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Nothing that you cited gave evidence that “ALL women are ONLY attracted to the top 20% of men.” The sources generally said that women are.... attracted to attractive men (shocker) and that women who like to hook up generally prefer masculine looking men for their hookups, and that masculinity is also associated with infidelity. (it makes sense, women have a lot more options than men do for a one night stand, of course they’ll pick the whoever they think is most attractive stranger available for …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/20 02:24 AM
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I know what proof vs evidence is. nice way of nitpicking my choice of words instead of backing up anything you’re saying. if this is your mindset please just go outside bro
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/20 12:12 AM
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what incredible overgeneralizations with the use of “all.” would love to see you prove your statements.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/20 10:15 PM
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had a stroke trying to read this comment
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/20 08:37 PM
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this isn’t even true. lol. have felt some very powerful attraction to men who were somewhat below average looking because of the chemistry/connection we had.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/20 05:39 AM
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what are these ”interesting traits” that only feminine women have? why would someone less feminine be unloving? why do men have “dead energy?” and the whole bit about black vs. vibrant clothing? nothing wrong with preferring feminine women but there’s a whole lot of odd generalizations here
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/20 07:46 PM
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“Quit smoking” is asking your partner to stop an unhealthy and harmful behavior; the partner will ultimately be benefited if they stop smoking. “Have sex with me or I’ll leave you” is asking your partner to have sex with you when they don’t want it and won’t enjoy it. It’s a recipe for disaster, hurt, and abuse of power. Having sex with someone who doesn’t want it is gross regardless. At that point, just leave and date someone who wants to have sex. seriously.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/20 01:15 AM
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I’m talking more about manospherians who see women who sleep around as subhuman and treat men who sleep around like gods— they make it very personal and they’re very misogynistic. I, however, get that someone with a very high n count is generally not a good match for someone who wants a steady and conservative LTR. That makes sense to me This is pretty much about incels and redpillers with incel minds who just hate women for having sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/20 12:32 PM
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I think that’s somewhat true as well. It goes both ways because good personality and good looks are both pluses/attractive qualities. However, if I knew a person with good looks and a person with a better personality, I’d choose the personality at the end of the day.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/20 03:47 AM
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doesn’t mean that it should happen
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/20 10:18 PM
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just because something makes sense biologically doesn’t mean it isn’t creepy. we are social creatures just as much as we are people with instincts. It’s creepy because 20 year olds were adolescents practically moments ago, while 30+ year olds are in entirely different stages of life. The man would have been grown while the woman was a little girl. Someone the man’s age would be closer to him would be a more compatible partner for him.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/20 09:13 PM
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most men I see in my daily life are probably attractive enough to date if they had the right personality. For me a LOT of initial attraction has to do with style... I’m a fashion fanatic so I probably won’t look twice at most male strangers unless they’ve got a style I like. However, once I get to know someone, the way they dress becomes increasingly less important. Really, after I know them, I cut it off at very unhealthy weight or being very unattractive to me. (height doesn’t matter to me per…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/20 08:33 PM
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they put sex on a pedestal, and yet it somehow subtracts worth from women. They admit out in the open that they believe sex gives men worth/power and takes away women’s worth. Bunch of imhumane, insecure assholes obsessed with women’s “purity.” That’s it.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/20 07:46 PM
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I understand only wanting to be desired by my husband. If I’ve got one man who I’m married to who desires me, I don’t give a damn what any other man thinks. When you’re single, worrying about whether prospects find you attractive or not is tiresome and annoying because everyone has different preferences. Once you’ve got a life partner, it doesn’t matter if other men are attracted to you or not.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/20 02:39 PM
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this IS generally what women want. as a woman who knows plenty of other women this is what we want. generally.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/20 02:11 PM
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a sane response. I know that somehow people are going to find issue with this but you’re right
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/20 02:09 PM
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except that this is entirely pseudoscience and you can’t make sweeping generalizations about women
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/20 11:48 AM
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This isn’t about how much you work out or how fun you are, it’s about your character/heart. It’s fine to find certain people unattractive, but you clearly view people as being subhuman or below you if they’re not as good looking as you. People have health conditions that make them overweight, you don’t know anyone’s life. Human beings are worthy of respect and I think it takes balls to approach someone. The “landwhales” are just as valuable and human as you, shockingly.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/20 01:57 PM
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insulted by “landwhales” approaching you? you sound like an awful fucking person. (this goes for girls who get insulted by below average dudes hitting on them as well.)
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/20 10:26 PM
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women often dress sexy to clubs because nightclubs are considered one of the only settings where that type of clothing is appropriate. socially, what’s slutty during the day might be fine at a nightclub. It’s like wearing a bikini to the beach. Women like to dress a certain way because it makes them feel cute, confident and free. The way that clothes make us feel is HUGE for us. A lot of guys don’t understand that girls have other reasons for dressing up that don’t involve the desire for male at…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/20 09:49 PM
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if a 6’ hot guy shouted at me in the street I would be uncomfortable. If someone (age appropriate) was politely showing interest in a comfortable setting, I wouldn’t be “hostile” no matter what they looked like. even when creepy old men flirt with me I’m polite (screaming on the inside though.) Women are generally socialized to be polite, some women are hostile but that’s not how we’re typically raised to act.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/20 06:40 PM
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define hostile out in public... if you mean unresponsive to street flirting, that’s a defense mechanism. I try to be polite and I wouldn’t be hostile to someone flirting with me if it was someone I knew and was comfortable around.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/20 06:34 PM
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Girl here— amen to all of this. I search for my “type” online because appearance is all you initially have to go off of in that setup. In real life, I’ve liked guys I NEVER would’ve thought I’d be attracted to. OLD can be very frustrating. I’m a hopeless romantic and I’d 100% prefer to meet someone in real life, befriend them and start dating them.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/20 05:05 PM
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who is telling women to have an affair? I’ve never gotten that message
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/20 11:08 PM
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I agree. I think that on a basic, generalizing level, this is true. The thing is, humans are a diverse bunch and quite a few have unique desires that go against evolution (i.e. some disliking children and not wanting them at all, some people being asexual, etc.) Then again, I think that goes without saying. Almost anything like this will be a generalization because there’s always outliers.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/20 04:52 AM
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you don’t speak for all men, sir. majority of men want to get married, I’d think they want a healthy relationship eventually, as well as a lot of sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/20 10:33 PM
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yes, hot men will fuck average women, but who’s to say that hot men are better sex partners than average men? couples get better at having sex over time and also have more intimacy/foreplay, chances are sex with a woman’s LTR partner will be better than the jackhammering quickie with a hot guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/20 10:12 PM
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Why would a guy ever try to manipulate a woman into having sex? yeah, that NEVER happens. /s
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/20 11:59 PM
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again, you’re talking about “these forums,” not the people outside of them. if you’re talking to multiple real life women and they criticize you for being a virgin I’d be surprised.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/20 02:03 PM
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I see. my original comment was about disgust/hatefulness towards guys who are virgins, though, and honestly, she may have just preferred someone with experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/20 06:17 AM
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the top videos on youtube on the redpill have views in the thousands, while the top incel videos have views in the millions. in my experience, I hadn’t heard people talking about TRP outside of reddit, but heard a lot of people talk about incels. Also, only incels have forums dedicated to rape and pedophilia and have tons of insulting names for women. The “incel” insult is not about celibacy.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/20 03:40 AM
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because incels are much more well known then redpillers. anyone who’s fairly young and uses the internet knows what an incel is, I didn’t know what redpillers were until I joined reddit a few months ago.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/20 02:49 AM
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who the fuck are these women? nearly every woman you’ve met in real life has insulted you just for being a virgin? seriously? also, I definitely would not, don’t make assumptions about me.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/20 02:45 AM
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ohhh that makes sense! so just because ancient smart guys were misogynists who lived in a time when everyone held misogynistic beliefs and women were second class citizens who didn’t even have the chance to speak up, that definitely means we should hate women today. Thanks for the insight! Oh, please share with us some of these ancient wisdoms.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/20 12:26 AM
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people don’t use incel as an insult because they’re virgins, they use it as an insult because incels are notoriously misogynistic and hateful. (not all, but a lot.) incel≠virgin
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/20 11:08 PM
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but of course you want to be THE ONE to take it from her. just not anyone else.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/20 11:05 PM
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what woman is disgusted by someone just because they’re a virgin or have a low body count? never heard of that.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/20 11:01 PM
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where from that data are you getting a 50% higher sexlessness rate? 19% isn’t 50% of 30%.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/20 08:47 PM
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please. I don’t even know why I’m going to bother arguing with someone who really doesn’t believe that women don’t care about personality. there is absolutely no scientific evidence of that. also, having celebrity crushes does not equate to real life dating. how the fuck do you believe that only attractive men get a chance? most people get married. just take a look around. I don’t think that women aren’t as shallow as men. both genders can be shallow but you see conventionally homely people in r…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/20 08:31 PM
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it said no sexual activity IN THE PAST YEAR, not sexless. for women it was 19%. wouldn’t call that a “massive” advantage.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/20 08:16 PM
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no. if you’re still using that 80/20 OkCupid study to say that women revolve around “Chad,” please put it to rest. The study showed that women were still messaging men that didn’t fall into the top 20%. Women, believe it or not, can start to find someone very attractive and fall hard for someone who isn’t gorgeously handsome because of their personality. attraction can be much more mental for women and they also have more varied tastes. the girls that I’ve been close friends with have crushed on…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/20 07:34 PM
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no, I don’t. I’m saying women and men both have it hard and they on average have a similar number of partners.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/20 07:23 PM
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having a lot of shallow interest or a partner that just wants to use you is not better than having no partner. also, men have an average of 6 romantic relationships before finding “the one” while women have 5.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/20 06:38 PM
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young woman here, I think it is easier in terms of quantity, but not easier to find someone who doesn’t just want sex or is right for you. Most men don’t have to weed through lots of women who just want sex. I think dating is pretty hard for most people.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/20 05:13 PM
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I am very goofy person and always have been as well, I meant to say that I sometimes use it to command attention (was called a “female class clown”) but usually that’s just the way I am. and as far as women using humor less equating to them being not-as-funny, the fact that women tell a lot more jokes when they’re around groups of women could mean that there’s a lot of jokes you haven’t heard because you’re a guy. Also, I think that even if women use humor less in conversations around men they c…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/20 08:54 PM
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I’ve noticed that in groups too, I honestly think that usually men use humor more consciously and try harder to make people laugh and impress people, whereas women might slip something funny in but care more about the conversation itself. I’m a woman who loves to make people laugh and tries harder than the average woman probably does, and it definitely can be about commanding attention and affirmation. I think a lot of guys are like this and it’s a general personality difference between men and …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/20 07:09 PM
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because women have greater ability to put themselves in someone else’s shoes and get male-specific humor even if they’ve never experienced it. that’s one of women’s strengths, both sexes have certain strengths. when I say gender issues, I really just meant gender-specific, which both male and female comedians do a lot of.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/20 06:33 PM
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it could just be that the vast majority of comedians are male and the female comedians that have found success mainly succeed because they tackle female issues, which are not funny to men, while women are able to laugh at men’s issues that are seen as “default.” I’m not a fan of standup but I think, from what I’ve seen, that men and women are equally funny comedians overall.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/20 06:24 PM
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I think many conservative Christians would be redpill, but I went to school at an evangelical Christian school and I honestly think quite a few would be bluepill. I’d say a mix between redpill/bluepill for conservative Christians and for the typical Christian or a progressive Christian it would be bluepill. The traditional values and ideas of RP are most prevalent in very conservative branches of Christianity, but even then I don’t know if they’d believe that men date down, as “men are visual cr…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/20 06:19 PM
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almost any grocery store or waitress job (which many women work at) requires you to to take out trash and do dirty cleaning.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/20 05:29 PM
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there’s a study that proved that women tell less jokes around men, maybe look into that. on the other hand, there was a study that asked people to anonymously write funny captions that were judged, and men’s/women’s were almost equal in comedic value. Men also make more attempts at being funny than women do, so more jokes land because more jokes are told.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/20 05:23 PM
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I think this is just a construct that meeds to die. someone funny challenges you to be funnier. I would get bored of someone who laughs at my jokes all day and never jokes back. It’s 10x more fun when you’re both funny and can joke together.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/20 05:19 PM
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amen to all of this. this guy just wants an ego inflator.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/20 05:12 PM
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I think it’s boring men who see dating as a competition that do all those things to get laid. I know plenty of men with interests and hobbies of their own that have nothing to do with trying to get women. If someone’s personality and interests are built around what they think will get them some sex, run far away.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/20 05:10 PM
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notice how he said “I like to be the funny guy and I don’t want women to take that away from me.” If that doesn’t reek insecurity I don’t know what does. He really just wants a beautiful, supportive appendage that makes him look better but doesn’t outshine him in any way. Girls, ditch guys like this.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/20 05:02 PM
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I’ve known a handful of guys who had a girlfriend older than them in high school and they kept dating after she graduated and went to college.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/20 11:53 PM
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After doing a bit of searching, here’s what I found, based on scientific studies. -Women actually do better under stressful job interviews because their brains release more oxytocin. -Women on average score higher on IQ tests. -Women are more empathetic/emotionally intelligent. -Women are better at multitasking. -Women live longer and have better immune systems. -Women are more likely to finish college. Tell the many guys I’ve known who want to be loved by a girl more than anything that men only…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/20 10:03 PM
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nope, I’m not. I agree that casual sex and one night stands are transactions that are about sex appeal only because it’s meant to satisfy an urge, (not for me but I’m not judging anyone who does those things) but my point is that people generally want to be valued beyond their sex appeal, and crave love/respect/relationships just as much as they want sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/20 09:03 PM
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My point is that generally men want a relationship/love AND sex. You said that all men, at first, only want sex. I never said that men don’t want sex. There’s a reason why men crave relationships instead of hooking up for the rest of their lives. I’m sure you’d try to argue that this is for biological reasons (settling down and reproducing protecting a family) but many childfree men get married as well! I hear guys talking about how they want a girlfriend to hang out with and love them all the t…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/20 08:59 PM
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I’m sorry, but I disagree with such sweeping generalizations. “All men start by only wanting you for sex” is a stretch. Yes, sexual attractiveness is what grabs most men in, and they end up developing a relationship later on. I’m not denying biology. But what about sexually conservative or religious men, or low sex drive/asexual men? I went to an evangelical christian high school, and kids dated for years without having sex. I’m sure the sexual pull was there, but “ONLY WANTING YOU FOR SEX” is a…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/20 07:30 PM
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No, most women don’t want to be objectified. OBJECTIFYING means reducing someone to their sexual value. Most women don’t even want attractive men to reduce them to their sexual value. Most women want to be seen as humans. The only instance where some objectification would be welcome would be hookups/onlyfans etc, but even then women want to be respected on a basic level outside of sexual transactions.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/20 05:38 PM
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I disagree. I think some women want to be objectified within a certain space, like onlyfans etc. Objectification means devaluing you as a person. I and most of the women I know don’t want to be objectified by attractive men. We want them to think we’re attractive and admire us, not look at us as a walking pair of tits. Most women get upset if they realize their boyfriend only wants them for sex, and ONLY WANTING SOMEONE FOR SEX is what objectification is.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/20 05:33 PM
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You can also meet a s/o through a friend that knows someone who could be a good match for you. At the end of the day, though, I think the ideal (for me) is becoming friends with someone first and then transitioning into more.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/20 07:59 PM
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eh, not necessarily talking about underage girls’ tastes, like 18 to early twenties. the talk of timothee chalamet was in my class of mostly 18 year olds.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/20 10:26 AM
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interesting. yep, I’m one of those few women who is not at all attracted to liam hemsworth or chris evans. majority of male celebrities considered “handsome” are completely unappealing to me because I actually find masculinity to be a turnoff. think I just have a natural inclination towards femininity, I’m not even really into the pretty boys that are popular with teens, but I’ve had a thing for very androgynous men my whole life. I’ll have to look into what you’re saying about the pill, I haven…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/20 12:36 AM
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I’ve definitely noticed that. I’m alternative and it seems like almost all of the other emo/gothy/punky chicks like feminine guys.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/20 11:36 PM
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so, is the point you’re trying to make that men who want to be masculine are trying to attract girls who want masculine men? that’s fair.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/20 11:04 PM
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Yes, I definitely would. You don’t know me. I’m bisexual and I don’t give a flying fuck about gender roles. I’ve always liked short guys. I’m not the norm but there’s always an exception to the norm.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/20 11:01 PM
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Interesting. I’m bi as well (heteromantic bisexual) and I too am attracted to feminine women but I like my men quite feminine as well—long hair, makeup, no facial hair, men in skirts, all that. My theory is that the growing acceptance of LGBTQ and its influence on culture has a part in the normalization/popularization of androgyny.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/20 10:56 PM
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what about all the high school/college relationships where the girl is much more attractive? that has nothing to do with money.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/20 10:07 PM
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no, I’m 5’8 and a half. I genuinely like short guys. I would date someone 5 feet tall or 7 feet tall, I don’t give a shit about height. Especially when I was younger I really had a thing for short guys because I found them cute.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/20 09:56 PM
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Would dump his ass because I’m childfree.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/20 09:52 PM
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1) love making jokes and being entertained, so it’s really important to me that we have a similar sense of humor and can go back and forth. 2) Some things in common, music taste etc. 3) I need to be physically attracted to him in some way. He doesn’t have to be conventionally attractive or tall, just attractive to me. 4) Basically intelligent. 5) Kind and empathic. 6) Similar beliefs. The rest is kind of a list of “don’t wants,” ex. I’m not attracted to masculine guys or guys who are really into…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/20 09:51 PM
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I think it’s a matter of averages. men’s sex drive is USUALLY more intense, but 20% of wives have higher libidos than their husbands. everyone’s sex drive is different, but the majority of men have higher sex drives.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/20 09:45 PM
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I think the 80% 20% thing really just represents online dating. Women are usually approached in real life and they get matches very easily so they feel like they’ve got nothing to lose on dating sites and they swipe right on the most attractive guys. Men, on the other hand, are usually the approachers so they’ll settle a bit on dating sites to maximize their odds. Online, you’re forced to quickly judge someone based on their looks. In real life, when you get to know people, personality is much m…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/20 09:41 PM
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Honestly, I’ve noticed that more “progressive” and alternative/artsy women often like feminine men. Some are quite feminine and beautiful but they want a pretty boyfriend themselves. Many of them are also bisexual, though.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/20 09:34 PM
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not all women are lying about that. most of my crushes have been shorter than me by an inch or two.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/20 09:31 PM
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