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Don't know who lied to you about this....lol I've read it so many times on this sub. I obviously don't believe it, but mentioned it to pre-empt everyone saying 'girls aren't visual. It's not his looks' too avoid it getting sidetracked from the discussion of verbally flirting with lots of PUA techniques vs just a cheeky smile or wahtever like my friend. Same effect, really Even on that big thread yesterday that got deleted it was said many times. Game is flirting yes yes, that's what i'm getting …
/r/seduction03/08/26 09:03 PM
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. My advice is to not force your "fliritng" do you think this applies to cold appraoch, too? Sometimes I think you can approach a girl who thinks you're kinda cute. You could do lots of pushpull lines, use a we frame, disqualify her, try to think of things you can tease her about etc etc and it go great. But you could also just literally give her a certain flirty look with your eyes and achieve the same thing, no? (I think of this sometimes when I see my flatmate pull girls. He's a pretty good l…
/r/seduction03/08/26 06:21 PM
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How? By escalating. Tease and flirt with her, be lightly polarizing by bantering with her. Then look at her reaction. what would you tease and flirt with her about? what would you asay?
/r/seduction03/08/26 09:04 AM
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For as much as a game stan I am I got to the same conclusion that whenever game “works” is because you hit on a chick that liked you and there were good logistics to pull. Everything i see from my own interactions, friends interactions and even coaches, tells me you are right. And I don't like it! lol
/r/seduction02/08/26 09:27 PM
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I remember back in the day when I was just newly introduced to MM, I used the same opening “real quick, who lies more…” then one of the girls just said “oh I’ve heard this before!” LoL. I heard of that happening lots back in the day. I read that's why RSD decided to drop all canned game and go natural. But MysteryMethod is so old that the women who'd have heard it will be at home knitting. It's their grand daughters in the bars now who will never have heard of it. Not to mention that MM isn't po…
/r/seduction02/08/26 08:57 PM
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Learn to sing and go to a karaoke b I actually already go kareoke bars and am a good singer haha. Unfortunately is doesn't = sexual attraction. But it's all good. I just keep approaching (I do get lucky from time to time thankfully but it could take me many hundreds of approaches) and trying and accept that life is different for the lucky handsome SOBs lol
/r/seduction02/08/26 09:31 AM
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They say 'looks get your foot in the door' or something like that. And 'game' is for converting that attraction into something. So I guess it depends how you look at it. Also, even if you aren't conventionally good looking, there's deffo some girls out there who will still think you are very hot/handsome. And they are the girls who your game will work on. So one would need to play the numbers more than the good looking dudes
/r/seduction02/08/26 08:14 AM
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got to youtube and you'll find lots of videos of young women saying the exact opposite to you and that good looks are essential for THEM girls to be interetsed.
/r/seduction02/08/26 08:03 AM
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I had an acquaintance who's slept with hundreds of women because he's a stupidly handsome personal trainer. He's also 5'8 and skinny. Not a Chad? Same as one of my best friends. He's not a 'chad' because he's not over 6ft or whatever, but he has legit male model good looks and has banged hunreds of extrmeely pretty young girls all due to his face alone lol
/r/seduction01/08/26 10:53 PM
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but she doesn’t seem to like me in that way even though I make her laugh a lot and I’ve had a massive appearance glow up. Is it possible to make a girl go from friendly to actually liking me? I don't think so. As you've seen (and as i've seen) you can make a girl laugh. You can TEASE her and use pushpull and do all the stuff in the PUA courses, but it doesn't actually make her attracted. I've found girls can even think you are extremely confident, but they still will have zero sexual attraction …
/r/seduction01/08/26 10:43 PM
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it's basically always online nowadays. There was a thread here recently which confirmed it. 99% of guys who get laid on this sub and other seduction places are getting laid from tinder. Cold approach is low odds because you might approach girls who do'nt tihnk you''re hot and so it's like a guaranteed rejection even if you've read all teh seduction books and have 'game'. With tinder, if she swipes right, she thinks you're hot lol.
/r/seduction01/08/26 08:58 PM
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nailed it
/r/seduction31/07/26 09:27 PM
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The community is somewhat dead. There used to be lots of PUA forums and stuff and they've nearly all gone now. I think the belief in 'game' (the idea that you can make someone attracted if you say the right words etc) has completely gone. And that belief in part makes people think 'I may as well just use tinder then' Cold approach itself was probably always somewhat niche, although i'd imagine it's become even less common. For one, The world just isn't quite as social as maybe it once was? It's …
/r/seduction31/07/26 07:16 PM
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you've posted quite a few Field reports now. I don't think the game stuff has been helping you. Maybe drop it and just be normal/natural. It's clear that teasing or any other concept doesn't actually make a girl suddenyl find you sexually attractive
/r/seduction31/07/26 10:36 AM
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or stay in the same category if you prefer acting like you're not interested in her. that's supposed to actually make them chase according to lots of coaches. Ignore girls to make them interested in you...like cats
/r/seduction29/07/26 09:41 PM
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But women don't take it as a compliment. they do if they think you're hot/handsome. I think this stuff is more about luck/chance overall. There's girls out there somewhere who want us and you need to turn over a lot of rocks to find them
/r/seduction28/07/26 12:13 PM
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I guess it works if the girl in question thinks you are above average looking. I mean, not every girl has 'typical' taste, maybe But i'm pretty convinced at this point that you really can't cultivate attraction in a girl using the stuff we all read and try (the techniques).
/r/seduction27/07/26 07:14 PM
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that's all this sub seems to be. Apparent 'experts' who when questioned about something just seem to doge it again and again. Maybe just a coach who is actually no more successful than you, fishing for business
/r/seduction27/07/26 07:08 PM
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it doesn't sound like he's running what people like Todd V would call 'game' (the way OP he describes his convos is the complete opposite to Todd), so the attraction is coming from somewhere else maybe
/r/seduction24/07/26 07:29 PM
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What about NEUTRAL girls? Do they just not exist? Interesting are you 'netural' on girls out of interest? maybe me and you are just different, but I can honestly say I put girls into 'would love to bang' and 'not interetsed in having sex with them' when i lay eyes on them. I don't have a 'neutral' category
/r/seduction24/07/26 06:43 PM
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of course! nothing wrong with just wanting to bang someone super hot, evne if they are not nice All you can do is show some intent and see if she's into you or not.
/r/seduction24/07/26 06:25 PM
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I’d rather choose one imperfect approach and practice it hundreds of times than keep reading contradictory advice about direct vs. indirect, observations, pickup lines, etc. I think you have to accept that there is no consensus and you will always get VERY different advice from apparent experts. One coach will say that in an interaction the thigns you MUST do are, for example, do cold reads, tease her, disqualify her, use a 'we frame' where you talk about 'us' and tonnes of other things And a di…
/r/seduction24/07/26 06:11 PM
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some nice girls there!
/r/seduction24/07/26 06:08 PM
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how did it happen? did they come on to you?
/r/seduction24/07/26 04:05 PM
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the whole community seems to do online stuff way more now. Other pickup forums and stuff i've read, it seems people are only getting laid with tinder etc. I guess it's just more efficient. You are 'approaching' many girls in an hour with just swiping. I guess there's really not any difference. The girls who swipe back are the same girls who would be receptive to your approach and visa versa
/r/seduction24/07/26 08:34 AM
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what is your attraction material/method mainly? Imagine you are considered a 2/10 in looks and for whatever reason, you HAVE to seduce the gorgeous 10/10 girl you just met otherwise your dog dies lol How do you make her attracted. Would it be basically the stuff everyone here tries? (teasing, pushpull etc from coaches like Todd V?) or something else? (how would it look in practice/verbally. e.g Todd says 'you look like trouble' a hell of a lot)
/r/seduction22/07/26 05:32 PM
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why are the other instructos SO MUCH less 'gamey' than Todd? But they all get the same results, seemingly (kind of hit and miss) Whenever I watch them all, I start to even doubt game a bit lol (or at least the idea that there's right and wrong or things you need to do or not do). Todd seems to work a million times harder than the others for the same results but I guess End of day it all works. It's maybe more about approaching until you find the girl you have chemistry and mutual attraction with
/r/seduction22/07/26 09:47 AM
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definitely agree to disagree haha
/r/seduction21/07/26 09:01 PM
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no way lol
/r/seduction21/07/26 08:50 PM
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the answer is that you need both.(phsyical attraction but being super weird and having bad game wo'nt cut it. And teasing girls and using 'game' won't help at all if there's absolutely no physical attraction and you are way older, fatter, and balder than what she goes for)
/r/seduction21/07/26 01:40 PM
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it's both. You need physical attraction AND game. One without the other is not enough (unless you are a giga chad which is rare. He can get away with zero game and steal all our girls but them guys are SO rare lol)
/r/seduction21/07/26 01:37 PM
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in Max's case, he literally took her home without speaking to her lol. Not just the instant makeout (which is all i've ever got in terms of not having to speak)
/r/seduction20/07/26 09:34 PM
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I think the consensus amongst coaches nowadays is more that 'looks get your foot in the door, but you still need game to seal the deal'
/r/seduction20/07/26 07:57 PM
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MaxRSD pulled without saying a word in one of his infields lol. I've had instant makeouts, so I guess an instant bang could happen sometimes if you were good looking enough and she was adventurous enough
/r/seduction20/07/26 07:43 PM
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exactly lol
/r/seduction20/07/26 04:37 PM
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of course. Because the lines (based on whatever armchair theory) don't work.
/r/seduction20/07/26 04:20 PM
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how does a girl speak to you to make you attracted to her?
/r/seduction20/07/26 04:19 PM
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every handsome guy I know crushes it, so can't really relate to that tbh
/r/seduction20/07/26 02:37 PM
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If the lines are cingey isn't that the fault of the person who writes the book? (the writer has bad game, thus his lines are cringey?)
/r/seduction20/07/26 02:36 PM
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hitting the gym. Improving fashion. Smelling nice
/r/seduction20/07/26 08:16 AM
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it's just basic social kills, really. I read lots of the pickup books and realised it was all so obvious ("if she tells you something try to relate too it" etc). I think 'game' is basically something that everyone already has, but some people maybe grew up extremely socially stunted, so they need to 'learn game' to get them up to the same level as everyone else kind of thing
/r/seduction19/07/26 08:17 PM
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this is like old school classic game? I gather that modern game is much more just be yourself and don't use any scripted lines or force any techniques kind of thing. RSD type stuff. 'natural' ALlthough Mystery still teaches this and he says he's still crushing it with his students
/r/seduction17/07/26 10:25 PM
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agree
/r/seduction16/07/26 02:50 PM
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However, when you strip away terminology, it is basically humans communicating with each other at the end of the day, no more, no less. I had the same sort of thought recently. That all it really is is basic social skills that lots of people already have and don't need to 'learn'. My social skills were already 'ok ish' and maybe that's why I I've not felt like i've really 'learnt' anything new or that excited me in all the books i've read so far. You can give simply agreeing with a girl a fancy …
/r/seduction16/07/26 02:23 PM
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As much as I dislike that claviular guy, I think it's a bit cheeky for coaches to try to use one clip of him getting rejected like i've seen coaches doing on youtube. For one they seem to forget that there's compilations all over youtube of these coaches themselves also getting rejected lots but they don't want to think about that of course Not to mention that they don't talk about the footage of clavicular making out with like 5 absolutely stunning girls in a row. As I say, it feels like both s…
/r/seduction14/07/26 09:14 PM
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yes, I think the real solution is to approach in extreme amounts if one wants to get some results. You need to put the odds in your favor. Kind of like a slot machine
/r/seduction14/07/26 03:34 PM
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Both sides are lying (the blackpillers who claim you need to be a 10/10 in looks to get success and the coaches who tell you a pack of lies about how looks don't matter and if you buy their course and use their methods you can clean up)
/r/seduction14/07/26 03:22 PM
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Man I was talking too a girl last night who sounds so similar. She's a pretty girl, my brothers girlfriends friend. She was simping hard over some guy she's been seeing who is using her for sex and she was talking about her other ex's and stuff and it's just a lineup of hardcore criminals lol. Some serious crimes in there I don't think there's anything you can do though. You can't just put on a leather jacket and start swearing more lol. You can't pretend to be a truly dark, 'bad' character like…
/r/seduction12/07/26 05:36 PM
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they're probably using pushpull lines etc
/r/seduction06/07/26 05:59 PM
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just general good looks I guess. We have a good looking mechanic at my job and all the girls have been obsessed with him from the moment they saw him
/r/seduction02/07/26 09:15 PM
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good post
/r/seduction02/07/26 03:51 PM
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