alphastarfox13 Archive

Upvotes	Title	Category	Author	Subreddit	Date (UTC)
121	The 80/20 rule is true, one should accept it and move on (CMV)	CMV	alphastarfox13	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/10/21 11:12 AM
24	What's the debate? The 80/20 rule is true and its a cold world out there	CMV	alphastarfox13	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/10/21 04:43 AM

Upvotes	Comment on	Subreddit	Date (UTC)
1	One thing that is never talked about are the unfair social ramifications of a man shooting his shot and not succeeding “Sure”	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/11/21 12:44 PM
6	One thing that is never talked about are the unfair social ramifications of a man shooting his shot and not succeeding So the comment here https://www.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/qxte9s/comment/hlc75xd/?utm_source=reddit&utm_medium=web2x&context=3 basically broke down why its incredibly difficult for men to meet women these days without the use of OLD which has its own major issues Yet you're here somehow victimizing yourself as a woman? What exactly is a losing battle for women? Your comment seems out of place and irrelevant.	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/11/21 05:26 AM
3	One thing that is never talked about are the unfair social ramifications of a man shooting his shot and not succeeding What does that have to do with anything? I swear I've seen dumb on here but you're dumber lol	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/11/21 03:23 AM
4	One thing that is never talked about are the unfair social ramifications of a man shooting his shot and not succeeding Your tag FDS defender is that in jest or are you fr? If you are fr I’m curious the reasons why	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/11/21 02:26 AM
6	One thing that is never talked about are the unfair social ramifications of a man shooting his shot and not succeeding Weird response but okay. I was actually hoping you would elaborate 🤷🏻‍♂️	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/11/21 02:23 AM
5	One thing that is never talked about are the unfair social ramifications of a man shooting his shot and not succeeding Sorry, I’m not understanding the point you’re trying to make	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/11/21 02:22 AM
8	One thing that is never talked about are the unfair social ramifications of a man shooting his shot and not succeeding This is what people always say on here though as a healthier alternative to online dating, meeting through friends/a “warm” approach	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/11/21 02:19 AM
1	One thing that is never talked about are the unfair social ramifications of a man shooting his shot and not succeeding 100% agree, I don’t shoot my shot within intertwining social circles, it gets weird, and that’s an unofficial rule within my social circles as well	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/11/21 02:17 AM
1	How do you feel about knowing that a lot of men will sleep with anything? What	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/11/21 12:53 AM
1	How do you feel about knowing that a lot of men will sleep with anything? I’ve done this when I was taking a break from work and it was fun as fuck, not gonna lie	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/11/21 12:37 AM
62	"Hes hot...but I get the vibe he wasnt born hot, so I'm weirded out by him" Nah you just met a dumb chick /thread	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/11/21 04:27 AM
2	CMV: Men who don’t want promiscuous women shouldn’t be seen as “misogynistic” or “slut shaming”. I wonder if there even is a "one", most people seem to just settle and divorce rates are 50%+. I've been in some older FB groups and its depressing to see people in their 50s and older talking about they never met the one You shouldn't be in love with most women What about meeting in a dating context 100 women and not being in love with any of them	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/11/21 05:13 AM
1	CMV: Men who don’t want promiscuous women shouldn’t be seen as “misogynistic” or “slut shaming”. Oh ok, I thought when you said "I would be able to look past [flaws] if you’d have the same standard/leniency for me." that meant you would be able to look past the flaw of them engaging in casual sex. It's like a no forgiveness policy in this case huh. Not so different from my stance I guess as it relates to women. The only difference between us is you had casual sex with 2 guys, I had it with more then 2 Casual sex is enjoyable, do you disagree? I see both sides because it is something that a …	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/11/21 05:10 AM
2	CMV: Men who don’t want promiscuous women shouldn’t be seen as “misogynistic” or “slut shaming”. Very interesting	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/11/21 04:58 AM
1	CMV: Men who don’t want promiscuous women shouldn’t be seen as “misogynistic” or “slut shaming”. Why would you be fundamentally incompatible with that person though? Let's say they went through a phase and in that phase they didn't get into a relationship because they were emotionally unavailable at the time, they're honest about it and they're not judgmental if you went through the same. They do not carry any STDs and they're ready to emotionally commit and be a good partner because they like you, meaning they're not going to cheat. They admitted they made the mistake of becoming high n du…	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/11/21 04:55 AM
2	CMV: Men who don’t want promiscuous women shouldn’t be seen as “misogynistic” or “slut shaming”. Thanks, that’s good advice I feel like anyone I’m not in love with I’m not compatible with, and most girls I’m not in love with. Realistically marriage/life partner compatibility for me probably comes down to maturity level, patience, empathy, and not being too boring/one dimensional. I’m spoilt, I usually am able to have sex with someone on the first date. If I were to find a low n count woman I like it would be a real change of pace. The other problem is low n count women tend to be too boring…	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/11/21 04:50 AM
1	CMV: Men who don’t want promiscuous women shouldn’t be seen as “misogynistic” or “slut shaming”. There’s no magic cut off, the ideal would be 0 partners before but that’s not the world we live in so ppl settle	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/11/21 04:41 AM
2	CMV: Men who don’t want promiscuous women shouldn’t be seen as “misogynistic” or “slut shaming”. Are they as pure? I dunno, prolly not I respect your opinion, it’s yours to have and interesting point about your friends I’ve always found it easier to be able to attract first, then work out the details later, girls usually accommodate if they like you	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/11/21 04:39 AM
1	CMV: Men who don’t want promiscuous women shouldn’t be seen as “misogynistic” or “slut shaming”. Your experience is fine, but then not sure why you are so defensive/unwilling to understand people have different feelings, especially people in the group you are discussing. I was only disagreeing on the basis of my experience with women in general, but doesn't mean I'm completely dismissing what they're saying as their and your own individual perspective, I believe thats how you two feel and maybe it is more common among low n count women then I thought, I'm surprised since all women I've spok…	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/11/21 04:35 AM
1	CMV: Men who don’t want promiscuous women shouldn’t be seen as “misogynistic” or “slut shaming”. So if you know most women are not going to be low n count do you not think you will have trouble finding one? Would you settle for a high n count woman? of course I think i will have trouble finding one, thats a root of the frustration. I would probably have to settle for a high n count or just be forever a single player or something I dunno, or find a young person in some village which is not something I'm realistically considering. Feelsbadman I mean, theres a whole sub called virgin and most …	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/11/21 04:33 AM
1	CMV: Men who don’t want promiscuous women shouldn’t be seen as “misogynistic” or “slut shaming”. In theory no but I've always operated under the assumption and understanding that women who care about men n counts every girl i've spoken to on the subject has said they don't care	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/11/21 04:30 AM
1	CMV: Men who don’t want promiscuous women shouldn’t be seen as “misogynistic” or “slut shaming”. Where/how was I being judgy and insulting, the age thing?	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/11/21 04:30 AM
2	CMV: Men who don’t want promiscuous women shouldn’t be seen as “misogynistic” or “slut shaming”. I do notice the women I date tend to be not as much into things like reading which I am, and not be able to hold a conversation as well on intellectual topics or whatnot which is funny because I actually value those things. I've dated some women who I think may have had BPD and it made me think could it be because I have narcissistic tendencies? A lot of the girls who are smart or doing well are the ones who got away I go between abundance mentality and scarcity mentality. When I'm in America I …	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/11/21 04:29 AM
2	CMV: Men who don’t want promiscuous women shouldn’t be seen as “misogynistic” or “slut shaming”. Thanks. Having a partner is one thing, I don't know if I'll ever be in love again. Wish I never knew that feeling, ignorance is bliss ya know. I think real romantic love is extremely rare. I had no idea you're a girl, your avatar threw me off lol	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/11/21 04:24 AM
1	CMV: Men who don’t want promiscuous women shouldn’t be seen as “misogynistic” or “slut shaming”. But if I was high n and said I had flaws so made mistakes, and didn't hold the same standard for you, even though you're low n count you would let that pass since I didn't hold the same standard for you?	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/11/21 04:22 AM
1	CMV: Men who don’t want promiscuous women shouldn’t be seen as “misogynistic” or “slut shaming”. One minute you say its society, then biology. No this doesnt make sense why would a woman want a high n count men biologically speaking? Because evolutionary speaking he would have more children to look after by different women, doesnt make sense. I'm saying its both, society now and biology historically. Why do 80% of women go for top 20% of men these days? Why in the past was I able to openly date 5 women at once and be transparent with them about it and they were okay with it? The biological …	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/11/21 04:21 AM
1	CMV: Men who don’t want promiscuous women shouldn’t be seen as “misogynistic” or “slut shaming”. No this just sounds like you are making excuses. Okay, but just being real You've literally got two low n count (well im a virgin im not sure about the other user) women telling you actually it is important but you seem to want to ignore this To clarify are you a woman? I'm disagreeing only because it hasn't been my experience IRL	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/11/21 04:13 AM
1	CMV: Men who don’t want promiscuous women shouldn’t be seen as “misogynistic” or “slut shaming”. But you're low n count though? Or is the thing with you is just really about enforcing equality?	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/11/21 04:11 AM
2	CMV: Men who don’t want promiscuous women shouldn’t be seen as “misogynistic” or “slut shaming”. Nah I strongly disagree, everyone can have their own preferences, whether the other party accepts it is their choice. And everyone brings different things to the table, both sides don't always need to be equally matched in skills in a particular area in order to not show a "lack of character" lol, thats a twisted way of thinking so because I'm not a good cook I shouldn't have the desire to have a partner who can cook well? Does that really make sense to you? Lol, that seems like theory taken to …	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/11/21 04:10 AM
1	CMV: Men who don’t want promiscuous women shouldn’t be seen as “misogynistic” or “slut shaming”. I don't think it matters since most women are not going to have a low n count so if as a man you hold yourself to this standard its going to be pretty miserable.	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/11/21 04:07 AM
1	CMV: Men who don’t want promiscuous women shouldn’t be seen as “misogynistic” or “slut shaming”. I don't remember using that term, maybe I did, but in general I use it as just an objective term for someone who is promiscuous not as an insult	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/11/21 04:06 AM
2	CMV: Men who don’t want promiscuous women shouldn’t be seen as “misogynistic” or “slut shaming”. There have been some commonalities, you think its because I'm attracted to those types? I wondered if it was because they were attracted to me	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/11/21 04:06 AM
1	CMV: Men who don’t want promiscuous women shouldn’t be seen as “misogynistic” or “slut shaming”. Let me clarify, its not necessarily expect, but prefer. I prefer a woman who can cook well. Just like how a woman might prefer her boyfriend be a certain height or be financially stable or whatever. Its like by your logic people who are 6s should never attempt to date outside of their realm or people who are fat should never attempt to date anyone who is slim.	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/11/21 04:00 AM
1	CMV: Men who don’t want promiscuous women shouldn’t be seen as “misogynistic” or “slut shaming”. I see. Well I appreciate your perspective it’s the first I’ve heard of someone saying that, usually women are accepting of my flaws	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/11/21 03:58 AM
2	CMV: Men who don’t want promiscuous women shouldn’t be seen as “misogynistic” or “slut shaming”. In my experience the low n count women haven’t cared. It’s not as rare to meet them outside of places like America Thanks for well wishes it’s not that I’m sad I just see the reality of the situation and the situation is sad. What can you do. It is what it is I guess.	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/11/21 03:39 AM
2	CMV: Men who don’t want promiscuous women shouldn’t be seen as “misogynistic” or “slut shaming”. I dunno, where they at? Lol	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/11/21 03:36 AM
0	CMV: Men who don’t want promiscuous women shouldn’t be seen as “misogynistic” or “slut shaming”. To clarify, I’ll have sex with them casually, it doesn’t mean I don’t respect them, they are who they are I have no judgement towards it, they’re just not the type I would marry	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/11/21 03:35 AM
2	CMV: Men who don’t want promiscuous women shouldn’t be seen as “misogynistic” or “slut shaming”. I feel like women don’t care about men n count, I’ve never had any even ask or be curious about it There are hardly any low n count adult women available in the west anyways, and the chances I would fall in love even slimmer As someone who has fallen in love before I know the difference between love and like, and most people are in like even if they call it love. Most people are lucky if they experience genuine romantic love once in their life, feel like the odds of it happening again with a ver…	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/11/21 03:30 AM
14	CMV: Men who don’t want promiscuous women shouldn’t be seen as “misogynistic” or “slut shaming”. People say that but the chances of it actually happening organically at some kind of volunteering or event seem pretty low these days tbh	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/11/21 03:27 AM
0	CMV: Men who don’t want promiscuous women shouldn’t be seen as “misogynistic” or “slut shaming”. True, tbh this is another catch 22 in this world. I like fun, often the low n count women tend to have more boring personalities then me	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/11/21 03:18 AM
1	CMV: Men who don’t want promiscuous women shouldn’t be seen as “misogynistic” or “slut shaming”. I actually meant to use cooking as an example. So because I’m not a good cook, it’s hypocritical for me to want my wife to be a good cook? FOH. I add value in other ways like providing financially and other areas. Each person will have their own preferences for what they like or are attracted to, your hypocrite thing sounds good on paper but only on paper.	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/11/21 03:14 AM
1	CMV: Men who don’t want promiscuous women shouldn’t be seen as “misogynistic” or “slut shaming”. No, it might be a red flag based on theory but I don’t think women care about n count like that. Must women are not hyper judgmental like that about those things, they don’t care. I’m going to take a gander that you’re in your 30s because that’s when women do start nitpicking and getting picky about random things. Reality is if I meet a woman who has a low N count, chances are I can attract her based on appearance and game, but still not interested if chemistry is not there. That’s happened in t…	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/11/21 03:12 AM
2	CMV: Men who don’t want promiscuous women shouldn’t be seen as “misogynistic” or “slut shaming”. So if I prefer my girlfriend to be good in an area (like cleaning) I’m not, is that also being hypocritical? In my case my preference is to find a low n count woman, my preference is my preference. You telling me to change my preference otherwise I’m a hypocrite simply because I chose not to remain an incel as a man? FOH Your argument is purely based on whether something is hypocritical and that’s a narrow and flawed way of thinking.	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/11/21 03:07 AM
1	CMV: Men who don’t want promiscuous women shouldn’t be seen as “misogynistic” or “slut shaming”. This	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/11/21 03:04 AM
2	CMV: Men who don’t want promiscuous women shouldn’t be seen as “misogynistic” or “slut shaming”. Doing a whole lot of insulting and shaming here are we? Lol Not sure what your point is about more women reproducing then men have? Men don’t have a uterus, men instinctual spread their seed and fuck as many women as they can You’re arguing a very specific point about my stance being hypocritical and I never disagreed, you could’ve kept it classy with the insults but you decided to dive into ad hominem territory. Everything you say sounds like talking theory in class, real life is a bit differen…	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/11/21 03:03 AM
2	CMV: Men who don’t want promiscuous women shouldn’t be seen as “misogynistic” or “slut shaming”. Okay, you’re missing the nuance of what I’m saying but that’s fine. The reality though is that as a man you have to build yourself up and I feel in the society men are incentivized to have higher n count (evolutionary and historically it’s also always been this way) whereas women, no. It’s evolutionary biology. If I wasn’t a player I would’ve stayed an incel and if I saw a low n count woman I would likely fail to attract her whereas now it’s different, in my experience despite what you’re saying…	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/11/21 02:52 AM
0	CMV: Men who don’t want promiscuous women shouldn’t be seen as “misogynistic” or “slut shaming”. No, I do understand I have different standards and how that may come off hypocritical. But I’m a product of my environment. I genuinely fell in love with a girl at 15 (purely based on personality, I didn’t find her to be physically attractive initially) and it didn’t work out partly because I didn’t have experience and was awkward/already liked her too much. I didn’t fall in love afterwards, I knew the difference at this point. My relationships after we’re all meh. I didn’t cheat but the relatio…	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/11/21 02:40 AM
-2	CMV: Men who don’t want promiscuous women shouldn’t be seen as “misogynistic” or “slut shaming”. I don’t have STDs now so I wouldn’t have that risk in the future either unless I was actively sleeping with multiple women at the same time… which I wouldn’t be if I was dating a low N woman I also wouldn’t cheat I would rather break up with them first. I’m only going to settle down if I love my partner and if I love them I won’t cheat but I would like them to not have been a slut for many other men, maybe it’s unreasonable to want that in this day and age 🤷🏻‍♂️😬🔫	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/11/21 02:23 AM
5	CMV: Men who don’t want promiscuous women shouldn’t be seen as “misogynistic” or “slut shaming”. You're absolutely right. The only unfortunate thing is your standards are seemingly impossible in this day and age almost everyone has a high N count or is married.	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/11/21 02:20 AM
3	CMV: Men who don’t want promiscuous women shouldn’t be seen as “misogynistic” or “slut shaming”. I already know that dude lol, that’s why I’m saying fuck this If I truly wanted a low N count would prolly need to travel to a village or something. Just doesn’t seem feasible these days especially in the west.	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/11/21 02:19 AM
1	CMV: Men who don’t want promiscuous women shouldn’t be seen as “misogynistic” or “slut shaming”. Why would she take the risk? Same reason any woman would want to date me, because of personality, game, financial stability etc. ie she found me attractive. It’s no different from attracting a high n woman or anyone else. Not sure what you mean by risk, if you’re referring to STDs I don’t have any	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/11/21 02:16 AM
4	CMV: Men who don’t want promiscuous women shouldn’t be seen as “misogynistic” or “slut shaming”. See my other response, it’s not so much I think she won’t get it as good anywhere else, that was just a side point, but even just the fact that I smutted her out, we did dirty shit, and in the future she’s going to be some dudes bride, to me it feels off because I wouldn’t want to be the dude who marries her. But overall it’s like okay, I guess as a society we’ve accepted that this is the reality now	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/11/21 02:13 AM
3	CMV: Men who don’t want promiscuous women shouldn’t be seen as “misogynistic” or “slut shaming”. If it makes you feel better, a lot of women just say shit to say shit. That comment makes men feel good so they say it. Thats a fair point, although I've heard it pretty consistently, its part of what allowed me to be a player (being able to sleep with a different woman any night depending on who I felt like calling) is to be exceptionally good at pleasing them in bed. Although its also a fair point that women can just. easily forget that when they're getting good dick in a future encounter. My …	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/11/21 02:09 AM
2	CMV: Men who don’t want promiscuous women shouldn’t be seen as “misogynistic” or “slut shaming”. I’ve already pretty much given up and been disillusioned on the current environment, that’s what led me to the dark side of being a player. What I want is still the same though. Is it hypocritical? Yeah I guess. My point was I felt like at a certain point (when I got disillusioned) I just said fuck it I rather be having sex then just be a sad boi forever. But I still don’t want to marry a woman who has taken many other dicks in them. Does that make me a hypocrite? Sure I guess. If I was born les…	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/11/21 01:59 AM
1	CMV: Men who don’t want promiscuous women shouldn’t be seen as “misogynistic” or “slut shaming”. It’s an act of intimacy, and for the woman to have shared that intimacy with someone else other than me, it doesn’t sit right. I would much rather it be like my parents generation or older, where you are with your partner you know she is yours and her pussy hasn’t been shared with anyone else, she doesn’t have memories of other men pounding her pussy and her taking other mens cum etc. I’m sorry but I just much prefer that, although I know in this day and age I would need to go to a village or so…	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/11/21 01:55 AM
11	CMV: Men who don’t want promiscuous women shouldn’t be seen as “misogynistic” or “slut shaming”. Hooking up is one thing, marrying them is another. Feel free to try and marry them, they need love too lol.	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/11/21 01:39 AM
0	CMV: Men who don’t want promiscuous women shouldn’t be seen as “misogynistic” or “slut shaming”. So its only right to want someone with low N (even though theres no guarantee you'll meet someone like that) if you yourself stay a virgin. So by that logic I should be a 31 year old virgin if I want to meet someone who is a virgin. At the same time my social skills would likely be wack and I would probably be an incel if I was a 31 year old virgin. Nah, however my principles wouldn't change I simply don't want to marry a woman whose pussy became community property, if I had less dignity. and se…	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/11/21 01:38 AM
6	CMV: Men who don’t want promiscuous women shouldn’t be seen as “misogynistic” or “slut shaming”. The thing is as a man, in order to "win" these days you're incentivized to have a high n. I turned down 99% of hook up opportunities up til 25 and all that did was leave me lonely and horny. I was a late bloomer, then I became a player, slept with a lot of women and was happy, but I still want a low N count partner because my feelings on that are still the same, and I feel society is such these days that its unlikely to meet a low n regardless of if I went out there and got my fun or not. Regard…	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/11/21 01:35 AM
0	CMV: Men who don’t want promiscuous women shouldn’t be seen as “misogynistic” or “slut shaming”. When I was a kid I was having dinner with my dad at the dinner table and he said "I feel bad for you kids these days. Imagine if you married someone who slept with 15 partners before, they would compare you to all of them. In contrast your mother was my first and only partner." I remember hearing that and thinking fuckin hell, I'm not marrying someone who had 15 other dicks in them before. I'm a proud person and it didn't feel right to me that my wife and life partner will have had 15 dicks in h…	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/11/21 01:29 AM
3	What's wrong with the age gap really? Older, successful women can not get the men they want, because men chose younger women, and don't care about their success. I personally know a broke dude who married my rich friend (girl) within 6 months of meeting her, they didn't sign a pre-nup, now dude is rich and set for life. The girl is not so attractive but the guy is someone she finds attractive. Not a bad gig if you can get it.	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/11/21 11:54 PM
5	CMV: Men don't actually slut shame in real life. This is entirely a female construct that they direct at men to blame for their internalized guilt I think its due to the general lack of options for men so they settle	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/11/21 07:57 AM
2	Are there men who aren’t sexually dominant? degradation kinks have nothing to do with dominance necessarily Yes, I didn't mean to imply they were necessarily tied together	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/10/21 03:50 AM
2	Are there men who aren’t sexually dominant? This is why my kid is not gonna have social media until they're 18 IDGAF lol	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/10/21 02:32 AM
4	Are there men who aren’t sexually dominant? See some of the responses, I'm not into the degrading stuff and I'd guess most aren't either. Don't let the internet skew you into thinking majority of guys like that stuff lol. If anything guys feel the pressure to be dominant since thats what some women ask for or are exclusively attracted to.	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/10/21 02:29 AM
4	Are there men who aren’t sexually dominant? Thats because in the gym its not in a sexual domination context	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/10/21 12:46 AM
21	Are there men who aren’t sexually dominant? Lmao this	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/10/21 12:44 AM
7	Are there men who aren’t sexually dominant? Yup thats me, I'm more into just enjoying the moment and appreciating my partner's body versus forcing myself to choke them, verbally degrade them and shit.	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/10/21 12:44 AM
1	Is a Man Approaching a Woman in the Streets an Effective Way of Dating today? Again I'm playing devils advocate here, but also being realistic at the same time about the chances of doing a hobby and joining some hobby group just to meet people. I've been to meet ups before and it just doesn't seem that realistic And yeah regarding friend groups, their girlfriends might have friends, but its generally not really kosher to sleep with those girls given potential for drama. Plus consider the context, my friend group is pretty close knit we're not really bringing strangers to …	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/10/21 03:24 AM
2	Cold approach doesn't work unless you're attractive enough to not even need to cold approach I wish I saw this sooner. Thanks for sharing, str8 game	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/10/21 02:07 AM
2	Is a Man Approaching a Woman in the Streets an Effective Way of Dating today? Not really, like for instance I have a couple of friends, they're all guys, some have girlfriends some don't. How would I be able to meet girls through them if there are not already any single women in our social group? Even if there were, we supposed to date within our social group? My previous social group purposefully did not date within because it would be weird. And find other friends like how? People say hobbies... like what, where do you join a random hobby group? Plus when you join a hob…	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/10/21 01:13 AM
1	Cold approach doesn't work unless you're attractive enough to not even need to cold approach Not exactly	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/10/21 12:20 AM
1	Is a Man Approaching a Woman in the Streets an Effective Way of Dating today? That leaves OLD as the only avenue	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/10/21 11:55 PM
2	Is a Man Approaching a Woman in the Streets an Effective Way of Dating today? Devils advocate, what if your friends are all guys so your social life involves hanging out with dudes	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/10/21 11:54 PM
2	Cold approach doesn't work unless you're attractive enough to not even need to cold approach Yeah like an example of a general approach, what kinda openers you would open with and how you would carry the convo	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/10/21 11:48 PM
2	Cold approach doesn't work unless you're attractive enough to not even need to cold approach How did you successfully cold approach?	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/10/21 10:47 PM
1	Cold approach doesn't work unless you're attractive enough to not even need to cold approach I agree with the OP and this thread should have more upvotes However its worth mentioning that Charisma also plays a part, but Charisma is also rare I've had success with cold approaches but due to the natural barrier around it like just the general awkwardness of approaching a stranger and their receptiveness, I found online dating to be much easier for meeting people	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/10/21 10:46 PM
1	What cases of "What they say they do VS What they do" do you see in the opposite sex? Well yeah but at the same time its like at this point its like fuck it, world is already fucked up, we already disillusioned, might as well fuck on the first date and accept that modern dating is fucked	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/10/21 04:15 AM
12	What cases of "What they say they do VS What they do" do you see in the opposite sex? They basically want to put no effort or thought into it and just somehow have the most optimal experience laid out for them lol, pathetic	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/10/21 04:09 AM
18	What's your shallowest turnoff ? Having dated someone with BPD, BPD is on the top of my list too. Fuck that shit. And the crazy thing is there are a ton of women who are undiagnosed BPD and their boyfriends are probably just thinking "my girlfriend is crazy" without knowing the reasons why.	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/10/21 02:42 AM
3	Women on Tinder who call themselves foodie lovers: are those foodie callers? This is why abundance of options is good You could just tell her I'm good luv enjoy	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/10/21 10:29 PM
1	Most guys aren't really trying that hard Keep in mind: I'm in the top 10% of women. If I'm ugly, then what are the rest of the girls? Sorry but this is delusional and thats coming from someone who is fond of your bizarre personality	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/10/21 05:55 AM
5	What are the ways in which women enforce Toxic Masculinity? When a girl asks me to slap and choke her in bed lol	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/10/21 05:42 AM
2	What are the ways in which women enforce Toxic Masculinity? Is it really only 15%? Do you have a source for that?	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/10/21 05:42 AM
1	Men Don't Simp Because They Want To Men Simp Because They Have To Those things you mention don't constitute simping and have never seen anyone term it as such, they're just normal things. Why would leaving the house and being fund to be around simping, that makes no sense at all. Simping has a specific definition. I like the definition from Urbandictionary: "Someone who does way too much for a person they like"	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/10/21 12:09 AM
2	Men Don't Simp Because They Want To Men Simp Because They Have To Jesus, who hurt you? Lol	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/10/21 10:41 PM
1	Men Don't Simp Because They Want To Men Simp Because They Have To This is totally wrong, being a simp is not going to get you women lol	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/10/21 09:31 PM
11	What’s the difference between someone who is just kind and a simp? Many ways to define a simp, for me I think of the dude who is paying $30/mo (or whatever) to see nudes and chat with a model from Onlyfans when porn is free	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/10/21 09:27 PM
1	CMV: "Chadfishing experiments" don't prove what their proponents think You clearly never ran one of these experiments before, they're real lol. It's not like someone went through the trouble of just faking one experiment for reasons. Here's a video full of these https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MSq54f2JT\_U	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/10/21 07:50 PM
5	Is there any actual evidence behind the idea that women actually "like" sex? Most women say they hate it Wtf no they don't lol, in my experience almost all women I know love sex. You might see femcels on here say they don't like it but they're not representative Put it this way, I've had harems in the past, and that was only possible because the women loved sex with me	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/10/21 11:49 AM
3	Telling people "it will get better" is the worst advice It can get better though depending on your circumstances lol, I did it True love however is extremely rare for anyone, I think many people will never experience it in their life times	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/10/21 09:02 AM
3	CMV: "Chadfishing experiments" don't prove what their proponents think I said very cringey stuff. I also saw other experiments of guys who openly put in their bio they've been convicted for molesting children. This video has many good examples https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MSq54f2JT_U. Same results. You're downplaying but its coming off as disingenuous lol. These are absurd and ridiculous things that would've gotten anyone else dinged but because the women found the picture attractive they put up with it. And also I ended up improving my SMV to arguably top 5-20%…	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/10/21 08:56 AM
3	CMV: "Chadfishing experiments" don't prove what their proponents think racist and Nazi women exist, and I suppose some go on tinder. Nazi women are incredibly rare in the US especially in the younger modern demographic Anyways it seems like you're discounting the results from chadfishing but the reality is other similar results have proven the same thing. I did a similar experiment in 2013 when I was still having troubles getting dates, and holy shit the difference in results I Was gettin simply from using a generically attractive photo of a white guy was night and…	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/10/21 08:48 AM
3	CMV: "Chadfishing experiments" don't prove what their proponents think Highly doubt theres that many or any hot females on tinder who are secretly nazis randomly lmao And doubt that "they're making a joke" would be the first thing that comes to mind since the guy was pretty serious and never gave off a hint he was joking, so yes both sound like mental gynmastics and excuses	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/10/21 08:34 AM
4	CMV: "Chadfishing experiments" don't prove what their proponents think This sounds like a lot of mental gymnastics tbh, not very likely compared to the obvious explanation	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/10/21 07:41 AM
6	CMV: "Chadfishing experiments" don't prove what their proponents think You should run one of these experiments yourself. I ran one in like 2013. At that time I struggling to get matches and would probably consider myself as average on the SMV scale. Then pulled some random white model dude's picture, started getting matches almost every swipe. After the matches I started testing lines, said some really weird and outlandish shit on purpose then still managed to swing it to secure the bang, got them all to agree to show up at my place and get naked soon as they walk …	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/10/21 07:36 AM
2	Don't beat yourself up over Online Dating She would rather be “Ms. Tuesday” to the top 5% than be Ms “7-days/week” with one bottom 95% man. It was surprisingly easy for me to have a different girlfriend for each day of the week so yes you're right	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/10/21 04:34 AM
2	Can men actually achieve the required standards or are they a little unrealistic? I was with you until no to dogs, thats pretty harsh lol	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/10/21 03:08 AM
3	Can men actually achieve the required standards or are they a little unrealistic? Yeah its fucked up out there, highly disappointing.	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/10/21 02:59 AM
1	[Q4All]How high is the bar for being “girlfriend material”? My standards for girlfriend are a lot less then standards for marriage	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/10/21 08:55 PM
2	Most guys aren't really trying that hard Lmao I read sex tourism, scrolled up to see the name, knew it was you.	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/10/21 07:33 AM
2	Is much of how men experience the "Women are Wonderful" effect internally sparked, "societal," or both? Mine came about from seeing other boys from pre school onwards act like dirty annoying little shits, while girls seemed to be nice and reserved and clean. This view changed as I lost my innocence tho. I remember this one girl in third grade who would make mazes for people, she was so nice and seemed angelic. She was baseline for me to have this women is wonderful view. Years later I ran into her in a party and she was high off her mind on coke or some drug. That was a big juxtaposition.	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/10/21 07:14 AM
1	The Purge Concludes Same	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/10/21 07:46 PM
1	The 80/20 rule is true, one should accept it and move on (CMV) Withholding information? What information? WTF are you talking about, would it kill you to be specific?	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/10/21 07:45 PM
1	The 80/20 rule is true, one should accept it and move on (CMV) The number was not meant to be taken literally but more to prove the point of skewed disproportion	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/10/21 07:26 AM
1	The 80/20 rule is true, one should accept it and move on (CMV) If thats how you feel about when a stranger compliments you, how is anyone possibly able to meet you outside of mutual friends or OLD? Complimenting a stranger is a common way for a non-threatening, low risk opener btw, so its odd that you think its weird	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/10/21 07:24 AM
2	The 80/20 rule is true, one should accept it and move on (CMV) Good insight, I guess such is life. Certain things are out of control like red pill truths	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/10/21 07:20 AM
1	If you already have negative preconceived notions about women/men before you even meet them, you’re pulling out the rug from under your very own feet. Overall do you see my point with the real life thing? Feels like an out dated modality	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/10/21 05:52 AM
1	If you already have negative preconceived notions about women/men before you even meet them, you’re pulling out the rug from under your very own feet. She doesn't because shes married so I said like her I also don't need luck right now	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/10/21 05:50 AM
1	Good boys finish last Interesting that he has family values and at the same time is letting you procure women for him to fuck and lets you post your nudes online which seem counter to traditional family values	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/10/21 05:12 AM
2	If you already have negative preconceived notions about women/men before you even meet them, you’re pulling out the rug from under your very own feet. I think if you can come up with a way to compliment something non-sexual, it helps a ton. If I got a compliment from a guy about how good my hair looks, or how my outfit looks bitchin, or whatever neutral compliment I’d gotten, I would receive it much better than someone telling me my smile/ass/whatever the fuck was hawt. You gotta be subtle. Look at a book they’re reading, a cool purse, just be interested in whatever it is you’re talking about. Flattering someone vs being blatant is a great way…	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/10/21 05:09 AM
1	Good boys finish last What do you like about the dude? Its funny cause everyone is saying he's unattractive but this is the dude you chose to worship, what do you see in him 😂	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/10/21 05:05 AM
2	Good boys finish last This is too funny, god bless you woman 😂 you're a character Its the irony	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/10/21 04:52 AM
1	If you already have negative preconceived notions about women/men before you even meet them, you’re pulling out the rug from under your very own feet. 100% agree with the spirit of your post. I made a post here yesterday and encountered a lot of man-hating women in the comments, it was new to see and this message is for them. Also to the frustrated men as well, both male and female incels. I see you mention going out and interacting more. To play devils advocate how exactly do you get to meet new people for dating? For me its OLD. I think meeting girls in person is difficult for men. Maybe its different for women. Probably varies based on loca…	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/10/21 04:37 AM
1	The 80/20 rule is true, one should accept it and move on (CMV) If you don't have the looks, you'll just have to make them like you personally FIRST (don't seem desperate to get laid) to be ok with your looks. The issue is you just going out and trying to get dates with random chicks but they don't even have much positive impression of your personality yet, so the only thing they can judge from you is your appearance. And if it's already a bad start... The chances of you getting laid lowers even more. Women would be willing to date a guy not that good lookin…	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/10/21 03:31 AM
1	What's the debate? The 80/20 rule is true and its a cold world out there I'm pretty sure many of them do not have sex lol If you hate men you're likely not going to be out seeking sex, and those females are unlikely to get a higher value man to begin with which they would be seeking since you just said they're picky	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/10/21 01:30 AM
1	The 80/20 rule is true, one should accept it and move on (CMV) It worked in hunter gatherer societies, hard to see that working in a larger society. The communist revolutions were an attempt at the ideal of universal equality and cooperation and look where that turned out	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/10/21 01:29 AM
1	The 80/20 rule is true, one should accept it and move on (CMV) Its a gross anthropomorphization of animal behavior to conflate a social trend with biology. It's not necessarily biological but sociological because humans unconsciously judge and based their interactions with others based on status.	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/10/21 01:27 AM
4	Q4Men who think women should give men everything they gave their exes: A lot of guys actually really value a girl who pegs Prostate gland and all Just sayin'	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/10/21 01:13 AM
0	Q4Men who think women should give men everything they gave their exes: No man is going to agree to get pegged in the ass if they don't enjoy it just to satisfy her, that's like torture. On the flip side if the guy if the guy likes, say threesomes, and the girl isn't into it, its a minor annoyance versus subjecting to getting an unwanted ass pounding every time they have sex. Tbh the question is phrased weird in part because the example being used. Are you into pegging Mrs_Drgree 🤔 ? (I kid, don't shoot me)	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/10/21 01:09 AM
1	The 80/20 rule is true, one should accept it and move on (CMV) While true I have a hard time understanding or relating that to your point about alpha males not being real Post agricultural and modern society clearly shows the concept in place everywhere	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/10/21 01:03 AM
1	The 80/20 rule is true, one should accept it and move on (CMV) True about pre agricultural societies. My only point to you was to address the Alpha males are not real statement, objectively I don't think thats true. But human society is shifting and nuanced, for instance the idea of alpha males probably develops under patriarchal societies but there have also been matriarchal societies.	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/10/21 12:40 AM
1	The 80/20 rule is true, one should accept it and move on (CMV) Bonobos are unique as apes, I think its disingenuous to use them as examples. They are lovers not fighters. Chimpazees for instance have an alpha structure Plus why even look at apes, look at human history, its laid out bare.	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/10/21 12:20 AM
1	The 80/20 rule is true, one should accept it and move on (CMV) I don't even think in those terms tbh, was just relating it to what you're saying about the idea of Alphas not existing which from jordan_form's post put it in the context of sexual accessibility Interesting that you say you took anthropology class and would have this take, history is literally full of Alpha males (see kings, chiefs, etc.)	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/10/21 12:17 AM
2	The 80/20 rule is true, one should accept it and move on (CMV) Good rebuttal to her. To be fair though, from experience "true love" can happen outside of sexual attraction but thats so rare that it might as well not be discussed. Girl I fell in love with was someone I found ugly at first sight but after I fell in love I no longer felt that way. Objectively she's not the most conventionally attractive but I would've turned down the hottest model in the world for her.	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/10/21 12:11 AM
1	The 80/20 rule is true, one should accept it and move on (CMV) Alpha males are real, even in human society harems for top status men were a thing until religion made monogamy universal (for the most part sans islam, mormon etc.) Even in modern day society I've had harems while guys I know are struggling to get a date. Also its spelled Alpha not Alfa.	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/10/21 12:07 AM
1	The 80/20 rule is true, one should accept it and move on (CMV) You sound just as shallow as the women you criticize. In fact if you’re not shallow why don’t you date an overweight woman with a beautiful personality? Why don’t you put your money where your mouth is and lead by example? Believe what you want, years ago I'd fallen in love with a girl who was conventionally unattractive but her personality drew me in, so I have lead by example, but also know how hard it is to find someone who vibes with you on that level. I have never encountered an individual …	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/10/21 12:03 AM
2	The 80/20 rule is true, one should accept it and move on (CMV) That's the thing, what are you talking about... what lie?	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/10/21 11:59 PM
1	The 80/20 rule is true, one should accept it and move on (CMV) That explains it, I think the dynamics there would be way different compared to SF	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/10/21 08:32 PM
3	The 80/20 rule is true, one should accept it and move on (CMV) You're probably right, I had a good foundation but didn't take much care of appearances and other things because I thought the world wasn't as operated by animal instinct as it is	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/10/21 08:30 PM
2	The 80/20 rule is true, one should accept it and move on (CMV) ".... but dating is HARD so I ~should~ lie so it's easier." Not sure what you're referring to or where you got that from.	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/10/21 08:27 PM
2	The 80/20 rule is true, one should accept it and move on (CMV) How exactly do you get to know someone in person? For me its usually to get someone to agree to meet off of tinder first As for meeting people in person elsewhere? Lets lay it out a bit, I think meeting girls in person is difficult for men. Maybe its different for women. Probably varies based on location, context and access to new social circles too, but I'll use myself as an example. - I personally don't like clubbing that much and feel a club isn't a great place to meet new people (although I'…	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/10/21 08:22 PM
1	The 80/20 rule is true, one should accept it and move on (CMV) Not a dig against you but username checks out	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/10/21 08:09 PM
1	The 80/20 rule is true, one should accept it and move on (CMV) Funny that you use the term "Tender", one of my exes did too Where I live and within my demographic (20s-30s in San Francisco) all the people I know use OLD pretty almost exclusively to meet new people What the Tinder example demonstrates is people are more shallow then what a lot of people like people who grew up on the blue pill are led to believe	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/10/21 08:01 PM
3	The 80/20 rule is true, one should accept it and move on (CMV) Who told you no women were shallow? Shallow women are all over TV and media, it can't be a secret that shallow women exist. I think part of a common trap with the bluepill is putting women on a pedestal, like they are somehow more noble then men in their nature. Like women can do no wrong. But the truth is we're all driven by similar instincts. For instance in this world today, many people will not believe that a woman can physically abuse a man, and would still stand up and white knight for the…	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/10/21 01:26 PM
2	The 80/20 rule is true, one should accept it and move on (CMV) I think Tinder just happens to be more driven by hookups and lust, BUT it represents attraction at its most honest as well If you go to other dating sites like Match and OKCupid the top criteria becomes things like financial stability especially for older demographic since the focus is on marriage. I've seen many minority women marry an ugly white guy for citizenship and financial stability via those other platforms.	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/10/21 01:00 PM
1	The 80/20 rule is true, one should accept it and move on (CMV) Yeah this is one of my my first times browsing here in over a year. That idea sounds easy to refute, I posted a rebuttal to that idea in this thread.	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/10/21 12:57 PM
2	The 80/20 rule is true, one should accept it and move on (CMV) I meant obvious that each individual's taste is going to differ, some might be into tall guys some might be into fat guys, some might be into certain ethnicities, etc. My understanding of you saying "exclusively framed as the same 20%" was of the idea of some people framing factors of attraction as universal (like being tall)	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/10/21 12:53 PM
2	The 80/20 rule is true, one should accept it and move on (CMV) I disagree. My theory is attraction lives in spectrums, for instance I've met girls who are into fat guys, girls who are into skinny guys, girls who are into short guys, girls who are into very specific types. Certain spectrums like preferring tall guys do have a larger percentage than others, like theres probably way more girls who prefer tall guys versus girls who prefer short guys but I bet ones who prefer short does exist as well, just in smaller percentage. I know there are girls of any eth…	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/10/21 12:48 PM
3	The 80/20 rule is true, one should accept it and move on (CMV) So the 80/20 rule may be pointing in the right direction, broadly. But at this point using numbers to describe the female attraction pattern does more harm than good. Trying to understand your point on this, can you elaborate on why you believe it would do more harm then good?	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/10/21 12:36 PM
3	The 80/20 rule is true, one should accept it and move on (CMV) I wasn't aware of that and am not sure why anyone would frame it as such, since its obvious individual tastes differ.	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/10/21 12:31 PM
7	The 80/20 rule is true, one should accept it and move on (CMV) I think the blue pill ideology was more like women are not shallow, just be a nice person and true love will find you type of thing. For me I often heard this idea that appearances don't matter much or aren't everything. And you're relating your post to me, but I think a wide swath of society can identify with growing up with these messages.	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/10/21 12:29 PM
-2	The 80/20 rule is true, one should accept it and move on (CMV) But average women who go after really hot men don’t only go after hot men. They will happily have sex with or date an average man too. Sure, but the dating frustration the average modern guy has to go through feels disproportionate to the amount of average women supposedly available to them, and I believe that is part of the reason I think theres a growing number of incel and MGTOW men (I would be remiss to mention that this is also dependent on location and demographics of that location but I'm…	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/10/21 12:27 PM
2	The 80/20 rule is true, one should accept it and move on (CMV) Well yea. Stacey prefers the top 20% of men because she’s the top 20% of women. They’re her looksmatch. Thats one thing, but then the other is that the top 20% of guys will get majority of matches whereas the average guy (say top 50%) might be lucky to get a handful of matches from what I've seen, so the top percentage disproportionately benefits is my point	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/10/21 12:13 PM
0	The 80/20 rule is true, one should accept it and move on (CMV) Could I recategorize this as a discussion vs cmv?	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/10/21 12:09 PM
1	The 80/20 rule is true, one should accept it and move on (CMV) I see. Maybe where you live also plays into it, I live in San Francisco.	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/10/21 12:08 PM
1	The 80/20 rule is true, one should accept it and move on (CMV) Being that your flair says friendly misandrist I will assume you're a woman I believe the 80/20 rule is true, if you're a man you could probably identify with it. To be fair and to your point, it probably also applies the other way for women as well, and while Stacey would settle for whatever she would settle for, I think Stacey would still strongly prefer the 20 versus the 80 (which is my point)	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/10/21 12:07 PM
15	The 80/20 rule is true, one should accept it and move on (CMV) The point isn't that alone, which is a truism, but that the 80/20 rule holds and is a real thing in dating dynamics, a lot of people still seem unaware of that though.	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/10/21 12:04 PM
5	The 80/20 rule is true, one should accept it and move on (CMV) Its definitely not the same 20% of all men since each persons tastes different, I would argue its the 20% for each individual person according to their individual taste and preference	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/10/21 12:00 PM
6	The 80/20 rule is true, one should accept it and move on (CMV) For me personally only anecdotal evidence. It'd be interesting if people did studies on it. I did an informal study when I was 23, similar to the one referenced in OP, saw the difference immediately. I've been on both sides of the fence. On one side, like back when I was 23, I would be lucky to get 1-2 good tinder match a week. After being in the top X% percentage, I was getting 40+ a day. To be fair I think the 80/20 phenomenon as it relates to dating is exacerbated in online dating because of …	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/10/21 11:56 AM
7	The 80/20 rule is true, one should accept it and move on (CMV) True but that screenshot was just an example to speaks to a larger truth. A quick browse of top posts for the week turned up similar examples https://www.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/q1b6k4/women\_on\_ppd\_women\_do\_not\_find\_80\_of\_men\_t0\_be/ I ran a similar experiment myself several years ago (around the time I was having trouble getting a coffee date) and came to the same results Plus if you're successful on dating sites your experience can probably corroborate the idea that 20…	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/10/21 11:54 AM
3	The 80/20 rule is true, one should accept it and move on (CMV) I didn't say game was a shallow thing to be concerned with, I was referring to appearance when I said that (ie. working out mostly for the purposes of getting muscles because you think women like them) You probably have a point regarding clothe	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/10/21 11:45 AM
2	The Purge Concludes The purge should be just 24/7 Tbh, makes this sub a lot better.	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/10/21 11:22 AM
4	What's the debate? The 80/20 rule is true and its a cold world out there Message sent, though this post was not meant to be a CMV. I'm not necessarily looking to have my views changed but to have a discussion. This is not a circle jerk post as evidenced by the varied discussion in the comments.	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/10/21 10:20 AM
3	What's the debate? The 80/20 rule is true and its a cold world out there What do you mean, wasn't meant to be a circlejerk but to elicit discussion (unless you're referring to the comments)	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/10/21 10:13 AM
1	What's the debate? The 80/20 rule is true and its a cold world out there Again, IRL doesn't have to be (arguably shouldn't be) "strangers on the streets"--think friends-of-friends, people who came to a college alumni thing same as you, stuff like that. Thats the traditional way. I'm not disagreeing with you, and I'm not personally identifying with this particular issue, however if I were to empathize with those who have trouble from what I've seen they lack the social structure to even have those type of encounters (friends of friends, college alumni that you randoml…	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/10/21 10:11 AM
1	What's the debate? The 80/20 rule is true and its a cold world out there Tinder was just an example, its not just tinder. Plus from what I've seen most younger generation date via OLD these days	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/10/21 10:04 AM
1	What's the debate? The 80/20 rule is true and its a cold world out there Sure those things help but lets face it modern day society is pretty isolated Also I'm not talking about myself but lonely people in general.	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/10/21 10:04 AM
1	What's the debate? The 80/20 rule is true and its a cold world out there I disagree, you need a lot of charisma to succeed in a cold IRL pick up these days You'll probably just have an awkward drink with someone and then they leave. The skills to "get" a date IRL are also the skills you need to be a good date. So you'll end up having to learn them anyway. Yes, for a shy person this is hard, but it beats the alternatives. Personally I'm not that good with talking to strangers on the streets but I'm good with dates This is a fair concern, which is why it's good to meet…	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/10/21 10:00 AM
1	What's the debate? The 80/20 rule is true and its a cold world out there Absolutely	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/10/21 09:46 AM
1	What's the debate? The 80/20 rule is true and its a cold world out there Personally I'm not actively trying to find dates right now but I will say that from my experience in the past, I can confirm its not easy at all to find dates IRL. It requires you to see a girl you find attractive, then have the courage to approach them and wit to have a good opener and conversation skills the carry the conversation, build attraction and take it to the next level. And they have to be single and attracted to you as well. Even though I've had some success with real life pick ups i…	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/10/21 09:43 AM
1	What's the debate? The 80/20 rule is true and its a cold world out there Yes but most will still need to contend with loneliness as its human nature and that continues the cycle	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/10/21 09:15 AM
1	What's the debate? The 80/20 rule is true and its a cold world out there Anyways sorry for the rambling lol Naw, good points. I think dating in boomer generation definitely changed compared to now. Back then it was like dating within your community and then marriage. Now everyone is online and people hardly are able to meet others IRL. Thats why whenever a boomer comes in to boomer-splain its immediately abundantly obvious they're from a different generation When I first discovered how things are it blew my mind, its pretty cool to talk about the subject openly with …	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/10/21 09:12 AM
1	What's the debate? The 80/20 rule is true and its a cold world out there Maybe? But that depends on the photo being one that conveys a vibe and a person being perceptive enough to see it. Like I said it plays a factor but isn't the whole story, its a part of attraction but overall attraction (which depends on many other variables like physical appearance etc) itself is the story imo	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/10/21 09:07 AM
1	What's the debate? The 80/20 rule is true and its a cold world out there It doesn't help that social media and society in general seems to be sexualizing women at a younger and younger age.	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/10/21 09:06 AM
5	What's the debate? The 80/20 rule is true and its a cold world out there I can tell you are older and very much disconnected to the unique challenges this younger generation faces Getting out the house isn't going to do much when no one else is, perhaps you've noticed that America isn't the most social place these days, people go to work then go home and sleep, rinse repeat.	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/10/21 09:03 AM
1	What's the debate? The 80/20 rule is true and its a cold world out there Yeah, it highlights that if you're in the top percentage you can get away with a lot and have a ton of options, in stark contrast to someone who is say average or top 50%	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/10/21 08:59 AM
1	What's the debate? The 80/20 rule is true and its a cold world out there I disagree, the 80/20 rule is based on attraction overall, being a "nice guy" is only a factor of attraction that works against you. It's a valid point but only a subset of attraction itself. For instance the tinder example in my original post has nothing to do with being a nice guy but more about physical attraction.	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/10/21 08:56 AM
1	What's the debate? The 80/20 rule is true and its a cold world out there I think these are legit communities that have organically developed as a result of societal grievances	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/10/21 08:52 AM
1	What's the debate? The 80/20 rule is true and its a cold world out there Yes but the difference is with OLD theres a lot more options/possibility However then you run into the issue of 80/20 law in the form of demand and supply really taking force	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/10/21 08:41 AM
2	What's the debate? The 80/20 rule is true and its a cold world out there I don't know if works is the right term, its just the truth of peeling the veil on sexual dynamics that go on that were never taught to us conventionally	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/10/21 08:31 AM
2	What's the debate? The 80/20 rule is true and its a cold world out there I would hope people would be a little less shallow, but when its to the point they would link to hook up even if the guy admits he has a swastika tattoo, that shows something beyond just the acknowledge of photo being main criteria	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/10/21 08:27 AM
1	What's the debate? The 80/20 rule is true and its a cold world out there If feels like most people in my generation are on online dating apps and online dating has always had an imbalance in numbers Stats show more and more sexless men each year (not sure what its like for women) thus creating incels and spaces for discussion of frustrations like this sub	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/10/21 08:26 AM
2	What's the debate? The 80/20 rule is true and its a cold world out there Maybe some therapy with a psychologist would help. Dude you don't have to preach to me, this post isn't about me lol. I don't have struggles in the dating realm, this post is simply about concept of the 80/20 rule. Seems a lot of people here automatically project their response as if OP is always the one coming from a place of frustration.	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/10/21 08:15 AM
2	What's the debate? The 80/20 rule is true and its a cold world out there I know, you think a very specific way, and good for you but I have to tell you most women don't seem to think this way.	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/10/21 08:12 AM
1	What's the debate? The 80/20 rule is true and its a cold world out there Yeah even if its through a common activity, the chances its a person of the opposite sex you're attracted to, and they're single, and they're also attracted to you as well is pretty statistically slim in my experience. Good if it works for you. The people of my generation (20s-30s) seem to mainly rely on online dating from what I've seen.	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/10/21 08:11 AM
1	What's the debate? The 80/20 rule is true and its a cold world out there Tinder aside I think the 80/20 rule still applies, its less so in IRL because less choices but definitely more so in online dating due to choices leading to supply and demand dynamics And casual sex is a subculture but almost feels like its become THE culture or a large part of it for my generation	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/10/21 08:10 AM
1	Good boys finish last Yeah honestly think its either a male incel cosplaying as a woman and using someone else's media, or just a very, very... different woman lol. The resolute disbelief expressed by her/him is similar to what incels think due to disillusionment	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/10/21 08:08 AM
1	What's the debate? The 80/20 rule is true and its a cold world out there 80/20 is a general rule https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pareto_principle It applies to many things and incidentally also to modern dating especially the online kind (which seems everyone in our generation is on)	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/10/21 08:05 AM
1	What's the debate? The 80/20 rule is true and its a cold world out there The point is even if its IRL, the shallow aspects play a larger part then most people are willing to admit. Usually the purpose of things like Online dating is to get that first date in IRL. Have you tried meeting people IRL? Real talk its hard as fuck, thats the truth, and most people don't even have the nerve or game to approach a stranger in real life for fear of coming off as creeps.	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/10/21 08:00 AM
2	What's the debate? The 80/20 rule is true and its a cold world out there This is a hilarious response I have to give it to you. I don't think sex tourism is the way either that is inherently exploiting the people of a poorer country. The fact that you suggested it is funny though I have to give it to you. Are you really a girl? I've never met a girl like you before. Thats neither a bad nor good thing, just interesting.	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/10/21 07:59 AM
1	What's the debate? The 80/20 rule is true and its a cold world out there How old are you? One consequence of the modern day is that its usually less easy to meet people IRL and more people of both genders do it online for easier accessibility	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/10/21 07:57 AM
1	What's the debate? The 80/20 rule is true and its a cold world out there Because it doesn't matter if you have 10K matches you're still only going to talk to the top 5% you find attractive, is that so hard to grasp I know you're a girl but the way you think mirrors that of a male incel I've had girls who have had thousands of matches and in the end they only wanted me	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/10/21 07:56 AM
4	What's the debate? The 80/20 rule is true and its a cold world out there That the 80/20 rule is real, average men will have a tough time getting the top attractive women, and you just kinda have to accept and deal with it.	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/10/21 07:55 AM
1	Good boys finish last Lol I love when people online immediately dismiss something because they can't personally fathom it happening based on their own limited world view Trust me the possibilities in this world is a lot more then what your binary world view might conclude, and the more you travel and experience the world the more that usually becomes clear (vs experiencing it purely from computer with strangers online)	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/10/21 07:48 AM
1	What's the debate? The 80/20 rule is true and its a cold world out there I understand where you're coming from but to be clear you seem to be conflating some things by putting some words in my mouth That said, I don't buy that being male is that giant of an affliction in a world built for men. I never said anything about being born as a male having giant affliction. This post is about dating dynamics and accepting the reality of the 80/20 rule It's socially respectable in my own lifetime to trash people like me in a society that qualifies the value of women based on …	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/10/21 07:44 AM
1	What's the debate? The 80/20 rule is true and its a cold world out there Yeah, thats what to you from the first response, that OLD is amplifying the supply and demand factor.	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/10/21 07:33 AM
1	Good boys finish last Believe what you want lol It is this stringent belief you have thats wrong though I'm living proof of it. You can believe I'm lying (for whatever reason?) but those are cold hard facts 🤷‍♂️	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/10/21 07:32 AM
1	Good boys finish last Not sure the point you're trying to make. I was relatively sexless in college, then in my 20s I had harems pretty much throughout. So whats the point, I found my inner charisma but also had higher education.	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/10/21 07:27 AM
1	What's the debate? The 80/20 rule is true and its a cold world out there Yup thats the same as what I'm saying	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/10/21 07:26 AM
0	What's the debate? The 80/20 rule is true and its a cold world out there I don't think its about feminism but more about supply and demand being laid bare by online platforms and natural instinct of female hypergamy.	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/10/21 07:15 AM
0	What's the debate? The 80/20 rule is true and its a cold world out there I empathize, but what I would suggest is to find content-ness, peace and wisdom within yourself, if you work on yourself as a foundation good things will probably come to you, or at the least your mental state will be better	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/10/21 07:14 AM
2	What's the debate? The 80/20 rule is true and its a cold world out there I don't know about 99/1 that seems extreme because the other top 4% is still going to be attractive to vast majority of women The fact that 95/5 even makes sense is because you have online platforms like dating sites that really lay out the supply/demand dynamics and let it play out in full	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/10/21 07:11 AM
2	What's the debate? The 80/20 rule is true and its a cold world out there Not sure if srs but see FDS	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/10/21 06:59 AM
0	Good boys finish last Educated guys can be come chads though, it comes down to the person Education itself is not a ticket to sex, your charisma is	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/10/21 06:58 AM
7	What's the debate? The 80/20 rule is true and its a cold world out there Interesting response. I'll preface by saying that I can understand your response given that you haven't been a man. And I don't know the experience of the average overachieving twenty something female, I won't comment on that and I don't think it's about that as I don't like framing things in men vs women terms I will say this though, I remember being 23 years old, college educated and working a good job, decent looking (I thought), and I had the hardest fucking time getting a girl to even get a…	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/10/21 06:57 AM
1	What's the debate? The 80/20 rule is true and its a cold world out there You do have a point even if I don't think laws to stem violence can be argued on the same level as forcing a woman to have sex with someone. I think it's a real social problem that men have been having less and less sex leading to a whole subsection of society who are incels but we live in a society that values the individuals right for free choice and that's the tradeoff If you're arguing that women should be getting into arranged marriages and forced to have sex with people they're not attract…	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/10/21 06:46 AM
3	Good boys finish last Assuming the studies are correct the macro trends are what they are and its not surprising because if you are someone who is as dedicated to your education as to be able to get into Harvard you're probably spending less time chasing and getting pussy, but on an individual level you can be educated and have have more sex then the jobless counterpart but it comes down to the individual statistics aside, thats because sexual attraction is independent of your level of education but other factors lik…	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/10/21 06:44 AM
1	What's the debate? The 80/20 rule is true and its a cold world out there The switch in power dynamic is interesting no? I did a similar experiment years ago with similar result and it was eye opening My response was to become a "chad" IRL by working on self but that won't work for everyone	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/10/21 06:40 AM
6	What's the debate? The 80/20 rule is true and its a cold world out there Female incel, first one I've ran into online	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/10/21 06:35 AM
1	What's the debate? The 80/20 rule is true and its a cold world out there Yup this is the basic foundation of red pill and I think it the dynamic it describes is true at the core	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/10/21 06:33 AM
5	Good boys finish last Maybe the high school drop out has had success with girls in high school so has more confidence, maybe has more free time and works out more etc or spends more time chasing pussy. The prior success leading to confidence is probably a big factor. Whereas people who went to college may be less outgoing, their priorities could be more into other things like study. But they can still have game, it's not like getting an education straight up kills their chances because while environment plays a part …	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/10/21 06:29 AM
-1	What's the debate? The 80/20 rule is true and its a cold world out there yeah or 95/5, the 80/20 is just to prove a point that its aligned to the spirit of the rule	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/10/21 06:26 AM
1	Good boys finish last Yes but still a false equivocation because you can be educated and also have a lot of sex There are probably other environmental factors at play that can skew the numbers, like people who are educated might be spending less time ho'ing around or be around a different crowd, but one can absolutely be educated and have way more sex then the vast majority of uneducated guys because attraction is not based on your education but how well your overall game is	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/10/21 06:24 AM
2	Good boys finish last Thats a false equivocation. They do, if the man is able to attract the woman. Education/intelligence is not correlated to sexual success, game is.	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/10/21 06:15 AM
0	What's the debate? The 80/20 rule is true and its a cold world out there Not because reasons, but because it's kind of a requirement for living in a society for rules to be in place where people can behave civilly and get along with each other.	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/10/21 06:13 AM
1	What's the debate? The 80/20 rule is true and its a cold world out there People do attack others in a vacuum for instance in the act of committing a robbery and there's a pretty established construct on what is right or wrong in physical attacks When it comes to sex you can't force a woman to have sex with someone she doesn't want to, are you proposing there be some sort of law around it? Closest thing I can think of is arranged marriages which has been a thing for thousands of years. Personally that doesn't sound humane either.	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/10/21 06:02 AM
2	What's the debate? The 80/20 rule is true and its a cold world out there Isn't it a waste of time at the end presenting all that evidence tho, who they trying to convince, probably better off spending that time working on themselves	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/10/21 05:59 AM
3	What's the debate? The 80/20 rule is true and its a cold world out there Why don't people tell you this when you're younger? It would save everyone a lot of time, stress and heartache. I agree, there's a lot of things people should tell you when you're younger including this and things like how to think critically	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/10/21 05:45 AM
9	Good boys finish last Not necessarily, I highly doubt its about education, I think thats more of a sign of correlation vs causation, IMO its more about the energy you project	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/10/21 05:42 AM
10	What's the debate? The 80/20 rule is true and its a cold world out there Welp that's growing up and the red pill for you You discover a lot of fucked up things about the world as you shed your innocence Guessing the next generation will be less blue-pilled as a result of the wide disillusionment a lot of men have faced in this generation	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/10/21 05:38 AM
4	What's the debate? The 80/20 rule is true and its a cold world out there Probably because there's less lonely women then lonely men, its always been like that on dating sites, supply/demand ratio is off. Especially when you take into the 80/20, its rough for most men	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/10/21 05:37 AM
1	What's the debate? The 80/20 rule is true and its a cold world out there Because one is an act of violence and the other is not? Laws and morality are a human construct but the logic behind this seems pretty clear to me	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/10/21 05:37 AM
3	What's the debate? The 80/20 rule is true and its a cold world out there Again I never said mens problems are womens problems, thats actually the spirit of the post itself.	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/10/21 05:35 AM
3	What's the debate? The 80/20 rule is true and its a cold world out there I think what the "chadfishing" (LOL at the name) proves is that for women on tinder physical attraction matters more then other criteria, and in a way validates the RP philosophy which was always true at its core (ignoring the other toxic elements) There's many factors to "attraction", money and status is another To answer your question a man just has to be considered top 5% in attractiveness for the woman, everyone has diff tastes but if you're in the top 5% you'll have easy success, if you're …	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/10/21 05:28 AM
5	Good boys finish last Given your username and flair I thought for sure you were an incel roleplaying as a woman Then I clicked on your profile and you have a wealth of content so I'm going to assume you're real To answer your question, I'm an entrepreneur and my lifestyle has enabled me to be a world traveling playboy. Its awesome. But at the same, its not lasting and doesn't necessarily bring lasting fulfillment, love and family does, so at some point I think I'd need to settle down and it's going to be an adjustmen…	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/10/21 05:26 AM
4	What's the debate? The 80/20 rule is true and its a cold world out there I don't expect you to be empathetic or understanding, simply pointing out an observation. Also you might be commenting in a general manner but if you're responding specifically about what I said, I never said it was women's problem, your tone sounds rather FDSish because of its defensiveness. In contrast to what you're saying, my point is stating that this is just the reality and it is what it is.	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/10/21 05:18 AM
3	What's the debate? The 80/20 rule is true and its a cold world out there Modern society is kind of fucked and this is a symptom of it. Ideally you would have a cohort of friends who can provide companionship and love. You don't necessarily NEED love but loneliness is a bitch Modern society is also responsible for this new demographic of incels and people turning to red pill	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/10/21 05:17 AM
2	What's the debate? The 80/20 rule is true and its a cold world out there You can correct certain behaviors with law, but other things like who a woman can choose to fuck can't really be dictated by law and with things like that you're sort of at the mercy of human instinct and natural behavior I'm an entrepreneur and I've always wanted to make software products that genuinely help people. However you ever notice how the most popular internet products feed on the worst parts of us like addiction, need for dopamine, instant gratification, etc.? Thats because people wil…	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/10/21 05:13 AM
3	What's the debate? The 80/20 rule is true and its a cold world out there Probably the only thing that can be done is the work of working on improving yourself, like focus on self. You're not completely helpless either. I'd say most important is inner game, followed by improving your fashion and fitness	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/10/21 05:04 AM
3	What's the debate? The 80/20 rule is true and its a cold world out there They're all interesting spectrums There are ugly truths in the red pill philosophy, and thats why its red pill because it's eye opening. Now, ideally one would navigate the world with the knowledge in mind but not let it completely disillusion them	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/10/21 05:02 AM
1	What's the debate? The 80/20 rule is true and its a cold world out there I don't think there's any solution that would solve the large scale problem or phenomena, it just is what it is, particularly as it deals with human instinct I think the only solution there is is an individual one like what I described	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/10/21 04:54 AM
1	women on ppd: "wOmeN DO nOT fIND 80% of MeN t0 bE uNaTTraCtiVE tHAT'S jUST a myTH PeRPETUAtED By meN ON reddiT": also women on reddit: That's the cold harsh reality of the world, you guys just starting to realize?	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/10/21 04:22 AM
3	Age, body count, and # of kids for women are the equivalent of height, face, and dick size for men in terms of effect on one's dating prospects I dunno man shes always been known to be an industry slut, where'd you hear this sex only in relationship thing from? Lol. Anyways I don't care about her but its funny this is the first time I've heard someone claim she wasn't a ho. Edit: Even bow wow claim he smashed her LOL	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/09/21 03:25 AM
3	Age, body count, and # of kids for women are the equivalent of height, face, and dick size for men in terms of effect on one's dating prospects Bro why do you act like you know all the people she slept with lol, theres several people here alone that you haven't mentioned https://www.capitalfm.com/news/celebrity/kardashian/kim-kardashian-boyfriend-husband-ray-j-kanye-west/, not to mention any guys she might've hooked up with separately. There's ton of other people who claimed to have slept with Kim K	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/09/21 03:10 AM
2	Age, body count, and # of kids for women are the equivalent of height, face, and dick size for men in terms of effect on one's dating prospects Kim K was a slut but the rest you said was spot on	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/09/21 01:48 AM