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GOLD STAR FOR YOU. As you stab that cervix, I want you to think of me, crying tears of salty pride.
/r/seduction22/11/12 06:41 AM
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I wish I could offer you my in-field videos, but alas they don't exist. Just consider that many of the most charismatic celebrities are not terrifically tall or well-built. Mystery and Style are pretty average, amirite? Confidence is the power pill that makes you ten times taller and stronger.
/r/seduction13/11/12 03:00 PM
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Oh, in that case you get an automatic +10 to charisma with younger HBs. Do whatever the fuck you want; you're the authority figure.
/r/seduction13/11/12 12:24 PM
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Not if you account for inertia with 10-12 ft clearance. Give them room to slow down and stop. p.s. It's a Newtonian law of motion, not thermodynamics.
/r/seduction13/11/12 11:57 AM
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This. Haters gonna hate; sounds like some people treat Seddit as a competition and don't like losing. Just run your own race, people.
/r/seduction13/11/12 11:49 AM
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Where you at homey? I'm in backwater China so I feel your pain somewhat; my Mandarin is limited.
/r/seduction13/11/12 11:41 AM
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I'm curious about the subject as well. In my experience, what distinguishes hired guns is the limited attention you can command. They're busy at a job from which they can get fired, trying to earn tips from as many people as possible. They don't have time for your rapport-building or drawn-out escalation. My strategy is to open quickly, make intermittent contact throughout the evening, and #-close for a future rendezvous outside of her work hours. Bonus if you can bounce straight after she clock…
/r/seduction13/11/12 11:38 AM
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Dancing is but one pickup option among many. Don't let it slow you down.
/r/seduction13/11/12 11:23 AM
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Fuck it, better a player than an AFC. Act the gentleman with one and news will spread.
/r/seduction13/11/12 11:15 AM
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Varies from culture to culture, but 30-year-olds typically face more pressure to settle down so they're more serious with their dating. Women are also more ageist, so it's tougher if you're younger. You need to make sure you act and dress the part if you're cougar-hunting.
/r/seduction13/11/12 11:13 AM
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Whatever works for you. It can work in your favor if you get her name without giving yours, forcing her to ask for it later. Or better yet, make a game out of it and make her guess.
/r/seduction13/11/12 11:08 AM
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Transitioning from indirect is no more difficult than opening directly. Both excite the same kind of AA (though one could argue that indirect is nonetheless easier because you've already established a minimum level of acquaintance). "Hey I'm kinda lost because this bar is so big, do you know where the bathroom is? . . . Kidding, I just wanted an excuse to talk to you. So what's your name?"
/r/seduction13/11/12 11:06 AM
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Take a look at Amy Cuddy's TED talk to get a sense of how your pose can generate real ultimate power. Chest out, shoulders back, legs and arms expansive. As for how you stand out: I'm in a similar height situation, and I usually win by just being the most awesome. If you generate interest as a value-giver, height is a non-issue.
/r/seduction13/11/12 11:01 AM
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Snow.
/r/seduction13/11/12 05:52 AM
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There's one thing to keep in mind on Seddit: the typical PUAs will read a good FR, give you an upvote without comment, and get back to sarging. You can tell it's the noobs who don't get enough sunlight offering so much unconstructive criticism. Haters always gotta be hatin -- but you're the one who earned the f-close so fuck 'em. They're just giving you more practice in maintaining zen.
/r/seduction12/11/12 06:28 PM
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Nice work, brother. Props for pulling off a cheesy line. Some observations: Use more formatting to make your post easier to read. For example, tips can go in bold. Separate intro/story/conclusion with line breaks. Don't be afraid of spell/grammar-checking at least once before submitting. Lucky that HB8.5 approached you herself! I wonder if a 3-way was in the cards should you have re-opened both of them. Point being, don't wait for others to do the aggressing. I like your inner game, and it could…
/r/seduction12/11/12 12:36 PM
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Karaoke is not a beast to be trifled with. Avoid if possible. It's hard to gain much: even if you're awesome, it's hard to tell through the terrible sound system, and you could make everyone else feel bad anyway. [I'm guessing this is because karaoke brings out competitive instincts, given that most everyone has a sincere interest in music.] Worst-case scenario where you're forced to sing, you better be goofy as all fuck to show how unseriously you take it. Make it a display of your idgaf ridicu…
/r/seduction12/11/12 12:15 PM
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I'd confirm she's the flaky type with a phone call rather than text. Give her enough time to respond, and if she still doesn't, just move on. [And just so you know, it's "rationale".]
/r/seduction12/11/12 11:57 AM
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The goal of the pua is to reduce the amount of bullshit necessary to get close to a girl faster so that you can talk less and less until the primal nonverbal communication of "Let's have sex" is made by both parties. The goal isn't sex though, the goal is to get to that level of closeness to a girl to determine if she's the one for you. If she's not, then you move on. Agreed. I'd say that since the advent of agriculture and property ownership, society has become much more emotionally isolating f…
/r/seduction12/11/12 11:54 AM
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You could try the Questions game, sort of a variant on Truth or Dare. Rules: taking turns, each person gets to ask one question. No repeats. If you don't want to answer, you have to answer two questions the next round. Now see how fast you can make it sexual.
/r/seduction12/11/12 11:49 AM
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I see what you mean. It sounds like these people suffer from some combination of megalomania, narcissism, schizophrenia, and/or psychosis . . . definitely not conditions treatable by a simple sidebar. But it's a false binary to choose between pickup and therapy. I should hope that by joining the PUA scene, these kind of people would have their eyes opened to self-improvement, and subsequently get the help they need. And if some haven't yet reached that realization on their own, then we owe it to…
/r/seduction11/11/12 07:20 PM
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Hold up a minute . . . Being a PUA doesn't require a fucked-up childhood in any way, just a healthy interest in personal development. It doesn't mean you have to sacrifice your other pursuits at all; in fact, it should complement and foster them. Why would a normal person be obsessed about [sic] getting laid all the time? You may feel differently, but I've always been interested in getting laid as much as fucking possible. Most people (and certainly most people who want to meet women) likely fee…
/r/seduction11/11/12 07:01 PM
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Thank you for the links! I'm personally iffy on the evo psych, since it seems to ignore cultural variables/the frontal cortex. The study on stripper ovulation vs. tips especially cries out for further research.
/r/seduction11/11/12 02:04 PM
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I feel you, brother. As a non-advanced PUA, I'll venture to say that two things are possible. You're wasting a lot of effort on girls who don't deserve it. Doesn't matter how bad you want to get laid -- these girls don't deserve even a lay of desperation if they're leading you on so mercilessly. You're better than that, and you deserve better. But fine, let's suppose you do get laid once. Can you expect a satisfying sexual relationship to follow? If they're refusing even to kiss as it is, I woul…
/r/seduction11/11/12 01:40 PM
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knock knock
/r/seduction11/11/12 12:20 PM
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I like to hope that all PUAs, whether normal or not, will start with the idea that they need to get their lives in order before inviting women in. For some, that means exercise and meditation and a new wardrobe. For others, that means therapy. Unless you're a trained psychologist, I'm guessing the percentage of us who are beyond help is much much smaller than your "1 in 3 or 4." Even if it takes some willing spirits a bit longer than the rest, we leave no man behind here. So instead of setting n…
/r/seduction11/11/12 12:13 PM
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Thank you for this, OP; Seddit definitely needs to level up its discussion lately. Ulysses' Dilemma, huh? It sounds like you've finally overcome the prudish constraints of modern society, reclaiming your egalitarian bonobo heritage, and now you're free to be as discriminating with your female company as with your male company. Legendofpasta suggested hard mode; I second that. That means raising the cutoff past "tits and a hole" to "witty hotties who share my passions".
/r/seduction09/11/12 12:42 PM
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For sure. I'm the smartest guy in the room if I know how little I really know. Otherwise, how can I learn?
/r/seduction09/11/12 12:10 PM
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Great points. There does seem to be widespread ambiguity with "alpha" vs. "beta". Sometimes "alpha" means demonstrating dominant value in her eyes; sometimes it also means zen confidence regardless of what she values, binding 'who you want to be' with 'who you are'. But both these formulations mean "alpha" can change from day to day, set to set. There are too many variables affecting real-world value for "alpha" to maintain a perfectly consistent meaning, so it's a Sisyphean task to pin it down …
/r/seduction09/11/12 12:05 PM
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"Do you know what winks and fucks like a tiger?" Dear PUA Diary, today I learned the most adorable opener.
/r/seduction09/11/12 11:43 AM
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I don't think Plan B works for STDs. Trust me, I've tried :( This is probably the reason why James Deen just said in his AMA that he uses condoms ALL THE TIME EVERY TIME in his civilian life.
/r/seduction09/11/12 11:40 AM
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I have my doubts whether vicarious interaction through TV is a substitute for real-world practice. Worse, TV can often generate unrealistic expectations (Mad Men being a notable exception, among a select few). This is likely because most TV is not meant to educate grownup men but to entertain teenagers -- and most series still do a shitty job even with that limited aim; note that 5 seasons is considered an extraordinary lifespan. I'll grant you that any medium can be used well or used poorly, bu…
/r/seduction09/11/12 11:30 AM
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Don't sweat it, you know where she works. Just go back sometime.
/r/seduction09/11/12 11:07 AM
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Most women would also say they'd never date a PUA. That's because they're thinking with simplistic stereotypes, much like you.
/r/seduction08/11/12 11:55 AM
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This. You win some, you lose some. Keep swinging.
/r/seduction08/11/12 11:42 AM
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Conversely, it's topics like this that afford opportunities for the experts to step in and correct popular misconceptions. Let's focus on the positive people. p.s. I have you tagged "she touched me here" because that was an awesome Halloween story, good job bro
/r/seduction07/11/12 11:56 AM
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you only want to neg about THINGS THAT CAN BE CHANGED Yes. That's exactly why I steer clear of racism, hetero-normativity, sexism, xenophobia, etc. This also makes me think about humor in general, and what makes jokes funny.
/r/seduction07/11/12 11:51 AM
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This thread confirms how difficult it can be to pin down a concept's meaning. That's because words aren't defined in a single baptism -- they develop over time through a synthesis of meanings, like strands in a rope. To define a concept like negging, you have to trace back its whole genealogy. And there's still no guarantee you'll ever get it exactly right, because language is like Calvinball. That's why I'm glad OP misused the word "neg" before I did; it's very easy to assume "neg" means anythi…
/r/seduction07/11/12 11:46 AM
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. . .
/r/seduction07/11/12 07:20 AM
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Great job, brother. Sorry you had to leave early! Let's keep working on losing the shy-guy, awkward vibe. It might work for women who are bold enough to open you themselves, but for most women, you're the one who needs to put in the legwork. [Gender roles and whatnot.] Moreover, you can bet your competition won't be waiting around shyly. One way forward would be to mentally adopt a new persona when you hit the set. You suddenly stop being shy-guy when you ask yourself the eternal question: what …
/r/seduction06/11/12 07:17 AM
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Agreed. OP's game sounds tight; I would chalk their flaking up to immaturity. Stop yourself as soon as you start feeling let down. You should instead be breathing a sigh of relief that you caught their irresponsibility so quick; most likely, they're canceling because they're at home in sweats watching Gossip Girl, unwilling to muster the effort for makeup and heels. And if they can't even be depended on to cancel dates like an adult, there's no use expecting more from them. I might have suggeste…
/r/seduction06/11/12 07:01 AM
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It's difficult to prescribe strict guidelines because every girl might react differently. For instance, I need to slow way down with girls out here in China because they're much more conservative. So you've gotta just use the Force and feel your way. The correct punch is the one that lands, amirite? You'll know you've escalated appropriately whenever she responds positively. Some things that will clue you in include her body language, whether she actively pursues conversation, eye contact, wetne…
/r/seduction05/11/12 11:58 AM
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My grandma would tell me to kill them with niceness. It can throw off your vibes even more if you just let him lurk in the periphery, waiting to step on your game again. So alpha up, adjust his wavelength to something positive, and bask in the afterglow of a challenge overcome. No matter who he is, there's at least one thing you two can bond over. Start with "I'm sorry man, I feel like we got off on the wrong foot. I'm hotcheetoes, what's your name again? What brings you here tonight?" Figure ou…
/r/seduction05/11/12 11:53 AM
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I se what you mean. The great thing about seduction is that we are aggregating content from many different subs, whether it be psych, neuro, zen, or fashion. The standard to measure posts against is simply whether they help guys meet girls.
/r/seduction05/11/12 11:30 AM
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Useful advice nonetheless. We're aiming for seduction, and part of that comes down to how sharp you look. Xpost if you feel like.
/r/seduction05/11/12 07:17 AM
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That works in less antagonistic situations, but this AMOG sounded about ready to throw a punch.
/r/seduction05/11/12 06:31 AM
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Sounds like a good night; great job. Three things particularly struck me: Make sure to cut out all racism/sexism/homophobia/ xenophobia. Some guys at an advanced level can pull it off with the appropriate irony, but be aware that even minor jokes can immediately morph you into a value-subtracting asshole. I get really annoyed when someone doesn't like me, and try to find out the cause of it and fix it. However, I just tried to ignore him for the rest of the night while I had a good time myself. …
/r/seduction05/11/12 06:30 AM
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There's a sidebar for this sort of thing. Study up, get some routines under your belt, and keep practicing!
/r/seduction05/11/12 05:31 AM
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For sure. Your alpha side has to commence foreplay much earlier. Don't play the nice asexual by simply offering vodka and a bed to herself; make her work to keep your company. I think the going rate for a shot of vodka is one article of clothing. Your bed? If she's good with her tongue, you'll let her stay until the next girl arrives. Keep up the good work!
/r/seduction04/11/12 11:36 AM
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I like your attitude, but those last two lines killed it for me: Sorry if this isn't the best field report. I just want to get it written down for my own benefit. You can keep a diary for this sort of thing. Otherwise, your FRs should aim to provide value to other Sedditors. Back to your night, adding to the problems pointed out by Waitwhatwtf: You "corrected" her. Do not pedantically cut down her value. If it's really that important, try using good teaching methods by asking gentle questions an…
/r/seduction04/11/12 11:21 AM
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Nice post, keep up the good work. I'm not sure about the musical chairs; it would be better to engage the whole table rather than zeroing in on one target the whole time. That way, you keep her guessing and demonstrate alpha value.
/r/seduction04/11/12 10:52 AM
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Here's a way to tell the difference: did his value go up or down? Since he showed empathy for her work pressures, my money's on up.
/r/seduction04/11/12 10:33 AM
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Nice FR. I'm looking forward to more of these.
/r/seduction04/11/12 10:30 AM
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Sound advice as far as social proof goes. You're treading familiar territory with your broader advice to "create your own fun", i.e. be a value-giver, but it's important to note that this doesn't just boil down to hosting parties (which isn't an option for a good fraction of Sedditors outside college anyway). There are easier ways to "create spectacle" without the time + effort + $ of party prep/hosting/cleanup. This part seems to acknowledge that: It is infinetly harder to create fun at a venue…
/r/seduction03/11/12 07:46 AM
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I really feel you, man. I ran into this same problem last night, and I wonder if it stems from intimidation and/or miscommunicated intention. Put yourself in her head: "This guy is having a great time dancing by himself, and that's cool, but now he wants me to dance too . . . I don't want to dance because I'm comfortable in this girl-clump." That kind of dance opener comes too fast before sufficient rapport has been established to isolate her from the group. You're offering little upside for her…
/r/seduction03/11/12 06:55 AM
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That's more like it! This all sounds very Buddhist, based on my passing knowledge of it. One note of caution to bear in mind, however, is that this line of reasoning tends toward epoche, or total suspension of judgment -- so you're kinda left anchorless. When you don't desire anything, it's hard to get your bearings and change course in life. According to common sense, on the other hand, it seems reasonable to flatly assert that desires are inescapable for us humans; the only things you can miti…
/r/seduction02/11/12 07:41 PM
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<furiously scribbling notes>
/r/seduction02/11/12 02:22 PM
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I'm very taken with your statistics-driven approach. Thanks for the good reads!
/r/seduction02/11/12 02:14 PM
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Please read more of the sidebar before making comments like this. "Being good-looking" is not what this sub is about.
/r/seduction02/11/12 12:52 PM
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Good on you, mate. Doesn't even seem like the 'dark dance corner' was that irrecoverable an error. I'm not the slightest bit worried about your future.
/r/seduction02/11/12 10:24 AM
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I am so proud of you right now. Imma have to study this a few more times before the final
/r/seduction02/11/12 09:59 AM
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I would add a caution: caffeine can contribute to anxiety, and alcohol can make you dependent. Better to overcome your nerves with more practice. But deep breathing (and meditative exercises) are awesome.
/r/seduction02/11/12 07:48 AM
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Reset your frame. You think you've got something to lose because she's the one handing out value -- this is incorrect. You are the one giving value, so you are the one who needs to be adapted to. Just remember you don't have to give a fuck because you're awesome all by yourself. Seriously: "IDGAF BWAHAHA" in your head during the whole conversation. This might belong in AskSeddit, by the way.
/r/seduction02/11/12 07:44 AM
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Don't isolate yourself with a phone... do some warmup sets. Since you're an alpha, you should be asking yourself what nearby options can keep you interested for 30 minutes (or longer). Keep an eye out for social proof.
/r/seduction02/11/12 07:25 AM
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I think this belongs in AskSeddit. Off the cuff, you could mention that you get that compliment frequently, you're tired of it, so "What other compliments can you give me?"
/r/seduction02/11/12 07:03 AM
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Outside of your batcave, there are beautiful women who give out PUA points. Go, find them, slay them, score those points, and you'll be leveling up in no time.
/r/seduction01/11/12 08:13 AM
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I don't think the alpha/AFC distinction is helpful since it wouldn't be obvious at first glance (unless you mean something akin to the HB scale). Regardless, you'll get plenty of practice just approaching whomever you feel like. Don't waste your time with targets you're not genuinely interested in -- it'll show.
/r/seduction31/10/12 07:47 AM
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It's true that "giving value" is not a new concept. But it sounds like we're dealing with a wider claim here. [Buckle your seat belts, I'm not fucking around with this one.] First off, OP -- I thought I was adding value. Cmon now, let's have a little more confidence, brother. When you put something out there and it meets with criticism, that means you've got a chance to refine your thoughts . . . not retract them entirely. I'm really more an occasional lurker than I am an expert. So just because…
/r/seduction30/10/12 12:13 PM
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Not sure I follow on that first one... covering your crotch prevents your dick from swinging freely. [Also, mammals tend to cover their genitals when they feel threatened, which you shouldn't because you're a boss.]
/r/seduction30/10/12 10:16 AM
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I don't understand. Sexual works just as well with sisters.
/r/seduction30/10/12 10:13 AM
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You elegant bastard.
/r/seduction29/10/12 08:58 AM
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I agree. I mean, if this classy bit didn't work: I stay set and make a joke about Friday afternoon being my day in the library, how dare he move from his assigned sector. . . . She “just made the cutoff” . . . "pfft You think I'm adorable too? Fuck off." I would expect for the future that the PUA community going mainstream/becoming widespread should be a good thing on the whole. Greasing the wheels of social interaction means less awkwardness, less frustration, more happy customers. The problem …
/r/seduction29/10/12 08:49 AM
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Show some respect by explaining the situation to him, then fingerbang her in front of his face do your thing. Listen, you are not obligated to always please your friends, but you are obligated to be honest, and furthermore, you should strive to share your knowledge where it's helpful -- even if it doesn't make him happy with you. edit: Yes I mean "obligation" under a Kantian notion of categorical imperative re-edit: Yes I assume "friend" implies someone whose Platonic well-being you value as muc…
/r/seduction29/10/12 08:27 AM
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<gets a blowjob in front of his face instead>
/r/seduction29/10/12 08:12 AM
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Sorry you had to deal with such a shitty situation, brother. It's is a great question I've been wondering about myself. Some of the advice you're getting seems sound: de-escalate, remove yourself from the situation, be nice with the staff. You stand to gain very little from physical confrontation; I wish it were an option for you to quickly bounce with the HB, but sounds like she abandoned you right away. On the other hand, something needs to be done about douchebags like that. Short-term, they'…
/r/seduction29/10/12 08:06 AM
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I'm gonna have to disagree with you there about relevancy. OP wasn't looking for a fight, and this is a situation that anyone could run into. Two universal concerns here: personal safety, and AMOGs.
/r/seduction29/10/12 07:27 AM
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Thanks for the boost, man. And such lovely writing, too.
/r/seduction29/10/12 07:02 AM
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That makes a lot of sense. I should probably eat more just to give her a chance.
/r/seduction29/10/12 05:04 AM
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I can't link from China, but you should check out youtube for Sasha Daygame's surprise attack method: he runs up from behind and jumps in front of them with his hands spread. HEY STAY CALM I'M SASHA. I'm amazed that no one has yet punched him directly in the face. But then again, it might play as a fear-then-relief psych tactic. Personally, I would go for a frontal approach by opening from the 10-12 ft. range. Gives them time to slow down, makes you appear balls-out confident.
/r/seduction28/10/12 09:20 AM
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Au contraire, I think it helps to eat an adequate meal before going out. You gotta put fuel in the furnace if you want to stay sharp, i.e. nutrient-dense with low glycemic load. The best foods to eat for productivity, according to the World Health Organization, are nuts, seeds, chocolate (especially dark chocolate), fish, blueberries, avocado, whole grains, and raw carrots.
/r/seduction28/10/12 08:52 AM
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p.s. You might also check out /r/sex for tips about performance anxiety. p.p.s. This is why PUAs avoid alcohol, or at the very least drink equal amounts water + alcohol.
/r/seduction28/10/12 08:45 AM
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No worries -- she sounds cool, so you were probably putting unnecessary pressure on yourself. Next time (which should be whenever works best for you), you might try just enjoying yourself. This is a woman who will let you touch her boobies fer chrissakes. As long as everyone's enjoying themselves, who's to complain if foreplay goes past an hour, or two? tl;dr Using your head too much, try hands and tongue instead
/r/seduction28/10/12 08:42 AM
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I'm running into this problem in Asia too. I'd suggest non-verbal games e.g. dice or cards, preferably with stripping and drinking. Hope it went well!
/r/seduction26/10/12 11:41 AM
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It's not even that unlucky if they really have boyfriends... just more target practice for pleasant conversation. Could be even easier when you acknowledge they have boyfriends, and they realize you just want to make smalltalk without scoring. pew pew
/r/seduction26/10/12 11:38 AM
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The man she deserves, but not the one she needs right now...
/r/seduction26/10/12 11:35 AM
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Some unsourced responses off Seddit: "Oh, he can come too" "Is she of equal or greater attractiveness?" "So... are you gonna kick that habit soon or what?" "So do I, you don't see that stopping me" "My bad, I didn't see any signs saying whose property you are" "Boyfriend? Slow down there, cowgirl -- I wasn't talking about a relationship, I just wanted you to use my body and then throw me away like a dirty towel"
/r/seduction26/10/12 11:31 AM
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This is the kind of FR I like because it focuses on the relevant variables for replicability rather than being just another "dear diary". Scientific method FTW
/r/seduction26/10/12 11:19 AM
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Sorry to hear that -- it sounds like you did the best you could. I'm not sure anyone really doesn't want to be loved, but if she has problems with loving herself, then it could have been hard for her to understand why anyone else would love her. Unfortunately, this come up often with bipolar or depressive disorders. She might benefit from counseling to make sure that's not the case.
/r/seduction23/10/12 07:26 AM
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Way to go, bro. Keep it up.
/r/seduction20/10/12 11:48 AM
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What do you have to lose? The IRL-you doesn't seem related to the text-you in her head yet, so no reason not to approach again. Next time you see her, you should flip the script and make it her bad that she forgot. What, you thought I was a telemarketer? Honey, I'm not sure you could handle what I can offer anyway.
/r/seduction19/10/12 09:40 AM
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I have tears of pride in my eyes. My niggah.
/r/seduction18/10/12 10:16 AM
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Great job, bro. Your FR writing style is fine by me. But can't you like classy girls and have intercourse with them? Whatever- go west, young man, and build your mystique.
/r/seduction18/10/12 10:11 AM
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I hope you'll forgive some philosophy, but this makes me wonder: Who are you? I mean, what does your identity consist of? What connects your yesterday with tomorrow? Nothing really actually binds cause to effect except we're used to seeing them near each other, according to some guy Hume. So you're used to being the AFC. Ok, cool. I guess there's nothing stopping you from staying that way. But if you can make even the tiniest improvement in how you relate to others, if you can seize just one iot…
/r/seduction18/10/12 10:03 AM
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When do you ask? Whenever you feel like it, but definitely before you start strategizing an exit. I won't pretend I've got it figured out, but I think it might help to reframe the situation with a more outcome-independent attitude instead of AA overthinking. The critical juncture isn't whether or not she accepts; it's whether or not you're comfortable with striking up conversation anytime, anywhere, without worrying about exit strategy. So she doesn't give her number? It doesn't mean she rejecte…
/r/seduction18/10/12 09:46 AM
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