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| 12 | TRP fantasyland | Debate | anata555 | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/08/15 11:43 PM |
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| 0 | TRP fantasylandThis is an unpublished, non peer-reviewed masters thesis. The study is not set in a workplace environment, but rather asks people their opinions online. I'm not sure how you see this as somehow relevant to the issue of whether women feel the STEM workplace is a hostile workplace because male colleagues don't compliment them on their looks? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/08/15 02:51 PM |
| -1 | TRP fantasylandThat there are smallish numbers of women in STEM is not the issue of debate here. The TRPers are trying to suggest that women in STEM perceive the STEM workplace to be a hostile work environment because they aren't being complimented on their looks by their male colleagues. That's the fantasy issue. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/08/15 11:19 AM |
| 1 | TRP fantasylandSo could more men train as early years teachers to provide a more "male" environment for boys in their early years? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/08/15 11:17 AM |
| 0 | TRP fantasylandRound my way - there's loads of women in sweatpants. Seriously lots of women don't bother getting "dressed up" unless they have a special event. They're just going about their business, working, shopping, picking up the kids etc. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/08/15 10:30 AM |
| -1 | TRP fantasylandNo that is what the TRPer believes. That women want to be complimented on their looks in STEM workplaces and perceive the workplace to be hostile if they aren't complimented. That's what I find fantastical. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/08/15 10:18 AM |
| -1 | TRP fantasylandNot everyone wants to have to leave their job because they are being harassed by their boss. Perhaps it's your dream job, perhaps it's the only job of that kind in the area, perhaps harassment shouldn't be an issue. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/08/15 10:14 AM |
| -5 | TRP fantasylandNo, I think most business advisors would suggest that commenting on looks is not advisable http://www.businessinsider.com/inappropriate-workplace-behaviors-2014-8?IR=T | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/08/15 10:12 AM |
| -2 | TRP fantasylandYes, in TRP fantasy world - all women dress up all the time. They never leave the house without makeup or dressing up. They always wash their hair every day. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/08/15 10:10 AM |
| -1 | TRP fantasylandThe reason to mention women's performance in education is to demonstrate that they have a track record of achievement. Therefore why would women (who have worked hard and done well at school) suddenly become vapid dolls in the workplace, who care primarily about whether or not some STEM guy gives them compliments on their looks. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/08/15 10:07 AM |
| -1 | TRP fantasylandThe dongle woman was fired herself for making her dongle complaint. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/08/15 10:00 AM |
| -2 | TRP fantasylandHe didn't do that though did he - he made it about her looks. We are arguing about what he actually said, not what you'd like him to have said. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/08/15 09:58 AM |
| -5 | TRP fantasylandBut what special treatment are you saying women expect in the workplace exactly? The OP TRPer claimed that not getting complimented on one's looks is all it takes for a "7/10" to cry "hostile work environment". This is a laughable suggestion. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/08/15 09:56 AM |
| 2 | TRP fantasylandWhere's the evidence of differential support? At my university we just had classes and exams. There was no "special support" for anyone except people with dyslexia or dyspraxia. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/08/15 09:51 AM |
| 4 | TRP fantasylandUm, where did I say guys are misogynist? Or that girls are awesome? To point out that women achieve well academically and wish to be taken seriously in the STEM workplace (as opposed to being mere repositories for compliments) is not to say that "girls are awesome" or that "guys are misogynist". | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/08/15 01:26 AM |
| 1 | TRP fantasylandHe said she has a problem because they don't comment on her looks. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/08/15 01:18 AM |
| 1 | TRP fantasylandExcept when it's your boss it's not so easy. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/08/15 01:07 AM |
| 0 | TRP fantasylandUh no, he related everything to the woman's looks. She's apparently a 7/10. The STEM guys don't compliment her. To quote him, he said: " You know, your male orbiters you usually have as an over average 20yo woman. Even if you do not want to fuck them, you enjoy having orbiters. But a room full of male STEM students? Silence! Maybe the guy you sit down next to says "hi" to you. But I never witnessed a girl getting just one compliment in a STEM course for her looks. Never! May it be because they d… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/08/15 01:06 AM |
| 0 | TRP fantasylandThe definition applies equally to men. My brother was unhappy in his workplace when a gay colleague kept hitting on him and making sexualised suggestions towards him during the working day. He felt uncomfortable and just wanted to be able to get on and do his job rather than constantly deflect unwanted attention. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/08/15 12:57 AM |
| -1 | TRP fantasylandIn my country, assessment is 50/50 coursework and exam. That means that people who do well in exams and people who do well in coursework have equal opportunities to succeed. So I'm not sure how you can construe that as "favouring a female mindset". | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/08/15 12:54 AM |
| 0 | TRP fantasylandI think if you read the post, you'll find that he expressly says that the STEMers don't give compliments on looks and that this is a problem for women in STEM. "Imagine you are a 20yo woman and a 7/10. The world bends over backwards for you just for this already. Now add that you are also skilled in maths and physics. Your high school teacher probably tells you that you are gonna be the next Marie Curie (except for the dying part). And now you enter a STEM course. Boom! New world! You enter a ro… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/08/15 12:51 AM |
| -3 | TRP fantasylandYes that's understandable. Can you contribute to their posts or do they just delete? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/08/15 12:47 AM |
| -1 | TRP fantasylandBut this assumes certain things. Eg. the way I am treated in a bar, is wholly different to the way I expect to be treated at work. At work, I expect to be treated according to how well I perform in my job, not according to whether I look nice or wear a hot outfit or have a nice demeanour. That's the whole point of my post. Women don't expect "special treatment" at work - work is work. We aim to do well, achieve in the workplace and earn our wages just like anyone else. If male colleagues seek to… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/08/15 12:47 AM |
| -1 | TRP fantasylandI live in an Anglo country though. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/08/15 12:44 AM |
| 0 | TRP fantasylandAccording to wikipedia, the definition of a hostile workplace in the US is: " when one's behavior within a workplace creates an environment that is difficult for another person to work in. Common complaints in sexual harassment lawsuits include fondling, suggestive remarks, sexually-suggested photos displayed in the workplace, use of sexual language or off-color jokes." | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/08/15 12:39 AM |
| -1 | TRP fantasylandYes, that's my point. There are reasons why some women might consider some workplaces to be hostile - but not being on the receiving end of compliments is certainly not one of them. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/08/15 12:38 AM |
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