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Some men support feminism because they care about the women in their lives and want good things for them. They don’t want them to be harassed, paid less, taken advantage of etc. They love their sisters, mothers, daughters, girlfriends (etc.) and want what’s best for them. Seems like a pretty good reason to support feminism. Not all men have this kind of conscience, and instead are only interested in direct benefits to themselves. There are always selfish people out there, men and women. We don’t…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/26 10:42 AM
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I think you might get convicted of stalking if you don’t stop. Women don’t ‘tease’. They also do frequently initiate sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/26 09:36 PM
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Who is going to have the babies then? If all the fit and healthy women are sent to the military there won’t be enough to have babies. Men are consistently fertile and only need a few days home impregnate their wife.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/26 12:26 PM
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Women aren’t out there telling one another to neg men. Whereas RP promotes the practice as a dating strategy. The context of your example is also missing. Was it a date? A random online commenting on a picture? Did she purposefully neg you with the intention of sexually manipulating you?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/26 10:54 AM
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Respect and submission aren’t the same thing. You can be respectful while not submitting.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/26 10:48 AM
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her body, her choice, his responsibility. You don’t think women hold a tad more responsibility in terms of growing the baby & nursing it?? I don’t think women should expect men to pay on dates. That’s not justifiable to me. It seems much more of an American thing. I don’t think your characterisations of the “female-primary behaviours” are entirely accurate.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/26 02:09 AM
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Disagreeing with OP is not the same as being “game to live with such family secrets”, it just means people are acknowledging that the OP’s suggested “punishment” is disproportionate and impractical. Stop worrying about men losing out on some money and start worrying about how to protect little boys from predatory men.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/26 12:28 PM
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I don’t know about you but I’ve never seen a man doing this in real life. Not once. Reducing someone to an object is often used to describe the way men talk about women. For example using phrases like ‘I’d hit that’. It is blatantly dehumanising and objectifying. Have you got any examples of women reducing men to objects in this way? You need to remember the internet isn’t all real life. Rather than taking information from social media, try to make observations in the real world instead.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/26 03:26 PM
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Are you surprised doctors speak to people about their spouses in private?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/26 10:40 PM
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I hope you’re not accusing your grandma of being a bicycle. Next you’ll be calling mac n cheese carbonara.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/26 08:29 PM
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I really don’t think shaming criminals and paedophiles works. They don’t stop offending, they just become more secretive about it. In any case, sleeping with lots of men isn’t something to be ashamed about. There’s nothing morally wrong with it. The shaming serves only to make the men doing the shaming feel better.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/25 05:44 PM
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Trust me, if a person doesn’t naturally feel shame shaming them isn’t going to make them feel it. Shaming serves to make the person shaming feel better about themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/25 05:09 PM
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Women are solely responsible for their bodies. If you don’t like that then maybe women should be responsible for deciding if their husband has a vasectomy? Abortion isn’t even legal in a lot of places anyway. There is no way around the fact that if you have unprotected sex the baby is 50% your fault. Also your whole premise is flawed and hypocritical- if you think men not having enough access to sex is a problem why would you shame the women that provide a lot of sex? Surely you should be shamin…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/25 04:25 PM
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Feeling shame personally and shaming another person are two very different things. In fact, shaming others is just projecting your own shame on to them. If you are projecting your shame on to other people then it’s not going to be a constructive emotion for you. Because you won’t feel it.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/25 03:49 PM
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Well u/mrbones69 disagrees with you. He is the one who suggested slut shaming is relevant here.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/25 03:46 PM
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The responsibility is equal. Regardless of “access to sex”. You are brazenly blaming things on women and removing accountability from men. It is absurd to suggest that the man isn’t equally responsible for a child he creates simply because women supposedly find it easier to get sex. And some women have autonomy over their own bodies.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/25 03:44 PM
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That last paragraph basically read as ‘Men don’t need to take accountability’. If you don’t stick your dick in she won’t get pregnant. No amount of mental gymnastics is going to absolve men of this responsibility. https://www.psychologytoday.com/gb/blog/longing-for-nostalgia/201705/why-shaming-doesnt-work/amp
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/25 03:01 PM
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It doesn’t work. Usually people just engage in the behaviour more. If you are so concerned about women sleeping with men they don’t know and becoming single mothers, why don’t you shame your male friends for impregnating women they don’t know?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/25 02:50 PM
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Surely the fact the phrase contains the word “shaming” is a red flag to you? Shaming isn’t a good thing. It’s not something that should be encouraged.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/25 09:57 AM
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Come to think of it inability to take responsibility for your own actions is sexy af. You’ll have women falling over themselves to get to you with that attitude.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/25 06:23 PM
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Good, I’ll keep the 25 year old dancers to myself then.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/25 06:21 PM
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It teaches men how to manipulate women in to sex. That’s not safe. If a guy things it’s morally acceptable to manipulate a woman in to sex he is dangerous on some level. Luckily this isn’t an issue for me because I already “get pussy” (by the plenty) so I’m not about to get brainwashed by a random RP man.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/25 05:15 PM
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The initial bit that draws them in isn’t extreme. If it were immediately extreme people wouldn’t get sucked in. It’s just the classic cult thing of pretending to have simple answers to complex questions. Similar to how Jehovah’s Witnesses will knock on your door and ask ‘have you ever wondered about the meaning of life?’, but instead it’s ’have you wondered how to attract a woman?’ Then they throw the fake “answers” (Red Pill ideology) and get sucked down an increasingly extreme rabbit hole.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/25 05:12 PM
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I would view any guy who is involved in the Red Pill movement as dangerous. Not having sex isn’t inherently threatening, it’s the movements some of them get sucked in to that brainwashes men in to disrespecting women. The majority of sexless men are not daft enough to get caught up in the Red Pill movement.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/25 03:48 PM
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To steal something it has to be someone’s property. The way you describe “pussy robbery” makes it sound like women are property. They’re not. If you view it that way of course you’re going to be blue balled. Nobody wants to spend time with you. “Mediocre holes”…. What? Are you referring to women? Vile.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/25 03:44 PM
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The women you describe, or “sex havers” also miss out on things in life, just not always the same things. I am going to be really honest - if not having sex was my biggest problem in my early twenties I would be glad. That would have been much easier than spending my twenties raising a disabled child, getting them to doctors appointments, getting the right education in place and the legal documents, changing a 5 year olds shitty diaper while being kicked in the face, wondering if this kid would …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/25 01:04 PM
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there probably is a woman somewhere who does not do this Everywhere. The vast majority of women are not abusive in the way you describe. You really do need to go to therapy though if all your relationships are like this. It’s not uncommon for a person to have a pattern of abusive relationships. Usually it is women, who get mocked and blamed by misogynists for not “choosing better”.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/25 12:37 PM
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If every woman you’ve dated has done this then you really do need to work through this with a therapist before you enter another relationship. This is the same advice I would give a woman who keeps ending up with abusive partners.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/25 11:56 AM
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I think you are attracted to women who subconsciously remind you of whoever was barging in to your room when you were studying. I’m curious on what you mean by “flip out”. Do you have an example?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/25 11:29 AM
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That’s simply not true. When I dated men I always split the bill. The thing of expecting man to pay still is quite an American thing. In a lot of places in Europe it’s pretty normal for women to pay half. Paying for a date isn’t romantic. Taking your girlfriend back to the same restaurant you had your first date to celebrate a relationship anniversary would be romantic. Or taking her to a restaurant she once mentioned she really wants to visit, that would be romantic. Paying for stuff and being …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/25 10:31 AM
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I saw your initial post and didn’t comment because I don’t really on here much. Lots of things are very difficult to explain to people who have not had similar experiences to you. It is particularly difficult when you are starting from a point where the person you are explaining things to sees things in very black & white terms. Some women are very intuitive with this, others are not. Here are some examples of when I sense toxicity: 1) a slight look of disgust or anger. For more information on t…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/25 01:10 AM
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Cold approaching is not the thing, but sticking strictly to dating apps is a bad idea. Other social settings may be suboptimal and imperfect, but so is life. Waiting for the perfect time isn’t a good strategy either.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/25 11:21 AM
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I think there are plenty of women who do not experience romantic relationships. The problem is that a lot of men simply don’t notice or acknowledge their existence. They only pay attention to attractive women. The ones who see unattractive just don’t really register on their radar. I do feel sympathy for older virgin men but ultimately it only affects you. If it’s the biggest issue in your life then you are lucky. Women are often dealing with caring responsibilities that affect other people incl…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/25 04:51 PM
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In heterosexual marriages women initiate the divorce in 70% of cases. Women are more likely to file for divorce. It makes sense then that in marriages containing two women the divorce rate will be higher. Women seem to care more about whether their relationship is healthy, they are less willing to stay in unfulfilling relationships. The fact you think it means women “can’t get along” reveals the true misogyny at the core of RP.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/25 02:17 PM
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I’ve seen videos on it from women YouTubers who are criticising her. It’s concerning that she didn’t think twice about posting it online. I’m a millennial and I can think of at least 4 times I’ve been (definitely) intentionally “flashed” by men at no point did I think the appropriate response was to whip out a camera. I wouldn’t put it past him to have done this on purpose, exhibitionism is real. It’s actually one “kink” that I can say applies to me, but u don’t partake because it’s a violation …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/25 01:27 PM
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Unless you don’t socialise you definitely know autistic women. They may not realise or be open about it themselves. They will know they are different but won’t know what it is and they will have a very frustrating time socially. Usually in schools, workplaces etc autistic people do find each other.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/25 04:42 PM
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It depends on the woman. Some do. But I have seen a lot of RP identifying guys complaining about women complimenting each other too much.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/25 04:28 PM
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I was just trying to avoid saying his work is a load of bs. Apparently neurotypicals don’t take well to such direct communication though.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/25 04:24 PM
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It’s based on a debunked gender essentialist theory from Simon Baron-Cohen. I could never take it seriously because my male autistic child was so feminine and unsurprisingly is now trans. Lots of trans people on both sides are trans. Gender is socially constructed and autistic people just don’t socialise in the same way neurotypicals would.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/25 03:41 PM
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You haven’t understood correctly. I was saying non autistic women are fucking mean to autistic women. Not everything is about conflict between gender. Baron-Cohen’s theory on the “male brain” is not fact. There are a lot of feminine autistic women and feminine autistic men. A lot of a trans autistic people too.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/25 03:36 PM
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I was very much with you on this…. Until you suggested women are understanding of autistic women. No they are not. They are fucking mean. Incredibly cruel to autistic women. They will make entire group chats to talk about how much they hate a woman because she didn’t follow the exact correct social steps. Or because they decided to superimpose meaning on to what she has said. You have identified a huge injustice, but it’s not remotely related to gender. It’s a different, separate social justice …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/25 02:50 PM
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I don’t understand how TRP manages to flip things upside down so royally. Typically men were not held to any standards in terms of appearance. A cold, hard fact is that women have always been held to higher beauty standards, and their other achievements and qualities are belittled. It is not okay that the standards for men’s appearance are becoming stricter the way they always have been for women. Women’s beauty standards don’t only affect dating producers though, they dictate how a woman will b…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/25 02:03 PM
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No but they’re at least looking for someone they like. Do you want women to just resign themselves to spending the rest of their lives some random man they don’t even like?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/25 03:57 PM
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I think they are women with more “traditional” values.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/25 08:16 PM
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You are the second person who assumed the country was China or Russia. Governments are manipulative and coercive. Of course they manipulate their own people too, regardless of the origin half this stuff is just moral panic and divide and conquer. The worrying thing is how many people can’t see through it.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/25 10:19 AM
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Yep. I was even married to one once.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/25 09:58 AM
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Dude stop confusing women with allistic people.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/25 02:05 AM
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1) sex and romance are intertwined for most people 2) men (not all men) do aggressively pester women for sex regularly. They also care about it so much that they have created entire movements around the fact they’re not having as much of it as they like.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/25 02:03 AM
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I’m pretty sure the “cultural/gender war” is actually stemming from other powerful places in the world that want to reduce the power of those in the west. Classic divide and conquer. A load of the bot accounts that got involved in the Depp v Heard case were previously used to influence election outcomes in certain countries.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/25 01:02 AM
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I think you might be missing a crucial detail as to whether the man remains as enthusiastic about the friendship after the move is made and boundary set. If he continues to be your friend then fine. He likes you as a person and wasn’t just hoping for sex. If you considered him a friend, but now he knows there will be no sex he’s not interested in being your friend, well that’s offensive.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/25 12:58 AM
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You know what else is a successful phenotype? Being a respectful, caring man. They are literally everywhere. All the men in my family fall in to that category, lots of my friends husbands. Modern life is determined by complex social and psychological factors. If someone is being abusive to their partner it is their fault. They are responsible for their own behaviour.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/25 10:14 AM
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I think those men were destined to be creeps anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/25 05:18 PM
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What I want you to do is open your mind to different perspectives. What about my comment makes you think my reply is “based on emotion”? Can you be more specific?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/25 05:17 PM
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Your only response is to criticise a typo? Really?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/25 08:04 PM
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By mind reading I think.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/25 05:59 PM
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I don’t think you understand the process of leaving a violent partner or the kind of manipulation and control that goes on in these dynamics. I’m not sure where you got that statistic, so I can’t comment on its validity. However, it is objectively true that the majority of society, including men, do not feel the need to go looking for research that blames men’s violence on women. To be out in search of that means you are quite far down a misogyny spiral.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/25 05:56 PM
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Sorry what??? Where did I state the “most dangerous demographics”? Do you or do you not think that intelligent people hide their crimes better?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/25 05:50 PM
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Can you expand on what you mean by that?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/25 05:47 PM
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How do you know anything? I’ve completed evidence based courses on family violence and intimate partner violence. It can quite literally take years for someone to show their true colours. The nativity on this sub is scary.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/25 05:42 PM
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What are you talking about?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/25 03:42 PM
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How? How do you know if someone is going to turn out to be bad? Often it isn’t revealed until much later on the relationship. I think it should be mandatory to teach people about abusive relationships in school…. Would also be nice if people actually learned about them before using this forum. There’s this strange naivety that goes on where men on this sub think they are immune to being conned, and everyone else should be as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/25 03:41 PM
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Yep. They don’t care though.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/25 03:27 PM
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It sounds like you are essentially blaming women for the existence of bad men. Nope. I don’t think it’s supply and demand. I think bad men are responsible for their own behaviour and mistakes and will go to excessive lengths to avoid taking responsibility. Like blaming their character on women’s demand.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/25 03:24 PM
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They don’t respond when you stay stop or try to fight them off though. They just continue on and overpower you with their strength. Like literally no response to hearing the “no” or “get off”. It’s like they are in a trance. Something in them has decided they are going to have sex with you and they literally ignore all efforts to stop it. The tea video puts it very simply. If you can’t understand it then I would question your ability to understand how to conduct yourself in an adult relationship…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/25 01:54 PM
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Hate to break it to you but humans are complicated - yes they can hold two contradictory thoughts in their head. That’s normal. If you look in to Internal Family Systems therapy you will get an idea of what I’m talking about. We have different parts to ourselves that want different things.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/25 01:34 PM
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There were already books teaching men how to manipulate women in to sleeping with them. The whole PUA movement started long before 2009. I think the internet has spread information in a more concerning way though.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/25 01:31 PM
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The entire sample for OKCupid consists of people who use dating websites/apps. A lot of people don’t. So they aren’t included in the sample. If you are someone who isn’t well suited to dating apps then don’t use them. What exactly is it about dating apps that is such a devastating indictment on women’s dating preferences?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/25 01:30 PM
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So full disclosure I don’t have attraction to men, but in my experience sometimes physical attraction is instant, sometimes it develops. For example I had a girlfriend a couple of years ago. The night I met her I wasn’t attracted to her, instead I was attracted to her friend. But as I got to know her and she displayed kind of this confidence and leadership like in a group on the dance floor she would lead the way and push through the crowd. She made decisions quickly and confidently. I started f…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/25 01:12 PM
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If you go through life believing that all abusive people are abusive in all aspects of your life you are going to get in big trouble. People are definitely secretly abusive. If they weren’t secretive about it they wouldn’t have a career or any social networks. People including women you may be interested in can have another side to them that you would never guess was there. You need to be careful. This is a pattern that is very well documented, pretty much any documentary about a scammer on Netf…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/25 06:41 AM
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Fanfiction. How come that violence doesn't come out when their "control" is disrupted at work, on the road, on the streets, or with their friends and family? Because they are too smart to do that! They hold it in. Being violent in public is not an intelligent decision. You have no idea what is going on inside someone’s mind from the outside. It would be much easier to deal with if it were only the ones stupid enough to get caught doing stuff. You are literally arguing that the demographic that i…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/25 05:58 AM
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You know what is correlated with being a virgin in your 30s: high intelligence, having a graduate degree, no criminal history, and not doing drugs. You are describing people who are risk averse to a point they avoid the risk of being rejected by a woman. They might not even risk socialising at all. They create an environment they have total control over. Which is fine. Nobody gets beat up. But if they somehow get a girlfriend and she moves in and disrupts that control the anger comes out. There …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/25 05:12 AM
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It seems like every “woman beater” is constantly in a relationship, but if they aren’t in relationships who are they going to beat? There are millions of men out there who would probably beat a woman if they had one, but they can’t get laid so the women are safe. I know a lot of men already do, but let’s pretend for a minute that dating and relationships are a “game”. Generally, in games, people who cheat have an advantage. Lying and pretending to be someone you are not is cheating at the dating…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/25 03:15 PM
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Are you talking about clubs and bars? People go there to dance. I often go to clubs just to dance with friends with no intention of hooking up. Never had an issue with girlfriends doing the same. I can understand if you don’t like dancing it might be hard to understand.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/25 04:04 PM
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Because breasts. And other yummy things to munch on.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/25 03:59 PM
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So you are happy to sleep with women even if they don’t enjoy it much? Sounds like that’s your preference.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/25 03:57 PM
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It sounds like you might just be taking different opinions from different women and just behaving as if they’ve all come from one “Bluepill Mind”. People are allowed to disagree with you without having identical priorities and opinions to one another.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/25 09:48 PM
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There are different types of attractive. There’s “conventionally attractive” (plays in to all the feminine traits, depends a bit on culture, is what mainstream media favours) and then personal taste which can be a lot more varied. I personally have found the more “hot” or sexy women to be less conventionally attractive but that’s only after experience, how my body responded to theirs and how enjoyable encounters were. Some of the most meh encounters have been with very very conventionally attrac…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/25 08:43 PM
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I don’t know how men reconcile the fact that these women who are supposedly in competition for them are often are lesbians, in happy marriages, wealthy in their own right etc. They don’t need or want a man. I do feel protective of younger women. If a 29 year old was dating a 41 year old I’d raise my eyebrows and question her judgement but it’s definitely not the worst age gap example. If she was 22 that’s a different story. It’s also a huge red flag in terms of the man’s emotional maturity. I’m …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/25 01:10 PM
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Are you trying to defend the act of “pressuring” women? I don’t care if you call it coercion or not. Don’t pressure people in to sexual acts they have said no to.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/25 10:03 AM
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It is pretty confusing to keep track of it all tbh. But yeah I can see it would be very annoying to be lumped in with people who have extreme views. If someone lumped me in with TERFs I’d be furious.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/25 01:42 PM
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I think TERFs and (non autistic) RP men should shack up together and leave everyone else alone. I think the issue though is that feminism is a dating specific ideology. It’s more broadly about women’s rights. Whereas RP seems to focus on dating dynamics.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/25 01:16 PM
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If it’s not a straw man then quote where I said any DV victims don’t matter? I’ll wait. You are just attempting to avoid admitting that men are more dangerous DV perpetrators than women are. This is an exercise in understanding proportionality and perspective. You are literally grasping at straws to find faults in lesbian relationships. Why? That’s interesting to me. And no, there are masses of women who no longer date men purely because of the rise in Red Pill ideology. Trust me, you’re shrinki…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/25 11:16 AM
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Idk my mood is a bit too inflammatory to be around that level of straw man. You are insulting to the hundreds of women who are murdered and permanently disabled by their male partners every year. Bottom line is gen z women are being pushed away from heterosexual relationships because of the RP. TRP is actually shrinking the dating pool that they’re already dissatisfied with.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/25 10:45 AM
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What are the statistics of murder and serious violence?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/25 10:17 AM
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What I’m reading is that OP is pointing out young women are dating each other, rather than RP men. They aren’t necessarily comparing lesbian relationships to heterosexual ones, they are saying they are more desirable than relationships with red pilled men. Unfortunately they end up avoiding Blue Pill men in case they are secretly RP. It’s about who you are and aren’t attracting. Not how relationships are ending.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/25 10:16 AM
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I feel very upset for a generation of men who have been groomed by Red Pill content. Particularly autistic young men. They are encountering this stuff when they are so young and don’t have any frame of reference. The Red Pill tells them they’re not good enough and won’t be able to date, before they have even tried dating. I’ve never seen Blue Pilled people talk about men the way Red Pilled men talk about women. You can’t even compare. These horrific podcasts where they attempt to humiliate women…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/25 09:53 AM
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Why are healthy relationships so hard to understand? It should be an equal partnership. Not one person before the other. If you do decide psychologically and emotionally abuse them you’ll end up repelling them and only be able to keep women who already have low self esteem. You can try going for naive younger women, but they’ll grow up and divorce you. If you think that one or the other should take priority in a relationship then you are not ready for a relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/25 09:41 AM
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Again, nor relevant. Less data, and the severity is relevant here. When lesbians are murdering, seriously maiming and raping each other at the same rate that men are doing those things to their wives, we can talk. Even if she was 9/10 or 8/10, most RP men wouldn’t have a chance. I’m using one extreme (still student) example, and only talking about myself. Lots of Gen Z lesbians like older women. I personally was quite promiscuous for years due to my circumstances (single parent) so I didn’t have…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/25 09:28 AM
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How are lesbian divorce rates relevant to this? It’s a discussion about young women dating each other. It’s not about marriage or divorce rates. RedPill men cling to these (distorted) lesbian divorce rates as if it’s the saviour of their manhood. I could give you a paragraph on why the statistics currently look like this, but since it’s not relevant to this discussion, I won’t. Anecdotally, I’m a 38 year old woman who by RedPill men’s standards would make me “old” and no longer desirable… but I’…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/25 08:25 AM
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In what way? Are you sure you’re not confusing neurotypical bullshit and feminist bullshit? They are very different things and get so mixed up in these debates.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/25 12:04 PM
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This is what got me interested in this in the first place. I’m an autistic woman, feminist, and it was blatantly obvious to me that the manosphere was specifically preying on autistic men. It had become a concern in my work as we scrabble to keep young men safe from the Red Pill ideology. I am stereotypically attractive and date women. Although I get a lot of interest from women, plenty of matches or people approaching me at parties, hookups etc I’ve only managed to have 2 relationships in the p…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/25 01:39 PM
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On the whole Red Pill seems much less able to use statistics in a meaningful way. There’s a lack of knowledge of the scientific method, I assume because many are still teenagers. They love a catchy statistic, feel validated by it, but don’t actually seem to have an accurate interpretation of the data they are presenting.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/25 01:39 PM
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You said she’s getting you to behave… in what way? What are you doing that’s “misbehaving”?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/25 01:17 PM
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USA is very individualistic, to the point of sheer selfishness. It’s not as bad in UK.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/25 02:44 PM
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That’s not good for anyone, and is a big part of what’s wrong with traditional masculinity. That doesn’t change the fact that the things you are arguing are more toxic than traditional masculinity are things that have always been expected of women. I suppose the level of hypocrisy depends on what you think should be expected of women, and you haven’t shared that yet.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/25 06:34 PM
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Er leaving your partner to make all the “important decisions” is not fair. If they won’t let you because they don’t trust your judgement (e.g. the way women weren’t even trusted to vote) then that is oppressive. But if you are just sitting back and letting her do all the research and carefully considered thinking about decisions, you are placing an unfair burden on that person. You need to take some responsibility. Being in control of a household isn’t power or freedom. Lots of women don’t want …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/25 05:51 PM
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In traditional marriage men are very much in control. While it may mean there’s pressure on them to be the breadwinner and to hide their emotions (bar anger) you cannot compare it to the subjugation and lack of control it imposes on women.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/25 05:22 PM
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All of the positive qualities chosen for that version of healthy masculinity follow the same pattern: Sacrifice yourself for others for nothing, have less boundaries, serve others and expect nothing. What you get to do is cry about it (but only in approved ways. Also never expect empathy from anyone. Get an expensive therapist that is trained to believe that mascilinity is a mental illness). The irony here is mind blowing. The things you listed are exactly what women have been expected to do for…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/25 05:05 PM
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Secretly recording them is an offence in itself. You might need to reevaluate your sense of how likely these situations are. For example how many men you know have been falsely accused? Where are you getting the information that’s leading you to believe this is a big threat to you? Following Red Pill content will definitely put you more at risk of accusations than the average guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/25 10:16 AM
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Men don’t “acquire” women, they form partnerships with them. Women no longer have to trade dignity for financial security. That’s a good thing. The only way you can really consider it a bad thing is if you think women should be having a LOT of sex that repulses and traumatises them.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/25 07:34 PM
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Use Meetup app and attend events within your areas of interest. If you go repeatedly you will see the same people and start to build relationships. My last two exes I met through a Meetup group. I’ve also got tickets for Lesbian Speed Dating tonight.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/25 10:07 AM
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I’m not RP at all. I agree they are delusional about “average” but I do think you are missing why their views are so distorted - social media. From when they are young boys they are bombarded with images of women that have been edited to remove imperfections and maximise beauty. This totally skews their frame of reference. So I wouldn’t say it’s all down to narcissism.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/25 10:02 AM
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Why are you assuming the guy in your hypothetical scenario doesn’t inspire the same “feral attraction” she had towards hookups? You cannot blame things women did before they met you for your insecurity. If you have such low self esteem that you feel threatened by past relationships then you are not ready for a relationship. You need therapy first so you can separate your self worth from the false concept of “masculinity”. If this couple stay together he will be jealous and controlling.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/25 11:39 AM
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"The way you talk here is very telling, you think you can just get a woman? What are we, pokemons???" You seem to be completely missing the point of why that’s offensive. Because it’s using language you would use when talking about inanimate objects. The sentence changes entirely if you say you want to meet a woman. The reason why men use terms like "get some" is because they want some. That's what it means that men are the more eager gender. That's what it means to want sex for sex's sake, to a…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/25 05:14 PM
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Sex is a 2 (or more) person act. If you have strong attraction to parts of a woman’s personality and imagine engaging mutually in sex that’s not objectification. If you know nothing about the woman and are imagining fucking her without engaging with her much, as if she’s an object like a sex doll, then that’s objectification. However, as I stated there’s a time and a place. If you are going to think about women purely as objects, then the time and place for that is when you are alone and wanking…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/25 10:43 AM
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I’m confused what you mean by “attack men masturbating”??? Could you clarify? Fantasising about someone isn’t the same as objectification. You don’t need to objectify women to find them sexy or fantasise about them. I don’t care what you think about when you’re masturbating, but I do expect to be treated as a human being irl. The male gaze values sexualised representations of women at all times and in all places, without acknowledging the women’s strengths, achievements, feelings etc. It’s insul…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/25 09:48 AM
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I think there are things that have truth to them but they are nowhere near as widespread or common as RP men believe. Red Pill tells you all women are xyz and you need to meet those standards or you are doomed. I agree lots of women prefer tall men, but I disagree that you’re doomed if you are short. There are some women who want wealthy men, but I’ve only heard one or two women voice that irl (I’m 38) and that type of woman would never be in my social circle. I think women do underestimate how …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/25 02:58 PM
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I can’t see the full post. I think I expect people to believe it because it’s true. I know so many women who are in relationships with nerdy men. I’ve seen how Red Pill men will refuse to believe evidence in front of them (often claiming it’s an outlier) so I don’t trust that they aren’t encountering these dynamics. They just don’t register them because of their cognitive bias. Being a nerd doesn’t mean you have to abandon your responsibilities or ignore your partner. It’s definitely important t…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/25 02:08 PM
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I think before although I knew of the existence of RP and their views it seems almost mythical, like I didn’t believe there were so many who genuinely believed the extreme and simplistic RP rhetoric. I thought any time I same across it online they were just trolling but didn’t truly believe what they were saying. It’s made me much more angry at the RP influencers and creators. I view men/boys who identify as RP much more as victims now rather than just bad people. I was already very aware of men…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/25 01:32 PM
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Judging from the prevalence of anorexia nervosa among women …. We got the memo.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/25 08:09 AM
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Because muscle uses a lot more energy than fat. More muscle = higher basal metabolic rate.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/25 04:28 PM
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Pretty hard to stay in a calorie deficit when you don’t have much muscle though.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/25 03:07 AM
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Wait till they find out some of us don’t even want a man at all
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/25 01:42 PM
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You seem to be forgetting that women have personalities. So her body be thin or her skin perfect, but in her mind she’s still a 21 year old… so you have to spend all your time with a 21 year old. The conversation will be boring. She’ll be emotionally immature, won’t share common cultural references etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/25 03:40 AM
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I have done the British version of it myself. I am well aware of what it is. It’s too late though. Hard to study when you’ve got PTSD.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/25 08:57 PM
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1m20sec in to that 9 year old video. The woman has asked a question making it clear she wants to pay for dates. Go back and listens. She HAS NOT stated she personally believes men should pay for all dates. Her question clearly shows she has no intention of expecting that. His response is totally irrelevant to her. She doesn’t want to have sex on demand and she doesn’t want him to pay for all dates. The only thing he is doing there is a demonstration of how to manipulate a woman in to feeling lik…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/25 12:51 AM
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Women don't struggle to get, they struggle to vet. No. That sentence might work if you were making a commentary on autistic people in the dating scene. Autistic men are just as vulnerable to manipulation in relationships as women. Instead of that they end up being manipulated by RP content creators instead.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/25 12:35 AM
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No chance a “niche dating coach” is out there for this. Not financially viable. Nobody would return for repeat sessions. Closest things that exists would be education on healthy relationships but that doesn’t sound appealing unless you’ve already experienced first hand an unhealthy relationship and been left with lasting distress. The answer to your question - it doesn’t make money. The male dating “influencers” on the other hand can rake in masses of money from selling a fake product.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/25 12:27 AM
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Regardless of gender, I’ve learned to spot red flags now.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/25 07:51 AM
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Oh yeah sure, it’s not the objectification women care about. I don’t even date men and I dislike the way they interact with adult content. People have different values and motivations. I’m not motivated by power in relationships. I want an equal partnership. I’m motivated by comfort, security, enjoyable sex life, laughing with someone…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/25 08:53 PM
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Oh god I wouldn’t date someone like that now! I met him when I was 19. I’m 38 now, I know better. Not touched a man in over 10 years and I’m careful with which women I date.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/25 08:12 PM
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He complained several times a week about it. Even when we both worked the same hours and I was earning more than him. If he promised to do some he would feign incompetence and then eventually call his mum to come over and do it for him.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/25 07:17 PM
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I’m a woman but my preferences changed after I got drunk and slept with a larger woman. Now I prefer women who are overweight.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/25 10:00 AM
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I wish there was a real dating manual. One of the ways RP hooks people in is by claiming to have the answers to certain questions. It provides sort of a manual for dating which, for autistic people in particular, is very appealing. We struggle so much naturally, we just want something that explains how to get a partner. Alas, such a thing does not exist. Each person would have a different manual with different instructions because we are all different. I’m newly single and dating and I just real…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/25 09:54 AM
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This is a pretty impeccable summary. And they think the way to get there is by attacking women’s self esteem. I don’t know how they justify it to themselves. It’s an incredibly immature approach to relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/25 03:39 PM
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You mean like the word “hoe”, which is used extensively in rap music?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/25 10:25 AM
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These figures are from Rape Crisis. Are you trying to suggest that women perpetrate as much as men do? I’m struggling to understand how you reconcile this with the fact that men have much higher sex drives and are therefore more likely to commit sexually motivated crimes.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/25 05:15 PM
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I assume by saying they “make their trauma their whole personality” you mean it’s a core part of their identity. I have nose rings. Septum was done specifically to attract lesbians and deter men. My nostrils were just because. I know loads of women with septum piercings. They don’t talk about their trauma. They are all queer though.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/25 03:06 PM
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The figures I gave were for sexual assault, not rape.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/25 02:56 PM
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Yes. Actually earlier in the week I was so disgusted by a group of 3 men that I moved seats on the train. They smelled, didn’t have their trousers pulled up so hairy bum crack on display. Stood way too close to me. I was sitting and they were standing so their arses were almost eye level for me. I was thinking I’m less than a metre from this man’s bum hole and it repulsed me.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/25 12:03 PM
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Um… what? Not a hope in hell that I’m going back and forth on this with you. It takes pretty complicated mental gymnastics to suggest women are not justified in being afraid of men, or that men are equally affected by sexual violence. They’re just not. I don’t understand why some men can’t accept this? It makes it impossible to take points raised by anti feminist men seriously. If 1 in 4 women have been victims of sexual assault, isn’t it justified for a quarter of women to be scared of men? The…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/25 10:16 AM
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It’s a job that attracts people who seek power.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/25 10:28 AM
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Obviously that’s not an average SAHM. Most women I know who return to work after maternity leave (in my country there are 52 weeks of mat leave) consider going to work as a “break”. This is certainly my experience. At work you literally get designated breaks, something that can’t happen at home with a child. You can go to the bathroom without being followed. Nobody is screaming and crying at you about something frustratingly irrational. If you are sick you can take a day off. You aren’t the only…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/25 10:27 AM
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While I did just use 30% as an example, convictions for violent crimes are not a reflection of the proportion of men that pose a threat to women. - if the crimes are reported they are largely investigated by male police officers. They are not impartial. In fact where I live male police officers have been convicted of murder, kidnap and sexual assault of women. - the statistics you are using seem to focus only on those classed as violent crimes. There will be a lot more crimes that are charged di…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/25 10:03 AM
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Because Red Pill man keep telling them to “choose better”.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/25 07:01 PM
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You are confusing this a bit. I don’t think many women think it is most men. It’s that the behaviour you describe is intolerable in any measure. So even if it were 30% of men who were dangerous, walking in to a room with 100 men you know 30 of them are dangerous. Do you feel safe? I don’t date men.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/25 12:19 PM
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Well generally men are more risk takers than women. I think the difference here is perspective. I’m 38, I’ve experienced severe social anxiety, bullying, inpatient treatment for mental health, plus a lot of intense hardships associated with my ex husband and child, and health challenges. I’ve made it through. All this puts my dating woes that I used to obsess over in to sharp perspective. I get the idea OP is a lot younger and maybe hasn’t had as much adversity to battle against.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/25 10:14 AM
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I had an 8 week fling that cost me a large part of my social circle. Really good sex though. This stuff happens in life. You need to weigh up the risks. If you are too risk averse you won’t have a sex life. If you think your closest buddies would ditch you like that then yeah that’s worrying. But periphery people who are not in your close circle change over time. People in your close circle can also change and sometimes that feels really painful. But ultimately you are still going to be you afte…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/25 07:20 PM
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The main reason is I’m gay. But I did used to date men and I stopped. I found that the sex wasn’t enjoyable, they didn’t have any sexy bits like boobs or nice bum. You never know what you’re going to get - micro penis, 2 pumps then done etc. With women you choose what you use and can have different ones on different days
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/25 05:51 PM
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I don’t think you understood what I was saying. I was saying women can indeed assault men as badly. It’s just not as common. Which it’s not.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/25 04:55 PM
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Men protrude and penetrate, in ways that women biologically do not. This makes it far more difficult for a woman to violate in the same manner. Of course, I forgot women don’t have hands. (Or fists). /s Men have holes, women have hands that can protrude, they also have access to objects. All that said, I do think women are much less of a risk to men in that capacity than men are to women. But your logic about PiV is nothing short of an admission that you’re shit at sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/25 04:01 PM
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I pray for your future sexual partners.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/25 11:11 AM
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I don’t actually see people using the term NPD very often. I’m sure it happens occasionally, but what seems more common is people have become aware of NPD, and then whenever they see the term “narcissism” or “is narcissistic” and think the person means NPD.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/25 05:28 PM
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People seem to get very confused with how the word “narcissism” is used. It existed long before the DSM introduced the concept of “personality disorders”. Saying someone is narcissistic is not the same as saying someone has NPD. “Peter Pan Syndrome” isn’t even in the DSM as a diagnosis. I don’t live in USA, but I think it’s unlikely the presence of narcissistic behaviour and Peter Pan like behaviour is driven by mental disorders, rather it’s the product of capitalism and social media. Yes, it’s …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/25 04:59 PM
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Have you ever actually been to a club and danced with your friends? It’s really fun for a lot of people. The collective enjoyment of music (dancing & singing) is really socially fulfilling for people. It’s not about getting attention from guts. It’s about groups of people bonding and having a good time. You’ve obviously missed this and think it’s just about getting “validation”. You are missing the social aspect of it entirely.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/25 04:00 PM
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It’s really interesting the way you have framed this. Using words like “fault” and “failure”. We are not born knowing ourselves. Our experiences teach us about ourselves and others. People continue to (personally and emotionally) grow and mature well after their 20’s. Some don’t. Those who don’t and get stuck in their early 20’s will be left behind by partners who are maturing. It’s unfortunate but not every unfortunate event needs to be accompanied by blame or judgement. The way this is framed …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/25 03:53 PM
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Long time since I dated men but I am excellent at predicting which men will turn out to be assholes. crossing boundaries / pressuring love bombing using PUA techniques all his ex girlfriends are “crazy” has issues with what his gf wears seems “too good to be true”. obsessed with money and appearance bad relationship with his mother emotionally manipulative is attracted to women who clearly lack confidence things moving too quickly
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/25 05:29 PM
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What does Dorothy do that earns her enough to support 3 kids single handedly and still afford enough to food to stay over 250lbs? Femcel grind. The obvious thing you are missing here is that sex is not Dorothy’s priority. She has adult responsibilities. Meanwhile being celibate is the Incel’s biggest problem in his life. The irony of all this is that I have been called a Femcel on here the same week I’ve hooked up with a hot 23 year old woman that the Incel is scared to talk to. (Disclaimer: I f…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/25 06:42 PM
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You used the word “most”…. With the weak qualifier “(not all)”… that’s not getting you very far away from treating women as a monolith given then context you’ve set it in. e.g. The only way to protect yourself from relational aggression coming from women is to: - Always agree with women and basically become a status quo supporter of whatever the current thing is. You are essentially insinuating that women are sheep and will go with the majority, and if you don’t, you’re fucked. This obviously fa…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/25 05:39 PM
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What??? You’re really pushing the “women are a monolith” theory aren’t you? What do you think is the “status quo political movement” at the moment?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/25 04:41 PM
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How do you choose which women to always agree with?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/25 04:17 PM
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These girls don’t only target boys. It’s some sort of fucked up neurotypical bonding ritual I think. They target other girls and women as well, long in to adulthood. There are grown women who engage in “mean girl” behaviour. In professional settings, and any place where women/girls congregate. I’m autistic which always made me a target. I would be very interested to hear from the perpetrators of this behaviour. How do they rationalise it? How do they convince themselves it’s okay? The worst psyc…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/25 04:02 PM
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Sex and affection are not the same as financial stability. Sex and affection aren’t things that you build over time. If a woman sacrifices a career while in partnership with a man, then yes, of course she should get alimony. She missed the opportunity to build her career over those years.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/25 02:54 PM
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I think they’re the products of too many Disney movies. Popular culture has put so much emphasis on marriage being the ultimate goal for a reason. Get women stuck in marriages. That said, I never really understood the interest in it. When I got married my step mum planned the whole wedding, I wasn’t interested.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/25 02:47 PM
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Fail the test? LOL Tell that to my stalker ex husband who had a 2 minute dick. Don’t worry, my girlfriend is pretty satisfied.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/25 07:39 AM
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Sex isn’t a promise - it’s a test. No it’s not. It’s a bonding activity where people are sexually stimulating one another. Bad sex is common. Bad pairings are common. Someone can be crap in bed for one person but amazing for others. People vary a lot in terms of sensitivity, erogenous zones etc. If sex is not mutually pleasurable then people move on. This post seems to have twisted that and is attempting to create insecurities for women… as if men aren’t also capable of disappointing sexual perf…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/25 09:21 AM
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Omg. This take comes almost exclusively from men who don’t spend time with women. The vast majority of women remove their makeup before going to sleep. If you spend 24hrs with a woman, you’ll see her without makeup. She’s not being deceptive or hiding anything. You know makeup exists. You know women use it. You know your own hair doesn’t grow in to that style naturally and your beard doesn’t shave itself. Women are also aware of these facts. The issue here is you don’t see women as human, so you…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/25 04:03 PM
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For data collection reasons. You’ve already been told this.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/25 09:23 AM
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I don’t think you are understanding me. You realize that we don’t have a special charge with more lenient punishments for people who murdered others while they were experiencing psychosis? Yes we (UK) do. It’s called manslaughter on the grounds of diminished responsibility.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/25 07:49 AM
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He’s a stubborn neuroscientist by the sound of things.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/25 10:03 PM
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There is nothing about UK law that supports your opinion. I’m assuming Canada also has infanticide laws to cover postnatal psychosis. If you want to compare sentences men and women get it’s better to chose an offence that both men and women can commit.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/25 09:52 PM
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There are no mothers in the UK getting 5 years in prison for murdering their babies. Where on earth have you got that? You mentioned “too stressed”, in which case you may be referring to mental illness like postnatal depression. PND is caused by biological processes. One of a number of diseases actually. I have a condition which isn’t psychological or related to any of my reproductive organs, that was triggered by childbirth. It’s a massive shift in hormones and such an ordeal for the body that …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/25 09:37 PM
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When I was married I had a lot of sex I didn’t want to have. The majority of it actually. I did it as a preventative measure. I said a no’s too, but it is often easier to go along with it than to face the repercussions. I have never lived with a woman, but if I’m meeting up with someone I’m seeing I will usually tell them in advance if sex isn’t on the cards that day. That kind of avoids the situation. I have only ever had women ask explicitly for consent and they all have, every time. Similarly…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/25 09:19 PM
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People don’t ask for consent to avoid sexual assault allegations, they ask because they want to be check the person they are with also wants to do the thing. I ask women for consent during sex but not because I’m afraid of false allegations(!), it’s because I want to subject her to something she won’t enjoy.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/25 09:05 PM
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I find it highly unlikely that someone with a masters in engineering will would want to date the kind of person who thinks that about engineers.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/25 08:53 PM
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Most people make friends at school, university, work or through other groups they are interested in. You stay in touch with the ones who share your values. While spending all your time going to “concerts, festivals, drinking, parties etc”, definitely do a lot of that in your 20’s. In their 20’s most people have something that makes life worthwhile - freedom. Most are free of health issues or responsibilities that limit their freedom. It’s good sense to work towards goals in your 20’s and not spe…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/25 08:44 PM
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Good for you
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/25 03:57 PM
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I’ve never associated women as being more homophonic. I do believe the patriarchy has used trans women (in particular) to pull the age old “divide and conquer” on feminists though. These issues have been blown out of all proportion in terms of how much they actually affect women, meanwhile other real feminist issues have taken a backseat. Like the vast majority of violence against women that is perpetuated by cis het men. I do think there are ways around the sport issue. For prisons I can say ba…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/25 05:34 PM
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No hybristophiliacs do not usually hate/despise unattractive incels, they don’t register them because they provide them no value, and they only care about people who they can use. Have you heard of the YouTuber Bose vs. The World? I love her. She’s a true crime YouTuber. She usually does deep dives in to female killers and has a special kind of disgust for the people you are talking about - hybristophiliacs. I watched one of her videos a couple of days ago on some woman named “The Inmate Hopper”…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/25 02:43 PM
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I’m just being realistic. In psychology it is referred to as “The Shadow Self”. We all have it. You can deny its existence but that honestly just makes it sound like you aren’t aware of your own misgivings. I’m not “making it okay” to do morally grey things, I’m just being realistic. You mean education from family etc. I was raised with very defined morals and I am still incredibly careful most of the time to always do the right thing. Part of doing the right thing is admitting you aren’t perfec…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/25 07:07 PM
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No, not everyone, not me, not many people I know, depends on your education ; culture and personal values. How does your education affect it? All you are telling me here is you don’t take accountability for your actions and you don’t self-reflect. I suppose everything is everyone else’s fault, never yours.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/25 06:27 PM
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I’m not moving the goalposts. I said everyone does morally grey things and when I said it I wasn’t referring only to relationships. I meant in general. I haven’t moved anything. You interpreted it incorrectly. You’ve now said you have had plenty of problems in relationships, which makes me wonder if we asked your exes do they agree you haven’t ever done anything morally grey?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/25 04:20 PM
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What? I genuinely do not know the penis size of any man I speak to. Maybe you see them in urinals. If you’ve got a small dick you won’t be treated any differently by me because I have no fucking clue. Being gay is certainly something some people try to hide, but it’s not easy to conceal. Often people refer to a “gaydar” and can notice from the voice, or just by talking about their partner/spouse. People will know you are gay unless you lie about everything. I don’t understand why you think it’s …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/25 04:16 PM
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That’s not morally gray it’s morally wrong. Everyone does morally grey things. Men also do a lot of morally wrong things like sleeping with other women. The Red Pill would surely tell you that you should have chosen better.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/25 04:11 PM
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How can you possibly treat someone differently because they’ve got a small dick if you don’t know they have a small dick? It is nothing like being gay. It doesn’t put you at danger, it doesn’t cause your family to disown you, it doesn’t stop you getting jobs, it doesn’t change the way you are treated in a professional environment. Small dick energy refers to someone who is insecure about their masculinity. That is completely different to a body part. ‘Small dick’ refers to a body part, ‘small di…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/25 03:58 PM
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You have definitely done morally gray things. I didn’t specify they have to be relationship based. People often haven’t had experience of relationships, in which case they haven’t done morally grey relationship stuff. Also - loads of people don’t have insight in to their imperfections. They don’t acknowledge there was anything wrong with what they did, even though it is obviously morally very dodgy.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/25 03:53 PM
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How could you write that whole thing and not mention how much of a problem objectification is for women. Not being seen as people, but just as objects. It’s dangerous, because if you don’t view someone as a person then you don’t treat them as such. If people stopped viewing you as human and stopped valuing any of your opinions, skills, wishes etc and only valued your appearance, it would get tired really quickly.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/25 03:30 PM
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Morally questionable is highly subjective. But also, everyone does morally questionable things at times. All men. All women. So that’s not really a shocker.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/25 03:02 PM
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I have already said it is indeed going to be very upsetting for people with small dicks. A penis is a thing. It is not an identity. Adding the word “energy” completely changes the meaning of the word. It is very different to pointing at someone’s actual penis and saying “haha that’s so small”. They can’t change the size of their penis. They can change their energy. Gay is part of your identity, it’s something you can’t change or hide. It affects all of a persons work, social and private life, an…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/25 02:58 PM
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Obviously it varies a huge amount depending on the man, but too many of them are looking for a caretaker.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/25 10:11 AM
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How do you know they all cheated? Where are you finding your friends? This isn’t typical of most women. Women don’t all always cheat, and those who do don’t go around telling people about it. What are you doing to extract these confessions out of them.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/25 10:10 AM
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No it’s not. Using “gay” in any insult is disgusting because gay people are actually oppressed, and using it as an insult perpetuates that oppression. Also, I did not say using “small dick energy” is “fine”, I said it’s not the same as insulting their actual dick.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/25 09:46 AM
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people with cerebral palsy cannot control their condition. gay people cannot choose their sexuality people with small dicks cannot control their penis size, but they can control their behaviour (energy). If the insult was simply “small dick” that would be ridiculing a body part and would fit with you reasoning better. Because it is “small dick energy”, something that is entirely within the person’s control, it’s not the same thing. Gay implies being gay is a negative attribute. S word indicates …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/25 09:03 AM
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There is psychological research about it. People who are not toxic don’t activate the same parts of the brain. It doesn’t feel exciting. According to my therapist healthy relationships often feel boring to people who have been abused. They associate love with extreme swings in emotion. Like… I don’t really get hybristophyilia but human psyche is weird. I do believe it is morally wrong to simp over people like Chris Watts and Ted Bundy. BUT fortunately we have autistic people in the world and I a…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/25 07:20 PM
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I think that’s wise.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/25 07:06 PM
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Trying to insult me and take a jab at me is 10000% more embarrassing. Read back your responses. You are providing no content or discussion, you are just desperately trying to insult women on the internet to make yourself feel better. And the south of where bro? South of the equator?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/25 05:52 PM
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Autistic people don’t need to become more comfortable socially, neurotypical people need to become more comfortable with autistic people and stop judging us. You can’t reform psychopaths. They shouldn’t be getting conjugal visits.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/25 05:49 PM
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No it’s not being an advocate that gets you laid. It’s the social change that will mean future generations of autistic people are not discriminated against and don’t have their behaviours labelled as “creepy” etc. They won’t have such low self esteem, they will find it easier to meet other autistic people, there will be more autistic spaces where they can actually socialise. This generation has to do the work though and really get the movement going.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/25 10:11 AM
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WOW I didn’t realise this was happening. This is desperation from the Manosphere. They cannot accept women can be happy without them. It’s all propaganda.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/25 08:49 AM
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Data. We need data. I think women fall for them because they are similar to their fathers and they subconsciously feel they can “fix” them. It’s a deep wound in their subconscious. To them on the surface they probably don’t know why they are attracted to them. IMO if all the autistic young men turned their attentions away from TRP and instead focused it on advocating for autistic rights and ending autistiphobia, then the next generation of autistic men would have much better sexual prospects.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/25 08:44 AM
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Do I know you? “Honey” is a very overly familiar term. I wouldn’t speak to women you don’t know irl like that, they’ll find it creepy.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/25 08:37 AM
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Gay people face systematic oppression and overt discrimination. This used to be a daily occurrence for a lot of gay people (including older Millennials). No I have not studied data relating to penis size. Surprisingly. If you would like to compare the data regarding violence against men for being gay vs violence against men based in penis size, be my guest.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/25 08:34 AM
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The most logical answer is that they themselves are abusers. Blaming everything on the victim is their way of clearing their conscience. I’m sure there are a lot who use this argument that have just picked it up from the internet somewhere but not actually abused anyone themselves. But a lot of them just conduct their own relationships like this so they can’t accept it’s wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 09:11 PM
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Because disabled people and gay people (I’m both) are systematically oppressed and in the UK (where Scope operate) they are both characteristics protected under the 2010 equalities act. Having a small dick isn’t a protected characteristic. You can go through life with nobody knowing apart from sexual partners. It doesn’t affect your job prospects, your safety, your access to services. Furthermore a person may not be able to choose their penis size, but they can choose how they behave and they do…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 07:42 PM
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If they had full custody of the child then yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 04:53 PM
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I think you might be overestimating safety nets vs what people actually need. No safety nets provide time, which is arguably the most valuable asset of all. It is required if you need to work, study, take care of one’s basic needs, social interaction. So once a woman has a child she is pretty trapped. If she can’t afford childcare and therefore can’t work or study she is forever stuck in the role of “mother” with no spare time for leisure or anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 03:46 PM
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It isn’t ridiculing a body part it’s ridiculing a mindset/behaviour. As I have already stated, essentially it means the person has fragile masculinity and is overcompensating.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 11:05 AM
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I think a lot of women find it threatening due to past experiences.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 11:25 PM
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Men look at women as caretakers. Most of them are used to being taken care of by their mothers and they associate this caretaking with womanhood. On the other hand girls recognise the care taking as adulthood. They don’t expect to have another woman taking care of them in adulthood. Men continue to view that as womanhood and want a new woman in their life once they’re too old to ask their mum to care for them. Basically men are looking for replacement mothers so they can be taken care of by some…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 08:14 AM
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Are you saying your sisters and cousins are sharing vibrators and telling you about it? If yes then your family has serious boundary issues. Reminds he of my ex-friend who went to sex parties with her brother, had him take her photos for content on a fetish site (he’s a fetish artist), taught him in detail how to eat a woman out and he showed her his flashlight. So weird. She kept saying since it’s personal stuff it’s it’s safer to share with family!!!
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/25 06:05 PM
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I don’t even think it’s necessarily ugly, it’s just that she’s different looking. She’s got hypertelorism. I have just watched a video of her and she’s very young, only 21 but she would do well with lesbians. She’s got Golden Retriever energy. I don’t watch things that are acted, but I would wonder that and just move on. I don’t think I’d be “distracted”. What I didn’t gather from the OP is that she’s on a TV show based on something else. A video game? I wouldn’t be surprised if the casting dire…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/25 04:38 PM
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A lot of your examples are simply things that don’t happen. BUT what you are getting at, which is men being terrified of appearing “gay” is caused by the patriarchy and overvaluation on masculinity. It’s coming from men though. Wedding dresses btw usually cannot be put on alone. A suit is easy to put on, you can’t compare it to a wedding dress with a corset or lacing and underskirts. They are usually quite heavy as well. I have actually seen a teen guy sit on another teen guys lap on the tube be…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/25 04:28 PM
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FR!!! This is only a thing if you are using it together in a lesbian setting on each other… but even then you clean it in between unless both got recent STI tests or use a condom on it if it’s a phallic one.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/25 04:23 PM
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“Distractingly ugly”.. what? I recognise she has an unusual look and I would probably wonder if she had an underlying genetic condition because I got the Medical Interest flavour of autism.. but I can’t see that it’s “distracting”.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/25 04:15 PM
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I’m echoing what others have said - people use the term ‘small dick energy’ to refer to an attitude. That is very different from ridiculing a person’s actual dick. Small dick energy refers to when a man is insecure over his masculinity and feels the need to randomly assert it. It often is associated with bitterness. Someone can have small dick energy even if they have a huge one. This has triggered a memory from yesterday which is unrelated but quite funny so I will share. I overheard my neighbo…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/25 02:39 PM
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I don’t understand where you’ve got this concept from. What’s the context? The 3 examples you used all focused on men’s desires. If a guy is pressuring the woman to have a FFM threesome and she doesn’t want to, and he cannot accept that it’s the same as asking him to do an MMF, then yes, he’s undermining lesbian sex. Not wanting to do it is fine. It’s an issue if you think it’s “different” depending on the genders involved. I can see that being very obviously and loudly disgusted by the idea cou…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/25 09:06 AM
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I’m not sure who is supposed to be denying the existence of casual sex and cheating. Everyone knows it happens. What I will point out is that a gym is not a typical environment. There are a lot of people who highly value their physical appearance (not all but more than most places) and they are reassured of their physical attractiveness by having new sexual partners. So that’s probably partly why. But also people are sweaty in gyms which causes all sorts of pheromones to be floating about.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/25 08:00 AM
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Citation is incoming from cornhub.com
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/25 07:40 AM
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Not mocked any dicks I’ve actually seen. Only ever small dick energy which is where people are insecure about their masculinity.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/25 07:32 AM
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It is something that happens within abusive relationship where the abuser avoids taking responsibility for their actions, when behaviour is called out. Deny, Attack, Reverse Victim & Offender. I’m not sure if this poster is implying men should only “accept” DARVO responses from men but not from women, or if they think DARVO is only used by women.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/25 07:29 AM
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It’s always alarming to take a few days break from Reddit and the reopen it to find these absurd statements. Beauty standards already exist. That’s why there are so many products sold to women to make them look better… because society tells them they’re only valuable if they’re attractive in a very specific way. I think most women would be pretty happy with that, all except the “top 10-20%”. How about you just stop analysing it altogether. Mindless swiping has never been a good idea. This is the…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/25 07:23 AM
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You start a reply like you can’t expect me to waste time reading whatever you’ve written. I’m an adult.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/25 07:21 PM
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Charming. What do we call female Edgelords? Edgeladies?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/25 06:53 PM
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Maybe it says something about the social attitudes among middle-class white people towards lesbianism back in the 2000’s. When I was a teenager, despite having sex with a girl and having what was effectively a girlfriend, I didn’t think I could be lesbian because I wasn’t butch/masculine. I thought I was bi and obviously it was easier to meet a man on many levels. You may have heard the term “comp-het”. There was an abject lack of lesbian visibility in the culture besides stereotypes. It was as …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/25 03:51 PM
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Whereabouts were they put to death and where? In “the west” I mean. My grandfather was born in 1909 (I am Millenial but mum had me at 40 and her mum had her at 40). I was let in to a rumour that my grandfather had a different mother to the other brothers. Some Ancestry DNA testing and rummaging through records has shown that his father was definitely who he said he was, but his birth was registered in a different part of the country to another woman (correct father). It was out of wedlock so it …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/25 03:38 PM
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This post is wildly offensive and naive. It’s very dated. I know things are a bit backwards in the USA at the moment but, really?? If you don’t know any middle class single mothers who haven’t been married for years, then you obviously don’t know that many middle class people. You are underestimating the amount of abuse that goes on. Both ways. Kids only seeing one parent because the other is abusive, people divorcing after 15 years marriage because of abuse, contraceptive/reproductive coercion……
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/25 03:24 PM
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Do you actually want an essay on why…? I could provide you with one.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/25 10:03 AM
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Despite being a lesbian I have slept with men ranging from 8”-micropenis. It matters (to me) and that’s one of the advantages of being lesbian, I can choose the size and shape of the strap. It should be noted that throughout my menstrual cycle the size & shape that feels good changes. It depends on where my cervix is chilling. The best guy I ever slept with, like the nice one who was respectful and stuff, he was proficient with tongue & hands, about 5” and I just could have done with an inch lon…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/25 02:55 PM
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Does it? Doesn’t that contradict the Red Pill concept of “alpha fux, beta bux”?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/25 01:25 PM
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Empathy relies on shared experiences. You might have more empathy for men who have had similar experiences to you? There will be things women experience that you can’t empathise with, but you can sympathise and comfort them. That’s part of what happens in a partnership. If you are unable to consider your partner’s feelings and empathise with them you might not be ready for a relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/25 12:54 PM
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You don’t think older men find older women attractive then? In that case why was my dad always thirsting over women news presenters (anchors) when I was growing up? The entire concept of “the wall” is pathetic for so many reasons. Full disclosure - I personally have dated a much younger woman. We had a conversation about the age gap and the potential for issues with power dynamics. Ultimately it didn’t work out because she was emotionally her age (24) and I was 36. I’d developed better communica…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/25 12:20 PM
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As I have aged I’ve started to find older people attractive. So someone who is 43, match when I was 23 they seemed really old and I didn’t view them in a sexual way, now I’m 38 they might be very sexually attractive to me. All that to say I think the wall is a load of rubbish.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/25 12:32 AM
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This is highly dependent on geography/local population. I can tell you how I made friends as an adult, but with the caveat that I live in a huge city, so it’s not the same as if you live in a small town in USA or something. These days it’s WhatsApp communities or Meetup events. Meetup: first find a few groups you are interested in. Could be music you are in to, religion, a particular way of life, specific interests etc. There are groups for everything on Meetup. The hardest bit is you have to at…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/25 01:00 PM
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Where are you getting these examples from? If it’s the internet I don’t think they are real. Either ragebait or a joke. Ordering dessert or not has nothing to do with gender roles at all. I haven’t heard women talk about “icks” irl much. If they do the most common one seems to be excessive displays of masculinity. I don’t date men and not attracted to them but I do cringe and recoil whenever I see men overstating masculinity.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/25 10:20 AM
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No. You are confused. You don’t have to date everyone you are attracted to. Being attracted to younger women doesn’t mean you want to manipulate them, it’s normal. Actually dating those women often means they want someone they can manipulate. It also indicates a lack of emotional maturity. I actually dated a woman who was 24 when I was 36 and she was too emotionally immature so I had to end it.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/25 04:54 AM
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What? What do you mean “edgy”? It’s a normal part of mature adult thinking to look at things from different perspectives. This is not specific to TRP. It happens in the workplace, during decision making and in the course of critical thinking. There’s nothing “edgy” about it. Since you couldn’t gather from my comment I’ll try to spell it out more clearly - the idea in the OP is that older women are “jaded”. I have pointed out that what they view as “jaded” is what I view as protectiveness. I then…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/25 07:26 AM
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Idk, it takes two to tango, whatever form of casual sex men are engaging in, women are too. Unless it’s gay sex. So what do women call ONS? Super extra casual? As someone whose entire sex life consisted of casual sex for several years, I mean ONS. Or fuck buddy where you only see them for sex/random bootie calls.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/25 04:09 AM
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Because he ever thought that it’s possible that she cheated he can’t ever get that thought to stop. Just stores it somewhere in his subconscious to cause issues that she’ll eventually have to deal with. If you get a thought that won’t stop the paternity test isn’t going to stop it. You will become concerned that she’s started an affair, or had an affair but the kid is yours, not the AP. The way to get those thoughts to stop is with therapy.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/25 02:35 AM
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I’m interested in the way you’ve framed this. What you are framing as being “jaded” is protectiveness. That’s a positive trait. Essential to survival of the species in fact. Since Red Pill seems to think evolutionary psychology is legit, I’m surprised none of you have worked that out. You may resent older women’s protectiveness towards the younger generation, but you’d better hope you marry a woman who has it in bucketloads, if you want your children to grow up safe.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/25 02:03 AM
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Yes, knowledge is power. Knowledge takes time, it’s simple. Yes of course it’s problematic if the woman is the older one. Why would it be different?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/25 04:24 AM
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It’s not assuming that they’ve selected more partners, it’s assuming they’ve had more time in the dating sphere. Even if they have only had one partner they have watched their friends go through relationships. Knowledge is power. At 30 they’ve had a lot more time to accrue knowledge. This they are more powerful. It’s really not hard to understand. We are taught from a young age to “respect our elders”.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/25 08:36 PM
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If you think about the phrase “people don’t want to hear that younger women can be consenting adults”, why? Why wouldn’t we? What would we gain from it? Have you actually heard people say that or is it hyperbole? Have you instead just heard people say young er people should stick to a similar age range? I don’t think people shame the women, just the men. I was once the 21 year old guaranteeing it was all fine. It wasn’t. The more you do something the better you are at it. Practice makes perfect,…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/25 07:23 PM
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The “vast majority” is a myth. Women genuinely do have separate brains from one another.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/25 10:29 AM
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Is it your claim that there is no knowledge that: 1- Can be learned 2- Will make you more attractive to the vast majority of women No, that is not my claim.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/25 06:46 AM
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Because it means they are insecure as a person. They do not feel good enough to just be themselves and instead they are trying to prove a point. When I see men acting very macho, I view it as a sign of weakness.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/25 12:50 PM
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Dude online is the point. We say all the shit we would get beat up for by men irl. Women’s hysteria around the subject has a disparate negative impact on the life outcomes of lesser desirable men by increasing the threshold at which these men can overcome women’s prejudice. What a complicated (Brand/Peterson-esque) way of being wildly insulting. “Hysteria”. Are you fucking kidding me. Women are scared of men generally because they’ve been raped or beat up by then. Actually, those lesser desirabl…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/25 07:03 PM
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Yep, the most they can get “trapped” with it a monthly bill. They can avoid all other responsibilities relating to their kid like being home when the kid is home unless paying for childcare, teaching them right from wrong and supporting them emotionally, continuing to care for the kid when sick… as in literally shaking with rigours from a fever* but still making a packed lunch and getting their kid in a clean uniform, bag packed and in school on time, the physical sacrifices like vitamin deficie…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/25 06:54 PM
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Of course there’s no manual. The problem isn’t a lack of manual - it’s that you need a different manual for each person. Red Pill purports to simplify something that fundamentally is not simple and cannot be simplified. It’s the same with kids. You have siblings raised exactly the same but they turn out very differently because the parenting style is suited one kid but not the other. It’s dependent on individual personality traits, experiences, strengths and weaknesses. People all need different…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/25 06:31 PM
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Dude you lost any serious response from me at “creampie”.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/25 07:37 PM
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Sure
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/25 07:15 PM
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It sounds like you are saying laws translate to social change, is that correct? My personal views are that we need to move towards equity. There is no way for us to have equality because we have different reproductive systems (for the most part). Laws affect people differently depending on whether they are likely to get pregnant, need to breastfeed, likely to menstruate etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/25 07:14 PM
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I don’t know what a cream pie is exactly but it doesn’t sound like the sperm gets to where it’s supposed to…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/25 07:06 PM
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That sounds like the sort of thing you should complain to patriarchal leaders about. I personally am opposed to conscription full stop (or “period”). I’ve always felt really bad for men who are in such a position. Overall sending women to battle isn’t a great idea because they have a limited number of eggs and men have a near endless supply of sperm. There’s also the physical strength argument.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/25 06:35 PM
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Mmmm. Like case by case I’m sure there’s a lot of guys that get manipulated. That’s not okay, but unfortunately they still have to take the punch because it’s between the man and the baby. Sorry, once it’s a screaming baby your needs come after it. Most men can walk away and only have to worry about paying child support. I am not going to be very sympathetic to men on this one because of the women I know (including myself) who have conceived through rape and deception. This isn’t a man specific …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/25 05:40 PM
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Disclaimer: none of the following is intended to suggest Neurotypicals should be forced or compelled to sleep with autistic people or date them. It is not saying being a misogynist is permissible, there are bad people across all neurotypes. Um…. Autism is only a “disability” because neurotypicals make it one. We don’t struggle with Autistic social norms, we only struggle with neurotypical social norms. If an NT were put in an environment that is all autistic people, they would struggle with soci…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/25 01:30 PM
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It’s a sign of emotional immaturity if nothing else.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/25 01:15 AM
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The body shaming is diabolical but it’s about survival, not masculinity. Your weight is a health risk. As a woman I have also been rejected due to being underweight. Or had women make really uncomfortable comments to me like comparing the sizes of our limbs. It’s not okay for them to do that. But it’s also not really okay to be underweight either. It messes with your brain and makes it very difficult to connect with people and fully enjoy life.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/25 11:48 PM
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I don’t need an emotional connection to sleep with someone, but I need one to continue sleeping with them.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/25 08:04 PM
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Happy cake day!
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/25 07:41 PM
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Where are the example of people saying “all men are…x” on this sub?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/25 07:38 PM
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Straight women aren’t always going after men. A lot of them choose not to have any romantic relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/25 07:36 PM
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It does not excuse them from accountability, but it does impact what advice we give to people. For example, if someone was wearing a Rolex in East London and got it stolen off the wrist you would say I’m sorry that happened but you would also say why did you think that was a good idea. I’m not an asshole so no, I wouldn’t draw attention to the fact it was a stupid idea. I assume they know because they aren’t a child. Thinking they need that pointed out is insulting. In that situation you are not…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/25 07:33 PM
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Depends what you are looking for and your circumstances. That’s why you have that conversation (or on dating profiles it is stated). Me personally now, I don’t date men, but the people I do date - I don’t have much free time, I’m quite a horny person, I was touch starved for years and I genuinely believe it caused some kind of brain damage. Therefore at the moment intimacy is a priority. It doesn’t mean I don’t appreciate the person or care about them as an individual, it’s just that it’s a deal…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/25 06:55 PM
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Your example was vague. Most manipulation involves a benefit. I think it’s very naive to assume you would see the Red Flags a mile off.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/25 06:41 PM
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This post isn’t specific to what it means on this sub. But also debating does usually involve sharing personal experiences. There aren’t any RP men who provide a disclaimer about their personal failings while responding to posts.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/25 06:32 PM
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So they aren’t taking accountability because they don’t specify the proportion of men who are trash??
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/25 06:29 PM
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We are assuming someone in the relationship is irredeemable, hence it’s the woman who is accountable for avoiding him. Same with men with irredeemable women such as gold diggers, it’s up to him to avoid them. Being irredeemable doesn’t excuse someone from accountability. If your girlfriend leaves you because you mistreat her, it’s your fault for mistreating her. How on earth would it not be that person’s fault. Exact same as we tell people which streets to avoid, we shame the street and the peop…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/25 06:28 PM
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Two parties have made mistakes. Both parties take responsibility for their own mistakes.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/25 06:25 PM
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Red Pill men seem to believe that a woman gains all her adult wisdom on her 18th birthday, and to suggest otherwise is “infantilising”. It’s also interesting that so many Red Pill guys think they’re immune to manipulation. It’ll bite them in the ass one day.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/25 06:24 PM
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“I cheated because he didn’t make me feel wanted” is an example. Nope - omitting her role in it does not mean she doesn’t acknowledge it and hasn’t changed behaviour. It means it would be inappropriate in that conversation to start a therapy session with some random person you are talking to. “I sold my nudes in onlyfans and the world is sexist and oppressive because they now see me as lesser” is another. Selling nudes on OnlyFans doesn’t make someone lesser. If you view women who do this as “le…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/25 06:20 PM
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What proof of the contrary?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/25 06:11 PM
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But the boy was the only one who fell, right? When things go bad between couples or dating there are two people involved.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/25 06:10 PM
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It what context do you say it out loud though? I don’t notice Red Pill guys giving an accountability disclaimer every time they make sweeping statements about women.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/25 06:06 PM
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Okay but where do you expect those questions to be explored? Usually it would be internally (asking oneself), with a therapist or a very close friend. It tends to be very private, but for some reason RP guys want to witness it.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/25 09:58 PM
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You can’t read someone’s mind to tell if they’re accountable, but using language like “every guy just wants hookups” is a clear sign of unaccountability. Is it? Why can’t accountability be shared?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/25 09:54 PM
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But you do realise very intelligent people have made bad choices right? Everyone makes bad choices at some point. Including you and me. I just put this in response to another comment. It’s a list of people who have scammed well respected individuals). Bernie Madoff (duped wealthy, prominent investors) Elizabeth Holmes (duped a former Secretary of State, Walgreens executives, Medscape Editor-in-chief and many more) Jimmy Saville (child predator who tricked British Entertainment Industry) Dr Rober…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/25 09:26 PM
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Then why do women publicly blame men? Men are also to blame. It’s not entirely a woman’s faults. People need to express anger, if you internalise it you can end up with behaviours like self harm. You don’t need to relinquish accountability to express anger. Two things can exist side by side. Believe me you can see red flags from miles away. This is very naive of you. You seem to think you’re immune. Below is a list of people that come to mind who have tricked/defrauded successful and intelligent…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/25 09:21 PM
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I’m sure many women do ask themselves and their friends the right questions. Not all women lack accountability. Most women don’t lack it. Those who do probably lack the ability to self-reflect in all areas. The kind of women who get in to these relationships tend to already have low self esteem and therefore more likely to think it’s something they are doing wrong. However, I see many posts online and even discussions irl where women will rant about how awful men are, and how there’s just no way…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/25 08:37 PM
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Had you considered women are indeed blaming themselves, they’re just not saying it out loud to you? Why does it need to be stated directly to you? DV includes the abuser blaming their victim for everything they should be accountable for. There is no way of knowing you are choosing the right person. You just can’t know. Abuse is insidious and happens gradually. Usually when people leave such relationships they carry a huge amount of shame, guilt, regret. They wish they knew the signs at the time.…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/25 07:38 PM
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How would a woman communicate the “what am I doing wrong….” To you? Like what would have to happen for you to consider that completed. Tbh I think it’s laughable to suggest women are not asking themselves those questions and discussing with other women.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/25 07:13 PM
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It’s interesting that you missed out the murder and DV statistics. Your post focuses on rape. Thinking about rape isn’t a matter of safety. You consider a “false accusation” to be a danger. Sure it’s a danger to you socially & psychologically, but it’s not a physical threat to your body/life. How can you compare them? To accurately demonstrate your claim regarding “safety” you need statistics regarding physical harm caused to men and to women. Maybe just compare the murder rates?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/25 05:27 PM
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Usually caring about people and not wanting them to suffer is enough motivation to support a cause. It doesn’t have to directly affect you. Not caring about others and only being concerned about what affects you personally isn’t normal or healthy.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/25 01:32 PM
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I never saw grooming as specific to relationships with minors. It’s a process of earning trust (falsely), developing some kind of dependence and testing the waters, to lay the foundation for abuse. While I understand you think it’s specific to children, but since it’s described as grooming by professional psychologists, I’m going to go with their classification. Your definition of sexual predator is directly tied to crimes, but inflicting psychological damage as a means to feed ego is also preda…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/25 01:25 PM
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Don’t worry, you don’t need to explain cluster B personality disorders to me. But in order to feel shame you have to actually care. Psychopaths and narcissists simply don’t care. They wouldn’t seek therapy because they’re not sad and don’t feel they have to change their behaviour. If you had made your comment specific to BPD I might see a bit more merit in your opinion. Trust me, the ones to watch are the ones who think they don’t need therapy, and their loved ones and ex partners therapists wer…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/25 11:08 PM
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Can you give any examples? Idk I’m just sensing that people want an element of public humiliation/shaming, since taking accountability in therapy and changing behaviour doesn’t seem satisfactory.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/25 02:51 PM
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No I am not cluster B. I’m interested in becoming a therapist though. What I’ve been told about narcissists is that they generally don’t go to therapy because they think everything is someone else’s problem and there’s nothing they need to change. A good therapist knows it’s not ethical to continue seeing a patient who is not making progress. I really can’t see a narcissist lasting more than two sessions in therapy. I’m autistic and I’m struggling to see what people mean by “taking accountabilit…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/25 02:23 PM
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It’s almost certainly not in the literature. You need to be careful what you read on the internet. Sources are important. Taking accountability is pretty straightforward. Admit you did something wrong, accept an appropriate amount of guilt and shame for doing such thing, make proper effort not to do it again. How do you know someone has accepted “an appropriate amount of guilt and shame”? Therapy is definitely not intended to intensify feelings of guilt and shame. It’s the opposite. People defin…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/25 09:16 AM
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Another woman I dated Was trying to convince her therapist that I was toxic because I held her accountable to what she said to me. She said that making her feel responsible for what she said to me was a form of abuse. What did she say to you? What was the outcome? Presumably she didn’t break up with you, because that what would be taking accountability.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/25 09:03 AM
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Ah, I thought you had meant documented in academic literature. What would you say taking accountability looks like. How could a person show they are taking accountability for something?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/25 08:54 AM
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Can you give some examples of alternative ways to take “personal accountability”? I’m a bit confused as to what you think happens in therapy.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/25 08:36 AM
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What would “accountability” look like?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/25 08:30 AM
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Where is this commonly documented? I’ve always read that narcissists don’t go to therapy because they don’t think they need it.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/25 08:23 AM
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Preferences are fine but do it quietly, and expect you may be single forever. Furthermore passing the time by talking about what you don’t want in a partner is often offensive. By all means make that decision but don’t get bitter towards women for not fitting your mould.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/25 08:24 AM
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Indeed. I guess at least if you are neurotypical most other people relate well to you and can empathise, since autistic people are in the minority.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/25 11:42 AM
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You could read the book “Neurotribes: The Legacy of Autism” for more in depth explanation, but essentially STEM relies on autistic minds. Autistic people often have traits which neurotypicals lack, e.g. hyperfocus, pattern recognition. STEM would be nowhere near as developed if it weren’t for autistic people locking themselves away in labs and obsessing over a particular topic. There would be no phones, TV, internet etc. Autistic people are also required for defence/security services due to our …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/25 11:41 AM
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You’re making a lot of assumptions about me and my views there. They’re wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/25 09:28 AM
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It might read like that to you, but it’s not what I meant at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/25 08:03 PM
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Context: I’m a Blue Pill feminist, autistic with a child who has severe learning disability in addition to autism. I’m also not saying anyone has a duty to have sex with anyone they don’t want to. Spinal cord injuries are not the same as autism. Autism is only a disability because of the environment. STEM relies on autistic people. Honestly I’m not convinced Neurotypicals would even have been able to come up with the wheel, they’d have been too busy gossiping about the fact someone made the wron…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/25 07:34 PM
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The “typicals” are socially dominant. I don’t think they are actually the majority. They just have particular skills in social manipulation. Everyone else either tries to be like them and passes, or get diagnosed with something. It’s likely that back in “cave man” times we needed people to watch the camp while everyone slept. Those people would have less need for social skills and more need for improved senses to listen for and see threats better in the dark… and here we are wondering why autist…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/25 06:55 PM
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Where are you getting this from? I’m so confused as to why on earth you would think I have suggested autistic people are “owed a date” or that anyone should study the DSM-5. The DSM is useless for autistic people and autism being included in it is offensive. I can see merit in having a separate “manual” of mental disorders for autistic people. What I am suggesting is people being less judgemental of social behaviour and more aware of their lack of empathy towards autistic individuals. Autistic p…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/25 03:31 PM
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I don’t know about that. It seems to focus a lot on women being less rational as people.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/25 01:50 PM
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I have only responded to you once. I think you should read up on the social model vs the medical model of disability. I view autism through the social model. It is a disability but it doesn’t have to be. Neurotypicals need to shift their norms and environment. What is important it that I’m emphasising autistic people are essential to society. We would not exist without autistic people. That very much separates it from things like injuries or medical problems.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/25 01:47 PM
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By alimony I think you mean what we call spousal support. If a person sacrifices their career and ability to be financially independent in order to support a spouse in their career (e.g. they were doing his domestic labour while he was at work) they should absolutely be entitled to ongoing spousal support and both parties should equally take a hit to their quality of life, rather than the person who didn’t work taking all the loss of quality of life. They should be responsible for their portion …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/25 12:31 PM
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I actually hate the term “masking”. It sounds like an optional extra whereas the reality is its defence mechanism to prevent ostracisation/social embarrassment. I believe the term “shielding” is more accurate for that reason. I think social expectations of girls are different and do our shields can become a bit more robust. I do agree dating is very difficult for men, with the approach aspect being an issue. However I think there are things autistic men can do to work through that. It will requi…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/25 12:24 PM
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The fact there is not an alternative is a big problem. I personally avoid the neurotypical community a lot. They just make me depressed. The suicide rates for autistic people are shocking. Suicidal behaviours also associate with masking. The people who don’t/can’t mask tend to have less depression. You are essentially choosing between low and no chance. It will still be hard for autistic men to date autistic women, but if they aren’t involved in the community and instead stick to Red Pill they w…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/25 11:53 AM
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I don’t live in USA. I feel very sorry for the autistic people who do though. Where I live we treat autistic people very differently. I Spinal cord injuries are rare whereas autism is very common. It’s your brain’s “operating system”, it’s not a disease. What disables people with spinal cord injuries is damage to something that previously worked well and gave them independence. Meanwhile you and I would not be having this exchange if autistic brains didn’t exist. We are disabled by the social do…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/25 11:44 AM
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If they spend more time in Red Pill community than with autistic groups they are definitely reducing their chances.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/25 08:43 AM
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There are often clashes for sure, most of us have a strong sense of justice and a lot of sensitivities. In my experience nowhere near the discomfort I feel as an autistic person around NT’s. I’ve been in some of the rare spaces where the entire environment is designed for and led by autistic people, and it’s wildly different. When I’m around / in NT dominated spaces I often just wish I could not exist and disappear. Like I am inherently wrong. With autistic people I just feel I can connect bette…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/25 08:37 AM
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I’m not saying autistic men don’t struggle, but they’re definitely not helping the situation. Precisely because of this nihilistic all or nothing autistic thinking. It took me years of therapy to get past that type of thinking. I am certain that autistic men have better chances with autistic women than NT women.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/25 08:27 AM
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He’s not an incel himself but they look up to him and others like him.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/25 08:23 AM
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No you’ve completely misunderstood me. I’m saying autism is NOT a defect and is essential to society existing as we know it.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/25 08:22 AM
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Cancer will change you as a person whether it affects the endocrine system or not. Hormones are frequently discussed and impact on mood is always considered when consulting with a doctor on birth control. Similarly with menopause HRT is considered. Past is an excellent predictor of future behaviour.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/25 12:07 AM
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Thank you
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/25 11:23 PM
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When you say that’s not how genetics works, can you explain a bit more? De novo mutations of course exist, gene expression is influenced by environmental factors, but autistic men are definitely still getting laid.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/25 11:21 PM
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They can be but it’s definitely genetic and there’s definitely a lot of autistic men dating and having families.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/25 11:17 PM
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Are you comparing autism to paraplegia? That’s offensive. And yes, I do educate myself on those things. However, paraplegia and blindness are very different. Society needs autistic minds, autistic people have contributed an awful lot to society, we are not defective we are just different. I’m pretty sure my paraplegic friend would classify her complete spinal cord injury as a defect.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/25 11:13 PM
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No.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/25 11:05 PM
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Obviously autistic men are having some success since new ones are being born on the daily and they had to get their autistic genes from at least one parent. Of course it’s not a universal solution, but it’s a lot more practical the descending in your TRP.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/25 10:49 PM
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What do you mean by ‘being so triggered’? Yes, health problems in general, not just hormonal ones influence people’s behaviour. How do you feel about promoting this idea when you know in the past women’s hormones were used to persecute and invalidate them? Your girlfriend had been through a lot. Cancer is scary. Of course there will be changes to her mood and well-being.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/25 10:46 PM
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Pay them? Oh. I get paid to educate them about autistic people.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/25 10:42 PM
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I associate the term to refer to men who are bitter at women because (they think) they can’t have sex. The jocks etc are getting sex, so they are just garden variety misogynists. Often people call the fuckboys.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/25 10:28 PM
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I don’t think you are trying to push people. I do think this could be something you’ve picked up from people who are trying to take reproductive rights away from women, gradually.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/25 10:21 PM
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I thought I would just straight up agree with you… I do agree that there’s a lot of ableism in dating… but I reached that conclusion with different reasoning. Specifically, replace the name and theories of Simon Baron-Cohen with Damian Milton. Damian Milton, who is actually openly autistic, puts forward a theory of Double-Empathy. This essentially says sure, autistic people have trouble empathising with neurotypicals, but we can empathise with each other, and neurotypicals struggle to empathise …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/25 10:05 PM
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Firstly if someone starts posing questions, things that are common things people wonder about, then suggests they have the answer (in this case hormones) run. That is a tool that’s used to manipulate people. It’s actually something the Red Pill does to brainwash young men. Never trust anything that’s pitched to you that way. Secondly, propaganda isn’t sudden and overt. In reality it’s a gentle shift towards changing mentalities, planting seeds. Make people distrust birth control is definitely on…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/25 09:47 PM
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Um this is …. It sounds honestly like direct propaganda to push society towards a state where women have less reproductive control. It’s scary. So many of the answers to the questions you pose (and say you can answer with the magic word “hormones) are things people are given the answers for every day, but can’t just accept it. A once affectionate marriage turned cold after pregnancy? After pregnancy people are usually exhausted and barely have time to tend to their own needs. Of course the dynam…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/25 08:32 PM
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I mean this is the mystery - how do they not see it? It’s a mix of spending more time being indoctrinated online than out socialising mixed with cognitive bias, and narcissism.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/25 08:18 PM
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The only thing that changes about women is that young women are annoying, high demand, high energy, high expectations, while the older ones are stabler. Yikes.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/25 04:52 PM
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What counts as “old” is relative to age.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/25 04:48 PM
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When suggesting something like that you have to consider the fact it costs money, even with your edit/clarification, the cost makes this impossible and therefore it can and never will be “normalised”. There is no ethical remedy to inequalities between men and women with childbirth. If it’s really important to you then it might be best to make women you sleep with aware that you have a blanket thing that you would want a paternity test for any pregnancy and it’s not that you don’t trust her.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/25 04:44 PM
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Yes, so jealous of those young women getting abused by creepy old men while I’m at the lesbian bar with someone shaking their titties in my face.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/25 11:48 AM
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Experience. Doesn’t matter how well your brain is developed, we learn from experience. It takes time to gain experience. Age = time. I can say that I would have taken a very similar view as you when I was 23. But in the 15 years since I’ve gained so much more experience which has dramatically shifted my ability to judge situations and put them in perspective. I have a much better understanding of patterns of behaviour (having observed them over time), motivations, norms in relationships vs not n…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/25 08:55 AM
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Being able to consider sex a privilege is a privilege. If your life is so simple that the biggest problem for you is lack of sex - you are LUCKY. Also being a woman doesn’t mean you can have sex any time. Some of us have responsibilities like putting food on the table for our kids, making sure there’s a bag packed in case we have to take them to hospital urgently. That sort of thing. We don’t have time for sex. A lifetime supply of carrot juice would be a huge burden. It might even be a bigger p…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/25 06:57 PM
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I am 38 now, never lied about age - what’s the point? My app was set from 30-45. My partner is 30. I have dated younger, 24 year old and accidentally had ons with 22/23 😬
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/25 11:09 AM
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No, not at all. Men and women both assess threat in this way. Selfish people lack consideration for others, that’s not what’s going on here.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/25 03:03 PM
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You were the one who started with whatabout “the risk of a husband being abused”
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/25 07:02 PM
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Obviously I wouldn’t date a man full stop. However, hypnotically if I were straight… does it affect the ability to get an erection and have sex? If they still have sex with their penis and the fluid just comes out of a different place (behind their ball sack) then I don’t see the issue.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/25 06:28 PM
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Nope. Who is most likely to be murdered by their spouse - men or women?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/25 06:16 PM
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Oh how lovely for you that you were able to just up and leave without becoming homeless and separated from your children. The irony in the context of this post is that you are replying to a comment where I am pointing out that women being able to leave abusive marriages without fear of losing custody is a positive thing. You think they should leave so what issue do you actually have here? You won’t defend an abuser, but you also won’t blame them will you? Not if they’re a man anyway. What would …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/25 05:22 PM
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How do the murder rates compare?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/25 04:23 PM
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Oooooh sorry, I didn’t realise you were an expert in DV based on seeing “abusive boyfriends in action”. Bet you got a nice certificate for that qualification. The psychology of domestic abuse is complex.often these relationships happen in the context of generational abuse - if people witness it through childhood they think that’s just how marriages are. Interesting that you are having so much difficulty placing accountability on the abusive person. Since the cheating example wasn’t satisfactory …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/25 04:21 PM
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If you didn’t understand what I was saying why did you reply in the first place?? I took a quote from your OP whinging about women being able to divorce their husbands, and I introduced the reason it’s important for women to be able to divorce men and not lose custody of their children. You can ignore and pretend not to see it, but it’s not going to change the fact that domestic violence is the reason for a lot of feminist issues. Laws such as no fault divorce protect women from being trapped in…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/25 03:37 PM
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This is a vile attitude. Essentially mocking DV victims. You need to understand a few things…. 1) we are not ONE woman, we are millions of different people with different qualities and life experiences. Often the women who can sniff out the misogynists have past experiences they learn from. 2) domestic violence is a serious problem, it’s not the same as debating who pays on a date or if women prefer tall men. It’s real life violence that causes immense suffering and should be treated with sensit…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/25 03:31 PM
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What should men who don’t want to change do? Stop being hateful towards women online. Nobody cares if you choose to stay single and all that, good for you. But don’t spew misogynistic rhetoric on social media.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/25 03:19 PM
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If your wife cheated on you would you blame yourself and it down to your poor choices of wife or hold her accountable? There is no way to tell, these guys can play pretend good guy for years.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/25 03:12 PM
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Can you explain what you mean?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/25 03:09 PM
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Erm, what? Men stop abusing women. High five.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/25 11:55 AM
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Clubs and bars only work for good looking and preferably tall men. Hookup apps like Tinder only work for good looking men. I actually mean this in a non judgemental way because I’ve been there myself - this is defeatist thinking /limiting beliefs and will get you stuck. You have already decided the outcome without even trying. If you don’t go to the club you don’t know. If you go to the club expecting to be rejected you will not give off good vibes. I didn’t mention dating apps. Trust me, once y…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/25 11:28 AM
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They don’t start off scary. Domestic abuse often begins after marriage or during the woman’s first pregnancy. Often the relationship starts when the woman is young (early twenties) and is still very agreeable and low in confidence. As she matures and starts to advocate for herself the man becomes angry and violent.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/25 11:18 AM
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Unwanted pregnancies: Conservative men have long argued that once a baby is involved, a woman no longer has a choice. Many women have rightfully pushed back, saying they shouldn’t be forced to raise a child they don’t want. Yet, when the situation is reversed, women often argue that once a baby is in the picture, a man has no choice but to be financially responsible. The woman chooses if the baby grows in her body and is born. Conservative men are salty about this. Once a baby is out in the worl…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/25 10:49 AM
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In a country where winning custody is the second strongest predictor that a woman will initiate the divorce, where women have been initiating the majority of divorces since (at least) 1867, where No, men Don’t dump their wives the moment they get sick, It’s almost as if women being trapped in abusive marriages due to fear of separation from their kids is a bad thing…. And that men are not scared of their wives in the way wives are scared of their husbands.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/25 10:31 AM
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Erm…. I get very turned on my women’s bodies and what I want to do to them. When I used to sleep with men they responded very well to (fake) enthusiasm on my part. So no, I disagree with this as it directly contradicts my experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/25 10:23 AM
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I would assume that these women are putting themselves in positions where they are more likely to meet partners for casual sex (e.g. going to clubs & bars) meanwhile the “male versions rotting away in celibacy” are staying mostly in their bedrooms, on the computer, and are excessively avoiding the risk of rejection (unconsciously). I would also think these women live in places that are densely populated therefore massively increasing the pool of people available for sex. The adjectives you have …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/25 10:18 AM
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The reason it seems this way is that because these opinions are controversial they get a lot more engagement and become more common on social media. Social media isn’t a reflection of the real world. It’s a reflection of what provokes a reaction. A lot of these comments will be from bot accounts. Nevertheless, there are so many women in the world with vastly different views on dating. There’s no reason you can’t find these women. They are not hanging out on the kind of posts selected by your alg…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/25 03:17 PM
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Is it “anti” heterosexuality though? It sounds (like I said, I’ve not read either of these authors from 60 years ago) it is not suggesting forbidding or restricting heterosexuality. It’s not proposing to ban heterosexual marriage or suggesting heterosexuality is some kind of paraphelia. They are saying that these rules around gender roles are constructed by society. How could you argue they aren’t? And why is accepting and including more men a threat to men?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/25 03:10 PM
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What are you trying to achieve by bringing these people up? We are no longer in second wave feminism. It’s 2025 not 1965. Even so, it sounds like these feminists were acknowledging social constructs which affect both sexes. The only way that makes them an “enemy” of men is if men have significantly more privileges and acknowledging to social constructs evens things out (as in it benefits women but reduces men’s power). Back to 2025 - men are trying to conform to traditional standards of masculin…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/25 03:05 PM
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Sexuality is very complicated, as is gender. If gender roles became more diverse, why does that become erase the men who want to continue to conform to traditional gender stereotypes? I just don’t feel like we are anywhere close to running out of gym bros to represent the traditional masculine cause.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/25 08:19 AM
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It feels different but I haven’t found it any more difficult to pleasure them. I can still find the clit.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/25 08:12 AM
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I think this might be the first time a RP man has acknowledged that feminists are not saying “all men”.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/25 08:10 AM
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No, you are confused. It wasn’t my sexuality that was the novelty (I had a girlfriend in by teens), it was the complete obliteration of heterosexual beauty standards. Of needing to be feminine, have certain body type, particular clothing.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/25 08:02 AM
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I have not read one single word from Adrienne Rich. I’m responding based on my experience of the world. Cherrypicking prominent feminists to demonstrate a strawman isn’t all that clever.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/25 08:00 AM
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Plain wrong. I am not treated with dignity and respect 99% of the time. If you think that your entire dating philosophy is invalid since it’s based on lies. I don’t understand this resistance of RP men to accept that sexual harassment and sexual violence are common.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/25 07:53 AM
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This is an over exaggeration. We don’t want to “erase hetero men”. We do want to be treated with respect dignity, which currently isn’t the case. What you might view as erasure is probably the will to deconstruct gender stereotypes and create more options for everyone. This would benefit so many Red pill men who are disillusioned trying to conform to unrealistic standards of masculinity.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/25 07:04 PM
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I think one of the main reasons LGBTQ, feminist & body positive advocates don’t outwardly ally with men is that we receive a lot of abuse from men. They mock us, fetishise us etc. I do agree manosphere men are perpetuating unrealistic expectations of masculinity and I always find it a bit odd when RP men complain about the masculinity standards, but then worship the very influencers who are setting those standards. They’ll complain about shallow women while only marketing themselves to shallow w…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/25 06:57 PM
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What about the fathers? Shouldn’t they take some responsibility?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/25 06:37 PM
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From who?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/25 06:24 PM
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If you’ve never had a girlfriend you don’t really understand your attraction. I had one girlfriend as a teenager then just men for a while. I had this idea in my head of how I wanted to want women to look superficially, slim but with curves, quite femme. One night after not having sex for years (illness) I hooked up with a “fat” chick and I’ve never looked back. It was so good. I have since slept with dancers, 10/10 women in their early 20’s and I can say the body really doesn’t make much differ…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/25 04:52 PM
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I found that with the gym. It transformed my confidence more than anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/25 04:46 PM
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Even with all the resources, financial, emotional and community…. If the mother wake in the night puking from a virus, who looks after the kids? I had an entire hip replacement and four days later I was back with my high needs disabled daughter on my own. Try that. Try getting disabled kid dressed when the top of your femur was sawn off less than a week ago. See if you still think single parenting is so easy.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/25 04:35 PM
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Any work is difficult to manage with kids. Looking after kids is a job in itself. Never mind if you get a special needs kid or something. I’m a single mum to a kid with very high support needs. It’s so tough. Just so hard, I am no longer even aware of my own needs. I do the odd bit of freelance work. The only reason I’m able to cope financially is that my daughter and I are both disabled so we get extra money in disability payments. In UK though. That kind of support isn’t available in US.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/25 04:31 PM
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I don’t think OP has any idea whatsoever about how much work it is raising kids and how difficult it is on their own. OP is going about his life, taking a shower, taking a sht, playing his video games with *zero** interruptions…. Meanwhile single months struggle to get to pee in peace and can’t finish a meal without interruption.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/25 04:27 PM
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This is highly dependent on the father. Some are great, others are harmful. Generally the ones who are great will want to be involved.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/25 04:22 PM
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As a single mother: no. It is incredibly difficult, often thankless, so so lonely. I’ve got a kid with learning disability, now 16 but needs help with every aspect of self care. I no longer know how I feel and what I need e.g. hunger, exhaustion. I cannot respond to my own needs as I constantly prioritise my daughter, so they get tuned out. Often after she’s in bed it will hit me. Everyone will be fulfilled by different things. Some women will find satisfaction in career, others in motherhood. T…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/25 09:31 AM
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Huh? What don’t you understand about this not being an “extreme circumstance”? It’s a regular insurance that often starts at age 13/14.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/25 12:23 PM
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This is everything I would have said. You’ve put it very succinctly.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/25 09:54 AM
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I know “not all men” but what I don’t understand is how people struggle to accept that there are some men (a lot actually) who are predatory, treat women like sex objects, and degrade women. A woman will be walking down the street and gets a vulgar sexual comment shouted at her. Why would we be flattered by that? Like ‘oh fantastic that gross old man wants to rape me, I’m honoured’…. No. We cannot just forget these experiences. Logically, given that all women have encountered this behaviour peop…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/25 09:48 AM
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None of these. The “sidewalk rule” is for children, not adults. I want a partner who listens to me, shows and interest in things I’m interested in, treats me with respect and values me as a person.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/25 09:37 AM
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Is there a rule that says TRP cannot support feminism? Genuinely curious. If you have to ask this question maybe you shouldn’t be identifying as RP. RP is by nature anti-feminism. If you’re not earning more as you accumulate more work experience, you’re doing something wrong and you need to re-assess your career path. But to bring up the already debunked pay gap myth that you seem to think that exists, well not sure what to tell you. You don’t need to tell me anything. You don’t know anything ab…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/25 12:43 PM
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The title of the post is “To have is to owe”, so yes, naturally that discussion will include what people do and don’t owe. There are definitely repercussions for dishonesty. Particularly in marriages where finances & kids are involved. I do not understand what you are trying to say. You seem to be distorting the meaning of the word “owe”.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/25 12:35 PM
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Your user flare clearly indicates you oppose equal rights for women. Feminism wasn’t a switch that got flipped. Would be lovely if it was that simple, but it’s not. Men still earn more and have more freedom than women. It’s just to a lesser degree.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/25 12:17 PM
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So you’re saying people “owe” honesty? I agree people should be honest. I wouldn’t use the word “owe” because it’s just a basic thing that is assumed in relationships. When people say you don’t “owe” people anything they are not referring to honesty.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/25 12:13 PM
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There are no “retorts”, “gotchas” or “clap backs” here. It’s a standard conversation. I’m encouraging you to think about things you seem to have not considered. You said finances are no longer a reason. That’s why I’m pointing out how difficult things are financially. Your comment indicated you that hasn’t been a problem for the past half century. If you genuinely believe women don’t stay because of money you obviously don’t understand how difficult it is to raise kids alone. Nobody is suggestin…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/25 12:05 PM
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Relationships are not business transactions. Even if they were, this phrase is usually used for people who are not dating or only just dating. Could you expand a bit more on what you think women owe men? In adult relationships there is give & take, but that is based on genuine affection and desire to make their partner happy. Doing things you don’t want to do because your partner feels you “owe” them something is not a sign of a healthy relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/25 11:23 AM
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IQ???? That’s not even used by the educational psychologists where I live because it’s a bad measure of cognition. Sexism (e.g. suggesting women are less intelligent than men) is the patriarchy at work.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/25 10:55 AM
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The ‘think about the children’ retort is often times a retroactively counter response as to why women choose to stay with abusive partners—not the primary reason as to why they choose to stay. It really is the primary reason for a lot of women. Sorry if that doesn’t feed in to your RP ideology. There was a time when finances was the prime reason as to why women chose to stay but that hasn’t been the case since... the last half century? Have you ever tried to support yourself while having full re…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/25 10:28 AM
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In the UK 9% of CEO’s are women. Considering the percentage of women in the population that is a massive discrepancy. How do you explain that?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/25 09:58 AM
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They weren’t rewarded either way. Men seem to get rewarded for changing a fucking nappy (diaper).
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/25 08:53 PM
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Imagine not knowing what a sweatshop is.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/25 08:15 PM
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I am not sure you understand what I mean by “connections”. Things like appearance, body count, age etc aren’t part of the connections I’m talking about.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/25 08:12 PM
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2 women lately? TWO?! Wowza. How many candidates have there been for president of USA throughout history?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/25 07:43 PM
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Your assumption women will perform poorly is misogyny
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/25 07:38 PM
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I think you are being ignorant as to how these relationships evolve. A lot of feminist causes are intended to prevent women from being trapped in relationships. How might she be trapped? Pregnant (that’s what abortion should be legal), marriage (that’s why no fault divorces are important), extremely low self esteem (that’s why women lift one another up and complement one another) inability to support themselves financially (that’s why women need equal pay), unable to support their kids (why chil…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/25 03:08 PM
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Ah there we have the answer. What you expect of her is personal to you. You are saying it’s that she shouldn’t be morbidly obese, shouldn’t be on her phone all the time and hold a descent conversation. I assume that means you don’t expect - monogamy, loyalty, reliability, emotional support, interesting sex life etc. In which case we use PPD’s favourite phrase - you’re an “outlier”.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/25 02:57 PM
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It’s not the mother’s money. It’s been used on the kid. She only stole it if she didn’t spend it on the kid. If the kid had no clothes, isn’t fed, left alone while she works etc then that’s her stealing it. The kid is a person separate to the mother. They have needs which take priority over yours. It’s fraud on the mother’s part, but punishing that while the kid is still dependant on her will also punish the kid. So you’ve got to wait. The other option is to get a paternity test to check before …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/25 02:52 PM
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So patriarchy is defined as a family where men are the leading “patriarch” and is the “leader” of the family basically. Patriarchy is not used exclusively to refer to family, it is used to refer to men being the leaders and women expecting to obey. If it’s not real in the west then name the first female President of United States?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/25 02:25 PM
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I’m clearly not implying that, what are you on about? I asked for clarification on if kids will be involved, because if they are what you will each be expected to do will be different. But in order for your expectations of her to be reasonable you need to get up in the night with the baby, do equal domestic labour, give up a lot more of your time, accept she might gain weight or have less interest in sex while she’s exhausted/ healing. These are things a lot of men expect their wives to take res…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/25 02:21 PM
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If she has to pay back the money and she’s not receiving child support - who pays for the kid? It still has needs. The kid comes before you. Always. Whether it’s yours or not. “Punishment” is not a priority over the child. You’d have to wait until the bio dad pays you back. Maybe pursue a fraud civil lawsuit against the mother, but you won’t get the money repaid until kid is grown up and can fend for themselves. I know it sounds harsh, but life is harsh and shitty things happen to us. Just becau…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/25 02:15 PM
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If someone is only having sex with you once in a blue moon and they imitate a starfish - they don’t want to have sex with you. Move on. The answer to your question is dependant on if you want a family or not. It sounds from your reply that the only thing you are looking for is sex. So your only expectation is they have sex with you. If you want a family you will have a hell of a lot more responsibility on your hands than the simple life you described having now.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/25 01:58 PM
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There are no “high value” men or women. There are “high quality connections” though.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/25 09:38 AM
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But if the kid is fed, clothed & housed the money has been spent on the child. It’s not her money and never was. If the child is malnourished, no clothing, was left alone while she went to work etc then you could say she stole the money from the kid. Regardless of the relationships between the adults the kid is a person with needs who didn’t ask for any of this.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/25 08:14 AM
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there exists no mechanism to have the mother pay him back for financial support previously owed. It’s very telling that you think the mother is the one who should pay him back, rather than the kid’s actual father.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/25 07:49 AM
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Are people supposed to wear brand new clothes on every date? That sounds expensive and unethical. I do think men underestimate how much workaholic & lazy boyfriend cause upset in their relationships. Terrible dates though I think some of those reasons are trivial. It also ignores the fact that the worst, most terrible dates, end in rape. Not really in the same ballpark as having an endless supply of new outfits.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/25 07:45 AM
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You sound like you are describing the standards you have for a hookup or short term thing. As my post said - these expectations are often put on women after the initial stage. What’s your opinion on body count? Ability to manage all domestic labour herself? How much she contributes financially? Should she be waking up in the night with baby but never you? Ability to maintain her figure after having a baby? Who should apply for and find a school place for kids? I think the problem is a lot of men…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/25 01:08 PM
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When I first started using them I still dated men. I live in a densely populated area and nature has aligned me with today’s current beauty standards. Therefore I got a lot of matches and a lot of sexual harassment with it. I had a few matches from women. Now I only swipe on women/non binary people and it’s definitely harder but I still get matches. It’s still difficult to get off the app and date because people just don’t remember to go back and check and continue the conversation. The person I…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/25 10:49 AM
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I don’t think women believe this. I’d be interested in what exactly you said as it’s probable you said something highly offensive (in a calm tone). I haven’t encountered single mums feeling entitled to someone’s affections, but I have encountered very lonely, very horny single mums who are upset by how difficult dating is. But they’re not necessarily pissed at the men for refusing to sleep with them, they’re pissed with the man that duped them in yo starting a relationship and turned out to be s…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/25 10:39 AM
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This is something that young RP people miss completely. That for many of the women on this sub there was a point in their life where misogyny was accepted, commonplace and malignant. The initiatives that RP men feel attacked by (stressing importance of consent, talking openly about abuse) were started for a reason which is that this was a massive problem and was widely accepted. They will say ‘we shouldn’t pay for past men’s mistakes’ but they think they’re talking about some distant past. It’s …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/25 10:30 AM
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I haven’t watched the whole thing but the first thing that struck me was that men also have unrealistic expectations of women - it’s just the expectations are different and not meeting them is handled differently. More often women will just reject the guy outright, whereas a guy might date & sleep with the woman then try to address the things he doesn’t like about her and try to make her change to fit his will. The second thing that struck me is that the sample she’s talking about is people who …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/25 10:16 AM
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I would say this is a good representation of dating neurotypical women. The covert communication and expectation of social sophistication is not true for autistic women in my experience. It does feel NT women have impossible social standards. EDIT as I’m reflecting. I do feel like with men there was a high instance of just going along with things without really wanting to and not being able to express my needs. I think that could be age though as I was late teens /early twenties at the time and …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/25 08:46 AM
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There are several reasons women are drawn to toxic men. The dudes lie about who they are, appear very confident and often mirror traits of toxic family members. I’ve found RP people really struggle to accept that it’s about anything other than looks.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/25 04:19 PM
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I’m 37 and now in the first relationship I’ve been in with someone of my race (white). To be fair I did have a good 8 years totally single, but both my relationships with men they were not my race. I live in a very diverse city, in UK. It’s very normal for there to be mixed race relationships. Whenever I’ve been in USA with a Black partner we got really weird looks.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/25 11:42 AM
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I feel like you are missing the big barrier to choosing better - people are not genuine. They pretend to be people they aren’t and there is literally no way of knowing for sure. It can take years, by which time the person is committed. I am curious about how people who say “choose better” actually choose? Like how do you be sure you are making a good choice?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/25 11:37 AM
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Okay but don’t get mad at her when she sleeps with another man. This is a ridiculous and immature approach to a relationship. You shouldn’t need to play mind games to keep a woman interested in you. How long do you plan to keep the charade up? Until you get married? Until you’ve had kids? You still going to be claiming you aren’t committed on your 20th anniversary?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/25 11:31 AM
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So when something is as a rule one way, and failure has extremely dire consequences, by your logic it still makes sense to attempt to grind yourself to dust by going for exceptional results Extremely dire consequences? What? Your alternative to trying is just being single forever. Definitely safer for your ego to not try, but don’t then sit around complaining you don’t have a woman. What are you even talking about? If you don’t understand me why are you replying? Focus on yourself, not on statis…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/25 11:12 AM
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When will RP guys figure out that as individuals they are not statistics? If you are friends with ND men who are in relationships then you know they exist. You don’t need a research study from the Institute Of Lonely Men to prove your friend exists and is being honest about their relationship status. Focus on yourself, not on statistics. Work out what’s getting in the way of dating for you personally and work on that. Deciding based on statistics that there’s no point in trying will guarantee a …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/25 11:14 AM
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If it were to the same extent initially, it’s harder for women to get out of it once the true self is revealed and abuse starts. Avoiding confirmation bias is difficult. Can you explain a bit more about how that would manifest?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/25 01:09 PM
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I did miss it. What point is consent impossible? It’s not possible if what people think they are consenting to is misrepresented/fake. It’s also tricky if media, government and religion presents false information. In the US particularly the education system discourages critical thinking and media literacy is nonexistent. If people consent based on X, but X is actually Y in an X costume, then that’s not consent. They didn’t consent to Y.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/25 12:50 PM
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If we take the example of ‘choosing a certain partner’… why isn’t that partner accountable for their behaviour? You mean if a woman is treated badly it is her fault rather than the person who’s treating her badly? It’s blatantly not. You can’t know what someone’s future behaviour will be. People can be very skilled at presenting a false self. Often the abuse doesn’t start until she is committed in some way. So he tricked her in to believing he is a “nice guy”, then when she’s pregnant he beats h…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/25 12:43 PM
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The only question you asked was ‘How do you compare a dead body of a man or woman to be able to claim one gender is more oppressed in a dictatorship?’. I don’t think people are comparing dead bodies. They are comparing freedom.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/25 12:35 PM
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I’m struggling to understand what the debate is about? There will always be people who avoid responsibility. I find a lot of men on this sub are experts at avoiding accountability.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/25 12:28 PM
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Where are all these “communist” women? Are you referring to actual communists or people who are just liberal but American right wing media distorts this and calls it “communism”?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/25 11:32 AM
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Why are so many posts on here so long? I see a post and want to engage but the post is really long. Longer than other Reddit posts I see.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/25 11:22 AM
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It would definitely take the pressure off women, I think there’s a lot of exhausted mothers who would gladly outsource their husband’s sexual desires. Maybe it would make men less rapey? I don’t have an issue with legal sex work, but I think it should be heavily regulated to avoid exploitation. When you mention a “broad change in behaviour” what do you mean?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/25 11:18 AM
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Why though? Why would it matter to me?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/25 11:00 AM
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Makes me feel better about what?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/25 10:50 AM
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Stop projecting. It doesn’t matter one bit to me so why would it be convenient to me to believe that? Saying all women are shallow is objectively misogynistic.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/25 10:27 AM
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It’s astonishing because it sounds ridiculous and childish to make such a sweeping statement. It’s just a way for men to justify their lack of romantic interests.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/25 10:12 AM
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This is not true. Women only like men for what they provide probably at the same rate that men only like women for their appearance. There will always be shallow people about. Lumping all women in one pile and making an absolutist claim like that might make you feel better, but it’s false. It is astonishing to me people can write things like this with a straight face and not consider that women have been used for their bodies for centuries.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/25 10:02 AM
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Completely depends on where he lives.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/25 03:04 PM
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I think this is a terrible idea. You can’t give men unlimited ability to avoid consequences to their actions & responsibility. You’d remove a lot of the incentive for men to use protection… even with the current state of things they’re reluctant. You’d also have children growing up in poverty, all because their dad said ‘it feels better without a condom’ or just straight up stealthed the woman. Men seem to always talk about “parental rights”, which is very paternalistic and suggests a sense of o…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/25 09:51 AM
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Why is “bad” or “abusive” something we just accept but trusting people and giving men a chance is apparently something that’s their fault? On this thread. No doubt in other topics you would lament women choosing better. People don’t know they are making a bad choice. They have no way of knowing. What about that don’t you understand? I’m interested in what kind of due diligence you do. I know we are talking about this assuming men are the ones abusing, but that’s not in every case. There are plen…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/25 12:36 PM
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You don’t understand the concept that they don’t know what they are choosing. Often there are threads about false rape claims and women being lied to about paternity. Might go over to one of those and try out the “he should have chosen better” logic.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/25 12:26 PM
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If the bad choice isn’t the one running into issues due to their poor decisions and complaining, yes. How are issues caused by complaining? By that logic lonely men are only lonely if they complain about it. Sexless marriages are only a problem if the husband complains. If his wife is very sexual when they meet and then that changes 5 years down the line, is it his poor choice of wife that is to blame for his unmet sexual needs? Avoid those guys? Date timid nice guys or something. TRP will conti…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/25 12:24 PM
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Because it doesn’t work that way. 8 men can’t simply reject 2 creeps, and go on thinking the issue is solved, because it’s not. If those 2 creeps get to control the mood of the whole group, you’ve just made those 2 creeps far too important. And now made 8 amazing guys disposable. Women are supposed to stick around for those 8 amazing guys and support them, even while those 2 creeps continue unimpeded. Why would they want to stick around? What’s so special about the other 8 guys? If the other 8 g…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/25 12:17 PM
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You fault lies in assuming they would care to, they know what they do is wrong, and they don’t care, infact they wouldn’t enjoy it if it wasn’t wrong. This is laughable. You really think I believe they care to? Where on earth would you get that impression? Whether they care to or not is irrelevant. They shouldn’t do it. Idk, not allow themselves to be manipulated? How can you disallow something you don’t know is happening? Past high school, performing estreme due diligence is simply par for the …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/25 12:09 PM
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Are you joking? You don’t think it takes time to learn anything else? Everything takes time to learn. Have you not heard the phrase “practice makes perfect”? It’s really difficult to fathom that you can’t see how time is required for learning. It’s not infantilisation. Infantilisation would be saying an 18 year old too young to have any romantic relationships. Nobody is saying that. They are saying 18 is inexperienced and therefore you are more likely to make mistakes and misjudgements.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/25 12:02 PM
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Why should I take steps to protect myself when I go around waving money around why dont the criminals be better? This isn’t about choices you are making, it’s about who you are deciding to blame for the crime. Theft of physical money is a terrible example. It’s not equivalent. People (particularly young women) don’t know what the risks are, they don’t have something physical they can guard. They take a hell of a lot of precautions with things like rape alarms, staying in groups when out etc. Tha…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/25 11:56 AM
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We know victims exist… we cannot control them either, their abusers (who as far as you’re concerned don’t need to change) control them.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/25 11:47 AM
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Complete overhaul of policing and the way police are dealt with so that women are actually protected and believed by police. The largest police force in Britain is riddled with misogynists and rapists. One of them pretended to arrest a woman who was walking alone and ended up murdering her. This was after he had been flashing people in McDonald’s and was reported but faced no consequences. The WhatsApp groups where the police joke about raping women and share images of dead victims bodies need t…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/25 07:27 PM
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I’ll be honest. I have literally read books about Game, used it (which felt incredibly false) and on both occasions the women became overly clingy and seemed to be “head over heels”. I had to block one of them. Don’t try to tell me it’s not misleading. There’s no way you can keep that up through the whole relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/25 07:15 PM
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Did they all get prison time? How do you know they were false accusations?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/25 07:12 PM
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The dating tactics/manipulation.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/25 07:12 PM
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I’m not talking about men in my life, I’m talking about men I’ve never met before in groups for things like debating philosophy. If there are 10 men on the zoom call, 8 are amazing and 2 are creeps… I still don’t want to join the zoom call. The “amazing” ones don’t counteract the creeps. My brothers-in-law are great. But even the best one who identifies as a feminist doesn’t quite understand the sacrifices my sister makes.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/25 07:11 PM
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What do you mean by insufferable. Can you give examples?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/25 07:07 PM
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If the only person you can control is yourself why don’t abusive men control themselves better? It’s actually an ironic statement since abuse is about controlling the other person. If someone is being manipulated then how are they supposed to choose better? They’ve been presented with a false version of the person. They think they are choosing a guy who has similar interests, remembers their favourite author and surprised them with a book from them etc. These traits seem good and if they were ge…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/25 05:57 PM
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I disagree about PUA culture. It tells you to do things that you wouldn’t otherwise do therefore it’s a misrepresentation of your personality. It’s also not sustainable. After time it does become more and more difficult to support women who repeat the patterns. Part of abuse is isolating the victim though, so often they don’t have a social support system to tell them.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/25 05:48 PM
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Yes we do warn them. We are labelled as “bitter/jealous older women”. Or online you’ll see the complaints about people being told to break up over anything. The reality is that thing is actually a red flag.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/25 05:44 PM
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People don’t because they can’t fathom someone would be that cruel and callous. The people warning are considered “bitter older women”. To a 22 year old it’s often easier to reconcile the concept of a jealous woman than it is to accept that a man could be so cold hearted. The dopamine and hormones massively cloud judgement.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/25 05:40 PM
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This is an overgeneralisation. There are many different styles of friendship and they vary a lot more than that. Autistic people have a completely different style of friendship. In theory I do agree we need exposure to one another to challenge our bias. In practice it’s difficult to do. I tried this. I actively joined Meetup groups with men in them as a means of exposing myself to men and getting over the fear. To begin with these were mostly zoom because it was pandemic. In every group at least…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/25 05:26 PM
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I know 8 year olds who could see through this logic but for whatever reason I’ve never met a grown woman who sees the problem with it. I wonder why. Couldn’t be because they know first hand how common rape is? I genuinely don’t know if women are dumb or manipulative for seemingly not spotting this obvious fallacy but I guess that’s a question I may never know the answer to. The answer to the question is they have a different perspective due to different experiences. That’s not “dumb” or manipula…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/25 05:15 PM
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Not because he’s poor - because he’s selfish and lazy.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/25 04:54 PM
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It’s not even just the low income, it’s what it says about his personality and values. Not wanting to support him is shallow. He’s being ridiculous.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/25 04:53 PM
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So the onus isn’t on the person who is a bad choice to be better, it’s on their victim to choose better? How do you reconcile this concept alongside Red Pill theory and PUA culture that actively encourages men to mislead women? It seems that often the people who “choose badly” are young and have not yet learned to recognise Red Flags. They are often very kind empathetic people and innocently assume the person they’re dating is the same, or if not that they can change them. It takes time to learn…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/25 04:47 PM
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It doesn’t mean he was consciously lying to you, he was lying to himself. Accepting homosexuality is incredibly difficult for people. The brain does amazing things to hide truths about ourselves. What would the difference be if he disclosed he was bi from the start of the relationship? Would you have got in to a relationship with him. My husband definitely knew I was in to women. He knew that about me before we got together. But I didn’t personally consider the possibility that my future wouldn’…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/25 11:26 PM
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I am sorry but this really annoyed me. I’m not Red Pill, but as a single 38 year old woman I am so so soooo lonely because I do not have the freedom to make connections and build relationships. I have big responsibilities, I am very needed, but I have no company. I have no partner guiding me through that and the responsibility prevents me socialising. I’m sure she’s lonely. But a 38 year old with no kids is a bad example of a lonely 38 year olds. What about single mums? Those of us who don’t thi…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/25 10:45 PM
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It took me years of therapy to be able to accept a compliment. I only ever got complemented on my looks and it just didn’t mean anything to me. If someone said I was pretty I didn’t feel proud because that’s pure luck and it’s not something I worked for, it’s just how my face turned out. And because my face turned out that way I have to smile while men objectify me constantly? I was never given proper compliments like on skills, achievements or personality traits. One exception - my ex husband f…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/25 10:36 PM
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Have you slept with women?? If you have you shouldn’t need to ask that question.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/25 09:14 PM
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It makes me very angry. I know there are reasons and background but no. I still don’t understand it. I can’t fathom how they justify it in their mind. I have never introduced someone I was dating to my kid. I wouldn’t until I was very sure of them. I have sacrificed a lot by not having a serious relationship in many years. It does go both ways though. My step mum was awful to my sisters and I. Dad just stood by and watched.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/25 07:32 PM
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HR departments definitely do seem to be more concerned by sexism than the US electorate. You’re right in that sense I suppose. You are focusing on a reaction to behaviour. The reason for vigilance around sexual harassment perpetrated by men, is because it was such a big problem! Women sexually harassing men isn’t talked about as much because it hasn’t been a big problem. You only have to look at cases like Weinstein to see there is good reason for vigilance.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/25 05:37 PM
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What are you classing as misandry? Whether you like it or not every woman has been victimised by a man, we don’t know which men are the dangerous ones. It’s basic survival that we would be afraid. Caution definitely protects from a threat because it causes you to seek out spaces where you can avoid the threat. Therefore you encounter it less often. Racism is not comparable. There are millions of people white who have never been victimised by a black person. Meanwhile there are barely any women w…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/25 04:48 PM
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Go say some misogynistic stuff promoting violence against women and…. You’ll get elected as President of USA. The self proclaimed “most Googled man alive”, Andrew Tate, y’know the one who didn’t cry as a baby, he only grunted because he’s so masculine… well that guy also regularly espouses violent misogynistic rhetoric, is being investigated for serious crimes against women, yet he is still adored by men & boys. What that tells us is that misogyny and “misandry” do not come with consequences. Fo…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/25 04:41 PM
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By “they” do you mean the American government? There’s literally no way you are going to prevent women eating each other out. Legal or not lesbians will fuck. We’ve always found a way.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/25 04:32 PM
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It’s like losing a leg for you. It’s like gaining a nut for us.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/25 04:30 PM
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How about in person rather than online? Things online become an echo chamber. Meaning is lost when there’s no actual voice and just typed words. Ultimately the only way you can reconcile things is by accepting that there’s huge variations and you can’t generalise. Feminism is not about deconstructing the “concept of men and women” (a gender binary). It’s about preventing men from controlling women. People who do not fit the “concept of men and women” are everywhere, so you can’t avoid them in th…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/25 04:29 PM
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Avoiding triggers is not a valid therapeutic strategy for PTSD. You need to find safe ways to reacquaint with those things and build confidence in dealing with the type of situation that may startle.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/25 04:28 PM
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You’ve already told me you think that.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/25 04:26 PM
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I’m well aware. It’s one of the better ways to spend my time today. I wish it wasn’t. But I need to escape my surroundings and if I play games on my phone I’ll buy loads of in app purchases.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/25 04:25 PM
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Have I personally scared all the men off?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/25 03:54 PM
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That kind of personal comment isn’t necessary. Also, without dishing out more personal details about myself, you don’t know how far off the mark you are with that one.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/25 03:53 PM
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So he touched a stranger without consent and she politely told him she wasn’t interested. She didn’t even ask for him to be kicked out… The bar staff observed the situation and stepped in. How is it that the lesbian got him kicked out? Was she supposed to pretend she wasn’t uncomfortable? Calling it a war on straight men just doesn’t feel like adult conversation. It’s overly simplified and hyperbolic. There is no war on straight men. There is considerable defensiveness towards straight men due t…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/25 03:49 PM
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lol. I think if your perception of that situation was going to switch your political beliefs so dramatically, you were going to end up getting sucked in to right wing politics regardless. What did he say to her after she said she was a lesbian? How did she manage to get him kicked out? Surely there was a sign that she was unhappy… she didn’t nod and smile then walk over to a security staff and tell him this man is harassing me. She will have repeatedly made it clear she didn’t want to continue t…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/25 01:37 PM
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I don’t you are right. There was a period in time where I thought I did. You would have used me as an example to prove your point. I got most comfortable when I was being dominated and controlled. This was when I was 19-25. By that time I was married to a man playing the perfect wife. That wasn’t sustainable or congruent with my actual desires, it was only congruent with what society told me my desires should be. I became incredibly unhappy and unfulfilled & depressed. I wasn’t mentally stimulat…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/25 01:10 PM
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Generally women want (unconsciously) men who behave like their fathers.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/25 01:02 PM
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The exceptions prove the rule. That’s a nice sound bite. It’s the second time I’ve read it on PPD in the past 24 hours. These are not exceptions. Most people don’t give a shit about Valentine’s Day. The people who care about it the most is single people and big corporations trying to make money. Then OP seems to quote cursory surveys which were most likely in some way designed to increase revenue from sales on Valentine’s Day. Most women, for example mothers, don’t want $100 of the household inc…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/25 12:57 PM
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I cannot relate to a scenario where anyone is expecting more than $100 gift for Valentine’s Day. Who are these people? Most people don’t give a shit about Valentine’s Day. Women deep down want a charming handsome masculine sexist man to control and lead them. No. Some women want that. What about the women that don’t? Are we just supposed to suck it up and play along?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/25 03:25 AM
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Why are men a danger to women? Due to a society that allows them to be. In fact, it praises them for it. Why would someone say “Men are women’s biggest predators”? Because society rewards them for doing so. What enables men to be predatory to women? Society.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/25 12:32 AM
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He mentioned hormone therapy but in the context of it still not equalizing trans women to cis women, that trans women still have an inherent advantage despite the hormones. I’m so confused. Are we assuming feminists and trans people genuinely think all trans women should compete in the same sporting categories?? You realise that’s not true right? I think your experience of trans women almost exclusively consists of people who in their every day life present as men and are only trans online.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/25 12:22 AM
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Didn’t the OP mention hormone therapy? That alters biology. Regardless it all sounds like a bunch of people who know nothing about trans people using trans people to prove whatever point they want to make. Justify some kind of oversimplification. Trans women vary wildly in their background and experience. Cis women vary wildly in their capacity for harm. One thing women all share, whether trans or not, is we have all grown up feeling unsafe around macho males because of our gender. That exists e…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/25 11:37 PM
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This is interesting because I came to this post right after seeing a post on another sub about how to tell if people have been through some shit, and one of the things that came up was eyes. People say “The eyes are the window to the soul”. There is definitely something currently undefinable that we can see through people’s eyes. Sadness, desperation, contempt, joy etc. When it comes specifically to the “creep” factor… it makes me think of how neurotypical people rate autistic people as less lik…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/25 09:21 PM
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Your post is literally titled “The Trans Debate”. It is not specific to sport. That would be “The Trans Sports Debate”. No it’s not hyperbolic and yes it is an emotional topic. You are missing the point entirely which that real trans people are personally, emotionally affected by people engaging on what feels like, ironically, a sport. Engaging in debates about people who don’t affect them whatsoever.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/25 08:58 PM
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These types of “contradictions” only exist when you oversimplify arguments and cherry pick examples. The discussion cannot be simplified to that degree, if you try to things will sound clunky and contradictory. Trans people are not a debate. They are humans and most of the people debating their existence online don’t actually know any trans people. Nor are their lives affected by the existence of trans people in any way other than to devalue something heavily relied on by people for self esteem …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/25 08:11 PM
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Literally your whole comment is an argument that that the male-female dichotomy is socially constructed by colonialism lol Ah, so what you mean is feminism acknowledges that your narrow belief of what constitutes “man” and “woman” is flawed. Exceptions do not negate the rule, they prove it. Exceptions? Is everything that’s not within a very narrow definition an exception? The point is that these are not exceptions. Nothing is ever simple, especially once you dive down into the complex interactio…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/25 07:55 PM
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I didn’t say feminists are the reason women got the right to vote so why did you even bring this concept in to the conversation? I understand it’s a point that Red Pill will dwell on and spread false/misleading information on… therefore you may have a lot to say on it…. But that was not a point I was making so it doesn’t serve purpose as a response to my comment (does it?). I quoted you and asked you to elaborate. You have not elaborated. I’m not convinced you understand the points I was am maki…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/25 07:40 PM
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Another issue? You haven’t even elaborated on any of your other points. Do not conflate USA & England (UK) they are vastly different culturally and historically. Conflating them is just continued US defaultism. You are not going to be successful in convincing anyone that women having the right to vote is not a feminist issue. It absolutely is. How do you reconcile that feminist issues genuinely do make it more difficult for men to control women? The only logic I can see is that you think women s…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/25 06:38 PM
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In the USA? No, we were taught about the history of voting rights in the country I actually live in…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/25 06:12 PM
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words and action are not the same... prime example for this are terfs... Can you elaborate? ok independant of op the issue is how equality and equity get measured + compared... intermixing data to create an oppression narrative does not help... What would be the purpose of a false “oppression narrative”? Take something like the right to vote. How is preventing women from voting not oppressive? How is a woman “belonging” to a man not oppressive? The only way you can explain away the oppression of…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/25 05:53 PM
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Feminism isn’t trying to “destroy men and women”. The main goal of most feminist points is to reduce the ability of men to control women. Being able to work, vote, choose when to get pregnant and continue with pregnancy etc. Overly stated binary gender roles are not universal among humans (even in the animal kingdom), they are more specific to colonialism. Throughout history and in multiple religious texts there is a broader array of gender roles. Therefore there’s no simplistic ultimate “biolog…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/25 04:57 PM
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You haven’t answered the question about an alternative.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/25 11:53 AM
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You’ve made a number of “We acknowledge” statements, but I don’t think I acknowledge those things in the way you’ve phrased them. Blood is a need because it carried oxygen to all our tissues and without it we will die. HIV will also kill you. Furthermore the USA not having Universal Healthcare is inexcusable. Can you explain what you think should happen to ensure this “need” (want) is met? You are saying you don’t support sexual slavery, so what’s the alternative?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/25 11:10 AM
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Incorrect.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/25 06:59 PM
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Dude the OP is a list of links to Reddit threads. Of course I don’t think Reddit is representative but context..
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/25 08:43 AM
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I’m just wondering if you could find some compatible titles where men are stating that they don’t want to hate women, and state a guilty conscience due to their hatred? It strikes me that several of these are women looking for help because they know it’s a problem. Usually they have experience of sexual assault or violence perpetrated by men. Maybe I’m looking on the wrong subs but I mostly see men who are objectively misogynistic denying that they hate women….
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/25 02:04 PM
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Mmm. If by “toxic women” you mean Jonah Hill’s ex then we are not talking about the same people. Those were screenshots of him trying to control her and calling it “boundaries”. What’s next? “I have a boundary that you may never leave the house, and a boundary that other men cannot look in your direction”…?? If you learned more about toxic behaviour and healthy relationships I think you’d see clearly where Jonah Hill’s “boundaries” were going.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/25 12:00 AM
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As an autistic person my question is why would you want to date them?? Dating a neurotypical person would be exhausting. I only date autistic people. I do not have the patience for neurotypical dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/25 11:48 PM
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The kind of women Red Pill men describe are very shallow and most women are not like that, therefore they don’t hang around them. I don’t think people are denying they exist, it’s just that it’s not many women who are like that and most women don’t want to interact with them.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/25 11:24 PM
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That’s an interesting perspective. You have mostly mentioned things people can see. What about personality and behaviour? I think a lot of what women struggle with is finding a man with the right character and personality. It’s not so much the height or dick size.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/25 10:24 PM
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I believe women are intelligent enough to make their own decisions I’m not sure it’s about intelligence, it’s about experience and knowledge. If you have grown up in an abusive home and nobody teaches you any different you aren’t going to know you’re in an abusive situation. The path in to an abusive situation starts at birth, not when you legally become an adult.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/25 10:16 PM
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What does gender role have to do with removing yourself from an abuser? I’m not following that argument. Because social roles are heavily influenced by gender. Often controlling or aggressive behaviour is excused in men and there is a social expectation for a woman to submit to a man. Therefore the behaviour is often excused by people around her. Most people regardless of gender that are abused successfully remove themselves from the situation or seek help to be removed. Those that stay, regardl…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/25 10:10 PM
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Gender absolutely does matter. It makes a huge difference. You cannot just ignore gender roles in society, as if they don’t frame the way we view people’s behaviour. I really think the first thing is people need to realise they don’t need their abuser. Having the confidence to be entirely self reliant can take years of therapy and reflection.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/25 09:20 PM
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We can’t properly adapt. It makes us suicidal. I’m not convinced they’re the majority, just socially the most powerful. I have long outgrown my nihilism so I’m pretty confident that over time things can be made much easier for autistic people. I’ve already seen huge changes. For example events (including club nights) having a quiet room with stim objects, lots of social events specifically for autistics, many organisations (in UK, doubtful it’s like this in US) insist on having autistic people i…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/25 09:04 PM
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I am not talking about coddling anyone. I’m talking about holding the right people accountable. You may have taken the gender out of it, but you were responding to my comment which didn’t, in a thread that explicitly mentions “women” in the title. Women and men have different barriers to leaving. People who experience abuse blame themselves mercilessly, as does their abuser, so I don’t think we really need to pile it on any more.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/25 08:38 PM
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You didn’t answer the question.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/25 08:24 PM
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I’m not quite clear on what you are trying to say in relation to my comment. It seems to be just a general comment on how this is another thing that is women’s fault, backed up by nonfact statistics. If you genuinely want to make that argument where is the data?? How has collecting that data dealt with changing attitudes towards what is considered abuse, changes in society that make it easier to talk about abuse, how difficult it is to record such things? More importantly, had you considered tha…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/25 08:06 PM
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No that’s would be a disaster. Without autistic people the world would be a much worse place. I think it’s a sign that neurotypical people need to take a step back and allow autistic people space to socialise. Currently they run everything, they play background music everywhere, use obnoxiously bright lights that mean we just can’t tolerate being in those spaces… they bully autistic people mercilessly from school continuing in to the work place, in some countries USA they put them in hours of tr…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/25 07:44 PM
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Have you ever tried to learn about why? Like the psychology of it? I don’t mean dismiss an explanation of the psychology, I mean really with an open mind learn? Feminism seeks to make changes that will make it easier for women to leave abusive partners. A lot of what feminists object to, they object to because it makes it easier for men to abuse women within the framework of the patriarchy. A lot of Red Pill ideas keep (and trap) women in those relationships. That is why feminists have the opini…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/25 07:36 PM
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I’m not a man, I’m a feminist (“blue pilled”) woman and I’m afraid to say this post is very much missing the mark. It was actually quite upsetting to read. I may be blue pilled but I am also autistic. You are describing situations that autistic people find particularly difficult - regardless of pills and gender. I’m not one to defend a misogynist, check my post history, but I promise you for most of these guys it’s really not as easy as it sounds. In fact, forcing yourself to be in those situati…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/25 07:17 PM
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And were women equally represented among the workforce?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/25 09:01 AM
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You mean divorces skyrocketed when women were no longer financially trapped in marriages? Shocker.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/25 08:48 AM
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Mistakes? Something has gone awry in the order of events which have led to women going out to work because now we are expected to do it all. Would have been helpful if the transition of women in to the workplace went at an equal pace to the transition of men in to the home.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/25 08:47 AM
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By “a Canadian professor” do you mean Jordan Peterson? Have been through the family court system - can confirm lawyers do not encourage “dirty tricks”. That’s RP conspiracy land. They work to strict ethical guidelines.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/25 08:44 AM
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You…. You know your daughters won’t always be children right?? And yes they did go about bragging about raping women. They made (and make) entire hit songs about it. Women were told it was their fault and shamed if they reported rape. If you think men can’t open up now, trying going back in time 50 years and you might see what I mean.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/25 08:39 AM
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I read the whole thing. ‘Singles mixers’ and all’…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/25 08:35 AM
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You know the sort of thing that might drive a woman to divorce a man? Him not being able to manage his own feelings in a mature way and making them her responsibility. Threatening suicide if a partner doesn’t do xyz is a form of abuse. You can’t force someone to stay in a marriage they are unhappy in.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/25 08:30 AM
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“Divorce related male suicides”….. are you kidding me??? The fact women are no longer trapped in marriage is only a problem for men who treat their wives badly.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/25 10:12 PM
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Well no they’re not, as evidenced by the fact men don’t open up. We’re told it’s okay to open up, only for reality to slap us in the face. This is not the case at all. Things have come a long way for men in that regard. Red Pill are the ones trying to reinstate the tough masculine personal. You must not be from the U.S. because parental leave is lacking for mothers and almost nonexistent for fathers. I am well aware of how backwards the US labour laws are. Thank goodness no, I am not in US. Our …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/25 09:30 PM
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No it’s a basic animal instinct. Who said anything about it being specific to women? You are the one that made it specific to (presumably human) women.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/25 09:21 PM
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So when you put on makeup/clothes/shoes/etc. to look good to people and manipulate how they view you, how attracted they are to you, how likely it is they will want to sleep with you, you want to tell me that you have no idea it has this effect and you do manipulate how they see you unconsciously? You think I am trying to tell you what? If you ask someone whether they are wearing makeup and they say “yes” then they are not manipulating you. If you ask them if they’re wearing makeup and the lie a…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/25 08:53 PM
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Delusional people exist all over the place. If you are specifically referring to the difference in opinions that Millennial women tend to have compared to boys who grew up with Fresh & Fit teaching them how to be a man… that’s not “delusion”. It’s a different (more mature) perspectives.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/25 08:38 PM
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Men are more able to be vulnerable with their emotions and mental health. They have opportunities such as shared parental leave where they can take weeks off work with their baby. Their financial position is more secure because their partner has a good income… it’s less acceptable for people to rape their daughters.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/25 08:34 PM
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Ah, I see what you mean now. It really depends on the woman and location I think but personally I don’t swipe on men so I wouldn’t know. What would be good advice to women? 1) learn about healthy relationships and red flags (negging, excessively bragging, love bombing, possessiveness etc). 2) trust your gut instincts 3) never let a man come between you and your friends/. family
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/25 08:25 PM
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Yes, this “crap” again. Dating apps are shit. They are one way of dating. If they don’t work for you rather than obsessing over it try something different.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/25 07:20 PM
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Intentionally manipulating people in order to get them to sleep with you is not part of the human existence, nor is it morally neutral.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/25 07:15 PM
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What? Why specify married millennial men? Married millennial men don’t necessarily have delusions, they are just less swayed by social media algorithms so they don’t take the content RP men swear by so literally.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/25 07:13 PM
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Who were you referring to when you said “young British women”?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/25 07:09 PM
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But you still used it. That you don’t consciously decide to use that to this and that effect makes no difference. If this was true… 100% how conscious it is makes all the difference between whether you are a shitty person or not. You manipulate by everything you do. Smiling for example. The perfume you wear. The restaurant you choose. The music you put on when you get home. If you have to generalise the term so much then you’re in trouble with justifying this. Manipulation in this context is “to…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/25 07:01 PM
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Who are these men giving advice to, and what about? You can’t have “infinite options compared to” something. Infinite cannot be compared to a finite number. Either they have more options compared to men, or they have infinite options. You have to choose.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/25 06:34 PM
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Is there anything RP men don’t blame women for? Plenty of men have adapted just fine to and benefited from feminism. A certain type of person will be drawn to TRP rather than trying to understand the complex realities of life.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/25 06:01 PM
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I think you’d be surprised.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/25 05:10 PM
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Yea. I should just ignore millions of likes in reels and thousands of likes by women commenting? Given that the global population is 8.2 Billion, and only women who have strong opinions on this stuff will be getting those videos in their algorithms - yes. Dating apps are a real world scenario and much more brutal where 80% of women reject men under 6ft. Just delusions I’m a woman these days. Dating apps are a virtual method of dating. Lots of people don’t use them. People are always more ruthles…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/25 05:08 PM
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Women don’t have infinite options compared to men. That doesn’t even make sense. They might have more options, but it doesn’t give men the right to blame all their dating woes on women and absolve men of responsibility for shitty behaviour. Stop consuming RP content online. Learn about media literacy. Learn about confirmation bias. Stop blaming women for everything and do a little introspection.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/25 05:03 PM
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Neutral wording doesn’t mean much on a thread which is about gendered aspects of dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/25 04:59 PM
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It’s something that’s not true.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/25 04:54 PM
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TikTok sounds are not comprehensive representations of what people find attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/25 04:53 PM
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Because they read whole ass books on it. Pick up artistry is manipulation.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/25 04:50 PM
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Everyone is a manipulator. We manipulate others every day. Especially in mating. But i agree, very good manipulators tend to also be very desired by women. Really? I haven’t needed to use manipulation to get women to sleep with me. I understand neurotypical people are more careful in what they say and how they act, but that’s often to avoid others feeling negative feelings. In contrast if you’re using manipulation to get people in to bed on false pretences, or keep someone interested in you, tha…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/25 04:49 PM
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Would you say Hip Hop and make rap music is free from misogyny then? Why are you assuming the Man in Finance song is serious? And why do you believe it’s what ‘y’all desire’? I personally don’t have interest in men, however I did grow up with a wealthy father and the big issue (my straight friends with rich husbands also experience this) is that they are money rich but time poor. There’s no work life balance. The money is there but the man is not because he’s in some office or at a work function…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/25 01:05 PM
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Can you give some examples of those posts?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/25 12:52 PM
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There are 0 reels of women talking about wanting things from men. You realise we don’t all get the same content right?? Those reels are aimed at you specifically based on your interests and search history. They give you those videos because they know you’ll interact with them. It’s not a true representation of the real world.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/25 12:24 PM
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Why do you think women don’t do this? Women will blame themselves far more than they need to “I know I was stupid”, “I should have listened to my friends”…, people say this all the time. I’m not sure where you’ve got this idea that women blame it entirely on men.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/25 12:19 PM
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Not really. The thread that is being responded to says “the men women fall for are much more likely to be manipulators”. That clearly sets out the context.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/25 12:07 PM
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Does the person actively deceiving them have any responsibility?? Is the lying okay?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/25 12:05 PM
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No it can definitely be easily faked. It’s interesting the way you are trying to raise it in to being the woman’s fault.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/25 11:41 AM
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If someone is deliberately looking for partners because of problems with “Mommy Issues” or “Daddy Issues”, Did you consciously or subconsciously choose to ignore me saying it is “subconscious” and “The person wouldn’t be consciously aware”.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/25 11:39 AM
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But unfortunately or fortunately, most people are not Machiavellians or genius manipulators, so the phrase “Choose better” still makes sense. Maybe “most” people aren’t, but then again most men are not getting all the women. The men women fall for are much more likely to be manipulators. The whole point is not to raise only material standards, but to pay increased attention to personal qualities. Not to look for gremlins or supermodels, but simply people who are attractive to you personally, who…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/25 10:41 AM
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Oh no you’re right, Rap Music isn’t comedy.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/25 10:18 AM
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Um… have you heard male rap artists? If you want novelty songs go listen to Baby Got Back by Sir Mix-A-Lot. Art isn’t a source.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/25 09:45 AM
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Never heard of it. How is it relevant? Surely you aren’t using a song as a source?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/25 09:27 AM
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You’ve posted a link to an article that’s behind a paywall.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/25 09:16 AM
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The fact you prefaced this with “This post may come across sentimental” is actually quite ironic. One of the reasons men feel so lonely is that they don’t open up to each other and support one another the way women tend to. It sounds like you have been doing that recently which is fantastic, but it needs to become more widespread. It is definitely not something that masculinity values or encourages.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/25 09:11 AM
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You have left out the detail that she thought the kid was going to reincarnate. That’s an obvious mental illness which is why people are reacting that way. Had the video been titled “Woman stalks ex husband then commits murder suicide with their child to punish her for leaving him” then she would be treated the same as men who do that.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/25 09:00 AM
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For women it’s usually superficial things like height, money, looks…. Source? If a man has used RP techniques to manipulate a woman in to believe he is someone that he’s not, who is at fault with his true colours bleed out? He told you he wants a “serious relationship” during chat but it seems like he doesn’t want to commit and LIES! big red flag! Leave him ASAP! See ladies, it’s that simple. Situationship should not have ever existed and no one is to blame for but YOU. No, he’s to blame for lyi…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/25 08:55 AM
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all women wanting… Hmmm. also wanting him to be monogamous… I’m why should he be? Marriage vows?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/25 08:46 AM
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Abusive behaviour is consistently denied by men on this sub. If you bring it up they will claim it’s not relevant and it’s not trauma dumping. It would be interesting to have a threat where RP men thinks constitutes as abusive behaviour from a man.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/25 08:39 AM
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It’s not a weird take at all. It’s a glaringly obvious double standard. It’s is constant on here. Men will endorse PUA but then blame her for “choosing badly” [believing the fake PUA version of a guy]. Then if he treats her badly “well she could just leave”, but when the warning signs of a toxic dynamic come up and someone posts on Reddit they complain women are told to leave over nothing… women are then also blamed for being single mothers. The only acceptable option to TRP is for women to not …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/25 08:36 AM
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It will make it harder. It will not derail it completely. Your only loss there is financial. You still have time which is arguable more valuable than money.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/25 06:53 PM
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Or she’s giving him the benefit of the doubt and working on her relationship. Especially if there are kids involved. Often she will simply assume she’s inferior and work her ass off to meet the unrealistic standards the dude is chasing.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/25 08:23 PM
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No they don’t. Some women do. A lot don’t. Other women tell them to on Reddit. A whole lot of them forgive. I’ve seen many posts that begin with ‘Husband did X 5 years ago but we saw a couples therapist and worked through it… now I caught him again’.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/25 06:39 PM
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It not being all men doesn’t make it benign though. It’s still very prevalent.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/25 06:28 PM
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I know women who this happened to in school. Kids (including teenagers) are really nasty sometimes. It definitely destroys confidence and causes incredible embarrassment. My experience of ruthlessness as a young woman was being raped.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/25 05:52 PM
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You think women being concerned about safety is “deflection”. Why are red/black/purple pillers in so much denial about the risk to women’s safety? Any mention of violence against women and girls and suddenly it’s “deflection” or it’s got “nothing to do with the discussion” when it has everything to do with the discussion. I watched this video a while back. All I can say about hypergamy is that if you use it to inform your dating strategy don’t go complaining in 10 years time that your wife is ma…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/25 10:13 PM
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You are sounding very defeatist. If you are new to a city you need to attend Meetups. There’s a wide range, not all hobby related. Some to talk about philosophy. You’ve said these women are “probably paired off”… why? Some are some aren’t. “Probably” isn’t enough of a reason not to. You are making offensive generalisations about the “type of women” who go to clubs and bars. People go to clubs and bars to socialise and dance. Not necessarily to hookup. If a woman going to clubs and bars excludes …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/25 05:27 PM
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The problem is the responses apply to completely different situations in a different context. Men and women are not equally burdened by potential pregnancy. Whenever the conversation comes up it really just highlights how men (and tbh childless women) don’t understand the massive sacrifices mothers have to make. One comment from a woman who previously got very annoyed with parents saying how difficult it is, after she had kids: it just completely humbles you. Your entire worldview changes. You e…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/25 12:02 PM
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Oh you can point it out, as long as you don’t forget to point out the caveat about domestic abuse. 1 in 3 women and 1 in 4 men in USA. Consistently on this sub it seems to be ignored and minimised, despite the fact it adds context to conversations about things like no fault divorce, single parenthood, women working/not working, abortion, age gaps etc. I’ve yet to have a discussion with a Red/Black/Purple piller who is able to acknowledge the unbiased statistics on this and still have their argum…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/25 04:41 PM
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Domestic violence is the reason we should not stigmatise single mothers. If you stigmatise single parenthood you make it more difficult for people to leave DV relationships. Have you actually read anything about the effects of DV on children?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/25 09:08 AM
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Domestic violence is one of the main reasons people become single parents. It has everything to do with domestic violence. Why is there this wall of denial when it comes to the existence of DV?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/25 09:04 AM
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You “don’t think” there’s data to prove what? What’s your data for single fathers being any better?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/25 09:02 AM
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This is because of domestic violence. If a child is witnessing DV it stunts their development because they are in a constant fight/flight/freeze. DV is very common (1 in 3 women experience it and 1 in 4 men in USA). I have seen this first hand with my child. After her dad left she was suddenly able to learn in school and increased the number of the 100 high frequency words she could read/spell from 20 to all 100 within 2 months. Experiencing DV traumatises children. That’s going to be a huge con…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/25 01:34 PM
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It’s very common in porn. After puberty it often gets darker and is not pink.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/25 08:34 AM
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Also just want to add. The discussion is about men killing women. Men dying at work is not remotely related. It’s just a knee jerk Red Pill response to share those statistics whenever women being killed is mentioned. In this discussion it’s simply not relevant because we are discussing killing in intimate partnerships. Posting those unrelated statistics is very much grasping at straws to make yourself feel oppressed and minimise harm to women. By responding with the Red Pill knee jerk of work/mi…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/25 06:15 PM
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It am a bit shocked you didn’t realise this your reaction is actually encouraging because you clearly recognise that it’s a big problem and it should be all over the news. With the below (unbiased) sources, does that change your attitude at all? Does it help you see why feminists are up in arms? UN stats Bureau of Justice Stats Statista stats NCBI Stats (https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC10933122/ British MP reads out all the names of women killed by men between March 2022-March 2023. It …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/25 05:53 PM
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That’s not how the media works. Generally the more common an occurrence something is the less newsworthy it is. In the UK we lose one woman every 3 days to male violence. In USA 3 women a day die are murdered by current or former partners. Men violence was the number one cause of premature women globally in 2021. Them also killing a lot of fellow men isn’t really an excuse. https://www.womankind.org.uk/resource/a-femicide-factsheet-global-stats-calls-to-action/
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/25 08:30 AM
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That’s a very inflammatory reaction to being shown an alternative perspective. I’m not sure why you brought women who are currently his age in to it. They aren’t part of this dinner table discussion as far as I can tell. Also no clue what “unsavoury” behaviour you are going on about. It sounds like he went on a hateful rant blaming women for all his problems, and his aunt challenged him. This is a normal response to a hateful rant.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/25 04:31 AM
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If they don’t hate them why do they keep murdering them?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/25 04:23 AM
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Some women prefer shaved faces but whenever I talk about facial hair being considered “sexy” it’s usually stubble/beards. It’s definitely not the same thing as asking women to wax off their entire pubic hair on extremely delicate and sensitive skin… maybe even an anal bleaching to really give that baby vibe.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/25 04:14 AM
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and to be honest it’s true because women feel they can criticize women far more in this society than the other way around. When you refer to “society” you mean ‘society now’. What about when your aunt was your age? Until very recently women were constantly criticized. Go back and watch some comedy TV shows from when your aunt was your age. Her generation did a lot to help society move past that. So yes, she probably is personally offended.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/25 03:03 AM
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I didn’t ask you for a review of the Barbie movie. I asked you to refer back to an example of a monologue on this topic - never being able to please people. It is a normal life experience regardless of gender that you will try to do as someone wishes and it ends up not being the “right” thing. This is not a male experience. It’s just a life experience. So much of this sub seems to be men facing normal inconveniences of being a person and blaming it on women. The reason I asked your age is becaus…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/25 02:45 AM
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To me it sounded like an excellent demonstration of what we in the UK would say is “damned if you do damned if you don’t”. Which is what OP is describing and what people (not just men, not just women) experience every day. If you want to pull out Film Studies For Dummies you’re welcome, but you’re using it to conveniently distract from the fact what OP is describing is very much not a man-specific phenomenon. It’s just life.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/25 02:23 AM
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I feel like this is the only answer we need to this question.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/25 01:58 AM
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How old are you? When you say she won’t “admit” to it, what do you mean? If you haven’t seen America Ferreira’s character’s monologue in Barbie Movie go watch it.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/25 01:44 AM
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That’s bc men are too busy sexualising and adoring any traits women show that are childlike or “innocent”. Like wanting women to have no pubes and calling them “honey”, “sweetie”, even in professional settings… especially in professional settings. They also will call women “girls” when asking for dating advice, but in an age gap discussion insist those “girls” are women. I’ve never heard manbaby but I have heard manchild. The thing is sons are not going to grow in to mothers. While girls often g…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/25 12:41 AM
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Lololll
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/25 01:03 AM
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I am autistic. Yes I have had problems with Autistic men. Most recently it was at autism conference where one man was following me around and asking me to go to his room despite me expressing disinterest. Another man at the same conference was talking to me about sexual stuff and paying excessive attention to me. He is actually in a polyamorous relationship with my friend. I spoke to my friend about it, they had a word with him and then he sulked for the rest of the time I was there and walked o…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/25 01:52 PM
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I didn’t feel comfortable in nightclubs until I was about 33 (I’m autistic)… actually had only been to them a handful of times. Now I’m fine with it, I go dancing at nightclubs as often as possible and have met a lot of women that way. Try it.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/25 08:10 PM
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Yeah but you can still get people’s numbers and arrange dates. I do hookups mostly bc I have a disabled kid so no time for a relationship
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/25 03:53 PM
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Well drunk people are horny. Nightclubs work well for me for hookups.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/25 03:49 PM
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What kind of dancing are you going to? Maybe you need to try a different setting.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/25 03:16 PM
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I disagree. Geography is a thing you rarely hear Red Pill men acknowledge as one of the reasons they can’t date. If you live in a sparsely populated place then you will encounter fewer people. A lot of what gets us in to relationships or keeps us on the periphery is self-esteem issues. If you don’t respect yourself then you aren’t going to respect or believe someone who is attracted to you. People are attracted to patterns from early relationships that are unresolved also.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/25 04:09 AM
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I’d ask him what he enjoys doing and what he’s good at. It could be anything from ping pong to writing, whatever it is. Then suggest he goes and does that thing near women. The reason being he will naturally appear confident because he’s comfortable doing the thing and can do it with ease. I know there will be a lot of guys who think there’s nothing they’re good at, or what they are good at is not attractive to women. These are limiting beliefs and they’ll keep you single. Therapy can help. If y…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/25 03:26 PM
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A lot of autistic women also have high labido because we are sensory seeking. It’s something you would need to discuss in advance but a lot of autistic women would be fine (even relieved) to have that kind of set up where they get to spend most of their time alone. Autistic people tend to prefer direct communication (without hidden subtext or body language cues) so you can just discuss that openly. They probably would appreciate the opportunity to “info dump” on you where they basically tell you…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/25 02:48 PM
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Did you just call Jordan Peterson prestigious? He’s nothing but a verbose narcissist. Very similar to Russell Brand in communication style. Like they think eating a thesaurus makes them intelligent. You seem to be referring to hypotheses as if they are facts. You cannot prove these hypotheses in the present day. Human nature varies a lot between us. I understand that it feels a lot easier to reduce women down to basic “natural” desires makes you feel more in control when dating, but the reality …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/25 01:17 PM
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You are talking about autistic women. Yes we exist. What you describe is what (in the UK at least) we refer to with autistic children as “parallel play”. So two autistic kids, in the same room, playing on their own but it’s bonding and socially fulfilling for them. Neurotypical people want to see the kids interacting with each other. I do it with my niece, with my friends and also with 1:1 peer support. We will sit in the same room on our phones and make the odd comment to our another., have a s…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/25 01:04 PM
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Oh god not the projecting neurotypical behaviour on to all women again. Neurotypical people say stuff like that as part of their social rules. If it bothers you then maybe you’re autistic? I am an autistic woman and find what you describe equally as frustrating, but I associate it with people being NT, not a gendered thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/25 02:24 PM
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I think the issue here is that there are a LOT of women and preferences vary hugely between women. You can’t expect half the population to think in sync with one another. We wouldn’t have survived as a species if women’s preferences were identical. Of course we will contradict one another. If you want to use the word “hypocrite” you need to aim it at an individual.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/25 02:21 PM
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I’m not seeing how people who want to use condoms are “screwed”. There are lots of sex related things that people don’t agree on. It’s not just condoms, there are specific acts some people love and others hate, that just means they’re not sexually compatible. It’s refreshing to read about you taking responsibility for the contraception, a lot of men put that responsibility on the woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/24 08:44 PM
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Which Matriarchy’s can you point to that enforced misandry? I personally live in UK and although I’ve spent a lot of times in the States and travelled a bit in Europe I’ve never been somewhere that was a Matriarchal society, nor can I think of any off the top of my head. I’m not sure why we need to assume that it will “enforce” hatred of men.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/24 06:55 PM
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Phraseology is irrelevant if you understood what I meant. Wrong. Slip ups in phraseology tell you a lot about a person’s attitudes and beliefs. If she doesn’t have to go to work, then her needs are being met by someone who does. Huh? Is he eating, going to the loo on her behalf while he’s at work? You are correct that a lot more women work these days. This has been really helpful in gaining insight in to the differences between domestic work and going out to work. Especially in the UK where we g…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/24 06:01 PM
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Interesting you think the opposite of a patriarchal society is a “misandrist” society, when in fact the word you are looking for is matriarchy. No we don’t live in a matriarchal society. That is simply not a reality. The reason it is easier for men to abuse power in hetero relationships is that the patriarchy has an expectation women will do all the work around the house and meet the needs of her husband and child, while putting herself last. The husband just has to go to work, come home and his…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/24 10:14 AM
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I think there are 2 reasons: 1) women care more about if the relationship is healthy. Patriarchal values mean it’s easier for men to stay in relationships where there’s an imbalance of power, because they are usually the ones with more power. Therefore a marriage might feel great for them but feels like a prison for the woman 2) lesbians rush in to things
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/24 10:54 AM
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Yeah I have encountered so many women who are in abusive relationships and their only justification for staying with them is “love”. This statement about loving them might come after they’ve just complained to their friend about the way this guy is mistreating her. If you ask what they “love” about him they struggle to answer. Not only that, women want the happy ending they saw in Disney films and this can make leaving very difficult because it shatters the dream.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/24 11:11 AM
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The Red Pill use “evolutionary science” a lot despite having no way to prove any of the theories. Look around and see how different everyone is in terms of skin colour, ear size, hair colour, nose shape etc etc. It is illogical to think that our brains would not also be this diverse. If we were all the same at our core we probably wouldn’t be as successful as we are.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/24 10:26 AM
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sex should be done between 2 Adult individuals who clearly consent towards it and without any forms of coercion The term “enthusiastic consent” is used to help people make a distinction between coerced/reluctant sex and proper full consent. It might help to put it in terms Red Pill men understand - Starfish is not enthusiastic consent. Someone who is trying to rip your shirt off and undo your belt is enthusiastic. Often threats are not direct, but implicit. It can be pressure a man is putting on…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/24 10:09 AM
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In my youth Christina Aguilera - she made an album called “Stripped” which was very genuine and feminist for its time. Unlike a lot of the Disney crew she never went off the rails and got in to drugs and I believe that’s because she genuinely dealt with her emotions through the songs she wrote and her singing. Whereas the others just sang songs written for them. There’s even a song about DV between her parents which was very rare at the time. Jacinda Arden for leading with compassion and balance…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/24 12:27 PM
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1) literally saw a post from a guy on Reddit the other day that needs to be in a certain position. 2) smells? What you talking about? I like a bit of a smell. It turns me on more. Post gym v is good v. Maybe you’re a prude….?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/24 10:28 PM
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In my experience of sleeping with men that’s a discussion that happens.. like you talk about specific sex sessions and discuss them “that time in X place” or talk about what makes them good or not. Starfish don’t want to be there. They are dissociating. It’s not good for them either.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/24 10:25 PM
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Well the second one I didn’t realise her age until she took me back to her student accommodation. The other one actually seduced me using Game so…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/24 05:40 PM
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Why do you think we dislike the young women? We want to protect them. It is so utterly delusional and self centred to think women care that much about what men think. Like you really think men are the centre of the universe? I personally don’t even fuck men so why would I care? Might sound hypocritical but I did actually date an early twenties woman last year. I also slept with a 10/10 early twenties woman recently. I’m 37. So nah, it’s that we are protective and also some of us are getting more…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/24 05:11 PM
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That’s a false equivalency. Banning abortion would have social consequences. Why is it insane to use protection? You know women take pills, have IUD’s etc? You know what’s actually insane - often when women give birth their vagina rips through to their back passage and for then every time they try to shit it comes out through the vagina. It’s extremely painful but you would never know to look at them. They have to just get on with it (lifting baby, waking up in the night, changing diapers) - tou…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/24 04:02 PM
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In the UK people talk about “parental rights” when legally these don’t exist. It is “parental responsibility” that they are referring to. The paper abortion idea just gives men a get out of jail free card to stealth women and get them pregnant. Put them in a position where they have to make a decision about abortion OR raising a child in poverty without resources. Once the woman has given birth what is “fair” to the parents is irrelevant - it’s about what is fair to the baby. Having a child cost…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/24 10:42 AM
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Women don’t “give” sex, they have sex. Women have sex so they can experience sexual pleasure and cum (although sex can be good without that part too). As a woman I have sex with other women purely for pleasure, and they are doing the same thing. Not necessarily looking for love. I personally don’t have time for a LTR right now.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/24 01:54 PM
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Even if USA only draft men, what makes you think feminists approve of that? In terms of fertility men can spunk thousands of sperm a week, women release one egg a month. You cannot compare.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/24 02:11 PM
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The reason for talking about it is that these beauty standards cause women significant distress often resulting in eating disorders which are frequently fatal. We need to talk about it to let women (and men) know that these standards are not realistic. Men need to hear about it so they can stop pushing these harmful beauty standards on women. They need to have realistic expectations in terms of what their partners may look like. Men need to stop body shaming women and using appearance based insu…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/24 06:40 PM
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This is bullshit. It’s so far from that and this attitude just demonstrates how so many men think they are the best thing on this planet. Older women advise against these relationships because they distrust the older men and want to protect the younger women.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/24 04:43 PM
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For example, the typical bad guy would have been complete outcasts and real incels throughout the entire history of mankind Hard disagree! I think there is a fundamental misunderstanding of “bad guys” here. These people have been present through history, and they follow very similar and predictable patterns. They exist all over the world, in all cultures and they are not only men. There are plenty of women the same, it’s just the patriarchy makes it much easier for the men to abuse their power. …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/24 04:29 PM
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To clarify I’m a gay woman (lesbian). But I was married to a man. I was essentially what you would call a “Trad wife”. But I also dated men. On that thread what I noticed was a lot of women seemed kind of defensive at the suggestion they would find themselves in such a position. They didn’t want to admit they would be jealous and found it easier to kind of elevate themselves above the entire situation. It’s naive. l am autistic and just put the elevating themselves above the situation down to th…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/24 08:49 PM
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Also, obviously I don’t know if you are diagnosed as autistic or not but if you are struggling to do all the mind reading shit you need to get yourself in to a situation where that is not expected of you. For me that means dating autistic people. We then just discuss it openly. Like the last person I slept with literally just said “shall we play Bannanagrams or kiss?” And obviously I was horny so I chose kiss.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/24 08:39 PM
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I’ll edit that. You are projecting neurotypical social norms on to women as a whole. I think a lot of women believe that their neurotypical behaviour is just how women are and men don’t understand it because they’re men. No. What they describe with body language etc is not universal to all women. Autistic women are also often disliked by neurotypical women. Even if we are not trying to date them, we make social faux pas. I think a lot of what you are referring to in terms of paradoxes are around…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/24 08:31 PM
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Thanks. I found it. I’ve had a look. Yeah I didn’t realise when you were talking about how men treated their exes in the past it was in the context of them treating ex better. My bad. I mean I think if someone I was dating treated an ex drastically “better” (as in gift giving etc) it would be a red flag to me. For sure I would feel jealousy but also I would find it really WEIRD. Like I’m going to need to know what psychological journey you’ve been through to get to that point and if it hasn’t in…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/24 08:12 PM
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What’s the post title? Or can you link it pls.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/24 07:48 PM
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This is an interesting take because what I have noticed is that the men who are drawn to Red Pill ideology seem to be a lot less capable of understanding nuance and tend to view things in a very black and white way. This (imo) is partly why TRP is so attractive to autistic men. It simplifies all this stuff. It gives you a very oversimplified formula for understanding dating and gender relations. There are plenty of men who are able to understand nuance and would easily be able to tell the differ…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/24 07:44 PM
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Full disclosure - I haven’t read through the reasons you care because I don’t need to. It’s pretty simple, if they treated the ex badly that indicates both character and also predicted future behaviour. Are you sure this is a gendered difference? It’s pretty common among women to care a lot about how their ex treated their partner. In fact, I would have said it would be men that don’t understand why women care. Ever heard women say “if all their exes are crazy - it’s a red flag”. That’s because …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/24 07:03 PM
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Well they’re not mandatory, last 2 people I dated I didn’t meet on an app. It is less common for men to approach women but it does still happen. I’m 37 and it happens every time I go out to a straight bar/club (also in gay bars but it’s women approaching obviously). The age limit thing puts people at a disadvantage if they are wanting to date people much younger than themselves. I can see if you are dating straight men then yes I think they probably try to filter out “post wall” women even if th…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/24 05:01 PM
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No. That response is a cop out. Saying “then you’re part of the problem” doesn’t make sense when someone is breaking down something an analysing different perspectives. “Part of the problem” would be not engaging in any discussion about it and not trying to understand the other’s perspective. What about the Duluth Model is man hating? We have acknowledged it’s problematic, through lack of representation. Just a reminder - unless you are bi/pan both you and I are only at future risk from female p…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/24 01:56 PM
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It sounds like you had a really unhelpful and invalidating experience with the first place you tried to seek help for abuse. I can understand that would be off putting, but did you try elsewhere? The Duluth model is problematic for many reasons, but I don’t see how this is “Man-hating”. Both men and people in same sex relationships are let down by that model. There’s a couple of documentary’s on men who are victims. It might be helpful for you to watch them. It’s something men need to talk about…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/24 07:04 PM
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What do you class as treating you badly though? Why are you equating fear with treating someone badly?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/24 04:17 PM
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I think the thing with things like BPD is it’s not immediately visible. It’s more something you would pick up in behaviours. Personality disorders are controversial anyway, I kind of define people as “high conflict” or not. High conflict people often have diagnoses like NPD & BPD. If someone behaves with me in a way similar to that of high conflict people I will usually get an uneasy feeling and find my mind goes in to overdrive trying to make sense of our interactions. With men though it’s a lo…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/24 04:14 PM
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I think you are quoting me there, possibly not but we had a similar exchange which you can still reply to. I pointed out to you that it’s absolutely natural to fear something that has harmed you in the past. It’s basic survival instinct. I also commented that I have tried very hard to challenge my fear/bias against men, by joining groups with men in them, trying to sit with the alarm signals my body was naturally sending (to keep me safe) and I discussed this process in therapy. The response was…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/24 02:40 PM
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I think you means survival, not sexism.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/24 10:43 AM
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Just to clarify are you saying victims of rape and domestic abuse are instigating the violence against them?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/24 10:42 AM
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I think you are getting confused between hate and fear. Women aren’t born hating men. Over time a lot of women grow to fear and resent men due to life experiences. I don’t understand why Red Pillers cannot acknowledge that our fear is legit. Like Jameela Jamil’s analogy makes sense. She’s not calling all men balls of shit, she’s calling rapists and violent men balls of shit, and pointing out that we cannot distinguish which type of man they are.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/24 04:30 PM
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Passport bros are not what OP is talking about. In those situations there’s a clear motive for the woman. If they were from the same country these men wouldn’t get the same women.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/24 03:01 PM
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I think it’s just that women have nice curves and soft features, whereas men are very straight up and down with not much interesting. I mean you see this in nature all the time. If you put a cow and a horse next to each other obviously the horse is objectively more beautiful. It’s the softness and curves I think.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/24 02:53 PM
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Duuuuude you gave some bs statistic - you are the one that introduced statistics. If it had been remotely realistic I wouldn’t have asked. wtf do you mean it’s “distributed better”. It distributes how it wants and that certainly does not mean it goes to the arse and tits first. It’s a genetic lottery.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/24 07:55 PM
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You are the one who introduced statistics bro, wasn’t me. I was just pointing out how flawed your little straw poll was. Women have a much higher body fat percentage than men and it’s much more difficult for us to gain muscle mass. Women cannot maintain a low body fat percentage if we have low muscle mass. We would need to eat a minuscule amount of food. For context - I say this as someone who has never been overweight. But to keep a healthy body fat percentage I have to be working out 3 times a…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/24 06:31 PM
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It doesn’t make sense because of testing capacity and logistics. Currently only a fraction of the equipment necessary exists, so you would have to manufacture all the equipment first - where’s the money coming from? How long will it take? You then have to find the space to turn in to labs and all the personnel required to carry out the testing. This would be a massive training operation - again, who is paying? You would have to coordinate the taking and transporting of samples. If all that could…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/24 12:17 PM
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Do you understand the word “disproportionately”?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/24 11:51 AM
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This is a ridiculous guess at a statistic. On so many levels. You have no way of measuring it, do you at least have some scientific theory to back this up?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/24 11:50 AM
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I would definitely still want a relationship. I am divorced and wouldn’t ever remarry regardless. The things you are listing are services, they aren’t company & connection. I don’t mind the odd meal out alone, but if I’m a billionaire I want someone I can enjoy things like holidays with. Someone I can build a relationship with over time and feel a deep connection with. Seeing posts like this really highlights why some guys struggle so much with dating. You don’t even seem to be aware of what peo…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/24 12:15 PM
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They built a culture around it, modern day society is built of [sic] this intentionally misleading interpretation. Just to clarify - are you saying modern society is built around this individual statistic? If yes, can you explain a bit more about why you believe that and how it is built around that? I think the majority of people don’t know about this statistic.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/24 09:46 AM
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Nah I don’t have close friends who are cis men. I have tried but didn’t get any meaningful emotional support and ultimately they end up making a move. I don’t really interact with them much socially anyway. Pretty much all social events I attend are FLINTA (female, lesbian, intersex, transgender, asexual) only. It’s annoying because there are lots of Meetup groups I’d like to join online when I’m struggling to get out but time and time ago the ones with men in you’ll get at least one creep. I ac…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/24 05:44 PM
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How have you turned this in to a gendered thing? You are describing a lot of gen z behaviour. It’s a response to social media. Not necessarily women doing this all the time. The reason for the repetitive pictures is because there is more pressure on women to look good, and a lot more shaming based on looks is directed at women. It’s no wonder many of them are trying to get exactly the right image. This is not a Pill issue.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/24 05:29 PM
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you basically painted me as a rapist No you painted yourself as someone who doesn’t respect women’s boundaries and coerces them in doing things they say no to sexually. You literally admitted that. You might not view it as problematic (hence sharing it here) but factually that is what you are describing and that is not okay. You’ve tried a whole bit in one of your paragraphs about my mental health, because I go to therapy? The most fucked up and dangerous people are the ones who think they don’t…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/24 12:17 PM
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This is a very long and angry reply. It’s how you react to your sexual performance being called in to question by a stranger on the internet. Imagine if it was a woman you just slept with in person. Scary. Either you have only slept with a couple of people, or there are people out there who didn’t have a good time and lied. It happens to everyone. You would benefit from learning to accept that and not have it destroy your fragile shell of masculinity. I hear a lot from Manosphere types that wome…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/24 11:34 AM
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“Society” is a feminist term now? This is a problem that seems to recur with those on the right. When you get in to a discussion, if it’s too complicated for them to understand they just outright reject what’s being said and move to this “cut the crap” attitude. The problem is “the crap” consists of entirely valid, longstanding academic subjects. Things like psychology, sociology, ethics. That’s not to say there are no right wingers who understand and explore those things, it’s just that they us…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/24 11:14 AM
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Depends on the woman and what they value. But even when we do it for ourselves, would it make us feel good if appearance was valued as highly in society? I used to care very much about my appearance and not leave the house without makeup. I have done a lot of therapy. Now I don’t care what strangers think. I don’t wear it day to day. The times I do are usually for myself. 1) when I am on video calls and have to look at myself 2) I’m looking to get laid 3) photos will be taken and I’ll have to lo…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/24 09:12 AM
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There’s a big difference between individual men’s options when the person they are interacting with is a prospective sexual partner… and men in general commenting on women. Women are body shamed regularly in mainstream society. If this wasn’t a concern then you wouldn’t have women harming themselves in order to be considered attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/24 11:04 PM
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Male beauty standards are pretty new. Women are still disproportionately expected to conform to unattainable beauty standards.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/24 08:48 PM
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Bold of you to assume I’ve never slept with a straight woman. What you are describing, such as saying “my dirty little slut” is something that happens a lot in porn. I mean it just sounds like you are quoting directly from porn. Women complain about men doing this shit all the time. How old are you? I’m curious because it’s coming across like you’ve got your entire sex education from porn. It’s highly degrading and not what most women want. It’s TV. Most women want to be respected. If they’ve gr…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/24 05:49 PM
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Where do you live? I’m just curious because in UK and USA military has both men and women. It is also not mandatory. It is a choice. If war should break out and military duty was forced, you don’t know yet whether women will be included in these conscriptions. It would have a significantly negative impact on the population if women were going to war and not coming home in large numbers. In Ukraine I don’t think it’s okay that anyone is forced to fight. However, the purpose of war is to defend th…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/24 03:25 PM
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If people don’t reproduce who are we going to be violent towards? And who is going to do the fighting if nobody is being born? You need people to start a war. Pregnancy is responsible for people being born. You are saying ending lives is a the biggest responsibility, but what about starting lives?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/24 03:17 PM
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then that usually means she doesn’t like hair pulling because some guy who had no idea what he was doing tried it and it sucked. I’m struggling to believe this is your genuine view. Hair pulling is degrading and it hurts. That’s why a lot of women don’t like it. The way you are talking about not respecting women’s wishes and trying to make them enjoy things they don’t want to do is actually sickening. No they won’t tell you to your face they didn’t like it. If you’ve just disregarded a boundary …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/24 11:32 AM
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Where did you get that impression? Can you be more specific?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/24 11:04 AM
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Which part is a lie?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/24 11:02 AM
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War doesn’t trump all responsibilities - childbirth and child rearing does. Do you realise there are women in the military? You’re acting like there isn’t. I’m pretty sure most feminists do not support mandatory military service anyway. I clearly stated that I don’t. People should choose if they want to be in the military, and lots of women do choose that.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/24 11:01 AM
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Not forcing… but if they don’t who is going to be fighting in the military in 30 years time? Even if women want kids it doesn’t take away the physical toll. The “it’s your choice so you can’t complain” argument is overly simplistic and just really annoys me tbh.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/24 10:55 AM
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What??? Your comment makes no sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/24 10:53 AM
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That sentence was just a clarification prior to the rest of my comment. Had I not included it people would have assumed I think it’s okay for men to be conscripted. My comment wasn’t intended as an invitation to discuss international relations and military strategy. That’s not a topic of interest for me.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/24 07:03 PM
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it’s biology you dipshit Classy. Are we talking about hypotheticals or not? You can’t pick and choose. I stated very clearly, in bold, that I do not agree with anyone being forced in to military service. I don’t think men should have to do that. However, I am troubled by the amount of posts I see on Reddit where men think any hardship they go through should have an equal hardship placed on women for no good reason other than ‘no fair’.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/24 06:20 PM
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If you feel what I mentioned was irrelevant why did you reply? This isn’t an international relations sub. It’s about dating & sort of gender politics. I read the post as a typical Red Pill rant about how it’s unfair that men are forced to do military service in some places (which I agree with). I responded accordingly.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/24 06:07 PM
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Oooookay…. Why is that a relevant response to my comment?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/24 05:27 PM
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what do you think we do when we’re single? I think you take care of yourselves and only yourselves. You do not have to put needs of children before your own needs. How surprising you want to leave the birthing to women. It’s not like carrying abs birthing the child is a massive, dangerous, painful ordeal for our bodies to go through. /s. I also just want to point out it’s not that women think men are incapable of doing anything domestic… it’s that they act as if they’re incapable. They expect wo…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/24 05:26 PM
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I’ll preface this by saying I’m a pacifist and I don’t believe in drafting anyone in to the military against their will. First we need to clarify something - you (and other men) do not recognise women’s obligations. Women are already expected to do the bulk of child rearing and emotional/domestic labour. You can try to escape the fact any which way you like, but realistically women are expected to birth and rear children, despite the huge responsibility and toll it takes on our bodies. Secondly …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/24 04:40 PM
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Ummm… do you really just insult women randomly? Then you are surprised people defend them? wtf? There isn’t one way to be attractive anyway. Beauty ideals vary among cultures and over time. Between ages of 18-33 I didn’t sleep with any women and during that time I became convinced my tastes aligned quite closely to the beauty ideals I encountered in the media. Once I actually started having regular sex that shit fell apart and my tastes changed a lot.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/24 06:21 PM
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What? I don’t understand what you mean about smiley faces. Domestic violence rates would be a good thing to track. So things like the number of women killed by their partner/ex-partner each year. At the moment, in the UK, women are more likely to be killed by their partner than be killed from not wearing seatbelt during a car crash. Getting that number down would be a priority.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/24 12:52 PM
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No. I am opposed. I have one child and I wish her dad wasn’t the real father. If there was any chance of an alternative I would be all over that test. I’m not going to sleep with a man ever again so I don’t have a stake in this. The issue genuinely is logistics & resources. It doesn’t make sense. This isn’t to say that it’s not an injustice for a guy to pay for a kid that’s not his. It is. It’s just that there are bigger injustices that have more of a negative effect on society at large. Those t…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/24 12:47 PM
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Children, once born, are more important than what a man wants to do. I had a similar discussion on Reddit earlier in the week and people really struggle to accept what they view as “unfair” between parents is irrelevant once kid is on this earth. It’s all about what is fair to the kid. They also struggle to accept the lack of control you have once a parent. This, as a parent, is a typical attitude I have observed in people who either don’t have kids and/or have been very fortunate in life. They’…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/24 12:24 PM
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I’m going to sort of disagree. I do think men need to be better at sex, but I think it’s hard to achieve that with a Red Pill ideology. The way Red Pill views women fundamentally is monolithic and objectifying. Having practical instructions on how to be good in bed will not give the illusion that he views the woman as a person rather than an object. The motivation is self-interest. If you are only trying to please her so you get more sex, and you are pleasing her based on what your bros tell you…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/24 12:12 PM
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Your post is a bit confusing because it seems to conflate women who go for bad guys with particular kinks. You’d be surprised how many guys who appear to be what you’d call “nice guys” are in to kink. People overall are attracted to relationship styles that feel familiar - even if familiar is bad. It gets mistaken for “we were meant to be together”. People who have had healthy well adjusted childhoods with healthy attachments to parents generally go for people who are the same. Zoom out from the…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/24 05:39 PM
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No bra, tattoos, septum piercing was a big one, now more are getting the eyebrow piercing or a little chink shaved in the eyebrow. Less makeup. I’d say overall larger bodies are valued more highly than tiny bodies. Very high femme can be quite off putting for many I think because it’s a reminder of something they were told they should be but never felt comfortable.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/24 05:18 PM
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lol. My advice would be the same advice I would give a woman who thinks she can “change” a man - they won’t change. They might pretend to change for a bit to keep you happy, but trying to make them change is both fruitless and controlling.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/24 04:34 PM
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I’m lesbian but I’ve slept with quite a few men and none of them shaved their armpits. I don’t shave mine because I can’t be bothered and when people can actually see it I’m often in less clothing and therefore it serves as a man repellent. Hair regrowing after shaving can be uncomfortable. But once it’s grown out I don’t notice. I like hairy women. I first encountered them in rooms full of horny lesbians not wearing a lot of clothing and making out with each other, so naturally my brain made th…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/24 04:12 PM
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Lesbian here!! My clothing style and stuff used to be very femme and catering to the male gaze because my sisters and dad made fun of me if I dressed too “masculine”. When I first went to a lesbian event I was blown away. People are not dressing for the male gaze on the whole. Some are, but we have our own beauty standards and people who try to adhere to them. For example septum piercings are considered quite sexy in the lesbian community and I got one because it attracts lesbians and reduces ma…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/24 04:07 PM
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Huh? Are you sure about that or are you just repeating stuff you’ve heard elsewhere? Women acknowledge privilege all the time, for example when it comes to race, socioeconomic background etc. In terms of gendered behaviour and romance, I think you’ve got a blind spot in acknowledging the difficulties women experience. I also think you have an exaggerated sense of how men are affected.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/24 08:33 AM
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People still say stuff, “Oh you’re just not man enough for that”. I have never heard the opposite of that. I think you haven’t heard the opposite of that because you are a M A N. People make sexist comments to women all the time regarding their femininity (or lack thereof). Calling women slurs, accusing them of being men, insinuating a pretty very feminine woman is a stupid “bimbo”. I really don’t think it helps you to view the world in this way. Like you are competing with women to be more oppr…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/24 05:24 PM
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Bring back recess? Have they stopped that?! Sorry, I’m not American, I understand recess to be what we call “break time” or “playtime” which is between lessons where you can go run about, chill with friends, have a snack. I don’t understand how they could make kids go all day without breaks? I think mandatory education on healthy relationships would help, psychoeducation and more recreation spaces for people to hang out. There is a really good Youth Club near me, it’s sports facilities, gym, cli…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/24 12:53 AM
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What? Women “fuck and chuck” all the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/24 12:06 AM
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I used to feel like I had to be feminine to be accepted by men, by that I mean quiet, taking up as little space as possible, being very agreeable even to things I objected to, be perfect housewife, being sexy, looking pretty etc. When I stopped being so passive and catering to a man’s needs they became abusive. I no longer date men and so I don’t have this pressure. My natural appearance is (as described by many men) “pretty, feminine, petite”. To shield from men’s sexual interest I have to put …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/24 05:27 PM
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Well it’s a privilege to be able to earn a living doing what you enjoy. My dad is the same. He’s 71 and still working because his job is literally his passion & hobby. Most jobs are not enjoyable, but are necessary to society. If everyone was fortunate enough to be able to make a living out of their passions then there would be huge staffing gaps in the more boring jobs. Capitalism just doesn’t allow for everyone to have the freedom you have. Might be better for you to acknowledge your good fort…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/24 08:21 AM
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Still not following. Too far how? Did I make any absolute statements that imply women are always paying themselves/men never? No. Since I didn’t I’m not sure where your “sometimes” comes in. It’s not necessary.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/24 04:40 PM
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I’m struggling to understand why you thought I was “pushing it too far”. For some people social media is quite lucrative. I just don’t see why you would assume someone else is funding it.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/24 12:57 PM
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That’s not my experience at all. Women absolutely do save money and use it to fund travelling. The Instagram people aren’t representative of the population - they are just pretending for social media. You can’t take them seriously. They might be very visible on social media but the majority are not in that position. Regular women do travel a lot, self funded. I will add the caveat here that I live in the UK and we have minimum of 28 days off work (paid) a year. I know the employment law in the s…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/24 12:02 PM
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I got called “an extreme outlier” on this forum once. I can’t remember exactly why but I think it was to do with me being a lesbian chad. What actually are the stereotypes for women?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/24 11:15 AM
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Well often they’ve both grown up in dysfunctional environments. Both are responsible for keeping it healthy. If the guy is a “good guy” but gets “chased away” if he’s not paying child support he’s obviously not a good guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/24 11:03 AM
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I’m not attracted to any men. What I like about them is similar to what I like about women I’m not attracted to - talking about shared interest, sense of humour etc. The way you view this is very extreme. Women are not as extreme as you describe when it comes to attractions vs repulsion. It’s just not true. There are plenty of women who are very balanced in their attitudes.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/24 10:57 AM
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No clue, especially if the woman grew up witnessing an unhealthy relationship. They do the whole love bombing thing, use Rules to present a false version of themselves and manipulate the woman… then years later she finds out who he really is. Women who are in their early twenties still haven’t given away all their second chances so still got a lot of benefit of the doubt to dish out. I have a friend who was married 15 years and in the days before giving birth to her 3rd child discovered her husb…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/24 10:49 AM
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They don’t have time to go out and form relationships, and are often fleeing from abusive relationships. They’ve got to be at work or with the kids. No time for dates/social time. The fathers often will manipulate them to begin with to make them think he’s a descent guy, then fuck off after they’ve had kids together. Often the guy is violent so she had to leave him. Men will work cash in hand jobs and find other ways of hiding income to avoid paying child support.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/24 08:57 AM
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Dude check you out trying to psychoanalyse people. Another perspective, since we are psychoanalysing people, is you are seeing a lot of women on dating apps talking about travel and you resent the sense of freedom they have. It’s a common thing to have very visible on your profile but in my experience I’ve never gone on an irl date with someone who talks about it constantly. People put things on dating apps to show they are interesting. Travel is enjoyable and highly interesting so yeah of cours…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/24 08:51 AM
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Just to clarify - where are you encountering this “narcissistic personality around travel”? I think it’s on dating apps. Is it dating apps?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/24 08:44 AM
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I think a lot of women are worried about insulting the guy. Lots of men react badly to any sort of guidance. A lot of women don’t actually know what they like. When I slept with men I was young and what I wanted in bed didn’t actually factor in. I just wanted to be accepted by a male. I viewed sex as a performance I put on for them. When I did try to give guidance it was met with anger. Now I sleep with women. I don’t usually ask them what they like before we have slept together as it’s a bit pr…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/24 04:46 PM
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I don’t think it’s reasonable to give those parameters about romantic success without including geography. Obviously if you live in a small town in your chances are very different if you live in a big city. I live in a big city hut previously didn’t meet friends of friends often because my friends tended to be people I met in separate places, like school, a job I had for 3 months etc etc. I’d meet them for a drink or coffee but that was it really. I know I’m not a romantically unsuccessful man, …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/24 01:34 PM
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One would cause pain and internal damage, the other wouldn’t. Pressuring a partner to do that to themselves is absolutely emotional abuse. If someone isn’t enthusiastic when you have sex most people would break up. There are toys that can help a man have increased stimulation but you don’t need to mention the bit your partner can’t physically change. Just say you want to try stuff that enhances the experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/24 08:11 PM
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I would say why does it affect 95% of that gender?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/24 07:43 PM
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Is alimony based on gender or earnings?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/24 07:15 PM
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Nah it’s usually just a list of things they don’t like about their ex. It comes across as really negative and almost confrontational. I speak as someone swiping on women, so it’s not just men that this applies to.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/24 11:20 AM
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I haven’t seen this point of view from anyone. I don’t think in this situation it should be 50/50. However, I would expect the father to watch the young children long enough for mum to have a shower and get some breathing space. While at a place of employment you get guaranteed breaks where you can go to the loo and eat without interruption. This isn’t the case while at home with young kids. So the working parent should absolutely watch kids long enough for the stay at home parent to do those th…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/24 08:27 AM
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Not brushing teeth I don’t understand. In terms of shower I’ll give you my experience as the mother of a male teenager. In order to make the smell not be there they need to use special odour control body wash, get it thoroughly scrubbed in to the armpits. Then need to apply a lot max strength deodorant within 5 minutes of getting out the shower. If any of that goes wrong then they will smell. So like if they don’t get the body wash in properly or wait too long to apply deodorant. Also - nervous …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/24 06:36 PM
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That doesn’t make any sense. Firstly - I’m not sure they are all feminists. Secondly - they don’t have one mind. Feminists are individual people, you can’t expect them to have identical values.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/24 08:34 AM
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I’m confused. The woman in the first article doesn’t appear in any of the ones about small dick energy. How are they related?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/24 07:38 PM
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Termination of pregnancy when they cannot provide good environment for the baby, leaving abusive men after realising he tricked them in to a relationship using PUA tactics, choosing school that is best fit for their child, having secret savings in case they need to leave a relationship in a hurry… I mean the list is endless.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/24 01:40 PM
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Because they want to attract them. Women also cater to men. Men are hornier, women are busier with caring roles (children, elderly relatives etc) Men are hornier a combination. They have. e.g. The Art Of Seduction, Rules Of The Game, entire Red Pill Movement. no yes
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/24 01:27 PM
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You seem to have rephrased what I said to suggest I am saying partners shouldn’t take one another in to account. Of course we take things in to account, if your partner isn’t then you leave them. You don’t “demand” they change things for you. You need to take your partner in to account when making “demands”.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/24 11:21 AM
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You very clearly don’t say exactly the same thing as OP but you did come across as toxic and bitter so I’ll give you that.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/24 08:19 PM
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Interesting bc my initial thought, as a woman, is finally this OP is being realistic and willing to accept he has some advantages. Most of the guys in this sub seem to do anything possible to avoid admitting they are anything but victims in dating & relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/24 07:06 PM
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I disagree that respect is a pre-requisite. Perhaps for emotionally well adjusted women it is, but sadly for a lot it isn’t. Are you suggesting that “a phone ass mask” is specific to women? What are the “The Rules” if not an elaborate mask? Even if you do respect her to begin with, it’s much easier to show respect during the fun part of a relationship. Once things get serious and you take on joint responsibility for things respect is harder to maintain. Not taking their share of responsibility i…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/24 05:26 PM
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Erm, what about you respecting her? You know you need to earn respect, and working isn’t enough. Going to work doesn’t give you the licence to do whatever you want when not at work. It sounds like what you “love” is being respected, not the women. Once women lose respect for you, you “fall out of love”.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/24 04:24 PM
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No I don’t demand anything. There are things I look for in a woman and the courting phase is when I find out if we are compatible in those things. If we are not compatible I end it, I don’t demand they change. I wouldn’t want to be with someone who is only monogamous because I demand it. I’d rather be with someone who is monogamous because that’s the type of relationship we both want. A good way to have these conversations is asking “do you have any dealbreakers?” or simply introducing the topic…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/24 03:37 PM
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Decades ago, men brought money to the table. A woman needed a man to provide for her. So men had the upper hand. However, nowadays women don’t need men to pay for stuff, so what leverage do men have? “Leverage” isn’t a word that applies to healthy relationships. Healthy relationships are equal. Men who view relationships in the toxic way you do will give themselves away a lot of times. Which explains the next quote. A lot of women love the attention and sex but the immediately ditch you when you…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/24 02:17 PM
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Autistic woman - 9 I do question your methodology. This would vary hugely based : Age The older you are the more opportunity you have. Looks make a difference. I don’t mean this in an arrogant way but I’m aware I do have “pretty privilege”. Ethnicity helps - I’m white. Socioeconomic background - I didn’t need to work in my teens and my family could afford luxuries. GEOGRAPHY This is a huge factor that people often overlook. I live in a huge diverse city. For example if I wanted to attend a socia…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/24 04:53 PM
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a person would have to be male or a straight woman to understand in the first place. While I appreciate your attempts to invalidate my opinion presumably based on my flair - I have slept with a variety of men, so I’m not sure why my opinion would be less valid than a straight woman. My experience is the only difference it made was the extra skin reduces the need for lube during hand jobs. The sensitivity of nerves I am aware of in theory, however that hasn’t played out in reality in my experienc…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/24 06:06 PM
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Sometimes older women could really be concerned for a younger woman’s well-being. I think that’s actually most of the time that they are concerned for their well-being. Maybe sometimes there are older women who are jealous, but for the most part it’s protective. Often because the older women were at one point in their life in the position the younger women are in, and it ended very badly for them, the carry a lot of regret, and naturally they don’t want others to walk in to the same trap.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/24 04:16 PM
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“Watch what they do not what they say” is a pretty useful bit of advice for all relationships in your life as it helps protect against gaslighting. I can see how in this context it would silence women to an extent. Too often people will call out abusive behaviour and the person being abused says all this stuff in the abuser’s defence. These are things the abuser has said to them “I’m a wonderful father”, “I only get jealous because I love you so much”. But if you actually look at their actions t…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/24 04:12 PM
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Idk I’m a woman so I don’t think 30% all women would be pleased to date me. Maybe 30% of lesbians? You don’t have to answer this, but I’m just wondering if you’ve been sexually active before or are you still waiting? I think the idea of having sex with a woman and the reality of it are quite different. Like things you thought you would find off-putting can become insignificant. There are things you didn’t realise you would find attractive. The connection/chemistry makes a much bigger difference …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/24 03:58 PM
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I’m not entirely sure I understand the point behind all this info in the context of Red/Blue Pill. Women are probably more likely to go to the doctor and also have screening attached to other medical things. For example when I have a smear test I am automatically tested for certain STD’s. Similar happens in pregnancy. I’m not sure men encounter this type of STD testing as much. They have to make the choice to go and get tested.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/24 02:59 PM
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The Red Pill only works on a certain type of woman. It doesn’t work on all women. It’s up to you if you want to attract the women who are materialistic and shallow then go ahead and get stuck in to Red Pill. If you want to meet a woman who you can have a meaningful relationship with then you need to tailor your dating strategy to highlight existing strengths, even if those strengths are not the classic ones Red Pill identified as important.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/24 02:52 PM
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I don’t think anyone is disputing players are good looking. I’m not sure why that’s relevant. Another thing you may not see on the surface that players have in common is that they cheat (at the dating game). They lie about themselves, their achievements, their true personality. It’s not a surprise the cheaters are winning the game. I am stereotypically attractive and get a lot of attention when I’m dancing. But I am also autistic, which means that when a non autistic person swipes on me based on…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/24 02:14 PM
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I’m not sure what you mean about never meeting an ugly player? Being stereotypically attractive is just luck. With regard to your friend - the people we are attracted to is not dictated by the way we look. I personally have slept with very stereotypically attractive women, dancers, women a lot younger than me etc. I always assumed I wouldn’t be attracted to chubby women. Then I slept with one. Now chubby is my preference. The problem with the pills is they are too prescriptive. Some of the theor…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/24 01:53 PM
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The behaviour that’s being analysed is girls who the guys want options with. I want options when buying a car. I’d like the option to buy a Porsche. I’d also like the option to buy a big house. Guess what - reality. You need to accept that there are some things in your life that you can’t have. That includes a harem of beautiful women. You also need to accept that a lot of stuff on the internet is fake, I’m thinking specifically about beauty standards. I guarantee there are women that look hot o…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/24 01:06 PM
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You are misinterpreting what I mean social dominance. I mean they dominate society. I’m not referring to individual social interactions - although it is the case that autistic people are mercilessly bullied throughout their school years. What I mean is the way that everything, from the layouts of supermarkets to the structure of the work day, is all decided by non-autistic people. Societal standards are created and set by non-autistic people. One example: supermarkets are notoriously difficult f…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/24 06:40 PM
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I didn’t say anything about forcing people to date people they don’t want to! Where did you get that from? Please re-read the post and take meaning only from the words I have written. I’m saying that overall socially non autistic people are the ones that need to challenge themselves and learn how to understand autistic people. Not for the purpose of dating, for the purpose of improving the quality of life of autistic people. This is advantageous to non autistic people because autistic people hav…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/24 06:07 PM
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As someone who is British but has spent a lot of time in the States this is my perception - the “individualism” USA values is in terms of responsibility, resources, help and support. It’s “every man for himself” type attitude. This emphasis on “personal responsibility” conveniently distracts from government & cooperate responsibility. In terms of belief, values & social norms individualism is not well tolerated.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/24 05:55 PM
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The reasons autistic people don’t stick to courting autistic people is internalised autistiphobia. These people have absorbed the social norms presented to them and end up hating themselves and their natural instincts. Of course it’s not right for non-autistic people to ignore or avoid autistic people…. Which is why they should stop doing it! It happens literally every day throughout our lives from our first day at school right up to the end stages of lives. Studies show that we are much less li…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/24 05:14 PM
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I always saw it as the ability to understand emotions of yourself and those around you, and respond appropriately. There is a good definition up the post somewhere. The problem with the things you’ve selected - body language, tone, inflection - is that what they mean varies among neurotypes and cultures, and also doesn’t capture responsibility for one’s own emotions. For example non-autistic person might interpret eye contact as connection/trust whereas an autistic person would interpret it as i…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/24 04:45 PM
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Those comments have to be from American women. I’m British and first time I saw an uncut one I was very confused. It doesn’t make a difference to sex at all. I am horrified by the way the US does this as a matter of routine, and a bit dumbfounded that anyone, especially people who care about bodily autonomy, could defend this practice. I think there is a trend with American’s where they will jump through all sorts of hoops to defend social norms, even if they are objectively harmful. I don’t thi…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/24 04:15 PM
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Sounds like a sales tactic? Can you elaborate? What is a sales tactic - letting the woman pay? It’s not really when insisting on paying is viewed as a negative. In the UK we just don’t enter dating assuming that it’s normal to uphold old fashioned gender roles. We have always been more liberal than the US. Pretty much everything is exaggerated in the States, including gender roles and dating customs. If the man wants to pay it’s a clear sign he respects gender roles.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/24 08:48 PM
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Women & men receive a lot of the same socialisation in the UK. But it’s not seen as a “now they want us to pay too”. It’s seen as “he thinks I can’t pay for myself”. Which is offensive. Or it’s assumed if he insists on paying it’s because he wants sex in exchange, again that’s offensive. Or it means that he values traditional gender roles which is off putting to feminists. I also have a father who shows love with money, but my sister has a partner who makes significantly more than her and she st…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/24 07:35 PM
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It’s only misogynistic if you view men’s vulnerability differently to women. The people who do not view young men and teen boys as vulnerable are generally misogynists because as you say, they view women as frail, weak & innocent. But that’s not the issue that people have with age gap relationships. It’s the lack of experience that makes a person vulnerable and I personally would view late teens/early twenties people to all be inexperienced - regardless of gender. I disagree that acknowledging s…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/24 06:46 PM
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I really think the thing of people calling themselves feminists but expecting for men to pay for the bill is very much an American thing. I mean it fits in with American standards of logic and tbh it discredits feminists because it’s such an obvious double-standard. In UK most feminists are averse to men paying. The culture of men paying for dates fizzled out quite a long time ago.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/24 05:49 PM
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There are two separate issues here. 1) boys/men’s vulnerability is not taken seriously when sex is involved. It is beginning to change, but this is caused by the Patriarchy. The gender stereotypes cause this. You cannot both complain about this issue and also try to maintain patriarchal standards & gender stereotypes. 2) misinterpretation by men (and young women) about the concerns people have over age gap relationships. It is not “infantilising”. Put it this way, if you are doing anything that …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/24 05:13 PM
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I sometimes feel this sub should come with ages of posters in the flair. Although American politics is very polarised at the moment, it’s entirely normal through the course of time and over elections that a party will fall out of favour with one demographic, and at the next election they then try to win back the favour of the demographic who don’t vote for them. That’s how democracy works.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/24 05:01 PM
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Huh? I haven’t argued any differently ….
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/24 03:44 PM
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I am confused by this. Straight clubs are a bit of a mystery to me. I’m lesbian and at a queer (FLINTA) party or club I can always hook up with someone if I want to. We get up to all sorts on the dance floor as well and in the toilets. Is this not the case in a straight club? I suppose the toilets are separated by gender in straight clubs so maybe not as common to fuck in the toilets. I’m also interested in how far you are allowed to go sexually in these straight venues? Once I was at a FLINTA p…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/24 03:30 PM
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“Unlimited power” this is hyperbole. Regular people do not assume white men have unlimited power. The have more power for sure, but that varies among socioeconomic backgrounds.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/24 02:33 PM
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The start of your message about TV & social media portraying men as “the most evil oppressors” is objectively untrue. That said - “bad guys” (and girls) cheat. I don’t mean romantically, I mean if dating was a game they are cheating at it by misrepresenting themselves. They lie about accomplishments, personality traits jobs etc. So of course they will do better. Additionally women in particular are attracted to confidence, which these people have bucketloads of. These people act like they’ve got…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/24 02:18 PM
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I’m lesbian but I’ve dated men. Total opposite experience. The men wouldn’t take responsibility for anything. They had the most inventive ways of blaming me for shit that was clearly their fault. I was with this man for years, we were married and had a kid. At no point did he make it past 5 minutes in to penetrative sex without cumming. I was really not enjoying sex (I’m lesbian, I didn’t know this was the reason though) and this man tells me it’s my fault because I’m “too sexy”. I suggested he …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/24 05:20 PM
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I think it’s because human psychology is so complex and varied, and the men drawn to Red Pill are more simplistic with black & white thinking so they find comfort in what sounds logical. In reality it’s not possible to prove theories of evolutionary psychology, and evo psych doesn’t explain the complexities of human (and other animal) behaviour. It is indeed gross.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/24 01:38 PM
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Fleeing abuse isn’t “sharing the spotlight” my dude. TERFs are hideous, the only thing they’ve got going for their argument is that women do often have PTSD triggered by males after fleeing abuse. PTSD and a spotlight are very difficult. If you remove the organisations from the equation and look at non organised support for women leaving abuse, you will find women sticking together, helping one another out of relationships, without any official funded organisation being involved. We just have ea…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/24 01:33 PM
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I don’t think it’s just sperm quality. Men also develop ED as they age. If there were no drugs that could get it up they’d have trouble getting someone pregnant even if they have swimmers still. The drugs are only helpful if your sexual partner wants to schedule sex ahead of time. I think the issue is that men like to use age to degrade and devalue women. Regardless of fertility or sexual attractiveness, women are incredibly valuable to society. Even infertile women. So their fixation on this to…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/24 12:42 PM
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Pressure on women to look good. Men at advantage in world of work. Caring for people other than children also falls on women.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/24 06:35 PM
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All the straight women I know who don’t want children are on birth control of some form - patch, implant, IUD or pill. I don’t know where you get this idea that it’s not commonplace for women to be covering that responsibility on their end. I know at least 3 women who are trying to get sterilised but are coming up against misogynistic doctors who don’t want to approve because they don’t trust these women to know if they want kids in the future. You can’t avoid risk in adult life. It’s not realis…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/24 06:22 PM
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We just all need to be gay. That’s the most enjoyable solution in my experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/24 04:31 PM
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Why do you think all responsibility goes to men? List the responsibilities you believe are left entirely to men. Also, who makes your dinner and does your laundry?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/24 04:30 PM
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Erm… what? Don’t bring my tubal canals in to this. It’s 100% impossible for the people I fuck to impregnate me. You can choose between risking your balls and risking an unwanted pregnancy. Adult life comes with risks. That’s just how it is. You cannot avoid all risk. You have to choose what’s the least risky for you. This is a concept you will encounter in the world of work, finances, travel - everything. There is risk in everything.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/24 04:06 PM
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And? Life comes with risks, responsibilities etc. Getting a vasectomy would massively reduce the risk of an unwanted pregnancy so you may as well do it if you are that averse to taking responsibility for your actions.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/24 03:50 PM
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A child’s needs need to be met regardless of who did or didn’t want the child. What is it about the child’s needs coming before the father’s wants do you not understand?? The reason people say men should be responsible is because the child needs to eat, have a roof over their head etc. Whether or not the father wants to contribute to supporting the child is irrelevant - the child needs to be supported and you were 50% responsible for bringing it in to the world. I don’t know how else to say it -…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/24 03:48 PM
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It’s not “discrimination” it’s discernment and preference. I’m a single mum and I date women. You are right, they do ghost when you tell them you’ve got kids. That’s because they’ve thought through what they are looking for. They know what they do and don’t want in their life and it’s entirely reasonable for them to select people who don’t have kids. It sucks as it massively narrows the dating pool for single parents, but I don’t blame them. Much more concerned about men walking in to relationsh…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/24 01:32 PM
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It’s all fine as long as you aren’t loudly announcing it and shaming people. I do think if you’ve never slept with a big woman you should give it a go. I always thought my preference was slim women until I hooked up with a big woman and now that’s my preference.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/24 05:21 PM
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I am aware that shame is a huge problem for people. For many people, regardless of gender, there is shame around sexual experiences. This often stems from religion, but I was never religious and still experienced a great deal of shame. I read a lot and engaged in therapy which has helped massively. What I did not do was ask anyone else to change their behaviour or make it anyone else’s responsibility (well maybe my therapist, but I pay her).
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/24 04:55 PM
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I don’t know. I’m autistic and a woman and I also find neuro”typicals” to be poor communicators, but that’s because they use the same words but speak a different language. They use language completely differently and it’s confusing. They don’t include context in the words. It’s weird. It actually really annoys me when Red Pill men conflate neurotypical behaviour as being stereotypical female behaviour. It really reminds me why so many Red Pill guys are the way they are. They are directing the an…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/24 04:54 AM
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The 50 year olds going for 20 year olds are probably attracted to the youngsters because they’ve got more emotional maturity than they do. Older men come with the obvious issue of less reliable D so young horny women might get frustrated.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/24 03:51 PM
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Maybe, but I can’t see when I’ll have the opportunity to meet people. I’m an autistic single mum with a special needs kid. I barely have time to attend my own medical appointments let alone date.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/24 03:16 PM
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Rarely do I agree with a red pill man but I definitely think separate bedrooms is the way to go. I’m not even sure I could live with another adult.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/24 04:39 PM
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Sorry to hear you were bullied, it’s a very painful but also common experience. Children are so cruel sometimes. You are saying the damage is “irreversible” - this belief is what’s responsible for ruining every aspect of your life. Not the bullying it’s.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/24 04:48 PM
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What if you don’t want to sleep with her? Like she’s not attractive to you? Are you okay with being “one of the girls” in that situation? I feel like by doing this you are losing your opportunity to become attractive to any of the (many) women who only feel sexual attraction once they get to know someone. If you start off with putting sexual innuendos in there you’ll put off soooo many women you won’t get past the first few innuendos with most. If you do it at work you might get fired for sexual…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/24 02:47 PM
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Yeah it does somehow stimulate the back of the clitoris (which is much bigger than the little bit protruding on the outside). If it were never pleasurable for women then why do I have a 3 pronged vibrator in my closet? This said - I think anyone who pressures anyone else in to it when they say no is trash.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/24 06:25 PM
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That’s sad.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/23 07:12 PM
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You…. You realise there are women who are not pregnant or recently pregnant right?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/23 06:54 PM
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Where did you get those statistics?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/23 04:17 PM
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You need to cite the source for that statistic please.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/23 04:12 PM
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If you are looking at couples and always think the man is better looking than the woman, is it just that you find men more attractive? I don’t mean that in an offensive way, it’s just that as a lesbian when I look at heterosexual couples I always think the woman is better looking.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/23 03:54 PM
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People who like to rate looks will give the same people different ratings. It’s not like there’s some sort of internationally approved rating system. It seems like the men who think women’s standards are “too high” are the same men who think certain abusive behaviours are acceptable. The problem is a fundamental devaluing of women on their part. This devaluing isn’t universal - there are plenty of men who recognise that women are equal and deserve to be treated with respect. If you are one of th…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/23 03:50 PM
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Yes
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/23 12:23 PM
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Have you tried searching the words I gave? It’s easy to find. Just put those words in search bar and click on the results that are all subreddits.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/23 12:16 PM
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Neither
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/23 11:57 AM
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I can’t say because of rules on this sub about not promoting other subs. Sorry. Good thing I double checked before I told you! It’s got the words “pill debate” in it though so maybe have a rummage and you’ll come across it.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/23 11:33 AM
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This is nothing compared to another similar sub which seems to be the graveyard for those kicked out of this sub.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/23 10:59 AM
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I think these men are getting to know the women as people rather than focusing on their sexual justify.Not everyone is so bothered about sexual history.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/23 09:38 AM
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Just say you have a crush on Ryan Gosling, you don’t have to insult women in the process. All these ratings a subjective depending on people’s preferences
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/23 12:02 PM
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If that’s the case why are there so many posts about age gap relationships on this sub?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/23 04:19 PM
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You don’t blame deadbeat fathers because redpill/blackpill blame women for everything. You have no idea how people come to be parents. I’m tempted to share my story but I know that even though my ex was very much in the wrong the boys on this sub will find a way to pick my situation apart and blame me. However I do think some things need to be added to sex education to help protect people against this sort of thing. 1) never believe a man who says he is infertile. 2) if you don’t want a kid use …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/23 03:32 PM
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Dude I’m 36. I also work in mental health and have done multiple courses on domestic violence. I’m going to ask you again: what makes someone deserving or not deserving? Physical attractiveness is one element or attraction. It’s a big part of it, but in my experience it becomes less important as people get older.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/23 12:50 PM
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This opinion cannot coexist with the opinion that people go for “bad boys”. Literally the reason people stay with bad men is because they think they don’t deserve better. I’m curious what you think makes a woman “deserving” and what is she “deserving” of exactly?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/23 12:22 PM
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The “creep” thing, for me, is that autistic men are very bad at hiding their attraction/enthusiasm/hope/expectation. They also often don’t respect boundaries (don’t @ me, I’m autistic myself, I’m pretty direct). But honestly we just need to put neurotypicals in their place imo!!! They will hate it. Because equality feels like oppression to majority groups. But neurotypical who negatively judges autistic people - even if they don’t know it’s autism and just think the person is rude or whatever - …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/23 02:00 PM
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20% are employed in my country
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/23 01:56 PM
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Re-read my comment. I said “will”, not “have”. Your sperm has already started to decline though.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/23 03:44 PM
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You mean they’re adults now?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/23 03:09 PM
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They also forget that their dick will stop working properly and scheduling sex to coincide with when your viagra kicks in isn’t really sexy.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/23 03:05 PM
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Do you really think women say that because of a “just world fallacy”? They don’t. They say it for all the reasons you listed about people who rejected you for playing childish abusive games. The ones who stick around (if they do? Wasn’t clear on that) find your abusive behaviour familiar because they’ve been victims of abuse in the past and people tend to move towards familiarity. But generally, if you have to resort to shitty abusive tactics in order to get a woman to sleep with you then you’ve…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/23 01:15 PM
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All autistic people are unlikeable to non-autistics (allistics). Unfortunately this has been scientifically proven. However, in those studies the the autistic people did not dislike autistics. My experience as an autistic woman is the issue with autistic guys (apart from the fact they’re men and I’m gay) is the eagerness. Now, because no -autistics don’t have empathy for autistics I’m not sure if they would be able to pick this up. Every time I mix with autistic cis het men at minimum one has a …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/23 11:51 AM
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Lol because it’s not worked out on total orgasms, it’s the percentage per sexual encounter. Why don’t you work out the total of sexual encounters WITHOUT orgasm for each group? Your figures suggest to me that heterosexual women are having a lot more unenjoyable sex than lesbians. Probably to shut them up with their moaning. Certainly was the case for me and a lot of my het friends. When I was in a heterosexual relationship I believed I wasn’t capable of climaxing in the presence of another perso…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/23 01:28 PM
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They absolutely do. They do the love bombing to make women “fall in love” with them and put them on a pedestal. If they don’t do this then the woman will leave them as soon as they start acting like a jackass. If they have this history of a few weeks where everything is wonderful, they think there’s a chance they can go back to that.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/23 10:48 AM
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Nobody is saying parents don’t play a role in socialisation. We are talking specifically about dating advice. What’s next? Gonna get your mum to teach you how to eat a woman out?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/23 03:58 PM
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What are you in about? I said nothing about a 6”5 man. I told you clearly it is not cool to take social advice from your parents. You can take that advice or leave it. It doesn’t bother me. To be attempting to debate this is silly. I honestly think it’s more a case of opposing whatever the “blue” pill are saying just for the sake of it, without any actual thought. If you didn’t realise that none of the cool kids took dating advice from their mother and grandma, maybe just own up to your social f…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/23 02:05 PM
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Dude technology is not part of biology therefore according to your theory it is irrelevant to dating. If you want to get dating advice from your mother, go for it. But I can assure you that’s not where Chad got his game from. You are now saying that an enmeshed relationship with your mother is a positive thing? It helps you get women? Give me strength.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/23 02:03 PM
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When one of them who is already well known for being a creep comes and grabs your face then kisses you on the lips that would be sexual assault. Don’t forget to get photographic proof of them grabbing their crotch shortly beforehand. Customary air kisses on the cheek are unpleasant I agree. However they are not sexually motivated. They are are a social greeting used in many societies. People who use this greeting seem to do it with any gender. They are clearly doing it because it is a polite gre…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/23 12:57 PM
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It’s not solely based on biological factors.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/23 10:30 AM
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Biology is one aspect of it. You cannot control your biology but you can control your social skills and how you come across. This is what’s important in finding a date. Asking an older person you will get advice suitable for a time when culture & trends were very different. If you are still not convinced maybe watch the show on TLC called “I Love a Momma’s Boy”.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/23 10:29 AM
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It’s not a personal thing…. It’s a common sense thing to not ask older generations for current social advice.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/23 09:36 PM
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The real solution is to address the way autistics are treated in our society. I can tell you first hand that an autistic person trying to survive in a neurotypical social landscape is traumatising. A lot of that trauma is caused by very limited socially acceptable behaviour. On the whole autistic people are dislikable to NTs (not an opinion, a proven fact). What’s worst, they also bond over disliking us. Not based on our diagnosis, based on the “uncanny valley” thing. These subs are so sad to me…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/23 08:58 PM
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And whilst they’re there… they can ask dating advice. Look… just don’t ask your mum for dating advice. It won’t help you get a girlfriend.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/23 08:53 PM
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Your parents fulfil the socialisation by putting you in groups with your peers… not being your mates.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/23 08:47 PM
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I definitely think that plays in to it. But I also think there’s something autistic in this. Autistics need a social guide if they are to survive in the neurotypical world. I got mine from my sisters, I don’t have a mum. They had to explain some very simple “obvious” things to me. I think neurotypical boys are going to understand that their mum is not the person to get dating advice from. They will ask their brother or friends. Someone in their generation because your parents generation are inhe…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/23 08:02 PM
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I wish them luck on the dating scene then. Because they are going to look and come across as incredibly uncool. Please don’t do it. Ask Chad!
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/23 07:35 PM
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Very different. You are describing neglect. That is very different to giving advice about dating…..to someone from an entirely different generation. Things change. You need to get your advice on social stuff from people of your generation. Siblings, friends. Same with fashion advice. Don’t get advice from your mum! Get it from friends.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/23 07:32 PM
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It’s also weird. I can’t imagine how utterly cringe it would be to take such advice from my dad. I don’t even want him to know I even know about sex tbh. I seriously think the reason this comes up so much on this sub is that men who go down red pill route are more likely to have had unhealthy boundaries with their mother.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/23 07:24 PM
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Humans evolved in groups. How do you not know this?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/23 07:18 PM
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Pretty sure evolution requires existence of more than one family - therefore it’s natural to ask your peers for advice. Also older siblings.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/23 07:16 PM
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Because they have a sense of ownership over her. They don’t necessarily want to stay with her long term, but she they don’t want her to sleep with other men. Not all bad boys are like this. I was with one prior who didn’t do this, but I was really young, when he was nasty to me I just assumed he was right because I had really low self-esteem. So like he wouldn’t let me arrive at group social events together because I was “embarrassing”. Well my sister always found me embarrassing so I just assum…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/23 06:06 PM
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Also to stop them leaving him.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/23 05:59 PM
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Because it limits their desirability to other men, it limits their freedom, it makes them easier to control, it means they can never truly be free of them. Also - this isn’t necessarily an intentional baby trap - but because it feels better without a condom.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/23 05:57 PM
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Yes because they don’t necessarily have the intention of staying with them. Lots of women get baby trapped. They just want to make the woman dependent on them, easier to control, undesirable to other men etc Doesn’t mean they make good fathers. In my case it was a gold digging exercises. Which backfired because the person with all the money (my dad) kicked me out for being pregnant out of wedlock.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/23 05:54 PM
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I (a woman) used to vulnerable a LOT… but people don’t just act negatively to men being vulnerable, they do with women too. I stopped doing it over text, I literally cannot control it in person, but I stopped online and over text. At least with people whose response I care about. Reason being twofold, one that people don’t reply or often only reply with solutions. The lack of reply is hurtful. The solutions are not what I need. I need to be heard. I also find that women who are afraid to be vuln…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/23 05:45 PM
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“Bad boys” do a lot of manipulation and start with love bombing, then when challenged they’re usually pretty skilful at gaslighting their way out of the situation. They do this until they’ve baby trapped her / married her / made her dependant on them (like making her move far away from her family). I also think people confuse “gut instinct” for “butterflies”. I know I did. I grew up hearing about people getting butterflies in their tummy, so the weird feeling I had in my tummy I thought was that…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/23 04:40 PM
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PSA TO MEN OF PPD: don’t take dating advice from your mum, let alone grandma! There are so many men that love a desperate woman who will change herself for him…. Those men are more likely narcissists. Similar goes for women. Most women get creeped out by desperation, those who don’t and like being chased are more likely narcissists. Not only that, a man who would otherwise be attractive to a woman can easily put her off by being desperate.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/23 04:13 PM
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If you think your mum is the best person to give you dating advice then honestly you’re probably just resentful of her due to the poor boundaries between you. You ask friends and siblings for dating advice. If you are asking your mum - you’re too close. Lots of boys also blame their mums for not “keeping” their dad happy, or leaving him or whatever.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/23 02:51 PM
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Very strange because I’m 36 and socialised mostly with women but I’ve only once heard someone say they “would be a 10” if they got a boob job. Who are these women? Honestly this is just a cope for the fact that a lot of women want to be treated with respect. Men on here love to say women are “arrogant”, think too highly of themselves, based on stupid things like looks and N count… but in reality the standards the women have are around emotional IQ, attitudes towards women that kind of thing. For…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/23 05:16 PM
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Thank you for the recommendation I’ll take a look this evening.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/23 04:43 PM
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Prague is nice to visit. Italy is great for food but not for women! Luckily those countries don’t have as big an influence or population as US does. Honestly I think a huge issue in US is propaganda and people believing it. Like US often don’t understand the terms socialism & communism, they will use them interchangeably and use them to refer to anything that isn’t right wing & very individualistic / “every man for himself” type attitude. Anything that diverges from that is twisted to be a threa…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/23 11:11 AM
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You clearly haven’t seen my brothers in law. One of them only has one eye. Two of them are overweight. Two of them are short. Or my friend’s parter. He has both a girlfriend (my friend) and a wife. He has gross long straggly greying hair with a long grey straggly beard. His hair is greasy. He’s scrawny. We aren’t seeing these people just walking around in public, they are our family, friends, colleagues etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/23 08:40 AM
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Even your Democrat party is still pretty right wing though. And government assistance is very limited, huge disparity in medical care dependent on wages, got the guns and if PPD is to be believed pretty outdated gender roles when it comes to dating. All sorts that’s quite shocking to Europeans. Not sure if you’ve been to Europe?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/23 04:36 PM
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I don’t necessarily think it makes them dangerous etc. I’m not keen on people who are very dominant and focused on power in general. Not nice personality traits, tend to be selfish. I feel like it legitimises and glorifies crime and things that have traumatised others. Ultimately they just get more and more extreme. I have an (ex)friend who is heavily involved in and works as a femme dom. She is dominant and sadistic in non sexual areas of life too. And histrionic. She treats waiting staff like …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/23 11:55 AM
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Just assume women have a history of trauma & respect their boundaries. It’s not hard.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/23 11:36 AM
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Why do you keep bringing up trauma?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/23 11:30 AM
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That’s a lot of questions!! I’m pretty sexually liberated but the age play and violent stuff bothers me a lot.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/23 11:29 AM
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Dude nobody is asking you to “predict” trauma. You can assume a LOT of women you speak to have it. Also, respect her when she says NO. The only women who will be attracted to hour unboundaried “simping” on them will be narcissists who love the attention. They’ll then treat you like shit. Good luck with that!
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/23 11:27 AM
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Sounds like you live somewhere similar to where I live. I could never live in America with their ancient attitudes.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/23 11:24 AM
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I am not giving any man a “chance” because I don’t fuck men. You say you don’t mean following a woman… but are you sure? Or do you get so enthusiastic and puppy like that because she wasn’t rude to you you try to maximise your chances by talking to her every time you see her? If you are talking and she’s walking you are following. It’s disgusting desperate behaviour. Observing someone’s boundary is not taking responsibility for their trauma.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/23 11:19 AM
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“I’m harming nobody”… that’s not true. You are actively scaring women. Do you care? This happened to me recently and ruined the holiday. In fact it was two men at that place. One already had a wife AND a girlfriend (they were poly). Just because a friend of yours with internalised misogyny and presumably no history of sexual trauma, suggested you keep trying and it’s romantic, doesn’t mean others see it that way. That’s why there are laws against stalking and harassment. After my recent experien…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/23 10:58 AM
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Rolling my eyes is what I’m doing with that information. Low N count woman will probably be less likely to experiment with you and have a lower sex drive. So if someone chooses a low N count woman, don’t complain she’s sexually repressed and won’t let you do anal.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/23 09:46 AM
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Give me a break. A lot of those extremely religious marriages are either arranged or have minimal courting. A lot of the people in them are gay. I am seriously concerned that there are people old enough to talk about sex who believe this kind of right wing propaganda.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/23 05:00 PM
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Yeah sure, “submitting” to your husband every time he wants to bone you because God said so sounds like a blast!
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/23 04:47 PM
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Because you have things in common with them. I’m more comfortable making friends with people from the same community as me, even if I’m not physically attracted. So it’s certainly got nothing to do with status ….. literally just the simple reality of shared experiences and having stuff to talk about. No evolutionary pseudoscience explanations needed.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/23 02:27 PM
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You can’t make it make sense. They want a woman who will have no sex drive prior to marriage, then fuck them whenever they want once married. It’s all bs. They’re just so insecure they’re worried they can live up to past partner’s standards.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/23 02:16 PM
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Higher chance of a sexless marriage too
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/23 02:15 PM
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So some women should just supposed to sit around waiting. I mean… if their sex drives are so low that they’re happy to wait for you then don’t complain if they never want to fuck you once your married.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/23 02:11 PM
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Wtf? No! I’ll tell you what your problem is. Desperation. Your desperation for “swee…” I can’t even type it. Your desperation for sex seems incredibly off-putting.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/23 08:59 AM
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You realise there is a huge array of different brains out there? Not everyone has the same opinion of you. Each individual has their own opinion, OP is asking what is your opinion about yourself. You as an individual. Do you like your sense of humour? Any physical traits? You really seem to be struggling to separate other’s opinions from your own internal sense of self.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/23 04:37 PM
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FML…. Sexual assault is not the same as “gold digging”. Are you serious? Also the smallest misbehaviour from men is not shamed to oblivion… it’s frequently excused, women are not believed, it’s been pervasive over decades.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/23 03:22 PM
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Because in the view of some men women can’t do anything right. You can’t be a single mum but also can’t be child free. You should choose better men rather than end up in an abusive relationship… but if you react to red flags and get out the relationship you either have your standards too high or you aren’t giving the relationship a chance.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/23 12:40 PM
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You need to be more specific about what you consider high standards. No I don’t think they think that by laying out what they want men will change their mind, I think they are just hoping to filter out the ones who possess deal breakers. Why do older women have deal breakers? They’ve learned from experience. They had lower standards and compromised on things but it didn’t work out. Time has a lot to do with it. Older women have more responsibilities and therefore less time to waste on dating los…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/23 12:08 PM
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Nowadays I say I’m not interested in men. When I did used to date men I just politely said “I’m not interested but thank you”. Now that is the first rejection. Unfortunately many of them don’t accept the first and if it is someone who has means to see/approach again they will keep trying. I’m still polite with second and third rejection but without the “thank you”and usually with an excuse to move away from. Obviously at this point I’m actively avoiding them. If they still manage to find me and …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/23 10:45 AM
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I think they key here is walking outside. Lots of Red Pillers don’t. So they just believe what their YT algorithm tells them. If they do go outside their cognitive bias distorts what they see.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/23 09:32 AM
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People definitely go to get laid.. I find that I often get chatting to people in the queue for the toilet. Otherwise it starts with dancing together before talking. Can’t hear anyone anyway. Dance, makeout, if it gets hot and heavy exchange names, check their age, ask them how far away they live or say where you live. Get Uber home. Have mediocre drunk sex. Then either go on a date afterwards or just slip out in the morning and say you have somewhere to be.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/23 02:21 PM
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