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For these ultra loser type guys they have exactly two options; improve or die.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/22 01:07 AM
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I'm white so I definitely have incentive. But I would agree for sure that this applies to men who share the same culture as the state they're fighting for. I would not feel incentivized to protect the west if I wasn't white because western civilization is the hegemony of "my people"
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/22 07:55 AM
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Yes. That is the fundamental role of men in organized post paleolithic societies, across all cultures and all points in time.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/22 07:39 AM
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It's not sexist at all just pure biology. No different than saying men fight and die in all wars through all of human history. Men have a natural inclination towards violence and aggression that women lack.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/22 06:15 AM
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Because that's the exact kind of subpar demographic of men who try to shoot their shot with women who post bikini pictures on instagram
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/22 06:13 AM
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I would suggest you think real hard about the person you're choosing to marry BEFORE you marry them. Everyone who ends up in a dead bedroom has it happen because somewhere down the line either them or their partner fucked up. Dead bedrooms aren't healthy or normal, the key is communicating with your spouse to identify the root issues- not seek out a divorce because you're a whiney bitch and things don't go your way all the time. The only acceptable reasons for divorce are infidelity and actual l…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/22 01:30 PM
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Yeah because society will cease to function if people stop reproducing, or even if you have as many seniors retired as you have young people working. It's absolutely critical that we reproduce at a sustainable rate.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/22 01:26 PM
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No fault divorce should be illegal. Marriage is a very serious institution and if you're not prepared or mature enough to make a truly lifelong commitment to your partner, your eventual children, and the institution itself then you probably should not get married.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/22 12:44 PM
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Because men are increasingly seeing that the current social order isn't sustainable or desirable, far too few people are starting families and having children. While on the other hand women are drifting further left because "fuck you I've got mine"
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/22 12:37 PM
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Therapy is total bullshit man and so are most of the pills they push on people these days, the hard reality is none of that shit can solve your problems. Only you can solve your problems. Why not adopt some risk in your life? Clearly you have no trouble getting women so take it a step further and actually humanize them, build a real relationship and watch the dividends that it pays out. You will never fix yourself boning 3 different random chicks a week, it will eat at your soul.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/22 09:02 AM
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Yeah, treating women like fuckmeat or flavors of the week doesn't lead to long term happiness, who could've imagined. Finding one beautiful woman who submits to you, loves you, feels safe around you, and wants to bear your children- that leads to the deep sense of fulfillment that all men crave. Marriage, family, and a household that endures long after your children bury your bones is what you need.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/22 08:46 AM
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Literally 95%+ of -all- abortions occur simply because the woman doesn't feel like having a baby
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/22 08:28 AM
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Why are you talking about miscarriages when I'm talking about abortion? Do you believe a majority or even a plurality of abortions are occurring because of health concerns necessitating immediate and serious medical intervention? The overwhelming majority of abortions are occurring because the woman doesn't feel like having a baby, and that's fucking vile.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/22 07:30 AM
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It's good to demonstrate that you have emotional intelligence by listening to your woman and letting her vent to you but that's not a two way street, it's best to never cry in front of a woman you care about and, if you can help it, never show weakness. If you can do that your woman will feel safe and stable around you, the strength of those instinctual feelings forges lifelong partnerships. The dilemma for men is that our core identity requires validation from women, there -has- to be a good wo…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/22 07:23 AM
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Pregnancy is the biological consequence of sex, killing your baby and pretending it ain't so is a pretty big cope
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/22 07:15 AM
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Breast milk tastes great, it's very sweet. It's also ethically sourced from the best place in the world- your woman's breasts
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/22 07:13 AM
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Im a man with a body count of 1 and she's my wife, but she's hot af and way out of my league and the state of society does piss me off
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/22 06:51 AM
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It's good to hold an inherent distrust of women who are very online. They tend to be overly opinionated, mentally ill, and skew hard to the political left. I would take anything reddit chicks say with a very tiny grain of salt.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/22 11:52 PM
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Porn is basically for easily manipulated retards.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/22 11:50 PM
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In short, women don't like pussies. Even white knight pussies.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/22 05:15 AM
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My wife cooks all of the food we eat just like women are supposed to do
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/22 05:13 AM
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If a man you're seeing is making you move furniture and heavy shit around then he's a lazy sleaze and you shouldn't hesitate to let him know that.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/22 05:13 AM
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All of the women who do stuff like this sound like complete fucking lunatics
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/22 05:10 AM
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Letting risk aversion guide every major decision you make in your life is just cowardice.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/22 04:03 AM
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Being retarded in any noticeable way will be a turnoff in dating, even more so if you're a man.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/22 03:57 AM
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Condoms suck but hormonal birth control is awful for women, abortion is abhorrent, and I've got as many kids as I can reasonably pay for. Sex is definitely better without them but it's not as bad as a lot of dudes make it out to be.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/22 07:48 PM
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Shut the fuck up, keep your head down, and work harder.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/22 07:40 PM
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There is a reasonable amount of "dating down" imo, it's not so much about age as it is mentality, income, femininity, beauty, and willingness to submit. My wife is the same age as me and we're in a very traditionalist marriage. Guys who chase women young enough to be their daughter are predators, plain and simple. Whatever logic they use to masquerade their intentions is just BS, but there is a healthy middle ground.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/22 05:20 PM
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Based. Genetic dead ends are seething
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/22 05:12 PM
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The biological influences the cultural and vice versa, the really notable thing about male propensity for violence is its prevalence across -all- societies and cultures throughout all points in time, it's not a phenomenon limited to people who saw Will Smith slap Chris Rock. Some buff barbarian dudes were burning Rome to the ground 1500 years ago. War between men has been constant and unending since the dawn of our species. I don't think that's any reason to look for a flimsy beta male type, the…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/22 07:29 AM
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Never cry in front of a woman, fatal mistake.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/22 07:20 AM
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I think they do it because they know it makes them look cute, a secondary consequence of looking cute is attracting men. Same reasoning with makeup.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/22 07:18 AM
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I really don't think it has anything to do with women being told to "suppress their anger" lol, women are orders of magnitude less violent than men across all cultures and societies throughout all of human history. This is more rooted in biology than socialization, the average man has 10x the amount of testosterone as the average woman and IMO that hormone profile has the most profound impact on someone's predisposition to violence and aggression. Nearly all serial killers are men, nearly all ga…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/22 07:14 AM
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It's one of those things where it almost never happens but the day it does happen your man could save your life, provided he is strong and courageous.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/22 07:03 AM
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No you're completely right, firearms in particular are decisive weapons. While I've shown my wife how to shoot she lacks the aggressive mentality and training hours needed to do it well. I average probably 5000 rounds a year down range, I feel very comfortable with a firearm. Regardless of whether the situation called for fists, a rock, a sharpened stick, a knife, or a firearm, I would be the one protecting my family. I think that's true for the near absolute majority of families. There is a men…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/22 07:00 AM
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Who is going to protect me? Who will protect my family? I am the biggest and strongest individual in my household, I'm the only one who can protect what is mine. I don't think real life corroborates everything you're saying, men and women don't generally play halves, men are protectors and women want to be protected because they're significantly weaker and more vulnerable. Romance is important for a healthy relationship but a division of labour and roles correlates strongly to the natural condit…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/22 05:50 AM
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Oh absolutely man there's no fucking way things could have ended up better for me. She's the mother of my children now, she quit her job to stay home, she cleans, she cooks for me, she's beautiful, she's amazing in bed, and she's submissive in our marriage. My soul feels at ease when I'm around my woman, there's nothing else like it. I think all guys should have it as good as me.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/22 02:54 AM
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Just in the most shallow terms of physical attractiveness she's a strong 8, I would rate myself around a 6. Most of my friends didn't believe me when I told them I was dating her, I'm not a bad looking guy but definitely average while people would place her firmly above average. I clear around 70k a year, I was making minimum wage when we first started dating though lol. I guess I won her over by being old fashioned, I asked her to dinner on valentines day and gave her roses on our first date. W…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/22 02:42 AM
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None of that actually matters so much except being athletic and in shape, what a man does is what determines his true value. Men are creatures of action, those actions have shaped the course of world history. Plastic surgery will never turn you into a man, but trying as hard as you fucking can might.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/22 12:54 AM
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Real romance is love through action, not some wishy washy Hollywood fairytale bullshit but committing actions that demonstrate your love regularly. For men I think you must do it all, provide financial security, physical security, and be hopelessly romantic with your woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/22 12:46 AM
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Traditional masculinity is the answer. IMO there is no other way for men to rightfully live.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/22 12:43 AM
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If our society was actually structured in a "survival of the fittest" manner women would have zero political power or rights because they would be incapable of independently securing those rights with force. I'd be cautious of what you advocate for.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/22 12:40 AM
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For men and women both, you can't seriously look at the state of dating today (especially among gen z) and tell me what we have now is a functioning workable system. Dating and relationships today are insane, the vast majority of my peers, who are normal average guys, enjoy very little success with women. Even the buddies I have who are in relationships hate their lives, a friend of mine is engaged 3 years with his woman and they still fight over "who's turn it is" to vacuum. Those sorts of chil…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/22 04:31 AM
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Yeah it is pretty great man, she cooks 2-3 times a day every single day. She does laundry and handles the domestic woman duties like cleaning. She also takes great care of our children and loves them dearly. She also takes care of herself, she's a smokeshow and we have amazing sex. In return I provide her with leadership and a life of stability and security. I bought our house, I pay all of the bills, I provide for and protect my family. Our relationship dynamic follows the successful framework …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/22 04:17 AM
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Literally an unlimited amount. Money can solve a limited number of material problems and nothing else, a good beautiful woman who submits to you is priceless. My wife improves every aspect of my life, I get to come home to a cooked meal every night, she even packs my lunch for work.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/22 02:21 AM
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What you're looking for basically doesn't exist. The "killer instinct" you're describing is pretty well male nature. Men possess a natural inclination towards decisiveness, aggression, and violence, while women possess a natural aversion to those things. Guns level the playing field in terms of technical capability yet there are still next to zero female gunfighters in conflict zones, this is because women lack the aggression and mental wiring necessary to be proficient warriors, much more often…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/22 02:10 AM
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Nah I think I just won the lottery of life
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/22 08:29 AM
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I woke up to my wife in lingerie cooking me a big fancy breakfast and wanting sex, completely out of nowhere. 7 years in, seriously marriage is the best.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/22 07:18 AM
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Idk man I feel like there's a lot of redditors who embody the fat neckbeard stereotype and think the rise of transhumanism is both imminent and will "save" them. It seems like a massive cope. The global economy is shitting itself, western society is hyper polarized, China is preparing for expansion and war before their own demographic crisis peaks, and the climate is under extreme stress to the point that some 2100 predictions look apocalyptic. I don't think the place we're headed is pretty, but…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/22 05:31 AM
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The issue is "women's parity" is artificially propped up by the circumstances of postmodern ultra consumerist society, it's not upheld by the laws of nature. All power is derived from the capacity to make war or inflict violence, all the way down to individual police officers enforcing the laws of the state. The reason the contemporary status quo doesn't work for millions of men is because it's essentially a grand social experiment with no historical precedent. You can hope all you want man but …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/22 05:13 AM
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Moreover I think your biggest problems are going to come from the new male underclass, that is men who live their lives without ever finding a woman or having children, I think those men will become increasingly insular and violent as we've already seen unfold in real time. The unfortunate reality is that the current trajectory does not lend itself to long term stability, there is no social harmony or balance in gender relations today. Patriarchy in its classical form offers stability and social…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/22 04:59 AM
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I don't think cultural suicide is an acceptable remedy to demographic collapse.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/22 04:54 AM
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This is a really good argument for why having women in the work force en masse is unsustainable for society in the long term. It will likely lead to war, even if you can permanently subdue the huge swathes of the new male underclass you'll still be faced with total demographic collapse, as women become more career oriented they become less and less likely to ever have children. Japan is going through this demographic crisis now and the western world isn't far behind.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/22 03:46 AM
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I think over the long term that relationship dynamic just breeds extreme resentment between the man and woman. Even the most bluepilled bugmen will start to feel shame that they do not protect or provide as they are biologically hardwired to do, and the woman will feel more and more that the guy is a leech, and feels more like having another child than a husband. I know a guy who lived exactly like this, he was a "stay at home dad" while his wife was a practicing family physician. She had a shor…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/22 03:36 AM
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My grandfather asked my grandmother on her death bed if she would mind if he got remarried, he got remarried like 3 months after she died and my grandparents were married for their entire lives. It's the strangest fucking thing and I haven't spoken a word to him in years.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/22 03:29 AM
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I would say it's probably the same reason more men abandon their children, it's pathetic and inexcusable though. I think the duty of married men is to serve their wives until they die, regardless of circumstances.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/22 03:25 AM
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Maybe on tiktok but if you go meet women in real life I think bald guys can swing it by being athletic, well groomed, charismatic, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/22 03:20 AM
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Funny enough I was a virgin before I was with my wife, I've never been with another woman in my entire life and I'd say we have an amazing sex life. A lot of men just don't understand how communication and emotion factors into intimacy for women. I have friends who think foreplay is stupid, or that just regularly complimenting your woman and making her feel beautiful is unnecessary. A lot of guys are just out of touch and watch way too much porn to have a healthy relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/22 03:16 AM
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Yeah absolutely they should. Although really married men shouldn't have single female friends.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/22 03:11 AM
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I mean physical looks have a big impact on the mating prospects of women, I would argue to an even bigger extent than men because men contribute their social and biological value in ways other than looks (leadership, physical labor, violence and warfare, etc) whereas the most fundamental value of women is in their ability to birth children. But women are still human beings, they should still feel entitled to have a fulfilling marriage and family as part of the human life experience, regardless o…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/22 03:07 AM
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You're not crazy, it's just biology. I was married at 21 and I had my first kid at 22, it's the best stuff that's ever happened to me in my life, ironically I work harder and get less sleep than ever before but my life has a real tangible purpose. I love my wife and kids more than words could describe.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/22 08:41 AM
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Relationship breakdown occurs almost exclusively because of people being retards. Either they're not communicating, not resolving conflict correctly, or not putting the time in to foster love and intimacy. Some people are definitely too stupid for a relationship I don't doubt it, but way too many people are happy to throw the towel in at the slightest bump in the road. You don't need to bone 5 different guys to find the right kind of man.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/22 06:42 AM
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Why would you not be possessive over the most vital relationship in your life? This is modern society lying to you. So many people opt for indifference, apathy, and emotional distance with their partners and they grow apart. It is both natural and instinctive to guard the most important people in your life, especially women as they're much more vulnerable than men.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/22 06:38 AM
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Not only is it on men to change themselves, but it's on men to change the whole of society for the better. Just as it's been for all of human history. Modern man and modern women are both sick creatures, largely incapable of creating lasting relationships and harmonious families, especially in the west we are a deeply fractured civilization.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/22 06:29 AM
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Your options at that age are thinning quick. Most of the mature and desirable people are already married or in a committed relationship, a lot of people have a marriage and children at your age. Your outlook 5ish years from now will be even worse, you'll get waves of middle aged bitter divorced guys who all talk about how crazy their ex wife is.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/22 06:18 AM
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Just pick one person and commit to them, I know it's a truly radical concept for 2022 but you shouldn't need to bone 5 different dudes to find "the one" Either the connection is there or it isn't, while making someone wait is less bad than sleeping around it's best to just pick one guy and be decisive at the same time
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/22 06:12 AM
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In the near future Uber eats will deliver you crickets. Animal meat will only be for the upper classes and those who can hunt/grow/process it themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/22 05:40 AM
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The answer for these men is to take action. Restructure society and restore balance to gender relations. The alternative is for them to live out their days alone and fat eating crickets and jerking to porn until they are dead and forgotten.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/22 05:15 AM
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Don't allow yourself to be consumed by your insecurities, it's a dark path. If you're with the right woman you don't need to worry about any of this shit, the best thing to do is focus on being a good man and finding a good woman to marry.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/22 05:03 AM
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Women who aren't paired by their 30's are mostly going to be shitty options to begin with.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/22 05:01 AM
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Extreme social alienation caused by the digitalization of social interaction combined with existing in a consumerist postmodern western state with no coherent cultural fabric or national vision.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/22 04:58 AM
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Intelligence is a nice trait to have in your woman though, especially if she's going to be the mother of your children someday. Being attractive is important but it's not the be all end all. I would prefer to have an intelligent woman who voluntarily submits to me as the man of the house
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/22 04:47 AM
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PUAs are selling a false bill of goods, they're just promoting a gamified, manipulative, and shallow version of courting. The philosophy of "insert coin, get vagina" is fundamentally flawed, courting and relationships must be built on a deeper and more human basis.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/22 04:44 AM
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Defeatism and self destructive behavior will surely lead to a fulfilled and happy life
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/22 02:14 AM
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Oh in that case based
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/22 12:51 AM
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This but unironically
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/22 12:35 AM
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My house name goes back at least 300 years, it's a lot longer than just living and dying in one single generation. There's really no point in arguing semantics because you're dodging the main point. Build something greater than yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/22 12:02 AM
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Literally no women on earth like an awkward bumbling retard. Observe the behaviors and mannerisms of successful men then implement those into your own interactions with women. It will be life changing.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/22 11:54 PM
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If Andrew Tate isn't seeking marriage and children then he's selling men a fake bill of goods. Who the fuck cares about flashy cars and whores when you're old and grey? Eventually he will die like everyone else, he will have to reflect on everything he's built and done. Without a family you have nothing.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/22 11:48 PM
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The blood is there either way, so long as you have sons your house name will pass on indefinitely.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/22 11:41 PM
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Shaving is just porn culture sexualizing the shit out of youth in a really sus way. It has zero bearing on a woman's attractiveness IMO
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/22 11:38 PM
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The proper average man isn't overstaurated by a lifetime of trans fats, processed sugars, and 6+ hrs of video games a day. Our culture and society is fucking us in the ass hard. Unless you're bound to a chair young men especially should be athletic as fuck, like there's really no good reason most young men shouldn't be hanging around 15% body fat with a solid foundation of muscle mass. You should be able to run a couple miles without being winded, you should be able to lift heavy shit and you sh…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/22 11:33 PM
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I've found a fuckton of men have really low emotional intelligence, or at least a poor understanding of how women process emotions and communicate. A lot of men also objectify and sexualize the shit out of every woman they see because they watch too much porn and they've spent their lives surrounded by shitty billboard ads with half naked women on every street corner. Modern culture does not lend itself to positive gender relations in the slightest.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/22 11:29 PM
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This is horrible advice lol. Surround yourself with women and they'll probably think you're gay my dude
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/22 11:27 PM
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I'm working class from a working class background, I don't think economics played a huge role for me because when my wife and I started dating neither of us had much money. I make good money now and pay all the bills, as all men should be doing.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/22 11:25 PM
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A lot of people, men especially, don't realize that love is an active thing not passive. You build love by committing actions which demonstrate your love to your woman on a regular basis. The worst mistake men can make is taking their partner for granted, and not putting in a consistent effort to build active love.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/22 11:23 PM
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I got married at 21 and it was the best decision I've ever made in my life. You have no idea how long you have on this earth, don't wait to make the biggest impact you can have. A wife and eventually children is genetic permanence, it's biological imperative and it's the closest thing our species has to immortality. When you build a strong household it will endure long after you are dust and bones, this is the greatest personal project men can embark upon.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/22 11:20 PM
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Good post, postmodern ultra consumerism and hyper individualism killed chivalry. Western society is in the midst of committing suicide. Also C.S Lewis is based.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/22 10:16 PM
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I would bet the vast majority of guys in RP spaces are young gen z and millennial men who've spent their entire lives from birth existing in a society that not only shits on masculinity at every opportunity but completely disregards the need for roles and purpose in the subconscious of all men. Most of these guys have no idea who they even are because nobody has ever showed them. An entire generation of men raised without fathers and without a society that nurtures masculinity. The idols of youn…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/22 08:28 AM
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I would just tell my woman not to hangout or affiliate with women who glorify degenerate shit, if she doesn't listen to me then she was never really my woman to begin with and I can cut my losses. No man should have to sit through that kind of shit, the role of men in relationships is to lead from the front and build your household. Too many men take a backseat rather than dare to exert any authority over their women, they let their childish insecurities fester then they come and whine about it …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/22 07:02 AM
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The key to getting women is being good at being a man, it doesn't mean you need to mimic frat douchebags to get a woman. Athleticism, charisma, (controlled) aggression, initiative, and courage are things women like, lots of douchebags possess some or all of those traits, just understand what it is women actually look for in a mate at a biological level. Be a strong able man who possesses values and an actual belief system. I'm a very conservative "old fashioned" man and it's never felt like a ba…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/22 03:25 AM
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You really shouldn't let random women get to you, I mean personally if someone started recording me without reason I would take their phone and break it but outside of that don't let yourself be too emotionally malleable. There are tons of retards and assholes out there, pay them no heed.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/22 02:53 AM
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No fault divorce should be illegal. People need to think long and very hard about whether or not they want to commit to marriage, it is lifelong and there is no way to abdicate your duty once you accept it without being a lifelong coward.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/22 02:47 AM
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I definitely don't come home and rest, I sleep maybe 5 hours a night max. There's constantly shit that must be done when you have a wife and kids. Marriage is a good deal for men because it's the ultimate purpose men seek. Nietzsche said it best; “Man, the bravest of animals, and the one most accustomed to suffering, does not repudiate suffering as such; he desires it, he even seeks it out, provided he is shown a meaning for it, a purpose of suffering. The meaninglessness of suffering, not suffe…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/22 03:13 AM
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Marriage is a really good deal for men compared to the postmodern ultra consumerist status quo.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/22 01:18 AM
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They cannot in the long term. They can be cordial but they will not actually respect or revere a man that is in every way inferior to them.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/22 01:06 AM
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Wrath and pride, both are destructive and I think both are inherent to the nature of men. I'm a deeply flawed man but these flaws create the conditions for me to struggle against something, which in turn allows me to grow into a greater man.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/22 01:01 AM
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There's no need for equivalents to any of that because postmodern third wave feminism is the status quo of contemporary western society. Feminism and women's issues are literally as mainstream as it gets. The rise of the manosphere can be blamed mostly on society shifting from having a defined role and purpose for men to the total absence of a role.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/22 10:48 AM
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Do you not see the exponential growth occurring though? Like it's happening more and more, that's what's alarming. These guys squirrel away on forums all day and then shoot up a shopping mall because they've completely lost their shit. Society has no position for men, that's the fatal flaw.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/22 01:20 AM
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Yeah but seriously I've never seen a more miserable group of people than my generation's young men. I would say half of gen z is blackpill doomers with 15 different exotic mental illnesses. They're inheriting a fucked world where they'll probably own nothing, masculinity is vilified and men have no defining role in society.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/22 01:13 AM
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1997 gang. The state of my generation honestly terrifies me.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/22 01:04 AM
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Every single man on the department can, it was a requirement until they hired women that failed the test. It's still a requirement for the men. Keep in mind, these people are hired to do the same fucking job.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/22 01:02 AM
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I was a volunteer firefighter for 5 years and I'll tell you most woman firefighters are fucked. Our neighboring department hired women who could not firefighter carry casualties or do ladder throws because the town council ordered them to hire women. Our society has disregarded the hard biological differences between men and women so we can live in fantasy land. I don't believe it's sustainable.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/22 12:37 AM
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I'm a married gen z man with kids and I would guess very low. Only one other man in my extended peer group is married with children. Most men I know my age are single and still living with their parents.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/22 12:32 AM
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Neither men nor women are the cancer, modern society is the cancer.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/22 12:30 AM
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Liberated seems like an arbitrary catchall, what is it now 96% of all monkeypox transmission has occurred among gay men? Primarily because they have so many random sexual partners. Having literally zero restraint or control over your behavior isn't liberation its just behaving like an animal. It's like saying shitting on the ground in public is more liberating than shitting in the toilet. Morality and philosophy are complex and nuanced, obviously, but so many lefties define their "moral code" in…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/22 12:24 AM
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Maybe like billionaire playboy music video stereotype dudes but this definitely isn't accurate for regular men. I consider myself mildly successful relative to the vast majority of men my age. I make decent money, I own a house, and I pay all the bills/my wife stays home with our kids. I have absolutely no interest in having more than one wife, I wouldn't want my wife to have more than one husband so why shouldn't I reciprocate that exclusivity?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/22 12:07 AM
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My wife and I have had a rule since the beginning of our relationship that we don't go to bars without each other just as a matter of mutual respect. We haven't been to a bar in probably 3+ years anyway, drinking is lame.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/22 12:00 AM
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Sure but I know tons of women who have it and they definitely aren't unattainable, most are average and some even below average. Personally I would rather fixate on what I can attain, I find it much more gratifying than pixels on a screen that you can't touch, feel, or form any kind of intimate bond with. Men weren't evolved to consume OF/porn, it's sort of poison for us. Our monkey brains think we're having sex with women when we watch porn, so you get a huge rush, it's both easily accessible a…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/22 07:25 AM
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I would assume for gay guys in particular it's just about taking their indulgences to the furthest extremes and constantly chasing that dopamine high, not unlike straight porn addicts. Very few gay guys possess much spiritual sense or core moral-philosophical framework so they're probably less bothered by doing all of this stuff and just consider it normal behavior.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/22 07:18 AM
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Idk I'm a guy and fat people are pretty disgusting to me. I don't mean it personally against anyone I just find existing in a culture which promotes taking every indulgence to its furthest extreme is revolting. There are so goddamn many fat people it's unreal.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/22 07:14 AM
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And to your last question, men aren't bringing much to the table because masculinity has been vilified in the popular medium and men have been stripped of their traditional roles while being offered no alternative. That's why the trajectory we're on isn't sustainable, you can't just strip half the population of their ancient purpose in organized societies and not expect violent backlash.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/22 07:10 AM
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In terms of innate biology a woman's beauty will always be more valuable than whatever dollar amount is in her bank account. This is true to such an extent that a beautiful young woman with absolutely no money is almost certainly more valuable to society than a very wealthy old woman past childbearing age. Perceptions will differ hugely between men and women on this, but to men as a demographic comprising 50% of humanity, beauty is by far the most important characteristic for a woman to possess.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/22 07:07 AM
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Maybe? Idk because it's an impossible hypothetical. I would assume if men could get laid with women as easily as gay guys get laid then nobody would be using OF and the like because you could be banging 5 different chicks a week. Maybe OF subscribers would comprise a smaller subset of the fattest least desirable loser men
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/22 06:58 AM
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I was more talking strictly in heterosexual dynamics as that's what applies to 98%~ of the population. With homosexual men it's kind of a whole different ballgame, and not in a good way. The choosey and reserved nature of women is actually a helpful counterbalance for the overtly sexual and sometimes aggressive nature of men, with homosexuality this balance is totally lost. You get bathhouses full of gay guys having group sex giving each other monkeypox because they have such an insane number of…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/22 06:51 AM
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My wife and I started dating when we were 18, we're 25 now and I definitely wouldn't prefer someone younger than her under any circumstance. More than anything I value my wife's companionship, she's smoking hot now but I understand how life works, we're going to grow old and grey eventually. You only have so many days to live on earth then you die for eternity, to me my wife's companionship and the memories we've already made are some of the warmest things of my life.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/22 06:43 AM
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Yeah it depends on the individual woman, I'd say there's a fair amount of overlap between IG whores and OF whores, a lot of them use both platforms. But you're definitely right, some chicks prefer to just stick to softcore insta hoe posting and get their validation that way, but it's all the same in principle. Why do you think literally millions of women are hopping on OF to roleplay as sex workers? Half of the women I went to school with have an OF publicly affiliated with their social media. I…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/22 06:24 AM
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It's not a way to make a living for most women but rather an ego booster knowing that's there's always at least a few dozen dumbfuck simps out there willing to pay a subscription fee to see nude photos of you. Meanwhile if you're a man, even a handsome one, nobody will ever give a shit about you unless you commit actions that increase your social standing. Men are just as culpable here for feeding this industry, sometimes we are our own worst enemy.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/22 06:13 AM
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As a married guy with young kids who still gets laid all the time I think you can't understate the importance of the mental and emotional side of things for women. If you don't have a good sex life with your woman 9 times out of 10 there's underlying and unresolved issues in the relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/22 04:40 AM
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This is insane, stop worshipping materialism. This is not the path to finding what you seek.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/22 08:54 AM
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Yeah you're right I was more just illustrating why women are inherently more "valuable" than men. As for tens of millions of men dying in war we actually have two real life examples of this occurring in less than 100 years. I believe monogamy and pair bonding is the ideal circumstance for man-woman relationships but there's a hardwired biological reason why most guys would tell you they'd die for their women in a heartbeat, women don't tend to think about dying protecting their men because women…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/22 09:22 AM
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It's just biology, I'm not bitter about it. Men are much more expendable than women, you can have literally millions of men die in war and the nation can still repopulate. You're right if only one man was left on earth he would be extremely valuable but that seems like a pretty silly and extreme example. 1 man and 10 women can make 10 children in a year but 10 men and 1 woman can only make 1 child in that same timeframe, that's what it boils down to in the simplest terms.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/22 08:50 AM
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The funny reality is the worth of individual men is entirely determined by their actions, whereas women (especially of childbearing age) have an inherent worth regardless of their accomplishments. I have no doubt that men and women are seen and perceived differently, but I think the most important takeaway is in recognizing that nobody gives a shit about men unless you do something that makes you worthy.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/22 07:30 AM
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Women are completely fine the way they are, what men need is a political and cultural shift in our institutions back to patriarchy.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/22 07:26 AM
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If you're a woman it's pretty unlikely you have 15% bodyfat unless you're extremely athletic/on PED's/a concentration camp victim
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/22 07:20 AM
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Maybe it's because they know the grass isn't greener on the other side. I don't consider myself unattractive but rather pretty average, my wife is significantly hotter than me. I always tell people I rolled double 6's and I'd be an idiot to ever roll the dice again. She also cooks and cleans and bears strong children for my bloodline.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/22 07:16 AM
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I'm gen z and I met my wife in middle school, never touched dating apps in my life.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/22 06:28 AM
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I haven't seen a marvel movie since iron man 1, capeshit is peak consoomer. Marvel has zero artistic spirit, it exists solely to generate billions of dollars in merchandise sales.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/22 05:06 AM
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No you don't have to be more vulnerable, women like the idea of vulnerability but they aren't attracted to vulnerability. The important thing to understand is that love is active not passive, that means you have to actually "put the work in" and show your love regularly through your actions in order to foster love and emotional intimacy in your relationship. A lot of people think love is a passive feeling that just comes and goes on a whim but it really doesn't work like that, it's built through…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/22 11:10 PM
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Internet porn is a very modern phenomenon. The ease of accessibility is what makes it truly fucked, it's engineered to get you hooked, and the whole thing is a giant lie. It's not even a fantasy, it's a fabrication. It's not how real people make love, it commodifies sex, it objectifies the shit out of women like a human meat market, and it's made in such a way that men with our visual minds are much more prone to being hooked.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/22 07:28 AM
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Super well said.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/22 07:23 AM
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I couldn't go longer than a week without sex if my life depended on it but porn is shit and I truly believe consuming it in any quantity is horrible for you. Having actual sex is a million times better than watching any porn star out there, so why not have real sex instead of wasting your time watching porn?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/22 07:15 AM
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You should definitely acknowledge your feelings, then control how you react to them and how you let that influence your behavior. Depression mostly isn't real in that it's just a symptom of being a sedentary human on a shit diet boxed up in a dense and urbanized hyper consumerist society. Interestingly as societies industrialize and urbanize, depression and suicides rates climb straight up.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/22 06:01 AM
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Yeah thats totally possible, I don't have a crystal ball by any means. It's interesting that it will eventually probably boil down to a fight between men who are for this future and men who want to completely restructure society, just like all wars in all of human history. I see the tensions of this kind of conflict boiling just beneath the surface with things like the overturning of Roe v Wade. I certainly don't feel women's interests are inherently more moral than men's interests, I would also…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/22 05:52 AM
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We can't control technological development but we absolutely can control political institutions that most directly shape society and our daily lives. There is a fundamental imbalance between men and women and this is what allowed for the creation of patriarchal systems worldwide across all cultures in the first place, that is, men are the perpetrators of nearly all violence, and pretty well all warfare period. All major events in history have been ultimately decided by iron and blood, again pret…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/22 05:36 AM
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Technology should serve humanity not the other way around, if the trajectory we're on now renders the future of men as useless and meaningless 400 lb blob WALL-E looking fucks locked onto floating chairs watching screens and consuming every second of the day then the trajectory we're on is bullshit. That situation is untenable for me, I cannot personally coexist in a society that refuses to permit men a dignified and fundamental role to play in the cultural fabric. The future looks bleak, if you…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/22 05:18 AM
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The problem is everyone who uses that term just uses it as a catchall for all masculine behaviors. They want to socialize men to be like women rather than acknowledge the unique social and biological characteristics of men.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/22 05:09 AM
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Men fighting is normal masculinity, sometimes guys fight for shitty reasons and act imorally, but violence itself is absolutely inseparable from the human condition and it's incredibly naive to think otherwise. Look at all of human history. Trying to socialize men to behave like women is both cruel and fruitless. Drinking yourself to death has absolutely nothing to do with masculinity. Holding your shit together and conducting your affairs without breaking down is normal masculinity, people who …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/22 05:06 AM
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Look around yourself man, these thing are engineered to have people consume them in excess. 70% of the population is overweight or obese, that's not because our society is enjoying a moderate intake of shit food. The average American is spending 4-7 hours a day watching TV, that's a huge chunk of the entire time you'll spend awake. These kinds of gross excesses exist just as readily in porn consumption, I would bet a lot of money the majority of all men watch porn every single day. You can't enj…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/22 04:58 AM
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Immediate self gratification is a lie man, it's no different than eating at McDonald's or binging Netflix for 8 hours at a time. Being comfortable is the worst thing a man can be. Porn is a problem because it's the epitome of the commodification of sex, except now every chick you went to high school with has an onlyfans. The proliferation of internet porn has been absolutely massive, just going off my buddies and guys I know almost all men watch porn every single day.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/22 04:46 AM
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Toxic masculinity doesn't exist.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/22 04:41 AM
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Unless there's a hormonal or emotional problem you should be doing sexy time at least a couple times per week. Outside of that I'd say just put your energy into life, train harder in the gym, etc. Porn conditions men into thinking they need to get off every single day all the time, it's seriously like brain crack. Most of us started when we were like 13 which makes it even worse.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/22 04:39 AM
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Relationships between men are very important but they're fundamentally different than a relationship with a woman and they're meant to fulfill different things. A balanced man has both a woman of his own and a tight circle of likeminded men
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/22 04:31 AM
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Because most people are in a monogamous relationship? Porn is a lie man it's so fucking bad for the health of young men especially. When you're with one woman you shouldn't be looking at anyone but that woman, and if you don't have a woman you shouldn't be wasting your time jerking off to porn.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/22 04:26 AM
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I'm a 5'9 man and I've honestly never felt my height is a limiting factor, I'm taller than 95% of women I've encountered in my life and that's really all that matters.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/22 04:23 AM
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If unlimited rights with no liability, civic responsibility, or cultural cohesion leads to demographic collapse and the suicide of our civilization then I think a reasonable argument can be made to restrict rights on those grounds. It doesn't even need to be anything that intensely radical, the vast majority of modern gender relations issues can be traced back to women entering the workforce en masse, and also society shaming motherhood as inferior to careerism.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/22 04:19 AM
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That's because you're supposed to get married and start a family in your early 20's, biologically speaking.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/22 08:32 AM
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I think when you know you know, move on your instinct and act decisively. I gave my wife a promise ring two months into dating and we're married with children 7 years on. I think gaming psychology is a risky approach, it's much better to just take the initiative and act on the feelings you feel most deeply before you miss your shot and the opportunity is gone forever. Emotionally invest in the right woman, most importantly be genuine to that woman and to yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/22 08:28 AM
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It's the default state of existence for men because the worth of men is entirely defined by their actions. You start as nothing and you must build yourself into something. It's the great dilemma of masculinity, something which is "hard won and easily lost" I don't think men would benefit from being socialized like women because men and women are fundamentally different.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/22 08:23 AM
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Absolutely not, just provide your value as a man and it all evens out.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/22 06:50 AM
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Yes you're probably right. Men are biologically hardwired to want to fight, but they also need status in society. Men are also much more expendable, basically the greatest thing we bring to the table is the ability to physically protect and provide for women.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/22 09:21 AM
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You want to be sure you can actually depend on the person you're trusting your life with, no doubt about that. A lot of people are really awful with partner selection. My wife and I have a really good dynamic, she still speaks up and speaks her mind but she's submissive and she entrusts final decisions to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/22 09:01 AM
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Nobody who bench presses less than 225 lbs should be legally allowed to vote. They should have a bench press at every polling station to verify before voters are registered and ballots are casted
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/22 08:53 AM
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A lot of men are fucking awful when it comes to children. With every single mom there's a deadbeat dad that walked away somewhere in the mix. I'm as traditional and hard right as it gets and I still think parenting is a 2 person responsibility. When I get home from work I want to spend time with my kids. I would rather die than fail my kids.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/22 08:40 AM
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I mean we have young children that occupy a lot of time, we also have some livestock on our land. Honestly my wife has more friends than me, she's friends with every mother on our street. They all get together for woman social events and such. I make decent money and my wife is actually way hotter than me, I know nobody is a true 10 but my wife is pretty up there lol. My buddies couldn't really believe it when things got serious between us.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/22 08:35 AM
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I work 40 hours a week and I own a house, I'm also 24 years old. Home time is much more important to me than work, so long as I can pay the bills then money doesn't really mean shit to me. The nice thing with my wife not working is whenever I'm off we have time off together, it's not like we're trying to work through two busy schedules at once.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/22 08:30 AM
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Anti depressants are mostly BS. You just need a man who you actually like and feel would do anything to protect you and take care of you. It's ironic you bring up anti depressants though like every workaholic female in her 20s isn't on SSRI's lol
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/22 08:21 AM
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I'm married to an actual woman and I think I understand her wants and desires pretty well. The vast majority of women are submissive. I have no problem letting my wife spend money, even though I earn it all it's still our money, I'm just contributing to the household.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/22 08:11 AM
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So do you have a successful relationship then? You said you've only ever dated down, which implies multiple failed past relationships. Have you actually succeeded with this strategy yet?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/22 08:05 AM
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You can justify it however you like but men overwhelmingly aren't interested, it's not a selling point for us in choosing a partner. I'm not looking for another dude, I want a woman who acts feminine and submissive. If you're so obsessed with your own independence then maybe you aren't mature enough for a dedicated long term relationship yet.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/22 08:02 AM
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This is straight up the only subreddit that isn't over moderated to shit where you get banned for discussing anything remotely controversial
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/22 07:11 AM
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I'm not really interested in assigning blame so much as engineering a workable solution.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/22 07:05 AM
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No ma'am im cool as ice
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/22 07:02 AM
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Women invested in their careers make awful partners, they've pretty much devoted their lives to intensely roleplaying as men so they will put their career before their partner and even their own children. I would absolutely much rather provide the money myself and just have a woman who's a good hearted person.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/22 06:58 AM
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If I link you a source showing heroin use is at an all time high does that somehow mean heroin consumption is a good thing?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/22 06:55 AM
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You've got it backwards, men are responsible for solving everyone's problems. I am the head of a one income family, I own a house, pay the bills, and earn every penny my family lives off of. I don't just say "someone should do something" I prefer to do it myself. Men staying home with kids is an awful idea, the woman working will just grow to resent the man at home and seek out a higher status man she perceives as being able to take care of her. It's incompatible with the biological desires of m…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/22 06:50 AM
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As cliche as it sounds I've been able to punch way over my weight just by being confident and charismatic. You can't relay those traits effectively on the internet but in person it can really make the difference. I don't think I would do well at OLD lol, but then again neither would 80% of all men.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/22 06:42 AM
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There's probably not many of us left outside the history books Yes career women have kids (if they can conceive in their mid to late 30's) then they ship their 3 month old infants off to institutionalized child warehousing for 40+ hours a week in perpetuity. Really healthy societal framework you've got there.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/22 06:38 AM
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Society machine broke
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/22 06:35 AM
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What? I'm not talking about spenders I'm talking about "career women" putting off trying for kids until they're 35 years old so they can sit at an office desk for 40+ hours a week. I'm white, anglo saxon ancestry. I'm also married for what that's worth. I'm not really interested in blaming women because I don't think women are some hivemind bloc conspiring to unravel society, they're just doing whatever makes them feel good and not really thinking about it any deeper than that.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/22 06:29 AM
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People are being heavily incenticized to put off having families for as long as humanly possible so they can generate additional GDP for the state. People are told if they just accumulate enough consumerist things then they will be happy and fulfilled, the people have been lied to. I definitely think men should exercise more political control than women, but I don't think women should be slaves or anything like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/22 06:20 AM
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I think I pretty clearly stated it was a step, not a comprehensive solution. There needs to be a path for young people to get married and start families.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/22 06:11 AM
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I think it comes in steps, I can't necessarily tell you what all of those steps look like but I think things like the overturning of Roe v Wade are nudges in the right direction.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/22 06:05 AM
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Oh man don't get me wrong, birth control and alcohol are both horrendous. Nobody should be using birth control and alcohol use should be very modest or none. I will absolutely stand up for that. There's also levels to this, for instance women can "get away" with having much more body fat than men while still looking good. Men holding fat pretty universally look like shit, we don't have a big ass and breasts to divert that excess fat to so instead it just congregates on our midsection and looks l…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/22 06:03 AM
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Well I mean be reasonable here, how much time have young men had as adults to even have an impact on the state of modern society? Not much. So it really isn't our fault we were born into this, but we are absolutely responsible for alevitating it. Nobody is coming to help us, young men have a unique opportunity to seize fate by the horns and restore some balance to society.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/22 05:58 AM
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Back what up? That gen x sucks? Gen X have been running the show for 20+ years now and look where it's led us, divisions are exasperated and social media hounds the existence of young people. Nobody is getting married, nobody is having kids, hell a huge amount of young people aren't even having sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/22 05:40 AM
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Deflect if you want but gen x were massive failures and almost as bad as boomers themselves. I see a lot of gen z among dedicated hard right conservatives these days.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/22 05:29 AM
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Gen X are too old to see the impacts of their failures. You understand the divorce rate of gen x is astronomical right? They are the ones who raised a generation of kids in broken homes.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/22 05:19 AM
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Yes they should be willing to give up all of that stupid bullshit. I gave all of that up for my wife and children and I am an utterly average man. If I can do it, any man can. I believe the vast majority of women and men want children but we live in a society that strongly incentivizes putting it off for as long as humanly possible so you can wageslave and generate additional GDP for the state. Yes of course, there will always be single men. Life will always have winners and losers, some incel g…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/22 05:09 AM
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They definitely matter just as much. Society has to be workable for both men and women, my point was that the current system is unworkable for too large a segment of the population for it to be sustainable in the long term. Most women are naturally submissive and actually prefer to submit (to a man they actually like mind you, not just anyone) and men are naturally dominant. There are outliers in both genders because obviously humanity is a huge and diverse species but a strong majority of men a…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/22 05:05 AM
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I know this sounds like a weird thing to be nuanced about, but I think there's a difference between "less rights" and "no rights" I totally get that it sounds edgy as fuck either way, but I'm worried we've gone too far as a society. I'm mostly concerned with the implications for future generations. The current system just isn't workable for a lot of young men, I see it among my buddies all the time. All people have the right to be treated with dignity, women also have a right to feel safe and no…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/22 04:55 AM
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And I totally understand food as a coping mechanism, I love greasy hamburgers and French fries, the whole thing. But I hate looking like shit and being weak, so to me sacrificing comfort foods is 100% worth it if it makes me into a stronger and more capable man. As usual the more you're willing to suffer the greater of a person you can become.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/22 04:42 AM
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I would take someone penniless and in amazing shape before I take a millionaire who's 400 lbs. I'm sure not everyone feels that way but I do. Fat absolutely means lazy, unless your thyroid literally doesn't work and you're on T3 to survive. Money really doesn't mean shit, not nearly as much as most people think it means.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/22 04:39 AM
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We do it by enshrining the gender roles that have gotten us through the last 20,000+ years of existence up until 40-50 years ago.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/22 04:34 AM
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This is tough because as OP states we live in a society with a shitload of fat people, most of them are a product of their environment. Shit foods are absolutely everywhere in the western diet and most people live sedentary lifestyles, but fat people are kind of disgusting to me. It's kind of the ultimate signifier that you don't give a fuck, if you can't even take basic care of your body how can you meaningfully contribute to the lives of others? To me its like someone who doesn't shower. Espec…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/22 04:33 AM
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If you're new to training then you can probably just simplify to an upper and lower body split so you're hitting everything at least a couple times per week. I would do chest, arms, and shoulders all together
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/22 04:23 AM
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Gambling is essentially a tax on stupid people.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/22 04:21 AM
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You want to.... alter the hormonal profile of all men? This is pretty insane stuff. Good luck with that though for real.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/22 04:19 AM
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Okay well I can promise you that my roving band of ultra masculine barbarian revolutionaries won't tolerate rapists, they get free dirt naps.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/22 04:12 AM
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No you're right, but the flip side of that point is which society historically was not laboured for and built by men? Every great empire, every single one, was built by men from the ground up. We are definitely both creators and destroyers. I'm not happy to sacrifice anybody and I have no intention to, I think you're over dramatizing what must be done to bring balance back to our society. All I'm saying is we've gone a little too far, the pendulum needs to swing back. Inevitably I will try to de…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/22 04:10 AM
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The democrats are about to be crushed in the midterms man, Joe Biden is as unpopular as Trump was at his worst. The US is deeply divided, a 60/40 split is a deep division comprising tens of millions of people with fundamentally opposing views. I think you're underestimating the position of the right wing in the US, if the backlash is strong enough and the economy gets bad enough I could see the US becoming much more right wing and conservative in the coming years.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/22 04:01 AM
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I wouldn't want to will it away, you're entitled to your own views like anybody is. I don't think bringing the hammer down on gender relations is a fun or lighthearted thing, but rather an 11th hour desperate measure to mitigate the destructive impacts modern society is having on men and women both. Men must have a purpose and a role to play, if you tell them there is no place for them in the new society then you can't be surprised when they seek to destroy that society.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/22 03:55 AM
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I don't believe that lonely incel men are about to rise up and start raping random women in the streets or anything, that sounds like a bad horror movie plot. But I do believe men who have inherited a society where they have no value or purpose may seek to destroy that society and build something else. I forsee a strong ultra conservative backlash especially in places like the US.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/22 03:52 AM
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I really have no desire to emulate India or Saudi Arabia. I take your point, but I do believe restricting rights to whatever minimum degree is necessary to ensure the continued viability of society is a justifiable course of action.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/22 03:50 AM
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Yeah I mean that's awful and a tragedy but abortion should still be banned everywhere and without exceptions, try it at your own peril I guess.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/22 03:48 AM
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I'm not threatening anyone, it's an observation of the growing backlash in modern western politics. You're right there are tons of men who feel the way you do, there are also literally millions of young men who feel exactly as I described, purposeless and without value, and that those men as a collective bloc probably won't accept the future they're headed towards. Hence why I believe society is headed for strife and civil conflict.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/22 03:42 AM
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It's hard to expect a smooth transition when in the span of 50 years you wipe out the previous 20,000+ years of clearly defined gender social relations and roles.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/22 03:38 AM
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I swear I'm not telepathic lol. Well yes they will submit, but the process of submission would probably involve a political upheaval which is already starting to happen (the overturning of Roe v Wade for instance) it is innate because men are 100% capable of imposing their will. Quality of life is a pretty meaningless metric and it's not at all well defined. There is lots of diversity within humans and cultures but I'm telling you biological imperative isn't an opinion or a trend that some peopl…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/22 03:29 AM
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There are no advantages for the modern woman, but the logical conclusion of this new social dynamic is apocalyptic for society. Unless you're counting on millions of men living like sexless and childless worker ants that wageslave, watch netflix, jerk off to porn, and get fat until they expire and die. Society should be restructured so men and women need each other again, we can either have a symbiotic and cooperative society where men and women both have dignified roles to play or we can contin…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/22 03:17 AM
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If that's really what you believe then why don't you start with yourself? I'm not trying to be an asshole, just pointing out that your worldview is either inconsistent or incredibly self destructive. We're not amoeba, you're right. We're humans that possess a hardwired biological imperative to create families and reproduce. You might not like it but you'd have to take your grievances up with biology, not me. Women and men both have to sacrifice to build a society worth existing in. If your quali…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/22 03:06 AM
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Nah that's a ridiculous and anti human take. Suffering is an inherent component of the human condition, it accompanies us everywhere we go across all cultures and all times in history. We can try to mitigate bad things as much as possible, and we do, but bad things still inevitably happen. It doesn't mean give up and go jump off a bridge or never have kids, it means learn to adapt, overcome, and endure.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/22 02:55 AM
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You don't have to be deceitful but it can be helpful to "hide your power level" so to speak. Don't betray your convictions, try to be genuine, but also know when is best to act reserved. Dating is hard but it isn't pointless, also make sure to date with the full intention of marrying otherwise it is pointless.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/22 01:57 AM
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I don't really care about sex for the sake of sex, nor do I think women should be slaves. I'm not an incel, I'm married to a woman and I spend a lot of time around her so I do have some insight into the woman's perspective. I think your conclusions are logical given the circumstances in society, I'm not criticizing you personally but rather highlighting that your mentality (which almost all young women possess) is not sustainable and will probably lead to violent conflict. There is nothing guara…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/22 12:16 AM
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The world has been shitty since day 0. War, famine, plague, civil strife, and civilizational collapse have been the norm since the very onset of organized human society. All I'm saying is we're past due for another massive collapse and restructuring. Men and women have had defined roles in human societies for 200,000 years, it's only in the last century women have been granted any political agency at all, and only in the last 4 or 5 decades that women have truly held an "egalitarian" status with…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/22 12:03 AM
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And ignore the macro impact of our life decisions on net outcomes for society? It seems like you want to ignore that because you know this train is going to run straight off the tracks. It's just not sustainable.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/22 11:52 PM
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I'm a 24 year old man so we're not far off in terms of where we're at in our life, however I'm married with children. I'll try to explain in clear terms why it isn't okay, because the society you exist in does not start and end with you, you do not exist in a vacuum. Almost all young women think exactly the way you do "whatever makes me immediately happy must be good" it's fundamentally untrue. Trust me as someone who has young children, you absolutely cannot do a good job at it by yourself, and…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/22 11:47 PM
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I've known her since we were young children, so I guess school originally. I've never used OLD in my life thankfully but I've been with my wife since I was 18.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/22 11:26 PM
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It's probably not worth letting them have unlimited rights if it leads to much worse life outcomes for children and the destabilization of society. I think it's worth asking where does all of this actually lead? As women now surpass men in college enrollment and increasingly find themselves in higher paying jobs, but their biology still makes them inclined to only desire a partner they perceive as being able to take care of them, what happens to the bottom 40%+ of men left out? Do they roll over…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/22 11:25 PM
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Women entering the work force en masse is likely the pivotal turning point that led to a rapid deterioration of marriage, child rearing, and even fostering romantic relationships at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/22 11:17 PM
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As a married zoomer man with young children, it's absolutely hopeless for the vast majority of men. Society needs to be completely restructured from the ground up. Social media is a cancer and the trajectory we're on is not sustainable, it will lead to conflict.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/22 11:15 PM
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PUA's don't teach you how to get women, they're snakeoil salesmen. It's pretty understandable if you don't "get it" naturally because we live in a society that shits all over traditional masculinity, we try to raise little boys to be more like girls.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/22 11:05 PM
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She's not deflecting or reaching lol. Between an average woman and an average man at the exact same height the man will still possess 30+ lbs of additional lean muscle tissue with zero extra training, and a fuckton more upper body strength which is an enormous advantage in fighting.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/22 06:31 AM
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The problem is the inherent biological asymmetry that exists between men and women, the fact that the average man could kill the average woman with his bare hands. Not that most ever would, but they're certainly capable in purely physical terms. So it's like having a bowl of jellybeans and saying that only 1 or 2 in the whole bowl is filled with cyanide, that's essentially the predicament of women. They have to choose a man carefully.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/22 06:26 AM
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The biological clock ticks faster for women than men, this is because the window for a woman to conceive children is relatively small, it starts to close past 30 and it really starts to close fast at 35+. Men generally have a few extra years to make those decisions but in any case nobody is immortal, both genders value youth because being old generally sucks. Things break, you become weaker and more frail, and you grow closer to death with each passing year.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/22 04:08 AM
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Definitely seek out a woman of your own people if you want to raise children so you're coming from the same cultural framework, imo it's important for your children to have a strong sense of culture and identity. Money really doesn't matter as much as people think it does, Kanye is a billionaire but he's still a divorced loser. You have to focus on values above all, make yourself into a great man and "walk the walk" so to speak.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/22 03:56 AM
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This is a lie I've literally never had woman friends in my life and I don't want them, I've had zero trouble with women. I like having one woman in a partner dynamic that I know I can count on but being surrounded by them sounds awful. Men should seek out other likeminded men to be friends with, the big thing with male friendship is accountability and mutual self improvement.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/22 08:40 PM
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Why would a good man want to marry someone like you? That's the question you should be asking yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/22 08:13 PM
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It's a long form way of saying they're a whore
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/22 08:12 PM
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Why would people who hate each other get married in the first place? Your premise is ridiculous. People don't communicate or resolve conflict effectively, they just give up because we have a culture that affirms weakness and giving up.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/22 10:16 PM
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Marriage is the greatest thing you can do in your life apart from having kids. That being said, 41% divorce rate is still utterly insane and no fault divorce should be outlawed.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/22 09:42 PM
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Get married, procreate a lot, drink raw goats milk, chop wood.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/22 09:39 PM
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Well I certainly think the state should pay a stipend to women for each child at minimum, it's obviously not a solution to all problems but I think it's important to recognize the contributions of mothers and the absolutely vital role of motherhood in society. More importantly though I think men should be held accountable, not taking care of your woman shouldn't be an option. Mistreating your woman shouldn't be an option.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/22 09:53 AM
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As egregious as it might sound I'm not sold on limitless freedom being a good thing for women or men. I'm not some tyrannical asshole incel looking to kick my feet up and be served by women at my beckoning either, I'm just a regular guy who sees some pretty gaping cracks forming in the bedrock of our society. Single motherhood, childless adults, the loss of cultural cohesion, the replacement of traditional religions with the worship of consumerism. I feel we're headed down a dark path and if thi…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/22 09:45 AM
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Objectively speaking sex is important and not a small thing as it ties into both intimacy and biological imperative for reproduction. People who are not hormonally balanced in a healthy way may not feel much desire for sexual contact but that's the exception and not the norm. Look at people who spend their entire lives alone, they're not happy or healthy people. Sex is a social and biological act we need just as much as interpersonal relationships as a whole.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/22 09:34 AM
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Do you think human culture spawns out of thin air? Or somehow operates on an axis independent of our biological nature? That strikes me as deeply irrational.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/22 09:25 AM
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Really? That's funny I have children and for some reason I don't recall them getting up and leaving the house to go start their lives at a year old. So what you're actually suggesting here is that the woman works, has her child, then spends a measly 12 months with the child before promptly placing them into institutionalized child warehousing for 40+ hours a week. That right there is choosing your career and self gratification before the immediate needs of your children, to me that's insanity.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/22 09:21 AM
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Testosterone is the hormonal driver of aggression, initiative, and risk taking behavior. Women possess very little serum testoserone, typically less than 70 ng/dl, the average healthy man will possess levels in the neighborhood of 700-900 ng/dl. I cannot stress enough how enormous of a difference that is and how much that impacts everything from behavior to skeletal density and lean muscle tissue. Women are orders of magnitude less aggressive than men across all societies and cultures because wo…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/22 08:45 AM
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The really ironic thing here is the behavior of men and women is largely a cross cultural phenomenon. ie men in Japan and west Africa are just as violent as American men, and women in those countries are just as non violent as American women. This isn't just my cultural perspective, my solutions might be cultural but the observations are not. Our brains and hormonal makeup have not changed since we were chasing elk across open grassland with sharpened sticks 50,000 years ago.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/22 08:38 AM
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I'm glad we're on the same page. We're due for a collapse and re-emergence as a society. The US feels a lot like the late roman Republic these days
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/22 08:29 AM
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Women absolutely are people and they have as much inherent value as men, actually more in biological terms. Women are more valuable than men. That being said, we're also very different at every physiological and hormonal level. Our bodies and minds are built to different but complimentary roles. The average man is so much stronger than the average woman that men who assault women are automatically considered extra reprehensible in our society. The differences between men and women are staggering…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/22 08:27 AM
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I walk the walk tho, I'm married with children. My wife stays home and I pay for all of our expenses. You're right that men failed, but I think you need to understand there's a lot more nuance to this issue than you lend it credit for. The current trajectory of society is not sustainable, with destabilization comes conflict.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/22 08:16 AM
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The problem with your frame of mind is it's all about self gratification for it's own sake, your happiness starts and ends with whatever you want in the heat of the moment. There is actually more to life than getting exactly what you want every second of every day, in fact I'd argue people actually grow the best when they suffer and when they choose service to others instead of service to themselves. I don't blame you here, I hope I'm not coming off as too much of an asshole, literally 90% of wo…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/22 08:11 AM
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Literally like 4 days without trucks running foodstuffs to your city 24/7 and it ceases being a viable place to live. It's a fragile balance for sure, we're a generation of people who really don't know the hardships of famine, disease, or war.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/22 07:48 AM
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You're right on both accounts, we would need some form of state and cultural fascism to achieve that level of social control. China is really more akin to an ethnocentric fascist state than a left socialist one.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/22 07:38 AM
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It's not really about judgement so much as it is following the conclusion to its logical end. If people stop having kids wholesale, we're fucked. It's that simple. It becomes a demographic crisis where basic economic functions become unsustainable. Women can't start trying for kids at 40+, I'm sorry but biology isn't on their side here.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/22 07:31 AM
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It's not worth more than children and the future, if women stop having children so they can go out and roleplay as men, what does that say for the future of our civilization?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/22 07:22 AM
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Most people in cities would starve in days without filled grocery store shelves and 24/7 McDonald's, it's interesting you look down on rural people while city folks hold zero hard skills that have the biggest impact on your ability to cultivate self reliance. You're a cog in a machine that doesn't give a shit about you.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/22 07:19 AM
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This is by far the biggest lie told to women, to essentially be shitty tryhard versions of men and that this will bring them happiness and fulfillment. It actually just serves the elite by massively expanding the pool of wageslaves, destroying the cohesion of the traditional family unit, and expanding an almost religious adherence to modern consumerism
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/22 07:15 AM
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You've articulated perfectly well that the hallmarks of traditional masculinity mean nothing to you, nor does the historical and evolutionary context. All well and good. There's nothing left for us to discuss, carry on.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/22 11:28 AM
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Excellent question, what do full time working women do with their kids? They ship them off to institutionalized child warehousing for 40+ hours per week. Some women do this with infants that are literally only a few months old, it's fucking insane
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/22 11:23 AM
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I have a feeling you were lost from the very first comment because you and I have incompatible belief systems.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/22 11:21 AM
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Thats literally the foundational role of men in collective societies my guy come on have you never opened a history book in your life? The bedrock of our civilization is built on the bloody sacrifice of millions upon millions of men
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/22 11:10 AM
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You're describing the problem, technology has advanced but our monkey brains are physiologically the exact same as they were 200,000 years ago. I'm of the mind that technology should serve humanity, not the other way around. If the overconsumption and mass proliferation of technology makes the role of men "obsolete" then that needs to be addressed. Because where this actually ends isn't good, you can't just throw away 50% of society's entire population like a used condom.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/22 11:02 AM
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Thats just one part of the role, I also pay all of the bills. I pay for the house, the food, education savings for our kids, extra spending money, etc etc. Those absolutely are regular responsibilities that are entirely my burden. So are outdoor chores. Plowing my driveway, cutting the lawn, feeding my livestock.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/22 11:00 AM
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Not to tickle my own dick but I've gone into lots of burning buildings for strangers, I would die in a heartbeat for my wife. I couldn't live with myself if I ever let anything happen to her. Don't sell yourself short, you should find a man who you believe has the courage and tenacity to protect you in those frightening situations.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/22 10:58 AM
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It's rooted in 200,000+ years of social psychology and human mating practices. The stuff you believe in is rooted in ideology that traces its lineage back a few decades.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/22 10:49 AM
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You can keep selling yourself lies all you want, I'm just saying your mentality will never end with a fulfilled lifelong partnership. You're misunderstanding how both men and women fundamentally work.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/22 10:45 AM
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How many times does it have to happen to fuck up your life and family forever? She knows you're there, you're the rock. That's the point. Whether someone ever tries fucking around and finding out is irrelevant, women like having men that make them feel safe.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/22 10:41 AM
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Yeah thats fair for sure, the issue is women probably shouldn't be in the workforce en masse because the dynamic is so dysfunctional and harmful to society. You're right that a woman can't be expected to work 50 hours and do domestic labour and raise children all at once, it's absurd. It's setup to fail.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/22 10:33 AM
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Literally almost all of the rigors of life. Protection from murderers, robbers, assholes, starvation, homelessness. It's better for the man to get hurt 100 times before the woman gets hurt once.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/22 10:31 AM
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Your OP is correct. It's a social contract, and part of why feminism/women's liberation has caused so much discord and moral rot in the mainstream. I would say most modern women would tell you they don't feel the need to be protected, that is until someone twice their size is trying to hurt them in a dark alleyway at 2 AM. Our society tells a lot of lies to women from a very young age.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/22 10:08 AM
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Congratulations you've just discovered why warfare is as old as mankind is.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/22 10:02 AM
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Every single guy I know who's had one of these relationships where they split domestic duties has failed. Every single one. When your inherent roles aren't clearly defined like this you will end up fighting over who's turn it is to do what chore, it's an invetiable point of friction and eventually resentment. I've watched a lot of my buddies go through this exact situation, don't do it. Domestic work is the duty of the woman and this should be established at the very start of the relationship. M…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/22 09:56 AM
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Women really shouldn't be in the workforce, that solves 90% of your modern social issues.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/22 04:46 AM
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Genghis Khan was good at being a man but he was not a good man, that distinction is important. He was able to spread his genes through conquest and cruelty, as you pointed out. Evolutionary principles should not be the singular focus of complex, thoroughly modern sociological issues, but it still has a role to play especially when modern society has become so detached from the biological fundamentals of human relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/22 04:05 AM
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Money is worthless and consumerism is a lie. Fancy suits and nice cars don't win you the woman you want to raise your children. I would argue men are driven by cause, if a man has no cause he's practically dead inside. It's hard to wade through all of the crap distractions in society but so much of it is utterly meaningless. Attract the woman you want by being a good man, as cliche as it sounds.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/22 11:56 AM
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Yeah men much more so than women. To be honest I've never been worried about women coming on to me because that generally just isn't how women behave. Not all men are predatory pieces of shit but almost all predatory pieces of shit are men. We have some married friends, it's not like my wife interacts with 0 men other than me, but there are pretty firm boundaries for both of us and honestly it's worked out really great so far.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/22 10:08 AM
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She's a human being not property but she's also submissive to me in the marriage that she voluntarily entered. My values aren't a secret, we sat down and had long conversations about morality and worldview very early in our relationship. This isn't a one way street either, I offer her the same courtesy. I don't stare at women or go to strip clubs with the boys, I don't flirt or watch porn. It's all shit, people have lost their way because in modern relationships nobody is prepared to set boundar…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/22 09:56 AM
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I'm 100% confident my woman has self control, I do too. It's about respect, if other men don't show respect for my marriage then there is going to be conflict between myself and those men. My wife is fantastic, she shows me lots of affection while dressing and acting modest in public. We're a traditional couple and frankly I reject modern relationship dynamics because they're dysfunctional as shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/22 09:27 AM
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I have a lot of friends in a lot of different professions and the unfortunate reality is that being too friendly with coworkers of the opposite sex creates the opportunity for something inappropriate to happen like catching feelings. It doesn't mean you have to be awkward or hostile with people, but it does mean you owe your spouse a reasonable commitment to avoid allowing those situations to occur. Our monkey brains don't allow us to consciously choose who we find attractive or get feelings for…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/22 08:14 AM
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How? It's a question of morality and core value systems. I'm happily married and a reasonably successful breadwinner in my household, my wife stays home with our children and we enjoy pretty traditional relationship dynamics. I'm more secure about myself at this stage of my life than I've ever been before. You might be cool with the hotdog shower raining down on your woman, if you have one. More power to you man.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/22 07:56 AM
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The red pill is not infallible, there's plenty of stupid douchebags pumping out YouTube videos on how to manipulate women for casual sex, they're trying to sell this to younger low status men as a solution to their problems. A lot of environmental observations from the red pill are correct, a lot of their conclusions and solutions are not. Take what is valid and ignore the rest, it's not a religious doctrine.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/22 06:19 AM
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There would be a shitload of war and turmoil until the male population comes down to a sustainable level, likely around 50/50 man and woman
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/22 06:15 AM
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I'm a man who has kids, my wife is in great shape and her body still went through changes over the course of two pregnancies. Because we live in a society obsessed with porn culture, that is the hyper idealized and hyper sexualized vision for how all women should look and behave, she sometimes feels insecure about it. My point was just that a man's "ideal woman" should account for the changes that inevitably occur after children, and that it really doesn't detract from her beauty at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/22 06:06 AM
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It's almost always inappropriate in the context of a relationship but I understand it if you're a young single guy who wants the opportunity to meet women. I certainly wouldn't want my woman hanging around random ass men so I offer her the same courtesy. Female friends don't really have anything to offer me that my wife doesn't already offer. Male friends on the other hand offer competition, challenge, emulation, inspiration, and accountability so it's incredibly beneficial for men to get out th…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/22 01:19 AM
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It's a very common misconception in the mainstream, but it's important to "never interrupt your enemy when he's making a mistake" it's generally good to be underestimated. Society is barely functional and it's in free fall, there is a better way to live.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/22 01:05 AM
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I don't. This sounds like a severe projection of insecurities. Insecurity is the hallmark of the weak man. If men stopped watching porn and lifted weights 99% of our problems would be solved.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/22 12:59 AM
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I don't think I'm a gigachad but I started dating my wife at 18 and we married at 21, I think maybe shitty women might be doing things like you describe but good women marry young and have children young, we aren't meant to wait until we're gray and crippled to plant our roots.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/22 12:54 AM
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The worst part is these people don't even realize they're dying, I cannot imagine being in the prime of your life and opting to stay a fat sack of shit. I would rather deplete myself to the point of starvation than live like that. We only have a few years in our prime, like literally less than a decade, between 20 and 30 years old you are the strongest, fastest, toughest, and most able you will ever be in your entire life, it only goes downhill after that. Why not choose to be strong for the pre…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/22 12:47 AM
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Women's bodies change after they have children so it isn't good to fixate on the porn culture body type stuff because it's all bullshit. The most important thing is not being a fat slob of shit because you don't want your kids to be fat slobs of shit. For men I think it's a little different because we don't have kids ripping through our bodies. Young men especially should aim to be as physically strong and lean as possible.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/22 12:40 AM
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It's biologically irrational, it makes zero sense for women to pursue men in a biological and evolutionary context so they overwhelmingly don't do it. Personally I wouldn't be into it, it kind of comes off as tryhard girlboss stuff. Never in the history of our species have women needed to pursue men, don't fix what isn't broken.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/22 12:33 AM
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Dating within is generally best IMO especially if you plan to have children as it provides you and your spouse with a mutual cultural framework to raise your children around.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/22 07:40 AM
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You're missing the evolutionary context here. Individual women are much more valuable than individual men because of biology, only women can gestate. As men the best we can do is sacrifice our bodies and time to build a household worthy of our own woman and children. Women bring life into this world, men guard them and provide for them. Our societies and technology have evolved tremendously since 200,000 years ago but our monkey brains remain the exact same. The hardwired hormonal makeup is iden…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/22 07:32 AM
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Dating apps and the circumstances of modern western culture are directly attributable to the advances of feminism and women's liberation, the realization of many men at this juncture is that the policies and philosophy of women's liberation are an abject failure. It leads to a soulless hellhole of a society where long term monogamy, child bearing, the planting of roots and passing of the torch simply do not occur. Now both parents get to wageslave away and ship their children (if they have any) …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/22 07:20 AM
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It's an interesting idea but completely implausible. Even with hundreds of thousands of dollars dumped into every plastic surgery imaginable old people still look like shit. There's literally no escaping father time, every single one of us will be a corpse in the ground in a few decades. The biggest appeal of youth is in understanding how finite it is, for a few short years you hit your absolute peak then your body slowly succumbs to the rigors of time. None of us were meant to be here for long.…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/22 10:23 AM
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You're describing the bottom of the shit barrel lowest tier of morally abhorrent married men. Cohabitation does not come with daily bickering, conflict is inevitable but the idea should be for adults to build constructive communication tools to resolve conflict in a healthy manner. In a traditional marriage the woman is also subservient to the man, this natural order helps to protect against conflicts that tend to emerge around gender roles in secular non traditional families. In my marriage I k…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/22 10:12 AM
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Yes because God doesn't care about the material wealth of men, it's meaningless
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/22 08:35 AM
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The biological wall has more to do with fertility than anything. After 30 the clock is really starting to tick for women, fertility declines significantly from 35 on and complications increase. Humans aren't supposed to wait until they're middle aged to start having kids, that's the great modern anomaly.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/22 08:32 AM
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