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This is absolutely typical for a woman. SA is ubiquitous. I have many many more stories and examples of people I personally know. I live in a nice middle class urban area in a first world country. Men once again can't comprehend how prevalent and scarring sexual abuse is. And in a similar vein I don't really care that you feel sexually undesired, especially when you have decided to go the denialist route. This is why men here accuse of women of complaining about first world problems it's fucking…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/24 05:06 AM
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No I don't know what it's like to not get sexual attention, I've been getting it since I was 12, first sign of hip flare and breast buds and all these men just suddenly 👀 everywhere I went. Some middle aged dude followed me to school in his car making sure to open the car door when he ejaculated so I could see it. My uncle fingered me in the shower when I was seven, so it's not my earliest sexual experience, men are such horny guys 🤷 Around that time I was also dragged away by a bunch of boys to…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/24 04:45 AM
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I can understand what you're saying, but if you're happier with an objectively worse partner does it even matter? can that partner even be called objectively worse? I also didn't say the options are worse when there's more of them, it's just that humans have problems adjusting to that scenario, almost like we aren't supposed to be dealing with it. The problems that women and men have in dating (and you could go on and on about comparing them and shaming etc) those problems stem from the same roo…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/24 03:00 AM
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I don't date at all. PPD keeps my vag nice and dry
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/24 12:25 AM
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it's the truth though, are you against the truth?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/24 10:14 PM
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yes!
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/24 08:48 PM
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it's hard to compare women's and men's issues in dating because they are so different, and people get stuck in their own narcissistic bubble, which is a massive problem with human nature in general. I do believe men have it worse, but I see so many comments saying that women have it so good... and no, it's really not that great on this side either. Even you're implying that, it's a massive huge gap and women shouldn't even dare speak. That's your narcissistic bubble, not reality.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/24 01:23 AM
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that's just human nature though, men make those same mistakes in the same circumstances, at the same rates as women do. Dumb people in both genders. Also reliable based on what? looking boring? that doesn't say anything about the mechanics on the inside. If you're risking buying a shit box might as well get the one that at least looks good.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/24 11:28 PM
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yeah all men are lambos 😂 a used car dealership with false advertising would be a better analogy.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/24 11:02 PM
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I would also argue that people still struggle to maintain those foundational needs on a mass scale, it might not be immediate direct threat but it's constant stress and struggle
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/24 10:57 PM
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So first world problems are wide spread I guess?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/24 10:55 PM
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Yes that's all true in a general theoretical long term sense. People in warzones, extreme poverty etc don't live with long term thinking though, their immediate needs are so urgent and desperate that it eclipses all else. You're still speaking from a position of first world privilege. Ofcourse mens needs for sex and relationships are important, ofcourse this will stick out like a sore thumb when food, shelter and safety are taken care of and can be taken for granted. Although I did read an inter…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/24 10:51 PM
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Women rage quit out of frustration and disgust, they aren't efficient sorting machines with no emotional responses. You're not trouble shooting a malfunctioning robot for fucks sake, why is that so hard to understand? Do you never vent? Do you never get frustrated? Do you ever delay things that are frustrating and unpleasant? Some very vocal women then go on to social media to make emotional inflammatory blanket statements that involves premature conclusions.Why is this such a mystery to you? Do…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/24 10:39 PM
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People die without eating and sleeping, quickly. Yes relationship needs are important but then are not on the same level as fundamental survival needs, or nowhere near as urgent anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/24 10:35 PM
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that's right, but the amount of men desiring it far exceeds the amount of women desiring it, hence the conclusions women easily jump to.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/24 10:27 PM
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all analogies break down somewhere, that's why they are analogies and not direct examples.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/24 10:10 PM
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Your hardship doesn't make mine easier. The empathy gap is on both sides obviously because the experiences are so different. It's the whole starving children argument, the starving children over there don't make my situation any better, especially if all I want to do is vent a bit because I just read the twentieth comment about some creep wanting to suck my tits.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/24 10:07 PM
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they end up doing that because men do get picked but the process is highly problematic for both sides
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/24 09:56 PM
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there's a concept of 'relaxing and being able to be themselves' that needs to be balanced with 'relationship maintenance effort'. If the relationship is always just work work work people wouldn't want to be in them, people want acceptance too, not to only be loved for the performance.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/24 09:55 PM
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sucks to be everyone
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/24 09:53 PM
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That's what women end up doing, but vetting only begins with filtering messages. That's step one of 50 my dude. And when some of the shit you filter is the creepiest, most degrading lecherous bullshit the whole process puts a bad taste in your mouth. Once again the reason why you can't sympathize is because you haven't been in that position. Women end up picking though, but the process sucks. Just because men have it worse doesn't mean women have it great, it sucks for both just to differing deg…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/24 09:49 PM
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You do understand that first you have to evaluate all the choices to even come a conclusion that they are nearly all the same? Or not? That takes work. Reading 500 sometimes rude and insulting messages takes work. It also all starts blurring together after a while. How do you know that the 200 guys who said 'Hey' didn't really meant 'nice tits, give me a taste, my dick is hard BOING" like the 10 messages you just read. You're too much in the hypotheticals.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/24 09:41 PM
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I never said they're all valid for women, I think #3 is dumb for both.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/24 11:45 AM
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What's my premise lol? I didn't say choices never get made, just that's it's hard, but when pushed people pick the best apparent on the surface option? Is that a logic fail to you?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/24 10:37 AM
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Ok yeah risk of violence, stalking, pregnancy/abortion, pump and dump, higher N count... just small easily overlooked things that hardly ever happen and with low consequence. I think I'll just stay home and watch Netflix, I will sit this pitty party out thanks.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/24 10:32 AM
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Yes they do, and why wouldn't they. You would too when put in that position. That's how choice works. Maybe let's spin it differently. Why have men flooded the market with cheap low quality dick? Why are you all such simps with no self respect or standards? Do you like that? I doubt it, but if you want to be adversarial that's what you get.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/24 10:26 AM
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Yes I did write that but then I didn't want to be rude I hope you realise that choosing a man is a very important life altering decision, much more than shampoo or ice cream. I don't think it's helpful to judge people who's position you haven't been in. Until you're swamped with a myriad of choices, that take time, effort and exposure to risk (emotional, sexual and sometimes safety) to explore, you can't really judge.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/24 10:24 AM
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Sometimes the label outright lies though with people, you actually have to buy them, take them home, open and taste them then wait to see if you have food poisoning. Then if they're not good you have to throw them out. Sometimes even when you try to throw them out they start stalking and you need a restraining order. Who's excited for another round of jam? 😃
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/24 10:18 AM
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this isn't about gender have you ever had a situation where you had hundreds of choices? could be anything. did you have any trouble making the decision, and did you question it after the fact? be honest
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/24 10:10 AM
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Ok let me make it simpler for you. All are valid exept #3. "Chads" complain about the same things women do, lots of tail but they're all hors.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/24 10:07 AM
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Number 3 is the only one I don't think is valid. Interacting online is always going to be a bit forced in the beginning. Regarding the first two... <image> If people were 10x less likely to make a choice when going from 6 to 24 jars, imagine 500 jars? You think you won't be subject to the same psychology when faced with that amount of choice but that's only because you're not faced with it.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/24 09:55 AM
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I just think it should be made more explicit at the beginning of the relationship, it would prevent a lot of issues. Both on the emotional connection AND the sex front. I don't think it's right that some women completely dismiss their partners sexual desires and think they deserve impunity, don't get me wrong. But I wonder how many of them would enter the relationship in the first place if they were told outright that no sex is grounds for break up/divorce? I guess it's a cultural issue. I could…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/24 05:35 AM
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Of course plenty of men are monogamous by nature, but I disagree it's only the top men who play around. I've seen lots of less successful men yearn for that lifestyle but settle for monogamy because it's their best shot. But then I've seen top men wish for a relationship too, in this post actually. Blanket statements about an entire gender are on the whole misguided.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/24 11:00 PM
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Ok your first point is an important distinction to make, people shouldn't be forced to forgo an important need. Agreed otherwise, there's often not a perfect solution, we are complex beings.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/24 10:56 PM
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So sex trumps all (at least for now) but you will tolerate a delay. That's sad if your partner doesn't realise that, most committed relationships operate on the assumption that you value the person above other considerations. A huge amount of conflict and heart break comes from this gap.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/24 09:55 PM
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I've noticed it's hard for men that don't get much play to imagine that most men get played out eventually given the opportunity. It's like travel I suppose, after a while 'every fucking city is the same'.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/24 09:28 PM
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Hopefully you care about the person you're having the relationship with too tight? 😅 If the sex life deteriorated would you consider sticking around or is that your primary motive so you would bail?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/24 09:24 PM
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Yes it is sexist when it's taken this far but let's face it it's not completely unfounded. It's pretty hard not to be disillusioned when surrounded by examples of men valuing pussy over relationships. I think partly this is because of the glorification of casual sex in western media and permissive attitudes on both sides. All of that has many unfortunate consequences, not least of which is the erosion of trust on both sides.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/24 09:19 PM
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I guess so
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/24 07:45 AM
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It's only ok if it's a very new relationship or, a casual one not going anywhere. With increasing levels of commitment it becomes more problematic, to the point of breaking an engagement being toxic and rightfully scandalous in my view.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/24 04:08 AM
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Your definition of a peak for men is a bit problematic. Many men peak way way younger. The loss of looks they commonly incur isn't made up for by the status they may or may not have gained in that time. Yes some men also improve in the looks department but many men age like milk instead. For every fit silver fox there's five balding dumpy accountants. Success isn't guaranteed with hard work either, unlucky things happen all the time. Businesses fail, people are laid off, illness happens. I think…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/24 03:57 AM
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You know you could choose your words a little better. I'm 38 and feel emotionally drained and pretty much done with men, that doesn't make me a 'whack job'.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/24 11:02 AM
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This type of thinking is how it starts. I actually had a private chat with OP and he seems alright, but I bet you anything when cops interview actual killers these are the kinds of false equivalencies they give to justify their actions. The shit that's written in this post is poison.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/24 03:27 AM
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It's not the guns, it's the thought process above. I don't have a problem with gun ownership by a sane responsible individual. Stop making assumptions.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/24 03:10 AM
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We really are still in the dark ages in many ways, that's heartbreaking
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/24 09:37 AM
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Holy shit I'm so sorry, I hope you're getting professional support? Its worse for men because no one believes it
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/24 09:24 AM
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Well that's just hideous and I hope you get justice, I'm so sorry 😞
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/24 08:28 AM
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Stop infantilizing men
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/24 07:31 AM
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This is so true, the only time I was accused is when I rejected someone, and like yourself I was either a virgin or in a committed relationship. They don't respect chaste women, however much they like to virtue signal.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/24 07:18 AM
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Though I do agree men are on the whole weak minded and women need to become more responsible too. I'm not a fan of promiscuity.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/24 06:33 AM
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You just missed the part where I outlined why men in power are the last people we should be judging anyone by.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/24 06:31 AM
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Honey traps and sluts are two completely different tiers. Men in power have extra responsibility so should be especially capable. Unfortunately in our society the people who climb the hierarchy are Machiavellian sociopaths and will do whatever they think they can get away with. That's not the standard we should be holding the male population to. Meditation strengthens the prefrontal cortex, perhaps that needs to be encouraged.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/24 06:28 AM
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If you have a sex addiction you need to own it and get therapy for it. Blaming everyone else for your trou bles is what children do. A healthy man is very capable of controlling his sexual impulses and staying chaste when he decides to do so. While I personally believe western society has become too permissive with sexuality, you're taking it way too far. You have a choice of where you go, who you speak to, what content you view. You aren't raped.by sluts breaking though your door with zip ties …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/24 06:23 AM
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Assault happens against ones will. Are you saying that when a man fucks a slut he's forced into it? He's a passive recipient of something he can't control?? Lol
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/24 06:16 AM
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You do realise that it takes two to do damage through consensual sexual activity? Men are responsible for where they put their penis, unless they are being raped. Promiscuous irresponsible men are equally to blame for the erosion of social the fabric, they are no different to sluts in any way. A slut couldn't exist in a vacuum. When a man uses his natural born advantage at physical violence there is always one loser and one winner, and the loser is an unwilling participant. When a slut fucks a m…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/24 06:08 AM
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Absolutely, it's a pretense of civility, and this is why neurodivergent women get so good at masking just to get by.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/24 02:56 AM
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Yep, that's the dark side of femininity. If you don't conform to the group you're an outsider and a pariah. Something I find to me very hypocritical about it is women tend to be more liberal and 'accepting', but then ostracize so damn quickly. God save you if you point out that the group value they hold isn't based on reality or even basic logic.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/24 02:27 AM
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I can cosign this as an autistic woman. My directness and observations have had me labelled as a 'pick me'. It's funny to me because I'm not trying to please men, I just sound like one I guess. I'm actually pro feminism in a lot of its aspects, I just also have no problem calling out bad traits and behaviours in women, and positive ones in men.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/24 02:03 AM
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Is that because they're cute, or easily taken advantage of?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/24 01:56 AM
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I think he's pointing out that a lot of maladaptive behaviours are found to be cute and quirky in autistic women. I don't understand the feminist hive mind comment though.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/24 01:54 AM
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Freeloading
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/24 12:24 AM
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I think the only thing that has changed is when sex is expected
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/24 04:08 AM
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I think it's quite poetic :(
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/24 11:16 PM
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This is why women love tall men, it's the genetic advantage in a fight. Do I need him to actually know how to fight? Not necessarily, just not afraid to if necessary.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/24 08:46 AM
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I find it hard to imagine a world where all the good guys are so one dimensional and unnatractive but I will humour your scenario. I would probably not choose to wear the glasses at 18 because I'm still dumb at this point. I rebel and follow my instincts of emotional addiction, codependency and seeking excitement and instead get emotionally attached to a fuckboy type and get burned by that. That would prove the value of the glasses to me, and that I don't actually know better. After this would r…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/24 09:42 PM
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I don't think those creepy women you're referring to really need a place to vent their bad takes, because the bad takes they happen to have is that 1. They're attractive and 2. Women can't sexually harass because refer to point 1. It's the simplest logic in the world, nothing to discuss. If anything, those types of women don't self reflect at all, let alone disect things on public forums.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/24 07:35 PM
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Absolutely fine to have that standard, very respectable.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/24 10:01 AM
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Just imitating men here 💅
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/24 08:26 AM
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Maybe pick a better woman next time, always shifting accountability. Choose better.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/24 06:16 AM
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The illusion of being endlessly desired, of being able to get a high quality guy for a relationship and of options never running out. Pair this with a culture of idolizing independence and casual sex, that's very formative for an impressionable mind. Reality will only be discovered through bitter experience but by then its too late. While women have to be accountable no matter what, men also need to be accountable for how damaging they are when they pump and dump. It's unfair that only one party…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/24 01:08 AM
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The weed smoker can stop smoking and get a job, your analogy isn't that great, though I see your point. Also hoardes of men pursuing you when you're young and dumb can create quite the illusion.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/24 11:33 PM
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I'm not against that personally, seems like a good idea.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/24 11:21 PM
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Women are against paternity tests because they feel hurt and disrespected by being accused of cheating
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/24 10:21 PM
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The last part is such a downer that it puts a massive dark cloud over the good things. Why on earth would I want a picture perfect life but always feel sad and empty? I would rather be single.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/24 10:04 PM
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She probably doesn't like sex though
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/24 09:45 PM
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Inexperience can be rectified, unlike high N women who are allegedly permanently ruined.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/24 09:44 PM
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You're pro arranged marriage?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/24 09:43 PM
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You're projecting your own motivations. It's men who historically kept their low N wife at home barefoot and pregnant while banging 'loose' women on the side. We see you.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/24 09:41 PM
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Lol move along, I don't really care. I have listened to unsolicited gender bullshit for years and haven't said anything, the one time I do it gets pointed out to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/24 01:22 AM
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I guess I just find endless hysterical fixation on a frivolous topic annoying. I'm venting. I'm free to say so, and you're free to respond, or not!
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/24 12:17 AM
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I don't have a problem with men who are attracted to other men whatsoever, I'm bi too so it doesn't phase me one bit. It's actually really hot, like straight men watching lesbians if you want me to draw a comparison.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/24 05:55 AM
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This has never happened to me because for whatever reason I can tell if someone's interest is shallow. It's much more obvious when the guys interests are very different, but you can see it in guys in a similar milieu when they are merely trying to take advantage of proximity.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/24 05:50 AM
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I hope you feel better soon :( This is indeed a pretty toxic place that needs to be avoided if feeling fragile
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/24 05:47 AM
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If you just stare at someone and not say anything they become uncomfortably aware of their own bullshit and disrespect.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/02/24 01:50 PM
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And it's working, very very well, because people are fucking dumb. It's like watching a drunken bar fight.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/02/24 01:45 PM
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Let's ignore them
/r/PurplePillDebate29/02/24 01:35 PM
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Heterosexuality is selected for because that's what makes babies so it will never go to the bottom unless people begin lying to themselves and each other to be cool/ maintain harmony. Can't wait for this obsession with gender identity and sexual preference to be over, I'm so tired. Why don't people just go and live their lives?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/02/24 01:30 PM
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Of course status matters for men, not sure why you even have to ask. For the record I've seen enough reports of enough women who became permanently disillusioned with men (and society in general) when they lost weight/glowed up. I even notice differences in how I'm treated from the type of shirt I wear. People are so shallow generally speaking, and the opportunistic types (which is not everyone) are not backward in coming forward. It's so ingrained in people that even my 'nice guy' ex treated me…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/02/24 05:44 AM
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Investigative journalism is still very much in need though
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/24 11:07 AM
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I dont like to remember bad things like that, I pretend they didn't happen most of the time, water of a ducks back.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/24 12:34 AM
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Because your behaviour is somewhat anachronistic people may read other traits into it that you may or may not have, and that's not helpful for your dating success in the modern era.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/24 09:45 PM
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It sounds like you are very self aware so I don't see there being any problem. You will likely attract a self aware partner too.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/24 07:49 AM
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I've never felt competitive with my man when he's had attention from other women, I don't get this mentality at all. I get competitive with other women but not with men. If he outshines me in male dominated spheres I'm happy as a clam. Maybe if he was better than me in every regard I would feel threatened, but then he would be out of my league and a bad match.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/24 07:42 AM
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That kind of chivalry is fun on a fancy date but over all it's really not necessary, like another poster said manners will do.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/24 07:39 AM
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Men having some feminine traits is quite natural, if he is comfortable displaying them it bodes well for his self confidence so I would say it's a good thing over all. As long as masculine traits are still dominant though.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/24 07:35 AM
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Your friends experience isnt the whole landscape, she sounds quite up market. Ask a streetwalker in Bumfuck nowhere the same question and you would get a different response. My response was tongue in cheek anyway, because it's dumb to label a whole group of people that way. Not all prostitutes are dumb and lazy, just like not all johns are.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/24 10:26 PM
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Please don't put people needing shoes on the same level as fucking exploited prostitutes. I get both are bad if the shoes aren't made ethically, but only one of them is necessary. And yes my ex partner had the same values, that's why we were together for so long (among other things). I'm very turned off by unnecessary consumption. No we are not all monsters when we are living in a system that makes it hard to do the right thing in regard to basic necessities. Living in that system doesn't then e…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/24 11:59 AM
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I try to buy as little as possible for that reason, all my furniture is second hand and my wardrobe is very sparse, I wear clothes until they fall apart, especially shoes. I could probably do better but I try. And I don't literally fuck the exploited party.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/24 11:19 AM
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A lot of homeless men are just unlucky. Your thinking is very simplistic.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/24 07:54 AM
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You just went and made a bunch of assumptions about points I never made. OP focused exclusively on looks correlating with self esteem, I'm making the point that it's too narrow, character is also important. Ofcourse top men have the pick of the litter. But being a top man isn't purely a function of self esteem either. Self esteem is also refusing to be treated poorly, so for the men who dont have unlimited options (99% of them) choosing a kinder but less attractive partner might be the higher se…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/24 07:31 AM
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I mean it's a little slow but still not that bad at this point. I'm 38 thought, 22 just seems really young to me, but what 22 year olds tend to do is mercilessly judge and compare themselves so I don't blame you for having issues.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/24 07:19 AM
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It doesn't seem out of the ordinary to me, still very young.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/24 06:19 AM
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What about men who value character over looks? For example would prefer the loyal and kind 7 over a sociopathic 9?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/24 05:46 AM
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Just like the men who visit them.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/24 05:42 AM
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Most men here want neither option it seems.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/24 04:59 AM
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I've already made my points for the 1% case, I don't need to repeat myself. I'm just debunking your dumb reasoning about why feminists hate men who buy sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/24 04:13 AM
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In your fist example you're referring to like 1% of cases or less so not that relevant over all. But if the consenting adults go into it with eyes open and everything on the table then whatever, knock yourselves out. Where's the love though? Is that a thing? Is there a heart somewhere in there or just a wallet and bean counting. Your second point about prostitution being available as a port in the storm of the desperate... That would be OK if this kind of work wasn't hurting them further. It's l…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/24 04:06 AM
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Feminists hate men who pay for sex because the majority of women doing sex work are doing it because of some kind of duress, poverty, desperation, addiction and trafficking, and this work damages them further. Not all but a huge majority. Men who willingly participate in this trade are financing exploitation and suffering, whether they realise it or not. Very often these men realise just simply don't care. It's vile. This doesn't really count for sugar baby/daddy relationships though. That's mor…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/24 03:56 AM
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TikTok is just showing you what you like, it's an algorithm.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/24 10:21 AM
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No, it's more of a chemistry thing. I've had objectively super hot guys hit on me that I've felt nothing for. The chemistry will make a guy stand out even if he's average or what not. Where does chemistry come from and why? Who knows? I don't see it discussed in this sub at all. Elaborating on that point I simply don't get romantic feelings for women, they have to be objectively hot for me to feel physically attracted. Am I truly bi or am I just an average woman enjoyer? I don't know. But I pref…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/24 10:20 AM
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I'm sorry but that just sounds so wrong, are you referring to children or animals?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/24 10:03 AM
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As a bi woman that resonates heavily with what you have said I gotta say men are irreplaceable. They might not look the most physically appealing visually, actually getting laid by a guy is 👌. Dicks are great and masculine energy and larger physical size... There's no substitute. I look at women in porn way more but I crave a guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/24 08:41 AM
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I think that the fact people still seek stable relationships and start families in the face of endless distraction is a testament to how innately powerful those drives are, and that they can't ever be fully snuffed out. In the west we are seeing a return to traditional values from the most surprising quarters, because as always nature seeks to balance itself. In that vein too much tradition breeds rebellion. Zoom out and it's not all that bad.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/24 11:57 AM
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I can birth you children the likes of which you've never seen, ones that can strangle bears with their bare hands. Is that better?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/24 11:44 AM
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You should have been born gay
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/24 11:24 AM
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I'm curious what you want a woman to bring to the table?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/24 11:21 AM
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It really depends on the mental health and maturity of the group if this dynamic is beneficial or not I agree. Often it's a bucket of crabs phenomenon. But whether it is healthy or not, it serves to cover emotional needs and these become less urgent to fulfill through a relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/24 01:51 AM
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Yep this is the one. That and female friends that meet emotional needs.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/24 12:24 PM
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I appreciate your compassion, it means a lot. Unfortunately you can't really change bad people but in terms of workplace culture for example I think it's needed that men stand up for themselves and point out to these women that it's not OK. It might get laughed off or shut down at first but I don't think you should let it go, even if that's the temptation just to not cause any conflict. Even saying something like "is it my turn to grab your ass now? Cool! No? Why not? Then don't do it to me." Or…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/24 07:25 AM
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Women are attracted what they are attracted to, but they also don't trust men to make the right decisions with her wellbeing in mind. It takes A LOT of trust and safety to enter this kind of arrangement, and it's quite rare to find someone with the maturity to be the kind of leader a woman could safely follow. People are selfish, short sighted, and much of the RP narrative is adversarial, they portray women as exploitative and ruthless, and so an entity that needs to be controlled and exploited …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/24 10:44 PM
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Believe it or not rapists seek bathrooms out, it's not random chance
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/24 11:08 AM
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Ok sure, it's culture then. I'm aware that Islam is expressed differently in different places. Mohamed is still a pedo though, sorry, culture can't defend that. Still doesnt justify war though, not remotely. I'm horrified and disgusted about all the atrocities.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/24 09:09 AM
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I also feel uncomfortable in the gym with the guys and their guns out. I get uncomfortable when they come to my work place and their arm pit hair is my face height. Of course you can't control others, but I thought we were talking about civilized society where people behave in diplomatic ways, respecting the comfort of others in the same way as they want to be respected. I have seen labia flaps through nano thick sweaty fabric, put some shorts on. I don't want to see a scrotum outline either, th…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/24 08:13 AM
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Being part of a civilised society is being mindful of making other people uncomfortable with 'too much information'. Like I don't want to see all the details of your ass thank you. And sometimes crotch, I don't want to see what you had for breakfast, I'm trying to be professional. Lingerie is for private wear not for public spaces. I don't want to accidentally gaze upon the folds of your labia in the gym, yuck.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/24 07:56 AM
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My ex likes the sex but says he doesn't want to be tempted by strange women's tatas. Which is kind of fair enough because as a bi woman too much exposed female flesh makes me feel uncomfortable (same with male flesh too though, if it's attractive)
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/24 07:53 AM
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Well that's a really sad example and I'm sorry that it happens. I relate to it, I'm in my late 30s and not planning to date again.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/24 07:42 AM
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Yeah I can see that happening with mean girl cliques, and it's really gross. I've also heard stories from male strippers and they have to deal with things that would trigger security for their female colleagues. But zooming out I think the real issue is violent crime, not just rudeness and disrespect. I wonder if you ever felt in danger when you had your ass slapped etc, because for a woman it's instant fear and cortisol spike. It's not just the ass grab it's the fact of physical vulnerability o…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/24 07:16 AM
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Yeah I get what you're saying. I'm trying really hard to think of examples and I could only come up with restrictions due to what men have done or just plain sexism(see my comment above about the Muslim world and female infanticide). I can see why you think women are as sexually depraved from your experiences but I don't think a bachelorette party is a good example, that's such an uncommon event. I also think women are generally less sexually pent up due to lower libidos. You appear to be surrou…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/24 05:37 AM
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What you bring up is absolutely wrong and the culture on this needs to change. Even male rape is under reported. The only counter argument I have is that women don't tend to rape men in public spaces in bathrooms as far as I'm aware, it's far more difficult to accomplish physically, where as men do. But I'm open to being educated on this point. While ass grabbing/slapping is absolutely is wrong there are degrees of sexual assault and men take the crown on that one with what they are capable of t…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/24 05:15 AM
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Through out the Muslim world women are restricted in their movements in public. Being chaperoned by a male relative and only to certain spaces etc. And it's not even because of what women have done, it's just they are blamed for men not being able to control themselves. They also get punished if they are raped. In other parts of the world women are excluded from life because boy babies are more valuable than girls, so they get thrown in the dumpster. I don't think they earned that one either but…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/24 05:05 AM
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Could you give some examples of common antisocial acts women commit in public?On par with sexual assault preferably? Then you can illustrate your point really well.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/24 05:01 AM
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Really? I'm really THAT special? Why thank you. But seriously watch any good romcom and you will see what I mean.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/24 12:54 AM
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It's my personal experience and not lies, because why would I lie? If I'm not attracted to the guy it's off putting but if I already like him and he's nervous it means he likes me back, why would I not like that?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/24 08:38 PM
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Women aren't repelled by signs of nervousness in a man she likes. It's exciting and romantic.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/24 07:25 PM
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You're expecting the average woman to be as horny as an average man. That's not going to happen. Men are as horny as they are to drive them to compete in a very difficult market. Women are wired to be very picky because pregnancy birth and infancy is so incredibly costly. You can shake your fist at the sky that's fair, I'm sure it's not easy to face. Just like I shook my first at the sky while squeezing a baby through my vagina and all that preceded and followed. We all have our crosses to bear.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/24 08:48 AM
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What I see women say is that men don't put enough effort into their presentation. They want men to match them in grooming and fashion. Women know how powerful this stuff is. This isn't my personal opinion, I don't need a man to jump through these hoops because I'm lower maintenance than the average girl but I hear this said often. There's something to be said for a man that smells good I gotta say. Not oversprayed but clean smelling with a little tasteful fragrance 😍.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/24 08:39 AM
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I would tell him to see a hypnosis practitioner, his own subconscious limiting beliefs are standing in his way since there's nothing actually wrong with him. Probably some negative early childhood programming at play.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/24 12:51 AM
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Women who are attracted to bad boys are attracted to strength and confidence, not the asshole traits specifically. The good traits women crave are unfortunately more common in psychopathic men than average men who haven't been raised correctly by their fathers. TRP is an attempt to emulate that strong upbringing, but it's a bit warped because it's partially based on bitterness. In a society where men are routinely strong confident and masculine, women don't have to stoop to dark triad miscreants…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/24 11:55 PM
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As a product of a 'tankie' society (USSR) government assigned wives is a new one lol. How do you think those marriages will go, do you think the man in that is going to have a good time? (we already know the woman will hate it). Do you think the children will have healthy formative development? Do you think the children will want to perpetuate this system having been damaged by it? It will all fall. I understand you're trying to think of ways to prevent an incel take over but emulating them is n…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/24 11:45 PM
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*had lol, and I'm not saying they were real problems.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/24 11:17 AM
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A man who is more established and seasoned is more attractive I won't lie. And physically men start to peak in their late 20s imho so I can understand the earlier dating life not being as satisfying as later on. I got an uncomfortable amount of attention as a young woman and I wasn't even that hot, kind of relieved that it's over to be honest. It's flattering but also a disconcerting feeling to be watched and checked out everywhere you go. I wished I was invisible often.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/24 11:01 AM
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I'm 38 and while I don't get as much attention as I used to it doesn't really bother me. I'm already a mother and I'm not looking to lock down a man for that kind of commitment. I prefer older men so in a way I will always be the younger woman anyway. A funny thing does happen though when I wear tight tops (which I avoid now), I get young men get all flustered and it's honestly awkward. I guess I'm Mrs Robinson to them now? I hear it would be super easy to get some casual sex but that's just not…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/24 10:42 AM
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Ok well that explains why you're having the experience that you are, you're in the thick of the party crowd. Women who don't want to engage in it disappear off your radar. I think that you have a very skewed perception of how wider society works, because what you have described seems quite extreme.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/24 09:55 AM
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That's a fair point in theory. But ... As a woman that prefers older men.... my father was abusive and I'm autistic. Just saying.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/24 09:40 PM
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People are different so I don't know if I can give blanket advice but generally speaking be respectful of the phase of life she's in and lessons and experiences she needs to have first hand to develop. Don't poo poo activities and mindsets because you've already 'been there and done that'. Try to be excited with her to try those things you've probably done a thousand times already. Disapproval, ( sometimes even if subtle depending on how sensitive she is) will translate into her either rebelling…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/24 11:16 PM
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Sigh. Always conveniently ignoring the adult that does the exploiting, like it makes it OK to do if you found an inexperienced rube. It's legally OK but it's a shitty thing to do. Why is that so hard for you to comprehend? Pick on someone your own size, or at least reasonably similar. Expecting people to wake up on the morning of their 18th birthday and having all the life skills and wisdom of someone 20yrs older is just completely laughable. People continue to grow and mature. You want young wo…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/24 10:52 PM
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It's a spectrum. At the extremes it's potentially destructive. Like I said gaps aren't always problematic, but the bigger they are the higher the chances become something is seriously wrong. Like I don't blame the rich 35 yr old for going for a 25yr old, she's probably hotter and more available. When it breaks the half the older persons age +7 rule, it's getting messy.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/24 10:34 AM
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Where did you get that from. I don't think it should be outlawed but it's as dumb and harmful as smoking and drinking etc. Legal, as it should be, but stupid. You'd hope that the realisation hits by 37.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/24 07:30 AM
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When I was 21 I was in a relationship with a 37yr old man. It was NOT equal, I just didn't realise what a raw deal I was getting as I was too young, I couldn't advocate for myself where I should have, he usually had his way. Now I'm 38 and the idea of dating a 21yr old is just so gross, like dating a child mentally. It's not pedophelia sexualy ofcourse, but it's exploitative. Not every age gap is a problem but the odds go way up.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/24 01:49 AM
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Oh sure, for about 7 years out of a lifespan of 8 decades. Very easy to meet for a short window until it's impossible for the rest of the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/24 09:20 PM
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Not being attracted to short men or fat women isn't a moral failing, but putting people down because they have a trait you're not attracted to very much is a moral failing. When I say women are taking revenge I'm not excusing it, it's not somehow better than what men have done. It's abhorrent behaviour that needs to stop, it's a tit for tat response of the lowest kind. Two wrongs don't make a right. I'm just highlighting how women are really no different than men in this regard, there's scumbags…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/24 09:18 PM
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If you go and read OPs post more carefully she's referring to the narrative on this sub, it's in the parenthesis in the second sentence.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/24 03:35 AM
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Instead of acknowledging that I did this very thing you want in my response you keep on bitching. EVERY ONE MUST AGREE WITH ME SHAKES FIST AT SKY. That's NEVER going to happen period, but the way you conduct yourself you're making that possibility even more remote, because the way you express your views just elicits opposition. Learn to be a tad more diplomatic and you might find you're more successful in influencing how other people perceive the situation.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/24 03:25 AM
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You've lost the point. The post is actually about the claim that women are loved unconditionally, and there have been loads of highly upvoted posts on PPD about this. I cant be bothered linking it. If you use the same logic that men use in these very popular posts you get the equal and opposite response of women are loved only if they provide sex. And you think that's a dumb statement, great, you're actually in agreement with me and OP (of this post).
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/24 03:19 AM
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What do you want me to say? Yeah women have the current top place in shaming men. Men are fighting to get their formerly top spot back through. You want me to somehow see men as innocent victims? Lol no. Or maybe I should point out not all women/men do this? But that doesn't matter because you're thriving off of the outrage in your veins. Go for a run or something.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/24 03:11 AM
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You know I've never seen you so much as attempt to find any common ground or concede even the most minor point. You're emotionally so entrenched in your polarised views is pointless trying to debate anything with you. Tate is notorious the way that feminists used to be. Zoom out a little and watch the failings of human nature, that in this case, apply equally to both sexes.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/24 03:07 AM
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Andrew Tate is mainstream yes, but there's a whole bunch of men of the same ilk with hundreds of thousands of views. I didn't even look them up, they came up as suggestions in my feed, and I search for completely unrelated topics. Maybe I liked a couple of Jordan Peterson shorts and that set it of idk? So I see your point, it's NOT equal but it isn't a landslide either and the pendulum swings over time. Look at some old school Hollywood films and how women are portrayed and spoken too.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/24 02:57 AM
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And its not like I never loved any of my partners, that's what men often claim, that only women are loved, men are expendable etc. By the standard used in that argument men do the exact same thing as women. They like to say they get sent off to be killed on wars etc while conveniently ignoring the sex trafficking of women etc. It's short sighted and lame victim consciousness.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/24 02:48 AM
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I see both sides of the debate have their moment in the sun regularly, and in more mainstream forums. I don't have TikTok but go have a look at YouTube shorts or something. Also you have to consider that the admittedly fairly extreme fat acceptance movement is reactionary to the brutal level of bullying of fat women by men (and everyone really) for generations. Now I see women put down short men for example, but really it's just a popularized form of revenge. Men have historically objectified a …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/24 02:43 AM
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Don't worry men who openly shame back have hit the mainstream too. Maybe time to stop acting like the victim all the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/24 02:40 AM
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Do women not love their male family members? Women are loved unconditionally when they're 18-25, fit and up for it. Which I'm sure you see is actually as conditional as it gets.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/24 02:37 AM
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Men still have and act on those preferences while internally bitching about female preferences. No one enjoys the experience of not measuring up, let's just admit that. Also the manosphere content is actually hitting mainstream media now, it's very easy for the algorithm to give you this content constantly with millions of views. It's not obscure anymore.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/24 02:30 AM
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I mean sure, but it shows what men really think even if they are being more censored than women in more public spaces.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/24 02:28 AM
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Absolutely, the amount of salt about height, income and 'betta Bux alpha fucks' on here is no different to the fat acceptance movement. It's always funny when people rage at others faults but are completely oblivious they do the exact same thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/24 01:57 AM
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What's with the assumption that its not an active life? You don't see life beyond a career for the purpose of paying the bills, is that all that exists? I really regret using that particular word honestly, it's not supposed to indicate complete passivity and lack of agency.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/24 09:32 PM
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You had a choice to stay home, that's what I mean. Many women are forced back to work before they even recover. Not everyone is you is you either. Also I was countering the argument that staying home is lazy, and clearly it's very hard no? I also found it hard to deal with and prefer part time work, it honestly feels like a holiday when I do my shifts. Hope that clears that up a little for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/24 09:24 PM
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If you reread my comment you will see I said it can only happen in complete safety, and this is super rare, which is not much different to what you're saying. Anyway I shouldn't have used that word, it's too loaded. My point is a lot men want something without providing the conditions for making that possible, just like OP is pointing out some women do that too.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/24 06:11 PM
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How on earth do you know what cave women wanted? Just lol. You can't imagine someone liking staying indoors to cook? Am I not a woman? Are you trolling?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/24 12:55 PM
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I don't know how you got any of that. Maybe go to bed now so you can sober up for work tomorrow ok?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/24 12:09 PM
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I don't agree that femininity is not natural. It's not the default for all, there's a wide range of expression but I believe that the bigger majority of a particular gender naturally leans towards stereotypical traits purely due to sex hormone differences. These norms didn't come out of nowhere. I was brought up with egalitarian conditioning that took years to identify where and why it felt uncomfortable to me in some areas. It was actually hard to accept for me that I'm actually naturally prett…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/24 11:28 AM
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Submissiveness wasn't the best term I agree, there's a better word surely, maybe receptivity?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/24 11:21 AM
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Submissiveness is not helplessness or laziness. It's letting the man take care of the worldly shit so the woman can pour energy into the home and the children. Mothering takes endless energy and presence, especially in the early years. If the mother is taken care of ultimately it's the kids that benefit the most. Those first 1000 days are crucial. But hard to see beyond personal gain in this society I get it. In any case even in this set up many if not most women would choose to have a professio…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/24 11:19 AM
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Well that's good for you, you have obviously found someone that shares your world view
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/24 10:00 AM
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I get my information from observation of human nature and considering many different perspectives over many years. You may not feel responsible for your partner, but this attitude puts you at risk of the attraction within your relationship dying out pretty quickly. Dead bedroom territory if you're not careful.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/24 08:53 AM
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Most women don't realise what an utter relief submission feels like when you have the prerequisite of safety. It sounds like you're losing something but the feeling is actually freedom and happiness. The sad thing is true safety is so rare that realisation is almost impossible to have. The safety aspect is mens job if that wasn't already clear.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/24 07:02 AM
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If you give a woman benevolent masculine provision and protection, the healthy response from her would be joyful submissive femininity. Both sides win. Alas both genders are sick and don't know what the ideal even looks like, let alone know the steps to get there and how to check their own bullshit in service of that. Both genders have cravings for the natural order of things but then bring their brainwashing and generational trauma into the equation to the point it's hard to figure out what's w…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/24 06:51 AM
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They are being PC out of social pressure, no one actually wants to look like her.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/24 09:42 AM
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Your view of the past is very skewed. No one was asking anyone's father for anything (post the contraceptive pill in the 60s anyway), people still hooked up on the down low, and the popular guys were known to be players with options, while more average guys struggled and took what they could get. Of course things these days are FAR FAR more exaggerated, but it was never an even playing field.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/23 10:24 AM
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I don't know, the messaging I've received was that it's prudish and frigid to not want to bone every five minutes and I was very insecure about this as a teen, since demisexual describes me pretty well in a general sense. I felt like something was wrong with me, it took me quite a long time to unlearn that, but I'm from the Sex and the City generation. Male sexuality was held up as the standard that women should aspire too. If you weren't participating in casual sex then you weren't a liberated …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/23 02:20 AM
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I think it was Jordan Peterson that pointed out that girls are drawn to living creatures and boys are attracted to things. Definitely true in my children, my daughter is obsessed with stuffed animals, any thing with big eyes basically, while my son is all about cars. Those differences were there from when they were babies. So no, it's definitely not about just physical strength, our brains are wired to see the world differently. For me I have to admit I'm attracted to men's greater proficiency w…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/23 08:49 PM
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Holy crap what a light bulb moment, I'm neurodivergent and also prefer older men.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/23 08:42 PM
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Aren't you hallowed creatures supposed to be better than us at this? What gives? Are you a woman? You continue to do the very thing you deride women for, it's projection 101.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/23 09:36 PM
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Yeah, men have children they feel 'meh' about and then complain that comes with consequences. Maybe don't have children if you feel 'meh' about it? Where's the accountability there?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/23 07:50 AM
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No one is a hero here. If you want women to have sex with you put in some work to make it worth their while. If you have medical issues with your penis, go get some medical help. If you're feeling distressed, get a counselor. Shit or get off the pot. I have no sympathy for someone who refuses to see anyone's point of view but their own. The irony is red pillers call women solipsistic, and yet come out with this bullshit. We don't want to have sex with you, we're not that horny, we might if you h…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/23 07:10 AM
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Go see a breech birth and an emergency C section and then tell me who is winning and loosing. Tutorial mode for real, ejaculate and done. And then whine about the inequalities of sex. Lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/23 05:34 AM
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Having sex with entitled men is a chore for sure
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/23 05:23 AM
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The party who wants to do the activity more, and who gets more pleasure out of the activity, should also put more effort into that activity so the other party can have a chance of enjoying it too. Though women should absolutely learn what gives them pleasure and speak up about it, no one is a mind reader. But yeah of course the higher libido partner needs to work more. Stop pretending shit is equal. And if a man can't cum, women tend to feel really hurt by that because they generally feel it's b…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/23 03:27 AM
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The pattern you're noticing is probably the result of high oestrogen on the woman's personality and therefore her likelihood of participating in casual sex, not her fertility, since birth control is widely available. High oestrogen women are very emotional, something that's not conducive to the detachment required to bed hop. They tend to get more heavily involved and attached to one particular man, so yes of course harder to sleep with for some random guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/23 03:11 AM
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It's completely over valued in the west, and we in turn get programmed that we need it. If we weren't programmed this way it would have far less prominence in our lives. In my experience romantic complications actually ruin relationships between people that otherwise could have enjoyed and appreciated each other.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/23 07:24 PM
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So you get my point
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/23 06:26 AM
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Romantic love is so extremely overrated in the west. It might have temporary highs but it's bound to dissipate, disappoint or down right damage other life areas due to poor decisions in it's name. Romantic love is not actual love at all, it's an addictive high. You seem to have put it on a pedestal due to lack of relationship experience but please believe I've experienced far more love from family, friends and pets than I have from romantic partners. That is not to say that real love isn't possi…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/23 04:39 AM
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Most people grow out of idolizing fuckboys
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/23 04:28 AM
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Ofcourse, it's just human nature
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/23 04:31 AM
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It's the equivalent of ruining your palate with dessert before a main meal, there is a reason your mother yelled at you not to do that. But the social landscape has been so overtaken by OLD it's hard to be wholesome even when aware of this.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/23 10:12 PM
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I got shit done, I'm the cackling hag on the other side of getting shit done, if you don't want to hear the perspectives of your elders then go make your own mistakes ✌️ pro tip, getting angry at women won't attract any.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/23 04:12 AM
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Look, if you had hundreds of women without photos begging for your attention, without the typical male libido to motivate you, you would also stall. Or you might choose to pick out of the 10% with the super sexy voice idk. It's called choice blindness in the face of too many options without enough necessary actual data. At no point in history have we had such an insanely jacked set up before. Nothing about this is natural. Getting pissy at women in lieu of having a rational discussion doesn't ex…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/23 03:38 AM
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Ok then we are adults, and all you men are gross apparently. Happy now?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/23 03:12 AM
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When there are adverse social outcomes for one gender but not the other to following a natural biological activity, the losing gender is absolutely entitled to pointing it out as unfair. In this case the gender bearing the greater biological burden needs to have the greater social and material support to compensate. Historically women have been treated as the inferior gender because of this dynamic, hence the scam accusation.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/23 01:58 AM
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Internet profiles have to be extreme to turn women on. I hate that I have to point this out but I was of age in the "before times", women need face to face interaction to feel a man out. Blame the game not the player in this case
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/23 01:53 AM
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Did your read OPs post? I love it how men here love to point the finger if accountability, but can't do it for themselves. So you think it's OK when older men predate on high school age girls, and manipulate them into coersive and abusive dynamics? Is that OK? Should men be entitled to do anything they fucking want with impunity? You're such a hypocrite.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/23 08:58 PM
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I think it's the opposite of obsession, keep that shit to yourselves, stop detailing other people's lives for your nut. I don't give a shit if you masturbate for the majority of the day. I do give a shit if that contributes to an industry that ruins other people's lives.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/23 08:51 PM
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Sure, things aren't perfect. But they are so much better than they used to be.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/23 08:48 PM
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I never said everyone has a conscience. You don't even bother considering other people if something isn't in it for you. You probably represent the majority, which is why the world is so fucked.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/23 08:44 PM
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I know this is happening in the US, and I'm against MAGA, they aren't sane people. If ever there was a group that lacked more critical thinking it's them. I was more speaking on a global scale, and I'm not sure about the voting age. I just don't think it's right to be able to have a path were kids finish school and go straight to porn or killing people.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/23 08:41 PM
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You really know something is wrong with someone when they get triggered by being told not to violently degrade. It's not a victimless crime my dude, and something is seriously broken inside you. Destructive people get sectioned and incarcerated. Stop trying to control men? Go fuck off to your anarchist dreamland and be careful not to get curb stomped by someone bigger than you
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/23 09:35 AM
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https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prostitution_in_Australia The last paragraph in the Human Trafficking section
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/23 09:24 AM
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Then take the US as an example, if it's possible once it can be repeated. I'm well aware the problem persists globally.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/23 09:04 AM
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No I can't agree, 18yr Olds are dumb as hell, there's a lot of development that happens between 18 and 21.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/23 08:14 AM
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You should make a post out of this, I think it warrants discussion.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/23 08:12 AM
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How am I doing that now? Maybe stop coercing women into your bullshit, do it to each other.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/23 04:53 AM
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And it should be 21 (in porn). But I think men should be 21 to be allowed to join the military too. High risk occupations like that should be barred from teens.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/23 04:10 AM
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You're inserting a completely different argument into this post, it wasn't about who has it worse. We actually weren't discussing difficulties men face at all, which is a big topic of course (and I think it's more societal break down than individuals fault). Go ahead and make your own post on that subject. Also, two wrongs don't make a right. Just because you think some porn star out there might not care about lonely men, doesn't mean that we should stop caring about exploited teens. Both lonely…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/23 03:45 AM
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The brain is more powerfully rewired when sexual arousal is involved, that's my perhaps not scientific opinion. Also there might be legitimate expressions of violence but I don't believe that is the case within sexual activity. I don't think watching a war movie, or even one about sexual violence is the same as watching violent porn.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/23 03:35 AM
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I care about those men, though I see what you mean because plenty of women don't. Where this gap tends to come from is it's easier to emphasise with those most similar to ourselves. I'm sure there are lots of lonely men who don't give a toss that the 18yr old they're jerking it to is high on drugs just to cope, and is doing porn only because she was coerced by her abusive older boyfriend. There is a general lack of empathy in the world.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/23 02:13 AM
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I think it still needs to have limits about violence and degradation because viewing this content sets new social norms.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/23 01:33 AM
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Some people care about the wellbeing of others, meanwhile other people can't comprehend it and assign erroneous selfish motives.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/23 01:30 AM
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We got the slavery genie back in the bottle
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/23 01:28 AM
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Making porn illegal will have the same effect as the prohibition. It needs to be regulated. Similar to how countries that have legalised prostitution have better outcomes for sex workers, as long as regulation is in place.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/23 01:27 AM
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No women are women. Children are children. Hard maths to crunch for you obviously.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/23 01:16 AM
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So it's not about logic, it's about you caring about jerking off to teens.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/23 01:14 AM
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That will drive it underground and make it more dangerous. It needs to be tightly regulated and overseen by an external body.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/23 01:11 AM
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You can close your eyes, put your hand on your dick and fantasize. The objects of your fantasies shouldn't have to come to harm to get you off.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/23 01:09 AM
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People who are fine with this place sexual gratification over empathy. Arguing with them is a lost cause.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/23 01:08 AM
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The porn industry isn't about feminism, it's predatory and abusive. For every empowered female performer there's at least 10 who are used and abused then discarded. It's a coersive exploitative industry. Not really a healthy place for young inexperienced women is it? Your white knighting is so out of place.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/23 01:04 AM
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Some men only care about sex all of the time. All men only care about sex some of the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/23 03:52 AM
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I think there's probably a middle ground that most people reside in and you're at an extreme end of the spectrum. Your end is far better than the people who shack up with those they don't have any physical chemistry with, that is just doomed to fail.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/23 04:08 AM
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You don't want a woman who talks to 50 guys, it's highly unlikely even 5 of them are giving her quality attention, and if she doesn't have the discernment to realise that she's probably racked up the numbers from being used. If you want to pump and dump (shame on you, low life degenerate) go ahead and compete for her attention though, that's all you deserve.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/23 08:23 PM
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Had to look this up, it's stunning 🤤
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/23 08:42 PM
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$250-$500 for a lifetime purchase is rich?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/23 08:46 AM
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I don't think OP said anywhere that you're required to buy a traditional ring, it's an option for those desiring to do that. But yeah if a woman makes demands run for the hills. I don't think a minimum standard of quality is being demanding, that's more "I want X number of your monthly salary" that's offensive.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/23 08:33 AM
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Good practical advice. I will also add diamonds are a complete rip off, a marketing ploy from the early 20th century. But if you want to go for one get a manufactured one, they are identical, except for not being anointed with the blood of slaves.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/23 08:29 AM
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Yes as long he's not as feminine as me, just masculine to the degree that I'm feminine. Sounds great tbh. I also think women and men get judged by different criteria so I would want his strengths and weaknesses to reflect those gender norms. Your example of your friends equal being broke isn't really valid as men generally aren't bothered by this anywhere near as much as women, especially if the girl is beautiful. It should translate more to average looking girl = average income/status guy and s…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/23 08:46 PM
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Just admit that in this issue both genders are essentially the same. The only difference is that women are left holding the baby most of the time, and men get congratulated for the same strategy women get berated for. Sure it sucks to feel settled for looks wise, but BOTH genders do it, why is it only women get shat on for it? And when a person matures they are actually flattered that they were picked and loved for their whole person and not the flesh suit that will decay anyway. Do you think on…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/23 02:59 AM
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No, what I'm saying these women learn that good character is just as desirable the hard way, just like many men have to in their younger years. Through bitter experience of lack they gain direct and visceral appreciation of character and become very attracted to that. They have had the good looking guy without substance and found him lacking. Should women be insulted that some men rather wife up an average looking girl with great character over a model who's a bitch? Which is exactly the attitud…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/23 11:57 PM
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Oof, imagine advertising that, no shame
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/23 06:54 AM
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Your solution is pragmatic but it also completely let's the guy off the hook, and long term that's highly destructive to the fabric of society. You should hold manly man summits and hold each other accountable.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/23 06:51 AM
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God forbid men provision for women like they're meant to, what an insult 🙄.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/23 06:46 AM
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I'm confused why you guys can't simply agree it's both. BOTH. It's highly immature to point the finger at the other gender when it takes two to make a baby.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/23 06:44 AM
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Perhaps 'better man' in this instance reflects a change in values after having a child? Every parent knows that their entire world view changed, the rose coloured glasses came off. Maybe tall and good looking just doesn't cut it anymore? Especially if he bailed and she came face to face with the consequences of ignoring character for looks.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/23 05:34 AM
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Look up attachment styles, you seem to have the avoidant one. People with avoidant attachment tend to attract people with anxious attachment, and the dance begins. I think a lot of things will click into place for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/23 08:58 AM
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This is so not true it's hilarious. The men will trip over themselves to lock down a 10, tolerating henious behaviour from her, giving her gifts for merely existing. They might fuck the four but then bail, treat her with contempt and make fun of her behind her back even when she's a sweet loving person. Don't try to convince me otherwise, I've seen enough, my friends have seen enough. It's not remotely the same out there for a 4 vs a 10. Men might fuck anything but that's not really reassuring, …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/23 05:29 PM
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None of what you bring up applies to me. I have never slept with guys above me (evidenced by the fact that I got commitment each time) and I've never dolled myself up to the point of looking like a different person. I also didn't grow up in the age of social media, filters weren't invented yet, and online dating was only for the weirdos. Still I and all of my friends still had these issues. Why is it so hard to believe that when your value as a woman is defined by foremost appearance, and you ar…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/23 05:08 AM
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I could have told you this 20 years ago at the ripe old age of 18. I have also mentioned it several times on this sub and every time men just couldn't wrap their heads around it and got angry at me. What do you honestly expect when men are training their eyes on hundreds of super hot women in every stage of undress and anal prolapse in HD, and now available in VR! Makes the average woman feel like a hideous beast. Who wants desperate pity sex? How are we supposed to be turned on when feeling ugl…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/23 09:19 AM
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In my personal experience maybe like 10% or even less are sleazy. But I do have friends who seem to be magnets for them and all the creeps are brought out of the woodwork everywhere they go. They would give you a much higher percentage.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/23 06:53 AM
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Dude were talking about the reality of being penetrated against your will by someone double your size and potentially falling pregnant, or dying. Your virtue signalling (such as it is with you going for your preference of tits and ass anyway) is meaningless in this scenario. You aren't going to change my mind with arguments that omit a bunch of salient points, sorry.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/23 12:16 AM
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Why should I? Are you going to get your bias against ugly obese women in check?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/23 11:56 PM
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I'm applying biological realities women have a deep fear of, this isn't all just about logical fallacies dude. Speaking as a woman who actually has access to these thought processes directly and not just an outsiders view. Also if I were to be raped, it would have worse consequences to fall pregnant to someone with genetic defects. Children of an elite athlete vs Quasimodo have different survival potentials. Ugliness isn't just about aesthetics, we have a negative reaction to it because it shows…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/23 11:47 PM
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You're omitting sexual frustration resulting in aggression in your equation. That's a big factor to ignore. Ugly men don't have lower sexual needs but they get far less to nil opportunity.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/23 11:41 PM
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I might get flamed for this but ugly men have a higher likelihood of being desperate to get laid and thus more likely to get violent in order to do so. Attractive men are more likely to be satiated and take a rejection easier. Now obviously this is not true in every case, but when it comes to personal safety mammals look for patterns.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/23 10:57 PM
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I'll be honest I would have been freaked out and worried that he was going to rape me. These kinds of encounters cause adrenaline to spike and it takes quite a while to get over. He might have been someone I might have said yes to in another context maybe, but this approach is a categorical no.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/23 10:53 PM
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I wish we still had awards to give, you nailed it.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/23 12:42 AM
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Mens dating struggles can also be boiled down this way. Just be attractive and find a good woman. And if you have depression just cheer up. I hope you can see that this isn't particularly helpful, these issue are far more complicated than that.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/23 12:37 AM
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Yes but OPs argument is that women are actively trying to sabotage men. Anything men say can also be interpreted in that light, but this is a misguided thing to do. That was the point I was trying to make.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/23 12:29 AM
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Read it again but in caps
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/23 12:25 AM
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Your advice of be sweet, nice and feminine is woefully inadequate and completely misses a whole host of issues women face. And so back to square 1. In your case it's just a lack of understanding rather than effort. But thanks for trying. In fact I can make an argument that your advice is designed to actively sabotage women by implying any problems are their fault that they are not submissive enough, and they should enable bad and even abusive behaviour. So thanks for that. But I'm not going to a…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/23 12:20 AM
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This is just pure mummy issues. Do men give women advice to maximise their best interest? No. That doesn't mean they want women to fail, it's just a lack of effort and understanding.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/23 12:01 AM
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