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| 3 | Man declares himself woman to retire earlyThis story will only technically be PPD when the guy gets his pussy pass revoked and male status reinstated. | /r/PussyPassDenied | 15/02/22 04:49 AM |
| 1 | A mother writes of her sadness about what is happening to boys and young men.Thanks for conversing in good faith. Since you responded to me, I'll just tell you a little bit about why I think the superhero comment and your explanation about masculinity triggered some hostility here. I appreciate now that your intent wasn't to 'womansplain' but I think I can provide some helpful perspective. Men are faced with a double bind today in expressing their masculinity, by which I mean to some there is no choice a man can make that is strictly correct according to pop feminism. Fo… | /r/MensRights | 30/01/22 05:25 AM |
| 29 | Sophomore girl dumps coffee on a seniors head, then gets her head punched into a door.I see this a lot in these videos of girls starting shit. They walk away trying to look tough, but they're just extricating themselves from the violent situation they created like they think being mentally finished with it means there will be no repercussions. It's cowardly and narcissistic. | /r/PussyPassDenied | 29/01/22 10:42 AM |
| 23 | A mother writes of her sadness about what is happening to boys and young men.Imagine a man going into a feminist sub and 'mansplaining' to her about how to be a woman, and saying "my sister thinks women are exaggerating their problems and rolls her eyes when they complain". Saying that you can look to superheroes for examples of positive masculinity is more ironically funny and tone deaf than you can understand. | /r/MensRights | 29/01/22 10:32 AM |
| 9 | The way to raise men's right and awareness is not competing against women's and vise versa.It's this simple. I see men who are anti-feminist ocassionally, but more rare are men who are anti-equality, anti-women's rights or think women should all suffer terribly. They exist, but they are not the norm; you will not see any hashtag trending that implies all women are violent criminals. You will have a hard time finding men who think violence against women shouldn't be punished severely. However, feminists take it upon themselves to deny parity to men whenever possible. The draft is a fem… | /r/MensRights | 27/01/22 08:09 PM |
| 2 | Monkeys have officially dismantled the patriarchy according to this New York Times article. This is unprecedented in monkey culture. I can't believe this isn't an onion article.Now that the monkey patriarchy is dismantled, are the bananas all shared out equally? Is monkey violence at an end? | /r/MensRights | 27/01/22 07:53 PM |
| 1 | I don't understand this. Can someone explain it to me?"How can I make this about me?" | /r/MensRights | 27/01/22 07:42 PM |
| 3 | What do you guys think about the "male gaze"?"The male gaze" was originally intended to be commentary about visual art, and how from a certain point of view, it seems the focus will tend to emulate the 'male gaze'; e.g. sweep over a woman's hips and torso before focusing on her face. The way it's used now in the mainstream is just to punish men for looking at women at all. It's one of those concepts that is loosely valid from certain perspectives, and this loose validity is misapplied and generalized so that it can essentially be weaponize… | /r/MensRights | 24/01/22 08:24 PM |
| 4 | feminism complaining about being held to the same standards as everyone"Women are Wonderful" indeed. Even women think that women are all perfect saints and angels. Feminists think that they have a right not to feel certain ways. As if the fact that they're terrified about this or that means that someone else is therefore obligated to do something about it. This is patently ridiculous, since you can always just imagine a new thing to be scared of. And it's nice that you carry bandages or whatever -- no one asked you to do that. Apparently women also have a right to … | /r/MensRights | 10/03/21 05:00 PM |
| 25 | Men have no right to tell women how to be a woman, yet women think they have EVERY right to tell a man how to be a man"You're a man, you can't have problems. Everything is easy mode for you and you get everything handed to you for free." Male hyperagency/female hypoagency: every ill a man suffers is deserved and his own fault, and every ill a woman suffers is the fault of someone else -- some man, somewhere. | /r/MensRights | 10/03/21 04:53 PM |
| 3 | Why people always say "women and people of color" ? why putting women in one category with POC ?Cool links. I'll have to read more later. Per your last two links (free speech, egalitarianism vs meritocracy), this is exactly what I would expect and I think these are borne out by societal behaviors. Also, this made me laugh to think about behaviors across reddit and particularly certain subreddits: As expected, the importance of freedom of speech was positively related to intellect, individualism, separate knowing, and negatively related to right‐wing authoritarianism. Men rated freedom of s… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 10/03/21 04:37 PM |
| 6 | The gender bias in how we raise children.boys aren't taught to have self-esteem enough. I think (healthy) self-esteem should arise naturally from knowing yourself and your place in the grand scheme, and being confident in your abilities and achievements. This seems impossible while we drill into boys' heads that they are all potential rapists, like rabid animals waiting for a hair-trigger moment in which they'll lose control, or that they should feel responsible for bad actions from all men everywhere and at every point in history, the… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 10/03/21 04:21 PM |
| 2 | Coming 2 America....entirely based on male rape“Men have sacrificed and crippled themselves physically and emotionally to feed, house, and protect women and children. None of their pain or achievement is registered in feminist rhetoric, which portrays men as oppressive and callous exploiters.” -- Camille Paglia Even good guys dying right and left is set dressing in movies. Men's fates are often their own fault, or just part of the plan. Like the battles in LOTR. Guys dying relentlessly is just how it goes, and no one blinks twice. In movies … | /r/MensRights | 09/03/21 07:26 AM |
| 2 | Grand romantic Gestures in Rom-Coms are anti-male.This is a really eye-opening observation when you think about it. I bet if you asked most women which sex was more romantic, they'd respond "women" without hesitation. But while they are the ones who tend to be obsessed with romance, their role to play is typically just to receive it. Is being obsessed with something the same as being good at it, or a frequent practitioner of it? Maybe that's why girls like to play hard to get and "shit test" -- it's a pathological way to make them feel like mor… | /r/MensRights | 09/03/21 07:07 AM |
| 2 | Coming 2 America....entirely based on male rapeWe shouldn't be like feminists and whine everytime we're made fun off or anytime men are clapped. I agree in general. I think it's useful to point out double standards, but feminist tactics work for feminists because they're advocating for women. Men shouldn't expect to receive pity, or for people to be outraged on their behalf in instances of injustice -- if only because it is the unfortunate reality that human psychology seems to preclude these. "Man as victim" is a trope that has become incre… | /r/MensRights | 09/03/21 06:57 AM |
| 2 | Guy buys a washing machine, his wife breaks it several times. Must be his fault, right? (Comments)His edit is so on the money. He sounds like the kind of guy who does well in business by being rational and circumspect. There's some healthy masculinity. edit: Holy shit, look at his profile and see how many downvotes he's getting in the comments section. | /r/MensRights | 09/03/21 06:28 AM |
| 4 | Guy buys a washing machine, his wife breaks it several times. Must be his fault, right? (Comments)That's any female-dominated sub. The ones about dating, relationships, sex, etc, are much worse, though. Reddit is beyond redemption, and it's still mostly males using the site. | /r/MensRights | 09/03/21 06:26 AM |
| 9 | The comment section is getting mad at men claiming women do have all basic human rightsCivil rights used to be about treating everyone the same. But today some people are so used to special treatment that equal treatment is considered to be discrimination. -- Thomas Sowell Rights today just means "stuff I want from the government". The meaning is wholly diluted. Women in general are seemingly hardwired to expect preferential treatment, to the extent that it's their baseline and they can literally assume that they're being mishandled when in fact they are being treated equally. I d… | /r/MensRights | 09/03/21 05:50 AM |
| 6 | Daughter is being a bad influence, and father wants her to stop. Everyone is "creepy," Comments are just... disappointing. Worst comment is in the comments, and is top comment. r/AITA is officially on my top 4 most sexist subs.These people live in a soap opera where everyone is a murderer/rapist/thief. It's the modern feminist narrative. If you raise generations of girls to believe that all men are rapists in waiting, male sexuality is intrinsically dangerous and predatory, and men don't want anything from women except sex, then it naturally follows any unsolicited interaction with a man is him making a pass or something. This sounds miserable but I think a lot of women buy into it since it flatters their egos somewha… | /r/MensRights | 09/03/21 05:30 AM |
| 6 | Equal rights and equal leftsa woman starts to throw hands and than screeches when a dude defends themselves the western world in a nutshell | /r/PussyPassDenied | 09/03/21 04:43 AM |
| 2 | How did this get blamed on men?Aren't feminists always ridiculing men for playing "Devil's Advocate"? I've seen so many feminist memes about it that they just shorten it to "DA" because they know you'll know what it stands for. It's a core component of toxic masculinity now. | /r/PussyPassDenied | 02/03/21 03:50 AM |
| 2 | In 9th grade they installed two gender neutral restrooms at my school. The girls complained that is was Sexist, and Within 2 hours they changed the sign on one door to female only, and left the other one gender neutral. We now have 2 girls restrooms, one boys and one gender neutral restroom.No problem. Thanks for your comment. I think between the fact humanity on the whole has a demonstrable bias towards women, and the observed fact that women tend to only accept preferential treatment from men, to the point where they literally perceive equal treatment as sexist, gynocentrism has a demonstrable root in human evolutionary psychology. It seems obvious then that human society is somewhat blind and defenseless when it comes to uniquely feminine pathologies (in modern times), and in fa… | /r/MensRights | 16/02/21 09:55 PM |
| 3 | Men can't be victims of sexism ?The feminist cries out in pain as she strikes you. To most postmodern, social Marxist ""critical theorists"", there's an immutable 'privilege stack': an ordered list of who has it better than who, mostly according to some affluent white women in academia. Being male puts you strictly above all women, and being white (or "white adjacent") puts you above any other racial identity. Your personal life experiences and struggles are irrelevant. The higher you are on the privilege stack, the more respo… | /r/MensRights | 16/02/21 07:12 PM |
| 2 | What woman don't understand, and I'm in high school, is that men have feelingsUh oh, I did something bad? Sorry, sweaty. I guess that's just my internalized misogyny. Thanks, patriarchy :0). | /r/MensRights | 16/02/21 02:43 AM |
| 1 | Is anyone else tired of feminist gaslighting yet? Men lose jobs for saying the entirely uncontroversial truth that women can dress sexually, and do so because they want to be sexually attractive.Secretly, the core (and only) fixed principle of feminism is "having our cake and eating it, too". There's nothing that pop feminists believe more strongly than that they should they be able to do whatever they want, and be able to do so free of consequences. | /r/MensRights | 16/02/21 02:41 AM |
| 17 | "Equity" in School SportsMy mom pulled me out of public school for a while because of my teachers verbally abusing me and disciplining me for my lack of organization skills, my distractability and high energy level, even though I was legitimately interested in learning and trying my hardest. Boy stuff. Every day I came home and said it was the worst day of my life, and I meant it. With several teachers in a row. I remember being punished and shamed in front of the whole class for my folder being out of order and forgett… | /r/MensRights | 15/02/21 10:50 PM |
| 5 | In 9th grade they installed two gender neutral restrooms at my school. The girls complained that is was Sexist, and Within 2 hours they changed the sign on one door to female only, and left the other one gender neutral. We now have 2 girls restrooms, one boys and one gender neutral restroom.I went to a really "progressive", hyperliberal college in the US around 12 years ago. At the beginning of every semester, every floor of every dormitory building voted on what "genders" the bathrooms would be designated for (if there was only 1, it was gender neutral by default). I took a survey of the bathrooms out of interest a couple years. All-boy floors would typically vote for gender neutral bathrooms, or at most one "boys only" of the two. All girl floors often vote for girls only, with g… | /r/MensRights | 15/02/21 09:47 PM |
| 10 | "Equity" in School SportsSorry, man. I'm 30 and it was the same 15 years ago here in the US. Your anger is more than justified. We were thrown under the bus a long time ago by our parents' generations. Depending on your country, you might be able to affect some positive change if you care to. If half of all children are boys, surely there will be some parents who are angered by the fact that their children are being discriminated against. To whatever extent your gym grades inform your overall grade in school, and to the… | /r/MensRights | 15/02/21 09:39 PM |
| 15 | "Equity" in School SportsIf you're a boy, and you can't pretend to be a girl all day, you are doomed to underperform now. Sitting still like a corpse all day and listening, then regurgitating pointless facts are prioritized, as these advantage girls. Conformity is the aim and girls are much better at conforming. | /r/MensRights | 15/02/21 09:25 PM |
| 8 | Bunch of feminists saying "Kill all men" is ok. To all people saying that they never saw misandry in r/feminism, here is why feminism is just an excuse for misandry, power and enhance female privileges.I said that that phrase was not productive in the fight for equality. My friend said i shouldn't get offended because it didn't literally mean to kill all men, but when I asked her what it actually meant, she just went "oh whatever, I don't even care about this any more." #killallmen is sort of a thought-terminating cliche, exactly like "yes all men", "defund the police" and "black lives matter". Beyond virtue signalling, it's not meant to mean anything; its purpose is to shut down the conversat… | /r/MensRights | 15/02/21 09:16 PM |
| 1 | The army is one of the best examples of gender inequality towards MENIt's easy to dismiss if you just say "Oh well, there should be no draft. Too bad, I don't care." You prove my point too easily. This sort of disinterested "Oh well, why aren't you fixing that? Why make it my problem, too? That's not very nice. What a misogynist." is exactly what I was talking about. You act as though there hasn't been a lot of effort put forth by men to end the draft and selective service. Men who campaign against the draft are on their own, and are usually labeled cowards. Ofte… | /r/MensRights | 15/02/21 08:58 PM |
| 8 | A big misunderstanding about how men treat women and how sexist that is.What a braindead take from this lady. She has no self-awareness, and no idea what she's talking about. Before saying something to a woman ask if you'd say it to a man. I do, and usually I refrain if it's something I'd say to a man. Women really don't understand men and it's obvious, but what's more problematic is they don't understand themselves, either. Women think they want to be treated like "one of the guys", and some of them do, but most of them would be appalled by what that really means. … | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 15/02/21 05:56 AM |
| 5 | Men and women have different standardsmen want the bottom to not be as deep, as women want to (and now mostly can) reach as high as men This is the problem with pop feminism and why it's so inadequate for anyone. It's common critique. At its core, it's dominated by privileged, overeducated women who think success in the form of prestigious careers is something that's just handed out, and they want to be the ones receiving the handouts. It's social Marxism for bourgeoisie wannabe-elites. They also aren't explicitly interested in equa… | /r/MensRights | 15/02/21 02:59 AM |
| 6 | Study: Men's brains and Women's brains are different. They are different in composition and in variability. Some brain's parts are 43% more variable in men's brains than the same part in women's ones.Great post. I don't have anything to say really except keep it up, and that it's good there are people still doing real science in spite of it being politically dangerous. And people like you sharing it. Thanks. | /r/MensRights | 15/02/21 01:22 AM |
| 1 | Radfems can tweet #killallmen and no one cares, but wokeness is a problem now that it affects womenI'm legitimately pro-trans rights, though I am not trans so I don't have strong opinions about what the correct solution looks like for everyone involved. I'd just like for people to be healthy, and able to do what makes them happy. But I've been waiting for this, I get a lot of schadenfreude out of it. It's immature to enjoy it, but I've been saying that the woke train won't stop until (the mostly white, middle-to-upper-middle class, overeducated) women feel disenfranchised by it. They are the … | /r/MensRights | 15/02/21 01:19 AM |
| 2 | Radfems can tweet #killallmen and no one cares, but wokeness is a problem now that it affects womenThey're eating their own like they always do. Great post and good job researching. Reddit is mostly cancer but posters like you give me hope. | /r/MensRights | 15/02/21 01:02 AM |
| 3 | The army is one of the best examples of gender inequality towards MENYet women still don’t need to register for selective service. I used to tell women about this to blow their minds, because almost none of them knew about it. When you're about to turn 18, you get scary calls and letters informing you to sign up for selective service, even though you mistakenly thought the draft was illegal. The penalty for not registering is $250,000 and up to 5 years in federal prison. But average women now are more aware of this, and much more able to recite pop feminist apolo… | /r/MensRights | 15/02/21 12:57 AM |
| 5 | The army is one of the best examples of gender inequality towards MENThe military is yet another case where women get equal pay for unequal work; every trade, business & industry I've been in is like this and the military is no exception. Same. I haven't been in the military, but there's no job I've had that didn't show an explicit, deliberate bias in favor of women for hiring, promotions, work distribution, etc. It's especially bad in tech. If you haven't heard about it, check out the Post-Meritocracy Manifesto. It's obvious that they have been debasing the conc… | /r/MensRights | 15/02/21 12:47 AM |
| 2 | Yet another "expert researcher" writing about the "manosphere" who clearly knows little about "his area of expertise"I'm neither conservative, misogynistic, or white supremacist, and I fit into to his manosphere better than I have anywhere else. I know some PhD's who would take issue with this statement. It's false by definition if you accept the """academic""" perspective as valid. | /r/MensRights | 15/02/21 12:33 AM |
| 12 | Proof of how biased people on reddit against men rightsGood point, but realistically this does end up shaping the discourse, and consequently the otherwise rational and agreeable normal users. To the extent that someone's opinions may be influenced by the discourse in a subreddit moderated in that fashion, the result is that their opinion will be partially informed by what the moderators in question decided was appropriate. We're social animals: people learn and internalize these biases unconsciously. I think this is frankly why any critique of femi… | /r/MensRights | 15/02/21 12:30 AM |
| 3 | How can people be so knowingly evilYour first paragraph is breathtakingly false, basically every point you made. I've had to learn all of these things as a man -- yes, even that there are unacceptable ways to dress, and to put keys between my fingers. You may not be aware that a huge majority of murder and assault victims are men. Before you justify that by claiming that it's men who are the perpetrators, or should have taken precautions, know that this is victim blaming. The more important thing to consider is that, especially i… | /r/MensRights | 15/02/21 12:23 AM |
| 9 | Florida High School teacher arrested after she allegedly had sex with 15-year-old student in her car, home, and classroomI see these stories more and more lately. I don't remember anywhere near this volume of stories about women grooming and raping teenage boys even 10 years ago. Are these getting caught more, prosecuted more, publicized more, or are they just happening more often? I'd like to think that this is just a result of "gender equality" finally coming down in a way that helps young boys. | /r/PussyPassDenied | 14/02/21 11:48 PM |
| 1 | I Am A Female Mens Rights Advocate & Society Hates Me For ItDoing makeup while talking about anything is a huge proportion of online media for women. My girlfriend watches a channel where a woman puts on makeup and talks about unsolved mysteries, and another one where a different woman puts on makeup and talks about ghost stories, etc. I think you're reading too much into it. Per the nudes thing, it's fine if you think that's degenerate or whatever, but it's also highly normalized now. Maybe she's "just doing it for attention" but it doesn't invalidate e… | /r/MensRights | 04/01/21 03:54 AM |
| 3 | Every time I see a woman instructing me how to think or speak about gender I immediately think sociopath or ultimately feminist.You're missing out on a huge swathe of "theory", maybe deliberately(?). Male and female are used to described physical/biological sex, whereas "man" and "woman" are two genders at apparently extreme ends of a spectrum. So sex does not equal gender. It is becoming taboo to even reference physical sex now, or reference biological females as such: some prefer "vagina owner". It's clear at this point that anything and everything is grounds for grievance, and it's just a matter of theory and rational… | /r/MensRights | 04/01/21 03:45 AM |
| 1 | Paper Recommends Women Avoid Female Mentors, Drawing OutrageKudos on taking criticism. I would bet that it isn't her first time groping dudes in the workplace. Maybe she's fucked up over her divorce but groping 6 dudes without consent doesn't just happen by accident. Her crying might have made you feel guilty, but I wouldn't be surprised if it was partly shock due to it being her first time experiencing consequences. When you feel bad about firing her, remind yourself that you should instead feel good that took action to protect at least 6 of your other … | /r/PussyPassDenied | 28/11/20 02:04 PM |
| 1 | Paper Recommends Women Avoid Female Mentors, Drawing OutrageI wish this was true. I've worked at several small tech startups that torpedoed themselves by hiring incompetent (zero experience) diversity hires with the belief that because they were so personable, and passably conversant, they could just be trained up. I only saw one person who was capable of being trained up to "competently junior" status, and she moved onto a better job with less work for more pay as soon as she became productive in her role eight months after being hired. The person who i… | /r/PussyPassDenied | 28/11/20 01:30 PM |
| 1 | Girlfriend is upset because I’m not willing to blindly believe rape claims, thoughts on my perspective?Your girlfriend's take on this is irrational at best. Does she think that women are incapable of lying? Does she think there would never be a reason to lie about rape? Does she think there has never been an instance of a woman lying about rape? If she answers yes to these questions, then she's either being disingenuous or she literally thinks that women are faultless and incapable of malfeasance. The idea is patently ridiculous, but it's not strictly impossible that she really thinks this. Human… | /r/MensRights | 26/11/20 11:27 PM |
| 4 | On a post about why female fragility isn't talked about, some comments call him out for "Toxic Masculinity" when he only talked about his experiences with girls.Good post, dude. Extra double kudos for sticking to your guns in the edits. | /r/MensRights | 25/11/20 05:08 PM |
| 3 | NSW women get $5000 Covid relief grant from taxpayer funds, and men can't qualify because they are men. (Men obviously don't need this since we have all the money anyway.)Thanks for your candor. | /r/MensRights | 25/11/20 03:35 AM |
| 6 | Feminists are terrorists. Thoughts?Suffragetes are not akin to modern feminists In that, we are agreed. But you can't retroactively apply a third wave feminist definition to who gets to be in your clubhouse almost 100 years later. They were feminists at the time, according to their contemporary definition thereof. It's arbitrary gatekeeping, which is why I referred to the Scotsman fallacy. I really don't want to be adversarial with you but when you just 'nuh uh' and then post a single local news article without context to prove y… | /r/MensRights | 25/11/20 01:41 AM |
| 4 | Feminists are terrorists. Thoughts?https://www.lexico.com/en/definition/concern_troll | /r/MensRights | 25/11/20 01:28 AM |
| 5 | Feminists are terrorists. Thoughts?Except suffragetes aren’t feminists. Scotsman fallacy. And they targeted buildings, not people. No one died as a result of their actions. Are you meaning to imply that this isn't terrorism? | /r/MensRights | 25/11/20 01:21 AM |
| 2 | NSW women get $5000 Covid relief grant from taxpayer funds, and men can't qualify because they are men. (Men obviously don't need this since we have all the money anyway.)Thanks for your insight and participation. When Ive told people im not a feminist, they say stupid things like "do you hate yourself?" or "give up your voting rights then!" I think women will look for others with similar opinions before discussing something. I think this is a huge problem with why runaway feminism is allowed to proceed as it does. Women suppress each other more effectively than men could, and men have no say in it anymore. Men aren't allowed to voice an opinion, but ironically c… | /r/MensRights | 25/11/20 01:09 AM |
| 2 | Feminists are terrorists. Thoughts?Of course. Commitment to objectivity is what generally separates us from third wave feminists. Keep it up, though. | /r/MensRights | 25/11/20 12:43 AM |
| 12 | NSW women get $5000 Covid relief grant from taxpayer funds, and men can't qualify because they are men. (Men obviously don't need this since we have all the money anyway.)Im not some delicate princess unable to do things for herself. This is the crux of why men are frustrated with feminism. Equal treatment is one thing, and to claim that women don't deserve equal treatment is legitimately sexist. But first- and third-wave feminism have this cognitively dissonant core of "women need to be equal but also special"; it's been a principal element of feminism for more than 100 years (arguably excluding the second wave). Why is it that women rarely speak out about this,… | /r/MensRights | 25/11/20 12:27 AM |
| 2 | Feminists are terrorists. Thoughts?This is just sophistry that isn't going to get you anywhere. Someone isn't a terrorist just because they call themselves an extremist with an agenda. You need to show that someone committed legitimate terrorism. You happen to be correct, though, that feminism has engaged in terrorism. Look up suffragette bombings from the early 1900's for a start. | /r/MensRights | 25/11/20 12:22 AM |
| 3 | A question about speaking on behalf of others and "lived experiences" I'm asking both Menslib and askfems right nowIf you mean per the first paragraph, I was being a little reductionist but I don't think I was being dishonest at all. There's obviously more sophistry involved but that's what intersectionalism boils down to. If you want to know more, you can check out New Discourses -- but make sure to seek out primary and alternate sources, as well. They consistently take a sort of anti-woke/contrarian slant, so it's not wholly objective, but it comes closer than any other anti-woke material I find and they w… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 24/11/20 02:58 AM |
| 4 | A question about speaking on behalf of others and "lived experiences" I'm asking both Menslib and askfems right nowIt's hypocritical if you believe in classical liberal values and individualism, but not within feminist metaphysics. The new feminist sophistry (via intersectionality and the privilege stack) is that women have more access to truth than men, or at least their interpretation with respect to literally anything is more valid and more important. So while they can't honestly say they have our "lived experience", they can say that their opinion about it is more correct and we can't gainsay them. One's… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 23/11/20 12:30 PM |
| 3 | According to the default analysis framework of Academia, this is a White Supremacist subreddit and we are all White SupremacistsI think what you're alluding to largely is what James Linday calls "fast-forwarding", wherein critical theorists just ignore recent social progress that's been made and focus on iniquities of the relatively more distant past. When we talk about modern feminism (i.e. third wave), it's apparently not disingenuous to bring up women's suffrage, even though they've had the franchise for 100 years (in the US), which is twice as long as the time from when men universally had it before women. It's manip… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 22/11/20 01:22 AM |
| 4 | The mental seal of 'Women are oppressed, men have the power'Patrice O'Neal was a genius in a lot of ways. It's a shame we won't have his perspective about 2020. Working the tech industry really woke me up about feminism. I (a man) openly called myself a feminist, and spent literally hundreds of hours volunteering at womens' coder groups teaching classes, going to hackathons and trying to hook up junior-level women coders with jobs at startups. Anyone who says women are broadly disadvantaged over men in tech are either lying or misinformed (mostly the lat… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 22/11/20 12:46 AM |
| 4 | According to the default analysis framework of Academia, this is a White Supremacist subreddit and we are all White SupremacistsThey do adopt all the other dogma except the belief that a man can become a woman. This is a clue that they are just as anti-egalitarian and feminine-supremacist as any other critical theorist, except that their club of neo-aristocrats is a little more exclusive. It's doubly vile to me because they aren't even interested in obfuscating it with theory to pretend otherwise. TERFs aren't about improving anything for anyone but themselves, and they are least of all about equality, unless you conside… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 22/11/20 12:04 AM |
| 2 | The mental seal of 'Women are oppressed, men have the power'I hadn't been interested in reading that book (The Three Body Problem) until you described the mental seal concept. It makes me think of the idea of "thought-terminating cliches"("thought-stopping phrases (that) include any use of the language, especially repeated phrases, to ward off forbidden thoughts" and 'Doctrine over reality'), especially since that concept originated from observations of ideological totalitarianism in Communist China in the 60's. Based only on your description, the concep… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 21/11/20 11:11 PM |
| 1 | If women vote in a higher number in the west (as they have over & over again) how can we be in a patriarchy?It's like when you ask a gnostic theist for proof in God, and they just reply "Well look all around you! It's everywhere! Everything is proof of God!". It seems obvious at this point that radical feminists -- like other modern extremists -- are railing against physical reality and the very concept of objectivity as much as they are their often-imagined "oppressors". | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 17/11/20 03:34 AM |
| 2 | What do you think when people use the term 'bromance' to describe male friendships?You put it far more simply than I did, "tone" is really the key word and the niggling irritation with it (imo). I use bromance to describe the types of friendship and expressions thereof which are uniquely masculine. I think we should just use the word as a celebration of masculine friendship and its unique expressions; e.g. I've used it to describe when I met my girlfriends' friends' fiance at a wedding, and having never met him before, spent the rest of the wedding geeking out about niche hobb… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 06/11/20 02:39 AM |
| 3 | What do you think when people use the term 'bromance' to describe male friendships?My outlook is, at its heart, action oriented. That instead of whinging about the unfairness, we equip ourselves for it. I agree with this 100% and it's what I advocate when I talk to younger men. And I think this is exactly the correct approach, when I said earlier that the hysterics approach was repellent to men and basically doomed to fail. I run up against some resistance when I suggest this, because men are either convinced that hysterics is constructive "action" or (with younger men especia… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 06/11/20 02:30 AM |
| 7 | What do you think when people use the term 'bromance' to describe male friendships?I agree with you about the article and in general, but I wanted to address this point because I think it is ultimately one of the most salient conversations we can have about mens' advocacy in general: One of the places I probably differ from many on this sub is that I do not believe progress will be made within the framework/zeitgeist of victimhood. I agree that getting hysterical about 'muh oppression' is definitely not productive -- at least not for men. It actually has been historically succ… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 06/11/20 01:57 AM |
| 5 | What do you think when people use the term 'bromance' to describe male friendships?I skimmed the article and I think I see your point, which to me is that the word bromance can treat what really are very normal homosocial male relationships as something sort of special and abnormal by way of giving them a cutesy designation. This has the ironic effect of making it seem less natural to the reader. To the extent that guys being vulnerable, effeminate or gay is are legitimate barriers to making new friends or deepening existing friendships, I think this article could be a little … | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 06/11/20 12:47 AM |
| 1 | Labor Day weekend reading: The Misandry BubbleWow, I totally forgot about this. Good post. I think reading this in college around when it came out is actually what started to get me thinking critically about feminism and my position as a leftist. I am still very leftist economically and socially, but I do think that our main weaknesses are intolerance of other viewpoints (perhaps especially empirical or rationalist ones), accepting and propagating arguments based in emotion foremost, and a lack of critical thinking in general. His update fr… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 08/09/20 11:38 PM |
| 1 | Labor Day weekend reading: The Misandry BubbleSo your actual thesis is that feminism and right wing ideology are ploys for simultaneously subjugating and placating men, by misdirecting their frustrations? | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 08/09/20 08:45 PM |
| 10 | This. Feminists who want gender roles abolished should start thinking about working in the dirty and dangerous jobs that will kill men 13 times more. And don’t expect a thanks. As we have learned it doesn’t come with the job.As a man who has worked in female-dominated workplaces (in a male-dominated industry), I've learned to avoid them. I've worked with some really excellent women, but it only takes one or two people to turn a productive, neutral work dynamic into a toxic, catty and unprofessional one. I observe that as a man you are actually pretty powerless in a situation like that, especially if most of your colleagues are women. Not only are men not socialized as children to deal with subterfuge and backbiting,… | /r/MensRights | 02/09/20 10:05 PM |
| 2 | What would you say is “Toxic femininity”?I agree that "toxic masculinity" as a concept isn't very legit since it connects toxic behavior intrinsically to masculinity (i.e. implies they're inseparable, as if women can't do them), but if we want to take it on to just describe some harmful behaviors that men are more prone to (which is how it's used), a better name would suit. But if you want to flip it and just say that "toxic femininity" are some behaviors that women are comparatively more prone to here's a list: Histrionics, neurotic b… | /r/MensRights | 02/09/20 09:37 PM |
| 5 | Positive masculinity has to be more than oppositional.These people have actually been circlejerking in their echo chamber for so long about how harmful masculine ideals are they they don't even know what the positive ideals are in the first place any more. they are like lost little sheep. Even look at this post: to them the default form is toxic and anything positive has to be searched for and discovered. This is what I point out whenever I talk to a "casual" feminist who internalizes their CNN/BBC/Guardian headlines or whatever a little too much, … | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 30/08/20 06:44 AM |
| 2 | Positive masculinity has to be more than oppositional.Should traits be treated as feminine or masculine at all? There has been some posts here on also defining toxic femininity but maybe it's all just toxic behavior and good behavior. How you answer this question depends on whether or not you think any gender expression reflects biological/psychosocial reality (i.e. to what degree it isn't socially constructed) and whether you think it serves a useful purpose. It's evident that gender "roles", which are cultural templates for gender expression, can… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 30/08/20 06:13 AM |
| 2 | Videos on men's rights activism, anti-feminism, etc?No problem! I definitely just recommended some rabbit holes, so I hope you find it useful and not a waste of time. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 25/08/20 11:14 AM |
| 6 | Videos on men's rights activism, anti-feminism, etc?I'm not sure I agree with reframing it as a class issue entirely, but maybe I can help anyway: Firstly, Camille Paglia might be your first stop. She talks about gender dynamics and class a lot, particularly from the point of a view of having grown up in a blue collar immigrant family. She's cool and I like her but her argumentation is largely anecdotal and narrative, from an insider's view of the second wave (and I think she identifies as trans and/or lesbian), rather than as attempts at objecti… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 25/08/20 11:07 AM |
| 11 | Denial of Being Complicit. A Rant.Based post. As a woman on the inside, do you have any observations about how this sort of cognitive dissonance comes about? Why do women some feminists seem to act, even among themselves, like women in general are perfectly virtuous angels and not at all capable of bias (unrelated to The Patriarchy)? I'm aware of the Women-are-wonderful effect, but surely women experience toxicity in dynamics where there are no men present, nor are men the subject of conversation; it's just human nature that som… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 25/08/20 08:22 AM |
| 2 | Great conversation on toxic masculinity and renegotiating gender identity in the modern world (Greg Ellis & Bret Weinstein)Well said. This is a difficult point of view to get across. Sorry to butcher your comment, but I thought these bits were especially cogent and fit together in sequence: I do not think that erasing gender will maximize happiness. ... [Gender] is undeniably an expression of biological realities; realities which we cannot escape with current technology. ... [W]e can't deny that gender is deeply rooted in our brain, which has millions of years of evolutionary history. If that is an accurate summatio… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 25/08/20 03:19 AM |
| 7 | What is the 'Women are Wonderful' effect?... ultimately the worldviews created are inherently gynocentric. ... There is much of value in the debates and discussions held within the feminist community, but the basis through which their ideas are generated leads to only a narrow perspective of societal gender issues in the world. In theory, it should be fine that feminism is gynocentric. The name itself tells you that it is. Women should be (and are) allowed to advocate for themselves. The subsequent issue of limited perspective should a… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 24/08/20 08:06 PM |
| 7 | What is the 'Women are Wonderful' effect?I didnt say that women werent ever oppressed. I said that women were treated as more than just sex objects. People love exaggerating about how women were seen as nothing more than sex objects. ... What is so ridiculous about the idea that humans, for evolutionary reasons, have a bias where they see women more positively in many ways? ... This isnt misogyny, its humanity's evolutionary programming to value women more than men. Thank you. I'm so tired of hearing this argument, that women were basi… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 24/08/20 07:47 PM |
| 4 | What Gender Pay-Gap Statistics— Unequal work among genders = unequal pay.If you control for all the (quantitative) variables available, it's actually a ≤2% gap now. You probably know this already, but for other readers, while this could still be partially be explained by discrimination, there are other qualitative factors that contribute; salary negotiation is usually the go-to, and there's a lot of research about how we can reorganize society in order to make women feel more entitled and confident in asking for more money. What's left out are other qualitative pheno… | /r/MensRights | 23/08/20 08:05 PM |
| 83 | No, in fact what we care about is male genital mutilation, male rape, sexual abuse and violence and the disgusting treatment of men in the courts and in the court of public opinion.We're for everyone's rights, but we get to decide whose rights matter the most. Feminists get the privilege of their ideology being uncritically accepted everywhere in the developed word to the point where it supplants egalitarian values, and then they get to say that feminism is the new egalitarianism. | /r/MensRights | 23/08/20 07:41 PM |
| 6 | No, in fact what we care about is male genital mutilation, male rape, sexual abuse and violence and the disgusting treatment of men in the courts and in the court of public opinion.https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/23374102/ https://blogs.bmj.com/medical-ethics/2016/04/22/circumcision-and-sexual-function-bad-science-reporting-misleads-parents/ | /r/MensRights | 23/08/20 07:35 PM |
| 6 | Very interesting take on polygamy from "the myth of male power" by warren farrellThis is pretty much a universal constant throughout all of human history. I'm not an anthropologist, but it's my impression that monogamy is not really a norm relative to the lifespan of our species. For instance, despite men and women typically comprising about equal poportions of the population, more women than men have reproduced in history; there are more mothers than fathers in the history of our species (at a ratio of about 4 or 5 women to 1 man): For much of human history, a greater propo… | /r/MensRights | 23/08/20 05:52 AM |
| 2 | 75 years ago, only men were conscripted to die in WW2. Today, game developers shoehorn female soldiers in games, unabashedly erasing men's coerced sacrifice! We pay the price, They get the glory!I changed it. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 22/08/20 03:38 AM |
| 9 | 75 years ago, only men were conscripted to die in WW2. Today, game developers shoehorn female soldiers in games, unabashedly erasing men's coerced sacrifice! We pay the price, They get the glory!I mostly agree with this, and this is one example of many that shows feminists get to crash into male spaces (like video games and geek culture) and diarrhea shit all over everything, and then flounce off to the bank with all the beta bucks they made off it. Men (and boys, many 17 and under) were removed from the normal progression of their lives to go fight in a foreign war some stupid assholes in another country started. They often didn't come home until they were killed, grievously injured, o… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 22/08/20 02:14 AM |
| 1 | I’m a surgeon in NYC and this just boils my blood. The comments are infuriating. The problem is it echoes my experience in both residency and as a practicing surgeon.It makes sense that feminists are focused on elite/prestige work (from their point of view), but it makes no fucking sense that they aren't interested in teachers. Teachers are 85% women and they are chronically underpaid, overworked and underappreciated, but feminists do not give one single fuck apparently. If they wanted to close the supposed wage gap, teacher pay and benefits would be a huge step forward. I think the reason is they are primarily focused on taking things away from men. If you … | /r/MensRights | 22/08/20 12:58 AM |
| 3 | Entitled women are more self serving than equally entitled men - N=128 social experiment @ George Mason Uni., VA (Demiral and Mollerstrom, 2017)Right away from the abstract: ... meaning that strengthening feelings of entitlement could be a way to decrease gender differences in negotiation behavior. Just what we need. I'm only half way through the paper, but the fact that women act more strongly in self-interest to a game when it's called Entitlement versus men whose behavior doesn't change, might suggest alternatively that women already do have a comparatively higher sense of self-entitlement coming into the experiment. It's the case th… | /r/MensRights | 21/08/20 08:24 PM |
| 6 | I’m a surgeon in NYC and this just boils my blood. The comments are infuriating. The problem is it echoes my experience in both residency and as a practicing surgeon.Organizations (like my residency) will do whatever they can to try get more women in their field, which basically translates to lowering standards for that group. This is computer science education in a nutshell. It's amazing to see how the professors will swoop in on female students at every opportunity to make sure they're comfortable and happy. They get away with cheating like you wouldn't believe, too; I've witnessed it personally. You're right about it fostering resentment. It doesn't reall… | /r/MensRights | 21/08/20 05:58 AM |
| 1 | I’m a surgeon in NYC and this just boils my blood. The comments are infuriating. The problem is it echoes my experience in both residency and as a practicing surgeon.What do the numbers look like over a longer range, like the last 10ish years? I believe you, that's a very dramatic change, but it's just a one year interval. Plus, if we're looking at women who are dropping out after ~6 years, we'd have to look at who was being accepted like 12+ years ago, right? I wonder if there is also some effect selectivity that has had on people dropping out, as well. When I was in college, a lot of people wanted to go to med school for the prestige; I can't read people's… | /r/MensRights | 21/08/20 03:59 AM |
| 2 | Oh the irony. Do you think they even notice?"Big sweaty men grunting and lifting weights make me feel unsafe." | /r/MensRights | 21/08/20 02:18 AM |
| 4 | I’m a surgeon in NYC and this just boils my blood. The comments are infuriating. The problem is it echoes my experience in both residency and as a practicing surgeon.It's already a talking point that women take out loans for education, but then have a hard(er) time paying them back since they end up leaving the workforce later or taking lower paid work. Loans are totally sexist. | /r/MensRights | 21/08/20 02:13 AM |
| 14 | I’m a surgeon in NYC and this just boils my blood. The comments are infuriating. The problem is it echoes my experience in both residency and as a practicing surgeon.What are your observations about this? I see in the comments there that some people seem to be blaming it on women getting a harder time, etc. Do you observe this is true? This is basically the situation in engineering, too. They say there's a a "pipeline problem" with only ~35% of engineering students being women, but after two years of working, almost half of all women end up leaving engineering positions -- and more trickle off later. Some of them move into management/administration, since th… | /r/MensRights | 21/08/20 02:10 AM |
| 2 | a post on r/feminism, like men aren't shamed for having long hairPeople like this are the tail end of a human centipede of dumb twitter takes. | /r/MensRights | 20/08/20 06:30 PM |
| 1 | Anyone else's confidence knocked by terms like "mansplain"?Yes, but that's not really the point. I asked because if someone hasn't used the words before, it's healthier for you (and fairer to them) to give them the benefit of the doubt and not let the expectation that they will negatively impact your life. If your sister had never used the words before, I would have advised against worrying about it for fear of it damaging your family relationships inadvertently. But your sister actually is immature and at least casually sexist. Firstly, your feelings a… | /r/MensRights | 20/08/20 05:58 PM |
| 1 | Anyone else's confidence knocked by terms like "mansplain"?Has your sister used these words around you? | /r/MensRights | 19/08/20 08:13 PM |
| 3 | In Ireland Education Minister Norma Foley says that the calculated grading system being used for this year's exams has been designed to ensure that overall girls will do better than boys. A girls grade will be increased in the algorithim simply for being a girl a boys will go down for beying a boyThis is dystopian as fuck. Your grade doesn't map to your effort and knowledge anymore, it's also a function of your gender, race, class, etc. These kids' futures are now partially determined by some racist, sexist, anti-egalitarian assholes who have a legitimate antipathy for about half of them. This is what a move towards "equity" looks like: arbitrary middlemen taking away the value of hard work based on what they think you deserve due to your immutable characteristics. I hope this ends up be… | /r/MensRights | 19/08/20 08:50 AM |
| 10 | Unpopular opinion: the patriarchy exists and effects everyone. Men lose in custody battles because of the stereotype of a woman being the housewife and mothers? Men not getting recognized as victims because we just “man up”? All issues from our patriarchy and societal gender rolesCan you define the patriarchy in your own terms? If the patriarchy existed, how would you prove it existed? Why do you think the patriarchy exists and how did you come to that conclusion? | /r/MensRights | 19/08/20 07:32 AM |
| 23 | Where is this systemic misogyny everyone’s talking about ??“ackshually that’s misogynistic because women aren’t property”. I wish I'd known this, I'd still have those two goats and 10 shekels I paid for mine. | /r/MensRights | 19/08/20 07:15 AM |
| 7 | The problem of simpit’s what people call men who respect women. Is that what it means now? It's been around for a long time. It used to refer to guys who followed women around waiting for a crumb of pussy, aka "nice guys". Using it for guys who show women basic respect is misusing the term. Regarding how it degrades women specifically: women don't like when men shame other men for being orbiters. They like to have exclusive rights to that privilege, so they can whip it out of their back pocket when it's convenient… | /r/MensRights | 19/08/20 07:04 AM |
| 50 | My friend just overheard this conversation. He's a student at Lincoln University, New Zealand.Are you from there? Care to share your observations? Kiwi's I've known seem really chill but I also have read some depressing statistics about gender parity for men. | /r/MensRights | 19/08/20 06:47 AM |
| 21 | My friend just overheard this conversation. He's a student at Lincoln University, New Zealand.Patriarchy shit is totally projection. Also, re: meritocracy. | /r/MensRights | 19/08/20 06:45 AM |
| 13 | Men hating other men is such an untalked about problem. And no it is not toxic masculinity.https://i.imgur.com/ZiFAqlS.jpg | /r/MensRights | 19/08/20 06:41 AM |
| 3 | "Females of the future."It was before #metoo, but now you have me wondering what that situation might have looked like if it had occurred during all of that. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 19/08/20 06:05 AM |
| 15 | "Females of the future."One of the most successful women I know it's constantly using her sex to her advantage with "women in stem" type automatic action policies This is one of the things that got me into men's advocacy. I am liberal, went to a hyper-liberal school majoring in CS where I saw girls getting unbelievable preferential treatment, and have been working software where I still see unbelievable preferential treatment for women at the professional level. Yet I hear constantly about how rampant systemic sexism (… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 19/08/20 05:25 AM |
| 4 | What do you actually expect of women?The movement is particularly accepting towards women because people tend to ignore men who try to talk about men’s rights and just assume they’re right wing nutjobs, but they’ll listen to women. Isn't that such a weird dynamic? When women advocate for themselves it's natural and empowering, but when men advocate for themselves it's suspicious and transgressive. I feel like that in itself is a sort of small proof that mens' privilege is not all-encompassing. Also you're right about women contribu… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 19/08/20 05:03 AM |
| 1 | What do you actually expect of women?Good post and kudos for finding a relevant Karen Straughan video. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 19/08/20 04:45 AM |
| 11 | What do you actually expect of women?Hi, I appreciate you engaging here. In principle, we do not actually regard women as the enemy here, so I hope you don't feel personally attacked by the content here. Per your first paragraph, this is largely a space for disaffected men, so the tenor here will probably come across as overly negative if you can't relate to it. You can see this in any other subreddit for disaffected people, really (see /r/ADHD for example): venting isn't the purpose of this subreddit, but it happens. I absolutely … | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 18/08/20 05:46 PM |
| 1 | LeftWingMaleAdvocates top posts and comments for the week of August 02 - August 08Check out the "top of all time" for the sub as a whole if you haven't already. I hope you find what you're looking for here; it's easy to feel like you're crazy if you go to some other certain subreddits. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 16/08/20 10:52 PM |
| 7 | Telling men "it's okay to cry" is just another way to tell men "man up"Welcome to the sub! I hope you will feel free to dialogue here. When people say "it's OK to cry" - I interpret that as a shorthand for: "It's OK for men to express vulnerability." That is definitely the case when most people say it, I think. However, OP's point seems to follow from that, which is to say that this sentiment is the extent to which empathy is extended towards men in society as compared to women. Saying "it's OK to cry" is often a trite dismissal of society-level problems that men f… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 16/08/20 10:40 PM |
| 2 | Feminist outraged that she received equality one timeWhen you're accustomed to privilege, equality feels like oppression. | /r/PussyPassDenied | 15/08/20 01:14 PM |
| 4 | I found this Twitter thread about how trans men are treated in the LGBT community interestingI hate seeing how trans men are treated. Thanks for sharing this. I know there are some trans men who contribute here and I think their voices are important. I think trans men seem to be an inconvenience to the current radical feminist dogma and associated LGBTQ+ movement, since it would seem to imply that some part of gender identity is not chosen and not acculturated. Who would choose to go through all of the pain and expense of becoming a trans man, if you accept that masculinity is the devil… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 14/08/20 06:41 PM |
| 4 | I found this Twitter thread about how trans men are treated in the LGBT community interestingI get a certain schadenfreude from watching J.K. Rowling get eviscerated for being a TERF after pandering to the same people for so long. I don't like seeing people hold her up as a symbol for the fight against critical social justice because her self-defense initially was to still blame the patriarchy for all evil. It's like you say, TERFs are the same but just more honest about keeping boys out of their clubhouse. Watching the battle about trans-rights and inclusion has been interesting for me… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 14/08/20 06:25 PM |
| 3 | Weren't witches victims of people not applying "innocent until proven guilty"?the portrayal of witch-hunts as men just wanting to kill women because reasons. This type of rhetoric is so easily accepted by almost everyone, it's so dehumanizing; it either dehumanizes the people of the past, or men in general. Women participated at least as much as men did in witch-hunting. The pervasive myth of women's hypoagency warps history. There are even people who are eager to blame this on ergot poisoning, or some other hallucinogens, like young girls could never be capable of doing … | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 14/08/20 06:14 PM |
| 1 | Counter arguments to feminists claims of female oppression throughout history.Thanks. I know women who don't think that way, too, and I'm grateful for them. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 14/08/20 05:05 PM |
| 13 | Weren't witches victims of people not applying "innocent until proven guilty"?Very funny observation, for real! I think it boils down to typical girl larping mostly, but since you bring it up I think it also links them unfavorably to historical events unintentionally. They see the figure of a witch as uniquely feminine, outcast, unfairly persecuted, subversive, wise and powerful in esoteric ways that normies can't understand. Thematically speaking it also maps perfectly onto how they seem to view themselves already, as wise holders of powerful secret knowledge. But you al… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 13/08/20 03:16 AM |
| 5 | Counter arguments to feminists claims of female oppression throughout history.... they were historically oppressed. "Well, we were oppressed for hundreds of years". Oh yeah? You personally? I didn't know you were hundreds of years old. Are you a vampire? I'm sorry you were oppressed for that long. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 12/08/20 02:34 AM |
| 3 | Counter arguments to feminists claims of female oppression throughout history.It's so firmly entrenched in people's minds that women were oppressed. To say they weren't to them is as ludicrous as saying black slaves weren't oppressed or something. I think it is fair to admit that women were oppressed insofar as literally everyone was oppressed. In different, unique ways, for sure, but then again so were men and even children at times (child labor laws and public education are a relatively new thing in human history). On some level I think that society inherently constrain… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 12/08/20 02:29 AM |
| 1 | I find it very interesting how now people (specially feminists) hate the word "simp" after using "nice guy" for years and years (and continue to this very day) when both are kind of the sameThat's an interesting observation, and I hadn't though about "nice guy" types and their relationship to other men at large, like whether or not they treat them decently. There is some interesting research that tends to show that when men treat women as they treat other men, they will be perceived by others as being sexist toward women, and so their sexuality and psychological health can even come under question. It's also the case that men who are more prone to "benevolent sexism" (treating wome… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 11/08/20 11:40 PM |
| 1 | I find it very interesting how now people (specially feminists) hate the word "simp" after using "nice guy" for years and years (and continue to this very day) when both are kind of the sameThanks. I thought your question was good and topical. What have you observed about how the words are used and the criticism they get? It's been interesting to watch the conversation around livestreaming. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 11/08/20 09:21 PM |
| 12 | Counter arguments to feminists claims of female oppression throughout history.This is well said. Thank you for taking the time to write this out. Maybe it would be worthwhile to compile some sort of community document with some of these counterpoints and reasonable sources (and points to counter the counter-counterpoints). I feel when I talk to someone who is deeply entrenched in third wave ideals, and I bring up any of this, their response is something along the lines of "nuh uh" or "well what about X". Do you find any success bringing these up? I think what's most diffi… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 11/08/20 04:30 PM |
| 3 | Disposable Dads and the Myth of the Modern FamilyI have witnessed dads being told that their desire to care for their children is 'aggressive and upsetting' to their children's mother. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 11/08/20 03:37 PM |
| 3 | Podcast episode addresses forgotten Male victims of The Golden State KillerThis is just business as usual, since the dawn of time. Here's another one: most people have heard about Boko Haram, the African militant group that kidnapped 276 girls, but they don't know that Boko Haram had killed ~1000 people before that, mostly boys and men and no one cared until they kidnapped a Christian girls school. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 10/08/20 04:18 PM |
| 5 | I find it very interesting how now people (specially feminists) hate the word "simp" after using "nice guy" for years and years (and continue to this very day) when both are kind of the sameI think your observation is pretty legitimate. I think "nice guy" and "simp" are talking about the same kind of person: a man who panders to a particular woman in a dynamic where the woman holds all of the power and isn't expected to give the man anything in return. I think where they differ is in who uses them and why. There can be a subtle difference but if your point is that this dichotomy exposes some cognitive dissonance then I agree. "Nice guy" is used to denigrate the man from a feminist … | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 10/08/20 04:01 PM |
| 1 | The problem of instant ban from left wing spaces when mentioning men's issues !Feminism is for everyone the same way trickle down economics is for everyone. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 09/08/20 03:56 PM |
| 2 | The problem of instant ban from left wing spaces when mentioning men's issues !the optics of a wall of mothers was understood to be more appealing than the optics of, say, a Wall of Non-Binary Cat Moms lol (from your article) which is why so many MRAs are actually ex feminsits, its when they realised feminism wasn't about equality they left. I think this observation is huge and I feel the same way. The critical social justice wieners realized people were catching on and are now pro-"equity", meaning equality of outcome along axes of gender (and race, etc, but that's for an… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 09/08/20 03:50 PM |
| 3 | The problem of instant ban from left wing spaces when mentioning men's issues !I think it looks like this sub honestly. I am a "lefty" but I think there are a lot of right-wing people here talking, too. And in general we are all polite to each other, including women and feminists who wander in (at least comparitively). What unites the left- and right-wing people who want to advocate for men's rights is mainly that you reject the more extreme narratives pushed by modern feminism. In that regard, I think a lot of people wouldn't be convinced that this is really a sub for lef… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 09/08/20 03:32 PM |
| 3 | The white feather should be reclaimed as a masculist symbolGreat point. I think it's a good enough symbol without having to understand the specifics, but the white feather stories of WWI and WWII really stick in people's craw if they buy into patriarchy ""theory"". I've told some people about the white feathers, and it makes everyone uncomfortable to think about. It's pretty sad and underhanded, and I think that we choose to forget about these things as a society only lends strength to the women's hypoagency/zero sum privilege myths. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 09/08/20 03:14 PM |
| 6 | How can we convince left-wingers that advocating for men's problems isn't a right-wing recruitment tactic?A HUGE thing the left could do to shut down that pipeline is stop behaving like MensLib does, and stop shoving all disagreement into that box, just as you say. Yes, I hate this dynamic where the only "true" left wingers are the ones who are furthest left, the ones who don't ask questions, do what they're told, and shun those who disagree. It's like a cult. It's becoming explictly anti-egalitarian and anti-individualist now, as well. Left wing male advocates are in a precarious position because w… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 08/08/20 03:01 PM |
| 4 | How can we convince left-wingers that advocating for men's problems isn't a right-wing recruitment tactic?I often see feminists accuse MRA's of "playing the victim." This makes me laugh because it is such blatant projection. This dynamic is weird as fuck and most people don't notice it consciously. Men just literally aren't allowed to advocate for themselves or other men -- it's regarded with suspicion and skepticism. Why isn't it suspicious when women do it? Even the rich, white privileged ones? | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 08/08/20 02:31 PM |
| 2 | Justice system and media bias against men. This passage is from "The legal subjection of men" written in 1908 by men's rights advocate Ernest Belfort Bax.It's amazing to read Belfort Bax and realize that what he wrote is more than 100 years old. The popular dynamics have hardly changed. Here's a good Belfort Bax quote (emphasis added): Modern Feminism rose slowly above the horizon. Modern Feminism has two distinct sides to it: (1) an articulate political and economic side embracing demands for so-called rights; and (2) a sentimental side which insists in an accentuation of the privileges and immunities which have grown up, not articulately or as … | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 08/08/20 01:28 PM |
| 3 | Thoughts on this?But regardless of the name, and while it may not be politically correct, there is no denying that it is an overwhelmingly female phenomenon. https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/its-catching/201703/why-are-females-prone-mass-hysteria | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 25/07/20 01:42 AM |
| 5 | "Scary time to be a man."I agree, it seems everyone is much more polarized now. I remember when the Tea Party was a jokey right-wing fringe that became integrated into the Republican mainstream gradually (and their type of rhetoric seems to dominate now, as an outsider). The SJW/authoritarian takeover of the left seems to have been much quicker, and definitely more cutthroat. It makes you wonder what this is all about. I have an inkling that peoples' diminishing standards of living and future prospects have something to… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 25/07/20 01:12 AM |
| 3 | "Scary time to be a man."So far I've only seen his write up of White Fragility, but I liked that. Thanks for the link, I'm about the check it out! | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 25/07/20 12:44 AM |
| 1 | Why feminists should stop using terms like "fragile masculinity"Thanks so much for taking the time to compile these for me. I am looking forward to reading through these! | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 25/07/20 12:38 AM |
| 1 | MensLib deleted my postmuh alternative epistomology | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 24/07/20 04:21 PM |
| 19 | "Scary time to be a man."I didn't know he'd said this, but I remember anyone expressing this sentiment was demonized immediately, e.g. "What do you have to be scared of if you're not a rapist/abuser/sexist/etc?", "Women live their whole lives in fear they'll be raped and murdered, and you're scared you'll be caught for your abuse?", "I'd rather 100 innocent men be punished than a single guilty one go free", "A good man would allow himself to be destroyed so that women can progress", etc. I still think I am on the left, … | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 24/07/20 03:49 PM |
| 4 | Why feminists should stop using terms like "fragile masculinity"This is really exceptionally articulate and thorough. Is this all original thought, or have you assimilated some literature or other resources? If this is original to you, I think you might need to write a book or something. You disarmed some common feminist points that I haven't been able to easily counter, e.g. with "Men are not afraid of being women. They are afraid of being nothing.". Thanks for writing this. I feel saner for having read it. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 23/07/20 07:09 AM |
| 10 | Boys physically abused more than girls....gender-based violence is a major obstacle to universal schooling and the right to education for girls 🤦♂️Bullies/victims Bullying Experienced by Boys Bullying Experienced by Girls Bullying Perpetrated by Boys "who cares" 🚨🚨Human Rights Abuse🚨🚨 Bullying Perpetrated by Girls "this doesn't exist" "this is the patriarchy's fault" | /r/MensRights | 23/07/20 05:27 AM |
| 1 | I’m a feministThanks for coming here and engaging honestly. I hope your experience is more positive than not. There are a lot of people here who are angry, and I think some of them very justifiably, but it's not appropriate to take it out on you. I hope you don't take it personally and come away with a net positive experience. To your question: But I wonder if it would work the other way around? is impossible to answer, because there simply aren't any academic journals honestly committed to studying men's iss… | /r/MensRights | 22/07/20 06:35 AM |
| 6 | “Hi I am a feminist who likes to play a hysterical advocate because men’s struggles and rights are theoretical to me. I am here to exhaust you so I can stop progress & maintain a status quo, which serves me. I am not interested in learning, your frustration is my main goal.”"Feminism is for everyone" is what the entry level pawns say, it's gotta be the most effective untruth they spread around. It's for everyone in the same way that trickle down economics is for everyone. Whoever came up with that one rivals the person who came up with labeling everything as 1 cent less, e.g. $1.99. It's impossible to spend 5 minutes reading comments around here without seeing someone complaining they've been banned or downvoted into oblivion for asking questions in a feminist subr… | /r/MensRights | 22/07/20 05:45 AM |
| 8 | Why don't women acknowledge that men can't get away with what they can?Modern feminists can't accept that women do get special allowances from society at large (aka privilege). The core of 3rd wave feminist rhetoric is that societal privilege is a zero sum commodity and women enjoy virtually none of it, so whether they know it or not it's against their own interests to admit they have any. There's an implicit belief that the only ones who can do literally whatever they want without any repercussions are men, and when men are chastised for their behavior or victimiz… | /r/MensRights | 22/07/20 04:17 AM |
| 2 | The /AskMen sub is now banning men for saying that the sub is called "AskMen"Kudos, thanks. It's interesting how in the paper it is still essentially implicit that this is only a problem because it can effect women negatively. I wonder if feminist bias in psychology will become controversial in our lifetimes. It's like how women and minorities were underrepresented in medical research in the past. Luckily psychology isn't exactly vital, so who gives a fuck if feminist dweeb "academics" dunk on men and high five over it. I don't actually believe modern policymaking is rea… | /r/MensRights | 07/05/20 05:10 AM |
| 1 | The /AskMen sub is now banning men for saying that the sub is called "AskMen"Studies show literal gender equality is perceived by most people to be sexist against women. When women aren't given preferential treatment over men, people see it as unfair and misogynistic Any source or search terms for this? Anecdotally I tend to observe this, I'd just like to be able to substantiate it myself if it's been studied. I think it's actually extremely harmful and the more people try shape discourse to protect women's feelings the less we are able to speak about candidly and eventu… | /r/MensRights | 06/05/20 11:10 PM |
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