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No idea.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/14 02:06 AM
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It's a side effect of the increase in subscribers. Eventually TRP will split along some lines. It might well be newbies vs non.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/14 01:40 AM
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Are you sure it wasn't Dungeons and Dragons? It's like Satan worship, I heard from someone that some kids killed somebody because of it. Or rock and roll music? It's loud and disrespectful. How about that "reefer" that the Mexicans are selling to white kids to make them crazy?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/14 01:31 AM
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Probably not, the subscriber count is so low that statistically you're not going to meet one. Of those subscribers you'd need to meet someone dumb enough to admit it to you, since it's incredibly non PC. If you were to mention it in meatspace to me I'd feign ignorance, express polite curiosity, agree with your opinion, then change the subject.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/14 01:27 AM
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People have rational strategies, but are also driven by emotion. Given that feeling good is a value in itself, it's rational to pursue good feelings. Hell, sometimes it's rational to be irrational. Sorry to burst your bubble but TRP isn't being inconsistent, they're just ignoring the things that are of no interest to them. Rational ignorance.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/14 01:12 PM
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The point is that it's unlikely to persuade much of anyone. You're making an argument from the wrong part of the hierarchy of needs. A person of a more sarcastic bent would note that you lack empathy.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/14 03:01 AM
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Nobody in TRP cares what you're inclined take seriously, only what you're inclined to take in what hole.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/14 02:47 AM
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I think You misspelled "feel". Fact is that TRP works - more or less - which is more than can be said for the amalgam of social justice nonsense and 200 proof vitriol that people like you serve up. That's the nutshell. TRP works. If you had a better alternative TRP would dissolve in months. But that alternative doesn't exist, and you wouldn't promote it if it did.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/14 02:25 AM
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You weren't as kind and respectful as you thought. Being kind and respectful aren't the only things you need for attraction. AKA, the men weren't attractive and need to take action to change that themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/14 02:11 AM
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getting laid isn't the end-all-be-all of happiness. Tell that to someone who can't, and see what their reaction is.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/14 02:02 AM
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Of course, the only reason I have to study TRP practices is because of the way the world was laid at my feet.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/14 02:01 AM
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The problem that you face is that you don't offer anything except that you aren't TRP.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/14 01:52 AM
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It's crazy that a brand new gender relations movement didn't spring up from the ground fully formed.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/14 01:47 AM
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People like me don't have to find common ground with people like you. Sure, because you have popular culture and the legal system on your side. For now.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/14 01:39 AM
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Alpha fucks/beta bucks is a rational strategy. Branch swinging is a rational strategy. Divorce rape is a rational strategy. Like many game theoretic ideas, they aren't necessarily nice, but they work.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/14 01:37 AM
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The people I've met who are attractive, smart, good with women, charismatic, but with no empathy are unhappy, fucked up people in my experience. Lol. The typical guy TRP attracts is not charismatic nor good with women, yet he's still unhappy. TRP gives him tools to fix those first two. What do you have to offer? "You might not be happy after you start getting laid". Most guys are going to take their chances with that one.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/14 01:32 AM
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Complaining on the internet is easier than picking heavy things up and putting them down again. blue pillers cannot be blamed for thinking these whiners represent TRP Plus, such thinking fits their narrative.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/14 01:28 AM
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This post was incredibly low effort, prior to its edit.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/14 01:20 AM
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"Here's my opinion, go". Looking for debate/discussion on this, not "go lurk moar", If you're not familiar with the base TRP material then you aren't competent to discuss it.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/14 02:21 PM
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Sure.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/14 01:57 PM
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but it's not about withholding sex Sure, that's just coincidence. What do you think about the idea of her making herself sexually available despite the fact she's all pouty? E: autocorrect
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/14 01:56 PM
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So they're having sex from separate rooms?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/14 03:26 AM
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I tried TRP based on the reports of success from others. I had success of my own. And, regardless of that answer, does this mean that you necessarily believe that RP concepts (like, "all women are such-and-such") are true? TRP is more or less true. I'm sure there are exceptions, but more or less is good enough. then I'm interested to see how this produces universal or near-universal statements TRP produces statements that are good enough for me. They're good enough for others as well. I suspect …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/14 03:25 AM
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You have a misconception of TRP views on hypergamy. Now I know you have the disclaimer in your post that you read TRP and understand it and don't want to be corrected on your opinions. But the deal is that TRP accepts hypergamy as part of the nature of women. The question is, will she stay loyal to the man she married in the face of it? Well she resist those impulses? That's what TRP really hates - not that the woman wants to go on a business trip, get tipsy, and blow the VP, but that she does i…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/14 02:45 AM
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personal judgments That one.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/14 02:37 AM
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Sure, the sound of hoofbeats might mean a zebra is coming. Just like a high power career woman might be pleasant and feminine. Probably not though. hypergamy The key point you miss is fidelity.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/14 02:35 AM
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I'll be your huckleberry. The primary difference is the social acceptability of women withholding sex from men. Examples: "he's in the dog house/sleeping on the couch". This thread with bleeding hearts aflutter about dread game. The reaction to anyone suggesting that women ought to be sexually available to their husbands ("nobody owes you sex"). In an ideal world the answer to both is exactly what y'all are saying: don't legally hitch yourself to someone. That way, if/when they go frigid, you ca…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/14 02:12 AM
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So, logic would ask, if you don't want a woman who is with you for your money, why would you be "not interested in" the only women who aren't going to be with you for your money? What your "logic" fails to consider is that there are more things that are attractive than just a lack of being a gold digger. Career women tend to lack many of those things.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/14 01:41 AM
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If, as a woman, you educate yourself, find a job, make money, and are capable of living independently, then that is seen as "unfeminine". Successful women aren't necessarily unfeminine but they often are. Personality traits that lead to career success such as aggressiveness aren't feminine. The time a career woman spends padding her resume are the youngest and most attractive of her life. So when the ball busting VP decides at 35 that she wants to get a man, she's competing with 22 year old Appl…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/14 01:36 AM
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Let's define the goal as satisfying sexual relationships. Let's define working as attaining that goal. Let's define a lame guy as a male that doesn't know how to attain that goal.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/14 01:06 AM
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Then the comparison is irrelevant. Glad you can share your feelings.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/14 09:30 AM
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Show me something that works better. TRP is more or less a decent toolkit for lame guys to fix themselves. Note that this is about as low as the bar can be set.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/14 07:40 AM
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Oh, so are you saying that your 20 years of experience as a married woman isn't relevant to a male sexual strategy with a bias towards casual sex? You might be interested to know that TRP just created a long term relationship post flair. he claims it was love. And what's the grapevine say?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/14 07:33 AM
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But that guy didn't even respond to half the points I made man. I stopped at the first one I could blow up. You spent enough time defending that nonsense to showcase what you're made of. Make a better post next time, you'll get a better response.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/14 07:27 AM
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Lol. Lookit you.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/14 07:18 AM
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And I'd argue the way TRP acts towards women (as described above) is also undeserved. Likewise, something undeserved is not synonymous with pedestalizing. Look, you had this grand idea, you were gonna stick it to TRP good and hard. You came in, made some arguments, got blowed up. Just pack it in already man. Stop grasping at straws.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/14 12:45 AM
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A key part of pedestalizing is that it's undeserved. Some random woman shouldn't be looked up to because she doesn't deserve it. There's plenty more Applebees waitresses where she came from.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/14 12:39 AM
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Generalizations are useful for oversimplifying very complex arguments. They are not useful for constructing rigid social theories that affect the lives of actual people. Any practice based on a social theory affects the lives of actual people, by definition. Any social theory is necessarily based on generalization since it can't account for everyone. What you have left is 'rigid', which is mighty thin gruel. Consent is not black and white, but lack of a no is not a yes and a pressured yes is not…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/14 12:35 AM
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No, that's an accurate summary of what you said. I can see it from here.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/14 12:28 AM
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If it wasn't then why does TRP upvote so many posts about why they often have [potentially offensive content] and why it isn't actually that bad? So you're saying that TRP encourages offensive content in order to avoid being offensive? How does that work?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/14 11:16 PM
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I don't know why I had a hard time understanding women. Now that I have a toolkit that more or less works I don't think about it much. Like many people I'm pretty instrumental. Acting like women are a different species wouldn't mean pedestalizing them any more than acting like cats are a different species would mean pedestalizing them. You should consider the origin of the phrase "putting pussy on a pedestal". A 'pedestal' is a raised platform, for instance one that holds an object of worship. T…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/14 11:09 PM
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otherwise they simply view you as weird extremists … because if there's one thing TRP tries to do, it's to avoid looking like weird extremists. They rigorously police their subreddit for content and tone to avoid offending outsiders. Doubling down on a crap argument doesn't work, but it is hilarious.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/14 11:03 PM
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Ask questions, get honest answers you don't like, pout like a child.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/14 10:58 PM
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A poker book I once read made a distinction between empathy and sympathy. Empathy means knowing how other people are feeling, sympathy means doing something to help them. Of course the poker player wants plenty of empathy but no sympathy. I think a similar distinction can be made here. For example, you can know that a single mom wants a new baby daddy, but not be the one that wifes her up.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/14 10:54 PM
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why do you believe women are harder to understand than men? Don't know. Is acting like they're a different species not putting them on a pedestal, something TRP claims to hate? No.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/14 10:49 PM
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It's pretty fucking obvious they care very much about their image, even if they intentionally make their image "dark" and supa edgy. But you conclude that saying that women are inferior would be the one thing that would be too far?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/14 10:47 PM
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Yeah they think a bit differently but they're hardly difficult to work out. Speaking only for myself, I had tons of problems figuring out what women want.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/14 10:41 PM
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While the words are rarely spoken outright within the subreddit (that would make them look bad) Your conclusion that TRP cares about its image is pretty obviously wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/14 10:31 PM
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I hve been happily married for over twenty years. How are your qualifications? Oh wow. The next time I want to get my claws in some dude for the long term, I'll call you. According to TRP Somebody delivered you some dirt on what happened. You don't want tell, so my guess is that it's both juicy and relevant. Hmm, two partners - was it something sexual? Does she peg him?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/14 10:24 PM
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1: Generalizations are very useful. As far as the rest goes, your hurt feelings aren't any kind of point at all. 2: Either "consent isn't black and white", or no means no and yes means yes. You need to pick one, because right now you're contradicting yourself. 3: Sure - just like you. Maybe one of your partners faked their enthusiastic consent to you. Maybe they really didn't want sex with you, but did it anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/14 10:04 PM
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There are only terms for them in highly misogynistic groups such as TRP. You mean to say, "only in groups that discuss heterosexual male sexual strategy". Consent isn't black and white Exactly. No doesn't always mean no. Yet it took you awhile to get to this admission. Moreover, TRP teaches men this, teaches them how to tell fake no from real no, and teaches them how to turn no into yes. Because let's face it - nobody else is. That is a grave mistake if you're wrong about what she wants you to d…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/14 07:24 PM
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you have had a conversation about her kinks and what she likes No, she can't talk about sex, she just shuts down. Hell, when I first took her pants off she said that we shouldn't do this. I told her that we should and continued to escalate. That's an example of LMR right there. The difference between that 'no' and previous no's she'd given me is that this no wasn't followed by her putting clothes back on and leaving. That's what I mean by subtleties. You don't want to acknowledge that such thing…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/14 06:04 PM
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if you have sex with someone who says no to sex So my GF has a mild kink that she likes to say "no" and "I'm a good girl" and suchlike during foreplay and likes to have her legs pushed open as she tries to hold them closed. She's saying no but means yes. We've never talked about this specifically. According to you that makes me a rapist. Human sexuality has a large amount of ambiguity and nuance to it - 'no' doesn't always mean no. No might mean yes, it might mean 'not yet', it might mean 'I wan…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/14 05:13 PM
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Because I've told you what attracts me to a man, but you dismissed it because you apparently know what I want better than I do. Nobody cares about you, doll. Nor any other woman in particular. It's about what works in general. In general, being confident, forward, high SMV (well dressed, fit, affluent, tall, etc.) is attractive to women. In general, the opposite things are not attractive. TRP is NOT qualified to give women advice. Right. So I don't give it and I'd advise you to not listen to it.…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/14 04:11 PM
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That's a fair point. One of the Mythbusters guys said something along the lines of "the difference between science and just fucking around is writing it down". Careful recordkeeping isn't a priority for TRP.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/14 03:58 PM
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I didn't really say that Right, you implied it. Then when pressed you back off. , TRP does advocate for rape, and that's the moral equivalent of rape. Ok, so that's one thing. That's probably the only thing. I talk about this all the time, and would rather not get into it now AKA, 'dude I could totally do that but don't want to'. am I allowed to criticize TRP/Sexual Strategy on moral terms Go ahead.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/14 02:14 PM
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Rapey isn't rape. Else you'd say "that's rape". Rapey is a way to implicate but not condemn. "marital rape isn't real" I don't agree with that quote. don't see the moral implications of the hate group they've decided to associate with. Good thing you're so calm and unbiased, it helps me see the errors of my ways. If you were spitting wild hyperbole I'd probably flip the bozo bit on you and move along.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/14 02:05 PM
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Being aware that women are encouraged to do such things is useful. Should they do such things? I don't see what the problem is. Should they use such short words to describe it? I don't care.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/14 01:38 PM
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because we have settled the issue about women who say it about men. I didn't realize that. Can you remind me what conclusion I came to about women who say it to men?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/14 01:14 PM
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OK, so what now? Which parts of TRP do you have a problem with, and more importantly, how are those the moral equivalent of rape? Please be specific on both.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/14 01:11 PM
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Nobody in this sub Turns out that there's a wider world than just this subreddit. It might further surprise you that those things are actually more influential than this subreddit.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/14 01:04 PM
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I'm not tone policing, I'm engaging in taxonomy. I think said benefit of doubt is warranted, because you're having a hard time telling shit from Shinola. What else has you perplexed?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/14 05:10 AM
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The humor is lost on you. Pearls before swine, and all of that. My bad. And I guess I just have to take it on faith that this works for y'alls. Depends on how much work you want to do. Now you (the specific you) just want to lay down some transparent implications and sneer. But you (the general you) could generate your own sexual strategy for heterosexual men that works better than TRP, and avoids all of the things from TRP that make you feel bad. Shall I hold my breath and wait for that latter …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/14 05:07 AM
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A man who quotes another's wisdom has none of his own to add -- Anonymous I'm certain that red pill ideas work better for me than what I did before. They're less wrong than everything else I've looked at. I couple that with a fair number of other men reporting the same. Do you have something better? Honestly, now.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/14 04:20 AM
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The problem is that what women say they want in a man and what they react well to are two different things. If women were honest with what they wanted TRP wouldn't exist. And by honest I don't mean to say there's intentional deception - I think that women honestly believe what they say. Now I'm really confused as to the reason you are even on this sub. Telling my reasons would interfere with the results.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/14 04:08 AM
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That's fair. Thanks!
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/14 04:01 AM
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I'm only trying to win tactical engagements.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/14 03:50 AM
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my experience tells me that TRP is not true for the vast majority of people All of it? Really? Do you understand the scope of your claim? I'm probably old enough to be your mother I was born closer to 1970 than 1980. How old are you, Mother? have given up on dating entirely TRP acknowledges the existence of cat ladies. Celibate chicks aren't a major focus though. Explain this to me in TRP terms. Not sure. What do the people involved say happened? There'll be clues there, not the truth of course.…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/14 03:48 AM
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The point of such manipulation is that the manipulee is not aware of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/14 03:26 AM
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Sorry, did you have a point of some kind to make here?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/14 03:24 AM
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You tell me if TRP's advice to women is worth anything or not. I just told you that I'm not competent to judge it. I'd much prefer a new fuck buddy every month than a new boyfriend. Then I guess you aren't competent to judge TRP's advice for women either?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/14 03:24 AM
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Lol. I ask for a refutation and you deliver name calling. Should I give you the benefit of the doubt and assume that you can't tell those apart?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/14 03:19 AM
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If there was a refutation it would stand on its own. Instead we're talking about the word champ.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/14 07:58 PM
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Unfortunately, unilateral disarmament is only a good strategy when the stronger side convinces the weaker one to do it first. And then it's only good for the stronger side. For obvious reasons.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/14 07:56 PM
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My response yeah, you'll fail to convince people, because it's trivial to show a reasonable possibility otherwise. Because, yeah sure, everyone might be ignoring those articles and books. Might. And it's clear to everyone reading this which of the two of us is more upset.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/14 07:53 PM
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I hold that the opinions of women as to what attracts men is far more valuable than vice versa. Women face a bit of a problem though. TRP has a heavy slant towards casual sex, since women are the gatekeepers of sex. But men are the gatekeepers of commitment, and women can't accumulate nearly as much collective experience about commitment. You can't marry a new dude every month. Perhaps you can start such a community for women. You at least have your experience with obtaining a committed relation…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/14 07:49 PM
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Yet, you start with railing against men saying this about women, despite the fact that women saying this about men is far more prevalent. Your egalitarianism is coming awfully late - basically after the discrepancy was pointed out to you. I think that your motivation here was dislike for TRP, and now that your piece has been exposed as hypocritical, you're trying to kick some sand over it.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/14 07:40 PM
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That's the problem of women who listen to them. Similar to the men who listen to what women say, as opposed to watching what women do. In general women respond favorably to things that they say they don't. That's why what you say is not relevant.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/14 07:33 PM
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Just because an opinion is different doesn't mean that it has inherent value. Suppose that I had an opinion about some women's thing like menstruation. You'd be right to dismiss my opinions because I don't know what the fuck I'm talking about. I have an opinion but it's by definition rooted in ignorance. TRP is about heterosexual male sexual strategy. If you're not a man who has dated women I'm going to severely discount what you have to say.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/14 07:20 PM
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As has been pointed out multiple times in this thread, it's acceptable in mainstream media for women to train men like dogs. So, what do you suggest? Unilateral disarmament by men, in the hopes than women follow suit?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/14 06:56 PM
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You pretend that I have hurt feelings about your tone, because it's easier than admitting that I just dissected your snark with one Google search.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/14 06:51 PM
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Let me break this down for you. You don't have experience as a man dating women. You can't have such experience. So I will dismiss your opinion, because it can't be based on experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/14 06:47 PM
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The clear implication was that such an assumption was unfounded. Except, oops, it's acceptable to write mainstream articles and publish books about training men like dogs. So yeah, you'll fail to convince people, because it's trivial to show a reasonable possibility otherwise.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/14 06:20 PM
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Oh, so you don't have anything useful to offer. What you have are hurt feelings because you think TRP is "awful", and your feelings tell you that your opinions are a good contribution.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/14 06:11 PM
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How amusing, you like to manipulate people but do not like to be manipulated yourselves. Ok, it's amusing. Now what?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/14 06:01 PM
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It's like you don't understand that TRP doesn't care how people see it. TRP is concerned with what works, not how to get the masses of feebs and idiots to swallow it.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/14 06:00 PM
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Obviously you're in an extreme minority.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/14 05:56 PM
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You could present your ideas that are based on the success that you as a man experience with women.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/14 05:54 PM
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If it's such a joke, the joke's on you for wasting time debating a joke.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/14 05:53 PM
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You're free to present alternatives that have worked better, drawing on the repeated success that you as a man have had with women.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/14 05:51 PM
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If this person had anything of substance to say, they'd have shut down that sarcasm with an airtight refutation. But that refutation doesn't exist, which is why he and you both are crying about hurt feelings and a mean tone.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/14 05:49 PM
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In other words, your feelings tell you that it can't be true, so therefore it must not be true.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/14 05:47 PM
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Right, we "assume" it because it doesn't really happen, Right? Nobody would describe such a thing as "hilarious", or anything. Instead they'd be horrified at the objectification.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/14 05:45 PM
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Oh, so you don't have any experience as a man who has steady success with women. None at all. Yet you deem yourself qualified to give advice. Get this: no man reading TRP gives a runny shit what you, personally, say you want. Your opinion is literally worthless when it's compared with the aggregate experiences of many men who do experience steady and repeatable success with women.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/14 05:41 PM
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Lol. Women can be weak and be sexually desirable. Men, not so much. Hollywood doesn't have shit to do with it. You want to talk mass media, look at the stereotypical male character presented to men. Hint: he isn't a crying metrosexual.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/14 05:34 PM
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Oh, you mean the Red Pill auditing program? Well yeah, I mean I paid for that, but it really helped me. Turns out that there's these body thetans that are making me beta, but we can work on that. There's another course I can take, and it's only $5,000.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/14 01:09 AM
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Perhaps you could give OP some advice on where to go for advice on atypical relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/14 12:42 AM
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So in your experience as a man who has steady success with women, what do women want?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/14 12:32 AM
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k
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/14 11:27 PM
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Haven't thought about it. Why?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/14 11:22 PM
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It's obviously an exaggeration. But a man simply apologizing here is a failure.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/14 10:00 PM
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Empathy is relevant to sexual strategy Sure. Anti slut defense is an example of that. I'm not required to give direct advice to TRP men only with every comment. TRP is about heterosexual male sexual strategy. The blue pill is about making fun of TRP. This subreddit is about discussing those two. Women's sexual strategy might fit in somewhere, but "what about women" isn't it.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/14 09:44 PM
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I've had far better results by being more of an asshole, more often, than the opposite.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/14 09:08 PM
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I'd rather have my woman have hurt feelings, as opposed to seeing me as weak. Like many lame guys I have a tendency to be what I want from a partner, not be what attracts her.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/14 08:15 PM
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A better way to state it is that insecurity is much more tolerable when coming from a woman than from a man.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/14 07:24 PM
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Well, the phrasing is sloppy and TRP isn't careful with fine details. It paints with broad strokes because most men who read it are really bad with women. It isn't fine tuning the car suspension to shave a tenth of a second off the drag strip time, it's providing advice to get the car started. And even if the guy gets told "get the fuck away from me", he's in a better place than he was when he was too lame to hit on women.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/14 07:20 PM
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It could be. But blowing off something that, as you say, is no big deal, is the safest response. If it was a big deal you'd have made sure he knew. If he repeatedly did it to you, you'd make it a big deal.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/14 07:10 PM
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She could be. But weak insecurity is the absolute worst possible response to the guy hitting on her one: (sad face) "that makes me feel bad. You told him you had a boyfriend, right? Right?". If she wasn't thinking about a branch swing, she's comparing the two of you right now. On the other one, reassurance is bad because as you say, just how low are this guy's standards? What kind of a man am I with?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/14 06:58 PM
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The scenario is the waitress flirting with him, not him blatantly disrespecting you. But this does go to show the differences in male and female perception (you're female and probably very young as well). So with that mindset, you complain to him. He laughs it off with some remark and you realize that A: you over reacted and it was nothing. He wasn't getting ready to cheat on you with that stupid little tramp. B: you have a man that's attractive to other women. Betcha little miss Slutty Slutpant…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/14 06:47 PM
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The question was an example of a male shit test. You're just circlejerking.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/14 06:40 PM
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I'm male. Because I wouldn't be happy about my man flirting with some wench Reread the scenario please.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/14 06:38 PM
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TRP understands women have problems. Read up on anti slut defense. But you didn't provide any content relevant to male sexual strategy. It was a "women have problems too" statement.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/14 06:31 PM
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After going out to eat your woman says that she didn't like the waitress flirting with you. You didn't really notice. Passing grade: "Yeah, I'm going over to an orgy with her and the other waitresses later". Passing grade (said with a smirk): "What, you didn't like little Flirty McFlirtster?" Passing grade: (ignore it). Maybe passing, depending on delivery: "I didn't notice". Any hint of being embarrassed or apologetic makes you fail. Any hint of sucking up to her makes you fail. Failing grade: …
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/14 06:22 PM
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So like I said If TRP is as bad as you say and if the blue pill's purpose was to show neutral third parties how bad TRP was, there wouldn't be a need to such nonsense. It would be recognized as counterproductive towards such a goal. Since that said nonsense is prevalent and encouraged (see the sidebar), at least one of those dependencies isn't true.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/14 06:10 PM
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Put yourself in the shoes of a lame guy. I know it's tough, you're out there slaying that snatch with your Oxford dictionary and respect for women, but play along. You're a lame dude who's swallowed all the bullshit about being nice and stuff and as a consequence you've failed with women. You need to project masculinity and be forward and such-like. But you're lame as fuck so you need to be told what to do. "Aggressive" to you is probably cold approaching. Any other term means sitting on your th…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/14 06:09 PM
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The whole question is wrong, and implies dehumanization Dude, I'm just trying to get some pussy over here. Something warm, wet, and willing, y'feel me? I got no time for that kind of talk, I need to know what these chicks want. Hell, I'll even tell them what I want first: no fuglies, no fatties, no crazies, no bitches. That's about it. There's a lot of them that are good enough, but they won't give me no time. So, what do women want?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/14 06:01 PM
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You miss the point. Clear language is more effective than weirdo talk. That doesn't mean that weirdo talk must eclipse any message. It's in the same sort of vein as /r/circlebroke Lol, that's the standard for persuasion? You're just fucking with me now.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/14 05:55 PM
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Stop and think for just a second: Is the person above really (really, now) encouraging men to start street fights? You're engaging in definitional hairsplitting in order to avoid addressing the substance of what he said.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/14 05:43 PM
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Any woman who'd cry from male sexual attention is unhinged, so I suspect that you're spitting hyperbole. A more likely scenario is your li'l nerd girl being shy/lame. In which case the man needs to know to dial it down, but keep going until he gets a rejection or a yes. AKA, be non-lame. Being forward has no downside. At worst it screens chicks out quickly.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/14 05:34 PM
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Furthermore, what precisely is not persuasive about a stickied thread at the very top of the subreddit showing the ideological enemies of the blue pill to be disgustingly misogynistic at best and rapists at worst? The rest of the trash that litters the subreddit. Start with the strange inside joke lingo in the comments of that post, the repeated use of multiple exclamation points, the strange user flair, etc. It reeks of inside jokes and circlejerking. If TRP is as bad as you say and if the blue…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/14 05:21 PM
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TRP isn't about women's sexual strategy though. Women's problems are not relevant, except as far as they impact male sexual strategy.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/14 04:33 PM
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What makes you qualified to judge what a male space ought to be?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/14 04:29 PM
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So, what happened to all those women after the men came home?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/14 04:27 PM
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Let's assume for argument that everything you say is correct. That would speak exactly nothing to what I said. The blue pill subreddit is a cesspool of idiocy and hysteria - it's about as unpersuasive as is possible. The blue pill subreddit has committed a classic sin - they've decided that they need to have a race to the bottom with their ideological enemies. They're winning handily. It's frankly hilarious. You could do better but you choose to do worse. The blue pill is deliberately more shril…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/14 04:25 PM
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You didn't "argue" anything. You made the comparison as a smear and then defended it with tenuous logic. It's not a straw man argument to point that out. It's inconvenient for you, I suppose. And if you read carefully, I didn't call you "unreasonable". You of all people should accept that logic.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/14 01:19 AM
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Yes. It's a biased title too.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/14 12:51 AM
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Quotes are not straw men. If you think my calling you unreasonable is a personal attack, report the comment and let a moderator decide. I think the characterization is fair. What I do works for me. If it were applicable to others you could short circuit TRP in its entirety by publishing it. Since you haven't done that, readers can draw their own conclusions.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/14 12:36 AM
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In this case you want to compare it to scientology as a smear. Then when pressed you resort to the most tenuous logic possible to defend the comparison. It isn't what a reasonable person would do, but it is what you do. I don't trust anonymous reviews from people that may have a vested interest in selling something. In other words you don't trust anonymous reviews. Since you can't tell what their interests are. It's not about what works. It's about what I doubt works. Using logic, I doubt TRP wo…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/14 12:28 AM
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I'm not sure what to take from that review. I didn't catch the OP saying "I read this, it worked for me".
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/14 12:21 AM
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Most things can be compared on some level. Nearly all groups have some similarities. Such comparisons illustrate nothing. Like the comparison you made. Even when people use their real names, reviews can be untrustworthy. Ok, so that idea of yours is out. We're talking about evaluating sexual strategy, no creating one. OK, what is the most useful male sexual strategy that you've found using your logic?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/14 11:57 PM
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I want a family and the whole white picket fence bullshit and it's not something that is discussed a lot on there, TRP is heavily focused on casual sex. One or two of the blogs on the sidebar are more focused on marriage, albeit with a strong religious tone.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/14 11:49 PM
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There may have been some of that too. Foolishness comes in many flavors.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/14 11:45 PM
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Surveillance is secondary to protection. You should be managing your own birth control, not worrying about fake pee tests. You should be ready to eject from a relationship with minimal fuss, not be hacking emails.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/14 11:30 PM
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Why? For the same reason that reddit, the USPS, and your local farmer's market can't reasonably be compared to the church of scientology. Non-anonymous reviews. Plenty of anti-vaccination people use their real names. Plenty of Scientologists use their real names. Do you trust them? Absent of that, logic. Can you give me an example of "logic" as a successful male sexual strategy?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/14 11:09 PM
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Why would you ignore the success of other men and attempt to reinvent the wheel? It just seems unfair to expect others to change while TRPer puts forth the absolute least effort to fix a problem that belongs to you. You're very ignorant of the whole of what TRP talks about. You're looking at a proverbial tree in the forest, talking about "absolute least effort". To give one example, TRP talks about increasing one's sexual market value. That's hardly an "absolute least effort" task.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/14 11:03 PM
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It doesn't matter. Both have an interest in selling something. The difference in degree does in fact matter. Reasonable people can see that. It doesn't matter how many stories there are. All of them are anonymous, and none of them can be fact checked. So what criteria do you have for evaluating a proper male sexual strategy?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/14 10:56 PM
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Without a coherent theory of RP this is almost impossible to answer. If you haven't read and digested TRP's side bar material, you aren't educated enough to take part in the debate. Your ignorance isn't an excuse, rather it disqualifies you from discussion. What you "consider" in ignorance isn't relevant. Expecting posters here to educate you reeks on entitlement.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/14 10:51 PM
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I'm as OK with it as I'm OK with rainstorms - it's a part of nature. But: someone has to win. If it's important, I'm going to win or I'm going to walk.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/14 10:47 PM
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In that case? No. In others that are less important? Sure. At the end of the day I remain ready to walk away if something's important. At the end of the day, I'm not sacrificing happiness for her.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/14 10:44 PM
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The difference in degree equates to a difference in kind. Scientology can't be reasonably compared to some guy with a ten dollar e-book. The anti-vaccination movement wasn't a moneymaker, You think that TRP is based on "a couple of stories"? Honestly, now?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/14 10:39 PM
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Unless you live in a fairy land with no clashes, someone's going to be in the dominant position. It doesn't have to be "about power".
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/14 10:32 PM
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TRP is about heterosexual male strategy though.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/14 10:31 PM
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A key difference is that TRP isn't selling anything or trying to recruit anyone.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/14 05:33 PM
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An example that comes to immediate mind is a recent refusal of mine to go on a trip with her. I don't want to because I wouldn't have fun. I said this. She cried and I held firm. Old me would have caved in order to appease her. Boundary set that my happiness comes first. That's a world of difference right there. Not saying that those differences are reconcileable.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/14 05:13 PM
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How about the fact that a large number of men report success from TRP practices? You might as well draw a comparison to alcoholics anonymous and their belief in a higher power. That higher power might be bullshit but the practices work.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/14 05:07 PM
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Do you view TRP as the equivalent of lizard people theories? If so, then the OP question is topical: why are you posting here? If not, then why do you bring up such an irrelevant comparison?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/14 05:02 PM
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"Pavlovian conditioning"? That's what setting boundaries and punishing bad behavior is to you? I think there's more overlap between what we're saying than you'd like to think. One clear difference is that I'm not advocating this be done from an equal footing. I'm also using rougher language than you are.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/14 04:56 PM
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Because I was foolish. I bought into the idea of unconditional loyalty and love.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/14 04:39 PM
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That it's disingenuous to claim humility when outrage is an equal if not larger motivator. Outrage could also be clouding your perspective. All that aside, I've had far better luck with making women feel better than I have had with pure rational argumentation.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/14 04:35 PM
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And I refuse to be so arrogant as to believe I am a ~special woman~ and that most women, or people, are incapable of that. It's also worth noting that the idea that most women can't do that is pretty horrible to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/14 04:23 PM
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I was asked to let egregious behavior go. I did, and surprise surprise, the behavior continued and worsened. Basically I showed that I would put up with bad behavior.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/14 04:19 PM
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Someone has to be in charge in the relationship. Things work better when that someone is the man. There's a fundamental reason why, for instance, men will date down in social class and income but women won't.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/14 04:13 PM
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I'll keep that in mind if I start fucking dudes. My experiences with women show me that the results are far better with emotional, nonverbal communication. Women want to feel good. Training is a nice shorthand phrase for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/14 04:08 PM
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Women already try to mold men - that's what TRP talks about regarding holding frame. If you're a man who has been in a LTR with a woman you've seen this first-hand. It's part of their nature. How you handle it is your problem to solve. Read up on holding frame if you're curious.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/14 03:48 PM
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"Communication", such as setting boundaries and punishing undesirable behavior. AKA "training", but you use a word that makes you feel better.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/14 03:36 PM
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I suspect he recognizes that that place can't produce anything of value. He wants something more substantial than middle school inside jokes. Whether any blue pill types can step up and provide said substance is another question. So far I'm neither impressed nor surprised.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/14 08:23 AM
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The other thing is that I wouldn't build a relationship with someone that exhibited undesirable behavior, whether academically, professionally or personally. That's what TRP calls nexting. However if you dump every woman the first time they step out of line, you'll be going on an awful lot of first dates.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/14 08:16 AM
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He's too angry at TRP concepts to want to hear from them perhaps.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/14 08:10 AM
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but I'm not sure adopting a manifesto that you yourself did not develop and adapt it to your life whole-heartedly is the way to go either What's wrong with division of labor?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/14 08:02 AM
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So in summary, you don't have any advice for men who are unsuccessful with women but you know that TRP is "shit" because your feelings tell you so.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/14 07:59 AM
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TRP thinks up formulas to dating, rather than just being laid back and real about it. Your advice for men who have by and large failed with women is to be "laid back and real about it"? That's what they were doing before. Your advice for red pill types is to return to their prior failures. It's frankly bizarre. I believe it's actually stunting dialogue between genders and therefore stunting social development as a whole. Nobody at TRP is looking for a dialogue between genders. There's no use to …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/14 07:52 AM
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Ironically you give it credence by posting this mini-rant. You invite more discussion and attention to it. If you truly believed what you say, you'd go away now.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/14 04:24 AM
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What id like is a reference to the section of that document you quoted I gave you a link already. Are there too many words on that page for you?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/14 03:27 PM
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You understand what the "horses mouth" idiom refers to. You're just pretending not to.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/14 02:02 PM
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Let's recap: I stated that feminists have labeled themselves with a biased term and that they should be assumed anti male until proven otherwise. You provided some dictionary definitions to attempt to refute me. I provided you words from the horse's mouth that feminists were biased toward women. Now you're all pissy about that.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/14 01:42 AM
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I'm not derailing, I'm reading what you write and holding you to it. It's hilarious that you can't deal with that.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/14 01:04 AM
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This thread.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/14 12:50 AM
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I'd prefer that feminists didn't tell lies about advocating equality. That's too much to ask, of course.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/14 12:20 AM
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You could start with reading the text you copy-pasted. Unless your claim is that NOW is so incompetent that they can't possibly implement their platform.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/14 12:04 AM
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The point that you attempt to dodge is that the National Organization for Women advocates far more for women than they do for men. Yet you smirkingly try to claim that feminists are about "equality". I'm not a woman and I despise their gender bias.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/14 11:42 PM
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Here's the platform of a national feminist organization: http://now.org/about/ As the grassroots arm of the women’s movement, the National Organization for Women is dedicated to its multi-issue and multi-strategy approach to women’s rights. Edit: deleting your comments already?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/14 11:31 PM
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I'm thinking that you're looking to frame the debate such that is as easy as possible to come to the conclusion that you want. I'll be your huckleberry the other way though: I'll take the position that a self described feminist is a "bad" one (anti male, anti masculinity) until proven otherwise. For starters, they've labeled themselves as having a bias for women over men (hence the term "feminist" not "egalitarian" or something).
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/14 11:15 PM
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So malcontents aren't motivated.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/14 03:49 PM
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Link to one of these dozens of internet presences? The one linked in the sidebar here is on life support.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/14 03:33 PM
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You better learn from other women and not waste the prime years of your life then, especially if what you want is a traditional family.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/14 03:32 PM
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Again, if these malcontents existed in sufficient numbers and were sufficiently motivated, they'd have an internet presence of their own. My guess is that both of those are false - there aren't many of them and they lack motivation.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/14 03:28 PM
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There's a world outside of TRP. There's a welcoming audience for disillusioned red pillers on reddit and elsewhere on the internet. The fact that those regiments of disillusioned red pillers aren't showing up speaks volumes.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/14 08:14 AM
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Except that men who put what TRP preaches into practice overwhelmingly report success. Your prediction of ruin is based off of nothing at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/14 06:04 PM
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I understand a theory based on "banging hot chicks" may not have the best internal consistency and just think TRP would be better off acknowledging that as well. What you fail to realize is that lame guys already have enough self doubt. They need something that's more or less right and more importantly they need to stick with that program. The trade-off is between simplicity and correctness. Nitpicking isn't gonna get some incel's dick wet.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/14 05:56 PM
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I'm not looking to be some dame's life coach here.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/14 05:43 PM
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maybe Maybe, but it's not a repeatable experiment. What you can see is in the aggregate, many men reporting success from the same kind of tactics. Presumably these men aren't all banging the same set of women, so presumably the set of women that react well to this kind of stuff is not small. Certainly those men are doing better now than they were then. Until you have something more than "maybe", I'm sticking with proven success.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/14 03:41 PM
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I get it, you didn't see results before using TRP and now you are. But I don't really think that's indicative of some secret truth of women/men hook ups going on. What do you suggest instead?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/14 02:51 PM
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No, don't ask them. They'll spit some malarkey about how he was kind or had nice eyes. Instead, observe the kind of men they open their legs for, and see what traits those men have in common. Do this in the aggregate and find general traits that are attractive, then learn how to implement those in yourselves. Somebody should start a subreddit that does that.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/14 02:50 PM
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Except that those things are a critical part of why they are attractive, or not. If they're unattractive, "who they really are" is irrelevant. What I suspect the problem is is the fact that SMV attempts to quantify those things - it removes the "magic" from attraction. Things that should (according to the standard view) "just happen" turn into things that can be studied, practiced, and learned. That's a common theme in the comments in this thread. You might call it the de-Disney'ing of sexual re…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/14 02:45 PM
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Curious how long we're waiting for.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/14 02:38 PM
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You mistake invective for argumentation.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/14 03:31 AM
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All 200 of them?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/14 03:30 AM
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This would be a great question for the large mass of men who have implemented TRP concepts in their lives, evaluated the effect, and then decided that TRP was bad for them. Slight problem though: that mass doesn't exist.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/14 01:03 AM
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Your only weapon against this threat is argument. You've given that up because your feelings tell you you don't need to make arguments, just to state how upset you are. You're unpersuasive.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/14 12:59 AM
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Some random ass guy on the street is by definition not what that piece was talking about.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/14 12:55 AM
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I'd bet that a red pill type saying the sentence of yours I quoted would get branded a rapist, too. Keep after her? Rapey.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/14 06:43 PM
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Pithy statements often aren't comprehensive. In this case, it's sufficient to illustrate the hysteria of the OP.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/14 06:42 PM
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If you want to have a discussion you need to know the material well enough to conduct such a discussion. If you find the material to be self evidently false then you shouldn't be having a discussion, you should be fellating your own dick about how smart you are, with the other blue pill types. In fact, there's a subreddit just for that. Participation in this sub means that you implicitly take TRP seriously enough to conduct an adult discussion. Calling red pill types idiots and assholes isn't ad…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/14 06:39 PM
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Keep asking if she wants it until you get a yes. Which is more or less what TRP advises. In fact, methods to get that yes too. Nobody's talking about hoping.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/14 06:31 PM
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Right, because I think it's ignorance to know what these terms mean, Makes perfect sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/14 03:09 PM
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There's a wide gulf between no not always meaning no, and "not taking no for an answer". That's what I mean by subtleties. Not everyone can deal with those. Sexually unsuccessful men have a hard time with subtlety.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/14 02:59 PM
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In reality things are more subtle than that.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/14 01:51 PM
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Knowledge is ignorance. Weakness is strength. Peace is war. You're so upset you can't think straight. they were made up by people with agendas who are trying to trick you into buying books or some other bullshit How many books did you have to buy to do that googling?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/14 01:42 PM
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I'm not going to provide definitions for things that you can easily google yourself. Your ignorance regarding the discussion is not my problem to solve. I don't think I should be an expert on TRP Yet you appoint yourself as competent to discuss it, because your feelings tell you your opinion is valid. you should be quiet except in contexts where a healthy discussion can be had. These contexts do not include TRP Lol. I'll keep my own counsel, thanks.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/14 05:41 AM
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Those are very standard red pill/pickup concepts that are relevant to this discussion. Not going to do your homework for you. And no, you haven't said to be quiet, you merely imply it.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/14 01:45 AM
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I'm not saying that marriage brings nothing. I'm saying that the set of things it brings is so small that the idea that one would get married just for sex is kind of a straw man.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/14 01:34 AM
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The key is to know what generalization is appropriate - what an engineer might call an order of approximation. Here we're talking sexual strategy, specifically the OP's hysterical rape claims. In context "no means no" is as worthless as those selfsame hysterical claims. Everyone here understands no doesn't always mean no, and the comparison is useful in understanding where the OP went wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/14 01:32 AM
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I think the set of things that you can get easier with marriage is actually quite small.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/14 01:15 AM
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in lieu of that conversation, "no means no" is the only explanation that will not result in lots of rape. Yet you immediately admit that no doesn't always mean no. So when TRP comes along talking about last minute resistance and anti slut defense and related concepts, you're not going to have anything better to say. "Well yeah you're right but you should be quieter about it" isn't going to convince much of anyone.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/14 01:12 AM
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I suspect that "rape or lies" is a false dichotomy.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/14 01:01 AM
1

Your first paragraph makes no sense to me. Can you please explain it?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/14 12:48 AM
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I'm not trying to score a point on you, I'm asking you a question. You want to dodge it by playing dumb, and that's fine.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/14 12:19 AM
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It could be all of reddit and still not be everyone. Unless you mean everyone that matters to you. Some redditors think that this place is the world. It severely distorts their perspective.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/14 12:17 AM
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So an example that consists of internet gossips is "everyone" now? Next you'll be trotting out Perez Hilton as some kind of standard.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/14 11:21 PM
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So you prefer an easy lie instead of a complex truth?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/14 11:16 PM
1

It's clear that he read the title and the obligatory subredditdrama post. Beyond that....
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/14 11:14 PM
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What makes you think that a subreddit full of middle school mean girl personas is "everyone"? What makes you think that TRP cares what other subreddits think about them? The stickied post at the top of TRP right now disputes that assumption. Forget about straw men, you're desperately scrambling to find straw to construct one.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/14 11:13 PM
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So, "no means no", always, no matter what, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/14 11:07 PM
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Just like, "No means no". Except, y'know, when it doesn't.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/14 10:46 PM
2

There's no need to be upset.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/14 10:05 PM
1

So do you have an opinion as to why that doesn't exist?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/14 09:47 PM
1

Sure, but comparing apples to apples: TRP exists for men to give each other advice on sexual strategy. A lot of that is casual sex related. Do you think that the equivalent - women giving one another advice on sexual strategy - is harder, or not needed as much? Assume that a lot of it is commitment related.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/14 09:41 PM
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I doubt that very many of the incel community (I'm picturing /r/foreveralone, but worse) are reading and practicing what TRP preaches. But I bet that a significant fraction of REP can identify with that incel sidebar story that's posted.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/14 09:37 PM
2

So in your opinion is it harder for women to give each other useful advice, or do women need it less? Or both?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/14 09:27 PM
2

Who do you think RP attracts - men who are naturally successful with women, or men who have struggled with success with women? It's nearly self evident that a lot of guys reading red pill stuff have failed badly with women, at least at some point in their lives.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/14 09:16 PM
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Women are the gatekeepers of sex, men are the gatekeepers of commitment. You don't ask gatekeepers how to get through their gate, the fact that you have to ask means you aren't fit to enter. Women seem to have a better grasp of this than men do. No equivalent of RP exists for women looking to shed their spinsterhood.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/14 09:10 PM
1

The no downvotes rule. I understand that it's not enforceable, and I understand why it's posted anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/14 05:52 PM
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Who cares? You did - until I pointed out the lack of substance in your argument. Now you not-so-subtly try to imply that the point isn't worth discussion. Where? Several comments of mine. Nothing you can do about it of course.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/14 05:31 PM
2

You're right, it's just one of them.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/14 05:21 PM
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"More metaphorical" is just a polysyllabic way of saying "less blunt". So we agree, but you just want to do so with bigger words. Funny to see your sidebar rules getting ignored by your team, BTW.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/14 05:11 PM
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Is the reason you came here to characterize TRP as a "cultish sub"? Edit to clarify: if not, then you need to be chastising other people in this thread too.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/14 05:01 PM
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The issue is mainly an influx of new people - Eternal September. It's probably augmented by a few blue pill types but it's mainly newbies. A sub-faction of the newbies are movement/evangelical types - they want to spread the word, and they therefore want things toned down to make the message more palatable. This kind of effect is seen with any new radical group. TRP is doing nothing special in this regard - being loud and hurting feelings is enough to get some people to call for playing nicer. A…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/14 04:46 PM
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Men are more honest/blunt with their advice than women are. You can see the differences if you look at the askmen and Askwomen subs. Imagine each subreddit's reaction to something like: "I'm having a hard time getting someone of (your gender) for casual sex. How can I do better?" The male advice would be along the lines of "please confirm that you are fat/ugly/rank. Now fix that". The female advice? Lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/14 04:20 PM
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You can interact with a woman in all kinds of ways without marrying her. Likewise you can stick your dick in one without marrying her. Where do you get your first paragraph from?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/14 05:55 AM
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