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| 1 | A man who demands that his partner stops using sex toys is accused of everything from being insecure about his size to being an abusive partner, yet women who police their partners use of porn are seen as reasonable, proactive, and victims in the situation. Why?. I do not consider it to be normal to prefer having sex with a piece of plastic dildo, than with your own partner. That is not what I quoted. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/09/21 09:15 AM |
| 1 | Why should a woman choose to date a man she knows is using porn?Perhaps. I'm simply observing how the discourse has reversed completely. Your viewpoint is now the minority. Men now insist that women are shallow and only care about looks (notice how women are "shallow" while men are "visual"?) and blackpill dudes are obsessed with looksmaxing and facial aesthetics, having a chad jaw etc. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/09/21 09:28 PM |
| 1 | A man who demands that his partner stops using sex toys is accused of everything from being insecure about his size to being an abusive partner, yet women who police their partners use of porn are seen as reasonable, proactive, and victims in the situation. Why?Rape and murder by who? Other men going to war. They "protect" their own women while raping the other side's women. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/09/21 02:42 PM |
| 2 | Why should a woman choose to date a man she knows is using porn?Not OP but I just find it physically repulsive. Just like guys hate the idea of their gf being a "slut". It's just extremely unattractive. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/09/21 02:39 PM |
| 1 | Why should a woman choose to date a man she knows is using porn?Whereas women aren't as visually stimulated on average. The current belief is the opposite, that women are shallow and only want 10/10 hot guys. "Women aren't visual" was the popular argument like 7 years ago, it has now been replaced by the idea that women only care about looks. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/09/21 02:32 PM |
| 0 | Why should a woman choose to date a man she knows is using porn?And if you watch porn you better not slut-shame. Men who consume products of the sex industry don't have the right to moralize about women's sexual behaviour. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/09/21 02:27 PM |
| 1 | Why should a woman choose to date a man she knows is using porn?How are you defending porn but using "whore" and "hookers" as insults? Why do you defend the sex industry but condemn sex workers? Why are sex workers worthy of shame but not the men who consume their product? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/09/21 02:08 PM |
| 1 | A man who demands that his partner stops using sex toys is accused of everything from being insecure about his size to being an abusive partner, yet women who police their partners use of porn are seen as reasonable, proactive, and victims in the situation. Why?Men go to war to rape and kill for fun. Rape and pillage, that's the point of war. That you expect sympathy from women for being evil sadistic beasts is astounding. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/09/21 01:53 PM |
| 2 | A man who demands that his partner stops using sex toys is accused of everything from being insecure about his size to being an abusive partner, yet women who police their partners use of porn are seen as reasonable, proactive, and victims in the situation. Why?civilian | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/09/21 01:41 PM |
| 3 | A man who demands that his partner stops using sex toys is accused of everything from being insecure about his size to being an abusive partner, yet women who police their partners use of porn are seen as reasonable, proactive, and victims in the situation. Why?Women get killed too, after they're raped. War is literally an excuse for men to rape and kill for lolz and you're telling me they're the victims. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/09/21 01:38 PM |
| 2 | A man who demands that his partner stops using sex toys is accused of everything from being insecure about his size to being an abusive partner, yet women who police their partners use of porn are seen as reasonable, proactive, and victims in the situation. Why?We were talking about war, which rape is obviously a huge part of. The civilian women and children who are raped and tortured by male combatants are the victims of war. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/09/21 01:36 PM |
| 1 | A man who demands that his partner stops using sex toys is accused of everything from being insecure about his size to being an abusive partner, yet women who police their partners use of porn are seen as reasonable, proactive, and victims in the situation. Why?They are such men | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/09/21 01:31 PM |
| 0 | A man who demands that his partner stops using sex toys is accused of everything from being insecure about his size to being an abusive partner, yet women who police their partners use of porn are seen as reasonable, proactive, and victims in the situation. Why?Of a completely different nature. Objects vs people. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/09/21 12:48 PM |
| 3 | A man who demands that his partner stops using sex toys is accused of everything from being insecure about his size to being an abusive partner, yet women who police their partners use of porn are seen as reasonable, proactive, and victims in the situation. Why?women reflect on how our partners are the real victims of war. Not your partners but rather the women/girls you rape and kill during war. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/09/21 12:45 PM |
| 1 | A man who demands that his partner stops using sex toys is accused of everything from being insecure about his size to being an abusive partner, yet women who police their partners use of porn are seen as reasonable, proactive, and victims in the situation. Why?Certainly | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/09/21 12:44 PM |
| 1 | A man who demands that his partner stops using sex toys is accused of everything from being insecure about his size to being an abusive partner, yet women who police their partners use of porn are seen as reasonable, proactive, and victims in the situation. Why?Literally no one gives a shit about men using fleshlights. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/09/21 12:41 PM |
| 2 | A man who demands that his partner stops using sex toys is accused of everything from being insecure about his size to being an abusive partner, yet women who police their partners use of porn are seen as reasonable, proactive, and victims in the situation. Why?Other way around. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/09/21 12:40 PM |
| 1 | A man who demands that his partner stops using sex toys is accused of everything from being insecure about his size to being an abusive partner, yet women who police their partners use of porn are seen as reasonable, proactive, and victims in the situation. Why?And then she can just say your brother/best friend. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/09/21 12:39 PM |
| 2 | A man who demands that his partner stops using sex toys is accused of everything from being insecure about his size to being an abusive partner, yet women who police their partners use of porn are seen as reasonable, proactive, and victims in the situation. Why?The sex toy is irrelevant to this scenario, you're comparing imagination with porn. If they are no different then why do men watch porn. Porn is more stimulating. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/09/21 12:37 PM |
| 1 | A man who demands that his partner stops using sex toys is accused of everything from being insecure about his size to being an abusive partner, yet women who police their partners use of porn are seen as reasonable, proactive, and victims in the situation. Why?Very debatable. I personally have never seen such a man. incels. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/09/21 12:27 PM |
| 0 | A man who demands that his partner stops using sex toys is accused of everything from being insecure about his size to being an abusive partner, yet women who police their partners use of porn are seen as reasonable, proactive, and victims in the situation. Why?The ones that call themselves incels. They choose porn over sex. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/09/21 12:25 PM |
| 0 | A man who demands that his partner stops using sex toys is accused of everything from being insecure about his size to being an abusive partner, yet women who police their partners use of porn are seen as reasonable, proactive, and victims in the situation. Why?It's in her "nature" to be jealous just as it's in yours to lust at other women. She made me feel inadequate cause I enjoyed the beauty of other women as much as I enjoyed her. She made me feel like a failure cause she wasn’t all I needed. She wasn’t enough for me. You're making her feel inadequate. How would you like to hear that you aren't enough for her? That she enjoys other men just as much as you? Why do you think she needs to hear about you "enjoying the beauty of other women" etc? It sou… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/09/21 12:19 PM |
| 0 | A man who demands that his partner stops using sex toys is accused of everything from being insecure about his size to being an abusive partner, yet women who police their partners use of porn are seen as reasonable, proactive, and victims in the situation. Why?On the other had men are extremely punitive about women being involved in any type of porn. Women who do Only Fans are severely chastised by men. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/09/21 12:03 PM |
| 2 | A man who demands that his partner stops using sex toys is accused of everything from being insecure about his size to being an abusive partner, yet women who police their partners use of porn are seen as reasonable, proactive, and victims in the situation. Why?Would you feel better about her fapping to vids of hot men? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/09/21 12:00 PM |
| 3 | A man who demands that his partner stops using sex toys is accused of everything from being insecure about his size to being an abusive partner, yet women who police their partners use of porn are seen as reasonable, proactive, and victims in the situation. Why?but I would even prefer my partner cheat on me with a real person, than just a piece of plastic. This is not psychologically normal. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/09/21 11:58 AM |
| 4 | A man who demands that his partner stops using sex toys is accused of everything from being insecure about his size to being an abusive partner, yet women who police their partners use of porn are seen as reasonable, proactive, and victims in the situation. Why?As always, "ITT" = comments you have imagined and that no one has actually written | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/09/21 11:56 AM |
| 0 | A man who demands that his partner stops using sex toys is accused of everything from being insecure about his size to being an abusive partner, yet women who police their partners use of porn are seen as reasonable, proactive, and victims in the situation. Why?The social commentary is different because porn is a different thing from sex toys. They are literally completely different things. Why would they be treated the same? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/09/21 11:53 AM |
| 0 | A man who demands that his partner stops using sex toys is accused of everything from being insecure about his size to being an abusive partner, yet women who police their partners use of porn are seen as reasonable, proactive, and victims in the situation. Why?porn and sex toys aren't the same thing. Toys are inanimate objects, porn is real people. Women aren't attracted to sex toys, men are attracted to porn stars. They are being aroused by other women, hence the jealousy. yet women who police their partners use of porn are seen as reasonable, proactive, and victims in the situation Literally not a thing, women who object to porn are seen as crazy and insecure. "pornsick" is fringe radfem language. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/09/21 11:51 AM |
| 1 | What’s more difficult? A man becoming “high value” or a woman becoming “high value”plenty of unattractive/average guys have gfs why can't these women find partners Why can't girlfriends find partners? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/08/21 09:26 PM |
| 2 | What’s more difficult? A man becoming “high value” or a woman becoming “high value”All women say this. And many mean it. As I said, plenty of unattractive/average guys have gfs. But they also tend to be average/unattractive, therefore you disregard them. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/08/21 08:50 AM |
| – | What’s more difficult? A man becoming “high value” or a woman becoming “high value”Come on, BBW is a niche fetish. The vast majority of girls in porn are thin and attractive. To claim otherwise indicates an extremely warped standard of female attractiveness. You appear not to have read/understood most of what I wrote so I don't see much point in responding. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/08/21 06:15 PM |
| – | What’s more difficult? A man becoming “high value” or a woman becoming “high value”"Incels" aren't real. You're just guys - some ugly, some average, some even attractive - who don't want women in their own league. You're conditioned by porn to only want 8+/10s, and you choose celibacy over anything less. The top 10% of women are "all women" to you, and when they go for guys in their own league you accuse "all women" of wanting Chads. "Incel" King Elliot Rodgers was above average looking and rich but choose murder-suicide over dating someone who wasn't a 10/10 white blonde soro… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/08/21 05:32 PM |
| 3 | What’s more difficult? A man becoming “high value” or a woman becoming “high value”That's all you have to do to be attractive if you're naturally attractive. Losing weight won't give you attractive facial features. And what about "the wall"? Once women reach their late 20s it's game over, according to men. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/08/21 01:02 PM |
| – | What’s more difficult? A man becoming “high value” or a woman becoming “high value”This is an outdate perception reflective of Reddit like 10-15 years ago. Everyone is on the internet now and Reddit is basically the main content aggregate/discussion site. Of course people wouldn't say these things to someone in front of them, because it's not socially acceptable. The internet reflects how people really think and feel. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/08/21 12:27 PM |
| – | What’s more difficult? A man becoming “high value” or a woman becoming “high value”It is. The internet is just people saying what they really think. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/08/21 10:33 AM |
| – | What’s more difficult? A man becoming “high value” or a woman becoming “high value”She has to have good facial features and be young. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/08/21 10:29 AM |
| – | What’s more difficult? A man becoming “high value” or a woman becoming “high value”Your issue is that you are only interested in attractive women, who date attractive men. OP says she only wants a guy "to be taller than me, kind, with good teeth and smart" - but you observe that this isn't sufficient for attractive women therefore "women" are lying. But in reality, you just aren't interested in women with lower standards, because they tend to be less attractive themselves. People generally date others on the same level of attractiveness, but guys like you fixate on attractive … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/08/21 10:27 AM |
| – | What’s more difficult? A man becoming “high value” or a woman becoming “high value”You can't control your youth and looks, which is men's real criteria for women. You can improve your appearance to an extent, but not significantly without surgery. And even if you do, guys will still lose interest once "hit the wall". You can't fight time. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/08/21 10:18 AM |
| 0 | What’s more difficult? A man becoming “high value” or a woman becoming “high value”Yeah, all men want is a harem of hot 18-23 year olds who are virgins yet also with porn star skills and compliant with your every demand, is that so much to ask? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/08/21 10:13 AM |
| – | What’s more difficult? A man becoming “high value” or a woman becoming “high value”don't be over 25 Seriously why do men pretend that the wall doesn't exist in this discussion when the rest of the time you're constantly telling women that no one wants them after their mid 20s? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/08/21 10:11 AM |
| – | What’s more difficult? A man becoming “high value” or a woman becoming “high value”By then all the men of that same age range are looking at 25yolds and not exactly interested in an equally workaholic woman their same age. There aren't enough women in their 20s to go around. If men don't want women their age, most of those men are going to end up alone. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/08/21 10:09 AM |
| – | What’s more difficult? A man becoming “high value” or a woman becoming “high value”Not really, a woman does not improve her value one iota (some would say it actually diminishes it) if she invests in education and climbing up the social ladder Yeah but she has to be young and attractive. The fact that she can't improve her value through education etc simply proves the point that it's harder (or impossible) for women to improve their value. For a man to be high value he has to be born with the right genes, good looks good health, then he has to put in the effort to be physicall… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/08/21 10:04 AM |
| – | What’s more difficult? A man becoming “high value” or a woman becoming “high value”You can't become a high value woman. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/08/21 09:58 AM |
| – | What’s more difficult? A man becoming “high value” or a woman becoming “high value”So men don't want women over 30, and you don't want girls who party in their 20s. You're limiting yourself to a very small pool of women. Men on this sub claim dating is harder for men, when in reality you're just extremely picky. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/08/21 09:57 AM |
| – | What’s more difficult? A man becoming “high value” or a woman becoming “high value”The difference is that there are far more people over 30 than under it. About 85% of people are over 30. So, most women are unwanted by men, and most men are unwanted by the minority of young women they're competing for. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/08/21 09:47 AM |
| – | What’s more difficult? A man becoming “high value” or a woman becoming “high value”Why would any woman waste her youth just to get half someone's shit when she could be enjoying herself, building her own career and making her own money? Why let a man suck the life out of you and discard you? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/08/21 09:43 AM |
| – | What’s more difficult? A man becoming “high value” or a woman becoming “high value”You're going to turn 33 anyway, and then the "good man" will lose interest. You can't "lock down" attraction. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/08/21 09:36 AM |
| – | What’s more difficult? A man becoming “high value” or a woman becoming “high value”Not even attractive women are treated with the same respect as the average guy. The "treatment ugly guys receive" - what treatment, you mean 10/10s not fucking them? Back in the day an ugly guy would either date an ugly woman or accept bachelorhood as a choice. Porn has now bred a sense of entitlement to the most attractive women. Men are conditioned to only be attracted to 8+/10s. Unattractive men are incapable of being aroused by women on their own level. Consequently you are all competing for… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/08/21 09:35 AM |
| – | What’s more difficult? A man becoming “high value” or a woman becoming “high value”You say all this but you probably wouldn't look at her twice irl. Ugly women don't live like ugly men. Not even attractive women have the same worth as ugly men. Men's worth isn't defined by their attractiveness to women. Not being handed chad on a silver platter? Men are fixated on Chads because these are the men that Staceys date, and these are only women you want. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/08/21 09:20 AM |
| – | What’s more difficult? A man becoming “high value” or a woman becoming “high value”So why is the approximate rate of twenty something virginity 2-3 times higher for men? It is? What country? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/08/21 09:09 AM |
| – | What’s more difficult? A man becoming “high value” or a woman becoming “high value”LMAO. What "documented reality" are you referring to?? Please explain to me how oh so horribly you so called "femcels" have been treated because the Chad you matched with on Tinder ghosted you after the first date. Ask the same about incels being ignored by Staceys. If women hit the wall at 25-30 then 85-90% are unattractive to men. That's the "documented reality". The literal ugliest female in the world literally has a successful youtube channel where she probably makes more money in a month th… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/08/21 08:50 AM |
| – | What’s more difficult? A man becoming “high value” or a woman becoming “high value”Ugly women are mostly just ignored by men. They aren't "creep shamed" because they don't do the creepy shit that men do. They just accept their fate as invisible/undesirable to men. Ugly men write about how they want to rape and kill women because Staceys won't date them. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/08/21 08:49 AM |
| – | What’s more difficult? A man becoming “high value” or a woman becoming “high value”Other way around. Men call fat women pigs and landwhales all the time. Women don't say anything comparable about fat men. At worst they just ignore them. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/08/21 08:40 AM |
| – | What’s more difficult? A man becoming “high value” or a woman becoming “high value”It's easier for women to become a high value woman It's easy to become young and beautiful? How? By halting/reversing time and altering your genetic code? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/08/21 08:39 AM |
| – | What’s more difficult? A man becoming “high value” or a woman becoming “high value”Goes both ways. Men with high n counts are desensitized. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/08/21 08:31 AM |
| – | What’s more difficult? A man becoming “high value” or a woman becoming “high value”You'll still get old. Why would you get married if your husband is going to stop being attracted to you in your mid 20s? What's the point? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/08/21 08:28 AM |
| – | What’s more difficult? A man becoming “high value” or a woman becoming “high value”don't age over 25 | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/08/21 08:28 AM |
| – | What’s more difficult? A man becoming “high value” or a woman becoming “high value”How is pointing out that men are equally obese defending obesity? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/08/21 08:27 AM |
| – | What’s more difficult? A man becoming “high value” or a woman becoming “high value”And 20 was the lowest age in the study. They'd prefer younger if that was an option. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/08/21 08:26 AM |
| – | What’s more difficult? A man becoming “high value” or a woman becoming “high value”We know | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/08/21 08:25 AM |
| – | What’s more difficult? A man becoming “high value” or a woman becoming “high value”That won't stop the wall | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/08/21 08:24 AM |
| – | What’s more difficult? A man becoming “high value” or a woman becoming “high value”Women have a lot more options in terms of sustainability or at least maintaining the illusion. You mean surgery? Doesn't really work. You can't stop age. It's harder for men to do both considering that one misstep can tarnish a man's career and reputation while women can simply move on and find a new man Not if we're talking 30+. A man can recover his career/reputation whereas a woman's "career" is over as it were. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/08/21 08:23 AM |
| – | What’s more difficult? A man becoming “high value” or a woman becoming “high value”Well, women's "value" according to RP is determined primarily by looks and youth, so it's not a question of "becoming" HV - you either are or you aren't - and only for about 5-7 years of your life. This is why I never really understood RPW. There's no "self-improvement" aspect for women. You're either hot or you're not, and then you hit the wall at 25. Women's value to men is so fleeting as to not be worth concerning themselves with. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/08/21 08:18 AM |
| 1 | Discussion: top 20%Why are only childless under 40 women relevant, when as many men are over 40 and have fathered children? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/05/21 07:41 PM |
| 1 | Discussion: top 20%What the hell are you talking about? I said age 20-29. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/05/21 10:53 PM |
| 1 | Discussion: top 20%23.6 million women in the US are aged between 20-29. There are 157.0 million women in the US, so that’s 14.7%. https://www.statista.com/statistics/241488/population-of-the-us-by-sex-and-age/ | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/05/21 02:02 PM |
| 0 | Sex just isnt worth as much as some of you think it isI'm referring to self-defined incels. Men who literally call themselves incels. I strongly prefer men with few to no sexual partners. I am disgusted by promiscuous men. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/05/21 04:53 PM |
| 2 | men of PPD: would you marry an unattractive woman who has potential to get prettier?https://www.huffpost.com/entry/dispelling-the-myth-of-ge\_b\_1617115 The preference for mothers went out with women’s lib; as long ago as the 1980s, studies found that the vast majority (94 percent in one study) of fathers who actively sought custody received sole or joint custody and that fathers received primary physical custody far more than mothers. A recent national study that focused on cases involving claims of "parental alienation" found that when mothers allege abuse in family court… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/05/21 04:38 PM |
| 1 | Discussion: top 20%It’s an observation based on men’s own testimony. It’s men who say that women “hit the wall”, “men are visual” etc. “Visible but not in a positive way” amounts to much the same thing. Men have no interest in 80%+ of women, that is the material point. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/05/21 11:53 AM |
| 1 | Discussion: top 20%It’s the male perception that’s skewed. A 3 to you is someone at the bottom of the top 20% of women. When men talk about women, they only count the women they find attractive. The rest are invisible. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/05/21 11:18 AM |
| 0 | Discussion: top 20%Men are pickier when it comes to both sex and relationships. They want young hot women for sex, and young hot women who are also chaste and compliant for relationships. In the past men would generally settle for women on their level as a means of getting regular sex, but nowadays men can just watch porn and gain”access” to the most beautiful women. As a result, men are now conditioned to only be attracted to 8+/10s and will choose celibacy over anything less. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/05/21 09:46 AM |
| 1 | Discussion: top 20%I‘m not counting kids, 15% of females are in their 20s. Grannies? You mean 30+ year olds? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/05/21 09:40 AM |
| 1 | Sex just isnt worth as much as some of you think it isWomen have the same “any port in a storm” attitude when it comes relationships, with the result that overweight/middle aged men have more options in this regard, and obviously relationships involve sex. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/05/21 09:02 AM |
| 1 | Discussion: top 20%80/20 is meaningless in the context of a 80/20 gender skew. It has nothing to do with women’s standards but is the mathematical result of there being fewer women. Unless 20% of women screw 4x as many men, which would render them “sluts” in the eyes of men - they have to pick 20%. Naturally they will choose the most attractive available to them, just s men would if the genders were reversed. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/05/21 08:56 AM |
| 1 | CMV: Women who pair up only with taller, richer, prettier men than them, shouldn't be surprised they're expected to compensate by taking care of house chores, or overcompensate by being great partners.Online dating is 80% male so naturally women must be more selective unless they’re to be extremely promiscuous. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/05/21 08:46 AM |
| 1 | CMV: Women who pair up only with taller, richer, prettier men than them, shouldn't be surprised they're expected to compensate by taking care of house chores, or overcompensate by being great partners.Nonsense, men’s 80/20 theory, like most manosphere theories is a gender-swapped projection of their own preferences. Women aren’t the ones saying that men hit the wall and only young thin hot men are attractive and that “women are visual” etc. Men want to simultaneously argue that men have the advantage over women - threatening us with the wall and criticising every aspect of our appearances - while also claim that we have the advantage somehow. Men want to both gloat over having the upper hand … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/05/21 08:39 AM |
| 1 | CMV: Women who pair up only with taller, richer, prettier men than them, shouldn't be surprised they're expected to compensate by taking care of house chores, or overcompensate by being great partners.The average woman is 38 years old and 170lbs. That’s a fat old hag according to most men. When you say “average women”, you mean the average woman you find attractive. When you say “ugly women”, you still mean above average women. Average/unattractive women don’t exist to men. When men talk about women, they are referring to the top 20%. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/05/21 08:20 AM |
| 1 | CMV: Women who pair up only with taller, richer, prettier men than them, shouldn't be surprised they're expected to compensate by taking care of house chores, or overcompensate by being great partners.It used to be the case that a man would settle, but now porn has conditioned men to only be attracted to 8/10s. Men now choose celibacy over women who don’t meet this standard. Beautiful women naturally have high standards, but 90% of women will date men at or in the case of 30+ women, below their level so long as he is willing to commit to her. Women will stay in abusive relationships with horribly unattractive men because they’re so afraid of being alone. Women are as desperate to be loved as … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/05/21 08:00 AM |
| 1 | Sex just isnt worth as much as some of you think it isThis is a huge misconception. Women want men who are attractive enough to sleep around, but don’t. STDs aren’t attractive. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/05/21 07:53 AM |
| 1 | Discussion: top 20%Because hookup apps are 80% male. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/05/21 07:52 AM |
| 1 | Discussion: top 20%You could easily sleep with women at your own level. All men are competing for the top 10%. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/05/21 01:24 AM |
| 1 | Discussion: top 20%So the wall doesn't exist. Women's chances are the same in every demographic. It literally doesn't effect them. This is the opposite of what men argue about "the wall" every day on reddit. It's amazing how it ceases to exist in the context of the 80/20 narrative. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/05/21 01:12 AM |
| 3 | Discussion: top 20%If 80% of women are dating the top 20% of men then that would mean older women are indeed dating 25 year old guys. I'm not saying anyone should date anyone. I'm pointing out that men are attracted to the top 10% of women and that the 80/20 idea is projection. Guys in their 20s are only attracted to 8+/10s due to porn. They will be choose celibacy rather than date anything less. Guys of this age group literally shoot up schools because Staceys won't date them, murder-suicide > dating an average g… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/05/21 01:05 AM |
| 1 | CMV: Women who pair up only with taller, richer, prettier men than them, shouldn't be surprised they're expected to compensate by taking care of house chores, or overcompensate by being great partners.Lmao yeah womens biological hypergamy And what about men's "biological hypergamy" - your desire for young attractive women? That's about 10% of women. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/05/21 12:43 AM |
| 1 | CMV: Women who pair up only with taller, richer, prettier men than them, shouldn't be surprised they're expected to compensate by taking care of house chores, or overcompensate by being great partners.Women in their prime are a small percent of women. They are going for men in their own league. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/05/21 12:41 AM |
| 1 | CMV: Women who pair up only with taller, richer, prettier men than them, shouldn't be surprised they're expected to compensate by taking care of house chores, or overcompensate by being great partners.Men won't settle for anything less than a 8+/10, >25 y/o virgin. They certainly care about dating up in terms of attractiveness. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/05/21 12:38 AM |
| 1 | CMV: Women who pair up only with taller, richer, prettier men than them, shouldn't be surprised they're expected to compensate by taking care of house chores, or overcompensate by being great partners.Goes both ways, being friendzoned by Stacey trumps dating an average girl. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/05/21 12:32 AM |
| 1 | CMV: Women who pair up only with taller, richer, prettier men than them, shouldn't be surprised they're expected to compensate by taking care of house chores, or overcompensate by being great partners.Men pretty much view all men as more attractive than women. And obviously they're fucking taller, they're men. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/05/21 12:30 AM |
| 1 | Discussion: top 20%Only if you want top 5% pussy. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/05/21 12:24 AM |
| 0 | Discussion: top 20%Do you have any coherent argument against the rule Yes - it's directly contradicted by the idea that women "hit the wall". >20% of women are under 30, indicating that it's men who are attracted to the top 20% of women. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/05/21 12:23 AM |
| 1 | Discussion: top 20%80/20 is absolutely real. How is this possible if women hit the wall? >20% of women are under 30. Most men don't want anything to do with 80% of women - let alone the top 20% of men. It's men who only want the top 20% of women. Most of women date the top 20% of men. Because these are the only women who exist to you, you accuse all women of wanting the top 20% of men. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/05/21 12:21 AM |
| 1 | Discussion: top 20%Same applies to hot girls but even more so. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/05/21 12:11 AM |
| 1 | Discussion: top 20%Tinder statistics? But Tinder is 80% male! All women are the top 20%! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/05/21 12:10 AM |
| 1 | Discussion: top 20%It's the other way around. Men want the top 20% of women and when these women date men in their league you accuse all women of dating the top 20%. Because these are the only women that exist to you. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/05/21 12:09 AM |
| 1 | Discussion: top 20%"dumpster diving" = anything less than a 7 even if the guy is a 4. The top 20% of women are average to men. When you talk about "women" you mean women you find attractive. Other women are invisible to you. Men say that women "hit the wall at 30" - 15% of women are under 30. Therefore, men find less than 15% of women attractive. Subtract overweight/ugly women and that's more like 5-10% | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/05/21 12:04 AM |
| 1 | Discussion: top 20%it's not the exact number, some women find 5% of men attractive, some find 15% some find 50%...it's ~20% on average It's the other way around. Men are attracted to 5-20% of women. Under 30s are >20%. Why do men suddenly forget "the wall" and their claims to want young fertile women in this discussion? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/05/21 11:54 PM |
| 1 | Discussion: top 20%whereas 80% of women can get laid at will by men across nearly all demographics. Men aren't interested in 80% of women. You have no conception of what 80% of women is. Less than 20% of women are under 30. Women hit the wall in their late 20s. It's men who are only attracted to the top 20% of women. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/05/21 11:52 PM |
| 2 | Discussion: top 20%No, it's men who want the top <20% of women. Women "hit the wall" at 30 and only 15% of women are under 30. If you further exclude overweight and ugly women then men only want the top 5-10%. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/05/21 11:46 PM |
| 1 | Discussion: top 20%The 80/20 rule completely contradicts the idea that women hit the wall. 15% of women are in their 20s, so if the wall exists then it's men who are attracted to the top 15% of women - more like 10% when you exclude overweight/ugly women. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/05/21 11:43 PM |
| 1 | AF/BB is mostly the same guy, Younger/OlderBBs in their 20s ignore women in their own league while mooning after the Staceys in the AFs league. AFs are not interested in the women in the BBs league. Their dating pools are entirely separate. BBs would rather be friendzoned by 8+/10s than date at their own level. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/05/21 11:34 PM |
| 1 | AF/BB is mostly the same guy, Younger/Olderbut the thing is, now they don't have to stop if they don't want to And women do? I thought 80% were sleeping with the top 20%. That means most women are be getting laid by young studs into old age. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/05/21 11:22 PM |
| 1 | Sex just isnt worth as much as some of you think it isSex is a need Then why are women shamed for it? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/05/21 11:07 PM |
| 1 | Sex just isnt worth as much as some of you think it isAnd yet RP defines value in a woman by lack of sexual experience. A woman has to lead a death-like existence to have value. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/05/21 11:07 PM |
| 1 | Sex just isnt worth as much as some of you think it isAnd yet you slut-shame and tell women not to have sex. Apparently you don't want touch as much as you want to shame women. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/05/21 11:03 PM |
| 3 | Sex just isnt worth as much as some of you think it isAnd yet RP want women to deny themselves this and be chaste. Their value is negatively correlated with how much they enjoy life. Being a "high value woman", according to RP, is death. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/05/21 11:01 PM |
| 1 | Sex just isnt worth as much as some of you think it isAfter they've ridden the pussy carousel | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/05/21 10:59 PM |
| -1 | Sex just isnt worth as much as some of you think it isBut women hit the wall at 30, meaning <15% of us are attractive to men. The vast majority of women are "not good enough to be desired" by men. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/05/21 10:55 PM |
| -3 | Sex just isnt worth as much as some of you think it isMen don't want sex as much as they want to prevent women having sex. Men suppress the supply of sex by slut-shaming. This is especially true of "sexless men", incels absolutely despise "sluts". Men would rather be go without sex themselves than allow female promiscuity. Hence all religion. Men are the source of all moralizing and restrictions around sex and all sexual repression throughout history. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/05/21 10:51 PM |
| 0 | Sex just isnt worth as much as some of you think it isAn attractive woman you mean. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/05/21 10:42 PM |
| -1 | Sex just isnt worth as much as some of you think it isbut the lack of it makes most of us depressed. Then why do you slut-shame, thereby reducing the availability of sex? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/05/21 10:41 PM |
| 0 | Sex just isnt worth as much as some of you think it is. You can get sex whenever you want with minimal effort. Only if you're attractive. When men talk about "women" they mean attractive women. with an above average looking man. Ha. "Above average" men won't touch -7/10s. The average female age in the US is 38 and average weight 170.6lb. If women hit the wall at 30 then less than 15% of women are attractive to men. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/05/21 10:37 PM |
| 1 | For men who complain about AWALT, and the CC, why don’t you just date a religious girl?Why the hell would a religious girl want to date a redpiller. Presumably she has morals and wants the same in her partner. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/05/21 08:52 PM |
| 4 | men of PPD: would you marry an unattractive woman who has potential to get prettier?It favours men. Men win custody the majority of time when they pursue it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/05/21 08:50 PM |
| -1 | Porn use negatively affects men's sexual satisfaction in actual real-life sexReturn? They still do. Porn use has fuelled prostitution. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/05/21 08:44 PM |
| 1 | Being widowed in one's 20s increases suicide risk by ~17x for men, but only ~4x for womenNo, I mean that the fact that wives are replaced quicker suggests that women are disposable. Female infanticide suggests the same. Men are also more likely to divorce dying spouses than the reverse. Men were sent out to war in our awful past but they were also entitled to rape/kill/sexually enslave women as a reward. Women are disposable once men have had sexual use of them. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/10/20 04:58 PM |
| 1 | Promiscuous women are more incompetent, cold, and unstable, according to womenWhen you say drop their standards, you mean from women out of their league to women actually in their league, which men have serious delusions about. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/10/20 06:43 AM |
| 3 | Promiscuous women are more incompetent, cold, and unstable, according to womenUnfortunately, when a pretty decent looking guy fucks a pig When he fucks a woman of his own standard you mean. Men tend to rate themselves and other men as more attractive and out of the leagues of their female counterparts. To men, the top 20% of women = all women. When you say that 80% of women are being monopolised by the top 20% of men, you mean 80% of the top 20% of women. The rest don't exist to you. People tend to sleep with people on their own level of attractiveness. Men think that thi… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/10/20 06:43 AM |
| 2 | Being widowed in one's 20s increases suicide risk by ~17x for men, but only ~4x for womenhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Remarriage#Remarriage_following_widowhood Men and women not only have different remarriage rates, but they also differ in their desire to repartner (to establish a new romantic relationship). A year and a half after the death of a spouse, 15% of widows and 37% of widowers ages 65 and older were interested in dating Men are more likely to repartner after losing their spouse; more than 60% of men but less than 20% of women are involved in a new romance or remarried wi… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/10/20 07:05 PM |
| 1 | Men and women are both hypergamous but in different ways. Women marry up for wealth, power and social status while men marry up for looks.I'd be interested to see this data. I understood that men reported a higher average partner count than women (impossible though that should be). | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/10/20 06:32 PM |
| 1 | Promiscuous women are more incompetent, cold, and unstable, according to womenNot unless she makes a habit of it. I don't think you can assume that the women e.g Joey sleeps with and doesn't call back in Friends are generally promiscuous. And anyway, as I say, they don't matter to the show. They aren't characters that people are invested in. If Rachel on the other hand slept around like Joey... | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/10/20 05:35 PM |
| 1 | Promiscuous women are more incompetent, cold, and unstable, according to womenRead what I wrote. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/10/20 05:16 PM |
| 1 | Promiscuous women are more incompetent, cold, and unstable, according to womenI just addressed this - you are repeating yourself without any indication that you read or comprehended my comment. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/10/20 05:06 PM |
| 1 | Promiscuous women are more incompetent, cold, and unstable, according to womenThey're fucking a random woman with no significance to the show - we don't know if she's promiscuous or know anything about her sexual history, as she is usually introduced purely for the purpose of fucking the male character, and disappears shortly afterwards. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/10/20 04:59 PM |
| 1 | Being widowed in one's 20s increases suicide risk by ~17x for men, but only ~4x for womenIt might be because its harder for a man to bounce back after a death of a partner. Remarriage rates suggest the opposite. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/10/20 04:37 PM |
| 1 | Being widowed in one's 20s increases suicide risk by ~17x for men, but only ~4x for womenNo it doesn't, it tells them to get in relationships and scaremongers about their wombs drying up. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/10/20 04:36 PM |
| 1 | Being widowed in one's 20s increases suicide risk by ~17x for men, but only ~4x for womenFewer men means more women are available to the surviving men, meaning that these men now have the privilege of polygyny. It would seem that it is men themselves who are ultimately causing their own destruction for the benefit of their sexual imperative. Dying so that other men can have more women? The ultimate cuckoldry. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/10/20 04:31 PM |
| 1 | Being widowed in one's 20s increases suicide risk by ~17x for men, but only ~4x for womenThen why are men more likely to remarry, and remarry quicker than women when their spouses die? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/10/20 04:30 PM |
| 1 | Being widowed in one's 20s increases suicide risk by ~17x for men, but only ~4x for womenWidowed men are more likely to remarry, and sooner, than widowed women (women grieve, men replace). Men are also more likely to divorce a wife who is seriously ill than the reverse. Men generally seem to like being married (to a wife fit for purpose) more than women, although wives are largely interchangeable for them. They just like the state of being married. Women on the other hand report being happier when single. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/10/20 04:28 PM |
| 0 | Promiscuous women are more incompetent, cold, and unstable, according to womenSo you're saying that looks matter to guys for LTRs but not ONSs? That's the opposite of what I've often read on here. Men usually argue that looks are less important for a LTR than character, and that causal sex is purely based on looks. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/10/20 04:19 PM |
| 0 | Promiscuous women are more incompetent, cold, and unstable, according to womenOn the other hand girls are now protected by age of consent laws and aren't forced to marry and have children at a young age. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/10/20 04:05 PM |
| 2 | Promiscuous women are more incompetent, cold, and unstable, according to women"Our culture" tells women that being promiscuous is a good thing plenty. No it doesn't, quite the opposite. I can't think of any media where casual sex is sanctioned for women. That would be enormously controversial. Shows that have been accused of promoting female promiscuity, e.g Sex and the City, do not actually do so at all. If a woman sleeps around she has to be portrayed psychologically damaged in some way. Men sleeping with random women however is standard, and they get to do it for fun a… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/10/20 04:02 PM |
| 7 | Promiscuous women are more incompetent, cold, and unstable, according to womenEvery man i know who had a serious relationship, e eventually harmed or destroyed the relationship when they brought and eventually had a threesome.(MFF) I imagine most men would be similarly perturbed by their partners suggesting an MMF threesome. "I want to fuck another guy/girl in front of you" is going to horrify all but the most laid back of people. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/10/20 03:18 PM |
| 9 | Promiscuous women are more incompetent, cold, and unstable, according to womenThe American females eat themselves to the point that 2/3rds of them are obese or overweight. America actually has more obese females than overweight females. The average American female is 5'3" and 170LBS bmi of 30.1 (technically obese). And yet I hear that 80% are sleeping with the top 20% of men, indicating that female weight, age and looks are irrelevant to sexual success. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/10/20 03:12 PM |
| -2 | Promiscuous women are more incompetent, cold, and unstable, according to womenNo, it's that men's ideas of women are contradictory. You say women aren't visual but also that they're shallow. You say that they're monogamous but also that they want to ride the CC and so on. For every generalization you make about women there is a directly contradictory one. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/10/20 03:05 PM |
| 1 | Promiscuous women are more incompetent, cold, and unstable, according to womenThis means that the majority of men sleeping around aren't giving women orgasms, meaning male promiscuity isn't an indication of prowess. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/10/20 02:49 PM |
| 1 | Individual women cannot change who they are attracted to the way they change outfitsbut if they're all going for the top 1-10% until they get unattractively old and have to settle with some unlucky bastard...what's the point in even trying to be a good, traditional man? It's men who are only attracted to the 1-10% of women. The average female age is 38, so if women hit the wall in their late 20s then the majority are unattractive to men. Then further exclude the ones that are overweight (average weight is 170lbs), and have other unattractive features, you're left with a small %… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/10/20 10:07 AM |
| 1 | Individual women cannot change who they are attracted to the way they change outfitsMen's self-perceived SMV is the women they're attracted to, that is the top 20%. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/10/20 09:53 AM |
| 1 | Why don't women do a lysistraMen would just use prostitutes. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/10/20 09:25 AM |
| 1 | Men and women are both hypergamous but in different ways. Women marry up for wealth, power and social status while men marry up for looks.Where are you getting these figures from? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/10/20 09:19 AM |
| 1 | Men and women are both hypergamous but in different ways. Women marry up for wealth, power and social status while men marry up for looks.Women are only open to the top 10-20% of men in terms of attractiveness. If that were true then most women would be celibate. The average woman is 38 and 170lbs. The top 10-20% of men aren't interested in that. The average man isn't interested in that. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/10/20 09:18 AM |
| 1 | Men and women are both hypergamous but in different ways. Women marry up for wealth, power and social status while men marry up for looks.So the wall isn't real? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/10/20 09:11 AM |
| -95 | 2 women who murdered a young girl fall to the ground and begin to squeal after they receive life in prisonUh no, men are responsible for 90%+ of violent crime. | /r/PussyPassDenied | 09/10/20 10:10 PM |
| 1 | Do you think women live life on easy mode/tutorial mode, like many red pillers claim?Generally an average woman is considered attractive. This is not true. The average woman is overweight . The average age is 38. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/05/20 01:05 PM |
| 1 | Do you think women live life on easy mode/tutorial mode, like many red pillers claim?If women hit the wall at 25-30 then they quite clearly have it worse. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/05/20 01:01 PM |
| 1 | What do you think would happen overtime if porn disappeared?porn is actually helping men to get a more honest understanding of women. How so? Porn is male fantasy acted out by women (even "amateur"). It's scripted and directed. Acting a part doesn't reveal anything about one's private nature. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/05/20 12:57 PM |
| 1 | If women are the less promiscuous of the two sexes, how come a greater portion of women than men are in the “past doesn’t matter” camp?It's logically impossible for women to be less promiscuous. Where are men getting the extra partners? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/05/20 12:45 PM |
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