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I keep hearing this and I think it’s silly because basically it boils down to whether or not your conversational partner is comfortable with the topic and how it’s said. And there’s social cues that indicate if they’re comfortable with it - body language, reciprocation, being the aggressor in a conversation. And those are important skills to learn and what defines the creepy dude, which are changeable. It’s totally possible to flirt like mad with a workmate (workhusbands/workwives) and have it n…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/18 05:05 PM
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I mean that has a pretty dramatic social effect between first causing a resurgence in preventable diseases and second in claiming autism is this terrible thing to be avoided at all cost but yeah. I think this is just a fundamental difference in whether you think it’s an acceptable risk. I don’t think it is, you do and that’s you choice to make.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/18 04:58 PM
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I don’t disagree those things are sometimes taking care of a very small risk. For the flu vaccine though, that’s a harmless precaution because it’s a single shot, doesn’t have long lasting repercussions. Whereas being afraid in public/out at night/scared of women you work with impacts social relationships and contributes to a gender divide. It has a consequence societally and personally.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/18 04:34 PM
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I think it’s perfectly logical but it does stem from the sexist basis of “men are abusers women are hysterical accusers.” Perhaps I’m too optimistic, but I have more faith in my coworkers to be well-intentioned and reasonable in their gender interactions and to have a case-by-case basis for how they navigate social situations, instead of a blanket gender based ban.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/18 04:07 PM
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All men aren’t creepy. But the ones that act creepy or get defensive about their behavior and decide that not interacting with women instead of making a good faith effort to buy into the social contract between people, especially at a workplace, are a problem that should be addressed. The solution to creepy behavior isn’t avoiding women, it’s fixing the behavior to be a better person. Everybody can work on better behavior, communication, and interacting with others.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/18 03:56 PM
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It’s sexist because it’s based on a view that women are inherently dangerous to men, which they’re not. Men’s behavior being offensive and claiming it is women who are the problem is foisting off all blame for bad behavior. It’s blaming women instead of looking at both parties. Sometimes sure, only the opposing party is bad, but instead of blaming all women for the actions of one, it’s better to take it on a case by case basis.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/18 03:26 PM
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That’s obviously sexist to claim all women are those things - women are not “entitled” in asking men to treat them in a professional manner at work instead of full on avoiding them. The fact is men altering their workplace behavior because it’s easier for them to just avoid women than learning how to interact with them professionally is a problem. If interacting with women is consistently hard, then it’s probably because the way they interact with women is somehow problematic and offensive, and …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/18 03:17 PM
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That’s a risk choice you make for yourself. Rape accusations are very serious. I think the chances of having somebody make a credible accusation + the amount of harm are smaller than risky behavior like driving (only takes one texter or drunk driver to paralyze you) especially in the workplace.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/18 03:09 PM
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That would be the unintentionally creepy person saying this, the man in this situation but could be a woman, and yes it’s predicated on the idea they can communicate issues well. I’m not sure I understand the question - are you asking if a woman can communicate issues in a good way with a coworker? Of course any good communicator can do that, woman or man. If they genuinely didn’t intend to be creepy, of course either offending party is better off apologizing and fixing the communication issue. …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/18 02:24 PM
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I mean it’s an overall societal benefit of women and men creating a new social norm so men can fear for their work and social lives less and women can be less on guard around men. Better gender relations overall and over time. But if you don’t think there’s a benefit to that, it sounds like we have a fundamental difference of what we believe is valuable and if that’s the case, I doubt we’ll agree. But I appreciate you discussing this nonetheless!
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/18 02:00 PM
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Women not telling the difference between creepy and not creepy? That’s a fair concern, but I guess I have more faith in a miscommunication being able to be handled by two people who are genuinely trying to be not creepy. I don’t think it’s hard to just communicate “I’m so sorry, I didn’t mean it that way and I’ll be more conscious of it in the future.” “I’m sorry I assumed the worst of it, thank you for altering your behavior and I’ll give you the benefit of the doubt in the future.”
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/18 01:56 PM
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Creepers aren’t just a women’s problem - a woman by herself can’t change creepy behavior, she can only deal with it and control her own actions. Only the creeper can do that. And the only way a creeper will stop is if there’s social pressure to have a better behavior, and that plan needs men to help. Men aren’t required to help- they’re welcome to avoid it, but it doesn’t fix the problem. It just maintains the status quo. You don’t have to do anything. You don’t have to help or interact with wom…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/18 01:52 PM
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Kind of sexist, sure. Avoiding women because those men are afraid they can’t differentiate creepy behavior from not creepy behavior doesn’t solve the problem, it foists it on women to deal with creepy. It also assumes the rate of false accusations is pretty high, so depending on your stats avoiding women is reasonable or not. Basically if the men are avoiding women to avoid learning to not be creepy, perhaps not sexist but certainly a red flag for a sexist person. If they’re actually doing it ou…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/18 01:25 PM
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No shame for wanted a young gal. Yes shame for saying a woman's only value is youth and fertility. You can say that you prefer young women and still admit that an older woman can have value like a nice personality, emotional stability, sharp wit, awesome hobbies or skills, or a good career even if you'd personally only date younger gals because you like youth. Now, personally, I do judge older people that go after much younger people. I tend to think less of their emotional maturity if they date…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/16 01:22 PM
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Yes Yes No Yes Yes Yes, but that's as far as it went, dating. I found I wasn't attracted to him as he was too built. Yes No Yes No
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/16 06:02 PM
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Excellent, thank you for the information.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/16 11:00 PM
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Minor thing, but "most of the work" isn't true. One of the things that's very common in het relationships is "second shift," where the woman is also working full time also ends up doing the majority of the work in a household. There's been some studies if you google it.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/16 06:29 PM
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If the amount of gay fanfic written and consumed by women is any indicator, they're alright. I'm personally beyond super on board with bisexual dudes and would prefer all my relationships have a healthy understanding that who they sleep with has not bearing on their gender or my perception of their gender.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/16 03:23 AM
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So, okay. That phrase is honest, because nobody deserves sex. Sex shouldn't be a reward for good behavior, it should be something a couple does because they're sexually attracted to each other and enjoy the intimacy and the emotional closeness sex can bring. Nothing you do entitles you to sex - not your relationship, past sex, being helpful in a relationship. However, you can't just say "you're not entitled to sex" as a response to any question about sexual mismatch. It ignores that there are se…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/16 05:04 PM
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Shit man she's my biggest crush. Such a cool athlete and person.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/15 03:15 PM
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Half a lemon was used as a diaphragm to great effect even in ancient jewish communities, and the juice acted as a spermicide. That's a decent birth control method, and queen anne's lace and rue can be used as a daily birth control or emergency to induce abortion. There's lots of herbal methods that have an OK rate of prevention for the time, or can help with abortion.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/15 05:27 PM
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Sex isn't largely regarded as just a recreational activity when you're in a relationship - it's more like couple bonding time. That's a flawed premise to assume it's like bowling. And if a couple decides it IS like bowling, they can have an open relationship. The problem is one party can't decide sex is like bowling when the other one considers it the way they bond with their partner, and then the bowling partner doesn't inform the other partner even knowing that it will upset them. That's calle…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/15 04:46 PM
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Because I'd say most people view it as intimacy and connecting within the confines of the relationship, and cheating isn't just sex. It also comes with the sense that the cheater lied about his actions or intentions either by omission or flat-out, which is the real betrayal.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/15 04:12 PM
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Yep. I almost exclusively date guys at my height or under it.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/15 11:53 PM
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Context appropriate is largely what determines it. If I'm at work, no, it's harrassment and I can't get away. If I'm on a public street just trying to get from point a to b, no. Otherwise, it's kind of subjective from there and you're welcome to try. Just don't get butthurt if the timing comes across badly - sometimes even in a social setting ladies have agendas of their own and they don't include male attention. It's mostly that there seems to be debate on both sides on when it's context approp…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/15 06:43 PM
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I'd rather have a guy I'm compatible with, who likes and gets along with my family, someone who fights with me in a good way to achieve consensus, same libido, all that personality things that affect LTRs, but since you've got a choice that doesn't factor in that here, I'd rather have a broke attractive guy. I've always liked the idea of being the breadwinner and having a stay at home husband that cares for the dogs.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/15 03:55 AM
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You can still get the shot, provided you come up clean. Discuss it with your doctor and see if that's what you need. Ultimately, if you think it helps, and if it puts your mind at ease to use that as a marker, it's your issue. We all use different methods to determine partners, and yours can be partner count via health risks. But it's their right to not answer a mostly medically irrelevant question when you ask, especially if they've given you the more relevant information. I think it's unreason…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/15 02:49 PM
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It's a tenuous connection that can be heavily influenced by the details - condom use, partner safety, how often they're tested, etc. Not only that, but as I stated before, the Gardisil shot is a vaccine that prevents HPV, so if she has that, she's good to go on all types that cause health problems, as I understand it. You should get that vaccine as well if that's a concern - it is now available to men and will prevent problems for you. It is quite painful and done in three doses, but absolutely …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/15 02:18 PM
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That's your right to ask, and their right to deny, but the medical data is relevant to STD risks, the partner count irrelevant to STD risks if you have the medical data. For the purposes of this discussion, asking for partner count on the basis of STD risk is not a good argument or method. Everybody is allowed to have preferences and yours can be related to partner count. But to argue that you want partner count on the basis of STD risk doesn't make sense, which is what I understand this thread …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/15 01:20 PM
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While I respect your preference, that is exactly the opposite point of what I was trying to say. If you want to date virgins, sweet, but there's better ways to confirm no stds, like tests. People can have HIV due to pregnant mothers getting infected.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/15 11:33 PM
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I mean, I don't care about partner counts at all, but everyone is entitled to have preferences. It just seems to me, that while the STD risk may be higher, we have way better, more direct, and safer methods of asking about and working around this particular issue without even bringing up partner count. With documentation, so lying isn't an issue. If we want to know their partner count, we shouldn't have to use STD risk as an excuse.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/15 09:38 PM
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If you care about stds, the only thing you need to ask is "it's been this long since my last encounter, and this long since my clean results." If the window hasn't been long enough to show, or she hasn't beenvtested recently, it's up to you to decide if it's worth the risk. As for HPV, that's a valid point, and they no longer test for that in general women's health checkups because of how common it is, but most women in my part of the US got the Gardisil vaccines which prevent most strains of HP…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/15 09:08 PM
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I thought this was supposed to be mocking both, as it used the MRA name but it showed all the dumb methods that Feminism typically uses, but maybe I looked too far into it.
/r/MensRights12/02/15 10:56 PM
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You're right - their opinions matter. If their opinions on feminism are just to cause an uproar, which according to the original post they were, that's not valid. We're MRA - we don't object to feminism just to hurt feminist feelings. We object because we are damaged by the extreme parts of feminism and we aren't going to sit idly by while a damaging movement steamrolls the society we live in. If we supported a 4chan raid becaude it agrees with us, which is a small subset voting more often than …
/r/MensRights19/11/14 04:31 AM
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This was the result of a 4chan raid, and doesn't reflect actual views, unfortunately. Both bossy and feminist were part of that raid.
/r/MensRights18/11/14 11:50 PM
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What about Anthony Weiner? Women don't look at naked men like men look at women, but at the same time, nude pictures still have outdated moral implications. They do happen, but people only react as an indicator of morality, so they only care about politicians really.
/r/MensRights02/09/14 09:09 PM
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Then it should be gender neutral "amateurs" who are just playing for fun and for maybe a little "winner" ribbon and professionals. No need to have segregated groups.
/r/MensRights03/07/14 04:34 PM
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Kinda proved my point there, though. Women aren't able to earn what they need to become professional without tournaments. If the 50% of gamers is correct, then why do we still have ANY divided games? If it isn't, then what's the harm in added women into male tournaments and getting rid of women's tournaments, or adding men into women's tournaments? It's a silly distinction that I'm surprised has to be made in e-sports.
/r/MensRights03/07/14 04:10 PM
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Tournaments can be money and even a decent living for winning teams and players. Women don't have a reason to become professional gamers if they're limited to less games in tournaments and thusly money making opportunities. It doesn't matter how few women or men would participate in one game or another - both should have the opportunity to play in any group there are enough players to support - men should be able to enter tekken tournament, women in hearthstone. If there are segregated groups, a…
/r/MensRights03/07/14 03:35 PM
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It is also a larger risk to hire people with heart disease, obese people, and people with a family history of cancer. Furthermore, mental health is not covered as much by insurance, so mental problems don't increase premiums to the employer as much as heart disease. It's also a risk to hire younger workers, but we still do it because some industries benefit from having a young, trainable workforce. I understand what you are saying, but in the larger scheme, allowing this kind of prejudicial logi…
/r/MensRights14/06/14 02:52 AM
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If they are medicated as needed, they can absolutely be a great employee. It's an illness that can be overcome, just like any other chronic illness. Would you reject a veteran with PTSD for a job as well, or is it just bipolar? How about seasonal effective disorder? I'm curious to know where the line is drawn for this situation. I don't see why this is idiotic to hire people with mental illness. If they don't have jobs, and can't get hired, they are on welfare or on the streets. I think it's saf…
/r/MensRights13/06/14 10:10 PM
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Yes, but often situations like that can be controlled by a combination of pain meds and birth control. Birth control is great because it evens the hormones out, causing less serious cramps. It doesn't work for every woman, but it certainly fixes many cases.
/r/MensRights13/06/14 08:29 PM
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They can't ask about that though, because it's a medical issue, and they can't discriminate against mentally ill people either according to federal law. They are less likely to be hired only if they reveal they have that issue, which opens the employer up to lawsuits, whereas this is presuming every female suffers from debilitating periods, which sounds untrue, and being female is something visible that can't be hidden.
/r/MensRights13/06/14 08:23 PM
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What you are describing is not a normal period, and most women would be given hormonal birth control that would nip that in the bud. This is very medically controllable.
/r/MensRights13/06/14 05:43 PM
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I agree - equal pay for equal work is fair, and nobody should be given personal allowances others are not, especially when a coworker has to pick up the slack. That's ridiculous, regardless of gender. On the other hand, not everybody has a painful period, and pain does not indicate a lack of productivity. I don't really think there is a link, and I'd like to see some kind of study regarding productivity and time of the month. Furthermore, the largest argument against the wage gap myth is related…
/r/MensRights13/06/14 05:20 PM
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Is there any proof that women have reduced productivity during that week? I feel like we're operating off a flawed premise. There are women who are barely effected and women who are very effected by their periods, and ones on birth control, etc. Furthermore, because this is a biological trait that can't be changed, it worries me to think that this same argument could be held against people with bipolar or other mental illness. Even something like Seasonal Affective Disorder would qualify. I don'…
/r/MensRights13/06/14 04:43 PM
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