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If on the other hand your default is "Women don't like me, they don't know I exist, if a woman is looking at me it's because I probably look weird or funny, she is probably just being nice to me, etc." then chances are you will never make any moves and you will be completely oblivious to signs of interest. seems like a convenient way to just blame men who are ugly and don't get attention from women/first moves from women lmao I was once an ugly duckling, and literally 0% of women would even ackn…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/22 09:36 PM
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Jesus christ Gen Z is so, so fucked. Everything you've said just points to this fact. You have no idea how easy you guys had it. Thank the lord I already have a gf and don't have to play the bullshit singles game anymore
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/22 09:31 PM
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Well I personally could tell it was about looks, growing up. Even as early as middle school I noticed that the more handsome boys got treated so much better than the rest of us despite basically no difference in our personality or sense of humor But whenever you bring up the fact that “men often get rejected by women due to being too ugly” you get backlash especially from women who don’t wanna come off as shallow. And plenty of men too, because implying that women select based on looks would nul…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/22 08:46 PM
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I don’t “think” anything I go directly off of what girls say online and in real life Honestly it sounds like the guys you work with are just objectively very good looking dudes and their behavior will be always received well. Because I’d be rich if I had a nickel for every time I heard about women complaining about flirty men
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/22 08:43 PM
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100% agree
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/22 08:42 PM
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Well I’d hope so. The reason why I’m worried it’s the generations as a whole is simply because we are the most distrusting generation yet.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/22 07:13 PM
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Dude seriously. Nobody my age actually socializes compared to older people. Like Gen Z has friends and stuff. But one thing I notice is how cliquey Gen Z is. So if you’re not in a friend group, you’re probably alone. You can’t just spontaneously make friends in most cases, you’ve gotta join some sort of club/organization (frat or sorority) which gets you a clique and therefore social opportunities. In general we are a very fearful closed off generation who is VERY quick to judge outsiders with l…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/22 07:02 PM
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Oh most men are definitely not on the receiving end anymore. This is compounded by the fact that Gen Z is very much on their phones all the time and many women are afraid of social interaction with men now more than ever. Men are afraid to approach women in public more and more every day, because they don’t wanna come off as the creepy guy who hits on girls. Meanwhile girls are always talking about wanting to be left alone but I’m sure a good looking dude could change that
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/22 04:30 PM
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It’s just stuff you’d see on instragram, Twitter, tiktoks, etc Usually coming from young girls. Men are misled into thinking the bar is really low and all he has to do is be respectful, put together, and have decent social skills. If anything, this is the bar for women not men.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/22 04:27 PM
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As a Gen Z guy in his early 20’s I’m telling you that men are totally misled from a young age. We have this issue where dudes are brought up to be really meek and timid around girls, because you don’t wanna be problematic or weird or whatever. Every young guy sees women complaining about men 24/7 on social media and of course it gets into your head. These men assume that men get rejected solely due to making sexist jokes or doing really bad things, not for being ugly. They can’t comprehend the i…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/22 04:24 PM
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That’s pretty harsh. Most social media and generalized societal speak tends to lean towards “if you’re a respectful guy, you’ll find a good girl” Which isn’t true at all. This idea of looks being a top priority isn’t talked about ever
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/22 04:18 PM
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for research purposes, how would you meet these hot 21 year olds?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/22 05:56 AM
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No, my friends irl say very similar things Basically, we all agree that Gen Z girls are kinda wack and in general not as good as us.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/22 01:07 AM
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Bro what are you even talking about lol I’m just saying things from my life And yeah I understand that I might be biased bc I don’t know how other people experience things, but guess what? Other men agree with me. I’m not alone. So deal with it
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/22 01:00 AM
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Okay not 99% of women, lol I was exaggerating. It’s more like 60-70%. The result is that a lot of guys settle for women who don’t deserve them, but guys usually don’t give a fuck about these things and just go with the flow. Also, I’ve been in many situations where I was settling hard. The issue is, I didn’t realize how bad the woman was until months later when things got serious. Believe it or not a lot of women don’t have much to offer aside from sex My point is this: whenever women complain a…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/22 12:49 AM
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It takes a bit longer than one night. Usually a few months, minimum. The issue is men nowadays are exposed to social media and other garbage that demeans them and reduces their self worth. Women experience the opposite; they are constantly coddled and told they are queens. Usually it goes like this: - man is ignored by women for his entire youth due to his looks - eventually he realizes the reality: women care about looks first, personality second - man goes to gym, puts more effort into his app…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/22 12:40 AM
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You can fuck someone and settle for them lol This is such an internet take. People settle all the time. But you won’t know until you wake up one day and realize your self worth. I’ve fucked women who were objectively uglier than me. That’s settling
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/22 12:21 AM
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Right? Like how tf do these women meet such shitty abhorrent people? If I didn’t know any better I’d think that being a shitty man is more attractive or something
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/22 12:17 AM
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Just read the past several posts from me. I'll lay it out since you seem a bit slow. most Gen Z women are fucking AWFUL at social interaction and have absolutely nothing interesting to say on dates. Hence why dating is so garbage for average men who actually have lives and a good friend group. Women date up, 99% of the time. So when I would date an average girl who had about the same social skills as me, she would take that as "this guy is boring" because these women have very little self awaren…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/22 09:12 PM
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Complete opposite. I've NEVER seen a woman say a "feminine" dude was attractive unless he was - very attractive - very famous - tall Honestly I can't think of a single example where a woman was like "I like this small, short, feminine dude with stereotypically feminine interests over this tall, strong masculine dude with stereotypically masculine interests".
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/22 09:10 PM
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Ad hom is basically the same as an insult, in the case of your """argument""" this term refers to a rhetorical strategy where the speaker attacks the character, motive, or some other attribute of the person making an argument rather than addressing the substance of the argument itself you just did this twice in a row. You ignored my points and refused to give any counter arguments. Why? Because you know you're wrong and have no experience in the topic at hand.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/22 09:05 PM
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I have a lot of friends and a good social life, so no. Nice attempt at an ad hom though LMAO Funny you bring up socially stunted, most Gen Z women are fucking AWFUL at social interaction and have absolutely nothing interesting to say on dates. Hence why dating is so garbage for average men who actually have lives and a good friend group. I personally dated a few girls who were clearly bad at social skills and put very little effort into themselves, but they obviously fell in love with me after s…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/22 08:58 PM
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I never did that PUA shit I have dating experience from a large public university in America, and yes men are treated like fucking circus animals lol Its not a debate for anyone who's under the age of 25 and has actually been in the dating scene with Gen Z women. Social media conditions all of us to expect certain things on a date. And for men, its so easy to mess up, come off as a tiny tiny bit awkward, stutter over words, be a bit shy or quiet at first, or whatever, and women lose interest bec…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/22 08:51 PM
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And of all dudes just stops eating junk food and lifting we’d all be in great shape. But look at that, we got an obesity epidemic. women are more obese than men in the US but that doesn't stop fit, in shape dudes from fucking fat girls. Thats what OP is saying. As men, we are settling for women who would not even glance at us if we were like them. And we base our self worth off of "do women like me" because thats how social media conditions younger men to think.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/22 08:42 PM
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save that energy for the women who like you. this just seems like a numbers game then, since the way men and women view each other is so different. OP is basically saying that men are often forced into a position where they are expected to act as a jester for women on dates. This is true. Before I met my gf I felt dehumanized by the Tinder dating scene. It took so many dates for me to realize that I wasn't the problem it was just the women on Tinder. Because once I started dating my current gf I…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/22 08:39 PM
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In my view it comes down to this: Women will excuse/ignore toxic things as long as they find the man attractive. For most women, their view of a man depends on how attractive he is. And in order for a woman to dislike an attractive man, he has to do some seriously heinous shit (sexual assault or some crime). So when these attractive men are accustomed to being chased by women, being treated like gods compared to the average joe, some of them probably become egotistical assholes who are openly mi…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/22 08:31 PM
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he's still right If you spend a lot of time in woman-dominated spaces, you see a lot of bitching and moaning about men being horrible people. And its pretty jarring to see that because I don't know any guys in my life who even come close to that. For me, I'd never make sexist jokes or make women feel worse about themselves. Neither would my single friends. But there are guys who are problematic and they aren't being "weeded out" of the pool by women as you'd expect
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/22 08:28 PM
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below average girls with no life skills or personality land boyfriends all the time, if they actually try.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/22 08:17 PM
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while they themselves can and should have as many sexual partners as they want. This seems like a complete strawman. Most guys who want low body counts are virgins themselves
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/22 12:50 AM
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things like personality, intelligence, career, etc LOL any woman who has these things regardless of looks will get a boyfriend/husband without trouble
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/22 09:27 PM
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Right? On Twitter there’s a lot of gays talking about “men are trash” etc etc Especially the feminine ones and bottoms. I think it’s just bitterness and personal issues tbh Makes it pretty easy for some women to jump on the “men are trash” train too
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/22 07:24 PM
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Yup. Lesbians have the least amount of sex out of all types of couples. Gay men have the most sex. Figures.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/22 07:19 PM
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very well put.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/22 04:45 PM
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Gay men complain about each other all the time lol This is the straightest shit I've ever seen on here by far. None of you seem to expose yourselves to gay spaces or culture
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/22 04:40 PM
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My current gf does a lot more but I’ve heard from tons of guys that women just lie there and expect men to do the work. It’s not about them not liking the guy, it’s just societal expectations of men vs women in bed. Especially fat girls are super lazy and don’t wanna try with sex. You sound like a typical Reddit virgin
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/22 05:00 PM
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Honestly I never ever see ugly guys with girlfriends. I’ve seen some older men with hotter wives but that’s not a good comparison. I have never seen a college aged guy pull a girl who was way hotter than him, except in maybe rare cases like 1 in 10,000.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/22 04:53 PM
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Well if it means anything I would have talked to you if I had the chance to. I’m a bit shy myself so I never really approached girls, but that doesn’t mean I disliked them. I was just scared to embarrass myself with rejection. I bet some guys were looking at you from a distance but were too scared to make a move. It’s more common than you think. The guys who actually ask girls out are usually a small % of total guys. Most of us don’t have the impulsiveness and low inhibition to approach girls an…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/22 04:52 PM
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My issue is that men who lack looks get really fucked over, at least in the short term. I have friends who aren’t exactly blessed with the genetic aspect, but they’re really great guys and have no real issues. I’d like to think they could get a gf if they really tried but I’m not sure
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/22 04:44 PM
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That’s true. I know guys who stayed virgins because they wouldn’t hire a prostitute or spend weeks or months of tinder swiping just to fuck some really ugly fat girl. One of my friends waited for 22 years and eventually got a gf. My other friends are still waiting. I don’t know if it bothers them that much tbh. I imagine girls are the same way but even more so. They don’t care about having sex anytime soon because they know it’s really easy to do.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/22 04:40 PM
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Bruh just talk to guys first if you want sex that badly. They will GLADLY give it to you. Guys will literally eat you out for their own pleasure and get off to your orgasm. Guys will pay for your food and then give you sex, all for free. It’s so easy. Maybe the guy YOU want isn’t interested. That’s a different story. Maybe you weren’t participating in socializing with guys and they thought you weren’t interested. Unless you have a severe facial deformity or birth condition, you will never be “to…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/22 04:38 PM
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Sometimes, but not usually. Most normal men really don’t care if a woman is a virgin. In fact a lot of my virgin friends would be happy with a virgin gf so that they can explore things together. It’s weird when you’re a virgin dude and a girl who fucked 40 guys wants to settle down with you
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/22 04:35 PM
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There are a lot of guys in your first category who aren’t trying to get it over with, instead they just wanna find the right girl. But that’s really hard because girls judge guys pretty harshly for being virgins as well. Even virgin girls judge guys which is weird but it happens. Another thing is that men are expected to be really good at sex 100% of the time while women are expected to just lie there. At least that’s my experience. In the past when I messed around with a virgin girl in college …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/22 03:55 PM
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Yeah, guys can be virgins despite their best efforts. It’s not really their fault that women are very picky about looks and genetic factors. A lot of it is luck too. Have you never had sex?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/22 03:49 PM
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Well it is a little weird, but not something I’d judge harshly for. I would maybe ask why that’s the case. Some guys can be assholes about it because for men being a virgin is embarrassing and they project that into women. But for women it’s usually by choice like I said
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/22 03:29 PM
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Yeah children literally belong to their parents. If they didn’t, there’s no obligation to raise them. It’s not to say children are property, but they are definitely the responsibility of the parents in a major way. Just like how a pet is a part of a family, a child is too. You are seriously fucked in the head if you don’t realize how deep the attachment between parents and children is supposed to be. When the child is a baby, that baby needs to belong to some family and belong to a parent. If th…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/22 03:07 PM
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Well I guess I can’t argue that
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/22 03:04 PM
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I didn’t say the average person was doing that, thankfully it’s pretty rare. Although I have met girls who did that shit and expected me to not care at all. You’re also being disingenuous and deliberately misunderstanding OPs point. Bringing up your exes and specific details about sex with other guys on a first date is weird as fuck. It’s one thing if you’re having a conversation with your partner about sex, it’s another thing if you barely know the girl and she’s basically bragging about how a …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/22 03:04 PM
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That’s true. I’ve noticed a lot of girls in college don’t really have sex because they truly want to. They do it because society (girls their age) tells them to. As a result, you see a lot of college girls fucking frat boys and other dickheads until they get bored of sex entirely. And more often than not they deeply regret the sexual encounters they had. The girls who don’t do this will be seen as weird or different. I’ve seen plenty of Gen Z girls use hooking up with misogynistic assholes as “e…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/22 02:36 PM
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I disagree. Virgin women will be idealized by tons of men. Especially men who are virgins themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/22 02:34 PM
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I mean if a woman chooses to abstain from sex that’s just a personal decision. Sure some might tease her for it but whatever. I don’t think it’s anywhere near as bad as what men go through: wanting to have sex but not being able to, due to factors out of your control
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/22 02:33 PM
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Honestly if a girl told me she was a virgin and she was 20+ I’d just assume she chose to be that way. There’s absolutely no way a woman tries to have sex and fails unless she’s extremely delusional with her standards and self sabotaged constantly
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/22 02:31 PM
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Porn does make you sexless. Saying that men should just be okay jacking off to some virtual sex scenes because they were born with too ugly of a face to meet women’s standards is extremely fucked up. Men shouldn’t be okay with that. It’s totally justifiable to push for a change in womens attitudes about men, especially how shallow women behave towards men. The reason why women refuse to fuck certain men has nothing to do with logic or objective reasoning, it’s the result of inflated egos and del…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/22 02:29 PM
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Do you have a cuck fetish? Why are you so okay with raising another man’s kid? Almost no man I’ve ever met thinks that’s a normal thing. The only reason I’d ever date a single mom is if she was bringing a shit ton to the table, which I guarantee she wouldn’t be doing. Like if she was a millionaire or some shit. It’s insane how you would spend your life raising a kid that’s not actually yours, when the real father is out doing who knows what, and 99% of women would never reciprocate
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/22 02:25 PM
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What men were saying that? Those dudes are really really desperate and lonely. That’s not normal and definitely not something I’d encourage in anyone. The guys saying that aren’t truly happy to forgo any chance of real intimacy with another human, for a lifetime of silicone and artificial degeneracy. In my opinion we shouldn’t just accept the idea of “well some men are naturally born ugly and women will never love them so those men should be happy with sex robots”. It’s dehumanizing and sad. You…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/22 02:22 PM
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The guy replying to you basically provided a response that disproved your point and you couldn’t reply. So you called him a virgin. That’s pretty telling that you lost the argument or whatever
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/22 02:16 PM
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That seems pretty wrong to me on a deep level. I’d never raise a child that wasn’t genetically mine unless maybe I adopted a child with my infertile partner. That’s the only possible exception, but I would not raise a child that belongs to another man in most cases
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/22 02:15 PM
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I already have a gf. I’m just drawing off of basic statistics about single mothers. Most are very low income and come from bad upbringings. I have no idea how this isn’t already implied. I’m not surrounding myself with these women, but I used to see them on tinder and stuff. It was obvious that they were looking for a guy to save them. I’d be really surprised if a single mother could match my income and basically be self sufficient and successful. That’s usually not the case.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/22 02:14 PM
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Why does there have to be 3+ kids? 2 kids is pretty much a handful if you wanna raise them right
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/22 01:15 PM
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No I’m saying that good looking men literally CANNOT be the first two men in OPs post. By definition those men are assholes because they were perceived as ugly for most of their lives
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/22 01:14 PM
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None of what you said actually applies to real life. In most cases, you’re not just the mothers new partner, you’re taking care of the kid who isn’t even yours. You’re paying for child care, the mothers bills, and more. That’s what most men do anyway. A lot of times, single mothers don’t even have contact with the father. It’s one thing for a man to come in after a divorce where the mother and father still keep in contact or even share custody, but it’s another thing for the mom to be stranded w…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/22 01:12 PM
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Yeah I’m saying he pays her bills and she does all the housework. No point in working a low paying job when you could stay at home
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/22 01:06 PM
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If they were good looking they wouldn’t be in that position where they’d do shitty things. Like OP said good looking dudes will usually fuck tons of girls without trying too hard and not have built up resentment later on. He always got what he wanted when he wanted, kinda like most women
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/22 01:03 PM
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I think it’s basically a trade off between two things: splitting bills and splitting house work. If a man is making a lot more than his wife, and they wanna split chores 50/50, then the wife shouldn’t get much of her husbands money or benefit from it. After all, he’s working a stressful high paying job and then doing as much of the chores as she is. He’s making more money than his wife, and on top of that doing half of the housework. Alternatively, the husband can do fewer chores than the wife w…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/22 12:58 PM
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Why can’t a woman be a housewife with two kids? If all her bills are taken care of what’s the issue? Why does she have to work a dead end low paying job when her income is basically negligible compared to the husband? Is it just principle for you?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/22 12:54 PM
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That’s not good communication, unless you’re seeing the person multiple times and you wanna talk about sex. And even then it’s kinda weird to constantly bring up past partners unprovoked like OP was talking about. You’re also deliberately changing the argument. Almost no woman would be okay with a guy going into detail about how he fucked two women at the same time, on the first date. That’s universally weird. So why is a woman getting spit roasted by two guys acceptable to talk about when you’r…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/22 12:52 PM
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I was sorta making a hypothetical situation, but I reread your post and now I see what you’re saying. Honestly if a woman is working a low paying job but has “the same hours” as the man with a high paying job, she should just quit her shitty job and be a full time housewife. I think that’s basically what you’re saying right?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/22 12:42 PM
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I’m gonna have to agree with the women on this one. If you’re making 500k a year but your job is easy as fuck and has short hours, you shouldn’t have to do chores around the house? Hours of work does matter. But the nature of the job also matters. However, I recognize that high paying jobs usually require more effort and mental labor than just staying at home. Since this is often the case, it makes sense to expect the person who isn’t working a high paying job to do more housework, to match. For…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/22 12:39 PM
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Idk you just seem to have a lack of understanding for other people who actually want sex from a human being. It’s weird that you think masturbating is a normal alternative for having no sex and no attention from women. For a guy, masturbating out of loneliness, because you have no other choice, is seriously depressing and suicide inducing. Especially if it’s your whole life. Like I said, most normal people basically need a partner in their life at some point. Some don’t, usually women, but almos…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/22 12:34 PM
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Well, I think the people who adopt children tend to be couples in long term relationships. Usually they are unable to conceive by themselves, or maybe they’re a gay/lesbian couple. In any case it seems like two people are deciding they want a kid at the same time. They’re on the same page. With single moms, it’s totally different. As a man, dating a single mom means you’re entering into a broken family and you’re expected to be the puzzle piece that fixes it up.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/22 10:53 AM
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Well from the looks of it you probably had a lot of sex with shitty guys, guys who are also whores, and then got bored. That’s on you. Most sweet kind men will avoid you by sheer instinct honestly. Chances are you’re also not very nice yourself, since you seem to hold a lot of value with having a high body count (something extremely easy for women to do, but not for men) I think promiscuous men should be judged the way promiscuous women are, but they barely even exist in the first place. The guy…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/22 10:46 AM
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Again you don’t seem to understand the male sex drive. Most normal, mentally stable men will not willing become addicted to porn and other degenerate shit. They won’t give up at having a normal sex life or relationship. Even if they do give up, they won’t be fine with it. Women like you don’t understand how it feels because you genuinely don’t care about forgoing sex. I’ve met tons of women who never ever felt inclined to hook up with a guy, or even get into a relationship. Men aren’t like that.…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/22 10:42 AM
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In my experience, most of the men who are my age and single are okay looking but have good personalities. Most of the women are usually decent looking but have bad personalities, or simply aren’t interested
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/22 10:36 AM
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Tons of women see it as a massive turn off when men bring up their sexual past on a date. It’s fucking gross either way, but men have the sense to not say shit like that. I can’t believe you’re justifying such a childish and braindead behavior
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/22 10:33 AM
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I’ve seen a few. But they never say they’re married. Usually it’s men who have some really dumb opinion, for example “you’re not getting girls because you aren’t trying hard enough”. It’s the equivalent to “you can’t get a job because you’re not giving the interviewer a firm handshake”. And so I go on their profiles and sure enough they’re talking about their wife
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/22 10:29 AM
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Those boysluts will have to suffer then. Fortunately for men, a very very tiny percentage are boysluts. The vast majority of men who judge women for their body counts are virgins or had a few partners in the past. I really feel sorry for whoever ends up with you, I hope he’s not a sweet, kind guy
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/22 10:27 AM
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Why are women having difficulty understanding this? It’s so fucking obvious that having a high body count is very hard for men, and ends up being extremely rare. Most men who want a virgin wife are virgins themselves
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/22 10:24 AM
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When I was talking to girls and meeting up with them off tinder, I always played it safe. I never really made a move and basically watched for body language or anything else that would indicate interest in physical stuff. But maybe that was the wrong move on my part. Like many other guys, I was and still am very scared of making women uncomfortable. But the guys who don’t give a shit what women think or feel end up being way more successful in all aspects of dating and hookups.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/22 10:14 AM
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The thought of raising someone else’s kid just seems wrong to me on a deep instinctual level. Especially at my young age, it makes zero sense to do that. Even if I was like 35 it wouldn’t be appealing in the slightest. I just don’t know why any man would agree to that, personally, unless he really really likes the woman that much. But in my mind I can’t think of anything that would compensate for having a child that’s not yours
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/22 10:10 AM
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The men here who say shit like “I have a wife and I’m not that rich or attractive” are always 40+ and have no idea what happens with Gen Z
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/22 10:06 AM
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Oh I totally agree. I usually don’t see women chase after men because they’re assholes. Maybe some do, but that’s rare. It’s just looks trumping personality
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/22 09:44 AM
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You make a good point. Now that I think about it, I have definitely met some women in college who are also virgins. The thing is, those girls tend to be single by choice. If they really tried they could get a bf. But they have no interest in sex or relationships probably because they’re focusing on their careers. Which is totally fine. I hope my virgin friends can meet these girls and be a good couple
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/22 09:42 AM
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I’d argue that shit has gotten worse in the past 10 years though. In my college there are so many average guys with no issues who are virgins with no gf. I don’t understand why they have it so hard. They follow all the rules and have genuinely nice personalities with no cynicism. Meanwhile a lot of the average girls, many of whom are actually mentally unstable and shitty, fuck a frat boy and decide they’re done with men altogether
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/22 06:15 AM
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I think he’s talking about younger age groups, since most of us here are young.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/22 06:12 AM
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Well that’s because of mens lower life expectancy. Husbands die way sooner than wives do.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/22 06:11 AM
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Hahahaha thank you for the kind words bro 😅 The reason I’m not hyping myself up too much is because I don’t work out that often and I realize that my current body type is kinda just luck. On the other hand, guys like you put lots of effort into improving your bodies and pushing yourselves to the next level. I’m not gonna act like I am in great shape, when your profile picture clearly shows me what I could be like if I really put my mind to it. And what you said about Lizzo is totally true. In fa…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/22 06:09 AM
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I think the whole “women have control of their behavior but men don’t” thing is referring to this: Men can have genuinely great personalities, have a good social life, put effort into their body, mind, and career, and approach women with a positive attitude… and STILL end up a virgin with no gf. The guys who follow all the rules are in the same hole as the guys who are assholes. Therefore mens behavior is kinda meaningless in this situation. The few women who actually experience rejection can ea…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/22 06:06 AM
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I’m in okay shape, I have a 6 pack, very little body fat, and defined muscles. My gf thinks I’m muscular even though I’m not, because I have good back muscles and arm muscles to compliment my abs. I can do a lot of push-ups and run a mile, but I could be way more in shape if I tried. That being said, you can be really fit and not get girls. Face still matters to women, you know. Even uglier women who go to the gym will reject guys who are literally the same as them.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/22 05:59 AM
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I see why you’d think that, but I’d probably look at the same couple and say they’re a good match or maybe the girl is less attractive. You should probably think about your biases as a girl, since it’s been shown that women rate other women as very attractive for a variety of social reasons, not because those women are actually attractive. I personally have dated women in the past who were fat, kinda ugly, and had mediocre fashion. The only reason you could say that THEY were settling is if you …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/22 05:56 AM
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It’s mainly the experiences men have to go through all the time, especially average men who never ever appear on women’s radars. When women talk about “men” they’re really talking about really good looking dudes who might not actually have great personalities and probably do whatever they want with women. Or they’re talking about a creepy mentally ill guy on the street. But that leaves like 80% of men out of the equation. Personally, when women talk about their experiences I listen. I’ve always …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/22 05:49 AM
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I don’t think women pair with their looks matches as often as they could. This is because of societal influences like social media telling women that they are “superior” to men. Like that’s all good and empowering, but I fail to see how this would lead to realistic self perception. A lot of girls would rather reject a guy who they think is “pretty cute” because they wanna take their chances with a guy who’s “super hot”. I’ve literally heard drunk women say this. There’s also the factor of: women…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/22 05:40 AM
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I’m pretty surprised to see that almost none of the guys here have ever had sex or encountered a girl who was sexually interested in them, but then again it’s not really surprising. I know tons of guys in real life who would never ever visit this website, never buy into the redpill stuff, never be bitter about rejection, never think about women as different or difficult… but they are also virgins with no gf and basically no experience. Regardless, they are really nice and amazing dudes with so m…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/22 05:32 AM
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I mean yeah they’re not good people. Nobody is saying they are, but we’re also taking into account the experiences that made them that way. Being genuine and respectful doesn’t work for ugly men. Being realistic about standards and working on personality doesn’t work either. Or maybe it does for the lucky ones I don’t know.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/22 05:27 AM
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Why do women always default to “you’re a virgin” when they’re beaten in an argument? It’s really counter productive and basically encourages this idea that women are just holes. It’s like you reward or punish men who disagree with you by telling them they’re worthy or unworthy of sex. I have a gf and I still agree with a lot of the stuff here. You calling it “incel esque” doesn’t really disprove anything
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/22 05:24 AM
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It’s so hard not to do this. Everyone hears the phrase “Put yourself in someone else’s shoes” but I never ever see people do that on here. For most of my life I always approached women with the perspective of “what if I was a woman getting approached by a man”. Unfortunately that never worked for me. Being kind and respectful isn’t a bad thing, but it also doesn’t really help guys get girls. What helps is being good looking, as shallow as that sounds. That’s the advice that worked for me, as an …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/22 05:21 AM
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I agree but that’s so hard. If you take a look at social media, especially Gen Z social media, women actively encourage men to be desperate d “simps” who settle for far less than they deserve. I’ve been in that position too, and it took years for me to realize how bad I was settling and how low my self esteem was. A lot of guys are brainwashed into thinking “I should feel lucky that a girl even notices me, much less likes me, so I’ll take anything I can get” even though these guys are arguably m…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/22 05:00 AM
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I try to tell my friends advice that worked for me, but also advice that would work for them specifically. For example, the dating world is extremely different for a tall white dude vs. a darker skinned Indian dude. I shouldn’t have to elaborate on why. The whole “be yourself” thing can come from a place of genuine concern and care, but it can also be misguided and ignorant.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/22 04:56 AM
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I don’t think it’s true that women LIKE shitty men, but women will ignore shitty behavior from men if he is good looking.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/22 04:53 AM
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The modern standard has been so skewed by the fact that these small procedures have become so common. Men do not give a shit about any of these procedures, unless of course you have a certain type of man in mind. the one that people here call "chad". Please stop deluding yourself into thinking you know what men want. Where are you getting these stats from about the gym. I’m literally not even a fit person or into sports but I go 5 times a week. Even my least fit friends go once or twice a week. …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/22 11:55 PM
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Those men aren't ugly, they're average and probably have good jobs and a solid head on their shoulders. Also married men are older than Gen Z. try again
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/22 11:53 PM
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Yes?? I don't get what the issue is. Actually, the only issue I could see would be me saying that my evidence isn't anecdotal. Saying that something is what it is, isn't an issue. Well anecdotal evidence is useless compared to peer reviewed studies and such. So some men are dumb, some men are smart? Some women are dumb and some women are smart. Sounds like men and women are the same complexity. Sounds like humans are all about the same. Ugh. Are all women on reddit like this? You're not even rea…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/22 11:52 PM
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As an average looking women, gym 5 days a week, look after my health and mental well-being. I get near to no attention from men The fact that you actually take care of yourself puts you above average, for women. The bar is LOW. you're basically living the life of an average man right now. good job. Maybe develop some social skills though. And the average women does work out, at least for my generation. Nope, statistics prove you wrong. She probably wears makeup because assholes like you make her…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/22 11:49 PM
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Also if the average man doesn’t like the average woman he should find someone he does like. Men try to do this but fail. The thing is, men are more understanding and less shallow. I'm more shallow than most men are. I'm picky now. But other men aren't. I feel bad for the men who get rejected by women who are uglier than they are. That's my issue.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/22 11:46 PM
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Please. Please oh please tell me how it’s my fault. It's your fault because women have a massive advantage with this stuff. A lot of men are starved for any positive female attention, or even negative female attention. Women rarely if ever approach men unless they think the man in question is "worth it": this means the man has to be very good looking. Out of all my friends, the one who got approached by women was obviously the tall, white attractive one with a great face. The women who approache…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/22 11:45 PM
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Well the average is literally the mean. It's the composite. And we are talking about what average men and women do. I don't think everyone is the same. But there is evidence that women cluster around the average more than men do. This, I think, scares women a lot. Most women are similar to each other and like to imitate one another subconsciously. They talk, act, and think along the same lines. Men don't do this, so the average man can be unpredictable and therefore scary to women.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/22 11:42 PM
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How are men complex? Even men themselves tell me they are not complex. They openly pride themselves on being not complex. That's because men aren't egotistical and self absorbed. Men put themselves down all the time. Men blame themselves when things go wrong. That's how it works. Women are very simple people because evolutionarily it must be that way. Almost all studies have shown that women cluster around a given mean on a bell curve, whereas men are more represented on the ends. So, men are mo…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/22 11:36 PM
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If I was single I’d want the average guy approaching me? Most women who interested in dating want that??? hahahahaha I wish women like you could experience dating as a man for like a week. It's fucking brutal. The "average woman" is literally obese, has no hobbies, very little intelligence, bad mental health, but somehow manages to see herself as a 10/10 queen who deserves a man with all the things she lacks. It's fucking insane what actually average men have to deal with
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/22 11:27 PM
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You're the exception I think. In my experience women would never ever admit that they want a man who is better than them financially, physically, etc. It's a FACT that many women are attracted to a typical hypermasculine asswipe that they've been raised to oogle over since childhood. Surveys and studies prove this. But women will not admit it, unless they're behind a screen. And even then...
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/22 11:22 PM
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I think women lie about not being shallow/not caring about looks because their main priority is their self image. I'm not sure what you're saying though. also: men go with this lie because it's better for successful men to say "I got my girl because of my personality/charisma that I worked hard on" instead of genetically determined factors. So it's a big ego thing for men to defend women from accusations of being shallow.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/22 11:15 PM
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You realize Gen Z women don't think like this right? you're clearly a different demographic entirely
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/22 11:11 PM
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You're not ignored, it's just that you wouldn't want an average guy approaching you. Maybe you're an exception, but women make it very clear that they are insulted by average looking men with confidence who think they can talk to them. So most normal and respectful men are basically incentivized to stay away from women in most cases and hope for the best
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/22 11:10 PM
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But men aren't more individualistic. There's no evidence of that. There is a lot of evidence, are you even reading? You just want to believe that to feel superior. I never said being more individualistic was better. I actually envy how women can live in their own little bubble without understanding the complexity of the world. Resisting conformity as a man would be doing something like crying at work when a coworker is mean to you. And you would NEVER do that. Because you're just as driven by co…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/22 11:08 PM
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Women seem to me as much more complex. But I'm not gonna give them a gold star for it. This is called female solipsism. This is the reason why women cannot understand men at all, but are delusional and think they can. I gave you hard evidence that supports the hypothesis of women being more of a hivemind, and you give me anecdotal evidence that means jack shit. You're also confusing neuroticism with complexity. Women are much more neurotic than men, less stable, but still more predictable.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/22 11:04 PM
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Why are they just google images and 2012 macros, and not actual articles like before? Why isn't there a bunch of male journalists getting paid to write about how women's vaginas smell bad? Why don't men use "your vagina stinks" as an argument in online spaces? Women do all of these things.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/22 03:25 AM
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the variability hypothesis is extremely relevant. It says that women are more likely to be similar to each other, meaning they will more likely think the same way and behave as a hivemind. You're actually slow as fuck if you think your papers said ANYTHING related to your argument. You cited one paper where adolescent boys are more likely to engage in risk based behavior, but that has nothing to do with peer influence when you think about hormonal and physiological factors. Men would engage in t…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/22 03:24 AM
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Yeah I'm sure some men have that issue, but anyone can make a meme out of anything. It's extremely disingenuous to imply that there is a "problem" of men not washing their asses. I've met several women who straight up don't shower on a daily basis. Their excuses usually involve not wanting to wash their hair, as if shower caps don't exist. But do we see memes about women being unhygienic? No, because even if it was widespread, men wouldn't complain. The thing is, men don't see a need to take jab…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/22 03:18 AM
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It's not meant to be an insult in my opinion. I honestly think women are more of a hivemind than men are. It's not even about dating or whatever, it's every single aspect of life. Women aren't different from each other and few of them WANT to be different. Women actually love to talk about how unique they are because deep down they know they're basic. Any guy who's talked to Gen Z women knows this. Social media is simply making it easier for women to copy each other. And that's what they do. It'…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/22 03:10 AM
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There is a lot of psychological and biological evidence that shows a certain trend: Women show less variance to one another than men do. Men are less likely than women to conform to social trends. Men are less likely to change their beliefs because someone told them to. Even when there are social incentives against it, men will continue being deviant in actions and words. There are so many ways that men could conform and be like a hivemind, but they don't, and this is a big reason why men are mo…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/22 03:07 AM
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Men are different you dolt. There is a lot of psychological and biological evidence that shows a certain trend: Women show less variance to one another than men do. Men are less likely than women to conform to social trends. Men are less likely to change their beliefs because someone told them to. Even when there are social incentives against it, men will continue being deviant in actions and words. There are so many ways that men could conform and be like a hivemind, but they don't, and this is…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/22 03:07 AM
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Are you seriously responding to data with a personal anecdote?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/22 03:04 AM
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Men allow women to be shallow and vapid. We give attention to women who are uglier, dumber, and less socially able than us. Why? Because we like sex too much. We let women use their vaginas to inflate their own egos. It's not like women would have any power without men literally handing it to them. There are enough guys out here who are willing to settle very hard for garbage women, and that's what allowed women to act the way they do. And thanks for proving the point of every single "redpiller"…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/22 03:01 AM
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So? He's doing to his poor wife what a lot of women do to men. She should just leave him if she doesn't like it. That's what people tell men to do after all.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/22 02:59 AM
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Yeah, it's called seeing the world for what it is. Even the minority of women who actually go out and do shit with their lives are still shallow and brainless. They can't exist without social validation 24/7 and see themselves as superior to everyone who isn't at "their level". You are a virgin and you talk like one
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/22 02:59 AM
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All of them "quote" memes and tiktoks LOL are you seriously using a google search as "evidence"? anything can be a meme or a widely held belief even if it's wrong. Do you think black people are inherently more likely to commit crime? Because I can find a lot of articles that "aren't a meme" if I google "why do black people commit more crime"
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/22 02:58 AM
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I do, you don't. Go outside
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/22 02:56 AM
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So 62% of men outearn their wives? Must be so easy for men to find successful wealthy women
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/22 06:47 PM
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This is a bit fallacious. I have a gf who I am happy with. She does NOT have a lot of the problems that most women possess. But I still agree with virtually all the "redpill" stuff here because the vast majority of women are kinda shit compared to my gf
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/22 06:46 PM
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The new view is men and women support themselves. you have not talked to Gen Z women
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/22 06:44 PM
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What a beast. Maybe we can get more men doing this shit, and finally level the playing field.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/22 06:42 PM
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cooking, cleaning, childcare, and the like million other things that are usually considered to be women's jobs When women are allowed to do things instead of these jobs, they always seem to pick teacher, nurse, and the like. At best, they'll pick journalist or writer.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/22 06:41 PM
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In any case, it's circular logic and a non sequitur to make the claim of "men are just over valuing their own looks". We have actual data that suggests women are the ones who do this, not men.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/22 06:38 PM
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If you think men and women are the same and the only difference is body parts, you NEED to talk to women and have sex. Like that's extremely concerning and you might have autism. I haven't thought that way since I was a child.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/22 06:30 PM
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Nah, they're just good looking and women are very bad at reading men.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/22 06:29 PM
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it seems like you're just overestimating how attractive you are. OP literally predicted that this would be your response. You absolute NPC bot
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/22 06:28 PM
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Most women are single, but can hook up with much much more attractive men sometimes if they want to. The top 10% of men DO find 90% of women attractive, and will fuck them a few times. But those men don't care about those women, and so women base their entire view of men off of these top 10%
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/22 06:26 PM
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That is the problem. and conversations like this will hopefully cause men to wake up and stop letting women be so picky. The solution is for men to become 100x more shallow and basically fight fire with fire
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/22 06:24 PM
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This is the most virgin shit I've ever read in my life. you people are actually NPC bots hahahahahahahahaha
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/22 06:22 PM
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Exactly this. Very related is women's taste or preference in men. Because women think they "know" men, they also think that they are good at screening for good men. Thus, women believe that they have great taste in men and do not make mistakes when picking men. Men openly admit that they make mistakes when picking women and actually take responsibility for women's pitfalls. For example "don't stick your dick in crazy" basically tells men "YOU need to look out for batshit crazy women" but does no…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/22 06:21 PM
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Dude I go to a large public university. the girls here are supposed to be smarter than average. My selection bias is extremely forgiving if anything, there are tons of clubs here too, but of course men dominate them. Go outside more.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/22 06:15 PM
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Men care about approval from others as much as women care about security Absolutely wrong. Wow you really don't know anything about men hahahaha Men actually don't care about approval, to the point where it's bad. Men will literally care so little about approval that it gets them in trouble at work, school, with women, etc. If men cared as much about approval as women, we would see a huge reduction in gross male behavior. We would see men conform a lot more to social norms like women do. Also me…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/22 06:14 PM
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Best answer. There are SOOOOO many women who say "no" and actually expect men to ignore it. It's fucking mental. These women will (obviously) stay quiet when discussions about consent come up, but they are a large minority or dare I say a majority
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/22 06:11 PM
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True, men are too horny for their own good. It's interesting how the men who weren't horny or didn't care about getting women ended up being the smartest and most productive people in human history.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/22 06:09 PM
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That's misleading. Beauty trends ≠ what men find attractive It might be "in" right now to look like Kim K, but men do not give a FUCK if their gf looks like Kim K or not as long as she doesn't cheat and puts effort into things. Of course men might see the bigger ass as a plus, but men do not shape their dating pool based on such shallow standards. Women, however, do this. It's 100% women who push the Kim K beauty standard on each other, or the anorexia body type, or whatever. Hence why women wil…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/22 06:08 PM
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Yet women don't seem to have anywhere as much variance in a hat they like. :/ This is supported by a wealth of statistical data. It's called the Variability Hypothesis: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Variability\_hypothesis#:\~:text=The%20variability%20hypothesis%2C%20also%20known,in%20traits%20than%20females%20do.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/22 06:05 PM
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Nah, women are pickier and less open to different types of men. This has been proven constantly for the past 20+ years in sociological studies and surveys. Women as a whole have more stringent height requirements, race requirements, facial feature requirements, personality requirements, and income requirements. Women with college degrees refuse to marry men who have less education, whereas men have no issue doing the same. Men also date poorer women while women refuse to date poorer men, statist…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/22 06:04 PM
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Of course the best comment gets hidden lol
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/22 05:59 PM
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i am someone with a tiny body count by choice - so I want someone with a equally low-ish body count who did it by choice, because to me it demonstrates that they have similar values when it comes to sexual activity. You just described 99% of men who want women with low body counts
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/22 05:58 PM
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It's largely a meme. Very very few people don't wash themselves properly. Women have very little to use against men on the internet and social media, so they picked this unwashed butt thing and ran with it.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/22 05:57 PM
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it’s still nice to see some external validation This is totally contradictory to "beauty is in the eye of the beholder" LOL you thought you could sneak in in there. External validation 100% means that beauty has a largely objective component. You can't have it both ways. Thanks for letting that one slip LOL
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/22 05:55 PM
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You're a statistical anomaly. Most Gen Z women do not have hobbies outside of tiktok and whatnot.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/22 02:03 AM
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This is a pretty male perspective of things. You think that being brutally rejected dozens of times a month by women isn't damaging, yet women would undoubtedly see it as a social justice issue if they had to do the same thing. We literally have women getting PhD's in gender studies because fat women aren't getting the men they want on Tinder. Why the double standard? Why are you so ready to shit on men?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/22 02:02 AM
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For anyone in this thread: These women at the top are very very rare in real life. Few women have consistently high sex drives and most who do are pretty off and have other things going on.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/22 01:58 AM
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I mean you'll never understand how it feels to see the opposite gender as always attractive. Even if ugly gross women catcalled men, the men would probably still feel sorta good about it. It's better than being ignored and essentially dying alone
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/22 01:56 AM
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It's almost like most women have very low sex drives and say nothing on the internet, and a minority of women with "high" sex drives love to throw tantrums when the topic comes up. Hence why so many young men assume women are horny people until they actually start talking to girls irl
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/22 01:54 AM
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I think women still have it really good though. In my experience, a young woman can be obese, a bad person, have no social skills, no real hobbies, and basically have nothing going for her, but still get a boyfriend who is superior to her in every aspect. It really comes down to young men having lower self esteems than before, hence why fat women actually have a chance to fuck and even date while short/medium ugly men do not. You have to realize that women are literally in their own bubbles. The…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/22 01:52 AM
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You're a 27 year old who seems to be very disconnected from reality, and in his own bubble. That's cool. But any Gen Z guy will obviously disagree with what you're saying. As a college student in a happy relationship, with tons of friends who interact with Gen Z girls, you are simply wrong. Personality means jack shit. That's the truth. Men deluded themselves into thinking personality mattered back in the day when men had all the control. But nowadays it's women who have the control. And women c…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/22 09:01 PM
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Don't confuse getting laid with having a relationship. I thought OP was talking about getting laid, and the guy I was replying to was talking about relationships (because he brought up pregnancy). ​ If a woman is choosing a partner personality is always the number one selection filter. It's always then followed by skills, wemon who want long term relationships want a guy who can be financially successful. And looks is last. From experience, I disagree. I've never ever been in a relationship wher…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/22 08:56 PM
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As a man, yes it matters to me. I have some dignity lol. With my current gf, I can tell I'm the best sex she's had. One, because she hasn't fucked 10+ guys and become basically desensitized to sex like a lot of girls my age do. And two, because she has told me that our sex life is perfect. She also told me that she didn't enjoy having sex with anyone who wasn't her bf, and that her last relationship was bad. So I'm in a good place. The women who act like it doesn't matter are usually women who h…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/22 08:50 PM
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If you’re a 7-9 man and having trouble getting women, you have other issues. Did you even read his post? Holy shit. He said that 7-9 men are getting shittier women than they should, not that they aren't getting ANY women. Which is true. It's not common that a man can get with a woman actually at his level in terms of intelligence, fitness, personality, social skills, looks, and so on. Usually, men have to settle because women don't really do much to improve themselves. And the women who do impro…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/22 08:42 PM
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That's not a real answer at all. I have a gf I'm happy with and I still agree with everything OP said. What's your response now?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/22 08:33 PM
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I disagree with you, I don't think a man's resources means anything anymore, especially in the minds of young women who are Gen Z (my age). I notice that women, even when discouraged from doing so, value their own looks more than anything else. Women seem to be fixated on appearance and trivial things like that despite our best efforts to get away from it. They project this onto men, and now I notice that a man's only actual asset is his looks and genetics. Which means nothing as women base thei…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/22 08:33 PM
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if male birth control is available it will be almost definite that some couples will prefer the guy to be on the birth control Sure, but you realize how dumb it would be right? As it is, fewer men are having sex each year, much less casual sex with multiple partners. That's reserved for a few men. And as long as condoms are a thing, I doubt a guy who has a lucky hookup every month or so will go on male birth control which might not even work right. Even in a relationship, if male birth control d…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/22 08:28 PM
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But it’s easy for them, right? The cognitive dissonance is too much lol do you know what that word even means? You didn't use it right. How does this mindset make it easy for a fat girl? She gets the reward of a relationship with a man that’s not really attracted to her? Dafuq? Well not every guy is like me. Most men will settle for a fat ugly bitch without realizing that's what he's doing. And you know, fat women don't HAVE to be fat. They could, idk, engage in SELF IMPROVEMENT like 90% of men …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/22 06:27 PM
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Not to mention making baseless generalizations of women, undermining lack of education and poverty to tell women we like “drug dealers” and “rapists”? Women do this on their own, even girls from good homes do this. Because women are women. This type of mindset doesn’t lead to a healthy relationship. And it definitely doesn’t make you LTR material unless you’re choosing a woman with no self-respect. You wouldn't know anything about LTR you femcel hahahahaha please don't come at anyone on here bec…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/22 06:23 PM
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Birth control for men so far has been a disaster. This is also because of how the biology works for both sexes. You should take a woman's health class. ALL the women who regularly take birth control and suffer negative side affects are either swallowing a pill wrong or just being stupid? there are literally dozens of birth control brands. I know at least 5 girls in my life who take birth control just to improve period cramps, mood swings, acne, and all of that. Almost every single woman I've eve…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/22 06:21 PM
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You could get a 1/10 fat woman as a broke ugly man and she’d probably honestly use her money to support you. Women usually never do this. So that's exceptional. The thing is though what men view as a 1/10 ugly fat woman and what’s actually a 1/10 fat woman is different. Nah, men would consider the first one to be like 3/10. Looks like she's actually trying to get fit. They’re basic things No they're not. None of those things are basic. I would honestly end my life if I was forced to do a single …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/22 06:19 PM
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Men tend to treat women like queens because there's a lot of social pressure to do so. For example, men are not allowed to get upset with their girlfriends for a lot of normal things. At least younger men. It's a pretty cucked situation
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/22 06:17 PM
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I constantly hear this from men who tell me they would never want a fatty themselves. Well I used to date fat bitches but it took me a few years to realize how disgusting it was and how bad I was settling. I was brainwashed by social media into thinking that I should lower my standards, when in reality I was contributing to the problem of men being too lenient. So I am living proof that men will settle for ugly women unwittingly, and I was just lucky enough to get out of that trap. No. It’s not …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/22 10:09 PM
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Not caring about women isn't the end goal, but it's a necessary step in my opinion. Women should be cared about in terms of their safety and ability to reproduce, and if they want to actually contribute to society in meaningful ways, then that too. But as it stands now, young women (gen z) are pretty useless and dumb, have no real direction in life, little to no accountability for their actions, and basically lack the ability to think independently of other women around them. This mostly applies…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/22 10:04 PM
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How? Ugly women can get laid or get a bf pretty easily just by putting their egos aside and doing the bare minimum. For example, a fatty can get with a fit, average looking guy who doesn't know any better as long as she is genuinely nice and doesn't cheat on him. Men are too lenient with looks, a woman doesn't have to be as attractive as the man because society always tells women they are the prettier ones
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/22 09:59 PM
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Theres a lot of conversation on how men wouldn’t date a girl who’d had a threesomes previously as they couldnt deal with that. But I wonder is that because these men have never had that experience? I think this is definitely it. Men who have threesomes, a high body count, etc are RARELY the ones who expect women to be chaste and pure. Those men are also the ones who are more attractive to women, have better genetics and facial features, are naturally taller and stronger, more hypermasculine, etc…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/22 09:55 PM
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It sounds like you're projecting the way women think (egotism, neuroticism, etc) onto men
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/22 09:49 PM
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If men didn't care about women or female validation, humans would arguably be more advanced and technologically capable. It's not really a surprise that the smartest men in history were either uninterested in women or straight up gay. Most of the intelligent men in royal courts were eunuchs, castrated to remove sex drive. Even in the modern world, the most intelligent men are those who have the discipline and foresight to ignore women and focus on shit that actually matters. If men simply stoppe…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/22 09:45 PM
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Birth control is actually 99.9% effective if taken daily at the same time. Birth control also cleans up acne, takes away period cramps, and improves mood in women. The fact that women will deny this or act stupid about the benefits of birth control is just proof that men would actually take advantage of this if given the chance. Male birth control is proven to lead to suicide in a frighteningly large minority of men and is barely effective. It does not even control acne, weight, or balding.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/22 09:41 PM
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This is one of the most brainless things I've ever read. You shouldn't have spent the time and energy writing this LOL
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/22 09:39 PM
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Just get a job or 2, get hair implants, plastic surgery, get your teeth done, style consultation, workout whatever you need to be more attractive and not poor. That's insane to expect of ANYONE, regardless of gender. In no world do you see a woman doing this type of shit just to be appealing to a 1/10 ugly fat man. Yet that's the reality you seem to support for men. Spend hundreds of thousands of dollars and countless years on over the top body modification for a chance to be seen as a human bei…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/22 09:35 PM
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The issue here can be touched on by mentioning that there was a year when 30% of all American women in their 20s were living in NYC. holy shit
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/22 07:17 PM
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I disagree. Although this sub is very negative at times I think the message is here are very useful for young men who are confused in the dating world. For example I was brought up to think that if I just followed the rules and did everything that woman told me to do, I would end up with a girlfriend who was at my level. The reality, is not this. This sub is a response to the recent changes in the relationship and dating world that has emerged from a generation of social media and internet. If m…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/22 07:16 PM
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And men can easily not be poor and ugly. not really? Men can't wear makeup to the level women can and still get laid, and clothes/grooming only gets you so far. Also getting rich is extremely hard if you're poor and had a bad upbringing. You're definitely arguing in bad faith here, there's no way you actually believe that shit
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/22 07:08 PM
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Splitting hairs here, never said it was an overall win but it does improve chances. My issue is, it sometimes doesn't make a difference. the way women are, if a guy is short and ugly enough, even having the perfect body won't be enough for a woman to be physically attracted to him. Seems unfair. Working out will affect some of these, surgery, grooming and lifestyle will affect the others. No one has complete control over their looks (yes this includes women) but my main point was that grooming c…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/22 06:56 AM
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Ok...so how is this womens fault? Women don't pick men based on the things you assume. Women pick men based on genetic things that are mostly out of their control. Also if this were true gym culture wouldnt be pushed or work as much for men as it does (even the redpill confirms this). This is fair. I think going to the gym could help a bit, but it's not an automatic win. Women are caring less and less about shit that men actually have control over, and more about things like facial features, bod…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/22 09:20 PM
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The thing is women can easily not be fat and ugly, and even if they are they can get a fat and ugly man who fits them. But women don't want a guy at their level, they want a guy better than them. And it actually works. I'm proof of this.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/22 09:15 PM
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Also if women are more likely than men to seek help for their mental issues, then why are women still the most mentally ill by far? Why are relationships usually consisting of mentally ill women and normal men?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/22 12:43 AM
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Men aren’t and most definitely need therapy for long term issues Women use men as their therapy all the time, and we just accept it as normal and okay. It's very rare for a man to snap at a crying woman and tell her "what the fuck are you doing, do to therapy you whiny baby". Again this is because patriarchal values of the past prevented this. Women are still seen as weak and not responsible for their actions, and women continue to use this to their advantage. Men on the other hand are not even …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/22 12:29 AM
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In my opinion, Scottie is a rich guy with his shit together, and he has the means to find a good woman who isn't like 80-90% of girls who we would have to deal with on tinder or in real life. Being an athlete means you can get access to way more girls, and that means you can select for the best wife material. I happen to be with a gf who is very okay with me expressing emotions, but I know from experience that most girls are not like her.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/22 12:25 AM
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Nah, I've seen "being a mommy" refer to any type of emotional support given to men. Women see emotional men as weak, unattractive, and full of "baggage". While women are allowed to have mental breakdowns, horrible emotional instability, and straight up personality disorders, men are expected to be level headed and calm at all times. Part of this has its roots in patriarchal discourse of the past, but for the past 20 years I've noticed women are intentionally retaining certain aspects of the patr…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/22 12:17 AM
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Look at OP's replies to other men in this thread. she wants redpill men to admit that they're looking for women who remind them of their mother, or that redpill men have horrible relationships with their mothers.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/22 12:12 AM
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I love my mom so much. She is very important to me. And honestly, she might actually agree with some of the stuff on here. My mother is FAR more hard working, honest, mentally stable, and grounded than the vast majority of gen Z women my age. The mentality she has towards life is something given to her by her parents, who were also very hard working and honest people who have their priorities straight. Unlike most women, my mom is not materialistic and vapid. She doesn't care for shopping, doesn…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/22 12:07 AM
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If you’re a man who subscribes to this belief, do you yourself have any tattoos? Why or why not? Of course not. I don't think they're attractive on myself and they're almost always unattractive on women. Most people get shit tattoos. Also I want to make a point here: Men RARELY judge women or label red flags unless those men also live their life according to the same principle. For example, men who expect women to be in shape, not fat, not lazy, are often athletic and passionate about fitness. M…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/22 12:03 AM
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You are what you can get I disagree. Men often settle for women who are far far below them because those men aren't aware of their actual potential. Women like making men feel ugly and worthless because men will settle for shittier women on average. For example, I used to date ugly girls. Fat girls, not nearly as fit or good looking as me. Bad social skills, bad mental health, etc. Does that mean I was that way? Nope, I wasn't. I was better than them and it took me months or even years to realiz…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/22 11:59 PM
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but you aren’t considering that looks aren’t the only thing that make you attractive. I wish women could step in a man's shoes for a month and try to date women. Personality is so fucking useless these days as a man unless you are good looking too
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/22 11:56 PM
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Yes it is, you sound like a virgin. When I was younger, I'd have sex with ugly bitches all the time. I didn't think about how much better looking I was because I didn't realize it. Men never know their own worth until they actually have experience with women and realize how good they can have it. 18 year old me was happy to have any fatty uggo give me sex. Now, I have much higher standards, and I realize that the girls in the past were not in my league. they were below. And looking at them now, …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/22 11:55 PM
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So why can’t men change to accommodate the female gaze if they want to attract women? It's based on genetics, not something you can actually work on. I had the same exact thought as you when I was 16. And I spent years listening to women and what they had to say, only to lose every single time. Only when I stopped caring about women's opinions and just listening to "problematic" men who actually fucked around, I began seeing success.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/22 11:52 PM
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Easily applies to women. A lot of girls think they're attractive because women aren't honest with themselves or each other, and men will settle down for sex
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/22 11:47 PM
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No they don't? The average guy literally doesn't care what his gf looks like as long as she isn't extremely obese, extremely malnourished, and has a basic level of hygiene and mental stability. I've seen countless men with fat ugly women, but I have NEVER EVER seen a fit girl with a fat ugly guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/22 11:47 PM
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He's right. You're basically just doing mental gymnastics and circular logic. It's already been established that men who groom themselves and all that aren't really at an advantage compared to men who are born naturally good looking and hyper masculine. You act as if women are rational when it comes to how they pick men, when this is proven wrong time and time again.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/22 11:45 PM
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Men settle a lot harder than women do, though. A lot of the stuff that men want in a woman is not a fantasy, it's actually the bare minimum. A lot of the stuff that women want in a man is extremely influenced by movies, tv shows, tiktok, social media, etc. It's no wonder that even in our day and age men are still better than the women they're with, whether it's physical fitness, mental stability, hobbies and interests, emotions, etc
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/22 11:43 PM
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Women seem to have evolved to be more beautiful, while men didn't. This is totally subjective though. A more accurate statement is: "Men evolved to see a wider variety of women as attractive, while women evolved to see a smaller portion of men as attractive" Gay men rate other men pretty highly across the board, while straight and lesbian women still pickier than gay men
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/22 11:40 PM
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Works both ways. If you exercise sarcasm and someone else doesn't pick up on it, you look like a monster. Only if you're a guy. the bar is way lower for women's social skills
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/22 11:37 PM
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"obviously joking" plausible deniability
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/22 11:34 PM
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"It's just a joke" classic case of plausible deniability
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/22 11:34 PM
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All the people saying "the women are joking HURRR DURRR" have no idea how this shit works. Women can "joke" about things and still believe in them. Honestly, if millions of young women repeatedly "joke" about how they prefer impulsive, disrespectful, hyper masculine men for several years on social media, you start to think it's not just a joke. Especially when you see dozens of real life examples in college campuses of shitty men getting a lot of girls, while normal respectful guys get nothing. …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/22 11:28 PM
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Why on Earth would women show disgust at fields like science and engineering? I see it on twitter and titkok. Women act like STEM is useless and overrated. Also, again with the circular logic. Women won't work in fields that are already male dominated? That doesn't make sense. Given 10+ years of social media feminism and yaaassss queen culture, why aren't women collectively just getting jobs in those fields. Especially with diversity quotas, STEM is BEGGING for women to join.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/22 07:10 PM
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I think the patriarchy exists at different levels in different places. And in places that have been very anti patriarchy for several decades, we still don’t see women in STEM. That makes me think women are staying away from those field because they want to. Not because men are forcing them out. Also I see some women show a disgust or condescending attitude towards construction, engineering, science, etc
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/22 06:46 AM
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Are you kidding me? Girls exclusively talk about sex and related topics on tiktok and Twitter, except it’s never about how good sex is. It’s usually something related to attention whoring or a complaint about men. Like I said, women have a lot of freedom to be sexual and fuck whoever they want. But when given the chance to do so, women often forgo sex with men in their league. There are reasons for this and none of them are rational
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/22 06:44 AM
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“A lot of women” is a massive overstatement, because those women are actually a tiny portion of the total. I’ve found women who are fine with me being Indian and whatnot, but I had to look. It wasn’t easy, and especially on dating apps I realized that ugly girls would automatically gravitate towards me because they felt like they had better chances with a decent looking Indian guy compared to a decent looking white guy
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/22 06:41 AM
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I guess it’s different in Australia. Immigrants and minorities have different experiences depending on the country. I’m speaking from experience as an Indian American. There are some examples of Indians and Asians staying within their own groups and finding a girl but this is becoming less common in the US. Usually only those with traditional parents or some sort of ties with their home country will be able to find women of their own race who are interested in them. I was lucky enough to hook up…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/22 06:39 AM
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That's circular logic. Basically, we can never know whether women truly enjoy these professions at similar levels as men, or if they are totally influenced by "sexist social norms" and the like. How would we test it? Think about it: If I tell you that gender equality is quite strong in some parts of the world, and workplaces there have virtually no sexism compared to the US, and yet there are disproportionately female and male dominated fields that continue to exist, you can always reply "well a…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/22 03:57 AM
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This is incredibly well written wow
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/22 03:48 AM
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That's not what OP was saying. He's arguing that there is a pay gap on average and a disparity in female representation for certain jobs because women choose not to behave like men do. I kinda agree. In scandinavian countries, gender equality is far greater than in the US in terms of equal opportunity, gender quotas for companies, and so on. And still, women prefer to choose certain jobs over others despite a lot of encouragement to get into STEM and whatnot. Obviously we have to wait and see a …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/22 03:46 AM
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Yeah, my argument is that men aren't pulling all of the women that they CAN. Men are led to believe that they should just take whatever they can get. I used to think like that. But I realized that I'm a good looking dude, in shape, I do well in school, have a lot of friends, etc. Just because I pulled fat, ugly women in the past, it doesn't mean that was my ACTUAL league. In reality, I was settling for ugly women. The proof is that I am now with a gf who is much hotter than the girls I was with …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/22 11:39 PM
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I mean I'm sorta agreeing with him. Ignore the number scale then, I don't need it. My point is: Men don't know how attractive they really are because men get fewer chances to pull women who are actually in their league. Most men end up with uglier women early on, by chance, and say "well this is good enough, since I'm a shitty man I deserve nothing more". These men assume, incorrectly, that these women are their looksmatches. It happened to me, so I know it happens to a lot of dudes. I see decen…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/22 10:46 PM
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His girlfriend is hot as hell because he puts effort into his appearance and has an interesting personality, plays an instrument, and does well in school. Sounds like he's just a really good looking white guy. Skinny white boys are totally in right now, thanks to timothee whatever and tom holland. It's not a huge win for men just because a certain niche type of white men are getting laid more often than before. Face >> height >> body type >> personality. I hate that this is the reality, but it i…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/22 10:36 PM
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I kinda agree with this. In the past, I noticed that a lot of the girls who liked me were fat and uglier than me. I was annoyed by this. Then I realized, at the end of the day it's ME. I am the one who is settling again and again for these subpar women. Why? Because mainstream discourse about gender and sex, mostly on social media, conditioned me to think that I deserve nothing more than a mediocre woman who has nothing to offer besides her loose vagina and bland personality. In a similar way, a…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/22 10:17 PM
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This is actually a well known concept called the variability hypothesis. Women are clustered around a mean, while men are more varied and spread out. What this tells us is that men are more likely to be much better or much worse than the average male. Whereas women are not going to be much better or worse than the average woman. So, if the average woman is a soulless, dishonest, egomaniac who also hates herself deep down and is addicted to social media, most women will follow suit. If the averag…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/22 10:13 PM
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There are way more excellent women than there are excellent men. It does not even compare. Not at all. Women are rarely excellent because they don't have to be. A lot of women in sororities for example are horrible people to each other and to men. But America as a whole basically ignores this fact. Not only do sorority girls harm themselves and other women, they enable frat boys to be rapists and allow them to do horrible things with no consequences. Honestly, living with women proved to me that…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/22 10:10 PM
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I agree 100% with this. Women who say men are trash etc etc are usually bad people who don't deserve the man they want. These women are neurotic and tend to have nothing going for themselves. Sure they can have sex with a chad, which they do at first, but that makes them feel gross and empty. The men who shit on women come from all walks of life. Hell, I have a body count of 10+ and a gf who I love a lot, and I still agree with a lot of the "redpill" stuff here
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/22 10:07 PM
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You're sort of right and sort of wrong. Here's the nuance you're missing: A lot of men don't know their own worth. Men think they're 2/10 uggos simply because most women have inflated egos and can get the (Sexual) attention of some frat boy type of dude pretty easily. Are these women impressive in any way? Nope. Are they that pretty? Nah. But they have vaginas, so this makes them inherently valuable. Men who are decent looking and have their life together won't always have the experiences that p…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/22 10:04 PM
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Average woman intelligence LOL
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/22 09:57 PM
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so why can only super hot men be pleasing to look at? Ask women, not me. I wish it wasn't like that. Honestly I just disagree with this idea only talk muscular men get laid, I don’t like muscular men and I don’t think height is a damning quality even if I do have preferences Men who aren't tall and muscular and naturally good looking can get laid too, but it's a lot rarer. Usually, men have to be at least 5'9 or so, and have a really nice face. Being white helps a lot too. That's just how women …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/22 09:54 PM
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Yeah I'm not saying all women hate makeup on men, or that women don't think it can ever be attractive. I know women see gays like james charles wearing makeup and eat that shit up, mainly because it subverts masculinity and promotes feminine expression. But do these women want to fuck james charles? Absolutely not, at least the vast majority of them do not. Women can find a man's makeup attractive and say that "he slayed" or whatever but not feel any sexual attraction to that man. I know there a…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/22 08:49 PM
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Just because they are pickier Bout who is worth sexing up doesn't mean they like sex less. It literally does though. If women liked sex for the sake of sex, they would not require their sex partner to be a certain height, race, and so on. If women just wanted sex because they enjoyed it, they would fuck any man who came their way, just like men already do.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/22 08:45 PM
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How am I projecting? I'm nothing like you, and I have nothing in common with the average girl who fucks around and then regrets it later
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/22 08:43 PM
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I mean you're right about women getting as much sex as they want, while men don't get sex in most cases. But you have to realize that this reality only exists because women want sex less than men do. Studies on LGBTQ relationships show that gay men fuck more than lesbian women. this makes sense. Women don't really like sex like we do
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/22 08:31 PM
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NOBODY talks about this. I'm an Indian guy, dark skin, about 5'10. I have a gf now but I'll never forget how it was to be single. The disrespect I received from women was actually awful. Women are extremely racist (or at the very least very picky about race) when it comes to men. Black men, Asian men, Indian men, hispanic men, etc can all confirm.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/22 07:57 PM
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Women don't like sex nearly as much as men do. That's a fact, only a virgin or an idiot would disagree
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/22 07:52 PM
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Not the creeps. Not the orbiters. Not the men who pretend to be friends just to get closer. Plenty of women online encourage orbiter-like behavior when they get money out of it. This has snowballed into an entire online culture called "findom" or financial domination where men give women money for existing. In addition, like OP said there are a lot of ramifications that go beyond online spaces.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/22 07:50 PM
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Sleeping with so many men has basically reduced sex to a meaningless activity that seriously skews your perception of the opposite gender and makes it harder for you to form real bonds down the road. I can definitely see signs of this already. Looking at your post history, you're clearly a bitter woman who spends a lot of time and effort hating on men. That doesn't surprise me. The only women who talk and think like you are the ones who slept with tons of shitty assholes (chads or whatever) or t…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/22 07:48 PM
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If women were willing to fuck men who wore makeup, literally so many men would be doing it. Most bisexual men know from experience that women don't like makeup on men in a sexual way, unless that man is already 6 feet all, ripped, and handsome without the makeup. With men, you can wear makeup or whatever and still get laid because it's men
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/22 07:44 PM
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Yeah but you're still irreparable
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/22 07:37 AM
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Laid by other men yes
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/22 07:26 AM
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Then that's up to women. Men don't mind having sex FOR THE SAKE OF SEX while women need strings attached, extra benefits, etc. You're literally moving the goal posts bud
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/22 05:44 PM
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The percentage of guys who can "get a gf and have a healthy relationshi" is waaaay higher than the percentage of guys that are getting laid rn. That's true, but those girlfriends will almost always be uglier and worse in personality than the guys. I know guys who are virgins, despite being athletic, smart, and good people overall. They could get a gf right now but she would most likely be below their league
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/22 05:41 PM
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People here want men to get fit and skilled to wife up socially awkward and fat women lol. I have literally been through this in real life several times. It's fucking BS Few women actually understand how low tier most women are compared to most men. If you grow up hearing "men are trash" etc etc all the time you start holding men to high standards and women to low standards. That's what's happening right now
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/22 05:39 PM
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Can't disagree with that! My mom always says you need love, trust, and respect. Basically the same thing as what you said
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/22 05:33 PM
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I don't know if it's a correlation or causation, but I wouldn't be surprised if it was the latter. In my anecdotal experience, girls who have a high body count are usually worse in terms of personality and have problems with long term relationships. That's just me though
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/22 05:32 PM
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That makes no sense, also the majority of women are literally doing the bare minimum at all times. Men could never get away with not working out, having few friends, being neurotic, mood swings, expecting a higher income, and so on.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/22 06:04 AM
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What a STUPID comment lol Men would gladly take what you just said, especially over no sex at all. That's what you're dealing with here. Not the top whatever % of men who are actually hooking up with women often. Those men are usually more attractive than the women they fuck, which is why they can get away with treating yall like hoes and just moving on to the next. Women do not interact with 80% of men, they ignore most men and hyperfocus on men who are objectively more attractive than they are…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/22 06:01 AM
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I agree with this. Women will always want a guy who's at least 10% better than her at almost everything in life. Income, personality, stability, social life, etc
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/22 05:56 AM
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Most guys are pretty normal and have shit going for them. They are calm collected people who focus on their work/school, follow the rules, and try to be nice to everyone. These are also the people who do a lot of shitty/boring/difficult jobs that nobody likes thinking about. The thing is, their lives aren't insane, filled with vacations, drama, spontaneity, and other shit pulled off of Tiktok and Instagram. It's normal and average, which most women seem to think isn't good enough. As if they are…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/22 05:53 AM
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You realize men have to deal with this shit way worse than women do right? Everything you said applies more to men trying to find a normal decent women who isn't a neurotic crazy gold digging liar who doesn't even know what she wants? You act like your standards are reasonable, but so does every woman. And yet we all know that girls will go for guys who are way out of their league.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/22 05:49 AM
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I think that's hilarious, I have a gf and tons of friends who I love and appreciate. And I agree with almost all the stuff said by men in this sub. Some of my friends say the same things about girls, except they probably don't use reddit at all. It's really a fact that men have a shit dating pool nowadays because we have been telling women to raise their standards for like 20 years now. Mostly through media
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/22 05:45 AM
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I'm attracted to men who I say are too good for me. One thing women don't realize is that the men they are attracted to ARE often too good for those women. After dating 4-5 girls in college, I realized that I could NEVER behave like women do. Most girls my age are not solid, stable people. They are nominally making progress in life but the truth is they aren't gonna make much money, if at all, out of college. Many women in America are out of shape, pretty fat, with little to no desire to exercis…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/22 05:41 AM
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reddit women and twitter women have horrible taste in men LOL
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/22 05:30 AM
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Yeah and having a high body count should arguably be treated as an actual vice, since it is associated with worse relationship outcomes and unhappier lives overall. Or so the argument goes
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/22 05:22 AM
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I suppose I understand what you're saying. There is a way to do very small amounts of subtle makeup to hide imperfections. Like you said, it cannot be obvious. If it is, makeup sends a whole different message lol
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/22 05:48 AM
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This sounds like a very personal experience that basically happened to you when you were younger and now you're scarred. Nobody actually slut shames anymore, even if they wanted to they'd be too scared to speak up and women have taken advantage of this literally everywhere in the west.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/22 04:22 PM
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I know more about this stuff than you, since you've never spent significant time trying to be sexually attractive to the vast majority of women. Even if 2% of women are willing to fuck a guy who wears makeup, that's nothing.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/22 04:20 PM
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Girls will accept working out, not sure about tanning bed and botox and whatnot, but working out and grooming yourself isn't going to make girls view you as less sexual and less masculine.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/22 04:20 PM
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That's like Saying women don't find it attractive when men wear nice clothes or fix their hair. It's not even close to the same thing. You can do those things and still be masculinely attractive. Makeup, not really. It takes a LOT of other factors (height, facial features, muscles, money, etc) for a man to put on makeup and for women to want to fuck that guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/22 03:10 AM
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Women don't hate men who wear makeup, women are simply not sexually attracted to those men. This is just a fact, I wish you were right but you aren't.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/22 03:09 AM
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That's a pretty disingenuous response
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/22 03:07 AM
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I think the slut shaming you're talking about is not as severe as what we are talking about. The point is, there is NO real reason for women to forgo having sex with basically any guy they want especially in very progressive places in western countries. Some guys might slut shame but the vast majority don't because it's been ingrained in us not to. Even when women do disgusting things like get fucked by 4-5 guys at once we are told to shut up and act like it's normal. So even if men are thinking…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/22 03:05 AM
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Oh yeah I agree they wear it to look better. My point is, look better to whom? Some would say "women wear it to look better to themselves" but what influences how women see themselves? Women consider themselves pretty based on what other women think is pretty. It's not a bad thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/22 12:47 AM
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it always comes back to personal gain. Very good point. This concept actually has a name: psychological egoism. You can google it for more information, and this idea is actually the subject of a lot of debate in philosophy. but I don't believe anyone that says they don't care what other people think. We live in societies and what other people think greatly impacts our lives. Agreed. My personal opinion is that women wear makeup for other women because fitting in with the "generalized other" in t…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/22 12:46 AM
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I mean you're right about the movie star thing, but you should also realize that a lot of celebs actually have very good skin because they have pros taking care of them all the time. And anyway, being a rich, famous, and genetically attractive person kinda overrides the whole "uhh he's wearing makeup? That's cool I guess but I wouldn't fuck him" sentiment. You're also right about wearing makeup to look natural and get away with it, but there's also eye makeup and other things that are literally …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/22 12:44 AM
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i would say that some women who fucc around alot are also kinda masculine in their own energy in alot of ways and thus go for even more masculine guys sexually I actually notice this too. But a part of me thinks they are emulating the masculine energy of the men they are attracted to in a subconcious effort to fit in. may keep a less masculine type around to play the bf role if they want to take advantage or gain some provider level of support financially or a free living situation. Absolutely.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/22 12:40 AM
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Inertia. Women grew up with an idea that looks matter exclusiively to Men so they propel and spread that myth Projection. They are obsessed with the superficial but don`t want to admit it so they project that onto Men This is a good way of explaining it. Women honestly propagate this issue more than men do, since men are pretty easy to please. Picky, shallow men tend to suffer in the long run or end up with a very hot girl if they are really lucky. Women on the other hand are shallow in the way …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/22 12:34 AM
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Yeah but that's on reddit. go to a college campus and see what is actually happening in the real world. The future of men and women plays out exactly like the other anon said. Women sit back and relax while men scramble to meet some bullshit standards created by tiktok and social media echo chambers
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/22 12:27 AM
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I have a gf and I agree with everything in this post.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/22 12:25 AM
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This is a very well written post and I agree with a lot of the points here. One thing I notice is that the whole "gender roles" thing is very overblown on social media. I'm led to believe that women hate gender roles, have no preference for masculine guys over feminine guys, and actually prefer men who are more sensitive and respectful. This is totally a lie. Women like gender roles and often take advantage of them. Hence why women who fuck around a lot tend to be on the very feminine end and ac…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/22 12:22 AM
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Sometimes. I am a man with a few feminine traits (being clean, hygiene, sorta shy, sensitive) but my gf is pretty feminine too and that ends up being a good thing for us. the only masculine trait she has is being blunt
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/22 12:19 AM
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My view is that women wear makeup, not for men, but because they want to fit in with other women. From what I see women care a lot about what other women think of them, and this seems to be the driving force behind eating disorders, bullying amongst young girls and teens, and even clothing choice. Sorority culture takes this to the extreme, to the point where all the girls shamelessly imitate each other's mannerisms and looks. But even outside of greek life, I notice that a lot of girls do their…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/22 12:16 AM
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I see this argument a lot. The only issue is, women do not like men who wear makeup. I can already hear the horde of angry girls trying to womansplain me, but I know FROM EXPERIENCE that the vast vast majority of girls are not sexually attracted to that in the slightest. Wearing makeup as a man sends a message that says "I am concerned about my appearance in a feminine manner" that basically outs them as gay, bi, or simply not hetero and masculine. If a man wears makeup, he is cutting out a lot …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/22 12:13 AM
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Men obviously care about looks, but their standards are nowhere near as ridiculous as women's standards, to the point where you might as well say men don't care.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/22 12:10 AM
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You're not blue pilled at all if you realize that. I think that women sorta wear makeup for themselves, but once you really look deeply at the reasons behind it, they are actually doing it simply because it's a social thing and other women do it.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/22 12:09 AM
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You're both right and wrong. Women don't actually wear makeup for themselves, they do it for other women because they care about other women's opinions more than men's opinions. This makes sense -- if women all stopped wearing makeup, men would probably adapt their preferences and be just as thirsty as they are now. Women on the other hand pay immense attention to small and insignificant details of appearance in themselves and each other. They talk a lot of shit about other women at work and sch…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/22 12:07 AM
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I'm just saying surveys have shown lesbians have less sex than gay men do. By a lot. Also, lesbian couples report higher levels of emotional and verbal abuse but that's not really relevant here.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/22 12:01 AM
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It's biologically proven that men are more varied in personality, physical attributes, etc compared to women. The y chromosome undergoes recombination/mutation significantly more often than the X chromosome or mitochondrial chromosome does. Men tend to vary from each other in terms of height, weight, disposition, arm span, intelligence, and so on, while women tend to cluster around a given average. Sociological studies have provided evidence that women have very similar personality traits as one…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/22 12:00 AM
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Normal men do not abuse women. Normal men are respectful and kind to a fault, to the point where they blame themselves if their gf is being toxic or abusive. This is the majority of young men today.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/22 10:15 PM
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why don't women? Lesbians have far less sex than gays. This is further proof that women don't care about sex unless someone deludes them into doing so
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/22 10:14 PM
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Maybe men should care about that more? they literally do, men are multi faceted unlike women.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/22 10:13 PM
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You're just agreeing with me. Women don't care about sex, they care about "standards" and who they are having sex with and who finds out.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/22 09:30 PM
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Men are desperate for sex, not friends. Women are desperate for friends and relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/22 09:30 PM
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-women do care about sex. Not really. Sex itself is meaningless to women, what matters is the emotions and themes surrounding it. Men would get their dick sucked through a glory hole, women would never want a random man to eat them out, even with no risks involved. Women in liberal colleges are in the most sex positive environment possibly on Earth, and women still turn down readily available sex with men who are more attractive than the women are. The whole "women care about sex like men do" is…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/22 09:19 PM
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You should probably meet people more, especially younger people who aren't washed up degens. We are the future and therefore more relevant than you
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/22 09:15 PM
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Men can have plenty of male friends they love and trust and still be virgins with no gf. It has nothing to do with being lonely or not having platonic friends. You are confusing loneliness for sexual attraction. Women don't care about sex, men do. Men will settle for a woman who is willing to fuck, and maybe change his mind later. Or, men will settle for a woman and not realize it because social media tells men to lower their standards and tells women to raise them. there are more women than men…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/22 09:00 PM
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I’m older than you and have seen/experienced a lot more of men first hand. Yeah probably degenerates who have no real education, future, and mental stability. That's a tiny tiny minority of total men. It's insanely easy to find normal men if you aren't living in a poor shitty area of the country and you are actually a normal person with shit going for them. You remind me of retarded sorority girls who bitch and whine about how men are so trash. Of course they are, your entire pool of men is frat…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/22 08:57 PM
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You can easily escape hookup culture, just get a normal bf. There are so many normal ass men out there who are single and very nice people with a lot going for them. Are they as attractive as you want them to be? No, because your standards for men most likely are influenced by hollywood icons and the like. But are they solid, dependable people who will give you their hearts and trust? Absolutely. I agree that women don't win with casual sex, and the whole sexual liberation thing is one of the bi…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/22 08:40 PM
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I mean yeah sex is pretty powerful. Women are the gatekeepers of sex, that's a given. And recently women have put an immense amount of time and energy into gatekeeping sex even more than before, to only certain men they decide are worthy of it. The personality of these men has little to do with it. I wouldn't really say men are "jealous", most of them are pretty unaware of how bad they have it and assume that it's the norm
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/22 08:37 PM
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Wives cheated on their husbands too, there are literally thousands of recorded examples of this from the high middle ages in Europe for example
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/22 08:34 PM
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Most men aren't having a lot of sex though... it's mostly women who buy into the whole "let me fuck as much as I can because it seems like the cool thing to do"
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/22 08:33 PM
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Honestly I see the opposite WAYYYYYY more often what you're describing is relatively rare and so it stands out to you
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/22 07:15 PM
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Wow it's almost as if women have awful taste in men and rarely learn from mistakes It's almost as if women go for looks far more than personality and then act surprised when the guy turns out shitty Men also overlook personality for looks but at the end of the day men have a very low bar for both looks and personality
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/22 07:13 PM
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Men ignore red flags because we are very hesitant to call out women for their shit and criticize them at all. Also, there is a big push from women to dodge accountability for their bad actions, which makes men doubt themselves when they have a problem with their female partner
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/22 07:10 PM
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Nice observation friendo You really got me there
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/18 03:04 AM
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I just read your other comments and damn dude you have some issues. Every time you open your mouth and say something, the rest of the users here are confused or disgusted. You seem to have this irrational hatred towards masculinity and men, and therefore hatred towards yourself. I’m no psychiatrist, but you should stop taking your issues out on other men who are trying their best to make it out here. Almost everything you say seems to be rooted in the fact that men are bad and women are good. Yo…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/18 07:56 PM
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You don’t have to date women to understand what they are like. Young women are willing to contribute less than their older counterparts. A lot of it has to do with changing gender roles and social constructs. You can hear it from men who have dated women, or women themselves on various social media platforms, where posts get hundreds of thousands of likes in agreement. Many women pride themselves on “playing men” or using guys for free meals, favors, transportation, etc. They don’t want to contr…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/18 07:41 PM
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I see now that you’ve been baiting this whole time. At first I thought you were actually really dense, when in reality you’re just saying things that intentionally get people riled up. I keep seeing you spout some random garbage on every posts comment section. Just to get replies. Borderline sociopathic shit. You’re not worth arguing with at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/18 07:03 PM
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Nice. A statistical anomaly replies with something that everyone wants to hear, and is upvoted to the top within hours. The sad reality is that very few women will even think of contributing this much to a relationship. But never mind that, let’s judge an entire group of people by the best it has to offer
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/18 06:54 PM
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You didn’t address his argument. You just said ur angry lolz and ran away.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/18 06:49 PM
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At least their complaints are rooted in statistical and extensive anecdotal evidence. One could argue that shits like you listen the least. You consistently bash everyone on this sub in a way that appeals to the Reddit hive mind even though you lack substance to back your claims up. Even toxic subs like braincels have a lot of discussion from both sides. More often than not, blackpill guys listen to blue pillers like you rant on about how delusional everyone else is. Sure, there are some toxic i…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/18 06:48 PM
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“All kinds of guys do this” You’re pulling this out of your ass. Very few men have the privilege of sleeping around with women all the time. Even if a man goes for ugly women who are well below his standards, he is still competing with men who are more attractive than himself because male thirst knows no bounds. The “elite” most attractive guys have no problem settling for a below average woman if she’s willing to open her legs. Also this is not normal dating behavior. You’re confusing hook up c…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/18 06:42 PM
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Man slut is an oxymoron but ok
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/18 06:38 PM
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Ironically, the entire rest of his life is now a living hell because of the lenient sentence he received, which is arguably worse than serving 10 years or so
/r/PussyPass13/10/18 05:02 PM
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This is super interesting. Is there any source for this?
/r/BlackPillScience23/08/18 03:16 PM
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Are you familiar with the magazine cosmopolitan? Didn’t think so.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/18 09:55 PM
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