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Bless your heart..you cant read. If only I knew that. Good luck with that.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/26 05:40 AM
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Well the do seem to have a point. Before the 90s the male dominated medical field didn't really address breast cancer withour any level of agency. So there is a bit of truth to that idea. If breast cancer mainly affected men it would have been handled differently.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/26 05:25 AM
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Yes, men who have social skills and charisma can use those skills to lie and deceive. Those with poor social skills can't.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/26 02:53 AM
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I don't see women blaming men for their dating problems. I do see women stating that a lot of the men they encounter don't have basic social skills needed to date. But unlike lots of single men, I don't see women blaming for all of their problems. Then again, women don't tend to place their self worth on the idea if they are dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/26 11:55 PM
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If a women interacts with one man, it is small, but they don't. And you know that. You need to multiply the risk by every man that women interacts with. And in doing that, you find that the risk of a woman encountering a man who wants to harm her is high. Thus, that woman taking steps to mitigate that risk is correct. There is zero narrative I have here. Other than listening to all my of female friends who have described exactly what I'm describing. They vet because they have to.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/26 11:52 PM
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They can do so all they wish. They just look foolish when they take credit for things they haven't done. IF you want men to look like idiots by all means let them take credit for things they have never done. Try this test in the real world. Take credit for doing something you have never done and see if that helps you.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/26 10:45 PM
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Some have. Just like some women have committed murder. But if we look at those parents who abandon heir children we see far more men than women in those categories. So yes, out of all the parents who have abandoned their kids, women make a small minority of that total.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/26 09:22 PM
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I'm not expressing the idea that young men are becoming more right wing. What I am saying is that they getting sucked into the manosphere and some of their online histories are full of them making anti female statements which do trickle into to their real life conversations. They also watch a whole lot of porn which promotes certain negative ideas as well. The internet has steered young man down dark paths.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/26 09:12 PM
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The reason most women don't orgasm is because men tend either ignore or rush foreplay. Or they have sex that is too short. Most porn that men watch ignored foreplay for women. Most men don't take the time and effort with their fingers or tongues to pleasure their woman. And if men need step by step instructions for the man to have an chance in pleasuring her often that kills the mood. The orgasm gap is caused mainly by men.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/26 08:20 PM
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When you aren't wrong you don't have to change your stance. When men take credit for things they haven't done in order to feel strong it does make them look weak and insecure. You can do that all you wish. It just makes you look weak and insecure. No one is stopping you from doing that.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/26 07:47 PM
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But taking credit for something you haven't done is both weak and insecure. Only the very weak have to claim something they haven't done as a positive to feel good about themselves. But if you want him to broadcast how weak and insecure he and other men are, go for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/26 07:38 PM
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I was talking to the OP. Are you the OP on an alternate? It not, I'm a bit confused as to why you thought I was calling you out.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/26 07:36 PM
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They aren't going their own way. They are dating higher quality men and are very selective. Men who throw temper tantrums and hissy fits at women who select bear are left behind.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/26 07:35 PM
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Yes, but you would be properly wary of a dog who expressed certain behaviors just like women are properly wary of men who express certain behaviors. And lots of men are starting to express behaviors that are making women and others concerned. Which seems to be a hard idea for some men to understand.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/26 07:19 PM
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Why does he get to take credit for shit he didn't do? That's insecure and weak as hell. He didn't do any of those things. Other men did.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/26 07:15 PM
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SO then you must call out men when they attack women online all while forgetting the legions of caretakers, single mothers, educators and nurses that society is dependent on right? Right? You wouldn't be massive hypocrite if you didn't, right? That would never happen...right?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/26 07:14 PM
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Yes, but a man can nut into a women and then leave her and her child. As proven by the millions of men who do that. Women can't do that now can they. If would take incredibly poor reasoning to think that the contribution of a man and a woman are the same when it comes to reproduction.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/26 07:10 PM
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Every single women I know who has dated has had an encounter with a man who wanted to sexually assault them, did successfuly assault them or wouldn't take no as an answer. And that was after taking multiple steps to prevent such things. This idea that women don't have to worry about being SAed seems to based on poor reasoning. Your points seem to further the idea that women should be careful around men.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/26 07:07 PM
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You seem to be the reason that women do chose bear. You seem to have either a need to get back at women or a need to insult them. Thus, in an odd sort of way, proving them correct and you wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/26 07:04 PM
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But those same stats say that if a women is to be harmed the odd of it being a man are very high. If she's pregnant, her biggest risk is her domestic partner. If she is going to randomly attacked or attacked by someone she knows, the biggest risk of that comes from a man. During dating, women are much more vulnerable to both being attacked or being drugged.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/26 07:01 PM
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Yes, since men haven't developed social skills or confidence when talking to women it has been harder for those men to date. The reason that men often fail in those situations is because they haven't developed the skills needed to navigate them. If men relate to your story about chasing a girl for two years or driving an hour for a date that means that lots of men simply bad multiple poor choices when it comes to dating. And average looking girls aren't living the life of a celebrity. That just …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/26 05:15 PM
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Do you own being bald or do you resent it?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/26 04:30 AM
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No one is caring. Those men weren't exactly catches. Most of those men went even dating in the first place This is like saying that a homeless man gave up caviar. Go quit. Dont let the door hit you. Please shut up and quit No one would be happier if you did.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/26 02:18 AM
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Why did you fail at something 100 times and think you should do the same thing 200 more times? That seems a tad like a really bad plan.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/26 01:01 AM
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Average people date each other all the time. Those with confidence and social skills do a lot better than those without them. What's your dating experience. What's your longest relationship?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/26 11:34 PM
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And I sure if you quiet quit, no one would be bothered by that.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/26 11:28 PM
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When your first sentence is 100 percent wrong it is hard to say anything you say serriously. It is clear you have zero idea what you are talking about.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/26 11:25 PM
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I met a girl who loves me for the person I am, so I know how deeply you are wrong. It is shame that you are angry, bitter and scared. There are better ways to live. I am happy and secure. Your personal attacks dont really bother me in any way. Dont worry. I won't bother helping you again. It seems useless anyway. You do you.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/26 09:33 PM
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Hold up. Those men created echo chambers were they could say hateful and toxic ideas about women. And their groups were banned for either supporting a man who killed women or for advocating for rape.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/26 09:28 PM
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So all the men who are angry and bitter at women wirh long post histories to prove that, tend to angry virgins without the confidence to talk to a woman or the social skills to take her home.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/26 09:23 PM
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So what. She is still dating, having sex ans isn't consumed by bitterness Go ahead and keep insulting women and then wonder why they dont want anything to do with you. Seems like sucha winning plan
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/26 09:20 PM
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How dare I try to help you. Don't worry man. It won't happen again. You will be rejected by every girl you ask. Nothing will ever improve. That better? That seems to be what you want.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/26 07:22 PM
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Where are you not?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/26 06:14 PM
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Dating isn't X. Dating is always a very individual choice. What worked for my wife and I wouldn't work for you. The more you try your paint by number, one idea works for all, the more you lose. That's why we are better. You claim that to date you must do X. We claim that to date you must do the best option to be with the person you want to be. You are reductivist. We aren't.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/26 04:55 AM
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Yet your red pill ideas don't pass any level of examination. Regular people date regular people all the time. WE don't have much to hide because for all your bluster you don't have much to stand on.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/26 04:53 AM
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And what would that look like in a practical sense? Because that sounds great. So give me those specifics. IF a male student doesn't want to talk to his professors about a class he is struggling in until it is too late to help, what then? What should society do? OR if man makes the choice to socially isolate and not use mental health services offered? What then?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/26 01:42 AM
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That's what is happening. Men are being too lazy to apply to schools. They aren't asking for help when they get to schools, so when things get hard they drop out. Or they socially isolate when then get there, so they make zero friends. Should I sugar coat those ideas to make you feel better? The biggest obstacle to men being in school is the choices of those men.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/26 01:35 AM
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She isn't being passive. She knows what she wants and she isn't going to settle for less. Wanting a man to want to have the social skills and confidence to talk to a woman isn't that high of a bar.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/26 01:32 AM
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no one is saying that single men are bad. Single men who have long online histories full of negative and toxic comments about women.....
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/26 01:30 AM
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Are you okay man?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/26 01:28 AM
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Why are you lying about getting a houseplant for strangers on the internet. That might be a sign you should get some perspective.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/26 01:28 AM
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Or your entire approach is wrong. If you do something that isn't going to work over and over again you will be rejected. If you change your tactics, you can be successful.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/26 01:25 AM
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Do you think that unconfident sensitive men are the best? Insecure men are a hassle to date because you always have to feed their insecurity. If a man is to scared to talk to someone he isn't the best.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/26 01:17 AM
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There were barriers to entry when it came to women in STEM. There isn't any barriers to entry when it comes to men attending school. They are just choosing not to. Or they quit when things get a little hard.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/26 01:13 AM
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Is this a joke?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/26 08:39 PM
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Is getting what you dont want an advantage? Because women seem to be saying that what you see as aj advantage isnt one.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/26 04:38 PM
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But most people who have any level of social skills can tell the difference.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/26 04:09 PM
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I am not taking about cold approaches. I am talking about not asking a women out in any social context. The blame isnt women. It is the complete lack of confidence and social skils on the part of men.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/26 02:25 AM
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A lot. If those men were socially visible and interesting. If the man sat on the sidelines and didn't do anything, it would be much more rare.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/26 02:19 AM
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If you are in a committed relationship, talking to other people to try to date them or have sex ia cheating. Wearing a dress or putting on make up isn't
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/26 01:51 AM
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Compatibility is two different people coming together on things. It has nothing to do wirh two people being the same.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/26 01:48 AM
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Not based on my decades of life experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/26 01:45 AM
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Reading the room is an important social skills. You can just skip over it as it applies in so many situations. From dating to friendships to just basic interaction.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/26 01:43 AM
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But you also understand how they can be flirtatious
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/26 01:26 AM
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Yes women flirt with men they find attractive. But too many men thought the smile from the waitress was flirtatious
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/26 01:24 AM
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Expecting men to be able to talk to women isnt high expectations. Thats basic human interaction.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/26 01:13 AM
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Women do call bullshiters on bull shit far more often. Lots of men think that when their bullshit is called women are being mean to them. It is almost like certain men have spent so much time on echo chambers they forget that they don't live in one.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/26 01:07 AM
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Is this a joke? Those women dont want anything to do with conservative men.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/26 01:05 AM
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If you dont have the courage to talk to women and then spend a lot of time complaining about being single can you blame others for not seeing that in negative light
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/26 01:01 AM
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The biggest problem in mental health isn't finding the people who need aid, It often isn't resources. I used to work with programs gears towards men such as depression or social isolation or such. We could find our target audience. We could try to reach out to them. We could gather funding to help them. Hardest part, getting them to walk in the door. It is getting men to walk in the door and then having those men stay long enough for the slow and steady change to set in. Women also have greater …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/26 09:56 PM
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Are women have better outcomes because they stick around and do the work? And are they quicker to seek aid so their problems are less entrenched. Because men do tend to seek mental health help far later in the process than women and thus present with much more difficult problems. And often, even if a man does come in the door their 3 5 and ten week retention rates are lower than women.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/26 09:43 PM
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Men not choosing to go to school isn't an issue that women have to solve. Men not choosing to go to school, work or become trained isn't a issue women have to solve. And if you don't like those laws criticize the vast majority of male lawmakers who put them into place. And male students face behavioral consequences because they tend to show more poor behavior more often. Thus they face consequences for their actions.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/26 09:37 PM
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Your last post attacked women for not having "Accountability" and you wonder why they aren't coming to your aid to solve the issues you aren't able to solve. When you attack people they tend to tell you to go fuck yourself and couldn't care less about your problems. This post reeks of childish entitlement.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/26 09:33 PM
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And men have to stop acting like cowards.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/26 09:30 PM
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Sorry I thought you were going to say more about that than one single word. But you brought a laundry list of things women do and then your friend was an example of this and listed something she did unrelated to your post. Your friend likes to talk to you when she has problems. That's what friends do. When they have bad days they talk to each other and get support. That could be why she values your friendship. And she is concerned that your investment does seem low. You say you bring quality, bu…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/26 02:03 AM
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So I asked you a question. Have you talked to her about this issue before you made this post.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/26 10:16 PM
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Before you made this post did you talk to your friend about that issue? And what your friend is talking about seems nothing like the ideas you expressed before you gave that example. If it is an example it seems like a poor one.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/26 10:11 PM
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More young men should ask the girl out.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/26 08:09 PM
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How does that answer matter. Something dont change.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/26 08:07 PM
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No, examples cant be found in this thread. Nothing is stopping you from helping men and advocating for male issues other than your need and want to attack women and feminism. You aren't helping men here. You are just complaining and attacking unrelated ideas. Hell, I asked if men are responsible for their own actions and you couldnt even answer that question without deflecting. If you spent a tenth of the effort on doing things that you on complaining you be a positive change. Yet any chance you…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/26 03:23 PM
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You mean men are responsible for their own actions? No. Can't have that. Isnt there a women to blame. Dont you know how easier that is?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/26 03:18 PM
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If you dont think that personal responsibility and agency is important than we are going to disagree on this. If the first response to a basic question is to refuse to answer and address while pivoting to women thats not a great start.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/26 03:16 PM
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In talking about male suicide the reason men kill themselves at higher rates aren't tangents. They are the fundamental issues of the topic. Ans if we proclaim that men are nothing but victims of powers beyond their control that leads to more negative outcomes.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/26 03:14 PM
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Men socially isolate more, have more access to firearms and spend less time addressing their mental health. What's your ways of solving that? And also, are you hear just to complain or get your hands dirty. It is simple to complain. It is harder to work to make things better.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/26 02:39 PM
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We are talking about male issues and you want to deflect. Is that your go to. I ask you a direct and important question and your first reaction is to attempt to deflect. That's pretty weak Because if you haven't even thought about my question than this is pointless. Are men responsible for their own actions or nothing more than helpless victims is something you should probably have some level of understanding if you want a real talk about this.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/26 02:24 PM
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Are men who are struggle at all responsible for their lot in life or are they victims with zero agency at the mercy of others?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/26 02:18 PM
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If you want someone to invest in you you need to show them you are willing to invest in them. If you want someone to know how you feel, you need to tell them that. And there is nothing wrong with being just the friend to people. Friends are generally good people to have. But when you decide that you are love with a person you aren't dating that's when problems can happen. That's not real love. That's a fantasy. Friendships can be more over time if that's what both people want and those people we…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/26 02:05 PM
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Men do want to be valued as people but often don't spend time investing in others who they find valuable. If men want close friendships we need to invest in those friendships, but as you said, we often don't. We are alone and complain about that as we don't spend much time maintaining and developing social networks while we spend hours doing non social activities. If men want to be valued before they have invested time and effort that's going to be a hard path. That can happen, but it will be ha…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/26 02:01 PM
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Wow man. You seem to have to very odd views on all of this
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/26 01:42 PM
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Why are you asking for dating advice from strangers in the first place? That seems like a poor idea. And yes, while things have changed there are ideas that haven't. Being confident and having social skills worked then. It also works now.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/26 01:41 PM
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Yes, because long term life expectancy and health out comes for those who live on the street are so high.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/26 01:33 PM
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I'm going to let you be as wrong as you wish. You are so off the mark here is isn't worth correcting you. Yes, holding men to higher standards and proclaiming that we don't have to be hand held to understand basic social ideas related to dating can be threatening while blaming women for all of male problems can be quite soothing. Responsible responsibility is very scary to those who don't feel they have agency.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/26 01:31 PM
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No it isn't. You die if you don't have a house. You don't die if you don't have sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/26 06:06 AM
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No they aren't. It thought that if they do that, they are a beta who is settling. Average men don't want to date average girls. And those men aren't looking for fat women, or awkward women or women below them. If they end up with them they feel like they are a loser and still under chad. Men complain about lack of access but a large percentage of those men who complain haven't asked out any woman. Around 45 percent of young men haven't ever asked anyone out in real life. And then they complain t…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/26 06:05 AM
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You do know that you can have self respect and still approach women you want to interact with. The idea that you think this is one or the other is odd.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/26 05:59 AM
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No you didn't. You give men a pass and blame women. That's all you do. I hold men to higher standards. I think they are far better than the simpletons you make them out to be.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/26 05:52 AM
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So instead of refuting a word I say, you personally insult me behind my back like a coward? Call me not surprised in the least.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/26 05:49 AM
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Am I wrong. I don't attack men. I just hold them to higher standards and don't think that they are simpletons who can't grasp basic social skills. Holding men accountable seems to be very threatening to some men. The person you are talking to thinks that men are idiots who can't grasp basic ideas. I think that men can and should held to that standard.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/26 05:48 AM
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You really aren't that complex. You call out women any chance you can get as you give men a pass for lacking understanding of basic ideas. Women are to blame always and men are held blameless like they are children who must be coddled or protected from the consequences of their own actions.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/26 01:19 AM
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Notice how once again you are attacking women while at the same time giving men a pass. This pattern is getting more and more pronounced. All you seem to do is attack women and give men a pass. And you also seem to throw personal insults when called on this. I would prefer if you stopped sending personal insults my way. I do hope I'm being very clear.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/26 01:18 AM
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When you said that those ideas were somehow exclusive to bi men. You said that a woman wants those ideas thus they wouldn't want a bi man.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/26 01:03 AM
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Bi men can be assertive, confident and anything else you claim they can't be. That's kind of separates this post from credibility.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/26 12:50 AM
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It is the role of society to personally tell men that if they want to date they have to confident and have social skills and be assertive? Are men that stupid they need to directly told that? You seem to think so. I guess in your world men are fucking idiots who need pointers on basic ideas of human interaction. And that if we don't coddle them than it is our fault. You want to blame women because men chose to be fucking stupid that seems like an odd choice. Men who aren't able to figure out bas…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/26 11:49 PM
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Do you have any examples where you advocate for personal accountability when it comes to the behavior of men? Because I have seen you attempt to deflect to women via your biased views, but I am just curious if you called men out to task with as much vigor as you wanted to deflect? Do you have any examples of that? Because what I do see if claiming you support male accountability, yet you write paragraphs attacking women while making zero such attacks about men? Have you ever advocated for male a…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/26 11:44 PM
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Thinking that just because you are nice you will be noticed, is. And if you claim to be shy and nerdy and not interesting you can start there and work up. You can learn some things that could help you be better in skills you think you are lacking in.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/26 08:35 PM
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Nice guys I know seem to want to hide in the dark and have women come to them. They think that somehow being nice will attract people they aren't social or confident people. They don't have the courage to go up to a girl and talk to her. They think that they can just be nice and women will flock to them. And if they are talked to lots of their conversations are based on their needs, wants and perspective with not much give or take. I had a conversation with a dude who was upset that he was nice …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/26 08:24 PM
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But when it comes to basic social interactions do we need to dumb it down that much and do that much hand holding and coddling? Because if that's how bad things are then men have a to do a lot of work. And any time spent blaming other for your problems, which is a tad common these days, is going to set you back even further. The internet hasn't been the best place for younger men.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/26 07:59 PM
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While everyone is boring to some people there are people who are boing to almost everyone. Best not to be that latter person.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/26 07:53 PM
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If a man thought that all they had to do was be nice and they would get the girl that's on their own ignorance. That's a reflection of their poor understanding and nothing to do with what girls want. Nice guys who are boring, or shy or social inept are going to struggle. Nice guys who have social skills, know how to flirt and read and send signals and have social confidence aren't. It is easier to blame women for not picking the "nice guys" than it is to do the work to gain those social skills. …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/26 07:50 PM
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Just because you don't understand something doesn't mean that women are being hypocritical. Your example here is of you not understanding something, not of women being hypocritical.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/26 07:45 PM
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Are men so lost that basic ideas need to modeled to adult men for them to have any level of understanding. Do they need that level of hand holding and coddling? And If men are doing the life isn't fair routine do they know how childish that makes them look.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/26 07:41 PM
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No one ever told men that just because they were nice they were going to get a girlfriend. They still had to be confident and have social skills and the courage to ask women out. Those of those "nice guys" simply didn't do what it took to date. Men just created that fantasy and got upset when it wasn't true.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/26 07:38 PM
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But it is a dodge. You aren't attempting any level of accountability. You just want to do a dodge and deflection. Just saying that someone else does something too isn't a defense against a claim that you doing that thing. It is nothing more than a kneejerk almost childish defense.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/26 07:34 PM
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Yet you ignore all the time women reject assholes and you also ignore all the time when women chose men who are good. And you don't fault men for being manipulative assholes. Am I missing anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/26 11:57 PM
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People are shocked that women go to parties? This is new information that people are confused about? Because lots of those STEM men haven't invested all that much in their social skills. I've hung out in those circles. Those aren't bad men, but they do need to spend some time building some social skills.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/26 09:32 PM
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The men tend to complain about not getting any dates. And then they do nothing but bitch and moan and blame women for their problems. And it is fine if your self esteem is hurt, but lashing out at others for that seems to show immaturity. That's why you have a large amount of men who only say negative things about women who then also want to be loved and supported by those same people. Which is a tad off putting. Blaming others for your problems is far more common than any level of self reflecti…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/26 09:02 PM
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What the fuck are you talking about?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/26 06:24 PM
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So my female friend just went on a date with a guy who couldn't hold a conversation to save his life. Yes, she bitched about that but was that her fault. She also didn't get her self worth from that dating experience. See how what happened to her wasnt her fault?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/26 06:18 PM
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You never have heard a man say that he was going his own way, yet who also constantly bitched and complained about women. Did you ever go to that sub? OR into their spaces? Because that's all they do.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/26 05:30 PM
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Yet, when I see people angry and bitter and blaming one sex for all their dating problems, I mostly see men. I do see women bitching and complaining about the actions of men they have dated, but I can't really blame them with some of the things they have had to deal with. My friend just went on a date with a man who couldn't hold an in person conversation. That bugged her. But she doesn't get her self value from men she is with.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/26 05:29 PM
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Modern women do report they are suffering and are much more likely to talk about with a friend or a therapist. They spend more time developing and maintaining social networks and use those when they need help.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/26 05:26 PM
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But the women do seem to be free and living a better life. The men take their self validation from their dating status and go to dark spaces. Most of the single women I know are happy and have a life full of social outlets and friendships. They aren't as angry and bitter. I can't say the same about the men who proclaim they are single. They do seem very angry and bitter and also seem to want to hate women or at least that's what they comment on.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/26 05:24 PM
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So you mean that women like to date interesting men with social skills. This is bad because?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/26 05:22 PM
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There is a huge overlap between those who are single and those who hold to negative views on women and who have a long history of making negative and toxic comments on women. To pretend there isn't is just fantasy.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/26 05:21 PM
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The fast majority of women pick good men. The fact that you can't see that in order to pick outliers to make your all women are bad arguments is quite unhinged and says more about what you value than what women do.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/26 05:17 PM
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Is there a reason why you ignored the vast, vast majoirty of men that women select that in fact aren't murders. And I think that the women G. Khan was with probally didn't have much of a choice in the matter. Sex slaves usually don't have much choice. Which also eliminates those who were with Epstien and Weinstien. It seems like you are basing this off a small majority of the men women pick
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/26 05:16 PM
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Never here. Never my social circles. Oddly when you don't go looking for that content the algorithm doesn't give it to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/26 05:03 PM
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To think those people, and their mindset, disappeared once their subs got banned seems to be wrong based on what we see. The idea that women are to blame for all of male dating problems does still persist And that men have zero agency or personal responsibility. Or that women only go after chads.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/26 04:55 PM
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But MGTOW was just men complaining about women. That was topic of most of the posts on that sub. For mn who claimed to go their own way, they sure as hell still wanted to bitch and complain.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/26 02:36 AM
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Are the men also proclaiming that they dont relationships to survive or are they building their self worth based on if they are dating? Because I see the men claim that they are going their own way spend a heck of a lot of time complaining about women.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/26 02:31 AM
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And if all they want to do is whine and complain we can them to shut the fuck up. No one needs to hear someone whine and complain all the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/26 02:03 AM
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It is funny how many people get their ideas centered simply by going out. Normal people date normal people. People in their 30s are attracted to each other.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/26 02:02 AM
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Men are allowed on dating after 40. And I didn't really see the same of bitterness there that I see from single men. Are you open to the idea that it isnt just men being single but how they handled it
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/26 02:00 AM
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And yet those comments were supported and upvoted and were not removed. Until they were forced to in a last ditch effort to keep those subs.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/26 01:43 AM
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I see single women complaining about the lack of good men, but I dont see anything near the same level of bitterness. Their personal sense of self isnt as tied into being a relationship. What gets men a bad reputation isnt being single. It is the bitterness and all that follows.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/26 01:32 AM
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Why are assuming that people who let in their 30s aren't attracted to each other. Are you open to being wrong here because you are very wrong amd youe negative assumptions can lead to negative outcomes
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/26 01:16 AM
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Dude, do the same challenge I have done. Ask men when is the last time, from their online profile, they have said anything positive about women. And have them provide three examples of positive statements. Lots of the men who are defending cant pass that test. Try it yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/26 01:10 AM
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Yes because those guys tend to make a massive amount of anti female comments and blame them for all their problems. Amd thats what is used to examine their character.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/26 01:06 AM
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I mean is that last sentence wrong. Men formed incel subs, lashed out at women, advocated for rape and celebrated a man who killed women. Women didn't do the things. Men seem to need relationships to feel validated far more than women do.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/26 01:01 AM
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Do we forget the actions of incels here? Where they spent thousands of hours making millions of anti female comments, some advocating rape and celebrating a man who shot at women. Because single women didn't take those actions. But men did.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/26 12:58 AM
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If a man is single that doesnt make him an asshole. When he blames all of his problems on women while he doesnt do anything to improve himself he sounds sound like a man who just wants to do nothing but bitch and complain.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/26 12:54 AM
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All of that is based on built trust and communication which is step that is often rushed Lots of men ask for things without building that level of trust and communication.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/26 10:58 PM
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What is your longest relationship and do you have a favorable view of women or do you have a not so favorable view of women? Are you using AI to write about something that you don't really have much direct knowledge of?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/26 10:48 PM
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Only if they are insecure. Seems like you are not only insecure, you are looking at ways to fed it and self sabotage. If you that insecure, break up with her. Do her that favor. Be alone and insecure. Don't' shackle someone else to it. Be one of those forever alone men going their own way people.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/26 10:47 PM
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You think that you will never be enough. Others who aren't hindered by that same limitation will have much better outcomes. You will always be your worst enemy.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/26 10:44 PM
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The real problem is that people aren't making rent and paying for basic needs with those min. wage jobs all while the richest of us make massive amounts of profit. That is and has always been the real problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/26 10:40 PM
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Do you need to insult me to feel better. How sad. Odd that you need to bring others down to attempt to feel better about yourself. You must have a miserable existence and need this to feel better about yourself. If you need to insult me to feel better about yourself, go for it. I couldn't care less.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/26 10:38 PM
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Just because you hold to such negative ideas doesn't mean that anyone else should make such bad choices.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/26 06:25 AM
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I'm already loved. Are you? You don't sound like you are.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/26 06:23 AM
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I'm sorry I can't help you with your hurt feelings. That's your problem to fix. Have you ever asked a girl why they chose bear. I've asked a female tour guide in Alaska. What have you done.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/26 06:13 AM
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Only if you have the same negative thinking patterns you do would that happen. You think you are lesser, so that defines how you interact with people. You see walls, so you smash into them head first. You are insecure and that insecurity defines you. So be weak and wonder why no woman wants to be with you.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/26 06:11 AM
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You get your feelings hurt. I don't. You care a lot because it feeds into your victimhood. I don't give a shit because I'm not defined by victimhood. Your label, that you chose, is that of being a victim. WE are not the same. Let me guess, you feel threatened so this is when you insult me again?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/26 06:07 AM
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So thanks for sharing that you have hurt feelings.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/26 06:05 AM
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Just because you are insecure about that doesn't mean that others have to share that same weakness.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/26 06:05 AM
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So instead of taking people who have a chance to not be criminals we lock those people into a life where the only path to success for those people is crime. And then we get shocked when they, wait for it, commit crimes.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/26 11:13 PM
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So you think the only way you communicate information is from speaking? You can't think of any other way to communicate information?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/26 11:05 PM
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You get your feelings hurt when women chose bear. I don't. You can't deny that because it is true. Your hurt feelings mean misandry somehow. Or you know, you can just let people think the way they think and not let your feelings get hurt.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/26 10:55 PM
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I have zero internalized misandry. Are you always this wrong because I am noticing a theme. I just don't get my feelings hurt when women chose bear. You seem to do.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/26 10:44 PM
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Normally is means that you are deeply insecure so you create a personality shell and narrative where that insecurity never gets threatened in any way. It is a mask of confidence defending someone who is deeply insecure.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/26 10:42 PM
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Your sister wasn't to blame for your actions there. You chose to do something. Of your volition. The reason that you removed yourself from the dating pool is because you chose to do that. And your first pick line failed because it was way too forward before you had built up any level of connection. It isn't the right way. Most people build a level of connection before they ask for a number. That's usually the right way.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/26 10:39 PM
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Abusers do tend to have social skills. And those are used to deceive and manipulate. Those without social skills aren't able to conceal how they really feel. So it seems like you don't have a great understanding of this topic and how people operate.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/26 10:35 PM
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I mean if a dude with poor social skills does feel bitter and toxic towards women they aren't going to do that great of a job of hiding those ideas. They will come out. If you spend hours in anti female places you can't flip that off like it is a switch. Those mindsets do end up how to feel about women.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/26 10:32 PM
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A good therapist wouldn't tell someone to stop being aware of situations. They would just teach them to understand if their perspectives have merit based on the situation. Dogs do send signals out before they bite. People can pick up on those. A therapist would certainly not tell people to stop being perceptive.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/26 10:31 PM
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It is amazing how many men got their feeling hurt with the man vs. bear thing I'm sorry your feelings were hurt. I do hope you can find some way to recover. You are the victim here. May no one ever forget your victimhood. Thank you sharing your victimhood with all of us. Here is to your recovery. Hurt fee fees are a big problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/26 10:10 PM
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Girls are more mature and tend to show a greater level of social skils. Anyone who has worked with kids can attest to this.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/26 01:53 AM
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Your opinion isnt fact.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/26 01:42 AM
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The girls are more mature. So they aren't mature before they are ready
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/26 11:50 PM
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And I say it is sad and pathetic. I seem to say what you think.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/26 11:39 PM
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Care to try that again? What you wrote made no sense
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/26 11:33 PM
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If you think I do this to get laid, it says more about you than me. Are you a virgin?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/26 11:29 PM
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I find that anyone who uses the term npc tends to be one. You asked to communicate something real and direct and you couldn't.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/26 11:22 PM
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One can not read something and still think that those who do nothing but whine and complain are pathetic losers.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/26 11:19 PM
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So why do you care if I call whiney losers losers?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/26 11:17 PM
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How else should I see men bitching and whining who blame women for all their problems. They are called for complaining and whining because thats what they are doing.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/26 11:15 PM
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Why? We would still have the same issues. Male students would still be behind in behavioral development. And young men are coddled far more than female students are. Female students arent being coddled at all. Male students are. Women just ask for help more. And they tend to work better in social settings.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/26 03:07 AM
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If that 5 4 dude has social skills he can kill with women. When women like spending time with you they often agree to spend more time with with you which leads to dating and sex. Women like hanging out ans being with men who make them feel good and show them a good time. That idea seems to scare you.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/26 03:05 AM
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Men seem to be scared of ending up alone with no one to care about them.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/26 02:55 AM
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Not ever asking a girl out has much more negative effects on your dating chances than anything women do. What happens again when you multiply by zero? Those losers are too scared to ask a woman out and want to blame women for their problems. How sad and pathetic can one be?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/26 02:46 AM
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If you take a bunch of 6th graders, boys are going to have a lot more behavioral issues and immaturity issues than their female peers. Boys are behind in those two key areas. The solution does seem to be to hold those male students back a year so they can gain maturity and behavioral regulation. If we did that, we would see improvements in the outcomes of male students. Coddling young men doesn't seem to work and can actually backfire as boys freak out when they don't get all their extra behavio…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/26 04:07 PM
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If a man isn't even confident enough to talk to a woman, like every single man had to do before him, he can't really complain that he is single. He is too scared to date and fortune does favor the bold. That is like not auditioning for plays and complaining you aren't cast in any plays.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/26 01:59 PM
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You do know that social skills are a way to make you attractive and someone others want to be around right? Because if you aren't aware of that basic idea, you are a blind man proclaiming you can see. Is your argument really that if you take two of the same people and one of them has full mastery of how to talk to people, has lots of confidence and knows how to flirt and impress and the other doesn't that will have zero bearing on their dating success? And your second paragraph is exactly what y…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/26 01:57 PM
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What happened is men failed to read rooms and hit upon people they shouldn't have hit on in ways that women didn't like. They cat called. They hit on the waitress who had to smile at them. Their first move was to profess love. And the same social skills I had a generation ago have disappeared and men retreated to spaces where they just said toxic and negative things about women...the same people they want to date them. So e cant exactly pretend that shit didn't happen. happen.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/26 12:21 AM
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You called out women for starting divorce proceedings. So yes, my example where the man cheated is something you are using to call out and criticize women. Is theee a reason you are doing that?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/26 12:16 AM
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So a man cheats on his wife. She then starts the process of divorce. Do you really want to blame her for that? Seems like you do. And you wonder why women have a negative impression of men. On this profile, what is the last positive statement you have made about women?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/26 12:11 AM
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They fall in love, date and end up happily married. Aren't they doing everything you claim you want to be doing? They are happy and in a relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/26 07:26 PM
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So yoh are alone for the rest of your life and you want to look down on those who fall in love, date and are happily married? Thats a bold choice.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/26 07:24 PM
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Women dont approach because they dont have to. If they dont feel safe around you, they arent going to approach in the first place. But if women want to talk with you, they will.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/26 07:22 PM
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I would be stupid if I kept on talking with you. This is when I report and move on.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/26 07:19 PM
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So you are talking to her and flirting wirh her and instead of sealing the deal and assessing her for a date you just walk away and the you are texting? That makes no sense. What is stopping you from asking her out?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/26 07:05 PM
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You understand. The rest of us have no clue as to what you are saying.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/26 06:32 PM
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No it isnt. You arent taking any time to build a connection. She has no reason to want to be with you because you are an unknown. Talk to her. Interact with her. Flirt with her..give her a good time. And then ask for your date. Thats much more effective than your idea. Your idea is just to do nothing to hiild a connection and then be upset when no wants to date you.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/26 05:49 PM
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Women arent afraid to approach. They just dont need to. The word afraid shows your bias and not reality
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/26 05:45 PM
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No we don't. This entire premise is flawed and doesn't really make sense. If I call out red pillers on their bullshit I don't feel the same about women. That makes zero sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/26 03:31 PM
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I don't see any other way to relate to my wife. Being in constant power struggles reeks of insecurity.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/26 03:18 PM
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No one cares if men they weren't ever going to date in the first place take a more laid back approach to dating. No one is scared. You just want them to be so you can feel special. IF you want to go, go. You are like a child threatening to hold your breathe till you turn blue.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/26 03:17 PM
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Dipshit, you know I can downvote too right. You are embarrassing yourself. There was nothing of substance to comment on. You took a flawed premise and you ran with it. And then you get hostile when we don't worship this drivel. And you sought out people who praised you. You are just angry and bitter at women. That's all this is. That is all this ever will be. You aren't hear to debate anyone. You just want others who agree with you to praise you while you get to talk down to women who you are wr…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/26 03:10 PM
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I do find it odd how the same men who only have negative things to say about women are shocked when women don't want to date them. I wonder how far back we would have to go for some of those men to say anything positive about women.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/26 02:13 PM
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Most relationships start with one person showing attention and then hanging out and spending time with each other with flirting and conversation and then it turns into dating. There is zero reason that men can't initiate that. Is your plan for just men to hide in the dark and have women come to their recue. That's now how things tend to work. Fortune does favor the bold. If you want to take zero social risks as a man, you will be hiding in the dark.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/26 01:51 PM
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You made a post and people showed you its many and massive flaws. What part of that are you not understanding. The only idea you are showing is your complete lack of understanding. Did you think that just because you made this we were going to worship at your feet. You wrote drivel and you are getting called out on that drivel. If this is now when you send me a violent insult, you prove all I said true.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/26 01:45 PM
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This is a joke right?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/26 01:40 PM
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Can you please quote anything from your post history from the last month that has been positive towards women? From the last month? Can you list three examples of that please?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/26 05:30 AM
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If those are all the ways you think that guys can meet a girl, I don't know what to tell you. You seem to have some major blind spots.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/26 05:12 AM
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So insulting the people you want empathy from is your plan? Please, by all means insult me again. Maybe the third time you do I will empathic to you and your needs. You have really unlocked the code here. To be cruel to you would mean I have to think about you in one way or another. I don't. I don't think about you at all. I don't wish you harm. Have the live you have chosen. But once you insult me, I really see no need to help you.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/26 05:07 AM
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The homeless people who sort their situation out do work harder to change their negative habits and to create new ones.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/26 04:28 AM
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Yep. How do you think is supposed to work? You do nothing and you get rewarded?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/26 04:24 AM
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Not really. Those who have those ideas tend to do a whole lot better than those who don't. We see that in spades. A large percentage of young men haven't even asked a girl out. Ever. Do you think that confident men with social skills are part of that, not really.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/26 03:52 AM
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But that doesn't do anything by itself. They need personal responsibility and agency. Those ideas can do things.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/26 11:34 PM
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Yet conservative men are reporting some of the historical worst experiences with dating and having sex. Women find them repulsive.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/26 11:31 PM
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Something can be performative and good as long as that thing is something you want to do and you like doing. We can perform because we like to perform.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/26 11:28 PM
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Those people became popular because they told young men that they could blame others for all their problems and men ate that shit up. Men need personal responsibility. And we need to stop coddling them. We dont need to change school to make men more successful. Men need to learn to be more addaptable. Men need to learn personal agency.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/26 11:25 PM
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And sexual assault isnt a part of dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/26 11:18 PM
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You seem to care about him. You cant admit you are wronf about him If he meant nothing, you wouldn't be dying on this hill. The man was sp successful he had to pay women to be with him. Yoh dont who doesnt need to do that? Successful men.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/26 11:08 PM
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So when I go out I see women dating average men all the time. Funny how that works.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/26 11:04 PM
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Ai is a tool, but if it is the only tool you are using you will have a bad time. Also, going after someone who has the resources to defend themselves is also a bad time.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/26 11:00 PM
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I am glad you are willing to learn that you can be fired for making fabricated sexual assault claims.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/26 10:57 PM
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Yes, but we arent talking about unsubstantiated. We are talking about fabricated. Making fabricated sexual sexual assault claims is grounds for justified termination. You are confusing two different ideas. And having a mental condition does not mean that people arent responsible for their own actions. And also grounds for termination particularly if it stops you from doing your job in an ethical manner.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/26 10:54 PM
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If you want to keep something up that makes you look like you dont know anything you are talking about, nothing would make me more happy.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/26 10:46 PM
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I would be so embarrassed if I wrote that message. You should delete that.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/26 10:30 PM
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The man made false and fabricated claims of sexual assault. That's grounds for firing.Thats also grounds for a civil case. That man had zero grounds to sue. What were his damages that weren't caused by his own actions? Bs very specific? It is odd that you dont think that it is. Your kicker seems to be based on bullshit. You dont seem to be holding everyone equal. You came up with your laundry list against women and didn't have a critical word against men. This seems more like a revenge fantasy t…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/26 10:22 PM
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This seems more like a shower conversation you have had with yourself and won vs. anything happening in real life.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/26 10:07 PM
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What would happen is the woman would just get child support from that man. And if a woman have to give a man alimony, so be it. Odds are that wouldn't break her. And when it comes to family court, men who don't fight for custody usually don't get it. Men who do, do. And are you talking about JP Morgan Chase case where it found that the man's claims were false and fabricated? In which she will probably make a small fortune on the civil suit she will file. As well as him being blacklisted. That's …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/26 10:05 PM
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Yes, but most of them aren't single. I would say that women do rank higher than men when it comes to social skills and confidence.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/26 09:19 PM
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Lots of average men, don't want to date average women. They want to be a 5 that can date a 8. If you give them an average women to date, they get upset. IF you tell them that they have to improve their social skills, they get upset. If you tell them that making negative statements about women is going to make it harder for women to date them, they also get upset.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/26 09:07 PM
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I threw facts you didn't like and you decided to send me a personal insult. And you wonder why people don't have much empathy for your concerns.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/26 08:55 PM
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IF you take an AI girlfriend out with you you are going to a laughing stock. Nor can you bring them to parties. OR have them meet your parents.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/26 08:35 PM
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If you don't have confidence and social skills and can't navigate dating you are going to have a hard time. That is how the world works.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/26 08:23 PM
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Why are you downplaying or ignoring social skills? Those skills are very effective when it comes to dating. A guy with confidence and social skills is going to be very successful vs a guy who doesn't have those abilities.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/26 08:22 PM
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Young men don't have the social skills and then confidence to even ask out or talk to women. The same men who spend hours online bitching and complaining don't even have the same social skills their fathers did. That's leading to the death of the species far faster than anything women are doing.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/26 08:21 PM
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Lots of men are alone because of their personality. They go online and spend hours making anti female comments and they are shocked when no woman wants to date them. And since they have poor social skills, they send off red flag after red flag. Those losers, for which there are many, are their worst enemy.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/26 08:19 PM
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It just tends to be confidence and social skills and a lack of insecurity.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/26 08:10 PM
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Yes, please loudly project how much male are victims and how their victimhood defines them. And then wonder why women don't want to date sad and pathetic victims. Yes, you are a poor victim with zero agency. Revel in your victimhood. I agree with you.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/26 08:09 PM
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Lots of men think that just because they are nice they should be able to get into a girl's pants. "Nice guys" do exist. Your second sentence is just projection right?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/26 08:06 PM
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Women do have better social skills and social confidence.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/26 08:05 PM
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Women aren't getting amazing men because there is a lack of amazing men.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/26 10:33 PM
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Men can chose how they want to act. Others get to react to that. If a man is acting like an asshole or cant regulate his emotions he will struggle. If he is insecure so he tries to be strong and hard to cover for that insecurity he is also going to struggle.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/26 05:34 PM
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They are complaining that the men they meet dont have basic social skills like being able to hold a conversation. What do you want those women to look at?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/26 05:32 PM
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Okay then. Based on all the complaints and blaming women for all their problems combined with this generation of mwn not asking women out in record numbers, it seems like doing better would help most men.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/26 05:30 PM
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Women tend to have wider social networks. Lots of dudes in relationships focus on the one person they are with. And when you get out of a bad relationship you can feel good about yourself and that tends to lead to dates
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/26 05:28 PM
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I read it Your post seems to based on poor arguments not based in reality.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/26 05:26 PM
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So if a man cheats on a woman she will start divorce proceedings. And you want to blame that on women. That seems pretty poorly thought out. Men rank far lower on EQ than women do. They rank lower on communication skills than women do. Just because you are successful doesn't mean that any woman owes you anything. The fact that don't know that seems to be a great counter argument to your idea that men have better communication skills.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/26 01:40 AM
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When men like you say really stupid comments like this it isn't that hard to talk about shit about it. When you say something that so doesn't seem all that well thought out , others get to call you out on that idea.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/26 01:37 AM
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Because you are coming off as an asshole your shaming is probably taken more as an insult and does little to nothing to help a person. In fact, it might even harm them. You should do that if you are trying to help people.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/26 01:33 AM
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It is a lot more than 1 in 100. You use of false stats make you look like you unable to form good arguments based on anything real. It makes you look like you want to live in a fantasy world were you get to pull numbers out of your ass and then use those false numbers to attack something.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/26 01:30 AM
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If women did that men would get violently upset with them. Just like they do when they are rejected.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/26 01:27 AM
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Actually around 35 to 40 percent of young men don't ask women out. And then complain that they are single. IF men don't have the confidence to ask women out they can't complain when they are single.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/26 10:48 PM
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You know your post is an opinion right?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/26 10:19 PM
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Do you know the percentage of men who haven't ever asked a woman out. You can't blame women for the cowardice of men.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/26 10:16 PM
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Red pillers are harvested for their impotent rage. They arent cared about. They are just used
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/26 10:02 PM
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I do worry for young because they seem to be losers who whine and complain all while blaming others for their problems as they make vixtimhood their personality.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/26 09:58 PM
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I would imagine that being a boring person would cause someone to cheat vs. being a person who wants to and finds adventures with their partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/26 07:22 PM
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Yes, women do want people they can have fun with. And there is nothing wrong with that.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/26 05:52 PM
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exploit joy? Who says that? If seems like you have a very odd way of looking at the world and paint everything with that brush. Your world view is so negative and wrong that it is almost comical. You don't see the world as it is. You see through your lens of bias. People date those men because they are fun to date. Not everyone has to be serious all the time. You know you can be serious at times and be playful at other times. You make it sound like being a person others want to be around is a ne…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/26 05:44 PM
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No I'm not. Those were your words, not mine. IF you get a rep for being an asshole, that gets around.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/26 05:40 PM
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No, I'm equating being an asshole with someone to being an asshole with someone. Most of the time people aren't happy when you are assholes to women they care about. What part of that do you not understand.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/26 05:31 PM
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Most of the time people aren't cool when you are assholes to women they care about. Nor are bars okay when you are assholes to females customers. A simple, Um, is this man bothering you? from a bartender or bouncer can have some interesting consequences. As is being an asshole to a women that people care about.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/26 05:15 PM
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Only if you don't understand human interaction. You don't have to lie to someone to seduce them.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/26 05:06 PM
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What? Is this a joke?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/26 05:05 PM
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Or it gets your ass kicked by the girls friends and family or aggressively banned from bars. I've seen men trying to be assholes and it fails spectacularly.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/26 04:53 PM
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Last time I checked, those men who you claim were "settled" for are in relationships, dating and having sex. And they seem much better than red pillers who seem to be angry, sad and pathetic. Are you just insulting out of jealousy or creating false narratives to make you feel better? Because that is exactly what it seems like you are talking about.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/26 08:18 PM
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No it doesn't. We know that incels hold anti female views. That's clear as day. As evidence by going into their spaces. We also know that those incels aren't only seen as horrible dating partners by women, they are the least successful men when it comes to dating and relationships in modern history. So it does seem like women are avoiding incels.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/26 08:10 PM
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But both black pill and natural misogynists are welcomed into red pill spaces with red carpets. Misogynists have always been welcomed into your spaces. They are then given an echo chamber to share their anti female ideas without any level of pushback. Quite the opposite, they are supported and others then get to pile on. This anger you don't see in other spaces as it is given a platform or social support.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/26 04:33 PM
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Some? The amount of angry and bitter red pillers is far more than some. And they are able to be bitter, anti female and angry because red pill spaces role out the red carpet for that. Bitter, angry anti female losers are all red pill. Your subs are full of them. You welcome those people and take them in and allow them to blame women for all their problems.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/26 04:13 PM
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Are you trying to lie to me and say that the bitter and angry red pill dudes arent red pill? Thats laughable. Are you so delicate that you have to deny reality? Why cant you admit reality? That so called anger phase seems to never end. It isn't that hard to find bitter and angry dudes who hate women all over red pill spaces. You roll the red carpet out for them. Hard to be red pill? How hard is it to blame others for all your problems?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/26 01:01 AM
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I would tell your brother that if his goal to be rude to people no one will care about him. And he will be alone. Your brother is going to real. he doesn't have the social skills needed to be fake.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/26 10:14 PM
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Are those men also saying lots of negative ideas about women from the protection of their echo chambers. I would imagine they say that being good isn't enough because they have zero experience with actually being a good person.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/26 10:12 PM
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You know you can be real while also not being a rude asshole right? That is very much possible.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/26 10:07 PM
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Their confidence does seems very performative. And they are very quick to find reasons to hate the same people they want to date.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/26 09:57 PM
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If red pill advice works so well why do see a massive amount of the most angry and bitter men in red pill camps. If someone is angry, sad and pathetic they tend to wear your label. They always wear your label.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/26 09:56 PM
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No, you just don't seem to know what the hell you are talking about. You seem like one of those people who has to insult others to feel special. You wouldn't be one of those people would you? Your not one of those losers are you? I hope not.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/26 01:59 AM
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So then use the word I. Dont speak for anyone but yourself. Dont say men think this...say I think this. Dont speak for women because you are just speaking for yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/26 12:38 AM
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You tell every women that you are going to date this at the start right? Those are the first words out of your mouth right?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/26 12:34 AM
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What happened is that around 30 to 40 percent of men dont have the courage or confidence to ask women out. Often these men retreated to online spaces and said lots of negative ideas about women. And since those men dont have anything to offer any woman who dates them, they dont get dates and they dont get into relationships. So women are forced to date the men who actually have the skills to date. Which is an eber shrinking number of men.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/26 12:29 AM
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Wtf. No one is asking you do shit. Stop screaming that you are victim.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/26 12:25 AM
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Just being nice to woman doesn't mean she need to sleep with you. Lots of men failed to understand that basic idea and became upset when the girl didn't put out just because they were nice
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/26 12:22 AM
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You keep on saying the male perspective when you are just speaking for yourself. Stop doing that. Speak only for yourself. You sure as hell aren't speaking for all men. Also, dont place words in the mouth of women. You want to speak for them too. Stop doing that. Women can speak for themselves. When you speak for them you will only end up being wrong a lot of the time
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/26 12:18 AM
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Lots of young men dont even have the courage a woman out. It odd to see men complaining how much the are victims when they dont even have the courage to talk to women.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/26 04:13 AM
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Yes. You have to say something of substance to contribute. You failed to do that
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/26 08:43 PM
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Someone had to. You sure as heck didn't
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/26 08:24 PM
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This is the dumbest take I have seen someone make on this sub. It seems like you have no fucking clue what you are talking about. It is embarrassing how confidently wrong you are. This is more a commentary how biaes can make you make horrible unsupported arguments .
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/26 08:18 PM
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Why are you asking strangers on the internet for advice in the first place. Do you not have friends you can talk to in the real world?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/26 03:19 AM
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You lost all credibility in your first three words.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/26 03:17 AM
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You are asking strangers for advice and not liking when it isnt personal enough. You see the problem with that right?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/26 01:41 AM
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So you seem to be wanting women to be harmed in relationships. By that logic shouldn't women avoid and not want anything to do with you?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/26 12:36 AM
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Why do you think that strangers are going to give you personalized dating advice?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/26 12:16 AM
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No. If any time a shitty guy does something shitty in a relationship this sub always blames the women because she didn't vet properly. Women always get blamed and shitty men get a free pass.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/26 12:05 AM
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Lets say you trust me and then I con you and take you for all you have. If is your fault because you trusted me? It is funny that the narrative is to attack women vs peice of shit men. But not at all surprising.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/26 12:01 AM
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The real question seems to be why are so many dudes pathetic assholes.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/26 11:54 PM
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So the man who is an asshole gets a pass?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/26 11:52 PM
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All the successful men who date via blue pill messages are the people you never hear about. They are happy and in relationships so they don't complain online.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/26 11:23 PM
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Yet, you still blame the women here. And then man, who seems to be an asshole isn't getting any of the blame. I find that odd. If I conned you or any member of your family, would you blame me or yourself for being taken advantage of?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/26 11:21 PM
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So you want women to be perfect yet men get a pass if they are assholes. So if I was to con you, you would blame yourself for being conned and not me for conning you?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/26 11:19 PM
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So you blame women who have to be both perfect and have the ability to predict the future and not the men who are assholes?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/26 10:58 PM
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I find it odd that we always fault women for who they pick and not for men being assholes. Have you asked anyone out in the last two weeks?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/26 03:42 AM
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Than you would be wrong. By a massive amount. Those behaviors are much more common in male spaces. Since you can't even grasp that reality, why would I care what you think. You don't live in reality. You swim in bias.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/26 03:08 AM
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If your self worth is dependent on others opinions you are going to struggle. Feelings and what you do with them are always a choice. You seem like you live your life at the mercy of others.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/26 03:06 AM
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It is such a shame that so many men are losers. That's the real problem. You seem to blame women when they have shit men to pick from. So let me guess, men get a pass?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/26 03:03 AM
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The sad truth is that a bunch of basement dwellers who haven't ever asked out a woman or have any level of social skills or confidence lash out against women from behind a keyboard and then wonder why women aren't caring about their issues. That is a sad truth.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/26 01:43 PM
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So they can be. What's the ratio to male and female edge lords. That's the real question. That's the one you need to ask. Everything else is deflection.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/26 01:40 PM
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It isn't fair to them that so many men are losers. Do you need someone to hold your hand and tell you that life isn't fair.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/26 01:30 PM
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Then dare to be yourself vs someone who will be unhappy running the race.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/26 08:49 PM
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Do you need to pull a ten to be happy? Are you going to be an average dude dating an average girl? You also seem to be setting yourself for failure. If you are already down on yourself, odd are someone else will be into you is going to be low. And even if she is interested, you might just self sabotage. Would you be okay being an average man dating an average woman?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/26 08:17 PM
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With your current attitude yes, but reality, probably not. IF you rant that race are you going to happy. Are you going to be secure, or is there going to always be that little voice saying you still aren't good enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/26 08:13 PM
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Red pillers are also some of the most insecure men I've ever seen. The have to have black and white thinking because nuance bothers them. For men who claim they are based on self improvement and confidence they are angry and bitter men lots of the time and they wear that anger on their sleeve. Their victimhood is a major part of whom they are. They take rejection hard.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/26 08:08 PM
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IF your self esteem and value take such a hit just because you aren't having sex you are going to bring a lot of insecurity into a relationship. Feeling down about yourself because you aren't having sex is a choice. You can do make that choice, but it will come with major consequwnces.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/26 08:02 PM
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That's the question you have to answer. This really isn't a question for us. Do you place your self worth on the interest of women? If so, why is it dependent? And if your self worth is so depend do you really have self worth at all or is your self esteem just going to ebb and flow based on if a girl is into you or not? Because if that's the case, you are setting yourself up for hard times.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/26 07:59 PM
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So what. Do you live your life scared for what others think? Are you always that meek? This sounds like an excuse. You can express interest in dating a girl. Nothing is stopping you.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/26 07:56 PM
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There is a difference between thrilling and boring. If a man is boring it is his own fault that no one goes for a second date. It doesn't take that much not to be boring. Lots of men simply don't put in the effort.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/26 05:17 AM
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He isn't being silenced. He just wants to play that card because it leans into his victimhood which is so much a part of who he is. He has made some pretty stupid comments. The last thing I would ever want to do is silence him. The man is a whiner. All he wants to do is complain. People who just complain get called out on their bullshit.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/26 05:12 AM
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No it isn't. You do know that repeating something over and over again doesn't make it true right?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/26 05:42 PM
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None of that states how a woman picks is immoral. That's dumb as shit. Your opinion doesn't become fact because you really want it to be one.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/26 05:32 PM
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When it comes to dating people do need to answer the question " what do they bring to the table." That's pretty basic question. If the answer is no confidence, poor social skills, little to no self reflection, a kneed jerk need to blame women for all their problems and lots of insecurity that's not the fault of anyone else.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/26 05:23 PM
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I would say loser men who haven't developed social skills and have lost the ability to date women are doing much more of that than women are.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/26 05:21 PM
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Life is unfair. If it took men extra steps to learn that that's on them. That's their stupidity. Men seem to fall for bullshit and then lash out when they realize they fell for bullshit. Are men nothing more than immature children who need to be coddled and have their hand held to learn basic ideas?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/26 05:17 PM
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You aren't being silenced. Others are just calling you out on your shit. You just want to be a victim so you go with the whole we are being silenced bullshit.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/26 04:31 PM
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No is looking at what a group thinks, supports and does and then using those observations to come to conclusion about that group based on their thoughts and actions.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/26 04:26 PM
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But wide generalization are often false to a massive extent. And you all treat them like they are true for each and every single women, which means that you will be wrong to a massive extent.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/26 04:24 PM
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You are whining on this post. People are going to call you out on that. Most people call out whiners who do nothing about complain how life isn't fair like a child. And you seem to be very interested in doing that.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/26 04:16 PM
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ANd there is nothing wrong with being average. Average guys go on dates and have relationships all the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/26 04:10 PM
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So then just quit. Stop trying to date and give up. If you feel that you are that hopeless, lie in the mud and do nothing.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/26 04:05 PM
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Funny how you are speaking on a public forum about how silenced you are. You aren't being silenced. You aren't being snuffed out. You aren't the victim here no matter how you cry out that you are. Others do get to listen to what you have to say and call you on your bullshit.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/26 03:42 PM
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Lots of those safe and predictable men are boring. If she goes on a date with a guy and she is bored out of her mind there isn't much reason to date him again. And if you state that you love someone way too early that is creepy. If you state you love someone you don't even know you aren't being safe.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/26 03:18 PM
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You can create male only private clubs.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/26 09:23 PM
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Do you think I have to risk my own safety there. Because it seems like you want to create spaces where women feel less safe. What's the risk in kicking a person out of an improv club who tries to flirt with women in an uncomfortable way? What's the risk in telling a bouncer or bar tender to keep on eye on a situation. Because someone already is in risk in both those situations. RIsk is already happening to someone.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/26 02:52 PM
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There are lots of chances for men to speak up. A guy gets too handsy at a bar, other men can step in there. A guy uses an improv class to flirt with someone who doesn't want to be flirted with. Men in that organization can address it and take it seriouly. And that just doesn't stop the incident but it stops future ones.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/26 02:40 PM
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The generation of men who has embraced victimhood is the generation of men who are dating the least and having the least sex. But go for it men. Declare that men are nothing more than helpless victims at the mercy of others. Seems pretty stupid, but if you want to embrace victimhood hood, you do you.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/26 05:19 AM
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If men are choosing not to be personally responsible than it is the missing part. Just like if you are told to add salt to your cooking and you refuse to do that we shouldn't look past that as to why your cooking sucks. Men do seem to be very eager to blame others for their problems while reducing both their agency and level of personal responsibility.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/26 04:29 AM
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Yes because we more brain worm in all of our care. The right is a fucking joke. The right is a cult of personaly who ignores reality as often as they can.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/26 03:34 AM
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Yes, personal responsibility is often a part of self improvement.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/26 03:30 AM
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Once again, we can know that X amount of individuals in an area probably need resources with ideas like depression. We can surge resources to those populations. We do outreach to try to get them to come in and get help. And that's where things get hard. Even if they come in the door, 3 week, 5 week and 10 week retention rates can be brutal. You see a person once, let them know that they need help and help is there and you don't see them again. They get started and they stop going. Men are choosi…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/26 01:01 AM
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Depends. If you just bring up stories, yes, that would be anecdotal. It would be better to have a number of what percentage of those who harm children are male vs. female.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/26 07:39 PM
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It is anecdotal because you provided an anecdote. If you don't like others calling your anecdotes...wait for it...anecdotes don't provide them.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/26 07:34 PM
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The hardest part about mental health programs is getting men to walk into the door for care. You re target those men and provide resources, but it hard to service those populations when they don't seek out treatment or stay seeking out treatment.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/26 07:30 PM
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An anecdote isn't data. When we examine those who torture and kill we see far more men on that list than women.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/26 07:13 PM
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So we get to hold men accountable when they get angry at women for rejection? Or when men haven't learned social skills and then get upset no one wants to date them? Or when men proclaim that they are lonely but also don't have the courage to ask women out?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/26 06:41 PM
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Women let men off like that because men have taught then that it is safter to do that than to be direct.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/26 04:50 PM
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LBHs had to leave their country because they couldn't get laid where they were from. These aren't' guys killing it. These are guys being taken for thousands at a lady bar because they are so surprised when women come on to them.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/26 04:40 PM
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Being funny isn't a personality. It is a social tool. Being witty is fun as hell. And man, you make it sound like we are all in a game and you see levels on peoples head. That's not how real life works. If you are socially confident, witty and have social skills you can open doors that others can't. You can get a drink with a girl, or talk to her. And then you can get that date, and then end up dating her. And it has nothing to do with your status. It does have a lot to do with your ability to n…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/26 04:16 PM
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on a date, what precautions have you taken to not have your drink drugged. You stated that not every woman has been raped, but almost every woman has had a negative encounter with a dude that was a bit rappy. What are men upset about. Being rejected, that's a normal part of dating. Having to do some work to find people, also a normal part of dating. What do they do with that rage? Anything productive, no. Lash out a women, the same women they want to date, seems to be much more common. Most of t…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/26 05:30 PM
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My wife was almost raped. Multiple of female friends had interactions with guys who didn't say no for an answer, or had their drinks drugged, or had a study partner try to kiss them out of the blue. What precautions have you taken not to have your drink drugged by a dating partner?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/26 05:16 PM
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I've seen that too. The same men who attack women any chance they get wonder why women are sympathetic to their cause. Are they just clueless....self centered. This is like punching a guy in the throat and then asking for his help to move.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/26 05:14 PM
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So it wasnt a joke. Just a one of the worst arguments made on this sub. No wonder this generation of men is the worst off when it comes to sex or dating
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/26 10:18 PM
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This a joke right?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/26 10:12 PM
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If that was true I would see the same level of women blaming men for all their dating problems as I see men. I don't. At all. By any stretch. Both men and women aren't doing the same things at the same level. What we do have is men who want to attack women online and then also wonder why women don't want to date them. Things aren't the same when it comes to women. Your ideas crumble when examined.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/26 08:27 PM
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So he spends a lot of time and effort on a girl who he has zero compatibility with? That seems fucking stupid.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/26 08:01 PM
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So they are going to spend their time and effort on a girl who doesn't match their own values and won't give them what they want. And for all that time and effort, they end up with a negative date experience. And we are the clueless ones?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/26 07:35 PM
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No, people like me call out men when they make weak excuses as to why they can't do something.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/26 04:41 PM
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Social skills help you understand what girls you are into and what girls you aren't so you don't go on dates with people with incompatible values. I've never seen more clueless of very basic ideas. Go out with those who match what you want and avoid those who don't is a pretty basic idea.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/26 04:39 PM
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And I don't care what you think is true. Those who see walls are fucked. Those who don't are actually fucked.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/26 04:37 PM
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Lots of dudes here are saying that since men have reduced options they need to date anyone they can. I've seen that said multiple times.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/26 04:36 PM
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Just you saying that they are exceptions doesn't make it so. It just means you are a bit out of touch. Don't you know couples.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/26 04:09 AM
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I attack shitty ideas. men seem to have more of them.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/26 03:30 AM
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But those aren't exceptions. Those types of relationships exist all over the show. You just ignore them for reasons.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/26 03:29 AM
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The antecedent to the pronoun we is all those who could help.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/26 03:28 AM
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Yep. through I also know some other short dudes of this generation who do pretty well. If you see walls, you find them. If you don't, you have better outcomes.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/26 12:13 AM
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I am not. If you want certain things date a person who also wants those things. That advice seems to be scaring men
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/26 10:53 PM
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You were boring thus women didn't want to hang out with you anymore. You didn't make the effort. Why should a woman date someone she finds boring? Make your case.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/26 10:52 PM
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Why do you want to date women who you won't be compatible with? That makes no sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/26 10:50 PM
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Why do you want date women you are not compatible with. That seems like a stupid idea
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/26 10:48 PM
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So you think men going on dates with women who dont match their values and what they want is working. That seems like a dumb fucking idea, but if thats what you wajt go for it
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/26 10:47 PM
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So you asked people who dont know you for personal advice, didn't thank anything of them, and then attacked and judged them? Thats an asshole move. Did you thank any of them for trying to help you or did you just judge them? If all you did, to the people who tried to help you, was judge them, thats an asshole move. Did you thank anyone for their help or did you just judge them and talk behind their back? Which was it?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/26 10:40 PM
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If you didn't flirt with a girl or make her feel special she's not going to have that much of a connection with you. You can get upset with me for pointing that out...or you can try to work on that. Because yes, if you are too sexual before you built up a connection that won't work.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/26 10:36 PM
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No, they aren't. But if someone wants help, they should thank those who are trying to help them. If they just want to judge those who took the time out of their day to offer help, they are assholes.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/26 09:57 PM
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If a man doesn't want to date a woman who wants him to pay for a first date, if that's something he wants to complain about, he shouldn't date that woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/26 09:55 PM
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Yes, everyone who proves you wrong must be an outlier. It sure as hell can't be that they made different choices than you and those choices lead to different outcomes. No, that can't be the case. God forbid, your self made prison actually is wrong. At this point, be alone for the rest of your life. That does seem to be what you really want. It is almost like you are doing your best to be alone. I guess that's what you want. Be alone and safe. That's what you want after all.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/26 09:54 PM
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If you don't want a woman who wants the man to pay for a date why the fuck are you dating a person you don't want to date? That makes zero sense. If that's your deal breaker that's your dealbreaker. Do you just want to date her anyway and then feel resentful. Is that that plan? Date those people you think you fit well with based on what you want. That seems like pretty dang good advice.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/26 09:50 PM
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Yes, why should men go after women that don't meet their needs That's a set up for failure. And a waste of time.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/26 09:47 PM
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You can vent. Just know that venting doesn't do anything to help you. IF all you do IS vent, you are going to have a hard time. Getting past the point of venting to where you make choices can help. venting is often just impotent rage.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/26 09:46 PM
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Those are the two options.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/26 09:44 PM
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If you don't want to pay for a date have the stones and tell a girl you don't' pay for first dates. If that's a deal breaker for you, tell people.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/26 09:43 PM
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She isn't wrong. Like this is pretty dang good advice. If this upsets you, the problem isn't this post. It is something else.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/26 09:42 PM
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So you were boring and you wonder why no woman wants to date you? And you didn't flirt? Or make her feel special or sexy? And you wonder why she wasn't that into you? I mean you see the problem there right?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/26 09:41 PM
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If I guy thinks that a girl is into him jut because he's the last resort that's more a problem with his insecurity and self esteem. That's much more on him than any women he is with. That self sabotage is self inflicted.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/26 09:39 PM
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Funny how my friend who is 5 3 kills it with ladies because of his massive amount of social skills. Funny how that works. If you want to find walls, you will find them. And it seems you want to go out of your way to find walls.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/26 09:37 PM
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Yes, but social skills helps you find those are into you. And lets you ignore those who aren't. Social skills has helps awkward men fall into relationships for all of time. Until this generation who somehow felt that they aren't needed. While have the least sex and feel the least confident towards women.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/26 09:36 PM
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Why would I be defending myself. Nothing you said was threatening.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/26 09:29 PM
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If men want to bitch and moan and blame others for their problems they get to. others just get to react to that.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/26 09:28 PM
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Why should we help. You aren't thankful or grateful for help. You had zero words of thanks for those who tried to help you. You just want to judge people.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/26 09:26 PM
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You asked a bunch of strangers for advice and you are shocked you didn't get personal advice? Why did you ask you real life friends? Those who know you? And why don't you know what it takes for a man to stand out in a good way. Why is this something you need to ask strangers for help on? And when you criticize people trying to help you the right response from those people is to tell you to go fuck yourself. You weren't looking for help. You were looking to judge those who tool the time out of th…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/26 09:24 PM
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Those men have chosen zero level of success. That's what they chose. If they want to blame someone they should look in a mirror. Fortune favors the bold and they chose to be cowards. Cowards live lonely lives.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/26 09:09 PM
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IF you ever went out you would find how wrong you are. Average men and average women date all the time. IF you want to call that settling that's you finding the worst out of life. The people you think are settling are happy, in love and having sex. ARe you happy, in love and having sex?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/26 09:07 PM
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So aren't you just ignoring all the times when a girl finds a good guy and they date and have sex, which is something that happens all the time. Seems like you taking a narrow slice here. And different women want different things so it seems like a bad idea to try to lump them all in together.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/26 03:08 PM
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This is pretty much spot on. As it the whole bit about men who hide in the dark, so to speak and who never talk to women or do social things, who then wonder why women aren't swooping in and dating them.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/26 02:49 PM
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I learned to be confident in you own own skin. I learned how to talk to people. I also gained a bit of wit and listening skills, but that just came with me doing me. I didn't learn those skills to date. I just learned them to live. I think people are starting to understand this. You learning dating skills, you are learning communication skills and you are using them to date.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/26 02:42 PM
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Average women and average men do date all the damm time. As evidence if you go out on a Fri or Sat night. Do you think every couple you meet is made of supermodels. Nope. My only conclusion is that those who make your argument have never gone out.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/26 02:35 PM
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IF a man is only comfortable with a younger women he has more power over that is kind of sad and pathetic. If he is able to have sex before her, but he wants her to be a virgin that also sad, insecure and pathetic
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/26 02:33 PM
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So, then isn't the man also using that woman's resources to get that apartment? In that example the man is using some of the woman's resources to get a place he can't afford on his own. You can admit that right? But if this is when you need to parrot the line, go for it I guess.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/26 02:32 PM
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Yet you are wrong here. Most of those women aren't dating for money as it takes two incomes to live these days and most people don't' combine their incomes when they date. Are you open to the ideas that your wrong notions or wrong, or are you going to parrot them on command?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/26 02:30 PM
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45 percent of young men are too cowardly to even ask a girl out but you want to blame women. Bless your heart.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/26 02:22 PM
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And if you go out on a Friday night on a Coll. Campus you will see how wrong it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/26 05:42 AM
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If you went out and socialized you saw that aver. men and aver. women were hooking up all the time. They were dating all the time. You seem to be the one gaslighting yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/26 05:41 AM
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They already get benefits. If you sign up for the military, fighting and then dying is always an option. That's what you sign up to do. That's the job.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/26 05:37 AM
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I would give benefits to anyone who didn't vote for Trump and got drafted. IF you voted for Trump, you agreed to go and fight for any wars he started when you made him commander in chief.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/26 05:35 AM
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Maybe men shouldn't have voted for the party that is sending them to war. Since they did, die for pedophile. just like you wanted. May you get the day you voted for.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/26 05:29 AM
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I'm married now, but back in the day I used to date to have a good time with the person I was with. Losers Back Home are still Losers Back Home. That women doesn't love you. She is just using you for money. And if you have a kid, her family owns you. A loser is always a loser. LBHs are laughing stocks.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/26 05:24 AM
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I would worry about your relationship with god. Do you use your Bible as toilet paper or do you read it. You just confessed to some mighty sins there.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/26 05:14 AM
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I dont mind that those losers exist. It is just sad and pathetic when try try to brag.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/26 02:44 AM
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Men are responsible for their own choices right? Aren't you just making excuses for the poor choices of men.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/26 02:09 AM
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They get your money. She and family own your ass.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/26 01:38 AM
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So if you have to prey upon poor women in order to get laid you are a fuxking loser.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/26 01:33 AM
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If you have to prey upon poor women inorder to get laid you aren't winning anything. Lbhs are pathetic.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/26 01:19 AM
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If men thought it was something they shoukd have advocated for, they should have done the work. They chose not to and now they want to complain.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/26 01:17 AM
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You think pathetic sex pats who have to go to Asia to have sex are winning? There is a reason we call them losers back home.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/26 01:12 AM
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Do you know the history of domestic violence in that country? Or was that article the first time you cared about it?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/26 12:50 AM
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How many people? All of them or just one?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/26 12:37 AM
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I mean men could advocate for themselves at any time. Do they?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/26 10:56 PM
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If I have issues with women I have issues with specific women. It would be stupid for me to give something to ALL women as all women don't do what I would be addressing.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/26 10:09 PM
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Why don't you ask them.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/26 09:56 PM
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Asked and answered. I think that men have diminished themselves far more than women contributed to any level of lessering. Men went online and made millions of anti female comments and then were shocked that women didn't want to date them. And it once of the greatest mistakes men made. And that choice lead to where lots of men are right now...alone. Whose fault is that? Men or women?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/26 09:29 PM
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Why do you think I'm defending anything. I just have asked were men unable to advocate for the same ideas that women were advocate for. Because it seems that men didn't advocate for that idea.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/26 09:26 PM
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Are you not answering my question for a reason? Any my question first, and then we can talk. IF you chose not to, there isn't reason to talk to you. In 1996 were men unable to advocate for their wishes?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/26 09:09 PM
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I think that men have done a much better job of diminishing men than any other source. Did feminism cause men to flock to online spaces and make millions of anti female comments? Or did men do that?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/26 09:08 PM
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When I went to multiple MRA groups I saw a lot of misogynist posts and they were supported. The association seems to come from men allowing those people in their groups.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/26 08:52 PM
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You want to blame the media over men's rights groups who became havens for incels and those who wanted to attack the media. That sounds like another excuse. Those groups were responsible for the shit they allowed. No one else. stop making weak excuses.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/26 08:51 PM
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Men have the right to go to school. They are just choosing not to. The have the right to fight for custody in family court. They are just choosing not to. Choices have consequences right?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/26 08:49 PM
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So couldn't men back in 1996 advocate for their own ideas just like those feminists did? If so, why didn't they?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/26 08:48 PM
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What rights do you think that men don't have today?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/26 08:46 PM
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This is an excuse and a cop out. You want to be safe more than you want to advocate for ideas you think are valid. Do you think that those who matched for civil rights weren't also providing for their families? If you are too scared to advocate for what you think is right, that's on you. You have the right and the ability to do, you just don't have the desire.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/26 08:45 PM
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You seem to be doing a much better job of neutering your own advocacy than anyone else. If you want to say something, say it. That's what others had to do. People had to say that women were people should have voting rights. People had to say that black people shouldn't be slaves. But you are too scared to speak your mind? If you are too much of a coward to advocate for ideas that should be advocated for that blame lies with you.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/26 08:39 PM
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Your ideas get refuted by real life all the time. Take the idea that women are only dating the top 20 percent of men. Said in your spaces all the time. Going out on Friday blows that one out of the water since you see normal men dating normal women all the time. When confronted with that fact, you double down on on your incorrect ideas. You proclaim that your group doesn't hate women. When confronted on the hundreds of thousands of anti female comments that have come from you spaces, you change …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/26 08:28 PM
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Please think this has merit. Tell everyone far and wide about it. Stand a room and present this. Nothing would bring me greater joy.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/26 08:23 PM
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I do. You have zero idea of anything you are talking about as evidence by whatever this is. You seem to lack the ability to make a strong and calculated argument. This is an example of some of the poorest made arguments one could make ands because of that there is zero reason to take anything you have to say seriously. I could keep on going, but I think you get the point. You wrote drivel.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/26 08:16 PM
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This view is the dumbest argument ever made on the internet today. IF you attempted to present this in an forum you would be laughed out of the room. This is embarrassing. The only idea that is soundly grounded is that you have zero idea as to what you are talking about.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/26 07:59 PM
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What? This is a joke right? If not...wow. If this isn't a joke, these are the worst arguments even made on this sub.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/26 07:51 PM
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Men with that mindset are going to be shunned, black listed and banned. Men without are going to have a much easier time flirting, dating, having sex and and getting into real relationships. Your argument is fatality flawed. If the girl you were with now knew how much you hated women would she still be with you? Don't give me your arrogant I can do nothing wrong answer, which we both know is part of your mental condition. Give me what would happen in reality. Funny how more men have adopted that…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/26 06:28 PM
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People avoiding you and shunning you and letting others know you should be avoided does affect your life. You aren't getting invited to places. You aren't creating friendships.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/26 06:07 PM
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Lonely men probably send those signals and ideas faster as they have a lower level of social skills. Or they spend so much of their time interacting online that those interactions become their real personality. Do you really think that someone with poor social skills who hates women is going to know how to flirt? Or can show a woman a good time?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/26 05:57 PM
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People can only hide who they are for so long. Eventually they will slip. Or the red flags will shine through.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/26 05:54 PM
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You also know that arrogance and feelings of superiority is a symptom of that too right? Which means you might be thinking you are pulling off lies, when you aren't. People just have seen you for who you are and have pulled away. But you still think you are spotless. I've had encounters with someone who had the same thing. They thought they were pulling the wool over everyone's eyes. They weren't. They were known far and wide and heavily avoided. The core idea of your condition is that you never…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/26 05:43 PM
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Do you think you really have the social skills to run that long of a con? If all you are is a lie you will be found out. It will only be a matter of time. And then she will blacklist you and blast your shit to all of her friends warning them. Or ban you from bars or do whatever else she wants. Most people with this plan aren't as smoothe or as socially aware as they think they are.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/26 05:29 PM
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Those views are still going to affect your mindsets right? If you spend hours making anti female comments about women do you think you can just turn that off during a date. What if she asks to see your only history and you refuse to show her? That's a major red flag.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/26 04:29 PM
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Are you going to answer my question?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/26 01:11 AM
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I dont really see marriage as something the left is against. Hell, the left has been fighting for more people to get that right.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/26 07:27 PM
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The women I know in my life are confident. It is very common to find confident women. What those men dont want to deal with is insecure men because thats a drag.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/26 06:42 PM
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My taxes arent going to go up a cent so men can have responsibility free sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/26 06:40 PM
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Depends on the engineer. I knew lots of people in stem who were dating in their youth. And I know lots who socialy isolated themselves, failed to learn social skills and were alone during that time.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/26 03:25 PM
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I really don't see any situation where a man would be getting rapped to pieces by his wife every night. If your examples are things that have never happened it weakens your argument. And yes, women do have to deal with husband shit. Many doctors don't tie their tubes based on the wants of their future husbands.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/26 03:23 PM
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What I doing is saying that your ideas are wrong based on ample evidence. Normal men are dating normal women all the time. I'm not saying he could be Leo. I am saying that normal people date all the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/26 03:18 PM
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If someone says that your arguments are comically bad to you multiple times is that them taking you seriously? If that's your take on this, that would explain a lot.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/26 03:13 PM
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So when you go out you don't see average dudes dating average people all the time. Because I do. All the time. Every time I go out.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/26 03:10 PM
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Did you stop dating or did women stop wanting to date you?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/26 03:09 PM
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You can just say that you aren't confident. Most women want a confident man so they don't have to deal with the insecurity issues of a non confident man.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/26 03:07 PM
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You have zero proof for your claim. There is zero reason to take you seriously.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/26 03:02 PM
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There is nothing to debate here as you have nothing of merit.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/26 03:00 PM
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So your ass.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/26 02:59 PM
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This seems to be your bad take on women than reality. I'm sure women see men as tools but not in the way you are thinking.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/26 02:57 PM
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Because that child's claim to resources is stronger than his claim to not paying them.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/26 02:28 PM
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People do hate abstinence only programs because they don't work and lead to high rates of teen pregnancy.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/26 02:27 PM
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In multiple places there are barriers to a woman getting her tubes tied because she might regret it in the future or she doesn't know what she is doing.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/26 02:24 PM
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I mean if you are told that things are always this way you are going to start seeing that pattern where it doesn't exist and ignore everything that breaks that pattern that breaks that pattern to keep your mental ideas intact. If you are told that all your problems are caused by women or someone else you will start to see that and confirmation bias will set it.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/26 02:24 PM
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their drafts? Whose drafts? The ones that conservatives what to do? Feminists and progressives aren't drafting you.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/26 02:14 PM
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There are a lot of social opportunities for those who want to take advantage of them. If you want to vol and build houses you have a path to that. If you want to do comm. Ther. you have a path to that. IT takes some work, but that true of everything.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/26 02:10 PM
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Progressives get to want to be married. That's an odd got cha. The horror. People getting married.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/26 02:07 PM
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She doesn't have to how you anything. It is creepy as hell that you think she has to show you anything. No one has to have children if they don't want to. If this bothers you that's your problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/26 02:01 PM
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What fucking hubris? Do you also attack single men that same way. She doesn't want to have kids. That's not hubris.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/26 01:57 PM
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The average guy is also dating. I mean when you go out on a Friday night it isn't like you are just seeing super models. You see average men dating all the time. But if you are an average guy who doesn't have social skills or who has spend hundred of hours in anti female sites you are going to have a hard time.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/26 01:56 PM
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It seems like men want to chose not to date and still want to complain to everyone how bad they have it.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/26 01:54 PM
1

I've seen a lot more negative comments from men to women than I've seen the opposite. I mean how many times do you have men here blaming women for all their problems.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/26 04:07 AM
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But it sure as hell allowed a massive ton of anti women comments. Which were upvoted and supported.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/26 04:02 AM
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So all those hateful anti woman statements in red pill spaces weren't men being hateful from echo chambers?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/26 03:34 AM
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I am going to blame the dead bears dads far more then people who do the work.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/26 03:30 AM
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So if you go online in male dominated spaces how common is it to see anti female content? I found it common. You have men blaming women for all types of their problems. You see guys who took to men like Tate. How many negative ideas are men expressing about women on the regular in their online spaces?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/26 03:05 AM
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I will blame thee dead beat ten thousand times as much as I blame the one who stays and does the work.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/26 02:38 AM
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So we blame the one who stays and parents and does the hard work and we let off the deadbeat loser. Fuck that noise.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/26 02:32 AM
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So you want to blame the mother who does the work, and shows up and does the hard part of parenting as much or more than the guy who does nothing but cheat on her with a 23 year old and then abandon his child? That's pretty fucked up.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/26 02:07 AM
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If you are part of a married couple and one of those names is the base for the marriage visa things are easier if those names match. Also when you are crossing international borders as a married couple things are easier if your names match.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/26 12:01 AM
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You just said that idea wasn't be yourself....it was the work. So yes, someone did forget that bit. I'm not arguing that. I'm claiming that if that's a shock to you than you have more problems. if you do an act, you are going to default to who you really are. You can't pretend forever. You are going to be yourself. So you do need to make that the best that can be. And if your plan for that is just to pretend to be something you aren't..you will fail. If you are a dude who likes birdwatching...be…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/26 08:26 PM
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Just because odd people exist doesn't mean you have to listen to them. It is your life right? Make your own choices.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/26 08:21 PM
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Being forced to do something is bad. But an idea existing that others do that you don't have to isn't that bad.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/26 07:57 PM
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You are going to be yourself no matter what you try. The act can't be forever. No shit it is the work. Are men so stupid that they think that growth happens without work? If men really felt that they would do no work and things would be handed to them they set themselves up. That wasn't the fault of anyone else. Are they that delusional that they don't' think they have to put in the work? Improving how you present yourself isn't faking, but trying to be something that you aren't is. But did men …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/26 07:44 PM
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That advice is usually given to men because some men think they have to put on a performance or be something that they aren't. Which backfires since they will forget the act at some point. You will show yourself to any dating partner. YOu can't avoid it. And yes gaining the confidence to be yourself does take work. Like everything else. That's just expected. If someone thinks this is just handed to them that's on them. Why did men need to be handheld and told to improve. Why wasn't that just som…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/26 06:46 PM
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If you are choosing to be a perpetual victim without agency you are going to have a rough path.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/26 06:42 PM
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MY wife and I lived overseas and it was best, with visa and international crossing and a foreign marriage license, to be married with the same last name.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/26 06:39 PM
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If you want to wallow in your victimhood that's going to be a lonley and hard road.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/26 06:34 PM
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I see more than you will ever see. You see your biases and stop there. That's where your perception stops. I see what there is to see. How dare I think for myself and examine things. You can't have that right?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/26 06:28 PM
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You clearly have zero idea what you are talking about. This is a joke right?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/26 05:18 PM
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yes, but lesbians aren't caring at all about how to attract men as they aren't trying to. Are you dressing to attract gay men as they are the ones who pick male fashion? Per you, you are.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/26 05:03 PM
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I have never really found a red pillar that was acting in completely good faith. They often think that anything that doesn't match their biases is confirmation or survival bias or an outliers and not any indication that perhaps their black and white thinking of the world is wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/26 04:57 PM
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You lesbians are dressing and factoring the male gaze into their thought process when it comes to their outfit? You know that makes zero sense right?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/26 04:54 PM
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You don't have any clue what you are talking about. If you think that women are doing things just for men you are clueless as to how this all works.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/26 04:52 PM
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Don't most men know that women wear make up, so there is zero manipulation going on? If you said to someone that you were tricked by a women wearing make up most people would blame you and not that women. DO you really want men to broadcast that they are too stupid to know that make up exists? You got it man. Men are too stupid to know that make up exists. Those poor pathetic victims.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/26 04:48 PM
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It is a free fall for you. It isn't for everyone. I don't need a parachute. I just chose not to jump off the cliff. That is an option. All you are doing is leaning into your victimhood. It defines you. All of you experiences as based on the perspective of how much of a victim you are. That's all you see. Any idea that is based on you not being a victim is ignored. Any ideas that are based on you being a victim are leaned into to. Everyone can't be fulfilled. Someone with your mindset is going to…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/26 04:27 PM
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Yes, since I don't live a life based on victimhood I am better. I skip over the pitfalls that you lean into. I get it. You are nothing more than a helpless victim. You have no personal agency. You are nothing more than a weak and pathetic victim at the mercy of all others. Better? Does that make you feel more comfortable.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/26 03:51 PM
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So when people didn't say mean things about short people did you also record that? Or were all those comments ignored.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/26 03:47 PM
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So there aren't a bunch of men who make fun of fat women? That doesn't happen in your world?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/26 03:46 PM
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SO then do your anecdotes that short men are picked on also not counting as facts? So without your anecdotes, what do you have? Nothing?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/26 03:45 PM
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I would respond to this if I had any clue as to what you were saying.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/26 03:40 PM
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It isn't just their looks. It is their complete lack of personality and their anger they have towards women. Looks is a cop out. You have expressed anti female ideas multiple times. Are you successful with women?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/26 03:39 PM
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Male "exploitation." Man men have really done a deep dive into male victimhood. Yes, you are nothing more than a helpless and pathetic victim. Your victimhood defines you. You have zero power, personal responsibility or agency. Feel better?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/26 03:38 PM
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Did you forget that men are nothing more than helpless victims at the mercy of others have have zero autonomy or personal responsibility. You have to promote male victimhood at all costs. Can't let the idea of personal responsibility enter the picture.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/26 01:55 PM
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That's because women get sadeled with the burden of domestic chores more often than men do. Men aren't slaves. They just gave away responsibility and now want to scream victimhood. Victimhood is very important to certain young men. They are nothing more than helpless victims at the mercy of others.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/26 01:54 PM
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That "nonsense" works all the time still. You all just pretend that it doesn't. There are guys who are themselves who date, flirt and have sex. All the time. You mention confidence and competence like the people who be themselves aren't already using that idea. It is like you came late to the party and placed your flag in ideas that others have been doing forever and claimed them as yours.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/26 01:52 PM
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Not all of them. Lots of those men are single and will have hard times finding anyone based on their choices and the path they have walked down. They are single because they offer nothing to a potential dating partner. You seem to not like that reality.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/26 01:48 PM
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Than I better not hear those men complain when they are alone. They chose their path. Now they get to walk on it.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/26 01:44 PM
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Yes. Why are you so tied to certain false ideas that when confronted with evidence that they are wrong you still have to create ideas in your head? Yes they are into them.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/26 01:43 PM
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If I keep on seeing the same ideas being expressed in red pill spaces the idea that those aren't red pill ideas gets thinner and thinner and thinner. We somehow get this attempt to edit where ideas that are commonly expressed in red pill spaces somehow aren't red pill ideas because of reasons.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/26 02:41 AM
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But they don't decenter women. They gather and bitch and complain about women. All MTGOW groups are just a bunch of men bitching about women.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/26 06:49 PM
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SO then you agree that those men have zero leverage and thus your argument isn't all that thought out. No one cares about a bunch of losers who want to complain about women. They are embarrassing. They aren't a force to have to deal with.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/26 06:28 PM
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IF you think that dating only leads to exploitation that seems to be your problem. For me dating lead to happiness, sex and companionship.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/26 05:25 PM
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So women are to blame for the actions of men?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/26 03:19 PM
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I just think that they are laughing at a group of people who claim to go their own way and then spend a lot of time and effort bitching and complaining about women. And I really don't think that women would care if men wanted to take them selves out of the dating pool. It isn't as much leverage as you think.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/26 03:12 PM
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The core problem seems to be men thinking that if they give up and go home this is will cause people to care about them.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/26 03:08 PM
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You are the one asking for it right?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/26 04:11 AM
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You cant just take anyone successful and claim they are red pillers. You are taking credit for work you didn't do. Because there are millions of blue pilers who are in happy relationships. Lots of them are the naturals you talk about.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/26 03:04 AM
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Maternal instinct is based on connection. Why would someone care about someone they arent connected to?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/26 03:01 AM
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This is just actions speak more than words. If red pillers want to have certain ideas not associated with them those ideas should not be so common in their spaces. They shouldn't be supported in their spaces. It is as simple as that.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/26 02:52 AM
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He is just talking to you. Maybe you are into it. Maybe it is what you want. Never know till you ask right? Can't blame him for shooting his shot.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/26 01:36 AM
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Men often do bother people. Such as asking a woman out if she is polite with them because she has to because she is at work. And men do handle rejection badly. As evidenced by the thousands of stories of women who have had to deal with men handling rejection poorly. And men do catcall women and make sexual comments to strangers. SO perhaps men shouldn't those things.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/26 12:19 AM
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So if he was surrounded by a hungry gay rugby team that was staring at him would that be okay? If they followed him and kept making unwanted sexual advance after sexual advance that would be okay? Is it so hard to see that unwanted sexual attention is bad?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/26 12:15 AM
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Like what precautions. Lock themselves up in a tower. Those women were walking on the street. If my friends gay rugby team hit on your in public and said how he wanted hold you down, smother your cries, and fuck your virgin ass till you screamed with pleasure would you still blame yourself. Would you?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/26 12:06 AM
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The man is making the choice to insult the same people he wants to date and you are taking his side and not calling him on his bullshit. I forget. Men are nothing more than pathetic, sad, embarrassing victims and everything else isn't not their fault. too bad no one wants to be with a pathetic victim. Let him slink away. Just like he wanted to. No one will care.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/26 12:00 AM
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Socially competent. Those who have the social skills needed to date.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/26 10:15 PM
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He isn't able to date because he made the choice to be someone who no one wants to date. He wants to date women but he goes out of his way to find creative ways to insult them? his lonely road is 100 percent based on his choices.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/26 10:14 PM
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You are walking away from dating. So leave man. Go on. Walk away. Based on what you just wrote there isn't a woman who is upset about this. Be alone. That's what you want right? Just know, when you want to blame others, your choices have lead you down this path.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/26 10:13 PM
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Would it be better if I said soothing lies? I mean I could have done that, but what would have been the point. Too many people are thinking that if they drop out other will seem them in peril and rush to their aid. Which harms them even more.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/26 06:15 PM
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I'm not. Go ahead and drop out. No one cares. You won't see people rushing to help. Women are upset that there are less levels of guys who are social competent, but they have fun with the ones who are. Those other losers...they aren't thought about at all. No one cares about you all. Go ahead and turn blue. You dropped out. Thus, no one cares about you. Run along now.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/26 04:13 PM
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You are taking your ball and going home. And then you are going to hold your breathe till you turn blue. Why do you think that doing that is going to cause a bunch of women to care about you. Why do you think that there is going to be this rush to try to understand you? You seem to think that you will cause this rush to understand. That seems like a poorly planned idea.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/26 03:50 PM
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No one sees those losers as a group that will provide for or protect them. So that threat is a bit meaningless.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/26 03:48 PM
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I was in those spaces. You had lots of angry dudes say whatever anti female idea they wanted. And those comments were massively upvoted and supported. I wouldn't call those places moderate. But the revisionist history is fascinating.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/26 01:10 AM
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And a willingness to take risks.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/26 09:36 PM
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Just say I cant refute a word you say. That would be better off ans more honest for us all. Thanks for admitting you cant do that.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/26 08:39 PM
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You are against extremes other than all the times you use them. Those times are all okay Everything else is wrong. You hear yourself right
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/26 08:37 PM
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Words are cheap. Actions are more telling. If you proclaim that certain idea aren't red pill then eliminate those ideas from your spaces. Because if we see those ideas in droves then they are red pill ideas. If the unhinged arr given shelter and support to share their ideas they are no longer fringe You seem to not want to do the work and the still get the credit. If this idea are so popular in your spaces it isn't our problem when we hear them. It is your problem that it is so easy to hear thos…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/26 08:29 PM
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Most men develop social skills so they can navigate those social interactions. Learning how to read a room does wonders. And most women dont expect magic but they do want a sense of connection with potential dating partners.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/26 08:25 PM
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You said that most of us have never been on date. Which is wrong. To the extreme You can admit that right?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/26 08:20 PM
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So you aren't able to refute a word I said without trying to change the subject? Seems like you aren't Call me not at all surprised.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/26 08:18 PM
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Yes it is a choice and people are responsible for their choices And most of what you say is so off the mark this it is hard to take you seriously. Funny in how you attempted to call people out on extremes you also went to extremes. Take care man.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/26 08:15 PM
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Until you all push back against something it is your stance. Actions speak louder than words. If it so common to see people who exposed to red pill ideas saying bullshit you can fault people for listening to what they have to say. Your spaces have to do better.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/26 08:06 PM
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If your message isnt being understood you cant blame the listener. You do have to examine the content and messages sent.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/26 07:59 PM
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So this is when you attempt to insult me vs. refute a word I said. Wow, that's a total surprise. lol If you are too cowardly to self advocate for what you want, that's your problem. That's not the problem of anyone else.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/26 06:33 PM
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Fortune does favor the bold.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/26 06:17 PM
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You are complaining about what you already have the power to do. Let any and all dating partners know that you will split dates. It isn't hard to do so. In fact, it is very easy to do so. You seem not willing to do that. But since you have dodged a simple question, my only conclusion is that you are a coward. You could communicate your desires, but you are too scared to do so. So you just complain.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/26 06:11 PM
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You already have the right to communicate to any and all dates that any date you will go on will be slit 50/50. Do you do that? Yes or no? It seems that you want to complain about something you already have power to do. Do you communicate that basic wish and desire? This is a yes or no question. If you dodge it again, I can only assume that you don't do that.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/26 06:05 PM
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You are complaining about something can already say to any dating partners. You can be upfront and honest and say that you will split any dates you go on. Do you do that?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/26 05:58 PM
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Good, but we we do live in a world where men do spend 200 to 300 on a date. Not all, but some. That who is being spoke to. I find it odd that claiming that something is a choice that somehow men decide to do gets labeled as men are bad. That's your perverse perspective. Are you that scared of personal responsibility that you have to blame "echo chambers" or anything else other than the idea that men are making choices. Because you do seem very scared of the idea that when men make choices they a…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/26 05:55 PM
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You can always ask that of any dating partner you have. Nothing is stopping you.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/26 04:15 PM
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Is he wrong. If I guy is deciding to blow 300 bucks on a dinner with a girl he just met he can't really complain. That was his choice. He didn't have to do that choice.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/26 04:14 PM
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I see what there is to see.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/26 12:42 AM
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Yes, but if I walk into a hentai section it isnt that hard to find depictions on young children.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/26 11:47 PM
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I already know you are wrong about travel. You dont need to keep on telling me that. You play piano. The exact same thing that millions of Chinese kids do. There isnt much unique about that.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/26 11:45 PM
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Can't that be said for travel?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/26 11:36 PM
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So then your hobby is useless. Your hobby only matters if people about your hobby. I really couldn't care less if you play piano. Neither would my wife. So your hobby is doing nothing. You aren't as special as you think. Something like playing piano only matters if others care about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/26 11:07 PM
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And your opinion that the things you do are cool and interesting, yet the things other do aren't matter for some reason? I used to live in Asia. Do you really think you playing the piano makes you at all unique
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/26 11:00 PM
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And those people often have lots of interesting stories from their travel. Like that time they drank with the Yakuza. Or when they met the major of their small island they toured and were given the real tour of the place.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/26 10:57 PM
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Only if that person cares that you play the piano. And not all will. MY wife wouldn't care at all if you play piano or not.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/26 10:49 PM
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Those average mem are already in relationships and having sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/26 06:50 PM
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Anyone doing a job like hers would have someone dealing with her money. At that point, you do pay someone to do that work. That doesnt inherently mean that she is being taken advantage of
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/26 06:46 PM
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Hentai is sexualized pics of very young looking women. You can look at hentai all you want. Others get to use that to determine if they want to be with you
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/26 06:41 PM
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Going out on a Friday proves your idea wrong. Average people are dating average people all the time
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/26 01:58 AM
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So you never go out? Because in the real world average women date average men all the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/26 01:16 AM
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No they don't. They just him as a useful idiot. But the only person who called trump a friend was epstien.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/26 01:07 AM
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He was able to manipulate the stupid or always argued from strength. That's why he gets he ass kicked when he talks with equals. Just because he ws able to foo morons doesnt make his social
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/26 01:06 AM
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If you are rude people are going to not wajt anything to do with you. You will be seen as an asshole that people dont want to associate with. You see to think that being as asshole means you have good social skils. That seem like a very confident person who making a very incorrect conclusion.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/26 01:03 AM
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That person made a choice to become a teacher or enter the medical field. Funny how when you decide to do that you end up teaching or in the medical field. Thus no one was forced to do anything. They made a choice. No one should be forced to date anyone they don't want to.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/26 12:58 AM
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Same as education. No one is forced to date someone if they dont want to.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/26 11:40 PM
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I mean dudes are talking to women, flirting with them and dating them and having sex all the time. They are just making different choices than the guy who never talks to women and wonders why he is alone. That man deserves to be alone.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/26 10:24 PM
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I get that you want to be nothing more than a helpless victim. No one wants to date those who see themselves as helpless victims.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/26 10:23 PM
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IF clear and open communication is beyond you than you should be cut out of the dating pool
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/26 10:21 PM
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She probably just didn't want to share that with you. She would have been perfectly wanting to share that with someone she wanted to be with.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/26 10:20 PM
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That's what taxes are. If you support those ideas, quit bitching and moaning about taxes. You live in a world where the government gives you multiple advantages and then you get taxed.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/26 10:18 PM
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I think they are complaining that there aren't many men who have confidence and social skills. It does seem that men seem to not want to gain those skills and then still complain when they are single. It is like they don't want to audition for a play and still complain that they aren't getting lead roles.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/26 04:06 PM
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But that's what you are wanting. You want the government to create programs that convince women to date men they currently don't want to date. Right? You want to shame people when you think they are dating people they shouldn't date. Right? You did just advocate for these ideas.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/26 04:04 PM
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So you want to use the roads, an educated population, and governmental systems without wanting to pay into those systems. You sound like the thief. To hold that view you need to also proclaim that you won't ever use any of the benefits of those taxes. If you ever get sick, don't go to a doctor. Die. If your car breaks down, don't go to a mechanic...fix it yourself. Would you do that? Or do you just want to complain and still free load?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/26 04:02 PM
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Dating isn't a human right. Dating is a act between two people. People have the right to want to date you. They also have the right to not want to date you. And if they express the latter right you aren't being harmed in any way.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/26 03:59 PM
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You place words in the mouths of others and then scream double standards. Which is odd for someone who claims that others are making bad faith arguments.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/26 03:58 PM
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She's isn't poisoning anything. She seems to be asking basic questions that those who hold to that view should be able to easily answer.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/26 03:56 PM
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So you want the government to encourage women to date men that they aren't interested in?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/26 03:55 PM
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Your first sentence is a creation of your own head and not their ideas. Average looking women date average looking men all the time. And people get to date those they want to date. They don't have to date anyone they don't want to date. If women don't want to date you, they don't have to date you.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/26 03:54 PM
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Lots of men have never asked out a women, in any level. There isn't a difference between cold or warm...they haven't done any of that.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/26 03:34 PM
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But you are able to clear and open communication with someone you are dating to talk about this stuff right?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/26 03:33 PM
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Which leads to this crazy idea of having clear and open communication with any potential partners about what they want and what they don't want.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/26 03:32 PM
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If you are an adult and you have failed to learned a skill that is on you. You aren't a 2nd grader, dependent on others, you are an adult. So I don't agree. If a person fails to learn social skills that was their choice. They aren't fucking kids who must be coddled. They are adults who can make their own choices. I get that it is easier to blame others for the choices a person makes, but that's just a tad sad and pathetic and reeks of victimhood.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/26 03:30 PM
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Since it is reported in other places as well, I'm going to go with the failure to develop social skills.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/26 03:27 PM
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So men cant ask questions and bring up thoughts? I mean we have that ability right?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/26 03:33 AM
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Not if you know how to read non verbal communication. And that's not your only tool in the toolbox.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/26 02:43 AM
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If you decide not to practice open and honest communication they become hard. If you are able to do so, they stop being so hard.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/26 02:42 AM
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Aee you sure about that. Because that's happened to my female friends and it was creepy as hell for them. They never were as into it as you want to make them be.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/26 02:41 AM
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Once again, open and honest communication becomes your friend. You can talk about what you like, what you want and what you don't want. What you are willing to try and the right context. Works wonders.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/26 02:32 AM
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yes, people want to have sex with who they want to have sex with and they don't want to have with whom they don't' want to have sex with.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/26 02:28 AM
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Hmm if only there was something called honest and open communication that could help you navigate this all. And it does require understanding of social cues and how to ask questions and listen. As much as you want the world in clear black and white we live in shades of grey. And we navigate that by communication.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/26 02:28 AM
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Failure to develop and practice them. Their choice to socially isolate. Men are responsible for their own choices right? Are you just nothing but victims at the mercy of forces outside your control
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/26 02:24 AM
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Yet, men talk to women every single day, flirt with them and date them. If you don't have the courage or confidence you can't be upset when you aren't dating someone. And you can cry and complain all you want. No one has to care. The can just say, "Since you are too much of a coward to talk to a woman the only one responsible for you being alone is you" and then walk away. As they rightly should
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/26 02:23 AM
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Yet you made a laundry list and never included the most important reason.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/26 08:47 PM
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So you aren't factoring the lack of social skills among young men. That seems like an odd thing to omit. If a man doesnt have thrown courage or confidence to talk to women they cant be shocked or upset when they are alone
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/26 08:40 PM
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For someone who claims to be in the middle of the road you have covered or deflected or justified male problems to a massive extent that you haven't done when talking about women. You have focused on your perceived problems of feminism without talking about any problems women face. And you seem to be very much into the idea of male victimhood and coddling and protecting men from their own choices. Men have made the choice not to gain the needed social skills to talk with women. So 45 percent of …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/26 02:59 PM
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Yes, they do. Those "balls" you talk about is social confidence to navigate social spaces.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/26 02:53 PM
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People with social skills don't really have any problems asking women out.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/26 02:19 PM
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45 percent of them have not ever even asked out a woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/26 02:12 PM
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Most men don't' have the needed social skills to date. Instead of blaming women...start there. Blaming women for the problems of men is a tad sad an pathetic and reeks of victim hood.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/26 01:54 PM
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45 percent of men in that age group don't have the confidence or courage to even talk to women or ask them out. That's not the problem of women.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/26 01:52 PM
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Things were an echo chamber. Those ideas weren't confronted. You had tens of comments piling on and reenforcing the idea that all of their problems came from women. Their posts were heavily upvoted and supported. So they weren't confronted...unless massive support and upvotes is your version of confrontation. What those women are reacting too is the legion of men who DO blame women for all their dating problems. These are the men who don't have the courage to ask a woman out blaming women for th…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/26 04:20 AM
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45 percent of young men haven't asked a girl out. They don't have the courage or confidence to do that simple first step. I don't know how we can blame women when men don't even have the social skills that their father's did.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/26 02:16 AM
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So, you see posts where men blame women for all their problems. That happens here all the time. Have you ever called them out on their shit slinging? Or is just a deflection.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/26 02:14 AM
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I saw those men coddled and their posts where they said that women were to blame weren't just supported, they were commented on others who also agreed with them. I've been to your spaces. I saw was was heavily supported. It wasn't a angry phrase. It was just a place for men to be angry and vent and blame women for all their problems. They didn't get get called out on their bs. They were given a home to vent and complain and be angry. For a phase it sure as hell never seemed to end. I've been to …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/26 01:42 AM
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Yes, people tend to be upset when you blame them for things while taking zero level of personal responsibility.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/26 01:39 AM
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The red pill allows angry men an outlet to blame for all their problems. They aren't responsible for their own action and choices. Women can be blamed for all the their problems.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/26 09:27 PM
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And you aren't flawed? Or easily manipulated?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/26 09:21 PM
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If something is easy to find than it is representative. You can just dismiss it out of hand like you are wanting to do. You seem to want to minimize or spin from that idea that there are lots of aver. dudes who aren't willing to date average women. Is there a reason why you can admit that that fact is true?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/26 08:57 PM
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They can support it well. lots of average dudes to feel entitled to above aver women and are upset when they aren't able to get them. . You don't really have to search far and wide to find that idea. That sense of entitlement does exist and isn't hard to find.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/26 08:30 PM
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So, you are always wrong. At least your are consistent based on what you just wrote. I guess I can't expect anything other than what you do well. Kind of puts everything else you wrote in proper perspective. Thanks for telling me that.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/26 08:26 PM
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Yes, it is an observation and they are using that observation to come up with their ideas. You seem to be the one downplaying or minimizing. Lots of average men are upset that they can't get an 8 or 9. Lots of average men don't want an average gf.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/26 07:53 PM
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I'm already in a happy relationship getting as much sex as I need. Are you always that wrong. Instead of blaming higher costs for children you blamed women because you did blame women. Don't be a coward. Stand behind what you wrote. Don't' shy away from your words when you get called out on your bullshit.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/26 07:50 PM
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I mean can you. Are you going to make gross generalizations on a person you have never met. You are going to be wrong more than right.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/26 07:29 PM
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So instead of blaming capitalism and the rising costs of rising children these days you want to blame women.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/26 07:15 PM
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IT isn't a doge. It is an observation. lots of men are angry and mad and want to blame women for all their problems in dating. That's just the truth.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/26 07:07 PM
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I cant read your mind. And yes, she an independent person from you had her own thoughts and feelings on a subject. Which you seemed surprised about. Did you think she would have your exact point of view? If so, I see your problem. Just because you think one way is the best doesnt mean all see that same way as the best. Two people will compromise on communication. It isnt my way or the highway
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/26 12:58 AM
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No it isnt. Men are complaining that women are to blame for their dating problems. 45 percent of men aged 18 to 25 have never asked out a girl in their life. Thats not a female problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/26 12:54 AM
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IF you don't have the courage or confidence to even talk to a woman how can you blame them that you are single. That is like never auditioning for a play and then bitching you get no roles.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/26 11:29 PM
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So have you talked to her about this? Did you have an open and honest talk with her? Or did you just make this post? . You do seem at least a bit resentful. Thats an emotional reaction as well correct? Did you talk to her yet?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/26 08:35 PM
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I see posts blaming women for male problems far, far more than men taking any level of personal responsibility for anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/26 08:26 PM
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Did you prioritize spending time with her or did you prioritize other things. Are you tired when it comes to going out, but can play video games for hours? Did you tell her with ample notice or did you cancel at the last minute? Is there a pattern of you feeling tired when you are supposed to go out? Are you boring? Did she really want to do something and you screwed those plans over. She wanted to go out and you arr saying no. It would be normal to be upset at that. How much warning did you giv…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/26 08:23 PM
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You get to communicate things. And others get to to react to it. That's how communication works. And if you live in a house and are perceptive can't you see what needs to be done. Why do you need specific instructions? Don't you have eyes? It isnt like the dishes jump out and ambush you.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/26 08:10 PM
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No. A large percentage of young men have never asked a woman out as they dont have rhe courage or confidence to do so. You wan to blame women for the cowardice of men?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/26 08:03 PM
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So you want to blame women for the problems that exist. Is that how you want to he treated?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/26 07:52 PM
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So you want to attack and shame women and you think that this is going to make those women want to help you? Thats your plan? Seems like is it a poor one. Hey dipshit, I am going to blame you for all my problems...now can you help me move? See how that sounds? See how ineffective this idea actually is? Men blaming women is just going to turn them into whiny victims. And do you know who women dont want to date? Whiney victims You are far more likely to be told to pound sand than anything else tha…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/26 07:46 PM
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Sometimes you can call people on their bullshit without trying to get validation. They are just spreading bullshit. I always find it odd that after you call someone out on their bullshit they claim you are a simp or a WK. "I can't be making horrible arguments, so they must be wrong..." Calling someone a WK or a simp just seems to be a method of deflection and not reality.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/26 03:03 PM
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I didn't validate your ideas. I said your ideas were wrong and poorly thought out. That's not validation.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/26 02:16 AM
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Why does your opinion have any relevance to anyone else. If I don't like tomatoes does that mean they are hated by all?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/26 02:03 AM
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Do you? Because I am guessing you see what you want to see and ignore men who get laid who dont match your biases. How do you know who women are dating and having sex with?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/26 01:55 AM
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But that's how social intersction has always worked. You aren't going to do a deep dive on everyone. More so on people you are not into.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/26 01:49 AM
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You are the one who is claiming bad men. That was your idea.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/26 12:31 AM
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Yes, he was cast after an audition. And after looking at his references. I find it odd how so many men are willing to judge and blame women while holding the man who lies and misrepresents harmless. The women faces all the judgement and recrimination. The man who lies faces nothing.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/26 12:27 AM
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So you blame her and not he person who is lying?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/26 11:59 PM
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They aren't bad men. They are just men she doesn't want to date.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/26 11:54 PM
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When it comes to social interaction everything is based on perception. If someone's goal is to lie that can be hard to spot. I once cast an actor, who had good references, who became a drunk and had to be recast. Was that his problem for being a drunk and lying or my problem for casting what looked like a good actor for a role.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/26 11:53 PM
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If you were a guy in your 30's and you were dating someone 18-20 that would be a major red flag. I wouldn't be jealous. I would be creeped out.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/26 11:49 PM
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You can take it that way. It would stupid to do so, but I wouldn't stop you. You do you. But when you argument style is something that 4th grade teachers hear all the time you might want to reconsider your plan. Why is insulting women so important to you?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/26 11:14 PM
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I tend to think that large generalizations about billions of people is a pretty dang stupid thing to do. As you are going to be wrong all the time. Is there a reason that making negative generalizations about women is so important to you?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/26 11:12 PM
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You want to make anti female comments and you think that people responding to them is silence. I got you dead to rights here man. I'm not apologizing for shit. Are you too cowardly to say those ideas in public?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/26 11:11 PM
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Anywhere. You can say those things. There are just consequences for doing so just like all other speech.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/26 11:09 PM
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No, she was pretty accurate is that assessment. You just didn't like it so, you threw insults.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/26 11:08 PM
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You aren't being silenced.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/26 10:59 PM
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I mean I would count a negative generalization about an entire gender as a clear example of misogyny. Particularly if that generalization is wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/26 10:58 PM
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You just want to make anti female comments and think you are so entitled that no one gets to respond to them? That argument? Or the one where you are too much of a coward to say how you actually fee?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/26 10:47 PM
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Women don't tend to be cowardly. Just because you say something doesn't it true. Oh, wait are you too much of a coward to say what you really feel? If so, that's kind of amazing.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/26 10:43 PM
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Did you invent anything? OR are you trying to take credit for other's work?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/26 10:42 PM
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They did it too isn't a valid defense. You aren't in grade school anymore.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/26 10:41 PM
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You are being a misogynist if you call and entire gender cowardly. And those actions could, and rightly so, have consequences. If you thought that an entire gender was cowardly that would warrant a discussion with HR. And would probably lead to your firing or other consequences. Most companies aren't too keen on keeping people around if they offend 51 percent of the customer base.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/26 10:39 PM
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Do you not understand how discussion works when you aren't in echo chambers. You can say whatever you want. Others then get to respond to what you say. They get to disagree with you. They get to think you are an idiot and give multiple reasons why. You aren't being silenced. You are just stepping out of an echo chamber. In real life, people get to not want to be friends with you, not invite you out to social gathering and shun you. They also get to think that you are a moron or whatever else the…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/26 10:37 PM
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Are you always wrong?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/26 01:35 AM
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Is aso very easy to verify that you have multiple spaces where your female hating shit thus you aren't silenced. What you are experiencing is people reacting to your bullshit. Which happens once you leave echo chambers.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/26 01:29 AM
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Approaching, flirting with a cute girl all night and then dating her isnt a con. Thats the fun part.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/26 12:43 AM
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I mean do not they have that mindset. Most just say that if you are following a woman, at night, it could make her nervous. I find that when people have to exaggerate something to make their claim work it means that their claim didn't have much merit in the first place.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/26 11:38 PM
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I have zero idea of what you are saying because the grammar in this post is so poor. So, I can't really respond.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/26 11:30 PM
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Yet, it those posts you will see that man proclaiming that women are the cause of all their problems and never claim any level of responsibly for any of their choices. Men on this sub love to proclaim their victimhood. Speak up against and you get downvoted. Men need their victimhood. It defines them. Let me guess, you downvoted my post. Right?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/26 11:30 PM
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But your side isn't silenced. People just claim that they are silenced in order to claim victim hood.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/26 11:28 PM
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So you are looking for an echo chamber?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/26 10:39 PM
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Nope. If you blame women for all your problems, you get upvoted. If you go against the male victimhood claims, your post stays at zero.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/26 10:22 PM
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Yes, and that women isn't a representative of ALL women.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/26 09:49 PM
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The only posts I see with zero up votes and many comments tend to be from women. If a man claims how upset he is that post is normally upvoted. Blame women for the problems of men and it is certain to be upvoted.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/26 09:39 PM
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But then we are back to the start here. The problem is the advice of women. It is men choosing to use a bad dating strategy.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/26 07:25 PM
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Supply and demand did that. More men want sex with prostitutes than women who want to be a prostitute.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/26 06:10 PM
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So men are picking an idea that leads to bad outcomes and someone women are to blame for that? Because that person's ideas are the path to successful relationships. Yet you dismissed it out of hand. So it seems that the advice from women isnt the problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/26 06:06 PM
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None of that advice was advice I got from women This seems like more your own biased list designed to make women look bad than advice they actually give. Where ia be confident, learn how to have a conversation. Be interesting and have a sense of adventure.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/26 06:03 PM
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Once again, you are being very confidently wrong here. Is that your goal?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/26 05:54 PM
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So if you aren't taking any risks how exactly are you going to get into a relationship and have sex? This is kind of like saying that you have never got a part in a play, but you have also never auditioned for one. You are going to have to take a risk or continue to decide to take none.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/26 05:52 PM
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It seems like holding men accountable for their thoughts and actions scares you. I get it. It is so much easier to blame women for everything. I am married. I already have a women who is devoted to me. Is there a reason you had to insult me? Did that insult make you feel powerful?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/26 03:16 PM
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No. Since she isnt interested in dating anyone she isnt interested in dating anyone. Thats not really a hard concept to understand. But, maybe it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/26 03:13 PM
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Yes, I did. You mean the post where the op is 100 percent wrong. Yes, i did.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/26 03:12 PM
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Do you take any level of risks? Or do you always stay safe?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/26 02:25 AM
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At a fascist level...is this a joke?[
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/26 12:16 AM
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The reason that not being as asshole is stressed because most relationships form by men not being assholes. But nothing is handed to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/26 11:04 PM
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You can't really blame the content creators. You have to blame the men feasting on thair content. The creators are only giving men what they want
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/26 10:30 PM
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Yes. Thats how positive social interactions work. And yes you need to learn how to read the room. Thats also how social interactions work.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/26 10:28 PM
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I guess then men will continue to hate women and then wonder why no woman wants to date them. Because that is going so well for them
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/26 10:25 PM
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I never got that advice. I did get that not being an asshole improved your chances, but no there was never an idea that things would just be handed to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/26 10:23 PM
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If a man is stupid enough to think the stripper likes him thats on that man. The stupid are separated from their money.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/26 10:20 PM
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I have a female friend who just got out of an abusive relationship. She has zero interest in dating anyone right now. So you are wrong
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/26 10:04 PM
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So women are responsible if men lie to them? You are right. There never is accountability. Hell, half of this sub is men blaming all their problems on women So no, there zero accountability. There is just men blaming women for the problems of men. I couldnt agree with you more
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/26 07:11 PM
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You mean they are burdened wirh hours of extra work men dont seem to have to do?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/26 12:26 AM
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67 percent of new hiv cases come from men having sex with men. 67. That's not a small number.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/26 04:58 PM
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So two people have a child yet one is somehow responsible for doing diapers? And your time to do those things is shit. Seems like you have poor planning. Who does gutters in the heat of the day. Thats stupid. And how often in year do you fix a toilet?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/26 05:57 AM
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One person cooks and the other should do the dishes. If you like eating home cooked meals but cant clean a dish you are a childish asshole. Get over yourself and pull your weight
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/26 05:56 AM
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So if we want people held accountable for their actions we need an accurate retelling. The answer is personal responsibility. That's just a hard pill to swallow.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/26 05:02 AM
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Yes but they also got into those spaces and toxic anti female content that was made, read and supported by the masses in those spaces. It isnt like they found spaces that were positive. They used their spaces to attack and get back at all who "wronged" them. They supported men who killed women and referred to them with reverence. They lived out their revenge fantasies.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/26 04:50 AM
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Did they just find a community. Because they story seems to stop before it describe what they did in those communities. That seems like a big omission.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/26 04:36 AM
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If men make the choice to get radicalized, I am pissing into the ocean trying to stop the waves. People are responsible for their own actions and outcomes right. If they come up for air and want help, we can help them. If they are set in their ways..they chose their path.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/26 01:48 AM
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Yes. I also know how helping people works. You can help those who want to help themselves. Until then, they are out in the dark. People are responsible for their own actions. If they want to stay in the muck, they are in the muck.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/26 01:24 AM
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We can only help people who want to help themselves. If someone wants to make the choice to be toxic, there isnt much.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/26 01:15 AM
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These are just baseless hypotheticals. It isnt my fault if someone did that. It is the fault of the person who did such a thing If one wants to be helped, being a toxic and shitty person is a poor plan. Tell someone to go fuck themselves and then ask them for anything. See how that doesnt work.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/26 11:48 PM
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Yes, they get the bare minimum. But not much else. If they dropped their whole angry and toxic act and made amends..thats another story.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/26 11:40 PM
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Nope. The hell we don't. I dont help angry and toxic shits If someone makes the choice to be angry and toxic they can lead their angry and lonely life all by themselves. I don't have to lift a finger to help them. You want the right to both be a toxic little shit and be helped. You get one of those
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/26 11:38 PM
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If someone is being toxic, angry and anti female in their online spaces no one has to rescue them. We can just tell those people to go fuck off.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/26 11:34 PM
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Sorry, wrong person.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/26 06:23 PM
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Yes, but you would call unwanted sexual attention creepy right? Because you seem to be attempting to hedge on that idea.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/26 04:44 PM
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So then you are reversing your previous idea to a stance where something actually is creepy then?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/26 03:49 PM
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Well a man wanting sex with them when they dont who accosted them on the street or who doesn't take no for an answer IS creepy.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/26 03:27 PM
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So the respond to men doing a creepy thing is to proclaim that women should do something about it. They have the responsibility. Not the men doing the creepy thing?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/26 03:10 PM
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Every person that meets someone in real life flirts, dates and forms a relationship refutes your ideas. Those relationships are happening all the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/26 03:07 PM
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Men who have sex with men have a much higher chance of contracting studs which they can pass on to their female partners. If you look at new hiv cases men who have sex with men and women who have sex with men who have sex with men are at risk for getting the disease. Which is valid enough reason for someone to make a choice.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/26 02:57 PM
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Since more men commit violent acts that's why you end up arresting more men.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/26 02:46 PM
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Just because something is challenged doesn't mean that challenges are successful. Men do commit the vast majority of all violent crimes.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/26 02:44 PM
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Yes, it is. Just because you agree with something doesnt make it valid. It was a pile of horseshit. And thats an insult to horseshit If you think he said valid points, you may, but if you do there isnt any reason to talk with you. It has been a long day and I am not going to spend a second more on the worst arguments I've ever seen on this sub. If you, find a different dance partner
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/26 03:54 AM
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If you had the chance to be with a hot girl, would you take it?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/26 03:13 AM
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There is no reason to. This is just an I hate women post based on bullshit.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/26 01:37 AM
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And they have a net worth a million dollars. And the person they are dating doesnt.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/26 09:25 PM
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You describe power oddly. Like looks is the only thing that defines it. And no, not every single couple in their 50s is cheating.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/26 09:19 PM
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I find these observations to be more an indication of your bias and hate towards feminism than any real analysis. This seems to be a I hate feminism and you should too post. But lots of your explanations are very weak.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/26 02:37 PM
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Are you always that wrong?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/26 02:28 PM
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You are complaining and throwing insults because your feelings got hurt when someone said answer you didn't like. It doesnt matter that you aren't insulting anyone here. You still are so upset that you are insulting people.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/26 01:59 AM
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And you threw insults at those people. Right?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/26 09:29 PM
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Yes, she would be. The bears she has encountered have been predictable or unpredictable in predictable ways. And she has had hundreds of bear encounters. The men she has met in the woods have not been. Her answer is bear every time. You heard an answer you didn't like and you got upset and started throwing insults.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/26 09:05 PM
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Aren't you now advocating that men should be the biggest victims in the room? You seem upset if men aren't the biggest victims.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/26 08:02 PM
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Oddly enough, I asked that question to a female outdoor guide in Alaska and she also picked bear. And this woman had hundreds of encounters with bears.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/26 06:53 PM
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Yes, men sometimes lie. This isnt new news.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/26 05:19 PM
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No, they are in your feed.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/26 11:12 AM
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I have no idea why people who can't get matches don't' then shift over to trying to meet people in the real world.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/26 03:15 PM
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This is about the dumbest thing I've heard today. Thanks for sharing it.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/26 02:29 PM
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We dated for 3 months had a lot of fun and great sex. Sorry to disappoint.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/26 02:54 AM
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If you dont know the answers to that question one can only assume that you are perspectives on science seem quite limited. You aren't aware, over the centuries, the mistakes science has made? Okay then.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/26 10:40 PM
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No, it didn't. You can make that statement if you are willing to ignore or downplay all the multiple times when you were wrong. If your conclusion is that science was fine and dandy until women started doing it you are just blatantly wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/26 10:03 PM
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Most people want partners they can have fun with. Boring people don't meet that desire.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/26 09:40 PM
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So instead of addressing a word I said you go off on some unrelated tangent. Call me not surprised in the least
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/26 08:27 PM
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Yes because being social and dating people is exactly like being a billionaire.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/26 08:25 PM
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Mainly forces out of their control. But how thwy adapt is often based on their social networks.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/26 06:13 PM
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If the shoe fits man. Do think the working world is going to do all those changes we have done to try to make things better for boys. Do you think that us changing their world and not teaching young men to be adaptable and ask for help and navigate social spaces is leading to long term success? Are boys being more adaptable and social resilient: no they aren't. Are they learning coping strategies and self recue strategies like learning to ask for help when needed: No, in fact they are regressing…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/26 05:29 PM
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This is very much you advice. Not many others are going to be able to walk down this path and be happy. I sure as hell won't. MY friends group wouldn't.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/26 05:06 PM
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Those people are now dependent on their social networks. Same as we were during the Shanghai lock down. Social networks and connection got us all through. Social networks become more important during hard times, not less.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/26 04:56 PM
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And who invented plastics, knew their risks, suppressed those risks and failed to regulate those industries. Men, or all those feminists you think are also in the room.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/26 04:51 PM
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You think we didn't have those problems when men were in charge of science? This seems like just a woman bad post where you want to take dynamic problems and blame women for them.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/26 04:50 PM
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I see boys losing a lot of mental competitions. They are smart, but freak out if they have to adapt to a change. OR if they have to work with others. Or they rage out at a classmate and call them stupid and then wonder why not a single person on their group "likes them." They do sometimes perform better on trivia contests, but that's not all that common in the world.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/26 04:48 PM
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There have been some recent idea that changing everything to coddle boys backfires as those boys go into a work that isn't changed to meet their needs and they don't have the coping skills to handle it. Boys have behavioral issues and we try to change the environment or give them move movement or any of those ideas that we claimed would work rather than have high behavioral standards that we hold our male students to. Do you think if those men have a fight at work their boss is going to let them…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/26 04:42 PM
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Teaching is a hard job. As is nursing or caregiving. or any of those other jobs you dismiss out of hand in your hatred of women.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/26 04:29 PM
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Do you have proof that female teachers harm the learning outcomes of male students.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/26 04:25 PM
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Maybe tell men not to vote for people who don't care about environmental regulations. We already invest a lot in boys tutoring programs. Most of the money that goes into behavior remediation and support goes to male students. Young men are deciding not to go to school. Or, they decide to quit when it gets hard. There really isn't a barrier to entry to education. Men are just making the choice not to go.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/26 04:23 PM
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But you also have to take risks in life not always knowing how those choices are going to pan out. I took a risk to move to China. I didn't know how it would all work out, but it changed my life for the better. If I had waited to get all the info, I would have never boarded the plane.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/26 04:14 PM
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OR when people who have never really dated also use that word to talk about relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/26 04:11 PM
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It also depends on your habits. IF you and your partner cultivate bad habits you have a lot to unlearn and you perhaps have done a lot of damage to heal. If you started off your relationship with a commitment to treating each other right and not rings bells you can't unring, while hard it become easier. But even one comment or word that is sad in anger can be a bell that can't be unrung. And that can lead to a lot of difficulty.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/26 04:11 PM
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I mean I took a different path and it led to lots of success, but you do you. life your life in any way you wish. I'm not stopping you.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/26 04:03 PM
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Go ahead and do that. Just don't be upset where you are at. But it is your life. Do with it what you will. I won't stop you.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/26 03:51 PM
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I would take anecdotes over you tube any day. A lot of that content you think is good is all produced and fake pretending to be real. You understand how those vids are made from a production level right?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/26 03:49 PM
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With your attitude, no you aren't. If you think learning stops at 20 you tend to prove yourself right.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/26 03:43 PM
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If you spend time, effort and reflection and perhaps use a teacher or guide, they can be learned.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/26 03:39 PM
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Social skills can be learned. It is odd to think that they can't.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/26 03:25 PM
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OR you all just grabbed normal ideas, planted a flag and took them as your own. If people can learn red pill ideas without ever learning red pill ideas....than they were never yours to start with. It probably means that you all were late to the party and clueless. The blue pill is just a reaction to your toxic waste.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/26 02:29 PM
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Most people are writing, editing and filtering their anecdotes now are they.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/26 02:27 PM
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SO you are blaming women for everything and then wondering why men are single. lol
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/26 02:24 PM
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You, if you dated multiple times, and are now married, had to learn new skills and then apply them. Flirting, to social skills to conflict resolution. You made a lot of choices that made your chances of that all happening much more likley. Those women didn't just fall into your lap. Those relationships weren't maintained by accident. But since you are reduced to insults, I'm just going to report and move on. Other than screaming that men are poor victims, you don't seem to have much to say anywa…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/26 03:17 AM
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Men who do the work have better outcomes. Those who don't, dont.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/26 02:52 AM
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She laughs, you have a good time all night and you end up dating her for awhile. And you have a lot of fun before she moves to Europe. That's what happens. Seems like you only stare at walls so you always crash into them.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/26 02:51 AM
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He can show weakness. I just gave you an example of how he can.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/26 02:45 AM
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Yes, if you want to meet more successful at dating you have to work at it. I was successful in dating and oddly I also did the work. You, based on your answer, seem to have not done the work. And you seem to have lesser outcomes.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/26 02:41 AM
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The idea isn't that you have to be perfect all the time. That's impossible. The real idea is that you adapt to the situation. Or you laugh at yourself. It isnt about perfection, that's impossible, it is about adapting to a situation.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/26 02:32 AM
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What did those men do to improve their dating outcomes? Seems like you bought into the idea thaf men are nothing more than victims than people with agency that can make choices.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/26 02:06 AM
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No it isnt. You are just arguing by asserting. If red pill was the way why do I see so much anger and hostility and toxic and narrow minded black white thinking and gross generalizations and people who just have horribly wrong takes on women and dating in red pill spaces. If it worked, there wouldn't be all that rage. And please dont make excuses or downplay because all that stuff is there in spades. It also seems that red pillers tend to find out later in life how dating works and then plant a …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/26 02:03 AM
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Then explain how people have used those ideas to be successful in relationships? And why when I go out I see normal people dating normal people all the time when red pill tell me thaf women only date hot guys.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/26 01:40 AM
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The phrase is all women are like that. You can attempt to spin that, but you are saying that all women are like a certain way. They aren't individuals. They are a monolith. If you didn't mean all women you would have come up with a different phrase. Don't blame me. Blame the idiot moron red pillers who came up with and used rhe phrase all the fucking time. They thought all women acted rhe exact same. As evidences by their use of rhe phrase.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/26 01:14 AM
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BP. You sure about that. Where they the ones who claim all women are the same. Just asking for a friend. Who came up with phrases like awalt?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/26 11:06 PM
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That's the main difference I think. You all tend to think that all women act the same way. AWALT is a clear example of this. Thinking there is one set of things you can do that work all the time is another. You fail to be open to the idea that there are multiple paths. There isn't one magic solution, there are multiple different ideas for multiple different people. That's how things work. What works for one woman won't work for all. You all do black and white thinking because that's easy. All th…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/26 10:06 PM
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Men would fuck a tree stump if they could. That argument isn't saying all that much.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/26 08:59 PM
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So when I go out I see women dating normal men all the time. The most common couple is an average woman dating an average man. Those relationships are everywhere. I'm told that I live in a world were women only date super hot guys, but funny I've never seen that world.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/26 08:51 PM
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You know that this is just people online talking about things right? No one is ever threatened at any time.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/26 08:47 PM
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So when Alex Pretti was gunned down you think it was seen as normal? Are so deep into the male victimhood that you ignore reality?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/26 08:38 PM
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You can. Just know that you tube isn't reality. It is cultivated, written and edited.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/26 08:31 PM
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Most men here would love to meet a person, date them and then have sex. And when I'm saying that social skills allow you to do that you still somehow attempted to spin it into a negative. Which is an odd choice. You are an average guy and you are going to be upset with an average girl? And this is just the bullshit story you came up with. You aren't arguing reality. You are just creating a fiction story that somehow perfectly matches your notions and proclaiming that fiction as true.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/26 08:10 PM
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But you are. Fathers that are absent and leave get zero blame. The parent who stays gets all of it. you have gone out of your way to blame mothers, yet not a single critical word for fathers who abandon their sons or for any other reason. Women are to blame. Men get a full pass.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/26 07:27 PM
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So men are only powerful when they can find a submissive woman. That's just saying that men are insecure and weak. That screams insecurity and weakness.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/26 06:16 PM
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So you want to blame the responsible parent and coddle the deadbeat father who abandons their child.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/26 03:57 PM
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Yes, they date and get into relationships and have sex . If you see dating a person and getting into a relationship and having sex as bad thing that's on you.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/26 03:54 PM
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Yes, you are figuring it out. If you say that you are an anti social person so one of your boundaries is that you will never go out to social functions as they bother you your partner doesn't have to go along with that boundary. They can see that boundary as something that isn't compatible and break up with you. If they forced you to go out against your will, that would be a violation.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/26 03:42 PM
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Women don't do anything wrong when they break up with men over their boundaries.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/26 03:40 PM
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No one has to respect your boundary. They are under zero obligation to do so.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/26 04:34 AM
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Since I'm married I hope not. That would get me into some trouble with the wife. You are very confidently wrong here.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/26 04:33 AM
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But what does the history of those men have to do with modern men who didn't do any of that. Why are you trying to reap the reward of work you didn't do.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/26 01:56 AM
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What does men doing more dangerous jobs have to do with men also being more violent. Those seem like unrelated ideas.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/26 01:55 AM
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whatever man. You know I can downvote too right?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/26 01:47 AM
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People are being a lot of risk adverse. So they will go to the few tropes they feel comfortable and avoid everything else. That's why more thinking is black and white. And there are more broad generalizations. A bunch of men getting the same hair cut and going to same clubs wonder why they compete after the same women.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/26 01:27 AM
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Then you should focus on yourself and not place your self worth on how much women you get.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/26 01:21 AM
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Then why do you still use aps if they aren't working.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/26 01:19 AM
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It isn't the ability to change. It is are those changes real or an act that will fall flat. You can pretend and that myth can last for a few dates, but people will see who you are once the shimmer is gone. If your personality is just a hair cut, that everyone else has, and a gym membership that's an act that going to run out of air fast.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/26 01:18 AM
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My wife books her hair appts 4 months in advance. Large percentages of men are still over weight. And lots of men still struggle building and maintaining social networks. And you are stating that since men are getting hair cuts they have arrived. That's a pretty low standard.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/26 01:09 AM
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You are the one blaming mothers for everything. That sure as hell didn't come from me. That was your idea. Don't try to pin your words on me.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/26 12:56 AM
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So fathers made mistakes and dropped the ball and you want to blame women? I guess you are deep into male victimhood. I get it. Women must be blamed for everything.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/26 11:55 PM
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I don't know either. I don't' understand why men don't think that social skill matter when it comes to meeting people, getting them to like you, letting them enjoy their time with you and dating and sex. How do you think guys have been getting laid for all of time. Black and white thinking allows you to make generalizations that blame others for all your problems.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/26 07:55 PM
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Last time I checked it took man and a women to have a child. Yet, you want to blame the parent who stays while ignoring the one that leaves.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/26 07:52 PM
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Yes, personality does. Men just like to pretend or downplay it so they can blame something else for their failures.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/26 07:23 PM
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Why are you doing all you can to avoid the idea that social skills and personality matter. That idea seems to scare you.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/26 07:21 PM
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That social skills matter.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/26 07:20 PM
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So no. You aren't willing to get over it and accept reality.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/26 07:19 PM
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So you want to hold the mother accountable, yet you have zero blame for men?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/26 07:19 PM
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Speak for yourself here. Average looking dudes with strong social skills do great.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/26 07:17 PM
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They certainly do if that man has social skills and knows how to talk to people. If that man is shy and boring he is going to havea hard time.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/26 06:40 PM
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Do fathers exist in your world? You make it seem like men are nothing more then helpless victims at the mercy of others.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/26 06:38 PM
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People wirh good social skils can interact with women in a way they want to be interacted with. And they can read the room so they dont waste time with women who dont want to talk to them
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/26 06:37 PM
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Are you sure about that? The last who tries the douche bag route not only got kicked out of multiple organizations he wanted to be apart of he was banned from multiple bars after he disrespected a bar owners waitress. He pulled already red pill shit and crashed and 🔥ed.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/26 06:32 PM
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Are you going to accept the reality that personality and social skills, or the lack of them, have a huge effect on your ability to date?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/26 06:27 PM
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And social skills can be a good reason for a girl to be attracted to you. Just like the lack of social skills can be a reason they do want to talk with you
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/26 06:21 PM
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What? There are men killing it based on their personality snd social skills. Women like to be around them. They make things fun. They are open to trying new things and having adventures. Those guys can go to a party and find the right people to talk to and interact with them they way they want to be talked to. With their confidence and social skills they srr very effective. Strip those attributes away from them and they crash and burn.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/26 06:14 PM
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IF you throw a temper tantrum because someone reacts to your boundary, as they are fully in the right to, that's on you. That doesn't make your temper tantrum correct.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/26 02:45 PM
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A boundary only controls what you agree to do, not what the other person thinks or says about it. Okay, so then why are you then judging women for how they react to a boundary. They get to do that. Per you. You seem to want to state they can do something and then get upset when they do that thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/26 02:34 PM
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Women get to react to boundaries in any way that serves their wants. Just because you have a boundary doesn't let you judge how people react to it.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/26 02:30 PM
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Women know how to counter punch and find strength from weakness much better than men do. They also invest more time on social networks than men do. And they tend to network their problems while men often socially isolate. Women have multiple social tools they can use. Men tend to have much fewer social tools.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/26 06:55 AM
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Have you ever been to a strip club. Lots of men are perfectly willing to give money to a girl to get sex. You can't blame women for giving men what they want.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/26 06:52 AM
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For a side you claim is winning they certainly seem angry, bitter and resentful. And they have lost the social skills that the last generation of men had.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/26 06:51 AM
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You wanted to be in a place where you got to tell people what to do. But you didn't want to get your hands dirty. Tell me any organization where you can tell others what to do when you aren't wiling to invest any time or effort into doing any of the work?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/26 06:46 AM
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It is fine to say no, buy if you never invest into the well you can't be shocked when she doesn't. Or If you don't invest you can't make a withdrawal by asking her for something.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/26 06:43 AM
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You get to set a boundary. You don't get to control how others react to that boundary. Someone does have the right to tell you go fuck and pound sand. Your boundary controls what you do. It doesn't control what another does.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/26 06:42 AM
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I find your moving example odd as I am currently in the process of moving. You wanted a leadership position without doing the work to gain that position. You want to move pieces around the board without willing to be a piece on that board. That's kind of arrogant. If you did that as part of any organization I was part of I would tell you also pound sand. Your placed your rest as more important that her needs. And then got upset when she reacted to that choice. You can make a choice. Others get t…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/26 06:23 AM
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IF you want to dip into a well you better invest in that well. If you want to ask your partner to value you over her needs you need to value her over yours. You get what you give. If you are unwilling to give and invest, you will get nothing.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/26 06:18 AM
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Where does this exist. I see men hostile to any sense that they are responsible for their outcomes. And I see men flocking to all those who proclaim that someone else can be blamed for their problems. I see men who spend zero time and effort on social skills who blame women for why they are single. I see young men who face a bit of adversity and instead of asking for help, give up. I see men advocate that changes should happen who do nothing to actually work towards any of those changes almost l…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/26 06:15 AM
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Are you ever going to ask your partner for something that isn't at the top of her list that now she has to make the top of her list. That's the real question. Because in almost any relationship, that answer will be yes. So what's your answer to that question. Are you ever going to dip into that well. I could give you an example from my life of that, but I'm going to going to assume you understand what I'm asking. But I can provide an example if you need one.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/26 06:06 AM
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People are allowed to react to your boundary.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/26 06:03 AM
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It's almost like you can't say no without someone's wrath You are so close to understanding here. You can say no. They get to react to you saying no. And sometimes the end result of you saying no is that they don't see you a person they share values with.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/26 06:02 AM
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And then he attacked her and called her names when she decided that his situation wasn't something she wanted to be apart of. He wants to set a boundary and then judge women who say that because of that boundary we aren't compatible. Men and women can set boundaries and men and women get to answer if those boundaries are something that they are willing to put up with.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/26 05:58 AM
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So do you really think that if you simply state that you never want to see her in laws, which is her mother and father, people very important to her, that she is in the wrong if see you negatively for not wanting to be part of that part of her life? Because lots of couples would talk about your hesitancy. And examine it. And if your answer is I never want to be at all inconvenienced by my partner in any way than that's not going to be a healthy and dependable relationship. Because are you going …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/26 05:55 AM
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What part of this do you not get. You get to set a boundary. Great. Someone else gets to decide if that boundary is something they are willing to put up with. If the answer is yes, they stay. If the answer is no, they leave.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/26 05:50 AM
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Yes. But then people get to make the choice to stay with you based on your boundary. Your boundary isnt a tool to control another
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/26 02:37 AM
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Thats fine. It isbjust odd to claim that someone who wants to advance in their career and who knows what they want as a male trait.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/26 02:29 AM
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So you are still trying to use your boundary to control and judge the behavior of others. That's not how boundaries work. You can tell the girl that you won't help her move. She can tell you that she finds that unreasonable and break up with you. If she still tried to get you to help her move after you told her, she would be in the wrong. She isnt in the wrong by breaking up wirh you.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/26 01:14 AM
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No one has to be accepting of you boundary. Thats not how boundaries work. Your comment isn't finding any level of hypocrisy. It is broadcasting that you dont know what you are talking about.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/26 01:11 AM
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Your boundary doesnt let you control another person. It is something you wont do and that's it Others get to react to that boundary.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/26 01:09 AM
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Setting a boundary doesnt mean that other people cant react to that boundary. When you say you wouldn't help her move she still gets to be pissed at you. By getting upset with you she didn't violate your boundary. A boundary is a thing you won't do. It controls your behavior. Not anyone else's.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/26 11:49 PM
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Then those men are going to have a hard time dating because of their perferences.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/26 09:29 PM
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Yep and you get to meet a bunch of new people.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/26 09:14 PM
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Money isnt the determination of a man child. How they act and their level of maturity is.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/26 08:27 PM
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That's kind of what you are saying. Being assertive and aggressive is only the domain of men. Women have to more passive and receptive in order to be attractive. And if they cross a line by being ambitious, they are no longer attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/26 03:59 PM
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So a women acting like a man is one who has a job or is career focused and knows what she wants and doesn't put up with less? That's the domain of only men?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/26 03:48 PM
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So you think that a women needs to be put in her place, but you don't hate them? Seems like you want to control them. Seems like independent women bother you to the point you want to control them and put them in their place. Seems like you are intimidated by their independence as you feel a need to control them.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/26 03:45 PM
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I've seen complete schisms and people forbidding others to dance with his girl and then getting upset when they pick his girl to dance in a group dance. It just can cause a lot of unneeded drama. I've seen plays almost fail apart when two people had a relationship and it failed with a month left to go till production. Or rumors of a director giving people parts because he wanted to or was dating them. Then again, I found my wife from a writer group and girlfriends from trivia teams. What I found…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/26 03:29 PM
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I've seen drama from dating tear swing dancing communities apart. The normal dynamic of men dancing with different women in a night can tur to jealously when a guy dances with someone's girl. Or when a guy thinks that a another guy is moving in on his girl. I've seen this break down swing groups and shatter scenes. I can understand why some girls wouldn't want to be part of that. Often the attention gets taken away from the dancing and can become something else. And not all girls in swing scenes…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/26 03:14 PM
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You could make a lot of money as a gay prostitute. Do you have an advantage because you can do that?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/26 06:47 AM
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What? You can talk to women they are people. You can talk to them like they are people
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/26 03:33 AM
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They don't want men to be helped. They get more use out of men if men think they are nothing but victims. The GOP has done nothing to help men. They have made farming harder and driving a truck harder and so forth and so forth.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/26 07:01 AM
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All citizens are having access to health care, work place protections and the right to live in a world that has less wealth inequality. Men aren't being excluded from those ideas.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/26 04:15 PM
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What are you talking about? That person didn't attack him for being short, fat or bald.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/26 03:56 PM
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That all citizens should have access to those ideas. Men and women. Men on this sub say that men are discriminated against because they die more on the job and then attack the party that is trying to give more work place protections And support the party trying to strip them.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/26 03:54 PM
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I see men made fun more for their behavior than their shortness. If they are short guy, not many people care. If they are a short guy who rages against women and blames them for all their problems, that man will get laughed at. See the difference? If you think that the party you hate is just made of cucks and liars for instance people are going to mock you for your incorrect take.Funny how they are ineffective cucks and liars who can't do anything that can complete control your life. That doesn'…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/26 03:42 PM
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I mean you could understand why a woman wouldn't want a stranger walking behind her. At night. That doesn't make women afraid of men in other contexts. I'm currently directing a play that is half women. Do you think those women are scared of me. If you let the comments of a few randos on line bother you that's on you.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/26 03:35 PM
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It usually is a way for people to talk and get to know each other in a low key interaction that can either end after a drink or turn into dinner or marriage. I mean asking a girl out for a drink has been the go to for decades.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/26 08:30 PM
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So then once again, Leo, is not doing what most men aren't doing. Correct?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/26 05:24 PM
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You do have to invest your time and interest through. If you are shallow with those ideas women are going to have a hard time continuing to date you.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/26 03:21 PM
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If men are so weak that they will be influenced by randoms on online they are going to have a hard time. If they want to turn the words of randoms as to why they can now play the victim card they will have a hard time.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/26 03:14 PM
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I really don't think it is all that hard for men to be seen as good. Lots of men just want to play the victim and the woe is me card
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/26 04:51 AM
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Yes, but we are also disagreeing on fundamental ideas like do people have rights. Should armed masked men be able to detain US citizens without cause. Should minorities be harmed and attacked. Should we have fair and free elections. So we often don't have the same destination. We have a group who wants to harm others and then we have a group that doesn't want to harm others.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/26 12:10 AM
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So then he isn't doing what is natural for most men.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/26 11:20 PM
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Most men are not constantly dating women the same age. For decades. The man is looking for young women. Admit that. Why can't you?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/26 11:07 PM
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dang it
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/26 11:06 PM
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Liberal women tend to not want anything to do with Conservative men. There is nothing to bend. Liberal women aren't going to date repulsive men. Any man who thinks they should cook or clean while the man doesn't is going to be seen as a repulsive pathetic man child.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/26 10:47 PM
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What?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/26 10:41 PM
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Liberal women tend to find Conservative men and their political ideas repulsive. Why would women want to date men they find repulsive?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/26 10:27 PM
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I'm pretty sure the times I had sex were based, partially by my own actions and choices. I wasn't a helpless victim at the mercy of others. And yes, you have to convince someone to have sex with you. You seem to be lamenting that fact.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/26 05:28 PM
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Yes, sex is something people get a say on. If your lament is that others get to decide if they want to sleep with you, I can't give you much sympathy.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/26 05:01 PM
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Men spend less time on generating or maintaining social networks than women do. They tend to spend more time online, by themselves. And they tend to have less friends than women do.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/26 04:58 PM
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Men can ask women out. They do it all the time. They can be an active presence in their own sex life. Men do have agency. They aren't helpless victims at the mercy of others.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/26 04:52 PM
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Women get on jury duty rolls as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/26 04:42 PM
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Because often the person they kill is the one harming them.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/26 05:01 AM
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based on juice or a sellable con?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/26 04:34 AM
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Men have committed 89 to 90 percent of homicides. 9 out of ten murders are done by men.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/26 03:36 AM
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Men don't work as hard in educational environments. They don't ask for help. They don't seek out and work with mentors. And they don't compensate for their weaknesses. Things get hard and they quit. Men hold the vast majority of leadership jobs. Men who fight for their kids, get custody. Those who don't...don't. Men don't face much discrimination. They just haven't shown recent resilience.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/26 03:34 AM
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This is a take. And incorrect one. But it is a take.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/26 03:31 AM
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You mean men murdering other men?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/26 03:30 AM
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When I go out I see normal women with normal dudes all the time. It isnt like women, in the real world, are only dating super models. So I find images like that to be more a description of bias than rhe real world.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/26 10:06 PM
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Men have always had to work for relationships. You are describing what men have had to do for most of time. Lots of men want to complain more than they want to gain the needed skils. How many hours and effort have men spend complaining about women online. Those hundreds of thousands of hours were are wasted.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/26 09:57 PM
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But a lot of your ideas are wrong. You entire section on women and pain is blatantly wrong. Is there a reason you chose to lead with factually wrong ideas?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/26 08:51 PM
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And men commit the vast majority of all violent crimes in America.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/26 08:46 PM
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Abortion isnt violent crime. Thus nothing you said has any level of merit.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/26 08:45 PM
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Yes but how many women are responsible for everything posts do you vs. Men taking responsibility for their own actions. So the ask isnt just empathy. It is wanting empathy and then ability to blame women without pushback.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/26 08:41 PM
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I have seen what she is saying. Men claim to ask for empathy but they are looking fo be agreed on everything with zero level of challenge. Because men tend to not just say that men have problems in dating. They make the claim that men have problems on dating and women are responsible for those problems. And when they get pushback, they get upset and angry and throw insults.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/26 08:01 PM
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I dont see men bullied. I do see them called out on their bullshit they want to peddle. I do see men with agency and responsibility call out women for all their problems. Which is loser shit. I see men insult women all the time and then they are shocked that women dont care about thwir issues. If only those two ideas were connected. The women who post here aren't bad women. They just say ideas that threaten you. And if you want to make the choice to bully women, be my guest. Just be responsible …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/26 07:54 PM
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Can you please state how you or any other male in your generation has been directly harmed by the draft. Please be very specific.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/26 07:41 PM
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Then they should stop voting for political parties which strip workplace protections.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/26 06:21 PM
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Pregnancy is often a disadvantage. A woman of xhild bearing ags can be passed over for advancement and promotions regardless of her desire to have children. Pregnancy often comes with major health complications. My sister was on months of best rest and she's not alone. My friend had a blood pressure problem that was quite concerning. And we have the least ammount of maternal, and paternal leave, for any western nation. So yes Pregnancy is a big deal.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/26 06:15 PM
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So, we have men who blame women for all their problems. And if you act like a loser you are going to be laughed at. Best way to have stop that...stop acting like a loser. If we are looking at terrible people we can extend a wider net.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/26 04:41 PM
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That's up to them and their desire. You asked me a very general question and seem to want specific answers. A random women, she doesn't owe you anything. You think you are owed something. Why?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/26 04:55 AM
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Women don't have have a responsibility to help men with their personal dating issues. Nor do they have to help men who insult them. You insult a women. She gets to tell you to pound sand. a man has personal issues that makes it hard for them to date. Women don't need to rush to that man's aid to fix his problems for him. That's their work to do. What part of that do you not understand?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/26 04:51 AM
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No they aren't. You just think that they are. And once you insult a person by calling them a "fundamentally bad person" they are no longer in any position to help you as most people don't help strangers who insult them. They just tell you to pound sand or whatever else they want to tell you and then they forget you. But the last thing that they would do is help you or show you empathy. Those who fling insults haven't earned it.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/26 04:40 AM
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Women can't help men who don't have a good self esteem or major problems with insecurity or self worth. Or men who have poor dating skills. Or men that aren't social. Or men that haven't spent enough time developing their social networks. That's not their responsibility. That's something men need to work on. And if you get angry and argue with women on this you are giving them more valid reasons not to be worried about your problems in the slightest. You are angry. Thus women aren't obligated to…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/26 04:36 AM
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She's not lying. You just didn't like what she said.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/26 04:29 AM
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So you want to call women bad people, no sorry, fundamentally bad people, and then wonder why they aren't showing men empathy? Do you really need someone to explain that to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/26 04:27 AM
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aren't you always told that you have no problems, by men.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/26 04:23 AM
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SO you want to blame women for male problems and then you also want to wonder why those same women aren't changing their habits to help you? Hmm, if only those two ideas weren't connected. Seems like the correct responses to this would be to tell you pound sand.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/26 04:22 AM
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Yes, it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/26 04:09 AM
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You can make a choice. No one else has to respect you. Bang hookers all you want. Just dont demand respect.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/26 11:13 PM
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Which means that being hot is one option. So is being funny or social or any of the other ideas that cause women to be attracted to. So there are multiple paths to attraction. Which sure as heck isnt a black pill idea. But since you see things through a black pill mindset you ignored all of those other options to only focus on what you think is important while ignoring everything that you think isn't.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/26 11:11 PM
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To the man with a hammer everyone is a nail. He isnt expressing black pill ideas. You are just filtering what he says through a black pill lens
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/26 10:14 PM
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That wasnt my question. Have you ever heard any man say that they were the problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/26 08:20 PM
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Back in the day where those who claimed they were ugly posted pics of themselves they did seem like regular dudes. They tended just be average looking dudes, for the most part, with major self esteem issues with poor social skills that held them back far more than their looks.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/26 08:11 PM
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Often they don't. That is just your only perspective so that's all you see The guy with a hammer thinks hat everything is a nail.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/26 08:00 PM
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Have you ever heard any man say that they were the problem?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/26 07:51 PM
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As long as you are willing to deal with the consequences of your actions, yes you are correct. You can cheat on your wife, she can record your activities and then take you to the cleaners during divorce court. You can proclaim that you are entitled to sex and another woman can see a person who thinks like you as a sad loser and want nothing to do with that person.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/26 03:42 PM
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Speak for yourself. My wife is nothing like you describe.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/26 08:37 PM
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I've been to incel subs. I saw the messages they sent to each other. They treated each other Nd themselves as being worthless. So I dont think I am.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/26 08:32 PM
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Just because a couple ends a marriage in divorce doesn't men that the idea of marriage is flawed
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/26 08:28 PM
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And for the right to be legally married.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/26 08:20 PM
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You aren't trustworthy enough to have any amount of leverage.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/26 08:07 PM
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Why are you writing this rant instead of actually doing what you claim you should be doing. And if you are just trying to harm women with your votes do you want more men to die as lonely angry virgins whose only pace to feel important is online echo chambers. Because that seems to be what you want to do
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/26 08:03 PM
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Women weren't labeling incels a trashcan in human form. Inceps were doing that all by themselves. When I want advice from you I will ask. Until then, dont offer it Thats clear right?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/26 07:54 PM
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If someone has never seen it that would seem to be a counter to your claim that it happens all the time. I've also seen a women never attack a person for being a virgin. I've seen men do that multiple times. Are you open to the idea men do that, but because you don't seem that open.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/26 06:59 PM
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So then the idea isn't that fact if someone is a virgin. It is how they act and their choices.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/26 06:56 PM
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The people who have treated incels the worst have always been incels.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/26 06:49 PM
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And then if they did that thing, would you get upset, or angry or passive agressive?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/26 05:02 PM
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So you have never said, because I feel insecure, I don't want you to do X?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/26 01:38 AM
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A beer can always lead to dinner. A dinner date can lead to 60 minutes of dinner with a person you can't stand.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/26 10:12 PM
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You have the right to be insecure, but you dont have the right to dictate how someone reacts to it. Your insecurity isnt an excuse to control others.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/26 10:05 PM
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Mainly I advocate for men to take responsibly and have agency and am against poorly thought out arguments. If you think that places me against men, I can't really respond to that. That's your idea, not mine. You are on a debate sub. Do you just want to be in an echo chamber where everyone agrees with you or are you open to listening to new ideas and are you also open to the idea that you might be wrong. Multiple people have told that your take is wrong and the best defense you can muster is V. s…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/26 05:54 PM
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No, she isn't. You just want her to be. Your take on why women don't like porn is just wrong. As you have been told by multiple people up and down this thread.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/26 05:50 PM
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And that has nothing to do with your incorrect take on porn.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/26 05:48 PM
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No, you dismissed what she said out of hand. None of those issues are virtue signaling. You have have been told multiple times that you are wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/26 05:41 PM
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But they aren't being hypocritical. Your take is just wrong. You dismiss out of hands all the examples of how you are wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/26 05:39 PM
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If you are just going to ignore well thought out counter arguments why are you here?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/26 05:36 PM
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Why talk to someone and communicate your basic needs and values when you can go online and make attacks against all women based on your shortcomings.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/26 05:24 PM
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When men give up their agency or stop making choices they can't be upset that they are locked into a path. That's what they chose.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/26 05:22 PM
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I didn't make a pro life argument, so I'm going to let you be as wrong as you wish.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/26 05:15 PM
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Not exactly. I once cast a guy who ended up being a drunk who I had to cut from the show. Was it my fault that he didn't show up drunk to the audition and had good references? Did I fail to mind read that he would start showing up drunk two weeks into rehearsals? I did fail to read the future. Was that my fault?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/26 10:00 PM
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The last draft was passed with the male politicians acting as the strong, strong majority. Blaming women seems like a heck of a stretch.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/26 04:34 AM
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Justice demands that the man pay child support before that man asks for my taxes to go up by a cent. If a man cant handle that..boo hoo. I couldnt care less about his tears.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/26 04:26 AM
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Yes. And if she aborts, there is no child. In your case there is a child with a claim thaf is superior.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/26 04:22 AM
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An AI girlfriend isnt kissing you. There is zero actual intimacy or vulnerability. They can't be your plus one at parties. You aren't special to an AI. You are nothing to an AI. You can go that path if you want but it doesnt lead to much.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/26 04:18 AM
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Men walk put on their children more than women do. This that percentage is based on choices made by men.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/26 01:45 AM
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Are you ignoring the claims of the baby here. Because that child dies have claims to resources and you really haven't given a solid reason for why those claims should be nullified.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/26 01:39 AM
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The child's claim to resources from both parents is stronger than a man's claim to be able to fuck anything that moves with zero responsibility
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/26 01:35 AM
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The child's claim to resources are stronger than the man's claim to responsibility free sex. No matter what argument you make, the child's claim to resources are superior. My taxes aren't going to go up so can have responsibility free sex as often as they want.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/26 01:15 AM
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We should have a poll if people are here to date or just to argue.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/26 08:41 AM
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And a lot also defines what you call red pill ideas. And blue pill didn't really exist except after went to your spaces and saw some shit. It was a reaction. We were just successful as it. We didn't have to learn how to be confident beause we were. Our confidence isn't performative. You all welcomed black pillers into your spaces and gave them a home. We sure as heck didn't. Hell, how many angry at women red pillers post here.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/26 02:47 AM
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If someone came in all with bluster and was screaming faggot any time they went past a gay bar they wouldn't last fin in my social circle. Nor would they been seen as a catch by the single women in mt social circle.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/26 02:31 PM
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But what about all the Bp people who had relationships that weren't toxic. Which is a massive amount.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/26 01:23 AM
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And in my circle if a dude acted that way he would be blacklisted. The people who are dating and in relationships are the complete opposite.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/26 01:21 AM
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IF you change words to mean anything you want to then they don't mean anything and you all sound like idiots. If a normal looking dude dates and then marries a normal looking woman, which happens all the time, you would claim that still hypergamy since she is with the best man should could be. Which would stupid as hell to say.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/26 11:17 PM
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You do need confidence to date. Confidence lets you talk to people and flirt. Confidence leads to asking the girl out which leads to dating. If you aren't confident, you are going to have a really hard time. But then you have to follow through. Being confident gets on the doorstep.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/26 11:04 PM
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If he didn't have rich parents you wouldn't know his name.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/26 11:02 PM
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If he thinks like you he will. I know lots of shorter who kill it with women because they didn't let that area define them. Those who place wall in front of themselves always crash into them or let those limitations define them. Those who don't talk to the girl and show her a good time.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/26 11:00 PM
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I really don't think men have learned, adapted and applied those skills all that well. Your path to success isn't being followed because this crop of men gets to blame women for all their problems and then doesn't do anything else. Lots of men retreated to online spaces and that their social interaction. They haven't adapted to changes. They just wish it was like it was before. Lots of men dream of getting a date with a girl, but would have zero social to navigate that space if they did. They wa…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/26 10:58 PM
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or ignoring. Men often simply ignore all men who don't match what they think is needed to get a girl.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/26 10:47 PM
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Then why do so many men listen to other man who are virgins or who have had limited dating experience. Those men loudly proclaim what dating is and not only are they supported they are upvoted and have people agree with them. It is the blind leading the blind.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/26 10:44 PM
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Lots of men are losers without social skills. But I didn't find it hard. Maybe that's a you thing. But losers who don't have the social skills nor the confidence are going to struggle.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/26 10:23 PM
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I didn't find it hard to sleep with multiple women. Maybe that's just a you thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/26 06:14 PM
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If he can't even understand what a clear cut double standard is than it will be very hard for me to do that. If he calls women sluts, while attacking their use of double standards, but can't see his use, than that's the point. Anyone who attacks someone for double standards and then uses them, blatantly, is going to miss so much that there isn't much discussion to be had.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/26 04:28 PM
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Yes and your comment confirms the double standard that exists.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/26 04:14 PM
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I wasn't challenging. I was just asking a follow up question.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/26 04:13 PM
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Why? Question asked and answered.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/26 04:02 PM
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yes, attacking horrible arguments is our playbook.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/26 04:01 PM
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I didn't attack him. I attacked his poor argument. Claiming that when men have lots of sex they are gods, but when women have lots of sex they are sluts is a clear double standard. A textbook double standard. If you, or him, are unable to grasp that basic idea that's not my fault. If you can't handle someone's position being attack on a debate sub, set the hell out and find an echo chamber.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/26 04:00 PM
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No. It means the same action is seen two different ways. If having lots of sex is bad when women do it, but isn't bad when men do it that's a double standard. That's a textbook double standard that you feel comfortable in making. If you can't understand such a simple idea, there really isn't a reason to speak with you.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/26 03:56 PM
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I did an easy set up and you walked into it. You said that women couldn't handle criticism so I tested you and you got all butt hurt.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/26 03:53 PM
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Yes, women are successful at dating and know how to interact in social interactions and lots of men don't, and then blame women for all their problems instead of taking personal responsibility for their own flaws. But there is a major double standard if a man who has sex with lots of women is a god and a woman who does that same thing is a slut. That's the textbook def. of a double standard.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/26 06:35 AM
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That was a trap you fell into. I just I knew you would. You were played like a fiddle. I criticized men and you got all butt hurt and had to throw insults to feel better. I'm sure in the one moment you felt strong and powerful. "It is like you really struggle with criticism as a concept." You were so predictable.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/26 06:33 AM
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This is joke right?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/26 06:28 AM
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All the time. When is the last time you thought about thinking. Because if this is the best you got, you really need to put in the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/26 06:28 AM
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That's true. Nice self own.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/26 06:11 AM
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This is the dumbest thing I have ever seen someone post on this sub.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/26 04:30 AM
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So you are fully partaking in a double standard while trying call others on a double standard. And when called on your bullshit you change the subject?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/26 04:02 AM
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They were all about lying to get laid. They has full discussions on how to manipulate woman
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/26 03:55 AM
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So you called women who had sex sluts. Whats youe negative slur for men who have lots of sex. And can you link a time you used it in any post.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/26 03:46 AM
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Is asking someone for their perspective and experience personal? If someone talked about travel and I asked how much they traveled would that be personal?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/26 02:06 AM
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Those people would have been welcomed into your spaces. Because saw red pill bulkshit in 2016. It was full of angry dudes. Who made posts that were supported, up voted and even guided. Your movement is full of losers. You give them safe harbor to say their anti female shit. Quit yet bullshit It was full of angry dudes then. It is full of them now
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/26 01:52 AM
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But it does. Why would anyone give you advice as you aren't going to use it. I'm not going to tell someone who doesn't take risks any dating advice. I mean I could tell you the best advice in the world and you wouldn't follow through. Before you claim the the advice is the problem, why aren't you asking anyone out? That's the problem. The advice to help you isn't. You don't take risks.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/26 12:33 AM
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How many girls have you asked out in the last 6 months?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/26 12:26 AM
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So then if you have no comment on my claims then is there a reason to speak with you? So thank for saying that all my claims are true. I really appreciate that. If you couldn't deflect, you would have nothing. Thanks for confirming all I knew.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/26 10:52 PM
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This is exactly the loser statement I expect from red pill people. If you all couldn't scream about women, you would have nothing to day. You can't defend, so you can only deflect. Who cares about what women do, I'm talking about the red pill. If you want to talk about the red pill, run and hide. Did women make you post that banner. Did women make hundreds of thousands of anti female posts and comments. Quit deflecting. If you can't address what I said about the red pill, don't comment. But plea…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/26 10:18 PM
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Because it isnt hard to see people dating and being social if you are social yourself. And when you know those people. And when they tell you they are dating. Why does that idea threaten you so much?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/26 07:09 PM
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Yes, I do. All the time. Why does that idea threaten you so much?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/26 07:04 PM
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And those are examples of pretty shit parenting. No lessons were taught other than my father is a vindictive asshole and I should get away from him as soon as possible.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/26 07:02 PM
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It is a lot easier to say something knowing that you will never have to enforce it. Take that dad whose daughter was dating a 20 year old. Where was he? How did he not know that his daughter is dating a 20 year old. Did he take the time to invest in his daughter so he could understand who she was dating. Seems not. Making a rule takes zero work. Enforcing it takes lots of work. Why are you supporting fathers here when they aren't doing much of the hard lifting?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/26 06:57 PM
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Well since lots of fathers weren't around or were very distant or worked longer hours, dads tended to send edicts and then mother's had to do the work to enforce them. It is a lot easier to say something then to have to be the one to enforce it.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/26 06:30 PM
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Funny how when I asked this to women who lived around bears, they also picked bear. The bears were mostly predictable. The men wanted to grab their assess as the bars closed, or didn't take no for an answer or preyed to drug their drinks. Life in Alaska for women isnt always the best
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/26 06:13 PM
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Is this a joke? Have you ever dated before? Have you ever known a women on a fundamental and intimate level? This seems like you had ai write you a fan fiction of an idea you have very limited knowledge of
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/26 06:08 PM
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When you go out you see average people dating average people. It isnt like you runway models. Most guys who called themselves ugly were average looking people.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/26 06:03 PM
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It is. Most red pill men are angry losers whose confidence is an act to cover their intense low self esteem.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/26 06:01 PM
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You know that trust me bro isnt a source right?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/26 05:57 PM
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Yet they are angry and pathetic losers. So it seems like it doesnt work.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/26 05:56 PM
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Why is the op thinking he is going to get personal advice from strangers online Thats a really poor line of thinking.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/26 05:55 PM
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Why the hell are you asking strangers for advice in the first place. Don't you have real world friends you can talk to?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/26 05:53 PM
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No it isnt. That advice isnt given by anyone. Op, do you date alot, how many relationships have you been in and how often do you ask women out? The advice isnt to become her friend. It is to get to know her better.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/26 05:47 PM
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This is just another women are stupid rants. Men say stupid and nonsensical things here all the time. Some of the most devoid of thought ideas I've heard I've seen from men on this sub. A bunch of pathetic losers blaming women for all their problems like the losers they are.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/26 05:42 PM
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How many relationships have you been in? How often do you ask women out on dates
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/26 05:41 PM
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Such a cowardly response. This is a joke right?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/26 04:43 AM
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Yes you need to hire a lawyer for legal disputes.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/26 04:35 AM
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I love you discovering how legal arguments work. You lean legal disputes take money...no. what other basic ideas are you going to discover?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/26 04:29 AM
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Once you look up all your claims they crumple like wet paper. Do you think we cant look up all your bullshit. We can
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/26 04:26 AM
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This is a joke right? This is either a joke or the worst argument I have heard.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/26 04:24 AM
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But they aren't being self centered. You are just proclaiming that they are. Which means that you could be wrong and your entire world view is just biased generalizations that don't apply. How many relationships have you been a part of?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/26 03:48 PM
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So you want to attack women for the actions of men. That's seems stupid. If men are going to act a certain way, women are going to respond. Seems like all your anger should be directed at men.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/26 03:37 PM
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No, who they need protection from is very much relevant. You can't just gloss over that bit. You can't call others for glossing over things while you are glossing over major things.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/26 03:19 PM
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Yes, but those who take the time to meet people are going to have better options than those who don't.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/26 05:48 AM
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And? I mean if that is something you want to do, you can do it. I didn't date conservatives because I knew that our worldviews wouldn't match. That also limited me, but it made it so that the people I did date matched my values. Which was a fair compromise.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/26 05:47 AM
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Then they should work on those issues. Or you know, they can chose not to, make a bunch of anti female statements online and blame women for their problems, and live sad angry lonely lives. Their move. But we are responsible for our own choices.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/26 05:45 AM
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I talk to people. I didn't say I was hitting on them. Thats how you meet people and then some of those people you date. And who cares. Some people will reject you. Some you will offend. That doesnt mean you cant talk to people.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/26 12:35 AM
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If I did that my wife would give me hell. But I do talk to people. And I did when I was single. Then again if you talk to enough people you arr goijg annoy some of them thats a given. Confidence and social skills do get you far. Would you talk to anyone?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/26 12:29 AM
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I couldnt agree with you more. The same people not willing to do the work are saying they didn't get a skill. If only those two ideas were connected.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/26 12:25 AM
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Yes, you talk to people. And then get to know them. And they get to get to know you. Like every other genration of men had to do. You know you can talk to people without being called a creep right?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/26 12:23 AM
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And those who dont are going to have better outcomes. You can pick your path. They can pick theirs. Just be happy with your path
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/26 12:21 AM
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Or you just have decent social skills and you know how to flirt you do pretty good too. Funny how that works
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/26 12:19 AM
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Or you just stop make excuses and develop them.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/26 12:18 AM
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If you dont want to pay, you can a girl upfront that you dont want to pay. You can date women that are okay with that.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/26 12:17 AM
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Did he say I would be talking to idiots?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/26 12:13 AM
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Yes, but meeting people does increase your chances. As does practicing social skills. What's your alternative?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/26 12:08 AM
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More or less since I found those events on public forums that everyone could access. It isnt like I did anything special.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/26 11:41 PM
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I am married, but if I was single and wanted to meet people, I would have over 40 different events to do that at in the next two weeks.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/26 11:36 PM
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Trivia nights, writing groups, meet ups, volunteer events. Comm. Theature are all great ways to meet people and have been used by myself or my friend groups. But make sure that you are going to something to do that something. If you go to a writing group and you actually have no interest in writing, people will see through you.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/26 11:01 PM
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If a person can't handle rejection, than they shouldn't date. Rejection is a natural and normal part of dating. If you can't love yourself, than you aren't going to have much to offer someone. It is a path to very little to no success when it comes to dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/26 09:54 PM
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or biased bullshit to blame women rather than learning and showing personal confidence. Easier to blame a bitch as to why you are single rather than yourself. Because if you ask why this one woman is doing something and then take that answer and apply it all women you are going to look foolish a lot of the time. If you confidently spread those ideas, you are going to very foolish.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/26 09:51 PM
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If you want to stop it being called that stop attracting so many, losers, loner and wannabes. Get rid of all the angry men who only want to bitch and complain about women. Perhaps, get rid of ideas like "How to control your bitch" and kick out anyone who justifies that idea. Because asking for a rebrand without doing any work is useless. Don't attack the flashlight for what it shines on.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/26 09:50 PM
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That "dead" mindset you claim exists is still used today, successfully, by men to find women and then date them.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/26 09:48 PM
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Red pillers where angry men who made anti female posts and content on the regular that was examined and supported by the movement then. And they do that now. You can't ask for a rebrand when not much has changed.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/26 09:46 PM
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So you do what men have always had to do. Practice the skill and get better at it. If you don't practice something you aren't going to get better at it. You do have to do the work.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/26 09:43 PM
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So, we just forget the history of the movement, pretend all the toxic bullshit didn't and still does exist, and then let you do your magic rebrand without doing any of the work to actually purge those ideas from your frame of thinking?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/26 09:42 PM
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Coward, if you want to talk behind someone's back at least have the courage to link them in.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/26 09:39 PM
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You face a little bit of resistance and you want to give up. If you want to give up, that's fine. Give up.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/26 09:38 PM
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Yes, I know. Using your exact words against you is boring. You are really good at self owns.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/26 09:37 PM
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This is most delusional thing I've never heard. Sure, you don't hate women. You just think they all act the same and you have a "manage your bitch" sidebar.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/26 09:35 PM
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Are his videos monetized. If so, she is getting paid one way or another. You understand that is scripted right? And then rehearsed. And then shot in a long process?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/26 04:12 AM
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I am familiar with that type of work, so yes if it is scripted someone is getting paid one way or another.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/26 04:03 AM
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It was written and scripted. She was paid.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/26 03:52 AM
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That bit was written and scripted and then performed. She was paid.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/26 03:44 AM
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You seem just to want to whine and moan.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/26 12:47 AM
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You are acting like a man who faces a little bit of resistance and shuts down. If getting disparaged causes you to quit, you prove my point. You seem to be showing me how much you quit under small levels of resistance. Go ahead and prove me wrong by doing exactly what I said you would do.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/26 12:46 AM
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Yet, you are bitching and complaining about women. Thus, per you, you are weak and unattractive. I've never seen such a successful self own. Thank you for that.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/26 11:35 PM
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Men make the choice to do those things. Women aren't then obligated to sleep with them. IF you don't want to pay for things, don't
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/26 11:32 PM
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Is this a joke?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/26 09:38 PM
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What point? When someone gives you a small level of resistance you give up? That point?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/26 09:37 PM
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You were asked a simple question. You can answer it right? Because it seems like you can't.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/26 09:34 PM
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