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One example of a social cue is say if someone is talking in an unusually high voice - it might mean that they're scared or nervous. So if you can read social cues, you can tell that that person is scared or nervous without them having to actually tell you that.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/21 05:39 PM
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Also a woman not wanting to talk to you isn't a "social cue". Its very obvious to anyone who sees it when a woman frowns or looks away that she is disinterested. A social cue would be something far more subtle, and is usually something thats to the benefit of people who can read them correctly.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/21 05:11 PM
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I love how you say this like its the most normal thing in the world, lmao.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/21 11:34 AM
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Seems like a fair tradeoff to me. I fuck the girls I approach, while the good, decent guys spend their nights alone because they were respectful of a strange woman's wishes. Lol, I can't imagine only ever approaching women who seem open to it. There's just no logic behind that you're the reason women use these defence mechanisms No, its women who are the reasons they adopt these "defence mechanisms". I never told them to see guys trying to have basic conversations with them as some sort of annoy…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/21 04:35 PM
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If you say so. Now on to my next point: I'm adding saying I'm bad at cooking and blowjobs to my list of qualities needed to repel low value men. It might sound forced if you bring up those things out of the blue. If you want to repel men you'd have better luck telling them you have a kid or that you don't shave your legs or something like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/21 07:44 PM
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Basically my point was, if you're gonna use metrics like poor, ugly, out of shape to define the "quality" of men, then you can't use "awesome" in how you define high quality women. Also you'd be surprised how many points people will tack on if they know you can make them feel really good. Sure women do it more but men do it as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/21 06:30 PM
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That wasn't even the main point of that part of my comment but nevertheless, a lot of guys care about those two things. Yeah, rich people can hire people but we weren't talking specifically about rich men, but about men in general. I'm adding saying I'm bad at cooking and blowjobs to my list of qualities needed to repel low value men. It might sound forced if you bring up those things out of the blue. If you want to repel men you'd have better luck telling them you have a kid or that you don't s…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/21 06:01 PM
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Its difficult. I consider myself to be a HV man because I can get a lot of girls who are quite cute, am well-liked socially, have a good life etc, yet I'm still lower value, going by your parameters, than all the women I fuck. I wouldn't want women learning how to repel low-value men at all. Also: to stop gross dudes from hitting on awesome women I find it hilarious that your definition for a low-quality man is one who is ugly, poor, out of shape etc but your definition for high-quality women is…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/21 10:16 PM
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Way ahead of you. I tried that once. Never heard from the woman again. Then I approached a woman who continued walking and ignored me. I walked beside her and kept talking on and on. Eventually got her to start responding, and later started fucking her. I've been doing the latter ever since.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/21 09:20 PM
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Pretty sure I already said it though. "I don't need to respect a woman in order to fuck her, she just needs to be hot." I don't know why its only registering for you now.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/21 10:31 PM
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I only vet these women out as LTR material. I don't vet women out at all for flings, not matter how shitty a person I think they are. They just have to be attractive to me. So if I thnk you're a little brat, I would still pursue you sexually. I just wouldn't be fucking you for very long.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/21 06:53 PM
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Like its one thing if while sitting behind your computer you believe I couldn't fuck you if I wanted to, but to actually say that in response to my comment makes absolutely no sense. Its the literal opposite of what I said.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/21 06:47 PM
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LOL
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/21 06:09 PM
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So to sum up, if you act in a way that causes some random guy to think you're piece of shit, you better make damn sure you don't ever end up fucking him later lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/21 04:18 PM
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Like come on man, did you really think I needed to be told that women don't care about the opinions of randoms? Of course not. No matter how bad your depression is you had to realize that that wasn't the point I was making.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/21 09:48 AM
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Yep, I fully understood your comment the first time :) Never said you rejected your husband. You chose to be with your husband instead of being alone, so clearly he must be someone you wanted something long term with. You'd be surprised what kind of men women will choose to be with to avoid being alone. Well I guess you wouldn't be that surprised, considering you did the same thing :D
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/21 11:04 AM
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One thing I learned about women is that a guy being attractive means nothing if he's a needy loser. He's not seen as a high value male in that case. Its why they fuck guys like me when they can do far better, looks-wise. So a woman saying "my husband might be beta but at least he's attractive" is a like a man saying "she might be ugly but at least she'll never cheat on me!" Its basically stating that you got dealt a shitty hand.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/21 08:59 AM
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Because “no” should deter you, and you should be socialised enough to know that body language that says “no” is as valid as verbally saying “no” Haha, yes, indeed. Body language saying no and a verbal no are both equally valid when nobody asked a question or made a request to which no would be an applicable response. WHY is she telling me no? Did I ask her out? Did I ask for her number? Did I even express any sort of romantic interest at all at that point?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/21 08:07 AM
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What do you mean it protects you(or other women) from fucking me? Thats the exact opposite of what I said in my comment lmao.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/21 09:22 PM
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I just explained to you in detail how this has nothing to do with boundaries. I'm afraid its gonna take a lot more to convince me than simply saying "yes there is" without providing any sort of counterexplanation or argument.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/21 09:18 PM
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Basically, the whole strategy of picking up a woman who isn't interested is to be purely conversational at first. The strategy isn't so weak that it becomes completely invalidated just because the woman knows why you're talking to her lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/21 08:42 PM
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Well I don't see how your behavior is supposed to "keep you safe" from people you consider predators. Like I said, it makes me think less of a woman as a person, but it doesn't stop me from pursuing them sexually. I don't need to respect a woman in order to fuck her, she just needs to be hot.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/21 08:32 PM
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LOL, what "boundaries"? Human interaction is not stepping over someone's boundaries. Its the easiest thing in the world to just be dismissive to someone if you don't think you want anything from them. There's no boundaries being enforced there. At the very least, enforcing boundaries requires you to be assertive and women aren't being assertive in doing this.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/21 08:30 PM
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Its not just body language. Words also mean nothing when the context isn't there. For example, if I go and strike up a conversation with a woman and she says "leave me alone" or "not interested", well neither of those would be appropriate things to say because I didn't say or ask her for anything that those would be applicable responses to. She's acting as if I went up and asked for her number or something when what I'm doing is starting a conversation.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/21 08:29 PM
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You have to ask yourself why you're interacting on a regular basis with people you consider "predators".
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/21 08:06 PM
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As another user here would say, "okay."
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/21 07:39 PM
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LOL, what "boundaries"? Human interaction is not stepping over someone's boundaries. Its the easiest thing in the world to just be dismissive to someone if you don't think you want anything from them. There's no boundaries being enforced there. At the very least, enforcing boundaries requires you to be assertive and women aren't being assertive in doing this.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/21 07:38 PM
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You're being VERY presumptious for telling me shit like this without explaining yourself. Like am I supposed to understand what you're talking about?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/21 07:36 PM
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Hmm...considering having to talk to people is a byproduct of living in society, I guess living outside of society would grant you what you want.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/21 05:39 PM
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oh
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/21 04:38 PM
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Yeah, its not attractive in the same way a guy who ghosts you after you've had sex a few times is not attractive. So what?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/21 04:22 PM
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Because what I look for in a quick fling is very different from what I look for in a long term relationship. Like if I thought a woman was a little brat but she was hot I would still fuck her, but I would never start a family with such a woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/21 04:20 PM
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I should have clarified - a straight man who actually dates women. So not rp.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/21 04:09 PM
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Don’t you think women know you’re going to try this before you even start? Hence why they’d rather not bother if they’re not interested Can you point out which part of my comment didn't already address this thoroughly?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/21 03:59 PM
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Just a heads up No need - considering I actually am a straight man, I know what is and isn't attractive to women :D
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/21 03:56 PM
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Yes, you are
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/21 03:48 PM
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I guess the distinction wouldn't matter to you. But as a guy approaching women, especially a woman who isn't interested, its very important to know the difference, when to be purely conversational and when to be flirty and more. If you do the approach right, it won't matter that she knows what you're up to. Hell I approach women with the assumption that they know exactly why I'm talking to them.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/21 03:46 PM
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What "theories"? I never posted any theory of mine here. As for them not caring, actually read the comments that I responded with to "okay"
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/21 03:43 PM
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Because she’d rather go home and watch TV. If you want someone to do something, You completely missed the point of what I was saying. smh. I could also say basic respect is NOT treating someone who tries to have a basic conversation with you as an annoyance. Now you're probably gonna say that nobody owes me anything, which brings me back to my original point. I don't "owe" it to a woman I approach to put her wants above my own.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/21 03:30 PM
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I'm not talking about sexual advances. When I first approach a woman, I just have a conversation with her. Sexual advances come later, once I can tell that she IS open to it.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/21 03:27 PM
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Hey, I thought they were a human being with functioning braincells lol. That's why I bothered explaining myself when they voiced a concern. But it turns out the reason it "doesn't care" is not being it already has people in its life, but because that's what mental health issues does to you - makes you apathetic.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/21 03:26 PM
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Oh, you're way misunderstanding. Never said I can't read social cues. I can tell perfectly well that she doesn't want me to approach her. Its really not hard at all to pick up on. If I did "respect her wishes", all I'd be doing is saying that her assumptions about me are right, that I really don't have anything that she wants. "Autistic" indeed.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/21 03:26 PM
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I see, that explains it. I'm not saying I have super high standards or anything but I wouldn't approach a woman I didn't at least find attractive, so I never see it as too much effort to bother with. The only exception to this, other than if I'm already seeing someone, is if I'm the one who's just not in the mood. Like I just came to get something from the store and am not thinking about getting laid or anything With the majority of men on this sub, "hot girl" = "shows interest in me". With the …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/21 02:43 PM
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Yeah but back to your point - when you haven't even approached her yet? Of course she doesn't care what you think. Why would she? Its the easiest thing in the world to not care about the opinion of someone if you don't think you'll ever want anything from them
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/21 02:41 PM
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Exactly. And even if you never see him again, if you give that impression of an antisocial brat to strangers there's a good chance that you give off similar negative vibes to people who you do know and want something from. Like that's not the kind of shit you can compartmentalize, you know. You can't be a bitch to a total stranger, and expect that to have no effect on the type of person you come off to other people as well. Doesn't work like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/21 02:31 PM
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Why are you approaching women who are making it abundantly clear they don’t want to be approached? Because like I'm said, I'm interested in them. I don't know how them adopting cold body language is supposed to deter me. Like am I supposed to be overly empathetic to a total stranger to the point where I respect her wishes at the expense of what I want? Why doesn't she do the same? Why doesn't she recognize that I might be attracted to her and come talk to me when she'd rather go home and watch T…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/21 02:25 PM
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Women who give me the cold shoulder when I first approach them but still fuck me later.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/21 02:20 PM
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I said appear rude. As in they look like they actually get rude if you'd go up to them.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/21 02:18 PM
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If she's showing that language to you when you make eye contact, then she wants to avoid being approached by you, doesn't matter what kind of man you are. But what I'm asking is what's the idea behind. How is looking unfriendly supposed to deter guys from approaching who are actually interested in her?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/21 02:16 PM
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They don't care in the moment, but the key is that just because the woman doesn't want you to approach her doesn't mean you can't still do so successfully. You can still get her invested in you and become part of her life, and now she has a guy she's fucking but who doesn't have a very high opinion of her as a person. That's my point.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/21 02:10 PM
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Like I said, women should do what they think is right :D
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/21 12:41 PM
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but it significantly shortens the time they waste "shooting their shot." If it has any effect at all then the guy probably just doesn't know how you approach women. The wording you use("shooting your shot") suggests to me that these are the types of guys you're getting approached by. You don't approach a woman to shoot your shot. You approach her because you want to get a woman you're attracted to invested in you as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/21 12:31 PM
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That's another thing lol if they don't want to be approached they shouldn't fuck you when you do anyway. Its really hard to "get the message" that way.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/21 12:03 PM
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Maybe I misspoke but the point is I'm referring specifically to women adopt that kind of expression and body language when they don't want to be approached.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/21 12:00 PM
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Oh yeah, totally. A fair amount of women who appear rude just look like that and are actually friendly when you go up to them. But most of the time, they are trying to send you a message and are trying to get you to not approach them. Either way, there's no reason to leave you alone. If you do that, you're basically saying her assumptions about you are right, that you really do have nothing that she wants.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/21 11:42 AM
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Dude stop saying "Julien". I don't know what you're talking about. Anyway, I'm not an expert on the whole mental aspect. I'm more of a practical guy; I learn something and go do it. That said, I think the idea of "being in your head" is more to do with being held in place with negative thoughts that don't have any real basis anyway. Like "I can't approach her, people are watching" - who cares? Or "she probably has a boyfriend" - you won't know until you actually talk to her. It doesn't mean "don…
/r/seduction31/01/21 07:14 PM
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Meant to say the "vast majority of guys" don't need to approach, and that's why they don't do it. But again, Unless you're really suave, approaching is in and of itself a DLV, because she'll be wondering "why is he hitting on me here? doesn't he know any cute girls"?
/r/seduction30/01/21 11:26 AM
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The vast majority of guys are paralysed by fear. Not really. The vast majority of guys just already have women from their work, college, hobbies and just social life in general that they can pursue, so they simply don't have to make cold approaches in bars and stuff. That's why they don't do it. But if you really want to its not hard at all to summon up the courage, especially if the woman's really attractive.
/r/seduction30/01/21 08:52 AM
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This is what I was trying to explain to you in my comment. Getting picky women invested in you is a skill in its own right. It won't come naturally just because you have your own place and dress well.
/r/seduction26/12/20 08:32 AM
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Oh, you're grossly misunderstanding. I'm not saying you have to show respect to women. Its more yourself that you have to respect.
/r/seduction25/12/20 06:41 AM
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Getting your work life in order before worrying about your dating life is important. Now the rest of your checklist, they aren't bad things to do, but you're better off focusing on those things once you can at least already get girls. If you can't then that's the more fundamental issue that should be prioritized. Thinking you should get your own place for example before you can date is kind of ridiculous. You're just gonna end up presenting an odd sort of image of an unevenly-developed person be…
/r/seduction24/12/20 07:21 PM
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It is pretty deplorable to get a one night stand by pretending to be interested in a long term relationship. Nobody owes anyone anything, dude. That's something women themselves will tell you every opportunity they get.
/r/seduction24/12/20 05:32 PM
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