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1	I think if an “alone at night would you feel more wary encountering a strange man or strange woman?” hypothetical went viral instead of the “bear” one, men would have still been aggrieved Now you talk about things all the time that you have never heard come out before. Ahh I see the confusion, you can't follow a train of thought better than a bag of marbles. For your information, I was talking about my comment about how "everyone should ask questions". Why you would try to tie that back to some other comment about your Cherry picking your arguments, I have no idea why. Try reading the comments in order, it might help.	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/05/24 07:44 AM
2	I think if an “alone at night would you feel more wary encountering a strange man or strange woman?” hypothetical went viral instead of the “bear” one, men would have still been aggrieved I see comprehension wasn't a strong suit of yours, or are you intentionally misrepresenting what I said so you can be the victim?	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/05/24 07:40 AM
1	I think if an “alone at night would you feel more wary encountering a strange man or strange woman?” hypothetical went viral instead of the “bear” one, men would have still been aggrieved Nice attempt to move the goal posts. What on this grassy green earth are you talking about? You ask a question so I answered, like if you didn't like the answer don't ask the question. You've never heard anyone talk about this stuff before, but now it's not only normal but necessary. But like no really what are you talking about because I have no clue. I talk about this all the time because it's something I believe in. Everything has an equal an opposite reaction, so everything has to be taken i…	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/05/24 07:38 AM
1	I think if an “alone at night would you feel more wary encountering a strange man or strange woman?” hypothetical went viral instead of the “bear” one, men would have still been aggrieved Lol, you done with your grasping at straws monologue?	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/05/24 07:33 AM
1	I think if an “alone at night would you feel more wary encountering a strange man or strange woman?” hypothetical went viral instead of the “bear” one, men would have still been aggrieved Really? What planet are you living on that this is abnormal and you have never heard these things? Ohh, the planet with grass that I regularly touch.	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/05/24 07:32 AM
0	I think if an “alone at night would you feel more wary encountering a strange man or strange woman?” hypothetical went viral instead of the “bear” one, men would have still been aggrieved It's not the norm for women to be asked what they were wearing if they were raped or what they were doing? Is it normal to ask a guy what he was doing because he was accused of sexual assault? It should be, people should ask questions to develop their own understanding of the situations and come to their own conclusions instead of just believing anything. Look, I know it sucks when people don't just believe you but you also can't realistically expect people to just automatically believe you just…	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/05/24 07:29 AM
1	I think if an “alone at night would you feel more wary encountering a strange man or strange woman?” hypothetical went viral instead of the “bear” one, men would have still been aggrieved You grew up with bears too. How many times were you killed? Oh I picked the guy instead of the bear so non	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/05/24 07:14 AM
3	I think if an “alone at night would you feel more wary encountering a strange man or strange woman?” hypothetical went viral instead of the “bear” one, men would have still been aggrieved It's a large amount of men saying this shit. Like who, your the first person I have heard it come out of someones mouth. Moreover assuming it is, y'all gonna stand by Andrew Tate and his goons and say "see this guy said it". Again it's not mens hypocrisy, it's your own. You bad mouth and bash men who say those thing because they aren't the normal, then cherry pick the same guys and say it's the normal... Get a life.	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/05/24 05:37 AM
–	I think if an “alone at night would you feel more wary encountering a strange man or strange woman?” hypothetical went viral instead of the “bear” one, men would have still been aggrieved Is this a debate sub or not. No it's not, it's a angry void sub where people come to vent and fight each other for the sake of people the biggest victim, Or to watch the live entertainment. You should know this, since no one actually moderate the sub properly and promotes a proper logical debate (you know like the competition but just more laid back). Instead the mods just moved yelling screach fests into the debate flair, and who knows what else where else. This sub is no more of a debate sub a…	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/05/24 05:33 AM
0	I think if an “alone at night would you feel more wary encountering a strange man or strange woman?” hypothetical went viral instead of the “bear” one, men would have still been aggrieved You do realize literally talking to a girl counts as being threatening because, and I quote this "she felt threatened"... Like the is literally almost nothing a man can do to prevent or cause these numbers to go down because quite literally its someone else's feeling and not cold hard facts.	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/05/24 05:26 AM
-1	I think if an “alone at night would you feel more wary encountering a strange man or strange woman?” hypothetical went viral instead of the “bear” one, men would have still been aggrieved "When is the last time you heard of someone you personally know being raped/beaten/or murdered by a man?" But... Your didn't answer the question... so, well I guess you did in a way.	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/05/24 05:23 AM
1	I think if an “alone at night would you feel more wary encountering a strange man or strange woman?” hypothetical went viral instead of the “bear” one, men would have still been aggrieved I grew up with bears. They were never aggressive or threatening. I grew up with men too and I can not say the same about them. You sure you aren't confusing the two? I grew up with bears as well, one would swim in the pond and play with our dogs. However there was a Limited amount of things you did/do around/to said bears. Absolutely nothing compared to what you can/could do/did to men without them ripping your throat out.	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/05/24 05:21 AM
4	I think if an “alone at night would you feel more wary encountering a strange man or strange woman?” hypothetical went viral instead of the “bear” one, men would have still been aggrieved Y'all bash bat shit insane men all the time for their wild non grounded ideas. But suddenly when it benefits y'all treat them like their ideas are the norm, or at least acceptes... Men say that the father or another male relative needs to vet and approve a man for her safety. Ya, this is what I call one of those guys. Stop cherry picking for the sake of being trying to be right, it's gross and makes you no better than Donald Trump.	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/05/24 05:19 AM
4	I think if an “alone at night would you feel more wary encountering a strange man or strange woman?” hypothetical went viral instead of the “bear” one, men would have still been aggrieved you’re not a woman so your immediate reaction is likely not “oh shit this recluse mf is going to perhaps try to rape me or try to do m some forced sexual shit” Yes that's problem part 2. With the situation "if you were to be stuck in the wood, would you rather be stuck with a bear or man". Womens default answer to literally any guy on the planet should not be : oh shit this recluse mf is going to perhaps try to rape me or try to do m some forced sexual shit” Like, that's some insane as professio…	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/05/24 05:14 AM
2	I think if an “alone at night would you feel more wary encountering a strange man or strange woman?” hypothetical went viral instead of the “bear” one, men would have still been aggrieved I mean it really depends if she doing anything weird, all it takes is one actuation for her to end my life. However, if it's just pick a sex and bam beamed into the matrix ehh probably a guy. At least if I get the shit kicked out of me I won't be labeled as a sex offender for not being a bear. Also, You do realize the question was "if you were to be stuck in the words would you rather be stuck with a man or a bear?". Now this is extremely important because about half the women "problem" with men…	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/05/24 05:09 AM
6	What are some toxic things you find being done in dating or relationships? Ohhhh duck do I feel that one. No anything said to them that isn't positive is not a personal attack...	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/05/24 06:10 AM
4	What are some toxic things you find being done in dating or relationships? I have a explaintion to this comment. As a guy, your pressured into doing sexual stuff because if you don't the girl your trying to date won't feel like your interested and bounce. Yes a huge number of women have talked about this, and how if a guy waits to long she starts to feel like he isn't attracted to her and she stops being interested. It's a really overly complicated fucked up game where guys have to gauge womens interest (without mind reading) and timing for sex, too early and your push…	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/05/24 06:08 AM
4	What are some toxic things you find being done in dating or relationships? The whole women calling men a "narcissist, insecure, or controlling" because they put up reasonable boundaries is sucking insane. Like, men need to just GTFO the literal moment a woman does that.	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/05/24 06:03 AM
3	CMV: There are arguable equal number of women who hate men as men who hate women For obvious reasons it's different for every woman but the common ones brought of are; Corporate world, lots of women think men just get the fast track to higher positions and pay for just being a man and cracking jokes. (The reality is most men slog and overwork them selfs and are constantly undervalued for only a few men to climb the later. Generally only the privileged get to climb and they didn't do a whole lot too). Dating, lots of women think dating is easy for men. Guys show up flirt and …	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/05/24 02:56 AM
1	Men who are decidedly not attracted to overweight women, how do you feel about women of healthy weight but large frames? Those massive "records" are total nonsense. So your comparing the at the times media's "all the rage" with actually just looking at what women looked like.... The thing about looking through history is we can use hindsight.	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/05/24 02:48 AM
1	CMV: There are arguable equal number of women who hate men as men who hate women Title of studie: "Face to Face" Me k I have seen enough, this guy clearly didn't get the memo.	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/05/24 05:33 PM
5	CMV: There are arguable equal number of women who hate men as men who hate women I see men doing it, But most men don't have "the sister hood". Most men have a few close dear friends that they don't need to lie to. If they need to lie to them they aren't friends. However, you are right there are communities where men lie more to protect their image such as in religious communities or people who are shallow af. But almost every woman I know constantly tells lies to not upset their friends and family. Most men I know will tell their friends and even just friends of friends the…	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/05/24 05:32 PM
1	CMV: There are arguable equal number of women who hate men as men who hate women I think they envy parts of mens life's and convinced themselves that the grass is greener on the other side. Aka they envy what they "think" mens life's are like. Do they want to be a guy no, they want to be them with those "parts" they envy.	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/05/24 05:27 PM
0	CMV: There are arguable equal number of women who hate men as men who hate women Generally speaking because they get more support (less to no back lash) from other women when they actually hate men. Things like they go on a date and their date is a peace of shit for them, regardless if he is or isn't. Women can openly say how they hate men or all men, and other women just kind of accept that to even protect them when someone does voice a complaint saying shit like "oh she it just venting". By all heavens other women will most definitely not tell them to stfu blue pill misand…	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/05/24 05:23 PM
–	Here's an interesting thought experiment I mean OP didn't really make it crystal clear, but ultimately it a question of; Would you take this new world that is free from sexual harassment and assault for all people (not just women, but yes for women as well) but you lose the sexual pleasure aspect. It's not meant to be a net positive change.	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/05/24 05:08 PM
1	Men who are decidedly not attracted to overweight women, how do you feel about women of healthy weight but large frames? The addition of "fat" girl posts is unnecessary as we aren't talking about them, so I don't know why you added that bit. Physical appearance that is appealing really doesn't. Nope. I literally said what the ideal body shape changes every 10 or so years... Seriously you can just go look it up, like there is a massive record of what people looked like over the years, from looking boyish with no curves to being a tall bean sprout with no muscle or fat to the thick ass and titis of today's ideals.	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/05/24 04:46 PM
1	Men who are decidedly not attracted to overweight women, how do you feel about women of healthy weight but large frames? I think it works slightly different for women. So I was mostly talking about men. The "attractive" look changes every like 10 years so ya it's not a fixed thing.	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/05/24 08:26 AM
–	Men who are decidedly not attracted to overweight women, how do you feel about women of healthy weight but large frames? It does actually, she could have huge bones like massive hard sausage.	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/05/24 08:23 AM
1	Men who are decidedly not attracted to overweight women, how do you feel about women of healthy weight but large frames? Wait then so who's wrist did you post holding the bottles?	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/05/24 08:21 AM
1	Dating advice by men, for women? Humans started fire with just two sticks for centuries, no sparks needed.	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/05/24 05:00 AM
1	Dating advice by men, for women? The point is that most people have hobbies Okay, we are sorry. We ment a constructive hobby, one that has skills to be improved or a development process. Yes watching YouTube can be a hobbies, but your really not going to get any better at it by watching more YouTube. Etc for the rest of the Media consumption/use hobbies.	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/05/24 04:57 AM
1	Dating advice by men, for women? A hobbies is not just something you spend time doing, it's something your passionate about. Work, chores, and sleeping are not hobbies even though it's what people people spend most of their time doing.	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/05/24 04:52 AM
1	Dating advice by men, for women? Yes... I think having hobbies is a pretty good place of advice..? Like I'm actually confused how that prompted you to write this comment, should people not have hobbies?.. Like do you wanna date someone who doesn't have hobbies or can't hold a conversation?.. Be real with me now, this one isn't really an "unpopular" opinion, people like to be with people who do things and stuff..	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/05/24 04:45 AM
1	Dating advice by men, for women? Do some men give good advice? Yes. When I say men give good advice, it roughly translates into "there is good advice that a number of men can give". I don't mean this in an offensive way, so please don't take it as such. ... I won't, but it should also be evidently clear that I wasn't talking about every random unsolicited advice any man has given you. OR they're giving good advice that everyone already understands objectively, I mean, what I said should probably be on the list if it isn't. I wo…	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/05/24 04:43 AM
1	Dating advice by men, for women? Though I do agree with you that those ones aren't really that good. Small tips like that are really just testing the water to see if people are actually really open to more in-depth information. Dating in nuonced by nature, what makes to simulator people different one attractive then other not (physicality remove), its the nuonce Which makes it extremely difficult to give solid playbook advice.	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/05/24 03:56 AM
1	Women harp endlessly about entitlement and men feeling “owed” but in reality most people expect to be able get someone similar to them in all areas and framing this as “entitlement” is a deflection from the real issue That's a lot of words for saying nothing, and not actually knowing if "you" can tell the difference. Take a step back and stop judging everyone so harshly, because based on your comment, you don't really know how to tell the difference because venting and pure unadulterated hate.	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/05/24 07:45 AM
2	Dating advice by men, for women? I think "don't date for the tingles (spark)" is pretty good advice. Like if you talk to a guy who is getting really ba dates and you see he is only chasing after the hot bimbo types, your problem going to tell him to start chasing tail and find someone with a brain. Like this isn't a complicated topic and doesn't matter what sex or gender. When one of your primary requirements is lust, your going to miss a lot of everything else.	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/05/24 07:40 AM
-6	Dating advice by men, for women? Little bit rude, but the dude gives some solid advice.	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/05/24 07:36 AM
0	Dating advice by men, for women? I find men give good advice, women just don't like it and refuse to act on it. Some good advice that women hate with a passion is "the spark is a lie, don't go after it" and "make the first move, approach and hit on a guy". Very few women accept these two peaces of advice.	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/05/24 07:34 AM
0	Dating advice by men, for women? The spark is a massive lie, it's just your own brains version on heroin shot straight into your brain. If you chase the spark, you will never be able to objectively thing about your love. Love is a slow burn, like an ember in a fireplace that refuses to go out, not a hot flame that burns out extremely quickly only burning you in the process.	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/05/24 07:32 AM
–	Women promote ridiculous and overly broad definitions of sexual assault So you literally don't understand biology huh? Fight, flight, or freeze are involuntary reactions. Ya, so the fight or flight instinct is a biological response to extremely high stressful environments, aka the body feels like it's "do or die". Soooo with that said, if you, or anyone, ends up in a fight or flight response on a regular basis, they should seek professional help. That's not healthy any they shouldn't be perceiving the world as that hostile that often. So ya I stand with my comment. …	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/05/24 07:26 AM
1	Women harp endlessly about entitlement and men feeling “owed” but in reality most people expect to be able get someone similar to them in all areas and framing this as “entitlement” is a deflection from the real issue However, how can you justify getting angry or hating others because of dating difficulties? Depends can you tell the difference between venting and hating...	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/05/24 07:17 AM
0	How likely are you to believe someone who says they've been raped? What factors would influence your judgement? All rape is sexual assault but not every sexual assault is rape. This is correct, but I would argue that people aren't raped more than someone says they are. Especially when you consider the difference in claims of rape vs police reports filed for them (yes some can be real events that someone didn't want to go through) but it's like 10+x more claims of rape then reports. Sexual assault is a different can of worms because it's literally defined as assault that is sexual in nature, which translat…	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/05/24 07:27 AM
0	How likely are you to believe someone who says they've been raped? What factors would influence your judgement? I'm going off the only standard universal definition, legal. Other than that, anyone can have any situation and call it rape, which is absolutely terrible for actually rape victims.	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/05/24 07:24 AM
1	Women harp endlessly about entitlement and men feeling “owed” but in reality most people expect to be able get someone similar to them in all areas and framing this as “entitlement” is a deflection from the real issue I think getting rebuffed because you express distain for a negative situation is a pretty big problem, if you ask me. You ask them what, normally people talk and it, unfortunately men aren't really allowed to without getting bashed.	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/05/24 07:23 AM
1	How likely are you to believe someone who says they've been raped? What factors would influence your judgement? It's okay, I believe you and we can talk about your experiences being raped.	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/05/24 07:51 AM
0	How likely are you to believe someone who says they've been raped? What factors would influence your judgement? So your playing a zero gain game. First one to make up an accusation win, and you cut the other person out of your life. Interested, that sure as hell can be abused by people, especially if they are trying to get you to stay away from certain people. Critical thinking isn't a skill we all have but it is one that we should strive for.	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/05/24 07:50 AM
3	How likely are you to believe someone who says they've been raped? What factors would influence your judgement? When it comes to rape, the burden of proof to me is on the rapist to prove they didn’t rape. You have sentenced them to death... No but actually your asking them to prove a negative, which isn't scientifically possible, especially when considering your not asking for evidence from the victim. Like for example, how can you prove to me your not a donkey fucker. Unless you have a live uncut recording of your life that I can watch, you could have fucked a donkey at some point. Hell then you need to …	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/05/24 07:48 AM
0	How likely are you to believe someone who says they've been raped? What factors would influence your judgement? Sure at least 50.01% of people don't lie about rape, unfortunately we don't need 50% of people to lie about it to make an impact. Even something as small as 10% or 5% of people lieing about rape would make a ducking massive impact on social, so a much more reasonable 1% ish is enough. And before you lose your shit, just think to your self "would I answer the same if it was a question about men raping women?" Because I bet your ass that even 1% of men raping women would still be considered Unacce…	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/05/24 07:42 AM
1	How likely are you to believe someone who says they've been raped? What factors would influence your judgement? Well they better get a job so they can afford a lawyer/s	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/05/24 07:38 AM
0	How likely are you to believe someone who says they've been raped? What factors would influence your judgement? What exactly do you feel a woman has to gain by lying about such a thing Many users have said a number of good ones so here are some less conved ones. To assert control Abuse For fun (this one takes from the above ones) Ultimately if comes down to bad people are going to be bad people, gender is irrelevant on if a person is going to be bad or not. It's a life threatening clame for them to make, and there is absolutely zero recourse on her side of things.	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/05/24 07:35 AM
2	How likely are you to believe someone who says they've been raped? What factors would influence your judgement? In the victim complex of the Internet world, ya it can very easily. Note prestige and status are different things.	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/05/24 07:33 AM
-6	How likely are you to believe someone who says they've been raped? What factors would influence your judgement? Pretty much always because it’s more than likely true. For if they say rape or sexual assault? Rape is stronger if a word and people tend to limit it use, but sexual assault is wildly overused.	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/05/24 07:31 AM
1	How likely are you to believe someone who says they've been raped? What factors would influence your judgement? Mhe levels, it really depends on how they act/acted now that I have that information (Ie I'm looking for them to show it and not just tell me) Dark humor about it is probably going to fastest way for me to believe you, other behaviors would work two. But just falling into "woe is me" isn't going to cut it for me.	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/05/24 07:30 AM
5	Women harp endlessly about entitlement and men feeling “owed” but in reality most people expect to be able get someone similar to them in all areas and framing this as “entitlement” is a deflection from the real issue I'm mean sure that could be where it stems from, but it really sounds a lot more like he feels he isn't allowed to have negative feelings for being rejected because he is a man, due to women constantly broadcasting that "men need to lose the ego, women don't own me anything" etc. Tldr, the strawman your trying to pull on a man just sharing his feelings is probably part of the problem.	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/05/24 07:25 AM
16	Women harp endlessly about entitlement and men feeling “owed” but in reality most people expect to be able get someone similar to them in all areas and framing this as “entitlement” is a deflection from the real issue That's kind of OP's point. Sure men bitch and complain just like women, but women treat it as entitlement when men do it but not when women do it...	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/05/24 08:25 PM
2	What is your most arbitrary “deal-breaker” when contemplating a serious relationship w/someone? There it is. It's not that you don't not like content creation stuff but actually you want them to have hobbies inline with your own.	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/05/24 08:14 PM
0	What is your most arbitrary “deal-breaker” when contemplating a serious relationship w/someone? I think your only looking at it on a surface level, as t there is a lot that goes into content creation like cinematography, directing, writing, art, market analysis, etc.	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/05/24 06:59 PM
–	About dating younger women Yaa half the tinder dates have all been women setting their minimum age in the app to be 5 to 8 years older than them.	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/05/24 04:56 PM
3	What is your most arbitrary “deal-breaker” when contemplating a serious relationship w/someone? So your problem isn't with them having their only hobby being just the consumption of content, you rather you have a problem with their hobbies only interacting with content?	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/05/24 04:55 PM
2	Women promote ridiculous and overly broad definitions of sexual assault So your saying people can't talk about society constructs without because attacked because everyone is butt hurt? It's early so Im not ready good at adding sugar to make it sound better. But your comment really sounds like the concept of sexual assault is agreed upon and because OP dares to question it that makes him a doofus and a bad person. When I'm saying this I'm taking in mind that OP does actually call out that things like duress isn't allowed and shouldn't be. OPs entire post in on two p…	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/05/24 03:34 PM
1	Women promote ridiculous and overly broad definitions of sexual assault The point ------> --------------------You	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/05/24 03:23 PM
2	Women promote ridiculous and overly broad definitions of sexual assault Oh you mean like a girl jumping on your bone when you get home and riding you for a few hours, but did she actually say "Yes" enthusiastic? Because if not that just enthusiastically implicit consent, it doesn't matter if she said loves it or keep going because that's not an explicit enthusiastic "yes" to a proposed question. I have worked in the medical field before and the burden of consent (you know the thing you need before doing anything and everything) is like it's one 4 month course. This …	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/05/24 03:15 PM
5	Women promote ridiculous and overly broad definitions of sexual assault enthusiastic consent Most women don't and won't enthusiastically consent, hell I would say most don't even consent with a solid yes, the vast majority of consent is implicit. Hell one of the girl I dated couldn't even muster up the courage make the move and kiss me, not that she didn't want anything to happen she would just freeze when she thought about it.	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/05/24 08:03 AM
3	Women promote ridiculous and overly broad definitions of sexual assault This comment only works until you question what "consent" is, which is what OP did. consent gets real gray really fast and no one like sit tall about it because everyone is all butt hurt when the answer isn't beneficial to them. For example someone can say no and mean yes Someone can say nothing and mean yes Someone can say nothing and mean no Someone can say yes and mean no Someone can say no and mean no Someone can say yes and mean yes Someone can say yes and the government says no Someone can…	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/05/24 07:53 AM
13	Women promote ridiculous and overly broad definitions of sexual assault Regardless if OPs argument, this takes more into understanding what under duress actually implies.	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/05/24 07:45 AM
3	Women promote ridiculous and overly broad definitions of sexual assault Last time drunk people love to have sex, it's the sober version of themselves that didn't.	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/05/24 07:43 AM
1	Women promote ridiculous and overly broad definitions of sexual assault you lost me on the second. Coercion relies on fear, and if someone makes you afraid, you’re not really of a sound mind to consent freely I agree and disagree at the same time. Yes forcing someone via fear isn't right and shouldn't be legal. However, there is no universal qualification/quantification of someone's fear, which makes it incredibly hard to understand someone else's fear. I know of a few women who are scared to be in the same room as a man and said yes to not provoke the "scary men"..…	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/05/24 07:40 AM
14	Women promote ridiculous and overly broad definitions of sexual assault Even Canada's laws are gray af. Look up what the precedent is for if two girls are intoxicated, or a guys and a girl, or two guys, it's all over the place and not properly defined.	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/05/24 07:33 AM
10	Women promote ridiculous and overly broad definitions of sexual assault I actually find the comments section on this post to be more interesting then the post it self. Though OP makes some hot takes, logically they do make sense and isolate what is and isn't sexual misconduct, regardless if you agree with them or not. However the comments are sometimes completely as there are a large number of users who just took to attacking OP with strawmen arguments vs anything OP said. (Stuff like "men like him are definitely sex offender"). Just as a heads up, regardless which …	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/05/24 07:28 AM
2	50/50 should be the norm, anyone who think otherwise is entitled. Drizzle drizzle Besides having a baby together, room mates do it all the time. And having a baby together is just more chores to add to the list.	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/05/24 09:17 PM
1	The brouhaha over the bear is not about misandry or risk. It’s about who is allowed to criticize male behavior or have a negative reaction to it (hint: not women) Sooo your argument as to why it doesn't sound derogatory is "men are intrusively a threat to women". Again, try reading history books that covers the 40 years around the civil war, you will find a suspicious amount of overlap between how your justifying your dislike for men and how they justified their dislike for black people.	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/05/24 09:12 PM
3	The brouhaha over the bear is not about misandry or risk. It’s about who is allowed to criticize male behavior or have a negative reaction to it (hint: not women) Black people aren’t inherently and significantly more motivated or skilled at committing crimes than other races I mean, neither are men so what's your point.	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/05/24 10:28 PM
26	What is a common piece of dating advice that is worthless in your experience? Bingo. Women so rarely have to deal with getting a man attracted to them that they genuinely don't recognize/understand that getting the other person interested/attractived to literally step 1. Thats why when you point it out to them, their go to is "you shouldn't have to get someone interested in you they either are or not. If your trying to make someone interested in you, your trying to hard and desperate". If dating were a race, Women start at the halfway mark and think it's the start line, m…	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/05/24 06:46 PM
5	The brouhaha over the bear is not about misandry or risk. It’s about who is allowed to criticize male behavior or have a negative reaction to it (hint: not women) More like Men: blames some women for x, y, z Women: throws all men under the buss for a few men doing a, b, c Men: hey that's kind of rude and could be considered derogatory to assume that as most men don't do a, b, c and actually stand against it. Women: Are you oppressing me. God Jesus men can't just let things go, can't they understand that this is the truth. Men: wtf, is wrong with you. Women: StOp TrYiNg To CoNtRoL wOmEn YoU MaSoGyNiSt InSeL. ///////// Don't believe me, just look at row vs …	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/05/24 06:25 PM
17	The brouhaha over the bear is not about misandry or risk. It’s about who is allowed to criticize male behavior or have a negative reaction to it (hint: not women) Black men are men. That's kind of the point. Ultimately it shouldn't change the outcome, however it changes and highlight the question to sound racist, similar to "black men commit more crimes so more black men deserve to be in jail". It changes the question from a systemic gendered issue to a systemic racist issue to highlight just how derogatory the question really is. Like 60 years ago the question about being suck in the forest with a black man wouldn't have made anyone bat at eye at it, wit…	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/05/24 06:13 PM
7	Why do many men say that older women or single moms are less desirable for dating? I would argue in the literal term they are losing value, not because some red/blue pill value calculation, but because they have more baggage that people don't want to deal with. It's not different than someone who has a large sign above their head saying "I have BPD" or chronic depression, etc. it's just a huge burden that a lot of other people don't want to deal with. Contrary to belief, I think successful men might like these types of women due to them being more inclined to be a home manager…	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/05/24 03:34 AM
1	Violence statistics men vs women vs bears Really because if you replace women with man, it kind of sound eerily similar to what a hell of a lot of women say...	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/05/24 09:22 PM
1	Violence statistics men vs women vs bears So here is the dig. Outwardly I'm going to treat them like a regular human being that has feelings, until they do something that proves that I shouldn't. Inwardly I'm going to consider the possibility that they might do something because they haven't proven me they wouldn't. All together, they are going to get treated like a genuine human that has feelings unless they do something nefarious.	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/05/24 09:19 PM
4	Violence statistics men vs women vs bears Do you know how many women and posted statistics on this as well.... Don't act like it just men that are ridiculous.	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/05/24 09:14 PM
3	Violence statistics men vs women vs bears Let also not forget about the fact that women tend to perceive actions against them by people they feel are threatening, regardless if they are threatening or not, as harassment or acts of violence. I have literally seen multiple new reports of "lady waking down the street or waiting for the bus gets attacked by strange man". Yet when you actually read one happened, it's like a guy feel down and bumped her then got up and left, or he was running and bumped into her and kept going.	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/05/24 09:11 PM
6	Men being okay with women who are insecure or have low self esteem is not due to them being easier to push around, this is false and plain misandry, at the same time women dont date the male counterparts, not because of righteousness or virtue, but because they find those men unattractive Everything around why you posted a link to a blue pill women calling gulable women sexy? Like I'm not sure how a single atom of that is self explained...	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/05/24 06:37 AM
1	Why are men like this? I don't get it, is the behavior yelling at you for "being flirty" or coming up and "claiming you"? The yelling is, well most don't and shouldn't. The claiming is actually pretty simple, unpopular opinion (even though women have admitted to it being true) for women "no, don't mean no". In actuality, every time I have gone out to the clubs I can easily fine 3 to 6 guys that get rebuffed by the same women for like 30 minutes only for her to them let in and go with him. Beyond she didn't know him so…	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/05/24 02:41 AM
2	Why is the danger sense of women very confusing. I think with what OP is talking about the correct response is "people do a victim cost benefit analysis".	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/05/24 02:35 AM
2	Why do women complain about men or the patriarchy on first / second dates with men? A fair amount of the time it's a conversation starter, either they just bring it up or it was adjacent to something else talked about. Literally it's just the female version of 4chan users, but because WoW no one wants to consider that and feels like there Has to be a reason why women (a human) would act unhinged.	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/05/24 02:32 AM
1	Why do women complain about men or the patriarchy on first / second dates with men? Or maybe she actually thinks like this. I love how this is your last option of what it could be, when in reality it's more often it's the reason. A substantial number of normal looking women will openly say that "all men are shut" and how they "hate all men". Obviously they don't actually believe every man is shit and they hate them, as to them they are just venting, but they definitely don't have a good opinion of any man unless proven otherwise. Not to mention imagine if a guy said that shit i…	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/05/24 02:29 AM
2	The terms boys will be boys and man up are very misunderstood and not harmful So many people misuse it to push their own native. "Boys will be boys" = boys with rough house and de dumb shit. All this sexist shit is not and has never been part of "boys will be boys"... r\quityourbullshit	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/05/24 02:22 AM
3	“Hive mind” is male-speak for “consideration of and for others.” That is correct, but like is said, they talk as if it is a thing.	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/05/24 09:23 PM
-1	If makeup were illegal, it might not entirely fix the current situation but it would change it significantly wtf is "night cream"? moisturizer for overnight I can understand but "night cream" just sounds like it was made up by Big Makeup.	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/05/24 07:40 AM
4	“Hive mind” is male-speak for “consideration of and for others.” Yaaa, women tend to speak more in terms of the hive mind rather than what the general population actually wants. I think it's that that don't consider what the general female population actually wants and/or frames their own wants as something greater at an attempt of manipulation.	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/05/24 07:33 AM
–	Women's spaces have a hard time trying view men as human. I mean it's a no brainer but why don't men start posting the same questions of "man was given the choice because being stuck in the forest with a woman and a bear, which would they pick". Like the question is self is going to get womens bridges twisted, not to mention the droves of men that would say the bear. Just imagine how much these same women pushing how this question has valid deep notes are going to start screaming misogyny...	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/05/24 04:43 AM
1	Men aren't pick enough Have you ever dated someone, it like the 3 date when you actually get any glimpse of who they are really. Dating in inherently shallow and the vast majority of people put a false face on and become someone they are not in the goal of getting their date to have a good opinion of them. Thus it's never as simple as "date someone you have stuff in common with" and pushing it as such as idealistic at best and dangerous naive at worst.	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/05/24 06:26 PM
1	For men who prefer that women don’t wear makeup or say it’s not necessary - share a picture of a woman you find attractive not wearing makeup? At this point I have just come to the understanding that y'all just can't accept when a girl isn't wearing makeup and still looks pretty. I haven't seen you accept a single "no makeup" imagine as no makeup and you always have something to say about them "well actually (fixes fedora ) they have makeup on". Like y'all know women aren't just attractive when they have makeup on right? Hell half my female friends in university didn't wear makeup, because who has the time and cares enough.	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/05/24 07:10 AM
1	For men who prefer that women don’t wear makeup or say it’s not necessary - share a picture of a woman you find attractive not wearing makeup? I'm pretty sensitive to spotting makeup on people, I'm an avid people watcher with sentive eyes to color and shallows. But ya, don't think the "no makeup" sides of the photos are wearing makeup. Though its not like women can't look pretty without makeup, hell half my female university friends didn't wear makeup and they were all still extremely extractive.	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/05/24 07:07 AM
1	For men who prefer that women don’t wear makeup or say it’s not necessary - share a picture of a woman you find attractive not wearing makeup? My gf literally can't wear makeup that often because it causes her skin to break out in a rash. I'm not going to lie, clearly skin with our makeup look is the best. Obviously breakouts aren't considered attractive (by either gender). The natural look with makeup is literally just trying to initiate looking like your pretty without makeup.	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/05/24 07:04 AM
1	Men aren't pick enough I'm really struggling to see how this isn't just "people lie through their teeth all the time". Y'know...like how we have always gotten into problems...	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/05/24 06:49 AM
–	Women are unable to handle rejection I didn't say that they all liked being rejected. Neither did I. It's not like there is some substantial difference between how men behave when rejected and how women behave when rejected. I agree to a degree. I think men are upset because woman like to push the idea that men are bad at dealing with rejection (Ie all this fear mongering about how women have to protect themselves when rejecting a man etc). For the most part I think general interactions, men are better at dealing with rejection due…	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/05/24 12:35 AM
3	Is not playing waiting games a turn-off? Women are very good at reading between the lines of communication. Cough cough, sorry I got some bullshit stuck in my throat. Women are not any better at this kind of shit than men, they just like to say and think they all. It's the same crap about how "women can detect a creep from a mile away". Unless women have some kind of clairvoyant gift no one made men understand, it's all a load of crap	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/05/24 11:03 PM
–	Women are unable to handle rejection Okay I will bite, Did they make move on you or just probe and set out really light feelers?	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/05/24 10:57 PM
–	Women are unable to handle rejection That hasn't been my experience. I'm actually interested on where you live, because rejecting a woman, in any way shape or form, is the fastest way to get ghosted at a minimum and normally just ends with them slandering you. Don't get me wrong there are a number of women that can handle it. But from our experience, the majority cannot and take some seriously emotional damage, especially if they approached because they felt all good and sexy only to shot down.	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/05/24 10:54 PM
–	Women are unable to handle rejection Lack of double standard and having double standard has everything to do with equality...	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/05/24 10:45 PM
–	Women are unable to handle rejection But if women suck Soo much at it, why are they Soo particular about it. I'm all game for equality, but like I'm not seeing it here.	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/05/24 10:43 PM
–	Women are unable to handle rejection The simple fact is that women don't want to risk the possibility of being rejected, and so again, t The number of women who say "men don't like to be approached" because they say they tried it a few of times (literally like 2 to 6) and got rejected every time, it astronomically high. Guys would be over the moon with joy if they could have a success rate of 20%. Hell guys would still be over the moon if they could have a 5% success rate and they would still be happy with a 1%....	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/05/24 10:38 PM
29	Men can now message first on Bumble There whole thing was "a dating app for women" so they added features to help and protect women. I think the message first one was to prevent getting bombed by messages when matching men (Ie they could continue to shop without 200 messages in their in box). Another feature that got them a tone of flack and made them lose a tone of female users, when they removed it, was the hight filter. Bumble allowed free accounts to use up to 2 filters for when finding matches ( excluding age and and sex). Th…	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/05/24 07:50 PM
16	Men can now message first on Bumble Ya, I didn't get it either. I think the lot of them just lumped it together with other dating apps.	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/05/24 07:43 PM
9	Men can now message first on Bumble That's was bumbles whole shtick, women aren't being bombed by messages. In actually it's less about women being message and way more about how sending a pickup line to strangers on the Internet is wayyy harder that it's initially anticipated.	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/05/24 07:41 PM
120	Men can now message first on Bumble The irony behind the fact that so many women, not only didn't know that women Had to message first, but then that a hell of a lot of them got upset because men that they matched with wouldn't message them first... Out of the women that I know used bubble, not even including online, about half of them didn't know that men couldn't message first. Some giving up and going to a different app and learning about the requirement years later.	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/05/24 04:48 PM
1	Why isn't the phrase "Nice girls finish last" as common? Sure thing boss... I hear grass is soft and green, you you be able to check this for me?	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/05/24 07:02 AM
1	On average women paid $499.96 for a date and men paid $861.29 in 2019. I mean I haven't once said I was a victim... I figured I would ignore your attempt at a strawman but you tried again so I will call you out on it.	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/05/24 09:46 PM
1	Why isn't the phrase "Nice girls finish last" as common? Tough pill to swallow, but I would argue immature and/or gullible get taken advantage of. It's all about recognizing who your dealing with. Unpopular opinion here, but I think women want love to be special and exciting. The unpopular part is this "special and exciting" is just a cocktail of hormones straight to the brain, it's not special it's just an addiction to drugs your body creates. Women tend to get hooked on this and often fail to see at the larger picture, often times making their judge…	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/05/24 09:30 PM
1	On average women paid $499.96 for a date and men paid $861.29 in 2019. Lol, did I hit a nerve there you lost all of your remaining intelligence?	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/05/24 09:15 PM
0	On average women paid $499.96 for a date and men paid $861.29 in 2019. I haven't dated in ages and when I did I always offered to pay or split, because I didn't like the dude paying. Did my part. You did... Say it with me now "women are not a monolith"... If you don't want to date women who expect you to pay....don't do it. It's that simple. It's not though. People are wired to want a romantic partner, telling people to "just don't get hungry" is a ridiculous approach to viewing the problem... Not to mention, that lots of women, I would say most, like the feeling o…	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/05/24 09:11 PM
0	Q4Men: Would you be mad if your friend didn’t let you stay overnight at his house after a bad experience with a house guest that overstayed? If not, then why be bitter if a woman has boundaries that she may not have had in the past? I never in my life stayed out partying all night. This is what makes you even more weird, your projecting. I never said all night, In fact one would assume that the use of a bed would indicate that it's not all night...	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/05/24 06:49 AM
1	Q4Men: Would you be mad if your friend didn’t let you stay overnight at his house after a bad experience with a house guest that overstayed? If not, then why be bitter if a woman has boundaries that she may not have had in the past? Where I don't see an answer https://ibb.co/MpwWYp7	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/05/24 06:48 AM
0	Q4Men: Would you be mad if your friend didn’t let you stay overnight at his house after a bad experience with a house guest that overstayed? If not, then why be bitter if a woman has boundaries that she may not have had in the past? Being cautious is not treating you like an NPC. Treating me the same as the bad guest is streaming me like an NPC. Again, it all comes down to reasoning, your know the human part of this interaction. I would never let someone I am not related to stay overnight at my house. And, no offense, but your weird AF. Me and my friend would share 2 to 4 in a single bed when we went out partying. I think it's normal to not expect your friends to try and do creepy shit when at your house.	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/05/24 06:39 AM
–	Why do women here try to assert that any man expressing frustration with dating must be undesirable or needs to improve in some way, and that they are some small fringe of the population? Every time I have asked a question in good faith it gets met with in unintelligible ramblings of hate and distain. Hell just look at any of the dating advice subs, the vast majority of the advice for shit like "my bf sneezed and now I think I don't find him as attractive, is this normal" is "dump him, you deserve someone your attracted to. Don't settle for anything less".	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/05/24 06:36 AM
-1	On average women paid $499.96 for a date and men paid $861.29 in 2019. Yes, we disagree. Currently the economy is fucking shit housing and food are through the roof, yet people are still paying for it.... Are you going to come out here and blame the people paying for food and rent for keeping the prices high??? Like same shit, you just don't want to acknowledge that women are privileged and need to commit to a sacrifice to create equality.	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/05/24 06:31 AM
0	On average women paid $499.96 for a date and men paid $861.29 in 2019. If that's true the data on the womens side is basically useless, basically because it's way less than what they said. If men don't count all the extra unpaid hours of work and their supplemens, women shouldn't be able to count makeup...	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/05/24 06:29 AM
2	Q4Men: Would you be mad if your friend didn’t let you stay overnight at his house after a bad experience with a house guest that overstayed? If not, then why be bitter if a woman has boundaries that she may not have had in the past? You still haven't answered the question, so I take it you don't believe in equality but rather superiority?	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/05/24 06:25 AM
5	Q4Men: Would you be mad if your friend didn’t let you stay overnight at his house after a bad experience with a house guest that overstayed? If not, then why be bitter if a woman has boundaries that she may not have had in the past? They can to that conclusion by projecting their problems and negative experiences of their life onto every man, including your comment. Don't take it personally, they just need professional help.	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/05/24 06:24 AM
3	Q4Men: Would you be mad if your friend didn’t let you stay overnight at his house after a bad experience with a house guest that overstayed? If not, then why be bitter if a woman has boundaries that she may not have had in the past? They trying to circle jerk because they can't find anyone else to talk to in their life's. Which is arguably worse than a reddit living in his mom's basement.	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/05/24 06:23 AM
5	Q4Men: Would you be mad if your friend didn’t let you stay overnight at his house after a bad experience with a house guest that overstayed? If not, then why be bitter if a woman has boundaries that she may not have had in the past? Man you just keep on digging don't you... It time to stop witch hunting and wake up and smell the roses	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/05/24 06:20 AM
1	Q4Men: Would you be mad if your friend didn’t let you stay overnight at his house after a bad experience with a house guest that overstayed? If not, then why be bitter if a woman has boundaries that she may not have had in the past? Title, yes. Though it depends on that the bad experience was, how recent it was, and how good and/or long we have been friends. Treating me like a individual with my own personality and not a carbon copy NPC is generally a required I have a my friends. If I'm nothing better than some random other person, are we really friends?	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/05/24 06:18 AM
1	“Double standards suck!”. . .unless. . . Hey,... we don't kink shame here.	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/05/24 07:54 AM
2	“Double standards suck!”. . .unless. . . Honeest question here, does that mean it makes more sense for woman to do care giving jobs? Biological speaking, yes proven by science, men are generally stronger than women and women have a more maternal bond with their kids. Going just off of the science of biology, wouldn't one mean the other should also be true?	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/05/24 07:52 AM
0	“Double standards suck!”. . .unless. . . The fact that you don't think men shave themselves is funny and shows how inexperienced you are in life. Also try shaving your face once to twice a day for 40 years, never mind balls, then come back to me about how terrible shaving is.	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/05/24 07:47 AM
2	Q4M: When you say “women are wonderful” effect, can you provide some examples of why, how, and what is causing that effect? That's dumb af, as you just renamed CMV to debate and ignored the definition of debate. No wonder why this place has gotten so worse.	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/05/24 07:38 AM
2	Q4M: When you say “women are wonderful” effect, can you provide some examples of why, how, and what is causing that effect? Ya, I I agree with the other user. This is a CMV not a debate thread. aka you don't want an open discussion to better your own understanding, you want to fight people who you don't agree with until they agree with you... And your a mod, this isn't a good example for how people should debate in god faith.	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/05/24 05:55 AM
7	Q4M: When you say “women are wonderful” effect, can you provide some examples of why, how, and what is causing that effect? You know how when men call cops about DV and cops instead believe he must be the perpetrator? I also know how when women call it’s dismissed. Low key this just feels dismissive. But yes both sides suffers from a bad system which means both sides gets dismissed when making reports, you have to look and the differences between each side not just if a side is suffering. Not only are mens reports more likely to be dismissed (not taken seriously) but in about a third of the cases when make contact th…	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/04/24 05:38 PM
2	If most younger women are dating older men, should MATURE younger men attempt to date older women? It's not everyone but enough where it's just become a general consensus. I even asked to some of my friends about it and the answers I normally got for it was "I feel like a cradle snatcher" or "idk they just aren't attractive anymore".	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/04/24 04:20 PM
19	If most younger women are dating older men, should MATURE younger men attempt to date older women? Ehh, it doesn't matter if you have the personality of an old guy or not, they still view you as a child. I know, when I was 20 the youngest age I was called was 25 but hovered around 30. Imagine the look of disgust I got when ever a woman found out I was 20. Literally it's just a brain thing.	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/04/24 04:20 AM
0	What are men allowed to complain about today? My point ------> You Great in you for focusing on literally the least important part of my comment... So il spell it out for you, most people have friends. People that don't like huge friendships circles tend to not make new friends unless they really click with them.	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/04/24 04:15 AM
1	What are men allowed to complain about today? There is too many conditions. Just looking at "can i get away with making internet content that anonymous woman can see, mock or complain about and also NOT get mocked or complained about"? The topic is "can i get away with making internet content" everything after the "that" is conditions. Some of the conditions that I don't know if are required or even what they apply to are: * Anonymous women * Can see * Mock * Complain Then just our if nowhere say and also Not and recant get mocked and compl…	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/04/24 04:13 AM
1	What are men allowed to complain about today? No I'm with op on this, this one is on you. It might help if you try using more than one sentence.	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/04/24 01:37 AM
1	What are men allowed to complain about today? Let me speak for most men here, I rant and vent here and don't say a thing in real life to friends and family because it could very easily lose me my friends and family. And my takes aren't even hot like 70% the other users. Yes people complaining get backlash, you have to take in consideration how much, how often, and the severity of the backlash. Again depending on the space, but women face wayyy less backlash and a ton more public support for their comments. Let's take for example Reddit. Red…	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/04/24 01:29 AM
1	What are men allowed to complain about today? Ehhh, most men don't want those huge friendships circles and only really want a few good friends, especially when we get older (which is where the trades are going) so making work friends isn't hard but real friends is much harder. I have found outdoors activities that require at least 2 people but generally have larger groups, are the best for making friends.	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/04/24 01:19 AM
2	What are men allowed to complain about today? The number of time, especially here, women have said any male stranger unsolicitedly talking to them for any not emergency reasons is creepy...	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/04/24 01:17 AM
3	Guys have you tried approaching women? Is it frowned upon now more than before? They like to be approached with they give you the signal to approach them. Fundamentally the same thing though. if they can't be bothered to communicate like an adult, I can't be bothered to care about their existence.	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/04/24 01:14 AM
0	Is there a hill that you would die on when it comes to standards for a relationship? Everything is a horseshoe and has a sweet spot in the center. I can understand not wanting someone to be controlling but what if they actually have a concern about you spending time with someone or doing something? It's feels like a red flag if you never take in consideration what their boundaries are.	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/04/24 12:50 AM
1	Is there a hill that you would die on when it comes to standards for a relationship? Among a few others said in this thread. They have to be able to understand their emotional/status. Feelings any particular way without notice or "just because that's how I feel" is unacceptable. I'm not going to be in charge of an adult toddler who doesn't know if they are cranky or have to go potty... A more applied aspect of this skill is knowing and managing ones own mental health. The human brain only works literally do to hormones, and a shift in them can change ones perception of the world…	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/04/24 12:47 AM
1	At what point is a man "too available" to you? Why is a man who's available to date you a negative? She gave me 'ick' expressions when I told her she was the only person I'd dated in a while. Her explanation for this was to say that 'she didn't feel special' rather she felt like 'I was dating her because I had no other options.' [...] Why would she be more into it if I had other options? See if you have options and pick her, she is the best out of those options which makes her special. If you don't have any other women your just picking the best person in a list of one. See women love to compa…	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/04/24 12:27 AM
–	Why is misogyny increasing on social media? Because I see both genders making dumb videos about their partners Said in a thread that's talking about how misogyny and misandry is running rampant online... It's very clear to me you currently lack the understanding and psychologically of putting people down in ways that don't address the problem if any. Please look up the psychologically around shaming people, what it does to the person who gets shamed and why people shame others.	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/04/24 07:26 PM
3	Why is misogyny increasing on social media? Who said anything about numbers.... I strictly remember talking about patient difficulty... Your suck a lost cause I hope your not hurting your patients because they are male...	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/04/24 07:39 AM
3	Why is misogyny increasing on social media? I said something about as related to the topic as you did, if you don't like it stop being so sex crazed and obsessed.	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/04/24 07:38 AM
8	Why is misogyny increasing on social media? Husband shaming is probably the current biggest one. Though I tends to not track that stuff, as I like being mentally well.	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/04/24 07:37 AM
3	Why is misogyny increasing on social media? Men make more for the same work no matter the occupation, case in point nursing: Are you ducking kidding me... If your going to pull facts at least do it right. Male nurses Do Note do the same work as female nurses. Male nurses are normally relegated to dangerous or physically demanding patients. You know like lifting the 500lb person, or the person that likes to try to nock people out. The reason why they make more is because of how few capable nurses there are to take on these demanding positi…	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/04/24 07:35 AM
1	Why is misogyny increasing on social media? Men may not be able to sit with their kids on an airplane or bus without their mother present. Stop color coding things and ignore the actual negative side for others... Like how would you like it if others did that to you...	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/04/24 07:30 AM
22	Why is misogyny increasing on social media? Honestly yes. Lots of forms of misandry are considered totally fine and published on multi media, which makes lots of people, mostly women, consider it "harmless" and repeat similar or worse things online. A common notice is that misandry is punching up and not sexist, when in reality both misandry and misogyny are both sexist and punching down.	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/04/24 07:26 AM
1	Why do women hold men primarily responsible for romance in marriages? Okay... I'm not sure how the rate of dishonesty has anything to do with the social perception of what gender should hold up what requirements in a relationship	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/04/24 05:35 PM
1	Why do women hold men primarily responsible for romance in marriages? You brought up your own experience and that's what we call anecdotal, not real life examples. Your experiences are not reflective of the masses. Some people are going to agree with your ex most won't. In my opinion we should either have enforcement or not. It's either his responsibility to maintain aspects of his partner and your job to maintain aspects of your partner, or no ones job to maintain aspects of their partner.	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/04/24 08:11 AM
6	Views on invisible labour or household labour Idk, dating someone that works half as hard and can't stick with a single task so it takes them 3 times as long to complete the same choices, left me to stop caring about "amount of time working". I hate chores so a try to hall ass and get them done as fast as possible, my gf hates chores and lollygags and has to take may break until they are complete, One take 1 hours the other takes 3.	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/04/24 08:06 AM
2	Why do women hold men primarily responsible for romance in marriages? That isn’t the attitude I see on Reddit. .... Are you serious trying to use arbitrary reddit subs as "the general"... I can argue just about anything because a reddit sub says it, but I don't because that doesn't make it the general. Go out and touch some grass, please do it for your self.	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/04/24 08:01 AM
2	Do women often marry men that they don't passionately love? I think the way you describe it and what your title says are two completely different things. The reason there is no romance and passion is because she doesn't find him particularly physically attractive. They marry them because she wants to be a wife and have children and her time is running out. And often eventually this leads to a dead bedroom and divorce. Ya no shit this would lead towards the relationship ending as it's like buying a ducking toaster that pops out kids. Like what would you e…	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/04/24 07:46 PM
2	“try on hauls” are just ways for women to show pornographic videos to minors on youtube. This is the same as men flashing their dicks in front of kids. These women should be on sex offender lists and thrown in jail. The irony of someone still avoiding saying anything of intelligence. I may be mentally disabled, but What excuse do you have?	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/04/24 05:42 PM
1	Why do women hold men primarily responsible for romance in marriages? That's an option yes, But more importantly I find that people kind of just shut down and don't even consider the who, what, when, where, and why, of their feelings. Like your response is almost dismissive(nothing wrong with that), but that's due to the fact that it bearly scratches the surface of understanding and dealing with ones own mentality. If we think about romance as an arbitrary feeling, something like happiness or depression, it takes on a different meaning to understand it. For exampl…	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/04/24 05:06 PM
2	Why do women hold men primarily responsible for romance in marriages? Why is men having their needs met good but women having their needs met bad? The general consensus is that that is a man's problem, not a womans problem, and that they should figure it out. So exactly why is it any different for women problems, why is it all of a suddenly something men have to deal with... Like if your going to bring up double standards, at least check to see if your benefiting from them before bringing it up...	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/04/24 04:55 PM
1	Why do women hold men primarily responsible for romance in marriages? That doesn't really answer the question, just elaborates how other are held responsible for your own needs.	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/04/24 07:35 AM
5	Why do women hold men primarily responsible for romance in marriages? That’s a really dangerous game that can lead to some horrible beliefs. I think that's why OP brought it up, as it's not really that uncommon of a thing. I find it also starts before marriage and see it most common whena relationship ends, women almost always bad mouth the guy.	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/04/24 07:33 AM
1	Woman alone in the woods with a bear, or a tall handsome stranger? Is this a plot to a Hallmark movie?	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/04/24 04:07 AM
1	Woman alone in the woods with a bear, or a tall handsome stranger? Tall, strong, attractive.	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/04/24 04:03 AM
3	Woman alone in the woods with a bear, or a tall handsome stranger? It's a man named bear and a bear named man	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/04/24 04:01 AM
–	The advantages in dating men seem to think women have really aren’t advantages for women Excuse me, who else are they going to throw the milk at /s	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/04/24 03:57 AM
2	“try on hauls” are just ways for women to show pornographic videos to minors on youtube. This is the same as men flashing their dicks in front of kids. These women should be on sex offender lists and thrown in jail. It's Gray, sorry but that's the answer, because it complicated. It's like asking what the difference is between drinking and being an alcoholic, etc. Is it those who can't function without alcohol or those who drink everyday? What about a little sip a day compared to a few pints of vodka only on the weekends? Or for a more like comparison, what about adviser's for gambling or alcohol, at what point does it stop becoming the addicts fault and change into adviser's being predatory on the addicts. …	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/04/24 03:53 AM
2	“try on hauls” are just ways for women to show pornographic videos to minors on youtube. This is the same as men flashing their dicks in front of kids. These women should be on sex offender lists and thrown in jail. or a hell of a lot of men sexualize things that aren't intended that way...? Thirst trapping is like scamming people, your really don't want to make it obvious to your targets or the bystander, but you also want to make it enough to have a pay out. Because well that's what a thirst trap is, a scam. It's booking onto the most primal instincts of men and sexuality, especially now with the growing loneliness problem. See when a man see somethats sexually appealing, he gets shots of hormones straigh…	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/04/24 03:37 AM
6	“try on hauls” are just ways for women to show pornographic videos to minors on youtube. This is the same as men flashing their dicks in front of kids. These women should be on sex offender lists and thrown in jail. I have had a number of them show up in the feed over the years. Anytime they show off a but, thigh brow, or an undressed back, is then trying to be a thirst trap. It's no different from when there is a blue collar girl working on something butt her ass is conveniently pointing at the camera for like 40% to 70% of the shot. Like I have worked on stuff before and never had my ass so perfectly framed for sooo long. I think a hell of a lot of women don't recognize a passive thirst traps when it slap…	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/04/24 06:25 AM
3	The advantages in dating men seem to think women have really aren’t advantages for women That's BS men are way more violent that women by any measure Depending are you measuring how violent men are or how often they commit domestic abuse, because those are two completely different metrics...	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/04/24 06:23 AM
4	The advantages in dating men seem to think women have really aren’t advantages for women You sure about that ? Domestic abuse rates are about 50-50, not to mention that the majority or domestic abuse isn't one sided either.	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/04/24 12:36 AM
–	Do women downplay the overwhelming advantages that the desire gap gives them? I already stated my point. A point in response to my comment or someone else's? "I'm not red pill, I just parrot their beliefs unquestioningly" has to be among the most tired responses on this sub. What beliefs have I said so far? Also I have like 3 comments going so like, definitely not the most active...	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/04/24 12:27 AM
–	Do women downplay the overwhelming advantages that the desire gap gives them? Okay, sure comparing them together we can draw different conclusions for different things. But the fact remains that men are more than willing to being with older women. (Literally the whole point to this). Hell, not that it's needed, we can even throw in the bonus fact that women are the limiting factor for being with younger men, as 30 year old women doesn't want to be with 20 year old men. ) No one was arguing that men are willing to date older women than women dating older men. We all know w…	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/04/24 12:23 AM
–	Do women downplay the overwhelming advantages that the desire gap gives them? Women cannot obtain a husband at will. ...and, what's your point, is this going to lead into something??? It's really weird you're saying like red pillers don't blather day in and ... No it's not because I haven't once talked about redpill, here, or anything that they have to say. What's really weird is how you ended up trying to change the topic to redpill and their rhetoric... For context, you used a long id words to say literally nothing on my comment.	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/04/24 12:09 AM
–	Do women downplay the overwhelming advantages that the desire gap gives them? Most women on here will disagree with you. They don't enjoy unwanted attention from men whom they are not attracted to. Take 10 extra seconds, 60 if you need them, and reread my comment. Take important note each word and what they mean, here let me help you by highlighting ones I think you missed... Don't be silly humans are social creatures and attention from someone you want attention from feels good to the soul.	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/04/24 12:06 AM
–	Do women downplay the overwhelming advantages that the desire gap gives them? Sorry on the phone the numbers didn't line up as well. It's starting at 20 not 18. (Dam those 18 years old only really willing to bag up to 7 to 8 years older than them women instead of 10...) Looking at the provide studies it shows (figure 1) that men are totally okay with women around 10 years older than them, at [20], and this gap only increase as men get older.	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/04/24 12:00 AM
–	Do women downplay the overwhelming advantages that the desire gap gives them? Don't be silly humans are social creatures and attention from someone you want attention from feels good to the soul. You act like there aren't tons of women who stay in FWB or situations because they get positive attention from someone they want attention from, even though they know that it's not for a long term future building relationship. Not to mention, how would they find their dream boat husband if he never approaches to give her attention (aka hit on her)	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/04/24 11:55 PM
–	Do women downplay the overwhelming advantages that the desire gap gives them? So I read the study and just wanted to ask you if you know what the word "older" means and how to use it properly when talking about data? Because a 40 year old is in fact older than a 37 year old. Looking at the provide studies it shows (figure 1) that men are totally okay with women around 10 years older than them, at 18, and this gap only increase as men get older. So ya, that's for literally posting a link that proves my point... Next time you should read and understand the data that you pos…	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/04/24 11:47 PM
–	Do women downplay the overwhelming advantages that the desire gap gives them? Ahh, saw gen x in the flair. Ya no shit now isn't how it used to be.	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/04/24 11:31 PM
–	Do women downplay the overwhelming advantages that the desire gap gives them? So your saying not being rejected by 99% of men from the first word isn't a benefit? I get that is hard to recognize something that you have seen and delt with your whole life. But like, women don't have to guess or encourage a man to be attracted to them, they are and approached or they aren't and didn't approach. Let's face it, y'all preach all about the easy sex isn't a benefit, but like would y'all date a guy who didn't want to have sex with you? Would you date a guy you wouldn't want to hav…	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/04/24 11:28 PM
–	Do women downplay the overwhelming advantages that the desire gap gives them? An average 35 year old man has 10 decent options and 100 bad ones. An average 35 year old woman has 10 decent options and 1000 bad ones. Where did you get these numbers from? It takes from the fact less notion that men have quality over quantity and women get quantity over quantity, when in reality both get the same quality and men just get less quality. No but seriously, where on earth did you get anything that backs up that men somehow get better quality dates more often?	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/04/24 11:15 PM
–	Do women downplay the overwhelming advantages that the desire gap gives them? Younger men are usually not into older women (yes I know some are). Don't know which Bible you took this out of but if you come outside you will see it's different.	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/04/24 11:12 PM
–	Do women downplay the overwhelming advantages that the desire gap gives them? That's the kicker. I agree and that women are sick of the attention they get from men they aren't attracted to, but don't want to lose the attention from men they are attracted to. However, I find that the reason for the attention from attractive men is the same reason they get attention from unattractive men, and losing it would result in a lose of attractive mens attention.	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/04/24 11:11 PM
–	Do women downplay the overwhelming advantages that the desire gap gives them? What STEM job are you in, due to the lack of women in stem they are 2 times more likely to be hired and 3 times more likely to get a promotion, over men who are equally qualified.	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/04/24 11:08 PM
–	Do women downplay the overwhelming advantages that the desire gap gives them? Why would you only get sex?	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/04/24 11:05 PM
–	Do women downplay the overwhelming advantages that the desire gap gives them? You'll need to explain to me how women not wanting to be raped or sexually harassed is the same as rich people being worried about someone stealing their money. Only after you explain to me how men wanting to not struggle for a drop of attention and find a romantic life long partner, is the same as men only wanting to sexuality harass and rape women?	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/04/24 11:01 PM
–	Do women downplay the overwhelming advantages that the desire gap gives them? Sound like when a rich company starts making less money and then starts bitching about how they are losing money, because they aren't making the as much profit as before.	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/04/24 10:57 PM
–	Do women downplay the overwhelming advantages that the desire gap gives them? So your going to blatantly ignore the other, let's say, 50% of men that do want to start a family....? Like your eagerness to cherry pick one of the small minorites and the roll with it like it's the majority is absurd. Fun fact, most men don't like one night stands, proven by studies.	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/04/24 10:56 PM
–	Do women downplay the overwhelming advantages that the desire gap gives them? There have been a number of papers looking at womens behavior data etc, things on old both now and in the past about ratio of likes and messages etc. Generally speaking women really only engage with up to about 10 to 20% of men, disengage with others, in a romantic setup setting. Where men will engage with up to 50% of women in the same. Ironically men actually engage more with lesser than top notch attractive women because they perceive there to be more competition. Not that your going to accep…	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/04/24 10:52 PM
–	Do women downplay the overwhelming advantages that the desire gap gives them? ... I don't think I have ever heard of a oasis finding skill. Like we still use satellites to scan the desert form them because no such skills exists.	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/04/24 10:45 PM
–	Do women downplay the overwhelming advantages that the desire gap gives them? I would actually use the analogy that women are in a lake and men are in a desert. Lakes are full of fresh drinking water, you just have to get passed all the big, germs, and fish poop in the water. Desserts in the other hand are basically void of water, and the majority that find are so salty that they are actually poisonous. /////// There is this constant rhetoric that because guys get less dates that must mean they are higher in quality, Ie quality over quantity. However this couldn't be fart…	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/04/24 10:43 PM
–	Men have to be a little entitled to women So you gonna say what those sure fire ways to not bother others are. Because like I have bothered women for literally existing in the same space as them. Here is a little hint, it really doesn't take much to both a any women.	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/04/24 08:17 AM
1	The “I’d rather be in the woods with a bear than a man” things it’s utterly ridiculous. I think your missing the point Ever seen a grizzly eat a salmon? How they snatch it and just peel the skin off without even bothering to kill it? That's the manliest thing someone can do. Like what girl wouldn't want to date a 7 to 12 ft tall man that is both wide and fluffy for warmth and extremely strong and hunts with their bare hands and teeth. If bears could use tinder, even the 6ft+ guys would be out of luck.	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/04/24 08:14 AM
-3	Women: what's the most irrational thing that gives you the ick when it comes to men? You doubting down without consideration leads me to believe that your not even considering the possibility and ignoring any reason that might lead you to a different outcome.	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/04/24 07:06 AM
2	Women: what's the most irrational thing that gives you the ick when it comes to men? This guy was standing beside the sink with the glass in his hand, and wanted me to get up and wash the glass for him. ICK. Did he actually want you to get up an wash the glass for him, or did he not feel comfortable rummaging around your stuff and things to get a glass washed? Fror Personal experience it's pretty awkward to bug (get them top what they are doing) someone over something trivial because you lack the contextual knowledge to complete the task. At the same time it feels weird AF and s…	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/04/24 08:02 PM
1	Women: what's the most irrational thing that gives you the ick when it comes to men? Sounds like y'all either need to pick better men or have way to high if standards. I have seen so much crap about how he is using weaponised incompetence because he didn't fold the towel "right", or they wanted to wait until after the game to take out the trash, etc. That at this point it's not even a real thing. Especially when considering the majority of women I know, are just as bad or worse with domestic chores than men.	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/04/24 04:50 PM
7	"Ok now swap the genders" The problem is when people refuse to acknowledge the unseen underlying principles/biases.	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/04/24 04:22 PM
3	Women: what's the most irrational thing that gives you the ick when it comes to men? I've become wildly paranoid about men thanks to domestic incompetence How many men have you experienced this with?	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/04/24 04:17 PM
10	Women: what's the most irrational thing that gives you the ick when it comes to men? I'm assuming this one is pretty common of a ick, but I think it's a fine line between okay and neurotic. I saw some of the ticky tocks where women are talking about how they feel like they have to be the mom and in charge and in control or it will all fall apart. They talked about how they Had to learn to let their partners help and take charge. It's not that their partners didn't know how or couldn't have, it's that she wouldn't let them because it had to be to her standards and she doesn't rem…	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/04/24 04:16 PM
3	What is causing gen z men to be "pill theory" obsessed? Over the past 20 to 40 years A lot of standards for everything in life have changed, yet male standards still remain relatively the same. For example most Women still want you do be successful and make more so you can afford a house and kids. Things like making 60k to 90k, which are accomplishments even today, are no longer viewed as making it but rather barely making ends meet. This is one example, but again the standards women have for men haven't really changed or have gotten harder. Where ma…	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/04/24 04:07 PM
-2	Can we put an end to the whole “Unpaid Labor” and “Emotional Labor” when it comes to women and marriage? Statistically speaking, not nearly as much. I'm also talking about SAHMs...	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/04/24 07:14 AM
-1	Can we put an end to the whole “Unpaid Labor” and “Emotional Labor” when it comes to women and marriage? From my experience almost all women need to learn to relax their control on how things are or accept it and understand that that means more effort. Car guys that vacuum and Polish their cars every week don't push that as labours chores that he has to do and the wife doesn't, no they understand that the extra expectations are extra.	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/04/24 06:18 AM
1	Can we put an end to the whole “Unpaid Labor” and “Emotional Labor” when it comes to women and marriage? I’m not told these things, trust me. From a young age are you told that your basically worthless and a blight on society unless your success and can provide. Are you told that, women (Ie the ability to find a life partner) won't take you seriously if your not successful. That if your 30 - 35 and don't own your own your home, at least half of availability women aren't going to give you a few extra seconds. Heavens forbid you still live at home past 22 (it used to be 18 but the economy has gon to …	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/04/24 04:59 AM
2	Can we put an end to the whole “Unpaid Labor” and “Emotional Labor” when it comes to women and marriage? I mean the whole "bare minimum" for women doing more work is one thing. But the wage gap has actually been debuted, by a number of institutions. Is was found that when looking at pay by the hour women make about 98% as much as men (and 2% is with the margin of error). The data that everyone loves to quote, including that one to the the government, compared all part time worker (working less than 25 hours a week) and all full time workers (working more than 24 hour a week). This means that a woma…	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/04/24 04:48 AM
0	Can we put an end to the whole “Unpaid Labor” and “Emotional Labor” when it comes to women and marriage? Uh, no, we just think that fathers should also do the BARE MINIMUM too and do half of the work so we don’t have to do 100% of it! This completely true, they just want men do do have the house work and child care. The problem is they don't want to consider outside the child care and house work. A guy working 60 to 80 hours bringing in 80% of the house hold income is still expected to do half of the child care and house work.	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/04/24 04:28 AM
1	Can we put an end to the whole “Unpaid Labor” and “Emotional Labor” when it comes to women and marriage? Emotional labor is a mix of catering to emotional needs and managing/micromanaging the household. I saw a woman in ticktock who said she needed learn to let go and let her husband help, because she felt that if she wasn't constantly on top of everything the house would fall apart. She talked about that, when she did take a step bad the house didn't fall apart, sure things went as put together as before but everything still functioned the same. Self imposed emotional labor isn't something that I …	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/04/24 04:22 AM
2	In the manosphere men aren’t being held accountable for the violence they commit. First you should learn about statistics before copy paste, especially about qualitative and quantitative data. There is a massive difference between violent and abusive, especially in the context of relationships. Because yes there are a lot more violent people out there, but that qualification includes things like crime, gang activity, drug addicts, mentally unwell people. I'm not going to kink shame, but I would also 200% a woman to "chose better" if she is going on a date with a mentally unst…	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/04/24 05:30 PM
1	In the manosphere men aren’t being held accountable for the violence they commit. even when it comes to relationships men are most likely to kill their female partners when said partners are trying to LEAVE them. The thing is your refusing to add any number to your argument. Simply saying "males are most likely to kill their female partner when they try to leave" though can be true, it doesn't outline the likelyhood of the problem just that a thing exists. To get a better picture you need to consider the facts of what is the likely hood that males attack their female partners…	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/04/24 05:24 PM
2	In the manosphere men aren’t being held accountable for the violence they commit. I brought up the incel thing to show that no matter how women react to or treat men the manosphere dudes will find a way to blame them. The point wasn’t to say that generally speaking society blames women for these men but rather to show the inconsistencies within the manosphere thinking. Again, besides the weird fridge group, no one is blaming the women for being attacked by an incel... If a man is violently abusive towards his female partner then the woman clearly “chose wrong” or it’s her fau…	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/04/24 02:29 AM
16	In the manosphere men aren’t being held accountable for the violence they commit. This post reecks of victim complex. The thing your completely missing is the fact that Two things can exist at the Same Time, just because one exists doesn't mean the other doesn't. It's like this whole notion of "teach women how to defend themselves" and the push back of "women shouldn't need to know how to defend themselves, men just need to stop attacking women". Do you know what, both of these statements are correct people shouldn't attack other people and people should know how to defend th…	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/04/24 08:50 PM
2	Re : Can someone explain why women are seen as the romantic gender ( taken down because of the wrong flair) This is such a brilliant comment but sadly it would be seen as " mysoginstic " . Only by those who can't actually see what a Hallmark movie really is.	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/04/24 09:34 PM
–	Men are still expected to be the breadwinners in an age where young women out-earn young men [Resubmitted for wrong flare] I mean, there is a massive difference between "looking for a hvm to become a sahm" and generally don't find the "connection" to any guy who isn't as or more educated and making the same or more than her, and so on etc. I have looked into this for a bit, there was a movement "where are are the good men" which was all about educated career woman who finding it hard to find single guys who are in a similar or higher position in life and still able to court them. And this wasn't a fringe group of wo…	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/04/24 09:28 PM
–	Men are still expected to be the breadwinners in an age where young women out-earn young men [Resubmitted for wrong flare] Once women are out of harms way, most Feminists won't concern themselves with improving men's QOL. Moreover, this becomes an issue for them because once women are out of harms way they no longer have a soap box to stand on so they are increasingly vilifying men so women can never be out of thw publics opinion of harms way.	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/04/24 09:11 PM
–	Are men to blame for picking on young girls or is it the other way around? I mean again your ignoring my point, and refusing to discuss it.	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/04/24 04:36 PM
3	Re : Can someone explain why women are seen as the romantic gender ( taken down because of the wrong flair) So I'm a excellent cook because I eat 4000 calories a day?	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/04/24 07:21 AM
6	Re : Can someone explain why women are seen as the romantic gender ( taken down because of the wrong flair) This is a myth and has actually been disprove.	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/04/24 07:20 AM
1	Re : Can someone explain why women are seen as the romantic gender ( taken down because of the wrong flair) The problem with this is when women are romantic, the vast majority of the time they are doing romantic things that they would consider and enjoy as romantic, not what their partner would. I would consider that not being romantic because it's missing the fundamental part of a relationship, considering their partner.	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/04/24 07:19 AM
1	Re : Can someone explain why women are seen as the romantic gender ( taken down because of the wrong flair) I would argue that women like romance better but don't agree with women being more romantic. I'm the case of romance, I would say that consuming it and providing it are pretty separate things, Kind of like the difference between making food and eating it.	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/04/24 07:15 AM
3	Re : Can someone explain why women are seen as the romantic gender ( taken down because of the wrong flair) As someone else said it women are consumers of romance not providers. Thus, like with the avid Netflix viewer, the consumer dictates that they demand. A man during dating is just the product, and his payment of being good at it is her attention for as long as he can keep it up. This is why relationship fall apart when men start asking equality. What Hallmark, retired lumber veterinarian who moved from away from his stressful well paied CEO job to the middle of no where just to sacrifice anything…	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/04/24 07:11 AM
–	Are men to blame for picking on young girls or is it the other way around? I mean, you completely ignored by point a day younger is enough to be a deal breaker for a hell of a lot of women so. The point is it starts somewhere, it's not like randomly out of nowhere women are like "oh fuck that 42 year old is so hot" and men are like "man I can't wait till midnight because then it's legal". The whole "men date younger women" I believe stems from the actual fact that women date older guys, and refuse to date younger (for the most part). As a guy, I just don't even try wit…	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/04/24 07:03 AM
0	Are men to blame for picking on young girls or is it the other way around? These women are generally after the more life experience and more resources. Like that's why they are going after these guys so they don't have to make their own from scratch. Which begs to ask the question isn't the women using the men.	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/04/24 10:36 PM
2	Are men to blame for picking on young girls or is it the other way around? I mean ya we know that. Whats being discussed is it really the men doing this or the women. Like take for example a while back I met a girl on tinder and she about 8 years younger than me. Odd but sure il bite and see if it's gonna work as peoples age doesn't reflect where in their life they are at. Turns out she wanted to be further in life so she set her minimum age as 6 years older than her and wasn't really all that interested in guys that old and wanted older. Like men get blasted for datin…	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/04/24 10:35 PM
0	Are men to blame for picking on young girls or is it the other way around? Are you for real, dating from the start, in school, started out with women dating men at least in their grade but normally a grade higher, and almost never a grade lower. Being a day younger than a woman has a non insignificant chance to just end it all for her.	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/04/24 10:29 PM
1	How bad are huble Jobs in the eyes of women? ( Ex. Garbage men) Painters are fine, I find anything to do with sanitation and it's an immediate -7	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/04/24 10:22 PM
0	How bad are huble Jobs in the eyes of women? ( Ex. Garbage men) No one said "All" men don't care what you do...	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/04/24 10:21 PM
9	How bad are huble Jobs in the eyes of women? ( Ex. Garbage men) Because woman date the idea of the man they are seeing, not the actual man. Very few people are turned on by the idea of their partner covered in trash/garbage/etc. It's all about the persona that they build around this person they are seeing, rather than the actual person, so reality isn't really considered.	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/04/24 10:14 PM
1	How bad are huble Jobs in the eyes of women? ( Ex. Garbage men) My cousin had a friend who worked in a union as a garbage man making 60k a year with full benefits. After a few years he changed jobs to be a lead sewer inspector, still in a union, and making 90+k a year. He wouldn't bring up his job for as long as possible. It was clean cut and dry, the moment he told them what he did he was ghosted.	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/04/24 10:10 PM
1	Men and women can never truly be equal because women get their rights from men. Ah see the thing is wars only happen when two sides can't reach an agreement. History has always had those two sides, when dealing with women, reach an agreement. So your "lack" of female civil was doesn't really amount to shit.	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/04/24 05:08 AM
1	The Big Difference of Aging between Men vs Women is... Sure thing there bud, keep your head in the sand because you want to be a professional victim	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/04/24 05:56 AM
1	What’s considered being single by choice? Why are you so sex obsessed that you immediately jump to masturbation and porn?	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/04/24 04:43 PM
1	The Big Difference of Aging between Men vs Women is... I don’t ask men to pay shit, thanks. You don't, but the majority or women are not okay with going 50/50. Men also can’t stand that women are increasingly financially independent. I'm sorry to give to the hotest millennial news, straight off the presses from 2001, most men don't actually care if their partner makes more than them. Largely it's women that care because being the bread winner is stressful and they don't want to work the same long ardous hours. If you look at divorce case studies, wo…	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/04/24 04:37 PM
1	The only reason why men and women aren't understanding each other is cause both of them are in different phases in dating Your right, attractive women don't have to deal with the issues attractive women have to deal with, like dealing with women. Attractive men are still expected to be successful by women.	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/04/24 04:25 PM
1	What’s considered being single by choice? The point ---> You	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/04/24 07:22 AM
1	The Big Difference of Aging between Men vs Women is... And as far as older women, I really don't think most older women care to attract younger men. Man, this just sound like a woman cutting a major or the population out and then bitching that no one loves them. Like holy hell, don't ignore the majority or the datable population and quite a few will find you attractive... Like, unless their a drama queen, you don't see vegans going to a Texas barbecue and then bitching that their is not enough vegans options. Like...	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/04/24 07:18 AM
1	The Big Difference of Aging between Men vs Women is... No, but when y'all do fuck a guy you ask him to pay for more. You don't "need to", but you still don't.	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/04/24 07:16 AM
1	The Big Difference of Aging between Men vs Women is... I think that's what I am right now, because woman look at me like I don't even exist.	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/04/24 07:15 AM
1	The Big Difference of Aging between Men vs Women is... A vagina is just a flesh pocket. You can store your change and keys in their instead of a purse.	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/04/24 07:15 AM
1	The Big Difference of Aging between Men vs Women is... also add that men can compensate I would really say it's compensation but rather a requirement. Like women can be piss poor and butt sucky with money and still find a guy. Guys on the other hand, to pull that off has to speck completely into charisma and being a dick. When something is considered part of the original equation it's not really a compensation.	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/04/24 07:13 AM
2	The Big Difference of Aging between Men vs Women is... Stay fit, don't be fat, get some sort of skin care routine. You know all the shit women need to stay pretty attractive. Yet here we are, where someone is pissed their free trial requires payment after 20 years...	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/04/24 07:10 AM
1	The Big Difference of Aging between Men vs Women is... Congratulations you get treated like a door mat. "First time" said by the vast majority of men. It's not that your getting treated worse, just you lost your privilege.	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/04/24 07:08 AM
0	The Big Difference of Aging between Men vs Women is... Ehh, they may not dress for men, but hey definitely dress for the attention as it's validating.	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/04/24 07:05 AM
1	The Big Difference of Aging between Men vs Women is... ..men are allowed to age No, men are required to age The notion that men age like fine wine garners them respect and kindness on a day to day basis. Ahaha oh fuck you need to get off your high horse, very few men age into a silver fox (what your picturing). Most men are treated as child in their years adult life, then indifferent in their middle life, and weird creepy old guy in their age. Your comparing regular women with hugh jackman and then bitching about it. If your going to compare pretty …	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/04/24 07:03 AM
1	"Autistic women are less likely to be single because they're better at masking" No, it's because gender roles expect men to be far more socially adept in dating They developed the knowledge and lost the social skills. Do you know how many women feel like any guy unsolicitedly trying to talk to them is creepy and almost harassment. Like these are growing ass women who have no idea why or how to talk to another unknown human being.	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/04/24 06:02 AM
0	Men adapt to women's needs therefore women are the problem Have you seen the fucking shit storm that caused, like the feminist groups throw the biggest fit I have ever seen about this. And it's not even like colleges were admitting more men than women. Just that they had way too many women and way too few men.	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/04/24 05:55 AM
1	The only reason why men and women aren't understanding each other is cause both of them are in different phases in dating “how to get a girlfriend” or “how to form a connection with women.” I would argue that OP worded that incorrectly as it's more along the lines of "how to not get viewed as invisible" and "how to get women to be interested in him" so he isn't relegated to "not important" in 15 seconds.	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/04/24 05:51 AM
9	The only reason why men and women aren't understanding each other is cause both of them are in different phases in dating You act like attractive women can't do that. Infact, women don't have to be the most attractive to pull this off, unlike men.	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/04/24 05:46 AM
5	The only reason why men and women aren't understanding each other is cause both of them are in different phases in dating most don't have a skill on how to attract any random woman It shouldn't be a detriment for not having this skill. Being a good healthy person with a well rounded semi interesting personality should be all someone needs to get their food in the door. Not some random skill that makes random women attracted to them.	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/04/24 05:45 AM
2	What’s considered being single by choice? I think I would have to be to a general standard, because then you have fugly bad personality people who literally no one wants lumped together with those who standards literally cannot be met Sure they are both bigger res flag than China, but they are two total different people. I would argue that when someones standards get too high, it becomes their choice. Thus at that point they are volunteeringly putting up barriers for their partner and likewise volunteeringly being single.	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/04/24 05:29 AM
1	What’s considered being single by choice? But you don't really control who or what turns you on either. People actually can, it's just the vast majority want love/attraction to be special/unique/not objectified. So no one actually goes through the time and effort to understand where and why their "attraction" come from. Then go through the even more effort to attempt to rewrite them. (It's taboo to even suggest that attractive isn't literally just hormones bouncing around in the brain) It's like, have you heard of rubber bad trick. Wher…	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/04/24 05:18 AM
1	What’s considered being single by choice? I don't think acceptable really should a a qualifier. I do, as there are the bottom 10% that are basically will to go for anything. Therefore No one would be able to say their single by choice.	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/04/24 05:13 AM
1	Dating as an autistic man Because they don't fit in/conform to regular society.	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/04/24 05:05 AM
–	Debate: the problem with the dating market is women’s standards are too high Ehhh, I would say lots of those videos ask immature women (Ie young). Though with that said you have women that are looking to graduate at 22 to 24 who say that wouldn't date a man who makes less than 60k to 100k a year, (most closer to the latter). It's this notion that the younger women have no concept of what the reality of the world is, and just expect men to be rocking it out there. And no one is telling them that they need to reevaluate what want in a person "because that sexist...".	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/04/24 06:45 AM
–	Debate: the problem with the dating market is women’s standards are too high A conversation takes two people, you can't just blame one side if they are both failing.	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/04/24 06:41 AM
–	Debate: the problem with the dating market is women’s standards are too high and it hurts men the most cause women place a much higher premium on social skills. Arguably, the lower social skills the women have the more expectations of social skills they place in the guy. Any guy who fails to meet her base line compensation expectation for social skills is automatically creepy.	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/04/24 06:38 AM
1	Dating as an autistic man They both feel like they are rejected by society and, even though they are trying, they still don't feel like they fit in. Well until they meet someone who feels the same.	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/04/24 06:34 AM
6	Dating as an autistic man I won't	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/04/24 06:33 AM
4	Dating as an autistic man Gonna be honest, this. Sure you don't have to be rich, but if your well off women will actually give you the full 2 minutes to make your pitch.	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/04/24 06:31 AM
1	Dating as an autistic man School and work is generally the places, anywhere where you and them are forced to interact with each other on a daily ish basis for an extended period of time. Though, the only women I have found that are okay to like dating autistic men are those who don't like the current status quo. They want a personality that is unconditional.	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/04/24 06:29 AM
2	Prenup recipe for disaster really good at being a scary fuck when betrayed. This is a red flag, as it means your a vindictive person. Especially when considering how the human mind works and how fragile it is. Things like depression can extremely easily make it not real things feel real.	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/04/24 08:33 PM
1	Prenup recipe for disaster If you are starting off a marriage with a prenup, you are starting it off on a distrust. Based on what? A prenup is not "when it fails" but "if it fails".	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/04/24 07:47 PM
1	Prenup recipe for disaster Depends if it's an at fault State. However, based on what Misty said, I'm assuming they are on the winning end of the divorce (aka if it ends they want their pound of flesh and a prenup gets in their way so they hate it.)	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/04/24 07:45 PM
2	Prenup recipe for disaster How do you think you would feel if you bought a own a 400k house and work your way up to 100k a year. Your partner has nothing, maybe a few grand in savings, when you get married. A few years ago by, and they get a new job that they like but it pays less (let's say 40k). You still have your job and it now pays 110k. How's hold experience are split by income ratio, and chores are 50/50. Few more years ago by, your income is now 130k and theirs is till 40k. They refuse to leave their current work …	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/04/24 07:41 PM
1	Prenup recipe for disaster People just need to be rational. A prenup is to protect people who aren't being rational. The problem is that divorce is messy and feelings get involved, I would say about half the time at least one person feels betrayed. These feelings can snowball pretty quickly, especially when ones whole life is being uprooted and changed. From what I have seen in the countless cases studies it generally amounts to someone decisions on their own for a "sacrifice" for the one they love. This "sacrifice" at th…	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/04/24 07:28 PM
–	The entire “if a girl is really into you, you’ll know and there is nothing that can dissuade her” narrative really needs to die already. This is completely false, and is misleading generations of men. That was adults, not children...	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/04/24 06:07 PM
–	The entire “if a girl is really into you, you’ll know and there is nothing that can dissuade her” narrative really needs to die already. This is completely false, and is misleading generations of men. But it sounds like you really hate women. Lololol, 😂	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/04/24 03:55 PM
3	The entire “if a girl is really into you, you’ll know and there is nothing that can dissuade her” narrative really needs to die already. This is completely false, and is misleading generations of men. Actually shy can easily present as social anxiety. I worked in education for a while and seen my fair share of actually shy people, shy isn't just "blusing". The most notable "shy girls" big noticable completely obvious play was almost always "existing in the same room as the guy".	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/04/24 01:05 AM
1	The entire “if a girl is really into you, you’ll know and there is nothing that can dissuade her” narrative really needs to die already. This is completely false, and is misleading generations of men. What about 2x or FDS, those are toxic subs what women created to vent just the same. Are you telling me those exist because men can't accept that?	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/04/24 01:02 AM
1	There are a lot more certain attractive qualities a man must have compared to a woman in order to have a healthy and fulfilling relationship. Men here also all the time tall about not settling. "Men here talk" is a really really bad metric.	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/04/24 01:01 AM
1	What’s your opinion on the 4B movement coming to America? But I promise you no woman wants to be the to be the woman you settled for. I'm sorry to let them know that, unless their your first, their not their first pick and thus settled for... I think everyone just needs to get off their high horse and check their ego at the door. Your (them) not that important and the vast majority of your (exists) means nothing the 99.99% of people on the planet, including your partner until they met your (them).	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/04/24 12:58 AM
2	The entire “if a girl is really into you, you’ll know and there is nothing that can dissuade her” narrative really needs to die already. This is completely false, and is misleading generations of men. Ahhh... I offer them good luck, because context clues aren't generally taken into account when your don't even know the person enough to understand their context.	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/04/24 12:56 AM
–	Why do women get turned off if a guy is living with parents even though they live with parents too? Come on now, remember what your kindergarten teacher taught you, you need to use your words.	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/04/24 06:57 AM
1	How do you show your interest in a guy? My point is the majority of womens go to "signal" is either glance at them so brief, that there is no way to tell if it was a passing look or not, or steer creepily at them from across the room, which is also not easily distinguishable from "come over here and il cut you". Yet the same majority+ of women don't get any of that. They don't get/understand that you can't use the same "signals" for interest and other women use or generally existing or a warning sign. To them, warning sign, interest, …	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/04/24 06:44 AM
2	The entire “if a girl is really into you, you’ll know and there is nothing that can dissuade her” narrative really needs to die already. This is completely false, and is misleading generations of men. We might blush like mad Based on just that, I wouldn't really classify that as shy. I have had a fare share of shy female friends, the shy ones are shy like borderline extreme social anxiety. Texting back, pushhh that's like a 3+ hour task. We are talking about "shy" not reserved.or just easily embarrassed.	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/04/24 06:35 AM
2	The entire “if a girl is really into you, you’ll know and there is nothing that can dissuade her” narrative really needs to die already. This is completely false, and is misleading generations of men. Soo your saying the women in these subreddit exist because guy can't accept that?	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/04/24 06:31 AM
1	There are a lot more certain attractive qualities a man must have compared to a woman in order to have a healthy and fulfilling relationship. You literally have no grounding for that argument, and just saying it to make it sound like a fact...	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/04/24 06:26 AM
3	There are a lot more certain attractive qualities a man must have compared to a woman in order to have a healthy and fulfilling relationship. This is such a a cop out and you know it. Like a quarter of the thread in the last week we're all about how women stay in shitty relationships they aren't happy with. And that's why they have to be so picky during the dating faze, they don't want to be stuck ina shitty relationship....	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/04/24 07:42 AM
6	How do you show your interest in a guy? Congratulations you found the normal womans response. /Askwomen had a thread on "how do you show interest" with the vast majority answers "give him the eyes". The obviously not obvious eyes.	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/04/24 07:39 AM
2	The entire “if a girl is really into you, you’ll know and there is nothing that can dissuade her” narrative really needs to die already. This is completely false, and is misleading generations of men. Reply to the wrong person?	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/04/24 07:36 AM
1	Why do men get so much hate from women nowadays when lesbians have the highest rates of divorce & domestic violence and their relationships don’t last? I think it's easy to see whats going on here. Hopefully to some citations on where you got those clams from. Surely you didn't just make them up...	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/04/24 07:35 AM
5	The entire “if a girl is really into you, you’ll know and there is nothing that can dissuade her” narrative really needs to die already. This is completely false, and is misleading generations of men. What does that even mean, your sounds like a political with lots of words but not actually saying anything.	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/04/24 07:34 AM
1	Why do women get turned off if a guy is living with parents even though they live with parents too? Like a roommate, y'all know you can live with the home owner right?	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/04/24 07:32 AM
1	Why do women get turned off if a guy is living with parents even though they live with parents too? at another grown adult’s house they don’t necessarily know that well? So a room mate?... But yes I am asking an adult to be able to articulate and communicate why they would feel certain feelings in a given situations.	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/04/24 04:41 PM
6	The entire “if a girl is really into you, you’ll know and there is nothing that can dissuade her” narrative really needs to die already. This is completely false, and is misleading generations of men. If a girl is really into she will make everything easy for you. I'm really surprised shy girls aren't jumping in fighting this.	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/04/24 03:53 PM
1	Why do women get turned off if a guy is living with parents even though they live with parents too? So the problem is you treat them differently in you head. Why do you need to sneak around their parents, do you sneak around your own parents?	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/04/24 03:51 PM
1	Why do women get turned off if a guy is living with parents even though they live with parents too? like I believe most grown people wouldn’t feel comfortable doing things at someone’s parent house. Why?	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/04/24 03:50 PM
3	Why do women get turned off if a guy is living with parents even though they live with parents too? I would feel so weird Why?	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/04/24 03:49 PM
1	We need to stop lumping together sexual assault and sexual harassment Approach her like she’s a human if it’s a place for that - like a bar or a dance club or on line. Ask nicely to get to know her better. If she’s interested great. If not, go away. Don’t be overly sexual, don’t touch, don’t crowd and take the no. See this just shows how clueless you are, this is what millions of women tell men to do and most men do this. Like for duck snakes stop telling non creepy normal men to stop being creepy, maybe this is why they feel like being within 5 feet of a woman is…	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/04/24 03:36 AM
4	Why do women get turned off if a guy is living with parents even though they live with parents too? I mean you can look at things in the middle of the road rather than off to one side or the other, like you know 24 or 26 and still living at home or their parent might need extra support. It's odd because I lived with my parents for a number of and never felt any less independent than living on my own. Edit: My gf just brought up that family life might have something to do with it, and it's hard to consider a upbringing that was so distance to your own. How was your upbringing, good, bad, contro…	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/04/24 03:27 AM
3	Women egocentrically define "maturity" and "responsibility" in terms of their own gender role As OP has ,kind of rudely, said Leisure time is pretty subjective and a bad metric as it's looking at a lack of time. For example my gf likes to sleep 2 hours more than me, but that also reduces her Leisure a day by 2 hours. She also multi tasks more (can't just start and finish a task) which makes her take much longer to complete the same choices as context switching and small breaks are included in this "not Leisure time usage". I don't think its would be fair to me if I all of a sudden had to…	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/04/24 01:46 AM
1	We need to stop lumping together sexual assault and sexual harassment Is this not true for everything? If I drugged and raped someone but I justify it in my head I don't feel like I did anything wrong but the women who woke up raped will feel raped. ... Are you intentionally being difficult or can't recognize the difference between someone's feelings and an actual physical event. Like it actually doesn't matter how she "feels" in that situation. If there is proof of both drugs in her body and that sexual intercourse was preformed by said guy, the state can press c…	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/04/24 01:32 AM
2	Why do women get turned off if a guy is living with parents even though they live with parents too? 2 Sadly tons of men HWhat?	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/04/24 01:29 AM
2	We need to stop lumping together sexual assault and sexual harassment Dumb people are dumb and not suddenly going to see the error in their logic. Okay, but this is a huge assumption. Do you disagree with it? Like I don't expect some who doesn't understand the "rate of change on a curve" to understand why a "tangent line" is so important. The logical argument is the same in both cases, so it would be really weird if they were to apply the logic correctly in one case and incorrectly in the same case that is differently worded. Sexual assault is very hard to prove. …	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/04/24 11:22 PM
2	Women and Males: views on dating 20% of women get plastic surgery, not have gotten it but are getting it...	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/04/24 11:11 PM
7	Why do women get turned off if a guy is living with parents even though they live with parents too? Good job trying to see the gold lining in thing, but no it's very clearly not "future housing" related problems. Women do this all the time and the problem is almost always one of the following. 1. There is no place to fucm without parents around and that give her the ick 2. She assumes he is a man child/momma's boy because is is living at home. 3. She is looking to make steps in her life, and him living at home means she can't just step right into his place.	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/04/24 11:06 PM
6	Why do women get turned off if a guy is living with parents even though they live with parents too? Where would you hang out not in public See this one a few times and I just don't get it. Like the guy said he lives with his parents not sleeps on the couch, he has a room with a functional door.	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/04/24 11:05 PM
6	Why do women get turned off if a guy is living with parents even though they live with parents too? My parents are out come over for a cheeky fuck. Idk, like y'all fuck around roommates Soo..	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/04/24 11:04 PM
1	Why do women get turned off if a guy is living with parents even though they live with parents too? You got to learn to see how they say they don't care.	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/04/24 11:01 PM
7	Why do women get turned off if a guy is living with parents even though they live with parents too? I tend to see "I ended up doing X by the time I was Y, so I wouldn't want to date someone who didn't do something similar". I'm curious, do you know where this mentality comes from? I tent to see it more from women than men (it's generally the answer I see when women are asked about dating men that make less than them).	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/04/24 10:57 PM
0	Why do women get turned off if a guy is living with parents even though they live with parents too? Good job with that bias you got there. The majority of men I know that love at home do all their own shit and then even help out with their parents shit, especially if it's just a mom. I think most women get this notion stuck in their head without any real proof, then they can't stop thinking that he is a "momma's boy". Edit: down voted because y'all don't like the idea of perfectly functional adult men living at home and not being a momma's boy. Cool?	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/04/24 10:52 PM
58	Why do women get turned off if a guy is living with parents even though they live with parents too? The two different places in life is where she is and where she wants to be. He was in the same place as her, thus not where she wanted to be so she dropped him. Just hypergamy at its core.	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/04/24 10:48 PM
3	We need to stop lumping together sexual assault and sexual harassment What is this based on? Dumb people are dumb and not suddenly going to see the error in their logic. Can you define "sexually charged?" motivation due to sexuality.	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/04/24 10:45 PM
1	Women and Males: views on dating Ya didn't answer my question...	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/04/24 10:41 PM
2	We need to stop lumping together sexual assault and sexual harassment So your saying most women would pick "never having a guy make the first move ever again" over the current status quo? I find that hard to believe due to the current amount of rumblings from women about how guys need to approach more.	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/04/24 10:36 PM
3	We need to stop lumping together sexual assault and sexual harassment I tend to agree with your anecdotal experience. I have a few females friends that really don't want anything to do with guys approaching them, but they fall into two categories "lesbian" or "extreme social anxiety". The rest of them are only kind of okay with guys not approaching them (like they don't like being approach all the time, especially if they really into something/getting something done, but they definitely don't want any guy to never approach them again). It's the yell old "double ed…	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/04/24 10:34 PM
6	We need to stop lumping together sexual assault and sexual harassment Because most forms of talking to someone without or against their consent would just be called harassment. Based on the definition of harassment, the victim just has to feel like it's sexual in nature, and harassment, for it to be sexual harassment. Most of these people that actually believe that a stranger talking to you is harassment are probably also going to believe that any kind of flirting is sexually charged, and thus sexual harassment.	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/04/24 10:26 PM
3	We need to stop lumping together sexual assault and sexual harassment When the data is proposed in misleading and ambitious ways it can skew and mislead decision on social or political matters. Its one thing for you to hear it and get an opinion, it's a different if 100k to 1m people hear about it and get an opinion, it's a complete different this if politicians hear about it and form an opinion. Misleading statistics have been used in the past to enact policy changes (the war in dugs) and convict innocent people.	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/04/24 10:22 PM
5	Women and Males: views on dating I have seen this in like 10 comments on this thread. How many women do you think actually get non medical plastic surgery? You think women do make up, clothes, skin care, diets, plastic surgery, hair, just for fun? I know for a fact that women do clothes, hair, make up, nails, etc for fun....	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/04/24 05:27 PM
3	Women and Males: views on dating The typical woman usually goes through an experience of several to many men liking her. It's understandable through their unsuccessful experiences with men to think that the "right man" is somewhere out there. They then transfer this ideology to think that every man has the "right woman" out there waiting for him, too. I will add to this. It's also reinforced by the fact that dating is largely, and expected, men courting women so the more effortlessly and organically the guy can pull this off th…	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/04/24 05:21 PM
5	Do ace men have a chance? Ehhh, as someone on the lower libido side of things, there is a lot of men who are ace or little to no libido and say absolutely nothing about it. About 30% of men suffer from some form of ED (this includes being ACE and getting hard but finding it hard to finish). It's just men with ED is treated like a plague in the community, so most men don't say anything and just go through the motions. Especially when considering how detrimental it is to turn down the sexual advances of the women your inte…	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/04/24 05:08 PM
3	I believe it is harder to find acceptance for reversed gender roles as a man. In general, average everyday women aren't complaining about men not making enough money. Complaining maybe not exactly, but every guy with an off job has been ghosted before after he said what he does. You can't tell me you don't recognize the difference between actively complaining and passively filters out, due to the same complaint.	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/04/24 07:34 AM
11	I believe it is harder to find acceptance for reversed gender roles as a man. Yes, but it only matters to women who dont earn enough to feel financially secure. I earn exactly twice as much as my bf does. And it doesnt matter to me. Because I can buy myself a house and a car. There was literally a movement where educated career woman were having issues with the amount of single educated career men who make the same or more than them. (In some cases getting mad at the men for dating "lesser" women). It's actually something I have looked into, the gist of it is generally sp…	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/04/24 07:31 AM
1	I believe it is harder to find acceptance for reversed gender roles as a man. Most people don't start something they can't see themselves staying in..	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/04/24 07:23 AM
3	Why do men get so much hate from women nowadays when lesbians have the highest rates of divorce & domestic violence and their relationships don’t last? Also my fav, not even bothering to attempt to refute the rest of it. Y'all argue in bad faith, ask questions like "Why are men the problem?" Cough cough As per what Concreteforester found, your "proof" only amounts to one small study than counts only 60 couples. This is why you should only be posting primarily source and not secondary... Please learn you cite things properly, at least to a level where you wouldn't get an F on a university paper. And then get mad at the answer lmao. So does that …	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/04/24 04:50 PM
2	Q4W: Choice between the two. A guy with three failed relationships behind, or with zero. Never experienced the spark not being there after a relationship already started. Maybe it’s semantics, but never experienced Okay, so there is a lot to unpack but we are only going to focus on this one thing. Rejecting somethings existence because you haven't ever experienced is not good. You need to work on yourself to have a more open and understand mind. Don't just write something off because you haven't been though it or something similar. You need to take a few seconds, to minutes, and if …	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/04/24 05:48 AM
7	Single women with good careers who would trade your job for a husband, why? I have no idea where this mindset comes in. The majority or career woman wouldn't "trade it all for a husband", well a regular husband. In fact it's a well known issue, especially known by men, that these women refuse to date lesser men. Hell there is even a movement about it "where are all the good guy". This movement is entirely about how there are these educated career woman who find it hard to find a male equivalent+ for romantic relationships, focusing on the fact that there is a shortage o…	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/04/24 05:41 AM
2	Q4W: Choice between the two. A guy with three failed relationships behind, or with zero. Other user: How and why did the relationships fail? OP: "The spark just isn't there." The usual. You: I’ve never heard of a relationship failing for that reason I understand it, but I just disagree. So you have heard of it then, your just nitpicking because you don't like it a thing. Losing interest in someone who you’ve been in a relationship with isn’t lack of a spark. People can change. Generally speaking relationships should have change and the participants should change to as well, together…	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/04/24 03:23 AM
2	Q4W: Choice between the two. A guy with three failed relationships behind, or with zero. People don’t get into long term exclusive relationships with no spark. And when a relationship ends, it would be bizarre to say it’s because there was no spark. I find that when relationships end, it tends to be due to compatibility. Yes, because there is a spark (generally speaking being new and novel helps a lot). Then after the honeymoon period ends, they come to their senses and realize there is nothing here. Like y'all can literally just look up the term to understand the phycological situa…	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/04/24 12:34 AM
2	Q4W: Choice between the two. A guy with three failed relationships behind, or with zero. So um, I don't know what your reading but I can't find the mention of LTR anywhere, just "relationship"... Not to mention, dating, LTR, marriage, it's all irrelevant because they all have a honeymoon period.	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/04/24 12:30 AM
6	Why do men get so much hate from women nowadays when lesbians have the highest rates of divorce & domestic violence and their relationships don’t last? What about the fact that it's not for equality anymore?	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/04/24 12:28 AM
3	Q4W: Choice between the two. A guy with three failed relationships behind, or with zero. Oh this is so common when the honeymoon period of the relationship ends.	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/04/24 10:52 PM
13	Why do men get so much hate from women nowadays when lesbians have the highest rates of divorce & domestic violence and their relationships don’t last? if you had unlimited east access to sex, orgies, blowjobs etc with various women at the drop of a hat, would you ever commit to one? ...As a guy, this sounds like fun for about a month or for a week every so often, the rest of the time sound like it would be exhausting. but I'm pretty sure gay guys don't want to be running around town fucking all sorts of women. Like it just really doesn't sound like their ball park. However, let's address your sex obsessed nature. Most guys would love to play a…	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/04/24 10:42 PM
23	Why do men get so much hate from women nowadays when lesbians have the highest rates of divorce & domestic violence and their relationships don’t last? Rarely is a strong claim for a group of people trying to live their life. I have little to no metrics on gay men going into relationships, except my gay friend who find it easier to date and have relationship than regular guys. Like given the opportunity of going into a healthy relationship how many guy men do you think would?	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/04/24 10:29 PM
4	Why do men get so much hate from women nowadays when lesbians have the highest rates of divorce & domestic violence and their relationships don’t last? Men are more likely to leave women dying of a terminal disease. You got source for claim? Last time I checked the paper who bad this claim was debuted and redacted by the scientific community and the researchers who wrote the paper. Their data ended up being junk, because they made the assumption of anyone who stopped responding to the survey ended up breaking up. For obvious reasons this would heavily skewe the data for men leaving.	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/04/24 10:27 PM
6	Why do men get so much hate from women nowadays when lesbians have the highest rates of divorce & domestic violence and their relationships don’t last? There actually spewing "facts" from a different study that was debuted because the study it self was flawed. And by debunked, I mean by the scientific community along with the researchers who wrote the paper. They assumed that anyone who stopped responding to the survey broke up, which for obvious reasons is wrong on so many levels.	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/04/24 10:24 PM
27	Why do men get so much hate from women nowadays when lesbians have the highest rates of divorce & domestic violence and their relationships don’t last? Ah yes, cherry pick one thing out of all of the issue that are pushed by feminism.... Please actually try to act like a proper person.	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/04/24 10:20 PM
4	I am tired of the rhetoric that "the friendzone" "isn't real" and the lack of acknowledgment that both sexes can be toxic in that scenario It isn't considered real because the man puts himself in this position So if I, a man, put myself into the hospital, does than mean it's not real? Does that mean politicians, don't have any power? I find it a logical leap to dismiss a position because themselves put them in it. Assuming every case of the friendzone is because the guy put himself their, he it still putting himself in a zone. This who put them there should be completely irrelevant because we are only looking at "where" in the who,…	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/04/24 06:22 AM
5	I am tired of the rhetoric that "the friendzone" "isn't real" and the lack of acknowledgment that both sexes can be toxic in that scenario if they really like the person then asking for a cooling off period and then retaining that friendship is possible and desirable. I think the biggest issue is the fact that they don’t want to be friends anymore after. I don't see how having a cooling off period once a month is the going to help. Like this isn't a once and done, no more feeling kind of thing. They obviously developed feelings naturally through experience, likewise those feelings are probably going to come back after the "cooling …	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/04/24 06:07 AM
2	People used to openly acknowledge that women liked assholes until Blue Pillers fabricated this whole narrative, making it a taboo subject and trying to shame people for it Ya your "gotcha" doesn't really work when you consider what level each side considers unattractive...	/r/PurplePillDebate	31/03/24 02:56 AM
1	How come so many guys do not want to go to clubs to get women, even though that is the easiest option? Not to mention, clubbing isn't mutually exclusive to old. Lots of women now go to clubs are bars get drunk with friends or have a good time rather than be open to meeting guys. It's not that uncommon for these girls to passively (not actually invite them but just tell them what club she was planning on going to) a few of their matches so they might show up.	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/03/24 10:59 PM
1	Being slightly neurodivergent is more of a dealbreaker for most women than being a complete scumbag It's funny, you'd think ND men would be more at home on the internet, as for the past 50 years or so that's where many of us have gravitated to in order to find our tribe when the real world doesn't provide it. If you actually read my comment, I highlight Everyone being in the Internet not just ND.	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/03/24 10:55 PM
2	People used to openly acknowledge that women liked assholes until Blue Pillers fabricated this whole narrative, making it a taboo subject and trying to shame people for it An ass doesn't nessasealy man a bad person. Though I applaud your effort to try to change the argument so your not wrong. The fact of the matter is cocky is a negative trait that is part of being an ass.	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/03/24 10:53 PM
3	People used to openly acknowledge that women liked assholes until Blue Pillers fabricated this whole narrative, making it a taboo subject and trying to shame people for it Ya the vast majority of women don't even want to humor a guy if they don't find them at least a little bit immediate attraction. That's why we are seeing a surge in women refusing because of the "spark", "vibes", and "chemistry". Largely sexual attraction is a huge factor in attraction, and my opinion is most women don't actually understand what leads to their attraction, which is why women's advice on dating and how to impress women is always so bad. They provide advice that they think they lik…	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/03/24 10:46 PM
1	Women are not the reason dating has become shit It is pretty interesting that your injecting your ideals into other people's comments, I recommend you get someone to help you that problem. I, on the other hand, I never said anything about any sex or gender.	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/03/24 09:02 PM
2	People used to openly acknowledge that women liked assholes until Blue Pillers fabricated this whole narrative, making it a taboo subject and trying to shame people for it Yes that's literally how it works, either "someone" finds them attractive or there is a separate offer available. Are you saying you would date someone you don't find attractive?	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/03/24 09:00 PM
3	People used to openly acknowledge that women liked assholes until Blue Pillers fabricated this whole narrative, making it a taboo subject and trying to shame people for it Cocky is not being an asshole, though. It’s just being confident. Ehhh. I can't think of a single cocky guy that wasn't an ass. Just Google the definition of cocky; "adjective. Someone who is cocky is so confident and sure of their abilities that they annoy other people." So um ya, Cocky is a bad trait.	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/03/24 08:54 PM
5	People used to openly acknowledge that women liked assholes until Blue Pillers fabricated this whole narrative, making it a taboo subject and trying to shame people for it You can't keep a relationship, if you don't have one... If no one finds you attractive enough to give you 5 minutes to get to know your personality, let alone have a relationship... Ultimately in the grand scheme of things personality matters more. But in the application of things attraction is the only way your going to get someone long enough for your personality to matter. The vast majority of men by a long shot, fall short and don't even get to the part where the personality matters.	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/03/24 08:50 PM
6	Everything you use is invented and built by men is a faulty argument. Stop using it It's supposed to be bullshit and a massive cop out, it's used in response to people arguing in bad faith or just plainly ignoring what you say...	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/03/24 08:44 PM
2	Women are not the reason dating has become shit Women's standards (prices if you will) are directly linked to male demand. Their not though, that's why there is an abundance of single career woman... It's actually linked to lifestyle. This is why women don't date down comes from, women don't want to change their lifestyle for the lesser. When the modernization and women out stripping men in education and wages, for women to date most men would require those women to then support the difference between the two (aka take a lifestyle hit). This …	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/03/24 07:30 PM
2	Women are not the reason dating has become shit This is a bad example because your trying to make a simple point in a complex topic. First People don't stop buying them but they're appaled by NVIDIAS price policy? Yes they do. This is literally how economics works, you increase price to reduce demand... If people want to stop NVIDIA pricing their GPUs the way they do (up), then they simply need to stop buying. Yes, reducing demand would probably help drive down the price. The current problem with you example is it's not people driving up the …	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/03/24 06:57 PM
8	Being slightly neurodivergent is more of a dealbreaker for most women than being a complete scumbag Boy you'd think that if having any mental health problems made it impossible to fuck, 95% of all forms of mental illness would've died off within a single century. Before the Internet and clout dating, ya being ND was a minor inconvenience. However now with everyone social skills being absolute zero, no it's a death sentence. The problem falls in the fact that women don't reward the charisma, or good social skills to get a guy, and therefore lots of them really never learn better social skills. …	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/03/24 06:51 PM
1	Women are not the reason dating has become shit It's not pedophiles that are the problem it's the children that listen to the pedophiles, maybe if those children grew up and stopped being so gullible things would improve for them... Really now, are you actually trying to shove this shit into people's mouths and telling them it's candy...	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/03/24 06:43 PM
1	For men, being able to shrug at rejection is paramount in dating If only 1 in 1000 people is interested in you, that's a very low rate. Arguably it's just a low rate not very low. Average guys get like 3 matches a month. You can easily go through 100 to 250 swipes per day in only about 30 minutes to an hour, and thats taking some time to actually look at the profile.	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/03/24 06:52 AM
22	Do you think this audience reaction is representative to how society sees domestic violence against men? It only holds true ish because woman are assumed to be the victims and men are assumed to be the predators. When guys know this, they don't do anything back because under good cases they play out like the other guy had. But if a guy does even one thing with evidence, even under the pretenses of self defense, they will get the book thrown at them. Because guys can't do anything back in any situation, it's not an uncommon situation. My Gf's brother ended up getting arrested because he called the c…	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/03/24 06:05 AM
1	For men, being able to shrug at rejection is paramount in dating Unfortunately OLD is the single largest way couples meet each other now, so we shouldn't be refusing the accept it's experience because "it's a steaming pile of garbage". I'm fact, due to its prevalence, we should be calling that garbage out more often.	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/03/24 01:35 AM
1	For men, being able to shrug at rejection is paramount in dating Unfortunately those odds don't hold up in real life.	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/03/24 01:31 AM
1	For men, being able to shrug at rejection is paramount in dating Someone correct me if I'm wrong but aren't we encouraging men to open up ? You new to experiencing the male side of things/dealing with women?. When women say something there is always an implied silent part. For example; When women say "I find nice guys attractive", what she really means is "it makes me more attracted to the guy I'm already attracted to when he is nice, and doesn't do anything else for anyone else". So let's take a lot at the whole "but aren't we encouraging men to open up?". W…	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/03/24 01:28 AM
1	For men, being able to shrug at rejection is paramount in dating It's not enough information for them to see you as a real person, just an NPC, so they auto complete the rest with what ever else they want to. Generally speaking their minds paint you as a not great person so they don't have to care. In short, they are rejecting their own imaginary image of you, rather than you.	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/03/24 01:23 AM
1	For men, being able to shrug at rejection is paramount in dating Tldr: They aren't rejecting you because you as a person isn't good enough for them, but rather they are rejecting you because you as a person isn't even worth their time to see you as a person and not an NPC... Jokes aside, ya no dating is B's and it's nothing about you as a person but rather how you sell yourself as a potential partner. Though it still feels extremely personal because there just imaging what your personality is and the rejecting you based an imaginary you. Feels kind of like a …	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/03/24 01:17 AM
1	For men, being able to shrug at rejection is paramount in dating Not matching with someone is not a rejection. With this statement alone, I expect you to also stand up against woman that say "a man not asking her out, is him rejecting her".	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/03/24 01:13 AM
1	For men, being able to shrug at rejection is paramount in dating Looks have a multiplication bonus to someone's rizz.	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/03/24 01:10 AM
1	For men, being able to shrug at rejection is paramount in dating You know the smart ones just used auto swiper, including all the popular guys as well.	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/03/24 01:08 AM
1	For men, being able to shrug at rejection is paramount in dating It's tinder, so no it's going through 10,000 to find the few women who would even talk to you...	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/03/24 01:07 AM
1	For men, being able to shrug at rejection is paramount in dating Ya that was my take, even a 10% or 5% success rate sounds pretty sweet. I don't actually think most women understand how abysmally small mens chance at not getting rejected is (it's definitely less than a 1%)	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/03/24 01:07 AM
1	For men, being able to shrug at rejection is paramount in dating Yaaa this has always stricken me as super weird and kind of objectifying. Like it even exists from the start of dating where women want the "random" guy to dot on her, and treat her like he is in love, even before the first date. One of the primary reasons why women largely don't like, and reject men, for a "coffee date and walk" (coffee date is a type of date, and doesn't require coffee) is because it's "low effort" and doesn't show that he is invested in her.... Like my thinking is, "No Duckin…	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/03/24 01:00 AM
2	Why do so many women insist that the bar is so low? Lolol, you clearly don't understand that your wouldn't clear the bad. Walking up and saying "hello" only works if you attractive. sorry, i'm not trying to bag stacey? Who said anything about Stacy, we are talking about average girls. The vast majority, by a huge freaking margin, will just rebuff you. Ya sure, your right she isn't interested in dating you probably because she doesn't know who you are, likewise she also doesn't give a shit because you just said hello and didn't make an impression.…	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/03/24 09:41 PM
1	Why do so many women insist that the bar is so low? This comment was made in reply to "women have to be initially picky because if they catch feels, they can't abort." And my reply was people, including women, should "learn to understand their feelings so they don't catchs feelings or every asshole and their dog"... But I'm not sure wherever or not you got that. If someone actually understands their feelings, the requirements should go up and plateau as the relationship progresses, not start at max and decrease to zero over time...	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/03/24 07:39 PM
2	Why do so many women insist that the bar is so low? If I feel it you can't do anything wrong. If I don't feel it you can't do anything to fix it. Honestly this sounds really unhealthy.	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/03/24 04:40 PM
2	Why do so many women insist that the bar is so low? I have never actually lost attraction, if it wasn't there I just never found it in the first place. The way you worded this makes it feel like your trying to skert some undefined rule. But regardless, your agreeing with me right? Especially since you have never lost attractive, that means that if someone does lose attractive it's because "they just weren't into you" bs crap...	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/03/24 07:34 AM
2	Why do so many women insist that the bar is so low? Tldr: you don't actually know what you find attractive so any loss of attraction is due to the "obvious" that you weren't attracted in the first place...	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/03/24 07:16 AM
1	Why do so many women insist that the bar is so low? The "small thing" you're referring to isn't actually small. It's a red flag for incompatibilities. Ya, so you know that bs, stop acting like women don't even know what's going on and all this just come from men... Like even askwomen has had a thread on this and how many women ended things over the most trivial of shit like "his taste in music" or "his favorite color"... it wasn't a small thread either, so I don't know who your trying to convince rather than yourself.	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/03/24 07:12 AM
3	Why do so many women insist that the bar is so low? Haha you’re doing that playground thing, “teacher!!! She made a face at me!!!” You know full well that you made that face first and yet you still tattled. I don't remember tattling to anyone so I really have no idea what your going on about. Anything to avoid engaging in the actual conversation huh? When your opening statement is objectively men (or women) to what they used to be able to provide and how now women are able to achieve the same so men have little to no value and completely ignoring…	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/03/24 07:10 AM
5	Why do so many women insist that the bar is so low? Ah yes, so your just sexist and like to objectify other's... ... Cool, cool.. cool...	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/03/24 05:31 AM
3	Why do so many women insist that the bar is so low? I highly doubt that. This read like those YouTube interviews where a woman is asked what she would do to pick up girls, if she were a guy, and the answer normally being shit like "I would walk up and introduce myself with a hi".... Or all of the "women trys male tinder m" videos, where the girl finds out OLD as a guy suck so hard and they have absolutely no game at all. To court a woman, you can't just think you can clear the bad because you need game. That's why women constantly use the phrase …	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/03/24 05:16 AM
4	Why do so many women insist that the bar is so low? It's a problem with their vetting process, and they hate it even more when you tell them that "just adding requirements doesn't work".	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/03/24 05:09 AM
2	Why do so many women insist that the bar is so low? I bet you your someone who needs a burning spark.	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/03/24 05:08 AM
4	Why do so many women insist that the bar is so low? Most women dont dump men over a slip up. Dump, no. Ghost yes. We are talking about the early stages of dating (Ie largely before and up to the second date). Women do be dropping guys like flies if they don't match up, it's a pretty overly common thing. Especially when you consider she only got time and energy to like 5 guys at a time and has a back log of matches. If she does that then she wasnt into you to begin with. This is such a a cop out and largely ignores some of the larger issues that m…	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/03/24 05:07 AM
4	Why do so many women insist that the bar is so low? Ya but wouldn't that mean the bar isn't on the floor because they require more? Ultimately OPs question was on why women complain the bar is so low when it obviously isn't.	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/03/24 05:00 AM
2	Why do so many women insist that the bar is so low? Gotta be picky before you get attached Or you just spend some time to understand ones own feelings so they don't get rose colored glasses and or trap themselves... Like I get it, but like I feel like this is men paying for women not being able to adult. Like if you all knew a guy who kept getting into relationships because he was "in love" and then it ending badly for him, y'all wouldn't be telling him it's okay and instead y'all probably be telling he's a dumb fuck that needs to stop falling in…	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/03/24 04:56 AM
2	Why do so many women insist that the bar is so low? If you approach someone I would guess is because you like them Or the more realistically they could actuality, and probably are more likely to be, curious, interested, or like the abysmally small amount they they have seen so far. I have seen this so often that women want men to dot and expend effort like the guy is romanticly involved with her from square one, never letting themselves considered that they guy has no ducking clue who she is (personality)...	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/03/24 04:51 AM
1	If men go away women would not look back Depends. If all men just got up and stopped, oh fuck would their be chaos. I don't think women largely understand how much passive positive (for them) attention they get by men. Like lost of men, are nice people, but the vast majority do extra things because your a woman regardless if he is trying to court you or not. I would say about 60% of what men do as extra the vast majority of women are completely unaware or and just think "that's how things are". So the stages that would happen are: 1. W…	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/03/24 11:56 PM
1	Men may have lesser options than women in the dating scene, but it is still a man’s world in all other areas. "Some people" is between 2 to 10000000000000, so it isn't saying very much. Like check it a faculty correct statement, some people would love to be eaten alive by their worst enemy.	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/03/24 06:27 AM
1	Men may have lesser options than women in the dating scene, but it is still a man’s world in all other areas. I have no idea how this pertains to this, but okay sure you do you, I guess... Outside the shelter of a first world culture things are different. Migrant women travel in groups because otherwise they and their children are easy targets to be raped and trafficked. There are a lot of places in the world I would not travel to without a man as a deterrent.	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/03/24 10:48 PM
2	Men may have lesser options than women in the dating scene, but it is still a man’s world in all other areas. If you remember correctly? Remember what? All of human history where women weren’t allowed to even vote for MOST of it? Well I wouldn't say "all" of human history, But past humans did write down what they did and why in strange devices, you can read, called "history books"... Some people even take those inscriptions and transfer them to the new worlds media of motion picture and then share it on a web...	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/03/24 10:43 PM
17	Men may have lesser options than women in the dating scene, but it is still a man’s world in all other areas. So I have read enough comments here and there is a funny trend. The comment around women not succeeding generally blame men and how it's a man's world. However, when ever someone challenges this and points out the "mans" experience is shit, and way way worse than they think, the commenters response is to blame men for creating a system thats had for men. It's clearly to me, that these people are dilutional and don't actually care. They want the male experience to be greener than their experience…	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/03/24 02:03 PM
5	Men may have lesser options than women in the dating scene, but it is still a man’s world in all other areas. If I remember correctly it was actually women who fought for all the structures to be in place... So are you telling me it's mens fault for listening to women? Should be stop listening to women to make things more equal? Be careful of what you wish for...	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/03/24 01:58 PM
7	Men may have lesser options than women in the dating scene, but it is still a man’s world in all other areas. We talking about the west here not gaza, like...	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/03/24 01:56 PM
4	Men may have lesser options than women in the dating scene, but it is still a man’s world in all other areas. Because third wave feminism is not about equality it's about female supremacy. There is a video I found of a 80 some year old second wave feminism who watches some modern mainstream feminist videos and just gets so angry and sad about how they twisted the thing she fought so hard for.	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/03/24 01:55 PM
3	Men may have lesser options than women in the dating scene, but it is still a man’s world in all other areas. My guy asked you a question... You going to answer or are you just wrong?	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/03/24 01:52 PM
6	Men may have lesser options than women in the dating scene, but it is still a man’s world in all other areas. Oh piss off your your hot load of bull, women literally work in government and make rules, these rules. Australia for example had a gender inclusivity board which was grilled because it was 6 white women who ran events that constantly excluded men and refused to let a man sit in the bord. Stop actually like women can't, and aren't, just as bad as men when given power...	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/03/24 01:50 PM
6	Men may have lesser options than women in the dating scene, but it is still a man’s world in all other areas. Within the household, men are considered the head and public face of the family, and women do not have authority over the men ( Publicly facing sure, but my guy gave you met a modern day family. Everything has to be wife approved, like everything. Men don't run the house like they did 100 years ago, men bearly get a say in the how now.	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/03/24 01:46 PM
15	Men may have lesser options than women in the dating scene, but it is still a man’s world in all other areas. The problem is be because men have to either claw and fight their way to success or die trying, there are more successful men than women. Women see this and just think "oh men have it easier than women or they wouldn't be as many successful men". The fact that their life experience are sho sheltered that it makes more sense to them to believe "men just have a massive leg up in life over women" over the truth that "a man's life is a boody slog/grind filled with pitfalls that make you not good eno…	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/03/24 01:44 PM
2	I noticed something interesting. At least to me. I've noticed many subreddits pertaining to cheating consist of women mostly. Oh you silly goose. Though still not representative of the real world, oh yes it is much better...	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/03/24 01:28 PM
4	Do alpha males ever regret not settling down when they get old? Only a few are horny and pervy enough to continue wanting women into the old age. Most men eventually get tired of the chase and want to relax. You forget that this type of guy end up not chasing and being chased for most of their adult life. I know a few of these kinds of guys, where they just never hit on a girl unless she is hitting on him. They seem to have no shortage of pussy.	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/03/24 01:22 PM
2	What’s your opinion on the 4B movement coming to America? Literally told my gf and she laughed, then I told her how butt hurt you were that you missed the joke and she laughed even harder. It is a little sadining that you being but hurt is funny than my joke though.	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/03/24 03:55 AM
1	Do men and women have realistic standards for each other? You’re absolutely clueless and make no sense. Whey absorbs and digests very fast. It goes through the digestive system in about 1.5 to 2 hours, without external factors. This is just the speed of the bodies natural poop process, eating fiber can slow it down. 20 to 26 grams of whey protein is about what the body can absorb in this time. The absorption rate is something different, as the rate one absorbes protein is dependent on how much protein is currently free in the body, higher body values e…	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/03/24 07:54 PM
1	Do men and women have realistic standards for each other? A bodybuilder will take 25g of whey after a workout during the anabolic window. ... Your funny did you know that? Like I didn't know you talk to the majority of bodybuilders out their and get to present their way of life as fact... I know your young and feel like you know, but you really need to take a second to stop and smell the air. Like do you really think body builders have just one protein shake per day, and it has to be after their workout? Bodybuilders will have at least two and a lot ha…	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/03/24 02:57 PM
1	What’s your opinion on the 4B movement coming to America? Your inverse argument makes literally zero sense to me. The reason why settling make sense in terms of building a skill is they are put in a position where they don't get to have it all/everything, so they have to analyze each thing and decide if they want in and by how much. Childhood is when this skills develops the most especially when you get options so only have one (toy, food for dinner, activity, games to play). What your suggesting is the lack of choice builds a skill for them to be able…	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/03/24 12:51 PM
1	Do men and women have realistic standards for each other? Most body builders are eating protein powder as there protein. I'm also talking about powerlifting bodybuilders, not greesed up tanned guys.	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/03/24 12:45 PM
1	Do men and women have realistic standards for each other? Make more yes, but this is who works more.	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/03/24 12:43 PM
2	What’s your opinion on the 4B movement coming to America? What feminists say is MGTOW doesn't mean it's actually MGTOW... It really sounds like you want MGTOW to be bad, to me.	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/03/24 02:28 AM
0	What’s your opinion on the 4B movement coming to America? Because "men going their own way" aka trying to not interact with women is misogynist... Sure thing this pops	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/03/24 11:10 PM
0	What’s your opinion on the 4B movement coming to America? It's only not funny to you because you missed the obvious... And came at it with hostility...	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/03/24 10:55 PM
2	What’s your opinion on the 4B movement coming to America? The thing is, y'all lot confuse every male group every which way its quite frankly not worth the effort to explain the difference or even call out fridge groups that aren't even part the the larger movement. So I will leave you with this peace of advice, there are bad shit insane people that need proof help if not some stronger everywhere, just because one of these people behaves in a certain way doesn't mean everyone else with the same/similar/or adjacent name behaves the same.	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/03/24 10:54 PM
0	What’s your opinion on the 4B movement coming to America? I mean… I don’t see a lot of women calling for the systemic rape of men who don’t want them. I mean... That's a hell of a leap from "I haven't seen people hear call them misandrist" to "do guy get death threats from women"... but um hey you do you, though I would recommend professional help.	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/03/24 10:52 PM
-1	What’s your opinion on the 4B movement coming to America? Thanks, I wish you the best of luck in the future, especially with your skills in understanding what a joke is.	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/03/24 09:57 PM
3	What’s your opinion on the 4B movement coming to America? It certainly seems that men are bashing this iteration of WGTOW and calling it misandrist based on the responses here. I read through about have the replies and haven't seen a single person call it misandrist, just "dumb".	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/03/24 09:56 PM
0	What’s your opinion on the 4B movement coming to America? Ya, but in the west women have way to much privilege in the dating world to go their own way because that would require them giving up their huge benefits they have. However in other cultures where women didn't get their gender and sexual freedom, I can see them having a much less to no extra privilege so it could work their.	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/03/24 09:52 PM
4	What’s your opinion on the 4B movement coming to America? Na, MGTOW is literally men who didn't want to deal with all the pressure and expectations they have from women on them as men. It's feminist who bashed and created propaganda for MGTOW to make it look bad.	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/03/24 09:49 PM
2	What’s your opinion on the 4B movement coming to America? I think settling for almost everything in life is a necessary part of reality. Why is it all of a sudden a bad thing with a partner/relationship is involved. I would argue that learning to settle helps one develop critical thinking skills that help people understand what is actually important to them, out of many things, and teaches them how to prioritize these things that are important.	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/03/24 09:47 PM
2	What’s your opinion on the 4B movement coming to America? Expecting your partner’s body to never change, their health to never change, their mobility to never change, their sex drive to never change, their stress response to never change, the amount of stress they’re under to never change- it’s almost guaranteed to be disappointing when they do. That's called a sex doll hooked up to a local chatGPT. Which is much more affordable that one would have even thought.	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/03/24 09:43 PM
1	What’s your opinion on the 4B movement coming to America? Ultimately it's the result the same just with reversed sexs? Like if men were actually appreciated then MGTOW would literally be men holding them selfs hostage until the situation improves. Unfortunately men can't really stop working so holding their valuable labor hostage doesn't really work for them. However, considering if what you said is true, it's it an oxymoronic movement then. Like their whole game is to stop being treated as lesser than man (a peace for the home to make and take care of…	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/03/24 09:39 PM
10	What’s your opinion on the 4B movement coming to America? Lolololol. Oh shit ya this is just feminist MGTOW. I doubt feminists are going to bash the shit out of it and call these people misandrist and incels though.	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/03/24 09:33 PM
2	Do men and women have realistic standards for each other? I just wish guys would be honest about that instead of pretending this is related to health. Correlation doesn't equal causation. Just because almost everyone on the planet like to pick more attractive people over less attractive people, doesn't and shouldn't discount the fact that lots of people want a healthy partner. I personally like thinner girls, with a bit of muscle on their bones. But I wouldn't have much long term attraction to a woman who is thin but extremely unhealthy. I think it's u…	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/03/24 09:25 PM
1	Why do women on dating apps ask what men do for work? No one gives a shit if Jeremy is making $70thousand as an accountant. That isn’t enough money to worry about. Oh you silly goose, yes people care about Jeremy making 70k and works as an accountant. That's why "doctors" and "lawyer" are so sot after. It's not just the money (and no we don't mean being rich) and opertunity to make money but also the status of the job it self. Being able to brag that your dating a doctor or lawyer is one thing, but not wanting to bring up your partners job because …	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/03/24 05:50 PM
1	Why do women on dating apps ask what men do for work? We are talking about old so like the first 10 to 30 messages and before the first date... Not tens of hours into a relationship	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/03/24 03:35 PM
1	Do men feel less guilty about dating autistic people compared to women? Drop it like it's hot.	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/03/24 03:34 PM
1	Do men feel less guilty about dating autistic people compared to women? Women care more about social skills and charisma over how hot a guy is, assuming he is hot enough. Being an autistic male is like being an ugly woman.	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/03/24 03:31 PM
1	Why do women on dating apps ask what men do for work? Most men also ask one another what they do for a living. That different because most men try to continue the conversation about the job, most women don't. It's only a conversation starter if it starts a conversation, otherwise it's just an interview...	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/03/24 03:26 PM
1	Why do women on dating apps ask what men do for work? The paranoia about a universal conversation starter is bizarre. Sound like your trying to fight what I'm saying than listening. It's not paranoid when the vast majority of the time it's asked it never goes into a conversation about or adjacent to the answer. It's a interview question they occurs. Yes its a basic conversation starter, but only if it's part of the conversation and continues it, which isn't most mens experience.	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/03/24 03:21 PM
3	Men are seen as more creepy doing the same actions as women. Let's debate You missed the part where guys typically don't care. Ahh but most guys actually do care, it's just they can't/don't say anything about it because their aren't allowed too, just like women 20 to 40 years ago. So once again we have arrived at the same location...	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/03/24 03:12 PM
1	Why do women on dating apps ask what men do for work? the problem is asking in as a starter, Ie on old less than 30 messages, is largely used as a filter than a conversation starter.	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/03/24 03:10 PM
0	Why do women on dating apps ask what men do for work? True but we are generally talking about the first few conversations, not a even short relationship.	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/03/24 03:07 PM
1	Why do women on dating apps ask what men do for work? I have found it rarely continues into a conversation about my job or things adjacent around it and is massively more of a question about my, as a man, status/income. Just ask all the union Janitors that get ask this question on how well their Old dating life is going... If it's something someone is interested in they can wait till at least the first date before diving into it.	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/03/24 03:04 PM
-1	Do men and women have realistic standards for each other? Again, reading comprehension is key. I literally said not a mansion. Your right reading is key, so did I say "mansion" at all anywhere??? Try taking your own advice from time to time.	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/03/24 03:00 PM
3	Men are seen as more creepy doing the same actions as women. Let's debate At no point did I say "therefore men should just go ahead and harass them". No one said you did. What I did was point out the hypocrisy in your comment/beliefs. Aka, it's okay for women to do it because they can easily be made to go away. But does that mean it's okay for men to it if "they can be made to easily go away"... No SA or harassment is or should be okay, stop trying to fool yourself...	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/03/24 02:58 PM
-1	Do men and women have realistic standards for each other? Is your whole stick that, they (you) don't want the poor or middle class life? Your throwing people under the buss because they can't provide a wealthy enough lifestyle for you to be satisfied? If so why didn't you just say so instead of all the bush beating?	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/03/24 02:55 PM
1	Do men and women have realistic standards for each other? I still think most guys will 100% choose the slim girl with lower cardiovascular fitness than a heavier girl with higher cardiovascular fitness. I wouldn't say 100% because there are actually a number of guys who like bigger girls, but generally speaking yes most people like thinner not overweight partners. Just like I would say the vast majority of women would rather pick a handsome guy over an average or ugly guy, given all other things remain the same.	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/03/24 02:53 PM
1	Romcoms movies/tv series are toxic by default. Hallmark movies key demographics are women 65 and older. Where did you get that number from?? Because this is strate from the source "The Hallmark Channel's target audience is women between ages 18 to 34"	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/03/24 02:51 PM
3	Men are seen as more creepy doing the same actions as women. Let's debate You comment implies that it's not a problem because it's easy to make women go away.	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/03/24 02:50 PM
0	Do men and women have realistic standards for each other? But how does that have anything to do with a 1 bedroom etc...	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/03/24 02:48 PM
1	Romcoms movies/tv series are toxic by default. Rom coms sure but tell that to all the hopeless romantic women out there that want the same experience as Hallmark movies...	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/03/24 01:40 PM
1	do you all believe that the common English idiomatic expression "settle down" means "settle for"? Just because is Jimmy's so many peoples bridges. Settle is literally in the definition of Compromise, so if one were to Compromise they would be settling. Y'all just hate the world Settle because Compromising makes it feel like your "trading" someone instead not straight up losing on some of your requirements.	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/03/24 01:38 PM
-1	Do men and women have realistic standards for each other? Hear me out here, maybe just maybe, they want a healthy partner that is a healthy weight in a healthy size with a healthy heart... Like just because someone wants a healthy partner that can go on a spontaneous 20 mile hike without diying doesn't mean they are hell bent focused on just how "slim and trim" she is....	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/03/24 01:34 PM
2	Do men and women have realistic standards for each other? Doctors recommended being active at least 6 times a week. Also you conflating staying in a weight class with being healthy. Eating high fat ratio meals is and has almost never been considered healthy. Body builders are and have never been considered healthy people, not even to themselves. The bulk cycle of building muscle is just getting a calorie excess, fats are an easy way to do this but other foods would be healthier. the high fats part is just as easy unhealthy way to get to that number.	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/03/24 01:29 PM
1	Men are seen as more creepy doing the same actions as women. Let's debate in that everything creepy you just described involves being introverted and keeping to yourself. When you keep yourself to yourself, people don't know your intentions, and can fill in the gaps with something bad. If you ask me, filing in the gap of not knowing the person with "creepy" bad intentions, is pretty creepy, duck up, and toxic. Those people should probably get some professional help.	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/03/24 01:19 PM
1	Men are seen as more creepy doing the same actions as women. Let's debate We have had this conversation before. It amounts to the word "creepy" has changed its definition to "makes women feel uncomfortable". Largely anytime a woman feels uncomfortable for any reason the case is considered creepy. For men the word still has its original meaning, but this isn't the case for women. This is why someone's haircut can make them creepy.	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/03/24 01:17 PM
1	Men are seen as more creepy doing the same actions as women. Let's debate If a man is 3x more likely to be a criminal in general, 4-5 x more likely to be a pedophile and 99x more likely to sexually assault someone, This is the same statistical shit they used as justification for segregation, you know the massively racist shit. You have to look at where the numbers come from and why they are the way they are. For one example, in way to many places women are exempt from being charged with rape due to the legal definition requiring forced penis penetration, as women lack…	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/03/24 01:11 PM
1	Men are seen as more creepy doing the same actions as women. Let's debate I mean it's not good on them psychologically. But as a man who was once a teenager, man was having sex with the hot teacher one of the biggest wishes a teenager boy could have.	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/03/24 01:03 PM
10	Men are seen as more creepy doing the same actions as women. Let's debate What about the case where a teacher has sex with one of her students and only got a month in jail...	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/03/24 12:58 PM
10	Men are seen as more creepy doing the same actions as women. Let's debate My favorite is when they have the "bratty" trait and think it's a quirky social skills.... Like bish please, there is a reason why we very rarely see men act like a brat, because no one likes it.	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/03/24 12:57 PM
3	Men are seen as more creepy doing the same actions as women. Let's debate Generally speaking, it's complicated and "boiling it down" to one thing isn't a good approach because it will give you the wrong answer. The gist of the studies is there are many parts (things like what you have listed) which influence peoples behaviors by a little bit, but when you mix those parts together you see a bigger influence then the sum of the parts individually.	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/03/24 12:55 PM
2	Men are seen as more creepy doing the same actions as women. Let's debate Are you saying it okay for men to cup a cheek if they run along scared with no further harassment?	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/03/24 12:52 PM
4	Men are seen as more creepy doing the same actions as women. Let's debate all u can do is smile awkwardly and step back, she will not register she did anything wrong. And if you resist, you are called gay and weirdo. Or if you bring it up, you (the guy) become the bad guy because "she didn't mean anything bad/creepy but your making a big stink out of small things and bad mounting her"...	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/03/24 12:48 PM
1	I hear the statement "The bar for men is extremely low these days" a lot in the context of dating, sex, and relationships. Is the bar low for men's looks or personality/character/effort? None of this addresses what I'm talking about. It does, you just ignoring it because of your own personal experiences. The irrational attraction to beauty is overruled by good sense. You overestimated people. Most people don't have that good sense of judgement, they are actually generally blinded by attraction and lose their sense of judgement.	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/03/24 06:40 PM
1	I hear the statement "The bar for men is extremely low these days" a lot in the context of dating, sex, and relationships. Is the bar low for men's looks or personality/character/effort? Yes, my comment was that a man courting a woman and her dating him, is a man she is dating. The courtship part has to be included in that or we end up just ignoring all the hard shit.	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/03/24 06:37 PM
1	I hear the statement "The bar for men is extremely low these days" a lot in the context of dating, sex, and relationships. Is the bar low for men's looks or personality/character/effort? Like, I wish there were a whole lot of nuance there, but there really doesn't seem to be. Can actually Objectively Define what caused something to be considered "fun"? Now remember that I intentionally included the words Objectively Define so saying something from a thesaurus doesn't count. I think most social scientists would disagree that there is really this high amount of complexity to what it means to be Depends, because I would argue any social scientist that says there isn't a high amount…	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/03/24 06:32 PM
3	I hear the statement "The bar for men is extremely low these days" a lot in the context of dating, sex, and relationships. Is the bar low for men's looks or personality/character/effort? One has to go from not dating to dating, this that transition has to be included in the struggles oof "dating". You can't just ignore the hard shit and go "see not hard"...	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/03/24 06:16 PM
1	I hear the statement "The bar for men is extremely low these days" a lot in the context of dating, sex, and relationships. Is the bar low for men's looks or personality/character/effort? Women don't know how a man behaviors unless they spend time with that man. And women don't spend time with a random man unless they are attracted to them. A man's personality is more important than his looks. Unfortunately for women a man's looks take priority over his personality, because without his looks they won't want to give him the time of day let alone spend 20 to 80 hours with him to get to know his personality...	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/03/24 02:56 PM
2	I hear the statement "The bar for men is extremely low these days" a lot in the context of dating, sex, and relationships. Is the bar low for men's looks or personality/character/effort? Women's attraction to unknown men aka strangers is subdued or fraught. We can't just look at some random man and feel good things. That's actually not true and has been studied. The more attractive a guy is the better anyone, including women, imagines their personality to be. This is why attractive guys can get away with so much crap.	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/03/24 02:55 PM
1	I hear the statement "The bar for men is extremely low these days" a lot in the context of dating, sex, and relationships. Is the bar low for men's looks or personality/character/effort? There are two problems with the way your explaining how requirements aren't actually that hard to have/get. First is a complete lack of what quality women actually want. Women saying they want a guy that's fun and entertaining is easy to say but in actuality requires a lot of nuonce and is extremely specific for that women. These two things alone can make this "simple thing" actually be quite difficult. The second things is the fact of the matter that it becomes exponentially more difficult the …	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/03/24 02:53 PM
2	Are women actually entertaining hypersexual douchebags? Women definitely are also shallow about looks but I don’t think quite as much as men on average Unless these said women have a good time with men they don't find attractive, they are just as shallow...	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/03/24 10:43 PM
3	Are women actually entertaining hypersexual douchebags? “I wasn’t feeling it” usually translates to “I gave him a chance because he’s attractive I'm not going to say its used for that as it is, it's also very very frequently used as the flip of "he wasn't attractive enough but had some shine of a personality, but I didn't start feeling the sexual attraction".	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/03/24 06:15 PM
2	Are women actually entertaining hypersexual douchebags? We keep saying it, but you’re not listening. I rarely see it other than 6ft tall, handsome, charming. Shit like the reason for rejection or not dating a guy is normally "he's great, but I don't know", which translates to "I'm not physically attracted to him". This is largely the "women saying" they their physical attraction requirements...	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/03/24 05:57 PM
3	Are women actually entertaining hypersexual douchebags? Please reread my comment for the point I was saying. To me it feels like you got an idea of what people were saying stuck in your head and continued with it. Il give you a massive hint, it's not about that men don't like that women have physical standards (some are upset about this, but we aren't talking about all men) it's about how women refuse to acknowledge and voice their physical standards along with their other standards.	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/03/24 05:51 PM
1	Do you think straight men can seduce lesbians or women who have been in exclusively female relationships? That's SO random. If he organizes it well, everyone there can get a girlfriend out of it. LOL. Well he still doesn't have an ltr If you lurk in LGBTQ+ subreddits they get very annoyed when guys don't back off after telling them they're gay. But this happens to straight women as well. One this that I know of that isn't really talked about, how many lesbian pull the same (as guy) shit against straight women. Like straight women who is not interested in women, lesbian slides right up trying to get …	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/03/24 04:34 PM
1	Are women actually entertaining hypersexual douchebags? Brad Pitt could walk in, but he wouldn’t get any woman home if he had clothes with stains and holes, if he smelled, This is looks though, you literally described someones looks. I’ve seen countless of women immediately losing interest in a man as soon as he started talking. This isn't looks. I’m sensing that you want to paint women in an extremely shallow light, and when we disagree we’re just delusional. I don't get why women get so defensive about this. Like a person with a personality blessed…	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/03/24 02:36 PM
2	Are women actually entertaining hypersexual douchebags? It's the fact that "Women refuse to admit that looks are the most important thing in a partner" is constantly left out of what women say when they are talking about what they are looking for etc, unlike men. This leads to a lot of people completely misunderstanding female attraction and sexuality. They can end up thinking looks are second fiddle and people can make up for bad looks with other things, when in reality happeneds in rare cases.	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/03/24 02:24 PM
2	Do you think straight men can seduce lesbians or women who have been in exclusively female relationships? I rarely see anyone questioning gay men's sexuality, which I'm sure happens sometimes, but I doubt it's as common. I think it's because women are more passive than direct, but in my experience about 20% to 30% of women have the notion for gay guys of "what if I'm women enough to make him pick a woman", and about 10% do more than just make an off brand flirt and kind of try. Though I would agree the amount of women that actually go all in and try for gold is small. Men just kind of have to be mor…	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/03/24 02:11 PM
3	Do you think straight men can seduce lesbians or women who have been in exclusively female relationships? If a girl is bisexual and prefers women 99.9% of the time, she is bisexual. Ehhh, I would argue that this is just gate keeping and that most people don't want to justify the maybe one percent of opposite sex that they might be attracted to. It's just way easier and more convenient to just say they are gay/lesbian rather than "I'm bi but mostly men/women expect for this one time I was vibing really well with this one guy/girl and don't really know what I was feeling because we both had to run"...	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/03/24 07:23 PM
5	Are women actually entertaining hypersexual douchebags? Because the vast majority of women refuse to admit this, especially when it comes to how few men they actually find attractive.	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/03/24 07:14 PM
2	Are women actually entertaining hypersexual douchebags? That's something you have to explicitly say here because woman refuses to acknowledge they are just as shallow as men and therefore many men don't understand that women still require the man to be considered "attractive" for anything else past a "friendly" greating to happen.	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/03/24 07:13 PM
–	All men are predators? Or irrational fear? Ya but your not shoulder checking and pulling over on to the easement for every car because one might swerve and hit you... Like I said before There is a Massive difference between safe and paranoid. Why are you coming at these situations as "double checking your not going to get hit, instead of the actual obsessed with the possibility that someone is going to hit you"?	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/03/24 06:34 PM
1	All men are predators? Or irrational fear? What's the group name that's on the domestic terrorist list?	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/03/24 04:08 PM
1	All men are predators? Or irrational fear? Pics or it didn't happen.	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/03/24 04:07 PM
1	All men are predators? Or irrational fear? Did you assume every single car out in the road is being driven by someone who would hit you?	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/03/24 04:04 PM
1	All men are predators? Or irrational fear? Ah yes a troll.	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/03/24 04:03 PM
7	There's just as many low quality Women as Men This is what I have always been saying which women love to ignore. Being an bad person is not gender exclusive so there are just as many bad women as their are men. Just because men get less dates doesn't mean the quality of the date is any better than the droves of men women get to pick from. It's such a cop out to assume male dating is quality over quantity, where female dating is quantity over quantity. Statistics has taught use that in the world of dating quality and quantity are not linked.	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/03/24 06:26 AM
1	All men are predators? Or irrational fear? There is a difference between defense driving ans assuming all other drivers are out to get you.	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/03/24 06:21 AM
1	Which gender do you think treats the other gender worse, on average, in modern western society, and why? Got any links, studies, hell even feminist articles, that counter what I said? Not some niche random job off somewhere else that is still sexist, but like an actual field. Sorry but anyone can type something out and act like it's fact.	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/03/24 06:11 AM
1	All men are predators? Or irrational fear? But you don't scream "blood murder" at every car, do you?	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/03/24 06:09 AM
2	All men are predators? Or irrational fear? It's shit like kicking someone down stairs because they are walking to slow, punching a baby in the face because it's crying to loud, etc, not some heroic justification.... Stop trying to make this reasonable, humans are not reasonable and favore themselves.	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/03/24 05:55 AM
1	The best way for men to weed out superficial women who are using them is to get separate orders on dates. I literally have no idea what your going on about. My take is that woman in the past didn't have the freedom to do what men could, and generally has to be assisted by a man. If you ask me, thats pretty close to the concept of ownership to me.	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/03/24 05:54 AM
1	All men are predators? Or irrational fear? Exactly, you don't scream "bloody murder" at every single other care with the expectation they are trying to hit you... Just like being careless as a woman when you’re out alone gets you raped or killed. There is a difference between being careless, careful, and paranoid.	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/03/24 05:50 AM
1	All men are predators? Or irrational fear? Prove it, link at least one comment from PPD that has "men talking about how they want to hurt women".	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/03/24 05:47 AM
1	All men are predators? Or irrational fear? Incel & red pill forums. It’s terrifying what actual men will say online about women. Have you seen the shit women post. Stuff like FDS or 2x where they talk about how all men should die etc. Fridge groups exist everywhere	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/03/24 05:46 AM
2	Why do girls like to take an article of clothing from boyfriends? They get to try them on and see how comfy the well used item is, then by taking it it's free.	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/03/24 11:52 AM
4	Why do guys stay in the friendzone if they know they're in it? Girls call is the "fuckzone"	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/03/24 11:23 AM
7	Women are not picky at all, maybe less so than men If you look normalish, are not weird, you are congruent and a bit assertive - the lady is single - regardless of your job, money, height, looks, social status - if you hit on them 9/10 it will work. Arguably that's the base line and I'm sure the vast majority of guys would love this to be true even if it was 1/10, but unfortunately it's just not. I mean women even date and get obsessed with serial rapists, people who murder women, thugs, homeless people, it really doesn't matter, there is little…	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/03/24 11:22 AM
0	All men are predators? Or irrational fear? Women 200% treat cars better than men.	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/03/24 11:13 AM
1	The best way for men to weed out superficial women who are using them is to get separate orders on dates. Seriously look it up. Look up when women got the right to vote, and when they could get a driver's license, when it was legal to hit your wife, when it was still legal to forcefully have sex with your wife (regardless of her say) and wasn't rape, when women could get their own bank account, etc. please don't say shit you don't know anything about...	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/03/24 10:16 AM
0	The best way for men to weed out superficial women who are using them is to get separate orders on dates. If I read things correctly but really sounds like your the one who is whining and bitching about how other people have an opinion that is different from yours...	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/03/24 10:11 AM
1	Which gender do you think treats the other gender worse, on average, in modern western society, and why? So then why are you talking to me like I said it, when you know I didn't?	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/03/24 09:49 AM
1	Which gender do you think treats the other gender worse, on average, in modern western society, and why? Because you can't explain it. Again if it's so simple then it shouldn't take you more than 5 minutes to explain it. However, your completely ignored my bit on scientific papers and why/how they are considered "proof" and told me I was wrong... I asked what you consider "proof" and you refuse to answer, while saying it's so simple that you shouldn't have to explain it.	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/03/24 09:47 AM
1	Which gender do you think treats the other gender worse, on average, in modern western society, and why? Being shit on to the point of getting suicidal over it is not a universal male experience. Again, your the one who brought up suicide, not me... You keep injecting your own argument into my side and keep getting annoyed at me for the stuff you say but I didn't, like at this point your literally arguing with your self. Edit: and your double and triple posting on the same comments. I would recommend you take a breather and actually look at what your responding too.	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/03/24 06:51 AM
1	Which gender do you think treats the other gender worse, on average, in modern western society, and why? The implications were that I wasn't using it in my argument because I didn't bring it up... Like you can't seriously be squawking because of something that I didn't bring up and you wanted me to so you could have your own "gatcha" moment, like...	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/03/24 06:47 AM
1	Which gender do you think treats the other gender worse, on average, in modern western society, and why? I ask you what is "objective proof"? Soo you going to post objective proof on what "objective proof" actually is? I can't give you something if you don't know what it is	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/03/24 06:45 AM
2	What is a deal breaker you think the opposite sex should adopt? Women should automatically disqualify any man who questions a woman's need for safety. Ever seen the episode of Tino goes fully crazy and literally pads every corner in his house and make a literal suit of padding so he can't get hurt. I have met some women where a man being within lunging range (about 7 feet) is to close for them to feel safe.	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/03/24 06:14 AM
1	All men are predators? Or irrational fear? Why do you lock your door? Half the time I don't.	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/03/24 04:59 AM
17	All men are predators? Or irrational fear? Up to 30% of men say they would rape if they could get away with it. As bad as this sound in the context, it's also a bad statistic because it's ignoring the human part of humans. Up to 50% of people would say they would kill someone if it wasn't bad. The biggest thing missing from this is the human brains consideration of "should they actually go through with it".	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/03/24 04:57 AM
7	All men are predators? Or irrational fear? Not all, or even most, but some cars will crash. Do you still use motor vehicles?	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/03/24 04:53 AM
0	Which gender do you think treats the other gender worse, on average, in modern western society, and why? Then prove that it's false, should be simple right and take you no less than a few minutes.	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/03/24 04:51 AM
1	Which gender do you think treats the other gender worse, on average, in modern western society, and why? What the actual “duck” is wrong with you that basic logic stymies you? Good thing I said no such thing and instead you’re attempting to strawman and put words in my mouth, which I can’t stand — fucking stop. Except that's literally what you said. There are plenty of FtM trans people who actually transition to live as men indefinitely, and clearly they’re not all offing themselves. So therefore, whatever treatment she got going undercover as a he isn’t some universal male experience. Your argumen…	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/03/24 04:41 AM
1	Which gender do you think treats the other gender worse, on average, in modern western society, and why? ? Norah Vincent ended up killing herself after like a decade of mental illness, which is a big part of the “gotcha!” factor of the argument. I mean if that's what you say, but I didn't bring it up for say "gotcha", so no idea why your trying to inject a "gotcha" for me to you in this conversation. I didn't bring it up, because it was close to 2 decades to when she wrote her book.	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/03/24 04:39 AM
1	Which gender do you think treats the other gender worse, on average, in modern western society, and why? All of this talk about “gravity” and “weight” to bypass what I said about it not being objective proof. I ask you what is "objective proof"? Scientific studies are only valued because they wholed weight by the assumption that the people running the study are acting in good faith. That's why it's such a big deal when don't act in good faith. That's also why, generally speaking, one study is not good enough and multiple studies that fine the same thing is needed because "more studies whole more we…	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/03/24 04:36 AM
1	The best way for men to weed out superficial women who are using them is to get separate orders on dates. Tldr of your comment "I like to have a greater privilege than men, stop trying to change things because I like them the way they are"...	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/03/24 04:32 AM
1	The best way for men to weed out superficial women who are using them is to get separate orders on dates. My guy, the concept of men owning women isn't much older that 100 years, if that... It's really not that old of a tradition... It's so not that old that many places still have and still enforce laws that transfer gardeanship from her parents to a man if a woman is married while still being a minor...	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/03/24 04:29 AM
1	The best way for men to weed out superficial women who are using them is to get separate orders on dates. $40 is like 2 drinks without food or tip	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/03/24 03:54 AM
1	If the blue pill is correct, why does the friend zone exist? Looks at the implied context, "by women m" is the important bit your missing.	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/03/24 03:28 AM
4	If the blue pill is correct, why does the friend zone exist? I don't know if you misunderst how sexuality works, but I'm 99.99% sure that straight men don't want to have a relationship with other men.	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/03/24 05:08 PM
2	If the blue pill is correct, why does the friend zone exist? this is literally what I’m talking about. Pretending everyone doesn’t know what the “friend zone is” We all know what it is, it's the zone where you get put when your a friend, That's it nothing more nothing less. If you thing it's something else that it's you who seems to be confused and pretending you know what it is.	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/03/24 05:06 PM
2	Blue Pillers constantly respond to criticism or men venting with “well clearly your attitude/personality is why you struggle” but this makes zero sense, as venting anonymously online has absolutely nothing to do with how you interact with women/people in real life That only holds true if they stopped telling themselves lies to believe.	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/03/24 05:04 PM
3	The best way for men to weed out superficial women who are using them is to get separate orders on dates. Oh can we please go back to the "tradition" literally owning women, as it would end this debate really fast. I personally prefer equality, but you seems to want "tradition".	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/03/24 05:03 PM
3	The best way for men to weed out superficial women who are using them is to get separate orders on dates. Nothing wrong with tradition. It's not equality therefore is something wrong with the tradition and should be stopped. I get it makes them feel special, but so does women paying for me. Does that mean we should make all dates pay for me, no because that dumb AF. Just like your "it's traditional" argument.	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/03/24 04:59 PM
1	The best way for men to weed out superficial women who are using them is to get separate orders on dates. If I see another post about who pays... Just pay bro. It's not that expensive and is generally a nice gesture. What kind of cheep ass dates are you taking these women on, I don't have $200 laying around because "it's it's a nice gesture". Let alone how many date you have on top of that.	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/03/24 04:57 PM
2	The best way for men to weed out superficial women who are using them is to get separate orders on dates. Great advice until you learn that most women find it extremely hard to to build sexual attraction to a friend. I get it, y'all want to know the guy before trying to get intimate with them (both physically and emotionally), but every guy knows that it rarely works out that way and commonly ends up with him being interested and her not, because she "just can't see him like that".	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/03/24 04:54 PM
1	The best way for men to weed out superficial women who are using them is to get separate orders on dates. logically speaking if someone wants you in their wedding or wants you to travel for their wedding they should be the one to pay for it right? Commonly, they only pay for the service and your expected to pay for your own everything else.	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/03/24 04:51 PM
1	The best way for men to weed out superficial women who are using them is to get separate orders on dates. if someone HAD to be the one to pay for all of it, it should be the one that asks the other out In general not paying equals no second date, so HAD to pay is pretty common.	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/03/24 04:50 PM
4	The best way for men to weed out superficial women who are using them is to get separate orders on dates. Because they are the one asking women out and inviting them every time. Can't pay? Don't invite people. This is not about feminism, gender, or modern culture - Oh but it is about gender and modern culture because modern day modern culture dictates that its a man's job to ask a woman out. Even if she is the one who is super interested, she would be dropping neon hits like "maybe you should ask me out". This "Because they are the one asking women out" only holds true if women asked men out at the …	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/03/24 04:48 PM
3	The best way for men to weed out superficial women who are using them is to get separate orders on dates. if they are still single after age 25, 30, or 35, then they “hit the wall” and are expired. Men go out of their way to rub this in women’s face and enjoy humiliating and hurting women. Please go touch some grass, some men maybe but the vast majority of men don't and don't do this, and you know that...	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/03/24 04:43 PM
5	The best way for men to weed out superficial women who are using them is to get separate orders on dates. Because like men and generally humans in general, they refuse to acknowledge their privilege and love holding on to it and power. That's why anyone who stands up for mens rights bis automatically lumped into the incel/redpill groups regardless of what "right" he is fighting for.	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/03/24 04:42 PM
3	The best way for men to weed out superficial women who are using them is to get separate orders on dates. I loved coffee and a walk, it's a great way to actually sit down and get to lightly know someone to see if I actually might want to pursue something. However the number of women who took offence that I wasn't already "in love" (not actually but they really wanted the in love effort and dotting) was way to high. With the general concession being "coffee dates are low effort and it shows that your not prioritizing me and going to remain putting in low effort and the bar minimum for the rest of the…	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/03/24 04:36 PM
1	If the blue pill is correct, why does the friend zone exist? That’s just called friends. Ya exactly, "just friends" aka the "friendzone". Don't know why this is so hard for you to grasp. As you said Every few years the terms change: hanger on-friendzone, etc. The words change but the game is always the game	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/03/24 04:29 PM
1	If the blue pill is correct, why does the friend zone exist? Fun fact, did you know that two plutonic friend are both in the friendzone, just each other's friendzone because the friendzone is quiet literally "just friends"... Staying or leaving is up to them, but the fact that they are "just friends" doesn't change the fact that it's literally the friendzone.	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/03/24 04:23 PM
0	Does the "friend zone" mainly consist of males? If so, why? I think it's because guys are a lot more emotional and like emotional connection that women really want to believe.	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/03/24 04:11 PM
3	If the blue pill is correct, why does the friend zone exist? The wiki of this sub defines it as mainstream views. Definitions are important for debate. The users are absolutely not abiding this this decision, neither is the mainstream view anymore either.	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/03/24 04:10 PM
2	If the blue pill is correct, why does the friend zone exist? Orbiter and friendzone are two separate things, they mean different things because they are different. A friendzone is a place where someone gets put and orbiter is a type of person due to their action of orbiting. You don't call a nut a screw.	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/03/24 04:09 PM
4	If the blue pill is correct, why does the friend zone exist? The friendzone is the zone where you get put when they just want to be friends and nothing more... The whole "took to long" has nothing to do with it.	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/03/24 03:44 PM
3	If the blue pill is correct, why does the friend zone exist? Because you’re expecting sex as a consolation prize for treating her like a person... To be fair, it's not like guys know what this (being treated like a person) feels like so obviously that what they would relate to furthing the relationship.	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/03/24 03:41 PM
2	If the blue pill is correct, why does the friend zone exist? The friend zone is a thing when a dude like a girl And the girl only likes him as a friend and not romantically... Nothing more nothing less... What your thinking of is called an "Orbiter"	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/03/24 03:26 PM
1	If the blue pill is correct, why does the friend zone exist? Blue pill just means mainstream. I mean this is the copout that OP was talking about. Real talk, blue pill started as a counter to red pill, however it's now just the opposite of red pill. Same shit just favoring women over men.	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/03/24 03:25 PM
3	If the blue pill is correct, why does the friend zone exist? Become their physical type (ya, it's not even just about being hot, you have to be hot in the shape that they like) and then develop sexual tension early in the relationship.	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/03/24 03:20 PM
1	If the blue pill is correct, why does the friend zone exist? I just don't get it. If we're both having fun, enjoying each others' company, have similar interests, and I'm a good person then why can't we be more than friends? Because your not hot enough for them. why do women get upset when men ask out their close friend? Nobody is trying to "get into your pants", people just want a romantic relationship with the person they like. This stems from the fact that you decided to end a relationship on your own terms because they never gave you a signal they the…	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/03/24 03:15 PM
1	Which gender do you think treats the other gender worse, on average, in modern western society, and why? Would you believe a study with a sample size of one? Opposed to a study size of 0? Yes there holds gravity to the fact that the "radical lesbian feminist" who was extremely bias and wanted to twist anything to make men look bad couldn't bring herself to it due to her experiences as a man. That would be the equivalent of a white supremacists not wanting to be racist anymore because of their experiences. It's holds so weight. Not to mention that the overwhelming smaller things women have tried who…	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/03/24 02:45 PM
1	You can't change what you're attracted to. But most people can compromise on certain preferences. Ok, but my personal tastes have no changed. I'm assuming your a single person and not something like 100 thousand people using the same reddit account with the the same experience, are you? You can’t extrapolate from what fashion companies sell to women to what men “like”. You absolutely can... We aren't looking at one line of clothes but how all the cloths are designed to shape the body, both in men's and women's clothing... Men like what they like (usually, young, slim women), and usually don’…	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/03/24 01:30 PM
1	The reason why women’s preferences generally speaking seem to range very different in online dating vs real life As someone who has been played by hot young single in my area, it's pretty easy to try to find genuine people by looking at their profile (carbon copies are generally fake/shallow people) and talking to them for a few minutes. The problem is women aren't just looking for a partner but a good time so how much rizz and excitement the guy brings to the conversation skews the judgment by a lot. It's like marketing a product, lots of companies use flashy boxes with slogans because it attracts peoples…	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/03/24 01:19 PM
2	The reason why women’s preferences generally speaking seem to range very different in online dating vs real life Where have you approached women successfully that might not be your typical "socially accepted places"? There are a non insignificant number of of women who think any man unsolicitedly approaching a woman is creepy, and a smaller but still insignificant number of of women who feel like is harassment.	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/03/24 01:14 PM
1	You can't change what you're attracted to. But most people can compromise on certain preferences. Though that's true, I did say the last 100 years, like back to the start of the 1900's. To find out what the general population likeed, take a look at fashion trends and how they were shaping the bodies for the "ideal" look or the time. For example skinny and long legs were all the rage in the 200X's, where now it's all about the plump butt (BBL's) and boobs. If you go back even further to the 19XX's there were times where a "boyish" figure (aka little to no curves) was the "ideal" look.	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/03/24 10:38 AM
1	Does the "friend zone" mainly consist of males? If so, why? Don't forget unattractive woman.	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/03/24 10:27 AM
2	Does the "friend zone" mainly consist of males? If so, why? I’d argue that women are just less likely to ask out male friends and cause the “friendzoning” to begin with. Okay, You would lose the that argument as we absolutely know already know that for most women friendship and romantic feelings are separate things where with most guys they are just a continuation of the same thing.	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/03/24 10:25 AM
5	Does the "friend zone" mainly consist of males? If so, why? when a woman would already get over her infatuation and/or move on, a man can still have some hope even when they're both in relationships. I'm not sure why it happens In general, because men don't have the openness and availability to be able to just constantly give up and move on to the next one. These types of men slowly get attached and develop deep feelings definitely won't have another chance for at least a few years.	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/03/24 10:23 AM
17	Does the "friend zone" mainly consist of males? If so, why? If I'm interacting with someone I find attractive, and they seem to enjoy my company, I'm going to want to take it further. I mean, why wouldn't I? Women don't seem to have the same impulse, at least not towards me. Couldn't have said it any better	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/03/24 10:08 AM
1	Does the "friend zone" mainly consist of males? If so, why? Title: it doesn't it's just a different word. For unattractive people (vast majority of men) and some women, they get put in the friendzone. For everyone else that is attractive enough, they get put in the fuckzone. And everybody has heard women bitch about being fuckzoned.	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/03/24 10:07 AM
17	Blue Pillers constantly respond to criticism or men venting with “well clearly your attitude/personality is why you struggle” but this makes zero sense, as venting anonymously online has absolutely nothing to do with how you interact with women/people in real life The reason for this is most women don't know what it's like for the vast majority of women they interact with to not know you exist, or the shear amount of rizz that is required to get a girl interested. The majority of women just reject guys that they don't have an interest in (generally speaking not cute enough) and then humor the ones that are attracted enough to. The problem is women view these "attractive enough guys" are average so if you as a guy are "attractive enough" then the only othe…	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/03/24 04:17 AM
2	Which gender do you think treats the other gender worse, on average, in modern western society, and why? I mean I think it's right on point since it's now all about how your treating people.	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/03/24 04:01 AM
1	You can't change what you're attracted to. But most people can compromise on certain preferences. Specifically around the romantic. Did you know why women don't like short guys, It's because short guys remind them of children. The "coming of age" part in the stores is literally "oh look he isn't a child anymore, that's why you just noticed he has grown taller".	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/03/24 03:57 AM
2	Which gender do you think treats the other gender worse, on average, in modern western society, and why? Why is this even a discussion point, there was literally a Woman who tried being a man and quit because of how hard it was.... She talks about how she even started to hate women because of how they treated her, Literally her words are "I would never want to become a man". Like again, someone literally put this shit to the test and your heads so far up the dark end that you refuse to take the word of a "radical lesbian feminist" that was looking for the smoking gun on "men have it better", and wh…	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/03/24 03:55 AM
1	Which gender do you think treats the other gender worse, on average, in modern western society, and why? I think women are nicer to men. Only when they are on the clock or seen the shit men go through...	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/03/24 03:47 AM
6	Which gender do you think treats the other gender worse, on average, in modern western society, and why? Have you seen women treat people that are opening up about those things? Because i just saw you shout "TROLL" at someone like a toddler having a temper tantrum. Can't say that's a good treatment from one gender to the next...	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/03/24 03:46 AM
2	Which gender do you think treats the other gender worse, on average, in modern western society, and why? 10% to 30% more woman are graduating from college, women in the same class of job and working the same hours on average make more than their male counter parts.	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/03/24 03:39 AM
1	Which gender do you think treats the other gender worse, on average, in modern western society, and why? The who doesn't matter at all, it's not like each gender, race, or age group gets to getting a sets standards for them to operate by. By trying to push the cause of the problems onto someone else makes you the problem. Who is killing the men? Themselves, literally suicide, which is caused by gender norms and expectation that are not changing for men because people like you who refuse to empathize that there is a problem that Everyone can help with. Who is starting the wars? Politicians, which ca…	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/03/24 03:29 AM
1	You can't change what you're attracted to. But most people can compromise on certain preferences. I explicitly remember fma's height being reference, especially when she starts to fall for him "when did he get so tall"....	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/03/24 03:13 AM
0	Men of the western society, I'd like to know if you're really not able to find even one decent woman out there? Depends on how attractive he was before, but yes that's literally how fucking dumb it is and why guys hate it sooo much. Like I have been rejected 3 times for my height (little been told it's my height and I'm too short, I'm 5'10.65"...). And that's being told by another person, I suspect the vast majority of women don't have the balls to do that, Soo...	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/03/24 06:17 PM
5	You can't change what you're attracted to. But most people can compromise on certain preferences. Don't those short guys get either rejected or ignored until they "over come the odds and become a hero"? Like sure, if the short guys could save the world like one punch man, I'm sure they could get the ladies. However in reality, your comment just translates to "short guys have to work waayyy harder to get the girl".	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/03/24 06:14 PM
2	You can't change what you're attracted to. But most people can compromise on certain preferences. Hell I have seen men get sham6for dating skinny women because it sets an unfair expectation for fat woman.	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/03/24 06:10 PM
0	You can't change what you're attracted to. But most people can compromise on certain preferences. I honestly don't know how, it's not that uncommon.	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/03/24 06:09 PM
3	You can't change what you're attracted to. But most people can compromise on certain preferences. Title: you can absolutely change what your attratived too. I'm so tired of people saying you can't and that it's something else like biological, it's not and It's something that people learn. We can see this is evident when you look at the last 100 years and how many times the "ideal" body has drastically changed, about every 10 years. Since it's changing more than once person each generation we know that it's a completely mental processes and isn't limited by time. The most common effect of thi…	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/03/24 06:07 PM
1	Men of the western society, I'd like to know if you're really not able to find even one decent woman out there? You do realize a 5 to a 7 is 2 and a 5 to a 9 is 4, right? This means that it's 2 to 4 points...	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/03/24 06:01 PM
1	Why do some men feel the need to “test” you when you state your interests? The men who understand that all friendships should begin as platonic until or unless there is mutual attraction are of course welcome. How do you learn that they understand that friends should be able to act platonic without ever spending time with them? It sounds like the yee old chicken and the egg problem.	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/03/24 05:09 PM
1	Men's self worth and general perception in society is tied to their success with women. Ehhh, maybe not confrontationaly but they absolutely do. They can't stop comparing them selfs to each other, and if one girl stands out the others can get a bit salty. It's just all in undertones and not out in the open, see women need to appear friendly regardless if they are. I have seen this shit happen like 8 times in the last week. And I'm not even looking for it, it just happened with people around me.	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/03/24 05:08 AM
5	Men's self worth and general perception in society is tied to their success with women. When men have issues they're told to shut up about it and that women have it worse, but somehow we're told this is equality. Louder for the people in the back.	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/03/24 05:04 AM
7	Men's self worth and general perception in society is tied to their success with women. This. It stems from the fact that woman love sex just only with the men they want sex from and everyone else is gross. Sex ends up being the prize for being the top guys so a lack of sex implies a failure.	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/03/24 05:03 AM
10	Men's self worth and general perception in society is tied to their success with women. Bingo. Because a misogynist can be successful with women, but an incel isn't by definition.	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/03/24 05:00 AM
1	Is it true that most people cannot lower their standards biologically? Title: No because standards are not biological they are culturally (social environment) learned. Just look back into the pases 100 years at how many times the "ideal" body has changed, as it drastically changes every 10 years or so. If standards were biological, they they wouldn't be changing so fast and along with the evolution of pop culture.	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/03/24 04:54 AM
9	Men of the western society, I'd like to know if you're really not able to find even one decent woman out there? Being 6'1 is the only advantage I have Ding ding ding, we have a winner... 6ft+ is automatically a like plus 2 to 4 on the attractive scale. I have seen some arguably unattractive dudes that ladies find hot because they are tall. Being tall as a guy is like women having big boobs. Moreover only about 15% of guys are 6ft+ in North America so I can tell you right now your not "average".	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/03/24 04:46 AM
3	Men of the western society, I'd like to know if you're really not able to find even one decent woman out there? You only get so many hours in a day, doing 10 to 12 hour days, plus maybe an hour or 2 for transportation, hour or 2 for cooking, let's say 30 minutes a day for chores and 8 hours for sleeping, your total daily work time is now 20.5 to 24.5 hours in a day. If you have a hobby then there goes any of your free time. And this doesn't even include having to work weekends like in some jobs. No way in hell is a relationship going to form unless your hobby is having a relationship.	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/03/24 04:43 AM
1	Men of the western society, I'd like to know if you're really not able to find even one decent woman out there? do you really struggle to come across even one and I mean just ONE single woman who is a decent human, is reasonably attractive in your eyes Not really there are plenty of good women out there and would also be open to date you if you could charm her? The filter you added returned no results. ////* Ultimately the problem comes from that fact that women have way way way more requirements than men, with the data largely outlining that any women largely finds only about 5% of men around their age a…	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/03/24 04:38 AM
14	Do men not care about having female friends? When I actually care and have look after my friends, I have been told by a number of, who I thought to be female friends, to drop the act it's gross and off putting. Apparently being a good person that likes to look out for others and their well being is gross...	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/03/24 04:31 AM
2	Why do some men feel the need to “test” you when you state your interests? I would argue that woman have easier access to social hobbies. I'm was on vacation and meet a nerdy girl (anime, fanfiction, the works) she was cute and had guy and girls inviting to to all sorts of things both in vacation and back home, so much so that flaking out of 75% of her plans still left her with a full schedule. See for social activities, women invite women and men invite women, but no one really invites men. You can see this in real life if you plan a party and invite some normally ner…	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/03/24 03:28 AM
2	Why are women so aggressively worried about being murdered by men? Generally people will be to scared to do anything. Having crippling anxiety is a problem what takes away from the fun an enjoyment in life.	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/03/24 03:09 AM
1	Why do some men feel the need to “test” you when you state your interests? And how many all men groups do you think you have? Again like a 10 to 1 ratio...	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/03/24 03:07 AM
4	Why are women so aggressively worried about being murdered by men? Probably because it doesn't seem productive, like being wary us good but too wary will mostly lead to problems.	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/03/24 11:19 AM
6	Why are women so aggressively worried about being murdered by men? I think it's that men understand that you can wallow in your own fear or move on. A man who stands still becomes and is a nobody that no one what's. Those men are the ones that someone might ask about at their highschool reunion and no one has seen or heard about in years, not even knowing if they are still alive.	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/03/24 11:17 AM
11	Why are women so aggressively worried about being murdered by men? Not including the news broadcasts, blogs, articles, The hundreds of thousands of comments of women says how they are worried about being attracted or murderd my literally any guy they encounter. Or how about the fact that you almost always have to pretense a comment with "women should always look out for their own safety... etc" or you will get blasted... Like that should be obviously implied but we have to explicitly it or we are the bad guys...	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/03/24 11:11 AM
6	Why are women so aggressively worried about being murdered by men? Yes	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/03/24 11:09 AM
7	Why are women so aggressively worried about being murdered by men? At the same time, almost no man gets a consistent dose of feeling very vulnerable physically, while getting picked on by other bigger and stronger men for no reason at all. Oh sweety, you should try growing up as a man as it's not much different (just less sexual and a lot more "will I get to keep my teeth"). The biggest difference is men Know No One will step in to help them.	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/03/24 11:06 AM
10	Why are women so aggressively worried about being murdered by men? Depends, did they die because of your resurrection ritual?	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/03/24 11:02 AM
2	Why are women so aggressively worried about being murdered by men? Ehhh, most people haven't been stabbed before. I can almost guarantee anyone taking 4 inches to the lumbar is going down regardless of sex or size.	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/03/24 11:01 AM
3	Women’s dating preferences are creating a system of vast inequality in dating Most couples are within 3 years of the same age, have similar education levels and socioeconomic class. Plenty of “average” men are dating or married. This is bad statistics at best, "most couples" what about the ones that aren't a couple because they can't find anyone... They aren't couples so they wouldn't be included in this metric.	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/03/24 10:54 AM
1	Why do some men feel the need to “test” you when you state your interests? Well, this is part of the problem: it isn't cool. Some parts of some subcultures have been commercially popularised, but the moment you start straying too far from the mainstream it's easy to end up back in no man's land. Ya. That's literally why I added the honorific to denote the lack of it being completely true...	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/03/24 10:49 AM
2	Why do some men feel the need to “test” you when you state your interests? I have seen the dnd groups, it's like 1 women to every 10 men.	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/03/24 10:45 AM
2	Why do some men feel the need to “test” you when you state your interests? In general, a nerd is just someone who has a high level obsession about something. Girls who love shopping and fashion trends can be nerds. It's just that "nerd" had a negative stigma so people try to stay away from it with others who should have a higher social status.	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/03/24 10:44 AM
1	Men are not blindsided by breakups/divorce as much as they think I know for a fact that a lot of guys are blindsided as they are trying to make it work and she is just like "nope the love is gone to the wind, no idea why or what happened but it's gone for good, so it's over". This happens more then you would like to think., generally because guys don't have a "romantic" bar that needs to be constantly topped off like women do.	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/03/24 06:26 PM
2	Would women go redpill if they had to chase and date other women? Literally had the same argument made today to me, unfortunately approaching have doing the tango is part of the game so it's included in the whole calculation.	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/03/24 06:22 PM
3	Fellas, you’re not single because you are unattractive, short, broke, play video games, watch anime, or other generic guy shit your single because you’re boring Literally the worst post I have seen. "Guys your not single because you do hobbies that seems boring to most women, your single because you have hobbies that are boring to most women"..... Next time take like a few minutes and really thing about what your saying and try to make it just a little bit different.	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/03/24 06:19 PM
27	Why do some men feel the need to “test” you when you state your interests? Gate keeping exists across the board with men and women, it's not men with women unique. I think it might show up more with men and women against nerdy hobies, and how many fewer female nerds their are. Especially when considering that being a "nerd" is now cool... It can leave a sour taste in someones mouth who claims to be one thing when they are not just to be cool, especially when you always liked that thing and was bulled for it. As many of the hot anime cosplaying girls have said to the th…	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/03/24 06:15 PM
1	How do you feel about the fact that women are encouraged to do things in relationships that men aren't? My guy, you literally ask why people care... They care because it impacts them in one way or another...	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/03/24 04:53 PM
1	Every modern dating problem can be summarized into “Too little respect, Too much hubris” Just laying out what the reality is for most people.	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/03/24 04:45 PM
1	Every modern dating problem can be summarized into “Too little respect, Too much hubris” I mean why what's the point? Making the interactions more about interacting with other people and less about "partner shopping", aka OP's literally point.	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/03/24 05:00 AM
1	Every modern dating problem can be summarized into “Too little respect, Too much hubris” This logic can become harmful very quickly. You could use it to justify women giving abusers or guys with a million red flags chances. You can do this with twisting almost any logic, so your not saying much... Not only did I not say anything about ignoring red flags, but I also didn't say anything about never being able to leave... The concept is about valueing someone else's time as much as your own. If the other person is a dick, ass, etc, Ie someone you don't want to value, or their time, the…	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/03/24 04:58 AM
1	Every modern dating problem can be summarized into “Too little respect, Too much hubris” Gonna be honest, most women are against coffee dates and want something more concrete.	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/03/24 04:54 AM
1	Every modern dating problem can be summarized into “Too little respect, Too much hubris” The problem is she didn't see OP as another human that allocated time for her, so the two of them could go off and try to enjoy the time. It's less about romance or friendship and more about the impact and effort the other person made for you/them. Just leaving clearly shows that you don't value the other persons time because you have wastes it.	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/03/24 04:53 AM
3	How do you feel about the fact that women are encouraged to do things in relationships that men aren't? How does it impact you? Fewer dating options, sure, but you already filter out by religion, politics, race, body size, and whatnot, Exactly, why would I want to add a completely avoidable "filter for toxic dating habits" to that already pretty large list...	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/03/24 04:48 AM
1	Every modern dating problem can be summarized into “Too little respect, Too much hubris” The concept of "slinging in and out of friend" groups implys to me that it's more about masks and less about being yourself and finding a place where you can just be who you are. I'm autistic, ADHD, and dislexic, and it took me close to a decade to figure it out.	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/03/24 05:25 PM
0	Opinion: You need to develop your data literacy if you’re going to use data/studies/statistics to make broad claims about society! Not in your comment so doesn't count. It's reddit, I'm not looking through your comment history to find some random link	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/03/24 05:21 PM
2	How do you feel about the fact that women are encouraged to do things in relationships that men aren't? I never got, why people get so mad about what others do in the dating or sex life, that has no impact on their life, other, than those people are not a viable option for them. Generally speaking, because humans (peoples) actions and habits are not unique to them. There is a culture around it which can, and has spread. If you have ever worked retail, regardless of what kind of retail, you would know that the cosmic winds make everyone show up at the same time, regardless of the time. I personally…	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/03/24 09:33 AM
0	Opinion: You need to develop your data literacy if you’re going to use data/studies/statistics to make broad claims about society! Depends, "8% unsure" is a perfect example of misleading or missing context data, as "unsure" doesn't include "sure of who but liying about it".	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/03/24 09:19 AM
0	Opinion: You need to develop your data literacy if you’re going to use data/studies/statistics to make broad claims about society! This one's gets brought up a lot, I hate it when people conflate "happy being single" and "not looking for a relationship". Turns out most women aren't happy being single, but most single women (60% ish) aren't looking for a relationship.	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/03/24 09:13 AM
4	Every modern dating problem can be summarized into “Too little respect, Too much hubris” It wasn't a waste of your time. Ehhh, you can think about it differently. They both allocated a certain amount of time to spend with each other and get to know each other. She made an excuse and left early, therefore not fulfilling her side of the agreement/agreement. He now has a lost opportunity because he could have scheduled and done something instead of the date, but now he can't schedule anything due to the timing.	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/03/24 07:16 AM
1	Every modern dating problem can be summarized into “Too little respect, Too much hubris” I don’t see what’s wrong with leaving. Did you do that? Generally speaking because you remove the human genuine aspect of dating then. Humans are complex and you can't quantify if something is or isn't going to work until after it happeneds. Deciding "nope" and walking away before knowing the outcome is the equivalent of dating a shallow pick me or an AI chat bot. How many millons of times have people said "they weren't my type, but then we had a good time and one thing lead to another"?	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/03/24 07:06 AM
4	Every modern dating problem can be summarized into “Too little respect, Too much hubris” As an introvert, that's something you get better with when socializing. I have done the same thing OP didn't and it turns out to be a lot of fun, as soon as you break out of "I'm a socially awkward introvert", and yes I am a "Socially awkward introvert". From my experience, most people are introverted and slightly weird so it's actually pretty fun to interact with similar ish people even if there isn't the sexual attractive to motivate you.	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/03/24 07:02 AM
1	Feminism encourages women to never take accountability for their poor decisions when it comes to choosing incorrectly It's can, and often is, when they add way to many traits, which are largely shallow and many mutually exclusive. Refinement means find out what is absolutely needs and what is something what they prefer	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/03/24 06:58 AM
2	Feminism encourages women to never take accountability for their poor decisions when it comes to choosing incorrectly There is a quality to the vetting process, I found most women just add more requirements instead vif refining the requirements down.	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/03/24 05:30 PM
1	Let’s stop pretending guys don’t age and have just as many unattractive problems later in life In general we just don't give a fuck For our mental sanity, we can't give a fuck.	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/03/24 05:27 PM
4	Let’s stop pretending guys don’t age and have just as many unattractive problems later in life Its a myth that men go for younger women, men go for the most attractive women, but since we all peak in our 20s and then go downhill thats usually going to be a younger woman. I would argue that the average men just "go for women". And it's infact women that go for older men.	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/03/24 05:26 PM
–	Why does this sub pretend like obvious things are super overcomplicated? find genuinely ugly, but a person can become more or less attractive in someone's eyes based on other aspects of them are attractive or not. "Looks are to keep them around long enough for them to stay for your personality". It's a good slogan that speaks to the heart of the problem. Women tens to only ever voice the second half of this saying and hide the fact that the first have exists. Yes women are finicky people when it comes to looks (I call it more shallow if a literally slightly to large …	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/03/24 03:59 PM
–	Why does this sub pretend like obvious things are super overcomplicated? So then say that in every peace of advice, say "you could work on your personality and become funny because most women love a funny guy. But if your ugly, it's just going to land you in the friendzoned". Say this shit , be honest instead of omitting the truth that most women don't want to say. The issue here is that this doesn't work at all, it's not how women give advice. Women tend to give advice around how they would consider other women liking that person as a concept not a reality. The most…	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/03/24 03:49 PM
–	Most women want to be loved, but they don't want to love. When there is a social code and expectation as to how a man is supposed to act and if he fails to fulfill the expectation he is out, it really doesn't lean to feeling loved as a person. Let's take a look at how way to many women view aspects of dating. As said before, a man has to approach and be confident. Men being shy, social awkward, or not confirmed are largely not viewed as attractive and are out. It's generally expected of the man to plan and provide a socially fun and interactive date, w…	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/03/24 09:02 AM
2	Women preferring to stay single because they don't feel attracted to average men says a lot about their unrealistic expectations ........ Your seriously trying to tell me it doesn't count unless there is a man in the room that can do a ducking twirl, ahahaha yep there is no pleasing you. We are talking about physical attraction..	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/02/24 10:00 PM
3	Women preferring to stay single because they don't feel attracted to average men says a lot about their unrealistic expectations I know (is or was friends, not just acquaintance) 12 guys who are 5" to 5"4' not that rare. But i see the point was missed, the point is your saying if something doesn't like a person for one this they might as well not like that whole sex... It's a dumb argument	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/02/24 08:29 PM
0	Women preferring to stay single because they don't feel attracted to average men says a lot about their unrealistic expectations I mean it's fine if they would kindly starve in silence and not blame anything that not Michelin Star for being to shit. They can find their own place to eat, make their own plans and pay for it, and when the place is sold out because everyone wants a peace of that, they should either learn to enjoy other food/restaurants or starve to death in silence.	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/02/24 08:25 PM
–	Can men just not be loved for who they actually are? Who kicks their kid out when they turn 18? Young men are more likely to live at home. Lots of people. Also do you have stats on that, especially around men to women supporting themselves rate? I'm curious because, when I was in highschool there were probably around 12% of women living with their older boys instead of at home. Obviously since they were highschool students, they didn't have a job and was being supported by their bf. 97% of monies on women's shelters, you are going to have to prove…	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/02/24 08:15 PM
–	Can men just not be loved for who they actually are? What's their general conditions of getting all these social programs over men, who have the same problem? You have two people A and B, both got abused and traumatized by the same person in the same way. A gets almost immediate access to help and funding. Where B gets stuck in the 3 year long wait list to sign up for funding. A is a woman, B is a man, clearly there is a massive difference going on here.	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/02/24 08:12 PM
5	Women preferring to stay single because they don't feel attracted to average men says a lot about their unrealistic expectations Are you going to say "if you are turned off my a 5 foot nothing man, then you probably don't like men"? Same argument, same level of bull shit.	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/02/24 08:05 PM
4	Women preferring to stay single because they don't feel attracted to average men says a lot about their unrealistic expectations All of these posts attacking women for NOT dating men they DON'T want to date are so bizarre ehh, if understand psychology and knock on effects it really shouldn't be. What people find attractive isn't something that set in stone at birth or puberty and is mutable. Part of the problem is women are being told to be picky eaters from a young age. And when someone says "try something, stop being such a a picky eater" they gets slammed for trying to control women. Tldr: Attraction is mutable and you…	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/02/24 08:02 PM
2	Women preferring to stay single because they don't feel attracted to average men says a lot about their unrealistic expectations Last time I checked this wasn't a thing for my parents, which was the "previous generation"... Their parents sure, but 80 years difference is a huge stretch.	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/02/24 07:55 PM
5	Women preferring to stay single because they don't feel attracted to average men says a lot about their unrealistic expectations Gonna be honest, go use male OLD you will see that they aren't even close to the same. With that kind of attitude, it doesn't matter what anyone says your not going to believe them because you didn't want to.	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/02/24 07:52 PM
4	Women preferring to stay single because they don't feel attracted to average men says a lot about their unrealistic expectations The point these guys make is that scores of women are so entitled that they FEEL they are special. I rarelly ever have known a woman who would admit that she is below average, or even average. Ohh watching some of those "stranger rate stranger" street interview videos, and almost anytime a woman gets rates below 7 wrecks the rest of their day. Like they just get so offended.	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/02/24 07:51 PM
18	Women preferring to stay single because they don't feel attracted to average men says a lot about their unrealistic expectations Im not disagreeing with this. But from reading OPs post it's more along the lines of men get shit on for having high standards in a woman (it constantly being blamed on porn and exposer to adult models twisting their mind crap). Where the opposite with women and there high standards isn't applied the same (even when there is very similar mind worping content consumed by women constantly). It's a complete lack of double standard. Though I don't know if they want the standard to apply to both or n…	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/02/24 07:43 PM
5	Women preferring to stay single because they don't feel attracted to average men says a lot about their unrealistic expectations As a woman, do you find more than 20% of the guys you see attractive? See the thing is that's not the only reference on the percentages of men that women find attractive, it's just the most known. There are a number of smaller studies (showing subjects a picture of the opposite sex and asking how attractive they think they are) as well as other apps releasing the wowm to male "like" ratios. Hand down the vast majority agree with the 20% thing. Dating apps are grossly skewed in one direction, whi…	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/02/24 07:38 PM
0	Women preferring to stay single because they don't feel attracted to average men says a lot about their unrealistic expectations Sound like their biggest problem is the fact that there the complete lack of double standard.	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/02/24 07:34 PM
4	Can men just not be loved for who they actually are? What shelter, I can't trust random Internet people but will look it up my self and see how they spend their funding and might donate my self. I only donate to places that spend at least 70% of donations on the "advertised" services.	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/02/24 08:57 AM
4	Can men just not be loved for who they actually are? mothers kill more kids when they are suffering from psychosis or PPD, That doesn't mean they are not a danger to kids, just like how being a angry drunk doesn't make it okay for men to abuse their kids... Also DV that produces severe injury is much more likely to towards women from men. Though this is true, it doesn't dismiss the fact that women will try to do the same or more damage it's just harder for them. Not to mention that since when is it a problem that an abuser does damage instead of t…	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/02/24 08:45 AM
-2	Can men just not be loved for who they actually are? your massive generalization is based on that? as if men don't frequent abandon their kids or beat their wives that they "love unconditionally"? bullshit Oh don't start shit you can't finish. First though some men can be violent, that doesn't mean there isn't love as that's normally part of the problem. Second, Women are leading human cause of infant/child mortality, not men. Lastly, domestic abuse rates of men on women and women on men are about the same.	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/02/24 05:49 AM
7	Can men just not be loved for who they actually are? Bullshit Your seriously calling bullshit on the number of governmental male shelters, you can look that up, Or "women and children first"?	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/02/24 05:12 AM
3	Guys and watching porn I took a peek and it's not a great place. Arguably there is a lot of people that feel like they are at the end of their wits and ranting in the only place that accepts them. But at the same time it's a place where a lot of people who are at the end of their wits (arguably not emotionally sound) can rant and rave in a place accepts them. You never need mod approval to be able to post or comment. It's a anti-anti-safe-space, a place that doesn't allow any form of criticism or push back and only ac…	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/02/24 02:13 AM
1	Guys and watching porn OF literally had a crackdown because the "bad porn" went unchecked for so long it became rampant.	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/02/24 01:46 AM
-5	Can men just not be loved for who they actually are? There are more shelters for homeless pets than shelters for homeless men. California was recently sued because they were spending 97%+ of shelters money on exclusively womens programs. Women are not normally kicked out at the age of 18 where the vast majority of men are. Hell what about "women and children first"... I have a massive list, but being a woman there is almost always a safety net waiting for them. Where if a man fails, he has to pick himself up with little to no help. Edit: lol downe…	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/02/24 01:27 AM
3	As long as men have to face the majority if rejections in dating, most men won’t be able to empathize in a way that women want or expect Engineering and Law are pretty big offenders of this kind of behavior. But it's less because it's a "boys club" and more of an "rich dinosaur club" (ie if your not a rich dinosaur, man or no man, your not going to fit in).	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/02/24 01:13 AM
7	As long as men have to face the majority if rejections in dating, most men won’t be able to empathize in a way that women want or expect Ohh shit, I completely forgot about how the "safe walk" wasn't allowed for men at my university.	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/02/24 01:06 AM
14	As long as men have to face the majority if rejections in dating, most men won’t be able to empathize in a way that women want or expect It's also not one sided and happens to men all the time as well. I'm in STEM and women are 3 times as likely to get a job or promotion over me. Moreover they can get away with knowing way less and still seen as an equal in the position. Not to mention Men in nursing is a Can no one seems to want to open, I think it's something that should be opened. Gender discrimination happens all the time and it shouldn't, but I don't think its recognized that it happens to every gender.	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/02/24 01:05 AM
8	As long as men have to face the majority if rejections in dating, most men won’t be able to empathize in a way that women want or expect That's interesting, what I find most lacking from people is empathy. I agree so hard with a close second being their listening/understand skills, but that goes hand and hand with empathy.	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/02/24 01:00 AM
3	Can men just not be loved for who they actually are? My imagination is better than real life so it doesn't	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/02/24 12:32 AM
-2	If personality is so important, why wont women fall for their male friends more? Welp you seem to short or just daft. There is a phanomnon where the more like a person the less negative traits seem bad and the better positive traits seem better. The is why walking red flag still get dates, because people get interested in them, get rose colored glasses, and can't see the problem. The flip side is also a real occurrence, though not talk about very often.	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/02/24 12:31 AM
3	Can men just not be loved for who they actually are? You argument was arguing about how men (as is the vast majority) here don't like fat woman.... ONE guy is not the vast majority or even the majority, hell it's not even many... One does not mean many, so your "argument" is null and void.	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/02/24 12:28 AM
2	If personality is so important, why wont women fall for their male friends more? Do you want to date someone where you have to ignore some core part of their personality I think you're missing the point. We aren't saying we want them to change, we are saying that their standards sound ridiculously high and we don't want to have to strain ourselves to meet them. Especially when considering the likelihood of them doing the same for us is next to nothing. Do you want to date someone where you have to ignore some core part of their personality But also, I haven't meet a single p…	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/02/24 12:26 AM
–	If personality is so important, why wont women fall for their male friends more? Do you men not understand that you can't be out if you were never in to begin with Are you saying men can't have an opinion about whether or not they would want to consider pursuing someone without that other person being interested? I have heard of some spicy takes but trying to control someones thoughts is a pretty hot one... I, as a man, can absolutely be out (cognitively not interested) in anyone with or without their consent, as that's kind of how individual thought works... Why would I car…	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/02/24 12:21 AM
–	If personality is so important, why wont women fall for their male friends more? You know your a hot mess when no one in this chain tells you to settle, just say they think your impossible to please and they are out, and your response is how "you wouldn't settle because it's your life"... Sound like your saying something because your have something to prove to yourself	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/02/24 11:06 PM
4	If personality is so important, why wont women fall for their male friends more? My point is that these traits or lack their of are seen as a much bigger problem/deal breaker when don't see them as attractive. It's like how quirky and be overbearing and revolting or endearing.	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/02/24 09:28 PM
12	Can men just not be loved for who they actually are? It's funny to me that TRP has started this whole shebang of "women are loved unconditionally" It was actually started around/before Chris Rock said "women, kids, and pets are loved unconditionally, mens are only loved conditionally". This shit has been around for a very long time, way before the Internet took off... Your just hearing about it now because the Internet allows men to talk to each other and express their discontent with the current system.	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/02/24 09:22 PM
2	Can men just not be loved for who they actually are? Definitely not, had more than a handful of who is attractive arguments here because some guys keep pushing "chunky is better" mentality.	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/02/24 09:19 PM
4	If personality is so important, why wont women fall for their male friends more? It's literally the second/third sentence in their comment... I can't find you quirky. There can't be anything about you that l can ignore in you Do I need to take a screenshot or are you just bad at reading...	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/02/24 09:15 PM
–	If personality is so important, why wont women fall for their male friends more? Nice try but it's actually the "I can't find you quirky. There can't be anything about you that l can ignore in you" part that makes them sound impossible to please. It's literally putting them up to impossible standards because they want the perfect person for them. Since if anything is wrong "they can't ignore it" and likewise "can't be with them"... Stop acting like someone is calling "I like my partner to be a be able to clean themselves" as unreasonable. When in reality they are asking for …	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/02/24 09:06 PM
0	If personality is so important, why wont women fall for their male friends more? Ehhh, im old enough and disagree. People like to think they change but they really don't that much.	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/02/24 08:50 PM
2	If personality is so important, why wont women fall for their male friends more? Some negative personality traits are not that problem for friendship but ARE a problem for dating. Some positive personality traits are not necessary for a good friendship but ARE important for a romantic relationship. Finally some differences in values an expectations are enough to block a romantic relationship but not a friendship. You uses the word "some" a lot, it's almost like the lack of attraction drwafs the amount of times where those "having or not having" those traits is a problem...	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/02/24 08:46 PM
1	Do you feel like a lot of redpill or jaded men have undiagnosed neuro conditions? Title only, yes for men and women. At the same time, yes for blue pill wowm/men as well. Continuing at the same time, some or both have valid concerns and experiences. Here in PPD. Na, most are jaded bat shit insane people that probably need professional help.	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/02/24 11:49 AM
–	"more young men struggle because young women are content with staying single" -- except women are actually less single. Bottom line is, they’re not complaining and whining online about being single constantly. M Oh you silly goose, "where are are the good men" movement is literally this, educated career woman complaining on the Internet that there isn't enough even more, than them, educated career men for them to date (because as we know "women don't date down"). Hell it always everywhere where it's "men need to up their game" or "men need to level up". That's literally women bitching being single because not eno…	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/02/24 11:47 AM
–	"more young men struggle because young women are content with staying single" -- except women are actually less single. Made sense to me...	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/02/24 11:43 AM
–	"more young men struggle because young women are content with staying single" -- except women are actually less single. I’d really like to see women deal with the level of loneliness men go through. Having to always do the pursuing and chasing. Getting rejected directly, getting flaked on. Wasn't there one that tried it for a year or two and off'ed herself due to the mental strain and she started to hate women due to the way she was treated by them.	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/02/24 11:40 AM
–	"more young men struggle because young women are content with staying single" -- except women are actually less single. That's not a surprise to find in single women, they are single because they didn't pick any guy. Thats like saying "80% of referees says they award points". Like derp, obviously women who are single are more likely to not be looking for a relationship, like that's why they are single.... If they were looking for a relationship they probably wouldn't be single....	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/02/24 11:37 AM
2	When men call women “illogical,” do they genuinely believe she is literally not following a rationale? They do not agree on the cohesive set of principles. It’s a myopic use of illogic or claims that the other person isn’t being logical. I agree with you on that. They don't seem to want to elaborate why they think those women are being ilogical. I’ll check out the book but I don’t think that book is speaking to the phenomena I’m annoyed by tbh. It's not a book but rather a mathematical field of study.	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/02/24 08:42 AM
2	When men call women “illogical,” do they genuinely believe she is literally not following a rationale? Except I didn't say "if B then A" I said "B is true, if A is true". The order of the words were changed but the logic is the same.	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/02/24 05:05 AM
2	When men call women “illogical,” do they genuinely believe she is literally not following a rationale? Maybe your biggest issue is it's hard for you to comprehend ilogic so you want to everything to have logical to if even if you don't know the rules. Let's take a look at bipolar or borderline personality disorder, I would say that their mod changes are ilogical. Sure the fact that they have mood changes is logical (by the nature that it's a mental condition) but the actual change in their mood and how they behave abd perceive the world around them is not logical. I would recommend you look up Un…	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/02/24 04:53 AM
4	When men call women “illogical,” do they genuinely believe she is literally not following a rationale? Ehh. I do agree what ilogical is over used when in arguments, but I do have a problem with your definition. 1) you have a goal and you’re operating in a way that isn’t conducive to that goal and… 2) …you’re doing 1) without there being any ulterior motivation. See the thing is your definition of logical has logical built into it so it makes sense that you find it rare that something is ilogical. Logic has the definition of "Reasoning conducted or assessed according to a strict set up principles"…	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/02/24 09:14 PM
0	Is there really an epidemic of women divorcing nice guys for no reason ? Oh man, you be dodging the point like Neo with bullets...	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/02/24 08:53 PM
1	Most men are struggling to find their equivalent, which is why TRP has not only spilled over into the mainstream but become common sense Stop mult posted liked that cover the literal same study...	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/02/24 01:26 AM
2	Most men are struggling to find their equivalent, which is why TRP has not only spilled over into the mainstream but become common sense So I’m a woman, as such I know a lot of women, irl and online. Ahh yes the oh so common pitfall. You are "A" women, as in just one, not all. Say it with me now "women are not a monolith". With that in mind, stop thinking all, most or even a minority of women are going to think and or behave like you... Just because you feel and do, doesn't mean other do.	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/02/24 01:24 AM
4	Most men are struggling to find their equivalent, which is why TRP has not only spilled over into the mainstream but become common sense I'm still annoyed that red pill and blue pill isn't the continuation of a Matrix meme... Ya fucked the nice things for no reason.	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/02/24 01:17 AM
2	Most men are struggling to find their equivalent, which is why TRP has not only spilled over into the mainstream but become common sense In research by Mintel, 61% of single women said they were happy with their relationship status, compared to 49% of single men. You know this means that 40% of currently (when the study was done) single women are not happy with being single and wait a relationship, right. Like this isn't 61% of all women, no it's 61% of Single women.	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/02/24 01:14 AM
3	Most men are struggling to find their equivalent, which is why TRP has not only spilled over into the mainstream but become common sense Isn’t that because women on average find peace & fulfillment on their own, whereas men are feeling “incomplete” without a relationship? Sounds like you read one specific study and latched into it, turns out that no that's not widely true. There is not a major of women that are just as content being single than in a relationship.	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/02/24 01:11 AM
1	Most men are struggling to find their equivalent, which is why TRP has not only spilled over into the mainstream but become common sense The main difference is the average man seems to prefer any relationship over no relationship, and the average woman would rather no relationship over a bad one. Gonna be honest, this plays out in way worse ways than you want it to be. For up, I doubt most people, especially men, are even getting to the point of being able to even enter a relationship (bad or good). Generally it requires the women to at least humor the guy exists as a "male" because a relationship. As yes women would much rather …	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/02/24 01:08 AM
–	Female women, why do some of you like to wear extremely tight clothes when going to the gym and complain when people look at it? Generally, that's not an option.	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/02/24 03:33 AM
0	Female women, why do some of you like to wear extremely tight clothes when going to the gym and complain when people look at it? A lot of people have issues with it, which is why a lot of gyms have rules where your not allowed to take your shirt off...	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/02/24 05:39 PM
2	Things are only truly terrible when it happens to women. Ok now cite the study...	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/02/24 08:53 AM
1	Female women, why do some of you like to wear extremely tight clothes when going to the gym and complain when people look at it? but still I don't understand why not just leave it at that. Because of how brain chemistry works. Dopamine, the reward hormone of the brain and is released when you do something that you enjoy, like eating, exercising, and seeing things that are aesthetically pleasing (wheather art, nature, or people). A glance is fine but the ask for no more, is someone literally fighting their brains reward system to not continue looking. Ie it's now unnessassry work and effort someone has to put in because so…	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/02/24 08:39 AM
0	Female women, why do some of you like to wear extremely tight clothes when going to the gym and complain when people look at it? you may need to take a look at yourself and ask, “why?” Really not that hard to answer the question... I don't enjoy seeing that kind of things, especially while working out...	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/02/24 08:33 AM
1	The advice women give to men here is devised to limit their chances So some, others don't even humor irl romantic interaction anymore. To them there is a "time and place for it" and anywhere else is off limits.	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/02/24 08:23 AM
1	Female women, why do some of you like to wear extremely tight clothes when going to the gym and complain when people look at it? Tight clothing (like leggings) "cover" a woman but don't actually cover what she looks like without them (Ie skin tight clothing isn't much less sexual that skin)	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/02/24 01:43 AM
1	Men and women can never truly be equal because women get their rights from men. They're indeed incapable to do such jobs. Do you think women will start going to sewer fixing pipes? Doing dangerous jobs where your life is at risk? I doubt. The alternative is collapse of society, so ye I really do think women will choose a functioning society over gender norms that favor them. The thing is they can currently get away with it because men can step in and do it for them. If there are no men, no one is going to do it but them.	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/02/24 01:28 AM
1	Things are only truly terrible when it happens to women. Instead of actually understanding what I said you chose to strawman me... 👏👏👏 10/10 probably couldn't have had a less intelligent response.	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/02/24 01:25 AM
2	Things are only truly terrible when it happens to women. Or it's less acknowledge. Domestic abuse rates are about even between men and women. Generally speaking women are never taught to never hit a man so a lot do, it's just "a woman could never hurt a big strong man", so it's never really taken seriously. And that's not even considering the fact that women tend to be more psychological abusive.	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/02/24 06:52 PM
2	Things are only truly terrible when it happens to women. Well, when some self reports say 1 in 6 men have had sexual thoughts about a minor and 1 in 10 have acted on those thoughts, Got any sources to go with you claim or 16.6% of men are closet pedos and 10% are active pedos?	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/02/24 06:48 PM
–	Should effort be equal during the dating phase? Is is bumb because it works or because you don't like it. If she can't be bothered to show enough interest in me to continue the dating relationship, why on earth should I continue to do all the work?	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/02/24 06:19 PM
1	Female women, why do some of you like to wear extremely tight clothes when going to the gym and complain when people look at it? Some girls are actually just wearing like a part of cheeky booty shorts and a sports bra and it's hella distracting. You can't tell me someone wearing less that a bikini in the gym wouldn't be distracting. I bet you you would be distracted if a guy started deadlifting in a tight black bikini.	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/02/24 08:14 AM
2	Female women, why do some of you like to wear extremely tight clothes when going to the gym and complain when people look at it? Because the shit end of the stick is an unsuspecting man. It's not like a woman would get any negative side effects from reporting a man that glanced at her, but the man can get kicked out pretty easily. It's like the whole thing of "why do you care if the government can see all of your data, including search history and access your phone at any time, if your not doing anything illegal you have got nothing bto worry about"... Crap. It's when it's missused that we are worried about.	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/02/24 08:10 AM
0	Female women, why do some of you like to wear extremely tight clothes when going to the gym and complain when people look at it? I went to a new gym and the first day some girl told the staff my staring was making her uncomfortable. The gym is like a 100x100ft box with mirrors on all sides, regardless where I look I'm seeing everyone. Regardless I still have no idea who complained.	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/02/24 08:06 AM
1	Female women, why do some of you like to wear extremely tight clothes when going to the gym and complain when people look at it? The ones of us who don't like attention don't like wearing hyper tight or revealing clothes, for starters Depends, the one who actually don't like attraction yes. However there are the ones who like the attention but don't like who given them it, which are the problematic ones.	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/02/24 08:05 AM
1	Female women, why do some of you like to wear extremely tight clothes when going to the gym and complain when people look at it? I went to a new gym and the first day some girl told the staff my staring was making her uncomfortable. The gym is like a 100x100ft box with mirrors on all sides, regardless where I look I'm seeing everyone. Regardless I still have no idea who complained.	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/02/24 08:03 AM
0	Female women, why do some of you like to wear extremely tight clothes when going to the gym and complain when people look at it? I don’t see it as any different from the men who wear cut off tank I also don't think those should be allowed either, especially the deep ducking ones.	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/02/24 08:02 AM
2	Female women, why do some of you like to wear extremely tight clothes when going to the gym and complain when people look at it? Yaa, Lululemon or the individual ass cheek tiktok leggings are not "comprehension" sports wear.	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/02/24 08:00 AM
2	Female women, why do some of you like to wear extremely tight clothes when going to the gym and complain when people look at it? Clothes with compression are better for working out in because it helps circulation performance. There is a reason for tight clothing! This is about as true as the Olympics reason as why women need to wear bikini's to basically every event... unless your wearing medical compression clothes, it's hot garbage... Did you know there is a rule that the athlete's number has to be on the uniform, unless it's in women's sports then it can be on their body. There is literally an exception made for a rule…	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/02/24 07:58 AM
2	Female women, why do some of you like to wear extremely tight clothes when going to the gym and complain when people look at it? I went to a new gym and the first day some girl told the staff my staring was making her uncomfortable. The gym is like a 100x100ft box with mirrors on all sides, regardless where I look I'm seeing everyone. However I still have no idea who complained because I wasn't even looking at anyone (only mid looking people were there). Which reminds me of the blind guy who almost got kicked out of the gym from staring...	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/02/24 07:52 AM
1	Female women, why do some of you like to wear extremely tight clothes when going to the gym and complain when people look at it? I went to a new gym and the first day some girl told the staff my staring was making her uncomfortable. The gym is like a 100x100ft box with mirrors on all sides, regardless where I look I'm seeing everyone. Regardless I still have no idea who complained.	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/02/24 07:50 AM
–	She isn’t “withholding” sex from you. She simply doesn’t feel like having sex. Most women orgasm from clitoral stimulation/oral sex, not PIV like men do. Didn't someone make a post debunking this in the last like 2 weeks. They posted something like 10+ studies that said most women get off from PIV	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/02/24 04:13 AM
–	She isn’t “withholding” sex from you. She simply doesn’t feel like having sex. Withholding sex also means "lack of trust" or "lack of interest". I don't see how men should be okay with their date lacking trust or interest for extended periods of time...	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/02/24 04:10 AM
–	She isn’t “withholding” sex from you. She simply doesn’t feel like having sex. Withholding sex also means "lack of trust" or "lack of interest". I don't see how men should be okay with their date lacking trust or interest for extended periods of time...	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/02/24 04:10 AM
1	the ultimate force that is shaping womens' frustration with dating is the engine of hypergamy raising her standards without her concious awareness It’s just that men have a tendency to fall for female friends without checking for mutual attraction first, and it’s frustrating because women like and sometimes love those male friends who decide that it’s romance/sex or nothing. Let's pick this apart and see if you have any empathy for men. men have a tendency to fall for female friends without checking for mutual attraction first Like with many women, falling for someone isn't a choice they get to make. Sometimes they might notice ahead of ti…	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/02/24 03:59 AM
1	the ultimate force that is shaping womens' frustration with dating is the engine of hypergamy raising her standards without her concious awareness It really funny to me because, though takes a bit of time and effort, understanding one attraction is really pretty simple. I did it and, in general with reasonable time, can explain what I find attractive in each person. I have no idea why women don't do this if they have problems with it. Well I would say I have no idea, but it is a pretty easy thing to figure out, it's a simple they are never forced into understanding it as they can find the next guy they do find attractive in a few swipes.	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/02/24 03:53 AM
1	the ultimate force that is shaping womens' frustration with dating is the engine of hypergamy raising her standards without her concious awareness Just came across a thread in datingover30 where a woman got a promotion a year or so ago and is not losing attraction from her bf and wants him to do more.	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/02/24 03:50 AM
3	women seriously dating men to whom they arent attracted? where? Unfortunately OLD is now the single largest way couples meet each now so it an unavoidable party of dating and reality now.	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/02/24 03:47 AM
7	Things are only truly terrible when it happens to women. We can’t tell who is violent just by looking at men. If most women have suffered at the hands of the violence of men, all men are going to look like perpetrators until proven otherwise. Can you just imagine how irate you and other woman would be if a man said this about women? Maybe even around something like a paternity test. Like do you not understand how offensive that statement actually is?	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/02/24 03:39 AM
5	Things are only truly terrible when it happens to women. Based on that logic "all men are affected by female violence (emotional or physical)"... As "Every man has had to learn behavior to protect herself"... Yes having things in like that you have to learn ways to deal with them is called... Growing up... Cancer has indirectly affected almost everyone on the planet, including me with direct family. However I'm not going to go around saying "Cancer is the cause to my problem, as I have had to deal with it" because I haven't had cancer.	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/02/24 03:37 AM
3	Things are only truly terrible when it happens to women. Have you seen how much attention men who brush their daughters’ hair get? Your tire example is just as ridiculous. Ya I have seen the attention they get, including being accused of being a pedo because they like to spend time with their daughter...	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/02/24 03:30 AM
8	The advice women give to men here is devised to limit their chances Gonna be 200% honest, dating 15 years ago was completely different than it is now, like 90% different. As someone who was dating 10 years ago, that might have worked if the guy could play it well enough, but Now it's not even applicable anymore. Since the prolific use of apps, everything has gone down hill and if a woman is looking for a date, you bet your damnedest that she be talking to at least 5 guys. Becoming her friend first is a one way ticket to get friendzoned because one of those other…	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/02/24 03:21 AM
2	The advice women give to men here is devised to limit their chances Literally why have dating, to get to know them before asking to be in a relationship...	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/02/24 03:17 AM
2	The advice women give to men here is devised to limit their chances Ultimately most of the women I see here are [redacted] or claim to be already married. Moreover I have no idea why married women are trying to give dating advice to men currently trying to date. Thats like a boomer trying to give a millennial on how to work or buy a houses. Like sit down Gramma, if you haven't been actively dating in the last 6 months to a year so don't actually know whats going on.	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/02/24 03:14 AM
26	Men and women can never truly be equal because women get their rights from men. If men as a collective woke up and said, "hey women, you have no rights now go make me a sandwich", then there is nothing women can really do about it. I suspect it would start a civil war, which if you ask me is "doing something about it"...	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/02/24 03:10 AM
7	Men and women can never truly be equal because women get their rights from men. Men, but that doesn't mean women are incapable of doing such jobs, they just don't because they can't get the meat slaves to do it. If the rate of male births started declining, I suspect we would see way more woman fill the dirty, degrading, and dangerous jobs because everyone has to eat.	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/02/24 03:09 AM
1	Should effort be equal during the dating phase? I got tired of constantly looking, gauging enjoyment, and etc as well the rest of the crap. so I play a simple move, "put the ball in her court". if she likes me she can make a move, otherwise I'm just going to move on. Surprisingly it takes a huge load off of having to "perform" (as all guys know they have to ) as the follow up isn't on me.	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/02/24 04:01 AM
4	Should effort be equal during the dating phase? That's actually something I do. I tell the ladies I had a great time and would love to see them again, however I believe in equality and if you (her) want to see me again, your going to have to ask and take me out. Honestly, it really weeds out so many bad ones.	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/02/24 08:27 AM
3	Should effort be equal during the dating phase? Based on title, 200% yes the effort should be equal. Ladies if you don't like it and want to act like a princess, get off your ass and go take over a country so to can be a princess, others your just a normal human being and get act like one of the rest of us normal humans.	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/02/24 08:24 AM
0	Women, when it comes to pressure for you to be a certain way, would you say it comes stronger from men, or women? Which is funny because I see women almost always changing their personalities to get along/other women to like them. Small thing from lying about hobies they like to large things like acting like an extrovert. I think the first part of what you said holds true but not the last part.	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/02/24 08:21 AM
–	Why is it that women are confused about why men don’t want to be open about there vulnerabilities ? If your partner cannot regulate their emotions, leave them if you so desire. Unpopular opinion, I would say most women have difficulty regulating their emotions due to horimones. Just think about how easy it is to make women cry by saying regular normal not insulting/derogatory things. Almost every woman are known gets flustered and overwhelmed pretty easily as well. Though it's not a green check or red X and is more of a scale, some are better than other a4 different things. But it's not someth…	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/02/24 10:35 PM
1	What does the term "man child" exist but not "woman child"? Girl is definitely the colloquial to guy.	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/02/24 08:38 AM
2	What does the term "man child" exist but not "woman child"? Based	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/02/24 08:34 AM
2	What does the term "man child" exist but not "woman child"? I don't think I've ever heard the term "woman child". Why is this? I thought that was called a girlfriend/wife... Jokes aside there are a lot of women would want to be treated very similar to a child with the freedom of an adult.	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/02/24 08:30 AM
1	Why is it that women are confused about why men don’t want to be open about there vulnerabilities ? So you're saying that women aren't disgusted by men's feelings. It really depends on the person and what feelings they expressed, but generally most feelings guys express isn't the problem. (Mind you that most guys don't get to the point of expressing their deep feelings). They just don't understand men's feelings but if the men could express them in a more understandable way, the women would genuinely want to know and wouldn't be turned off? Close but not quite. It's that guys currently have to…	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/02/24 07:34 AM
–	Women on this sub really need to stop calling men who struggle in dating "socially inept" I think that's more to someone bias, both the insane males and females here are equally jacked.	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/02/24 07:11 AM
2	Why is it that women are confused about why men don’t want to be open about there vulnerabilities ? Newsflash. Emotional regulation is something adults should be able to do. Not when is something you have to do for a different person...	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/02/24 07:09 AM
–	Media is not brainwashing young people with blue pilled ideas. To be fair, I literally only hear that from women. So I think it's also a case of women trying to make them self look less shallow.	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/02/24 08:35 AM
–	Fear of men..or fear of consequences? Randomly calling people a psychopath sounds more unhinged than what OP said...	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/02/24 08:32 AM
0	Fear of men..or fear of consequences? I mean "being stabbed by a man" was in there. But again, specifics are irrelevant as it a general concept...	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/02/24 08:30 AM
2	Why is it that women are confused about why men don’t want to be open about there vulnerabilities ? I would disagree, when men express their feelings/emotions they have to do it in a woman women understand or it's wrong and their bad (often getting lumped into man was upset, therefore angry, therefore bad. You jumped to yelling because it proves your point, but most men aren't yelling to express their feelings...). Men don't get to express themselves freely without being penalized for it. The vast majority has to go through a filter so it's expressed in the way women Want it to be expressed. T…	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/02/24 08:22 AM
-2	Fear of men..or fear of consequences? OP gave some examples in the post, but it a It's a general concept thing. So no there is No "specific consequences" as they could very from person to person.	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/02/24 04:04 AM
1	Why is it that women are confused about why men don’t want to be open about there vulnerabilities ? See the thing is from day 1 men are taught and trained of how to understand, interpret, and deal with womens feelings, as failing to do so results in being single for the rest of their life. Again the flip side is not true, some women might learn, but the vast majority of women are not required to understand, interpret, and deal with mens feelings. This leads to men expressing them self in how they feel and women interpreting it in woefully wrong ways and then getting upset at men. My opinion is…	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/02/24 04:01 AM
13	Why is it that women are confused about why men don’t want to be open about there vulnerabilities ? Ehhh, my experience has almost always been "they want to know how you feel in a way they understand". Ie, men have to translate their feelings I to something women understand so women. The flip side almost never happeneds, men have to translate women expressing their feelings into something men understand. See the thing is from day 1 men are taught and trained of how to understand, interpret, and deal with womens feelings, as failing to do so results in being single for the rest of their life. A…	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/02/24 03:59 AM
1	Women on this sub really need to stop calling men who struggle in dating "socially inept" For example the recent survey poll done on this subreddit reveled the average guy here is an adult virgin. Statistical error, well maybe maybe not. I'm a semi frequent user here but was unaware that there was a survey until the results got posted. I suspect, the deeper one is in PPD the more likely to notice/find/and respond to the survey. It gives us a snapshot but it's not concrete evidence. It's like that meme showing survey results of "98% of people love taking surveys".	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/02/24 01:07 AM
8	Women on this sub really need to stop calling men who struggle in dating "socially inept" While not all guys who struggle with dating are socially inept, some guys here are. Though true, here is PPD where there are bat shit insane Internet dwellers, men and women. You kind of just Cherry picked the insane males and ignored the insane females. I chose to avoid them but there are women on here with equivalently insane scenarios.	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/02/24 01:03 AM
1	Women tell men to look for subtle signs to approach, then say those are just women being nice Because it's not what I asked. Which is what I said, I gave you an answer you didn't want. But you have me flack about it. But like you still haven't said how it's not good enough. Your "clarification" is just repeating your first comment and hasn't actually clarified anything at all. What's the end goal ... ? What's the actual end goal ... ? Like these are literally different by one word and you expect that to clarify anything about the question you were asking. Try expressing your self or redu…	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/02/24 12:46 AM
1	Women tell men to look for subtle signs to approach, then say those are just women being nice Answer me how that's not an answer?	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/02/24 11:20 PM
1	Women tell men to look for subtle signs to approach, then say those are just women being nice I did answer your question, It just wasn't the answer your were looking for so you tried to changed the question. My assumption is you want an answer that is in terms of an action, something that it quantifiable. This In general probably to not feel trapped because man is a bad male if they approach and a bad male if they don't approach, etc for all the other shit men are dammed if they do and dammed if they don't. Still answers this question, as it's still the end "actually" end goal and what w…	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/02/24 06:35 PM
1	Women tell men to look for subtle signs to approach, then say those are just women being nice Ye	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/02/24 06:22 PM
2	Women tell men to look for subtle signs to approach, then say those are just women being nice Ah yes because it wasn't a diagnosted condition that means it didn't exist right... I know about 12 adults over 60 who are 100% autistic and not diagnosted. ADHD has actually be tracked to being a positive and theoretical attractive traits back in the days of hunter and gatherer humans, way before the time of the vast majority of conditions and ADHD. Like wise, just because there wasn't a diagnoses doesn't mean it wasn't their. Try using some critical reasoning skills to figure out that "even if…	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/02/24 09:29 AM
1	Women tell men to look for subtle signs to approach, then say those are just women being nice other men opening up about their mental health? Depends on ones environment. But this isn't as bad as women think it is. Generally speaking the older men get the more they are open and accepting of listening to mens mental health. Largely this comes down to two things: First men are more men of action not "just" words. Talking about feelings can help people sort them out but it doesn't fix them, doing something is what fixes them and most men don't want to hear about the same shit over and over …	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/02/24 09:17 AM
-1	Women tell men to look for subtle signs to approach, then say those are just women being nice So you just ignoring what I said for fun or you just can't comprehend what was said?	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/02/24 08:46 AM
3	Women tell men to look for subtle signs to approach, then say those are just women being nice It sounds like in that case he might have waited too long. Did you like even read the comment? How long he waited was never the problem...	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/02/24 08:44 AM
6	How important is penis size in modern dating? Are men getting the wrong ideas about Penis size as a result of porn and vindictive women? So are you saying that women, generally speaking, won't take any offence to being called a bitch, or even hearing other women be called a bitch?	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/02/24 08:42 AM
2	Women punching too high in dating If you ask the 9's fuck Bois and everyone is to scared to approach, so they have to be proactive. Moreover sexually active ≠ relationship	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/02/24 01:49 AM
2	Women punching too high in dating No it is possible, there was a study that found that if your partner thinks you are out of their league you will be happier because they will try harder to not lose you. Likewise the same study found that the league is relative to each person, and for two people to feel like they got a partner out of their league. These relationships succeeded the most often out of all relationships types.	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/02/24 01:46 AM
7	The Data Show that Most Women Can Orgasm from Penetration Alone So then you're just quibbling about statistics I mean that sound like a good enough reason for me.	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/02/24 01:26 AM
14	How important is penis size in modern dating? Are men getting the wrong ideas about Penis size as a result of porn and vindictive women? And metaphors can, are, and have been derogatory. Dick size energy is a derogatory metaphor. Just like "bitch" as it means female dog, it's also a derogatory comment especially to women.	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/02/24 01:22 AM
3	How important is penis size in modern dating? Are men getting the wrong ideas about Penis size as a result of porn and vindictive women? We had black bars installed in owr locker rooms.	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/02/24 01:20 AM
52	How important is penis size in modern dating? Are men getting the wrong ideas about Penis size as a result of porn and vindictive women? Big dick energy refers to confidence and self assurance. Small dick energy refers to insecurity and posturing. Neither one is actually related to dick size. Your joking right, like please tell me you don't see how they are related to the concept of mens dick size, and how big is good and small is bad. Like your literally standing on the line and trying to say your not.	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/02/24 01:19 AM
1	How important is penis size in modern dating? Are men getting the wrong ideas about Penis size as a result of porn and vindictive women? I actually haven't seen that much discourse around dick sizes anymore. Sure there is your "Queens" who demand a trunk and everything else, as well as your "Chad Bro" who claims dick sizes is the end all be all. But in terms of actually discourse, it's just been women making small dick jokes in an attempt to emasculated men they want to bully. There used to be way more discourse around it a decade or so ago.	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/02/24 01:16 AM
5	Women tell men to look for subtle signs to approach, then say those are just women being nice I understand that, and the number of rejects you get by women actually helps you build a hard skill and to not take things personally. It's just the environment is so hostile now that young men trying to grow up can very easily be discouraged or even gain long term mental efforts if the majority of their environment dismiss them and not a real person. So many people don't understand the damage that the current gender divide environment actually does to the young generation. I had the chance to g…	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/02/24 01:12 AM
3	Women tell men to look for subtle signs to approach, then say those are just women being nice Another thing to understand that makes things make more sense is flirting. Flirting is literally the way of ambiguity signaling your interest in another person, while still maintaining plosable deniability.	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/02/24 01:04 AM
3	Women tell men to look for subtle signs to approach, then say those are just women being nice Stay within yours and hers boundaries. ... Did you like not understand the post? The post is literally talking about how there is No clear defined boundaries for "women". Politely and/ respectful for you, her, or a different woman may all be different. But at the end of the day it's the man that gets blamed if a boundary is cross, even if he wasn't aware of it. Quite literally I would say about 20% to 30% of women find the act of a man unsolicitedly coming up and talking to them disrespect and i…	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/02/24 01:00 AM
4	Women tell men to look for subtle signs to approach, then say those are just women being nice Well both of those sound like a you problem, I recommend you try to fix it. Even my gf agrees with you that strangers talking to her make her feel uncomfortable, but at least she has the cents to recognize that ones on her and not them.	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/02/24 12:53 AM
1	Women tell men to look for subtle signs to approach, then say those are just women being nice In general probably to not feel trapped because man is a bad male if they approach and a bad male if they don't approach, etc for all the other shit men are dammed if they do and dammed if they don't.	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/02/24 12:48 AM
3	Women tell men to look for subtle signs to approach, then say those are just women being nice Interesting because I don't think there was a "before autism" as I believe it started when the development of brains... Autism quite literally means non normally developed brain.	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/02/24 12:46 AM
7	Women tell men to look for subtle signs to approach, then say those are just women being nice I also think men neglect to see the third option sometimes. just try walking up to women as humans and speaking to them as if you’re actually interested in who they are as a human. I used to do this just to get over my social anxiety and the number of women that blow you off because "their not interested" or "have a boyfriend" is out of this world, like close to 40% to 60%. (I think there are a number of women who like the idea that they are in hot demand by all men so they play into it even if …	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/02/24 12:35 AM
9	Women tell men to look for subtle signs to approach, then say those are just women being nice Real life women aren't much better. They generally only use their own experience than collect form other women, so their advice ill only really apply to an extremely small minority of women. Moreover if that women your asking already doesn't find you attractive, the other wowm that are her type (because types have similarities) the others are also more likely to not find you attractive.	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/02/24 12:31 AM
0	Women tell men to look for subtle signs to approach, then say those are just women being nice No I actually think the analogy is pretty good. "Only offer me free pizza (has to be the perfect kind of pizza as well) when I want free pizza, or else that pizza is trash and worthless to me". The tldr is women want the have their cake and eat it too.	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/02/24 12:27 AM
6	Women tell men to look for subtle signs to approach, then say those are just women being nice If you two are across the room from each other and she locks eyes with you and gives you a big smile, that's a pretty good sign. I have literally see a case of this where the dude went to approach and got chewed out. Turns out she was watching him from across the room because she thought he looked creepy and was keeping an eye on him, just in case he tried any funny business, and she was smiling so her creepy AF party stalking didn't looks creepy AF.	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/02/24 12:22 AM
3	Women tell men to look for subtle signs to approach, then say those are just women being nice It's not that there is even an inconsistency, it's the fact that women refuse to accept this inconsistency and demand men behave in the way they want (they as is that one ish person)	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/02/24 12:17 AM
9	Women tell men to look for subtle signs to approach, then say those are just women being nice Soo the problem isn't that guys feel like women are colluding together. The problem is that guys can do no right. Ex, f they approach that can be bad and they will be blasted for it, if they not approach that can be bad and they will be blasted for it. It's not that there is even an inconsistency, it's the fact that women refuse to accept this inconsistency and demand men behave in the way they want (they as is that one ish person) Largely women don't call other women out on this and instead sti…	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/02/24 12:11 AM
1	Women tell men to look for subtle signs to approach, then say those are just women being nice Ehhh, in some cases its either they are trying to portray themselves in a better light or incompetence. Like the numbers of women who actually do not care about guys looks (assuming they are still recognizable as a guy) is super low, like less than 10% low. Yet the number of women who say "looks don't matter for women" is way up there into the sky. So like do they not actually understand they they need to be sexual attracted to their partner or are the liying to not sound shallow... I have come …	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/02/24 12:04 AM
-1	Doesn't being "on guard" with all men just drive away good men and leave only predators? Lolol, OP never said any of those... Y'all just making shit up and injecting your ideals into it in an attempt to down play what OP is saying. So way it with me now "women are not a monolith", which means All women will not do the same thing you do. The jumping through hoops is the mental games some women play where it's shit when you ask them out on a coffee and they say no, because she views coffee dates as low effort and that if your really interested in her you need to take her out for dinne…	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/02/24 04:46 PM
1	Doesn't being "on guard" with all men just drive away good men and leave only predators? Generally speaking; because those kinds of people aren't mentally stable, so there is something there that they can exploit...	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/02/24 04:39 PM
1	Doesn't being "on guard" with all men just drive away good men and leave only predators? Have to never been around someone when their own edge? That a pretty common phrase here.	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/02/24 04:38 PM
–	It's totally justified for "nice guys" to feel a bit frustrated. correlation does not equal causation	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/02/24 04:35 PM
–	Do you think the average straight woman feels this way about guys? You neurodivergent?	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/02/24 08:56 AM
–	It's totally justified for "nice guys" to feel a bit frustrated. Single ≠ Not sexual active.	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/02/24 08:51 AM
–	It's totally justified for "nice guys" to feel a bit frustrated. Ever hear of small dick energy, or in general small dick comments? These are make to allude that the guy doesn't get any /can't satisfy a woman. If you ask me, I think your comment doesn't view society well enough. The act of onea sexual activities becomes irrelevant when you realize people don't need to know it to still lable you with it	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/02/24 06:05 AM
–	How hard do short men really have it? Idk, being 5'10" and still being told I'm to short on a regular basis sounds a lot more than just "somewhere in between". Also women want to wear like 4 to 6 inch heels and still have a taller bf, so it's moe like a few inches taller than her in heals.	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/02/24 08:58 AM
–	How hard do short men really have it? Some specific women might not care (and they seem to congregate here on PPD to assure the short kings their height don't matter), One key note on this is I have found what someone says is way different than what someone does. I have met a number of women who say they don't care about hight, but never seem to date one even when they are the better choice. The answer I normally get is that they just didn't find them that attractive, which I guess to women is different from having a problem with sh…	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/02/24 08:56 AM
2	Women safe places on reddit are fucking bullshit and only cause a bigger divide between men and women. You gonna say the same shit about a male survivor of SA, or would you be way more likely to instantly label him as an incel and never look any deeper... Bad experiences doesn't free one from being a bad person...	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/02/24 07:26 AM
–	I feel like women cannot understand the male experience Il spend as much time as is needed to understand the female experience to where the male experience is, so just explain to me the female experience before 10 matches a day and any dates. Men don't understand womens experience because men don't get to "experience" anything but grit. I got 3 matches a month and maybe a date a year.	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/02/24 09:10 AM
–	I feel like women cannot understand the male experience I think they do understand what we are talking about they just don’t care. Oh they absolutely do not, on the ground they when a guy explains how it is for a regular guy they try to reject that notion by attempting to dismiss it by claiming the guy doesn't have the proper game or is in a dry spell, etc. Not to mention that I have seen more than one video where women try mens OLD and the treatment they get drivens them to tears. Women have absolutely no idea what kind of trenches men have to go th…	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/02/24 09:04 AM
1	Every time a male celebrity's nudes are leaked - women and gay men spread it, laugh about it, discuss it, critique it, shame it etc. with zero blowback. What double standard? Cyber bulling or internal billing or people is ethical wrong, regardless of sex or gender. Treating people differently because they are a man or women is letting a double standard exist...	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/02/24 08:55 AM
–	Why do women require bottomless trust from men but don’t give an ounce to us? In general people are risk avoident because they don't want to be the one that end up maime, graped, or dead. Whether or not the or person is ready to go to jail isn't that front of mind.	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/02/24 08:51 AM
–	Why do women require bottomless trust from men but don’t give an ounce to us? I love those stats	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/02/24 08:45 AM
–	Why do women require bottomless trust from men but don’t give an ounce to us? Cool and women have to listen men bitch whine and cry about not getting sex as much as they want it. Even as a guy it’s painful to listen to. Thanks for literally proving my point, it's shit like this which just ads fuel to the fire. Yes there are men who talk about not getting sex and are lonely (ultimately these men need help from multiple different sides instead of just being ridiculed). However did I once bring up sex, No, No I didn't so why did you bring it up. Well because you wanted somet…	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/02/24 08:43 AM
8	Why do women require bottomless trust from men but don’t give an ounce to us? 20 years of someone's livelihood. If we could remove all complications with pregnancies, Do you think the ban on abortions would be okay? I wouldn't because that's forcing someone to make a 20 years long commitment that suddenly make their life revolve around a tiny human, and that considering that it's literally there child. It's not someone else's responsibility to rase your (not actually you) own child. If you (actually you this time) think that it is, you should go out pay child support to s…	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/02/24 09:21 AM
11	Why do women require bottomless trust from men but don’t give an ounce to us? Generally because they overblow their problems while ignoring and blaming men. Let's take for example the crap you brought up. * Domestic abuse happened at equal rates by men and women, but we only really hear and do anything about female domestic abuse. * Men are way more likely to be a victim of a violent crime, yet again we only her women squawking about how scared they are about how they could be attacked. It's like getting punched in the face daily and then seeing and hearing someone else c…	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/02/24 09:10 AM
30	Why do women require bottomless trust from men but don’t give an ounce to us? Ultimately it also depends on how interested they are in the guy, the more interested the less rules. I had a second date once where I made the joke of driving to go see a thing in a different city (about 2 hours away), she said yes she would love too. During the drive I brought up if it's a little risky to have a random stranger you have known for less than 6 hours drive you to a different city away from anyone she knows, what if I'm a murder. Her response was "that's part of the charm".	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/02/24 09:01 AM
14	Why do women require bottomless trust from men but don’t give an ounce to us? I have seen a few where the literal only difference is the genders... Like literally just copy paste switch the gender...	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/02/24 08:56 AM
1	Every time a male celebrity's nudes are leaked - women and gay men spread it, laugh about it, discuss it, critique it, shame it etc. with zero blowback. Some people criticized but it didn't stop the spread." And this is the section I quoted...	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/02/24 08:53 AM
1	Every time a male celebrity's nudes are leaked - women and gay men spread it, laugh about it, discuss it, critique it, shame it etc. with zero blowback. I mean that's one way to take it, if your a horrible person, as that would still be considered ethically wrong.	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/02/24 08:51 AM
1	Every time a male celebrity's nudes are leaked - women and gay men spread it, laugh about it, discuss it, critique it, shame it etc. with zero blowback. If every dude in your radius acted like your job is to fuck them, you'd complain too. According to women this is already the case before any leaks, Soo...	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/02/24 08:50 AM
1	Every time a male celebrity's nudes are leaked - women and gay men spread it, laugh about it, discuss it, critique it, shame it etc. with zero blowback. Ah yes in not the North American market, literally a world apart...	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/02/24 02:54 AM
1	Every time a male celebrity's nudes are leaked - women and gay men spread it, laugh about it, discuss it, critique it, shame it etc. with zero blowback. The majority of redditors didn’t have a problem with it, no. Again, your argument hinges on the idea that the majority of Reddit except I didn't say redditors...	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/02/24 02:50 AM
1	When did we become so entitled? “I’m an attractive, successful, and charming man, so I must be entitled to an attractive woman who will cook, clean, and act like my mother.” This is the shit I see women constantly bitch about, not really any men so it's an odd example. "Where are all the good men" movement is literally a movement of women who are accomplished and successful high achievers with their specific lifestyle, who are constantly bitching that they can't find a man who is and equal or greater accomplished successful ac…	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/02/24 02:12 AM
1	Every time a male celebrity's nudes are leaked - women and gay men spread it, laugh about it, discuss it, critique it, shame it etc. with zero blowback. You’re letting your biases affect your memory because this is not true. So your trying to tell me the majority of people didn't have a problem with a bunch of womens nudes getting leaked?... Okay sure call it bias or what not, but I don't know a single person that wouldn't criticize it, especially my female friends, but sure it has to my bias... Not immediately. Depends what you mean by immediately. Generally speaking information has a travel speed so no they can not act within a split second. B…	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/02/24 09:04 AM
2	Every time a male celebrity's nudes are leaked - women and gay men spread it, laugh about it, discuss it, critique it, shame it etc. with zero blowback. What about Taylor Swift, and she didn't even have real leaks. People treat if differently when they shouldn't be.	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/02/24 08:58 AM
2	Every time a male celebrity's nudes are leaked - women and gay men spread it, laugh about it, discuss it, critique it, shame it etc. with zero blowback. I feel like women care more about their nudes than men due. The most any guy is going to do is bust a nut and get back to what ever else he was doing.	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/02/24 08:56 AM
3	The problem with dating advice today is that people are seen as trophies rather than investments This is such a cop out because it's ignoring the fact that is a real thing that happens to people. People are a construct of their experiences wealth or not they get married in the future.	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/02/24 08:54 AM
1	Every time a male celebrity's nudes are leaked - women and gay men spread it, laugh about it, discuss it, critique it, shame it etc. with zero blowback. Generally speaking because way to many people think it's okay to treat unsolicited leaking of nudes of men and women differently.	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/02/24 08:51 AM
2	Every time a male celebrity's nudes are leaked - women and gay men spread it, laugh about it, discuss it, critique it, shame it etc. with zero blowback. So what's your answer?	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/02/24 08:50 AM
4	The problem with dating advice today is that people are seen as trophies rather than investments No one leaves at the first bad time. A number of people absolutely leave at the first sight of bad time. The lot of the time it's people that haven't been forced to deal with any "said" hard time so they just bail. Emotional unavailable people are are one of the first kinds of people that come to mind that do this. Anytime anything happens where emotions have to be communicated and deal with, this people just jump ship.	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/02/24 01:46 AM
2	Every time a male celebrity's nudes are leaked - women and gay men spread it, laugh about it, discuss it, critique it, shame it etc. with zero blowback. Are you telling me your response to the fappening is "Shitty people exist, news at 11"? Women having their most intimate moments and parts unknowning exposed for hundreds of millions of people to gock at, and your just going to tell them "Shitty people exist, news at 11"?	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/02/24 01:07 AM
7	Every time a male celebrity's nudes are leaked - women and gay men spread it, laugh about it, discuss it, critique it, shame it etc. with zero blowback. See your missing the point. It's not that some people partake, it's that people's reaction are like this "extremely dismissive". The fappening not news coverage reddit and Twitter were banning accounts left and right. Your response amounts to "shitty people gonna be shitty, so what". But can you reasonably say you would say the same thing if a female celebrity's nudes got leaked.	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/02/24 01:04 AM
0	Every time a male celebrity's nudes are leaked - women and gay men spread it, laugh about it, discuss it, critique it, shame it etc. with zero blowback. Women view unsolicited sexuality as bad. Talking and judging people behind their backs is just a Tuesday for way to many women. This relentless mocking isn't sexual so it's okay for them to just cyber bully people.	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/02/24 01:01 AM
3	Every time a male celebrity's nudes are leaked - women and gay men spread it, laugh about it, discuss it, critique it, shame it etc. with zero blowback. There are a couple dozen celebrities that started in softcore porn, hundreds more who have had their tits out on screen. It's not nearly as big of a detriment as you want it to be.	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/02/24 12:59 AM
1	Every time a male celebrity's nudes are leaked - women and gay men spread it, laugh about it, discuss it, critique it, shame it etc. with zero blowback. I didn't even know they got their nudes leaked.	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/02/24 12:58 AM
9	Every time a male celebrity's nudes are leaked - women and gay men spread it, laugh about it, discuss it, critique it, shame it etc. with zero blowback. When in the modern age has a female celebrity been canceled over their nudes being leaked?	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/02/24 12:51 AM
21	Every time a male celebrity's nudes are leaked - women and gay men spread it, laugh about it, discuss it, critique it, shame it etc. with zero blowback. Some people criticized but it didn't stop the spread. An overwhelming majority criticized it with reddit banning any sub that allows it to remain. A number of Subs literally went dark (mod approved only posts) for a few days over fear of some random posting a celebrity nude and the sub being wiped...	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/02/24 12:49 AM
1	Men have "fetishes", women merely have "preferences" Why on earth are you looking up colloquial word usages in the DSM?...	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/02/24 04:23 AM
4	Men have "fetishes", women merely have "preferences" Sweet and caring refer to personality traits and don’t contribute to objectification. The order is important	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/02/24 10:40 PM
1	Men have "fetishes", women merely have "preferences" Your thinking instantaneous vs how things related and shape each other.	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/02/24 10:39 PM
0	Men have "fetishes", women merely have "preferences" Sounds like you have absolutely no understanding of psychology...	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/02/24 05:37 PM
6	Men have "fetishes", women merely have "preferences" I would argue that women make men act like they need women. Any guy knows that slowly feeling out the relationship and making the same level of effort to reflect the level of the relationship, would end in having no relationships. Just look at how many women are offended at a coffee/tea + walk date. To them is shows a lack of interest and effort in them and why would they want to try with a guy who isn't already invested in her...	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/02/24 05:26 PM
11	Men have "fetishes", women merely have "preferences" Because Women don't really talk about men a different way. Almost every woman who is after specific traits almost always starts with those traits when describing said guy. (Ie "he's tall, handsome, sweet caring, etc"). Objectification is still objectification.	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/02/24 05:22 PM
4	Men have "fetishes", women merely have "preferences" Yes it can be.	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/02/24 05:19 PM
5	Men have "fetishes", women merely have "preferences" Just looked up the definition and it doesn't have to be sexual	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/02/24 05:17 PM
9	Dependability: Female Mate Selection The number of women that actually give up on requirements just to have a guy with money is something that is under estimated by women. Literally like 20% of my female friends highschool life plan was "find a surger daddy". This doesn't even include the number of stores of women hating their own environment because they didn't want responsibility. A lot of women pick money over other things because they believe it will lead to an easier life. But your right, a lot of women will pick guys with tra…	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/02/24 05:48 AM
1	Is it wrong to "settle" because you can't get what you really want? There is clearly a communication issue here, settling can have a huge rage from "I couldn't get my ideal so I'm just picking food" to "il take anything even if 8 don't like it".	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/02/24 09:26 AM
2	Is it wrong to "settle" because you can't get what you really want? When you love someone, you not only want what is best for them, but you want them to get what they want from all of their relationships. Though I agree with this statement, there is a lot more that goes into it than just love. Relationships are meant to be about love. But this statement and any lack of qualifying "love" makes it feel like your way to deep into Hallmark movies. Love is a slow burning ember that needs to be stoked but has always kept you warm.	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/02/24 09:20 AM
0	Is it wrong to "settle" because you can't get what you really want? Because I know it will be all over this thread compromising is a form of settling. People have problems recognizing that compromising is a form is setting, to them settling has a negative connotation, and compromising feelings like meeting somewhere in the middle. Point blank to compromise is to settle.	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/02/24 09:10 AM
2	I don’t understand, it seems like women don’t have to do much work or “real” work to become attractive/ have sex with atrractive men she’s attracted to and sexually attracted to Women actually have to do quite a lot o become attractive, it's just most men don't see it. This is why women take such offensive when a "man" comments on their looks. However with that said, most women don't need to do that much to be considered cute enough, as most men don't actually need a "babe".	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/02/24 04:33 AM
1	Who are the type of young women who date older men? Most women I knew when I was early 20s were chasing hot college boys. I’ve personally only seriously dated guys younger than me, so things are changing As someone who always seemed 5 to 10 years older that I am, I always got rejected who any women found out my age (it was like a light switch), so good on you, I'm glad. However your still in the minority by a massive amount.	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/02/24 04:31 AM
2	We do not live in a “hookup” culture and the amount of casual sex going on is grossly exaggerated I think it was different is the thing. Back then people largely knew how to stand up for them selfs, in the modern day they don't. Take for example the rapid growth in situationships, sure they exist back then, but the expectation was if someone isn't asking you out then they don't really want you. Modern day takes the approach of have a hookup with the same person a few times and then see if you two are compatible buy one of you asking the other out. Women don't feel rejected when guy sleeps wi…	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/02/24 07:54 PM
0	Who are the type of young women who date older men? Most women I knew when I was early 20s were chasing hot college boys. I think your completely missing the fact that older men literally means "older than her", not grampas age. I'm general when people say around X they mean give or take in either direction. Take for example shopping "get around 2lb if ground beef". However when women talk about the age of a guy it's doesn't mean the same thing, as it translates into "at least older than her". Shit like being an hour younger than her is generally off limits and not accepted. This leads women to push the "take" part…	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/02/24 07:49 PM
1	Is the online dating phenomenon reflective of real life? Most women are not on dating apps. The figures regarding online dating are often conflated to interpret 'met online' as 'met online on a dating app.' which is false. Someting like 10-20% of women use dating apps. Considering something like half the population is married, that's like 20% to 40% of "single" women, which is a fair amount.	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/02/24 03:32 AM
1	Is the online dating phenomenon reflective of real life? Hypersexuality is can actually a symptom of hormones being out of balance.	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/02/24 03:30 AM
1	Is the online dating phenomenon reflective of real life? I would argue that it's irrelevant if it's compatible to the outside or not, as the fact I'd the matter OLD is a intrinsic part of modern day dating so it has to be relevant. The fact of the matter is that OLD is the single largest way couples meet each in the modern day and it's effects can be felt across the whole market. Before when you wanted to meet someone you would go the bar, club, event, etc. Now most women considered it harassment because they just want to do their thing they are their…	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/02/24 03:25 AM
0	Switching around "Commitment" for "Sex" may allow more empathy between the sexes? Literally control, no. Figuratively, which is what every is talking about, yes they do. You should probably stop shouting so you can sit down and listen to what everyone else it actually talking about.	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/02/24 03:16 AM
–	Men on this sub are probably below average which is why they are struggling Many men have buddies they do shit with and go on vacation with. In the UK it's common for lads to have holidays together like Spain/Ibiza where they just drink/take drugs all day and try to pull chicks. Obviously it gets less frequent once they hit their 30s due to people settling down but they still have that friendship group they meet up with to catch up and have drinks together. Your describing a guy I know who definitely isn't average. He works in STEM, makes pretty good money but not huge,…	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/02/24 09:48 PM
–	Men on this sub are probably below average which is why they are struggling From London to Madrid is about 1000 miles or about a 18 hour drive. From New York City to Miami is about 1300 miles or about a 20 hour drive (which isn't even half way across the country, and are both on the east coast) For scale; Alabama is bigger than England, Montana is bigger than Germany, and Texas is bigger than France. The USA is about the same size as all of Europe at about a third of its population. Travel is also not as unified as much in the US as it is in Europe, which makes travel m…	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/02/24 09:28 PM
–	Men on this sub are probably below average which is why they are struggling I don't think you will find statistical data on what it means to be an average man. Maybe not a "average man" and going off of looks, but there is census data all over the place.	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/02/24 09:15 PM
3	How are average looking men in this day and age supposed to meet women? Sex for how easy it is to meet girls is a extraordinarily bad metric.	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/02/24 06:34 AM
3	How are average looking men in this day and age supposed to meet women? If you actually read the comment it said "a guy"...	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/02/24 06:32 AM
9	How are average looking men in this day and age supposed to meet women? It's the falicy that a failing guy has to be less than average because they view guys that have some amount of success as average, thus anything less than that is less than average. Thereby completely ignoring the fact that those guys are better than average.	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/02/24 06:37 PM
11	How are average looking men in this day and age supposed to meet women? You can request your data from dating apps(thanks to EU laws). r/dataisbeautiful has a number of people posting you their data.	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/02/24 06:32 PM
13	How are average looking men in this day and age supposed to meet women? It doesn't matter if it's skewed or not as that's how the peoples experience is at the current time.	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/02/24 06:31 PM
4	How are average looking men in this day and age supposed to meet women? By average do you mean 7/10's the non-linear average or 5/10 the linear average, because 7/10s do okay on Old, 5/10s are a different story.	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/02/24 06:04 PM
15	How are average looking men in this day and age supposed to meet women? Oh Shit you just went straight into fantasy land.	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/02/24 06:02 PM
9	How are average looking men in this day and age supposed to meet women? but definitely not impossible for an average guy. The moment when you felt like you had to include "definitely not impossible" means your comment is more of an encouragement rather than an observation that OP is wrong. Winning the lottery is "definitely not impossible" but the vast majority of people don't.	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/02/24 05:59 PM
1	Women will reject or lose interest in a guy for the most frivolous reasons, and then completely rule him out no matter what he does to redeem himself It doesn't have to be the majority to be unavoidable.	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/02/24 08:08 AM
1	Why do older women not understand that most guys who end up with younger women are just playing the odds? Okay but that still means that women tend to look for older men as partners.	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/02/24 05:07 AM
1	Why do older women not understand that most guys who end up with younger women are just playing the odds? Okay... I literally have no idea what your trying to claim here.	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/02/24 02:54 AM
1	Women will reject or lose interest in a guy for the most frivolous reasons, and then completely rule him out no matter what he does to redeem himself In terms of dating, yes. Largely the same thing applies to women explaining men vs men explaining men, in terms of attraction. The thing is what people what and what people find attractive are two completely different things. Often they overlap, but that means we just have to be more careful to not confuse or conflate the two	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/02/24 02:44 AM
1	Why do older women not understand that most guys who end up with younger women are just playing the odds? is not over 5 years like you suggested either. I neither claimed or suggested that this is the average or is fact. I merely started my anidontal experiences, which should not be taken as a claim or fact. Hell they were even in different paragraphs, so i don't know why you coalesced them together. not maths isn't your strongest subject is it. Ya, so umm I see English wasn't for you, so let's take this quote apart, together. "Age gap relationships are generally more accepted with an older man than…	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/02/24 02:35 AM
1	Women will reject or lose interest in a guy for the most frivolous reasons, and then completely rule him out no matter what he does to redeem himself I personally don't think he wants an individualised answer. I think he wants a generic "why is this a thing" and "why are people so against admitting it's a real thing". It's a question for him to gain a better understanding, not advice.	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/02/24 02:23 AM
1	Why do older women not understand that most guys who end up with younger women are just playing the odds? I will concede to you on this point. But I feel like it feels worse for the guy because "people's concerns" are voiced as personality attacks and character assassinations against guys.	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/02/24 02:21 AM
4	Why do older women not understand that most guys who end up with younger women are just playing the odds? Okay but that about the fact that most women go after older guys. Oh, it's not a fact "Age gap relationships are generally more accepted with an older man than a woman, with 8% of all married heterosexual couples involving an older woman and a younger man." Literally the first bit of text in your source, like that's for helping me proof How Much Of A Fact it is.... At 8% of relationships having older women (which is a lot lower than I actually expected). If you want to start proving people wrong…	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/02/24 02:17 AM
1	Women will reject or lose interest in a guy for the most frivolous reasons, and then completely rule him out no matter what he does to redeem himself it just means women are rejecting men over many frivolous reasons instead of one. I would argue if it's possible for them to do it for many that also makes it possible for them to do it or just one. But more importantly I feel like they are trying to explain away the issue because the issue is irrational in nature, and it's just mentally easier to deny the possibility of it happening then try to seek an understanding and explanation. (Ie, if people even did just accept it, their default answer w…	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/02/24 02:04 AM
2	Women will reject or lose interest in a guy for the most frivolous reasons, and then completely rule him out no matter what he does to redeem himself This is such a cop out to ignore the possibility of irrational behavior...	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/02/24 02:03 AM
5	Women will reject or lose interest in a guy for the most frivolous reasons, and then completely rule him out no matter what he does to redeem himself Not OP but. The ich is used to describe an Instant turn off, like a turn off that suddenly be completely the biggest deal breaker. You could be dreamily staring at them with rose colored glasses for hours at a time only for you to see them "put on their seat belt". Then blam, poof, all the "happy I'm into you feels" are gone. It actually can be a bit more lose in its definition. But it generally revolves around someone doing some that "romanticly/emotionally gross them out. (Like some who is pic…	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/02/24 02:01 AM
3	Women will reject or lose interest in a guy for the most frivolous reasons, and then completely rule him out no matter what he does to redeem himself What you have done here is use a falicy to try to win an argument. See you have replaced the argument of "small insignificant things turn off women, why?" to "women get turned off, why?". The answer for the second one is super obvious and stupidity easy to say, but the answer to the first one is much more complex and requires multiple different levels of understanding.	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/02/24 01:59 AM
1	Women will reject or lose interest in a guy for the most frivolous reasons, and then completely rule him out no matter what he does to redeem himself Ya but thats not just what it means to a wider population, maybe just you. Vibe is more a nuonce feel, that's why you see so many posts about "the guy checks every box but I just don't vibe with him". It's the nuonce (hard to quantify) qualities of people. To some people this means sense of humor, hobbies, common interests. To other is can mean level of excitement, physical and sexual attraction, the almost unnoticeable changes in their facial expressions, etc. It's just as vague as the term "th…	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/02/24 01:56 AM
1	Women will reject or lose interest in a guy for the most frivolous reasons, and then completely rule him out no matter what he does to redeem himself I don't, especially since your on the spectrum diverse reasons from multiple different angles and viewpoints may be hard to understand, especially if they don't conform to a set of logic or rules.	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/02/24 01:49 AM
2	Women will reject or lose interest in a guy for the most frivolous reasons, and then completely rule him out no matter what he does to redeem himself Since it doesn't matter what anyone says because they will just get told "they read the signals wrong". For shit and giggles, let's just say it was by divine reasoning.	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/02/24 01:47 AM
1	Women will reject or lose interest in a guy for the most frivolous reasons, and then completely rule him out no matter what he does to redeem himself Okay but let's talk about the statistically unlikely scenario, because that's what OP wants to talk about...	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/02/24 01:45 AM
1	Women will reject or lose interest in a guy for the most frivolous reasons, and then completely rule him out no matter what he does to redeem himself Notice how it's not the ick that they are fighting but the irrational rejection that they are fighting. It's because the girl lots interest in you for some that would be irrational to lose interest in someone. Because it's irrational those who can not understand (aka a lot) simply turn off their brain and seek to explain it via rational means (aka "she was never interested" or "you just miss read the situation").	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/02/24 01:44 AM
3	Women will reject or lose interest in a guy for the most frivolous reasons, and then completely rule him out no matter what he does to redeem himself Studies have literally proven that the antidotal experience of a woman doesn't explain or account for "women"... Sooo no they wouldn't be. It also highlights that men aren't so good at explaining men either (those men can be pretty simple so they have higher points in explaining men). Men study women to be able to be with one. Women study men to be able to be with one. As the yee old talk goes "don't ask a fish for advice in finishing".	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/02/24 01:40 AM
3	Women will reject or lose interest in a guy for the most frivolous reasons, and then completely rule him out no matter what he does to redeem himself Cops and Army people generally have higher mental health concerns.	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/02/24 01:36 AM
10	Women will reject or lose interest in a guy for the most frivolous reasons, and then completely rule him out no matter what he does to redeem himself It's always really funny watching the difference between guys and girls doing real life tinder. The girls one is just her regularly swiping right and left. The guys ones are normally so hesitant and always apologizing, saying "this sucks so much" and "I feel like a bad person".	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/02/24 01:36 AM
0	Women will reject or lose interest in a guy for the most frivolous reasons, and then completely rule him out no matter what he does to redeem himself The ich is used to describe an Instant turn off, like a turn off that suddenly be completely the biggest deal breaker. You could be dreamily staring at them with rose colored glasses for hours at a time only for you to see them "put on their seat belt". Then blam, poof, all the "happy I'm into you feels" are gone. It actually can be a bit more lose in its definition. But it generally revolves around someone doing some that "romanticly/emotionally gross them out. (Like some who is picking their n…	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/02/24 01:26 AM
1	Women will reject or lose interest in a guy for the most frivolous reasons, and then completely rule him out no matter what he does to redeem himself The problem is it's not in a lot of cases.	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/02/24 01:19 AM
5	Women will reject or lose interest in a guy for the most frivolous reasons, and then completely rule him out no matter what he does to redeem himself Unless your realistically saying regular guys have a dating pool of every woman on the earth, your missrepresenting this. Generally speaking most people's dating pool is limited to their city. In my case 2 million people is the closest city, with half being women, and half of women being in relationships the approximate new value is only 500k. That doesn't even include shit like age (35% ish are younger than 35 ish), so 175k. Then we need to include stuff like attraction, personality and hobbies…	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/02/24 01:15 AM
-1	Women will reject or lose interest in a guy for the most frivolous reasons, and then completely rule him out no matter what he does to redeem himself As I see your not one to frequently message women, because that's most of them... It's the same shit with "double texting", go look that up as it's a hoot.	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/02/24 01:05 AM
1	Women will reject or lose interest in a guy for the most frivolous reasons, and then completely rule him out no matter what he does to redeem himself Your weren't better than the other guys she was seeing l	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/02/24 01:04 AM
2	Women will reject or lose interest in a guy for the most frivolous reasons, and then completely rule him out no matter what he does to redeem himself Okay but what about the rest of the women kind, take a look at the askwomen ick thread. Yes y'all have it where you really weren't into the guy but to invalidate and dismiss actual real events that occur is kind of just rude and no different from shit like Redpill. Some times some women were completely into you and then the guy does one thing wrong and then blam, all of that interested disappears.	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/02/24 01:02 AM
2	Women will reject or lose interest in a guy for the most frivolous reasons, and then completely rule him out no matter what he does to redeem himself As others have noted, such women were probably not into a guy in the first place. I feel like that's a massive cop out and doesn't actually seek to find an understanding of the situation. It could be as you said, she was living in a male believe world and that "one" thing snapped her back into reality. However it could also be that she made up a persona of someone and wanted to date that instead of a the real person. There are Sooo many other options than "she just isn't that into you".	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/02/24 12:55 AM
2	Why do older women not understand that most guys who end up with younger women are just playing the odds? Like a guys intent is actually considered to most of these people that have a problem with this.	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/02/24 12:52 AM
1	Why do older women not understand that most guys who end up with younger women are just playing the odds? I my opinion people often don't just voice their thoughts on how her decision is stupid, more often they voice their opinion on how predatory the guy is.	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/02/24 12:51 AM
5	Why do older women not understand that most guys who end up with younger women are just playing the odds? People care when it's a 35 year old man dating a 25 year old woman.	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/02/24 12:49 AM
2	Why do older women not understand that most guys who end up with younger women are just playing the odds? Ultimately is comes from the fact that men are considered predators unless they prove otherwise. This pairs up with the fact that women have probably had to deal with a few creeps in their early adolescence (leaving a pretty long standing imprint). So when you put the two together, women automatically assumed the worst and that your one of those creeps from their childhood past just acting on another defenseless girl.	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/02/24 12:42 AM
0	Why do older women not understand that most guys who end up with younger women are just playing the odds? Okay but what about the fact that most women go after older guys. Why is that number considered in these situations?. Like all the matches I have had dates with have their minimum age for guys set to be at least 5 years older than them.	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/02/24 12:38 AM
–	Women base most of their “preferences” on trends and what is popular, and are far more influenced by what other women think than even their own instincts - the whole 6 foot thing is a perfect example That is completely correct. That's why it is based in volume not actual bra size. Based on the chart provided, a guy saying he like C cups the best means he approximately likes boobs that are close to the same size of a Apple. Apples sizes don't change based on ones band size. A regular Apple is always smaller than a regular Melon. Etc.	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/02/24 12:30 AM
1	Women base most of their “preferences” on trends and what is popular, and are far more influenced by what other women think than even their own instincts - the whole 6 foot thing is a perfect example It's a lose measurement and obviously smaller frames are going to look like they have bigger boobs, but this chart is a pretty okay starting point. https://bellatory.com/clothing/bra-cup-size-comparison-to-fruit	/r/PurplePillDebate	31/01/24 09:24 PM
0	How come it is almost never considered that a guy can develop feelings for a woman he is friends with and that he just became friends to get into her pants? It's worse in friend circles that office life. A guy can very easily go to being partially excluded from friendship stuff because her knowing (and questioning his motive for everything he does, and did do in the past) makes her uncomfortable.	/r/PurplePillDebate	31/01/24 09:09 PM
1	Women base most of their “preferences” on trends and what is popular, and are far more influenced by what other women think than even their own instincts - the whole 6 foot thing is a perfect example I have no idea what's your asking?	/r/PurplePillDebate	31/01/24 08:57 PM
1	How come it is almost never considered that a guy can develop feelings for a woman he is friends with and that he just became friends to get into her pants? Whatever shame comes from the internet is mostly something people are looking for or putting themselves out there themselves, expecting to be free of judgment Most people aren't putting them selfs out on the internet expecting to be judgment free, most of the situation is someone else putting them on the Internet expecting hash judgment. This is paranoia. Most people don’t need to worry about the internet causing them to lose their jobs or their life. ... Oh a hell of a lot of people are absolut…	/r/PurplePillDebate	31/01/24 08:54 PM
2	How come it is almost never considered that a guy can develop feelings for a woman he is friends with and that he just became friends to get into her pants? The majority of opinion and hate come from the Internet. People lose their jobs and get death threats because of the Internet. As much as people don't want to acknowledge it because it so toxic, the Internet is part of reality and there is No escaping it.	/r/PurplePillDebate	31/01/24 09:07 AM
4	How come it is almost never considered that a guy can develop feelings for a woman he is friends with and that he just became friends to get into her pants? The majority of opinion and hate come from the Internet. People lose their jobs and get death threats because of the Internet. As much as people don't want to acknowledge it because it so toxic, the Internet is part of reality and there is No escaping it.	/r/PurplePillDebate	31/01/24 09:07 AM
0	How come it is almost never considered that a guy can develop feelings for a woman he is friends with and that he just became friends to get into her pants? So you like their personality and you find them sexually attractive how can you not have romatic feelings ? Your seem to have a misunderstanding that like and not like is on a scale of "yes" or "no"... Sorry to burst your bubble but no that's not how personality grading works. The two girls I am interested are the ones that I think work well with my personality and feel like would help support me. If your stuck in the realm of not understanding nuonce or personalities, 8m sorry to information yo…	/r/PurplePillDebate	31/01/24 09:04 AM
1	How come it is almost never considered that a guy can develop feelings for a woman he is friends with and that he just became friends to get into her pants? Having close friendships outside of romantic relationships is healthy, and I’d argue key to maintaining good dynamics within your romantic relationship too. Okay, no one said to Not do this. And you haven't said anything again having your partner as your best friend. So what is the point of your comment...	/r/PurplePillDebate	31/01/24 09:00 AM
7	How come it is almost never considered that a guy can develop feelings for a woman he is friends with and that he just became friends to get into her pants? "You need to try to catch feelings" is the gotcha, lots of people don't. I'm one of them where if I have to change who I am (aka try extra stuff) I can't develop feelings. I have to complete organically deploy feelings by watch and experiencing someone else's good personality. Eventually I will understand that I have some feelings (it's like charging a friendship bar and when full, starts filling the feelings bar). I can stop it by not interacting with them, but no like I said, most people can't…	/r/PurplePillDebate	31/01/24 08:59 AM
3	How come it is almost never considered that a guy can develop feelings for a woman he is friends with and that he just became friends to get into her pants? It can't be all that loving if you can't even detect how interested she'd be. Different definition. Love is an emotion, and other people thoughts are irrelevant to ones emotions... Love is also usually something which is mutual and not one sided. Ah yes I'm sorry I made up the term "unrequited love", it's not like there is a whole definition for it and hundreds of Internet pages on it... If your going to try to make shit up, at least make it harder to not prove you wrong. Love can absolutely be …	/r/PurplePillDebate	31/01/24 08:49 AM
2	How come it is almost never considered that a guy can develop feelings for a woman he is friends with and that he just became friends to get into her pants? For me it was every couple to few years. I think it's normal and don't know why women are so offended by them being so wonderful that men can't help but fall in love with them. As a consolation prize, literally just existing as a male makes you inherently creepy so it stop mattering what you do so do what you want. Seriously guys get called creepy for their face shape of hair cut. It's such an over used word it's losing its meaning.	/r/PurplePillDebate	31/01/24 08:44 AM
1	The Best Way To Meet Women Based On Your Personal Attributes. (Statistics) On a non-linear scale (logarithmic) 7 is about average. Moreover humans find rating qualitative things hard to rate on the linear scale.	/r/PurplePillDebate	31/01/24 04:43 AM
5	How come it is almost never considered that a guy can develop feelings for a woman he is friends with and that he just became friends to get into her pants? No people, especially on the Internet, absolutely lash out at men for being romanticly attracted to their female friends. It's not even r\niceguys but just people assuming the guy has malicious intent theo whole time. As OP said, the reaction is as if it's impossible for guys to develop feelings during a relationship so he had to have a alternative motive the whole time while being friends.	/r/PurplePillDebate	31/01/24 04:39 AM
0	How come it is almost never considered that a guy can develop feelings for a woman he is friends with and that he just became friends to get into her pants? Because lust isn't love. I have about a dozen females friends that I think are hot enough to sleep with. I could see my self developing feelings for only 2 of them.	/r/PurplePillDebate	31/01/24 04:37 AM
3	How come it is almost never considered that a guy can develop feelings for a woman he is friends with and that he just became friends to get into her pants? I would argue they should be the same goal. Being in a relationship with someone your not friends with sound like why everyone is getting divorced and is so bitter at their ex's	/r/PurplePillDebate	31/01/24 04:35 AM
2	How come it is almost never considered that a guy can develop feelings for a woman he is friends with and that he just became friends to get into her pants? but it isn't generally seen a malicious. How long have you been on the Internet for, clearly not very long. It's almost always viewed as malicious.	/r/PurplePillDebate	31/01/24 04:34 AM
5	How come it is almost never considered that a guy can develop feelings for a woman he is friends with and that he just became friends to get into her pants? I'm guessing it's advice women have given your or attractive guys. Ultimately it falls into the same trap of women want guys to approach them but at the same time women don't want guys to approach them. Unpacking that, it's actually women want guys they would be interested in approaching them and guys they are not interested in not approaching them. Like wise, the silent language of women kind is at play again. It's women what you to make friends with them first, and only it they are interested …	/r/PurplePillDebate	31/01/24 04:27 AM
9	How come it is almost never considered that a guy can develop feelings for a woman he is friends with and that he just became friends to get into her pants? Okay but that doesn't answer why the reaction is so hostile to them guy. Like a standard rejection should be fine, but no they have to go after an character assassination...	/r/PurplePillDebate	31/01/24 04:21 AM
4	How come it is almost never considered that a guy can develop feelings for a woman he is friends with and that he just became friends to get into her pants? I mean though true, it's still worth a shot. The guy is either getting into a relationship or leaving the friendship (I know women are pissed at men that these are the only two outcomes). See the thing is being with your love when it's one sided is arguably the worst kind of torture that exists. Staying in the relationship and not saying anything is super duper unhealthy for anyone. Especially considering that those guys are relegated to "listen to her talk about other guys" section of the frien…	/r/PurplePillDebate	31/01/24 04:15 AM
6	How come it is almost never considered that a guy can develop feelings for a woman he is friends with and that he just became friends to get into her pants? So you just turn it off and on, or do you do extra shit like distance your self from them? Because the vast majority, like 98%, of people can't do the first one. The second one is much more reasonable, but also not just "I don’t catch feelings for people I don’t want to catch feelings for"...	/r/PurplePillDebate	31/01/24 04:10 AM
0	How come it is almost never considered that a guy can develop feelings for a woman he is friends with and that he just became friends to get into her pants? I think you successfully lied to yourself about what a healthy relationship is. Your partner should be able to be your best friend....	/r/PurplePillDebate	31/01/24 04:07 AM
1	How come it is almost never considered that a guy can develop feelings for a woman he is friends with and that he just became friends to get into her pants? Honestly that sounds like he either is desperate and lonely, or he has an extremely good friendship vetting process. I would say its not fair to assume negative without the context of time. A new romantic interest once a month, sure dude needs some help. But once a year, sounds pretty okay to me.	/r/PurplePillDebate	31/01/24 04:06 AM
11	How come it is almost never considered that a guy can develop feelings for a woman he is friends with and that he just became friends to get into her pants? A lot of it has to deal with how dumb people are, the vast majority of people can not compartmentalize different feelings. Moreover to protect their world views, their critical reasoning skills take a nose dive. In the case of developing romantic feelings during a friendship, women feel like they let their guard down (because your a friend) only for you to be interested (like every other guy where motivates are always questioned). Not only do a number of women struggle with having male friends (…	/r/PurplePillDebate	31/01/24 03:48 AM
0	How big of a concern would it be for you if your children/potential children reached adult age without any romantic success? when that is exactly what they said So you wouldn’t even care to ask your daughter about her dating experiences because, statistically her biological sex is unlikely to struggle in dating? Please quote me where they said exactly that they "wouldn't care to ask"... I don’t think I can reasonable foresee a person who says shit they don’t mean especially online that I don’t know. If I knew someone then maybe I could understand what they meant without them saying it explicitly but even then I’d ask …	/r/PurplePillDebate	31/01/24 01:42 AM
1	How big of a concern would it be for you if your children/potential children reached adult age without any romantic success? I mean it's meant as a joke. But a large number of women on this sub refuse to believe that other women don't fine everything they find creepy as creepy (or heaven's forbid some women find it actually attractive). I'm actuality I find women largely don't consider what other women find creepy or attractive unless at poler ends of the spectrums.	/r/PurplePillDebate	31/01/24 01:38 AM
-1	What is the actual reason why men get shamed for having preferences? Ahh, na they were pretty normal guys, definitely not obses. But yet they were shamed for not wanting to date her. It's not like most people even think about if they are a good match or not before wanting to date someone.	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/01/24 09:06 AM
1	Women base most of their “preferences” on trends and what is popular, and are far more influenced by what other women think than even their own instincts - the whole 6 foot thing is a perfect example Ahh you were making a joke around the weird AF ratio system. Ya it's weird AF and jank AF as well.	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/01/24 09:03 AM
1	What is the actual reason why men get shamed for having preferences? I have seen guys get shamed for not wanting fat girls, and I mean like an extra 100lb of fat extra. If you ask me, wanting something in the realm of a healthy weight is realistic... The translation of the situation allows abouts to his preferences of not wanting to date someone who is obese, ends up hurting her feelings (rejection hurts under any circumstance) and so he has to be shamed by the other women because "how could he, she is more than just a body"...	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/01/24 08:59 AM
1	What is the actual reason why men get shamed for having preferences? Which isn't uncommon	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/01/24 08:57 AM
0	What is the actual reason why men get shamed for having preferences? Those men get told they are lieing and the real reason they want a younger woman is because he wants to control her, or other crap, etc.	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/01/24 08:54 AM
1	What is the actual reason why men get shamed for having preferences? Most people don’t hate on preferences provided they aren’t given unsolicited and / or they are done in a respectful way that doesn’t demean those outside of their preferences. This is absolutely correct. However the problem is that most women don't find mens preferences "respectfully" because they view it as a slight in them... It really doesn't matter how they express it.	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/01/24 08:53 AM
7	How big of a concern would it be for you if your children/potential children reached adult age without any romantic success? That kind of just sounds like something you injected just so you could be mad. Sure he didn't say he would have sit downs and open conversation, but he also didn't say he wouldn't. You just assumed the worst, full stop.	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/01/24 08:44 AM
1	How big of a concern would it be for you if your children/potential children reached adult age without any romantic success? Last time I checked with the women in this sub, all women are the exact same because they can't find different things attractive and/or creepy.	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/01/24 08:41 AM
1	Women base most of their “preferences” on trends and what is popular, and are far more influenced by what other women think than even their own instincts - the whole 6 foot thing is a perfect example I'm am, and most men are, completely aware of this. However I don't think that many women are.	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/01/24 08:38 AM
1	Women base most of their “preferences” on trends and what is popular, and are far more influenced by what other women think than even their own instincts - the whole 6 foot thing is a perfect example You do realize that the "tag" system is the ratio system right? As is, not anything different from what I said...	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/01/24 08:33 AM
-1	Women base most of their “preferences” on trends and what is popular, and are far more influenced by what other women think than even their own instincts - the whole 6 foot thing is a perfect example How is that any different from what I said?	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/01/24 10:40 PM
1	Why do women seem to get "the ick" over the most innocuous things these days? It's not that it's new, it's that it's become so prevalent	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/01/24 10:39 PM
1	Why do women seem to get "the ick" over the most innocuous things these days? The ick was a thing before tiktok	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/01/24 10:38 PM
3	Why do women seem to get "the ick" over the most innocuous things these days? Though some of this is true. I have actually found the ick stems from the guy failing to meet or exceed expectations. We all know when women get interested in a guy, they kind of fon over them and build up this image of who that guy is in their head (and romanticse about it). When a guy does something the breaks that illusion is when the itch occurs. I have great knowledge in this as I look like a heartless guitar player who will ignore your texts just to get a rise out of you. When in reality I…	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/01/24 10:31 PM
1	Why do women seem to get "the ick" over the most innocuous things these days? The majority or men don't care about body count (assuming it not something extraneously high), most women absolutely care about a nerd boy who buys all sorts of nerd toys and "plays make believe"	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/01/24 10:26 PM
2	Women base most of their “preferences” on trends and what is popular, and are far more influenced by what other women think than even their own instincts - the whole 6 foot thing is a perfect example If that's the case then why did dating apps like Bumble move the height filter to be in the paid tier? The fact of the matter is over 80% of women set the height filter to be 6'+. (FYI, the free tier only allowed two filters to be applied at a time, so this show how much women actually care).	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/01/24 10:12 PM
2	Women base most of their “preferences” on trends and what is popular, and are far more influenced by what other women think than even their own instincts - the whole 6 foot thing is a perfect example The problem is that in this day and age with dating, most women don't see men as a possible interest until after they judge them as a set of numbers.	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/01/24 10:10 PM
-1	Women base most of their “preferences” on trends and what is popular, and are far more influenced by what other women think than even their own instincts - the whole 6 foot thing is a perfect example Not that it's relevant in any way shape or form. Let me just bring up that men bra sizes for women are different from womens bra sizes for women. Women use the weird AF ratio system (aka a B cup could be bigger than a D cup). Men use the fruit system (where each cup size correspons to a volume, which is linked to fruit sizes for simplicity).	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/01/24 10:07 PM
2	Women base most of their “preferences” on trends and what is popular, and are far more influenced by what other women think than even their own instincts - the whole 6 foot thing is a perfect example I mean as much as you want to pull the rug out from under OP, they do have a point. Internet trends do influence who people find attractive because any in influence can make people want or not want things. This is why big influencer actually make a good amount by doing brand deals. You can't realistically tell me that you don't thing internet trends have absolutely little to no influence on who people want to associate with and likewise be with.	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/01/24 10:03 PM
-1	Women base most of their “preferences” on trends and what is popular, and are far more influenced by what other women think than even their own instincts - the whole 6 foot thing is a perfect example Ehh, his face is to small for his head and makes him look a bit weird, his mouth in particular doesn't look like it should be his. The rest of his features aren't anything to call out either mostly just normal looking eyes, eyebrows, forehead, and nose. The only thing he really has going for him is his face shape (it's very square/rectangular) and his jawline. I suspect if he didn't have as defined jawline and square/rectangular lots of his "attractive" qualities would vanish. Like wise if he wa…	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/01/24 09:53 PM
1	I genuinely think people underestimate female toxicity PPD is a debate sub, not a echo chamber Congratulations, you managed to have poor compensation so let me say it one more time. Toxic behavior is ALWAYS TOXIC, regardless of who, when, where, and why, Full Stop... TwoX, PPD, FDS, Redpill, tiktok, and so many more places are Not exempt from this Fact... It doesn't matter what type of sub it is.............	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/01/24 07:19 PM
1	I genuinely think people underestimate female toxicity I mean, what ever you choose to believe.	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/01/24 07:07 PM
1	I genuinely think people underestimate female toxicity To some degree, I did ask you if the male version of twoX existed and you came back talking about "killing and promoting underage sex", which is clearly a misdirection. I asked about a male version of TwoX, exactly the same just genders reversed. So unless you believe TwoX does those things, then you shouldn't have brought them up. If your not going to take me seriously, then I wouldn't take you seriously.	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/01/24 07:05 PM
2	I genuinely think people underestimate female toxicity It’s not what I want to believe, it’s what I seen with my own eyes. We all know the kind of shit they were posting Which is.... Believing what you want to believe... Like that one is a no brainier and literally the same thing.	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/01/24 07:02 PM
1	I genuinely think people underestimate female toxicity Again you keep missing my point, twoX is a place for woman to vent their personal experiences. Again, your missing the point that I understand that. But that doesn't make it any less toxic of a place... PPD is a place where people vent their problems but it's also toxic AF... Like your so focused on the "attack" and "defending" twoX that your completely ignoring what I'm saying. Toxic behavior is ALWAYS TOXIC, regardless of who, when, where, and why, Full Stop... TwoX, PPD, FDS, Redpill, tiktok,…	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/01/24 08:42 AM
1	I genuinely think people underestimate female toxicity You are exactly cherry picking your data. Lolol. No cherry picking the data is literally picking out the data that you want to include and ignore the rest. In this case, we literally don't have data because you refused to run the test. I literally can not cherry pick the data if there isn't any data to cherry pick from. Like if you're going to use words to ignore something, at least use the correct words...	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/01/24 08:40 AM
0	I genuinely think people underestimate female toxicity if TwoX was posting all these stories about bad things people do, but it was entirely stories about women, would it still be okay? They were banned because they started promoting violence against woman and underage sexual, Wow, I thought twoX was bad but now I think It shoul get removed from Reddit, especially since your telling me they are promoting violence against men and underage sexual...	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/01/24 10:04 PM
1	I genuinely think people underestimate female toxicity They were banned because they started promoting violence against woman and underage sexual, let’s get that straight firstly. No a lot of them weren't, that's just what you want to believe. If there was the exact opposite sub as TwoX on Reddit it would have been removed ages ago. You can't tell me that you truly believe all the followers of TwoX and other female subs wouldn't spam reddit to take it down, let alone that reddit would even allow it to stay up. Hell reddit the company has even made p…	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/01/24 09:56 PM
1	I genuinely think people underestimate female toxicity Why would you ask a sub full of woman who have been hurt by men who they think the most hurtful people are? Talk about cherry picking the data you want. just because I have a good expectation on what the outcome of the test is, doesn't mean cherry picking the data. I even gave the reason why I feel like it would be a fair test. "Being a bad person is gender irrelevant, thus people should experience bad behavior from men and women equally". It's not a shit test because it shows you what my point …	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/01/24 09:36 PM
-1	Why are so many men subservient to their wife/gf? Everything I've said has been directly related to what you've said Fundamentally directly related, yes. But I ask for coherent conversation which is above related... Directly related is literally the bareist minimum there is for communicating... So your gonna have to do better than that.	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/01/24 09:27 AM
2	I genuinely think people underestimate female toxicity I'm on mobile (mobile doesn't have copy paste post titles) so I'm not going to type out 15 or so thread names. Not to mention, it really doesn't matter what I write out, unless there are some that are directly bashing men in the title. Your going to believe what you believe and dismiss the rest. The fact of the matter remains that twoX is an eco chamber. But I do have (from a different comment) this search term on the numerous threads of women on 2x who think and want others to use over generali…	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/01/24 09:25 AM
6	I genuinely think people underestimate female toxicity You mean like all of these threads bitching about how they want to and other should use over generalizing terms... https://np.reddit.com/r/TwoXChromosomes/search/?q=not+all+men&type=link&cId=d7aa27b5-dc58-4754-b404-91b95b596bfa&iId=bdd2c242-96db-4a6d-a199-555f06317b2c	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/01/24 09:22 AM
2	Why are so many men subservient to their wife/gf? Unless I see a comment from u/SlothMonster9 posting a their article source, it kind of seems like @SlothMonster9 is being nefarious	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/01/24 09:18 AM
-2	Why are so many men subservient to their wife/gf? Lol, are you actually able to hold a coherent conversation because so far you just keep throwing disjointed insults.	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/01/24 09:09 AM
0	Why are so many men subservient to their wife/gf? That’s a good question. The first issue is how would we get answer? Surveys? Census data? If stats exist, that’s the most logical place, to source an answer. Ultimately it was more of a thought provoking question rather to one we have an answer for, or even able to get an answer for. But it's something we should always take into consideration, "who is more easily made not happy, as the opposing side is going to have to compromise more".	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/01/24 03:18 AM
0	Why are so many men subservient to their wife/gf? It makes definitive claims about most women. I don't know now many times I have reread the post and it doesn't make definitive claims about women. What it does say is that when there are women that behave in certain ways. The biggest difference is these "definitive claims about women" aren't definitive or claims, they are just an observation or an implied claim that Some women can behave like that. So if your so upset, can you tell me with absolutely certainty that there are absolutely no women …	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/01/24 03:12 AM
2	I genuinely think people underestimate female toxicity My Gf's brother got arrested because of this shit. His gf went off her meds and came at him with a knife and he had to defend himself. Because he is physically stronger he smacked her and managed to get in and lock himself in the bedroom and call the cop. However a big strong man left a mark on a week defenseless women, he was arrested for domestic abuse. The fact that she had a knife and came after him was ignored because he was never hit by the knife even though she swung. As a man there is no…	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/01/24 03:04 AM
1	I genuinely think people underestimate female toxicity Non of this should be a reason why to ignore or dismiss toxic/bad behavior or accept others toxi/bad behavior.... If you think it is, your part of the problem.	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/01/24 02:57 AM
1	I genuinely think people underestimate female toxicity I just looked at the top 15 under popular and 13 are about men, with about 8 being massive negative ones.	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/01/24 02:53 AM
1	I genuinely think people underestimate female toxicity but thats not what their doing Oh I'm sure a number of their users do. However let's turn it 180 here Let me ask you this: if TwoX was posting all these stories about bad things people do, but it was entirely stories about women, would it still be okay? Your answer is almost irrelevant because a number of these subs have already existed and been banned by reddit.	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/01/24 02:34 AM
2	I genuinely think people underestimate female toxicity They are actively spreading their hatred of woman by making extreme generalisations as if it was the norm Oh you mean just like twoX....	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/01/24 02:32 AM
1	I genuinely think people underestimate female toxicity Lololol only agreeing with violence against women but ignoring general violence...	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/01/24 02:31 AM
3	I genuinely think people underestimate female toxicity With how the gendered social environment developed, I'm sure it has gotten much worse and super interested in a modern repeat of this study.	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/01/24 02:28 AM
3	I genuinely think people underestimate female toxicity In general toxic things that women do. Just like how toxic masculinity is toxic things men do. If you want to be more selective, it's toxic things that people do that are linked to being a woman, and via vers for toxic masculinity. For example, things like * being openly derogatory or violent to men because "your (not actually you) a woman and he is a scary man, you (not actually you) can't hurt him". * Making comments about other womens looks, style, or figure. * Making comments like womwn shou…	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/01/24 02:21 AM
4	I genuinely think people underestimate female toxicity Oh imagine the firey hell that would occur if men were bitching about All the work it is to be a SAHF...	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/01/24 02:02 AM
1	I genuinely think people underestimate female toxicity Their not making sweeping generalisations of hate Though that might be true in the intentions, in reality it become an eco chamber for women who have had negative experiences around men, which generally leads to them not wanting empathy for men. The outcome isn't much difference than redpill circles who don't like women. I just popped into twoX since it's been a while and cam across a thread bashing/against people saying "not all men". The whole thread was about how they shouldn't have to say "n…	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/01/24 01:52 AM
6	I genuinely think people underestimate female toxicity It's the constant portrayal that men are monsters unless proven otherwise, which fuels it. Since men are automatically assumed to be monsters, any women to is acting bat shit insane to a man is automatically assumed to be acting in good faith against a monster. A few researchers wanted to take a look at the "women is wonderful, man is monsters" effect, and had a fake couple pretend to abuse each other (in turns) in public. Obviously when the man was yelling bypasses stepped in almost immediately…	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/01/24 01:41 AM
0	I genuinely think people underestimate female toxicity One thing you have to consider is the avenue they were bullied though. Men will typically be physical or pretty direct with their actions, which means literal "trust" isn't something that may get called into question. If you know Randy is going to punch you every time you walk by him, there really isn't a breach of "trust". Where I find women are way way less physical and direct. They use things like starting rooms, picking verbal fights over random things, talking behind your back, etc. The con…	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/01/24 01:33 AM
1	I genuinely think people underestimate female toxicity Yes but no. Just because it starts concentual doesn't mean it remained concentual. There are a non insignificant number of posts about "my wife won't go back to work" or "how do I get my husband off my back about going back to work" all over the place. All of these posts generally amount to people having kids and them agreeing that the wife can stay at home and look after them for the first few years, as to not have to pay for childcare. Only for the wife to not return to work after the kids get…	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/01/24 01:24 AM
9	Why are so many men subservient to their wife/gf? Yet another "why are women bad" "discussion" post for men to jerk off over Saying women can be bad in any form doesn't mean the topic is about how women are bad. If you reread the post with an ounce of comprehension, you will very easily find out that it's about "why so many men accept this kind of bad women behavior"...	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/01/24 11:00 PM
-1	Why are so many men subservient to their wife/gf? What study is that, I would love to take a look at it because it doesn't reflect other peace of information that I am aware of.	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/01/24 10:55 PM
3	Why are so many men subservient to their wife/gf? But in reality who has to compromise more often? A relationship based in compromise doesn't indicate that it's even and fair.	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/01/24 10:53 PM
3	“genuinely kind guy” is a rebrand of the “nice guy” What's funny is because the term "nice guys" only really kicked off as the delusional version after r/niceguys. Before it really only ment guys who are nice but don't have any charisma (aka are boring). Which is where the "nice guys finish last" saying comes from.	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/01/24 08:48 AM
6	Is there a Lizzo Paradox™ for males? Why is the thought they just don't look like that person so hard to accept, Exactly, that's what I'm saying and can't understand how so many people are just that daft. Why say someone is attractive when you get offended that someone says you look like them, just don't say they are attractive when you don't think they are. Like honestly, not a hard ask. But you know some people are just bat shit insane.	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/01/24 08:45 AM
–	Why do most of the women don't date younger? Got any good papers on that, because from what I can find out womens collage level are only affected during menopause.	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/01/24 08:26 AM
1	Why do most of the women don't date younger? I would look like mom as we age faster lol Your first comment is literally about how women age faster... The topic is literally about aging... Man I knew this sub was full of some weird people, but I didn't expect this level of delusional.	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/01/24 06:57 PM
1	Why do most of the women don't date younger? If you think STEM isn't concrete then I don't know what you would consider concrete...	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/01/24 06:40 PM
–	Why can't women take an L? Has nothing to do with being a sex worker Ya I honestly have no idea why you brought that up because I didn't. You just kind of interjected it in and are not hard core tunnel visioning on it. So like, if you want to try again without completely derping it up you more than welcome to, otherwise I'm going to write you off as lost cause.	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/01/24 08:45 AM
1	Why do most of the women don't date younger? Depends, if you actually interested we can take a look at the standard deviation.	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/01/24 08:43 AM
–	Why can't women take an L? The entire point of having some one rate them selfs it to see if they "bad bad" or "good good"? Forgive me but I don't understand how your trying to twist "rating your self" as someone else's power play. Do you have the same option when someone asks you to rate your skills at something?	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/01/24 08:41 AM
–	Why can't women take an L? This isn't about humility, this is about humiliation. 200% this is where you problem lies, not once in my life have I seen this question asked when it wasn't an introspection into humility... So you think its about humiliation and therefore think everything around it is also about belittling and bullying, rather than the actual more useful applications. It's not about the numbers, it's about trying to humiliate women or make them submit. Personality speaking, I use the 1 to 10 scale all the time…	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/01/24 08:14 AM
–	Why can't women take an L? Whose type? Lmao i never claimed to be a 10 to anyone except maybe my husband lol I'm sorry I use general metaphors without directly calling them out, I didn't this I had to go to that extent. Just because one their type, still don't make them a 10/10 for them.	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/01/24 08:11 AM
–	Why can't women take an L? Because the vast majority of women are exceedingly offended at any time their physical appearance/attractiveness is commented on, especially if in any form of a non-positive (yes non-positive, not even negative but just non-positive). Even in the video the women were offended when the women rated herself lower because they can implicitly compare their physical appearance to some who said they were lower. People really only get that offended when they feel like it's something attacking a core par…	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/01/24 07:50 AM
1	Why do most of the women don't date younger? Your telling me female babies turn 1 earlier than male babies... Man I knew this sub was full of some weird people, but I didn't expect this level of delusional.	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/01/24 07:33 AM
1	Why do most of the women don't date younger? Sorry if I expected a cognitive ability over 8th grade, my bad	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/01/24 07:31 AM
–	Why can't women take an L? You have an employee number though right, why doesn't you just quit you job because you hate numbers so bad.	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/01/24 12:39 AM
–	Why can't women take an L? There is a step of psychology involved where when someone rates them selfs they are displaying critical reasoning and critical analysis skills. Rating your self at Anything higher than you should be can make you look egotistical, condescending, and dilutional (Ie it calls your character in to question). I suspect men have a way higher problem with the overrating, not because there are too many 10's but because it makes it look like there are too many egotistical dilutional people. And the men do…	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/01/24 12:31 AM
–	Why can't women take an L? I never thought I was actually a 10 or expected other people to think I was. It’s kind of an affirmation thing, like when you give yourself a pep talk and try to convince yourself that you are confident. Wouldn't you (women at large) want to give you self affirmation/pep talk about things that don't involve your body? Like all this talk about objectifying women and their bodies and how bad it is, yet women developing the habit of giving them selfs, or others, affirmation about their physical app…	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/01/24 12:22 AM
–	Why can't women take an L? Let's tackle the bigger issue here, why do you feel like you would get treated like shit because you not rated at a 10/10? Why is 6 or 7/10 not goo enough?	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/01/24 12:15 AM
–	Why can't women take an L? Let's tackle the bigger issue here, why do you feel like you would get treated like shit because you not rated at a 10/10? Why is 6 or 7/10 not goo enough?	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/01/24 12:13 AM
–	Why can't women take an L? There is a step of psychology involved where when someone rates them selfs they are displaying critical reasoning and critical analysis skills. Rating your self at Anything higher than you should be can make you look egotistical, condescending, and dilutional (Ie it calls your character in to question). I suspect men have a way higher problem with the overrating, not because there are too many 10's but because it makes it look like there are too many egotistical dilutional people. And the men do…	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/01/24 12:10 AM
–	Why can't women take an L? Just because your their type, still don't make you a 10/10 for them. Which is what most men are bitching about "not being a 10/10 is basically meaningless. Hell even being a 6 or 7 out of 10 is really the only thing you need". It's the fact that women care sooo much that they are viewed at the Top of the Top which drives people insane. Like they aren't the absolute best athletes, they aren't the absolute best employee, they are the absolute best friends, and like wise they aren't the absolute mo…	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/01/24 12:06 AM
–	Why can't women take an L? Or women could get self-esteem and employment form something that doesn't revolve around their body...	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/01/24 12:03 AM
–	Why can't women take an L? How would your rating make him feel superior??? Like this isn't a competition between you and him. But judging by your comment, I think you feel like it is.	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/01/24 11:34 PM
–	Why can't women take an L? saying "I'm a ten" is just about as close as you can get to saying, "fuck you and your vile rating system" But if you think I plan to put a number on it so you can scoff at me or pat me on the head for being a good woman, you've got another thought coming. Ya know men get raited on a scale of 1 to 10 (or 1 to 3) all the time. A reduced metric on someones physical appearance isn't the end all be all, in fact it means very little in the big picture. One of the big things is that humility and accep…	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/01/24 11:30 PM
–	Why can't women take an L? Honestly I think in a difference in the rating scales men and women use, they are just to different. Men use a scale from 1 to 10; 1. being bottom of the barrel 10. being cream of the crop. Women use a scale from 1 to 3. 1. Noticably unattractive 2. Invisible 3. Noticably attractive So when women convert their scale to the regular math scale 3 becomes a 10 (or in rare cases 8 or 9, but never less.)	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/01/24 11:10 PM
-3	Why do most of the women don't date younger? I mean there is a form of deeper thought and analysis which considers multiple aspects about an existing or theoretically relationship and what the positive are as well as the hold ups/problems would be (aka critical reasoning and incite). You on the other hand have had one negative experience and have sworn off every single other younger guy. Which is like having one bad cheese burger and then saying "welp cheese burgers suck so much ass, never going to eat another one, ever".	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/01/24 08:41 AM
0	What do you think is the cause for this to happen? Ah so making shit up and autistic screeching is the name of your game... Kool. So I'm going to leave so people don't try to associated me with you.	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/01/24 08:36 AM
1	Women on Reddit do not represent normal, every day girls and so the dialogue and “blue pill” opinions here are irrelevant to most men I'm not sure why the data that's just from the US is more relevant, since there's people here from all over the world. Ehhh, yes people from all over use reddit and this sub, but largely the sub is used by people from North America https://www.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/s/mvSBMK19Ar	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/01/24 02:16 AM
2	What are things you hate about other women? It's an echo chamber, women can freely say "all men suck" out and public and no one bats an eye at them. Well maybe some men might bat an eye but they definitely aren't going to do anything because they men, and if anyone is getting shit on their face it has to be the guy. (Just look at the stats on when a guy report DA (or something) and how often the guy gets ask leave etc. It's not that rare for a guy who calls the cops after being abused to them get arrested for being "abusive"...)	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/01/24 01:29 AM
0	Why do most of the women don't date younger? Got proof that women age faster, because last time I checked, while taking care of your self, men and women age at the same rate.	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/01/24 01:18 AM
2	Why do most of the women don't date younger? There is no real proof that men mentality mature slower than women.... Thats a myth that comes from the fact that women start physical maturing sooner than men. However past age of adult hood, that no longer has any barrings.	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/01/24 01:13 AM
2	Why do most of the women don't date younger? I would recommend not judging people before getting to know them. They may be the same age as your brother but that doesn't mean they will behave the same.	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/01/24 01:10 AM
5	Why do most of the women don't date younger? Sample size of one I see.	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/01/24 01:07 AM
5	Why do most of the women don't date younger? Ehhh, it might be a chicken and the egg problem. I fancy older women, but know for a fact that I was more likely to approach a younger looking woman over an older one because my chances of being completely blown off by the older women is like 99% Is it actually because most women don't reciprocate with younger men, that the men just go elsewhere where their chances are higher?	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/01/24 01:04 AM
2	Why do most of the women don't date younger? This kind of makes sense, are you saying it's just a maturity thing because most of the younger guys I know that like older women are more mature than someone 10+ years their age. Or it's it more that women find the maturity attractive, assuming its paired with the look to match? It's just interesting because you were against younger men until you got baited in dating one who looks older. Antidotally, My experience has been to just stop telling people my age and let them guess forever. I was 20 …	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/01/24 12:59 AM
2	"They're only being nice because they want sex" - yeah, and there is nothing wrong with that I honestly don't think most men are making friends with women just to try to have sex with them. In fact I think very few men are doing that. I don't know how you got that notion but you should probably touch some grass	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/01/24 12:50 AM
5	Women on Reddit do not represent normal, every day girls and so the dialogue and “blue pill” opinions here are irrelevant to most men I don't know where you got your "facts" from or why your trying to use the "global rate". The autistic rate is around 3% and 17% for other neurodivergent development conditions, with men being 4 times more likely to be afflicted. https://www.cdc.gov/ncbddd/autism/data.html And let's not ignore the fact that men who are considered social awkward, with or with our any condition, is at a disproportionally large disadvantage than women with the same social awkward affliction.	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/01/24 12:39 AM
1	What do you think is the cause for this to happen? I don't think you understand how a debate sub works, especially around gendered issues as the vast majority is literally just speculation....	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/01/24 12:21 AM
1	What do you think is the cause for this to happen? Okay show me your evidence.	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/01/24 12:19 AM
1	What do you think is the cause for this to happen? are very individualized experiences with only half the made up story. There are patterns in everything, very little behavior is on an individual unique basis. In this case my irrational hate is for being asked No one told you to read the post, no one forced you to respond to it. Unfortunately for you, this one is all on you. You could have just as easily backed out of the position and carried on with your day... baselessly speculate Read some papers, read some case studies, read some experience,…	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/01/24 06:08 AM
2	What do you think is the cause for this to happen? Ahh yes the yee old "let's ignore the argument at hand". The actual question is "in situation where it seems like the man is bending over backwards to make his wife happy, why does she still leave him?"...	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/01/24 06:04 AM
1	Why I believe Men are unsympathetic towards Women's grievances in dating. Y’all constantly say women have way more options than men, but you have nothing to base this on except some men using data in a bad way and dating apps. (Which are filled with bots and scammers which skew results anyway). I mean the date has come out across multiple different platforms over the past 2 ish decades and it still hasn't changed. Not to mention all of the time women have tried male dating apps and were appalled. Or all the guys that used women dating apps and were amazed. Or in gener…	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/01/24 05:58 AM
2	Why I believe Men are unsympathetic towards Women's grievances in dating. Women can get SEX more easily, not relationships Depends, women get SEX more easily but they don't get relationship from those men as easily. The key part here is women filter out the vast majority of guys (like at least 98% of them, including the one who want to have a relationship) so ya the best few guys left are not going to want to have a relationship. If factor in maybe even 10% of guys, their chances at getting a healthy relationship sky rocket (assuming they have a range of taste and not…	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/01/24 05:47 AM
1	Why I believe Men are unsympathetic towards Women's grievances in dating. I'm general, younger women are either considered more attractive or they haven't picked up all the bad "vetting" habits (that don't actually vet anything) and are actually just more of a pain in the ass to deal with. In short why be with someone your own age when they demand you have a recent car, own your own home, and get a promotion every 3 years. When you can instead be with a girl that is happy you watch movies with her and take her out to the bar during drinking night with the guys. Seems …	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/01/24 05:32 AM
1	Why I believe Men are unsympathetic towards Women's grievances in dating. Has a woman tell me that a coffee date is a red flag because it shows that he isn't invested in her. Like bish please of course he obviously isn't invested in her since he haven't even had a face to face conversation yet. Like the ego of some women to expect men to just be swoon over them because... they are women I guess... Like people have to talk and get to know each before they develop feelings and get invested. And this is part of their "vetting" process, no wonder why it doesn't work at al…	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/01/24 05:26 AM
1	Why I believe Men are unsympathetic towards Women's grievances in dating. Not sure why opposite sex expects empathy from the other. Generally because that's what a respectful mature adult should do (hear other people out, understand their problems and see if there is a common ground with a common solution)...	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/01/24 05:11 AM
1	Why I believe Men are unsympathetic towards Women's grievances in dating. Another way to look at this, though, is that men have evolved an ability to deceive women into sex. One can't fault some women for falling for these men's innate ability to deceive. Ummm yes, yes we can. We can literally fault people for falling for traps, especially when they are so obvious... Like as kids you would have hella made fun of the kid that you could trick into getting them to punch them selfs in the face. Now as adult, you still make fun of that adult but just inside your head and y…	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/01/24 05:07 AM
3	Why I believe Men are unsympathetic towards Women's grievances in dating. I'm mostly unsympathetic because I'm envious of the opportunity women get for actually meeting a partner that matches them, but instead I see droves of women seeking their ideal Wanted( 1 ) partner instead of what they Need ( 2 ) This annoys me so much because they have all the power and control to find a good healthy partner, but they refuse to pick those partner because "they aren't enough". And here I am barley able to get a few dates a year, when I was trying, and still having to deal with t…	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/01/24 04:57 AM
1	outside of some obvious exceptions, having no friends is a red flag To answer your question, not very long. However, if we look at the actual question and not the one you changed it into... Ie. "How are you going to function in a relationship if you only enjoy being with very few select number of people"? The answer to this question is, a pretty long ass time.	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/01/24 03:49 AM
2	What do you think is the cause for this to happen? Yes...?	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/01/24 03:40 AM
1	What do you think is the cause for this to happen? Without hearing both ends of this, there's no point in my or anyone else's conjecturing. It's all just fantasizing at this point. Well the fact that this post reads more of a general observation and not an individuals experience, there isn't a "both sides". Thus it would be much more on speculation than fantasization.	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/01/24 03:40 AM
1	What do you think is the cause for this to happen? If you just want the answer to be: because those women are shitty, you don't need to come here, right? Hey now, don't get your pants in a knot. I don't know what kind of irrational hate you have for what ever gender, but I haven't said anything thing about him or her here. I just said was why "simply just asking them" is a terrible idea...	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/01/24 03:37 AM
1	What do you think is the cause for this to happen? So you like to avoid questions by answering questions with questions?	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/01/24 09:11 PM
39	“Don’t bother a woman at [location]. She’s just there to [do activity].” Why do women need to HIDE this so badly though???	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/01/24 08:30 AM
-2	What do you think is the cause for this to happen? Really through this thread, literally haven't seen a single person say "hear both sides" only "you just heard the mans side" or "the womens side would be something like 'insert incompetent man actions'". It's so evidently clear that the women is wonderful effect is in full swing because it couldn't possibly be her fault that the relationship ended irrationally...	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/01/24 08:27 AM
2	What do you think is the cause for this to happen? Realistically it generally revolves around mental health/illness. They seek something from life (that they may or may not be aware of) that they are not getting so they ask their partner to fulfill a need. When they can't fulfill that request, it suddenly becomes a blight on their partner. For example Empowerment is a big one. They don't feel like they have control over their life and how it plays out, either at work, at home, with friends, etc. Since they don't feel like they have control they …	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/01/24 08:18 AM
7	What do you think is the cause for this to happen? Because what people say doesn't mean it's the truth or even the real reason... That's why we have an entire field of study about how people behave, instead of just asking them...	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/01/24 08:10 AM
4	Is approaching women something men are stopping to do? Is it also frowned upon? Also is male sexuality demonized? Women are physically smaller, weaker and lacking in testosterone. Criticising them for not being combative would be like criticising a 5ft4 dude for not being able to dunk. Depends on the situation, I'm assuming two fully grown sober adults. How, what are the statistics on women being attracted after rejecting a man? I bet you its pretty low. I bet you is lower than the statistics on women getting hurt in a car accident, yet women still drive without being struck with fear... So yes we can absol…	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/01/24 08:57 AM
10	Is approaching women something men are stopping to do? Is it also frowned upon? Also is male sexuality demonized? The halo effect is a well documented phycological effect, you can read up about it as it's pretty cool. Though as a note, it's an effect not a natural law so it may not apply to everyone. It's not rare to see people have a built in bias against and actually de defavors the most attractive people. Ie Things like assuming the more attractive someone is the less hard work they did to get their. Or feeling an attractive person is creepy because you assume they "use their moves" on all the people.	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/01/24 08:53 AM
1	Is approaching women something men are stopping to do? Is it also frowned upon? Also is male sexuality demonized? Please don’t say women only like it when it’s a high value man or an alpha. Jesuchrist I’ve read that a million times. Sure we don't have to say it but it's true and you probably know that. To be fair it doesn't have to be a FDS/redpill HVM, but just someone that the women is interested in. If your fugly but if you have a great pickup line and a god given gift of gab, to the point that she becomes interested in you, that that will work. Unfortunately the average guy is either attractive enough o…	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/01/24 08:49 AM
–	Women usually don't care about looks as long as men are not autistic or socially awkward. Oh no women say this shit all the time, just because they say it doesn't mean they know they are lying through their teeth.	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/01/24 08:56 AM
0	Men feel that women will not allow them to have preferences but where do they get this idea? Welp you clearly don't understand how to view things on a middle ground... Yes the Internet can make people more nasty, but also it can make them more truthful for who they are. Outside has social pressures that might prevent people from behaving the way they would want to. However people being offline and outside doesn't stop people from behaving nasty behind closed doors or on the Internet. Ultimately it's a balancing effect where you have to balance the outside world with the Internet world t…	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/01/24 08:47 AM
1	California Online Dating Safety Act: Thoughts An I bet you the first time they men you, they were pretty weary.	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/01/24 08:41 AM
1	Why do women tend to get aggressive at divorce? but we don't all know the statements OP made about facts ARE true so it's completely "normal" to ask for clarification. You don't need to if their anidontal....	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/01/24 08:40 AM
2	Why do all feminist subs block most discussions that aren't positive of them? I recommend you write down your thoughts and put it away, then go spend a month or two in these subs and come back and tell me the same. I told my gf about FSD and twoX, her initial reply was basically the same as yours. I didn't bring it up again, but she did. Her opinion changed on the subs changed so much she felt like she had to bring it up to me about how toxic they are. They sound and seem good, on paper. But in reality it's just an echo chamber of toxic, damage, hurt women who aren't gett…	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/01/24 09:07 AM
0	Why do all feminist subs block most discussions that aren't positive of them? They come to autistic screech their ideals at people. And when someone doesn't agree and provides proof of otherwise, they throw and fit. Like half the time, I think talking to a literal wall listens better than them.	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/01/24 09:01 AM
2	Why do all feminist subs block most discussions that aren't positive of them? Oh ya FDD used to always do this. I got banned for /datingadvice because I told a user the reason why her date is being distant is because she is fetishizing the shit out of his height. Like in here post she couldn't even shut up about it and how many times she "complimented" his height I was pera banned and called an incel... And that's not even a feminist sub...	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/01/24 09:00 AM
2	Why do all feminist subs block most discussions that aren't positive of them? Are their any nontoxic feminist...? Unless you go back in time by 60 years, no.	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/01/24 08:56 AM
0	Why do all feminist subs block most discussions that aren't positive of them? This is a good Ted talk on the subject https://youtu.be/3WMuzhQXJoY?si=MEcSpZ-WzMx4fxSd The tldr is that they need someone to blame for their problems and advocating for that "bad person" will make them realize that they aren't to blame, and confuses them as who they should blame.	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/01/24 08:53 AM
–	Do you lovely ladies think you'll be able to pull off a alpha fuxs/beta bucks strategy in a post red pill world? when did you stop beating your wife? Well that literally came out of nowhere, but okay... it essentially boils down to men can be as shallow as they want but women cannot be, because we are subhuman to men. It says much more about men and their thinking than it says about us. I'm sorry what. I'm not even close to being red pill, and I even know red pill is more about privilege maxing. Half of red pill is trying to claw back privileges that women have and men don't... So um your way off base, but…	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/01/24 08:44 AM
13	California Online Dating Safety Act: Thoughts Sorry my guy, that comes with being man not a Internet stranger. It's just one of those privileges that we have to recognize...	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/01/24 02:22 AM
4	Why are we glorifying doing normal adult things Honestly this is my experience as well.	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/01/24 02:17 AM
0	Why are we glorifying doing normal adult things I rarely see it brought up on this sub as its a "womens thing to do". I see a lot more comments like this one says "that's called being an adult" in response to women bitching about how that have to "so everything".	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/01/24 02:15 AM
3	Why are we glorifying doing normal adult things Forgive me if I’m wrong, but isn’t this just called being an adult? I do all of that plus a hell of a lot more, and work a 40-hour a week job making a fantastic income. I never thought to myself “I deserve a gold star”. Isn’t that just being an adult? That's what I'm saying, yet way to many women want a gold star for it as well.	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/01/24 02:13 AM
0	Men feel that women will not allow them to have preferences but where do they get this idea? Yeah so don't tell a woman to her face that you don't like how fat she is? Who said I did. Ive never seen a man get put down, called out or berated for respectfully turning down a woman. How long have you been on the Internet for, a few minutes?... It happens all the time, especially on the Internet. Generally speaking it not about a woman lashing out and screaming at the guy. More often than not its a lot of bad mouthing them behind their back, behind closed door. Most guys my experience this k…	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/01/24 02:05 AM
0	Why do women tend to get aggressive at divorce? You kind of just prove my point as why I don't think that comment is useful. It in it self was dismissive which leads to other agreeing with dismissing it... Your rebuttal is how your anadotal experience differs from OP, so that OP shouldn't be able to use their anadotal experience as a reason to propose a question or discuss. Rather than consider what OP said and adding your own experience to the discussion (yes adding not trying to overwrite), you choose to be dismissive of OP along with anoth…	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/01/24 02:01 AM
1	Why do women tend to get aggressive at divorce? If I say "why don't all of the unicorns in Michigan run for congress more?" and you asked me where I'm getting the idea there are unicorns in Michigan, that would be a logical question since they don't exist. Except we know unicorns aren't real so the term "unicorn" would be considered ambitious, and the question would be proposed for clarification on the ambiguity. We hopefully all know women exist, so there is no need to ask for clarification on womens existence.	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/01/24 01:53 AM
3	Men feel that women will not allow them to have preferences but where do they get this idea? Ehhh, someone one being a dick about it is pretty easy but other people not interpreting them not being a dick is pretty hard. The simple act of nicely an respectfully rejecting a girl could paint you as a dick. Moreover if the reason is remotely related to that they are too big for you, is easily interpreted as "you fat and ugly" to any women around that has a body insecurity, leading you to be labeled as a massive dick.	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/01/24 08:50 AM
-3	Why do women tend to get aggressive at divorce? Who says this is what women do? OP did, now if you want to get off your semantic high horse and discuss this like normal people that would be great. Stop trying to argue anidontal experience with a fallacy...	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/01/24 08:40 AM
2	If someone is content being single, then their standards can be as high as they want Successful women generally want an equal or more successful men. Wealthy women generally want a man who is equal or more wealthy man. Strong women generally want a equal or stronger man. Etc... Generally speaking, women don't like to date down.	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/01/24 07:23 AM
1	If someone is content being single, then their standards can be as high as they want This is something lots of people, especially women, don't consider. Yes men can get are wear makeup to make themselves look more attractive. However most women would actually get turned off by aan wearing makeup due to catching the "ick".	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/01/24 07:20 AM
2	Women who complain about dating, is it incorrect to say they are at fault? Your humorous take is pretty funny because that still wouldn’t happen. Nurses make a good wage from the start, more than most janitors. ... Nurses are not doctors or janitor.. A doctor would also do that as well. My guy, you clearly haven't met any doctors. Right out of med school they are interns and get paid jack shit while having to afford to live. Most take out more debt because the cost of living is higher than their pay. Then after that they have 4 to 8 more years of residency, where their…	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/01/24 06:59 PM
2	Fun hypothetical, here are some options you can choose from to fix dating Oh but this would be the most misogynist thing to do. Because men not being as attracted to women is justs men forcing their unrealistic body standards onto women... /s As much as a joke this comment is, we all know this is how it would play out. Somehow it would be mens fault for not having as high of a sex drive.	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/01/24 06:14 PM
1	Fun hypothetical, here are some options you can choose from to fix dating I would say (1) more woman than men would give a higher advantage in combination with 2 would actually give a better advantage that with 4. We just have to look at how dating and women treated men after large wars (aka half the men dying off) to see that just 1 by it self provides a huge benefit.	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/01/24 06:11 PM
1	Fun hypothetical, here are some options you can choose from to fix dating Implementing 1 and 2 sounds like a way to completely flip the dating market upside (men get to behave like women currently do and women have to deal with life as men know) by nstantly driving up the demand and lowing the supply of men. Which sound like fun. Like wise, implementing these two would probably have the knock on effect of the rest of them. However the best outcome for society would be 3 and 4.	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/01/24 06:05 PM
1	Why don’t the men here do speed dating? But I don't have it pay to swipe in an app and any app that starts charging 5$ a swipe is getting instantly deleted.	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/01/24 05:58 PM
2	Women who complain about dating, is it incorrect to say they are at fault? In what world would a doctor and janitor make the same other than your made up example. An example is ment to highlight the answer you were looking for because you didn't want to see/trust it when someone told you at face value. But hey il humor you A janitor that's been working for 8 years (Doctors have to go through school) and in a union vs doctor just starting out, it would be very common for the janitor will make more than the doctor (with substantial less debt). Also men would prefer a wom…	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/01/24 05:36 PM
1	Many people talk about toxic masculinity, but we rarely hear about toxic femininity. A straw man fallacy is the informal fallacy of refuting an argument different from the one actually under discussion, while not recognizing or acknowledging the distinction. One who engages in this fallacy is said to be "attacking a straw man". Ya so, 200% not a strawman...	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/01/24 05:23 PM
1	Why push for a relationship, marriage and even kids when you are fundamentally unable to trust your partner? I’m not asking anyone educated in physics, I’m pointing out that people aren’t cars or any other objects. Yes that's why a Person flying out the window is a perfect example, because people aren't cars...	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/01/24 05:20 PM
1	Why push for a relationship, marriage and even kids when you are fundamentally unable to trust your partner? Why drive if you have to put a seatbelt on? Clearly concerned about flying out the window? Would be safer to just stay at home! I don't know why your trying to call "not flying out of the windshield in a car accident" as transactional... Like understandably, sure could be considered that the conservation of moment, where an object in motion stays in motion, could be considered a transaction of energy. But I think thats a pretty huge stretch of you ask literally anyone educated in physics...	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/01/24 09:05 AM
6	Many people talk about toxic masculinity, but we rarely hear about toxic femininity. Ehh, heroin is pretty toxic, but it's pretty rewarding. Just like how we fucked up AI, a reward doesn't mean it's good/the right thing.	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/01/24 08:57 AM
3	Women who complain about dating, is it incorrect to say they are at fault? Both sexs care about money because it can make ones life so much easier and fun. Unless ones profession is inline with a guys interest, men don't really give a shit about womens job. However, women seem to care a lot about the status of a man's job. A male Doctor or a janitor both getting paid the same, I would bet my left nut that the Doctor would get picked more often. Where I wouldn't make than bet if the sex roles were flipped.	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/01/24 08:53 AM
6	Women who complain about dating, is it incorrect to say they are at fault? As Bo Burnham once said "if Prince charming exists, he will ever settle for you".	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/01/24 08:50 AM
5	Women who complain about dating, is it incorrect to say they are at fault? So they could not use out of the blue messaging on line dating. Moreover, I know for a fact that those sites have a setting to disable showing up for new people to message you.... Like this shit isn't rocket science...	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/01/24 08:49 AM
1	Why attempt to change your partner’s lifestyle rather than just finding someone who matches yours? Because people (man or women) have different behavior and people (man or women) have different boundaries. Like someone sets up their boundaries (again regardless of gender) and their partner can either respect and follow those boundaries or leave...	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/01/24 08:44 AM
6	Why attempt to change your partner’s lifestyle rather than just finding someone who matches yours? Good job ignoring the other users comment to repeat your rhetoric. Your not here to learn, understand, or convers, your here to trying to change people's opinions by beating them with your own. As a heads up, that not going to work. As the other user said. who said the woman is being forced to do those changes? The expectations that you mentioned are from the man's side yes, but the woman in this equation can either accept or reject those expectations. So how is it wrong for a man to have these …	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/01/24 08:38 AM
2	Why is when it comes to age gap relationships, people assume there must be an agenda with the couple? Any women can also gate keep a relationship as well, Again it takes two consenting people. You need to stop focusing on the minority.	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/01/24 07:18 PM
3	Why is when it comes to age gap relationships, people assume there must be an agenda with the couple? This is just a long winded that feels like it's skirting what I was talking about. Men with options The idea is that the ability to gatekeep that relationship comes after having sex with that woman. The idea is that women keep speaking about men as a general (Ie "men gate keep relationship"). Sure a small minority of men can gate keep relationship But the general jist of it is men don't gate keep relationship, just that small minority do...	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/01/24 07:05 PM