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| 1 | If being a slut is so empowering, why are sluts ashamed of being one?The moment a bunch of men open their traps to the public about preferences, they are shamed. 100% honesty is never a good idea when you're dealing with emotional beings. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/06/15 10:25 AM |
| 1 | Both pills, why aren't male virgins (younger than 24 y.o.) as desirable as female ones?Are you doing anything about you psychological issues? Anxiety and depression can really hold you back. Easier said than done tbh. I've spent my entire life telling people I'm alright so it's like a programmed instinct these days. My father suffers from depression as well so my parents would be understanding about it, but I don't really have any major life problems to deal with so it just doesn't seem worth the effort. If it ever starts to affect my education then I'll see someone at University … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/06/15 08:24 PM |
| 4 | Both pills, why aren't male virgins (younger than 24 y.o.) as desirable as female ones?You seem to be determined to convince yourself that these girls will laugh at you, gossip about you and will never, ever want to have sex with you. I've already said I don't think people will laugh at me. I guarantee it'll be a talking point though, I'm a good looking guy (without wishing to brag) who works out, my lack of sexual experience will be extremely unusual, perhaps indicative of mental disorders (I have social anxiety and prone to depression so they'd be right). If I was an effeminate … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/06/15 11:00 AM |
| 6 | Both pills, why aren't male virgins (younger than 24 y.o.) as desirable as female ones?If you are determined not to be helped, then be that way. I don't see where in my post you'd think that I'm "determined not to be helped". I 'be myself' all the time, I don't have the energy or will to act any other way, it hasn't got me anywhere. It doesn't mean I can't recognise why I'm not attractive. A shy and inexperienced woman would see you as gold dust. If you say so pal. I wonder where they're hiding? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/06/15 10:41 AM |
| 7 | Both pills, why aren't male virgins (younger than 24 y.o.) as desirable as female ones?I don't think my social circle would laugh at me or shame me to my face, they're nice and pleasant people, I wouldn't hang out with them otherwise. They'd still remain decent platonic friends. It would however definitely change their opinion of me and give me a reputation among the group and the other women they know (women gossip) as undateable. Like I said, I predict the reaction would be mostly one of pity. I'd get patronising remarks about how I should just 'be myself' and I'll find someone … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/06/15 10:19 AM |
| 6 | Both pills, why aren't male virgins (younger than 24 y.o.) as desirable as female ones?Yeh when it happens I'm just going to wing it and hope for the best. The person I lose it to will never know that she was my first even if I'm awful at it. Better to be known as a crappy lay (but a lay nonetheless) than someone who couldn't get any til he was over 20 years old. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/06/15 09:44 AM |
| 6 | Both pills, why aren't male virgins (younger than 24 y.o.) as desirable as female ones?I actually study in a female-dominated field (English) so to answer your condescending question, the majority of my time spent socialising is with women, and ones who decided to get a degree which involves reading and writing about literature at that. From spending enough time with women my age (I'm 21) I would bet everything I own that if any of them knew I was a virgin (I am), the most understanding and compassionate of them would pity me at best. It is not something you can disclose in this d… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/06/15 09:20 AM |
| 4 | Both pills, why aren't male virgins (younger than 24 y.o.) as desirable as female ones?whereas the girls you'll meet at ComicCon or at a MegaDeth concert won't. I think this will depend on how attractive they are. Attractive women can get laid easily and in their solipsism will think there's something wrong with a man who is a virgin. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/06/15 09:04 AM |
| 2 | Thoughts on Man's ¨Feminine Side¨?Yeh, it takes some major heavy shit for me to even get the feeling that I could cry. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/06/15 09:47 AM |
| 8 | What do you guys think about bullying?Erm, no. It actually destroys self-confidence and self-esteem for years to come, often making children retreat further into themselves and their 'nerd' fantasies. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/06/15 10:10 PM |
| 3 | question to both pills: do women expect more out of a partner as they get older?I really don't see how not wanting to be with a shit partner is some kind of innate drive that is apparently exclusive to women. No one should want that, male or female nor should they stick around for that. The point is, society says to men that women will love you for you, not your job or other tangible things. It's the mixed signals that early TRPers rage about. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/06/15 10:06 PM |
| 1 | If all non-alpha men on the planet disappearedI've heard it said that VR will be intentionally limited in terms of public entertainment systems because of just how immersive and addictive it will be. Large portions of the population will simply check out and work only as hard as is necessary to afford the technology, spending ALL their free time using it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/06/15 09:41 PM |
| 2 | If all non-alpha men on the planet disappearedbeta males will begin to act in solidarity with each other. Some of the time yes. Other times, they'll just retreat into isolation with videogames and porn. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/06/15 09:12 PM |
| 4 | If all non-alpha men on the planet disappearedIt'd be an absolute disaster. Civilisation is built on the backs of the exploited lower classes/beta males. Why would anyone even ask a question this stupid? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/06/15 07:30 PM |
| 1 | CMV: the opinions of /r/TheRedPill moderators, Endorsed Contributors, and Vanguards can and should be seen as being in line with the overall /r/TRP thought.I think this only really applies to alphas. Plenty of men are willing to settle for whatever sack of shit gives them the time of day, and will stay with her until she dumps him. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/06/15 07:28 PM |
| 3 | getting a male partnerIf I had the money it'd be a no-brainer. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/06/15 07:22 PM |
| 3 | CMV: There is no 'equal' relationship dynamicYes, expanding opportunities for women is a positive thing and feminism is good in this regard. Just a couple of points I'd like to make: I also want to say woman's role in the past were far more limiting than men's role. I think this is only significantly true for the above average of both genders. The average man was historically very limited in his opportunities for upward social mobility, limited to his 'average' profession just as the average woman was limited to her average house. This lim… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/06/15 10:36 PM |
| 4 | CMV: There is no 'equal' relationship dynamicWhen that's what is valued most, it's only a matter of time that woman feel their traditional roles are subservient rather than part of a whole. To be clear, I don't out right reject feminism, these are my observations. I totally agree. Ironically, it appears to me that modern lives defined by individualism and abstract notions of self-actualising tend to produce little more than dissatisfaction and existential angst. When you go through life thinking more about what life is giving you (money, s… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/06/15 08:44 PM |
| 4 | CMV: There is no 'equal' relationship dynamicTraditionally considered "submissive" roles deserve equal respect to roles considered "dominating". This is where feminism has, intentionally or not, had a negative effect on society. Feminists would say that submissive roles, generally assigned to women and labelled as feminine, were not respected, or not respected enough. This belief leads to "gender roles are bad". Also, 'The Personal is Political' can also easily lead to the belief that women who consciously choose and enjoy traditional gend… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/06/15 07:58 PM |
| 2 | AttractivenessLooks like sarcasm to me. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/06/15 07:43 PM |
| 20 | Women to earn more than men by 2024I suspect that things like alimony will suddenly start being thrown out or at least looked at somewhat objectively when women are more commonly on the receiving end of it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/06/15 07:39 PM |
| 1 | Men Not "Figuring It Out For Themselves"I started losing weight and got in shape after two rejections from girls I had oneitis with in my teens. I wasn't shamed but it was blatantly obvious what my biggest flaw was, and how I could improve myself. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/06/15 02:28 PM |
| 3 | Morality and Sexual AffairsIt become morally wrong if you know them personally as you're breaking an implicite trust. What if you know them personally but don't like them? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/06/15 03:34 PM |
| 3 | Why is "Slut-shaming" such a bad thing now, especially towards feminists and Blue Pill minded people?the average number of lifetime sexual partners for women is roughly 5. I'm assuming this is taken from the mouths of women, who tend to say a number lower than their actual count. I knew plenty of girls when I was about 16/17 that were already comfortably in double figures, and it wasn't seen as a big deal. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/06/15 02:18 PM |
| 3 | TRP philosophy only makes sense for lust/sex-centered relationships. It fails to address other forms of attraction (intellectual, emotional, spiritual) that can exist between partners.I guess where I fundamentally disagree with TRP is that, even if I personally can satisfy myself in those ways, I would still like my significant other to contribute to them uniquely. I don't think the TRP would disagree here. When I say the incentive is significantly diminished, this applies to women whose only contribution would be sexual. A lot of people, men and women, if they're being brutally honest with themselves would realise that they only stay in shit relationships because they're afr… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/06/15 08:06 PM |
| 10 | TRP philosophy only makes sense for lust/sex-centered relationships. It fails to address other forms of attraction (intellectual, emotional, spiritual) that can exist between partners.I think you're being a bit pedantic. I'm not talking about inner perfection and enlightenment, I'm talking about being basically satisfied and fulfilled on your own, with the only thing missing (and thus the only thing really longed for) being sex. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/06/15 04:00 PM |
| 13 | TRP philosophy only makes sense for lust/sex-centered relationships. It fails to address other forms of attraction (intellectual, emotional, spiritual) that can exist between partners.That doesn't make any sense. If all I need is sex it implies that I'm satisfied in all other areas. You can't be sexually satisfied by yourself. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/06/15 03:33 PM |
| 1 | RP: If you could be a young, attractive female for a week, what would you do?In the UK (my country): If you don't have dependent children (known as ‘single homelessness') and you are not deemed to be more vulnerable than other homeless people, you probably won't be entitled to housing. http://www.crisis.org.uk/pages/homeless-def-numbers.html Basically, if you're an unmarried/childless man, you're on your own. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/06/15 12:08 PM |
| 1 | RP: If you could be a young, attractive female for a week, what would you do?Do you want to know what happens to a man if he has no tangible value to deliver to other people (mostly in the form of currency or social influence)? He ends up homeless. It's inherent in a capitalist society that an individual is only worth anything so long as he contributes a monetary value. How are you so naive? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/06/15 07:37 AM |
| 2 | Let's go full circle. What type of body are YOU aiming for?seems pretty easy to obtain. Hmmm. My body fat % is just too high for it and tbh it'd take a drastic change in my eating habits and more cardio than I'm prepared to do to achieve that arrow effect just inside the hips. I'm a little more ripped than dad bod but I'd still have to up the intensity of my training AND strictly observe my diet (no alcohol or junk food) for about 3 months to get this kind of body....all to achieve the ideal of someone else. Meh. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/06/15 07:27 AM |
| 11 | TRP philosophy only makes sense for lust/sex-centered relationships. It fails to address other forms of attraction (intellectual, emotional, spiritual) that can exist between partners.TRP recommends you make yourself intellectually, emotionally and spiritually satisfied and secure on your own before everything else. Once this is achieved, the only thing missing is sexual satisfaction and the incentive for entering LTRs is significantly diminished. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/06/15 07:21 AM |
| 2 | Defining Alpha characteristics: Robert Baratheon vs Lord TywinThere is an exception to every rule. 1 dude from the mid-19th century. Are there any more? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/06/15 07:14 AM |
| 1 | TRP TBP, is lifting overrated?You really don't consider how many guys don't have the character to put in consistent hard work into anything and really fail these kinds of tests in life. I'm probably one of the laziest people I know. If I can hack it, anyone can. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/06/15 11:18 PM |
| 9 | How important is sex/relationships to you?And all our reproduction wont matter when the Universe ends. Nothing objectively matters more than anything else. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/06/15 11:06 PM |
| 4 | Defining Alpha characteristics: Robert Baratheon vs Lord TywinThink about why no bachelor will ever be President. In the upper echelons of society, you are expected to be settled down before you are trusted with any position of real power. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/06/15 11:02 PM |
| 2 | Why does TRP demand what it won't ask of itself?Because TRP isn't really a movement trying to change society and get people on-side. They don't give a fuck what you think, basically. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/06/15 10:51 PM |
| 1 | TRP is only needed for physically ugly guys (like me). Attractive people don't need it.I'm an exception to your rule. I'm not posting pictures so you'll just have to trust me but I'm a good-looking guy who works out regularly. I'm also a 21-year old virgin, never had a girlfriend, I've made out with 1 girl ever, at a nightclub, she approached me and asked for it then left after 10 seconds because it was terrible. That is the extent of my sexual experience. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/06/15 07:14 PM |
| 1 | CMV: Women love unconditionally, whereas Men are only capable of conditional loveAll romantic love is conditional. If you disagree, ask yourself this question: Do you love everyone you meet (relevant to your orientation)? If no, then you have certain conditions that must be met before you fall in love, thus romantic love is conditional. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/06/15 07:06 PM |
| 7 | Redpillers, Roosh says the wall is softer than you think and that women over 30 still have unlimited choices. Your thoughts?Can you explain how this logic follows? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/06/15 08:14 AM |
| 2 | WNBA lesbian stars are arrested for domestic violence. Are we going to see more of this as more people LBGT's get married?Of course we are. Women are no less violent and aggressive than men. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/06/15 08:12 AM |
| 1 | If female hypergamy isn't real, than why are there so many male virgins?Only if his plan is to pool finances and go up in terms of living standards. If he's happy where he is all you'll need is to be able to hold entertaining conversation. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/06/15 08:52 PM |
| 7 | If female hypergamy isn't real, than why are there so many male virgins?Oh I wouldn't suggest a woman should not care about education/career, you definitely should, just don't labour under the illusion that it's important in the dating world as many do. From the sounds of it, there are willing men in sight, just not ones you find attractive. You're also not fat, so unless you look like a haggard old witch you'll be able to attract an average to slightly below-average guy....you're not doomed to the bottom of the barrel unlike a lot of below-average men. This does me… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/06/15 03:41 PM |
| 8 | If female hypergamy isn't real, than why are there so many male virgins?I work tirelessly at improving myself everyday, and there's no willing man in sight. Firstly, how old are you? Secondly, in what sense are you improving yourself? Bear in mind most men don't give a shit about your education or career as long as they can basically relate to you. Honestly, where's there to go after TRP, if it doesn't 'work' for the less sexually Machiavellian in nature? Tbh I don't think it's really meant for people who aren't or are unwilling to be Machiavellian in most areas of … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/06/15 03:00 PM |
| 1 | Off topic, All Pills - June is Men's Health Awareness MonthI've been thinking about having a physical with my 21st birthday coming up, it seems appropriate. I think I'll wait until after my birthday celebrations so the alcohol (and possible drugs) doesn't skew results. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/06/15 02:35 PM |
| 10 | If female hypergamy isn't real, than why are there so many male virgins?So involuntarily celibate men are basically doomed to a sexless life unless they go find the lowest quality women available or pay for it. To be fair to TRP, they tell these incels to improve themselves. Your advice is to "suck it up" and "fuck those ugly, pathetic women". Correct me if I'm wrong, but, the beta male hate is strong in this one. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/06/15 02:19 PM |
| 2 | A true guide for avoiding red pill men:Well, I'll be doing a lot of manual work this summer between semesters so I need functional strength and more importantly stamina, so my workouts lately have been going for a kind of military type fitness and strength rather than male model aesthetics. The intensity of your workouts depends on your goals, bu at the end of the day humans didn't evolve to be sat on our ass all day getting fed packaged food. We spent hours hunting and gathering, at the very least I think it's a good idea to keep th… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/06/15 01:33 PM |
| 1 | Modern Relationships in Western Countries; A market failure that outside intervention.I totally agree. Private monopolies are the worst case scenario for any market (a Government must ultimately answer to the people) and somehow the Tories managed to convince people that it's the best. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/06/15 10:05 AM |
| 1 | Modern Relationships in Western Countries; A market failure that outside intervention.As you might expect, the quality of the food and the service is going to be terribly shitty though.... But thats the socialist solution to hunger. Hmmm, this is not necessarily the case. Perhaps you are comparing the service you experience from state-run services in America to private services in America. It's not necessarily an indictment on nationalised services and industries across the globe. Here in the UK, the NHS is in my opinion a far better system than the American one. Most people aren… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/06/15 09:41 AM |
| 1 | huffington post swings and misseswould it be in a nightclub? At college in a country where the legal drinking age is 18...erm yes? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/06/15 09:18 AM |
| 6 | A true guide for avoiding red pill men:husband is naturally skinny so does not lift Just curious, I don't see how the second part follows the first part. Are you saying he thinks he doesn't need to lift because he's skinny? This is nothing to do with TRP. People need regular exercise regardless of their natural shape. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/06/15 09:10 AM |
| 0 | If there were a female equivalent to TRP, what would it have to say about men?You're not looking hard enough. Probably not. Am I missing out on much? I think at college age (21 in a couple of weeks) rather than being liberated, so many people seem to reinforce their barriers. I know so many people superficially but I don't think I truly know anyone there after recently coming home for the summer. The thing is, I don't think I met anyone worth the effort to truly know. I met a group of people that on aggregate just seemed like the same bunch of people I knew at school, wit… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/06/15 09:11 PM |
| 9 | Do you guys realize that a lot of us sometimes **hate** the fact that The Red Pill works as well as it does?He was obviously unsuccessful before swallowing TRP, otherwise he wouldn't have bothered. Is it wise that he gambles on his future, confused and lost in the dating world in the hopes of finding 'The One'TM? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/06/15 05:31 PM |
| 9 | If there were a female equivalent to TRP, what would it have to say about men?Okay, take a room of ~50 people at a bar, nightclub, college social event (where I'd wager most TRPers will be applying game). The extent to which a person is unique will most likely be primarily their major, which men don't really care about (unless they happen to be doing the same thing or it overlaps with their hobbies or something). People have subtly unique personalities, but those subtleties can take weeks to unearth before they even begin to affect you in interactions as people erect a pu… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/06/15 11:58 AM |
| 2 | Different people have different reasons for opposing TRP. How many people have my kinds of reasons?I can't disagree with your logic but doesn't it destroy monogamy? Why should someone commit to one person? What if they see a hot guy out one day and she's feeling horny? You understand why both men and women value sexual restraint in this regard, right? Sex isn't just some leisure activity, it entails emotional bonding. When you have sex with someone, hormones are released that create a stronger bond with that person. It's not just the equivalent of fucking a dildo. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/06/15 11:44 AM |
| 20 | If there were a female equivalent to TRP, what would it have to say about men?Statistics are useless on an individual. Everyone is an outlier in some way. Except it works all the time, marketing is built on stereotyping. The people who think they're unique are just another demographic. I mean technically you're genetically unique but very few people are special in any significant way. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/06/15 11:33 AM |
| 1 | How many of you actually think GamerGate is real?That said, because the anti-feminist side of GamerGate (aside from Zoe Quinn) hasn't delved into the murky waters of sexual strategy and instead focused on the ethics and integrity of videogame journalism (a lot less emotionally touchy), they don't seem to be running into the same problems of interpretation and causing offence that much of the manosphere does. MRAs would be the same if they didn't approach their problems by assuming for themselves a position of weakness and trying to appeal to t… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/06/15 08:15 AM |
| 1 | Should a woman be obligated to step in and try to stop a man from being attacked if she's the only one around?Depending on who sees it, you could get in trouble for manhandling or assaulting someones kid. The truth can be twisted any number of ways, especially if the kid has rich parents who can get good lawyers. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/06/15 08:08 AM |
| 2 | "When unattractive men have hit on me, I have honestly been insulted. It's sort of like having an amazing degree and work experience, and someone seriously asking you if you want a minimum wage job." Thoughts?degree of slovenliness, Well you can be offended by a smelly person before they even start talking because it's just common human courtesy to have good hygiene. I think the context of this discussion is on physical attractiveness, assuming they'd showered before going out. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/06/15 07:06 PM |
| 4 | "When unattractive men have hit on me, I have honestly been insulted. It's sort of like having an amazing degree and work experience, and someone seriously asking you if you want a minimum wage job." Thoughts?If I get compliments from anyone, even other guys, I'm sincerely flattered...mainly because I just never get any and it'd be really cool if it happened one day :'( | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/06/15 07:03 PM |
| 1 | Why is all PIV sex rape? I don't understand?due to the social pressures put on women from birth to act in male interest consent cannot be freely given to an act that can lead to something as inherently harmful (to their mind) as pregnancy. Ah, she's one of those feminists who falls into the trap of denying female agency and intelligence. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/06/15 07:01 PM |
| 2 | Men of PPD: How do you like being sexually objectified?Objectification means to be looked at through the lens of another person's wants/needs. I think it's very rare that a human being won't do this to some extent to every single person they meet. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/06/15 01:09 PM |
| 1 | Should bystanders try to interfere and stop what they believe to be an ongoing sexual assault or rape?as long as I'm not in any personal danger. So you're not putting yourself at any risk? How brave. If a man gets involved there's a good chance he'd be attacked for getting involved, and probably arrested afterwards if the police are on the scene. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/06/15 01:03 PM |
| 2 | A question about the psychological effects of liftingNot TRP but I lift. To me it feels good knowing that with each session my body has improved. Even if I have a bad day, when I lift I know I've done something productive, I've made myself stronger and better-looking. I don't do cardio to lose weight, I just do it to maintain current levels of stamina and fitness, so whilst I know it's productive and necessary, it doesn't really have a qualitative improvement. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/06/15 12:58 PM |
| 2 | TRP in mediaVery much so. It's very well done, I highly recommend it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/06/15 07:03 AM |
| 1 | TRP in mediaBlue Valentine is dripping in TRP. If there was anything I would put on the redpill sidebar it's this movie, it basically contains the entirety of it in one case study. The Place Beyond the Pines also has many TRP examples. It seems like the writer/director Derek Cianfrance views the world through a fairly RP lens. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/06/15 10:11 PM |
| 1 | Question for BP - where does male privilege rank compared to white privilege and cis privilege?I don't think there's any evidence of a claim as strong as that. Fortunately we have science to help us here and as long as we think unfair treatment and discrimination are bad things, we can say with certainty that there is something wrong with patriarchal societies. Maybe I'd retreat from my original statement on patriarchy and explore whether discrimination, and prejudice or privilege for certain things, is hardwired into the human brain. Can we even make decisions as a society without prejud… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/06/15 10:40 AM |
| 1 | Question for BP - where does male privilege rank compared to white privilege and cis privilege?With that said though, if numbers change and women came to dominate leadership positions but everything else somehow stayed the same, then yes we'd still be in a kind of patriarchal society. This would be like a number of matrilineal or women dominated societies where the norms and set up is still essentially patriarchal. It seems to me like we're hardwired to create essentially patriarchal societies, if we're to accept your earlier definition of patriarchy (divorcing the term from its misandris… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/06/15 09:54 AM |
| 1 | Question for BP - where does male privilege rank compared to white privilege and cis privilege?a set of ideas and norms within a society that tends to favour men, or at least masculine characteristics/traits etc. The Marxist would say that the ideas and norms of a society are propagated by the ruling class, which would historically-speaking be men. In the Western world, they would also be white. So in roundabout ways it's basically blaming rich white men by association. If the ruling class was predominantly women, do you think we'd still live in a patriarchal society? Where do you think t… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/06/15 09:03 AM |
| 0 | Is it plausible that feminism causes women to see sexism where there isn't any and men not to see it when it appears?Bullshit, I hear both every time I hear either. It's impossible to tell what's true because there are so many sources arguing both positions and I don't have a sufficient understanding of economics to interpret the source data (and given the topic, I'm the only person I'd trust to do so in an unbiased way). I'm in the UK so it might be different than the US, we do have much stronger worker's rights here, but I know that here it's illegal to differentiate in pay along lines of gender. For the sam… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/06/15 08:39 AM |
| 2 | Mattress Girl Made a Porno! What do you guys think?This is just fucking sad. What a broken individual. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/06/15 06:06 PM |
| 3 | Can a slut use tips and various strategies to improve to the extent that she can get commitment from a decent man?i think 15 is the cut off point where you definitely become a slut I'm 20 and just finished my first year of college, so most of the women I know are 18-22. I'd estimate that over half of them are comfortably in double figures. A lot of them were getting regular sex at 14-16. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/06/15 08:02 PM |
| 6 | Reviewing the OK Cupid study: What it really says vs what the red pill claims it says.My whole point is really that an opening message doesn't really mean anything. A reply means that they've acknowledged your existence and not much more. "Hey, what's up :)", "not much". A message and reply that gets me nowhere, and probably kills the interaction in its tracks. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/06/15 07:52 PM |
| 6 | Reviewing the OK Cupid study: What it really says vs what the red pill claims it says.Male attractiveness (sexual market value) includes a lot of things besides looks. When TRP says top 20% of men, they mean SMV. A physically attractive man who is timid and submissive will not be very successful. He'll occasionally get messages and be approached (in roundabout ways) in clubs but that doesn't mean he's getting sex. I speak from firsthand experience here. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/06/15 07:39 PM |
| 3 | When is someone using drugs/alcohol incapable of giving consent to sex?My point is, we've all done things we later regret while drunk. Perhaps regularly so. Your line of logic suggests that when that happens you've been wronged in some way. I don't do one night stands but if I did, I've had plenty of opportunities to sleep with unattractive women. I'm pretty sure I'd wake up and regret it afterwards (which is why I don't do it), but if I ended up going through with it, I wouldn't be able to point the finger at anyone else. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/06/15 06:50 PM |
| 6 | When is someone using drugs/alcohol incapable of giving consent to sex?I regret drinking too much the other night. Did the bar staff commit theft by accepting my custom which I enthusiastically consented to by walking up to the bar and asking for it? No. It was my own dumb fault, and I have nobody to blame but myself. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/06/15 03:55 PM |
| 1 | Question for TRP men: Are you worth being the sole motivation for a woman who is otherwise quite happy with her weight taking the effort to diet away ten pounds of fat? How many women with ten pounds that could reasonably be lost do you think would actually agree with you on that?I don't really care what a woman weighs (within reason) as long as she's not physically lazy. Everyone has 30 minutes every other day to do a bit of exercise (you don't need a gym membership). If you don't, you're working too hard, although tbf that probably isn't by choice. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/06/15 09:26 AM |
| 9 | [CMV] - 'lol virgin neckbeard' and other such insults are just new socially acceptable ways of bullying socially-awkward nerdy guys and other such unattractive beta males, coming full circle in enforcing gender roles.I'm against the idea of making fun of any virgin/fat guy just because that's how he is. But if someone is truly acting like a raving asshole and acting like a pompous jerk despite being unattractive and completely unaware of how obnoxious he really is, yep, it's worth remarking on. And it would be worth remarking on even if he was attractive, although the insult would be different. Oh I totally agree. It's interesting that a community will focus on an unattractive physical feature to identify an… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/06/15 08:10 AM |
| 4 | [CMV] - 'lol virgin neckbeard' and other such insults are just new socially acceptable ways of bullying socially-awkward nerdy guys and other such unattractive beta males, coming full circle in enforcing gender roles.Firstly I'm not TRP, I try to stay as neutral as possible. Also, it's an insult if it's intended as an insult. If I'm not insulted or offended by something, that doesn't change the intent. Context is everything in my opinion. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/06/15 08:04 AM |
| 2 | What do TRPillers actually mean when they say they see women "for what they are" ?You're probably right. The male advantage being that they can physically force a woman into doing what he wants. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/06/15 10:49 PM |
| 6 | Anyone else notice that bisexual women hold their male partners to a higher standard than their female partners?How do we know whether it's learned, or if women generally just aren't that attracted to a man when she realises he doesn't have the courage to ask her out? The alternative is, he's just not attracted to her, either way the status quo is maintained and she loses nothing. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/06/15 10:42 PM |
| 3 | The greatest threats to freedom today are NOT the ever-broadening definitions of sexual harassment and hate speechIn anarcho-capitalism, what is stopping a conglomerate of wealthy individuals and corporations from pooling together and monopolising important resources, backed by a private army? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/06/15 06:20 PM |
| 2 | The greatest threats to freedom today are NOT the ever-broadening definitions of sexual harassment and hate speechIn any kind of anarchy, whoever has the biggest sticks controls the resources. You'd eventually wind up back where you started, except you wouldn't even have the vote. Utopias cannot exist. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/06/15 05:39 PM |
| 4 | The greatest threats to freedom today are NOT the ever-broadening definitions of sexual harassment and hate speechit causes nothing but tyranny, misery, poverty, and death. This kind of blatant hyperbole is the reason I just can't take libertarians seriously. In an anarcho-capitalist state, all of these things would be exacerbated for the vast majority of the population. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/06/15 08:59 AM |
| 3 | Why are men and women unable to be friends?I suppose you're being sarcastic? There are varying degrees of friendship. Would you be able to share your deepest self with all your friends, trust them with anything, that they'll have your back when the shit really hits the fan? Would you say this to be true of even more than 1 or 2 of your current friends? I could certainly never say this of any woman I've ever known except my mother. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/05/15 10:28 PM |
| 3 | Why are men and women unable to be friends?It's easy to be friends with women. When I think about it, a lot of women can be easier to make casual friendships with than men. That said, there's always a barrier that prevents truly close friendship, where one can totally relax and express oneself. As an introvert I find this extremely difficult with anyone, I think there's only 1 person in my entire life I've been able to do this with, so maybe that's just my own personal issue. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/05/15 08:10 PM |
| 2 | Why do you assume Red Pill men hate women?I'm not making a judgment of better or worse here, just different. If that makes me sexist I don't really care. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/05/15 07:14 PM |
| 2 | Where do you think the stereotype that women all hate each other comes from?Because women know what other women are like ;) | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/05/15 09:10 AM |
| 1 | Why do you assume Red Pill men hate women?women are basically the same as men in important aspects No, they really aren't. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/05/15 06:48 PM |
| 9 | How many sexual partners makes a female unattractive for marriage?shows comfort with their sexuality Come on, this is not necessarily true. Not by a long shot. I get to enjoy the fruits of their past sexual experience. If they consider you attractive enough to share themselves fully in sexual terms. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/05/15 03:13 PM |
| 2 | CMV: Being emotional doesn’t make you weakIn a LTR relationship you obviously have to open up otherwise your woman will never feel comfortable. The thing to remember is that opening up should never be from a position of weakness or lack of control. It should always be framed in such a way that you're not dependent on the advice of support of the woman, and that you can handle things yourself. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/05/15 11:47 PM |
| 1 | Why are so many mass shooters male? Does TRP encourage the same attitude in men?To answer your question in the title, I don't know...do videogames, movies, music, whatever? How can you possibly prove it? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/05/15 07:03 PM |
| 2 | If companies shouldn't hire women because they can get pregnant, and alimony is unfair, how would women support themselves?I disagree, it might be good for the capitalist employer but it'd pretty much kill a huge chunk of the population's ability to affordably have children. You know that the cost of living wont go down significantly if this happened, right? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/05/15 05:19 PM |
| 3 | CMV it takes more self confidence to form genuine emotionally open relationship.It really comes down to what will work to your advantage. It's risk/reward. TRP is just highly sceptical about supposed potential rewards for opening up. What does one actually gain from someone else knowing your deepest, darkest shit? What emotional benefits are there to such a connection? One could say emotional security and comfort....but it's a double-edge sword because they now have access to the nuclear strike button. Hopefully you picked the right person to open up to, otherwise they'll d… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/05/15 11:31 AM |
| 3 | Sex and valueshe values him highly for his friendship In my experience this just isn't true relative to how men value eachother's friendships. It's a very rare woman who will ever go above and beyond for their male friend and have their backs when the shit hits the fan. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/05/15 08:10 AM |
| 24 | If companies shouldn't hire women because they can get pregnant, and alimony is unfair, how would women support themselves?The best way to end the prejudice against hiring women is to make maternity and paternity leave equal. This would mean raising paternity leave, which the capitalist and feminist alike have no interest whatsoever in doing. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/05/15 06:42 PM |
| 1 | Do you think it's true that women don't love men the way men love women ?I don't think unconditional love exists. Men's conditions for love are just different and usually more aesthetically-based. A man will be more accepting of character flaws, lack of resourcefulness etc. As Jim Jefferies says, "all we need is you" ;) It just traces back to what each gender finds attractive. If you're not automatically attracted to everyone you see of the opposite sex, then by definition you have conditions. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/05/15 10:10 PM |
| 2 | Do you consider big Hollywood directors like Joss Whedon or James Cameron, known for their strong female characters, to be alpha or beta?They're alpha for sure. You don't direct the kind of mega-bucks movies they have without being extremely good at managing people, which for a director is probably more important than having artistic genius (though it obviously helps to have both). You can bet when they're in the job that they do not suffer fools and do not take anybody's bullshit. They can write whatever fantasies they so desire, it doesn't really have much bearing on how they relate to people in a high pressure situation where … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/05/15 02:07 PM |
| 5 | What is a man's legitimate and effective defense against a mattress carrier?I don't have any advice for you, I just think it's such a fucking shame how sex is perceived by societies across the globe. There's so much fucking fear and insecurity surrounding it from all sides, despite how progressive and sex-positive people claim to be. We're such scared little animals desperately clinging to our fragile inflated egos and it makes me fucking sick. What is wrong with us? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/05/15 11:53 AM |
| 2 | Is shaming women for their bodily appearance (overweight or underweight) constructive? Why or why not?Well, yeah, TRP primarily talks about women....It's an isolated, non-mainstream forum where extreme views are expressed. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/05/15 08:42 AM |
| 1 | Is shaming women for their bodily appearance (overweight or underweight) constructive? Why or why not?30 lbs overweight isn't much. That's a bit of chub you can lose in 6 months. I'm talking about huge FAT guys. Like, what I used to be in my mid-teens, I was fucking obese. You have your own anecdote, I have personal experience. I lost weight very quickly when I hit the gym after a couple of rejections, and all of a sudden I went from being 100% invisible/mildly detestable, to getting double-takes from girls that had known me half my life but otherwise totally ignored me. I've seen the difference… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/05/15 08:37 AM |
| 0 | Is shaming women for their bodily appearance (overweight or underweight) constructive? Why or why not?I have never seen a pack of women wildly go after any and all fat men on twitter for an entire week Nope, fat men (and other unattractive males) are just invisible to the opposite sex. To women, they might as well not exist beyond immediate utility. Chris Christie probably gets laid regularly, but only because of his utility and resources. Considering the manosphere isn't really that big or mainstream, that this "pack" of men really wasn't that big, but rather a small vocal minority responding w… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/05/15 11:59 PM |
| 5 | Is shaming women for their bodily appearance (overweight or underweight) constructive? Why or why not?The very fact that you decided to start this thread, specifically about shaming women for their body, should say something about how much women are valued by comparison to men. You'll basically never hear sympathy for fat men, because unattractive males are bottom of the food chain. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/05/15 11:48 PM |
| 2 | The Double Standard on having...Standards?There is certainly a growing trend of women (not necessarily feminists) dissatisfied with their romantic/sex lives who basically cry "what is wrong with men", rather than being introspective and lowering their own standards. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/05/15 11:05 PM |
| 1 | Is it manipulation if a wife will only have sex with her husband after he does all the house chores?Of course it is. I wouldn't stand for it. Big decisions would have to be made and ultimatums delivered. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/05/15 10:54 PM |
| 7 | Understanding and living by Red Pill ideas would not improve my life, as a man, in any way.Sounds like you're part of the way there already. Much of the TRP is about smashing the illusion that women are basically good or better-natured than men, or in any way special, and that this flawed humanity applies to all women (AWALT). | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/05/15 11:23 AM |
| 1 | Is AWALT totally useless?I'm generally quite misanthropic so to me AWALT is just a subset of All People Are Like That. I personally don't trust anyone except my parents, and that's because they've proven to me my entire life that I can trust them with anything...If anything my father's strict principles of honour and trust have worked to his disadvantage in life and they've rubbed off on me to the point where I perhaps expect too much of people. Because it's TRP and thus focused on hetero sexual strategy, it's a caution… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/05/15 12:23 PM |
| 1 | Should Women who receive alimony do their Ex-Husbands Housework?Is there any reason you believe this, other than purely selfish ones? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/05/15 12:21 PM |
| 2 | Would you really rather live in a traditional society?Nope. So none of us really know what we're talking about, heh. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/05/15 08:38 PM |
| 1 | Would you really rather live in a traditional society?Meh...were you alive at the time? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/05/15 08:23 PM |
| 1 | Would you really rather live in a traditional society?Well by your definition I don't think we've ever been in a "traditional society". Having more than one romantic partner, a girl on the side, whatever you want to call it, has always been widespread. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/05/15 06:32 PM |
| 6 | Would you really rather live in a traditional society?The rise of the manosphere correlates with the beginning of of the economic crisis too. Yep. For a lot of men, cold hard reality hit them like a fucking train. Generation X were riding the wave of good investments and a favourable job market for the worker, older Millenials were just starting out promising careers. They had the rug pulled out from under them. I suppose for younger Millenials like me who have just hit adulthood post-crash, it's just a fact of life now that the world wont give you… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/05/15 05:06 PM |
| 3 | Would you really rather live in a traditional society?Plate Spinning wouldn't fly at all in that society. Have you seen Mad Men? The attitude back then was 'what the wife doesn't know wont hurt her'. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/05/15 04:56 PM |
| 5 | Would you really rather live in a traditional society?Not saying I agree with OP, just playing devil's advocate to further discussion. Crime and poverty have being going down since then. Is this the definitive measure of a society? Are people happier (if there's any meaningful way to quantify happiness) post-sexual revolution? I personally think it was a good thing, the 80s being a much worse decade in terms of its effect on the happiness of society in the short and long term. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/05/15 04:53 PM |
| 3 | Isn't it an extreme exaggeration to say that women never respect and never love betas ?You might be right but I just think dominance and assertiveness (which are surely core tenets of TRP), when used appropriately and proportionately, are absolute requirements for success in any field. E.g. A teacher must command respect from a room. A non-profit worker must fight for every inch in whichever cause he chooses. There is inescapably a hierarchical and domineering aspect in almost any walk of life. This is obviously not specific to TRP which is primarily about sexual strategy. The adv… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/05/15 03:19 PM |
| 0 | Is This a Toxic Relationship?Firstly, they're physically much weaker than men. Think about it along evolutionary lines, would it be a good idea for a pregnant woman or mother with infant children to strike out into the wilderness alone? Men evolved to work together to hunt fucking mammoths and protect the tribe from sabre-tooth tigers. We're built to face the monsters of this world, as a group. Women just aren't. It's just the way it is, it's not their fault so there's no point hating them for it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/05/15 03:07 PM |
| 4 | Isn't it an extreme exaggeration to say that women never respect and never love betas ?To me, a guy who is unable to successfully navigate communities and work environments sounds like a beta...? There's tons of recommended material in TRP on being successful in work environments. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/05/15 11:16 AM |
| 5 | Is This a Toxic Relationship?Submissive women who look for alpha males don't deserve any respect Why not? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/05/15 11:08 AM |
| 17 | Xpost from Femradebates - MAry Koss outright denying men can be raped.I don't particularly believe men are raped by women in any meaningful sense If you've been drugged, you can get raped by anyone, physical advantages don't matter. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/05/15 01:57 PM |
| 4 | BP: Would you say that the RP Advice/Tactics/Mindset works on younger, college aged females (18-23)Computers don't change the reasons for interaction and communication. The technology is just a tool. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/05/15 09:56 AM |
| 2 | BP: Would you say that the RP Advice/Tactics/Mindset works on younger, college aged females (18-23)Modern technological advances don't cancel out hundreds of thousands of years of human behaviour. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/05/15 09:48 AM |
| 0 | BP: Would you say that the RP Advice/Tactics/Mindset works on younger, college aged females (18-23)Also, the whole idea about the disposable male. I don't really understand it. Generally, men have worth because they can provide resources, and women have worth because they can raise children, but both seem equally important to the survival of the species. I think it's emergent from the relative biological insignificance of an individual man. The woman is more precious to reproduction, which is more important than anything else like resources. A tribe can survive on low resources albeit poorly,… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/05/15 08:31 AM |
| 2 | I often read here that being 'feminine' or 'masculine/alpha' affects how well your partner treats you. Is that advice true? Could it be harmful?She can do whatever she likes, but if she knows her man is weaker than him, I really doubt there's true respect there. I don't think unconditional love exists for either gender. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/05/15 06:30 AM |
| 1 | I often read here that being 'feminine' or 'masculine/alpha' affects how well your partner treats you. Is that advice true? Could it be harmful?Can you define toxic masculinity? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/05/15 06:27 AM |
| 2 | Men, Both Pills: If a girl your talking to tells you she wants a loving, sweet, kind gentleman to go out with, what's the first thought that comes to your head?Yep. I have no sympathy for people who complain about their dating life. Have some self-awareness and realise what your appropriate standards for physical attractiveness are, and act accordingly. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/05/15 09:57 AM |
| 3 | Bluepillers and Feminists: Why does anything related to the "manosphere" bother you so much?And why do you care? I'm sure plenty of feminist/'female spaces' make sweeping claims about men. I really couldn't care less. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/05/15 12:32 PM |
| 4 | Bluepillers and Feminists: Why does anything related to the "manosphere" bother you so much?The men on TRP hate me. Me, me, me. I, I, I. The world doesn't revolve around you. You don't matter anywhere near as much as you seem to think. It is this brand of narcissism which I can totally sympathise with the TRP about. Most people don't even know you exist and never will, people on TRP don't know enough about you to hate you. Christ this post is just dripping in victim complex. "waaa, there's a place on the internet that doesn't think I shit rainbows, waaa" | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/05/15 08:18 AM |
| 3 | RP and BP men, would you want your daughter/young female relative to fuck/date someone like you?Some of the more extreme executions of dread game seem to align very closely to textbook emotional abuse. Other than that I don't think so. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/05/15 09:53 PM |
| 1 | RP and BP men, would you want your daughter/young female relative to fuck/date someone like you?As long as they're not abusive, I honestly couldn't care less. It's not really any of my business who my female relatives date, hypothetical or otherwise. My daughters would be free to make their own mistakes and learn from them. I'd give them advice but allow them to make their own decisions as long as I feel they're safe. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/05/15 09:10 PM |
| 4 | Why aren't millenials banging?Hmmm, it doesn't look good. This effect could compound with the coming wave of mass automation and driverless cars, rendering a huge section of the working male population obselete. Very 'interesting' times ahead are the next 30 years. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/05/15 06:10 PM |
| 3 | Given that marriage provides numerous benefits for women and none for men, why are men the ones who propose? Shouldn't it be the other way around?I think as the trend towards women being primary breadwinners picks up speed, we'll see some significant chances to divorce law. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/05/15 05:30 PM |
| 10 | Why aren't millenials banging?man up Isn't that a rather patriarchal term? Why is it the man's responsibility? put in the work to take women out on dates The whole point is that most women are not worth all the "work". dwelling in their mom's basements watching porn. This doesn't just apply to basement-dwelling neckbeards. I'm in college, I go out clubbing at least once a week. I do well in school, have plenty of friends, I work out regularly (and have a good physique). Me and my friends aren't getting laid and we just don't… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/05/15 05:23 PM |
| 3 | Why aren't millenials banging?Either way, it doesn't seem like a good thing for our future. With regards to whom? There are still plenty enough people still willing to meet and procreate in order to continue the species. People also need to work to pay for wi-fi coverage for their porn and videogames so the capitalist machine will still function. I'd say the economic question comes down to a combination of both reduced quality and increased price (for less attractive men; the market is booming for attractive+confident men). … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/05/15 03:53 PM |
| 11 | Why aren't millenials banging?but the reward and the pleasure that you get from a real encounter tops the one you get from masturbating. Potentially, but not every time. E.g. if the other person is terrible in bed, unattractive, etc. Sometimes you really are better off just jerking off at home. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/05/15 10:56 AM |
| 5 | ROK's Aaron Clarey says men will be easily duped by the new Max Max movie!!! Will you heed his dire warning or go see it?The movie Haywire, starring a real life MMA fighter woman, actually had well choreographed fight scenes depicting her beating guys. She fought smart, utilized weapons from her environment, and she also didn't always win. Yeh. It was still pretty unrealistic, I mean a guy built like Channing Tatum with real training would probably put a woman in the hospital with one good right hook to the head. But it was all masterfully shot and choreographed so that you forget about pure realism. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/05/15 08:03 AM |
| 24 | Why aren't millenials banging?If you're an unattractive man, there is a relatively low ceiling to your sexual potential. Even if you hit the gym, present yourself well and express more confidence, realistically a lot of men are limited to average women. What I just described, the process required to land average women, is 1000x more difficult than just typing "porn" into google and voyeuristically and vicariously experiencing whatever sex act you like with some of the most beautiful women they will ever see. Sure, it's not r… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/05/15 07:47 AM |
| 1 | Can good looking men be betas?It doesn't matter whether or not the woman finds them attractive. The man must be the active, dominant agent otherwise he does not get laid. A woman who finds an hot but shy guy attractive is like a confrontation between two immovable objects. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/05/15 05:57 PM |
| 0 | Why do so few women/feminists lean in the libertarian direction, considering Ayn Rand was a such a huge influence on it?There was no incentive to not be an asshole and kidnap/rape any woman you got a boner for. Not if she had a protective father and/or brother with good standing in the tribe. I don't know how sexual relationships worked in prehistoric tribal societies, but she might already be 'taken/spoken for' by another man. Either way, safety depended on group cohesion. Don't piss off too many women in the tribe or you'll piss off your fellow men and you'll get kicked out to die alone in the wilderness. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/05/15 03:59 PM |
| 1 | No one tolerates TRP because TRP is intolerant to everyone elseSo do you think the legal age of consent should be raised? Because that's the only real answer to your problem. Fucking 18 year olds is perfectly legal and the only thing you're doing here is whining like a baby. Why do you care so much who 18-20 year olds are having sex with? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/05/15 06:27 PM |
| 1 | What is an expression of femininity?Eh...some people just don't want to see tits out in public. I definitely wouldn't want to see it if I was eating in a restaurant, it'd put me off my food. It's just not really necessary. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/05/15 06:22 PM |
| 1 | CMV: The definition of feminism should change to stop activists from getting unearned public support from a misunderstanding of termsMarxism =/= Communism. Marxism isn't a set of prescriptive political doctrines, it's an economic and sociopolitical worldview. Marx delineates what he believes is the nature of the capitalist system. He never told anyone to start a revolution and enforce the dictatorship of the proletariat. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/05/15 12:36 PM |
| 2 | TRP and the rain danceAs someone who holds a fairly misanthropic worldview, I think I come at a lot of TRP ideas from a position "yeh, that's most likely true, but it includes men as well". I see AWALT as denoting the idea that the integrity and moral beliefs of every woman have a price. Under the right circumstances they can be moulded or surrendered completely. This is also true of men, though. Maybe men have a higher threshold because they have greater capacity to physically defend and enforce their own agency and… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/05/15 12:25 PM |
| 2 | CMV: The definition of feminism should change to stop activists from getting unearned public support from a misunderstanding of termsdoesn't really get mentioned in the theory That's because it's not in the theory. Marxist theory is contained entirely within the works of Karl Marx. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/05/15 12:08 PM |
| 0 | What is an expression of femininity?Do you not think there is something unique about certain women and their nature? I've said it a few times here but some women just have a disarming, soothing and relaxing way about them (totally non-sexual) that absolutely cannot be achieved by a man even if they're copying the woman's actions. It's just a single unique thing that I'd define as the epitomy of femininity. I don't think it's just a social construct. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/05/15 11:40 AM |
| 0 | What is an expression of femininity?I think it's a great radical act to breastfeed your baby wherever you are. Seriously? We're reducing the word "radical" to include getting your tits out in public? Should we hand out Nobel Prizes for women who refuse to shave? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/05/15 11:37 AM |
| 7 | What should women do ?My default is to just refuse if anyone offers to buy me a drink. Fair enough, but... guys tend to get offended. This is not your problem. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/05/15 10:45 PM |
| 2 | What should women do ?Of course not, but make it clear whether or not the drink will increase the chances of sex. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/05/15 10:08 PM |
| 4 | Would you lie to get laid?Am I right in saying this is a reference to Better Call Saul? Where Jimmy/Saul tells some barslut that he's Kevin Costner and she sleeps with him? Anyway, to answer your question, it depends on the lie. I'm a virgin, and if I'm ever asked about my previous experience I'm absolutely going to lie about that. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/05/15 07:51 AM |
| 8 | Women of PPD: Why should men *not* hate women?It's definitely true that if you open up from a position of weakness or hopelessness, a woman will view you as weak and that hurts attraction. It always has to be framed as "this is my problem" and then "this is how I plan to deal with it", perhaps asking her opinion on the plan if she's a practical and logical thinker. It should never be implied that you can't hold your shit together by yourself, or are otherwise dependent on someone else in any way. This isn't really true for the reverse. Men … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/05/15 07:38 AM |
| 1 | Question for RedPill I am absolutely befuddled by 'RedPill'... Can I have some questions filled?It's a transaction. There are a series of different criteria you must meet before any given woman will consent to have sex with you. There is also supply and demand. If your value is very high, then you are among a group of people in short supply, for which there is high demand. You are thus better able to dictate the terms of the transaction, and can use your value to meet the criteria for consent with a large number of women. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/05/15 07:06 PM |
| 1 | Partnered people - what's is life like in your household?Four pull-ups is kid's stuff. Unless you're on steroids, if you start regularly working out and lifting you'll just end up looking toned with better posture. There's this bizarre myth floating around people who don't work out, that lifting weights turns anyone into the Incredible Hulk after a few sessions. Even for a guy, getting really big is extremely hard work. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/05/15 06:56 PM |
| 1 | Partnered people - what's is life like in your household?When I've been home from college this year (20,M) I haven't had a job so I do the housework, except laundry and cooking. I also dont clean toilets. Takes an hour or so tops to get everything done, like a full house tidy-up (except bedrooms). It's not necessary to hoover more than ~twice a week and that's with a dog (who I also take for a walk). It's honestly an absolute doddle and if I had to cook, do laundry and clean toilets on top of it it wouldn't be a big deal. It actually feels good to jus… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/05/15 06:50 PM |
| 3 | Why isn't prostitution legal ?That was in reference to the legal consequences of consumption. Compound it with the logistics issues and I only take drugs on rare occasions. If I could buy some weed or even MDMA with my alcohol down at the nearby convenience store I'd probably budget for it on a monthly basis at least. If I had the money to regularly employ an attractive, reliably STI-clean woman without all the pretenses that come with it being an illegal industry, I'd almost certainly do it. It'd be a no-brainer. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/05/15 06:28 PM |
| 4 | Why is Feminism considered to be about equality?Well firstly, dehumanisation is implicit in a capitalist economic system. Currency (which has a totally arbitrary value) is fetishised to the point of putting prices on human lives and reducing people to mere utilities. Look no further than the US healthcare system for one prominent example. The stigma surrounding the welfare state for another. It's not just women that are routinely dehumanised, it's everyone without the wealth to be considered sufficiently 'valuable' to society. This is all wit… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/05/15 05:30 PM |
| 1 | Why isn't prostitution legal ?I said the legalisation has nothing to do with consuming, not cost, consuming. You're wrong there. It's more hassle for me to score drugs. The illegality of it also discourages me a little, if I have some stored in my room at college all it takes is one of my roommates to call security and they can search my room and I'd probably be evicted from the apartment at the very least. There's an anxiety there that wouldn't exist if it was legal. If I could just walk into a store and buy what I wanted, … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/05/15 05:17 PM |
| 7 | Why is Feminism considered to be about equality?There is an argument than most men are also not treated like humans. I think there's a general problem in society of dehumanisation across the board, and I have a problem accepting the idea that it's mostly stacked against women specifically in this day and age. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/05/15 05:09 PM |
| 1 | What can a man offers me besides his looks and peen peen?To say that you wouldn't care if your family died tomorrow indicates some kind of mental disorder. This whole thread is pointless because if you feel nothing for your family you'll never feel anything for some guy. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/05/15 07:45 PM |
| 7 | What do men ACTUALLY want in a woman?There's a uniquely feminine pleasantness and warmth that I feel around some women, it's what I would describe as femininty if I really had to pin it down to one key thing. Submissiveness doesn't come into, but it's definitely a total lack of aggression to the point of being intoxicatingly disarming and relaxing to be around. If she can have that effect on me and is also physically attractive, pretty much nothing else matters as long as she's intelligent enough for me to relate to her. That's for… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/05/15 06:48 PM |
| 1 | What can a man offers me besides his looks and peen peen?I don't even feel emotionally connected to my parents and brother who have always been nice to me, if they die tomorrow, I wouldn't care that much. Sounds like you're a sociopath or whatever the proper term is for having no emotional connection or empathy for people. This is absolutely not normal. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/05/15 06:25 PM |
| 1 | Would you call this manipulation?It's taking the line of thinking that 'game' is manipulation to its logical extension: that any enhancement of your SMV is fundamentally manipulative. Every guy runs game to pick up girls at bars, to get that second date, to get girls into bed...whatever their goal, they're consciously trying to minimise their unattractive traits and maximise their attractive ones, just like women wear makeup. It's either all manipulative, or none of it is. I think it's the latter. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/05/15 08:00 AM |
| 1 | Would you call this manipulation?But that's not the context of the discussion. You're right but it's not relevant. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/05/15 07:57 AM |
| 3 | Do women "lack empathy" ?I totally agree. I do think that true empathy is extremely difficult to achieve anyway, and that it's even more rare to find examples that bridge the genders (man feeling empathy for woman and vice versa). | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/05/15 07:48 AM |
| 3 | Alpha femalesSo alpha is only applicable to the sexual marketplace Yes. In nature, the alpha controls the sexual marketplace in that he has the pick of the females. It has been taken on by society to just mean "successful person" but guys like Zuckerberg are incredibly successful...without their specialised technical ability they'd be beta as fuck, it doesn't really seem right to call them alpha. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/05/15 06:55 PM |
| 4 | Alpha femalesWomen are not competitive agents in the sexual marketplace, they are receptive and screen their mates. It's totally pointless to denote alphas and betas for women, and if you do, it's only because they are imitating male behaviour. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/05/15 06:03 PM |
| 4 | Alpha females"Alpha" in the context we're discussing denotes inherently masculine traits. It is hierarchical and indicates superiority and domination. Femininity is denoted by anything that is not masculine. It's binary i.e. the feminine alpha is a contradiction of terms. This is both a criticism of the whole paradigm (one found in second-wave feminist theory), and true in the context of this discussion. It's why I think the whole alpha/beta thing is a bit silly. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/05/15 05:33 PM |
| 2 | Do you believe women should be lead by men?"Should" doesn't really come into it. I do think women generally find leaders more attractive and prefer the security of such a man compared to one who is emotionally weak/submissive. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/05/15 05:26 PM |
| 1 | Will men and women change their life strategy when ovarian transplants are common and women remain fertile until old age/until death?I personally think the genders will be mostly segregated in the following century Hmmm....In a world where you don't need a partner to start a family, you don't have to die alone and unloved if you're unattractive or can't otherwise find a suitable partner. Everyone's standards for commitment will shoot up as the effect of artificial wombs compounds with women increasingly becoming the higher earner in the household and suddenly they stand to lose out big time in a divorce. Women and men will ha… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/05/15 05:17 PM |
| 1 | Are feminists (women) *really* trying to shame men into lowering their standards or do they just have an unrealistic view of what men’s standards actually are?I really don't think you need firsthand experience to know how to deal with shit, or at least understand a situation and behave rationally within it. You're talking as if everyone is an emotionally-retarded trainwreck when they're young. It's just not true. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/05/15 02:31 PM |
| -1 | Is this "pushing through last minute resistance", or is this rape?It does read like rape to me but I highly doubt you'd be able to prove anything beyond a reasonable doubt. I understand why a woman wouldn't overtly resist, but it's just a sad fact that if you don't even say 'no' then it makes prosecution so much more difficult. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/05/15 11:06 PM |
| 1 | What's the deal with "demise of guys"?I've seen a lot of guys shut themselves off entirely (citing "social anxiety" or "shyness" or fuck, even some form of autism) without ever having been rejected or shunned from society I'm somewhat of a 'hermit' compared to most people I know and here's my perspective on this: I've never thought I was ever shunned from society per se, but rather that I was just never cut out for it. I don't bring anything to the table in social environments so there's little point in seeking them out. An example … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/05/15 08:20 PM |
| 1 | Is food a greater pleasure to women than sex is?That depends on the size of the woman relative to the man and whether or not she's pregnant. Well yeh, I'm talking averages here. Isn't the amount of calories needed during pregnancy vastly exaggerated? I don't think you need more than a few hundred extra calories. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/05/15 03:45 PM |
| 7 | Is food a greater pleasure to women than sex is?They also don't need to eat as much as men. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/05/15 03:24 PM |
| 1 | Does brutal honesty not work for people in their relationships ?TRP is manipulative as all hell, I am always amazed when one tries to defend it as "just getting what you want". The option always stands to just say no and leave. These things surely wouldn't work on a strong-willed person but I don't think it's anyone's responsibility to coddle weak-willed people. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/05/15 10:29 AM |
| 1 | Does brutal honesty not work for people in their relationships ?That's where you ask yourself whether what you're getting in return for compromise is even worth the compromise. Just sex? You can get that anywhere. Emotional gratification and support? Don't you have any trusted close friends or parents who can provide that? In my opinion compromise is only worth it when you're getting both sexual and emotional gratification in abundance (whatever abundance means for you). | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/05/15 10:21 AM |
| 4 | What's the deal with "demise of guys"?This is the answer. At the end of the day, for most middle class guys like me the worst case scenario is I lose my job, run out of money and go back to live with my parents. I'll still have my videogames and porn (easy gratification). This is literally my rock bottom situation, and I'm still pretty comfortable. This was not the case even 20 years ago, when I was born. People in Western civilisation are more comfortable then they've ever been in the history of mankind and there's never been less … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/05/15 10:10 AM |
| 0 | How are women naturally solipsistic ?I think both men and women are highly solipsistic (difference between genders here being negligible), and people with a high capability for empathy are relatively rare. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/05/15 06:45 PM |
| 3 | CMV: Domestic abuse (such as beating your wife) is an alpha trait.You care so much about what she says or does that you'd resort to violence? Yeh, that's not an alpha mindset. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/05/15 06:40 PM |
| 1 | What happened to women? What is causing (or caused) the downfall of respectful and classy ladies? What will happen in the future?it insinuates that men are winners in a Patriarchy because they are naturally sociopathic and self-centered. When there is a legal obligation to shareholders to increase profits, people are necessarily relegated to objects and currency is fetishised in their place. A small percentage of men (and an even smaller percentage of women, but they'll catch up sooner or later) are "winners" in society, and they must be able to do the above. These are all just regurgitations of theories I've read and my … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/05/15 07:01 AM |
| 7 | TRP suffers from "hot girl goggles" which completely explains their philosophy. Let me explain...Did you ever go to college? I fucking swear to God at least 60% of the girls I know (I'm at a good uni, so they're intelligent academic girls) are engaging in semi-regular casual sex. It's ubiquitous, it's easy, there are no consequences, therefore it is inevitable. Think of it like Murphy's Law. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/05/15 01:05 AM |
| 6 | TRP suffers from "hot girl goggles" which completely explains their philosophy. Let me explain...This is absolutely not true. I guess you can choose not to believe me, but I'm a good-looking guy with a good physique who dresses well and I get ZERO overt female attention. I mean, I can see when girls take a look, but I'm not taking them home because the more masculine guy is already in there, and I'm passive and would rather just hang out and have a laugh with friends. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/05/15 12:55 AM |
| 3 | You have lived your entire life as an alpha male, spinning more plates than a circus clown and avoiding being tied down by relationships. The problem is, you're old with no family/kids to support you and you're unable to clean your own shit. What do you do now?If I have any choice in the matter, yes I will. Go through chemo, probably have to wear a fucking cholostomy bag for the rest of my life. If I can't enjoy my retirement then whats the point? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/05/15 12:42 AM |
| 2 | You have lived your entire life as an alpha male, spinning more plates than a circus clown and avoiding being tied down by relationships. The problem is, you're old with no family/kids to support you and you're unable to clean your own shit. What do you do now?Yeh, if I get prostate cancer at 70, I know that's probably it for me and my dignity even if I survive the actual cancer. If something happens to me in my 30s that I can recover from, then my body has much greater constitution to recover at least to a point where I can look after myself. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/05/15 08:49 PM |
| 1 | Which is worse, TRP or this?Dude, the vast majority of people are exploited by their bosses. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/05/15 11:44 AM |
| 13 | You have lived your entire life as an alpha male, spinning more plates than a circus clown and avoiding being tied down by relationships. The problem is, you're old with no family/kids to support you and you're unable to clean your own shit. What do you do now?Blue Pill or RedPill, happily married or forever alone, when I can no longer wipe my own ass (except if I'm temporarily incapacitated and will later be able to take care of myself) I am committing suicide. I will not force my children or my romantic partner to clean up my messes, nor will I allow myself to continue to exist in such a state of misery and humiliation. A human being isn't supposed to live like that. I hope to God that assisted suicide is legalised in my country in my lifetime. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/05/15 09:54 AM |
| 1 | TRP and Feminism both agree that women are human beings, but whereas Feminism concentrates on the positive of that, TRP concentrates on the negatives.TRP often expresses in words what conservatism (i.e. conservation of traditional ways of life, structure of society etc) has always subconsciously believed but never had the words for, or has always been dressed up in religious dogma without being explained in terms of human nature. Conservatism will always fail in large metropolitan areas because there is no accountability for breaking social norms. Female sexuality is easily-policed in small communities as women respond viscerally to social ac… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/05/15 09:44 AM |
| 3 | BP men: If you found out that your SO did things in bed for other men that she refuses to do with you, how would you react/ feel?This is one of the most empathetic and understanding posts I've seen on this sub for a long long time. Finally a BP woman who understands broadly how men view sex vs. commitment (time/resources), and knows how to appeal to that view in debate. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/05/15 09:33 AM |
| 2 | What happened to women? What is causing (or caused) the downfall of respectful and classy ladies? What will happen in the future?This is true. Marxist Feminism was never going to work because it was fighting against capitalism as well as patriarchal power structures. Second-wave Feminism succeeded only in assimilating women into capitalist society, and strengthening its power by giving the capitalist class a wider pool of exploitable labour. Many feminists like Germaine Greer dismay at this, but they helped create the conditions for it. The result is that women have by necessity (to succeed in the workplace) become more s… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/05/15 01:01 PM |
| 2 | Discussion: Is hating women the rational thing ?But to vilify anyone capable of breaking your heart so as to keep them at a distance and never be hurt again is just sad. And cowardly. Can one not make a rational risk/reward assessment? I'm honestly highly sceptical of the benefits of letting yourself be emotionally vulnerable for the sake of romantic love. I enjoy life and have never experienced what I think of as romantic love. I could go the rest of my life in this state, without ever risking soul-crushing emotional heartbreak. I'd be sacri… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/05/15 12:48 PM |
| 3 | Why do the red pill imagine they understand female sexual response?the women in my close circle of friends are not attracted to selfish douchebags. They've probably slept with some though, and that's all most TRPers (especially younger ones) give a shit about. Nothing inherently wrong with that, it just is what it is. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/05/15 12:29 PM |
| 7 | When banks give you loans, they check credit ratings. When people buy cars, they check its condition and mileage. When employers hire people, they check the applicant's criminal record history and his resume. The past matters, especially when dating; TRP is incontrovertibly correct on this issue...Banks aren't reviewing a persons's history because they're insecure and scared. Ummm yes they are. They're insecure and scared about losing investments. Otherwise they'd hand out loans to any old mug. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/05/15 12:27 PM |
| 1 | Question for both pills - Why so little sympathy for bottom-of-the-barrel men?Individual virgins wont get shamed unless they reveal themselves, true. But the reason they feel shame is because the idea of being a virgin male is shamed by society. People deride virgin males in the abstract all the time, and those virgins hear it and internalise it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/05/15 06:34 PM |
| 2 | What are your thoughts on "Patriarchy?"Feminism can be compared to a cult in many ways. They are the enlightened ones and their opponents are automatically misogynist simply for the fact that they're not feminist. Then there's the constructed bogeyman that is the cause of all the evil in the world, and to which one can attribute all their own limitations and struggles. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/05/15 05:36 PM |
| 2 | Question for Blue Pill. What are your opinions on women who want men with low partner counts?Is it possible for 'more experience' to become 'jaded veteran' at some point? I think that's really the basis behind the distaste for high partner counts. There was a thread recently asking women about what they think about men with high partner counts and the overall response was negative. I personally think there's something off about people with like 50+ partner counts in their 20s, men and women alike...I think it probably just indicates a lifestyle that's not compatible with me. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/05/15 09:44 PM |
| 4 | Question for Blue Pill. What are your opinions on women who want men with low partner counts?So a person's sexual history has zero impact on their approach to sex and relationships? Everyone's a blank slate with each passing partner? Interesting. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/05/15 07:59 PM |
| 1 | Does TRP (or just men in general) over-exaggerate the prevalence of female promiscuity?Can you say with any real confidence that these women are being totally honest? I've always noticed slut-shaming to be far more prevalent among women than men. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/04/15 03:48 PM |
| 3 | CMV: There is absolutely no such thing as misogyny except in cases that very isolated, few, and far between.Middle Eastern societies are said to be fraught with misogyny by almost everyone, but that has hardly destroyed them. Not misogyny specifically, but the misogyny of many Middle Eastern societies is one feature of a wider ultra-conservative backwards culture which is destroying many of them. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/04/15 03:42 PM |
| 1 | The biggest misconception about TRP that I see on here is that it's aggressive rather than defensive.In this case, even if you switch the genders, nobody is coercing the the other to stay in the relationship. There is a constant reminder where the door is, a constant re-evaluation of your options, not a subtle closing down of options. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/04/15 08:06 AM |
| 3 | Vicious double standard in in expected conformity to gender stereotypesI want names. Name those feminists. Look up 'Personal is Political'. It's a concept invented by second-wave feminists. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/04/15 10:19 AM |
| 9 | Vicious double standard in in expected conformity to gender stereotypesThere are lot of feminists who believe in the concept of 'Personal is Political' and extrapolate it to mean that anyone who doesn't exhibit their 'strong independent woman' in every waking moment is morally deficient. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/04/15 08:26 AM |
| 1 | Do women love their children more than they will ever love any man?It's only in the last hundred years or so since WWI that the idea of the 'Self' really took hold on society, that every individual should self-actualise and realise their own identities and prioritise as such with much less regard for our natural role. Wrapping up our identities in anything except offspring is a very recent phenomenon. Lifelong monogamy is also not really in our nature. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/04/15 10:35 PM |
| 1 | Do women love their children more than they will ever love any man?I think it's unusual because it's just so contradictory to our biological prime directive. Almost everything about our sexuality and our identity with regards to gender revolves around reproduction at its core. Monogamy and lifelong undying love for an unrelated person is anomalous, especially if it's ever brought into competition with our reproductive instincts. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/04/15 10:17 PM |
| 1 | BP: Does TBP really believe that TRP men only sleep with insecure, damaged women?Ultimately though RP isn't about taking a principled stand on things, it's about acting on pure self-interest. Of course encouraging 'plate-spinning' is hypocritical and most TRPers would admit so, but it doesn't really matter because they're not trying to change society to make it better, but rather to work with the environment before them and make the best of it from their own perspective. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/04/15 04:14 PM |
| 4 | Do women love their children more than they will ever love any man?I think this would be true of any dedicated parent. They are your legacy, you are totally responsible for them. However there are a lot of shitty parents who would throw their kids under a bus (figuratively speaking) to run off with a romantic partner, or turn a blind eye to child abuse in the home for the sake of a romantic relationship. Deadbeats and enablers are everywhere. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/04/15 03:38 PM |
| 2 | Many people rail on TRP for always being predisposed to give the man the benefit of the doubt for bad things he does in a relationship, yet isn't the reverse rampant everywhere else? Legally in the Duluth model, and other justice system's bias towards women, the "women are wonderful" effect, etc?The only problem is that costs of living are such that it makes it very difficult to live on just one income. Although if one partner's income is below a certain threshold it actually becomes more financially viable to just have one income and save on the childcare, at least that's the case in my country. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/04/15 03:20 PM |
| 3 | BP: Does TBP really believe that TRP men only sleep with insecure, damaged women?Really? I'd be interested in the actual statistics of the proportion of men who get married. Marriages rates are rapidly declining these days. Besides, you might be surprised at how marriages dwindle to having sex once every few months at best, especially after children. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/04/15 03:17 PM |
| 6 | Many people rail on TRP for always being predisposed to give the man the benefit of the doubt for bad things he does in a relationship, yet isn't the reverse rampant everywhere else? Legally in the Duluth model, and other justice system's bias towards women, the "women are wonderful" effect, etc?Sure. But you are delusional if you think it's the "easiest job in the world". Obviously it's not the easiest, and I'm going to give an anecdote here but ultimately that's the only evidence anyone can really give. My mother spent about 10 years out of work raising me and my two siblings, then went back to school and came out of it with a job at what I suppose is the equivalent of a community college in the US. She continuously says that she misses being at home raising children, that it was easy… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/04/15 03:02 PM |
| 1 | Many people rail on TRP for always being predisposed to give the man the benefit of the doubt for bad things he does in a relationship, yet isn't the reverse rampant everywhere else? Legally in the Duluth model, and other justice system's bias towards women, the "women are wonderful" effect, etc?its for the same reason blacks do, and its a legitmate reason. Could you expand? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/04/15 02:51 PM |
| 2 | BP: Does TBP really believe that TRP men only sleep with insecure, damaged women?most women who sleep around like that seem to have issues. Would you agree with the RP notion that women with high partner counts are justifiably less desirable? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/04/15 02:44 PM |
| 3 | BP: Does TBP really believe that TRP men only sleep with insecure, damaged women?But men who lack respect for women are easy to spot. Their actions/attitudes always give them away. Men who lack respect for people in general (and thus also women) are often extremely successful in their careers and desirable to the opposite sex. It pays to be sociopathic in modern times. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/04/15 02:42 PM |
| 4 | BP: Does TBP really believe that TRP men only sleep with insecure, damaged women?I think that was hyperbole to make a point. Plenty of men are having mediocre one night stands a few times a year, and that is the extent of their sex life. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/04/15 02:38 PM |
| 1 | The "niceguy" test from /r/NiceGuys.1) Probably not, but it's best to observe certain standards of beauty for both genders. 2) Again, do what you like, but don't complain at society for not liking you and your decisions. 3) I've been specifically told this by a few women. They were obviously being diplomatic and meant that I was not assertive and confident enough. 4) Of course. 5) Of course not. I deeply dislike being labelled a "nice guy" by people I know. 6) Yes I am. 7) I don't expect anything from anyone. 8) No. But at the end… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/04/15 09:31 PM |
| 3 | Good or Bad: Women get to decide who they have sex with.In my case I don't hold double standards. I think there's something broken about people who have fucked dozens of different people, from either gender. The more promiscuous people I know have always been more cynical with regards to love and relationships. They've just lost something I can't put my finger on. I suppose it is insecurity, but it would be far more difficult for me to feel secure in a long-term relationship with a woman with a high partner count compared to low partner. "They've pum… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/04/15 07:58 AM |
| 3 | Feminists aren't hijacking entertainment industries and education- progressivism is just trendy, economically feasible, or the preferred ideology of smart and successful people.You must be trolling, or if you dont see how flawed that system is then you're an idiot. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/04/15 07:48 AM |
| 4 | What's the Other Side Think of TRP Posts Like This?You presuppose that these "stages" are absolutely necessary and valuable. I think it really depends on how much you've been burned on your investments (emotional and financial) in women throughout your life. I'm a young guy, what TRP views I do agree with didn't blow my mind...but imagine you're in your late 30s after 10 years of a shitty marriage, or you've been fucked hard in a divorce, whatever. It must be fucking hard to take. It's the monumental sunk cost that hurts people. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/04/15 07:40 AM |
| 2 | What's the Other Side Think of TRP Posts Like This?When a SJW says "kill all cis men!" are you understanding and just treat it like an anger phase? I'd consider her an idiot, and not dignify her or her views with a response. Let her go about life as an idiot, her silly beliefs don't hurt anyone. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/04/15 07:35 AM |
| 1 | Is this rape?Nobody is forcing her to do anything. She makes the choice to have sex. She could just leave in response to such an ultimatum. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/04/15 07:31 AM |
| 2 | Is this rape?How many people have ended a relationship or marriage due to lack of sexual fulfilment? Had they openly communicated their lack of fulfilment and stated their intentions to leave if their needs are not met...according to you that's coercion and if they subsequently have sex it is rape? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/04/15 07:27 AM |
| 1 | SERIOUS REPLIES ONLY Things you've learned from PurplePillDebateIts possible to go through life not caring who you hurt so long as it gets your dick wet. I imagine (I don't do what you describe here) it's made easier with the realisation that society really doesn't give a fuck about you as long as it extracts time, money and resources from you. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/04/15 11:42 AM |
| 2 | SERIOUS REPLIES ONLY Things you've learned from PurplePillDebateI smell a troll... | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/04/15 11:38 AM |
| 1 | We are all living during an awkward time period in human history where the gender divide is virtually irreconcilibleIt exists because, since forever, women are seen as property of men. This is only an outgrowth of its true purpose. Civilisations are built on the exploitation of beta males. It has always been in the best interests of the ruling classes to keep their well-oiled machine functioning, the beta male needs to be sexually and emotionally satisfied otherwise he gets frustrated, his testosterone levels rise, and he gathers with other dissatisfied beta males and violently overthrows the ruling class. Th… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/04/15 09:28 AM |
| 2 | CMV: It's feminist and not TRPers that hate women.Do you think women are lying about social pressure? That's the thing, I've never once heard women of my generation in the society I live in complaining about social pressure with regards to marriage/children. I find that the social pressure is increasingly to give up marriage/children to focus on education/career. Couple that with financial pressures and it's just not really what the vast majority of young women even seriously contemplate. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/04/15 07:32 PM |
| 2 | CMV: The way that blue pillers here argue is meant to convince themselves, not to convince red pillers.Are you thinking of PUA/game or just straight up lying to someone to get in their pants? The latter I'd agree is definitely unethical but having 'game' isn't about deceiving someone about the facts of your life , it's about knowing how to direct an interaction towards a desired outcome. Asking the right questions, joking, keeping things light, weaving in details about your life that demonstrate high value, displaying confidence. I dont think there's anything deceptive and manipulative about meth… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/04/15 07:19 PM |
| 3 | CMV: It's feminist and not TRPers that hate women.I grew up in a village, I've never lived in a major metropolitan area. If this pressure exists somewhere, I've certainly never seen it. Very few of the women I know are in LTRs, I'd be amazed if any of them get married before 25 and they certainly wont be having children that were planned. I've spent the last few years studying in a female-dominated field, I have candid conversations with different women every day, none of them have ever talked about pressure to get married or have children. On … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/04/15 03:01 PM |
| 1 | CMV: The way that blue pillers here argue is meant to convince themselves, not to convince red pillers.undermining a woman's ability to make an informed choice in favor of tricking her into making the choice you want. It's a con game, and it is inherently unethical. Interesting. How do you feel about women who wear makeup, push-up bras and high heels in an attempt to appear more attractive to the opposite sex? What about women who lie about their partner count? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/04/15 01:39 PM |
| 1 | I believe that marriage will become obsolete in the future, but things will be better this wayAnd also get monthly love injections that pump up the brain chemicals such as oxytocin so that we never fall out of love with each other You sound like someone who thinks the society depicted in 'Brave New World' was a positive and commendable one. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/04/15 01:12 PM |
| 3 | CMV: It's feminist and not TRPers that hate women.Marriage is dying. I'll be amazed if it survives my lifetime as a mainstream institution. Unless you're brought up in a very religious background (I saw on reddit recently that my country is the least religious in the world), there's zero pressure to get married and have kids these days. Things might be different in America, as you say racism is alive and well in a country that's still pretty much racially segregated. There are a lot of subtle but powerful cultural differences between my country… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/04/15 01:07 PM |
| 2 | CMV: It's feminist and not TRPers that hate women.By all means, let's just assume everyone else has the same unencumbered luxury. In Western developed societies, yes, this is absolutely the case. You can't legally force people to marry or have children. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/04/15 11:44 AM |
| 5 | CMV: In conservative societies, low divorce rates are only due to it being harder to divorce the society oppressing womenwhy the fuck would you ever want people to continue being miserable, hating life, and hating each other in some craptastic marriage? You wouldn't. Any marriage has the potential to turn out this way, so why bother getting married in the first place? Marriage rates are plummetting, it seems that people are waking up to the fact that lifelong commitment to one person just isn't in our nature and never was. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/04/15 10:51 AM |
| -1 | The Red Pill doesn't advertise. What's your screening strategy?Not condoning it, it's just a fact of life. The just world fallacy has been brought up elsewhere. A man's degree of misyognist beliefs does not necessarily make him less successful with women - in many cases it has the opposite effect. Just think of how many women have the anecdote of that asshole ex who took them by surprise with their douchebaggery. He might not have subscribed to the RP sub, but he shared many beliefs and the woman was none the wiser because he wasn't an idiot. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/04/15 01:07 PM |
| 1 | CMV: My SO and I are equal.You sound like a statistical outlier. You go hunting, you slaughter animals to eat. The vast majority of girls I know would squeel like a piglet at the sight of a slaughtered animal, nevermind do it themselves. Pickup/game is about playing the numbers. You walk into a bar/club and you maximise your chances of getting laid. I don't see that it has much value beyond that. In my mind there's no catch-all strategy for LTRs. Each relationship will be unique to the individual. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/04/15 12:52 PM |
| 4 | The Red Pill doesn't advertise. What's your screening strategy?if he's not belittling you, he's not acting Red Pill. If he's belitting you, then he's socially inept. I dont think being socially inept is encouraged in TRP. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/04/15 12:34 PM |
| 4 | CMV: Men who wish to, but fail to get laid, or hook-up in their high school/college years are mentally damaged.It's not so much masculinity as humanity. Almost every adult, male or female, has some level of romantic experience and frame of reference which I simply do not have. I literally feel less human, less able to relate and connect with others, like someone who was simply not cut out for mainstream society. I know that others would view me as less of a man, so I never tell anybody any of this, but internally I don't really think about myself along lines of masculine/feminine. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/04/15 10:38 PM |
| 1 | If gender is a social construct, does that mean gay people are created and not born that way?So you think sociological research is scientific? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/04/15 03:47 PM |
| 1 | Blue pillers, can you write a few paragraphs giving a brief overlay of red pill theory such that I would believe that a red piller wrote it?I think there's major problems with the idea that there's 'versions' of self at all. We only present versions of ourselves at certain times. Whether this is only presentational or not doesn't really matter to the people in your life; other humans only ever observe certain versions of you. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/04/15 03:24 PM |
| 1 | Both pills: how much influence do you believe the internet can have on someone's views?Sometimes I look at the UK, and I blame the kids who go fight off in foreign wars a little less (ISIS is still a horrible idea though) . I mean c'mon, they're so fucking castrated over there.... tea sipping effete bastards. And it's clearly not a money issue either, seeing as they're somewhat into socialism. What could the UK along with the rest of Europe be doing so wrong? Have you ever been to the UK before? Or any European country for that matter? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/04/15 03:13 PM |
| 0 | BPers, do you think TRP should be banned from reddit?Suzie told me that she is a feminist, therefore, I think that she believes what feminists believe. In my opinion, 'feminist' is a generalisation. A wide spectrum of people will identify as feminist, some of whom I agree with but many I disagree with entirely. Her identifying as such wouldn't tell me very much about her beliefs or who she is as a person, beyond my own prejudices. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/04/15 03:08 PM |
| 1 | BPers, what is your sexual strategy?Regardless, a decent workout takes an hour tops. If it takes longer than that you're being inefficient with your time, or you're training for something competitive. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/04/15 02:50 PM |
| 2 | If gender is a social construct, does that mean gay people are created and not born that way?This is really the only answer needed. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/04/15 02:46 PM |
| 2 | If gender is a social construct, does that mean gay people are created and not born that way?we use in research. What significance does this have? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/04/15 02:44 PM |
| 2 | If gender is a social construct, does that mean gay people are created and not born that way?Those are excellent examples, presentation is a HUGE part of the social concept of gender and those are all major aspects of presentation. But it still doesn't prove that biology plays no part in the forming of culture/society and thus gender roles. It's just an example (however major) where it doesn't. You still haven't addressed their point. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/04/15 02:42 PM |
| 3 | CMV: Men who wish to, but fail to get laid, or hook-up in their high school/college years are mentally damaged.They did not voluntarily exclude themselves for sexual opportunities on any basis of morality or religion, as in in theory if a girl walked up to them and asked for sex, they would have done it. I'm in college right now and this is me. I don't really have any kind of discernible sexual identity except for my orientation. I feel like with each passing day even that is shrinking, to the point where one day I'll just end up asexual. I'm a decent looking guy who works out, so I know it's 100% mental… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/04/15 12:31 PM |
| 1 | I was a "competitive" powerlifter (1 comp). I never got all these miraculous benefits from lifting that are promised.Did you actually journal or do anything to have a frame of reference of your mood from one stage to another? It's easy to notice your state of mind day to day and it fluctuates, but I can't remember how I was generally feeling, say, a year ago. I know for absolute certain that when I go through lazy periods, my baseline mood is lower than when I'm on a good exercise routine and know I'm improving myself. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/04/15 11:33 AM |
| 1 | Has being TRP/TBP benefitted your life?Being not RP has allowed me to create great friendships with awesome women I don't see this being impossible with TRP if you're able to compartmentalise your behaviours. I'm in a female-dominated course at University so if I wasn't able to do this I wouldn't really have any friends. I also have a few female flatmates who are off-limits for obvious reasons. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/04/15 01:16 PM |
| 1 | What makes a man blue pill?Where does it say that it is immoral to exploit human psychology? I'd agree that it's immoral if you use them to hurt others, but if you don't, what is inherently immoral about the practice? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/04/15 01:05 PM |
| 0 | Why is being shallow considered a negative thing?I don't see a double standard there, just wildly idiotic optimism. If a man or woman has those standards, well each to their own, just don't let me hear you complaining about your love life. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/04/15 09:04 PM |
| 1 | An older woman's dating problem [Article]She didn't just break up with him, she's clearly had a meltdown and gone on a rant about him on the internet. If she'd have just amicably parted ways, I'd say fair enough. But she's just shaming him for being open and honest which is what women say they want in a committed relationship. Apparently they do not. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/04/15 09:50 PM |
| 2 | CMV: It's all about choice.In my opinion it's largely the latter along with some lasting vestiges of sexist patriarchal power. Think of 'Jobs for the Boys', CEOs meeting at men-only golf courses, and other stereotypes. That will inevitably exist to some degree as long as prejudice exists but capitalism naturally trends towards a meritocracy with regards to race and gender. A smart businessperson doesn't give much of a shit about your genitalia or skin colour, he/she cares primarily about how much money you can make for th… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/04/15 09:10 PM |
| 2 | CMV: It's all about choice.I think TRP also disdains the feminisation of men that has come as a kind of double-edged sword (as they might see it) with women's liberation. That's what TRP aims to address. It doesn't aim to change society, but rather to masculinise the individual male in reaction to a more chaotic society, a society which requires increasingly sociopathic tendencies in order to successfully navigate but actually teaches old-fashioned reticence to its male population from a young age. This is really the male… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/04/15 08:33 PM |
| 1 | Why Do All Guys Think They're The 'Nice Guys'?I suppose nice isn't a great descriptor, as an English student it has essentially been erased from my vocabulary. My sense of a nice guy is someone who is pleasant to be around or has a pleasant demeanour that feels genuine. It's interesting because this debate reminds of something I was reading a few weeks ago, about the extent to how identity is tied to morality and the extent to which that is subject to action or belief. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/03/15 06:05 PM |
| 3 | Why Do All Guys Think They're The 'Nice Guys'?So if you have an opportunity to help someone/thing but choose not to, you're harming them? Do you take every such opportunity? Every single one? Would one violation of Do No Harm remove the 'nice guy' identity? If not, how many? Following your line of logic leads into murky ethical water and I think it's best not to think of morality in absolutes, since it is after all a man-made thing. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/03/15 03:42 PM |
| 2 | Why Do All Guys Think They're The 'Nice Guys'?Society is pretty fucked then because 99% of people would walk right on by a stray animal. Then again, maybe some of the 99% have more important shit to do, like work to feed their families? Also, why specify "puppy"? Are adult dogs less important? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/03/15 03:38 PM |
| 2 | Imagine you are the Jehovah's Witness of your philosophy, how do you keep me from closing the door?In a patriarchal society, men will generally try to behave in the way that gets them laid most easily. If women want men to be nice, act accordingly. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/03/15 03:11 PM |
| 1 | My theory on creep shaming, Challenge My ViewThat's fair. We all internally judge others, I just refrain from commenting on it and try to better understand my prejudices, I don't think it's healthy to reinforce stereotypical images in general. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/03/15 03:43 PM |
| 3 | My theory on creep shaming, Challenge My ViewSo you agree that creep shaming is not acceptable behaviour, despite your justifications of it? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/03/15 02:51 PM |
| 2 | Do Traditional Masculine Gender Roles Hurt Men and Make Them Feel Inadequate?you are a Nice guy(TM). Which means you already are a misogynist, you just don't know it. Enjoy more bullying and shaming. Suffer in silence. Even if you do and take the escapist route , you're still be shamed because le neckbeard and being blamed for toxic nerd culture. I really do have to sit back and admire how the feminist-sociopath leading thinkers have engineered this doozy. It reminds me of Catholic guilt. You are born a sinner and must pray for forgiveness even if you don't know what you… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/03/15 02:42 PM |
| 3 | Do Traditional Masculine Gender Roles Hurt Men and Make Them Feel Inadequate?No, I think sexuality is fluid and changes depending on circumstances. Could you expand, with reference to modern western culture? Surely if sexuality is "fluid" and subject to circumstance then LGBT people who suffer from persecution and homophobia would be able to choose to be straight. It sounds to me like you believe that if a person places themselves in the correct circumstances they can be sexually fulfilled with a person of any gender. I really don't think this is the case. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/03/15 02:30 PM |
| 2 | Do Traditional Masculine Gender Roles Hurt Men and Make Them Feel Inadequate?If that definition of privilige is incorrect, then the whole concept of male privilege pretty much falls apart at the seams. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/03/15 02:20 PM |
| 1 | Is there a difference between who a female thinks she is attracted to, and who she really is attracted to?When it comes to relationships I think both genders are attracted to the familiar and relatable, for better or for worse. Some men and women are familiar with and can relate to shitty people because they're either a shitty person themselves or have grown up around them. When it comes to casual sex though personality really doesn't matter that much. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/03/15 02:16 PM |
| 1 | If a woman goes topless in public, does this objectify her even more, or does it de-sexualize her?you have no control over how you think Nobody does. "You" or "I" (whatever those terms mean) are not the author of our thoughts. We can only 'consciously' control our actions. Our thoughts are entirely subject to our biology and environment. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/03/15 02:05 PM |
| 3 | If alpha/fucks beta bucks is present in society, will men not continue to be adopt more RP values?if trp was common sense, it would be a common popular subreddit. This is just not true. /r/Soccer has just over 300,000 subscriptions. There are probably over a billion soccer fans on the planet. Reddit isn't a cross-section of society, not even close. I agree that TRP as an internet community is outlier, but the majority of its core ideas can be found in most personal development models across the globe. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/03/15 04:07 PM |
| 3 | Do women want chaste men?I'm seeing a refreshing trend in this thread and it's towards low partner counts. Does this suggest that promiscuity is an indicator of negative personality traits with regards to romance/sexuality, for both genders? If a man is concerned with his partner's high count, is he insecure (the go-to response in places like /r/relationships) or perfectly justified? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/03/15 02:57 PM |
| 3 | If alpha/fucks beta bucks is present in society, will men not continue to be adopt more RP values?that's a straight up delusion and/or hamstering. red pill is an outlier group that that majority of the population will always think is crazy (if it maintains it's present form/ideas). We obviously live in very different worlds. Have a conversation with the average British girl about TRP ideas, without using specific terminology. They'll disagree with bits and pieces based on personal preference but their broad attraction for the 'alpha' archetype and lack of attraction for the 'beta' archetype … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/03/15 02:39 PM |
| 2 | what direction do you think marriage rates are going to go over the next 20 years? what effect will this have on society?Marriage as an institution is still a fairly powerful cultural phenomenon, so in 20 years it won't be drastically different as there will be enough people in my generation that still apply value to it above and beyond that of the financial. Ask enough people, women especially, whether they hope for a big wedding day and you'll get a decent indication of the institution's standing in society, regardless of its religious connotations or what it means in terms of commitment in a relationship. In a … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/03/15 02:31 PM |
| 3 | If alpha/fucks beta bucks is present in society, will men not continue to be adopt more RP values?You're confusing TRP subscription on reddit with the total number of people who hold similar views but have never even heard of reddit, nevermind redpill. A huge proportion of the population, men and women, agree more or less with the majority of what TRP has to say, whether they'd be willing to publicly admit it or not. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/03/15 02:18 PM |
| 1 | [Discussion] If gender is purely a construct, how do we account for transgender people and other extreme outliers of their sex?Did you read my OP? The point of my post was kinda about how it can't logically be possible. You might sit there and respond glibly "well duh isn't this just common sense dumass?" No, it isn't. Just recently I was sat in a lecture (I study English at a fairly big UK University) that explicitly, didactically stated that "gender is a social construct". If in Universities they started sincerely teaching students that Unicorns exist, would you not be concerned? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/03/15 02:46 PM |
| 1 | [Discussion] If gender is purely a construct, how do we account for transgender people and other extreme outliers of their sex?There are obvious and scientifically noted differences between male and female brains, and transgender brains are structurally the same as the gender they identify with. That has nothing to do with society's views on what is feminine vs masculine. Sure, I'd agree that specific roles are a construct emergent from whatever culture you exist in, but there are common threads through almost all cultures which in my opinion suggest, when coupled with inherent differences between men and women, that mo… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/03/15 09:09 AM |
| 5 | [Discussion] If gender is purely a construct, how do we account for transgender people and other extreme outliers of their sex?So their behaviour will not necessarily change despite vast hormonal fluctuation during transitioning? This contradicts pretty much everything I've read from women who transition to men taking testosterone in particular. So much of human states of mind, take mental illness for instance, can be attributed to things like hormonal/chemical imbalances and is not thought to be purely subject to circumstance. The biology of the brain is incredibly powerful and we are subject to it for so much of our b… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/03/15 08:50 AM |
| 1 | Anger theory of the RP subreddit: Anger is an area of RP cognitive dissonance, related to the "give-a-care" ratio.GTAV turned him into weak sauce, he had serious oneitis for a disgusting woman who blatantly cuckolded him and he literally got curbstomped when the superior male got tired of his whiny shit. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/03/15 11:10 PM |
| 3 | Is there consensus that the female corollary of the friend zone is the "fuck zone"? if not why not? Also which is preferableBe interesting, be pleasant, be kind I feel like when it comes to commitment, this is the most important thing to a man, though I might just be speaking for myself. The women I develop strong feelings for just have a kind of pleasant warmth to their personality that can be intoxicating to be around. If I were to try to define an ideal attractive femininity, it would fundamentally be this very uniquely feminine pleasantness and soothing presence. A lot of people would mistake it for submissivenes… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/03/15 10:57 PM |
| 8 | What does TRP think about this video on "gender rolls"?(correct spelling. It will make sense in a second)As soon as we hit 18 (legal drinking age in my country btw) we have near-absolute freedom to do anything we want in life, restricted only by finance, the law and genetics (most people cannot be professional athletes for example). Blaming anybody else for your banal day-to-day decisions is weak sauce. It's really fucking childish in my opinion. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/03/15 09:17 AM |
| 1 | One day at a pub... a hypothetical.It's not illegal to have sex when underage with another underage person. So you would've called the cops if one was underage and the other overage. If one was 17, the other 18? Don't be ridiculous. I'm probably going to have to be considerably under the influence to lose my virginity as my social anxiety prevents flirting, and I wouldn't want to have sex with ugly, old and/or fat women sober anyway. Seems to me if you were in my social circle we'd be at an impasse. I don't think we'd get along, … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/03/15 05:11 PM |
| 2 | Is a man approaching a woman with a purely sexual intent wrong?Well, yeah. But that's not what we're talking about. We're talking about hookups. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/03/15 05:06 PM |
| 0 | One day at a pub... a hypothetical.that doesn't change the fact that it's a crime, I hope you threatened to call the cops whenever your friends engaged in underage sex. Personally as a virgin myself, I'd kick you right in the nuts for cockblocking me like that. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/03/15 04:16 PM |
| 1 | Is a man approaching a woman with a purely sexual intent wrong?The suspicions being that the person offering it lacks social awareness, If it's just for casual sex I honestly couldn't care less and I think most men would agree. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/03/15 04:11 PM |
| 1 | Why do Bluepillers object so stridently sexual realpolitik?very much value their partner's financial and intellectual contributions. I agree but I think OP relating her intellect specifically to her career and PHD is missing the point. To men it's far more of a general notion that we don't want to commit to someone we cannot relate to. I would prefer an intelligent woman who can hold an interesting conversation, but I don't give a flying fuck about her having a PHD or a particular salary (beyond it supporting a basic living standard). She could be a nur… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/02/15 05:19 PM |
| 1 | Study confirms that women with fewer sexual partners have higher quality marriages (confirms TRP theory about 'alpha widows')I agree, and it'd be nothing to do with potential divorce. I just wouldn't want to use my resources to raise some other guy's kid. I feel the same way about adopting. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/02/15 05:04 PM |
| 2 | If you like the Ghostbusters movies, are you disappointed with the all-female casting of the new Ghostbusters movie? Is feminism to blame for the casting?It does reveal though that idealism is not a relevant part of the wider discussion, that feminism is flexible to suit the situation and not rigidly about equality. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/01/15 05:39 PM |
| 1 | Female ideal of masculinity versus male ideal of masculinity?And quite frankly average is good enough for most women. That's not really much to aspire to though is it? I don't work out to attract the average woman, I work out to attract above average and also for general health and mental benefits. To get the woman's ideal of male attractiveness, it still requires hours upon hours at the gym every week. David Beckham for example is a professional athlete - soccer players are extremely fit. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/01/15 05:08 PM |
| 1 | What inherent differences do you believe exist between men and women?the existence of transsexuality supports this. Surely the accounts of people who transition and undergo drastic hormone changes can attest that there are differences between men and women? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/01/15 05:54 PM |
| 2 | Red Pillers: How come women can't love men unconditionally but men can love women conditionally?I think the idea of unconditional love is absurd, except for (in most cases) biological offspring. Do you love everyone you know well? No. Why not? There must be reasons, right? We all have reasons for why we love someone and not other people even if we don't consciously or intellectually understand them, hence all love is conditional. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/01/15 09:03 AM |
| 1 | Thirty-year old virgin here, I think this Pill crap is, well, crap. :-PThis describes me well except I wasn't abused by my parents. I did go through mild bullying in adolescence by certain people in my social circle I wouldn't call friends, but I'd see them a lot as they were friends of friends. It was the emotional kind over a period of 5-6 years where everything I did was put down and mocked. I slowly but surely shrank further and further into my shell. There has been maybe 1 person since that time with whom I could totally share myself emotionally. He left for c… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/09/14 04:23 PM |
| 3 | Thoughts on Paternity Tests?Tbh I really have no idea whether I'd ask for a test, I'm far too young to seriously consider any of this shit. I suppose what I'm really asking is if a man is paranoid enough (if you would indeed consider his concerns irrational then it's surely paranoia), then he should in fact not discuss these feelings of paranoia with his partner, and bottle them up internally? What you seem to be saying is that a man cannot open himself up to his partner about his insecurities...Or maybe he can but only on… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/09/14 05:57 PM |
| 0 | MoralityI don't know man, there seemed to be a lot of people throwing around the words "immoral" aimed at sexual strategy in another thread. It's ridiculous. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/09/14 05:35 PM |
| 3 | Thoughts on Paternity Tests?Firstly I apologise, my post was deliberately provocative. I just find it amazing that you'd drop everything over a simple question. Let's just say you had cheated but had successfully kept it secret, but he asked for a paternity test anyway, would you still leave out of principle because he wouldn't technically have reason to distrust you? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/09/14 04:07 PM |
| 6 | MoralityThere is no such thing as a universal morality. The concept is absurd. Who or what would prescribe such a thing? I'm atheist, I make my own morality based on a mix of what gets practical results and what helps me sleep at night. This is true for absolutely anyone who lives by any sort of moral code. There really is nothing more to it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/09/14 04:01 PM |
| 1 | Thoughts on Paternity Tests?It just doesn't seem very reasonable to me to want a paternity test without suspicion of cheating. So, just for argument's sake you cheated but were really good at hiding it and he didn't have a clue and didn't actually accuse you of cheating, would you still be offended out of principle if he asked for a paternity test? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/09/14 03:43 PM |
| 2 | Thoughts on Paternity Tests?You'd walk, but you'd also demand financial support. Funny how that works. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/09/14 03:40 PM |
| 2 | RPW and TRP: Article favorably compares techniques of abusers with PUA/TRP techniques. What do you think about this?I think this is probably the best post in an absolute disaster of a thread for all concerned. Wish I could give you more upvotes. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/09/14 03:32 PM |
| 1 | Thought experiment on marriageIt should be done for its own sake. Why? What if humans generally aren't built to maintain love for one person for decades? Is it best to deny that in favour of what sounds more morally 'nice'. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/09/14 09:37 AM |
| 4 | I am BP, but there seems to be one strange phenomenon that I have only seen explained by RPI broadly agree with you. Maybe something like "it's not because of you, don't worry" would be more reassuring, if indeed there is something wrong. Other than that, I refuse to second guess like this and I'll take what a woman says at face value if she's just sitting there stewing. I don't need attention from others so it wouldn't bother me. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/09/14 04:56 PM |
| 1 | Why is TRP some people's most hated sub?Hey, I'm just explaining RP thinking, I'm not saying I agree with it. The conventional wisdom is indeed to avoid LTRs unless you're desperate to procreate, mainly due to the legal crapshoot that is marriage these days. I do however think you may be wrong about declining fertility. Sure, you'll be able to conceive up to your 40s as long you don't have pre-existing complications, but there's more risk of miscarriage and defects. Safest bet is to aim younger. I'm not American btw, and we're not tal… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/09/14 06:14 PM |
| 1 | A wife's happiness is more crucial than her husband's in keeping marriage on track -- ScienceDailyObviously I don't know the kid but regardless of who he's looking for he will need to grow a firm spine to prosper in this world. The image you paint of him is one of a young man who will be deeply troubled by the world he encounters as he grows up. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/09/14 09:15 AM |
| 5 | How was your friday night purplepill?Nightclubs are shitty places to spend time; Couldn't agree more. They're designed to be antisocial, it's so loud you can't have a normal conversation so you chug your drink faster and thus buy more drinks. I'd only find value in one if there was a really good DJ and I just wanted to dance all night, possibly on certain illicit stimulants. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/09/14 08:26 AM |
| 2 | Why is TRP some people's most hated sub?This is definitely true. It's very easy to be fooled by a reddit page full of links of examples of feminism-gone-wrong. It's like someone who reads the Daily Mail regularly, of course they're going to be at least vaguely xenophobic, racist and possibly a bit homophobic. They're consuming scaremongering tabloid shite. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/09/14 08:14 AM |
| 3 | Why is TRP some people's most hated sub?Thus most of them are trying to attract women of a similar age, and as the above poster says the sub is about sexual strategy. It's obviously aimed at women where RP tenets will apply as a general pattern. The advice is to avoid women aged 30+, and not just because of diminishing fertility. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/09/14 08:09 AM |
| 1 | A wife's happiness is more crucial than her husband's in keeping marriage on track -- ScienceDailyUnfortunately for your son, sweet and generous are not sexually attractive qualities. I know this from experience. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/09/14 08:00 AM |
| 1 | What would you actually like women to do with their lives?You think the average women would accept advice from some guy telling them to change their whole identity and way of life? This is what frustrates me about a lot of liberal left (which I generally identify as), they/we seem to believe that we can change the world one pep talk at a time. It's arrogance and hubris. Without fear of consequence, people regress to their base desires. The 20-24 year old woman has nothing to immediately fear. Most of them already know instinctively that as they age the… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/09/14 04:57 PM |
| 1 | Why should a relationship be anything more than making 2 people happy?Why should you always follow your biological instinct? If it makes you happy and fulfills you. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/09/14 04:50 PM |
| 1 | Why should a relationship be anything more than making 2 people happy?You can be a highly ambitious individual and have trouble fitting into serious relationships, in fact it's probably more likely the case. Such people (both men and women) often find that it's not worth the effort and go with fuck buddies and FWBs, or if they have money, escorts. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/09/14 04:48 PM |
| 1 | I really want to discuss and study the Gervais Priniciple. Everything else just seems trivial now. Could we start with distinguishing different types of talk?The Clueless aren't necessarily naive, but they do attach their self-worth and gleefully dedicate their life to an external (and in the GP case) pathological system. They don't "ride" on top of the losers, they are placed there by Sociopaths because they're good for group morale. They are willing tools of the sociopath, because they naively believe the sociopaths are ultimately good and just. | /r/AlreadyRed | 25/06/14 08:38 PM |
| 2 | I really want to discuss and study the Gervais Priniciple. Everything else just seems trivial now. Could we start with distinguishing different types of talk?Interesting you bring up Kevin Spacey, reminding me of House of Cards. I might re-watch that series with a GP context. He elaborates his powertalk tactics by breaking the fourth wall, this is masturbatory catharsis for the audience, but I also suspect that a sociopath would secretly love the idea of having an audience to gloat to. | /r/AlreadyRed | 25/06/14 08:29 PM |
| 2 | Sober gameThe killer was directly addressing her arousal. I don't even need to rewatch to remember his comment about her marriage. It's a perfect storm for a good comedian on TV at a place of work. Do not pick on him otherwise he will dress you the fuck down on your own turf and will do so with impunity because your producer will love the ratings (no publicity is bad publicity). | /r/AlreadyRed | 25/06/14 08:06 PM |
| 3 | 1 in 10 men are unknowingly raising a child that isn't theirs. The women who do this to men are committing a crime.I'm just saying, this obviously means a lot to you, and I wish you well with that :) | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/06/14 08:19 AM |
| 1 | 1 in 10 men are unknowingly raising a child that isn't theirs. The women who do this to men are committing a crime.Good for you, I hope you feel happy and fulfilled in life :) | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/06/14 07:48 PM |
| 15 | 1 in 10 men are unknowingly raising a child that isn't theirs. The women who do this to men are committing a crime.This is a serious issue that clearly isn't being taken at all seriously. There's a lot of trolling and a total lack of meaningful debate. Bring this up again when the mods are back, OP. Some of the bullshit might get filtered out. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/06/14 05:57 PM |
| 2 | #YesAllCatsDo you think she realises that this post is TRP gold? It's almost like someone from TRP created a 'case study' for their theories, but nobody would believe it to be actually true. She's obviously an angry, damaged person. Best not to make fun :( | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/06/14 09:44 PM |
| 0 | Summary of Attitudes Towards WomenSounds true enough. I get the feeling that TBP men would be automatically more respectful towards women than they would automatically be towards other men, and significantly more afraid of causing offence. I don't understand this phenomenon. Do they believe that women are more emotionally fragile than men? Do they believe women need to be emotionally coddled? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/06/14 09:39 PM |
| 4 | Does feminism (and the general public) allow for agency?Seriously. So we do straw-TBP-members now? I mean, it's not really hard for you to look up what attitudes TBP-users actually express. I admit I was a little out of line. The point is that he didn't hate them for being oh so damnably alive, which would be totally unrelated to the manosphere. He hated them for having sex while he didn't. Come on, you're clearly more intelligent than that. Are you suggesting that if he didn't see them getting with white girls, then he wouldn't hate them? He already… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/05/14 07:20 PM |
| 3 | Does feminism (and the general public) allow for agency?I don't see why we shouldn't draw the connection to all the other people who believe the same things. Fair points, but I disagree with this premise. They're connected by similar beliefs, but there's no evidence that he was influenced by the manosphere. He was a member of PUAHate, I'm sure he'd have been a TBP mod if he'd have known enough about the place. He was also a massive racist, so maybe we should point the finger of blame at, say, Stormfront? He also explicitly states he wants to kill his… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/05/14 05:27 PM |
| 2 | Anti-Feminists - What principle of feminism do you disagree with, specifically? What makes you think that's an actual principle of feminism and not a strawman?Disclaimer: not a feminist here, this just a summary of something I read a while ago about rape culture (which I think is a purposefully overly-evocative term). I'm ready to stand corrected here. It's not the case that significant portions of society are okay with rape. Almost everyone can agree that it's an abhorrent crime, up there with murder as the worst thing you can do to a human. From what I can gather there are two distinct componets, occurring before and after the fact (the rape) respec… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/05/14 03:40 PM |
| 2 | Has anyone taken this feminism survey?Liberal Feminist - 41 Women of Color - 31 Socialist Feminist - 27 Radical Feminist - 22 Cultural Feminist - 21 Conservative - 19 I don't consider myself feminist. I'm a socially liberal egalitarian with economically centrist philosophies. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/05/14 01:24 PM |
| 3 | Does feminism (and the general public) allow for agency?Do you think that if the manosphere never existed, that Rodgers would never have killed anyone? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/05/14 08:29 AM |
| 4 | Is Elliot Rodger, the sexually frustrated mass murderer, redpill or bluepill?That doesn't mean the law should not treat people impartially and thus equally. By extension, I believe that a good society is one that provides equal opportunity...Then the strongest will succeed. One has to be careful however to prevent those successful people from simply creating success for their offspring. It's unclear whether those offspring are deserving of any success. They might be naturally stupid or physically weak, but they're being artificially (i.e. unnaturally) elevated, thus sure… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/05/14 09:41 AM |
| 1 | Why does this sub get linked to TBP?Debating them is giving a credence to their viewpoints. This is a dangerous point of view in my opinion. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/05/14 09:32 AM |
| 2 | Why do you hate feminism?There's no such thing as "feminism" in any meaningful way these days. It has to be clarified into somekind of category of feminism. Your post highlights exactly why - if someone tells me they're feminist, I don't really have any idea what they mean by that. Feminism no longer sits on a social spectrum of authoritarian vs. liberal, because you'll find many authoritarian feminists (SRS and the like), and many liberal feminists (who I would immediately identify with). It's kind of analogous to how … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/05/14 09:22 AM |
| 3 | InsecurityObviously it's extremely rare and unlikely to happen. Then again, it's extremely unlikely that you will be murdered. It's extremely unlikely that I, as a man, will be raped. Is it folly to be afraid of these things happening because they are unlikely? It's not a preoccupying fear that I carry around with me in life, it's just something that I've been almost trained to remember in romantic situations. There are people on here who think a woman who's had a couple of drinks is unable to give consen… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/05/14 01:43 PM |
| 5 | InsecurityAre they scared of being accused of being rapists/paedophiles/child molesters ? Is this not a legitimate fear? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/05/14 01:24 PM |
| 1 | What is Rape?I'm interested in your opinion of sex in a relationship, if the woman enjoys a glass or two of wine on a night and then has sex with her partner...Is there a point of inebriation (within reason) after which a person in a relationship cannot give informed consent to their partner and is thus by your definition being raped? Is this 'point' different from ONS? Even outside of relationships, at what specific point is someone too drunk to have sex? Should it just be down to intuition, i.e. "well she … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/05/14 12:22 PM |
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