight to the source and make sure shitty people aren't reproducing with unknowing (or sometimes unwilling) partners?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 04:39 PM
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Okay, how many times have you seen your male friends treat women in their lives terribly? How many times have you cut ties with those abusive men? Half the red pillers posting on here will say things "my one friend treats women like absolutely garbage and he still gets laid". Ok well, why are you friends with an abuser? Why are you enabling an abuser with your friendship? I know plenty of dudes who'll hide cheating/abusive behaviour for their male friends but will still blame women for not being…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 04:36 PM
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Yeah, shitty men should be castrated.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 04:31 PM
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I'm just pointing out that the original poster is saying women choosing shitty men as sexual partners is actually worse than the shitty men just existing.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 04:22 PM
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You're right. Men are buying $50k sports cars, big $5k gaming chairs, $12k laptops, $25k RVs, $25k on boats, $20k quads or dirtbikes, $25k refurbishing cars, $10k on annual aporting tickets, etc. Women spend less on those little purchases than men do on their larger, less frequent purchases.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 04:21 PM
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Most men aren't trash human beings. We can't force any other person to do anything. Most women aren't dating those trash human beings. We can't force any other person to do anything anyways The other person's point is that female sexuality isn't rainbows and unicorns either. This isn't a competition I agree. Everyone has their own problems and suffering isn't a competition.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 04:17 PM
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to contrast how fucking easy women have it against how men have it Whatever opinion you might have, my point is that other men are saying "men have to provide". "feminists" arent a monolith. If people can argue that man haters "arent really feminists" whats to stop me from saying women who split the bill arent. Oh, so women have to hate men to be equitable partners and want to share financial responsibility. But also men are the victims for being put in a position where they are expected to prov…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 04:01 PM
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Women buy less but they purchase more regularly smaller items. Men spend big and purchase left often. Statistically speaking, men spend more on their personal hobbies and self interests than women do.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 03:50 PM
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Is that why they're more likely to be murderers and sexual assailants?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 03:49 PM
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Buddy, you got to the point and skipped over it. Maybe men should stop becoming ex-cons and trash human beings and the problem solves itself. Also, if women's decisions to date these men is worse than these men being the actual problem in our society then that really just reinforces why men don't make good leaders. Your critical thinking skills seem to be lacking if you believe affiliation with crime is worse than the crime itself.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 03:48 PM
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Yeah, definitely haven't had women literally murdered or imprisoned for asking to be treated like human beings and not objects throughout history. Must be the shared female hysteria we were constantly being diagnosed with.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 03:47 PM
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Statistically speaking, women do make better leaders and have more leadership qualities as a whole.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 03:45 PM
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It literally says in the post men are only worth what they can provide for women. Seems like a lot of victim mentality from men who don't want to be responsible for their own life choices. Plenty of feminists will go 50/50 on expenses and ask you out first. Myself included with my husband. Maybe stop complaining about the gender roles men love to enforce and you won't suffer under the consequences of those gender roles.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 03:41 PM
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This entire post implies that men have no choice but to provide for lazy women. Again, in an economy that forces both partners to work and knowing that women have historically always worked unless they were wealthy. And even then, some wealthy women did seek employment.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 03:31 PM
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actually the chance is much higher that a poor young woman is going to baby trap them compared to economically stable older woman Would love to see the data on this opinion but either way, it's problematic and both should be called out. yeah, of all ages I've seen more cases where young women use older men than vice versa, but I'm not running around warning adult men not to fall in the trap. Old men have a lifetime of experience to know better is the difference. If you're targeting someone becau…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 02:37 PM
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Never crosses my mind but thank you for thinking of me. 😘
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/23 10:07 PM
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Buddy, no. We've all been the target of an older man. We know the difference from experience. This isn't exactly a rare or isolated issue. We've been there. If you knew men were getting into relationships with much older women who wanted to only baby trap them and forced them into child support wouldn't you also want to warn vulnerable men in those positions? Terrible people exist. We aren't saying all age gap relationships are problematic for a reason. Hindsight is also 20/20. We are just teach…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/23 09:22 PM
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Yeah, there's a strong overlap of scumbags and people who date intentionally for an age gap.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/23 09:04 PM
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I approached my now husband. And no, women don't have a problem with younger women living their loves. We have a problem with people who date to target youth and inexperience because it makes their abusive or toxic behaviours less likely to be identified. I know plenty of people in healthy, happy age gap relationships. The difference is they weren't dumping their partners the moment they reached emotional maturity to then target someone even younger.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/23 06:21 PM
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Most women don't compete, tbh. If a man is not interested, then most women just move on. It's not about competition, it's about compatibility.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/23 04:15 PM
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Nailed it.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/23 06:27 PM
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1000 is the most accurate sample size, you're right. And going under or over that point has been linked with increased margins of errors. Meaning 580 has a pretty large margin of error still. Again, again, divorce isn't even an indicator of a demographic not being able to have monogamous relationships. Rather, it's an indicator that people aren't staying in bad relationships anymore. It's why abuse statistics dropped the moment no fault divorces were legalized. Pointing out divorce stats for les…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/23 01:53 PM
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Preach. Yes, we need to find our partners attractive. But what I find attractive is not what most of my friends find attractive and vice versa. We're all just individuals with individual interests.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/23 06:50 PM
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Eh, I literally said i know healthy age gap relationships and the difference between grooming by targeting younger partners specifically for their youth and inexperience. If that's triggered you then that says more about you than anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/23 06:48 PM
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Oof
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/23 06:35 PM
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Being offended when people point out predatory behaviour is a great sign you're also a predator.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/23 06:34 PM
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Try rereading it then. To sum it up: Yes, everybody cares if they personally find their partner attractive or not. But beauty is literally in the eye of the beholder and different people want different things in their partner. Big butt, little boobs, super model thin, long hair, short hair, curly hair, straight hair, no hair, gap teeth, religion, jewellry preferences, freckles, dimples, tattoos, etc. are what might make you attractive to someone and repulsive to somebody else. Beauty is subjecti…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/23 06:32 PM
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Nobody is arguing that you need to find your partner attractive. That's just a fundamental criteria for a good relationship. So stop punishing women for having the exact same standards as most men. Also, stop arguing with us when we tell you what exactly we personally find attractive. We all don't want Brad Pitt or Henry Caville and it's literally offensive to men when they try and compare themselves to complete strangers for absolutely no reason. Yeah, shitty, shallow people exist. That's not a…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/23 06:18 PM
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Literally OP just did this exact thing as a response to my answer.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/23 06:10 PM
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Way to prove my point, my dude.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/23 06:04 PM
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There's a literal running joke about teenage boys and are body sprays lol. I had boyfriends more interested in their looks than I was as a teenager. It's why men also get cosmetic procedures for abs, nose jobs, botix, etc. It's why there's heavy makeup use for men in countries like Korea or Japan. Because everybody care about their appearance differently. Nothing is solely a male or female characteristic. It's all just individuals making choices.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/23 06:03 PM
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That can also be applied to men too. There's plenty of screenshots of men just insulting women unprovoked on dating apps. People can be superficial assholes. Both genders are equally capable of being garbage human beings.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/23 05:15 PM
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Honestly, even when we tell you the features we actually like about men, incels and red pillers will arguebwith us anyways. I love a skinny dude with a big forehead, a big nose and glasses any day. Height has never been a factor and I've dated shorted men (5"6/5"7) before. The reason we broke up was long distance or personal values didn't align long term. Both of those gentlemen are happily married to gorgeous women now and I have my skinny, big foreheads husband who I adore. Yeah, looks do matt…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/23 05:13 PM
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When older men hit on me as a fresh faced adult, I thought it was flattering at first due to my inexperience but then the red flags would pop up. Older men never dated to get to know me or my friends. They dated to groom us into a partner they felt best suited their own lives. I know plenty of large age gap relationships that work well and both partners are more than happy. But when you're pulling a Leonardo Dicaprio and dumping every girlfriend the moment they hit emotional maturity, you can't …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/23 03:53 PM
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Your source uses multiple countries' divorce rates and the United States stat found the rates to be the same amongst gay and straight couples altogether. Lesbians were only slightly higher. And even then, divorce doesn't mean that people are bad at relationships. Clearly there's no lesbian incel group on am FBI watch list somewhere venting out their sexual frustrations about dating other women so they're doing something tight. Also, again, 580 people versus the entire world wide population is no…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/23 08:12 AM
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Yeah, but I'm responding to a comment that women only file specifically to ensure the courts force ex-husbands to pay for child support and alimony. Neither of which are addressed long term during the initial filings for divorce.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/23 07:44 PM
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Yup, for approval, not to negotiate the terms of the separation.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/23 07:37 PM
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I think there's a heavy overlap because most people don't get divorced and still keep dating the person they divorced.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/23 07:06 PM
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Key words here: you'd imagine The reality is most women are working these days (full or part time even while being predominantly in charge of domestic duties and childcare) and most custody and alimony cases are settled in mediation, meaning it doesn't even make it to court. And even then, men should be responsible for the children they actively participated in creating anyways. And child support is not enough money to support a child on, let alone another whole adult. And birth rates are droppi…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/23 06:23 PM
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Yes, but I'm saying it's easier to track when divorces happen than just a break up so I'm deferring to divorce stats for that reason. Also, I know plenty of men who broke up with their SOs and then just pretended like nothing happened afterwards too.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/23 05:59 PM
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I just read a post about a dude who ended a marriage but refuses to file for divorce. And that's not entirely uncommon when ending a marriage. Lots of people move out of the home and start new relationships without applying for a divorce or flat out rejecting one when the other partner offers it. Divorce stats aren't a great indicator of whose actually ending the relationship because of these scenarios.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/23 05:44 PM
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Yeah, and vice versa. Cheating is obviously a deal breaker for the vast majority of people.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/23 05:43 PM
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Not mention the data pool is so small on comparison to hetero relationships that any divorce will spike the stats accordingly. But it still isn't an indicator that women aren't meant to be monogamous just because they choose not to stay in toxic relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/23 05:42 PM
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So every woman above your preferred sexually desirable age is a Karen? Yeah, that checks out for red pillers.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/23 03:16 PM
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It's a much smaller popularion demographic so their stats spike when any divorces are instigated. Also, it means women are still happy being single rather than in an unhappy relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/23 11:34 AM
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Why would I care about what two consenting grown ass adults do in their bedroom?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/23 04:14 AM
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Buddy, I feel the same way about bestiality. Why would you want to have aex with a child?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/23 03:55 AM
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This is disgusting.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/23 03:48 AM
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Yeah, you're arguing if women are more likely to die because they're pregnant and the partner doesn't want them to be (ie, pregnancy) and whether that would apply under a cause of death as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/23 02:49 AM
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Go to a gay bar. Win-win.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/23 01:28 AM
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that was easily debunked. here's another Harvard study Also, again, whether the murder was directly related to the pregnancy or not is what you're debating. It still says murder was one of the main leading causes of death in pregnant women regardless.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/23 12:49 AM
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Buddy, there's literally a term called "post nut clarity" for a reason.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/23 11:21 PM
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No, that's just one example of a common thing men have been caught in the act of fucking.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/23 11:14 PM
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Buddy, my whole point isn't that men will fuck corpses. My whole point is that menwill fuck anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/23 11:14 PM
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Plenty of relationships have men doing most of the effort while the woman just exists, it's not a gendered thing. I agree however, the fact women initiate most divorces kind of confirms that women are far more likely to leave an unhappy relationship than a man is.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/23 10:22 PM
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Cool, but, again, this is just another example of a lot of men staying in unhappy relationships because they'd rather have a sad orgasm with someone they can barely stand than masturbate. And it's why women would rather be single than have to constantly fake an orgasm.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/23 10:06 PM
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Sex is not just an orgasm, you can have the best sex and not get an orgasm. And you can have the worst sex and still cum. The two are not the same. I literally was about to write that men will debate us on whether we orgasm or need to orgasm and I was like "nah, he seems intelligent, I'm sure he'll also assume women just enjoy orgasming". But nope, you literally just told me women don't even like orgasming all the time. Yes, this is a great example of women putting the effort in while men reap t…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/23 10:00 PM
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I agree. A lot women will put all their effort into a relationship to make a man comfortable while receiving little to nothing in return. So while men can admit the relationship is an unhappy one, they won't recognize that they are intentionally making it worse by not even returning half the efforts their partners put in. When women leave they're able to take all that wasted time and attention and apply it to themselves or others who can reciprocate. It's why singlehood isn't a scary concept to …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/23 09:38 PM
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I think most men don't tend to care overall considering the orgasm ratios between men and women in relationships. For example, too many men will be more interested in getting their own pleasure during sex to consider what their partners want, let alone other compromises in a relationship. It's why men don't tend to mind unhappy relationships because they're happy to be at a tolerable level of unhappiness while their partners have to contend with worse.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/23 09:34 PM
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Again, the overlaps between red pillers and incels is why I include them. And lots of red pillers bring up incels and incel talking points in this subreddit.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/23 09:29 PM
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Yes, women don't tend to enjoy being controlled and dehumanized by men. What an excellent observation!
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/23 09:28 PM
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Obviously this is a generalization as everyone on the planet is an individual capable of sentient thought and body autonomy but yeah, that's basically OP's entire argument here.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/23 08:34 PM
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Women would rather be single than in an unhappy relationship. Men would rather be in unhappy relationships than single.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/23 07:39 PM
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This is redpill/ bluepill debate. How does incel fit in this? Incels are checked out of dating all together. They put no effort into anything. They've given up. This is like debating the nuances between a Nazi and a white nationalist. They're fundamentally the same thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/23 07:28 PM
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You're literally doing the things I said. wtf does incels have to do with this? Why bring that up? You're associating such negativity with men just saying dating is hard. We're on an incel/red pill debate subreddit. Why are you shocked they're being referenced? Just simply mentioning women's equality made you jump to the conclusion that I'm somehow against it and I think men are oppressed by it. I don't think you're against it but I am pointing out that men needing to adjust to modern dating sta…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/23 06:14 PM
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Yeah, bigotry isn't based on common sense or reason, bud.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/23 04:58 PM
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Yeah, one is a stat on birth rate mortalities. What is the stat on men being hunted down and murdered for child support again?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/23 04:47 PM
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Yeah it's not line people and organisations can push agendas... Why hire men at all then if you can pay lower wages to women? I love this talking point because it's so easily debunked with one simple question: If you think women are incompetent why would you hire them even to pay them less? Like, why hire adult men when adults with criminal records, children and the handicapped are cheaper labour? The eage gap isn't just "I don't want to pay women the same". It's "I don't want to hire women at a…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/23 04:09 PM
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Men generally always had to make an effort. They always had to prove themselves to the woman and her family in generations past. Yes, people put effort into their relationships. That's just common sense. My grandmother even told me that in her time as a young woman in Italy, men were put through a lot of testing by the woman's father and brothers sometimes lasting for a year to make sure he was a worthy provider for the girl in question. She even said that if a young woman got pregnant by a love…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/23 03:37 PM
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Yup! And taking away access to abortion has already caused that Stat to spike as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/23 03:31 PM
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This just reinforces my initial statement. Women have so much more to go before we get to experience genuine equality socially, economically and politically speaking. Additionally, the rights we do have are in constant danger because we are constantly having to defend them against men who think we should be subservient and just be satisfied playing a supportive role in their lives. As someone whose worked in male dominated trades my entire life, I can't deny the impact of the wage gap. Additiona…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/23 03:30 PM
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Oh right, that's why there's such a high mortality rates amongst birthing women and no access to abortions in most states. Tell me again about conservatives fighting against no fault divorces? Also, the pay gap and wage stagnation once women enter into a male dominated industries. Like, we have a lot of progress still to make.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/23 02:46 PM
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All of the numbers show that there are fewer people in relationships, marriage is on the decline, birth rates are dropping, more women are choosing to remain single and you're saying it's the dating profile pictures? No, we're saying it's because men have to make an effort instead of just forcing women to be financially dependent on men just to service. Any time a man looks at the dating situation objectively, he gets accused of being bitter and hating women. There's no way you can say incels or…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/23 12:49 PM
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OMG ffs, again incel and misandrists are two very different things. This is like arguing if nazis are also white nationalists. One can't exist without the other. I absolutely agree that but there is something called assertiveness and commanding which can also be qualities of a respectful and actual nice guy but is more of a defining trait or toxic abusers where most women confuse arrogance and narcissism with assertiveness and confidence. That's any human being. Lots of ponzi schemes are great e…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/23 01:16 AM
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Even a highly educated and respectful person can also be an incel. Or perhaps do you wanna invent some new words such people ? Yes, I'm aware that mental illness affects even the most educated and wealthy amongst us. The reason such misandristic people use the successful dating strategy by abusers as an example is cuz women are not friggin leaving this man despite knowing that they are abusers. Often thise women are stuck for a reason. Do you think someone whose being blackmailed will voluntaril…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/23 12:32 AM
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Buddy, I'm talking about grown women, not children. I'd find it weird if a little boy was wearing a thong and twerking same as a little girl. I'd also find it concerning if any child was acting like a grown adult in any capacity, not just when it concerns their clothing. That includes drinking, driving, swearing, watching or creating porn, sexual behavious in general, joining the military, getting married, etc. Thankfully women are adults who are legally allowed to do all of the above things. In…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/23 09:15 PM
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But, again, when you say "they'll literally fuck anything," you're trying to paint men in general a certain way because of the actions of a minuscule minority. There are female necrophiliacs as well. I have spoken to one: Half the incel posts on here are literally about hiw men will fuck anything so they shouldn't be held accountable for child support or cheating. Try again. There are female necrophiliacs as well. I have spoken to one And? It doesn't say she fucked an actual corpse. She just sai…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/23 09:07 PM
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That would also apply to any situation then. Abusers would be attracted to abuse victims and will put them in positions to abuse people. Men with high libidos and low self esteem will be attracted to partners with high libidos and low self esteem, etc. It's almost like clothes have never mattered and women are allowed to dress in ways that they feel the most confident in. I also wear makeup on occasion and it's rarely ever meant to impress a man.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/23 09:00 PM
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All my cousins were born with extra digits funnily enough. But no, I don't think all men are the problem. I think enough men are a problem that toxic views on sex and sexuality and consent are being too normalized and what women are wearing won't change that. My whole point isn't that all men are necrophiliacs. It's that they'll literally fuck anything so dressing to impress them is a moot point.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/23 08:34 PM
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100% agree. It's just that men are a bit easier to please Yeah, if you baby the man like a child then he's happy. Easier said than done when you're doing the vast majority of the domestic duties and emotional labour. You stop either of those and then men tend t become more difficult. Eh... sexual compatability has a ton of different factors that go into it. Much more complicated than the statement implies. Regarding incels... for some reason they care what women think. When you stop caring, sudd…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/23 08:32 PM
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Buddy, just read the other response to this statement. It's enough men that it's a problem and it's not like there aren't men defending literal necrophiliacs. Ten bucks said an incel has already suggested giving incels free reign to mortuaries as solution to chronic singleness. lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/23 07:48 PM
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Cool, most sane people aren't interested in their decaying bodies becoming unconsensual sex dolls though. Maybe that's why it's a literal crime to get your kinks crossing other people's boundaries, dead or alive. Not to mention the infections and diseases you can get from fucking corpses and passing those onto other living partners.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/23 06:51 PM
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Then volunteer your corpse for gay sex when you die.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/23 06:45 PM
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To be fair, men will literally fuck a corpse to the point where male morticians have to have extensive oversights and back ground checks. I don't think the fact some women enjoy feeling sexy and wear clothes they might enjoy and look good is the problem here.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/23 06:41 PM
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Yes, it's very made up. However, that doesn't mean it's entirely wrong. We can see see from studies that more sexual partners for women equals less overall satisfaction with their current partner. That's applicable to both men and women. Think of it like this... It's easy to go from being poor to being rich. However, if you try to go from a luxurious lifestyle to a poor one... well not many people are going to be happy doing that. In the same way, most women rather than refining tastes wind up s…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/23 05:03 PM
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Sure there are. Feminists aren't arguing that sometimes women can benefit from patriarchal values. Our issue is in order for women to benefit from the patriarchy (and traditional gender roles as a result) they'd have to still submit to a man. That means they'd have no control over their financial, domestic or social situations. So for the entire system to work where everybody is happy, the man has to consider his wife as someone who isn't just a tool to accomplish things in his own life.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/23 04:25 PM
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You both dated other people while being in a relationship together? We dated other people before we dated each other. How is that commitment if you are only together, because you both couldn't find a better option? Do you think you don't need to consiously choose to commit to the other person? Dating is literally just trial and error. Someone could be compatible with me on paper but in practice we don't function as a couple. It also means we get to take the time to talk and discuss our life goal…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/23 03:54 PM
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Do you even know the meaning of incel? Or do you just follow whatever is taught to you like someone says elephant is pink? Do you just parrot it? Technically it was a term coined by the LGBTQ and feminists to create a safe place to discuss sexual frustrations. Then modern incels began to take it over and turn it into a literal terrorist group. Yes, I know what an incel is. Love bombing is not the issue. In fact love bombing is what people love. It's the shitty behavior that abusers do that is wr…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/23 03:44 PM
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I get the appeal of being single for women. I grew up with the fundamentalist Christian dad who believed in assigned gender roles and I was fucking miserable. The most miserable women I ever met were heavily pressured to fill those roles as adults and encouraged to be a full time parent to their own partners. I had to clean up after my dad constantly and emotionally baby him even as a child. Everything in our lives centred around his beliefs, demands and whimes. It was genuinely exhausting. I vo…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/23 03:11 PM
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Because it works both ways. If my husband was a gambler or financially abusive/a poor spender/caught up in criminal activity I wasn't aware of then I would be legally tied to him and responsible for his debt. I'm happy I waited to make sure my husband was maturing and aging rather than going to turn into someone who was going to hold be back from our agreed upon communal goals and vice versa. We took our time, moved in together, made sure we both had some reasonable dating experience with other …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/23 02:56 PM
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Tax breaks and legal/medical benefits. Our relationship didn't elevate or improve simply because we got married though.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/23 02:17 PM
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I met my husband when I was 21 and married him at 27. Marriage is just a piece of paper.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/23 01:05 PM
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It's not. Love bombing is just meant to intentionally disguise and obscure shitty behaviour and red flags. Incels and red pillers just haven't learned to hide their red flags yet. Everything I've heard a red piller or incel say, I've heard these same abusive men say the same thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/23 12:58 PM
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So sex is evil in any context where someone isn't having it with you. Got it.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/23 12:57 PM
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Everything has a timer, youre only speaking of the downfall of their relationship Yes, that's usually the sign of an unsuccessful relationship: when it ends. An emotional terminology often labelled by those who wish to hide their own deficiencies. Just an observation. I've never heard an incel tell me what personality traits they like about a person or what emotional qualities compliment their own. I only hear that women need to do this or that to be a good partner. The very existence of this su…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/23 12:56 PM
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I grew up Christian fundamentalist with tradwife values. The most miserable people I ever met were the women trying to convince other women that they had to be subservient to men. I've watched enough of those relationships blow up to know even the most devoted wife and mothers couldn't guarantee a successful long term relationship. If you want a servant, not a partner then hire help. If you want a partner then that comes with a healthy dose of compromise. Women are human beings just like men. Th…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/23 09:20 AM
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We don't. Same as anything you post online, if it blows up then people will comment. And often it's the women in the country these men are visiting that are blowing up these posts until it gets back to western society. Look at 90 day fiance international though. There's plenty of great examples of passport bros having unrealistic expectations and it's just pure entertainment at this point.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/23 08:58 AM
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Nailed it. Women don't care. Is it predatory? Yes. But I'd rather warn the women than try and argue with a passport bro. It's like, go do you, boo. Go get your reality check. Nobody is stopping you.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/23 08:54 AM
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You love women enough when they serve your purpose. I think that's not really love because you're dating to find a perfect person, not a perfect partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/23 08:35 AM
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Hey, let me know how many pedophiles you distinguished on first sight. I mean, you must have the best judge of character in the world and never make mistakes in trusting people, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/23 08:32 AM
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Yeah, and the only difference between incels/redpillers and them is the love bombing. Why is this some sort of gotcha point for incels?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/23 08:31 AM
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I mean, if you've never heard the sound of a history book opening I could understand why you'd think it'd sound like straw.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/23 10:17 PM
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Okay, bud. Go to a comedy show and recite this exact post then. I'm sure the room will be filled with laughter. People clearly only go to roasts to hear incels' personal vendetta and beliefs against women.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/23 10:16 PM
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Then be alone and be happy you're alone. And I'm not talking about healthy communication like "Hey, when you did this, that hurt my feelings". I'm saying the vast majority of people don't want to hear about how much you distrust and dislike women as a whole. We don't want you to point out random strangers who have no intention of being involved with you in any capacity and shit all over them. It's not an attractive quality and it's not a great accomplishment to be the worst human being you could…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/23 03:39 PM
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As a feminist: if you don't have clear, undeniable consent and full participation from your partner then ask. This isn't rocket science.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/23 01:14 PM
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Honestly, this is a stupid argument considering most children are voluntarily celibate. And I'm not going to debate with you why a red piller is a bad partner. They know why. We all do. You don't make multiple governments' terrorist watch lists by being a good partner lol
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/23 02:36 AM
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This is exactly what I mean though why would you want to criticize your partner or even a potential partner? Why would you want to be criticized constantly? Why wouldn't you think that the woman you're interested isn't going to watch you criticize complete strangers and their choices and think that's a quality anybody would want to be around? Way to cement the point, bud.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/23 01:58 AM
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Yeah, nobody is saying men aren't raped. We're saying women can be expected to experience rape or sexual assault from their own colleagues if they join the military and that we have also be bayonnetted and/or raped to death. There's literally countless documents and reports from even other men committing the crimes to back this up. Literally, you can track the history of women in the military. Additionally, if you're quoting Marjorie Taylor Greene then you've already lost the argument lmao. That…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/23 11:37 PM
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I don't think half of this was in English.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/23 08:17 PM
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Absolutely. Codependence can be one hell of an addiction, and it is typical for this kind of addict to go from one walking red flag to the next. Usually it has something to do with reliving trauma they experienced at the hands of shitty parents. So we should hold fathers accountable when they normalize abuse in households to prevent a cycle of women accepting abusive behaviour from other shitty men? What positions did you have in mind here? More likely to be aggressive instead of descalating sit…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/23 08:15 PM
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If they're an incel or a redpiller then we already know.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/23 07:16 PM
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When they seek out men with red flags for personal relationships, absolutely. Do you, again, think anyone seeks out to be a victim for literal physical violence? Don't get me wrong, men are more likely to be hurt and the victim of violence because they tend to literally intentionally put themselves in those positions. Shouldn't we just assume all men are seeking violence then? Lots of women seek out the behavior. It's called relationship addiction or codependence. We should treat those addicts w…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/23 06:41 PM
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Men /women relationships are less likely to result in domestic violence compared to women/ women relationships.and men dongo to jail for domestic violence. Strawman argument. It just looks like it's more prevalent because it's such a smaller demographic. Not to mention, women are less likely to report assaults or have their reports even accepted if the assailant is a male. Lovely attempt to deflect though! The state literally takes money out of the salary of men(or women) for child support. And …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/23 05:46 PM
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Do...you think women haven't been killed in wars before? I am genuinely confused on why you think a woman has not been raped BEFORE getting bayoneted by a soldier. They literally have raped women and children TO DEATH as a war tactic. Like... what. Also, who was barring women from conscription again? Oh right! Men.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/23 05:12 PM
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OP was making the point that lots of women do tend to choose walking red flags despite having plenty of options. With adults, we should at least consider how their behavior is contributing the problem. So we should also blame men when they're victims of other men then too. Clearly men can't make good decisions on their friendship groups if they're choosing abusers/criminals/cheaters as friends. Also, this statement is so disingenuous. You think abusers come into relationships swinging? Like, abu…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/23 05:06 PM
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I've literally watch men cover for each other cheating. Make excuses for their friend's verbal abuses. Been told on mutlitple occassions throughout my life when I was being physically assaulted that "boys will be boys" and not to cause drama and punish men for their "mistakes" that have literally intentionally harmed other people. How many times have you seen men step up and tell their friends to pay child support for kids they actively planned? Or even the accidental ones? How many times have y…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/23 04:49 PM
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Sounds like you are having an unhinged rant based on nothing at all. Where did you get that idea? From the entire post where OP blamed women for being victims of abusive men. If he's doing that to complete strangers and because he's written about how he thinks women operate then how could we draw any other conclusion? This is just completely hysterical. One could argue blaming abuse victims for being abused is completely hysterical.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/23 04:41 PM
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Then that's just incompatibility and they should go their own seperate ways. It sucks but I'd rather not have you as a friend if you don't want that role anyways.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/23 02:14 PM
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So are all men just deadbeats or chads then? There is absolutely no middle ground whatsoever? People are just category A or category B? Where do intersex people fall into?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/23 01:46 PM
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Is that why men call out negligent fathers, abusive partner's and toxic men when they see them?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/23 01:03 PM
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The issue I have with this is the people telling us they're nice guys are usually the abusers and assholes. For example, OP isn't a nice person simply based on this post alone, but I'm sure they think they are. Men like OP will be constantly throwing their partner under the bus and verbally abusing them. They'll be blaming their partner for every inconvenience in their life and dog piling onto any mistake they make instead of being an uplifting and positive influence in their partner's life. Hec…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/23 12:37 PM
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Feel free to Google the website.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/23 12:57 AM
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I've literally watched the RCMP and other officers do rputineninspections on it as a licenses business. It's called islands finest in Victoria.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/23 12:27 AM
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Then men and women should fundamentally never coexist then.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/23 12:12 AM
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Buddy, I worked across the street froma legal workhouse. We have them here and incels still exist.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/23 12:08 AM
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Ah, kk, so you get why it's not productive to judge 50% of the entire population for the actions of a few then. Cool.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/23 11:26 PM
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And people are crapshoots. Two parents doesn't guarantee a healthy household the same way one does. And there's stronger cases of abuse in single father household statistically speaking than single mother households. Additionally, if the father is financially or physically abusive, he is more likely to get custody when he actually applies for it. Not to mention you're not including widows in that single moms Stat, or those suffering from mental illness, or partners who left physically handicappe…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/23 09:47 PM
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Wait, wait, wait. Wouldn't this comment be encouraging body positivity?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/23 08:29 PM
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Yeah, and you don't bring a nuclear bomb to a neighbourhood water fight, babe. It's called reading the room. Do comics just go on stage during celebrity roasts and provide an entire multi page presentation on the benefits of genocide or the holocaust? What is not clicking here?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/23 08:20 PM
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Incels: I don't value women as people. Women: Okay, we don't need to associate then. Also incels: waaaaa---women are big meanies who won't tolerate my abuse but I'm such a nice guy! Why can't they see that I'm only mean to every woman who I'm not sexually interested in (as long as she is equally interested in me of couuuuuurse)! Boohoo! Women suck!
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/23 07:02 PM
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Are men dogs then? Should we be leashing them? If one physically assaults someone should we just put them down for their aggressive behaviour then? should I let my husband know he's just a dumb animal and I will be making all his medical and financial decisions from now on since he's clearly not intelligent enough to be legally responsible for his own actions? Also, are men just shiting on floors and chewing up furniture now? Can I legally neuter my husband or any potential sons?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/23 06:06 PM
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Because pretty people shouldn't participate socially. Got it.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/23 06:00 PM
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So women need to just control men better. Got it.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/23 05:58 PM
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You mean to tell me that when somebody says point blank what they want out of a relationship, they might actually mean it? 🤔 I can see how a lot of women get stumped by this. She also mentioned that she also wasn't sure what she wanted and fooled herself into thinking she could compromise. This is pretty normal dating procedures. What is the offense here exactly? I know plenty of guys who beg and hound women for relationships before changing their minds too. Are you saying nobody will ever make …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/23 05:57 PM
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No, she directly calls her situationship trash. If you don't wanna spend 2 minutes to watch a video, kindly do not comment on it. She says "Some men are trash, should not be recycled or reused. I went running back to HIM " She is directly referring to her guy here. Oh, definitely get how you could get that correlation but the message I got was he didn't even pursue her and she still went back to him and she fully acknowledges that is on her. That being said, he could've still been a bad friend/a…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/23 05:54 PM
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Buddy, they had to write laws to include spousal and child support because shitty men have always existed.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/23 05:32 PM
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Did you even watch the video? She calls them trashy, NOT me. Please watch the video before commenting any further. She didn't. She said don't settle for trashy men (some men are straight up trash and should not be recycled or reused* was the exact terminology). He didn't call her situationship trash. And aside from that, she literally explained that she was problem and was very clear that she learned from her mistake too. Including not trying to make a round peg fit in a square hole. To learn fr…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/23 05:23 PM
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I'm asking scientifically, what do you want people to do about women having sex with men you deem to be trashy? What is the point of this post ? What do you think thisnpost accomplished? Or is this just supposed to stir up anger in other incels to send incels into her comment section and bombard her with shitty messages? I'm confused what the "science" being performed here is.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/23 05:15 PM
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I'm just wondering why you care that a complete stranger's sex life though. What was the point? Did you want to force her or women like her to sleep with you? You want to change sex education to include teaching giving charity sex to incels? What is your solution to this supposed slight against you?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/23 05:09 PM
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Or, hear me out, you hold yourselves and others accountable when they're negligent or absent fathers. Not to mention, when we do try and vet our potential partners men like to cut us off at the knees. "Are we dating the same guy?" was so upsetting for men that they created an online campaign against women sharing information on past or potential partners. We want to ensure they don't have a history of cheating? Well, we better not tell each other when they do it because that might hurt the dudes…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/23 05:08 PM
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My dad stuck around and he probably did more damage than if he would've just left tbh. Same with my husband's dad. His was severely physically and verbally abusive. Mine just was financially and emotionally abusive.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/23 04:59 PM
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A roast tends to be funny and light hearted dark humor. This was just an unhinged rant about how much this dude hates women and a great display of untreated mental illness. It's just sad at this point.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/23 04:57 PM
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Imagine going on a comedy themed subreddit and using it as a substitute for professional therapy to vent about your own unhinged theories about women. When incels ask why nobody wants them I would like to show them this post as an example of why.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/23 04:54 PM
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Do you want to force her to sleep with you? I'm confused why somebody else's sex life affects you whatsoever.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/23 04:48 PM
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This isn't entirely true. There are organizations of women that exist throughout society. Are womenhood categorized as a business or a charitable organization? What are the legal tax exemptions from operating as a woman corporation? Who is our CEO? Is there HR? Do we get employees of the month? How many vacation days do we get annually? What are we producing? Is our organization insured adequately? Thoughts on buying out the man organization? There are larger issues to consider other than just a…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/23 04:43 PM
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I've literal seen entire memes and interner threads on incel platforms on how women should distribute sex through government organized programs. A lot of incels seem to think our vaginas detach from our bodies and can be lent out for services. Some of the conversations I've had with incels are genuinely unhinged.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/23 04:37 PM
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They have legal prostition in Canada and we still have incels here. I am all for consensual sex work as a feminist (ie, not human trafficking someone or pimping out someone, predatory practices, etc) but, again, sex doesn't cure mental illness so incels and red pillers will continue to exist.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/23 04:34 PM
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I don't expect every man to find me attractive as a white woman. Or a tall woman. Or a curvy woman. Or as a blonde. Or with a round face. Or with a big butt. Or little boobs. Or because I wear glasses. You're allowed to be physically attracted to a type of person. I like skinny boys with big noses and big foreheads and glasses. I'm not hugely attracted to one race because if you have the right personality then I'm all in. It's about compatability and sexual attraction is a part of that. As long …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/23 01:57 PM
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Then go be with Chad, OP. He sounds amazing and you need to stop denting yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/23 10:26 PM
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Thank God my husband doesn't care about modesty or your opinion.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/23 09:01 PM
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Why do you think?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/23 06:36 PM
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I literally have a friend who was surrogate for a gay couple this year. Are you ignoring that infertility also affects men as well? Like.. Bro.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/23 06:08 PM
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I promise you I'd rather never have a child than have one with a man who thinks he's owed sex from me and that is a popular opinion amongst thr vat majority of women. Sperm banks existing won't negate your virginity because I'd rather die old and alone that be with someone who thinks that way.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/23 06:05 PM
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Boy, do you think a baby is made every time you have sex? Again, I don't understand your argument here. All I've said is I won't stay with a cheater and it's because of the risk of STDs and unwanted pregnancies outside my marriage. This isn't up for debate.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/23 03:54 AM
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Yo be fair, you're quoting golden dating eras where women weren't allowed to make comparable income to men if they could at all. There was no other choice for women but to date accordingly.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/23 05:16 PM
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Buddy, I've been with my partner for 13 years. I am the baby mama. And if he makes another baby mama then I am divorcing. This isn't rocket science.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/23 02:23 PM
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I get my partners tested before sex and i expect monogamy. What does virginity have to do with that?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/23 02:24 AM
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Nope. It's a deal breaker for me. I don't want diseases and potential other baby mama's complicating my life. If you cheat then I'm out.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/23 01:58 AM
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People used to ask my dad if I was his wife when I was 13. You're making a lot of assumptions about these relationships, bud.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/23 03:46 PM
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I think you're confusing logical conclusions for misandry. Feel free to clarify what is confusing for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/23 08:13 PM
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The male pill test resulted in a 2.8% increase in depression (compared with 0.5% in the pill). It resulted in suicides and at least one man left permanently infertile. Not exactly "half the side effects". The study was halted by the organizers, not the participants, a majority of whom said they still would have used it. Which birth control pill are you referring to for that Stat? Also, that still doesn't address the myriad of other side effects. Also bear in mind that the possible side effects o…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/23 08:08 PM
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When was this? Do you mean the study that was called off because a couple of the participants committed suicide and others were left permanently sterile? Again, half the side effects of women's birth control still. Women's pills have that plus blood clot risks, weight gain, hormonal imbalances, acne, toxic shock syndrom in some cases, etc. They only recall a birth control option once enough women HAVE DIED FROM IT. Google birth control recalls and even the history of it. Women have been literal …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/23 07:17 PM
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Again, that was a choice by men though. You could have a birth control pill for men with half the side effects of female birth control and yet men had an uproar over it. That isn't women's fault because men offload that responsibility onto women en masse because they felt the escalated risks women face when choosing birth control is better than risking a fraction of their health for the same results. This idea that it's easier for women is just incredibly hilarious though. Is it safer to wear a …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/23 07:06 PM
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Okay, hun. Sounds like you're telling me men are also liars as well as incompetent. Should we assume all men are selfish and negligent partners then? Regardless of your opinion on why biologically men should be exempt for being responsible for their own reproductive health and rights, the law has already been established. Men are just as responsible for their actions as women including when it comes to parental responsibilities. It's almost like there's enough confirmed data that proves men aren…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/23 04:13 PM
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So you think childbirth is reversible? Again, these are assumed risks. You get into a vehicle you acknowledge you may get into a car accident. Do you sue the government for giving you the license to operate the vehicle then? Same with going into an industry where there's dangerous machinery. Do you blame the employer for your own negligence if you know you entered that situation being warned of the risks affiliated with that employment? Accountability is a two way street, buddy. Men aren't helpl…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/23 03:58 PM
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I also agree women are largely responsible for our bodily choices. Its why i support abortion and men getting access to birth controm as well. You as a human being are responsible for the consensual sex you have and it's outcomes. Babies don't make themselves and birth control fails. I've had that happen personally too. But this is like saying if a woman infects a man knowingly with an STD she shouldn't be held accountable. Or should we not hold anybody accountable for sex and its consequences a…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/23 03:10 PM
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So it's women's fault for being single mothers? Who has all full control on the sexual market? Women So men shouldn't believe in Capitalism? Lol, jokes aside. Even if that were true does that therefore mean men should no longer be responsible for anything they full engage their consenting bodies into? Does that mean men aren't capable of making dangerous decisions about their own bodies then? This makes me think men are just dumb helpless animals who shouldn't have free will then. Who is dating …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/23 01:58 PM
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Iunno, just trying to follow your logic here.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/23 01:34 PM
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Yes, I would think people who committed surgically to being child free would also be fully engaged in a subreddit where they talk about being surgically committed to being child free lol. Yes, I know there are experiences where that has happened and I know lots of women in my own life who've actively pursued it and it can take years for most of them. One girl took her 10 years. She wanted it at 20 and got it in her thirties. Again, I agree with you but realistically, that hasn't been my personal…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/23 01:33 PM
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So you're saying women should stop having sex with their partners entirely unless it's to procreate because men can only perform emotional decsion making and cant be responsible for knowing sex=the potential for pregnancy. Got it.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/23 01:31 PM
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So it's women's fault for being single mothers? And men are just mindless idiots who make decisions instinctively and therefore can't be trusted with responsibilities? Which is it, are men great leaders and can be responsible for others and their own actions or all they just idiot victims who can't understand that sex=the potential for pregnancy and can't help themselves because hormones? Doesn't that make men really bad leaders and completely dependent on emotional decision making then?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/23 01:29 PM
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Oh, because we don't have laws and legal proceedings to navigate those scenarios? Again, the woman can also put the baby up for adoption but it's often the same dead beat daddies fighting against that alternative once the baby is born too. So you can't have your cake and eat it too. Either you accept the consequences of your actions or you don't have sex. We both agree.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/23 01:27 PM
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Fair enough. I will say that it's the exception, not the norm though.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/23 01:25 PM
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That's what's implied here. Stealthing happens to women too. I know plenty of people who've told me men have taken off condoms half way through sex. Or promised to put one on and had to fight to get it put on. I myself have experienced that with MY OWN HUSBAND. You can't say that tampering with birth control and coercive sex doesn't go both ways.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/23 01:24 PM
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Buddy, if you can't answer the question then just say so.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/23 12:46 PM
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If being a single mom is so easy then go for it. Those government benefits aren't just for women. They're legally deemed only applicable for the primary parent. If you think it's such an easy lifestyle then you should adopt a child and apply for the financial aid.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/23 12:42 PM
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Exactly. You shot semen into another person knowing the risks of that semen being spread around so you should be just as responsible for the consequences of sharing that semen. If you don't want to impregnate somebody then don't have sex or find your own form of birth control. If you don't want your partner to get an abortion then don't create a situation where abortion is necessary. Win-win! Your body=your problem. And when you stick your body into someone else's body then you need to be respon…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/23 12:38 PM
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You do understand birth control is a highly fu ked up area of medicine because testing is such a crap shoot on women right? Like, I can't take most forms of birth control because the pill is so harsh on heart conditions and hormonal birth controls have such severe side effects that I literally change personalities amongst other side effects. Heck, look up birth control recalls and how many deaths had to occur before getting pulled off shelves. Blood clots are a massive issue for most birth contr…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/23 12:35 PM
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Do you not understand the term "consensual"?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/23 12:31 PM
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Not to mention 2 forms of birth control failed on my honeymoon and that's how I got pregnant.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/23 12:30 PM
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My husband is procrastinating getting vasectomy but he never even had to go through a screening process for his procedure. He literally just asked his GP and his GP said "sure, let me know what dates work for you". Getting sterilized as a woman is a multi-year process though.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/23 12:29 PM
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So women choose to abused because laws written by and for men occasionally are so sexist they overwhelmingly harm men by default?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/23 05:03 AM
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And that man picked being abusive. Do we blame the victim or criminal then?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/23 03:37 PM
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I've been stalked, physically assaulted, had death threats against me from various men throughout my life. Should I also judge all men based solely on my worst experiences with them?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/23 06:21 PM
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I'm talking about male bosses, male family members, teachers, co-workers, colleagues, friends, service workers, etc when I talk about a lack of respect for women. It's the fact so many men need to find women just trying to do business, earn wages, have a social life, etc. not worthy of respect simply because they find them unfuckable. When I want a raise at work I don't want to have to beg for it while my male colleagues just have to show up occasionally and be doted on. I don't want to be offer…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/23 06:18 PM
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Again, a lot of these men wanting low "n counts" don't believe they themselves should be held to that standard. Realistically, low "n count" women their own age don't want them because they have too high of "n counts" anyways and therefore wouldn't qualify as a good partner. So a lot of this mentality that there are no good women over 30 is basically "there are no good women who want me because I can't meet my own expectations for what I want in a partner". Realistically, these men are just perp…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/23 03:50 PM
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Again, a lot of these men wanting low "n counts" don't believe they themselves should be held to that standard. Realistically, low "n count" women their own age don't want them because they have too high of "n counts" anyways and therefore wouldn't qualify as a good partner. So a lot of this mentality that there are no good women over 30 is basically "there are no good women who want me because I can't meet my own expectations for what I want in a partner". Realistically, these men are just perp…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/23 03:47 PM
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Yes, more. Tell me all the things men deserve that women don't. Let me know how empathy amongst men like you really works.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/23 11:05 PM
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All I have to do is read the responses to their thoughts on these issues. All I asked was if men had empathy for those issues. Supporting answer: you don't. Case closed. Confirmed. Don't come for me because you don't like the answer lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/23 11:04 PM
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Yeah, that's not how statistics work so that makes sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/23 11:03 PM
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And thanks for proving my entire point!
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/23 10:58 PM
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Saaaame
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/23 10:51 PM
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And I quote "And that's why I don't have empathy for men who make suffering a competition." When something disproportionately affects women it's a joke but you expect more sympathy and empathy than you're willing to ever reciprocate. Maybe be the change you want to see for once instead of just being part of the problem. Oh how horrible of me.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/23 10:51 PM
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Men murder everyone at a higher staristic than women do. Including children when they actually get custody (and abusive male partners are more likely to get custody). Again, you're just proving my point anyways. You don't actually care about solving any of the problems. You just want to make suffering a competition.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/23 10:49 PM
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Lol, again, even if that were somehow even statistically true (which it's not) my whole point is not that all age gaps are problematic. My whole point is if you're targeting inexperienced and naive people intentionally to exploit them through a power imbalance then you're a bad person and you should feel bad about your life choices.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/23 10:48 PM
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My whole point is not if women have it harder. My whole point is the same people saying nobody has any empathy for men are also the same people telling everyone that nobody else but them deserve empathy anyways.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/23 10:46 PM
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And that's why I don't have empathy for men who make suffering a competition. When something disproportionately affects women it's a joke but you expect more sympathy and empathy than you're willing to ever reciprocate. Maybe be the change you want to see for once instead of just being part of the problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/23 09:29 PM
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And yet here you are continuing to demonstrate my exact initial point. It's too easy.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/23 09:20 PM
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Thanks for reconfirmed everything we know about problematic men 😘🤩🤩
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/23 09:20 PM
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You should see my Facebook page. There's literally the same 10 dudes claiming they're going to commit suicide over every inconvenience in their life at any given point. 90% of the comments are women asking them to talk it out while the dudes egg them on. I've encouraged all those men to seek treatment for their mental health but they enjoy the attention too much to actually do it. Me? I just got therapy instead and didn't advertise it. Like most women I know. Ask me how many times my girlfriends…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/23 08:57 PM
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And yet here you are continuing to literally prove my point.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/23 08:54 PM
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Technically, the LGBTQ/transgenders have the highest suicide rates. And men are just more selfish with their methods so they're more instant. Women are more likely to consider the clean up process so there's more time for interventions. But way to prove my entire point. Why should we give you empathy when you can't provide any for us?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/23 08:54 PM
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Women attempt because they choose less selfish methods and are cleaner about it. Men like to blow their brains all over a house or jump in front of train tracks and have other people clean it up. Even in death women try to make themselves less of a burden so the methods aren't as instant and theres more likely of a chance for intervention. Like, that's just a statistical fact. Lmfao
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/23 08:41 PM
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Lmfao, I'm dying. This is genuinely hilarious. Thank you for the laughs.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/23 08:39 PM
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Women attempt suicide at higher rates. Technically the LGBTQ are the highest suicide rates. Thanks for proving my point though!
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/23 08:31 PM
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I'm laughing too hard. There are literally men who think you can stop your period by sheer will power and don't believe women can even orgasm. I don't know a single man in my life who would be an expert on women, let alone the women he interacts with every day. I would love to test your expertise on this lmao.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/23 08:24 PM
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Thoughts on femicide statistics? Rape statistics? Abuse statistics?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/23 08:00 PM
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So women aren't experts on men despite the fact we are better at attracting partners but men are experts on women because they have to work harder at it? Iunno, that logic kinda moots itself.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/23 07:57 PM
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Again, a lot of toxic men will consider healthy boundaries to be an affront to their own personhood. That's a you problem, hun.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/23 07:36 PM
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Hey, you're welcome to be as predatory with your dating as you want to be. Nobody is going to stop you as long as its legal. But just know that everyone is going to be judging the shit out of any >30 year old targeting 16-19 year olds specifically because they are naive and inexperienced and are unable to set up healthy boundaries with their partners. I literally know people who accidentally dated with large age gaps where the guy assumed the girl was much older and the girl assumed the guy was …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/23 05:45 PM
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Nobody said that. I know plenty of people in healthy age gap relationships. My own mother in law was 12 years old than her husband. My point is when you're specifically targeting barely legal adults as partners because of their lack of experience specifically then you are the problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/23 05:00 PM
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I agree. Now I set up healthy boundaries with friends/family/partners because I'd rather not become jaded by toxic men in my life. If you can't treat me with kindness and respect then you don't need to be in my life. I will also warn other people of your problematic behaviours now too. Feel free to continue being toxic but nobody is going to protect you from the consequences of your own actions anymore.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/23 04:52 PM
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I don't want a "high n count partner". That isn't some male dominated mentality anyways. You don't need to target someone 15 years younger to find that shared value at all. My point is 30 year old men targeting 18 year Olds because of their lack of experience in relationships and inability to set up healthy boundaries is the problem. It's predatory and it's almost inevitable the young women they target will leave once they figure out the toxic/abusive behaviours anyways. So therefore those men a…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/23 04:50 PM
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I've been with my husband for over 13 years now. If anything this is an impartial observation of certain toxic, older men who'd rather have children than adults as partners.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/23 04:45 PM
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I feel like you need to take your own advice here. There's a reason why a lot of men don't want partners with enough experience to call out their toxic behaviours. And it usually ends up with the woman leaving once they've experienced enough to know better.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/23 03:54 PM
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I know what you mean. I'm in my 30's now and I can't believe some of the abuse I put up with some past partners. You would not believe how many toxic men who'll scream in your face for saying a simple "no" to them. It really does jade you after the ~200th time
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/23 03:13 PM
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I think you guys tend to mistake developing healthy boundaries against toxic behaviour as bitterness.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/23 03:11 PM
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Manbabies: hey, we want a woman with low experience so they have nothing to compare our relationship to and won't be able to judge me accordingly. The younger the better because that guarantees less men have been able to manipulate her and be just as damaging as I personally am capable of being. Women: That's problematic that you'd target barely legal women you'd find inexperienced enough to manipulate. Also manbabie: its your fault for being so gullible and you're just bitter you're too old to …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/23 03:10 PM
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Because you've never experienced it and don't know anything better. I get it.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/23 06:17 PM
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I'm just confused why you care about the sex life of a stranger you're never going to actually interact with, let alone have sex with.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/23 03:10 PM
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Well, it IS a woman's problem if all of them are clamoring for for top 0.01 percent of men online, and you're not approachable in real-life. Good thing we're not then. Online dating is going down the tubes, and while we have all these means of communicating, we aren't usuing them very well. Literally, online dating has always been terrible. It's terrible whether you do it organically or face to face. That's the risk you run when you decide to be vulnerable and try and find a partner. That's lite…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/23 02:57 PM
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Then I agree.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/23 02:01 AM
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Cool, then men should get therapy. Because women aren't objects to be dominated and controlled. We're people.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/23 02:01 AM
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Honestly, that's not women's problems then. That's, again, an individual problem and men should seek therapy before making that someone else's problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/23 02:00 AM
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Okay, try and have your cake and eat it too then. Either you're can apply statistics entirely to dating and acknowledge that it impacts women's choices as well or you can acknowledge compatibility is an individual standard and nobody is obligated to lower their standards to make you personally happy.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/23 01:59 AM
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Okay, here's another piece if advice: don't be a victim. You're literally arguing that because some women know immediately you're not compatible that you deserve empathy. Like what? Should women have to suffer until YOU also figure out you're not compatible? What exactly is your solution here?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/23 01:58 AM
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And most mass shooters are straight white males. Am I statistically speaking supposed to feel safe around straight white males? My point is you can date according to statistics or you can date according to jndividual compatibility. That is your choice.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/23 11:31 PM
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My advice is simply to pick a partner you find compatible on a long term basis and learn to compromise to ensure mutual happiness. Dating isn't a game or a competition and the fact you treat it like it is is why women are not interested in you.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/23 10:41 PM
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It's always one extreme or the other with incels and red pillers. Yes, women like sex. Yes, women like relationships. Yes, women are allowed to have minimum standards to ensure long term compatibility. And that includes what they find physically attractive and sexual compatability. I don't think you understand that having sex doesn't fundamentally damage a person or your value as a human being.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/23 10:39 PM
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Personally, I see women sleeping with men who are hot first, and compatible second. Most guys who aren't in the first category, aren't gonna try to prioritize the second category. Yes, because women like sex too. I don't see what the problem is with women enjoying themselves on the same level as men. It's almost like we're all individuals and preserving the sanctity of our vagina doesn't really define who we are as people anymore.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/23 09:53 PM
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Hey, you guys are more than welcome to fall down the echo chamber or failed pick up artists and Macho men lying about their sexual prowess. I'm not stopping you. My point is that men like OP are going to be continuously asking and assuming things about women than actually take the word of actual women on what works. It's always one extreme or the other with men. There's no room for compromise and women would rather be alone than have to debate you on what we actually like anymore. Do with that i…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/23 09:51 PM
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The conversations here aren't about individuals. They're about noticing trends, patterns, tendencies. Just because a 6'2" millionaire woman dating a broke-ass 5'4" guy can post here that her mind is blown by everyone saying height and wealth matters doesn't mean that the general observation is wrong. So I can make assumptions about you then? Should I assume you're going to shoot up a sorority or run over a bus stop full of people with a van? I'm just wondering when we get to choose to separate t…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/23 09:44 PM
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Honestly, I doubt you're going to agree but I find it so fascinating that men who think like that see my relationships as some sort of scientific data point instead of just two people trying to find out if they'd be compatible long term. Like, it blows my kind that you could think of a human being as anything less than an actual sentient individual capable of reason and ambitions beyond just dating an incel or a red piller.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/23 06:28 PM
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Every day I'm blown away that some men genuinely think like this.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/23 02:37 PM
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This is like weaponozed incompetence at its peak.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/23 12:17 PM
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I think women are just as capable of mansplaining.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/23 01:57 AM
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I like breaking up the echo chamber. I'm on the other side of things: a realistic marriage with its genuine ups and downs. Also, I like debating and my husband doesn't so this scratches that itch.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/23 01:43 AM
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Nobody has ever claimed otherwise.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/23 01:39 AM
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mansplaining /ˈmansplāniNG/ nounINFORMAL the explanation of something by a man, typically to a woman, in a manner regarded as condescending or patronizing. "your response is classic mansplaining"
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/23 10:59 PM
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Lol, whatever you say, hun. Clearly you're the expert on mansplaining.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/23 10:58 PM
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Lol, I'm sure whatever I say you'll have a very specific explanation on why my personal experience couldn't possibly be what I actually experienced.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/23 10:24 PM
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I prefer 3 years above or below me if anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/23 09:08 PM
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I'd count mansplaining as a dude telling me how to use a nail gun while I'm teaching them how to frame a garage type thing. But thanks for mansplaining how mansplaining works.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/23 09:08 PM
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I'm sure you've taken some liberties with it but I didn't expect anything less posting on this sub.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/23 04:59 PM
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Wow, it's almost like you understood my initial point or something.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/23 04:55 PM
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And don't make some "clever" crack about how I'm mansplaining mansplaining. Iunno, the joke just writes itself now.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/23 04:54 PM
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The same kind of people teenage boys respect.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/23 03:40 PM
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I don't like oral sex so that would be preferred
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/23 12:06 PM
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I think as an adult I'm much more likely to set up boundaries and that can be seen as selfish but that's largely how I experienced being a teenager as a woman too. I lost a lot of respect for my dad when I saw how sexist he was towards his daughters and women in general. I thought a lot of what he did was normal and respectful to his religion and us growing up. As an adult I realize hiw selfish and self serving it was to have the females in your life forced into subservience while simultaneously…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/23 12:05 PM
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I've been assaulted far more by stranger men than by people I know so I'm just cautious of everyone at this point lol
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/23 11:58 AM
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Because the men I trusted, often was told to trust, did terrible fuxking things to me. I've told men no and I've been physically assaulted for it. I've been stalked. I've been targeted. I've been harassed. And I've watched men I respected abuse women and children. I also watch the news articles about how men often kill women they reject as well. And from my own experiences with men, I know how quickly that an assault can turn into a murder. And I agree, Not All Men. But I watched the men I trust…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/23 11:57 AM
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Eh, mansplaining is a term that I'm happy to share with you. Women are often invalidated if anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/23 11:46 AM
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That's any teenager/young person though. I wasn't respected as a teenage girl by teenage boys. Heck, teenage boys are notorious for also not having respect for anybody either. Teenagers are inherently selfish creatures and until they learn to respect everyone else, of course nobody has respect for them.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/23 11:44 AM
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I was a 12 year old girl once. Ask me how much more attention I got than as a full blown adult. Ask any woman how young it starts. The fact this blows your mind tells me you have no idea how early this starts.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/23 01:17 PM
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Eh, I don't need validation from a stranger on the internet. I'm just pointing out you're a great example of my initial point.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/23 01:16 PM
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I promise you, 12 year old girls everywhere would be incredibly thankful if men stopped paying attention to them. We don't want the kind of attention most men are offering us. Please, stop. You have our full permission.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/23 12:31 PM
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I agree. My favorite part is the fact that last comment (wanting women to stop acting single by giving up their whole personalities) just proved my entire point lmao.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/23 12:16 PM
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It is though. Nothing I said was something someone in a healthy, respectful relationship had to deny themselves. My husband and I both go on girls and guys nights. I still wear the same types of clothes as the day we met and so does he. I still have chikdhood guy friends I knew from before my husband and my husband has girl friends from before he met me, etc. This is my entire point though: you want to change women to fit your lifestyle and men are just as bad. You just proved it.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/23 12:14 PM
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So you don't think men should have boys nights then?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/23 02:33 AM
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And don't get me wrong, it hurts men too. Being told you can only be one thing and you're only going to be happy if you do these exact steps and none of it works out. I think that's how a lot of men view dating and it's not a great mentality. It also restricts men from expressing themselves emotionally and skyrockets suicide rates. It's just a toxic way to live.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/23 11:27 PM
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I don't think men are inherently evil people just because people like my dad exist. Or because people like my mother enable them. I see my dad as a very privileged man who was the golden child his entire life and someone who was also taught women should be supporting characters in men's lives. I don't hate him because he benefited from a society that supports that mentality. I hate that society set those expectations and expect women to just suffer in silence if they don't like it.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/23 11:20 PM
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Yes, we want a partner who is interested in us and reciprocates our communication needs. Thank you.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/23 10:53 PM
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My dad was a traditional family man who enforced gender roles. Wasn't allowed to cut my hair short, wear pants for a while there, women in the kitchen, etc. I can pretty much pinpoint when my suicidal depression began because of it. He normalized being paid less for equal work that affected me well into my career. I had no idea it was illegal to discriminate against women until 2 years into my business degree. My dad stopped talking to me the moment he found out I slept over at my now husband ho…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/23 10:47 PM
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Look at how many redpillers start dating women and also start telling them to cover up, cut out friends and family, etc. Half the sub is "if your girlfriend doesn't cover up for you/dump her male friends/stop going out for solo adventures/etc. then she's not a good girlfriend" posts.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/23 10:27 PM
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Eh, I do agree that essentially what it is tbh.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/23 07:41 PM
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I agree tbh
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/23 03:52 AM
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The idea that women intentionally befriend men specifically to have them as friends is somehow harmful to men is why friendzoning is a myth. I had guys try and claim I friendzoned them before. I genuinely didn't understand how: a) I was supposed to date multiple guys at once to embrace every dude who claimed I friendzoned them b) Know I was supposed to consider the guy who made a point to be my friend as anything more than just a friend c) Be expected to be romantically attracted to men who didn…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/23 03:42 AM
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Yes, because you gain weight when you age. My husband has as well since we got married. Should I dump him?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/23 12:57 AM
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Oh, but when you do it's valid?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/23 12:56 AM
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But you're saying it's okay to label an entire gender because the actions of outliers.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/23 12:54 AM
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The only ones I know were ones where the guy didn't pull their weight domestically, cheated, were abusive or other toxic traits. Seen a lot ofnguys claim exes were keeping them away from their kids while simultaneously canceling and bailing on any attempts to get them to hang out with their kids. Honestly, I know there are toxic women out there same way there are toxic men. Being an assholenisnt gender specific.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/23 12:53 AM
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Oh, so I guess you support this mentality then?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/23 12:51 AM
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Why?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/23 11:46 PM
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Honestly no.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/23 11:46 PM
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So I can call all men rapists and perverts then?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/23 11:45 PM
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Oh, I am fully aware.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/23 09:16 PM
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Honestly, yeah. You are both equal participants in a relationship. Being fuckzoned is really the counterpoint to being friend zoned to be fair as you can't be fuckzoned without a supposed friend designating you as their intended love interest. The forever girlfriend is just someone not communicating their relationship needs properly. I know plenty of long term girlfriends and boyfriends who don't want to get married as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/23 07:38 PM
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I'm not single. I've been with my husband for over 13 years now. That's why I'm baffled why you think all men share this very narrow-minded and toxic view of women.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/23 07:36 PM
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Yeah, most women already assume that anyways. You guys really don't do yourselves any favours do you?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/23 07:27 PM
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The Friend zone is just a myth. And I think demeaning the opposite sex to feel better about yourself and your own poor life choices is shitty no matter which gender is the victim.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/23 07:18 PM
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I have no idea what this was meant to mean. Simmer in silence about what?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/23 07:16 PM
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Every day I'm reminded why I'd rather be single than dating a guy who thinks this way about women at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/23 06:29 PM
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Lol whatever you say, Chico.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/23 10:25 PM
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Lol, I agree that my job doesn't take a lot of skill and isn't very hard. That's my entire point. Thanks for proving you're just here to insult not actually have a conversation though!
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/23 09:52 PM
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Lol, i feel like you're intimidated by a woman who can swing a hammer better than you can. Maybe when you've run your own construction business we can discuss some big boy issues, hun.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/23 09:46 PM
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I find the reverse tends to happen. I literally get confused about how unskilled some of the guys I've had to oversee have been. Lots of men definitely oversell their skills in this industry.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/23 09:40 PM
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Eh, more like gender norms were created and women were considered literal property during those periods.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/23 02:51 PM
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So is pulling numbers out of your arse. What numbers did I even suggest? What quantity is the confirmed equivalent for "alot"? Lmao More pulling numbers out of your arse. And child support <> alimony. Child support and custody also affects alimony. If the woman was unable to work due to being the primary parent, that's what's being calculated as well. Also, that's is an easily googled statistic. Everyone knows most custody cases are decided in mediation and the majority of the time, it's the mom…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/23 12:59 PM
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Google is free. But a lot of men decide on not taking equal or more custody of their children either so that has to factor in too.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/23 12:22 PM
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Casual sex isn't a new development. Historically speaking, we've always been having it.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/23 10:24 AM
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My boss told to my face he was paying me $3/hrs less than my male coworkers until I proved myself. Ended up smoking the other dudes and he later told me I was the best employee he ever had. Still no pay raise though. Definitely had less obvious experiences but Estill undeniable. One time they gave a seniority based shift to my brother who had quit the company a month earlier. When he refused they literally just moved onto the next guy. Again, I had better reviews than both candidates and a bette…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/23 11:36 PM
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I don't. I made it past the grunt work, got my business degree, coowned a framing business for a while and eventually got hired by a major developer to be in charge of home warranting as well as some development roles and they're training me to be a safety officer. But the reality is that I got lucky and I was persistent. I was lucky enough that I had a partner who could afford to have me being paid less than my male coworkers entering the industry, I'm lucky I had my degree saved up for beforeh…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/23 10:26 PM
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Yeah, it sucked breaking into the field. Between the cut throat hiring process, pay gap, the sexual harassment, the toxic work environments and shitty, sexist bosses it was tough but here I am on the other side of it still working in construction. I definitely wouldn't encourage women in the trades since there's such a massive risk, especially when you're operating alone on sites. But yeah, men make a tonne of mistakes and are simply saved by the sheer volume of their numbers. Basically, when a …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/23 09:41 PM
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I'm literally a woman in construction. It's not that hard, bud. I've seen a lot of fuck ups by dudes. Especially ones that could hurt somebody and I know plenty of negligent men who were careless and got killed on hurt on the job as well. I had to teach my own dad not cut backwards on a skillsaw and to rotate his tires.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/23 09:28 PM
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It's called having preferences, bro. I can't help if divorced dudes are disgusting.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/23 12:18 PM
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There's a division of assets but a lot of women pay alimony and child support too.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/23 12:15 PM
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Agreed! I don't need some lazy Schlub who couldn't cut it in a marriage half assing his way through another relationship. Nothing more disgusting than a man who can't get his shit together enough to make a woman happy enough to stay.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/23 12:01 PM
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I agree. That's why I'd never date a divorced dude.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/23 04:08 AM
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I agree. But I was pointing out that it is inevitable. Whether you make the switch in childhood or adulthood. I was a lat bloomer and didn't start to have a social life until adulthood. I don't feel like I missed anything by choosing that and although there was some catching up to do, it didn't overall have an impact on me long term.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/23 07:54 PM
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Then that isn't going to change into adulthood.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/23 07:41 PM
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Til underage sex will defeat teen pregnancy
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/23 07:40 PM
2

K, sounds like you're just a boy being a boy then.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/23 04:59 PM
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This paper places the ongoing debate concerning the hormonal modulation of women’s sexual desire within a historical context, and reviews controlled trials of estrogen and/or androgen therapies for low sexual desire in postmenopausal women. These studies demonstrate that estrogen-only therapies that produce periovulatory levels of circulating estradiol increase sexual desire in postmenopausal women. Again, your study doesn't include fertile women. It includes women who are entering menopause and…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/23 04:52 PM
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It's not a debate because you're trying to make this very personal and it's really just stating the facts : there is no research on women's horniness. It's all anecdotal and like most medical studies based off female mammal test subjects (ie, monkies) or menopausal women.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/23 03:00 PM
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Cool, anecdotal evidence is not a substitute for confirmed data though. I have a hard time believing most of things men have to say about women from my own lived experience as a woman. Does that also dismiss your own research?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/23 02:59 PM
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It is literally prevalent to the topic at hand. I was asked for an example of women controlling sexuality in a society and I provided it. Do you think cannibalism is the same as horniness as well? What is your intention here?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/23 02:57 PM
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Lol, so because rape and sexual coercian are so popular in porn does that make all men horny for rape?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/23 01:24 PM
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Your study is just a study on testosterone,m and it's effects. It doesn't actually measure anything else though The likelihood that an androgen-only clinical treatment will meaningfully increase women’s sexual desire is minimal, and the focus of pharmaceutical companies on the development of androgen therapies for the treatment of female sexual desire disorders is likely misplaced. Also, they studied most of this in monkeys and AGAIN menopausal women The hormonal modulation of female sexual moti…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/23 01:20 PM
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I have a feeling you don't like being proven wrong and will change the goalpost to fit any narrative you feel better supports your opinion. Should we dismiss all research because cannibals exist then?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/23 01:12 PM
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Feel free to use ye Ole Google machine. I've supplied my source and it's the most clear example of women willfully choosing sexual partners out of horniness off the top of my head. It's not like society has, again, ever encouraged women to be sexually progressive so that just further proves my point if anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/23 01:08 PM
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I agree. Both are harmful. Next.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/23 01:05 PM
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I agree. It's not a debate because there's literally nothing to debate.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/23 01:05 PM
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I find this whole debate absurd tbh. Can't take you boys seriously when you're acting up for ego's sake.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/23 04:14 AM
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And testosterone is just another anecdote. My whole point is there literally is not enough research to say which gender is hornier because, again, realistically this can only be measured on an individual level anyways. And your anecdotal evidence about a childhood cartoon (that also believed a lot of racist tropes we also don't see as socially acceptable as well) isn't really a great way to refute an entire multi billion dollare genre of media across multiple platforms specifically catered to ho…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/23 04:13 AM
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Let me know how many times you reported boys for sexual harassment and assaults at school and how those went.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/23 04:10 AM
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This sounds just like another boy just being a boy. Nailed it.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/23 04:10 AM
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https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mosuo_women
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/23 01:13 AM
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That is the societal pressure aspect largely. The indigenous communities who have maternal led tribes or practice sex positive communities tend to say that women are just as into sex as men are when it's socially accepted.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/23 12:43 AM
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Again, there's a literal entire fifty shades of Grey industry that would say otherwise. Also, if you read any of the research, testosterone isn't the same as horniness or sex drive. Women love sex. I know I have a far greater libido than my husband does and that's been consisten for 13 years.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/23 12:10 AM
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And that study could be true considering that one specific aspect but well never know until we overcome the medical bias against women. It sucks because it means we don't even have the opportunity to volunteer for these kinds of research.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/23 12:05 AM
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All your sources point out the same conclusion I did: there's not enough research and men just have higher testosterone. And these studies largely focus on the social aspect, not the hormonal/medical studying of it. If anything, your studies just further prove my entire conclusion: nobody has studied women and their bodies enough to actual conclude which gender is hornier. All they can do is point out different societal impacts that affect how horniness is demonstrated in men. Which, duh, women …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/23 10:56 PM
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Yup! Lots of times I looked back at relationships and realize I should've left earlier or that I exhibited some toxic behaviours. Nobody is perfect and I take responsibility for my role in those relationships breaking down. I've apologized to my past partners, respected the ones who didn't want to maintain contact and just tried to be a better partner in the future.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/23 08:44 PM
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That was easily debunked.. However, I do think it is hard to find firm research on anything medically related to women as we're often legally and mandatorily excluded from medical studies by default. We still don't know a lot of stuff about female bodies because we are ineligible due to the perceived risk to hypothetical fetuses. It's why birth control is such a crap shoot as well. That being said, we can look at the romance novel industry and that $1.4 billion dollars in revenue annually. Does …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/23 08:29 PM
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Women get horny. We just are told from a young age we have to control men's sexuality as well as our own while men are just told "boy's will be boys".
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/23 07:31 PM
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I like my men with big noses, receding hairline and skinny legs. Everyone finds different things attractive. I find it weird that this ultra masculine ideal for men is being marketed as both attainable and something all women want. I like great personalities and men who don't stick to traditional gender roles for example.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/23 07:30 PM
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I genuinely don't wear makeup the majority of the time and I live in a part of the country where most women I know are into hiking, outdoor sports, etc. The dating pool heavily favours men as there are far more eligible women than men on our island. The nightlife is full of sneakers, birkenstocks, blundstones and baggy jeans. Maybe some midriff at best. Nobody seems to give a shit about presenting themselves specifically to appeal to men's gazes. So my entire point is that women are individuals …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/23 05:46 PM
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Most people I know don't wear much makeup after covid tbh. Same with push up bras and heels. Even going clubbing where those items are appropriate is dying too. This is such a weird thing to be hung up on though.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/23 12:47 PM
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I love hanging out with men and some of my best friends are men. If we were scared of you then we wouldn't be hanging out with you. Unless you're genuinely blackmailing or coercing us to be there, we probably just enjoy your company.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/23 03:49 AM
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