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i agree with you. Hes claiming "you can't do math" and then says a completely non statistical analysis. Doesn't even realize its a nominal gap of 29 and keeps saying 50.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/26 02:07 AM
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No, younger men dont think that way. Most men and women think if they are dating somebody for 3 months they are in fact...not single. I meet plenty of men at work, parties, etc. The ones dating in a relationship for a few months do not describe themselves as single.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/26 01:27 AM
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i dont think men who are dating view things that way. Most men i know are pretty quick to announce if they are in a relationship. Especially the younger ones. I think you are ignoring the data at this point.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/26 01:23 AM
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theres a few reasons for it, that being one of them an 18 year old guy is less likely to date a girl whose 16/17 which wouldnt be that bad, but the social environments are a fair bit different if the 18 year old is out of high school. But like you said, a 28/29 year old woman being with a 33/34 year old dude happens a lot more. there is slightly more men than women amongst all age buckets until senior citizens. The only reason why women are 51% of the USA is because of old people being overwhelm…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/26 12:58 AM
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its also a stupid phrase. We are owed things by each other. Common decency is one of them.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/26 02:24 PM

you didnt say anything. You said just a blanket statement. And continue to do so. You type like you are maybe 16.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/26 06:34 AM

you havent come up with anything either.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/26 06:15 AM

I think you might be a bit young and naive about it tbh
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/26 01:07 AM
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i dont think women get a pass as much as you think they do. Yes, hot women will get advantages for sure, but i think you might be over exaggerating when you say 'basically everything'.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/26 02:42 AM
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ive heard both extreme feminists and redpillers say thing such as "i dont have a solution, im just showing the problem" in discussions fwiw.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/26 08:05 PM
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the "nobody owes you anything" crap posts strikes again!
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/26 03:01 PM

late 20s. It was more pronounced in my early 20s for sure, but i still see it today. People are more socially stunted than ever was my reasoning for it, as evidenced by a lot of the right wing youtubers who are late 20s (fuentes) or early 40s (tate) still acting like 17 year old 'edgelords' But if you are gonna say "women grow out of it" you are probably right, but it still affects people when they should be dating, socializing in general, meeting new people, maybe a few hook ups, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/26 08:54 PM

I hear it from women my age a noticeable enough amount of times with comments like "i didnt hate him, but he was kinda short" type stuff. Its a factor.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/26 08:37 PM

eh, i know a few women that want the 'above 6 feet' benchmark. Which last i checked is about 80th percentile. Yes the average man is about 5 inches taller than the average woman, so this issue about the man needing to be taller than her isnt a big issue. But for a small but noticeable enough amount of women, its her wanting a man thats taller than most men
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/26 08:13 PM
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patriarchy is basically just "men have to do things in the outside world to get dates/romance/sex". If stay at home husbands actually were sexualized by attractive women, then the patriarchy would go away. Do we live in a patriarchy? Sorta ya. Is it for any of the reasons why feminists say? Not really, no.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/26 06:10 PM
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some advice still holds, but yes plenty of it is outdated in the social media age. Really it started with the 90s born millennials, but semantics.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/26 06:38 PM

None of it adds up because its not math. Women have desires and some men might even get a date with the woman but after the date starts there was nothing he could do to actually win her over. The main issue is this and this alone: women arent interested in general. Thats it. This subreddit is so fucking irrelevant, been so for 10+ years.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/26 06:37 PM
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If she actually views you as a friend, nothing is wrong. That means she will put effort into the friendship. But what i notice is being friendzoned by a woman usually means she doesnt even like you as a friend. Some ways to tell if she ACTUALLY views you as a friend She'll want to hang out and do something with you when shes in a happy state, not just when she's depressed She'll maybe try to set you up with a friend of hers She'll want to talk to you even when she doesn't want something from you…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/26 03:08 PM
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Watching a sport will help u get better at the sport. Surely you're smart enough to know this
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/26 12:07 AM
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ya i can see in one night stands it being a little bit less social for sure. Ive never had a one night hook up, all my sexual encounters have been with a woman i had dated or at least knew for a bit of time though
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/26 09:16 PM
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well that hasnt been my experience, but teto
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/26 08:30 PM
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you backtracking. You said watching sports don't help you play the sport. Then acted mad that you cant watch sports alone to make the NFL, which is a strawman to what I said. But you better believe watching sports will help you play the sport.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/26 07:13 PM
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using professional level football as the starting point is laughable. But you better believe watching football will help you throw a football better. Visual learning is part of learning. I mean god damn have you ever seen Tom Brady and Bill Belichick discuss game film? They did that plenty
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/26 06:41 PM
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I think thats an over exaggeration on men's expectations from women. I havent had a ton of sex in my life, but every woman ive been with has been willing to give me advice on her specific body and mental desires and I've worked with her to usually make her enjoy the experience. It takes time and her to actually be interested in sex, but most women I do believe want to engage with him, at least the women Ive been with.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/26 06:06 PM
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watching sports definitely will help you play the sport
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/26 06:03 PM
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I think there are a lot of men out there a bit afraid to ask what their girlfriend/wife want because a lot of men take pride in being able to "satisfy their woman like we are reading her mind" or whatever. Women need to communicate what they want, men need to be more receptive. The bigger step before all this though is getting men and women to be in healthy social environments in much higher amounts, and fuck the internet and social media. Also, to be fair to us dudes, the thing we pleasure on t…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/26 05:10 PM
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fair. I mean insecurity like believing in climate change is not masculine, so they are insecure about believing in it because its something women do, or 'gay', etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/25 07:23 PM
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Meh those are more other (important, but unrelated) topics. I thought you meant 'other climate change' related sources. And I'm saying a lot of men who are loud climate change deniers are insecure, which to my experience is the case.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/25 04:58 PM
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other sources of what? That climate change isnt real? Those 'other sources' against climate change are these massive hoops of conspiracy nuts with one massive common denominator: men insecure with themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/25 04:10 PM
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in this day and age, its becoming zero sum very quickly. That was a passable statement pre social media and now AI era, not so much anymore.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/25 01:53 AM
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a lot more men are gonna need those welfare programs then women if current trends hold up
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/25 01:37 AM
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Ya there is surprisingly a lot of overlap between rp and bp, its just the subset of people who give vs take orders is different. I generally lean left on almost all issues, and even side with feminists on plenty. But I do bring up how subsets of the people on the left also need to make changes too a lot of them become "nobody owes you anything" capitalist bootstrappers. When i debate with right wing people (lets be real, mostly men), they have a lot of fear. Climate change is real for example, b…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/25 09:11 PM
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Even if we decenter women, us focusing on other things will contribute to the patriarchy...perhaps even more. We focus on creating new businesses: "Where are the women entrepreneurs....we need 50/50 ratios" We focus on nerd shit like video games, comic books, and DnD: "Where are the women game designers and next edition DnD designers" We focus on education: "Colleges are seeing more men then women after years of women beating out the guys in enrollment, this is regressive" etc
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/25 08:04 PM
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The problem with this is it 100% explains the patriarchy which feminists (and really, all of women these days) complain about. If I do not have access to the domestic world but still have 24 hours a day, one of two options exist 1) I go into the outside world and become successful, which then i contribute to power imbalances and patriarchal systems 2) I fail in the outside world, and then need government assistance to live, otherwise feminism will actively contribute to death. Most feminists see…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/25 07:59 PM
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Its also just women are less interested in most men. Awkward men can still get dates if they make up for it in other ways (especially genetics). I'd argue those relationships dont last particularly long though I also know a lot of women who could use some self improvement as well, but they tend to have boyfriends.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/25 07:10 PM
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Only 1 in 4? For the later half of the millennials (pretty much the 90s born ones) and zoomers I think itll be close to 1 in 2.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/25 03:50 PM
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self improvement is important, but its not really the main thing to get a girl. Its mostly just used because conversations about guys not being able to get dates/romance/sex are awkward, and its an easy way to avoid the actual conversation.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/25 03:31 PM
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This is explaining the patriarchy a lot though
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/25 09:12 PM

Not at all. Hes bringing up terms like incel. Incels (or whatever term was used back in the late 00s) were more than just school shooters in the late 00s. Im arguing nothing has changed much for about 20 years now. There are issues with the dating game, but this notion that social media wasn't polluting men and women's brains (just in different ways mostly) by the late 00s is absurd. The only difference is it was facebook and youtube in the late 00s. Now its TikTok, IG, and youtube. But the issu…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/25 05:50 PM

It was not. It was already everywhere on the internet. The term incel maybe was not, but thats surface level vocabulary and not the meat and potatoes.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/25 04:49 PM

This has been mainstream since 2007 or so. Definitely by 2009. To act like 2019 was still "baby steps era" for this is absurd. Its mostly a product of terminally online culture. Which red pillers say they hate but most keep spending all day on social media themselves
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/25 04:43 PM
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I think a lot of the pushback is that a lot of men were raised now (under the age of 40 or so) that "all differences between men and women are a part of social constructs". So women should be approaching more often based on this obsession with 50/50 ratios alone that feminism had for a fair bit of time. I will say one thing that 4th (arguably we are in a 5th wave of feminism now as i think 4th wave was around 2007ish to maybe covid/just after covid) wave feminism has done is started to realize t…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/25 07:12 PM
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Hes not. Its mostly insecure men who think this way. Honestly women lead most of the relationship. Men are just the fall guy if things fail edit: i guess we lead how the basement looks
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/25 02:32 PM
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social media polluting everyone's time and brain started before 2012.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/25 05:09 PM
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They mature about a year faster on average. Also due to the fact that women want men about 1 to 5 years older than them, it kinda forces men to wait a tad longer. We just say mature faster to keep the peace ever so slightly in this gender war
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/25 04:50 PM
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both
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/25 05:12 PM
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acting like hes just a child in the relationship if you are the one leading the income.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/25 02:55 PM
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I know some men who would feel emasculated, but most who wouldnt. If you are having good sex and actual fun, and not completely belittling him all the time for earning less, i think most men are fine with it from the get go or will get used to it. The woman has to not treat him like a kid, which I do think the woman does sometimes.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/25 02:50 PM
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Agreed, but the problem is so many young people spend so much of their time online. I'm not sure where somebody fresh out of high school is supposed to meet people if you didnt go to college.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/25 02:38 AM
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and a social media dating app that was government funded would actually serve the opposite purpose. Its there for the citizens, but the goal would be to get people off the app asap, as its taxpayer funded. In theory the fewer people who need a dating app, the less it takes to maintain it, at least somewhat less.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/25 04:15 PM
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im not sure how "big ass and thighs" you have. But it sounded like the "exceedingly" was on the big thighs side, which might be harder. Do you have to be a stick? prob not. But thunder thighs might make things difficult.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/25 10:59 PM
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nah, shes right on that. Taller women (like 5'10" and up) have it harder
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/25 05:25 PM
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I'm not sure the big ass and thighs look fits with taller women. That might be some of the problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/25 05:24 PM
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Well i mean a lot of men have been passed over by the education system, and benevolent corporatism these past 25/30 years..... There are only a finite amount of "good jobs" (the modern equivalent of say....85k a year or more). Women are apparently entitled to at least 50% of them now.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/25 01:44 PM
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kinda the same thing tbh
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/25 07:10 PM
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Because women would rather be single than be with a man they dont know much about. A single woman is viewed as an asset to society, a single man is viewed as a liability.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/25 07:22 PM
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Women just aren't interested
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/25 04:33 PM
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its not just taxes and government. Its all of capitalism too. Also once birth rates go below replacement level for too long it becomes very difficult to recover.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/25 02:08 PM
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that too, but its other women, other men as well. Women act like a prize to be won despite hating it being described that way.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/25 09:31 PM

yes
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/25 07:04 PM

Not in the city i live in
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/25 06:52 PM

Most women I know who have >10 partners seem to only want men who are at that number, or a tad lower. Granted I only know 2 women who have told me their number is greater than 10 so the sample isn't large, but ya
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/25 06:44 PM
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not to mention the vast explosion of lgbt numbers is from younger women. 30% of girls under 30 identify as lgbt now. Sure a bisexual woman still pairs up with men most of the time, but all men are competing against even women now.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/25 06:19 PM

eh, most women i know want a man with about the same amount of partners. A lot of women value men based on how many women theyve been with, not just other men doing that in some bro competition. See: how more women are interested in you if you are seen with a woman in public, male virgins being viewed as 'a wee boy' by lots of women, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/25 06:17 PM

It's not wrong, but I think most women do not respect men who have significantly lower counts than them
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/25 06:10 PM
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There arent enough conservative women for conservative men. Also lots of conservative women actually prefer slightly left men because conservative men are fucking insecure when they dont have 100% control over everything.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/25 04:41 AM
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Actually women over time tend to agree with me. They were too obsessed with story book and not obsessed with growing with a person. I know multiple women who say they never would have given their boyfriend a shot if they first saw him on tinder.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/25 07:53 PM
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People can forget that, as evidenced by there are times (and usually the healthiest relationships) where the woman said "over time i started to like him more and more". Needing the perfect meetcute event is the same thing as wanting this epic wedding. Its not a healthy way to meet a partner. Also: my main point is women arent the same as men, which is a massive disagreement with most of modern feminism.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/25 07:35 PM
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i mean under that logic basically if shes not 100% satisfied at all hours of the day every day shes "settling". At some point you have to say forget the perfect "meet cute" type bullshit.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/25 07:26 PM
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Either that or for women to understand that the reason why CEOs, hollywood directors, board room members, EDM Dance DJs, Dungeon Masters in DnD, pro athletes, etc etc are overwhemingly men and not these perfect 50/50 ratios is because women arent really interested in most men. Even being successful is far from a guarantee that you will be sexualizied as much as u want as a guy. I do also think women need to give more men a chance. I've talked to so many women who have said things like "if i saw …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/25 05:04 PM
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So its true that women arent the same as men, however blank slate feminism is a massive wing of the feminist movement ("thats just a social construct" type rebuttals to a lot of things that aren't just social constructs). This is why more and more men are turning right wing. The left needs to own up to the fact that "empowering women" means empowering them so they dont have to pair up with men, because women aren't interested.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/25 02:25 PM
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nobody is really for ending gender roles, it has to be fuckable.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/25 03:22 AM
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to me, giving me a chance is an hour long meet up where we do something while have honest intentions of trying to create a romantic partnership. If you are honest about having the intentions of building something romantic and just aren't feeling it after the hour, bol hope you find somebody.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/25 07:38 PM
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Eh, even on PPD
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/25 01:39 PM
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What ive also noticed is the most "fiercely independent i dont need a man/woman" type people tend to be the most needy people in friendships or whenever they start dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/25 01:21 PM
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Eh, no offense but I dont think women are "so quick to remind you that theyre pure angels....". There are plenty of women who will definitely call themselves bitches and what not.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/25 01:20 PM
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Everybody has an individualism about them, and everybody has moments where they care about their ingroup. The internet also amplifies the complain/vent aspects of all this.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/25 03:19 PM
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Really? I don't think they are but maybe a very very small handful of Mormons, and the number is so small it'll take like 200 years
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/25 07:49 PM
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Are even they are replacement level tho?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/25 07:37 PM
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I agree with how social media (not just dating apps) are turning people into sociopaths, but there is a projected population implosion
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/25 07:05 PM
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Careers are more important to a mans overall ability to live than a woman's ability to live. Maga is a fucking cult and fucking dumb as shit, but if the left could just abandon the "that's just a social construct" bullshit I believe maga never would have become relevant.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/25 06:11 AM

Sex is seen as devaluing to women because they aren't attracted to most men.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/25 02:51 PM
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In the social media age, I have to agree. Women have so many options and just seem bored of men
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/25 06:21 PM

and the same goes for anything you say.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/25 05:27 PM

Thats not a healthy worldview.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/25 05:12 PM

That's completely ignoring any agency by women
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/25 04:50 PM

As much as women hate being viewed as "an object to be won", sadly a lot of their actions kind of reinforce this. They want perfect "meet cute" events They (and other men do this to men tbh) will say "you need to work on yourself first" and "have you tried xyz" and "you aren't ready yet because you need to love yourself first" gate keeping Women tend to expect the man to lead most of the time, especially early in the relationship. After time women seem to be more willing to lead at times though …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/25 03:24 PM
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Its not all bad, but often times people need to understand what worked for them won't work for everyone. Lots of narcissism with that thought process.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/25 03:20 PM
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About 10 years ago i remember lots of backlash to trans people saying to cis and straight people "if you arent willing to date a trans person because they are trans you don't view them as the gender they claim to be". They accused the trans people saying this as the next step of the slippery slope. The thing is, the trans people are correct with their assessment. Its also a big reason why there will never be full trans acceptance. Because quite frankly, both the reproductive organs and the brain…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/25 03:18 PM
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No one individual might owe you something, and you owe that individual, but society as a whole does owe each other things to keep it stable and livable. We do have to do things for each other to some degree. Romantically and/or sexually? Ya probably not that, but you should be sympathetic to most people who can't find anyone.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/25 03:05 PM
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Men definitely spend way too much time focusing on each metric which will probably cause most women to be turned off as it becomes absurd.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/25 03:28 PM
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I think more and more people are not just talking about women's clock anymore. Men's clock is longer it seems, but also if you abuse drugs/alcohol/no physical activity cobined with aging, the male clock exists plenty.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/25 03:26 PM
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meh, i think there are lot of maga males that just want words too.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/25 09:12 PM
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Eh maybe. TikTok to my observations just captured younger males (middle zoomers and younger) and what not. Also is TikTok more popular than instagram or youtube? I'd think not but i might be wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/25 08:07 PM
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social media has been a time sink for both genders since the late 00s. Not just tiktok era.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/25 06:26 PM
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definitely a mixed sentiment. On one hand, its their life. On the other hand, there is a lot of psychological problems with going down that path it seems. And i doubt i could date a woman who does only fans/porn/etc. Perhaps its me being controlling, but I think certain things should be between the people in the relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/25 03:51 PM
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The internet in general is a massive problem for people's social lives. Sure, some people might say "the internet just showed what was always going on", but these types of discussions were nowhere near to this prevalence before the internet.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/25 04:04 PM
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25 dating 21 is a "gap" lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/25 10:20 AM
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Interesting insight, thanks. Makes me feel less obsolete lol, even if this is just a rando on the net.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/25 10:13 PM
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See maybe thats my male brain talking, but i view bi women as probably more attracted to women. Hell when i talk to any woman (straight, lesbian, bi, etc), they all comment on female beauty more.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/25 08:29 PM
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And your source that women want it more is where?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/25 06:13 PM
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Amongst the later half of millennials and older zoomers, yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/25 04:39 PM
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because men are the ones who still want it, women dont really tbh. Especially ones under 40 or so.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/25 04:04 PM
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Men aren't the gatekeepers for marriage anymore, maybe 20+ years ago.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/25 03:36 PM
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I think there are a lot of monosexual people who are afraid of bisexual people because of their own self confidence/worth. I'll admit im somewhat that way. I'm tired of how it seems every woman i meet these days is bi. Partially because I think shes gonna just view me as a temporary fix until a woman walks into her life, because women are just hotter. But since women are way flakier in dating, I think a lot of bi women are more lesbian than bi. Just us dudes are more interested in women we are e…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/25 02:24 PM
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What we are seeing is the relationships not form in the first place. And 80k dating 70k proves my point, thats not a big difference. Maybe you are onto something with 80k dating 50k, that is way more noticeable. But also way less common than 80k dating 70k.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/25 06:15 PM
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Like you said, let's look at a more reasonable salary than 800k. Women aren't rejecting men who make 5k less than them. But that's barely an income gap. The variance matters. Men making 125k (a damn good salary, but semi obtainable in today's age) are marrying women who make 55k. The reverse of that is not happening much. Yes you will see women who make 125k marry a man making 112k or something, but again that's just not very significant.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/25 12:09 PM
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you are talking about a very very small % of the population. Yes, some women will do what you said. Most will not.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/25 07:21 PM
1

Social media was the beginning of the exponential line. Before that it was linear, and reasonable.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/25 04:21 PM
1

Again, all those are nothing compared to social media engagement and time spent
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/25 04:00 PM
1

In the 80s/90s they absolutely were allowed to be politically active... People are bringing up examples in the past right now. The point is those types of political activism are nothing compared to youtube. Also everyone has always cared about the laws governing them, but social media has made it on people's brains more every day than 30 years ago.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/25 03:15 PM
1

data backs me up bud
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/25 03:08 PM
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The data backs me up. Social media has made people more political. Thats my point.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/25 03:07 PM
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You brought up how people were political in the past. Im not disagreeing. I'm saying social media has made people more political than ever before, which nobody denies.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/25 02:51 PM
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No, they were less political. They didn't have the need to express their politics anywhere close to the degree that is happening now. Sure something like Riot Grrl has popular, but the people who went to those concerts would rock out, maybe talk about issues the next few days, continue to be political in that sense. But not wake up and tweet about it 10 times a day, getting constant notifications on their phones about likes/retweets/etc. The chronic reminder alone these platforms do shape the mi…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/25 02:32 PM
1

I oppose MAGA as well, but the issue is young people I think do spend too much time on politics. Its everywhere on the internet now, and people (old people too tbh) are too busy watching the same clips (but from different "influencers"!) over and over. I think the best way to actually oppose MAGA is to go outside, stop watching youtube/instagram/netflix/twitch/twitter feeds, and meet people locally with intentions of sharing hobbies/starting friendships/starting romance.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/25 02:19 PM
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Yes, i know third wave feminism started in the 90s. Second wave post ww2ish, etc. Young people are more political now than 50 years ago. Young people saw a future back then regardless of politics, now young people do not, and many cope with politics. Politics back in the 90s was a bunch of old fucks watching the Mclaughlin Group. Young people were outside doing way more socializing with less politics.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/25 02:15 PM
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Its a major factor for the massive political increase in young people.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/25 02:01 PM
1

It is. People are on these platforms WAY too much, and see so many things that never would have crossed their minds 20 years ago. Again, people were outside doing stuff and socializing WAY more, and that will make people feel more included (because they are), which is a huge issue here.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/25 01:56 PM
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I already responded to this comment. My rights are invested in voting too. And again, in the 80s/90s/early 00s women were not nearly as political as they are now. They were outside doing stuff, like how younger men were too back then. Social media is the main factor for women's massive increase in politics. Social media is also radicalizing young men too, but its morso because young men in general are powerless, as power accumulates over time and some 19 year old is barely out of high school/nob…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/25 01:41 PM
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Somewhat true, but back in the 80s/90s/early00s younger women were not as political as they are now. Social media seemed to ramp up women's political interest. Also rights of men are built on political decisions too.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/25 01:36 PM
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In this day and age, politics seem to be very important to women. Men I think are somewhat afraid to speak their mind (starting with the later half of the millennials or so who are now in their 30s pretty much), and it became a bit of a festering boil that led to more extreme politics. I think a lot of younger men are afraid to speak their mind about politics in the flesh (on the internet it doesnt seem to be an issue) if a woman is present because they are afraid of offending the woman. And a l…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/25 01:28 PM
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The girls are a tad ahead, but by 18/19 I think the actual maturity evens out, and its morso an adult woman can fall into a gender role way faster than a man (partially because women literally want to date men a little bit older than them)
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/25 07:55 PM

That is an excuse to just toy with you. There is a read the room moment at times, but that was WAY beyond that.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/25 07:53 PM
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A couple where she makes 75k to 110k (still obtainable salaries) and he makes like....52k would be a combined 120 to 160k salary. You can still raise a few kids off of that. The main issue is the relationships arent forming in the first place. She isnt interested. She'd rather remain single because single women (at least up until your 40s or so) are viewed as an asset to society and capitalism, while single men are viewed as a liability in many ways. Eventually women have to sexualize men who ar…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/25 07:49 PM
2

Oh your article says they are taking the paternity more. Well what you do with the money i cant control. But its available.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/25 07:46 PM
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My point isnt about paternity leave. Its about leaving the job in general. Men stay in the workforce more often because men are the higher earners. So if one person takes time off, its usually going to be the lower earner.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/25 03:50 PM
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Ya i agree on the biology factor here, not sure what we can do about that.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/25 01:46 PM
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Its going up much slower than women's ascent into higher positions. Women have plenty of the good jobs now, but the relationships dont seem to be really forming in the first place.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/25 01:21 PM
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Fathers would put their careers on hold if women were attracted to men who are making less. Usually they arent.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/25 12:41 PM
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Men need to stop chasing women agreed, but that still wont change that much. Women arent attracted to most of these men anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/25 12:38 PM

That study says gen z started in 1992 and ends in 2007, i dont know anyone that says that.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/25 05:38 PM
0

Feminism and red pill are the same thing. The only difference is basically the gender and/or temperament of people who practice it
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/25 04:18 PM
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Maybe like a check in system could work. You meet up, press start, and have to check in when the timer ends. Still doesn't completely fix what you are saying though, moreso me just spitballin a bit.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/25 07:27 PM
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It would have to be on a report basis, but then people could just report bad dates. Idk how to completely enforce it tbh, but the main point I think is that people need to just implement a hard stop for the first date or few and stop reading articles/youtube vids about "if they end the date at time xyz they arent into you" type stuff.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/25 06:44 PM
1

The app should be you meet up for exactly 30 minutes and set a hard stop. Meet in a public place, and then after 30 minutes you say goodbye. I do think a large chunk of first date culture in this day and age is "how do i end the first date? I want him/her to know im interested, but i also have other things to do today. But then they won't think I'm interested" type stuff.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/25 06:12 PM
1

The same can be said about women with male relationships
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/25 09:04 PM
1

It's an oversimplification. You could say the same to women about their male partners and relationships
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/25 08:19 PM
2

I think that's an oversimplified response tbh
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/25 07:51 PM
2

This isnt entirely on men, but both people need to change. I have tried to connect with women on a way that I would deem normal and also as an attempt to maybe date them/build a personal connection, but when I have done this they viewed it as "kinda gay". Grant it this was when I was in my late teens, so I hope maybe women would mature a bit, but it was kinda sad, and definitely stunted my dating life. This notion that toxic masculinity is only kept alive by other men is just not my life experie…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/25 06:11 PM
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Women who are lonely still seem to be integrated into society more. They go outside and can still be approached by other women socially, and men too. They might be annoyed at men approaching them though.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/25 03:58 PM
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Depends on the millennials. The later half of the millennials (90s born ones more or less) have no adult life pre current era social media, which started around 2007
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/25 06:28 AM
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Off to try hinge I guess lol
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/25 10:31 PM
0

Do u know which are 60/40? Not because I don't believe u but because I want to try one for myself lol
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/25 09:59 PM
1

True, men want more casual sex. Is it possible that all dating apps are used for casual sex? Maybe, although I though some were more for longer term dating than others, and those also have really bad ratios on them too.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/25 08:21 PM
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This has been known for years now. Not to mention, as a whole there is just a lot more single men in their late teens/20s/30s than women. Multiple factors cause this, such as: There is enough 40/50 something dudes dating a late 20s/30s something woman to dent it Women in their 20s/30s are way more likely to be lgbt than men. Its mostly the bisexual count as there is slightly more gay males than lesbian women, but bisexual women outnumber bi men like 5:1 Women sharing a "top tier" man with multip…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/25 07:49 PM
1

Depends on what they did that was horrible.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/25 04:18 PM
1

social media is the problem then
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/25 01:42 AM
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It was not always this way. Everyone had more reasonable expectations. Social media and algorithm fomo caused this to go to the level the human brain can no longer keep up
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/25 10:02 PM
1

Perfect was defined differently pre social media
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/25 08:58 PM
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The modern era internet (2007 or so to the present) in general is the problem. Internet addiction is the number 1 cause of the first world's problems. Including this subreddit and reddit itself.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/25 05:20 PM
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Ya, agreed here. Especially the part of the "im conservative, but im promiscuous" part. You mean you want everyone else to live by a more conservative value but you dont. Just a narcissist for sure.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/25 03:38 PM

When you say option 1, are you saying they are the ultra bitter incel, or just inexperienced? If its the former, i can see why she wouldnt try dating the guy, but some dude +/- a year or two from her isnt that old and while maybe not ideal, still is worth trying if they are friendly. More and more people (especially men) are getting little experience in the dating game. People have to give others a chance more.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/25 01:45 PM
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This is almost entirely, if not entirely, on the dude. This doesnt happen that often, but ya the guy is stupid here. If he said no and didnt offer ANY hint of a future (even something like, im really busy on this work project, in a few weeks can we resume? type vague stuff is better than just "no". Obviously a specific date and time is very legitimate), then ya wtf is he thinking she is going to do?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/25 06:44 PM
1

We know. This isnt new.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/25 05:10 PM
1

I don't know everyone who lives in my apartment complex, no. I know quite a few though. But i mean before the industrial revolution you didnt live near may people at all, so I'd rather know a small % of people in my general area, but that raw number of people is much bigger than the agriculture age where nobody is around other than your immediate family.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/25 07:26 PM
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Meh, a lot of this is reading the room and environment. For example if I'm walking down the hallway at my apartment complex and see another person, a quick nod an hi as you walk past is how you'd start. Maybe if you see them again you say something a tad longer, etc. Little interactions like this do matter somewhat too, as for one they are still acknowledging somebody and being acknowledged (which most people seem to want), and are still integrating you into the world. A very small degree, but s…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/25 03:32 PM
1

2007/2008 was when this all started. Including modern era social media.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/25 02:19 AM
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Not only might they not be a vocal minority, they might be purposely lying to just pot stir and be a piece of shit too. And then people let that affect their day irl
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/25 12:33 AM
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ya this is very true. When you go outside and look at reality/talk to actual couples you see a much different picture of the world.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 08:36 PM
3

thats probably true ya.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 08:24 PM
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due to algorithm and 'desire to be an influencer' culture, the internet has gotten to the point where the human brain can not keep up and thus no longer a mirror to our society.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 07:47 PM
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Id argue the internet is creating more angsty single (and unstable men) more than society at large. The internet is part of society, but its the bigger issue, including this subreddit.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 07:06 PM

No one individual owes me a sexual relationship, thats not something id argue for.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 03:42 PM
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Because internet addiction is so fucking bad its probably manosphere. But then again internet addiction hits men and women to large degrees which causes a lot of people to think "there is better out there" type analysis paralysis. This causes the dating experience to be shit as people dont invest in their partner creating throw away relationships and general unpleasant people. I do think the internet in our pockets is responsible for almost all of the first and second world problems atm. Or at l…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 03:39 PM

We have a legal system which is basically saying "we owe each other stuff". Not to kill, even if one could do so and then say "survival of the fittest, nobody owed you anything" is perhaps the most obvious example. We also owe each other that said legal system is implemented fairly, not "one race gets more leniency" which happens all the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 02:18 PM

That phrase is brought up way more than just sexual relations between men and women.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 02:02 PM

Maybe so, but when people say nobody is owned anything from anyone else, thats not really a gendered statement.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 01:57 PM

Its not
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 01:54 PM

It seems like through legal means in as a much of a non secular way as possible.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 01:52 PM

That phrase is a bit oversaid, I do think we owe each other things in society. Maybe no one individual owes an individual anything, but we do owe each other certain virtues for the sake of a stable society.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 01:33 PM
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C16 broke Peterson's brain. I remember him on The Agenda with Paikin and had some good comments via round table discussions back in like 2012/2013. Then it went to C16 a few years later, then he became way too popular on social media, then he got too much daily wire money, then went to russia for drugs, his daughter also went terminally online. His brain is mush at this point, the internet is too strong for these people.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/25 03:11 PM
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I think the misogyny is displayed differently between sexually inexperienced and overly experienced men, but the inexperienced men display more immediate and obvious misogyny.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/25 02:16 PM
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True, but women tend to deem fewer men attracted than the other way around. We just aren't really on their radar.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/25 06:18 PM
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The wall is mostly bullshit. women might hit a wall a tad earlier than men, but it's far from 25 to 30. Maybe 45
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/25 10:39 PM
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Nobody is saying a baby doesnt need their parents, nice straw man
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/25 06:49 PM
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It's clear youve never been around a newborn. They learn hand usage motor skills very early....and it's not from their parents.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/25 06:29 PM
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Lol your parents teach you that you need food. That is the dumbest shit I've ever heard. Babies frequently put shit in their mouth all the time
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/25 05:19 PM
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Social media has to go. People are constantly in a state of fomo or "even better is out there" mode, and their lives stagnant funnily enough
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/25 03:37 AM
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I've asked out women with better jobs/career than me, I've been rejected everytime. Ive never been some dude who has 10 women blowing up his phone, but women who makes less money than me have shown some interest, which is more than 0 from women who make more. Women who make more money dont really share their wealth with men younger/make less/less educated/etc. Even if the man does all the cooking and cleaning, the relationship doesnt form in the first place.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/25 06:32 PM
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And i have seen men who have died for their women, and men who would protect their women from anyone and anything. Men who never get laid are resentful yes, because its something we want. Like I said, women dont really want men that much, and men want women more. And yes, most women I know view even dating men as "submitting". Guess what. The man submits too. Men who dont tend to be very insecure and sure ill agree, not worth your time.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/25 08:52 PM
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so you are a lesbian? and my point is, men DO put the effort in to build friendships and romance. But like you said, lots of women think just even having sex with a man is ruining their dignity.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/25 08:15 PM
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They do approach the men they are interested in.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/25 01:31 PM
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They arent interested in the other men. Thats the point. She doesnt want you, or me, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/25 12:51 PM
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you go outside and dick is more abundant than air to you. I put in plenty of effort. My sister puts in less effort and she hasnt been without a boyfriend since she was 16. Shes now 33
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/25 12:50 PM
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They approach for the small % of men they are attracted to plenty.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/25 04:58 PM
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Again, even on personality, you still dont deem as many men attractive as i do women. Its not just "u lust" like you say.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/25 03:44 PM
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again, its not just 'shallow' visuals. I can meet a girl, talk to her for a while, and find her attractive. Women still won't deem as many men attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/25 03:41 PM
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I mean a first date is all im asking for, you immediately say no to that almost always. Its not leading with lust. Its sticking the foot in the door and trying to start something. Usually afterwards you then make the judgement about if its compatible, not before the date even happens. And besides, when women get rejected by that 10% they do find attractive, watch how quickly they become the lustful or vengeful person. Hell hath no fury remember?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/25 03:27 PM
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they do. They just dont find many men attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/25 03:08 PM
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It can be a different 10%, but it wont always be. Also Each woman's 10% is still much smaller than the fact that I deem probably 40 to 50% of girls within a decade of my age +/- as attractive. Men deem more women attractive than the other way around, that what creates gender roles and the patriarchy.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/25 03:08 PM
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they do, just very very rarely
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/25 03:06 PM
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Women do approach. Its about 10% of men they deem worthy of approaching. Im not one, you probably arent either. Sorry. The issue is women just dont deem enough men attractive to end gender roles.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/25 01:47 PM
1

And society is collapsing because of this. It's why trump won who is horrible for this country
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/25 03:27 PM
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I mean i agree you cant change that, but soft patriarchies will be the conclusion of this.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/25 02:02 PM
2

the women who are neet are 40+, and married with social lives. The men who are neet are 18 to death. And have no social life. Most universities are struggling to stay 60% female/40% male.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/25 03:43 PM
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honestly, amongst the 20 somethings, men are leaving the workplace and college in droves. A lot have given up, but they also have never had a girlfriend and they are 22, 24, etc. They are very self loathing, but you as a woman probably dont understand how socially ostracized you are if you even look like a virgin at 24 years old. With women you might be treated like royalty.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/25 03:30 PM
7

College
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/25 03:24 PM
2

We do know. Dating apps are mostly biological reactions to profile pictures, and women dont deem very many men attractive on those sites
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/25 03:23 PM
2

Its pretty clear imo. Its mostly biology. It seems to start the initial spark, which is step 1.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/25 03:11 PM
2

30% of girls under 30 identify as LGBT. The number is nowhere near to the level of that for men under 30. Some say there are a lot of closeted bisexual men, but they are afraid to come out because women find bisexual men disgusting. So they still value female sexuality more than male. We all just like female sexuality more than male. Women will embrace their queerness, they already have in droves.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/25 02:55 PM
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both men and women need to change. Men need to stop this alpha "i control my woman" bullshit, but women need to deem a lot more men dateable. Hell a large chunk of feminism promised this "Once women have the good jobs theyll marry the men with the bad ones" "Dont you want us to take on more of the burden so you dont have to?" "Men and women are the exact same all differences are social constructs" "Saying men cant be nurture is actually a product of patriarchy" No, all these things are a product…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/25 02:49 PM
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For the most part, yes. Women have way more robust outside social lives, because they are more in demand in these spaces. Also when it comes to online stuff, women get way more interactions on the platforms. Almost every woman on instagram can be a 2-3k follower count profile with DMs if they play the game right. Male thirst is WAY larger than female thirst. I'd argue women get addicted to social media brain rot too, but at least their brain rot is more fun.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/25 02:44 PM
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Its mostly a product of women just dont find many men attractive. Because women can have their bodies altered during a romantic and sexual relationship, they deem fewer men attractive. There is a man out there for every woman, there is not a woman out there for every man.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/25 02:40 PM
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Single women get treated as an asset. Single men are treated as a liability. A woman can handle being single because she usually will still be seen, heard, given some level of romantic attention, etc. When a man is single, his life turns into a ghost town. He is invisible
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/25 07:01 AM
2

Its been proven.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/25 06:55 PM
2

Its moreso biology. Women just dont have the same sex drives as men, and most men they arent attracted to. Men deem a lot more women attractive
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/25 06:36 PM
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Because it's a gender role imposed onto men. Relationships enforce gender roles more than anything. People don't want to be alone.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/25 04:09 PM
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Women have to deem men younger than them, shorter than them, make less money than them, less educated than them, etc attractive. They dont
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/25 04:00 PM
2

I workout, eat healthy, and have a decent job. I've done enough that I should have some options. I don't. I get rejected 100% of the time. I'm 34 and have never had even a date
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/25 03:59 PM
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People want relationships. When we say "we need to end gender roles", there is an additional part that is implied that you will have a reasonable adult life experience. Having a few romantic partners is part of having a reasonable adult experience
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/25 03:57 PM
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Men deem a lot more women attractive than. The other way around. Women want to be left alone by most men
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/25 07:16 AM
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Women don't deem enough men dateable/marryable and/or fuckable to end the patriarchy. Men's careers are more important to their lives than women's careers are to their lives. Women do not have the sex drive to end gender roles
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/25 05:40 AM
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casual sex or dating, it doesnt matter. All women have more options for both compared to men of similar social/genetic situations
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/25 02:44 PM
2

1) self improvement has always been preached for men to do 2) self improvement for leads to patriarchy, something feminists hate. men just like more women than women like men. Most if not all of this is due to women getting pregnant by men's sperm, so they are pickier. That is all.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/25 02:40 PM

This sub is nearly 100% brainrot. The brainrot era started in 2007.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/25 05:47 PM

nah, the last time things were normal was 2006. Social media is the cause of all this, and 2007 was when most of this shit began.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/25 05:47 PM
1

both hetero and homo society is doomed. We have no more major frontiers to keep it all propped up.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/25 08:28 PM
1

It's a big assumption that they are the same rate. That is the 50/50 fallacy people believe. There is no evidence that men are just as big as women. And men who are bi say they don't talk about their biness to women because the woman almost always says ick after she finds out. So even the bi men prefer female sexuality otherwise they wouldn't care.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/25 02:03 AM
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nobody likes to be viewed as the problem. When men complain about the dating game, women view it as them being the problem. Which is kinda an accurate interpretation. Maybe not individually, but women as a whole. Men have legitimate complaints about women's actions, as women do men. But due to sex drives, women can say how much they hate men and still be liked by men. Women will just say fuck that to a man even making one complaint about women. Ya, i would date and/or hook up with almost all the…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/25 04:19 PM
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it is a curse. I know plenty of men who are living fulfilling lives outside of dating. They are making upper 5/low 6 figs, have a house (but not a home), go on trips, are in reasonable shape. The only thing on their mind is why they cant find a woman. Btw having a "fulfilling" live still contributes to uneven gender ratios, which means feminism has to live with the fact that men can't rely on women not just emotionally and sexually, but also economically. Which means women will never have 50% of…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/25 03:02 PM
1

it was popular on this subreddit...both poop memes and female abusers
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/25 07:12 PM
6

Lots of women in gen z (hell this started with millennials tbh especially the 90s born millennials) are identifying as bi/pan etc. The gay male population has been 3 to 3.2% for decades. The bi male numbers exist, but compared to women its minuscule.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/25 02:49 PM
3

Well ya, but neither is shitting the bed memes, which nobody credible was giving two fucks about either.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/25 02:39 PM
4

i saw plenty of comments in this very subreddit about female abusers, i dont have them bookmarked im sorry. In terms of articles from credible or even semi credible places, I didn't see much discussion about female abusers, but to be fair those sites weren't making poop in the bed joke articles either. Also im not sure about the random pivot to trans issues, but i do think a large chunk of trans issues are in the spotlight because a lot of men are afraid they want to fuck some of them. I've date…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/25 02:10 PM
8

To be fair, i did see a lot of pushback towards women abusers during the Depp Heard stuff. Not just shit in the bed memes. Maybe you spend too much time on more memed websites? But yes, everyone seems to value women more than men. Men do it because there are a lot of men who believe that every woman should be fucking them at all times, and horde women. Hell it is funny how a lot of younger males (millennial, zoomer) hate boomers but think Trump and RFK are fine. Millennials born in 1990 are clos…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/25 01:47 PM
7

funnily enough, ppd is an aging subreddit and is honestly stuck in that late 00s to 2016 period.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/25 01:45 PM

Trump only cares about Trump. Men dont care about other men much, we are all trying to find a girl and they seem less interested in ever, so we are kind of on our own. I am an incel and have massive criticisms of feminism, but still you better believe I voted Hillary and Kamala. Republican economic policy doesnt benefit anyone making under like 500k a year, which aint us.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/25 03:52 PM
6

Patriarchy exists because women aren't attracted to many men. Patriarchy is the effect, not the cause
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/25 04:44 PM
10

ya, somebody who is 33 had to experience highschool when facebook was seeing exponential growth in 2007/2008. Really a lot of these issues started around 07/08
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/25 02:04 PM
1

The whole "we need to care about friendships" thing is true, but it's usually said to squelch the discussion about romantic relationships
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/25 07:17 AM
2

there are plenty of women who have zero interest in meeting up with people from dating apps too, they just like watching the notifications pop up on their phone saying they have matches. Its like a form of net worth. Very few things on the internet is 100% used by everybody for the intended purpose. Tinder is used to validate via messages (hell its also used to promote only fans, those girls who use it for that dont want to meet up either) But no you are wrong, Instagram is a dating app
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/25 02:27 PM
3

All social media is a dating app to a degree. Even instagram, twitter, discord, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/25 02:08 PM
2

in the social media age its more like top 5% of men > all women > bottom 95% of men
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/25 03:15 PM

women dont have to worry about finding another shot. They have to worry more about safety and if the next person is at least as interesting as the person they break up with. Maybe for like women over 55 or so, but if you are a woman from 18 to 50/55 its literally download and app and put yourself out there. Being a single man is a much much more lonely and dehumanizing experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/25 01:53 PM
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the problem is a lot of men's problems are due to the fact that women don't really deem very many men attractive. If men focus on other things, they are deemed patriarchal bastards if they become successful. And these men are still lonely If they stop caring about anything and live at home with their parents well into their 30s/40s, they are losers. Eventually people need to own up to the fact that we DO owe each other things, the question is how much and to what extent.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/25 04:46 PM
1

The "need to find yourself first" "need to love yourself first" etc is just gatekeeping relationships. I know people who have plenty to improve in themselves and they are in very reasonable relationships. Maybe they have the occasional argument, but what relationships dont. Its just gatekeeping and primarily told to men as a way to not have them notice that women dont really like men that much.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/25 04:43 PM
1

ya, we all just like women more than men.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/25 07:04 PM
1

and women have careers. They also have the luxury of quitting a career and taking time off and the opposite sex still is attracted to them.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/25 06:49 PM
2

i do not believe its done entirely for male attention. I think its done because of women. Everybody wants other women's attention now. Go look at who women follow on instagram for example. Its mostly other women. Go look at who men follow on instagram, its also mostly women.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/25 06:47 PM
6

its analt as in an alt. Alt account. Thanks.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/25 04:25 AM
37

Women are outearning men now amongst millennials and younger.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/25 04:20 AM
90

Women can hate men all they want and get dates from men. Women dont realize how much more social integration they get based just on their gender. Nobody really fears you. Ya you might struggle to reach the tops of socio economic totem poles, but in terms of having a more normal adult life experience, women have easier time accessing that. I know women who claim to be hetero and are more sexual with their female friends than any man in their life. We all just like women more than men tbh.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/25 01:27 AM
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before social media sure (2007ish). But before the 60s? Meh not as interested.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/24 09:30 PM

No, shes right. This shit has been around since gamergate/zoe quinn. Anita Sarkeesian was the prequel. Even if these guys have different beliefs, all of them. All of them owe all their money/success/fame/etc to incels/incel adjacent men, zoe quinn, and anita sarkeesian. The amount of people Ive met who say they watch ben shapiro because of "wrecked feminist compilation binge watching" is very high. Ive asked them if they watched those videos because they wish they had a girlfriend, and they all …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/24 03:15 PM
2

Men would sell their body too if there was a market for ot
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/24 07:01 PM
1

Agreed
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/24 04:20 PM
1

I like how u specifically mention 2006 because I refer to 2007 as the year this all started
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/24 02:28 PM
1

on the internet, ya it is
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/24 04:21 PM
1

That's the internet, on a heavily botted site like reddit. Look at schools, workplaces, etc
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/24 03:33 PM
7

That hasn't been the norm for like 20 years
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/24 07:57 PM
1

I'm not a woman
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/24 07:46 PM
1

ya thats my point
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/24 02:58 PM
-2

All of politics these days is sexual repression Most anti trans people are jerking off to them hardcore Most conservative men who are more normal about trans people are jerking off to AOC Most liberal men are jerking off to insert pick me right wing YouTube girl Articles have been written about how plenty of liberal women couldn't stop fucking trump supporters. 99% of the industrialized nations's problems would go away if people just had more sex, and as many people as possible had more consiste…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/24 04:40 AM
0

I guess I need to do a Houston scouting mission
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/24 08:35 PM
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Perhaps. I do remember women being more interested in dating though in the late 90s vs today. I dont think it was necessarily because they had to back then, it wasnt THAT long ago. I think it was more a social event, while today women get a lot more overall attention online.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/24 01:32 PM
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Not to mention it has to lead to results. Women don't really seem interested in men anymore
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/24 01:27 PM
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to be fair, plenty of conservatives talk about sexual socialism in a way (hell that is monogamy), but then when it comes to the economy become laissez faire
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/24 04:11 PM
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The problem is the solution to everything men deals with involves women changing, which is a big feminist no no. 1) Lots of people on the left, especially progressives, say we need to end gender roles. Ending gender roles for men effectively means you can lose your job and still be in a domestic relationship. That kinda involves women changing what they want in a man 2) Telling men to focus on themselves or to "be alone and find yourself!" crap is basically saying to men "do better in capitalism…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/24 07:49 PM

disagree. Women's sexuality has always been more bisexual
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/24 12:02 AM

Women have careers now, younger women are out earning younger men for that matter. Women seem to enjoy female sexuality more now
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/24 07:46 PM

not saying it isnt. Also women wanting to date women in droves more shrinks the available pool
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/24 05:38 PM

Women will start dating other women. Women are already declaring themselves bisexual/pansexual/heteroflexible in DROVES amongst the later half of millennials and zoomers.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/24 04:22 PM

were feminists even that loud this election cycle? Kamala barely said anything about identity politics, first woman, black, asian, etc. She handled that perfectly and people let her down. Latino men did white white men did in 2016. I've noticed that latino communities have been acting increasingly white with the men and women yelling at each other, when back in the early 10s their social communities seemed much more healthy. Asian communities in the USA are the only ones i see now with healthy d…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/24 07:23 PM
2

Men dont want those freedoms because it seems like women don't really have much interest in men in the first place. Kinda hard to "explore" your sexuality when for most men that still means dating/sex with women. Women just seem to be more bi/lesbian/etc than men. Therefore most men these "Freedoms" are more "your life sucks"
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/24 01:41 PM
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I question if women really ever wanted men in the first place.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/24 04:02 PM
1

Still a trend that is alarming
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/24 06:53 PM
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This might be the biggest difference between men and women. Women kinda have more access to the opposite sex romantically and sexually, so its not gonna be valued as much as friendships. Hell I know a lot of women who can't keep female friends due to women seeming to always need new experiences and what not.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/24 02:42 PM
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Women (especially millennial and gen z...aka the people more likely to be dating) are increasingly LGBT as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/24 02:31 PM
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That's probably true that gen xers and older grew out of (and maybe even the oldest millennials). But they also had more opportunities to move on from it. Now in this internet/social media age, you have constant reminders of everything
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/24 12:50 PM

to be fair, a lot of feminist women do the same thing with the economy.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/24 03:21 PM
1

most men amongst the younger half of millennials and all zoomer go to the gym now.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/24 05:27 PM
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sad way to look at the world, but if thats how you observe do yo thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/24 06:50 PM
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Sex is a part of healthy relationships keep in mind
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/24 06:38 PM
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Shouldn't assume it's purely sexual too then
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/24 06:34 PM
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its not just about sex. I deem them more attractive and want to actually you know....date? Eventually marry? Etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/24 05:19 PM
-1

Its a big starting point. Stop acting like its purely sexual and thats it. I deem a lot more women attractive, and want to more than just fuck her....
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/24 05:18 PM
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men deem more women attractive than the other way around. That is the main issue. The foundation of relationships
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/24 03:17 PM
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I have read. You are being emotional.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/24 02:36 PM
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youre being emotional buddy, might want to be more stoic. Says everyone when these topics about how women are more emotional than men come up.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/24 12:15 PM
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Who are you to decide too! Nobody views somebody laughing as being emotional, unless its laughing at something that is generally not funny (at an open casket funeral or something for example) Being emotional is when you lose control of your actions due to emotions, and men do that just as much as women. Extreme emotions (being unstable with them) is what everyone means when they say "you are being emotional". Not laughing a joke or nodding like you quoted. Cmon.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/24 03:19 AM
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Lol nah. Men's anger is definitely enough. Also who TF cares about smiles and laughs? What matters when we say "more emotional" is extremist expression of emotion, not some dumb laugh once in a while.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/24 11:26 PM
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women's sexuality kinda prevents this from happening. Women in general just dont deem enough men attractive to fix this problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/24 05:20 PM
-1

Sorry but it's true
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/24 04:30 PM
-2

no, i dont think they exist. Every woman is bi/pan/power/etc. 100% straight and 100% lesbian do not exist. Maybe 95% straight 95% lesbian, but not 100% no.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/24 03:40 PM
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I never really prescribed to either, but i also prescribe to both I generally lean RP probably, but hate the social media component to it. Things I agree with BP/Feminism on: Abortion rights are important Women are capable of leading/leading me in the workplace/etc "Women are the more emotional gender" is bullshit. Men are way more emotionally unstable in many ways, but for some reason they "dont count" because crying is the only emotion apparently. Kamala is WAY better of a candidate than Trump…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/24 01:27 PM
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There are more young men than women. Women are only 51% of the population due to senior citizens. There is a man out there for every woman. There is NOT a woman out there for every man.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/24 01:15 PM
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The feminist ethical system in general is about "the group". There is nothing wrong with this, but sometimes the group needs to be broken down into sub groups or individuals.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/24 05:19 PM
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35, this is mostly when I was about 22 through 27
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/24 03:18 AM
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When I ask out a girl whose older than me and get the "Awe sweetie" type response, I usually think its more of a "awe your younger than me, appreciate the effort!". Meaning I have 0 change because of my age.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/24 01:02 AM
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Younger women are hotter, also many men dont have as many romantic/sexual experiences as women at 18 so i think we like to make up for lost time. Finally, I've asked out plenty of women older/make more money than me/etc. Ive been rejected everytime in an "awe sweetie" type way. I dont slay with women younger than me, but at least i have chances.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/24 04:19 PM
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The problem is the solution will probably affect girls overall numbers. I do believe in this day and age life is becoming quite zero sum
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/24 04:17 PM
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https://www.newsweek.com/american-men-dont-want-work-anymore-1897567
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/24 02:09 PM
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wage gap numbers are very very skewed though. First they dont include people not in the workforce, which men are increasingly dropping out of, and stay at home mom's are becoming much more uncommon. They also can get skewed by some sectors that pay really well, but most people (men or women) aren't in. Computer science in the 90s and 00s comes to mind. Younger women are outearning men in every major city at this point as long as you are comparing childless people. Millennials (a very large gener…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/24 01:09 PM
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plenty of teachers are talking about boys needing help. They dont do much other than the "we're raising awareness", but this problem has been known and at least discussed for a decade and a half now.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/24 01:04 PM
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bell hooks is well known for this criticism of feminism, just read any of her major books. Shes a pretty prominent feminist that many black feminists (and white feminists who desperately want approval) read. Shes a bit more reasonable at times, you should look her up and read her instead of just asking others for sources to try and win an internet debate later.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/24 01:02 PM
1

Self improvement is also patriarchy in applied form
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/24 06:03 PM
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how old are you if you dont mind me asking, most women in their 20s/real early 30s are not that way at all. They are annoyed.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/24 07:28 PM

being aware that some women are gold diggers and then also focusing on being successful is for what? For a woman who isnt a gold digger? The focus on yourself meme is so overplayed. The problem is the internet has magnified the self improvement (which just leads to bitterness toward others and self loathing when its plastered this much all over the internet) bullshit so much that the advice is absurd and honestly quite stale advice too.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/24 12:50 AM

Agreed on the first part, but the focus on yourself meme is getting stale. We're not talking about 22 year olds anymore, this subreddit is only getting older and older..hell id be willing to be it's mostly 30 somethings now. How much more focusing on ourselves do we need. Eventually we have to just own up to fact that men desire women more than women desire men, and this creates a patriarchal system way more than everything every wave of feminism has ever theorized combined
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/24 09:00 PM
9

women over 35 is inching to the standard of births. And while it is a higher risk of down syndrome, its not some massive increase like redpillers think.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/24 02:30 PM
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Actually, the only area where birth rates are increasing in places like the USA are 30 something women.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/24 02:19 PM
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not as much as redpillers think.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/24 01:35 PM
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people act like 30 something is old. Most late 30 year old women can have kids, and no they aren't that much more likely to be down syndrome babies. If you stay in reasonable shape, which isnt that hard if you dont eat shitty foods 24/7, and maybe just do like 30 minutes of walking a day, you dont just become some ugly physically decrepit person at 38. Especially as exercise science and nutrition have gotten better over the past 20 years.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/24 12:55 PM
0

Good luck finding a woman under 45 who isn't pretty far left. It's one thing to be left leaning and advocate for certain policies, it's another thing for it to be 100% your personality and angry at anyone who explains why they disagree. Conservative men these days are very similar fwiw
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/24 11:09 PM
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gender roles exist because men have to work harder to get a date/romance/casual sex/relationships/etc. This creates patriarchy, and gender roles. Men like women more than women like men. Most women want to be left alone, most men are desperate for female touch, approval, wanting to wake up next to us, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/24 03:34 PM
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i dont know who tf you are, so i cant say. Writing that out and posting it makes me think you are about 15 years old though.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/24 02:04 PM
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nope, it definitely is a thing on the surface. Feminists just have no idea why it is this way, so they are wrong about that.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/24 01:58 PM
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its not a conspiracy. Its just feminists dont really include sex and sexuality into the equation (probably because women always have access to sex and dates), so they dont know why patriarchies have always been the standard.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/24 12:58 PM

eh, reddit saw its first big influx of non nerds around 2009 or so, so ya a bit later than 2007. But it was a fair bit before 2012.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/24 05:04 PM
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1) its illegal almost everywhere 2) it costs a lot of money, some people don't have that kind of money 3) Like you said, its about somebody actually wanting to grow with you. This notion that its "all about men just only viewing women as a hole" is projection that shitty feminists use to further their agenda, and "alpha males" use to mask their insecurities and look cool to 8th graders.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/24 01:21 PM
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I was going to say 2007, because that is the release of the iphone, facebook opening to more than just college/high schoolers, youtube being bought by google in real late 2006, etc. 2005 was kinda the last year of early age of the internet. Really 2001 to 2005 was its own era, a fair bit different than say the 1993ish to 2000.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/24 01:11 PM

Then your original comment is worthless to the discussion
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/24 09:33 PM

Ya South Korea and Japan are fucked. They have huge technology addictions sadly
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/24 09:32 PM

Plummetting doesn't mean zero. Ordinary people who only use modern era (2007ish to the present) social media for photos and don't give any fucks about pills or whatever are having kids
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/24 04:20 PM
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the government helps out women, whenever corporations do anything (rare, but it happens) to help the "little guy" its almost always to women. The common man gets no help from anyone.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/24 01:20 PM
1

most women dont want that
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/24 12:18 PM
0

pro natalist policies dont do anything. You are on step 5 when step 1 is getting women to actually like a reasonable amount of men. We were told for decades things like "once women have good jobs they wont be so obsessed with marrying up" and "men can be nurturing and stay at home fathers, saying otherwise is actually patriarchy". This is all bullshit. The real is that women don't really like men that much, men get careers to impress women, women get careers to avoid men. However whats really fu…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/24 07:07 PM
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most men are very insecure yes. Especially conservative men. Liberal women are very insecure as well. you are giving the most charitable definition to independent woman and the least charitable to everything else. There is a much larger middle ground than you observe between a hyper independent (again, to the point of insecurity) woman which many women are doing these days and subservient role with a man controlling every aspect of her life.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/24 06:23 PM
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just because i have a dislike (which im not sure i even have), doesn't mean my observations aren't true.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/24 05:20 PM
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True, but id argue at least among my age range (20s/30s somethings) the liberal women and conservative men tend to be the woke overly feminist women and hyper masculine "im an alpha male" men. Which are the types of liberal women/conservative men who have massive similarities.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/24 05:18 PM
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no, anyone who is that obsessed with needing to be perceived as independent is insecure. Nobody is, even career focused men/women need the company to not be doing illegal activities/people to provide their goods and services too Same reason why andrew tate is a very insecure man. im not even conservative. Kamala 2024. Never voted republican in my life. There are a lot of interesting similarities between liberal women and conservative men when you open your eyes though
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/24 03:33 PM
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I'd argue the hyper independent woman is very insecure in her own way though tbh. Also The neurotic or delicate woman will still reject me for some other reason. Women just aren't as interested in men as vice versa.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/24 03:26 PM
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This. I know so many women who are insecure as hell and they all have boyfriends. I think we gatekeep relationships from men a lot tbh, mostly because its just harder to get a woman interested than the other way around
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/24 03:13 PM

I'd argue thats changing as women become more successful and men become more lonely.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/24 02:41 PM

Women have an own group preference bias, so I'd argue its more than just sexually.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/24 02:41 PM

So they arent as interested in men as men are women due to prevalence.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/24 02:34 PM

not even close. Men want marriage way more, hence why divorced men get remarried more often.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/24 02:33 PM

no need to be rude. Most feminists would disagree with you btw.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/24 02:31 PM

I would at least go on some dates and see if she wants to build something more. And its not just attracted for sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/24 02:10 PM

nope
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/24 02:00 PM

nope. We might like/want sex more than you, but we are also attracted to you more. Men like women more than women like men, this is for dating, 50 year marriages, casual sex, etc
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/24 02:00 PM

Your conclusion is wrong. You cant tell people where they derive happiness from
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/24 12:56 PM

does that only mean relationships? Could you use the "As an adult, figure out how to..." apply to women wanting to have more of the 150k/year jobs too?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/24 12:53 PM

most women can get a relationship easier too.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/24 12:52 PM

most women can get a relationship with men easier too.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/24 12:51 PM

You can tell the honest truth, women arent as interested in men as men are women. Its harder to be an attractive man in the eyes of women than an attractive woman in the eyes of men. You didnt specify this, but if your only reason for not encouraging suicide is because it makes you feel bad than its a selfish reason
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/24 12:45 PM
2

Women don't care as much in general, not just the attractive man stuff
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/24 10:40 PM
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Men want to be desired by women. Women don't care as much. Thats the genesis of all of humanity, especially gender roles.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/24 06:23 PM
2

reasonable take, agreed. It can be either the man or woman's fault depending on the situation u described
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/24 03:46 AM

If its publicly funded by the government, people way more important than me define it as a need.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/24 02:50 PM

i explained how society in a way views sex as a need.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/24 02:43 PM

Its not just a thread. Its saying you believe that sex is a need in various circumstances, but not in others.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/24 02:34 PM

its publicly funding human sexuality, saying its a need. Dont have sex then. Obviously rape is different because thats a crime involving somebody not consenting, but the vast majority of abortions are not from rapes.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/24 01:04 PM

the vast majority of womens' sex drives are not as high as the average males. Most people dont want same sex. Well men dont, women actually seem to all be pansexual/bi/etc now. We all just like female sexuality more than male. Thats the issue.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/24 01:00 PM

If sex is not a need defunding planned parenthood is 100% the proper decision.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/24 12:58 PM
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THIS. been saying this for fucking years. "Strong and independent woman" obsession is "I'm alpha" crap that men do
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/24 01:23 PM
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Being but no. Being in demand is being attractive
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/24 10:43 PM
3

Being very emotional here, not very masculine. He's not simping
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/24 05:17 PM
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Its not. Hes not simping. You sound like a child. Its not confusion. The average woman is seen as more attractive by people as a whole than the average man. Go outside and observe reality.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/24 04:30 PM
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nah hes right. Its not simping. Everyone just likes female sexuality more than male, so the average woman will be seen as more attractive. Hes actually very blackpill, you must be very young to not understand what simping is and isnt.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/24 04:27 PM
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Both do that. Feminists are just way more subtle about it compared to conservatives
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/24 06:06 PM
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Both men and women like to gatekeep relationships from men. Men do it because men in general struggle to attract women, so its competition. Women do it for yas queen feel goodism.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/24 04:54 PM
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Ive never called you a simp. Men do have to cater to what women want if they want a girlfriend/wife. At least to some degree. This notion that men or women shouldnt have to do any changing to attract a person is absurd and narcissistic.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/24 04:52 PM
1

the word cuck barely means that anymore
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/24 03:55 PM
0

Women not being attracted to non traditional masculinity will keep traditional masculinity alive more than anything else. Men want a romantic partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/24 03:54 PM
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There are a lot of women who will not date a man solely because hes a a month younger than them, shorter than them, less educated than them, makes less money than them, etc. That is why men get called simp, beta, cuck, faggot, etc by other men. If women dated/married/had sex with/generally liked men who were not traditionally masculine the "its other men" issue would go away.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/24 02:16 PM
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women can do the same to men. Ive heard women say Ryan Gosling and Chris Hemsworth are ugly/mid.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/24 09:10 PM
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Been saying for years, doctors can just look at an MRI alone and with like 97% accuracy know if it's a man or woman. This isn't new tbh. But if just one medical test can be that accurate alone then ya. The whole "it's just a social construct" argument has always been moral grandstanding btw
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/24 07:07 PM
1

Nah it's definitely making men miserable, most are realizing it's a pipedream to live an optimal/near optimal redpill life and men get angry realizing they aren't getting there
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/24 06:30 PM
1

Its also things feminists kinda tell women. Its crazy how modern feminism and redpill shit are very similar and overall making younger people miserable.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/24 02:54 PM
2

but women literally admit to masturbating to that book so they clearly want something about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/24 10:29 PM
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ive heard feminists say that "men and women are the same and all differences are because of social constructs". Men can be very happy with a stay at home wife/mom, so why cant women?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/24 10:29 PM
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ive heard feminists say that "men and women are the same and all differences are because of social constructs". Men can be very happy with a stay at home wife/mom, so why cant women?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/24 10:28 PM
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Women do not deem enough men attractive to end the patriarchy. Ive been saying this for 15 years, and this sub has been obsolete since. There are two worlds, domestic and "outside". The domestic world for men is only available to men semi successful or better in the outside world. Feminists want more stay at home husbands and fathers, but the very sentence itself implies women will date/marry/fuck/be attracted to these men. They arent.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/24 01:05 PM
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I would argue 20 years ago. By the late 00s these problems were definitely happening.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/24 12:02 PM
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i disagree with that. I remember back in the financial collapse age up until the mid 2010s or so him being very reasonable https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UGQNc1Nrvlo https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WmjKNGsQG7g
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/24 01:28 PM
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Ya i noticed this to. I would watch a lot of panel discussions on tvo canada (canada's PBS) and he was actually on a lot of them. He seemed the most sane of the bunch in many panels. Then the mid 2010s happened.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/24 01:24 PM

everyone treats men who have a stable romantic relationship better. Other men respect that he could find a woman who actually is interested in him, women view him as more attractive just because hes taken. Even studies show kids respect men in relationships more. Most men's experience is if they dont have women in their lives, nobody wants to be around them anyway. So yes, women are society in our minds.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/24 08:17 PM

Nah, he's probably not a jerk, but just boring.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/24 11:33 PM

Ya sure, but at the end of the day the man has more to lose, female attention is way more valuable and rarer. Most women l, not all, but most can get a bf within hours of opening herself to the outside world that particular day/evening/whatever. The man can't because women aren't as interesed
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/24 11:29 PM

Because men, like women, want everyone else to change and own up to their mistakes but not for them to do so. Also I think men have zero tolerance for women who stay in abusive relationships because they observe that most women can find another man easier. Which for the most part they are correct on.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/24 10:52 PM
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He does, but he still is insecure because he knows she can find somebody else way quicker
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/24 01:28 PM
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Because men fear losing their girlfriend/wife, and she has way more options to leave. So he has to bow to her way more often than the other way around
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/24 12:03 AM

men want to fuck women more than women want to fuck men, so men will allow women's feelings to warp reality. It is what it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/24 05:06 PM
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You have to find out what women in general want in a man. That's it. It's on women's sexuality. At this point we have the data. Men deem a lot more women in their lives as options than vice versa.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/24 10:34 PM
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women dont like men that much to message men. They dont deem very many men attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/24 07:31 PM

keep in mind the view is at the youngest a middle gen xer (early-mid 50s) talk show. Really its for oldest gen X/youngest boomers. Their era is different than the social media world which took off around 2007ish. They live in a bubble that is (ironically a bit) conservative and behind the times.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/24 05:47 PM

then they dont like very many men, and we cant spend all this time focusing on womens careers, womens issues, etc, because they can just get simps
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/24 01:59 PM

work in a corporate environment, spend less time online. Yes the amount of people who are not as online is dwindling, but they are still there.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/24 03:31 PM
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Don't care at all about being masculine if I had a woman I'm attracted to interested in me.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/24 11:18 PM
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Because a man desired by women integrates him into society a fuckton. A woman being single funnily enough integrates her into society more
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/24 04:21 PM
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I mean 30 and 23 is a bit of a gap, but it's hardly massive. Especially in the social media age of like the late 00s to the present, culture has kinda stagnated. Taylor Swift has been pretty much the top tier performer since 2008 for example. Marvel films being beloved happened for like 15 years, now every generation is bored of them. 30 is a younger millennial (34/35 is like the average millennial age now), 23 is an older zoomer (oldest zoomers are probably around 1998 births or so). I think pe…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/24 06:17 PM
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People want dates. Especially Gen zers who are late middle school through mid 20s right now
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/24 08:00 PM
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I think we all know the number isn't quite as large as that stat shows, but there are a few things that need to be talked about *A 29 year old girl with a 33 year old guy will skew things like this. There are way fewer relationships where she's 33 and he's 29. This also gets seen in reverse at say...single women vs men with 55+ year olds *Gen z women (this seemed to start with millennials) are way more lgbt than men *"Are we dating the same person" is way more common with women asking the questi…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/24 12:27 PM
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I think we all know the number isn't quite as large as that stat shows, but there are a few things that need to be talked about A 29 year old girl with a 33 year old guy will skew things like this. There are way fewer relationships where she's 33 and he's 29. This also gets seen in reverse at say...single women vs men with 55+ year olds Gen z women (this seemed to start with millennials) are way more lgbt than men "Are we dating the same person" is way more common with women asking the question.…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/24 07:48 PM
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mid 20s isnt what people are talking about here tbh. A 25 year old dating a 20 year old is barely a gap tbh. I think most are talking a 20 year old with a 32 year old or larger
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/24 07:33 PM

they are the minority though.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/24 07:26 PM

your "technicality" is wrong. You are using your autism as a excuse. When we talk dating, its 18 to like early 30s. So that's the population, not all 7.5 billion people on the planet or whatever. You claiming semantics is actually incorrect.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/24 07:20 PM

18-30 is the prime dating ages though. Its misguided to say "just roughly 10%". Its similar to when people say "only about 3-4% of the population is lgbt", but that doesn't mean only 3-4% of gen z is lgbt.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/24 07:05 PM
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lol at this being worth a damn. Dating apps all have shortages of women. An app for autism is gonna have this problem more than every other app.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/24 08:32 PM
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everyone who says the "find yourself" "you arent ready", etc is gatekeeping relationships. That is the case almost all the time. Nobody is 100% ready for anything, it doesnt mean you don't do it. I know plenty of people in very reasonably healthy bf/gf relationships and they are far from "100% ready".
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/24 08:31 PM
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the internet caused a lot of the cheerleading though. You even mention it in your post. "every corporate media center has some profeminist message on their WEBSITE" Men want pussy, the internet spreads this "allyship" more than anything else, especially in the social media age of the past 15 or so years
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/24 03:57 PM
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so my argument is looks kinda create class, so like looks create class, which then is class >>> gender > race > disability
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/24 12:31 AM
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id say its good looking privilege is most important, because that will lead you to way more opportunities to improve your class status. But out of what you listed, its class. A good looking black male/female will have a better life than an ugly white male/female, especially in post 1960s civil rights era.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/24 12:17 AM
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pretty much this. Almost everything in the world revolves around this
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/24 06:13 PM
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This just happened to me.....now I'm apparently a bad person
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/24 05:46 AM
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Lol. You assume I'm just trying to sabotage her future relationships. No, I wouldn't. Stop assuming the worst in men or maybe people in general.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/24 09:26 PM
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Are you serious right now? First off, I'm not rooting for her to never find anyone, but yes it would hurt me to see her constantly bring it up.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/24 09:25 PM
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This. I liked this girl, she rejected me, and I ghosted her. I didnt do it as a power play asshole move, i did it because I didnt want to hang out with her while she's bringing up a new boyfriend, or whatever.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/24 07:15 PM
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That's the common sentiment, but I think it's mostly bullshit. If men are afraid of exploring same sex stuff because they fear women will not view them sexually anymore, then they still value female sexuality more than male and id argue they aren't as sexually fluid then
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/24 05:32 PM
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Women are more socially integrated. They will go out and do things with friends, family, other guys, etc who take their minds off things. Men have more alone time, and with that comes dwelling on the past
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/24 07:09 PM
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Online: easily women Offline: historically men, but in recent years the online world has taken over the actions of even the offline world so who knows
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/24 02:35 AM
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eh, i think women are a lot more sexually fluid than men. I dont think the fluidity is a choice, but they can somewhat change their attraction based on options being presented.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/24 04:39 PM
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I'd go as far and say the manosphere age of the past 10-12 years is turning women into bisexual/pan/demi/etc or even lesbian. I think women's sexuality is way more fluid than men's after listening to them talk.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/24 02:49 PM
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Well if she asks me to help her with stuff like moving I will if I can. But if she doesn't help me with anything of the sort when I ask her I do get frustrated because I do think it's a one sided friendship
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/24 07:31 AM
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I would love to meet a girl who actually wants to be my friend. The ones who enter my life don't want to date me, but also have frequently asked me to help them move but never are around if I need help with something
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/24 04:02 AM
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Women definitely act much more hivemind then men. Especially with things like music and politics.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/24 08:40 PM

nope
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/24 07:10 PM
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Lgbtq is not single digits for later millennials and zoomers
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/24 12:42 AM
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I reached out to her a few times, and she gave me kinda "corporate-y" sounding responses of "im busy" and "dont have much time to socialize right now". Since then I have been avoiding her pretty much completely.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/24 07:55 PM
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no. But im annoyed that she thinks the friendship wasnt real too. Two things can be true that i can care about a person as a person but also develop romantic feelings.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/02/24 07:31 AM
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This just happened to me. Knew her for a little bit, she even said to me once "try being friends with the girl first". It happened to her. Liked her as a person when i first met her, but then started to hang out with her a lot and told her i grew kinda big feelings for her. Now she thinks the friendship wasnt real lol. Fuck this.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/24 06:04 PM

No they really arent anymore. They are saying that because being pursued is easier than doing the pursuing. This notion that there is some social pressure on women to not pursue is people thinking we are still in 1972 or some shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/24 02:43 PM
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Single women are viewed as a commodity and integrated socially way more with less effort. Single men are viewed as potentially harmful to women, additional competition for other men, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/24 09:14 PM
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As somebody who this just happened to (i didnt really have feelings for her until over time), i will say people do kinda view me as a weak bitch for "not making the move immediately"
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/24 07:35 PM
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Amongst the younger population no
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/24 07:48 PM
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poly is growing quite a bit tho
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/24 06:36 PM

we already see that actually the few times they approach and get rejected. They very frequently do the same thing immature men do with the get rejected -> "oh well your fat anyway bitch" thing that immature men do. Women will do something like get rejected -> "i bet you have a small dick", "youre probably gay" type stuff.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/24 06:34 PM

whats funny is a decade or so ago there were images like this widespread to talk about male ego https://guidetowomen.files.wordpress.com/2012/04/men-vs-women-mirror-jokes.jpg?w=584
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/24 06:32 PM
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kinda off topic, but what if youre an older male with little life experience dating a woman. Im 34 with no experience and found out from a few people there was one girl who was 22 who was into me, but i didnt pursue because of the age gap and being raised by feminists who complained about things like this at family dinners.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/24 03:02 PM
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Im fairly anti feminist and yet I actually go full circle and agree with the most militant feminists that sex selective abortion aborting males would be irrelevant to society. Women need to compete more for men than the other way around, because men like women more than women like men. Hell if there were more women than men and polyamory was a thing, i think society would be pretty fine overall. Lots of women now are actually saying they like 1 man/multiple women polyamory due to safety reasons
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/24 02:49 PM
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Women don't really seem enough men attractive
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/24 10:30 PM
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It's not just casual sex. It's about a romantic partner as well
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/24 10:26 PM
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People want reasonable adult experiences and that includes platonic friendships and romantic partners
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/24 10:22 PM
1

It leads to gender roles
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/24 10:20 PM
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downvote all u want, its true.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/24 06:16 PM
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The problem is the vast majority of the historical success women have contributed to society will be viewed as child raising and domestic, which feminists don't want to do anymore. Eventually feminists need to realize that in order to end gender roles women have to do things like date younger, marry men who make less, and even things like consider a higher % of men as casually dateable/fuckable
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/24 03:43 PM

That's fine, but when the patriarchy exists because of women's wants then they can't complain
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/24 02:54 AM

Not sure how old you are, but "ultra liberal" is pretty fucking mainstream amongst anyone under 35 or so
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/24 09:40 PM
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Lol I'm not calling it a conspiracy wtf. It's a bunch of lonely people not in relationships and get jealous they aren't in one. So the crabs in a bucket mentality stands. And all those other subreddits have the same mentality
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/24 02:04 AM
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been saying that for years. r/relationship advice is just "break up, break up, etc". Its a crabs in a bucket mentality
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/24 06:11 AM
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It benefits a small amount of men at the top of socio economic totem poles the most, then women as a whole, then the rest of men
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/24 03:15 AM
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Always hard to do, but way easier pre 2008 7/08ish or so
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/24 03:14 AM
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Most of those gen z not identifying as straight though are women. It's not even male-female ratio for gen z gays
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/23 12:49 AM
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gate keeping "just be alone and find yourself, you aren't ready for real relationships yet!" crap.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/23 05:35 PM
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I would argue this doesn't just apply to religious environments, but any extremist environment. My parents were both militant feminists ("men and women are the exact same it's all just a social construct!" type garbage) and it killed my self confidence. I'm now 36 and have never really been with a woman and have watched people a decade younger than me pass me by multiple times over now lol
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/23 02:59 AM
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Not true, I think most women aren't really attracted to the men who they "should" be, especially in their 20s
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/23 11:17 PM
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They're all bad lol c'mon
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/23 08:12 PM
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I think you are overthinking it. Put yourself out there, find some hobbies and what not, and men will definitely be interested as long as you are remotely friendly. You might have to cut out the men who are a bit inauthentic which is an emotional labor, but the positives outweigh the negatives unless you are so obsessed with never being even remotely hurt by a relationship, friends, family, romance, or some other kind
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/23 07:05 PM
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for women, just in general putting yourself out there. You will have some good ones and some bad ones, and eventually you just cut the bad ones out
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/23 06:39 PM
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women can get meaningful relationships easier too though
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/23 05:43 PM
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single women will be in relationships whenever they are ready. Single men? you aren't single by your choice
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/23 05:42 PM
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People forget that a 40 year old was like 24 when modern era social media was taking off in 2007ish. Im 36, and I know plenty of people who haven't matured a day since they first got a iPhone, Facebook account, etc type stuff
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/23 02:40 AM
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women dont deem enough men attractive to end the "patriarchy" and "evil capitalism". Just be better to observe, vocalize these facts at times, but mostly adapt
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/23 06:04 PM
0

the economy would be destroyed, as both capitalism and socialism require a healthy population pyramid
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/23 04:56 PM
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Individualism and "being independent" showcases how much we don't like it....eventually. The "be independent and find yourself" shit that (primarily) liberal women and conservative men say (to different demographics) is responsible for the vast majority of contemporary problems.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/23 07:29 PM
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and guess what, when you remove seniors its close to 55/45. You are being misleading
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/23 08:58 PM
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ya when you include senior citizens.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/23 05:39 PM
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because women dont really like men that much
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/23 11:52 PM
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Again, never once said men don't need women. You are seeing something over and over that I'm not saying.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/23 02:57 AM
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we do
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/23 08:38 PM
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they arent though. They still need men and others to pair up to have kids to provide their goods and services. Its just pushing the problem down the road rather than this facade of independence. Unless her career is like subsistence farming or some crap, and technically even that requires that other people don't ruin the environment.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/23 08:10 PM
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nobody talks about the kids factor because nobody is having kids anymore
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/23 02:57 PM
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Never once said men don't rely on people. I hate the "I'm independent" bull shit, and it mostly comes from women tbh. Well some conservative men too. Really the problem is liberal women and conservative men
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/23 01:44 AM
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not for much longer is the point, and the drop off will be quite big and quite fast. All it takes is 2-3 generations of this (which were getting close to) to see pretty rapid changes.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/23 10:16 PM
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in most countries no. Also as boomers start to reach their 70s/80s, a very large generation will start to diminish.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/23 09:39 PM
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eventually though the economy will crumble because of this, because both capitalism and socialism require new people to keep things going. These independent women are still 100% reliant on others for her to provide goods and services to.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/23 09:38 PM
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no, its definitely proper gatekeeping plenty.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/23 01:12 AM
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self actualization usually will be "i want relationships, both platonic and romantic", so the problem still stands. This "just be alone and find yourself" crap is gatekeeping more than anything else.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/23 12:31 AM
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Individualism is the problem, not the solution
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/23 09:33 PM
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Russia and China are having similar problems with gender relations though, I think this is just a product of life being too easy and "were all the exact same its just a social construct!" stupid mentalities.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/23 03:56 PM
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The problem is these things do exist but have very few women in them
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/23 01:28 PM
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It seems like everyone wants men to fail in hopes of 1) Women want men to fail as some revenge fantasy/sisterhood strength 2) Other men want men to fail because "I'm the one she should be fucking" Its just fucking sad. A lot of people would be happier if we could just be more encouraging and happy to see others succeed (in life in general, but dating seems to always be the hot topic so that primarily i guess)
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/23 01:58 PM
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they are, but if its always a one way street than its not really each other getting help.
/r/AllPillDebate16/10/23 05:38 PM

its not brainwashing. People like social connections. Wanting love is a social connection, arguably THE social connection. Platonic friendships AND romantic relationships are part of humanity
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/23 02:06 PM
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also who are you going to get to immigrate? This population decline is happening everywhere outside of a few countries.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/23 03:16 AM
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Sexual desire has always been around, thus patriarchy has as well
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/23 04:46 PM
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Because your original reply was anything meaningful Patriarchy has always been around. Men have always had to go out into the world and do stuff to get women's affection
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/23 04:34 PM
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nope, you are just stupid
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/23 02:41 PM
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LOL this isnt the fault of the "patriarchy". This is the fault of women's sexuality. You act like the patriarchy is the starting point. The starting point is people's desires and goals, which leads to the patriarchy.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/23 02:20 PM
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most men are not. Some men are getting a ton more casual sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/23 02:13 PM
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Women are the gatekeepers of both, been that way since the late 00s/early 10s and the rise of social media.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/23 02:12 PM
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we're not. The gini coefficient is saying that most men are barely getting anything
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/23 02:11 PM
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there isnt. Women are only 51% of the USA because of senior citizens. In EVERY major US city there are more men aged 18 to 55 than women except one: NYC.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/23 05:23 PM

its platonic friendships with men and women and romantic/sexual relationships with women (primarily, since most men are heterosexual)
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/23 05:22 PM
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most men are incels. Most men can not get dates/romance/sex whenever they want, including married men
/r/AllPillDebate29/09/23 07:21 PM
-1

depends on how feminist. Abortion rights im cool with. But "OMG YOU DONT THINK MEN AND WOMEN ARE THE EXACT SAME AND ITS JUST A SOCIAL CONSTRUCT?!??!" type feminists are fucking insufferable and stupid
/r/AllPillDebate27/09/23 06:20 PM
10

this is nothing new, been known for years now. The world hates male sexuality
/r/AllPillDebate27/09/23 05:53 PM
1

Redpill era was reasonable up until trumpish. It's been over and done for years now, not just since Kevin Samuels passed away or some crap
/r/AllPillDebate23/09/23 08:14 PM
0

weve lost 2 generations now. Youngest gen Xers (mid 40s) All millennials (23 year olds to about 42 year olds) Oldest zoomers (18 to 22ish)
/r/AllPillDebate22/09/23 04:01 PM
4

Rich coopers
/r/AllPillDebate22/09/23 01:05 AM
-2

They have. Men get careers throughout history and still today to maximize their attractiveness to women. Women get careers now to avoid pairing up with men they aren't 100% satisfied with, which is pretty much all men. Women will find any reason to deem a man unattractive, men will be like "well she's cheated on every bf before me, I'll make it work" Men like women more than women like men
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/23 04:59 PM
1

men having male friends is important, but it does seem to be a dating/romance with women first and foremost. Most men by their early 20s want to wake up next to a girl who wants to be with them more than their bros they slept over and played Call of Duty with as a cope because none of them have girlfriends.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/23 04:06 PM
9

Hard disagree. I actually think only women can solve it. The male loneliness epidemic is mostly just do to a couple of cold hard truths: Women are doing better than men now economically, especially 20, 30, and even some 40 somethings Women just don't really like men that much (or at least nowhere near as much as men like women) Women can be integrated into society way easier than men, because men like women's presence in most places more than women like men's presence at places. I know so many w…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/23 04:02 PM

Lol at thinking yahoo personals is anywhere close to the scope that tinder or Instagram is. The smartphone made online dating acceptable. People forget that before the late 00s or so meeting a romantic partner online was considered lame and pathetic
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/23 12:32 AM
1

working out, data modeling, and GASP video games
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/23 01:59 PM
2

Women's hobbies more productive LOLOL
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/23 10:37 PM
3

initial perceptions lead to longer term integration. If people perceive single women as safer, they will be included and given chances to prove themselves
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/23 05:05 PM
11

Single men are viewed at best as blobs, at worst you are viewed as incel-ish, "what's wrong with him", feared (if you are a larger guy especially), etc. Single women are almost praised as "waiting for what she wants", men view her as "omg she's single wow maybe she'll be interested", or not giving into the patriarchy to some degree
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/23 04:29 PM
3

It's not other men's fault entirely. A lot of men don't want to be deemed feminine by women too because they get desexualized by those women
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/23 03:32 PM
2

It's true. It's always been this way, but way more so since the real late 00s or so with the rise of social media. People say bad shit about incels all the time, but I'd argue they are the focal point of the world economy
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/23 03:30 PM
8

This. Single women are way more integrated into society than single mem
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/23 03:27 PM
2

How old are you? I'm in my mid 30s and it's not an even playing field
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/23 03:47 PM
3

First half of the 00s was fine, by 07/08ish the problem of today was starting. So no
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/23 06:15 AM
10

Maybe so, but the vast majority of reddit users are gonna be in a first world country
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/23 10:14 PM
56

ill be honest, in this day and age i think men will happily commit/marry more women than the other way around too. This whole "men are the gatekeepers of relationships" is cope. Women are the gatekeeps of sex and of long term commitment.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/23 07:19 PM
1

"if the math has to even out overall and there is a 50/50 M/F population distribution where is the missing piece?" This is actually not true. There is about 100k more men than women in every age number from 18 to 55. The only reason why women are 51% of the USA is because of senior citizens.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/23 05:18 PM
1

Women thinking they are exclusive with a man but that man is dating multiple women is probably the main reason, but other reasons I think are: 1) Increasing amount of LGBT younger women. Historically there usually was a very small larger amount of gay men than lesbian women, but millennial and gen z lgbt women are outnumbering the lgbt men. 2) Theres probably a lot more 33 year old men dating a 28 year old woman than there are a 20 year old guy dating a 17 year old girl. High school in general i…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/23 05:16 PM
1

well you need to, its not random, its frequently mentioned on this very sub. Women have never deemed men very desireable, social media just unleashed this info to the vast majority of men. Men need careers more than women do, even most women agree to this. When men get careers they deem more women attractive, when women get careers they deem fewer men attractive. read up on the paradox of choice, its very very important.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/23 07:49 PM
0

because these companies want to appear gender equality focused, when men need careers more than women do to be respected. Its not even economics, its men are just not desirable. Economics is the consequence of that. And no, read up on the paradox of choice. Limiting women's options would actually cause them to be more interested in men.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/23 07:02 PM
2

they were limited to a much smaller area of men, and the workplace still kinda prioritized male employment before social media optics took over.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/23 06:58 PM
2

social media is everywhere. The internet (especially the in our pockets era) reversed everything people believed in past eras. Its not economics, its not the west/east. Its the internet letting the largest cat ever out of the bag: most women do not find most men attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/23 06:25 PM
1

there really isnt a lot of 35 year old women who want to date a 23 year old man.
/r/AllPillDebate16/08/23 02:18 PM
8

i have to ask though, if you are so me multi millionaire....why the fuck are you even here? Spare me the "to help" crap. You have millions and are posting on an incelesque subreddit?
/r/AllPillDebate15/08/23 07:29 PM
1

peak gym culture is a bubble about to burst. Its not some epic path, and i see so many younger people burning out and quitting. If you are doing it obsessively for 2-3 hours a day/5 days a week and then going home and spending hours on youtube/instagram gym culture shit you will burn out and become bitter. Go to the gym for an hour or so a day, 4 days a week. Go hard for that hour, track YOUR numbers, and then maybe read an article or two a week about how to improve. Stop making it your fucking …
/r/AllPillDebate15/08/23 07:27 PM
1

testosterone + social media jealousy + the general feeling society is coming apart and men fearing they never got to live a fun life. The 3rd part of the equation is probably caused mostly by the 2nd part. Its crazy how if instagram, tiktok, onlyfans, youtube, twitter, facebook (2007 to like 2014 at least, now its kinda a zombie site) and of course the primary vessel to use them (smartphones) never came about how many more people would be stable and happy. Imagine being a 20 something in the 80s…
/r/AllPillDebate01/08/23 03:24 PM
1

they are by half the country. Being overly loved by half the country might be worth it, especially if you live in a major city. Ya just dont go to bumfuck arkansas and you are fine.
/r/AllPillDebate01/08/23 03:14 PM
1

everywhere, stem representation, senators, CEOs, business owners, etc
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/23 04:22 AM
0

no, it was used to say "how dare you say 50/50 ratios shouldnt exist", which they shouldnt because men and women have fairly different brains
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/23 01:52 AM
2

eh there kind of has. Blank slate feminism is pretty rampant in younger crowds. For a while saying men and women's brains are different was considered sexist in the eyes of a lot of feminists.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/23 07:51 PM
1

because theyre not attracted to guys much anymore, dating game is on women's terms
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/23 08:03 PM
3

the dating trends have been in my favor. You are grasping. You go find it if you are so confident things arent even more skewed.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/23 07:31 PM
1

if you think the new data proves me wrong, show it. This is what i was able to find quite quickly, and id be willing to bet you are just delaying the truth. Go find it yourself if I'm so "out of date", when ALL the trends say things would even be worse now for men
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/23 04:36 PM
0

the trends are more in my favor.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/23 04:35 PM
-1

Are men doing well on campuses? Even with the short supply from what I read people aren't really dating or fucking much at all
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/23 07:19 PM
1

Ya easily. Also lol at she's 23 but looks 19. Like that is some huge age difference physically unless you literally did nothing but drink beer and eat donuts
/r/AllPillDebate22/06/23 04:00 PM
1

I mean if you think that data from 2013 is so old that it's irrelevant and if anything the trends of 2013 are only larger, you are wrong. Go look it up
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/23 03:53 PM
-1

the data would be in my favor even more. The trends have only gotten bigger since 2013
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/23 04:41 AM
4

if anything the data would be even more in favor for me
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/23 04:40 AM
2

couldnt it be both
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/23 04:32 AM
1

we didnt lose focus, women did. Women don't use instagram to connect with friends and family, they use it to farm likes and follows, which is the new currency and net worth of our era. And of course they also know that more likes and follows can lead to ad opportunities, aka actually currency and net worth.
/r/AllPillDebate20/06/23 02:19 PM
1

its true. The dating problems of the current era were around before tinder took off around 2013 or so. The late 00s were already seeing these issues en masse.
/r/AllPillDebate20/06/23 02:17 PM
2

Instagram isnt really for men period.
/r/AllPillDebate20/06/23 02:16 PM
1

eh it does if you kinda read between the lines
/r/AllPillDebate14/06/23 02:56 PM
1

weve known this since 2007 as well.
/r/AllPillDebate14/06/23 02:42 PM
0

nobody says that unless they are trying to score equality points
/r/AllPillDebate14/06/23 02:08 PM
0

nah, 2007 was when all this shit began.
/r/AllPillDebate14/06/23 02:07 PM
2

good luck ever being any of those things
/r/AllPillDebate14/06/23 01:32 PM
8

congratulations, you are living in 2007, aka realizing that men want sex more than women + posting on it on centralized internet.
/r/AllPillDebate14/06/23 01:21 PM
19

women would be fine. Women seem to be way more sexually fluid than men (spare me the "there is exactly the same amount of bi men as women"), so plenty would pair up with each other.
/r/AllPillDebate07/06/23 07:44 PM
1

not joking at all. Earth is fine at the moment. We can easily sustain this amount, only thing stopping us from doing so is corporate greed
/r/AllPillDebate27/05/23 05:05 AM
1

were not overpopulated. Not yet. Yes if birth rates were something stupid like 4 or 5+ per woman all over the world sure, but were not even close to that
/r/AllPillDebate26/05/23 05:21 AM
1

They can hover around 2.05 which is replacement level. But very few are even there
/r/AllPillDebate25/05/23 09:27 PM
1

they might not be sexually attracted to those men, but thats not necessarily a reasonable comparison there is some degree of choice in sexuality
/r/AllPillDebate25/05/23 03:26 PM
1

the problems are: if the population pyramid is overwhelmingly old people the economy will suffer And if people want relationships/families/sex, then you are telling people to suffer socially and mentally in order to "lower the population"
/r/AllPillDebate25/05/23 02:49 PM
0

because men seem to be straight or gay (most are straight). Women are the much more choice oriented sexuality
/r/AllPillDebate25/05/23 05:43 AM
0

yes it does
/r/AllPillDebate25/05/23 05:42 AM
2

the world population is slowing down in most major countries, and many places starting to shrink. Also people are living a tad longer, but thats old people and not really the future.
/r/AllPillDebate25/05/23 05:41 AM
1

all women seem to be bi, men seem to be gay or straight.
/r/AllPillDebate25/05/23 05:40 AM
2

Fluidity does mean though it's chosen to some degree
/r/AllPillDebate25/05/23 02:16 AM
1

https://www.health.harvard.edu/blog/sexual-fluidity-and-the-diversity-of-sexual-orientation-202203312717 Especially seen in women
/r/AllPillDebate25/05/23 01:35 AM
0

So they overcome it by doing stuff in the outside world, adding to the patriarchy. The only way to end the patriarchy is for men to have more access to dates/romance/casual sex/marriage/etc
/r/AllPillDebate24/05/23 11:53 PM
0

Sexuality is more of a choice than people think. Also 90% of women end with men is true, but that is still enough to increase the amount of men who will never find anyone
/r/AllPillDebate24/05/23 10:12 PM
3

Feminism pushes individualism for women as much as capitalism does for men if not more. I don't think there is enough ways for individualism to work
/r/AllPillDebate24/05/23 09:54 PM
4

Won't happen. People don't like going back in lifestyle Also telling men to overcome their desperation for sex is unfair for men
/r/AllPillDebate24/05/23 09:50 PM
8

nope. Depopulation leads to less people existing which means youll have too many chieftans and not enough indians. Depopulation leads to economic contraction by the very definition of economics. It needs PEOPLE. This way everyone gets to decide for themselves without being coerced in anyway whether to be in a relationship or not and those who choose to be in a relationship will have the freedom to have one working spouse while the other stays home to take care of the kids. Also women dont want t…
/r/AllPillDebate24/05/23 08:07 PM
4

Because men who went into stem are socially more on the spectrum
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/23 09:53 PM
8

this. Dating apps are bad for most people's mental health, but general social media is the bigger problem by far
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/23 08:10 PM
4

i actually think a lot of white nationalist men hate their own women. Its weird, a lot of these white nationalist males (well observe) i meet go through a life path of get rejected by women of their own race in their teens/early 20s think they need to restore the white race (even though youd think they would do the opposite since they were supposedly rejected by half of the race) get (usually asian) girlfriend she eventually realizes hes fuckin lame, leaves him
/r/AllPillDebate17/05/23 01:10 PM
7

Because women aren't attracted to men as much as men are to women
/r/AllPillDebate09/05/23 05:30 PM
6

Ending of gender roles has to lead to a healthy sex life. It doesn't for men
/r/AllPillDebate09/05/23 04:58 PM
4

I love how stupid feminists are. They will literally say men need to focus on other things and then at the same time demand more women in positions of power everywhere
/r/AllPillDebate06/05/23 03:02 PM
2

Rollo is a grift. He's saying whatever his audience wants to hear for money
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/23 08:58 PM
1

you cant, but thats the point. The patriarchy is here to stay, trying to legislate it away via goverment will never work.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/23 03:24 PM
3

be more attracted to a higher % of men. Acknowledge that what you (women) want in a man pretty much entirely explains the patriarchy (be older, make good money, educated, physically fit, tall, exciting social life, etc).
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/23 05:40 AM
1

Spend less time on the internet. Learn how to teach yourself new things.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/23 06:27 PM
2

who tf says 7/24
/r/AllPillDebate22/03/23 03:46 PM
2

it kind of already is, pre covid maybe not but it was growing. Now it somewhat is. Genetic determinism in general is on the rise
/r/AllPillDebate22/03/23 01:27 PM
43

ya i go on speed dating events frequently, and as a guy I get asked by the women almost immediately what my job is. Almost always its as an icebreaker (as you said, we spend 40+ hours a week doing it, as much as people say you are not your job you kinda are to an extent), very rarely does the woman come across as scoping you out because shes a gold digger.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/23 04:05 PM

Thanks same to you
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/23 05:38 PM

I noticed how many times my family (especially my mom) would complain to him how hes not "feminist" enough, since he doesnt really do many chores/housework/etc, and how "men and women are the exact same its just a social construct!" crap kept spewing out of my mom/brother/sister's mouth. I then said you need to fuck dad more then if men and women are the exact same. At first my dad was kinda mad at me for saying it (because hes whipped by my mom), but then he got a little bit of confidence to sp…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/23 05:26 PM

I once told my mom in front of my family (dad - dick between his legs pussy, brother semi autistic, sister die hard feminist) that she doesnt have sex with dad enough to end the patriarchy. My entire family, especially my mom, havent looked at me the same ever since.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/23 05:14 PM
6

Because they saw how much money and time these red piller types are getting, they want in on the money. Right now the two best ways to make money are: 1) Be a hot girl on instagram who doesn't commit to men 2) Be a fuck bitches, women are cunts "guru" on the net. Of course the mainstream media is a bit less misogynistic, still doing the "we need to redefine masculinity" routine that hasn't worked for 50 years now.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/23 05:10 PM
1

the problem is thats the patriarchy, so its not allowed as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/23 03:23 PM
3

its honestly many reasons, not just women dating older or women sharing a man. 26 year olds dating 32 year olds (most likely the woman being the 26 year old skews the data) Younger women are more likely to be LGBT than men, especially when factoring in the B part There are just more men aged 18 (all the way up to 55 actually) than women in the USA. Women are only 51% of the population due to senior citizens. Those are other reasons to include. When we are seeing this much of a gap between men an…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/23 02:52 PM
2

1) getting laid might mean they had sex 1 time in the past year (what the stat normally comes from). Getting laid stats should be "getting the amount of sex you want" 2) A lot of those stats exempt virgins. Meaning 70% of men who have been laid once in their life have had sex in the past year. But when you add virgins to the studies, it would drop more.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/23 06:13 AM
5

the problem with that is you just explained the patriarchy. Men: go out into the world and do shit, then the women will follow Women: "why are men all the business owners, high ranking officials, leaders of hobby groups?!??!"
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/23 08:28 PM
5

it seems like it. I mean were not talking being able to just point at a woman and be allowed to fuck her. But it does seem like men need some level of intimacy than is sexual and most men want women. If we need to care about gender equality in the workplace/business owners/start ups/government/etc, then we need to care about men not getting sex to some degree yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/23 07:26 PM
1

If men stopped caring about the approval of women our world would collapse.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/23 05:43 PM
2

This. 70% of men are getting laid is such a misguided stat for so many reasons
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/23 05:08 PM
8

society forms because men want to be sexually attractive towards women, not the other way around. Im so tired of this "we need to move men away towards wanting sex". Its such a stupid talking point. Large amounts of men arent getting ANY sex. What are they just supposed to not care about something thats a pretty normal want?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/23 03:29 PM
1

if you fucked up in life and were a bit failure to launch as a male in the past, you werent completely behind. Now as our population ages, there are fewer younger women who might still be impressed by you if you are 25 and she is 21. Declining young population is a big reason for these dating issues.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/23 04:07 PM
1

no we arent
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/23 01:50 AM
1

No it won't. Who are you going to provide goods and services too if they don't exist. Population need to skew younger and at least replace themselves
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/23 04:58 PM
1

I don't see that working. The internet is the cheapest form of entertainment these days, especially for women (men have to pay to get their accounts boosted on dating apps). Recessions make things worse now
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/23 04:55 PM
1

even tho bi women are way more likely to pair up with men, it still doesnt take away from the fact that bi women do pair up with women, which shrinks the dating pool.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/23 06:16 AM
1

there isnt among younger people. Bi and les women outnumber bi and gay men by a lot among gen z
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/23 04:25 AM
1

there are other reasons id argue, but i agree with your reason as well: women dating other women. More women (especially 20/30 somethings) are identifying as bisexual there are more men in every age bracket than women until you get to senior citizens. For example women are only 51% of the USA because of the 65+ crowd
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/23 11:34 PM
3

again, some are. But i think people are overstating this number because they demand 50/50 ratios everywhere
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/23 10:19 PM
1

ga state/ga tech?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/23 05:58 PM
4

amongst the younger generations thats not true. The bi + lesbian count of women is much larger than the bi + gay count of men.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/23 05:42 PM
4

Its a bunch of things. Women are increasingly bisexual/lesbian. There are still more gay males than lesbian women, but bisexual + lesbian women is larger than bisexual + gay males. Also about 30 to 35% of girls under 40 are identifying as lgbt, thats not the case for males. You can say "well some men are afraid to come out", eh i disagree. I think that is moreso people who say that have this radical obsession with 50/50 ratios everywhere. Women give up more in sex, since their body is altered. T…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/23 05:39 PM
1

youre not a prisoner
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/23 05:27 PM
1

that even if your choice loses the vote, that you will abide
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/23 04:36 AM
1

people vote. It is what it is. You are agreeing to these principles and still are owing people something
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/23 11:06 PM
1

the state is people. The government is people. Taxes are paid by people.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/23 08:16 PM
3

because men and women don't know what its like being the opposite sex. Women probably need more social networks, so even though they have more, they still might not have their needs met? Also social networks can be addicting. We easily see this with likes/retweet/follows culture online, it can be the same offline. I think a lot of men don't even know what its like to be invited to places that much, having texts everyday from multiple social circles, or seeing their notification tab number go up …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/23 08:13 PM
2

The phrase nobody owes you anything is the dumbest phrase ever uttered.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/23 01:54 PM
-1

If the women aren't interested in men men can't find love
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/23 05:21 AM
1

U love that 1 link, it's barely any women
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/23 10:18 PM
3

Children don't exist without pussy
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/23 09:35 PM
1

Nobody cares dude there aren't women in Ukraine anymore just get over it
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/23 09:30 PM
0

Lol if u think that proves your point. 25% lulz. Many I'd be willing to bet are fem preferred bi or just lesbian.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/23 07:01 PM
9

All 9 of em
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/23 03:48 PM
26

been saying this for a while, the women and children are gone.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/23 06:15 AM
1

this is just demographics and statistics. Height is a great example. Men prefer women like 5'2" to 5'9". Thats about 90% of women. Women prefer men 6'0" (is it 6'2" now idk?). Thats about 15% of men.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/23 05:57 AM

It's not 50/50. Among non senior citizens this country is a sausage fest. Women are only 51% of the usa because they are overwhelming the amount of the over 65 crowd. There is a legit shortage of women. Also this doesn't factor in how young women are very likely to be leftist and possibly lesbian. Historically there usually was more gay males but among zoomers I'm not so sure, I see a lot of lesbian couples
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/23 06:56 AM
3

David Reimer's life and death disagrees with you. Also, if our brains were exactly the same then transpeople wouldnt have any argument, and the way we nutured as people for thousands of years wouldnt of developed.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/23 02:22 PM
8

not entirely different, but the things we are different arent going to change by yelling at the opposite sex or demanding government legislation.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/23 08:05 AM
1

ALL
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/22 12:34 AM
1

ALL
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/22 07:09 PM
1

ALL
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/22 06:24 PM
1

thats all is it not
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/22 04:41 PM
1

All of em
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/22 04:30 PM
1

every church is strange
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/22 03:11 PM
1

yes!
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/22 03:02 PM
1

nope mostly incels!
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/22 06:34 AM
1

moreso on Sunday!
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/22 03:45 AM
1

not really filled anymore, just incels
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/22 01:52 AM
1

Nothing
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/22 12:27 AM
1

thats all thats left
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/22 11:14 PM
1

incels mostly and really really old families who think it still matters.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/22 10:25 PM
1

christmas cope bra. Churches are dying and just an incel cope for lonely men
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/22 08:31 PM
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Pretty much. It's just now used for incels
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/22 07:44 PM
1

Families are barely going to church these days, it's an incel haven now
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/22 04:50 PM
1

Bunch of incel copers
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/22 04:43 PM
1

They are.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/22 03:22 PM
1

And the most who are hypocrites are coping.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/22 02:34 PM
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nah, most use it as a way to feel better than others but dont practice what the preach
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/22 06:29 AM
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The "people are remaining virgins because they are religious" is a cope. They are attending church more in hopes to meet a girl
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/22 10:36 PM
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men lie about their sexual conquests, god pill is a cope. You have no idea what you are talking about.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/22 06:42 PM
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that last part is circular logic. Most people (average) are describing themselves as very lonely, close to half of young men are now single and going a year+ without sex, women are increasingly depressed, etc. Most people are not "doing fine". This is not just angsty teens.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/22 03:32 PM
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most are not. Most are miserable.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/22 05:15 AM
1

It's also increased human purposeless and there is a lot of evidence that the internet is making people miserable, it's just addicting
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/22 04:59 AM
1

Efficiency is bad for everyday American. That helps the elites way more.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/22 03:18 AM
1

Automation is only going to ruin lives. It ruins purpose and eventually will cause humans to become rabid
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/22 10:46 PM
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we do have to deal with those things. Modern medicine is only going so far btw, life expectancy is going down in many places. Also people might not admit it, but they kinda want families. "Fuck having kids" people are ruining the world just as much as people who need to "spread their seed" and have 7. The population needs to be at least at replacement level to keep systems and the overall economy functional.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/22 09:48 PM
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natural as in "i dont want kids and family", perhaps i worded that wrong im sorry. We are "more peaceful" really? Eh its debatable. Also we aren't healthier at all, we are on more drugs that is catching up to people quickly. Life expectancy is starting to go down due to a lot of physical and mental health issues. You can't have an economy thats healthy in a aging population as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/22 06:40 PM
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not when economic infrastructure has been built over 20 years. There has never been a period of time where weve seen a natural population decline. It wouldn't just be "well we were fine 20 years ago"
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/22 06:23 AM
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Life itself requires that. Some capitalist business requires new people to pay for business lost when people die. Life itself is a ponzi scheme.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/22 06:20 AM
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social security isnt really a ponzi scheme, we know where the money is going. If social security is a ponzi scheme, then it could be argued that life itself is a ponzi scheme and I would argue that you are overly blaming something like social security.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/22 08:45 PM
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birth rates have been plummeting. More people are living to 80+ years old than ever, but they will eventually die and will not be replaced. This problem appears like a non issue right now, but the problem is looming
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/22 08:43 PM
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So in conclusion, not having kids is what is ultimately good for humanity. It should be a personal choice that is not affected by outside pressure. You eventually will die. We are already seeing economic problems from having an aged population here in the USA. Also, if your country is dying, you and your career mean jack shit because you need people to provide goods and services too. Its like that one scene in the office when Ryan brings Michael to his school to speak, and in classic Michael fas…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/22 08:42 PM
-2

prostitution should be, obviously over 18
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/22 04:14 PM
-1

its rife with abuse because its illegal. Make it legal and it can be regulated
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/22 03:54 PM
2

pretty much spot on for me as well. Leftists become capitalist bootstrappers all the time when talking about dating issues (especially for men). Conservatives then argue we need "equality" in dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/22 02:47 PM
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dismantling capitalism is dismantling human nature. People want to stand out, see their work advance their life, etc. Hell even the twitch socialists frequently say/do things to gain more followers, the modern era form of net worth.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/22 02:44 PM
1

the internet was created by the department of defense.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/22 02:42 PM
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going to the gym is capitalism. Not in the most completely traditional way, but especially in the social media age where so many people are using the gym as a way to build followers and what not. Self improvement is capitalism.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/22 02:39 PM
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men dont necessarily like capitalism, but we know its our only chance to get a woman. As a man you have to stand out in some way/shape/form, aka capitalizing on your time and labor. The irony is I know so many leftist feminist women who are "all about their career" (aka capitalizing on their labor), but then say how much they "hate capitalism its so evil!!!"
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/22 02:37 PM
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and when society collapses because the country and world becomes a geriatric old folks home, your "i make my money im an independent woman" shit will be just that. If there is nobody to provide your goods and services your career offers, then you will see why this problem is more than just "men too horny euuuu".
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/22 04:58 PM
2

red pill itself prob peaked in the mid 10s sometime, but red pill philosophy is massive now. Andrew Tate is basically red pill, but does he use that exact term.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/22 05:31 AM
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collapse level is under 2.05ish. Japan's population is already declining as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/22 02:50 PM
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Women's preferences = 6 feet and above = about 18% of the population Men's preferences = between like 5 foot 1 and like 5 foot 9 = about 95% of the population Its a numbers game
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/22 10:23 PM
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What does loneliness have to do with women? Your isolation is self-inflicted. Women have extensive social support networks because they preserve healthy platonic relationships with other women. No, women just are viewed as less dangerous so everyone includes them more. They get way more opportunities to be social. It takes two to tango.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/22 04:50 AM
1

Most are bi or lesbian now
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/22 03:30 PM
1

being obsessed with emotional intelligence and not realizing it stems from being more socially liked
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/22 12:49 PM
1

asexual people are a very very small % of the population. People want sex, and its very necessary for a fulfilling social life for almost everyone on this earth and you know it.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/22 11:09 PM
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comparing sex to cigarettes is fuckin sad on your end. And as a whole, we’ve actually depedestalized relationships and sex before. People are marrying later and refraining from sex longer. Teen pregnancies and marriages are lower as well. Again, people want sex. Its part of a normal social life. If you’ve heard of Elliot Rogers, you should be aware of the dangers of pedestalizing sex. If you’re not aware, it’s probably a good idea to research his victims and humanize them a little bit. If you ar…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/22 11:07 PM
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not cheaper no, because youd have to make sure everyones tests are done properly.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/22 10:36 PM
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people want it. You can't de pedestal anything. It wont work. fuck this self love shit. People want social acceptance, and part of that is sexually. and ive fuckin heard of eliot rodger wtf. Are you seriously thinking people on reddit dont know these people by now?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/22 10:35 PM
2

its a necessary part of one.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/22 10:34 PM
2

because its easier to keep people on a similar learning curriculum so there is some level of consistency when they reach adulthood
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/22 07:04 PM
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the primary purpose of school is to teach young people basics. Just because "we arent very good at it" (which isnt even true as some schools do very well means nothing.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/22 06:18 PM
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Schooling is first and foremost, a daycare for children during their most rambunctious years. Its also to socialize boys and girls in the formative years. If it was for education, we aren't very good at it. no. That is not the primary reason for school.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/22 05:53 PM
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thats not the primary goal of school at all. If it was they would make sure people are dating and trying hard to set people up there, which they arent.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/22 05:32 PM
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people want sex, stop telling them they "secretly dont want it, find other stuff brah". This whole depedestalizing sex aspect of the left needs to stop. I'm not entitled to sex, that socialist leftist is not entitled to publically funded daycare. Humans are social beings and this stoic behavior isn’t healthy. a healthy social human is healthy not just platonically, but sexually too.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/22 05:05 PM
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People manufacture so much bullshit in relationships. They aren't that hard, just understand that its not always about you.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/22 04:27 PM
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Capitalism is the solution for these men. If nobody owes me a relationship, then nobody owes you some progressive publicly funded healthcare bullshit.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/22 04:25 PM
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you better be a libertarian then, and not some libertarian socialist bullshit.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/22 04:23 PM
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not to mention all the women who are leftists and claim "you arent for publicly funding child care, health care, etc? You are evil!", the answer is....you aren't entitled to anything. The phrase "nobody owes you anything" crap is just that. Feminism promises that its for everyone, and it isnt.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/22 04:22 PM
1

Yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/22 06:23 PM
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Almost all of it, yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/22 03:40 PM
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People still want reasonable adult experiences, and that means they have to do things masculine (males) to attract women. Women have to do things feminine to attract men. The need to not die alone (which drives most human behavior) creates masculinity and femininity. If men can get pussy living in a box and women can get dick they desire burping and farting and being obese, then yes your shit would hold value. Telling people to just "do and be whatever you want!" is such garbage tier advice that…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/22 02:24 PM
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They exist, get over it
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/22 12:55 PM
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1) There are more men than women in the USA when you remove senior citizens from the equation. The only reason why 51% of the USA is female because of the over 60ish crowd, and while historically that demographic of people is smaller (due to deaths), boomers are very abundant. Hell the boomer population didnt peak in the USA until the 90s (you would think it would be the 60s when the baby boom ended), mostly because of immigration. We are an old folks home. 2) A LOT more women are dating women. …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/22 02:56 PM
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better than almost everywhere else yes, especially the 18 to 35 male crowd. Not sure how many 20 something males can afford NYC LOLOL
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/22 11:15 PM
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NYC is where women complain, because there are so many girls who move there for the sex and the city life + the only men there were there before rent skyrocketed the past 15/20 years or gay males. What straight women complain about in NYC is basically what straight males have to deal with everywhere else in the USA: the demographics are not in your favor.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/22 07:59 PM
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that number is going down. How old are you? Most early 20 something males have no dates
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/22 03:07 PM
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People forget how many women are lesbians now, especially amongst the under 35/40 crowd. On my floor alone there are 3 lesbian couples. Were this many women "in the closet and afraid to come out" all along? Like I dont get it
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/22 04:20 PM
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public is more tolerant towards women's issues because we want to fuck them more than they want to fuck us. Hell even women want to fuck other women now, way too many lesbian couples these days for men to even have girlfriends
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/22 05:47 PM
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that, but its other things 1) Lots of bi and lesbian women now 2) There are more men aged 18 to like 60 in this country, women are only 51% of the US population due to senior citizens being overwhelmingly female
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/22 02:32 PM
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No policy will fix that. What will fix that is only is women can still sexually respect men they "pass by" in the business world
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/22 09:32 PM
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The apps were always short on women
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/22 09:28 PM
1

nothing is "socially constructed" everything is a product of neurological impulses, which is biological
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/22 02:20 PM
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Men and women not getting along much is definitely a massive cause. The biggest? Maybe but most likely not. The only? Obviously not. But its a big issue yes
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/22 03:34 PM
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Elanor Roosevelt was pretty fuckin ugly but I still think when she was the only chick on those UN security councils and shit in the late 40s she was pretty fucking badass
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/22 05:51 PM
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sounds good, let me know when you plan on it
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/22 10:12 PM
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I think you should offer them no strings attached sex and see what happens
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/22 01:25 PM
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Make it clear next time. Also what lbs are you
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/22 03:23 AM
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Never said they aren't bi. Bi can still prefer one gender over the other
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/22 06:56 PM
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most dont. Most still prefer women
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/22 05:54 PM
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Did you state that the sex was coming with the food? Also how much do you weigh? Obese women I'll admit are sexualized like men....not much/if at all
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/22 01:48 PM
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again, offer them sex straight up. Btw usually men don't offer the female friends sex, maybe somebody they barely know. Usually its the woman who has to offer a male friend sex. Also if they are taken, thats a different story
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/22 12:49 PM
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Youre a woman, you have to offer it first since men don't want to be seen as predatory
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/22 11:39 AM
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There is. Your a woman, you can get sex way easier
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/22 10:59 PM
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women need more healthcare? Old men's healthcare might be taken care of, but younger mens' sure isnt.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/22 06:00 PM
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planned parenthood
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/22 05:02 PM
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Preferential treatment in hiring, education system is for girls strengths now, public spending goes to old people and women, etc. Younger males are the most screwed over people
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/22 04:23 PM
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No, because they get preferential treatment at times. Companies want women badly right now and younger males are getting screwed over
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/22 04:15 PM
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The problem is feminism isn't a 1 stop shop to all the worlds problems and many people on the left (men and women) think that it is
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/22 03:54 PM
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they do
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/22 01:48 PM
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They dont want sex from me.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/22 01:14 PM
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He probably still wants a relationship though and says "i like my sovereignty" as a cope. As evidenced by he still dated till he let himself go.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/22 01:09 PM
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thats a bit of a stretch demand, and demand somewhat creates the hard cap, so there is a hard cap.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/22 01:08 PM
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not really. They might appear to be happy to the outside world because of personal pride, but most are lonely as fuck. Hell, this is kind of explained by how so many MGTOW dumbasses never shut up about women. They still want one and are coping. Everybody copes.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/22 01:00 PM
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Teach boys that there are worthy dreams, goals and aspirations to be had outside of getting laid and they'll be happier overall. This is correct, but the issue I see is it somewhat contradicts feminism. Feminism wants 50/50 ratios everywhere these days, and some men are going to have to sideline their dreams some women can achieve theirs. We can't all be business owners, doctors, CEOs, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/22 12:59 PM
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Its quite simple. Younger males (millennial and gen z) are way too overly blamed for "patriarchy" and "evil capitalism". They are bitter. And rightfully so. Their actions are not justified, but honestly the shittiest demographic throughout human history has always been younger males. They have to wait to get dates (women tend to pursue/be pursued by older men). Hell with the increasing % of women who identify as bisexual and lesbian (while male %s are staying the same for decades), there aren't …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/22 12:54 PM
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they would look at me and say either no sweetie or euu i never viewed you like that. Women dont really get sexualized. And your friends probably didnt pick up on the fact that you were also offering sex if you were.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/22 12:46 PM
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They would have sex with you if you offered no strings attached
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/22 10:07 AM
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that they arent into me, because they arent.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/22 07:53 PM
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not safe to assume that at all
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/22 07:16 PM
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they might if u just flat out say sex
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/22 06:01 PM
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Ask them just for sex for one night. Have they rejected you on that? If so, is because they werent single?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/22 05:25 PM
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try it
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/22 02:40 PM
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but they would at least have sex with you, even if they werent super willing to date you. Again, you are a woman, you have been sexualized way more than me.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/22 01:51 PM
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It says you don't find them sexually attractive, something which most men do not get as much as you think. I dont like being called bro by my female friends. I know they dont wish "ill" on me. But I have found them attractive and they not me. It does hurt. And not being seen as a sexual being is dehumanizing
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/22 02:21 AM
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I'm not
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/22 09:05 PM
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I doubt you called them bro and mate until after you started dating. When a woman calls a man bro and theyve already had dates and/or sex, its WAY different than when you get called bro without those things.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/22 07:57 PM
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i speak to plenty of men. We have all said being claled bro by women is being desexualized in a less direct way (so we dont ask you out). Yes. Women WANT their male friends to not view them sexually
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/22 07:44 PM
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They are. Men are constantly wanting to be viewed sexually, and we fail most times.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/22 07:32 PM
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not to the extent men do. We are constantly thinking about women. Women i think want to be left alone tbh.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/22 07:15 PM
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because men want dates/romance/sex and are afraid to ask
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/22 01:14 PM
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because when a woman calls you bro its quite frequently done as a way to subtly say "i dont view you sexually"
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/22 08:07 PM
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No. The point is they still view you sexually. They would probably still have sex with you. When a woman calls me bro I know what it means
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/22 06:47 PM
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women get more sexual attention.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/22 04:10 PM
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Because men hide their feelings for their female friends way more. It's not a good comparison on your end
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/22 01:11 PM
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Doubt it
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/22 10:57 PM
1

Do you think they don't view you sexually at all?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/22 08:09 PM
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Do guys just say to you "what's up sis"? Because when the girl calls you bro we know what's happening
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/22 07:57 PM
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Trust me, it's ALL the time for me. You probably have had boyfriends and dates
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/22 05:13 PM
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If u don't get it at all, ya
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/22 04:06 AM
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youre a woman, you rarely get desexualized. You view it that way, but its really kinda dehumanizing to never be viewed sexually.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/22 11:46 PM
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"hey what's up bro" I get it you don't view me sexually
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/22 09:04 PM
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For the most part it is. https://worldpopulationreview.com/us-cities/el-paso-tx-population Amongst the ranges of people we talk about here (20 and 30 something) el paso has more men than women You are the wrong one
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/22 04:47 PM
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The only reason why there are more women than men is because of senior citizens. Amongst the 18 to 40 range men outnumber women in almost every major city
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/22 12:10 PM
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This. It's actually kinda sad because the stuff I used to see on to Canada with Steve Paikin was generally really good. Then came trans mania and I think he just went to shit
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/22 11:21 PM
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can deadlift 585 lbs, 33 year old virgin. Have a little bit of a beer gut, but still
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/22 03:58 AM
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33 year old virgin. Sadly the only chance I got was a friend when I was 29 she was 19. She was a mutual friend though and my buddies said shes too young. I dont have the courage to say how socially stunted i am and she honestly would probably be a good fit lol
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/22 06:13 PM
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i know way more women who slutshame tbh
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/22 03:16 PM
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hes also known for not being able to get her wet a good chunk of time
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/22 03:30 AM
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https://www.qualtrics.com/experience-management/research/determine-sample-size/
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/22 08:14 PM
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Take a statistics class. It's a large enough sample
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/22 08:04 PM
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No pictures. Also any promotion of your Instagram or only fans causes you to get banned
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/22 07:57 PM
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They don't, but the number is growing
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/22 05:43 PM
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exactly. Most bi women stay with men because they can get them. Women just dont fuck enough for any of this shit to work
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/22 03:39 PM
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nah its true. Women are way more questioning and queer and what not than men. Most bi men are barely bi, considering that they always say "you cant get women if you tell them that you are bi", meaning they still prefer women.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/22 02:55 PM
1

men and women oppress each other. It is because they are oppressed under capitalism and all the failing institutions that accompany it. I'm so sick and tired of the "its capitalism's fault" shit. News flash, humans are greedy. Capitalism needs to be kept in check obviously, but humans capitalize on their talents, we always have. The real issue is men desire women more than women desire men. That is all.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/22 08:06 PM
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because women have options. They still get approached when in a relationship, so they have things lined up.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/22 07:35 PM
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the fact that your genetics alone make you valuable. Want a career? We're supposed to fast track you in the name of gender equality. Bored/Flamed out of the career world? Social programs are supposed to exist for you and you aren't viewed as a child by society (like unemployed men are).
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/22 06:22 PM
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Most people who dish out advice on being 'happy with yourself' have never truly been alone for any prolonged time. This is very true. I dont know how many people I know who say shit like "you have to love yourself first" need to be validated by others more than anything
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/22 03:56 PM
1

2
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/22 02:40 PM
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Ya its true that there can be too much sex. But 5 or so times a week is plenty doable
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/22 06:23 PM
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Men: Stay employed and make more money than her Have an exciting social life Women: Don't get fat Fuck your boyfriend/husband more. Whatever you think is enough is almost always not as much as he wants
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/22 06:16 PM
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Nothing is "socially constructed". We don't have free will. Everything is a product of impulses to and from our brains.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/22 01:56 PM
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I am a man 1) I wish women were more interested in men as a whole, which I would benefit somewhat from as well ill admit (in theory). But I do see my male friends way more interested in women than my women friends interested in men. 2) Men do not get sexualized on a regular basis much at all. So I'm sorry if we pursue too hard/fast when we do get flirted with 3) I do think men should be more aware of issues women go through especially in the working world.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/22 02:34 PM
1

Social media jealousy and paradox of choice seems to be the buggest issues
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/22 07:35 AM
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30% of women under 30 identify as LGBT now, so I think you need to expand what you deem attractive
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/22 03:32 PM
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men fight each other to be at the top to have the best chance to attract a woman. In order to end the patriarchy, the number one thing that must change is women need to date/marry/fuck men younger, less experienced, less educated, etc than them
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/22 07:23 PM
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women want men who are successful -> men go out and get power -> men with power have it on the surface. But lets be real, women kinda have the real power in the sense that my sister can get a boyfriend even when shes unemployed. I can't get a girlfriend even when I am
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/22 11:54 PM
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Women want successful men so patriarchies form
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/22 10:51 PM
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It explains the "evil patriarchy" 100% and then feminism needs to shut the fuck up
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/22 09:39 PM
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It is a societal issue. People not having a sexuality effectively is not a reasonable adult experience
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/22 09:29 PM
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the WaW effect is just male simping. Most people do it in hopes 1 woman fucks him. Women obviously do it because we all have egos
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/22 02:02 AM
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Nah almost all women are bi now. Womens sexuality is just more in demand by everyone. Most women i know dont find many men attractive tbh
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/22 02:18 PM
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Gender equality causes the collapse. Women hate the men they are equal with and then the men become bitter
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/22 07:36 PM
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Been sayong this for years. Liberal women and conservative men are the vast majority of the world's problems
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/22 10:24 PM
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A .5 to 1% difference at each one of those age brackets adds up
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/22 12:21 AM
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The gender ratio is a sausage fest. The only reason why women are 51% of the population is because of senior citizens. Remove that and every major metro area is majority male except NYC oddly enough
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/22 11:49 PM
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This is everywhere now in the livestreaming era. Sad but true oh well
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/22 11:46 PM
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Online dating as we know it is due to smart phone
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/22 06:28 PM
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Nah. Everyone straw mans now
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/22 03:13 AM
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The same thing is done with feminists. "Thats not real feminism"
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/22 08:32 PM
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women can gender bend and still be accepted sexually by men a bit (women wear jeans for example, which was male for long periods of time). Now women have to have a feminine style within the gender bending a bit, but they can. Men im not so sure. It means women still want to fuck them if they do, and women's sexually seems to not coexist with that.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/22 09:41 PM
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romance is a need, id argue the vast majority of our political problems these days are because there are a bunch of lonely (primarily) men
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/22 09:39 PM
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more interested in men
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/22 09:38 PM
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Im not pushy at all, glad you arent a hypocrite
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/22 08:36 AM
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No but the phrase "nobody owes you anything" is basically what you are saying, and its basically code for "i dont care about your problems"
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/22 08:28 AM
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and women arent entitled to planned parenthood, first crack at good jobs in the name of "gender equality" and more female CEOs.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/22 04:56 AM
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women are barely into men anymore. Most women do not deem very many men attractive. This is the problem. Patriarchies exist because men want to be desired by women, so we go out into the world and try to become relevant.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/22 10:43 PM
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we are nothing like bonobos. They fuck all day and everyone. Modern women are nothing of the sort.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/22 06:56 PM
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Its publically funding sexuality. Yes its owing people consequences of sex, so you are being a hypocrite here
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/22 08:16 AM
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Then defund planned parenthood since thats publically funding sexuality
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/22 03:10 AM
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women have been propped up in the quest of 50/50 ratios everywhere, that they have become the more successful gender. This has caused a lot of women to realize that they are sexually fluid, aka powersexual. Most women would rather be with the gender of their non preferred (hetero women would choose a woman, lesbian women would chose a man) if that person shows interest in them and has an exciting lifestyle. Girls just wanna have fun, and in the social media world, they are the party.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/22 07:24 PM
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Maybe so, but i still think its we all kinda prefer the female body/form/etc. Hell i kinda even think hetero women do
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/22 10:14 PM
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So are the bi men moreso bi but lean hetero? If they dont want to lose their wives they clear ly value them a lot.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/22 09:02 PM
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Eh maybe. I still think women are the ones who are a bit more heteroflexible or pan or whatever. Women seem to bebkinda sexually fluid in general while men i think were just lonely and losers lol
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/22 08:52 PM
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Proof that they are just kinsey 1 and 2s? Also it still nesses up the dating pool if there arent even enough women due to this. Ya you are prob right that most end up with dudes, but just enough might end up with girls leading to the dating game being a bit short supply of women
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/22 05:40 PM
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Not 30%
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/22 02:03 AM
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Only about 3-5% of the population identifies as LGB and that includes the B. amongst younger people though the number is a lot higher. In fact i believe the current studies are saying about 30% of girls under 30 identify as bisexual, and another 5% identify as lesbian
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/22 10:32 PM
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your sex drive is clearly lower than mens, which is what we mean by "low". And it can mean "regular" sexual sure, but women who meet a man who checks off everything (at that particular moment for her at least) can become what people would call hyper sexual yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/22 04:51 PM
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women have lower sex drives overall. Thats why. Most women though if they meet a man that checks off all their checkboxes can become hyper sexual (even moreso than men). Its just that guy is few and far between because it requires a lot of top percentiles in various things.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/22 03:01 PM
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teaching them that their problems are "individual ones", but women not being 50% of CEOs or presidents (etc) is a societal problem is hypocritical as hell. Maybe men are the majority of the world leaders because we already teach men their problems are individual problems, and those men who rise to the top are the select few who are a combination of lucky, cutthroat, and/or insane enough to rise to the top. Relationships and the economy are FAR from mutually exclusive. They are very much over lap…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/22 09:09 PM
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the "they are choosing to do this" argument is breaking day by day. No, women aren't interested is the problem. Men deem a lot more women attractive than women deem men. Men are watching more porn and what not because its available and want a release. But they are still lonely as fuck and would 100% rather have actual sex. It takes two to tango. There is a man out there for every woman, but there is not a woman out there for every man.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/22 09:06 PM
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the vast majority of men work in the hopes of attracting at least 1 woman. Its not "done for themselves". Thats just insecure lying people who have to announce to the world how independent or whatever they are...because they arent. People are lonely, and the number one fear people have is dying alone. Very few things are honestly done "for themselves"
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/22 09:03 PM
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Its just an example of female ego. Men and women both have egos obviously, womens ego of needing to feel important is an example lf this.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/21 01:51 AM
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33 loser incel virgin here (male). I'm FUCKED (but not actually) oh well. It was a good run.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/21 04:40 AM
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seeing somebody sexually is not "treating them unequally". Cmon are you like under 20 years old or something?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/21 01:35 AM
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You come across as very immature
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/21 03:46 AM
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Its very very very difficult to find a romantic partner when you dont conform to gender roles, as sexuality seems to be the only hiccup too getting rid of them. If you find a man/woman who doesnt mind breaking the norm but still respects you sexually, then go for it and hopefully it works out
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/21 06:28 PM
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Not to mention if life isnt fair, feminists need to shut up about wanting government programs like planned parenthood. Life isnt fair
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/21 02:56 AM
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its always been that way. More women have reproduced in the world then men...by a lot
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/21 03:36 PM
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The need to feel manly. And also perhaps these marriages the sex lives are shittier so they cheat to get something somewhere
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/21 07:50 AM
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It is. People spend all their time there. Yes its fake as hell. But being fake is what everybody does now.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/21 09:52 PM
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Social media is the new irl sadly
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/21 06:59 PM
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Most feminists will disagree with you.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/21 05:26 PM
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Doesn't mean a significant portion of women won't pick their independence over child rearing. Again, this is irrelevent to the argument. The point is that men HAVE to go into the work force, women dont. This creates uneven gender ratios everywhere which feminists never stop bitching about. Other wise women literally need to open their legs (lets get crass here) for men who are under/unemployed. Whether its for short term dating, long term, casual hook ups, whatever. That has nothing to do with f…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/21 06:39 AM
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Its not they give it up, its just they have the option. And i know plenty of feminists who think they should be given the job first and then learn on the fly because its important for equality
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/21 03:06 AM
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women can be stay at home wives and still be attractive to a lot of men. And again, there are only a finite amount of good jobs at any given moment, and if you are still telling all men to "go out there and get them", its going to leave women out. And yes, feminists goals in the modern age are 50/50 ratios everywhere (or women in front).
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/21 08:39 PM
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if all men do so, it will create uneven gender ratios. That is anti feminist by definition. There are only a finite amount of "good jobs" at any given moment.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/21 07:35 PM
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Irrelevant. If all men are forced down this path, and women dont have as of a need to do so, it will make even the white collar world be not diverse enough for feminists
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/21 06:39 PM
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the problem is if men pursue socioeconomic progression it leads to males dominating everything and feminism says women need a seat at the table (and honestly should sometimes be just given it in the name of 50/50 ratios everywhere). Unambitious male (stay at home male) has to be as desirable to women as men find unambitious woman (stay at home woman) is to men. I make pretty good money. I would date a girl working at starbucks (probably a third of what I make). The other way around doesnt happen…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/21 09:00 PM
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Right there. There is nothing i hate more than people in relationships who then say things like "enjoy the freedom of being single"....uh dude you didnt.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/21 01:43 PM
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The answer is yes. We have yet to really see how an economy works with an aged population. Economies need to focus on youth, as parents are willing to spend on their kids' lives. And to bring up the eventual "immigration will save us". Uh...this problem is world wide for the most part. Who are you going to immigrate?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/21 04:15 PM
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Where are the immigrants coming from....the low birthrate is more than just a USA problem. The low birth rates around the world is a problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/21 03:37 PM
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Introverted != shy
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/21 10:32 PM
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not anymore tbh
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/21 11:01 PM
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Men chase money linger than women, thats all.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/21 02:51 PM
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It happens more often tk men though because most men are completely undesirable to most women
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/21 02:47 PM

its is for better or for worse. Both feminism and incels have changed our economy in actions and policy wise. Hell I'm a firm believer this rise in pokemon card collecting seeing an insane skyrocket in prices, video game collecting, bitcoin mania, etc, is all rooting in incel (or incel adjacent) men in their 20s and 30s.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/21 07:42 PM

i would add the rise in bisexual and lesbian women to that. I dont think there is a 1:1 mapping anymore of straight men to straight women, especially under 40 or so years old
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/21 07:35 PM
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there is actually more men than women in this country 18 to 50 years old. The only reason why there is more women than men is because of senior citizens.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/21 02:17 PM
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Dont pay for online 'consultants' for anything ever
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/21 07:40 PM
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feminist societies dont breed, they require other parts of a country/world to import people to keep their economy propped up. Too much feminism is a problem, and in many aspects of our world we've reached that point.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/21 05:10 PM
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Those are all diminishing tbh
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/21 11:34 PM
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yes they are. Its where everyone spends their time these days. Even before covid has this been the norm
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/21 06:39 PM
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i wouldnt say these days, id say the past 5ish years
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/21 02:24 PM
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the number one thing is the internet getting into our pockets. It ruined society
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/21 04:47 AM
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Jealousy obviously.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/21 01:22 AM
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Cute, in pretty good shape, doesnt inmediate kick you to the curb if you lose your job, down for sex a few times a week at least.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/21 06:38 AM
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Women are going bi and asexual
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/21 06:36 AM
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Younger women are outearning men these days fwiw
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/21 01:00 PM
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The internet has become real life. People who u think dont hate men or women are the ones saying this online. People are definitely NOT dating more due to old. Its making men and women hate each other
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/21 03:58 PM
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Social media is basically the tower of babel in secular form. Social media has made men and women hate each other. Fewer people go outside, and this was before covid. People are not dating as much, fewer people have fulfilling sex lives. It all revolves around internet addiction. You are not noticing reality
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/21 12:12 PM
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We were more monogamous 20 years ago. The peak of society was post ww2 to mid 00s when social media ruined everything
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/21 05:14 AM
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Not wrong at all. Monogamy is way more practiced now than 1k years ago. Were losing our grasp on monogamy tho and things are starting to decline. I promise you charlemagne and genkis khan fucked more women than drake
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/21 01:57 AM
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Modernized by switching to monogamy
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/21 02:56 PM
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And those societies got destroyed
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/21 03:22 AM
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the only way to keep society functioning is monogamy
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/21 07:32 PM
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College is worse. Women 18 have access to older men. Most still date only a few years older, but enough girls date old enough that it skews the pool. This is especially bad in an aging population where there is an inverted population pyramid
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/21 05:13 PM
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my parents are in their 70s. When they were in their 20s/30s, men didnt have to deal with social media. That alone has turned women into the alphas tbh
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/21 01:57 PM
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number of sexual partners might be closer in number than we think, but the attractiveness can be different
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/21 05:31 PM
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You cant. People want relationships. No amount of drugs, "conversations", or anything else will fix this. Women dont deem enough mennattractive to end the 'patriarchy'.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/21 02:01 PM
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nah, they lost sexual interest in me. I originally wasnt into them but felt it over a few months of knowing them
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/21 11:23 PM
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i know a few who said to me they were interested in me at first but it later left as i became more of a friend to them. I dont know if thats the sign of an immature person (perhaps something that happens to women more than men), but i think maybe i have that personality of mysterious when you first meet me, but then as i open up i become less attractive idk. Im a fuckin loser tbh
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/21 11:00 PM
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For me it was that girls I were friends and then maybe developed an attraction had already desexualized me
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/21 07:44 PM
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whats the solution? Get these men women who like them? How do you get a woman to like you?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/21 07:04 PM
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men want to be attractive to women, and have to do more things to do so. This causes men to create, build, have "evil male aggression", etc. Women don't have to work as hard to be attractive (other than physical appearance) because us men are more attracted to the body.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/21 03:10 PM

The problem is all of this explains the patriarchy
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/21 06:39 AM
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nope.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/21 05:22 PM
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Not enough. And most would rather be single than be with inferior men
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/21 04:58 PM
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there arent enough women, and more women than ever are going bi and lesbian, so thats the problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/21 04:25 PM
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its significant when its anywhere between a few thousand and 100,000 in every major state from 18 to 55ish.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/21 04:05 PM
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do it yourself, you have been wrong about everything demographics https://worldpopulationreview.com/states look at the age breakdown
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/21 02:48 PM
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few thousand each city
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/21 02:04 AM
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it is though, every major city in the usa has more men than women aged 18 to 55, and more women are now dating each other. Men are fucked
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/21 09:39 PM
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they do though! Younger women are dating each other. Men are being left out. Combined with there are more men aged 18 to 55 in most countries makes this even worse!
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/21 08:45 PM
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the best part is they do!
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/21 08:33 PM
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Ive linked more links than you at this point. Add it all up.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/21 08:31 PM
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So, there's more gays than lesbians, and we already know that 80 of bi people end up in straight relationships. So how does that mean that women are overwhelmingly fucking other women and men are "left out" because there arent enough women of that age. There are more men aged 18 to 55 than women. Women are only 51% of the population due to senior citizens. Also the 80% of bi people end up in straight relationships is 5 year old data. Things are changing, men are being left behind. You are just s…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/21 08:27 PM
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Lol is source the only word you know? Heres another one because you are so unwilling to accept the truth https://news.gallup.com/poll/329708/lgbt-identification-rises-latest-estimate.aspx Women are more likely than men to identify as LGBT (6.4% vs. 4.9%, respectively). And the gen Z section is even crazier. 11.5% Bi, 2.1% Gay, 1.4% Lesbian. So a slight increase in gay over lesbian does not make up for the massive amount of bisexual women who will pair up. Also the article you linked me about bis…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/21 08:20 PM
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ive linked you sources, and you read my initial post incorrectly The demographic issues is there are more biseuxal women and lesbian women under 35 years old than bisexual and gay men. If women pair up together, more men will have no options. Humans arent infinite.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/21 08:14 PM
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Still isnt good enough with the demographic issues. Also the trends say everything im saying.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/21 06:38 PM
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under 35 years old..... the 6% is including older people. when you look at girls under 35 years old or so, its much higher than 6%
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/21 03:18 PM
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https://www.google.com/amp/s/qz.com/1601527/the-rise-of-bisexuals-in-america-is-driven-by-women/amp/ Heres one on bisexual women. And two bi women or a bi woman and a lesbian pairing up takes women off the market.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/21 03:00 PM
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Actually they are. Lesbianism is skyrocketing among under 35ish
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/21 06:48 AM
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its not 50/50. The only reason why women are 51% of the USA is because of senior citizens. Women don't date younger men as well, which means if a 22 year old girl is dating a 32 year old guy, it can skew things in other ways.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/21 07:26 PM
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still doesnt take away from the fact that single payer is a socialist policy
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/21 04:12 AM
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Sex is definitely a commodity. Hell its literally considered the worlds oldest profession.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/21 10:22 PM
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"If the government was also the sole provider of healthcare" That is what single payer is. Well the govt isnt the sole provider of healthCARE, but the govt is the sole provider of health INSURANCE. Those are two things that people think are the same There is no private health insurance market in countries with single payer outside of cosmetic and other "non essential" type things (which is arbitrary ill admit). Single payer is definitely a socialist policy
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/21 10:07 PM
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Yes it has. Things like single payer health care (which i support btw) is a socialist policy. This new internet leftist debate bro vaush type shit of saying blatently obtuse things like "its just worker owned businesses yo" is being naive and ignoring the evolution of ideology
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/21 03:47 PM
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Thats a simplistic answer. Socialism on the surface means owned by the workers but its evolved in meaning over the past 100ish years now
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/21 10:20 PM
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This is what ive been saying for years now. Conservative men and liberal women are narcissistic pieces of shit and hypocrites
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/21 10:17 PM
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All these problems would go away if women had more sexual interest in men. Because as of right now the problem is: There are only a finite amount of "good jobs" to go around and women want more of them. The govt grants this under phrases like "equality is for everyone". But then women with good jobs dont date men who nake less than them (among other things like date younger men, shorter, etc) and then society becomes miserable because people want romantic relationships
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/21 02:00 PM
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Another of the "everyones getting the OK Cupid study wrong!" posts. These are so boring. The fact is men want women more than women want men. Thats all
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/21 02:29 PM
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Antidepressants and birth control kill sex drives, and women use those two things WAY more than men. Women already have less sex drive than men anyway. The fact is that patriarchy can never go away until women desire men more.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/21 03:47 PM
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he gets away with a lot more than if a white dude says it. Hell lots of white dudes get kicked off twitter for saying the stuff he says
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/21 05:01 AM
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an_alt. this is an alt account from my norm
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/21 05:00 AM
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he says the exact same shit all the white dudes in the "manosphere" say. Its just its more "ok" because black men have issues according to the left. But white men dont.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/21 10:53 PM
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Because we turned it into a transactional based system. Combined with the lack of interested women we got problens
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/21 02:25 PM
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The problem is if men do all the things in the past when "men were men" we have a patriarchy which the left believes is evil. Most women are leftists so....
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/21 02:24 PM
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Lol rogue scholar...
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/21 08:45 PM
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This. Its kinda sad that people think helping men get dates/romance/sex is teaching them to rape
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/21 08:42 PM
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bi is still an issue. Two bi women or a bi woman and a lesbian means 1 to 2 less women off the market that might be willing to also be with a man. It depends on what you mean by remove women's rights. I don't think it should be a right that women get "first crack" at good jobs for gender equality reasons or something, which some of the discussion is becoming. I don't think women deem enough men attractive to end the patriarchy is what I'm really saying though. And any attempts to use legislation…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/21 05:01 PM
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Its really not a horse of a different collar. The issue is women are much more selective and "empowering" women in the feminist stance causes them to be more selective, not less. Men always have to be better than women to keep society functioning it seems. Ill show you articles ive bookmarked tonightish, i havent been near my pc for a while. Im telling you, the amount of bi/les women under 35ish is so large right now. Theres legit not enough women interested to NOT have an incel issue
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/21 12:58 PM
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I appreciate the compassion for the lonely hetero male loser like me, but i doubt youre right on this one
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/21 09:10 PM
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Its sadly true. Look up the demographics
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/21 06:29 PM
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Are you a woman? If so you are part of the problem being lgbt. There are not enough hetero women in almost every country now. Men are seriously done
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/21 02:55 PM
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So many lesbian women now
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/21 07:22 AM
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White women = standard of beauty worldwide these days due to the internet. White women are objectified by everyone, not just "those evil cis het white males". Hell im seeing a lot more lesbian grooming of women who are in a bit of a bad mental state these days. Everyone is lonely, and this was a problem well before covid
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/21 07:32 PM
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depends on the context. If they just say "ya hes better looking". But phrases like "ridiculously attractive"? Ya id say the same thing
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/21 03:57 AM
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Hint: you 2 are not straight
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/21 05:25 PM
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i want social media to be gone naturally. The amount of time/fun moments lost from 2007ish to the present due to smartphone culture starting around then is insane.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/21 02:40 PM
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instagram and twitter are also dating apps at this point
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/21 05:43 PM
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the internet in our pockets changed everything. Women are the alphas now.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/21 02:57 PM
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i hope im wrong and youre right, but i dont see it.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/21 02:52 AM
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too many women are bi/lesbian now. Women just aren't interested in men anymore.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/21 11:22 PM
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i agree with that timeframe. I think the main problems are: a lot of countries like the USA only seem to portray gay/lesbian couples on tv as pure and good. The hetero couples are all manipulative or the woman is "questioning" Social media has made women all minor celebrities. Most women I know now don't even like showcasing their relationships on social media because they know they lose followers. Social media is making loneliness grow exponentially.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/21 11:20 PM
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If you are successful now you are a patriarical bastard. So men kinda are in a lose/lose.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/21 05:11 PM
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Opportunity amounts matter though.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/21 05:29 PM
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culture doesnt matter. All cultures are the same. Culture is a coping mechanism for men to try and appear dominant to attract women. Women are less attracted to men than men are to women, thats across every culture.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/21 02:46 PM
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men don't have the luxury that women do in this regard
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/21 02:45 PM
1

Thats actually changing. Lotta bi and lesbian women amongst younger half of millennials and all of gen z
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/21 04:03 PM
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As a dude who never gets romance and or sex, i dont have time to seek out women for just platonic. Ive done that already, im lonely
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/21 06:35 PM
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Op is talking about the men who cant get dates and wants them. Thats what the topic is about. Your posts are just trying to change the subject Women have innate value, men dont seem to. Otherwise, women would be interested in them. Thats why we say low value. Im one of them
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/21 05:33 PM
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When we say low value, were saying men who dont make much money, arent particularly attractive, etc. I just cant stand when people say things like "well maybe they dont want to be in relationships". Its like, we know there are some, but there are plenty who do and your comments just are used to avoid the conversation. We arent talking about the men who dont care. Do you really think all men who aren't in relationships are happy? Thats absurd.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/21 05:26 AM
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you are adding a factor that this topic is NOT discussing. Stop assuming that men who can't get relationships are all voluntarily doing that. Again, this topic is looking at the subset of men who ARE miserable because they aren't in relationships. You are talking in circles. Look, we are talking about the men who cant get relationships but want them. The ones who don't want them and don't care we are NOT talking about. You are trying to change the subject to avoid the difficult conversation.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/21 03:19 PM
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Not to mention the economy has been getting better for women the past 20 years. Childless women outearn childless men among 20 and 30 somethings since like 9/11 era
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/21 02:06 PM
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oh come on. We were talking about men who wanted relationships. stop this crap. Its implied with the entire opening post
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/21 07:20 AM
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because its part of the question. You are the one assuming they dont want relationships. The men who dont want them is NOT what we are discussing.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/21 05:57 AM
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publicly funded brothels might be needed. Maybe if we are trying to add all these welfare programs, some for low status men should be available too.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/21 05:24 AM
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its not just the economy. The economy has always been shit for 20 somethings, only now are we seeing massive spikes in males not getting dates and relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/21 05:19 AM
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we are working under the assumption that these guys want relationships. They do. You are adding an extra piece to the equation that we are not talking about. The ones who dont want relationships are doing just that. We are talking about the low status men who do.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/21 05:17 AM
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Like people have already said, kpop celebrities may look more feminine, but are still masculine where it matters....the social life and money.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/21 01:56 PM
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not a fan of their stances on women tbh.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/21 07:22 AM
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Burden of proof is on you.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/21 04:44 AM
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again, nope. Please seek help
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/21 01:38 AM
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Ya. Nobody. My life sucks
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/21 01:21 AM
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I mean i can write a whole essay on what its like to never have any dates, sex, etc but i think you just like typing out a bunch of stuff as a form of self therapy. This notion that weve never liked you is absurd. Grow up I think you need serious help. I think you project shit a lot as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/21 01:40 PM
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whats funny is you get different responses depending on the context of the conversation. 1) depressed man complaining about the rising bi and lesbian numbers. "Oh thats just for show" 2) dudebro whose probably more conservative or a trump fan or some shit says "women just do that for attention", they respond with "omg how dare you say they do that stuff for MEN. Women are independent!!!" its like, which is it?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/21 05:56 AM
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i would kill to get a woman to like me and make sure she had an orgasm, or at least try my damnedest.. This notion that men don't care about women and their pleasure is stupid that a lot of women tell themselves to justify their bad relationships "all men are this way!" You seem hurt about something yourself. I know I'm a loser who can't dates/romance/sex. You just arent attracted to men who would actually like you. I think a lot of women are that way. Also you seem to be full lesbian and not bi…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/21 05:52 AM
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Amongst the under 35 crowd....there is a massive increase in incels. Hell the "im bi" thing that all younger women seem to claim these days alone causes men to be incels if more women are dating each other. You look at stats that include 40 or 50 somethings
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/21 05:29 PM
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Women can date being a broke college student. Men cant. Men want sex asap
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/21 01:46 AM
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Theres a fair bit more men in most countries than women. Women are only 51% of the usa or whatever because of senior citizens, and nobody gives a fuck about them when it comes to dating topics
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/21 01:29 AM
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ya ive seen u here plenty of times. Its weird how similar feminist women and alt right (which is predominantly male) act
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/21 02:41 PM
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The gap exists because the thing women pleasure on men is right in front of your face, the thing men pleasure on women is a bit more tucked away. Us dudes need to probably ask and feel around to make sure we are even stimulating the right place, but that kills the mood in most people's eyes so it creates a gap.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/21 02:38 PM
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Eh, it rarely is used that way. It takes a lot longer to fact check than to make shit up as well
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/21 10:10 PM
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Eh, social media definitely did more than give them a voice. It has caused people to see more content which caused to dig further into the ground their already dumb beliefs. The alt right is very similar in this regard as well
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/21 04:39 PM
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Men, myself included, didnt get to have much fun in our 20s. My sister got to though.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/21 08:19 AM
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The internet is the number 1 cause of the worlds problems
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/21 06:10 AM
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It isnt. However this creates the patriarchy that feminists bitch about non stop
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/21 12:04 AM
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It would also destroy the economic structure of most countries for a hefty amount of time
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/21 01:15 PM
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It isnt evil. It just contradicts feminist goals so us men get bitter
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/21 04:23 PM
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its correct, its just what a particular women defines as "alpha" can greatly differ. Some women want the most nerdy types, some want the most physically strong, etc. The point is, men have to be better than women to get dates/romance/sex from said women. Hence patriarchy
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/21 12:22 AM
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The internet is responsible for almost all the worlds problems today. I can see secular value to the tower of babel
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/21 07:24 AM
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Women are those needed to be impressed, so the point stands.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/21 09:06 PM
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and men who make and do things make vaginas wet, hence patriarchy.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/21 04:47 PM
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degraded when men perform femininity. Feminine beauty is the number one inspiration for most arts though
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/21 03:58 PM
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the number one thing that hurts men long term is that even the most liberal feminist women still only want men that are of higher social status than them. That creates toxic masculinity more than anything. Women do not have the sex drive to end the patriarchy.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/21 11:21 PM
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itt: the girls say maybe or yes, the guys all say no.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/21 02:30 PM
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Not just western societies. African and Asian societies prioritized the same things.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/21 07:41 AM
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Nobodys' does. Most liberal socialist marxist types would be very anti sexual socialism. And most economic capitalists seem to preach sexual socialism, or at least sexual monogamy
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/21 07:16 AM
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already have!
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/21 06:31 AM
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throughout the posts!
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/21 04:52 AM
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i already have!
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/21 11:23 PM
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i am!
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/21 10:04 PM
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Nope, youre doing it again!
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/21 04:45 PM
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about what your original response was!
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/21 02:42 AM
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Nope, keep guessing!
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/21 09:14 PM
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but thats not what you said. You are retconning
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/21 08:47 PM
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Thats not the first thing you responded to! You responded too my comment that women take more precausions with sex because their body gets altered during it. This places a fact in their selection process. You then said no it doesnt becuase you are unobservant!
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/21 07:08 PM
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nope!
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/21 06:15 AM
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thats not what you were arguing against, trying to find an out i see!
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/21 04:21 AM
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more than commitment yep!
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/21 04:17 AM
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nope
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/21 04:13 AM
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never said it was altruistic!
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/21 04:06 AM
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glad you agree with me, no go realize reality
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/21 03:34 AM
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everyones selfish
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/21 03:28 AM
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no, they think hes hot and thus improves her status and also any baby will be attractive Again, talk to women.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/21 02:36 AM
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you need to talk to women more. They definitely do
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/21 02:32 AM
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no. They care about the genetics of the baby more than anything else.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/21 01:25 AM
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she values the looks, the money, the social status, the intelligence, etc. The commitment is what she thinks shell get, but thats not the attraction
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/21 11:17 PM
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thats not what triggers the value. Its the looks, money, intelligence even, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/21 10:00 PM
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because they pick men that they deem high value, and those men get lots of attention from women so they have more options. Thus they leave when they get bored, creating the single mother.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/21 06:20 PM
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That definitely is a subconscious aspect to sex for a woman no question
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/21 05:19 PM
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Pregnancy is a much bigger consequence than us dudes losing a small amount of jizz
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/21 02:00 PM
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Womens standards are a fair bit higher since their bodies are altered during sex. Also the standards women place on men basically is the patriarchy. Do you want dates/romance/casual sex/marriage? Be older than her, make more money than her, have good style, and have some muscle but dont look like a freak. Basically be dominant physically, intellectually, socially, financially. And then feminists why men "control everything". Women need to deem a lot more types of adult men sexy to end the patria…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/21 07:30 AM
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can you explain the 2010s then?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/21 07:20 PM
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so you think women were outearning men in the early/mid 10s and now its switched back? Cmon. Your one link is not the be all end all.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/21 06:44 PM
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the recession has been going on more or less since 2008. This notion that it was over before covid....nah. It became the new normal. I'd argue women's salaries have gotten better over the past decade however, and the past 30+ years edit: https://www.marketwatch.com/story/young-women-are-getting-richer-as-young-men-get-poorer-2017-04-20-16881139 this was an article from 2017 fwiw. Much more recent.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/21 05:34 PM
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ok so the question is, my article from 2014 says women earn more, yours from 2020 say men. Do you really think we've been seeing less women's empowerment financially the past 10 years? Idk something seems wrong somewhere.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/21 04:44 PM
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i dont have the link i normally use off hand, but here is one https://www.forbes.com/sites/realspin/2014/02/24/childless-women-in-their-twenties-out-earn-men-so/?sh=196a97d4a82c dated 2014. Do you think anything has changed in the past 6 to 7 in men's favor?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/21 02:42 AM
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already been starting, id argue since the late 00s/early 10s. Its definitely getting worse though, and maybe people are starting to take notice?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/21 06:57 PM
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its not just 18-25 anymore, its actually well into your 30s.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/21 06:47 PM
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because women spend money on themselves and the kids, men spend money on women and kids with a very little amount for themselves. Most men have to live the cuck life, shes more desirable than you so you have to take what you can get.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/21 06:46 PM
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It is. People are lonely, isolated, and pissed. People claim they hate gender roles, but they expect them in their partners, thus nothing changes. Basically all the current problems in developed countries revolves around social media jealousy and the fact that people say they want to end gender roles, but don't want to be inconvenienced themselves. The future is pretty bleak tbh.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/21 10:37 PM
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Matriarchies dont breed
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/21 12:10 AM
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why do some women think they deserve preferential treatment in hiring because they are women? People want stuff.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/21 11:24 PM
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its understated. The entire world we live in now revolves around about 8 websites
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/21 10:13 PM
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eh i think certain aspects of the internet have been great. Yes it fucks up dating as higher speed internet has become more and more the norm (in all of our gadgets). I do agree (at least I think you are echoing this point) that the downsides of the internet are rarely if ever talked about though, and there are plenty.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/21 10:49 PM
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you are looking at legal discrimination. This is still discrimination. You just dont like being called it because you are discriminating (so do I if it makes you feel better)
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/21 10:47 PM
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discrimination does not imply anything of the sort. Discrimination is just having a bias that you act upon in some way. Dating preferences are discrimination. They also create the vast majority of the world we live in
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/21 06:28 PM
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the internet seemed to be a massive boon to society when you needed to be at a stationary location to use it, but yes the issues the internet has caused needs to be discussed more
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/21 06:26 PM
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I'd argue men need to be less thirsty, but women also need to deem a larger percent of men as attractive as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/21 06:24 PM
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Social media from about 2007ish to the present never existing. Or maybe just needing to always be at a desktop or laptop to access the internet. Would do wonders for dating, and also things like attention spans which are dropping immensely too.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/21 06:23 PM
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Dating preferences are 100% discrimination. We just view dating and sex differentially than jobs. Which is a massive problem because these things are not independent of each other
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/21 05:13 PM
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Of course. Anyone who spends money on their content is fucking stupid
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/21 08:22 PM
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Its a start for sure
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/21 08:52 PM
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I disagree witht that. People seem to be hypocrites when it comes to things like this from my observations
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/21 07:55 PM
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Increased promiscuity leads to jealousy from those not getting as much/any at all and will cause the collapse of society also
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/21 03:49 PM
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Its moreso not basing each others value tbh
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/21 03:46 PM
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my point is clearly going over your head.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/21 11:16 PM
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Well if women deemed more men attractive and approached men as frequently as men approach women, we wouldn't have evolved to be so competitive amongst men. It all comes down to men not wanting to help other men because if that man gets ahead, he now has ever so slightly less access to women.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/21 02:32 PM
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The pandemic and social media in general is turning a small but enough men into fucking nutsos and turning large amounts of women into asexual or lesbians. Dating apps ruining it for normal people. I hope you find a guy who is reasonable
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/21 04:07 AM
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nope. Nothing starts at the social level. You just see a surface level analysis of the issue.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/21 10:25 PM
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it sucks but its true.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/21 06:28 AM
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nope. The biological urge for safety is what causes the agreed upon. Thats the point. Above all, social constructs are based on biology. Nothing starts at the social level.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/21 02:27 AM
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Because thats what was agreed upon due to proximity. Its still rooted in desire for safety and understanding, which is biological
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/21 10:53 PM
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nope. Language is agreed upon to avoid confusion and keep peace, which are biological impulses from you and others
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/21 03:18 PM
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Nope. The desire to keep peace is biological
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/21 08:40 PM
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Nothing is socially constructed. Everything is a product of impulses to and from people's brains and then agreed upon because the impulse of security causes people to agree and keep peace even if they dont want it.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/21 05:28 PM
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Women dont deem enough men desirable to end the patriarchy sadly. This is how is goes
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/21 10:33 PM
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This is exactly the problem. Its like how socialist types who criticize jordan peterson's hypocracy (economic capitalism, sexual monogamy) dont see their own hypocracy.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/21 04:54 PM
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Planned parenthood
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/21 03:15 PM
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Publically funded brothels. Probably will need more for men because its much harder for me to get sex than my sister. But we already publically fund womens sexuality quite a bit more than mens anyway so i think this would be fair, and we would still fund a fair bit for women
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/21 11:34 PM
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Take the L dummy
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/21 04:25 AM
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youre grasping. You were proven wrong that it happens, and now still trying to cling
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/21 02:17 AM
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Its 100% the truth that SOME women do it for male attention
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/21 12:44 AM
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Which is the truth. Again nobody is saying all bi women do this. Plenty do though. You seem to be very upset that they do
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/21 11:50 PM
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