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Also, my understanding is that all foreigners are farangs, including Chinese, Japanese, etc. Nope. A farang is a white foreigner/Westerner specifically.
/r/seduction18/11/12 02:48 PM
-2

Dude, they're after your money, and probably prostitutes too. As a non-white foreigner, you're less disgusting than us whiteys.
/r/seduction15/11/12 06:54 PM
1

this is much more like a hobby to me so I don't really think I'd monetize it. I bet Simple Pickup started as a "hobby" too. It's alright to make money. I just wanted to point out that "100% free of course!!" will turn into something else if your project takes off.
/r/seduction14/11/12 12:08 PM
0

But of course. If it really took off, though, you'd start monetizing your audience just like Simple Pickup did.
/r/seduction14/11/12 11:30 AM
-1

You know, that sounds like keyboard-jockeying, or like something Mystery might do.
/r/seduction09/11/12 02:44 PM
3

How do you define "being alpha" then? I think squarehouse was referring to how it seems it's usually the "jocks" that get the most and hottest women. You know, stupid loudmouth monkeys with only one thing on their minds.. Do they fit your definition of "alpha"?
/r/seduction07/11/12 08:22 AM
1

Yep, I tend to do the same.
/r/seduction30/08/12 08:31 AM
1

We were talking about a girl rejecting a guy, and the idea that the guy has feelings too, and that maybe those should be sometimes taken into account. This is quite a bit different from me expecting some counselling session at a nightclub.
/r/seduction30/08/12 08:27 AM
7

Yep. We're supposed to be persistent because otherwise we're just pussy loser AFCs.. except for when we shouldn't be persistent because it's annoying/creepy! Easy!
/r/seduction28/08/12 01:44 PM
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Also, saying things like "but what about my feelings?!?!" is really, really AFC'ish. Right, because men shouldn't feel feelings. It's just not part of their role in The Game. Fuck that.
/r/seduction28/08/12 01:40 PM
-5

"Sorry but I've got a boyfriend"?
/r/seduction28/08/12 12:45 PM
1

Don't take the responses here too seriously, they're obviously full of people doing everything they can to defend/rationalize PUA. Case in point: all the posts trying to dress up what "negging" means. I think you got it right with "passive-aggressive insult" though, and that's bullshit of course. I'm curious, do you really think most women know about PUA, and to what extent? It's not a problem for me, because I think all the routines etc are lame and I don't use any. On the other hand, I'm not c…
/r/seduction18/08/12 02:51 PM
1

Yep! The hotter ones tend to be in the clubs meant for locals, by the way. But practically all of them have boyfriends (usually with them in the club). It seems that overall, Thai people are the least attractive Asians though. It's weird.
/r/seduction27/07/12 08:39 PM
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Do you know if it's any different in Bangkok? You mean women? I suppose it's the same all over Thailand. As for the notable cities overall, I'm under the impression that Chiang Mai is just about the best of them. It's not as sleazy as Pattaya or Phuket, and I guess not as "cold" as Bangkok. But my perspective here is very limited, since I've only been in CM. Half white and my Thai mothers side of the family is quite well off there (living in gated communities, businessmen, etc.). Your chances of…
/r/seduction26/07/12 10:42 PM
6

As a bag of money. Yes. As a dirty farang. If you're old yes. If you're young and good looking absolutely not. .. They'll stand there and after a couple minutes an HB8 will come up to them, and after a minute they'll walk out together. As I said, prostitutes, and at least in Chiang Mai, you'll be really hard-pressed to find a real HB8 - they're more like 6-7. The women you're talking about are so-called "bar girls".. Most nights, they'll be sitting at their standard/favourite bar, waiting for a …
/r/seduction26/07/12 07:43 PM
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If you want fish in a barrel in Asia as a white guy you go to Southeast Asia (Thailand, Cambodia, Vietnam!, Philippines). How do I know? I lived there for 6 months. Thai women see you as a walking bag of money (and a dirty farang), and any woman who approaches you is either a straight-out prostitute, or a gold-digger. So don't be fooled into thinking they're just easier there. I bet the same largely applies in the other SE Asian countries too.
/r/seduction26/07/12 05:41 PM
1

When you stop caring Yeah, to genuinely stop caring. That's pretty much the Holy Grail, isn't it? But if a guy says he fears approaching a woman, but not getting rejected, he's kidding himself. What is there to be feared about the approach, except for whether it produces the wanted result (ie. not rejection) or not?
/r/seduction02/07/12 03:55 PM
7

The core of your position is null and void. That was lame.
/r/seduction02/07/12 01:03 PM
2

Well, rejection is the bit that hurts, you know. You can claim you don't care about it all you want, but you do.
/r/seduction02/07/12 12:53 PM
3

the approach is the only thing I fear not rejection You fear the approach because it might result in a rejection. In other words, you fear rejection.
/r/seduction01/07/12 10:13 AM
2

A valid point.
/r/seduction25/06/12 08:19 PM
1

Only approach women without any monkeys around (eg. day-game), or consider training in martial arts. Yeah, I haven't trained either, and wouldn't be able to defend myself. If martial arts doesn't happen to be one's hobby anyway, it's just really sad that you "should" train just because people are animals.
/r/seduction23/05/12 07:53 PM
5

Baby steps. Start by saying "hi" to a woman you're totally not interested in. Then just walk away - without even waiting for a response. Repeat a few times. See if you could raise the bar higher.
/r/seduction22/05/12 09:55 PM
2

Hey :p Ok well first of all the phrase "chat you up" is just super awkward and creepy. If you say so. Doesn't feel that way to me, but I'm not a native speaker. Then he gets into the "racist" joke around 2 min and it's not construed very well. Accusing someone you just met of being a racist is just kind of rude. It was a joke. She clearly understood that. Besides, usually when someone's accused of being a racist, it's by some hypersensitive politically correct sheep. It would be funny if it were…
/r/seduction07/03/12 11:21 PM
1

Any specifics?
/r/seduction01/03/12 05:39 PM
1

You deleted your previous comment? Did you answer any of my questions? -That one was rhetorical. I'm male and this is 100% false for me. Bullshit. Stop lying to make yourself look all noble and shit. This distinction you're trying to make between personality and attraction doesn't exist. That idea should not be the least bit controversial on Seddit of all places.
/r/seduction28/02/12 10:51 PM
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Haha, sorry. That's what I meant to say. Why not just say it then? I'm not sure I would go that far, but we have definitely learned how to get results. Would getting results not entail knowing how women work? We certainly are. It is also possible for me, as a priveleged individual, to refuse to acknowledge the individuality of another group of people, and I would consider that to be societally counterproductive. I just said we're all individuals. The point is that we do have traits that are comm…
/r/seduction27/02/12 11:08 PM
1

Yep.
/r/seduction27/02/12 08:55 PM
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Referring to women collectively as pussy is the definition of objectifying women. Yeah, it certainly is objectifying. But is objectifying women (or men) a bad thing, or is it just how we're wired biologically? It's also the main reason that any seduction communities exist. Not sure if the objectification of women itself is the reason why seduction communities exist. I'd say it's because the majority of men want sex but aren't getting it. If you think something different, you're fooling yourself.…
/r/seduction27/02/12 07:39 PM
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On the other hand, "taking/giving value" is a hand-wavy concept too. It's complicated. I wouldn't call AFCs bitches. In fact, I suspect you were kind of referring to my earlier post where I complained about someone doing that. But I do kind of objectify women, and I think most - if not all - of us do on some level. First, there's.. "Pussy". We've all talked about women as this.. mass.. of Pussy, like "water", "air", "orange juice", "pussy". It's just the most exciting part of a woman. We talk ab…
/r/seduction27/02/12 11:47 AM
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Yeah, but we can relate. And as mentioned, my comment was aimed at others too. There were around five comments lecturing the guy about being an AFC.
/r/seduction26/02/12 09:42 AM
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Come on. We all know what it's like to be an AFC. We all know what he's going through. We all had no fucking clue about how women really work. "Acting like a bitch", eh? Is it really appropriate to pile on the guy for being a victim of society like we once were? As if we had never made the same kind of mistakes? As if we're somehow better than him? Teaching him a lesson here that he'll never even see just feels like you're venting your own baggage from a lonely past. ( This is aimed at the sibli…
/r/seduction25/02/12 11:17 PM
0

"Im_a_rapist" talked about something like that.
/r/seduction23/02/12 07:49 PM
0

I wouldn't read too much into this. After all, humiliating them is not exactly a non-optional part of picking women up.
/r/seduction23/02/12 08:13 AM
2

He means he "got (to stick his dick in) her".
/r/seduction19/02/12 02:28 PM
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I stated that most of my past relationships have been started by me asking him out I did see that. I just didn't believe it.
/r/seduction19/02/12 12:53 AM
1

The tickets were $130 each. It would never occur to me to ask him to pay for his, since I'm the one who invited him to the show. So you're rich too?
/r/seduction18/02/12 11:49 PM
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if I asked a guy out, he COULD expect me to pay. Well that sure is an easy claim to make, especially when you can't imagine asking anyone out. Why? -Because you have a vagina. If you did ask someone out, it would be because you felt desperate. Are you thirty soon? Face it, you're just feeling entitled to men paying for your stuff. Why? -.. yeah.
/r/seduction18/02/12 11:46 PM
1

Oh, and.. That "worked" too. But was it just luck? Since I didn't "kino escalate" on her, was it just that she was really interested in me overall, and therefore just hung in there even though I didn't touch her? What do you think? Was she just so interested in me for some reason that she didn't shut me down for not touching her? Or is this evidence of kino not really being necessary?
/r/seduction14/02/12 10:40 AM
2

Hmm.. I've been meaning to reply. It seems you changed this a bit? You've got some good points in the new post too. In your case, I would start out with something like briefly touching her arm to express sympathy. If she says something funny, put your hand on her lower thigh for a second while you're laughing. Up it slowly from there. OK, I can do that. But it'll feel awkward at first :) If it's awkward for me, will it be the same for the girls too? Besides, what do you think of the idea of just…
/r/seduction14/02/12 10:31 AM
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So what's your take on touching, as a woman? The standard approach seems to be to start by getting in a light touch here and there, even a handshake, a brush of your fingers on her arm, a light hug. But that's all calculated. They're looking for opportunities/excuses to touch her, and it just seems unnatural or kind of.. awkward. "NOW!! Now's my chance!!" But I guess the standard approach works too. Then there's David Wygant, for example, who (IIRC) seemed to think that touching is something tha…
/r/seduction11/02/12 10:26 AM
2

and proven over and over again that he's a pro How exactly has he proven anything?
/r/seduction08/02/12 10:23 PM
1

Of course, choosing to look like an idiot is possible, it's just not something you'd want to do, and therefore it's not really a choice, so I can't see why you'd "argue" for including it in the set of choices available.
/r/seduction05/02/12 09:59 PM
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I just said as much?
/r/seduction05/02/12 09:04 AM
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See my reply above.
/r/seduction04/02/12 06:06 PM
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My point was that when the only choice you have left is the number of millimeters you want left, that's not much of a choice. I'm bald myself, by the way, so it's not like I'm putting baldies down or anything. It's just that there's no point in pretending you have lots of options. If you don't trim it, then it'll really look stupid. But we do trim it, because we kind of have to. We only have one hairstyle available to us.
/r/seduction04/02/12 06:06 PM
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Bald is a choice. How so? You don't really have a say in how bald you become, and if you mean shaving or trimming it, well there's not much choice in that either, besides how many millimeters you want to have left.
/r/seduction04/02/12 09:36 AM
1

Why do you open with 'I think you're cute' so much? Maybe it's just them being honest. Maybe it's not even a bad thing?
/r/seduction02/02/12 12:16 AM
1

Oh my mind has been "corrupted" by lots of things already, mostly various unfortunate aspects of Reality. Every one of us could expend a lot of effort into acting all "alpha" in whatever situation we happen to find ourselves in, but that's bullshit. You and a woman are just two human beings, and you'll either come together as such, or you won't. In some cases, I might be able to convince someone to let me stick it in by acting "alpha", but I hate bullshit & games, so I'll be concentrating on min…
/r/seduction01/02/12 07:07 PM
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Look, I'll always want to cuddle because that's just the kind of guy I am. If that's not "alpha", then so fucking be it. In fact, I don't care about being alpha. If you're constantly evaluating the "alphaness" (as you see it) of whatever you're about to do, that's just bullshit. I'm not an Alpha-Robot, but a human being, and I want to deal with similar women.
/r/seduction01/02/12 11:46 AM
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The Alpha-Robot does not cuddle before sex, as that could be construed as a sign of emotional involvement, and by extension, weakness. However, The Alpha-Robot's programming allows for an optional, brief period of cuddling afterwards, because this will increase the likelihood of The Vagina permitting entry again in the future.
/r/seduction31/01/12 11:19 PM
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Cuddling before sex (or without sex) is a beta male trait. Pffft.
/r/seduction31/01/12 07:47 PM
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None of the above. But that was a reasonably good human-nature -based guess. Petty little downvote right back at you.
/r/seduction31/01/12 01:09 AM
-5

Do Jesse and Jason wear lifts (they look pretty short)? Does it matter? Tell me what I need to know about college game? Apparently, it's supposed to be easy to get laid in college. Kong specifically - what kind of hairstyle worked best for you: short and spiked up? long and messy? Does it really matter? Are you sure he'd even be able to tell the difference his hairstyle made in his level of success on a given day? One last thing: you guys dress decently, but no especially well. Why not? Because …
/r/seduction30/01/12 08:59 PM
3

Yep, good point. It's obviously a way to make money. But on the other hand, it looks like it's real, and that they're quite efficient. I saw an interview of them on where ever, and they mentioned they don't call the numbers they get, because they've got enough women anyway (don't remember the exact wording but that was the implication).
/r/seduction30/01/12 08:55 PM
3

Definitely, that kind of stuff should happen more often, and to more men :)
/r/seduction30/01/12 12:52 AM
10

before I could get any words out she grabbed me and started making out with me in the middle of a huge crowd of people who all stopped and began cheering us on. My. mind. was. blown. Wow.. What the hell. She must have been pretty fucking in to you for that to happen. But nice going anyway!
/r/seduction30/01/12 12:10 AM
1

Yep!
/r/seduction28/01/12 10:14 AM
1

Or just trap you into being her Provider?
/r/seduction28/01/12 09:26 AM
-1

There's no reason to worry about them getting "objectified" at the gym. If they want to get objectified, they'll dress accordingly, and vice versa.
/r/seduction26/01/12 08:26 PM
14

Not to mention she might have wanted to get pregnant too.
/r/seduction26/01/12 04:41 PM
1

The more I think about it, the clearer it seems that tension is more your ally then comfort. Could be. Oh well.. I'll need to investigate too, but it might take a while before I have a chance to get in a proper approaching session.
/r/seduction23/01/12 10:33 AM
2

(Touching:) But now I've been pushing to do it because I want to do it. Well, how does that work nowadays? We both know what it's like to feel like you have to touch her tactically, because otherwise she'll lose interest. But after your transformation, what exactly are you thinking when you touch them? I've been thinking that touching should be natural, and just follow naturally as a result of the way you feel in some specific moment. If you're feeling like: "awww she's so great! i like her!", t…
/r/seduction23/01/12 10:27 AM
2

Look, we're on the same page here.. I guess it wasn't obvious from my message, but I do want honesty, openness, and things to be straightforward. I'm with you man :p Being direct is just me being really honest Being direct is not a tactic for me either, it's just how I roll. Being direct is what I want to do, and I'm always open and kind of blunt in everyday conversations too, whenever I can. I want things to be straightforward. Being direct is being myself. Kind of. I've never really had much p…
/r/seduction22/01/12 08:44 PM
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I've been kind of doing the same thing. I haven't done nearly enough approaching, but a few times I've just.. stated my case: "hey you're cute and I wanted to meet you." --> "do you have a boyfriend?", and the response has been mostly positive. Just like you said - and just like I've thought too - you and a girl are just two human beings. Why should things be complicated? Playing games is bullshit, and I don't want to. Sometimes I feel like what we're doing is too direct. I want direct, though, …
/r/seduction22/01/12 05:41 PM
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You're not unlocking a forbidden alternate universe where women suddenly worship your cock. This is a good point :p Life is just life, and you're gonna have to live within its constraints.
/r/seduction20/01/12 10:28 PM
1

Oh stop it already. When did I say I was not going to keep improving my life?
/r/seduction18/01/12 10:48 AM
1

But... if you can't accept what I have to say, then I take it all back... I take it all back, and you are completely correct: to be strong means to be less human. Well, you got a bit carried away with "schooling" me. But you can't. I'm very familiar with the teachings of Seddit. And I have actually gotten "stronger" in the past couple of years, by the way. I guess you assumed otherwise. But as I've been saying, the way women (and humans in general) work is kind of sad, and no amount of us becomi…
/r/seduction18/01/12 10:22 AM
1

I know how you feel. Just try to find the "good parts" and benefit from those. Besides, if you're 19 years old, you have nothing to complain or worry about. You've got your whole damn life ahead of you, and there's plenty of time for your outlook on dating to change, maybe even several times.
/r/seduction17/01/12 06:18 PM
2

Yeah, it's certainly better to present things in a positive-sounding way.
/r/seduction17/01/12 09:39 AM
1

Wow, quite an analysis :p It's your pain and dissapointment talking. It was more like your pain and disappointment talking when you were framing things in terms of being "weak" vs being "strong". I just reacted to using those words. Not that I wouldn't have any pain and disappointment in store. Stronger doesn't mean less human. It doesn't mean you have to fake being Conan. It can mean being mentally more durable, being more fun, being immune to other peoples bullshit. Well yeah, I agree. But wha…
/r/seduction17/01/12 09:35 AM
1

Weak, strong? Yeah.. you can put it like that too. I'm more interested in being human than being "strong" though. Too bad the world is not suitable for me.
/r/seduction17/01/12 01:02 AM
1

What's bad is being a needy pussy. Again, I know what turned her off. Yeah, it was a pretty serious display of insecurity. But is it necessary to call him a "needy pussy", especially when you've been exactly like him in the past? Even needy pussies are human. Anyway, I guess my issue is mostly just with women being the way they are.
/r/seduction17/01/12 12:59 AM
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I guess the guy is a budding PUA. He faked it till he made it.. into bed with her, just like Seddit tells us to, and then had a "weak" (or "human") moment and told her about how he's had trouble with women. This, of course, presses a woman's womanly-displeasure-buttons, which gets him shut out of any future interactions with her vagina. My point was that this whole sequence of events is kind of sad. It's just what we'd expect, and I realize why she got turned off, but it's sad. Yeah sure, they'r…
/r/seduction17/01/12 12:12 AM
1

Yes, it's sad if we can't just be human beings with other human beings, but instead have to pretend and play games. I know it's what it is, but still, it's sad.
/r/seduction17/01/12 12:08 AM
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You don't say? That was kind of my point.
/r/seduction16/01/12 11:39 PM
1

I'll put it this way: you don't walk up to a stranger and tell them all your secrets, right? Do they still count as strangers after having sex? Basically the guy was just being a human being, which, of course, he shouldn't have done (before having enough sex with her to make her give a fuck). It's a bit of a problem if you're not allowed to just be a human being. We all have our issues.
/r/seduction16/01/12 09:10 PM
0

No? She just said it's nice when/that she doesn't have to.
/r/seduction16/01/12 09:08 PM
1

Oh? I'm not sure how I can go on living, knowing you've tagged me like that. I regret confirming your suspicions with my previous comment, which was obviously full of RAGE and DOUCHE.
/r/seduction14/01/12 10:35 AM
1

You must be a real smooth Playa.. on the Internet.
/r/seduction13/01/12 07:11 PM
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Applied science degree, not english. Ah yes. Distinguishing between the singular and plural forms of an extremely common word is quite challenging. A bit like "then" vs "than". Those pesky A's and E's.
/r/seduction13/01/12 11:11 AM
1

Yeah it's not that difficult to come up with lines like that here, discussing the situation over the Internet.
/r/seduction13/01/12 11:10 AM
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I just laugh at it and try to win even a more attractive girl to piss her off Actually, this means at least one fuck is given, because otherwise you wouldn't be trying to "get even" with her, you'd be just moving on with your life.
/r/seduction13/01/12 11:08 AM
0

I didn't mean to say he wasn't right about some things he was saying. He's certainly talking about some commonly accepted "wisdom" about seducing women. But he comes off as a total douchebag, bragging about his conquests and so on. Usually when someone brags that hard, he's lying to make himself look better. Oh yeah, and that 80% claim is certainly bullshit. So why wouldn't the rest of his alleged accomplishments be bullshit too? It's easy to recite whatever you read on PUA forums and what not. …
/r/seduction12/01/12 08:41 PM
1

The boaster is probably full of shit anyway. (=He's probably lying about his accomplishments) written by a very well known PUA (=No he's not lying because he's a well-known PUA) Ross Jeffries is one. How much do you think he's gotten laid with "healthy" 9's and 10's though? (=Someone being a well-known PUA does not guarantee that he's as successful as he claims) And Ross Jeffries is a real person. So what? I was merely commenting on the post of "I bet this person is lying or full of shit", tryin…
/r/seduction12/01/12 05:05 PM
1

What made you think I doubted his existence, and not his alleged "accomplishments"?
/r/seduction12/01/12 04:04 PM
1

Ross Jeffries is one. How much do you think he's gotten laid with "healthy" 9's and 10's though?
/r/seduction12/01/12 03:37 PM
1

I think this distinction is the only thing we've been talking about. Well, we started out with something like this: I: You're not "improving yourself" to be more fun for others to be around, you're doing it because it will make getting laid easier for you. That's the real goal. You: No, this is YOUR goal, and, undeniably the goal of a lot of people here. I think it's unfair to project this on everyone here, though. I had no intention of making ANY negative claims about you. Oh? You did make that…
/r/seduction12/01/12 03:26 PM
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What the fuck is this thread? Come on, people. The boaster is probably full of shit anyway.
/r/seduction12/01/12 11:49 AM
1

I'm an engineer. I'm a software developer. The distinction that I am making is between: 1) those sedditors seeking to get laid by understanding social dynamics, sexual capital, and the origins thereof. 2) those sedditors seeking to get laid by learning tricks and techniques presented as and performed as psychological manipulation to force, through your will and your words, women into bed with you. I don't think that distinction is anywhere near what we've been talking about, and now it seems you…
/r/seduction11/01/12 07:45 PM
1

--- Second Part --- You can, if you choose, reduce every motivation of every person, no matter how philanthropic, how martyring, how kind-hearted, down to the base motivations. ".. but you'll be wrong, because People Are Good!" - something like that? Well, as an aside, how much do you know about how the world works around us? Are you, for example, aware of how everything is controlled by various "Elites"? Not only the 1% vs 99%, but 5% vs 95%, 20% / 80%, and so on. It's everywhere. People everyw…
/r/seduction11/01/12 06:22 PM
1

Oh dear.. You went all English Major on me :p But why start now? Did you want to appear more convincing/authoritative than before? you're positing that the goal of this community is to inform its members about how to get more sex, be it through being more interesting, free from the fetters of social anxiety, or outright psychological manipulation. Yes. You seem to see the pursuit of sex as an inherently selfish act, which often has positive, shall we say, externalities like the enjoyment of othe…
/r/seduction11/01/12 06:22 PM
1

You said "influence", I said "affect". Now you talk about "control" :p And of course former AFCs will be happy to no longer be AFCs. That's not really related to our discussion though.
/r/seduction10/01/12 09:44 PM
1

Oh, and "animal instincts", if you want to call biology/human nature that do affect everything we do every day.
/r/seduction10/01/12 08:31 PM
1

Now you're just making those "personal accounts from real people" up :p But let's just call it a day.
/r/seduction10/01/12 08:14 PM
1

It's not like Sedditors in general would be inclined to paint a pretty picture of their goal here, is it?
/r/seduction10/01/12 07:04 PM
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Now correct me if I'm wrong, but it seems that: You believe Sedditors (or maybe just you yourself, because you're better?) are motivated to self-improve for the sake of self-improvement. I believe they're motivated by getting laid more. My case is supported by our biological urge to reproduce. Your case is supported by.. what exactly?
/r/seduction10/01/12 06:33 PM
1

We all have egos.
/r/seduction10/01/12 05:53 PM
1

Yeah, it's not like I can force you to accept reality when your ego doesn't want to.
/r/seduction10/01/12 05:32 PM
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Oh yeah, this is total bullshit. I agree 100%. I find the HB terminology objectionable, and I find the latter statement intellectually dishonest. The first two are bullshit but the third isn't? On the other hand, that doesn't mean that 1) inner game isn't a path to being a better person You are whatever kind of person you happen to be born to be. Your personality guides whatever decisions you make in whatever situation you end up in. You can consciously choose to act in a certain way, even if it…
/r/seduction10/01/12 05:19 PM
1

At least whatever we discuss here comes down to getting laid.
/r/seduction10/01/12 04:35 PM
1

http://www.reddit.com/r/seduction/comments/o9hbe/so_i_just_got_banned_from_rshitredditsays_for/c3fq5yc There's a reason that one of the first steps of improving your "game" is talking to people. You basically just said it yourself. You "improve yourself" as part of "your game". What exactly is your "game" meant to accomplish? I talk to old people on elevators, am I going to fuck them? That's a distraction. You talk to old people on elevators because you want to shape yourself into a more social …
/r/seduction10/01/12 11:29 AM
1

The consequence of the moral code is that women are modeled as objects to be herded into bed through the use of psychological techniques. That's mostly just a consequence of how most (if not all) women "work". All those techniques for overcoming LMR or other ways of pushing their biological buttons do seem to work. Not that I've ever had to overcome LMR. I haven't been very active, and I haven't really encountered LMR. Once there was a woman I was trying to have sex with, and she just decided sh…
/r/seduction10/01/12 11:24 AM
1

Yep. If there are two things that turn me off completely about game, it's negging and LMR. Yeah. Sleazy.
/r/seduction10/01/12 11:04 AM
1

Well, your reply was certainly more amicable than mine, which takes character. Kudos, Sir. :p We seem to be in agreement about biology's effect on our behaviour. It's basically behind everything we do. Things we learn in "Seduction" do, of course, make a positive difference in our lives. It sure as fuck helps with the quality of your life to have a clue about how women work (=you get laid more, or at all, as the case may be), to be more confident and social and whatever. But us becoming more fun…
/r/seduction09/01/12 11:17 PM
2

See my reply above: He, his relationships, or the way he has sex are not any more special than anyone else's. His point? Well, I'm not sure there is one, besides painting a pretty picture of whatever happens to be connected to him looking for new (sexual) partners (as dictated by our biological programming).
/r/seduction09/01/12 10:56 PM
1

He, his relationships, or the way he has sex are not any more special than anyone else's. His point? Well, I'm not sure there is one, besides painting a pretty picture of whatever happens to be connected to him looking for new (sexual) partners (as dictated by our biological programming).
/r/seduction09/01/12 10:54 PM
6

Oh, and.. You shouldn't push women into things they will regret the next morning. What could be more selfish? As I said, people on Seddit have had countless discussions on how to do (possibly) exactly that.
/r/seduction09/01/12 09:35 PM
-1

I'm not sure how to respond to that. Look, I actually happen to be an exceptionally kind and gentle guy. Seriously, that's the way I was born. I do enjoy being nice to others and making them happy, but I wouldn't pretend I'm not selfish. With the exception of my mother, I'm like, the sweetest person I know. It's just that now I see the world for roughly what it is. I see reality, that we're all just human, and the human nature that guides pretty much everything we do. People don't do anything wi…
/r/seduction09/01/12 09:33 PM
-3

It's the ability to add value to the lives of others, to inspire interest and passion, to make other people happier for having met you. Used correctly, seduction doesn't just get you laid. It makes you a better, happier, more attractive, more socially adjusted person - and good, gratifying sex just becomes a natural consequence of that. The standard rationalization tripe again. Let's just face it, the vast majority of Sedditors are just trying to get laid as much as possible. We're guys. Guys ar…
/r/seduction09/01/12 08:55 PM
1

So you were always James Bond, even before discovering this shit? Some of that sounds kind of doubtful again though.
/r/seduction07/01/12 08:33 AM
0

He claimed to be a businessman though, which would mean he's actually detached himself from the hamster wheel.
/r/seduction07/01/12 08:32 AM
1

If her boyfriend is a Western guy in Japan, then yeah, he's likely to be messing around - or at least trying. That's what they(/we) all go there for. Not sure if he's "dickweed #1" though. But I guess you can just go forward with her, and see what happens.
/r/seduction04/01/12 07:55 PM
31

Yep. This is a woman who fucks men for money, naked, in front of cameras. We can assume the part where she was naked was just business as usual. Plus it's a show.
/r/seduction31/12/11 08:00 PM
16

Yeah, he was basically trying to bribe her into hanging out with him.. with a potato skin.
/r/seduction30/12/11 12:14 PM
-3

Exactly my point. Some American is just overreacting again.
/r/seduction28/12/11 09:06 PM
3

a submission that right off the bat posits that girls who enjoy sex are crazy undesirable sluts If you look closely, you realize that the text was not about Girls Who Enjoy Sex, but some specific subsets of them. Besides, GWES would cover practically all women anyway.
/r/seduction28/12/11 08:17 PM
1

6 people they've had sex with? Yeah, I'd imagine that number to be higher.
/r/seduction28/12/11 08:11 PM
1

If you're already at the point where you place her hand on your junk, and you're both groping all over, it doesn't really matter whether she has the good sense to give you a handjob right away. Just start trying to unbutton her shirt etc, and see what happens. If she's not comfortable, she'll let you know.
/r/seduction20/12/11 07:57 PM
2

Girls might know you're interested in them based on their looks, and it just might be alright too. It might not actually be a DLV.
/r/seduction19/12/11 01:26 AM
1

Yep, that's the way it is.
/r/seduction18/12/11 04:36 PM
2

appears that he's only interested in looks But he is interested in her purely because of her looks at that point, so what exactly is the problem?
/r/seduction18/12/11 03:57 PM
6

"Leaving them better than you found them" is just a hand-wavy rationalization/excuse for trying to get to stick your dick in as many warm places as possible.
/r/seduction15/12/11 09:04 AM
13

I WILL definitely steal the set away from him. WHY? because I know that I can beat his ass if he steps up on me. If he happens to step up on me, I have two or three other 6'3 friends at the club to bully up on him. I do this almost every night i go out in New York city, I blow out Asian/Indian guys all the time and they NEVER do shit about it. Fuck You. Stop being such a fucking pussy-asshole. You'll go steal someone's woman if you're sure you can "beat his ass" if he has the audacity to resist,…
/r/seduction13/12/11 09:14 PM
3

What's up with posts like this: http://aaronsleazy.blogspot.com/2010/10/tribute-to-tyler-from-rsd.html ? You're a salesman, selling your product. But your blog is full of personal attacks against other salesmen. In your free book you spend a lot of time (rightfully) discrediting the industry, and painting a picture of "getting your dick wet" within a few minutes of meeting a human being (which is a magic trick we'd all pay to know, of course). But where's the useful information? What's your actu…
/r/seduction09/12/11 04:13 PM
5

His account of a life full of glory sounds a bit suspicious though. Especially how girls would supposedly be sending him "suggestive pictures" because they're so eager to talk to him.
/r/seduction01/12/11 12:55 PM
1

Ummm.. huh? The pickier a girl is, the more likely she is to reject someone. The way her rejection typically manifests itself to a guy is "flaking". Therefore, a girl being pickier than before results in more flaking than before.
/r/seduction30/11/11 11:41 PM
1

So, it's not that girls are necessarily flaky, they just can be pickier than they used to. Being pickier than before results in more flaking than before.
/r/seduction30/11/11 11:14 AM
2

Lately I've seen signs of PUA-awareness spreading. Some guys here in Finland, some others abroad. They seem to mostly be following some sleazier flavours though.
/r/seduction30/11/11 11:10 AM
3

Wow..
/r/seduction30/11/11 10:57 AM
1

Well, I came to the conclusion based on reading several FRs.
/r/seduction24/11/11 10:49 AM
1

Are you that guy then?
/r/seduction23/11/11 11:17 AM
0

Yeah yeah, of course. It just seems like he should already be past that point.
/r/seduction23/11/11 12:47 AM
1

For example, it seems like he's forcing himself to do just about everything he does, and behaves in a caveman-like way but mentions some rejection(s) being really "painful" etc.
/r/seduction23/11/11 12:08 AM
14

That guy has issues.
/r/seduction22/11/11 10:52 AM
3

I had no idea it was that complicated. I'd imagine it's a huge benefit to know how your "target" thinks though, since you're both men. Besides, from what I've heard, sometimes it really is just as easy as "Hi, I like you. Want to have sex?" --> "Sure!"
/r/seduction21/11/11 03:44 PM
1

Which is why you're on birth control?
/r/seduction21/11/11 09:51 AM
-2

Silencing dissent, eh? Sure, if someone just keeps on making idiotic and extremely rude comments, banning him wouldn't be much of a loss. But overall you should just let people express themselves. Free speech and all. Mods should not consider themselves arbiters of what can and can not be said.
/r/seduction21/11/11 09:44 AM
0

Do you think preferring "normal" girls might be biological? As you said, I'm sure most men would, myself included.
/r/seduction21/11/11 09:36 AM
2

Well now you have to tell us what exactly you do to "blow people's minds".
/r/seduction20/11/11 11:59 PM
2

It's all a bunch of "tactics". Surely you know about "peacocking", for example. That's what the weird outfits are about, and that's already a tactic for getting laid. So, no. It's not just something he wants to do to express his artistic feelings.
/r/seduction16/11/11 11:07 PM
5

That's why girls like him..he's not afraid to be himself. But he is? The outrageous hats, make-up and whatever, the magic tricks.. They're all a facade to hide behind.
/r/seduction16/11/11 09:56 AM
1

Soooo.. instead of "the finest 9's and 10's", perhaps you meant something like "the skankiest 6-7 whores he could get to fuck him"? That's nice.
/r/seduction07/11/11 10:54 PM
1

I can't help but wonder what exactly "the finest HB9's and HB10's" means in this case.
/r/seduction07/11/11 10:17 PM
1

Are you trying to be annoying?
/r/seduction29/10/11 11:30 AM
1

Again, if the scale ends at 10, it seems like calling her a 10 is not an insult.
/r/seduction29/10/11 09:40 AM
1

Well, it should be reasonably easy to see Scarlet is not as good looking as Mila.
/r/seduction29/10/11 09:39 AM
2

No one is a 12 if the scale ends at 10. So, 8 then?
/r/seduction28/10/11 10:51 PM
2

So.. Mila Kunis is a 10 and she's something like an 8 then?
/r/seduction28/10/11 09:41 PM
1

The Hub doesn't count, you know.. And how many genuinely hot fetishists?
/r/seduction27/10/11 08:14 PM
2

While in Japan, how many non-white-guy-fetishist, genuinely hot girls did you bag?
/r/seduction27/10/11 07:23 PM
1

Now where's all the typical bleating on about how the HB-scale is not about looks?
/r/seduction23/10/11 04:28 PM
1

Yes, and that's just bullshit. It's something some PUA's like to tell themselves. Sure, personality does play a part, but it's all about looks in the beginning, and men generally agree on how hot women are. Jessica Alba is hot, yes?
/r/seduction15/10/11 09:13 PM
1

Yes, and that's why you should make your HB-ratings correspond to how men think about women: Looks.
/r/seduction15/10/11 09:11 PM
16

Actual HB10 programmers are pretty much non-existent. But it sounds more impressive to talk about bagging a 10 than a 7. Afterwards, you can always claim that the HB-scale isn't about looks, when looks are exactly what our attraction is initially based on.
/r/seduction15/10/11 10:39 AM
2

Congratulations! Now if we only knew if she's actually hot.
/r/seduction08/10/11 03:19 PM
1

That's kind of my point. If it's not funny when it happens to you, then it's not actually funny.
/r/seduction04/10/11 07:55 AM
2

I think it's funny to watch guys run in all confident and turn around with their tail between their legs. Why is it funny? You know how it feels.
/r/seduction02/10/11 10:44 PM
1

Until someone attracts the shit out of your girlfriend, starts making out with her in front of you, and then proceeds to beat you up when you object? Would that be fun?
/r/seduction02/10/11 05:39 PM
21

That's really fucking lame/douchey.
/r/seduction02/10/11 05:37 PM
1

The word "open" did, in fact, appear in your post. But if you're both free to fuck around as much as you want, don't complain about possibly getting left behind then, especially when you couldn't have been.
/r/seduction30/09/11 11:35 PM
1

Look, you're just not being very coherent with the kind of image you want to project. Are you someone who likes the concept of a relationship, and acts accordingly? Do you just want a longer term fuck-buddy or two? 1) You say breaking up would be "just too hard". 2) You fucked someone _for a week_, just _after a week_ since you separated from your so-called "boyfriend". That wasn't too hard? 3) You said your boyfriend _went on a date_ (as in, probably didn't have sex with her yet), _yesterday_. …
/r/seduction29/09/11 11:58 PM
1

My boyfriend went on a date yesterday and I don't want to be left behind. You certainly weren't left behind. You had a three week head-start. breaking up would be just too hard Really now? If you're out there attending fetish parties and meeting and fucking other guys after a week, you don't think much of your boyfriend. Anyway, if you want to attract classy guys, it helps if you look/are classy yourself. Dress in a somewhat "formal" way, don't show a lot of skin/cleavage. Keep your make-up ligh…
/r/seduction29/09/11 09:39 AM
1

my boyfriend I both moved to different cities about a month ago OK. I met a cute guy at a fetish party about a month ago Umm.. What?
/r/seduction28/09/11 11:44 PM
2

Calling is more personal and daring, of course, and that can't be a bad thing. But I hate it when you call someone and they don't pick up - then you're left wondering if they were busy, or didn't notice it, or just stood there waiting for you to give up. But with a text message, you can just send one and concentrate on other stuff. If she hasn't responded by the end of the next day (or whatever), it's over. If she does respond, it's like a pleasant surprise (because you forget about her until sh…
/r/seduction28/09/11 08:50 PM
1

Decided to try and make some money with pick-up, eh?
/r/seduction15/09/11 05:35 PM
0

If someone flakes on you, you're not in a position not to "stand for it" anymore, at that point. They did it already, and they probably won't care much about the chance they lost either. Sometimes it just happens, even to you.
/r/seduction12/09/11 07:12 PM
2

Sometimes they show up, sometimes they flake. It depends on how interesting they find you, of course. But it just seems weird to issue some kind of ultimatum based on how "100% committed" she sounds on the phone or something.
/r/seduction12/09/11 04:22 PM
1

Get her to agree to it! If she isn't 100% committed then tell her the plans are off. This part is a bit weird. Why can't you just go on a date, talk, have a good time, kino and see what happens?
/r/seduction12/09/11 03:16 PM
-1

What is this I don't even.. ? Sounds like bullshit through and through.
/r/seduction10/09/11 07:13 PM
1

Sounds about right :p
/r/seduction05/09/11 05:44 AM
13

It's very unlikely that she actually was a 9.5.
/r/seduction04/09/11 04:45 PM
18

Would HAVE. HAVE.
/r/seduction24/08/11 02:07 PM
1

No seriously.
/r/seduction23/08/11 04:56 PM
13

Silly girl, this applies just as well to the "lines" you dismissed as corny.
/r/seduction23/08/11 02:11 PM
1

It's about attractiveness. They just don't want to admit it, so they come up with some hand-wavy definitions for what it supposedly means. If you see someone talk about bagging a "HB 9.5", do you think "Wow, she must have been quite approachable, or maybe at the center of the dancefloor! Or maybe both!".. ? Or do you think "Wow, she must have been really hot!" (Hint: Notice all the discussion that your question sparked? It means that it's not actually clear what the scale means.)
/r/seduction20/08/11 08:40 AM
0

Haha.. yeah sure! Shouldn't you be "daddymc" then? :p Petty little downvote right back at you!
/r/seduction13/08/11 08:02 PM
1

We're there for a good half our or more while I AMOG the two guys No, you didn't "AMOG" the two guys.. AMOG stands for Alpha Male Other Guy - or at least used to. It would mean you (trying to) steal someone's target (or girlfriend). You shouldn't do it anyway, unless you're a total douchebag.
/r/seduction13/08/11 07:49 PM
9

What the fuck.. ? Is this how low Seddit has fallen since I've been away? Dude, you're in a car, in traffic. She's in another car, on another lane. You don't pick her up, you continue concentrating on driving so that you won't end up killing people.
/r/seduction13/08/11 07:37 PM
1

She's a total skank, don't bother?
/r/seduction13/08/11 07:32 PM
1

And you're a bit late, but still wanted to chime in with that? What does that make you? :p What's "woozaa"?
/r/seduction30/06/11 06:45 AM
-1

Well, I talking about what you do, not who you are, so that dramatic statement of yours is a bit off. As for what I've seen in your FRs, there's no need to assume anything - you've made things perfectly clear.
/r/seduction01/03/11 06:57 AM
-1

Sure, you can be personable and social while conducting your social validation aquarium experiment, but it's not who you are - it's what you're doing to get laid - and that kind of tones down the genuineness of it all a notch.
/r/seduction28/02/11 08:45 PM
-1

Setting up a social validation aquarium in order to get to fuck more women has nothing to do with being a confident nice guy.
/r/seduction28/02/11 07:51 PM
-1

If you look around, you'll see Tofu saying he agrees with most of what I said. Unless he edits it out before you see it, that is. I did note some "wisdom" in her post too, for the record. But that's beside what I was talking about here.
/r/seduction28/02/11 07:49 PM
-1

Wygant's stuff is generally quite natural. Entourage Game on the other hand, as I remember you describing your endeavors, is basically bullshit trickery, and I can't see the connection to being a confident nice guy working.
/r/seduction28/02/11 06:44 PM
2

With "sneaky kino", I meant things that don't really stand out as touching them in a sexual way. But I'm not talking about pretending to accidentally brush their legs either. So I guess talking about "accidental" vs not was a bit off.
/r/seduction28/02/11 06:41 PM
1

Hmm.. yep :p
/r/seduction28/02/11 06:33 PM
0

Most of the time when we get a female commentator they tell us we're doing it all wrong and describe the average afc nice guy as their ideal man. I'm still open to the idea that being a confident "nice guy" could work too. Not a doormat, mind you.
/r/seduction28/02/11 06:31 PM
-1

She said what she said, and it sounded like it did. I don't see a reason to try and rationalize it somehow or find a "deeper meaning" behind it. For example, recently we had Wygant here, telling us we should "make a connection" with women, etc, and that would inspire sexual feelings too. Who really knows, but in that light, this woman's post does seem shallow. Are we supposed to jump through hoops, or make connections? She seems to be in favour of the former, but I'd prefer the latter. I'm not s…
/r/seduction28/02/11 06:25 PM
0

Post count is how we treat a man or a woman, and in the name of equality, threads by women should receive just as many posts as threads by men? The strangely high amount of posts in the thread revealed a disgusting double standard on Seddit, and we should spring into action to weed it out! :P
/r/seduction28/02/11 06:12 PM
3

Double standard? I'm not sure what you mean. She proudly declared she rejected a kiss attempt because he had "done a painfully terrible job" .. of pleasing her by doing whatever she deems necessary for a man to have earned Her Majesty's kiss. That's just bullshit. I can understand why some men declared they wouldn't date her anyway. Next she's telling us that treating her date as if he wasn't even there made her look like an oh-so-cool person that everyone wants to be around. Who did she think w…
/r/seduction28/02/11 05:32 PM
6

Calm down please. She did sound snotty and "entitled" right from the start: He obviously wanted to lean over and kiss me when I dropped him off at this place at 4 a.m., but he had done such a painfully terrible job throughout the entire night that I couldn’t allow it to happen. .. and kind of like a perverted female version of an "Alpha-Robot": I was texting over the night with these guys we met the first time we bar hopped, and it just made me seem like a cool person people wanted to be around.…
/r/seduction28/02/11 05:12 PM
1

But in the PUA circles, there's been lots and lots of talk about all kinds of "sneaky kino" like pretending to read her palm and various means of touching her in a "discreet" way. Is that all wrong then?
/r/seduction28/02/11 04:17 PM
2

The accidental type I described above isn't going to cut it What do you mean? That whenever you "kino", you should make it clear it's not accidental?
/r/seduction28/02/11 09:07 AM
4

Tell him not to go all sales guy on us like Wygant did.
/r/seduction25/02/11 01:23 PM
1

He hinted at an answer, using your greater life experience to attract women, but I am disappointed he didn't give more. Yep, a hint at a hand-wavy answer is not much to go by. Oh well, beggars can't be choosers. Nonono, "You are The Prize". "BE THE PARTY!" :P On a more serious note, what do you actually mean with that? I don't think all hope is lost - surely you should be able to bag a 30-something woman etc. Are you still sarging, by the way? Do you think you could write a new field report some…
/r/seduction24/02/11 10:27 AM
2

Wygant was way too aggressive about hawking his shit throughout the whole thread. Maybe he wasn't told he shouldn't.
/r/seduction24/02/11 07:09 AM
20

Q: "Any specific advice for a 52 year old?" A: "Buy my shit, it will really resonate with you". I find the answer lacking.
/r/seduction23/02/11 04:44 PM
2

Demonstrate proof instead of speculation. You didn't prove anything by linking to Hef either. He is rich and famous, and "playmates" tend to be vacuous whores.
/r/seduction23/02/11 01:57 PM
25

Now was that an answer, or an advertisement?
/r/seduction23/02/11 01:42 PM
1

I actually agree with you on Halle Berry. How about Cameron Diaz? I'd say she's (always been) around 6 - 7. We hardly ever gave the same ratings and we'd get in a ton of arguments because of it. Arguments? How far apart were your ratings? +/-1 wouldn't be something to "argue" about, and something like +/-3 would be difficult to believe. Better beers get better ratings and worse beers get worse ratings. What?! There are no better beers - only preferences! :p It would be impossible to find a beer …
/r/seduction18/02/11 08:55 PM
1

Yeah I bet Jessica Alba is ugly too, and Kristen Bell! Definitely not 10s, Nnnoooooo! I bet you could find someone who doesn't like the taste of chocolate too! Sure, you certainly might be an exception (or you might just be lying to "oppose me"), but my point still stands: most men consider these women 10s. Oh, and apparently you've never tried any Belgian beer. Try a cold Leffe Brune and tell me Bud's an 8.
/r/seduction18/02/11 07:42 AM
1

Your replies aren't as clever as you think they sound. How old are you? 5? Jesus. You sound like a confrontational idiot. In neither of my conversations, either in your FR or this thread have you been willing to have a reasonable discourse. Why are you so confrontational? Oh please. Who's been confrontational? Of course, throwing around petty, vague and baseless accusations is a classic "debating tactic" used by those with not much else to stand on. Look at this: http://blog.okcupid.com/index.ph…
/r/seduction16/02/11 09:47 AM
1

Well, I kind of like your "3 scale". But again, if it's all subjective, why is anyone labeling women with their subjective ratings, as if they mattered? We label women because most men actually do agree on how attractive a certain woman is, of course. But for example in this thread, Seddit refuses to acknowledge that, hence my earlier comment about being in denial.
/r/seduction15/02/11 08:38 PM
0

Who gives a shit? Are you here to call them out or get better yourself? We, the people discussing the scale, do? Besides, the example I gave you fit perfectly with what you were saying earlier. But you disregarded it, of course, because it would have been difficult not to. Why do you insist on not treating the scale like "a universal scale"? Because not every single goddamn man in the universe will agree on every single woman's rating? Of course they won't. But I bet you could take let's say 500…
/r/seduction15/02/11 08:30 PM
1

I'm not stupid, and I'm not jealous. I'm sometimes envious, though.
/r/seduction15/02/11 11:30 AM
-1

The HB Scale is meant for social value, not looks. A model in a bar full of cute girls would be 10, because she would have the attention of most men there but she would be a 6 or 7 in a bar full of super hot women. It's to do with presented appearance. See, you're twisting this so far it doesn't even make sense anymore. Let's say I'm in a bar full of really fucking ugly skanks. Then I find the least hideous one of them all, take her home, and next day tell Seddit about my glorious "sex marathon"…
/r/seduction15/02/11 06:51 AM
0

Unless you are trying to pick up girls just to show them off, it is totally up to your own taste/standards. That's my point. When you regale us with stories of your studly conquests here on Seddit, you are "showing off". That's when you need to "normalize" the label you use. In private, feel free to think of your goth chicks (or whatever) as HB11s and worship the ground they walk on. Really, anyone should be able to get a "HB"6, and Seddit is actually quite a pissing contest, exactly because peo…
/r/seduction15/02/11 06:30 AM
0

"Nope, I'm just going to keep labeling my conquests higher than they actually are to inspire envy in you guys" - Is that what you meant?
/r/seduction15/02/11 06:25 AM
2

That's true too, but what I said is true too. So umm.. yeah.
/r/seduction13/02/11 04:04 PM
1

I was just explaining a part of why "travelling is awesome for pussy", and you are exotic to local girls in Asia, so what you said there was totally beside the point.
/r/seduction13/02/11 04:03 PM
7

When you're foreign, you're exotic, and that helps.
/r/seduction13/02/11 03:15 PM
3

Everything is a trade-off. Instructing newbies to fuck off to a "Newbie Seddit" might not do much good either. I can find the posts that interest me just fine, and I only respond to posts when I feel like it. This approach seems to work fairly well.
/r/seduction12/02/11 12:36 PM
4

We don't need AskSeddit if people on Seddit are willing to get off their high horses and stop bitching about "AskSeddit" -kind of messages here. No one is forcing you to answer any questions you deem to be somehow beneath you, you know.
/r/seduction12/02/11 10:04 AM
1

Yeah well, today I realized that using some amount of routines is inevitable. Take cocky funny routines for example, the first few times you apply it, you have to do it from memory, applying the lines you learned. Reciting (someone else's) memorized lines is bullshit, mm'kay? :p But yeah, coming up with certain kind of lines on the spot probably becomes kind of like a habit.
/r/seduction10/02/11 05:44 PM
1

"Improvised confidence"? Hmm.. Something's still a bit off :) But "overpowering" your AA takes "guts", at least!
/r/seduction10/02/11 05:40 PM
1

Yep :)
/r/seduction10/02/11 06:13 AM
1

I don't mean it as some kind of "way of thinking" / tool to psyche yourself up or something. I just believe I really am the kind of person who would, with the right (genuine) state of mind, be a real natural PUA. I was always good-looking, smart, funny, playful and joyous, but with women I was completely crippled by my AFCness.
/r/seduction10/02/11 06:13 AM
1

I see :p Yeah I'm not very far yet.
/r/seduction10/02/11 06:09 AM
1

Unwillingness to use 'routines' just because that's what they are displays that you don't really understand the point of routines. Consider this, a routine is just a means to get your brain to think in a certain way. No, in "PUA", a routine is something you say or do because, based on previous experience, you expect it to positively affect the outcome of your approach. In the vast majority of cases, this means you expect it to help you get to fuck someone. Don't let anything be easy for them, th…
/r/seduction10/02/11 06:07 AM
1

True, adjusting your views on anything is really fucking difficult for most people, and outright impossible for some. Many many years ago, I was walking in the Helsinki center with my cousin. He was always a "smooth talker" etc. Anyway, I was complaining about how difficult it is to meet women, and he got a bit exasperated and went like: "ok, just look at this" He then proceeded to greet the next woman we came across, and asked her when she thought they should go out on a date. I was dumbfounded…
/r/seduction09/02/11 08:54 PM
1

Yes, but it's validation seeking, and the more you make them work for it, the more attraction you will generate. I guess. But it feels kind of unnatural to always make them guess my age too. It's basically a routine, and I don't want to use routines. That's putting a lot of pressure on them to decide. True. I guess I meant it like: "who wants the privilege of going out with me?" Women like it when a man leads them to a decision. .. or to anything? :) Just say, "I'm going to be doing XX tomorrow,…
/r/seduction09/02/11 08:43 PM
1

Hmm.. I wonder if I've experienced that. Of course it's happened often that I've needed to "overpower" my AA and just walk up to someone, but I'm not sure I'd call what I had in those situations even "fake confidence". If I got a positive reaction to approaching, then of course I'd feel better about the situation etc.
/r/seduction09/02/11 08:38 PM
1

"Tolle"?
/r/seduction09/02/11 08:33 PM
2

Well yeah, I'm very good looking, but I never got anywhere with that alone. Oh, back in the days, I had lots of chances where all I'd have needed to do was umm.. anything, but I didn't. Come to think of it, maybe it was Helsinki that prevented me from sailing through life on Easy Mode - no matter how good you look, women/girls there just Will Not Ask You Out. Luckily I'll still benefit from my looks as a non-AFC. Oh, and girls just looking like they're interested in me doesn't happen all the tim…
/r/seduction09/02/11 08:28 PM
1

No, I don't like Hendricks or her jugs. She's not particularly good-looking, the jugs don't do anything for me, and she's kind of stocky too (which explains part of the jugs I guess).
/r/seduction09/02/11 08:23 PM
1

Oh believe me, I come from a place of extreme AA. Helsinki. Of course things are going to vary for every one of us. But since we're all human beings, we ultimately mostly work in the same way. I'm just saying that I happen to be the kind of person I'd imagine to be a real Natural.. if I had never had any of the insane AA, shyness, awkwardness, nerdiness, and so on. Now the natural me just needs to fully come out of his shell. Now I'm saying things like No Big Deal. But every approach used to be …
/r/seduction09/02/11 02:39 PM
2

What does it mean to "fake confidence"? :P I actually have lots of game when I'm a suitable mood. As I said, I'm in the process of unleashing my Inner Natural.
/r/seduction09/02/11 02:21 PM
1

Hey there. The absolute best material I've seen (out of not much) is "The Blueprint Decoded" by Real Social Dynamics. That's some fucking insightful shit right there, and I've only seen maybe the first five sessions. It tells you about human nature, social conditioning, and the things you need to set yourself free of all that shit. Judging by all the PUA stuff I've seen, RSD is the most "natural" you can get. But other than that, you're in college. In America. As far as I know, the opportunities…
/r/seduction09/02/11 02:04 PM
3

That goes for all people though.
/r/seduction09/02/11 12:16 PM
1

I just want to cut all the bullshit too!
/r/seduction09/02/11 12:16 PM
-6

Good point. He went a bit overboard.
/r/seduction07/02/11 07:36 PM
0

Oh please.
/r/seduction04/02/11 04:03 AM
1

But of course not! And Jessica Alba is a 8.
/r/seduction03/02/11 05:17 PM
1

It would be incredibly scummy to lie or manipulate your way into bed with her Manipulating someone into letting you fuck her is what Seddit discusses every single day, in most posts.
/r/seduction02/02/11 06:50 PM
1

You sound like you spend a lot of time being the "someone else" that's "working" on the girl. It has happened, of course, but I don't remember when the last time was. So no, not a lot of time. All is fair in love and war. Nut up or shut up. Yes, it definitely is human nature to rationalize away your own character flaws.
/r/seduction01/02/11 04:06 AM
-2

I am not sure why you are on this sub-reddit. Because it sometimes still has some valuable information for me. If a woman finds me more attractive than another guy in the bar, I don't feel bad. It's just nature (and seddit) at work. Yeah but see that's just another excuse. You're skirting around the issue, which is you approaching a girl that's being "worked on" by someone else. Stop that shit. It's extremely assholey. If that's difficult for you to understand, then maybe you need to approach th…
/r/seduction30/01/11 09:36 PM
1

As I pointed out to Tofu there, you can tell when a guy is hitting on a girl. Then you only have to avoid being an asshole by trying to steal her from him.
/r/seduction30/01/11 09:19 PM
-4

Lol yes. You can tell when someone's hitting on a woman, and then just.. don't be That Guy.
/r/seduction30/01/11 09:17 PM
-1

Girls will almost always be in groups, often with guys. You either talk to em or you don't. If you don't, you probably won't be talking to the next girl, or the next, etc. That's bullshit/excuses. There's no reason why you couldn't or wouldn't talk to a next girl that's not occupied by anyone at that specific time.
/r/seduction30/01/11 07:43 PM
0

Oh, and I watched the poor AFCs who spent 2 hours chatting her up walk out dejected, with no numbers, during the time this took. You say it like it's some kind of fucking accomplishment to "take someone else's woman". Don't be a fucking asshole. There's no reason why you should go for girls that some poor guy is trying to chat up - that's just mean. Besides, if you want to project an aura of plentiful abundance, that's not really the way to go, is it now? You should have plenty of other options …
/r/seduction30/01/11 07:17 PM
3

Unbelievable.. How did you reach the conclusion that saying that would be in any way constructive or appropriate here?
/r/seduction27/01/11 03:42 PM
4

Why should only men get to enjoy having to risk getting rejected? If you approach a shy nerdy guy, and he considers you attractive, he'll be very happy about it and things should turn out well. As someone said, he may be flustered by a girl approaching him, so give him a moment to recover.
/r/seduction27/01/11 07:23 AM
1

She's around 8 for me. If people here think she's a 10, Seddit really needs some kind of official HB-scale calibration chart. Anyway, don't be so pessimistic. There's no reason why you couldn't get girls like her. Or are you somehow disfigured?
/r/seduction26/01/11 10:26 AM
5

"Next!" (woman)
/r/seduction22/01/11 09:26 PM
8

Huh? In Japan you start touching them right away and it's all good, but in the US it's the opposite?
/r/seduction21/01/11 12:56 PM
2

Good job! It was great to see a field report from someone in your situation (we've all been there) for a change!
/r/seduction16/01/11 03:03 PM
1

Yes yes, that's what you said. But getting laid is getting laid, no matter if it's with high-quality women or filthy skanks.
/r/seduction11/01/11 07:00 AM
1

Seduction is not about getting laid but it's about getting laid? :p Seriously, just like that other poster here pointed out, Seddit (and PUA in general) sure seems to be about getting laid and not much else. An "f-close" is seen as the highest possible achievement in a day/night's work.
/r/seduction10/01/11 11:26 AM
1

Nope. So this post was reported then, and his was not? Strange.
/r/seduction10/01/11 10:41 AM
1

Did you reprimand JT Tran too?
/r/seduction09/01/11 12:21 PM
2

well that's because to be a "guru" your style of woman is often really really hot, and you need to pick up a lot of them. that's the style you need to go with. Why would you need to dress in a specific way to get really really hot women?
/r/seduction06/01/11 09:03 PM
1

It would likely play a part, yes.
/r/seduction06/01/11 09:25 AM
1

The "no game at all" -part is somewhat confusing.
/r/seduction05/01/11 05:17 PM
2

I kiss two more girls (totally random, grabbing them out of the crowd, no game at all. Gotta love NYE) How does this work? :)
/r/seduction05/01/11 10:06 AM
1

What was the question, and why did you think I was a gold digger, let alone a woman?
/r/seduction03/01/11 09:09 PM
1

Try reading next time. It's not based on a time limit. It's based on the nature of the communication. OK, my bad. I was too busy bickering with other people too. Um, what? Why? She'll want to know what you do for a living sooner or later. Most likely sooner.
/r/seduction02/01/11 09:11 PM
0

Nope. No attitude for you. Also, Misdirection is a bad word. I was just deflecting. This has been an evening of amusingly pointless "debates", and not only with you. In case you don't remember, our discussion started when you were being confusing, and "resorted to misdirection" as you said. Misdirection is the word you used, and it was fitting for "worst pick up line ever". Much closer to misdirection than deflection, but whatever. Reading the post might help. So now you quote the fucking line y…
/r/seduction02/01/11 09:09 PM
1

Where's the limit then? 1 hour? 5 hours? 2 dates? You see how ridiculous this is? Or rather, do you see how ridiculous your statement that asking what you do for a living identifies you as a gold digger is? It's just a question, and she'll have to ask it sooner or later, in some form or another.. and then you'll go "a-HA! - I knew you were just a gold digger, BITCH!" But then again, I get the feeling we've ended up here just because you wanted to chime in to oppose me.
/r/seduction02/01/11 06:54 PM
1

Well, now you've been saying something like "don't be yourself if you're an asshole and smell bad", but originally you made it look like the problem with "Just Be Yourself" would be that it's "being an AFC". But I'm tired of bickering with people on Reddit now, so let's just forget the whole thing.
/r/seduction02/01/11 05:27 PM
0

It's nice that some women appreciate that we're trying to be more interesting than the average guy at a bar. That's nice, but did she even say that in whatever post you were replying to? And I just thought you were just posting a snarky comment to diss mine. No I was just curious. So just resorting to misdirection. What's with the attitude, anyway? I'm not allowed to have an "attitude" after you "resort to misdirection"?
/r/seduction02/01/11 05:24 PM
1

The problem is that the interview questions are things that I want to know. But anyone smart enough to be on Reddit should be able to carry on a conversation without resorting to job interview questions. Yeah but aren't we supposed to just spew some happy-happy-joy-joy fun nonsense in the beginning, and save the real conversations for when she actually gives a fuck? I don't want to just rattle off a prepared list of "DHV stories" either, if something like that's what you mean. That feels like bu…
/r/seduction02/01/11 05:19 PM
1

I hope you mean starting with "what do you do for a living?".
/r/seduction02/01/11 05:16 PM
1

Alright, so exactly what the fuck were you trying to say? With both "misinformed people hating on us" and "worst pick up line ever"?
/r/seduction02/01/11 03:36 PM
2

Oh please. All I'm saying is that asking what you do for a living is not a crime, and his joke is really radical as a response to that question. But now I'm done here.
/r/seduction02/01/11 03:34 PM
1

You really think that's a good joke to make to a stranger, to punish him for having the nerve to ask him what he does for a living? Seriously?
/r/seduction02/01/11 03:27 PM
1

Just answer me? If you are a woman, it's somewhat strange that you've been vehemently defending the use of PUA jargon in our earlier discussion.
/r/seduction02/01/11 03:26 PM
2

Hi there! Are you a woman too? :p
/r/seduction02/01/11 03:19 PM
6

"If one more ugly bitch approaches me, I'll throw my drink in her face! That'll show her!"
/r/seduction02/01/11 03:17 PM
5

In other words, have some "material" or a routine?
/r/seduction02/01/11 03:15 PM
-1

Why would you do that, and why is someone who's not into insane people (or jokes) a "prima donna"?
/r/seduction02/01/11 03:11 PM
2

Yeah, it should go without saying that if you're an obnoxious asshole, just being yourself shouldn't get you very far. But people are what they are. There's good folks, and then there's scum. Time to grow, learn, and improve yourself. Nah I'm fine already. Did it seem like I was looking up to you for some sagely advice, by the way, or why did you assume that tone?
/r/seduction02/01/11 02:52 PM
1

Why are you still at it? First, I was talking about "kino" - not "kino escalation". It seems you're just trying to embellish the terminology to make your case seem more valid. Second, here's an exercise: Read some PUA material, and replace every "kino" with "touch" (verb/noun etc as appropriate), and see if it still makes sense. If it does, then "kino" is unnecessary. Yeah I'm sure you could come up with some far-fetched example of why "touch" might not be sufficient, but my point is that when p…
/r/seduction02/01/11 02:47 PM
1

Silly. It's not about "knowing more about this". It's about not coming up with and using needless jargon.
/r/seduction01/01/11 07:42 AM
0

Oh please, stop glorifying the jargon. Touching is touching, it's not really all that scientific. Oh, and there's no need to downvote me for disparaging your beloved jargon - you'd still all be mighty vagina-masters even if you talked about "touching" instead of "kino".
/r/seduction31/12/10 09:23 PM
-1

"touch" seems fairly reasonable.
/r/seduction31/12/10 03:20 PM
-5

That may well be, but it's still lame.
/r/seduction31/12/10 09:34 AM
-1

Yeah but seriously: touch --> umm.. "kinetic"? --> "kino"! That really is kind of lame.
/r/seduction31/12/10 07:47 AM
22

Hey stop hawking your shit here. I don't want a fucking ad slammed in my face when opening an article, even if the article itself is just a sleazy advertisement in disguise. In fact, Mr. TheAsianPlayboy, just do us a favour and kindly fuck the fuck off.
/r/seduction30/12/10 08:29 AM
2

Average Frustrated Chump, a man who's a victim of the social conditioning we all receive while growing up, and has no idea about how women really work. See the sidebar for more.
/r/seduction29/12/10 10:49 AM
1

Either she likes me for myself (note: I don't recommend you be an AFC, I'm not that stupid, and "Just Be Yourself" is NOT what I am saying here!) That seems like a contradiction. What is the self she likes you for, if it's not yourself?
/r/seduction29/12/10 10:43 AM
5

The Aggressive Prick: Should not be your friend in the first place.
/r/seduction27/12/10 03:46 PM
0

But if you were actually awesome you wouldn't need PUA. Well, the good part of all this PUA stuff is the idea of becoming "awesome". For some of us, it means just letting your inner awesomeness out.
/r/seduction27/12/10 01:58 PM
-1

Did our conversation get somewhat de-railed here? :p
/r/seduction26/12/10 03:15 PM
2

"C-level executive" doesn't really say anything to me - it just sounds like an embellishment, but a startup could be anything between "two guys in a basement" to "VC-funded social media blahblah". Is your visa based on that startup now? Did you get your first visa by teaching English?
/r/seduction26/12/10 02:18 PM
2

Alright, my bad. He could still tell us anyway.
/r/seduction26/12/10 12:32 PM
3

Please tell us more about your thoughts on all the manipulation/trickery/tactics etc, and what you think is totally off-base. Judging by your other message up there, you might actually be a bit of a beacon of hope for some men around here. The problem for me is that after seeing this PUA stuff for the first time, I had to accept the reality that there is something to it, even though the thought was unpleasant because it went against the more "pleasant" world-view we're all fed as we grow up. It'…
/r/seduction26/12/10 09:02 AM
1

What I've learned most from this subreddit and really all of reddit is that guys just want girls to be straightforward, and that's the way to tell them that you're interested. That's certainly true for me. Things shouldn't be more difficult than they have to be - life is full of difficulties anyway.
/r/seduction26/12/10 08:44 AM
2

TofuSensei is not an English teacher in Japan then? Wasn't that how reseddit originally introduced you to Seddit? Please just tell us.. We won't accuse you of bragging! :)
/r/seduction26/12/10 08:20 AM
1

i start to see that this girl might actually like me and my brain starts to chase itself with fears that i need to "not fuck this up" and do anything i can to keep her from leaving. Relax. I know, easier said than done. But really, it's not that serious. You can find a suitable girl anywhere - out shopping, at the gym/library/street/night club/coffee shop, etc. If nothing comes out of seeing one specific girl, you'll have other options. Once you have some options, you won't give a shit about whe…
/r/seduction23/12/10 06:14 PM
0

This must be the most fucking futile circle-jerk of the day.
/r/seduction22/12/10 11:04 AM
1

Yeah, even if not in the topic, it would be nice to have a mention of where you are. Maybe even some background information on the place too, or the overall difficulty level. Location: Helsinki Difficulty Level: Hard :)
/r/seduction22/12/10 06:56 AM
2

Great stuff! Although if it was the woman in the pic he posted, I wouldn't have approached her :p (I'd probably have been into the other "SHB" though) But hey, what do you think - wouldn't it be nice if all field reports were tagged with a country code too, like this one? It would give us all more perspective on different places. Maybe we could start some kind of "petition" for country codes? :)
/r/seduction21/12/10 07:38 PM
1

Fucking is not a challenge for me, at all. In fact, it is more of a challenge to not fuck. I am a magnet for fucking, but I want to marry that 28 year old girl. Meanwhile, I have a lineup of women trying to constantly fuck me, so I even had to delete my facebook because things were getting out of control and I don't want the 28 year old getting the idea that I enjoy fucking many women. My friends think Hank Moody was based on me. Sounds doubtful.
/r/seduction21/12/10 07:18 AM
1

Yeah.. :p
/r/seduction20/12/10 07:55 PM
1

.. in Helsinki?
/r/seduction20/12/10 06:53 PM
1

Of course my AFCness played a part in me being alone, but Helsinki sure as fuck did too.
/r/seduction20/12/10 06:39 AM
1

Their pedestal is really fucking high in Helsinki, and everyone thinks talking to someone you don't already know is really scary and weird.
/r/seduction19/12/10 07:15 PM
2

It doesn't happen in Helsinki. A woman there will die alone before she ever approaches a man. Helsinki is the reason why I was an AFC all my life. ( no really )
/r/seduction19/12/10 06:27 PM
5

OMFG What kind of a magical land do you live in, where girls actually approach guys!?
/r/seduction19/12/10 03:09 PM
1

Thanks :p
/r/seduction11/12/10 04:30 PM
2

Thanks for the FR, it's interesting to read stuff "from the other side". But could you finally tell us even the country you're in?
/r/seduction11/12/10 03:37 PM
2

"Pick-Up Artist". The acronym is often used as "all the stuff that pick-up artistry entails" too. Check out the sidebar on the right side of this page.
/r/seduction07/12/10 07:24 AM
1

Yeah but what's the alternative after 6 years of friendship?
/r/seduction05/12/10 07:07 AM
-8

"Do you think we could be more than friends?"
/r/seduction04/12/10 08:32 PM
2

I think what you mean is that average looks don't prevent you from getting a gorgeous woman. Oh, and in Japan, you get bonus points for being white.
/r/seduction04/12/10 04:56 PM
2

"Looks don't matter" .. "make up for bad looks"
/r/seduction04/12/10 04:51 PM
1

But I'm getting tired of teaching preschool kids how to tie their shoes. If having to repeat some basic stuff to various newbies is really that tiresome, then just fucking don't do it? Either way, just stop bitching about it, Your Highness.
/r/seduction04/12/10 06:04 AM
3

Who said I'm not familiar with a lot of "systems" or PUA material in general? My point was just that you're being too aggressive here. You are not entitled to just jump in with your clueless comments when you feel like it. Who gave you the authority to decide when it's alright for someone to try and participate in a discussion here?
/r/seduction04/12/10 05:57 AM
1

Well, you could have been more specific about what "your FRs" would look like. As in, that. By the way, now that you know more about the troubles we men go through, what's your opinion on "the game"?
/r/seduction03/12/10 08:12 AM
0

Helsinki? :p
/r/seduction02/12/10 12:19 PM
1

Try one just for fun though? :)
/r/seduction02/12/10 12:17 PM
1

You are not entitled to just jump in with your clueless comments when you feel like it. Everyone has to start somewhere, and we've all got something to learn.
/r/seduction02/12/10 12:05 PM
1

Alright, that's better :)
/r/seduction01/12/10 05:43 PM
1

Yeah good point, I guess that's human nature then. But it's still a damn shame that even a real relationship isn't worth anything when someone "better" comes along, as long as you believe you have a chance at that someone, that is.
/r/seduction01/12/10 05:09 PM
1

Please stop repeating that tired line about "irrelevant shit" etc.
/r/seduction01/12/10 07:07 AM
1

Sooo.. Let's see if I got this right: When someone says "I have a boyfriend": Sometimes it's just a "defense". Sometimes it's just a shit-test. Sometimes it's true but you'll become hostile if questioned (none of the lines in the OP were insulting). If it's true, it's something you can use to lower her defenses and get to fuck her. I'm surprised you'd suggest that it's our "in", as if a boyfriend didn't actually mean shit to her/you/women in general. But you start being nasty or mocking to me wh…
/r/seduction01/12/10 06:42 AM
0

I can't be bothered to go through your comment history now, but I feel like you've often recommended having lots of stories to tell. -Stories about you doing something interesting that you can use to "DHV". I feel like you've talked about it so often that it seems like it's a central element in pick-up, at least to you. Sure, you shouldn't just spew out those stories without any context in an interaction, because that would just be weird/lame. But still, even though it's like a side-effect of te…
/r/seduction28/11/10 06:49 AM
0

You can ask those questions, but only as a jumping off point for a story Sometimes you sound like it's really important to constantly be rattling off "DHV stories", and the idea frustrates me. Of course, in part it's because I don't have all that many stories to tell. But it just feels like.. bullshit. Wouldn't you prefer a normal conversation instead of a routine where you list reasons for why you're interesting?
/r/seduction27/11/10 07:34 PM
1

Weaksauce.
/r/seduction27/11/10 07:44 AM
1

Riiiiiiiiight, because a common cold stays with you for life!
/r/seduction25/11/10 06:06 AM
1

Oh please. You just wanted to chime in as a contrarian here. Yeah, bacteria live on humans etc. But we were talking about herpes here. It's something that can't be cured, is not a pre-existing condition, and is something you infect to others.
/r/seduction25/11/10 05:24 AM
0

These are only relevant if you contract them from someone first, and then they cause sores to appear.
/r/seduction25/11/10 03:24 AM
-1

Riiight. Such as, and what do they cause?
/r/seduction24/11/10 06:57 AM
3

Well, it's still something that you can't get rid of. If you know you have it, you shouldn't be spreading it around just because you think it's not a big deal.
/r/seduction23/11/10 06:58 PM
1

Actually, you see very few in Finland
/r/seduction23/11/10 05:23 PM
3

Shit.. I had no idea herpes was so widespread! This just goes to show that I haven't "been around" much :p
/r/seduction23/11/10 04:42 PM
7

"A cure for herpes has not yet been developed. Once infected, the virus remains in the body for life." http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Herpes It seems quite contagious, and stays with you for life. SURELY you agree that's not something to be taken lightly.
/r/seduction23/11/10 01:53 PM
6

One in five? I sure hope that's an exaggeration. But yeah, as someone already pointed out, it's not something you keep a secret until after you've potentially given it to someone. I can imagine it would affect your game, yes, and cramp your style quite a bit.
/r/seduction23/11/10 01:48 PM
6

People dating online are seemingly all crazy or fat or both. The women, you mean? :p It's just so much easier for them online. Dating sites are a man-buffet for women, and the fat & ugly ones don't even have to put up a picture - they can lure some unsuspecting victims on a date, because men are used to enduring whatever they have to for a chance at getting some Vaggy
/r/seduction20/11/10 06:06 PM
1

I don't want to associate with chicks who think it's cool to cheat on a guy This is what I was expecting to hear. If it comes up later in the convo, esp. if you've built attraction and she tells you it when you ask for her number, she does have a BF. Someone already suggested the opposite order.. Who knows if the time she says it actually means anything.
/r/seduction16/11/10 06:11 AM
2

Without "more" I'd have had no idea you were trying to say "THAN".
/r/seduction15/11/10 05:05 PM
1

As long as you're not planning on having something meaningful with her, then yeah, I guess that's how it goes.
/r/seduction15/11/10 04:30 PM
1

Yeah well, it would also help if you happened to know he's a fucking retard-asshole, but on the other hand.. The woman could then just leave you for some other alpha someday, if she's that kind of girl.. if "that kind of girls" even exist. I'm confused about life :p
/r/seduction15/11/10 04:28 PM
2

I thought about adding "I don't want to hear the line about irrelevant shit" to the post, but forgot.. :) The question is then, what kind of women will be (able to stay) faithful. And again, you seem to be ready to fuck up her/his relationship. It shouldn't be too difficult to figure out it's something you wouldn't want done to yourself.
/r/seduction15/11/10 03:15 PM
1

It depends on what you're interested in, and if it's sex, are you still getting it from her? If you want sex and are getting it, everything's fine. If you want a relationship but she doesn't, I guess it's time to move on? "OK, see you around then"
/r/seduction15/11/10 03:12 PM
1

Good stuff!
/r/seduction15/11/10 02:28 PM
2

Good point!
/r/seduction15/11/10 02:19 PM
3

Did she actually have one? And are you reeaally enough of a manly macho warrior to see your comment through? Oh, and was she a skank? :p
/r/seduction15/11/10 12:18 PM
2

So, umm.. Fucking up a relationship doesn't bother you at all? Yeah it's technically her decision whether to cheat or not. But how many percent of all women will be able to actually control themselves enough to make that decision, while you're pushing their biological buttons? If they can't, and you know it, then whose decision is it in the end - hers or yours? If it's actually your decision then you've just been using an excuse to fuck up relationships, which is bad mm'kay.
/r/seduction15/11/10 12:14 PM
4

That's probably a good tactic, I generally like Wygant's stuff, but I'm a bit surprised that most people who replied don't seem to mind being That Guy.
/r/seduction15/11/10 12:08 PM
3

A shit-test is something a woman throws your way that's meant to make you hesitate/give up/doubt your chances or whatever. You pass when you're not affected. For example if you ask someone out, she may be like "what?!", to see if you have the determination to repeat asking her out.
/r/seduction13/11/10 09:57 PM
2

Oh they're really easy if you're foreign and/or "alpha", but fucking cold if not. Finnish women tend to be ugly too, though.. :p
/r/seduction12/11/10 07:22 AM
3

I suppose Helsinki is similar. Actually I was about to say Finland, but realized that really, the problem is the Helsinki -area specifically. Women are on a particularly high pedestal, but game works when you have it. I never had any, but I got a shitload of chances purely based on my looks, and then missed them all because I was too blind/cautious/shy/scared. On the plus side, I still have the same advantage, although it doesn't help that much with "older" women.
/r/seduction12/11/10 06:52 AM
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I think it's useless to talk about the "attractiveness" of "composites". In real life, people have different preferences, but still, it should be difficult to find someone who finds Jessica Alba ugly. If you take a hundred men and ask them to rate a specific woman, I'd bet most of their ratings would be within the same 2- or 3-grade range.
/r/seduction11/11/10 06:52 PM
2

In nordic countries, appearance is more important than anything else. I'm from Finland, and I was always a really good-looking AFC, so.. No :p It would be an interesting phenomenon though, if most "PUAs" were American.
/r/seduction11/11/10 03:38 PM
1

an LTR that lasted into my 30s. When that ended, I had a roughly year long dry spell, did a bit of Internet dating to miserable and depressing results (I'd broken up with an 8 and online could only consistently get a 5 to talk to me) You were way ahead of me there :p But yeah, online dating is crazy, and maybe even more imbalanced than in real life. Now, I play the game pretty well, and a pretty good percentage (maybe 10%, maybe more, depends on my emotional state and the environment) of the gir…
/r/seduction07/11/10 01:53 PM
0

I didn't mean to start a lame reddit-circle-jerk though
/r/seduction03/11/10 05:20 PM
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Mine is INTERGALACTUS MAXIMUS. I WIN!
/r/seduction03/11/10 08:40 AM
1

Read your previous message again and think about what it sounded like, or what the message was. Yes, my tone was judgmental, but only because yours sounded like bragging, and like you only wanted to Fuck. It's good to know that's not entirely the case though. Anyway, you could have written a sensible reply like this one, with a completely different message, and we'd have avoided the confrontation. Yes, you could argue that I could have refrained from assuming a judgmental tone, but then we'd get…
/r/seduction02/11/10 11:07 AM
1

Alright, and are you enough of a Mack Daddy to have them know about each other? Sooo.. It sounds like your ultimate goal is just to fuck around like crazy. Is that correct, or should we tone down the "machismo" a bit? You might consider monogamy with "the perfect girl", but if it's not required, you'd just like to continue fucking around like crazy, huh? Are you still capable of some kind of emotional connection with women? Or were you just being "cheeky" again?
/r/seduction02/11/10 10:16 AM
1

Lesser women? :) I don't intend to touch anyone I don't find attractive. Probably HB8+ only. So what I was talking about was conquering many of those. the best way to conquer the great woman is to have her see you conquering the lesser women effortlessly Wouldn't you have to be hanging out with the one you actually want, whilst conquering lesser women to make her interested? That doesn't sound very practical. Pre-selection helps of course, but I don't think it's required (to attract a classy wom…
/r/seduction02/11/10 09:41 AM
1

I know that self-pity is not constructive. Sometimes I just can't help it though, because I'm already kind of old, and still just starting out. At this point I'm not even sure what I want, or what I should aim for. Back in the days, I was blissfully ignorant of all the bullshit in the world, and all the.. well, unfairness/weirdness in how the relationship game works. I always just wanted a relationship. Now I've been feeling like I should conquer as many girls as possible kind of like to make up…
/r/seduction02/11/10 08:28 AM
1

Sounds ever-so-slightly comforting, but no matter what you'd throw at me, I'm confident I'd "win" :p We can swap tales of misery in PMs if you'd like.
/r/seduction01/11/10 05:00 PM
1

In a freaky way.
/r/seduction01/11/10 04:59 PM
1

My achievements in the field of Things To Regret are so magnificent, that it's embarrassing. That's why I didn't want to go into detail.
/r/seduction01/11/10 04:58 PM
1

Without going into detail here, I'm sure I'd beat you in the regret department..
/r/seduction01/11/10 01:38 PM
2

OK that was freaky.
/r/seduction01/11/10 11:06 AM
1

Now you've arrived at supplication again. But nevermind, let's just call it a day.
/r/seduction22/10/10 05:51 AM
1

If it's not enough of an explanation to say that I just feel like helping people, here's an example: Not long ago, I saw some backpacker guy in my hometown, and decided to ask if I could help him. He was looking for a place to stay, so then I ended up walking him to two different motels (which were full), and then called a third one on his behalf, and gave specific instructions on how to reach that place. All this just for the heck of it. I call that being a "nice guy".
/r/seduction21/10/10 05:34 PM
1

I never even said anything about "doing favors". It's just that sometimes I feel like helping people because I kind of like helping people. I'm a pleasant, fun, and nice guy just because that's the way I am.
/r/seduction20/10/10 04:55 PM
1

Umm.. You seem to have somehow concluded that when I talk about being genuinely nice, it means supplication and putting women on a pedestal. I can't imagine how you reached that conclusion, but it's wrong. Maybe it was just some weird distraction though.
/r/seduction20/10/10 08:07 AM
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Not really. I just wanted to point out that no matter how phony you might be as a "nice guy", there are some genuinely nice people around. You're right that in our interactions with people, we tend to automatically behave in whatever way we subconsciously think will "benefit us", or bring about some positive outcome, or just keep the interaction amicable. But that doesn't mean that no one can have a genuine, natural "desire" to be good to others.
/r/seduction19/10/10 03:11 PM
1

Why do you want to be "nice and friendly"? To manipulate people into thinking you're a nice guy. Some of us actually are nice and friendly, without any pretending or manipulation.
/r/seduction19/10/10 07:42 AM
0

Try Calvin Klein - Euphoria.
/r/seduction05/10/10 05:03 AM
3

How about just figuring out whether you'd like to have her as a friend? This shouldn't be a particularly novel idea.
/r/seduction29/09/10 11:54 AM
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It would help if you knew you could just totally kick the douche-retard-jocks' asses if necessary. Then you could just tell them to kindly fuck off. Not that I'd be in a position to do that either..
/r/seduction28/09/10 11:43 AM
1

"Hi! What's your name?"
/r/seduction15/09/10 10:29 AM
1

Getting rejected "hurts", so we avoid it. That's probably closer to it than not wanting to "harm" anyone by approaching them awkwardly.
/r/seduction15/09/10 10:29 AM
3

Depending on the situation, for gay men this can be enough: "Hi. Wanna fuck?" "Sure!" I've seen some article where a bouncer was quoted saying he's heard exchanges like that. Seems perfectly natural, assuming attraction works in the same way for all men.
/r/seduction15/09/10 10:26 AM
1

I bet you're talking about "neuro"-things.
/r/seduction14/09/10 05:00 PM
1

Yep, it seems like there's at least a couple of interpretations for "AMOG". Yours is the less douchey one :p
/r/seduction14/09/10 04:57 PM
2

I thought that when you're "AMOG":ing, you're trying to steal some other guy's woman, which is, of course, an extremely assholey thing to do. Just because you can (or might be able to), doesn't mean you should. But yeah I guess there are various interpretations.
/r/seduction14/09/10 04:56 PM
5

But what's AM-Other-Guy about what you're doing?
/r/seduction14/09/10 08:19 AM
1

You did notice I was aware I should stop doing that, right?
/r/seduction11/09/10 07:34 AM
3

Sometimes I still end up kind of laughing nervously when approaching someone. I should probably stop doing that.. :p That was a pretty good strategy with a touch of self-distraction though :)
/r/seduction10/09/10 05:10 AM
2

I was totally scared shitless before my first day-approach in public. I paced around for like 30 minutes before finally deciding I just fucking had to do it, and marched over to the store next door, and asked the cute sales clerk out :) She had a boyfriend, but her reaction was very positive, which helped me feel good about the whole thing. Don't give up if you happen to encounter some mean bitch.
/r/seduction09/09/10 10:16 AM
1

Nice work, it seems. Tell us more about the party you ruled!
/r/seduction08/09/10 06:57 AM
8

Refusing to speak to you for three weeks because of a dream.. That's just stupid and there's no way around it. Surely you wouldn't claim that most women would do the same?
/r/seduction23/08/10 06:55 PM
2

Is she stupid or what?
/r/seduction23/08/10 04:11 PM
2

If you're really a girl, it's enough for you to not be fat and/or ugly. Then you just sit back and wait for guys to approach you. But, if you really are a girl, and you're approaching guys, I'd like to thank you on behalf of my gender - what you're doing is really great! He mentions that he thinks Asian girls are cute, which may or may not have been an IOI. Oh believe me, it was.
/r/seduction22/08/10 08:21 PM
1

How do you like the idea of them discussing you(r sex life) etc behind your back?
/r/seduction20/08/10 04:29 PM
2

Well then, maybe you could just tell her? Let her know you'd like her to be your girlfriend, but you're a decent human being so you don't want to kiss (yes it's cheating)/grope/fuck anyone's girlfriend. So, if she wants you too, she just needs to wrap up her current relationship without any help from you. She needs to "be a man about it" :p and deal with her own shit herself. That's what I'd do.
/r/seduction19/08/10 05:48 PM
2

Yep. Don't do it. You wouldn't want someone to steal your girl either. This shouldn't be a difficult problem. There are some people here "DHV":ing Seddit by announcing they don't care because they're somehow above all that shit so they just go for the girls anyway, as if getting cheated on wouldn't hurt them too. Besides, a couple of months ago, I was talking to some woman at a nightclub, and she mentioned she thought it's annoying when men stop gaming her when they hear that she's got a boyfrie…
/r/seduction18/08/10 08:16 PM
1

This was the best possible answer.
/r/seduction24/07/10 02:11 PM
2

You can only really dance if you're feeling the music. Otherwise it's just.. you performing some routine, or doing what you think you're supposed to do on a "boom" or a "chick", etc. That guy with the 550 upvotes sounds like he doesn't really dance. But he does talk about something that comes naturally to those who do, such as smiling, and moving your hips. This is what happens when you really dance - dancing is fun, so it makes you smile, and when dancing, you tend to end up moving your hips to…
/r/seduction24/07/10 12:34 AM
0

Oh please. Now you're suddenly too important to talk to anyone? Give me a break. Any other lame distraction stunts up your sleeve, or are you ready to give up and tacitly admit you lost the argument? Not that you ever really participated in it, though.
/r/seduction22/07/10 06:13 PM
1

Maybe in small part because of that stereotype, but I bet it's mostly just because the best Japanese girls really just are way too stunning. That's at least half of why I want to live there. Are you in a small town, by the way? What's it like there?
/r/seduction21/07/10 07:09 PM
1

Such a fiendishly clever distraction! I bet you can't come up with a logical counter-argument to what I said.
/r/seduction21/07/10 07:05 PM
1

Is it safe to assume that it's alright for someone to beat the shit out of you just for fun then? That would make sense, right? It's just that if you don't agree that picking fights with strangers is bad, that's the only logical conclusion. It seems more likely that you're just a puppet account for the guy I was talking about. You can always count on people being lame.
/r/seduction21/07/10 05:50 AM
1

The reason they're almost all guys (anywhere in Japan) is that they've come there for the gorgeous Japanese girls. I was hoping Osaka would have (noticeably) less foreigners than Tokyo, but maybe not then?
/r/seduction19/07/10 05:38 AM
1

If someone picks fights with random strangers, it makes him a shitbag, and his inner turmoil is irrelevant to that. Besides, it's not like we don't all have our own problems.
/r/seduction19/07/10 05:32 AM
1

"A sexehhh friend?"
/r/seduction18/07/10 11:55 AM
3

You mentioned foreigners are a rare sight, but where in Japan do you live? As for your approach, all that matters is that you made one :)
/r/seduction18/07/10 11:54 AM
2

But I've been more interested in picking fights with random dudes and getting blackout drunk than holding a conversation with another dumb blonde for 15 seconds. What. The. Fuck? Picking fights with strangers? Just because you're a world-class shitbag, or perhaps some other reason? Also, getting "blackout drunk" might not be the best idea ever either.
/r/seduction16/07/10 06:48 PM
1

I suggested just telling her that the other guy talked shit about her. Why? -Because that's what happened, so why pretend otherwise? And because I'd want to nip that bullshit right in the bud. If you want to theorize about what's "AFC" and what's "Alpha", I'd say that just flat out refusing to play bullshit games would lean on the alpha side, but maybe that's just me. If the PoonHolder doesn't agree, that's her problem, and one might even argue that this attitude would be "alpha" too. But actual…
/r/seduction16/07/10 04:29 PM
4

Why does it have to be a sad game like this? Why are you going out together, with him too? What the fuck? Maybe she's just arranged some entertainment for herself - it must be fun to watch two guys "fight" over her. Heck, maybe she's secretly hoping for an actual fight? That's all bullshit. I'd just tell her straight what happened: "that guy called me to talk shit about you". Then it would be up to her to decide if she believes you, how the information affects the situation (if at all) - and whi…
/r/seduction15/07/10 06:55 PM
1

The confusion was about "panting" vs blowing you, and when those happened.
/r/seduction17/06/10 11:48 AM
1

I refuse to do so, and instead of challenging me for dominance like an Alpha would he gave up and walked away with her. So you wanted him to say something like "fuck off or I'll fuck you up", and then follow through with that? That would have been "alpha"? Would you have done exactly that in his shoes, just to show off how "alpha" you are?
/r/seduction15/06/10 09:54 AM
1

I think pick up artist/ NLP/ whatever guys are creepy and I don't like them Sounds good, but what happens if one of them comes across you? They can't have you no matter how good they are? Thank you for understanding men's point of view too. You're right about the umm.. social dynamics of dating. It's fucked up.
/r/seduction14/03/10 06:19 PM
3

"Boys have a penis and girls have a vagina".. The problem is that girls don't have to do anything to meet guys. Only the ones you wouldn't want anyway do. This is just a wild guess pulled out of my ass, but I bet there's no such thing as "female PUA".
/r/seduction04/03/10 08:13 PM
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