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We already are.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/21 11:23 PM
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I'm not trolling.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/21 10:52 PM
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And yet millions of women do it every year. Like I said, all things worth having take work in this world. Imagine how amazing it would be to hold that child in your arms afterwards. Knowing he or she is yours.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/21 10:51 PM
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Nothing good in this world doesn't take hard work. Motherhood should be worshiped.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/21 10:49 PM
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I've passed up sex with mentally unstable, much younger women because I didn't want the idea of using them on my conscience. Women should be able to say "no" firmly too. Lord knows their sex drive isn't as powerful as mine.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/21 10:49 PM
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Yeah I'm willing to bet 90% of PPD girls like calling their bfs "daddy" in bed.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/21 10:47 PM
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Nothing in my post presupposes we can't.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/21 10:43 PM
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It is bad for your mental health. It means your libido remains constantly high. You are not able to make rational decisions because sex is always on your brain. Whereas for men, we can just deal with lust easily, and then get on with life. You find it difficult to manage or sate lust, sex is a much bigger part of your lives than it is ours.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/21 10:42 PM
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No thanks. I'm a man, transsexualism is a grotesque parody of the beauty of womanhood.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/21 10:34 PM
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Reasonable. I wouldn't expect a full-time working woman to do it either.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/21 10:11 PM
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Expected better from an Italian girl.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/21 10:10 PM
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He encapsulated it very well.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/21 09:47 PM
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Weeb girls are sluts though.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/21 09:45 PM
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You should love children. You should marvel at your body's ability to create life. Men literally used to worship Goddesses because of this ability. Instead you describe it in crude terms. Any sex without the implication of impregnation is sterile theater, make-believe bullshit, I've come to understand this. European women could be producing so many children.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/21 09:27 PM
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Reasonable.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/21 09:25 PM
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It's about competition between nations and groups. Obviously no one who seriously understands the world thinks say, Chinese women are as self destructive as Anglosphere women. These trends are intergenerational decline. Zoomers are just millennials who are even more militantly lib for example.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/21 09:11 PM
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TRP and the red pill is closeted homosexuals and always have been. A big part of why women are so hysterical and solipsistic is because of delayed pregnancy. Pregnancy is literally good for a woman's body and soul. She becomes less lustful, her vital energy is directed to a real tangible human child she birthed and she's simply more mature. A lot of PPD girls of the dysfunctional variety could benefit from a pregnancy.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/21 09:09 PM
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I've always seen the hyperbole as necessary because, while that's not the present state of society, we are heading in that direction, and if zoomer sexuality is anything to go by, we're headed there fast. It's good to scare people. We need a new paradigm. One where women realize sex isn't the only form of entertainment on the planet and where dysfunctional chads are punished.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/21 09:06 PM
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Aren't you a mother?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/21 09:00 PM
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Good
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/21 08:25 PM
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You know there's more to life than sex, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/21 08:23 PM
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I mean it's pretty crude to be so obsessed with dicks. Don't you claim you can live without dick? Doesn't sound like you girls can live without dick to me. You sure talk about it a lot.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/21 08:16 PM
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Most women would rather have a handsome face than a big dick. That's the trade off you pick.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/21 08:00 PM
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LSE. I went to university in the UK.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/21 07:56 PM
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Do you do everything you're asked?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/21 07:55 PM
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Hahaha. If all women were like you, the world would be a more peaceful place.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/21 07:52 PM
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No.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/21 07:47 PM
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Weirdly I feel you may be onto something with the zoomer/millennial distinction gimpgirl. I've noticed a lot of millennial women's liberalism is increasingly performative and tired as they get older, it's like they're doing it as muscle memory, as a hollow rite, rather than anything they truly believe in.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/21 07:46 PM
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It's called realizing what you did, and more importantly, what the women did, was wrong and immoral.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/21 07:45 PM
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I elaborate on my ideas in the thread, I'm emphatically NOT saying men should be weak-willed incompetent losers who can't even put a shelving set up. I'm saying that women doing things like noticing their husband isn't eating well because of work stress, and cooking him something nice that night, giving him a kiss and a hug etc, isn't some awful thing FDS makes it out to be.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/21 07:44 PM
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How difficult is it for you to say "no"?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/21 07:42 PM
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There's virtually no chance of them making serious money. Even the big name porn "actresses" are destitute. The very idea of porn as a get-rich-quick scheme for the women was invented as a marketing trick to encourage young girls to do scenes.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/21 07:42 PM
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I've actually addressed this exact point before. I have slept around in the past. The distinction between me and PPD girls is that I don't defend what I did. I fully acknowledge it was sinful, shameful, immoral behavior - however you want to couch it. The problem with women, particularly nerdy women, is that they don't acknowledge what they did was immoral. They invent elaborate mental copes, like that it was a "learning experience who helped them become who they are today" and so on. Simple rul…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/21 07:40 PM
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There's nothing "respectful" about making your girlfriend do ass to mouth and then spitting on her face. Sorry to break it to you sweetheart. Those men were just lying to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/21 07:35 PM
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No we don't.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/21 07:34 PM
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Casual relationships are bad.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/21 07:29 PM
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This much I agree with. I think women's love and adoration of extremely violent forms of pornography is because it's the only sort of visible symbol of male authority and domination, in an explicit sense, that remains. CS Lewis said "deny [spiritual nature] food and it will gobble poison". In this case, women used to experience male authority in a more functional way at home, with their fathers and brothers, now all that remains of male authority and dominance is on the periphery: violent crimin…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/21 07:28 PM
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It's laughable to claim people in this era of media simulacra are somehow free-thinking perfectly rational agents who come to conclusions through the result of some sort of rigorous internal deliberation. People accept what is put in front of them, whatever the society.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/21 07:23 PM
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I agree. I think you get it. I'm not saying a man should be an incompetent baby. I'm saying a wife sometimes need to adopt maternal behavior to look after things he may be ignoring, like his health, because he's busy with other stuff.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/21 07:22 PM
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I'm talking more generally here, not in reference to the topic of this thread.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/21 07:13 PM
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Alienation = Higher likelihood of mental illness. You aren't as bad as Anglos though.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/21 07:11 PM
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It's a good example of a very direct way in which identity politics hurts the movement for workers' rights. So much time and energy devoted to D&I bullshit (I work for an international company), so little to basic things like ensuring a decent amount of paid leave, adequate facilities for staff, a mentally healthy working environment, a living wage etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/21 07:07 PM
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Alpha males refers to a biological phenomenon of not just reproductive fitness among women, but leadership qualities among men too. In short, women want to fuck these men and other men respect them and want to follow them where they go. The idea an "alpha" is some sort of hyper-individualistic Tyler Durden-like sociopath, again, comes from Anglo-American culture.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/21 06:57 PM
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I'd argue there's an overlap, but I can understand if you see it as a hard distinction. I think by the same token, wanting to take care of your wife when she's upset, having a panic attack, feeling sad as women are wont to do, is somewhat paternal.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/21 06:56 PM
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I'm half joking. I like the Scandinavian countries, but I think your individualism can be really damaging for young girls.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/21 06:55 PM
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The distinction is elaborated upon within the post.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/21 06:51 PM
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I've been quite clear that incompetence isn't tolerable. I dislike incompetent men. My point is that women need to sometimes do things like cook, clean, look after their man (e.g. pay attention to how often he's eating if he's working hard) and so on.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/21 06:42 PM
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I'm unmarried my good man.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/21 06:17 PM
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I'm not Russian lol. I dunno why you guys are so obsessed with Russians. They don't think about you at all. And no. Your culture is not good because fathers don't protect daughters.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/21 05:56 PM
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It's not about betabuxxing, it's more that I don't want to be seen as being in need of anything myself that isn't necessary.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/21 05:39 PM
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A little bit dumber but not stupid.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/21 05:36 PM
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Most girls want a guy of higher intelligence if they're professionals.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/21 05:30 PM
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I just want to care materially for the people I care about.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/21 05:29 PM
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Not really into girls in my field. I went on a date with a fellow Greek girl who worked for KPMG and found her too intelligent.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/21 05:28 PM
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True. I agree that was wrong of me.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/21 05:28 PM
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She'd have an input into that.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/21 05:10 PM
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Typical imageboard grill
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/21 05:10 PM
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Sure. If they can manage it.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/21 05:07 PM
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I'm attracted to far more in women than just looks.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/21 05:07 PM
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Men are supposed to be the ones caring for their dependents. It shows a certain strong detachment to not care about some material thing in return. Shouldn't be a quid pro quo.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/21 05:07 PM
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I work in finance so I grasp this stuff better than most women
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/21 05:06 PM
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This annoys me.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/21 05:04 PM
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I'd help out on weekends and evenings. Also I don't expect presents from my partners. I think it's kind of feminine for men to receive presents. Men should be giving presents.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/21 05:02 PM
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Normal sex is not boring.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/21 05:01 PM
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Because long hours make it harder for such a father to be as present. Because it is a sign of love to help support your partner through their anxiety and issues. Forgiving of him being stupid and joking around and being verbally clumsy sometimes. I am forgiving too yes. And absolutely yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/21 04:54 PM
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What was the high school dude like.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/21 04:48 PM
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I'm not trolling. When I say large matters I mean where we live, big purchases, money, investment etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/21 04:47 PM
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I'm just a lot more honest than most of the men on here. Who are typical Reddit nice guys. I will answer any question you ask. I always have.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/21 04:44 PM
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One hundred percent. I take the big decisions. She doesn't need to worry about those matters.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/21 04:39 PM
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Nannies are expensive here. I'd hire a cleaner though. And a part time nanny.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/21 04:39 PM
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I will earn significantly more than most of my partners so I don't see why I have to take care of the kids when they're young to the same degree.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/21 04:35 PM
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Have you dated or fucked that kind of man in the past?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/21 04:28 PM
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You like that kind of man?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/21 04:21 PM
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No. Sleeping with some dumb pothead because you think he's cute and deep isn't the same.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/21 04:16 PM
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I'm not religious either.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/21 03:57 PM
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I've never claimed I'm a saint. My count is in the double digits. The difference between me and you is that I fully acknowledge that my past behaviour was bad and sinful. I don't try and dress it up as something good or a learning experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/21 03:30 PM
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Only if they got better. Which cluster b women never do.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/21 03:15 PM
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Fair enough. But it damages the kids in that sort of context. And I have been a de facto therapist for women. I've dated girls with BPD. I'm sure you can imagine how that went.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/21 03:03 PM
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I just find the idea of someone using the phrase unironically really funny. It's like meeting someone who believes in PUA unironically in real life.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/21 03:02 PM
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Sure. There's no handbook for this stuff. It's all rather arbitrary. But a slut is a slut.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/21 02:55 PM
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Hold frame bro.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/21 02:53 PM
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It's an imperfect system but it works
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/21 02:52 PM
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Do you forget you're on the toilet sometimes and need someone to help you get out?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/21 02:33 PM
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Any age
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/21 02:32 PM
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Why not? Assume you had four kids with a husband.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/21 02:30 PM
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Lol @ thinking not even remembering things you yourself wrote down and published means you're smart.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/21 02:30 PM
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Low IQ = Poor memory
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/21 02:23 PM
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Would you ever forgive cheating?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/21 02:17 PM
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I think the happy medium is just being sexually explicit for your husband. Wear cute lingerie, be submissive, be a bit of a hoebag.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/21 02:11 PM
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I don't like this attitude that you shouldn't do emotional labor for your man. You should be kind. Being an empath is in your nature.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/21 02:08 PM
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I think it's faulty to have it to an extreme extent. But understand that it's normal for men to lust after sexually explicit women. And that's not true. You can help in the role of a therapist analog.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/21 02:04 PM
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I disagree. Most negative stereotypes about white women come from anglosphere women. Southern European and Eastern European women are nowhere near as bad.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/21 01:51 PM
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I'm just saying what you'd need to do to keep me. And I don't think my view has changed.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/21 01:50 PM
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I don't disagree but I think you can give us a chance. My advice to purer women would be to be performative hoes in bed for one man
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/21 01:38 PM
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What question did you have?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/21 01:25 PM
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You're being aggressive.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/21 01:16 PM
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It's less to do with those elements of social constructivism and more to do with how culture is created in a Nietzschean sense, and how it loses its vital essence and is replaced by a symbolic interpretation of the original thing. Some postmodern thinkers like Baudrillard actually have very interesting takes on this process. Baudrillard thinks much of modern culture is built around a symbolic interpretation of reality that creates a shared consciousness. He uses the word "simulacra" to describe …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/21 12:43 PM
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You should be more respectful.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/21 12:29 PM
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I think the problem is that men no longer define masculinity just like women no longer define femininity. Both of these things are now shorthand for sexual desire, nothing more nuanced.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/21 12:28 PM
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I'm familiar with dualism but you're confusing two completely different types of philosophy here. Please pay more attention when I'm trying to teach you things.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/21 12:25 PM
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It's not that extreme with me at least.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/21 12:17 PM
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Masculinity is performative. It isn't actually based around things like fighting in wars or digging ditches anymore. It is based around corrupted symbolism.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/21 12:17 PM
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I don't think we are good partners, I agree. But you can give us a chance.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/21 12:12 PM
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No I'm single.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/21 12:05 PM
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Disappointed.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/21 12:05 PM
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You seem like a good Catholic woman. You're exactly the sort of woman I'm talking about. I'd put you on a pedestal so high you'd be airliner cruising altitude.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/21 11:55 AM
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Those women aren't ideal marital partners. To be honest even when a woman talks about sex openly it's a red flag as a relationship flag to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/21 11:53 AM
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No. It means that luxuriating in transient pleasure clouds people's minds as to what is truly important.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/21 11:52 AM
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I am attracted to those women but it isn't the same primal desire I feel with a wanton and sexually immoral woman who wears stuff like crop tops and skirts above around the thighs.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/21 11:18 AM
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No. It is cheapening sex and statistically reducing their chances of a stable marriage.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/21 11:17 AM
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They are engaging in self destructive behaviour.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/21 11:10 AM
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Most people are screwed up these days in some way or another.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/21 11:10 AM
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I don't really disagree.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/21 11:07 AM
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There's no need to get angry.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/21 11:02 AM
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Being overly trusting and naïve around men is what has unfortunately given white women the global reputation they now have. And I don't say that with any joy, believe me.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/21 11:01 AM
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Lmao. I agree with all of that. I'm most attracted to white women myself physically though. Also what is it with white women and their attraction to dumb tattoos on men? Do they seriously think it makes them tough? The average Cantonese rice farmer is tougher than these whiners.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/21 10:42 AM
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You're just an exception. That should make you feel special.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/21 10:16 AM
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Nah. Decent women don't like fuckboys.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/21 09:38 AM
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Simply not true.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/21 09:36 AM
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The extreme variant of not feeling any arousal at all is indeed not normal. That's not what I'm referring to. I qualified it in the post.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/21 09:25 AM
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Yes. That's why smart fathers teach their daughters to stay away from men and why I'm against men and women mixing freely.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/21 09:25 AM
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This is a very stupid take. I expected better.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/21 09:24 AM
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A wise man
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/21 09:22 AM
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Majority of young women defend porn too.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/21 09:20 AM
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Apologize.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/21 09:19 AM
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David Chase was pretty clear that Tony Soprano was a broken, immoral person. He didn't make the Sopranos to push immorality.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/21 09:17 AM
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Women watch it because it is titillating. Do not invent elaborate copes.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/21 09:16 AM
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Remember that these shows are made on purpose. The producers know exactly what they're doing and promoting. It's not a whimsical thing, it's systematic.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/21 09:15 AM
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Such a dumb point. All human relationships are based on some implicit performance of a contract on some level. Nobody would tell a girl with an abusive father she needs to respect him, but if he's a good man, she absolutely should. Westerners need to read Confucius and shut up.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/21 09:13 AM
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We accept it.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/21 09:11 AM
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I wonder whether they made the boss Asian on purpose to underscore perceived white female promiscuity.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/21 09:10 AM
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Women's deep sexual nature is a decivlizing influence and always has been. Jfl @ "picking the best genes". A purely sexually selected male population would all be 8 foot 1 and get osteoarthritis at the age of 6. Also low IQ and low impulse control as these are sexually attractive traits.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/21 09:07 AM
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Wait. Who are they? I'm new here.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/21 08:49 AM
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More than 5 men.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/21 08:48 AM
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I'm not qualifying it, order isn't a legal or a religious thing. It is simple the absence of chaos, discord, conflict etc, on a spectrum
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/21 08:46 AM
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You have less of a physical need for sex. It's that simple. Control yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/21 08:43 AM
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I did actually say in a previous post fujoshi types are usually genuinely very awkward and virgins into adulthood more often than not.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/21 08:43 AM
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Weeb girls principally.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/21 08:42 AM
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Single women
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/21 08:08 AM
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Kinks are disgusting by and large
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/21 08:08 AM
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More than 5
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/21 08:02 AM
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More than 5
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/21 08:02 AM
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Women's sin is everyone's problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/21 01:31 AM
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I hate nerds too for the most part. But I only raised this because nerdy girls tend to be promiscuous.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/21 01:02 AM
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Sooner will a camel pass through the eye of a needle than finding a purple haired gamer girl with a body count of less than 15.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/21 01:01 AM
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No. I unironically have a huge Madonna Whore dichotomy and like sleeping with women I consider morally repulsive. I've explained this in earlier posts.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/21 12:59 AM
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I've never railed at attractive normal women (stacies). I just dislike nerdy girls.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/21 12:57 AM
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I am not a Brit, thank God.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/21 12:55 AM
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Are you nerdy?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/21 12:31 AM
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They are good in bed if nothing else.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/21 10:26 PM
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In what you've seen/your experiences with fellow nerdy women?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/21 10:10 PM
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Why do you say the sexual mores of cosplayers are different? And what do you think would -stop- a girl from going into porn, if offered? Fear of being discovered? Any inherent moral quality? I wonder what happened to all these people like Miyavi to be honest. Part of me feels sorry for them and hope they managed to settle down with some random and have a proper family. There's another one I remember but I'm not going to publicly name her because she's very, very niche and specific, but her backg…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/21 09:32 PM
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I've had a similar experience in the past. Fact is, a lot of us are people who were raised by, or had cultural values that taught things like sharing that other people take advantage of unfortunately. It's a shame.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/21 09:30 PM
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Where did it all go so wrong for you?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/21 09:14 PM
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I remember reading a post on an imageboard by a dude who said porn recruiters actively solicit gaming and anime cons for girls these days though. It's hard not to see this as like... a pathway of sorts? Like the fact WoW guilds produced multiple porn hoes. I'm surprised you remember Miyavi, nobody else really remembers.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/21 09:04 PM
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Do you remember the whole Death and Taxes egirl thing?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/21 08:59 PM
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Who said i believe in redpill grifters? Have a look at your own comment history.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/21 08:45 PM
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Imagine believing in redpill grifters in the current era. Perhaps if you wear a hat with a feather in it at a jaunty angle, women will pay attention to you. Only $1,000 a term for these tips and more! Why are Americans like this? Why can't they just be normal people and not sign up for "dating boot camps", chop their dicks off, have race riots every two years etc?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/21 08:39 PM
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Yeah I agree. I'm not even saying they shouldn't be jaded, just that it's quite sad. When a woman loses that altruistic essence, it's like she loses part of her femininity.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/21 08:30 PM
1

I spent a large part of my life in nerdy social circles, online and off, yes. You can't really *not* interact with them in that context.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/21 08:26 PM
4

Who cares? Americans of that variety are truly deranged, scary people with a level of brainwashing well beyond anything the DPRK or Russia are capable of. Leave.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/21 08:14 PM
2

I'm glad it all turned out alright.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/21 08:11 PM
1

Yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/21 08:08 PM
2

I met some of them on Tinder.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/21 08:08 PM
7

Jesus Christ. Do you really care about what some dumb deranged libs say when it's your own life and future at stake, and that of your child? Leave!
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/21 08:08 PM
3

I do think it's really sad how jaded and unhappy a lot of older women seem to be. I find women my own age (in their 30s) to be really hot still, but they've lost youthful vigor. And I don't mean visually. I mean they're just less altruistic, kind, gentle and sweet than they once were.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/21 08:06 PM
2

They were average and above average. Like one was genuinely "hot" in a traditional sense. Red/auburn braided hair and pale skin and all that. The rest were just cute.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/21 08:05 PM
1

How did you stop yourself doing anything risky?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/21 08:04 PM
1

Oh dear. That's not good.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/21 07:57 PM
1

What was so good about your grandfather?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/21 07:57 PM
2

My references are my own experiences. The girls I slept with were 5s to 7s.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/21 07:55 PM
3

I'm sorry if this is an intimate question and please, feel free not to answer it, but I've read that bizarre sexual fetishes of the submissive kind often preface a desire to "become trans" among men. Like, they imagine themselves as some sort of stereotypically submissive woman they've seen in porn or whatever.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/21 07:37 PM
1

Sure. I didn't see it as such at the time though. I just saw it as some sort of enjoyable indulgence. The strange thing with these girls was, if they were into you and you told them explicitly "I don't want to meet up and fuck you because you're too young/too impulsive" or something to that effect, then they'd hate you forevermore. They'd hate you more than the guy who has no morals and dicked them down the next weekend. No joke. They'd verbally abuse you and say you thought they were ugly and s…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/21 07:28 PM
1

I think a lot of women have BPD-like symptoms, even if it's not official. That's more just modernity driving everyone insane with the miserable social and cultural conditions it creates for the masses though. E-Dating certainly isn't real, but for the people involved, the emotions they feel are. Like I say, there's this idea the internet is a highly abstracted reality where you can simulate essentially anything. Including "love" even. That is essentially what is going on. Not that most IRL datin…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/21 07:25 PM
1

I mean it's not entirely different from women who sleep with bums and then complain about them sitting on their couch smoking weed all day while she works, no?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/21 07:21 PM
0

With the greatest of respect, is it surprising to you that men sleep with women they don't particularly like on a moral level? I'm genuinely curious.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/21 07:18 PM
1

Your sex drives are biochemically less extreme than ours.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/21 07:17 PM
3

She berated me in an off topic way in a previous thread so I wanted to tell her to f off.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/21 07:17 PM
1

I never took advantage of anyone. The idea of sleeping with someone who doesn't bona fide want to sleep with me is disgusting.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/21 07:03 PM
1

I'd say anime fan guys are worse. Everything is cloaked in some veil of plausibly deniable "irony" for them. Nothing is real or sincere. It's the endpoint of Baudrillard's simulacrum.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/21 07:01 PM
3

I've noticed polyamory is more common among ugly people.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/21 06:55 PM
1

I actually prefer non-virgin pussy from a purely sexual perspective. Non-virgins are, of course, better in bed. But it's an important event and nothing will change my mind on that. We shouldn't cheapen sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/21 06:55 PM
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Yeah, it did actually. I'm not proud of all of the things I've done. But there were occasions I could have fucked more women than I did, or fucked or gotten nudes from girls who were legal, but young enough to make me feel skeevy. I avoided all of that. Again, not defending my past. I've been sinful and made mistakes. I'll probably pay for it by never being able to date a girl as good as one of the first I dated, but then left to pursue stupid hedonistic pursuits.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/21 06:54 PM
0

Liberty is the mother of order Liberty is the mother of OnlyFans, slutty daughters and gracelessly expiring from your xanax addiction.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/21 06:50 PM
1

I'm not sure, I haven't really hung out on these places for ages, I remember back when I was on the chans I met someone through that map tagging thing they had (years and years ago). I suppose it's fairly easy to meet up if you're in a major metropolis though. Do girls on MMOs still do it? Hmm. I am guessing there's a lot less attention on there than there used to be. It's less of a novelty. Perhaps that's why they feel the need to be increasingly explicit in their nerdy sexuality.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/21 06:48 PM
1

They could learn a skill and guarantee themselves a far more secure income than what they'd get on OF, probably far more in gross terms too.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/21 06:47 PM
3

Cookie cutter things: Edgy variants of Sanrio characters "Ironically" talking about their sexual fantasies, fetishes, hentai "Ironically" taking ahegao pics "Ironically" enjoying eroge Love of cosplay or wanting to cosplay Love of alternative J-fashion like lolita, or something even more niche if they're extra-special not-like-other-girls. Daddy fetish Fetishes that revolve not just around submission, but being degraded, things that are probably too extreme to go into in detail here Loving FOTM …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/21 06:46 PM
1

I generally don't. Unless they personally offend me. They need to listen to men who have their best interests at heart.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/21 06:33 PM
1

I can remember it sort of taking off around the same time. The phenomenon of girls who play WoW sleeping with multiple guildmates they met in game. Most famous example was probably a female player for the leading US guild of that time, Death and Taxes, fucking both her boyfriend and then a few days later, the guildmaster. This must have been... 2008 or 2009? Her nudes were plastered everywhere. It was sad. I don't understand why nerdy women have no self respect.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/21 06:26 PM
1

Explain.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/21 06:18 PM
1

I acknowledge my behavior in the past was sinful and immoral. How many PPD women do the same? If they did, I'd fully accept it. But every woman on this sub with a "past" (most of them) just employs ostensibly copes and face-saving tactics like "it was a learning experience" or whatever. I don't. That's the distinction.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/21 06:14 PM
1

Mainly Tinder. I stopped having casual "relationships" and casual sex because it was just making me more miserable though.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/21 06:09 PM
1

How so?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/21 06:07 PM
2

MGTOW is dumb.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/21 06:02 PM
1

Women should have more self control than men.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/21 05:58 PM
1

When I was younger it was forums and imageboards.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/21 05:54 PM
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I hate to bring race into it, but it seems to be more of a white weeb girl thing. I've noticed educated black women are actually pretty good at avoiding casual sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/21 05:45 PM
1

I expected better from you.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/21 05:44 PM
1

Do they?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/21 05:40 PM
1

Everyone implicitly understands and agrees order is desirable and the most basic foundation point for anything else anyone talks about. For example, you can say "my moral axiom is that people should learn", but how can people learn or educate themselves in a disordered society? Hierarchy is the acme of order.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/21 05:37 PM
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That's called Locke's harm principle. My principles are that order and hierarchy are morally righteous.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/21 05:35 PM
0

I agree bro. My moral code is extremely rigorous. If two people consent to something that makes it moral. It doesn't matter this justifies things like cannibalism, suicide pacts with vulnerable people etc, I'll just invent ex-post facto "ifs" and "buts" to this code to try and sure up its foundations.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/21 05:34 PM
1

Who has less sex statistically?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/21 05:31 PM
2

Honestly I have very little experience with normal women. Most women I've slept with I met online, off of dating apps etc. The two very long term relationships I had, were normal women I met through friends, they were much less sexually immoral but admittedly much less sexually exciting too.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/21 05:29 PM
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Possibly it's that the places I meet these girls self-select for the BPD type. I'll give you that. But I can categorically assure you that I've met dozens and dozens of them over the years, and their personalities and sexualities are virtually interchangeable.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/21 05:25 PM
2

Well. These girls don't really have much of a personality outside of liking anime, cosplay, alternative j-fashion etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/21 05:24 PM
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Uh no. This is a post I've wanted to make for a while because I've observed a connection between promiscuity and an obsession with anime among nerdy girls.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/21 05:24 PM
2

We're simply talking past each other at this point. If your moral code is that whatever gratifies you is inherently good, then we're not going to see eye to eye.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/21 05:22 PM
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I'm talking primarily about girls who are very obsessively into anime. Who "ironically" talk about hentai on social media and "ironically" make ahegao faces. Does this make more sense?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/21 05:19 PM
1

I think we're in some sort of very rough alignment/agreement here, but my experience has been that the BPD types are more common than the ASD types. Much more common. I'll completely agree that different nerdy hobbies entail different personality types. So you're more likely to meet awkward ASD girls in tabletop gaming, but far more likely to encounter BPD ones in anime fandoms. Does that make sense?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/21 05:16 PM
-1

Wait, you're one of those girls? Looks like I was right again.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/21 05:15 PM
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Those are the women I've actually met from online sites and slept with. There are others on Tinder etc. And my sample size isn't the women I've slept with, it's the women I've interacted with in any intimate way, which is a much larger pool.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/21 05:14 PM
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Refer to the OP. It is explained there.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/21 05:12 PM
2

I think you're being really disingenuous if you claim you're ignorant of the sort of subculture stereotype I'm referring to, NarniaFox. If you're active in these scenes you know exactly what I mean.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/21 05:12 PM
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I've already explained this is my anecdotal experience from a lifetime spent online.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/21 05:11 PM
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I'd also like to add: Examine the women who post on PPD itself. Very, very few women who post here have low n counts, most have high ones, from my engagement with the userbase of this board. There's also (obviously) a big intersection between the sorts of girls who post on PPD and nerdy girls in general.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/21 05:11 PM
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No it doesn't. You have absolutely no experience of weeby girls if you think they're more likely to be virgins. They make club girls look chaste.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/21 05:08 PM
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So what moral code do you follow if the above behavior isn't immoral?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/21 05:07 PM
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You're confusing yourself here. I'm not saying they're all paid porn girls on OF or whatever. I'm saying they are more sexually immoral, that encompasses a wide range of behavior: More likely to be promiscuous, more likely to have disgusting sexual fantasies, more likely to send nudes, more likely to hook up etc. Women do not need to be good looking to do any of the above.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/21 05:06 PM
1

Anime is an interesting one, because it appeals to these girls by presenting them with a world where they can be ecchi and perverted in a sort of "clumsy" way, and the only consequences are that guys get a nosebleed. It leads me on to another point, which is that a lot of nerdy girls, weeby girls, PPD girls are actually very childlike. They're in a state of arrested development. They live in a simulacrum, where mutated/corrupted symbols of sexuality, like the ecchi nosebleed, are more real than …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/21 05:04 PM
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I've already said their low self esteem is a reason for their hypersexuality.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/21 04:59 PM
1

Not sure.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/21 04:59 PM
1

I agree with all of that except for the yaoi. Fujoshi types generally do fit the mold of the awkward virginal nerdy girl. And their (nerdy girls in general) sexual fetishes are about extreme forms of violence and degradation, not feminization.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/21 04:48 PM
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So in total I've met up and had sex with four. But over the years I must have chatted to and received nudes from dozens. These girls are so cookie cutter I could literally list off their favourite anime, their fetishes, their other interests, the websites they browse etc right now.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/21 04:46 PM
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I would argue you're the exception to the rule. I'd also say watching the odd anime probably isn't the sort of girl I'm talking about. Think girls who have weird obsession with edgy versions of hello kitty in their pfp
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/21 04:43 PM
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Like I said, I know women like you. I don't believe what you say in public settings because I've seen what women like you say in more intimate settings.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/21 04:40 PM
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You know there's always a way out of this sort of behaviour right? You recognise it is immoral. That's the first step. I know exactly the sort of person you are referring to in terms of j-fashion and the like.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/21 04:36 PM
0

This is anecdotal. There is no available data on the promiscuity of nerdy women.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/21 04:35 PM
1

Lol. I'm from Greece. Btw your country is the most beautiful in South America. I love Argentina. You are basically like this big nation of Spanish speaking Italians in my mind.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/21 04:30 PM
1

I'm sorry. I don't believe you are happy deep down. That's all I can say.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/21 04:28 PM
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I fully and completely acknowledge it's purely anecdotal. But I've wasted a lifetime of my own online, hooked up with women I met online etc and seen how that demographic has changed. I'm sure you can appreciate how difficult it would be to obtain data for a niche group like this. As another anecdote. I've noticed nerdy girls on tinder are far more likely to talk about polyamory and far quicker in sending nudes.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/21 04:27 PM
1

Where are you from? It sounds similar to my country, although American and British girls are known as slutty there. Most other Europeans are fine.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/21 04:25 PM
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Trust me. It has more trauma than you realize if she treats sex cheaply. It's like a form of self harm.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/21 04:24 PM
1

So why are anglosphere women so promiscuous?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/21 04:07 PM
1

Do you think we have a better understanding of human sexuality? You guys tell young girls that de facto prostitution is a "career choice" for goodness sake.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/21 03:46 PM
1

That's an oversimplification. I advise you to read the King's Three Faces. Liberalism is not an infallible theology. It has taught a lot of dangerous and stupid ideas and it's a matter of fact women in more liberal societies are far less clued up on men's baser nature and deceit than women in conservative societies are. I grew up in one after all.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/21 03:41 PM
1

You make me sad.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/21 03:35 PM
2

I don't think you can attribute the naïvety to the puritans. Puritan fathers would have, quite literally, put the fear of God into their daughters about how deceitful and duplicitous men can be when it comes to wanting to get sex. No, this is a symptom of liberalism's opposition to notions of biological "essentialism". Viewing men and women as essentially the same asides from some minor cosmetic differences. So it makes sense you are naïve about how men can manipulate you into sex because you pr…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/21 03:34 PM
1

Did you get anything out of it, other than feelings of shame and being used? Exactly.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/21 03:03 PM
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People don't like marriage, men or women, because the concept of a public commitment of exclusivity to each other means their greedy sexual indulgences can no longer be rationalized away so easily. They fear commitment because they love excess. Men need to be men and grow up, and women need to stop loving the same sterile, promiscuous, ships-in-the-night sex they ostensibly claim they hate (while continuously indulging in it).
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/21 03:02 PM
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I guess what I find weird about American and Anglo women is that you're simultaneously very vocal about your liberation, but you're also incredibly naïve about men compared to say, Arab women, Greek women, Russian women etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/21 02:53 PM
1

I'm sorry that happened to you. Nobody deserves that. Try to have a good relationship with both your parents though.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/21 02:52 PM
1

So why sleep around so easily in the first place? Help me understand.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/21 02:47 PM
1

I am Southern European.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/21 02:40 PM
2

I agree. It doesn't make a woman less desirable as a sexual partner, but for marriage it makes her less desirable. I think women need to just learn to exercise self control sexually.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/21 02:07 PM
1

So why is self control so difficult for you, or was difficult?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/21 02:05 PM
3

I'm sorry. But it's difficult to accept a woman if she has had so many partners before you.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/21 01:56 PM
1

I remember reading that Northwestern European women lack some specific type of estrogen that kicks in to dial back lust. Essentially their sexuality is very similar to men's: whereas other groups of women have more self control over who they fuck and are able to see, for example, that sleeping with a random chad at a bar isn't a good idea even if it gives them tingles.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/21 01:32 PM
1

Do you think there may be a biological component?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/21 01:24 PM
2

I'm glad you understand.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/21 01:19 PM
1

Interesting. Why do you think it is that there is a reputation of Northwestern European descent women being more morally and sexually loose? I'm genuinely curious.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/21 01:11 PM
1

I genuinely find it fascinating how nerdy, internet girls are far more likely to have higher n counts than stacies. I should write something about this.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/21 12:41 PM
0

Are you married now?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/21 12:05 PM
1

I mean you shouldn't have been doing it before, with the greatest of respect.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/21 12:05 PM
1

Anglos aren't a race.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/21 11:28 AM
-2

You don't wish you lost yours to someone you actually love?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/21 11:25 AM
2

You shouldn't be sleeping around.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/21 11:20 AM
1

Did your dad try to help?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/21 11:04 AM
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Most men these days have a Madonna Whore dichotomy to an extreme so yes. They'd both be turned off but also find her admirable. These sorts of girls can't compete with hypersexual ones.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/21 08:27 AM
1

What happened to her?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/21 08:26 AM
2

Male and female nature needs cultivation. There is a proper way for us to live in well ordered human societies with others.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/21 08:25 AM
3

It's weird how women associate "personal growth" with promiscuity. Even when they talk about "taking some time out to grow as a person" or going traveling to see new things and grow, ultimately all its about is sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/21 08:22 AM
2

I suppose you could try to live morally and avoid casual sex for his sake still?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/21 08:19 AM
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It not being special doesn't necessarily mean it was traumatic. From my understanding you've had a high number of partners so it doesn't really feel important in the grand scheme of things. Sex is very cheap to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/21 08:18 AM
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You don't regret how you lost yours?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/21 02:48 AM
2

Domestic violence was not normal in the past.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/21 02:28 AM
1

Domestic violence was literally never considered "normal". Another feminist lie.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/21 02:23 AM
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No. I'm pro China though :)
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/21 01:14 AM
2

An incredibly asinine statement. People can still criticize government policy in authoritarian countries, by and large, or even broader theoretical frameworks provided they don't undermine concepts like one party rule. Liberalism doesn't need to do this because westerners are brainwashed and believe all alternatives to liberalism are retrograde and inferior and therefore not even worth discussing.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/21 01:10 AM
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You're just proving my point. I hope you can find some peace in your life. Nerdy girls are awful.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/21 12:55 AM
2

I don't disagree with any of this really. But you need to understand the solution doesn't lie in "conservatism" or "MAGA" or whatever, but a complete and wholesale rejection of the philosophy that has governed the western world for two centuries now: liberalism.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/21 12:53 AM
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Well yeah, the ultimate solution involves the destruction of liberal democracy as a governing philosophy. So I'm even more radical in that approach. But in the here and now we need to encourage more emotionally intimate parenting.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/21 12:52 AM
1

I'm not sure the problem is helicopter parenting. I hear a lot of it, but I see far more emotionally absent parenting than helicopter parenting - at least of teens. The conspiracy theorist in me believes the media push the helicopter parent meme as something negative so that they can encourage more alienation.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/21 12:50 AM
5

Did you manage to maintain a low partner count at least?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/21 12:49 AM
4

that parents (fathers) will cheer on their son for "scoring" while they threaten their daughters boyfriends with violence. That's a 1950s and beyond stereotype specific to American culture. If you sullied a woman you weren't married to in a medieval European village, your best case scenario would be you'd get a thorough beating from her brothers, worst case you'd be de facto exiled in disgrace. Read Silas Marner, even noblemen didn't have the right to go around dicking down women as they pleased…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/21 12:32 AM
3

Why can't you just respect and love your father when he puts a roof over your head and keeps you safe? No other man is ever going to love you without the expectation of sex. Think about that for a moment.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/21 12:02 AM
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I addressed this in my OP. The girls I have dated with or slept with who had this sort of dynamic with their fathers weren't the children of single mothers. They were the children of successful, upper middle class families with a present father and mother.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/21 11:49 PM
1

Fair enough. I think men should know it by default though.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/21 11:48 PM
1

Emotional incest is a stupid term. And yes, the father is the more culpable party here, but surely you can understand why it's difficult for him to engage if his daughter considers him embarrassing versus spending time with her friends or boys. You were like that at this age, I'm sure.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/21 11:47 PM
2

Do you think it's worth teaching daughters DIY?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/21 11:38 PM
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I don't have children, but you're not seeing things from a father's perspective. He thinks: "She doesn't want to talk to me because she probably thinks I'm uncool." "Maybe I should ask her out to do something together. But she's probably embarrassed to be seen with me, especially if she'd rather be with her friends." "She might talk about boys and romance, and that would make me really uncomfortable." "I doubt she'd want to come to the hardware store anyway, so I won't ask her to come." Have a l…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/21 11:30 PM
1

It helps if women actually, you know, articulate what a "good father" is and what he should do. Most of you sulk in your rooms while your clueless fathers just sit downstairs watching the TV. Tell men what you think we're doing wrong. Tell fathers to be what makes a good dad.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/21 11:24 PM
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The problem is that it's framed from a perspective of personal freedom Well yes, and it's completely coherent and internally logical within the framework of liberalism to justify female (and male) promiscuity provided it doesn't violate Locke's harm principle. That's the problem. Liberalism is a really bad, parasitical ethical and political system that creates really shitty, individualistic, dysfunctional societies. I don't need to create a hand wave with reference to liberalism because I reject…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/21 11:22 PM
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>while sons got to shoot out their underaged seed willy nilly As I have explained in other posts, this is an ahistorical take on male promiscuity. Male promiscuity was punished far more in the past than it is today, with far more severe consequences.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/21 11:20 PM
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Plenty of men are taking a stand against porn too, but that's not convenient for your narrative. Plenty of women supporting it as well - just head on over to Twitter and make an incendiary comment talking about how awful porn is. Over half of the people criticizing you will be "sex workers" and women who think porn is cool. American culture is to blame here. Not "men".
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/21 11:18 PM
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You need to distinguish between the masses and the elite. The masses never created third wave feminism. It wasn't some sort of elaborate decades long conceit by men, although some men (dysfunctional attractive ones) certainly latched on and exploited an already corrupt thing for its own ends. The broad masses of any nation want a culture where their daughter won't be violated and used. Daughters are special things that need to be protected.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/21 11:17 PM
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I think you're partly right. Shared environments are more important, and I'd say the biggest shared environment of all is the internet and entertainment as a whole. Music plays an enormous role in "raising" children, and American popular music encourages or normalizes drug use, promiscuity and all sorts of other social ills. Parents can still help insulate though. A good girl will think "this guy is nothing compared to my dad, he's not a real man at all".
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/21 11:15 PM
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Slut shaming is just one part of the solution. Deep emotional bonds and respect for a strong father will often mean you never have to even employ slut shaming as a mechanism.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/21 10:49 PM
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There's nothing wrong with exercising control over your daughter's sexuality, it's a dangerous impulsive aspect of her instinct she doesn't fully understand that can get her scarred for life, especially if the most important event of her life (losing her virginity) is traumatic.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/21 10:48 PM
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This is partly women's fault too. Many fathers feel their daughters don't love them.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/21 10:46 PM
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Women who were raised by single mothers have significantly higher partner counts.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/21 10:45 PM
4

I think criticism of women's standards is more observational and analytical. There's no interest in changing their standards.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/21 09:33 AM
1

Possibly. That might also be that women, particularly single mother types, are selecting violent men as per sexual selection. Violent men are very attractive to women.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/21 02:02 PM
1

I mean most women feel that way at least intermittently. With the greatest of respect, it's difficult for you to go without dick for extended period. There's a sense women are incomplete without dick. Quite literally given your physiology.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/21 01:00 PM
1

Just anecdotally I've heard women say stuff like "I haven't had dick for months. I really need it."
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/21 12:52 PM
2

I'm not sure that's entirely true.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/21 12:28 PM
0

I'm not so sure. Women seem to find it difficult to go without sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/21 12:01 PM
15

The bar is low for all standards other than looks. We've been through this a hundred times. The pothead bum who cheated on her ten times? He was good looking. That was the only standard she was interested in.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/21 11:57 AM
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I didn't say anything about feminism.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/21 12:34 AM
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All everyone wants is sex, by and large. Anglosphere women are just ersatz men now. You even gleefully talk about how much you like porn to win cool girl points.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/21 12:19 AM
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I've never claimed women lie about it. That's overstated. Most women are honest in my experience about partner count (if not about their true desires). Just chalk up my question to curiosity.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/21 12:14 AM
1

You don't see any Chinese or Japanese women joining ISIS for men they met online.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/21 12:08 AM
1

Just watched some documentary about an ISIS wife from Germany. Had a loving father and still treated him like shit when she got back.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/21 11:52 PM
0

If you can't control your sex drive, especially as a woman whose impulses are biologically less extreme, then you're an animal. Simple as.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/21 11:49 PM
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It signals desperation. It's one of the few points where I think red pillers are on the money. Only chad is allowed to show deep emotional intimacy.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/21 11:46 PM
1

If every single society on the planet, both historical and contemporary, is or has been sexually repressive, then your definition of the term sexually repressive is a priori useless as a way of describing particular nations, periods, cultures, races etc. How many sexual partners have you had?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/21 11:40 PM
1

So why aren't you married?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/21 11:15 PM
1

It's not a binary thing. It's about how they're distributed and where they sit on someone's moral hierarchy. Men can also be altruistic but altruism per se is less masculine and more feminine.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/21 10:35 PM
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Kindness, gentleness, consideration for others, empathy, altruism, maternal instinct and by that I mean a deep care and concern for children in general. As a bit of an example of traits like these, I saw a woman stop her car the other day on a busy road and move an injured bird out of the way. Before moving on. These things make a woman more beautiful than she is. There's nothing more unpleasant than a woman who is course, malicious without cause, rude to others etc. Nothing makes my dick shrink…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/21 10:12 PM
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No. But if you said there's a lot of pain and suffering in a particular country, I'd expect you to have some sort of macro reference frame with other countries.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/21 08:34 PM
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White women really need to stop this passive aggressive hatred of their fathers.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/21 06:21 PM
1

So compared to your arbitrary standard. Not anything in the real world?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/21 05:39 PM
1

Pretty sex repressive compared to where and when exactly? Provide a frame of reference.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/21 03:56 PM
1

Your argument hinges on a false premise. America is a deeply sexually libertine culture, not a puritan one.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/21 02:36 PM
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Her entire argument is based on a false premise. America is not a puritan society. It is the most sexually libertine culture on earth.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/21 12:04 PM
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Yes. I don't disagree with you at all. I think we may me misunderstanding one another. Slut culture is an arms race, there is the sense, among women, that any woman who isn't prepared to join in, offer up sex, dress in certain ways, say they're ok with certain sex acts etc will simply be left behind without male interest. And the sobering fact is, there's some truth to this. A lot of adult female virgins feel shame for their virginity for example. Re FDS: FDS looks good on paper in terms of thei…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/21 01:52 AM
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Yeah. I have a genuine sympathy for the women who had to weather the 1990s in Russia and FSU in general. The sort of culture it has created can be cruel and unfeeling, and I've noticed Russian women have this sort of sadistic streak, where they'll turn on a dime and start belittling you with a smile on their face if they're jealous or feel you aren't giving them sufficient attention, but there's a rough hewed honesty to them too. Western slutty is just women in self destruct mode who believe the…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/21 01:43 AM
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Nothing, no money, compares to a woman's selfless love, affection, care, sexual subservience. Even the incidental details like her falling asleep on your chest and how she tiredly smiles at you in the morning when she wakes up, all groggy. How she thinks she's ugly without makeup when she clearly isn't. How you have to reassure her about these things in a paternal way. The way she rewards your affection in turn. The smell of her hair. The little things she does for you because she likes seeing y…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/21 01:37 AM

I'm not necessarily disagreeing here, but there are far too many middle class white women in this day and age who are adopting the whole "financially supporting a good looking but hopelessly inept boyfriend" thing. Before this it was more of a "ghetto" thing to do so, so it's a shame the rot has spread that far. It's also just personally irritating as a man who thinks a big part of masculinity should be about your general competencies: fixing and installing things around the house, developing a …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/21 01:30 AM

I have never met a single drug addict who lacked for female companionship. Not one. If anything drug addiction increases your chances of access to women if you're average or below average in looks.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/21 01:23 AM

I don't think you have a coherent ethical and moral framework for understanding harm beyond basic, low information stuff like Locke's harm principle. So I'll leave that argument aside. The issue is precisely that they are not making a lot of money, nor will they ever make a lot of money. Their lack of future orientation, their laziness, inability to understand distribution curves of revenue on such platforms, their stupidity at being duped by tiktok videos showing a small amount of cash (that se…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/21 01:06 AM
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Eastern slutty: I'm mercenary as fuck and will do anything possible to procure resources. Even using sex tactically. Western slutty: Carrie Bradshaw is my spirit animal and it's a feminist imperative to sleep with any chad who swipes right on me, even if he has been unemployed for eleven years.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/21 12:57 AM

Not necessarily. Most good looking men I know are people from an upper middle class background: osteopathic surgeons, lawyers, accountants etc. These men are not interested in wild and libidinal promiscuous sex of the sort that is referred to on here. They tend to have a string of very good looking girlfriends and then settle down with one. Some may cheat, and some may play the field a bit, but you're conflating two fundamentally different types of highly attractive men. 1) Professionals who cam…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/21 12:51 AM
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My experience is anglosphere women have a sexual thing for abusive men far more than Slavic women do. Most of the misunderstandings about EE comes from the false equivalence of Eastern Slutty and Western Slutty.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/21 12:39 AM
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Fair enough, respect your consistency if it applies to all the edge master Joe Rogan drugs too. But most people who bitch about smokers these days, most younger people anyway, are either ambivalent about or tolerant of people smoking weed.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/21 12:32 AM
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Erm. What bullshit?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/21 09:50 PM
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You simply don't understand how depressing it is to see girls with fathers who never interacted with them past the age of 13 and the damage it does. They need to be kept at home and protected.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/21 08:24 PM
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I don't think it's as prominent in men as say, extreme forms of promiscuity and bizarre sexual fetishes are among women because of their dads absence either physically or in terms of emotion.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/21 07:23 PM
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Yeah. I don't want to sound like an asshole. I'll welcome anyone, but it must be difficult as a parent. Especially with how bad racial tensions and conflict are becoming. It's sad.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/21 07:10 PM
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I just want daughters because I've met so many women who have terrible daddy issues and I want to raise girls right and make them know they have a father who sets boundaries but will always love them.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/21 03:48 PM
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It's more of an "Anglosphere vs. Continental Europe" thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/21 03:33 PM
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I feel you. But I'm 32 now. I kind of wish I had a couple of illegitimate daughters out there.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/21 03:30 PM
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To be honest I think a lot of men would be happy with that. I've had casual sex but I'd prefer good sex in a marriage. Just as many women as men enjoy the hook up culture these days though, unfortunately.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/21 02:56 PM
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"Never sleep with a man you couldn't see yourself marrying" is something an old school teacher told my female classmates.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/21 02:18 PM
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Interesting stuff.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/21 12:34 PM
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The better looking guy with half your equity is still going to be the one the girl you want desires m8
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/21 12:32 PM
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Hello! Yeah. Our left can be old school left, which truthfully I don't mind. We don't have anything against immigration but not on the scale it is currently occuring, which makes it impossible to perform quality control. I guess we, like Italians, have quite a strong sense of ethnic exclusivity as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/21 12:26 PM
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Yeah bro if you follow all of these really elaborate plans then you can date an East European girl. But what's the point? Why are Americans so obsessed with trying to gamify the process of getting someone you'll probably only use for sex anyway? Places like Poland aren't poor deprived shitholes anymore in any event. Poland's major towns make yours look like dumps.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/21 12:24 PM
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Why do you think we are politically complicated?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/21 12:13 PM
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Alcohol use among Russians has declined continuously for about twenty years. Young Russians in the bigger cities these days aren't going around drinking ten bottles of vodka unless it's scarlet sails and you're in Petersburg or something. And even then.... Binge drinking in Britain is anecdotally far worse.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/21 12:12 PM
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instantly wealthy This isn't the 1990s anymore. No one in Warsaw, SPB, Moscow etc is going to give two damns that you have a slightly higher salary. Eastern Europe is good, but for other reasons (women are less fixated on looks).
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/21 12:10 PM
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With the greatest of respect, I'm from Southern Europe and those men essentially just "pump and dump" black women because they see them as easy. Especially single black female tourists. I don't mean to be rude, I just want to forewarn you so you can go equipped with the knowledge to protect yourself. For sure there are some Italian guys who would be comfortable with marrying a black woman though, but they'd be harder to find and probably wouldn't be propositioning you on the streets.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/21 12:08 PM
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Too many k-dramas.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/21 12:05 PM
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Southern Europe, the Balkans, Central Europe are all good. Russia was probably my favourite place to date. Women generally don't put out before dating for at least a couple of months (obviously there are exceptions) and the concept of having to have a "talk about whether we're exclusive" would be unthinkable to most Russian women and men. Women are also highly educated and more likely to have STEM degrees in my experience, especially in the Baltic countries. Good sense of group identity, without…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/21 12:04 PM
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If you look down your nose at smoking cigarettes but are ok with smoking weed then I don't know what's wrong with you. Americans just follow their pop culture one hundred percent I guess
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/21 12:00 PM
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This is comparing educational attainment in a broad sense, e.g. has a degree. It doesn't correlate to what people say when they talk about hypergamy, which is about looks. I*cels have been saying money and education isn't really a big advantage in the dating market for a long time, for example, and that looks trumps money most times unless the man is obscenely wealthy. If anything this study confirms that.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/21 11:56 AM
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I think there's a lot of anecdotal evidence for this simply from our collective recollection of college and school. The top guys weren't exactly consensually shared, in any conscious way, but serial monogamy essentially meant they'd work their way through multiple women. In a weird way a more explicit form of polygamy, with men monopolizing women openly, would probably lead to women being more sober about their prospects with chad. The limited bargaining power of an average women vis a vis chad …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/21 02:31 AM

What do they do that is bad? I know what constitutes a bad father in my book, just curious about yours
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/21 03:44 PM

Why?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/21 03:29 PM

Yes of course, tattooed drug dealers are known for their excellent parenting skills and empathy. And iq is just a correlate of g, which is a general intelligence factor and for which we do known is positively associated with any cognitive task.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/21 03:07 PM

Respect your father. It all starts there.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/21 03:05 PM

You shouldn't be fucking them either. Stupid women are a turn off to me and always have been.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/21 02:47 PM

It may even be the opposite. Sexual selection for high dimorphism is linked to the extinction of species
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/21 02:46 PM

I broadly agree but you need to give concrete examples. For example, if women have a responsibility to pick the best genes, why do they select for socially dysfunctional, highly attractive men with ornamental physical traits rather than high IQ men whose combined brainpower can unlock transcendent technology eventually.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/21 02:29 PM
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I don't want 50/50. I will be the breadwinner financially.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/21 11:40 PM
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Most people on this sub don't understand feminism. They think feminism is hairy legged women who want to ban porn for example when that breed haven't had significant political influence, if they ever did, for decades. Feminism is just contemporary Sodom and Gomorrah worship, cheap coca cola orgasm chasing like anything else in this world of clowns.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/21 07:39 PM
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You would unironically be doing everyone here a favour sir.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/21 05:30 PM
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It's best to avoid that sort of reflex arousal. It's what leads to flings and chadwidowing.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/21 05:29 PM
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Full Butlerian Jihad. Destroy the thinking machines. Luddites did nothing wrong. Etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/21 04:56 PM
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Getting high is a coping mechanism and won't lead anywhere good.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/21 04:53 PM
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Postmodern is a meaningless buzzword. Feminism is just a symptom of a wider problem that goes back centuries (liberal theory). For example, MRAs bitch about women having the vote but still think universal suffrage for men is a good idea. This is laughable, shallow, low information and low IQ way of thinking.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/21 04:51 PM
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I've worked a pretty diverse range from gardener to steward. I'm an accountant now though. I agree that a lot of the kvetching often comes from Matt Forney types who need to put their money where their mouth is when it comes to this stuff. The reality is women did hard labor in pre modern times. A peasant's wife didn't just sit around on her ass. But I feel like construction is just -so- labor intensive and it requires a lot more physical strength than laymen who think it's all mechanized would …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/21 02:31 PM
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The quote you posted from wiki isn't at odds with what I said. There has always been this idea, this sort of undercurrent that women are somehow more liable to be sexually corrupt and intrinsically lustful than men. If that makes sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/21 12:30 PM
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I'm not sure you understand my point my girl. I'm not even really disagreeing with you.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/21 12:18 PM
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It's actually not true that they didn't acknowledge it was sexual frustration. Remember there's always been this explicit or undercurrent idea women are more sexually indulgent than men, or feel lust more acutely.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/21 11:59 AM
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I understand. But I feel like delayed pregnancy can also cause hysteria in some women.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/21 11:45 AM
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Something like that. These people were always posturing LARPers who imagined themselves as edgy Tyler Durden figures holding a mirror up to society. Joaquin Phoenix's Joker is actually quite accurate in depicting reality as so corrupt and adept at making corrupted symbols of counter culture that the only possible way someone can stand against it consistently is by being a giant schizo.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/21 10:09 AM
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Your uterus attacks itself?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/21 10:06 AM
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I'm saying that's how people feel. It's not necessarily a value judgment. And fertility is important.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/21 10:06 AM
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I feel like men resent the intrusion of women into traditionally men's spaces and women resent the intrusion of men into traditionally women's spaces. Both are right. Both sexes need their own spaces. As for construction work it's dangerous and can damage your fertility as a woman. So it's not a good idea.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/21 09:31 AM
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I remember Roissy. There was always something that put me off about him if I'm being honest. The try hard prose by LARPing men imagining themselves stalking the ruins of western civilization alone, with head held high, sort of began with him. Turns out he was such some DC mid level finance bureaucrat.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/21 08:31 AM

You shouldn't be having casual sex in the first place though. That's kind of the take away from this. I explain in another post how OLD has obfuscated the distinction between what is seen as casual and what is seen as serious by placing it all in some weird, ephemeral digital world where it's normal to send nudes and be sexual from the get go. The end result is that where women would have once been able to understand a clear distinction between what they want from a serious LTR, the very transie…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/21 04:10 PM
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You're an exception to the rule in that case. I've mixed in those circles in the past and they make the clubbing demographic look chaste.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/21 12:54 PM
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Sure. Not everyone from such a background goes into these subcultures, but most nerdy women do have daddy issues and are highly promiscuous and the like.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/21 12:31 PM
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Daddy issues = Abusive or absent (literally or emotionally) father. Women who have nerdy interests tend to have issues with their father. I'm not sure why, it's something I'm still trying to figure out.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/21 12:17 PM
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I'm agreeing with you. Digital culture has no effect on the human brain. Except when the conclusions align with a liberal world view. Then it does.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/21 11:45 AM
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I just dislike nerdy women who are into stuff like anime and gaming. I've never met one who didn't have extreme daddy issues and extreme "kinks".
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/21 11:36 AM
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Refer to my earlier post. Male lawyers, primarily of an Irish Catholic background, were central to the fight against porn. Many feminists were instrumental in the fight to get it classified as "freedom of speech/expression". You have no idea how many otherwise fairly innocent men are constantly asked by girlfriends and hookups to beat them and abuse them during sex. Really, no idea. That or you're lying.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/21 11:31 AM
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Yeah bro. Bombarding your synapses with digitally simulated sexual gratification from the age of 11 definitely doesn't have any other effects. Just like weed makes you smarter the more you smoke it.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/21 11:13 AM
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Vile.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/21 11:12 AM
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Yeah. It's annoying because it's presented as an exclusively male problem by certain women who like to complain about it, in total ignorance to the increasing number of women who are addicted and the number of men who are actually taking a stand and rejecting porn-style sexuality. I've been with women who enjoy not just your good old fashioned rough sex over the kitchen counter but levels of violent and cruel degradation that obviously isn't coming from a place of good self esteem or general men…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/21 11:10 AM
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Hypergamy these days generally refers more seeking to marry up in terms of looks. I'd agree that hypergamous behaviour with a view to acquiring more resources is logically sound if you assume male polygamy.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/21 03:41 PM
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You're missing the basic point. You shouldn't be fucking meth heads in the first place. If I as a man can control my libidinal urges, so should you. And honestly this weird American culture thing of thinking drug addicts are hot is just... I don't get it. At all. It's a horrible culture. Drugs are not cool, people who use them aren't cool, this is just the simulated reality your TV and media have brainwashed you with.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/21 03:30 PM
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Just shower theory. A powerful theory.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/21 02:44 PM
1

What are your thoughts on Mark Twain, out of interest?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/21 02:43 PM
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You need to calm down.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/21 02:41 PM
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Look, you said you were expected to do things for FWBs like give them rides and money. That's your prerogative. This thread is aimed at people like you. You could literally cut these foul men out of your life tomorrow if you wanted to, as could other women, and let them either improve themselves or wither away and die in their 40s. Exercise some sexual self control for once. I keep hearing from FDS how you don't need men, how men are terrible in bed etc. If that's the case then stop rewarding te…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/21 02:17 PM
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I agree, but the issue is that OLD now accounts for plurality of all new "relationships" (and I use that term loosely for a reason). I've alluded to this problem before, but whereas before we had a certain hard-line distinction between what people consciously understood as long term and short term relationships, and what preferences they had for both, nowadays that line has become incrementally more blurred precisely because OLD encourages dysfunctional short term preferences from both parties e…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/21 10:51 AM
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It's fundamentally stupid because as I said, it just means their unconscious mind builds up this idea that an attractive man couldn't possibly be abusive or misogynistic. Great way to lower one's guard....
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/21 10:19 AM
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Not sure what relevance this had to what I posted. If you're dating men who just play video games all day and you're having to give them money and rides, then your standards in men are simply low in every area other than looks. I'm sure there are functional, single men with good jobs you could date, but they're probably not covered in tattoos and not as good looking.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/21 08:11 AM
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I agree with you for the most part. I don't see "dating" as a viable form of pairbonding and reproducing for a society though, for these same reasons. I don't think theses experience constitute some sort of whimsical "learning experience". That's a coping mechanism women express to rationalize away the understandable trauma this system of "dating" has created. It is an assembly line for broken, unhappy people whose best years are behind them and who struggle to express genuine love with the pers…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/21 12:36 AM
0

I really need to read Jung, I'm fascinated by the concept of racial memory.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/21 12:32 AM
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The obsession among many women with the most violent, depraved, psychopathic men imaginable (think Richard Ramirez) genuinely makes me wonder whether Freud gets too harsh a rap re: his theories of sexual repression. My take is that women have a natural desire to be with an assertive man, and that "rough" sex is often a cathartic manifestation of this dynamic (please note by "rough" I do not mean "degrading" - that is low-information, low-spiritual rank, low IQ stuff). More to the point, since ma…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/21 12:25 AM
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Low-level: Physical attraction, character be damned (Eros alone) High-level: Physical attraction, character, ethics, demonstrations of virtue, spiritual factors (Eros, Agape, Philia etc.) Best way to parse attraction in the modern world is to imagine low-level people as people who could never get past the first stage initiation of a gnostic/neoplatonist sect (they were ordered into a strict hierarchy of increasingly esoteric levels of understanding). These people lead meaningless lives and, by b…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/21 12:13 AM
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You are fundamentally misunderstanding stoicism and applying a pejorative, hoi polloi definition to it. Stoicism is not about "bottling up your feelings until you explode", quite the opposite: it is essentially western nekkhamma without the Buddha.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/21 12:03 AM
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They were protecting their people and women from other men yes, just as the sun rises in the East and sets in the West. This principle that your survival as an individual is in no small part dependent on the adaptive fitness of the group you belong to has been there forever. One of the reasons American and broader British/Anglosphere society seems so corrupt to me, as an outsider looking in, is because there is no concept of group identity anymore.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/21 12:00 AM
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You parsed this correctly. Beyond ensuring physical health and vitality, for which exercise and good diet and clean living is necessary, I'm not really concerned with Fisherian-Runaway type features to signify "masculinity". What I'm concerned above all else with is mental toughness and resilience. The men of the Wehrmacht in the Stalingrad pocket, or the men at Borodino (Russian and French) were certainly not as muscular as today's gym hobbyists, but they certainly were mentally tougher by many…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/21 11:53 PM
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There is nothing wrong with stoicism.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/21 11:49 PM
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Yes. TRP stuff is taking an original concept (martial prowess) and understanding it only in its corrupted and simulated forms. As I said in another post, I can't recommend Baudrillard enough for understanding just about everything media induced in our modern world. Think about it in these terms. Ancient/Medieval world has a masculine warrior ideal (aggression on behalf of tribe/family and emphasizing self-sacrifice/duty) Ancients celebrate this in their literature and the ideal becomes a "symbol…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/21 11:43 PM
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Thank you, and interesting. I always assumed Mexican/White mixes looked white passing. I'm from Southern Europe originally and I find I can blend in quite easily anywhere there's a white majority.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/21 11:37 PM
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I live in an Anglosphere country, but I'm not from here originally and I've lived all over the world. It wouldn't surprise me if DT traits were universally appealing, but I can assure you in other parts of Europe and Asia women just aren't as naive as they are here. Fundamentally what drives a lot of this dysfunctional female behavior is simple naivety. They live in a simulated reality, to borrow from Baudrillard. Doing drugs, dealing drugs, being involved in crime etc, these things are just a s…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/21 11:36 PM
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Wouldn't disagree.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/21 11:02 PM
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I'd argue that for functional attractive men, the experience is worse. I'm basing this off of attractive men I know who are MDs, chemical engineers etc and seemingly "have the full suite" of desirable traits. Most of these men genuinely are not and were never interested in sleeping around with dozens of women. That's a trait of dysfunctional attractive men. So even for those functional, high impulse control men, it makes things unmanageable because their chances of securing a woman who hasn't sl…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/21 10:35 PM
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Very interesting stuff. I'm not interested in MRA activism or whatever, because it just strikes me as the obverse of feminism. But I'd like for us to establish our own standards for masculinity that aren't just sexual motifs for women's enjoyment like big muscles and tattoos and aggression. Likewise, women can have their own standards for femininity that aren't just tiny dresses, cleavage etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/21 10:32 PM
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If virgin shaming is ok, then whore shaming should be too. Sleeping around is far more destructive to oneself and to the wider society than being a virgin is.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/21 08:59 PM
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he’s around mentally ill women https://weareagenda.org/womens-mental-health-key-facts
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/21 08:40 PM
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The Red Pill is focused around self-improvement and the idea that "confidence" is a sort of secret ingredient that can help a 3/10 to sleep with 10/10s. The people who are fixated on this sort of data are blackpillers.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/21 08:39 PM
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I am really surprised people still believe in the "confidence" meme. I wonder if there are people who still believe in "PUA", guess there's a fool born every minute eh? Jokes aside, it's looks. It was always looks. A hideously grotesque 5'3 man being confident to the extent required to entrap women in the sorts of situations I described would be arrested in fairly short order.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/21 08:36 PM
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It's a bulletin board, it's a topic/hypothesis meant to incite discussion.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/21 08:36 PM
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Sure. My mistake. Not familiar with Lincoln or his writings.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/21 08:32 PM
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It's mostly women driving the whole sex-as-degradation fetish in my experience, not men. Most men would be happy with rough but normal sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/21 08:31 PM
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Just be a 6'4 ripped professional wrestler theory.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/21 08:29 PM
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It's the distinction between what men define as masculinity/"a real man" and what women define as masculinity/"a real man". Men tended to have a well-rounded ideal of what constitutes a good man. If you read ethical philosophers like Epictetus, a lot of this was focused on concepts like virtue ethics. A real man was something more than just a sexually desirable man: he was a leader to other men around him, dependable, mentally resilient etc. I think to a woman, a "real man" is essentially just a…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/21 08:28 PM
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Something that always irritated me about this is the fact it's the attractive yet dysfunctional men who are responsible for most of this "he gave me HPV/he slept with my friends/he never got a job" behavior, but it's average and unattractive men who pay the bills. If you read content on other, unnamed femosphere subreddits, when they picture a "bad man" responsible for this sort of behavior it's always some balding, ugly, out of shape mess. It's more fool them because it just means they let thei…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/21 08:21 PM
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I acknowledge it's something of a cope.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/21 08:08 PM
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The canned argument would be that you're coercing someone to do something that cause fundamental harm, as per Locke's harm principle, rather than something that is part of some implicit "social contract" that binds society together or whatever. I think it's more interesting to think about it from a nationalistic/collectivistic perspective. We live in a world where nations compete - for resources, market share in consumer goods, ownership of supply chains etc. To me it seems fundamentally maladap…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/21 08:06 PM
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A lot of women in engineering and science seem to struggle finding partners in my experience, because they want someone both hot and successful in a STEM field, and those men exist for sure but they're usually taken by the time they're 30.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/21 08:01 PM
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The problem of extended adolescence is definitely getting worse. No doubt. But when I think about my friends it's like: Teacher, Lawyer, Osteopathic Surgeon, Engineer, Programmer, CFA and me, CIMA. I had some rougher times when I was younger, but I never slipped into the state of complete drug dependency and joblessness. On a personal level I think dignity is an important trait men should have, and I think being a layabout is undignified. I also think this is one of the distinctions between how …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/21 07:41 PM
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I want a woman who is broadly from my own racial background, I have no ill will towards non-white people, but I find white women most attractive. That's one thing I won't compromise on.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/21 07:30 PM
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I don't think arts types are necessarily higher EQ than STEM types. If you'd have said salespeople have a higher EQ on average then I'd agree, but most people I've met in the arts (average people, not successful ones) are awful at connecting with people and often burn opportunities for this reason alone.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/21 07:26 PM
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In my experience, the problem with the betabuxxing concept is that a lot of women these days who do chase highly attractive men that are out of their league never really stop doing it. Even when they're in their 40s. I'm in my 30s and I went on a date with a 41 year old woman once (in one of my worse moments) and I wasn't up to her standards apparently. Her entire life had just been serial monogamy, three to six month relationships with attractive IBs and lawyers. If anything, shallow women's st…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/21 07:24 PM
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High-status people have generally being trying hard at something their entire lives to attain the status they have, you're thinking of good looking people.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/21 07:21 PM
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the guys with their shit together are snooze inspiring I don't agree with this. All of the people I've met with genuinely interesting hobbies (Advanced Padi divers, technical mountaineers, sailors, part-time carpenters etc) tend to be people with established careers. Even among musicians, most non-established men tend to play meme instruments like the acoustic guitar, and even then not well.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/21 07:18 PM
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I’ve seen plenty of average and below average looking men But is this an objective evaluation of their attractiveness? Don't big dataset studies reveal that women think something like 70-80% of men are below average?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/21 07:16 PM
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Although not always. I also have forum friends living with a boyfriend or husband who doesn't do much, and it's just more trouble to get rid of him than to let it go on. The thing is, if there's an abundance of these women who just want someone, anyone, then why is male sexlessness increasing? There's obviously a mitigating factor that compensates for their bum-ishness.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/21 07:14 PM
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Funny, I was like "is that the gimpgirl?" Anyway, I'm not sure we disagree. I think my general point is that most women would rather date an attractive bum than an unattractive engineer.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/21 07:13 PM
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I'm not a woman, I think people should roughly be aware of their own genetic limitations. If you're a 5'0 woman for example, it's understandable you want a taller guy, but insisting on a 6'0+ guy is just.... At some point the quality of the woman's genes have to come into it too, if we're going to be so clinical and eugenic about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/21 07:10 PM
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I mean, I don't disagree but even in ostensible "female self improvement spaces" I've seen an inordinate number of these "my dating history is primarily semi-employed/unemployed drug addicts" anecdotes. Let alone my own personal experiences. Honestly, I think the West (primarily the Anglosphere) is the only place where I've met women who consider habitual drug users attractive, and parse it as if it's a "hobby". Not even dealers, just.... your regular pothead.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/21 07:09 PM
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I don't agree with the whole "nice guy" dichotomy, I think looks trumps that. A highly attractive, nice, timid man will have his timidness halo-effected and he won't lack for sexual or romantic affection. All other things being equal, I agree women want "emotional experiences". There was an interesting study that was done that evaluated what sort of emotions (or lack of) women like in men. The results, surprisingly, were that women found stoical, emotionally controlled men deeply unattractive an…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/21 07:05 PM
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I think we're broadly in agreement. I'd definitely agree that, if we're controlling for woman looking for a long term relationship then those other factors come into play and are important. However I think where we would disagree is in how I believe OLD has fundamentally sort of obfuscated and blurred the lines between what is a relationship and what isn't. So many "relationships" these days aren't really committed relationships at all because I think people themselves are fundamentally confused…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/21 07:00 PM
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I'm curious as to whether you're a woman or a man, not for malicious purposes, I think it would just help me flesh out your reasoning when you say: None of them are particularly pretty men. I'd agree most of these men aren't traditionally what one would think of when one thinks of a "Chad". Instead they tend to have boyish good looks, think people like a young Pete Doherty. There's a certain "heroin chic" sexuality to men too after all. tldr: they're more likely to be 7s than they are 9s or 10s.…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/21 06:46 PM
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