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Columbia acknowledged that she begged him for sex, he refused, and no sex occurred. Yet, Columbia continues to withhold his degree, despite the fact that he has met all the requirements for its conferral. Holy shit that's fucking sick
/r/MGTOW24/06/19 02:49 PM
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Source? Or where'd it happen, so I can look it up?
/r/MGTOW24/06/19 01:50 PM
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That....actually is making some sense for me. I'm not gonna guess about gender ratios, but I can see a lot of people having this same line of thought, especially driven by their emotion/intuition. If you think you're a good person (as most people do), then you couldn't have done something wrong, so if you feel bad, it's because something/someone hurt you.
/r/MGTOW24/06/19 03:31 AM
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The young girls get choosy in a way that would have been ridiculous barely a decade ago. As a result the boys grow more self conscious, and become afraid to even ask. Truly a hopeless cycle. Yes,that's exactly what I see. When monogamy is no longer strongly encouraged, men lose out on what was historically a stable path to getting laid regularly. Not passing moral judgements on anyone here, just pointing out the changes and mechanisms at play here. I took your previous comment to mean the guys t…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/19 11:05 PM
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They make sex out to be something SO big in their heads, they'll walk away from what would have been a sure thing, because it didn't feel quite right. Have you seen this happen often? Have you heard guys frame it like this? Guys do try harder now, but I think it's just a response to how picky young women have gotten, compared to previous generations. Sex within the context of a relationship is more balanced between the sexes compared to hook ups, which are much easier for women to find/arrange. …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/19 01:26 PM
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Older men have lower standards. Nope. I'm not sure why this myth propagates, but men having standards that are too high is almost never the reason they don't have success at a population level. Unless they should be willing to fuck fat women, their standards are not too high. Plenty of red pillers seem to have trouble getting laid, and put in a lot of effort (working out, socializing, learning game). If it were actually easy, the red pill wouldn't be so prevalent. Why does it have to be the boys…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/19 03:21 AM
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Hmm, maybe, I'm not sure. Doesn't really seem like it's easy to get laid as a young guy, though, while older men seem to not have as much trouble
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/19 12:19 AM
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I mean that we are very different from even a generation or two ago. As is our environment, with the internet and smart phones
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/19 12:18 AM
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Except we have clear evidence of differing trends. Marriage, divorce, sex rates.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/19 11:49 PM
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Why does his motivation matter? He's pointing out the fact that kids in single parent homes do worse in almost every way. If you want what's best for your kids, perhaps first developing a stable relationship to raise them under would be the best course of action, rather than trying to gift them with physical attraction, which may or may not even get properly inherited.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/19 11:46 PM
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It certainly seems like a contest when a third of men in their twenties aren't getting laid.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/19 11:30 PM
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All because men refused to stop women's sexy, slutty, naughty behavior. Not our fault, of course, but we suffer. WOMEN suffer. This is not liberty, it is tyranny, and it is what CUCKS create. Cucks do not care about female liberty; they are "betas" who want to satisfy their sexual desire by letting Chads take over their countries, borders, etc. The female imperative. Females have no incentive to be moral, of course, since immoral women often have a higher chance of breeding than loyal ones, so a…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/19 05:47 PM
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How about the average older man compared to the average younger man?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/19 05:20 PM
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Thanks!
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen15/01/19 03:43 PM
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So, I'm not sure if anything can/will/should be done about the 80/20 af/bb situation. Marriage is/was a decent compromise to avoid both sexes being hurt by this natural tendency, but we've really fucked it up due to bias against men (why tf would a man want to get married today??). My point was mainly around the conversations we have. Comedian Bill Burr has been discussing some of the unfairness in being a man for over a decade. Professor Jordan Peterson kinda went viral a couple years ago by sp…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen15/01/19 03:39 AM
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I've seen this a few times but still don't get it, what is OLD?
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen15/01/19 03:21 AM
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I don't think that's true. It takes a lot of time to reflect and adapt to our biases as humans. We think women are wonderful, it's programmed into us, and sure, we'll never get rid of that. But I'm pretty sure we'll get to a balancing point of being able to speak honestly. How could we not? How far could a society even get when it tries to prop itself up with enforced lies? Such states fall quickly.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen15/01/19 03:20 AM
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I'll bet one grand if you're taking the other side of that
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen15/01/19 02:56 AM
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I think a long detachment from men (at least 90 days), no online dating, and no hookups. Only date men she thinks are wanting a relationship and kids with her, not just sex. Kinda like recalibrating your brain after an addiction. That would be my best, honest advice.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen15/01/19 01:51 AM
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If they consent to sex while drunk, the man can be charged for rape. The reverse is only technically true.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen15/01/19 01:08 AM
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Depends on the circles you're in https://www.reddit.com/r/TheRedPill/comments/2zckqu/updated_glossary_of_terms_and_acronyms/
/r/PussyPassDenied02/03/18 05:32 AM
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the most beautiful women go right to the wealthiest men Why blame the system, it's the women who make these choices. You could say feminism can't exist with capitalism, and that'd prob be true.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen12/08/17 04:09 PM
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Probably not, though a page for First Gentleman might actually be created. What makes this especially dumb is that it's hating on algorithms. People found what they were looking for more quickly when the results were ordered how they were.
/r/PussyPassDenied30/03/17 02:53 AM
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they're mutually exclusive What do you mean?
/r/PussyPassDenied30/03/17 01:48 AM
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Will smith isn't a "result", a picture of his face is just on the side.
/r/PussyPassDenied30/03/17 01:46 AM
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What's her point? To not have gendered terms for the same occupation?
/r/PussyPassDenied30/03/17 01:44 AM
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To be fair, guys get some clues as to whether they'll be acceptable, while girls have no idea unless they're rather forward before they move to a more private location.
/r/PussyPassDenied04/03/17 03:33 PM
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Idk, maybe that's more offensive, but probably less demoralizing.
/r/PussyPassDenied04/03/17 03:30 PM
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Until they're married, she knows she has to. If he's not even getting that, well, then idk.
/r/PussyPassDenied24/02/17 06:15 PM
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Its better to look for a job while you already have one, so you don't have to push through a period of time without regular pay.
/r/PussyPassDenied24/02/17 01:06 PM
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self-respect is overrated. Doesn't do much but hinder us. Edit: think about it.
/r/PussyPassDenied24/02/17 04:22 AM
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Choo choo!
/r/PussyPassDenied24/02/17 03:59 AM
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But the pussy on the reg tho :/
/r/PussyPassDenied24/02/17 03:59 AM
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/r/FA30plus/
/r/MGTOW14/08/16 02:48 PM
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The point isn't to get under the other person's skin or to actually make them feel bad. It's about the art and cleverness.
/r/PussyPassDenied18/01/16 04:32 AM
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What kind of question is that? It's possible everyone "in power" is corrupt, but that doesn't prove that everyone "with any measure of power are corrupt." For example, the teacher from above was obviously corrupt, but there were likely also her more reasonable colleagues that had access to the same disciplinary measures and didn't abuse them. Taken more broadly, parents (and even pet owners) have almost absolute power over their kids, but that doesn't mean all parents are corrupt (even though we…
/r/PussyPassDenied18/01/16 04:31 AM
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I'm confused as to the legality of using his music. I thought it was interesting that he actually did the thumb-across-neck taunt that Benoit would do.
/r/PussyPassDenied18/01/16 04:26 AM
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Thank you. That joke flew way over my head.
/r/PussyPassDenied18/01/16 04:25 AM
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The xbox punchline was pretty funny/savage tbh.
/r/PussyPassDenied18/01/16 04:24 AM
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I'm similar in my distaste for authority, but Power corrupts, and those with any measure of power are corrupt. is too far, imho. Yes, power corrupts, but it doesn't corrupt everyone. But if you give it to a few people, at least one of them is going to abuse it.
/r/PussyPassDenied18/01/16 04:14 AM
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rather gave her a second opportunity and wysiwyg. Gesundheit. If she did hit him before, then I think it was a fair way to go about it (and smart, so a camera was recording everything).
/r/PussyPassDenied24/12/15 04:50 PM
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Yeah, that seems like the easiest and most likely situation.
/r/PussyPassDenied09/12/15 10:43 PM
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Do you have a source for that?
/r/PussyPassDenied09/12/15 09:35 PM
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The quote you provided is not from OP. That was a comment detailing a separate story (and not what this thread's OP was complaining about).
/r/PussyPassDenied08/12/15 08:33 PM
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I visit this sub only occasionally (maybe every couple weeks), so you're probably misremembering (unless you're talking about another place).
/r/PussyPassDenied08/12/15 10:05 AM
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Because he's criticizing her? Did you not watch the video? Or do you disagree with his points?
/r/PussyPassDenied08/12/15 08:43 AM
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Yeah, dude. I guess I was a bit in denial about the delusional misogyny. Like, I knew there would be people with anti-women biases, but denying reality just because you don't think a "pussypass denier" should be questioned? That's as bad as the feminists, and that post really opened my eyes.
/r/PussyPassDenied08/12/15 08:25 AM
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Why wouldn't you assume that? Do you just sit there while your date orders an appetizer (which is generally shared), cocktail (yeah, you might just get water), and an actual meal (they take orders together).
/r/PussyPassDenied08/12/15 08:21 AM
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That wasn't OP (dummy).
/r/PussyPassDenied08/12/15 08:21 AM
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You're right, man. It's definitely a dick thing to do, and people here seem to be making shit up just to justify his actions. However, I do think she deserved to be treated like that. It's unlikely that this was her first time doing this, and leaving her with his bill isn't that "wrong" in my eyes.
/r/PussyPassDenied08/12/15 08:19 AM
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I think it's pretty lame to give the impression that you're letting someone hit you and then hit them back for it. It's like telling someone they can have a slice of your pizza and then taking money for it after the fact. Now, the video didn't give much context (and it sounded like she had already punched him before the recording?), so it's quite possible that his actions were more justified. But on its own, I do agree that you shouldn't hit someone just because you let them hit you.
/r/PussyPassDenied08/12/15 08:13 AM
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Yeah, same, but I wonder how that plays out in court. Like, especially if it can easily be argued that the man (me) is expected to pay and therefore is responsible for the full amount.
/r/PussyPassDenied08/12/15 08:01 AM
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And probably let's on to what kind of a person she was. I think he even mentions how she gets "hysterical," meaning she probably gets violent.
/r/PussyPassDenied08/12/15 07:04 AM
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Right, but tailgating isn't that serious of an offense (not in the states anyways), even if you bump the other driver.
/r/PussyPassDenied25/11/15 11:46 PM
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Which means that 10 points is still a shitton. She should have harsher penalties for the assault, but her distracted driving and minor accident doesn't require her license to be taken away.
/r/PussyPassDenied25/11/15 11:34 PM
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10 points is a shitton. You get that many (>60) points over the course of a lifetime, and you still have to jump through hoops to keep driving. In many states, her license would be suspended after that, and in others, all it would take is a speeding ticket or two.
/r/PussyPassDenied25/11/15 02:00 PM
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Where tf did you find that?
/r/PussyPassDenied16/11/15 08:22 AM
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The rhyme scheme and references were on point, too, honestly. It's just that their points are wrong, and they're just indoctrinated kids.
/r/PussyPassDenied16/11/15 08:21 AM
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lots of guys call women "females" The real answer is actually concealed within your comment. We can call male humans "guys," but female humans can only be called "girls" or "women." So what do we call female adults that aren't actually acting like "women," or seem too young/immature to be comfortably referred to as women? Females.
/r/PussyPassDenied16/11/15 08:01 AM
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Is "cottoned on" a slang term or something? Both you and op said it, and I can't tell if they're coincidental typos or they mean something on their own.
/r/TheRedPill07/11/15 04:26 PM
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It says this is an advert. Are these genuine reactions, or actors?
/r/PussyPassDenied28/10/15 11:45 AM
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By landing on it..? It's all about physics and shit. You land on it in just the right way, and it's over. It's why learning how to fall is so important in many sports/martial arts.
/r/PussyPassDenied21/10/15 10:03 AM
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Psychedelics won't make her attractive. Don't be afraid to try them. Start slow and with an experienced friend around. It's like riding a bike. Awesome after you get the hang of it
/r/PussyPass18/10/15 09:38 PM
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She's a little funnylooking, but she's white and blonde with makeup. She's one of those women that looks like a 5-6 sober, but 8-9 after 4 shots.
/r/PussyPass18/10/15 09:33 PM
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the way she picked up that fucking wooden board clearly demonstrated that she didn't want to fight anymore When did she do that? I must've missed it
/r/PussyPassDenied18/10/15 07:30 PM
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She seems pretty hot. Were you looking at the wrong one?
/r/PussyPass17/10/15 11:12 AM
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I bet you are a guy that's in favor of banning drugs and alcohol too, huh? The difference is consent. Are you in favor of legalizing drugs and alcohol for all ages? As a society, we have decided that we are not mature enough to make such important and impactful decisions until a certain age. If we wish to move towards an egalitarian society, gender should play absolutely no part in determining whether or not a person is mature enough to do certain things.
/r/PussyPass17/10/15 11:09 AM
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men are waay more likely to be applauded for sleeping around Lmao, keep subtly moving the goalposts. Yes, men are applauded for sleeping around, not for cheating, even if it is a celebrity. The women are the ones who are jealous when another gets to hook up with a celebrity, and know they would've done the same if they were as hot as her.
/r/PussyPass17/10/15 11:03 AM
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He's right guys. In fact, Zoe Quinn (part of the spark that ignited gamergate) is one of those feminists who believed that. Funny thing is, she cheated on her boyfriend five times (at least). She also goes on to admit she raped him, in their chatlogs. For those wondering, the logic is that sex is rape unless both/all parties have informed consent. This means that if you have an STI, you have to disclose it, otherwise you're forcing a situation upon the victim that they did not accept, and are ex…
/r/PussyPass17/10/15 11:00 AM
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You're technically right... But on the other hand, would you pay 80 bucks to push someone you dislike and face no other repercussions? Because I think a hell of a lot of people would take that deal.
/r/PussyPass17/10/15 10:45 AM
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Here's a vid: http://www.worldstarhiphop.com/videos/video.php?v=wshhzw0cL9A6lRPpKUA2 Here's a longer explanation with the clip somewhere within it, probably: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=op4scME3Ym4
/r/PussyPassDenied16/10/15 06:56 AM
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Holding those responsible for sexual violence accountable means acknowledging the terrifying fact that violence against women is deeply ingrained in and normalised in our culture They're just crazy. It was a woman responsible. And if we're going to consider woman on woman violence (not sure if the victim was a woman), then violence against men vastly outclasses violence against women, both in frequency and in severity.
/r/PussyPassDenied15/10/15 09:51 AM
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You're right, I was conflating being detained with being arrested. She was detained and is required to follow reasonable instructions under the law.
/r/PussyPassDenied12/10/15 10:38 PM
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I mean, if anything, it's going to decrease how frequently they report it. She's not wrong.
/r/PussyPassDenied12/10/15 12:39 PM
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That's the thing, she was arrested. The easiest test is to try walking away. If they stop you, you're arrested.
/r/PussyPassDenied12/10/15 12:31 PM
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*looks at votes* Hmm...
/r/PussyPassDenied12/10/15 12:30 PM
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Meh, you said he punched him, I disagreed, nbd ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
/r/PussyPassDenied08/10/15 06:35 AM
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He didn't punch him, wtf And yes, I already admitted they weren't white knights
/r/PussyPassDenied08/10/15 05:54 AM
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I disagree, with the context that he's trying to go after someone else. It was all to get the person out of the way, and he didn't do anything that would hurt him
/r/PussyPassDenied08/10/15 05:51 AM
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He didn't punch him, he was just trying to get his hands out of the way.
/r/PussyPassDenied08/10/15 05:36 AM
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girl snags guy's shirt guy punches girl I didn't see him ever get a punch in. But yeah, they seemed pretty fair about it. Prob not white knighting
/r/PussyPassDenied08/10/15 04:34 AM
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deescalating a situation doesn't imply white knighting I agree, but if they're only restraining the guy when he retaliates and don't do anything towards the girl (except protect her), they are white knights, by definition.
/r/PussyPassDenied08/10/15 03:58 AM
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All the white knights were trying to deescalate. If you tried to push her away and restrain her, I doubt they'd do anything to stop you.
/r/PussyPassDenied08/10/15 03:25 AM
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Yeah, it was glorious. I thought I saw one of the guys moving, so I thought he wasn't knocked out, but just wanted the fight to end, lol. The only reason I might think he went too easy is because the woman at the end started yelling at him, so she clearly didn't learn the lesson very well. I would've been quite happy if he went back for some additional teaching, but am glad he didn't continue when she seemed like she wanted to stop.
/r/PussyPassDenied07/10/15 08:45 PM
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Which means the fight with them is over. Why should he keep fighting the girls who don't want to fight anymore? He already gave them a good ass kicking. If they don't want to fight anymore and he's given them enough payback, I think continuing the fight isn't necessary. (I'm not saying I would blame him for continuing, but to say he went "too easy" when he rekt them and stopped when they had enough isn't accurate, imho.)
/r/PussyPassDenied07/10/15 08:34 PM
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i'm only for the death penalty when there's 100% evidence that proves that person did the crime for little to no reason Ok, but how do you enforce this? Can you really trust the government (through the system, courts, judges, jury, shitty witnesses, malicious prosecutors, and general human error) to make that call? Isn't it best to perhaps give them a small benefit by letting them live, on the off chance that they're innocent or perhaps there's more to the story than we figure out? What is the d…
/r/PussyPassDenied07/10/15 02:15 AM
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they do the world a favor by not plaguing us anymore with their existence Again, where's the logic? Racists are hurt by the existence of the races they hate. I hate spiders. Fundamentalists hate atheists. Even if a person's existence "plagues" us (whatever that's supposed to mean), it's not logical to end their life. Also, by claiming that killing a person makes you no longer human, you are also claiming soldiers and executioners to be no longer human. You can rationalize how there are "justifie…
/r/PussyPassDenied06/10/15 10:06 PM
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Lol, are you serious? Philosophically, if a person was known to have changed (even hitler), there's no logical reason to even keep them locked up. What point does it serve? Note that this is with omniscience (there's no gaming the system, where a person doesn't feel like the penalties will apply to them if they commit a crime and then "change" if they get caught). Practically speaking, there are many risks we should not take, as a society. It's also important to maintain punishments to act as de…
/r/PussyPassDenied06/10/15 09:41 AM
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It's acted, but I thought the guy definitely did pretty well in showing his cold anger. I doubt he had to dig very deep to immerse himself in the scene.
/r/PussyPassDenied06/10/15 09:14 AM
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Not sure if you're serious, but he didn't keep waling on the two that were just laying there (and I thought they were guys, but I'm not sure).
/r/PussyPassDenied06/10/15 09:11 AM
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It says "rural weekday." Quite possible that the phone doesn't have a great mic, or any mic at all, based on the quality.
/r/PussyPassDenied06/10/15 09:10 AM
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No one freestyled in these radio sessions. It's almost always prewritten. The only career that can end from spitting writtens is being known as an emcee, that's it. Did you pay attention to how the Drake Meek beef went down? Even that just doesn't matter.
/r/PussyPassDenied06/10/15 08:58 AM
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I'm pretty sure I know exactly the vid you're talking about, but I didn't know about the backstory, so thanks for that!
/r/PussyPassDenied06/10/15 08:45 AM
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You'll notice that they continue to push the guy away from the girl, despite them both apparently wanting to fight each other (since the girl seemed to have started it with him).
/r/PussyPassDenied06/10/15 08:44 AM
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What made me nervous was when he said "we'll have to arrest her if she doesn't have worse marks." I've heard enough stories about crazy women hurting themselves for precisely this reason.
/r/PussyPassDenied06/10/15 08:26 AM
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Justice is primal, not logical. The betterment of society should be our goal. If a person has changed and can be productive, I think they should be pardoned.
/r/PussyPassDenied06/10/15 08:16 AM
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Wtf, this is nothing about ppd. Why was it posted here?
/r/PussyPassDenied29/09/15 06:02 AM
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Fuck yeah, it was like a fuckin movie
/r/PussyPassDenied29/09/15 06:00 AM
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Yeah, it's a classic way of shaming men, insinuating they're effeminate. Calling them virgins or implying they don't get laid are in the same vein. Funnily enough, they're insulting homosexuals and unattractive men more than they're insulting their target, and the fact they're willing to put down all these people for the sake of trying to take a stab at a man's ego is reprehensible. (Note that many feminists are not above these tactics, either, despite their purported support for gay rights and …
/r/PussyPassDenied29/09/15 05:56 AM
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There was no pussypass attempt...wtf.
/r/PussyPassDenied29/09/15 05:47 AM
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Good video, but not ppd
/r/PussyPassDenied29/09/15 05:41 AM
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I don't think it's a big deal. It's basically saying the actions must have justification outside of sexism. I think that's a fair enough standard. It depends how much proof they require, though.
/r/PussyPassDenied29/09/15 05:40 AM
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I think this is a mirror https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=owRqHDrAvKQ
/r/PussyPassDenied29/09/15 04:31 AM
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He probably has a loyal minority female following that actually listen and understand and apply it to their lives.
/r/PussyPassDenied29/09/15 04:28 AM
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Ohhh shit, I'm totally using this.
/r/PussyPassDenied29/09/15 04:13 AM
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Yeah, possibly, but I read she did that multiple times. Being high doesn't keep you from understanding when someone says no (unless she's so gone that her short term memory is completely shot, but that doesn't seem to be the case).
/r/PussyPassDenied22/09/15 11:37 AM
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Eh, maybe you're right
/r/PussyPassDenied21/09/15 07:20 PM
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Idunno about that. She seemed kinda shocked, and one chick straight up flicked her off at the end. She didn't seem like the type that would enjoy that stuff. Seemed more like an entitled princess that thinks her pussy rules all.
/r/PussyPassDenied21/09/15 07:11 PM
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Well, it can't hurt heh. I'll show myself out.
/r/PussyPassDenied21/09/15 03:17 PM
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It'd have been pretty epic to be there. Best part was crowd cheering
/r/PussyPassDenied21/09/15 12:36 PM
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punishment only increased after she said something he didn't like. Because by saying that stuff, it's clear she doesn't think she did anything wrong, and isn't going to learn from it. He's just doing something more to hopefully help her understand. And if she still doesn't, then she'll get caught again and perhaps have her license revoked.
/r/PussyPassDenied18/09/15 01:58 PM
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fair application of law. That's the best part: applying the law fairly results in her being punished even more. If she's arguing about it, when she went 31 mph over, she clearly needs to relearn the rules of the road and demonstrate it again.
/r/PussyPassDenied18/09/15 12:31 PM
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k
/r/PussyPassDenied18/09/15 04:19 AM
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I'm not referring to her entitlement, but how she said it. Listen to around 4:35, "please, I'm begging you," in that (attempted) girly voice. That's what a woman attempting to use her PP sounds like.
/r/PussyPassDenied18/09/15 04:16 AM
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Aight man, you don't like it, that's fine.
/r/PussyPassDenied18/09/15 03:56 AM
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It's 15 minutes...and if you skip through the parts where they're not talking, it's 10 minutes, and if you use youtube's speedup option, it's even less. It's basically the length of a judge judy segment, and I watch those all the way through.
/r/PussyPassDenied18/09/15 03:52 AM
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I don't think that was a big deal. I think it was fine for her to take the left at the light and pull over on a seemingly less busy street.
/r/PussyPassDenied18/09/15 03:40 AM
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First, it's only half the actual length. Second, I did comment to give some good times to watch (specifically at 10 and 12 minutes), and another commenter kindly gave an even more detailed timeline.
/r/PussyPassDenied18/09/15 03:39 AM
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She's 62 and sounds like a child. No man would do that.
/r/PussyPassDenied18/09/15 03:35 AM
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That was definitely my favorite part. I was worried he'd let her get away with talking back bullshit with just a speeding ticket.
/r/PussyPassDenied17/09/15 04:20 PM
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xpost from /r/PublicFreakout Most interesting parts are around the 10 and 12 minute mark. She attempts to use her pussypass throughout the first 8-ish minutes ("please can you let me go?"). This cop is a role model, is polite the whole time and doing things by the book.
/r/PussyPassDenied17/09/15 01:28 PM
2

The pussypass was attempted when they tried to continue persuading him. They were trying to get him to do it for them (and who wouldn't want to, they're soooo pretty). "Have a good night" = denied.
/r/PussyPassDenied16/09/15 09:20 PM
-1

Sure we can. A PP can only be denied if the woman attempts to use it. A PP can be accepted without the woman trying, though. Otherwise every time a woman gets jail time comparable to a man, it would be PPD. It doesn't mean much unless the woman tries to use her gender or expects her gender to help her get reduced/lifted consequences.
/r/PussyPassDenied16/09/15 10:34 AM
14

That's not giving a pass. That dude sounds like he'd give anyone the benefit of the doubt on something like this, especially those who don't know what he's doing (think he's a dj). He treated them how he'd treat some guys.
/r/PussyPassDenied16/09/15 10:29 AM
9

Dude, wtf, just type normally
/r/PussyPassDenied15/09/15 05:52 PM
1

He said he was playing devil's advocate (and I appreciate he did). But no, I don't think the SJWs would be in favor of anything like that.
/r/PussyPassDenied15/09/15 05:52 PM
-3

And how many times did that happen? She's clearly wrong, but it's not because of lynchings. The beatings and firehose abuse and police brutality are much better talking points than lynchings in the 60s.
/r/PussyPassDenied13/09/15 09:48 AM
1

Found a probable one, and even he couldn't justify it: You did the right thing. Yes, it's not right to hit girls. It's also not right to hit anyone and if you need to defend yourself (or even another person which is what you were trying to do), you gave her a warning. I say fair game
/r/PussyPassDenied13/09/15 09:27 AM
2

I think it's how she kept escalating and struggling rather than calming down and defusing that's the problem. That's a common tactic in PP/PPD anyways, since if a woman escalates, white knights will generally help her out.
/r/PussyPassDenied13/09/15 09:24 AM
6

She's more a danger just by screaming. She better be glad her dog doesn't love her as much as she loves it, or it would have started attacking the cops and it might've lost its life.
/r/PussyPassDenied13/09/15 09:12 AM
-1

Meh, that's kinda a lame insult
/r/PussyPassDenied13/09/15 09:09 AM
4

It was still less than what they had been doing, since she started the cursing ("put away that damn camera"). The idea that she could demand anything of him probably annoyed him. He was so much more composed than I would be. I'd have used her coming after me as the legitimate cause it was to give her a smackdown
/r/PussyPassDenied13/09/15 09:08 AM
2

The sad thing is, she wasn't even charged with it. She didn't spend a day in jail. God, this is irritating.
/r/PussyPass11/09/15 09:58 PM
2

Yeah, I looked it up and it looks like it's legal to fly over someone, so he was perfectly fine.
/r/PussyPass11/09/15 09:57 PM
6

Well, I don't believe in scorched earth retribution, but she definitely deserves more than she got. Otherwise she'll keep doing what she's doing. She probably still feels justified, since she was let go so easily.
/r/PussyPass11/09/15 09:54 PM
3

Go out and grab someone's boob or rip their top off, and see if you don't get charged with sexual assault. It's an inconsistency, but I believe touching female breast is sexual assault, even though it's legal to expose your own.
/r/PussyPass11/09/15 09:52 PM
3

These were separate cases. I'm not sure about legality, but it's definitely not something you should be doing, since if something malfunctions, someone below can really get hurt. In the video, he shows his GPS tracking route that is well away from the girls' soccer game, so the father was just being a dick.
/r/PussyPass11/09/15 09:43 PM
1

Violence isn't the same as risk. And she certainly didn't help anyone by attacking him. Also, that wasn't even her reasoning. She thought he was spying on them.
/r/PussyPass11/09/15 09:41 PM
1

Yep
/r/PussyPass11/09/15 09:37 PM
12

The woman was crazy and had no right to do what she did. A man would be in jail (probably on sexual assault, considering she was exposing his nipple and grabbing him). He doesn't deserve that, he deserves to be educated so he doesn't do it again. Stupidity/ignorance isn't fixed through violence.
/r/PussyPass11/09/15 11:43 AM
1

And yet so true. She was acting like a child.
/r/PussyPassDenied11/09/15 11:14 AM
2

Well the context is obviously not the person having sex with the younger neighbor, because that's what it's meant to imply. God, nocontext is overused. And yeah, I know you're a bot, but I was just annoyed.
/r/PussyPassDenied11/09/15 11:00 AM
2

She had a full three minutes, including her retarded attempts at stalling for time "why don't you insult me some more?", and she was still blanking. Even I could do better, and I'm a passive pussy who can barely say shit.
/r/PussyPassDenied11/09/15 10:53 AM
3

I have not, and google wasn't too helpful. Do you have a vid/link?
/r/PussyPass11/09/15 10:41 AM
3

Ah yeah, I saw one of those podracer video type things, and that definitely looked interesting. They cost a pretty penny, though, so I gotta get a job and save up
/r/PussyPass11/09/15 10:40 AM
5

No, but I'm interested, I guess. It's something I'll probably delve into in a couple years, perhaps when some robotics kits/options are available to do cool stuff with (I don't much care for the high aerial shots and maneuvering, but do love the actual flight aspect).
/r/PussyPass11/09/15 10:36 AM
8

Hahaha, yep, that one. I had it saved and just got around to watching it today.
/r/PussyPass11/09/15 10:31 AM
20

Seriously. I thought this was an open and shut case when I heard about it. I ran into it again because of that recent videos post about a dad accusing/implying a dude flying his drone was spying on a girls' soccer game.
/r/PussyPass11/09/15 10:28 AM
0

That's how she cums, I guarantee it
/r/PussyPassDenied11/09/15 10:23 AM
11

This isn't PPD, just PP
/r/PussyPassDenied11/09/15 09:55 AM
1

A separate right includes the right to life. It's a right that can be infringed upon, like any other, but it's still "guaranteed."
/r/PussyPassDenied11/09/15 09:48 AM
7

It seems like a fair legal judgment (disregarding the judgment for the woman). It's clearly not self-defense. I'd say probation is reasonable.
/r/PussyPassDenied11/09/15 09:34 AM
13

Not sure if this has been posted. Really ticked me off, considering it was clear assault and she was facing fines and over a year of jail time (and she didn't even stay in jail while awaiting her court date). Sexism. EDIT: Here's probably a better link - http://www.nydailynews.com/news/crime/conn-woman-attacked-teen-drone-seeks-probation-article-1.1836545 It was before the probation was granted, though.
/r/PussyPass11/09/15 08:01 AM
1

Yeah, no rush, whenever you get the chance. Although at this point, I think I believe you. Even if you're a troll, you're dedicated enough to reel me in :PP
/r/PussyPassDenied31/08/15 05:50 AM
1

You mention in another comment you have recordings of the court case. I'd be happy with any sort of news article or recording or anything like that corroborating your story.
/r/PussyPassDenied31/08/15 05:09 AM
2

Maybe for guys. Idk, you're the second person saying it's likely enough, so idk.
/r/PussyPassDenied30/08/15 07:35 PM
1

You must not have heard him cite the 78% wage gap. I'm letting it slide as a necessity for securing the women vote, but it's still bullshit.
/r/PussyPassDenied30/08/15 10:06 AM
7

It's ok, I'll explain. The wife never tried to use the pussypass, and therefore, it can't be denied. She didn't hit him, she hit the girlfriend, which doesn't assume a pussypass.
/r/PussyPassDenied30/08/15 09:35 AM
3

Yeah, ain't none of that shit happened. A family disowning her for lying about rape? We all know that doesn't happen. Parents don't disown kids for stuff like that, even if it is fucked up.
/r/PussyPassDenied30/08/15 09:30 AM
1

And take away 5 (arguably of their best) years of their life? Nah, that's too much. I'm not opposed to jail time, though. She did make threats and a person like that can easily instigate violence.
/r/PussyPassDenied30/08/15 09:22 AM
3

Good, I was worried someone here was going to call him a white knight. Thought he was smart for trying to keep the reasonable person calm while they waited for the next stop.
/r/PussyPassDenied30/08/15 09:17 AM
1

then grabbed her He didn't do it first. Rewatch it. He's reacting with the kick/deflection and the grab. He was never the aggressor.
/r/PussyPassDenied30/08/15 09:11 AM
1

then this guy comes over and attacks her and her dog for it. This is what he got downvoted for. The guy didn't attack her dog, and certainly didn't attack her. He thought the dog was jumping for him, and protected his dog and himself. Yes, it wasn't the "proper" choice, and if he was perhaps more aware/informed, it wouldn't have happened. But the fact remains that the girl tries to start shit with him and goes crazy.
/r/PussyPassDenied30/08/15 09:09 AM
1

I don't think he's a white knight. His focus was on getting them apart, and when he saw he was headed towards the exit, he pulled the girl away from there. The escorting part was probably just him trying to help him out, since it could be tricky while the guy is carrying his dog. The green shirt dude's the actual white knight imho, since even though he sees who's grabbing who and is the one who helps break it up, he faces the man as if he's standing up against him.
/r/PussyPassDenied30/08/15 09:06 AM
1

Bitchfit. She's not angry, she's hysterical because it's the only thing she knows how to do in such a situation.
/r/PussyPassDenied30/08/15 08:53 AM
2

Being a stalker is sending 3 texts at a time, being a creep is asking a girl out that isn't going to say yes, and harassing is saying "you're wrong."
/r/MensRights29/08/15 09:18 AM
5

Think of him what you want, but he's a leader. Anything he tries to push, if congress is republican, some will be implemented. But realistically, I just don't think he has a chance.
/r/MensRights29/08/15 09:14 AM
1

But SRS is totes the real brigade!! Wait...
/r/MensRights20/08/15 07:18 AM
1

TIL 2am sloots are doing "gay shit."
/r/PussyPassDenied18/08/15 11:19 AM
1

I wanted to disagree, but I doubt they would've helped a man in a similar situation. Right you are
/r/PussyPass18/08/15 09:45 AM
1

Do you have a source for that?
/r/PussyPass18/08/15 09:33 AM
1

If denied, then post it on the sub /r/pussypassdenied
/r/PussyPass18/08/15 08:30 AM
1

considering the only information we have, and the stance of everything that it's a cause of mistreatment Are you talking about the video title and the copied title onto this post? Because that's all we have, and the video's not good enough to even verify his lip was busted. csi this shit and get back to us. Oh, Mr. Funny Man. How come every time I say "we can't say that, there's not enough evidence," someone tries to put the onus of proof on me? I'm not doing shit except saying this doesn't have…
/r/PussyPassDenied06/08/15 05:34 PM
3

Meh, I don't like taking pleasure in people undeservedly getting mistreated. I'd rather have solid justification
/r/PussyPassDenied06/08/15 09:30 AM
3

Of course it's retaliatory, but the question is "was it justified?" Did she simply insult him and he overreacted, or did she first try to kick him in the balls? We shouldn't assume.
/r/PussyPassDenied06/08/15 09:16 AM
1

Indeed, especially since those people can help with the "smartness" part, which can refer to knowing the system and culture and how to get things done to achieve your goals efficiently.
/r/PussyPassDenied03/08/15 10:10 AM
5

It's unreasonable to assume anything, because it's also not unreasonable for him to be the aggressor.
/r/PussyPassDenied03/08/15 04:42 AM
23

I kinda like it, despite its annoyingness, because I know it irritated her even more.
/r/PussyPassDenied03/08/15 04:38 AM
6

It's not just that. Put yourself in their place. Where would your information come from? What would you look at to determine how life is in America? Our standard of living is much higher than those developing countries, but our required work is also higher. In the developing countries, the family might have their own home, an established way to make money, having enough to live well enough. There's greater potential in the US, but even just getting up through the bottom takes some dedication and…
/r/PussyPassDenied03/08/15 04:13 AM
1

It's a uni bus. There's a different culture and different expectations. Sure they were being loud and obnoxious, and if that was her complaint, you would be showing the double standard. But she's complaining about the content of the banter, which is why they are different situations.
/r/PussyPassDenied02/08/15 11:52 AM
2

Why is he putting me through this? What am I supposed to do? Holy shit, those were actual quotes. Lmao
/r/PussyPassDenied02/08/15 11:27 AM
2

I'm late, but this is India, and is most definitely a PPD, considering the cultural context. The police are quite corrupt and any man trying to touch a woman (sexually/violently) could easily get in trouble, especially as in this case where the woman seems to be of high class and the man is a lowly worker. He did all he could do and didn't listen to her bullshit. I'll take it.
/r/PussyPassDenied02/08/15 11:23 AM
2

Oh my fucking god. Women screaming like toddlers piss me the fuck off. And then she has no empathy for him. Fuck that bitch.
/r/PussyPassDenied02/08/15 09:54 AM
4

I agree with all this. I think he prob does too, once he realizes PPD and being an asshole aren't mutually exclusive (I didn't realize until your comment).
/r/PussyPassDenied17/07/15 05:23 AM
3

Bellyflopping (not sure if it was a faceplant, but that would just make it worse) 3 feet from the air is going to hurt, especially if you've got someone pushing from on top. She's not enough of a threat to warrant that (same with a man). She was already handcuffed and didn't look like she was trying to do anything more. He just wanted to show her who's boss for the disrespect.
/r/PussyPassDenied17/07/15 05:21 AM
10

these people are sickeningly ignorant of their own civilisation's long struggle to achieve the kind of liberties they so casually disregard How true that rings, in multiple ways.
/r/MensRights18/06/15 08:27 PM
7

And those were just tits, something that almost everyone has (to some degree)
/r/MensRights12/06/15 07:18 PM
1

Do you have multiple, experienced hackers trying to leak your nudes? I didn't think so
/r/MensRights12/06/15 06:59 PM
2

He was probably just referring to himself
/r/MensRights12/06/15 06:57 PM
7

push the MRM agenda while bashing the MRAs boogieman. The problem is, attacking MRM gives legitimacy to one's claims, while trying to uphold the MRM and fight for its agenda only makes it more difficult.
/r/MensRights12/06/15 06:56 PM
2

I believe it, based on my understanding of the world. The logic makes sense to me. Doesn't mean I'll state it as fact or even as belief to the opposition, but it's a statement that rings true for me because of the steps it takes from the information we have. I don't need definitive proof to believe in something, because at that point, it becomes a fact I "know."
/r/MensRights12/06/15 05:05 AM
2

Thank you for sharing that quote.
/r/MensRights12/06/15 04:56 AM
1

Ok, on the real though, that's not an unheard of way of dealing with such an experience. Let's stick with the other, more conclusive evidence pointing to her dishonesty, rather than psychoanalyzing her actions and possibly hurting rape victims' credibility even more than she already has.
/r/MensRights06/06/15 07:17 AM
1

She went to them after going to the college people, which was 7 months after the incident.
/r/MensRights06/06/15 07:13 AM
2

I went through his history, and I think he's just advocating for the use of a semi colon, lol. He uses an asterisk to correct comments, and there was one where he corrects a couple words and writes *; in response to a comment that uses a comma improperly (and should be a period...or a semi colon). For the parent comment, the comma after "rape" should also be a period or a semi colon.
/r/MensRights23/05/15 06:12 PM
1

Ohhhhh, man, I totally missed that. I had it in my head, but I thought it was going to be brought up immediately, and by the end, I completely missed the reference. Thanks
/r/MensRights23/05/15 11:35 AM
1

When did the eye twitching happen? What made it relevant? I thought they were good with the dog running out, because I remember it, but it didn't register as anything. I just watched it an hour ago, and I think I've pulled an all-nighter at this point (7:30 am right now), so maybe I was just tired.
/r/MensRights23/05/15 11:28 AM
1

What was the eye twitching? And how did the dog foreshadow?
/r/MensRights23/05/15 11:15 AM
6

You've been spamming that. What's it even mean?
/r/MensRights23/05/15 11:03 AM
6

Politics aside, the show is just bad. Like, the jokes, the different segments, and the host already being so predictable. I understand most shows have a rough start and take some time to find their rhythm, but I just don't see much hope for it.
/r/MensRights23/05/15 11:02 AM
2

I mean, I guess I'd support that, but it just doesn't seem practical. People would still see it as female GM, unless we had a huge PSA campaign, which I don't think is even worth it.
/r/MensRights19/05/15 09:19 PM
2

Yeah, I think that would help get the point across better.
/r/MensRights19/05/15 06:13 PM
1

Because it's simply not? Although, reading it again, I guess you meant to imply that men don't have any rights that women don't? If so, I find it hard to argue against that.
/r/MensRights19/05/15 06:07 PM
1

I understand, and I'm definitely not advocating for stuff like that to be censored/criticized. Rather, I'm annoyed by the hypocrisy in implying that a strip club is inherently misogynistic (presumably due to "objectification"), while not having a problem objectifying a show host on mainstream television.
/r/MensRights19/05/15 08:26 AM
1

Add them up and compare to see who goes on to win the grand prize! and count the number of injustices society perpetuates. It's not a zero sum game.
/r/MensRights19/05/15 07:51 AM
2

I think they're the only ones who should go to prison? Since they're not parents, and I think she was calling for protection for parents?
/r/MensRights19/05/15 07:43 AM
1

Of course. I'm on your side. I think it should be handled by the police and colleges should act based on what the investigation reveals. However, I also support their right to act in ways to protect their interests (without discrimination, which is illegal). Personally, I think they should treat it how they treat other crimes (for example, if you get caught/charged with drugs, you can often lose scholarships/aid and sometimes expelled). The university shouldn't be the first point of contact for …
/r/MensRights19/05/15 06:17 AM
3

yeah except the woman is not trying to steal money from him I wasn't aware of that. In that case, just nix my second paragraph. His point (pushing an innocent man and taking everything he has, namely his freedom, can result in something terrible) is valid. I do think mentioning killing her when she's not directly responsible for his plight is a shameful thing.
/r/MensRights19/05/15 06:01 AM
3

He's not supporting it? At least, I didn't read it that way. On the other hand, if a person was trying to steal $30k from you, wouldn't you do everything in your power to stop them? If I had a concealed carry and a person tried to mug me, I'd certainly threaten to shoot to get them to leave me alone. And that's just for stealing my wallet/phone/whatever else I might have on me.
/r/MensRights19/05/15 05:49 AM
1

Because the universities have a vested interest in creating a safe environment for their students. It's like how HR can fire a person for whatever reason (such as harassment), without having to have the same evidence as required in the court of law. It's just their right as a business acting to protect its interests.
/r/MensRights19/05/15 05:33 AM
1

When you fuck with someone's life, they can resort to extreme measures. It's basically warning of the eventuality of a horrible tragedy because the government can't get its shit straight and treat people fairly. The most dangerous creation of any society is the man who has nothing to lose. - James A. Baldwin
/r/MensRights19/05/15 05:27 AM
10

Did you mean MGM?
/r/MensRights19/05/15 05:22 AM
1

It is worth noting that if she turns up pregnant from this, the victim will be held liable - under threat of prison - to make child support payments to her for the next 18 years. Think of the child! What did s/he do wrong?! /s Nothing, just support him with public assistance like any other kid whose family has financial trouble.
/r/MensRights19/05/15 05:05 AM
2

Ah, yeah, forgot that it's dated. It's admittedly a problem, but I don't think it's fair to dismiss it outright. Could've gone up or down
/r/MensRights09/05/15 12:36 AM
0

Where do the consequences of child fall? How would you suggest the child be supported?
/r/MensRights08/05/15 10:14 PM
0

That's a problem with how the taxes are being used, not how they're being collected. Also, I don't really mind. It's a drop in the bucket relative to other spending, and I'd rather have a female leech than a severely poor child (it would be bad enough not having a father around and being used as a bargaining chip). I'd rather everyone pitch in a little for the sake of the child than shaft one unlucky guy.
/r/MensRights08/05/15 07:07 PM
1

I understand, but that's due to their income, not their gender. Unless there's some gendered system I'm not aware of?
/r/MensRights08/05/15 05:49 PM
2

I think that's true, which is why I think it's a reasonable number. If anything, it's conservative, but still pokes a big hole in feminist rhetoric.
/r/MensRights08/05/15 05:48 PM
2

Yes, you can Google and go to Wikipedia. Fbi has that figure, I believe. Another has 9%. An actual study of a little more than 100 accusations in one place (European country, I believe) were around 6%. One mrm figure is 40%, which is ridiculous, but is probably there to combat the feminist 2% rate, which either comes from an anecdote of an anecdote (refers to something a police commissioner or someone else in power said about how rarely it happens), or as a comparison to other crimes' false accu…
/r/MensRights08/05/15 05:46 PM
1

Hmm, I'm gonna be incorporating those ideas next time. Nice response
/r/MensRights08/05/15 05:43 PM
2

Meh, they get it from working people. It's only biased for genders because income is different (due to many complex factors). I don't consider taxes extortion. We all benefit from their use, despite the flaws inherent in the system.
/r/MensRights08/05/15 05:42 PM
10

I totally missed that. I stand by my accusation, though. I'm as confident in it as she is in hers.
/r/MensRights08/05/15 06:12 AM
2

Why...even comment? Like, seriously, why? What was the purpose behind expressing these thoughts of yours?
/r/MensRights08/05/15 06:03 AM
2

women still did about 1.7 times as much housework as men in 2012. In other words, the average man would need to increase his housework output by 70 percent to be as productive on chores as the average woman. Or, maybe we're just a lot faster? (in bed, harhar) Or, maybe we don't have as high standards for house upkeep? Or, maybe we are more focused on our job, and are putting in more hours there? Or, maybe our job is more tiring and we require more rest? Plenty of other explanations...
/r/MensRights08/05/15 05:52 AM
44

That's the best part. It's no longer "false accusations never happen," but it's being replaced with "false accusations happen so infrequently, you should be more worried about being struck by lightning" (I've heard this particular analogy thrown at me twice in the past month). My continuation of their analogy is about comparing a person at risk of false accusations (a person that has many casual partners and isn't in a committed relationship) should be worried, just like a person in a pool shoul…
/r/MensRights08/05/15 05:48 AM
40

and the state should pay child support costs It's like people don't understand that there are solutions other than extorting money from men.
/r/MensRights08/05/15 05:29 AM
19

Kinda like false rape accusations, although they don't pull that one out much any more. I've been running into it regularly still, and I'm not even on gender issue subs (although, /r/AskMen can sometimes become a battlefield for gender wars).
/r/MensRights08/05/15 05:27 AM
15

She must be a pedo
/r/MensRights08/05/15 05:25 AM
8

I would have just been lost for words if I was Whoopi. I was like "uhh.....what? I can't even."
/r/MensRights27/03/15 12:02 AM
8

Yeah, there's always a middleground. If a person is stronger, that doesn't give them permission to break half the bones in the other person's body. It does give them the power to protect themselves, even if that means knocking the other person out, which should be allowable if the other person started it.
/r/MensRights27/03/15 12:01 AM
0

What does that have to do with anything? I said "Proportional discipline to the severity of the wrongdoing." Clearly that should be 25-life (or death penalty), just like the law states. Why would you even make such a stupid comment?
/r/PussyPassDenied31/12/14 09:20 PM
1

Ohhh, I see. Woops.
/r/PussyPassDenied31/12/14 06:32 PM
-3

And how exactly did the counts of contempt help? Seems like she just got annoyed and left, as she was going to do in the first place, and the days in jail did nothing.
/r/PussyPassDenied30/12/14 07:51 PM
1

Read her top comment. He was a cheater. She just didn't make an accurately worded meme.
/r/PussyPassDenied29/12/14 06:40 PM
-5

what's to stop them from continuously speaking out and disrupting the proceedings throughout? The bailiff that can remove them from the premises.
/r/PussyPassDenied29/12/14 06:29 PM
-14

How about just don't be an asshole? The woman was, and she should have gotten punished for it, but what about the judge? He's giving her 300 days and I think it's completely bullshit. "It is high time, in my judgment, to wipe out root and branch the judge-invented and judge-maintained notion that judges can try criminal contempt cases without a jury." -Hugo Black
/r/PussyPassDenied28/12/14 06:41 PM
1

I will expect no consequences for making a scene How does this address my comment? I said she doesn't expect no consequences, so she isn't trying to use her pussypass in the slightest.
/r/PussyPassDenied28/12/14 04:49 PM
1

I respect a person who doesn't expect shit from anyone. There aren't very many people like that. Again, I don't like her attitude, but I respect her for not giving a fuck and not bein a pussy.
/r/PussyPassDenied28/12/14 04:48 PM
10

Depends what videos are featured there. Or is her whole channel featured there? She has some good stuff, especially in regards to sex education. (Not defending her stances on feminism, of course.)
/r/PussyPassDenied28/12/14 04:47 PM
1

She didn't try to use her pussypass
/r/PussyPassDenied28/12/14 04:43 PM
-10

You don't get it. What's there not to get? I think contempt of court should have a max sentence of 60 days. Anything more is ridiculous. Can you imagine 10 months of your life wasted because you can't speak freely? That's a judge on a power trip, not an arbiter of justice.
/r/PussyPassDenied28/12/14 04:40 PM
2

Can't talk sense to these people, though. They want blood, not a better society, and they usually get it. I'm so glad the mother/wife had made a sort of peace with the situation and was satisfied by the sentence. If she approves of it, I don't see why everyone else can't either.
/r/PussyPass28/12/14 06:44 AM
1

He didn't serve a year in jail. It had just been a year since he had been jailed (and quickly released) due to the pending charges.
/r/PussyPass28/12/14 05:47 AM
-13

I'm a man. I understand. I was mostly disputing how "she cared very little about going home." She was def in contempt and deserved 60 days (no more).
/r/PussyPassDenied28/12/14 05:35 AM
7

35 FUCKING DAYS!?
/r/PussyPassDenied28/12/14 05:30 AM
-14

No, it didn't. Her offense was contempt of court. I think that should have a max cap of 60 days. Being holed up for two months for being disrespectful sounds reasonable. Being holed up for almost a year just for a momentary lapse in judgement and dismissive words?? Nah, fuck that.
/r/PussyPassDenied28/12/14 05:13 AM
1

Ha, I was just trying to submit this. Nice.
/r/PussyPassDenied28/12/14 04:44 AM
-18

her lack of self control is what makes her indignant bitch in my book Fair enough. I think up to 60 days was justified, since she was definitely in contempt. But after that, the judge was being a dick.
/r/PussyPassDenied28/12/14 04:39 AM
32

Youtube personality. Guest-host for sourcefed. Has her own channel. Often discusses sex and other gendered topics. Maybe other topics, but I'm not too familiar. EDIT: Guest-host, not host. I watched Sourcefed a couple years ago and that's where I had first heard of her. She wasn't a regular.
/r/PussyPassDenied28/12/14 04:08 AM
4

when they act up expecting no consequences. And this is why I don't think this video belongs here. She didn't expect shit, and I respect her for it. She probably did something wrong and I don't like her attitude, so I'm not at all defending her as a person. But there was absolutely no attempt at using her /r/PussyPass ... she's just a person getting unfairly punished who happens to be a woman.
/r/PussyPassDenied28/12/14 03:39 AM
-16

How would you feel if someone told you you couldn't go home? I'm not saying she didn't deserve that restriction, but it's going to inspire an emotional response in most people. In her mind, "oh, I can't go home? Well, fuck it, what do I have to lose? I'll stay here with a warm shelter and semi-edible food."
/r/PussyPassDenied28/12/14 03:36 AM
-11

fuck that. totally disagree. Proportional discipline to the severity of the wrongdoing.
/r/PussyPassDenied28/12/14 03:33 AM
4

Disagree on what part? That you have to roll down your window all the way? Plenty of defense lawyers (like Paul Kubosh), the people at Flex your Rights, and the ACLU agree that you don't. Regardless, there's an ongoing case that should clear things up about how the court feels.
/r/PussyPassDenied27/12/14 01:09 AM
3

you so that you don't try to pull something like that at a stop and end up in jail with a criminal record Plenty of people have already done this and they haven't gotten charged with shit. She refused to get out of her vehicle, and that was her problem. You don't have to do everything a cop says. If he says "open the glove box," you don't have to. If he says "suck my dick," you don't have to. If he says "roll your window down fully," you don't have to. Here's a full explanation (albeit biased) o…
/r/PussyPassDenied27/12/14 12:07 AM
1

"88"
/r/PussyPassDenied26/12/14 10:33 PM
3

Yeah, stepping out is necessary. She didn't have to roll down the window, though.
/r/PussyPassDenied26/12/14 10:32 PM
3

They can't force someone to roll down the window completely. Of course, if you don't want to get out of the car, rolling down the window would be the best option, but there's no law that says you have to do everything a policeman says.
/r/PussyPassDenied26/12/14 10:24 PM
3

Oh, yeah, I can see that.
/r/PussyPassDenied26/12/14 08:04 AM
15

When the girl near the camera says "fuck you, you lil cunt," she follows up with "that guy just fucked over some girl." I took that as her being angry at the guy for hitting her.
/r/PussyPassDenied26/12/14 07:37 AM
11

Way too late to the party, but Fatality. Flawless Victory. FTFY
/r/PussyPassDenied26/12/14 06:46 AM
20

They were calling the guy a cunt.
/r/PussyPassDenied26/12/14 06:27 AM
1

Yep, has to be controlled.
/r/MensRights30/05/14 07:53 PM
1

'srs' place
/r/MensRights26/05/14 12:41 AM
6

Nah, she'll probably get sentenced to 3 years, which will get suspended due to het special case in being a woman that's denied sex.
/r/MensRights25/05/14 04:48 PM
1

A hopeful chance, since the world is prone to gradual change. We're at the beginning of the movement. First wave. It takes a few years, and we're already seeing some changes being made.
/r/MensRights24/05/14 05:26 PM
17

Privilege
/r/MensRights23/05/14 06:53 PM
35

They indirectly endorsed her actions, which seems like rape culture to me.
/r/MensRights23/05/14 06:47 PM
1

It probably wouldn't leave injuries as long as it was controlled, but if it did, it most certainly would not seem like self-defense. It's more of a pain-inflicting submission rather than a subduing/restraining one. I mean, yes, pretty much all submissions "restrain," but this one focuses on inflicting pain instead of simply keeping the person still.
/r/MensRights23/05/14 08:57 AM
1

Well, it certainly hasn't been publicized as much, since I wasn't aware of it. I was saying more from a cultural standpoint.
/r/MensRights23/05/14 06:54 AM
1

I wouldn't say an 8 year old is raped if they decided to give a blowjob of their own accord. It shouldn't be the legal responsibility of someone to prevent another person from active of their own volition. Ever. And, sure, she was legally raping him, I'm not denying that. This whole thread started with me declaring my views on rape and how they are consistent. It has nothing to do with how consent is currently viewed by the law (because I think it's flawed).
/r/MensRights23/05/14 01:30 AM
1

It's not rape to lay there and take it. Otherwise she couldn't claim he raped her if he forced himself on her. It's not her (legal) responsibility to push him off or refuse giving him what he's asking for, provided that it doesn't put him at risk of bodily harm. Again, based on the information that's been provided, I believe she (Steubenville) was raped.
/r/MensRights23/05/14 12:13 AM
5

Well, its part of bro culture. Girls don't generally do stuff like this, but guys will take funny pics, draw dicks on faces, etc. Seems like a wall poster more than an ad.
/r/MensRights22/05/14 08:14 PM
1

Because, based on the info presented, the guy initiated the encounter and persisted throughout the incident. The girl only went around with them, but did not consent to having her clothes removed, pictures taken of her, or being penetrated (by fingers).
/r/MensRights22/05/14 08:07 PM
1

I've showed the differences between the cases and how my views remain consistent.
/r/MensRights22/05/14 07:47 PM
1

Yeah, called her over. I agree.
/r/MensRights22/05/14 07:46 PM
1

Why can't I say she didn't rape him? Based on the story she gave us, I would say she didn't.
/r/MensRights22/05/14 08:53 AM
1

Ah, I see. Well, it's hard for me to believe that. Based on what has been presented to me, I have to say it's rape. I can totally believe the parents pressuring her and her not necessarily regretting it, but I'm guessing that has more to do with her not remembering it. She was unconscious while they touched her ("allegedly"), and that constitutes rape in my book. It wasn't her doing things to them. I'm sorry, with the information available, I just can't agree with this not being rape.
/r/MensRights22/05/14 07:03 AM
1

Hmm, if that's true, then fuck that. Do you have a link for the video?
/r/MensRights22/05/14 06:54 AM
1

Based on any semi-reliable information I can get on the incident, it seems like she did not like what happened to her and did not consent to being treated that way. There were photos and videos. There were plenty of witnesses admitting that it was rape. What more can you want? She wasn't already semi-conscious while she went out on her own to find these guys. She ended up with them and ended up unconscious while they raped her.
/r/MensRights22/05/14 06:21 AM
1

Usually, yes, that seems to be the case.
/r/MensRights21/05/14 11:12 PM
1

Legally, I don't think it should have been rape since he was initiating and pursuing the action. But morally, yes, she should have stopped. He was aware enough to set up a booty call and turn on music and perform without assistance, so I don't think this should be considered rape. (But under our current laws, it most certainly should be)
/r/MensRights21/05/14 07:23 PM
2

That's not the same. She was unconscious (or, at least, that's the story and I believe it). Amy was with a guy who initiated the whole thing and continued through his own volition. Feminists would consider this rape if the genders were reversed, so their views are conflicting. I don't consider this rape, regardless of the genders. The man wasn't unconscious, at least not when the actions were occurring. And he most certainly consented (by my definition, but not the definition of the law or of th…
/r/MensRights21/05/14 07:21 PM
1

Yes, me too, if you're into that. But I think most people end up engaging them or at least raging silently. Kat was my favorite. Don't know if she was serious, but don't care.
/r/MensRights21/05/14 08:05 AM
11

I don't think she raped him. My views are consistent, so I can agree with the puffin, which leads to me saying she didn't rape him. But when debating, it depends on the issue. Feminists want to say the puffin is wrong, then I'd say "isn't Amy a rapist?" If they say she's not, then I'd summarize the puffin.
/r/MensRights21/05/14 07:28 AM
7

It must be the first one because otherwise I can't tell my friends my ex is a rapist. /s
/r/MensRights21/05/14 07:25 AM
7

Yes, but it's so hard for me to comprehend how a person can be so blatantly and willfully dishonest. Like, s/he picked the worst comment in a thread and claimed that's the reason MRM is disliked. At least we pick cherries that have been upvoted/applauded on popular feminist sites.
/r/MensRights21/05/14 07:24 AM
1

I enjoy those sorts of comments. I have faith that it's a troll, so my faith in humanity keeps me from losing faith in humanity. After that, I get to appreciate the humor by placing myself at the position of the troll, like we're both secretly laughing at what they wrote. But some are trolls that just want to piss you off. Fuck them.
/r/MensRights21/05/14 07:17 AM
5

It's b/c it's his car and fence, so it's just a hobby. But our house, which I want immaculate without any good reason besides personal preference, needs both of our contributions to help clean and maintain. /s
/r/MensRights20/05/14 11:16 PM
9

Btw, don't read the comments. They're a bunch of trolls and such. You read at the risk of your IQ points.
/r/MensRights20/05/14 11:03 PM
27

This comment encapsulates why people think men's rights is a joke I think it has more to do with propaganda and skewed views of what the MRM really is. Why would you pick the comment with the lowest score instead of any other one (at the time of my writing this)?
/r/MensRights20/05/14 11:01 PM
5

I wouldn't say it's harmful. I can acknowledge this is discrimination and be pissed about it while recognizing that I, as an individual, benefit from this policy in not having to sit next to kids.
/r/MensRights20/05/14 06:57 PM
5

A paedophile
/r/MensRights20/05/14 06:52 PM
1

No, I don't, but I'm pretty sure it's a very low number.
/r/MensRights20/05/14 06:46 PM
1

The witnesses are the ones getting molested, so yes, there are always witnesses (unless they're dead). There's no such complement in cases of absolving a person of guilt (besides the false accusers, who would be unlikely to testify with a harsh punishment in place).
/r/MensRights20/05/14 12:11 AM
1

For point 1, it's as close to 1/6 as it is for 1/5. But your other points are valid.
/r/MensRights19/05/14 10:14 PM
2

makes sense, but it's also correlated with increase in buying power of the people, since they can buy computers/internet.
/r/MensRights19/05/14 10:12 PM
12

Yes, it should be required to print screen it or include the whole quote.
/r/MensRights19/05/14 06:47 PM
1

And what about 16? Do kids magically understand what a baby is on their sweet sixteen. It's ridiculous to think the average human can make good decisions for the long term. We see this all the time with overspending, loans, lotteries, etc. Humans didn't evolve to make such decisions based on abstract numbers (money). They evolved to want sex once they mature. I think 16 is a reasonable limit, but there's not a huge difference between 15 and 16. It's arbitrary, and not ridiculous for some countri…
/r/MensRights19/05/14 06:36 PM
1

Yes, of course. Even if it's not reasonable, the punishments should be given out fairly, without bias.
/r/MensRights19/05/14 04:24 AM
1

Ohhh, yes, you are correct, sir. 38% of all incidences of rape were perpetrated by a woman during the year. Accurate.
/r/MensRights18/05/14 09:00 PM
1

EDIT: Nvm, had a brain fart. /u/c0mputar 's right. Wait, where did you get that from? AFAIK, the 38% figure was the proportion of male victims and there was a similar figure (40%) that was incorrectly calculated to determine number of female perpetrators (although it would be in the ballpark, probably).
/r/MensRights18/05/14 07:56 PM
4

Yeah, makes sense
/r/MensRights18/05/14 07:42 PM
35

I don't think this was agency avoidance. If I was making a similar comment, I would also conclude with a general statement instead of a personal one because it would be my final point that I'd want applied to any relevant situations. Agree with your first part, though.
/r/MensRights18/05/14 07:32 PM
3

What do you mean have an affair with him? Was he already married?
/r/MensRights18/05/14 07:20 PM
29

I don't think it's ridiculous to think a 15 year old can make these decisions. The age is arbitrary. What's ridiculous is applying the double standard.
/r/MensRights18/05/14 07:19 PM
1

The point is that there are witnesses who can report molesters. The only witnesses that can testify for the falsely convicted are usually the ones who falsely accused them, so we should encourage them recanting without penalizing them.
/r/MensRights18/05/14 07:11 PM
1

Ok, cool
/r/MensRights18/05/14 07:09 PM
1

I suppose... I'll give the benefit of the doubt. The comment still seems unclear to me.
/r/MensRights18/05/14 04:11 AM
5

This is what I'm counting on. This or a dog that talks, eats sandwiches, and smokes with me.
/r/MGTOW18/05/14 03:41 AM
2

Sounds like she probably wouldn't respond well (from what little info OP's post gives). Might lead to just being bitched out about how she doesn't owe him anything.
/r/MGTOW18/05/14 03:40 AM
7

"If men aren't rapists, then WHY ARE WE HERE?"
/r/MensRights18/05/14 03:35 AM
10

Well, one of the biggest programs (at least, in my experience) is a basic stats course. Helps you see through bullshit numbers so easily. Just takes a little learning and guidance.
/r/MensRights18/05/14 03:34 AM
4

Lolll, that's the exact quote I was about to post, with the comment "correlation = causation, right guise?" (assuming such things have actually been surveyed/documented)
/r/MensRights18/05/14 03:33 AM
1

Did we read the same article? This was a good article.
/r/MensRights18/05/14 02:54 AM
7

and /r/TumblrInAction
/r/MensRights18/05/14 01:57 AM
1

You're so full of shit, but don't worry. You'll realise this soon enough, white knight. Ok, I'm not reading any more. If you've seen any of my other comments in this sub, you'll see I'm not a "white knight." I'm always about protecting freedom of choice, which is what I'm doing here just like on all other issues.
/r/MensRights17/05/14 08:51 PM
1

Would I do that with the genders reversed? Of course I would "come up with qualifiers within which I defend actions." But in this specific issue, I don't think biology really allows for a converse situation... Informing the father would prevent the mother from giving him up for adoption (in my view on legislation; not necessarily on current legislation). This would mean the mother might not give custody for not wanting to give child support or having the interact with the father. She also couldn…
/r/MensRights17/05/14 07:49 PM
2

Hmm, yeah, that's true. I don't agree with the statutory rape examples, since they ruled it "consensual" (at least at the ones I remember looking at). But the oral one def hits the spot. I wish it wasn't this way, but they are precedents and the ruling follows these.
/r/MensRights17/05/14 06:51 PM
1

Yes, I'm coming up with qualifiers within which I'd defend her actions. I'm not going to support her actions in all circumstances, which is why I'm mentioning these "excuses." If the father doesn't know about it, then I don't think she has a responsibility to tell him. At the very least, she might keep the child because she doesn't want to pay child support or have contact with the father, since she can't give her up for adoption. For the child's sake, if the father is unaware, there shouldn't b…
/r/MensRights17/05/14 06:46 PM
1

I agree about evidence beigg required, but I don't think "many" mothers do this "often." It's a rare occurrence, which doesn't mean it doesn't need attention and due process, but it's not as common as your comment implies.
/r/MensRights17/05/14 06:35 PM
1

Except the law can already catch them. The children are the victims and all they have to do is tell someone. How exactly is this at all comparable?? If a person is convicted, the only way they get out is through someone recanting or through an appeal, and appeals generally don't help. There are plenty of cases where recanted statements have led to freedom. We shouldn't stop them.
/r/MensRights17/05/14 06:33 PM
1

Were they married/together? Was the father aware of the child? If not, it's a stretch to say it's actually kidnapping.
/r/MensRights17/05/14 06:29 PM
3

Yes, but the general argument would be "Oh, shoulda worn a condom or kept it in his pants," but in this case it doesn't have any physical interaction involved that has resulted in a "natural" process that would continue without intervention.
/r/MensRights17/05/14 08:57 AM
5

But this is a special case, so I think a precedent could be set. It's a very "objective" decision for the woman to have children, since they're frozen embryos outside her body that can be implanted whenever. Widows/widowers have to support their children on their own, especially if their deceased spouse wasn't working (or didn't have some for of insurance, the specifics of which I'm unaware), and that's certainly not a choice. I don't see why he'd have to pay if he doesn't have any rights over t…
/r/MensRights17/05/14 03:42 AM
1

Hey, if the guy was being accused, the media would still mention the divorce. It would just be used as evidence of its validity rather than falsehood by the general public.
/r/MensRights17/05/14 03:19 AM
2

Well, there's always the problem of coercion, so I don't agree with the "half second" bit. But unless they're investigating into the possibility of her (or the other accusers) being coerced, let the man go.
/r/MensRights17/05/14 03:11 AM
15

Yes, but I agree with the policy they have now (no penalty for recanting after convictions). I'd rather have the innocent set free rather than "serve justice" onto the liars. Unfair? Yes. But also practical.
/r/MensRights17/05/14 03:10 AM
-2

Good solution, but i don't think the mother should be jailed...(I also haven't watched the video.) She probably didn't want to have contact with the bio father or whatever and if it's basically a sole custody arrangement (whether through law or ignorance/secrecy), putting a kid up for adoption shouldn't be criminal.
/r/MensRights17/05/14 02:43 AM
2

Well, they have them in movie form, so there really shouldn't be any excuse.
/r/MensRights17/05/14 02:10 AM
1

Yeah, nawalt, so some can be wgtow.
/r/MGTOW15/05/14 05:30 PM
1

The man woman convo was created by a feminist, so that's not really the point. Our point is that she doesn't even make an argument.
/r/MensRights15/05/14 05:27 PM
-7

Man men would prefer their woman make less than them.
/r/MensRights14/05/14 05:36 PM
1

I think the younger generation has heard it being used satirically so often, the few loonies who might say it seriously are considered sarcastic or trolls. I haven't heard it used seriously, either (that I'm aware of)
/r/MensRights13/05/14 07:47 PM
2

There's enough research that's been done to show it's not purely genetics. I'm not saying it's a choice. I'm saying it's as much of a choice as being scared or angry.
/r/MensRights13/05/14 07:18 PM
1

Yeah, definitely, but no need to stoop to their level in the other direction.
/r/MGTOW13/05/14 07:14 AM
2

It's all in your head. "You don't choose your sexuality" is like saying "you don't choose to be scared."
/r/MensRights13/05/14 07:14 AM
6

You see? I hadn't heard of it, and now that I have, I heard it was bad, so I won't bother watching it :D
/r/MensRights12/05/14 09:35 PM
3

Thought it sounded familiar. They totally rip the hormone bit.
/r/MensRights12/05/14 08:31 PM
8

I'm for the boycott. It's not censorship, it's expressing our disapproval and hitting them where it hurts.
/r/MensRights12/05/14 08:28 PM
3

There are still good shows and movies..
/r/MensRights12/05/14 08:26 PM
2

You've heard of it, right? My logic is that if I've heard if a musical and it wasn't because it was bad, it must be really good.
/r/MensRights12/05/14 08:18 PM
7

The ones who go see it would be sorely disappointed and the ones who might enjoy it would never watch it.
/r/MensRights12/05/14 08:13 PM
1

Amen, haha
/r/MensRights12/05/14 08:09 PM
1

Ah, I wasn't aware of this, I just googled. But yeah, that makes sense; I like that.
/r/MensRights12/05/14 08:40 AM
2

Yeah, my response was ambiguous. I edited it.
/r/MensRights12/05/14 04:55 AM
1

I like your cause. Here's a downvote for your efforts.
/r/MensRights12/05/14 04:53 AM
1

Well, it is ally, not asexual, but I think they'd be welcoming.
/r/MensRights12/05/14 04:52 AM
3

You know, I'd actually be fine with those women, since I totally understand how challenges can make ourselves feel valued. What I don't understand is the accusations... Why (attempt to) hurt someone who's just trying to do their job? If he was straight, that would be an even bigger feat and they (the girls) shouldn't have tried to punish him for it.
/r/MensRights12/05/14 04:49 AM
14

Being in men's rights is what got me into (considering) asexuality.
/r/MensRights12/05/14 04:47 AM
7

yet EDIT: I mean this in general, as our society progresses. I'd bet money that these girls aren't going to face anything, legally.
/r/MensRights12/05/14 04:46 AM
2

Wtf? Pretty much all of these can be summed up by "women lie." No need to make it a repetitive buzzfeed article.
/r/MGTOW12/05/14 02:09 AM
1

Yeah, looking back on it, I'm not sure why they did that. I looked up other, more-related words (alimony, child support, etc), but none of them involved any gender. The "rape" definitions and examples make it seem like they are purposefully pushing a feminist agenda.
/r/MensRights12/05/14 02:06 AM
1

I think what he meant was that "masculinity" as a gender role is oppressive, and that's something MRM agrees with, since it limits us.
/r/MGTOW11/05/14 10:06 PM
1

I agree. I figured this was MR and didn't understand the downvotes, but now I do. Someone should xpost to there.
/r/MGTOW11/05/14 09:59 PM
8

YOU RAPED ME!
/r/MensRights11/05/14 09:54 PM
7

Yes, I def think a man can be mgtow while married. Never should focus on appeasement, but in marriage, the couple should still act as a team. Similar to how two guys can be best friends without requiring each other for happiness or financial/emotional support, a married couple can exist with both parties focusing on self improvement and sharing experiences rather that catering to the other's needs and feeling entitled.
/r/MGTOW11/05/14 07:38 PM
6

I think it was txt msg, tho
/r/MensRights11/05/14 07:34 PM
64

YOU RAPED ME!
/r/MensRights11/05/14 07:32 PM
1

Haha, that's great
/r/MensRights11/05/14 07:22 PM
1

Hey, I'm totally agreeing with what you're saying. Just giving a likely explanation for why it was defined that way. I hope it was an old definition that wasn't updated or something.
/r/MensRights11/05/14 07:21 PM
4

Because, and I'm not saying it's right, the act of forcible sex is generally done by men, especially historically. Women generally rape through intoxication, manipulation, blackmail, etc, but men have been responsible for most of the violent rapes. This, of course, is if you actually wanted an answer and it not being rhetorical. EDIT: They have a "contact us" section. I wrote up a quick response if anyone wants to join me: The word "rapist" is defined as "typically a man." By your procedures in …
/r/MensRights11/05/14 08:43 AM
1

Well, I sort of agree. The stuff you're mentioning is the reason I think ADHD is being overdiagnosed. But there are some kids who really need help focusing, or they're simply not going to learn the required material. I had a friend who would get noticeably distracted and disruptive when he forgot to take his medicine. He was great, since he'd be funnier, but I don't think he learned much at all on those days. On the other hand, I was pretty hyper when I was young, so I was probably prone to bein…
/r/MensRights10/05/14 07:56 PM
6

I didn't see any excessive force being used. It could be seen as a dangerous situation and they had to get him down and cuffed. If he really was the aggressor (which is what it looked like on first sight), then they couldn't expect him to stop by ordering him. It all looked standard procedure.
/r/MensRights10/05/14 07:47 PM
13

Well, I don't blame them for how they acted. Based on what they saw, there was a woman that fell to the ground and a bigger man who was still standing. What's any reasonable person going to do? (I agree that the fine is bullshit, and they should have cleared that up after watching the video.)
/r/MensRights10/05/14 08:25 AM
3

Someone should xpost to femradebates, see what they think.
/r/MensRights09/05/14 06:18 PM
1

Oh, most definitely. No point in forcing babies to get circumcised when they won't be having sex until much later. I'd say they could make the circumcision consent age at 16, so if it does help, they can choose to get it before engaging in sexual activities.
/r/MensRights09/05/14 06:01 PM
2

I mean, adhd and hyperactivity certainly exists in children, and it makes sense that it's more prevalent in boys. However, I do think it's so overdiagnosed and seems like everyone benefits except the child, who generally becomes dependent on the drug for the rest of their schooling. (Doctor/pharm = money, parent/teacher = 'peace', child = addiction) It's like how as a society, we decided that getting braces in middle school was just a "normal" thing to do. If your kid is acting out a lot in scho…
/r/MensRights09/05/14 08:05 AM
1

I feel like a conspiracy theorist. So many organizations and sites are promoting circumcision as protection against disease and advertising it in Africa. But these trials are clearly biased and problematic. The navy did a study that didn't find any evidence to support it. Pretty much the only thing this can do is prevent men in africa from having sex for 6 weeks, then possibly prevent HIV by some marginal amount that comes nowhere close to a condom, and then have it as part of their culture. The…
/r/MensRights09/05/14 08:00 AM
12

more time gaining rights. Amen.
/r/MensRights09/05/14 04:35 AM
2

I was going to respond with a disclaimer about how she stopped medication and should be held responsible, but you included that, too. Agree 100%.
/r/MensRights09/05/14 04:09 AM
1

Man, I still shake my leg like that, but I've never got in trouble for it. Did you have wooden floors? All my schools had tiled floors, and carpeting over them, so it wouldn't ever make noise.
/r/MensRights09/05/14 02:40 AM
2

just saw a commercial for a pill for girls that prevents pregnancies... Great... now we can have a bunch of sex-crazed rapists. (When typing this, was intending female rapists, but I realize this can go either way.)
/r/MensRights09/05/14 02:23 AM
2

Ah, the good old days /s (I agree with what's being said here)
/r/MensRights09/05/14 01:44 AM
1

"depression" is such a variable and freely-diagnosed disease. If she wouldn't have murdered in a "normal" state, then she shouldn't be facing charges, provided her instability was out of her control. (Another commentor mentioned that she stopped taking her medication without good reason, so this would be grounds for prosecution, I believe.)
/r/MensRights09/05/14 01:21 AM
0

Ha, half the english speakers don't care; it just comes with my desire for grammatical perfection.
/r/MensRights09/05/14 01:18 AM
7

I didn't know about her going off the meds. Based on that, she should be held responsible.
/r/MensRights09/05/14 01:16 AM
2

I've seen these things so often, the thing I was most bothered by was them saying "less rights" instead of "fewer."
/r/MensRights09/05/14 12:06 AM
-2

Well, an "objective" test might be having a person not murder their children? I mean, there's "crime," usually executed for some benefit or out of malice, and then there's mental illness, which causes people to act irrationally or in self-damaging ways. If she was a "loving mother," and we don't have any information besides the murder to suggest otherwise, then she's likely mentally ill and prison isn't going to help her or society.
/r/MensRights09/05/14 12:04 AM
6

Fuck buzzfeed. I hate their shitty sensationalist titles just to bait clicks, and their misandrist stance is just diarrhea on the mudpie.
/r/MensRights08/05/14 11:54 PM
-7

Guys, again, I don't deny the existence of the pussypass, and that was at play here. But still, there's a difference between getting off solely because you are a woman and getting off because of mental illness. I believe this was the right call (based on the information they've given), and this should be the way a man is treated, as well. Basically, get mad that a man wouldn't be treated this way, not that the woman was set free.
/r/MensRights08/05/14 11:47 PM
2

I was expecting a bunch of repetition, but it only really started after #30-ish. Which means it's a pretty good list.
/r/MGTOW08/05/14 11:35 PM
1

Hmm, interesting. I didn't know the theory behind the mechanism of what was happening. That makes sense. I think I'll just make a post on femradebates and see the evidence everyone cites.
/r/MensRights08/05/14 10:49 PM
2

That's true, but once they get out, they could continue enrollment if they weren't kicked out.
/r/MensRights08/05/14 08:01 PM
1

Another commentor said something similar, but I didn't believe it. But two people saying the same thing? Yall are prob right, I'll do some more research.
/r/MensRights08/05/14 07:58 PM
2

Idk, there are enough organizations that I trust that say it helps. Could you link me to the flawed studies?
/r/MensRights08/05/14 07:52 PM
1

Yeah, def agreed.
/r/MensRights08/05/14 04:40 AM
1

Yes! Is there like a suggestion sub to send these things up the reddit chain of command?
/r/MensRights08/05/14 04:39 AM
2

Screw Jojep.
/r/MensRights08/05/14 04:38 AM
0

I mean, it is true that circumcized men are less at risk of HIV transmission (not sure why, though, I haven't looked too much into it). In africa, spreading that knowledge would likely decrease condom use, so it would be counteracted (by human psychology, not by the physics/biology of the situation).
/r/MensRights08/05/14 04:36 AM
3

Well, for some of us, it's more about being uncomfortable in compromising positions in a room full of women.. (Also, I wouldn't dare risk getting a boner there.) There's a market for it, and this guy is (rightfully) taking advantage of it.
/r/MensRights08/05/14 04:16 AM
2

I don't think it can get squashed, but I certainly expect backlash from certain ahem groups.
/r/MensRights08/05/14 04:15 AM
1

thanks!
/r/MensRights08/05/14 02:18 AM
7

Guys, don't downvote this. I agree that schools should respond to criminal charges, and expelling convicted rapists is a great idea. But they shouldn't be responsible for carrying the investigation. Let the police take care of that, and institute additional punishments to help protect students depending on the results of the trial.
/r/MensRights08/05/14 02:12 AM
2

Lol, crap, thought I was still talking to OP. But yeah, definitely deserved it. I just don't think I could bring myself to it, just like I wouldn't hit a kid, even if s/he punched me in the balls. For the girl, maybe I would give her a good shove and remove myself from the situation. (never been to these sorts of concerts, so I don't know if there's space for this; wouldn't want to piss people off if she runs into them.)
/r/MensRights08/05/14 02:05 AM
1

Oh yes, most definitely. For guys, it's generally people around our age (or our parents). I just realized you might be around her age, but assuming you're older, it just wouldn't be your place.
/r/MensRights08/05/14 01:27 AM
2

This will give me justice tingles. Do you have a link?
/r/MensRights08/05/14 01:25 AM
3

Yeah, its one of the things I look forward to as part of getting old.
/r/MGTOW07/05/14 01:06 PM
2

Oh, Idk, they may look down on you for hitting someone kind of young, but I wouldnt. From the way you described, I didn't see you being able to do much until you got up.
/r/MensRights07/05/14 12:57 PM
1

Yeah, you're right. The main thing is getting the media behind it.
/r/MensRights07/05/14 12:55 PM
2

Yes, many cops experience that stress, but some are just assholes and feel entitled to using excessive violence. Not sure if that's the case here, but if multiple witnesses say it is, there's a pretty good chance.
/r/MensRights07/05/14 12:52 PM
1

Right, that makes sense
/r/MensRights07/05/14 12:50 PM
2

what's twl?
/r/MensRights07/05/14 07:17 AM
11

At that point I think they would have saw you as the bad guy since they had already pulled her off you. I would have saw you in that light, as well, but I'd see any retaliation against an immature person that isn't a threat anymore to be "bad" (since it wouldn't be self-defense after she's pulled off).
/r/MensRights07/05/14 07:16 AM
3

I am really disinterested in relationships, but still feel lusts (I'm 21) pretty regularly. I still don't know if I want to have sex, but I enjoy the act of masturbation so long as it doesn't feel like a chore. I don't think I want to let go of that, since I've been doing it so long. And it's healthy, so I don't have a physical reason to stop that..
/r/MGTOW07/05/14 06:14 AM
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I wish one of these days, a group of citizens just pounds on a cop for being an asshole like this. If the police departments can't keep their cops in line, we need people who will. (Yes, I realize this is highly unlikely, would result in multiple arrests, and would be risky b/c the officer would have a gun, but I'd still like to see it happen, without any civilian casualties.)
/r/MensRights07/05/14 06:07 AM
0

Nice comment; led me to an interesting bit of trivia and some good Stewart footage (was too young to watch him then).
/r/MensRights07/05/14 06:03 AM
3

Yeah, I've seen some slight bias in providing girls with more privacy, but our whole society is so prudish now that guys sometimes won't use urinals beside each other, even if there are barriers between them. I'm not saying this is right or wrong, just an observation.
/r/MensRights07/05/14 04:58 AM
5

A textbook that needs to be written and taught to students
/r/MensRights07/05/14 04:31 AM
1

http://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/animals-and-us/201210/the-problem-incest First generation incest is really bad (42% chance of defects, control chance is 7%). First cousin chance is 11%. So first cousins have slightly higher chances of baby birth defects, which doesn't seem to be a big deal. I did some wiki research, and in the US, it seems the birth defects and mental cases really were the reason behind prohibiting cousin marriage, since it was legal before the Civil War.
/r/MensRights07/05/14 04:27 AM
1

you people lolwtf. First of all, I'm not an "Obama worshiper." He really let my hopes down. And yes, the buck stops with him, and I was convinced of his probable responsibility in this particular case. However, it was possible that he wasn't aware of the situation and couldn't do anything.
/r/MensRights07/05/14 04:05 AM
1

Yeah, he's at fault here, but not because he simply appointed them.
/r/MensRights07/05/14 04:02 AM
-1

I suppose, but those mutations generally take hold after generations of inbreeding, not a few outlier cases (I'm talking about cousins here; don't know about siblings/parents/others). It seems like a minor threat that's used as justification for societal views that are mainly based on our emotions and disgust towards such acts.
/r/MensRights06/05/14 07:24 PM
5

I guess they will fix it quickly. But it's been 3 years..
/r/MensRights06/05/14 06:06 PM
0

"But incest is nasty and I don't like thinking about that; it's unnatural!"
/r/MensRights06/05/14 05:59 PM
0

No, but it would be more "logical." It's like people condemning those who do drugs. It's a choice (at least at first?), so people can be condescending without being bigoted against something inherently "wrong" (different) in drug users.
/r/MensRights06/05/14 05:58 PM
1

There was another comment about either him being ignorant or him wanting plausible deniability. I'm guessing it's probably the latter
/r/MensRights06/05/14 05:30 PM
1

Yeah, that seems like the most likely case
/r/MensRights06/05/14 05:30 PM
0

I don't think that's how that works..
/r/MensRights06/05/14 05:29 PM
1

Ok, I guess it's likely the "plausible" deniability. Don't see how he'd not be aware of this.
/r/MensRights06/05/14 05:28 PM
1

Agreed
/r/MensRights06/05/14 05:27 PM
2

Ok, sure, but in this particular issue, it looks like the people under him were responsible for the block, not himself.
/r/MensRights06/05/14 07:27 AM
5

Ah, that makes sense; thanks for the info.
/r/MensRights06/05/14 07:26 AM
0

Yeah, the misleading title really got the fire started.
/r/MensRights06/05/14 06:05 AM
3

They should give her the money when she doesn't end up going. These sorts of shows are quite horrible, but as an observer, I find it interesting how the actors (not in the drama sense) interact as well as how we, as an audience, respond to the "entertainment."
/r/MGTOW06/05/14 05:09 AM
1

Yes, lol, I agree, but he's not (provably) at fault for this issue.
/r/MensRights06/05/14 05:07 AM
3

Yes, definitely. Dammit, seeing the kid in the video that whole time and nothing coming of it was surreal and disturbing. And I like that a cop is courteous, since asshole cops are assholes, but this one just didn't do his duty like he was supposed to. It's sad that there's really nothing to be done, and she will likely be given a light sentence and everyone gets to move on with their lives.
/r/MGTOW06/05/14 05:04 AM
14

Hold on guys, the article suggests that people underneath Obama were the ones blocking proposals. I can't say Obama would be likely to endorse it, but it seems like they were on the road to presenting the proposal until others (not Obama) blocked it.
/r/MensRights06/05/14 04:15 AM
7

So, is she actually a "feminist" (in that she truly believes herself to be one)? It would be awesome if she is and awesome if she isn't.
/r/MensRights06/05/14 04:05 AM
3

Yeah, I hadn't seen the edits when I responded. You win, haha. I didn't have the full story.
/r/MGTOW06/05/14 03:55 AM
1

Another idea is that she was labelled as 'no' when she was tested, but honestly believed it after she got everything off her chest. Then my whole analysis is bullshit and the format of the show fucked her over.
/r/MGTOW06/05/14 03:20 AM
0

I was also referring to the woman's gender. I don't think a police officer is required to listen to anything and just supposed to follow dispatch order. I don't know how the process works, but the operator was clearly concerned but no one was sent. There was a man and woman both verbally abusing the child, so gender discrimination doesn't seem to be at play in the officer deciding not to respond. And yeah, I agree, this is likely going to be the case, but it's not a pussy pass yet.
/r/MGTOW06/05/14 03:11 AM
2

Yeah, there are a lot of variables to consider, and I think I'm going to have to educate myself some more and reevaluate my beliefs. But, if what you're saying is true, and more rapists are set free, then I guess that's another reason to avoid it (if false accusation rates remain constant). Thanks for this discussion. It helped me nail down some points as well as see some holes in my thinking.
/r/MensRights06/05/14 02:10 AM
1

I'd rather it be an opt out procedure, to help ensure children will be taken care of.
/r/MensRights06/05/14 02:06 AM
6

Based on my self-professed, omniscient expertise on lying, I think she was lying. She started with "Honestly," which already indicates hesitation, and then lengthens the statement while including part of the question "that I am a good person." Of course, this alone does not indicate she's lying, just throws some red flags. The real indicator is her "baseline." All her answers (shown in that video) were quick and straightforward. "Yes. No. Yes, I would. No, I don't think so." It's hard to tell wi…
/r/MGTOW05/05/14 08:17 PM
2

I wouldn't say that. In this specific case, I agree, but let's say telling the truth about some form of financial fraud would "ruin your life"; it doesn't mean it's already ruined..
/r/MGTOW05/05/14 08:09 PM
2

Ah, yeah, I didn't think about that (was only looking at rape crime). I don't know the psychology of other victims, but it seems that regular violence doesn't leave psychological trauma to the same extent that sexual violence does. Violence hurts, but sexual violence robs one of themselves (based on how they describe it). If getting out of testifying through psych evals leads to fewer convictions overall and incites retributive justice, then I'd have to support our current system as it pertains …
/r/MensRights05/05/14 06:23 PM
1

Oh, I didn't mean they would be required a psychological evaluation to see if they can testify, but if they could opt out of testifying due to the trauma if the law was requiring them to testify. I think that would help find some middle ground to help convict more offenders, while also protecting victims? Let's say consensual sex occurs. The woman, for example, claims she was raped to deceive her boyfriend from her infidelity. If she was forced to testify, she could be pressured by her boyfriend…
/r/MensRights05/05/14 05:17 PM
2

EDIT: Read /u/thrownaway_MGTOW 's response as it contains more details to the case and is definitely something that belongs here (and in MRM). This was said on MRM, and I agree with it: It seems more of a case of procedure, not necessarily gender discrimination. Of course, if (when) she's sentenced to far too short of a sentence, I'm all for pointing at this injustice.
/r/MGTOW05/05/14 03:48 PM
1

Yes, lol. I even made the concession of gender discrimination, which provably exists in the justice system. I don't understand this sub sometimes.
/r/MensRights05/05/14 03:21 PM
1

I would not mind requiring the same standard for rape victims, and I do not mind the way it is now. I'm for personal liberties before limited freedom for "the greater good." If we must require rape victims to testify (I don't see this being necessary or "right," but I'm ok with it), then let's at least have some measure to prevent what could be considered cruel punishment. On the false accusations point, I think we'd have to have an approach to keep a false accusation from being the logical path…
/r/MensRights05/05/14 03:19 PM
1

Yes, if they would be deemed "too traumatized" by a reputable psychologist, then I wouldn't want to force them to testify.
/r/MensRights05/05/14 02:02 AM
3

It would be hard to get a man to legally sign something affirming that he will take care of a child if it's his, right before sex. I think many legal defenses would arise claiming the man was "coerced" or "not in the right mind" since it is a spur of the moment decision (in general).
/r/MensRights04/05/14 10:20 PM
2

Look, I'm not denying that this bullshit happens (I've perused that sub a couple times) or that they have equal treatment to males. What I'm saying is that being surprised if she's not exonerated is just an untruthful statement.
/r/MensRights04/05/14 09:35 PM
3

It was at +5, and that's a toxic attitude to have. Either ignore it or answer the question. The commentor's responses will determine whether s/he is a concern troll (in this case, it seems clear wax is not).
/r/MensRights04/05/14 08:00 PM
1

I would argue that the man should make his intentions clear and legally binding before the woman cannot get a legal abortion. That way the woman can decide whether to keep the child based on the father's obligation and would be entitled to the support expected after birth.
/r/MensRights04/05/14 06:55 PM
1

I think this has to do with the jury more than the system. Prosecution went for the death penalty when many legal experts would say it's unjustified (hard to prove conclusively that Casey was responsible and killed her daughter intentionally). But yeah, women definitely get off easy, I'm not debating that. It's just annoying to see a comment that essentially says "anything except exoneration is unlikely" and get upvoted.
/r/MensRights04/05/14 06:39 PM
1

Points 3 and 4 are valid, as is the abortion point. Most of it is fluff. Some of it is just bullshit. But old feminism didn't seem to hurt men (didn't help them much, but it def did help a little).
/r/MensRights04/05/14 06:32 PM
1

that view is looked at with ridicule and disdain Well, to have rape victims be "looked at with ridicule and disdain," someone would have to launch a huge social campaign to make such a change, and the "logic" would still have to deal with the social "feels." Most people don't support forced testifying of rape victims because of "feels" (including me), and I don't think anyone will be successful in changing this. Yeah, sorry, that sentence was kind of runny, haha. I was saying that forced testify…
/r/MensRights04/05/14 06:22 PM
-2

Guys, can we not downvote legitimate questions? wax isn't the first person asking this and it's a good question.
/r/MensRights04/05/14 06:15 PM
1

Really? You really think our justice system is so fucked that she'd be exonerated, as in no discipline whatsoever? Yes, women don't get punished like men, and yes, our system is flawed, but I highly highly doubt she's going to get away from this without at least 5 years.
/r/MensRights04/05/14 06:12 PM
1

I don't think the first waves of feminism diminished the rights of men...and did, indeed, (occasionally) help men. There was a lot of bullshit in the article (who invented the first computer?? why does it matter if it's a woman or man??). But you really can't knock down every single point like this..
/r/MensRights04/05/14 05:53 PM
1

That sounds encouraging. I suppose the pain medication they give would help with that.
/r/MensRights04/05/14 05:47 PM
1

What was the point of this? I don't deny 1st/2nd-wave feminism's benefits and I don't think many of the people here do.
/r/MensRights04/05/14 06:22 AM
2

Very well put. Hierarchical power structures inherently lead to such injustices.
/r/MensRights04/05/14 05:46 AM
1

First of all, wow, never thought you'd be responding to something I said :) (used to be subscribed when I had a youtube account and you were the one who introduced me to and provided great arguments for the MRM). Second, around how old was he at the time of the procedure? Would he be considered a "tough guy" (sounds like it)?
/r/MensRights04/05/14 05:27 AM
1

Yes, you got my initial point correct and I stand by it. But from xnom's perspective, I tried to suggest that forcing victims to the witness stand could drop the number of reported rapes (since they don't want to go through the process) and force false accusers to continue with their lie for fear of being charged with perjury/libel/correct legal term, leading to possibly more false convictions. It was after this comment that s/he responded with "Only more feelings," which led me to believe s/he …
/r/MensRights04/05/14 05:24 AM
1

I hate you for that descriptive description, but subconsciously appreciate your sharing it :)
/r/MensRights04/05/14 03:05 AM
1

Ok, at this point, I don't know if you're trolling or simply unable to see and fully understand the points I'm trying to make. I think this discussion is over.
/r/MensRights04/05/14 03:04 AM
3

I think frightened cats are on a whole different level compared to defense attorneys grilling victims on the stand about the details of their ordeal and questioning the legitimacy of their accusations in public (in front of many people). Most victims know their rapists, so what happens if s/he gets away with it? Maybe through some procedural fluke or lack of belief in the witness statements? But, let's say the justice system is only for justice and should only be concerned with locking up rapist…
/r/MensRights04/05/14 01:21 AM
3

Wtf? Not all rape victims are women... This is about minimizing the trauma endured by victims. We should give them the option of going against the criminal and informing them of the benefits of preventing the rape of other victims. But in the end, we shouldn't be forcing victims to undergo additional psychological strains, especially when a false accusation could turn into a false conviction because the accuser is forced to go through with the process.
/r/MensRights04/05/14 12:45 AM
-1

Well, I don't believe in the idea that everyone should report every crime they witness, especially when the laws require them to testify (often not enforced against rape victims). If we require them to testify or "man up" (just an expression), it would likely decrease the amount of reports and possibly harm the public good. I think the way they treat victims is reasonable, currently, although I do agree with the last part: if they aren't willing to fully commit to the process, they cannot expect…
/r/MensRights04/05/14 12:30 AM
1

Yeah, definitely, but it's just not an option right now (not that it matters; not sexually active atm).
/r/MensRights04/05/14 12:26 AM
1

Doesn't seem pleasant, but better than the future cost of an unwanted/unexpected child.
/r/MensRights03/05/14 11:12 PM
1

Hahaha, yeah, I didn't consider the pain until I saw a modern family episode where one guys is considering getting one but decides against it when he sees someone else hobbling out in pain.
/r/MensRights03/05/14 11:01 PM
2

Goddamn, what a baws. I could hardly do that when getting a small cut on my thumb stitched up. Yeah, I've had my wisdoms pulled, so I guess I don't have to worry about that. Thanks for sharing. Motivates me to get through my bullshit if you can voluntarily have your junk cut into, haha.
/r/MensRights03/05/14 10:03 PM
2

I see AI being developed quicker than cyborgs, and probably cheaper.
/r/MensRights03/05/14 10:00 PM
2

well shit. I don't think I'm immune to local numbing. Were you aware of your immunity before the surgery?
/r/MensRights03/05/14 09:43 PM
1

Whoa, hold on there, man. Let's not start bashing rape victims for acting "childish" because they don't want to go through the trauma of living through a horrible experience and participating in a lengthy trial process.
/r/MensRights03/05/14 09:38 PM
2

Hmm, I have a very low tolerance of pain, so I guess I'll wait for the gel thing to come out and see the responses men have for that. Of course, once I'm out of college and making enough money, I'll end up snipping if the gel stuff hasn't come out.
/r/MensRights03/05/14 09:30 PM
4

Yeah, haha, I was just poking at how "were" implies "not anymore." Def makes sense the way s/he wrote it, though.
/r/MGTOW03/05/14 09:10 PM
2

Serious question: how painful is it?
/r/MensRights03/05/14 09:05 PM
4

Well, both of my parents were are pretty awesome
/r/MGTOW03/05/14 08:42 PM
0

Could you link to some studies about the philosophical reasoning divide between the genders? Also, that last point would include anything. If he tried to ask to buy her a drink or something, she still could have said 'no' since she wasn't interested, or maybe would have accepted the drink without any intention of reciprocating.
/r/MGTOW03/05/14 08:19 PM
2

That's pretty good. A bit tedious, but would stump them for a reply.
/r/MensRights02/05/14 09:29 PM
-1

Yes, I find most women (and a lot of men) to be concerned with trivialities and feel condescension. But there are enough women that I have conversed with and have respect for due to their "realness" and I think they are common enough to refute the "all women are superficial" exaggeration.
/r/MGTOW01/05/14 09:25 PM
-2

I never said you weren't aware of it, but that her lack of desire for such a conversation to occur was probably her reason for trying to end the conversation. And the whole "NAWALT" thing is as bullshit as "NAMALT." Most of our views of groups of people is based on a small selection of that group that has a lot more to do with our situation in life than it does with providing us with a fair view of them. That's why there are such things as racism and sexism. The post explicitly calls women borin…
/r/MGTOW01/05/14 09:23 PM
-2

Yes, the genders are definitely different, but OP paints all women as superficial and unintelligent. Women can be just as philosophical as men, and probably around the same proportion. But most people, in general, just don't care to talk philosophy with someone on the spot. Many people like to think about it on their own. In this situation, it seems like she just wanted the conversation to end since she knew actually discussing the topic would lead to a very lengthy discussion. She might have al…
/r/MGTOW01/05/14 07:52 PM
11

The point is that aid agencies shouldn't be discriminating like this. If you're going to help people or "give gifts," share fairly.
/r/MensRights01/05/14 07:47 PM
1

If you're saying what I think you're saying, then yeah, I think I agree. Women get threatened because trolls know they're more likely to respond to verbal abuse.
/r/MensRights01/05/14 07:23 PM
5

Why is this downvoted?
/r/MensRights01/05/14 06:27 AM
1

Oh, that makes sense, too. Dollars were worth a lot more donuts in that time.
/r/MensRights30/04/14 11:58 PM
1

Ok, sure, but I think many people from this sub were also downvoting because of the irrational last statement.
/r/MensRights30/04/14 09:57 PM
1

This is the first I'm hearing of it. Was it first made in a movie as humor or something? I've heard acorn to an oak tree.
/r/MensRights30/04/14 09:55 PM
3

you can bet dollars to donuts That's pretty much a 1:1 betting return
/r/MensRights30/04/14 08:16 AM
5

Except we know he won't :/
/r/MensRights30/04/14 08:12 AM
2

Also, a lot of men buy into their shenanigans (concerning gender).
/r/MensRights30/04/14 04:10 AM
6

Well damn, I didn't understand the downvotes, since I was agreeing with everything you were saying. That is, until I read the last sentence.
/r/MensRights29/04/14 10:32 PM
4

They do care...about votes and money. If attacking men attains these things, then so be it, "it's what the people want."
/r/MensRights29/04/14 10:31 PM
2

Biggety bullshit
/r/MensRights29/04/14 10:27 PM
3

Well, I totally disagree with the inability of insurance companies from charging women more, since that means I'm paying for their pregnancies. But, if that's the way things are, then the lack of attention for car insurance is bullshit.
/r/MensRights29/04/14 08:41 PM
1

Yeah, I read the first sentence of each of the first few paragraphs until I get to the stuff I want.
/r/MensRights29/04/14 08:04 PM
2

Have they really ruled that? I would support discriminatory insurance because there are differences in behaviors and treatments required and one sex shouldn't pay for the other sex's accidents (pregnancy, penis stuff, etc).
/r/MensRights29/04/14 08:03 PM
1

I ALMOST NEVER am threatened with violence. I have never been threatened with rape. Is that so? Sounds like something that needs to be fixed...for equality (No, please don't do this.)
/r/MensRights29/04/14 07:57 PM
13

hit 30 FTFY
/r/MensRights28/04/14 12:16 AM
19

I'm pretty sure this is a troll. Yahoo answers is notorious for the best answer being a troll, they probably have a sub for it.
/r/MensRights28/04/14 12:15 AM
10

How about thinking of it like this: what age group of men would want the same age group of women to be wearing more than what they usually do? Certainly not any age group under 40. Which brings us to how this "perpetuation of rape culture" is actually put forward by parents and educators who want to keep their children innocent and pure. It's not about rape culture, it's about Puritanism and if people want to argue against restrictive dress codes, they will have to take the stance that children/…
/r/MensRights27/04/14 09:52 PM
2

Yes, it can be, but I would think a situation like this would be likely to cause the creation of a whole new account so there's no way to associate it with anything else. I don't agree with the consent part, but yes, I wish reposter clarified s/he wasn't the OP. I don't think there's any intentional dishonesty going on here, just a lack of specification.
/r/MensRights27/04/14 05:11 AM
2

EDIT: So, I'm assuming she took it down? I couldn't find it. Hey, I'm sorry for what happened, but there are some logically muddy areas in the argument. Men and women are equally likely to be victims, not necessarily perpetrators. The 40% number is probably around the real number, but since the reported numbers focus on victims, it's difficult to nail down the demographics of perpetrators. They would need to collect completely new data to find that out.
/r/MensRights27/04/14 03:23 AM
5

lol, nice
/r/MensRights27/04/14 03:17 AM
1

Youtube link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mpI3y4Nqt4Y
/r/MGTOW27/04/14 02:47 AM
1

Sorry, looks like both of us are too lazy to help change my "ignorant" beliefs.
/r/MensRights27/04/14 02:38 AM
2

many already do
/r/MensRights27/04/14 02:36 AM
2

um, I don't think she was talking about dick beards..
/r/MensRights27/04/14 02:34 AM
29

Ah, thank you for clarifying. Didn't see how "redditor for 6 months" could be a throwaway.
/r/MensRights27/04/14 01:07 AM
1

Ok, yes, they "can give consent."
/r/MensRights27/04/14 01:02 AM
3

It could be a fair trade to many if there was true commitment (on both sides) and women were still considered less capable than men. I think the idea that this isn't a "fair" trade stems from the equality women have gained along with the power they had from more traditional legislature and practices. Ideally, the woman would also bring resources and disagreements/disputes would be resolved in a fair manner (such as divorce and custody).
/r/MGTOW27/04/14 12:47 AM
1

Hmm, I just searched it up, and apparently landed on the same article you linked me in your previous comment (I didn't bother to look it up, since it's UK). That article seems to suggest children under 16 cannot consent and require parental consent for treatment (or consent is not required in certain cases, not that they're allowing the children to consent).
/r/MensRights27/04/14 12:43 AM
1

I'm speaking from the US, and unless it's life-threatening or serious or (I don't actually know what circumstances are included as exceptions), parents can prevent children from receiving certain treatments.
/r/MensRights27/04/14 12:24 AM
2

I agree with your definition of rape. Seems like you do not agree with my definition of consent (which includes actions other than "verbal yes"). Thank you, I learned it from people like you. You are taking cases and extrapolating from them to be representative of the entire movement. Again, you misconstrue what I said. I'm not going to respond again, since you have no intention of debating honestly and are here to troll. I know exactly why people think you're awful.
/r/MensRights26/04/14 08:16 PM
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I agree with this last point, but we aren't claiming to know what the women's experiences are. We claim to know what the experiences are not, which can be demonstrably disproven.
/r/MensRights26/04/14 07:58 PM
3

It's not the idea of both partners "saying "yes" while of clear mind and body" that's abhorrent. It's the idea that partners who do not ascribe to such definitions of consent (but still do consent, in their own way) would be considered rapists or rape victims. Why would you misconstrue what the (MR) article is saying? Nowhere is it saying verbal consent is bad. It seems like you are purposefully making misleading statements about the article, which I find abhorrent. Also, nowhere does it say the…
/r/MensRights26/04/14 07:50 PM
1

Technically, they can be refused medical treatment if their parents do not consent...so, yeah.
/r/MensRights26/04/14 07:15 PM
2

But...middle school. So likely still not able to consent.
/r/MensRights26/04/14 07:14 PM
1

That's true, but that's more of a practical point ("once it's out, it's out"). I definitely agree with you, but it's why the cases for censorship are so very specific (when I'd agree with it). I'm saying there are definitely hypothetical situations in which true censorship would be something I would agree with, so I can't say "censorship is never right."
/r/MensRights26/04/14 07:10 PM
0

What is this google you speak of? If you're going to argue, the least you could provide is a starting link.
/r/MensRights26/04/14 07:00 PM
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Because right now, regretting it the next day gives a full on rape conviction, more than a year.
/r/MensRights26/04/14 12:36 AM
2

Yes, no ones going to dispute that claim. We're saying it's not relevant to the point you're trying ti argue.
/r/MensRights26/04/14 12:35 AM
2

Can't it also be manslaughter if the criminal didn't intend to kill them? I'm not going to say she wasn't trying to, but I'm also not going to assume she was. Either way, the sentence itself was too light. Fuck that.
/r/MensRights25/04/14 11:17 PM
1

I don't know what to tell you. Not very knowledgable about reddit stuff, haha. Maybe ask a mod?
/r/MGTOW25/04/14 08:26 PM
2

I was not aware of these points or this conversation even occurring. Thanks for sharing.
/r/MGTOW25/04/14 04:09 PM
1

Yes, but if a person somehow became aware of such sensitive information, they could be censored (and I would agree with protecting such things, provided they are not morally devoid).
/r/MensRights25/04/14 04:04 PM
7

The feminist subs seem to be run by the more extreme feminists, and not the moderately minded subscribers they are composed of. Unfortunately, this leads to good discussions between moderates being censored/stifled/interrupted by the asshole mods.
/r/MensRights25/04/14 02:42 PM
3

No explanation needed, good sir.
/r/MensRights25/04/14 02:40 PM
1

Shouting over them is effectively censorship, and thus supports physio's point.
/r/MensRights25/04/14 02:38 PM
2

Issues: military defense plans. Reasons: Effective protection of the public. Person: government. Censorship is necessary in some, very specific cases, and is often used on the pretense of such situations, but don't negate the existence of those specific cases.
/r/MensRights25/04/14 02:37 PM
2

It's satire/parody/idk. Just warning those who were excited to see an interesting, controversial article. The bloke-osome is thought to have evolved from the X, with bits dropping off during 300 million years of evolution. This led to a theory known at the "rotting Y", which said that men would eventually become extinct as their rubbish chromosome falls to pieces.
/r/MGTOW25/04/14 02:32 PM
3

You know what else the audience "clapped in agreement" to? http://www.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/23q4ov/disgusting_wendy_williams_recommends_a_woman_stop/
/r/MensRights24/04/14 09:54 PM
2

He didn't? (unless he edited it away) He just said that institutions have been infiltrated, not all of them.
/r/MensRights24/04/14 09:52 PM
2

I agree with the others about not engaging unchanging minds. But, if you want to argue, present the statistic of women making 95% of men, when accounting for type of job, hours, etc. Then state how even the white house has the "wage/salary gap," but are unlikely to have gender discrimination. Arranged marriages, pffffffffffffffft. Assuming you're in a 1st world country, this isn't a debating point. Slut/stud dichotomy is enforced by evolution and (possibly) social gender roles. It's easy for a g…
/r/MGTOW24/04/14 06:42 PM
10

literally (both statements)
/r/MensRights24/04/14 06:27 PM
2

Yes, that's exactly what I need. Thank you for showing me this wondrous attire.
/r/MensRights23/04/14 03:45 PM
4

Well, I mean, they still wear pants underneath. And the female dresses in (middle) eastern cultures are distinct and contrast in a feminine way to the masculine articles of clothing.
/r/MensRights23/04/14 03:00 PM
13

Yeah, but turbans make your head all sweaty and they're so annoying. I like the idea of a snuggie with a hood.
/r/MensRights23/04/14 02:42 PM
29

I'm going to be wearing a jedi cloak in a few years. So fucking comfy, free, useful (that hood doe), and good in any weather.
/r/MensRights23/04/14 01:51 PM
1

Lololol! Just scanned some of her articles, and they were great. They're just over the edge to make the satire clear, but so close to the actual perspectives they make fun of.
/r/MGTOW23/04/14 01:42 PM
2

That's true, but I'm glad it exists in the way it does.
/r/MGTOW23/04/14 01:39 PM
1

I just wish she didn't mention her mother's divorce and her family. That was kind of a low blow. Everything else was spot on.
/r/MensRights23/04/14 05:21 AM
1

That's true, I didn't think of that.
/r/MensRights23/04/14 04:42 AM
3

lol, I'll leave it. I was on my phone
/r/MensRights23/04/14 04:40 AM
12

Legally, she can, which is what's so tucked up
/r/MensRights23/04/14 04:01 AM
1

If they're still fucking literally in front of you, you should take a picture; just for shits.
/r/MGTOW23/04/14 03:37 AM
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How I feel
/r/MensRights23/04/14 03:36 AM
4

Nice. I'm glad the same site is posting both perspectives.
/r/MGTOW23/04/14 02:30 AM
2

lmao
/r/MensRights22/04/14 10:46 PM
4

A rational person recognizes the difference of values in different people. For example, I don't value my money as much as I value the right to live comfortably for everyone, so I do support welfare.
/r/MensRights22/04/14 10:46 PM
9

a shitty childhood
/r/MensRights22/04/14 08:54 PM
9

Um, I don't support Hilary. I don't really support anyone in particular, I just say I'm democrat because I'm definitely not republican. This woman (and all the ridfems) being part of the party I most identify with is indeed offensive, but not because you mention it ^ _ ^
/r/MensRights22/04/14 08:31 PM
9

The guy right after this girl was awesome. Completely diffused the situation and asked a decent, interesting question.
/r/MensRights22/04/14 07:58 PM
14

Two ways of saying the same thing; I agree. Ninja edit: after watching the video, I guess those statements aren't necessarily equal. But I still agree.
/r/MensRights22/04/14 07:50 PM
8

Like, honest question, are you sure these aren't just guys dressed up as women?
/r/MensRights22/04/14 07:50 PM
10

I think that a better word would be "disciplinary/encouraging." When I was younger, my parents actually had reverse roles, where my mom was the disciplinarian/encourager, teaching me how to ride a bike and such, and my dad comforted (since he didn't get much time with me, due to work/college). I still saw him as masculine, though.
/r/MensRights22/04/14 07:48 PM
1

If they want to spend a few resources to investigate it, that's fine by me, but after not finding any guns and the comment being pretty clearly sarcastic, going any further is just ridiculous.
/r/MensRights22/04/14 07:32 PM
8

I think that was his point, but still, here's my upvote :)
/r/MensRights22/04/14 02:44 AM
4

Lol what?? You can only be happy with yourself when you're happy with how you're treated by people around you. That's demonstrably not true, although it is difficult. I have a lot of respect for redpillers who find a drive to improve themselves and see things for what they are, but I dislike this idea that there's only one way to achieve a sense of peace/contentment/happiness/bliss/etc. One doesn't need sex or validation to feel good overall, but most people do.
/r/TheRedPill21/04/14 06:05 PM
12

On an unrelated note, I hate this style of writing. Takes fucking forever to get to the point.
/r/MensRights20/04/14 08:00 PM
2

Yes, definitely agree. I was on the AMR sub about a week ago, and it was hard endorsing MRM when some of the comments that get upvoted here are really just misogynistic/unreasonable/bad.
/r/MensRights20/04/14 07:29 AM
-1

Well, men can too. But it generally takes more manipulation than just exuding feminine pheromones and batting eyelids.
/r/MensRights20/04/14 05:34 AM
1

"Deactivating" is disabling it. There are ways of completely deleting it as I've done it once and almost done it again.
/r/MensRights20/04/14 05:31 AM
5

I was hoping someone would respond to you with an answer, but nope....here's a sympathy upvote
/r/MensRights20/04/14 05:30 AM
1

Yeah, srsly, finance?? Medicine?? Please..
/r/MensRights17/04/14 05:21 PM
2

but, but, patriarchy!
/r/MensRights16/04/14 08:39 AM
0

Exactly! If it's so tough, how come almost every single species is capable of doing it? Now, a single mom on the other hand...that could be pretty tough.
/r/MensRights16/04/14 05:54 AM
4

Thank you on your children's & gf's behalf :)
/r/MensRights16/04/14 05:51 AM
2

Love bill burr
/r/MensRights16/04/14 03:49 AM
3

You and your silly logic, always screwing things up ;)
/r/MensRights16/04/14 03:48 AM
2

Because they're nice, and it's the best they can hope for (in terms of women) these days.
/r/MGTOW16/04/14 02:43 AM
2

Only the interviews are fake; that wasn't my point. The point is how they inaccurately describe the "job" of the mom and claim it's the toughest one.
/r/MensRights16/04/14 02:03 AM
2

Can we call this like it is and say it's women talking for other women and giving possible reasons for men's success in later life. It doesn't seem to have a feminist agenda. It doesn't seem to be consciously male-bashing. It's not having a "who's the better sex" debate, but discussing why some men can succeed in situations that some women cannot. They made some good points and some erroneous ones, complimenting our talents while criticizing our ego/self-awareness, without much intention of it b…
/r/MensRights16/04/14 12:29 AM
2

Oh look, a toucan just flew out my window
/r/MensRights15/04/14 05:50 AM
1

What exactly is this Title IV thing and how would it increase child support? (I'd prefer a short and sweet answer, but understand it might be a little complicated.) EDIT: Seems like u/oneiorosgrip answered it, I think.
/r/MensRights15/04/14 04:15 AM
-1

Out of curiosity, how did you come across this? Are you subscribed to that sub?
/r/MGTOW14/04/14 07:09 PM
1

Sorry :( I don't post much and this was sort of an impulse move
/r/MensRights14/04/14 06:31 PM
1

Yeah, I agree with that. It annoys me when we make issues out of things that aren't a big deal, similar to what feminists do. But, on the other hand, I think it's important to point out the inconsistencies in feminist rhetoric to help destabilize their hold on the public and government policies.
/r/MensRights14/04/14 05:07 PM
0

Are you suggesting standing idly by instead of trying to change injustice/irrationality?
/r/MensRights14/04/14 04:52 PM
0

Then I'd say most adults aren't rational, and isn't fighting for rationality one of the points of the mrm?
/r/MensRights14/04/14 03:55 PM
-1

I'm not sure about that...I still think if a girl's clothes were ripped off, feminists would be screaming rape culture and the public would hop on the bandwagon (like blurred lines)
/r/MensRights14/04/14 03:20 PM
4

I'd actually go for it. You'd be taking away money from feminists and helping your future.
/r/MGTOW14/04/14 02:58 PM
1

Yes, exactly. I guess I don't even disagree with the premise, just think it needs slight clarification.
/r/MensRights14/04/14 02:54 PM
1

I agree with your suggestion, but not the premise. Women tend to be more jealous of each other than men and are less able to unite effectively. The reason they are able to unite better than men in today's world is due to men not believing men are disadvantaged while women being more prone to social pressure and following a great movement from 50 years ago that has overshot its goal of equality.
/r/MensRights14/04/14 02:03 PM
15

I never forget to rape someone. That's why I use post-its.
/r/MensRights14/04/14 01:58 PM
1

Sorry, wasn't aware this was a repost (saw it on facebook)
/r/MensRights14/04/14 01:54 PM
1

I fear the NSA much more than a voluntary DNA test (yes, although coercive, this article makes it seem like the police couldn't do much if the person refused)
/r/MensRights14/04/14 04:25 AM
1

Ok, thanks. I didn't really get an answer
/r/MGTOW11/04/14 03:33 AM
1

What??? The deer would still be a victim. It's being hurt and that's all victimhood means.
/r/MensRights11/04/14 03:32 AM
2

I think most people consider being killed defining a victim, so they would still disagree, because you would be coming from a different premise. However, if we consider the trauma, mental and physical, on the soldiers who survive, I'd say they are still the real victims. They lose their comrades, years of their life, their mental stability, and endure physical pain.
/r/MensRights10/04/14 04:06 AM
2

I suspect you knew you would get downvoted to hell for this... I get what you're saying, and I agree with it, but I don't think anyone who values their life more than the lives of their loved ones should support her (and I don't support her because she likely does value herself more)
/r/MensRights10/04/14 02:25 AM
15

Hmm, I believe a fuck ton > shit load, since I always have a shitload of work until finals, when I have a fuck ton.
/r/MensRights09/04/14 07:14 PM
9

I think he was saying its not necessary, only cosmetic, so there's no reason for it. If it was medical, it could be excused.
/r/MensRights09/04/14 01:02 PM
2

"Women cheat because they're ugly. Men cheat because women are ugly."
/r/MensRights07/04/14 05:18 AM
3

Ha, I liked it. Sorry for the downvotes
/r/MensRights03/04/14 05:51 PM
2

Just laugh and don't think too much. Thinking is for the unhappy
/r/MensRights03/04/14 07:34 AM
0

I just don't like the restriction of freedom. We require students to go to school (I agree with this), and we require them to wear uniforms? This seems like a breach in personal liberty (in my eyes), and is something I just can't support in a public school. Dress codes are fine, of course, but my high school implemented a system where everyone had to wear a belt and tuck their shirt in, which I think steps over the line. Of course, they had different requirements for girls and boys, which I also…
/r/MensRights03/04/14 07:28 AM
2

Ok, that's fair, I can support that
/r/MensRights02/04/14 10:04 PM
5

I don't see why you got downvoted. I thought it was clear you weren't representing this view as your own..
/r/MensRights02/04/14 08:55 PM
2

Well, to be fair, mensrights isn't exactly the best place for karma..
/r/MensRights02/04/14 06:45 AM
5

But, if she got an abortion, which are generally risk-free in today's age, she's only undergoing a "financial deprivation." So, it shouldn't be rape? I agree with him being sentenced, but I really don't see what sort of cognitive dissonance exists in the minds of these old fogeys who don't see the double standard they are establishing in literally one "sentence."
/r/MensRights01/04/14 06:51 PM
6

What about how subsidizing adults for having children would increase the pop'n growth rate, which is NOT a good thing? What about adults who don't truly desire a kid but the tax break is enough to convince them of adopting? What about the divorce laws that will go double full retard (already full retard) when the man doesn't get custody (surprise surprise) and has to pay child support, alimony, and higher taxes? And of course the women, who generally have lower paying jobs when caring for childr…
/r/MGTOW01/04/14 06:42 PM
3

I tend to disagree with Rand on a lot of things. But yeah, I agree with her exaggerated points that unfortunately are seeming to become a reality right now.
/r/MGTOW01/04/14 06:32 PM
1

bureagamy What is this? I googled it, but figured you could explain it better.
/r/MGTOW01/04/14 06:30 PM
-2

He investigates and tries to file complaint charges against the girl. Seems pretty straightforward to me
/r/MensRights30/03/14 07:34 AM
-3

Well, I think his job was pretty well implied in the original comment, so the question wasn't necessary
/r/MensRights30/03/14 07:22 AM
1

It shouldn't be punished too harshly because it's usual harm is just taking up police resources. False accusations should be things that are punished harshly. (Filing a false police report can just be things like saying something was stolen to get the insurance money, which is immoral and should be punished, but isn't a big deal in and of itself).
/r/MensRights28/03/14 04:52 PM
2

just
/r/MGTOW28/03/14 05:48 AM
4

They laugh about guys having bad hygiene or grooming.
/r/MensRights28/03/14 05:42 AM
1

"they consented so it's less harmful" That's not at all what I'm saying. You clearly are unwilling to understand my point of view and are more focused on trying to "disprove" my opinions. Bye.
/r/MensRights27/03/14 01:09 AM
1

sorry :3
/r/MensRights26/03/14 07:18 PM
1

Yes, I do think she may be delusional and potentially dangerous, but I also think the restrictions and therapy should be enough to prevent harm. If the victim didn't feel victimized, I would think the sentence is reasonable. This isn't about the legal system, but about how I think about the crime and punishment. On the other hand, if she was given a harsher sentence (and he didn't feel victimized), I wouldn't think that was unreasonable.
/r/MensRights26/03/14 07:06 PM
1

Yes, but the main difference is the consent. Instead of bicurious, she's pedocurious. I'm not sure we can come to an agreement on this point. If she hasn't offended since then, and she's getting therapy along with teaching/minor restrictions, I don't think she will offend again, so I don't think there's much public interest at play here. If you think there is, I respect that, especially since the victim did feel victimized and we both agree the sentence was ridiculously lenient.
/r/MensRights26/03/14 06:41 PM
1

What about the girl who experiments with her roommate in college, but doesn't consider herself a lesbian and hasn't done it with anyone else? The only significant difference is the woman's age. If she's managed to not act upon it since then (for whatever reason), then she's unlikely to offend again, especially with the restrictions and therapy that are being enforced.
/r/MensRights26/03/14 06:30 PM
1

Perhaps I am, but I'd like to think that it was just a phase or an experience she learned from and resolved against. I certainly don't like the stigma against pedophilia because if it's not acted upon, it's still punished (like the guy with lolita manga, or something), like they aren't human. (disclaimer, I'm not pedo, and doubt I would become one, if that's a thing.)
/r/MensRights26/03/14 06:01 PM
1

Yes, and I agree with it being independent of the victim. I'm just saying from my own outlook on life, even if the victim has "stockholm syndrome," if they don't want to punish and it's not in the public's interest to punish, then there's no point in it. It will still happen, and it's good that it does, in a way, but I still see it as pointless. Assuming she hasn't done anything with another child since then (and this is a huge assumption, I'll admit), she's barely more of a risk than any other …
/r/MensRights26/03/14 05:47 PM
1

We, as humans, declare arbitrary guidelines/rules/laws to help govern/maintain a safe/peaceful/productive society, but then these rules get warped into morality. This whole idea of consent is based on children being groomed and "agreeing" to things that harm them, but can't do much to prevent because of seeing the molester as powerful. But every person does have agency, and saying someone can't give consent "by definition" isn't giving the term "consent" and the person in question the respect th…
/r/MensRights26/03/14 04:51 PM
1

Yeah, I take back my original comment. Basically, this is the way I look at it. If someone punched me 15 years ago, and they never punched anyone after that, and I didn't want to report the assault, they shouldn't get the full sentence for assault. There's little public interest and I didn't feel I was a "victim," or didn't feel punishment/reporting would be justified, so there's not much point (from my perspective) in punishing the offender. There are many ways that this system, if implemented,…
/r/MensRights26/03/14 04:43 PM
1

Because it's not only about public interest? It's also about "justice" (whatever that is) and helping mitigate the victim's pain. I horribly phrased that, lemme clarify that: However, since the victim does feel hurt by it, I do think this (post) is fine standing alone (without a comparison) because it's unfairly lenient and is already human injustice, so I gave it an upvote. If it's still contradictory, could you tell me why?
/r/MensRights26/03/14 04:27 PM
1

I understand what public interest is, but I think it would be based on if someone would be put in danger by her remaining in society/out of prison. Since she's not a repeat offender, no one's going to be hurt by her, and is therefore not in the public interest for a harsh punishment. Yes, but when I said this, I also thought the sentence was a reasonable judgment by the judge, and would commend it, because of its understanding. However, since the victim does feel hurt by it, I do think this is f…
/r/MensRights26/03/14 04:19 PM
1

But there was absolutely no public interest. She wasn't a repeat offender and is highly unlikely to offend again. Yes, I agree. And I was saying before to present similar cases side by side for precisely that reason (comparison).
/r/MensRights26/03/14 03:00 PM
1

Yes, it's rape, and if it was caught at the time, we wouldn't be discussing this. But because the woman wasn't a repeat offender, we wouldn't be "protecting these kids" by putting her in jail. If it's been 15 years (and the child is more than fully grown), and he's not the one pushing the investigation, or isn't supporting it, then it's very difficult to say that this is a good thing to do, since it's not something the victim wants. We should be concerned with helping and protecting our victims.…
/r/MensRights26/03/14 02:58 PM
2

Yeah, this can get quite complicated, and turns into philosophy of morality. Personally, if the "offender" is unlikely to repeat the offense, then I believe it should be up to the victim. Even if they are afflicted by stockholm syndrome, if they don't want to hurt the offender, I don't think there's a particular need to. I definitely can see why someone would want to see them punished (even if that someone isn't a victim), and I don't see that as being unhealthy (if they were perceptibly harmed)…
/r/MensRights26/03/14 02:46 PM
1

I already know men get shit on by courts. BTW, upon finding out that the victim is pursuing the case, I agree the sentence was too lenient, and for that reason I think it's a good post. However, if this was popularly considered a reasonable sentence, there's no point in sharing (I think you'll agree?). It would make a better case to present the unreasonable sentences of men.
/r/MensRights26/03/14 02:33 PM
2

I would still agree with the sentence if it was brought about through a confession or another person "ratting her out" for whatever reason. Other articles made the victim's involvement with the process more clear, and for that reason (that the victim wants this, and not some other person trying to get her in trouble), I disagree with this lenient sentence. If the victim didn't want to pursue this, I don't see why anyone would want to punish her more (well, I do see why, but I don't think that's …
/r/MensRights26/03/14 02:28 PM
1

When did I say they weren't off limits? You disgust me, for trying to place me into a category that's inaccurate and that I disagree with, when you clearly don't understand my point of view.
/r/MensRights26/03/14 02:25 PM
2

Oh yes, I agree, and I agree with how the laws are set up to protect our children. But jostler's question doesn't address the actual issue, and my change wouldn't be "sugarcoating" anything. It would more accurately represent the situation. (If the age is mentioned, then calling it rape would be redundant at best and intentionally misleading at worst.)
/r/MensRights26/03/14 02:07 PM
2

But both scummy. The law assumes coercion in statutory rape cases, which may or may not have existed.
/r/MensRights26/03/14 01:01 PM
1

I think maybe you misunderstood when I said "I don't understand the harm." I meant that I don't understand it, but I do think it exists in most situations. If the parents of the girls don't want to do anything and the girl doesn't want to do anything, then I don't think the criminal should be prosecuted, especially if it was like the situation in the article (except in this case, the victim is the one who brought it up). I don't see why we have to punish those whose "victims" wouldn't want to pu…
/r/MensRights26/03/14 07:57 AM
2

Yeah, I'm the second one. Oops.
/r/MGTOW26/03/14 07:02 AM
-1

I disgust you? Ok, then. Perhaps you should read my other comments in this thread before calling me an apologist.
/r/MensRights26/03/14 06:25 AM
6

Yeah, I looked up other articles and agreed that the sentence was too lenient in other comments
/r/MensRights26/03/14 06:21 AM
0

By the law's definition, sure
/r/MensRights26/03/14 06:03 AM
1

fuck u
/r/MensRights26/03/14 06:03 AM
2

Yes, I would, but I include the girl's (and boy's, like this case) parents as a victim.
/r/MensRights26/03/14 06:01 AM
-1

But it prevents others from doing the same. This ruling isn't going to somehow cause someone to think "oh, well she got off easy, I'd say the risk is worth it" (it might because she's a woman, and they often get off easy). If I learn of it and I feel bad about it (I'm a victim), then I can prosecute and would be disappointed by this sentence. The article wasn't clear why the case was being tried, since it mentions nothing of the victims' involvement in it.
/r/MensRights26/03/14 06:00 AM
1

It matters because it simplifies the "moral question" into an easy no-brainer that doesn't accurately represent the situation at hand.
/r/MensRights26/03/14 04:05 AM
3

It depends on the victim. The article doesn't specify the victim's involvement in the prosecution. I looked up other articles that say the victim was the one who initiated the process, which changed my mind. I don't understand the harm, but I do know there are cases of it not hurting the individual, as expressed by the individuals themselves. It has a high potential for great harm.
/r/MensRights26/03/14 04:02 AM
-1

But then you could provide a bunch of examples of men getting shit on by the courts and I'd agree with you...
/r/MensRights26/03/14 04:00 AM
1

Why are you being sarcastic? You say "sugar coat" it, but it wasn't "actual" rape (as in, the concept people associate with the word). "Has sex with" leaves it up to the survey-taker, since the ages are there and the statutory rape is obvious.
/r/MensRights26/03/14 02:34 AM
5

Hmm, I was under the impression she somehow confessed or somehow ended up in legal proceedings. After researching the case some more (http://www.langleyadvance.com/news/former-langley-teacher-pleads-guilty-to-sexual-assault-1.842739), it's clear that the underaged person brought it up and pursued the prosecution. I agree, it's a pitiful sentence, especially if the victim is trying for justice.
/r/MensRights26/03/14 02:32 AM
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Yes, I agree, but I think we should focus on presenting similar cases and their disparities rather than looking at (what I think to be) semi-reasonable sentences against women that would be overblown if it was a man. I wouldn't argue for a harsher sentence against the person, whether man or woman, because of the time already passed and no repetition of the crime.
/r/MensRights26/03/14 02:25 AM
3

Violent rape and statutory rape are different things.
/r/MensRights26/03/14 01:31 AM
0

Well, how about saying "has sex with" as 15 year old. It seems like it was consensual, but statutory rape.
/r/MensRights26/03/14 01:20 AM
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But...this was 15 years ago? I think this is the right call, and perhaps a man wouldn't have been given such a lenient sentence, but that doesn't mean the woman should be given more. The point of "justice" is to better our society, and putting this woman in jail isn't going to do that. She hasn't offended again (presumably), the relationship was "consensual" (yeah, underage, but not violent rape), it's been 15 years, and she's not going to be doing it again. No point in going after this sort of …
/r/MensRights26/03/14 01:07 AM
2

Guys, as a subreddit, can we please not bend things to make them out to be something they're not? This specific case isn't necessarily a men's rights issue. It's like being cleared of attempting to steal a million dollars from a hobo who looks like a millionaire. It's kinda weird, but it doesn't have to do with hobo rights, as long as the perpetrator still faces assault charges (which he did).
/r/MensRights25/03/14 09:48 PM
3

Oh, hmm, I just looked it up, and it's legal in almost every state. Yeah, I don't know why they're doing this. On a slightly related note, fuck the FCC. I still don't see how they aren't violating the 1st amendment with every other policy they have.
/r/MensRights24/03/14 04:02 PM
3

Um, pretty sure he covered that? That is solved by direct to voicemail and only reply by text.
/r/MensRights24/03/14 02:43 PM
3

They are protesting the double standard and laws in other states (I assume). I think that becoming less puritan and uptight as a country would be so much better, so I support their protest. The only "warped" part is getting upset about the cameras..
/r/MensRights24/03/14 02:30 PM
15

It's hard to brainwash intelligence out of teenagers. It's also hard to brainwash stupidity out of them, until they're adults.
/r/MensRights24/03/14 02:16 PM
2

That's friggin interesting. Thanks for sharing
/r/MGTOW24/03/14 02:14 PM
3

So, sort of agree with you, but NAWALT. Of course, they'd be hard to find, and they'd probably have at least one of the traits you listed, but I'd try to stay away from statements like "A child in an adults body who can't fend or do anything for themselves." There are plenty of independent women who are focused on their careers and aren't in college to get their "wife degree." Also, some of these weak women are going to get knocked up, left alone with kids, and turn into strong, single mothers w…
/r/MGTOW24/03/14 05:15 AM
3

Oh, true, I forgot it was an upscale place. We just hear so many stories of shitty things happening, but this isn't a credit to how often it happens. I apologize for my ignorance, haha
/r/MensRights23/03/14 11:25 PM
2

Why the downvotes? That really is the way it is..
/r/MensRights23/03/14 09:28 PM
1

I guess that's the problem; I don't read much. But, since I feel similarly, maybe I should start writing...
/r/MGTOW22/03/14 06:23 AM
1

Is it really? I feel like it should be, but I've never heard of it. Could you name some?
/r/MGTOW21/03/14 05:39 PM
2

But how is the photographer mysandrist? If you don't think he is, then how is the article mysandrist? I have occasionally seen embarrassing pictures of women as well (http://tinyurl.com/lg9s4lp) and have not come across a huge outcry of "misogyny." (There have been some who say it's bullying, mean, degrading, or offensive to overweight people.) Of course the feminists would be up in arms if a woman was mocked, but that's because feminists have many mysandrists, but this doesn't have anything to …
/r/MensRights20/03/14 03:05 AM
2

Because it's not a gender segregated event, and if the photographer was completely unbiased, he would have likely shot the same pictures. Look in the background, there are hardly any women. If you guys (this subreddit) are talking about the article's tone, then I'm not going to take a stance on it, but I don't think the photographer and his pose buddy were doing anything mysandrist. If there was a girl, I think they would have taken that picture and it would have been just as funny.
/r/MensRights19/03/14 06:43 PM
2

Wow, that's awesome! I can't say I'd be down for the lack of job security though, but very few jobs are actually secure in today's world, and that pay would certainly be satisfying! :D Thanks for responding
/r/MGTOW19/03/14 06:36 PM
1

I'm going to point out that she wasn't an adult at the time. Even in the US, she would probably get 5 years or less. If she was a guy in the US, she would probably be tried as an adult and given the full sentence, but I'm just trying to point out that a reduced sentence should be expected when underage.
/r/MensRights19/03/14 03:17 PM
-1

It's not "obvious misandry." How many girls do you think were at this event? And how many of them had their cracks showing? 1 or 2 at the most (second question). This doesn't have to do with them being men, but them having their cracks showing. Either he didn't want to take that picture out of "respect," or he simply didn't see her. These aren't like creepshots or anything. He's clearly posing with a hilarious face and, although it's hurtful, it's not mysandrist.
/r/MensRights18/03/14 08:43 PM
2

What do you do? Is it a domestic (SE Asian) company, or an international company that's outsourced, or an over-the-net contract/freelance sort of deal? I would love to work only half the year (who wouldn't?)
/r/MGTOW18/03/14 05:41 PM
3

As I'm reading these comments, every mention of "stomping grapes" is making my balls tingle uncomfortably
/r/MensRights18/03/14 05:39 PM
6

Some of them don't seem so single..
/r/MGTOW17/03/14 10:42 PM
0

Preparing for downvotes, eh? Well take this! http://www.picgifs.com/reaction-gifs/reaction-gifs/upvotes/picgifs-upvotes-580142.gif
/r/MensRights17/03/14 02:22 PM
4

wtf, how do you mess up "they're" (very last sentence) I can forgive confusion between their and there (although, if you expect people to read what you write, then learn the difference). But they're?? ><
/r/MGTOW14/03/14 09:29 PM
2

Except the actually good guys who act like assholes all the time, but are actually really nice deep inside. Really really really deep inside.
/r/MensRights14/03/14 09:27 PM
2

Except with a prostitute, you know you'll have sex
/r/MensRights14/03/14 09:25 PM
6

The man was conscious (still unresponsive), but the woman was not
/r/MensRights14/03/14 01:49 AM
24

I don't see why you got downvoted for a simple question. I'm glad you asked and I'm glad there was an answer EDIT: karma was negative at time of posting
/r/MensRights12/03/14 07:47 PM
3

Ah, yeah, I can see that. Thankfully, the whole "women against feminism" thing is growing steadily, while everyone is looking at feminists like the crazies they are.
/r/MensRights04/03/14 10:05 PM
3

It's a book aimed at women (or seems like it), so I don't see a problem with them mentioning the potential benefits that women would experience by helping men. It's another method of persuasion, and I agree with the tactic.
/r/MensRights04/03/14 08:20 PM
1

What?? Ok, now I think I really disagree with you. Domestic violence is acts of violence against the person. Destroying someone's stuff is just vandalism, and AFAICT, men and women are treated reasonably equally when being punished.
/r/MensRights03/03/14 05:24 AM
1

Ok, sure, with the ex wife situation, maybe you have a point. But again, that's not relevant to the video, which deals with pure vandalism. I don't understand what your point is anymore. I agree with you that men have fewer rights in certain situations than women; that's why I'm on this subreddit.
/r/MensRights03/03/14 05:02 AM
1

Can you, as a man (I assume), vandalize a woman's property? If so, why do you choose not to? Probably because you view it as a childish and pussy thing to do. But if you did choose to do it, you would likely be treated the same as a woman in that situation. In fact, I'd argue that women are more likely to be stopped in the middle of vandalism than men, due to their relatively lesser physical strength. And as far as criminal punishments go, I'd guess that the gender differences influence the deci…
/r/MensRights03/03/14 03:33 AM
22

teachers..
/r/MensRights03/03/14 02:58 AM
2

I think vandalism is one area that men and women are treated relatively equally. Your point about men not destroying "women's property in a comparable way to what is happening here" is the exact reason why this video isn't relevant to men's rights. It's not an issue of rights or discrimination, since we rarely see the reverse situation.
/r/MensRights03/03/14 02:33 AM
1

Look, I understand what you're saying, and I agree, but this video does not represent that. If a guy is freaking out and fucking shit up, people are unlikely to stop him, especially if he has a weapon. Unless someone's in danger, no one's going to step in (and this is exactly what the police would advise someone to do - don't be a hero).
/r/MensRights03/03/14 01:24 AM
5

I agree, but that's not relevant to this video. People aren't going to intervene to save some object from violence. It's too risky and not worth it.
/r/MensRights02/03/14 11:10 PM
1

Usually because it would be the woman in danger, and not just her property?
/r/MensRights02/03/14 09:24 PM
2

Ah, I see the point you were making. Yeah, google search is so amazing, but leads to people thinking it's exactly what the entire world thinks (or sees, if the search the same thing). Unfortunate side effect :/
/r/MensRights28/02/14 06:23 PM
2

I guess it can lead to confirmation bias, but the title of the post is an extreme exaggeration. I especially didn't like the "according to google search," since google search isn't giving opinions/facts, simply early results.
/r/MensRights28/02/14 05:18 PM
1

oh, i see. I'm too lazy for that :3
/r/MGTOW28/02/14 04:19 PM
12

Street "harassment" usually refers to verbal stuff, not so much full on violence. And why blame google for using a general algorithm that's extremely good at sorting search results? I really don't think this is a legitimate complaint..
/r/MensRights28/02/14 04:14 PM
0

My reddit is set up such that all my comments get upvoted. How do I turn that off?
/r/MGTOW28/02/14 03:23 PM
1

Do u not auto-upvote your own comments? o.O
/r/MGTOW28/02/14 03:34 AM
12

It's true, but if she's going that far, why not let white/asian kids leave first? They're also "generally more better behaved" fuck her
/r/MensRights28/02/14 01:37 AM
-2

He's around 34. Story checks out
/r/MensRights28/02/14 01:27 AM
3

I'd say I feel similarly. I don't see them as sex objects, just potential friends that I'd rather not spend time on. I really don't know how to approach this problem (of feminism brainwashing, not my lack of attachment). Plus, many of my friends are happy enough in their mindset, and I doubt they'd listen until it's something that directly affects/concerns them.
/r/MGTOW26/02/14 06:58 AM
0

It's definitely more like the latter scenario (stronger doesn't always benefit). I really should remember where I got my information from, since it probably would have helped throughout this thread, by I honestly don't remember. But yeah, I'm just saying "men are stronger," not that they necessarily benefit.
/r/MensRights25/02/14 03:32 AM
0

Hey, I remember replying to this, but looks like it didn't go through (or I refreshed the page or something). No, I haven't, thank you for informing me of this.
/r/MensRights25/02/14 02:48 AM
-1

This is becoming quite tiresome. I didn't come here to debate who has it tougher. The stuff I said was not unfounded, and thus not assumptions. They had basis in the books I read and my own experiences. It seems you are focused on how men are "also" treated unfairly, which I had already mentioned. Ok, just got to the part where you say I have a "feminist mindset." Fuck that. Clearly, you are putting my words, thoughts, and "arguments" into a box that they shouldn't be in. I've agreed with pretty…
/r/MensRights25/02/14 01:42 AM
-1

I think all of these subthreads have me somehow defending a belief I don't agree with: that "men have caused women's oppression." I was only trying to say women are oppressed. It's not like in the west, where this story would signify how hard it is for me. It's just signifying what's wrong with the system itself, and now how it's going to screw men due to more westernized/"liberal" laws to empower women. Women do need more power, but not like this.
/r/MensRights25/02/14 12:32 AM
-1

I tried to approach this issue (my original comment) by addressing that both genders suffer. I know it's not black/white, and I agree with the points you are making. I believe it was GirlWritesWhat that mentioned how historically, men enjoyed more freedom due to the responsibility on their shoulders. I just wanted to make the point that this case does not speak for all the women who are treated unfairly and systematically oppressed. I'm not saying men aren't oppressed by their roles, because the…
/r/MensRights25/02/14 12:29 AM
-1

Of course boys are more likely to be beaten. That just comes with the gender. They aren't going to hit girls, who are supposed to be protected. Usually, yes, they have a choice (I"m saying after primary schooling). And yes, there's that expectation.
/r/MensRights24/02/14 11:50 PM
0

I remember now that you have reminded me. If they are weak/in need, they are helped last, but as kids growing up, they benefit from the culture. They also have more freedom, in general, than women do (not legally, but practically).
/r/MensRights24/02/14 11:33 PM
-1

Ok, after all these threads, I'm losing track of who's who. Let's say that men don't necessarily have the power, but they aren't oppressed by the culture. So, they may not dictate the rules, but they do benefit from the social norms and enjoy more freedom.
/r/MensRights24/02/14 11:31 PM
-1

I didn't abandon it today. TOday's the first time I've used it. They are culturally oppressed. I don't see what you want me to provide? Women get raped, can't do much. Can't get educated without family consent. Can't get married. Can't really make financial decision unless husband consents. What more do u want??
/r/MensRights24/02/14 11:16 PM
-1

I didn't know about the last point, but guys have much more choice than the girls do. Boys are adored in the household, looked at as full of potential, to represent the family. Almost all of them are educated unless they don't want to or the money isn't there. They take precedence over their sisters (younger or older).
/r/MensRights24/02/14 11:12 PM
-1

I abandoned the term patriarchy in this thread, already? My general claim is that women are "culturally oppressed." I've provided my evidence, take it or leave it. I'm usually on the MRA side of debates, and I don't care to argue at all today
/r/MensRights24/02/14 10:52 PM
0

How did I ignore it? I've mentioned that rape is so much a problem in India, that it's sparked national psa's and attention. They don't have much autonomy. They don't get to be educated unless their parents let them. They don't get to marry unless their parents let them. They just have less say than men.
/r/MensRights24/02/14 10:25 PM
-1

Ok, I'll submit to the patriarchy point, mostly because it's loaded with things attached to it that I don't agree with. But men do have the power. It's in a period of transition where legislature will be written similar to the west, but men, traditionally, have the power.
/r/MensRights24/02/14 10:23 PM
-1

I posted here to inform. And people like you are the reason why I'm hesitant to post at all, but I feel that the problem of female oppression is just as real as the injustices towards men in India.
/r/MensRights24/02/14 10:06 PM
-1

I already said about the rapes and marriage. Women just aren't able to be as independent (financially) as they might like, especially in non-urbanized parts.
/r/MensRights24/02/14 09:48 PM
0

both and neither
/r/MensRights24/02/14 09:46 PM
-1

It's called laziness. I see no point in trying to defend this, when I'm not even trying to make an argument. I'm just trying to inform others of the situation, and don't care so much for the labels
/r/MensRights24/02/14 09:46 PM
-3

It's not that they're helped last, but can be hurt when trying to help those they value.
/r/MensRights24/02/14 09:23 PM
-1

It's complicated, and I don't want to defend a specific point. My main point was that women are culturally "oppressed," but India is in a period of transition. The judicial system depends largely on who is on what case.
/r/MensRights24/02/14 09:22 PM
0

I was working on my response to Mitthrawnuruodo1337 almost a couple hours ago, but had to go to class. I think it sort of addresses/agrees with the points you are making. About this particular article, I'm definitely siding with the boy, but I was saying it's the exception to the rule. A year or so ago, India was holding a public campaign just to get guys to stop raping girls since it was that big of a problem. This wouldn't happen if rape prosecutions could accurately and severely punish the cr…
/r/MensRights24/02/14 07:53 PM
-3

Because, culturally, that's what it is. The establishment of the patriarchy does come with some downsides to being a man. Patriarchy just means men have the power and make the rules, which is largely true in India.
/r/MensRights24/02/14 07:46 PM
0

I wouldn't be able to give an actual "source." (Any cultural documentary would probably do, though.) It's not so much political patriarchy as much as cultural. The law shits on everyone due to corruption and money. Which means that whoever is stronger, benefits. Generally speaking, men are more powerful due to being breadwinners and being physically stronger, so a woman's words and actions don't do much unless backed by many supporters (this could be a political party, or a village mob). They al…
/r/MensRights24/02/14 07:45 PM
1

I think this article is referring to relationships, not just one night stands. From that perspective, I agree with what it's trying to say.
/r/MensRights21/02/14 07:59 PM
24

wow, thanks for sharing I've never seen that
/r/MensRights21/02/14 03:46 AM
2

"Reasonable" is different for different people. That's why these issues are so difficult to debate and especially pass legislature for.
/r/MensRights21/02/14 01:37 AM
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