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i agree with you. Hes claiming "you can't do math" and then says a completely non statistical analysis. Doesn't even realize its a nominal gap of 29 and keeps saying 50.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/26 02:07 AM
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the boys in that clip look to be under 18 fwiw. Bad example. Good luck to you, enjoy the last word you seem to be agitated by the data.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/26 01:39 AM
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Younger guys do not think that way. If they are dating somebody for 3 months they are not describing themselves as single. Nobody is doing that. You were given data to explain it. It adds up. You are just wrong on this one.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/26 01:35 AM
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No, younger men dont think that way. Most men and women think if they are dating somebody for 3 months they are in fact...not single. I meet plenty of men at work, parties, etc. The ones dating in a relationship for a few months do not describe themselves as single.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/26 01:27 AM
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i dont think men who are dating view things that way. Most men i know are pretty quick to announce if they are in a relationship. Especially the younger ones. I think you are ignoring the data at this point.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/26 01:23 AM
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theres a few reasons for it, that being one of them an 18 year old guy is less likely to date a girl whose 16/17 which wouldnt be that bad, but the social environments are a fair bit different if the 18 year old is out of high school. But like you said, a 28/29 year old woman being with a 33/34 year old dude happens a lot more. there is slightly more men than women amongst all age buckets until senior citizens. The only reason why women are 51% of the USA is because of old people being overwhelm…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/26 12:58 AM
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women dont want to be the leader in the relationship, but claim thats oppressing them.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/26 02:33 PM
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its also a stupid phrase. We are owed things by each other. Common decency is one of them.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/26 02:24 PM
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Be more interested in dating and not view it as submission to a patriarchy
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/26 07:39 AM
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but you didnt say anything
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/26 07:00 AM
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but you didnt say anything
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/26 06:58 AM
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but you didnt say anything
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/26 06:56 AM
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but you didnt say anything
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/26 06:56 AM
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but you didnt say anything
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/26 06:55 AM
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but you didnt say anything
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/26 06:54 AM
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but you didnt say anything
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/26 06:53 AM
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but you didnt say anything
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/26 06:51 AM
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but you arent saying anything
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/26 06:49 AM
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it doesn't say anything tho
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/26 06:47 AM
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you havent said anything either, just a blanket statement.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/26 06:45 AM
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you havent said anything tho.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/26 06:43 AM
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Again, a blanket statement.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/26 06:41 AM
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You havent
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/26 06:39 AM
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you didnt say anything. You said just a blanket statement. And continue to do so. You type like you are maybe 16.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/26 06:34 AM
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you havent come up with anything either.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/26 06:15 AM
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I think you might be a bit young and naive about it tbh
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/26 01:07 AM
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i dont think women get a pass as much as you think they do. Yes, hot women will get advantages for sure, but i think you might be over exaggerating when you say 'basically everything'.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/26 02:42 AM
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ive heard both extreme feminists and redpillers say thing such as "i dont have a solution, im just showing the problem" in discussions fwiw.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/26 08:05 PM
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the "nobody owes you anything" crap posts strikes again!
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/26 03:01 PM
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Well I hope to meet a reasonable woman like yourself more irl and less on the net. Hope things go well for ya
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/26 11:24 PM
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So im a tad younger than you but not a ton, but if I math this out right you graduated high school around 08/09? Right around when modern era social media started (late 00s), but didn't completely consume us yet. I think the fact that we spend so much time on about 10 different website that change a tad (facebook is a zombie site pretty much now for example), really has stunted us more than anything else. Started with middle millennials (late 80s births like my sister), but for me its been my li…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/26 09:12 PM
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late 20s. It was more pronounced in my early 20s for sure, but i still see it today. People are more socially stunted than ever was my reasoning for it, as evidenced by a lot of the right wing youtubers who are late 20s (fuentes) or early 40s (tate) still acting like 17 year old 'edgelords' But if you are gonna say "women grow out of it" you are probably right, but it still affects people when they should be dating, socializing in general, meeting new people, maybe a few hook ups, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/26 08:54 PM
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I hear it from women my age a noticeable enough amount of times with comments like "i didnt hate him, but he was kinda short" type stuff. Its a factor.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/26 08:37 PM
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eh, i know a few women that want the 'above 6 feet' benchmark. Which last i checked is about 80th percentile. Yes the average man is about 5 inches taller than the average woman, so this issue about the man needing to be taller than her isnt a big issue. But for a small but noticeable enough amount of women, its her wanting a man thats taller than most men
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/26 08:13 PM
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patriarchy is basically just "men have to do things in the outside world to get dates/romance/sex". If stay at home husbands actually were sexualized by attractive women, then the patriarchy would go away. Do we live in a patriarchy? Sorta ya. Is it for any of the reasons why feminists say? Not really, no.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/26 06:10 PM
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some advice still holds, but yes plenty of it is outdated in the social media age. Really it started with the 90s born millennials, but semantics.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/26 06:38 PM
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None of it adds up because its not math. Women have desires and some men might even get a date with the woman but after the date starts there was nothing he could do to actually win her over. The main issue is this and this alone: women arent interested in general. Thats it. This subreddit is so fucking irrelevant, been so for 10+ years.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/26 06:37 PM
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If she actually views you as a friend, nothing is wrong. That means she will put effort into the friendship. But what i notice is being friendzoned by a woman usually means she doesnt even like you as a friend. Some ways to tell if she ACTUALLY views you as a friend She'll want to hang out and do something with you when shes in a happy state, not just when she's depressed She'll maybe try to set you up with a friend of hers She'll want to talk to you even when she doesn't want something from you…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/26 03:08 PM
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Watching a sport will help u get better at the sport. Surely you're smart enough to know this
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/26 12:07 AM
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ya i can see in one night stands it being a little bit less social for sure. Ive never had a one night hook up, all my sexual encounters have been with a woman i had dated or at least knew for a bit of time though
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/26 09:16 PM
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well that hasnt been my experience, but teto
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/26 08:30 PM
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you backtracking. You said watching sports don't help you play the sport. Then acted mad that you cant watch sports alone to make the NFL, which is a strawman to what I said. But you better believe watching sports will help you play the sport.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/26 07:13 PM
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using professional level football as the starting point is laughable. But you better believe watching football will help you throw a football better. Visual learning is part of learning. I mean god damn have you ever seen Tom Brady and Bill Belichick discuss game film? They did that plenty
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/26 06:41 PM
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I think thats an over exaggeration on men's expectations from women. I havent had a ton of sex in my life, but every woman ive been with has been willing to give me advice on her specific body and mental desires and I've worked with her to usually make her enjoy the experience. It takes time and her to actually be interested in sex, but most women I do believe want to engage with him, at least the women Ive been with.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/26 06:06 PM
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watching sports definitely will help you play the sport
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/26 06:03 PM
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I think there are a lot of men out there a bit afraid to ask what their girlfriend/wife want because a lot of men take pride in being able to "satisfy their woman like we are reading her mind" or whatever. Women need to communicate what they want, men need to be more receptive. The bigger step before all this though is getting men and women to be in healthy social environments in much higher amounts, and fuck the internet and social media. Also, to be fair to us dudes, the thing we pleasure on t…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/26 05:10 PM
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fair. I mean insecurity like believing in climate change is not masculine, so they are insecure about believing in it because its something women do, or 'gay', etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/25 07:23 PM
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Meh those are more other (important, but unrelated) topics. I thought you meant 'other climate change' related sources. And I'm saying a lot of men who are loud climate change deniers are insecure, which to my experience is the case.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/25 04:58 PM
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other sources of what? That climate change isnt real? Those 'other sources' against climate change are these massive hoops of conspiracy nuts with one massive common denominator: men insecure with themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/25 04:10 PM
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in this day and age, its becoming zero sum very quickly. That was a passable statement pre social media and now AI era, not so much anymore.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/25 01:53 AM
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a lot more men are gonna need those welfare programs then women if current trends hold up
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/25 01:37 AM
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Ya there is surprisingly a lot of overlap between rp and bp, its just the subset of people who give vs take orders is different. I generally lean left on almost all issues, and even side with feminists on plenty. But I do bring up how subsets of the people on the left also need to make changes too a lot of them become "nobody owes you anything" capitalist bootstrappers. When i debate with right wing people (lets be real, mostly men), they have a lot of fear. Climate change is real for example, b…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/25 09:11 PM
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Even if we decenter women, us focusing on other things will contribute to the patriarchy...perhaps even more. We focus on creating new businesses: "Where are the women entrepreneurs....we need 50/50 ratios" We focus on nerd shit like video games, comic books, and DnD: "Where are the women game designers and next edition DnD designers" We focus on education: "Colleges are seeing more men then women after years of women beating out the guys in enrollment, this is regressive" etc
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/25 08:04 PM
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The problem with this is it 100% explains the patriarchy which feminists (and really, all of women these days) complain about. If I do not have access to the domestic world but still have 24 hours a day, one of two options exist 1) I go into the outside world and become successful, which then i contribute to power imbalances and patriarchal systems 2) I fail in the outside world, and then need government assistance to live, otherwise feminism will actively contribute to death. Most feminists see…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/25 07:59 PM
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Its also just women are less interested in most men. Awkward men can still get dates if they make up for it in other ways (especially genetics). I'd argue those relationships dont last particularly long though I also know a lot of women who could use some self improvement as well, but they tend to have boyfriends.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/25 07:10 PM
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Only 1 in 4? For the later half of the millennials (pretty much the 90s born ones) and zoomers I think itll be close to 1 in 2.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/25 03:50 PM
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self improvement is important, but its not really the main thing to get a girl. Its mostly just used because conversations about guys not being able to get dates/romance/sex are awkward, and its an easy way to avoid the actual conversation.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/25 03:31 PM
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You cant if people dont exist
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/25 02:38 PM
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No I'm saying biology is contributing to patriarchy, not social constructs
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/25 11:29 PM
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This is explaining the patriarchy a lot though
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/25 09:12 PM
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Not at all. Hes bringing up terms like incel. Incels (or whatever term was used back in the late 00s) were more than just school shooters in the late 00s. Im arguing nothing has changed much for about 20 years now. There are issues with the dating game, but this notion that social media wasn't polluting men and women's brains (just in different ways mostly) by the late 00s is absurd. The only difference is it was facebook and youtube in the late 00s. Now its TikTok, IG, and youtube. But the issu…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/25 05:50 PM
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It was not. It was already everywhere on the internet. The term incel maybe was not, but thats surface level vocabulary and not the meat and potatoes.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/25 04:49 PM
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This has been mainstream since 2007 or so. Definitely by 2009. To act like 2019 was still "baby steps era" for this is absurd. Its mostly a product of terminally online culture. Which red pillers say they hate but most keep spending all day on social media themselves
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/25 04:43 PM
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I think a lot of the pushback is that a lot of men were raised now (under the age of 40 or so) that "all differences between men and women are a part of social constructs". So women should be approaching more often based on this obsession with 50/50 ratios alone that feminism had for a fair bit of time. I will say one thing that 4th (arguably we are in a 5th wave of feminism now as i think 4th wave was around 2007ish to maybe covid/just after covid) wave feminism has done is started to realize t…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/25 07:12 PM
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Hes not. Its mostly insecure men who think this way. Honestly women lead most of the relationship. Men are just the fall guy if things fail edit: i guess we lead how the basement looks
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/25 02:32 PM
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social media polluting everyone's time and brain started before 2012.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/25 05:09 PM
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They mature about a year faster on average. Also due to the fact that women want men about 1 to 5 years older than them, it kinda forces men to wait a tad longer. We just say mature faster to keep the peace ever so slightly in this gender war
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/25 04:50 PM
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both
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/25 05:12 PM
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acting like hes just a child in the relationship if you are the one leading the income.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/25 02:55 PM
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I know some men who would feel emasculated, but most who wouldnt. If you are having good sex and actual fun, and not completely belittling him all the time for earning less, i think most men are fine with it from the get go or will get used to it. The woman has to not treat him like a kid, which I do think the woman does sometimes.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/25 02:50 PM
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Agreed, but the problem is so many young people spend so much of their time online. I'm not sure where somebody fresh out of high school is supposed to meet people if you didnt go to college.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/25 02:38 AM
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and a social media dating app that was government funded would actually serve the opposite purpose. Its there for the citizens, but the goal would be to get people off the app asap, as its taxpayer funded. In theory the fewer people who need a dating app, the less it takes to maintain it, at least somewhat less.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/25 04:15 PM
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im not sure how "big ass and thighs" you have. But it sounded like the "exceedingly" was on the big thighs side, which might be harder. Do you have to be a stick? prob not. But thunder thighs might make things difficult.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/25 10:59 PM
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nah, shes right on that. Taller women (like 5'10" and up) have it harder
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/25 05:25 PM
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I'm not sure the big ass and thighs look fits with taller women. That might be some of the problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/25 05:24 PM
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Well i mean a lot of men have been passed over by the education system, and benevolent corporatism these past 25/30 years..... There are only a finite amount of "good jobs" (the modern equivalent of say....85k a year or more). Women are apparently entitled to at least 50% of them now.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/25 01:44 PM
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kinda the same thing tbh
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/25 07:10 PM
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Because women would rather be single than be with a man they dont know much about. A single woman is viewed as an asset to society, a single man is viewed as a liability.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/25 07:22 PM
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Women just aren't interested
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/25 04:33 PM
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its not just taxes and government. Its all of capitalism too. Also once birth rates go below replacement level for too long it becomes very difficult to recover.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/25 02:08 PM
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that too, but its other women, other men as well. Women act like a prize to be won despite hating it being described that way.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/25 09:31 PM
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yes
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/25 07:04 PM
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Not in the city i live in
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/25 06:52 PM
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Most women I know who have >10 partners seem to only want men who are at that number, or a tad lower. Granted I only know 2 women who have told me their number is greater than 10 so the sample isn't large, but ya
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/25 06:44 PM
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not to mention the vast explosion of lgbt numbers is from younger women. 30% of girls under 30 identify as lgbt now. Sure a bisexual woman still pairs up with men most of the time, but all men are competing against even women now.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/25 06:19 PM
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eh, most women i know want a man with about the same amount of partners. A lot of women value men based on how many women theyve been with, not just other men doing that in some bro competition. See: how more women are interested in you if you are seen with a woman in public, male virgins being viewed as 'a wee boy' by lots of women, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/25 06:17 PM
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It's not wrong, but I think most women do not respect men who have significantly lower counts than them
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/25 06:10 PM
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There arent enough conservative women for conservative men. Also lots of conservative women actually prefer slightly left men because conservative men are fucking insecure when they dont have 100% control over everything.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/25 04:41 AM
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agreed. havent used it in a decade
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/25 05:13 AM
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Actually women over time tend to agree with me. They were too obsessed with story book and not obsessed with growing with a person. I know multiple women who say they never would have given their boyfriend a shot if they first saw him on tinder.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/25 07:53 PM
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People can forget that, as evidenced by there are times (and usually the healthiest relationships) where the woman said "over time i started to like him more and more". Needing the perfect meetcute event is the same thing as wanting this epic wedding. Its not a healthy way to meet a partner. Also: my main point is women arent the same as men, which is a massive disagreement with most of modern feminism.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/25 07:35 PM
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i mean under that logic basically if shes not 100% satisfied at all hours of the day every day shes "settling". At some point you have to say forget the perfect "meet cute" type bullshit.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/25 07:26 PM
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Either that or for women to understand that the reason why CEOs, hollywood directors, board room members, EDM Dance DJs, Dungeon Masters in DnD, pro athletes, etc etc are overwhemingly men and not these perfect 50/50 ratios is because women arent really interested in most men. Even being successful is far from a guarantee that you will be sexualizied as much as u want as a guy. I do also think women need to give more men a chance. I've talked to so many women who have said things like "if i saw …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/25 05:04 PM
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So its true that women arent the same as men, however blank slate feminism is a massive wing of the feminist movement ("thats just a social construct" type rebuttals to a lot of things that aren't just social constructs). This is why more and more men are turning right wing. The left needs to own up to the fact that "empowering women" means empowering them so they dont have to pair up with men, because women aren't interested.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/25 02:25 PM
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nobody is really for ending gender roles, it has to be fuckable.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/25 03:22 AM
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to me, giving me a chance is an hour long meet up where we do something while have honest intentions of trying to create a romantic partnership. If you are honest about having the intentions of building something romantic and just aren't feeling it after the hour, bol hope you find somebody.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/25 07:38 PM
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Eh, even on PPD
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/25 01:39 PM
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What ive also noticed is the most "fiercely independent i dont need a man/woman" type people tend to be the most needy people in friendships or whenever they start dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/25 01:21 PM
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Eh, no offense but I dont think women are "so quick to remind you that theyre pure angels....". There are plenty of women who will definitely call themselves bitches and what not.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/25 01:20 PM
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Everybody has an individualism about them, and everybody has moments where they care about their ingroup. The internet also amplifies the complain/vent aspects of all this.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/25 03:19 PM
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I don't even see that tbh, I don't think they are really at replacement as a whole but perhaps
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/25 08:02 PM
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Really? I don't think they are but maybe a very very small handful of Mormons, and the number is so small it'll take like 200 years
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/25 07:49 PM
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Are even they are replacement level tho?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/25 07:37 PM
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I agree with how social media (not just dating apps) are turning people into sociopaths, but there is a projected population implosion
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/25 07:05 PM
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Careers are more important to a mans overall ability to live than a woman's ability to live. Maga is a fucking cult and fucking dumb as shit, but if the left could just abandon the "that's just a social construct" bullshit I believe maga never would have become relevant.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/25 06:11 AM
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Sex is seen as devaluing to women because they aren't attracted to most men.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/25 02:51 PM
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In the social media age, I have to agree. Women have so many options and just seem bored of men
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/25 06:21 PM
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and the same goes for anything you say.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/25 05:27 PM
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Thats not a healthy worldview.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/25 05:12 PM
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That's completely ignoring any agency by women
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/25 04:50 PM
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As much as women hate being viewed as "an object to be won", sadly a lot of their actions kind of reinforce this. They want perfect "meet cute" events They (and other men do this to men tbh) will say "you need to work on yourself first" and "have you tried xyz" and "you aren't ready yet because you need to love yourself first" gate keeping Women tend to expect the man to lead most of the time, especially early in the relationship. After time women seem to be more willing to lead at times though …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/25 03:24 PM
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Its not all bad, but often times people need to understand what worked for them won't work for everyone. Lots of narcissism with that thought process.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/25 03:20 PM
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About 10 years ago i remember lots of backlash to trans people saying to cis and straight people "if you arent willing to date a trans person because they are trans you don't view them as the gender they claim to be". They accused the trans people saying this as the next step of the slippery slope. The thing is, the trans people are correct with their assessment. Its also a big reason why there will never be full trans acceptance. Because quite frankly, both the reproductive organs and the brain…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/25 03:18 PM
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That is a massive oversimplification
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/25 05:43 AM
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I think plenty try, but keep in mind a lot of these attributes kind of explain the patriarchy that feminists hate so much
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/25 05:25 AM
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I dont think things are in their own hands as much as people think. Especially men, since women literally have their bodies altered during sex, they are going to be more selective for dates, romance, casual sex, marriage, etc. All of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/25 04:51 AM
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No one individual might owe you something, and you owe that individual, but society as a whole does owe each other things to keep it stable and livable. We do have to do things for each other to some degree. Romantically and/or sexually? Ya probably not that, but you should be sympathetic to most people who can't find anyone.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/25 03:05 PM
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Men definitely spend way too much time focusing on each metric which will probably cause most women to be turned off as it becomes absurd.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/25 03:28 PM
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I think more and more people are not just talking about women's clock anymore. Men's clock is longer it seems, but also if you abuse drugs/alcohol/no physical activity cobined with aging, the male clock exists plenty.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/25 03:26 PM
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meh, i think there are lot of maga males that just want words too.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/25 09:12 PM
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Eh maybe. TikTok to my observations just captured younger males (middle zoomers and younger) and what not. Also is TikTok more popular than instagram or youtube? I'd think not but i might be wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/25 08:07 PM
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social media has been a time sink for both genders since the late 00s. Not just tiktok era.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/25 06:26 PM
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definitely a mixed sentiment. On one hand, its their life. On the other hand, there is a lot of psychological problems with going down that path it seems. And i doubt i could date a woman who does only fans/porn/etc. Perhaps its me being controlling, but I think certain things should be between the people in the relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/25 03:51 PM
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The internet in general is a massive problem for people's social lives. Sure, some people might say "the internet just showed what was always going on", but these types of discussions were nowhere near to this prevalence before the internet.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/25 04:04 PM
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25 dating 21 is a "gap" lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/25 10:20 AM
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Interesting insight, thanks. Makes me feel less obsolete lol, even if this is just a rando on the net.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/25 10:13 PM
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See maybe thats my male brain talking, but i view bi women as probably more attracted to women. Hell when i talk to any woman (straight, lesbian, bi, etc), they all comment on female beauty more.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/25 08:29 PM
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Also to be fair, those look they are from 2014. Aka before trump. I think trump (and maga in general) has actually made the problem worse, women are disgusted by maga and see so many men a part of it
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/25 06:51 PM
1

And your source that women want it more is where?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/25 06:13 PM
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Amongst the later half of millennials and older zoomers, yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/25 04:39 PM
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because men are the ones who still want it, women dont really tbh. Especially ones under 40 or so.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/25 04:04 PM
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Men aren't the gatekeepers for marriage anymore, maybe 20+ years ago.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/25 03:36 PM
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I think there are a lot of monosexual people who are afraid of bisexual people because of their own self confidence/worth. I'll admit im somewhat that way. I'm tired of how it seems every woman i meet these days is bi. Partially because I think shes gonna just view me as a temporary fix until a woman walks into her life, because women are just hotter. But since women are way flakier in dating, I think a lot of bi women are more lesbian than bi. Just us dudes are more interested in women we are e…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/25 02:24 PM
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What we are seeing is the relationships not form in the first place. And 80k dating 70k proves my point, thats not a big difference. Maybe you are onto something with 80k dating 50k, that is way more noticeable. But also way less common than 80k dating 70k.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/25 06:15 PM
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Like you said, let's look at a more reasonable salary than 800k. Women aren't rejecting men who make 5k less than them. But that's barely an income gap. The variance matters. Men making 125k (a damn good salary, but semi obtainable in today's age) are marrying women who make 55k. The reverse of that is not happening much. Yes you will see women who make 125k marry a man making 112k or something, but again that's just not very significant.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/25 12:09 PM
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you are talking about a very very small % of the population. Yes, some women will do what you said. Most will not.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/25 07:21 PM
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It is, but it also was an era where the human brain could keep up because it was limited to 24 hours a day like us humans. The internet has millions of hours uploaded daily, and I think pivot points in life like that cause people's brains to become fried to no return
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/25 06:00 PM
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Yes, fox news and am radio are similar to the issue of social media, but they are not algorithmically based, and the amount of content they have is limited to airwaves while the internet political content is thousands of times larger in raw number
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/25 04:52 PM
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Social media was the beginning of the exponential line. Before that it was linear, and reasonable.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/25 04:21 PM
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Again, all those are nothing compared to social media engagement and time spent
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/25 04:00 PM
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In the 80s/90s they absolutely were allowed to be politically active... People are bringing up examples in the past right now. The point is those types of political activism are nothing compared to youtube. Also everyone has always cared about the laws governing them, but social media has made it on people's brains more every day than 30 years ago.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/25 03:15 PM
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data backs me up bud
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/25 03:08 PM
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The data backs me up. Social media has made people more political. Thats my point.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/25 03:07 PM
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First, you are the one who said marginalized youth already knew that voting matters. But social media has made people MORE political is my original point. Which it has. And I'd argue its a net negative at this point because it seems like its turning people more right wing than left. The best way to combat maga is not more social media bullshit, its leaving the platforms and sharing hobbies/your life with people and developing platonic and romantic relationships. Not trying to be an influencer or…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/25 03:01 PM
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I'm saying social media has made people more poltical than in the past, and you are saying no. But everyone knows that social media is. You are just saying "but riot grrl!" and shit that we all know existed, but wasnt generating millions of youtube views a fucking day.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/25 02:54 PM
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And in the smartphone age, even moreso than in the late 90s/early 00s on some message board or in quake 3 death matches.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/25 02:52 PM
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You brought up how people were political in the past. Im not disagreeing. I'm saying social media has made people more political than ever before, which nobody denies.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/25 02:51 PM
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And it happens online way more often in the smartphone age.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/25 02:50 PM
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Hateful shit is way more prominent now than in the 80s/90s. Sure the OJ Simpson trial was a race based trial, and Rodney King was a big issue back then. But imagine those things in the social media age, and how many more gut reactions of hate youd see. Nobody is saying hateful shit didnt happen pre smartphones. But on these online platforms where people see this shit (because they are on them so much, and because the internet now revolves around like 10 websites) all day.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/25 02:34 PM
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No, they were less political. They didn't have the need to express their politics anywhere close to the degree that is happening now. Sure something like Riot Grrl has popular, but the people who went to those concerts would rock out, maybe talk about issues the next few days, continue to be political in that sense. But not wake up and tweet about it 10 times a day, getting constant notifications on their phones about likes/retweets/etc. The chronic reminder alone these platforms do shape the mi…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/25 02:32 PM
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The IRL part happened after the social media addiction. The internet used to be the supplemental piece to life, and "go outside nerd" was the insult in the 90s/early 00s. Then smartphones happened combined with the internet centralizing to like 10-12 main websites and the attitude of 2007 4chan trolls became the norm on the non 4chan websites, and then IRL. The modern internet (last 15 to 20 years or so) is the genesis of this issue tbh. Hell 4th wave feminism started because of this too. The ma…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/25 02:25 PM
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I oppose MAGA as well, but the issue is young people I think do spend too much time on politics. Its everywhere on the internet now, and people (old people too tbh) are too busy watching the same clips (but from different "influencers"!) over and over. I think the best way to actually oppose MAGA is to go outside, stop watching youtube/instagram/netflix/twitch/twitter feeds, and meet people locally with intentions of sharing hobbies/starting friendships/starting romance.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/25 02:19 PM
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Yes, i know third wave feminism started in the 90s. Second wave post ww2ish, etc. Young people are more political now than 50 years ago. Young people saw a future back then regardless of politics, now young people do not, and many cope with politics. Politics back in the 90s was a bunch of old fucks watching the Mclaughlin Group. Young people were outside doing way more socializing with less politics.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/25 02:15 PM
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Its a major factor for the massive political increase in young people.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/25 02:01 PM
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It is. People are on these platforms WAY too much, and see so many things that never would have crossed their minds 20 years ago. Again, people were outside doing stuff and socializing WAY more, and that will make people feel more included (because they are), which is a huge issue here.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/25 01:56 PM
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I already responded to this comment. My rights are invested in voting too. And again, in the 80s/90s/early 00s women were not nearly as political as they are now. They were outside doing stuff, like how younger men were too back then. Social media is the main factor for women's massive increase in politics. Social media is also radicalizing young men too, but its morso because young men in general are powerless, as power accumulates over time and some 19 year old is barely out of high school/nob…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/25 01:41 PM
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Somewhat true, but back in the 80s/90s/early00s younger women were not as political as they are now. Social media seemed to ramp up women's political interest. Also rights of men are built on political decisions too.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/25 01:36 PM
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In this day and age, politics seem to be very important to women. Men I think are somewhat afraid to speak their mind (starting with the later half of the millennials or so who are now in their 30s pretty much), and it became a bit of a festering boil that led to more extreme politics. I think a lot of younger men are afraid to speak their mind about politics in the flesh (on the internet it doesnt seem to be an issue) if a woman is present because they are afraid of offending the woman. And a l…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/25 01:28 PM
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Most men don't really completely desexualize their female friends
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/25 10:19 AM
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The girls are a tad ahead, but by 18/19 I think the actual maturity evens out, and its morso an adult woman can fall into a gender role way faster than a man (partially because women literally want to date men a little bit older than them)
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/25 07:55 PM
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That is an excuse to just toy with you. There is a read the room moment at times, but that was WAY beyond that.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/25 07:53 PM
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A couple where she makes 75k to 110k (still obtainable salaries) and he makes like....52k would be a combined 120 to 160k salary. You can still raise a few kids off of that. The main issue is the relationships arent forming in the first place. She isnt interested. She'd rather remain single because single women (at least up until your 40s or so) are viewed as an asset to society and capitalism, while single men are viewed as a liability in many ways. Eventually women have to sexualize men who ar…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/25 07:49 PM
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Oh your article says they are taking the paternity more. Well what you do with the money i cant control. But its available.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/25 07:46 PM
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My point isnt about paternity leave. Its about leaving the job in general. Men stay in the workforce more often because men are the higher earners. So if one person takes time off, its usually going to be the lower earner.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/25 03:50 PM
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when you get to your mid to late 20s, i think people view (especially male) virgins that late as beneath them. The women in that social circle view him in a very de sexualized way, and basically view him as an infant.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/25 03:04 PM
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Ya i agree on the biology factor here, not sure what we can do about that.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/25 01:46 PM
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Its going up much slower than women's ascent into higher positions. Women have plenty of the good jobs now, but the relationships dont seem to be really forming in the first place.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/25 01:21 PM
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Fathers would put their careers on hold if women were attracted to men who are making less. Usually they arent.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/25 12:41 PM
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Men need to stop chasing women agreed, but that still wont change that much. Women arent attracted to most of these men anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/25 12:38 PM
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That study says gen z started in 1992 and ends in 2007, i dont know anyone that says that.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/25 05:38 PM
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Feminism and red pill are the same thing. The only difference is basically the gender and/or temperament of people who practice it
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/25 04:18 PM
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Maybe like a check in system could work. You meet up, press start, and have to check in when the timer ends. Still doesn't completely fix what you are saying though, moreso me just spitballin a bit.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/25 07:27 PM
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It would have to be on a report basis, but then people could just report bad dates. Idk how to completely enforce it tbh, but the main point I think is that people need to just implement a hard stop for the first date or few and stop reading articles/youtube vids about "if they end the date at time xyz they arent into you" type stuff.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/25 06:44 PM
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The app should be you meet up for exactly 30 minutes and set a hard stop. Meet in a public place, and then after 30 minutes you say goodbye. I do think a large chunk of first date culture in this day and age is "how do i end the first date? I want him/her to know im interested, but i also have other things to do today. But then they won't think I'm interested" type stuff.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/25 06:12 PM
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The same can be said about women with male relationships
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/25 09:04 PM
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It's an oversimplification. You could say the same to women about their male partners and relationships
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/25 08:19 PM
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I think that's an oversimplified response tbh
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/25 07:51 PM
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This isnt entirely on men, but both people need to change. I have tried to connect with women on a way that I would deem normal and also as an attempt to maybe date them/build a personal connection, but when I have done this they viewed it as "kinda gay". Grant it this was when I was in my late teens, so I hope maybe women would mature a bit, but it was kinda sad, and definitely stunted my dating life. This notion that toxic masculinity is only kept alive by other men is just not my life experie…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/25 06:11 PM
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Women who are lonely still seem to be integrated into society more. They go outside and can still be approached by other women socially, and men too. They might be annoyed at men approaching them though.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/25 03:58 PM
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Depends on the millennials. The later half of the millennials (90s born ones more or less) have no adult life pre current era social media, which started around 2007
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/25 06:28 AM
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Off to try hinge I guess lol
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/25 10:31 PM
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Do u know which are 60/40? Not because I don't believe u but because I want to try one for myself lol
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/25 09:59 PM
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True, men want more casual sex. Is it possible that all dating apps are used for casual sex? Maybe, although I though some were more for longer term dating than others, and those also have really bad ratios on them too.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/25 08:21 PM
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This has been known for years now. Not to mention, as a whole there is just a lot more single men in their late teens/20s/30s than women. Multiple factors cause this, such as: There is enough 40/50 something dudes dating a late 20s/30s something woman to dent it Women in their 20s/30s are way more likely to be lgbt than men. Its mostly the bisexual count as there is slightly more gay males than lesbian women, but bisexual women outnumber bi men like 5:1 Women sharing a "top tier" man with multip…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/25 07:49 PM
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Depends on what they did that was horrible.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/25 04:18 PM
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social media is the problem then
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/25 01:42 AM
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It was not always this way. Everyone had more reasonable expectations. Social media and algorithm fomo caused this to go to the level the human brain can no longer keep up
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/25 10:02 PM
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Perfect was defined differently pre social media
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/25 08:58 PM
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The modern era internet (2007 or so to the present) in general is the problem. Internet addiction is the number 1 cause of the first world's problems. Including this subreddit and reddit itself.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/25 05:20 PM
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Ya, agreed here. Especially the part of the "im conservative, but im promiscuous" part. You mean you want everyone else to live by a more conservative value but you dont. Just a narcissist for sure.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/25 03:38 PM
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When you say option 1, are you saying they are the ultra bitter incel, or just inexperienced? If its the former, i can see why she wouldnt try dating the guy, but some dude +/- a year or two from her isnt that old and while maybe not ideal, still is worth trying if they are friendly. More and more people (especially men) are getting little experience in the dating game. People have to give others a chance more.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/25 01:45 PM
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This is almost entirely, if not entirely, on the dude. This doesnt happen that often, but ya the guy is stupid here. If he said no and didnt offer ANY hint of a future (even something like, im really busy on this work project, in a few weeks can we resume? type vague stuff is better than just "no". Obviously a specific date and time is very legitimate), then ya wtf is he thinking she is going to do?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/25 06:44 PM
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We know. This isnt new.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/25 05:10 PM
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I don't know everyone who lives in my apartment complex, no. I know quite a few though. But i mean before the industrial revolution you didnt live near may people at all, so I'd rather know a small % of people in my general area, but that raw number of people is much bigger than the agriculture age where nobody is around other than your immediate family.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/25 07:26 PM
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Meh, a lot of this is reading the room and environment. For example if I'm walking down the hallway at my apartment complex and see another person, a quick nod an hi as you walk past is how you'd start. Maybe if you see them again you say something a tad longer, etc. Little interactions like this do matter somewhat too, as for one they are still acknowledging somebody and being acknowledged (which most people seem to want), and are still integrating you into the world. A very small degree, but s…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/25 03:32 PM
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2007/2008 was when this all started. Including modern era social media.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/25 02:19 AM
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Not only might they not be a vocal minority, they might be purposely lying to just pot stir and be a piece of shit too. And then people let that affect their day irl
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/25 12:33 AM
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ya this is very true. When you go outside and look at reality/talk to actual couples you see a much different picture of the world.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 08:36 PM
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thats probably true ya.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 08:24 PM
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due to algorithm and 'desire to be an influencer' culture, the internet has gotten to the point where the human brain can not keep up and thus no longer a mirror to our society.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 07:47 PM
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Id argue the internet is creating more angsty single (and unstable men) more than society at large. The internet is part of society, but its the bigger issue, including this subreddit.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 07:06 PM
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Xfd
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 04:16 PM
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I wouldnt pay attention to him. Later in my exchange with me he acknowledged we do owe each other things, but his original post says blatantly otherwise.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 04:10 PM
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No one individual owes me a sexual relationship, thats not something id argue for.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 03:42 PM
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Because internet addiction is so fucking bad its probably manosphere. But then again internet addiction hits men and women to large degrees which causes a lot of people to think "there is better out there" type analysis paralysis. This causes the dating experience to be shit as people dont invest in their partner creating throw away relationships and general unpleasant people. I do think the internet in our pockets is responsible for almost all of the first and second world problems atm. Or at l…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 03:39 PM
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I did not come across as bad faith. Fairness is something we are owed. I could probably think of others, but that is the biggest one. But remember: nobody owes you anything also means fairness is not owed. You seem to think it is owed, so yes even you believe we are owed things, and we must do things to preserve it for others as well. And you accused me of not saying an ought statement, which i did say way earlier in the discussion. I do ask for you to at least internalize your need for a last w…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 03:24 PM
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So you apologize? and you admit your "i can post for 2 years" crap was just some wanna be tough guy shit? I will ask you this? Do you need the last word in all your arguments online because it makes you feel like you "won"? You come across that way.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 03:16 PM
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Nobody owes you anything is saying even fairness is not owed. Nobody and anything are as absolute as it gets.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 03:11 PM
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Im saying we ought to change said system if its not being implemented fairly, as we owe each other fairness. That was the legit point of the post. If a system is not perfect (none will ever be), we owe each other improvements to said system (in this case the legal system) is fair to others. Let me guess, "why do we owe each other fairness" is your rebuttal. Because otherwise if I am bigger and stronger than you I just can do whatever the fuck i want to you. And if you want to live in that world …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 03:04 PM
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I have said an ought statement. Read the chain. Do I need to use the exact word ought in it? If so I think thats on you. Good luck.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 02:56 PM
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Nope
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 02:54 PM
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You will be reported for excessive replying.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 02:53 PM
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I did. You dont. You created the side chat because you have no patience.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 02:49 PM
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I did. You dont. You created the side chat because you have no patience.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 02:48 PM
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I did. You dont. You created the side chat because you have no patience.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 02:47 PM
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I did.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 02:45 PM
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You dont know what semantics are. And I just gave you a very direct enough answer because you can't think of anything in a more abstract way.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 02:41 PM
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Ok, because you are daft and dont know what semantics are: If a legal system is not treating somebody fairly based on race (or gender because you need to yell that specific one), then the people involved in the legal process should be removed from an authority position. We owe each other that specific action.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 02:34 PM
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i have
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 02:31 PM
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It is semantics. It was an example i brought up and you are saying "this example is better". Ok great. It has nothing to do with the point, which is we do owe each other stuff. Fairness (for black men, white men, whatever) is one of those things.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 02:28 PM
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Even worse than race is gender. Black people get treated more harshly, but men get treated wildly more harshly. In the hierarchy of abuse, it goes black men (most harshly) white (and other) men, black women, other women, and then white women. White women are the biggest beneficiaries of our horrible system. semantics, but sure.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 02:24 PM
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We have a legal system which is basically saying "we owe each other stuff". Not to kill, even if one could do so and then say "survival of the fittest, nobody owed you anything" is perhaps the most obvious example. We also owe each other that said legal system is implemented fairly, not "one race gets more leniency" which happens all the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 02:18 PM
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That phrase is brought up way more than just sexual relations between men and women.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 02:02 PM
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Maybe so, but when people say nobody is owned anything from anyone else, thats not really a gendered statement.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 01:57 PM
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Its not
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 01:54 PM
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It seems like through legal means in as a much of a non secular way as possible.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 01:52 PM
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That phrase is a bit oversaid, I do think we owe each other things in society. Maybe no one individual owes an individual anything, but we do owe each other certain virtues for the sake of a stable society.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 01:33 PM
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C16 broke Peterson's brain. I remember him on The Agenda with Paikin and had some good comments via round table discussions back in like 2012/2013. Then it went to C16 a few years later, then he became way too popular on social media, then he got too much daily wire money, then went to russia for drugs, his daughter also went terminally online. His brain is mush at this point, the internet is too strong for these people.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/25 03:11 PM
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I think the misogyny is displayed differently between sexually inexperienced and overly experienced men, but the inexperienced men display more immediate and obvious misogyny.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/25 02:16 PM
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True, but women tend to deem fewer men attracted than the other way around. We just aren't really on their radar.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/25 06:18 PM
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I will continue the discussion in the direction you want it to when you acknowledge that your example is wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/25 06:24 PM
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I will continue the discussion in the direction you want it to when you acknowledge that your example is wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/25 06:22 PM
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/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/25 06:18 PM
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/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/25 06:14 PM
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/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/25 06:08 PM
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/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/25 05:37 PM
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/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/25 05:24 PM
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/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/25 01:26 PM
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/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/25 01:25 PM
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/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/25 01:19 PM
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I will continue the discussion in the direction you want it to when you acknowledge that your example is wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/25 01:18 PM
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/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/25 01:16 PM
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/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/25 01:05 PM
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/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/25 01:03 PM
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/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/25 12:52 PM
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/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/25 05:08 AM
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I did. I will continue the discussion in the direction you want it to when you acknowledge that your example is wrong. Don't be a coward.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/25 12:22 AM
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/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/25 12:18 AM
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/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/25 12:01 AM
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/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/25 11:55 PM
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/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/25 11:50 PM
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I will continue the discussion in the direction you want it to when you acknowledge that your example is wrong. Don't be a coward.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/25 11:45 PM
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no WE did not. i answered your first question. Now acknowledge that your example is wrong. Don't be a coward
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/25 11:42 PM
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Acknowledge that your example is wrong first. Don't be a coward. I answered your first question
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/25 11:21 PM
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I answered your question. You have to acknowledge your original example is shit first. Don't be a coward
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/25 10:55 PM
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Acknowledge that your example was bad first. I already answered your question
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/25 10:47 PM
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The wall is mostly bullshit. women might hit a wall a tad earlier than men, but it's far from 25 to 30. Maybe 45
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/25 10:39 PM
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I did answer. You are a coward though
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/25 10:19 PM
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I answered. You can't admit you are wrong. That's cowardly
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/25 07:36 PM
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Coward eh
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/25 07:31 PM
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First acknowledge your example is shit
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/25 07:22 PM
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I was External validation is not taught by anyone Now acknowledge your example is shit
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/25 07:12 PM
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You are the one who used the shitty example that makes no sense and then straw manned
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/25 07:07 PM
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You straw manned. I attacked the point I wanted to attack
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/25 06:55 PM
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Nobody is saying a baby doesnt need their parents, nice straw man
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/25 06:49 PM
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It's clear youve never been around a newborn. They learn hand usage motor skills very early....and it's not from their parents.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/25 06:29 PM
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Lol your parents teach you that you need food. That is the dumbest shit I've ever heard. Babies frequently put shit in their mouth all the time
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/25 05:19 PM
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Social media has to go. People are constantly in a state of fomo or "even better is out there" mode, and their lives stagnant funnily enough
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/25 03:37 AM
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I've asked out women with better jobs/career than me, I've been rejected everytime. Ive never been some dude who has 10 women blowing up his phone, but women who makes less money than me have shown some interest, which is more than 0 from women who make more. Women who make more money dont really share their wealth with men younger/make less/less educated/etc. Even if the man does all the cooking and cleaning, the relationship doesnt form in the first place.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/25 06:32 PM
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Whether I'm a pussy or not has nothing to do with anything. Women take initiative all the time. You are just not one of the guys that most women are interested in
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/25 12:17 PM
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Im a man lol. Dude you are just wrong on this one. Women take initiative all the time if they are into a dude.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/25 12:50 AM
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they have pussies, they arent in the sense you are saying. Women will approach and take initiative for men they are interested in.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/25 09:29 PM
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They'd approach you if they found u attractive. Women aren't as shy as you think
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/25 09:07 PM
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Women deem very few men attractive. I've been saying this the whole time. The men they are interested in they do take initiative for Tina fairly large degree. Are you an alt account of the original poster?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/25 07:45 PM
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Women do the feign interest thing sure, but no plenty of women approach the men they are interested in. And they aren't waiting for the guy to say yes. Again, women just arent as interested in general. This is the disconnect. The few that they are interested in, they do approach.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/25 03:32 AM
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And i have seen men who have died for their women, and men who would protect their women from anyone and anything. Men who never get laid are resentful yes, because its something we want. Like I said, women dont really want men that much, and men want women more. And yes, most women I know view even dating men as "submitting". Guess what. The man submits too. Men who dont tend to be very insecure and sure ill agree, not worth your time.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/25 08:52 PM
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so you are a lesbian? and my point is, men DO put the effort in to build friendships and romance. But like you said, lots of women think just even having sex with a man is ruining their dignity.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/25 08:15 PM
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They approach less frequently because they are less interested. The ones they are interested in they approach plenty, and not just "only when they know they wont be rejected" stuff you keep saying. Its just not true buddy. Women SAY they are less interested. This "less often than they claim" crap is just that. Do you actually talk to women? They literally say they are less interested. The ones they are interested in they approach plenty. You are just wrong on this and need to actually talk to wo…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/25 04:24 PM
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No. You are wrong. women approach the men they are interested in. It's not this "only when they are sure" crap. It wouldn't lead to "then they'd approach more". They aren't interested
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/25 08:15 PM
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It doesn't only show up then. You have constructed something in your brain that isn't true
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/25 06:05 PM
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Women's sex drive is lower than men's, they deem less men attractive. They approach the men they are attracted to. Men are more likely to say yes because deem then more attractive. Women leave their comfort zone for men they are attracted to all the time. Sorry you aren't one of them. Neither am i
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/25 03:59 PM
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No, they approach men they are interested in. It has nothing to do with them knowing/not knowing what the man thinks
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/25 01:44 PM
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They do approach the men they are interested in.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/25 01:31 PM
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They arent interested in the other men. Thats the point. She doesnt want you, or me, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/25 12:51 PM
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you go outside and dick is more abundant than air to you. I put in plenty of effort. My sister puts in less effort and she hasnt been without a boyfriend since she was 16. Shes now 33
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/25 12:50 PM
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They approach for the small % of men they are attracted to plenty.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/25 04:58 PM
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Sure
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/25 04:51 PM
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And you were implying those physical characteristics for a sexual reason
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/25 04:40 PM
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I'm not ragging on anyone. You are the one who thinks men only wants sex when that's far from true
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/25 04:33 PM
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I have spark with plenty of people. I think you dont understand men very well if this is the case. I want to go out more and do things with people. I dont give a fuck about this "be independent" world. Human nature is actually very social, and romance is a part of the social world.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/25 04:26 PM
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I have not made it about just visual characteristics. YOU did. I get attracted to a girl if i see her wearing a shirt of a band i like, or an anime i like, or if demonstrating any hobby in general. Unless hobbies are visual characteristics, then you are just insane. Sure maybe i'd be less interested if she was 300lbs, but so do women with men. There are plenty of women who pass my "evil lust physical threshold". The issue is women dont have much spark with most men, because they just arent inter…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/25 04:22 PM
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You are the one who cant realize that attraction and lust are different.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/25 04:15 PM
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They are different!
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/25 04:09 PM
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They are different things!
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/25 04:07 PM
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Different things!
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/25 04:05 PM
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And you cant decide if you are compatible if you dont try. Finding a girl attractive is not lust.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/25 03:58 PM
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No you didnt. You were just trying to do the "you just want sex all day" crap. Maybe i want sex more than the average woman, but thats not the only fucking thing im looking for. You are backpedaling.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/25 03:53 PM
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But you said its just "u lust" I am aware of what im looking for. The women aren't interested.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/25 03:48 PM
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Again, even on personality, you still dont deem as many men attractive as i do women. Its not just "u lust" like you say.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/25 03:44 PM
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again, its not just 'shallow' visuals. I can meet a girl, talk to her for a while, and find her attractive. Women still won't deem as many men attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/25 03:41 PM
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I mean a first date is all im asking for, you immediately say no to that almost always. Its not leading with lust. Its sticking the foot in the door and trying to start something. Usually afterwards you then make the judgement about if its compatible, not before the date even happens. And besides, when women get rejected by that 10% they do find attractive, watch how quickly they become the lustful or vengeful person. Hell hath no fury remember?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/25 03:27 PM
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they do. They just dont find many men attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/25 03:08 PM
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It can be a different 10%, but it wont always be. Also Each woman's 10% is still much smaller than the fact that I deem probably 40 to 50% of girls within a decade of my age +/- as attractive. Men deem more women attractive than the other way around, that what creates gender roles and the patriarchy.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/25 03:08 PM
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they do, just very very rarely
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/25 03:06 PM
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Women do approach. Its about 10% of men they deem worthy of approaching. Im not one, you probably arent either. Sorry. The issue is women just dont deem enough men attractive to end gender roles.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/25 01:47 PM
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japanese economists have been freaking out over the future of the country so yes
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/25 02:23 PM
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their economies have large issues actually. Japan's yen has been collapsing, and south korea has huge issues with income inequality. Their economies are definitely seeing issues.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/25 09:27 PM
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Neither capitalism nor socialism works with aging and dying populations
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/25 04:41 PM
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People not pairing up will lead to collapse
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/25 03:16 PM
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Look it up
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/25 02:04 PM
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Half of gen Z men haven't even had 1 date by graduation of high school
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/25 01:45 PM
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most zoomers are not
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/25 10:26 PM
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It is. Nobody is dating anymore, economies are on the brink of collapse due to a lot of this
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/25 03:46 PM
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And society is collapsing because of this. It's why trump won who is horrible for this country
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/25 03:27 PM
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I mean i agree you cant change that, but soft patriarchies will be the conclusion of this.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/25 02:02 PM
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It has amongst the younger generations
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/25 08:57 PM
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its not. Its people of dating/marriage age are not even meeting with each other. Short term, long term, one night stands, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/25 07:01 PM
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ya thats pretty accurate. I do think a lot of these platforms could institute limitations on hours spent, but they never would due to $$$$
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/25 06:08 PM
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money isnt the reason why people arent having kids. Also like i said, social safety nets dont improve birthrates. Im not against those things, but they dont fix this issue
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/25 06:07 PM
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nobody is advocating for the level of social safety net needed. No. Some want larger ones, but it still is not enough for what is needed for this to continue. birth control is dirt cheap in the usa, and the poorest people are still the ones having kids. Its these combined salary of 170k couples who arent. countries already have those programs and it doesnt effect the birth rate at all. Im not against those programs, but they wont fix this issue. I wasnt for something like defunding planned paren…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/25 03:58 PM
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it could be undone, but it seems like everyone (not just women mind you) dont want it to be? Despite it making most people miserable, we seem to be addicted to the misery. My main belief is most of these issues would go away if people took the time they spent on these 10 or so platforms and slashed the amount of time they spent on them to about 25% of what they currently do, and spent all that extra time trying new things locally be it a new business/restaurant, or a meetup with like minded peop…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/25 03:53 PM
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its pretty easily available, go look up college enrollment numbers.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/25 03:51 PM
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greater social safety nets will not fix this. Nobody is advocating for the level of social safety net to keep this system propped up. Yes, the economy will fail if people dont pair up. Capitalism and socialism both fail if people dont have kids. Both are ponzi schemes that revolve around....people. The unaffordable argument is bullshit, some of the poorest people in nations (including usa) have the most kids. People are just not attractive to each other anymore. They are linked. So much of this …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/25 03:47 PM
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the women who are neet are 40+, and married with social lives. The men who are neet are 18 to death. And have no social life. Most universities are struggling to stay 60% female/40% male.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/25 03:43 PM
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but they biologically are addicted to social media, as these things are designed to hack and ruin your brain. Including reddit to be fair.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/25 03:38 PM
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honestly, amongst the 20 somethings, men are leaving the workplace and college in droves. A lot have given up, but they also have never had a girlfriend and they are 22, 24, etc. They are very self loathing, but you as a woman probably dont understand how socially ostracized you are if you even look like a virgin at 24 years old. With women you might be treated like royalty.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/25 03:30 PM
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College
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/25 03:24 PM
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We do know. Dating apps are mostly biological reactions to profile pictures, and women dont deem very many men attractive on those sites
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/25 03:23 PM
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Its pretty clear imo. Its mostly biology. It seems to start the initial spark, which is step 1.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/25 03:11 PM
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30% of girls under 30 identify as LGBT. The number is nowhere near to the level of that for men under 30. Some say there are a lot of closeted bisexual men, but they are afraid to come out because women find bisexual men disgusting. So they still value female sexuality more than male. We all just like female sexuality more than male. Women will embrace their queerness, they already have in droves.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/25 02:55 PM
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How do men survive if women have the better jobs in higher numbers? The economy will fail eventually if people don't pair up. We are already seeing this happen in the USA. Millennials should have had way more kids by now, and most millennials are still acting like teens/early 20s thinking its still 2006 when the average millennial is like 35/36 and the oldest are a few years into their 40s.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/25 02:52 PM
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both men and women need to change. Men need to stop this alpha "i control my woman" bullshit, but women need to deem a lot more men dateable. Hell a large chunk of feminism promised this "Once women have the good jobs theyll marry the men with the bad ones" "Dont you want us to take on more of the burden so you dont have to?" "Men and women are the exact same all differences are social constructs" "Saying men cant be nurture is actually a product of patriarchy" No, all these things are a product…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/25 02:49 PM
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For the most part, yes. Women have way more robust outside social lives, because they are more in demand in these spaces. Also when it comes to online stuff, women get way more interactions on the platforms. Almost every woman on instagram can be a 2-3k follower count profile with DMs if they play the game right. Male thirst is WAY larger than female thirst. I'd argue women get addicted to social media brain rot too, but at least their brain rot is more fun.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/25 02:44 PM
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Its mostly a product of women just dont find many men attractive. Because women can have their bodies altered during a romantic and sexual relationship, they deem fewer men attractive. There is a man out there for every woman, there is not a woman out there for every man.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/25 02:40 PM
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Single women get treated as an asset. Single men are treated as a liability. A woman can handle being single because she usually will still be seen, heard, given some level of romantic attention, etc. When a man is single, his life turns into a ghost town. He is invisible
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/25 07:01 AM
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pretty much this. Calling it patriarchy is a disguise because its not just men keeping it around.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/25 06:48 PM
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Its been proven.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/25 06:55 PM
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Its moreso biology. Women just dont have the same sex drives as men, and most men they arent attracted to. Men deem a lot more women attractive
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/25 06:36 PM
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you were the one blaming the economy on why people aren't getting together. Dont do this hon shit bitch.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/25 04:41 PM
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If you think there are "lots" of people swapping gender roles in relationships you are crazy. What's happening now is nobody is dating and women are all bisexual now amongst the younger crowd. The economy is just an excuse. If you actually liked the guy you'd just downgrade your life to something more affordable. Most people could choose an apartment 300/month cheaper but not as new, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/25 04:37 PM
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Women don't deem enough men attractive for stay at home husband to be available to them. This causes gender roles.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/25 04:29 PM
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Again, getting rid of gender roles leads to loneliness in men, which causes the ultimate gender role: women are more desirable. That needs to change.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/25 04:23 PM
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They overlap a fuckton. Most men will not be able to date a 22 year old when they are 19. Or a 33 year old when they are 28. These are gender roles. Ending gender roles has to mean relationships are as available to men as they are to women. Otherwise you still have a MASSIVE gender role: women are more desirable than men. That is THE gender role
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/25 04:13 PM
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Because it's a gender role imposed onto men. Relationships enforce gender roles more than anything. People don't want to be alone.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/25 04:09 PM
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Women have to deem men younger than them, shorter than them, make less money than them, less educated than them, etc attractive. They dont
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/25 04:00 PM
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I workout, eat healthy, and have a decent job. I've done enough that I should have some options. I don't. I get rejected 100% of the time. I'm 34 and have never had even a date
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/25 03:59 PM
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People want relationships. When we say "we need to end gender roles", there is an additional part that is implied that you will have a reasonable adult life experience. Having a few romantic partners is part of having a reasonable adult experience
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/25 03:57 PM
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Men deem a lot more women attractive than. The other way around. Women want to be left alone by most men
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/25 07:16 AM
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Women don't deem enough men dateable/marryable and/or fuckable to end the patriarchy. Men's careers are more important to their lives than women's careers are to their lives. Women do not have the sex drive to end gender roles
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/25 05:40 AM
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casual sex or dating, it doesnt matter. All women have more options for both compared to men of similar social/genetic situations
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/25 02:44 PM
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1) self improvement has always been preached for men to do 2) self improvement for leads to patriarchy, something feminists hate. men just like more women than women like men. Most if not all of this is due to women getting pregnant by men's sperm, so they are pickier. That is all.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/25 02:40 PM
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This sub is nearly 100% brainrot. The brainrot era started in 2007.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/25 05:47 PM
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nah, the last time things were normal was 2006. Social media is the cause of all this, and 2007 was when most of this shit began.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/25 05:47 PM
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both hetero and homo society is doomed. We have no more major frontiers to keep it all propped up.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/25 08:28 PM
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It's a big assumption that they are the same rate. That is the 50/50 fallacy people believe. There is no evidence that men are just as big as women. And men who are bi say they don't talk about their biness to women because the woman almost always says ick after she finds out. So even the bi men prefer female sexuality otherwise they wouldn't care.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/25 02:03 AM
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nobody likes to be viewed as the problem. When men complain about the dating game, women view it as them being the problem. Which is kinda an accurate interpretation. Maybe not individually, but women as a whole. Men have legitimate complaints about women's actions, as women do men. But due to sex drives, women can say how much they hate men and still be liked by men. Women will just say fuck that to a man even making one complaint about women. Ya, i would date and/or hook up with almost all the…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/25 04:19 PM
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it is a curse. I know plenty of men who are living fulfilling lives outside of dating. They are making upper 5/low 6 figs, have a house (but not a home), go on trips, are in reasonable shape. The only thing on their mind is why they cant find a woman. Btw having a "fulfilling" live still contributes to uneven gender ratios, which means feminism has to live with the fact that men can't rely on women not just emotionally and sexually, but also economically. Which means women will never have 50% of…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/25 03:02 PM
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it was popular on this subreddit...both poop memes and female abusers
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/25 07:12 PM
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Lots of women in gen z (hell this started with millennials tbh especially the 90s born millennials) are identifying as bi/pan etc. The gay male population has been 3 to 3.2% for decades. The bi male numbers exist, but compared to women its minuscule.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/25 02:49 PM
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Well ya, but neither is shitting the bed memes, which nobody credible was giving two fucks about either.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/25 02:39 PM
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i saw plenty of comments in this very subreddit about female abusers, i dont have them bookmarked im sorry. In terms of articles from credible or even semi credible places, I didn't see much discussion about female abusers, but to be fair those sites weren't making poop in the bed joke articles either. Also im not sure about the random pivot to trans issues, but i do think a large chunk of trans issues are in the spotlight because a lot of men are afraid they want to fuck some of them. I've date…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/25 02:10 PM
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To be fair, i did see a lot of pushback towards women abusers during the Depp Heard stuff. Not just shit in the bed memes. Maybe you spend too much time on more memed websites? But yes, everyone seems to value women more than men. Men do it because there are a lot of men who believe that every woman should be fucking them at all times, and horde women. Hell it is funny how a lot of younger males (millennial, zoomer) hate boomers but think Trump and RFK are fine. Millennials born in 1990 are clos…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/25 01:47 PM
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funnily enough, ppd is an aging subreddit and is honestly stuck in that late 00s to 2016 period.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/25 01:45 PM
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LOL good luck getting some 500k salary bro, kamala was the better choice get over it. Cant complain about boomers when you vote for trump and rfk.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/25 04:09 AM
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your first sentence makes no sense. Trump's economic policies will ruin this country, were already seeing it. Inflation happened under Biden, but the USA saw less inflation than the rest of the major nations of the world. The main thing ruining society is internet addiction.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/25 04:32 PM
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Trump only cares about Trump. Men dont care about other men much, we are all trying to find a girl and they seem less interested in ever, so we are kind of on our own. I am an incel and have massive criticisms of feminism, but still you better believe I voted Hillary and Kamala. Republican economic policy doesnt benefit anyone making under like 500k a year, which aint us.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/25 03:52 PM
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Patriarchy exists because women aren't attracted to many men. Patriarchy is the effect, not the cause
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/25 04:44 PM
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ya, somebody who is 33 had to experience highschool when facebook was seeing exponential growth in 2007/2008. Really a lot of these issues started around 07/08
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/25 02:04 PM
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The whole "we need to care about friendships" thing is true, but it's usually said to squelch the discussion about romantic relationships
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/25 07:17 AM
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all profile based apps are.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/25 09:02 PM
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worthless comment right there
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/25 08:32 PM
1

thats what they are using it the majority of the time for. And furthermore, my point is all apps are the same. They are all dating apps, and validation apps.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/25 08:32 PM
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women use tinder for validation, you are wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/25 07:00 PM
1

im not wrong, get over it.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/25 06:59 PM
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nope. Instagram is used for dating for sure. Tinder is also used for dating too. But both are primarily used for validation by women, and dating (hoping moreso) for men. But yes, instagram is a dating site. To a degree. My point is they are all the same, and you are saying they arent. They are all the same.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/25 04:09 PM
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I have been answering all of your daft questions buddy. Girls like validation. They tend to want as much of it as possible. Yes they get some walking down the street. But guess what? They use tinder for it too. Go ask some women. I have. Ya, you are definitely in your 40s.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/25 04:02 PM
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Its another form of validation yes. Plenty of women use tinder only for validation. Some women get more validation on tinder than they did on instagram or snap or some other site too. Its all one giant validation app for women and dating app for men. Instagram is a dating app though, you are just wrong. You probably are in your 40s.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/25 03:56 PM
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A lot of em are using onlyfans too. Again, you dont understand how this works. Most of the women want validation, instagram gets them some. Tinder does, onlyfans, etc. Are you dumb enough to think there are women on onlyfans who ARENT on instagram? The math sides with me. You are just wrong on this buddy. Instagram is a dating app to a large degree. Tinder is used for validation (for women at least) to a large degree too. Both are dating apps though. Both are validation apps too.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/25 03:49 PM
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because they already use instagram too. They use snap probably too. People want more. Some people are satisfied with just instagram validation. Some people dont care about it at all. You keep saying things about my logic, but you have none of your own.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/25 03:38 PM
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Because people are addicted to social media, and want multiple forms of social media validation like people want multiple forms of passive income This is fairly easy to understand. You really need to observe modern trends better.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/25 03:34 PM
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Because they want multiple sources of validation. Cmon man this isnt hard....
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/25 03:25 PM
1

Because they like more validation? I'm literally answering your question. Instagram is a dating app, take the L.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/25 03:08 PM
1

I did answer you. They use both. Instagram and Tinder. Instagram is a dating app, again you just sound more and more desperate.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/25 03:01 PM
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They use both. Plenty of women use tinder for the validation. You are wrong on this one, just take the L. Instagram is a dating app.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/25 02:56 PM
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And there are plenty of women who use tinder as a form of validation, not to hook up.... Instagram is a dating app.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/25 02:44 PM
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you are just wrong buddy
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/25 02:37 PM
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Instagram you better believe is used for dating purposes. And there are plenty of women who use tinder but have no interest in meeting up, but we wouldnt say its not a dating app. But instagram is indeed a dating app.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/25 02:35 PM
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there are plenty of women who have zero interest in meeting up with people from dating apps too, they just like watching the notifications pop up on their phone saying they have matches. Its like a form of net worth. Very few things on the internet is 100% used by everybody for the intended purpose. Tinder is used to validate via messages (hell its also used to promote only fans, those girls who use it for that dont want to meet up either) But no you are wrong, Instagram is a dating app
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/25 02:27 PM
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All social media is a dating app to a degree. Even instagram, twitter, discord, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/25 02:08 PM
2

in the social media age its more like top 5% of men > all women > bottom 95% of men
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/25 03:15 PM
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women dont have to worry about finding another shot. They have to worry more about safety and if the next person is at least as interesting as the person they break up with. Maybe for like women over 55 or so, but if you are a woman from 18 to 50/55 its literally download and app and put yourself out there. Being a single man is a much much more lonely and dehumanizing experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/25 01:53 PM
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the problem is a lot of men's problems are due to the fact that women don't really deem very many men attractive. If men focus on other things, they are deemed patriarchal bastards if they become successful. And these men are still lonely If they stop caring about anything and live at home with their parents well into their 30s/40s, they are losers. Eventually people need to own up to the fact that we DO owe each other things, the question is how much and to what extent.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/25 04:46 PM
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The "need to find yourself first" "need to love yourself first" etc is just gatekeeping relationships. I know people who have plenty to improve in themselves and they are in very reasonable relationships. Maybe they have the occasional argument, but what relationships dont. Its just gatekeeping and primarily told to men as a way to not have them notice that women dont really like men that much.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/25 04:43 PM
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ya, we all just like women more than men.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/25 07:04 PM
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and women have careers. They also have the luxury of quitting a career and taking time off and the opposite sex still is attracted to them.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/25 06:49 PM
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i do not believe its done entirely for male attention. I think its done because of women. Everybody wants other women's attention now. Go look at who women follow on instagram for example. Its mostly other women. Go look at who men follow on instagram, its also mostly women.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/25 06:47 PM
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its analt as in an alt. Alt account. Thanks.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/25 04:25 AM
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Women are outearning men now amongst millennials and younger.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/25 04:20 AM
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Women can hate men all they want and get dates from men. Women dont realize how much more social integration they get based just on their gender. Nobody really fears you. Ya you might struggle to reach the tops of socio economic totem poles, but in terms of having a more normal adult life experience, women have easier time accessing that. I know women who claim to be hetero and are more sexual with their female friends than any man in their life. We all just like women more than men tbh.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/25 01:27 AM
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No but u seem butthurt
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/24 06:02 PM
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before social media sure (2007ish). But before the 60s? Meh not as interested.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/24 09:30 PM
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It's pretty much the case. All these alt right YouTubers owe everything to incels
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/24 03:39 AM
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No, shes right. This shit has been around since gamergate/zoe quinn. Anita Sarkeesian was the prequel. Even if these guys have different beliefs, all of them. All of them owe all their money/success/fame/etc to incels/incel adjacent men, zoe quinn, and anita sarkeesian. The amount of people Ive met who say they watch ben shapiro because of "wrecked feminist compilation binge watching" is very high. Ive asked them if they watched those videos because they wish they had a girlfriend, and they all …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/24 03:15 PM
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Men would sell their body too if there was a market for ot
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/24 07:01 PM
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Agreed
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/24 04:20 PM
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I like how u specifically mention 2006 because I refer to 2007 as the year this all started
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/24 02:28 PM
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Nice 4 month reply
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/24 01:00 PM
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They arent. Women now are single, dating other women, or dating men they deemed "alpha" or whatever at the start but are stuck in a sunk cost fallacy so refuse to leave.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/24 02:02 PM
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They aren't interested. It's not in their head..
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/24 11:18 PM
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not because they are forced to
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/24 10:03 PM
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General rhetoric to women about men and how we are evil and responsible for all the worlds problems
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/24 07:35 PM
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The past 20 to 30 years does that
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/24 06:17 PM
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to talk about what the real world is doing.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/24 06:13 PM
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on the internet, ya it is
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/24 04:21 PM
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That's the internet, on a heavily botted site like reddit. Look at schools, workplaces, etc
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/24 03:33 PM
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That hasn't been the norm for like 20 years
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/24 07:57 PM
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I'm not a woman
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/24 07:46 PM
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ya thats my point
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/24 02:58 PM
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All of politics these days is sexual repression Most anti trans people are jerking off to them hardcore Most conservative men who are more normal about trans people are jerking off to AOC Most liberal men are jerking off to insert pick me right wing YouTube girl Articles have been written about how plenty of liberal women couldn't stop fucking trump supporters. 99% of the industrialized nations's problems would go away if people just had more sex, and as many people as possible had more consiste…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/24 04:40 AM
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I guess I need to do a Houston scouting mission
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/24 08:35 PM
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Perhaps. I do remember women being more interested in dating though in the late 90s vs today. I dont think it was necessarily because they had to back then, it wasnt THAT long ago. I think it was more a social event, while today women get a lot more overall attention online.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/24 01:32 PM
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Not to mention it has to lead to results. Women don't really seem interested in men anymore
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/24 01:27 PM
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to be fair, plenty of conservatives talk about sexual socialism in a way (hell that is monogamy), but then when it comes to the economy become laissez faire
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/24 04:11 PM
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its not political lesbianism. Most women seem to be bi/pan, especially amongst the younger half of millennials and zoomers.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/24 03:47 PM
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The problem is the solution to everything men deals with involves women changing, which is a big feminist no no. 1) Lots of people on the left, especially progressives, say we need to end gender roles. Ending gender roles for men effectively means you can lose your job and still be in a domestic relationship. That kinda involves women changing what they want in a man 2) Telling men to focus on themselves or to "be alone and find yourself!" crap is basically saying to men "do better in capitalism…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/24 07:49 PM
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Because people want relationships. You act like there is an infinite supply when there is anything but
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/24 02:56 PM
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Again, it doesnt matter. Thats what women want.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/24 06:01 PM
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They are already doing it. Whether it's successful or not doesn't matter. That's what women are doing
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/24 03:29 PM
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disagree. Women's sexuality has always been more bisexual
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/24 12:02 AM
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Women have careers now, younger women are out earning younger men for that matter. Women seem to enjoy female sexuality more now
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/24 07:46 PM
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not saying it isnt. Also women wanting to date women in droves more shrinks the available pool
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/24 05:38 PM
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Women will start dating other women. Women are already declaring themselves bisexual/pansexual/heteroflexible in DROVES amongst the later half of millennials and zoomers.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/24 04:22 PM
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were feminists even that loud this election cycle? Kamala barely said anything about identity politics, first woman, black, asian, etc. She handled that perfectly and people let her down. Latino men did white white men did in 2016. I've noticed that latino communities have been acting increasingly white with the men and women yelling at each other, when back in the early 10s their social communities seemed much more healthy. Asian communities in the USA are the only ones i see now with healthy d…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/24 07:23 PM
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Men dont want those freedoms because it seems like women don't really have much interest in men in the first place. Kinda hard to "explore" your sexuality when for most men that still means dating/sex with women. Women just seem to be more bi/lesbian/etc than men. Therefore most men these "Freedoms" are more "your life sucks"
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/24 01:41 PM
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I question if women really ever wanted men in the first place.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/24 04:02 PM
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Still a trend that is alarming
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/24 06:53 PM
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This might be the biggest difference between men and women. Women kinda have more access to the opposite sex romantically and sexually, so its not gonna be valued as much as friendships. Hell I know a lot of women who can't keep female friends due to women seeming to always need new experiences and what not.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/24 02:42 PM
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Women (especially millennial and gen z...aka the people more likely to be dating) are increasingly LGBT as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/24 02:31 PM
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That's probably true that gen xers and older grew out of (and maybe even the oldest millennials). But they also had more opportunities to move on from it. Now in this internet/social media age, you have constant reminders of everything
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/24 12:50 PM
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to be fair, a lot of feminist women do the same thing with the economy.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/24 03:21 PM
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most men amongst the younger half of millennials and all zoomer go to the gym now.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/24 05:27 PM
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sad way to look at the world, but if thats how you observe do yo thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/24 06:50 PM
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Sex is a part of healthy relationships keep in mind
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/24 06:38 PM
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Shouldn't assume it's purely sexual too then
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/24 06:34 PM
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its not just about sex. I deem them more attractive and want to actually you know....date? Eventually marry? Etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/24 05:19 PM
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Its a big starting point. Stop acting like its purely sexual and thats it. I deem a lot more women attractive, and want to more than just fuck her....
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/24 05:18 PM
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men deem more women attractive than the other way around. That is the main issue. The foundation of relationships
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/24 03:17 PM
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They say that as a cope
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/24 04:27 AM
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I have read. You are being emotional.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/24 02:36 PM
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youre being emotional buddy, might want to be more stoic. Says everyone when these topics about how women are more emotional than men come up.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/24 12:15 PM
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Who are you to decide too! Nobody views somebody laughing as being emotional, unless its laughing at something that is generally not funny (at an open casket funeral or something for example) Being emotional is when you lose control of your actions due to emotions, and men do that just as much as women. Extreme emotions (being unstable with them) is what everyone means when they say "you are being emotional". Not laughing a joke or nodding like you quoted. Cmon.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/24 03:19 AM
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Lol nah. Men's anger is definitely enough. Also who TF cares about smiles and laughs? What matters when we say "more emotional" is extremist expression of emotion, not some dumb laugh once in a while.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/24 11:26 PM
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women's sexuality kinda prevents this from happening. Women in general just dont deem enough men attractive to fix this problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/24 05:20 PM
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Sorry but it's true
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/24 04:30 PM
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no, i dont think they exist. Every woman is bi/pan/power/etc. 100% straight and 100% lesbian do not exist. Maybe 95% straight 95% lesbian, but not 100% no.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/24 03:40 PM
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I never really prescribed to either, but i also prescribe to both I generally lean RP probably, but hate the social media component to it. Things I agree with BP/Feminism on: Abortion rights are important Women are capable of leading/leading me in the workplace/etc "Women are the more emotional gender" is bullshit. Men are way more emotionally unstable in many ways, but for some reason they "dont count" because crying is the only emotion apparently. Kamala is WAY better of a candidate than Trump…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/24 01:27 PM
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There are more young men than women. Women are only 51% of the population due to senior citizens. There is a man out there for every woman. There is NOT a woman out there for every man.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/24 01:15 PM
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The feminist ethical system in general is about "the group". There is nothing wrong with this, but sometimes the group needs to be broken down into sub groups or individuals.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/24 05:19 PM
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Girls are catered to in the education system across all levels. From elementary to masters and phds.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/24 05:02 PM
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35, this is mostly when I was about 22 through 27
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/24 03:18 AM
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When I ask out a girl whose older than me and get the "Awe sweetie" type response, I usually think its more of a "awe your younger than me, appreciate the effort!". Meaning I have 0 change because of my age.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/24 01:02 AM
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Younger women are hotter, also many men dont have as many romantic/sexual experiences as women at 18 so i think we like to make up for lost time. Finally, I've asked out plenty of women older/make more money than me/etc. Ive been rejected everytime in an "awe sweetie" type way. I dont slay with women younger than me, but at least i have chances.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/24 04:19 PM
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The problem is the solution will probably affect girls overall numbers. I do believe in this day and age life is becoming quite zero sum
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/24 04:17 PM
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https://www.newsweek.com/american-men-dont-want-work-anymore-1897567
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/24 02:09 PM
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wage gap numbers are very very skewed though. First they dont include people not in the workforce, which men are increasingly dropping out of, and stay at home mom's are becoming much more uncommon. They also can get skewed by some sectors that pay really well, but most people (men or women) aren't in. Computer science in the 90s and 00s comes to mind. Younger women are outearning men in every major city at this point as long as you are comparing childless people. Millennials (a very large gener…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/24 01:09 PM
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plenty of teachers are talking about boys needing help. They dont do much other than the "we're raising awareness", but this problem has been known and at least discussed for a decade and a half now.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/24 01:04 PM
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bell hooks is well known for this criticism of feminism, just read any of her major books. Shes a pretty prominent feminist that many black feminists (and white feminists who desperately want approval) read. Shes a bit more reasonable at times, you should look her up and read her instead of just asking others for sources to try and win an internet debate later.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/24 01:02 PM
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Self improvement is also patriarchy in applied form
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/24 06:03 PM
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how old are you if you dont mind me asking, most women in their 20s/real early 30s are not that way at all. They are annoyed.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/24 07:28 PM
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my point is the its nature shit is a male argument. Women dont give a fuck about that shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/24 09:33 PM
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Most women are on birth control now and don't do the "I need resources for children" thing anymore. Most women don't even want kids
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/24 05:59 PM
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being aware that some women are gold diggers and then also focusing on being successful is for what? For a woman who isnt a gold digger? The focus on yourself meme is so overplayed. The problem is the internet has magnified the self improvement (which just leads to bitterness toward others and self loathing when its plastered this much all over the internet) bullshit so much that the advice is absurd and honestly quite stale advice too.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/24 12:50 AM
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Agreed on the first part, but the focus on yourself meme is getting stale. We're not talking about 22 year olds anymore, this subreddit is only getting older and older..hell id be willing to be it's mostly 30 somethings now. How much more focusing on ourselves do we need. Eventually we have to just own up to fact that men desire women more than women desire men, and this creates a patriarchal system way more than everything every wave of feminism has ever theorized combined
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/24 09:00 PM
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Older sperm contributes, but its not 'mostly' because of old sperm. Its aging in general, although idk if the older woman's eggs or older man's sperm contributes more
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/24 04:03 PM
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no, this is said all the time by redpillers. Its not that much of an increase. Hardly a strawman.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/24 03:37 PM
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I never said it doesnt. I'm saying redpillers think every kid is downs at that age. No, its higher but nowhere near to the level almost every redpiller thinks.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/24 03:06 PM
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thats way higher for the FIRST birth of a woman than ever. The only birth rates that are increasing are in the 30s. Keep in mind this means that anything after the first birth is likely to be a 30 something, and those children exist too.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/24 02:55 PM
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women over 35 is inching to the standard of births. And while it is a higher risk of down syndrome, its not some massive increase like redpillers think.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/24 02:30 PM
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Actually, the only area where birth rates are increasing in places like the USA are 30 something women.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/24 02:19 PM
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not as much as redpillers think.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/24 01:35 PM
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people act like 30 something is old. Most late 30 year old women can have kids, and no they aren't that much more likely to be down syndrome babies. If you stay in reasonable shape, which isnt that hard if you dont eat shitty foods 24/7, and maybe just do like 30 minutes of walking a day, you dont just become some ugly physically decrepit person at 38. Especially as exercise science and nutrition have gotten better over the past 20 years.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/24 12:55 PM
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Good luck finding a woman under 45 who isn't pretty far left. It's one thing to be left leaning and advocate for certain policies, it's another thing for it to be 100% your personality and angry at anyone who explains why they disagree. Conservative men these days are very similar fwiw
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/24 11:09 PM
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yep
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/24 05:17 PM
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gender roles exist because men have to work harder to get a date/romance/casual sex/relationships/etc. This creates patriarchy, and gender roles. Men like women more than women like men. Most women want to be left alone, most men are desperate for female touch, approval, wanting to wake up next to us, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/24 03:34 PM
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yep
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/24 03:32 PM
1

you are claiming its a conspiracy, burden is on you
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/24 03:23 PM
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burden of proof is on the person claiming its a conspiracy
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/24 02:56 PM
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burden of proof is on you bud
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/24 02:32 PM
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nope
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/24 02:26 PM
1

not a conspiracy. Your brain is lacking a fair bit tbh.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/24 02:20 PM
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more like brain development is lacking but take it how you will
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/24 02:11 PM
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i dont know who tf you are, so i cant say. Writing that out and posting it makes me think you are about 15 years old though.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/24 02:04 PM
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nope, it definitely is a thing on the surface. Feminists just have no idea why it is this way, so they are wrong about that.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/24 01:58 PM
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its not a conspiracy. Its just feminists dont really include sex and sexuality into the equation (probably because women always have access to sex and dates), so they dont know why patriarchies have always been the standard.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/24 12:58 PM
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eh, reddit saw its first big influx of non nerds around 2009 or so, so ya a bit later than 2007. But it was a fair bit before 2012.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/24 05:04 PM
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1) its illegal almost everywhere 2) it costs a lot of money, some people don't have that kind of money 3) Like you said, its about somebody actually wanting to grow with you. This notion that its "all about men just only viewing women as a hole" is projection that shitty feminists use to further their agenda, and "alpha males" use to mask their insecurities and look cool to 8th graders.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/24 01:21 PM
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I was going to say 2007, because that is the release of the iphone, facebook opening to more than just college/high schoolers, youtube being bought by google in real late 2006, etc. 2005 was kinda the last year of early age of the internet. Really 2001 to 2005 was its own era, a fair bit different than say the 1993ish to 2000.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/24 01:11 PM
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Then your original comment is worthless to the discussion
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/24 09:33 PM
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Ya South Korea and Japan are fucked. They have huge technology addictions sadly
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/24 09:32 PM
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Plummetting doesn't mean zero. Ordinary people who only use modern era (2007ish to the present) social media for photos and don't give any fucks about pills or whatever are having kids
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/24 04:20 PM
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the government helps out women, whenever corporations do anything (rare, but it happens) to help the "little guy" its almost always to women. The common man gets no help from anyone.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/24 01:20 PM
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most women dont want that
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/24 12:18 PM
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pro natalist policies dont do anything. You are on step 5 when step 1 is getting women to actually like a reasonable amount of men. We were told for decades things like "once women have good jobs they wont be so obsessed with marrying up" and "men can be nurturing and stay at home fathers, saying otherwise is actually patriarchy". This is all bullshit. The real is that women don't really like men that much, men get careers to impress women, women get careers to avoid men. However whats really fu…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/24 07:07 PM
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again, you are very insecure with the independent woman thing. Its andrew tate for women.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/24 07:17 PM
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most would argue (especially on the left) that is a very very narrow look at the world. And plenty of financially well off women still sadly get taken advantage of by men. You sound kinda like a conservative man right now. Your mindset is very capitalistic at the moment.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/24 07:12 PM
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If the woman has to hyper announce how independent she is (which plenty of these types of women exist), then i will label her as insecure. I've been right every time so far. There are plenty of women who are independent to a large degree, but probably still acknowledge their dependencies with how they live. Reasonable independent women. But those women tend to be fewer and further between. I am not asian for what its worth. Again, you keep saying i find independent women to be problematic. I don…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/24 06:52 PM
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most men are very insecure yes. Especially conservative men. Liberal women are very insecure as well. you are giving the most charitable definition to independent woman and the least charitable to everything else. There is a much larger middle ground than you observe between a hyper independent (again, to the point of insecurity) woman which many women are doing these days and subservient role with a man controlling every aspect of her life.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/24 06:23 PM
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just because i have a dislike (which im not sure i even have), doesn't mean my observations aren't true.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/24 05:20 PM
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True, but id argue at least among my age range (20s/30s somethings) the liberal women and conservative men tend to be the woke overly feminist women and hyper masculine "im an alpha male" men. Which are the types of liberal women/conservative men who have massive similarities.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/24 05:18 PM
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no, anyone who is that obsessed with needing to be perceived as independent is insecure. Nobody is, even career focused men/women need the company to not be doing illegal activities/people to provide their goods and services too Same reason why andrew tate is a very insecure man. im not even conservative. Kamala 2024. Never voted republican in my life. There are a lot of interesting similarities between liberal women and conservative men when you open your eyes though
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/24 03:33 PM
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I'd argue the hyper independent woman is very insecure in her own way though tbh. Also The neurotic or delicate woman will still reject me for some other reason. Women just aren't as interested in men as vice versa.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/24 03:26 PM
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This. I know so many women who are insecure as hell and they all have boyfriends. I think we gatekeep relationships from men a lot tbh, mostly because its just harder to get a woman interested than the other way around
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/24 03:13 PM
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I'd argue thats changing as women become more successful and men become more lonely.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/24 02:41 PM
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Women have an own group preference bias, so I'd argue its more than just sexually.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/24 02:41 PM
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So they arent as interested in men as men are women due to prevalence.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/24 02:34 PM
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not even close. Men want marriage way more, hence why divorced men get remarried more often.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/24 02:33 PM
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no need to be rude. Most feminists would disagree with you btw.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/24 02:31 PM
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I would at least go on some dates and see if she wants to build something more. And its not just attracted for sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/24 02:10 PM
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nope
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/24 02:00 PM
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nope. We might like/want sex more than you, but we are also attracted to you more. Men like women more than women like men, this is for dating, 50 year marriages, casual sex, etc
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/24 02:00 PM
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Your conclusion is wrong. You cant tell people where they derive happiness from
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/24 12:56 PM
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does that only mean relationships? Could you use the "As an adult, figure out how to..." apply to women wanting to have more of the 150k/year jobs too?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/24 12:53 PM
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most women can get a relationship easier too.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/24 12:52 PM
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most women can get a relationship with men easier too.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/24 12:51 PM
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You can tell the honest truth, women arent as interested in men as men are women. Its harder to be an attractive man in the eyes of women than an attractive woman in the eyes of men. You didnt specify this, but if your only reason for not encouraging suicide is because it makes you feel bad than its a selfish reason
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/24 12:45 PM
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That makes no sense. Nobody deserves complete freedom that simple
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/24 07:44 PM
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no human deserves complete freedom
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/24 10:33 PM
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Having more choices doesn't necessarily make your life better
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/24 08:41 PM
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There are more men than women aged 18 to like 55. The only reason why women are 51% is because of senior citizens
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/24 08:38 PM
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Women don't care as much in general, not just the attractive man stuff
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/24 10:40 PM
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Men want to be desired by women. Women don't care as much. Thats the genesis of all of humanity, especially gender roles.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/24 06:23 PM
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reasonable take, agreed. It can be either the man or woman's fault depending on the situation u described
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/24 03:46 AM
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Public policy is supposed to be equal. This is funding peoples sexuality
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/24 01:37 AM
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Does t matter how effective it is. It's funding sexuality
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/24 08:18 PM
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Dont have sex then
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/24 07:37 PM
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its funding sexual health. its funding sexuality. Birth control for something not related to sex is a thing and can be funded, but nothing related to sexuality, which plenty of PP is.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/24 04:40 PM
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It's publicly funding human sexuality. Sex is a need. No one individual owes me sex, but society as a whole owes legit effort to make sure as many people have access to a reasonable amount of sex
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/24 04:29 PM
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its still publicly funding human sexuality. Especially STD prevention and treatment. Also the same people who say sex is not a need would want allocations of public funds to abortions. STD prevention is still publicly funding sexuality as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/24 03:25 PM
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If its publicly funded by the government, people way more important than me define it as a need.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/24 02:50 PM
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i explained how society in a way views sex as a need.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/24 02:43 PM
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Its not just a thread. Its saying you believe that sex is a need in various circumstances, but not in others.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/24 02:34 PM
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its publicly funding human sexuality, saying its a need. Dont have sex then. Obviously rape is different because thats a crime involving somebody not consenting, but the vast majority of abortions are not from rapes.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/24 01:04 PM
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the vast majority of womens' sex drives are not as high as the average males. Most people dont want same sex. Well men dont, women actually seem to all be pansexual/bi/etc now. We all just like female sexuality more than male. Thats the issue.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/24 01:00 PM
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If sex is not a need defunding planned parenthood is 100% the proper decision.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/24 12:58 PM
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THIS. been saying this for fucking years. "Strong and independent woman" obsession is "I'm alpha" crap that men do
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/24 01:23 PM
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Being but no. Being in demand is being attractive
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/24 10:43 PM
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Being very emotional here, not very masculine. He's not simping
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/24 05:17 PM
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Yep, you are indeed a child. He's not simping at all, he's very blackpill
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/24 05:10 PM
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Its not. Hes not simping. You sound like a child. Its not confusion. The average woman is seen as more attractive by people as a whole than the average man. Go outside and observe reality.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/24 04:30 PM
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nah hes right. Its not simping. Everyone just likes female sexuality more than male, so the average woman will be seen as more attractive. Hes actually very blackpill, you must be very young to not understand what simping is and isnt.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/24 04:27 PM
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Both do that. Feminists are just way more subtle about it compared to conservatives
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/24 06:06 PM
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i am not
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/24 05:18 PM
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again, im not engaging in that argument so i dont care what others call you
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/24 05:17 PM
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Both men and women like to gatekeep relationships from men. Men do it because men in general struggle to attract women, so its competition. Women do it for yas queen feel goodism.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/24 04:54 PM
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Ive never called you a simp. Men do have to cater to what women want if they want a girlfriend/wife. At least to some degree. This notion that men or women shouldnt have to do any changing to attract a person is absurd and narcissistic.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/24 04:52 PM
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the word cuck barely means that anymore
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/24 03:55 PM
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Women not being attracted to non traditional masculinity will keep traditional masculinity alive more than anything else. Men want a romantic partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/24 03:54 PM
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There are a lot of women who will not date a man solely because hes a a month younger than them, shorter than them, less educated than them, makes less money than them, etc. That is why men get called simp, beta, cuck, faggot, etc by other men. If women dated/married/had sex with/generally liked men who were not traditionally masculine the "its other men" issue would go away.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/24 02:16 PM
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women can do the same to men. Ive heard women say Ryan Gosling and Chris Hemsworth are ugly/mid.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/24 09:10 PM
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Been saying for years, doctors can just look at an MRI alone and with like 97% accuracy know if it's a man or woman. This isn't new tbh. But if just one medical test can be that accurate alone then ya. The whole "it's just a social construct" argument has always been moral grandstanding btw
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/24 07:07 PM
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Nah it's definitely making men miserable, most are realizing it's a pipedream to live an optimal/near optimal redpill life and men get angry realizing they aren't getting there
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/24 06:30 PM
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Its also things feminists kinda tell women. Its crazy how modern feminism and redpill shit are very similar and overall making younger people miserable.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/24 02:54 PM
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but women literally admit to masturbating to that book so they clearly want something about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/24 10:29 PM
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ive heard feminists say that "men and women are the same and all differences are because of social constructs". Men can be very happy with a stay at home wife/mom, so why cant women?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/24 10:29 PM
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ive heard feminists say that "men and women are the same and all differences are because of social constructs". Men can be very happy with a stay at home wife/mom, so why cant women?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/24 10:28 PM
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Women do not deem enough men attractive to end the patriarchy. Ive been saying this for 15 years, and this sub has been obsolete since. There are two worlds, domestic and "outside". The domestic world for men is only available to men semi successful or better in the outside world. Feminists want more stay at home husbands and fathers, but the very sentence itself implies women will date/marry/fuck/be attracted to these men. They arent.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/24 01:05 PM
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I would argue 20 years ago. By the late 00s these problems were definitely happening.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/24 12:02 PM
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i disagree with that. I remember back in the financial collapse age up until the mid 2010s or so him being very reasonable https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UGQNc1Nrvlo https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WmjKNGsQG7g
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/24 01:28 PM
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Ya i noticed this to. I would watch a lot of panel discussions on tvo canada (canada's PBS) and he was actually on a lot of them. He seemed the most sane of the bunch in many panels. Then the mid 2010s happened.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/24 01:24 PM
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everyone treats men who have a stable romantic relationship better. Other men respect that he could find a woman who actually is interested in him, women view him as more attractive just because hes taken. Even studies show kids respect men in relationships more. Most men's experience is if they dont have women in their lives, nobody wants to be around them anyway. So yes, women are society in our minds.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/24 08:17 PM
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The whole "nobody owes you anything" phrase is just bs. Nobody reasonable is saying you owe your friends sex or some crap
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/24 12:45 AM
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That's an oversimplification that is a very 2011ish talking point.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/24 11:53 PM
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Nah, he's probably not a jerk, but just boring.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/24 11:33 PM
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Ya sure, but at the end of the day the man has more to lose, female attention is way more valuable and rarer. Most women l, not all, but most can get a bf within hours of opening herself to the outside world that particular day/evening/whatever. The man can't because women aren't as interesed
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/24 11:29 PM
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Because men, like women, want everyone else to change and own up to their mistakes but not for them to do so. Also I think men have zero tolerance for women who stay in abusive relationships because they observe that most women can find another man easier. Which for the most part they are correct on.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/24 10:52 PM
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He does, but he still is insecure because he knows she can find somebody else way quicker
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/24 01:28 PM
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Because men fear losing their girlfriend/wife, and she has way more options to leave. So he has to bow to her way more often than the other way around
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/24 12:03 AM
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Getting closer to 2 decades now
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/24 12:12 PM
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I hate when men say to women what they need to find fulfilling, but I also hate when women don't advance as fast as they deem "they deserve" it's always because sexism. It rarely is. People don't like giving other more power/wealth that often
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/24 08:53 PM
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men want to fuck women more than women want to fuck men, so men will allow women's feelings to warp reality. It is what it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/24 05:06 PM
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You have to find out what women in general want in a man. That's it. It's on women's sexuality. At this point we have the data. Men deem a lot more women in their lives as options than vice versa.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/24 10:34 PM
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women dont like men that much to message men. They dont deem very many men attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/24 07:31 PM
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keep in mind the view is at the youngest a middle gen xer (early-mid 50s) talk show. Really its for oldest gen X/youngest boomers. Their era is different than the social media world which took off around 2007ish. They live in a bubble that is (ironically a bit) conservative and behind the times.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/24 05:47 PM
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then they dont like very many men, and we cant spend all this time focusing on womens careers, womens issues, etc, because they can just get simps
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/24 01:59 PM
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work in a corporate environment, spend less time online. Yes the amount of people who are not as online is dwindling, but they are still there.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/24 03:31 PM
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Don't care at all about being masculine if I had a woman I'm attracted to interested in me.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/24 11:18 PM
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With how many younger girls are lesbian now....nah
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/24 01:02 AM
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I think the main thing men want women to understand is that this "patriarchal system" we live in is moreso based on women's sexuality (or kinda lack there of) than anything else. Men want a woman to like them, and going out into the world and doing stuff is the only option 90% or more of men have
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/24 05:37 PM
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Because a man desired by women integrates him into society a fuckton. A woman being single funnily enough integrates her into society more
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/24 04:21 PM
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I mean 30 and 23 is a bit of a gap, but it's hardly massive. Especially in the social media age of like the late 00s to the present, culture has kinda stagnated. Taylor Swift has been pretty much the top tier performer since 2008 for example. Marvel films being beloved happened for like 15 years, now every generation is bored of them. 30 is a younger millennial (34/35 is like the average millennial age now), 23 is an older zoomer (oldest zoomers are probably around 1998 births or so). I think pe…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/24 06:17 PM
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People want dates. Especially Gen zers who are late middle school through mid 20s right now
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/24 08:00 PM
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I think we all know the number isn't quite as large as that stat shows, but there are a few things that need to be talked about *A 29 year old girl with a 33 year old guy will skew things like this. There are way fewer relationships where she's 33 and he's 29. This also gets seen in reverse at say...single women vs men with 55+ year olds *Gen z women (this seemed to start with millennials) are way more lgbt than men *"Are we dating the same person" is way more common with women asking the questi…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/24 12:27 PM
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I think we all know the number isn't quite as large as that stat shows, but there are a few things that need to be talked about A 29 year old girl with a 33 year old guy will skew things like this. There are way fewer relationships where she's 33 and he's 29. This also gets seen in reverse at say...single women vs men with 55+ year olds Gen z women (this seemed to start with millennials) are way more lgbt than men "Are we dating the same person" is way more common with women asking the question.…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/24 07:48 PM
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mid 20s isnt what people are talking about here tbh. A 25 year old dating a 20 year old is barely a gap tbh. I think most are talking a 20 year old with a 32 year old or larger
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/24 07:33 PM
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they are the minority though.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/24 07:26 PM
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your "technicality" is wrong. You are using your autism as a excuse. When we talk dating, its 18 to like early 30s. So that's the population, not all 7.5 billion people on the planet or whatever. You claiming semantics is actually incorrect.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/24 07:20 PM
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18-30 is the prime dating ages though. Its misguided to say "just roughly 10%". Its similar to when people say "only about 3-4% of the population is lgbt", but that doesn't mean only 3-4% of gen z is lgbt.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/24 07:05 PM
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lol at this being worth a damn. Dating apps all have shortages of women. An app for autism is gonna have this problem more than every other app.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/24 08:32 PM
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everyone who says the "find yourself" "you arent ready", etc is gatekeeping relationships. That is the case almost all the time. Nobody is 100% ready for anything, it doesnt mean you don't do it. I know plenty of people in very reasonably healthy bf/gf relationships and they are far from "100% ready".
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/24 08:31 PM
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the internet caused a lot of the cheerleading though. You even mention it in your post. "every corporate media center has some profeminist message on their WEBSITE" Men want pussy, the internet spreads this "allyship" more than anything else, especially in the social media age of the past 15 or so years
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/24 03:57 PM
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so my argument is looks kinda create class, so like looks create class, which then is class >>> gender > race > disability
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/24 12:31 AM
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id say its good looking privilege is most important, because that will lead you to way more opportunities to improve your class status. But out of what you listed, its class. A good looking black male/female will have a better life than an ugly white male/female, especially in post 1960s civil rights era.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/24 12:17 AM
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pretty much this. Almost everything in the world revolves around this
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/24 06:13 PM
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This just happened to me.....now I'm apparently a bad person
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/24 05:46 AM
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ya maybe sometime soon.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/24 03:26 AM
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Disagree but thanks for the attempt to cheer me up
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/24 03:11 AM
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Male loneliness is definitely worse. Women are more desired socially everywhere than men. Most men are viewed with suspicion or predatory to start. Most women complain about men approaching them too much and being hit on too much
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/24 11:39 PM
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Don't bother. Women will never understand how much worse male loneliness is
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/24 09:27 PM
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He's not forcing you to have any feelings. You are projecting
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/24 05:44 PM
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It's not a desire to punish her. It's him trying to collect his feelings to move on. You are very narcissistic with how you view relationships
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/24 05:21 PM
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Because hes hurting and needs space to move on.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/24 03:01 PM
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that is an absurd generalization
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/24 02:36 PM
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LOL him distancing himself is not expecting her to serve his needs. Hes hurting....you can't be older than like 20.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/24 02:08 PM
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i never said you have to fall in love with anyone. People have to move on, and sometimes that requires the relationship to end. If he would never truly move on from you seeing you very often, wouldnt you feel bad because you are HIS friend? You seem just as selfish.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/24 01:03 PM
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You act like women don't leave friendships ever when the few times the woman catches feelings. Women are free to leave a friendship where she wanted more as well.....you seem very very young and naive about the nuances in life.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/24 03:28 AM
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Lol. You assume I'm just trying to sabotage her future relationships. No, I wouldn't. Stop assuming the worst in men or maybe people in general.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/24 09:26 PM
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Are you serious right now? First off, I'm not rooting for her to never find anyone, but yes it would hurt me to see her constantly bring it up.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/24 09:25 PM
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This. I liked this girl, she rejected me, and I ghosted her. I didnt do it as a power play asshole move, i did it because I didnt want to hang out with her while she's bringing up a new boyfriend, or whatever.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/24 07:15 PM
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That's the common sentiment, but I think it's mostly bullshit. If men are afraid of exploring same sex stuff because they fear women will not view them sexually anymore, then they still value female sexuality more than male and id argue they aren't as sexually fluid then
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/24 05:32 PM
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Women are more socially integrated. They will go out and do things with friends, family, other guys, etc who take their minds off things. Men have more alone time, and with that comes dwelling on the past
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/24 07:09 PM
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Online: easily women Offline: historically men, but in recent years the online world has taken over the actions of even the offline world so who knows
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/24 02:35 AM
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eh, i think women are a lot more sexually fluid than men. I dont think the fluidity is a choice, but they can somewhat change their attraction based on options being presented.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/24 04:39 PM
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I'd go as far and say the manosphere age of the past 10-12 years is turning women into bisexual/pan/demi/etc or even lesbian. I think women's sexuality is way more fluid than men's after listening to them talk.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/24 02:49 PM
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Well if she asks me to help her with stuff like moving I will if I can. But if she doesn't help me with anything of the sort when I ask her I do get frustrated because I do think it's a one sided friendship
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/24 07:31 AM
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I would love to meet a girl who actually wants to be my friend. The ones who enter my life don't want to date me, but also have frequently asked me to help them move but never are around if I need help with something
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/24 04:02 AM
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Women definitely act much more hivemind then men. Especially with things like music and politics.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/24 08:40 PM
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nope
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/24 07:10 PM
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Well I tried to keep talking to her. She went from hanging out with me every night on discord or irl to "I don't have much time to socialize right now".
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/24 07:06 PM
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Lgbtq is not single digits for later millennials and zoomers
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/24 12:42 AM
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Ok but the patriarchy is the inevitable conclusion to that
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/24 12:21 AM
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I reached out to her a few times, and she gave me kinda "corporate-y" sounding responses of "im busy" and "dont have much time to socialize right now". Since then I have been avoiding her pretty much completely.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/24 07:55 PM
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no. But im annoyed that she thinks the friendship wasnt real too. Two things can be true that i can care about a person as a person but also develop romantic feelings.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/02/24 07:31 AM
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This just happened to me. Knew her for a little bit, she even said to me once "try being friends with the girl first". It happened to her. Liked her as a person when i first met her, but then started to hang out with her a lot and told her i grew kinda big feelings for her. Now she thinks the friendship wasnt real lol. Fuck this.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/24 06:04 PM
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No they really arent anymore. They are saying that because being pursued is easier than doing the pursuing. This notion that there is some social pressure on women to not pursue is people thinking we are still in 1972 or some shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/24 02:43 PM
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1) its only 50/50 because of senior citizens 2) millennial and gen z girls are way more likely to be bi/lesbian than bi/gay males 3) women are sharing the same man and some do know they are/others dont. Women arent attracted to men to the degree men are to women.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/24 06:55 PM
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Single women are viewed as a commodity and integrated socially way more with less effort. Single men are viewed as potentially harmful to women, additional competition for other men, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/24 09:14 PM
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As somebody who this just happened to (i didnt really have feelings for her until over time), i will say people do kinda view me as a weak bitch for "not making the move immediately"
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/24 07:35 PM
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no it is ego. Its saying men are the ones who think they are 10s when they are fat fucks. But in the modern era its kinda women doing that
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/24 04:05 AM
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Amongst the younger population no
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/24 07:48 PM
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poly is growing quite a bit tho
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/24 06:36 PM
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we already see that actually the few times they approach and get rejected. They very frequently do the same thing immature men do with the get rejected -> "oh well your fat anyway bitch" thing that immature men do. Women will do something like get rejected -> "i bet you have a small dick", "youre probably gay" type stuff.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/24 06:34 PM
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whats funny is a decade or so ago there were images like this widespread to talk about male ego https://guidetowomen.files.wordpress.com/2012/04/men-vs-women-mirror-jokes.jpg?w=584
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/24 06:32 PM
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kinda off topic, but what if youre an older male with little life experience dating a woman. Im 34 with no experience and found out from a few people there was one girl who was 22 who was into me, but i didnt pursue because of the age gap and being raised by feminists who complained about things like this at family dinners.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/24 03:02 PM
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Im fairly anti feminist and yet I actually go full circle and agree with the most militant feminists that sex selective abortion aborting males would be irrelevant to society. Women need to compete more for men than the other way around, because men like women more than women like men. Hell if there were more women than men and polyamory was a thing, i think society would be pretty fine overall. Lots of women now are actually saying they like 1 man/multiple women polyamory due to safety reasons
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/24 02:49 PM
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it leads to em bud
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/24 12:40 AM
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It most certainly was my assertion. You are grasping with this "YOU MOVING THE GOALPOST HEHEHE" crap because I didn't specifically say "feminism working" Feminism is all about ending gender roles. its feminism 101. My original post remains perfectly proven.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/24 11:56 PM
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exactly, so feminism won't work sweetie
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/24 11:50 PM
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it would.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/24 11:47 PM
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My point is gender equality can never exist. Feminism will eventually destroy society just as easily as patriarchies have. You are correct, you cant deem these men attractive. But when women dont have 50/50 ratios everywhere, female CEOs, presidents, board rooms, or even just "the good jobs", its mostly because of women's sexuality.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/24 11:42 PM
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again it doesnt matter. Feminist, patriarchial. I'm more arguing for a soft patriarchy. Women obviously have rights, but careers are more male focused. Women need to deem these men attractive to end the gender roles. Its that simple.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/24 11:37 PM
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doesnt matter. even today in feminist societies the men have to work to be attractive. So women still have to date/marry/casually have sex with more men and deem them attractive to end gender roles. You still are wrong
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/24 11:30 PM
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That still explains the patriarchy.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/24 11:24 PM
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None of your evidence proves me wrong. I have already spoken myself. Men have to go out into the world and do shit. That's the patriarchy. Women don't.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/24 11:21 PM
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I did. You can't prove anything you've said. Women have to deem a lot more men attractive to end gender roles. Got it sweetheart
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/24 11:18 PM
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That doesn't prove me wrong. Women don't deem enough men attractive to end the patriarchy
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/24 11:14 PM
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Women's attraction doesn't matter is no society in existence. You are literally talking about NO society in the world
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/24 10:55 PM
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Not at all. Also Sweden is obviously more feminist. And yet it has no women in stem compared to India, Iran, Pakistan, etc. Men desire women more than women desire men thus men go out into the world and do shit to hopefully attract a woman, women don't need to as much and the patriarchy forms.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/24 10:44 PM
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No, I know exactly why these things exist. You refuse to listen to the male perspective at all
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/24 10:40 PM
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I've already said a bunch but since you refuse to listen A reasonable adult experience is a few sexual partners. When ur in ur late teens/early 20s it's more casual hook ups, when it's late 20s or so or later, it's longer term. Feminists say they want to get rid of gender roles for everyone, but women have the luxury of still being attractive to men being a homemaker. Most.men do not have that luxury. Men are always forced into working to have any chance with women, women don't need really need …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/24 10:35 PM
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It's both. Women need to deem more men worthy of casual sex and long term partners to end gender roles
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/24 10:32 PM
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Women don't really seem enough men attractive
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/24 10:30 PM
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It's not just casual sex. It's about a romantic partner as well
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/24 10:26 PM
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People want reasonable adult experiences and that includes platonic friendships and romantic partners
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/24 10:22 PM
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It leads to gender roles
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/24 10:20 PM
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downvote all u want, its true.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/24 06:16 PM
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The problem is the vast majority of the historical success women have contributed to society will be viewed as child raising and domestic, which feminists don't want to do anymore. Eventually feminists need to realize that in order to end gender roles women have to do things like date younger, marry men who make less, and even things like consider a higher % of men as casually dateable/fuckable
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/24 03:43 PM
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Women want men a tad older, make about the same or more, educated, taller, etc. This is the patriarchy in a nutshell
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/24 03:32 AM
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That's fine, but when the patriarchy exists because of women's wants then they can't complain
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/24 02:54 AM
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Not sure how old you are, but "ultra liberal" is pretty fucking mainstream amongst anyone under 35 or so
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/24 09:40 PM
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Lol I'm not calling it a conspiracy wtf. It's a bunch of lonely people not in relationships and get jealous they aren't in one. So the crabs in a bucket mentality stands. And all those other subreddits have the same mentality
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/24 02:04 AM
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been saying that for years. r/relationship advice is just "break up, break up, etc". Its a crabs in a bucket mentality
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/24 06:11 AM
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It benefits a small amount of men at the top of socio economic totem poles the most, then women as a whole, then the rest of men
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/24 03:15 AM
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Always hard to do, but way easier pre 2008 7/08ish or so
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/24 03:14 AM
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Most of those gen z not identifying as straight though are women. It's not even male-female ratio for gen z gays
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/23 12:49 AM
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gate keeping "just be alone and find yourself, you aren't ready for real relationships yet!" crap.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/23 05:35 PM
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I would argue this doesn't just apply to religious environments, but any extremist environment. My parents were both militant feminists ("men and women are the exact same it's all just a social construct!" type garbage) and it killed my self confidence. I'm now 36 and have never really been with a woman and have watched people a decade younger than me pass me by multiple times over now lol
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/23 02:59 AM
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Your life too
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/23 01:21 AM
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Life
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/23 01:14 AM
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Women in their 20s have way more extreme desires in men. Feminine twinks, douchebags, roided guys, etc. extreme behaviors lead to extreme relationships, be it good or bad
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/23 12:51 AM
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Not true, I think most women aren't really attracted to the men who they "should" be, especially in their 20s
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/23 11:17 PM
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They're all bad lol c'mon
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/23 08:12 PM
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I think you are overthinking it. Put yourself out there, find some hobbies and what not, and men will definitely be interested as long as you are remotely friendly. You might have to cut out the men who are a bit inauthentic which is an emotional labor, but the positives outweigh the negatives unless you are so obsessed with never being even remotely hurt by a relationship, friends, family, romance, or some other kind
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/23 07:05 PM
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for women, just in general putting yourself out there. You will have some good ones and some bad ones, and eventually you just cut the bad ones out
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/23 06:39 PM
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women can get meaningful relationships easier too though
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/23 05:43 PM
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single women will be in relationships whenever they are ready. Single men? you aren't single by your choice
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/23 05:42 PM
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People forget that a 40 year old was like 24 when modern era social media was taking off in 2007ish. Im 36, and I know plenty of people who haven't matured a day since they first got a iPhone, Facebook account, etc type stuff
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/23 02:40 AM
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women dont deem enough men attractive to end the "patriarchy" and "evil capitalism". Just be better to observe, vocalize these facts at times, but mostly adapt
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/23 06:04 PM
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the economy would be destroyed, as both capitalism and socialism require a healthy population pyramid
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/23 04:56 PM
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Individualism and "being independent" showcases how much we don't like it....eventually. The "be independent and find yourself" shit that (primarily) liberal women and conservative men say (to different demographics) is responsible for the vast majority of contemporary problems.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/23 07:29 PM
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and guess what, when you remove seniors its close to 55/45. You are being misleading
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/23 08:58 PM
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ya when you include senior citizens.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/23 05:39 PM
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because women dont really like men that much
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/23 11:52 PM
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I do I've done plenty of research
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/23 10:07 PM
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Yes, it was
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/23 09:45 PM
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and it was that way in the USA in the past. And Japan in the past. Etc. The "insane work culture" argument is minuscule at best, straight up irrelevant most likely.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/23 08:26 PM
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and Europe's birth rates are all declining still. It has nothing to do with insane work cultures. Birth rates were very high back in the factory days when workers had way less rights than today, or the mad men era of the 50s when workers had less rights than today, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/23 07:19 PM
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Slight nuances at most, but for the most part yes
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/23 05:29 PM
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They are the ones most ahead of the curve on this problem so they are the ones we should be looking at the most yes
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/23 02:11 PM
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Again, never once said men don't need women. You are seeing something over and over that I'm not saying.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/23 02:57 AM
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can you
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/23 10:08 PM
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we do
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/23 08:38 PM
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they arent though. They still need men and others to pair up to have kids to provide their goods and services. Its just pushing the problem down the road rather than this facade of independence. Unless her career is like subsistence farming or some crap, and technically even that requires that other people don't ruin the environment.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/23 08:10 PM
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nobody talks about the kids factor because nobody is having kids anymore
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/23 02:57 PM
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Never once said men don't rely on people. I hate the "I'm independent" bull shit, and it mostly comes from women tbh. Well some conservative men too. Really the problem is liberal women and conservative men
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/23 01:44 AM
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not for much longer is the point, and the drop off will be quite big and quite fast. All it takes is 2-3 generations of this (which were getting close to) to see pretty rapid changes.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/23 10:16 PM
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in most countries no. Also as boomers start to reach their 70s/80s, a very large generation will start to diminish.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/23 09:39 PM
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eventually though the economy will crumble because of this, because both capitalism and socialism require new people to keep things going. These independent women are still 100% reliant on others for her to provide goods and services to.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/23 09:38 PM
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no, its definitely proper gatekeeping plenty.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/23 01:12 AM
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self actualization usually will be "i want relationships, both platonic and romantic", so the problem still stands. This "just be alone and find yourself" crap is gatekeeping more than anything else.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/23 12:31 AM
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Individualism is the problem, not the solution
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/23 09:33 PM
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Russia and China are having similar problems with gender relations though, I think this is just a product of life being too easy and "were all the exact same its just a social construct!" stupid mentalities.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/23 03:56 PM
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The problem is these things do exist but have very few women in them
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/23 01:28 PM
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It seems like everyone wants men to fail in hopes of 1) Women want men to fail as some revenge fantasy/sisterhood strength 2) Other men want men to fail because "I'm the one she should be fucking" Its just fucking sad. A lot of people would be happier if we could just be more encouraging and happy to see others succeed (in life in general, but dating seems to always be the hot topic so that primarily i guess)
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/23 01:58 PM
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they are, but if its always a one way street than its not really each other getting help.
/r/AllPillDebate16/10/23 05:38 PM
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its not brainwashing. People like social connections. Wanting love is a social connection, arguably THE social connection. Platonic friendships AND romantic relationships are part of humanity
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/23 02:06 PM
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also who are you going to get to immigrate? This population decline is happening everywhere outside of a few countries.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/23 03:16 AM
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It was
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/23 04:53 PM
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Sexual desire has always been around, thus patriarchy has as well
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/23 04:46 PM
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Because your original reply was anything meaningful Patriarchy has always been around. Men have always had to go out into the world and do stuff to get women's affection
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/23 04:34 PM
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nope, you are just stupid
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/23 02:41 PM
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LOL this isnt the fault of the "patriarchy". This is the fault of women's sexuality. You act like the patriarchy is the starting point. The starting point is people's desires and goals, which leads to the patriarchy.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/23 02:20 PM
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most men are not. Some men are getting a ton more casual sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/23 02:13 PM
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Women are the gatekeepers of both, been that way since the late 00s/early 10s and the rise of social media.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/23 02:12 PM
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we're not. The gini coefficient is saying that most men are barely getting anything
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/23 02:11 PM
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there isnt. Women are only 51% of the USA because of senior citizens. In EVERY major US city there are more men aged 18 to 55 than women except one: NYC.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/23 05:23 PM
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its platonic friendships with men and women and romantic/sexual relationships with women (primarily, since most men are heterosexual)
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/23 05:22 PM
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most men are incels. Most men can not get dates/romance/sex whenever they want, including married men
/r/AllPillDebate29/09/23 07:21 PM
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depends on how feminist. Abortion rights im cool with. But "OMG YOU DONT THINK MEN AND WOMEN ARE THE EXACT SAME AND ITS JUST A SOCIAL CONSTRUCT?!??!" type feminists are fucking insufferable and stupid
/r/AllPillDebate27/09/23 06:20 PM
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this is nothing new, been known for years now. The world hates male sexuality
/r/AllPillDebate27/09/23 05:53 PM
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Redpill era was reasonable up until trumpish. It's been over and done for years now, not just since Kevin Samuels passed away or some crap
/r/AllPillDebate23/09/23 08:14 PM
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weve lost 2 generations now. Youngest gen Xers (mid 40s) All millennials (23 year olds to about 42 year olds) Oldest zoomers (18 to 22ish)
/r/AllPillDebate22/09/23 04:01 PM
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Rich coopers
/r/AllPillDebate22/09/23 01:05 AM
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No one is saying they should. But when society doesn't play out the exact way feminists want it to either, it's not because of the reasons they say
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/23 07:22 PM
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The scarcity of women's attention does this. Men hang out with other men frequently as a cope. Men want women, women want women, we kinda all prefer women's attention
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/23 11:17 PM
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i deem a lot more women 18-45 attractive than 5%
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/23 07:19 PM
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normally id agree, but as the economy becomes more and more automated, AI, and the semi-rise of more minimalistic lifestyles, im not sure if there is enough "good jobs" for both men and women to come out ahead anymore.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/23 07:16 PM
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They have. Men get careers throughout history and still today to maximize their attractiveness to women. Women get careers now to avoid pairing up with men they aren't 100% satisfied with, which is pretty much all men. Women will find any reason to deem a man unattractive, men will be like "well she's cheated on every bf before me, I'll make it work" Men like women more than women like men
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/23 04:59 PM
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men having male friends is important, but it does seem to be a dating/romance with women first and foremost. Most men by their early 20s want to wake up next to a girl who wants to be with them more than their bros they slept over and played Call of Duty with as a cope because none of them have girlfriends.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/23 04:06 PM
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Hard disagree. I actually think only women can solve it. The male loneliness epidemic is mostly just do to a couple of cold hard truths: Women are doing better than men now economically, especially 20, 30, and even some 40 somethings Women just don't really like men that much (or at least nowhere near as much as men like women) Women can be integrated into society way easier than men, because men like women's presence in most places more than women like men's presence at places. I know so many w…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/23 04:02 PM
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Lol at thinking yahoo personals is anywhere close to the scope that tinder or Instagram is. The smartphone made online dating acceptable. People forget that before the late 00s or so meeting a romantic partner online was considered lame and pathetic
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/23 12:32 AM
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Lol
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/23 01:02 AM
1

something is only productive if it makes money or is physical?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/23 07:58 PM
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working out, data modeling, and GASP video games
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/23 01:59 PM
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Women's hobbies more productive LOLOL
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/23 10:37 PM
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initial perceptions lead to longer term integration. If people perceive single women as safer, they will be included and given chances to prove themselves
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/23 05:05 PM
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Single men are viewed at best as blobs, at worst you are viewed as incel-ish, "what's wrong with him", feared (if you are a larger guy especially), etc. Single women are almost praised as "waiting for what she wants", men view her as "omg she's single wow maybe she'll be interested", or not giving into the patriarchy to some degree
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/23 04:29 PM
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It's not other men's fault entirely. A lot of men don't want to be deemed feminine by women too because they get desexualized by those women
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/23 03:32 PM
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It's true. It's always been this way, but way more so since the real late 00s or so with the rise of social media. People say bad shit about incels all the time, but I'd argue they are the focal point of the world economy
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/23 03:30 PM
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This. Single women are way more integrated into society than single mem
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/23 03:27 PM
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How old are you? I'm in my mid 30s and it's not an even playing field
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/23 03:47 PM
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First half of the 00s was fine, by 07/08ish the problem of today was starting. So no
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/23 06:15 AM
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Maybe so, but the vast majority of reddit users are gonna be in a first world country
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/23 10:14 PM
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ill be honest, in this day and age i think men will happily commit/marry more women than the other way around too. This whole "men are the gatekeepers of relationships" is cope. Women are the gatekeeps of sex and of long term commitment.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/23 07:19 PM
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"if the math has to even out overall and there is a 50/50 M/F population distribution where is the missing piece?" This is actually not true. There is about 100k more men than women in every age number from 18 to 55. The only reason why women are 51% of the USA is because of senior citizens.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/23 05:18 PM
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Women thinking they are exclusive with a man but that man is dating multiple women is probably the main reason, but other reasons I think are: 1) Increasing amount of LGBT younger women. Historically there usually was a very small larger amount of gay men than lesbian women, but millennial and gen z lgbt women are outnumbering the lgbt men. 2) Theres probably a lot more 33 year old men dating a 28 year old woman than there are a 20 year old guy dating a 17 year old girl. High school in general i…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/23 05:16 PM
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It's very much relevant to the discussion. It explains the patriarchy, society, history, etc. Again you are still acting like that careerless women = no question starvation and suffering. That's the truth for men, not women
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/23 10:53 PM
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Social media opened it to men..women don't need careers anywhere close to men needing them to have an adult existence. The economy is like the third layer of the problem....caused by the first layer (I deem way more women attractive than they deem me)
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/23 09:40 PM
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again, women without careers still have a better day to day quality of life than men without careers. You are not looking at the whole picture, just the straw man you are choosing to beat up on.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/23 08:38 PM
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no, social media let the cat out of the bag.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/23 08:27 PM
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its not sudden. They dont like very many men, so men then go out to the world and control the economy more. Economics is not the starting point, women not finding most men attractive is.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/23 08:25 PM
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its not true. Women not working still can get boyfriends who will work for them. Men like women more than women like men. More likely to settle, but people need to settle. If you are looking for 100% satisfaction with your spouse, you will never find one. Women need to settle more. Men have way shorter lists than women do for dating, marriage, and casual sex (not just casual sex) Careers just matter more to men than women, get over it.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/23 08:16 PM
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its not about just being respected. Men not working = nobody taking care of them. Women can find PLENTY of men who will treat them right when not working. There has never been a time in human history where womens' homelessness has come close to mens', especially mens' today.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/23 08:11 PM
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it is an arguent. if peopole dont respect you they wont provide for you. Plenty of women throughout history were working and were not being abused by their husbands.... Women just dont need a career anywhere near to the level men do.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/23 08:00 PM
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well you need to, its not random, its frequently mentioned on this very sub. Women have never deemed men very desireable, social media just unleashed this info to the vast majority of men. Men need careers more than women do, even most women agree to this. When men get careers they deem more women attractive, when women get careers they deem fewer men attractive. read up on the paradox of choice, its very very important.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/23 07:49 PM
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because these companies want to appear gender equality focused, when men need careers more than women do to be respected. Its not even economics, its men are just not desirable. Economics is the consequence of that. And no, read up on the paradox of choice. Limiting women's options would actually cause them to be more interested in men.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/23 07:02 PM
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they were limited to a much smaller area of men, and the workplace still kinda prioritized male employment before social media optics took over.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/23 06:58 PM
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social media is everywhere. The internet (especially the in our pockets era) reversed everything people believed in past eras. Its not economics, its not the west/east. Its the internet letting the largest cat ever out of the bag: most women do not find most men attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/23 06:25 PM
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there really isnt a lot of 35 year old women who want to date a 23 year old man.
/r/AllPillDebate16/08/23 02:18 PM
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i have to ask though, if you are so me multi millionaire....why the fuck are you even here? Spare me the "to help" crap. You have millions and are posting on an incelesque subreddit?
/r/AllPillDebate15/08/23 07:29 PM
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peak gym culture is a bubble about to burst. Its not some epic path, and i see so many younger people burning out and quitting. If you are doing it obsessively for 2-3 hours a day/5 days a week and then going home and spending hours on youtube/instagram gym culture shit you will burn out and become bitter. Go to the gym for an hour or so a day, 4 days a week. Go hard for that hour, track YOUR numbers, and then maybe read an article or two a week about how to improve. Stop making it your fucking …
/r/AllPillDebate15/08/23 07:27 PM
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testosterone + social media jealousy + the general feeling society is coming apart and men fearing they never got to live a fun life. The 3rd part of the equation is probably caused mostly by the 2nd part. Its crazy how if instagram, tiktok, onlyfans, youtube, twitter, facebook (2007 to like 2014 at least, now its kinda a zombie site) and of course the primary vessel to use them (smartphones) never came about how many more people would be stable and happy. Imagine being a 20 something in the 80s…
/r/AllPillDebate01/08/23 03:24 PM
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they are by half the country. Being overly loved by half the country might be worth it, especially if you live in a major city. Ya just dont go to bumfuck arkansas and you are fine.
/r/AllPillDebate01/08/23 03:14 PM
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wrong. Its 100% truth. Men have to go out in the world and do shit to be respected, and people want to be respected, its part of our brains.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/23 07:35 PM
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it isnt wrong. Its because of what women want in men, and men go out and do it because we like women liking us. Therefor 50/50 ratios can not be obtained due to our brains. Not just womens'
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/23 05:42 PM
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it isnt wrong. Women want men who are ahead of them socio economically for the most part. Because men have to go into the outside world and do things to be respected, women dont.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/23 02:42 PM
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No I'm indicating they don't have to be. Men have to be because women don't respect men who don't strive to move up the ladders of society. Men aren't wired too look for that in a woman
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/23 01:54 PM
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everywhere, stem representation, senators, CEOs, business owners, etc
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/23 04:22 AM
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no, it was used to say "how dare you say 50/50 ratios shouldnt exist", which they shouldnt because men and women have fairly different brains
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/23 01:52 AM
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eh there kind of has. Blank slate feminism is pretty rampant in younger crowds. For a while saying men and women's brains are different was considered sexist in the eyes of a lot of feminists.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/23 07:51 PM
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its only gotten worse bud, you are just grasping to find anything to nitpick. 2013 isnt that long ago, and the trends are only in my favor.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/23 04:58 PM
1

read it, youre just wrong
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/23 08:29 PM
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i did, youre just wrong
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/23 08:23 PM
1

nah, youre just wrong
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/23 08:17 PM
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not at all. Women are increasingly less interested, and now the past few years men have been too because women reject men way more than men reject women, now men are just trying to save face.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/23 08:08 PM
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because theyre not attracted to guys much anymore, dating game is on women's terms
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/23 08:03 PM
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the dating trends have been in my favor. You are grasping. You go find it if you are so confident things arent even more skewed.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/23 07:31 PM
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if you think the new data proves me wrong, show it. This is what i was able to find quite quickly, and id be willing to bet you are just delaying the truth. Go find it yourself if I'm so "out of date", when ALL the trends say things would even be worse now for men
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/23 04:36 PM
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the trends are more in my favor.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/23 04:35 PM
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Are men doing well on campuses? Even with the short supply from what I read people aren't really dating or fucking much at all
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/23 07:19 PM
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Ya easily. Also lol at she's 23 but looks 19. Like that is some huge age difference physically unless you literally did nothing but drink beer and eat donuts
/r/AllPillDebate22/06/23 04:00 PM
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I mean if you think that data from 2013 is so old that it's irrelevant and if anything the trends of 2013 are only larger, you are wrong. Go look it up
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/23 03:53 PM
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the data would be in my favor even more. The trends have only gotten bigger since 2013
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/23 04:41 AM
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if anything the data would be even more in favor for me
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/23 04:40 AM
2

couldnt it be both
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/23 04:32 AM
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we didnt lose focus, women did. Women don't use instagram to connect with friends and family, they use it to farm likes and follows, which is the new currency and net worth of our era. And of course they also know that more likes and follows can lead to ad opportunities, aka actually currency and net worth.
/r/AllPillDebate20/06/23 02:19 PM
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its true. The dating problems of the current era were around before tinder took off around 2013 or so. The late 00s were already seeing these issues en masse.
/r/AllPillDebate20/06/23 02:17 PM
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Instagram isnt really for men period.
/r/AllPillDebate20/06/23 02:16 PM
1

eh it does if you kinda read between the lines
/r/AllPillDebate14/06/23 02:56 PM
1

weve known this since 2007 as well.
/r/AllPillDebate14/06/23 02:42 PM
0

nobody says that unless they are trying to score equality points
/r/AllPillDebate14/06/23 02:08 PM
0

nah, 2007 was when all this shit began.
/r/AllPillDebate14/06/23 02:07 PM
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good luck ever being any of those things
/r/AllPillDebate14/06/23 01:32 PM
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congratulations, you are living in 2007, aka realizing that men want sex more than women + posting on it on centralized internet.
/r/AllPillDebate14/06/23 01:21 PM
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women would be fine. Women seem to be way more sexually fluid than men (spare me the "there is exactly the same amount of bi men as women"), so plenty would pair up with each other.
/r/AllPillDebate07/06/23 07:44 PM
1

We're not overpopulated, get over it
/r/AllPillDebate01/06/23 12:36 PM
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Nah. We're not overpopulated. A few corporations are the vast vast majority of the problem. You are wrong
/r/AllPillDebate01/06/23 12:47 AM
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I have backed it up. You just keep talking and won't admit you are wrong. We're not over populated.
/r/AllPillDebate31/05/23 07:07 PM
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no you have, you have issues good luck understanding reality
/r/AllPillDebate31/05/23 03:42 PM
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90% of climate change is because of a small handful of corporations. Were not overpopulated.
/r/AllPillDebate31/05/23 02:55 AM
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Almost all the climate change issues is because of a few corporations. No most humans arent individually causing problems
/r/AllPillDebate30/05/23 04:32 PM
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Nope. We're not overpopulated. 90% of climate change is at the hands of a few corporations. You can't just keep saying "I'm stating facts" and be right. You're wrong
/r/AllPillDebate29/05/23 06:36 PM
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We're not overpopulated. 90% of climate change is because of like 10 corporations I never said the population needs to grow. It needs to sustain itself at a similar population. Otherwise the economy (including all these empowered women's careers) will collapse. You are putting words into my mouth. But no, we aren't overpopulated
/r/AllPillDebate28/05/23 08:38 PM
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Again, were not overpopulated. Corporation greed and lack of oversight is responsible for all of these problems. Almost all of climate change is because of a few unregulated companies.
/r/AllPillDebate28/05/23 05:09 AM
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No, we aren't really overpopulated at all. Peoples greed might be a problem, but the earth can easily fit this many people. You are fear mongering where it isn't necessary
/r/AllPillDebate27/05/23 08:51 PM
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not joking at all. Earth is fine at the moment. We can easily sustain this amount, only thing stopping us from doing so is corporate greed
/r/AllPillDebate27/05/23 05:05 AM
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were not overpopulated. Not yet. Yes if birth rates were something stupid like 4 or 5+ per woman all over the world sure, but were not even close to that
/r/AllPillDebate26/05/23 05:21 AM
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They can hover around 2.05 which is replacement level. But very few are even there
/r/AllPillDebate25/05/23 09:27 PM
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YES LOL
/r/AllPillDebate25/05/23 05:35 PM
1

there is some degree of choice
/r/AllPillDebate25/05/23 03:37 PM
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they might not be sexually attracted to those men, but thats not necessarily a reasonable comparison there is some degree of choice in sexuality
/r/AllPillDebate25/05/23 03:26 PM
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the problems are: if the population pyramid is overwhelmingly old people the economy will suffer And if people want relationships/families/sex, then you are telling people to suffer socially and mentally in order to "lower the population"
/r/AllPillDebate25/05/23 02:49 PM
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because men seem to be straight or gay (most are straight). Women are the much more choice oriented sexuality
/r/AllPillDebate25/05/23 05:43 AM
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yes it does
/r/AllPillDebate25/05/23 05:42 AM
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the world population is slowing down in most major countries, and many places starting to shrink. Also people are living a tad longer, but thats old people and not really the future.
/r/AllPillDebate25/05/23 05:41 AM
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all women seem to be bi, men seem to be gay or straight.
/r/AllPillDebate25/05/23 05:40 AM
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Fluidity does mean though it's chosen to some degree
/r/AllPillDebate25/05/23 02:16 AM
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https://www.health.harvard.edu/blog/sexual-fluidity-and-the-diversity-of-sexual-orientation-202203312717 Especially seen in women
/r/AllPillDebate25/05/23 01:35 AM
0

So they overcome it by doing stuff in the outside world, adding to the patriarchy. The only way to end the patriarchy is for men to have more access to dates/romance/casual sex/marriage/etc
/r/AllPillDebate24/05/23 11:53 PM
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Sexuality is more of a choice than people think. Also 90% of women end with men is true, but that is still enough to increase the amount of men who will never find anyone
/r/AllPillDebate24/05/23 10:12 PM
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Feminism pushes individualism for women as much as capitalism does for men if not more. I don't think there is enough ways for individualism to work
/r/AllPillDebate24/05/23 09:54 PM
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Won't happen. People don't like going back in lifestyle Also telling men to overcome their desperation for sex is unfair for men
/r/AllPillDebate24/05/23 09:50 PM
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nope. Depopulation leads to less people existing which means youll have too many chieftans and not enough indians. Depopulation leads to economic contraction by the very definition of economics. It needs PEOPLE. This way everyone gets to decide for themselves without being coerced in anyway whether to be in a relationship or not and those who choose to be in a relationship will have the freedom to have one working spouse while the other stays home to take care of the kids. Also women dont want t…
/r/AllPillDebate24/05/23 08:07 PM
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Because men who went into stem are socially more on the spectrum
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/23 09:53 PM
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this. Dating apps are bad for most people's mental health, but general social media is the bigger problem by far
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/23 08:10 PM
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i actually think a lot of white nationalist men hate their own women. Its weird, a lot of these white nationalist males (well observe) i meet go through a life path of get rejected by women of their own race in their teens/early 20s think they need to restore the white race (even though youd think they would do the opposite since they were supposedly rejected by half of the race) get (usually asian) girlfriend she eventually realizes hes fuckin lame, leaves him
/r/AllPillDebate17/05/23 01:10 PM
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Because women aren't attracted to men as much as men are to women
/r/AllPillDebate09/05/23 05:30 PM
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Ending of gender roles has to lead to a healthy sex life. It doesn't for men
/r/AllPillDebate09/05/23 04:58 PM
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I love how stupid feminists are. They will literally say men need to focus on other things and then at the same time demand more women in positions of power everywhere
/r/AllPillDebate06/05/23 03:02 PM
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Rollo is a grift. He's saying whatever his audience wants to hear for money
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/23 08:58 PM
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you cant, but thats the point. The patriarchy is here to stay, trying to legislate it away via goverment will never work.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/23 03:24 PM
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be more attracted to a higher % of men. Acknowledge that what you (women) want in a man pretty much entirely explains the patriarchy (be older, make good money, educated, physically fit, tall, exciting social life, etc).
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/23 05:40 AM
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Spend less time on the internet. Learn how to teach yourself new things.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/23 06:27 PM
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who tf says 7/24
/r/AllPillDebate22/03/23 03:46 PM
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it kind of already is, pre covid maybe not but it was growing. Now it somewhat is. Genetic determinism in general is on the rise
/r/AllPillDebate22/03/23 01:27 PM
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ya i go on speed dating events frequently, and as a guy I get asked by the women almost immediately what my job is. Almost always its as an icebreaker (as you said, we spend 40+ hours a week doing it, as much as people say you are not your job you kinda are to an extent), very rarely does the woman come across as scoping you out because shes a gold digger.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/23 04:05 PM
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Thanks same to you
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/23 05:38 PM
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I noticed how many times my family (especially my mom) would complain to him how hes not "feminist" enough, since he doesnt really do many chores/housework/etc, and how "men and women are the exact same its just a social construct!" crap kept spewing out of my mom/brother/sister's mouth. I then said you need to fuck dad more then if men and women are the exact same. At first my dad was kinda mad at me for saying it (because hes whipped by my mom), but then he got a little bit of confidence to sp…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/23 05:26 PM
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I once told my mom in front of my family (dad - dick between his legs pussy, brother semi autistic, sister die hard feminist) that she doesnt have sex with dad enough to end the patriarchy. My entire family, especially my mom, havent looked at me the same ever since.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/23 05:14 PM
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Because they saw how much money and time these red piller types are getting, they want in on the money. Right now the two best ways to make money are: 1) Be a hot girl on instagram who doesn't commit to men 2) Be a fuck bitches, women are cunts "guru" on the net. Of course the mainstream media is a bit less misogynistic, still doing the "we need to redefine masculinity" routine that hasn't worked for 50 years now.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/23 05:10 PM
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the problem is thats the patriarchy, so its not allowed as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/23 03:23 PM
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Ya I agree that women loosely defining what being single is (whether its because they truly are doing it or because they want to say they are seeing someone even though deep down they know they really arent) is the biggest culprit. I do have concerns with the amount of women who just seem less interested in men as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/23 03:22 PM
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its honestly many reasons, not just women dating older or women sharing a man. 26 year olds dating 32 year olds (most likely the woman being the 26 year old skews the data) Younger women are more likely to be LGBT than men, especially when factoring in the B part There are just more men aged 18 (all the way up to 55 actually) than women in the USA. Women are only 51% of the population due to senior citizens. Those are other reasons to include. When we are seeing this much of a gap between men an…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/23 02:52 PM
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1) getting laid might mean they had sex 1 time in the past year (what the stat normally comes from). Getting laid stats should be "getting the amount of sex you want" 2) A lot of those stats exempt virgins. Meaning 70% of men who have been laid once in their life have had sex in the past year. But when you add virgins to the studies, it would drop more.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/23 06:13 AM
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the problem with that is you just explained the patriarchy. Men: go out into the world and do shit, then the women will follow Women: "why are men all the business owners, high ranking officials, leaders of hobby groups?!??!"
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/23 08:28 PM
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it seems like it. I mean were not talking being able to just point at a woman and be allowed to fuck her. But it does seem like men need some level of intimacy than is sexual and most men want women. If we need to care about gender equality in the workplace/business owners/start ups/government/etc, then we need to care about men not getting sex to some degree yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/23 07:26 PM
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If men stopped caring about the approval of women our world would collapse.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/23 05:43 PM
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This. 70% of men are getting laid is such a misguided stat for so many reasons
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/23 05:08 PM
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society forms because men want to be sexually attractive towards women, not the other way around. Im so tired of this "we need to move men away towards wanting sex". Its such a stupid talking point. Large amounts of men arent getting ANY sex. What are they just supposed to not care about something thats a pretty normal want?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/23 03:29 PM
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if you fucked up in life and were a bit failure to launch as a male in the past, you werent completely behind. Now as our population ages, there are fewer younger women who might still be impressed by you if you are 25 and she is 21. Declining young population is a big reason for these dating issues.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/23 04:07 PM
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no we arent
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/23 01:50 AM
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No it won't. Who are you going to provide goods and services too if they don't exist. Population need to skew younger and at least replace themselves
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/23 04:58 PM
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I don't see that working. The internet is the cheapest form of entertainment these days, especially for women (men have to pay to get their accounts boosted on dating apps). Recessions make things worse now
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/23 04:55 PM
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There's not 117 million people in the USA aged 18 to 34. There's about 65 million. Also every article written about this explicitly states that bi women are by far the biggest reason increased LGBT numbers. It's not proportional. https://www.statista.com/statistics/241488/population-of-the-us-by-sex-and-age/
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/23 06:08 PM
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they are identifying as bi. Its up to you to prove that they are "Bi in name only"
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/23 04:13 PM
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Look at young people. Gen z.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/23 02:23 PM
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even tho bi women are way more likely to pair up with men, it still doesnt take away from the fact that bi women do pair up with women, which shrinks the dating pool.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/23 06:16 AM
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see i disagree with a lot of this. I think we all just kind of sexually desire women more. We view them as life bringers, elegant, graceful, tender, etc. We all just view them sexually in a more acceptable way. I think even hetero women somewhat sexualize women a certain way even if they prefer men. I also dont think among the younger half (90s births) of millennials and gen z (late 90s and 00s births) there is an equal amount of bi and gay men as there are bi and gay women. I think a lot more b…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/23 04:30 AM
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there isnt among younger people. Bi and les women outnumber bi and gay men by a lot among gen z
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/23 04:25 AM
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So lots of bisexual women are faking it is what you are saying?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/23 02:18 AM
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there are other reasons id argue, but i agree with your reason as well: women dating other women. More women (especially 20/30 somethings) are identifying as bisexual there are more men in every age bracket than women until you get to senior citizens. For example women are only 51% of the USA because of the 65+ crowd
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/23 11:34 PM
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again, some are. But i think people are overstating this number because they demand 50/50 ratios everywhere
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/23 10:19 PM
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read up on sample sizing. 657 LGBT individuals is more than enough to predict with 95% confidence a population sample size as large as the united states
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/23 08:05 PM
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no. the article specifically says its bisexual women fueling the rise in gen z queerness. I dont care about the trans and non binary shit right now, it clearly states its bisexual women fueling this.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/23 06:56 PM
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The article in the very first post of the topic says how gen z is increasingly queer, and this is mostly from bisexual women. Pew's 2013 study is outdated at this point, a LOT has changed in a decade. 2013 saw the beginnings of this (late 00s/early 10s), but its not 2013 anymore. Every other report you have mentioned is worthless, since were talking about men/women dynamics and not really generational. The under 30/35 crowd women who are interested in same sex relationships is much higher than m…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/23 06:19 PM
1

Youre not a prisoner
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/23 06:03 PM
1

ga state/ga tech?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/23 05:58 PM
1

Youre not a prisoner
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/23 05:47 PM
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amongst the younger generations thats not true. The bi + lesbian count of women is much larger than the bi + gay count of men.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/23 05:42 PM
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Its a bunch of things. Women are increasingly bisexual/lesbian. There are still more gay males than lesbian women, but bisexual + lesbian women is larger than bisexual + gay males. Also about 30 to 35% of girls under 40 are identifying as lgbt, thats not the case for males. You can say "well some men are afraid to come out", eh i disagree. I think that is moreso people who say that have this radical obsession with 50/50 ratios everywhere. Women give up more in sex, since their body is altered. T…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/23 05:39 PM
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youre not a prisoner
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/23 05:27 PM
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that even if your choice loses the vote, that you will abide
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/23 04:36 AM
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people vote. It is what it is. You are agreeing to these principles and still are owing people something
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/23 11:06 PM
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the state is people. The government is people. Taxes are paid by people.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/23 08:16 PM
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because men and women don't know what its like being the opposite sex. Women probably need more social networks, so even though they have more, they still might not have their needs met? Also social networks can be addicting. We easily see this with likes/retweet/follows culture online, it can be the same offline. I think a lot of men don't even know what its like to be invited to places that much, having texts everyday from multiple social circles, or seeing their notification tab number go up …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/23 08:13 PM
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The phrase nobody owes you anything is the dumbest phrase ever uttered.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/23 01:54 PM
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If the women aren't interested in men men can't find love
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/23 05:21 AM
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U love that 1 link, it's barely any women
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/23 10:18 PM
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Children don't exist without pussy
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/23 09:35 PM
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Nobody cares dude there aren't women in Ukraine anymore just get over it
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/23 09:30 PM
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Lol if u think that proves your point. 25% lulz. Many I'd be willing to bet are fem preferred bi or just lesbian.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/23 07:01 PM
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All 9 of em
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/23 03:48 PM
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been saying this for a while, the women and children are gone.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/23 06:15 AM
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this is just demographics and statistics. Height is a great example. Men prefer women like 5'2" to 5'9". Thats about 90% of women. Women prefer men 6'0" (is it 6'2" now idk?). Thats about 15% of men.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/23 05:57 AM
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It's not 50/50. Among non senior citizens this country is a sausage fest. Women are only 51% of the usa because they are overwhelming the amount of the over 65 crowd. There is a legit shortage of women. Also this doesn't factor in how young women are very likely to be leftist and possibly lesbian. Historically there usually was more gay males but among zoomers I'm not so sure, I see a lot of lesbian couples
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/23 06:56 AM
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David Reimer's life and death disagrees with you. Also, if our brains were exactly the same then transpeople wouldnt have any argument, and the way we nutured as people for thousands of years wouldnt of developed.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/23 02:22 PM
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not entirely different, but the things we are different arent going to change by yelling at the opposite sex or demanding government legislation.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/23 08:05 AM
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ALL
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/22 12:34 AM
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/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/22 07:09 PM
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/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/22 06:24 PM
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thats all is it not
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/22 04:41 PM
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All of em
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/22 04:30 PM
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every church is strange
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/22 03:11 PM
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yes!
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/22 03:02 PM
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nope mostly incels!
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/22 06:34 AM
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moreso on Sunday!
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/22 03:45 AM
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not really filled anymore, just incels
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/22 01:52 AM
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Nothing
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/22 12:27 AM
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thats all thats left
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/22 11:14 PM
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incels mostly and really really old families who think it still matters.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/22 10:25 PM
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christmas cope bra. Churches are dying and just an incel cope for lonely men
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/22 08:31 PM
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Pretty much. It's just now used for incels
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/22 07:44 PM
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Families are barely going to church these days, it's an incel haven now
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/22 04:50 PM
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Bunch of incel copers
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/22 04:43 PM
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They are.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/22 03:22 PM
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And the most who are hypocrites are coping.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/22 02:34 PM
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nah, most use it as a way to feel better than others but dont practice what the preach
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/22 06:29 AM
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The "people are remaining virgins because they are religious" is a cope. They are attending church more in hopes to meet a girl
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/22 10:36 PM
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men lie about their sexual conquests, god pill is a cope. You have no idea what you are talking about.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/22 06:42 PM
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that last part is circular logic. Most people (average) are describing themselves as very lonely, close to half of young men are now single and going a year+ without sex, women are increasingly depressed, etc. Most people are not "doing fine". This is not just angsty teens.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/22 03:32 PM
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most are not. Most are miserable.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/22 05:15 AM
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It's also increased human purposeless and there is a lot of evidence that the internet is making people miserable, it's just addicting
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/22 04:59 AM
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Efficiency is bad for everyday American. That helps the elites way more.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/22 03:18 AM
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Automation is only going to ruin lives. It ruins purpose and eventually will cause humans to become rabid
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/22 10:46 PM
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we do have to deal with those things. Modern medicine is only going so far btw, life expectancy is going down in many places. Also people might not admit it, but they kinda want families. "Fuck having kids" people are ruining the world just as much as people who need to "spread their seed" and have 7. The population needs to be at least at replacement level to keep systems and the overall economy functional.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/22 09:48 PM
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natural as in "i dont want kids and family", perhaps i worded that wrong im sorry. We are "more peaceful" really? Eh its debatable. Also we aren't healthier at all, we are on more drugs that is catching up to people quickly. Life expectancy is starting to go down due to a lot of physical and mental health issues. You can't have an economy thats healthy in a aging population as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/22 06:40 PM
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not when economic infrastructure has been built over 20 years. There has never been a period of time where weve seen a natural population decline. It wouldn't just be "well we were fine 20 years ago"
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/22 06:23 AM
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Life itself requires that. Some capitalist business requires new people to pay for business lost when people die. Life itself is a ponzi scheme.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/22 06:20 AM
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social security isnt really a ponzi scheme, we know where the money is going. If social security is a ponzi scheme, then it could be argued that life itself is a ponzi scheme and I would argue that you are overly blaming something like social security.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/22 08:45 PM
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birth rates have been plummeting. More people are living to 80+ years old than ever, but they will eventually die and will not be replaced. This problem appears like a non issue right now, but the problem is looming
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/22 08:43 PM
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So in conclusion, not having kids is what is ultimately good for humanity. It should be a personal choice that is not affected by outside pressure. You eventually will die. We are already seeing economic problems from having an aged population here in the USA. Also, if your country is dying, you and your career mean jack shit because you need people to provide goods and services too. Its like that one scene in the office when Ryan brings Michael to his school to speak, and in classic Michael fas…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/22 08:42 PM
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prostitution should be, obviously over 18
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/22 04:14 PM
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its rife with abuse because its illegal. Make it legal and it can be regulated
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/22 03:54 PM
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pretty much spot on for me as well. Leftists become capitalist bootstrappers all the time when talking about dating issues (especially for men). Conservatives then argue we need "equality" in dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/22 02:47 PM
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dismantling capitalism is dismantling human nature. People want to stand out, see their work advance their life, etc. Hell even the twitch socialists frequently say/do things to gain more followers, the modern era form of net worth.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/22 02:44 PM
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the internet was created by the department of defense.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/22 02:42 PM
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going to the gym is capitalism. Not in the most completely traditional way, but especially in the social media age where so many people are using the gym as a way to build followers and what not. Self improvement is capitalism.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/22 02:39 PM
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men dont necessarily like capitalism, but we know its our only chance to get a woman. As a man you have to stand out in some way/shape/form, aka capitalizing on your time and labor. The irony is I know so many leftist feminist women who are "all about their career" (aka capitalizing on their labor), but then say how much they "hate capitalism its so evil!!!"
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/22 02:37 PM
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and when society collapses because the country and world becomes a geriatric old folks home, your "i make my money im an independent woman" shit will be just that. If there is nobody to provide your goods and services your career offers, then you will see why this problem is more than just "men too horny euuuu".
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/22 04:58 PM
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red pill itself prob peaked in the mid 10s sometime, but red pill philosophy is massive now. Andrew Tate is basically red pill, but does he use that exact term.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/22 05:31 AM
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collapse level is under 2.05ish. Japan's population is already declining as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/22 02:50 PM
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Women's preferences = 6 feet and above = about 18% of the population Men's preferences = between like 5 foot 1 and like 5 foot 9 = about 95% of the population Its a numbers game
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/22 10:23 PM
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What does loneliness have to do with women? Your isolation is self-inflicted. Women have extensive social support networks because they preserve healthy platonic relationships with other women. No, women just are viewed as less dangerous so everyone includes them more. They get way more opportunities to be social. It takes two to tango.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/22 04:50 AM
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Most are bi or lesbian now
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/22 03:30 PM
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being obsessed with emotional intelligence and not realizing it stems from being more socially liked
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/22 12:49 PM
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asexual people are a very very small % of the population. People want sex, and its very necessary for a fulfilling social life for almost everyone on this earth and you know it.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/22 11:09 PM
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comparing sex to cigarettes is fuckin sad on your end. And as a whole, we’ve actually depedestalized relationships and sex before. People are marrying later and refraining from sex longer. Teen pregnancies and marriages are lower as well. Again, people want sex. Its part of a normal social life. If you’ve heard of Elliot Rogers, you should be aware of the dangers of pedestalizing sex. If you’re not aware, it’s probably a good idea to research his victims and humanize them a little bit. If you ar…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/22 11:07 PM
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not cheaper no, because youd have to make sure everyones tests are done properly.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/22 10:36 PM
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people want it. You can't de pedestal anything. It wont work. fuck this self love shit. People want social acceptance, and part of that is sexually. and ive fuckin heard of eliot rodger wtf. Are you seriously thinking people on reddit dont know these people by now?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/22 10:35 PM
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its a necessary part of one.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/22 10:34 PM
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because its easier to keep people on a similar learning curriculum so there is some level of consistency when they reach adulthood
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/22 07:04 PM
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the primary purpose of school is to teach young people basics. Just because "we arent very good at it" (which isnt even true as some schools do very well means nothing.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/22 06:18 PM
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Schooling is first and foremost, a daycare for children during their most rambunctious years. Its also to socialize boys and girls in the formative years. If it was for education, we aren't very good at it. no. That is not the primary reason for school.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/22 05:53 PM
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thats not the primary goal of school at all. If it was they would make sure people are dating and trying hard to set people up there, which they arent.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/22 05:32 PM
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people want sex, stop telling them they "secretly dont want it, find other stuff brah". This whole depedestalizing sex aspect of the left needs to stop. I'm not entitled to sex, that socialist leftist is not entitled to publically funded daycare. Humans are social beings and this stoic behavior isn’t healthy. a healthy social human is healthy not just platonically, but sexually too.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/22 05:05 PM
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People manufacture so much bullshit in relationships. They aren't that hard, just understand that its not always about you.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/22 04:27 PM
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Capitalism is the solution for these men. If nobody owes me a relationship, then nobody owes you some progressive publicly funded healthcare bullshit.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/22 04:25 PM
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you better be a libertarian then, and not some libertarian socialist bullshit.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/22 04:23 PM
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not to mention all the women who are leftists and claim "you arent for publicly funding child care, health care, etc? You are evil!", the answer is....you aren't entitled to anything. The phrase "nobody owes you anything" crap is just that. Feminism promises that its for everyone, and it isnt.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/22 04:22 PM
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Yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/22 06:23 PM
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Almost all of it, yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/22 03:40 PM
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People still want reasonable adult experiences, and that means they have to do things masculine (males) to attract women. Women have to do things feminine to attract men. The need to not die alone (which drives most human behavior) creates masculinity and femininity. If men can get pussy living in a box and women can get dick they desire burping and farting and being obese, then yes your shit would hold value. Telling people to just "do and be whatever you want!" is such garbage tier advice that…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/22 02:24 PM
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They exist, get over it
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/22 12:55 PM
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1) There are more men than women in the USA when you remove senior citizens from the equation. The only reason why 51% of the USA is female because of the over 60ish crowd, and while historically that demographic of people is smaller (due to deaths), boomers are very abundant. Hell the boomer population didnt peak in the USA until the 90s (you would think it would be the 60s when the baby boom ended), mostly because of immigration. We are an old folks home. 2) A LOT more women are dating women. …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/22 02:56 PM
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better than almost everywhere else yes, especially the 18 to 35 male crowd. Not sure how many 20 something males can afford NYC LOLOL
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/22 11:15 PM
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NYC is where women complain, because there are so many girls who move there for the sex and the city life + the only men there were there before rent skyrocketed the past 15/20 years or gay males. What straight women complain about in NYC is basically what straight males have to deal with everywhere else in the USA: the demographics are not in your favor.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/22 07:59 PM
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that number is going down. How old are you? Most early 20 something males have no dates
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/22 03:07 PM
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People forget how many women are lesbians now, especially amongst the under 35/40 crowd. On my floor alone there are 3 lesbian couples. Were this many women "in the closet and afraid to come out" all along? Like I dont get it
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/22 04:20 PM
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public is more tolerant towards women's issues because we want to fuck them more than they want to fuck us. Hell even women want to fuck other women now, way too many lesbian couples these days for men to even have girlfriends
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/22 05:47 PM
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that, but its other things 1) Lots of bi and lesbian women now 2) There are more men aged 18 to like 60 in this country, women are only 51% of the US population due to senior citizens being overwhelmingly female
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/22 02:32 PM
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No policy will fix that. What will fix that is only is women can still sexually respect men they "pass by" in the business world
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/22 09:32 PM
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The apps were always short on women
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/22 09:28 PM
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nothing is "socially constructed" everything is a product of neurological impulses, which is biological
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/22 02:20 PM
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Men and women not getting along much is definitely a massive cause. The biggest? Maybe but most likely not. The only? Obviously not. But its a big issue yes
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/22 03:34 PM
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Elanor Roosevelt was pretty fuckin ugly but I still think when she was the only chick on those UN security councils and shit in the late 40s she was pretty fucking badass
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/22 05:51 PM
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sounds good, let me know when you plan on it
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/22 10:12 PM
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I think you should offer them no strings attached sex and see what happens
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/22 01:25 PM
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Make it clear next time. Also what lbs are you
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/22 03:23 AM
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Never said they aren't bi. Bi can still prefer one gender over the other
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/22 06:56 PM
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most dont. Most still prefer women
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/22 05:54 PM
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Did you state that the sex was coming with the food? Also how much do you weigh? Obese women I'll admit are sexualized like men....not much/if at all
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/22 01:48 PM
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again, offer them sex straight up. Btw usually men don't offer the female friends sex, maybe somebody they barely know. Usually its the woman who has to offer a male friend sex. Also if they are taken, thats a different story
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/22 12:49 PM
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Youre a woman, you have to offer it first since men don't want to be seen as predatory
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/22 11:39 AM
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There is. Your a woman, you can get sex way easier
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/22 10:59 PM
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women need more healthcare? Old men's healthcare might be taken care of, but younger mens' sure isnt.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/22 06:00 PM
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planned parenthood
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/22 05:02 PM
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Preferential treatment in hiring, education system is for girls strengths now, public spending goes to old people and women, etc. Younger males are the most screwed over people
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/22 04:23 PM
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No, because they get preferential treatment at times. Companies want women badly right now and younger males are getting screwed over
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/22 04:15 PM
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The problem is feminism isn't a 1 stop shop to all the worlds problems and many people on the left (men and women) think that it is
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/22 03:54 PM
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they do
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/22 01:48 PM
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They dont want sex from me.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/22 01:14 PM
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He probably still wants a relationship though and says "i like my sovereignty" as a cope. As evidenced by he still dated till he let himself go.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/22 01:09 PM
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thats a bit of a stretch demand, and demand somewhat creates the hard cap, so there is a hard cap.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/22 01:08 PM
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not really. They might appear to be happy to the outside world because of personal pride, but most are lonely as fuck. Hell, this is kind of explained by how so many MGTOW dumbasses never shut up about women. They still want one and are coping. Everybody copes.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/22 01:00 PM
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Teach boys that there are worthy dreams, goals and aspirations to be had outside of getting laid and they'll be happier overall. This is correct, but the issue I see is it somewhat contradicts feminism. Feminism wants 50/50 ratios everywhere these days, and some men are going to have to sideline their dreams some women can achieve theirs. We can't all be business owners, doctors, CEOs, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/22 12:59 PM
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Its quite simple. Younger males (millennial and gen z) are way too overly blamed for "patriarchy" and "evil capitalism". They are bitter. And rightfully so. Their actions are not justified, but honestly the shittiest demographic throughout human history has always been younger males. They have to wait to get dates (women tend to pursue/be pursued by older men). Hell with the increasing % of women who identify as bisexual and lesbian (while male %s are staying the same for decades), there aren't …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/22 12:54 PM
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they would look at me and say either no sweetie or euu i never viewed you like that. Women dont really get sexualized. And your friends probably didnt pick up on the fact that you were also offering sex if you were.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/22 12:46 PM
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They would have sex with you if you offered no strings attached
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/22 10:07 AM
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that they arent into me, because they arent.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/22 07:53 PM
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not safe to assume that at all
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/22 07:16 PM
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they might if u just flat out say sex
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/22 06:01 PM
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