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| 1 | Q4Women: Have you ever experienced post nut clarity?Yeah definitely...when I was single/more promiscuous. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/03/21 09:37 PM |
| 1 | Most guys who don't "pump and dump" only don't because they can't without going sexless for long stretchesIn not sure I understand your point exactly? You’re saying if one of us had not “been to paris” as often with as many people it would have been harder to accept committing to “going to Paris” with the other person and no one else because it would have been uneven? I pretty much agree with that (it’s what I meant by “compatibility”) but it’s not really the point of the post. OP is talking about whether people (men specifically) would give up casual sex for LTRs even if they knew they had the opti… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/03/21 12:13 PM |
| 1 | Most guys who don't "pump and dump" only don't because they can't without going sexless for long stretchesIn terms of compatibility? Definitely, but the point is we both chose monogamy over the very real option to continue having casual sex/regular fuck buddies at the time (OP asserted that if it were not for the fear of going long periods of time without getting laid, men would never choose relationships because all men really want casual sex with different women infinitely, they just settle down so they don’t have to stress about where it’s coming from). | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/03/21 10:53 AM |
| 1 | TRP men: how many women are you close with in real life?Working from home today for covid reasons, and honestly just kept replying because it was funny that you got so mad about it. I’ll leave you alone now. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/03/21 03:32 PM |
| 0 | TRP men: how many women are you close with in real life?But did not want to be heard or replied to and are upset that it happened!? Ok! Again, weird move but you do you. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/03/21 02:51 PM |
| 1 | TRP men: how many women are you close with in real life?Hah, no you don’t have to care/I don’t really care if you do or not...but if you post something publicly online (especially as a reply to someone else) you’re going to get responses and if you don’t want them why bother replying at all? It doesn’t matter really...just a weird move IMO. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/03/21 01:51 PM |
| 4 | Most guys who don't "pump and dump" only don't because they can't without going sexless for long stretchesI’m a girl but same for both me and the guy I ended up with/am still with years later. When we met we were both casually involved with multiple people, also both kind of bored of being promiscuous but hadn’t found anyone we liked enough to commit to until each other. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/03/21 01:49 PM |
| 1 | TRP men: how many women are you close with in real life?Ok, well when people make a point to write about something publicly you assume they care. That’s fine though...maybe in the future don’t bring up topics you don’t want responses to? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/03/21 01:45 PM |
| 1 | Most guys who don't "pump and dump" only don't because they can't without going sexless for long stretchesI think it’s VERY age related (and it is for women too, but most women are discouraged from or afraid of promiscuity so it happens on a smaller scale). I also think “grass is greener” happens on both sides. Most people in their teens/even 20s aren’t thinking about the future at all, they’re just thinking about what feels good and is fun right now. As people age most begin to want partnership more and more, as you start thinking about what it would be like to be truly alone as an elderly/retired … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/03/21 01:39 PM |
| 1 | TRP men: how many women are you close with in real life?I was responding to the last paragraph of what you wrote... | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/03/21 12:59 PM |
| 1 | CMV: Men require either a job/social circle/looks to attract a woman whilst women generally only need their looksYeah they still do, just MORE forgiving...not saying unemployed is a preference. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/03/21 01:50 AM |
| 2 | Career women are not miserable.Totally agree. I’m a “career woman.” I do think I married later in life than I would have if I weren’t prioritizing school/work when I was in my 20s, but I don’t regret any of it and did end up with someone I’m happy with. Maybe I was just lucky to meet the right person at the right time but a lot of my female colleagues are happily married or in relationships as well. As for “career women vs trad. Wives” I think that rivalry doesn’t really exist. I’m sure there are some judgmental people out th… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/03/21 10:44 PM |
| 1 | TRP men: how many women are you close with in real life?I asked the question to get a sense of whether they do or don’t, and if they do how they balance their philosophy of women with women they know closely/love. If you read the responses it’s actually a pretty even split of folks who avoid women and folks who have keep women in their lives. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/03/21 10:01 PM |
| 1 | TRP men: how many women are you close with in real life?I just meant about the social media thing. Social media is joke BS all around. It has its uses but knowing someone online is not “friendship.” | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/03/21 09:59 PM |
| 1 | TRP men: how many women are you close with in real life?I think you underestimate the amount women like to talk to each other just for the hell of talking to each other. Also most women don’t judge their friends for number of sexual partners/what they do sexually. It’s fun story time. I’d argue that most women’s best friends know WAY more about them than their partners do. Not just sexually, all around. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/03/21 09:57 PM |
| – | "I know ugly guys who get laid all the time" How true do you think this is?I mean I gave a general description. If it sounds like I’m underrating it maybe I am? Saying “you’re probably underrating how good looking the guys are” is the same as me telling you “you’re probably overrating how good looking guys who date are.” Arguing subjectivity on an online forum where no one knows/can see the people in questing is sort of just circular and pointless....it’s possible I guess. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/03/21 09:54 PM |
| 1 | CMV: Men require either a job/social circle/looks to attract a woman whilst women generally only need their looksI just mean a lot of people overall are more forgiving of unemployment specifically because a LOT of people got laid off or furloughed because of covid, and it’s an understandable reason. If that’s not why you’re unemployed though it wouldn’t hold true. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/03/21 09:51 PM |
| 1 | TRP men: how many women are you close with in real life?I did forget to end parentheses (I’ll edit my post and fix that...I’m typing on my phone so shit happens). you forgot to provide examples of women who fail to fit the mold Do you mean you don’t understand what the “mold” I’m referring to is, or are you asking for some sort of proof or evidence that I haven’t witnessed much of it? If the former then I’ll explain, if the latter...it didn’t seem necessary to give evidence since I’m really just asking a question I’m legitimately curious about in the… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/03/21 09:26 PM |
| 2 | TRP men: how many women are you close with in real life?That’s probably true. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/03/21 01:14 AM |
| 1 | "I know ugly guys who get laid all the time" How true do you think this is?Girl | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/03/21 12:43 AM |
| 2 | How is casual sex degrading to you (if you do feel this way)?I’ve had situations that have felt degrading and situations that have not. It depends how honest the guy is about his wants. If he says he’s just looking for something casual, or it’s obvious that that’s what it is (meet at a club/party ONS thing) then it’s not degrading. It feels like two adults consenting to mutually use each other for sex which is fine and can be healthy as long as everyone is on the same page. If a guy lies and makes it seem like he wants more (or just omits the fact that he… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/03/21 12:30 AM |
| 1 | What is your opinion about people (I would say that guys do this less) posting intimate details and letters of their loved ones so that may be psychologically analyzed and assessed as socially acceptable?I think if it’s anonymous just to get a collective opinion/help your own thought process and with no markers of who it could be about it’s fine. I don’t like relationship stuff posted on socials etc... that use names (or don’t but make it obvious who it’s about). Even positive stuff. It just feels performative and invasive. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/03/21 12:21 AM |
| 1 | How often do you feel that "spark" when you meet or come across a new man?Very rarely, and it usually has to do with the way a guy smells/tone of his voice/mannerisms more than his physical attributes. There are a lot of men I’ve thought were good looking but don’t have sexual attraction to (which I think is that “spark.”) I’m 32 and I’ve been sexually active since 15. I think I’ve only had that type of immediate attraction to maybe 3 guys total. That said if I get to know someone I sometimes develop attraction to the person over time, but it’s not really the same as … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/03/21 12:16 AM |
| 1 | Are Dating Apps making you a Robot? (Or Are they a sign we already are?)It’s a little of both, but dating apps ARE designed to trigger reward centers in your brain when you receive a swipe that make you want to keep engaging with the app...same way socials are with “likes,” or whatever game of chance is with gambling. I’ve known maybe 2-3 couples who met on apps and had successful relationships but most people just use them as ways to socialize/pass the time/feel validated when they’re single until they meet someone organically who they’re actually excited about. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/03/21 12:07 AM |
| 3 | CMV: Men require either a job/social circle/looks to attract a woman whilst women generally only need their looksI think the reason men with a wide social circle are more successful at dating isn’t because of “status” it’s because they meet people through their friends in group situations who they otherwise may not meet, and because women take the opinions of their friends to heart, so I’d a friend thinks a guy is cool and talks him up, that goes a long way, and a wide social circle is how you get that. Most people over 25 don’t really want to date someone unemployed (male or female), though I think most a… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/02/21 11:48 PM |
| 6 | Men often claim that they don't care about women wearing make-up and that only other women care about make-up, styling etc. However, girly girls who wear make-up, style their hair and have a skincare routine seem to be pretty popular among men. Do men care about these things more than they think?I think men don’t realize that women wearing high end makeup who are skilled at it often don’t appear to be wearing make up. When they say women look “better without it” they mean makeup that looks obviously fake. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/02/21 11:41 PM |
| 3 | "I know ugly guys who get laid all the time" How true do you think this is?I definitely know/have known a fair number of very unspectacular looking guys who get laid. I don’t know about “ugly” but definitely very very average looking non-models who aren’t particularly rich either. By “unspectacular” I mean not particularly athletic, maybe not all their hair, average height...”normal” looking dudes. I imagine if you’re a snaggletoothed hunchback with crossed eyes you may not get laid, but that’s not 80% of the population. Most of the guys I know who aren’t top 1% gorgeo… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/02/21 09:42 PM |
| 5 | What does the typical day of an "average woman" and "average man" life look like?This would be completely different depending on how old you are, what country you live in, what race/culture you come from...even what PART of a country you live in (the average woman in New York City is going to have a completely different day to day life than the average woman in a small town in Alabama...just as an example). The idea of “averaging out” the daily life of men and women globally is a pretty silly and maybe even impossible thing to do that won’t really tell you much at all. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/02/21 01:00 AM |
| 4 | 84% of working women told ForbesWoman that staying home to raise children is a financial luxury they aspire to...more than 1 in 3 resent their partner for not earning enough to make that dream a reality.The point of pushing for opportunities wasn’t to force every woman to take those opportunities. The point is if you want to be a “homemaker” that’s a choice not an expectation. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/02/21 08:25 PM |
| 1 | Q4M: Would you date a woman who is taller than you?YEP! The fetishizing thing is arguably worse than people just being assholes about it. I had a drunk guy in a bar who was probably like 5’6 ask to “climb” me once. Also, don’t people who make a big deal about it consider that most tall girls were teased about it when they were young the same way overweight girls were teased about being fat? Like...rude! I feel SO BLESSED to hopefully never have to date again...men are so gross! Lol. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/02/21 11:16 PM |
| 1 | Does this describe you? "I have a job, a house, and a loving group of friends, family and a dog. But I'm willing to throw all of that away if it meant I could be a guy who can get constant endless casual sex on demand."Why would you have to give up your friends or job or dog to have casual sex? But also no, I gave up casual sex whenever I wanted for a more family-oriented life with a committed partner and I wouldn’t trade back ever. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/02/21 06:45 PM |
| 2 | Over the years, men have become more feminine and women have become more masculine - how has this impacted modern dating and relationships? Has it been a good or bad thing?I don’t think this has actually happened as much as society is transitioning into seeing gender differently than we used to. For example: There was a time in history when pants were seen as “masculine.” They’re still maybe seen as more masculine than dresses, but if you were to see a girl wearing jeans you wouldn’t automatically call her masculine, and most women wear jeans at least sometimes. As a result we’ve started tailoring jeans to women’s bodies. Same is happening in workplaces, roles in … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/02/21 06:42 PM |
| 2 | Does your attractiveness-level dictate your self-worth? Or at the very least, is being "sexually desired" a main factor in dictating your happiness?I’m a woman: When I was a teenager it absolutely did, and I think for a lot of teenage girls it does because there’s a lot of media/socialization telling women their worth is their attractiveness to men and when you’re young you take that all very much to heart. As an adult, no...I get most of my happiness from sources that have nothing to do with what men think of me (hobbies, friends, accomplishments). I do get an amount of self-worth from my social life, but it has nothing to do with sexual a… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/02/21 06:30 PM |
| 1 | Q4M: Would you date a woman who is taller than you?My husband is 6’2 (ish? I think? Maybe 6’1) which isn’t crazy but is tall... and he actually does prefer taller girls (or that’s what he tells me at least?) it happens...I dated mostly men my height or slightly shorter (5’9-10) before him. I guess it’s also a factor that just not a lot of the population is over 6’3 so regardless of whether they prefer shorter or taller women there’s just not many to compare. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/02/21 06:20 PM |
| 1 | Q4M: Would you date a woman who is taller than you?That’s interesting. I never thought about tall guys going for shorter girls. I guess I could see it being a preference to be a lot bigger than your date... | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/02/21 06:13 PM |
| 1 | Q4M: Would you date a woman who is taller than you?Yep! I had tinder last time I was single and didn’t list my height because I didn’t think it mattered and definitely experienced men (mostly shorter ones) who told me in various ways they wouldn’t have swiped if they knew I was 5’11 and/or made a big deal about the fact that I didn’t look that tall in pictures but it’s “fine” like it was cat fishing or something. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/02/21 06:11 PM |
| 8 | Q4M: Would you date a woman who is taller than you?That’s because most guys around are “short guys” to us tall girls...whether someone is 5’7 or 5’10 doesn’t make much of a difference if you’re 5’11. You just eventually accept that you’re going to be taller than a lot of the men you meet, and even the ones who ARE taller than you are probably not by much (if you’re 5’11 and your man is 6’ he’s not “tall” to you...he’s just your height)...and if you wear any shoes apart from flats and insist on a man being taller you’re really limiting your datin… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/02/21 06:13 PM |
| 0 | Has anyone considered that women are just more physically attractive than men objectively, and that’s why there appears to be an imbalance in how many can get dates?Well, I’m not Rp or Bp...or any pill...I’m just a regular girl/primatologist who likes to dabble in the dark corners of the internet to understand how various groups of people I disagree with think and why they think that way rather than just judging/dismissing them all as stupid. But yeah the way people use/interpret evolutionary psychology here is pretty much bullshit and shows more than anything else a huge misconception of how evolution works and how it pertains to modern humans/completely d… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/02/21 06:59 PM |
| 2 | Has anyone considered that women are just more physically attractive than men objectively, and that’s why there appears to be an imbalance in how many can get dates?....I’m in no way saying it’s scientific fact that women are more beautiful...it’s just thoughts/a point of discussion. We’re on an Internet forum not in a peer reviewed journal. EDIT I’m sorry I misread which thread you were responding to: There IS a ton of medical AND biological research about the way women’s bodies retain fat/muscle vs men’s and where that comes from in evolutionary history, Google it if you’re interested... | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/02/21 05:59 PM |
| 1 | Has anyone considered that women are just more physically attractive than men objectively, and that’s why there appears to be an imbalance in how many can get dates?You can Google it if you’re interested in the research. There’s a ton of it out there. this article talks about metabolic thrift (it’s just the first one I found when I looked it up and gives a good overview but if you’re welcome to look further if you’d like). Asia is large and ethnically/genetically diverse continent...The research I’ve seen about genetic factors in weight gain associated with ethnic groups mostly focuses on African Americans and Inuit specifically, and so I don’t want to spea… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/02/21 05:18 PM |
| 1 | Has anyone considered that women are just more physically attractive than men objectively, and that’s why there appears to be an imbalance in how many can get dates?Yeah it’s both. It helps to be a little more resistant to UV I’m sure...especially people who are very very dark. But damn...I was in France for work for a bit a couple of years ago and old white people there (men and women) look GREAT...turns out they’re just really into skin care in France and it’s not as gendered. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/02/21 04:12 PM |
| 1 | Has anyone considered that women are just more physically attractive than men objectively, and that’s why there appears to be an imbalance in how many can get dates?I’m not from Mongolia. I’m also not overweight (though I was in middle school/early high school before I started doing sports and also grew). My point about the genes they’ve found in Mongolia is that there is conclusive evidence that there ARE genes that control how easy or difficult it is for you to lose weight and that was once example of a specific gene that does so... And talking about genetics of populations that have experienced starvation: I wasn’t referring to the distended belly that h… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/02/21 04:02 PM |
| 1 | Has anyone considered that women are just more physically attractive than men objectively, and that’s why there appears to be an imbalance in how many can get dates?Yeah I think you misunderstood a little of what I meant about aging. Never meant older women (or men) can’t be beautiful...just that I think it kind of evens out (older women/older men are sort of more equal in beauty than younger women and younger men) once the estrogen isn’t pumping away anymore. And of course some people age better than others. Also as a Black woman just gonna let you in on a secret vis a vis “people of color aging better”: We don’t actually age THAT much better naturally (th… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/02/21 03:33 PM |
| 1 | Has anyone considered that women are just more physically attractive than men objectively, and that’s why there appears to be an imbalance in how many can get dates?I think this is more true in some countries than others...I also think it’s generational/cultural In the US/most of Canada men don’t put much effort into how they dress...having traveled around Europe and South America a bit...That’s definitely not true in every country....men in Italy/Spain particularly I noticed put a lot of care into their appearance and you’re right they ARE more beautiful there...but women still look prettier most of the time... As for skin care...I think that’s another cul… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/02/21 03:16 PM |
| 1 | Has anyone considered that women are just more physically attractive than men objectively, and that’s why there appears to be an imbalance in how many can get dates?Huh! Interesting! She has such beautiful facial features though! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/02/21 03:04 PM |
| 1 | Has anyone considered that women are just more physically attractive than men objectively, and that’s why there appears to be an imbalance in how many can get dates?I’m of the mind that no one is 100% straight (I believe in the Kinsey scale) but having experimented in college I call myself straight because I don’t desire women sexually enough to actually have sex with them, and I do desire men sexually enough to do so. You’re talking about what is sexually desirable, not beautiful....tournaments, strength as a warrior etc...we’re things that made men SEXY, not beautiful. Men are still sexy, and still have plenty of similar ways to display “masculine” talent… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/02/21 03:01 PM |
| -1 | Has anyone considered that women are just more physically attractive than men objectively, and that’s why there appears to be an imbalance in how many can get dates?There is more to it than this. Genetics is a huge factor. That doesn’t mean people who genetically keep weight on more CANT get fit, but it’s harder for some than others. I have a friend who can eat burgers every day and never exercise and is like 110 soaking wet on a good day. If I lived like her I’d be 200 pounds. That doesn’t mean I can’t stay fit, but I have to try a little bit. There are also people I know who try much harder than I do and are still in worse shape. Lots of things factor in … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/02/21 02:47 PM |
| 0 | Has anyone considered that women are just more physically attractive than men objectively, and that’s why there appears to be an imbalance in how many can get dates?It’s more than just not fat...haven’t you ever heard the term “butter face?” Then there’s the fact you also can’t be too thin...women with no chest/butt who are super skinny aren’t seen as attractive either... You experience being judged for your looks as a man daily...you then have your own experience of maybe NOT caring whether women you date are perfect looking. As a woman, it’s the same...I don’t care if a man isn’t in perfect shape with perfect hair and perfect bone structure...that’s not t… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/02/21 02:20 PM |
| 1 | Can someone be considered “loyal” if they aren’t practicing “fidelity”?Yes “not really” was just a soft way to put it I meant not loyal. I mean if it’s consensual/approved by the wife it’s DEFINITELY still loyal and not even cheating...that’s just a kink. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/02/21 01:51 PM |
| 1 | Has anyone considered that women are just more physically attractive than men objectively, and that’s why there appears to be an imbalance in how many can get dates?I meant “objective” in the way we as a society mean “objective.” Arguably NOTHING is objective because yes, our entire reality is built on human perceptions which are not objective...but if there’s enough group consensus we accept things as such so as not to make ourselves crazy. attraction is INCREDIBLY subjective (what you personally feel sexual desire for is actually learned in childhood according to most psychologists and isn’t necessarily about how beautiful it is...), but beauty is a mix o… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/02/21 01:37 PM |
| 1 | Has anyone considered that women are just more physically attractive than men objectively, and that’s why there appears to be an imbalance in how many can get dates?Again, everything you said can be explained by the way women are taught to handle the feeling of being horny or having sexual desire... We’re not SUPPOSED to express it... | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/02/21 07:32 PM |
| 1 | Has anyone considered that women are just more physically attractive than men objectively, and that’s why there appears to be an imbalance in how many can get dates?Yeah exactly. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/02/21 07:31 PM |
| 1 | Has anyone considered that women are just more physically attractive than men objectively, and that’s why there appears to be an imbalance in how many can get dates?Fair. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/02/21 07:30 PM |
| 1 | Has anyone considered that women are just more physically attractive than men objectively, and that’s why there appears to be an imbalance in how many can get dates?That could also be because males were more likely to die before procreating than females ...They were more often hunters etc...in hunter gatherer societies and so engaging in riskier behaviors. I didn’t say men had one partner for life...men also remain fertile longer...once the kids are all gone if the female can no longer reproduce the male would have biological imperative to seek other females. There are various ways to interpret that DNA evidence regardless of it being scientific fact. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/02/21 07:29 PM |
| 1 | Has anyone considered that women are just more physically attractive than men objectively, and that’s why there appears to be an imbalance in how many can get dates?I don’t understand that point... People who are gonna break up break up...people who are gonna stay together stay together. Marriage makes breaking up a little more of a headache so people are a little more likely to try harder before resorting to it maybe, but so does cohabitation or any of the other steps along the way of commitment to someone. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/02/21 07:24 PM |
| 2 | Has anyone considered that women are just more physically attractive than men objectively, and that’s why there appears to be an imbalance in how many can get dates?You just proved my point...the generation of women who would potentially have been raised that way/had smartphones before adulthood is JUST now reaching reproductive age, meaning if anything children being born now would be the first generation to really be raised that way...most adult women had already been socialized significantly by the time they had access to that stuff beyond maybe the vague ideas of it and are fighting against that conditioning maybe but we’re NOT raised in it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/02/21 07:22 PM |
| 1 | Has anyone considered that women are just more physically attractive than men objectively, and that’s why there appears to be an imbalance in how many can get dates?How are humans evolved for high paternal involvement: Well you asked so I’ll summarize (there’s an amount to it but I’ll give the nutshell version). It comes down to something called life-history strategy...it’s a misconception that males of all species are built to procreate with as many females as possible while females are built to get pregnant as many times as possible. That strategy is most common is species with large litters/short gestational periods (small rodents, fish, insects...the id… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/02/21 07:17 PM |
| 1 | Has anyone considered that women are just more physically attractive than men objectively, and that’s why there appears to be an imbalance in how many can get dates?Also I dislike the word “natural” but humans are evolved to be monogamous—the physiology of their sex organs suggests it, as does the fact that it’s what most of us gravitate towards...it comes from the fact that our offspring have long childhoods and we have very few in our lifetimes. That means each individual baby is worth a lot from a biological standpoint, and babies survive better in the wild with paternal involvement than without. Evolution is ultimately about survival of offspring...so y… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/02/21 06:48 PM |
| 1 | Has anyone considered that women are just more physically attractive than men objectively, and that’s why there appears to be an imbalance in how many can get dates?Some men have higher drives. Some women have higher drives. More women are taught to suppress their high sex drive if they have it because it’s not “feminine” to be open about wanting sex. I know a lot of girls who are horny as fuck they’re just afraid to/don’t know how to ask for it even from their husbands/boyfriends let alone men they’re not involved with whereas men are considered less masculine if they ever turn down sex and so do the opposite. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/02/21 05:43 PM |
| 1 | Has anyone considered that women are just more physically attractive than men objectively, and that’s why there appears to be an imbalance in how many can get dates?That’s true by definition..but break ups happen whether or not there’s a marriage. People split up when there’s incompatibility...marriage or no. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/02/21 05:39 PM |
| 0 | Has anyone considered that women are just more physically attractive than men objectively, and that’s why there appears to be an imbalance in how many can get dates?Yeah but it’s only pretty recently that those ideals were even mainstream in the media...it wasn’t until maybe the 2000s that it even became regular to have strong female leads as TV protagonists on network TV (even then it was mostly just Xena and Buffy that I can remember) they were few and far between when most millennials were growing up. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/02/21 05:30 PM |
| 1 | Has anyone considered that women are just more physically attractive than men objectively, and that’s why there appears to be an imbalance in how many can get dates?Hah, yeah I think marriages mostly fail because people see it as something it’s not and have weird expectations that don’t make sense. That’s a different conversation though... | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/02/21 05:27 PM |
| -2 | Has anyone considered that women are just more physically attractive than men objectively, and that’s why there appears to be an imbalance in how many can get dates?REALLY!? She’s so pretty! I think it’s also a little different in the Black community...curves are more...valued...for us... | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/02/21 05:18 PM |
| 1 | Has anyone considered that women are just more physically attractive than men objectively, and that’s why there appears to be an imbalance in how many can get dates?Hah, we’ve been together for 6 years just recently married for legal reasons because we basically were already so we did it on paper...If we’re not there yet I don’t see it happening year 7? I really hope it doesn’t...I got shit to do. It’s different when neither one of you is in a rush to have kids I think... Marriage is just a legal agreement that makes your taxes a little nicer and means you have rights if anything happens to either one of you... I’m sorry about your projector! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/02/21 05:14 PM |
| 0 | Has anyone considered that women are just more physically attractive than men objectively, and that’s why there appears to be an imbalance in how many can get dates?I don’t know that it does—look at the men that are painted/sculpted as models for “beauty” they’re mostly extremes of male beauty/adonises the likes of which are uncommon in real life (perfectly muscle/flawless bone structure/hair)...women you see in paintings portrayed as beautiful are sometimes that, but are very often also regular looking women (bodecelli, for example) because relatively normal female bodies are still visually appealing. No one is saying there are no pretty men. There are obv… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/02/21 05:06 PM |
| 2 | Has anyone considered that women are just more physically attractive than men objectively, and that’s why there appears to be an imbalance in how many can get dates?I mean I’m not sure I’d call penises OR vaginas nice looking out of context...but yes it is more complex... And transplanting female faces on men/being socially rejected I don’t think is a fair test...we’re all condition to see some faces as “masculine” and others as “feminine.” That’s one reason trans people have such a hard time even when they’re beautiful and going outside those norms freaks people out. I’m not saying I wish men looked like women...Just that more women have beautiful features… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/02/21 05:01 PM |
| 1 | Has anyone considered that women are just more physically attractive than men objectively, and that’s why there appears to be an imbalance in how many can get dates?Yes I think so too and I just put it here to see what TRPs answer to it would be honestly. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/02/21 04:57 PM |
| 1 | Has anyone considered that women are just more physically attractive than men objectively, and that’s why there appears to be an imbalance in how many can get dates?Hah, my relationship isn’t anything like that...and yeah sometimes I like to go interact with people on the internet because it’s fun and interesting for me and I’m sick/like to argue with people. I never said there was a “drought” for me nor do I feel that there is (where do you get that?) the world didn’t fail me...I have a great relationship and am very fortunate...if I were offered a prince gazillionaire over my husband I’d say no, because I’m satisfied with the guy I’m with (and no he’s not… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/02/21 04:54 PM |
| 0 | Has anyone considered that women are just more physically attractive than men objectively, and that’s why there appears to be an imbalance in how many can get dates?Absolutely agree. I’ve lived in dorms with girls as well meaning seen them when they wake up, in the bathroom, just off the pooper in the morning etc...yes a lot of women enhance their beauty with make up, but estrogen features also have a natural beauty...we have hormones that make us look softer/more visually appealing. When those hormones stop pumping so much (after menopause) women and men start looking more and more the same because it’s not important biologically to be beautiful if you no … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/02/21 04:42 PM |
| 1 | Has anyone considered that women are just more physically attractive than men objectively, and that’s why there appears to be an imbalance in how many can get dates?Yes, I agree completely, and I also know some women and men who aren’t thin but look good at their weights...maybe not obese because no one (male or female) looks good obese, but some people have larger frames/carry weight well and actually look better with a little meat on them...men also tend to be taller so can carry more weight before they start looking unattractively heavy. But there is a huge stigma about women being overweight, and women also tend to put on weight faster and lose it more … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/02/21 04:22 PM |
| 1 | Has anyone considered that women are just more physically attractive than men objectively, and that’s why there appears to be an imbalance in how many can get dates?ask homosexual men what percentage of men they find attractive it will be more It’s not about male/female brains...it’s about male/female culture and socialization. Women are taught early on that sex/chastity are something to guard, both because of the risk of getting pregnant/taken advantage of and the social stigma around female promiscuity (if a girl has had more than a small handful of partners in her life time she’s perceived as “bad news” to future partners) so yes, women are more likely t… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/02/21 04:15 PM |
| 1 | Has anyone considered that women are just more physically attractive than men objectively, and that’s why there appears to be an imbalance in how many can get dates?Hah!!You really think girls are raised in feminism? No...really not. Maybe more so now that millennials are starting to have kids and a lot of our generation wants to prioritize raising children differently in a lot of ways, including raising girls to see their value...but you’re actually insane if you think that was common in most of our upbringings in most places. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/02/21 04:02 PM |
| 2 | Has anyone considered that women are just more physically attractive than men objectively, and that’s why there appears to be an imbalance in how many can get dates?Again. I’m not talking about attraction, I’m talking about BEAUTY. Not the same thing. Are you sexually attracted to everything you see as beautiful? When you go to a botanical garden do you have a raging boner the whole time because all the flowers are so beautiful? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/02/21 03:56 PM |
| 0 | Has anyone considered that women are just more physically attractive than men objectively, and that’s why there appears to be an imbalance in how many can get dates?Female bodies look fine without muscle, but it’s also much harder for women to lose weight...we’ve evolved to retain fat for the sake of both staying warm and not starving if there’s a food shortage and we are pregnant so the baby won’t die... A lot of women really struggle with their weight, and if you throw a rock on this forum in any direction you’ll hit a guy who says being fat makes a girl undateable. There are also plenty of girls who like bald guys, if your hairline is receding just shave… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/02/21 03:51 PM |
| -5 | Has anyone considered that women are just more physically attractive than men objectively, and that’s why there appears to be an imbalance in how many can get dates?What about...Lizzo? She’s a babe! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/02/21 03:48 PM |
| 0 | Has anyone considered that women are just more physically attractive than men objectively, and that’s why there appears to be an imbalance in how many can get dates?good looking men are good looking without makeup So are good looking women...women are just more likely to use make up to enhance their appearance than men are. men are just hornier So then why do most women (even straight ones) really see a lot of other women as really beautiful even outside of sexual attraction if it’s just about wanting to to satisfy desire? Why is DRAG a thing (men emulating women in performance...it’s partly a satire, but also an appreciation of female beauty often by men w… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/02/21 03:47 PM |
| 0 | Has anyone considered that women are just more physically attractive than men objectively, and that’s why there appears to be an imbalance in how many can get dates?Yes absolutely , but I’m not talking about attractiveness...I’m talking about beauty...which is also relative but DOES have some amount of universality (and not just human beauty, beauty of anything...most people see flowers as prettier than...I don’t know, chairs, even though which flowers people prefer is totally subjective and there are some really beautiful chairs that exist in the world too)...and my point is that women’s bodies I think are more likely to fit the “universals” of beauty than… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/02/21 03:42 PM |
| 0 | Has anyone considered that women are just more physically attractive than men objectively, and that’s why there appears to be an imbalance in how many can get dates?I’d argue that being fat has a HUGE affect on how women are perceived but ignoring that comment: Even in other countries where men DO put a lot of effort into looking good and look significantly better than most us/Canadian men in terms of fashion and grooming I think this holds true...so no, it’s not just how much they put in... And yes it’s a lot like an artist preferring to paint women over men....my point is that...ok let’s say everyone in the world were asexual and desire didn’t factor in..… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/02/21 03:36 PM |
| 1 | Has anyone considered that women are just more physically attractive than men objectively, and that’s why there appears to be an imbalance in how many can get dates?...more people are attracted to women...I this as a bicurious woman Exactly! My point is that almost every woman I know has felt “bicurious” at some point (some don’t admit it but express it in other ways) including myself. Still most people aren’t gay (the % of the population that is is quite small, and % bi/queer is slightly larger than that but still under 10% in the US, I don’t know about other countries but I imagine it appears even smaller since being openly gay here is easier than in a lo… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/02/21 03:27 PM |
| 2 | Has anyone considered that women are just more physically attractive than men objectively, and that’s why there appears to be an imbalance in how many can get dates?As someone who has traveled I’ll agree to what you said about people taking bad care of themselves in the us/Canada (where I’m from) compared to other places but even in Europe where more people of all genders put effort into their looks...a female 6 is more beautiful objectively than a male 6. That doesn’t mean more attractive, because attraction depends on your sexuality...but more beautiful aesthetically. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/02/21 08:58 AM |
| 3 | Has anyone considered that women are just more physically attractive than men objectively, and that’s why there appears to be an imbalance in how many can get dates?Well I wasn’t including personality traits...I was talking about physical beauty but it sounds like you just kind of hate women...and no I’m not gay I’m happily married to a man, I don’t find women sexually attractive I just appreciate female beauty as most other women do. And humans are like 60% genetically similar to bananas...you can have most of the same genes and look pretty different. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/02/21 08:49 AM |
| 1 | Has anyone considered that women are just more physically attractive than men objectively, and that’s why there appears to be an imbalance in how many can get dates?Yes and we do that because we compare ourselves to each other/the models we’re given if “beauty”...and men also compare us | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/02/21 08:47 AM |
| 3 | Has anyone considered that women are just more physically attractive than men objectively, and that’s why there appears to be an imbalance in how many can get dates?All animals crave sex. Otherwise we wouldn’t be driven to reproduce...male and female both...and yes eventually both men and women lower their standards when they get horny/lonely enough but I’m not sure that’s the point | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/02/21 08:45 AM |
| 1 | Has anyone considered that women are just more physically attractive than men objectively, and that’s why there appears to be an imbalance in how many can get dates?I did just Google image “dad bod” and it was definitely normal guys...and then also one photo of Jason Mamoa but it was about him being a dad...with a nice bod. I think you’ve just heard people talk about hot guys in Hollywood who are dad age as “dad bods” and gotten sensitive about it...I’m also sure maybe tabloid refer to those people that way but they also talk about how Angelina Jolie is an old hag now and shes one of the most beautiful people ever. Ask any girl over 25 to give you an exampl… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/02/21 08:43 AM |
| -1 | Has anyone considered that women are just more physically attractive than men objectively, and that’s why there appears to be an imbalance in how many can get dates?Hah, ok. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/02/21 08:38 AM |
| 5 | Has anyone considered that women are just more physically attractive than men objectively, and that’s why there appears to be an imbalance in how many can get dates?Actually humans have evolved for high paternal investment in offspring (almost as much as maternal investment) so while that theory works for some other species...not so much for people. There’s been a lot of selection in H. sapiens for child rearing by both parents and monogamy...I could go into it all if you want but it’s a longer conversation. Women are more selective because sex is a riskier act for them (both becuase of accidental pregnancy and social stigma). We desire sex just as much as … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/02/21 08:37 AM |
| 1 | Has anyone considered that women are just more physically attractive than men objectively, and that’s why there appears to be an imbalance in how many can get dates?I’ve NEVER heard any of those men you listed used as examples of “dad bod.” I’ve only ever heard it used about real life normal guys who are a little chubby...and yeah some girls are into a little chubby. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/02/21 08:29 AM |
| 4 | Has anyone considered that women are just more physically attractive than men objectively, and that’s why there appears to be an imbalance in how many can get dates?You brought it up...and then made it into a topic of conversation...And there was no “show” mentioned but yes...I presume that if you see a person on tv that person has had make up done...I know a large number of people in the behind the scenes of that industry and that’s what I’ve come to learn... Haha, and no I’m not gay...if I were I wouldn’t be ashamed of it I live somewhere it’s pretty acceptable, but I’m happily married to a man. If you want to use the cop out of “she’s just a closet lesbi… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/02/21 08:28 AM |
| 1 | Has anyone considered that women are just more physically attractive than men objectively, and that’s why there appears to be an imbalance in how many can get dates?I feel like most women agree even women who are not gay or sexually attracted to other women. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/02/21 08:21 AM |
| 4 | Has anyone considered that women are just more physically attractive than men objectively, and that’s why there appears to be an imbalance in how many can get dates?it literally shows them putting it on and washing it off Yeah they get tv hair/make up done off screen constantly and then touch up a little on their own or it’s scripted but they very obviously were already wearing make up or get it done off screen after. a large amount of women are butt ugly without make up Compared to other women maybe, but female “ugly” is different than male “ugly” is my point And no, I’m not gay...like I said I’ve tried it cuz I wished I were but ladies don’t do it for me. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/02/21 08:17 AM |
| 1 | Has anyone considered that women are just more physically attractive than men objectively, and that’s why there appears to be an imbalance in how many can get dates?some men like fat women same can’t be said for men. “Dad bod” is a trend. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/02/21 08:12 AM |
| 4 | Has anyone considered that women are just more physically attractive than men objectively, and that’s why there appears to be an imbalance in how many can get dates?Yeah I know it’s irrelevant but I responded to make up on reality tv as an example...and you think those girls do their own make up? Bless your heart. And in my second sentence said pretty much exactly what you did,..that a lot of women do wear too much make up on real life and most of them are prettier without it or with less of it...so the point still holds. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/02/21 08:10 AM |
| -12 | Has anyone considered that women are just more physically attractive than men objectively, and that’s why there appears to be an imbalance in how many can get dates?No it’s just comparing two samples...them being objectively more attractive is saying that Almost everyone would agree with me that the woman is prettier...even straight people who aren’t looking at her sexually. Sure that’s not true objectivity if you want to talk on the level of what “objective” is beyond group consensus then we can’t call the color blue objectively blue either. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/02/21 08:06 AM |
| 5 | Has anyone considered that women are just more physically attractive than men objectively, and that’s why there appears to be an imbalance in how many can get dates?Well men who dress fashionable wear pants and shirts that accentuate specific things....fewer of them put effort into their dress true...but I think it’s true even naked... If you’re close enough to notice a guy is attractive you can see his jaw | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/02/21 08:03 AM |
| 2 | Has anyone considered that women are just more physically attractive than men objectively, and that’s why there appears to be an imbalance in how many can get dates?Beauty isn’t just about weight... And I’m not talking about pictures I’m talking about people you see...and the test would be looking at comparable ones, so an overweight woman (in your example) next to an overweight man...I’d rather look at the woman. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/02/21 08:02 AM |
| 2 | Has anyone considered that women are just more physically attractive than men objectively, and that’s why there appears to be an imbalance in how many can get dates?Not the point. The point is that “average” for a female body is a different level of visual aesthetic than “average” for a male body... | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/02/21 08:00 AM |
| 3 | Has anyone considered that women are just more physically attractive than men objectively, and that’s why there appears to be an imbalance in how many can get dates?I’d you go to fds I don’t agree with those folks either...but your point supports mine...almost all straight women would pretty much all end up with people that look less good than they do becuase most men look less good than most women...even really good looking ones. As for generalizations... all I see on this forum is generalizations...TRP is entirely about generalizations of men/women. And beyond that...I’m not saying objectively more attractive...I’m saying objectively more visually appeali… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/02/21 07:57 AM |
| 5 | Has anyone considered that women are just more physically attractive than men objectively, and that’s why there appears to be an imbalance in how many can get dates?Well on TV/ movies everyone has pounds of make up on...the men do too...that’s part of TV... In real life a lot of women wear make up and men don’t...but I actually think almost all women look better with less or no make up. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/02/21 07:49 AM |
| 1 | As a man you have the privilege of compensating with other attributes other than looks, and dating attractive women. While women can't really do the same.most women tend to overrate their appearance Who decides the rating system and where do you get “top 1% are 8-10” anyway? It is funny that you’re making statements about my appearance when you’ve never seen me. You can call me a 6 if you want though it’s all arbitrary and relative anyway...compared to Penelope Cruz I’m probably like a 2...but where are you getting 1% of the population and that’s the picture you show? She’s very pretty, but not prettier than 99% of the population, honestly if tha… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/02/21 07:43 AM |
| 1 | As a man you have the privilege of compensating with other attributes other than looks, and dating attractive women. While women can't really do the same.I’m a woman: I agree with you somewhat but not completely. I think men can compensate with specifically status/finances in a way women can’t as effectively. Men don’t have to be billionaires to get “points” for financial stability: they can be upper-middle class (doctors, lawyers) and that appeals to women. Women who have extreme wealth (millionaire+) might attract men later in life based on their money who just want to be taken care of, but really money doesn’t draw men to women at all. I do th… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/02/21 06:13 AM |
| 1 | Would you be happy with a romantic, caring, and compassionate relationship, with absolutely no sex ?Bless your heart...That’s called a friendship...and yes there’s a lot of value in it, but i wouldn’t have kids with that person and I’d date someone else. And I’m not sure how something can be “romantic” if there’s no possibility of physical intimacy. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/02/21 05:58 AM |
| 8 | Exactly how is casual sex different from sex within a relationship? And which one is "better" to you?I’ve done a lot of both. I used to be pretty promiscuous, but began monogamously dating someone when I was 26 who I am now married to. Sex with someone you know/trust is significantly better. If you know someone well, you know how to communicate with them and predict what they want. Trusting someone (which only comes with time together) also means you feel comfortable with that person and so are more willing to be adventurous sexually/try things you wouldn’t with a casual partner. Furthermore, w… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/02/21 05:54 AM |
| 7 | Monogamous relationships aren't the cure for the "desire" problem for men who can't have casual sex, they are simply the only realm where they are toleratedSo I’ve been in both worlds...in my late teens and early 20s I had a lot of casual sex...beginning in my mid 20s I slowed down and ultimately committed to someone long term. The thing about casual sex is it gets repetitive and boring, and starts to feel empty after awhile. It’s law of diminishing returns, the more you do it the less you get out of it...People who have never had it long term romanticize/glorify it, and don’t understand how anyone could choose to give that up in favor of commitmen… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/02/21 05:44 AM |
| 4 | Monogamous relationships aren't the cure for the "desire" problem for men who can't have casual sex, they are simply the only realm where they are toleratedif you’re not having regular sex through college and in your early 20s your sex life isn’t going to take a magical turn in your late 20s-30s This is just not true. People who don’t get laid all the time in college aren’t all repulsive. Some are simply serious about concentrating on their studies/focusing elsewhere and may not have spent their college years partying and meeting people. For these types of people, their sex lives ABSOLUTELY may turn around once they don’t have the stress/time commi… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/02/21 05:36 AM |
| 1 | What's the average body count for men and women?How does that count but an experience with no penetration in which both people orgasm doesn’t? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/02/21 04:47 PM |
| 5 | When are women racking up these huge n counts?You know people with morals can still want to explore sexuality right? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/02/21 04:46 PM |
| 1 | Would you trade places?Something is better than nothing but my point is you see a situation as “something” that’s actually just another form of nothing...and you didn’t answer my other question about the hypothetical repulsive woman... It’s not like a well vs running water, it’s like if you have no running water or well and someone reminds you that you can, in fact, drink your own piss to stay alive...and yes if it were a life or death situation like water is you might do it but it would NOT be enjoyable in any way, a… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/02/21 02:29 AM |
| 1 | Would you trade places?An ANALOGY is comparing two things using like specifically to make an explanatory point. That’s what you did. A simile is descriptive not explanatory, but yes that’s nit picky I just couldn’t resist when someone pulled the sarcastic “it’s a simile dumb dumb” line when it was not one. And ok you got me, I assumed when you said “running water” you meant “drinking water of any kind.” Still, your analogy is poor because a clean well is still water you can drink just fine. You’re talking about men wh… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/02/21 02:24 AM |
| 2 | Wait, why do a lot of you believe that men don't respect women (including women they love)?Yeah, I think it’s a good start it’s just going to take time and continued effort | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/02/21 02:11 AM |
| 1 | Would you trade places?I see what you believe the connection is and I believe it’s not equivalent for the reasons I already stated. And what would the “well” be in your analogy exactly? I don’t think that addition really changes anything. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/02/21 02:10 AM |
| 1 | Would you trade places?Say it with me “Inappropriate simile.” Also...not a simile. It was an ANALOGY and yes, still an inappropriate one. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/02/21 02:06 AM |
| 1 | How to keep a girl interested in texting and ultimately get her to go out with you?Glad to help! | /r/seduction | 12/02/21 01:25 AM |
| 1 | Wait, why do a lot of you believe that men don't respect women (including women they love)?It really does...and that will take generations of people being aware of it and trying actively to raise their kids differently. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/02/21 01:25 AM |
| 1 | Would you trade places?It’s not like a person in a developed nation needing water because sex is not something you will literally die if you don’t have. It might be something you FEEL like you’ll die without, but you won’t actually physically die. My point is that many of the girls you envy having all those “options” don’t see those guys as options. A person you are in no way interested in or attracted to is not an option, he’s a chore. Have you ever tried sleeping with someone you’re in no way attracted to? Your body… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/02/21 01:24 AM |
| 1 | Q4Women: What Don't You Understand About MenIt’s really not about sympathizing. I actually believe men sympathize with the issues they are able to observe adequately, like the one you cited: men can understand when a woman says it’s scary to walk alone at night. They see statistics about how many women are attacked each year, they hear horror stories, and sympathize with it. The issues I’m talking about are the ones that it seems like they actually CAN’T see and the very point of it is that women actually DON’T want sympathy, we DO want t… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/02/21 01:10 AM |
| 1 | What's the average body count for men and women?I think it depends on the situation...I wouldn’t consider just a BJ sex objectively but if it was in bed both naked maybe reciprocated both ways, maybe other stuff happened too and both of us came just not penis penetration...I’d probably consider that sex, just not penetrative sex. There’s a reason they call it “oral sex” it’s oral...sex. I also have had some penetrative sex that sort of didn’t count...for example, If you try to fuck but the dude was drinking and can’t get it up but maybe it wa… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/02/21 11:44 PM |
| 18 | How to keep a girl interested in texting and ultimately get her to go out with you?This wasn’t directed at me but I’m gonna answer (I’m a woman). Not everyone is around all the time just because of the pandemic. Some of us are not actually out of work/working from home right now, she could be one. Not everyone likes to text a lot. When my husband and I were dating we’d usually end up talking every day but it would often just be a couple of texts, and neither one of us is on our phone all day so we rarely got back to each other right away. One of the things that made me like hi… | /r/seduction | 11/02/21 11:28 PM |
| 3 | How to keep a girl interested in texting and ultimately get her to go out with you?The best thing you can do is follow her lead. if you’re texting and a conversation ends don’t freak out and double/triple text. It’s annoying. People forget when they’re texting that the person on the other end of the phone is probably doing other things at the same time and may get distracted/stop texting without saying goodbye just because something pulls them away (maybe they just met up with a friend, have to check out at the grocery store, are driving). When men respond to silence with mult… | /r/seduction | 11/02/21 11:19 PM |
| 3 | Men and women are more similar than RP people often think, and more different than BP people often think.Very much does that too, and when it doesn’t it’s kind of offensive. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/02/21 10:54 PM |
| 2 | Is the fear of being alone and wanting childrens enough to keep the relationship lasting? (Practically speaking)If that’s the only reason then no, better to be alone. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/02/21 09:11 PM |
| 1 | Would you trade places?Yes. I usually approach anyway. I would like men to experience what this “abundance of options” they’re all jealous of really is, because I honestly would love to not have to deal with trying to explain to all the guys I don’t want why I don’t want them and them constantly and still be texted every few months just because I maybe talked to them once. Like I’d trade that for some rejection in a minute. I’d love to not have to worry about getting assaulted or pregnant constantly. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/02/21 09:08 PM |
| 1 | Whining about not having sex as much as other men is a form of entitlement.It definitely is and it’s also VERY unattractive and makes it so no one will have sex with you and so a self fulfilling prophesy | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/02/21 09:06 PM |
| 1 | What's the average body count for men and women?I think people count the experiences they’ve considered sex. So it might be different for everyone, but sex is different for different people so it has to be. I’ve had experiences without penis in vagina penetration that I would still consider sex. I don’t go by the “lord’s standard” that’s Catholic nonsense. If it’s just penis in vagina then the Christian girls who say they’re still virgins as long as they only do it in the butt maybe have like 0. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/02/21 09:02 PM |
| 5 | What's the average body count for men and women?True. I don’t lie, I think women with higher numbers don’t lie. Women with medium-low numbers often lie to say lower. Almost all men lie to say higher. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/02/21 08:58 PM |
| 1 | What's the average body count for men and women?I’m in my early 30s: More than half the people I know it’s between 6 and 10 with men slightly higher than women. That said, still a fair number of the other half are between 11 and 20 somewhere (more on the side of 11 than 29 though), with a smaller proportion above 20. Weirdly though, number of men and women I know above 20 are actually about equal... | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/02/21 08:58 PM |
| 3 | Do women want to be told why a guy they like isn't dating them yet?Yes, but don’t be aggressive or emotional about it. Most people who think women don’t like direct communication are being aggressive/emotional while communicating not actually direct. Just say how you feel and don’t blame her, just tell her that a thing she did made you feel bad in whatever way and listen when she responds. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/02/21 08:54 PM |
| 1 | It's true beauty standards change depending on time and culture, but only for women...there was a time when being a hyper effeminate male was growing in popularity and it was stamped out I don’t watch anime really but every time I’ve seen anime (which I assume is targeted towards teenagers?) theres a “sexy” mysterious male character that looks like a woman with delicate/ “beautiful” features and a soft voice... so I would argue that that must be valued and viewed as attractive maybe in Japanese culture to a degree? I don’t know much about it like I said but where would that trope… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/02/21 08:50 PM |
| 1 | Q4Women: What Don't You Understand About Menwell of course not, we’re men.. My point is...ok I’m Black, I’ll never know what it’s like to experience life as, I don’t know, a Latina woman but just by looking around at the world, when latinas talk about the way the world treats them differently as latinas I can look at that and reflect and say “ok yeah, I can see where and how that happens” even if I’ve never experienced it myself and maybe haven’t thought about it before. It seems like a lot (not all) men actually DON’T see misogyny even w… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/02/21 08:39 PM |
| 1 | Men and women are more similar than RP people often think, and more different than BP people often think.Yeah, I was referring to those differences...they come from psychology and biology, and that’s the way they’re usually explained by “pill” people. And I’m not talking about basic functions...I’m talking about specifically in the way they interact with members of the oppositesex/what they want/how they think | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/02/21 08:19 PM |
| 1 | Can women be truly satisfied if they marry a somewhat physically attractive man?I think most women don’t choose their husband based on looks alone. Even girls who choose their sex partners based on looks aren’t going to marry a guy just because he’s hot... When men see women with guys that in their minds are “moderately attractive” those guys are probably very attractive to the women they’re with. Whether that attraction is physical or not doesn’t matter...they’re attractive if your definition of “attractive” is “someone who turns you on” not “objectively beautiful.” I have… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/02/21 08:17 PM |
| 4 | When are women racking up these huge n counts?Yeah and whatever people do before their mid 20s in my mind kind of doesn’t count. Your teens are a confusing time. People experiment with sex/drugs they dont understand in order to grow and mature. I fucked a lot of people between 16 and 23, and a few just as a byproduct of short-term relationships that didn’t go anywhere for a couple of years after that. Since I was 26 it’s just been one dick solid and we got married two years ago (I’m 32 now). I didn’t settle down because I wanted children or… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/02/21 08:09 PM |
| 1 | What aspect of the opposite sex are you jealous of? Other commenters, does that jealousy make sense to you?I’m a woman I’m jealous of men for the ability to pee outside whenever they want wherever they want discreetly and blowjobs. Oh and I wish anyone in the world REALLY cared about any sport i participated in my whole life as much as they would if I were a dude. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/02/21 07:57 PM |
| 2 | Q4Women: What Don't You Understand About MenThe thing I have trouble understanding is how a lot of men seem really not to see that institutional misogyny still exists in western countries in 2021. I see so many men talk about it as though it’s a thing of the past, because women “have all the opportunities men have” but really have no concept of what it’s like to actually BE a woman trying to take advantage of those new opportunities and how the inequality is VERY MUCH still there. It seems so apparent to me, but a lot of men seem actually… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/02/21 07:54 PM |
| 1 | Women, why do you even care if your bf breaks up with you? You have sooooo many options nowadaysThat’s like saying if you have a fine filet mignon all ready for dinner and someone takes it away from you you shouldn’t be upset because there’s a Macdonald’s every couple blocks with a Big Mac you could have like any time you want. Just because a lot of PPD men are desperate enough to not know the difference between a quality relationship with one person you love and the hundreds of shitheads you could probably fuck on tinder doesn’t mean everyone equates those things as even comparable. A mil… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/02/21 07:48 PM |
| 4 | Do women want to be told why a guy they like isn't dating them yet?If a guy isn’t acting on it but I know he’s interested I just assume he has a girlfriend but thinks I’m cute anyway/can’t help acting flirty. If I’m interested too and don’t know that for sure I’ll tell him I’m interested and hope he will be honest if that is the case. But yeah if you like someone be direct. Not pushy, direct...ask the woman out and if she says no accept you probably misinterpreted the “vibe” and move on. Same if they do something you don’t like: be direct, not rude/aggressive/e… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/02/21 07:43 PM |
| 6 | Men and women are more similar than RP people often think, and more different than BP people often think.See I just disagree that men don’t do this...I see so many men who are overweight (for example) turn down women based on their bodies. It’s all over dating apps, and also real life. There are a lot of shallow/picky people in the world: men and women both. “Pill” guys on here just get meet a bunch of them (probably on tinder/apps which sort of lend themselves to shallowness) and then want to make claims about woman-kind based on it. Since they are straight men, they’re only meeting straight women… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/02/21 07:38 PM |
| 3 | Men and women are more similar than RP people often think, and more different than BP people often think.Yeah I don’t agree with every one of your specifics but I agree with your overall statement: Men and women ARE different psychologically/biologically...they are also not different SPECIES and similar in more ways than they are different. Moreover, neither men nor women are a monolith... WOMEN are different from each other, MEN are different from each other...and not just a little different, HUGELY different depending on their culture/upbringing/life experiences. Some women have more in common wi… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/02/21 07:27 PM |
| 3 | Wait, why do a lot of you believe that men don't respect women (including women they love)?I think there’s a difference between “respecting” someone as a person and being RESPECTFUL to that person. I find that a lot of men respect women/their girlfriends and wives in theory, but are not always respectful to them...that could take a lot of forms, some are very overt but many are accidental: not taking a woman seriously when she talks, or assuming that she means something she isn’t directly saying, viewing women as defensive/shrill when they stand up for themselves or voice their opinio… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/02/21 07:20 PM |
| 1 | Are women who are “addicted” to erotica/smutty romance novels/fanfiction equal to men who obsessively watch porn?What are you defining as a porn “addiction?” Lots of people watch porn, men and women do it...men are more willing to admit to it openly, but i’d say the female equivalent of a man watching a lot of porn is a woman watching a lot of porn. The male equivalent of a woman reading smut romance novels would be a man reading smut romance novels, which I think is much less common than women watching porn. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/02/21 06:06 PM |
| 1 | The reason why women can’t admit that dating is OBJECTIVELY harder for men is because they feel it’s an attack on their right to complainI mean yeah, there are steps to prevent it, there are also steps you can take to make it more likely to get dates successfully as a man... The point is just that neither men nor women have an “easy time” dating. Dating is hard (for both) it’s also sometimes fun (for both) and sometimes frustrating (for both). | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/01/21 06:40 PM |
| 1 | The reason why women can’t admit that dating is OBJECTIVELY harder for men is because they feel it’s an attack on their right to complainI’m not saying you’ve never been afraid for your life/safety, of course you have as have most people. I’m asking if when you go on dates a dominant thought in your head is “this woman might sexually assault or rape me and I might be powerless to stop it.” Most men would say no I think. I have four brothers and a lot of male friends none of whom have that fear and all of whom understand that women experience that in a way men don’t. I guess with online dating there’s the risk of being catfished/r… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/01/21 06:30 PM |
| 1 | The reason why women can’t admit that dating is OBJECTIVELY harder for men is because they feel it’s an attack on their right to complainEverything youre saying is just proving my point: as a man, apart from maybe being afraid of getting REALLY hammered and making a bad impression, do you ever feel like you need to choose not to drink when you go out with someone for your safety? Do you ever feel like you have to limit what spaces you’ll go for safety? Do you ever feel like if a woman asks you back to her apartment on a first date you might be at risk of being raped/assaulted? You’re acting like it’s easy to be in a situation whe… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/01/21 05:54 PM |
| 1 | The reason why women can’t admit that dating is OBJECTIVELY harder for men is because they feel it’s an attack on their right to complainWhy do you think they get blocked instantly? Because women have to deal with that shit all the time so they HAVE to do that (it’s a symptom of that problem). Then those dudes probably call said women “bitches” or “teases” or “over reactive” whatever behind their backs. And how do you think those rapes in college dorm rooms happen? Women get drugged/intoxicated in public places and taken back to private ones when their inhibitions are low. Also the point isn’t how to prevent assaults/harassment. … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/01/21 05:20 PM |
| 1 | The reason why women can’t admit that dating is OBJECTIVELY harder for men is because they feel it’s an attack on their right to complainKnowing someone who has been raped isn’t the same as understanding what it’s like to have to think about those precautions as a real possibility every time you meet someone new...and even on the lesser level than actual rape/assault, having to deal with the fact that if you do choose to meet or even talk to a guy and you decide you’re not interested, it’s likely you’ll have to deal with that person to whatever degree not hearing that and becoming “persistent” (texting just to test the waters con… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/01/21 05:07 PM |
| 1 | The reason why women can’t admit that dating is OBJECTIVELY harder for men is because they feel it’s an attack on their right to complainYeah, it is fun, also scary, I’ve seen plenty of dudes comparing swipes too I don’t think that tells me a lot about what actually goes on in their dating lives/how they feel dating. That’s just what friends do. Also plenty of people get date raped by the affluent/college campuses (which are safe public places full of affluent people) are a hotspot for assault. If you’re not a woman and you haven’t lived it, you don’t understand. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/01/21 04:54 PM |
| 0 | Women feel the same way about men they’re not attracted to as men feel about gay men.Yeah or the way men feel about women they’re not attracted to probably. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/01/21 03:23 PM |
| 1 | The reason why women can’t admit that dating is OBJECTIVELY harder for men is because they feel it’s an attack on their right to complainIt’s not about what does or doesn’t happen/how to potentially avoid rape/assault, it’s the fact we have to BE afraid/even think about those things before deciding to go out with someone , the way you’re talking about it makes it really clear you don’t understand (which was basically my point to begin with...that fear is something most men will never experience and so don’t get/see as a real difficulty). Not to mention apart from the fear the social stigmas that come with dating for women: when y… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/01/21 01:45 PM |
| 2 | The reason why women can’t admit that dating is OBJECTIVELY harder for men is because they feel it’s an attack on their right to complainYeah equal wasn’t really the right word just different difficulties. What I meant is there are difficulties on both sides and there’s no “objectively easier” as OP suggested because the stressors are so different and really impossible to to understand if you haven’t loved it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/01/21 10:04 PM |
| 3 | The reason why women can’t admit that dating is OBJECTIVELY harder for men is because they feel it’s an attack on their right to complainIt’s really just different: Women don’t know what it’s like to feel the pressure to “drive” and initiate in dating is all with them/have financial obligations in dating put on them. Men don’t know what it’s like to feel like if you’re going out with someone for the first time you should share you location on your phone with a friend and bring pepper spray just in case. And yeah “equal” was the wrong word, but it’s not “objectively easier” for anyone. Just different. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/01/21 10:02 PM |
| 1 | The reason why women can’t admit that dating is OBJECTIVELY harder for men is because they feel it’s an attack on their right to complainI just think there’s nothing about it that’s objectively harder. I’m not afraid to admit that in some ways dating is harder for men, in some ways it’s harder for women, but the ways in which it’s difficult are so different that it’s like apples and oranges. A lot of men don’t see or understand the difficulty women have because it’s so outside anything they have/will ever experience and visa versa for women. Basically women don’t understand certain types of pressure men are under, men don’t under… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/01/21 09:04 PM |
| 3 | ~90% of school teachers are women. How do you feel about this with regards to the healthy development of masculine/feminine identity and social dynamics in both boys AND girls?A lot of teachers are women because it’s one of the first jobs women were allowed to have and so has always been female dominated. Many more school administrators/higher ups are men, so it’s not like boys don’t interact with men at school. I believe 90% female maybe for younger kids. What about high schools? Even though I’m sure it’s still more women is it really that big of a difference for older kids? Maybe it was just my high school but I had a bunch of male teachers, especially in math/scien… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/01/21 08:57 PM |
| 1 | It's not that women are saying being nice is arousing, it's that they are saying they don't like jerks or assholes, but end up with an asshole anywayThey really dont think it’s attractive though, at best some women over look or don’t notice at first when guys are moderate jerks if they’re attractive enough, the same way dudes overlook or don’t notice at first when women are mentally unstable, high maintenance, or bitchy if they’re hot enough. Sometimes lust makes people dumb (regardless of gender) but they’re not actually attracted to shittiness. And if someone is bad enough (actually abusive/psycho) and it shows then even if they’re really … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/01/21 02:24 PM |
| 0 | It's not that women are saying being nice is arousing, it's that they are saying they don't like jerks or assholes, but end up with an asshole anywayyou misunderstand women find the personality of a jerk unattractive Isn’t this opposite of what you were saying? I agree most women do find jerks unattractive. sex is pretty simple to get good at it just takes experience I think it takes listening. I’ve been with dudes with a ton of experience who were terrible at it, and some with less experience that were great. Being good at sex is mostly about paying attention, and no it’s not hard to figure out. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/01/21 04:03 AM |
| -1 | It's not that women are saying being nice is arousing, it's that they are saying they don't like jerks or assholes, but end up with an asshole anywayWhat makes you think nice/respectful people can’t also be good in bed or attractive? I think it’s weird that PPD men seem to have this concept that men are either attractive jerks with sexual prowess or kind but unattractive/unable to satisfy. There are plenty of unattractive jerks, and plenty of nice hotties. What most women want is someone who is respectful AND attractive (whatever that means to whatever specific woman) AND good in bed. Doesn’t mean they have to be the MOST attractive man in t… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/01/21 12:18 AM |
| 0 | It's not that women are saying being nice is arousing, it's that they are saying they don't like jerks or assholes, but end up with an asshole anywayIt’s usually not intentional ignoring. A lot of guys act nice at first when they want to fuck you. Some guys do it on purpose to get something, others don’t even realize they’re doing it, but their desire for a lady makes them act differently naturally. Whether or not a guy has a “reputation” as a jerk, if he seems nice/respectful when you meet him, a lot of women will want to give him a chance anyway. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/01/21 12:07 AM |
| 1 | It's not that women are saying being nice is arousing, it's that they are saying they don't like jerks or assholes, but end up with an asshole anywayI put a post up that said pretty much this the other day and it got taken down. Yes, you’re absolutely correct. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/01/21 11:36 PM |
| 1 | Most guys who self-describe as “nice/good guys” aren’t really that nice/good. This is one reason they often don’t understand that being a “good guy” actually does make women like you more.I told you, I don’t think those studies really proved anything. I could take you through why one at a time but I know you’ll disagree and we’ll end up at the impasse of you thinking your research is solid and me thinking it’s flawed and that’s a pointless conversation. The major reason is the same for all of them, and it’s a reason I’ve already stated: doing a scientific analysis of what’s attractive to people in the wad most of those studies did is complex and can be misleading, due to the fact… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/01/21 11:33 PM |
| 1 | Most guys who self-describe as “nice/good guys” aren’t really that nice/good. This is one reason they often don’t understand that being a “good guy” actually does make women like you more.Not agreeing with your attempt to change my view isn’t ignoring. This was a CMV, meaning I’m open to an argument that’s more effective than what I’ve heard so far. That argument hasn’t been presented yet so my view remains unchanged. Just because you haven’t succeeded doesn’t mean I’m ignoring you. If I were there wouldn’t be a rather lengthy thread of exchange between us. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/01/21 11:19 PM |
| 1 | Most guys who self-describe as “nice/good guys” aren’t really that nice/good. This is one reason they often don’t understand that being a “good guy” actually does make women like you more.The ones you sent a couple messages ago? Yeah I did I didn’t respond to them because for various reasons I don’t think they disprove my point at all, but I’ve learned better than to argue with people on PPD about what their research does and doesn’t prove. Doing real science about this stuff is incredibly complicated, because attraction is so subjective, as is who someone would call “nice” or a “good guy.” That’s what we’ve been talking about here. People see things in the individuals they date … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/01/21 07:26 PM |
| 1 | Most guys who self-describe as “nice/good guys” aren’t really that nice/good. This is one reason they often don’t understand that being a “good guy” actually does make women like you more.I think you’ll find that if a woman knows a man has been to jail for beating a woman, she will probably not go near him. No ones attracted to abusive behavior. Not everyone in jail is a wife-beater. A ton of people are really just there because they’re Black and like...smoked a joint once | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/01/21 06:11 PM |
| 1 | Most guys who self-describe as “nice/good guys” aren’t really that nice/good. This is one reason they often don’t understand that being a “good guy” actually does make women like you more.1It’s not a misrepresentation of my argument. It literally was my argument. I didn’t say they’re all assholes, just that they may or may not be as nice as they think they are. Peoples perceptions of themselves often don’t line up with what the outside world perceives. And ok, other people have had this same idea before. look at any post on any forum over a few months and you’ll see people with similar ideas. Doesn’t invalidate it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/01/21 06:06 PM |
| 0 | Women aren't "lying" about what they find sexually arousing.Successful career is different from money. A man is a mooch if he’s seeking a woman with money. A woman is a gold digger if she’s seeking a man with money. Bad look for both sexes. Both men and women are respected for going after people with ambition (professional success), though male success is more expected/men ARE more likely to be looked down upon for being unemployed/underemployed than women, who sometimes actually have a harder time dating if they’re ambitious/successful for a variety of … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/01/21 06:06 PM |
| 7 | Women aren't "lying" about what they find sexually arousing.Also a lot of women are being totally honest and are just told they’re lying because what they’re saying doesn’t fit the male perception of what women “should” be like based on whatever articles they’ve read that week. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/01/21 06:01 PM |
| 3 | Women aren't "lying" about what they find sexually arousing.Women get judged for not wanting fat men too. There’s a reason no one turns a guy down and freely admits it’s because he’s fat, just like men don’t freely admit they turn women down based on their weight, and it is much harder to be a fat girl than a fat boy, just like it’s harder to be a short boy than short girl. Women are judged more harshly for weight, men for height. Men can be a little chubby and not even be called fat. Women are fat if there’s ANY weight on them at all. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/01/21 05:57 PM |
| 0 | Women aren't "lying" about what they find sexually arousing.A lot of people are attracted to nice men with senses of humor whether or not that’s PC. It doesn’t mean there aren’t a bunch of other traits on the list, some of which might be more shallow, but that doesn’t discount the validity of those two. When those two are listed, it usually means those are the two the women ended up valuing most on whatever men they’ve dated (which may or may not even be the ones that initially attracted them on date 1). Sense of humor is actually sexually attractive to … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/01/21 05:56 PM |
| 1 | Women aren't "lying" about what they find sexually arousing.Yes, exactly. Nice doesn’t get men laid, being not nice or less nice keeps them from getting laid, and most women do EXPECT men they sleep with to be nice whether or not it was the characteristic that attracted them: I know no one on PPD wants to believe it but women DO turn down guys who approach them in shitty/disrespectful ways even if they’re good looking, and women do want good/nice guys both for sex and LTRs whether or not they’re sexually aroused by that characteristic in itself. Also, “n… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/01/21 05:36 PM |
| 1 | Most guys who self-describe as “nice/good guys” aren’t really that nice/good. This is one reason they often don’t understand that being a “good guy” actually does make women like you more.What you’re seeing is, like I said, that women like interesting people. They ALSO like nice/respectful people. “Nice” doesn’t necessarily mean perfectly law abiding/rule following/upstanding citizen. “Nice” means guys that are respectful to women and treat them like people. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/01/21 12:10 PM |
| 1 | Women tend to be more interested in taken men.It doesn’t matter if he’s attractive or not she lost interest in you and was interested in him (thus he was attractive to her). Girls don’t like guys just because they’re taken. They ignore that the guy is taken if they want him badly enough for other reasons. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/01/21 12:08 PM |
| 1 | Most guys who self-describe as “nice/good guys” aren’t really that nice/good. This is one reason they often don’t understand that being a “good guy” actually does make women like you more.if a nice guy doesn’t get any it’s because he wasn’t really nice I never said that either. I never said it was the only thing women like, there’s no one thing that gets you laid, it’s always a combination of things that makes a guy attractive. What I’m saying is that it DOES matter, and that being disrespectful to women makes it less likely you’ll get laid...though some jerks have figured this out and can fake it for a short time to get what they want. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/01/21 12:06 PM |
| 1 | Most guys who self-describe as “nice/good guys” aren’t really that nice/good. This is one reason they often don’t understand that being a “good guy” actually does make women like you more.Yeah but my point is someones legal standing isn’t what women are talking about. Women care how men treat women, that’s what they mean by “nice.” There are dudes who have been to jail, deal drugs, etc...and still treat their wives well. They might not be societally “nice” but they’re nice to women. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/01/21 11:55 AM |
| 1 | Most guys who self-describe as “nice/good guys” aren’t really that nice/good. This is one reason they often don’t understand that being a “good guy” actually does make women like you more.Haha, like several ppd comments a day are dudes being like “im a nice guy I don’t get laid for it but all my shit friends do etc etc etc” | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/01/21 11:55 AM |
| 1 | Most guys who self-describe as “nice/good guys” aren’t really that nice/good. This is one reason they often don’t understand that being a “good guy” actually does make women like you more.They’re not. They’re sometimes fooled by shitty people acting nice to get something as everyone can be | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/01/21 11:54 AM |
| 1 | Most guys who self-describe as “nice/good guys” aren’t really that nice/good. This is one reason they often don’t understand that being a “good guy” actually does make women like you more....I don’t think one can straw man a discussion one started. This WAS the topic, which I began and established not in response to someone else. That’s not a straw man. Please everyone on PPD learn what a straw man actually is. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/01/21 11:53 AM |
| 2 | Most guys who self-describe as “nice/good guys” aren’t really that nice/good. This is one reason they often don’t understand that being a “good guy” actually does make women like you more.Never really thought about that you’re right. Also I have a ton of tattoos I guess that makes me a “bad girl.” Hah, I just like body art. Yeah most women mean specifically that “good guys” treat women well. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/01/21 11:49 AM |
| 1 | Most guys who self-describe as “nice/good guys” aren’t really that nice/good. This is one reason they often don’t understand that being a “good guy” actually does make women like you more.Well people do understand that but sometimes folks are good enough at faking it it takes some time to realize the fake | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/01/21 11:47 AM |
| 2 | Most guys who self-describe as “nice/good guys” aren’t really that nice/good. This is one reason they often don’t understand that being a “good guy” actually does make women like you more.I’d say real altruism is a rare enough trait in people maybe you haven’t seen it much. But notice I didn’t say “get laid.” I said that when women ARE drawn to kindness it’s in an extreme, “drawn to” doesn’t necessarily mean sex immediately, but the more a woman is drawn to/comfortable around you the more likely it is she’ll find other aspects of your personality to like as well. I will say that not having that basic human decency in a way that’s clear does STOP women from wanting to fuck you, bu… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/01/21 10:34 AM |
| 5 | Q4W: Are you attracted to bad boys?I think attraction to “bad boys” is a misinterpretation. Most women who are mentally stable aren’t attracted to men who treat them badly/“neg” or abuse them, they’re attracted to interesting men, and men who aren’t trying too hard to appeal to women and from the perspective of self described “nice guys” who aren’t successful in dating this appears like women only like “bad boys”. The first trait (being interesting) could apply to men who are “good” or “bad,” it’s a separate scale, but sometimes … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/01/21 10:08 AM |
| 6 | One reason why Women are considered ‘complicated’ is because what attracts them changes constantly.have you ever heard a girl say “I like a confident guy but not too confident?” This is no different from men liking a girl to be available (not playing “hard to get”) but not too “clingy” or “needy.” they’ll be attracted to something trivial like his voice but then he’ll have a weird laugh and they’ll not be attracted This is no different from men calling a woman a “butter face:” he’s attracted to her body, but if her face is ugly he’s unattracted. meanwhile a guy will talk to a girl once and at… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/01/21 10:02 AM |
| 1 | Women don’t care about sex as much as men do.First of all, people have different sex drives. This is true of both men and women. As a woman, if I could go have sex whenever I wanted without consequences just to fulfill my physical desires I probably would. The thing is casual sex is a much bigger risk for women than men: there’s pregnancy, also the risk that you’ll change your mind about the person and the person won’t take no for an answer, and last that you’ll be called a slut/your promiscuity will be socially stigmatized. Because of tha… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/01/21 11:56 PM |
| 2 | Women tend to be more interested in taken men.Sounds like she just liked him better than you and doesn’t care about his status. I don’t think it’s about him being taken. She used “I don’t want a relationship” to be nice, she was actually just not interested in you but was in him. Probably would have been even if he were single. Sorry bud | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/01/21 11:49 PM |
| 0 | Women don't want or care about nice or kind traits in men. They want nice and kind behaviors from attractive men.They want nice and kind behaviors from everyone, but when two men are both kind and one is more attractive, they’ll choose the more attractive one. I don’t know why this is confusing. As for the point that it’s about how they act towards them and not others: this is true of both men and women. A lot of people act differently towards people they like, or are sexually attracted to, and a lot of people of both genders see that as “who they really are” whether or not it’s true. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/01/21 08:40 PM |
| 3 | Women are right about being to picky. That's the way of evolution.We do lots of things that are counter to our biological imperative. That’s not how evolution works really. You’re right women are right to be picky, but not because of biology: because women no longer rely on men as much for financial stability, meaning they have more ability to choose mates based on what they actually want, not just who will have them so they can be taken care of. We’ve always been this picky, we just only within the past few decades were given enough civil liberties to act on … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/01/21 08:35 PM |
| 2 | Q4Women: Which would you prefer, a talkative yet passionately distant man, or a non-talkative but passionate man?not necessarily but you can’t feel any raw desire or passion behind it I’m not sure I can imagine sex that’s good but doesn’t have those things. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/01/21 03:58 PM |
| 1 | Q4Women: Which would you prefer, a talkative yet passionately distant man, or a non-talkative but passionate man?I do know what you’re talking about, so sex but it’s bad and unfulfilling. I wouldn’t date either guy, I’d be friends with the talkative guy, wouldn’t bother with the other guy. Everyone is different though. Conversation is a huge part of attraction to me and I don’t think I could be attracted to someone I couldn’t talk to even if he was passionate. Some women don’t agree. Sexual compatibility still has to be there though. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/01/21 02:40 AM |
| 1 | Q4Women: Which would you prefer, a talkative yet passionately distant man, or a non-talkative but passionate man?Does he still like sex? That’s the question. I’d take talkative and sex and not a lot of intimacy/passion outside of sex over passion all the time but no conversation. If talkative and no sex though then that’s just a friendship. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/01/21 12:39 AM |
| 1 | Do you believe that women are sexually attracted to status?Everyone is attracted to status. It’s not always money, it might be social clout (“popular kids”), or talent that commands attention (musicians, artists, etc...). That doesn’t mean it’s the only or even biggest factor in attraction, but it is something that attracts most people. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/01/21 12:31 AM |
| 2 | Only a childfree relationship can be a relationship with true love and freedom for both - Your Opinion?Yeah, I don’t want kids and this is one reason. I don’t completely agree, because I think a relationship with children can include true love, but there’s no freedom and a lot of obligation once you get kids involved and it changes the dynamic even if the love is still there. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/01/21 12:29 AM |
| 1 | Q4Women: Which would you prefer, a talkative yet passionately distant man, or a non-talkative but passionate man?Probably talkative, because I rarely want to fuck someone I don’t have anything to say to, But if he really never wanted sex that wouldn’t work either. I guess it depends what you mean by “distant.” Do you mean he’s just not around a lot, or that he doesn’t ever want to be physical? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/01/21 12:27 AM |
| 1 | What is the ideal length for an exclusive relationshipThere’s no ideal length, it depends on the people involved. I’ve been in relationships that last less than a year and been miserable/resentful and bored. I’ve been with the person I’m with now for 6 years and am still very happy with him. When relationships last “too long” it’s either because one or both partners can’t communicate well, or because they just weren’t compatible to begin with and confused lust with love so once the lust faded there wasn’t anything left. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/01/21 12:24 AM |
| 1 | Which scenario is the most common when it comes to the reasons women divorce?They both sound a little outdated to me. I think most divorce happens because both partners fail to communicate when they’re unhappy and so repress issues rather than work through them. Then it all builds up until it’s too much to work through, they start fighting or resenting or even cheating and eventually split. The two things you talked about might be part of it, but so could a million other things. Marriage and LTRs require maintenance and people tend to forget that/start taking each other … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/01/21 12:22 AM |
| 1 | What are some actions or things people say that they think helps an issue revolving around men/women but in reality couldn't be furthur from the truth and what do you think would actually solve the issue they think their trying to fix?About men: That men want women to “play hard to get.” -this is just stupid. Don’t play hard to get, just have a full enough life and your own shit going on enough that you’re not seeking every bit of your happiness from a guy and don’t need their time 100% of the time. I think the myth that men like “hard to get” women comes from the fact that no one likes needy people, and people who are naturally needy resort to playing games to hide their neediness. That all men want is sex. -in my experience… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/01/21 12:18 AM |
| 1 | Are late bloomers basically screwed?Probably depends how “late” you bloom. If you’re talking about not losing you virginity until you’re 18-19/not dating in high school, you’ll be fine. I know plenty of people who that is the case of an now in my 30s they’ve been plenty successful in dating/marriage. If “late” is like mid-late 20s there will be a stigma about your virginity probably as people are afraid virgins will be high maintenance after sex. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/01/21 12:10 AM |
| 0 | What do you think would happen if people suddenly started to over-glorify platonic relationships?I place my close platonic friends at the same level as my husband in my life and I always have. As a result, before I was married I never felt lonely, and never really felt like I needed a romantic partner if there was no one around I liked enough to want to date. It was really healthy and I’d recommend it to everyone. Mind you, I’m not talking about “friends” in the way a lot of people in the social media age mean it where friends are just anyone whose phone number you have. That’s not feasible… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/01/21 12:06 AM |
| 1 | Kindness, and Respect are not sexually attractive to womenYes I think you are right. I think there’s a miscommunication in what’s being asked, because women when asked “how to attract women” often kind of lump all those traits together because many don’t understand that a lot of the men asking might not mean “what makes women want to date me” as much as “what makes women want to fuck me.” That said, even in terms of the second one: being respectful alone doesn’t make women want to fuck you (it just makes them like being around you), but being disrespec… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/01/21 11:00 PM |
| 3 | Q4W: What qualities make you fall in *love* with a man? And what qualities make you fall in *lust* with a man?Love: funny, respectful, good listener, empathetic, self-reliant/independent, curious/inciteful, wise, loyal, good in bed Lust: funny, confident, intelligent, creative, talented, adventurous, smells good, sexy voice, good in bed, handsome. Some things overlap. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/01/21 08:08 PM |
| 1 | If women admit that niceness alone means nothing, then why do they detest RedPill for teaching men to up their ante?Well, I’m Canadian so actually my government wasn’t run by Bush and didn’t invade Iraq. I also don’t disagree that it’s absolute bullshit the way western develop nations go around involving themselves in the business of other nations based on ideals. It’s also rarely actually about ideals, it’s usually about oil and resources and ideals are the excuse used. I don’t support that personally and think you’re right about at least that aspect. Like I told you before I don’t think my way or my country… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/01/21 07:55 PM |
| 1 | Kindness, and Respect are not sexually attractive to womenI don’t know what “women do” I know what I as a woman do. I might include them in a list, but they wouldn’t be the only things I’d list. That’s because even though they are basic human decency you’d be surprised by how many men women meet who really aren’t respectful. I’d say most are kind. So yeah, it gets included, but most don’t see it as the only thing a man needs to have to be appealing. I also think a lot of times when women make those lists they’re making a list of all the traits they wan… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/01/21 06:23 PM |
| 1 | If women admit that niceness alone means nothing, then why do they detest RedPill for teaching men to up their ante?Well, I don’t see other cultures as hedonistic just because they have a different way of living and forming relationships than I do. I think that’s because I have a sense of human empathy and understand that your values aren’t innately better or worse than mine, they just exist in a different cultural context that I don’t personally relate to. Like I said, very few people here actually die alone. Wanting partnership is a part of human nature, and most people who try even a little bit to be decen… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/01/21 06:16 PM |
| 1 | Dating in the country is so much easier for menYeah but I imagine there are a lot of them, hah. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/01/21 05:40 PM |
| 1 | If women admit that niceness alone means nothing, then why do they detest RedPill for teaching men to up their ante?Just cultural differences I guess. I grew up in Canada and now live in the US. I’m happily married to someone I chose to be with. Before I married him I had various other partners and sexual relationships, but really most people even when given the freedom to choose will ultimately end up wanting to settle down and make a home: we’re wired for it. I like that I don’t have to sleep with people unless I want to, and it makes my marriage/relationship feel special and real to me to know it’s somethi… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/01/21 05:38 PM |
| 1 | If women admit that niceness alone means nothing, then why do they detest RedPill for teaching men to up their ante?I will say that online apps set up like tinder/hinge etc... are a pretty shallow way of dating, you’re selecting a partner based on looks and demographics you see on a profile like it’s a catalog. That’s why I don’t use apps, and think people who take it personally when they experience a lot of rejection probably shouldn’t use apps either. What you see as “gynocentric” is just women’s freedom to choose not to sleep with people they don’t feel attracted to. The alternative to that is what? Every … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/01/21 04:42 PM |
| 1 | Dating in the country is so much easier for menYeah, the point is though that the high standards come from being around so many more options. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/01/21 04:21 PM |
| 4 | Kindness, and Respect are not sexually attractive to womenNo, they’re baseline characteristics that shouldn’t be impressive because they should just be there if you’re a decent person that’s even worth a minute of your time. Is it sexually attractive that I wipe my ass after I shit? No, it’s expected, but it would be very unattractive if I didn’t. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/01/21 03:25 PM |
| 2 | If women admit that niceness alone means nothing, then why do they detest RedPill for teaching men to up their ante?Women aren’t upset at men for trying to grow in various ways to become more attractive, it’s they ways in which TRP classifies and generalizes women that bother us, and the “standards” for men that TRP stresses as desirable tend to be shallow meaning a lot of men actually can’t or won’t ever reach them (being tall, for example, is a way your born). The concept that you won’t attract women if you’re not either a Hollywood gorgeous or a millionaire breeds resentment against women because most men … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/01/21 03:19 PM |
| 1 | Dating in the country is so much easier for menWell, it makes sense that people in the city have higher standards: they have more options. If you’re in New York City with a pop of like 8 million, you can afford to be a little choosey. You’re around new people every day, and there are more places to go out and find them as well (at least outside of COVID time). There’s no scarcity. If you live in the country in a town of potentially just a few thousand or less and only like 2 neighborhood bars, your pool is small, you’re more likely to sort o… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/01/21 03:02 PM |
| 2 | How is your dating & sex life? How successful have you been based on whatever you hope to achieve?I’m 32 F I got married last year to someone I’ve been with since I was 26. Before that I was very casual about dating, a little promiscuous, and never really thought about future plans. I didn’t really care if I ever got married, it happened because I found someone I really cared about and felt compatible with/attracted to, not because I ran out of options or settled. I’m happier with my husband than I ever was with the freedom/option for variety that I used to be really attached to when I was y… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/01/21 11:23 AM |
| 1 | This sub is ignoring the link between income class and promiscuity.Is it known that poor people have sex more often or just that they have more kids? Having more kids might just by a symptom of less education/less access to contraceptives. Poorer people are also more likely to be religious for whatever reason so may be more likely to refuse abortion as an option if they get pregnant unexpectedly. If it is known they have more sex my hypothesis would be: Depending on what type of poverty we’re talking about it may also result from bot spending as much time at wo… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/01/21 11:08 AM |
| 2 | With the advancement of science, will women even need to date men in order to have kids in 30-40 years?They already don’t need to. IVF and sperm donation has existed for awhile now and are pretty effective (though expensive). A lot of women just don’t want to choose to raise a kid in a single-parent household though. It’s difficult unless you have a lot of money for childcare or a lot of family support/live near your relatives. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/01/21 10:57 AM |
| 1 | Can someone be considered “loyal” if they aren’t practicing “fidelity”?Well I think the part of cheating that’s actually an issue isn’t the infidelity it’s the dishonesty. Fella cheats and comes clean immediately/ends the affair, he made a mistake but took accountability and remained loyal. If he lies about it for a period of time or until he’s found out like they almost always do, that’s trying to “have your cake and eat it too,” as they say, and it’s done out of selfishness not loyalty. I do think they can be committed to their family while cheating if they remai… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/01/21 10:02 AM |
| 8 | Women rapidly lose interest in sex once in a stable relationship or living with a male sexual partnerDoes the study take into account whether the families have kids and how old their kids are? Maybe moms are just too tired to care y’all. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/01/21 09:54 AM |
| 1 | Taller women don't struggle because they can't find a guy that likes taller chicks, but because tall women won't accept men shorter than them.Yeah, I’m not overweight, more athletic than thin but not like a body builder or anything, and I still get called “intimidating.” My taller white female friends actually don’t as often maybe that’s part of it? Who knows. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/01/21 09:47 AM |
| 1 | Q4W: When evaluating a man for candidacy as a sexual partner, do you consider the relative desirability of his previous partners (to the degree that you are able)?Yeah it doesn’t REALLY matter, it’s more like if you look at an ex and she’s REALLY different you’ll have a passing thought of “how do you relate to both me and this person who is sooooo different.” I know it’s not really something to dwell on and is actually hypocritical because most of my exes are VERY different from each other and it doesn’t affect anything for me. I think some guys have strong “types” and some girls also do, other people just don’t. I know a number of guys who date different… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/01/21 07:47 PM |
| 2 | Do you think a lot of men get very clingy and needy after dates/sex with you?Not all, but yes a lot do. When I was single there was a time when I was younger that I was pretty open to what type of men I would hook up with, but there were always consequences: by which I mean a lot of men once they have sex with you just assume that because you’re a woman you want a relationship. They’ll text all the time/try to “boyfriend” you without being asked. As a result my standards for who I would sleep with went up to include only people I would actually consider dating/longer ter… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/01/21 07:41 PM |
| 1 | Describe your ultimate ideal LTR partner. Who is this person that will truly make you happy? Other commenters, do you find these standards realistic?Yeah and feet. That’s the worst, you go to someone’s house for the first time and they take their shoes off and it’s just RANK. Sometimes I think there are a lot men that must just have no sense of smell at all. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/01/21 04:46 PM |
| 1 | [META] If you answered in the 'worst fear' thread, what can us men do to alleviate your fears?Really just listen and keep an open mind about the fact that women and men aren’t just “wired differently,” we actually experience a different version of the world in every way based on our sex. If you come from a place of really understanding that, you’re much less likely to accidentally scare someone. That and being if anything over-careful about seeking enthusiastic consent at the beginning. Ask a woman if you can kiss her/if she’s comfortable sexually if you haven’t been physical yet and you… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/01/21 04:39 PM |
| 1 | Is there anything you are consciously doing to increase your attractiveness, or are you just hoping someone will randomly find you attractive for who you naturally are?Don’t self improve with the goal of finding a partner, self improve in ways that make you feel good, and wait for a partner who likes you for who you naturally are. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/01/21 04:15 PM |
| 1 | Q4W: Would it bother you ifHaha, ok then bub. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/01/21 03:54 PM |
| 1 | Describe your ultimate ideal LTR partner. Who is this person that will truly make you happy? Other commenters, do you find these standards realistic?I know right? Someone can be so hot and amazing but if they smell like a dogs greasy asshole it’s an impassable obstacle. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/01/21 03:46 PM |
| 1 | Q4W: Would it bother you ifNot my problem you don’t understand my words and just hear what you want to/pick and choose the ones you can distort to support what you already believe. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/01/21 03:45 PM |
| 1 | Q4W: Would it bother you ifHah, okay. Thank you so much for telling me “what my words mean.” I’ve always wanted a guy to do that for me. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/01/21 02:31 PM |
| 1 | Is it possible for women/men to have strictly platonic friends of the opposite sex? Would you consider dating a girl with a lot of guy friends, and vice versa?Yes definitely possible, also a thing that is often taken advantage of by shitty people. What I mean is, I have some really great straight male friends. As you described, they’re usually guys I really like hanging out with but have too many “red flags” to date, that I don’t feel romantically compatible with, or that I’m just not attracted to even though I like them as people and have fun with them. Usually that feeling is mutual. I think most mature adults are able to keep platonic friendships l… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/01/21 01:59 PM |
| 1 | Q4W: Would it bother you ifYou definitely took things out of context that I wrote, pieced them back together to make it look like they supported your point, and twisted them to your own means/removed all nuance. Nice work, you should go into politics. I’m not going to continue to discuss with someone who resorts to those tactics. Have a nice day. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/01/21 01:47 PM |
| 2 | Describe your ultimate ideal LTR partner. Who is this person that will truly make you happy? Other commenters, do you find these standards realistic?First of all, I don’t think happiness should come from another person alone, but I’m going to assume you mean “romantically happy.” In that case: -makes me laugh/playful -respectful -good hygiene -sexually compatible -easy to talk to/thoughtful -has his shit together/acts his age (doesn’t have to be rich, but should be able to pull his weight in our life together financially so he’s not dependent on me). -good listener -independent/ok with my independence/not possessive -has a deep sexy voice -h… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/01/21 01:35 PM |
| 1 | Q4W: Would it bother you ifit also says domestic violence isn’t a gendered problem which wrecks the feminist narrative about DV Well we weren’t talking about that narrative, and I don’t identify as a “feminist” anyway, so nice straw man here. This also wrecks the claim you just made about women being more violent than men. If it’s not a gendered issue, it’s not a gendered issue. I agree domestic violence happens on both sides. I also believe that in heterosexual relationships women are at greater risk of serious physical … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/01/21 01:15 PM |
| 1 | Q4W: Would it bother you ifYou’re supposed to evaluate and question statistics in their context. That’s what critical thinking is about. It’s really easy to find a statistic to support anything you want to prove, considering what that statistic could result from is good scientific thinking. And again, rates of reported violence are higher in all homosexual relationships (male, female, and trans/gender nonconforming). Kind of proves the high rates in lesbian relationships specifically probably don’t have much to do with wo… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/01/21 04:58 AM |
| 1 | Q4W: Would it bother you ifyour claim that lesbians report more is unsubstantiated BS First of all there’s no way to substantiate who does and doesn’t report something, but you’ll see a million people on PPD talking about how rates of rape/assault for men are higher than stats would suggest because men are less likely to report than women due to men being more hesitant to admit feeling as though they were assaulted. We don’t have numbers on all the men who DONT report obviously, but we recognize there could be a bias ther… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/01/21 04:32 AM |
| 1 | Q4W: Would it bother you ifLol, ok then. here’s the stats And those are stats on physical violence, most verbal/emotional abuse doesn’t get reported. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/01/21 04:03 AM |
| 1 | Q4W: When evaluating a man for candidacy as a sexual partner, do you consider the relative desirability of his previous partners (to the degree that you are able)?It feels strange when you’re a member of a minority such that you can be pretty sure it didn’t happen just because he was only meeting black women or even meeting mostly black women. Imagine you dated a white girl who had had multiple past relationships but only with Pakistani men, wouldn’t that feel strange? Where we both lived it just seemed statistically unlikely to have been an accident, and felt a little bit objectifying like I’m not sure he’d have been attracted to me if I was white or ano… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/01/21 04:01 AM |
| 1 | Q4W: Would it bother you ifThat just proves that lesbians are likely to report assault. Also if you look at the % of women that report assault and abuse by men as having happened at some point in their lives it’s way over 30%, and that’s just what’s being reported. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/01/21 03:51 AM |
| 1 | Q4W: Would it bother you ifHah, are you serious? Men verbally abuse their girlfriends/wives at least as much as women do. If you don’t see that you’re legitimately living under a rock in a way I don’t think is even worth arguing with, lol. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/01/21 03:45 AM |
| 1 | Q4W: Would it bother you ifPlenty of men are happy to do that to women too, healthy people leave relationships like that. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/01/21 03:25 AM |
| 1 | Q4W: Would it bother you ifI wouldn’t marry the guy. I would co-parent and try to maintain a civil/solid non-romantic relationship for the sake of the child, but definitely not marry him. I also wouldn’t get in this situation to begin with. If my birth control failed on a ons I’d abort. If I couldn’t abort I’d go the adoption route, but if for some reason I couldn’t do either, that would be my answer. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/01/21 03:22 AM |
| 1 | Men are not and should not be responsible for a woman's safetyYes, I disagree with that expectation is what I’m saying. Most women just expect men to be independently self-accountable not necessarily intervene. Is it awesome if one does? Sure, same way it’s awesome when anyone of any gender intervenes when observing something happening around them that isn’t right, but it’s not an expectation. It’s going above and beyond to do so. I think we expect it to a degree if it’s a friend, like if you’re sitting at a bar with a buddy and your buddy slaps a girls as… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/01/21 03:18 AM |
| 2 | Q4W: When evaluating a man for candidacy as a sexual partner, do you consider the relative desirability of his previous partners (to the degree that you are able)?Not really. If I know who the guy has dated obviously I’ll have some thoughts about how that person is similar or different from me, or some darker thoughts about whether I think she’s as attractive, accomplished, etc... as I am, but honestly I don’t think about my partners’ exes a lot at all. If they’re exes their relationships failed so who cares? The person I’m with now dated someone very different from me in every way before we were together, and that’s confusing early on because sometimes y… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/01/21 03:14 AM |
| 2 | What is a man?Things that make a “man:” -accountability is number one. Boys blame other people/get over sensitive and angry at the world for things that don’t work out for them, men look inward and reflect. -self-sufficiency. Don’t have to be rich, but you do have to be able to support yourself and live like an adult. I think the boundaries of this are different depending on your age too, so “self-sufficient” for a 21 year old looks different than for a 31 year old. -Respectful to women. Men listen when women… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/01/21 03:05 AM |
| 2 | Theory on why shorter/younger men do worse in the sexual marketplace than tall/older womenI think there are some misconceptions here. I think a woman’s age is VERY stigmatized (as much as a mans height at least). If you’re talking about maybe 3-4 years older than sure, even though it isn’t the majority, there are plenty of men who will date a slightly older women. Age differences of more than 5 years though? I’d say it’s few men who knowingly seek that, and the physical markers of age (wrinkles, sagging bodies, etc...) are scrutinized more in women’s bodies than in men’s. That said, … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/01/21 02:51 AM |
| 0 | First comes sex, then maybe commitmentI think it’s hard to make commitment without sleeping with someone first. Sex is a huge part of a relationship, and a relationship without sexual compatibility probably won’t last...hate to say it. It’s hard to want to put effort/time/energy into a commitment with someone you know you might feel VERY differently about if you sleep together and it doesn’t feel right. I think sex before commitment makes sense. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/01/21 02:22 AM |
| 1 | Men are not and should not be responsible for a woman's safetyI don’t think women believe men shouldn’t be allowed to make loud noises at night. Arguably depending on what the noises are no one should be doing that though. I think they expect men not to leer/catcall/follow/approach them with no provocation just because they’re alone in public, and not touch them even in a “nonsexual” way without asking. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/01/21 02:19 AM |
| 1 | Men are not and should not be responsible for a woman's safetyIf I were to walk into a restaurant with a gun in my hand, that would probably make a lot of people in the restaurant feel unsafe. Even if I had no intention of using the gun and knew I could safely handle it, if it were out and in my hand and I were waving it around people would be scared and rightfully so: they don’t know me or my intention/training. It’s therefore socially unacceptable to walk around public ally brandishing a firearm. In a lot of states/countries it’s even illegal to do so. A… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/01/21 02:17 AM |
| 1 | How does "smell dating" data line-up with the 80/20 rule?This is so real. The first thing I noticed about the guy I ended up marrying on our first date is that he smells better than anyone I’ve ever met. Tone of a person’s voice factors in a lot too. My guess is that people who believe 80/20 consider the 20% attractive in all physical senses including smell/voice. I personally think 80/20 is BS but I imagine if it were true smell would factor in to physical attractiveness since it’s a physical trait, even if it’s not visual. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/01/21 02:09 AM |
| 2 | What are your biggest hypocrisies in modern dating?Many men say they want a women that lets them be independent/gives them space, but also get super hard for women who are likely to become dependent on them either financially (socioeconomic status) or emotionally (mental health issues). Many women say they want equality in relationship power dynamics but refuse to take initiative in relationship actions: asking someone out, initiating sex, beginning the “exclusivity” conversation etc... and still expect a man to take the more dominant role in th… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/01/21 02:03 AM |
| 1 | Taking biological sexual attraction to its natural end, will a certain percentage of men always be inherently undesirable?I think what is rarely taken into consideration is that that “extreme lower end” of attractiveness exists in women as well as men. For both men and women, being extremely undesirable makes it harder to find a partner. In the case of both, you can either give up and embrace solitude, or you can try (as you mentioned). Be social, find ways to stand out, work on your confidence. Extremely undesirable people who choose the second option may still end up alone, but more likely they’ll find someone. I… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/01/21 01:52 AM |
| 1 | If it were suddenly possible to change your sexuality, do you think most people would still remain heterosexual?What do you mean by “change it by choice?” Do you mean change the way you feel/become attracted to multiple genders, or do you mean you’d be automatically accepted by friends/family/society in any sexuality you chose to become? If just the first I’d stay the way I am, if both first and second I’d probably opt to be attracted to as many different types of people as possible. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/01/21 01:39 AM |
| 1 | Question about divorce ratesI agree with you mostly. I think it’s a couple of different things: As you said, it’s now more socially acceptable than ever for women to initiate divorce proceedings. More women are educated/financially self sufficient than in past generations, so they don’t need to stay in relationships to be financially supported if said relationships are bad. Divorce in general is more socially acceptable than it used to be for both sexes. I’ve actually seen a few stats about millennial marriages that sugges… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/01/21 01:07 AM |
| 5 | When people blame single men for their lack of “ going outside “, what counts as going outside ?When people talk about men “not going outside” that’s hyperbole. Obviously they literally go outside, most have jobs/do normal life things out of the house. What we mean is they’re not social, they don’t have big social circles or friends they regularly spend time with in person out of the house. That makes it difficult for them to meet women in ways that aren’t online apps, and only apps are a really specific culture that tends to validate the philosophies people talk about around this sub. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/01/21 01:00 AM |
| 1 | The reason PPD men don’t believe women who say they’re attracted to “personality” isn’t because we’re wired differently, it’s because they actually misunderstand which personality traits said women are referring to.Yes it’s played a part in certain specific brain functions that have to do with courtship becoming pronounced, but we’re talking about brain size/complexity. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/01/21 01:34 AM |
| 1 | The reason PPD men don’t believe women who say they’re attracted to “personality” isn’t because we’re wired differently, it’s because they actually misunderstand which personality traits said women are referring to.There’s no taboo around talking about sexual selection in humans. The fact that humans have relatively large dicks for their body size is sexual selection, for example, no one denies it. Blue eyes are sexually selected for as well (blue eyes are more light sensitive, which is bad for survival, but continue to be passed on because mates find them attractive). Same with red hair (the mc1r mutation that makes hair fiery red is linked with with all types of detriments to survival: higher likelihood … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/01/21 12:49 AM |
| 2 | The reason PPD men don’t believe women who say they’re attracted to “personality” isn’t because we’re wired differently, it’s because they actually misunderstand which personality traits said women are referring to.My point was just that some types of personality traits are as big a draw to women as physical traits, and trying to clarify why some PPD men seem not to understand that/believe it when women say so. Of course what you’re attracted to changes both within your own lifetime and cultural times, that’s a separate topic, but is true. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/01/21 11:43 PM |
| 2 | The reason PPD men don’t believe women who say they’re attracted to “personality” isn’t because we’re wired differently, it’s because they actually misunderstand which personality traits said women are referring to.Yeah definitely, I don’t understand how this is counter to my initial point at all. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/01/21 11:29 PM |
| 1 | The reason PPD men don’t believe women who say they’re attracted to “personality” isn’t because we’re wired differently, it’s because they actually misunderstand which personality traits said women are referring to.First of all, chimps do have relatively big brains. Not as big as ours, but big compared to a lot of animals. Second of all, because that’s not how evolution works. Wings/flight are pretty great, yet a lot of species haven’t evolved those traits. Traits aren’t “good” or “bad” objectively, they either do or don’t make the I individuals that have them more “fit” (reproduce most successfully). The reason not all animals have large brains is because either: A. The genetic mutations that lead to larg… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/01/21 11:13 PM |
| 1 | The reason PPD men don’t believe women who say they’re attracted to “personality” isn’t because we’re wired differently, it’s because they actually misunderstand which personality traits said women are referring to.Ability to make puns, and philosophize are byproducts of other neurological survival functions that DO serve functions. They’re also selected for because as a species our survival depends on maintaining social groups. Humans die without their social groups. Anything that makes other people like you and want to “tribe” with you (not necessarily sexually) ensures your safe place in a group. Creativity, humor, empathy, kindness/altruism etc... all serve this purpose. They also are sexually attracti… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/01/21 10:22 PM |
| 2 | Many men here seem to underestimate or downplay the role “charisma” and “presence” plays in female sexual arousal.The point is “shy” isn’t the same as “boring” shy people can be appealing in all sorts of ways. Boring people are rarely appealing. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/01/21 10:06 PM |
| 1 | The reason PPD men don’t believe women who say they’re attracted to “personality” isn’t because we’re wired differently, it’s because they actually misunderstand which personality traits said women are referring to.Of course I would. I didn’t say they weren’t attractive for friendship, it’s that they’re ALSO sexually appealing. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/01/21 10:01 PM |
| 2 | The reason PPD men don’t believe women who say they’re attracted to “personality” isn’t because we’re wired differently, it’s because they actually misunderstand which personality traits said women are referring to.Sure it can, people interact with plenty of humans they don’t initially think of as attractive: at work, in social groups, at the grocery store, wherever. I think one big mistake people make on this sub is not accounting for how many hookups/relationships happen when people aren’t expressly seeking them. Sure, if a woman walks into a bar (or goes on an app) with the specific purpose of picking a person to hook up with that night she might not talk to one that doesn’t visually appeal, but if she … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/01/21 09:44 PM |
| 1 | The reason PPD men don’t believe women who say they’re attracted to “personality” isn’t because we’re wired differently, it’s because they actually misunderstand which personality traits said women are referring to.Yes absolutely. Category 2 draws women in the same way being physically attractive does, but to be worth dating long term you need 1 also. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/01/21 09:38 PM |
| 1 | The reason PPD men don’t believe women who say they’re attracted to “personality” isn’t because we’re wired differently, it’s because they actually misunderstand which personality traits said women are referring to.I think that’s cat 1, cat 2 is absolutely arousing. Again, I guess I just disagree with you. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/01/21 08:38 PM |
| 1 | If you want someone to settle with and be secure with, why not look for that person as early as possible?Because you need to make sure you know what you want/value/feels good to you in a partner before you make that sort of long term commitment. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/01/21 07:59 PM |
| 1 | Women, what is your worst fear in a relationship?My worst fear in a relationship is co-dependency or developing a dependency on someone such that if any of the things happen you listed I wouldn’t have an easy time leaving. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/01/21 07:55 PM |
| 1 | Q4Women: Has a man ever reacted aggressively when you rejected him?Absolutely it happens. Either with passive aggression, defensiveness, or outright anger. It’s why many women have some fear about turning men down directly and so resort to options like giving a number just to ghost, or “slow fading” out. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/01/21 07:53 PM |
| 1 | The reason PPD men don’t believe women who say they’re attracted to “personality” isn’t because we’re wired differently, it’s because they actually misunderstand which personality traits said women are referring to.I absolutely read and considered, I just disagree based on what I’ve seen and experienced in the world. What you wrote seemed pretty clear. You thought the points I made were wrong and gave your own opinion. I still believe my initial opinion even after reading yours. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/01/21 07:50 PM |
| 1 | The reason PPD men don’t believe women who say they’re attracted to “personality” isn’t because we’re wired differently, it’s because they actually misunderstand which personality traits said women are referring to.Well if you’re cat 1 only and also physically hot yeah sure, like all things, it’s a total package deal. I know plenty of men who are not that good looking but have cat 1 and 2 and do well, or just strong 2 even. It’s apples an oranges. My point is cat 2 traits factor in just as much as appearance does if not sometimes more. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/01/21 07:33 PM |
| 1 | The reason PPD men don’t believe women who say they’re attracted to “personality” isn’t because we’re wired differently, it’s because they actually misunderstand which personality traits said women are referring to.Of course they do, when I say “looks” I mean whatever the particular woman is into physically. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/01/21 07:32 PM |
| 1 | The reason PPD men don’t believe women who say they’re attracted to “personality” isn’t because we’re wired differently, it’s because they actually misunderstand which personality traits said women are referring to.For a LTR yes you want both. But cat 2 only is just as attractive for casual hook ups as good looks are. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/01/21 07:31 PM |
| 3 | The reason PPD men don’t believe women who say they’re attracted to “personality” isn’t because we’re wired differently, it’s because they actually misunderstand which personality traits said women are referring to.Yes, but my point is the traits will win out over looks or income easily. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/01/21 07:30 PM |
| 1 | The reason PPD men don’t believe women who say they’re attracted to “personality” isn’t because we’re wired differently, it’s because they actually misunderstand which personality traits said women are referring to.Personality is a huge part of how you make them feel. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/01/21 07:29 PM |
| 1 | The reason PPD men don’t believe women who say they’re attracted to “personality” isn’t because we’re wired differently, it’s because they actually misunderstand which personality traits said women are referring to.And category 2 personality traits just as much as either. I’d say more than income at least for most women, maybe equally to height but cat 2 traits and short does better than tall with no cat 2 traits. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/01/21 07:28 PM |
| 1 | The reason PPD men don’t believe women who say they’re attracted to “personality” isn’t because we’re wired differently, it’s because they actually misunderstand which personality traits said women are referring to.They’re separate entities. Cat 1 leads to compatibility, but not necessarily attraction, cat 2 leads to attraction but not always compatibility. You need both for a solid healthy relationship. You only need cat 2 for good sex. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/01/21 07:27 PM |
| 1 | The reason PPD men don’t believe women who say they’re attracted to “personality” isn’t because we’re wired differently, it’s because they actually misunderstand which personality traits said women are referring to.Literally not the definition of gaslighting first of all. Second of all. “All” women aren’t turned on by any one thing, we’re talking “most” | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/01/21 07:25 PM |
| 1 | The reason PPD men don’t believe women who say they’re attracted to “personality” isn’t because we’re wired differently, it’s because they actually misunderstand which personality traits said women are referring to.Dating site culture is different. People “swipe right” sometimes even without reading just because it’s set up for quick “yes or no” response so yeah looks factor in more since it’s hard to see personality on an app. Doesn’t mean they’ll sleep with the guy or even meet him. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/01/21 07:25 PM |
| 1 | The reason PPD men don’t believe women who say they’re attracted to “personality” isn’t because we’re wired differently, it’s because they actually misunderstand which personality traits said women are referring to.Category 1 traits take longer to see and notice, category 2 is often apparent in the first exchange. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/01/21 07:23 PM |
| 1 | The reason PPD men don’t believe women who say they’re attracted to “personality” isn’t because we’re wired differently, it’s because they actually misunderstand which personality traits said women are referring to.Maybe you are, who knows | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/01/21 07:22 PM |
| 2 | The reason PPD men don’t believe women who say they’re attracted to “personality” isn’t because we’re wired differently, it’s because they actually misunderstand which personality traits said women are referring to.Absolutely, if you’re short but funny, interesting, talented, etc... you’ll do just fine. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/01/21 07:21 PM |
| 1 | The reason PPD men don’t believe women who say they’re attracted to “personality” isn’t because we’re wired differently, it’s because they actually misunderstand which personality traits said women are referring to.Just sharing personal experience. Glad to know you apparently know how I feel better than I do. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/01/21 07:20 PM |
| 1 | The reason PPD men don’t believe women who say they’re attracted to “personality” isn’t because we’re wired differently, it’s because they actually misunderstand which personality traits said women are referring to.Something being attractive doesn’t make it sexual selection. “Sexual selection” refers to traits that actually are counterintuitive to survival (peacock tails make them more visible to predators and impede movement, for example) but are passed down SOLELY because they attract mates. Bigger/more complex and functional brains ensure our survival (make us capable of being more social to stay safe, problem solving, complex hunting strategies, etc...) therefore are a product of NATURAL selection not … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/01/21 07:19 PM |
| 1 | The reason PPD men don’t believe women who say they’re attracted to “personality” isn’t because we’re wired differently, it’s because they actually misunderstand which personality traits said women are referring to.Deeply? Not much, but category 2 traits are apparent often within 1 conversation. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/01/21 07:15 PM |
| 1 | The reason PPD men don’t believe women who say they’re attracted to “personality” isn’t because we’re wired differently, it’s because they actually misunderstand which personality traits said women are referring to.Kay. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/01/21 07:14 PM |
| 1 | The reason PPD men don’t believe women who say they’re attracted to “personality” isn’t because we’re wired differently, it’s because they actually misunderstand which personality traits said women are referring to.True | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/01/21 07:14 PM |
| 1 | The reason PPD men don’t believe women who say they’re attracted to “personality” isn’t because we’re wired differently, it’s because they actually misunderstand which personality traits said women are referring to.So yes you just confirmed my point entirely and I agree completely. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/01/21 07:13 PM |
| 1 | The reason PPD men don’t believe women who say they’re attracted to “personality” isn’t because we’re wired differently, it’s because they actually misunderstand which personality traits said women are referring to.Totally 100% agree. I was just talking about women because men on PPD like to deny that women are swayed by anything more than a guys looks and financial status to any great degree | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/01/21 07:12 PM |
| 1 | The reason PPD men don’t believe women who say they’re attracted to “personality” isn’t because we’re wired differently, it’s because they actually misunderstand which personality traits said women are referring to.Just often true. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/01/21 07:12 PM |
| 1 | The reason PPD men don’t believe women who say they’re attracted to “personality” isn’t because we’re wired differently, it’s because they actually misunderstand which personality traits said women are referring to.Which is why I did not do that. Specifically used words “most” and “many” for this reason. I can tell by the way you rephrased what I wrote that you don’t understand where I’m coming from and what I’m saying to some degree. Again, that’s all right. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/01/21 07:11 PM |
| 1 | The reason PPD men don’t believe women who say they’re attracted to “personality” isn’t because we’re wired differently, it’s because they actually misunderstand which personality traits said women are referring to.I actually think men care about personality too, though I think they’re more likely to fuck someone with a boring but not abrasive personality just because she’s hot than women are. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/01/21 07:10 PM |
| 1 | The reason PPD men don’t believe women who say they’re attracted to “personality” isn’t because we’re wired differently, it’s because they actually misunderstand which personality traits said women are referring to.A type one football player also has some type 2 traits if he’s good at football. Is someone is a good illustrator and passionate about his art, yes women will find that attractive, even if it’s anime. Just liking/being a fan of anime though isn’t the same as having a passion for something you DO. That’s just something you like, not something you do/are talented and skilled in. It’s no different that loving a specific TV show. You don’t have a “passion” for The Office, you just like the office a … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/01/21 07:08 PM |
| 1 | The reason PPD men don’t believe women who say they’re attracted to “personality” isn’t because we’re wired differently, it’s because they actually misunderstand which personality traits said women are referring to.I think/have experienced/have observed it being the opposite: actually people’s personalities can make them look more or less physically attractive (make you focus on their most attractive or least attractive physical qualities). | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/01/21 07:02 PM |
| 2 | The reason PPD men don’t believe women who say they’re attracted to “personality” isn’t because we’re wired differently, it’s because they actually misunderstand which personality traits said women are referring to.Well what you might also see is women being polite. Who knows if the men/women in the situation you’re referring to actually slept together. Women are socialized to politely “act interested” when on dates even if they have no intention of seeing the guy again and are bored to tears. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/01/21 07:01 PM |
| 1 | The reason PPD men don’t believe women who say they’re attracted to “personality” isn’t because we’re wired differently, it’s because they actually misunderstand which personality traits said women are referring to.Yes, whether you want to call it “behavior” or “personality” is semantics. Same thing. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/01/21 06:59 PM |
| 1 | The reason PPD men don’t believe women who say they’re attracted to “personality” isn’t because we’re wired differently, it’s because they actually misunderstand which personality traits said women are referring to.I agree! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/01/21 06:58 PM |
| 1 | The reason PPD men don’t believe women who say they’re attracted to “personality” isn’t because we’re wired differently, it’s because they actually misunderstand which personality traits said women are referring to.The “sads?” | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/01/21 04:21 PM |
| 5 | The reason PPD men don’t believe women who say they’re attracted to “personality” isn’t because we’re wired differently, it’s because they actually misunderstand which personality traits said women are referring to.What does that have to do with what I just said? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/01/21 08:40 AM |
| 5 | The reason PPD men don’t believe women who say they’re attracted to “personality” isn’t because we’re wired differently, it’s because they actually misunderstand which personality traits said women are referring to.It’s not about faith, it’s about what I have experienced and seen/heard from others. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/01/21 08:39 AM |
| 5 | The reason PPD men don’t believe women who say they’re attracted to “personality” isn’t because we’re wired differently, it’s because they actually misunderstand which personality traits said women are referring to.None of that corresponds to what I said at all... | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/01/21 08:32 AM |
| 3 | The reason PPD men don’t believe women who say they’re attracted to “personality” isn’t because we’re wired differently, it’s because they actually misunderstand which personality traits said women are referring to.If we eliminate the beautiful men who ALSO have those traits, so we’re comparing men who are beautiful and boring with men who have one or more of those traits to a particularly strong degree: I think there are probably more beautiful boring men who are single, unless they got married very young to high school sweethearts or something). | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/01/21 07:26 AM |
| 23 | The reason PPD men don’t believe women who say they’re attracted to “personality” isn’t because we’re wired differently, it’s because they actually misunderstand which personality traits said women are referring to.Women don’t do that. Those aren’t categories of men, those are categories of personality traits sorted “admirable and values” vs “sexually arousing.” The most desirable men probably have some traits from both categories, and few would have all of the traits from either. My point is that women saying someone’s personality is “hot” isn’t the same as her saying his personality is “good” and it could be “hot and good” but they’re not synonyms. Men here read them as such and get confused as to why wo… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/01/21 07:21 AM |
| 4 | The reason PPD men don’t believe women who say they’re attracted to “personality” isn’t because we’re wired differently, it’s because they actually misunderstand which personality traits said women are referring to.Yes absolutely. I’m talking more about what draws you to someone before you even know them well enough to see them do said “off putting” things or get a sense of those values. There’s this concept around PPD that that initial draw that makes you want to get to know someone better is just either looks, money, or social status, and so If you don’t have those things who you are doesn’t matter since women won’t talk to you anyway. My point is that that’s really not true, and that sure those things m… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/01/21 07:13 AM |
| 3 | The reason PPD men don’t believe women who say they’re attracted to “personality” isn’t because we’re wired differently, it’s because they actually misunderstand which personality traits said women are referring to.Not at all, interesting=hot Hot can also be hot if both hot and interesting. Hot and boring is just “hot but boring” | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/01/21 07:04 AM |
| 2 | The reason PPD men don’t believe women who say they’re attracted to “personality” isn’t because we’re wired differently, it’s because they actually misunderstand which personality traits said women are referring to.Yeah no shit. I think you’re misinterpreting what my point was but I also understand that you’re on a sub where almost everyone is saying the thing you think I’m saying so I understand why. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/01/21 07:03 AM |
| 5 | The reason PPD men don’t believe women who say they’re attracted to “personality” isn’t because we’re wired differently, it’s because they actually misunderstand which personality traits said women are referring to.Well depending on your age, if youre a career musician and haven’t “made it” and don’t have another job some women might be turned off by it especially on dating apps where men love to find more creative ways to say they’re “unemployed” and even if that isn’t your case, you might be dealing with the fall out from all the other men who do that. What I’m saying is that musical skill is a trait women are very attracted too. You saying you’re a musician doesn’t have the same affect, because they’re … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/01/21 07:00 AM |
| 2 | Many men here seem to underestimate or downplay the role “charisma” and “presence” plays in female sexual arousal.Yeah I ignored the nerd example because it was a really vague hypothetical, and also because nerds get laid all the time, mostly by other nerds. I doubt it means sexual attractiveness with that The point is that quality is sexually attractive. There’s no part of the definition of the word “tall” that talks about sexual attraction either, that doesn’t mean people don’t find height sexually attractive. No, I’m not saying women find charisma sexually attractive. Your problem was everyone using the … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/01/21 06:53 AM |
| 3 | The reason PPD men don’t believe women who say they’re attracted to “personality” isn’t because we’re wired differently, it’s because they actually misunderstand which personality traits said women are referring to.The point I’m making isn’t that beautiful people don’t get dates, it’s that there are traits that are equally if not more alluring to women than beauty. Also I’ve met plenty of good looking guys who can’t get a girlfriend even when they want one. Usually because they’re boring or don’t talk to women like regular human beings. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/01/21 06:48 AM |
| 3 | Many men here seem to underestimate or downplay the role “charisma” and “presence” plays in female sexual arousal.So you’re somewhere between 18 and 21? Yeah you haven’t figured out how women work at all yet. Bless your heart. You probably just haven’t spent time with many yet. I’m 32, “chads” still hit on me frequently (or did before the pandemic when I used to be able to socialize publicly). Most of them are boring now, just like they were boring when I was 19 and boring when I was 26. But yeah, I’m sure someone your age thinks 30 is old/unattractive. It would be gross if you didn’t. I can’t imagine being… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/01/21 06:40 AM |
| 3 | The reason PPD men don’t believe women who say they’re attracted to “personality” isn’t because we’re wired differently, it’s because they actually misunderstand which personality traits said women are referring to.Are you kidding me? Personality is an enormous part of success. In politics, in the professional world, in the arts/creative world. It’s all how you sell yourself and keep people interested. And yes looks matter too, but there are a ton of physically beautiful people in the world who live mediocre lives. How many politicians do you think are physically THAT attractive? How many comedians? Oprah is one of the richest and most famous women in the world for sure. Is she ugly? Definitely not, but sh… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/01/21 06:30 AM |
| 8 | The reason PPD men don’t believe women who say they’re attracted to “personality” isn’t because we’re wired differently, it’s because they actually misunderstand which personality traits said women are referring to.Women don’t mean “boring” when they say nice, but if they call you a “nice guy” that implies boring because there’s no other defining characteristic that stands out to them, and women like to be complimentary. If you were nice but also adventurous, you’d be called an “adventurous guy” not a “nice guy.” That’s because being “nice” is something women like and value but it’s not in itself sexy. Nice means nice, it’s just used as a “fallback” compliment when there’s nothing else to say. As for the a… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/01/21 06:20 AM |
| 5 | The reason PPD men don’t believe women who say they’re attracted to “personality” isn’t because we’re wired differently, it’s because they actually misunderstand which personality traits said women are referring to.What I’m saying is that as a woman, I disagree. I am sexually drawn to people who have category 2 traits because of those personality traits. A lot of other women are also. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/01/21 06:13 AM |
| 1 | The reason PPD men don’t believe women who say they’re attracted to “personality” isn’t because we’re wired differently, it’s because they actually misunderstand which personality traits said women are referring to.You mean the dudes that only ever text you “how are you?” Instead of something that could remotely start a conversation? Yeah, it’s very nice of you to ask but it’s also a boring thing to say and a boring thing to reply to. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/01/21 06:11 AM |
| 4 | The reason PPD men don’t believe women who say they’re attracted to “personality” isn’t because we’re wired differently, it’s because they actually misunderstand which personality traits said women are referring to.Do you ever think that’s because this sub is flooded with posts by men saying the opposite, that only looks/money/power matter and women don’t care about anything else? Maybe said women are just trying to show otherwise. Altruism would fall under category 1 in this model though and so is actually not what I’m arguing is attractive. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/01/21 06:09 AM |
| 6 | The reason PPD men don’t believe women who say they’re attracted to “personality” isn’t because we’re wired differently, it’s because they actually misunderstand which personality traits said women are referring to.Maybe, but not nearly as often as people ascribe physical virtues to people who they find personality-attractive. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/01/21 06:06 AM |
| 1 | The reason PPD men don’t believe women who say they’re attracted to “personality” isn’t because we’re wired differently, it’s because they actually misunderstand which personality traits said women are referring to.It is. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/01/21 06:05 AM |
| 1 | The reason PPD men don’t believe women who say they’re attracted to “personality” isn’t because we’re wired differently, it’s because they actually misunderstand which personality traits said women are referring to.Oh yeah, constantly. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/01/21 06:04 AM |
| 2 | The reason PPD men don’t believe women who say they’re attracted to “personality” isn’t because we’re wired differently, it’s because they actually misunderstand which personality traits said women are referring to.Brains didn’t grow larger because of sexual selection, brains grew larger because of natural selection. Hah. Also in what way was I at all disputing that what goes on “upstairs” is every bit as important? If anything I think I was directly supporting that | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/01/21 06:03 AM |
| 2 | The reason PPD men don’t believe women who say they’re attracted to “personality” isn’t because we’re wired differently, it’s because they actually misunderstand which personality traits said women are referring to.What I’m saying is it doesn’t work. When you talk to talk to them and they’re boring they become unattractive. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/01/21 01:36 AM |
| 3 | The reason PPD men don’t believe women who say they’re attracted to “personality” isn’t because we’re wired differently, it’s because they actually misunderstand which personality traits said women are referring to.Looks don’t give you personality hun. There are some really boring physically beautiful people in the world. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/01/21 01:33 AM |
| 1 | The reason PPD men don’t believe women who say they’re attracted to “personality” isn’t because we’re wired differently, it’s because they actually misunderstand which personality traits said women are referring to.It’s a million situations, and I’m saying you don’t have to be a famous musician to be attractive to women. It’s attractive to women if you’re good at the guitar even if you just play alone in your house to no one. As for your second point; I agreed with you. If you’re ugly enough to be an extreme it might not get you much of anywhere and nothing will. But I think you can be VERY plain and even below average appearance and personality wins out. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/01/21 01:30 AM |
| 2 | The reason PPD men don’t believe women who say they’re attracted to “personality” isn’t because we’re wired differently, it’s because they actually misunderstand which personality traits said women are referring to.Exactly | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/01/21 01:29 AM |
| 3 | The reason PPD men don’t believe women who say they’re attracted to “personality” isn’t because we’re wired differently, it’s because they actually misunderstand which personality traits said women are referring to.Personality can get you status, because those traits are also platonically attractive to friends/straight members of the same sex. So personality and status are often present in the same individuals but aren’t the same. Some of those traits also don’t necessarily get you status, you can be interesting, eccentric, adventurous, or mysterious and not have much status. Independent too. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/01/21 01:27 AM |
| 2 | Many men here seem to underestimate or downplay the role “charisma” and “presence” plays in female sexual arousal.I brought up another example that was conveniently ignored. Which? Clinton was better looking I don’t know at some point gross old white guys are just gross old white guys. Neither would be physically attractive in a photo if they weren’t recognized but I guess it’s subjective. a definition that has nothing to do with what women find attractive. The Webster’s definition is “compelling attractiveness and charm that can inspire devotion from others.” How does that have nothing to do with what wome… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/01/21 01:24 AM |
| 1 | The reason PPD men don’t believe women who say they’re attracted to “personality” isn’t because we’re wired differently, it’s because they actually misunderstand which personality traits said women are referring to.That’s probably true, but I wasn’t trying to explain what people feel or what’s in any individuals head. That’s obviously individual and can’t be generalized. I’m trying to explain a semantic difference I see causing a huge miscommunication all over the place. I also said “most women” as in not all. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/01/21 01:17 AM |
| 5 | The reason PPD men don’t believe women who say they’re attracted to “personality” isn’t because we’re wired differently, it’s because they actually misunderstand which personality traits said women are referring to.It definitely can let an average dude beat an attractive dude out. Look at how musicians, even ones that aren’t rich and famous or anything special to look at all get laid as long as they’re good at music. Maybe not a really really ugly dude, but it will give him a better chance than another really ugly dude that doesn’t have them. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/01/21 01:11 AM |
| 1 | The reason PPD men don’t believe women who say they’re attracted to “personality” isn’t because we’re wired differently, it’s because they actually misunderstand which personality traits said women are referring to.Yep, exactly. Interesting is hot. Interesting people get sex, I’ve had sex with plenty of guys who were by no means adonises because they were interesting. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/01/21 01:08 AM |
| 2 | Many men here seem to underestimate or downplay the role “charisma” and “presence” plays in female sexual arousal.How old are you? Are you in high school? It is a little different in high school. Younger girls care a lot more about looks. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/01/21 01:07 AM |
| 4 | Many men here seem to underestimate or downplay the role “charisma” and “presence” plays in female sexual arousal.I don’t know them, which I very clearly stated. You used personal examples, I analyzed them based on the information you gave. How could I respond to your post without talking about your friends, they’re the only evidence for your side you gave. If you want I can list some examples from my life of women choosing guys who weren’t the physically best looking option, I have many of them, but that’s all just anecdotal so I chose not to. And yeah, like I said, nothing in your description told me your… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/01/21 11:40 PM |
| 4 | The manosphere totally misinterprets female attraction.I’d bet money on that girl sleeping with that dude and not long term dating him. Still means he was “successful” in terms of getting laid. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/01/21 11:25 PM |
| 2 | Many men here seem to underestimate or downplay the role “charisma” and “presence” plays in female sexual arousal.Because it’s both charisma AND wealth/power. My point is it’s hard to separate them out in the specific example of politics, which is one you brought up. More charismatic politicians do get more female attention than less charismatic ones though. Women don’t talk about Trump being a babe very often. He’s wealthy and powerful and of course therefore can get sex and a hot wife, but he’s not viewed as “sexy.” Bill Clinton was no more physically attractive than Trump (he’s a gross old white guy too)… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/01/21 11:21 PM |
| 1 | Many men here seem to underestimate or downplay the role “charisma” and “presence” plays in female sexual arousal.You told a story about him specifically opening up to that girl. People rarely do that with just one person. How do you know he didn’t with girls in the past? The point OP and I made though isn’t that women are always attracted to the things that are best for them, or the “best” personality traits, just that they’re attracted to charisma and presence (confidence) over looks. Someone can be a jerk and be charismatic. Someone can be a great guy and be charismatic. Not knowing either of these men I… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/01/21 11:09 PM |
| 2 | Many men here seem to underestimate or downplay the role “charisma” and “presence” plays in female sexual arousal.I put it together from reading a lot of posts from men here, and asking questions. Clarify if you’d like to. I’m listening. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/01/21 10:58 PM |
| 5 | Many men here seem to underestimate or downplay the role “charisma” and “presence” plays in female sexual arousal.Sounds like he was being emotionally open and honest with the girl he was talking to (having a conversation about his history with his mother is showing vulnerability). That’s an appealing trait. Sounds like the other guy has some traits women like too Just because women are attracted to “personality” doesn’t mean they’re all attracted to exactly the same personality. You sort of just proved my point. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/01/21 10:55 PM |
| 8 | Many men here seem to underestimate or downplay the role “charisma” and “presence” plays in female sexual arousal.Politicians that are charismatic, and most of them are, have way more luck with women than they should given their appearances. Remember how many girls thought Clinton was a babe? It’s hard to measure with politicians though because men with power have an easy time getting women no matter what. How is game quantifiable but charisma is not? They’re pretty much synonyms. No, attraction isn’t magic, but it’s also not a math problem. It’s brain chemistry, and most of the stimuli that trigger the spe… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/01/21 10:49 PM |
| 2 | Many men here seem to underestimate or downplay the role “charisma” and “presence” plays in female sexual arousal.You’re not wrong. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/01/21 10:36 PM |
| 1 | The manosphere totally misinterprets female attraction.maybe she sleeps with him maybe not I’m saying really often she won’t sleep with him if his personality is unattractive or boring. there are a million reasons why someone may get ghosted Of course there are, what I’m saying is most of them have to do with being either unattracted to personality, or less attracted than she is to someone else’s personality (unless she went to be a nun, you got me there). She gets distracted by someone else, that means he was forgettable (if she felt stimulated by … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/01/21 10:32 PM |
| 6 | Many men here seem to underestimate or downplay the role “charisma” and “presence” plays in female sexual arousal.It’s not just the “20%.” You literally call how attractive someone is their “market value” and it’s a result of some mathematical adding and subtracting of pros and cons in a set list of areas (height, body type, hair, age, income, facial structure, sexual prowess etc...) That’s trying to quantify something. Regardless, if you’re NOT trying to quantify anything, what’s wrong with charisma being “non-quantifiable?” | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/01/21 10:16 PM |
| 5 | Many men here seem to underestimate or downplay the role “charisma” and “presence” plays in female sexual arousal.Depends what you mean by “ugly” if he is an actual troll? No. If he’s plain and average (maybe even below average)but charismatic? I do think he will get more sex than a super hot but dull guy. I also don’t think shy is the opposite of charismatic. Shy is the opposite of extroverted, but shy people can have charisma. Opposite of charismatic is boring/dull. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/01/21 10:02 PM |
| 2 | Many men here seem to underestimate or downplay the role “charisma” and “presence” plays in female sexual arousal.What she’s saying is that charisma MAKES someone attractive. Thus, a charismatic person is one she will see as attractive whether or not he fits your standards of physical beauty. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/01/21 09:59 PM |
| 2 | Many men here seem to underestimate or downplay the role “charisma” and “presence” plays in female sexual arousal.Entertaining clowns sometimes get a lot of tail. Average looking but funny people get a lot of sex. Average looking funny people can also get famous which is true of almost no other average looking people who aren’t rich to begin with or related to someone. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/01/21 09:58 PM |
| 17 | Many men here seem to underestimate or downplay the role “charisma” and “presence” plays in female sexual arousal.I think “game” is exactly what she was talking about. That’s what charisma is. It seems like the way you were defining “charisma” is just “friendliness” (being able and willing to talk and make friends). That’s different, charisma is “charm”(game) not “friendliness.” Bazillions of guys are friendly, not necessarily charismatic. charisma is non-quantifiable Does that mean it can’t be a factor in attraction? Just because you can’t break it down neatly into a simple list of traits to apply it to yo… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/01/21 09:54 PM |
| 0 | The manosphere totally misinterprets female attraction.Yeah definitely. TRP guys confuse finding a man beautiful with finding him attractive, and so think all women just want a really specific type of man with a really specific set of physical traits (tall, angular jaw, thick hair, athletic etc...) and that any woman who dates someone that doesn’t fit that mold “settled” either for financial support or because their biological clocks are running out and they want to have kids. They don’t understand that most women aren’t really attracted to isolated… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/01/21 09:46 PM |
| 1 | The manosphere totally misinterprets female attraction.Yes, which is why you can’t really judge who is most successful in dating from who gets the most “right swipes” on an app. Most guys a woman swipes right on won’t get past date 1 with her, because even if the looks are there (thus right swipe), the personality isn’t and so she loses attraction. Sometimes it happens before they even go out, guys complain all the time about being swiped on and then “ghosted” (the woman stops responding to his messages and he never gets to meet her). That happens w… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/01/21 09:20 PM |
| 2 | Given how much the average woman cares about male height whether they realize or admit it or not and given how men have 0 control over their height. Women have 0 right to complain about just about any standard any man hasI actually don’t have a lot of strong physical preferences at all. People I’ve dated/been attracted to have all looked pretty different. My husband is tall/generally big frame but I guess a little chubby actually? Not obese but definitely a little “squishy”. He’s a mechanic so is physically strong but not really athletic. The guy I dated before him was more willowy, but I’ve been attracted to all different physical types. It’s much more driven by sense of humor and confidence than physical body.… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/01/21 08:58 PM |
| 2 | Are younger people objectively the most attractive?The age old question lives on. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/01/21 08:44 PM |
| 2 | Do men have any relationship value outside of sperm and money and would you ever let yourself become a forever girlfriend?I don’t think I want kids, and am financially self sufficient so I don’t need someone to provide for me that way. I was sexually successful when I was single and often had multiple partners. Still ultimately chose monogamy because I found someone I cared about more than randos, and I’d actually rather have sex with just him than whatever other people there are in the world. Sex is better and gets more creative when people know and trust each other/don’t have to figure out how to please one anoth… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/01/21 08:41 PM |
| 3 | Are younger people objectively the most attractive?Arguably though there might be moments when individual water molecules are “wetted” by other water molecules since not every water molecule forms H bonds to every other one 100% of the time even when they’re occupying the same space. But that depends whether you think something has to be felt as wet, or whether “wet” is just the objective state of being touched by water. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/01/21 08:20 PM |
| 1 | Are younger people objectively the most attractive?I think what age I find most attractive changes as I age. When I was 18 I thought 25 year olds were less attractive than 18 year olds most of the time. When I was 25 I thought 30 year olds looked old, now I’m 32 and think anyone under 28 or so looks like an actual child more often than not. I think people who say “everyone is most attractive in their early-mid 20s” is confusing objective beauty standards to what you’re actually most attracted to. When I look at a statue or a painting of a person… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/01/21 08:16 PM |
| 1 | Given how much the average woman cares about male height whether they realize or admit it or not and given how men have 0 control over their height. Women have 0 right to complain about just about any standard any man haswhy would you not be attracted to somebody missing a limb? I don’t know. I wish I felt differently. I guess I can’t say I never would be because who knows, but it would be a hard thing for me to get past. I wouldn’t leave my husband if he lost a limb at this point and I’d probably still be attracted to him sort of no matter what because when you know someone really closely already and have a bond physical stuff doesn’t factor into attraction as much, but I’d have a hard time with it. The point i… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/01/21 07:57 PM |
| 4 | The “patriarchy” is little more than the projection of women’s desire for power and they subvert responsibility for this by unjustly placing it on men.You don’t. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/01/21 04:56 PM |
| 4 | The “patriarchy” is little more than the projection of women’s desire for power and they subvert responsibility for this by unjustly placing it on men.Men and women compete professionally all the time, the issue is that women being competitive (assertive in some of the ways you mentioned) isn’t perceived the same way as men doing so. That’s the problem feminists are trying to fix. Women in professional environments have to work harder to BE competitive. I’m 5’10 and wear 3-4 inch heels to work because I want to be taken seriously, and I’ve noticed that when I’m taller than men I work with they speak to me differently. I am careful to speak in … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/01/21 04:53 PM |
| 3 | Both genders are NOT HYPERGAMOUS , only women are, men are OPPORTUNISTSIsn’t seeking “optimum” even just sexually still a form of hypergamy? Especially since often cheating and affairs leads to the loss of the initial partner? So even if it’s not your intention to marry your secretary, your pursuing someone you see as physically superior at the expense of your wife at home. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/01/21 10:20 PM |
| 10 | The “patriarchy” is little more than the projection of women’s desire for power and they subvert responsibility for this by unjustly placing it on men.The idea of fighting patriarchy isn’t to make women more powerful than men, it’s to make gender no longer a determining factor for power/social standing at all. Of course there will still be competition between women, and competition between men, and competition between men and women, but the competition will be based on merit not gender. Social hierarchy will always exist, the idea is the gender you’re born with shouldn’t start you out on a lower rung of the ladder. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/01/21 10:11 PM |
| 3 | Both genders are NOT HYPERGAMOUS , only women are, men are OPPORTUNISTSYeah people don’t do that. Maybe very very desperate people do. But like VERY desperate, or women who really want children and are single in their late 30s but usually? No people don’t date people they’re not attracted to. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/01/21 10:00 PM |
| 1 | Both genders are NOT HYPERGAMOUS , only women are, men are OPPORTUNISTSWell a lot of times when people cheat they’re just ENTICED by something and once they actually do it realize they don’t want it, but the action happens because the guy is drawn to another person despite having “built in” companionship. Whether or not it works out with that person doesn’t factor in to OPs point. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/01/21 09:57 PM |
| 0 | Do you think "game" is a myth or is there actually truth behind it?Well physical attractiveness isn’t just yes or no, it’s a spectrum. If we want to use the 1-10 scale of attractiveness that people like to use, if you’re really a 1-3 honestly, you’re going to have a hard time even if you have game. Still, you’ll have more of a chance than a 1-3 without game, and maybe even more than a socially awkward 3-4. I do think a 5-7 with game will probably be overall more successful than a socially inept or boring 8-10. It depends on what you mean by “game” too. When I t… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/01/21 07:15 PM |
| 7 | Both genders are NOT HYPERGAMOUS , only women are, men are OPPORTUNISTSSee, an example of how men, just like women, choose to date no one rather than people who don’t fit their standards for attractiveness. It’s normal human behavior to do that y’all. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/01/21 06:49 PM |
| 1 | Both genders are NOT HYPERGAMOUS , only women are, men are OPPORTUNISTSWhat sonicback is saying is that if it’s a heterosexual marriage, any woman that’s married comes with a man that’s married. this article tells us that ~50% of American 30 year olds are married. Sure, some of those marriages are homosexual but most are not, so let’s ignore that for now. If woman are so hypergamous that they won’t “settle” for men who aren’t in your top 10% whatever, then who are all the 30 year old women marrying? There wouldn’t be enough “worthy” men for 50% of 30 year olds to b… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/01/21 06:44 PM |
| 13 | Both genders are NOT HYPERGAMOUS , only women are, men are OPPORTUNISTSIf this is true, why are men more likely to cheat (this article shows a graph based on US GSS survey results as evidence). Furthermore, that difference widens as couples age, with the most likely cheaters being older men (people often get less attractive and sexually adventurous as they age, so presumably men are looking to “trade up” when their wives get old and they stop seeing them as the “best option” sexually). Apparently that trend has held true on the GSS since the 90s. Aren’t affairs jus… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/01/21 06:33 PM |
| 3 | Evolution of Penile Anatomy points to Multiple Men copulating with the same Woman. Your Reaction.women are holes that can’t escape Actually, the fact that having a big dick compared to body-size is selected for is evidence that female choice was very likely a factor in mating for our ancient ancestors. The only reason big dicks would be selected for is if females were choosing men with bigger dicks. Think about it, is having a big floppy schlong good for hunting/acquiring food? No, it gets in the way. Good for fighting/protection? No, it’s a vulnerable target you don’t want exposed, yet hum… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/01/21 04:53 PM |
| 2 | Evolution of Penile Anatomy points to Multiple Men copulating with the same Woman. Your Reaction.Yeah the physiology is correct, that’s biologists “best guess” about what the coronal ridge may have evolved for but it’s really a dumb and ineffective adaptation and it really is still at this point a “best guess,” we very well could find other functions for it there haven’t been that many studies done on specifically that, but we accept it as of now because it’s where the most/best evidence points and does kind of make sense even if it’s, again, pretty bad at its job. Evolutionary psychology i… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/01/21 04:41 PM |
| 7 | Evolution of Penile Anatomy points to Multiple Men copulating with the same Woman. Your Reaction.So physiologically that’s true, it is shaped like that to clear any excess semen remaining in the vagina from a previous sexual partner BUT: It’s a really poor adaptation for sperm competition and doesn’t help much, meaning sperm competition probably wasn’t as big a “priority” in humans than in some other primates/other species...also, so what? What does that have to do with modern human society and “pills” at all? Our ancient ancestors did a lot of things/were evolved for a lot of things that r… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/01/21 03:58 PM |
| 1 | Women DO NOT want you to share your emotionsThey’re not mutually exclusive. Blame=“it’s your fault” Showing someone she’s PART of the problem= “it’s both of our faults.” “Part” is the operative word here. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/01/21 09:31 PM |
| 1 | Is confidence on its own attractive to women or is confidence + competence what you look for?Definitely confidence. It shows security in oneself and one’s life. Someone can have a mediocre job and be average looking, but if he seems comfortable with those things and carries himself confidently as such, maybe even secure enough to joke about his average appearance etc... yeah that guy will attract more women than someone with more success who acts like he hates himself. There is a limit though: if someone is confident but the extreme of COMPLETELY incompetent in life skills: unemployed, … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/01/21 09:07 PM |
| 1 | Why do sexually successful men not complain about women if women are indeed the issue?economists and lawmakers alike are grappling with this Is there an economist somewhere that’s grappling with this? I’m sure there is. But no, the ones with any real power or professional respect aren’t. They have real issues to deal with like a global pandemic, various failing economies, war, environmental collapse, and brown people being killed constantly for no reason/the riots currently precipitating when they do. No one in politics or economics who’s word means anything gives a fuck how many… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/01/21 08:25 PM |
| 1 | Bald men are seen as more dominant, taller and stronger than men with hair. Women still heavily prefer men with hair. Which one would you choose and why?Agreed, he’s not an expert, but someone can look at a study with a critical eye and decide the methods don’t hold water whether or not he’s an expert. He can’t publish his critique, but he can argue based on it. I actually think the study IS telling of something, but I also see his point and think it’s valid and that he wasn’t just trashing it because he disagreed: he had good questions and “attractiveness” it is a very complicated thing to measure scientifically for some of the reasons he broug… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/01/21 08:14 PM |
| 1 | Why do sexually successful men not complain about women if women are indeed the issue?Yeah and the point is the types of people who view this particular issue through an institutional lens tend not to be sexually successful and that’s telling. I’d argue that plenty of sexually successful men talk about other institutional imbalances (wealth, race, class, gender etc...). Why would just this specific one be the one they choose “aloof masculinity” in? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/01/21 08:05 PM |
| 1 | Why do sexually successful men not complain about women if women are indeed the issue?I think they’re aware of “pretty privilege” and yeah pretty privilege is a thing that exists across the gender spectrum: pretty people get more attention and success. Don’t see many talking about the reasons less attractive men don’t get laid as being because “women’s standards are impossibly high” or talking about “growing sexlessness” as a social justice issue that needs to be resolved though. Maybe it’s just ones I’ve met, but I really haven’t seen it and i think that’s what OP is referring t… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/01/21 08:03 PM |
| 1 | Given how much the average woman cares about male height whether they realize or admit it or not and given how men have 0 control over their height. Women have 0 right to complain about just about any standard any man hasStandards are personal. Everyone has a right to whatever standards they have, it’s their own choice to limit their potential dating pool. If a guy wants a virgin because that’s important to him, great, he’s limiting his own prospects as much as he’s limiting the non-virgins’ opportunities to date him. If a woman wants a tall guy, she’s doing the same thing: giving up a huge portion of the available population because of her preference limits her own ability to find a mate as much as it limits sh… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/01/21 07:52 PM |
| 1 | Why do sexually successful men not complain about women if women are indeed the issue?Yes, but OPs point was specifically about the “institutional” types of complaints. The idea is even though they can’t really relate, rich people can still observe the wealth gap as an institutional issue. It’s there to see very clearly, sure maybe there are a handful of deniers who are out of touch enough to REALLY not understand, but most can see it as an issue whether or not they care enough to actively try to change it. It’s not like poor people are the only ones who see differences in access… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/01/21 07:43 PM |
| 3 | Bald men are seen as more dominant, taller and stronger than men with hair. Women still heavily prefer men with hair. Which one would you choose and why?Viewing statistics with a critical eye and evaluating a study’s validity based on its methodology is a crucial part of the scientific process and an integral and encouraged one among any truly scientifically minded group . That’s what “peer review” is. He’s allowed to critique the results of the study by critiquing the study. In fact, he should. You can find/build evidence for absolutely anything online. How do you think we ended up with a visible group of humans who in 2020 legitimately believe… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/01/21 07:33 PM |
| 2 | Why do sexually successful men not complain about women if women are indeed the issue?Notice how all of the things you wrote as examples were either about specific women in their lives/specific experience, or projected frustration from their personal experiences (“women are crazy” being equivalent to “men are dogs:” really the dude had an experience with a crazy lady or two recently and is venting about it by projecting it on all women)? None of that is about what sexually unsuccessful men here express as frustration with “women” which is that female culture is an institutional f… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/01/21 07:25 PM |
| 1 | Why do sexually successful men not complain about women if women are indeed the issue?You know, this is a really good point and my guess is all the red pillers etc... are going to tell you it’s because the sexually successful men are so satiated by all the pussy they’re getting that they can’t see what’s wrong with women. Don’t know know that when men get puss they become our tame and docile bewitched slaves who can’t see anything beyond the sea of vaginas and boobies in which they are constantly swimming? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/01/21 07:13 PM |
| 1 | Question for everyone: if you could get rid of your sex drive without damaging your body or motivation in any way, would you?Yeah, fair. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/01/21 06:53 PM |
| 8 | Question for everyone: if you could get rid of your sex drive without damaging your body or motivation in any way, would you?Hah, having a sex drive doesn’t make you a sex addict. What’s detrimental is when you’re addicted to it in a way that causes you to do other stuff that’s bad for your health (have unsafe sex with people you shouldn’t and getting STDs/get into bad situations because you CAN’T go without it). Sex itself is great for you both mentally and physically. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/01/21 06:48 PM |
| 2 | Question for everyone: if you could get rid of your sex drive without damaging your body or motivation in any way, would you?Isn’t the concept that this is true but if you gave up your sex drive you wouldn’t think it was fun anymore or care at all whether you have it or not? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/01/21 06:45 PM |
| 6 | Question for everyone: if you could get rid of your sex drive without damaging your body or motivation in any way, would you?Because I have a husband: yes probably but only if we both did it. Sex is awesome but if neither of us cared about it it might be kind of cool to not need it/not worry about getting pregnant by accident and just be happy doing other stuff. When I was single? Absolutely would have given it up in a second no questions asked. I think if I didn’t need sex/spend too much time and energy finding/making sacrifices for it when I was younger I could have owned this world hard. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/01/21 06:44 PM |
| 17 | What makes “mommas boys” undesirable? As a father, how should I tell my son to not be a “mommas boy” without at the same time promoting “toxic masculinity”?If my nieces/nephews are any indication, as soon as he hits puberty you won’t have to try, he won’t want to spend any time with either of you and you’ll be yearning for the “mommas boy” days. His peers will do most of it for you, he’ll make friends his own age in school and it’ll stop being “cool” to hang out with mom and dad for fun. I used to follow my dad around constantly when I was 5, no one ever told me to stop, I just became a teenager and my brain/hormones decided my parents were the lea… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/01/21 06:32 PM |
| 16 | What makes “mommas boys” undesirable? As a father, how should I tell my son to not be a “mommas boy” without at the same time promoting “toxic masculinity”?What women mean by “mommas boy” isn’t that a guy loves his mom. It’s adorable when a guy loves his mom and is nice to her and likes hanging out with her. It also shows he like/is comfortable with women and that’s a positive in dating. “Mommas boy” is about not being able to separate from your parents when you’re supposed to be an adult, I’m sure guys wouldn’t want a “daddy’s girl” either (who still as an adult does everything her dad says, depends on her dad, and prioritizes her dad over her par… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/01/21 06:21 PM |
| 2 | What’s the most annoying relationship ritual to you?People who text when they have absolutely nothing to say just because they need the validation of a response: I mean the “good morning” or “goodnight” or “hi how are you?” text that says nothing else except “you’re my girlfriend or potential girlfriend and I need to be validated in that by your attention even if I have nothing to say to you and it’s a total waste of your time and mine I just want a response.” I’m fine with not receiving a text for a day from someone if they don’t have anything p… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/01/21 06:08 PM |
| 4 | Taller women don't struggle because they can't find a guy that likes taller chicks, but because tall women won't accept men shorter than them.It’s a little of both: most women like men taller than them, most men don’t like to be that much shorter than their partners. I’m 5’11 which means in shoes I’m 6 ft +. I have absolutely experienced men being turned off by my height, usually men 5’9 and under, is it ALL men? No, some like it, others don’t care that much, same as ALL women aren’t turned off by shorter guys: some like it, others don’t care that much. Most shorter guys feel at least a little sensitive about being short, being with s… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/01/21 11:50 PM |
| 1 | Nerdy, awkward and/or ugly girls fuck ugly low smv guys all the time. You're delusional if you deny this. Incels aren't trying hard enough or just have standards too high.There are power dynamics involved in sex, and having it or not can make a man feel more or less personal worth, but sex doesn’t really GET men power. A virgin is just as likely to go to college as a man with experience (it happens all the time), a virgin is just as likely to get a job and make money as a man with experience/his being a virgin doesn’t affect his income, a virgin can get a loan, and buy a house, and run for political office and his being a virgin doesn’t affect any of that. Being … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/01/21 11:27 PM |
| 1 | Women DO NOT want you to share your emotionsYou’re taking it personally “I feel like our sex life isn’t want it used to be.”=no one party blamed just a statement of how you personally feel to see if she agrees. “Is there anything I can do?”=making it clear you know there might be and are ready to listen if there is. The rest of what I wrote: “It’s making me feel like you aren’t attracted to me anymore”= establishing that she’s a part of it too without blaming her, and showing that the way she’s part of the problem/her actions or lack ther… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/01/21 11:12 PM |
| 1 | Nerdy, awkward and/or ugly girls fuck ugly low smv guys all the time. You're delusional if you deny this. Incels aren't trying hard enough or just have standards too high.so does socialized welfare In what way does offering socialized welfare infringe on another persons rights? This is also getting VERY off topic but you brought it up so I’m responding. not a fan of “privilege” because it’s meant to demonize those on top. The way I used to word wasn’t even that. It was the dictionary definition of “a privilege” not the social justice definition of “someone’s privilege.” nah, that’s your straw man If you really want to accuse me of a logical fallacy for that state… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/01/21 07:51 PM |
| 1 | Nerdy, awkward and/or ugly girls fuck ugly low smv guys all the time. You're delusional if you deny this. Incels aren't trying hard enough or just have standards too high.My point is that not getting laid isn’t something you can really place on the same level as any of that stuff because it doesn’t affect your ability succeed. It’s WAY more of comfort and a privilege than any of that stuff (and I know a college education is a privilege but in today’s world it really SHOULD be a right). Getting laid in itself doesn’t get you wealth, or power, or increase your social standing, or allow you access to realms of society you otherwise wouldn’t have (unless I guess you’… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/01/21 06:57 PM |
| 1 | Women DO NOT want you to share your emotionsNo part of what I said was “it’s all my fault.” If you read it that way you’re projecting. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/01/21 06:31 PM |
| 1 | Why won't women admit that they are ruined by hypergamy and casual sex?Not saying women don’t know what they want, and yes that comes from experience, but it’s usually not specific to a person, it’s a way of having sex that she could communicate about if it’s not happening and adjustments could be made (if there’s a position she likes, or a speed, or whatever else, no reason any guy couldn’t try those things). The point is it’s an insecure man who enters a sexual situation thinking “every lover this woman has had is better than me so I should worry she’s comparing.… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/01/21 06:31 PM |
| 1 | Nerdy, awkward and/or ugly girls fuck ugly low smv guys all the time. You're delusional if you deny this. Incels aren't trying hard enough or just have standards too high.Riches aren’t but society is set up such that basic human rights (food, water, shelter) cost money. There is government aid for the poor in the west BECAUSE of that fact (foodbanks, welfare, etc...). Those are things you ARE owed by society. My point is sex ISN’T owed because it ISN’T something you need to survive and you really can’t compare the condition of involuntary celibacy to the condition of poverty at all. No one has a responsibility to make sure you’re getting laid the way our society … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/01/21 06:25 PM |
| 1 | Nerdy, awkward and/or ugly girls fuck ugly low smv guys all the time. You're delusional if you deny this. Incels aren't trying hard enough or just have standards too high.You really just can’t compare being deprived of sex with living in poverty. Sex isn’t a basic human right the way access to food, water, shelter, and the life-necessities poverty deprives people of are. You’re not going to die of not getting laid. Is it a pleasant way to live? No but you’re not going to die and you can be plenty successful in life without sex. That’s the point: incels act like it IS a right, and that’s a world-view you CAN AND SHOULD choose to dismiss. If someone is living in po… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/01/21 05:38 PM |
| 1 | Do you ACTUALLY want a woman to “settle” for you?I was replying to points you were making, as you were to me. The conversation evolved as a result of both of us . “Straw man” only applies if a point is argued that wasn’t brought up as important by the opposite party: you brought up “number of options women vs men have” as important, I addressed that point in response, and the way I addressed it is by pointing out that you might be misperceiving that difference in options due to approach. If you were making points you didn’t want replies to bec… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/01/21 05:28 PM |
| 1 | Why won't women admit that they are ruined by hypergamy and casual sex?Most women actually don’t do that, but guys who are insecure about themselves probably think or worry that they do. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/01/21 05:14 PM |
| 2 | Do you agree with the observation that FDS women buying themselves an engagement ring is the equivalent of an incel buying himself a sex doll?Nah, it’s way stupider. A doll is just a sex toy, it’s makes masturbation more fun and satisfying for people who are into that experience. Someone buying themselves an engagement ring is spending thousands of dollars to make other people think their married? I don’t even get it? Do they actually do that? I’m a woman and have never seen a single woman buy herself a ring. That’s really dumb. Plus if you’re wearing a ring it’s probably harder to date? I don’t get it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/01/21 05:12 PM |
| 3 | But if a guy says this then they are IncelsTell me about it. I’ve never had an ex or even an ex hookup not try again sometimes YEARS later and in really annoying ways where they tell me they “think about me all the time” and fucking it up was a huge life regret. YEARS AND YEARS later as though I’m still even remotely thinking about them. Almost every woman I know has some version of that experience, and I’m sure men do too. People just don’t know what they got til it’s gone and when their lives suck later try to weasel their way back in.… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/01/21 04:59 PM |
| 0 | Imagine being a women who struggles with datingThat’s how it looks maybe from the perspective of a man who has been turned down. You want it to be that way, because if that’s how women work then rejection isn’t about anything that’s in your control to change. Of course, if you’re turned down it’s not because you’re doing something wrong or need to self-improve, it’s because of “high standards.” | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/01/21 05:36 AM |
| 1 | Imagine being a women who struggles with datingI’m about to go to bed but I’ll respond to this before I do. you didn’t really refute anything I said you just twisted the meanings a bit: that’s a gf complaining about her bfs options. Yeah, never said it wasn’t, just said that those “options” are the same as “orbiters” and often were there when the guy was single/he wasn’t dating or sleeping with them but they wished he were and continue to linger around. being fat is a choice, being short is not. Being fat is a choice the same way your income… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/01/21 05:07 AM |
| 1 | A message that must be shoved down on all 3 holes of a womanWell no one is pushing to be sent to prison, if you want to talk about reforming the criminal justice system absolutely all for it. A ton of those men in prison are also there for drug or gang-related crimes. Men are more likely to sell drugs or commit gang violence, because it’s not a very “ladylike” profession in a lot of circles/families. Drug/gang stuff is usually something boys are brought into and not girls by peers or family members. The goal shouldn’t be to get girls into selling drugs a… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/01/21 04:26 AM |
| -1 | A message that must be shoved down on all 3 holes of a womanYeah no one says “all men are better off than all women.” Obviously a rich woman is going to have an easier time than a poor man, a white woman will in a lot of ways have an easier life than a black man. The concept is that if you were to control for everything else (same level wealth, same race, same education, same orientation etc...) the man will always have more societal privilege than the woman by nature of being a man. The idea that feminists think every women had a worse lot in life than … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/01/21 04:18 AM |
| 2 | Imagine being a women who struggles with datingmen don’t have orbiters I beg to differ. We just don’t call them “orbiters” but ask women if their boyfriends have or ever have had lady “friends” or coworkers/acquaintances who that hang around and it’s kinda obvious are just kinda waiting to see if you break up. A lot of guys do, even guys who aren’t “chads.” A lot of women take issue with it, just look around any Reddit sub about women or dating etc... you’ll find lots of complaining on the subject. you’re still looking at it from a woman’s p… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/01/21 04:04 AM |
| 6 | But if a guy says this then they are Incels🤐🤐🤐 | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/01/21 03:51 AM |
| 1 | Do you ACTUALLY want a woman to “settle” for you?when I say hundreds of rejections to get one yes I’m talking about offline. You ask out hundreds of women in person? If so you’re doing it wrong and that’s why you get rejected. Ask girls out who seem like they want to be asked out (are they giving signals? Smiling? Making eye contact? Starting conversation?) if you’re just seeing girls and thinking they’re babes and walking up to them with no reason to believe they want you to, yeah you’re gonna get rejected, and unless you’re Brad Pitt I doubt… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/01/21 03:32 AM |
| 1 | Imagine being a women who struggles with datingNo, but my point is men do select on things that are just as superficial: Body type/weight, breast size, and age are just some of those things. do men select for intelligence? I think intelligence is a totally fair thing to select based on, so is sense of humor, ability to communicate, sexual compatibility, maturity, being a good listener. If we’re not supppsed to be picky about those things then what ARE we supposed to judge based on? Is your idea that we should just not care at all who we slee… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/01/21 03:25 AM |
| 5 | Why won't women admit that they are ruined by hypergamy and casual sex?Why do men want to fuck instead of masturbating? It’s a different experience. Plus making out is awesome and you can’t make out with a dildo. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/01/21 03:15 AM |
| 3 | Why won't women admit that they are ruined by hypergamy and casual sex?Don’t shit on Olive Garden bro. Unlimited breadsticks all day. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/01/21 03:14 AM |
| 3 | "You need to work on your personality, your bio sucks, that's why you don't get matches."Looks like it’s both men and women rating each other. Graph is titled “people” so not gender specific. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/01/21 03:10 AM |
| 2 | There should be a reality TV show where FDS members are paired up with PPD/RP members and are forced to go on 3 dates. CMVPitch it. Make millions. There’d be that one couple that actually makes it in an “opposites attract” way and everyone falls in love with/ they get a spin off about their weird married life. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/01/21 03:08 AM |
| 11 | But if a guy says this then they are IncelsWait aren’t literally all incels just this and they’re all really mad about it. Aren’t men who can’t handle social isolation at least half of the reason this sub even exists? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/01/21 03:05 AM |
| 4 | But if a guy says this then they are IncelsHah, let me tell you, they ALL try to come back. I got the text messages to prove it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/01/21 03:03 AM |
| 1 | Imagine being a women who struggles with datingI never said women didn’t have standards about men’s bodies, I said men have equally harsh standards on women’s bodies, and there are individual men and women who are more or less particular about physical traits, or who like different things. No matter what you look like (maybe unless you’re Laura Croft era Angelina Jolie) there will be people who don’t like it, and people who do. Depending on what you look like, those categories of people might be more unbalanced in one direction. My point is … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/01/21 02:57 AM |
| 6 | Imagine being a women who struggles with datingSo “Don’t be fat” is okay, but if women have standards about a man’s body (muscle tone/height) that’s problematic? I’d say “don’t be over 30” is another standard I see a lot from men on PPD, even ones who are in their late 20s-early 30s themselves. I’m almost 5’11 and I’ve had men tell me I’m “too tall” or comment on the fact that I have big hands (they’re proportional but yeah I’m 5’10.5 I have big hands). I’m an MMA fighter so I have muscular legs, and that’s another thing I’ve been scrutinize… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/01/21 02:14 AM |
| 1 | Do you ACTUALLY want a woman to “settle” for you?I’ve honestly seen so many guys do it I don’t know if I could refer you to just one. I’d have to look back at old posts. That’s good to know though. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/01/21 02:00 AM |
| 8 | Imagine being a women who struggles with datingI think it’s really funny that dudes on this sub all have this concept that being a woman you just walk outside every morning to a line up of guys in their knees with rings. Most people struggle with dating. Dating is hard and complicated and rejection hurts/everyone has to suffer some of it at some point. Hell, even celebrities (the people we all look at as the most beautiful) have dating/relationship trouble, it makes national news constantly. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/01/21 11:24 PM |
| 1 | Do you ACTUALLY want a woman to “settle” for you?There’s no “already done that” it’s something you continue to do until you meet someone, or you can give up and give yourself absolutely 0 chance by becoming an incel which makes you completely undateable, and then continue to take your frustrations out on others the longer that goes on. I don’t know how old you are, but there’s no time period on it. I see all types of people dating all the time, they’re not all rich or beautiful or perfect. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/01/21 11:02 PM |
| 1 | Nerdy, awkward and/or ugly girls fuck ugly low smv guys all the time. You're delusional if you deny this. Incels aren't trying hard enough or just have standards too high.Hah, well it did actually happen. I’m not saying it happens all the time, it started because OP was talking about how nerds get laid via other nerds in niche groups (like furries and WoW) so I gave a real life example I’d seen. You don’t have to believe it I guess? It’s a weird story to make up, | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/01/21 10:54 PM |
| 1 | Nerdy, awkward and/or ugly girls fuck ugly low smv guys all the time. You're delusional if you deny this. Incels aren't trying hard enough or just have standards too high.*inuit But yeah how did you know!?!? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/01/21 10:49 PM |
| 1 | Nerdy, awkward and/or ugly girls fuck ugly low smv guys all the time. You're delusional if you deny this. Incels aren't trying hard enough or just have standards too high.That’s shitty and racist, but it isn’t gaslighting. Heh. People say things/make assumptions about me because of my race too, it’s not gaslighting it’s just crappy and prejudice. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/01/21 10:48 PM |
| 1 | Do you ACTUALLY want a woman to “settle” for you?you essentially have to gut up and deal with hundreds of rejections Yeah, which is something you choose to participate in on apps. You’re putting yourself out there “cold” not like in person where if you ask someone out there’s probably some lead up (flirting, eye contact, something determining that the person is interested and will likely say yes before you take the risk and ask). If you’re getting suspicion it’s because you’re not looking for those signs before asking. That means less rejectio… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/01/21 10:45 PM |
| 1 | Nerdy, awkward and/or ugly girls fuck ugly low smv guys all the time. You're delusional if you deny this. Incels aren't trying hard enough or just have standards too high.Well they’re not always content being poor, doesn’t mean they’re not content in other parts of their lives. I’m not talking about extremes (homelessness etc...) because yes I imagine it’s hard to be content in your life living on the street. Also being poor and being an incel are different. Again, poverty IS something the world does to you and that your born into. Not getting laid is something you choose to think of as something the world does to you, but it isn’t. I’m not telling anyone to be c… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/01/21 10:36 PM |
| 1 | Do you ACTUALLY want a woman to “settle” for you?avoid using the term if you want to be taken seriously When I used it I was literally quoting men I see all over this forum who seem like they are taken seriously, but good to know I’ll take that into account. most of us highly diminish the part sex made us to start or maintain a relationship and increase the parts that will not make women freak out Sex is important to both of us. We started as hookup buddies in a purely physical relationship and it evolved from there on its own. Same on both si… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/01/21 10:29 PM |
| 1 | Nerdy, awkward and/or ugly girls fuck ugly low smv guys all the time. You're delusional if you deny this. Incels aren't trying hard enough or just have standards too high.Hah, I’m not any “pill.” Just sharing a story. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/01/21 10:19 PM |
| 2 | Women DO NOT want you to share your emotionsYou can share them however you want, but yeah there are ways that people do and don’t like being talked to and it’s in their rights to respond as such if they feel like they’re being blamed or attacked. There are lots of situations in life where you might be feeling something and have to measure or consider others in the way you discuss them, that’s part of being a member of society, a member of a workplace, friendship, partnership. It’s just being a mature and decent human being. You’re always … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/01/21 10:19 PM |
| 1 | Do you ACTUALLY want a woman to “settle” for you?The thing is, you wouldn’t be alone forever. You might have to spend a period of time alone. That period of time might be years, in that time learn how to enjoy solitude, make friends, find hobbies (those things also make you more inherently attractive), rather than lashing out at women and the world for your loneliness. It means you’ll have fewer relationships but the ones you have will be of better quality. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/01/21 10:13 PM |
| 5 | Women DO NOT want you to share your emotionsNo, it’s not at all. It’s acknowledging a problem that clearly is about two people (sex life issues are always about both people), opening the conversation so you can both discuss and fix and issue. The fact that you see that as “groveling” shows you don’t have the type of emotional maturity I’m talking about or that most women value in a man. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/01/21 10:09 PM |
| 1 | Women DO NOT want you to share your emotionsIt’s not about the type of emotions you show, it’s about how you communicate them. Most guys who “turn women off” with their insecurities aren’t turning them off with the insecurities, but with the way the insecurities manifest and are approached in conversation. Women do want you to share your anxieties and discomforts, but if the conversations is communicated “you never have sex with me it’s been 100 times you keep rejecting me” and seems combative/like you’re telling her she owes you sex and … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/01/21 07:25 PM |
| 1 | Nerdy, awkward and/or ugly girls fuck ugly low smv guys all the time. You're delusional if you deny this. Incels aren't trying hard enough or just have standards too high.Gaslighting is specifically when someone makes you think you’re insane/something didn’t happen that very clearly happened (like you see someone throw a football and someone next to you is like ‘’what are you talking about there’s no football”), it’s not thinking you might be wrong, that’s just self doubt. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/01/21 02:58 PM |
| 1 | Nerdy, awkward and/or ugly girls fuck ugly low smv guys all the time. You're delusional if you deny this. Incels aren't trying hard enough or just have standards too high.at least it’s not my personality that’s wrong, it’s women and society that think my being is wrong So, this is what I meant by “blaming women and society for the fact that you’re not getting laid.” That’s a choice you’re making to think that way, and that mode of thought/mindset makes you less attractive to women. at least I won’t be gaslighted anymore. So many people use the term “gaslighting” for things that are not gaslighting, they’re just not agreeing or sympathizing. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/01/21 02:25 PM |
| 1 | Do you ACTUALLY want a woman to “settle” for you?both men and women want to optimize but men are frustrated because they are seemingly more willing to settle for less attractive women... So the issue is that women have an easier time just choosing not to fuck at all rather than fuck someone that doesn’t turn them on. That actually make some sense. Men are allowed to be frustrated by that. I still don’t think women have to fuck anyone they don’t want to though just to abate that frustration, women don’t exist to keep men happy/ the frustration … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/01/21 02:19 PM |
| 1 | Do you ACTUALLY want a woman to “settle” for you?So when RP talks about “settling” it’s based on physical attractiveness (“plain Jane” and “Joe schmo” being of average looks should be happy with each other’s average looks). I think that’s the disconnect. When women tell each other “not to settle” they’re not really talking about finding someone who is perfect in every way, they’re talking about a mix of the way a guy makes them feel/treats them (and yes physical attraction factors into how he makes her feel but it’s just one small part and usu… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/01/21 02:07 PM |
| 1 | Nerdy, awkward and/or ugly girls fuck ugly low smv guys all the time. You're delusional if you deny this. Incels aren't trying hard enough or just have standards too high.I don’t consider every person who has trouble getting laid an incel. People are born with various factors that could make it more or less difficult to find a mate, being an incel is about how you choose to handle/view your rejection (as though sex is something that’s owed and so something to blame society for not providing you with and opportunity to have). That’s a choice. It’s similar to how you’re not born with a political party. You might be born into a situation that will make you more like… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/01/21 01:46 PM |
| 2 | Nerdy, awkward and/or ugly girls fuck ugly low smv guys all the time. You're delusional if you deny this. Incels aren't trying hard enough or just have standards too high.That I don’t have an answer to, but apparently it happens more than we think. “You killed an orc for me can I see your dick?” Maybe went like that. I have heard the strongest bonds between people form in war. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/01/21 01:36 PM |
| 0 | Nerdy, awkward and/or ugly girls fuck ugly low smv guys all the time. You're delusional if you deny this. Incels aren't trying hard enough or just have standards too high.The difference is you’re born into poverty usually, you’re just choosing to be an incel. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/01/21 01:15 PM |
| 1 | Nerdy, awkward and/or ugly girls fuck ugly low smv guys all the time. You're delusional if you deny this. Incels aren't trying hard enough or just have standards too high.That’s exactly OPs point though. Thats still getting laid. They’re getting laid. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/01/21 01:13 PM |
| 1 | Men face real issues that have nothing to do sex. It's insulting to men to suggest sex is the ultimate solution.Hah, you actually just quoted half a sentence I used cut in the middle to make it look like I said something opposite of what I actually said so I’m not going to engage with this anymore. You don’t want to see or learn another perspective, you just want to be right. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/01/21 01:12 PM |
| 1 | Nerdy, awkward and/or ugly girls fuck ugly low smv guys all the time. You're delusional if you deny this. Incels aren't trying hard enough or just have standards too high.Hah, no they were my neighbors in an apartment building we ran into each other from time to time and they told me how they’d met. It came up in friendly neighbor conversation as things do. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/01/21 01:08 PM |
| 1 | Men face real issues that have nothing to do sex. It's insulting to men to suggest sex is the ultimate solution.So most of your argument is that feminism is “anti-man” because it focuses on women’s rights and doesn’t mention men’s rights? Of course it doesn’t mention men’s rights, feminists aren’t fighting for men’s rights, that doesn’t mean they’re trying to take those right away. That’s like saying groups that advocate for gay rights are racist because they’re not focusing on equality for people of color. If there’s something societal institutions aren’t giving you as a man that you think they should be… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/01/21 06:03 AM |
| 1 | Do you ACTUALLY want a woman to “settle” for you?I actually laughed out loud at the fact that you place high “n-count” women as equal to blood relatives in terms of who you would never fuck even at your most desperate. Sounds like your count is pretty high by the way you described “fleeing the scene.” You think girls who’ve hooked up with you and barely know you haven’t done the same with a bunch of other guys? You’ve probably slept with tons of high count girls whether you know it or not. I used the word “league” because I’ve seen it used her… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/01/21 05:51 AM |
| 1 | Do you ACTUALLY want a woman to “settle” for you?This has nothing to do with my post at all though, I wasn’t talking about what “chads” want. I also don’t think all “chads” want the same thing any more than all women do. I don’t need a Reddit sub to tell me the more physically attractive you are the easier it is to get laid, and that some people want casual sex while others want relationships. That’s obvious. It’s silly to think about that as “unfair,” because who is attracted to whom in the universe isn’t based on fairness, people aren’t owed… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/01/21 04:54 AM |
| 1 | Do you ACTUALLY want a woman to “settle” for you?Yeah but if someone is in a relationship theyre probably getting laid, someone who can get a date is likely able to get laid (if a first date maybe not that particular night but it represents the possibility). It doesn’t matter which part you’re focusing on. The point is if those guys are able to date women likely they are able to have sex with said women as that is a part of dating. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/01/21 03:37 AM |
| 1 | Do you ACTUALLY want a woman to “settle” for you?beauty standards don’t affect your dating though...men like all kinds of women. Beauty standards absolutely affect women’s dating lives. Talk to any woman with a weight problem and ask her what it’s like to date/be on a dating app. How many men on PPD do you see talking about how women over 30 aren’t hot anymore? Doesn’t matter your gender: you’ll have an easier time getting dates the hotter you are, and if you’re too far “below average” you’ll have a much much harder time unless you make up for… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/01/21 02:44 AM |
| 1 | Do you ACTUALLY want a woman to “settle” for you?How do you know that? And what are these “standards” based on? Again, who is assessing the value? Is there like a “Kelly blue book” for men and women? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/01/21 02:34 AM |
| 1 | Do you ACTUALLY want a woman to “settle” for you?Yeah how do you know if they could or couldn’t: is it based on your assessment of what they look like? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/01/21 02:29 AM |
| 2 | Nerdy, awkward and/or ugly girls fuck ugly low smv guys all the time. You're delusional if you deny this. Incels aren't trying hard enough or just have standards too high.Socialize with men then, socialize with anyone. Make friends. Friends lead to friends of friends, or friends of friend’s girlfriends, or just people to go out in public with and meet other people and potential dating. More people you hang out with more likely you are to meet new people. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/01/21 02:21 AM |
| 1 | Do you ACTUALLY want a woman to “settle” for you?Yeah it’s because people who have had experiences have a sense of what they want and that that makes said men insecure. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/01/21 02:20 AM |
| 2 | Nerdy, awkward and/or ugly girls fuck ugly low smv guys all the time. You're delusional if you deny this. Incels aren't trying hard enough or just have standards too high.No they got married after. They did live together when I met them but they’d only been together 1.5 years when I met them. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/01/21 02:18 AM |
| 1 | Do you ACTUALLY want a woman to “settle” for you?Who determines what they’re “worth.” You? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/01/21 02:16 AM |
| 1 | Nerdy, awkward and/or ugly girls fuck ugly low smv guys all the time. You're delusional if you deny this. Incels aren't trying hard enough or just have standards too high.Nah these were people I lived in an apartment next to in 2015. Even more telling of their nerd hood they still played wow in 2015. Probably have been since ‘06 wouldn’t doubt it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/01/21 02:16 AM |
| 1 | Do you ACTUALLY want a woman to “settle” for you?We’re you dating 20 years ago? OLD has made dating really suck for both genders (in different ways but really for both). It’s a terrible cesspool. Just meet people in real life it’ll solve that problem and you won’t have to deal with the insecurities OLD gives really EVERY PERSON of any gender even the most gorgeous girls. It’s the way apps are set up, it creates a shallow culture because it completely removes the human element of choosing who you want to go on a date with and reduces it down to… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/01/21 02:12 AM |
| 2 | Nerdy, awkward and/or ugly girls fuck ugly low smv guys all the time. You're delusional if you deny this. Incels aren't trying hard enough or just have standards too high.Yeah, I’m not saying you can be completely lame every regard and date: I’m addressing the specific statement that only men with either money/power/fame or model-looks or both get dates and most men don’t. It kinda seems like a lot of men do, and many of them are average in various ways/the women they’re with don’t seem to mind at all. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/01/21 01:58 AM |
| 1 | Do you ACTUALLY want a woman to “settle” for you?Yeah, so why so much talk about how women should lower their standards? Isn’t that “settling” e.g. not what anyone wants? If someone has to lower their standards to like you that’s not someone you want to be with anyway. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/01/21 01:54 AM |
| 1 | I’m genuinely worried for some of you, some of y’all need help👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏 Amen sis. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/01/21 01:37 AM |
| 5 | Nerdy, awkward and/or ugly girls fuck ugly low smv guys all the time. You're delusional if you deny this. Incels aren't trying hard enough or just have standards too high.Is she? In what way exactly? Again, so we’re going to assume that any man I saw out with a woman in 12 years as a bartender who wasn’t top 10% traditional beauty (honestly most because most people aren’t) is either wealthy or powerful? If that’s the case all these people worried about the wealth gap in the US have no idea what they’re talking about because apparently EVERYONE is rich. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/01/21 01:33 AM |
| 0 | Do you ACTUALLY want a woman to “settle” for you?That does seem like what they want. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/01/21 01:30 AM |
| 0 | Do you ACTUALLY want a woman to “settle” for you?I mean I used “date” as a blanket term for anything from “go on a date (maybe fuck)” to “relationship.” If you’re dating someone you’re probably also fucking them or think you might want to one would assume. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/01/21 01:29 AM |
| -2 | Do you ACTUALLY want a woman to “settle” for you?Most women don’t think of “settling” as being about leagues, or really think about leagues at all. I’m with someone, I don’t know if we’re the same league or not and I don’t really think about it, I just know he’s attractive to me and I’m attractive to him, and we make each other laugh and like hanging out/having sex so we date. That’s how it works. If you’re coming at it from the perspective of “leagues” and what various people deserve you’re doing it wrong. It’s not a math problem. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/01/21 01:26 AM |
| 1 | Do you ACTUALLY want a woman to “settle” for you?I can’t read any of those articles as they’re in German and don’t speak German, so I can’t respond to them. I was a little bit confused by the wording of your other point: are you saying women in media are “plus size/average size?” Hardly. Name one female celebrity who is over a size 4 and isn’t cast specifically for being “fat” as a character trait, or praised for being beautiful or famous/successful “despite her size.” Just the fact that there’s a different category of modeling for “plus sized… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/01/21 01:19 AM |
| 4 | Nerdy, awkward and/or ugly girls fuck ugly low smv guys all the time. You're delusional if you deny this. Incels aren't trying hard enough or just have standards too high.It sure didn’t seem like all of them did. I guess maybe EVERY SINGLE short for unattractive man who I saw on a date at at various bars I worked in for 12 years was secretly loaded despite not looking rich, throwing money around, or paying with any kind of fancy credit card but is that REALLY an easier thing to assume than that maybe people who aren’t your idea of an “alpha” or “chad” actually do get dates if they spend their time making friends/socializing instead of scouring the internet for “s… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/01/21 01:13 AM |
| 1 | Do you ACTUALLY want a woman to “settle” for you?Ok, I think that’s fair. I think most women are pretty realistic in their expectations, though. Maybe not teenagers/really immature ones that act like teenagers, but most. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/01/21 01:09 AM |
| 4 | Nerdy, awkward and/or ugly girls fuck ugly low smv guys all the time. You're delusional if you deny this. Incels aren't trying hard enough or just have standards too high.Yes but the fact hot girls won’t date them is terrible and comes from the fact that women’s standards are just so impossibly high that the men of the world aren’t getting the societal sex quota they are owed per year oh god it’s terrible. What happens if you don’t get to nut??? Have you seen all the scientific articles about how the amount of semen in the collective blue balls of 2020 men under an attractiveness score of 7 is building up at an alarming rate and destroying the ozone? If women don… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/01/21 12:47 AM |
| -2 | Nerdy, awkward and/or ugly girls fuck ugly low smv guys all the time. You're delusional if you deny this. Incels aren't trying hard enough or just have standards too high.Yeah and probably #1 of those factors is them being an incel. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/01/21 12:43 AM |
| 8 | Nerdy, awkward and/or ugly girls fuck ugly low smv guys all the time. You're delusional if you deny this. Incels aren't trying hard enough or just have standards too high.I think OP is talking about real nerd guys not 2020 “nerd guys.” True neck beards. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/01/21 12:42 AM |
| 1 | Nerdy, awkward and/or ugly girls fuck ugly low smv guys all the time. You're delusional if you deny this. Incels aren't trying hard enough or just have standards too high.I had some neighbors who met on WoW and got married and were literally that. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/01/21 12:40 AM |
| 2 | Nerdy, awkward and/or ugly girls fuck ugly low smv guys all the time. You're delusional if you deny this. Incels aren't trying hard enough or just have standards too high.Hah, yeah last time I was single I went on three dates with a guy I was attracted to physically and thought seemed cool. Date three something about gender politics came up and the stuff he said sounded like it came straight from /r red pill and I dropped him like a hot rock based on that alone. It made him so not hot to hear him complain about how he’s not rich or dominant so he can’t get laid even though he’s a “cool guy and a nice guy.” It’s just so whiny and desperate. Like play me your tiny … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/01/21 12:39 AM |
| 0 | Nerdy, awkward and/or ugly girls fuck ugly low smv guys all the time. You're delusional if you deny this. Incels aren't trying hard enough or just have standards too high.They have conventions where they go and meet people like them (other furries). That’s how you connect with people/get laid/get girlfriends: meet ones that are like you and will connect with you. I don’t know any furries personally but I’m sure OP is correct about them getting tons of furry ass with each other. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/01/21 12:33 AM |
| 2 | Nerdy, awkward and/or ugly girls fuck ugly low smv guys all the time. You're delusional if you deny this. Incels aren't trying hard enough or just have standards too high.the point you made about furries was such a good point and I am lol’ing. I’m with you on this all the way. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/01/21 12:30 AM |
| 7 | Nerdy, awkward and/or ugly girls fuck ugly low smv guys all the time. You're delusional if you deny this. Incels aren't trying hard enough or just have standards too high.Yeah I think most incels don’t realize that the reason they’re not getting laid isn’t because women “won’t fuck anyone below a 7” or “won’t fuck anyone who isn’t a 6’3 billionaire” or whatever, it’s because a lot of them are socially isolated so don’t meet/have access to enough women to get laid. I was a bartender for 12 years. I saw MANY dates/couples. Girls date unattractive guys, attractive girls date unattractive guys, attractive guys date unattractive girls, attractive people date each othe… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/01/21 12:26 AM |
| 1 | Do you ACTUALLY want a woman to “settle” for you?My point is that settling is bad. People shouldn’t do it. Seems like you agree. Women should have standards and not date people if they feel like it’s “settling.” Just be alone until you find someone you don’t feel like you’re “settling” for. Men should do the same. Resentment avoided. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/01/21 12:11 AM |
| 1 | Boy, women do love their "Don't settle" motto. Imagine men had the same mindset. Most women would be virgins.What I’m saying is men SHOULD adopt that model, it’s a mature way to date, and I don’t think all women would be virgins any more than all men are now. I hope the people I date have that motto. I don’t want someone who would settle out of desperation or horniness or loneliness, I want someone who thinks I’m the best and wants me because I’m awesome. I’m not saying I AM objectively the best, but yeah I want someone who sees me that way. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/01/21 12:07 AM |
| 1 | Do you ACTUALLY want a woman to “settle” for you?Ok so your issue is with tinder/OLD culture. Fair, it’s bad, and absolutely creates a “super market” dating environment where there always might be someone better a swipe away and since you don’t REALLY know someone if it’s OLD strangers and there’s still hundreds of profiles waiting in your pocket it’s easy to dismiss people quickly for trivial reasons. I disagree that women are the only ones participating in it, men do it just as much. There’s an easy fix for that: just date people you meet in… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/01/21 12:05 AM |
| 1 | Do you ACTUALLY want a woman to “settle” for you?Ok so your response to what I said is “no, you’re wrong.” I’m not sure where you’re coming from on it/what the basis of these “rigid standards” is/where and how you’re seeing them so it’s difficult to continue the discussion. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/01/21 11:51 PM |
| 1 | Do you ACTUALLY want a woman to “settle” for you?I can’t recall any fiction where the female protagonist had to go by though any hardship Well part of the problem is that until the late 1800s there were few if any books with female protagonists at all, but also that’s an absurd thing to say. I could give you a reading list if you’re interested. most men in media are models or genetically gifted Most women in media are also this, if anything more so. Yea, media gives all of us (men and women) unrealistic beauty standards and it’s not great, and… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/01/21 11:46 PM |
| 1 | Do you ACTUALLY want a woman to “settle” for you?Yeah, every person in a relationship (male of female) should realize their partner isn’t perfect: hopefully should see that before they even begin the relationship. It’s not about whether or not someone is perfect, it’s about whether or not the ways in which the person isn’t perfect you can accept/work with. That’s what people assess when they decide to date each other. less attractive women should do the same for the men that are actually in their league In what way are they not? I used to work… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/01/21 11:32 PM |
| 1 | Men face real issues that have nothing to do sex. It's insulting to men to suggest sex is the ultimate solution.I really don’t see THAT many people on /r feminism man-hating. I just went over there to check, scrolled down a ways and saw not one post that looked vitriolic or hateful towards men. Is it there? Sure there are some assholes and idiots because anyone can join and post. On any given Reddit sub that exists, and people (perhaps you’re one) who don’t really know the movement are exposed to them because they tend to be loud and angry and then make them the face of a movement in their mind. Definitel… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/01/21 11:05 PM |
| 1 | Do you ACTUALLY want a woman to “settle” for you?Resenting them for what? The fact that they settled? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/01/21 10:51 PM |
| 3 | Do you ACTUALLY want a woman to “settle” for you?I don’t think you realize that most women do exactly the same. What women mean by “don’t settle” is don’t stay in a relationship or get in a relationship out of desperation/loneliness. Don’t be with someone who doesn’t meet your standards or needs, which yes, can and do change, but if you’re not into someone, or if they don’t treat you the way you want to be treated, or don’t make you feel the way you want a partner to make you feel, you have no obligation to stay. There’s no universal “standard… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/01/21 07:37 PM |
| 2 | Its deeply unfair to men when women recklessly fuck guys who don’t like them that much over guys who do. Women who behave this way which is nearly all of them honestly deserve a decent guy. I’m not dating a non-virgin for this reason. U can fuck the guy u deserve for marriage or ur a hoe 🤷♂️.You’re not right or wrong you’re not really saying anything. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/01/21 07:27 PM |
| 1 | Its deeply unfair to men when women recklessly fuck guys who don’t like them that much over guys who do. Women who behave this way which is nearly all of them honestly deserve a decent guy. I’m not dating a non-virgin for this reason. U can fuck the guy u deserve for marriage or ur a hoe 🤷♂️.Ok bud. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/01/21 07:23 PM |
| 1 | Men face real issues that have nothing to do sex. It's insulting to men to suggest sex is the ultimate solution.it’s just concerning that this is the norm of even prominent feminists. Which “prominent feminists” exactly? I’m just curious because I haven’t noticed that at all in my own exploration of the movement. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/01/21 07:19 PM |
| 1 | Men face real issues that have nothing to do sex. It's insulting to men to suggest sex is the ultimate solution.I’m not no true Scotsmen-ing anyone. Look up “feminist theory” read any amount of actual literature, or even the freaking Wikipedia article. You’ll find nothing like that. Sure there are multiple interpretations, but I’m telling you what most of the feminist community thinks of those interpretations. Any philosophy/movement has its outliers and weirdos who like to get loud and use good ideology for their own extremist ends/means. And they’re no “manifesto” but there is an actual definition of “f… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/01/21 07:15 PM |
| 1 | Its deeply unfair to men when women recklessly fuck guys who don’t like them that much over guys who do. Women who behave this way which is nearly all of them honestly deserve a decent guy. I’m not dating a non-virgin for this reason. U can fuck the guy u deserve for marriage or ur a hoe 🤷♂️.I don’t disagree, that’s the point. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/01/21 07:07 PM |
| 0 | Do you ACTUALLY want a woman to “settle” for you?It’s not really derailing anything, it’s not really affecting my post at all. Anyway, have a lovely day. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/01/21 07:06 PM |
| 0 | Do you ACTUALLY want a woman to “settle” for you?Hah, but you’re still spending your time and energy commenting on it for some reasons? Weird flex bro. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/01/21 06:46 PM |
| 1 | Men face real issues that have nothing to do sex. It's insulting to men to suggest sex is the ultimate solution.What I’m saying is the “feminist movement” DOESN’T defend those sentiments. Those sentiments come from people who call themselves feminists but don’t actually understand it at all and are probably reacting to pain or past trauma/trying to make a political ideology an excuse for their violence and anger. Real feminists don’t respect or validate those people. I’m not disputing there’s a ton of them on Reddit, but that’s not what feminism is. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/01/21 06:45 PM |
| 1 | Do you ACTUALLY want a woman to “settle” for you?So from your perspective, what is the “female concept of settling?” Maybe what I think of that word meaning is different from what you’re talking about. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/01/21 06:42 PM |
| 2 | Its deeply unfair to men when women recklessly fuck guys who don’t like them that much over guys who do. Women who behave this way which is nearly all of them honestly deserve a decent guy. I’m not dating a non-virgin for this reason. U can fuck the guy u deserve for marriage or ur a hoe 🤷♂️.I’m not sure I really understand what you’re trying to say in that comment. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/01/21 06:41 PM |
| 1 | Do you ACTUALLY want a woman to “settle” for you?I don’t think teens not continuing to wait for celebrities is about settling, it’s about realizing those celebrities aren’t people they know and learning that fawning over a fake idea of a person is stupid. Who even knows if you’d like Brad Pitt (or whoever) in real life you’ve never met him. He’s a fantasy in your brain. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/01/21 06:39 PM |
| 2 | Do you ACTUALLY want a woman to “settle” for you?Yeah, exactly, and my question is why should anyone want to be with someone who isn’t legitimately attracted to them? Seems like women should keep their standards and be honest about them, men should do the same in the reverse direction and find women whose standards they meet/who meet there’s. That’s how to be happy long term no? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/01/21 06:37 PM |
| 2 | Do you ACTUALLY want a woman to “settle” for you?Good for you! That’s what I’m saying! Women not “settling” is just a weird thing to get frustrated about... | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/01/21 06:29 PM |
| 1 | Do you ACTUALLY want a woman to “settle” for you?You really look around and think women only date the male equivalent of super models? And a lot of men do prefer beautiful women, beautiful women do have an easier time getting male attention overall. If a guy picks someone else over me I don’t take it personally, I don’t find it frustrating: I don’t want to be with someone or date someone who prefers someone else, or who sees me as in whatever way not up to the standards of what he wants. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/01/21 06:25 PM |
| 1 | Do you ACTUALLY want a woman to “settle” for you?What I’m asking is: why would you want a woman who doesn’t want you for any reason, is the concept that maybe if she’d just “settle” you’d show her what she was missing out on and she’d fall in love with you? Plus some women want ons at times in their life same as some men. Not all women are constantly seeking serious connections/marriage 100% of the time. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/01/21 05:10 PM |
| 2 | Do you ACTUALLY want a woman to “settle” for you?You care just enough to comment about how little you care instead of just ignoring the post. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/01/21 05:07 PM |
| 1 | Women put WAY more negative scrutiny on the penis than do men on the vaginaHah, yes I care so deeply about your opinion on my debating skills how will I ever recover from this insult? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/01/21 05:07 PM |
| 6 | Do you ACTUALLY want a woman to “settle” for you?Some women don’t know what they want, some men don’t know what they want. I’d even go as far as to say most people don’t know what they want and that’s why so many relationships fail and dating is hard. What makes “women” happy isn’t universal and isn’t for you to say. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/01/21 05:05 PM |
| 1 | Women put WAY more negative scrutiny on the penis than do men on the vaginaI wasn’t gaslighting. If the answer is “my ex did it” the answer is “I had a bad experience.” That’s not something “women do” that’s something A woman did to him and is terrible but the point it’s that’s NOT normal behavior and probably is not a large number. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/01/21 05:01 PM |
| 12 | Women don't understand that you still need a good personality in order to keep a high quality man aroundMen want “crazy women” the same way women want “bad boys.” It’s all a part of people confusing love with dependency or caregiving. Usually that attraction is a result of childhood trauma or parental modeling. Most people of both genders get over it and learn better once they’ve actually had to be trapped in a relationship with someone mentally ill. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/01/21 04:59 PM |
| 2 | Women don't understand that you still need a good personality in order to keep a high quality man aroundI’m a woman and I agree, personality is what most people from any gender are ultimately attracted to long-term. I don’t think women “don’t think” this at all and I’d be interested to know what experiences made you believe otherwise. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/01/21 04:54 PM |
| 1 | CMV: Ladies, the only reason you are single is: A - You're delusional about your mate value or B - You're insufferableOr they just haven’t met anyone they like enough to date yet and have a full enough life and good enough friends outside their dating life that they’re not desperate enough to settle. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/01/21 04:44 PM |
| 1 | Post nut clarity is real and 90% of pumps and dumps were not premeditated.I agree, and same for women (though I guess the “nut” part is more metaphorical). Sex is a part of getting to know someone and understanding how you fit with them. Usually you don’t mean to hit and quit and don’t realize you want to “quit” until after. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/01/21 04:41 PM |
| 1 | Boy, women do love their "Don't settle" motto. Imagine men had the same mindset. Most women would be virgins.I don’t think you understand what women mean when they say “don’t settle.” You think it’s about someone being magazine perfect. It’s not, it’s about understanding what you’re own standards/priorities are and not giving them up due to guilt or loneliness. I think men SHOULD adopt the same motto. If people didn’t settle on either side relationships would be more successful/happier across the board. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/01/21 04:39 PM |
| 3 | Its deeply unfair to men when women recklessly fuck guys who don’t like them that much over guys who do. Women who behave this way which is nearly all of them honestly deserve a decent guy. I’m not dating a non-virgin for this reason. U can fuck the guy u deserve for marriage or ur a hoe 🤷♂️.Good think women don’t decide who to fuck based on what’s “fair to men.” Also do you assume every non-virgin is promiscuous? You wouldn’t date someone whose had a relationship before you? I don’t know how old you are but good luck if you’re over 25 or so dude. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/01/21 04:31 PM |
| 1 | Currently working as an escort because I didn't get into second year university, feeling lost with lifeCan you re apply next year? I’m not sure what country you’re in and how it works there. I did sex work to pay for school because I live in the US where our education system is broken and unless you’re rich it’s not about getting in it’s about money, but the point is for whatever reason I did sex work too at your age. It’s not the end of the world, and guys here are going to make you feel like it’s going to destroy your life, psyche, and dating prospects. It won’t, but all I can say is save the m… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/01/21 04:28 PM |
| 9 | Are guys really not attracted to women over 30?People who think 30 is old are usually in their early 20s and shouldn’t be dating 30-somethings anyway. Men in their 30s who won’t date women over 30 are usually too immature for women in their 30s to have time for anyway. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/01/21 04:19 PM |
| 1 | Are guys really not attracted to women over 30?How old are you? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/01/21 04:17 PM |
| 0 | "I'm Non-Monogamous"Should I make a collage of overweight 5’ tall neck-beards who don’t leave the house and title it “You’ll never get this dick, you’re not a virgin” to represent men who join PPD? This is homophobic, mean, and not funny. Get a life dude. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/01/21 04:15 PM |
| 3 | Men face real issues that have nothing to do sex. It's insulting to men to suggest sex is the ultimate solution.I don’t think the concept that men just need to “nut” to solve all their problems is a tenet of feminism at all. Feminism isn’t about individual men, it’s about fighting the institutions in society that give men intrinsic power over women. “Feminists” who think the movement is about hating, belittling, or dehumanizing men and say things like “that guy just needs to get laid” are not real feminists. They misunderstand what it’s about, and most real feminists don’t respect them/think they actually… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/01/21 04:02 PM |
| 1 | Women put WAY more negative scrutiny on the penis than do men on the vaginaOkay now you’re just doing the defensive “I didn’t do that, YOU did it” thing and that’s just juvenile. I’m not having a personal argument with you, I’m debating. Reddit not about winning some argument, it’s about seeing and sharing viewpoints. I’m just gonna leave this hear because it seems like you’re starting to take it personally and get actually angry. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/01/21 03:55 PM |
| 0 | Women put WAY more negative scrutiny on the penis than do men on the vaginaI’ve never heard anyone use the term “small dick energy.” If someone did I’m sure it would not be a positive trait but I’m also sure it wouldn’t be referring to a persons literal penis size. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/01/21 03:52 PM |
| 2 | Women put WAY more negative scrutiny on the penis than do men on the vaginaIt sounds like you’ve gotten some bad responses from some women who fixate on penis size and that sucks. I’m really sorry that happened to you, and I hope you can see/believe that’s not everyone. I honestly don’t know what would provoke a woman to belittle someone they don’t even know/haven’t slept with about their sexual performance/body on the internet. Sounds super shitty. I hope you realize that’s not all women, the internet is a dark place where some people come to take out their frustratio… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/01/21 03:49 PM |
| 0 | Women put WAY more negative scrutiny on the penis than do men on the vaginaThey didn’t Intentionally, but dick size has been a way men prove/validate their manliness to each other for centuries. Read old literature/plays/even historical documents and letters. You’ll see reference to it, think women centuries ago were allowed to speak up about being displeased with their husbands dicks? Definitely not allowed. They weren’t even allowed to sleep with or see the dicks of men they weren’t married to (at least in western cultures) so how would they even know? I guess maybe … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/01/21 12:03 AM |
| 0 | Women put WAY more negative scrutiny on the penis than do men on the vaginaTotally within your rights to do. All power to ya, my point is there are ways around it and sex doesn’t have to be phallocentric to be good. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/01/21 12:01 AM |
| 1 | Women put WAY more negative scrutiny on the penis than do men on the vaginaYeah, I don’t understand how this is counter my point? It happens all the time, even before seeing a person naked now that people meet online and don’t meet the standards their photos/profile info portrayed. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/01/21 03:19 PM |
| 1 | Women put WAY more negative scrutiny on the penis than do men on the vaginaYeah I edited because I responded to someone who made that comparison, and then you responded to my response and I thought you were the same person. It seems like we actually agree you just saw what I wrote out of context. And yes language forwards those beliefs, I just think spending time on it is attacking a symptom when we should attack a cause, and even though it feeds in it’s STILL not literal. If a guy wants to talk about “little vagina energy” I’m all for it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/12/20 06:08 PM |
| 1 | Women put WAY more negative scrutiny on the penis than do men on the vaginaDude. It’s a figure of speech. When you say someone is “a sweetheart” do you think they’re a circulatory organ covered in sugar? “Big dick energy” is funny slang people started using more in the last couple years because it was in a Lizzo song and people liked the concept. But actually the fact a bunch of guys think that’s ACTUALLY what girls are talking about when they say “bde” is kind of funny. Like we’re all just running around cruisin for giant schlong and talking about it all the time. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/12/20 06:04 PM |
| 1 | Women put WAY more negative scrutiny on the penis than do men on the vaginaIt’s literally slang for “confidence and self-assuredness.” Not saying some women also don’t want well endowed men, but that’s not what they mean when they say that. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/12/20 06:02 PM |
| 1 | Women put WAY more negative scrutiny on the penis than do men on the vaginaI’ve stated my point many times, you isolated one sentence and responded to it: my point is and always has been that men being scrutinized negatively about the size of their dicks isn’t something that comes from women, it comes from society as a whole and is actually a cultural occurrence that started with men. My secondary point is that getting defensive about how women judge your penis and using a comparative tone to do that makes it sounds like you’re saying “look men have it way harder (whic… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/12/20 05:57 PM |
| 1 | Women put WAY more negative scrutiny on the penis than do men on the vaginaI think it’s the opposite, the toxic behaviors create the language, which in itself is honestly pretty harmless. I feel that way about words that have some derogatory connotation to women as well: “pussy,” “bitch,” etc... as long as they’re not use to directly belittle a woman in anger I think language policing is annoying for things that aren’t direct hate speeche/slurs. But again I think that’s another conversation. What you said that I initially responded to was “when a women says she’s looki… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/12/20 05:44 PM |
| 1 | Women put WAY more negative scrutiny on the penis than do men on the vaginaThe “get over it” was in response to it being a comparison and something driven by women. It’s not, like you said, it’s society. Women are negatively scrutinized in exactly the same way about other physical attributes, just not that one. Sucks for everyone. It’s ok to be insecure, my point was it’s not something women are doing to you, or are more guilty of than anyone else. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/12/20 05:36 PM |
| 1 | Women put WAY more negative scrutiny on the penis than do men on the vaginaYeah I think it’s ABSOLUTELY the case that society judges dicks way more than vaginas. 100% | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/12/20 05:28 PM |
| 2 | Women put WAY more negative scrutiny on the penis than do men on the vaginaThis conversation is circular. It’s language. No one is arguing against the fact that big dicks are associated with masculinity and confidence in society, that’s all the word choice there is reflecting and that’s obviously true. Same way calling a guy a “dick” is referring to him being aggressive/arrogant, not that he is a literal walking penis. Saying he has “pussy for balls” means he’s weak, it doesn’t mean he literally has a vagina where his balls would be. It’s metaphors. BDE is the same. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/12/20 05:25 PM |
| 2 | Women put WAY more negative scrutiny on the penis than do men on the vaginaYeah it’s dicks in general, but again, not many jokes about “pussies in general.” I do think it’s actually attractive when men do joke about their own dicks, I think it shows confidence and security. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/12/20 05:20 PM |
| 4 | Society does not and will never care about incels and TRPers "opting-out"Yeah it’s like people who don’t vote and think they’re “making a statement.” You’re not, you’re just making your already invisible self more invisible. Being “incel” is just a way for people who don’t know how to get laid to feel like it’s a choice to “opt out.” It’s like saying “you can’t fire me I quit.” | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/12/20 05:19 PM |
| 1 | Women put WAY more negative scrutiny on the penis than do men on the vaginaI think honestly that a lot of women would not notice the difference between a 6 and 7 inch dick. Extremes are noticeable (if I guy is really really small, really really big, really thick or really thin). But it’s not like princess and the peepee. I’m sure a guy would notice if a woman were exceptionally tight or exceptionally loose. It’s also evolutionary that there’s more difference between male genitals than female genitals in primates that mate monogamously as humans do (no studies I know of… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/12/20 05:14 PM |
| 2 | Women put WAY more negative scrutiny on the penis than do men on the vaginaexcept if I had a big dick I’d have societal backing Well that’s absolutely true, but I don’t think that’s about specifically women speaking negatively. I think women feeling comfortable criticizing men’s dicks comes from the fact that male culture equates dick size with manliness and “bragging rights” and always has, men set that tone, and make it okay to do. Women engage in it because it’s normalized by men. Historically do you think women were allowed to say shit about their husbands penises?… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/12/20 05:08 PM |
| 4 | Women put WAY more negative scrutiny on the penis than do men on the vaginaThey’re hilarious, you’re right! But I think even that is cultural, we can appreciate the silliness of willies BECAUSE we’re allowed to talk about them. Do the women at work joke about their pussies with men in the office, or just with other women? If it’s mixed company I would say you’re in a RARE situation. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/12/20 05:04 PM |
| 3 | Women put WAY more negative scrutiny on the penis than do men on the vaginaWell if the comparison is a micro penis I wouldn’t just be “small breasts” it would be flat chested (a genetic outlier). I’d argue that really flat chested women have a pretty hard time. A lot of men when they say they prefer “small breasts” actually mean “average breasts.” US B Cup or small C, but movies/magazines/porn make average boobs seem small so men refer to them as “small boobs.” Same with dicks, average dick size is like 5-6 inches in the US but a lot of women consider that “small.” I d… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/12/20 04:58 PM |
| 2 | Women put WAY more negative scrutiny on the penis than do men on the vaginaYes, if you want to talk about all of the phrases in the world that involve problematic/objectifying language you’re right and that’s a separate discussion—but when women talk about “big dick energy” the trait they’re referring to as “hot” and seeking is confidence, not actual dick size. That’s all I’m saying. That’s why it’s “big dick energy” not just “big dick” | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/12/20 04:46 PM |
| 2 | Women put WAY more negative scrutiny on the penis than do men on the vaginaThe title of the post is “women put way more negative scrutiny on penises than men do on vaginas.” Direct comparison of what “women” do vs what “men” do. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/12/20 04:43 PM |
| 1 | Women put WAY more negative scrutiny on the penis than do men on the vaginaYeah she shouldn’t be cruel that’s dumb. I didn’t look at her past posts I figured by “cruel” she just meant, I don’t know, dumping people or maybe joking with her friends. Assholes exist in the world. And yeah some people might not be sexually compatible with you, but that would be true if you had a bigger dick too.They shouldn’t be mean about it though. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/12/20 04:42 PM |
| 2 | Women put WAY more negative scrutiny on the penis than do men on the vaginaI’m not saying she’s asking. I’m saying do it. That’s real “big dick energy:” owning the fact that you don’t need a huge penis to please a woman in bed and finding other ways to do it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/12/20 04:18 PM |
| 7 | Women put WAY more negative scrutiny on the penis than do men on the vaginaI just think he’s being whiny. I think it’s absolutely legitimate to be insecure and that’s okay, but blaming women for it and making it a comparison is bullshit. And yes, the title of the post made it a comparison, so I approached it as such. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/12/20 04:15 PM |
| 7 | Women put WAY more negative scrutiny on the penis than do men on the vaginaSomeone doesn’t have to have a big dick to have big dick energy. BDE is confidence, like you said. You can have it even if you’re not packing much. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/12/20 04:10 PM |
| 1 | Is it fair to say most women wouldn't have swiped right on or hooked up with their husbands?Very very true. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/12/20 03:58 PM |
| 1 | Women put WAY more negative scrutiny on the penis than do men on the vaginaall those things can be easily changed not really, you can change some things (working out etc..) a little but unless you want extensive plastic surgery you really can’t much. You could also buy a vibrator, get good at oral sex/hand stuff, do lots of things that would make your small dick not matter. I think you feel bad about something about yourself and are taking it out on women rather than learning to deal with your own insecurities. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/12/20 03:56 PM |
| 1 | Is it fair to say most women wouldn't have swiped right on or hooked up with their husbands?Yes, very much so. He also smells great and has a sexy voice. My point is who someone is in person makes them more physically attractive than they will look in a picture, or can make him less physically attractive (as with said “chads”). It’s all connected. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/12/20 03:50 PM |
| 1 | Women put WAY more negative scrutiny on the penis than do men on the vaginaSexual incompatibility is absolutely a reason and it’s not always about dick size. Also if you have a small dick and your lady wants more be a man and buy her a vibrator/use it with her. Amiright? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/12/20 03:49 PM |
| 1 | Women put WAY more negative scrutiny on the penis than do men on the vaginaIf all these women are ending relationships because of small dicks my question would be why did they get in those relationships to begin with? I’d assume they’d seen the dicks before they became boyfriend/girlfriend? Weird. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/12/20 03:47 PM |
| 6 | Women put WAY more negative scrutiny on the penis than do men on the vagina“Big dick energy” doesn’t mean actual dick size dude. It’s a personality. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/12/20 03:45 PM |
| 4 | Women put WAY more negative scrutiny on the penis than do men on the vaginaaccept weight can change First of all: “except” Second of all: some people have a really hard time losing or gaining weight genetically, it CAN change but it’s not so easy as people make it sound. Third of all: I think the way penis size is scrutinized is a closer analogy to women’s breast size than her weight. It’s an attribute you’re born with, that’s given weight in terms of sexual attractiveness. Women with bigger boobs are seen as more feminine and “womanly” than women with small boobs. Not… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/12/20 03:43 PM |
| 6 | Women put WAY more negative scrutiny on the penis than do men on the vaginaDo you have physical preferences about women you date that would be “dealbreakers?” Do you consider it “causing pain” if you decide not to keep seeing someone because she doesn’t meet your physical standards? I don’t think this person was saying she shamed people’s dicks to their face, just that she likes big dicks and so probably won’t date someone who doesn’t have one. I personally think sex is about way more than dick size. If someone is average or below average size but gives good head/makes… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/12/20 03:38 PM |
| 2 | Women put WAY more negative scrutiny on the penis than do men on the vaginaas long as it doesn’t smell like sushi and is without hair You literally just shamed vaginas. Also I’ve been with quite a few guys who love bush. It’s an opinion, don’t shame bush, bush is cool. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/12/20 03:35 PM |
| 4 | Women put WAY more negative scrutiny on the penis than do men on the vaginaHow many women have actually looked at you and shamed your penis? I honestly think dudes do it to each other more than women do it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/12/20 03:32 PM |
| 9 | Women put WAY more negative scrutiny on the penis than do men on the vaginaThe thing is every other aspect and every inch of a woman’s body is scrutinized in sex EXCEPT her genitalia (her breasts, her stomach, her butt, is she making enough noise? Too much noise? literally everything). Men have one thing to feel insecure about: their dicks. I hate to say it but I kinda just wanna tell you to get over it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/12/20 03:30 PM |
| 38 | Women put WAY more negative scrutiny on the penis than do men on the vaginaI think the vagina is also just stigmatized in general. We’re not supposed to talk about vaginas at all. It’s “dirty” to talk about a vagina because they’re “gross.” Men are supposed to be proud of their dicks, jokes about dicks are funny, people draw pictures of dicks on things as a joke. If I were to act about my vagina the way guys act about their dicks on a daily basis, it would be considered socially unacceptable and “nasty.” | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/12/20 03:27 PM |
| 2 | Women put WAY more negative scrutiny on the penis than do men on the vaginaI think the “stereotype” is that when women are criticized for not being “arousing” it’s usually more about their physical appearance/body than sexual performance. I think it has to do with the obsession with virginity. Most of the me. I’ve seen here are obsessed with chastity(low “n-count”). If a girl is “chaste” can you expect her to be skilled? Probably not. It’s a different set of standards. If she is “skilled” there’s probably an assumption that she’s promiscuous or has been promiscuous. Th… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/12/20 03:20 PM |
| 3 | Are men able to describe the behaviors they're exhibiting when they say "being an asshole" worked for them when attracting women?Yeah, arguably incels can be some of the biggest assholes around as their whole issue is that they don’t attract women. I think what guys think of when they hear “women like assholes” is this concept that women like men who are/seem a little unavailable or potentially “selfish.” The truth is though, that someone appearing “unavailable” or “selfish” can be attractive because it might not be someone being intentionally neglectful, it might just be someone who has a very full life of his own separa… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/12/20 12:48 AM |
| 1 | Women Should Be Expected To Be "Fuckzoned" When They Have A Promiscuous PastSaying someone “would” and someone actively “wants to” is different. There’s lots of people I probably “would” sleep with maybe under the right circumstances if I was desperate enough, doesn’t mean I ever will or really want to or care at all if it never happens. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/12/20 12:34 AM |
| 1 | Is it fair to say most women wouldn't have swiped right on or hooked up with their husbands?I’m gonna go ahead and say job tired is normal life tired-first couple years of child rearing is a totally different level and in a lot of families the woman is left with more child-rearing responsibilities, and many women work on top of it all once their maternity leave ends. That’s not even getting at the physical stress on the woman’s body of recovering from childbirth, lactating, etc... totally different thing. Did the 60% statistics cover women’s interest in sex once the kids are a little o… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/12/20 12:20 AM |
| 1 | Women Should Be Expected To Be "Fuckzoned" When They Have A Promiscuous PastYep. No one owes anyone friendship, no one owes anyone sex. Past has nothing to do with either. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/12/20 11:21 PM |
| 2 | Men are approaching way less than people here thinkIf you’re staring and a women isn’t making eye contact back, then yeah don’t say hi and stop staring. It’s a little creepy if you don’t. It shows you’re not paying attention to her and not taking into account whether she likes what’s happening, it’s all about you and your enjoyment of her body. If you’re like that with flirting, we assume you’ll be like that physically: we assume it would translates to being pushy/non consensual in sexual situations if we let it get there. It’s scary. Whether or… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/12/20 11:20 PM |
| 3 | Men are approaching way less than people here thinkAgain, if you’ve been given no indication via body language a woman wants to be talked to, it’s a little creepy to talk to her. It’s hard for men to understand why sometimes, but imagine being a woman: you walk around constantly looked at as a sexual object by men you may or may not want sex with, many of whom are larger and stronger than you are, and most of whom misconceive “friendliness” as an invitation to sex. It can be kind of scary, and a lot of women are on guard about not “putting out s… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/12/20 11:16 PM |
| 3 | Men are approaching way less than people here thinkIn my experience it actually doesn’t. Hot guys can be total creeps too. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/12/20 11:04 PM |
| -6 | Men are approaching way less than people here thinkPeople are only creeps approaching if they do it in a creepy way, or if they do it without a reason. Read the room. It’s creepy to approach a woman just because you see her and think she’s hot, if she’s given no indication she even notices you. When I think of guys “approaching” in a non creepy way, it’s usually less of an “approach” and more a flirtation and eventual conversation starting on its own, you can tell when someone wants to talk to you: is she making eye contact? Is she smiling at yo… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/12/20 08:02 PM |
| 1 | Women Should Be Expected To Be "Fuckzoned" When They Have A Promiscuous PastThen there shouldn’t be a problem, if they don’t want sex they won’t hang out with you. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/12/20 07:35 PM |
| 4 | Women Should Be Expected To Be "Fuckzoned" When They Have A Promiscuous Pastonly desperate men can’t have female friends they don’t wanna fuck Yep, absolutely agree. Some of my best friends are straight guys. I officiated one of their weddings recently, I love his wife—she’s great, and I knew him before they met/became friends with her through him. He was always successful with women and got dates where he wanted, he wasn’t interested in me romantically and I wasn’t interested in him. He wasn’t desperate so he never got to that sexually frustrated place of wanting to sl… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/12/20 06:52 PM |
| 1 | Women Should Be Expected To Be "Fuckzoned" When They Have A Promiscuous PastI’ve always had close male friends, I have 4 brothers and get along well with guys socially. I have close female friends too, but I’ve met plenty of guys I like as people but don’t want to fuck. I try to be honest about it if it seems like there’s miscommunication and let them decide what they want. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/12/20 06:47 PM |
| 0 | Women Should Be Expected To Be "Fuckzoned" When They Have A Promiscuous PastOk, but don’t expect any woman who talks to you and has slept with a lot of guys wants to fuck you specifically. You’re trying to fuck you say, does that mean you want to fuck every woman you see on the street? PROBABLY NOT. Wouldnt it be weird if every one of them just assumed you’d fuck them because they all heard you’re a slut? Women who get around aren’t any different. If you’re not interested in friendship and you’re talking to a women you don’t know, be up front about that and let her deci… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/12/20 06:43 PM |
| 0 | If women don’t like nice guys or find them to be “boring”, does that mean it’s over for genuine nice guys?I think the idea that “women don’t like nice guys” is a misinterpretation. Women like interesting guys, and nice guys CAN be interesting, but if your only personality trait that shows is how “nice” you are you get categorized as a “nice guy” because that’s what sticks out about you. So lots of guys might be nice, but if they’re nice and funny they’re usually called “funny guys” not “nice guys.” A guy can be hot and nice but will probably be called a “hot guy” before a “nice guy,” nice and smart … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/12/20 05:30 PM |
| 0 | Is it fair to say most women wouldn't have swiped right on or hooked up with their husbands?The 35% bars is actually surprising to me. I’d guess mixed social groups/work place over bars. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/12/20 05:18 PM |
| 3 | Is it fair to say most women wouldn't have swiped right on or hooked up with their husbands?Yeah a lot of people are also just not photogenic. I’m not. I don’t think I look terrible in pictures but I NEVER look as good in them as in real life. I think it’s because I’ve always been super awkward in front of a camera since I was a kid and don’t know what to do with my face/hands for photos at all. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/12/20 05:16 PM |
| 1 | Is it fair to say most women wouldn't have swiped right on or hooked up with their husbands?Yeah exactly, because If you don’t want to fuck someone it’s really hard to start a relationship? Isnt it? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/12/20 05:14 PM |
| 1 | Is it fair to say most women wouldn't have swiped right on or hooked up with their husbands?Those stats always make me wonder if they’re actually not interested or if they’re just fucking exhausted all the time from raising a kid so they don’t have the time/energy for sex. One of a million reasons I don’t want one :) | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/12/20 05:13 PM |
| 2 | Is it fair to say most women wouldn't have swiped right on or hooked up with their husbands?It’s a misunderstanding of the human universal that many people if they’re still single as they get older lower their standards so they don’t have to be alone. Men do it too, no one wants to get old and die alone, and so a lot of people settle after awhile just to have companionship/end the loneliness. RP and incels like to make that into this huge gender role based self-victimization thing but it’s really no more complicated than that. When you’re lonely, stuff that never looked good starts to … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/12/20 05:11 PM |
| 0 | Is it fair to say most women wouldn't have swiped right on or hooked up with their husbands?I think you’re looking at this question the wrong way. Would I have swiped right on my fiancé if we’d met online? Probably not, but I had sex with him/dated him because he’s charismatic and funny and awesome and charming and my best friend and that makes him way hotter to me than any tinder “chad.” He’s also not rich so I guess he’s not “bb” really. Most of the dudes I swiped right on when I had tinder I met and found either boring, shitty, bland, socially inept, poor conversationalists, or not … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/12/20 04:58 PM |
| 1 | Red Pilled men of PPD: What kind of evidence would make you question your theory?Hah, okay, thanks for taking the time to let me know that wow. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/12/20 02:13 AM |
| 2 | Who are these women that aren't getting asked out?My guess is they may be women who are very busy and work in jobs of a type that doesn’t offer much in the way of dating prospects. I have two friends who never get asked out. Both are really beautiful, interesting, smart, and successful women. They work as teachers, meaning that most of their work colleagues are much older, married, and more female than male. They also have to wake up early for work most days so really only go out Friday/Saturday nights if at all and 10pm is late for them, and s… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/12/20 07:45 PM |
| 1 | Do women who don't get asked out exist?I know women who don’t get asked out, most of them are not social (don’t go out, don’t have many friends). Even some really beautiful women fall into this category. I think honestly that a lot of men who complain about not being asked out/getting dates are not for the same reason. To find people to date you need a social circle, or a workplace where you’d meet people. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/12/20 10:06 PM |
| 3 | Red Pilled men of PPD: What kind of evidence would make you question your theory?So by this logic, we should do away with all of western medicine: people with bad eyes shouldn’t get glasses. They were born “less fit” and we shouldn’t interfere because cave men with bad eyes would just die? We interfere with “nature” all the time. Do you own a car? Do you live in a heated house or apartment? Are you using the internet right now? Do you hunt for food or go to the grocery store and buy it? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/12/20 10:02 PM |
| 1 | Men seem capable of admitting negative traits of their sex. Are women?Cool, I’ll watch the rest of it later when I have more time. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/12/20 05:57 PM |
| 1 | Men seem capable of admitting negative traits of their sex. Are women?I didn’t watch the whole thing because it’s 30 minutes long, and I have stuff to do, but I did watch the beginning of it. I think she’s talking about something different than I was: She’s talking about situations in which you don’t have a choice of what role you take. The example she used about “staying in the house vs being free to walk around and risking violence, I like the house” isn’t really the same idea at all. What feminists are fighting for is the ability to make that choice: “do I WANT… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/12/20 05:26 PM |
| 3 | If you care about low n count or no n count, what are you doing to attract a person like that?I don’t, because I’ve had sex with a number of people so would never hypocritically judge someone I’m with for having done the same. Do virgins/women who have low counts? Maybe maybe not, I couldn’t say, but it’s absolutely the definition of hypocrisy to judge someone else for something you’ve done. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/12/20 04:48 PM |
| 1 | Men seem capable of admitting negative traits of their sex. Are women?Yes absolutely. Women are socialized to second guess themselves constantly, and be indirect. That socialization is a part of they cycle that creates “patriarchy” just as much as men being socialized the opposite way creates “patriarchy.” Everyone is involved in it, and everyone is at fault. The point of feminism, which is a point a lot of self described “feminists” misunderstand is to be re evaluating BOTH gender roles and fighting that socialization in themselves to try and be more clear about … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/12/20 08:15 PM |
| 1 | Research Paper claims: (1) Men tend to fall in love more readily than women; (2) women tend to fall out of love more readily than men. Seems to explain / describe hypergamy (and a few other dating phenomena).deciding to break up with your partner becuase of differences of interest is still a choice to fall out of love with them. I don’t think this is true. You’ve never broken up with someone despite still feeling “love” for them? I definitely have. Love isn’t doesn’t always come with compatibility, compatibility doesn’t always come with love. For a healthy strong relationship you need both love AND compatibility. Break ups might happen due to either, even in cases where the other is still there. I t… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/12/20 01:26 PM |
| 1 | Q4W: What’s your side of the story with the “women love assholes” thing?why do women always try to label men abusers in relationships even when there’s no abuse? I don’t think they actually do. I mean sure when a break up happens sometimes stuff gets said. Men will call their exes” crazy” even when they’re mentally stable, women sometimes call their exes “narcissistic” even when they’re not, because there are a lot of emotions flying around and those things are often not lies for attention, that’s how the person feels at the time. In terms of abuse, I think it comes… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/12/20 01:11 PM |
| 1 | Q4W: What’s your side of the story with the “women love assholes” thing?I don’t think I expected sympathy for anything, the question was “why do women go for bad boys.” I never said it was a good thing, but there is a psychological reason it happens, and I don’t think “bad boys” are always abusive, you can be a shit boyfriend and not be an abuser, which many of them are. As for what is/isnt sexy. I already discussed the difference in circumstances that make an incel vs “bad boy” in my last comment, and again incels are just whiney about being rejected a lot. That IS… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/12/20 05:37 AM |
| 1 | Men don't age like wine. They hit the wall at the same exact time women do.That’s exactly my point. You’re validating my point. Men are valued for their money and status, women are valued for for their looks. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/12/20 08:36 PM |
| 2 | Men don't age like wine. They hit the wall at the same exact time women do.It does, but the question was if there were people who were more attractive older than younger, obviously a subjective question to begin with. In my opinion yes there are and he is one. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/12/20 03:23 PM |
| 1 | Men don't age like wine. They hit the wall at the same exact time women do.I’m not saying he used to be ugly, I’m saying he was hotter in his 40s. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/12/20 02:45 PM |
| 3 | Research Paper claims: (1) Men tend to fall in love more readily than women; (2) women tend to fall out of love more readily than men. Seems to explain / describe hypergamy (and a few other dating phenomena).1This study is from the 70s. That doesn’t mean it’s wrong but it’s very old and done in context of the idea of what love and relationships constituted in the 70s. What is “love” (baby don’t hurt me...yeahI had to)? It seems like this study mostly just measures whether men or women are more likely to initiate break ups, and whether men or women are more aware of issues in a relationship. I don’t think I’ve ever heard a good definition of “love.” I don’t know how we could do science around it. May… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/12/20 07:13 AM |
| 1 | Q4W: What’s your side of the story with the “women love assholes” thing?Abusive relationships absolutely condition people to see pain as equivalent to love: look up the psychology of it, there’s a ton written on the subject. The abuse might be first hand, or might be what you’re used to seeing in childhood (we “learn” relationships from our parents. If people see abuse there , they can be conditioned to subconsciously feel like someone getting angry enough to abuse a person as being evidence that they care enough about that person to be angry). Second point: incels … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/12/20 07:02 AM |
| 1 | Men don't age like wine. They hit the wall at the same exact time women do.Uh, I don’t hear many people comparing bezos/trump to Brad Pitt, both are significantly richer and more powerful than Brad Pitt, despite that Brad Pitt is handsome, that’s the point. Also, we know what both looked like in their prime, neither was ever good looking. Sure people might not talk about them as sex symbols, but it doesn’t matter, they’re two of the most powerful people in the world, and both have hot wives, way out of their league. Hugh Hefner is dead but he was living high til the da… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/12/20 06:47 AM |
| 7 | If you care about low n count or no n count, what are you doing to attract a person like that?Thank you for sharing this. I am not a “low count” person but my first question when people are judgemental of women with high counts is “how many people have YOU slept with?” | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/12/20 07:50 PM |
| 3 | Women who live a promiscuous lifestyle before settling down are doing nothing wrong – *except* for adamantly believing that their promiscuity doesn't matter.What if she doesn’t lie about it, but also doesn’t feel like it matters? I don’t lie about the fact I was with a lot of other men before started dating my fiancé, I also don’t think it matters. He was with a lot of other women before he started dating me. We were friends before we were together so both knew this just by being around each other’s mutually kind of slutty behavior. What you’re saying is that lying matters, not promiscuity. That’s true. Lying about anything matters. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/12/20 01:12 PM |
| 1 | Men don't age like wine. They hit the wall at the same exact time women do.we don’t get to see too many ugly men that are more successful Uh, Donald Trump? Hugh Hefner? Jeff bezos? Noooottt exactly “lookers” | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/12/20 01:07 PM |
| 0 | Q4W: What’s your side of the story with the “women love assholes” thing?I disagree, but since this is just an opinion you’re stating without much to back it up it’s difficult to argue with. I’m not talking about empathy for men as a group, I’m saying women are socialized to thing showing empathy/emotional caring is a positive, men are socialized to be “strong, independent, and masculine.” It’s not about not HAVING it, it’s about the comfort level showing it based on who the world thinks you “should” be in your assigned gender role. If you don’t think women have empa… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/12/20 01:06 PM |
| 1 | Q4W: What’s your side of the story with the “women love assholes” thing?”you see the best people are victims of circumstance” Yeah I wasn’t saying all people who are “bad boys,” just that most bad boys are. Apart from the mentally ill, I don’t think many people are born wanting to hurt anyone. And by “victim of circumstance” I just mean who they are is a product of how they were raised/what they’ve been though/how they’ve handled it. I think that’s pretty universally true of people. I don’t know if I sympathize with women who look for drama/strife and get what they’… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/12/20 01:01 PM |
| 4 | Q4W: What’s your side of the story with the “women love assholes” thing?Like you, most of us, self included, went through that phase, usually in our late teens/early 20s but once you’ve actually been in a relationship with one or two “sexy bad boys” you grow up and grow out of it. Most of the women I know of my age (I’m 32 and most of my friend group is similar) follow the same trajectory. I think there are three forces at work: -stories we grow up with/media in which there’s always a misunderstood bad boy who is really just a victim of circumstance and has a “heart… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/12/20 01:48 PM |
| 1 | Men don't age like wine. They hit the wall at the same exact time women do.I’m not saying there aren’t successful unattractive women, or that men don’t have to be, all I’m saying is that according to society, “looking good” is a bigger deal maker/breaker for women than for men. You’ve really just said the same thing in response to my last four replies in different words and haven’t added much to your argument. This is becoming cyclical. Either you’re not understanding what I’m trying to say, or you’re just very certain you’re right and can’t really be argued with. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/12/20 10:01 AM |
| 1 | Men don't age like wine. They hit the wall at the same exact time women do.Yes that’s true, more attractive successful people are more successful than less attractive successful people. Less attractive successful men, though, are both more common and more successful than less attractive successful women. I know there have be sociological studies done on this but I’m forgetting by whom. I’m going to do a little research and post some things. Edited to add source: there are a few out there but I like how this one sets it up, and their sample size is almost 5000 which is … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/12/20 08:06 PM |
| 0 | Men don't age like wine. They hit the wall at the same exact time women do.It will affect both, but it’s easier for men to be both ugly and successful than it is for women, because for men, your looks matter but not as much as your accomplishments (financial standing/career) especially as you age. For women it’s the other way around, that’s why “spinster” and “old maid” are terms you don’t hear being used for men: because as a man, you’re allowed to be old and unmarried and even unattractive as long as you’re financially stable and successful in your professional life.… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/12/20 04:27 PM |
| 3 | What are your thoughts on PornHub recently removing most of it's content ?I think the issue with anonymous clips are that they’re unregulated. It sounds like they found out some of said clips involved people who weren’t of age or didn’t know they were being filmed and didn’t want their website to condone that which I actually respect. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/12/20 06:33 PM |
| 2 | Most of the unhealthy theories about dating here come from the simple fact that men outnumber women 4:1 on swipe apps.I agree about the ratio, but people on apps designed for dating are there to date, they’re asking to be approached, IG not so much. It’s creepy and weird when strangers message you on Instagram clearly trying to pick you up. But yeah, men I know who are successful in dating are social. Even if they’re not the most attractive, or richest, or smoothest talkers: they’re social. You can’t expect to meet someone sitting on your couch, even if dating apps kind of lead you to believe you can and give y… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/12/20 03:21 PM |
| 5 | What are your thoughts on PornHub recently removing most of it's content ?I think they’re just trying to crack down on people who are using their platform to abuse children/other people. That makes sense to me. There’s still plenty of porn being offered, just not unconsensual porn, or porn with people under 18 in it. I don’t think that has anything to do with feminism. If you’re asking “what about the guys who need to see teenagers getting raped for sexual release?” I don’t know that that’s a demographic we should be catering to. Just watch someone of age and being pa… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/12/20 01:06 PM |
| 2 | Q4Women: You find out that your boyfriend treated his ex better than you. What do you do?Yeah this. People in happy and fulfilled relationships don’t stalk their partners’ ex’s and compare. If that’s happening, it’s because you’re feeling uncomfortable with the relationship on some other level. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/12/20 01:01 PM |
| 2 | Q4Women: You find out that your boyfriend treated his ex better than you. What do you do?I’ve never been in this situation. I have been in the opposite situation where I found out someone I’m with treated girls before me badly, and that’s been difficult in a different way. In these situations I’ve had a conversation about it and if the answers are what I want them to be: that he was younger and learned from it and feels bad for treating his ex that way then I move on from it. If I was unhappy with the way I was being treated in a relationship and found out an ex had a better experie… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/12/20 12:59 PM |
| 1 | Most of the unhealthy theories about dating here come from the simple fact that men outnumber women 4:1 on swipe apps.Yes yes 100% yes. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/12/20 12:50 PM |
| 1 | Most of the unhealthy theories about dating here come from the simple fact that men outnumber women 4:1 on swipe apps.I think OPs point is that it’s an issue with OLD, including trying to use Instagram as a dating app, which a lot of people are not even there to do. As for being considered “creepy” for cold approach: you’re probably doing it in a creepy way. And as for men being increasingly “asocial,” well, there’s your problem right there. Make some friends. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/12/20 12:49 PM |
| 1 | Men don't age like wine. They hit the wall at the same exact time women do.I don’t know I think he has a weathered appeal he didn’t used to have. He used to be “cute” now he’s sexy. That said, I’m 32 and he’s probably old enough to be my dad at this point. I do think he’s attractive, and maybe more so than when he was younger, but if given the opportunity I likely wouldn’t sleep with someone that much older that me. Ok, maybe in that case I would but mostly for the story. Really, who wouldn’t do it for the story. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/12/20 10:22 AM |
| 1 | Men don't age like wine. They hit the wall at the same exact time women do.I wasn’t saying they didn’t. Of course they do, but you’re kidding yourself if you think they affect men’s lives the same way. It’s equivalent to the fact there are standards for women for success/financial stability too, but not reaching them doesn’t hurt you socially as badly if you’re a woman as if you’re a man most of the time (I do think that is BEGINNING to change in a lot of places but we are not nearly to the point that it has). One of the few things I actually agree with a lot of the me… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/12/20 10:17 AM |
| 2 | Men don't age like wine. They hit the wall at the same exact time women do.Hah! Only the immature ones. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/12/20 10:11 AM |
| 1 | Why not be a sex worker in this day and age?Uh, use protection, if your livelihood depends on being clean you’re probably going to be if anything more careful than casual sex-havers who don’t get paid. You don’t have to be a sex worker to get an STD, and again, not all sex work involves penetration for money. What sources tell you people who have had more sexual partners are less happy, and how do those sources measure/define “happiness?” | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/12/20 02:54 AM |
| 1 | Why not be a sex worker in this day and age?As someone who’s never done it, you’re talking a lot about how sex work makes people feel. (paraphrase) sex work is not work it takes no skills etc... Most service jobs don’t require credentials or professional skills. You can get a job working in sales, or at a restaurant with no prior experience, those jobs you’d call “work” no? Sex work does require skills, you’re a salesperson, it’s just that what’s being sold is something you’re uncomfortable with. You can’t call something girls can make th… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/12/20 01:09 AM |
| 1 | Why not be a sex worker in this day and age?Well, I have known many in real life, not just whatever you think someone is anonymously on Reddit and put together, and I think you’re seeing what you want to. I wasn’t talking about getting respect from men, or society, you implied that people who do sex work necessarily respect themselves. I disagree, and think you misunderstand the business significantly. My point is it’s work. People have all sorts of jobs that make them debase themselves or sacrifice their morals. Sex work is stigmatized b… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/12/20 12:27 AM |
| 4 | Genuinely curious if women can understand where men are coming fromI don’t think OP was talking about a specific man said woman wants to be in a relationship with, he/she was talking about a TYPE of man, and no I don’t think her having sex with whatever other men is punishing any specific one of that type. Think about it this way, let’s say a guy really likes blondes. He’s single and not dating anyone but he likes blondes. Is him being attracted to and sleeping with a brunette on any given night “punishing” all the blondes in the room (or all the blondes in the… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/12/20 10:26 PM |
| 3 | Genuinely curious if women can understand where men are coming fromYou and the person your sleeping with, which I talked about in that post if you read the whole thing, just not other men outside that one, unless you’re in a relationship and cheating I guess but that’s a specific scenario in which it involves one other additional person. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/12/20 09:16 PM |
| 1 | Why not be a sex worker in this day and age?Wow that was really a lot of typecasting. How many sex workers do you know? working at Macdonald’s is respectable Never said it wasn’t. Never said sex work wasn’t either. Also, in what way does a woman’s self-respect come from what a man finds “respectable?” | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/12/20 09:04 PM |
| 7 | Genuinely curious if women can understand where men are coming fromNo, it isn’t, it’s about who she wants to sleep with. If that’s not you, it’s not because she’s “punishing” you, she’s just not attracted to you. Do you sleep with people you’re not attracted to just so they don’t feel bad? If a woman you were not attracted to wanted to sleep with you, and you said no and slept with a different woman instead, even casually, would that have ANYTHING to do with woman #1s feelings? Should it? She might be hurt but you’re not “punishing” her you just don’t like her … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/12/20 08:58 PM |
| 1 | Why not be a sex worker in this day and age?”the reality is men AND women shame sex workers...” Yes they do, for different but related reasons which I think ALL are rooted in insecurity/fear/misunderstanding deep down, I was talking specifically about when men do. ”I can’t respect someone who doesn’t respect themselves” The concept that sex workers have no self respect or low self esteem is a stereotype. Some don’t, many do. I actually think that sex work teaches you a lot about establishing boundaries and self worth: it’s a job where you… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/12/20 05:25 PM |
| 28 | Genuinely curious if women can understand where men are coming fromI think it’s less misunderstanding and more just getting frustrated with the concept that our sex lives are about men not about ourselves, and that we should be living in such a way to accommodate men we have no interest in/don’t even know because what matters most is not offending them and making the world a more comfortable place for them to live in. When women have sex, unless it’s with you, it really isn’t ABOUT you and shouldn’t be. The best way to bridge the gap is to stop trying to make i… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/12/20 05:05 PM |
| 4 | Men don't age like wine. They hit the wall at the same exact time women do.My mom had a baby at 44. I’m 32 and people someone recently asked me if I would be old enough to vote in November and do I want to register. We’re talking generalities not any one person. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/12/20 02:31 AM |
| 3 | Men don't age like wine. They hit the wall at the same exact time women do.They’ve all had work done, it’s Hollywood. I don’t know if he looks better now but there was a period of time when he kept getting better looking. Iron man rdj>ally mcbeal era baby rdj any time. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/12/20 12:47 AM |
| 4 | Men don't age like wine. They hit the wall at the same exact time women do.Yes, and I do think men are less grossed out by “robbing the cradle” than women are, so they’re more likely to go after younger women than older women are to go after younger men. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/12/20 12:08 AM |
| 7 | Men don't age like wine. They hit the wall at the same exact time women do.My mom had me when she was 42 and I have a sister 2 years younger than me. It is true that almost all women stop being able to biologically bare children before 50, and most before 45. But, again, most men’s sex drives and sperm motility go way down around that age as well, and a lot of them start needing those little blue pills to get it up after awhile too. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/12/20 12:06 AM |
| 15 | Men don't age like wine. They hit the wall at the same exact time women do.They don’t get infertile but they do get impotent and significantly less fertile. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/12/20 12:02 AM |
| 2 | Men don't age like wine. They hit the wall at the same exact time women do.Most women in their 40s either no longer can have children, so are not desperately trying to have them. I’d argue that a lot of women still look really damn good in their 30s when they’re most “desperate” (in your words), and objectively so, so this “wall” argument doesn’t make a lot of sense to me, unless you’re saying women are less attractive in their 30s than 40s. Also, not all women want kids. Are you saying that women that don’t want kids stay attractive and women who do become less so? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/12/20 12:01 AM |
| 4 | Men don't age like wine. They hit the wall at the same exact time women do.Robert Downey Junior got better looking as he got older, but still hit a point where he started getting worse looking. Also Thandie Newton. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/12/20 11:55 PM |
| 14 | Men don't age like wine. They hit the wall at the same exact time women do.That’s because you’re 20-something. I’m 32 and I’m more attracted to men in their 30s than in their early 20s now, because men in their early 20s look like babies to me and I am not attracted to babies, that’s gross. I have a “young” face and have had a lot of opportunity to date 20 somethings who think I am in their age range, never been attracted to one. I also noticed as I got older that the celebrities I found attractive were older too. Believe me, it happens. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/12/20 11:50 PM |
| 5 | Men don't age like wine. They hit the wall at the same exact time women do.It’s all easy to fix now a days if you have the money for it. Skin care, plastic surgery, Botox. That’s not OP’s point. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/12/20 11:35 PM |
| 11 | Men don't age like wine. They hit the wall at the same exact time women do.Men in Hollywood like you referenced (and women in Hollywood) all get plastic surgery to stay young, too, and don’t represent normal aging. Men don’t age any better, it’s just that youth and beauty standards for women are much higher than for they are for men. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/12/20 11:31 PM |
| 1 | Why not be a sex worker in this day and age?yes if not toomany ONS... Ok, so what’s the difference between someone having a ONS, and someone having sex with someone one time and getting paid for it? Would you date someone who didn’t do sex work for a long period of time, but had sex with someone for money once? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/12/20 09:58 PM |
| 1 | Why not be a sex worker in this day and age?Ok, then explain to me what it is. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/12/20 09:54 PM |
| 1 | Why not be a sex worker in this day and age?I honestly think it is male insecurity in this case, check out some things other men have written in response to this post, things about not wanting a girl who’s fucked a lot of men. Why would this be an issue? Well, because they’re afraid they might not measure up, or be able to please someone who’s potentially had more sex with more people than they have. Someone being more experienced means you are less experienced, and some men can’t handle that. That’s what the obsession with virginity is a… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/12/20 09:38 PM |
| 1 | Why not be a sex worker in this day and age?What part? The male insecurity part? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/12/20 04:07 AM |
| 1 | Girls want a man who is... Well, simply not anxious and depressed.You are very not wrong. Our healthcare system is supremely fucked. I’m actually from Canada and have just lived here since I was a teenager/dual citizenship and the comparison is so stark. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/12/20 03:16 AM |
| 1 | Girls want a man who is... Well, simply not anxious and depressed.You had to talk about it on the applications though? I think it’s actually illegal to ask here apart from really specific types of work. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/12/20 02:47 AM |
| 0 | Girls want a man who is... Well, simply not anxious and depressed.Really? Wow it’s very different in the US, I guess unless you work in maybe some really specific types of jobs that would require psych. evaluation. How did they even know about it? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/12/20 02:37 AM |
| 1 | Girls want a man who is... Well, simply not anxious and depressed.Yep. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/12/20 01:52 AM |
| 4 | Girls want a man who is... Well, simply not anxious and depressed.I think women should do the same. Both use both this way and it’s wrong. Everyone go to therapy. Manage your shit if you’re gonna date. No matter what your gender. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/12/20 01:44 AM |
| 0 | Why not be a sex worker in this day and age?in fact, here you go. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/12/20 01:32 AM |
| 0 | Why not be a sex worker in this day and age?You need to look up the definition of “sex work” | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/12/20 01:31 AM |
| 0 | Why not be a sex worker in this day and age?“Sex work” isn’t just prostitution. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/12/20 01:25 AM |
| 1 | Why not be a sex worker in this day and age?That is absolutely also true. I guess there’s a middle ground and yeah, someone who is good at her job is good at her job. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/12/20 01:17 AM |
| 2 | Why not be a sex worker in this day and age?That’s true, but two girls of equal quality in terms of service: the younger one will get more attention and make more money usually. Mind you, I don’t consider 30 old, I’m mean once you hit 50+ you need to have something really special in terms of charisma to still be making too dollar. That said, there are people who are really turned on by older women too. Anything in the world, there’s someone turned on by it. Words to live by. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/12/20 01:00 AM |
| 1 | Why not be a sex worker in this day and age?I’m not arguing anything, I’m sharing my personal experience as someone who has actually done this thing that you have all these opinions about, and lived in a world of others who did it for a solid four years. I’m not saying it “does the body good.” I’m saying I’m a kid who grew up dirt poor and now has two degrees and a successful career I couldn’t have had if not for my time as a sex worker, my dating life hasn’t suffered, and my life as a whole is probably much better now than it would have … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/12/20 12:57 AM |
| 1 | Why not be a sex worker in this day and age?Most child molesters are not molesting children for money, and the difference is what they are doing is hurting children. In sex work, if you’re hurting anyone it’s really just potentially yourself depending on how mentally and physically strong you are. And yes, show me any big pharma exec and I will argue to the day I die or never done anything more reprehensible than he/she probably does on a daily basis for money. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/12/20 12:40 AM |
| 1 | Why not be a sex worker in this day and age?Well, people are different. I also imagine I date/have dated people who are accepting of it. I didn’t date much when I was actively working, both because it probably would have been hard for a lot of reasons, and because I honestly didn’t have time for a relationship between school and my various jobs anyway so I never tried. It being a former profession has not gotten in the way for me of people I actually want to be with. Unless she is a virgin, she has had other dicks no? You’d only have rela… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/12/20 12:28 AM |
| 2 | Why not be a sex worker in this day and age?How is you “banging someone just for sex” any different from someone banging someone just for money? At least I got to go to college because of it. And what you described (“vacant stares” etc...)is textbook compartmentalization, which is something you do get really good at if you work in the industry, and some people are better than others at keeping work at work. I feel that way about random hook ups, but what I learned from my time in the industry is that sex doesn’t create intimacy, but if th… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/12/20 11:49 PM |
| 1 | Who knows more about the casual sex behaviors of women, men or women?”you’re saying women aren’t adults?” No, I was saying that two people were in a situation not being adult. Either one of you could have made that call. “if 9/10 women act similarly etc etc... Like I said, 10 women is 10 women you attracted and matched with you on Tinder (or wherever). What you could say if you want to make a claim about that is “most of the women I’ve met on tinder did this” that would be appropriate and objective. It might very well have to do with the women you are likely to s… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/12/20 11:12 PM |
| 2 | Why not be a sex worker in this day and age?He knows, he’s known since before we dated. It doesn’t bother him. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/12/20 10:50 PM |
| 3 | Why not be a sex worker in this day and age?My close friends know, as does everyone I’ve ever dated seriously. I purposely never did anything that would be recorded/photographed/online in any way for that reason. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/12/20 10:46 PM |
| 1 | Why not be a sex worker in this day and age?That all makes sense, I would guess that women who marry young likely would not find their way into sex work because, first of all they already live in two income households presumably and so would have no need toX and secondly I know very few people who got into sex work for the first time while not single. I don’t find it’s had a negative effect on my dating life, or the dating lives of most of the friends I’ve had who used to be in the industry, but most people are single when they start. If … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/12/20 10:34 PM |
| 1 | Who knows more about the casual sex behaviors of women, men or women?Hah, I work in science, I spend most of my professional time thinking about objective and empirical evidence. Also pretty used to people thinking women can’t be objective enough to think scientifically and fuck that noise, it’s just not true. In interpersonal relationships there’s more to it than numbers though, and that “more” is very important, because people aren’t math problems. There’s a lot of grey area at play that can’t be quantified. There’s a reason biologists don’t touch questions lik… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/12/20 10:26 PM |
| 1 | Who knows more about the casual sex behaviors of women, men or women?Hahaha I’m not denying the existence, I’m just saying that specifically in talking about human behavior it’s reductive to boil it down to exclusively or even MOSTLY those types of circumstantial facts (and the facts you’re talking about ARE circumstantial even if objective). I’m in a monogamous relationship now, I rarely use condoms, I usually did when that was not the case, I think that’s right to do, I also know a number of people who don’t, and I hate to break it to ya but if a condom isn’t u… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/12/20 09:23 PM |
| 2 | Why not be a sex worker in this day and age?So many people do questionable things for money, and give up their morals in various ways, shapes, or forms in the process, sex workers are no different. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/12/20 09:21 PM |
| -1 | Why not be a sex worker in this day and age?I’m engaged. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/12/20 09:16 PM |
| 5 | Why not be a sex worker in this day and age?Sex work isn’t just fucking for money, and everyone’s line is different. I stripped, never fucked anyone, still could clear a couple grand in a weekend easy. Letting a few guys touch your butt feels a lot less gross when you’re holding 1000+ bucks cold hard cash at the end of the night. When I used to dance I really didn’t think much about taking my clothes of for money at all. If I dress provocatively and go out to a bar, random guys will gawk at me, why shouldn’t I make them pay me for it? I p… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/12/20 08:38 PM |
| 1 | Why not be a sex worker in this day and age?Hah, I’m a former sex worker. I’ve had zero problems. I don’t open with it on a first date, but if I want to get serious with someone I make sure they know about and accept it. No one ever hasn’t. It might just be that I date open minded people, or that in my present-day life I have my shit pretty well together, am educated, and work a well respected job, I don’t know, but I used to be scared it would be a “bad mark” on my person forever. Really never has been. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/12/20 08:31 PM |
| 3 | Why not be a sex worker in this day and age?You can be one at any age, but you will not make nearly as much money if you don’t at least look youthful. Not that this isn’t true in so many other jobs too. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/12/20 08:28 PM |
| 1 | Why not be a sex worker in this day and age?As a former sex worker who also worked in various other service jobs (restaurant industry), I can say that I saw just as much drinking and drug use as a bartender as as a stripper. I bet there’s also just as much in a lot of other types of high stress jobs: being a successful performer (actor/musician etc...), businessmen/ceos, lawyers...wherever there is money and stress, people will use their money to numb their stress with both legal and illegal drugs, it’s just stigmatized more when you’re i… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/12/20 08:27 PM |
| 1 | Why not be a sex worker in this day and age?I won’t say you made a mistake, I think if things worked out ok for you without doing it, why do it? I don’t know what your financial situation is now, or what your background is, but there’s a part of me that agrees. I stripped to put myself through college, never did any “heavier” sex work than that. I will say that it’s still professionally stigmatized, I definitely don’t have it on my resume, but really I haven’t experienced any negative effects from it in my life apart from having to be car… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/12/20 08:21 PM |
| 1 | Who knows more about the casual sex behaviors of women, men or women?I don’t mean “alpha vs beta,” I mean how she feels about you as a person and the situation at hand. And you can look at things as “objective facts,” and maybe they are objectively the case situationally, but when we’re talking about human nature and human behavior, chalking it up to objectivity and then calling that “what women are like” as a sex is extremely reductive. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/12/20 07:46 PM |
| 1 | Who knows more about the casual sex behaviors of women, men or women?That’s what I’m talking about too. You see that scenario from your own point of view, the woman sees it from hers. She has a whole story that lead up to that moment of her coming over and having sex with you without a condom that you probably don’t know. I’m not saying that’s always the case, but it often is. That one tiny slice of whatever hour of that woman’s life that you experienced doesn’t make you an expert on women and “what they’re like.” It makes you an expert on “what they seem like to… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/12/20 07:24 PM |
| 2 | Are women telling their truth when they say: “ I don’t care how much money a guy makes, as long as he can support himself “ ?Lots of things may have been true, the point is I couldn’t see continuing something with him because at the age I am, thinking about the future becomes a natural part of a relationship, and I could tell I’d be unhappy with that lifestyle. I don’t need or expect to be provided for, but I don’t like the idea of being the sole provider either. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/12/20 04:17 PM |
| 1 | Who knows more about the casual sex behaviors of women, men or women?Women talk to other women a lot. Really a lot, and we do so from a place of shared female experience. Friends are also pretty objective, what a woman says to someone she’s sleeping with, especially early on or casually, is going to be less open and honest than the way but they talk to their friends about the situation. Unless the men we’re talking about are really above average communicators (in my experience VERY few men are, especially outside of long term relationships) the experience men hav… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/12/20 03:44 PM |
| 1 | What exactly is pair bonding?So I’m a professor of Biology: In Biology the term “pair bonding” refers to partners in species who mate for life and rear offspring together with an extent of parental care. It’s evolutionarily beneficial in species (like humans) who have small litters and care for their children for long periods before said kids become independent, because the survival rates of the offspring increase due to the extended period of parental care. If survival rates of offspring go up, that’s a plus in terms of Da… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/12/20 03:32 PM |
| 2 | Are women telling their truth when they say: “ I don’t care how much money a guy makes, as long as he can support himself “ ?I think it depends on the woman. I mean it when I say it, but I also don’t want kids which I think is a big reason women seek financial stability. I also am financially self-sufficient enough that I can keep a decent lifestyle on my own even if I don’t have a boyfriend/husband. Women who are not financially stable, or want kids but couldn’t support them by themselves probably value a mans economic status more. I think what people mean by “supporting himself” depends on their own financial statio… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/12/20 03:11 PM |
| 1 | Ladies, what masculine qualities/male traits do you find attractive, and what are repulsive when it comes to dating & mating?Masculine traits I find attractive- Types of of old fashioned chivalry that isn’t financially-based: a man opening a door for me, or walking me to my car if it’s late to make sure I get there safely, giving me flowers (even cheap ones), I think is very charming. My first date with my fiancé we were driving and he put the visor down in the car for me because he noticed the sun was in my eyes. I was really impressed by that. Self-sufficiency: I don’t need a man to be rich, but I do need him to sup… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/12/20 02:59 PM |
| 1 | Does anyone actually love anyone for who they are?I can say with certainty I’ve never dated anyone I don’t love for who they are, but you don’t necessarily know someone “for who they are” on a first meeting. I think attractive traits are sort of a “foot in the door” situation, because not every person has the time or energy to get to know every single other person to see if their personalities mesh. Unfortunately, it isn’t feasible to give everyone who wants a chance a chance. Attractive traits: whether physical or “surface level” (sense of hum… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/12/20 02:20 PM |
| 3 | Young women are less likely to intend to use a condom with a more facially attractive male partner, and over 50% of non-virgin women report having intentionally employed a tactic (excluding other preventative birth control methods) to prevent/inhibit effective condom usageIt does feel better, it’s also irresponsible if you’re not in a monogamous relationship or regularly being STD tested. Yes, some women are irresponsible. Some men are also irresponsible. Some people are irresponsible. Not news. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/12/20 02:14 AM |
| 1 | Sex is Love vs Sex isn't Love?My opinion is that it’s not “love,” it’s curiosity, but it does require an amount of mutual respect and trust to be good. In terms of whether this should be communicated. Everything is better with communication. I don’t think you’re required to do so, but the more on the same page everyone is about sex the less chance their is for hurt feelings later. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/12/20 12:07 AM |
| 1 | Female Sexuality: Do You Need To Get Off?I think it totally depends on the woman! I LIKE getting off, but actually derive a lot of sexual satisfaction from pleasing a partner and so if it doesn’t happen it’s okay with me, as long as it happens for the person I’m with. That said, it’s always better when it happens for everyone involved!! My guess is whoever said this initially has been lied to by some women he can’t make cum. I also think a lot of women go through an amount of their early end of their sex life without ever having a real… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/12/20 12:05 AM |
| 2 | Why do men say they prefer experienced women IRL and not so much online?Because these online communities are actually a pretty small subset of the real world male demographic. I’ve found most men in the real world would be/are scared to death of having sex with virgins because they’re afraid said virgins will get attached to fast. Most of those who aren’t scared to do so just don’t really care if someone is one or not. Remember that the RP and Incel communities run closely interwined, and incels are usually a little insecure about their own lack of sexual experience… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/12/20 12:00 AM |
| 2 | CMV : High body count partners aren’t good for Long Term Relationships.I actually think it’s not about high or low at all, often best is when people in long term relationships have similar counts in either direction, because it means they probably understand relationships and sex in similar ways, and therefore will more likely see eye-to-eye on the subject. I am a woman with what I would call a “medium count” but some might call high I don’t know what peoples perspectives are on that, but I prefer to be in long term relationships with people who also have a medium-… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/12/20 05:26 PM |
| 1 | Young women are less likely to intend to use a condom with a more facially attractive male partner, and over 50% of non-virgin women report having intentionally employed a tactic (excluding other preventative birth control methods) to prevent/inhibit effective condom usageThis isn’t responsible but I think the fact that women who have had more partners may use condoms less might have to do more with just feeling less scared of unprotected sex due to having done it however many times without any bad luck. So a virgin, depending where she grew up, probably got a whole lot of horror stories in sex Ed about STDS etc and is probably more afraid to take the risk. Someone who has had more sex, maybe tried it a few times unprotected and found that nothing bad happened, m… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/12/20 04:59 PM |
| 3 | Young women are less likely to intend to use a condom with a more facially attractive male partner, and over 50% of non-virgin women report having intentionally employed a tactic (excluding other preventative birth control methods) to prevent/inhibit effective condom usageAs a woman I can attest to the fact that condom use makes sex less pleasurable for women as well, but really it’s still fun and it’s a lot of fun to not get STDs. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/12/20 04:52 PM |
| 1 | Young women are less likely to intend to use a condom with a more facially attractive male partner, and over 50% of non-virgin women report having intentionally employed a tactic (excluding other preventative birth control methods) to prevent/inhibit effective condom usageWait where does that graph give info on attractiveness? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/12/20 04:45 PM |
| 3 | Did you have high standards of physical attraction for a mate and then "settle" for someone you're not attracted to?I’ve never settled for anyone, I’ve also spent more time single than most of my friends, but the relationships I’ve had have been of higher quality than most relationships I’ve seen around me. That said, my “high standards” rest more on attributes that aren’t physical. I’ve never dated someone I’m not attracted to, but I have dated people that other people don’t understand my attraction to, and maybe to them it looked like “settling” but it never was. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/12/20 04:15 PM |
| 1 | What non physical aspects do you value in men?Humor Being himself/not taking things personally all the time Good listener Attentive in bed | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/12/20 11:47 PM |
| 2 | Why do men and women wear different clothes and rather than wearing the same clothes and what femimine clothing items could become commonplace for men to wear in the future? And what about all other gendered products?Honestly it makes a lot of sense for men to wear dresses considering their genitals. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/12/20 11:45 PM |
| 1 | What do women think of men with long hair?Depends on the guy and the hair. I think like most aesthetic choices it’s about how it all comes together. Some people look great with long hair, others look better with it shorter. Depends on the hair and the bone structure. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/12/20 11:41 PM |
| 1 | Most women I know are not as funny as the men. Why do you think that happens?I’m hilarious. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/12/20 11:39 PM |
| 1 | Should guys trust their partners with gay guys ?I’ve know a lot of gay guys in my life and most of them find women sexually repulsive, even ones they love as friends and appreciate as beautiful. Obviously sexuality is a spectrum, but generally I wouldn’t worry about it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/12/20 11:38 PM |
| 1 | What does it mean for someone to "live life on easy mode"?It doesn’t mean there’s no difficulty, it means you begin with a lot going for you that will make difficulty easier to weather or cope with. It’s like starting with a handicap. If you’re a relatively good looking, able bodied, white man born to a financially stable family, youre going to have an easier time in life than someone who doesn’t check any or all of those boxes. Doesn’t mean bad things can’t happen to you, it means when they do, they’ll still be easier than if you weren’t all those thi… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/12/20 12:42 AM |
| 2 | Do women want to be sexualised and why/why not?I think a part of it is that now western women are ALLOWED to wear whatever they want without being penalized for it. Like you said, they were controlled by men and part of that control was that if they showed skin they were punished or harshly ridiculed for it. I don’t think women want to be sexualized by the masses. I do think women want to be sexy to the people they’re attracted to, and since they can’t push a button and make it such that only people they’re attracted to can see them, everyon… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/12/20 02:47 PM |
| 2 | No, biology doesn't say that you "should" reproduce / spread your genesThank you for putting this into words. I’m a primatologist and have almost written something like this here many times, but have always lost interest/the drive to do so before I finished. You’re right on every count. There’s a huuuge misunderstanding about how evolution/biology work that runs rampant through this subreddit. Biology doesn’t “want” anything. Evolution doesn’t “want” anything. Evolution also doesn’t affect the level of the individual, but the level of the species: arguably given th… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/12/20 02:37 PM |
| 1 | Why do some beautiful women become sex workers instead of marrying a rich provider?Yeah, and your point is? Still better than being completely dependent on someone you married just for stability. I stripped for money in my early 20s. put myself through college and grad school that way. I have absolutely no regrets about it and it’s had zero effect on my personal life. Only consequence I’ve suffered is two degrees I could never have afforded otherwise and a career and I’m debt-free. Maybe I could have had those things if I married a rich guy instead, but only if said rich guy w… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/12/20 01:59 PM |
| 2 | The reason why most men struggle with dating is because OLD doesn’t work and cold approaching doesn’t workPeople meet each other lots of ways: social circles, work, random chance encounters. Everyone is just too impatient and obsessed with instant gratification. That’s why we want to rely on things like OLD, because it feels like instant gratification: all you have to do is swipe, then you get a swipe back with an instant yes/no. Same could be said of cold approach, but sometimes it’s just a truth that instant gratification doesn’t mean best results, it just means instant results. People find partne… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/11/20 04:11 PM |
| 9 | Why do some beautiful women become sex workers instead of marrying a rich provider?Because marriage is the rest of your life and sex work can be a temporary situation. Also, because when it’s sex work it’s your own money not someone else’s. Some people don’t want to be financially dependent on others. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/11/20 07:22 PM |
| 1 | Do most women have an inbuilt instinct that prevents them from being attracted to someone without a connection?I think the reason men in professional capacities talk or act on their attractions to women in the workplace/their students more often is because it’s actually more socially acceptable for them to do so in a certain way. Even though it’s still “not allowed” there’s a trope that a man who is older or more powerful attracting a woman who has less authority is sort of normal and even “hot.” It’s in so many books and movies. Same isn’t true of the reverse. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/11/20 04:12 PM |
| 4 | Penis-size-manifesto: bigger is better up until the point of inconvenience?Big is nicer as long as the guy understands the importance of foreplay and is good at it. Big without foreplay or with bad foreplay is actually way worse than smaller, and in my experience a lot of guys with big ones don’t think they have to do much just because their dicks are big. Also yes there is such thing as “too big” but “too big” is a real extreme as long as the person knows what they’re doing. With great power...comes great responsibility. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/11/20 04:00 PM |
| 1 | My red flagsI get it, but here’s my question. What if someone has a rough past but is actively working on it and manages/communicates her trauma well? I have diagnosed PTSD, grew up in an abusive home (my father), and also suffered abuse from past partners. I’ve been in therapy for years and honestly think I’m overall pretty good at managing my issues at this point. I don’t take it out on people who don’t deserve it, and the triggers I do still have I communicate about openly. I’ve definitely told guys I “d… | /r/seduction | 18/11/20 01:15 PM |
| 1 | Where do you draw the line between annoyance and persistence?Definitely focus on meeting in person. There is literally no text that will make someone interested if they’re not already. Just saying. | /r/seduction | 15/11/20 05:55 AM |
| 1 | Where do you draw the line between annoyance and persistence?Listen to this guy! Doesn’t matter how many times you call that job that didn’t hire you, if they turned you down it was for a reason (either someone was a better fit, or you’re just not what they’re looking for) they’re not gonna be like “well but then he called a lot let’s give him the job.” | /r/seduction | 14/11/20 02:08 PM |
| 3 | Where do you draw the line between annoyance and persistence?Yeah it’s a bad approach. Believe me, as a woman I can attest to the fact that every woman has an inbox or DM box full of guys who couldn’t take no for an answer and think if they just keep trying every now and then it’ll work eventually. It doesn’t, it just makes you look desperate, and we lose respect for you as a result. If it has worked in the past, hate to say it but it’s likely that the girl got turned down by someone else she liked more, or went through some type of rejection and was like… | /r/seduction | 14/11/20 02:06 PM |
| 1 | Where do you draw the line between annoyance and persistence?I think persistence is over rated and a trope that we get from books and movies but in reality most of us (women) find annoying and a little disrespectful. “Persistence” is another word for not listening to or taking seriously a woman’s lack of interest in you just because she’s a woman and no one likes that. If a women does that to a man she’s not “persistent” she’s “desperate and clingy,” because, well, it is. My little brother once told me this and I think it’s dumb little brother stuff but a… | /r/seduction | 14/11/20 01:53 PM |
| 8 | (Question for girls/womens) Can you "feel" our desire?Yes definitely. I’m sure you can too you maybe just don’t believe your intuition enough. | /r/seduction | 14/11/20 01:43 PM |
| 2 | How To Use Your Insecurities To Make You More Attractive To WomenOh absolutely. My ex partner was very insecure about the fact that he went bald in his mid twenties, I knew he was insecure about it because we dated for 5 years so you get to know someone well in that time, but when we first met he used to joke around about being bald all the time. Confidence in ones body, no matter what it looks like, is definitely much sexier than any physical detriment takes away from attractiveness. | /r/seduction | 14/11/20 01:42 PM |
| 5 | CMV: RP men are in denial about the reality of older bachelorsI think there’s more to it than just “single vs married.” A lot of happiness comes from places outside interpersonal relationships. I’m happiest when I’m with someone I love, but I’m pretty happy single too because I have a good network of friends, a job I like, and hobbies I’m passionate about. Sure I get lonely from time to time but not “depressed” really. If other things in your life are stable and positive. You can be happy even if your love life isn’t perfect for awhile. That said, a lot of… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/11/20 01:20 PM |
| 10 | [Q4All]What are you thoughts on Ghosting?Yeah that’s not ghosting, she just didn’t like talking to him enough to go out. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/11/20 01:06 PM |
| 6 | [Q4All]What are you thoughts on Ghosting?I think it’s only ghosting if you’ve had sex. I think before you’ve had sex, if you’ve met in person and had any physical intimacy (kissing, for example) you’re being a much better person if you communicate that you’re not feeling it, but a lot of people don’t and it’s not really ghosting, it’s part of dating. Dates without sex are still very much a trial run of “am I even attracted to this person.” Before the world of OLD where everyone knows that whoever is on the app is looking for something … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/11/20 01:04 PM |
| 3 | Hooking up and doing ONS on the side while in the beginning stages of dating a real relationship prospectI think it’s more like exploiting a loophole in the rules to get said benefits and still be able to say “I didn’t do anything wrong” if confronted about it but yes same idea. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/11/20 01:35 AM |
| 1 | The reason why men think women are lying when they personality matters a lot is because they mistake personality for characterI think you’re sort of right. Mostly right. People value both but I think personality/charisma matters a lot and character matters to the degree that you’re respectful and have your shit together in the most baseline way but significantly less. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/11/20 12:22 AM |
| 1 | Hooking up and doing ONS on the side while in the beginning stages of dating a real relationship prospectWomen shouldn’t need men either. Both parties should be doing exactly what you described, that’s how relationships are healthiest. “The talk” should happen not because anyone wants to lock anything down, but because a relationship is just happening already (neither person wants to see anyone else anymore, and doing so just feels bad). You’re defining something that exists on its own, not forcing something to exist that doesn’t. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/11/20 12:15 AM |
| 3 | Hooking up and doing ONS on the side while in the beginning stages of dating a real relationship prospectI don’t think it’s unethical the way cheating is it’s just unattractively selfish. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/11/20 12:00 AM |
| 1 | Hooking up and doing ONS on the side while in the beginning stages of dating a real relationship prospectWhy should the woman bring up the talk? I think whoever feels it’s necessary first should bring it up... | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/11/20 05:34 PM |
| 1 | Hooking up and doing ONS on the side while in the beginning stages of dating a real relationship prospectYes, you have a right to ask them about anything you want. You can’t be mad about the answer, but you have the right to know and definitely the right to drop them like a hot potato if you’re not comfortable with what they say. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/11/20 05:33 PM |
| 3 | Hooking up and doing ONS on the side while in the beginning stages of dating a real relationship prospectIt’s not really cheating if they’re not dating, it’s just not a great way to get someone to stick with you if you think you actually want to date some day... | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/11/20 05:32 PM |
| 1 | Hooking up and doing ONS on the side while in the beginning stages of dating a real relationship prospectI think it’s absolutely okay to do, but if you’re already sexually involved with person #1 you need to communicate about it. If you know it’s something you’re seeking, communicate before it happens. If it happens unexpectedly, communicate about it afterwards (ASAP). Also understand that person #1 may decide that he/she does not want to be with someone who is doing that and may lose interest in you as a result: it’s his/her prerogative to tell you so and stop seeing you if that’s how he/she feels… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/11/20 05:27 PM |
| 1 | Why do men gravitate towards the Red Pill?Well sometimes disappointment comes out as excuses/blaming... But this argument is boring. Haha. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/11/20 06:29 PM |
| 1 | Why do men gravitate towards the Red Pill?Well that sounds like something you should take up with...the majority of people I’ve seen posting about it... What I can say is that as someone from the outside, that demographic of RP folks seems very large and is certainly standing for all of you in my mind. It’s not great to generalize but I also think we’re talking about an ideology wholly based in generalizations of groups of people so maybe a little in the opposite direction is fine. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/11/20 06:28 PM |
| 1 | Why do men gravitate towards the Red Pill?Like I said if you want me to use some word that isn’t “blame” I’m fine doing that, the idea is the same though. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/11/20 05:06 PM |
| 1 | Why do men gravitate towards the Red Pill?OP asked “why men gravitate towards RP.” What I said is based on what I’ve noticed people here on on the RP forum on Reddit saying. I drew conclusions based on why that sample of men overall seems to have gravitated in that direction. If you have had different experiences with different types of redpillers I invite you to share them. I’m sure they exist. Whether what I’ve noticed is the intention of RP or not, it is pervasive at least in the forums here. I could give you a pretty long list histo… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/11/20 05:05 PM |
| 1 | Why do men gravitate towards the Red Pill?I’m just taking from what I’ve seen, you’re right, and I assume that is what OP is referring to since that’s the community we’re speaking within. That idea of “what women are” is exactly what I’m talking about: classifying women that way becomes an excuse. Taking only from my experience reading people’s posts, but also believing those posts come from a philosophy that makes it easy to fall into that trap. If you’d prefer me not to use the word “blame” because it’s weighted I can choose different… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/11/20 02:33 PM |
| 2 | Why do men gravitate towards the Red Pill?I think the reasons are pretty clear: RP philosophy is basically one giant excuse for why they’re unsuccessful in dating/attracting people that completely blames women, so they don’t have to take accountability or self reflect. Check out the way the dudes on this forum talk: think most of them are rolling in puss? Doubt it, and of course they gravitate towards a philosophy that tells them that there’s nothing wrong with them, it’s just the way things are and the way women are. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/11/20 12:39 PM |
| 2 | Has your sex and romantic life improved as you've gotten older?Dude. It’s a global pandemic. What do you expect? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/11/20 12:50 AM |
| 2 | Do some of you actually not care if a guy has hobbiesI don’t think they have to be defined “hobbies” but definitely passions of some kind. If that passion is your job then, sure, but yes I do think it’s decidedly unattractive when someone has nothing they love doing and are just sort of working and socializing and waiting to die. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/10/20 10:26 PM |
| 1 | Sex differences in same sex friendships are caused by biological sex differences,not socialization.You’re generalizing hunter gatherer societies—there are many cultures that are matriarchal, and many cultures in which women hunted or acted as warriors. Can’t it be both? Yes biologically women have more instinctual/hormonal pull towards close lasting friendships because men are biologically supposed to fight each other or compete for mates to some degree, whereas babies survive better with multiple caregivers and so having a social network is beneficial to moms, but ALSO women are socialized y… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/10/20 05:12 PM |
| 1 | The things I have noticed about gender roles and what is expected of menAs a girl who is 5’10 I’ve found that men who are much shorter than me (which if they are the US average of 5’8 they are so it’s a fair number) rarely ask me out or approach me, some do. I think you’re right though height specifically is less of a factor for men, but men have other traits that fall along the same lines, just different traits: weight, age (younger men like younger women, older men also like younger women), overall attractiveness of face. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/10/20 08:55 PM |
| 3 | What makes submissive women attractive?I agree with this. I don’t think I’m very submissive: I usually ask guys out, I make the first move about 1/2 the time, I initiate sex when I want it and don’t take a submissive role sexually, but I’ve been referred to as “submissive” I think because I don’t get up in people’s business and control their lives/don’t make a lot of demands from my partner. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/10/20 06:13 PM |
| 1 | The things I have noticed about gender roles and what is expected of menPoint number 1: right to an extent except that not all people with athletic bodies are work-out nuts. I don’t really work out as a hobby, but I’ve been doing MMA for three years and so my body looks athletic. I couldn’t care less about working out though, and so I kind of don’t give a fuck if my guy hits the gym or not as long as he’s not EXTREMELY unhealthy, non-athletic is okay. However, I think men do this to women as well, especially with weight: Thinner or fitter guys like thinner or fitter… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/10/20 06:05 PM |
| 1 | Realistically what's the lowest you'll go in terms of a guys looks?Sort of neither. I like dudes that look like big scary tattooed/bearded vikings. I can’t help it it’s a type it’s not on purpose. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/10/20 10:33 PM |
| 1 | Realistically what's the lowest you'll go in terms of a guys looks?Like I said, around a 6 I think. Personality goes a long way and I’d prefer a 6 with a good personality to a dull or shitty 10 any day. I think what I see as attractive isn’t really “magazine/Hollywood pretty,” but also no one would think it ugly, just kind of unusual maybe. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/10/20 08:35 PM |
| 5 | Online dating and filtersI think filters are just an easy way to keep people from experiencing rejection they don’t need. For example, I’d never date a guy with kids. I just don’t want that. Doesn’t matter how great they are, I don’t wanna be new mommy to anyone or navigate family dynamics. It’s a waste of any dudes time who has kids to consider me romantically, so why waste that time? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/10/20 03:48 PM |
| 1 | Are relationship checkups beta?Look it up. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/10/20 03:46 PM |
| 8 | Realistically what's the lowest you'll go in terms of a guys looks?It’s not a requirement, it’s a preference that comes from mostly insecurity because I’m taller than any dude that isn’t...kind of tall...and I like to feel like a little lady sometimes not a huge hulk beast. Anyway, you think a guy who’s 5’7 really wants some amazonian towering over him? Notttt usually. I’m sure you have a shallow preference or two as well. It’s human. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/10/20 03:43 PM |
| 6 | Realistically what's the lowest you'll go in terms of a guys looks?Yeah and honestly shorter guys are often not into being with a girl taller than them either so it goes both ways! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/10/20 03:36 PM |
| 1 | Why do so many men believe that women prefer partners that treat them bad.Hard to say, maybe blame the media? We all want to be the one girl who is soooo good and special that the bad boy softens up and shows us his true heart of gold like in all the movies and teen dramas? It feels like winning something to wrangle one. Same way a lot of guys like “the chase” when they’re young and girls who play hard to get/fuck around being coy and playing mind games, but it seems like much as we do most of you grow out of it and ultimately just want to know where you stand with so… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/10/20 11:22 PM |
| 1 | Are relationship checkups beta?I am a woman and if a man I was dating offered to do this/suggested it I would jump his bones right then and there it would be so incredibly hot to me. Communication=WAP. Does that make it beta? I don’t know! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/10/20 11:11 PM |
| 1 | If everything around you smells like shit, it's time to check your shoesAmen brother. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/10/20 11:09 PM |
| 1 | Why do so many men believe that women prefer partners that treat them bad.I think a lot of us go through a “bad boy” phase at some point, and most of us grow out of it after getting burned a couple times. Honestly most women I know would much prefer a supportive and loyal partner than one who mistreats them, and are much more attracted to respectful men then jerks. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/10/20 11:06 PM |
| 1 | PPD women how do normal women view their own market value?I think it’s not a meat market. I think historically women have been taught to weigh their value on how much men value them, and I think it’s great that they are starting to see otherwise and are enjoying broadcasting that on dating apps/social media, probably because that’s the worth they see in themselves, which is MUCH more valid than whatever worth some random dude sees in them. It’s just changing the game. It’s not about “leagues” anymore it’s just people putting out what they got and seein… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/10/20 11:03 PM |
| 1 | What does PPD think of relationships between teenagers and adults significantly older than them?Depends how much older the person is. I don’t think it’s that weird for a 15 year old to date an 18 year old. I DO think it’s gross for a 15 year old to date a 20+ year old, but I don’t think it’s that weird for a 30 year old to date a 38 year old even though that’s more years apart than 15 to 20. It’s more about life landmarks/experience than age. Most of my thought is “what the hell is wrong with those 20 year olds that they even have anything to really connect with someone who is 15 about.” | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/10/20 10:58 PM |
| 5 | Realistically what's the lowest you'll go in terms of a guys looks?Like others have said what a 1 is and what a 10 is are very subjective. In terms of what I personally find attractive though: 6 with a good sense of humor/good personality/respectful and confident. I’m also almost 5’10 and do have a really hard time being attracted to men who are shorter or equal height to me. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/10/20 10:54 PM |
| 2 | So what male criteria for assessing female value is acceptable to women ?What makes you think we don’t scrutinize it for ourselves? Answering your questions: none of the above (criterion you suggested) are acceptable to me. I can’t speak for all women. I’m kind of a ho, and kind of a dom. I’ve mostly dated men who are also kind of hos, and preferred dominant women so it hasn’t counted against me. Ways I’d liked to be judged as per my value: -sense of humor -self reliance/independence -supportiveness/loyalty as a partner -sexual prowess -intelligence -yeah probably be… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/10/20 10:46 PM |
| 2 | Are men unable to tell that women are way nicer than how much they are actually interested?I think it’s just more socially acceptable for women to cry so it gets seen more often, and less socially acceptable for women to express anger/lust so it gets seen less. I honestly think all genders experience these emotions and react to them kind of similarly, and some people are better than others at compartmentalizing, but how they end up being put out into the world looks different which is mostly about socialization in childhood. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/10/20 07:18 PM |
| 3 | Are men unable to tell that women are way nicer than how much they are actually interested?Well it sounds then like maybe this is something you personally do? I agree a lot of us choose to “let guys down easy” or whatever but I also think a lot of the time they just assume we’re flirting when we’re actually just talking and not being assholes. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/10/20 04:38 PM |
| 9 | Are men unable to tell that women are way nicer than how much they are actually interested?In my experience men are MUCH more emotionally volatile/can’t tell their feelings from reality. Number of guys I’ve been out with like 1-2 times and are all of a sudden “in love” with me??? Come on, you’re not in love with me, you don’t know me, you just want to fuck and think I’m interesting and can’t tell the difference. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/10/20 10:18 AM |
| 3 | Are men unable to tell that women are way nicer than how much they are actually interested?Are you sure they’re not just being legitimately nice and you’re misinterpreting that as flirting? I feel like I can’t have a conversation with a guy without the guy assuming it’s an invitation, even when I’m in a relationship and that’s not on my radar at all I just like talking to people and have a lot of friends of different genders. Would you rather us all just be total bitches and say “don’t talk to me I don’t want to fuck you?” Unless we’re sexually interested? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/10/20 10:16 AM |
| 2 | Literally every woman on Tinder. In my experience, the top left woman is the most insufferable of them all.Yes the male equivalent would be: A guy holding a fish- Aka “oh look I went fishing once and also maybe this fish is the size of my penis” A guy doing a selfie with a caption that implies it’s just “ironic”-AKA “I want you to see me looking attractive but don’t want to just own that I’m doing something vain because I’m too insecure to admit it.” A guy flexing his muscles in the mirror-aka “I think I’m actually the hottest dude on here and I probably wrote nothing on my profile cuz my abs speak f… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/10/20 04:00 PM |
| 0 | Does your own level of attractiveness determines who you find attractiveI don’t like dating men who I think are significantly more attractive than me, it makes me feel insecure, not that I think they will cheat actually just insecure about my own appearance. I don’t want to be looked at in that “HES with HER” way, you know? Like someone’s doing me a favor or something? Shitty but true fact. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/10/20 08:49 PM |
| 2 | Q4Women: What makes you sexually attracted to a man?To be honest? I think it’s kind of a mystery to a lot of us. Good sense of humor is definitely a part of it but I also know a lot of funny people I’m not attracted to. I’m gonna go ahead and say a lot of it is the way someone smells, but not smells they put on just natural smells? It’s kind of one of those “just happens when it happens” things for me. Rarely the most classically handsome person in the room. Just there’s something that sparks with some people and you usually don’t see it coming. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/10/20 08:59 PM |
| 1 | How much does money matter to women?I think it matters that someone’s not a deadbeat (has a job/way to support himself). That is to say, if someone is living on the street and unemployed, or like 30 and trying to be a rockstar but still living on daddy’s credit I might be less inclined to date that person. Apart from that extreme I don’t think it matters. I think it matters more to women who have or know they want kids though. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/10/20 08:55 PM |
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