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Born again "virgins" among "Christian" women >>>>>>>> real virgins in terms of numbers. I suspect there are almost no true "Christian" virgins anymore. Any traditional woman wouldn't be single at 32 either.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/22 02:26 PM
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LOL woman giving birth in 50s and 60s
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/22 02:10 PM
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Women are having fewer kids then ever in the West
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/22 05:23 PM
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Truth. Its just shaming language that feminists love to do.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/22 05:18 PM
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This is all gibberish unless you marry and stay together long term
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/22 05:16 PM
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If its untrue, then why don't the women just get higher income jobs to make up the difference? She could then easily pay 50/50 bills and bring in 50% of the income.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/22 05:15 PM
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Yeah she wants him to pay all the bills and pay for a housekeeper/lawn guy while she bangs the pool boy and goes to Starbucks with her friends all day.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/22 03:37 PM
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Its not hard to determine who makes the majority of money in a marriage.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/22 03:34 PM
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so whats the point of asking?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/22 03:34 PM
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I dont know many PCP women marrying construction workers in the first place. And I know plenty of female physicians lol
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/22 03:33 PM
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So feminists want to marry guys who make less since they are making more?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/22 03:32 PM
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What if it was 500K and up? Would you believe that?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/22 03:31 PM
1

I agree That is a much better deal
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/22 03:13 PM
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Good Its amazing that all the females on PPD are the main earners who do half the chores without resentment. Wonder why im a little skeptical lol
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/22 03:11 PM
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Equality by feminist standards= men pay most of the bills and do at least half of the chores at home
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/22 03:11 PM
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Nice strawman. I said if male makes good majority of money with paying the bills, the female should do the good majority of chores at home to make it equal.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/22 03:07 PM
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The man probably should never marry since I see plenty of "equal" women wanting to go part time or stop working after having at most 1 kid.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/22 03:07 PM
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"Equity" when it benefits the female. Always a new way of "measuring" stuff to make women a little more "equal" then men.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/22 03:06 PM
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Guess the best move is just to avoid marriage in general since I cant see this stuff being worked out
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/22 03:05 PM
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In general that is true. We all have to make generalizations to address a general point.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/22 02:31 PM
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Even with 50/50 custody, the lower paid person gets some supplementation from higher paid one.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/22 02:29 PM
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Women have equal if not higher infidelity stats these days too
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/22 02:28 PM
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Marriage entitles them to half your assets/income during the course of marriage at a minimum.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/22 02:28 PM
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You "made more at one point" but clearly dont now.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/22 02:27 PM
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Income isnt based on hours worked though. Tell the women to stop bitching about doing a few chores since its small stuff
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/22 02:26 PM
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Cool. I see no problem with splitting rent 50/50 and chores 50/50 in a no marriage situation.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/22 02:24 PM
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How the fuck should I know you're Asian? Only Asians are soyboys? Plenty of all race soyboys in the USA with zero T. Thats racist if thats what you're inferring
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/22 02:22 PM
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It does when it comes to the finances
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/22 02:21 PM
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Soy is racist? You sure you're in college bro? Are you majoring in gender studies or something? lol
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/22 02:20 PM
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Yes and that is how most of these situations are going. 50/50 custody and hopefully the dude smart enough to lower his income to not break his ass in child support.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/22 02:20 PM
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A good number of male physicians marry lower paid females (majority of male physician marriages)
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/22 02:14 PM
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How many people in real life do you see where the female outearns the male and does 50/50 chores
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/22 02:14 PM
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Well good luck with that. Call me in 10 years and let me know how it works.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/22 02:12 PM
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Plenty of women earning less or not at all are whining incessantly about the "unfairness" of doing chores.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/22 02:10 PM
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Good luck with that
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/22 02:07 PM
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He is there paying all the bills and keeping the roof over her head with the children.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/22 02:06 PM
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Yet I never see these couples in real life where the female pays the bills and does 50/50 chores with the lower paid husband.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/22 02:05 PM
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Thats cool
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/22 02:02 PM
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I see plenty of "marriages" which mostly end in divorce for 50 and under when the female becomes "unhappy" I have literally never seen one where the female consistently earns more then the male, pays the bills and does 50/50 housework with the husband.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/22 02:01 PM
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Women will want to do "what you do for work"
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/22 02:00 PM
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Yes that is another risk that a man takes with marriage. Very often the "high paying" female partner who is "equal" has one kid and decides to go part time or stop working but expects "equality" with chores and everything else.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/22 01:58 PM
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That logic has worked well for them. It gets cucked husbands to pay all the bills, kill themselves at work, etc while they sit on their ass all day watching Oprah or banging their side boyfriend.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/22 01:56 PM
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They can never see "unfairness" when it benefits them. Then its like, whats the problem? Isn't it about "love" or some other emotional claptrap. But if they lose in any fashion, watch how fast they complain.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/22 01:54 PM
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See how much "love" the female gives the male when he doesn't make much money lol
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/22 01:52 PM
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So you do equal chores with him?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/22 01:51 PM
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They magically care about income when it comes to dating, especially by their mid to late 20s
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/22 01:50 PM
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Dating isnt the issue. Its marriage to the woman with less income that isn't going to be much of a mother or do chores.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/22 01:47 PM
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Thats good. Then they can pay the majority of the bills and expect the guy to do more chores.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/22 01:47 PM
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Yes it is but most people dont have enough assets
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/22 01:46 PM
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No it shouldn't It should be divided based on income as well
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/22 01:46 PM
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Doing "chores" without many kids isnt much work
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/22 01:46 PM
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So doing chores should get paid more then a fast food job?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/22 01:43 PM
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What does that have to do with this argument?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/22 01:42 PM
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Good then this post doesn't apply to higher income females and only to the 70% the other way.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/22 01:33 PM
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Cleaning a house with no kids requires far less time then a full time job that pays a high income.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/22 01:33 PM
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Truth
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/22 01:32 PM
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huh?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/22 01:31 PM
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Then she should go to university to get these high paying jobs to pay 50/50 of the bills and income. Problem solved!
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/22 01:31 PM
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She is a slave when she does the majority of the chores whenhe pays the majority of the bills? Feminist logic 101
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/22 01:30 PM
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Are you arguing women are looking to marry men who make less then them in general? I dont even need to source that argument do I? lol
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/22 01:29 PM
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Yes
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/22 01:27 PM
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That is why I said 3+ kids for housewife is a fair deal with the male with higher income if she takes care of the kids and does all the chores
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/22 01:26 PM
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Nice strawman I clearly stated if she pays 50/50 with 50/50 income then he should be expected to do 50/50 chores
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/22 01:25 PM
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Of course you did
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/22 01:24 PM
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Cool
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/22 01:24 PM
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She gives him "access to birthing" due to him providing income. He is paying for that. I agree that the vast majority of men would be better off single banging random sugar babies in short term relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/22 01:23 PM
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Lets see how long she remains married to him if he stops bringing in the money lol
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/22 01:22 PM
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"Built from love"= man pays all the bills and has vast majority of income that he gives to his wife. If he fails to do this, he gets the boot and the "love" disappears.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/22 01:20 PM
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Well thats what we're talking about lol
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/22 01:19 PM
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Cool I guess some slaves live longer too.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/22 01:19 PM
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I know you "don't care" since that benefits the female. You only care if the male gets any benefit. Feminism 101
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/22 01:17 PM
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Marriage rates at at all time lows
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/22 01:16 PM
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Because if he brings in the vast majority of the money and pays majority of the bills, he should get benefits for it. Thats true "equality"
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/22 01:16 PM
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Why not? I thought they want "equality"?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/22 01:14 PM
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Yes women should go get high paying jobs and support a house husband if they want.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/22 01:14 PM
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There is no point to marriage under the current laws but that is for another discussion
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/22 01:13 PM
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Truth
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/22 01:12 PM
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Yes those men are stupid but fortunately the marriage rates are at all time lows.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/22 01:11 PM
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Yes and why should he do that if there arent that many chores to do in the first place? Only if they had 3+ kids does that require it being a full time stay at home wife.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/22 01:11 PM
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So he brings in the vast majority of the money to pay >50% of the bills to finance her to do hobbies. I fail to see the benefit he obtains lol
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/22 01:09 PM
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Yes that would be "fair" too but the vast majority of women don't want a househusband while they pay the bills
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/22 01:08 PM
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I see no points addressed
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/22 01:07 PM
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Wait is she a single mom or married? lol
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/22 01:06 PM
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You are trying to ignore the 500lb gorilla that he brings in the vast majority of the income and pays >50% of the bills yet he should get zero benefit for it using some strawman circular argument. I don't consider that a "good faith" argument.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/22 01:06 PM
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So the man should give her access to his higher income for nothing in return?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/22 01:05 PM
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Yeah but with the high divorce rates (90% initiated by females), its hard for the male to take that risk. Furthermore, your argument is the man should be a slave to the female by giving her his income for nothing in return except her "love" which is condition on his income? How long would that "love" last if he dropped his income to poverty wages? We all know that answer lol
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/22 01:02 PM
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Yes feminism is about getting women as much benefit at the expense of men. Thanks for the proper definition.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/22 01:00 PM
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Thanks for not addressing the question lol
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/22 01:00 PM
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Yeah I know. Women like to do BS fake hobbies while living off their husband's income while demanding "equality" on the chores or a housekeeper using the husband's money.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/22 12:59 PM
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What benefit does he get to pay her bills when he has to do the majority of the housework? The female seems to bring nothing to the table and is just a parasite off his labor at this point.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/22 12:58 PM
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Well then she should've made better career choices
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/22 12:57 PM
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So the man should risk his assets and pay the majority of the bills for "love" that statistically lasts only 3 years? Doesn't sound very "equal" lol
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/22 12:57 PM
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Correct. We should change all the marriage laws to reflect this and make it "equal" then.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/22 12:55 PM
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Yet those types of relationships are very rare
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/22 12:53 PM
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Well then he should've get one of the lower stress high paying jobs since they are so easy to find.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/22 12:53 PM
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He is paying the majority of the bills and she has a far higher lifestyle as a result then she could on her own.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/22 12:52 PM
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Wait I thought feminism was about 50/50 "equality"? Im confused?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/22 12:51 PM
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So basically you are arguing the man should finance the female with his extra salary but she should do nothing for him in terms of chores. If the female earns the same amount with 50/50 bills, then she can expect 50/50 division of chores (assuming equal assets brought to the table). Thats true "equality"
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/22 12:51 PM
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No female should "handle all the chores" as her sole job unless there are at least 3 kids. Doing housework/chores when there are no kids or 1 kid are FAR less hours then the man doing a full time job.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/22 12:49 PM
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He would have an earlier retirement if he just lived by himself and saved money while banging sugar babies on the side if he wants. Why "marry" and finance her lifestyle with risks to assets/divorce/etc?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/22 12:48 PM
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Oh so now we're not "equal" all of a sudden since I am pointing out the unfair benefits the female gets? Feminism 101: When female gets benefits at the expense of male its cool but when male gets any benefits its "oppression" I love how this works lol
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/22 12:47 PM
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If there are all of these easy jobs that pay great money, then the female should easily find one as well and make the same salary. Then they both can pay 50/50 the bills and house cleaning.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/22 12:45 PM
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I don't believe a female should be a housewife without at least 3 kids. I rather have her work her "shitty" easier job and still do the majority of the housework or contribute 50/50 to the bills with prenup etc. What benefit is a "housewife" with no kids to the man?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/22 12:44 PM
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Yet women are often claiming "oppression" in these situations if they have to do the housework.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/22 12:43 PM
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That is true but the female in this situation hasn't sacrificed anywhere near the same degree and has a lower paying job comparatively. Why shouldn't the man get benefits for that?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/22 12:43 PM
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What about all the time/sacrifice the man had to work to achieve such a high income before he met the female? He didn't just get such a high paying job quickly but had to work into it through education/sacrifice/skill gaining/etc. How is he compensated for that?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/22 12:42 PM
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Name the "easy as fuck" jobs that require no education/sacrifice that make 500k/year
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/22 12:40 PM
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So the man who makes far more money and likely pays the good majority of the bills still has to do 50/50 chores? Why would he share his money with the female in that situation? How is that not slavery for the male? He is basically financing her lifestyle for zero benefit back.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/22 12:39 PM
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Yes that is a possible solution: 1) Prenup before marriage 2) Agreement to no alimony in case of divorce 3) 50/50 splitting of bills 4) 50/50 splitting of housework
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/22 12:38 PM
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Typically higher waged jobs require much more education/sacrifice/skill to achieve. That is why they are higher paid. Why should the man who is paid far more not get benefits from that in some "marriage"? He is not going to be paying bills 50/50 if he makes far more either.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/22 12:37 PM
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Same for the female. The female expecting the man to be far richer/make far more money but then demand housework done or taking care of the kids isn't very "egalitarian" either.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/22 12:28 PM
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How old are you? Are you married without a prenup? Do you have more assets then him as well? Do you have children? Lets really test this "theory"
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/22 12:26 PM
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Yeah magically most women dont like prenups in the other direction though and try to get them thrown out in court lol
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/22 12:22 PM
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For some reason, I bet you are lying about making more money and are just trying to strawman out of his very coherent and accurate argument.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/22 12:16 PM
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How come I only find these type of women online and never in real life? I have never seen a female who outearns her husband and does 50:50 housework as well in any long term marriage.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/22 12:11 PM
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So women specifically go for men who outearn them by a good margin but then want "equality" when it comes to housework. Doesnt sound very "equal" to me, regardless of hours worked at the job. Maybe the guy worked many years at school/long hours for decades to achieve that salary when the female partied during her youth? Now they work the same hours but he makes 10X as much per hour and she should consider that "equal"?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/22 12:08 PM
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Interesting how a woman who has the exact same situation cries about "oppression". When the female makes more money and expects the man to be a "stay at home" parent, then the woman has a prenup setup, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/22 12:05 PM
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Bullshit. Russia has already taken over the biggest nuclear plants, have control over the black sea and have locked off all the big cities with siege tactics. Ukraine is losing pretty quickly (only 4 week war so far) Putin will probably win within 3 months or so without much difficulty.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/22 11:36 AM
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Fat fucks all over the MidWest and South
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/22 12:56 AM
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Russia isnt losing. Zelensky isn't whining for a "no fly zone" if he was winning Time will tell who imposes their will on whom.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/22 12:54 AM
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India is working directly with Russia. USA couldn't even "curb stomp" the Taliban and lost a multi trillion dollar war over 20 years. Russia/China would smash USA military pretty easily.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/22 12:53 AM
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Even India is supporting China/Russia against the West. The West is getting older and weaker. It can't win militarily either against these countries so the power dynamics are changing. ​ It will get alot worse in the future.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/22 12:01 AM
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There will be far more "disruptions" coming up too in the future with higher frequency. I don't see it getting better.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/22 09:52 PM
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There was a very difficult dating market already in the 1990s before OLD or social media. Most dating was in bars/clubs: 1) Guido roided out guys ran the show there. Average guy was rejected 2) Women were very visual and materialistic already at 25 and under in the 1990s. OLD and social media just switched the hypergamy to the internet space.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/22 11:58 AM
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Did he put a time limit on the commitment?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/22 08:25 PM
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Where's the "love" in a society where men can be divorce raped? False Rape charges? Affirmative Action? etc? So now men need to "love" women and treat them with 100% integrity and "respect" despite this society?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/22 08:01 PM
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He did commit. For a few hours.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/22 07:42 PM
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That wont prevent them from banging more women. Women like fuckboys
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/22 07:41 PM
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Hypergamy leads to "pump and dump" Sex is offered to men who are out of the SMV league of the female. Men decide to take the sex but dont want commitment in this scenario. Hence, the "pump and dump"
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/22 07:38 PM
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"hate" women lol
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/22 07:37 PM
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Women use "deceptive" tactics all the time. Don't see why men arent allowed these options.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/22 07:24 PM
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That men dont owe women commitment after sex
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/22 07:24 PM
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Cant a man change his opinion later though?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/22 07:23 PM
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Thanks bro
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/22 07:01 PM
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Women on reddit argue against the men owning commitment part
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/22 06:58 PM
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He cant change his mind?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/22 06:57 PM
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I am saying he can dump her right after ejaculation to eternity based on saying he was "committed". Its meaningless.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/22 06:56 PM
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Not for Chads
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/22 06:54 PM
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But isnt that how women normally date by using "deceptive" tactics? Why can't men employ this?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/22 06:54 PM
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Women rather bang Chad to attempt to get his commitment then have monogamy with average dude. Ergo, the modern dating market
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/22 06:53 PM
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Yes and so is my idea related to commitment
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/22 06:51 PM
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Women on reddit dont
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/22 06:36 PM
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THat won't happen as noted in the above post
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/22 06:35 PM
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I said they werent obligated
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/22 06:35 PM
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not the females on reddit
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/22 06:34 PM
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That happens regardless. Women will bitch about him postnut or if it was LTR breakup.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/22 06:33 PM
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That wont happen as I discussed above
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/22 06:32 PM
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Wheres the deceit?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/22 06:32 PM
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Reputation by whom?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/22 06:31 PM
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100% truth
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/22 06:31 PM
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He was committed until he nutted
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/22 06:31 PM
0

Who defines "long"?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/22 06:31 PM
-1

I have no "conscience" issue. Any woman that has premarital sex is fair game to be pumped and dumped by any "moral" code
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/22 06:30 PM
0

No "reasonable" person believes a female that goes on an expensive dinner with a male only to dump him right afterwards wanted a relationship and just used him for dinner by that logic?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/22 06:29 PM
0

He was with her until he nutted. Isn't that fulfilling it?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/22 06:24 PM
1

Nothing hypocritical. If women are having sex without marriage, men don't need to offer commitment. Feminism 101
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/22 06:23 PM
0

Chad usually doesn't talk about commitment as point 1 describes.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/22 06:22 PM
3

There is no "intentional misleading". He just lost interest after he nutted. He decided she isn't "girlfriend material"
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/22 06:21 PM
-2

Yes most modern people think FWBs is fine too
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/22 06:21 PM
19

Thats because women understand marriage is a scam. Its only stupid "romantic" men that fall for it now.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/22 06:20 PM
1

Women never had an issue with that when it comes to divorcing men, using them for dinner dates, etc. Only for this issue its "immoral"?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/22 06:12 PM
1

good idea
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/22 06:11 PM
6

Women dont owe men sex Men dont owe women commitment Either party can change their thoughts at anytime right? Feminism 101
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/22 06:10 PM
2

So getting banged out by tons of Chads as FWBs isn't "douchebag" behavior because you define it that way? Female logic 101 lol
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/22 06:09 PM
1

You should avoid commitment in general
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/22 06:08 PM
1

Good then you should be happy
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/22 06:08 PM
-1

A week can be a long time when they often leave within hours.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/22 06:07 PM
0

They commit until they nut
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/22 06:07 PM
3

Nothing wrong with my definition of "commitment"
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/22 06:06 PM
1

Men shouldn't marry. That is how they can avoid this issue.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/22 06:05 PM
1

Ergo the purpose of the post for men.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/22 06:05 PM
-3

So you never had sex outside of marriage? Then it shouldn't be an issue for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/22 06:04 PM
2

No problem, ergo why men shouldn't offer formal commitment.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/22 06:03 PM
-9

There are "morals" in modern dating? Any sex outside of marriage is considered "immoral" by default.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/22 06:03 PM
0

Are you in their mind? Many men feel committed until nutting. You aren't a male so you don't understand.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/22 06:01 PM
3

Wait I thought women were strong and independent and "didn't need no man"? So whats the problem?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/22 06:00 PM
-1

He has to commit for as long as it takes to bang her out right? He can't be in two places at the same time right? So I mean he gave her some level of commitment by defintion.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/22 05:58 PM
2

Lead on? He commited to her until he creampied her and then changed his mind afterwards. How is that "lying"?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/22 05:57 PM
0

Its no "meaner" then a woman who decides to lead a guy on with him paying for dinner and then deciding to not date him anymore afterwards.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/22 05:57 PM
1

Sure thats his perogative.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/22 05:56 PM
3

What "verbal" commitment though? He might say he feels "committed" and then changes his mind afterwards?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/22 05:55 PM
8

Yeah marriage is useless for men too. I see no real scenario men should get into legalized commitment unless the woman is far richer.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/22 05:54 PM
-1

Yeah "honor"= men should remain traditional while women don't
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/22 05:53 PM
6

Whose "society"? Society decided women are whores if they had sex outside of marriage or were leftovers if they didnt marry by 25.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/22 05:52 PM
3

Women decided to "stop being traditional" while they demanded men continue to be "traditional". This is just now men deciding to not "be traditional" anymore either. If one party breaks the contract, it shouldn't apply to the other.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/22 05:51 PM
-1

Of course its commitment. He is with her exclusively (or possibly her friend too added on) for the few hours he is having sex with her/them.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/22 05:50 PM
5

Whats "lawyering"? Doesn't a man have the right to change his mind?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/22 05:50 PM
2

How is he "a priori" lying? He might feel committed until he nuts and then takes off.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/22 05:49 PM
10

Yes they do. The solution for that is to avoid paying for women not whining about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/22 05:49 PM
-2

Maybe he feels commitment to her until he nuts? How is that not commitment? and I'd get "sued" for what?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/22 05:48 PM
7

No they won't. Chads will always have large numbers of women who will offer him sex in the hopes of commitment. Sexlessness is only for the average dude who has to wait until he is older to get a used woman for "marriage".
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/22 05:47 PM
2

The man doesn't wait because he isn't interested in long term commitment. Its the female who is upset by this and demands "commitment"
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/22 05:46 PM
1

Why not? Plenty of men commit until postnut and then change their mind.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/22 05:45 PM
0

Who defines "yeah you nasty"? By "traditional standards", any woman having sex outside of marriage is considered a whore and "nasty" right? Yet women fought against this idea. Ergo, there is no such thing as "yeah you nasty" in modern dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/22 05:44 PM
3

Its because women are the ones whining about being "used" not the men when it comes to "commitment and sex"
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/22 05:43 PM
8

Whats "assholish" about it? Its not different then women changing their minds about having sex with a man despite him taking her out to dinner, etc with that expectation.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/22 05:42 PM
-4

He can decide he is committed until he creampies her and then decides to leave ASAP after since he got bored of her afterwards. The man has the "right to change his mind at any time" like a female regarding sex right?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/22 05:41 PM
5

He might decide he is committed for as long as it takes to nut and then take off. Who defines it any differently? The man can "change his mind at anytime" just like the female has the right to change her mind regarding sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/22 05:40 PM
-3

He can be "committed" for as long as it takes to bang her out and the time it takes for him to leave. Isn't that commitment? The man can change his mind afterwards and find another woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/22 05:39 PM
1

Yes the females should only marry as virgins to their SMV peer at a younger age in the "ideal" scenario. However, most women would never agree to this since the average woman uses her best sexual years banging "Chads" who are out of their league attempting to get commitment from them and end up "pumped and dumped"
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/22 05:38 PM
1

Why can't a female avoid having sex until she is married? There is no "loophole" since any commitment can be for seconds to eternity based soley on either parties discretion.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/22 05:36 PM
1

By "conservative standards", there is no "integrity or honor" for a female having sex without marriage, so that is a nonissue. Also, wheres the "lie"? He might decide that he wants to be "committed" to the female, has sex with her and post-nut he decides its not worth it anymore and bounces. Technically, he was committed to her for a few hours until he nutted and then decided he's not interested anymore.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/22 05:35 PM
4

Whats the offer? A vague commitment that he can change within a moment notice? The man might decide after he nuts that he doesn't feel like staying with the female anymore. Very common actually.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/22 05:33 PM
3

That is correct. So I don't get the concept of the female claiming she was "used for sex since he didn't commit". Yet this is a common refrain from women and white knights.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/22 05:32 PM
-2

He can decide he is committed until he creampies her and then change his mind after "post nut" clarity. That is a form of commitment.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/22 05:31 PM
5

What "verbal" contract? Even if he says he is committed to her, he can change his mind within seconds, mins or hours? He can be "committed" until after is done with having sex with her and then leaves since he decides he isn't interested in her anymore. Isn't that "commitment"?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/22 05:30 PM
4

That is correct. There is no such thing as "commitment" after sex if there is no legal marriage contract. The man can change his mind at anytime. He can decide to bang her for one night and be "committed" to her that night only to find another woman the next day. And this would be perfectly acceptable.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/22 05:25 PM
1

but then she can complain that he "used her for sex" Men "break up" with women all the time after a few sex sessions.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/22 05:23 PM
1

So when he commits, he needs to tell her the length of commitment? Also, what if he decides to commit for one year but then changes his mind a month later and dumps her?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/22 05:19 PM
1

What do you mean by "commit"? He can decide to be committed for a few hours, days or weeks and change his mind and decide to bang other women later.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/22 05:07 PM
1

How would you enforce 3 if the male decides he doesn't want to stay committed? What if he has the intention to be committed when he has sex but then decides to change his mind a few weeks later?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/22 04:16 PM
1

Whats a "relationship"? I could be banging a woman for a few months and decide not to continue any relationship afterwards. I could consider it an "open relationship" etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/22 02:12 PM
1

How about a woman not having sex without marriage? That would "fix" it. Oh wait, that would mean "Chads" wouldn't deal with these women at all then. Ergo, they will continue to use "sex" to lockdown men who are above them in SMV and get burned.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/22 02:10 PM
1

There is no "conservative" culture that permits sex outside of marriage. Ergo, the "onus" is on non commitment if they are having sex before marriage.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/22 02:09 PM
4

Women do this because they are using "sex" to entice "Chad" level men who are out of their league under a monogamous system to "commit". If women didn't do that, they would be forced to pair bond with their equivalent and they don't want to do this.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/22 02:08 PM
1

The woman shouldn't have sex without marriage if commitment is important. Any other arrangement, he is free to leave without consequence.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/22 02:07 PM
3

Id say the women actually looked better in the 1950s then now. Its the mens standard since "roids" that are through the roof.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/22 04:11 PM
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Why wait for something many other men had easily?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/22 11:12 PM
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Men won't wait to have sex with a woman with a high N count but will wait for a low N count female.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/22 11:09 PM
1

Germany isnt USA
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/22 07:07 PM
1

If the ratios are about that of OLD, whats the difference?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/22 02:27 PM
2

Bars have been sausage fests since the 1990s. Its not any better then OLD.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/22 02:23 PM
7

Its the former. Women literally have shut down all "dating options" in person for average men. Clubs/Bars have been sausage fests in the 1990s to only "bang Chads". Most of these "female majority" options are ideas men don't enjoy and women don't want single men hitting on them at. Men don't like yoga or singing classes and would mostly attend it just to find women to "date". Women at these activities (especially in their 20s and 30s) would be against a large number of single men going to these …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/22 02:11 PM
6

This whole conversation is about "men meeting women in person" to "date". Ergo, this is confirming men can't use this options in significant numbers and its a strawman.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/22 02:00 PM
6

Isnt this about finding a woman for single males? Most men arent interested in these fields outside of dating women.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/22 01:55 PM
4

Im speaking about USA (can't speak about UK): 1) Yoga: Maybe a few bisexual (or effiminate men) can attend but if any numbers of men joined with intention to "date" women, they would start banning men ASAP. As a result. its not realistic for men to use for meeting women. 2) The rest of the arguments for "social" situations are basically the same as Yoga. Women will NOT tolerate a decent amount of men that are actively trying to date women at any of these types of events or they will ban them. Th…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/22 01:43 PM
2

You are assuming that "female dominated" groups will allow single males in any numbers. That is a VERY false assumption. If men in any numbers joined these groups, they would be banned. Ergo, these are not good groups to find women to "date" Women have essentially shut off all these groups from men to "date"
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/22 01:25 PM
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They really aren't giving any true examples of "real life" scenarios men can find women in person. Women have essentially shut off all "in life" dating options for the vast majority of men.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/22 01:14 PM
7

Some of the gyms have healthy ratios but it usually 4:1 male to female in the weight areas.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/22 01:12 PM
18

Yoga classes are unfriendly to heterosexual males who are looked upon suspiciously trying to "date" the women. Swimming where? Same as Yoga What? Those are mostly for women only and won't allow men in any numbers. What? There aren't many 20s to 30s women in "walking/hiking" groups.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/22 01:11 PM
5

Yeah seems gym is only place these days for "in person" to be honest. But then its pretty ridiculous to tell men to avoid OLD.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/22 12:42 PM
1

Yeah I agree. She looks 20% or so
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/22 12:26 PM
4

Most men dont have friends anymore.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/22 12:15 PM
3

Nightclubs and Bars are usually 4:1 male to female ratios as well. Where are all these "in person" places to meet women?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/22 12:12 PM
33

100% facts. Where are all these "single" women places to meet? 1) Bars: Sausage fests since the late 1990s 2) Clubs: Dying off, Sausage Fests since late 1990s 3) Professional Events? They are mostly online now especially with COVID. 4) Gym? You can't really go up to random women to socialize at the the gym without risk. So how are men supposed to meet all these attractive single women to date and "socialize"? The internet has made that worse but it was already pretty bad by the late 1990s for me…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/22 12:10 PM
0

100% facts
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/22 11:59 AM
5

That woman looks in good shape. That is hard to believe she is 33-35%.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/22 11:56 AM
3

The chance of lying is far higher. Ergo, statistically it makes sense to believe lying by default and work from there.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/22 05:14 PM
3

Everyone is Einstein on reddit brah
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/22 12:36 PM
1

I agree They are delusional
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/22 08:27 PM
1

Most of FBS are late 20s+ women that can't get HVM to commit. How can they "vet" when they have no options with HVM as it is?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/22 03:30 PM
1

WHat "tricks"? How to get older, fatter, etc and demand more?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/22 03:29 PM
2

Yeah i notice they never ban misandry forums on reddit
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/22 03:28 PM
1

Offering less while demanding more? lol So as they get older, fatter, etc their demands on men go up? Makes sense lol
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/22 03:27 PM
2

100% truth
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/22 03:26 PM
0

TRP doesn't "demand demand" without pushing the male to become "high value"
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/22 03:25 PM
-2

Women offer value by youth and fertility. Its a "give and take"
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/22 03:24 PM
0

HVM will pump and dump all the sloots until their 30s when they "settle down" with a rich equivalent female who is younger. Or recently HVM are staying bachelors like Dicaprio and playing the market since its acceptable now. Men dont need marriage anymore.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/22 03:21 PM
1

Getting banged out by men and getting commitment from HVM are two different things.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/22 03:20 PM
2

FBS posts are basically when I skim the top ones: 1) "Manchild" needs to do his own chores 2) HVM should be happy to get a late 30s women 3) Most men are useless 4) Women should offer nothing to man but man should offer everything Very different then TRP. Totally delusional. But this is why marriage/birth rates are at all time lows.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/22 03:19 PM
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That is why marriage and birth rates are at all time lows. These women are largely delusional.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/22 03:18 PM
0

Low value women are only pump and dump material for high value males. Either they get pump/dumped by HVM or get commitment for equally low value males or stay single forever.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/22 03:17 PM
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FBS has been the female dating strategy for women 45 and under since the 1990s. Its just put online now. Red Pill is the correct counter strategy to this.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/22 03:16 PM
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Thats not the way it works for HVM. Most of these women wont be getting them.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/22 03:15 PM
1

Then why would there be an FBS if this was true with all the whining about lack of good men?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/22 01:17 PM
2

100% facts right here.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/22 12:29 PM
3

Yes but the man is still expected to pay the bills and have the money. Ergo, its not hypocritical in the same manner.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/22 12:21 PM
1

Nothing about bodybuilding has to do with "fitness". Come on brah lol
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/22 12:20 PM
0

Everyone is natty brah lol
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/22 12:19 PM
9

Its worse because women will fuck the Chads and then switch to demanding money/resources out of the "average" guys later in life. Women also lie about being shallow.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/22 11:26 AM
1

then why are birth rates and marriage rates at all time lows if this works so well?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/21 03:31 AM
2

Everyone is a Chad online brah
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/21 11:28 AM
-2

Yeah so I guess men should avoid relationships with women
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/21 06:24 PM
6

Women do this all the time in "relationships". By that logic, who would want to be with a female?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/21 04:08 PM
1

Sugar Dating max
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/21 09:55 PM
1

lmao jabba the hut
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/21 11:20 PM
1

Tom Leykis had it down brah
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/21 11:19 PM
1

Actually the "science" came from Stardusk and Bar Bar mostly. It wasn't much. "Hypergamy" is basically all of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/21 03:20 PM
1

The point is they are offering no new information nor to a bigger audience then 10+ years ago. It seems like a regression from even Tom Leykis days
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/21 02:59 PM
2

Yeah its pretty accurate or not obese in Michigan. Unless you are part of their small circle at a younger age.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/21 02:18 PM
0

TRP forums is a joke that is under restricted by reddit. Furthermore, I am uninterested in chatting with guys called "gaylubeoil" or other frat boy clowns who all try to "out alpha" each other. TRP forums probably banned me a long time ago since I never was impressed by a "gaylubeoil" or some other clown on there. I haven't been there for years it was useless.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/21 01:49 PM
1

Tom Leykis taught all of that 15 years ago.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/21 01:38 PM
1

Selective Service being "gender neutral" is coming from the feminist democrats (Republicans for some reason are fighting it). MRM has nothing to do with it. Dems arent taking orders from MRM lol Show me where Democrats are supporting this due to Marc Angelucci?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/21 01:37 PM
0

Ok but even that is >10+ years old and was basically just him taking statements off sosuave forums.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/21 01:35 PM
0

Yeah does it have to be much deeper then that for a single post on a forum?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/21 01:34 PM
-1

Yes and like I said, Leykis is far more valuable on that front then anyone outside of Kevin Samuels.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/21 01:29 PM
2

He is too liberal but I dont remember him charging for phone calls, soap products, etc. He made his money through ad revenue due to his millions of followers. He might talk for an ad but that was about it. I could also listen to a Leykis show straight for 2 hours unlike Rollo who does a 3 hour youtube video and I have to fast forward 99% of it due to boredom.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/21 01:26 PM
2

Anyone who is truly "valuable" can make money without having to sell scam products in the same way. That is because they have a far larger audience. The problem is most of them dont have big audiences with enough views outside of Kevin Samuels. "Fresh and Fit" seems to get some audience by hiring escorts from around Miami everynight to "chat"
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/21 01:25 PM
1

Newsflash: MRM is an online bitching fest now with "Zoom meetings" as conferences for 300+ a person to attend.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/21 01:23 PM
1

Correct. And most women don't "beta hunt" until their late 20s at the earliest anymore. Even "betas" have to have >6 figures in NYC/Cali and >80k in the MidWest/South incomes.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/21 01:20 PM
1

I resubmitted the same post 3 times since only the last one got allowed. I had to change the format or something for the mods to approve.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/21 01:19 PM
1

Yeah I think he is similar to Leykis but focuses on teaching women their true "value". Not that it will do anything since most women remain delusional. But he is the only person that offers really anything in the TRP and isn't selling BS products.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/21 01:18 PM
1

Leykis is too liberal on other issues. Stardusk was the only "valuable" guy who actually improved knowledge around 2010-2012 or so. I figure he is the one that came up with the term "hypergamy" too from science books. Rollo is useless overall and I can't figure out where he came up with anything that Leykis already said. Roosh was a PUA with Rollo for many years until his recent conversion. I agree if you added up all the current TRP with Kevin Samuels they would be semi Leykis level of the 2000…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/21 01:17 PM
1

This is my second post in 3 days. Where is the 4 times? Also, this is only a "variation" because it confirms there is ZERO need for the current crop of TRP clowns outside of Kevin Samuels.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/21 01:13 PM
1

All the knowledge in the Red Pill was already spoken about in the 2000s by Tom Leykis. We are at least 15+ years out from even that era. TRP content creators keep acting like this is "new" info.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/21 01:10 PM
1

I agree with the Kevin Samuels comment. Kevin would be the CLOSEST thing to Tom Leykis and I find him basically the ONLY valuable person in the TRP space. He has over 1M+ subs too so he has a larger audience.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/21 01:09 PM
1

Yeah so the current crop of TRP are third rate clowns compared to Tom Leykis and offer nothing of value to be honest. Don't see the point of them. They aren't even entertaining or anywhere near as mainstream.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/21 12:57 PM
1

Elam really didnt pioneer anything. He had potential around 2014 when he was all over the liberal media but he fizzled out due to infighting and disorganization. He couldn't get along with other men like Esmay, Atilla, etc and it all collapsed. All his "leaders" now are females like Karen and Honey Badgers who have also seemed to fizzle out.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/21 12:54 PM
1

Yeah but I hear people claiming if it wasn't for "Rollo/Roosh/Roisy" or some other clown group that this info wouldn't be known and that AF/BB and hypergamy were some big find. I guess coining the terms would be the only thing SOMEONE came up with but it was WELL KNOWN all this stuff well before anyone even knew who Rollo was. I also think it was Barbarossa/Stardusk that actually used "scientific" term such as hypergamy and AF/BB first not Rollo.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/21 12:46 PM
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Yeah but adding them all COMBINED doesn't even get to Tom Leykis levels. Tom Leykis had a big show in the 2000s with far more reach/audience then the whole TRP combined. He never sold soap, 1.5k/hr calls, etc. He spoke about all the "red pill truths" well before Rollo showed his face or was even known by anyone. It also shows Rollo never really "invented" anything new since Tom Leykis basically said everything Rollo came up with well before ANYONE knew of a "Rollo" outside of some small fringe g…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/21 12:43 PM
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Men forming a "collective" movement against feminism would be an example. Tom Leykis pointing out the lousy deal men get in the dating market and ways to counter it is another example of "fighting back"
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/21 12:41 PM
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I made a post about Tom Lekyis being more valuable then all the TRP combined. and he was around 10+ years ago with a far bigger audience. Basically, TRP is useless even on that front.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/21 12:33 PM
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MLD, John Anthony, Rich Cooper and even Rollo are basically either fully or semi- PUA scammers. Rollo is basically trying to pretend he can help me "get women more" with his 3 hour diatribes.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/21 12:25 PM
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Guess its pretty much useless then outside of some basic knowledge of female sexual preference. It won't really change anything for the collective male population. In fact, selling "Game" and other BS products will just make it worse.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/21 12:23 PM
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Ok so Elam was pretty ineffective then. Also, he didn't seem to get along with most of his fellow "leaders" and is mostly with female youtubers like Karen and Honey Badgers. Very strange stuff.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/21 12:20 PM
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They call themselves "red pill"
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/21 12:19 PM
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Who? lol
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/21 12:18 PM
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Then its useless to really change anything on a societal level
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/21 12:18 PM
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Tom Leykis
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/21 12:18 PM
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You need leaders and a structure to have any viable movement. Then you are just useless PUA scammers mostly without that. At least Tom Leykis gave good entertainment over the radio. He was far better then any of these scammers and before them.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/21 12:16 PM
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Yeah affirmative action and quotas often do that
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/21 12:08 PM
1

How is the dating market in Michigan? It seems like most women are obese in Michigan, single moms, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/21 11:17 AM
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I never found NYC easy to date. Moving to MidWest with more rural (traditional) women made it somewhat easier but these are rarer women even in the MidWest. NYC was filled with 30+ entitled women demanding 6 figures plus and looks out of men when they werent offering much in general.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/21 11:15 AM
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What do you have in common with women your age?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/21 11:14 AM
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That is correct. You need to be top 3% or so in "looks" when "speed dating" women 25 and under. For women >28 that are closer to "had my fun and settle down phase", then 6 figure incomes, etc can come into play.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/21 11:10 AM
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Being over 6 foot and 6 figures as a male is top 10% pretty easily unless you are obese. Top 30% would be 6 foot, chubby and >60K or so. 100K for a single male is about top 5% in income, 6 foot is about top 15% or so in height. Having both combined puts you in top 10% or so unless obese.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/21 10:53 AM
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Nothing "unhealthy" about it. I dated 25 year old when I was 36. Totally normal.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/21 09:59 PM
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This is very accurate. I don't see all these social events either. I only really see women at the gyms now somewhat.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/21 09:52 PM
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Speed dating is like Tinder level
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/21 09:49 PM
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Great post bro and very accurate.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/21 09:48 PM
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True
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/21 09:40 PM
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They overlap alot. They are all semi PUA now.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/21 09:40 PM
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So explain how Dream Johnson can consistently make conferences while Elam can't? Elam had one in 2014 and then one in 2018 in the USA I think. Now he is "virtual" for 2 years and wants people to pay for a Zoom meeting lol Im sure he is charging 300+ for watching his Zoom meeting.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/21 09:39 PM
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Cool. Good work. Hope you become bigger in the space and replace the scammers.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/21 09:38 PM
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I disagree. White Men are being systemically removed from positions of power in this country. Just look at the "leadership" fortunes of men 50 and under to determine their future.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/21 06:11 PM
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100% truth. Just wish we had better "leaders" It annoys me seeing clowns like "John Anthony lifestyle" banging hookers claiming to be some guru. But I still like how he "roasts" the other scammers. Thats why I sub to his account. His Roasts of the other scammers is pretty on point.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/21 06:09 PM
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Never argued against its validity. Just was wondering why all the "leaders" are scammers
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/21 06:08 PM
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No one really knows you bro. You sound cool but you are pretty much not known. Maybe you'll get bigger and take over. Whats your channel? Its not "mainstream" red pill like Rollo, Cooper, 21 studios, etc
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/21 06:07 PM
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Yeah then we should just call it grifter scammers club using 15+ year old info that can be summed up in one page.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/21 06:05 PM
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Thats all true but men in the past had "in group preference" and "kept women at home" more. Now its women exerting their dominance over men while the men are scattered.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/21 06:05 PM
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How come feminists were so effective then?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/21 06:02 PM
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True Leykis was the OG. I liked Leykis too. He made alot of money but wasn't an annoying scammer like the current crop. Elam might have "started it all" but has been unable to do anything in the real world. Hell, they could barely make two conferences in the last 8 years in the USA. Anthony Dream Johnson by comparison has a conference every year in the USA at a minimum. How are we "better off now"? Men under 45 are probably at their lowest point economically and politically in the whole US histo…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/21 06:01 PM
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Well I guess men will have a bleak future until something dramatic changes
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/21 05:59 PM
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Maybe but men used to have their own "clubs" etc such as Rotary where there was a "good old boys club". That has fallen apart recently but was normal throughout history.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/21 05:56 PM
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No one cares about "mens problems" since men dont stick together. This wasn't always true throughout history as men would have more rights then women.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/21 05:24 PM
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Maybe thats why Iran has shit tier technology?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/21 04:28 PM
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You can play the game it has no "leaders" but there are clear people who claims to run it like Rollo, Cooper, etc who have the biggest audiences on youtube (TRP reddit is shut down and useless now). A voice for men hasn't done shit. Stop it bro. The only thing I see changing in favor of men is some family courts are more favorable to custody. Thats the only "victory" I have ever seen. Men are losing in academia, business, marriage laws, etc. So its basically 98-2 in favor of feminism.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/21 04:26 PM
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I already said the "message" is basically true but the people giving it are grifters/scammers
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/21 04:24 PM
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Feminists got shit done though
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/21 04:24 PM
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Yes that is true that they are useless
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/21 04:23 PM
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Kevin Samuels is actually the only one I like lol I like Anthony Dream Johnson too
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/21 04:23 PM
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They still seem to have allowed modern women to take over grad schools, med schools, business schools, large corporations under 45, etc. Women are totally crushing men 45 and under in almost every field now including business, politics, medicine, etc. Dudes have to fall back on "trades" as their only recourse left due to being ineffective to stop this.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/21 04:22 PM
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Who knows how many suckers are willing to pay for it but it detracts from any "real" movement
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/21 04:21 PM
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Yeah ok. That dude never "spun" plates and he married a 35 year old when he was 30 years old.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/21 04:20 PM
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Yeah but they make sure if the "goals didnt benefit women enough", they keep changing them until women get what they want at the expense of men. TRP/manosphere has been useless countering this. They are just basically scammers that are selling BS products now.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/21 04:17 PM
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Its "scamming" because they are selling useless products that they know doesn't work or "phone calls" rehasing shit that can be learned for free on youtube while pretending its new secret information.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/21 04:16 PM
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I can get all of that in some generic self help book for far less money. Whats the point then?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/21 03:48 PM
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There are grifters but they seem to actually achieve goals for their followers. Feminism has gotten quotas/affirmative action in academia/business, favorable marriage laws, etc. Feminism has been VERY effective for women unlike the manosphere or TRP for men on a practical level.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/21 03:44 PM
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LOL its identical to that
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/21 03:43 PM
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You dont see the "scam" in him charging 20+ dollars for "pheromone soap" or 1.5k/hr phone calls to "do the work"? Rollo I give credit for his work 10+ years ago but has just been a grifter since then with these scammers. Also, Rollo's work was basically just ripping off "so suave" forums
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/21 03:42 PM
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All the leaders are "grifters" though
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/21 03:41 PM
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Rollo cant spin plates. Look at him. He married an older woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/21 03:41 PM
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I already said its accurate. I was just curious to know why all the "leaders" are scam artists. Isnt that strange?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/21 03:40 PM
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Yeah there really isnt much content there that Rollo teaches. He goes on 3+ hour youtube "discourses" with pseudo intellectual gibberish. But it basically breaks down to AF/BB and hypergamy. Both of which I knew by the 1990s well before there was a "red pill". I wouldn't have coined those terms but it was already quite apparent back then for anyone with a brain. The manosphere was supposed to be a counter weight to feminism but has been totally ineffective and useless.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/21 03:40 PM
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Feminism has been able to achieve quotas/affirmative action in both business and academia for women. Feminism has maintained favorable marriage laws for women. TRP/manosphere has only been able to sell soap and 1.5k/hr calls with Rich Cooper. See the difference?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/21 03:38 PM
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Casual dating= any dating without marriage
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/21 10:14 PM
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Casual dating is equivalent to hooking up. "insecure loser"= feminist speak for dude who doesn't want to marry a sloot
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/21 10:08 PM
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You are right about him not marrying her. Good idea.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/21 10:07 PM
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he could date a younger female or just pump/dump her as well
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/21 10:06 PM
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Thats most women these days
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/21 11:15 AM
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Men prefer that to bang not marry
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/21 11:14 AM
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We don't know if this is the only guy she "dated" (hint: dating= hookup unless it was actually going towards marriage. Women try to play semantics about "well he was a boyfriend so its ok that I was a sloot") Regardless, she used her 20s banging basketball players while he "sacrificed" his 20s studying to achieve a physician income. Why should he give his "best earning years" to her when she never gave him her best fertile years? Makes no sense from economic/rational standpoint. He is 100% right…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/21 11:13 AM
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He used his 20s developing his financial acumen and "sacrificed" to become a physician at 31 (in terms of attending income). She wasn't around during his development and sacrifice days. She used her 20s to bang basketball players, etc and now is getting older with lower fertility, high N count banging "Chads", etc. This is a bad deal for him. She is getting the benefits of his sacrifice while he is not getting her best years.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/21 11:11 AM
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Due to his hard work in his 20s, he is now a doctor in his 30s. His financial acumen comes from his "sacrifice" in his 20s. She wasted her 20s on basketball players, etc. He is getting a bad deal in this "relationship". He should just pump and dump her and deal with a younger female when he is looking for something more serious.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/21 11:10 AM
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A female wants the economic value of the male. A male wants the virginity/low sex count, youth and fertility of the female. He is bringing the financials in spades while losing out with this deal on the female who used her best years on "basketball" players. Thats just the reality. He is 100% right.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/21 11:09 AM
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Thats correct but they only do that during the "settling" phase when they get older and care about financials.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/21 11:07 AM
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They don't like "all types" during their early 20s "hoe phase". That is reserved for the bad boys and athletes. The nerdy doctor "type" is when she is older/fatter/got banged out.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/21 01:49 PM
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He shouldn't date an older woman that got banged out. Or actually marry. He should bang her out and then dump her.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/21 01:36 PM
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It makes sense for her if she can pull it off. It does NOT make sense for the financially successful doctor to marry her though.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/21 01:32 PM
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But he would get to bang young women in their prime vs marrying an older woman? Banging "sugar babies" >>>>> marrying late 20s to 30s women who had "their fun"
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/21 01:31 PM
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Why should they marry though?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/21 01:29 PM
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He can easily make an "educated" guess looking at her choices during youth. She chose to waste it banging "hot" guys.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/21 01:28 PM
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Banging younger women doesn't "fix" the problem. He would be looked at as "beta bucks" by an older female such as her regardless. If he is marriage minded, he should look for a 8+ year younger female.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/21 01:24 PM
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True. He should bang her out and have fun on vacations with her. Then dump her for a woman 10+ years younger using his resources to obtain it.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/21 01:23 PM
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Men and women are different in terms of long term strategies. The equivalent would be a woman who remained a virgin and in good shape and the dude is a broke former partying dude that wasted his youth.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/21 01:22 PM
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He can still afford to bang younger sugar babies though. Way better option then 29+ year old PT to "marry" after her CC phase.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/21 01:21 PM
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Well maybe women should've decided to find a "marriage" material man during their peak early 20s rather then when they get banged out by late 20s to 30s.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/21 01:20 PM
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"Boyfriend" isnt really any better then hookup these days. These are short term "boyfriends"
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/21 01:20 PM
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That is correct. She is almost 30. She spent her youth getting rammed by "fun" guys and now wants to settle for a dude that worked 10+ years to become a physician while she was partying and wasting her youth. He is making a very rational decision.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/21 01:18 PM
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She could've easily dated the "nerdy" guy on his decade plus of development but chose the more "fun athlete" at the time. It makes plenty of sense to be concerned about this.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/21 01:16 PM
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Its better for him to avoid her and either not date/marry her. What benefit does he get? He can go for younger sugar babies at that point.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/21 01:15 PM
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Its a different discussion since the man is expected to pay for the female. Are you equal financially?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/21 01:14 PM
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There is nothing "immature". Its a fully rational opinion.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/21 01:09 PM
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"Insecure" men are smart. Why should he give his money to her when she wasn't there during his formative years? She was more interested in banging jocks until she got old and the jocks got poor. Then she shifted strategy to the beta bucks dude who had a good income.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/21 01:09 PM
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The female would have kids regardless of marriage. She is doing that for herself too.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/21 07:04 PM
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What
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/21 06:57 PM
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Watch Kevin Samuels. That is the mentality of these women.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/21 03:53 PM
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They basically demand men accept their baggage and shit with bad attitudes.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/21 03:41 PM
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SHe's used to abusing billy betas. She's not used to billy betas fighting back for their own interests and wants to shame it out of them to get them back on the plantation.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/21 03:30 PM
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"Respect"= having billy beta to divorce, have back her up financially, etc if she cant lock down Chad in her youth. Its upsetting when men "maximize" their own imperative and avoid marriage or commitment to women anymore.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/21 03:23 PM
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"Disdain"= billy beta not marrying or working hard for her anymore. She expects billy beta to be there as the backup option to be divorced, etc whenever she needs him.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/21 03:20 PM
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Nothing disgusting about that post. Its about "maximizing" male's benefit. Why shouldn't men maximize their own benefit when thats all women have been doing for generations now?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/21 03:18 PM
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Shes upset the billy betas are waking up and not willing to sacrifice for used goods women. Billy betas are signing out, stop paying taxes because they have no benefit from society, etc. Now women are going into "shaming language" to get them back on the plantation.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/21 03:16 PM
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She is upset because of the poster who told men to "maximize" their own options and not commit to women since it offers no value. Women have depended on Billy Beta being there as the backup option and now she isn't sure anymore since Billy Beta is waking up to the scam. So of course this is "disdain and abuse" or other shaming language.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/21 03:13 PM
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This is the cry of the female who thought she could get "it all" while banging Chads in her 20s and then wanting billy beta backup in her 30s. Unfortunately for her, Billy Beta has figured out the scam and is "maximizing" his success like women have ruthlessly done for the last generation or two. Men are catching up to the female narcissism and acting accordingly.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/21 03:10 PM
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It still doesn't work after the pill was invented
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/21 11:39 AM
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Monogamous system of marriage is only "ideal" when there isnt no fault divorce and gender roles are in place. Due to feminism, the minimal investment strategy and casual sex strategy is "ideal" for the male despite it being bad for overall society.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/21 11:38 AM
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There is LESS value for a substantial man. He is at far higher RISK
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/21 11:25 AM
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Half of marriages end in divorce with high lawyer costs, hatred, etc where the kids end up with "single parents" or "mixed families". How is that better then out of wedlock?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/21 11:17 AM
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True. Women have no right to get fat after having children.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/21 11:07 AM
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These women prefer marriage to single motherhood due to their own benefit. They get alimony, assets, etc while the other way its just only child support for the male who can get some custody of the child. You are 100% right about not marrying and having kids out of wedlock being the ideal situation for men.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/21 11:03 AM
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100% this
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/21 11:01 AM
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Good looking people have less incentive to being "good partners" because of all their options. When people have more options, they are less "nice" since they don't need to.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/21 12:20 PM
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Men used to cooperate all the time in "men's groups" etc. Men used to have fault divorce, expect women to stay at home cooking, etc in general. Men just weakened and allowed feminism.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/21 11:27 AM
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I agree. Then why did we give women equal voting rights/work rights/etc?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/20 11:34 AM
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Yeah but the SDs are more accurate in overall assessment of costs
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/20 04:02 PM
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They have a sugar site discussion on allowances and PPMs Thats the norm in most cities
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/20 03:59 PM
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LOL you clearly know the terminology Just read the Sugar Dating reddit to see the normal going rate in most cities. They are mostly 300-500 range. You just dont like the numbers being that low for some reason lol
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/20 03:51 PM
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A woman that makes one man wait while having sex with other man on 1st date is scamming the man who is made to wait. This is just sucker stuff for the nice guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/20 03:48 PM
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Yeah thats just facts I know some like to shame a SB as an "escort" to demand more but thats the market rate mostly.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/20 03:46 PM
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most SBs are 400 in most areas
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/20 03:40 PM
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ok so more single people is the future as it is If beta males can only obtain marriage from risking their money through divorce rape, its better for them to remain single
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/20 03:40 PM
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100s of K over 10+ years of marriage is definitely common
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/20 03:27 PM
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ok thats better for beta males since they would realize they were only wanted as a meal ticket to be taken advantage of.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/20 03:27 PM
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Women's only choices sexually would remain single and get pumped/dumped by Chads before they settle down with a higher value female. Beta males wouldn't really need to do much since the females have no choices regardless outside of becoming a catlady that is a pump/dump by Chad when he gets bored until she hits mid to late 40s.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/20 03:26 PM
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Yeah they would get pickier and remain single while getting on more antidepressants and fat into older age with no kids. They would just be a sexual object for Chads who wanted a quick pump and dump before the Chad settled down with a higher value woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/20 03:23 PM
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There are plenty of sugar babies now banging dudes
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/20 03:22 PM
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Father/Brothers allow the husband to beat her once they are married In fact, fathers/brothers will honor kill her if she cheats
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/20 03:22 PM
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Sugar babies are like 400 pay per meet. Most betas could afford it without being married.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/20 03:21 PM
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Yeah so the post wall CCers would just get pumped and dumped into later ages by Chads before the Chads settled down with a higher value woman. Definitely possible. Betas just bang sugar babies at that point too.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/20 03:20 PM
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The woman is forced to marry the male and live under his rules though without any concept of divorce
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/20 03:17 PM
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Yeah so post wall CC riders could take it or stay single
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/20 03:16 PM
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Plenty of sugar babies are down Ever hear of brith control?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/20 03:16 PM
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that is correct but feminists always say they are about equality in public despite it being clearly false.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/20 03:15 PM
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The average beta male loses 100s of K in divorces. So they could afford a sugar baby with that money. There might be lower birth rates until the Sharia law crew took over.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/20 03:15 PM
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You forget sugar babies?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/20 03:14 PM
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Women care mostly about money unless the dude is a massive Chad when she's younger.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/20 03:12 PM
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Whats the worst case scenario for beta males under equal laws? Postwall CC riders avoid marriage? How would that be a loss for betas?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/20 03:11 PM
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That is correct Islamic Sharia or equivalent will end feminism
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/20 03:09 PM
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WHy would betas want to settle with them? Betas could just bang sugar babies and enjoy the decline. Women could become cat ladies and hang out with other women while whining about chads that pumped and dumped them. Its a win win for betas
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/20 03:09 PM
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Beta males would do better in the sense they wouldn't be divorce raped for a postwall dead bedrooms "wife" They could just spend money banging sugar babies instead of losing 100s of K+ in divorces to an older woman
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/20 03:08 PM
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Ok then they would become older cat ladies. Either way, beta males are doing better.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/20 03:07 PM
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Women aren't picky for men with resources, so its the opposite of what you're saying here.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/20 03:06 PM
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So beta males either have the choice to get a postwall woman that will divorce rape him with a dead bedroom or the beta can remain single while banging sugar babies while enjoying the decline? Let them become old cat ladies that dont date or poor single moms for Chad. Beta males would be doing better regardless.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/20 03:06 PM
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If they have less kids, thats fine too. A patriarchal culture would take over faster then and women will be forced to live under a Sharia law situation.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/20 03:03 PM
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They would either become old cat ladies/single moms in poverty or still have to marry beta males without the advantages. That would be their only choices.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/20 03:02 PM
2

women already are far below replacement rates in having children, so at worst, women would remain below replacement level
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/20 03:00 PM
1

Women would remain hypergamous until their 30s where they would want to settle with betas. All that would happen differently is betas wouldnt be divorce raped. Beta males might actually marry more since there was less risk.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/20 02:58 PM
2

Women would still want to have children and still remain hypergamous, Nothing much would happen outside of beta males not being taken advantage of as much.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/20 02:56 PM
1

If men obtained equality, they would do alot better since they would be benefited and women would adjust. Pretty simple
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/20 02:55 PM
3

There would still be sugar babies
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/20 02:54 PM
2

Women would still want to have children, so they would still have to deal with men under these changes.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/20 02:51 PM
6

Women would put out as much considering there would still be sugar babies, etc. The overt transactional nature of female sexuality would just be more honestly displayed at that point. If marriage declined, that would also be a good outcome for men, since current marriage being unequal provides no current value to men.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/20 02:50 PM
1

The white "moderate" female majority should be fine with equality then as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/20 02:49 PM
1

Thats a good outcome considering there are too many single moms on welfare as we speak. One can only hope if they became more discerning.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/20 02:49 PM
3

I dont remember the South's objection taken into account when the civil war started. It was rejected and a war developed. Martin Luther King Jr didn't take into account White people who wanted to keep segregation either but marched against it. Your argument is basically that we need women's approval for men to obtain equality and we shouldn't do it if it upsets women. Ridiculous premise.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/20 02:48 PM
4

What would the economy look like if we freed black slaves? How would white farmers feel in the South? Same analogy
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/20 02:45 PM
2

Why does it matter anyone's "reactions"? Don't we want "equality for equality's sake"? Would you ask how white people would feel if we freed black slaves?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/20 02:44 PM
21

Isn't this supposedly the goal of feminism and "equality"? Why would it matter the reactions to "equality"? Don't we want "equality" for "equality's sake"? Would we ask how white people would respond/feel if we freed the black slaves as a reason against freeing them?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/20 02:42 PM
3

Correct
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/20 02:08 PM
2

I dont think that works and would just piss off a dude for an easier girl
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/20 02:08 PM
96

FDS: Low Value women demanding high value men and thinking by demanding it they become "queens" Its a strange dynamic. No standards are placed on the female to improve to obtain HVM either. Totally different mindset than TRP.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/20 04:45 PM
7

Women still cant compete in STEM or business without quotas and affirmative action
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/20 04:27 PM
1

They need singlehood game since they wont get a HVM besides a pump and dump
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/20 04:21 PM
34

Yeah basically low value women that remain single while whining about being a "queen" and "knowing their worth" for HVM
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/20 04:21 PM
2

Correction: Its low value women that won't improve themselves who demand high value men
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/20 04:19 PM
1

cool story
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/20 04:25 PM
1

They aren't saying anything which wasn't said over 10 years ago by stardusk and bar bar.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/20 04:24 PM
3

cool story bro everyone online are gigachads it seems
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/20 12:28 AM
1

They dont regularly
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/20 12:27 AM
1

Yeah I agree with that
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/20 12:27 AM
1

lol
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/20 03:53 PM
1

I never put that much thought into. Maybe I should get a PHD in feminist theory to learn proper pronouns bro. Sounds important.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/20 03:46 PM
1

Yes that is true
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/20 02:52 PM
1

I agree with this.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/20 02:51 PM
1

Yes but my argument is its the top .1% of males not 20% for casual stranger sex that can have it "regularly"
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/20 02:06 PM
1

LOL feminists are going to be mad regardless of how it is stated
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/20 02:05 PM
1

There are plenty of pseudo Chads on TRP pretending they are banging stranger women with ease at Bars/Clubs/Tinder which is BS.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/20 02:04 PM
1

Yes and the "adonis" is a very rare entity.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/20 02:02 PM
0

Yeah I agree but its mostly social circles and some type of established relationship rather than just picking up random women at bars/clubs/Tinder on a regular basis. Im not even arguing that they can't ever do it ever do it but its not regularly or easy and requires alot of time/effort.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/20 02:01 PM
2

Possibly but those "Chads" are mostly banging them in FWB/"serial monogamy" situations not from random stranger bar/club/Tinder sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/20 02:00 PM
1

Yes that is my argument. Men have to have some type of "relationship" with the female mostly even in a FWB/"serial monogamy" situation. Stranger sex is rare for women. Im not arguing that women aren't sleeping around alot though.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/20 01:59 PM
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They are actually having sex more than the "average" male since they are mostly doing it with the top 20% of men or so. This discussion is about picking up women at bars/clubs/Tinder for just casual sex as strangers.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/20 01:58 PM
1

I am speaking about picking up women at bars/clubs/TInder for fast casual sex compared to "serial monogamy" and FWB with established "friends"
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/20 01:56 PM
1

Im not disagreeing with that
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/20 01:56 PM
1

Women are doing mostly FWBs and "serial monogamy" as "casual" rather than hooking up with strangers at bars or Tinder.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/20 01:32 PM
1

Tinder "experiments" are usually male supermodels (top .1% of looks) not regular 20%.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/20 01:32 PM
2

ok but this doesn't negate the fact that TRP is pushing fantasy stuff with "chads" so easily just going to bars/tinder/etc and banging women. You need to be top .1% in looks to be able to pull that off with any regularity.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/20 01:28 PM
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100% agree
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/20 01:27 PM
1

Possibly why women are more inclined to FWB rather than banging random guys off Tinder/Bar scene due to "safety". Regardless, its a false notion for TRP "chads" with any regularity picking up random women for casual sex easily due to some fake "game" or other BS.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/20 01:27 PM
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I think for casual sex, its more like the 0.5/99.5 rule. Most men will need to do "serial monogamy" or FWB at best as "casual" not pickup at a bar/club/Tinder with any regularity. Serial monogamy is only available to top 20% type men too.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/20 01:25 PM
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lol
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/20 01:24 PM
1

You can even see it among celebrities with large age difference. Society (especially older females) are trying to stop this though.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/20 12:43 PM
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This post is more directed at all the "online Chads" that are pretending they can easily get sex. They claim "sugar dating" is pathetic since they can "bang random women" with ease.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/20 12:42 PM
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Women have plenty of sex in "serial monogamy" type relationships that can last short periods of time (months) or even FWBs. I don't think they are regularly having sex with random men (even good looking ones) at bars/clubs/Tinder without any expectation of relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/20 12:41 PM
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Yeah but some TRPs clowns pretend they can do it with ease due to "game" and other scam BS P.S. I agree with TRP on most subjects but can't take all the fake online "Chads" that try to out "Chad" each other
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/20 12:39 PM
1

Got any links?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/20 12:39 PM
0

I think its biology more than society. Society lets women get away with anything these days and justifies it.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/20 12:39 PM
1

They're not regularly
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/20 12:38 PM
1

They mostly aren't getting it. Even men in the 8 to 9 range cant just go on Tinder or a Bar and have sex with a thin semi attractive female with any regularity.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/20 12:38 PM
1

I think women mostly do "serial monogamy" type sex and FWB not casual banging with dudes they met randomly at a bar/club that often. I am not arguing they are virgin Marys.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/20 12:37 PM
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lol
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/20 12:36 PM
0

I never said they dont
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/20 11:13 PM
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its not that easy to "spin plates" though since there are far more men interested in that than women
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/20 10:44 PM
0

sorry bro we arent all online 18 year old chads like "gay lube oil"
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/20 10:43 PM
1

google ashley madison scandal
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/20 10:39 PM
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Yes but even "FWB" are usually where women are still looking for a relationship or some kind of transactional benefit outside of purely sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/20 10:33 PM
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Women are risking more biologically due to the sperm vs egg debate. Regardless, the concept that women are doing all kinds of casual sex with random men due to just wanting casual sex is mostly false.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/20 10:29 PM
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Yes but the reason for that is that women aren't into casual sex for casual sex sake but more "transactional" in nature compared to men.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/20 10:23 PM
0

muh racism
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/20 10:12 PM
1

good post
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/20 10:11 PM
1

lol wow
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/20 10:10 PM
1

How is this incel? It speaks of casual sex only but not inability for sex in general.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/20 10:09 PM
0

The population is declining among the whites of the Western world.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/20 10:06 PM
1

Correct. This is where the TRP is kindve wrong. I was getting all this false bravado "chad" stuff from TRPers who were looking down on sugar dating, which clearly has a massive advantage for the men unlike casual sex sites. Its hard for them to admit this truth for some reason.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/20 09:54 PM
2

lol no they aren't
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/20 09:48 PM
1

Cool rationalization broette
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/20 09:36 PM
0

Im speaking about Western world Population is declining in West.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/20 09:35 PM
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Women have to compromise mostly since this is almost impossible to get all of these traits in one man. Only 10/10 supermodel females have any chance of achieving all of those.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/20 08:50 PM
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I think as they become more "sexually" advanced, they are affected emotionally by all the short term flings/ONS/etc they have. As a result, they become more "reserved" in attitude towards men as a defense mechanism. Women mostly dont want casual sex with men.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/20 08:48 PM
1

Yes the will need to keep updating their ability in coding languages every year or two. But its even worse than that since they can eventually be replaced by a younger programmer after their salaries become too high. Only dudes who make it into management survive this.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/20 08:40 PM
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The ratios confirm the difficulty of it. There is probably 50 men looking for casual sex for each female. So the female can wait to have sex with only 10/10 men at any point mostly.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/20 08:35 PM
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Google usually starts phasing them out by mid 30s or so Its a high paying but risky field.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/20 08:35 PM
1

That proves that even 10/10 men need to have sex with postwall women to get casual sex regularly.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/20 08:34 PM
1

Google up the marriages with the highest and lower divorce rates. Highest is always when female makes more. Lowest is stay at home mom where man makes the most.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/20 08:33 PM
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Her hypergamous nature will never be satisfied with him. She will force a divorce and play victim to make it seem that she is the hero.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/20 08:31 PM
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Usually a female talks this way to make herself look heroic. The female usually says "Its not that I want a guy who makes more than me due to hypergamy and have no respect for a man who makes less" even though its the fact. She will try to virtue signal by blaming the man for being "insecure". She will then sabotage the relationship behind the scenes by being unbelievable hostile towards the lower paying male and disrespect him until he wants to leave whereby she can say "he couldn't handle that…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/20 08:30 PM
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I don't think that matters. Most women lose respect for men who have less assets/income regardless.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/20 08:27 PM
2

When you say "hot", im speaking about 10/10 level "hot", not a merely good looking guy. The vast vast majority of men won't ever get to this level even if they spend tons of time in the gym. Even 8 to 9 level men aren't securing easy casual sex on Tinder.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/20 08:25 PM
2

Its already happening in USA with Antifa and other extremist movements
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/20 08:24 PM
1

When Ashley Madison was hacked, the ratios were even worse. I suspect Tinder uses "fake bots" like Ashley Madison too, so the ratios could be even worse.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/20 08:23 PM
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Probably but they can be phased out by 40 as well, so they could have the shortest half life. Its never easy nor guaranteed to make 300K+. It can change pretty fast.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/20 08:22 PM
1

I suspect the society itself will have riots and civil unrest when such a large segment of the male population are unable to secure a female due to low status.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/20 08:22 PM
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No they wouldn't do better on Tinder. An 8/10 man wouldn't stand out on Tinder but would easily stand out on SA if he had money. It is FAR harder for an 8/10 to obtain casual sex on Tinder compared to SA.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/20 08:20 PM
2

specialist physicians, top specialist lawyers, MBAs from top schools or programmers can all make that much.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/20 08:19 PM
2

I suspect women will share the few successful men that are left and there will be very little marriage/relationships for lower value men. This will lead to a very unstable society due to a huge segment of disgruntled males that are prone towards radical politics due to having nothing to lose or stake in society.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/20 08:17 PM
1

many of the "older" men arent that much older and are relatively attractive as well. They wouldn't be a 10/10 gigachad but they could have 8+ in looks and would still do better sugar dating if they want casual sex or even relationships with higher quality women.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/20 08:16 PM
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the vast majority of men can't achieve casual sex on a regular basis. This is why Ashley Madison was a sausage fest and Tinder is a sausage fest. Compare that to sugar dating ratios and the answer is obvious.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/20 08:15 PM
1

yeah I guess thats why Rooshi is an older incel now
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/20 08:08 PM
1

lol
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/20 08:05 PM
8

Yeah kind've why most Americans remain broke.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/20 08:03 PM
1

PUA is mostly useless and a scam That is why Roosh is a 40+ year old incel now
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/20 08:03 PM
2

If postwall women can bang hot men, that shows the value of being a "hot" male really isnt that high for women compared to men who are successful with money.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/20 08:02 PM
5

She could've lost respect for him without even realizing it and her attitude towards him has changed making him depressed.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/20 08:01 PM
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You don't know how she treats him when no one is around. She likely has lost respect for him and doesn't treat him with much respect since he is "useless" to her as a provider. This is the HIGHEST risk marriage for divorce for men.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/20 07:58 PM
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I make >300K/year and drive a used honda. I suggest saving money to invest since you never know when your income drops. Also, with enough assets, you can live off them without income.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/20 07:57 PM
2

very few men can ever become that "hot"
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/20 07:55 PM
1

True There is some incel rage against it
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/20 07:53 PM
1

most PUAs try to fake status/income to get women stop it lol
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/20 07:50 PM
2

im speaking from a male's point of view lol
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/20 07:50 PM
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I think women are sexually attracted to status/money too
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/20 07:49 PM
1

older women didnt like it either since they would have to admit their depreciating value
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/20 07:48 PM
1

true
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/20 07:48 PM
5

A young woman's reproductive value will cost men money/status or some other form of benfit. Women have that advantage at a younger age. Men's value comes when they get older with status/money for vast majority of men. There are a few gigachads that are the exception but its rare.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/20 06:14 PM
1

im sure it was profound
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/20 06:12 PM
1

sorry bro
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/20 06:12 PM
1

I know bro, I know.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/20 06:12 PM
2

thats true Most men wont become Chads no matter how much effort. Same as sugar daddy.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/20 05:21 PM
2

correct money makes the man the object to fight over on sugar sites, normal college girls are fighting over dudes with money
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/20 05:11 PM
0

i know bro
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/20 05:11 PM
0

lol thats fake news bro
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/20 05:10 PM
2

fantasy is always a fun online
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/20 05:10 PM
1

cool story my online chad bro
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/20 05:10 PM
1

PUA usually feigns status/income for the man getting a female Dont see that being any different
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/20 05:09 PM
1

truth bro
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/20 04:41 PM
1

yeah im sure that gets one laid consistently bro
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/20 04:36 PM
0

Yeah to stand out as a man based on "looks" is very difficult. PUA and all the other stuff is just scam BS.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/20 04:36 PM
1

online chads make women pay for their coffee while railing them with no chatting bro
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/20 04:19 PM
2

cool story my online chad bro I hear Roosh has some good books since we all know he was a "Chad" too Im impressed by all these chads around here.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/20 04:15 PM
1

Online Chads are alphas bro
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/20 04:14 PM
1

I think thats too generous For successful men who are 8 to 9s, its better to be SD For gigaChads (> 1% in looks), then Tinder is better
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/20 04:13 PM
3

well thats simp stuff
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/20 04:12 PM
2

Might be true but the quality of the females on sugar dating sites are far higher than Tinder/POF types. Far more younger, thinner, attractive women.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/20 03:45 PM
1

keep paying for regular dating bro
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/20 03:41 PM
1

My argument is that for even attractive successful males that could get women on OLD or in real world, that sugar dating is the best. I think the only exceptions if a 10/10 gigachad male
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/20 03:40 PM
1

Dont think its much of a thing in most areas
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/20 03:39 PM
1

I only speak facts brah unlike these "Chads" online that are really just angry poor incels
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/20 03:14 PM
1

A male 8 or even 9 will be able to bang 10/10s with ease in sugar dating but will have to put in significantly more effort on Tinder. Just because a woman finds a man attractive, doesn't mean she will have sex with him readily or even talk to him on general OLD since they are innudated with messages.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/20 03:13 PM
1

Many sugar babies get turned on by the dude when money is involved as well. Plenty of attractive successful men find it easier to just sugar date than Tinder or other BS.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/20 03:01 PM
0

everyone online is "Chad" that pulls women easily The problem with TRP dudes is they play the "strongman" act and try to out "Chad" others online in some fantasy land BS.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/20 02:55 PM
4

100% correct PUA is most just scamming the female into thinking you are higher status/income anyway. That is why women will often file false rape charges against them because they feel scammed when some loser like Roosh fools them into sex due to thinking they are higher status/income when they are really just poor incels. Why not cut out the chase?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/20 02:55 PM
1

"Game" requires many interactions and countless hours of wasted time to get any "sex". It usually requires telling the female BS about your status/money and fooling her into sex by this. Waste of time/effort for successful guys with high incomes who rather just earn more money for that period of time and then hire a Sugar Baby.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/20 02:53 PM
1

Yes women want money mostly (outside of casual sex with maybe the top 1% of men) and men want access to sex mostly,
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/20 02:51 PM
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I think alot of these dudes are trying to play the "strongman" fake alpha. The number of "Chads" who have no money who can consistently pull women for casual sex is a VERY small number (1% or so at best) and the vast majority of men won't ever get there even with "game" or other BS.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/20 02:50 PM
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women might grow to "love" a man they built a long term relationship with kids. However, even these guys still need to remain high value to her. Women don't "love" men in a conventional sense though.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/20 02:49 PM
0

Most sugar babies have to be attracted to the man to have sex with him regardless. Also, better looking SDs will pay far less too. It still helps to be in good shape, etc. Its far cheaper for successful good looking higher value men to sugar date then go on Tinder overall. Only poor super attractive Chad level males (very rare) are better off on Tinder. These guys don't exist on TRP threads either.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/20 02:48 PM
1

Yeah except most attractive thin women in their 20s wont do that
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/20 02:44 PM
2

I dont see the difference between "prostitution" and regular dating to "hookup" to be honest
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/20 02:43 PM
1

I have before That is untrue that most women are banging 5 men a night. They are mostly college students or slightly older looking for one exclusive SD mostly and will take PPM for initial meetups.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/20 02:42 PM
2

These are the same women that the top 1% of "Chad" men get for casual sex too.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/20 02:40 PM
1

most men wont PPM without sex. that is simply false for vast majority of SDs
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/20 02:26 PM
2

women dont love men
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/20 02:26 PM
0

betabucks are simps getting married
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/20 02:25 PM
5

Actually its the simps that are pushing marriage
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/20 02:25 PM
1

this describes average female in USA
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/20 02:25 PM
0

cool story bro
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/20 02:25 PM
1

men pay one way or the other
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/20 02:24 PM
1

Doubt it but everyone online is a "Chad"
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/20 02:24 PM
1

Then tinder wouldn't be 10:1 male to female. Only the top of the top men in "looks" can get casual sex regularly. Something like the top 1%. The vast majority of men of any age will never get their even if they work out and improve themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/20 02:24 PM
0

Thats simply untrue. Most are PPM at the beginning and only after months do they go to allowance at best.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/20 02:23 PM
2

Actually, its older women who are against prostitution for obvious reasons. Younger women are fine with being sugar babies. Some younger beta males are against it too since it takes from their "pool" of females even further despite the fact that sugar babies wouldn't have slept with them regardless.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/20 02:22 PM
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Most relationships are when man has more than the female in marriage. The few marriages with women having more than the man are the LEAST likely to survive as well long term.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/20 02:21 PM
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There is dishonesty in marriage too where women marry beta bucks after they lose their looks. Don't see this being any worse than normal marriage dating with women in their late 20s these days.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/20 02:21 PM
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Most men won't be able to afford sugar dating. It will be only the "chads" and sugar daddies who get sex in the future on a casual basis. Beta bucks will get it in 30s with a postwall female who wants marriage mostly.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/20 02:19 PM
1

cool story bro
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/20 03:21 AM
0

you do for Tinder type dating
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/20 03:20 AM
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100% fact
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/20 03:14 AM
0

muh game How's Roosh doing brah?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/20 03:14 AM
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Im speaking about most big cities and MidWest/South in USA. Never lived in Texas so I can't speak on it.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/20 02:39 AM
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yeah the shredded look is fake anyway since it is artificial
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/20 02:35 AM
0

Game is a scam sold to incels by dudes like Roosh Stop it bro
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/20 01:09 AM
1

Yeah thats why Tinder is a sausage fest though right?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/20 01:09 AM
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Game is a fraud that guys like Roosh sold to incels for cash
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/20 01:08 AM
3

Yet there are 10:1 ratios of female to male on Sugar and 10:1 male to female on Tinder It should be the opposite by your logic.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/20 01:03 AM
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Im saying working out isn't impressive unless its extreme roid look like Zyzz or equivalent.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/20 01:02 AM
1

Dude you will find most are broke 18-21 year old incels playing that "alpha male" game None of them are actual "Chads" but they try to "out alpha" each other online. Its weird shit. It is a weakness of the TRP sub to be honest even if the ideas have some merit.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/20 01:02 AM
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ok well you are looking at women in 48-50 age range or so in cowboy clubs different world bro
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/20 12:15 AM
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Becoming a true chad takes a ton of work on physique with roids for it to really work. Just working on physique a little with "game" wont do much. You act like it isnt very competitive for attractive women in their 20s
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/20 12:09 AM
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True but this is a discussion about the reality of the situation.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/20 12:05 AM
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WHite successful men aren't looking for chubby women. Sugar dating website strong proves that on their own reddit. Game doesn't work bro for average guy. It only works for a guy with money or extreme physique/looks.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/20 12:02 AM
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Actually, on the sugar websites whereby successful men are using money, the "BBW" have a very hard time. Chubby chasers are mostly getting banged on Tinder by "Chads" who aren't able to get thinner women.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/20 12:00 AM
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How old are you?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/20 11:58 PM
6

Women call it quits because they gets he benefits in divorce.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/20 11:56 PM
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"Game" is BS Roosh V used to scam incel dudes with his "bang" books but clearly never got women himself. Now he is a 40+ year old incel living in some third world country pushing some religion BS now. Stop it bro.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/20 11:56 PM
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Im speaking about USA
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/20 11:55 PM
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Possibly
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/20 11:55 PM
1

I said most men can't pick up women easily if they have no money. Thin, attractive women are in demand (especially in their 20s), so they aren't banging random average dudes. You either need to be a real "Chad" which is RARE or a successful male. "Game" and other BS are just fads that don't work. Kind've like fad diets.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/20 11:55 PM
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I mean a true TRP "chad" would make her buy the coffee while telling her he wants to fuck without talking. Thats a true online "Chad" bro
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/20 11:49 PM
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and yet marriage rates are at all time lows and even then at least 50% divorce mostly due to the female.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/20 11:47 PM
2

most men shouldn't marry regardless
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/20 11:47 PM
1

yeah I mean guys like Roosh V did that all the time Funny though he never had evidence but I guess I'll just believe it because you know "game"
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/20 11:46 PM
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lol there is no difference
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/20 11:45 PM
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1) I agree 2) Roids will help you gain muscle especially while in a lean catabolic state 3) Yes but you have to get "club" clothing as well that can be considerable in cost 4) I never see that in the real world but I guess ill take your word for it 5) TRP "Chads" are always badass when I read their sub.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/20 11:45 PM
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Bro you need to just take advice from "gaylubeoil" on TRP He can teach you bro. He is a 20 something dude with a mediocre physique despite being clearly on roids whose girlfriend looks average and not virginal but magically is the biggest "Chad" going on the planet whereby he can get 10/10 supermodels with ease and "game". Im sure he doesn't require sugar dating either.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/20 11:44 PM
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Bro you got to remember, we have all these online "Chads" that bang supermodel 10/10 women by walking up to them and "game". You should check out some dude called "gaylubeoil" or some nonsense on TRP. This clown has some mediocre physique despite taking roids and has an average looking girlfriend who is clearly not a virgin but comes on talking like he is getting 10/10 supermodels with ease and acts "Chad" online. TRP in some ways goes overboard with the fantasy porn "Chads"
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/20 11:39 PM
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cool stories bro
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/20 11:37 PM
1

That is correct
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/20 11:36 PM
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Yes and marriage used to be fault divorce only where women married young as virgins. Those days dont exist anymore.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/20 11:36 PM
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You're a chad that flawless meets 10/10 supermodels in the "real" world by walking up to them, only go to the gym without roids being "lean", etc. I guess us mere mortals can't all be supermen. The "chad peacocking" is what made TRP unbearable. I remember "GayLubeOil" or whatever with a mediocre physique Chad peacocking with some average looking female claiming to be an "uberchad" in the same way until I actually saw his pics and gf on TRP.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/20 11:34 PM
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Yeah but thats not prostitution because "hypergamy" and "status" lol
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/20 11:33 PM
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Bro I know. You are a "chad" that flawlessly gets women like all "redpill Chads" online. Funny how all these "chads" only exist online without any real life videos confirming this. If all of us mere mortals were such natural Chads, I guess we wouldn't need this advice bro. We'd just bang random 10/10 supermodels by showing up.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/20 11:32 PM
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Im not mad at all im recommending men adjust to the current SMP, especially successful men.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/20 11:30 PM
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How many women would marry a man with no money or even less money than her? I rest my case.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/20 11:29 PM
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I know bro. Everyone online is a Chad who bangs women with ease.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/20 11:29 PM
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Very few guys are going to clubs to bang random women on a regular basis without spending a ton of effort on clothing/drinks/time plus often roids/extreme gym time/extreme diet. Most clubs are sausage fest with 10:1 ratios of men to women like Tinder
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/20 11:28 PM
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How is that different than most women of any age group?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/20 11:27 PM
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Sugar babies can't get alimony/half assets. Most sugar relationships often last months not years. Often, it is paid as PPM not monthly.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/20 11:26 PM
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I go to the gym plenty and believe its beneficial I think even low dosage TRT can be good as well. However, if you want to go on a "Tinder" type site to get women based mostly on "physique" and "Chad status", you will need an 8pack roided out physique that is far beyond just working out in a healthy manner. You need to be "lean" but still hold a good amount of mass that is impossible without roids. The body at low body fat naturally breaks down muscle, so holding mass is only possible with roids…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/20 11:24 PM
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Would most women marry men without money?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/20 11:22 PM
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Good discussion about the difference though and pretty accurate
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/20 11:22 PM
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It is already happening with the acceptance of sugar dating in mainstream society. I figure older women will fight it though since it will hurt their marriage prospects. They will often frame it as "rape" and "older icky men abusing young women" to shut it down.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/20 11:19 PM
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Yes it is Sugar Dating is redpill in its truest form
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/20 11:16 PM
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You just contradicted yourself and said "it took alot of time" to make money but now all of a sudden you have no "issue" getting money? lol Also, real "Chads" dont call themelves Chads lol
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/20 11:15 PM
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Many women aren't attracted to their husband and just want him for his beta bucks.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/20 11:13 PM
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Yeah marriage is where the man has to put his assets/future income on the line for an aging older woman who might not even sleep with him Sugar Dating is where a man can get countless younger females that are far hotter for far less money than marriage for the successful male
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/20 11:13 PM
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Yes it is but not to get that 6 pack body that stands out from the crowd. A random thin guy isn't getting pussy from his looks. To get pussy from looks, you'd need that 8 pack look that mostly requires roids/extreme diet/gym time. "Normal" lean mass doesn't cut it with women. Too many dudes taking roids these days that a regular healthy good physique isn't that impressive anymore. Tinder has countless clowns with decent physiques that aren't getting laid. Chads need to be "tough" often taking ri…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/20 11:11 PM
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All men pay for sex in one form or another
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/20 11:08 PM
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and married men are slaves to an aging wife that they have to pay for life wonder which is more appealing lol
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/20 11:06 PM
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SBs are often PPM too However, you would be banging college aged women not regular whores
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/20 11:04 PM
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The Chad is often using time doing unproductive and often harmful stuff. Taking roids, taking risks, getting into fights, wasting time at bars/clubs, etc Being a sugar daddy is often just a side effect of living a successful lifestyle for a successful male in general
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/20 11:03 PM
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you made that comment first as I recall
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/20 11:02 PM
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Women often have sex with men because they get drunk and cry "rape" afterwards in casual sex situations so im not fully confident they are wanting to bang so much. Also, if women wanted to "bang" young "Chads" to much, there wouldn't be so many men to female ratios on Tinder vs Sugar Dating
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/20 11:01 PM
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1) Brad Pitt body at 6% bodyfat is NOT easy to achieve. That takes countless hours of dieting and likely roids to keep on any mass at such low BF. 2) Thats false. Most hollywood dudes are doing cycles. You dont need to be Arnold to take roids. 3) Sugar Daddies dont have to peacock with clothing though in the same fashion since the money is already there. They can if they want but not required unlike vanilla men. 4) You are spending in yourself to bang women in often unhealthy ways such as taking…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/20 11:00 PM
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Id argue all relationships with women is "sex work" in 2020
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/20 10:57 PM
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Plenty of attractive men still find it far easier to get casual sex with less drama and hot women using money than spending time on Tinder/bars/clubs Money allows them to stand out far more
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/20 10:57 PM
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You cant be bullied and used. That is correct. However, that is true in marriage or any interaction with women in general
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/20 10:56 PM
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Whats the difference between these ladies and regular college girls getting banged out at parties? Its not like any of them are virgins
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/20 10:55 PM
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Correct you get far hotter women for far less drama/effort with sugar dating
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/20 10:54 PM
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same as marriage
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/20 10:51 PM
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Correct. Any form of dating is prostitution including "Chad" type dating Chads need to: Spend tons of time in gym Often take roids that can be hard on health and expensive plus food Clothing Many hours at bars/clubs trying to be "cool" to pick up women while often spending money on drinks for them Spend time being a "tough guy" with risky behavior that isnt conducive towards success later in life
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/20 10:49 PM
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lol you can do that too
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/20 10:46 PM
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escorts sleep with many men per night
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/20 10:45 PM
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You can do both. When younger, spend time in the gym while also working to be successful. They arent mutually exclusive. Being a "chad" and "banging tons of women" at a younger age takes ALOT of time/effort regardless.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/20 10:45 PM
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many go to big well known universities like NYU, Columbia, University of Chicago, etc
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/20 10:44 PM
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ok so? by your logic, any guy dating a female 18 and older is getting sloppy seconds to 100s even "chads"
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/20 10:42 PM
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Sex workers are often nasty and sleeps with many men per night
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/20 10:41 PM
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Marriage is basically the financial part of prostitution with a depreciating asset and no promise of sex. Sugar dating seems far better and cheaper in comparison
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/20 10:41 PM
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Plenty of women are turned on by attractive dudes with money. You can still be attractive being a sugar daddy lol
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/20 10:40 PM
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Being a "chad" is very expensive in terms of time and often money: 1) Spend countless hours in gym 2) Usually take steroids to stand out since just working out is common now 3) Spend on clothing 4) Spend on bars/clubs 5) Spend tons of time getting a "social circle" to look "cool"
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/20 10:39 PM
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They are mostly college students and slightly older. Not "pros" Most marriages have the man with more money
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/20 10:37 PM
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Marriage= men has to pay female alimony/half his assets for a female who is aging. Sugar Dating= men pays PPM until he gets bored and gets another young female I see the later option being far better for most successful men.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/20 10:35 PM
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Sugar Daddies often go straight to the hotel with female after a few drinks or so They only wine and dine if they find it enjoyable "Chad" has to spend countless hours in gym (often having to pay for steroids/food), clothing, bars, clubs and hour upon hour getting "social game". It costs alot of money and time to become "Chad"
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/20 10:34 PM
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Most women expect money out of men in one form or other
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/20 10:33 PM
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What do you call women who feel entitled to men's money in general?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/20 10:33 PM
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Sugar Baby
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/20 10:32 PM
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I think its pretty affordable for a man who makes 6 figures
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/20 10:32 PM
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Men always have to pay. "Chads" have to spend alot of time going to gym, clothing, clubs, dinner and hours upon hours of trying to be "cool"
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/20 10:31 PM
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so anyone having sex with women above 16 are getting sloppy seconds by that logic I guess men who have sex 18+ are always getting sloppy seconds to 100s regardless of being a "chad" or sugar daddy
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/20 10:31 PM
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For men making good money, the PPM payments are a small pittance of their assets/income. I am not arguing that they shouldn't be salty either.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/20 10:29 PM
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yeah I dont see why it matters if the 60 year old guy is paying for sex at a very small fraction of his networth/income compared to the 20 year old chad who "gets it for free" but usually has to spend all kinds of money going out to bars/dating/clubs/clothing, etc to bang ​ they are both getting the same thing in the end
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/20 10:28 PM
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I see marriage as being more expensive form of prostitution that forces a successful man to be monogamous with alot of risk Sugar dating seems far better by comparison
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/20 10:27 PM
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im getting downvoted too if that makes you feel better in some of the comment sections
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/20 10:26 PM
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far more work and time wasting at best
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/20 10:25 PM
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There's something called PPM= pay per meet.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/20 10:25 PM
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marriage is prostitution but more expensive
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/20 10:25 PM
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yet chad is "banging" the sloppy seconds of the older sugar dude lol
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/20 10:25 PM
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I didn't downvote you champ lol
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/20 10:24 PM
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there is no direct agreement. The expectation is there though.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/20 10:24 PM
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cool story bro
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/20 10:23 PM
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chad has to waste alot more time on her usually and often has to wine/dine too
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/20 10:23 PM
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there is an expectation of sex by men who are buying women dinners and having relationships with them
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/20 10:23 PM
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sounds like a normal relationship
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/20 10:22 PM
3

so is banging dudes at parties, banging guys who take them on vacations, etc
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/20 10:22 PM
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Yes but far less effort for a successful male from a time standpoint. There is validation in being able to bang younger women due to your financial success too
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/20 10:21 PM
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sorry brah writing fast due to bunch of messages
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/20 10:21 PM
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they get dick from the older guy too lol chad is having to share her with the older dude
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/20 10:20 PM
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But men paying for women in any context can be argued as prostitution.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/20 10:19 PM
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Yet certain colleges like NYU were estimated to have 20% of the undergrad women on it. "Chads" on tinder have far less options when you look at the quality of women on SA vs Tinder
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/20 10:19 PM
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You can argue all relationships with women cost money and are prostitution
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/20 10:18 PM
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Prostitution: women who are street hookers and bang tons of men Sugar Babies: average younger females in college mostly and right after
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/20 10:16 PM
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Because the ratio in Tinder is far worse for men. Not that easy to do on vanilla dating sites.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/20 10:15 PM
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not at all since its in a "relationship" and not a clear quid pro quo
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/20 10:15 PM
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Spending money
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/20 10:14 PM
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Yes but these are average college girls not prostitutes
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/20 10:14 PM
1

downsides of which?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/20 10:12 PM
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Testosterone should be fully legalized for IM usage. It is total BS
/r/MensRights17/08/20 08:42 PM
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Feminist mod said so and simp male mods allow her to do it
/r/MensRights17/08/20 04:11 PM
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Most minority men are "manosphere" types as well You think most Arabs and Africans are feminists? lol
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/20 03:26 PM
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the men having the most sex are not getting into relationships but running a harem
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/20 03:19 PM
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yup
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/20 03:18 PM
1

Yeah another reason why female sexual liberation largely destroys the society that practices it
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/20 03:17 PM
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She has as false notion about how women are "doing better" yet fails to mention their constant need for affirmative action in academia/business or their large debts with 2/3s of student loans going to women for mostly BS liberal arts degrees.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/20 02:27 PM
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I think feminist organizations play a big role
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/20 02:13 PM
1

I just posted this in PPD and it was number 1 hot trending but then got held by the moderator (female) after 1 hour due to "being off topic"
/r/MensRights17/08/20 02:10 PM
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yes studies are showing BMI overestimates obesity for men and underestimates it for women That is correct
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/20 02:07 PM
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Partially true but it is still about men being forced to be attracted to obese women.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/20 02:06 PM
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Also women still require "affirmative action" for admission into academia/business, so they aren't "doing better" without institutional bias.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/20 02:02 PM
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In theory yes In reality, its about men accepting obese women
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/20 02:00 PM
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they are concerned about being attacked by feminist organizations
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/20 01:59 PM
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There are no "average" male A list actors in looks They are all WAY above average
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/20 01:57 PM
1

There are a large segment of males dropping out of the labor market
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/20 01:57 PM
1

I agree
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/20 01:56 PM
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I would agree that men are lowering their standards due to female obesity. THis is logical. Men shouldn't work hard to get an obese woman since most men aren't attracted to it. Why be excellent as a man?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/20 01:56 PM
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Biased towards women when this is calling out feminist double standards? lol
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/20 01:55 PM
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BBW porn is a small niche market
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/20 01:55 PM
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Men are atomized in modern society Men used to have men's organizations that supported other men but feminists did away with them. This isn't inherent to men since for 1000s of years before men used to form organizations for men mentoring and helping other men until recently.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/20 01:54 PM
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Fat positivity has even come in through AMA whereby patient's feel "abused" when you tell them they are overweight. It isn't just about "self esteem" but acceptance of obesity
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/20 01:53 PM
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Of course it is They are demanding male magazines having "plus size" models now Also, why do men get "admonished" for saying they dont want an obese woman when women can say they dont want short men or equivalent openly?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/20 01:52 PM
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Watch the video On mainstream women's TV there is short shaming while equivalent "fat shaming" of women would be ruthlessly condemned.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/20 01:50 PM
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If men are attracted to it, then men should've demanded these changes not women
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/20 01:49 PM
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Hope so
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/20 01:48 PM
0

Yet there aren't "dad bod" actors being given prominent roles outside of comedy
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/20 01:48 PM
1

Its supremacist in the sense that it wants extra privileges for females at the expense of males instead of the false notion of "equality"
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/20 01:48 PM
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Studies show BMI underestimate female obesity while overestimate male obesity due to a larger variance in lean body mass for men compared to women. Any woman even in the higher BMI is due to obesity largely due to fat whereas men in the BMI range of even 30+ can be largely due to muscle.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/20 01:47 PM
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Truth
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/20 01:45 PM
1

Male actors have as much pressure as female for a certain "look"
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/20 01:45 PM
1

Except they have large institutional support
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/20 01:39 PM
1

Standards for men in terms of looks is at all time highs Opposite of the truth
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/20 01:39 PM
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1) Correct 2) Correct and regulate men harshly on it too as a collective 3) Thats false. They have less pressure due to them demanding no standards applied to themselves due to "sexism".
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/20 01:38 PM
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BMI is an inaccurate assessment for men in terms of obesity The female obesity rate is far higher.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/20 01:37 PM
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women would reject it aggressively and too many simp men would not want upset women. Feminists would declare it at as a "hate" movement that was trying to "regulate their sexuality". Feminists have no issue with those types of obvious double standards.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/20 01:36 PM
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lol thats true But once again there is no support group for short men that shames women into dating them.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/20 01:32 PM
1

That is partially true but the issue is gendered in application.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/20 01:32 PM
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That is the plight of most productive beta males these days
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/20 01:31 PM
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That is the only logical outcome. They are riding the CC until their late 20s to 30s whereby their market value declines and they need to "settle" for the betas they rejected when they were younger.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/20 01:30 PM
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I dont see men promoting fat positivity to other men. I also dont see women promoting this "positivity" towards men becoming obese So your argument lacks validity.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/20 01:29 PM
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I hate men?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/20 01:27 PM
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Women care enough to whine when all the models are thin and hot. Same with Victoria Secret. It wasn't men demanding obese women in these magazines.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/20 01:26 PM
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Yes this is probably the best method for the men who aren't able to obtain casual sex easily (most men). There is no value in marriage for men.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/20 01:26 PM
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Yes women mature earlier than men (particularly sexually). However, the variance in male/female virgin ratios is a recent change. Your explanation doesn't sufficiently explain the variance.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/20 01:24 PM
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If that were true, why aren't these "fat acceptance" movements primarily for the benefit of women?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/20 01:22 PM
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That is true and the large reason why such a big segment of the younger male population have fallen out of the labor market. I really can't blame them either since they really don't receive a benefit.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/20 01:21 PM
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Women don't have the equivalent decline in sex partners as men do If that was the case, women should have a similar decline as men in terms of sex partners and virgin rates.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/20 01:17 PM
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Yes but by that logic then the "shaming" should be in the other direction. If men are so accepting of female obesity, there should be no need to regulate them away from "shaming" obese women correct?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/20 01:16 PM
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I dont get how you can have a "debate" if they ban all the main concepts of the RedPill They took the post down and I dont have it available.
/r/MensRights17/08/20 01:05 PM
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It was basically discussing the "wall" for older women that hit their 30s. I was "tone" policed by the mod due to "not arguing in good faith" when speaking about how when women get older/more obese they aren't as valuable in the dating market. Apparently, discussing female value is off limits but discussing men's value is perfectly acceptable.
/r/MensRights17/08/20 12:13 PM
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I was banned for "3 days" from PPD debate due to discussing female obesity not being attractive for the vast majority of men. Female mods appear to cuck the male mod who allows the female mods to aggressively manage male speech in a biased one directional manner. The double standard of men demanding thinner women compared to women openly asking for taller men is a disgrace. Yet here we are in 2020 whereby men have allowed women to get away with this double standard.
/r/MensRights17/08/20 11:19 AM
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How come you aren't keeping all the drug dealers, Tyrones, etc from banging her as well? Just older successful men such as physicians and lawyers? Seems like these older women are telling women to avoid responsible/successful older men due to worry for "abuse or manipulation" but amazingly never worry about her getting banged out by the local drug dealer. Maybe its really not morality that is guiding this "concern" but just self interest lol
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/20 11:23 AM
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Older men that have a ton of debt arent going to be selected by either older or younger women
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/20 11:22 AM
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Youth correlate with fertility pretty well
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/20 11:21 AM
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1) Yeah no women watch Oprah or read female magazines 2) Your second post is just emotional whining that doesn't require more of a response since its just shaming language.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/20 11:21 AM
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Rather have her dating a 40 year old physician than 21 year old drug dealer. Since when did women listen to their parents choices anyway? lol
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/20 11:20 AM
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Women who are "pump and dumped" are usually targeting men outside of their SMV for relationships. Women could easily avoid this by going for a nice beta male.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/20 11:19 AM
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So 21 year old females are equivalent to "fuck dolls". Wow you have a low opinion of 21 year old female intelligence. Also, if that is true, then older women have nothing to worry about, hence the lack of need for constant whining articles right?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/20 11:17 AM
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Yet there is a consisent theme and by a certain demographic It isnt random
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/20 11:16 AM
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Guess then women shouldnt be allowed to vote until 35
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/20 11:15 AM
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Most feminist women are sociopaths that look at men in transactional terms. So I find that amusing coming from you lol
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/20 11:14 AM
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Yet plenty of feminist older women angrily deny this change while also trying to regulate older male's dating patterns for obvious reasons
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/20 11:14 AM
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I have
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/20 11:13 AM
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Then I guess older women have nothing to worry about right? Why all the whining then?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/20 11:11 AM
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Older women have school debts, credit card debts, etc Very few bring substantial assets for an older established male.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/20 11:11 AM
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So younger women aren't "intelligent" compared to older women? I beg to differ lol
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/20 11:10 AM
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Plenty of men who are interested in a family want a fertile woman. Men who just want to "bang" should just order a younger sugar baby. There are plenty of younger women selling pussy for cheap on seeking arrangement. That isn't even that valuable.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/20 11:09 AM
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Older men with debt arent the men older women are interested in
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/20 11:08 AM
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lol ok
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/20 11:08 AM
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Most of these women whining in feminist articles are marginally literate or educated. Im sure an early 20s female can easily whine as much. Why do you need a "journalism degree"? Also, there are plenty of 21 y/o females with "journalism" degrees that could write these articles.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/20 11:08 AM
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Actually, female attraction cues are more complex than men. Ergo, its not the same.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/20 11:07 AM
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We'll I'd argue the older female that has mostly debt and lost her looks after getting pumped and dumped is the actually low value person rather than the successful established older male. But we can agree to disagree.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/20 11:05 AM
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He would chose a younger female if he was interested in having a family as well since she has more years of fertility. There can be very practical reasons. The power "asymmetry" argument is nonsense as well unless you think women in their 20s have zero agency. If that is the case, then why do they get to vote if they are so easily manipulated? The more logical assumption is the man offers resources/status and is still attractive enough while the younger female is offering more years of fertility…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/20 11:04 AM
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Yes older women are mostly low value. I agree.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/20 11:01 AM
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I'd call her a rare exception. Likely an obese female who lost weight when she got older.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/20 11:00 AM
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In the real world most "older" women have no appreciable assets. Its the man that is expected to have more assets/income than the female. So there is no "equality" benefit for the male in the vast majority of these cases.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/20 11:00 AM
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35 year old male going for 22 year old female 45 year old male going for mid to late 20s female I wouldn't even mind if guy in 40s went for female in early 20s if he has enough status/wealth to pull it off.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/20 10:59 AM
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1) Yet all the articles in "female" magazines whining about lack of "good men" are from women in late 20s and older. They often are crying about "having their fun" and demanding men "grow up and commit". 2) You seem to be triggered by it though with the emotional and angry responses you are giving. People who don't care aren't as emotionally triggered.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/20 10:58 AM
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Yeah the term might not be great but the concept is very powerful
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/20 10:56 AM
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Also the trade off for a high status male with a younger female is obvious. He should be MORE inclined in having a relationship with her if he is family oriented. Younger female has far more years of fertility. He offers her resources. There is a give and take situation. Older females mostly come into "relationships" with large debts and no assets. The older higher status male mostly gets debt with far less fertility and demands. Why would he want that? Why wouldn't genuine men in their 30s and …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/20 10:55 AM
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What if the higher status male is looking for a younger female that he wants a longer term relationship with? Is that "low value too"?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/20 10:51 AM
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LOL feminists pretending women in their 20s are basically the equivalent of pedophilia and are "concerned" with being "groomed". If women in their 20s are so easily "manipulated", then they should be allowed to vote until their 30s right?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/20 10:48 AM
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Or she is trying to prevent the younger female from getting the higher value male she wants?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/20 10:46 AM
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Most older women aren't "partners or teammates". They mostly come with large debts with no assets to the relationships in their 30s while demanding a man with high levels of both. By definition, there is no "partnership" at that level. Why shouldnt the man not want the "fitter" body female that is younger? Unless the older female brings alot of assets/income, what is the benefit to the man?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/20 10:41 AM
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But those older women aren't "equal" in vast majority of cases. They mostly bring debt/low income and demands for money from the established guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/20 10:39 AM
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Explain this: Why are there so many articles from women complaining about "lack of good men" in their late 20s+? Surely if they could attract high value men so easily and there is no "wall", why would they complain? You don't see the equivalent complaining out of early 20s women. Why is it the 29+ year old women that want to regulate men in their 30s/40s from dating women that are 10 years and more younger? If they could easily attract higher value males that are older, they wouldn't need to "re…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/20 10:30 AM
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I think its in response to female's whining about how porn stars and egirls are "abused" by men. They are just pointing out that these women arent really victims but using sex to get easy benefits from lonely men. That analysis is pretty accurate.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/20 10:04 AM
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100% correct assessment. Usually its men who are at middle to lower portion of the SMV who "beta orbit" to get into a romantic relationship with the female. A very high % of females are willing to keep these men around due to it being useful to them since they are good for help with work, money, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/20 09:51 AM
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Yeah its "victim" blaming in the sense I drive around the ghetto with a fancy Rolex watch and get robbed. Should I get robbed? Of course not. Was a moron for doing that? Absolutely.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/20 09:00 PM
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She instigated it in the sense she could've avoided the issue if she never allowed him to do all that stuff Women often play victim when it goes bad and their simp goes nuts
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/20 08:03 PM
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yeah thats even worse if explicit like that
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/20 08:01 PM
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Yeah I mean simping is a pathetic mating strategy but the risk for the female is getting the simp upset and him going crazy. Its basically playing with fire as well. Then female acts surprised when her simp goes off the rails like she didnt instigate it lol
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/20 07:44 PM
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ok well then its not as bad
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/20 07:33 PM
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Yes you enjoy the labor/money they give you without reciprocity while leading him on since he is a weak simp too afraid to ask you out. that is why simping is bad for the man and he often gets upset.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/20 07:32 PM
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ok
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/20 07:31 PM
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If you are telling the orbiter that you have no sexual or relationship interest from them and are not using them for work/resources, then its not really an issue. That isn't the case for most of these relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/20 07:30 PM
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I agree Beta Orbiters shouldn't orbit.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/20 07:29 PM
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I don't even know how to answer this lol Single moms often become gold diggers to take care of their children. If women stopped banging broke losers, they probably wouldn't be single moms. When will that happen? Women from 18-24 love to have sex with druggies, low lives and "fun" guys.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/20 07:28 PM
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Women are very good at social interaction and humans Far better than men actually
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/20 07:10 PM
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You "reject" him by not letting him do all that work or giving money. Have some Mexican move your stuff, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/20 07:09 PM
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I dont even think the female is that overt with it. She just is kindve flirty with the male friend but doesn't say it straight out that "then we can date". She leaves it open ended.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/20 07:07 PM
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A woman who sees a guy doing FAR more for her than his own male friends has to be somewhat aware that he is attracted to her. Doesn't take a genius.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/20 07:07 PM
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I think the women often lied to themself as well. I think a man who has sex with a woman while leading her on for a relationship is equivalent to the female who leads on the male orbiter. I wouldn't call the man a parasite as much as manipulator since he isn't getting material benefits but pussy. Both are equally as guilty. The difference is the society looks down on the Chad players who "play with a woman's heart" while pretends the orbiter is at fault as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/20 07:06 PM
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I never said "all". I said the difference between true "platonic" male friends and guys who are looking for a relationship or sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/20 06:39 PM
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Most of them are orbiter relationships. The woman feigns that she doesn't "know" to not look like a parasite that is taking advantage of some dude she is simping with no benefit back. This gives her "plausible deniability" where she can look like the good person and act "shocked" when the dude finally gets the balls to ask her out on a real date.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/20 06:38 PM
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True "platonic" friendships are give/take situations where one party doesnt do far more than the other party for each other. Platonic friends also dont do the moving, fixing, loan giving, etc without any reciprocal benefits.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/20 06:37 PM
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It happens all the time. Female "friend" will ask for money, moving help, fixing help, etc that goes WAY above any normal friendship. It is also way in excess of anything she does for her "male friend".
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/20 06:36 PM
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I think most "friendzone" guys who became "angry" are the ones who have been led on for some time by doing all kinds of favors for the female. He feels robbed since he wanted some level of reciprocity for all the "favors" he did for the female.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/20 06:35 PM
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Correct I explained the difference in the previous post.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/20 06:34 PM
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The issue is the female largely "uses" the male "friend" to do all kinds of chores for her, sometimes for loans in money, etc while he gets nothing in return. Essentially, she uses him as a parasite while leading him on. Don't tell me she is so oblivious that she thinks the guy is going WAY above any of her female friends just because of some platonic relationship. The simple solution for the female is to avoid getting "favors" or "help" from their male "friends" if it is in excess of their fema…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/20 06:33 PM
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It doesn't present as similar to other girlfriends. The male beta orbiter does FAR more for his female "friend" than her other female friends would do for her. I think as a result of this, the male gets very upset for being "used" since he had done all that stuff for her. This part is being ignored.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/20 06:29 PM
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The male finally makes the move after enough time of simping thinking it will get him a girlfriend.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/20 06:24 PM
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Ok but that sounds like a true platonic friend then. This post is about male "friends" who want more and female "friends" pretending they didnt notice it.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/20 06:23 PM
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Women know what is going on. They just feign "ignorant" after the guy finally gets up the balls to hit on them and declare "but but but we're friends". The beta male is led on to do many tasks for her that he would never do for another male friend before that point. The female knows better since she would never ask her other female friend's for equivalent help since she would know they wouldn't offer it.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/20 06:22 PM
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The way to differentiate a true "platonic" friend from one that wants sex includes: Does the guy do far more for you than he would do for equivalent male friends? Does he help moving, fixing stuff, etc? Does the man spend far more money on you than equivalent male friend? Male "friend" does far more for the female than vice versa. I think women know the answer to this issue but still want the benefits anyway. Their "anger" is fake since they know the guy is doing far more for them than they woul…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/20 06:10 PM
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Ok and?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/20 05:12 PM
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Why
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/20 05:12 PM
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True
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/20 05:12 PM
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cool story bro
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/20 10:16 PM
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lol
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/20 09:06 PM
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They do it and play games with stats due to female's obvious decline in fertility are far greater than men's. They hate simple biology when they perceive it to benefit men as they age.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/20 09:05 PM
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LOL old women are usually upset.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/20 09:04 PM
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I notice you have given no answers and have a poor understanding of stats. That time article only mentions something about "mutations" without mentioning how many alleles are affected. % matters and they continue to avoid the answer since the numbers are very low.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/20 09:04 PM
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Questions: 1) How long is "4.5X as long to conceive"? Does that mean an extra month? LOL 2) 3X a very low number remains a very low number. Stats 101. What is the ABSOLUTE risk of a man who is 45 that has kids with a 25 year old female producing offspring with "bipolar, autism, etc" compared to a 25 year old male with a 25 year old female? That is the only real numbers that matter. Once they are analyzed, I am confidence they are extremely low.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/20 07:18 PM
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​ Those "studies" include divorced men as "single" column. Clearly those men are less happy. Divorce should be placed in the marriage column for happiness not single.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/20 07:13 PM
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Actually men's best plan would be "sharia" law and control of females like in "jungle" times. Yet funny how the "nature" argument isnt allowed when it comes to controlling women.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/20 06:50 PM
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Another post confirming marriage is useless for men Bravo
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/20 06:47 PM
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The cons are they are still an unknown entity long term in many cases
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/20 06:28 PM
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Who pays the social welfare?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/20 06:23 PM
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huh?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/20 05:54 PM
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There are alot of things that are considered "mortally" wrong from LGBT to feminism as per the Bible, yet we maximize their freedom. One person's subjective "mortality" shouldnt dictate it.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/20 05:53 PM
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Men don't have highest income/assets until 40s and 50s not late 20s. There is still plenty of "maturing" to do with assets that doesn't always come to fruition.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/20 05:52 PM
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Sweden has a very low birth rate and is being taken over by Islamic culture that doesn't value "female rights". Sweden can only do that because of high taxes and state govt support for these births. Women aren't independent, so they require male taxes to pay for it since they can't get a husband.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/20 05:50 PM
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She is unable to read the actual statistics of the article. It shows a marginal .01% absolute difference in risk for those diseases when correcting for paternal age. Its negligible. The "28%" difference is relative risk not absolute.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/20 05:30 PM
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Then you have nothing to worry about as an older woman since those older men won't be able to get younger females right? No need to limit it.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/20 05:25 PM
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1) Men with those conditions often have kids at older ages. So any difference could be explained by the fact that it takes those men longer to breed due to those condition. Furthermore, the difference is on the order of .01% or so, so its negligible. 2) Correct. Younger women will manage the cost/benefit. 3) They aren't superior to older men when it comes to established success or assets. They are only "potential" but not established at that point.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/20 05:25 PM
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You are only saying this because older women don't try to form relationships with younger males due to resources being lower. Older women will fuck younger boys but don't want relationships since most have no assets. You are just trying to limit the options for higher value older males since older women can't compete with younger females in that space and want to limit competition.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/20 05:22 PM
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Yes but most women only marry men who make as much or more than themselves. Women usually come in with far more debt as well. So there aren't statistically many "older women" who offer value on that front.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/20 05:17 PM
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Then why do women always want men with equal if not more assets to marry if women don't care about money? This is pure nonsense lol
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/20 05:16 PM
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The "28%" higher had an absolute change of .01% difference even for men in their 50s. So its negligible. Furthermore, those studies dont take into account health status of male in 50s, genetic history, etc. Second, there is a confounding variable of "older" females having children with men in their 50s. Men in their 50s are often having kids with women in their mid to late 30s, so the female's genetic variables are part of the issue as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/20 05:15 PM
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Older women are just as "gold digger" as younger females. Older women offer no advantage to the older male on that front.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/20 05:13 PM
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1) Mental defect differences between 45 y/o and 25 y/o olds are approximately .01% difference for "autism spectrum disorder". So that is BS 2) Older men with "baggage" won't be able to get younger females. Its the higher status/income males that can obtain younger females. 3) Older men objectively should go for younger females if they can obtain them due to sufficient status/wealth since they are objectively superior for men who want kids.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/20 05:12 PM
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Actually its not "heavily" linked. Any study that finds "autism" when comparing 45 year old men to 25 year old men in terms of children shows a .01% increase or so. Those studies also ignore the health status of 45 year old, genetic histories, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/20 05:09 PM
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Yes it is the human condition but the higher status/high assets older male offers value to the younger female in obvious ways. The older female usually comes in with minimal income/assets and mostly debt with high N counts. The older higher value male should look to find younger women on average.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/20 05:07 PM
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There is nothing "exploitative" for a younger female to go with an older male since she is likely using her youth in an intelligent manner rather than getting pumped and dumped by younger Chads. Is the Chad who pumps and dumps her not being more "exploitative"? Older high value men should pursue significantly younger females if they are family/marriage oriented due to basic benefits he obtains from the fertility of a younger female. The younger female benefits from access to the wealth of the ol…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/20 05:05 PM
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Most older women are less enjoyable to be around due to baggage issues and are often in high levels of debt from college, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/20 05:01 PM
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Older men have higher resources than younger men for future families. They are already "at the finish" line whereby they are established unlike younger men who are more of an unknown quantity. Sperm quality doesn't decline in any significant degree for men in their 30s and 40s who are healthy and take good care of themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/20 05:00 PM
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Younger women "exploit" older men with their looks just as much as older men "exploit" younger females with money. Its a give and take. Older females just dont like it because higher value older men are often looking for younger females. Its a way to shame older men into spending their resources foolishly on older women.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/20 04:59 PM
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Women would like to marry the chad if he had money and didn't have a ton of other women in his harem. Women need to change preferences when they get older due to needing resources from men far more than when they were younger.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/20 04:53 PM
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Older women are objectively inferior at reproduction and likely have higher N counts with baggage. How are they better for marriage minded males again?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/20 04:51 PM
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cool story bro
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/20 07:14 PM
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Maybe you haven't heard of sugar babies? Simping doens't work bro. Just stop it.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/20 07:12 PM
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talking about USA
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/20 07:11 PM
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Correct assessment
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/20 06:31 PM
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Because women in the bottom of height distribution still demand men in the top 13%
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/20 06:13 PM
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only 12% of men are 6 foot and higher mostly
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/20 06:02 PM
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Yes but it seems to be way more common among females likely due to a weird combination of feminism and tradcon cucking. Delusional females are encouraged in their delusion by the girl power movement among feminists and cuckhold "traditionalists" like Dave Ramsey who never hold women to account. Men are usually knocked into line if they hare delusional expectations pretty fast by reality and even other men.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/20 05:40 PM
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They usually dont to delusional women. High Value men just pump and dump them or ignore them depending on if they are too obese or not.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/20 05:39 PM
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The post was asking about the "high standards" women demand from men. Feel free to make a post about high standards men demand from women in another thread.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/20 05:36 PM
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I agree. Men shouldn't simp at all. Men ESPECIALLY shouldn't simp to these mostly useless women
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/20 05:25 PM
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"High" standards include: 1) Out of shape women demanding men in good shape 2) Broke women demanding men with good income/assets 3) Short women demanding tall men 4) Older women who have slept around saying "Im not into games but want a serious man" demanding some beta male to take care of her now that she is older. 5) Single Moms demanding men take care of their kids financially
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/20 05:21 PM
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Where did I say laid? lol
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/20 08:07 PM
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lol are you a female?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/20 06:27 PM
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LOL I already have someone
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/20 06:23 PM
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Thats the proper manner to handle their equivalent female. Women have ruthlessly given up on their gender roles and are aggressive in dating who gives them benefits. Men need to follow female's lead on dating/relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/20 06:03 PM
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If you watch often enough, there is a large double standard with that. Recent examples: Married Man told to pay for StepChild's college due to "combining money" after female went unemployed. Exact opposite advice was given when wife had more money than husband to pay for stepchild.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/20 04:10 PM
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LOL
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/20 04:09 PM
1

Chris Hogan seems better
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/20 03:55 PM
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when they it wouldnt be as hypocritical
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/20 03:54 PM
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So since its time sensitive context for the Bible, men should also reject their responsibilities.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/20 03:54 PM
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lol so if you dont believe in it, then say that. Don't hypocritically use the Bible to control men then.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/20 03:52 PM
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You must not watch often lol
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/20 03:36 PM
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LOL fortunately im not Catholic Guess Pope can do anything he wants and make law.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/20 03:35 PM
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So there is no statement that divorce is equivalent to adultery? LOL Maybe you havent read psalms or anything in the Hebrew Bible either lol Also, it applies to ALL professions not just church.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/20 03:34 PM
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The bible doesn't teach "man up and marry those sluts" to overcome their adversity lol It teaches holding women accountable for bad behavior.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/20 03:33 PM
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Yes and TRP can fix that Also, marriage is never the answer
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/20 03:04 PM
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I was talking about "young Christian families" made by "young women" with Christian men. Where did I say "get laid"?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/20 03:01 PM
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Lets take the "nice guy" who is 5/10. He should be able to secure a relationship with a 5/10 female but isn't able to until her mid 30s or so. This is because the female is riding the CC for her 20s and early 30s with the 7, 8, 9 guys. She only "settles" on the "nice guy" when she gets older. No one is saying "nice guys" should get women outside of their "league". Its just that they don't get ANY women even looks matched ones until they get older when the female is well past her prime. Not very …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/20 03:00 PM
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If this doesn't apply to your church, then you can ignore this It definitely applies to Dave Ramsey and most churches I see.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/20 02:57 PM
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So basic gender relations as per the NT is no good? ​ Got it
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/20 02:51 PM
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Basic marriage structure is fundamental to Christianity
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/20 02:51 PM
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Yeah its amazing how you missed all of the gendered discussions in ACTS and NT. Amazing how that works for modern day "Christians" ​ Basically ignore everything you dont want
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/20 02:50 PM
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I agree with that
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/20 02:49 PM
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Who said all? Im really speaking about the perspective for males in their 20s-30s and even 40s going into church that have no kids.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/20 02:48 PM
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The book of ACTS specifically states: 1) Wives submit to their husbands 2) Women should have no authority over males in Church or anywhere 3) Divorce is equivalent to adultery You clearly dont read it
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/20 02:34 PM
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LOL feminism gonna feminism Please dont pretend you are Christian bro when you are really a feminist
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/20 02:33 PM
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Do they prey on them or do they tell them what they want to hear? Kind've like Oprah?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/20 02:25 PM
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Thats fine if you reject Christianity. This post is for people who pretend to be Christian but aren't.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/20 02:25 PM
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Wow you haven't read the Bible particularly ACTS lol
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/20 02:24 PM
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Yes the "servant" leader is basically just the male take responsibility for the female without authority. Its totally anti biblical.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/20 02:21 PM
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Actually that is one of the most fundamental issues as per the Bible Gender Relations are largely thus: 1) Husband are head of household 2) Divorce is adultery 3) Women should hold no authority over men Really that simple
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/20 02:20 PM
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Yes that seems to be the norm these days
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/20 02:19 PM
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great answer
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/20 02:18 PM
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Actually, the 1950s was not even as strict as the Bible in terms of gender relations. According to the Bible, women are to hold no authority to men and to submit to men in marriage. They are also not allowed to divorce since it was "adultery" unless it was a MAJOR reason unlike 99.9% of modern divorces. You are just trying to make Christianity into the feminist version that has nothing to do with the Bible.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/20 02:17 PM
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Yet there is no shortage of single moms, 30+ leftover women, etc Seems to me women go to church to find beta males mostly now as a "social" interaction with their "religious leader" telling them to "man up and marry" them.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/20 02:16 PM
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I 100% understand it
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/20 02:15 PM
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I agree that there arent any real Christians mostly. If "no Christian" is a "Christian" anymore, then why do men accept getting preached to by "Christians" telling them to man up?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/20 02:15 PM
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Actually thats false. It also gives information on how to live in marriage and gender relations. You should brush up on the OT/NT
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/20 02:14 PM
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Huh?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/20 02:13 PM
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But its not "ladies" night due to: ​ 1) Churches being mostly women and not men. The exact opposite of "ladies night" 2) Very few women under 30 in church
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/20 02:01 PM
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How does biblical talk about "being one flesh" and the male "listening to the female on all matters" relate to finance?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/20 02:00 PM
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The vast majority of churches. Some fringe "trad" churches exist but they are rare.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/20 01:59 PM
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How many women do you see in the young to mid 20s trying to find a nice beta male to settle down with and have a "large Christian family"? Seems to be only 30+ women that have kids, baggage, etc that need a nice simp to pay their bills.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/20 01:59 PM
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ok? Address the other points
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/20 01:58 PM
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thats false in general then
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/20 01:58 PM
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That wouldn't fix anything. The marriage laws, affirmative action for women in academia/business, etc would still exist to be detrimental for men.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/20 01:51 PM
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Yes but they dont have the desirable women in their 20s. They have the "leftover" women mostly. Also, churches are becoming mostly female not male. Its more like Oprah than "ladies night" with appealing to single moms, obese women, older women, etc and their "feels"
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/20 01:50 PM
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Yes but with the concept of "equality", the man can look at the cost/benefit to him for a relationship and act accordingly. Tradcons are telling men to literally sacrifice themselves to female whims, single moms, debt, etc because you know "Jesus". Basically a slave.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/20 01:35 PM
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Actually thats false. ​ Dave Ramsey is all about "strong independent women" and supports divorced women, single moms, etc. ​ The Bible is clearly opposed to all of those concepts for women.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/20 01:29 PM
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If women aren't to be virgins or submit to male authority, why should men assume marriage responsibilities? If Dave Ramsey was honest, he wouldn't recommend 2020 marriage for men due to women not holding up their part of the "bargain".
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/20 01:18 PM
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They are worse than feminists since they falsify the reality of being "traditional". They give all the tradcon role for makes as per 1950s but feminist roles for women as per 2020. They just put Christianity pseudo terminology to do it in a hypocritical manner.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/20 01:17 PM
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Any religious channels that aren't 2020 feminists for women and 1950s "tradcon" for men are absolved of this complaint.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/20 01:16 PM
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Actually Dave Ramsey is a 2020 feminist for women and 1950s "tradcon" for men.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/20 01:16 PM
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THe NT is very clear on the proper "roles" for females. They are to hold no authority of men and men are the "head" of the household in all practical senses. None of that exists today
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/20 01:15 PM
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Yes they have for the "primary parent role" in terms of: A) Men have no authority but still have financial responsibility B) Welfare for single moms
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/20 01:15 PM
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Thats not how Christianity defines roles as per the NT. Men are supposed to be the HEAD of the household in terms of authority on ALL matters not just some "spiritual" nonsense. Women are also not supposed to be in ANY positions of authority over men as per ACTS. You are giving the feminist version of Christianity that is a post 1960s change.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/20 01:12 PM
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Thats totally incorrect. Dave Ramsey is all about "independent strong women" who don't take orders from their husband. When it comes to the female role, its not different than feminism but with a "Christian" wording.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/20 01:10 PM
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He often tells me to "pay off" the female's debt while saying exact opposite if its the female with the money. He is often telling me to make bad financial decisions when it comes to females due to "manning up, not being a boy, be Christian", etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/20 01:09 PM
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Dave Ramsey will often get off finance topics and become "Christian". Dave Ramsey will tell men to "man up" and take bad financial decisions due to being a good "provider" and "Christian" as well. In fact, even with finance, he will take positions that are detrimental to men due to "being Christian" without admitting the demands for the female under the same pact.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/20 01:08 PM
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Your stats are "household" income which are usually 2.1 people. You need per capita.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/20 12:59 PM
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3% is for specialist physicians, top lawyers/MBA not the 6 figure mark. Also, per capita 6 figure number is only 9% https://finance.yahoo.com/news/more-millennials-have-higher-salaries-than-gen-xers-boomers-185011477.html#:~:text=9%25%20of%20Americans%20earn%20six%2Dfigures Now, most of these people are OLDER. So if you look at men in their 20s-30s making "6 figures", the 3% number is probably pretty close to accurate if not optimistic.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/20 12:59 PM
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lol
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/20 10:27 PM
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Roosh has always been a scammer. I think his PUA stuff failed and he knows it doesn't sell. He tried to go alt right but was dissed too hard as a "Kebob" So he did the religious stuff
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/20 10:09 PM
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Yeah I think it will just be a decline
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/20 10:08 PM
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Yeah good luck fixing marriage laws or anything to make things functional.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/20 08:52 PM
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cool story bro
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/20 08:42 PM
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Why arent they getting married while living together?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/20 08:37 PM
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lol feminism shaming 101
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/20 08:00 PM
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But if you married him at a younger age, then how would my "strategy" be problematic for you?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/20 08:00 PM
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What pain? Im not divorced and never was taken advantage by women in the dating market. Im just aware of the situation.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/20 07:39 PM
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Due to most women being selfish feminists who will attempt to maximize their sexual strategy at the expense of men, men should do the same methods back or they will become victims. Its really that simple.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/20 07:31 PM
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exactly
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/20 07:25 PM
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the men should act as selfishly as the females
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/20 07:24 PM
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He can still bang sugar babies with extra money, so there is no point for him to commit
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/20 06:41 PM
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huh
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/20 06:40 PM
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Then why all the articles "where have the good men gone" coming from? Guess they are all written by MGTOWs?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/20 05:09 PM
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lol cool story bro I always enjoy feminist fiction writing
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/20 05:03 PM
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He's better off fucking sugar babies due to increased income or spinning postwall CC riders Thats all im saying
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/20 04:58 PM
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of course his increased income increases his SMW. The analogy is I don't understand why there are so many post wall CC riders whining about the "lack of good men willing to commit" People will complain
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/20 04:54 PM
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Im talking about all the top TRP content producers on youtube
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/20 04:51 PM
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Like i said, if the beta male when he obtains higher income can't achieve a prime female, he still is better off just "spinning" post wall CC rider plates while dangling the carrot of money to them than any commitment to them.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/20 04:50 PM
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The beta male is better off "spinning plates" of postwall CCs while dangling money as a carrot rather than commitment. If the beta male can't get a prime female, he should just spin post wall "plates'. That is his best option.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/20 04:47 PM
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The beta male is higher SMV than the 30s postwall woman especially if his income has improved.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/20 04:41 PM
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lol ha ha haha Maybe I can learn more from chads named "gay lube oil" bro. Then I'd get tons of pussy and spin plates.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/20 04:40 PM
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There is nothing "hypocritical" about it. The man obtains her during her prime fertility years while she obtains access to his resources during his peak earning years under the former arrangement. So its fair to both parties. The postwall CC wants to give her less fertile/good years for the beta male who is at his peak earning years. That is clearly unfair to the beta male.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/20 04:35 PM
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Am I? I was just watching "21 studios" with some "coach" telling me how he gets all kinds of women and has a book/lecture or some other BS to sell
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/20 04:33 PM
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and men don't like women measuring them on height/wealth/income/status/etc but such is life
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/20 04:32 PM
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She can attempt to shoot out of her league with an alpha but if she isn't high value enough, she will likely become a post wall CC rider. If she can obtain a beta male as a postwall CC rider, then she is fine. However, since alot of beta males dont want to marry a postwall CC rider anymore, this method isn't working out as well for them.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/20 04:30 PM
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and feminists seem to be focused on males despite only being concerned with "women's issues"
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/20 04:28 PM
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A prime man in his 30s would be willing to settle to a early 20s prime female. its the prime man in his 30s not wanting to settle for the post CC post wall 30s woman. Nothing "interesting" about it
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/20 04:26 PM
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Bro, I keep seeing tons of "alphas" at the 21 convention and among Rich Cooper/Donovan Sharpe teaching us mere mortals how to "game" women and "spin plates" by manning up. Unfortunately, I have to pay them 2K per lecture and 1K/hr for coaching. Guess its all worth it though right?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/20 04:20 PM
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cool story bro you must be one of those mythical TRP "alphas" I keep hearing about but never see at 21 convention or any TRP meetings
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/20 04:16 PM
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You have given no reason to avoid that approach Just some feminist shaming language for men to not act in their best interests
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/20 04:14 PM
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GLO is another loser that is low status and fake alpha ​ Stop it bro
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/20 04:11 PM
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I see nothing wrong with this approach. If the female doesn't give you her "best years", then you are under no obligation to her during "your best years". Man in his 30s that is higher status/income/physique should not commit to a female in her 30s that rode the CC when he can run a harem of other similar women.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/20 04:08 PM
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no its pretty accurate for younger generation of women
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/20 04:05 PM
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Yeah basically work 2 jobs. Got it lol
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/20 04:05 PM
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Thats fact bro. You must be one of those incel dudes that believed Cooper's Soap and Lectures would get you laid lol
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/20 04:05 PM
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Yeah except that "research" counts divorced people as "single" So all the people who are depressed and having a bad life due to "divorce" are attributed to the "single" column, skewing it.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/20 03:53 PM
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Ive done it
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/20 03:46 PM
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I have no issues with MGTOW complaining about females in modern world
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/20 03:46 PM
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lol
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/20 03:14 PM
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LOL Tradcon shaming language 101 Marriage sucks dick and is a horrible contract but be a "big boy" and accept the risk. "Man up" bro despite getting nothing for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/20 03:09 PM
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yeah I agree The problem with TRP are all the scammers acting like "do the work" is some magical solution and can easily allow you to "spin plates"
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/20 03:02 PM
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Im not "happy" with current divorce laws or unfairness to men in affirmative action in general.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/20 03:00 PM
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My argument is that the number of nonobese "nice guy" beta males is WELL in excess of nonobese, nonsingle mom,nontatted, non high N count women.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/20 02:50 PM
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The ideal would be marriage under fault divorce. So it does "affect me" since I have to avoid marriage due to bad laws.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/20 02:48 PM
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You have falsified MGTOW and minimized the concept of "no fault" marriage. MGTOW can easily form the same "loving, desired relationship" without a marriage contract. In fact, I'd argue its MORE likely without a marriage contract in 2020 America.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/20 02:47 PM
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"trad" marriage is all about children. LOL I guess all of human civilization is "alt right nazi" then huh?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/20 02:46 PM
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Except this: https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0091743517304711?via%3Dihub Pretty confident its around 10%
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/20 02:45 PM
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and Feminists never stop talking about men. Why should MGTOWs not talk about women?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/20 02:44 PM
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Im MGTOW overall and I'm not a failure. My income is in the top %, got 3 kids with same female who is 11+ years younger, etc. MGTOW is just rational to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/20 02:44 PM
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Yeah thats sad unfortunately.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/20 02:43 PM
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wow you are bad at math lol There are only 330 million Americans. If half are male, there would be around 165M women in USA. Number of women in the 18-40 range would be in the 10s of millions Number of nonobese, nontatted, non single mom women would be at most 10% of that number. There would be literally 40-100M men chasing 1-2M women.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/20 02:42 PM
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https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0091743517304711?via%3Dihub Here another one BMI way underestimates obesity in women compared to men.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/20 02:40 PM
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Not in USA There is a definite shortage of thinner, nontatted, nonsingle moms in the 18-40 female community in USA.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/20 02:40 PM
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What?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/20 02:39 PM
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Why shouldn't men continue to complain about unfairness in marriage laws, affirmative action, etc? It would be stupid not to. Thats how women gained all this power over men in the first place. Bitching about men incessantly gave them a good amount of benefit.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/20 02:39 PM
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Swinger= his wife fucking a ton of other men and him maybe banging a chick or two in return. She still gets him as beta bucks too.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/20 02:36 PM
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MGTOW under an ideal traditional society would be "bad" MGTOW under a gynocentric feminist America 2020 is the only rational choice. Understand the difference?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/20 02:32 PM
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What "fun"? You are trying to downplay the massive govt advantages in place in favor of women in academia, business and divorce laws through a "joke". Feminism 101
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/20 02:31 PM
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https://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0033308 ​ "Our results demonstrate the prevalence of false-negative BMIs, increased misclassifications in women of advancing age, and the reliability of gender-specific revised BMI cutoffs. BMI underestimates obesity prevalence, especially in women with high leptin levels (>30 ng/mL)."
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/20 02:30 PM
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MGTOW accepts the poor proposition of commitment to women legally. See that as intelligent not "failing".
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/20 02:29 PM
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Sounds like feminists lol
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/20 02:28 PM
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Thats a weakness of MGTOW. Men should be MGTOW BEFORE any marriages. Becoming MGTOW after marriage is too reactive and basically too late.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/20 02:27 PM
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Ideal for society: A) No collapse due to poor demographics B) No massive debt developing due to lack of taxpayers C) No being taken over by other cultures that are more traditional
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/20 02:26 PM
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Women are still attempting to get the govt to give them free shit with affirmative action, single mom welfare, etc. Once marriage collapses enough, women will find other ways to attempt to get money from men since the divorce scam is over. Beta males are getting all negative from the current SMP.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/20 02:25 PM
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Yeah sounds about right
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/20 02:23 PM
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Go to any affirmative action govt job, academic job, etc. There you will get your feminist bucks. Or how about taking money in divorce from a man that earned all the money? Thats another great option.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/20 02:12 PM
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Go to any feminist website You have to be kidding lol
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/20 02:11 PM
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MGTOW can have sex with women and even have kids. You are strawmanning MGTOW into some false notion. They just won't sign a legal contract and won't date unless they get benefits from it. MGTOW is basically just men taking the feminist approach as to "whats in it for me" in a relationship to do it. Its very logical and rational response.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/20 02:06 PM
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I really don't even know what the fuck you are arguing since its all over the place lol You went from "more pussy to me" in the first post to a simp specialist physician that is low on the looks scale and married in later posts.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/20 02:05 PM
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Obesity is underestimated in females due to BMI being a poor indicator for females. BMI underestimates female obesity due to muscle mass being far lower. BMI is far higher variable in men since their muscle mass varies far greater amounts.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/20 02:04 PM
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There is a reason "traditional" monogamy was the only functional system for civilization since the beginning of written history. We will learn that again with the "free market" sexual market place shortly. Free Market SMP: A) All time low birth rates B) All time low marriage rates C) All time high single moms on welfare D) Large segment of angry unproductive females demanding govt take care of them and give them quotas. This is worsened when they get older and aren't desirable on SMP. That is wh…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/20 02:03 PM
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Probably a tradcon that doesn't realize marriage laws are no fault and men are being divorce raped over trivial issues or pretending it doesn't exist. Kind've like a Davey Ramsey.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/20 02:00 PM
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SMP isn't much different than any other economics model when commitment is added.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/20 01:58 PM
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Alpha is largely determined by status/income/physique with some genetics for height/facial symmetry. By definition, only a small subset of men can obtain this and its very competitive with constantly shifting "alphas".
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/20 01:57 PM
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The stats show marriage is at all time lows. Single moms are at all time highs. Obese women are at all time highs. Most people are now single rather than married for first time in history. Birth rates are at all time lows. So by definition the number of great relationships are at all time lows despite the BS.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/20 01:55 PM
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It is the "ideal" on a societal level. Obviously, with the free market sexual marketplace, the AF/BBs is the norm now with women attempting to marry higher betas as a consolation prize when they get older. "Alpha" males enjoy fucking alot of different women they won't commit to. Younger women like to fuck alpha males who they assume are on their level and will eventually commit only to find themselves out in the cold. The women become bitter as a result and then look for some beta male when they…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/20 01:53 PM
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Its quarantined because feminists are afraid of the content and need it censored. Thats normal liberal behavior. Ban and censor anything you don't like since you can't argue facts.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/20 01:51 PM
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Its the equivalent of the feminist site, just the opposite. Feminists bitching about men has been going on for decades.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/20 01:50 PM
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Men need to be aware of the SMP to determine the value of commitment or any legal contracts with women to weigh the cost/benefit. No human lives in a bubble that doesn't include the larger culture.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/20 01:39 PM
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Like I said, the number of true "alphas" males is minimal. Specialist physicians that make 300K/yr and up with good physiques are exceedingly rare and hard to achieve. PUA doesn't work for casual sex without a TON of effort/time wasting. Specialist physicians who make 300K/yr and up don't have the time to waste trying to run "game" on some random THOT at a club or other dumb dumb shit I mean if you are loser like Roosh with no job, you can spend many hours trying to "game" women (most likely jus…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/20 01:33 PM
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Many MGTOWs are still attempting to "better themselves". I mean if they can achieve "alpha" status, go for it. Im just saying achieving "alpha" status and maintaining it is VERY hard and most men won't achieve it by definition. Some TRP claptrap from a Rich Cooper or Donovan Sharpe won't change the fact that almost all men they "coach" or "lecture" will never become a true alpha.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/20 01:30 PM
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