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CMVZombombaby/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/21 11:47 PM
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I'm glad we can agree there are no victims when it comes to a relationship. Just a culmination of poor choices. Men should pay spousal and child support because of their poor decision making. I agree.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/24 02:15 AM
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I'm glad we can both agree men aren't victims for having to pay alimony and child support, especially for kids that aren't their own. That's just them suffering the consequences of their own actions. I'm glad we can agree.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/24 01:42 AM
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Again, bud, I have no pity for male victims anymore. You have taught me victims are just experiencing the consequences of their own actions. I guess that also applies to child support and alimony then too.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/24 07:52 PM
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I'm just saying, he's a victim why should anyone pity him? He knew the risks when he entered into any relationship, he should have expected to be blackmailed, lied to and abused accordingly to your logic. It goes both ways, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/24 10:39 PM
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I didn't say I was going to date my cousin. I asked if I should double down and tell him it's own fault and laugh in his face that he was a victim.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/24 12:55 AM
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The kind of people I attract as friends are the same kind of people I want as partners, just with the romantic attraction. If that bar is too high, then that's just simple incompatibility.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/24 01:28 PM
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Great, avpud all victims everywhere. They will appreciate it and so will I.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/24 12:58 PM
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I have the same standards for friends as I do for partners. Treat me with respect, kindness, empathy, and support me. And I will do the same for you. If the bar for my girl friends is too high for you (which my friends and former bfs have had no problem meeting btw) then maybe you're not boyfriend material.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/24 12:10 PM
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It should. I don't know of a legal scam but surely you do. There's plenty of legal scams. I guess I'm a better educated on what qualifies due to my credentials but being a victim of a legal scam is surprisingly pretty common. He never said he hung out with them. Assuming facts not in evidence. Anyone you know happen to know of, I guess we can attribute their shitty behavior to you as well. If he knows them enough that he knows their intimate sex lives, I doubt they're just observing from a dista…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/24 09:39 PM
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Yeah, and people can legally scam the elderly too. Ask my grandfather. That'll teach him to be susceptible to liars, I guess. Again, if you hang out with people who perpetuate shitty behaviour, don't be surprised if you are affiliated by default. I agree, it's not illegal to lie to get sex (largely as there are some clear coercive rape arguments that have been held up in courts of law too). Is it legal to be an asshole? Also, largely yes. That doesn't mean we have to respect you for it or be for…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/24 08:47 PM
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I don't expect another adult human being to parent another adult human being. But if you hang out with someone who is scamming old people out of their pensions, don't be surprised if you're lumped in as a bad apple as well. I don't think OP needs to wag his fingers at other adult men and their behaviours. But it feels weird he'd choose to do it to their victims instead.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/24 08:32 PM
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I think casual consensual sex shouldn't be judged. However, the lying to attain it and being a shitty person just to get your dick wet should he judged accordingly. And I think that applies to anyone, in general.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/24 08:21 PM
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No, he just knows and affiliates them and clearly blames the victims for the actions of the men he knows aren't being good people in general. It still reflects poorly on him.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/24 08:20 PM
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Right!?! Like, the perpetual victimhood of people who brag about surrounding themselves with shitty people is honestly astonishing. I wouldn't blame anyone for being the victim of a lie. Why are women exempt?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/24 07:20 PM
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I mean, these are your friends. That says more about you than the women they choose to lie/manipulate/steal/use/etc. in my opinion. Consensual sex is fun. It's weird how you're idolizing men who have to lie to get it though.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/24 06:27 PM
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I wonder if being in a 3 year global pandemic had anything to do with it... hmmmmmm
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/24 12:25 PM
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Egalitarian is a term that tends to only reference economic equality and is only used when discussing economies. Feminism is the correct term to use for a reason.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/24 12:08 PM
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Honestly, the only person you should love unconditionally is your child. You should have healthy boundaries with other people and standards of acceptable ways to be treated. That's not a man or woman thing. That's an individual thing. People can suck. That's not a gendered issue. Love should never be unconditional. I probably would stop loving my husband if he made a negligent mistake and killer someone out of carelessness. I clwould stop loving him if he was a pedophile. I would stop loving him…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/24 12:28 PM
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Statistically speaking, men are more likely to get custody (especially with a history of domestic abuse) than women WHEN THEY ACTUALLY APPLY FOR IT. Most custody cases are settled in mediation where the man chooses not to be primary parents and additionally, tend to phase out visitation over time.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/24 09:22 PM
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I work in physical trades and have my whole life. What are your qualifications? Have you asked women why they don't seek those jobs to begin with?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/24 09:21 PM
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I work in construction. I have done labour my whole life as a woman. I also have a university degree and am working on other qualifications in my career path to develop my skillsets. Do you think men are the only ones capable of these things? Why would you think that? Additionally, the biggest barrier to women being in the trades is men. Flat out. You're the biggest reason why women won't even apply for a lot of these positions. I had to literally be related to someone to even get my foot in the…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/24 09:20 PM
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Then why didn't he discuss that well in advance or abstain from sex until he did want to reproduce?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/24 11:23 PM
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If he doesn't want kids then he can get a vasectomy. Otherwise, unless it's rape or sexual coercion, then he's just as responsible as the other participant.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/24 10:00 PM
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Intimacy has rarely been an issue in our marriage tbh. And its because i always looked at my husband like the sun shined out his asshole that I didn't notice he didn't see me the same way by comparison. I'm also mildly autistic (late diagnosed) with a history of being an abuse victim (my dad was emotionally, physically and financially abusive). Additionally, I accept that he isn't perfect and neither am I. Have annoyances, problems and stuff too. I don't expect him to love me unconditionally. An…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/24 06:16 PM
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I dated an astro-physacist classicly handsome guy for like 2 weeks. Broke up with him when he wouldn't take my no as a full answer. Could have married a lawyer, doctor, rich heir, etc. if I wanted to. End up losing my v-card to a Jewish accountant who I still think very fondly of and we are both still friends (long distance didn't work out) and married a guy who treats me 50/50 usually. He does have his own trauma and history, he's not perfect by any stretch and we've had put tough patches but w…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/24 05:01 AM
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I don't hate my husband or my dad. But I am not blind or deaf to their limitations and how they treat people. And I work in construction in home warranty (and now with safety) and I have a business marketing degree. Art is just a side hustle. Do you put your company on your Reddit profile? My bad for having varied interests, I guess?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/24 01:20 AM
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Then that would make you incompatible and you know to move on. I know plenty of men who didn't like that I was a virgin and waiting until I was ready to lose it. Doesn't mean I deserve their attention and time either.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/24 01:14 AM
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My dad literally cries to my mom every day asking why I won't pick up his calls or talk to him. He goes to therapy for his depression. It took almost 60 years and he thinks just like you. I don't have to convince you what's going to be better for you. I just have seen the outcomes repeatedly growing up in a onservative Christian fundamentalist society whose family followed trad values and I witnessed a tonne of failed marriages followed by life long bachelor's whose children don't talk to them. …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/24 12:12 PM
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Oh, so you want to be a selfish partner who takes and never gives. Will you do that to your children too? My dad did that. We don't talk. He doesn't understand why but he will never ask me. Would that make you happy?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/24 12:05 PM
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Okay, what does low effort mean to you exactly? I know plenty of women who split costs on the first date. I asked my now husband out and we went halfsies on our dates and split costs even now according to income. That's just basic partnerships in general for modern couples though. When we talk about "low effort" what do you think that means exactly?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/24 01:50 AM
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My husband went into our relationship thinking it would fix him. All it did was break me. He's happy. I'm not. Yes, your life might improve but you've just created a burden on someone else as a result. Which, fundamentally, makes you a horrible partner. The real question is that the kind of partner you want to be?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/24 09:32 PM
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I don't think I could marry someone who comes home smelling of garbage every day. Again, I also wouldn't marry a lawyer because of their high demand job. Or a surgeon. It's literally just a personal preference.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/24 12:31 AM
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Would you date/marry a female sanitation worker? I think that's an individual opinion but I wouldn't date one for the same reason I wouldn't date a zookeeper, a lawyer or a police officer. I know the smell would suck, their lifestyle would conflict with mine and I like career driven partners in general. I've worked labour intensive blue collared jobs my entire life as a woman, for reference
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/24 04:32 PM
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I mean, I have only ever had abusive workplaces and abusive interpersonal relationships my entire life. Do I get an award for making it a competition?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/24 11:54 AM
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I am and it's a severely abusive one because ND women are highly vulnerable to abusive relationships. I'm literally built to be gullible. You know who targets gullible people? Abusers. I'd rather be single than in an abusive relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/24 01:20 AM
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I would say there are pros and cons to both including not being diagnosed very early and having severe suicidal depressive episodes because of it is a con. But I also find it incredibly weird when people make your personal experiences a competition like it's some sort of tally on a chalkboard wall. We all have it tough. My trauma existing doesn't invalidate yours. Two traumas don't cancel each other out. Why would you even try to compare suffering when you can just focus on the cause of the prob…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/24 01:19 AM
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Agreed
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/24 02:26 PM
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Because all the men in my life pretty much followed the exact same principles as I grew up conservative and Christian fundamentalist. In comparison to the men I grew up with, my husband seems like a far left liberal hippie.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/24 02:06 PM
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I would agreem there's pros and cons to every life experience. Why does one gender get decide whose is more important?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/24 02:05 PM
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My dad used to give us the silent treatment and refuse to tell us how we fucked up for days to years sometimes. My husband knows I'm autistic and can't read body language well and he will literally expect me to know when he's annoyed at him for the most mundane things that nobody else would get annoyed about. Lack of emotional intelligence is not just a female trait.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/24 12:26 PM
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As an autistic woman married to a neuro-typical man, this theory is hilarious to me. I had to learn to mask because people would literally scream in my face if I didn't follow the rules. My parents used the stick and the belt on me and we grew up really religious. I had rules my entire life that I had to abide by and my mask was essentially built for me. If you actually get to know autistic women when they unmask, you'd immediately backtrack. I assumed everyone was just an asshole and I had to b…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/24 12:23 PM
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I think 2 parent household are great and so does my dad. Didn't stop him stealing 12k from me and giving me an eating disorder before I left junior high though. It should please you to know my parents marriage is still going strong though!
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/24 08:34 PM
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I work in construction and a man is more likely to be the cause of some sort of little drama than a woman is. They're more likely to yell at you than apologize. Is it all men? No. But women tend to categorize jealousy, anxiety, moodiness, distrust, etc as anger because a lot of men don't know how to productively communicate their actual emotions. I say this as an autistic woman who grew up with an angry dad who was never violent. I grew up with an angry brother everyone adored. I married an angr…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/24 01:20 PM
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I didn't know I had autism until I was mid-30s. I just thought everyone thought the way I did and was just better at conforming to societal expectations than I was. I wore the clothes that made me uncomfortable because if I complained, I was the problem. Or I wasn't trying hard enough. Or I was treated poorly for wearing clothes I genuinely was comfortable in. I hyperfixated on religion too growing up in a conservative household. I was taught not to complain or mention anything wrong with me or …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/24 02:11 PM
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Society infatlizies men, more so when they're diagnosed with a disability. It's a disservice to everyone when you expect autistic women to be more mature but autistic men tend to be treated like children. It creates a stigma that autistic men aren't going to be good partners as a result. It's basically the backlash of weaponized incompetence.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/24 01:23 AM
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Weird, as a woman, I must be doing it wrong because I'm fully employed and supplied the majority of the deposit for our houses when we purchased them. Most women I know are employed full time and aren't SAHMs. In fact, in this economy, it's rare to have a stay at home partner unless their slaries dont cover daycare costs and it's more affordable to to be the SAHM than pay for childcare. This is such a weird argument.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/24 05:50 PM
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Yes, you need to learn emotional intelligence to be in relationships. You are correct.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/24 07:39 PM
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Your only data is based off one dating app 6 years ago. Again, how can you guarantee attraction for 99.9% of the population who never used that app?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/24 02:46 PM
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I have a business degree. I passed my stat course just fine. I'm asking how you apply the research. Also, if you know what women prefer statistically. Then why not just adapt to that? Additionally, most people don't use dating apps. I met my husband through friends at a party. My sister met hers through work. My brother married a university friend. My cousin just met her bf through friends. Etc. So, again. How can you guarantee everyone who doesn't use dating apps thinks that way too?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/24 01:30 PM
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Again, bud, can you guarantee that methodology will work on every single "female"? Have you calculated how much more attractive men are when they get therapy too then?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/24 01:12 PM
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Again, cool, I also have standards. You wouldn't cut it for me either. That's my entire point. This estandards GO BOTH WAYS. Thank God you get it finally.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/24 12:47 PM
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Wow, the math must be amazing. How did you manage to calculate the value of a human soul? What's the equation for attraction? How do we solve for X when it comes to honesty? What's like the official scientific scale doe attractiveness and does everyone measure it the exact same way globally? Bud, women are humans. We are individuals. The idea that you can scientifically translate hormones, social expectstions, individual upbringing, religious beliefs, traumatic experiences, mental illness, etc i…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/24 12:39 PM
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Oh cool. I'm married. Do you want to lock me in jail because you don't like my partner? Do you feel victimized that I said my wedding vows and you didn't? You aren't a victim because refuse to do the work to become an eligible partner for somebody else.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/24 12:36 PM
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Im not upset by it its descreptive of what is happening. If you want to argue against that then make an argument. You may be taking this argument personally but i'm not. Happily married and been with my husband over 14 years. Nothing personal about this argument for me either. Yup, men just wanting a non obese BMI is literally asking women to be bulimic. You can't make this up. After i just said male standards are shamed and ridiculed. Listen you're obviously insecure about your weight and are t…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/24 11:16 PM
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Again, what's the alternative? A government funded program to brainwash women into accepting lower standards? Getting rid of no-fault divorce? Changing the laws so women have less escape options? Like, you all act like the crazy thing is women not having higher expectations despite assuming more responsibilities socially these days than ever before. Women are working, contributing economically, still being the main caregivers and generally, running the household. When women go on strike, the wor…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/24 11:06 PM
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Because most of us left high-school and never looked back.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/24 10:43 PM
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Is your assumption that im struggling dating. Why exactly? Because you're upset about women choosing not to date you by having "too high of standards". Why are people who just say the blatant obvious, treated like they are part of the incel community? We clearly see a spreading of body positivity ideology and men are wondering why are our standards being shamed. Even the ones that clearly have fundemental health implications for our partner. The question is why do women want to stifle every sing…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/24 10:36 PM
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Cool, again, do you want to date fat women? Do you feel like you are obligated to date someone who isn't attractive to you or won't align long term to your overall goals and life choices? I mean, I just don't understand what your point is. Do you want angovernment assigned girlfriend?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/24 07:02 PM
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Ancestrally speaking, we all died at 30 from the bubonic plague. This is modern times. If you dont like living here then go join the Amish. I still fail to see how your personal preferences is any of my business and vice versa.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/24 06:27 PM
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Again, even if you believe that personally, why is that any of your business what a complete stranger chooses to do with their lives?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/24 06:23 PM
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As a fat woman, no, we don't. And I don't expect any. Because nobody owes me a relationship just for existing.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/24 06:15 PM
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Nobody has sympathy for people who play victim because they can't get laid, yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/24 05:50 PM
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I agree. Incels and redpillers aren't victims because most women choose not to date them.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/24 05:36 PM
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Even if you believe that, why is that any of your business to begin with?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/24 05:17 PM
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Yup, it's almost like humanity has no problem procrrating despite people's personal opinions about relationships and attraction.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/24 04:52 PM
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I agree. If your partner is not benefiting you and you are incompatible, you should break up. Women don't have the luxury of complaining to the world about foreseeable consequences and getting sympathy. They can't just create red pill/black pill/incel/MGTOW/tradlifestyle movements to complain into the void about their dating lives over. That's the difference in thise two situations.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/24 04:41 PM
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I'm agreeing with you.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/24 04:39 PM
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Exactly. If a girl you think is your equal doesn't reciprocate, then she's not your equal is she?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/24 04:31 PM
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As a woman, I'd rather be alone than in a relationship where my happiness is optional. If you think you get to decide that for me, then you'd be wrong. Why should I put all this time and effort into someone who doesn't even contribute positively to my lifestyle or align with my goals or ambitions? A lot of men think just asking for equal partnership is too high a standard and they all want virgin tradwives who both homeschool all their kids while also somehow working a full time job. I don't ask…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/24 04:28 PM
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Whoops, my God, I meant Elliot Rodgers. Thank you!
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/24 11:56 PM
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Sure, i think everyone has to figure out what a reasonable expectation is for themselves. Some people want kids, some people don't. Some people want a traditional lifestyle. Some don't. That all means different partner qualities and expectations.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/24 10:25 PM
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We can communicate and see if we're compatible. But I shouldn't have to teach you the fundamentals of how to be a good partner. Either you are or you aren't.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/24 10:22 PM
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Sure, there's pros and cons to everything, but it's not my responsibility to educate a potential partner on my needs or theirs. I can have unreasonable expectations. That's not your business. You may have unreasonable expectations. That's also not my business.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/24 09:25 PM
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I agree. But I don't blame all men for the actions or mentalities of a few. You can have your movement but when you get people like Andrew Taint and Elliot Rodger** then there's obviously a problem
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/24 09:23 PM
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I think everyone is an individual and they have individual experiences. One gender tends to hear certain messages more than then other at times but overall, dating is a crapshoot. You can't guarantee your partner. It's a lot of compromise. Even after being with my partner for over 14 years, there's still plenty to compromise and work on. I love my husband but neither of us are perfect partners who can read each other's minds at all times. People need to learn for themselves what they expect in a…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/24 09:17 PM
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Sure, bud. Let me know when you have some data instead of an opinion. I'm out.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/24 04:41 PM
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I do. Find me a source that doesn't replicate my findings.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/24 04:08 PM
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Cool, now find one on who talks more. Again, I found an article that summarizes the repeat replication of the findings. I have even separated the sources and supplied them for you. Where is your source that would imply the results aren't abke to be replicated?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/24 04:03 PM
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Oh, I agree. I think they create the MGTOW/incel/redpill/tradwife movement to help support that perception as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/24 02:51 PM
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As a woman, I think the redpill/blackpill/incel/tradwife/etc. movements are more geared towards helping that 20% cope with the fact they are in that category. Like some women have been taught to expect a Disney prince, some men were also taught women will just flock to you and you get your pick. Men've been told all women want is to settle down and get married just like we were. How they interpreted that was just different. They were told it was a burden but also an obligation and women were tol…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/24 01:52 PM
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Again, bud, find your own research or move on. The fact you can't is very telling.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/24 02:35 AM
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I did. Buddy, you're welcome to find any research that proves otherwise. I'm asking you to find something that doesn't replicate the research. You get that, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/24 01:15 AM
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Cool, we can confirm you know how to Google. Now I know you can Google whose the more talkative gender and confirm for us both what we already know.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/24 01:10 AM
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Feel free to provide your own sources at any time, bud.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/24 10:13 PM
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Buddy, I'm saying they point out multiple studies that replicated the same findings: if there is any difference in who speaks more, men tend to be the ones that were found to do it and it was incremental at best. Otherwise, there was no difference.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/24 07:42 PM
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Well, you clearly didn't read it as, again, it points out directly multiple studies that found men either talk slightly more or the same amount as women. This is a weird thing for you to be upset about as well, btw.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/24 07:11 PM
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Maybe if you read the study and the article, you'd find that it was all easily replicated. Men are little gossip queens. It's cool.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/24 05:35 PM
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Yeah, I know, understanding scientific research is not the red pills' strongest skillset.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/24 04:22 PM
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References Cameron, Deborah. “What Language Barrier?” The Guardian October 2007 www.theguardian.com/world/2007/oct/01/gender.books Tannen, Deborah. (1993) Gender and Conversational Interaction. Oxford University Press. Freed, Alice. “We Understand Perfectly: A Critique of Tannen’s View of Cross-sex Communication.” In Locating Power: Proceedings of The Second Berkeley Women and Language Conference (vol. 1), eds. Kira Hall, Mary Bucholtz, and Birch Moonwomon Berkeley: Berkeley Women and Language G…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/24 04:17 PM
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It's not a blog, it's a scientific journal but I totally get why you'd be undereducated enough not to understand that concept.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/24 03:29 PM
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Cool, again, Google is free. You're more than welcome to confirm for yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/24 11:45 AM
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Statistically speaking, men talk more in general but the difference is ultimately incrimental at best between men and women.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/24 12:56 AM
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Yeah, I asked out most of my exes and my husband.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/24 08:31 PM
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I got accused of dressing sex in a snowsuit, bud. Gtfo out of here lmao.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/24 08:24 PM
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Yeah, you said I saw this for myself and that's enough proof. Okay, well, same.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/24 05:17 PM
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I mean, I did look up the data. I use my eyeballs and looked out my window. Saw little people with tall girls, fat people with thin partners, tall guys and shirt girls, etc. I mean, the evidence is there. Why look any further?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/24 05:13 PM
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I like short guys so I couldn't answer thise but I wonder what the data is. Let me knownwhen you find it!
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/24 05:10 PM
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Again, if women only chose tall men, then why aren't we all tall instead of like just 2 inches over the course of humanity (and let's be aware that we went from walking on all 4s to two legs during that time period as well lmao).
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/24 05:04 PM
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Okay, so stop complaining and learn to live with it if that's your beliefs. Who cares why I would disagree with you. You clearly think that reasoning is beneficial and if it makes more men leave women alone then I support it.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/24 04:59 PM
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Oh, so you do believe in selective procreation for biological purposes. And wouldn't that mean men aren't inherently slaves to their libidos and are capable of learning to evolve to include emotional labour in their mating process then? Also, do you think appealing to height was always inherently ingrained in women and therefor we are also just victims to our biological drivers as well then? This is really fascinating and makes me have more questions about how biology affects humans and their pr…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/24 04:52 PM
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I'm pointing out Charles Darwin already confirmed this. We can see the differences in human evolution now. If height was a main factor in procreation, we would all be much taller by now lol
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/24 04:43 PM
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based on OUR entire timeline on earth. Buddy. Reading comprehension is not your strongest skillset, is it?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/24 04:41 PM
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Based on our entire timeline on earth. If only height mattered for our entire existence then there would be no short men left. Again, are men inherently slaves to their biology or not?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/24 04:34 PM
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It's literally how evolution works, hun. Those with the best features to survive are more likely to procreate. If tall men were the only ones getting laid then tall people would be the only people around. The self victimhood amongst the red pill community is unmatched. You guys all believe in biology and science until it actually works against your personal biases.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/24 04:24 PM
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I mean, you set the standard. Is this not what you wanted?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/24 03:05 AM
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You wanted my attention. Is this not the level of engagement you intended to have after you spammed me repeatedly trying to get it?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/24 03:04 AM
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I'm sure you think that.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/24 02:59 AM
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Okay, bud. Lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/24 02:54 AM
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Sure, bud.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/24 02:51 AM
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I mean, you've thoroughly convinced me you need some serious therapy so I'll say.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/24 02:49 AM
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You're an anonymous profile on a Reddit thread. What kind of sex appeal for you gebuinely think you are giving here? Because it reads as abusive 16 year old who might shoot up a school type of emotional intelligence.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/24 02:44 AM
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That's a weird way to interpret that comment but I'm sure you have some weird traumatic childhood experience that makes sense for you to say that.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/24 02:43 AM
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You responded 5 times to one comment. Clearly you wanted my attention or someone to notice your cries for help. I see you, bud. It's okay.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/24 02:42 AM
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Praying for your, pal 🙏
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/24 02:41 AM
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If you think lonely stranger's opinion in a debate sub is going to affect me, you haven't been on the internet very long. It's cool, bud. You'll grow up one day.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/24 02:37 AM
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Okay, bud. Whatever you need to tell yourself to cope. I get it.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/24 02:36 AM
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Yup, Clocked it from a mile away. I hope you get the help you need, bud. My husband put the work in and it did wonders. I can give you some support groups if you want to check them out? It's a lot of work to actually focus on self improvement but my husband is a healthier, happier person who has never regretted getting help when he needed it. It takes a brave person to ask for help. Don't be afraid to reach out when it all clicks. Cheers, bud.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/24 02:02 AM
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Bud, this is just sad. I'm sorry your insecurities have escalated to this point but you need to really get help if it's gotten this bad. I hope you get the help you need, hun.❤️
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/24 01:55 AM
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Again, accusations of lying when your abuse tactics fail, trying to damage credibility despite having no basis, trying to undermine my reputation by pointing fingers when you can't debate the topic, trying to use insults and threats to manipulate when other tactics dont work, etc. I mean, it's literally in the handbook. I am positive you believe everything you're saying about yourself and I feel sorry for you. It must be so hard being trapped into that abuse cycle and never understand why nobody…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/24 01:52 AM
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Nah, babe. I know exactly how to push your buttons. You just have to identify the abuse tactic. I mean, again, most abusers don't think they're abusive. I'm positive there is no way you think you are. The abusers I know also think their abusive episodes are other people's fault and they're very convincing when they do it. It explains why you're so adamant that victims have a choice. You genuinely believe that as an abuser people are more responsible for "making you react" than you are for choosi…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/24 01:47 AM
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Bud, nobody cares. I don't want a promiscuous partner which is why I didn't marry someone like you. How you and your partners choose to live their lives is none of my business. I'm sure the lack of repeat customers speaks volumes though. Like, am I supposed to be jealous? I don't understand why you talking about your private sex life is some kind of power move but you do you, boo.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/24 01:39 AM
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Another DARVO technique. It's like you took notes and decided to elevate it. Nobody cheated. He had a traumatic childhoodnwhere his dad was severely abusive and his mom passed unexpectedly while his dad also escalated his abuse towars his children and his mom. But yeah, you sound just like him during his peak abuse moments. It's almost uncanny.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/24 01:37 AM
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Textbook DARVO tactics. Can clock it all by this point. Again, most abusers don't even think they're abusers. Clearly you're not an exception to this rule.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/24 12:35 AM
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Buddy, I get it now. You want to blame women when you get abusive and aren't a good person fundamentally. Good luck with that!
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/24 12:33 AM
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Again, the only way you'd think that is if you were an abuser. Only abusive people think the way you're thinking. You get that, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/24 12:25 AM
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You're gonna tell me that some of the best sex of your life in one of those abusive relationships didn't come on the heel of being beaten or otherwise abused?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/24 12:06 AM
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No, I'm asking why you would assume that unless you were a domestic abuser. I know plenty of men who didn't think they abuse they used on women didn't translate into their sexual relationships as well. I used to use sex amongst complete compliance to make the abuse stop before I realized it was emotional abuse. So if you think the sex is better after an abuse episode, you'd only be able to view it through an abusers perspective which is why you think both parties are enjoying the post-abuse sex …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/24 10:40 PM
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Again, how would you know sex is better after an abusive episode if you haven't experienced it yourself? 🤔
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/24 10:09 PM
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And you'd say that from personal experience as an abuser then?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/24 10:05 PM
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Buddy, you literally told us that you think victims deserve to be blamed for being abused. The fact you think sex gets better after a domestic abuse episode is horrifying and very telling. I think you're arguing from a personal position to defend either past or current actions. Ew.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/24 09:52 PM
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Hmm, I am not surprised someone capable of abuse would defend it. This checks out.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/24 09:49 PM
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Telling women their standards are too high because they don't want to date or pursue men who they aren't personally attracted to for a LTR is absurd.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/24 09:48 PM
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Well this explains why you have no interest in letting any women actually getting to know you. This is a very horrifying position to take for anyone. And very interesting that you know so little about domestic abuse but feel so confident expressing your opinion on it. I admire your bravery to display your dedication to being so purposefully ignorant. Most people don't get to adulthood holding onto the same beliefs they held as 10 year olds. You're gonna tell me that some of the best sex of your …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/24 09:28 PM
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Ah, okay, yeah, so if I have blackmail on you and could send you to jail/keep you from your kids/be a risk to your or your family's personal safety, how secure would you feel leaving knowing the legal system doesn't protect domestic abuse victims? Would you feel safe leaving your child alone with a domestic abuser while you figured out the legal logistics of documenting the abuse to push for full custody? Would you even stay to create an evidence trail to set up that in the future? Because most …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/24 09:07 PM
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Yeah I'm such an incel having fucked hundreds of women lol My bad, red pill. It's hard to tell you guys apart. I am a good person. Here I am telling the truth. Do you also tell male domestic abuse victims it's their fault for choosing the wrong partners too
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/24 08:50 PM
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I chose my dad and brother? I chose to grow up being taught to tolerate that treatment? Lol ok
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/24 08:48 PM
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Sure, bud. It's not your fault you can't choose to be a good person, it's the entire female populations fault. Classic incel logic.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/24 08:36 PM
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Well, I didn't fuck my dad or brother and they still managed to be abusive and set that standard. Is it my fault I didn't emancipate myself at birth?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/24 08:31 PM
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I didn't choose my family, bro.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/24 06:47 PM
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I supplied my sources. It's not my fault yours doesn't even touch on the opinions you're offering. Again, if you have data, let me see. Otherwise, you're just arguing from your feelings and I understand further why you wouldn't make a very good partner for anyone if this is how you treat women in general.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/24 06:46 PM
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Okay, so we can assume all straight males are one step away from sexual assaulting women by your logic.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/24 05:36 PM
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Your first one is from 2001 so the data is incredibly outdated. And nobody is saying women aren't violent towards their partners. But your data doesn't even cover same sex relationships because its so old and taken from before same sex marriages were even legal in the states. Also, culturally, as someone who lived in 2001 in my early teens, it wasn't a very progressive time and women weren't even being given the time of day during those reports. Also, rape wasn't even legally deemed a crime with…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/24 02:12 PM
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Millions of women right now are knowingly in abusive relationships with men who berate them, beat them, and treat them like dogshit and despite that they still enthusiastically fuck those very men. I was one of those women. You know who taught me to accept that kind of treatment? My dad and brother. I thought that all men treated their partners with utter vitriol and disdain because that's just how men were. My own husband included. Except he was better because at least he didn't financially abu…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/24 01:59 PM
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That's actually a misconstrued data point about domestic violence. Lesbian women aren't more likely to be perpetrators of DV, they are just more likely to have been victims of it as some point in their lives. Females are still far less likely to commit DV, murder, or family Wipeouts. And, again, it's weird that you think 5 to 50 women have the exact same values, beliefs, attraction, etc as billions of other women.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/24 04:19 AM
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I think you confuse one bad experience with the experience of billions of other people and it's telling because that's a very unrealistic and unattractive quality.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/24 04:16 AM
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I'm saying that. If women don't know your suffering then why not?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/24 11:12 PM
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I'm just wondering. If all women expect the exact same thing in a partner: explain lesbians and bisexuals/the LGBTQ community.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/24 10:53 PM
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And this response has demonstrated why women will not be in a relationship with you. If a woman told you this about men, would you want to be in a relationship with her?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/24 09:42 PM
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My depression wasn't cured. I'm just no longer legally or.medically deemed suicidal depressed. Of course I still have depression? I just also have years of medication, therapy and change in lifestyle choices that make it manageable. I had to do actual work. And women don't struggle the same way. Because struggle isn't a competition and the same way most men will never know childbirth, most women also not know testicular cancer. It doesn't make testicular cancer more or less important than ovaria…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/24 09:41 PM
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You pointed it out though and it did kind of click. If women only inherently want good looking rich partners then why do lesbians not have that same ambition? Wouldn't that directly contradict your entire point if lesbians exist? Or do they not count as women?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/24 09:36 PM
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Why are you bombarding me with responses? This perpetual victimhood isn't attractive. This is probably why women don't want to be around you to be fair.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/24 09:34 PM
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That's not a lot of people on dating apps. Also, you can't guarantee they're all only using dating apps as well and nothing else to supplement their dating lives. I know plenty of girl friends who used dating apps (or whose parents even using dating apps) who still meet potential dates in person at hobbies, jobs, school, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/24 07:51 PM
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So you're saying women don't have a looks issue when it comes to other women, it's just men. But yet all women only use looks or money for attraction. Despite poor, ugly lesbians easily finding partners and living happy lives. There's something that's an outlier here but I can't imagine what...
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/24 07:45 PM
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So rules for thee but not for me? Got it.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/24 07:01 PM
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Yes, most people could go out and get women. I'm an overweight cis 34 yr old old woman. I could also pull a lot of women if I wanted to. Everyone has something that disadvantages them.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/24 04:40 PM
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A lack of interpersonal skills due to struggling to find someone organically or in-person. Being forced to start to interact with people based solely on appearance and first glances rather than verified by friend groups and through social outlets. Technological literacy and motivation to always have the nrxt modern convenience and app and so on. Like, most people surround themselves with people who fit their own lifestyles. Of course you're gonna find socially awkward losers of both genders on d…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/24 03:54 PM
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I agree. And I apply that logic to people who suffer physical imperfections or disabilities or whatever in general, short men included.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/24 03:43 PM
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Yes, it's a large number of users who choose a certain lifestyle and need a dating technique that fits that. What do online people all have in common?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/24 01:27 PM
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Yes, everybody usually has something they need to overcome unless they're born wealthy and/or pretty. What makes short people worth more empathy than someone with acm cleft pallet, a brain injury, neuro-diverse, a different skin colour, bad genetics, abusive parents, women who've had female genital mutilation, etc? I myself am a neuro-divergent, handicapped woman with abusive, extremist religious parents who were poor. Is my struggle more valuable and worth more than a short neuro typical man wh…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/24 12:52 PM
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Not really. The only reason I didn't marry my shorter bf than him before was because of religious differences and long distance. Height wasn't a factor when I met my husband. His sense kf humor won me over. Same with my ex. Correlation is not causation.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/24 11:39 AM
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Okay, most people aren't that attractive or wealthy. I think short people will be in good company. I'm not sure what the victimhood here is.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/24 11:36 AM
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Yeah, people are individuals. Attraction is an individual issue. Also, most people don't solely use dating apps to meet people. It's weird you'd think that.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/24 11:35 AM
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Not everyone uses dating apps. I met my husband st a party. Some people meet at work. Or church. Or through friends. Or at hobbies. Where's that data?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/24 05:41 AM
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Feel free to gather the data instead of simply arguing from your emotions.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/24 05:22 AM
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Thanks. I appreciate you taking the time to understand what I'm saying and asking questions. I think alot of people misunderstand that it's okay to have preferences (age, race, sex religion, career paths, etc). But there's healthy ways to have those and unhealthy ways to have those expectstions. I wouldn't marry a cop for a number of reasons. I also would never marry a doctor or lawyer or someone with a high demand job and a lack of work life balance. I like my 9-5 construction worker husband wh…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/24 05:14 AM
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Yeah? I'm an overweight 30 year old woman and I wouldn't date a man too fat to hike a mountain with me. It's reasonable to have bare minimum expectations from your partner. If I can do 10k a day, you should be able too if that's what I value and think will make us compatible. We all have personal preferences. If you only choose partners solely because of their weight ALONE then that would be a fetish. If you prefer someone who can be active with you, eat healthy, grow with you and your health is…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/24 04:31 AM
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Honestly, they're both sides of the same coin. One is just a more extremist belief of the other.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/24 10:55 PM
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Libido is an individual factor. Also, I know plenty of women who enjoy sex. I know a lot of women who will stop having sex with men who don't care if their partner is even enjoying the sex in the first place. I mean, women are horny. But we'd rather just not have sex than have horrible, unfulfilling sex with a partner who makes sex a chore where we never actually climax or enjoy it. If you're bad at sex, expect women to lose desire for you. If you are a shitty partner, also expect women to lose …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/24 10:47 PM
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Yes, most women with fetishes would do the same.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/24 10:27 PM
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Again, I don't doubt short men face some discrimination. But all their misfortunes, including g their success with women, isn't solely from their height alone. That's my entire point. A lot of these short incels/red pillers will blame everything that doesn't go right in their lives on their height. Being short doesn't mean you can't get therapy. Being short doesn't mean you're not able to get an education. Being short doesn't mean you can't work on your inter-personal skills and emotional intell…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/24 09:57 PM
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Yeah. Then I understand your position better then.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/24 09:37 PM
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I agree. I am an overweight woman in her mid-30's. I absolutely agree nobody owes me a relationship and that you can't force attraction for my body type. The same goes for anyone who might be short, tall, skinny, handicapped, mentally disabled, white, black or rainbow etc. But my weight doesn't define my worth in society. It just defines my worth to some people. That being said, short men don't get sympathy points for just existing. Again, everyone has individual struggles. Short men are not mor…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/24 09:35 PM
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Again, that's a preference. I prefer super skinny dudes in general but they don't need to have an eating disorder to make me happy. I can't help my attraction but I also know people aren't less than for not meeting my personal expectations in a partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/24 09:24 PM
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So you've just repeated exactly what I've said about personal preferences. I get it. I like big noses, skinny legs, big forearms, high foreheads and a nice pronounce jawline. I like guy who can keep up with me physically too. That's a very reasonable expectation to have. Again, if your weight is impacting your quality of life (ie, too thin or too big) then yeah, most people would have a problem and you're entering into fetish territory
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/24 08:53 PM
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Okay? I haven't had that problem as a 5'7 woman but I prefer men with substance and character over purely physical appearance. I know plenty of people (both men and women) might feel differently because attraction isn't a perfect formula that can be applied to each individual equally. I know there are physical qualities I am attracted to in a partner that I need so I understand your preference too. Again, though, do you have a specific height requirement exactly or just a broad preference that y…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/24 08:51 PM
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Okay, riddle me this: what's the exact weight/physical requirements you want in a partner?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/24 08:45 PM
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Ok, then why do women declining relationships for any reason some sort of affront to you?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/24 08:44 PM
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I didn’t say that either, I’m just saying that is way harder for short men. And it's hard for minority women. And people who are physically disabled. And it's hard for people with learning disabilities. Or who grew up in abject poverty or with abusive households. Or neuro-divergent people. Life is not fair. Just because you say it doesn’t really matter overall doesn’t mean it aligns with what actually happens in the world. My point exactly. Couldn't agree more. Just because you're not experienci…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/24 08:43 PM
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If you won't change for somebody else then why would anyone change for you? Again, I don't care about your self improvement journey. I'm pointing out most PEOPLE want a partner who doesn't try to change their core values, don't force opposing ideals and life goals onto you and are overall fundamentally compatible long term. Most PEOPLE want someone who will always strive for self-improvement or at least progression beyond early adulthood. The fact most women also share these expectations does no…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/24 08:06 PM
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Nobody said you were a bad person.Weird you'd automatically hear "work on yourself and your own happiness" and translate that into "I'm a bad person". But being a good person doesn't automatically make you a great partner. Again, I've been with my husband over 14 years. He has his ups and downs and so do I. But he's not responsible for my happiness and I'm not responsible for his. If he's diagnosed with depression, I am happy to support him as he gets care but I am not changing who I am fundamen…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/24 06:53 PM
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Again, so what? Is there a movement killing all short people and prosecuting them for their genetics? Again, heifer will not cure your poor self esteem. Tall men have also felt victimized for not getting a relationship as well. I know plenty of tall, handsome men who struggled getting girlfriends because they didn't have anything else to offer aside from height. Height is not going to cure how you choose to treat people.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/24 06:40 PM
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Again, if you think this way, why would a woman even want to date you? If you think this way about half the population, why would half the population take a risk and date you? I don't want someone I have to parent into being a good partner. Red pill men don't seem to understand that concept. I don't think I'm owed a relationship. Why do redpillers think they're special in this regard?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/24 06:38 PM
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Ah, okay, so short men don't procreate whatsoever then? No short families exist? Like, it's a fun notion but the reality is that height is a minimal factor in these decisions the same way weight is. 2-5 inches doesn't make a difference for most women. The guys. I dated who were shorter than me made a bigger deal about it than anyone else by far. I didn't even notice the height difference initially because I genuinely did not care. Most grown women I know don't mention height. We genuinely do not…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/24 06:07 PM
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I mean, again, I support your decision. I just find it interestjnf that a lot of men get upset when women return their energy. I chose my husband because he puts the work in. He's qlways trying to improve and so am I. If I wanted someone who stagnated and played victim every time things became mildly inconvenient then I'd have another toddler. If height is the only thing holding you back, then how are people who are shorter than you functioning just fine in society?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/24 06:04 PM
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Then you've answered your own question. You get the energy you give and you feel victimized. Relationships are work. If you don't want to put the work in, that's totally fine. But it's weird when you judge women when they are simply matching your energy.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/24 05:55 PM
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Again, you are the one in charge of your own happiness. Do you think someone else is responsible for managing your emotions and your self worth? Like, I am sorry you're going through that but what makes your struggle more important than mine? And I mean that genuinely. Why should I put aside my support system, my comfort, my self worth to support a man who just told me you don't even have empathy for me or my situation in any capacity? And, again, I am saying this hypothetically, as I don't have…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/24 05:40 PM
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Have you considered these men are doing the work for themselves to be happy instead of forcing that labour onto their partners? I've been with my husband 14 years. It takes work to make and sustain a relationship. It also takes being responsible for your own happiness. Getting married didn't cure my depression. Getting help for myself from professionals and working on myself did. Women are human beings like men. We all struggle. But you wouldn't want a partner who needs you to act exactly a cert…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/24 04:53 PM
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Cool, and this is why we can't take the redpill seriously. If only 6'5 men were getting laid then 5'4 men would have already been bred put of existence by now. My husband is 5'11 and he can get laid any day. I'm 5'7 and I've dated guys were were 5'6 or shorter before. Height really doesn't matter as much to women as it does to short men. Genuinely, it's really sad how often men will judge each other and themselves before actually getting the opinion of a woman. This is a great example of that.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/24 04:45 PM
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If you like tall men but don't ultimately care if your partner is 6'5 or 5'4 then that's a preference. If you'll only date tall men who are above 6'5 then that's a fetish. Same with weight, if you don't mind a plus size person but prefer skinnier, that's a preference. If you need someone the size of Eugenia Coonie or someone so overweight it affects their quality of life then that's a fetish.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/24 04:33 PM
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Yup. I want to progress my career, travel a bit, I'm left leaning, we wanted to raise our kid the same, etc. It's literally that easy.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/24 12:06 AM
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You're compromising. Its called compromise. I want a guy who will provide a million dollar salary, do all the diapers, clean the house and tell me I'm the best thing that ever happened to me every day.m while he rocks my world 3 times a week. I absolutely still love my husband for struggling along side me, doing the dishes, helping with the domestic labour load and date nights twice a month and quickies when the kiddo is preoccupied. I have understood that life isn't fair, I'm not going to win t…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/24 11:46 PM
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Happily married as well as gainfully employed so I'll pass.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/24 04:01 AM
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I mean, okay, but it's really gonna limit your job opportunities in construction.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/24 03:54 AM
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Are you fist fighting your coworkers, bud? Cuz that's gonna get you kicked off site pretty quick.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/24 03:51 AM
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I don't fist fight lumber so i think I'll be okay.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/24 03:47 AM
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Financially, emotionally, and physically, yes. I did go through some severe health issues where he had to support me but he got paid out equally in my lawsuit for that and I basically gave him a running start on his retirement fund and supplied the down-payment for our homes, technically.iunno, we don't really keep track of who does what more because I think his support when I was at my lowest is worth more than all the money in the world, and how do you monetize that kind of love? I mean, he ha…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/24 08:18 PM
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It's not our job to make you treat us as human beings. You have to fundamentally want to grow for yourself before you can expect anyone to want to grow with you. Do the work for yourself, nobody owes you a relationship when you're not capable of being an equal partner from day 1 and will resist any suggestion of how to improve. And I say that for everyone, regardless of gender or sexual orientation. Nobody wants to do the emotional labour for a full grown adult. Autistic Men aren't special. They…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/24 06:12 PM
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I honestly somewhat agree but not in the same way that you might think. I think a lot of men aren't taught the social and emotional skills to process the work that goes into those areas. Being emotionally intelligent is a lot of work. I'm working on an autism diagnosis for myself but I'm one of those people who struggles maintaining relationships. I get burnt out easily, I shut down, I feel overwhelmed, and it can happen mid conversation. I like friends I don't have to hang out with every day. I…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/24 03:10 PM
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You're**
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/24 01:15 AM
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Oh, don't worry, I know you don't get it. Lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/24 01:10 AM
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So you're demonstrating the wage gap while simultaneously denying its existence. Lmfao
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/24 01:05 AM
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Okay, riddle me this: would you hire a female worker even if they were over qualified for the position?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/24 12:54 AM
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I have no notes. Bravo! Couldn't have handcrafted a better example of what women face in construction myself. 🤭
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/24 12:00 AM
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Lol, and this is why most women don't go into construction. You're literally demonstrating it perfectly. Thank you for proving my point!
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/24 11:48 PM
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Yeah, because I was being paid 3 dollars less an hour to supervise guys who did half the work I did. One didn't even have his license and refused to do work regularly because he felt it wasn't his job scope. One was a literal crackhead. When you constantly have yo prove yourself for less pay, half the recognition from guys who think exactly like you do, it can be a huge barrier for women to enter into the industry. Not to mention, I had to personally know the guy who hired me and he was a raging…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/24 11:29 PM
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Because I've been promoted since I was a general labourer and a framer? Now I manage the warranty department for a larger local developer and I recently began training to become a certified NCSO. I have a business degree and I've been in construction for almost 15 years now. If I was not good at my job, yes, I would still be a general laborer. sober woman couldn’t do that job because she’s physically weaker than even a drunk man My husband worked alongside a man who had his entire leg amputated …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/24 10:26 PM
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Haha, sure bud. How many roofer or framers do you know are doing advanced physics with all their teeth in their mouth? You think it takes some sort of genius or some dude who works out 24/7? Most of these guys are functioning alcoholics or crackheads. We literally had to kick a scaffolder off site for drinking mid-day on a Wednesday on a packed site. You think a sober woman couldn't easily do that job? Bud, this tells me YOU'VE never worked construction lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/24 08:57 PM
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Haha, I'm gonna have to give my paycheques back. Is there a formal process for declaring my career as imaginary? I wouldn't want to upset another man by proposing women have functioning limbs and a brain capable of swinging a hammer and shoveling some dirt.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/24 08:43 PM
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Again, this will be big news to a lot of people, including the construction company I work for. Does this mean I have to decline my promotion as NCSO?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/24 08:06 PM
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Oh, I'll let my mortgage company know my paychecks have been ✨️imaginary✨️ for the last decade. They're going to be as shocked as my employer is. Do you think my company knows that they're not actually doing anything construction-related despite winning awards for their green building incentives? My gosh, we are simply going to have rewrite our whole safety program because nobody knew we weren't actually building anything. Oof, this is gonna disappoint so many people. Thanks for letting me know!…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/24 07:32 PM
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Most people do already do this. Only assholes make relationships some sort of power play.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/24 01:04 PM
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Hey, ask me about why I almost left construction when I first started! I'm sure you'll never guess why!
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/24 01:04 PM
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I literally work in construction, bud lmao. I do that. I fix things. I'm the one literally sourcing car parts and swinging hammers. I am building my own home with my husband CURRENTLY. And I know plenty of women in the trades at my JOB. You think a woman can't do what your average crackhead can't? Construction isn't hard lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/24 01:03 PM
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I support the database. Could help identify rapists, criminals and child support delinquents. Also we can enforce mandatory vasectomies for men who tried to procreate beyond the children they can physically support. If we have mandatory DNA tests then I want the same level of body autonomy women enjoy.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/24 11:40 PM
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As a woman, I don't need a man for anything in my life and I enjoy my independence. I watched my mother be financially and emotionally abused and I had the experience of my father treating his daughters the same way. I have a degree. I own a home. I have a career. I have friends, ambition, love, the whole she-bang. Why would I create more work in my life managing another man's emotional labour? Having to treat another grown adult as some sort of child incapable of doing their own laundry, food, …
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/24 09:30 PM
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Honestly, as a feminist, I have no problem with people who can communicate when their values or morals don't align, and they will be incompatible long term. I've also turned down men who had histories of being promiscuous. It didn't align with my values and I declined a relationship accordingly. You're allowed to say "no" to a relationship for any reason. The only judgement I have is whether you're gonna be an asshole or not about how you decline that relationship. I will judge a woman the same …
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/24 07:46 PM
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I mean, by all means, let me know when the bad stops moving and I'll meet it.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/24 08:04 PM
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OK hun.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/24 01:21 PM
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You know yo have proof it has to be documented right? Am I supposed to go spend hours hounding down private court documents to meet your individual burdens of proof that women also get berated? Am I supposed to be recording it in person and sending it to you personally when it happens? I have enough individual experience combined with literal social media posts/news articles/court cases/etc. to prove the most painfully obvious thing. Like, the pettiness is unbearable with the red pill men. Buddy…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/24 01:21 PM
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"How dare you show the proof that I asked for!"
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/24 10:08 PM
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Racist man berates a woman Another random man berating a woman man berates woman again Another very common occurrence of domestic abuse weirdly misogyny goes hand in hand with racism
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/24 07:15 PM
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Again, bud, you guys try really hard but none of that Jason anything to do with the subject matter: nobody thinks it's acceptable to berate anyone and men aren't special victims for experiencing that. Sorry, bud.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/24 07:12 PM
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I agree. I brought up that society thinks berating anyone is socially unacceptable. It's weird that anyone would make it a competition.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/24 03:04 PM
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Cool, let me know when you have more than "I feel" statements to support your opinion.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/24 03:03 PM
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How is the statement "it's socially acceptable to berate men and not women" accurate? I have asked for proof, examples, I've supplied my own and all I have is "well, hierarchies". But men (especially old white men) are at the top of most of those hierarchies. Wouldn't that mean they are the largest demographic going aroubd berating people?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/24 02:45 PM
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No m, I'm trying to see your perspective. What exactly would cause you to think women are somehow magically exempt from being berated? Again, I've given multiple easily googible examples and all the data implies men are more likely to berate everyone else in general (including children and other men) so what exactly is the problem and how do you fix it?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/24 02:42 PM
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I'm answering that question. Nobody said it wasn't socially acceptable to berate men except men. So why do you think women don't experience being berated? Or even, whether you think it's socially acceptable or not, does that concept even impact the rates of beratement considering all the other factors like women more likely to experience DV in private and that includes verbal abuse which includes being berated. Like, it's just such a weird thing to claim. "Men get berated more than women and it'…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/24 02:21 PM
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So you're presuming you know women' experiences despite literal documented court cases, media representation, documented proof that women are regularly berated in both professional and personal settings that they don't ever experience it on the level men do? I don't know the statistics on that one but I do know men talk more than women on average. They hold higher positions of power on average. They have a long history of documented mistreatment and abuse of women (I'm talking centuries) and you…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/24 02:17 PM
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In society it currently is socially acceptable to berate men . It certainly isn’t socially acceptable to berate women. This is the point. It's not socially acceptable to berate anyone. It doesn't stop it from happening. Women aren't exempt from this.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/24 02:01 PM
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I'm just saying, why wouldn't men berate women (and vice versa) just because the majority of people think it's socially unacceptable? We know people do socially unacceptable things all the time. Why would women's experience be any different?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/24 01:51 PM
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This whole comment thread proves my point. Lots of "I feel" statements but not a lot of proof. You can literally just Google "man berates woman" and end the debate immediately but every man here would rather argue with their emotions instead. Can't argue your feelings, bro.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/24 01:41 PM
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Again, nobody thinks racism is acceptable except racists. Do you feel like making racism socially unacceptable as completely blocked all aspects of racism and its impact from your life? Do you feel like making sexism socially acceptable has done the same for women? This isn't a hard question. Did making something illegal prevent that crime for happening or does it simply act as a deterrent? Also, berating someone isn't even illegal so do you feel like people who might feel women deserve vitriol …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/24 01:40 PM
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That's one example of many. Again, men are truly the more emotional creatures if this is what you want to pretend the argument is.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/24 01:31 PM
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this whole conversation was literally just about berating women being socially unacceptable. So we both agree then that you don't know what women experience, including how often or when we are berated or if anyone thinks it's socially acceptable. Because you don't have that personal experience. But guess what? Making the racist acts and sexist acts illegal Made them... Socially unacceptable. So therefore you should abandon all social movements where racism is being fought on systemic and individ…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/24 01:29 PM
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Nobody said either was socially acceptable. I'm saying both are current issues we have to deal with in society. Your experience is not the same as somebody else's and that applies my experience with racism and your experience with sexism. I'll never know what it is like to be a minority and you'll never know what it is like to be a woman. Neither struggles are any less valid. Especially if you consider the experiences of minority women. Additionally, you brought up racism. Although, I do wonder …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/24 01:17 PM
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My cousin is half black and Canadian and she's been assaulted for being black and followed around stores before. My half black friend had a spider crawl in her ear when she was sleeping at like 19 and when she went to the doctor they thought she was a crackhead and tried to refuse her care. She had to have her white boyfriend advocate for her to get them to get it out. I am happy you've never had to experience it but racism still exists. And just because you haven't noticed it or personally expe…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/24 01:07 PM
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Fresh and Fit podcast are entirely about men berating women for their life choices. Andrew Tate did that. That conservative far right radio host got caught on their private security camera berating hisbheavvily pregnant wife who was expecting twins for not doing chores to his standards. There's been cases of Albertan judges berating rape victims in court documents for not trying to close their legs hard enough during the act, in fact, there's a lot of court cases where judges berate women (wheth…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/24 01:02 PM
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Society has berated women before. They used to literally drag women through the streets in headgear to specifically stop them gossiping. There's been Alberta judges who berated rape victims for not closing their legs hard enough to prevent a rape. Just look at any woman on any Fresh and Fit podcast or TikTok podcast bro. They are constantly yelling at and trying to humiliate women in public social settings. There's private videos of the far right conservative dude who just went through a divorce…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/24 12:56 PM
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I'm sorry, I've been berated by parents, coworkers, bosses, friends, family, partners, etc. Most of them being men tbh if I am being honest (although women are just a capable, obviously). It's really weird that you don't know that this is a communal human experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/24 12:25 PM
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As a woman, I've been berated quite a bit throughout my life. Have you ever talked to a woman before?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/24 12:00 PM
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Yeah, weirdly enough I thought people just had both in all the time or both out. Bodies are weird, yo.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/24 01:28 AM
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You know how some people have innies or outties for belly buttons? Well, that's one of my nipples. It pops out for some coaxing but it's hereditary. My twin and little have the same feature and so does my mom. It's hardly noticeable overall but I'd its cold only one nipple will show up. Breastfeeding was a bit harder too.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/24 12:21 AM
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My coworker and his wife just chose a whole new last name when they got married. Everyone is different.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/24 11:25 PM
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I did it by the first or second date. Why would I waste my time or theirs if I knew we were fundamentally incompatible on date 2?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/24 11:23 PM
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Agreed! I don't actually hear a lot of big dick talk amongst my female friends but I am sure it happens. You are more than your body parts though! And I know plenty of men with smaller penises who have very happy and loving relationships! As long as you both are kind, respectful, clean, consensual and communicating then you have nothing to worry about! Assholes will still exist but that will happen in any part of life. It sucks when you meet one in bed though lol
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/24 10:10 PM
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Legit, so many guys get in their own heads about intimacy and their penis. The only bad penis (or vagina) is one that shows up uninvited. Everybody has a body. I have an inverted nipple for example. My husband has almost no bum. We both have stretch marks nmand scars and insecurities. And we still can't keep our hands off each other. There is nothing wrong with your penis size. There just might be something wrong with compatibility but just because you don't compliment someone (or their body par…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/24 09:31 PM
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I'm sorry, what? I'm saying there is no giga-chad sex God who can make every woman on the planet cum on command by simply inserting his penis into their vagina. The idea that one type of penis will satisfy every women regardless of their physical limitations is absurd. What are you going on about?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/24 08:53 PM
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Sure. They would be a minority though. Not to mention, it's not like a lot of men are receptive to feedback in this department so some of that might be assumed.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/24 06:25 PM
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Good dick usually goes hand in hand with: Communication- like not surprising your partner with things they didn't consent to initially (ie, bdsm, piss play, diaper fetish, etc.) Actual foreplay- if you're just jackhammering away then it doesn't matter how perfect your dick is, it will not satisfy anyone. Cleanliness- I have gotten UTIs before because a dude didn't know to wash his dick apparently. Being physically compatible. All bodies are different. My husband is average size and if it were an…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/24 05:12 PM
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As a feminist, I advocate for harsher punishments when it comes to women pedophiles. When we talk about the inequality in the legal system, it includes leniency when it comes to any bias, man or woman. I think there is this misconception that feminism only wants to punish men by making it equitable for women. We want all the rights, privileges AND responsibilities as men. That includes accountability for being a fucking pedophile (and for all crimes they are found guilty of). We are aware access…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/24 02:02 PM
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Then it should be easy to quote her. Go for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/24 02:54 PM
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She didn't. I don't see anything where women are saying all late blooming virgins need to be punished. Can you find the comment?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/24 12:42 PM
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We don't call all inexperienced virgins red flags, hun. The fact you're a virgin has nothing to do with you being problematic. The two aren't equated. Your virginity didn't make you join an online toxic, borderline terrorist group. It's the men who weaponize their insecurities as being someone else's problem to solve that are the red flags. I know plenty of male virgins in their mid-30's who found loving, lasting relationships no problem and nobody judged them for being late bloomers. Maybe it's…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/24 04:48 PM
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I call out radical/extremists no matter if I support the social movement or not. As a feminist, it is important to me to make sure people know I don't identify with toxic individuals and I vocally denounce toxic people who identify with feminism no matter how popular they might be. Feminism isn't about uplifting women regardless of their crimes or problematic stances. It's just giving women the same opportunities as men, including to be held accountable in a way where we can recognize their poor…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/24 04:44 PM
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Quite literally not the same thing. You're describing feminist's doing a prescription (what you should do), redpill is a description (what is going on). I think you're confused. They're both personal philosophies and social movements. They have both qualities. They're just focused on different social issues. One isn't inherently worse than the other in theory. There's extremist in every social movement as well. Ultimately, they're just personal belief systems that you identify with or you don't.…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/24 04:39 PM
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The same way everyone else deals with their unhappiness: therapy.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/24 04:09 PM
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All I can suggest is therapy, bud. I can see why the relationships aren't lasting judging from the way you're communicating currently. Good luck.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/24 04:48 PM
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I've seen a small dick before. I didn't care. I did care when the small dicked man sexually assaulted me though. You are responsible for how you treat others. Do you treat others well and are you communicating your vulnerabilities in a productive way?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/24 04:35 PM
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Buddy, it's not the small dick. I know plenty of below average dicked men who have happy, healthy relationships. It's the small dick energy that repels women. It's the vibe that you have to he angry to compensate about your insecurities. I'm not gonna say I know your specific struggle but I've struggled with body image my entire life. It took a lot of therapy and learning to manage my emotions and being in charge of my own happiness to actually find satisfaction in your life. And I have been wit…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/24 01:34 PM
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Again, bud, if you already think women are trash then why do you even care if we don't even want to date you anyways? Why do we owe you free emotional labour and a relationship? We can't fix your unhappiness. That is a you problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/24 12:16 PM
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This is why women choose to divorce. Because to9 many men will blame their partners for being unhappy with the relationship rather than working with their partner to fix it. You already think women are trash and don't think their happiness should even be factored into a relationship. Of course i would divorce someone like you if you ever communicated those beliefs to me through actions or words. I am failing to see how that is women's fault though.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/24 08:58 PM
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Incompatibility doesn't mean men are automatically wrong. But a lot of men will benefit from their partners living with a tolerable level of permanent unhappiness rather than meet their partners needs. I know plenty of men who complained when their partner broke up with them that they never saw it coming despite everyone else seeing it from a mile away. Because men often benefit more from having a woman cater to their domestic needs and do their emotional labour for them. If that wasn't the case…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/24 08:31 PM
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So women are obligated to stick in toxic/incompatible relationships as long as their partner makes the bare minimum of efforts sexually? Sorry, bud, but a good sex life doesn't excuse incompatibility long term. Also, as someone who grew up with conservative values and isn't promiscuous, I still almost divorced my husband even after he decided foreplay was acceptable in our sex life. Turns out a good orgasm doesn't make up for a failing relationship. My husband had to do real work and hold himsel…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/24 08:23 PM
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You can't answer the question and I don't understand why. Isn't because it's ridiculous to assume you can force somebody into a relationship they know they would be deeply unhappy with? Or is it because you need to recognize women aren't hive minds who operate solely for financial gain? Or is it because answering that question would mean you're the problem and not your physical appearance?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/24 08:11 PM
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Again, are women obligated to have sex with you despite having no compatibility or sexual attraction towards you?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/24 08:05 PM
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Again, bud, nobody is saying anybody isn't attracted to short men except you. I'm asking how women are supposed to overcome their personal sexual attraction and incompatibility in order to date men they aren't attracted to and will be deeply unhappy with long term. Nobody cares if a guy is 4 feet tall or 6'2. Everyone has their own insecurities about their bodies. Men aren't special.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/24 07:57 PM
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You need therapy, bud. Women aren't charities. We aren't obligated to make you feel better about yourself and your failures just because you won't put in that work yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/24 07:49 PM
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Okay, that would be a no then? Thank you for confirming that you do understand that you can't force attraction and women aren't obligated to have sex with you and make you feel special just because you feel entitled to that attention. I agree!
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/24 07:35 PM
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Again, are men also obligated to deny their personal sexual preferences in order to pity date people they have no sexual attraction or long term compatibility with? This is a yes or no question.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/24 07:25 PM
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I'm also 5'7 (and was slightly taller than my ex). I did not lose attraction. Again, if you expect women to sacrifice their sexual attraction in order to pity date people they don't want as partners, are you also expecting men to do the same?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/24 07:17 PM
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I dated a guy who was 5'7 and it wasn't a problem. The only reason why we broke up was long distance and religious beliefs. If you aren't willing to make the same sacrifices when it comes to sexual attraction then why are you expecting women to?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/24 07:12 PM
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So you'd date a fat chick? Or someone who you aren't personal attracted to in any capacity?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/24 07:09 PM
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No, I had fun because I threatened to leave and find someone else if he didn't prioritize my pleasure. Virginity doesn't mean a better libido. I know plenty of people who saved their virginity for marriage and got divorced because they were essentially a sexual and it took actually having sex to discover that. This idea that non-promiscuous women will automatically be satisfied by subpar efforts from their husband's is very funny though.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/24 07:01 PM
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In most of my female friend's experiences (as well as my own) men were introduced and had to come with a high recommendation not only from his piers but also from other woman. I also didn't look for anyone who was promiscuous or whose values didn't mirror my own. If you want a woman with a low body count and whose "Hugh value" then you also have to be high value and a low body count and be upfront, honest and have personal accountability and integrity. If you don't have people who can vouch for …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/24 06:14 PM
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I have 2 for a body count (the second one being my husband whom ive been with for 14 years) and i wouldn't touch the vast majority or men, especially anyone who identifies as a red piller/incel/etc. If he was terrible in bed and not open for improvement then I would have dumped him. Those high values women you idolize? They don't want men like you to begin with.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/24 06:10 PM
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Yeah, men should be trying harder to satisfy their partners. I almost left my husband because he had no interest in making sex pleasurable for my initially during the dating phase. He is the second partner I've ever had. Why would I want a lifetime of that kind of disappointment? Sex is fun. I want a partner who makes it fun. That's not a big ask.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/24 06:08 PM
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Yeah, to be fair, autistic and people with good pattern recognition usually are far less likely to fall prey to marketing/propaganda/cults/etc. I say that as someone who briefly grew up inside a cult at one point.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/24 07:52 PM
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Andrew Tate kidnapped women and threatened to kill them. He probably just watched too much Disney though.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/24 01:02 PM
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Fair.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/24 10:40 PM
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Then why not change YOUR behaviour to suit THEIR preferences if incompatibility is not a deal breaker for you?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/24 10:37 PM
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I thought consent is supposed to be ongoing and should be able to be revoked at any time or does that just apply to situations where the woman is not at a disadventage? I mean, a woman can revoke her consent to gestating a fetus, but men don't deserve the ability to revoke their consent? Sounds rather sexist! What men desire is to have the same opportunities as women. So women can now claim rape if they also regret consequences of sex? I'm all for treating women as people who are competent, resp…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/24 08:18 PM
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Again, yes, women can get pregnant. Yes, men need to ejaculate for that to happen. No, men aren't at a disadvantage because they choose poorly with whomever they're choosing to have sex with. Men have full body autonomy but once their sperm leaves said body and enters into another, they have consented to the consequences of distributing their sperm accordingly. Unless men are children and shouldn't be given the choice of being fully engaged members of society and need to be treated as such.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/24 07:55 PM
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Yes, both parties are given outs based on their physical capabilities and personal limitations. You are correct.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/24 07:03 PM
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Again, men do get to decide if they want to procreate or not. Nobody is stopping men from getting vasectomies, wearing condoms, or choosing abstinence. If you want to control women's bodies then you need to also start controlling men's. Just because women have the physical ability to host a pregnancy does not mean men have any less responsibility for where they choose to ejaculate. This idea that men are not entitled to be responsible for the consequences of their own actions is very funny thoug…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/24 06:48 PM
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So we can force men into mandatory vasectomies then?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/24 06:32 PM
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Women also have that choice. We can choose not to have sex, vet our partners better and to be responsible for our reproductive health. Again, we BOTH have that choice. And if you're having sex, you're consenting to the consequences of having sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/24 05:39 PM
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Sorry, I replied to the wrong comment!
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/24 02:59 PM
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He does have that choice. He can choose to not have aex, get a vasectomy and choose better partners He has vetted more thoroughly. Men do have choices. Just because women get to decide if they physically have to suffer 9 months more of consequences or not doesn't mean men aren't also getting a choice.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/24 02:53 PM
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As a fat woman, I think that's fine. I'm not attracted to everyone. And not everyone is attracted to me. As long as you're polite about it and make sure you're kind about the rejection then I don't see a problem with having personal preferences when it comes to partners.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/24 03:16 AM
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I gave my husband space when his mother died. He asked for it and I didn't want to pressure him into sex either during his most vulnerable time. I told him I was there if he wanted to talk and I looked after the household and carried on all the financial and social responsibilities while he grieved. I was too tired for sex during that timenperiod as well because I was also grieving and having to pick up his slack (understandably so) while he processed this trauma. I'm not saying your ex had good…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/24 02:49 PM
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No, I agree. I wouldn't step foot in your house knowing how little you value cleanliness. This is why I never eat food from people's homes unless I can vet their living conditions first. I know people who cut chicken on the counters and didn't wipe anything down afterwards.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/23 06:11 PM
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Then masturbate and do the dishes? Combine the two activities? Nobody is telling you not to orgasm ever.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/23 06:08 PM
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You are right. I don't love men I have to parent. It is pretty easy to fall out of love with partners who act like spoiled, entitled children and throw tantrums when you ask them to function as an adult within the relationship. I couldn't agree more that it is so easy to fall out of love with someone who doesn't even want to do the bare minimum to keep their partner happy. And I guess lazy, incompetent men get the short end of the stick as a default on that one.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/23 06:07 PM
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Oof, buddy. Do you not wash your curtains? Like, even a wipe down is good every once in a while. I don't want to be inhaling dust every time I open a window. Gross af.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/23 06:02 PM
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Is that why so man men commit mass murder? It's the healthy alternative to therapy?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/23 06:00 PM
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My husband has a lot of faults but pulling how weight when it comes to domestic duties and childcare is not one of them. The sex flows in abundance. There is nothing sexier than a competent, responsible partner who doesn't dismiss my needs while I also prioritize his. Life is about compromise. I'm not going to love everything he does or says and he isn't going to love everything I do or say. But we equally compromise and it goes so smoothly when we have that dynamic. The worst people I know are …
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/23 05:59 PM
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People have been charged for neglect leading to child endangerment/death and it is a form of abuse. Not to mention, it depreciates the home over time and it can lead to serious health issues like black mold. So I mean, yeah, people do die from living in filth. It's not abusive to turn down someone for sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/23 05:51 PM
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As a woman, I am neuro divergent and I have no problem with neutodivercity. In fact, I prefer it because I understand it better. But if you use it to justify being an asshole, then no.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/23 06:21 PM
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Yes, people have opinions on things, including restaurants and people and places and things and decisions, etc. That is life. I don't want to date 20 girls just for the sake of having girls who can "review" me to other girls. I want one girl. Do my reviewers have to be friends?Well then, eat what you're given and don't complain if you don't like it then. Then eat what you're given and don't complain. You don't know what you like until you try it yourself. If you want to settle for the bare minim…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/23 06:44 PM
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How do you eat? How do you choose which meals to have or restaurants to go to? Do you go back to people and places who give you violent diarrhea? People are all different.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/23 06:30 PM
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Some food is moldy, some food is poison, some food is too salty or spicy or overcooked or you're allergic. Some food is just not to your taste. Some food looks beautiful but is bad for you or will make you unhealthy. Some food is only good in small quantities. Some food has bad presentation but tastes delicious and sometimes a different dish looks amazing but is made with expired food or is just bland in flavor. Everyone has different tastes. I like spicy dishes that test me and burn my face off…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/23 05:45 PM
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Oh, I'm aware. But again, that reflects more on the people and the company they keep more than anything. I'd be a very shitty person if I was friends with a known predator. I cut my own father in law off for similar reasons.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/23 03:23 PM
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So if these men know then why are they still friends? I know plenty of men I'd trust alone in a room with my 15 year old daughter.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/23 02:36 PM
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Why are you friends with a predator in the first place? Doesn't that decision reflect more on you than your 25 year old daughter?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/23 12:56 PM
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I was a late bloomer virgin and my mental health was a dumpster fire the entire time.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/23 12:55 PM
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Buddy, no. Nobody is showing up with black eyes and broken bones every Monday morning. Also, there's no car park. It's a construction site in a residential neighborhood in a very well populated area with attentive neighbours who look for excuses to call the company to report employees because they hate the builders. If they were fistfighting anywhere near work I'd hear about it as the Safety Officer, let alone because I literally hang out with the construction teams putside of work regularly. No…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/23 04:16 AM
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Dude doesn't know how to read data.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/23 04:09 AM
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Do you often fistfight your work problems? Do you get advanced in the workplace fighting your boss? I'm confused how im supposed to accomplish framing in a bathtub by beating up my coworkers. Are your coworkers physically attacking you on a regular basis? Because WorkSafe would have some questions if everyone was beating each other up every week on a job site.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/23 04:08 AM
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Yeah, I was trained that men treating me like suit was normal. My dad did the exact same thing and encouraged my brother to treat us the same way. I had exbfs who were similar and male friends all seemed to fit the same abusive patterns. When my husband escalated, I was told I was always the problem so I just assumed I was just always the problem. Turns out, no, he knows he's abusive and he just enjoyed the perks and had no incentive to change because everyone supported the abuse. He's a Saint t…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/23 06:28 PM
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You think women aren't? Seriously, bud. Women's issues don't just solve themselves when we bat our eyelashes at them. We put the work in. Why are men not capable of doing the same? You think multiple women haven't died in pursuit of equality and women's rights? Like, buddy, mental health is an uphill battle for everyone. It's up to us to tackle it and take it seriously.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/23 06:23 PM
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I'm in an abusive relationship. I am taking responsibility and leaving. Do you have sympathy for me or feel the need to treat me more mildly because of my personal experience?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/23 05:54 PM
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Yuuuup, and it normalized physical abuse in my relationship. I didn't think there was anything wrong with my husband punching holes in walls or smacking pets. Took a lot of therapy to recognize abuse after my childhood.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/23 05:52 PM
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You know, just because many bad things that happen to men in society are caused by other men doesn’t automatically mean that men are somehow worse people overall. The earlier guy never blamed women, he blamed society which involves men AND women. And women are working hard on making a support system for themselves and to change society to value mental health, regardless of gender. Very rarely do I see men supporting other men and/or taking the initiative to get on top of their mental health prob…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/23 05:51 PM
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This is not an inherent or innate behaviour in men overall, it's a consequence of what is being done TO men by society. Women would behave just as terribly (though probably would express it differently) if they were emotionally neglected and emotionally illiterate as well, it's just that society cares far more about women's feelings and regularly tells men that nobody gives a fuck about theirs. Women usually experience worse (as we work with a lot of women on these same jobbsites) but I've never…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/23 05:11 PM
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Right, men are too stupid to control themselves. All their bad behaviours are women's fault. Women just can't take accountability for the damage they make men cause. Poor men. They're just dumb dumb idiots who control the economy and represent the majority of every political party. But they're so misrepresented. And it's all women's faults. Yeah, okay, bud.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/23 04:49 PM
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A lot of personal bias on display here. Lmao fertility rates are a good indicator men are being rewarded for providing lmao what.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/23 04:46 PM
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Found the libertarian. Okay, then, why don't all men want women to have the same access in the workplace if it's such a miserable place? Also, the fertility thing is a weird way to judge a successful economy considering countries with statistically high fertility rates are linked with much lower standards of living. But let's skip over the fact those men are miserable and can't afford to be otherwise because of dependants and lack of opportunity. Buddy, again. You're trying really hard to say no…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/23 04:04 PM
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So, they were boomers? The people in most executive positions to date? Could you imagine having that lack of access for half your life and still expecting to be on an equal playing field with someone else? Also, that'd one factor of the sexism the women faced in the 1970s. Most educational programs excluded women. There's also men who literally shot up universities targeting women specifically when women did get access. That happened in Canada specifically as well. It's like, you get the idea al…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/23 03:32 PM
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Honestly, some are. Some are just flat out mysoginists and some are just guys who were never taught emotional intelligence. Most are right wing leaning, unsurprisingly enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/23 03:29 PM
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buddy, this isn't hard.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/23 03:28 PM
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Yeah, again, let's look at context, hun. Women couldn't even own credit cards 4 decades ago. Women didn't have the right to abortion 6 decades ago. Like, you keep proving me right.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/23 03:27 PM
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My guy, you're trying so hard to say nothing. The data is there. It's your own sourcing. It's okay to be wrong sometimes. Also, this is why we have the data. Because most men will argue they're not wrong until they're blue in the face. Of course we can't trust your self reporting. This is example A.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/23 03:19 PM
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You did. And then you misread it. The whole point of the second post is EVEN IN EGALITARIAN MARRIAGES women are still doing more and getting less leisure time. Obviously that division is going to be greater in a marriage without intentional equality. I am not sure what you're missing here but it's pretty baffling that you haven't realized this basic concept yet. I feel like you're still in high-school judging from this interaction.have you not covered fundamental concepts about how studies are c…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/23 02:59 PM
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So you're saying if they're not egalitarian the division is worse? Yeah, we know. Lol
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/23 02:51 PM
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I'm smarter than him and have accomplished more things so he should just be grateful, obviously. I have a business degree and run a construction division at work while he's just a carpentry supervisor with no education past OFA level 2 which expired every 5 years anyways. We wouldn't have even been where we are today without my life savings and efforts. Of course he's happy to coast on my coattails while I basically fund our lifestyle and he knows the alternative is being responsible for himself…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/23 02:51 PM
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It comes from the same website you offered as your initial source. Maybe take this time to self reflect on why you don't trust the sourcing of your own research unless it aligns with your own personal beliefs.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/23 02:43 PM
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He hates it but his happiness is irrelevant.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/23 02:42 PM
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This is your own sourcing saying exactly the opposite of what you initially claimed. I'm confused why you're upset.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/23 02:41 PM
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It will. Thank you!
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/23 02:40 PM
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I mean. I know plenty of intersex people who aren't bragging about peeing out of their body parts but I guess it's less impressive if you're not a straight, hetero male.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/23 02:39 PM
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this was a linked article. Weird how it supports exactly what I said.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/23 02:37 PM
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Okay, when you have more data than a 2011 screen shot of a screen shot to back you up then we can talk. Good idea.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/23 02:31 PM
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I treat him like a pet. He's my little idiot.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/23 02:30 PM
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I'm fine. I'm making an exit plan currently.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/23 02:25 PM
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I'm Canadian. Also, that data isn't accurate. Women spend more money and time on household maintenance and child care. Men are doing more than they have historically ever done but it's still not anywhere near what women do. Also, they self report doing more while women are more humble about their contributions. I get why that data would be confusing to you though. Also, that data ends in 2011. We are in 2024 in less than 2 weeks so I would call it severely outdated.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/23 02:23 PM
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I have a she-wee so I've done that as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/23 02:22 PM
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At first it was he was funny, he was kind, and he was selfless. As I get to know him more, I realize he is none of thise things. So none.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/23 02:04 PM
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I treat my husband the same way. He acts like a child so I treat him like one. It's nice because I get the financial benefit and he gets the benefit of being treated like a child. He loves it.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/23 02:03 PM
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As someone who works in construction, I see the exact opposite every day. I watch men storm around job sites, throw tantrums, refuse to stop site wide banned behaviour and like throw pity parties when they don't get what they want. And they'll easily do it to other men in a heartbeat. The absolute tantrums I've watched men perform AT WORK has been mindblowing. I've seen guys destroy company property, send death threats, one guy sent a bullet to a former Strata member and got arrested. One guy re…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/23 02:00 PM
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This right here! This whole comment section is literally just men trying to not take responsibility for anything wrong in their lives. My husband literally blames me when his charging cord broke because I used it once 4 weeks prior after 3 years of his daily use. He blames me if the cat meows too loud. He blames me if anything goes wrong in our lives whatsoever. And I grew up with a dad who did the same. If he had a bad day at work he'd come home and blame his kids and his wife for his shitty mo…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/23 01:52 PM
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Most women I know are fully employed. Almost all the stay at home parents I know made the decision together based off of childcare costs. Also, my husband is the one constantly dropping the ball on home maintenance and cleaning, basic shit. I also work full time and do majority childcare and cleaning. Men aren't doing anything women aren't already doing plus more. Most men I know can't keep up with the women around them.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/23 01:50 PM
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I work in construction and in male dominated fields my entire life. There has been NOTHING a man has done that I haven't also seen a woman do.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/23 01:47 PM
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So youre saying women are capable adults and don't need to be babied and talked down to? Wow, what a novel concept! I couldn't agree more!
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/23 01:46 PM
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So women are kinda like...adults?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/23 01:46 PM
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I'm raising a 4 year old everyone compliments on without hitting her. It's ridiculously easy. You just have to be an involved parent and make educated choices including educating your child on mistakes they make and taking time to teach them property manners as well as just simply spending quality time with them. I genuinely don't understand why my parents spanked me growing up.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/23 01:45 PM
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I watched a lot of millennials who grew up with physical punishment turn into abusive spouses. But I'm sure having a half assed parent has paid off for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/23 01:43 PM
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Honestly, my husband's bully used to bully some of his friends into communal circle jerks on high-school. Dude ended up playing professional hockey in Russia and is married with kids now. I had an ex who used to laugh about crossing streams with their male friends while passing outdoors. I know plenty of guys who've commented unprovoked about another man's penis. Your individual experience is just that, babe. It's your experience. Men are just as capable of being shitty gossip queens as women. A…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/23 01:36 PM
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Honestly, my husband's bully used to bully some of his friends into communal circle jerks on high-school. Dude ended up playing professional hockey in Russia and is married with kids now. I had an ex who used to laugh about crossing streams with their male friends while passing outdoors. I know plenty of guys who've commented unprovoked about another man's penis. You're individual experience is just that, babe. It's your experience. Men are just as capable of being shitty gossip queens as women.…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/23 01:36 PM
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So men don't have long rows of urinals in their bathrooms? Locker rooms are purely for the homosexuality? Straight men never go to the gym or pool? Gym class was only for the guys in high-school? Straight men never attend nude beaches or are artists? You've never had a male bully in your life? Like, babe, this isn't hard. Men aren't perfect creatures innocent in all the evils in humanity until females corrupt them. We are all individuals with complex needs and wants and some of us are bullies. T…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/23 01:14 PM
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The things I've heard men judge each other for has blown me away. What tools that own, what cars or jobs they have, where they live, what they wear, who they married, their weight, etc. Being a gossip queen isn't exclusively a female trait, hun. People like to talk and low self esteem isn't directly affiliated with owning a pair of ovaries.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/23 01:03 PM
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I've heard my husband talk about other men's ducks before. Same with exbfs. I've had one girlfriend describe on ex-mutual friends dick to me and thats about it. But, again, our individual experiences are all anecdotal evidence anyways.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/23 01:02 PM
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Oh right. Because women only know how to cook, do laundry and organize communal childcare because of pregnancy. Duh!
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/23 12:26 AM
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It literally is concrete evidence. Again, we can point to several points throughout history of women taking over men's roles effortlessly. The same cannot be same for men. Again, this is easily proven by simply opening a history book. Try it!
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/23 11:54 PM
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Sorry. I am not saying women only do this during a wars or strikes. I'm saying we have seen concrete evidence of women managing to run the entire economy unassisted but men will shut down the economy if women stopped doing everything. As in, we watched itnhappen in real time with real consequences repeatedly throughout history. That's how we can confirm men are less required than women for economies and society to function and function well. Especially on a country-wide or international platform…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/23 11:47 PM
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My husband wanted to be a househusband/SAHP. I hated it when I did it as a woman. It's an individual choice.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/23 07:19 PM
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I've work in a male dominated field my wntire working career. Men absolutely are not better at taking criticism. I've seen men literally start entire fist fights on site over a perceived slight or criticism. I dare you to go to a mechanic or a framer or someone blue collar, male dominated industry and critique their work.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/23 03:29 AM
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You're entitled to treat your partner any way you'd like to. I am not entitled to stay with a partner who would treat me as you described. Neither are wrong but I know personally, I wouldn't want to be with someone who can't communicate their needs or be engaged in family planning from day 1. If you told me you expect a paternity test from day 1, then we might have a chance. If you want to withhold that information until I am emotionally vulnerable dn dealing with pregnancy hormones, then be pre…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/23 08:50 PM
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Fair enough! My apologies!
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/23 08:05 PM
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It isn't. We literally can defer to any war and women easily filled the gap. The few times women went on strike and the economy came to a halt. The data is there.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/23 08:02 PM
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No? I asked my husband out to be fair but as Ling as you're respectful and can appreciate if I decline without becoming abusive then I will usually buy you a drink or even wingman you for a friend or other women. If you're genuinely a good person who can handle rejection, it pays off long term.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/23 04:40 PM
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I expect full std panels before any sexual relations whether we're monogamous or not. I'll also supply my own as well. I am very upfront that I need that reassurance. If you want a paternity test for any potential children then you should say that before beginning sexual relations with anyone. If I was 6 months into a relationship and asked you to get an STD test (without due cause for whatever reason) and surpris, that's a boundary for me or we stop having sex, then I get the upset. Same with p…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/23 04:08 PM
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Wait until you hear about women in the workforce. There's even been female presidents and politicians occomplishing things. Women went on strike and shut whole countries down. Men went to war and women filled the gap and didn't want to leave their work positions when the men returned. Turns out, men are the complainers who don't contribute much to society.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/23 01:55 PM
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If you don't like the study pr agree with its findings then feel free to provide your own. However, throwing a tantrum over the fact you didn't understand the data as it was presented reflects very poorly.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/23 01:53 PM
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We still have struggles including generational trauma to get over but this idea of subservience is ridiculous. Also, I don't buy designer anything. I will buy brands that have a good reputation for being worth the price (ie Blundstone or Birkenstock boots or a Toyota) but most women don't want diamonds and Gucci. We just want to be an equal partner And everyone is different. Some people (men or women) like to be subservient in a relationship. Plenty of CEOs or people in high power positions enjo…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/23 03:23 PM
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I bought my last wallet for $15 at winners Our rule in pur household is: anything that is a communal cost over 150 needs to be discussed. Additionally, we have our own personal money to buy things when we need them. If my husband wants to pay $6k for a car to work on for a hobby (which he did 2 months ago) he used his personal funds to do it. He still discussed it with me and I said "it's your money". I wanted a new wallet and some earrings and I splurged and spent $100 on some essentials. I als…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/23 03:17 PM
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I nearly divorced my husband because he thought like you did. He made decisions and didn't even include me in them. Just the most mundane things that completely contradicted either my core beliefs, what we had already discussed or led me down a path because he only gave me half the information. I nearly left him because of how severely he needed to control everything. It isn't a fairytale. That's why I need to be treated like an adult and not some fairy princess stuck in lalaland. If you are goi…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/23 02:42 PM
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We literally went to couples counselling to figure out how to agree better. But it is possible. If one person wants kids and one doesn't though, then you need to part ways as that is something called a gridlock and there will be no resolution. Sometimes it is incompatibility. But forcing your partner to have a kid and "be subservient" to your needs despite it directly contradicting your own is a recipe for disaster. I would be miserable with 5 kids my husband forced onto me. I only wanted 1 max.…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/23 02:39 PM
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Yeah, I know plenty of women in the same boat. Men and women are the same but different. We're all individuals with individual struggles. Just statistically, testosterone and hormones lean us one way or another. But some of it is personal and social conditioning, parental/generational trauma, etc. I'm an identical twin and we're two very different people with different aspirations, tastes in men and life goals. Neither of us has ever liked the others husband or would ever dream of a life like th…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/23 02:30 PM
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Yeah, and vice versa. Being shy is not solely a female trait.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/23 01:53 PM
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Yeah, then the whole issue is nobody that age range has any communication skills yet. You're all in the same boat just paddling in different directions lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/23 10:45 PM
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Then why are you sticking with him? Also, some women don't tell any problems. My mom never tells what she needs than gets angry saying she has to do all the work alone. When I forcefully start helping without her telling she gets angry. No idea what your personal circumstances are but my mother is the opposite. Turns out women are all individuals too. I told before it's not gender specific, both don't communicate. Again, I agree. When? by giving signals. Most of you didn't even say but only give…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/23 09:51 PM
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So you're asking why sitcom couples act like they're in sitcoms? Ok if you say women are better communicators, why do women say they don't need help when we ask them? Why are you even asking to do basic household tasks? A lot of men aren't helping, you're just participating equally in things that just need to get done. We get mad because nobody tells us when these things need to be done. They just have to be done. We get upset when you ask because a) it's not helping us, it's just requires parti…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/23 09:21 PM
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I agree. But people don't just jump straight to breaking up, is what I am saying. Most men will tell their partners "I didn't think it was that big of a deal that you were so unhappy." There's a bunch of people who will argue that everyone needs to live their lives in a tolerable level of unhappiness when their partners ask them to just listen to them and work with them to fix things. But this idea that most women are just jumping straight to divorce out of nowhere is absurd. It took YEARS for m…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/23 07:37 PM
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The breakdown is not due to kids. It's due to: 1. Men not pulling their weight to help their partner and kid. 2. Women not communicating their grievances to their partner. Women are communicating though. The divorces and relationship breakdoesn occur because a lot of men don't listen. I was in multiple car crashes (I was always the passenger except the last one where the other driver was still deemed at fault) and my.husband argued with me over whether I was even hurt or not. I was telling him t…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/23 05:12 PM
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As a feminist, i am against circumcision. When we had pur oopsie child though, it was my husband who insisted he have a circumcision if it was a boy.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/23 07:07 PM
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Talking about it was hard. My dad did similar things plus with religion and financial abuse. My husband seemed like the polar opposite at the time. I fell for the love bombing, the promises, my dad stole my life savings and cut me off from the family business I literally funded while underage, etc. It was a mess and now we're untangling it. I have abandonment issues because my dad literally dropped me on the side of the road 2 hrs from home with no wallet or cell phone and the only way home walk…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/23 02:17 PM
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I had lots of expectations about my husband. People aren't perfect. We either accept that or be angry at everyone all the time forever.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/23 02:10 PM
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Look up emotional abuse and it's textbook. He lied about vital things, hid a lot of fundamental core values from me that would have made us incompatible, name calling, gas lighting, humiliation, demeaning accomplishments and so on. Basically everything except outright barring me from friends and family. He recognizes it is emotional abuse, his therapist does, I do, his brother was the first one to point it out and it's not exactly hard to identify now that I am not covering for him anymore (yay …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/23 10:45 PM
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Libidos aren't set in stone. Mine went down after pregnancy. It went down when people hit me with their cars. His went up when he quit smoking, it went down when his mom died, etc Life is more complicated than "men need sex or the relationship is doomed".
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/23 10:42 PM
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Nope, my husband is emotionally abusive thanks to his daddy issues. Thankfully he's taking responsibility for his mental health and his actions and seeking professional help so as not to continue passing on generational trauma to our child. My husband getting the help he needs is proof any man is capable of doing the same. And I am willing to support him while he does or until he stops trying. Relationships are complicated but you are responsible for your own actions. Including if you cheat.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/23 10:26 PM
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Except I have never cheated in over 13 years despite mismatched libidos. There are other problems in our relationship and I still feel like cheating reflects more on the cheater than the person being cheated on. If you have no self control to the point where you'd betray your partner so intimately, that says more about you than the partner you're cheating on If I want to go sleep with someone else, I will. But I'll divorce my husband first because I'm not a liar and manipulator.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/23 10:19 PM
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They are the norm though. Most of the women I know love sex. We love being intimate and spending time with our partners. Etc. Of course there's abusive women or women with their own mental health problems, etc. Same as men. The difference is too many men expect sex regardless of all the other factors within the relationship. If you treat your wife like shit, why would she want to sleep with you? If you're not privatizing your family and neglecting their needs, why should they care about yours? N…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/23 10:17 PM
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As someone who loves sex and has a much higher libido than her partner, should I also be allowed to cheat if he's nit satisfying my needs on my demand?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/23 10:02 PM
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There's also the factor that relationships need to be balances as well as built on mutual respect. My husband had severe health issues where sex was completely off the table for like 3 months minimum. Is that a green light to cheat? I had a baby and wasn't medically cleared to have sex until almost 2 months afterwards. Is that a green light to cheat as well? If my husband is having a mental health crisis and is severely overwhelmed with his job/a traumatic event/life in general is that a green l…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/23 10:01 PM
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I know plenty of men who slept with lots of women with no repeat demands for a reason. Charisma doesn't mean you're good in bed. If you're selfish enough to cheat, chances are you're just as selfish between the bedsheets.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/23 09:56 PM
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You nailed it.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/23 07:59 PM
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Ew.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/23 02:24 AM
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No, women just have more self control. I am super hirny. I am hornier than my husband by far. But I also understand consent and don't feel obligated to somebody else's body for any reason whatsoever. Yes, some women can still be sexual assailants and rapists. Yes, some men can also exhibit self control and empathy. It's just women are taught to respect personal boundaries far more than men are.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/23 08:43 PM
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I agree. However, that's not the average single parent or their experience. Most people don't have multiple baby daddies or mommies.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/23 06:24 PM
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Sure, but then you have an abortion. If you don't have access to abortion, then it's stupid AF to voluntarily have sex with someone in the first place. I got accidentally pregnant on my honeymoon so if that wasn't a good time to have sex then I don't know when. Like my friend got pregnant because her birth control failed but obviously she wouldn't keep the child of her dumb ass ex boyfriend with two brain cells who just spent his entire salary on tattoos with 20$ to spare... Yes, I agree everyon…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/23 05:42 PM
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As someone who got pregnant accidentally after 2 forms of birth control failed, no, I am not stupid for being a victim to circumstances out of my control. Life happens. Condoms break, birth control fails, plan B doesn't work, and sometimes people delay vasectomies and we get oopsy babies. Yes, some people are reckless and make stupid decisions but that isn't the norm in these situations. Sometimes it is simply bad luck or even sexual assaults (ie, stealthing, reproductive coercion, etc). To pain…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/23 05:28 PM
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Nobody is against paternity tests. What women are against is being blindsided mid or post pregnancy while hormones are raging already with requests to prove they didn't cheat. If you want a paternity test, ask for one beforehand. During the family planning stages. You're all adults. If you have the belief then you need to express it and find someone whose compatible with that core belief. Otherwise, you're just setting the relationship up for failure by not communicating beforehand your expectat…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/23 04:21 PM
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And that is why it's creepy. What if your partner only dated you to make you into a completely different person? Make you give up all your enjoyment and aspirations in life specifically to meet only their needs? This right here is what we're talking about when we call age gaps creepy.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/23 02:56 PM
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We're just concerned for the women. It's genuinely creepy when people date specifically for age and not anything else.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/23 02:53 PM
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This is how I got into an abusive relationship. My dad was emotionally and financially abusive to us and I found a guy who treated me better. Then he slowly stopped. But my parents always shamed me for speaking up about anything. So I was ashamed and said nothing. Because I should somehow have known better. Despite never being taught what a normal, healthy relationship actually looked like. Now my husband is in anger management and domestic abuse counselling as well as personal and couple's coun…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/23 03:15 AM
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Yup, men aren't victims and are capable of being responsible for the status of their relationships. Glad we came to a consensus.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/23 07:24 PM
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I absolutely agree. Men are capable of working on their relationships outside the bedroom. I know they're capable. I've seen it myself.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/23 03:07 AM
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Sure hun. Men are just helpless victims who deserve sex no matter how little they contribute to a relationship. Solid argument.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/23 12:28 AM
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Sure bud. Maybe if men were better at jokes and math we wouldn't be arguing over a subreddit where too many men complain that being a subpar partner doesn't automatically get them laid.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/23 12:17 AM
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Oh, right. Most men can't take jokes. I forgot.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/23 11:55 PM
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Lol, just a lot of the men on r/deadbedrooms in general. Considering that's like...what? 0.0001% of the entire Earth's population, i think it's safe to assume it's not all men.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/23 11:41 PM
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Lmao, not all men, bud.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/23 11:32 PM
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Ah, yo old, I broke it, tried nothing to fix it and now I don't want it anymore argument. Classic Man math.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/23 04:08 PM
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Again, bud. I supplied data and sources. You supplied an opinion. Data isn't an emotional position. An opinion is. I'm sorry this is a difficult concept for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/23 12:39 PM
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You're being emotional and I can't argue emotions, sorry, hun.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/23 01:29 PM
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I'm very impressed you know so much about women. I also know a lot about men. Probably more than most men do.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/23 11:23 PM
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I love a good work of fiction. Thanks for sharing!
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/23 10:02 PM
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Yes, they do. But again, that's not a communally shared preference. There are also conservative women who prefer to date conservative men. And my husband and mother both grew up in small towns. It's pretty easy to see why people wouldn't be able to process that the rest of the world has different social, political and economic norms compared to a city of less than 5,000 people. This is, again, why anecdotal evidence isn't a great substitute for legitimate data.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/23 06:42 PM
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Again, bud, the projection goes hard here. I'm saying women are just as capable of the behaviours of men and vice versa. Keep up.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/23 02:16 PM
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Again, anecdotal evidence is not a substitute for statistical, nation wide data. Thank you for contributing to the conversation with your opinion though.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/23 02:15 PM
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👍
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/23 08:11 PM
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Oh, I think it was a bit of both but there's been plenty of death bed confessions of how abused wives disappeared their abusive husbands.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/23 04:23 PM
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Again, i have sources. You have an opinion. Your personal attacks don't negate the fact your opinion isn't based in reality.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/23 04:22 PM
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I've supplied 5 sources. You've supplied your personal opinion and theories based on that. Of course this is pointless.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/23 01:09 PM
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To be fair, a lot of men "went out for cigarettes" and were never seen again. I just learned that was just a more subtle and permanent method of making sure they weren't also some other women's problem eventually.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/23 12:55 PM
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Women literally will not date conservative men. and we we can see that through multiple studies. Ita not revenge that we won't date you. It's self preservation. Why would anyone want to date someone who is going to argue my personal preference and personal opinions whenever it conflicts with their own? Do you expect to be able to compromise in a relationship? Will you ever put her needs above your wants? Do her personal goals, dreams and aspirations matter to you whatsoever? If the answer is no,…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/23 12:53 PM
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No, we don't. We would rather be single. You're arguing from a personal bias. The data literally proves you wrong. And, again, i grew up with that dynamic and surrounded by those traditional households. I promise you, none of those women were happy in that dynamic.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/23 12:34 PM
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If we look at the voting data, women are more modern than men.. It's why there is a conservative dating website where they're basically paying women to sign up because they're so desperate for them. And it's not an isolated trend. Women are more progressive, including more than each generation before it Women aren't interested in traditional men and it's because tradition has never favored women.. We watched our mothers and grandmother's do everything while working and get no respect for it. I g…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/23 01:01 AM
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You're trying really hard to be a victim here. Nobody is saying it's all men or not a single woman. You're arguing your own bias. I have nothing additional to add aside from yes, you do continue to prove my point by arguing from a place of emotional bias. I am sorry you feel this way but you are responsible for your own actions and that includes how you handle your hurt.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/23 03:31 PM
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Same. It seems like they don't value themselves or the emotional connection awx brings. The blatant indifference to their own actions just gives me the ick. Like, yeah, if you enjoyed sex and connecting with people, I know plenty of men and women who enjoy casual, passionate sex with genuine honesty and friendship. But the bang and bounce method where your only goal is to add to the numbers then hard pass. There's usually no spul behind those eyes.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/23 11:46 PM
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Fixed.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/23 04:38 PM
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You're arguing over something most men complain about not hearing. Women can be problematic too and it's not all men. If hearing that from a feminist upsets you, maybe you should commit to some self reflection. Look I get it you need to deflect to avoid addressing the point, but we both know I am right here. You can go off on wall punch all you want, that doesn't refute my point at all as you very well know I am not talking about that. This is my point. You've demonstrated it well. The reason wh…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/23 12:42 PM
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Have you tried therapy?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/23 03:35 PM
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Yes, we are all individuals. You should treat everyone as individuals and learn to not focus your self worth on the approval of complete strangers. If that woman is not receptive to you then move on. It is not you or her that is the problem. It is the situation. Not every woman is the devil because a few reject you sexually. Not every man is the devil because a few assault us sexually. Treat people as individuals and make your judgements accordingly.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/23 03:34 PM
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The only time I've seen women discuss their personal preferences were teenage girls on timtok or on those male shock value podcasts like fresh n fit. So if you're exclusively getting your information from teenage girls or women placed in intentionally manipulative and heavily edited social situations you're not exactly making a solid argument here.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/23 03:12 PM
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Google how many people even get a conviction. Look at Brock Turner. He was literally caught in the act by 2 witnesses. There's been a case in Canada where a taxi driver got away with being caught raping an unconscious woman by the police. There is no guarantee for a conviction, no matter how much evidence a woman may have. No matter how many witnesses. The only guarantee that a rape happened is jf the person basically dies during it. You think women want to trust men who have openly admitted to …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/23 12:48 PM
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So only on the internet during your bro shock value videos?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/23 11:26 AM
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I'm telling you why women are less likely to impose their personal preferences on men unprovoked. I'm pointing out that if women actually did the whole "fuck you, you're ugly I want Gigchad or nothing" to a man's face there's like 50% they will get physically assaulted. Men don't have that fear and it shows because that doesn't even occur to you that women would literally be scared for their personal safety if they walked uo to some random and said "you're ugly". Lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/23 07:26 PM
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Updated my post
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/23 07:07 PM
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Honestly, I've never seen a woman stalk a guy down the road trying to coax them on a date. I did watch my 13 year old girlfriend cat call some dudes from a limo on her birthday once but I'm 34 now and haven't see it reoccur. Also, she never tried to run them over or tell them they were ugly bitches when they declined her attention. However, I lost count how many men will scream their preferences at me when I decline their advances or catcalls. Two separate guys tried to run me over with their tr…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/23 06:21 PM
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Really, women are going uo to you unprovoked and telling you "you're mid. You should settle."? I have only ever voiced my personal preferences if I was asked. Most women I know are only discussing preferences knowing it's just THEIR personal preference. Are there bad women out there who want a 6"6 male model who makes 500k a year but 90% of humanity still gets laid and in relationships no problem. The same why that I know red pillers are a minority of males as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/23 04:37 PM
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You know all women have different tastes in men right? I have a literal ifentiak twin sister and while she's also not into classically handsome men, she didn't marry Brad Pitt either. Individuals make individual choices. Just because I've had abusive exes doesn't mean all men are abusive. Just because my dad was financially abusive and emotionally abusive, doesn't mean all men are. Just because I've seen the most horrific things done to women by men on whims doesn't mean all men are horrific. Th…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/23 12:16 PM
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So men aren't responsible for child support because broke men shouldn't be responsible for their own actions but broke women should be. Got it. Solid argument. Send it to congress. It'll pass tomorrow.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/23 02:16 AM
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Sorry, what were you trying to communicate here? "you are step is from going" ??
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/23 09:49 PM
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I do blame both parties for poor decision making. I think both men and women should be accountable for when they reproduce. Thank you for agreeing with me!
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/23 09:07 PM
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So women need to only.pursue men who are top of their game financially? Personality should never be considered? If a man goes broke then women should just pursue a divorce? Again, why are men allowed to not pay child support if they claim to be too broke? I know plenty of men who went on vacations, bought the latest phones and gaming equipment, ate out every day, partied while whining about not being able to afford child support. How come broke men get a pass but broke women are somehow the devi…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/23 08:34 PM
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So broke men are allowed to make bad decisions because women exist? Broke men can neglect their parenting duties because they didn't know how sperm works? So it's a crime to hold a broke man accountable for the choices he made but broke women who have to physically and financially be responsible for those broke men's decisions are the evil doers for asking for child support? Are men just idiots who have no idea how babies are made?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/23 08:27 PM
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Sorry, are you saying men are just big Ole dumb dumb who have no idea that their supermarket can create real, live sentient children? Are all men just victims because they have no idea how their penises operate? Gtfo here. If you have sex, there is a risk of pregnancy. You all know that. We all make informed decisions to have sex knowing pregnancy might be an outcome of that decision. My husband is not a victim because a condom broke and plan B failed on our honeymoon. He knew the risks of what …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/23 08:19 PM
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Buddy, none of my exes are classically handsome. I dated for personality. I love big noses, skinny legs and glasses. Receding hairlines/big foreheads are my jam. I do like a noticeable jawline but physically, height or weight aren't typically factored in. Obviously if you are morbidly obese and barreling towards an early grave with poor life choices, that would be a turn off for me but most women I know all have a type and it isn't wealthy Chad McGigachin from Richville, USA.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/23 06:23 PM
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There is, in large part because those men can’t afford to pay it, so they’re not doing better. That's not statically the issue. Would love to see your sourcing on how they can't afford child support but also chose to create a child to support. Maybe they should invest in condoms or a vasectomy if they can't afford to make those decisions. The women who are doing ‘worse’ the stats done show the wealth transfer from husband to wife, which in reality often places the husband below the wife. It’s wh…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/23 05:22 PM
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You're right. Because there's billions in unpaid alimony and child support floating around currently. And with the cost of raising a child, the average payment barely covers a pack of diapers in most cases. There's a reason why men don't often apply for full custody when they can pay far less without all the responsibility in child support.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/23 05:12 PM
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Statistically speaking, women are more likely to end up in poverty after a divorce. More so, single mothers. Divorce is hard for everyone involved. It doesn't affect men or women more. It just affects individuals according to their individual circumstances.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/23 05:06 PM
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Women also don't enjoy divorce and can be equally blindsided by it. This isn't really a gender specific trauma.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/23 04:38 PM
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Sure, babe. I dated the men people told to give me a chance before and never again. Turns out if you have to tell people you're a nice guy, then you're probably not a nice guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/23 03:06 PM
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Again, it's not that common because most women don't care if they date or not at all. I know plenty of single by choice women who can't be bothered. I get the appeal
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/23 12:59 PM
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Again, most women I KNOW don't tend to let men pay for everything. And, again, it's largely because men will use paying for us to push our boundaries. Also, most women I know are more successful than the men they date so it just makes sense to pay.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/23 12:42 PM
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How I view it is whomever asks the other out should pay. I asked my now husband out and i paid. Then we split the bill for Date 2, took turns paying from then on out, etc. Most women I know don't let men pay for the first date because a lot of men feel entitled to sex if they do. It's why I don't let men pay for things a lot.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/23 12:27 PM
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Oof, buddy. Good luck with that.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/23 02:47 AM
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What if she doesn't know if she likes aex because she's only had bad partners? Are you a good partner for example? How important is foreplay? Would you contribute to the domestic labour of the household so she's not too stressed out to enjoy sex? Are you going to be kind to her when she's nit having a good day or going through rough times emotionally? How can you guarantee the sex will always be good?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/23 02:03 AM
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So she has to like sex but can only test that out with you?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/23 01:45 AM
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Oof, buddy. Could you imagine defending literal rapists? Maybe you need therapy.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/23 08:53 PM
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Fun fact: sexual abusers and rapists don't need you to come to their defense. They're already enabled enough, your support means nothing to them and if anything, just encourages them to find new victims knowing people like you will protect them. Well done!
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/23 08:43 PM
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👍
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/23 04:30 PM
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Proud of you, bud.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/23 03:54 PM
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Red plus blue equals?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/23 03:45 PM
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I think women can also be problematic. Nobody is saying otherwise. However, a lot of men mistake being emotionally abusive for opening up because of a lack of emotional intelligence. For example, my husband would "only open up" after he'd been emotionally abusive in order to gain sympathy and avoid very justified hurt from the consequences of his actions. It was "sorry I punched that hole in that wall and threatened to kill your cat. I had an abusive childhood" and then he never did anything to …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/23 12:38 PM
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Again if you lie and withhold the fact you always wanted to paternity test your child, you aren't being admirable or manly. If you are discussing having kids, you should be discussing having a paternity test. People tend to ask questions about parenting techniques, how many kids they want, schools they want to enroll them in, what you want to name them, family traditions, whether you want to circumcise your sons, whether you want to impose religion on them, etc. You have more than a few opportun…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/23 02:12 PM
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I see that my words don't even scratch the surface because you aren't listening, but I came up with some more analogies and just don't want to throw them away. I am listening. You must be in high-school because I don't think you've ever been involved in a conversation about family planning before. This really isn't that hard. Nobody is going to be offended if you bring up your need for a paternity test upfront. Of course your partner will be offended and hurt if you choose not to and you accuse …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/23 12:27 PM
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Again, you can communicate your need for a paternity test prior to getting someone pregnant. You are a grown adult. Not doing so will only end up in distrust or divorce. You can't argue with how someone will feel after finding out you hid wanting a paternity test from prior to even starting a relationship to them. You are more than entitled to a paternity test. But don't be surprised if your partner leads you when you accuse them of cheating on you and they just pushed out a child and permanentl…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/23 12:15 AM
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The point of this analogy was to demonstrate that people defending themselves against life-shattering events is normal. I agree. That's why I would leave if my husband felt I was being unfaithful and shook my trust in him. I make sure I am trustworthy and exemplify that behaviour willingly. And when they try to defend themselves against a life-shattering event, and someone rams them with another life-shattering event because "muh core values" or whatever, it's a dick move. Is it defense if you a…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/23 11:29 PM
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I mean, if you're pro-life and she withheld that information, sure. You're not entitled to stay with anyone for any reason. I don't know why she would want to be with someone who would judge her for having an abortion if she had one but I fully support your decision to break up with a partner whose core beliefs don't align with yours.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/23 10:30 PM
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Again, why would you want to procreate and be tied to someone you know wouldn't want to procreate and be tied to you if you accuse them of infidelity? There are plenty of women who will provide that security for you, and you'll even have a much easier time of getting a paternity test as well. Why would you lie to your partner unless you were intentionally being manipulative and underhanded for only self serving purposes? Again, it takes 2 minutes to say "yeah, I want 2 kids and I'd prefer if we …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/23 10:16 PM
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So just communicating you expect a paternity test prior to actually family planning is cuckolding? It's more manly to intentionally mislead and lie to your partner when they feel like you trust and respect them and wouldn't accuse them of infidelity? Also, if paternity tests just make sense then why can't you just bring it up with your partner prior to engaging in a relationship? People manage tell each other if they expect to get married or not, how many kids they might have, what career paths …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/23 09:30 PM
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Yes, you do. Because not everyone thinks like a red piller and gets your inside jokes.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/23 08:24 PM
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Care to explain the joke? It's clearly not an obvious one.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/23 06:31 PM
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Oh, you think I should tolerate emotional abuse and a subpar relationship because you think I don't have friends or family or other forms of companionship and personal fulfillment outside of male attention. My bad.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/23 06:29 PM
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Could have fooled me.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/23 11:49 PM
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Then they should teach themselves the skillset to value their mental health. It shouldn't be a woman's responsibility to parent another grown ass human being. Not only that, men shouldn't be in leadership positions if they can't even be responsible for their own mental health or basic needs.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/23 11:29 PM
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Again, please research why the wages stagnated to begin with the barriers that employees in the medical field face when it comes to asking for wage increases. Because nursing (and all medically related jobs) are a necessity and required in order to have a healthy population and therefore, a functioning and healthy workforce, there is a lot of government oversight and regulations for medical staff. If all nurses just up and left one day, not only would the vast majority of them be placed in jail,…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/23 10:59 PM
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Again, please look up why the medical industry is more difficult to navigate. There's a bunch of reasons why it's so difficult to negotiate wages and why it's difficult to even go on strike. The entire issue is incredibly complex and there's a bunch of ethical issues behind how we view nurses and the cost of their labour. Which, again, impacts wages far more than just "demand".
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/23 10:32 PM
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Again, no, it would also change government oversight, legal policies, hiring practices, influence the standard cost of living, etc. Again, that is one aspect that affects wages. And we know even in high demand, like during Covid, that doesn't increase wages automatically. There's also the fact that Healthcare is run under a different level of rules and regulations. They're considered a necessity overall and has much harsher oversight on policies and practices. There's also factors like privatiza…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/23 10:16 PM
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Yes, again, you can manufacture demand by manipulating the supply chain to influence wages. Thank God, you finally get it. It's not just demand for a service. It's also manufactured demand that can influence wages. Obviously that manipulation works both ways which is why wages stagnate in industries. You finally get it.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/23 10:04 PM
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Sorry, do you mean how would you pitch a fair wage? If so, collective bargaining via methods like unionizing and strike efforts. Also, public pressure and media coverage.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/23 09:59 PM
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Not a personal offense. These are just facts. Again there is nothing to debate here or misunderstand. These are fundamental concepts that anyone who is interested in how the economy or wants to become an entrepreneur should know or else they will get into legal trouble or worse at some point. Also, you should research why there are discrimination laws and their history. Because it's fairly easy to get caught up in discriminatory hiring practices or other ethics violations if you don't.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/23 09:49 PM
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Yeah, I head that alot. "I refuse to ever better myself or be responsible for my own happiness so I have to settle for a subpar relationship I will never find fulfillment in"
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/23 09:42 PM
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Men literally can just choose to also be alone. Nobody is forcing men to get into relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/23 09:35 PM
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Oof, buddy. Good luck indeed. 👍 Remember not to get your debits and credits mixed up.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/23 09:33 PM
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Again, I have a business degree and literally work in a business administrator role after having co-owned my own business for years. There isn't anything to debate here. These are just fundamental economic concepts that anyone should know and have a rudimentary understanding of how they play out in practice. I look forward to hearing more about how you think minimum wages were decided.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/23 09:30 PM
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Again, thisnis like saying "the cow says moo" when you're asking them how a farm makes money. It's relevant in the fact cow's live on farms and in no way helpful or productive to the conversation. Good luck with your career I business. You will need it.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/23 09:03 PM
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Buddy, Google is free. Again, here are some basic, fundamental terms you can begin studying in order to better understand wage stagnation and price point creations: -Price manipulations -price gouging -how minimum wage was created -wage stagnation in pink collar jobs -Market manipulation -macro versus micro economies -monopolies versus oligopolies -how societal and cultural variables impact local and global economies -corruption indexes -ethics in business/marketing -how supply chains are develo…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/23 08:56 PM
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Again, this is like arguing the alphabet when you're trying to discuss The Art of War. If you don't understand more than what a 5 year old can grasp, then yes, "dEmAnD MatTeRs in ecOnOmIeS". Well done on understanding 1 minor concept that influences almost nothing when it comes to creating wage standards and price points of the entire global economy. Good job 👍
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/23 08:46 PM
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Buddy, I'm not going to argue literal basic, rudimentary concepts with you. You're out of your depth here and its incredible that you keep trying but I would suggest further educating yourself on the fundamentals of how global and local economies operate. To put I mildly, I would be literally laughed out of any company I'd try and pitch this ideology to, let alone an institute offering a business degree. It is genuinely amusing how much you do not understand the concepts you are trying to discus…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/23 07:53 PM
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As long as you communicate that need prior to entering the relationship then you have no problem. Some people will be insulted by the lack of trust upfront and will choose not to be in a relationship where that distrust is being demonstrated for major life milestones. Neither are wrong. It's all about personal boundaries and whether two individuals are truly compatible. Additionally, there are no paternity tests required for the daughters in our families so far. They all ended up being their dad…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/23 05:00 PM
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Ok why are you point supply and demand again? The demand is the same with the provides gauging the supply proucing higher prices. Again, that would be like simplifying the Art of War for a toddler. Women are willing to pay more for a worse product, women create a demand for female centric products the brand provides it. That wasn't the argument. The whole point was that originally women didn't even need razors and there was ho expectation whatsoever for a woman to own one until a manufactured de…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/23 04:28 PM
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Because of supply, the supply for the products in the area is smaller than the demand resulting in the high prices. It's just supply and demand again. Except we can manufacture scarcity for products to increase demand and jack up price points to increase profit. Diamonds are a great example of manufactured scarcity. They also manufactured the demand for engagement rings because diamonds weren't in high demand and they wanted to create a tradition where diamonds would need to be purchased. We als…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/23 03:15 PM
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Couldn't agree more. Learned that lesson.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/23 12:27 PM
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No, they're not. That's my entire point. Again, I don't even think this is worth discussing with you because I'm not the only who has pointed out that supply and demand have almost nothing to do with how price pints and wages are decided. The only thing it decides is if someone might want to purchase the product or service. Again, this is like economics 101. I just have no idea why you don't understand this incredibly easy fundamental concepts. Like, please, Google this because this feels like y…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/23 12:25 PM
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And this right here is exactly what I'm talking about. This is why women would rather be alone than with a man who can't do the basic emotional labour of a 4 year old.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/23 12:22 PM
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Sure babe.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/23 12:21 PM
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Again, if you don't teach somebody to know better or give them any opportunities, how can they ever learn? And, again, I obviously got us both help the moment I realized it was abuse and we confirmed it with an educated third party? Like, again, it was people like you thinking the way you did and telling other abuse victims it's their fault for being abused that I didn't recognize it in my own marriage. Basically, people like you help protect abusers and heavily influence people reaching out to …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/23 03:27 AM
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Why would I be on the streets? I have money.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/23 02:29 AM
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Again, bro, I am saying the abuse didn't start off as abuse, I was set up not to have a support system, and that every time I spoke up I was told I was the problem. I was literally set up to fail because I thought abuse was normal. And I thought my husband was just how all men acted towards women. Just like you, pretty much. I must have deserved it. I should have known better. Why are you even talking about the abuse because it's just embarrassing for you to discuss it and I don't even care. It'…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/23 02:10 AM
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Yes, that is exactly it. Have you read any of my examples whatsoever? Also, do you understand the different economies and things like wheyher economies operate under ologopies versus monopolies also impact supply and demands? Again, I feel like you need to educate yourself on the fundamentals of the global marketplace because this is like trying to discuss "The Art of War" and we're beginning by teaching you the alphabet. Yes, there has to be a demand for a product for there to be a marketplace …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/23 02:05 AM
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No, I didn't realize it was abuse until after 5 years of marriage. He, again, also lied to me and admitted to my face he lied to me multiple times about many things that would've obviously made me say no to marriage. You do understand abusers can also be liars too, right? And a lot of abusers don't even think they're being abusive to begin with.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/23 01:51 AM
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You're not gonna believe this but he lied about of bunch of things that he didn't reveal until after 5 years of marriage that would've changed my answer entirely. Including how much the abuse would escalate after marriage to being unbearable and eventually undeniable even for someone raised explicitly from birth to endure it.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/23 01:48 AM
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Didn't choose that. Just thought all men were just more honest and that I was a piece of shit because my dad always made sure I knew what a piece of shit I was since birth. If anything, now I have a choice now that I can finally talk about being abused. Fun fact: when you're raised in an abusive household you're also raised not to talk about the abuse and are often told you're lucky it didn't get too physical. The fact my husband never hit me and didn't weaponize religion but also did the same a…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/23 01:43 AM
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Nope, turns out some people are just abusive and assholes sometimes just exist. I'm literally on good terms with all my exes and he isn't with any of his. He used to be emotionally abusive to his employees that they'd quit rather than deal with his abusive episodes. His own brother was the one who pointed out what he did was abusive and asked me if I needed help leaving him. I think there's enough evidence to support the fact he is abusive and I was just too used to being abused thanks to the ot…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/23 01:35 AM
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That's literally what I'm doing, bro. I didn't even realize what he was doing was emotional abuse because every man in my life treated women like garbage. I thought I married a stellar husband who was just honest about what a piece of shit I was thanks to my dad's lessons on how to give his children low self esteem. Abuse also just doesn't happen overnight.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/23 12:35 AM
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It doesn't though. And I've provided examples multiple times that prove you wrong
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/23 12:03 AM
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Oh. Absolutely that's partially the reason. But to be fair, it's not like there were any good examples to refute my experience either.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/23 11:55 PM
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Oh. Absolutely that's partially the reason. But to be fair, it's not like there were any good examples yo despute my experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/23 11:49 PM
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This statent right here is exactly why I can't take you seriously. You have no idea what you're talking about lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/23 11:48 PM
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So you have no qualifications, no bare minimum understanding of the global economy and international trade relations, hiring and employment policies, political impact on internal company practices including hiring, firing and deciding wages but you "know software" and that's like, basically the same thing as being an expert on employment and hiring practices in all other industries globally. Ok, bud.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/23 11:08 PM
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Again, I just provided examples on multiple industries that literally provides evidence that necessity does not dictate pricing whatsoever. I've also provided multiple examples on how pricing and even demand can be manipulated. I am not sure why you're struggling to understand that not only can we see very concrete, globally provided, industry wide examples of manufactured demand (including in areas of high demand and necessity) and that impacting the market value far more than just "necessity".…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/23 10:40 PM
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Cool, and do you create the software? Sell it? Do you decide the pricing? Are you in charge of marketing? How exactly are you applying your supply and demand knowledge on software to the entire global economy?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/23 10:36 PM
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Again, yes, it means that we manufacture wage gaps just as much as we manufacture price gouging and market demand. As in, we intentionally allow the wage gap to occur by allow systematically sexist policies and withdrawing oversight of industries. That's how Loblaws managed to price gouge bread while there was no scarcity of supply. It's also what we see when we look at phone and internet providers in Canada. I think you're finally getting it that demand doesn't mean fair wages despite high dema…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/23 08:48 PM
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Demand is not predicted by necessity. That's why we can manufacture market scarcity if needed. Again, this is economics 101.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/23 08:37 PM
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I appreciate that. 🙏
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/23 08:16 PM
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That being said, I know plenty of men who are good people and great partners. But they are in the minority in my experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/23 08:13 PM
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Market value is determined by the valuations or multiples accorded by investors to companies, such as price-to-sales, price-to-earnings, enterprise value-to-EBITDA, and so on. The higher the valuations, the greater the market value. Essentially, investors and profit points determine value over actual supple and demand. You obviously know you can force demand in niche areas by creating forced scarcity as well, right? For example, the diamond industry is a great example of forced scarcity to incre…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/23 07:58 PM
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Let me simplify, do you understand how wage stagnation occurs in an industry?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/23 07:37 PM
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Again, the market has a demand. The pay is just not matching that demand. Keep up.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/23 07:28 PM
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Oof, buddy. I grew up Christian fundamentalist. Believe me, we are not asking to be treated like royalty when we ask for equality.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/23 04:54 PM
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I've been with my husband for over 13 years and I'd rather be alone at this point. His companionship is only available only if we're doing the things he specifically likes to do. His affection is only when he wants something or he's fucked up royally. His love has always been conditional. And that's been the experience of most of the men in my life. I am only has good as the services I can provide for men. My own father included. And I see how so many men even treat their daughters the same way.…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/23 04:40 PM
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Same, I coowned a construction business gorgeous a few years. What do you sell?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/23 03:03 PM
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I'm telling you I have the education and experience already that I don't need your guidance. What are your qualifications again?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/23 02:16 PM
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Really? Because you've chosen to insult me when you can't refute my facts. If anything, you're just further proving that you have no substance and your position is purely an emotional one.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/23 12:35 PM
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Again, if you read the article you'd learn that women are leaving nursing because of that gap. And yes, people are choosing to pay women less. There's literally a recent Nobel prize on a study that confirms this. Keep up.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/23 12:34 PM
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Why? Because you don't like when women understand the economy better than you do?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/23 03:04 AM
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The one where they proved there was a wage gap and it compared same job titles and experiences to identify it? The same conclusion Stat Can comes to every 4 years and which also accommodates for all the "women just choose different jobs and don't have a work life balance" variables?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/23 01:58 AM
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[Nurses are concerned that those who work in long-term care homes aren't paid equitably compared to those who work in hospitals, Guest said. They also say the compensation they're offered to work in rural or isolated communities isn't enough to encourage them to take jobs there. Guest said governments can support nurses by providing educational opportunities, so they can adapt to the changes that are constantly taking place in the health-care system. Governments should also make more spots avail…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/23 11:14 PM
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That said if it isn’t entirely gender based, then gender is only one factor. Mi posit the primary factor is always going to be supply and demand. For example my ex sister in law is a nurse. She leaves for 8 or so months a year to work in extremely remote areas. She’s paid up to triple her rate in this city because of it. Again, this just further proves my point. I live in a major city and there's a huge demand for nurses. The hospitals can afford to pay them more but they won't though. Instead t…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/23 10:43 PM
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You think there isn't an outrageous demand for nurses during a time where the baby boomers are reaching their senior years and needing more and more medical care? Buddy, this isn't even rocket science. And no, it isn't entirely gender based but these are the most obvious and trackable data has confirmed a direct link between he increase of women populating an industry and wage stagnation.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/23 10:28 PM
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Again, it's any industry they choose to go into. It's not a choice whatsoever for an entire industry's wages to stagnate once one gender starts to have a substantial share of representation within it. You do understand that fundamental economic concept, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/23 10:17 PM
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Again, statistics are not in your favour and all of this information and data is entirely available with one quick Google search. Feel free go do your research.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/23 09:36 PM
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We're getting thise answers in therapy and couple's counselling. He has a bit of a traumatic childhood because his dad is a sociopath. I've met him and I firmly believe this man absolutely has or would kill somebody and that's probably still not even the worst thing he'd have actually done. My husband now has control issues and I also have my own daddy issues thanks to basically growing up in a Christian fundamentalist household with an emotionally and financially abusive father. It was a match …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/23 09:23 PM
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I have a business marketing degree. There's more than enough data that tracks this throughout multiple industries where women start to become over representative. Healthcare is an excellent example because there's such a high demand for doctors and nurses and lack of pay to accommodate for them. Was it a bunch of sexists outright saying "women are worth less than men!"? No. Of course not. But it is a prevalent opinion that if a woman can do it then it must not be that difficult. Maybe you should…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/23 09:10 PM
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Those are pink collar industries where you can clearly track wage stagnation as women start to increasingly populate it.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/23 09:07 PM
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Because he also happens to be emotionally abusive. He's in therapy and taking counselling for domestic abuse and anger management but it's also not exactly an isolated experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/23 09:01 PM
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You're right. And nobody needs Healthcare or education, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/23 08:53 PM
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Yes, it can be. Manufactured demand is also an aspect. I have a marketing degree and you can track how these notions and the pink taxes even began to take shape. You can also learn about how often women were in charge of budgets and overall family finances throughout history. It's literally a brand new concept that women are terrible at managing money and it is specifically because of conservative values and capitalism that this was normalized. Have you also looked up women and Healthcare? How l…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/23 08:52 PM
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Unless there is a conspiracy against women or something I mean, you literally think women are frivolous spenders because conservative, traditional Republicans want the nuclear family to keep voting for them. It's not a conspiracy theory so much as marketing that ideology and certain brands profiting accordingly. Women buy those products anyway, regardless of quality or price, while men need better quality products and marketing to even consider them to be bought. Is there a cheaper male alternat…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/23 08:42 PM
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The answer is, we don't. It's why more women end up in poverty in their senior years than men. It's why married women with children are more likely to face wage discrimination. Don't even get me started on how much that gap increase when it comes to minority women. There is no data that supports your opinion that women are racking it in with divorce and Child support. Especially when you look at the average child support payments versus the cost to actually raise a child. Not to mention, how muc…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/23 08:33 PM
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I already do and if that was the only thing the pink tax affected then I would be incredibly lucky. Unfortunately, it's not. **Also, men's razors are way better than women's razors to boot. We pay more for inferior products constantly as women. They didn't even test real blood on tampons and pads until this fucking year for example.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/23 08:29 PM
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Again, yes. If it isn't a necessity, then yes, it is frivolous. And, again, no, it isn't part of maintenance. I know plenty of men who add body kits and modifications to their vehicles. My own husband bought an entire 6k hobby car just to play around with. He's spent another 2k on upgrades and upkeep plus insurance. He's owner it less than 2 weeks. We have a perfectly good functioning vehicle and don't need a second vehicle in any capacity. All his friends are constantly upgrading their trucks f…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/23 08:25 PM
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Women tend be in charge of our chasing household goods and managing bill payments so a lot of that spending can be attributed there. There's also the pink tax which means women pay more for the same products and Healthcare needs than men. Overall though, men spend more than women on hobbies and frivolous items. Women invest more in personal care but it also costs more to be a woman via items like the pink tax and the fact Healthcare isn't made with women's biological factors included means more …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/23 08:18 PM
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Women statistically spend little amounts more often than men but men are likely to spend more more by making larger purchases albeit less frequently. Men are more likely to indulge in frivolous spending essentially. Ie, vehicle purchases and upgrades, technology upgrades including gaming hobbies or more expensive hobbies like mountain biking or climbing, they spend more on vacations, shoes, etc vs a purse or a splurge on a Starbucks coffee while out and about.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/23 08:11 PM
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Yeah, because they're being under paid. Look up wage stagnation once women start to overpopulated an industry. Men will literally just normalize paying pink collar jobs less than paying women what they're worth.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/23 08:08 PM
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Also, none of the data is organized by sexual orientation.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/23 12:38 PM
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Women love sex. I have a higher libido than my husband and most of my exes. The issue is men shame women for enjoying sex so of course you'll see that in your dating lives. And when we do want to enjoy it, you don't care about our enjoyment. Or you don't do the work outside of sex to make women want to sleep with you. If you're not showing us we're valued outside of sex in Ling term relationships then it just feels degrading and a chore. Sex is complicated but not any more complicated than men n…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/23 02:18 PM
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I don't date to win. I date for long term compatibility.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/23 12:21 AM
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Okay, then you submit a formal manual on how every person on earth should interact with each other.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/23 05:28 PM
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Came here to say this. I've hit on guys who I thought were initially being open and receptive only to be turned down. There's no exact formula to guarantee an interaction for anybody, regardless of romantic intent or not.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/23 05:27 PM
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That's not actually true though. Gender norms aren't a biological factor lmao.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/23 08:05 PM
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I dabble but I prefer being a superhero princess construction worker surgeon.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/23 11:23 PM
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No, I am the assistant to the president of dirtbikea and jars. We build 4 story busses for people to practice not being homeless in.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/23 11:09 PM
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I just rev the dirt bike until an intern is summoned. Then I hand him the jar and tell them not to make eye contact. It's almost like you've never been in an office before.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/23 10:58 PM
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No, I use it to open jars and to operate my computer. It's a tool. Not a toy.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/23 10:52 PM
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I often use my dirt bike at work and just to finish daily tasks so I definitely agree.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/23 10:35 PM
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My brother would talk about his back hair, his boners, his zits, his poops, his farts, etc. Why wouldn't we also talk about our periods?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/23 05:40 PM
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Eh, I don't think that's a make vs female situation. That's just youth. I know plenty of guys who focused on their social media use, couldn't walk by a mirror without checking themselves out, and always had to have the new kicks, video games, iPhone, etc. Statistically speaking, men tend to purchase more frivolity than women. Women make more little purchases while men purchase larger, more expensive items when it comes to unnecessary spending.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/23 05:39 PM
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My brother was the gold child (my dad was Christian fundamentalist) and that meant a lot of pressure on our personal relationship. My parents babied and enabled all his poor decisions while the girls were either ignored or did all the household chores, babysitting, car maintenance, landscaping, etc. We would maintain our vehicles just for my brother to call first dibs whenever he wanted one. Didn't matter what we needed it for, my brother would be handed it all on a silver platter. And it was re…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/23 05:34 PM
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Have you tried therapy instead of joining hate groups?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/23 09:45 AM
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I grew up Christian fundamentalist so while I agree that might be a possibility, I also can recognize that we already love with that reality regardless.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/23 01:57 PM
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I guess I'll just keep living my life unbothered then. Whew! Glad we cleared that up.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/23 01:39 PM
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It literally was my whole life. My dad used to be very strict with gender roles and female subservience. It sucked and I was miserable but I thought one day Gid would reward me for all my suffering and obedience. Then I became an adult, expanded my social circle beyond just church friends and people my parents approved of and finally got a chance to experience life outside of church. My dad didn't speak to me for over a year after I slept over for the first time at my now husband's house (with f…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/23 12:40 PM
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I've had more women than men ever step up when I got assaulted. I've actually rarely if ever seen a man interfere if other women are in that scenario. Women basically have a system to check on and step in when they see other women in trouble though.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/23 12:22 PM
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Oh sorry, I'll pretend like I care if that upsets you.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/23 12:16 PM
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Sorry, do you want women to give a shit if you date the latest pixel or not? Why is women not giving a shit about your sex life so offensive?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/23 12:08 PM
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I feel like you lack serotonin.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/23 12:07 PM
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Buddy, it'll still be better than dating someone like you.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/23 12:06 PM
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I'll write that in my diary that a random person on the internet doesn't like me. Do you think I'll need therapy to get over this trauma?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/23 12:05 PM
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Sure, hun.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/23 12:04 PM
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Healthy as a horse, thanks for for inquiring.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/23 01:11 AM
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I think a lot people don't understand that there is a time and a place to discuss issues. For example, I wouldn't go to an ovarian cancer charity event and accuse everyone there of not caring about men because they didn't include prostate cancer patients. A lot of people don't understand that half of being a good friend and just generally an emotionally intelligent person is that you need to provide a safe place to discuss struggles and to vent. That means not choosing that moment to pipe up and…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/23 11:35 PM
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Me either. Not a single woman has given a shit about AI girlfriends.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/23 11:17 PM
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Okay, bud. I'll let you know if any woman I ever encounter even mentions men potentially dating AI. Nobody gives a shit and I am sorry that is offensive to you for some reason. Also, what do you think real women are saying when men talk about dating AI? I am genuinely curious. Do you think we're gonna like "Burn Book" silicone valley or something? Is anyone trying to even stop them from being created (aside from the normal "should AI be invented at all" debate, of course. That's obviously still …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/23 10:40 PM
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Are you offended that a woman isn't judging you for your personal sexual preferences or something? Are you trying to play victim because the vast majority of woman are indifferent to your sex life?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/23 10:17 PM
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Haha, nope! I grew up Christian fundamentalist in a right wing family and taught to be subservient to men my entire life. These men literally just expected to be taken care of by the women in their entire lives. I just thought all men were angry idiots who couldn't manage simple household tasks because they didn't have the emotional intelligence to learn.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/23 10:00 PM
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I've had the same experiences with a lot of men who expected me to fulfill their mother's role. Shitty people exist no matter what gender they are. If you don't like it then go program a friend who won't ever disappoint you. Win-win.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/23 09:46 PM
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Chad thinks you are an inanimate object just as much as an incel, I can assure you of that. I don't know anyone named Chad but I'll keep that in mind if I meet one.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/23 09:44 PM
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I don't know a single woman who gives an iota of a shit about a complete stranger's sex life unless they were mentally unwell to begin with. If you want to date your microwave, your car or Siri on your phone, most people do not give a shit. We are not jealous. We will not try and change your mind. We fully support your decisions and your pursuit to happiness. Nobody is offended. Nobody is going to therapy because "all the 'good men' would rather date AI than another human being" etc. To most wom…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/23 09:43 PM
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And? Why do I care about a complete stranger's sex life?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/23 09:23 PM
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Human ones.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/23 08:34 PM
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No need to lie and manipulate women when you can buy an affordable substitute for a toxic relationship where nobody gets hurt and these men can continue on practicing one sided relationships. Win-win in my books.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/23 08:09 PM
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I confidentially feel like passport bros and AI gfs don't have the emotional intellect to have a mature romantic relationship. And my feelings=facts.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/23 07:09 PM
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Human woman here: No, we genuinely don't care. Have your AI gfs. I hope they even develop (affordable) physical bodies for you guys one day. I agree, this is a good thing as it keeps men who already view women as inanimate objects strictly with their own kind.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/23 07:07 PM
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Right!? Like, this one dude responded like "oh well, alcohol was involved, everyone's inhibitions were dropped" and I'm like...I've never assaulted anyone while drunk. I'm pretty sure if you commit ancrime while drunk it is still a crime. Like...what?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/23 01:51 PM
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Buddy, I got stalked while just walking the street all the way home from work several times before. And I had a guy follow me home on the bus from high-school and stalk me for 3 years after I told him no. This isn't just drunk idiots being goofy. Bad people don't just wait until night time to victimize people lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/23 05:24 AM
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One time someone tried to run me over with their truck when I turned them down while bar hopping with a girl friend. Literally just yelled out of his truck to get in (he was a complete stranger with no prior interactions). Another time, a friend of a friend (who was freshly married might I add) asked me to give him a bj in the alley behind the restaurant. He slapped me when I declined and askEd him what his wife would think. No men ever interfered, including literal bouncers and the police once.…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/23 05:16 AM
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Lol, sure, hun.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/23 07:27 PM
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Okay, then that's where you're losing everyone. A baddie is someone whose confident in their sexuality and style no matter what they're wearing. Being a baddie explicitly means not giving a shit about what a man thinks of her and her appearance. This is probably why you're not going to convince a baddie to give up her lifestyle for random male approval.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/23 07:11 PM
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Lmao, what is a baddie to you, hun?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/23 04:46 PM
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Honestly, a lot of men do this. And they feel enabled by men like you spouting how women need to change for them the moment they enter a relationship. You're a great example of a controlling jealous man!
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/23 11:35 AM
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This is the same font as "You can be an atheist and still believe in God" lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/23 11:33 AM
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OK, statistically, and personally, women in their 30s aren't interested in subpar men. That is the conclusion. You arguing from an emotional standpoint is just a moot point. Your opinion doesn't negate the fact human women are telling you directly we'd rather be alone than with someone who doesn't value us. If that is shocking to you, that says more about you than the women you're complaining about.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/23 02:44 AM
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I agree. And a great indicator of a selfish person is someone who intentionally targets barely legal women specifically because they want to take advantage of their inexperience and naivitie. I agree!
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/23 08:57 PM
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No, that's just the logical result of telling women they're not worth anything as they age.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/23 05:29 PM
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That woman you idolize at 20 is going to have the same shitty experiences as that woman you're trashing for being used up in her 30s. I do find it funny that so many men always think they're adding value to women's lives but other men are devaluing women to worthlessness. If men were such a valuable thing to have then why does having one devalue women so much?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/23 05:26 PM
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I didnt mean all older women want men, some are delusional I guess. But a larger portion of older women want a man compared to that of younger women Maybe 10 years ago but most women my age now aren't prioritizing men anymore. They'll divorce if the relationship no longer adds value to their lives. Idk why you are using a personal anecdote where you consciously chose a partner that ended up being bad for you to generalize all men.. There are plenty of men out there that provide all of the things…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/23 05:23 PM
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Okay, and most mature people, looking to create stability in their lives, don't want to be shouldered with a partner who shirks their responsibilities and prioritizes their own desires over communal goals. I know plenty of people who can enjoy a good time in moderation. I happily will get day drunk with friends and go wild and I'm 34 and married and a mother. And I have younger single friends for that reason as well. The difference is the men I'm talking about don't understand moderation and the…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/23 05:18 PM
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The 40 year old dating a 26 year old is successful careerwise. And he likes to go out and party like he's 19 still. He does coke, drinks on weeknights and surrounds himself with boy's boys who won't question how he treats the women in his life. He's honestly one of the most immature people I know and he loves his younger women for a reason.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/23 05:04 PM
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You know that 20 year old has to turn 30 too, eventually, right? Lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/23 04:47 PM
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As an older woman (mid 30s) exiting a toxic, emotionally abusive marriage, I'd rather be alone than date another man. Men aren't some big prize for women. You're supposed to be our partners. If you can't provide respect, kindness, and companionship then what value do you actually have for us? Hard pass
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/23 04:46 PM
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You don't think most older men think the same? I know somebody who just had a baby with her older boyfriend. The guy is unwilling to do more than minimum wage jobs and is insanely jealous of her. Most age gap relationships I know are problematic and the men are incredibly emotionally and financially stunted. It feels a lot like they target younger women intentionally because they have that same immaturity. I know another guy who is 40 dating a 26 year old. He onviously withheld from her that he …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/23 04:43 PM
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If I just have the motor can I still call it a car?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/23 06:05 PM
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I'm just wondering what an insurance claim looks like when you abort a kid. Should we do it via "mileage" ie, how many weeks along they were before being "stolen"? Is there a blue book value? Cann cops pull a pregnant woman over for.running too fast I'm a school zone? Are pregnant women cars or submarines if they go in a swimming pool? I really like this car analogy.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/23 06:04 PM
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I've been pregnant. Do you think our bodies just snap back into pre-pregnancy? I had friends who broke legs, tore from vagina to asshole, lost teeth, lost eyesight, bone density, had literal muscles permanently tear, etc. This were healthy pregnancies. I know why pregnancy isn't for everyone because I experienced it myself. What are your qualifications, again?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/23 02:26 PM
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Oh, so you're saying somebody else's decisions/experience shouldn't affect you?wow, what a novel concept.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/23 02:25 PM
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Sorry, I just get confused when you compare pregnancy to owning a car.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/23 09:34 PM
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Okay, is someone committing an unwanted abortion on you? That would make you a victim of a crime, I agree.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/23 09:19 PM
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Do you think if you don't believe people should be stealing cars should you then start stealing all the cars yourself?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/23 09:18 PM
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I mean, it still tracks. Also, abortion isn't a crime.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/23 07:59 PM
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Luckily my second gf was not an entitled white girl feminist, and she taught me quite a bit. We're still friends. But I also learned from her that every woman is a bit different, and that communication is important. Oh I'm sorry, did a woman communicate her needs to you and you were receptive to listening? Wow, it's almost like that's a common solution to a common problem. The women here who are acting like "guys should just know" are making their own lives harder and taking it out on their sex …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/23 08:33 PM
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I've experienced women making up stories about how hard they have it and how terrible men are very frequently. And I'm sure anyone who tells you you're terrible in bed is automatically a liar lol. The majority of women on here will default to "men are all terrible" rather than do some introspection. And yet here's one who fully acknowledges its not all men and you're still arguing "it's not all men". No, I just know how many women like to say that all men are evil, terrible, selfish lovers, and …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/23 08:20 PM
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"The study is not yet peer-reviewed, but at least the results are on track to be properly scrutinized." It'll be cool when we find out the results.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/23 08:17 PM
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And that joke doesn't necessarily have any basis in reality, considering women gain social clout for making "men ain't shit" comments that have no actual support. Oof. Bud. I've experienced it myself. It's far more common than most men will admit lmao Only because if these women admitted that men weren't uniformly terrible they'd have to do some introspection. We don't think all men are terrible. We think selfish men who aren't interested in pleasing their partners are a waste of time and we wil…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/23 07:07 PM
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You're right. At some point I don't want to try and communicate my needs to someone who isn't even interested. Why would I have sex with a man who cannot satisfy me, will argue if I orgasmed or not, refuses to do anything to make the experience pleasurable for me and then claims I'm not communicating enough? We don't owe men an orgasm the same way you don't owe us one. This is a two-way street.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/23 07:00 PM
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Sure bud. I think this post is a great example of what women face when it comes to communicating their needs. This entire post is women communicating that men also need to communicate and listen to women if they want to retain their partners. It's a literal joke amongst women that men will rub the left labia over a clit and argue with you when you don't orgasm. I've literally had a guy debate me over whether I came or not. Like, most men's inability and unwillingness to communicate productively …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/23 06:57 PM
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well if this is how you communicate then i can understand why. Lol, pointing out women enjoy sex and do communicate their needs to their partner is a pretty non-offensive and valid perspective to share. I do find it funny that even in a friendly discussion on women having sexual needs that still offends a lot of men. It just further proves my point that a lot of men don't want to listen because it hurts their egos to admit they have no interest in being better lovers. They prefer women be silent…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/23 06:52 PM
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She told him what? That she wasn't satisfied? Let me guess, and then she huffed and said "you should just know" when asked what she was into? Lmao, nope! But it checks out that is what most men would assume what happens. A lot of guys unfortunately don't get much positive feedback from their female partners, because for those female partners giving positive feedback is a turnoff (they want to be pursued, not give affection). So a lot of guys get used to it. Have you tried talking to a human woma…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/23 06:47 PM
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no you talking all this shit about men is complaining. This is the attitude we often get when we do try and communicate. Nothing I said is a personal slight against you or any man who values their partner's pleasure to begin with so why the hostility? Do you identify as someone who is unwilling to pleasure their sexual partners? Is that why this hits do close to home for you? so basically you've been full of shit for the whole thread and dont practice what you preach Again, I did practice what I…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/23 06:43 PM
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I met his exgf. She definitely told him. He told me she told him. These men literally tell on themselves at this point lmao. And I communicated the crap out of our sex life. It means shit if they don't want to listen. Also, why would you even want to have sex with someone who isn't even enjoying it? That's creepy af
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/23 06:38 PM
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Complaining incessantly, while technically communicating, is not pleasant or helpful to your relationship. Right, telling you that we communicate what we need is complaining. We need to gentle parent men into being less selfish sexual partners apparently. Lol i like how you see no middle ground between masturbate and "be used as a sex doll" and dont seem to be willing to work with men so you can both improve your sex. Seems like a productive strategy. And there is middle ground. My husband had t…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/23 06:30 PM
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Again, we do communicate. Example A: this entire post. It's lots of women telling men that when we tell a lot of men what works for us, they literally try and argue with us lmao. And yeah, why would we encourage other women to experience that level of disappointment sexually when these men are very vocal about not prioritizing their sexual partners anyways? And yes, I would rather masturbate than be used as a glorified sex doll by a man. I love sex. I think about it 24/7 but that doesn't mean a …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/23 06:18 PM
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I think having a partner offers more than just sex. Absolutely, but you still need to be fundamentally compatible, and that includes sexually. I'd have divorced my husband by now if he only ever focused on himself getting off every time we had sex. I've also broken up with past partners who didn't prioritize sexual compatibility as well. i think that says more about you as an individual than about women at large Nope, I know plenty of women who broke up with exes over being selfish in bed. I kno…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/23 06:06 PM
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Buddy, women are just as capable of getting themselves off and guaranteeing themselves an orgasm. Why would we waste that effort on a unappreciative and uncaring partner who only prioritizes their own pleasure during sex? I'd rather just masturbate and call it a day lol
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/23 05:46 PM
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Cool, not exactly accurate as I've had experiences with partners who couldn't finish before but that's not exactly news to women. Our whole point is you can absolutely get yourself off by yourself but if you expect to have sex with a partner then you need to be responsible for communicating with your partner too. If you want a repeat performance, make sure your partner is also satisfied. If you just want to fuck until only you cum, disappoint your partner and then refuse to listen when they ask …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/23 04:57 PM
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You're not going to believe this but men are just as capable of communicating with their sexual partners as women are. Have you tried talking to your partner and having a discussion where you can both communicate your needs?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/23 04:39 PM
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Oof, buddy. As a human woman, I do find that idea hilarious. The clitoris has more nerves on it than the entire penis but women don't like sex? Lol ok
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/23 04:37 PM
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This is why women don't take it seriously when a lot of men tell women just need to communicate better. This is example A on why it's so hard to communicate with so many men what they need sexually. This whole post is covered in women telling men what they like sexually and there is still men like you telling us we don't even mean what we say. Women like sex. If you suck at sex and dont care about getting us off then we don't want to do it with you as a result. Being good looking will not make y…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/23 04:34 PM
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It took my husband 3 years of consistent communication to understand foreplay is required and you can't go straight into penetration after just making out for 2 minutes. It was only because of my own inexperience that I didn't break up with him after the first year of disappointing sex (he had multiple other partners before me who all gave him the exact same feedback). It took literally other men telling him that foreplay is important for it to even be incorporated in our sex lives. Most people …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/23 04:25 PM
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Iunno, why do you think anyone would begin a career path?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/23 08:31 PM
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I work in construction and grew up in warehouses. I can tell you exactly why women aren't in those industries.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/23 12:47 PM
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Yes, it is. Men don't realize that women often get the short end of the stick in relationships. We have to do all the roles while men largely feel like they only have to provide for their family and the duty is done. Why would we take on all those roles for someone who doesn't even appreciate it? Why would we intentionally make ourselves miserable so a man can enjoy the fruits of our labour's while offering nothing in return? I'd rather be single and career driven than unhappily married. And I'm…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/23 12:49 PM
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Psychiatrists and other experts would know more to be fair. And they're that sweet spot between philosophy and science. Guess what that means when most psychiatrists agree with abortion and supporting private medical care?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/23 01:03 AM
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Much better than philosophers lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/23 12:58 AM
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Yeah, I know lives are at stake. That's why I make sure an expert in their field has vetted the process and practice them every day. You are trying to argue your own personal morals should supercede private medical decisions. There is no argument here. You're just stating an opinion.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/23 12:54 AM
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I do trust them with illnesses. I don't trust them with non-medical questions. Morality is not a medical question. I agree. So keep your personal morals out of medicine. Would you trust your doctor to fix your car? To rewire your house? No? Why not? If you believe in science then trust the experts! Or do you understand that just because someone is an expert in one field, that doesn't make them an expert in all fields? I would if he literally rebuilt cars all the time. Lots of people wear two hat…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/23 12:32 AM
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We should err on the side of caution when there's ~800,000 lives per year at stake. There's easily double that for blood transfusions recipients a year. I don't think you get it. Because morality is not a medical question, doctors have no special insight. I'm emphatically NOT agreeing with you. I get it. You don't trust medical science and would rather pray away your illness. Smart. Trust the sky daddy. Only because you're not looking. There's plenty of overlap And yet Christian fundamentalists …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/23 12:11 AM
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No, but I wouldn't blame them for pushing for that. People fight for what they care most about. But you're also saying to err on the side of caution just in case morals of a minority opinion are worth more than medical care. So which is it? How many times do I have to tell you that morality is not a medical question? Thank God, you get it. Abortion is ok when it's to save the mother's life, just like killing in self-defense is ok. Just because it's ok to kill in self-defense doesn't mean it's ok…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/23 11:59 PM
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Yes, we've been over this. I'm fine with science answering empirical questions. But morality is not empirical. So jehovah witnesses are against blood transfusions for their own moral reasons. Should we make transfusions illegal too then? I'm not qualified to determine the exact details of viability. They are no more qualified than I am to determine the morality of the situation. Their scientific knowledge gives them no special insight there. Doctors have thankfully already done that whole worklo…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/23 11:09 PM
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Removing cancer isn't murder, it's part of the patient. You can tell because it has the same DNA as the patient. A fetus does NOT have the same DNA as the mother. OK, so you're relying on science to determine that then? I would say it depends on why it's not viable and what risk it poses to the mother. I'm not a doctor, I can't tell you specifics, and I would welcome their expertise in helping to inform the decision, but it's not ultimately up to them where we draw the line. You're right, youre …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/23 08:47 PM
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Actually, making them pay would be making the world MORE fair, not less. Unlike abortion. I find it would be the opposite and it's selfish to deny medical care for unwanted pregnancies. But that's just a difference of opinion. Oh no, I don't. I'm sure it happened a lot. I'm sure tons of people got away with it. Just like how many people get away with murder in general. Just because we don't catch every murderer doesn't mean we should make murder legal. Well, how about you prosecute all the rapis…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/23 07:15 PM
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Yeah, the world isn't perfect. Tough shit for them, they should be forced to pay. Exactly, that's how I feel about abortions. You don't like them? Tough shit. The world isn't fair. Which was stupid. Before Roe v. Wade the number of women dying from illegal abortions was minuscule, under 1000. Might've been under 100, can't remember. The number of children dying in abortions each year is ~800,000. Approximately 1/3rd of pregnancies end in abortion. How do you think people reported on having an il…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/23 06:39 PM
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It's not mandatory to hold a funeral for anyone. You should get a death certificate for a miscarriage, and you should have access to child support (which would basically be paying for 50% of pregnancy-related medical bills) But you don't. And men aren't obligated to pay half of the pregnancy-related bills. In fact, men get upset just about paying child support lol. The point is, that was "modern times" and "modern medicine" for them, and we all agree they were wrong. So who says they're not wron…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/23 06:31 PM
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Yes, you can. You can hold a funeral, true. But its nit mandatory. You dont need a death certificate for a miscarriage either. You also can't sue for childsupport for a fetus or a zygote. We've been over this, medicine doesn't define personhood. It is a zygote AND a person until 11 weeks. Just like how between 0-18 it is a child AND a person, And before that it was sperm and an embryo. Again, we can confirm when a person becomes a person. It's at birth. The vast majority were pro-segregation too…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/23 06:20 PM
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Life begins at conception. So every miscarriage deserves a funeral? We can sue for child support at conception? What's the legal rights of a fetus? Does it supercede the rights of the host at all times? Again, that's your personal opinion. Medically speaking, that's not the case. It's a zygote until 11 weeks. You're arguing your personal morals too, you know. All morality is personal, and yet we still can pass laws about it. Yes, we use experts in the field and access the people the laws affect …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/23 05:18 PM
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Do you think it is better to be dead than poor? Is it death if you've never been alive All morality works this way. Everything we disallow is forced on people who have to live with the consequences. Abortion is not unique in this. I agree. That's why we should leave it up to the women and the doctors receiving and giving care for these scenarios. Arguing your personal morals I'd a moot point. No it isn't. There's no unborn child's life at stake with prostate cancer. I absolutely care about women…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/23 05:06 PM
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We've been over this. Abortion to save the life of the mother should be, and is allowed. again, modern abortion laws don't allow for this though. What they practice is just prolonging denying an abortion until the clock runs out and the mother goes septic. That's literally the current policy. We've been over this too, remember? Of course not. The rapist should have no rights to anything. He should be in the worst prison or dead. Cool, most rapists don't even see a courtroom, let alone a jail cel…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/23 04:49 PM
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Pregnancy and birth are not punishments. They're both part of the injury. Ever been pregnant? It's not fun. Da fuq? Neither the rape victim, nor the unborn child should be punished So when a rape victim is begging for an abortion and dying in a hospital bed trying to squeeze a baby out of an orifice it doesn't fit out of, you think that's helping the rape victim? Forcing them to share custody with their rapists is helpful? Making them raise a child as a child is kindness? Forcing a child into an…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/23 03:56 PM
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Then bringing up that they live in the economy As a knock against them is pretty stupid huh? You're the one pointing out that Asians are an exception to American economy. And I'm pointing out that when they're not influenced by western culture and policies, they aren't a great example of a functioning family unit. The 2nd lowest of any ethnic group in the country. Like I already told you. You disgust me. Again, you're commenting on Asian who live in a western country that has a failing economy a…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/23 03:54 PM
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Yup, so punish the living, breathing child for the actions of a rapist. Got it.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/23 03:50 PM
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/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/23 03:46 PM
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This is untrue. They all have "life of the mother" exceptions in the US. That needs to be debated in a court of law to even be implemented. In which case, women often die. That's why so many women are going septic and being denied care. I'm not forcing them to have sex. I'm not forcing them to have unprotected sex. I'm just saying they shouldn't be allowed to kill their kids. Except if it's a 12 year old rape victim. Then you can force them to give birth. Got it.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/23 03:45 PM
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We were talking about family values in the USA and you are trying to claim asians are somehow responsible for the state of the economy. You're just weird. I said multiple things were responsible for the economy. Asians are not one of them and I'm in awe of how you got to that conclusion. As a good example fo a community with family values that succeeds in every metric.... Except for their high suicide rates.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/23 03:44 PM
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Again, i had heavily monitored internet use. And you're trained from birth to not disobey. I got punished for the most mundane things. If I looked up sex on the internet I would've been literally locked in my room for a year and denied access to friends/social events/outings more so than I already was.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/23 03:43 PM
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Yes, because I'm telling you what the personal though process was when I was denied sex education. Yes, people will discuss personal experiences with political policies occassionally. Get over yourself lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/23 03:37 PM
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Nice goal post shift Nice deflection from the fact you changed the goalpost. Im still discussing the USA. Because I don't have to? What you think they don't exist? We're talking about the US this whole time... And then you switched cultures and brought up Asians.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/23 03:36 PM
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That's the rapist's fault. They shouldn't share custody, I agree with you there. But it's not the child's fault that it's the product of rape. And yet she still is pregnant. Blaming the rapist doesn't help the victim whose still physically endangered by her pregnancy. I'm fine with abortion to save the life of the mother. Pretty much everyone is. Even misogynist shitholes like Afghanistan allow that. It's still tragic, but one tragedy is better than two. The vast majority of anti-abortion laws d…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/23 03:35 PM
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Yeah, but they're still living in a country where the economy is failing while the population increases then. Or are Asian Americans not part of the American demographic as a whole then? Also, why didn't you just say Asian Americans then if that's what you meant?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/23 03:16 PM
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People asked how.situations like mine happened. I explained. I don't think I was a victim, bud. If you don't want to hear the reality of your suggestions then move on. Stop making this personal because you can't argue with what actually happens whe. Tou deny people sex education and ask them to only practice abstinence unless they intend to procreate.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/23 03:15 PM
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They're eminently qualified to do the procedure and to explain any physical consequences. They have no special insight into the morality of doing it. Well how moral is it to make a 12 year old rape victim carry a pregnancy to term and make them share custody with their rapists? For women to go septic and almost die or die directly from an unlikable pregnancy? Morally speaking, those doctors are the ones who need to step in and provide care so of course they should have a say in what they can phy…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/23 03:09 PM
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The one child policy Asians or the ones who experience exceptionally high mass suicides demographically?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/23 03:05 PM
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I'm pointing out my personal experience which directly correlates with the data. Nobody called anyone a victim except you.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/23 03:04 PM
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I'm not a victim. Nothing bad happened to me lmao. I'm just saying, raising people to never talk about or discuss sex doesn't prevent them from having sex. And I am proof of that.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/23 12:54 PM
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The people who ytaibed years to become doctors and provide medical advice to the people aren't qualified to provide opinions on a medical procedure? And what financial incentive is there to provide abortions?. American Abortion clinics run off donations since government funding isn't applicable for thise services. And even in Canada, it's not exactly a profitable sector to get into.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/23 12:37 PM
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Yeah, and so are most people who deny proper sex education to their children. Because then you get people like Christian fundamentalists who don't have access to information and have to trust rumors and myths for sex education lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/23 12:34 PM
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Again, never had that class. Went to public, private and Christian school throughout my life. Never seen a condom the entire time.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/23 12:33 PM
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Buddy, nobody can take you seriously. It's cool.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/23 12:32 PM
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Again, your opinion doesn't beat any of those factors. Sorry, bud. Again, family units aren't gonna save the world. All those issues factor in. Regan economics was a huge one as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/23 12:32 PM
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Buddy, I quoted your own stuff back to you and you couldn't argue it. You're using your emotional bias to substitute factual data. It's boring and I can't argue your personal opinion. It's a moot point.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/23 03:19 AM
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I agree. But I've never had it because it hasn't been regulated.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/23 03:18 AM
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Youre a woman huh? There's a reason the violent crime rate was much lower in the 1950s and early 1960s than any decade following, including today. before they introduced welfare programs which removed fathers from the home, and thus discipline for children. Technically beating and raping your wife wasn't.illegal then. Also, most drugs were legal and often being prescribed. So there's a lot of factors on why the crime rates were low. The whole time education and education opportunity has risen, a…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/23 03:17 AM
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Beautiful opinion piece. Let me know when a scientific magazine publishes it.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/23 03:11 AM
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Again, they believe things like "you don't get pregnant the first time" or "you just don't thrust, just rest there and you won't actually have sex" "anal sex isn't real sex". Etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/23 03:10 AM
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Yeah, so might as well go off the medical expertise.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/23 03:06 AM
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Yeah, I grew up with that. All my friends did. They all had underage, unprotected sex at one point lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/23 02:17 AM
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Okay, then provide that research from an independent, non-Christian funded " scientist". Should be easy.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/23 02:16 AM
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Buddy, they do. But they always think they found a loophole lol
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/23 02:16 AM
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I'm genuinely shocked when people think that unprotected sex with under educated, conservative religious fundamentalists would never happen lmao.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/23 02:14 AM
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I'm not reading that novel tbh. Especially since it's just easily debunked conservative talking points. The proof is in our history. You're asking for proof it works? Go look up the history of female birth control and illegal abortions. Look at female Healthcare in general and where it's lacking. These data points despite the fact that men are SIGNIFICANTLY less likely to find that they've been properly helped by the law Who are they reporting to, bud? Hint: it's not women. And if you're going t…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/23 02:13 AM
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They did though. That's why there's largely universal abortion guidelines created by medical professionals.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/23 01:39 AM
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Mixed backgrounds usually. I knew a jehovahs witness and mormon at my high-school.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/23 01:38 AM
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Mormons literally use "soaking" to have sex in college.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/23 12:45 AM
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Exactly, glad we can agree. Your opinion shouldn't be the deciding factor. Medical professionals should be. And most medical professionals support access to abortions.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/23 11:58 PM
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No. But the problem viability being the deciding factor is that it means personhood depends on what medical tech is available. So you're asking science to be responsible for dictating that. Got it. A baby born prematurely in some rural clinic in Georgia has way worse odds than one born equally prematurely in a state of the art NICU in NYC. So if you think personhood depends on viability, rich people have moral value before poor people. You sure you're ok with that? I'm not. So you only believe i…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/23 11:24 PM
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Okay, can that fetus be it's own person outside the body and survive?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/23 11:15 PM
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In the early stages, they are called a zygote. They then progress to an embryo, fetus, and finally, baby It takes 11 weeks even to be considered a fetus. What is an embryo? Doctors define pregnancy according to the date of a woman’s last menstrual period. The first two weeks of pregnancy are counted as the time prior to ovulation, in which the body is preparing to release an egg. Week #3 begins with release of an egg, or ovulation. If the egg is fertilized by a sperm cell, it is known as a zygot…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/23 11:06 PM
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Science can, actually. Regardless, if you don't want an abortion then don't have one. Problem solved.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/23 10:59 PM
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For hundreds of thousands of years (millions if you count our more archaic cousins) our ancestors have understood and comprehended how sex works. Egyptians literally ate up an entire species of river plants into extinction because it offered birth control benefits. But, you mean to tell me, in the year of our lord 2023, that there are modern humans who don't understand how sex works...just because they have less money than other humans? And this is somehow....okay? Yes. Largely because of religi…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/23 10:05 PM
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I didn't have TV, actually. Most Christian fundamentalists either have heavily monitored internet and TV privileges or none at all. That was certainly the case for us growing up.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/23 10:02 PM
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If you don't like murder, then don't do one. Okay, I'll take out the fetus at 16 weeks old to give to you to raise. It'll be hard since it's a clump of cells but I'm sure you have a scientific way of making life blossom. Condoms are dirt cheap, anyone can afford them. You can just look for spare change on the ground to buy a pack if you have to, they are that cheap. Again, if you can't buy food for the week, how are you going to buy condoms? Lmao. You can tell you've never actually had to live b…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/23 10:01 PM
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That is correct. Lack of sex education did not stop me, or anybody I know who was denied it, from having sex. Guess how many unplanned pregnancies I got to witness because of that? Lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/23 09:58 PM
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Solid incorrect lie. Women are the majority propagates of domestic abuse, and initiate divorce usually because it benefits them because the court system favors women. They are awarded with money and children through no fault divorce while men are screwed over. None of that is correct lmao. And I would love to see your sourcing on that because I know exactly what you're referring to and how easily it's debunked. Youre just lying. The crime rate is intimately tied to single parent households, and …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/23 09:57 PM
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It isn't. My whole point is lack of sexual education creates unplanned pregnancies. And that lack of sexual education doesn't mean people aren't going to have sex lol
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/23 09:01 PM
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Abortion was often paid for by the state, and I have no idea what you're on about. Why because there were less people? More like there were more abortions and unwanted pregnancies. It means less women were trapped in poverty and were able to leave abusive marriages. This is, again, very easily researched and verified. The crime statistics in every following generation diminished because of that factor. We can actually start to see them slowly shift upwards now that abortion isn't legal in a lot …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/23 09:00 PM
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Yup! Because people will still have sex regardless of how much sex education you deny them. Which proves my entire point.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/23 07:51 PM
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You know what else is clearly linked to undue pregnancies? Social welfare programs designed to fund single motherhood like a job. You'd know that if you spent some time researching it. So you get that legalizing abortion did directly reduce the need for social welfare programs then. You'd also be able to find out that access to birth control grows economies and advances societies. It's super easy to verify and it's literally just common sense. Weird that they don't have many children to do it th…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/23 07:50 PM
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I agree. That's why there should be a structured curriculum introduced into schools and resources offered through qualified providers. Glad we can agree!
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/23 07:47 PM
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And denied any access to information that would allow me to educate myself. I was actively shamed for educating myself when I did. And it was super common amongst most Christian families I know.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/23 07:46 PM
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No its not, you are making that up. Around eight-in-ten Republican registered voters (79%) are Christians, compared with about half (52%) of Democratic voters. In turn, Democratic voters are much more likely than GOP voters to identify as religiously unaffiliated (38% vs. 15%). Christian universities do not avoid curriculum like biology. I went to a Christian school. They didn't teach it and it's not mandatory because it's considered a religious exemption. The Christian universities have mandato…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/23 07:45 PM
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Again, I was taught not to educate myself when it came to sexual education. I was told it was dirty and should only be studied in the confines of marriage. And that's not an isolated opinion. Look at most modern Christian fundamentalist influencers. You can quote them on that lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/23 07:37 PM
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The left pushes social welfare programs that encourage out of wedlock births and culturally accepts and celebrates destructive promiscuous behavior and single motherhood. Newsflash: people will have sex regardless of your personal morals. It's pretty clearly linked that proving sex education and affordable family planning severely reduces unplanned pregnancies. This is literally easily verifiable and you're more than welcome to do the research. Conservative communities aren't the ones with an is…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/23 07:36 PM
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What is cheaper, a vasectomy or paying 18 years for a child? Or maybe we need better math education for poor people? Here's a fun accounting term: upfront costs. It costs MONEY people don't have to have a vasectomy. It takes time off work to get one. It takes recovery time if they get a tubal ligation as well. It costs MONEY to buy condoms and birth control. Money people don't have because they can't even afford housing or food. It's genuinely hilarious that you can't even grasp that concept. No…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/23 07:33 PM
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Stop using family planning as a synonym for baby slaughter, it‘s disgusting. That's a you issue. If you don't like abortions then don't have one. The rest of civilized society doesn't care about your religious opinions. Everybody knows how it works. To say poor people get babies cause they don‘t know what a condom is is just disingenuous. Be better. Buddy, this is pretty easy to identify. And I'm saying it's also lack of access to affordable family planning options. That includes the costs of co…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/23 06:42 PM
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That's literally the biggest portion of the Conservative voting party demographic. There's massive Chrsitian universities operating within the USA and Canada. They aren't minorities lol. I know that because I can identify the different denominations and how fundamentalist they are and where they usually tend to stand on sex education.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/23 06:39 PM
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Yes, people are just born with medical knowledge and sex education. Lol Again, if you don't want welfare babies then provide resources and education to not have welfare babies. We literally can correlate more family planning options with healthier economies. Telling poor people they're not allowed to have sex has never worked lmao.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/23 06:33 PM
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I promise you, they aren't. I know plenty of Christian fundamentalists who were intentionally denied the basic information on their own bodies. Nobody even told me what a period was until I was literally having one in the middle of Christian summer camp. I thought I was dying one day because of that lack of education lmao And even then, I've had an oopsie baby after 2 forms of birth control failed. Accidental pregnancies aren't exactly rare and birth control fails quite a bit.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/23 06:32 PM
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My middle class sister-in-law have used the pull out method their whole lives. Their two oopsie babies are adults now. Also, yeah, poor people still have sex despite being poor. This isn't exactly a new realization. It's why the left pushes for accessible birth control options, better sex education opportunities and more education and economic opportunities for the lower income classes overall. If anything, Conservatives policies are ensuring poor people keep having unprotected sex and refusing …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/23 06:17 PM
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Buddy, I grew up Christian fundamentalist in Canada. My parents and the community I grew up in literally took pride in denying their children sex education. I thought the balls and the penis were attached together until I was like 20 years old. Yeah, not everyone knows better.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/23 06:14 PM
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Well, women were legally deemed property through massive portions of our history. Women didn't even get the right to own a credit card until the 1980's. Like, yeah, women weren't exactly given equal footing as men and it shows now that women are able to participate in the trajectory of our own lives.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/23 05:35 PM
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Poor people tend to lack access to sex education, family planning and economic opportunities. It just makes sense that people who don't know how to prevent pregnancy or can't afford to prevent pregnancy (ie, birth control, abortions, condoms, vasectomies or tubal ligation are all expensive if you're on minimum wage) will usually end in a pregnancy as a result. And that's been consistent throughout history. Now you know.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/23 05:33 PM
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Yeah? A lot of gay men aren't settling down either. Lol
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/23 03:08 PM
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Iunno man. Less women are dating men which means more single women overall. That means less women hetero sexual relationships statistically which could accommodate for the 40% difference considering it's a much smaller sample size.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/23 04:31 AM
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Did everyone forget about lesbians existing?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/23 04:29 AM
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You're right. Sometimes it isn't. Thankfully we all know nobody is owed your affection, time or attention just for existing. I agree.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/23 03:49 PM
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Buddy, nobody gives a shit about those things. When you're intentionally cruel or lying about your intentions then people get upset. This isn't rocket science.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/23 01:45 PM
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Single child free women are dedicated their careers and own happiness. Same as single child free men. Or are only men allowed to be selfish with their time, attention and money?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/23 01:24 AM
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Tbh square jaw, minimum 6 feet height, hunter eyes, intact hairline and well-built body these are standard features which are sought after and liked +/- personal preferences. Not my cup of tea but you go for it! I like big noses, big foreheads, glasses, little pot bellies, 5'4 and up preferably (I'm 5'7 for reference) and I like skinny legs. I do like a jawline but not a square one. Like Adrian Brody type looking dude. Mt Sister married a Wish version of Joey Fatone and she adorss him as well. i…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/23 01:06 PM
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Yeah, and we all have our own definition of good looking so thankfully men get a chance when they have a good personality too. Win-win.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/23 12:46 PM
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And this an excellent example of why men make poor leaders. I'll trust the experts over your opinion, thanks!
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/23 09:03 PM
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I’ve never given birth, but that does not mean I am not subject to my own hormones. Everyone has experience there. And I don’t need to give birth to be well versed on the matter (I’m not though). Seeing as most doctors are men and I’m sure you’d trust their opinion wholeheartedly. Everything I've been taught about men is that they only think with their little heads. Does that mean all men are unable to control themselves and need constant supervision so they don't accidentally sexually assault s…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/23 08:15 PM
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You had a baby. Out of the billions that came before it. Your single data point is technically a statistical anomaly. OK, how was your birthing experience? Did you find your maternal instincts blossomed the moment that baby tore your asshole sideways? I'm just wondering what your expertise might be here. Yes it does that’s why we have laws to restrain people’s natural urges. Do you have natural urges for murder people and embezzlement? Nobody is fighting the urge to commit a crime 24/7 bud. I've…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/23 07:54 PM
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I am a human woman who had a baby. I understand how that works, hun. Nature doesn't dictate shit or else abusive and negligent mothers wouldn't be getting their kids taken away lmao Buddy, these dynamics did fall out of the sky. Do you think slavery was organic too? Lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/23 07:42 PM
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Why would it make sense for nature to make women less capable at raising kids than men when women birth them? Is nature some sort of corporation? What is it making us do exactly? Don’t forget in nature days dude has zero responsibility to stick around. Why wouldn’t nature make men become super attached to the women the impregnate if raising the kid was so crucial for him Okay, go live in the woods then and be a part of nature. The rest of society will use common sense and reasoning to progress a…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/23 06:42 PM
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Because children are liabilities. They are like boats. You keep spending money on them. You enjoy them. You are not expecting a return. That's ehy you only get a fine when you damage them. You know, like property. It's only dehumanizing if I'm also not being an asset to her. Did you miss the entire tangent about getting a return based on what you put into it? The difference is you think adding value is the same as "being an asset". It's literally just nuanced terminology that. I get most men won…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/23 05:50 PM
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Asset implies object. I don't call my child an asset so why should I call my partner one? I don't call my friends an asset. My boss does call me an asset though. Ultimately, it's nuanced terminology that doesn't benefit anyone to use. I like my partner adding value to my life but it's not his job to focus on being an asset. There's no monetary equivalent to him providing value to my life. I don't lose ah asset if we divorce. I am just divorced in that case. Iunno, it's just further dehumanizing …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/23 05:32 PM
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Women have always been the main caretakers because they gave birth to the children. That's not true. We see that now that we have the tools to decipher ancient skeletons better. Gender is a new construct. Most ancient civilizations didn't believe in gender roles and uniformed child rearing. . Men are stronger on average because they were the hunters and protectors Women are better when it comes to stamina and survival skills. The ancient hunter and gatherer tribes had a pretty diverse mix when i…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/23 04:16 PM
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Studies show that on average, women are better caretakers than men. Yeah, because we're expected to be from birth. Of course we're conditioned to be better caretakes. It's always been optional for men and largely mandatory for women. This is because women and men’s Brains are built slightly differently. This doesn’t mean that you have to follow this all the time, but on average this will be the case. Every individual brain is built slightly differently. It's not a female vs male issue. It's an i…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/23 04:12 PM
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Well, biologically speaking, the only thing women are better at is breastfeeding and incubating a fetus. My husband is the best father I've ever seen and he's genuinely much more maternal than I am. Same with my brother. There is no biological indication that men make shitty parents. We've just socially conditioned men to think they suck so they might as well not even try. Plenty of dads raised phenomenal children by themselves no problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/23 03:20 PM
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2.Another point- Truth is, women find it hard to accept the fact that they are depreciating assets, so they do all this drama to change the narrative. I did the same to my brother and dad. Of course, I lost the argument while mom is just blue-pilled. Well, last I checked I have a soul and my happiness is not tied to the value others find in me. My husband isn't an asset. He's not an object to aquire and control and neither am I. And having been treated like an asset throughout my entire life and…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/23 03:18 PM
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It's called having "tact". If you are saying "me preference is the only valid preference and you're disgusting if you don't meet my specific criteria" then you're just an asshole. If you go on a date, or get offered one from one and you find out you're not attracted to the other participant, why would you rub it in their face? I've been turned down before and as long as the guy was kind and not an asshole about it, there was no problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/23 02:05 PM
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Ew a human woman
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/23 12:05 PM
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Again, you're arguing niche, tiny little parts of the economy and trying to apply it to every industry. This is a moot argument no matter how you look at it, buddy. It's okay. Maybe that's all you know so you don't know any better. I get it. Stick to the little details so you don't have yo look at the big picture, amiright, hun?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/23 01:17 AM
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My response said it doesn't work for plugging the budget gap, not that I am against taxes. My point was raising taxes works. We've seen it throughout history. Your response to that was "left wing economists say it drops wages so I don't like that". You're literally trying to move the goalpost, buddy. It's okay, I get it. None of your sourcing worked out and now you have to pretend you meant something different. It's a great debate tactic. Your economy will fall because of your fertility rates so…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/23 01:15 AM
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Again, bud, you're avoiding questions and trying to argue semantics. It's okay if you're in over your head!
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/23 01:12 AM
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I mean you can google it. These are mostly for recent grads and many are from ivy leagues. For sure, America has a very divided nation and too wide income disparity. You offered this information. Feel free to supply your sources. Who do you think Apple and Google are hiring exactly? What types recent grads do you think they are lmao?? Again, whose doing the mass layoffs currently? Buddy, you're pointing to anecdotal evidence of one niche industry and trying to apply it to a whole economy. That's…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/23 01:00 AM
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Correct. That is not arguing against taxation lmao That was literally to my response stating taxation works. Don't gaslight me, lmao. I actually sourced a Canadian economist on this. It will be interesting to watch how Canada faces their demographic and economic instability and decline. Again, I explained exactly why our economy is starting to decline and fertility rates are falling and supplied sources. I even quoted your own sources back to you that support that point. You're just trying to ch…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/23 12:58 AM
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I'm sure you can find sourcing on that one then. Lmao Americans: both the ultimate problem and solution for every economic problem apparently. Despite their literal poverty rates being sky high currently. No, Americans are definitely the experts on how to tank a global economy and start a recession.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/23 11:43 PM
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Nobody was arguing against taxation! lol quote me where I argued against any taxation. "Nobody who studies this stuff believes you can lol again, left wing economists admit that people’s incomes will have to decline." I doubt you will honestly. You might get a populist wave against immigrants but you'll need them to plug your budget gap in welfare spending eventually. Canada has really tough choices ahead. I am excited to see how they handle it. Cue another American knowing shit about another in…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/23 11:41 PM
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Yup, I wonder how they got so skilled. Was it affordable education and access to economic opportunities? Hmmmmm....guess we'll never know.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/23 11:35 PM
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Europeans also earn more than their counterparts in the US labour market. Table 5 reports the ''European premium'' which is uniformly positive and significant, ranging from 2% to 16%.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/23 11:13 PM
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You're the one who said that incomes had to increase, not me. So now you admit that incomes will decrease finally? lol The whole point is that incomes will likely have to decrease, not increase. Nope, that was your key argument against increasing taxation, hun. Silly silly goose! Yes, Canada will continue to require more immigration due to their demographic collapse! I am excited to watch. This is exactly what we are discussing. We will see if their grand experiment works. Again, were going more…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/23 11:11 PM
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Buddy, you're out of new, u supportable material and quoting a study from 1999 to support it. I'm out. It's clearly you're a silly willy cant be super serious and understand the fundamentals of global economics. Just answer me this: Do you think trickle down economics works?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/23 11:08 PM
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Bro that is the point! Income declines silly bear lol Your whole point was that income needs to increase! I am telling you that no left economist proposes this because it is impossible given the conditions. Incomes decline across the board and social welfare increases. Oh silly bum, you forgot we don't spend personal money on Healthcare and pay relatively the same in taxes to get massive returns in public goods and services. Ask me how much it cost to give birth in Canada. And most economists wi…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/23 11:03 PM
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IDK if we are "forcing" them to do anything? It is an optional thing to apply for a visa. The fact remains that these people are highly in demand and the visa itself is also high in demand. You're subjecting them to the same economy as your regular workforce. Yeah, it matters lmao. It's primarily tech sure, but that is where the money is where the highest ROI is for companies who sponsor these visas. They are expensive and it's not like Apple is going to sponsor janitors instead. Why would they?…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/23 10:56 PM
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In fact, compared to native workers, immigrants found work 10 days faster, largely because with so much at stake, they were more likely to move states for a new job–but that’s where room to be flexible ends, as visa holders are only permitted to take roles directly related to their specialty training Again, most of these immigrants had to have the funds to move entire states and relocate their entire lives again. So instead of making the economy more hospitable for employees in general, we need …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/23 10:42 PM
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They are already in. Compare Canada wages to American wages for the same job. Google is free. Go for it. Remember to include cost of living standards, location and currency exchange rates! No they are not lol Canada is generally fucked though holy shit. I don't envy you. Your housing market and demo collapse will be monumental. Canada is in a similar situation. Canada's fertility rate currently falls short of the global population replacement level, which stands at 2.1 births per woman. Followin…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/23 10:37 PM
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Again, this is one industry that is having mass lay-offs and in the article even said next year's numbers are unpredictable because of that factor. Meaning, the poor economy is a deterent.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/23 10:33 PM
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Again, there's less supply so the demand is greater. You claim to know math. This is math 101. In the same article it's saying other industries are having a hard time attracting skilled labour, bud.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/23 10:26 PM
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No, they're not. There's just a reduced amount t of visas so the demand is higher as a result. Reread your own source, bud.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/23 10:11 PM
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I agree, declining wages weren't even mentioned until you did. Where are your studies for that then? Also, again, I'm Canadian. Bernie's suggestions are already in practice here. And we pay the same in taxes as Americans do. Our economy faired each depression better and we have a more sustainable economy overall. Ask us about our immigration policies too btw.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/23 10:11 PM
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Yes, I agree. When you're not copying I Medical insurance you can use those hundreds of dollars a month to put into a tax which will set up an affordable and accessible medical system. When you're paying more to education and social rogram to educate kids and keep them off the street you're not paying for incarceration people who are stuck in cycles of drugs and poverty. I'm glad you're finally getting it!
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/23 09:56 PM
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That trend has been fueled by both the low barrier to entry—each registration costs employers just $10 and is simpler than completing a full petition—and the labor crunch for talent in key tech fields. The limited number of visas available each year also means added demand in subsequent registration cycles as companies that lost out in prior years try their luck again. “Employers are struggling to find the talent that they need,” said Noah Klug, an immigration attorney at Klug Law Firm PLLC. “Th…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/23 09:55 PM
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No they just need to pay their fair share in taxes, why is woman paying their share in society so offensive to you? We should just start taxing the babies. That would make more sense since men shouldn't be held accountable for ejaculated and causing pregnancy. This argument have nothing in relation to what you're replying, men contribute a surplux in taxes. Again, how? Sources? Is it just because they don't have the reproductive organs to host a pregnancy? It do not matters if they're getting st…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/23 09:40 PM
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Buddy. Educated immigrants don't want to live in a failing economy.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/23 08:22 PM
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I have a business degree. It's literally macro economics 101
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/23 08:22 PM
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Buddy, again, we do see. You get America today in its current state. You're just in denial because billionaires can afford to market their agenda to idiots and pay political figures (on both sides) to defend their policies.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/23 08:14 PM
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I mean, technically you can. If you have more income to tax then you're able to be taxed more=If you're taxed more you have more money to spend on social goods and services=Cheaper and accessible goods and services means more income because cost of living is down=being able to make more money and afford more goods and services=more taxation on those goods and services=more jobs/money being recycled in local economies=making more money = the cycle repeating. Again, this has been implemented succe…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/23 08:12 PM
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Not necessary, if the woman is a single mother the chances are that the men she rises will be a productive member of society is low and if she raise a daughter is very likely the daughter itself will be a single mother repeating the cycle. Women also aren't having babies so the argument is not failed in multiples sides. So youre saying women make fenale babies who will statistically might also get pregnant?!? How will we stop the cycle of females reproducing while still repopulating the work for…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/23 08:08 PM
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Too bad your opinion isn't a reality. America has a massive immigration issue and it's not because everyone just wants to live there. and America's immigration policies are largely self inflicted because they made these people's home countries so violence ridden by destabilizing their governments for economic gains.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/23 08:03 PM
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Yeah, again, that goes hand in hand with raising minum wage and giving more spending money to percolate in the poorest economies. Either you share the wealth or you hoard it.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/23 08:00 PM
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We do. Americans have literally force mass immigration after destabilizing multiple Spanish governments south of them. You are the result.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/23 07:49 PM
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Yeah, and they have to spend far less as a result. You're getting it!
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/23 07:48 PM
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Buddy, look at their vacation time, their social supports, the access to free amenities and public services, etc. Yeah, they make less but they have more money to also save and to put into retirement. It's, again, calculating if all the extra costs you javelin to pay every day on price gauging food prices, unaffordable medical care, no right to work policies, etc. Is worth the slightly higher income. You're looking at the small potties, essentially.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/23 07:47 PM
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We already know. It's literally not a problem. Crime stats increase whenever populations grow as well but the USA is a better example of the consequences of conservative policies. Reagan is a fantastic example of everything you're suggesting for example!
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/23 07:45 PM
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Wow. I have more questions. What are the exact proposed assigned percentages per income bracket?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/23 07:44 PM
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Okay, what aren't we getting taxed on? Let me know because I still haven't figured it out. Do babies not contribute to the working population? Can men reproduce without children and childbirth? Would love to see the data on that. Also, did women invent STDs and are just hoarding them? Are babies supposed to be born with STDs? I have a lot of questions.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/23 07:41 PM
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Numbeo's crime rates are sketch when it comes to reporting them and including them in standard of living. Even then, America was 16th. Who was higher, bud? https://worldpopulationreview.com/country-rankings/standard-of-living-by-country Again, European socialist countries rated the highest but Canada is still in the top ten. Ask me how mu h I pay intakes compared to Americans.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/23 07:39 PM
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Do you think everyone is being taxed 99% of their income? I think you just don't understand progressive taxation policies at this point.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/23 07:35 PM
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You live in the USA. Which has the lowest standard of living in any first world country. And you've been at that stuff since boomers started enacting their policies. Again, we already know what the conclusion to your theory is. You're living it.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/23 07:33 PM
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Who said that? Quote me? "Real incomes decline. Having higher income means nothing if taxes are increased lol Again, the point is that you can't tax the rich out of this problem. Your "solutions" are not even proposed by anyone because anyone who studies this for more than 4 minutes understands the math. Everyone is going to have less income and more taxes like Bernie suggested." Again, if you have more money to spend then you have more money for taxes which increases your earn able income by al…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/23 07:32 PM
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Buddy, the fact you think none of this is tied together is the problem. You're making an uninhabitable country and you're shocked nobody wants to be there except those who were given false promises of economic prosperity. The reason why nobody wants to have kids is because it's not a society people can live in. Cause=effect. Support billionaires and billionaires will thrive. Support the middle class and the entire economy thrives.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/23 07:30 PM
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Okay, try look at America's statistics first then. They already have the final data on that one. Yay opiod epidemic!!!
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/23 07:15 PM
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Okay. Then don't go to work. Income is a scam. Why pay taxes at all? Clearly there's no benefit. Nobody is saying that lol You don't want any tax increases whatsoever despite the fact you know you will personally benefit. How much do you pay in medical insurance right now? If you don't want to pay taxes then go live in the woods and don't apeticipate in society. You are the one saying that incomes need to increase lol not me... In any left-wing political or economic solution, real incomes actual…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/23 07:15 PM
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Again, the cost will be shifted to the taxpayer. It's going to generally wash. How much do increasing crime rates and a sick working population who can't access affordable Healthcare cost the taxpayer? We will see how Europe manages down the line with their immigration experiment to fix the demo crisis there. Maybe it will work? Who knows. America seems to have a better track record with immigrants though. Literally immigrants are vital to ant economy. Not just for exchange of ideas but also for…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/23 07:13 PM
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Real incomes decline. Having higher income means nothing if taxes are increased lol Okay. Then don't go to work. Income is a scam. Why pay taxes at all? Clearly there's no benefit. Again, the point is that you can't tax the rich out of this problem. Your "solutions" are not even proposed by anyone because anyone who studies this for more than 4 minutes understands the math. Everyone is going to have less income and more taxes like Bernie suggested. We have done it in the past, we see it in actio…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/23 07:10 PM
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Okay, then make babies affordable. Even if you bring immigrants over they still have to pay the local cost of living here. They still need medical care. They can get caught in poverty cycles. Increasing the population doesn't mean shit until you make it a liveable economy.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/23 07:07 PM
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Yes, but you also have more money in which to pay taxes. Again, this is a benefit to the overall economy. You yourself said you want more tax payers. That's literally what you said you wanted. Also, slightly more investment to get things like affordable Healthcare, education, social programs, better roads, more government oversight for safety in workplaces, employment rights, a better military, etc. Then is it costing you more? You know what the number one cause in the USA for bankruptcy was? Me…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/23 07:05 PM
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Again, you don't need a boom. You just need to avoid a collapse. Again, you can't have 99% of your population be retirees. No economic system can handle that. This is actually how many communes fail. Again, if that support is all undereducated crime and drug addicted drains trapped in cycles of poverty, how does that venefit society?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/23 07:01 PM
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All those countries are fucked too with stagnating economies and collapsing demographics. They are currently scrambling for immigrants to fix their budget holes. Guess which way they started leaning towards during economic declines? Lol You can't tax your way out of this. Even Bernie admits that quality of life will decrease and taxes for everyone has to increase. Yeah, you have to spend money to make money. Again, this isn't hard. We all know there's upfront costs to long term gain. Trumps solu…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/23 07:01 PM
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That's not what that research says at all lmao Okay, point out where high, insustainable and undereducated fertility rates was linked to prosperous economies. It's not about an ever expanding pool of babies. You really don't need an ever expanding workforce. It's about having a healthy pyramid that is not top heavy. Again, you can't have 99% of your population be retirees. Again, boomers will be dead before they benefit. Genx and millennial don't need a population boom and can't afford it. Whose…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/23 06:59 PM
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Did what before? We never had the size of our current welfare state. The math doesn't add up lol You can't tax your way out of this. Hey, how did we get here, bud? Why do we have a current welfare state. You're so close. You can do it! It's fine tax them all 100%. You are still back at the original problem in literally 6 months down the road. Actually, the biggest moments of prosperity was due to high taxation rates. Look at Sweden and other progressive European countries for example. They've cl…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/23 06:57 PM
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No, I'm saying through your own research that we shouldn't increase fertility because without educating the workforce and offering economic opportunities, you're tanking your economy. So why would you want to increase fertility knowing that will the eventual conclusion?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/23 06:54 PM
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Buddy, we did it before and we can do it again. This idea that billionaires should even exist is insane. They're not sharing the wealth and most of that money is off shore to boot. Billionaires are doing quite a bit of rebranding though and idiots will believe they're all self made through hard work for some reason. You're not special. And you'll never be one of them. Why even defend them? We know throughout history if you tax the rich the 3conomy prospers. This is just fact.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/23 06:53 PM
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Then what is your point. Your only point is you want to increase the population to support an aging boomer population. Boomers will be dead before they reap that benefit and millennial don't need it. So who is this fertility rate benefitting exactly?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/23 06:49 PM
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It is until your economy matures and develops and then is faced with a demo collapse. Yes, boomers are an excellent example of why you shouldn't undereducated and deny economic support to a population following an aging one that needs all those benefits. It's literally like let's throw more gasoline on the fire at this point. Nobody is arguing for more uneducated and poor desperate low income babies. We have to incentivize educated, and higher income women to have kids. That is why tax credits a…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/23 06:48 PM
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It's just math. It's not the economy as much as it is quality of life in any economic system. Even if you had a commune with 100 people, there is only so much that can be done if 95 of those people are 92 years old. There is no economic system that can sustain the quality of life of a collapsing demographic pyramid. Yeah, boomers sure made a mistake denting every future generation The same economic opportunities and policies that they thrived under. It's almost like there's something that they i…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/23 06:45 PM
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Yes this is correct, and it also has the effect of dropping fertility as your economy grows into a developed one and people urbanize. Which, again, benefits the economy. So it's win-win. Correct, governments will continue to offer social programs that boost fertility of the middle class. And the will likely install childless taxes so the childless will certainly feel the pain. There is already a childless tax considering childless people pay for schools for other peoples kids, we just dont call …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/23 06:39 PM
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Again, we are speaking of fertility. Again, what is the benefit of fertility in a population? For you just want more sex? Again, like Obama - quality over quantity. That is why liberal governments all over the world are incentivizing educated tax payers to have children. They are social engineering, basically. educated tax payers. There you go. If you have educated tax payers what do you get, bud? A better economy. Thank you for finally getting it. Yes, that is social engineering to improve your…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/23 06:33 PM
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No it did not lol Is that why the German population dropped after WW1 when they had to pay national reparations that tanked the economy? The Irish great famine was what? An excellent 3xample of fertility and economic growth right? How did the entire country get out of an economic disparity? Wasn't it by making post secondary education free and accessible? Oh right, yeah, because educating your population means a better economy. No, again, the idea governments are implementing and continue to imp…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/23 06:30 PM
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The most patriarchal societies that shit on mothers the most have the highest birthrates. Which we established in your studies is an indicator of a sub par economy. Again,is that a good thing? The science tells a different story. The numbers tell a different story. You can't escape the math. You're right. Tell me the benefit of increasing a population nobody can afford knowing its going to tank your 3c9nomy when you do?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/23 06:26 PM
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Again, the data suggests that this is short lived. This phenomenon is seen as a result of pregnancy postponement, especially of first births. However, this effect can be short-term and largely compensated for during later times of economic prosperity. The prosperity came before the babies, hun. Using economic shocks and war to suggest generally increasing incomes increases fertility is a bad reading of the data. Don't know what else to tell you. It's just bad economic analysis. Again, even if yo…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/23 06:25 PM
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Again, if people don't have motivation to have kids, can't afford them, have a patriarchal society that suits on mothers (especially single mothers), it doesnt improve the standard of living and often decreases it, and we know all that baby is is another potential facelless wage slave to a future corperation then why would we want them?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/23 06:22 PM
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Yes? Nobody is arguing to ban female education or income lol Iraq is a great example of an entire country banning education and income for women. They used to be a leading example of a progressive society. Most Christian fundamentalist or Religious extremist communities, Muslim extremist communities, people in poverty who expect children to work instead of pursuing post secondary education and help with childcare for overburdened families tend to deny women both those options. Look at the Amish,…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/23 06:20 PM
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You're saying it's good to have more kids over just working to inprove the economy itself before pumping out wage slaves for corperations making record profits and paying the lowest wages in history. If we know it doesn't boost the economy then why do you care?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/23 06:16 PM
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A related concern is that high birth rates tend to place a greater burden of child rearing and education on populations already struggling with poverty. Consequently, inequality lowers average education and hampers economic growth.[22] Also, in countries with a high burden of this kind, a reduction in fertility can hamper economic growth as well as the other way around.[23] Richer countries have a lower fertility rate than poorer ones, and high income families have fewer kids than low-income one…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/23 06:12 PM
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AuThoR’S mAin mESSAgE Three mechanisms influence the fertility decision of educated women: (1) the relatively higher incomes and thus higher income forgone due to childbearing leads them to want fewer children. The better care these women give increases their children’s human capital and reduces the economic need for more children; (2) the positive health impacts of education, on both women and their children, mean women are better able to give birth and children’s higher survival rate reduces t…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/23 06:11 PM
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What am I getting from the government? Don't I pay taxes on tampons while men get prescribed viagra tax free? Is there a card I need to show? Are there only some roads only women are allowed to use?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/23 06:08 PM
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Buddy, that's one of the things I encourage to help improve people reproducing. A liveable wage. How did they get it? By coming together as a collective group to negotiate en masse to unionize instead of fighting for individual rights. Its one of the key examples of Marxist philosophy. Unionize the workforce for communal gain. You're just proving my point. That's exactly what people should be doing. Thank you.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/23 06:06 PM
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Yeah, they unionized and it's at the end of a 5 year contract. What's unionizing again? Isn't that...gasp...socialist*** ?!?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/23 05:59 PM
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I'm just pointing out that any time we see population booms throughout history it's do to many if not all of the following reasons: Taxed the wealthy their fair share Provided ample social services to families for support and family planning Supported the growth of the middle class Increased government oversight of banking regulations and lending policies Increased educational standards Invested in medical care and offered cheap/affordable solutions Took issues like climate change and internatio…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/23 05:58 PM
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Many people in the postwar era looked forward to having children because they were confident that the future would be one of comfort and prosperity. In many ways, they were right: Corporations grew larger and more profitable, labor unions promised generous wages and benefits to their members, and consumer goods were more plentiful and affordable than ever before. As a result, many Americans felt certain that they could give their families all the material things that they themselves had done wit…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/23 04:44 PM
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None of what you said makes sense when the poorest least educated and unhealthiest women tend to have the most children. Yeah, that's due to a lack of education and opportunities for a lot of those women. I know plenty of women with big families and stable relationships too. Most don't have the funds or support to pursue post secondary. The poorest and most unhealthy women still have the most babies. Again, a lack of opportunity and access to education and social resources. Of course these women…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/23 04:39 PM
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Okay, or we can make children more affordable so everyone can have them instead. Ie, not having to dedicate ~75% of your income to housing costs. The unregulated food and gas prices constantly skyrocketing. Daycare is an entire paycheck and competitive to get into. Medical care and sick days are scarce and largely unaffordable. No social services and high infant mortality rates for American minority women is also an issue. As a Canadian, I got free house calls for the first month after my daught…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/23 04:08 PM
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Where do the taxes off my paycheck go? Am I not supposed to be paying taxes? What?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/23 04:01 PM
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Iunno, we say hi sometimes on Instagram but as long as they're happy, I'm happy. No hard feelings imo.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/23 03:14 PM
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I grew up alongside wealthy, entitled men. Hard pass.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/23 12:29 PM
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Do you know how many men think foreplay is optional? Or that women orgasming is a myth? Or that women don't even like sex? Like, what? You're just telling on yourself when you post things like this lmao.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/23 11:27 AM
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Considering most custody cases are settled amicably in mediation, that just further reflects on men when they're absent. Men are more likely to get custody when they actually apply for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/23 06:14 PM
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I've worked in blue collared jobs my whole life. I'm currently in construction still under the home warranty department. I know it's easier to work construction than be a stay at home parent. It's also more rewarding and there's far more social benefits than being stuck at home babytalking for 24 hours a day. Also, even getting into construction/mechanics/business was a struggle. Almost nobody paid a fair wage, there was a struggle even to get hired as sexism is rampant including with hiring pra…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/23 06:03 PM
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Cool, I find working to be much more rewarding and enjoyable than parenting. How did you feel about the hourly breastfeeding pumping schedule? How was your post pregnancy recovery? Multiple kids? Any health issues for said kids? Any PPD? And yeah, not everyone wants to be a stay at home parent. I hated being the primary stay at home parent. It's different for everyone. A lot of the women complaining about these men don't have an equitable partner to help them. There's a really good post about a …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/23 05:52 PM
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True, but there are women out there who will settle with someone they find unattractive because they want the money more. It happens all the time. So do a lot of men. Look at Kelly Clarkson's divorce or Britney Spears' recent break up. Gold digging is not a gender specific issue or entirely that common. Nobody is out here trying to wiggle their way into a middle class lifestyle. If you want a man to play the “dad” role and provide and protect them that’s ok, you just need to play the “mom” role …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/23 04:23 PM
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. If the man is making enough that the woman doesn’t have to work, they should be able to afford a babysitter once or twice a week for the parents to have me time and go on a date or whatever. And if the stay at home parent needs a night or weekend away, then that also should be factored in. This isn't a gender specific issue. It's a primary earner versus a stay at home parent division of labour and recreational time issue. The dad says ok thanks for telling me, and takes some money out of savin…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/23 04:16 PM
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I did no problem. Most women will as well. Can a gay man buy your physical affection? Would you do it for a woman you were physically repulsed by? This idea that women can both be too picky with men but simultaneously able to shut off attraction at the mere mention of a consistent paycheck (that there's no guarantee will even support them) is insane. Men are capable, intelligent creatures. If someone is incompatible with you lifestyle then don't date them. Easy.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/23 04:11 PM
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While it would be simple manners for the guy to take care of it, I feel the picking up clothes and taking back the dishes is a small price to pay for having to never have a job again. Most women are employed. Especially in this economy. If you're the stay at home partner, you should obviously carry more of the domestic labour but kids are also a 24/7 job too. Making both partners have access to equal down time is key regardless of employment status.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/23 04:07 PM
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I'll share my own story with opiates. I was engaged to my now husband when I got into 2 car accidents where my spine was severely damaged. I requested specifically not to be put on opiods because I hate them. I don't have a great reaction to them and the side effects aren't worth the effort imo. My doctor prescribed me a "stronger advil" to manage my pain plus muscle relaxers. I began to use them consistently and because of my severe depression I never looked into my medications and nobody menti…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/23 11:03 PM
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As a Canadian woman who visited Australia, I didn't want guys to buy me free drinks there anyways. Where I'm from in Canada, we'd buy each other drinks and there would be no expectations beyond that. We'd use it as an opportunity to socialize and get to know somebody new. Occassionally something romantic might happen but there was largely no sexual expectations if a man bought you a drink and you accepted. That being said, if a man bought me a drink and if they weren't absolutely creeps (ie, sex…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/23 04:40 PM
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Then go date an older man. You do you, boo.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/23 03:56 PM
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Sure, hun.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/23 03:50 AM
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I'm literally married, bro. Been with my husband for over 13 years. Being in a relationship didn't cure his depression and low self esteem, hun. Going to therapy and self improvement did.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/23 03:50 AM
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You can literally buy that. Therapy offers empathy, kindness, compassion and companionship. Getting a hobby does the same thing. Go find a social group to join. What exactly are you missing by having a girlfriend that will magically cure your depression? Also, do you think it's healthy to burden your partner with your entire mental health load and refusing to do the work yourself? How can you genuinely have a healthy relationship while refusing to develop the emotional intelligence not to share …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/23 01:35 AM
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Choose to be pedantic because is unable to grasp basic concepts like the fact that 1 happening with a small%chance is a excuse to be a horrible human being. I agree. Red pillers should really have more empathy considering that belief you just shared. I don't hate all men because a few assaulted me throughout my lifetime. I have lots of male friends and family members that I am close with and I trust to even look after my daughter. Just because men can be a threat doesn't mean they all are. But i…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/23 01:32 AM
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Isn't this the same sub that says women denying them sex is why men kill themselves?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/23 11:43 PM
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I've found 5$ in a bench once, this means that I can leave my job and live by getting money out random places right? Did the $5 corner you in an alley and beat the shit out of you giving you PTSD as a result? So the men they choose? Those weren't rejected, in fact, the oppose. I got stalked by a man on the bus who commented on my purse in high-school. We said like 5 sentences total to each other before he watched where I got off at my stop and followed me home. Cue a year of death threats and st…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/23 10:36 PM
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I mean, I have been assaulted and stalked unrpovoked by random men before. I don't know many women who haven't.Obviously I haven't been murdered yet. I do personally know a few women who were murdered by abusive partners when they tried to leave. One woman is still missing while her exbf (the only suspect who made public threats about making his ex disappear) walks free. Do men not realize this is almost a universal experience for women yet?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/23 09:13 PM
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Yes, because the first ever crime was only recorded after women got the right to vote. Lmao. This made me laugh. Thank you!
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/23 08:22 PM
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Okay here's your answer: No, I don't care. I don't feel like I need to control somebody else's affections or friendships. My own husband's included. If they're the right person for me then we'll have similar boundaries when it comes to both those things. If not, we weren't compatible and it was doomed to fail regardless of my feelings on the matter. Conclusion: I'm not in high-school and don't feel obligated to control my crush's affections because I can't regulate my own emotions.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/23 07:57 PM
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How would you like me to answer then?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/23 06:54 PM
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I did. I don't know what answer you want from me aside from: it doesn't bother me and I admire people who seek out meaningful relationships and emotional support.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/23 06:50 PM
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I answered you with my real life experiences. Of course I am fine with someone I like getting emotional support when they ask for it. Of course my male friends offer that same emotional support to me. That's why they're my friends.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/23 06:46 PM
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https://www.nytimes.com/2019/11/27/us/chicago-college-student-killed-catcall.html#:~:text=CHICAGO%20%E2%80%94%20The%20young%20college%20student,garage%2C%20prosecutors%20said%20on%20Tuesday.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/23 06:44 PM
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I have male friends. I give them hugs and they ask for hugs when they need it. My male friend's closest friend tried to commit suicide and he was tearing up at work. I offered him a hug and he took it because he needed that support at that time. Everybody does sometimes. At no point do I feel like he wanted more than emotional support and at no point has it ever crossed a boundary. My husband knows, so does his wife and they also hug their opposite sex friends too. And if a guy I really liked ne…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/23 06:41 PM
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Ok but it sounds like you both just have bad communication. I asked if you asked him why he didn't meet your needs or better yet what would he need to do so and it just sounds like neither of you really talks to the other. He doesn't think I have bad communication. He has told me I was patient, kind, clearly communicated my needs and that I did my due diligence. This wasn't miscommunication at all. He just didn't care. He has been very upfront about that now that I told him I needed these things…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/23 06:38 PM
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And I quoted it back to you. Does your opinion piece double as scientific data now?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/23 06:29 PM
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Okay, then expect to hear more stories about women getting assaulted when they reject men.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/23 06:28 PM
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Oh cool, can you find data the proves married women aren't miserable shouldering the majority of the domestic load? I'll wait.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/23 06:24 PM
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You commented on a response to another poster entirely. You clearly want to be included in the conversation, bud.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/23 06:23 PM
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I just quoted it back to you, so yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/23 06:19 PM
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It's all in the article you supplied, bud.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/23 06:18 PM
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Then don't ask and don't question why women prioritize their safety over your emotions.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/23 06:17 PM
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Don't have to. Ask any woman about their experiences. Most of the time we don't walk about it because we get men in literal disbelief at sheer magnitude of shit we have to deal with when we reject a man. Of course you don't want to hear it.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/23 05:42 PM
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Absolutely. Lol
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/23 05:35 PM
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Yeah, he recognized the error, accomodated for it and fixed it going forward. If you don't like that then boy do i have some news for you about scientific advancements.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/23 05:35 PM
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Sure, bud. These aren't isolated experiences Most women I know has had this happen at least once or twice. And statements like yours are why we can't talk about it. We lose because we're assaulted. We lose when we protect ourselves against the assaults. And we lose when we talk about the assaults. This is why I will always prioritize my safety over men's emotions.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/23 05:34 PM
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How are these stats about women's workload gathered? Self reported? I think both partners typically have skewed persepctives. Google isnfre but most of the data is self reported. As in, the husband's are telling on themselves. Statcan js a great resource as it is a mandatory nation wide survey that touches on work life balances within families. But feel free to look it up for yourself. It's not exactly an isolated conclusion. Yea a vasectomy is totally no big deal at all. I offered to further be…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/23 04:05 PM
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I've had the police literally watch an assault in progress and drive away I've tried reporting and they wouldn't even take a statement.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/23 04:00 PM
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Women are free to reject what they want, men are not entitled to sex and women are not entitled to male protection or resources or friendship or help either. We know that. That's why we don't give a shit what you think about how we approach our safety. If more men gave a shit then maybe more women would be open to being approached. Instead, we get this feedback and we just nod our heads and go "cool, way to confirm the obvious". For the record, a man has never interfered when I was in trouble. O…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/23 03:59 PM
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I got slapped in the face in the middle of a crowded bar while the bartender and bouncer made eye contact with me and did nothing. My crime? Telling a complete stranger I didn't want to give him a bj in the alley. My husband literally had tried to flag down cops because some roid rage bouncer was choking out a drunk woman asking to use the bathroom in a Shwarma shop and he didn't like her asking more than twice. Literally in the middle of the street and the cops just drove by. I've been grabbed …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/23 03:57 PM
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No, hotness doesn't negate assaulting someone. Are there crazies out there who fall in love with serial killers? Sure. But that isn't exactly a female trait either. Karla Homolka and Casey Anthony would be a excellent examples of idiots pursuing bad people for example. And fantasies are fantasies for a reason. Just because someone watches football or wears their favourite sports teams jersey doesn't mean they want to be tackled in the street by a stranger.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/23 03:54 PM
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Are women assaulting/murdering/stalking men en masse when they reject them? Just curious what those stats look like.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/23 03:50 PM
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Dolan confirmed to me by email, “We did indeed misinterpret the variable. Some surveys do code whether people are present for the interview but in this instance it refers to present in the household. I have contacted the Guardian who have amended the piece and my editor so that we can make the requisite changes to the book. The substance of my argument that marriage is generally better for men than for women remains.”
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/23 03:37 PM
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So you're saying the men are typically the first ones to check out. I don't think that's the case. I think both parties check out together. I don't think all men do this but yeah. For example, my husband promised to get a vasectomy after our daughter was born. He watched me try every birth control on the market. And I suffered severely. Then we had some pregnancy scares and he kept promising the vasectomy. He went on trips and weekends away with his friends. He had boys nights out regularly. He …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/23 03:19 PM
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Yeah, of course. Because alot of men will assume women can live with a tolerable amount of unhappiness. While their wives and partners are taking care of kids, cleaning and working to help support the family, the men have checked out. My marriage is in this situation right here. I communicated my needs, I was patient, I offered support, I asked for an iota of the same effort I put in and nothing. The moment I said " I can't live like this anymore. It's been 13 years of promises and no delivery. …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/23 02:42 PM
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Why does any abuse victim stay?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/23 02:23 PM
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He's emotionally and verbally abusive so don't be.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/23 12:08 PM
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Buddy, most women withdraw affection because they're exhausted working 24/7 with a partner who doesn't help. I know those women. Their love and affection didn't fade overnight. They stopped when their partners didn't step up. Are there some assholes that bait and switch? Absolutely. But women don't hate sex. We just need to feel an emotional connection to do it. If you're not providing that then don't expect sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/23 12:07 PM
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Yeah, so trial and error it. We all did it. your turn!
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/23 04:33 AM
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Buddy, everyone has gone through this. You're not special. Nobody is going to hand you social skills on a silver platter. That would be insane.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/23 02:16 AM
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You just don't want to do the hard work everyone else has done. It's fine. Just expect to be alone if you don't.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/23 02:11 AM
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Yes and you learn social cues through practicing skills that enhance your emotional intelligence. You're right. This isn't hard.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/23 02:07 AM
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Then give pay someone to teach you how to recognize basic social cues. What is so hard about this?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/23 01:57 AM
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No, it's literally just emotional intelligence. That's literally the only way to flirt. You can gain it through other social interactions or lay a therapist to help. Your choice.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/23 01:52 AM
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Cool, so if you see someone in a wheelchair do you cripple your own legs in solidarity?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/23 01:50 AM
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Yeah, it points to a grammatical error which slightly skews the data based on publicly available research. It basically says take it with a grain of salt and that Dolan got lucky that the data he analyzed was based off of public information.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/23 01:50 AM
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Better social skills=men being better at recognizing flirting specifically. This is like point A=Point B scientifically speaking.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/23 11:30 PM
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As a married woman, I was definitely happier single. Please provide the sourcing for your claims.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/23 10:39 PM
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Sure, they can get better by practicing non-flirtatious social interactions. By communicating and asking questions. I find therapy to be incredibly productive. Ask friends for feedback and support and listen to their advice. Learn to say no to advice that doesn't seem productive or bigoted/sexist/harmful. Like, ugly people have sex all the time. This idea that everyone is only pairing up with perfect specimens is wild.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/23 10:38 PM
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That's largely self-inflicted. I grew up in the early 2000's and nobody was pressuring men to lose their v-cards except other men really. The odd asshole teenage girl would probably chime in but that's teenagers in general. I also got hassled at that age for not having sex as a teenage girl too. I think being so susceptible to peer pressure to the point where tou have sex you don't even want to have is far more problematic than telling someone you regret having sex with half your partners. That'…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/23 10:36 PM
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Well, sexual harassment isn't the same as flirting so there's also that.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/23 08:22 PM
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I do understand: it's a lack of emotional intelligence. Nobody is surprised about the fact some men don't understand flirting and normal societal boundaries. We are just surprised that these same men won't actually do anything themselves to improve their own situations. I guess it's not surprising the older you get to be fair.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/23 08:21 PM
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However every situation isn’t as white and black as that one and you can’t really blame men for not being able to distinguish since you said yourself flirting is random from person to person and anything can or can’t constitute flirting. You're right. Again, this is where emotional intelligence becomes relevant. Because every situation is different and there's no right answer. Because every person on this planet is an individual with different preferences, opinions, turn on and turn offs, etc. T…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/23 08:08 PM
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Nope, he's welcome to express how he feels but that doesn't make it any less problematic. Even if you were to reverse the genders it would still be problematic. Having sex for clout is problematic behaviour for the vast majority of people.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/23 08:02 PM
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I think if you feel the need to be honest about this, you should. Because it'll definitely warn a woman what to expect with you and clearly that is a whole lot of regret.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/23 07:55 PM
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Yuuuup. I have to ask permission just to do my hobby. It has to have a designated time and place. People suck sometimes.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/23 07:52 PM
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I'm not changing the subject. I'm just pointing out nobody has a manual on how to flirt and the only way to decipher it is by developing some emotional intelligence. For example, a service worker begins to flirt with you while serving your meal. Do you: A) Flirt back and wait around until they're off work to ask for her number. B) Have fun flirting back but just leaving it as just that. C) assume that is their job and that they're trying to get a good tip by being personable and flirtatious. Or …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/23 07:51 PM
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I just did. I asked out my husband and. I provided the exact language I used. And, again, what scientific method do all men use to flirt? Tell me how you'd describe how all men express they are interested in a romantic relationship. What are the guaranteed, obvious, concrete, consistently used tactics that ALL men use to flirt.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/23 07:19 PM
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Emotional intelligence (EI) is most often defined as the ability to perceive, use, understand, manage, and handle emotions. People with high emotional intelligence can recognize their own emotions and those of others, use emotional information to guide thinking and behavior, discern between different feelings and label them appropriately, and adjust emotions to adapt to environments.[1] As in, practicing situational awareness, empathy, self regulation, self awareness, social skills and personal …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/23 07:13 PM
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We get blamed if men act poorly so of course we're going to protect ourselves. So many of you play devil's advocate that we can't tell who the real devil's are anyways. I got blamed on this sub for being vulnerable to an abusive partner. Men on this sub regularly blame women for simply not picking the perfect partner despite knowing these men are the problem, not the victims of these men. So don't tell us to choose better and then get hurt when you don't make the cut because you're spouting off …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/23 07:10 PM
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So you get it then. You understand there is no scientific method to distinguish flirting then? Good, there's your answer.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/23 07:04 PM
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Okay, what do men do to distinguish they're flirting then? What is the scientific research that guarantees any woman will know a man is flirting with her and not just being a good friend.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/23 07:01 PM
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Cool, then set those boundaries. I do with my girl friend's all the time. Everyone is different. Thanks for sharing!
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/23 07:00 PM
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I didn't. I said everyone flirts differently. And most men have no problem differentiating the two. The exception being those men who've never developed emotional intelligence skills.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/23 06:51 PM
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It is. If women/the gays/the asexuals/men with emotional intelligence have no problem distinguishing flirting from friendships then why do so many straight men have such a hard time, bud? How come red pillers are the entire exception to the rest of the human race?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/23 06:46 PM
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I know what you mean. My husband is anal about chores and cleaning. I am okay with a little bit of mess (I was actually a clean freak growing up) but if I don't put the dishes away exactly how he likes them, he blows up. Same with the table clothe. Or if I wait to do something or I'm in the middle of something else, he wants me to drop everything to focus on whatever he wants done. It is exhausting.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/23 06:44 PM
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A lot of men wait until the woman is trapped legally, financially or with children before withdrawing from their domestic duties. Plus, it was normal for my dad growing up to never loft a finger while mom and the daughters did everything. Indoctrination starts young.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/23 06:35 PM
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We don't. I have turned men down and they were respectful and kind and we continued the friendship no problem. A lot of men will interpret that rejection as a challenge or an opportunity to negotiate or just throw a tantrum and lash out. Of course we're going to be creeper out by that behaviour. Again, not rocket science.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/23 06:33 PM
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Again, how do men flirt? Are they all the same? Is there one manual for all men? How come you're not confident enough to flirt if there is only one clear, acceptable way to flirt? People (women included) are all individuals. I can't speak for all women the same way you can't speak for all men, bud. This isn't rocket science.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/23 06:25 PM
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I was a virgin until I was 20/21 and then it was ~2-3 months without sex as I met my now husband at the tail end of 21 and he's been consistent except for the ocassional long distance bouts dur to work/school.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/23 06:22 PM
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I just answered your question. You just don't like the answer or the fact that not everyone communicates (or flirts) the same way. I know women who flirted like dudes with light shoulder punches and just basically stalking their love interests. I know women who enjoy being chased the little romantic nuances that come with it. I know women who just will ask the man out upfront. And I know men who do all those things too. There is no one way to flirt. There is no distinct behaviour that I can poin…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/23 06:18 PM
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Okay, what does it look like for men? Flip that, add boobs and a vagina and then reapply it. There you go.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/23 06:09 PM
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Okay, "I like you. Do you want to go on a date sometime?". Or was that too obvious?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/23 06:07 PM
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I'm saying men are just as attention seeking. And I would lump you in with those men considering how you've expressed your views on women. I wouldn't put it past any red pill man to throw a tantrum over rejection. I don't think a lot of red pillers are capable of developing their emotional intelligence to be honest. If they were, they wouldn't be a red piller to be honest.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/23 06:02 PM
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You don't have to read our minds. We are literally telling you right now that wr aren't going to change our definition of friendship to meet the subpar standard of men's friendships. And I asked my husband out originally. He never got confused once because I literally just told him "I liked you, do you want for go on a date with me?". Like, if you don't know, just ask in a respectful and kind manner. If you're going to lash out and be bitter because you don't like the answer then that woman is g…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/23 06:00 PM
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Buddy, I've had men scream in my face about how I'm a bitch/c*nt/stuck up because I wouldn't drop everything I was doing to have a conversation with them. And all their friends supported that behaviour to boot. Men can be the most attention seeking assholes on the planet. The red pill is literally an entire movement about how women aren't paying enough attention to men lmao. So no, you're just projecting because you want to blame someone else for your poor behaviour. Assholes exist, that's no ge…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/23 05:58 PM
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Newsflash: we don't give a shit. We get shit on if we treat men like they treat each other and we get shit on if we try and demonstrate the friendships we enjoy to men. At this point, this is just a "you problem" and you need to develop your emotional intelligence to realize you can't control other people and how they express their friendships. If you don't like it then don't be friends with those people.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/23 05:53 PM
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I hold my girl friend's hands sometimes or hug them occassionally. I take an interest in them and what they have to say. I offer emotional and verbal support. I give them gifts for special occasions or just because I'm thinking about them. I send them funny memes/jokes/thoughts throughout the day. I asked them about their struggles and check in to offer support. I give them compliments and make sure they know they look good and try and boost their confidence. I plan special events like birthday …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/23 05:51 PM
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No, it is. So many men refuse to work on their emotional intelligence so any sort of non-toxic communication gets labeled as flirting. And even if it is some asshole looking for attention (which isn't a gender specific trait btw) you are still just as capable in setting up healthy boundaries in your relationships as women. If it makes you uncomfortable then communicate that discomfort. If they don't stop the behaviour and it's escalating then remove yourself from the friendship.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/23 05:47 PM
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Again, all those things they described in the post women do to each other. Also, if you don't like it then set up healthy boundaries so you don't get roped into it. That's also part of friendships.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/23 05:44 PM
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Again, giving you a compliment isn't flirting. I don't think my boss is flirting with me when he tells me I did a good job. I don't think my friend is flirting with me when she tells me I look nice today. I would argue it's toxic to be such a negative influence on your friends and family where you intentionally misinterpret very obvious human bids for connection as "flirting".
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/23 05:32 PM
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See, when women say these things, we don't just target men. Men think they're deserving of hoarding this concentrated positive attention from women. The reality is we say it to everyone and we don't differentiate. We're not leading you on, we are just trying to be good examples of what a non-superficial friendship looks like. I don't assume a woman is hitting on me because she complimented my dress. And when women do hit on me, it was absolutely more direct and very definitively flirtatious. Men…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/23 05:30 PM
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No, you are misinterpreting our friendships. Other women can figure it out. Lesbians and gay men have no problem differentiating the two. It's almost like there's one outlier here and it's not women.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/23 05:27 PM
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I don't understand this run on sentence.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/23 05:24 PM
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Statistically, if we're in relationships we are unhappy. Single and career driven are the happiest demographics for women.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/23 05:23 PM
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You're right. If men can't respect how women show their friendships then they shouldn't be friends with women. I treat my male friends the same way I treat my female friends. They get compliments, I take an interest in their accomplishments and personal goals, I uplift them, i discuss their problems with them and offer emotional support, etc. This is how women treat friendships. If that is too much for you to handle then don't be friends with women.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/23 05:23 PM
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Yeah, but saying "you look handsome today" or "I like that red shirt on you" are things we say to our friends. Men just think any positive comment is flirting because their friendships don't incorporate uplifting each other that way. It's not rocket science, bro.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/23 05:21 PM
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Nah, fam. I just grew up watching these marriages implode. I know how this song and dance goes. Red pulill just doesn't involve religion to do it lmao.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/23 05:19 PM
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Buddy, I fish for compliments with my female friends all the time. To be fair, most times we just offer compliments to each other so we don't have to usually fish alot. What's being fileted with btw?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/23 04:57 PM
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So many men mistake friendship for romantic interest. I act the same way I do with my guy friends as I do with my girl friends. Just because your guy friendships are superficial and not intimate doesn't mean women have to change how they approach friendships. Get over yourselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/23 04:56 PM
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And so do car accidents, depression, medical issues, hormonal issues, etc. I used to think like you until seven different assholes hit me with their cars over a 10 year period and made me bed ridden for like 3 years. Life happens. And your organs are literally displaced for a minimum 4 years after child birth. Some people lose teeth and hair, some get ripped from end to end (my sister had over 20 stitches from tearing after her birth). Muscles get cut up during c-sections and never recover too. …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/23 04:40 PM
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Yeah, like, of course women are pickier these days. We actually have the opportunity to be pickier now and have any standards beyond "is he a good provider?". Also, I do find it funny because half the red pill posts are admonishing women for not having standards for men and blaming them when men mistreat them. The other half is saying women have to high of standards and it's our fault we're alone. Like, pick a lane lmao.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/23 03:46 PM
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Buddy, we don't watch how you just treat us. We watch how you treat everybody. That kind of vitriol and lack of emotional intelligence is the biggest turn off for any woman. And that 20 year old modest woman who you put on a pedestal has to age, might get pregnant one day and ask for an equal partnership in raising said kids when she realizes the propaganda that "woman works at work and then comes home to work" isn't the utopia men have made it out to be. Then your formerly 20 year old perfect n…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/23 03:23 PM
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You're right. We are spoiled. We finally have the option to just be alone and be happy instead of settling for an unhappy relationship. It's truly been a blessing.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/23 03:17 PM
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Nope, not what I said at all. I said red pillers hate women and we will be able to tell eventually no matter how hard you try and hide it. Nobody can talk about another human being that way and still convincingly pretend you love them.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/23 03:16 PM
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Even if men raise their standards, women won't date you. We just don't want someone who hates us a partner. You can try and hide it, but eventually your utter disdain for women will creep out and your partner will notice.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/23 12:47 PM
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Buddy, my whole point is that all the men in my life already do the emotional legwork to maintain their interpersonal relationships. That's how I know they are capable of it without being in a romantic relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/23 09:02 PM
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I grew up Christian fundamentalist. All these young bride and grooms I got to witness in my late teens, early 20s are largely on their second marriages now. Marriage isn't mandatory to live a fulfilling life and we need to stop pretending like the solution to all our problems is sex and a relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/23 06:57 PM
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I'm saying a lot of men will goose their female partners. I've had it happen unprovoked and inrequested. I know plenty of women who've also experienced it lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/23 05:31 PM
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Not for me. I prefer less than 10 partners. I've only ever had 2 and I'm mid-thirties so I feel like that's not unreasonable.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/23 04:47 PM
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Women everywhere would be dropping dead then. Lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/23 04:46 PM
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I chose the wrong partner and it taught me it's better to be alone than suffer in a toxic relationship. Also, have you tried building up those relationships around you so you're not alone? A lot of guys put absolutely no effort into any relationship, (family, friends, or partner even) and then they expect this magical wife to come in and gift them all this emotional intelligence they spent years creating and maintaining. And then those partners get sucked dry because they're compensating for the…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/23 04:00 PM
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I met my husband through friends. They introduced us at a party. Most of my exes were the same. If my friends can vouch for you then I am more comfortable getting to know you.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/23 03:34 PM
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I mean, red pillers do but not everyone is as vocal about their views on relationships and women.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/23 03:10 PM
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Cool, I've also been mugged at knifepoint (I'm Canadian but this was in Europe so guns aren't as big a factor). I'm also not scared of that and I do find it ridiculous as well. However, are you constantly being mugged? Threatened with muggings? Do people use muggings to control your romantic relationships? Do your parents raise you to always fear muggings and just protect yourself just in case? Did the police believe you when you reported your mugging? Did your friends and family tell you that y…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/23 05:24 PM
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Oh, you mean finding out if we are fundamentally compatible and have communal life goals that won't cause conflict during stressful times in the relationship? Yes, that would be common sense. I don't commit to a partner until I know we have enough in common that I can see a long term relationship with them. Why wouldn't you do that if you intend to eventually get engaged, get married and possibly raise a family together? I don't get why this is such a hard concept for some men. You could be Brad…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/23 05:13 PM
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Men are more likely to engage in aggressive behaviour in general. They'll challenge other men a lot of times. The assaults on women are often unprovoked. That's just a statistical fact. So yeah, it is a rational fear. I've almost been run over, I've been stalked, I've been physically hit, I've been verbally abused, etc by men who didn't handle a simple "no thank you" with dignity and respect. So despite your optimistic opinion, I will stick with my lived experience because being cautious and mak…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/23 05:08 PM
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Ever turned down a guy and they immediately got physical? Most women have experienced that. It's specifically why women can't be honest with men. We can't trust that you're not going to harm us. And we know #NoTaLlMeN but that doesn't mean the one time we trust that we can be honest that it won't be a death sentence. It just takes one.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/23 05:01 PM
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We are aware. We know what we find attractive, what the "ick factor" means, etc. This idea that women aren't whole people capable of reason and introspection is just some weird red pill nonsense to justify crossing our boundaries. We know what we want. And it's not you. The issue is that men think they can negotiate sexual attraction when it was never there to begin with. A lot of red pillers think that you can harrass a woman into submission and dominate the relationship and that's the criteria…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/23 04:58 PM
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I'm sure your mom does every day.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/23 05:16 AM
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Yes. I'm also getting my tubes tied. I'm killing any potential children by de facto by your same logic.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/23 04:19 AM
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Honestly, no. It's a healthy relationship and career driven over married and miserable with no financial means of leaving. I say that as a married mother with a career.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/23 01:21 AM
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I'd rather be employed and divorced than unemployed and married.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/23 11:50 PM
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Canada: While the vast majority of females are victims of sexual assaults, an even higher percentage of males are the accused in these crimes. The 2002 Uniform Crime Reporting Survey showed that a larger proportion of 97% of accuseds in sexual assault cases were male, than males accused in all other types of violent offences (82%). Ibid. at 7..) USA: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sex_differences_in_crime Globally: https://www.unodc.org/unodc/en/data-and-analysis/global-study-on-homicide.html T…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/23 08:32 PM
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Most rapists are people you know. And a lot of those men are telling other men at the very least how they treat women. And a lot of rapes start as rape threats. I mean, have you ever even been sexually assaulted before? Its not all complete strangers pulling you into alleyways. A lot of times it's dudes who people will tell you to "ignore because he's joking and obviously he doesn't mean it".
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/23 08:18 PM
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How about 30 with dick pics and notes about how they're going to find out where you live and rape you?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/23 08:10 PM
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Do men wlecome sexually aggressive and persistent attention from other men then?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/23 07:56 PM
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Well, women aren't the predominant aggressors in 96% of murder and assault cases so there's also that factor that needs to be acknowledged.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/23 07:55 PM
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Because like anything that fails before it starts, you mourn the potential, not what it is in its current state. I don't tell people I have an art degree because I painted a picture once. I can still mourn that experience I never got to have though.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/23 03:56 PM
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Good thing it was just a clump of cells then!
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/23 03:05 PM
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? Envision a scenario in which the man would be willing to have a child with the woman, but the woman would not be willing to have a child with the man: why is the burden of abstinence on the man, in that case? Isn't that the basic point of the original post in this thread? I do t have to envision it. That was me. I was upfront and told my now husband from day 1, if there's an accidental pregnancy before I'm ready I'm terminating it. I discussed it when we first starting getting intimate and I w…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/23 03:04 PM
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Ummm...whose saying men aren't allowed to feel something when a tough decision is being made? The problem I have with these men are they want to be the centre of attention when it's not their body being put through the ringer with abortions or pregnancy. And I say that because my own husband and I had a pregnancy scare recently and I was literally telling him how scared I am to put my body through something like that and he said "you mean WE are going through this". He didn't really react kindly…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/23 12:30 PM
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I've had to support a friend through that experience. It's an incredibly difficult decision to make.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/23 12:21 PM
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Can't argue with a personal opinion, bud. There's no data for your emotional conclusions so why even pretend like this is a serious discussion?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/23 01:11 PM
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Oh, sorry, I don't think your personal opinion is considered a valid argument to the vast majority of the population. My bad, I should've been clearer that all women aren't Only Fans creators and porn stars and 50+ body counts aren't exactly the norm to begin with for most adults. I shouldn't have assumed you'd know that due to your clear inexperience in interacting with the opposite sex. Sorry!
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/23 01:06 PM
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Slut originally meant a woman who had dust bunnies under her bed, historically speaking. So...Maybe you need therapy, not a woman to trauma dump your insecurities onto.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/23 11:03 AM
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I think inexperienced men shouldn't interact with women if they call anyone with more experience than them sluts. I don't think they're ready for sex if they're also judging other people for having it.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/23 10:57 AM
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Yes, but also pair that with adequate sex education, talks about consent, access to reproductive resources as well as destigmatizing libidos and consensual (legal) sexual relationships (ie, poly Amory, the female libido in general, LGBTQ+). It's one aspect of an issue.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/23 06:54 PM
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It's not hard to understand when you deprive people of education and opportunities people are going to react and approach it in unhealthy and uneducated ways.why would sex be any different?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/23 04:40 PM
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As a woman, I couldn't agree more. People are all different. It's weird as fuck to assume woman all share a hive mind.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/23 03:04 AM
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I think a lot of men seem to confuse being emotionally abusive for being emotionally vulnerable. This "uncomfortableness" with men "expressing their emotions" is usually women being like "no, you don't get to cry and pretend you're the victim while you're verbally abusing me". For example, my husband does this thing where he'll rail on me for literally hours for completely inconsequential things like how I didnt have the right tone of voice when I asked him a question (ie, the ladt time being wh…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/23 02:52 AM
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Um, no. That's called being coercive. I am not obligated to go past my own personal sexual boundaries to make a man happy sexually. He's just as entitled to break up with his partner if he wants to explore his sexuality and experiment but don't impose your personal hang-ups and short comings onto your partner to manipulate them into situations they clearly don't want want to be in. That's gross af.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/23 11:03 PM
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I watched my high-school male friends pee in hallways, drive drunk, do drugs, and basically have unhinged adolescent behaviour throughout their late teens to early twenties. The emotional immaturity and lack of self awareness is such a turn off that of course its harder to date them. Men in their 30's tend to have it together more, not be as selfish, have the life experience to recognize not everyone else is some brainless NPC just filling up space around them. And that's honestly most young adu…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/23 03:05 PM
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No
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/23 02:53 AM
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I do too but i wanted to avoid being out in this position from day 1. The problem was a man didn't respect a "no" and decided what was best and negotiated my boundaries.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/23 12:24 AM
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But that's the problem. He still intends to quit. But it's been 13 years. He was going do it after we moved in together, when I finished school, when I got a Job, when we bought a house, when we got engaged, when we got married, after our honeymoon, when I got pregnant, when our daughter was born, when his mom died, when we sold our house, after we moved, when our marriage got better. The goalpost will always move. It's never going to happen after 13 years.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/23 11:23 PM
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Honestly, I made that joke in my head while writing that
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/23 11:20 PM
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Honestly, I love my husband but love isn't gonna save me and daughter from watching him die a slow and painful death from lung cancer like his mom and uncle did. That's not compromise. That's just cruelty. **additionally, he was basically half a pack a day cigarello smoker (worse than cigarettes) and tobacco chewer. I said I'd never be in a relationship with a smoker and I wouldn't compromise because its expensive, bad for you, bad smell, and i dont want to watch him die an entirely preventable …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/23 11:07 PM
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I think the best example I can give you is my own marriage. I was very upfront on several things that I needed for long term compatibility: nonsmoker, marriage in a reasonable time frame, no drinking and driving, no crossing relationship boundaries, etc. Fundamental shit. My husband felt he could compromise on those things. What he failed to tell me was that those weren't also his boundaries/expectations. Instead, he just withheld that he smoked from me for the first several years of dating (lon…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/23 10:51 PM
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That’s because in the mind of the person being told why you aren’t compatible, they’re hearing instructions on how to be compatible with you. All they need to do is change, right? Which is why I no longer explain why we're not compatible. There are fundamental things men have expected me to just eventually change my mind on over time that I never will or have. It's disingenuous and I'd rather not give people the opportunity to try and negotiate my attraction (or lack there of) to them. An intere…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/23 09:34 PM
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Ah, better go find a foreign keyboard you don't understand how to operate on instead. Good call.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/23 08:30 PM
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I have no idea. Why do you want to smash your keyboard?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/23 08:22 PM
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Sorry?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/23 08:18 PM
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You're right. And the same goes passport bros. Maybe they should stop overselling their importance and advertising why they can't function in polite society and we wouldn't even need to have an opinion about them to begin with. I'm glad we can agree.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/23 08:11 PM
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Yeah, and that's why nobody likes a passport bro. It's just some idiot dickhead running his mouth, trying to provoke people and then playing victim when it backfires. Go travel, bud. I full encourage everyone to do it. It's not going to end up how you think it is lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/23 07:59 PM
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I do find it funny that passport bros can dish out the most terrible, horribly abusive things about women but the moment you're like "go for it. I'd love to see you fail when you do" all of a sudden it's women being the meanies. Lmao. Go travel bud. Spend your life savings buying a foreign wife. Let me know how it goes!
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/23 07:57 PM
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No you don't owe. But it's interesting to know. But I understand that first it's extra work for you to explain it and then also, some of the reasons can sound just superficial and stupid when you say them out loud. Which doesn't mean they aren't valid and real, to you. Yeah, I stopped explaining it because it was never just a conclusion or for "research purposes". It was always just an opportunity for the guy to try and convince me into a romantic relationship I never felt inclined to be in. In …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/23 07:52 PM
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I've said it before but passports are the drunk, obnoxious guys at a party. They'll tell you whatever unpopular opinion pops into their head unprovoked, they'll be condescending and insulting and try their best to trigger a reaction and when someone has had enough of the insults and petty button pressing and them getting in their face, the passport bro will just say "well, you're just jealous of me" when in reality everyone wants him to shut up and just leave the party already like he's been pro…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/23 07:42 PM
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We don't. We think passport bros can do whatever they want. We just don't think they need to insult and create hate speech canpaigns against North American women to do it. Its like the drunk, obnoxious guy at the party who keeps saying "I'm gonna do it, you pussy! You hate that I'm gonna do it, don't you, you little bitch." And at some pointnits just like...okay, stop insulting me and just go do it. Get out of our collective faces and go fulfill your dreams and live your best life. Stop complain…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/23 07:38 PM
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Women don't care about passport bros. If they have the money, time and ability to travel and explore the world they should shut up and go for it. Maybe less yapping about how women are upset that they're gone and more just being gone imo.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/23 06:44 PM
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I had to teach my dad to rotate his tires and not to cut backwards with a circular saw. I helped build his entire deck and my sisters and I were the ones usually doing the yard work and vehicle maintenance. Growing up, it was mom's toolbox, not dad's. My mom did teach me how to rewire our pull behind tent trailer though when I had to upgrade the plug on it for towing.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/23 05:37 PM
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Yuuuup. At most, we keep each other on Facebook if it ended well. Not once has a man paid my bills after the relationship ended.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/23 05:35 PM
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I can appreciate artwork without wanting to hang it in my home. We can appreciate a man without having to date him personally and take him home. There's plenty of reasons why I never dated my attractive male friends. Largely it was compatibility and knowing that long term, we would never work out. Or that we had different opinions. Or religious aspects. A different sense of humor. Maybe I didn't want to be married to a doctor, lawyer, cop, etc because of the long work hours/risks affiliated with…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/23 05:09 PM
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I'd rather be single than settle and that should be the norm because toxic relationships don't so anyone any favours
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/23 04:57 PM
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That's indoctrination, baby. When I left my parents didn't speak to me for a year. The absolute guilt I felt for the first 5 years was horrendous. My dad normalized it and it felt wrong to experience anything different. I get why people stay.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/23 12:17 AM
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Yes, so many millionaire *college office administrators out there. Good call. Good objectivity there.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/23 12:15 AM
1

The 38-year-old Upper East Sider stresses that she’s not looking for “anything outrageous” — “safety and security, as far as finances go” — but she’s still coming up empty on dates. She says it’s because the men she goes out with don’t feel the innate “push” to succeed that she does. “I think for years they’ve always just taken their role in society for granted, and I think that they’re just getting lazy culturally,” she says. Morgan Jordan, a staff administrator at a South Carolina college, say…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/23 11:19 PM
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Economically stable =/= rich. My husband wasn't wealthy when we met. He had drive and passion though and we worked together to get where are now. I needed someone who had the same aspirations and economic goals as I do. It's not about wealth. It's compatibility.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/23 11:10 PM
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I did. That was a quote from the article, bud.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/23 11:04 PM
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Exactly. Thank you. We don't need men to be providers. Because, and I quote: "Thibodeaux says she knows it’s “not necessarily [a guy’s] fault” if he’s struggling financially. Still, given the circumstances, she’s had to devise a Plan B for her future: If Mr. Right doesn’t come along soon, she may just shack up with some lady friends at her professional level. “Maybe in a few years we’ll move in together,” she says. “They’re successful, and I like them.” "
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/23 10:57 PM
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I grew up Christian fundamentalist. Those women are taught from birth that God will reward their suffering, that divorce is a sin and that men are meant to be the ultimate source of authority. That's why they stay. Additionally, why would you want that for someone you claim to love to begin with? Why would you want to inflict that kind of misery on your spouse knowing that the only reason why they stay with you is out of fear?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/23 10:43 PM
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It is just money. You are correct. And money can't buy most women's love, time or affection. And we initiate divorces to leave toxic, abusive, or incapatibke relationships which supports my initial point. Largely because alimony isn't guaranteed (or offered in some places at all), child support is a joke and almost nobody is making money solely off being an ex-wife. If you literally take a step back and apply simply logic instead of your own personal bias, you'd find money doesn't mean shit to t…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/23 09:30 PM
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Yeah, and they go after even richer men. Honestly, we don't. I'd rather be self sufficient than married to a rich asshole. Equality does not make women considering more equal opportunities, in fact they become full classist. You mean they are able to leave abusive, toxic or incompatible relationships easier and that makes men big mad? Yes, then we are becoming "classist".
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/23 09:12 PM
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More women are just becoming rich themselves instead. I'd honestly never date a rich person after growing up alongside so many mal-adjusted man babies that it's not worth the effort. Money doesn't make the man. That's for damn sure.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/23 07:23 PM
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I have a daughter bur most of my boy mom friends include: Talks about consent, nonverbal and verbal social cues, when to cut of toxic relationships, how to approach difficult discussions with a partner, body autonomy, and then it's also preparing their husband's to reinforce these same positive narratives. I mean, I grew up around Christian, Conservative men and I watched those men become Andrew Tate and Jordan Peterson fans or become abusive themselves to their families. Some of them turned out…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/23 03:48 PM
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Oh no, I'm just pointing out that even animals can practice better emotional intelligence than men can according to red pill's own logic and assertions.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/23 03:07 PM
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Absolutely. If you don't counting building houses from the ground up hard work, I would assume you'd not be aware either. How many toenails did you sledgehammer off while digging out a drainage system? How many sump pumps have you hand dug? How many wheelbarrows of sand have you hand shoveled into a basement? How many windows have you zoom boomed into place? Lmao, it's all easier than scrubbing toilets and chasing around a 2 year old and it's definitely more fulfilling to watch instant progress …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/23 07:34 PM
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Yes, I worked in warehouses hurling boxes, moving car parts befors framing houses and pouring concrete for over 15 years. Eventually I got my business degree and now I work largely in an office. I've done the work, bud. I know what you're talking about. I'm just good at my job so I've been promoted since my manual labour days. What is so hard for you to understand here?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/23 07:24 PM
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I also have to do site visits, organize trades, direct my team on jobs, and source parts for builds and warranties. It's almost like I'm good at my job and got promoted to more responsibility because of it.... Wow, what an outlandish concept. A woman who can get promoted in construction. I know.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/23 06:56 PM
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I literally worked manual labour the majority of my life including in warehouses, in construction and while learning skilled tradework. I'm the warranty administrator for a local large developer now because of my background and my business degree. But go off lol
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/23 03:36 PM
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Preach.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/23 06:10 PM
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And don't get me wrong, my husband deals with the other side of men being treated as idiots when it comes to parenting. He knows her doctor, her health issues, her teachers, her best friends, etc. and whenever he takes her to an appointment all the nurses and doctors and even fellow moms are usually gushing over the fact he is an equitable parent. He finds it demeaning and condescending because although it is work, its also obviously his responsibility to contribute to domestic labour and raisin…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/23 05:52 PM
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Yeah, imagine if you thought that's actually what I said. I'm saying I've seen it so often that it's a classic sitcom trope. I'm saying I've witnessed it and it's so common that the media portrays it as a norm to boot. I know plenty of guys who begged for families and then immediately threw themselves into work when the novelty of being a parent wore off. My own dad included. And I did his job too (family business). He absolutely unnecessarily prioritized his work over his family. And it's liter…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/23 04:22 PM
1

As a former landlord, I agree.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/23 03:44 PM
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You're saying men can't judge how to approach women better than a dog can. I don't think I need to listen what a man who thinks that had to say. Good luck on learning the fundamentals on how to function in society, I guess?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/23 01:08 PM
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The only context in which men don’t want to do it is when women pretend it’s equal to real work. If it's so easy why aren't more men volunteering to do it? It's literally a fun media trope that men will do anything to avoid being responsible for their families lol. The weird thing is, women don’t actually believe housework is harder, if they did, there would be no reason they don’t just work more, and pay someone to clean and cook for them. If housework and cooking was truly harder, you’d end up…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/23 01:06 PM
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I mean, yeah. Dump runs were always my favourite. Scrubbing a toilet on my hands and knees is what I dread.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/23 01:01 PM
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Sure, but, again, men still need to be accountable for being abusive too. And blaming victims just helps protect the cycle of abuse. If you want to keep doing it, go for it. But you're making it harder for victims to leave when you do. Man or woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/23 01:00 PM
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Maybe you are better suited to be a stay at home parent? I did general laboring before becoming a skilled framer and some concrete work. Loved it (minus the winter aspect). Co-owned a framing business with my husband for a while and now I help run the home warranty division for a major local developer. Yeah, it's all easier than being a parent. It genuinely makes me laugh when men try and tell me otherwise.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/23 12:59 PM
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OK, then men aren't capable of the bare minimum of emptionalnontelligence and shouldn't be in charge if you feel this way. If.men are too stupid to not talk to someone with headphones in, whose working, whose clearly not comfortable and trying to leave the conversation, etc then that's on you. You're the problem. This isn't rocket science. Women will try and politely disengage you when not interested. All you have to do is pay attention to basic social cues like "I have a boyfriend" or "sorry, I…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/23 12:56 PM
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I framed houses in a bikini and pajamas. Clothes don't make the man.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/23 06:31 AM
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I worked in construction for years and I've done the SAHM gig. Being a parent was harder. Running a household and managing people's daily lives is hard. Cleaning is hard. So is cooking. If it was easy more men wouldnt be resentful for having to do it. And you get this kind of ingratitude to boot. So it's not like you're even getting emotionally or mentally fulfilled from it. Yeah, no Thanks. I'd rather be a working mom sharing the load any day.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/23 06:29 AM
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It's weird talking to someone whose had similar experiences. I am trying to give my husband time to change now that we both recognize our generational trauma but it's hard disentangling from the toxic trauma bonding too. I also know I love him a lot more than he loves me.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/23 03:43 PM
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Thanks. Either way, I'm determined to he happy. He's welcome to join me on my journey or he can be miserable by himself. It's harder when you have a daughter and you start realize when all that abusive behaviour began to get more severe the more my father realized he couldn't control me. It's hard because at one point id have said my dad was a good dad too. So that'll be fun to navigate.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/23 03:17 PM
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I'm hopeful. He's had a severely abusive childhood and mine was just emotionally/verbally and financially abusive. He's unlearned a lot of things too.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/23 03:03 PM
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Abusive PEOPLE lie and manipulate. Both men and woman. You're right. I agree. I don't blame you for not knowing how to br the perfect victim the same way I don't blame myself. This was the literal best situation I could imagine for myself at one point. I've had enough therapy and knowledge to know that I don't deserve a partner that acts that way towards me. But in the end both play their role in the dynamic. And the abuser most of the time isn't gonna be the one growing or changing. Regardless …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/23 02:52 PM
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lol. And what decade are we talking about here? 1989-2023 --> I grew up with a brother and male classmates. I've seen their moms parent them and tell them not to harrass people. This isn't rocket ket science. Try paying attention to how parents interact with their kids maybe? Nope. Its just dealing with women today is far different than it was not that long ago. Men have to walk a tight rope with women where as they don't with men. Men can insult another man playfully and we know neither one wil…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/23 02:14 PM
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Why is the idea that abusive men lie and manipulate people such a hard concept for red pillers? I grew up with a conservative Christian fundamentalist dad who normalized emotional and verbal abuse towards me. I grew up with the older generation telling us that we were lucky he wasn't a bad dad. So I married someone just like my dad. And guess what? The abuse my dad spent a lifetime normalizing didn't seem like abuse. I felt lucky my husband was more engaged as a father than my dad. I felt lucky …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/23 02:06 PM
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I'm a mother. I am teaching my kid fundamental social skills. The more I do it, the more I realize men were taught these basic, rundamentary skillsets from toddlerhood and yet somehow still use ignorance as an excuse. I watch fellow moms interject for their sons all the time. Even further to the point, I see these same men practice social norms and basic social approaches with other men, no problem. It's like they think women are somehow the exception for respect and kindness. You have male cowo…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/23 09:26 PM
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I'm with trash men because a trash man raised me and had a whole fear campaign that I had to settle for trash men because that's all that exists. I'm in therapy now but yeah, turns out it's a multi-generstional campaign to keep women in trashy men cycles.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/23 12:21 PM
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