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Mostly true, but intersexual dynamics is tied to the structure of the broader society. Attraction functions very differently in tight communities with minimal hierarchy and power inequalities
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/25 01:22 AM
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As far as I can tell, physical beauty is distributed among talented and smart people the same way it is across the rest of the population... you talk about being "self-aware", yet you have ignored the possibility of your own bias. You only notice the good-looking smart people
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/25 03:45 AM
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Yeah women are just as shallow as men. No doubt about that. But their shallowness is spread over three domains: looks, money, status, while men's shallowness applies only to looks. So from a certain angle it looks like women care less about looks than men, but it's only because there are other, equally shallow, things on their mind. Pointing fingers at each other for being shallow gets us no where though. The structure of our society is pushing us to maximise superficial dating value, instead of…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/25 11:14 PM
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Yeah, you're right. Real community is scarce. I guess it comes down to whether you believe red pill is a complete philosophy of love and attraction, or just a valid description of mainstream dating dynamics in our current society (capitalist, anonymous, atomised, and online). If it's just the latter, then fair enough
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/25 12:54 AM
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That’s probably more or less true. It’s just a detailed analysis of how superficial dating value interacts with gender in this society. Physical beauty is basically the only superficial dating value that women have, but men also have money and status. Being a decent looking man doesn’t necessarily mean you have as much superficial dating value as a decent looking woman, just like being a rich woman doesn’t mean you have as much superficial dating value as rich man. The point I was making was tha…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/25 10:42 PM
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You're right but there is also a "bad-boy" appeal that works on a lot of women. They actually like it sometimes, he isn't always just "getting away with it". It's something to do with the excitement of it I think, and the fact that it takes a lot of confidence to be a cunt to people. I shouldn't have to explain it really, it is demonstrated very clearly in centuries of culture at this point
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/25 02:35 AM
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Yep, that's fair. They relate to different domains of life, so its totally possible to have both at the same time. They have opposite attitudes towards the idea of hierarchy though. I would think that someone with strong leftist values would notice all the exceptions to the 80/20 rule, all the ugly couples and mixed-attractiveness couples who bond deeply over non-superficial things, and then think "if society was different (more community oriented maybe?) then we would see a lot more of this kin…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/25 11:10 PM
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nice. legit leftist values. and canonical red pill values in the comment below. A very rare combination. It seems wild to me that you can have both at the same time but there you go
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/25 12:33 PM
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If you think capitalism is inherently and unacceptably flawed, and demand an economic system that empowers workers instead of owners, then you're a leftist
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/25 12:30 PM
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The men who own corporations have no interest in pushing a feminist agenda. They want to maintain and expand their power. And they absolutely do control your life. They have unimaginable wealth and power, and they use it to shape the world in a way that allows them to maintain and expand their power. Even a child should be able to see and understand this... Feminists have no power, except the power to disrupt, protest, and generally be a nuisance until those with real power give in a little. Tha…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/25 11:38 PM
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>I can't think anything men can possibly do to bump their attractivveness in an emergency This is gold. I mean, I agree with you, but phrasing it as an emergency is very funny. The one legitimate advantage women have over men in our society is that they can obtain free, casual sex with much less time and effort. Most women dont even want to use that power though, which is actually why it works: If women were constantly looking for casual sex, men would have more options, and it would all level o…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/25 11:02 AM
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The influence of feminism is barely a blip on the radar. We still live in a ruthlessly capitalist society, completely and utterly dominated by corporations with practically infinite wealth and power. While these filthy rich white dudes run your life, you sit here complaining about feminism, a bunch of virtually powerless women just fighting for basic human rights in a system that would prefer to force them all to be housewives who cant vote
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/25 10:56 AM
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you mean the 2025 where conservatives globally have more political power than ever, abortion rights have been reversed, and donald trump is president?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/25 04:39 AM
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women's issues: no civil rights until recently, getting raped, bodily autonomy (abortion), lacking representation in positions of power men's issues: cant get laid as easy as women, "man-up" culture, some minor disadvantages in custody disputes idk man, even as a man who really cares about men's issues, I believe women's issues are actually worth rallying around and fighting for. Men's issues are important but not in the same way. Men's issues are more subtle and interpersonal, while women's iss…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/25 02:17 AM
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"we live in a period that is mostly about feminism" What world do you live in?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/25 02:08 AM
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You're right. I'd love to see how the men in the comments approach the problem of a conventionally ugly woman having dating issues... Of course they would say it's HER problem, and she should go get therapy. But when men struggle its a society problem and everyone else needs to change
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/25 02:05 AM
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100% agree. Tonnes of women have no interest in casual sex, but the women that do want it can get it a lot easier than their male counterparts. Also, I think a lot of women go through a short phase at some point where they have a bunch of casual sex, and then they go back to being relationship oriented. And I think a lot of men want to have a similar phase, and they try to, but they find out it is extremely hard, and then what should have been a short phase of hedonic indulgence becomes a decade…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/25 06:27 AM
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"Neoliberal feminist-leaning"?? Do you know what neoliberal means? Feminists are generally left-leaning, and therefore against capitalism
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/25 01:13 AM
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Every day I become more certain that well regulated sex work would go a long way for male mental health. Many men are just totally locked out and will never get to have those super erotic, casual, hedonic experiences that women get to have
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/25 12:40 AM
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I have a lot of complaints about dating dynamics but this is not one of them. Where do you live? I have never seen this kind of thing... I've spent my whole life among working class, western people. Maybe you live among rich people?in my world, women sometimes look down on a guy without a job, or with a shit job, but they don't expect him to pay for things or buy stuff, they just want a guy who (seems) to have his shit together
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/25 08:29 AM
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So the assumption is that if if you were more attractive, you could propose casual sex and she would say yes? I don't think that's true... I think most women are just not down for casual sex most of the time, and when they are, it's due to some extraneous variable (like recently being dumped or something). If anything, when girls go into ho-mode their standards drop. There are some girls who go out sport-fucking the hottest guys they can find, but they are definitely not the same girls who will …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/25 04:46 AM
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The orgasm gap is definitely real, but not having an orgasm shouldn't mean it was a horrible experience that you wish never happened... Unless he actually does something bad/unconsensual it should be neutral at worst. But I think the truth is that most women feel like increasing their body count = losing value, so they feel scammed if a LTR doesn't eventuate after sex
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/25 08:56 PM
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That exact situation has happened to me a few times. The difference is I don't assume she "never had any interest in me as a person at all", I assume that she has other options for a serious relationship and has decided she doesn't want to take it any further with me. It IS disappointing. It hurts a bit. But I'm still grateful for the experience and wouldn't take it back, especially since it didn't drag on and waste years of my life or anything
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/25 08:46 PM
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As a guy, it's hard to relate to women when they are so disappointed to have slept with someone that they actually wanted to date seriously... You got to fuck someone you really liked, even if it didn't turn into what you wanted. It's hard for guys to feel heaps of empathy for that
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/25 01:01 AM
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Wow, youve got a painful learning curve ahead of you buddy. Good luck
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/25 03:19 AM
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Nah, it's mainly just teenagers who think like that. Men with experience know from experience that they get on better and have better sex with women who are similar to them (experience). Vast majority of men on Reddit are teenage virgins, so not surprising that you think like that
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/25 08:15 PM
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I much prefer women with a little experience. A lot of guys feel the same. You're a minority, and it's going to be hard to find people who share your values. Try meeting women at church or something
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/25 10:04 PM
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> Even a pathetic addict like Johnny Depp can easily find a woman. Yeah no shit, he's rich, good looking, extremely successful and famous, and a fairly talented actor. He's also made shitloads of movies and does a bunch of other projects. You have a strange definition of "pathetic"
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/25 09:29 AM
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I think what it comes down to is that hot pussy is so overwhelmingly desirable that it just feels insane that society can expect men to just go about their boring lives accepting that they don’t get to have it
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/25 03:54 AM
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We keep seeing this idea: “If you dont want me to be a right-wing POS, then offer me a better deal!” Why is it feminism’s job to provide men with a good life? Feminists have other shit to deal with. Men’s dating issues are not their concern. Men (on this sub) are always trying to make their personal difficulties into political issues. I’m not saying that our personal issues aren’t important; they just have nothing to do with feminism or left-wing politics
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/25 02:40 AM
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> I think women simply ignoring this, won't make the problem go away This makes me think that your ideal solution will somehow involve women taking some kind of action to help men... Like you feel like women are at fault, and need to step up in some way... Which is fucked up However, framing it as a society problem is actually correct. But fixing society, properly, is a big and slow thing. I get the impression that you want a quick fix. You probably don't care about an overall positive change in…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/25 01:26 AM
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SSRI's can dull it a bit, make it less intrusive, without any negative side effects (if you're lucky). Legalised and well regulated sex-work could also go a long way here. It could be treated as healthcare for those who need it, rather than an indulgence for those who can afford it
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/25 03:59 AM
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Any big problem always comes back to power, money, and capitalism. Anyone on the left would agree. Gender relates to those things in the way that men have traditionally controlled all those things
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/25 03:32 AM
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> it doesn't matter how smart, rich, or successful you are - she doesn't find you attractive, and the relationship won't have a "spark." Ed Sheeran's short ugly ass would have gorgeous women lining up to fuck. Being popular, rich, charasmatic, talented etc. increases a man's sex appeal immensely. The same is not true for women. Your whole post is backwards
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/25 06:37 AM
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The existence of misogynist womanizers doesn't falsify statements like this: "if incels ditched the misogyny and became decent human beings, they would have more success in dating". Because for normal men who can't/wont manipulate and abuse their way to sex, being decent is usually necessary to make connections. Being a manipulative womanizer is a (fucked-up) skill set you will never learn competently, so you have to take the normal path. Another important point is that the women who respond to …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/25 02:40 AM
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Yep, that makes sense. Must be annoying. Something that might help your vetting is to make sure the guy seems emotionally invested in whether you like him. A guy coming across as flawlessly confident should indicate to you that he is indifferent to whether you like him or not. Obviously outright insecurity is unattractive, but he should seem at least a little bit anxious for you to like him. Women often seem to mistake indifference for genuine confidence
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/25 04:59 AM
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Its not about "not wanting anything else" it's about not needing anything else to make it worthwhile. It's a situation where she would probably love to date this dude, but shes happy to settle for casual sex with him if that's all he will give her
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/25 04:47 AM
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I don't think it's like "I'd fuck you, but I wouldn't date you"... It's more like "your raw sex appeal is enough that I'd fuck you without needing anything else from you to make it worthwhile". I imagine a woman's experience is very different, because men often want to have sex with women they aren't particularly attracted to and definitely wouldn't consider dating. So to you, being chosen for casual sex probably feels like a downgrade, rather than an upgrade (?)
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/25 02:11 AM
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I think it's pretty common for women to need a strong emotional connection before sexual attraction even gets activated. That being said, you are right that as a measure conventional sex appeal, women choosing you for casual sex is probably the best marker. Which is an interesting gender divide, because for women, being chosen for casual sex does not indicate conventional sex appeal at all. Men are often willing to have casual sex with women they don't find particularly attractive
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/25 02:02 AM
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You are correct. But many of the men in this sub lean groyper/incel to some degree, so they will take this as an attack on the validity of their identity
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/25 01:23 AM
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Jesus Christ, get off the internet
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/25 02:05 AM
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The point is that it works and it is within your control, even if it's difficult. Women don't even have the option to increase their attractiveness that way
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/25 10:13 AM
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Make a similar joke about the other things on the list. Go on
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/25 10:00 AM
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What planet do you live on? Men have WAY more opportunity to increase their attractiveness. Becoming wealthy, popular, confident, or skilled all increase a man's attractiveness far more than they increase a woman's
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/25 09:50 AM
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Bad people would have less opportunity to take power than they currently do, that’s for sure. And even though there will always be people who are just inherently evil on a biological level, there will probably be less bad people because growing up in a society that actually gives a shit would make people less bitter
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/25 05:41 AM
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You said: "Now if u are say a 5 in look u can use status and wealth to get 8 or 7 overall but in a equal society the only critieria would be looks, height etc that is genetic stuff and this means most men would never be able to improve from a 5 to 8" I was pointing out that you are wrong: you can still climb hierarchies and gain incredible social status under socialism if you have what it takes to become a rock star, pro athletes, famous actor or whatever. Average men don't become billionaires e…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/25 04:16 AM
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Socialism doesn't prevent hierarchies forming, it just prevents economic exploitation. There will still be rock stars, pro athletes, famous actors etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/25 02:48 AM
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I can tell you’re intelligent enough to take what I have already said and find an answer to those questions, so your reply is disappointing. > men's issues aren't the responsibility of the left Yeah, basically. I will re-explain why below. > that the left is instead concerned with economic equality rather than social equality (support for women, BIPOC and First Nations people notwithstanding) As stated clearly in my previous comment: The left fights for those demographics because their interests…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/25 02:15 AM
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I’m someone who cares a lot about men’s issues, and I’m always having conversations about how men can have better lives. I’m also a die-hard leftist. To me (and any other serious leftist I think) those causes don’t really overlap. You say the left is “supposed to be defined by social equality and progress”… I think that’s a stretch. The left is defined by opposition to capitalist power. The “inequality” that concerns the left is, and always has been, economic inequality. And that inequality is e…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/25 04:19 AM
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Men behave far worse than women. This is a fact. If you don't know this intuitively then go look at some research. If you expect people to treat men as well as they treat women, despite men treating people far worse than women treat people, then you are expecting too much. Of course we should aim to be as nice as possible, and give people the benefit of the doubt, but a little bit of bias against men is to be expected, given the way men tend to behave. Improving the situation involves being nice…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/25 02:50 AM
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I'm from Australia, but our political situation isn't too different from the USA. there is no opportunity to pursue leftist goals through this political system. The democrats are not the left. Ultimately, power comes from money, and money is profit, and profit is exploitation. Voting progressive is good, but has very little to do with the left. That is why the left is not interested in gaining support by winning people over. The left is not interested in the traditional politics game, so they ar…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/25 01:06 AM
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For leftists, the overarching goal is to dismantle capitalism and create a different kind of system. If that isn't your primary motive, you will probably always feel somewhat alienated by the left
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/25 12:39 AM
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> Eh, I think there was an idea that women were stupid back then that wasn't structural per se, just a widely held belief. Wait, you think the reason girls weren’t formally educated was because everyone thought they were stupid? They weren’t ALLOWED to go to school. It was 100% structural. The widely held belief that they were stupid was a byproduct. > The leftist agenda SHOULD be about addressing inequality where we see it. That’s just not what the left is about. The left is not here to address…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/25 11:59 PM
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That doesn't seem like an attack... I can understand women being chosen over men for certain roles, and vice versa for other roles. And the reality is that men tend to behave much worse than women, so people respond to that in predictable ways. For example, I usually prefer to interact with female customer service people because they just tend to be nicer. Addressing the reasons that men tend to behave worse is extremely important, but it's not really a structural issue that can be rallied aroun…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/25 05:20 AM
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There is a bit of misandry, but it's literally nothing next to the misogyny that is fiercely embedded into western culture. Sure, the misandry deserves attention too, but idk it's just hard to rally around. Regarding the empathy gap and education gap, they are not "structural" in the same way that women's and girls issues were (and still are to some degree). Women were literally not allowed to work, vote, or study... Issues like that fit with the leftist agenda, because they involve dismantling …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/25 05:02 AM
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Idk I just haven't seen this "attack" on white men by the left that you describe, but I live in Australia so maybe it's different here. White men certainly aren't receiving any special attention, but there is no attack
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/25 04:52 AM
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Yeah these are real issues, I just don't think they can be used politically by the left. The left certainly don't oppose intervention for male suicide or anything like that, it's just not an issue that fits in the leftist agenda. Advocating for these issues is important though, and can certainly be done alongside leftist activism
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/25 04:41 AM
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I'm pretty sure kids receive enough examples of white men being the hero. Even if every history lesson paints White men as villains (which isn't true) the broader culture is still full of white male heroes to model. I don't think anyone, if they are being honest with themself, feels disadvantaged for being a white male
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/25 09:36 PM
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I have never really encountered any pushback due to being a man in left wing spaces... What are the men's issues that require radical acknowledgement in left wing spaces? I'm someone who thinks (and complains) a lot about men's issues in sex and dating. These issues are very real and cause a lot of suffering for men. I find it hard to imagine rallying around these issues politically though. It's more like a personal thing that we have to support each other through and cope with. I guess the thin…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/25 09:29 PM
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How a man behaves factors pretty heavily into his sex appeal, while women have a bit more freedom to be odd, quiet, or passive, without losing much sex appeal. This sucks for autistic men, but its not anyone's fault. People of all genders are born with dating disadvantages
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/25 10:18 PM
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The feeling that women are the "prize" is a result of supply and demand. Women typically feel they have many options, men typically feel they have very few
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/25 07:30 AM
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I don't know what you are saying in your first paragraph. The second paragraph seems kinda unfair. I think you've gotta be a certain type of person to be an effective leader, and it's probably true that more men are like that than women, but the women who are like that wouldn't be more easily manipulated than the men who are like that
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/25 05:16 AM
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Interesting. I haven't experienced that, but I vaguely recall hearing about it from others
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/25 05:11 AM
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This is very true. But the implication that comes from it is that men and women are different on a biological level. not just a cultural level. And that leads to tricky discussions. I'm not talking about the trans debate (fuck transphobes) I'm talking about cis-hetero social norms and the structure of the hetero dating world. If our dating strategies are so inherently different, then we have to accommodate that in our culture somehow. Traditional gender roles served that function, but we have re…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/25 01:22 AM
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OP, your post is called "Women over exaggerate their concerns of their safety." Come on. The implication that women should calm down is very strong in your post
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/25 01:12 AM
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Controlling attraction? How did you get to that idea? The amount of profiles you see are always going to be limited, there has to be some method of deciding which profiles are shown to who, and the current algorithm sucks
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/25 10:21 AM
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Yeah I was kind of imagining a post capitalist Utopia when I wrote about it
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/25 09:11 AM
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Search feature is very interesting to think about! Definitely highlights how current apps are not designed to satisfy users
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/25 07:35 AM
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I don't think this is true. I think average women quickly become disillusioned after riding the Chad carousel for a few months
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/25 07:25 AM
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That's a good point. The texting part can be a bit pointless. Maybe the perfect app would just give you the option to select a date and time to meet, with no chat feature. But yeah, gatherings might be better than individual dates. Going on 5 individual dates takes a lot of time and organising, where you could just have a little event and meet them all at the same time. Maybe the perfect app would just create an event for like 10 compatible (including looks) people
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/25 07:23 AM
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Yeah the current apps know how hot you are, but they still show you people above your league anyway, that's the problem
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/25 06:33 AM
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You are forgetting principle number 1 that makes this work: "There is only 1 dating app". It's a hypothetical, not a sales pitch
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/25 06:32 AM
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Hot women would only get hot guys in their feed, in my idea. Currently, they get tonnes of ugly guys in their feed
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/25 06:30 AM
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If a woman is hot she will get nothing but hot guys
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/25 03:15 AM
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More so than current apps?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/25 01:12 AM
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Any dating app would be all dudes. What makes this one more likely to be dude-heavy?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/25 01:12 AM
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What? Tinder shows you people above your league all the time. It's like it's whole thing...
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/25 01:10 AM
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Yeah that is how people react to the current incarnation of dating apps, and you can't expect otherwise. Of course men just mindlessly swipe, because their chances are so low when women have so many options.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/25 01:09 AM
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It's easy to say "just ignore it" when you're the one with more options. Men are often in the position where if they were to break up with their partner, they know that it will be months before they have any hope of cultivating a new connection, while their partner always has multiple guys knocking on the door ready to go. Yes, the healthiest way to approach it is to just not fret about what's outside of your control, but we are human, and we can't help getting insecure about stuff like that. Wo…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/25 05:36 AM
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Yep, that's a great point. You kind of have to do an extra step to compare across gender. You have to compare a woman's sex appeal (compared to other women) to a man's sex appeal (compared to other men). But yeah your observation here is very on point, and it highlights the whole point of the post. If we try to compare men and women directly, women are insanely more attractive. That is the reality we all accept. And I'm curious how women would feel if it was somehow reversed
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/25 04:28 AM
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Well those guys were both hovering around the same concept: league is defined by how attractive you are to the general population. They have their idiosyncratic ways of measuring it and maybe they are a bit stubborn and specific. At the end of the day it is based on intuition because no one has any data about how many people find them attractive. But come on, we all know a hot person when we meet them. And we can make a pretty accurate guess about how hot they are to the general population, base…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/25 03:51 AM
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I'll let you figure out the first question yourself. There's a million ways to prove women receive unfathomably more interest than men. As for the second question, yes, get mad and cry Edit (also I know a lot of the interest women receive is creepy and unwanted. I don't think women's lives are easier than men's or anything like that)
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/25 01:18 AM
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There are some people you are attracted to and others you are not. A person's league is defined by the tendency of people to be attracted to them, compared to others. Good for you if that comparison doesn't feel relevant to your experience, but it's a pretty simple and easy thing to understand
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/25 12:47 AM
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Are you are someone with strong romantic and sexual desire? I think it is reasonable that being left out feels painful
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/25 12:28 AM
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I think there are a lot of decent men with no options, invisible to you because they don't feel inclined to make it anyone else's problem. I don't think money or looks is necessarily the main reason
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/25 12:16 AM
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Great point!
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/25 11:34 PM
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