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39	No, women have not "left men behind and upped their standards", they have left themselves behind and there are few worthwhile modern day women to date long-term In response to your second point: Having a good personality IS important in finding a long term partner. A man with a good personality will fare better than a man with a bad personality, assuming both men are perceived as equally attractive by women. However, women here often push a false narrative that theres a shortage of men with decent personalities, emotional stability, and so on. That’s simply not true. Most men (and people in general) are pretty normal and have similar personalities. Wome…	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/01/23 12:44 AM
1	What does the "average man's" standards look like? And the "average woman's"? And what age is that?	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/12/22 05:00 PM
2	What does the "average man's" standards look like? And the "average woman's"? I think some people here are just terminally online lol	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/12/22 05:00 PM
1	What does the "average man's" standards look like? And the "average woman's"? Yeah no A lot of guys have perfectly good personalities, that’s not the issue here.	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/12/22 04:58 PM
1	Women often use fear as an excuse to be rude to men even though men have assaulted/victimized more men than women No, white people are statistically more likely to be a victim of a crime perpetrated by a black person.	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/12/22 04:57 PM
10	What does the "average man's" standards look like? And the "average woman's"? It is different for men lol A lot of guys I know irl are single and virgins but there’s literally nothing wrong with them. I guess they’re like “medium ugly” or something but that’s it. And they’re not opposed to dating girls who are ugly either	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/12/22 06:31 AM
2	What do you think about these "Are we dating the same guy" groups? Textbook definition of whataboutism	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/12/22 01:51 AM
6	What does the "average man's" standards look like? And the "average woman's"? Given that men have lower standards than women, how can an average woman not have success? In general, it’s basically unheard of for a normal, well adjusted woman to be an incel or frustrated in dating.	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/12/22 01:50 AM
8	What does the "average man's" standards look like? And the "average woman's"? There are a lot of average guys who meet these standards, yet not all of them seem to be successful in relationships or even sex. What causes this?	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/12/22 01:46 AM
7	Women often use fear as an excuse to be rude to men even though men have assaulted/victimized more men than women So let me get this straight: women can be afraid of all men, as a gender, because men are statistically more likely to commit violent crime against women (compared to women). This fact justifies virtually all the negative stereotypes that women have about men? It justifies women having a deep, profound fear of all men? It justifies women treating men differently (often with disdain, disgust, and contempt) by default? If so, then what stops anyone from treating different races the same way, since…	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/12/22 01:40 AM
1	Women prefer toxic men I love your little story, but unfortunately the new generation (Gen Z) does NOT operate like that. No overweight, medium ugly man will ever have kids going forward. you might think that's ridiculous, fine, but you've also never talked to girls under the age of 25 or seen the type of shit they say about men who aren't 10/10 "chads" or whatever	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/08/22 06:05 PM
0	Is there something about autism itself (absent any deliberate behaviors) that are turnoffs for potential mates? You seem like a guy who fully subscribes to the just-world fallacy It's pretty funny to see people like you, who are totally out of touch because: 1) you don't go outside or 2) your life was legitimately so easy that you never experienced bullshit or unfairness.	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/08/22 01:33 AM
1	True or False: Women are so complicated, they don't even understand themselves. Men are so simple, the only thing they understand is themselves. yeah it is.	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/08/22 05:20 PM
1	Daily Community Chat Megathread What do you think of the widely held belief (among white men) that Asian women are much much easier than white women? Lately I've been seeing this everywhere. The common sentiment being: "If you're a white dude and can't find luck with women, just go for asian girls. Easiest decision you can make" It seems as though asian women have an inherent preference for white men, even over their own race of men, or at least that is what white men seem to think. And their belief is supported by real life, …	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/08/22 04:10 PM
1	Daily Community Chat Megathread Interesting take. I do notice that white guys see asian women as "preferable" to some white women, because asian women are "basically white" like you said but also a little bit more conservative on certain things and tend to be more family oriented. The Asian women are often first or second generation from culturally conservative households, and they're "rebelling" against their heritage to some extent. Would you say that asian girls going for white guys is an extension of this rebellion?	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/08/22 04:08 PM
1	Daily Community Chat Megathread Most likely interracial pairing when you look at wealth proximity. what do you mean? If anything the data shows that asian women who are with white guys tend to make much less than their partners. In other words the white guys make a lot lot more. asian women with asian guys on the other hand have more equal comparison. interracial relationships being much less stigmatised than they used to be Okay sure there’s way more white guys than there is any other race in the US. But then why don't see …	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/08/22 04:05 PM
2	Daily Community Chat Megathread This is very interesting and quite true. I notice that mere familiarity goes a long way for women in particular. Simply being exposed to a certain race of men from a younger age will totally shape a woman's preference for that race Also, I think that asian girls are used to seeing white men as protagonists in over 90% of famous movies and shows. This must influence them subconsciously a lot	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/08/22 04:03 PM
10	Is there something about autism itself (absent any deliberate behaviors) that are turnoffs for potential mates? However, in my experience, there are also a lot of older married couples where the woman is very extroverted and the man has autism Kinda sad that this will never happen anymore lol. Pouring one out for my autistic bros	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/08/22 03:45 PM
1	Daily Community Chat Megathread Hey guys. I had a question about interracial relationships that probably doesn't need its own thread. Why are pairings between Asian women and white men seemingly common nowadays? Do Asian women (unwittingly) like white men a lot more than other races of men? Why would that be? Sorry if this is inappropriate for the thread.	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/08/22 03:44 PM
1	Men always being expected to make the first move and approach women, how did that tradition or status-quo originate? i doubt i'm in the only guy in the world who has always hated and resented that Because people should be realistic with their standards, not delusional. How are you even asking me this question? Why the fuck should anyone be so egotistical to go for people out of their own league? And societal norms were forcing me to say yes to ugly women. People like you perpetuate these norms by putting down men and overrating women who don’t deserve it. Even your average frat guy seems to notice this phenomenon despite having no knowledge of red pill blue pill shit. If everyone stays in…	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/05/22 04:26 AM
2	Men always being expected to make the first move and approach women, how did that tradition or status-quo originate? i doubt i'm in the only guy in the world who has always hated and resented that Well the man you described is considered very ugly by women. He will never get attention, not even from equally repulsive women. That’s the issue. Ugly women should go for ugly men. Not men like me who are average. You’re like deliberately missing my point while proving me right	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/05/22 03:20 AM
1	What is asshole behaviour? So you’re admitting that less attractive men literally can’t be confident? Great!	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/05/22 03:17 AM
2	Men always being expected to make the first move and approach women, how did that tradition or status-quo originate? i doubt i'm in the only guy in the world who has always hated and resented that Well that’s the fault of women. If girls went for guys who were equally attractive, we wouldn’t have this issue. In fact, the vast majority of the dating problems we see on this sub and in the real world are caused by women going for more attractive men. And men enable this behavior. I certainly did at one point in my life. The women who genuinely improve themselves (the way men do) and behave in a non delusional realistic way (the way men do) easily get into happy relationships. In some cases, …	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/05/22 02:45 AM
3	Men always being expected to make the first move and approach women, how did that tradition or status-quo originate? i doubt i'm in the only guy in the world who has always hated and resented that It really doesn’t matter. If women approach men in their own league that man will likely be interested in dating and a serious relationship. The issue is that women don’t do this. They approach men who are WAYYYYYY out of their league. Like not even close. You’ve got obese women approaching fit, toned guys who play sports and hit the gym. You’ve got women with awful skin and zero social skills “flirting” with men who have great looks and lots of charisma. Men are so lenient with this stuff that …	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/05/22 02:27 AM
1	Men always being expected to make the first move and approach women, how did that tradition or status-quo originate? i doubt i'm in the only guy in the world who has always hated and resented that Yes I am. And I recognize it’s rare. I got lucky as hell	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/05/22 04:05 PM
2	Men always being expected to make the first move and approach women, how did that tradition or status-quo originate? i doubt i'm in the only guy in the world who has always hated and resented that I am a very shy man.	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/05/22 11:08 AM
7	Men always being expected to make the first move and approach women, how did that tradition or status-quo originate? i doubt i'm in the only guy in the world who has always hated and resented that Yep. I wanna emphasize that she made up her mind before she even talked to me. Girls don’t pick guys off personality, it’s all looks. Personality comes weeks later. Many women I’ve talked to have said the same thing, especially when they’re drunk. They decide if a guy is cute right away and it’s pretty hard to change that perception later on	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/05/22 09:26 AM
2	Men always being expected to make the first move and approach women, how did that tradition or status-quo originate? i doubt i'm in the only guy in the world who has always hated and resented that Yep, that’s what I said!	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/05/22 08:58 AM
7	Men always being expected to make the first move and approach women, how did that tradition or status-quo originate? i doubt i'm in the only guy in the world who has always hated and resented that Well they were looking for something. Idk if it was sex or relationship but sex ended up being the end result. The point is, women who make the first move see a lot of success especially if they target average looking men. If they go for men way out of their league… well good luck!	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/05/22 08:54 AM
1	Wanting a relationship Oh I will. But dude I know it’s hard to believe but there are girls like this out there. It’s a numbers game but I hope you can find someone if you look hard enough I’ll admit I got lucky. My gf literally cannot lie to people without getting physically uneasy. That makes me not worry at all about anything. And you deserve to not worry about infidelity and cheating. The fact that men have to worry at all is honestly sad and disgusting. Just hang in there. If you don’t think you can trust this wom…	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/05/22 05:22 AM
3	Men always being expected to make the first move and approach women, how did that tradition or status-quo originate? i doubt i'm in the only guy in the world who has always hated and resented that Fair enough! I’m hoping maybe it can be a gradual thing over time, like men as a whole kinda make the collective choice to not be easy.	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/05/22 05:10 AM
6	Men always being expected to make the first move and approach women, how did that tradition or status-quo originate? i doubt i'm in the only guy in the world who has always hated and resented that That’s true, im mostly talking about making the first move. But to be fair women rarely message first unless they are really into the guy. Almost every girl I hooked up with on tinder, was a girl who messaged me first. And as bad as this sounds, those girls were definitely not as attractive as me. That’s why they felt the need to make the first move on me, and lucky for them it worked	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/05/22 04:50 AM
2	Wanting a relationship Can you be more specific? My gf is sort of different from most girls, in that she doesn’t have the slightest urge to fuck other guys in a relationship. She might say that an actor or actress is hot but that’s it.	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/05/22 04:36 AM
19	Men always being expected to make the first move and approach women, how did that tradition or status-quo originate? i doubt i'm in the only guy in the world who has always hated and resented that Women approach men they are physically attracted to. That’s how my gf met me, she saw me in physics class for weeks on end and eventually we matched on tinder. She messaged first of course. She was already in love basically, just from staring at the back of my head and seeing me laugh. I think that men should maybe lay off on approaching women and see what happens. Worst case, women choose to stay single and sexless rather than do what men have been doing for ages. Best case, women say “I can do…	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/05/22 04:29 AM
3	Men always being expected to make the first move and approach women, how did that tradition or status-quo originate? i doubt i'm in the only guy in the world who has always hated and resented that Facts. My gf messaged me first, saw me first, made the move on me first. In her mind she thinks “I saw him and I got him” but in reality I wanted that to happen. I’d never put effort into a girl who was expecting me to chase. But if a girl puts in a tiny bit of effort towards me I’ll 100% make it easy on her to make moves at her own pace. Most guys are like me tbh	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/05/22 04:26 AM
12	Men always being expected to make the first move and approach women, how did that tradition or status-quo originate? i doubt i'm in the only guy in the world who has always hated and resented that The guys who call girls desperate for that are typically very very attractive and tend to be assholes in general. It’s funny that the “men” that you refer to are a tiny subset of total men, but clearly have the majority of women in their palm. It’s almost like… women only pay attention to a minority of men and ignore the rest? I say this as someone who knows what it’s like to be average or even below average. Most normal guys who are totally ignored by women would do a backflip if a girl came up…	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/05/22 04:24 AM
24	Men always being expected to make the first move and approach women, how did that tradition or status-quo originate? i doubt i'm in the only guy in the world who has always hated and resented that Yeah this is it. At the end of the day men have much much higher sex drives and are probably more interested in women than vice versa. Men approaching women also creates competition where the “best” male genes pass on but both good and bad female genes pass on regardless	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/05/22 04:21 AM
1	Wanting a relationship Do you think you can find someone else? Someone who isn’t hypergamous like her? I think that’s your best option instead of trying for a really unhappy relationship built on a faulty foundation	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/05/22 04:19 AM
8	What is asshole behaviour? I have to agree. The line between arrogance and confidence is often just how good looking the guy is. That being said, some women might find a guy attractive but maybe dislike his personality. This is pretty rare in most cases.	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/05/22 06:03 PM
1	women and men with obvious red flags Pretty much all the things OP said were correct, 1-5. The thing is, women will almost always put physical attractiveness at the top of her priority list, not personality or red flag behavior. Once that looks requirement is met, then she will focus on personality traits and the like. Men do this too, but men are willing to date a much much broader range of women of all shapes colors and sizes. So it basically becomes negligible when you compare it to womens preferences concerning mens looks	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/05/22 05:59 PM
4	women and men with obvious red flags Uhhh no. At least for younger women, looks are basically everything. You can have a great personality, a good social life, hobbies, a good direction for your career, etc but that won’t make up for short stature and an ugly face. It’s pretty brutal out here for this next generation of men. If you’re a good looking dude you can get away with a lot of stuff in a college campus, especially sexual assault. In fact virtually all sexual assault occurs between an attractive, popular man and a woman who …	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/05/22 05:55 PM
1	Most women are taken and the ones who aren’t are usually fresh out of a relationship and don’t want to be bothered/aren’t looking. People say “that just means she wasn’t interested” but that is simply not true. Women do not always jump directly to another man. I agree that this subreddit can be misguided and people here are in a bubble, but I also think that we should give every opinion a fair shot before telling people to “go outside” Like I said, I’m not the normal PPD guy. I have a gf. Ive been in relationships before. I’ve had casual sex. I’ve had experience with women, as an average man or in the past as a below average man. The thing is, the guys I know irl who have sex and get girls say similar things as TRP and whatnot. They don’t even know wh…	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/05/22 01:58 PM
1	People in the manosphere are deeply ungrateful and victims of their own minds Do you even pay attention to the stuff guys say in this sub or at all? You’re making so many strawman arguments	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/05/22 01:34 PM
2	Most women are taken and the ones who aren’t are usually fresh out of a relationship and don’t want to be bothered/aren’t looking. People say “that just means she wasn’t interested” but that is simply not true. Women do not always jump directly to another man. I agree with OP to some extent and I literally have a gf and an active social life	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/05/22 01:31 PM
8	Q4M: What’s your definition of an orbiter? It’s all about the unequal reciprocity. If a guy is spending time and money on a girl and not getting it back, that’s being an orbiter	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/05/22 01:30 PM