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DiscussionZytaxWarflame/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/20 11:26 PM
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No. People who argue that think happiness is a zero sum game. Those are not well adjusted people, and society has no obligation to those people, myself included. Happiness is an intrinsic thing. At the end of the day happiness is something that comes from your mental state. It's not about society, it's not about other people, and it's not about what you have and dont have. Obviously somethings make it easier to be happy, but most of those things aren't necessary for happiness. Women dont need to…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/20 03:45 AM
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I can understand where that hatred would come from . I thought I was crazy though, because like you said most incels are sad people. They tend to be extremely self critical and introspective. They acknowledge their faults, and give up on themselves. Most people see them as a hate/extremist group, and I just don't understand why. I know its semantics but an extremist incel doesn't make sense to me; but I'm probably letting my lived experience cloud my judgement. Seriously Incels are more prone to…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/20 10:00 PM
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I would feel confused. I'd have to talk to her to figure something out. I dont think I'd feel betrayed, but I'm just not sure. My ex was pansexual so I actually thought about this when I was with her.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/20 02:20 AM
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I dont agree, but I only have anecdotes. I'm kind of anti social, and I think I might be on the autism spectrum( take with grain of salt), when I was with my ex we sat down, and I asked her what exactly she was expecting from our relationship. This was to help me understand her needs. But as the relationship progressed things just got worse. There was less communication, less intensity, less everything. The things she said she wanted didnt align with reality. I wasnt perfect either, I should've …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/20 11:24 PM
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I didnt take into account that subs are like microcosms on their own, with their own extremist, and environments. After all the replies I got I understand just a little bit more what's probably going on. What your saying also makes a lot of since. The minority is the loudest, and most radical, thus giving a bad rep to the group. Theres also biased restrictions set in place by those with 'power'. That's actually a really pragmatic answer.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/20 08:16 AM
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Yeah, from what I've seen the blackpille are disillusioned about life in general. They seem very jaded, but not in the same way as incels. The blackpillers accept their fate in a cynical, ironic, and kind of fatalistic way. Also with some levity. I have seen some blackpill incels, but most of those post are suicide notes...
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/20 06:27 AM
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Lol. I noticed that there might be some overlap between black pill and doomers. Both seem tl hate existing, that might be a mixed group and not representative of the black pill community.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/20 06:19 AM
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Lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/20 05:31 AM
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Oof. That legitimately sounds like actual warfare.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/20 05:31 AM
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That's just depressing. Hasn't solved anything. Just depressing.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/20 05:30 AM
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I understand the groups wont see eye to eye, but a compromise is better than a stalemate in these situations. Nothing is getting solved. Everything is getting progressively worse. We need to find a middle ground or things will never get better. There will be a breaking point.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/20 04:45 AM
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Truthfully I have no idea how to solve the other issues, but maybe we could get some psychologist, and behavioral scientists behind that. Experts with potential solutions. There would need to be an open discourse for problems to be addressed properly though.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/20 04:26 AM
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Okay in regards to masculinity and femininity, I dont understand why both of these concepts are attacked so heavily. I dont understand why both are condemned. Masculine men are called toxic, and feminine women are called shallow? I cant understand why both groups only see the bad in eachother MGTOW/Redpill vs FDS & SJWs. Why cant we agree that we need both masculinity and femininity to coexist? I would like for men and women to coexist. We each have our own problems, but in healthy heterosexual …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/20 04:22 AM
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That's actually pretty reasonable.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/20 04:15 AM
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I think everyone agreed that the most qualified candidate should get the job. I think everyone can agree that the mental health problems of each group deserve to be addressed. As for sexual freedom, shouldnt we draw the line at pedophilia? Child rearing is tough, but I think the abuse laws might need some work. Theres also a lot of discrimination against men in family court, that should be addressed right? Most people agree that having a family is a good thing. The contention here comes in when …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/20 03:39 AM
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Okay, here are some things I think have a middle ground. Meritocracy Sexuality Mental health Masculinity and femininity in relation to each other Sexual freedom Child rearing The value of the family unit in modern society Government intervention Some of these topics have strong contention, but there is definitely a middle ground to be had if people got past the name calling, and being offended.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/20 03:35 AM
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Fair enough. Thanks for your insight. I never really saw it this way.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/20 03:18 AM
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Same. Separating them creates unnecessary confusion, and makes something neutral offensive. I dont think it was done in good faith.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/20 03:07 AM
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Okay. Thanks for the insight. I dont have anything else to say to this. I cant think of anything else.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/20 03:04 AM
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If it gets to that point cant they just ignore eachother? It seems that so many of them have a search and destroy mission ongoing. They dont make up a large percentage of the population. They dont have to seek eachother out like mortal enemies. I'm starting to feel like I'm asking for something impossible...
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/20 03:01 AM
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I really don't want to get into this type of argument. I can only see it as semantics. They want to change the language and how it's used, and I can only see that as a power move to shut down debates on the topic. Again I dont agree on their view of gender.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/20 02:59 AM
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So people typically cant look past their worldviews. I get that. That actually makes sense. It doesn't solve anything, but it makes sense. I'm basically asking people to change their worldviews, and that's nigh impossible.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/20 02:52 AM
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I think that if we had an actual conversation we could try to solve problems with action. Maybe we could find a middle ground, and compromise somewhere. And surely there have to be some issues that aren't a zero sum game. Why are all these problems ignored? Would they still be ignored if we could clearly communicate with eachother?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/20 02:50 AM
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Okay I think I get it. Your saying all these groups are beyond reconciliation because of their past experiences. They've all been fucked over, and dont care about eachother because of that. I assume that this results in confirmation bias, and an Us v them mentality. It seems that communication between these groups is highly improbable if you view it like this. I suppose what bothers me the most is how they vilify eachother. There seems to be real hatred between some of these groups, and I think …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/20 02:45 AM
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I dont really get what you're saying. It seems like your saying all those groups are circle jerking, and people join them to feel better about their shitty lives. And that they have an us vs them mentality. Theres no talking with those type of people.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/20 02:28 AM
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I think the general public is pretty bad as well, not as malicious, but definitely stubborn. I can see where you're coming from though. Thanks.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/20 02:20 AM
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Okay I understand now. Thank you for explaining.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/20 01:26 AM
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Thanks for the thought out reply. This is more the attitude I'm talking about. A lot of people only see the negatives of a group, and that bothers me. Most groups are rarely only negative. I believe the discourse could be better if we approached eachother as equals, with thought out ideas, rather than hurt children.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/20 01:14 AM
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I like to think some people are high level trolls, but that seems a little to meta to be true.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/20 01:08 AM
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Okay. I kinda understand. But wont that tire you out emotionally?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/20 01:06 AM
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That's pretty meta. You sound like a philosopher. Generally speaking you're correct. But I dont agree that we should just accept the inevitability of it all. There are fights worth fighting
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/20 12:39 AM
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You probably shouldn't torment yourself to much. Ultimately those people are strangers on the internet lashing out. They're like hurt animals. They'll swipe at you because you resemble the thing that hurt them. You have to chose your battles better.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/20 12:36 AM
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I actually joined maybe a month ago. Blush. I just like the idea of a neutral space, but I constantly see post that are clearly biased. They ask skewed questions, that leave no room for meaningful opposition.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/20 12:33 AM
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That actually makes sense. Thanks for the insight. I tend to forget that everyone has their own emotional baggage. It's so easy to blame a certain group for that pain.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/20 12:13 AM
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Fair enough. I've always thought of relationships in a pragmatic way. I've tried falling in love like an innocent boy, but that backfired on me hard. Lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/20 12:12 AM
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If you tried so hard to empathize, and have failed, why dont you just ignore them? Incel subs are a mixed bag. They aren't looking for a solution to their problems. They are looking for an echo chamber that makes them feel validated.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/20 12:11 AM
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Aren't relationships supposed to be give and take? Each person looks for something in their partner. There's no such thing as true love. You're together for a reason, and you break up for a reason. And again I still have lived experience that differs from yours. There are men out there who really have women willing to kill for them. Not all women, but there are some women really attracted to dangerous, psychopathic, manipulative, men. I wouldn't call an obsessive relationship healthy. Ultimately…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/20 12:08 AM
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It sucks. We live in the most free time of humanity's existence, but we still divide ourselves arbitrarily. It's so dumb.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/20 12:02 AM
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I have some lived experiences that directly counter the looks/height argument. But I do believe women find value in a Man's utility. I'm a short black man, and I live in a ghetto area. I know some short ugly dudes that get women. They typically exude the bad boy aura, but that's because they max out the dark triad traits. I've seen this called Thugmaxing on an incel sub.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/20 12:01 AM
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Nah. My life would not be better. I'd just have different problems to deal with. I'd still be alone, and miserable. I'd still be socially awkward/stunted. I'd still be emotionally closed off. And on top of that I'd be physically weaker. Itd probably make me extremely paranoid. I'm already paranoid enough about my safety as a man. I'd probably feel like shit if people only approached me because they wanted to fuck. I wouldn't feel as alone though. Theres give and take. I am happy to be a Male tho…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/20 09:48 PM
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Thanks guy. Actually verbalizing my current state of mind got me seriously thinking about the future again. I have a general direction to go now, and the sense of urgency that caused my anxiety before, is also gone. I'm going to leisurely pursue my goal, because its reasonable, and within my control. And on the way I'll try to enjoy myself.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/20 01:26 AM
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It can't be as simple as that. I think it really depends more on the individuals involved. There's some people that marriage will never work for them. Is not about settling down it's more the idea of starting a family with someone and being locked in with them. For some people they would kill to have someone settle for them because the loneliness is maddening. There should be a lot of people who are willing to live an average life. I refuse to believe that the average person isn't looking for an…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/20 09:00 PM
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I'm gonna preface this by saying I know it's stupid and simp like. I fell in love. Completely. I met the woman I wanted to be my wife and i realized my own inadequacy as a man because of it. It made me systematically review myself, and then set a course of action to secure our future together. My first step in the being a good husband plan was to make more money. I was gonna get my OSHA liscense, even though I dont want to do construction. I was prepared to work 2 or 3 jobs She wanted to go on t…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/20 03:52 AM
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Yes. I have absolutely no real direction in my life right now, and everyday I fantasize about blowing my fucking brains out. But there was a time where I briefly had my shit together. I had a tangible goal, and a way to work towards it, aka problems to solve, that would lead me to the life I imagined. That goal has been utterly destroyed, and with it all my purpose.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/20 03:13 AM
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This post completely misses the point that there are advantages and disadvantages for both genders. Males and females have different problems. Men and women have different responsibilities. Men dont have it better than women, and women don't have it better than men. At least not in most of the free world. We each have our own experiences that the other gender, typically, cant relate to; but that doesn't make it easier to be x gender. Maybe you feel personally that you would prefer to be the oppo…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/20 02:23 AM
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Emotions are never rational. I think your argument is flawed. Its logical to recognize the core issue when given a problem. The most logical course of action would be to work heavily on yourself first, control any variables you can, and then afterwards try to limit any outside variables. The most logical actions wouldn't require anger, rage, or blame. But humans are not logical. When people are given something to blame for their failures, they will focus on hating that thing, because its easier …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/20 07:05 PM
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This helps me a little. I have poor social skills. I joined this sub to change that. Before I used to go weeks without having a proper conversation, with anyone. I know it's not much, but since joining this sub I talk to maybe 3 or 4 people a week; outside of work. It isnt much, but it's getting easier to talk to people in general. I feel like I'll get over my anxiety, eventually and find a girlfriend. I didn't have that hope before. When I look back on some of the conversations I've had last mo…
/r/seduction04/02/20 06:16 AM
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I'd date myself now. Shit. I'm not perfect, but I do find myself interesting. Im a bit vain that way.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/20 09:45 PM
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Those people are hypocrites. You're not talkiing to a reasonable person.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/20 03:44 AM
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And that'll lead to another problem all together.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/20 08:29 PM
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People are overrated. That's why I dont have friends.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/20 07:41 PM
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My take on self improvement is introspection. You gotta figure out yourself. What drives you. What makes you happy, what makes you sad, what hurts you. What do you do when you're scared, when you're excited. You need to figure yourself out, and then do things. Do things that scare you, do things that you enjoy, do things that you've always wanted to, do things that you're unsure about. Experience a myriad of things, and reflect on them. Experience is how you mature and change as a person. But yo…
/r/seduction18/12/19 02:20 AM
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Thanks for the positive energy. I dont wanna kill your vibes, but she broke up with me about a month ago. I do get what you're saying though. Building self esteem is a rough journey, but I am trying. I know exactly how important self love is.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/19 04:09 AM
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I never saw relationships like this. I'm always in my head, so I know exactly what a piece of shit I am. I put my woman ahead of me. I wanted to make her feel like the most loved person in the world. I'm a short dude, I have a nice, athletic build, broad shoulders. I try to be considerate, I also carry myself in a respectful ways. I'm insecure, and have anxiety. I also dont make to much money. Everyone is a mixed bag. My partner is my equal, and it's my responsibility to put her happiness over m…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/19 02:52 AM
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