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alchemist10000/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/23 06:49 AM
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One of the issues not mentioned is the societal impact of men missing out on dating. The recent tariffs is an example. Women refuse to date the average guy -> Average guy becomes right wing -> Average guy votes for Trump -> Trump slams tariffs disrupting the economy. One thing women seem to miss is that we don't live in a isolated world, but each component is interconnected. In an alternate reality where dating apps didn't exist, women standards remain reasonable and dated men their level -> ave…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/25 05:28 PM
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I was thinking about what you said, which was quite interesting. I have the opposite issue, in that I wasn't born naturally physically attractive, so have to go the gym to put on muscle get fit to be more attractive. But then this also makes me wonder, if they like me when I'm fit and strong, and don't like me when I'm a round ball of lard, then do they actually like me for who I am, or do they just like physically attractive men? Which then comes to the issue, how do you know if someone likes y…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/25 11:24 AM
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I don't browse this sub that much, only when I'm bored during the holidays. What do they call them?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/25 09:38 AM
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What a horrible thing to say about human beings. No wonder you're single in 40s despite being a woman and playing on easy mode.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/25 07:35 AM
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It's both really. Individually sure you can put in the work, but systemic environment help too. Some concrete examples would be like, sure I can approach, talk to girls. But if society had a culture that was more conducive to cold approaching random girls, and if it had more places to hang out, or make going out more affordable, that would be helpful too. Another concrete example would be like, sure I can go to the gym get fitter and bigger, but if society had a culture where they don't tell gir…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/24 03:22 AM
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Inequality in how labour is paid is inherent because of value in society. Some labour is more valuable than others, and that is reflected in the amount paid, and subsequently, the healthcare that they can afford (and deserve). In other words, in the current healthcare system, if they aren't providing enough value to society (measured through wages), that means they can't afford (or in your words, don't deserve) the corresponding level of healthcare. In dating, the value proposition is similar, b…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/24 03:07 AM
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No one is keeping healthcare from poor people. No one is setting out to do harm to them. If they have enough money they can get healthcare. All it is is just a bunch of healthcare insurance companies that only choose to give healthcare for those who are able to afford their prices.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/24 12:48 PM
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So much of the healthcare insurance problem is that poorer people who can't afford healthcare should just pull themselves up by the bootstraps and make as much money as necessary to be able to afford it. Rather than blaming the societal healthcare insurance model as the problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/24 12:38 AM
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The real issue in healthcare insurance is that insurance companies don't owe the individual fulfilment of their healthcare, as they are entitled to reject any claims they want. So people shouldn't be wanting a better healthcare insurance model in society.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/24 12:33 AM
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What do you think could be done about healthcare insurance in the US? Any type of change that gives more insurance access to the lower class, would be taking away profits from the higher class.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/24 12:29 AM
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Feel like society could be structured to be better for the have nots. Whether that's romantic interest or healthcare insurance.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/24 12:25 AM
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How long does it take to build this emotional attraction thing for women? Is it through first interaction, or after a few times of interacting? As there's that thing where if you wait too long she might just see you as a friend, but too soon and there's not enough rapport there for her to commit to a number or a date. So it's kinda tricky to gauge when to ask her out and all...
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/24 04:09 AM
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When you say genuinely attracted to you, do you mean genuinely physically attracted or attracted as a whole? Also I assume the gauging of genuine attraction would be via her body language and actions right?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/24 02:06 AM
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I would truly like to keep all of the money I earned and not pay any taxes, but that's not conducive to society running is it, and that's why there are societal mechanisms like taxes. The issue is that with all women, the men they truly like and are attracted to are the top 10-20 percentile, which isn't conducive to a society continuity. Which is why throughout history, there have been societal mechanisms that promote women to pair up with men outside of the top 10-20 percentile. Anyway, my over…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/24 01:51 AM
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It's always the children generation that pay for the parents generation sins. Kinda sad no cap fr. Gen Z men paying for the sins of Gen X men, and Gen Beta women paying for the sins of Gen Z women in the future.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/24 01:33 AM
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in general what produces that 'genuine significant interest'?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/24 11:24 AM
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I literally said that what you said was true, because I have accepted that women are incapable of true love, loving another human being for who they are. So no I'm not expecting unconditional love. My point is more that it's quite sad that for a woman, loving someone is now a transactional business deal rather than loving them as a human, that dating is based off transaction rather than connection. If that's the case then I might as well just exchange sex in exchange for whatever value I provide…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/24 09:12 PM
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Yes I do go in completely random. I don't have a checklist like must be double d, must have hourglass figure, must not have any mental disabilities like anxiety etc, must have a job etc...i just go with the vibe and like a girl for who she is as a person, including her positives and her flaws, love her as a human being not as a employment contract with transactional conditions. But I'm a man and us men are capable of loving women for who they are as humans.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/24 09:05 PM
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If you want a romantic relationship with a woman, you have to have something to offer- looks, wealth, resources, status, humor, intelligence, conversational skills, charm, excitement, similar interests, security, shared experience...something. While this is true...this naturally leads to the conclusion that women are uncapable of loving men for who they are. I mean, if you love someone for what they have to offer, and you stop loving them when they stop offering it, did you really love them in t…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/24 07:18 PM
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Hoeflation...men nowadays have to work 5 times harder, to get a woman that's 5 times lesser, compared to a few decades ago.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/23 02:51 AM
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Yeh I have some slight high functioning autism traits, and I had an autistic woman blind date come over to my house...she was disappointed when she saw what I looked like, then throughout our hour date I made a move twice and got rejected... She also was kinda chubby so yeh lol...kinda brutal...
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/23 03:51 AM
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You're taking what I say too officially. Say there are 50 girls in a class at school. How many of them, have at some point in their life, been taught to beware of men, cause men can be violent, dangerous, just want sex etc? I'd say at least 90%. All I am saying is this should happen with boys too to learn the true nature of women in dating, things like what girls find truly attractive, redpill blackpill type of stuff. I think we differ too highly our views in dating. You think it's a subjective …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/23 11:20 AM
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Where are these places or situations?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/23 11:11 AM
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Society already mandates education about the true nature of men. From a young age women are taught how men can be violent, men can be dangerous, men only want one thing etc etc. So mandating education about the true nature of women and dating just tells it as it is without all the lies. Instead of saying women will like you if you work hard and are kind and nice to her, tell kids from a young age, you have to be tall, hot, have muscle, be charismatic, or she won't give you the time of day. That …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/23 10:50 AM
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Honestly, here's a few things that could be done. Mandate education at early ages about the true nature of women and dating. Teach kids about the true nature of women from early ages, with things like red pill and black pill. Make masculinity and feminity great again. Promote masculine values and activities in men, promote feminine values and activities in women. Make women accountable for their choices. Things like eliminate child support for single moms. Or throw women who do false sexual harr…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/23 09:41 AM
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I've always found Ayn Rand's Fountainhead Howard Roark to be quite inspiring as an ideal to aim towards, like in regards to individualism, purpose, independence, and self-centeredness for the greater good of society.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/23 09:31 PM
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Contrary to women, we learn that nobody will like us if we don’t provide something. We focus more on getting the things and skills that will allow us to attract and maintain status, because that’s how we can reproduce. Women on the other hand can more easily dedicate energies to social interactions because they’re biologically more prone to find their ultimate role within a community - they don’t need to compete as much as men to succeed in reproduction. We men instead need to develop and shine …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/23 09:18 PM
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It was always unreasonable to think that we could shift to mainly living in cities and doing low muscle jobs and have men maintain their comparatively higher value against women's value. I mean seriously how much more value than a woman who works as a registered nurse does a man who works maintaining and administering the computer systems at a high school bring? Not enough to justify her coming home from a day on her feet dealing with very ill patients all day and doing all the damn housework ev…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/23 03:26 AM
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Disregarding dating benefits, are there other benefits to cultivating masculine personality traits as a man?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/23 03:15 AM
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crazy how we are living in the safest period of history for women, yet it's also the period when women most need to feel protected from a tall man.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/23 12:22 PM
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Do you observe any common characteristics between these guys? Or are they as women claim, all different coz all women like different types?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/23 07:08 AM
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If someone is negatively affected by society (the type of men you speak of), but still chooses to invest in society, are they stupid? 🤔
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/23 08:36 PM
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Absolutely IRL is better, but not random guys on the street. It's people I meet through my hobbies or social life. You can't vet random people properly, and the chances you'll be compatible or share interests are slim. So I doubt the cold approach is gonna work any better long term, because we still have better ways and options of meeting partners. Do you think this is similar for other women too or just you? Like in regards to ways women meet guys IRL, and how receptive they are to randoms on t…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/23 08:20 PM
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Sure, some women do actually have sex with the alphas The MAJORITY of females do Which is the ONLY reason why the majority of men are single and sexless, while the majority of females are not but even then they want to settle down with the men who wil commit to them EXACTLY As an average, or a below average looking man you have to slave for years, working on your physique and or money and status to get an average, or a below average looking female, your objective match, in her 30s that has final…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/23 08:10 PM
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Oh then yeh I think distance would probably work better, and it then makes sense to escalate quickly as it helps protect yourself. Also I think if you view it as 'they just don't appreciate what I have to offer' as opposed to 'I'm just not good enough for them', that would help protect yourself too.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/23 09:03 AM
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Oh I meant both if she rejected you, and if you were not interested initially. I guess if she rejected you, then it depends how strong your feelings/attraction are for her. If it's still quite strong than distance would probably be good. Whereas when the feelings/attraction has died down it'd probably be easier to talk etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/23 08:34 AM
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What? How do you add value to a woman's life just by talking to her? Or do you mean things like bringing the good vibes with a good bully-to-flirt ratio?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/23 08:01 AM
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Nah definitely not creepy. I think showing sexual interest early and having it reciprocated shows she is interested in you as a mate. Sure women take more time than men to be attracted to someone, but it doesn't take too long for a woman to know if she's interested. Physical escalation saves time for everyone. One thing I was wondering, if she is not interested in you sexually, would you be willing to continue be fun and entertaining if she brought something else to the table? Say connections as…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/23 07:36 AM
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so it's a man who has value that is rare
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/23 06:42 AM
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how did you find a way past that? you know, to continue being fun and entertaining, but not used as a dancing monkey?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/23 04:50 AM
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yeh I've accepted that. The thing that annoys me is that girls can be an average girl or below average girl and still get with an attractive guy. I don't mind working twice as hard, but it sucks when the reward is twice as worse.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/23 03:09 AM
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Really? That age thing is surprising. All the ones I've heard of like Jobs, Zuckerberg, Instagram, Twitter, and Snapchat founders were all in their 20s or 30s.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/23 02:58 AM
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Tbh nothing is a right. Food, water, safety, security, shelter, jobs etc they are all privelleges not rights. If you acknowledge that, and eliminate things like food stamps, child support, protection from the government, job quotas, welfare checks, shelter for the homeless etc etc, and let us live in a truly meritocratic world where each person is fully responsible for their own life outcomes without any external support from society, then I'd be happy to agree that romantic relationships are a …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/23 02:15 AM
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Comparison is the thief of joy...there will always be someone better at something. Better to focus on maximizing what you can control instead.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/23 03:35 PM
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The irony being that you are doing exactly the same...fitting my response into your existing worldview 😂😂
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/23 06:06 PM
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They're cooks right, cook food and all...I read up about line cooks, maybe they just tend to have disagreeable bad boy like traits...plus being in an environment that is majorly female too...
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/23 06:12 AM
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Really? Coz alot of the time I see cooks like Gordon Ramsay ordering wait staff around... There's also a certain level of skill to be a cook compared to wait staff... Maybe they're just good at saying lines like give this meat a good ol rub...
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/23 06:06 AM
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Relative to the servers and waiters yes...from what I seen, in everyday situations relative status can generate attraction...i.e. yoga instructor, yoga students etc
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/23 05:47 AM
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So status gets 😺
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/23 05:36 AM
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Wow, reading through the comments and not once did I see the real reply. The real reply OP, is that modern day women don't give decent conversations, because they are spoilt with options. Even if they behave really badly, there will always be some simp around the corner willing to get with her. Add on to the fact that media tells them they are all perfect 10s who deserve the best, and so you have this result of women not bothering to put in effort for anyone they deem less than perfect. It's lik…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/23 05:16 AM
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I go any hole is a goal, just looking for a parking spot for my dick...but they still shame me for that 😂😂
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/23 06:24 AM
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wow I just realized I fit 4 out of 5 of those categories lmao... also realized most of those characteristics you can't change, are born with, or takes a long time to overcome...
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/23 06:21 AM
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I know what you mean. However this also provides an opportunity, in that if you can elicit certain perceptions in her mind, or elicit certain emotions from her, you'd then be able to guide her towards an outcome you desire...right? Kinda like a trail of breadcrumbs type of thing...
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/23 08:32 AM
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Interesting observation, can you elaborate on the their emotions have logic causes and effects?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/23 09:43 PM
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I notice generally women prioritize lifestyle and comfort, while men prioritize passion and purpose.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/23 07:26 PM
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Interesting 🤔 seems like the bond is important, which can only be gotten by getting to know someone
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/23 02:04 PM
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Lots of my uni friends, but it's more to places like Norway, Bali, Cambodia, France etc. Somehow it's always the girls who travel, weird really. Some with their boyfriends, some with their friends.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/23 12:54 PM
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Maybe it's time to stop listening to backstreet boys and get with the modern era.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/23 12:18 PM
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From what I've seen it's more of the holidays to Ibiza, high thread count sheets, and fine dining dinners that matter 😉
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/23 11:51 AM
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Now that your economical standards have risen, does your look standards remain the same? Or has it lowered? Just asking out of curiosity...
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/23 11:36 AM
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It's the denying part that irks me ngl. Once I mentioned how I only want to date women who make less than me because women are predominantly attracted to men who make more than them, and I got into a huge arguments with two female friends who were there.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/23 10:24 PM
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Longest way I've seen of saying no lol. But yeh women place more emphasis on looks when younger, and on money when older and realize there's bills to pay.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/23 10:21 PM
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If there were 4 women replacing the lamppost, the average men would be willing to give 3 of them a chance at something romantic. Men look to find the beauty in others and get with them for it. Women look to find a flaw in others and reject them for it. TLDR see their beautifulness instead of being disgusted.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/23 05:59 PM
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That's true with all sexual intercourse tbh...men either buy sex with their genes, their looks, their status, their charisma, or their money... No man is loved unconditionally...
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/23 02:38 PM
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Wait only 15 percent make 100k? That doesn't seem right...
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/23 02:15 PM
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I read the whole thing...seems like your description of masculinity is value...in other words a high value man, man that is valuable to society, is also a masculine man
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/23 02:20 PM
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Collectivism vs individualism basically...
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/23 07:17 PM
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It's never too late to try. It just takes effort. For the people who did succeed in their 20s while you may not recognize the effort it was there. They did grind to get a good job. They did put in the work maintaining friendships and social connections. What will absolutely literally never help you and always be a complete waste of time is playing the shoulda woulda coulda game. Focusing on how you fucked up in the past and getting bitter does nothing but make you a less engaging and likeable pe…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/23 12:39 AM
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the great irony lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/23 11:31 AM
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Interesting how some women view a high value man as a tycoon instead of a bad boy Chad...
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/23 08:07 PM
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What happened to 'money doesn't generate desire' lol
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/23 05:12 PM
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That's sad...coz it's like they like men based off lifestyle he can provide not who he is...
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/23 04:52 PM
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Really? Do you mean through prostitutes and sugar dating? Coz if it's money that's just required for sex then silicon valley dudes would be drowning in clunge right 🤔
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/23 04:32 PM
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Fit, charismatic, interesting, and dare to be different. That makes sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/23 08:57 PM
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This is a great comment. The parallels you draw between the internalized belief that you are unacceptably fat to changing that belief into not needing to be anorexic to be attractive, with beliefs related to height, is extremely important. I'd draw another parallel too, to black people in the 1950s and the way they were treated as lesser. It was because some individuals didn't believe and accept that they are lesser, which led to better outcomes. The world can reject you but you shouldn't reject…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/23 08:18 PM
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What attractive characteristics would you say you have that attracts girls?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/23 08:09 PM
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What do women mean by bigger? Is it mass or height?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/23 08:05 PM
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Makes sense...vikings do enjoy a good romp
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/23 04:16 PM
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Time to passportmax there lol
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/23 03:36 PM
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Which country do you live in? More women should be like this and be less selective about who they have sex with lol take a leaf out of guys book 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/23 03:17 PM
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You gotta change your perception of what being short means. To put it simply, if black people perceived that being black means they don't deserve to hold high paying positions and don't deserve to mix with white people we would still be in the 1950s. Similarly if gay people perceived that being gay meant there's something wrong with them we would still be in the 1970s. This guy has a pretty good video on shortness here, check it out https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z2JQ5n0dbkY&ab_channel=NaturalH…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/23 06:33 PM
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Yeh money is freedom in all settings, I guess that's why divorce rates have been going down compared to the 1970s.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 04:49 PM
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Commodities basically. There's always a better product, and it's what the product can do for me that matters based off it's specs. Having said that, there's an easier solution than the alternative. I feel like dating apps and social media adverse effects can be overcome by touching grass, doing common activities, connecting and sharing, basically doing things our parents did. The alternative solution if it was due to natural female sexuality, is basically eugenics of a few generations to adapt.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 04:38 PM
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Ok lol... Just curious as it would provide insight whether social media and dating apps is the factor for current state of the dating market, or whether women having sexual liberation/free to follow their desires, was the factor.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 04:24 PM
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Because that period is the sweet spot where it's a generation who grew up with feminism but who weren't using dating apps or social media. And I'm curious if women had as high standards back then as they do now, and whether men had as much trouble finding women back then as they do now.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 04:19 PM
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We're you dating/of dating age between 1995-2010?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 04:12 PM
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I've heard of this concept where women had to 'fuck (their husbands) to survive'...how true was that? Like did the majority of women before us never loved or desired their husbands but were only with them for survival?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 04:01 PM
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Hmm...so kind of like how at uni there is a program plan for math courses and support plans and pathways for those who struggle extra in it... I assume then just like uni, if they fail, it'll be up to their determination and dedication to fix it, i.e like getting individual tutor outside of class...
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/23 07:42 PM
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'The night is young, let's go have some fun together' then head to the arcade play some games and be like 'you're like a brother to me'. Or, 'let's go somewhere where I can taste your banana', then head to an ice cream parlour order a banana split to share, and be like 'you're such a good friend'.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/23 07:21 PM
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So what is the solution to change their outlook on life?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/23 07:14 PM
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Guess some of us focus more on the activity rather than the choice of companion sweet cheeks...I think it's a good way to live laugh love...
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/23 05:35 PM
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It's just sex bby not dissimilar to a yoga sesh or tennis sesh which you do with someone
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/23 04:29 PM
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Surprised because I'm quite ugly myself (being short and all), but still have had women willing to 'drop their physical attraction standards to engage in sexual intercourse' with me. So my assumption was that girls were like guys in that they like sex, but have more options than guys, so choose the more attractive option when they can. Which is kinda different to your point of unwilling to drop their physical attraction standards to have sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/23 12:59 PM
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Spotted the economics graduate
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/23 08:21 AM
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Really? Y'all aren't willing to do that? It's kinda admirable ngl, even if I don't understand why y'all aren't willing to lower for sex...like, it's just sex bro... Like for me I'd prefer a 7 to sex with but would still be content with a 2. Any 🕳️ is a 🥅...I know a lot of guys who have similar tendencies.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/23 08:02 AM
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When I first read about the red pill I discussed it in public and got call misogynistic by the women lol
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/23 07:06 PM
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How many times have you been rejected before you got some lovin?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/23 06:40 PM
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Yeh I definitely trust my brain
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/23 06:29 PM
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Jfc I don't think I've ever seen so many Shakespearean victorian era words in a paragraph...
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/23 04:32 PM
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That makes sense tho... From women pov, 'if he's capable of assaulting others, so powerful, but he loves me, then he'll be able to protect me from others and I'll be safe with him '
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/23 04:11 AM
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Yep, I've seen plenty of women date men without morals just because the men are attractive. OP should've put this as Q4men, as women lie to appear good. Watch what they do not what they say etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/23 04:01 AM
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There was this news that came out. A snapchat influencer trained (well, hired developers to train) chatgpt on her content to create a virtual snapchat influencer girlfriend, which charges $1/minute. Within a week, 6000 guys had signed up. https://www.reddit.com/r/OnlineDating/comments/13dprgu/a\_23yearold\_snapchat\_influencer\_used\_openais/ Pretty sad tbh.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/23 05:16 AM
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I think this applies to both genders. Women don't treat men they aren't attracted to well either. If you are in a relationship and your girlfriend doesn't respect you or is not attracted to you, she'll usually not treat you well.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/23 04:55 AM
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It is that they're nice, which is perceived as weakness or boring. Women go for (fuck) assholes but end up marrying the nice guy beta bux which explains what you see with marriages. I don't know how you came to the last conclusion from what I said. What I'm saying is that the majority of shy quiet man are perceived as less masculine and less attractive, while the majority of charismatic and confident men are perceived as more masculine and more attractive. Based off observation irl yes the latte…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/23 01:18 AM
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Ikr. I was reading this comment here I've seen 5'6" overweight men with no job walking with women I could only dream of having. Why? Crininal record. Womens' looks standards mostly only apply to law abiding citizens. And I feel like it's more of what it signifies. Having a criminal record more often than not signifies you are willing to go against authority, be rebellious, be bold and daring, be fearless, be aggresive, not give a fuck about things, all of which are masculine traits. So what it's…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/23 01:02 AM
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Do you really think if it was that easy ugly men wouldn’t just do that? Do you really think in all of our existence the reason ugly men aren’t with knockouts is because they haven’t figured out the secret of being a dick?!? Yes, I pull more when I'm a dick. Like an evolved form of negging. I pull less when I'm being nice and plain, like with 'how was your day' etc type of conversations. Are you telling me there’s handsome courteous, kind, well put together men who are shunned to inceldom because…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/23 12:49 AM
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Seems like women are attracted to masculine traits, traits that help survive and thrive. Morals don't come into place in women's attraction.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/23 12:41 AM
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I've always been puzzled with this phenomenon. Is it real, and why does it happen? Like why do women go for sociopaths and criminals? Am asking about it as I've heard this phenom being mentioned, but women always deny it saying it's the damaged women who go for sociopaths and criminals type of guys.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/23 02:02 PM
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You might not, but the multiple women complaining during the pandemic lockdown, about missing their boyfriend, missing physical intimacy, being touch starved, do want it. Funnily enough I didn't hear many men complaining...I wonder why....
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/23 10:31 AM
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Because you can get it so easily.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/23 02:29 AM
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So since there are those benefits of masculinity, why are men being taught by society to take on more feminine attributes? Traits like nurturing, compassion, expressing emotions, caring, cooperating, being supportive etc are all femininity attributes, and are traits that men are encouraged to develop.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/23 01:49 PM
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Why be masculine? What are the benefits that masculinity bring to daily life outside of dating?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/23 01:22 PM
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Hmm, I guess that a lot of people when they are partnered up, married, or have kids, tend to change their social habits...and people who are older tend to be more partnered up, married, or have kids. It seems like maybe going for non-partnered up people your age, or younger people, would have a higher probability of getting a regular group of friends?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/23 06:44 AM
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All of what you said regarding tallness is misguided. Firstly quick movement is not harder to get with shorter people, it is harder to get with fat people. Secondly being tall doesn't mean damage to your body is scaled down, it just means there's more area to aim for. A bullet to the heart would have the same impact whether you are tall or short. Thirdly, muscular people can put more weight onto their frame without crumbling, has nothing to do with height. And lastly and most importantly, you sh…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/23 06:41 AM
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From what I read it seems like friends or a solid social circle with social connections and social activities, could replace that companion social aspect.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/23 10:40 PM
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Height as a functionality has been obsolete ever since the invention of machines. Specific to war, things like guns, tanks, bombs, snipers, fighter jets, all make height a irrelevant factor. Even in daily life a 5'7 policeman could easily shoot down a 6'4 thug. Btw WW1 was literally 100 years ago and the way we fight wars now is much more tech based and less fist based. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Russo-Ukrainian_War_military_equipment
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/23 10:32 PM
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it's the implicit belief they have that real life doesn't have the potential to be better than the dream world.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/23 05:59 PM
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From your experiences, what would your answer be to the question, do you think someone single can be truly happy and how?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/23 05:49 PM
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I think the sad thing is that it would be like the scene in Inception, where the people who choose to live in the dream world and never wake up to reality, because of the sensations the dream world can give them. This is the scene https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UsYc5tCk1t8&ab\_channel=SpamJavelin
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/23 05:33 PM
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Wtf...this is what's wrong with our society
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/23 03:44 PM
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I was reading this thread and while I agree with a lot of your takes on how to handle this issue of women going for top 20%, I disagree that female sexual selection is good for improving genetics of future generations. This is because female sexual selection is for the best stone age man, not for the best technological age man. So a lot of the criteria they are attracted to is either detrimental (violent, aggresive) or obselete (tall) in the technological age. Meanwhile they aren't really attrac…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/23 04:39 AM
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Jeez I don't even know the shape of my own dick 😂. I think it's more front curve but I prefer doggy or missionary than riding tbh it's more intimate and I'm more in control. Rhythm, angle, sounds like it's a dance. But to be fair I'd be open to listen to tips that us men can work on to improve our sex performance, as stuff like shape and size are pretty immutable...
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/23 10:55 AM
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I understand size, but how does shape make a difference in pleasure? From what I've seen dicks are like a stick shape right, you just put it in and thrust...
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/23 08:24 AM
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you know I've read this but how does that work? Dick is dick right, it goes in and stimulate the pussy...so what's the difference between dick and good dick? Like for men for example pretty much all pussies feel the same...
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/23 07:53 AM
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Wtf? AI can't think nor can it decide
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/23 05:50 PM
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Wait what happened to the replika app?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/23 05:28 PM
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Like unmatched perspicacity coupled with sheer indefatigability
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/23 08:32 AM
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Also, basically no one lands their dream job as their first job. You do a job, get some work experience, decide what you like/don’t like, then go find a different job that hopefully skews the balance toward more likes over dislikes. You rinse and repeat until you’re happy. What is the corresponding situation in dating? Date a 3 and slowly move up to an 8?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/23 07:49 AM
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You know everytime I read this 'paradox of choice' I view it as just an excuse. If you have a 500 matches, it's not tough to only choose to talk to 5 matches at a time, and disregard the other 495 matches. Then clear your matches bunch by bunch like completing work tasks. I did that when I was engaging in some experimental Chadfishing on Tinder btw. Same thing with eating, narrow it down to 3 and pick 1.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/23 07:47 AM
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what are these alpha traits?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/23 07:24 AM
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You know, I hear that in the past in dating it was about what you are, whereas now it is about how you make her feel. I think from your descriptions this is true.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/23 03:24 PM
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Hmm..it seems like for short men gotta rely on other stuff for respect then, like muscles, achievements, competence etc. As for the napoleonic thingy eh haters gonna hate, just how world is.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/23 06:45 AM
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With men, it's not just attractive but it's based on height. If you are a taller man, people are more inclined to listen to what you have to say. If you're shorter, people are very much more inclined to take you less seriously. How do you circumvent this? I'm 5'5 and have experienced this in social environments. In an office environment they listen to what I say as I am good at my work. From what I can observe, it seems like additional height is an increaser of respect? That taller people get re…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/23 06:07 AM
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Thanks I'll reflect on what you said, especially these parts here which I find insightful He was in the present and in the moment. He didn't give a fuck about the outcome whether it was a success or failure. It was a game to him. Whereas for others, it's do or die where so much value is placed on that one approach. And when the approach is a failure, the pain is unreal. ​ It might seem that way, and sure, you can experiment. But everything comes at a price: Time. And time is so damn precious. Yo…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/23 03:39 PM
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Think about it this way. Even if you were exactly the same look and height as the other guy, you'll go and find something else to get worked up about. That means this is an issue within you. I didn't realize this but this is true. Even if we were both 6' and fit, if they were wealthier or had a more handsome face I'd get worked up over that. Upon reflecting, I think I know why. This mindset is a result of being the recipient of a consumer like culture in dating. With dating apps like Tinder, Bum…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/23 01:25 AM
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As per what I've written above, if you are guy 1, you've done what you needed to do. It's important to ask yourself whether you truly feel comfortable in your own skin after taking responsibility, and are happy with the way you look. I'm talking about removing the self doubt where you might think that she will reject you. Why? Because that will give off an air of insecurity and women are amazingly good at sussing that stuff out instantly. In regards to the way I look, no. Coz while I'm in the pr…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/23 03:11 PM
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I have been to therapy for family issues, am going now again for social issues. However I believe both internal and external matter. From my observation, in the first 1-3 meetings, the external is what women judge you by, it's only after a while that women judge you by internal characteristics. Some characteristics (like say resilience in adversity for example), some women might never see, if they only see you on a casual basis. Which is why I'm working on both internal and external. If a woman …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/23 01:25 AM
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What I find interesting is that in quite a few instances including yours, the people who acquire power and status, aren't those that seek it, but the ones with a good mindset and good execution. Your love for the work you do reminds me of people like Elon Musk, or Google Founders who acquired their power and status not because of wanting power and status, but because they loved what they did and executed well on it. Personally taking out the 'being attractive for women' part, I don't particularl…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/23 01:19 AM
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Also: How did you manage to avoid the disgust that people felt when you wanted a partner at all? Were your friends and peers grossed out when you said you wanted to date? Sure, you could be a saint, but at the end of the day you're a saint-let. I know what you mean by this 'disgust' reaction. (As a 5'5 guy), I've been on the receiving end of this 'disgust', mostly by women, never by men. In general I find having a idgaf attitude towards society, and living life the way you want, helps with these…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/23 01:02 AM
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Yeh what you said about innovation and AI changes make sense. Is a good approach to take I reckon. I was reading this part here too Also, the fear vs embrace plays a part on power + status. The fearful, by their nature, will never attain either. And I realize that, that means that it's not just actions that lead to power + status. It is also internal mindset/mentality and beliefs that play a part too. Do you have any views on what mindset/mentality and beliefs tend to lead to power + status?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/23 01:36 PM
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Good for you! As for AI, I’m in marketing and have similar concerns. The key, which will actually help you attain status + prestige faster, is that instead of fearing the AI, embrace it. Make it your partner. Help it do grunt work for you. I’m not a software engineer, so idk the parallel, but in my case I know marketers who use all sorts of AI tools to build the basic pieces of content - blog, video, subject lines, etc - using AI tools and then improve upon them themselves. Takes what would be m…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/23 01:05 PM
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Not a flashy answer but effective, thanks.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/23 12:40 PM
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I'm already working on the fitness and social aspects via gym and going to social events more. I asked about power and status as I hear that makes you more attractive too, but didn't quite understand how those two work. Your long reply does contain a lot of stuff on things I can control, like these To gain those you could develop a friend group around yourself or could take a leadership position in a hobby or something you're passionate about. If you want to be high-status, part of it is marketi…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/23 12:39 PM
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You miss out that external reasons affect internal beliefs. actually feel comfortable in your own skin and instead of sabotaging yourself daily, you become your own best friend and create healthy boundaries. Also none of the above have helped me attract women. However I'm open to hear what you mean by 'looking within' and how you think it will help attract women.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/23 11:47 AM
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For power, you have to have connections that can get you into special clubs, restaurants, events etc. But this is more of a benefit rather than a sexual turn on. Is this part not a sexual turn on? It's a signifier of status in the social group, which I figured women would be attracted to. Take for example Daniel Radcliffe the actor vs Daniel Radcliffe the roofer next door. Wouldn't the actor version be more sexually attractive?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/23 11:44 AM
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Interesting, thanks for the thought out reply. So if you don't rely on either power or status, what do you rely on to attract women?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/23 11:41 AM
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True women are born with inherent value and their job is to maintain their value. As a man we are nothing when we are born and gotta work hard to be high value.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/23 11:36 AM
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Hmm, yes I can see what you mean in a sense. That power is the ability to make things happen. Money is financial power. Muscles is physical power. Technical skills are knowledge power. Resilience is mental power. I think social power is the toughest to understand or get, influence over others and such.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/23 11:34 AM
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You're a woman so you're by default attractive to a large amount of men, so you wouldn't understand. As for your question, yes I'm disfigured because I'm 5'5, so I have to max out other attributes in order to be decently attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/23 11:29 AM
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do you educate yourself outside of work hours? how do you fit in the time to do so?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/23 11:28 AM
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I'm interested to see impact of AI on jobs status in the future. For example lawyer has a lot of status, but it does seem like LLM, especially the future versions of it, can easily replace a lot of lawyer tasks, which might make lawyer a not so good job. Meanwhile other jobs might increase in status with the impact of AI. So it'd be interesting to see how it plays out.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/23 11:27 AM
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How do you find the time to build passive income? If you take into account full time work, gym, socializing, there's not much time left on the side for a side hustle passive income activity.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/23 01:17 PM
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Unfortunately I never happen upon women like that irl. Even the women who likes men who are deep spiritual artistic, still want an attractive outer core on top of that personality. I've never seen a woman with a deep spiritual artistic man who is also a broke fat neckbeard. But I have seen women with deep spiritual artistic men who are also tall, handsome, and popular in their social circle.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/23 01:16 PM
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None of the people I mentioned are good looking (conventionally attractive). Leo when he was young sure, but not the current version.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/23 01:11 PM
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How do you 'put them in the mindset to fuck' lol
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/23 01:09 PM
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While that may be true that his gfs are supplied to him, I find it hard to believe that if Leo walked into a bar on a Saturday night and chatted up the hot women there, that he wouldn't be able to pull any of them.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/23 01:08 PM
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Power and status just opens the door to more attractive women being attracted to you if you are already conventionally attractive. It does nothing if you arent found attractive. You will just get orbiters who will use you for access to other powerful people I disagree with this through my own experience and real life observation. From what I observe, for men genuine desire is through heavy physical attraction. However for women genuine desire is through a mixture of alpha characteristics like lo…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/23 01:06 PM
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Using power to get women like this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rluWXMxcC7c&ab_channel=VivaLaDirtLeague
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/23 09:35 AM
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Height and muscles are also only attractive to people who are shallow. Reality is women don't care about love or commitment from a man they don't find attractive, and they certainly don't care to find out what he's like as a person. The long run doesn't come into play when she doesn't give you the time of day in the short run because she doesn't find you attractive. I know who I want to be as a person, but who I want to be also includes being a guy who can get baddies. Which is why attractivenes…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/23 09:01 AM
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That's true, putting on a mask is tiring. It does seem then that internal motivations are more important than external rewards in the long term.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/23 08:58 AM
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poetic and interesting, thanks for the informative convo
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/23 08:50 AM
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Hmm, so being wealthy, creating value and increasing social connections. That's actionable thanks for the answer.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/23 08:33 AM
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Oh ok I get what you're saying. So when you do things for the greater good, the bigger goal of the group, in the long term it will increase your reputation and status in the group, and people will trust and respect you more. I technically am making a personal sacrifice every time I have to work harder than my co-worker. I'm getting less sleep on breaks because I don't take long breaks, my knees and back hurt because I'll do lifting and scrubbing and running up and down stairs on tasks. BUT. Beca…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/23 08:29 AM
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ok thanks for the insightful and thought provoking answer. In your opinion the people who successfully acquire power and status, do they focus on the journey (to keep on improving everyday), the result (to be the best of the best), or the reward (to have lots of power, status, money)?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/23 08:19 AM
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So that means when it comes to status, it's more important for people to respect you than to like you. I'm thinking characters like Harvey Specter in Suits, Petyr Baelish in GoT, are respected for their capabilities and achievements, but aren't widely liked (by people in their world). You mentioned this I think part of what makes a leader stand out isn't that everyone likes them, it's that they can put their own personal self-benefit aside and can do what is more effective over what is most pers…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/23 08:12 AM
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Oh ok, so you're good at what you do, which leads to people trusting and respecting you, and add on to that your sense of humour leads to people liking you. These then lead to a good reputation which is status among a social group. So that means to have good status or reputation in a social group, you have to be capable and likeable.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/23 07:57 AM
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I have noticed this abit with the job thing, but also more of a relative type of way. For example two girls who worked as a house painter and a caterer, when I mentioned I work as a software engineer their attitude immediately became more interested. However when I mentioned it to college educated dieticians or physiotherapists, they don't have the same reaction. So it seems like the good job is relative to where they (the girls) are at the moment with their own job/status.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/23 07:48 AM
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Ok thanks for the detailed answer.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/23 07:43 AM
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Ahh I see, so power and status is linked to things like excellence, competence, being capable and successful. That means that there are varying degrees of power and status on a spectrum, as there are people with varying degrees of success and competence. Also the characteristics you described which lead to power and status, from what I estimate it takes quite abit of work to acquire, long road and such.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/23 07:42 AM
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It's why I'm asking this question, because I hear that women are attracted to men with power and status, but unlike body fat percentage, you can't measure it exactly. From what I read in your post, I get the themes of becoming a man of value. With this part here Most types of status rely on people knowing you; for them to know you, they have to observe you long enough to see the patterns of your behavior. If that behavior is positive and useful, you will improve your status - and the more useful…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/23 07:33 AM
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I was more leaning towards the average guy not the celebrity Leo Messi Cristiano Ronaldo type haha. From what you describe however, it seems like you're describing someone who's successful in reaching their goals in life. Acquiring mastery in a specific field basically.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/23 07:24 AM
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Ok so how do you get that reputation and power in the group? I'm assuming it would require good social skills, like improving social skills would then lead to improved reputation and power.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/23 07:20 AM
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I assume you also have to be liked and respected in the social network...like if you're the person they make fun of in the group your social status would go down...
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/23 07:13 AM
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Ok...so it's about capability and competency in the group? Like if you're high up in the competency ranking in a social group, as a leader would, you'd get higher status...
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/23 07:07 AM
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How do you improve your social status? Is it just through going to more social events?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/23 07:04 AM
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I dunno, I've seen women go crazy for famous actors and singers even though they're below average in the looks department. Think guys like Ed Sheeran and Daniel Radcliffe. Also I doubt Jay Z and Leo Di Caprio (the current version) could pull the women they pulled if they weren't famous and successful. Like I don't think Beyonce just 'tolerates' Jay Z.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/23 07:03 AM
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I'm curious to see how it would affect dating economically. It seems like in the future, a significant amount of jobs would be undergoing changes, like being automated or becoming obselete, so it's interested to see the economic impact on the dating market it will have.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/23 03:34 AM
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Intellectual disability isn't a predictor tbh. I remember reading stanford having a higher rate of virginity than other schools http://stanfordsafari.blogspot.com/2008/08/sex-lives-of-stanford-students.html?m=1 Women are attracted to the ultimate neanderthal man, not the ultimate modern man, so intelligence isn't required.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/23 12:26 PM
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Cause as long a minimum physical threshold is met other things are just as if not more important in a relationship. Also looks threshold for sex is much lower than relos. Like for me it'd be 2 for sex, 6 or 7 for relos.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/23 05:36 AM
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There's your answer ain't it
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/23 05:32 AM
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If you don't date in this manner, why don't you?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/23 05:28 AM
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Ahh the quintessential comment that showcases the difference between men and women
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/23 05:12 AM
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What is love?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/23 01:32 AM
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Isn't that kind of disingenious? This part here When the outside member is de facto "excommunicated", the in-group member gets full control of the narrative for why the relationship ended and at no cost to said reputation of the in-group member. It also allows people to act the worst they can but spin the narrative to something that puts them in a positive light. And this part here In-group reputation is no longer the "silver bullet" to keep a guy in line; the threat of being dropped and replace…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/23 05:07 AM
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he did say if he wasn't a footballer he'd be a virgin haha. I just figured he was joking, since women like tall guys, the taller the better.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/23 01:47 PM
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I was thinking of the studies that said taller men have more sex. https://indianexpress.com/article/lifestyle/feelings/taller-men-tend-to-have-more-sexual-encounters-study-2882901/ https://www.nature.com/articles/35003107 https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/full/10.1177/1474704915604563
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/23 01:47 PM
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Are you sure the height and n count (from the second bulletpoint) is correct? It doesn't look correct. Firstly taking away the height outliers, it shows that men have a n count of 6 - 7 from 5'3 to 6'2. Also it shows from 5'3 to 5'11 the taller the guy the lower the n count. Lastly it shows 6'3 + guys having a lower n count than guys 5'3 to 5'11. These three observations each don't make sense logically. Seeing as logically the taller you are the higher the n count.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/23 09:28 AM
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Gotta make way for the horse and carriage I see
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/23 07:08 PM
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forage for food smh I didn't know boomers grew up in the stone age
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/23 06:44 PM
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Do you not get lonely having no wife no relationships to look forward to? Isn't relationships (both platonic and romantic), more important, fulfilling, and enjoyable than work?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/23 06:36 PM
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brootal
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/23 12:16 PM
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holy fuck being short is the same as being disfigured or abnormal
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/23 12:15 PM
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I see this all the time but really, how can a top man 'meet your dating needs/wants' better than an average man? I assume top man is the typical HVM, someone who's tall, rich, famous, muscular etc. Yet women's dating needs/wants is someone who cares about them, who connects with them, who spends time with them, who is commited to them, who will be loyal to them. So how does a HVM meet your needs/wants better than an average man who is likelier to do those things?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/23 06:26 AM
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So in fact, a woman's true league is a man much more highly ranked than she is. This cannot coexist in a society that promotes equality.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/23 06:18 AM
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This is the correct answer imo. Imagine if women openly said they would rather share a high value man than be with the average man, their options would decrease a lot.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/23 06:17 AM
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What were the common characteristics of these guys that women shared?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/23 06:12 AM
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Interesting that your payout is requiring less time from an individual woman. Most women want to spend as much time as possible with their relationship partner (I think), as opposed to 2-3x a week and not cohabitating. Also what is yours and women's definition of top tier man? I feel like if top tier man means he's tall is kinda gross and disappointing ngl. It's like if someone said a top tier woman is someone who has double ds, kinda gross.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/23 04:51 AM
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You said it's easier to be single than in a relationship. My point was that women actually like relationships as 66% of them are in one. The only caveat is they want relationships with Chad, to the point that they are willing to share him. Btw what is this 'higher payout' to sharing Chad? I don't see how sharing someone in a relationship results in more 'payout'...
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/23 04:18 AM
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This doesn't align with the stat that 63% of men are single while 34% of women are single. From that stat it seems women like being in relationships (but inevitably have to share Chad).
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/23 04:37 AM
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Interesting, so the people you referring to with value are more acquaintances
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/23 03:55 AM
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I disagree
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/23 03:54 AM
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That's kind of cold don't ya think. Friendship should be based off camarederie, bonding, connecting, trust, having a good time, sharing, creating memories etc. All the human connection stuff, as opposed to a value transaction. Leave the value stuff for the business transactions that is modern day dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/23 06:28 PM
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How is it different? You want a job because it provides you with something - money. You want a relationship because it provides you with something - love, companionship, sex, etc. The other party in both situations also wants something from you, in the case of the job it's your labour, in the case of a partner it's love, companionship, sex. In both situations, you have to be an attractive prospect for a job or a partner to want to be with you. Some people are attractive enough early on, some peo…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/23 02:00 AM
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Highly disagree with this. I'm from a SEA country, moved to a first world Western country for university and work, have been there for about 7 years. I went back to my SEA country for Chinese New Year, and the difference between the women in SEA and women in the Western world was night and day when it came to behaviour. One of my school friends recently got married and has a very young kid, and me and another friend had dinner at her house. She was in a long term relationship with her husband be…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/23 01:39 AM
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Hawking is a great example. How many Insta influencers and modern day baddies do you think would find him attractive and want to sleep with him? I'd say pretty much none...yet how much did he contribute to society vs say an attractive criminal like Jeremy Meeks?. Also fwiw Newton and Tesla both died as virgins too. I agree it is impossible to say what's ideal, and I think there's two aspects, cultural and biological. Biological would be by genetic engineering to produce the ideal characteristics…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/23 04:53 AM
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You're misunderstanding what he's saying. What he's saying, and what I agree with, is that women's natural instincts/natural eugenics/nature, is not good for a technologically advanced civilization. To add on to what he said, this is because women's natural eugenics/instincts are geared towards finding the best hunter gatherer man (physically strong, tall, aggressive, violent, muscular, disagreeable etc), whereas what would be ideal is for women's natural eugenics/instincts to be geared towards …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/23 04:32 AM
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That's another reason why I don't want to lead with money, as it'll only get women who love me for my money and not for me.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/23 07:06 AM
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hmm yeh I feel like that is applicable in general life too, in that comparison is the thief of joy. If earn 50k, there's someone who earns 60k; then if you earn 100k there's someone who earns 110k, then when you earn 200k there's someone who earns 210k etc etc. So in that sense from what I get you're saying is that it'd be better to focus on your own goals and achievements and progress, rather than comparison with others, as it would lead to better development and happiness...which I can see hap…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/23 07:06 AM
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Thanks for the effort and long reply 🙏. Alot of what you said is insightful and helpful, especially on handling rejections and the long term game. I'll reflect on this and use it to chart a way forward.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/23 03:31 PM
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Destiny should be a servant to free will and not vice versa
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/23 03:30 PM
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Feels off and transactional, like she doesn't really want me. I tried it once with nudes, buying nudes from a girl I found hot, but it lacked that feeling of being valued, accepted, desired, loved by a girl, which you get when she freely gives it to you. Felt more like a meaningless business transaction, money for sexual stimulation. Being with a hooker would have the same effect too.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/23 02:26 PM
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Well I don't think guys expect you to be empathetic and caring considering your username 😏. Jokes aside tho, guys in general tend to have lower emotional intelligence compared to women (which can show in the way some guys talk to and about women), I agree with that. I myself learnt how to be more emotionally intelligent from my female friends. This is where posts like those you mentioned, being more emotionally intelligent when writing those would come in handy I guess. Edit: Just to expand on w…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/23 02:19 PM
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yes I do notice that her tone is more feminine (agreeable, accepting, submissive, pensieve) and less masculine (disagreeable, demanding, aggressive, rebellious)
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/23 01:53 PM
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What you say is true (that men are less niche based), but this is also counteracted in that women tend to be more or less around the mean when it comes to how they are, while men are more extreme. It's the variability hypothesis https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Variability_hypothesis Which shows that men are more varied and extreme, while women are more centered around the mean. So you have more men as drug dealers, but also more men as CEOs. So while men are less niche based, typically this is als…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/23 01:53 PM
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Thank you. Btw OP if you ever want to talk my DMs are open 🙂 as I know it can be tough being unattractive and all...
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/23 01:27 PM
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The reason the men who say things like that blame it on women character is because only a minority of men (20% of men) are considered attractive, ergo 80% of men (the majority of men) are considered unattractive by women. When it comes to women the majority (80%) are considered attractive by men, so what is there to blame on men character?? The scale of the problem matters. If a few people don't have a place to live that's too bad but is generally fine. If the majority of people are homeless the…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/23 01:24 PM
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Its pretty much the same problem, just expressed in different gender based ways. Take someone who is underpaid and want a pay rise. If they were a woman, they'd tend to secretly want it, maybe hint at it to their boss, and mention it as a suggestion, but just keep their head down if it doesn't happen. If they were a man, they'd tend to be more outspoken, demanding, aggresive at getting the payrise, even going to lengths like setting an ultimatum, refusing to work etc, to get the payrise. Which i…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/23 01:13 PM
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It's different because she's a woman. The 'you're not entitled to love sex affection' shouts is purely for men. Just society things 🤷‍♂️
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/23 12:50 PM
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Sometimes I wonder if they do it because men do it, and feminism is about teaching women to be as good as a man.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/23 12:41 PM
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There is a difference in numbers, the amount of women who are unattractive to men and sexually invisible, are 10-20%. Meanwhile the amount of men who are unattractive to women and sexually invisible, are 70%-80%. This disparity in numbers is important, as it has an impact on the sexual marketplace, and through it, society. In your personal case, it seems like you feel these things like me too... Trying and failing to make myself sexual desirable, the readiness and visibility of my sexual repulsi…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/23 12:24 PM
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On romantic inequality, while I do understand and agree with the concept that women's bodies aren't rewards for hard work...I wonder if all these women who are telling men that 'it's ok that you are gonna spend the rest of your life alone without a woman, it happens *shrugs shoulders', would be fine if it was happening to themselves. From my experience, there was this chick on this sub not too long ago who was freaking out about hitting the wall and not getting a man because she was approaching …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/23 08:55 AM
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hows that different to a hooker...
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/23 08:29 AM
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Thanks that makes me feel better and gives me some hope. How did you deal with the plentiful rejections? I don't understand what you meant to treat rejection as a building block and experience...as mostly what I get from a rejection is that 'they don't want me because they think I'm an inferior man, they wouldn't have rejected me if I was Chris Hemsworth', thus decreasing my self esteem especially when amount of rejections start to pile up.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/23 08:27 AM
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Well regardless, I'm happy for you that you found someone 🙂 and are married and all, as it's tough for short guys in dating especially in the modern dating apps era
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/23 07:32 AM
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hmm..seems like the majority of women prefer men who are taller or same height than them.. depressing as 5'5 is women's average height which means 50% of women are taller than me. from what you describe seems like getting a woman taller than you is possible not probable, in that you'd have to be very attractive in order to make it happen.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/23 07:23 AM
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How'd you do with women taller than you?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/23 07:01 AM
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It's not about me, it's the women who would rather be with a 6'4 burn victim or 6'4 man who's mauled by a wild animal, rather than a 5'5 average man. It's the emphasis that women place on height that's the issue. They are the ones that treat shortness like a deformity, not me. Btw these people who are burn victims, mauled by wild animals, and born with deformities, are extremely rare numbers wise in society. Also being fat is a personal choice through diet and exercise, being short is not a pers…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/23 06:58 AM
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Height is a major attractiveness attribute to women tho, and I'm 5'5. Not sure if other attributes can make up for that...
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/23 06:38 AM
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Hmm...I was talking to my therapist saying how I prioritize career over relationships and all, and she basically said stuff like relationships are good, that I should invest more into human relationships, and that having a girlfriend would make your life better. So I set out on the path to get a girlfriend and made it a life goal, but that just made me more depressed than when I wasn't trying, with all the rejections and all. Think my responsiveness rate was 0/70 online and 4/12 irl.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/23 06:38 AM
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That's what my therapist told me tbf. 'Work on your relationships more rather than your career'. 'Go outside and socialize more if you want to find a girlfriend'. 'Being in a relationship is good for you'. I thought it was pretty common advice (that therapists give).
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/23 06:04 AM
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I am a deformed man bro, everything else I'm fine but my height is 5'5 and that's considered deformed in 2023, just watch tiktok to see how girls act towards height. A woman with a weird body, a very unfortunate face, and bad teeth, would be like a 1, which I've never seen before. If you are talking about 3s...there were two 3s (obese chicks) who was interested in me, and I was only keen for sex with them not a relationship/dating... Btw there's a difference between my deformity and theirs, in t…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/23 05:48 AM
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Makes sense, in the form that from what I read women majorly have responsive or a mixture of responsive+spontaneous libido, while men majorly have spontaneous libido. So in that sense it takes more for a woman to be sexually excited compared to a man. I assume that outside of sex, what you meant was these stuff Playing well together. Having shared goals. Finding each other interesting. Taking comfort in your partner’s loyalty to you. Respecting each other’s contributions to the relationship and …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/23 05:36 AM
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A relationship without lust is a dead bedroom relationship...or are you saying lust is a combination of physical and non-physical characteristics?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/23 05:24 AM
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What do you mean non physically?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/23 05:13 AM
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Take my upvote for the truth. Bout half a year ago my high school best friend passed away, and during that time I just wanted a girlfriend to be affectionate with, but had no one coz I'm unattractive. Made me realize that as a man we just have to go through life alone, gotta survive and thrive all by ourselves. Women I noticed tend to have more support structures, through relationships, friendships, and support offered by society.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/23 05:07 AM
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I'm slowly coming to that realization, that we just gotta play the cards we've been dealt the best we can.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/23 05:02 AM
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So that's why I assumed she'd bang 1 because a lot of women would sleep with a hot guy just because he's hot.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/23 04:43 AM
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Sure free will and all is fine...I was just saying that if we have free will in the dating market, we should have free will in the economy market too, as in deciding how much we want to pay and where the money goes toward, for taxes.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/23 04:43 AM
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I've never had a girl friend do that for me. People who are poor in sex, love, relationships, are poor because they are born with bad (unattractive) genetics. People who are poor in money are poor because they are born into a low socioeconomic environment. There's the comparison.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/23 04:41 AM
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Where are all these severely deformed women? I've rarely seen them, like ever. Most women I see are either pretty(8-9), average(5-7), or below average (3-4). Most girls who are 3s and 4s are like that because of their weight, which is changeable. Even the girls with a butterface, as long as they are thin, end up being a 5, and getting a boyfriend who is a 6 or a 7.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/23 04:34 AM
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Tbh I didn't read the doesn't shower part. I just saw the picture and the guy in the picture doesn't look like someone who doesn't shower...
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/23 04:22 AM
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True for men. For sex, women who are unattractive still get sex because guys aren't picky about who they have sex with. For relationships, I've seen guys date down 2 or 3 points, like a girl who is a 3 dating a guy who is a 6, or a girl who is a 4 dating a guy who is a 6, or a girl who is a 6 dating a guy who is an 8. Women however rarely date downwards. I've never seen a girl who is extremely unattractive (in your words objectively very very ugly) like a 1 or a 2, so can't speak about those. Mo…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/23 04:17 AM
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That's not the point of my statement. The point of my statement is that it's kinda unfair that guys who got bad genes won't get physical intimacy, through no fault of their own. Stuff like height, hairline, race, jawline, mental disabilities, all of which are not in a guy's control and impact attractiveness.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/23 03:52 PM
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I admit we tend to focus more on the girls who do, unless we're looking for a girlfriend.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/23 03:47 PM
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No, women date to have fun and find companionship. With men dating is more like a job interview, where you have to work hard to be an attractive person for women to date. And if you lost the genetic lottery, you have to work much more harder than the average person, in order to be considered as attractive enough to date. And even then, even after working hard, it may still not be attractive enough because of things beyond control like height, race, hairline, jawline etc. So how do you not see th…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/23 03:40 PM
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Sure freedom of choice and all that. But you could help them with physical intimacy indirectly. Some indirect methods could include, introducing your single friends to him, inviting him to parties, helping out with Tinder profile, helping him out through social proof and preselection like how when other women see a man at a bar with another women they become more interested, telling their girlfriends to focus more on compatibality as opposed to superficiality, or just being empathetic. These are…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/23 03:27 PM
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Not all women tho. Lots of women just get with hot guys from a nightclub where all there is to go off is looks not connection.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/23 03:21 PM
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I don't know how to answer this question because I wouldn't be intimate with a very attractive lonely gay man either, because I'm not gay. I understand your underlying question tho, and my answer is sure if I want to, no if I don't want to. We all have freedom of choice.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/23 03:13 PM
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Where did you get this from? Your username and general attitude. Well, once you're in prison you will no longer have to worry about your virginity. I love this for you. 💛 Bold of you to assume I'm stupid enough to end up in prison. At least your delusion is constant.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/23 03:08 PM
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I already have, it's called being the only one in a group project that does the work. But more importantly did you not read what I said? I was saying that if women want a dating market which has natural selection, that's fine, but we should also have a society with natural selection too. Where there is no support for the unfortunate, the weak, the homeless, the single mums etc. Alot of which are women btw. Feminists who keep rallying for more funding, more CEO positions, more support for women i…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/23 03:05 PM
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I already do just through the little destructive things. Gotta destroy society from the inside because it doesn't care about men's needs. More and more men are caring about themselves over society because it doesn't care about men's needs. Btw easy for you to act the moral high ground given that you're blessed with Chad looks.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/23 02:56 PM
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I'd do that for fatties 💅
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/23 02:33 PM
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Women could lower their standards and still find guys they're attracted to. It's just greediness and culture telling them they deserve the best, not so much natural attraction.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/23 02:31 PM
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It's the injustice of it that pisses me off. The fact that women are all for implementing natural selection in the dating market, but not in society.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/23 02:29 PM
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But it does translate into forcing our hard earned money back to society through taxes...into stuff that the average single guy (think the average Billy) is not gonna benefit from...pretty similar to forcing women in your example I'd say. It's a well known fact that women take more from taxes than they contribute, while men contribute more than they take.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/23 02:28 PM
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Well you're wrong, I'd choose both to give my love to, since all humans deserve to be loved.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/23 02:24 PM
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why should we care about supporting those in poverty, or those who are homeless, or those who are unemployed or are struck with a severe illness? Why don't we just let them all die off in a natural selection style?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/23 02:20 PM
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Hmm, gonna be tough for you to find a Chad that is willing to not have sex till marriage. Regarding the options question so that means you take behaviour into account too then like drug use etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/23 02:18 PM
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Well the first one I find that tough to believe because they are celebrities... For the second, what do you mean say the same thing about me?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/23 02:13 PM
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wouldn't be as fun if he asked you to choose between chris hemsworth and tom hiddleton right...
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/23 02:10 PM
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because you worship at the church of Chad and the first one isn't Chad enough personality wise?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/23 02:07 PM
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Take my upvote. Least you're honest that all women care about is your gene quality.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/23 02:05 PM
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why wouldn't you bang 1? He looks great
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/23 02:03 PM
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so physically unattractive guys won't get physical intimacy or sex then
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/23 02:03 PM
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Did I say you? I said society as a whole. Stuff like homelessness, security, job opportunities quotas, positive empowerment etc, society supports women alot in all of it. If the state has an interest in the next generation not growing up in crippling poverty, maybe teach women to choose men who will stay, rather than selecting purely on attractiveness and getting pumped and dumped.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/23 06:49 AM
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People saying women are not a reward or resources to be given to men are missing the point of OP's rant. This is Maslow's pyramid https://www.simplypsychology.org/Maslows-Hierarchy-of-Needs.jpg The bottom 4 levels of needs, physiological needs, safety needs, love and belonging needs, esteem needs, society have supported women in various ways to get. Food, shelter, reproduction, personal security, resources, friendship, intimacy, self-esteem, all these needs, society have given women support in a…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/23 02:53 PM
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I think even with low inhibition you still gotta read body language and take the wishes of others into account...like sure go up talk to a girl but if she is disinterested might not be a good idea to drag her to an isolated area to escalate... or is that bad and high inhibition? hmmm
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/23 01:53 AM
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I laugh when feminists say they want men who are their equals when from their choice of men it's clear they don't.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/23 11:08 AM
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What in the name of Talos did you just say to me, you milk drinker? I'll have you know I am the Dragonborn, and I've been on numerous raids on dragons and I have over 300 dragon souls. I am trained in the Thu'um and I'm the top archer in the entire Imperial Legion. You are nothing to me but just another enemy. I will kill you with arrows the likes of which has never been seen before on Nirn, mark my words. You think you can just say that to me over the webs created by the Dwemer? Think again, mi…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/23 03:22 PM
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One of my roommate is like 6'5 and fit. I'm 5'5 and another roommate is 5'9. We all do some form of exercise and go to the gym, lift weights and all. However my 6'5 roommate genetic ceiling is much higher than our 5'5 and 5'9 ceiling. Even if we (5'5 and 5'9) lift rigoursly and the 6'5 roommate just does casual exercise, women would still choose a 6'5 fit man over a 5'5 or 5'9 muscly man. And therein lies the issue with looksmaxxing. Looks wise women don't choose based off how much effort you pu…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/23 01:42 AM
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Alot of men end up like that, because that's what most women incentivize. You think women want the 'timeless qualities of life like value of relationships built on mutual love and respect, boring wealth generation like working long hours, or contributing something of value to others' ??? If that was the case women would be going after all the engineers... What women want is the stuff that you mentioned, wealth signalling with sports cars and bottle service thus showing a wealthy lifestyle, muscl…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/23 06:53 AM
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and do things like not wash ourselves properly or eat boogers and then lie about it wtf what insanity is this...
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/23 06:20 AM
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What you need is GPT-4chan, which is GPT trained on 3 years of 4-chan data only. https://thegradient.pub/gpt-4chan-lessons/ It's been taken offline like the red pill tho. ChatGPT is trained on mainstream internet, so it's bluepilled.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/23 10:59 AM
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Yep and certain races are unattractive to them due to stereotypes. Point is that racial discrimination absolutely exist with women, like height discrimination, and all the other discriminations women apply when selecting men.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/23 11:46 AM
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Insightful pov on status thanks. And yeh the last paragraphs aligns with my life experience too.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/23 09:12 AM
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Yeh it's always the top percentiles of other races. I've seen a few white women date asian men, but they were all Changs (Asian Chads), Chadpreets (Indian Chads) , or Abduls (Middle Eastern Chads). All tall, handsome, buff, rich, conventionally attractive regardless of race, types of men. No free love for men haha.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/23 08:21 AM
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Chad.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/23 08:10 AM
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It's clear enough how to aquire looks and money, but how do you aquire status? Seems like a very vague, tough to understand thing, status is.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/23 08:08 AM
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Inflation is huge nowadays, whether in money, housing, jobs, women, fitness etc. It's getting tougher and tougher for a young man to thrive. As the rewards/effort ratio is getting lesser and lesser. It's why doomer who plays video games and watches porn is a thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/23 02:07 AM
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The irony being the primary thing modern women vet for is to feel small, safe, and protected.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/23 02:01 AM
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Yeh in the old days the social contract was man give woman protection and provision, woman give man physical intimacy. Now women don't need a man on an individual basis to protect and provide but men still need a woman on an individual basis for physical intimacy, which is why there's a huge imbalance and rise in simping. That's why robo-gfs would be a majorly beneficial change, in that men would stop needing women on an individual basis for physical intimacy, not dissimilar to how women stopped…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/23 01:59 AM
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I noticed that women approach money differently than men. For me for example, I see it as a tool to invest in better technologies and achieve more, whereas for women, the vast majority of them IME see it as a tool to get the lifestyle they want. The equalizer now being that the average man and average woman earnings don't result in much different lifestyles. In other words, it takes a lot more money than in the past, to provide a significantly better lifestyle than what women can already get fro…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/23 01:54 AM
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All those are high tier normies (or Chad-lites). Guy 1 and Guy 3 are tall and fit (not overweight). Guy 2 is muscular and in the average 5'8-5'10 height range. These characteristics make them high tier normies. No 5'2 balding Indian janitor with a great personality in any of those pics from what I can see. I guess he's too busy getting all the ons and fwbs to get into a relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/23 01:38 AM
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and women get all triggered when they're called natural eugenics 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/23 03:57 AM
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Are you basing that opinion off the 3s-6s women who are interested, or my comments here in general, or both?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/23 03:11 PM
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I got 3 (below av) for height 2 (av) for face 2 (av) for voice 2 (av) for on spectrum 1 (above av) for high status talents 1 (above av) for low inhibition Total brings me to 14 = average Joe.. Feel like it doesn't really fit, as personally I would rate myself a 3 (below average) on attractiveness, and I've only been able to get the interests of women who are 3s - 6s.. Also on the societal advantage one, I scored 57 -> not so advantaged.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/23 02:46 PM
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Thank you ❤️ I really appreciate these tips and examples, will help me socialize better 🙂
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/23 10:19 AM
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It's also the misguidance from society which is annoying. Like I'm 5'5 and asian, growing up the things we learnt were 'just be nice to women', 'treat them well and they'll like you', 'have a good career and they'll come', 'just have a good personality and they'll like you', typical bluepill stuff. So I did all those, developed my personality, treated women well, put a lot of effort into having a good career, but at the end of all those, suddenly I noticed women instead went for the bad boy type…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/23 03:31 AM
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Nah not really. I'm an asian guy and thought so too, but out of the four asian girls I pursued, one went for an asian guy who was tall and buff with good social skills, the second went for an asian guy who was above average height and rich, the third went for a white guy who was tall and handsome, the fourth went for the average white guy. I've tried my hand with black women too, but she went for an asian guy who was buff with good social skills. With white women all I could get was the interest…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/23 02:53 AM
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how do you learn and improve this playful witty banter? I've tried some of it like 'haha you're chubby', or 'your job sucks haha', and girls seem to think I'm just mean/insulting them 🤷‍♂️ I told them 'it was just bantz' and they were like 'you're not very good at it' 💁‍♂️
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/23 02:31 AM
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"When thousands of better looking, richer men are already at your fingertips as long as you let them creampie you on the first date" Are they tho? From what I see online and irl, it seems like these in demand men are more interested in casual sex than a commited relationship...
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/23 02:19 AM
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The irony being when I told my therapist I preferred to invest in my career over relationships because women (and relationships) have a low ROI compared to career, she asked me to invest more in relationships as some women (and relationships) turn out great for your life.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/23 02:15 AM
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So education and culture. interesting. Each generation I noticed is getting less racist than the other. Millenials are less racist than Boomers, and Zoomers are less racist than Millenials. I think this is a result of the world's borders opening up and people being less segregated. So education is important but I think having different races grow up together or mix together, less segregation more mixing, would result in better outcomes too. That way people learn to treat others based off individ…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/22 09:47 AM
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What would you do about it?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/22 09:11 AM
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It's not just the US, it's everywhere in the western world, countries like Australia, Canada, Germany etc. White race implies high status and dominance, that's why all women go for white men.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/22 09:04 AM
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Seriously tho, why don't we do the purge more often, like all the time? It's quite fun with all the shitposting and memes 😏 no 🧢 fr
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/22 04:33 AM
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this is horrific? oh my sweet summer child...
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/22 04:29 AM
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You're the least desired race and still do fine? Teach us how, oh wise goddess...
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/22 04:25 AM
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Out of curiousity, what are these Asian men like? From what I've seen, the majority of Asian men who are coupled up with White women are conventionally attractive, like Steven He the youtuber...tall, handsome, decently muscular, decently social...
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/22 04:24 AM
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so um if Australian born women always marry white guys, and East Asian and South East Asian women always marry white guys...who do the East Asian and South East Asian men marry?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/22 04:04 AM
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Those are environmental factors...standard of living mean women don't need men to survive meaning they can afford to be more picky...medicine make up plastic surgery don't really help men, but I admit that better health results in fitter men meaning they have better quality options lookswise... It seems then that when women get improvement in options in their environment, both in quantity and quality, their requirements then go up... This then makes me think that their 'requirements list' aren't…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/22 02:33 PM
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This is the part I don't quite understand tbh. Since it's biological ingrained, why is the looks requirement for now much higher than say the 1950s-1970s? Not much has changed biologically so how come now the looks requirement of men is so much higher...
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/22 01:27 PM
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I agree that personality can't make up for a lack of looks, applies to majority of people. However on your hypothesis that women date unattractive men who they know won't cheat, but be totally accomodating to all her needs, I think that's more of a individual case basis, and it's up to us guys to make sure it doesn't happen. I think in general once a guy meets a girl's minimum looks level, other traits then come into play (for sexual attractiveness). I think the real question is that, is this mi…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/22 04:17 PM
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So high functioning autism people are doomed to suck at social situations and dating? Is there a way out to overcome this disadvantage? (and be good at social situations and the social aspect of dating)
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/22 07:06 PM
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What is responsive desire? First time I've heard of this. I'm a man btw.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/22 01:05 AM
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It's more of the stereotypes that society holds. As an asian man I've felt it too. In online dating I get near zero results because of my race. It seems that women have this stereotype of asian men as feminine, meek, submissive, and so swipe left on the stereotype. I remember this one time on Discord where I got on well with a chick, vibing and all, then she saw my face is Asian and she suddenly stopped replying to my messages. I find I do better in real life where people can see the real me and…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/22 09:21 AM
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Mostly at uni is where I hear the man hating feminists. I work in STEM which is male dominated so there's barely any women there, just one woman in my workplace so not much feminist convos there. It's more of an extrapolation in that I figure that if these girls are comfortable saying this at uni I assume they'd be comfortable saying it in the workplace.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/22 07:22 PM
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I sometimes wonder if they'd be able to tell unless the guy was really weirdly blatant about it. Like I seriously doubt most of the red pillers here openly use the terminology irl. I don't think so tbf. I never talk about manosphere stuff to women, and even if somehow I did, I'd frame it in a socially acceptable way that women would agree with, like women like attractive men, instead of women only care about looks money status, all women are like that. In general I don't talk about it with women…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/22 07:17 PM
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Honestly I'm here 90% for entertainment, 10% for advice (like insight on women's attraction for example). Some posts and comments are pretty wild takes, and also entertaining. This is also the main sub that embraces the uncomfortable truths in dating as opposed to more bluepilled subs like r/dating or r/datingadvice. Meanwhile it is also less extreme than subs like r/theredpill, which I browse ocassionally for tips on how to get women or be a better man, but admit that sometimes they do take it …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/22 06:31 PM
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Interesting about the warehouse experience. I guess the environment matters, in that in male dominated environment or more trades type of job, these male oriented conversations are more tolerated, along with male banter and the like. Whereas if it was in a more female dominated environment like nursing, or an office type of job, a woman might report to HR that she doesn't like these men that are red pilled. You can see it on here too, women have remarked that they dislike red pilled men, and wou…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/22 06:16 PM
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In regards to painting women in a bad light, firstly you are absolutely right that preaching body counts or mgtow at work would get you sacked. And that is because stuff like these paint women in a bad light. Saying a high n count is bad is basically implying women who have a high n count are slutty and of lower value. Saying you are MGTOW is inferring that you either think modern day women are not worth the effort (woman bad), or that you prioritize other things over women (woman bad). If you d…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/22 06:02 PM
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This says more about the bias that society has tbh. Misandrist terminology are deemed alright in society and the workplace, but any harsh truths that paint women in a bad light are called misogynistic and results in social consequences. And people wonder why the manosphere has grown so much.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/22 12:43 PM
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I admire your honesty
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/22 11:40 AM
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The main issue here is that women are attracted to the power differences, I think the term here is sexual dimorphism. Think about it, a woman wants a man that is taller than her, wealthier than her, stronger than her, higher social status than her. In other words, they want that physical power difference (in height and muscles), that financial power difference (in wealth and income), and that social power difference (in social status). This sexual dimorphism is what women find attractive, or to …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/22 07:23 AM
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Same thing I'd do as a man, do what is necessary to live a happy fulfilling life. What a happy fulfilling life looks like as a woman I don't know tho. Would have to ask the happy and fulfilled women.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/22 05:09 AM
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Ikr, I had more fun playing games like Witcher, RDR2, participating in my hobbies and learning new skills, than I had with online dating. You can literally sense that women have heaps of options and don't care that much, in their replies. I do admit tho that when it comes to real life socializing like social events and parties I enjoy it more, as even if I wind up not getting laid at least I had fun time at the event.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/22 05:06 AM
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That's wild...you saying that women have lost attraction for you...I mean, you're 6'3 with 8% bodyfat and have dated 80 women, I would have thought that women would never lose attraction, you know coz you're attractive. It seems like even if you're an attractive man, that there is still a chance that she loses attraction for you. It's kinda disappointing to learn that they can lose attraction if they have a better option elsewhere...I would have understood if their partner just let himself go (i…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/22 04:53 AM
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Seems like you like men with traditionally masculine traits. That's rare to see in this feminist society. From life experience are you the only woman that likes traditionally masculine traits? Or do most women that you know, including your feminist friends, like it too?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/22 04:36 AM
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By sending out choosing signals of course. Bathe in the tears of a thousand virgins, then smear yourself all over with guacamole and do the raindance under the full moon. This shows you are wanting to be pursued and are simultaneously a good choice for a mate, kinda like how peacocks do it.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/22 04:28 AM
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Harsh truth. As an average joe I get annoyed by women approaching me as I know they either want my money or my kidney.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/22 04:19 AM
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Are you one of those 'top man' you speak of?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/22 10:30 AM
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You are who I inspire to be omg. Just casual sex without commitment? Sign me up haha. Tbf I wouldn't mind being serious with a girl who is wifey material, it's just that not many girls nowadays are wifey material, I'd estimate like 1/10 are. However I find that to get casual sex without commitment you have to be attractive..I think..Do you think we have to be attractive to get casual sex? Also it seems that you don't rely on clubs to get casual sex...How do you get casual sex without going to th…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/22 08:05 AM
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There it is...that moral high ground again 😂😂 Do you say this too to the girls on onlyfans who take advantage of lonely men? To the women who divorce their husbands and take everything from him?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/22 06:50 PM
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People who have suffered can understand what it's like to be set back by life and thus do whatever is necessary to fulfil their needs regardless of morality. She couldn't understand that, as can be seen by her judging these same people as immoral, selfish, cruel.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/22 06:43 AM
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I did say you wouldn't understand (that sex and intimacy is a need).
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/22 05:10 AM
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Easy for you to talk about right choices and all when you've never suffered. Just like it's easy for someone to judge people who steal to feed their families when they've never been in that position.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/22 05:06 AM
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Most straightforward solution (to rectify the dating market) is for women to lower their standards.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/22 03:53 AM
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What do they (including you) do when they get horny then? Or when you said you and your mates 'opt out of dating' is that more like just casual sex but not LTR?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/22 03:45 AM
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Fax. I wonder how many guys would still be with their girl if she didn't give him sex. It's why I think it'd be interesting to see the effects of sex bots in the future. Like if a sex bot can fulfil the average man's sex needs, would they still be as keen on women...
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/22 03:42 AM
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On point 4, of women's attraction being very flakey. Does that mean that if a woman is attracted to you, she can lose attraction still some time down the road? How do you prevent that?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/22 03:32 AM
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Great mindset
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/22 03:05 AM
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Understandable...I checked out your profile and can see how you'd get arrested for exacerbating global warming everywhere you go due to that body of yours 🙃
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/22 03:42 PM
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How do you know so many men who spent years in prison 💀 I don't even know one.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/22 09:35 AM
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Based
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/22 09:31 AM
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💀💀
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/22 08:11 AM
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It's behind a paywall but I acknowledge the headline. At the end of the day sure men with options tend to cheat more (than men who don't) simply because they have more opportunities, but I have seen men who have options but don't cheat too, is what I'm saying.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/22 06:16 AM
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I would never do that bby, I'd lie about how much the rent is, and get my bang maid to pay all the rent while I fuck the other woman. I care about them by putting in the energy to lie and manipulate them daily x.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/22 06:12 AM
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Pretty sure Gates didn't cheat on his wife, Bezos I'm not sure. As for Reynolds TIL Deadpool married Black Widow, weird. He looks happy with Blake Lively tho which was my point that men with options can be loyal. Look if you're that sure that men with options will cheat at a flick of a switch, why don't you hit Ryan Reynolds or Jeff Bezos or any of these famous successful men up, surely he'll then get with you... Btw there were social structures to prevent this sorta things from happening, like …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/22 06:01 AM
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From what I read, women initiate divorce not because men cheat, but because women are unhappy or dissatisfied about the marriage, and so want to break up. I cheat and lie about it to protect her from being hurt thereby being loyal to her.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/22 05:50 AM
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I misinterpreted what you meant. When you mentioned the failed loyalty tests on Tiktok, I thought you meant the tester failed to lure the guy and the guy stayed loyal to the girl. I don't think loyalty tests are a good way to evaluate as people tend to show loyalty tests that fail, for the dramatization effect. Jeff Bezos, Bill Gates, Ryan Reynolds, Hugh Jackman, all are men who reach fame and success, but still stay with their partners. Because they love them.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/22 05:39 AM
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Men love idealistically, so when they are with a woman they don't typically look out for upgrades unless they fall out of love. For myself, when I love a girl I have turned down other girls too. Women meanwhile are more predisposed to look out for upgrades even when they are in relationships. Least that's what I've observed. Also on my university love letters page there have been a few instances, like 5 or 6 times, of people posting saying that they fell out of love and are looking for advice. A…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/22 05:18 AM
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I asked ChatGPT AI to reply to this as a young feminist woman, this is what it said: As a young, feminist woman, I agree that the increasing participation of women in the workforce has challenged traditional dating conventions. However, I don't think this necessarily means that our future will be dystopian. While it's true that some traditional practices may no longer be relevant, I think it's important to embrace the changes and adapt to the new societal norms. As feminists, we believe in equal…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/22 05:07 AM
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First time I've heard this term, but I doubt that it's that common seeing as 70% of divorces are filed by women. Also from what I read up most "starter wives" happen to women who lose their looks/attractiveness when they get old and have nothing else to offer. The key being the nothing else to offer other than looks.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/22 04:52 AM
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Well I was referring to the everyday man (and everyday woman). Men with options and who love the woman they're with tend to be loyal. In this instance, it's up to the woman to be able to have something (more than sex), that makes the man with options love her as opposed to other women.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/22 04:52 AM
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I agree with the last point that women who can't keep a guy around is shooting out of her league. Have seen that happening at uni. It's also usually these same group of women who then reject guys who are more in their league, because she perceives herself as being in a higher league having slept with those men. I think for guys reflection is the way to go to know if you're shooting out of your league. I reflected on the women that was interested in me vs the women that I was interested in but wa…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/22 04:07 AM
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True but that's a direct result of the environment around us where masculinity is demonized, men are encouraged to develop feminine traits, and feminists demonize any semblance of masculinity as toxic masculinity. Eventually men have to either choose to go against societal rules and norms and embrace masculinity, or go along with societal rules and norms and loose their masculinity.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/22 03:53 AM
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This applies more to women. Yes I've experienced it too, both on myself being upgraded and replaced, along with seeing it happening to men around me. Men are more loyal while women will get an upgrade if they can.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/22 03:50 AM
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I understand that women like to feel smaller than their guy. However height is a genetic trait, one that is inherited from parents, and one that you can't change. In other words it's inherited, immutable, and not something you can earn or work on. Meanwhile things like muscles are mutable and something you can work on. So for guys who are not genetically blessed, can muscles replace height in making women feel small?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/22 03:39 AM
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While I agree with your original premise that women are people too who make mistakes, learn from it, and change their approached and behavior accordingly, from the man perspective it's also tough to determine if that's real. Some women never learn, and refuse to settle. Some women change who they're looking for. Some women only change who they're looking for when their options have run out or they realize Chad will never commit to them. From a man's perspective, how do I know if a woman changed …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/22 03:27 AM
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When you say commit, how many dates is that? Or is it only when you both are exclusive?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/22 03:19 AM
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I feel like there's a psychology lesson here...like people respond more to more rewards than less rewards.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/22 03:05 AM
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Tbh my success rate irl is better than sliding into DMs. Irl I'm 2 in 10 (from social gatherings), DMs like Insta or Fb I'm 0 in 60 haha.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/22 03:03 AM
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Tbf it's more of a self perception thing...in that the average woman perceives herself in being above average in quality, thus saying no to the average guy that approaches her.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/22 02:57 AM
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There is no one-size-fits-all answer to this question, as everyone has their own individual preferences when it comes to attraction. For some people, being fit and muscular may be an important factor in their perception of attractiveness, while for others it may be less important or not a factor at all. Physical appearance can certainly play a role in attraction, but it is not the only factor. Other factors that can influence attraction include a person's personality, interests, values, and over…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/22 05:40 PM
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I don't understand...what's the difference between hitting on them and striking up a convo? You're talking to them in both cases.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/22 01:44 PM
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Tbh I never understood how height translates into physical protection. If I was to get a bodyguard against say an army of white walkers I'd prefer someone fit strong and skilled over height. Also in modern society I think that guns protect you better than height.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/22 12:57 PM
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Yeh sometimes in convos with women you are interested in, it can feel like they are assessing if you are capable of being a good partner. Gotta perform and all that. I think with practice it gets better, but the trick is integrating that into a natural state, like it being the way you talk to rest of population, AND is also attractive to the women you are interested in.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/22 07:30 PM
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I once turned down an opportunity for a threesome after a night out clubbing, because there was this girl whom I loved and I wanted to be with her and her only. What sucked was when I asked her out the next week, she rejected me, then started dating someone more attractive then me. So I think that when a person loves their partner (regardless of gender), they would be loyal to them despite other options being present. Sure amount of options come into play, but if you love someone all the other o…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/22 03:34 PM
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Twas a joke
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/22 03:45 AM
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Lots to read here but I agree that getting in a relo/married just to have sex is bad. Also agree that we shouldn't measure our worth from amount of women that like us, and that as men we should focus on important things that will make our live better rather than focusing on women. What I find funny is that someone like you who is popular with women and someone like me who is not as great with women and is doing self improvement, both come to similar conclusions on women.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/22 03:43 AM
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Leonardo DiCaprio has left the chat
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/22 02:52 AM
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I don't think men have distinct "will sleep with" "won't sleep with" categories. While men find some women more attractive and some less attractive, men are much more willing to sleep with women of different levels of attractiveness, whether they are a 9, a 6, or a 3, as long as she puts out. In contrast women are the ones who are much more pickier with who they sleep with. This is also due to evolutionary mechanisms, as men who had the most sex have the best chance of continuing their genes, wh…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/22 01:26 AM
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It's interesting that women's attraction is this way as it varies from men's attraction where men mainly just need visual stimuli to be attracted, which is why men gravitate towards porn while women gravitate towards 50 Shades of Grey, which is more story experience orientated rather than visual orientated. I think that this sort of attraction style that women have, requires more time to get to know each other, and shared experiences. As these things like how connected you are, how they treat yo…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/22 12:00 AM
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Do you think they are attracted to those other non-physical attributes of their partners or it's more of a transactional thing? In other words I guess what I'm wondering is with those stuff I mentioned like personality, charisma, lifestyle, career, whether women are capable of being attracted to those sort of non-physical traits, or whether it's more of a transactional thing where they trade looks for those stuff.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/22 10:37 PM
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Based off your social group of girls around you (and including you) what are those hot physical traits in that range?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/22 08:20 PM
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I think with the very attractive women with average looking guys pairing, it's probably because the average looking guys make up for the difference with other stuff than looks. Stuff like personality, charisma, lifestyle, career etc...What do you reckon?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/22 06:29 PM
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Btw I have expanded on what I think...what do you think? In regards to your question.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/22 06:26 PM
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I disagree with this tbh. As I have aged, the (type of) girls I'm attracted to have changed. Back in my teens I found the conventionally attractive girls attractive, you know, cute face, butt, boobs, hourglass figure all that. As I have grown older and with more life experience I now in my mid 20s, find a wider range of girls attractive. Including girls who may not be conventionally attractive but who are kind, warm hearted, caring, fun, smart, in short I find my attraction puts more priority on…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/22 06:25 PM
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I think for that to happen, equitable widespread monogamy in the modern paradigm, men need to offer something different than traditionally. On the woman side, they'd have to want a partner and the perks that come with it.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/22 10:49 AM
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Right now? No. Women have more of the leverage. Much more. In the future, possibly. Possible factors include stuff like sex robots which replace sex and intimacy, or men offering more along the lines of human experience like being fun attractive supportive etc, or women not wanting to be alone, or government taking away some of women's rights to even the dating playing ground i.e. Roe v Wade.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/22 10:25 AM
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"And yet, why is it precisely when people turn late middle aged, with empty nests, that many women most complain about the man in their lives? Where many divorces happen? Where if there is a divorce, the man is much more likely to remarry? Are men of this age doing something wrong?" This actually doesn't just apply to the average man, but have happened to Chads too. Sometimes people change, sometimes people (including Chads) let themselves go, sometimes women just keep wanting more and are unabl…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/22 02:40 PM
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That trend is disappointing tbh. Bring back body shaming so people can live healthier lives 😏. My main point anyway is that what prevents women from getting commitment isn't their attractiveness, it is their unreasonable standards. Yes that applies to thin above average women too, who get offers for commitment but believe that they deserve better like a Christian Grey or a Ryan Reynolds (both are based off my real life convos with thin women). All women get offers for commitment, their only road…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/22 02:30 PM
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Yeh I've heard of this, that women's attraction are more holistic. So assuming chemistry is there right, what is the minimum level of physical hotness the guy needs? Like is the minimum he has to be physically attractive, neutral, or below average, assuming chemistry is there, for sexual attraction to occur?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/22 01:54 PM
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I said women, including average and below average ones too. I agree with you that above average attractive women don't have this issue, is what I've seen too. My point was more on the average (and below average) ones who complain about being pumped and dumped. Not a fantasy just tiresome to hear at uni (them complaining about being played by fuckboi Chads).
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/22 01:42 PM
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"If widespread monogamy is still the societal goal, then the ideal would be for idiosyncratic compatibility factors to gain importance for both genders. Not sure how that happens, but that would be for the best IMO." I think this is the best way. And I think for that to happen, it has to get worst before it gets better. One of the reason monogamy benefit women too is that when they grow old and lose their looks, they have someone to be with. I think that with the scenario you mentioned it will d…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/22 01:37 PM
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"What he thinks his level should be is apparently not the level that is actually attracted to him" What she thinks her level should be is apparently not the level that is actually willing to commit to her Wished women realize that rather than complain about the Chads that pump and dump them but don't want to be in a relo with them.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/22 01:09 PM
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The seeds of that phenomenon are happening in real life - guys filtering more for women character while dropping looks requirements. You see much more above average guys with below average girls these days. It still results in a societal issue tho, if above average guys pair up with the below average girls...what's gonna happen to both the above average girls and below average guys? Btw I find it ironic that women throughout history have always screamed how men are shallow and only care about lo…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/22 12:49 PM
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Yeh sexual selection books like The red queen, A billion wicked thoughts, the evolution of desire, all touch on red pill principles, and they were written long before the internet red pill was a thing. Furthermore they were written based off observations and experiments so statistics basically, as the scientific method is statistical by nature.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/22 05:20 PM
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This is interesting...from what you describe it sounds like women's attraction is more holistic as compared to men's attraction which is more visual. What is this chemistry that you speak of? Like is it their behaviour, their interaction with you, how they make you feel, their social status, or a combination of all these?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/22 04:42 PM
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I think statistics is extremely useful, as long as you approach them in a deterministic manner, utilizing them to carve the life you want. After all, knowledge is a bunch of statistical data.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/22 04:32 PM
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I'd like to add my thoughts to this post. The points this post made is true in the dating market, that women have an immutable advantage and inherent value, while men are comparatively disposable and have to build their own value. However I feel like this changes outside of the dating market. In the work/employment market for example, I do feel like it's more equal, and men due to their natural male attributes like aggresion, drive, will to conqueor, tendency for risk taking, attributes which ar…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/22 08:01 AM
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Men don't red pill men, women red pill men.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/22 07:52 AM
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💀💀such a coincidence
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/22 05:11 PM
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Yeh the shared connections and interests harsh truth shocked me when I discovered it. Had this girl in my STEM degree year of which I had a connection and shared interests with. She still rejected me when I asked her out, and instead went for the tall, handsome, rich, successful guy who was already working in the industry. Opened my eyes to the lie of shared interests and connection. As for immutable traits, while they are important I don't dwell much on them as I can't change it. Better to focu…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/22 10:28 AM
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Never met a woman like that in my entire life so gonna call cap on this. I've met women who wanted emotional expressiveness and empathy from men they were already attracted to sure. But even they still wanted attractive partners first, with the usual attractive masculine traits like height, muscles, dick size, money, popularity etc. The empathy stuff is secondary to attractiveness.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/22 10:17 AM
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Do you think it was the muscles or the money?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/22 10:13 AM
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Got ourselves someone from Basedtown here.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/22 10:09 AM
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Really? Is this true for most women in your observations? If yes why do you think that is?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/22 04:37 AM
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Agree with all you said. But there is no other way is there? This is the only way in order to be attractive to women. We didn't choose this, women choose the men they find attractive, and us men have to adapt accordingly to be attractive to women - and get sex love intimacy.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/22 04:13 AM
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I didn't think about the consequences sure and found that insightful. Since we're playing in the Worse-off Olympics, the consequences for men are greater loneliness, being touch-starved, love-starved, sex-starved, emotionally starved, along with having it tougher than women to acquire both sex and relationships. Would you trade your consequences (of expectations and possible sexual harrasment etc) for our consequences mentioned above? I don't think most women would. Btw the monogamous family uni…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/22 03:13 AM
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Soz that would require higher thought processes and deeper thinking of your behavior, of which I'm incapable of due to my slow transformation into the ooga booga simple muscular caveman that women desire and love. p.s. I don't think you're skilled enough to be sarcastic hun 😉
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/22 02:15 AM
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wouldnt this (30-40% of men) have implications for both women and society too?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/22 07:23 PM
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The irony of you saying this when you just expressed your love for tall big dick men in the international men day post lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/22 07:12 PM
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Here is some words of what love and relationships consists of in reality: Rejection, ghosting, commodity, replaceable, upgradable, hypergamy, high effort for low reward, high expectations, unappreciative, superficial, expensive. And those are just off the top of my head. Like I said, come back to reality pls.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/22 07:02 PM
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Well we fundamentally disagree then. Easy access to sex, having others pay for you, having an easier time getting a job, are all things that make life easier. And these are just the beginning tbh, not even going into how women have greater support from society and legal system in general while men are treated disposable. As for getting pregnant, we don't live in the stone age anymore, there are heaps of ways to prevent or cancel pregnancy, not to mention pregnancy is much safer. We live in a muc…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/22 06:36 PM
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Relationships and love being beautiful things 😂😂. God you sound just like my therapist. Come back to reality pls.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/22 06:17 PM
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Interesting how you listed all the benefits of being a woman compared to a man, but never listed the benefits of being a man compared to a woman...only glossing over it with 'so much more to life than easy dating'.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/22 05:43 PM
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😭😭
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/22 11:14 AM
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It's really not. We have through the scientific method discovered what causes attraction, lots of articles over the web. In an evolutionary sense, women are attracted to men who can protect and provide for her and her offspring, as this then means greater chance of offspring surviving and thriving. Translated to in a general sense, this then results in women being attracted to dominance, power, strength, competence. In the physical realm this then means height, muscles, athleticism, physical cap…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/22 04:29 AM
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Tbh I think it's just the human need to be valued, appreciated, desired, loved. Guys these days are unlikely to get that from an Instathot unless you're in the top 5% of men. Hence the lowering of standards. Sad really.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/22 05:03 AM
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lmao 🧢
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/22 05:01 AM
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inflation smh
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/22 04:57 AM
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I think its tougher to get your looksmatch these days due to hypergamy. Pretty brutal world ngl, looks inflation of women, economic inflation, housing inflation...you're getting lesser and lesser for your effort, feels like this gonna make more and more people give up...
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/22 03:48 AM
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the impact also varies between women who rely completely on their looks to be attractive, vs women who have other attractive traits outside of their looks.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/22 05:33 PM
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when she has a dick...makes me distrust sex immediately...
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/22 05:30 PM
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thread about wealth coming up soon since it hasn't been discussed enough
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/22 05:28 PM
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'sex haver' lmao...sounds like a line from a seth rogen movie...
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/22 05:23 PM
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u mirin brah? lettuce be cereal, the real tea is that sloots gonna sloot... I wonder where the misc went, was the locker room of the internet like a decade ago I remember reading it to get tips while I was in school. Seemed like every second googled question about girls linked back to there.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/22 10:07 AM
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Yeh it's the rejection that sucks, doesn't feel good being rejected, and I've been rejected like 5 times this year. But overall thanks that's good advice.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/22 07:00 PM
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Where do you suggest to meet women instead of dating apps? Also based off what you said here you get yourself to a level where women especially gorgeous women want to compete for you and fight over you. What concretely consists of that level? There are certain traits which women find very attractive which are immutable. So what consists of this level (when I can't grow taller)? Like is it muscles? wealth? etc etc. As to get to this level I'd have to know what to improve on.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/22 06:32 PM
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Yeh I hear that often on youtube outlets that men should chase excellence and greatness not women and pussy. I've talked to my woman psychologist and she encourages me to chase women and relationships, saying indirectly how being in a relo with a woman is great. So I'm not sure who to listen to.... Tbh I've tried Tinder and it seems like a giant timesink ngl.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/22 06:15 PM
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That's true as I don't get any either. I do wonder whether men like these, men like me who don't get any, should still make it the sole purpose of life or whether should have it as a side purpose to the main purpose of having a healthy fulfilling life...
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/22 05:58 PM
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I don't think it's healthy to make being a pussy slayer the sole purpose of your life. What sucks is how frequently my dick disagrees.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/22 05:50 PM
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Height aint a factor for women, shorter women are actually seen as more attractive and feminine. It's weight that counts and your weight seems fine. What were the type of guys that you attracted? Like height, body build, social status, type of personality, those sort of things.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/22 05:47 PM
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The climb to be attractive. Not unlike Bane's climb out of the pit.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/22 05:38 PM
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Troll alert. I've seen the pic in your post history, you're cute. The only reason why you would be unable to get a long term relationship is you're too picky simple. You did also literally say you just got out of a relo, so that negates your 'cant get a relo' thing. I don't believe you've never been with a Chad in your 20s either, not with your looks. I think it's more you view Chad as the average guy (as lots of women do), and view yourself being with Chad as being with the average guy. Just wo…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/22 05:36 PM
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💀💀
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/22 08:15 AM
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Oh nice...VC circles...so that means it's who you know not what you know...haha As for your predicament...tbh I think most women when they find out you're wealthy they would imagine you would lead the Wolf of Wall Street lifestyle, as women tend to get their mind models of the world from movies and social media. I think if you put your foot down and draw the line, of what you will spend and won't, they should respect that...Another softer way you could play it is to make them earn it, earn the s…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/22 02:01 AM
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Oh cool, did you join the startups or were among the ones founding it? Coz there's like a ton of difference between what the founder gets and what say the developer who builds functionality gets. It's more skill than luck I think 😉
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/22 01:33 AM
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8 figures is 10 million or more...which is like 1 percent of society...most people don't achieve that in a lifetime let alone by late 20s... How did you earn 8 figures if you don't mind me asking? Like was it through investing, or through your own business, or through working for a rich company, or are you a successful athlete etc?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/22 10:56 PM
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Omg a compliment. I'll get my ice blaster wrap it in cryogenics as I ain't sure when the next one will be, so gotta last the century.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/22 02:30 PM
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Cunt depth is a mutable characteristic. Since Olivia Wilde became famous she has gone to new depths of being a cunt especially with her new movie. Same with women who embrace feminazi idealogies.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/22 02:15 PM
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Yes yes, it is breath size. And similar to height, it is an immutable characteristic as you can't change the size of your mouth and nostrils (without surgery), thus can't change the size of your breath. I tend to prefer big breath women, as there is more warm fluffy breath to play around with, but don't mind women with small breaths if they have other attractive characteristics.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/22 02:12 PM
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yeh I agree with all you said...what I meant was while the higher on the social pyramid a woman stands the higher her demands are...the reason women are so high on social pyramids these days is because of the gynocentric society we live in which gives women lots of support (ergo the basic needs met statement)...100 years ago women were not as high on social pyramids.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/22 02:12 PM
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That's why I said 'or so I hear'. Personally I don't really care as long as she's loyal. Also want someone who is my equal, like having a job and having caught all 151 pokemon.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/22 01:53 PM
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They don't settle for lower because they don't have to, or can afford not to. Back in the old days grandma had to rely on grandpa for financial provision and protection. Now daddy government stands in with job offers, child support, college education opportunities, police protection, so men's necessity to women has been replaced and diluted. Thus they don't settle because their basic needs are met and they can afford to aim high even if it means being unrealistic. Grandma told me how she envies …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/22 01:47 PM
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just evidence from certain youtube videos, quarantined reddit subs, locker room chats with the boys, reinforced by observations from nightclubs in how easy girls there are. No I don't look up stats and studies to verify claims like that...what kind of loser would I be to do that when I could instead be doing meaningful stuff like slaying League of Legends 💁‍♂️
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/22 01:38 PM
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Anyone know what costume I should wear to help me get laid at Halloween parties? I have pirate, roman senator, scary clown, and witch doctor as options.. The gigachad costumes were all out of stock unfortunately..
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/22 01:19 PM
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oh I know why...it's because in the old days, having a man as superior as can be ultimately increased her chances of her and her offspring surviving and thriving. my grandma always explained these stories of hypergamy to me before I went to bed. what I am unsure and curious about however is that a lot of modern women chase after the top men, and wind up getting pumped and dumped and put on rotation...are these women actually happy being treated as disposable compared to if they got in a loving c…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/22 01:15 PM
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trumps way of pronouncing huge aha...I find it hilarious
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/22 01:08 PM
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oh ok...well I guess since she used subset relative language then that's not apex fallacy then... have a cookie for winning...or a cow as I hear that's what t-rexes eat...
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/22 01:06 PM
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Not familiar with the China culture but I hear that there women have high standards in China, just as the west...
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/22 01:03 PM
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erm what? women's body counts are yugeee these days...or so I hear...
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/22 01:02 PM
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on first glance of 'many women who are...' I interpreted it same as I did many men, that they were talking about most women...but after reading it clearlier I see what you mean. I guess if going according to your interpretation, then yeh I agree her statement would be saying that the men who are getting sporadic casual sex call themselves single. she did fail to mention the men who call themselves single but are not getting casual sex tho...
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/22 12:57 PM
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No she starts with saying 'many men', thus her meaning the majority of men...then continues to say 'who are getting sporadic casual sex'... 'who are getting sporadic casual sex' is an adjective to the noun of 'many men', so she is using that adjective to describe many men, thus assuming that many men get sporadic casual sex... oh wait you are interpreting it differently than I...you are seeing it as a noun rather than an adjective...
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/22 12:45 PM
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'many men who are getting sporadic casual sex describe themselves the same way'...they literally say many men, and continue on to state that many men are getting sporadic casual sex...when that only happens to the top men. don't get me wrong, I'm more jealous than anything, that women can live in a reality where what it means to be single is no commited relationships instead of being touch-starved, affection-starved, sex-starved and companionship-starved for long periods of time...while at the s…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/22 12:39 PM
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wow unironic apex fallacy.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/22 12:29 PM
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As the 5'5 guy similar to your story, who is working on being attractive, I hate realities like these
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/22 03:13 AM
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This is so wrong. While women are the filter of humanity, their filter criteria is for outstanding man of the stone age. In other words, physical strength, height, muscles, aggression, violence, drive, ambition, status, physical dominance, social dominance, competence etc, all these traits that turn women on are traits of outstanding men in the stone age, as they are indicators of protection and provision in the stone age. Of course, women are not alone in that regard, the traits that turn men o…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/22 07:29 PM
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I totally understand the women here who say they started out being kind but based off negative real life experiences, then changed their behavior to being cold and standoffish. However I do wonder if women take this thought a level further, and realize that if they can change their behavior based off negative experiences, that men can change their behavior based off negative experiences too, and become what women call misogynistic. And when they realize that their behavior is what causes misogyn…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/22 03:30 PM
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What is love? Is it like a dove but flies lower?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/22 01:02 PM
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Because sex is women's main form of power. Make sex available to all, and women's main form of power go away.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/22 11:14 AM
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Non-chad men on dating apps are like the people who are so thirsty they drink swamp water. The lizard brain needs overtakes the rationale brain.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/22 10:04 AM
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While men wanting women for access to sex is a thing...the real redpill here is that if all men were gay and uninterested in women sexually, women wouldn't have all the privelleges and power in society that they currently have.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/22 09:47 AM
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Bluepillers
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/22 05:54 AM
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yeh i noticed this too, in that how women feel about you and around you affects things, not just how you look to her.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/22 12:58 PM
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throwaway164 woke up and spoke facts
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/22 12:56 PM
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you dropped this 👑
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/22 12:25 PM
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🧢 all you need is to follow the two rules
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/22 07:29 AM
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This "not a rule based game based on fairness, and just because you were dealt a shitty hand doesn't mean others have to accomdate you" actually is a life approach, but feminists only use it when benefits them, i.e. in dating. Let me put this mindset in another perspective. Why should we have welfare for poor people? Just because they are in a shitty situation doesn't mean society has to accomodate them. Why should we have research for terminal illnesses like cancer? Just because some people are…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/22 03:40 PM
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Rofl💀🤣
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/22 10:39 AM
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A job, academic education, similar interests. Just a job and academic education 90% of women meet that requirement. Somewhat similar interests narrows it down to 70%. Which is in line with what I was saying, that men's requirements are pretty basic, as in any basic bitch/average woman can achieve it. Now look at women's requirements, just the 6 6 6 combined, and that goes to less than 20 percentile. The women requirements calculator says 6 6 6 is the 0.25% of men, https://igotstandardsbro.com/re…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/22 12:42 PM
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Okay I'll bite...what standards/conditions do you have? And how many do your current partner meet? Let's lay dem cards on the table
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/22 09:40 AM
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In your world it's a short form for uncouth individual no understand what practical means
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/22 09:38 AM
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Did you know that the opposite sides of a die will always add up to 7? Oh and that 'spoonfeed' is the longest English word whose alphabets are in reverse order? Those are examples of meaningless facts that don't have any impact on anyone's life. So is the theoretical fact that romantic love is conditional. What does have an impact on people's lives, is the practical fact that a man's love is pretty unconditional while a woman's love is very conditional. For the majority of men, the conditions th…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/22 09:09 AM
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Ugh why do women do this...is it really that tough to admit that women are more selective, exclusive, pragmatic and ruthless in romantic love than men are? A man's love is like a supermarket, in theory entry is conditional-dont carry weapons, don't be a hooligan, in practice however entry is pretty unconditional, any basic individual can easily enter. A woman's love is like an Oscars Gala event, in theory it's conditional, and in practice it's very conditional too - only the top percentile of so…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/22 07:46 AM
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Specific to romantic love, woman's love is extremely conditional, man's love is pretty unconditional.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/22 03:02 AM
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How do you show your style and personality on dating apps? That's where I try to meet women 95% of the time...
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/22 04:55 AM
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5 years is a long time, and an 8-9/10 physique is top quality congrats on the dedication and results. How did you build a 8-9/10 physique as a short guy? Like I've only started going to the gym a few months ago, and am aiming for the swimmer's type of build, but I don't feel like it's achievable (the swimmer's build or 8-9 physique) because of the short height. So like how did you do it do you focus on compound exercises, or mostly shoulders and chest with weights or just through bodyweight exer…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/22 04:15 AM
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Okay what's your secret then? To getting lots of women even when you're short...
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/22 02:34 PM
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Stop the 🧢. At 5'3 it doesn't matter what you do you'll still get treated as invisible. I say this as someone who is just a few inches taller.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/22 11:35 AM
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So much this tbh. I wasn't always like this. I sometimes use the emotional wheel https://feelingswheel.com/feelings-wheel.jpg to self assess my emotions towards life's events, and the main emotions I feel from dating is despair (powerlessness), hurt (disappointed), bitterness (indignant), and let down (resentful). Powerlessness because I can't change the immutable traits that women prioritize highly for attractiveness (like height), disappointed at all the rejections, bitter and resentful at the…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/22 07:44 AM
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Just curious..what is value? I feel like value is subjective..like some value looks, some money, some social status, some value fun, some value deep talks, some value knowledge in a certain hobby etc etc.. So how can we know what value to build or demonstrate?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/22 12:38 AM
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Ahh the DENNIS system...
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/22 10:56 AM
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The top men are better off than the average women. The average women are better off than the average men. The bottom women are better off than the bottom men. Basically being a man is great when you're at the top percentile. Other than that, women have easier lives. However I wouldn't change my gender, as I find alot of modern women waste their easy lives living in the moment, and consequences are more dire in the long term. Whereas a man, while having tougher challenges than women, use that to …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/22 04:41 PM
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It's funny that you say how self improvement in the context of getting a woman to like you is a negative thing. I have passions and my self improvement are mainly directed towards these passions, rather than self improvement towards being more attractive to women. And so the responses I get is 'if you don't self improve to be more attractive how can you expect a woman to like you'. Seems like a damn if you do damn if you don't scenario. Self improve on passions, blame men for not self improving …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/22 09:51 AM
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I dunno about this. I do have a higher purpose, but I still feel core desires. Like I still feel hungry when I don't eat food, and thirsty when I don't drink water. And late at night when I go to sleep, I still desire for the warm body of a woman, or sometimes I desire to have a woman to cook and have dinner with, go to movies with, or go travelling with. I admit however that I find having a higher purpose does take the focus off the desire for a woman, but not completely as I still feel it ever…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/22 09:46 AM
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This is what's ironic about the article. The fact that it asks men to get better (albeit at mistaken aspects like 'communication'), while women never make an effort to get better due to having no incentive and because society tells them they're already perfect they way they are.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/22 03:11 PM
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While I am aware of the loneliness of the average male and know the cause, I do wonder why these life satisfaction, depression, anxiety, self harm stats is getting worse for young women. Especially since they have everything they had that their mothers, grandmothers, and greatgrandmothers generations never had. All the rights, opportunities, privelledges, support and all that previous generations women didn't have.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/22 02:59 PM
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So true. Bluepilled articles like these that don't address the real fundamental causes because it might be uncomfortable, are why the manosphere is growing.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/22 02:52 PM
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Right there. You self improve for yourself rather than to make yourself attractive to someone else. And that's what most people including me want, to self improve for ourselves and do what we like, what we want to improve for ourselves to reach our goals. However, to meet women's expectations, sometimes we are required to self improve on things we don't care about. Simple example being if introverts are bad at socializing, and they don't really care about it by itself, but dating requires it...s…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/22 06:36 PM
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You didn't answer my question...what self improvement have you done to be more attractive/get relos?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/22 05:33 PM
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I think we differ too much in our views, for example I see alot of undesirable women dating, but I don't see that with undesirable men. As for the future vision, I don't see the same future as you that there will be no consequences from this situation, neither do I share the same view as you that 'Chads can overpower the average guy', or the view that 'if a lot of random men don't get laid, it doesn't affect anyone but them', or the view that 'men of all types date' (from what I can see only goo…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/22 04:53 PM
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I think you misunderstood my question lol. When I asked if you thought looks were important in real life dating, I meant non-online dating...
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/22 03:37 PM
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So the good old days were the baby boomer days, same difference. Regarding your second and third paragraph,you dont think looks are important in real life dating?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/22 03:18 PM
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Money was a huge issue? You could easily buy a house and support a family on a single income alone...something that can't be done now. I guess what you're talking about is from a woman's perspective, as for women money was a issue and marriage was necessary for survival. I don't deny those days for women was comparatively harder than now. As a sidenote, I do find it kinda ironic and sad tho that modern women have all the things the women in the past didn't have, all the rights and freedoms, yet …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/22 03:01 PM
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Your point about undesirable women, and that men should date them coz undesirable women deserve love too...Unlike what you said, that has already happened. It's called body positivity, sexual liberation, you should accept me for who I am mentality. Think about it, if a guy says he doesn't want to date a chick who is fat, who is promiscuous, who is a single mom, if he said it in the 1950s, what would happen? Everyone will agree. However if he said it in 2022, he would be vilified for being shallo…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/22 02:52 PM
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I hear of the good old days where Gen X and older Millenials didn't have competition from Tinder and social media. And going back further, I hear of the good old days in the 50s where all a man has to do to get a loving wife was have a job and be a good citizen. Those are some of the examples of the times I'm referencing. To put it in another way, here is a thought experiment. If the mothers of women these days in my age group (18-25), had the same demands as women these days, would a substantia…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/22 12:33 PM
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That is where we differ. I do believe there are solutions. This unfairness we're talking about, is also called, inequality. Take wealth inequality for example. Sure, there will be people who go their whole lifes without being able to afford to eat at high end restaurants, and there will be people who go their whole life living under the poverty line, similar to how you say there are people who go their whole lives without romantic love. However, as you are undoubtably are aware of, there are cer…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/22 12:27 PM
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Well there are the studies that show 30 percent of men aren't having sex. And then there is also observable reality. I'm in the 18-25 age group and from what I observe, the guys have a tough time getting dates while it's easy peasy for the girls. Also all the girls gravitate towards the good looking bad boy type of guys. So observable reality and studies, and internet YouTube videos, is where I draw my conclusions from. I'd also add that in that study you quoted, just because a guy is in that 70…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/22 06:59 AM
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The main point of the post was that societal conditions skew things in women's favour...
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/22 06:38 AM
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Take away the regular companionship and intimacy that she gets, and yes she would suffer. One thing I would point out here is that women get intimacy much easier than men, not just from the partners, but from their girl friends too, with all the hugging, touching, kissing amongst girl friends. This rarely happens to men, who don't get intimacy from their guy friends.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/22 06:36 AM
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But the dating market was better and fairer than now.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/22 06:24 AM
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I'd compare not having intimacy to eating KFC for the rest of your life. You can definitely feel full for the rest of your life if you only eat KFC for the rest of your life, but it's not healthy, and you'd be missing out on good things, things that are tasty, and things that are healthy for you. Another example would be smartphones and Internet. Theoretically they're a want, but in practical terms they're a need. Also, not sure if you're a man like me, but men's strong sex drive is one of the b…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/22 06:22 AM
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You need food to live short term. However a long term starvation of intimacy and companionship will have a negative impact. If companionship and intimacy was not a need, people wouldn't have suffered poor mental health in lockdown. I admit men deal with it better tho, during lockdown it was mostly me female friends who said they couldn't deal with the lack of companionship, intimacy, not seeing their friends and boyfriend.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/22 05:03 AM
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Skewed in men's favour? Dating apps, social media, feminism based opportunities, all skew things in women's favour..why do you think south Korea men elected a antifeminist president? Divorce law was more of a put off thing which discourages men from marriage. Other laws exist too, like welfare laws for example, which women benefit more from. Men are majorly responsible for production of GDP of a country and protection of it, men's gender based roles so to speak. However now women forego their ge…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/22 04:39 AM
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Not just me...a large portion of men. To answer your question, dating apps, social media, financial independence of women, unreasonable standards, the you only deserve the best mentality of feminism, and the government laws which benefit women mostly, like welfare and divorce. Of all those the only factor I'm okay with is financial independence of women.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/22 04:09 AM
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So if inflation raised groceries prices to 5x the average weekly wage, you'd just go with those 3 options? I think not. Societal conditions like these when a substantial group of people don't get their basic needs due to insane demands, are when uprisings and revolutions happen...which is what is bubbling in dating in society now.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/22 03:55 AM
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What makes me a catch is I caught all 251 pokemon. My flaws are some of them I used a Great Ball or Ultra Ball rather than a Poke Ball.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/22 02:56 AM
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I know this is a late reply, but I was thinking about what you said, on the topic of beliefs, or in your words, assuming. Like for example you said to assume that I'm funny and awesome, assume friendship can weather challenges, assume women worried what I think of them etc, these are all beliefs. So like while I do admit that beliefs do play a part in shaping our reality, consider what happens when life throws you an experience contrary to that belief...and if it happens multiple times...Wouldn'…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/22 02:31 PM
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Yeh I admit I'm not the best at being sociable and likable so there's room to grow there. How bout physique...Would going to the gym and getting a fit muscular physique help with getting chicks or does that work only for men average height and above?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/22 12:38 PM
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So what if I identified my issue but it's not something I can change? I'm the first option as I have quite a few positive traits, but I also have some negative traits like being 5'5. What can I do with that negative trait?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/22 11:55 AM
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That's interesting to read. What actions did your partner take to navigate social situations better? Asking as my therapist has said that I show signs of having slight Aspergers, and I do struggle in navigating social situations, not so much in a social anxiety way but in a socially clumsy way. I've tried practising through online chatting in stuff like dating apps or discord, but that's limited to the amount of matches I get.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/22 07:34 PM
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That's what I mean. Feminists complain about finances and lifestyle, because they aren't at the top of the financial lifestyle hiearchy, but not attractiveness because they are at the top of the attractiveness/reproduction hiearchy. This is what I mean by empathy, which I guess could also mean resonate more with: Poor person: omg I'm working too many hours at my job while not getting paid enough, I hate the patriarchy/market conditions/government that makes this happens, especially rich people a…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/22 01:45 AM
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I wonder if OP would apply this same phenomenon to finances too. That poor people aren't necessarily nicer and kinder than rich people, and that there are rich people who are great human beings, and poor people who are nasty, a phenomenon that I have found to be true. As opposed to the widespread belief that rich people are assholes and poor people are wholesome souls. Just saying this as I feel like both these demographics, the poor and the unattractive, have the same thing happened to them. To…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/22 01:05 AM
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While your suggestions of group, club, social events etc are good, and even disregarding ROI analysis, there are like obstacles and setbacks to socializing you know. Like for example I was talking this cute cashier at the convenience store today. I was like "Did you get new glasses", and she was like "I did haha", and I was like "You look different, more chemistry teacher-y", and she was like "oh no, that wasn't the aim". And I just stupidly froze, as I didn't know what to respond to that, partl…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/22 01:55 AM
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While it is kinda important to me, as in I'd like to, I'd say I prioritize it at like 5/10, compared to fitness and career which I'd prioritize at 10/10. The reasons I prioritize it at like 5/10 are stated above in my reply to ddouchecanoe. I also went to therapy and got evaluated as having an avoidant attachment style due to childhood upbringing, however am not sure if that's relevant to socializing.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/22 12:20 PM
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There's a low(er) ROI on socializing. Two of my close friends whom when they moved away, I completely lost touch with one of them as I was waiting for them to initiate but they never did, and the other slowly grew distant. All that time spent hanging out, and just like that, move away and bam, gone. There's also the thing where I'm not super good at socializing. As in I'm not super great at bantz, jokes, being charismatic so to speak. So like, the amount of people I succeed in connecting with at…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/22 12:15 PM
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While all this is true, I find in reality it's tough to implement. Like for example I work 50 hours a week, fitness takes 10 hours a week, having some me time to reflect introspect and reading time to read takes another 10 hours, cooking and general chores take another 10, and there is barely many hours left for socializing. How do you approach this then when life gets in the way of developing a social sphere?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/22 04:50 AM
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Hahahahaha I didn't know shopping was dangerous and job interviews were adventurous.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/22 09:26 PM
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Philosophically speaking from a personal pov I don't understand the logic of this. Like I derive fulfilment, satisfaction, a sense of being a valuable human being, when I am useful or capable, but I derive no satisfaction/fulfilment/sense of value from being good looking/attractive, nor can I see any benefits (besides dating and social life). So while I do observe that yes women like good looking men, I don't understand the logic behind it. I have to admit I personally prioritize work and career…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/22 03:54 AM
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Women vote towards what benefits them and them only. Darwinist systems benefit them in dating as they can get intimacy easily anyway, and safety nets and socialists systems benefit them in daily life as not many are rich, and most could use the financial help.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/22 12:52 AM
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There is a difference in results due to evolution. As women were always evaluated by their looks, over thousands of years they evolved to be prettier. Men were always evaluated by their utility and capability rather than their looks, so over thousands of years evolved to be useful as opposed to good looking. From a personal feeling pov, I personally prefer to be capable and useful rather than good looking. Sadly I find that's no longer enough to get a woman these days.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/22 05:44 PM
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I laughed so hard at this 😂🤣🤣. Women want to connect with high value men, not 'other humans'. Stop the 🧢.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/22 06:32 AM
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Work makes having a social life difficult *shrugs
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/22 06:29 AM
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Singers being redpilled before red pill was a thing lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/22 07:18 AM
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Your bout of touch starvation in lockdown is the normal reality for most men including me. Most women underestimate how easy and frequently they get affection and intimacy, until they don't. Most men rarely get affection and intimacy on a regular basis so fare better in lockdown.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/22 02:57 AM
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How do you go directly to the source? Without using dating apps.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/22 03:04 PM
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Strongest bond is family https://i.kym-cdn.com/entries/icons/original/000/037/639/torreto.jpg
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/22 09:59 PM
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One minor error there. The system forced monogamy for both men and women. Men in the short term so that low quality men would be paired with a woman. Women in the long term so that when they lost their looks at 35+ they would still have someone to be with, rather than just being replaced by a younger 20 year old woman, and winding up alone for the rest of her life. In short monogamy was for the benefit of both the average men and average women.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/22 04:13 PM
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