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This is absolutely the right answer. I want to but can't is a totally different rejection from I just don't want to.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/26 06:51 PM
0

Still no example I see.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/25 09:30 AM
0

Your answer is no, then, you don't have an example. Thanks for clarifying.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/25 06:44 AM
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I don't know what sort of conspiracy theory crap you've been following, but Everyone discounts what he said Categorically bullshit Even if he has 24/7 live streamed footage he would still be falsely convicted WTF? Do you have an example of this, or is it just your paranoia on overdrive??
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/25 08:42 PM
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guilty of defamation Absolutely not. The presumption in law is "innocent until proven guilty". Not being found guilty does NOT mean being found to be innocent, it means that they can't be certain beyond reasonable doubt of guilt, which is a very high threshold.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/25 08:39 PM
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Over the years, I've become absolutely certain that false rape accusations are obscenely rare. Like, you have to be a serious sort of evil psycho to do that, and what's even the point? Even accusers who secure a conviction end up with a massive stigma that they can't shift, likely ever. But do you know what is really common? Being assaulted and then not being believed.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/25 08:38 PM
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Yes... That's the point. They're hypocrites, because they don't apply the standards they want to apply to women to themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/25 09:21 AM

Circumcision is not a healthcare decision. It's a cosmetic surgery at best, mutilation at worst. No circumcision advocate is sincerely interested in the "health benefits", because everyone knows it's grasping bullshit.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/24 08:52 PM

I didn't say the penis is removed. I said the foreskin was. I have literally never discussed circumcision with a supporter who didn't jump around the topic and misdirect constantly... It's so disappointing to find yet another.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/24 08:39 PM

I'm glad you agree that it's based entirely on a cultural "tradition", rather than medical evidence, although that's not what you argued before. If you're going to preach intellectual honesty, please stop moving the goalposts :) 70% of American men, it doesn't change my point in the slightest Yes it does, entirely. It's not a worldwide phenomenon, it's an American obsession pushed by Dr Kellogg. The only reason Type 1a FGM will land you in prison and circumcision does not, is that one is traditi…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/24 08:37 PM
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Infants don't have bodily autonomy, not when it comes to medical decisions. Circumcision is not a medical procedure. There is not a single medical authority that recommends it. 70% of men What? You know there's a world outside America, right? ETA Mutilation: The meaning of MUTILATION is an act or instance of destroying, removing, or severely damaging a limb or other body part of a person. Removing the foreskin fits the definition above. I'm sorry you don't like it, but it's the correct descripti…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/24 08:28 PM
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You know that women are often part of the patriarchy too, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/24 08:19 PM
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It's simply not as big of a deal as people want it to be. While I absolutely agree that you are looking at it to reassure yourself that there is little actual harm, and I think it's likely that it's true that people can be perfectly satisfied without a foreskin... It is undeniably a violation of bodily autonomy. It is mutilation. Whether you think the results of the mutilation without consent are a big deal (and I'm honestly glad for survivors that it's relatively minor), the idea that this rend…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/24 08:17 PM
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What I said is well established in psychology Citation needed.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/24 09:20 AM
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70s-90s TV has trained me to recognise it No, it hasn't. If you think it's not there, you're part of the problem. How can you sit there telling women their lived experiences aren't real and continue to claim you aren't a misogynist?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/24 06:36 AM
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I don't see men like that. That's because you're not a fucking woman. How is that a difficult thing to understand? JFC.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/24 10:31 PM
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Ugly men do not get lynched or dragged down the road behind a cart.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/24 10:38 PM
4

Perhaps you could be clear about what you mean by "losing half", and why that only applies to men.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/24 01:35 PM
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You have no idea what's happened in their marriages, only listened to bitter divorced men, who are most likely divorced for a reason.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/24 12:02 PM
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For men this results in losing half. That's not how divorce works. You may not understand this as a woman. You don't appear to understand it either, yet are confidently incorrect and misogynistic about it too.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/24 10:54 AM
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The moment you start asserting that the female sex drive "evolved" from very recent societal behaviour is where your argument completely falls down. The vast majority of women love high-quality sex. They don't love the strings attached to it. It's exactly the same as for men, except the strings are different.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/24 10:18 AM
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Female behaviour is easily explained. Sex is high risk for women: - Pregnancy - Disease (for both) - Societal slut-shaming - Massive physical power imbalance Men in many societies are not raised to become good partners. Men in most societies are not motivated to or educated in how to pleasure women. I think of the sex scene for women less of drowning in an ocean, but visiting a banquet where there is the odd cake on the table, surrounded by plates of dogshit with cyanide in 1% of them. You're no…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/24 09:56 AM
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ME NEITHER! Oh hang on, no one asked me did they?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/24 08:31 AM

Absolutely not.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/24 07:11 AM

Thanks :)
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/24 08:06 PM

Just an anecdotal counter- we waited and are still together after 20y. Though we only waited for PiV, did pretty much everything else before so it probably doesn't really count lol
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/24 08:01 PM
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borderline autistic Please don't use that as a pejorative.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/24 12:43 PM

Ah, dO yOuR rEsUrCh, of course.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/24 09:54 AM

if a man does it he's a pig but if a woman does it it's understandable Not only was OP's take not gendered, the idea that women cheating is accepted by society more than men's is completely backwards.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/24 09:02 AM
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change out the little plastic figures on top Haven't you noticed that literally every set available is a blonde woman and dark haired man? We spent ages some years ago trying to find one the other way around and never found one. I suspect they're all made by the same person, every single one in the world.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/24 08:37 AM

So many get cheated on If you take a purely statistical view of your spouse and still don't understand why that's offensive then there are bigger problems here.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/24 01:57 PM

the stigma shouldn't be there It's literally an admission that you can't trust the mother of your child and actively suspect her of cheating. I don't see how that's ever going to be ok.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/24 01:14 PM

Well, yes, it doesn't follow that all women with kids are the best, but the best are very likely to end up with them :)
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/24 08:41 AM

It also fails to recognise that above-average early 20s women often end up with kids because, well, they're above-average, so having kids as a deal-breaker means you miss out on all of the best women. It's so short sighted.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/24 08:34 AM
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I'm pretty sure you and I have different opinions of what we mean by "berate". In my experience, yelling at anyone is socially unacceptable.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/24 01:04 PM
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it's almost never seen From your outside viewpoint, if you don't believe women I guess.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/24 12:39 PM
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It is socially acceptable to berate women. Just talk to any woman you've ever met, she'll have several stories of being berated in the previous few days.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/24 12:20 PM

Have you ever seen a woman try to piss her name into the snow? Rule 34 applies, as always. I send you're not being sincere with this comment.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/24 09:50 AM
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Haha, my wife and I have both decided that although we kinda like dogs, we will never own one again. Cats and kids for us.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/24 08:35 AM
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What if you definitely don't want a dog in your life?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/24 10:06 PM
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It's not "withholding sex". The lack of respect shown destroys her attraction and drive.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/24 01:01 AM
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Part of the legal test for rape is also whether he reasonably believed that she consented. The bar is so high for conviction that it does not happen unless it's obvious that there was no consent and he couldn't have reasonably assumed it. You can't just get someone flung in jail because you change your mind afterwards, that's not how it works and is a misogynistic myth.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/24 01:00 AM
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You need a shoe rack nearer to the door. That stops stupid arguments such as this. Whether you have a rack or not, you can't expect your wife to tidy your shoes away for you however and not feel like a bangmaid.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/24 12:55 AM
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Jail, parenting, absolutely the same thing...
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/23 07:01 PM
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trust but verify Love that- KGB quote isn't it?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/23 10:19 PM
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she's given up what she's trying to protect You have some seriously warped ideas about women.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/23 11:54 PM
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if you're a self respecting straight man you'd have to have brain damage to accept that Your view of "normal" and "healthy" are very strange indeed. You should really work on that.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/23 02:25 PM
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I'd rather be raped in prison Really unsure about your claim to be mentally healthy.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/23 02:15 PM
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I think that sex itself is impossible to detach from the rest of the "experience" of partnership though, really. It's hard to enjoy when you have worries, but I certainly find that my drive absolutely tanks when I'm stressed over something. I can easily imagine that if there are issues in your relationship then enjoying intimacy is difficult.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/23 06:23 PM
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a woman may never experience sexual pleasure the way a man does. I'm pretty sure my wife gets more sexual pleasure than I do- she can orgasm for solid minutes if I don't stop. No way could I do that! They may not have quite the same raw huge sex drive a lot of the time- it's interesting to hear trans men talk about how shocked they often are when they start taking testosterone about the intensity of the drive, even when they had a high libido as woman, but that's not the same as pleasure.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/23 05:43 PM
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modern feminism is mysandrist That's just simply untrue.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/23 05:39 PM

Given the redpill obsession with "What do you bring to the table", it's astonishing that they often can't work this out.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/23 11:42 AM
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It does sound like a cool idea. Realistically a 35yo couple could use it until menopause then I guess.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/23 05:41 PM
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How could anyone rely on something for "10-15 years" that could silently fail in that window??
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/23 05:29 PM

I guess you've missed all those comparisons to the homeless being supported into housing?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/23 06:48 AM

I've heard this a few times before, but I'm given to understand that their disability grants (which are of the same kind given in most countries) are simply cash given to be spent as the disabled person wants. That means, every country with legal prostitution (UK for example) effectively does the same.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/23 09:20 PM

Yes, the number of times on here you see people expecting it to be made a "right" without consideration of how that "right" would be provided for!
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/23 04:54 PM

I would say that's a complete misunderstanding of how evolution works.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/23 07:31 AM

It doesn't really have to be about being hard wired. Sex and relationships are riskier for women, so they need to be more careful, and act on their urges less readily.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/23 06:13 AM

It's not about having a thin skin, it's about being ignorant. Making ignorant comments about those with disabilities is as unacceptable as racism.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/23 11:56 AM

They very often give incredibly "good" first impressions, because they are charming, and while identifying victims have a way of making you feel immediately "included" so you identify them as the friendly approachable one... Which means that they're the one you're going to try hardest to please. They usually appear oddly generous at first. Then you get sucked in!
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/23 10:33 AM
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You know absolutely zilch about autism. Please stop generalising and making such ignorant comments.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/23 10:11 AM
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Good bucks in STEM? Hmmm.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/23 09:39 AM
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It's only a net benefit if you're a psychopath.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/23 06:49 AM
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Since he's clearly not a misogynist, he's likely to have a better experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/23 11:19 AM
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You're outed as sucking in bed, it seems...
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/23 02:17 PM
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Most women suck at sex. Based on? giving a woman any kind of criticism Don't criticise then, discuss.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/23 11:38 AM
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most overly used words on Reddit I can imagine you are used to people calling out your straw man arguments all the time then. You think a comparatively wealthy incel should be prioritised in the same way as a homeless person?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/23 12:13 PM
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No, I've already explained why it's a straw man, you're desperately trying to insist that your argument has validity despite relying on a logical fallacy. Once a straw man is demonstrated, you must replace it or your argument is dead.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/23 07:31 AM
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It's a stupid and incomparable analogy, so your whole argument fails.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/23 08:36 PM
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Women have categorically ruled any other options out Surely you had some in mind to say that? Or are you just trying to blame women for life facts?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/23 10:15 PM
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What other options?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/23 09:46 PM
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Homeless people are poor almost by definition. That's not necessarily the case for those who struggle with dating, so the comparison is a straw man.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/23 09:45 PM
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contrary to the bullshit you'll read on twoX Ah, so glad a man has come to tell us all what women's lives are really like...
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/23 09:42 PM
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There is no such thing as a deep desire that all men or women have. That includes sex, relationships, children and even food.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/23 06:31 PM
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the law requires the mother's consent for a DNA test Untrue. Anyone with parental responsibility can DNA test their child.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/23 07:19 PM
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If you don't say any of the things listed in the post, then you are not in that category. There are no special personality traits that "women" find attractive, but there sure as hell are many that are universally unattractive to anyone with a healthy mind.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/22 07:39 PM
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Lol, this argument is so pathetic. Anyone can give anyone a house. Are you expecting the state to assign you a living breathing woman who is forced to sleep with you?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/22 07:27 PM
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Perhaps you should try living on the streets for a while- murder, starvation and hypothermia are just a fantastic partner experience you know. Make a holiday of it?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/22 07:17 PM
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The post is quite obviously showing that men who say things such as the quotes at the top clearly think like that. I don't feel lumped together, because I wouldn't say these things, therefore not all men are lumped together. Read the post again.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/22 07:15 PM
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A house is not a person though, so it's an absurd straw man.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/22 07:08 PM
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You just can't take your incredibly narrow experience and extrapolate it over all men and women.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/22 07:05 PM
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It's great to have a natural filter of shallow people to be honest.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/22 04:31 PM
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Focusing pretty much entirely on looks is a pretty good indicator of low self esteem.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/22 09:05 AM
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No, it's really not.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/22 06:58 PM
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What is this incel crap, seriously?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/22 06:56 PM
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Excuse me, but I'm not the one making things up here. The claim is that men protect unrelated women through instinct, with zero references or valid reasoning. It's not for me to prove that it's not- so I reject your shifting the burden of proof.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/22 06:19 PM
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No, that's post-hoc reasoning. Instinct is to protect YOUR family and children, not unrelated people.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/22 06:12 PM
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That's social convention, not instinct. Gorillas murder each others' children you know. That's instinct.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/22 06:05 PM
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She means, he should have been dating himself from 18-20, not cradle snatching.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/22 05:52 PM
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Nope. I'm unrecognisable from the me in my 20s thank God. We can all learn from past mistakes- and it seems that you actually have enough self-awareness that it is not in fact women who are at fault for being wary of you, so use it to fix yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/22 01:32 PM
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They absolutely do. Get some friends who will give you honest feedback.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/22 01:21 PM
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Introverts are not necessarily misogynists.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/22 01:12 PM
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It's never too late. And I'm definitely not charismatic and smooth. No one needs to be perfect, but misogyny is a huge turnoff.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/22 01:01 PM
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Thanks dude! I don't think I'm above average. I am friends with a lot of women though, so I definitely hear about people who think they're average, right up until they open their mouths. It's painful to face your faults, but you can fix them and need to unless you want to remain bitter and alone.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/22 12:54 PM
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Ah, do you think I'm a woman?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/22 12:49 PM
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No, it's because your attitude sucks. It's hard to get candid feedback from people, but women don't chase more attractive men for the sake of it- if they actually find a decent partner they'll stay. Perhaps you just disagree with them on what a decent partner is, but you need to find out what you're doing wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/22 12:44 PM
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Either you're not as "average" as you think, or you put them off in other ways, most likely by being a misogynist. The fact that you blame women for your dating woes kind of makes me lean towards the latter.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/22 12:36 PM
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It amazes me that you inferred that from what I wrote.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/22 12:33 PM
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Don't tar everyone with your experience. From this conversation alone, I can assure you it's not your looks that women find unappealing.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/22 12:28 PM
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That's again completely untrue. It's attitude, not looks for men mostly anyway. Focus on something you can actually work on.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/22 12:22 PM
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This is simply incel talk.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/22 12:15 PM
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This is completely untrue and unfounded. If your experience is that women in your league are not attracted to you at all, then perhaps consider the possibility that they're not in your league.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/22 12:15 PM
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Without attraction it's nothing to most people, men and women.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/22 12:13 PM
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I await your link to an example case with baited breath. Never mind that in many jurisdictions rape physically can't be performed by a woman...
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/22 11:27 AM
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People love to make broad statements like this. Prosecutions happen when the victim is paralytic, not tipsy.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/22 11:26 AM
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the most neurotic woman Go on, tell me one thing that counts as SA that you think would be unreasonable.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/22 11:23 AM
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No crime can be reasonably shown to have happened in that scenario.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/22 11:21 AM
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"Legally". Source: Trust me, dude.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/22 11:20 AM
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BMI is total bullshit for men and women, so don't go cherrypicking like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/22 08:40 AM
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Or, not trying to be nasty, but perhaps you're overestimating your desirability? It's not about looks by the way.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/22 08:24 AM
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Women can easily find ~intimacy~ substandard and unsatisfying sex with someone they find unattractive at great personal risk and social cost. Fixed that for you!
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/22 08:21 AM
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You didn't read at all what I wrote.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/22 07:03 AM
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Sex drive and desire is not enjoyment. Read what I wrote.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/22 07:02 AM
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Honestly, I do actually think you should wait for that. Unless it's worked for you in the past?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/22 01:34 AM
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I'm so sorry that you've had experiences that made you bitter. We work hard on communication and are well aware of the dangers of familiarity breeding contempt. We both work to "chase" each other as though we're still trying to catch and pin the other down, and never take anything for granted. It's actually fun to do, and has been for the past 18 years.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/22 01:28 AM
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Have a look at this one too- he really thinks women don't want sex and simply use it to reward and punish men, lol. https://www.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/zn08th/why_is_sex_as_a_reward_seen_as_a_bad_thing/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=android_app&utm_name=androidcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/22 01:18 AM
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Bit of a leap there. Avoid marriage unless you actually respect each other, is better advice.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/22 01:12 AM
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No, you have a disconnect in your reasoning. ENJOYING is not the same as DESIRING. Have you any idea how many different hormones are interacting with each other in these decisions?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/22 01:11 AM
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Only if you let them. It's tempting if they dangle it in front of you, of course, but short term "gain" (if you think being used and trained like a dog is a turn-on...) simply reinforces that it's a good idea.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/22 01:09 AM
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Your argument is as circular as it is misinformed. Where do you get the idea that women don't enjoy sex as much as men do?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/22 01:07 AM
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It is a biological impossibility for women to physically crave sex with the same frequency as a man Citation needed. Also false- refractory periods are usually shorter for many women so they're often "ready to go" again fairly quickly. Never heard of multiple orgasms?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/22 01:06 AM
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I don't know what to say, other than that's definitely not a healthy relationship. Sex is never a reward or a bribe, and if you ever get a whiff of that then you should shut it down immediately.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/22 01:00 AM
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Women DO like sex as much as men. They get frustrated from not having it too, but they often aren't satisfied by JUST sex with anyone (and to be honest, I can't imagine many men are either, I certainly wouldn't be). The difference is that desperate men are too focussed on empty sex without thinking about all of the good things that should also come with it.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/22 12:53 AM
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Either you've never been in a LTR or you are a terrible partner. That's the only way you could come to that conclusion.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/22 12:50 AM
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I'll go a bit further and suggest that the want for one has to be pretty explicit. Otherwise, just don't.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/22 12:46 AM
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Easier to achieve with PIV sex, yes. That doesn't mean getting women off is harder, you sometimes just need decent toys...
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/22 08:53 PM
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How is it obviously that? What are they doing?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/22 07:39 AM
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Fine. Please elucidate on your "class" statement.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/22 06:14 PM
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Way too vague. There were not three dots, there were three separate reasons.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/22 05:59 PM
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You've included only part of my quote thus misrepresenting it, given that there were three of many that I listed. How do you see it being used?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/22 04:16 PM
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Or, you could just give us a study to back up your "biological fact" assertion.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/22 11:49 AM
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Presenting unscientific stereotypes is misogyny. Presenting them as biology is additionally ignorant.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/22 11:14 PM
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women often cannot separate the two Many well adjusted men also will not separate the two. Leave out the misogyny.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/22 08:58 PM
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Oh dude, you haven't found out about Josephine's hobbies?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/22 08:44 PM
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I think you're talking hypothetically, to be honest, and it obviously depends on the subjects involved. I guess if someone were so attractive as to be able to take his pick wherever, then playing games at the library is less likely to be a thing, right? Makes it seem more likely that he's genuine. It's still intrusive behaviour, but she might look past that, she might not. I guess akin to the hot/crazy scale there could be a hot/creepy scale. At the end of the day, no one should be creepy. Just …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/22 05:33 PM
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I can't really speak for women, no one can, but anyone with a shred of empathy should be able to understand that the idea that women are "fair game" everywhere they go is wrong. There are places where women might go if they are open to being asked out. Simply existing at a bus stop, working or reading in the library are obviously not places like that. Just leave them the hell alone and go to a nightclub, online dating, or widen your social circle.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/22 05:16 PM
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Because it is so commonly used by men as a cover to pretend they share an interest that it's impossible to tell whether it's genuine or not. So they get creep vibes.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/22 05:05 PM
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Depends. Who is the author? Like, if a woman is a fan of Douglas Adams, for example, she's like almost certainly less than 10% of his fans and is likely to have loads of men hit on her with that reason. If it's another author, I dunno, Jodi Picoult, maybe that's different. Conversely, a female reader of Adams approaching a male reader is so unusual that it would be exciting, rather than tedious. Or perhaps a male genuine reader of Picoult, I dunno. Thing is, this is also an easy "game" that some…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/22 04:29 PM
-1

I've been an eye witness to multiple times someone tries to respectfully ask out a friend of mine. Either you haven't been witness to all of their interactions, or it's their first time they've ever met. If the former, you have no idea what they've based that opinion on. If it's the latter, then yes, randomly approaching women to ask them out is creepy.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/22 04:09 PM
-2

Please listen, fellow man. Women do not call most men creeps. It is a term reserved for people who inappropriately sexualise normal conversations, try to isolate women so they can extract dates from them, or those who mistake friendliness for an invitation to a relationship. If you find that what you think is "male sexuality" appears to make people think you're a creep, then you definitely have the wrong idea about male sexuality.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/22 03:26 PM
1

That's because with that sort of "pre-nup" (ugh), why get married in the first place? You don't pick and choose, demand perks and dodge responsibility.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/22 12:01 AM
3

Do you recognise that in respecting others, you also acknowledge that people have different boundaries from you?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/22 11:31 PM
3

So don't you think that staring at their shape instead of their face is just a tad disrespectful?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/22 11:04 PM
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I don't care what they want They simply want to be respected as human beings. Do you not want the same thing?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/22 10:40 PM
1

Yes. Mental, behavioural OR neurodevelopmental disorders. Do you understand the meaning of the word OR? It means that they are distinct.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/22 07:44 PM
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I'm a man, so you can listen to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/22 06:12 PM
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Men can see it, it's obvious when someone is a creep. It's just that many will ignore the signs because it's not them that's the target, but you can bet they wouldn't be introducing them to their sister.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/22 02:41 PM
2

Yeah, I'm over 30, and I still disagree that ten years of unhappiness is a bad trade. Even if they do, if the wealthy man can't work out their motives then they really aren't marrying for good reasons. If a 50yo rich guy doesn't wonder why a 21 year old chick is really fawning over him then he's delusional. They know full well what they are getting themselves into.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/22 02:21 PM
2

u/Mr_Makak, just to help you work out whether to pay attention to this comment, it may have been written by a woman, but this man here fully commends it to you 👍
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/22 02:15 PM
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I'm getting creep and misogynist vibes from you just reading this to be honest...
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/22 01:45 PM
2

Sure, it only costs ten years (and according to many on here the only good years) of her life... This is just misogyny.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/22 01:41 PM
11

Do you really not understand the difference between looking and ogling?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/22 12:58 PM
10

[Not a woman]. Respectfully, stop declaring how men feel naturally and recognise that it's one of your character flaws that you are trying to excuse not working on. If you turn it off for family members, you can easily turn it off when you're in a relationship or at work.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/22 12:56 PM
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Yes, and that does not happen. Assets owned before marriage are not counted in divorce proceedings as marital assets. If you dispute that, I'm going to need an example and explanation.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/22 12:54 PM
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You're going to need a reference for that, because you are right now just displaying total ignorance on what mental illness and autism are. There is no debate over whether it is or not- it is a simple fact that autism is not a mental illness.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/22 10:49 AM
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Women have LESS money after divorcing, unless they're being financially abused. My wife and I both have access to 100% of our shared assets right now. If we divorce, however much she is awarded, it's still less than 100%.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/22 10:46 AM
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Thing is, the 50% of them fail because of neglect. It's not as though you get married and flip a coin over whether it'll work, you both make conscious decisions on how to keep it alive. Sadly it does happen where divorces are entirely one sided I'm sure, but if both of you agree on the fundamentals (kids, for example) and are happy to compromise on other things then it can work, of course.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/22 08:45 AM
1

What qualifies you to dismiss literally every medical source on this?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/22 08:40 AM
2

Best of luck dude- you know it's never too late, and no one is ever too old.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/22 12:02 AM
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I think people take their marriages for granted far too often. Some people also never service their cars and are amazed when they stop working because the oil has turned to gunge too :)
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/22 11:56 PM
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That's the problem I see with redpill- it encourages emotional abuse of women like this that can only possibly be effective in the short term. Sure, you can go out and find another to cannibalise, but you're not going to be attractive for long enough to keep it up when others actually managed to keep their marriages happy later in life!
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/22 11:35 PM
2

Autism is categorically not a mental health condition, it's a spectrum of developmental disorders. The distinction is extremely important.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/22 11:29 PM
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Autistic vs confident One of the most ignorant and offensive comments I've seen in a while.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/22 11:28 PM
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The misogyny is obvious here, and explains how you are so bitter over divorce settlements- robbed, lol. I fundamentally disagree with you that her contribution was worthless, and so did the judge. No conspiracy here.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/22 07:52 PM
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She jointly took on all of the business risk when he started to build Amazon. She literally helped to build the company from the ground up until... She stepped back from THEIR (not his) company to raise THEIR children. And you think 4% represents her screwing him over?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/22 06:59 PM
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Trouble is with family courts, is that the hearings are private and you only ever hear one side.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/22 04:13 PM
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No, this is all speculation and hearsay without actual examples. Edit: If you're going to downvote, Redditiquette expects that you explain why- so far no satisfactory example has been given here.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/22 02:33 PM
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People love to talk about how the court is always out to screw men over, but I've never seen or heard of a convincing case of this happening.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/22 01:55 PM
2

Yes... And BDSM doesn't always include all of those things for everyone- someone who is LGBT is not L G B and T, are they? Yes, domination does sometimes come with violence, but the idea that women like "the violent stuff" is a misconception and oversimplification.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/22 09:35 AM
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The idea that spouses "steal" their partner's income is a myth. Court ordered sharing applies where the partner has helped the other to earn in a substantial way, and therefore rightly deserves a slice of that. Otherwise, the choice is, remain miserable or be destitute.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/22 09:01 AM
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Raises hand as another demisexual man.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/22 10:28 PM
3

Domination is not necessarily violent.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/22 09:23 PM
1

Can we please just clear one thing up- paedophilia is not a kink.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/22 09:23 PM
1

So many incels on here it's unreal. Wish they'd just ban them instead of removing individual content- sometimes they even have a massive giveaway in their flair!
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/22 09:10 PM
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You should see our kids though... Amazing as they are!
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/22 07:34 PM
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I'm absolutely neurodivergent. The answer is to find an also neurodivergent woman (or have one find you...)
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/22 07:15 PM
2

Ayn Rand is not a good role model.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/22 09:58 AM
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Why is it sexist to point out women's general preference? Because there is no such thing as "women's general preference". It's entirely how women are still conditioned by society, because they listen to people saying things exactly such as that which you're saying here. Let's say I'm a scientist Which you are not, so you it's understandable that you don't appreciate how your "observable fact" is a gross oversimplication- it is post-hoc reasoning with far too many assumptions that you can't corre…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/22 06:20 PM
1

Remind us all please what this lucrative sector is, and how women outearn men in it?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/22 06:35 PM
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You did not name a lucrative sector.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/22 05:42 PM
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This conversation is now just circular. You have a chip on your shoulder about men not being encouraged into lucrative sectors where they are underrepresented, but you can't name any of them. If you simply object in principle, then I really don't think anyone has any time for that sort of narrow mindedness.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/22 05:27 PM
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They do.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/22 11:25 AM
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This person stabbed me in the back... The government did this... Racism sucks... Men get treated like this... This is more like being a victim, to be honest rather than opening up about emotions. Listening to most of the "Men get treated like this..." I can't imagine is great for a woman either, with the way they usually are treated.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/22 08:50 AM
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You haven't shown any privilege.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/22 08:42 AM
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Why would you think women don't want sex?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/22 11:41 PM
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Why are you just ignoring people who have flat out answered your question?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/22 11:39 PM
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I think you're using a straw man- we should help minorities, not the already privileged.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/22 11:38 PM
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My privilege? Why do you think I'm a woman?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/22 10:07 PM
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OP is still posting like mad but pointedly ignoring the two comments I responded with. Seems he doesn't actually want a discussion at all, with anyone who can prove him wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/22 08:50 PM
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I couldn't afford the house I live in on my own. I see and directly interact with my awesome kids every day, and my amazing wife is brilliant company all of the time, intelligent and witty, pretty much always DTF, and has an appetite for mixing things up in that way, to put it mildly. I can think of literally nothing I'd get from dropping monogamy. Nothing at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/22 07:21 PM
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INFO: Have you ever had genuine desire from the same woman for an extended period? Not a personal attack, just wondering what you're basing this on. It never gets old for me. (To address the STIs part; herpes, HIV, hepatitis B and C are all problematic. Especially for the latter ones, any treatment has serious side effects, so writing off STIs claiming that modern medicine deals with them all is so dangerously irresponsible it beggars belief).
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/22 07:15 PM
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Erm, TwoX is categorically not dedicated to dating!
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/22 06:55 PM
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I am telling the truth on this- I am a science teacher and have read extensively on this, as well as wide experience with children of all ages, including my own daughters, both of whom are maths obsessed. I'm not accusing you of malice here, but the casual sexism shown and accepted in society is deeply harmful- when people make assertions as you have, that scientists have studied extensively and never once been able to support, then it's small wonder that women find the idea of going into (for e…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/22 06:32 PM
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Dude, I've taught literally thousands of children- please don't give me your anecdotal experience and claim it to be better than mine thank you. The stereotypes arise because I can see how parents talk to kids, how groups pressure each other- it's all culture, not nature. You have absolutely no basis for your statement that women are inherently less interested in mechanics other than your experience of dealing with a small number of them. Yesterday there was a careers event at the school I work …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/22 02:15 PM
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As a teacher of physics, I can tell you that's bullshit. Girls love it just as much as boys do. What they really don't want is to spend years as the only woman around creepy men who view them as their easiest option. I know for a fact that many girls I have taught have only picked physics because they know of another girl who is also doing it, and wouldn't have done so otherwise. Kids are generally great, but I've seen firsthand a class scare off a potential student literally by having absolutel…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/22 01:47 PM
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Alt left Lol, that's the most hilarious thing I've seen all week. Going into a trans sub and answering posts that were absolutely not asking for your opinion is trolling.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/22 11:36 AM
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I don't mind a debate. It's never going to go well when it's with someone who follows trans subreddits purely to troll however and refers to human women as "females". It's worth noting that incel content is banned here, unlike feminism or what you call "the woke left".
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/22 11:12 AM
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Check his flair- there is no arguing with an incel.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/22 08:20 AM
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Well, yes, it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/22 07:37 AM
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I mean, it's in one of your posts... https://www.reddit.com/r/transplant/comments/txzsmr/transplants_are_not_a_gift_they_are_a_deal_with/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=android_app&utm_name=androidcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button Edit: And now you've blocked me... But not before insulting my comprehension skills while ignoring your spectacularly ambiguous language.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/22 10:36 PM
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Dude, aren't you like 17? A bit early to be so bitter and angry, isn't it?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/22 10:31 PM
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Men did not evolve separately from women, and stoicism is not a genetic trait, it is learned. Please stop with this absolute rubbish.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/22 10:22 PM
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Um, all of it is relevant. Pay gap, hostile environment, lack of opportunities, all of these things are important. You are so desperate to find something to hate women about that you don't even know which fields you want to inject more men into, or why you'd want to do that!
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/22 10:10 PM
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I guess you obviously know far better than me how to "deal with" women, so I'll let you hold on to that. Good night!
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/22 10:09 PM
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You can continue to assert "biological facts" and extrapolate to apply them to all animals, but that just shows that you're the one without a grasp of science. Studies have never been able to support that conclusion while excluding sociological reasons- many different cultures show different results which indicates environmental variation is key to this. Here's a friendly tip by the way- don't try to tell someone that they obviously don't have a grasp of something when you have no clue about the…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/22 10:07 PM
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Different is not the same as inequal. But you've said so much that makes it painfully obvious that you don't respect women, so I'll let you read back over it and wish you luck in your future dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/22 10:00 PM
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They make choices to avoid going into workplaces where weirdos call them "females", because that sort of crap is unwelcoming and demeaning. People like you and with your attitude are exactly why they don't "make better choices".
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/22 09:59 PM
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Women are not equal to men [...] if a woman mistreats me and treats me like shit Lol. My wife is awesome, thank you. No mistreatment here at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/22 09:56 PM
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No, you're just spouting pseudoscientific misogynist nonsense here.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/22 09:53 PM
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*Veterinarian. For someone who is supposed to be a scientist, you take an incredibly superficial view of what gender equality entails. https://www.vetxinternational.com/male-vs-female-veterinarians-how-the-sexes-compare-in-veterinary-care/ Why are you going to this physics event, anyway?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/22 09:52 PM
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Sigh. I asked you to find a lucrative field dominated by women, and you failed. You then said even if it is lower paid, that shouldn't matter. How is that not acknowledging a pay gap?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/22 09:45 PM
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Yeah, no, you're just obviously a misogynist. Keep your "standards", and best of luck finding a woman with zero self respect. Or, have a think about your prejudice and sexist views, and perhaps that'll make you less repellant. Call it shaming if you like, but it's clearly the reason you have failed at so many relationships. Why otherwise? Are you just that bad at picking partners?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/22 09:44 PM
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Um... There's a world of difference between a strong woman and a shit personality. The very fact you're saying that makes me think they weren't the problem in your past relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/22 09:20 PM
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Who has ever said that women aren't expected to behave well in a relationship?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/22 08:39 PM
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So, you're happy with the idea that people doing important jobs are paid less, because they're women? All of these initiatives are about addressing the gender pay gap. I'm glad you acknowledge that it exists, but it's a shame that you don't think it's a problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/22 08:37 PM
2

This is simply pure conjecture.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/22 08:36 PM
1

Please explain how slut shaming is 100% logical?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/22 07:28 PM
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Liberation is freedom- it's literally a synonym. No one wants a deadbeat partner for logical reasons. Slut shaming however is neither universal nor logical- it is simply prejudice.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/22 07:02 PM
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you don't go into physics for the money There is tonnes of money available for physicists. https://www.prospects.ac.uk/careers-advice/what-can-i-do-with-my-degree/physics Which lucrative jobs can you do with animal science in which men are underrepresented?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/22 06:59 PM
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It doesn't matter which definition I use, it's still a shitty and invalid comparison.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/22 06:55 PM
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Are you now comparing sexual liberation with being a deadbeat?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/22 06:34 PM
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I don't dispute that these conferences may not exist. I do dispute that they are necessary, however. Please name one lucrative and prestigious field that men miss out on, and would therefore be a good candidate. You only need to name one.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/22 06:33 PM
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Why won't you answer my question?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/22 06:24 PM
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Please name one of these fields? And give the average salary for someone working in one?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/22 06:17 PM
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In real life I have never met People don't usually point things out like that in real life, usually because the inevitable tantrum like the one you're throwing here is amplified. They just talk behind your back about what a creepy misogynist you are and avoid conversations with you. Science has suffered for a very long time with a hugely unwelcoming and misogynist culture. Seeing as you probably work in science given your attendance at this conference, you would be an excellent example of the ki…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/22 06:07 PM
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I'm not triggered, but saying "men and females" is an obvious incel signature, so I'm advising you that it's a great way to make people write you off. Are you denying that women are underrepresented in physics? Where would you like to see more men?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/22 05:45 PM
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a female Don't call them that. I do blame society, yes. Both sexes struggle, but what you don't seem to understand is that misogyny harms men and women. When someone makes something better for women, that benefits men as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/22 05:27 PM
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I'm not really sure I buy this, to be honest. If I'm making suggestions to a woman, I encourage sympathy for the man and suggest things she can do. If I make suggestions to a man, I encourage sympathy for the woman, and suggest things he can do. I mean, I could say, "Women, am I right?"-- would that make you happier with my comment? I think it would be less helpful.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/22 05:12 PM
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Orgasm faking is a consequence of body shaming though- it's bad for women too. It's because the faker lacks the confidence to say what it is that she wants, which is tragic.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/22 04:40 PM
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But dude... STIs?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/22 10:13 PM
2

I'd never have asked for a submissive wife. However, my wife has been on and off badgering me about taking full control since we got together 18 years ago, and we're almost in a place now where that's now the reality. Not going to lie, it's amazing. I feel as though I have to make the right call all the time, so it is hard work; I always try to make sure I'm making decisions on what's best for us, but it definitely seems to work to both of our advantage now. We're incredibly content with it.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/22 09:15 PM
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Demisexuality is a thing. I can't imagine enjoying sex with a stranger or acquaintance, or probably even worse a friend. If you need an emotional connection to enjoy sex, you're not unusual at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/22 06:05 PM
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A feminine woman in that sense is absolutely not a doormat. She still expects to be cared for and will not respect a man who does not respect her.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/22 05:11 PM
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I mean, if you can't see the difference between homelessness for men and women I don't really know what to say to you. Perhaps you should open/volunteer at a men's homeless shelter if you feel strongly about that? Or do you just want to take things away from women instead?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/22 07:41 AM
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Being a homeless woman is a 100% guarantee to be raped within a couple of days. It's not the same as for men.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/22 07:13 AM
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Neither do you.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/22 12:37 PM
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Right, but that doesn't make you one of the sex workers, or "us".
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/22 05:09 AM
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You can't get in other people's heads, make assumptions and tell them how they feel about things. You just can't. Just because you don't understand it, doesn't make them wrong. You can be against sex work and acknowledge that masturbation and sex are not equivalent- do you want to debate and persuade or just make ignorant comments to hurt people?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/22 05:57 PM
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Are you really still insisting that masturbation is equivalent to sex?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/22 03:51 PM
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... and leave us women alone. Are you a sex worker then?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/22 01:56 PM
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Your problem is, you are claiming that all women think the way you do, and using highly divisive language. I don't think you realise that actually, I agree with a lot of what you're saying here, I'm just taking issue with some of your terrible arguments because they just detract from your message. Stick to facts, stop extrapolating and generalising and people might take what you say more seriously, because to be honest reading a lot of what you've said to me alone is just cringeworthy.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/22 01:14 PM
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Thing is, I don't actually disagree with her core belief of sex work being wrong, but she's too caught up in venom spitting hatred to even understand the point... Lol, wonder where the downvote came from!
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/22 01:00 PM
1

So you were wrong earlier too, when you said that?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/22 08:47 AM
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You're in the wrong thread. Unless it's a personal attack, in which case, see 2. I've never defended the sex work industry. By the way... You are not a sex worker (I assume), so "us women" is not valid. Unless someone is trying to pay you for sex?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/22 08:46 AM
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Yes, I know some women... So, yes, people. Can you stop incorrectly correcting me and get back to the point, which is that masturbation is simply not the same thing?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/22 08:40 AM
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I simply pointed out your scientific error. I can see you're extremely angry, and I'm sure you have experience to justify it, but you are just making word salad at the moment.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/22 08:39 AM
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I asked for a quote- those are not my comments. Perhaps you're reading someone else's and attributing them to me? The third one is a paraphrase, and that's true and I stand by it. I don't support prostitution personally, but it's possible to argue against something without ignorantly belittling people.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/22 08:37 AM
1

Quote please?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/22 08:31 AM
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I don't think I said that at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/22 08:05 AM
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I see you're incorrectly correcting me while acknowledging that you're wrong with your correction. Does that mean you concede the point?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/22 08:02 AM
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The biological imperative actually supports women having sex with as many men as possible when she’s fertile in order for the genetically superior sperm to emerge a clear winner. False. The biological imperative in humans is for the woman to be choosy about whom she couples with- better or more sperm cells does not equal a higher quality child. Sperm competition is why chimps have much larger testes than humans - that is actually how it works for them.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/22 08:00 AM
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Everything you are saying is pure speculation, and fails at the first logical hurdle, which is that it doesn't explain why people spend large sums of money on something "they can just get from their hand".
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/22 07:55 AM
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She's a sex boss, not a sex worker.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/22 06:11 AM
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It's pretty tragic to see people assert that masturbation even remotely approaches sex. Just says something strong about their experiences really.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/22 06:09 AM
1

Stretchiness is negatively correlated with breakage rates. So you're now arguing that stretchier is better, so therefore polyisoprene is better according to that. Perhaps a source would help better with your assertion.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/22 07:10 AM
2

So... Don't use oil based lube? It's the same rule as latex. Your assertion that it's less effective is purely based on the fact that it's stretchier, which is no basis at all. Just drop the excuses and wear one.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/22 06:02 AM
1

Now ask me why I know about polyisopropylene ;)
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/22 10:22 PM
5

Skyn Elite aren't latex.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/22 10:09 PM
2

Have a look at the new polyisopropylene ones, they're incredible- basically just like latex but without the allergens. That's if you're interested of course- Durex does some (sensitive or something I think, gold box) and all of the Mates Skyn series.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/22 09:20 PM
0

It's funny. For much of our relationship I was pretty deferential towards my spouse- treating her with respect and all... But she didn't want that at all. But the thing is, depending on whom you're with, if you really do take the leadership role, suddenly you make all the decisions. It's tough, on the downside, I have to make all the decisions. On the upside however, I now decide pretty much everything. Yes, I do mean everything.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/22 09:19 PM
7

I'm sure I'm patronising... But that really sounds like a latex allergy. My wife is the same.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/22 08:49 PM
8

I don't see what's not to like about a condom personally. Skyn Elite ones barely even feel like they're there- just enough to make you last a little bit longer... If it makes you take a while then finishing with a handjob is always fun. I don't get why anyone would refuse to work within the bounds of consent that are there.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/22 08:47 PM
8

A predator is still a human with real emotions, and even some good intentions. Dehumanising the term "predator" excludes those you describe, which actually is unhelpful, because a predator is indeed what they are.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/22 05:08 PM
2

Haha, fair enough, perhaps I'm just old these days. My wife playfully mocks me for not being up to it sometimes.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/22 05:25 PM
2

Nah, even with raging hormones, we all think we want it, but you should see how it feels on Day 3, let alone Day 5.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/22 02:13 PM
3

Hahaha, it's not because it hurts anyone's feelings, it's because it's bullshit. No, truth is not subjective to anyone with a brain at all- stop making up shit and claiming it to be fact.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/22 06:42 AM
3

So, it's pure conjecture presented as fact then.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/22 06:26 AM
9

1) "Deep down they like it"- I'm sure you have a source for that assertion? 2) Well, that's just totally false. Where are you getting this information from?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/22 06:21 PM
2

You have literally replied to two women telling them that they actually want Chads.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/22 06:09 PM
5

That's literally incel talk.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/22 05:50 PM
1

So I guess you just cherrypick the figures you want, got it. The fact that the CDC didn't define MTP as rape is because legally it isn't.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/22 06:40 AM
1

Yes, and the CDC report on Page 4 makes no such claim: https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/pdf/ss/ss6308.pdf
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/22 07:29 PM
1

Where do you get your figures about made to penetrate?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/22 03:08 PM
0

Yeah, you're in denial. It's not debate if you stick your fingers in your ears when someone brings out awkward facts.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/22 09:31 PM
-1

You're demonstrably wrong about the justice system being set up to favour women. https://cmsac.org/facts-and-statistics/ One in five women in the USA are thought to have been the victim of rape. Have you considered how insane that number is? You think it's "feminist bullshit" to be outraged that pretty much none of this has any consequence for the attacker? You can raise the occasional high profile case of a wealthy white man crying over a bit of his wealth that his wife helped him to build bein…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/22 09:19 PM
1

Ahhh, mind games :(
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/22 08:06 AM
1

Yes. Can't be solved unless men stop assuming that friendly = romantically interested.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/22 12:13 PM
1

I don't feel disgusted by masturbation or sex. Why would you?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/22 08:18 AM
0

I imagine that many women just get irritated when men think that being friendly is an invitation to be asked out. If they get the impression that a guy is just going to hit on every girl who talks to them then I can see that they might want some distance from that guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/22 08:17 AM
4

Come on... Just ask him! You rejected him, he's not going to ask you again. It doesn't have to be a big deal if he says no- you're already ok with watching him date others you say.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/22 07:31 AM
8

You can't prove the rarity of something other than by lack of proof of it being common. Burden of proof is on you.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/22 07:28 AM
3

You had a horrible experience and your parents have been poor role models. That doesn't mean marriage is a bad idea- those who think it's bad are just embittered.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/22 10:02 AM
0

That's why the metaphor is stupid. Plentiful high quality partners do not exist. If you can't find someone to make you overall happier, why would you settle? I certainly wouldn't make myself unhappy just so that I had a partner. There are so many variables to consider.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/22 09:14 PM
-1

It's not demanding vegan food. It's hoping to find food that doesn't taste like shit and make you violently ill.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/22 08:53 PM
4

Where they're properly respected as people, for starters.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/22 07:46 PM
3

You might find they have different ideas on what a "decent relationship" is.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/22 07:20 PM
2

Well, if they are focussed on just that, yes it will.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/22 07:09 PM
5

I don't actually think they can get relationships easily. Sure, they could pick up a shitty one really easily, but getting a decent one is just as hard (if not harder).
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/22 07:08 PM
14

Silly woman. Listen to the man tell you what love is to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/22 07:07 PM
1

I didn't argue over the age effect at all, but I'm simply objecting to you making a false claim (FASD), aggressively insulting those who call you out on it and claim to be an expert, while putting up sources that don't support your claim. If you're going to be sanctimonious, you also need to be right.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/22 04:33 PM
2

Oh look, more foolish sexism. I'm not angry about anything, but you are arguing incredibly badly, which is my point.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/22 02:47 PM
0

"Similar to FASD" is explicitly not FASD. Why are you being so dishonest? And "Man up" is a misogynist and toxic term.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/22 02:45 PM
3

Not really, just a decision we took. It's much easier when you're mid teenagers to plan your lives together. If it hadn't worked out for us, I certainly wouldn't have gone virgin hunting.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/22 10:03 AM
2

I'll point out once again that that paper does not say it can. Please, do us all a favour and actually read it properly.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/22 05:36 AM
3

I'm pretty certain that you have edited your original comment to make it look that way. Besides, you are still holding onto the FAS falsehood, which demonstrates fairly well that you in fact are not well informed.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/22 05:35 AM
10

Both of us took each other's virginity shortly after marriage 11 years ago. It's lovely to think about and occasionally remind each other of, but it's absolutely not a big deal in the slightest.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/22 09:34 PM
2

I don't think you know what mansplaining means. This is a discussion in which you are being shown that your claims simply aren't correct. If you were an expert in this, then yes, it would be mansplaining, but what you're doing is attacking those who disagree with you solely for being a man, which is just sexist. If you'd read that study you've linked properly, you'll see that absolutely nowhere does it even imply that fathers drinking at the time of conception can cause FAS. You are simply wrong…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/22 09:52 AM
1

It may contribute to birth defects, perhaps, but it absolutely does not cause FAS.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/22 09:46 AM
12

Or just maybe, not everyone is the same as you.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/22 10:20 PM
1

Without an accusation of cheating, there is no need for a paternity test.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/22 11:33 AM
7

Temporary emotional damage? A paternity test is a hard accusation of cheating. This does and has blown up marriages, because it's a declaration that you don't trust your wife. "I don't trust you." You don't think that's a big deal or based in reality?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/22 08:16 AM
0

Informed consent?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/22 08:04 AM
2

Thanks dude, you too!
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/22 10:53 PM
2

"Converse like a chick". Should I just agree with you to be manly?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/22 10:49 PM
3

Ah, I see. Only you get to speak for all men.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/22 10:44 PM
3

I agree because I jump on my wife literally any time it suits us, which is several times a week when her pain condition allows us. We have two children, she has stretch marks galore and a caesarean scar from both... And is an amazing mother and wife. She is the most attractive woman on the whole planet to me, gentle and kind to everyone and a complete whore in bed. And I'm certain that anyone who knows her would be a bit shocked at the stuff we do. I'll admit that anal is off limits (both of us …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/22 10:35 PM
1

Haha, it's the wrong place too to tell a silly little woman that her view doesn't matter too, but nice try.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/22 10:23 PM
4

Well, you say she can't speak for men, because she isn't one. Would it help if I rewrote everything she said? Would you take it more seriously?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/22 10:15 PM
0

Haha, what? Have YOU even been to "Europe"?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/22 09:50 PM
8

I'm a man and I 100% agree with her. Is that helpful?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/22 09:48 PM
2

Yup, exactly our experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/22 09:46 PM
4

Lol, give the kiddies a decent bedtime and you're fine. Once they're older, well... They know what loving adults do for fun. They can put earphones in if they don't want to listen.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/22 09:45 PM
1

Profound.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/22 06:49 AM
3

Almost every man? Doubtful. Even getting some once a week is equal to or better than most single guys, to be honest. It's harder when she's always around, so you feel rejected, but that's more psychological. 2-3 times a week is a lot of rejections if you want to initiate every night, but it's tonnes of sex if you think about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/22 05:32 AM
36

Usually it's a bad experience of a relationship coupled with their peers also having bad experiences, leading them to decide that it's simply not worth it.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/22 10:01 PM
1

If you have time and inclination, that's not a bad idea.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/22 09:05 AM
17

Do you hear your own words? "I don't want to have a relationship until I've made sure she's right." "Waaah, she won't have sex with me while I decide she's 'good enough' for me."
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/22 08:21 AM
1

Using a time machine, or kidnapping one?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/22 07:32 AM
2

Enjoy it while it lasts.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/22 06:58 PM
1

That's what you think makes a HVM? Lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/22 06:34 PM
1

That's not vague at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/22 05:25 PM
1

What makes you so valuable?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/22 05:02 PM
1

Do you need to insult disabled people to make a point?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/22 02:52 PM
0

Isn't that entirely the point of red pill?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/22 02:52 PM
1

Perhaps she's starting to realise that talk about "knowing her place" isn't actually a healthy relationship to be in?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/22 12:52 PM
1

Haha, because the RPers here are desperate for a 20 year old with a toddler...
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/22 08:02 AM
3

Aimed at older women, I think. That kind of stereotype needs to die, because it's actually really really bad for women.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/22 08:04 PM
3

Good for you, that's awesome!
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/22 07:47 PM
5

It really is tough out there. Trouble is, the moment you get angry about how tough it is the game is over for you. Do yourself a favour, don't listen to the lonely nutjobs with magic formulae... Be yourself, be awesome and be patient. (If you can get a very close friend to identify any off-putting weirdnesses though that'll help massively. Everyone has them.)
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/22 07:42 PM
3

Stop thinking about it- it's visible a mile off when people do things to influence perception people have of them. Also, make sure you don't rate people either. You're going to be surrounded here by people who tell you that being yourself is absolutely not how to get women interested in you... And in a way they're right. There isn't a way to "get women interested" in you. All anyone wants in a serious relationship is to be able to be honest with each other. Laugh, have fun, relax.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/22 07:39 PM
3

Perhaps you should think long and hard about how you could reconcile them. Seriously.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/22 07:35 PM
2

Isn't it disappointing? I don't know why I join loony groups to find out what makes them tick, but it's always the same - delusions, refusal to discuss anything honestly and total lack of reflection. It's exactly like the Flat Earthers.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/22 07:33 PM
2

You (and I apparently!) are just silly women with girly opinions that are wrong. We need to learn our place.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/22 07:20 PM
1

I'm not trolling. I'm waiting for a simple explanation as to why self respecting men are allowed FWB, but only with non self respecting women. The answer is, you're a misogynist.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/22 07:04 PM
2

That's a pretty feminist viewpoint, interesting.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/22 07:03 PM
1

It's utterly pathetic that you think you can assume the gender of the person you're talking to by what they say. Do you know any women in real life?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/22 06:57 PM
0

Er, no, all 20 year olds are little kids. This is why 20 year olds should date 20 year olds.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/22 06:54 PM
1

Why do you say "you"? Do you think I'm a woman?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/22 06:51 PM
1

Lol, we got together 18 years ago and married as virgins after seven, but if I were to do my time again and were looking right now, I really really would not care about something as trivial as n-count. How can experience ever be a bad thing?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/22 06:51 PM
3

Indeed- it's no way to build a life together.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/22 06:48 PM
6

Why would my gender make a difference to my opinion? I've put a beard on my avatar to help you whether to take my opinion seriously in future 👍
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/22 06:46 PM
9

Why are you saying "we", as though you speak for me as well? Perhaps I'm just weird in that I find women my age more sexually attractive than little children.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/22 06:33 PM
1

Ah, and you speak for HVMs then, do you? Surely a "HVM" respects women as people.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/22 06:26 PM
1

You know, you can't just go around telling everyone you're high value and make up bullshit reasons for your "standards". Dunning-Kruger effect here for HVMs it would appear.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/22 06:25 PM
0

I'm not really sure how anyone gets off on sleeping with a 20 year old when they're 30+. 20 year olds are still little kids.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/22 06:19 PM
0

Usually 20 year olds are naive enough to put up with their shit, that's why.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/22 06:09 PM
12

It amazes me how many strangers here are so desperate to "protect" you from him.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/22 05:50 PM
1

Do you think women don't ever want sex?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/22 05:38 PM
2

So what?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/22 05:37 PM
3

"Women who are FWB have no self respect because women with self respect don't want that". Your argument is circular.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/22 05:36 PM
2

Yet another irrelevant and tangential analogy. Why can't you just say what you mean, in simple terms, instead of trying to dress it up in some foolish comparison?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/22 05:34 PM
2

So why do women have no self respect if they would take on a FWB?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/22 05:30 PM
1

Knows her place, lol. And you think women online lack self respect?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/22 03:56 PM
2

Yeah, that doesn't actually mean anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/22 03:55 PM
5

You haven't answered any of my questions. Do you actually believe what you're saying or are you just sticking your fingers in your ears? Show your girlfriend this thread and see what she thinks.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/22 02:11 PM
6

Your argument is circular. "Women who sleep around have no self respect, because they have no self respect.". Do you think women don't enjoy sex or something?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/22 01:58 PM
4

That's really not relevant to the "self respect" now, is it? Or anything, actually.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/22 01:52 PM
1

I'm sorry, it's 'entitled' to expect your monogamous partner to keep to that? It's 'entitled' to protect yourself from STDs?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/22 01:46 PM
3

The obvious and stupid metaphor, yes. Newsflash: Each vagina doesn't have a specific penis designed to fit it.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/22 01:44 PM
13

Please explain your obvious reasons?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/22 12:40 PM
21

So clearly you have no self respect.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/22 11:50 AM
16

Hey, come on, at least let him out himself explicitly! Although now it'll be great to watch him do some mental gymnastics.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/22 11:32 AM
12

Would you have FWBs?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/22 11:11 AM
5

Would you accept being a FWB?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/22 11:01 AM
1

Have to agree there. What a ridiculous combination!
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/22 07:40 AM
5

She is, it's an advert for a premium Snapchat.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/22 07:38 AM
1

You have it backwards.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/22 05:51 AM
1

Ah, the old "university of life" argument. You clearly aren't familiar with feminism if you think they approve of the term "birthing person"...
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/22 10:34 PM
7

I must have misread where you said that one woman feeling differently from some other women you've read about was mystifying to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/22 10:25 PM
3

That's... Not what anyone said 🙄
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/22 10:16 PM
9

It's an interesting thing, sexuality. From your own viewpoint it's literally impossible to put yourself anywhere else and properly imagine how it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/22 09:34 PM
1

Because I don't let children call me "mate"?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/22 04:47 PM
9

I don't think that's what she's saying. I read it as, red flags do prove her wrong, but she doesn't go into relationships believing that she's about to date a scumbag.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/22 04:17 PM
3

There are many, many women who get raped and murdered all over the world after acting on their urges. It's bizarre that you don't consider this. Women control them because their life depends on it.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/22 03:10 PM
4

Have you not considered that women have similar reasoning?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/22 09:14 AM
2

I'm sure you can pull a study (and not on chickens) to show this then?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/22 09:13 AM
8

Have a look at his "ironclad rules" for starters: https://keystothecastillo.com/the-most-honest-review-of-the-andrew-tate-phd-course/ When they say "hard work", they actually mean "Drop your morals and scruples so you can socially isolate and control your woman".
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/22 08:49 AM
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Yes, because when it doesn't work out for them because, you know, his methods are moronic, they are just told that they didn't work hard enough. It's always how these things work.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/22 08:38 AM
1

Would you believe me if I told you I might be a teacher in Britain? :)
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/22 06:39 PM
2

Ugh, I hate that. And "mate". It's "Sir" or my name.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/22 11:37 AM
2

Where do you get these average assertions?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/22 07:29 AM
3

How could enthusiasm dampen when you have an awesome partner?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/22 02:28 PM
2

Men and women both crave intimacy - it's not all about sex. Toys and dolls just don't work for men in the same way- of course I can't speak for all men, but look at the market for sex toys.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/22 06:30 AM
4

I can absolutely imagine that suicide is an option considered by men with a high sex drive and no outlet. Have you not seen the repeated terror acts by incels ending in suicide? They do this already.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/22 06:18 AM
8

Not being able to find a partner is absolutely not the same as state mandated sterilisation, so take your straw man elsewhere.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/22 06:15 AM
2

It's not doubling down to take an eye for an eye, it's pointing out why these people are unsuccessful in relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/22 06:13 AM
1

If you look at data without interrogating it, then of course in a superficial way you can claim it's correct. For it to have any validity, you have to challenge inherent biases in the questions being asked, as well as how much society places value on particular characteristics. You really can't just put a graph up and say, I'm right, you can't argue with me.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/22 07:14 PM
1

Well, I quite agree, which is why I always call "Don't rush!". But being British, whoever I hold the door for runs anyway and apologises for holding me up.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/22 01:58 PM
2

Yeah, there are some seriously crazy men in here. It's hilarious how the people who bitch and whine about women being 'picky' are the same ones who say that women get themselves into shit relationships with abusive men! I think the premise of this sub, while perhaps laudable actually just exposes the insanity of both sides where they shout at each other without listening. Incidentally, it's not a fact unless you have figures or a reference, it's a hypothesis without any base.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/22 01:52 PM
1

No one knows what happens in Britain if you don't hold a door for them. Well, if you don't, it's mortifying and you apologise a thousand times. And if you do, you apologise for making them jog. I dunno, she was rude for sure, but he was inconsiderate by watching her run. Sounds as though it was a longish way- I can understand her being pissed off!
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/22 01:49 PM
0

Yes, I understood what you wrote. I also reminded you that you don't speak for all women, or even most, or even any other than you.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/22 01:36 PM
1

Ok, that was pretty funny- it's a shame humour often doesn't carry.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/22 01:19 PM
2

You do definitely seem a very angry person. It's very kind of you to call me a unicorn though!
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/22 01:14 PM
0

Baseless generalisation. You may not want it much, but many women do. Not everyone is the same.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/22 01:03 PM
1

No, he can't speak for most. I haven't landed any man incidentally, sorry to disappoint you.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/22 12:46 PM
2

All he had to do to show chivalry was to say, "Don't rush!" and smile. If he stood silently watching her jog because she felt obliged then I'd agree that he could have done better. Try being British- you surreptitiously check over your shoulder before opening a door so you can start the "Should I hold it" calculations as early as possible.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/22 08:25 AM
3

That theory has really been all but debunked. The differences aren't anywhere near as stark as you make out, and it's mainly based on interests rather than inherent ability. Anecdotally I also don't see this variability as a schoolteacher of over a decade- distribution of male and female pupils among all ability sets is mixed. Sometimes (I teach science) you can get girl heavy groups, other times boy heavy. There is a difference in further study but I'd say there are more boys pushed into it who…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/22 08:21 AM
2

Alternatively, friends and social circles often recognise abuse when it happens. Women talk because they know it's common to be trapped and not realise it, and they want to check things are right.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/22 08:11 AM
3

You don't speak for women. Your preferences are your own.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/22 08:08 AM
6

You can't speak for all men.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/22 07:51 AM
6

You have a rather stereotypical view. Wander over to r/deadbedrooms and you see just as many women struggling with it. Perhaps you're asexual, perhaps demisexual, but don't assume that "men like sex and women don't", because that's simply not true.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/22 07:50 AM
1

How many other animals get to discuss their nature on Reddit, for example? Any observations based on this sub are simply confirmation bias.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/22 07:21 PM
1

But they don't. At all. If you look at our closest relations (chimpanzees) both sexes are wildly promiscuous and they live in big troupes, which also doesn't support your theory. That's why looking at animal behaviour to understand our own is flawed- not all are the same. Let's not even talk about the seahorse...
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/22 06:55 PM
1

An intelligent conversation begins with a null hypothesis, and then sets about disproving it. The very fact that feminism exists is a pretty strong indicator that the biological difference argument is a red herring.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/22 06:46 PM
1

We don't make scientific assertions based on what makes a lot of sense- Aristotle's laws of mechanics were proven to be complete horseshit by Galileo millennia later; they survived for so long because they do appear to make a lot of sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/22 06:38 PM
7

That is a straw man. You are likely want someone with a matching attitude and different body.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/22 04:17 PM
1

No. In order to make such an assertion, the possibility of it being a social construct must be eliminated, which has not happened, ever. It is always armchair philosophy when people make sweeping generalisations like this and not taken seriously by any scientists.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/22 02:04 PM
1

But you're literally now saying that it's a social construct!
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/22 05:58 PM
0

You can't build all of that hypothesis on top of one biological fact. There are tonnes of women who only want one night stands, who get sterilised in their early 20s and jump from partner to partner. Equally, there are tonnes of men who have absolutely zero interest in promiscuity. You can't just lump people into boxes like that- especially without any real scientific method.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/22 05:43 PM
2

And?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/22 05:31 PM
1

What differences?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/22 05:20 PM
1

What do you base this on?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/22 02:57 PM
2

No, men who aren't useless like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/22 12:18 PM
2

I don't feel scorned. I find it pretty validating to laugh at what apparently a lot of men do. Surely reading stuff that makes you feel "above average" in their parlance should cheer them up?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/22 11:59 AM
1

From their descriptions it definitely seems that they've not had good times with many of the men they've been with. Foreplay isn't really rocket science or optional.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/22 11:25 AM
1

Just because we've had a laugh together, doesn't mean we're necessarily interested in dating each other.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/22 06:57 AM
10

That totally makes perfect sense. Thanks for clearing it up.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/22 07:58 PM
3

That's... not at all the point. The laws are such to guide us on how to behave like a civilised human being. If you start grabbing random people, you'll fairly soon be paying a dentist.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/22 07:23 PM
5

Definitely start by familiarising yourself with what is and isn't illegal, before you get out there :)
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/22 07:14 PM
1

Of course he does! Just listen to us men and you'll learn soon enough what you really want (/s lol)
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/22 07:13 PM
4

You do know he knows far more about what women want than you do, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/22 06:49 PM
15

Why do people on here think women don't want sex?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/22 06:47 PM
4

Herpes springs to mind as a common one. I mean, even without that, I'm utterly shocked that you don't think that molesting an unconscious person isn't a big deal. I suggest you read up on the Brock Turner case.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/22 06:12 PM
3

You were talking about oral sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/22 06:08 PM
5

It's not 'borderline', it is sexual assault. Molesting someone while incapable of consenting is sexual assault, especially when an STD can be involved. I am finding it hard to believe that you need this explaining to be honest.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/22 06:03 PM
10

You're factually incorrect, and the law disagrees with you. It just is sexual assault.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/22 06:01 PM
12

That's literally exactly what RP men do, except with women.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/22 05:59 PM
1

Changing passwords is not a useful security precaution. Have decent passwords (16+ alphanumeric) and use a password manager. https://www.ncsc.gov.uk/blog-post/problems-forcing-regular-password-expiry
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/22 03:04 PM
1

Well, quite. I don't think either of us is recognisable from when we first met, but definitely in a good way. Pretty lucky we met each other... But nowadays we could possibly both be catches :)
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/22 07:05 AM
1

Hm, I can definitely see from what I've written how you get that. It's been an 18 year journey, and we've helped each other. We're in such a good place now, both of us, and strive to be better for each other. As long as we both want to be better and work towards it, that's ok isn't it?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/22 06:53 AM
3

Last week after I was off on a trip for a week, she told me she's discovered that she's never "needed" me at all, but definitely "wants" me. Most wonderful thing I've ever heard! I don't think I explained well above.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/22 06:25 AM
3

My wife pushes back on stuff that hadn't even occurred to me at the time. She spent years with low self esteem from her evil mother and SSRI zombification that we ended up tolerating pretty crap behaviour from each other. Now, with several realisations in her mind... She's feisty as hell, and it's amazing. Feel like we're alive again! You're right, people change, and making your needs known works.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/22 11:27 PM
1

It's to support the kids. Because their welfare is more important than what you think you deserve.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/22 10:10 PM
3

I'd discourage anyone from something that costs insane amounts of money and risks disability. It's an individual decision for sure, but could you imagine discovering that height is actually only superficial anyway, after all that pain and expense? It sounds as though you have things sorted.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/22 06:33 PM
3

Why do you want to win? It's a stupid game to play with horrible people. Just save yourself the misery.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/22 06:04 PM
3

Vile.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/22 06:01 PM
8

Dude, 5'7" is not short enough to consider surgery. To be honest, no height is.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/22 02:20 PM
1

He was neither rich nor in possession of an iron clad 'prenup'.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/22 04:51 PM
2

Only in some people's imagination, though I suppose there was Epstein. Is that the kind of thing you're describing?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/22 02:18 PM
1

No. By making that assertion, you ignore that a so-called "right to intimacy" would mean that another person has to give up their ability to be happy with someone they would like to be with. If you pay tax, you still have plenty of money left over. If you're forced to be with someone, you don't get to make your own decisions on how to live your life.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/22 06:53 AM
1

This is the hourly reminder that SOME women mock men for being cheated on, just as SOME men mock women for being cheated on. Some of these are in both sets, many are in neither.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/22 08:48 PM
1

Well, you'd definitely need a partner then- two hands only? Sounds awful.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/22 07:30 PM
7

That's because you can't force someone to join a relationship with someone else. What do you expect?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/22 07:24 PM
10

Well, women aren't a charity you know.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/22 06:30 PM
0

I don't understand what's wrong with having standards.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/22 05:25 PM
10

That cannot be asked too many times on this sub.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/22 05:23 PM
1

Giggling excessively at things you say, playing with hair... It usually is fairly obvious. There's a huge difference between friendly and flirty.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/22 05:18 PM
1

That's very kind of you.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/22 03:34 PM
1

Please tell us more about how women designed our world.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/22 02:42 PM
4

Doesn't work like that though. I literally lose my breath when my wife disrobes, even after 19 years together. Don't feel the same way about men at all...
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/22 01:40 PM
1

It's sweet dishwater. There, corrected it for you ;)
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/22 01:38 PM
1

Well, it is. Anyone can be a jerk. Not anyone can be a bad boy. Therefore, they are not the same thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/22 04:48 PM
1

Lol, it was you who derailed it with your false statement.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/22 04:38 PM
1

I am keeping up. You said, a bad boy and a jerk are just the same thing. I said, they aren't. Keep up.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/22 04:28 PM
2

So he has gravitas, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/22 04:20 PM
1

Have you thought about the idea that maybe you're just off-putting because of the things you say?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/22 04:18 PM
2

You need some sort of gravitas to be a 'bad boy'. Someone who tries to emulate it without it is just going to be a jerk. That's just how it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/22 04:16 PM
2

Where did that figure come from?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/22 02:15 PM
1

Just to remind you, I'm happy to back up any assertions I make- ask me and I will. Then you can back up yours. Deal?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/22 06:47 PM
1

Which assertion did I make?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/22 12:26 PM
4

Who's going to pay your pension if no one has children? They are vital to a functioning society, and you appear to present them as "nice things for women to have".
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/22 12:21 PM
1

Why don't you stop trying to show how clever you are, and actually justify your position? That's how it works- assertions are challenged, and you back it up. It simply seems to the observer that you will do absolutely anything to avoid having to back up your position any further. Shall I just assume that you are basing your original essay on absolutely nothing then, or would you like to give some evidence?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/22 12:19 PM
1

Well, as women and men think so differently, then surely I'm not capable of female doublespeak without being female? By the way, you used doublespeak wrongly too ;)
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/22 12:13 PM
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Oh dear... I'm not female, but nice try. I made no assertion. The assertion that men and women think differently has not been shown to be correct, and it's perfectly legitimate for me to ask you for evidence. Otherwise, I don't even know what your argument is, other than some armchair philosophy from someone who doesn't understand how to argue. Which leads into... I didn't attack the messenger. I asked for evidence. For your reference, ad hominem doesn't necessarily invalidate an argument. It do…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/22 12:01 PM
1

Hi, 34M here, married to a 33F; we met in school aged 16 and 15, both very happy. Stop generalising.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/22 09:23 AM
0

I pointed out where the burden of proof lies. No problem with my comprehension, just calling out baseless conjecture.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/22 07:56 AM
1

Incorrectly using fancy words you don't understand. What's that a sign of?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/22 05:18 PM
1

Actually, it is. Basically, when you join a social group, keep your fucking mouth shut for a while, listen carefully, and be extremely cautious about joining in with 'banter', because that's the easiest way to embarrass yourself. People usually give others benefit of the doubt until a red flag appears, and then they often completely go off them.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/22 05:15 PM
1

Yes, there are, but they don't support any of the conclusions that are commonly extrapolated from them, such as this one.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/22 05:13 PM
1

Spectacular mental gymnastics. You lot should get together and do some actual scientific studies.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/22 12:57 AM
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What you mean is, you're extrapolating based on your prejudices, which you think proves you right. Women dislike you because you're obviously a misogynist, and it doesn't take long for it to become obvious.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/22 09:15 PM
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Nothing, he's making personal attacks on you now because you're a traitor to women. Because women are different, and he doesn't want kids, so you do. I think that's probably it?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/22 09:14 PM
6

Hey, if you're being sarcastic here, you got it right, well done! Now say it again, but this time with 'women'.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/22 08:40 PM
7

A lot of men on this sub do a far better job of ruining the appearance of men in general than any woman ever could.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/22 07:41 PM
1

Lol, hiding depravity sounds pretty stressful. I think life is easier if you have a companion you feel you can trust implicitly with your thoughts. It's very interesting- everyone's 'depravity' is different. Some prefer to think of it as kinks.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/22 06:38 PM
1

Of course you do. Why have you suddenly started downvoting? Did my question hit a nerve, or something? It's supposed to be a frank discussion place here, and I was just wondering how it would be if your father were a red pill. What's it like?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/22 03:26 PM
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It's far easier to see this sub's insanity when you actually have a wide social circle of both genders. It's actually pretty easy to see how it's all BS from this perspective. Perhaps my friends are all just elite and modern people. I often hear things from certain ones that give me pause, but not many.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/22 03:14 PM
0

I thought you'd dodge that question :) Mirrors are sometimes difficult to look in.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/22 02:46 PM
1

You have what you wanted, but does your daughter get what she needs? Do you contribute as much as the kid's mum does while you fuck around?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/22 01:47 PM
1

How much care of your daughter do you take?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/22 01:38 PM
1

So... what do you want? Are you just flexing that now you're Chad?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/22 11:51 AM
1

Well, if you take sex out of the equation, why couldn't you just find companionship with another man?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/22 11:06 AM
1

Thing is, nerdy hobbies can take over your life, which if you're trying to fill a gap is great. It's not great though if you're trying to meet people. It's not the fact that the hobby is nerdy, it's the fact that the participants usually have no time or inclination for anything else. (By the way, physics graduate here, though I know you won't think anything of that- it's widely know that we are far more fun).
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/22 10:51 AM
1

"Save millions of people from loneliness", lol. This won't make unattractive people more attractive, or more likely to get partners. It'll just result in more women being single. Forget the ethics, because you clearly just don't see why it's disgusting, it's also completely unworkable and continues to ignore the actual problem, which is that many people don't understand the idea that YOU NEED TO BE ATTRACTED to someone in order to form a relationship. You know what's a real solution? Legalise an…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/22 10:45 AM
2

Yet she doesn't want to be with you,
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/22 06:38 AM
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Yeah, that's not what I said. Approach the imaginary problem like a child, and act surprised when women don't queue up for you? Honestly.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/22 11:43 PM
0

No, you're sitting in your basement foaming at the mouth about the conspiracy that women make just against us. Why don't you actually do something with your free time and work on some self improvement, rather than this pseudo-philosophy?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/22 11:39 PM
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I don't mean physical aggression, I mean the 'strike first' mentality. It's infantile.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/22 11:25 PM
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No, it's really not about protecting yourself. That's more toddler behaviour - dressing up aggression as "self defence".
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/22 11:17 PM
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"I'll behave when I think you do" is literally a toddler attitude.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/22 11:12 PM
2

Before we even start with ethics, why the hell should it? Seriously? Like, we all pay extra tax so you can get laid without putting effort into self improvement? Are you actually serious about this idea?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/22 11:07 PM
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Beneficiary, you mean. I don't really know what to say to you that everyone else in this thread hasn't already explained. If you can't see why this is an abhorrent idea, then you need some serious help.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/22 10:53 PM
1

I'm sorry, I'm lost now. I think we're talking past each other.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/22 09:58 PM
2

You said that women who describe their partners as like this are likely lying, or am I mistaken? I think this is actually a pretty common real scenario though. I don't see why it's hard to believe.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/22 09:50 PM
3

So do you want a bangmaid or something? I'm really troubled to be honest, by your idea that a husband who gives his wife orgasms, does cleaning and stands up for her rights is a unicorn. I don't really know what to tell you- I really don't think I'm a massive catch... But I promise you I do those things. Do you think that makes me unmanly? Why do you think it's unrealistic to be like that?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/22 09:37 PM
1

No, I absolutely do understand the point. You are trying to rig the 'game' by suggesting something completely unethical. If you're "not doing that bad", why would you want this?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/22 09:09 PM
1

I'm sorry, but I refuse to believe that you have absolutely no positive qualities. If you truly don't, do you also believe that there's nothing you could work on?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/22 08:58 PM
2

Do you really like the idea of being desired solely for being scarce?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/22 08:34 PM
1

If I might give my "male perspective", your argument is based on plain generalisations.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/22 08:33 PM
3

You really can't just artificially induce a shortage of men to force desperate women into settling. Have you thought about what you might be able to offer a partner? Surely you have something about you that is attractive?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/22 07:53 PM
2

Engineering students, who work incredibly hard, are intelligent and interesting, and have a wealthy future ahead of them?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/22 07:42 PM
3

I would expect you're probably hearing the same from men in successful relationships as well. I'm afraid I don't recognise the picture you paint- there are of course angry jaded women posting, probably as many as there are angry jaded men. Both make incredibly sexist points and comments, and usually demonstrate by their lack of respect for the opposite sex exactly what makes them so unattractive. Stop imagining women as a unit- you don't like it when "they" do it to us- it's the exact same thing…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/22 07:38 PM
1

Thing is, you're arguing with people who are actually in relationships. Don't you think they're in a fairly good position to comment?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/22 07:19 PM
2

Whom are you approaching, and when?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/22 05:57 PM
3

"They" is a wide ring you've cast around all women. Start by listening and encouraging them to talk?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/22 04:54 PM
3

Well, you should actually be able to talk about something, otherwise it's not a conversation. Do you have any hobbies?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/22 04:05 PM
1

If you mean, both partners should expect something from a relationship then I guess I don't really see the problem with that.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/22 04:02 PM
1

It's not "gerrymandering" to draw a distinction between a mass shooting of random people (always with legally bought weapons) and a targetted drive by (usually with illegally sourced weapons). They are entirely different things, and are different problems.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/22 04:01 PM
1

Do you think that the only thing women get out of a relationship is money?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/22 02:43 PM
1

What are you on about? Anyone can be independent these days- have a look at SMBC groups. Most women are not after that.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/22 01:25 PM
1

Those aren't necessarily convicted- and are drive bys (which isn't a mass shooting in the same sense) included in that?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/22 01:23 PM
1

Do you have to live with them?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/22 05:32 PM
1

Obvious straw man- you don't have to live with either of those for the rest of your life.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/22 05:24 PM
1

Edit: Yet again I reply to the wrong comment, sorry :/ You will get several responses, and you can process each, and decide to accept or reject them. At the end of the day, hopefully all you'll need are hints, and the best starting point is to reflect carefully on whether you truly respect your dates as people, because that's the underlying problem if you're having the same problems each time.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/22 04:44 PM
1

But consent is an ongoing thing, that can be withdrawn. You can't claim that consenting once locks you in forever- that's just absurd. People change, you know.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/22 04:31 PM
1

I appear to have responded to the wrong comment... Sorry.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/22 04:29 PM
1

Consent to being married?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/22 04:12 PM
1

(Edit: out of place) But consent is an ongoing thing, that can be withdrawn. You can't claim that consenting once locks you in forever- that's just absurd. People change, you know.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/22 04:08 PM
1

Trapping someone in a marriage without their consent is literal abuse. I don't understand how anyone could defend it. Besides, you want to stay married to a wife who hates you? Where is your self respect?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/22 01:46 PM
3

I think embracing the incel life would mean you're no longer an incel, doesn't it?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/22 12:50 PM
1

I'm not quite sure why you think 2XC is full of privileged whines. The rants (and they do get repetitive) are about realistically shitty behaviour. I think I'd get pretty fed up if I got groped and leered at every day- I don't think equating the complaints in 2XC and incels is fair at all. In fact, I'd go out on a limb and suggest that I bet you couldn't find one that belonged in both subs by simply swapping genders.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/22 11:35 AM
1

Oh women absolutely do, but not in the same way and definitely not with the same level of threat, so I'll partially agree there. I wonder if you just haven't noticed when it happens ;). If you're aware of when it becomes inappropriate (and yes, that's something you have to genuinely evaluate fairly regularly), and are open with each other about it, then there shouldn't be an issue. Basically our position is, if you ever feel the temptation to gender swap a story or censor it to make it sound les…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/22 10:24 AM
2

Yes, but you appear to have set some of these boundaries because you don't trust people of the opposite sex (and indeed your own!) to behave as decent human beings. Porn, flirting, fine, whatever, but you paint absolutely everyone else as a predator with the "No friends of the opposite sex" rule, and it's BS.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/22 10:02 AM
2

Everything in what you write shows you acting as though she's a possession. Do you mean to come across this way?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/22 09:43 AM
1

You mean the world I experience? You should listen to yourself describing your dating experiences and think again carefully about what vibe you give off. Try to find someone neutral and tell them (or make a throwaway in a sub here somewhere) and make an honest account of your date. You'll be amazed what people are too uncomfortable to tell you.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/22 09:40 AM
2

I'm a teacher, so if I avoided socialising with women I'd have very few people to talk to. I don't really find attraction to be an issue, but then again I also don't buy the 'monkey brain' as an excuse to abdicate responsibility. I have self control, I have boundaries, I love my wife.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/22 08:42 AM
3

"My woman" has a varied friend group, as do I. Neither of us has ever expressed concern about this, because we are happily married and have no thoughts about anyone else. If you were secure, you wouldn't be worrying about the "hotdog shower".
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/22 08:06 AM
2

The first paragraph just reeks of insecurity.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/22 07:46 AM
2

That's because it's correct. If you're telling someone your dating woes and they respond with "You shouldn't use girls just to get in their pants anyway", you should think very carefully about what you've just described to them.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/22 07:42 AM
1

You're going to need a reference for that claim.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/22 06:58 AM
1

Your wife not wanting to remain married to you is not a good enough reason?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/22 06:57 AM
2

Depends really- if you promise to make children as per the Catholic vows, it does. And remember, you can't say no.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/22 07:52 PM
2

But dude, it's a contract! A contract! Now lie down and starfish for me.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/22 07:23 PM
2

Well, no it's not. Entering a marriage by choice is not at all the same as rape, so you can drop that (pretty offensive) straw man right now. It shouldn't come as a surprise to you that you have to support your children.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/22 05:34 PM
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Why do you make baseless assertions for what society as a whole considers? It is a blatantly misogynist position to accuse SAHMs of being slobs, and clearly of someone with no experience of raising children. If you and your wife are equal earners, you have nothing to fear from divorce. If you aren't, and you resented that, you should have got out years ago.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/22 05:03 PM
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Raising children is "acting like a slob"?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/22 04:22 PM
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"Are we living in the 1900s?", says the person who wants to leave those who raised children for their spouse destitute after divorce or remain in miserable marriages. I'm sorry, but you're not even reflective over your own position, so I can't continue to discuss this with you.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/22 03:58 PM
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I think that the idea that (for example) a wife of twenty years had no part to play in her husband's financial success is simply absurd. If we divorced, my wife who gave up her career to raise our children absolutely should be entitled to part of our assets. I may lose a bit of my pension but I still have my children.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/22 03:47 PM
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Yes, I believe that people should not remain trapped in unhappy marriages, and you believe they should. I didn't say our beliefs are similar- I said we are describing the same thing, except I think it's abhorrent and you think it's ideal.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/22 02:02 PM
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There's literally no difference between what you and I wrote. Your responsibility as a spouse is to keep the other happy, content and safe. If you don't, and they want to leave, that is you shirking your responsibility. You don't get to not look after your partner and wave a bit of paper in their face when they no longer want to stay with you.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/22 01:49 PM
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The kind of entitlement where you think you are entitled to imprison an unconsenting person with you forever, because 'contract'?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/22 12:50 PM
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Can we unpick that a bit? Because to me it seems that you're saying that you'd prefer to ruin your own and someone else's life for the sake of a contract. Why do you really believe that?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/22 12:29 PM
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I don't really follow this. You'd be happy to be married to a person you don't like, just for the sake of being married?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/22 07:13 AM
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You don't get it, do you? How can a wife feel submissive to a husband who expects her to work to afford anything? It's not something you can expect to compromise on, it's a whole way of life. Sending her out to work is antithetical to the whole idea.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/22 10:02 PM
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You mean she can be the live in maid and get no luxuries?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/22 06:20 PM
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I don't get it. You can't afford 100%, but you expect her to act as though you provide it?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/22 05:34 PM
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The percentage chances are over a year of doing it rather than every time, similar to the 97-99% over a year of condoms. The probability is massively higher around fertile days, and almost vanishes on infertile days. Note that I'm not trying to undermine your point, but it's important to be right on this. One in 25 (not 20) over a year is still a pretty high probability though! (Edited to add, 96% annual effectiveness means after 20 years 0.9620 = 44%- which is still crappy odds. Perhaps combine…
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