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Actually don't really squat cos i have the knees of a 60 year old with rickets, last time i tried was about 60kg which is more than what i weigh so i take it as a W, lately been hipthrusting 150kg
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/23 11:11 PM
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I train legs until failure and then walk home
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/23 10:10 PM

Even then, not always lol. Look into the stats of pregnancy and DV.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/23 08:09 PM

This is far too real. They spend so much time throwing their toys out the pram shrieking about how they're done with us, don't want to engage with us... but they can't STFU about us either.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/23 08:06 PM
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Have you ever done something just to be a nice human and not because you were obliged to?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/23 08:02 PM
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I'm childfree and really don't want children but I don't have any resentment to those with children, we just made different choices and thats fine. I'm not a fan of those who imply that my life will be meaningless and empty without children but it's my choice to let that bother me or just keep it moving, so i do the latter.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/23 08:02 PM
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Sure I would
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/23 07:57 PM
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I mean, I'm a woman so I'm pretty sure none of the women I've given a seat up for were carrying my kid. It's just nice to be nice but that doesn't seem to resonate with anyone here.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/23 07:57 PM
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You realise plenty of pregnant women work as well?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/23 03:15 PM
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Most public transport have a section specifically for pregnant/disabled people, so if you're sat there and someone asks you to move, they have priority over you. She could probably advise not to get a mortgage you have to work yourself to the bone for to pay off. Also, you're hilarious for thinking that you go back to your regular life after giving birth.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/23 02:21 PM

Probably best you don't have kids lol
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/23 02:15 PM
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Oh yeah! Some of the other comments were about "well women wanted equality now you're getting it!!" like... until men start carrying children for 9 months and giving birth, stop being an ass and just let her sit down
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/23 02:11 PM

how so "medium value"?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/23 12:19 AM

Healthy BMI for a woman goes up to 24.9 fyi, sounds like you're in the wrong circles, I know dozens of women in that description
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/23 12:14 AM

You seem charming
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/23 12:10 AM

how do you define a high value man vs high value woman
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/23 12:06 AM

I imagine my definition is likely different to others here, which is why i asked for others to use their own criteria
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/23 12:02 AM

Are there more high value men, or high value women in western society in your opinion? May be worth giving a quick rundown of what that definition means to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/23 11:57 PM

I know the evolutionary thing is about wanting the best offspring and all that jazz but that feels a bit redundant given the fact we now have birth control, abortions and a lot of women don't even want children with any man.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/23 11:54 PM

most people who cheat have little/no desire to actually leave their partner, it's about wanting to freedom/excitement of being single while having the security of a relationship aka having your cake and eating it
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/23 11:47 PM

what if the woman is still attracted to her SO but she just wanted variety and to experience something new?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/23 11:35 PM

?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/23 11:26 PM

its cringe when anyone who isnt a child does it
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/23 11:16 PM

How many men here believe its worse for women to cheat than men, or that one sided open relationships should become the norm?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/23 11:11 PM
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So men want to appear rich to attract a woman, but it’s tragic if a woman is attracted to the money?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/23 01:36 PM
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A lot of women don’t have a large collection of expensive shoes but okay. It’s a bit tragic dropping six figures on a car in the hopes a woman will think you’re rich and be more likely to sleep with you because of it. It’s funny these days how many luxury cars are financed because men are trying to look wealthier than they actually are.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/23 01:03 PM
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ASPD checks out
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/23 11:40 AM
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What if the husband divorces her though
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/23 11:31 AM

What deal would be more appropriate to you then? And what exactly would you be ‘charging for’ you’re keeping that part vague.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/23 09:31 PM

I’m just using the word tenant to clarify the logistics, it wouldn’t change the dynamic of the relationship
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/23 09:30 PM
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Rent is different to mortgage
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/23 09:05 PM

No
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/23 09:05 PM
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If she were live with you, would you charge her?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/23 09:03 PM

What’s this to do with red pill… I love that you say “charge you” like she has no say in it when it’s literally her house
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/23 09:02 PM
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I’m talking from the perspective of the property owner
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/23 08:43 PM
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She may not want to sell especially during a housing price crash, and there’s a ton of expenses or risks associated with letting out your property
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/23 08:37 PM
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Right, it’s bizarre that there’s more entitlement toward a partner than to a stranger, who you don’t think twice about ‘paying their mortgage and getting nothing back’. Obviously with a partner you’d be paying below market rate anyway so what’s the hangup.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/23 08:33 PM
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You don’t see any value in raising someone’s children? And… wow. You speak about women like that and then wonder why they don’t like you. Go figure. I question how real it even was as if I were in that situation this is the last sub I would go to.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/23 06:54 PM
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Yeah, I wouldn’t expect to live in someone’s home rent free while they paid for everything
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/23 06:38 PM
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What kind of arsehole expects to mooch off their partner?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/23 06:09 PM
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If you’re splitting the mortgage and bills, what’s not equal about that ?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/23 06:08 PM
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Men are the ones here crying about ‘divorce rape’ take your advice to them.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/23 05:51 PM
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She can get a prenup. Also a lot of mortgages have a caveat of what would happen in the event of divorce. One of my earlier jobs in finance involved going over mortgage agreements and a few couples who live together have an agreement on who would get what in the event of divorce. Assuming you didn’t have children it would be fairly easy, that’s the only potential reason you’d be able to claim more ownership if you also have custody.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/23 05:50 PM
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She can still kick you out if you’re married lol. If you’re a decent husband she wouldn’t kick you out either way.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/23 04:22 PM
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Like I clearly stated - repairs and refurbishments would be on her dime. Why are you so defensive about this?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/23 04:22 PM
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This ^ it’s like they’ve forgotten how typical renting works
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/23 04:19 PM
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In the UK you have ‘tenants in common’ where you can split exactly how much each party owns of the house. You figure out how much money each of you are putting in as a percentage, to make it’s easy say it’s 80% and 20%, so if you were to sell and make a profit, one of you would get 20% of the profit and the other would take 80%.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/23 02:41 PM
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Well then obviously you can just live in your home
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/23 02:38 PM
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Right, but that’s not the norm behaviour
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/23 02:37 PM
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A lot of men are materialistic but just in different ways. It’s fairly common for a man to have a collection of trainers that cost hundreds of dollars each or be into other types of designer clothing, watches etc. Your lord and saviour Andrew Tate constantly bragged about all of his cars and how much they cost - is that not an indicator of vanity and materialism? Yes cars are useful but the speed limits and road laws are the same for a Bugatti as they are for a Volvo, and nobody needs more than …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/23 02:26 PM
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How are you paying for everything if she paid the downpayment and half of the mortgage?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/23 01:40 PM
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This isn’t about you or the home you own
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/23 01:39 PM
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How would it change if kids were involved?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/23 01:31 PM
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Why is it different for guys?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/23 01:30 PM
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Yeah, this situation doesn’t involve coownership. Are you talking about tenants in common?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/23 12:24 PM
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It’s either that or you pay for someone else’s mortgage while they gain equity, or live with your parents I guess
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/23 12:13 PM
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What’s the problem with that?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/23 11:59 AM
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I don’t call my landlord up and demand equity for the rent I’ve paid him lol
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/23 11:59 AM
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How exactly is it authority?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/23 11:58 AM
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What do you mean by taking advantage of the price and then setting a time limit? What happens after the limit?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/23 11:57 AM
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If you’re living in someone’s home that they bought and are paying for while contributing nothing, that’s freeloading. The alternative would be for you to pay for bills, groceries and council tax to slightly level the expenses.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/23 11:11 AM
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It’s just how it works 🤷🏼‍♀️ what’s your better alternative?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/23 11:08 AM
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Even with eviction you have to give at least a months notice and there has to be a good reason like missed rent payments or destruction of property. Idk why men here think that at any given moment a landlord can just boot them out.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/23 11:06 AM
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Well if I was in the guys shoes, I know I wouldn’t be comfortable freeloading from the love of my life, I’d want to contribute something to the home I was living in with them
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/23 10:58 AM
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How come? Re the woman from a traditional culture.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/23 10:18 AM
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I think it’s fair she wouldn’t want a freeloader living in her home she’s paying for without contributing to it. So yes, although it would be stated differently.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/23 10:16 AM
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Paying for someone else’s mortgage is kind of just how it goes until you get your own place. Well she is paying below market rate as well but she put all of her own money on the down payment
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/23 10:15 AM
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Sorry should have been clearer - if you two weren’t married but serious enough you’re living together. I just meant a tenant/lodger in logistical terms, obviously you wouldn’t actually refer to your partner as a tenant
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/23 10:06 AM
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You already pay rent to a landlord. Do you expect equity in that home?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/23 10:05 AM
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I guess the dynamic would throw some people off
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/23 09:53 AM
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What’s the alternative then? It would be a relationship where she needs the mortgage paid and he gets a cheaper place to live
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/23 09:52 AM
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What would you do in that case then? If you look into the laws around it, a landlord can’t just kick a tenant out because ‘we had a fight’
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/23 09:52 AM
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I mean nobody can talk on the behalf of all women back then. I’m sure plenty of couples back then were very happy and I’m sure plenty weren’t. But given the changes in the last 50 years ago, basically since a woman could open a bank account or get birth control without her husbands permission - women do have a lot more choice in who they sleep with or marry now, we aren’t at the mercy of our husbands.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 04:07 PM
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Some definitely do, not all
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/23 04:21 PM
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Me personally, I just find it fun. I don’t wear enough I look that different with or without it. My bf sees me without makeup all the time and jokes I make more of an effort getting dolled up to see my friends than him.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/23 04:09 PM
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Yeah cos it would wreck your skin
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/23 03:55 PM

What was the point in that?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/23 12:03 AM

In the gym
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/23 11:08 PM

What, have men only discovered in the last year or so that women like muscles?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/23 11:05 PM

Birth controls kinda moot if the dad takes off after the kids been born
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/23 11:04 PM

So do deadbeat dads 🤷🏼‍♀️
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/23 11:01 PM

Sounds like a poor ROI, Tren fucks you up in so many ways and in a lot of ways makes you more unpleasant to women (aggression, paranoia)
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/23 11:01 PM

92% of men who ask for custody are granted it…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/23 10:34 PM

you’re gna upset some dudes here with that one 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/23 10:25 PM
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How is it expensive? When I dated (in a LTR now), I wasn’t spending more money than usual. 90% of the dates I went on were free as the guy paid
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/23 10:07 PM
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The main thing is most women don’t want a random guy on her doorstep for a ONS.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/23 10:06 PM
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Working out/weightlifting have a ton of health /mental health benefits outside of attracting people I weight train a lot btw, most of the people I know in there work out because it keeps them sane
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/23 10:04 PM
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How is financial health crucial for dating? Dates can be cheap. I’m a girl btw, I’m not trying to knock you down but if your post requires 3 reads to get your point through, it’s not coherent, as other commenters have pointed out.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/23 10:00 PM
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I disagree about men not giving a fuck. Men don’t notice the finer details about women’s hair, nails etc but from experience, when I am ‘done up’ aka fresh hair, nails, good makeup/outfit I get way more looks and compliments when I’m out than when I don’t have these things. So maybe men don’t care about the details but they definitely notice and appreciate the final product of the little things. Takes a lot of effort to look effortless.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/23 09:59 PM
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Yeah nothing about this post is coherent. What are you actually trying to say? You talk about dating and then veer off into how women have more upkeep and a financial disadvantage compared to men.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/23 09:56 PM

It’s the same as how we berate women with “daddy issues” and not the father that gave her those issues 🙄
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/23 09:35 PM
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75% of mothers work. How many stay at home wives are there unless they’re actual sugar babies
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/23 04:24 PM
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If she was raising children and keeping a home - that is work
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/23 04:11 PM
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I have family friends who are a couple who’ve been married over 50 years now, got together at university. The guy is an ass, to put it nicely. My dad put it like this: “he has a tendency to be a bully, she has a tendency to not get bullied”. If he had a feminine wife he would have steam rolled her, made her miserable, before getting bored and divorcing. His wife is extremely smart, successful and capable and is the one person who can get him to shut up and behave himself. I think it’s a total mi…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/23 04:03 PM
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The most sane response here
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/23 07:19 PM
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Fat people tend to eat to manage their feelings, so when they make them feel like crap… what do they think the outcome will be 🙄
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/23 02:57 PM
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This. If you’re going to be a dick, at least acknowledge that you’re being a dick. You’re not “saying it how it is” or “giving them a reality check”. Majority of fat people know full well that they’re fat.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/23 02:56 PM
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Yeah and that’s not okay of them to do, but it’s not done with the same malicious intent of a man shouting at a big girl on a night out telling her she’s a pig or “oi fatty” in front of dozens of people. You would seriously prefer that?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/23 01:00 PM
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What behaviours exactly? Enlighten me.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/23 12:53 PM
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Because the stats show that a good proportion of them aren’t in good shape. We can nickel and dime all day long about the specifics but the fact is - a lot of American men are fat. Not husky, heavy built, secretly muscular or whatever. Just fat. So it’s disingenuous to act like it’s an exclusively female issue.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/23 12:12 PM
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Women tend to have more “responsive” sex drives versus men’s “spontaneous” sex drives. That’s why in sexless relationships where the woman isn’t interested in sex, the issue is rarely the sex itself, but another need that isn’t being fulfilled. If you can understand a woman’s responsive sex drive, you’ll have a much better sex life. Women aren’t men with vaginas, we operate differently. You can stamp your feet and be mad about it, or you can take the time to learn and use to your benefit and her…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/23 11:35 AM
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Yeah, most of the comments made toward fat women fit your classification of hate. There is nothing constructive about calling big women “landwhales” and making fat jokes at their expense, which happens relentlessly.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/23 11:30 AM
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92% of men who ask for custody are granted it
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/23 11:27 AM
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Wish I could pin this Women have more solidarity and support groups because … women made them. If men want to see more body positivity, awareness for men’s issues - great! Would love to see it. But why are the putting the onus on us to make it happen? You don’t need our permission or approval, if you want to see more body positivity for men, go create it.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/23 11:08 AM
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Definitely agree with your first point. I went to New York a few years ago and was shocked by how Americans eat. The portion sizes are insane, everything tastes overwhelming but not in a good way. I had heart palpitations after some meals and couldn’t finish a single plate. Explains why so many Americans say they’re underwhelmed when they come to Europe and try our food. It just isn’t slathered in all the additives, salt and sugar they’re used to. A lot of their cities are terrible for walking s…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/23 10:05 AM
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Yeah, this isn’t about men weighing more than women
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/23 09:12 AM
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The issue remains there is no shortage of obese men in the USA. So mens complaints on the sub that they can’t attract a healthy weight woman ignores the fact that most of them aren’t in good shape either.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/23 09:10 AM
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On my phone atm sorry Yeah but be real, the men who are overweight/obese due to a lot of muscle and having a healthy BF% are outliers in stats. My bf is technically “overweight” but he has a six pack, I’m not going to use him as an example to try disprove that BMI applies to the vast majority. At that point just use common sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/23 08:38 AM
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I remember they did a social experiment to have someone wear a fat suit in public for a day and the girl doing it had a really hard time and had to cut it short. It’s funny how much presentation affects how you’re treated. People are generally pleasant to me but if I have a makeup, jewellery, nails done etc, people smile at me more, men give me their seat on the bus or make a big deal of letting me through somewhere first. It’s nice but there’s always this weird feeling of knowing they wouldn’t …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/23 07:35 AM
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As well as the fact healthcare in the USA is extortionate and it’s much harder to be insured if you’re obese (as some of the FA movement have pointed out). Not trying to get out the tin foil hat but all the medication obese people have to be on is lining someone’s pockets 🤷🏼‍♀️ so yeah there are definitely incentives to tell women that being obese is a-ok and they have no idea they’re being ridden all the way to the bank
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/23 07:28 AM
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I can still observe behavioural patterns and comment on them even if ive never been fat myself? Besides, men get shit for their weight too but it usually comes from other men.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/23 07:25 AM
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Not everywhere is as insular as the USA 🙄
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/23 07:21 AM
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There’s nuances
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/23 11:07 PM
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Just finished a cut after a holiday - getting sick of being hungry all the time so will probably bring it back up now, I was 22/23% before
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/23 11:07 PM
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Really? Because when anyone thinks of ‘body positivity’ they think of all the self serving ig posts celebrating rolls and cellulite. And that’s fine, I’m all for it, but they have completely drowned out the people who actually need the positivity
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/23 11:05 PM
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It’s more CICO than anything else I’ve managed to lose weight before while eating carbs just by eating in a deficit
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/23 10:36 PM
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Right, but that doesn’t justify the spite toward fat women. You can just keep it moving.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/23 10:26 PM
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Yes, but not very many women weight train, and fewer weight train enough to increase their BMR Also - BMR is influenced by other factors outside of our control like height.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/23 10:25 PM
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Thanks for the unsolicited advice but I’ve been weight training for five years 👌🏼
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/23 09:50 PM
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Literally just made the point women generally have a higher BF% than men because biologically we kind of have to
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/23 09:48 PM
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I have visible abs and I’m a healthy BF% 😂 they’re not a carved out six pack but that wasn’t what I was talking about
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/23 09:27 PM
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It just varies from person to person. I’m at 20% BF but I’m well within my healthy weight range because I weight train a lot.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/23 09:00 PM
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You’re right I must be blind I don’t think you realise that the threshold for being overweight is much lower than people know, especially if you have muscle
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/23 08:56 PM
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Yeah I agree with this. I just don’t think anyone deserves to be given shit because of their weight. (I know that’s not what you’re saying) But yes, the FA/BP movement is going to lead a lot of women into an early grave. It’s all fun and games when you’re 25, less so at 40.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/23 08:56 PM
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I honestly find it gross the way fat people have dominated the body positive movement, calling themselves ‘marginalised bodies’. Someone in a wheelchair literally cannot do anything about their situation. It’s not easy to lose weight, but it is relatively simple. Many disabled people would kill for that option. Again, it’s a small minority of fat people who do this but those I do I cba with.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/23 08:53 PM
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Well yeah, women have breasts, ass and hips, it’s gonna be made of fat. The healthy rage of BF% for a woman is 21% to 32%, for men it’s 8-19%. Agreed on second part.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/23 08:49 PM
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Agreed
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/23 08:14 PM
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I think the vitriol for fat women goes a little further than the fact they aren’t as able to conceive and carry children?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/23 07:43 PM
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Paraphrasing, thought the quotation marks made that clear.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/23 07:38 PM
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https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5657098/ There’s also evidence that it can lead to increased risk of birth defects And look, ofc the woman is still the one carrying the child and overall her health is more important in terms of conceiving and carrying a healthy child. Just showing that men aren’t fully exempt from this either.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/23 07:38 PM
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Who’s actually used that phrase since the 90s ahaha
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/23 07:35 PM
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I know that, but if a woman can’t get pregnant in the first place due to the fathers infertility, that’s also an issue. Medication can only do so much.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/23 07:34 PM
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I agree with this. Body positivity should be reserved for people with disabilities, life changing injuries, deformities aka anything you can’t change about yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/23 07:22 PM
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I’ve known men in real life who are overweight and out of shape wanting a slim and thin girl. I’m also willing to bet this goes for a lot of men on the sub complaining. Where have you actually seen this apart from online? Every big girl I know really struggles with self esteem and doesn’t put herself out there at all. Like I said. I don’t have an opinion on fat men, Im not attracted to them, but that doesn’t mean I think they are “piles of dirt”. Until I know their character, they’re just people…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/23 07:14 PM
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Type 2 diabetes isn’t the only metric of health, though
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/23 07:12 PM
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I mean I feel like nobody should be nasty to anyone because of their weight 🤷🏼‍♀️
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/23 07:10 PM
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https://www.hsph.harvard.edu/news/hsph-in-the-news/excess-weight-sperm-fertility/#:~:text=Obese%20men%20were%2042%20percent,likely%20to%20produce%20no%20sperm.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/23 07:07 PM
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I’m using it in quotations because that’s what men call fat women in this sub… I’m not saying it’s not a valid complaint, we’re hardwired to want someone a healthy weight. I’m just questioning the attitude men have here acting like all these women are lazy and overweight while they’re all in great shape when the stats show otherwise.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/23 07:06 PM
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It kinda depends on whether or not he weight trains. It takes a lot of muscle to get yourself into an overweight/obese BMI while maintaining a healthy BF%, those men will be outliers in the obesity statistics
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/23 07:05 PM
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Women have slower metabolisms and naturally hold a lot more body fat. I know girls who are “overweight” with abs, but they have big boobs and ass which is what adds to their weight even though they workout and eat healthy. A mans typical BMR is higher than a woman’s, meaning he can lose weight while getting to eat more.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/23 06:57 PM

Because they want the $ and green card
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/23 11:03 AM

There are as many fat men as fat women in America dude. I guess American women should move abroad to find a guy who’s in shape? FYI - not American, not fat before you come at me
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/23 11:01 AM
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Plus the fact the biggest cause of death for pregnant women is murder
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/23 02:55 PM
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It’s so funny when they say this, it’s like when little kids have a tantrum and threaten to run away from home 😂 do they expect us to be like “omg no please stay!!! we take it all back we didn’t think you’d actually go!” Boy, pack your bags and go have a wonderful life elsewhere, nobody cares.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/23 01:08 PM
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You tell me, you’re the one that likened women to hornets
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/23 01:02 PM
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If he’s not happy, what’s stopping him from leaving?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/23 12:38 PM
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Because women aren’t insects with stingers
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/23 12:38 PM
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How would a man go about doing that?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/23 12:37 PM
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I’m also on about couples I personally know where the guy doesn’t fit these “standards” and they’re a happy couple. I can use your same logic to prove that you don’t know that all of those couples are where the girl isn’t sleeping with him or doesn’t treat him well. You think only men who fit those standards have happy relationships?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/23 12:32 PM
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Do you have a source that female workers get more credit than they’re due, purely for their gender?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/23 12:11 PM
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Professionally?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/23 11:58 AM
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You don’t have to believe me, sounds like a you problem
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/23 11:32 AM
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No. Why do you keep shoving this weird narrative I’m clearly stating I don’t believe in?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/23 11:25 AM
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No, I don’t think it’s a bad thing, it just is what it is
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/23 11:22 AM
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I didn’t think all men were trash, specifically just that the men that I attracted.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/23 11:16 AM
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Do you pay your wife 250k?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/23 09:08 AM

Where did I say that
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/23 05:35 PM

So because some people endorse cheating, that makes everyone exposed to them a cheater?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/23 04:25 PM

It’s like they don’t understand promiscuity and cheating are different things 🙃
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/23 03:20 PM

Right, but your average person doesn’t think cheating is a good thing. You can have your own moral compass and not just blindly follow what some shitty media says. You’re convoluting two very different things.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/23 03:18 PM

28 is still young, it’s tougher with children granted but she has so much time. I would never get married below 25 or have kids before 30 for this very reason.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/23 02:57 PM

Wishing the very best for your friend, that sounds awful This is what I mean - there’s this misconception that women self actualise by being a wife and mother and will want for nothing once she gets this
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/23 01:58 PM

I mean cheating is regarded as a bad thing regardless of who does it, I’m not sure who you think is protecting these people. The only people I’ve seen advocate cheating is men saying it’s cool for men to cheat but not women. It’s not self improvement culture to say that if you’re overly paranoid about being cheated on, being in a relationship isn’t a good idea.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/23 01:57 PM

Even so, most dads don’t have social media so I understand why a lot of people don’t do a post for someone who isn’t going to see it lol
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/23 01:40 PM

Lol my dad doesn’t have social media, I called him and got him a gift. Didn’t realise I need to provide proof of having a good relationship with him on social media 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/23 01:31 PM

What on earth
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/23 01:01 PM

Correlation isn’t always causation
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/23 09:23 AM

I didn’t mean divorce but rather the traditional model of a SAHM and working dad. Because plenty of those couples end in divorce so it’s a sort of moot point. In most of the divorces I’ve seen, the parents relationship and ability to coparent improve after the divorce and it leads to a much less chaotic, disruptive home life. My cousin actually asked his parents to divorce because the fighting was so relentless, once they did everything was far more peaceful. But granted the may be outliers.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/23 08:43 AM

Assumptions are fine, I really don’t care if someone thinks I’ve slept with more people than I have. I don’t mind people asking if it’s relevant and not just randomly out the blue. But if it gets to the point they straight up accuse me of lying or pull out the x3 rule, yeah that’s pathetic and says a lot more about them than me.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/23 08:41 AM

Is there a source about children minimising mental illness in traditional families?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/23 08:22 AM

I’d say a SAHM does contribute to the budget as she’s saving the man extortionate costs in childcare, as well as the fact she’s raising children with their values and isn’t so burned out from work she can focus on taking care of them full time. I guess a part time job would work once they were at school but if you have 2-3 kids that would be years. But after being out of work for that long, the job options are slim.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/23 08:11 AM

I mean yeah almost everyone I know has been cheated on, it happens, but don’t be in a relationship if the trust issues are going to make you paranoid and needy. I guess it depends where on the spectrum of traditional you fall, for some it’s wanting to save themselves for marriage.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/23 08:04 AM

I agree and this isn’t about discouraging freedom of choice, in fact I think it’s more beneficial for children to have a traditional set up, but I’m just curious if in this day and age it’s beneficial for women.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/23 08:02 AM

Or if this is about a SAHD - he has the wife also contributing to the housework. Again, the proportion to SAHDs and SAHMs aren’t proportional enough to compare that data.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/23 08:00 AM

Some would say there’s a middle ground
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/23 07:53 AM
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Not really relevant to the topic
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/23 11:32 PM
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And?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/23 11:28 PM
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It just means that I don’t have an issue with any sex that goes on between consenting adults and I talk pretty openly about it where appropriate. I wouldn’t say it’s ‘my issue,’ if someone wants to decide I’m lying or make that assumption, that’s on them. I don’t mind people asking, id also be curious about someone I was wanting to start a relationship with.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/23 11:01 PM
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I’m in a LTR - this topic isn’t about me trying to attract a type of man it was just an extension of my experiences on the topic mentioned in the videos. Cheating is a completely different kettle of fish to someone’s sexual history. In my case, those bringing it up were guys I was acquaintances with/talking phase with. Idk why they asked or cared, you’ll have to ask them. Like I said I don’t do ONS and none of them knew my exes. The rest is a bit of a stretch.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/23 10:56 PM
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None of the men who accused me of lying ever had a chance in hell with me anyway 😂 I’m happy with my choices, i don’t feel the need to convince anyone of them or justify them
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/23 10:42 PM
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What exactly is behaving in a ‘chaste’ manner?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/23 10:41 PM
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Re your first point: the guys who did accuse me of lying deffo had a chronically online vibe. I also went out a lot during uni and done a fair few festivals/travelling and am very sex positive but that doesn’t change what my n count is. I dress pretty conservatively and everything’s natural so I know I don’t ‘look’ a certain type of person. I agree with the rest of your points, it’s a shame that the traditional family structure is now reserved for the very wealthy when it’s the best way to raise…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/23 10:40 PM
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What if a woman was in the ‘employed’ category but earned more than you?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/23 10:29 PM
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Your first point: I agree, but it is the reality of a lot of relationships today. Second: This is also true, but there is a lot of men who feel that financially supporting a SAHM wife is getting ripped off somehow, and don’t realise the only reason they are able to work and have a family is because of her, or not having to pay an extortionate amount for someone else to raise your children.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/23 10:27 PM
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Like the video says - how is male approval achieved when you don’t meet any men?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/23 10:24 PM
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True, but it seems a lot of men want to be modern by splitting all the expenses, having a ton of casual sex and then expecting a traditional woman and all her perks.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/23 10:08 PM

Please go outside and see the many many couples where the guy doesn’t have these traits and is with a girl
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/23 06:56 PM
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Again, I just haven’t known anyone who uses those words as an insult since I was a teen.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/23 06:32 PM
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You’re taking the semantic of the word a bit too literally
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/23 06:23 PM
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When it’s used in that context the purpose is to just insult the other - they’re rarely actually saying “you sleep with a lot of people and that’s a bad thing” Again though, maybe it’s because I’m older and I haven’t really fallen out with anyone in a very long time but calling women sluts or whores in an argument is something I only ever saw at school. Ok then to be clearer - I don’t care about the sex lives of any of my friends either. Some have a lot of casual sex, one or two are still virgin…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/23 06:13 PM

I find this view so strange. I know so many “unattractive” guys who have no issue getting ONS and relationships. Why do people here think you need to be Henry Cavil to get a second glance from a woman?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/23 05:35 PM
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Which is funny bc the states in America that preach abstinence the most have the highest teen pregnancy rate 🙃
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/23 05:33 PM
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You just take initiative - if you’ve left dirty dishes out, take 5 minutes clean them, don’t wait for me to have to ask you every time. With my bf and I, whoever doesn’t cook, cleans up after, or we do both together. On weekends we just split chores (deep cleaning, laundry) it’s not really a conversation because we both know what to do.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/23 05:27 PM
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That’s why I clarified the difference
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/23 05:26 PM
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When women do slut shame it is typically about a woman who goes after guys knowing they’re taken, cheats, sleeps with her friends ex’s etc, aka someone who hurts people with her sex life choices. It’s more about the lack of moral code around sex rather than just someone who likes to have a lot of sex, which you can do without hurting anyone. But like I said, if a woman is dragging another woman just for having sex then that’s also lame behaviour as if a man were doing it. But tbh I’ve not known …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/23 05:20 PM
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What’s that to do with slut shaming?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/23 05:17 PM
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Women who slut shame other women also have a myriad of insecurities and issues. If everyone’s consenting and of age I have 0 incentive to give a shit about other peoples sex lives, I have bigger fish to fry
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/23 05:13 PM
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thoughtful, someone who continues making an effort after the dating phase looks after themselves, in good shape, i workout a lot and wouldn’t really be suited to someone who never worked out or ate healthy self sufficient, ideally has lived away from home for a few years already so won’t expect me to be their mum/maid, I know so many couples whose partners expect to be told to do chores and I couldn’t stand that kind, good morals and values, can make me laugh and is supportive throughout good ti…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/23 05:12 PM
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Explain how that would incentivise more women to have children
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/23 03:06 PM
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Second the questions about what privileges and what issues would they solve? Not every woman can have children and some are lesbians/with women
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/23 03:03 PM
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How many actual cases are there of men being duped into financially supporting children that aren’t theirs? Seems to be a lot of men are paranoid about something that seldom happens.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/23 01:31 PM
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By that logic almost every hobby is a form of consumption
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/23 01:05 PM
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The government can’t even look up its current population, I don’t see how increasing the birth rate would do anything but increase the amount of poverty
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/23 01:00 PM
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And women don’t have financial repercussions? Look up the motherhood penalty.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/23 12:57 PM
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It’s interesting food for thought, I suppose I don’t really have any answers, especially as the USA is doing a poor job of providing for the population it already has before incentivising women to have more children
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/23 11:30 AM
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It fundamentally isn’t fair, no matter what perks you throw in there is no changing the fact that the mother has to endure childbirth and a 9 month pregnancy that permanently changes her body unless people start using incubators to grow babies or something. As well as the fact endless fathers then moan that their wife’s body doesn’t look the same and she doesn’t want sex because she’s exhausted and dealing with PPD. It’s a terrible deal all around. The only thing that makes it worth it is for th…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/23 11:15 AM
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For me and a lot of other women who don’t want children - the reason we don’t want kids is because of the declining climate. It’s bad now, it will be significantly worse in 50 years time snd that’s if nuclear war doesn’t take us out first, it is selfish to subject children to that, and no compensation package is going to change that fact. I’d rather spend my time here enjoying myself, achieving what I want to achieve and not compromising my body, career and financial security for a kid. Even wit…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/23 11:09 AM
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Yes. The funniest part is plus sized people describing themselves as ‘marginalised bodies’ when the stats show that people who are a healthy weight are actually a smaller proportion of the population. And it’s upsetting because it takes attention away from those who deserve and genuinely cannot do anything about their situation like disabled people, amputees, people with life changing injuries/deformities. Now they get called “privileged” if they managed to stay a healthy weight.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/23 09:07 AM
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What’s the issue with not carrying a purse lol
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/23 12:08 AM
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Same here, a lot of women think a few donkey kicks will get you a bubble butt when it takes a ton of weight training, eating enough and again - genetics I’d love to get super strong and muscular but I just don’t have the time/capacity to spend those hours at the gym and manage to hit my macros right. I ostensibly could, but I’d end up burning out and resenting lifting. I can deadlift 110kg + bench 40kg which I’m pretty happy about so I’ll take the W where I can 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/23 10:41 PM
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It can be for some but it isn’t for most, honestly it’s not until you get into weightlifting you realise there are no quick fixes and shortcuts unless you take steroids which have a ton of negative side effects. And it’s those with almost no knowledge of it who claim this bs. It’s as laughable as women who are scared to look “bulky” if they weight train.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/23 10:21 PM
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Can you expand on low body count? That contradicts a lot of opinions expressed here
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/23 09:51 PM
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I’m just making the point that the same number of women are putting up and allowing their husbands to be fat- so it’s not really a gendered issue
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/23 09:43 PM
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Modern men can voice their concerns if they’re worried about their wife’s health/eating habits, or just leave
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/23 09:20 PM
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Plenty of men are fat, the stats on obesity are pretty even for both genders. It has nothing to do with what they were previously “allowed” to by their partners.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/23 09:13 PM
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What does women eating what they want have to do with the modern man?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/23 09:09 PM
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I think given how much women are told to be feminine, and that our femininity is what makes us likeable and desirable- it’s understandable why a lot of women struggle to navigate when it’s less appropriate to use
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/23 08:23 PM
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Breast milk is produced in the mammary glands which doesn’t get pierced :)
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/23 07:54 PM
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The bar is much smaller than what you put in stretched earlobes and the skin being pierced is very different. I’ve seen her nipples, you’d never know they were pierced for two years, there’s not even a scar. I’ve known other girls who had the same experience taking them out.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/23 07:43 PM
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No, if you take them out they heal up within a day. My friend took her 2 year nipple piercings out for a few hours and then couldn’t get them back in. You’d take them out if you had a baby on the way cos metal in a baby’s mouth isn’t ideal. Lmao why am I being downvoted for explaining nipple piercings 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/23 07:37 PM
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forgot facial piercings were a thing for a second 😂 I have my nipples pierced and only my bf sees them and he’s a huge fan, so I think that idea is a bit of a stretch, but fair enough if you’re not into them/find them unattractive. Also, those piercings heal up almost straightaway off you take them out
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/23 07:16 PM
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Tbf not many women have that hair colour after their teens, I’d love to colour my hair lilac again but it wouldn’t be ideal for my corporate job. Most girls in their early 20+ have natural coloured hair if they’re in professional careers so fair enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/23 07:13 PM
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I agree - my friendships with men have made me far more open minded and understanding of what they go through
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/23 07:11 PM
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What does it mean “letting femininity get in the way of being a person/being feminine when it’s inappropriate”
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/23 07:07 PM
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I work in finance
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/23 06:20 PM
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I’ve never had an abortion so I’m fine either way
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/23 05:58 PM
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Well in a traditional relationship, the finances are the mans responsibility anyway 🤷🏼‍♀️ An abortion is a consequence, they’re extremely painful and uncomfortable, no woman has ever enjoyed having one
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/23 05:56 PM
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Didnt dance with other men, drank with some but didn’t get drunk, shared one bikini pic but like I say - my IG is private and only the people I know and am friends with follow me. Just bc your parents have the same values doesn’t make them healthy.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/23 05:54 PM
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Also, I need LinkedIn for my career and it’s how I got my last job, so absolutely no way would I delete it for someone ahaha
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/23 05:51 PM
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It’s not murder
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/23 05:49 PM
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Having a relationship where you’re solely focused on eachother and nothing else isn’t healthy, it leads to codependency. I understand why you weren’t happy with your ex being friends with her ex, but saying you wouldn’t let your girl travel without you is extreme. I went to Bali last year with friends, my bf knew I wasn’t going to be up to anything and wished me a great time. Didnt cheat, had a great time, all was fine 🤷🏼‍♀️
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/23 05:49 PM
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Have you been in a relationship before?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/23 05:45 PM
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I always find this idea strange. I have Instagram but my account is private and only people I know follow me. I don’t really post much apart from pics of my friends/travelling, nothing that would appeal to men. Most girls who aren’t Instagram models/wannabe Instagram models are the same.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/23 05:41 PM
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How come?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/23 05:38 PM
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Birth control, even when taken perfectly is only 99% effective. So think about 1000 women who take it perfectly (and that’s harder than you think, some pills have a 3 hour window, pills can get lost) 10 unwanted pregnancies. Sometimes other medications makes birth control less effective. Having an abortion in those scenarios is the responsible and sensible thing to do in that case.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/23 05:35 PM
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“travels, food and travelling” lol Why would prior abortion be an issue?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/23 05:24 PM
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What about a guy who’s had a lot of failed relationships/ONS/flings?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/23 05:16 PM
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It’s interesting because a lot of men here take issue with a woman who doesn’t have her life together yet wants to date a man who is career orientated
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/23 05:13 PM
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Can you expand about why the red nails/lipstick?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/23 05:04 PM
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It’s worth noting that there are more women who work in creative fields than technical so that would also skew the numbers
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/23 04:08 PM
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Since I started weight training a few years ago I definitely have a newfound respect for gym guys - gaining muscle takes TIME, especially if you’re an endomorph or someone who just has a hard time putting mass on. But yeah if you’re natty, putting muscle on takes years of hard work even with genetics on your side. I’m a woman so it’s different for me, you can see I’m “toned” but it took years of consistent weight training/hitting protein macros for a relatively mid physique lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/23 03:32 PM
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He was more just insecure that I was working toward a career, he’d dropped out school and worked part time at a warehouse. I ended it because he would always tell me to sack off whatever I was doing to go see him. Like I said he actually had more money than me as I worked at a bar and was a student but it was the attitude that killed it.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/23 03:15 PM
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Is there proof of this? Like actual peer reviewed studies and not just opinion polls? Tbh if you’re not career driven/ambitious it’s very difficult to date someone who is because you’ll feel neglected and let down whenever they don’t have the time or energy for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/23 03:04 PM
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Why do you feel women explicitly want a man who makes more than them? - let’s assume they also don’t want kids bc that’s a kind of obvious answer And yep lol, tbh I think it’s kinda cruel to have kids these days given how awful the climate crisis is and will become, my generation may just avoid the worst of it but the next one won’t
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/23 02:51 PM
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I want someone ambitious so they understand when I can’t always spend time with them or text them back straightaway. I once dated a guy with 0 ambition, he was incredibly insecure and needy if he wanted to talk/hangout and I was busy with uni work so I couldn’t. Funnily enough he actually had more money than me, but it was nothing to do with the money. I just like having someone who supports and understands my life and also having someone who I can cheer on and be proud of their achievements. It…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/23 02:30 PM
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Not really, I make way above the average salary at 23 and my bf is on about the same. Currently training to become a wealth manager. Even if he was on less, we’d still be very comfortable. Quite telling that’s the only detail you (incorrectly) picked up on.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/23 02:21 PM
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Don’t dictate what men find attractive!!! proceeds to dictate what women find attractive
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/23 10:48 AM
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Eh yes and no. I accept it’s easier for women to date and that we have more options. But I’ve always wanted someone ambitious, takes care of themselves, is kind and interesting, so I make sure I am all of those things, because those types of men aren’t the majority. I can’t expect traits in someone I myself don’t have. A few years ago I was in a very toxic relationship, I swore off dating and got therapy, threw myself into the gym, my hobbies, and my degree, spent more time with my friends, got …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/23 09:41 AM
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Because mental issues don’t give you a pass to abuse others
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/23 10:09 PM
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You’re underestimating the importance of a strong social network. I have my core circle of friends but a lot of them don’t live in my city, we all work pretty unsociable hours, if it weren’t for my bf I’d get pretty lonely as I WFH and I don’t have the time/money to travel to see my friends every weekend. Now I have friends nearby I could crash with if I got locked out, having a shit day and need a cup of tea and a moan, or just fancy some company, I feel far more integrated in my city, it’s imp…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/23 08:13 PM
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You clearly have 0 understanding of the psychology behind why people stay in abusive relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/23 08:03 PM
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The entitlement is insane
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/23 01:27 PM
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Again, I’m not saying this is every woman. But I’m sorry that happened to your brother, that’s nasty.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/23 12:14 PM
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I’m simply explaining why some women aren’t good at clearly rejecting men and will sometimes play along/be unclear about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/23 12:10 PM
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But even when class wasn’t an issue for those women, they were still blocked by their gender Plus the fact many countries in the world today women still cannot get an education solely on the basis that they’re women
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/23 12:00 PM
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Like the saying goes “men are scared of women laughing at them, women are scared of men killing them”.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/23 11:59 AM
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And again. Please enlighten me on how women should fulfil their responsibility on ending/preventing male loneliness. Since nobody can give a clear answer.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/23 11:48 AM
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Nobody’s saying that the vast majority of men do this. We’re saying that the vast majority of women have experienced a negative reaction to rejection which is why a lot of women are nervous and ambiguous when it comes to rejecting men; which is then interpreted as misleading.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/23 11:48 AM
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https://amp.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2016/sep/26/no-scrubs-how-women-had-to-fight-to-become-doctors
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/23 11:46 AM
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That’s awful, I’m so sorry that happened to you and hope you’re okay now. It’s beyond insulting that the men here deny that this happens far more often than they realise, on the basis that it’s embarrassing for the man and “they’ve personally never seen it happen” 🙄 what a sheltered life they must live.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/23 11:10 AM

Point 3? And Idk how you end up in these types of conversations on a regular basis but if you are up against someone who isn’t interested in seeing your point no matter how you phrase it, just don’t engage?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/23 08:40 AM
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If that’s your opinion on women, then you shouldn’t be that surprised when they leave you alone You also didn’t answer my question. In realistic, practical terms, how do you expect women to fulfil their duty of preventing male loneliness?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/23 08:38 AM
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https://www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/rcna55413 There’s endless stories like these but I guess if you’ve never seen it first hand, it must be false… I once had a guy hitting on me while I was waiting for my Uber after a night out, I just went ‘not interested, sorry’ he kept bugging me, following me down the road saying “think you’re too good for me Princess??” and when I told him to leave me alone, he started shouting in my face calling me a bitch. Thankfully a bouncer saw this and came over, got rid…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/23 08:25 AM
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Hasn’t a guy recently published a book called “women deserve less”? I’d say misogyny is pretty alive and well.
/r/MensRights11/06/23 08:06 AM

It’s hard you take you seriously when you spend all of your free time writing angry essays on Reddit, wondering why you are so unhappy and resentful, and thinking the answer must be anything but you and your actions. Also wtf are you on about a mans physical reactions? Are you implying that when a man assaults someone it’s someone’s else’s fault? You’ve spoken to me with far more aggression, insults and vitriol, but apparently I’m the one thats “fucked you over” and treated you horribly. Ok ahah…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/23 07:55 AM
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Yes because nothing bad has ever happened to a woman who’s rejected a man! /s
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/23 07:52 AM
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I’ve had guy friends also do this for me, safe to say they were not jealous lmao. I can’t imagine having the time to create imaginary scenarios in my head and getting incredibly wound up over them.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/23 07:50 AM
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Because men commit the vast majority of physical and sexual assault and homicide as well as having an obvious huge physical advantage over most women and were the reason women couldn’t get an education… How exactly do you propose women fulfil their responsibility of making sure men aren’t lonely?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/23 07:40 AM
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When I moved to a new city, I searched up on Facebook “girls… (city name”) and up popped a load of pages of thousands girls in my city looking to make friends. Most of these girls like myself already had friends, were in relationships, they just wanted to expand their circle and meet new people. On the page, girls talk about a certain interest they have (I joined one for hiking and sober meet-ups) and a group chat they want to make, you then comment on the post asking to be added to the group ch…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/23 07:35 AM

I guess it depends exactly what it is you’re trying to say. I’m not sure how you could expect to call women landwhales and get a positive response.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/23 07:11 AM

Because it’s rooted in misogyny, so of course the data is cherry picked to justify their beliefs. Another example is how often they quote women filing for the majority of divorces but ignoring how many marriages are ended by the man, but they seldom bother actually filing for the divorce even though the marriage is over.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/23 10:06 PM

Have you really never heard the phrase “it’s not what you say, it’s how you say it?”
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/23 09:37 PM
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What exactly is so provocative about me expressing an opinion different to yours? If that is all it takes to make you spiral like this you don’t need a subreddit, you need actual help and I genuinely hope you receive it. Cool it with the victim blaming, it’s not helping anyone.
/r/MensRights08/06/23 04:12 PM
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You seem agitated and I don’t think this is going to be resolved in a logical way. Have a good day.
/r/MensRights08/06/23 03:43 PM
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Can you be more specific? What parallels are you trying to draw between how the media portrays men vs women?
/r/MensRights08/06/23 03:42 PM
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Why are you ignoring the fact this happens IN REAL LIFE to almost every woman? No, it’s not all men and nobody ever said it was, but it’s a hell of a lot of women who’ve experienced what happens in this clip.
/r/MensRights08/06/23 12:56 PM
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Sure I can understand why they feel that way but again that’s more of a product of their own issues that are just catalysed by media like this. Plenty of men can see this stuff and they don’t feel like they’re being unfairly blamed for anything, because they know it’s not about them.
/r/MensRights08/06/23 12:09 PM
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The language you’ve used is very personalised and influenced by your own feelings, and not a reflection of the actual meaning and purpose of the PSA. The vast, vast majority of women don’t feel that way about men. I love men, I have a wonderful bf, great dad/brothers and male friends. But because of my experiences I am wary of strangers, because ultimately the only person who can truly look out for me is myself. Also, my entire life women are told to be careful, avoid walking alone at night, wat…
/r/MensRights08/06/23 11:31 AM
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What makes you so confident to determine the sexuality of most women? All of my friends are wired the same way, I guess we’re all demisexual. I find some of the discourse here interesting, especially as so much of it is permeating mainstream social media, it’s nothing to do with my own personal situation.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/23 11:26 AM
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I’ve known a lot of women end up with guys who weren’t typically their ‘type’ but when you find someone’s personality attractive you can find them physically attractive. I was previously always into guys with darker hair and tall, my bf is blonde and only a couple inches taller than me (I’m 5,6) and I’m far more attracted to him than anyone else I’ve been with. If I didn’t like his personality, it would have been a no go.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/23 11:00 AM
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Most women do own it, but men then get upset about women expressing those standards. It’s not an either/or thing. Everyone has a criteria both looks wise and personality wise for prospective partners.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/23 10:46 AM
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Idk how I got here but harassment on public transport is a lot more common than you realise I once had a guy rub his crotch on me, pretending like he was just leaning against the pull of the train. I didn’t realise at first until I saw he was literally almost squatting down and then I felt he had a full on boner he was pushing into my hip. He had one arm across the chest holding onto the rail on the other side of me even though there was a rail above him and in front of him. I shoved his arm off…
/r/MensRights08/06/23 10:42 AM
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I don’t really understand this. Most of the couples I know the girl is objectively more attractive and I don’t have an issue with that, they seem happy and I have bigger fish to fry. I once made the mistake of dating a guy I didn’t find attractive but I fell down the mindset of thinking I should lower my standards in order to be with a nice guy. Big mistake. He was so insecure and neurotic the entire relationship was a disaster, and he then started trying to chip away at my own self esteem to bo…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/23 10:10 AM
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Why can’t you have it? Who does it affect so terribly? If a woman’s standards are unrealistic then she’ll end up single, no big deal.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/23 10:06 AM
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Ever heard of stealthing? It’s far more common than you realise and I’ve known it to happen to multiple women.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/23 09:26 AM
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I’m a woman in a LTR so I don’t think my bf would be best pleased if I tried a dating app! I remember seeing my guy friends dating app and being surprised at so few matches he had because he isn’t a bad looking guy. The short time I did have tinder 5 years ago I matched with pretty much everyone I swiped right on, I didn’t realise at the time this wasn’t a usual thing I just assumed everyone on there was thirsty lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/23 09:54 PM
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Please enlighten me on my supposed “attitudes” towards men because you are barking up the wrong tree here. I agree that mens mental health is overlooked and there is more stigma around being a victim of domestic abuse, so take this rant to someone else because you’re shouting at thin air.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/23 09:50 PM
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If you read my post properly you’d see that I believe all victims of abuse deserve the same empathy, regardless of gender.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/23 09:31 PM
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Tbf isn’t tinder like 80% men? Idk if it’s the best avenue to meet women.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/23 09:31 PM
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Idk why people would buy the premium, you only get matches if people swipe on you, right? An app can’t change that I haven’t been in dating apps in 3 years so forgive me if I’m wrong
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/23 09:01 PM
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They’re free aren’t they?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/23 08:28 PM
2

As cringe as the term ‘bad boy’ is, to me it’s someone who will lead girls on, use them for sex and generally just be a bit of an ass and mess them around for their own means. That’s different to someone who physically/sexually abuses someone.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/23 07:36 PM
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There’s a difference between a bad boy and someone abusive
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/23 07:30 PM
1

Does the umbrella cover not having sex with your SO? That’s what the topic is.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/23 05:50 PM
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What a strawman
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/23 05:15 PM
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Abortion isnt legal everywhere, and birth control even when done perfectly is only 99% effective, so that’s 10 pregnancies for every 1000 women who use birth control. It’s also not free everywhere.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/23 04:43 PM

Oh someone here said that a woman not having sex with her partner is on par with abuse 🙃 it’s wild out here
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/23 04:32 PM
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They’re honestly so clueless
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/23 03:50 PM
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If the woman is the one mistreating someone then yes, she is accountable for her that
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/23 03:50 PM
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Middle ground really doesn’t exist huh Would you say the same for a man who failed to fully vet a female partner that turned out to be abusive?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/23 03:34 PM
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You realise in abusive relationships, the abuser is typically very good at putting up a front and uses various manipulation tactics to gain the woman’s trust long before he shows his true colours. If a woman went on a first date and the guy slapped her I really doubt she’d be like “can’t wait to see him again he’s a real catch!”
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/23 03:26 PM
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You’re right, there isn’t a single manipulative or deceptive man alive, only women!
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/23 03:23 PM
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Plenty of people have happy and fulfilled lives single. You can’t have a happy and fulfilled life is a toxic or abusive relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/23 03:21 PM
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being deprived of sex is the EXACT same as getting your teeth knocked out by your SO… you’re delusional
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/23 03:19 PM
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Yeah, it’s a mutual decision. It requires both parties. You seriously think women have never been rejected before?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/23 03:17 PM
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Regardless of your alternatives it is still YOUR choice to be with someone.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/23 03:17 PM
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Why are you convoluting sexless and abusive relationships? They are two very different kettles of fish.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/23 03:15 PM
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Even if you have fewer alternatives, it is still YOUR choice whether or not to be with someone. That view is very degrading to men, frankly. Some self respect would go a long way. If a guy was badly treated by a woman would you say “you should have chosen the fat chick with bad breath because she would have been kind and loyal”
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/23 03:12 PM
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So it’s women’s fault for not choosing someone she doesn’t find attractive?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/23 03:11 PM
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When people get into a relationship, it’s because both of them chose to be together, regardless of whoever had more options.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/23 03:10 PM

Sounds like men should be smarter about who they sleep with if they’re so concerned about having to pay for a child they didn’t want
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/23 02:34 PM

I’m all for women having authority over their own bodies. I’m asking about those who don’t feel that way.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/23 12:56 PM

I’m just curious because a lot of RP people think that the man should have final say in decisions, on the basis that he brings in the money. But in the vast majority of cases, both people bring in the money, so I wondered what the consensus is for that
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/23 09:38 AM

okay yoursubmissibewaifu777
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/23 09:18 AM

I doubt most of the men advocating for this would ever get into a LTR 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/23 09:03 AM

Basically that he gets the final say in decisions within the house, children if there are any. What people on this subreddit mean when they talk about a man “leading” a household. The main reasoning for it is if he pays for everything.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/23 09:00 AM

Why would she want it?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/23 08:56 AM

Should a man have authority in a household if all the rent, bills etc are split equally?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/23 08:54 AM

please go touch some grass
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/23 08:52 AM

It’s worth remembering that drunk people have less inhibitions and have 0 filter. They were probably curious anyway but not acted on it.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/23 08:49 AM

Keep that same energy when it comes to discussing financial abortions
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/23 07:37 AM

Wait abortions cost money in the US? I’m in the UK they’re free here
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/23 07:37 AM

No matter what the law is there will always be someone getting fucked over. I get that my example is a unique case as he was self employed, another one of my friends dads paid the very minimum child support while earning well over six figures. His mum earned a good salary so she didn’t bother kicking off when those payments stopped coming in. Single mothers are the most susceptible to poverty, so I understand why there isn’t much traction to allow men to free your their financial responsibilitie…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/23 11:58 PM

Why ideally yes?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/23 09:33 PM
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Are you happy?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/23 07:52 PM
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Idk where you’re from but my friends dad was taken to court twice because he refused to pay child support. (Her parents were married and then divorced). Each time they basically gave him a slap on the wrist and told him to pay up, he never did. He was self employed so they couldn’t deduct his salary, he never paid a penny of child support. A lot of men don’t pay child support and get away with it when the mother is too exhausted, can’t afford a lawyer to chase him. In my friends case, her mum di…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/23 07:06 PM
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You realise endless men would take advantage of that and leave women in poverty? What if they were married and planned of having kids when she got pregnant? Single mothers are already the demographic most vulnerable to poverty.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/23 06:56 PM
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I bet women have a great time with you!
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/23 05:58 PM
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Theoretically yes he should be made exempt from all responsibility, but it would be very hard to uphold that in court. End of the day I can’t fathom having a child with someone who explicitly doesn’t want to be a father.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/23 04:06 PM
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Lmaoooo I can’t take this seriously Look up the orgasm gap my guy
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/23 04:05 PM
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My bf and I have discussed what I’d do if I got pregnant and we’ve always been clear that children aren’t on the cards and I’d have an abortion ASAP which he’d be 100% supportive of. I think it’s better to have these discussions before pregnancy occurs. If he wasn’t on the same page I’m not sure I’d continue our relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/23 04:04 PM
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Or when it comes to a mans need to ‘have variety’ or their ‘something something biological urge to spread seeds something’
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/23 04:01 PM
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Agreed
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/23 03:06 PM
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It’s like 90% whingeing and rage bait
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/23 02:58 PM
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Most women orgasm through foreplay anyway, so as long as he was willing to learn his way around that, it would be fine. Obviously someone who wants you to have good sex is going to give you better sex? Yes because preaching abstinence has always worked so well for everyone!
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/23 02:57 PM
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https://www.nichd.nih.gov/health/topics/pregnancy/conditioninfo/complications https://www.nichd.nih.gov/health/topics/labor-delivery/topicinfo/complications And you know, women die during childbirth.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/23 02:54 PM
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I don’t think everyone deserves to be a parent. A lot of people who have kids really shouldn’t.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/23 02:53 PM
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The risk is obviously much lower when you’re in a monogamous relationship versus having ONS with multiple guys 😂 As for mediocre sex, the guy you’re dating is typically going to care a lot more about you enjoying it than some randomer who just wants to get off.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/23 02:52 PM
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How could that be proven?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/23 02:51 PM
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Be extra vigilant about raising your children to have good values then. Not everyone exposed to the media automatically engages in casual sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/23 02:50 PM
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Why is a father entitled to a child just because he wants one? Even if she hands over full custody at birth, she’s still the one putting herself at risk carrying and birthing the child.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/23 02:48 PM
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Nobody comes to this subreddit to see rational, non biased discussions ahaha
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/23 02:47 PM
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Why do you believe that?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/23 02:46 PM
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We’re talking about abortion, not actually raising the already born child.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/23 02:44 PM
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Could you specify what having “a say” means here?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/23 02:39 PM
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I very much agree with this. However, people argue that as the embryo is 50% ‘his’ and wouldn’t be there without him, that grants him a say. Ofc he can have his opinion and feelings, but the decision is ultimately hers. Men can and often walk away from children all the time, women don’t have that luxury.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/23 02:36 PM
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I do apply critical thinking to those ideas - hence why I have personally rejected the modern approach to casual sex. But when it comes to other people I obviously have 0 say on how they live their life and again if nobody is being hurt, I struggle to find a reason to care. I have bigger fish to fry.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/23 02:34 PM
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Is there a demographic statistic? I’m just assuming based on the fact almost everything I read here is from a man. I’d be curious to see what the actual split is.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/23 02:31 PM
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It’s a good way to weed out the guys who only want to sleep with you. If a guy is really into you, he’s happy to make it exclusive, if not official, before sleeping with you.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/23 02:26 PM
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My bf and I were dating for 3 months, made it official, and then slept together. Still going strong 2.5 years later, stranger things have happened 🤷🏼‍♀️
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/23 01:07 PM
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I mean I’m more talking about why I don’t engage in casual sex. What other people do is their business, as long as nobody’s being hurt I don’t care.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/23 01:00 PM
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You’re acting like I previously didn’t?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/23 12:42 PM
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I wouldn’t say it’s that superficial. Women now just don’t want to marry unless it’s for love and with someone who treats them well and makes them happy now that the financial/social pressure part has been taken away. They’re way less likely to marry a serial cheater or someone mean if they can make their own money and be happier single, and there’s now less shame around being a certain age and unmarried.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/23 10:49 AM
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The only way to guarantee that is to not have children at all or shell out for sexual selective IVF
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/23 10:46 AM
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The most sane comment here
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/23 10:43 AM
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Okay? Most men are only respectful to women they find attractive. It’s called the halo effect. My gym is 90% men, when I go looking scruffy, baggy t shirt they don’t really notice me but if I have a cute gym set, some makeup on they’re offering to put my weights away for me, being chatty etc. It is what it is. But I don’t take the times I get ignored when I look less attractive as reason to be rude to people. I’m polite to everyone, regardless of what they look like. However if it’s some guy bot…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/23 09:22 AM
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It’s so bizarre. Female women as opposed to female what?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/23 09:18 AM
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If my child talked like this I would just take the L and accept that I failed miserably as a parent
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/23 09:13 AM
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I know this sub is mainly men but for me personally the answer is no. Casual sex for women is usually more about the validation, the sex itself is often very mediocre. Not worth the risk of STIs, pregnancy or reputation.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/23 09:09 AM

Oh they love slapping on titles like “FEMINIST GETS OWNED” to these videos knowing that people are going to be drawn like a moth to a flame.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/23 08:33 AM

I’ll be clearer: I’d get tired of someone who was always short on rent, necessities etc very quickly, especially if I was always having to bail them out. I’ll give you that. But I’m already on a very comfortable salary, so someone could earn less than me and still be able to afford the basics and then some. Im not frivolous. Does that make more sense?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/23 08:21 AM
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You’re missing the point. It’s not about how many men have caused harm and that number would be impossible to find as I doubt those men would be volunteering that information and so many go unreported. Its the fact that the vast majority of women have experienced sexual assault, abuse, aka “harm”. Therefore they’re right to be wary of men. I’d rather be wrong than dead or hurt. Sorry I care more about my safety than some random guys feelings.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/23 08:19 AM
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https://supportingsurvivors.humboldt.edu/statistics#:~:text=An%20estimated%2091%25%20of%20victims,99%25%20of%20perpetrators%20are%20male. Nearly 99% of sexual assault perpetrators are men to 91% of female victims. https://rapecrisis.org.uk/get-informed/statistics-sexual-violence/ In the UK alone, 1 in 4 women have been raped or assaulted https://amp.theguardian.com/society/2022/dec/24/horrific-decade-high-number-of-women-killed-in-december-demands-serious-investment-in-prevention Are you really …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/23 09:56 PM

Which is less likely to happen if she’s successful and makes good money therefore… you should care about how much she makes if that’s your fear
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/23 09:44 PM
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Double standards exist among both genders, you want to undo all of them? Or just the ones that don’t suit you? My point is it’s not what you say but how you go about it. The world isn’t as black and white as you’re trying to make it out to be.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/23 09:42 PM
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The saying “a mans biggest fear is that a woman will laugh at him, a woman’s biggest fear is that a man will kill her” has never felt more accurate.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/23 09:39 PM

If I were single I wouldn’t be opposed to someone blue collar. As long as me earning more wouldn’t cause issues/resentment on his side down the line, I wouldn’t let it be a thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/23 08:16 PM

Mothers often have to work fewer hours or part time because they do the majority of childcare and housework. They are still working, it’s just unpaid. And like you saw when you look at the stats for non parents it’s a different story. Which undermines a lot of beliefs in this sub that women don’t work and expect the men to pick up the bill for everything.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/23 06:05 PM
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My point is it’s about HOW you go about that preference. If a man says that he wants a low n count woman because he’s also low n, he feels sex should be reserved for relationships etc whatever, any reasonable woman can see where he’s coming from. But when a man says that any woman who’s slept with more than 5 men is ran through, disgusting, no self respect, used up (but he feels he should sleep with as many women as his heart desires)… yeah that’s obviously not going to get great feedback from w…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/23 05:57 PM

I currently live with five flatmates who I split rent and bills with, if I wasn’t moving with him I’d stay where I am rn… in the city I live in I couldn’t justify living alone no matter what my salary was, it’s stupidly expensive. It’s interesting you frame it like that, rather than acknowledging that we’re both financially better off for being with eachother. He’s also saving a lot of money, not just me.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/23 05:49 PM

That’s one way to look at it, but a lot of criticism on women’s appearances come from men who want a girl that’s both thin and curvy, you’d be shocked by how much effort is required for “effortless” beauty.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/23 05:46 PM

Idk why people are getting stuck on the investment banking bit. I’m on about average women who have jobs in all different types of industries. And no, if that were the case I wouldn’t be motivated by wanting to support my parents would I…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/23 05:45 PM

I can’t answer that as we’re talking in very general terms, there are OF models from all over the world who have different regulations and loopholes. I’m sure some are smart about avoiding/minimising taxes, but there’s no exemption from tax for OF models. This isn’t about me or what I do or earn. The fact is, it’s a tiny tiny percentage of these women who make six figures a month from OF. And those who do are basically just doing porn, nobody makes that kind of money just by uploading saucy biki…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/23 05:26 PM

Most of the ‘answers’ people would give to that would most likely revolve around pinning all the blame to women. And no I don’t believe it’s any one gender fault, it’s just a polarising question. For your last question, there are many female-only subreddits dedicated to women looks-maxxing, we have endless rhetoric around how women should look, Matthew Hussey is a dating coach who has dedicated his career to helping women find dates and relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/23 05:23 PM
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What do you feel are the right questions to be asking?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/23 05:14 PM
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Thought you weren’t going to debate any further?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/23 04:48 PM
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I don’t personally know men who feel that way but throughout my education, mens mental health awareness was always a big occasion every year and there was a lot of rhetoric around encouraging men to speak up. The male friends I have are good at opening up about their mental health and are much more emotionally intelligent than others I know. However, I really wish that we had the same energy around body positivity to men as we do for women. It bothers me than while in commercial modelling you’ll…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/23 04:43 PM
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Very true - I’m just on about my own personal preference :) I can either prioritise making money, or birthing/looking after a baby but you will not catch me doing both 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/23 04:36 PM
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Well that’s a strawman if I ever saw one
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/23 04:35 PM
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I mean yeah I agree that you can find someone willing to say anything if they’re trying to get viral on TikTok and it does perpetuate certain ideas but like you say it doesn’t go for everyone. It’s an interesting phenomenon because outside of social media I don’t know any women with an inflated view of themselves. Even my gorgeous friends think they’re far less attractive than they are and constantly put themselves down. It’s why I actively try to stay off social media now, it’s a weird alternat…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/23 04:35 PM
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I think my first time getting drunk was in a field with my mates at 14/15 on disgusting cider and Smirnoff Ice thinking I was hard as nails 💀
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/23 04:31 PM
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I’m sorry im just reeling from ‘a drinking straw rammed a peach’ 💀
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/23 04:28 PM
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I don’t know about “more”, but I think it’s fair for a woman to want a man to be able to solely provide for her if they wants kids down the line. If kids are off the table, it doesn’t really matter either way to me as long as he was able to afford his own necessities and I wasn’t constantly having to bail him out.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/23 04:24 PM
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It’s a bit of a weird overlap in legal semantics, a pornstar is still paid to fuck, the only difference is that there’s a camera rolling.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/23 04:21 PM
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I do agree with RP on one thing which is that a lot of men are lacking strong male role models. I’d be interested to learn more about how men who fall into these traps interact with their fathers. Again, if a man has a fulfilled social life which includes women, he’d realise that the majority do not think that way. The issue is lack of socialisation and life experience. So they buy into whatever they’re shown on social media.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/23 04:20 PM
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Idk where you’re from but it is not tax free. If you live in a high COL city, $2500 doesn’t get you far at all, have you heard of rent? It definitely doesn’t cover a luxury home, head to toe designer clothes, trips to Dubai… And I’m not specifically on about women in finance, just average working women. I already earn more than the national average and more than some of the top 1% of OF workers.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/23 04:18 PM
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That’s my point. They demonise women so that men are even less inclined to interact with them which facilitates the loneliness and resentment they feel. Also, when you’re berating and belittling women, what makes you think you deserve someone understanding, encouraging etc? Of course you’re going to get antagonism back. But do not for a second believe that these RP creators give a shit about you. They’re securing the bag, that’s it. They know full well that their advice will only make you more i…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/23 04:10 PM
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Yep that’s the video I was on about. My point is, that handful of women do not speak for the average woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/23 04:09 PM
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Women on OF are a minority of women, what are you on about? The threshold for the top 1% of OF workers is $2500 a month pre tax. They make out like it’s a gold mine but very few make serious money and its usually if they already have a large social media following to begin with. Transgenders do especially well on OF.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/23 04:07 PM
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Sex work is "the exchange of sexual services, performances, or products for material compensation.[1][2] It includes activities of direct physical contact between buyers and sellers as well as indirect sexual stimulation". Found this definition online. I believe ‘indirect sexual stimulation’ could apply to uploading erotic images for money? Especially as a lot of OF is essentially just porn.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/23 03:51 PM
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I think when it comes to finances, children are the biggest factor. If I have kids one day, I’d like to be able to take maximum time off to have a comfortable pregnancy/newborn phase knowing my husband can take care of the bills, mortgage etc while I take care of our child. Not everyone likes that view but it’s how I feel. I don’t want to be working right up until I give birth and have to come back a month later. So I’d want to be with someone who can make sure I don’t have to do that. But while…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/23 03:47 PM

If men will just assume a woman’s body count is 3x more than what it is, why wouldn’t she just sleep with however many people she like and lie about it - since you assume she’s lying anyway. It’s such a dumb incentive to stop women sleeping around. As long as you never met the other guys she slept with you’d never know so 🤷🏼‍♀️
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/23 03:38 PM
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It’s pretty obvious the way they’re usually slurring and uhhh, the fact they’re walking out of a bar late at night. This is a reach and completely unrelated to the actual post.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/23 03:34 PM
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I’m also a Brit lol, been clubbing since I was 16/17, it’s wild to me Americans don’t start until 21 unless they have a fake ID
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/23 03:32 PM
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How exactly am I a niche? University graduates are ten a penny, and I still go out on weekends and use social media. Like I say, I’m in a LTR so I’m not too concerned about my ‘dating pool’
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/23 03:29 PM
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You’re missing the point. The fact is they’re drunk, wanting to have a good time, imagine how disorientating it would be to have a camera and lights shoved in your face while someone rattles off questions at you. The person in question is completely sober, has a few debating fallacies up their sleeve and they have the same comebacks they parrot off every time. Does that really sound like a fair fight to you?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/23 03:28 PM
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OF usually involves nudes and the most successful OF girls have sex/masturbate on camera , it’s similar to camming which is considered sex work. You realise only the top 1% get paid around $2500 a month - pre tax. And those top 1% are doing a lot more than posting bikini pictures.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/23 03:25 PM
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Trying to entice a drunk girl into starting OF on camera isn’t a great look They just ask the same, redundant questions like “what’s your body count” “what’s the minimum height requirement for a guy” just so they can push the narrative that women are sluts with unrealistic expectations.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/23 03:22 PM
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This ^
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/23 03:16 PM
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No I’m talking about two different types of content that are frequently circulating on social media. Podcast talks with a group of OF girls, and then interviewers bombarding random girls outside bars.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/23 03:09 PM

Lol it’s 3, l haven’t been in 9 relationships
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/23 03:09 PM
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Great point. And RP creators pounce on these men, giving them the content they want to see to affirm their beliefs about women, and hello Adsense and sponsorships. It’s a vicious cycle where men become more closed off and less likely to interact with women, so the beliefs that have been fed to them never get challenged, which creates more isolation and resentment as time goes on.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/23 02:50 PM
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It’s not about who’s considered more attractive, but who is seen as a representative for all women.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/23 02:49 PM

Oh I’m not, I’m just wondering what the consensus is when the shoe is on the other foot.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/23 02:29 PM

Fair enough. I know some guys who’ve slept with girls they didn’t find attractive just to break a dry run, get the numbers up, get some “practise”, or simply because she was there and willing.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/23 02:28 PM

When you say sluts - is that promiscuous people in general or just promiscuous women?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/23 02:27 PM

The way I see it - I’m glad he showed his true colours early and saved me a lot of time 😂 It’s weird the way men assume that if you don’t tell them your body count it’s because you’re ashamed so it must be super high. It’s private, and if I’m not that close to you why would I talk to you about my sex life?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/23 01:15 PM

Really is a mystery they can’t find a good woman!
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/23 01:06 PM

It was early days and we hadn’t slept together, not even kissed. He asked for my n count, I said that I only slept with people I was in exclusive relationships with who have been tested, and that I’d been recently tested and had the all clear. I thought that would be enough to get him off my back but he kept pushing for the actual number, saying something like “no man wants to go somewhere everyone’s already been” if this was me now I would have just not even bothered replying but this was a few…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/23 01:06 PM

As someone who’s been to raves, people usually don’t go there to hookup compared to just going to a normal bar/club. They’re usually there for the music, to dance and take drugs. It’s a bit weird if you go to a rave jus to get with girls knowing that they’re off their tits on MDMA. And yes plenty of people hookup at raves, I’m just saying it’s a different vibe. If it’s not your thing, don’t go, besides anything else you won’t have a good time.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/23 01:02 PM

Oh really, what’s their argument? I know I can only speak for myself but I don’t know any woman who prefers a man with a high body count. The whole status symbol they go on about only appeals to other men.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/23 12:57 PM

A lot of men who have a ton of casual sex do it for their ego and bragging rights, they start to treat sex and women like a game. I really think they do it to impress other men than women. I once was seeing a guy who was very concerned about my body count, I finally told him (it was 2 at the time) and he told me his was 18. It’s not even that high but the hypocrisy put me off big time so I ended it shortly after that. He had no right to be that neurotic about my past.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/23 12:55 PM

Yep I agree. Takes two to tango, which is why the double standard really boggles me. Why would you chase sex, just to be disgusted by the person you’re trying to sleep with? Put your money where your mouth is or get off your high horse.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/23 12:27 PM

Oh 100%, I’ve never met anyone irl who cares about n count as much as people on this sub 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/23 12:16 PM

I don’t want children but maybe! I more see it as wanting someone with similar values/experiences to me. It’s interesting because men here seem to think that women go wild for a guy with a high n count. I’ve known many guys who’ve slept with 50 women + and was never impressed by them. I think it’s kinda gross and sad to sleep with someone you don’t even find attractive just to get your numbers up. They do it more for validation from other men than anything else.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/23 12:13 PM

I wonder what people’s thoughts are on a woman wanting a low N count in a man for non religious reasons? I’ve only slept with 3 people including my current bf. But if I were single, I’d have a hard time wanting to be with someone with an N count of over around 20. When a guy has a high body count (20+), that tells me he’s probably slept with girls he wasn’t even attracted to just for the sake of it, he has a higher chance of STIs, it’s an indicator of impulsive decision making. For me, sex is so…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/23 12:02 PM
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It’s fine to have a preference, it’s not fine to go out of your way to make someone feel crappy for not meeting that preference. If N count matters a lot to you, find someone with a similar one to you, happy days
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/23 10:56 AM
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Why is it relevant if her parents are together, what if one of them died?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/23 01:50 PM
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Men are far more likely to remarry
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/23 01:45 PM
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How? All OP said was women married to a rich man who assumedly also makes them happy and treats them well don’t have anything to complain about.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/23 01:43 PM
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And how often is yard work and gutter cleaning actually done? Compared to the typically “feminine” household tasks which need to be done multiple times a day.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/23 01:42 PM
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Is she helpless… or is she doing the night feedings, dealing with post partum depression, adjusting to the permanent changes to her body and the pressure to drop the weight ASAP. Be for real you seriously think the husband has more on his plate 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/23 01:41 PM
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Socialisation - women are told that if we don’t have a ring and a bump by 30, we’ve failed
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/23 01:39 PM
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There was a post the other day claiming that love doesn’t exist so idk if that point will hold much weight here
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/23 01:38 PM
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