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Purposefully vague on the job title. Like a lot of jobs you can discuss general themes and be anonymous, I have no way of identifying who that person is or what the case is. I have no way of knowing if it’s even open or closed. The prosecution rate is 3%?! I would call that under prosecuted. The standard of evidence required seems to vary… a lot.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/24 06:02 AM
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The standard a case has to be before it gets into court is very high
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/24 06:01 AM
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Because the objective prosecution rates are ridiculously low and the standard of evidence required ridiculously high. My sibling works in rape investigations as their main job. They have CCTV evidence of women being raped, it’s still hard to get it anywhere near a court room, even forensic evidence doesn’t get them far on its own, Let alone just a statement. Rape is sadly VERY under prosecuted
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/24 11:56 PM
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The prosecution rate is something ridiculous like 3%. Dw, chances are you can rape someone and get away with it
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/24 11:54 PM
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The USA is a unique experiment, it has a range of variables that make it impossible to extrapolate how useful policing actually is. Guns, extremism both politically and in religion, very poor and short police training, a lack of vetting etc
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/24 02:53 PM
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You just seem to be anti-cop? At least in the society I live in police are an absolute necessity and have helped me numerous times. Cops are literally our only defence against sexual crimes, without the fear of being reported I would be concerned about those rates going up even more (this corner of reddit regular site fear of getting in trouble as their only reason to not commit sexual assault).
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/24 02:19 PM
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I personally think it should be decriminalised and HIGHLY regulated, however I’m saying I can see how from others POV they think it should be illegal. You can see others POV without agreeing with it, wild I know. I would say most feminist groups are pro legalisation, and most religious anti feminist groups are the ones trying to ban it outright
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/24 01:37 PM
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The law as it is written is not how the law works in reality. I would say feminist assholes are the minority, but like in most movements the assholes shout the loudest. The rest of us are too busy living our lives and working.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/24 01:28 PM
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Ah yes because journalists and bloggers represent an average woman. It’s written by someone using the label feminist, feminism is no single set of ideas. It’s a very individual label. Two feminists can have completely different opinions. She just sounds like an asshole, nothing to do with feminism.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/24 01:13 PM
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I disagree. Female sexuality is far more complex. It often takes learning a woman’s body for her to have an enjoyable experience in bed. ONS and non regular casual sex do not allow for this gradual learning to place, leading to (mostly) shit sex. Honestly fuck off, that does not get you in legal trouble. How many times have people actually been charged or prosecuted for that crime in isolation?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/24 12:55 PM
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It’s a demonstration of how serious crimes are taken by police, so if you aren’t even committing a crime I don’t see why you should be concerned
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/24 12:52 PM
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It’s really simple. If she moves away or says no then stop?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/24 12:46 PM
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I’m not advocating for the assault part. But just approaching, having a chat and offering your number is not illegal. Sexualised language is not risky. Rape prosecutions around around 3%, if you can rape someone and almost always get away with it then you don’t need to worry about flirting. Also women don’t want to ruin their night out by phoning the police on a guy who politely approached them. The issue is most ‘approaches’ including sexual assault and despite me repeatedly saying no and tryin…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/24 12:33 PM
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Physical interest= Holding hands, hand on lower thigh, leaning in when talking/closing the physical distance throughout the date, dancing, hand on lower back, good eye contact, responding with smiling/laughs
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/24 12:29 PM
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Holding hands and subtle touch is an important part of showing someone you find them attractive. That’s probably why you don’t seem interested. It’s a bit disingenuous that you make a post about women demanding men ‘jump their bones’ when you don’t even hold their hand. There is a wonderful zone in the middle that you are pretending doesn’t exist
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/24 12:27 PM
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I was approached in a book shop. I’ve been approached for mindless sex countless times in bars/pubs/clubs by someone who can’t see straight, but said no because I don’t want a hook up and horrifically bad sex with someone too intoxicated to see. Plus I don’t want an STD. It wasn’t some big deal, it’s not illegal, the police were not called, I just said no (and for those that went on to assault me I chose more colourful language). If any had given their number and asked for a date I would have sa…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/24 12:16 PM
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What do you mean? I’m European, I would argue in general Europe is far more sexually liberal then the USA
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/24 12:15 PM
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‘Made illegal by feminist’, haha get off the internet. I’ve been approached by men, and I mean genuinely approached (not just cat called or being approached because it’s a dare or because they are drunk/high) once in my life. And I went on a date with him. Im a feminist who has majority feminist friends, including activist feminists (so not just feminist by name), it would be very flattering to be genuinely approached by a man. Male sexuality is not demonised. Assaulting and raping people is dem…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/24 11:49 AM
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Got a feeling it’s more likely it’s something else and they don’t want to hurt feelings, or OP does genuinely act disinterested on dates
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/24 11:47 AM
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‘Take it easy and be a gentleman’ what EXACTLY does this mean. Because I’ve had male friends say this to me and when they explained the date in great detail they essentially gave no indication to the date they were remotely interested. My current partner is very old fashioned, I would argue a true gentleman. He still managed to build the sexual tension and I KNEW he was interested, without any sexual activity. By the time we kissed at the end of date two, whilst literally dancing in the rain, it…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/24 11:46 AM
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You are confusing two things. You can ‘take it slow’ sexually but still be romantic and show interest. You seem to want to go on a date, show no interest, and she’s somehow supposed to guess you like her?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/24 11:43 AM
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Exactly. There is intimacy levels between nothing to fucking.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/24 11:41 AM
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There is a wonderful area between showing no interest and fucking someone. Hand holding, romantic gestures, kiss, showing genuine interest in conversation.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/24 11:41 AM
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I would argue feminism has made it easier as it teaches women their sexual pleasure is important and that they can take charge of their sexuality (rather then having to guard it and go without). If you aren’t getting laid, it’s not feminism fault
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/24 11:38 AM
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Sounds like your parents agree with my sentiment
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/24 07:14 AM
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Most of my interactions with RP have confirmed initial generalisations I was told about the movement. Quite often when I think ‘huh that’s a nuanced or interesting argument’, and actually look at their tag or ask it’s someone who doesn’t identify with RP. Generally I find the whole pill thing in general reductionist, and don’t subscribe to either ideology but would sit significantly closer to BP
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/24 04:54 AM
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I think generally in my experience BP acknowledges the niche, but it can be rather hard to get across naunce when dating with RP as they tend to just read one part of an argument out of context and then roll with it. Naunce isn’t exactly the forté of the movement.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/24 04:51 AM
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I’ve edited to improve the format, but yeah the ebbs and flows are something some people don’t appreciate and I think can cause a lot of resentment between couples. The issue comes when it’s always one sided
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/24 04:47 AM
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Firstly, Relationships are NEVER 50/50, because people fluctuate. There are periods where either partner will be giving more to the relationship and that’s okay, hell that can fluctuate on a daily basis. When someone’s unwell for example it may be more like 20/80. When someone is going through an intense period at work/in education or when they may have grief the effort from each partner will change. Child rearing is one of those periods in a relationship. However there is a lot men CAN do but d…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/24 04:37 AM
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No- Im arguing we get some likes, most of which are sex related. You get an actual date offer maybe 1-3x per month if you are pretty active on the app
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/24 06:57 PM
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Im not sure how many likes you think we get PER WEEK?!
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/24 06:02 PM
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I didn’t say all men, I said in my experience and the experience of my friends that’s what a large proportion of men use dating apps for
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/24 03:30 PM
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Im talking about the specific demographic using dating apps, which is not all men.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/24 04:07 AM
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Women don’t have hundreds of options for relationships at their finger tips either? Bad Sex, maybe, but not relationships/dates etc
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/24 11:30 PM
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Women do this too, stay with shitty men because they only seem to be able to find shitty men. Its all bias. If your friends or mine can’t find a decent person of the opposite sex there is a reason for it, and until they work out that reason and address it then they will keep having this problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/24 07:17 AM
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It has been studied, there are plenty of studies looking at prematurity (of different degrees) and subsequent lifelong conditions
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/24 05:28 AM
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HPV, that’s why we now vaccinate against it
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/24 04:04 AM
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We have done the opposite. A village used to raise of child, but as of the last 1-2 generations we’ve become very isolated
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/24 04:02 AM
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He/she has just explained why it is NOT a good explanation of the autism epidemic. The most clear variables from my POV are: - the every increasing criteria for an ASD diagnosis (there is a lot of autism in my generation of my family, and no diagnosed autism in the rest of my family. Although to me it’s clear that both generations still alive that are older then me have autism, they just aren’t diagnosed) - the advancements in medicine keeping more and more premature babies and complex needs bab…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/24 03:58 AM
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Assuming she was originally fertile without health issues most women can have children into their 40’s Men’s sperm quality decreases with age too
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/23 06:52 AM
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I would say daughters are actually less of the concern, for my generation (the same as your children’s) it’s generally men that seem to be more reliant on parents
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/23 06:27 AM
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I know, that’s what I’m saying. It’s not about any of that shit, it’s all about power balance. One sided relationships are never good
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/23 11:11 AM
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I don’t know how to?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/23 07:02 AM
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Because nobody in a monogamous relationship should be cheating
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/23 07:00 AM
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‘Common sense’ = your warped view of the world. Nice.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/23 06:59 AM
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This is all just about power imbalance. It’s good to be in a relationship where you worship each other, one way relationships don’t work long term.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/23 06:55 AM
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I’ve slept with men with a range of body counts and levels of experience. Low body counts with relationships under their belt are by far the best in bed. Girlfriends will invest time teaching their partner how to have good sex, ONS don’t (usually). I’d rather be with a guy with a body count of 1 (which was a long term girlfriend) then a body count of 100 ONS, i have slept with men with body counts in triple digits who were frankly awful tbh.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/23 06:43 AM
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Same with a few generations ago in the uk. However moving out young in 2023 almost guarantees you a lifetime of paying off someone else’s mortgage and in doing so actually reduces your long term independence.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/23 08:04 PM
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The USA is wild. I’m from the uk, I’m 25 and so is my boyfriend. It’s completely standard to be living at home at this age, it’s a stupid financial decision to move out and sink all of your wage into rent when you can save for a deposit and move out when you buy instead
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/23 07:01 PM
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What have you tried so far to improve? Anything we can help with?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/23 06:52 AM
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Men deny the reality of sexless lonely women
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/23 03:17 PM
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Because men would rather pretend they are being pushed around then admit they love their girlfriends and want to spend time with them over their mates, or that they cba to do a boys activity so use their girlfriend as a convenient excuse.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/23 05:51 AM
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I hope this becomes the top comment… but I’m sure something crazy will take the top spot
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/23 05:49 AM
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I’m not sure why you think marriage or commitment prevents someone becoming a single parent?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/23 12:03 AM
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The power imbalance is too great in this scenario and you are doing it with the hope she becomes your wife… She needs profesional help for probably horrific amounts of trauma, not a random guy trying to get a wife
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/23 03:21 AM
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This is a well known form of abuse. What happens in reality is men take in women who are drug addicts who have had horrific experiences on the street (and likely before, hence why they ended up homeless), they supply a roof over their head/food etc in exchange for sex. The Woman feels she’s has no choice but to sleep with this man, as at least it means she’s not on the streets or back with her previous abusers. Essentially they end up with even worse mental health and addiction from what is repe…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/23 03:15 AM
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No, I meant regularly, as in it was relatively common before birth control
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/23 03:06 AM
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You are joking right? Prior to birth control women regularly had babies into their 40’s!!
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/23 02:48 AM
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Guess you don’t know much about science if you think that’s the norm
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/23 02:48 AM
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There has to be a ‘cut off’ somewhere, but it’s a not some clear cut line. Risk increases with age, and fertility decreases, it’s also extremely individual. There are plenty of women closer to 40 or have lower risk pregnancies then co-morbid women in their 20’s!. Even so at a population level in healthy women fertility is going strong long after 35
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/23 02:45 AM
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And? Assuming you are otherwise healthy women continue to have babies into their early 40’s (sometimes later)
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/23 09:45 PM
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Haha she’s fucking nuts
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/23 05:19 PM
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Hmm I saw the papers moan about it on their behalf, not the Celebs themselves
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/23 09:18 AM
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I would say we are a pretty average middle class family. I don’t know what you would consider very ‘feminist’, that word seems to mean different things to different people. If you are implying my dad and cousin have any sort of filter around us I can assure you they don’t, they aren’t the most PC of people :’)
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/23 08:38 PM
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There are normal men on this sub, who will just say men aren’t all the same (which is true). The actual pill people will rationalise it in some weird way
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/23 11:24 AM
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This is a personal question only you can answer. My personal view on it is that I do whatever feels safe and right. Sometimes this is first date, sometimes I wait longer. In my experience first date sex doesn’t mean he’s just using you for sex, the same way waiting doesn’t mean he isn’t just using you for sex (some men are happy to play the long game). Men are all different, and generally the type of men that follow ‘pill’ ideology are not the type of men I’m trying to impress anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/23 11:02 AM
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Maybe my family are just a fluke then. Defo not the case for the men in my life, they seem completely blind to shitty male behaviour. Mum and sister have managed to pick up on shitty behaviour much faster
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/23 08:36 AM
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God maybe it’s just my family but the men in my family are useless at this (the only truly abusive relationship I’ve been in they absolutely loved him -_-), my mum and sister seem to be much better a predicting who is good LTR material.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/23 08:27 AM
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This is super simple, just communicate. Do not have unprotected sex with anyone without first having conversations about: - what happens if you get pregnant - I expect a paternity test, non negotiable That gives a woman the choice to walk away. Rather then waiting until she’s pregnant, which is too late. Personally how men answer those two above questions can be deal breakers for me, so even though I use protection I have those conversations VERY early on.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/23 08:15 AM
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That’s ridiculous. 1) my male family members think everyone is ‘cool’. What you want as a friend is not the same as a partner 2) it’s completely inappropriate to introduce a family member on a first date or something
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/23 08:07 AM
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Im not claiming to be a study and giving hard numbers as fact, I’m just pointing out there are a ridiculous number of flaws not accounted for that should have a significant impact on how the data is interpreted
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/23 01:48 PM
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Maybe you pitch yourself too high? How many people have you asked out? I myself have never been asked out in person, only ever online which is a handful of times. Just because women don’t ask men out doesn’t mean they aren’t noticed, depending on where you live a lot of cultures expect the man to do the asking. So keep asking, when you see a woman you find attractive or enjoy the company of just ask.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/23 11:43 AM
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I would say my partner is an average man in terms of more objective measures (at least the measures red pill would look at- income, height/looks, build etc). And I’m the one who asked him out… so I would say I did notice average men when I was single yes Prior to him my dates were a mix of ‘average’ men and maybe slightly above average. Generally I found those above average in terms of red pill measures tended to be arrogant, humility is an attractive trait so I tended to have 2nd/3rd dates with…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/23 11:37 AM
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The stats are likely wrong because they don’t have any way of controlling variables, such a what even is the definition of a relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/23 11:36 AM
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Men juggling harems would say they are single and be counted in the single stats, which is kinda my point. I know so many women who say they are in relationships with men who say they aren’t. So it doesn’t mean 100% more men are single, it means what is being counted as a relationship isn’t very consistent
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/23 11:35 AM
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I’m saying the stats you produced don’t reflect reality. Men and women are (mostly) dating each other. Some date out of their age range but this is rare. So the stats of 60% vs 30% must be wrong
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/23 12:41 AM
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The result would be the same, exactly, which wouldn’t necessarily reflect reality.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/23 12:26 AM
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I’m saying it’s not ‘only chads’ that are in relationship, plenty of average people are too. I’m not saying it’s EASY, dating isn’t easy unless you are genetically blessed. But with a basic bit of work and effort most average people can get relationships
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/23 11:15 PM
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I’m saying it’s not ‘only chads’ that are in relationship, plenty of average people are too. I’m not saying it’s EASY, dating isn’t easy unless you are genetically blessed. But with a basic bit of work and effort most average people can get relationships
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/23 11:14 PM
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How is this data collected… because I know A LOT of women who would report they are in a relationship with men who would report they aren’t
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/23 11:03 PM
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They don’t recognise any other women exist that’s why. If they aren’t stunning and sexual they aren’t women. That’s what I’ve learnt from this sub.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/23 08:11 PM
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They aren’t even the ‘norm’ in the circle you described. I am a woman, in said circle. Educated women don’t want ‘chads’, have you been on a date with a Chad? You feel your brain cells dying
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/23 08:10 PM
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So how do all the average, normal men in their 20’s have girlfriends? Oh wait, because most people date at their level.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/23 08:08 PM
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‘A lot of women are 1 and 4’?! Yeah maybe if you only interact with women in the form of red pill propaganda.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/23 08:08 PM
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Not when you compare to an ugly virgin female
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/23 06:54 PM
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So you want me to believe all men are trash? Weird take
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/23 06:51 PM
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So your point is women should put their happiness aside for men by choice, because if they don’t men will just take it. Are you just indirectly calling all men rapists right now or am I misunderstanding something? Because granted I understand some men (like some women) are horrible people but you seem to be saying men as a collective here?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/23 03:26 PM
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Your point being women have to put in more effort (by doing an action) whilst men are accepted as they are by society. Yes, your point is made and interestingly the same point I made
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/23 02:47 PM
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As I said, that whole trope exists for a reason. And how tf would i evidence that other then you speaking to any women you know. Have you had many girlfriends?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/23 02:43 PM
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That’s not likewise. Shaving your armpits (a hygiene risk that is both an addition to routine and uncomfortable/itchy) is not the same as just leaving your hair to grow …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/23 02:42 PM
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Guess you didn’t read the comment mate
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/23 02:02 PM
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Maybe it’s because of my job, I work with a lot of vulnerable groups including domestic abuse victims, but I don’t think I’ve met any so far that didn’t have deep psychological trauma PRIOR to the abuse ever happening. There will of course be exceptions to that, but abusers are deliberate in who they abuse, and vulnerable people make the best targets (vulnerable meaning poor mental health or complex backgrounds from the start). I’m not blaming women (or any victims) for that, I’m saying abusers …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/23 02:02 PM
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Eating ‘healthy’ in a way that means you are not hungry does not keep female bodies in a desirable shape.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/23 01:53 PM
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And you think women just have the bodies they walk around with. There is literally a whole genre of memes and jokes about girlfriends not eating anything. It’s not because we aren’t fucking hungry
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/23 01:38 PM
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As long as you putting your happiness aside doesn’t infringe on the rights of others and isn’t illegal that’s literally don’t of my business
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/23 01:36 PM
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Beards are completely in fashion, a lot of men could choose not to shave and be seen as more attractive. Shaving does not equate to hygiene, in fact shaving increases infection risk. Yup I do live in a European country
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/23 01:20 PM
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Having an itchy groin/armpit/legs with ingrown hairs is certainly not for my benefit. The pain of waxing my upper lip is not for my benefit. Make up (when I occasionally wear it) is usually for the benefit of others, if it was for my benefit I’d wear it everyday and I don’t.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/23 07:20 AM
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Men who have ALL of those traits and are 10/10 do still struggle to get women. If you tone those traits down AND are a 10/10 you may get a few women, although not as many as someone who is a nice guy and good looking. I’ve walked out on a dates with 2 VERY attractive men, one because he started to give manosphere vibes and the other because he came across as subtly hating women and was disrespectful. There reason someone is bad or good in the dating world isn’t some tickbox exercise. A LOT of va…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/23 06:44 AM
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Nah we just come hairless, well groomed, smelling like flowers, perfect skin and hair. Fuck off. The physical expectation on women is far more engrained then that of men. There is a reason the beauty industry for women is worth so much more, it’s because a natural woman is not desirable AT ALL by society, our ‘natural’ is actually very well groomed and prepped. I’ve seen my male friends point out ‘naturally beautiful’ women only to them inform them she has make up on, a few minor cosmetic proced…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/23 06:35 AM
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Well yes because good looking people bring something to the table, even if they are assholes. You are upset because someone who is ugly, bitter, spiteful, disrespectful etc isn’t having women throw themselves at them? Like ffs are women just toys for you to play with, do you really expect women to be around you when you do everything to repel them
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/23 06:30 AM
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Wait until you find out what men do to women… (Also most of what you mentioned are extremely rare outside of very turbulent relationships which are usually toxic from both directions- for example falsely accused, and physical assault- I usually see this professionally when BOTH people in the relationship have serious mental health issues. Being foodie called is something I’ve only seen online, IRL I don’t know anyone that does this)
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/23 06:28 AM
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I would say most women do want a nice man, that’s certainly the case in my relationship and the relationships of my peers. However, there is a subgroup of women with mental health issues and unfortunate backgrounds who do stay in very abusive relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/23 06:26 AM
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I have a partner and friends? Most of my friends are actually men (it’s about a 70:30 split)
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/23 06:22 AM
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How did you manage to turn that into an insult to virgin men. I’m saying women have to work hard to access good sex (aka a man willing to invest energy, learn about the female body, willing to take constructive feedback etc) because a lot of men will happily jackhammer you like a sex doll and then fuck off
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/23 06:21 AM
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Sorry can you rephrase, I’m not sure I understand what you are trying to say?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/23 06:20 AM
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I’m sorry if my comments were misconstrued, I’m not talking about extremes here (aka criminal activity). I’m talking about men who are just unpleasant to be around- wether that he they are like taking on the care of a child (constantly need to be taken care of), or emotional vampires (constantly down, needing to be mentally picked up, need constant emotional energy), or get angry/snappy at the smallest of things. There is a real give/take in a relationship, and certainly in my experience there a…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/23 06:18 AM
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I don’t believe all men are trash, the majority of my friends are men, my partner is a man
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/23 09:36 PM
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I’ve been in relationships where I realised post breakup I was significantly happier alone then when I was in the relationship, it could be for a multitude of reasons.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/23 09:36 PM
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And men orgasm significantly more then women during sex ‘shouldn’t women have the same possibility’. Sex is not the same for men and women. And of course women have to change and become competitive to get access to sex in which they actually get any enjoyment from it
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/23 09:35 PM
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Not a ‘gate keeping cry baby’, just pointing out why so many men are lonely. It’s because their company is worse
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/23 08:09 PM
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Lots of assumptions there, I would highly disagree, if anything id say I’m the opposite of neurotic in day to day life my job literally relies on my ability to be stable and remain calm
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/23 07:55 PM
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Does anyone support her 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/23 07:06 PM
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The fact you equate sex and romantic intimacy shows a bit part of the issue. They are two entirely different things
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/23 07:06 PM
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I’ve been on her dating apps, she’s useless. I live in a city, men can afford to be fussy
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/23 06:56 PM
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Of course we care about men who are our friends/family/partners, who see us as people. Who we don’t care about is spiteful, hateful men who refer to us as ‘holes’
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/23 06:49 PM
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Didn’t she literally traffic children?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/23 06:48 PM
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She recognises her flaws (she’s very very skinny and quite shy, doesn’t put herself out there enough) and doesn’t blame men for her loneliness, just pointing out she is lonely, women are too. She can’t be bothered to improve and so accepts she will continue to be alone. A lot of men on here seem to blame women for their lack of effort.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/23 06:48 PM
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And yet the men on here keep complaining that women won’t get with them, I very rarely seem women do the same
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/23 06:47 PM
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I’m currently in a very happy relationship with a man that this thread would shit on or tell me doesn’t exist (because he doesn’t fit the ‘chad’ stereotype)
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/23 06:45 PM
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Are we using pedophiles and abusers as the example here? Jesus, talk about jumping to weird straw man arguments
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/23 06:44 PM
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Being with a regular guy isn’t, but just look at the stats, regular guys to have sex/relationships (albeit not as many as they would like, but it does happen). Women constantly work hard to compete in the dating world, what I think is strange is that women doing this is so normalised that men don’t even think women are trying. It’s just expected.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/23 06:43 PM
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Of course men can improve, but just look at the comments in this post, they seem to much rather blame women rather then get to work on themselves
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/23 06:42 PM
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Her profile is all pics of her Glad we agree with point 2
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/23 02:59 PM
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I think if men understood that their presence can be worse then loneliness that women feel they may feel motivated to work out why… or just shit on women which is what most on here seem to do
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/23 02:59 PM
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Looks like someone needs to go to the gym, get a skin care routine and find a haircut/facial hair shape that suits them
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/23 02:57 PM
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That’s too much work, they want to sit in their bedrooms on the internet and moan why women aren’t flocking too them
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/23 02:56 PM
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If you choose to sit at home playing video games and watching porn whilst your female peers are out socialising with their friends it’s a self created problem. I don’t care about drug addicts doing more drugs or smokers getting lung cancer, I don’t see how I have to care about this. Yeah sure there are individuals with just shit luck (severe disability or disfigurement/illness) but they exist in women too. And I DO feel empathy for them for being dealt a shit hand. But the majority of lonely men…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/23 02:55 PM
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Thanks for the giggle, it’s sad how many comments read like this
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/23 02:52 PM
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1) I have female friends who never get likes on tinder, I talking 1 every few months (that isn’t a bot) 2) women can get a penis to cum in them pretty easily, that doesn’t equate to romantic intimacy
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/23 02:51 PM
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This is so fucking true, we need to start warning women about this, it took me too long to work out
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/23 02:50 PM
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Why should women put their own happiness to the side to be with a man they don’t want to be with… because that’s literally the only solution. There are also plenty of lonely women (the ratio of men and women on the planet isn’t that different, if men are single so are women) HOWEVER being with some men is WORSE then loneliness. Imagine that huh
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/23 02:47 PM
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Did I say I agree with any of those points you made? I don’t think the government is great at the ages they set certain limits to do things. And I would argue navigating a relationship is far more complicated then driving or voting. I don’t think 18 year olds should be sent to war, allowed to do OF or be charged for accessing education. My opinions actually come from the many relationships I’ve seen with this age gap essentially all of which the older person was exploiting the younger persons na…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/23 05:52 PM
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I absolutely love when my male friends get girlfriends HOWEVER I will voice concerns if an age gap is at a point where it’s weird (as in im concerned for the welfare of the girl). I’m at an age where big enough of an age gap is just using the naivety of someone who is essentially a child. It doesn’t come from a place of jealousy, I don’t want to date any of my friends, it comes from a place of either disgust or concern for the girl.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/23 07:08 AM
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Took me 2 years to find my current boyfriend, went on about 6 dates in that time. Essentially all the likes are just men mass swiping and wanting sex (if they even reply at all, mass swiping means a good chunk won’t), it’s pretty difficult to find someone wanting anything more.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/23 06:53 AM
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I mean if you are already depressed your sex drive can be pretty shit anyway
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/23 06:44 AM
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Tbf pills did work for me, went on for them for about 8 months, came off and continued to feel alright. Not to say it was the right thing to do, I think the healthcare system completely failed me by putting me on drugs before even asking why I was low or if I wanted therapy but it happened to work
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/23 06:42 AM
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Not everyone can afford therapy or access it (therapy in my country that was covered by healthcare was always during my working hours)
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/23 06:40 AM
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This was my issue with anti depressants, I was prescribed them within 5 minutes of meeting a doctor, not therapy or support was offered after that. I took myself off them about 7 months in, nobody has spoke to me since the day I started them
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/23 06:39 AM
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Agreed, what a man things is ‘low effort’ levels is actually a full beauty routine
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/23 05:20 AM
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How does the law discriminate against men? I don’t see men getting mandatory cheating tests? If the doubt is there, even slightly, just don’t have kids
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/23 09:09 PM
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I would consider them justified. If someone feels trust is required in a relationship that’s completely up to them, if I’m willing to ruin my long term health to create and deliver mine and my partners child the least he could do is trust me. If he doesn’t trust me he’s not the man I would to go through all of that for
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/23 06:38 PM
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I don’t understand?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/23 10:18 AM
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A small white lie does not make a relationship built on disrupt and lies :’) Lying about cheating does. (Although I actually can’t think of any lies of said in a relationship, there probably has been small white lies about someone’s appearance or something)
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/23 07:40 PM
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A relationship built on distrust and lies. Sounds healthy
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/23 07:23 PM
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Yeah and that’s why I don’t wanna get married
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/23 09:58 AM
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And accept the consequences aka she will leave you and you will be paying child support
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/23 09:54 AM
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My mates are average guys, earn average or below, average in looks/height/intelligence. My group in general probably skew more nerdy. But as I said we live in a capital city. You literally just admitted with maths a woman with those numbers would get 2 dates a month, a man 4. Im not sure why you think men therefore have it harder, it sounds relatively equal? All the stuff you explained men do my friends and I have done- asking them out, planning, escalating etc. you sound like you live in the pa…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/23 05:24 AM
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Yes, genuinely do. And the average woman has more like 50 matches a week (in a major western capital city, I would assume less if they lived in a town or somewhere rural) compared to say a man having 1 (although my male mates have more like 10-20 a week). I would say the ratio of wanted a date to fuck was about 1:100 on tinder (tinder is the worst for this). I would imagine for women it’s no where near that?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/23 09:09 AM
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In the circles he is in being Indian isn’t exactly a downside. Are his face and height that awful? Like there are ugly women too. I’ve met some short ugly people with girlfriends, there’s usually more too it then that.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/23 09:06 AM
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You are already discussing them in an above topic, you clearly just interpret them differently
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/23 02:47 PM
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The stats say otherwise
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/23 02:07 PM
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I work a job where I’m surrounded by very well educated people, many of my colleagues are Oxford grads in STEM subjects. Obviously there are exceptions, but to be as high achieving as you described from Oxford AND the fact he’s never even held hands with someone… it’s a pretty safe conclusion. If he had all those traits and was successful with women then probably not socially inept. But really, all that going for him and hasn’t even held someone’s hand. There must be something very wrong
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/23 02:03 PM
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20’s
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/23 02:03 AM
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I have
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/23 11:15 PM
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Can you show me the stats? The average is 50-60% on average, but I can’t seem to find a breakdown?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/23 10:58 PM
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Yes men father babies, are you picking at their use of language on an international platform when many people are using their 2nd/3rd language to converse in and it’s very clear what their message was?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/23 10:41 PM
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The financial/legal benefits of marriage have been gradually declining for a while now. Nothing a basic will wouldn’t sort out. I want children, still don’t see why it would benefit anyone to get married though?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/23 10:39 PM
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Can you show me the stats please? As I said, i live in a country where 60% of children are born to non married parents. 60% of children aren’t in poverty, abused etc
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/23 10:35 PM
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Probably in the future haha. Weird question, I will bite, why?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/23 10:19 PM
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I’m pro choice. Not my decision what someone else does with their body. You make the choice to shoot you sperm, she then has the choice to do what she wants with her body. Everyone gets a choice. See
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/23 10:14 PM
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You have the control to ‘make the shot’
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/23 10:11 PM
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No they don’t. In many countries in the western world 60% of children are born to unwed mothers. Unwed mothers isn’t the same as SINGLE mothers. Most unwed mothers are in stable, happy relationships, they just don’t have the government involved in their love life. Saying just because your parents are married you are for some reason more likely to live in poverty or suffer abuse or neglect is insanity. To claim ‘most’ is pure delusion.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/23 10:08 PM
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But what if we don’t want marriage, I’m a woman, I have no desire for marriage. What do I gain from marriage (I’m not religious so that aspect is gone). Surly the money would be better spent getting a mortgage?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/23 10:06 PM
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To have a baby?! I’ve got something to tell you about how the human race has lived on this long
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/23 10:04 PM
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You called me a bastard and my mum a ‘baby mumma’ which are two things I’ve never experienced before, took to stumbling across you for that to happen which shows how much of an extremist you are. Fair to say you shouldn’t insult peoples parents mate.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/23 10:03 PM
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I chose facts my friend. It is you that seems to be reacting with emotion, looking back with rose tinted glasses, all nostalgic. ‘The situation you brings kids into’ - what situation? In what way does the lives of children born to unmarried parents in any way differ to those with married parents. I genuinely can’t think of any way?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/23 09:01 PM
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Well yeah, nobody wants someone who is ugly/dumb/rude etc. that’s very common sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/23 08:25 PM
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Most modern western men are pretty unhealthy (as are women) so it would make sense why quite a few are low libido
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/23 08:13 PM
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I was attracted to their personality originally, and thought maybe I shouldn’t be shallow and should give it a go. Yeah I was wrong, I have never had my consent so disregarded and been so consistently insulted (I’m not sure if this was them trying to reduce my self image).
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/23 07:53 PM
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It wasn’t the birth control itself, it was coming off of it, it causes a very weird rebound impact to a lot of my hormones. Idk man, I’ve met a lot of men with a lower libido then what I experienced? Not all men have the same libido.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/23 07:49 PM
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It wasn’t always looks, although sometimes it was. Sometimes it was looks (ugly/fat), sometimes it was more social/behavioural (lower in class/education/wealth), sometimes are mix of both of those domains in various amounts.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/23 07:47 PM
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Quantity was less yeah, it was only a month. That’s why I said I could last a month. Any more would have got annoying, fast. I’ve had all different libidos due to various birth controls, I would say there is a really good level between where I am now and where I was in that weird month (although closer to where I am now, because i need to function). Being that distractible all the time must be a pain in the ass, I don’t envy it at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/23 07:42 PM
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No, I said about raising standards. When I dated down I always had bad experiences, dating at my level or up I tended to have better experiences.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/23 07:40 PM
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Yup, I’m now happily in a relationship with a man I would call my equal in most ways (I’m maybe physically a bit fitter). I’m very happy I stopped with the whole dating down bullshit as a way of finding loyalty and better treatment
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/23 07:23 PM
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I discussed it with my male friends and they are who suggested it sounded like exactly what they experienced as teens, just rather then the gradual increase in testosterone i essentially had my hormones flip in about 24-48 hours. So there was no time to gradually adapt, was a wild month until it settled down, I became very unproductive at work and in life in general for that month especially at the start with the initial shock. Thank fuck for vibrators, I got my moneys worth out of that. I’m ver…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/23 07:18 PM
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I was thinking either very very religious or very ghetto (or both).
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/23 07:05 PM
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I agree, but she should at least be respectful to others. Her comments are anything but respectful and seem to paint women who have children without being married as frankly idiots without a brain cell.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/23 06:37 PM
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Erm no ‘we’ don’t. ‘We’ aren’t some collective. Personally I want to have a baby with my partner in the future, I’m not particularly fussed about marriage (if anything he’s slightly more inclined to the idea of marriage then I am) so it’s not so he will marry me. It’s because I want to raise a family with him
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/23 06:33 PM
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Because we want to raise families with our partners? I mean not everyone wants children but lots of people do want to share a child (or multiple) and raise them with their partner. It’s a very common life wish for a lot of people, I’m surprised you have come across the concept of wanting a family before. Also it’s your lineage too?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/23 06:32 PM
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Imagine seeing everything going on in the world rn and thinking having a baby is what would be disrespecting Jesus…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/23 06:30 PM
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OP said ‘do they know they are going to be referred to as’, so it’s OP saying they will be called baby mumma, not actual people in these relationships who obviously don’t do that
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/23 06:29 PM
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Of course I agree. But I’m not really sure what this has to do with this discussion. A big percentage of babies conceived by couples are wanted babies, unmarried couples try for babies all the time!
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/23 06:20 PM
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I think OP maybe a very specific class and type of person to be throwing that term around.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/23 06:19 PM
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Hi. My parents didn’t get married until I was in my late teens. They were together 10 years before I was born. (About 50% of my friendship group growing up were in the same boat). I experienced NONE of what you seem to be worrying about. It sounds like something from the 1950’s. You just sound like a judgemental cunt. I wouldn’t even consider calling someone a ‘baby mamma’ who is literally in a relationship with the father of THEIR children, building a family together. It shows a lot about your …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/23 06:11 PM
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Erm she sounds like an average woman mate, I’m not sure what weird fantasy of women you have in your head
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/23 06:03 PM
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I’ve had periods of being really horny (like young man level horny) in the past when messing around with birth controls, I can manage a month. I’d be too busy wanking, being excited i can pee in loads of new places and getting to be physically stronger. Also it would be nice to not have a period for an extra month. I’m so down for this
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/23 05:56 PM
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Maybe I’m an extreme outlier. But I genuinely went for the same type of men in terms of personality, but just better looking and more successful (in terms of education and money).
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/23 05:42 PM
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Options for committed relationships, yes. Options for just sex, no (as in hell no, very wildly different).
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/23 05:06 PM
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Nope, usually it’s average men
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/23 04:58 PM
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The higher I’ve raised my standards the less shit men I seem to run into. The less wealthy, less attractive men I’ve dated were always the ones that acted the worst. So stop encouraging women to go for the lower rated men if they want loyal, happy relationships because that’s a fucking lie and I got hurt a lot because of that lie.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/23 04:57 PM
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I respectfully disagree
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/23 04:23 PM
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This is the bullshit I believed when I was younger. I’m glad I no longer believe it.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/23 04:22 PM
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I completely disagree. There are plenty of shit men who just want sex. I made the mistake early on in dating of believe the bullshit you are trying to sell right now. Go for a broke, ugly, fat man and he will want you for more then sex, he will commit. And yet the best I’ve been treated and the most loyalty I’ve had is from the men in my league. Not the ones below.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/23 04:20 PM
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I mean not life long but at least long term, you’ve implied you had a really high number of relationships, if the turn over is very high they clearly aren’t very good. You don’t walk away from things that are really good
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/23 04:19 PM
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This. I love spending time with my partner- we bounce of each other really well, we do loads of activities together, we have got each other into different hobbies and been able to try many new experiences together, we have travelled, we look after each other when we are having a bad day (physically or mentally), we have so many debates between ourselves and test each other intellectually, he’s massively opened up my world and I hope the same is true vice versa. How any of these men think women a…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/23 04:17 PM
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Aren’t you literally saying you only value women if they mother you?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/23 04:14 PM
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You have very wild ideas about what type of men the average woman has as ‘options’ :’)
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/23 04:00 PM
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Almost like you can’t just buy a girlfriend… I’ve met people like him, academics who are very high achievers from Oxford. They are usually autistic, with very very poor social skills, often come across as rude and/or arrogant. No amount of money will make up for someone just being bad at relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/23 03:21 PM
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Shut up, no you don’t, where tf do you live where this is true
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/23 01:37 PM
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It’s about what people believe, so 3 groups. Not what is actually right
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/23 01:37 PM
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You confident in your ability to predict the future, I’m not sure the stats will change. Cheating in your 20’s without a child is one thing, having the time to cheat whilst holding down a full time job and raising a family is a completely different ball game
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/23 01:31 PM
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No, it doesn’t. There’s: - it’s universally important, everyone should wait - it’s universally not important, you shouldn’t wait - the right thing to do depends on the individual
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/23 01:24 PM
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This is just as bad as all the stuff the men on here post (although it’s very funny reading the comments, a lot of hypocrites around).
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/23 12:50 PM
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I googled it, still says men. Guess you ignored my entire comment about why a woman may leave, the person leaving often isn’t the one who actually ended the relationship in terms of actions. So yeah it increases mens lives, that’s literally what you said. I am not married, i have a boyfriend, I have more important ways to spend my money then getting the government involved in my love life.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/23 12:46 PM
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You miss the third group which is most people who say ‘it’s a personal thing, depends on the person’
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/23 12:43 PM
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Who files for divorce has NO REFLECTION on who caused it. Men are more likely to cheat, that’s probably a bit reason more women file for divorce. Marriage is also a far worse deal for women, it literally reduces our lifespan whilst increasing our husbands. And women generally are more organised so maybe it’s just she was already the one doing everything in the relationship so it makes sense she does the divorce paperwork too. If sex is the only reason a man would commit to me I don’t want his co…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/23 12:38 PM
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So women should make themselves miserable for decades (or rush to marry someone early) just to spend money getting married? And therefore when they do have sex and it’s shit then have to pay for a divorce? That all seems a bit ridiculous?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/23 12:31 PM
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You can’t convince these people because how you describe a relationship isn’t what they experience, because they aren’t looking for or having relationships, they are just looking for ways to manipulate women into having sex with them.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/23 12:30 PM
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If you’ve been in ‘more than you have ever thought of’ you are obviously shit at relationships and shouldn’t be giving advice
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/23 12:28 PM
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Simply not true. A woman could get SEX in a day (if they said yes to literally anyone- including people who would happily beat them/give them an STI etc). But men gate-keep relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/23 12:24 PM
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I mean below average. Hence my examples of 5’6/7 in a country where 5’10 is average
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/23 12:22 PM
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And it’s really hard for women to get a relationship. And?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/23 12:21 PM
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They don’t? Wtf?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/23 12:20 PM
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Why someone does or doesn’t like someone has hundreds of variables (maybe even more), is this a serious question
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/23 12:20 PM
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Uk
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/23 12:19 PM
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I watch Aba and preach! And yeah if that’s the example you are using we are in very different dating pools. Like different continents. I’ve been on my guys friends hinge, as they have been on mine. Women gets loads of attention because it’s just men wanting sex. Which is essentially the same as what this video shows. Men will beg for sex, as I’ve said elsewhere, women gatekeep sex and men gate-keep relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/23 02:36 AM
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We clearly have completely different experiences. None of what you are talking about is what I see in my dating pool or in my friends/families/own dating life. We are probably just from different countries/cultures and therefore viewing different dating pools and therefore completely different behaviours
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/23 11:57 PM
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We clearly live in completely different countries and cultures. Where I live most couples walking down the street are just average people.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/23 11:52 PM
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I think to reduce such a complex topic down to ‘it’s because he’s short’ or ‘it’s because he’s ugly’ really doesn’t do the topic justice. Dating/relationships/attraction is just so multi factorial. I would apply the same logic to women. Outside of pathological/very extreme problems (for example someone only wanting to date supermodels or someone who had a very severe disability) the reason a man or woman is chronically single is multi factorial.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/23 11:49 PM
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I tend to find it only works when the man likes a woman more. Men are the gatekeepers of a relationship (women the gatekeepers of sex).
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/23 11:06 PM
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This is just fantasy. Get off the internet, go out to your local high street, look at the couples that walk past. There are plenty of ‘looksmatch’ partners, as well as plenty of couples where one partner is better looking.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/23 10:41 PM
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This is completely dependent on the specific relationship? As a woman I’ve certainly been the ‘adorer’ in about 60-65% of my relationships? Within the friends I know (both male and female) it’s a real scattering, no pattern really too it. Edit: I’ve just thought about it, maybe up that percentage a bit :’)
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/23 10:29 PM
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I’m not sure I understand your two bullet points? Could you explain them a little further? I would say in my experience to be in a relationship both men and woman are expected to uphold certain standards. Bedsides the absolutely genetically and socially blessed we all have somethings about us that are less desirable and then other parts to us that are more desirable, we are extremely complex in how that all balances. Different partners will put different values on those things too, which is why …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/23 10:23 PM
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The man I’m currently dating meets all your bullet points except he lives at home (as do I). Prior to me he’s had a very active dating life, a mix of casual sex and short term relationships with one longer term relationship. I’d point out we both have big friendship groups where a lot of the men are chronically single. Those that are chronically single generally don’t meet your bullet points and even my boyfriend admits it’s quite obvious why they struggle with women.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/23 10:08 PM
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I can guarantee there is more too it then being short (assuming they are not pathologically short) or ugly. I’ve got mates who are 5’6/7 who have girlfriends, I have a friend with facial disfigurement with girlfriends and some that are just objectively ugly with girlfriends. Outside of pathological levels of being short or ugly there is always something else too it.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/23 10:06 PM
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Successful career doesn’t mean works harder? In my friendship group about 50% of the women make more then their boyfriends/fiancés
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/23 11:59 AM
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If you are being pressured into sex to a point you feel you can’t say no that’s sexual assault/rape I can not feel sorry for men who are ‘pressured’ into children, because the children are the victims in this not them. They choose to have sex with a fertile woman, they need to give everything to the kid produced.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/23 11:02 PM
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Aren’t men the ones who usually propose? If he doesn’t want a wife then don’t propose, if he doesn’t want kids get a vasectomy
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/23 08:46 PM
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Who says the man has a more demanding job? I work in healthcare where most doctors and most nurses of reproductive age are now women. I would say we work fucking hard. Many of my friends work in STEM, law, accounting etc. do you think they didn’t grind to get where they are? And that therefore they should somehow payback when they raise kids? Get out in the real world. Women work just as hard as men, we grind and work for career progression too throughout our 20’s.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/23 08:42 PM
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I’m talking about real life, I’ve heard the claim you made plenty of times throughout my life. I’ve NEVER seen a scenario where it was a true reflection of what was actually happening. I’m sure they exist, they just aren’t common.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/23 08:35 PM
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Don’t think you should cheat, but I’ve certainly seen friends who ‘cheated’ when actually it was just their ex couldn’t accept the relationship ended
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/23 08:33 PM
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Hence ‘end the relationship’ isn’t as easy as just that.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/23 08:32 PM
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You will be shocked how many men just don’t accept break ups, let alone divorces.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/23 12:45 PM
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Also I hear the argument she ‘got fat and became a nagging bitch’ on paper, but I’m yet to see a man use this when 1) he hasn’t become fat himself, despite the fact a woman has far more reasons to have gained weight outside just diet and exercise (having their babies being one of those reasons) 2) the ‘nagging’ wasn’t his wife trying her best to communicate to save the marriage because he’s a lazy man child and him just ignoring it
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/23 12:41 PM
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Im generally lower libido on, but my preference for women does increase
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/23 11:03 AM
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Everyone’s posted studies so rather then repeat I will just speak of my own experience. On birth control I don’t want men at all, off birth control i do.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/23 08:57 PM
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I don’t think they are really a thing (always exception to the rue of course), there are so many easier ways to get free food. Also dates are expensive (travel, getting dressed up, makeup/shaving etc), it would be cheaper just to buy a cheap takeaway? Plus the time it takes. Just not worth it Personally I’m a woman in my mid 20’s, I’ve never done it. Most of my friends are in the same demographic, none of us have ever done it. Dates are so much effort, it would be cheaper and quicker to throw on…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/23 02:28 PM
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Harder challenges… with someone I love. No harder challenges with a stranger who I may not even be sexually compatible with
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/23 03:51 AM
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If you are already someone’s partner and committed that’s very different. But initially you are strangers, not partners, and if someone said to me we aren’t gonna have sex for 6 months id do a runner because for me sexual comparability is important. At that point you aren’t invested.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/23 01:45 AM
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1) I just don’t believe high libido men wait that long, those are low libido men or men who don’t think sex is important. If you are happy to wait 6 months we have fundamental differences in how we value sex
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/23 01:34 AM
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1) i mean if I (as a woman) are high libido I don’t want a low libido man that’s happy to wait 6 months for sex, sex is important to my relationships, if someone is willing to wait 6 months it’s clearly not important to them and therefore we have different values 2) yeah I’m certainly in the camp of my partner has set boundaries, and I have sex them for him too, they are very liberal boundaries tbf but they still exist.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/23 01:22 AM
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1) this will just weed out people you arent sexually compatible with if you yourself enjoy regular sex. If a man is willing to wait 6 months he’s probably low libido, aka we aren’t compatible 2) this is solid advice 3) again, solid advice 4) this depends how it’s dealt with, being protective of your partner and wanting them to yourself is natural, its how someone acts on it that determines if it’s a red flag or not.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/23 01:15 AM
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When men say ‘choose better’ they usually mean ‘why aren’t you sleeping with me’. Ignore it. Decide what YOUR personal deal breakers are, what you see as a red flag and stick to them. Learn from your mistakes, don’t repeat them. Have a good friend/sibling that you can openly talk to and bounce ideas of, when you meet someone new and talk about them don’t edit it- if you edit it question WHY you are editing (you are probably removing a red flag because you know what they will say). Be safe when y…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/23 12:21 AM
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We agree to disagree, clearly. On essentially everything you’ve said, that is not my experience as a woman and certainly not the experience of the women i know.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/23 11:43 PM
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What? Almost all women I know hate birth control side effects, we hate our libidos being suppressed and genuinely enjoy when we get them back (once we come off the hormones). Not sure what an attractive enough guy has to do with anything?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/23 09:23 PM
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We already take birth control that reduces our libido, i think A LOT of women would happily have their old libidos back.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/23 09:20 PM
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Use sex work. Don’t harm other people or waste their time (particularly as women have a body clock, don’t waste years of that body clock pretending to like them). It’s cruel. If 90% of your dates don’t split that’s on you. I’ve split 100% of first dates I’ve been on, most of my friends split too. I feel so fucking bad for your girlfriend, she is just living her life whilst you are playing some imaginary game and making her entire life a lie. I hope you are extremely young and not wasting her rep…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/23 09:51 AM
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And tricking someone into being in a relationship with you when you really only want them to be a flesh light isn’t?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/23 06:54 AM
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This sounds like brilliant advice
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/23 04:26 PM
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In the dating pool I’m in it certainly isn’t
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/23 04:22 PM
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^ this is a fact, although incredibly rare
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/23 04:17 PM
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That’s on you, dating apps have been great for me. Found someone I genuinely click with. I don’t have the time or money to meet someone organically (clearly you do if you had the time to sustain 10 conversations)
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/23 06:11 AM
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They also seem to under estimate the cost of socialising and underestimate the work hours young people now have to do just to pay rent. We do not have the money or time like our parents had at our age to meet a partner. We NEED dating apps.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/23 06:10 AM
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Yeah thats because the USA is anti-family and pro capitalism
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/23 02:01 AM
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I cant remember exactly but you get a set allowance at full pay, a set of time at reduced pay and then a set of time at no pay
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/23 08:37 PM
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Im European
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/23 07:38 PM
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The economy and cost of living is too high for a single earner household, im not rich I’ve never met a man who will clean and raise children to my standard I want to be a present figure in my future children’s life AND I want my partner to be too, you have two parents, you should get to see both! Having only one earner, particularly the woman, puts the relationship in a financially unsafe situation. If someone is made redundant or is long term sick and the other person has spent years out of the…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/23 06:29 PM
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Sorry if it comes across as us being ‘angry’ towards your hormones, I’ve never been angry without reason (sorry if other people are). I certainly have snapped before because of the amount of pressure that was put on me to have sex to meet others needs, when you are exhausted or in pain someone constantly asking for sex does make you snap. And sex when you don’t want it is frankly painful, it is hard to not get angry at someone making you feel guilty or pushing you to do something painful (it can…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/23 10:48 AM
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I know im so lucky! Had to kiss a lot of frogs first, don’t give up :)
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/23 06:38 PM
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Men literally cheat more often so this clearly isn’t true.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/23 06:36 PM
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Most are pretty settled now other then the ones with the lower body counts who starting dating late
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/23 06:35 PM
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If the woman is more invested then the man it won’t ever move past the ‘seeing’ stage to an actual relationship. I would argue the opposite is true
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/23 12:50 PM
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We both enjoy our work and get a lot of satisfaction from what we do. You said one parent should stop working, which would mean the other would need to increase their hours, hence having one present parent rather then two.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/23 12:40 PM
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Of course they do, I would consider myself very feminine and I split 50/50.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/23 12:36 PM
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If you are spewing every couple of hours for a sustained period of time you probably have HG and should be in hospital, this is not normal. Maybe it’s because you seem to be from the USA but in the uk we have occupational health who can make adaptations if needs be, for example as a doctor it’s common for women to stop doing night shifts in their third trimester. Why can’t you afford childcare? You have two full time wages, most developed countries have free childcare or subsidised childcare and…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/23 12:33 PM
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So what your implying is my partner should be a ‘wage slave’ so that I get to raise my (don’t you mean our) babies? Maybe I shouldn’t have kids because I expect their father to also parent then half the time? Grow up. Having two present parents is good for a child. It’s not ignorant, im a literal doctor, if a woman can’t work due to a physical or mental ailment a whole year post birth someone HAS gone very wrong. That’s is not the norm or even common as you implied in your comment. You’ve taken …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/23 12:30 PM
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That’s some rose tinted glasses right there, lots of shot gun weddings happened for a reason. You think everyone in the 60’s and 70’s was experimenting with drugs and not fucking? Considering there wasn’t any TV/video games etc for entertainment. Funny.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/23 12:20 PM
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They do where I live, even more so at train stations
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/23 12:16 PM
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Because they are holding hands +/- kissing
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/23 12:05 PM
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I mean retirement age realistically will be 67-75 by the time I retire, so I will have about 45-50 years of employment aka providing
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/23 12:05 PM
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Mid 20’s
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/23 11:58 AM
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We both shift work, so can work full time hours working 3 days a week (not that we currently do, we both shift work 5-6 days but we are saving for a house deposit). We would both drop down to 40 hours a week, 3 days a week, if we had kids. And if post partum physical health problems (bad enough to warrant not working) persist past 1 years maternity leave something has gone very fucking wrong A lot of women don’t want to work full time with kids because they do most of the work. The man I’m with …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/23 11:57 AM
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But what does that have to do with being able to provide? I have 45 years in the workforce, I will have maternity leave for about 2 of them (assuming I have the average of 2 children) and I get paid during my maternity leave. And you can work a full time job heavily pregnant, I’m a doctor and all my colleagues who have been pregnant work up until their due date normal and then take their year of maternity leave (I’m not in the USA). I’m confused why my partner would need to provide for me? I get…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/23 11:29 AM
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I do this too! But beard, not stubble
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/23 11:28 AM
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You might not notice, but they DO give you attention. I’ve had to point this out to some of my less attractive male friends when a girl has been checking them out or flirting with them, and they’ve already put her in the ‘so sexually unappealing she’s basically a man’ mental pile
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/23 11:27 AM
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To add to this, do you find you are exhausted after seeing them or can you just hang out doing nothing and still enjoy yourself
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/23 11:24 AM
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Just hands and arms in general. So many levels to this. With veins. Rolled up shirt.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/23 11:23 AM
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Tbh I’m an actual average woman with a very average friendship group between the ages of 22-26. The body counts do vary between 1-14. The average is around 4-5 which is where the majority of us sit.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/23 11:21 AM
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^ this. The way you deliver a compliment is everything. If it’s a throwaway comment to tick a box then don’t bother
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/23 11:19 AM
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What’s actually interesting is that you equate non traditional to mean high n count
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/23 11:09 AM
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I would say logical biological differences would include things that he can do better then me because of biology- so he’s physically more protective of me then I am of him for example. Or things I can do better or he can’t do at all, so if we have children I would take maternity leave for the full 12 months whilst he would just take a few weeks paternity leave because he can’t breastfeed and that initial period of bonding is important for childhood attachment. When it comes to earning money we c…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/23 11:03 AM
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Woman, mid 20’s. We split 50:50 because we earn about the same and have both have very similar financial goals/spending habits e.g. both saving to buy our own homes within the next year. ^ I got into this relationship after relationships where this wasn’t the case and men pushed to pay more, which I disliked, especially as they couldn’t afford it but would lie to me and pretend they could. And then end up borrowing money for me or not saving for our future. I don’t want flashy things, I want som…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/23 10:52 AM
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I’m not denying someone asked you what you do for a job, that’s a very standard question to ask someone
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/23 10:38 AM
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Sure because men under 6 foot are all single
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/23 08:55 AM
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A shocking amount of men do somehow date and have girlfriends. Being being obese is unattractive because: - it’s aesthetically ugly - they are limited in what they can do day to day (worse at chores, can’t do lots of active date ideas, issues with travelling) - HORRIFIC in bed due to a combination of their penis being eaten by their fat and lack of stamina - it shows a lack of self respect and self control - they are not a long term relationship prospect because they will just end up needed some…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/23 08:54 AM
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What is really happening is someone asks what you do to make conversations because they WANT to talk to you, you have a weird reaction and that’s when they stop wanting to be in your presence
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/23 08:52 AM
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If you work a normal 40 hour week then it literally is, because it’s what you spend most your time doing
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/23 08:50 AM
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It’s not ‘most girls his age’, get your head in a reality. For all the nerdy scrawny teenage boys not getting laid there are also loads of nerdy teenage girls not getting laid. But those nerdy girls are invisible to teenage boys too
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/23 08:49 AM
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Dating standards are completely fine ffs
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/23 08:48 AM
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And women, it’s a part of growing up
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/23 08:46 AM
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And yet if you stand in any random town centre you will see men off all sizes with girlfriends. The obese men might be with girlfriends you wouldn’t even consider as dating material, but they do have them.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/23 08:46 AM
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And 90% of women will never be a man’s ‘first choice’ but will work to at least try. It’s called living in reality? Not everyone is born genetically blessed and in good social circumstances. Doesn’t mean you can’t or won’t be loved. Statically women are more local then men, so it’s women that should be worrying about men cheating or running off for someone else not the other way around.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/23 08:45 AM
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We clearly grew up in different cultures
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/23 03:31 PM
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If he is such a fucking snowflake he gets upset if I ask what he spends a big chunk of his week doing then I don’t want to date or have sex with him. Is he embarrassed?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/23 01:42 PM
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So when her body count is 150 you are cool with that? Honestly women can’t win. Fuck everyone we are easy, but you are saying we should fuck random men we don’t even know? Also sexuality for most people doesn’t work like that, I need to know someone and fancy them to enjoy sex
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/23 01:41 PM
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We spend a significant chunk of our time at work and if you are in a career rather then a job it can actually say a lot about you. It’s a basic part of conversation for adults. This just sounds like you wanna fuck, and are complaining that women are trying to actually date. God forbid they want to know something about you rather then just what you look like
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/23 01:20 PM
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I disagree. I would say the sweet spot is early to mid 20’s. You have a better sense of self but still have growth that you can do with someone. You should develop a lot in that high school/college age, find yourself without having that identity wrapped up in someone else.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/23 12:49 PM
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‘Meant to’… says who? Why is that the ‘natural’ order. If it was natural then it’s what people would do without societal pressure. Except the opposite is true, society pressure and cultural expectation is the only reason a lot of people in history have slept with one person (allegedly).
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/23 12:46 PM
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He is asking you to clarify, sacrifice what?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/23 12:46 PM
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God if men stopped aging at 16-18 we would all be absolutely fuck. Boys don’t become men until around 25, that’s when you seem to really see that shift into being a man IF it even happens at all. If someone is the same at 18 and 25 then they haven’t grown enough
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/23 12:45 PM
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Yeah because people with lower numbers of partners generally come from cultures where divorce is not an option or is highly socially frowned upon
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/23 12:44 PM
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Came to make this comment, saw someone else beat me too it.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/23 12:19 PM
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I disagree. I live in a western country for context so maybe it’s different elsewhere, but ask most child or young people, most assume that if they want to settle down with someone they will be able to because that’s just something that happens. It’s rare for someone to see settling down with someone in life as a privilege only some people get. They just assume it will happen.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/23 12:11 PM
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I disagree. Like yeah I’m not thrilled that I’m not super rich with the body of a supermodel etc but actually I don’t dwell on it because I understand it’s a major privilege to be like that. I never expected to have that.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/23 12:10 PM
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You can be both a nerd and social/successful/good with women. In fact that’s exactly my, and a lot of women’s, type.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/23 05:58 PM
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It’s understandable, but as someone looking for a LTR I don’t particularly want to be tied to a dysfunctional family.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/23 11:23 AM
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Guys who live with their parents because they are saving a deposit are a MUCH better catch then those who are renting (because they can’t grit their teeth and live at home due to lack of patience, or because they have a dysfunctional family) and therefore will be part of generation rent forever.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/23 07:53 AM
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I would argue it’s a general pattern of the type of women OP specifically goes for. I’m a woman, the majority of my friends are women, I don’t know any like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/23 06:49 AM
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I’m comparing without, even just the basics like well cared for skin and well groomed hair (both facial and head hair). I don’t see how someone can (genuinely) be interested in relationships whilst being so rude on a date. They are lying to themselves if they actually believe that. I would say 80% of my dates have been men I genuinely find attractive, and maybe 20% I don’t. The 3 worst dates I have ever been on, as in ones I left early, were in the 20%. The worst 3 highlights being- calling me f…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/23 06:35 AM
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According to objective, measurable standards. Less physically fit (fatter, gym less if at all. Clearly don’t take care of their skin/hair/appearance), lazier (shittier jobs, significantly poorer), less intelligent (I went on one date and saw the dunning-Kruger effect as someone who only finished high school tried to explain a topic to me because I was ‘wrong’… I have post graduate qualifications in it).
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/23 06:11 AM
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You used the word subhuman and sisterhood, how do I possibly replied if you are this far down a rabbit hole
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/23 06:01 AM
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I’ve been on plenty of dates with guys that were not attractive because I bought into the lie that the men I was dating only want sex because they are good looking. Some of the most disrespectful, rude, degrading men I have been on dates with were ugly and below my league.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/23 05:54 AM
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There are of course huge gaps, but you only need to share something, you can have your own interests that your partner only listens to because they like you. I would agree, women process their day by talking about it, and to that i would advise any man in a relationship to just give her those 10-15 minutes in the evening to ‘de-brief’. Let her talk about something she’s excited about or sad about, or something that made her angry. It’s your partner, you should be interested not because of the su…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/23 05:48 AM
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I think that’s just a combination of sample bias and that being an asshole to date doesn’t make you an asshole as a person Dude you sound paranoid and delusional. I don’t even know how to unpick your last few sentences because of their lack of root in reality
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/23 05:42 AM
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Says who? I think the stigmatisation is when men MOAN about their girlfriend not giving set or pressure them or expect them to change. If from the start you are like nah we don’t match that’s not an issue
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/23 04:43 AM
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I feel the same about a lot of men I’ve seen. That’s why we date, to find someone we are compatible with. Currently I’m with someone that has similar interests, although not the same. Similar enough we get excited about what the other is talking about or at least understand the basics enough to let them nerd out. I’m interested because I give a shit about him and he gives a shit about his interests therefore by extension I do too! He finally is someone who listens to me (and actually listens and…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/23 04:39 AM
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I would say it’s more looking for a pattern. Generally people aren’t assholes. I would apply the same logic to if a friend (male or female) said something like ‘all my ex’s were crazy’. If that’s what most of your experiences are like, when actually a big proportion of people are quite respectful kind individuals, then it speaks volumes about who you are or your choices in who you spend your time with
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/23 04:32 AM
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If you are continuously not shown respect it says something about how you respect others
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/23 04:28 AM
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Reading the comments it seems like men jump to ‘gold digger’ as a way to emotionally protect themselves or something. Someone asking what job you do doesn’t mean they want to steal your money, newflash women (particularly pre babies) often earn a similar amount to men.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/23 04:26 AM
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You think that because you date women, and don’t have to date men. If you enjoy AI more it’s clear what type of person you are when it comes to compromise, stick with the AI.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/23 04:25 AM
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I disagree. I’ve wasted too much time going on dates with people who are good at the small talk, but when it comes to it our lives are completely incompatible. It’s not about being a good ‘wallet’, I earn enough money to be able to support myself, but if you are struggling to pay your bills and I’m off travelling around the world that’s not a compatible long term relationship
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/23 04:23 AM
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This isn’t my experience at all, this is a lie men sell.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/23 03:38 AM
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That’s nuts, yeah you are in a wealthy area and a different country to me
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/23 06:16 PM
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If they have equal/close to equal joint custody they aren’t a single parent. If they are just getting child support, but actually raising the child on their own they are
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/23 05:55 PM
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If you have a co-parent then you aren’t a single parent… there are two of you parenting
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/23 04:18 PM
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Amen.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/23 03:36 PM
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Where I live it’s imposible to be a single parent that can both provide structure and be financially strong. Cost of living is high. If you are financially strong as a single parents it’s mostly likely because your children never see you, and if you do have structure and are raising your children then you won’t be financially strong
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/23 03:36 PM
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I disagree. I have a number of friends and relatives who very much benefitted from their step parents presence in their lives.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/23 02:29 PM
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So for example in my average week I go to work, gym, salsa class, and then if I go out it’s usually to a bar or restaurant or hanging out at someone’s home or in the park. Then I guess the rest of my free time is spent on holidays or one off activities (mini golf, beach, library, cafe)
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/23 02:27 PM
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They don’t?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/23 02:26 PM
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Most people have kids IN a relationship and become single once the man leaves. You can’t abort a 6 year old or whatever, that’s murder
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/23 02:24 PM
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I tried this theory, ended up just meeting ugly men who just wanted sex. If men I meet are going to just want sex what’s the point in going for the ugly ones.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/23 02:05 PM
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But it’s near impossible to work out who those men are
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/23 02:04 PM
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It’s not a man’s ‘ability to provide’, it’s about not wanting to take on a financial burden. If I wanted a dependant I’d have a child
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/23 09:48 AM
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I live in a white country and I am white, so of course my preference is for someone from the same background
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/23 06:50 PM
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You first sentence is kinda ridiculous… have you seen domestic abuse statistics. It’s common enough that the odds aren’t in someone’s head
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/23 07:09 PM
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Men get desperate easier. As I said, I’m happier alone then in a shitty situation. I’d rather have no sex then bad sex
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/23 11:09 PM
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Don’t be sensible, he clearly can’t comprehend that
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/23 08:48 PM
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He’s exactly what I want and I leave every date with him in cloud 9
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/23 08:10 PM
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I mean women still have a sex drive, this might blow your mind but they do. I have said yes to every date a man has ever asked me on, can’t help it if majority of men who bother asking women on dates are the cocky assholes. I was sexually frustrated and I picked from this options I had, if the lovely man I’m with now had come along earlier it would have been him rather then any of the guys before. The 2 I actually slept with (and they were never ONS) were decent guys, more ‘chad’ then the curren…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/23 08:09 PM
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Not the men i go on dates with, I plan maybe 30% of the dates and about 30% are mutually planned. I also always pay half. I agree, it’s not close at all
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/23 07:38 PM
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On a date the average woman will do her hair, makeup, put a lot of thought into what she is going to wear (and usually actually dress for her shape), shave/wax everywhere. There is a reason women take longer to get ready, because they generally put more effort in.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/23 07:24 PM
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That’s the aim
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/23 07:21 PM
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Again- showering, cheap cologne and the ability to get dress is not basic effort.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/23 07:03 PM
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Nah the ones I slept with were alright guys
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/23 07:02 PM
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20 dates, slept with 2 who were the nicest of the bunch and were more in the grey area. The obvious cunts I did not sleep with haha
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/23 07:02 PM
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Basic effort isn’t just washing your hair and talking to people -_- that’s why we clearly disagree
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/23 06:55 PM
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Under 6 foot, not particularly fit in his physique but active (probably BMI overweight), nerdy (think action figures, DnD level), middle class job, average in bed. I would say very very average in terms of the stats men seem to look at. But he’s romantic, kind, intelligent, we have a similar sense of humour. I could spend hours watching him nerd out over his passions. I’ve been on 20+ dates with guys who are physically a lot fitter, earn a lot more (the few I did sleep with were better in bed wi…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/23 06:31 PM
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It’s not about a ‘genetic lottery’ for a big number of incels. It’s about BASIC effort. Hygiene, gym, work ethic and subsequently a decent job are all things that can make a huge difference and a shocking number of men don’t do (and then complain nobody wants them). Sometimes it’s just shit genetics like being 5’4, or having a clapped face (and can’t grow a beard to hide that). But that’s not a majority
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/23 06:26 PM
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Except ‘chad’ when described seems to be exactly the sort of asshole that wouldn’t make it past date 1. I’m currently on date 9 ish with someone and it’s the sort of person this ridiculous sub would immediately discount
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/23 06:25 PM
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I guess the way as a woman I look at this is in my experience the average man I go on dates with will make me LESS happy then being alone. They are more of a burden then they are a neutral or positive thing in my life. Which is why I’ve generally not been someone who goes on more then 2 dates with someone
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/23 06:13 PM
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Accept it? They are angry af and blame women for being unrealistic and not wanting to be with them… when they are a group that literally hate women.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/23 06:11 PM
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I completely agree. For men and women there is no ‘normal’ and as long as its not criminal it’s probably okay
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/23 02:01 PM
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I guess what we see as ‘being a gentleman’ is personal. I’m head over hills right now for a man i consider to be a ‘gentleman’
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/23 10:31 PM
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Arrogant is assuming they want you, confidence is allowing yourself to consider they might be interested and therefore trying to see if they are (and gracious accepting if they aren’t without then being horrible). At least that’s how I interpret the meaning of those words in this scenario, I’m not sure if that’s clear?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/23 07:26 PM
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About 1/4 of the girls in my friendship group lost their virginity or had their first relationship with an older man. Looking back essentially in all of these encounters the older man used the naivety, lack of experience and general inability to stand up for yourself at a young age to their advantage for mostly sexual activities but also a few pushed into isolating them as well. Some were raped as per law due to the age gaps, when it was a legal age gap there was a lot of issues around being pre…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/23 11:06 AM
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Arrogance is one of the key things that can kill ‘the spark’… it’s what the TikTok generation call an ‘ick’. Confidence is okay, arrogance is not
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/23 09:57 AM
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Nope. The spark doesn’t happen like that. I don’t feel ir with objectively fucking good looking dates who on paper are perfect, but can feel it with guys who objectively are not good looking.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/23 09:56 AM
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Annoyingly happened to me, took 3 years to finally leave him
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/23 09:56 AM
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This is a very nuanced topic. Men are BOTH of these things, often men are the predators that other men are protecting from. I’ve had my drink spiked on nights out, it was male friends who got me home safe. I’ve had a man grab me in a club and wouldn’t let go, it was male friends who confronted him. Even unintentionally I find a lot of men back off if a male friend comes to join me at the bar. The predator may always be male but the protector for me with my friends being skewed male is also often…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/23 09:47 AM
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I mean they do, we see it all the time
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/23 09:43 AM
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It’s not a ‘game’, women are people ffs. But yes, people have preferences. And if you would like to find a partner self improvement is a good thing. Hell self improvement is a good think even if you don’t want to ever date! In the periods of life I’m not dating I’m constantly pushing for self improvement, the fact that other people have to be told to do this or have the end goal of getting laid or winning a ‘game’ just to self improve is probably why I hate dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/23 09:42 AM
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Well this is fucking sad, and why so many women don’t date.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/23 09:40 AM
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Surly that completely depends on the individuals in the relationship and where they lie on the spectrum. Some people are more traditional, so it would make sense they date in a traditional way. Where as I tend to have a more ‘modern’ dating style because I am more modern and I want a more modern set up from a long term relationship. However I still ‘court’ and expect a level of chivalry because I expect people in my life to be respectful, kind people. The same way I am respectful and kind to the…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/23 11:15 AM
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Calm down
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/23 07:15 AM
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For looks yes, for everything else no. Casual sex all you want is someone who can turn you on and be good in bed. In a partner you want A LOT more
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/23 07:46 PM
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Firstly, most people on TikTok are girls, not women. Secondly, it’s TikTok lol Thirdly, they are saying it in jest
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/23 07:45 PM
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