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No no, sexual "human trafficking" is literally any prostitute in a car. Even if they are essentially enslaved by oppression & exploitation, it's silly to blame some car driver (who's often a former prostitute herself) who takes the poor women to where the money is. Who's to blame? Instead of the driver? Blame the economic system which oppresses them. Blame the lobbyists, the powerful, etc.
/r/MensRights03/12/17 12:50 PM
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Sex trafficking Involuntary sex industries are one of the most heinous crimes Fixed that for you. "Sex trafficking" is just a vague Orwellian term that needs to be replaced with some more specific language.
/r/MensRights02/12/17 10:10 PM
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Can we all just agree Human Trafficking is a disease that needs to be eradicated? No, because "human trafficking" is a purposely vague term which is used to move the blame for sexual exploitation from economic systems to some poor (often prostitute herself) woman driving a car. And disliked behaviors are not "diseases." When you start speaking of people as diseases (eg some woman simply driving other poo women across a border) that could be another desperate person just trying to find a moral no…
/r/MensRights02/12/17 10:07 PM
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I see so many comments here about black people. Hint: there's endless videos of police targeting random innocent black people just for standing there being black. ie, it's technically both. Both: the destruction of the two parent family and a crooked "justice" system That are hurting boys/men. But it's not just blacks, everyone talking about just blacks here is getting off topic. Boys generally are being hurt by these things.
/r/MensRights25/11/17 05:22 PM
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labelled insane "Insanity" is a religious idea, there is no scientific tool ('insanitometer' or something) that measures a single damaged brain cell or damaged gene. If you are accused of being different or "bad"/inferior somehow, based on other's subjective opinions about you, dishonest people can dismiss the person as born "insane" instead of admitting that other people have different interpretations of the world. Even if they're wrong, eg religion, or trusting politicians, that is not "insani…
/r/TheRedPill18/10/17 06:42 PM
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The words 'objective' and 'subjective' do not belong to science, nor are they defined by scientists. That's what science-haters like to say. You hijack scientific language and redefine it to pretend you're a scientist when you're not. So you're relying on I'm not relying on anything Feynman said. Everything I said (by itself) debunks everything you said. Feynman's explanation is just an alternative debunk to your absurd purposeful science-hating ignorance.
/r/MensRights10/11/16 04:04 PM
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but the standards by which we objectively judge art "Objectively judge art." /sigh /sigh /sigh and there are standard of how we do it, what things can be included. Again, it changes all the time. But more importantly even if you were right (that there was a standard way to do something) that doesn't mean it's not subjective. There can be a standard way to pick the "best" artist, but that's still subjective. You have no idea what these words mean, even though I explained them to you. You are igno…
/r/MensRights10/11/16 03:48 PM
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The calculations made and formulae used in 2015 to establish the GDP You're confused. It's purely subjective how you even count "GDP." eg, it keeps changing due to new industries being counted to help make a nation's GDP look like it's increased more than it has. That's not science, that's subjective. the goods that countries trade, likewise with the processes banks made, likewise with the profits of an organisation. Economics is not studying the physical properties of the universe, eg the atoms…
/r/MensRights10/11/16 03:27 PM
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economics for example, requires a deep understanding of the complex financial processes which take place on a global scale, it requires a knowledge of GDP and the surrounding calculations, how growth and inflation work, how we value products All of that is subjective. "Subjective existing in the mind; belonging to the thinking subject rather than to the object of thought (opposed to objective ). " -- http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/subjective eg a chemist's physical measurement, via physi…
/r/MensRights10/11/16 02:38 PM
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economics... politics, sociology... an enormous amount of subjectivity Those are 100% subjective. Actual science has physical repeatable experiments (ie physical units of measurement) & thus accuracy/repeatability. eg chemistry & physics. History (in contrast) is often based on physical evidence, but a lot of what's assumed to be history is just assumption. because they're subjective That's one reason. or because you perceive it to be the ruling class who ascribe importance It's not that the rul…
/r/MensRights10/11/16 01:49 PM
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a long time teaching musicians how to perfect their craft, What's the best style of music is a subjective opinion. A musician could say all of that "teaching" is inferior old ideas, and that's also just another subjective opinion not inferior to yours. The study of these fields, the techniques, the history, the analysis are surely worthy of a degree study by people who are interested. FTFY. You should not get a degree for having the subjective opinions of the ruling class. you don't mean things …
/r/MensRights10/11/16 12:06 PM
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There shouldn't even be college degrees for the subjective opinion fields. Bullying younger generations into regurgitating subjective opinions != education. It's a form of propaganda.
/r/MensRights10/11/16 09:11 AM
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"Fucking bureaucrats" is not an accurate explanation of any of my arguments. But I am against bureaucrats, especially violent/state ones who assault people to bully society into regurgitating their subjective opinions.
/r/MensRights02/11/16 03:37 AM
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You've already made numerous personal attacks against sources of books That's twisting what I said, but even if it's true it's irrelevant: It's not a logical fallacy to use personal attacks like "a murderer is bad." But if your entire post is a personal attack, to cover up how you have made no logical counter argument, that's irrational. That's why you surrendered the debate.
/r/MensRights02/11/16 02:31 AM
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[personal attacks] That's not a logical argument that I'm wrong. Thank you for surrendering the debate.
/r/MensRights02/11/16 02:13 AM
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k that the poor don't get access to the same materials You're confused and you're still trying to save face. How a person learns knowledge from language is irrelevant: knowledge learned via language is the same whether it's from an expensive bureaucracy or cheap source, like videos & pdfs. That leaves hands on training. The vast majority of which can be learned on on-the-job training, among things. Basically, for everything but some very rare hands-on training (eg medical surgeons) there is no n…
/r/MensRights02/11/16 02:09 AM
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[emotion] That's not a logical argument that I'm wrong. Thank you for surrendering the debate.
/r/MensRights02/11/16 01:37 AM
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you will not find elsewhere Again, "If there's anything of value (not just trivia) in those books the same information will be in upcoming books." Again, it's probably mostly too trivial to be in the thousands of other ww2 books. Again, "If someone is interested in a specific volume of that book they'll just buy it." I'm repeating myself because you can't read/comprehend what I'm saying.
/r/MensRights02/11/16 01:29 AM
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Everything I just explained still applies. Even if it's a "landmark piece of literature", which is a subjective opinion: There are thousands of other WW2 books and many more upcoming books. That is not the one source of information on WW2. If there's anything of value (not just trivia) in those books the same information will be in upcoming books If someone is interested in a specific volume of that book they'll just buy it. So basically, everything I just wrote debunked your view. I'm just repe…
/r/MensRights02/11/16 01:22 AM
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and it contains information you will not find elsewhere. You're still confused. There's thousands of WW2 books. If the information is not elsewhere (in the thousands of other books and upcoming books) it's almost surely too trivial to be put elsewhere. Someone could make a book of all the information about france in 1856 you could possibly collect, that doesn't mean it's of any value. Even the cheapest paperback issues cost around $100 per volume. Then 1) workers interested would buy it, and 2) …
/r/MensRights02/11/16 01:10 AM
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Just buying the book without the tutoring plan is actually far cheaper. /sigh /sigh /sigh And normal people can buy a book on a subject without being required to get the professor's personal expensive book, ie can learn about a subject without getting ripped off. So people buy books, or just download the PDF version these days.
/r/MensRights01/11/16 06:05 PM
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You do realize journals cost money, right? That's just getting the info a little earlier. Practically all the info of value ends up put in books/etc. /sigh /sigh /sigh
/r/MensRights01/11/16 08:37 AM
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[illiteracy] You're still trying to save face. rare information? Just like someone in a bureaucratic/bullying setting, the answer is rarer information takes more time to find. The reverse cannot be said. This isn't being fair. The experience of being a normal person, not a privileged pseudo-intellectual, is a huge collection of important information about how the economy actually functions and how society actually functions. (In contrast to the imaginary and silly economic/etc fantasies of many …
/r/MensRights01/11/16 06:35 AM
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I didn't even [say] I disagree. Stop trying to save face. No, they don't have the same access to educational resources Again, that's practically always wrong: the info is the same whether it's a live classroom, recording of a live classroom, book, pdf of the book, etc.
/r/MensRights01/11/16 05:41 AM
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Incorrect. I debunked you so strongly that you are pretending I didn't, and trying to save face. Your positions are not rational- they're just assumptions. You assume the worst of the poor and the working class.
/r/MensRights01/11/16 04:57 AM
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1 year of trade vs 4 years of study. That's not what it is. It's one person who's capable of studying for many decades vs another, one who just spent more time in bureaucracy. -- me are most likely not going about reading or studying during or after receiving their cert., That's a silly assumption which the very wealthy want you to believe, they teach you to assume the worst of the poor and the working class. /sigh Again: "You're assuming that people only learn in a bureaucratic setting. Really …
/r/MensRights01/11/16 04:41 AM
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You never said anything about factual though Oh please. You're trying to save face for your reading failure. It's implied I'm talking about facts. "Someone with a degree is...more educated than a person with a trade as education is directly tied to knowledge," Again, I debunked that. "You're assuming that people only learn in a bureaucratic setting. Really the person who went to a trade school could study practically every day and not just on the subjects of their job." -- me Mean "education is …
/r/MensRights01/11/16 04:28 AM
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It doesn't matter whether the source was watching a live classroom, a book, a video, or a PDF. (Or many other things.) It kind of does if you want your knowledge to be the truth, You're confused. I'm explaining if there's a factual sentence said in a live classroom it could be recorded and read in a book, video, pdf, etc and it's the same thing. /sigh Someone who went to university studying for 4 years will know more than someone who spent a year or less on a trade. You're confused: You're assum…
/r/MensRights01/11/16 03:32 AM
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More educated? No. You're misunderstanding what education is. Actual education is about knowledge, not bureaucratic levels. It doesn't matter whether the source was watching a live classroom, a book, a video, or a PDF. (Or many other things.) If there's a factual sentence said in a live classroom it could be recorded and read in a book, video, pdf, etc and it's the same thing. ie, other than some rare dangerous hands on training it just doesn't matter. And millions of women go to college primari…
/r/MensRights01/11/16 03:02 AM
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about groupies. Being a "groupie" is not consenting to having your genitals grabbed. "If you grope someone and hope they aren't upset by it that's more like a mild sexual assault." -- me
/r/MensRights13/10/16 01:50 PM
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I didn't interpret Trump's statements to mean he 'moved on' a woman only once it was clear that she was consenting to sexual touching.
/r/MensRights13/10/16 01:33 PM
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to consensual groping That's your interpretation of Trump's words. If you grope someone and hope they aren't upset by it that's more like a mild sexual assault.
/r/MensRights13/10/16 11:29 AM
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This isn't the same as accusations vs normal guys, mainly because he admitted groping women. I don't consider it very relevant to men's human rights.
/r/MensRights13/10/16 08:02 AM
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Great post.
/r/MensRights12/10/16 06:22 AM
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It's nothing but male-hating discrimination by the fake teachers in the fake schools.
/r/MensRights05/10/16 05:18 PM
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As long as people say men should "get help" (eg therapy) nothing will change- for many men that is not help. It's just helping therapists & other "mental health" profiteers make money. Men need real life solutions and the people advocating "mental health help" are not interested in solving those. They want to tell men to feel better about themselves (ie bullshit) without changing the status quo.
/r/MensRights29/09/16 07:54 PM
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Do you seriously think psychologists haven't grappled with these questions? "Grappling" with questions is not scientific evidence that any behavior/feeling (which you morally disapprove of) is an illness. The psychiatrists are just pretending- they're fake doctors with fake illnesses and fake "medicine" (hint- it's just drugs, not medicine for any illness.) and the future of psychology itself in the face of advances in neuroscience, You're confused. First the topic is psychiatry, and second psyc…
/r/MensRights28/09/16 12:42 PM
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the entire field of clinical psychology There is no "clinical" psychology. All you're doing is using pseudo-medical language to try to disguise moral philosophy (psychiatry) as medicine. To be frank, you're using circular reasoning. You believe moral disapproval for behaviors/feelings is "medical" because you believe it. You haven't made any logical argument that any of this moral shaming/disapproval is actual evidence for a physical illness. (eg physical damage, not physical differences.) Being…
/r/MensRights28/09/16 12:36 AM
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What is the suffering experienced by the patient There is no patient. Saying "patient" assumes the behaviors/feelings which are morally disapproved of are illnesses. Life is full of suffering, & it's a subjective opinion to imagine that some types of alleged suffering are a "mental illness." People suffer because of real life reasons & the government wants to pretend it's all "mind illness".
/r/MensRights27/09/16 11:33 PM
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Parental alienation isn't a mental illness, it's a societal phenomenon All so called "mental illnesses" are just social phenomenon. A "mental illness" is only a label for alleged behaviors/feelings, not a real/physical illness: Allen Frances: (The chairman in charge of creating the DSM-IV.) "Mental disorders don't really live ‘out there’ waiting to be explained. They are constructs we have made up - and often not very compelling ones." -- Allen Frances in “DSM in Philosophyland: Curiouser and Cu…
/r/MensRights27/09/16 01:38 PM
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Thank you for saying mental "issues" instead of far more dehumanizing language like "mental illness" (which assumes the person is some brain damaged lunatic.) If you help people in real life their mental issues get better.
/r/MensRights27/09/16 12:12 PM
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Not elderly. Please delete this thread since it's lying for clickbait attention and embarrassing the subreddit.
/r/MensRights25/09/16 09:00 PM
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The 2.7 homeless women On average "homeless women" don't tend to be nearly as homeless as men. The government will count all sorts of women as homeless. A woman in a fancy women's shelter may be called homeless while ten men freeze on the streets.
/r/MensRights22/09/16 03:34 PM
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He actually just gave me pills so he wouldn't have to worry about me killing myself That's not a disease.
/r/PussyPass18/09/16 10:19 AM
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[no logical arguments that I'm wrong.] I debunked everything you said.
/r/PussyPass18/09/16 10:09 AM
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[no logical arguments that I'm wrong.]
/r/PussyPass18/09/16 09:54 AM
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. If there is something wrong with the chemicals in your brain, "In truth, the ‘chemical imbalance' notion was always a kind of urban legend - never a theory seriously propounded" -- psychiatrictimes.com/blogs/couch-crisis/psychiatry%E2%80%99s-new-brain-mind-and-legend-%E2%80%9Cchemical-imbalance%E2%80%9D There is no "mental illness" linked to chemical "imbalances." And the phrase "chemical imbalances" assumes there should be certain specific amounts of a chemical in your brain, as if being diff…
/r/PussyPass18/09/16 09:15 AM
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i said mental illness it real because depression is real (and depression is a mental illness) You're so confused. Look at the last part. That's circular reasoning. I'll explain what an argument is. Assertion: "X is true." Argument: "X is true because Y evidence/reasoning." Your assertion is your evidence, thus circular reasoning. Depression is literally categorized as a mental illness, Being gay was once "categorized" as a mental illness. The state can define any behavior as an illness- but that…
/r/PussyPass18/09/16 02:46 AM
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There's a difference between emotions and feelings. Neither are an illness. If your emotions are constantly negative there is something wrong, That's not an illness. That's normal life, and some people deal with it with more strength than others.
/r/PussyPass18/09/16 02:34 AM
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The proof that depression exists is proof the mental illness exists because depression is a mental illness. This is all circular reasoning. "X is true because X is true" is circular reasoning. Your assertion (depression is an illness) is true (according to you) because "depression is an illness." All you have is circular reasoning. You can't argue why being sad/depressed is an illness.
/r/PussyPass18/09/16 02:22 AM
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depression is proof of mental illness, because depression is a mental illness. That's circular reasoning. Sadness/depression is an emotion. It exists as an emotion. It's not an illness.
/r/PussyPass18/09/16 02:11 AM
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mental illness doesn't exist? And now you're saying that that depression isn't an illness, Same thing. Sadness/depression is an emotion, not an illness. It's not a "mental illness." No feelings are illnesses.
/r/PussyPass18/09/16 01:14 AM
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You quoted people. That's not evidence. You're in denial. And again, while I provided tons of evidence, the skeptic only needs need to point out there is no evidence for what another person claims exists.
/r/PussyPass18/09/16 12:25 AM
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That was not proof that depression is biological. It's biological evidence for depression. Language isn't your strong point. "Biological evidence" for depression (or any emotion being biological) isn't evidence that it's an illness.
/r/PussyPass18/09/16 12:14 AM
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and if there is something wrong with your emotions, that is damaging to you and even the people around you. It is an illness. That's a subjective opinion, not a real/physical illness. ie, it's just pretending in an illness which isn't there. you would see that medical marijuana has helped people who aren't just "pot smokers" That doesn't mean there's any illness or that pot is medicine. because you have no evidence yourself. Wrong. I provided tons of evidence even though I didn't have to.
/r/PussyPass17/09/16 02:04 PM
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here you go. Nope. Showing that depression is biological (all emotions are) is not evidence that it's an illness. You could show happiness is biological and that doesn't make happiness a disease either. A real/physical illness (eg cancer) has physically measurable damage or physical loss of function. (ie it's measured with physical units of measurement & thus accuracy/repeatability.) Psychologytoday.com: By calling sadness “depression” or restlessness “attention deficit disorder” it secretly imp…
/r/PussyPass17/09/16 01:49 PM
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You are claiming that mental illness does exist, but is just emotions. Which is exactly what it is, emotions that are fucked up. It is called an illness because you can't control your emotions. You're admitting it's not a real illness. A real/physical illness (eg cancer) has physically measurable damage or physical loss of function. (ie it's measured with physical units of measurement & thus accuracy/repeatability.) Or a disease that you have in your genes You're asserting "mental illness" is ca…
/r/PussyPass17/09/16 01:06 PM
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why are there medications that actually help? Beer, marijuana, lsd, etc help people according to people taking them. You can't assume that because a drug has an effect that the previous condition was a disease. Mental illness and mental condition are essentially the same thing. It sounds like you're admitting these "illnesses" are imaginary, and all that exists is mental conditions. ie changing things based on people's philosophy and real life struggles. mental illnesses like depression do make …
/r/PussyPass17/09/16 12:42 PM
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A large amount of mental illnesses have been scientifically explained, Again, I debunked that. Allen Frances: (The chairman in charge of creating the DSM-IV.) "Mental disorders don't really live ‘out there’ waiting to be explained. They are constructs we have made up - and often not very compelling ones." -- Allen Frances in “DSM in Philosophyland: Curiouser and Curiouser” in AAP&P Bulletin vol 17, No 2 of 2010 Thomas Insel: Former director of the NIMH “Diagnoses are based on a consensus about c…
/r/PussyPass17/09/16 03:20 AM
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This was really good until he started using the whole "men are more likely to be mentally ill" pseudo science. A "mental illness" is only a label for behaviors/feelings a person is accused of. Men are simply more likely to be accused of such- it covers up real life problems and economic injustice. Allen Frances: (The chairman in charge of creating the DSM-IV.) "Mental disorders don't really live ‘out there’ waiting to be explained. They are constructs we have made up - and often not very compell…
/r/PussyPass17/09/16 01:03 AM
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The vast majority of spending should go towards the forms of false allegations men have to deal with. If people just asked women if they started fights, hit men, etc they've often blatantly admit it. There's so much easy information.
/r/MensRights29/08/16 02:52 PM
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He told me I was feeling good. They're terrible and I'm sorry you have to deal with them. government-insured health care you can expect in Ontario, Anywhere where there's a government monopoly on health care is going to be terrible, eg the USA and about every country. it is actually run by mental patients. There is no such thing. There is no physical measurement for insanity- "insanity" is a religious myth. And the people called "mental patients" are in reality just prisoners who are accused of …
/r/MensRights26/08/16 04:41 AM
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I wish there were more videos of this generally. I mean, of people recording doctor's visits. There's so much potential bullshit that could be caught on tape.
/r/MensRights25/08/16 02:25 PM
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Instead you'd rather take what others have earned at the literal point of a gun. The irony. Because that's what I'm trying to end. It's capitalists who use violence to exploit workers. It's capitalists who simply redistribute value they've stolen with state violence. If that redistribution is ended the workers will keep the full product of their work, not losing a share of their income to various absentee land owner parasites exploiting them. It's you. If you endorse a capitalist/state economy y…
/r/MensRights13/08/16 03:44 PM
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If you don't buy it, you get no land. Again: You're just asserting what you want, not making an argument that the current capitalist land system is not both violent & parasitic. I literally just explained this. Me: "That's not an argument that the current system is not both violent and parasitic. You're trying to save face because I debunked you. Again: "[capitalist property] violently deprives workers of natural & pre-existing things of value (eg land & it's resources) unless they surrender par…
/r/MensRights12/08/16 09:28 PM
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If you want land, go get a job That's not an argument that the current system is not both violent and parasitic. You're trying to save face because I debunked you. Again: "[capitalist property] violently deprives workers of natural & pre-existing things of value (eg land & it's resources) unless they surrender part of their production. (To their attacker.) ie, the gunman/capitalist who claimed such did not create such value (eg the land & it's resources) but is depriving the people who need/want…
/r/MensRights12/08/16 08:08 PM
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You're confused. If someone is pretending capitalist police states aren't based violence (eg trespassing laws) and exploitation I can guess with good accuracy that they use such violence (eg absentee land ownership) to exploit the landless working class. And I'm an anarchist. "Capitalism" is just disguising a police state with the language of business, and I want all states abolished. Deal with it.
/r/MensRights12/08/16 04:27 PM
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I believe we have a different understand as to what violence is. Don't lie. Trespassing laws are using threats/violence to allow a social class of parasitic absentee land owners to own practically all the land to exploit workers. If you ignorantly and irrationally mean offering on-the-job training employment opportunities to other people That's probably spin. You probably mean (ie are disguising) that your violence/property violently deprives workers of natural & pre-existing things of value (eg…
/r/MensRights12/08/16 04:20 PM
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[word twisting] That's not what I'm saying. And your "success" is most likely using violence to exploit workers. The same type of "success" a mugger has.
/r/MensRights12/08/16 04:07 AM
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Then why haven't you started a co-op Maybe I have. I am not telling you about my personal life. about other people making more money than you? That isn't the topic. The topic is violent exploitation of workers. The main form of capitalist property (absentee land ownership) is violent exploitation because it violently deprives workers of natural & pre-existing things of value (eg land & it's resources) unless they surrender part of their production. (To their attacker.) ie, the gunman/capitalist …
/r/MensRights12/08/16 12:19 AM
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That's only relevant if I were to start a non-exploitative business, eg a worker's co-op where the workers are in charge and keep their full production/income. Next, even if all the fairly well off people did this it would not solve the problem. The poorest workers are still violently exploited and bullied by the corporate police state.
/r/MensRights11/08/16 06:18 PM
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that food, water, shelter, and quality of life take labor to provide Some. The vast majority of work today is a mix of busy work and utterly pointless crap. A rational society, especially with advanced 3d printing and machines (eg dense crop growing machines), could easily barely work at all. And (if this happens) we may come to enjoy a lot of such "work" because it was real. Because it had strong benefits to society and sometimes ourselves, and because we'd be in charge instead of forced to ser…
/r/MensRights11/08/16 04:04 PM
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Every time I hear "Marxist" or "cultural Marxist" brought up that's a downvote. The constant word-twisting of Marx's works is entirely off topic and is not a gender issue.
/r/MensRights11/08/16 04:39 AM
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If the "gender gap" exists with all female teachers, but not with the previous mixed gender teachers, then you have discrimination against boys. ie, it's not a real gender gap created by boys, but a fake one created by male hating teachers.
/r/MensRights11/08/16 04:35 AM
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Calling therapy & "mental health" profiteering "help" is nonsense. Men have real life problems. That's why men have stress etc. It's not some silly "stress disorder" that can just be labeled and talked away. Only solving real life problems is a solution. Talking to a "therapist", ie someone who will pretend to be your friend for shocking money, is not that.
/r/MensRights10/08/16 10:43 PM
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largest mental institution in America is a prison which should tell you something right there. They're all prisons. That's all they are. "Prison. A place or condition of confinement or forcible restraint." -- thefreedictionary.com/prison And there's no "illnesses" being treated. These are people being accused of "bad"/immoral things and assumed guilty. They're kidnapped, assaulted, forcefully drugged, etc. Really a "mental illness" is only a label for alleged behaviors/feelings, not a real/physi…
/r/MensRights05/08/16 12:56 PM
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which toppled the last Communist regimes Nope. That is not an accurate history of the USSR/etc. And every large state is guilty of problems with diplomacy, resources, etc. And every state at some point breaks apart somehow, that does not mean it was a failure. The USSR saved the world from the Nazis, was first in space, and lead the world in grain production for a long time. Later problems can not remove that history. In contrast many large nations got rich off centuries of African slavery which…
/r/MensRights31/07/16 10:00 PM
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if you force the capitalist class to redistribute wealth from capitalists to workers, No. That's not the issue. That doesn't have to happen if the redistribution of wealth from worker to capitalist is stopped. only way out is to get rid of the money period. I disagree. , then soon enough the working class just become the new capitalist class No. The "capitalist class" is not simply whoever has the most money. It's practically all absentee land owners, but also various people profiting via state …
/r/MensRights31/07/16 08:25 PM
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Privilege theory is about redsitribution of resources You're assuming anti- capitalists are for redistribution of wealth, when really that's capitalists redistributing wealth. Anyone against capitalist exploitation wants to end the violent redistribution of wealth from worker to the capitalist class. (So the worker who creates some value keeps the full product of their work.) It's the western media which confuses people to not see that theft/redistribution.
/r/MensRights31/07/16 06:57 PM
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The solution to men's problems is not paying therapists to pretend to be your friend (as long as you have money.) Such "mental health care" does not solve men's real life problems. Any rant about gender that transforms into a rant about "Marxism" is not good. Practically everyone ranting about Marx has no idea what he said. His arguments for abolishing the state & gaining a stateless/anarchist society have nothing to do with modern gender debates.
/r/MensRights31/07/16 02:12 PM
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Did you skip a word in the title?
/r/MensRights28/07/16 01:05 PM
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It is also scientifically impossible to prove that consciousness actually exists. That's not evidence that behaviors/feelings which you morally dislike are "illnesses." A real/physical illness (eg cancer) has physically measurable damage or physical loss of function. (ie it's measured with physical units of measurement & thus accuracy/repeatability.) I'm saying psychiatrists are moral philosophers (good behavior = "healthy" and bad behavior = "mentally ill.") You're not making an argument that I…
/r/MensRights19/07/16 04:29 AM
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I, myself, could not just go out and pull this kind of behavior. Wrong- you could choose to be an abusive person. But even if that wasn't true, if someone was born with a different personality (which you can not prove) that's not a disease. Being different != a disease. then when the police show up start bawling on cue and make up a story of how much I was abused. You could, but the police (due to sexism) would not care. Sexism by the state is not normal civilians having a disease/disorder. seco…
/r/MensRights18/07/16 09:06 PM
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Have you never had a run in with such a person? A person having an "abusive personality" is not a disease/disorder. It's just name-calling but it's using medical style language to push the assumption of guilt. If there's a disagreement: both sides often think the other person has an "abusive personality." And labeling one of them with a "disorder", or both, is not evidence of who is guilty of such. There's nothing medical/scientific about just pretending that name-calling is a physical disease/d…
/r/MensRights18/07/16 06:45 PM
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Made up "disorders" like "Abusive Personality Disorder" are used against men all the time. There is no such thing. It's not okay when either gender uses pseudo-medical language to dehumanize the other gender.
/r/MensRights18/07/16 06:20 PM
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[no logical argument that I'm wrong about anything.] I expected nothing more from you.
/r/PussyPassDenied01/07/16 04:06 PM
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accrediting agencies If it's state enforced it's state run. If you can't see this, imagine the universities were (eg) hardcore islamic. The islamic state enforces the rule of the islamic university, it's accrediting, etc. The state enforces groups that support it's desires. The state enforces the university itself, etc. you can have at least a half hour discussion Doesn't matter. If someone learned via live conversation or from a book of the same stuff it's the same. Even if I didn't know anyone…
/r/PussyPassDenied01/07/16 03:39 PM
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validation of their knowledge We could easily have an "open to all" exam system but the people in power don't want something that could weaken their power over society. eg their power to overcharge people with shocking college costs and to essentially bully people into regurgitating their views. Generally speaking, most people will be well off with getting an education. Maybe this is a bad habit, but you're wrongly implying that people who educate themselves have no education. Really (eg) if two…
/r/PussyPassDenied01/07/16 03:12 PM
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an established accredited curriculum Doesn't matter. State violence to control who counts as "accredited" does not make any assertion more valid. Assertions are valid based on evidence/reasoning, not who has the guns. without all of those More irrational assumptions. You assume people don't know more experienced people, and don't have projects, etc etc. Searching online for actual relevant resources Is faster. Period. Like you'd have to be in denial to not see it. But you often don't have to, eg…
/r/PussyPassDenied01/07/16 03:07 PM
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, you still are stating the exact same method that students everywhere use to study. Obviously self-educated people read, watch videos, etc also. This doesn't explain how they can do it MORE efficiently than anyone else. It doesn't have to be more efficiently to be valid, but it tends to be. No bureaucracy, no travel just to see the live classroom (watch the video instead) etc. . I mean pay as far as time, hours in the day they can afford to put towards studying. It's (again) the same. Whether s…
/r/PussyPassDenied01/07/16 02:40 PM
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How do you propose someone study science and mathematics faster o Again, it's the same whether it's reading an expensive textbook or a free pdf. Watching a live classroom or a video of such. " all the knowledge transferred via language is the same whether from a free source or expensive source" -- me How much do you believe the average self-educator can afford to study a day? People who are motivated to learn will practically always find time.
/r/PussyPassDenied01/07/16 02:35 PM
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Yes, economics is 100% subjective opinion and often having an "economics degree" only means someone has the views of the ruling class pumped into their head.
/r/PussyPassDenied01/07/16 02:14 PM
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[personal attacks] That's not a logical argument that I'm wrong.
/r/PussyPassDenied01/07/16 02:12 PM
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I never said self education d It's implied by referring to the self-educated as having no education. I am stating that the majority of people don't have the dedication or the time More assumptions & name-calling. I debunked this. Reread: "This is irrelevant. If another person can study the same information far more quickly/efficiently you can not rule out their learning." -- me "You're again assuming that people who educate themselves don't study seriously." -- me
/r/PussyPassDenied01/07/16 02:09 PM
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as someone who received an education in a subject You're assuming the debate/point, a logical fallacy. The person above is explaining people can educate themselves (which is true- all the knowledge transferred via language is the same whether from a free source or expensive source.) While you're assuming that self-education doesn't count as education and that bureaucratic schooling does. The truth is either form of learning can be a great form of education for various types of people. typically …
/r/PussyPassDenied01/07/16 01:57 PM
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You didn't actually quote any scientific evidence specifically for the "80 10 10" theory. You just linked to things that may or may not have such evidence. (To people reading your comment.)
/r/MensRights23/06/16 06:04 PM
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Reminds me of that south park episode.
/r/MensRights22/06/16 04:35 AM
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This title is just not explaining this. Crooked pseudo-education monopolies are the primary problem. If there was an open to all exam where you could take a few exams and get the relevant degree millions of men (out of obvious financial interest but not enough time for the obedient classroom sitting) would take such. ie, it's not that men know less. Men who are denied fair treatment at university will just educate themselves. Men are not being allowed to prove their knowledge. While women are be…
/r/MensRights21/06/16 05:18 PM
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But normal mental function does exist It doesn't matter. This isn't an argument that not being normal (eg being gay) is an illness. able to document the same abnormality again and again and again in individuals, then they can name the abnormality. eg, being gay or hundreds of other sexual types of people. Or personality types. None of that is a bad thing or an illness. "Abnormal" is not a bad thing. Being a normal apathetic person in this cruel world is the bad thing. To be frank your wall of te…
/r/MensRights30/05/16 11:19 PM
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Everyone with BPD should be rounded up and shot in the head. This is part of why "mental illness" myths are so incredibly dangerous. No, mental illness is very real. Actually a "mental illness" is only a label for alleged behaviors/feelings, not a real/physical illness: Allen Frances: (The chairman in charge of creating the DSM-IV.) "Mental disorders don't really live ‘out there’ waiting to be explained. They are constructs we have made up - and often not very compelling ones." -- Allen Frances …
/r/MensRights30/05/16 12:25 PM
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First, mentally ill means crazy. Yes, and there is no physical measurement for "crazy." People can have weird interpretations of life and it doesn't mean it's fair to portray them like a subhuman. Arguably all of society is irrational, emotional, etc. People can be irrational, emotional, or just totally different than the norm. And that's just part of the human mind. Even if brain scans were performed on all the extreme weirdos (and people society viewed as irrational) to show they were differen…
/r/MensRights30/05/16 09:28 AM
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The title should be: "Woman without evidence does what any woman would do if she wants to hurt her ex."
/r/MensRights28/05/16 02:53 AM
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Thank you. That's a good idea. How does this look? I'd love if you shared it. It's almost identical to the post above except I added a single short quote by Winston Churchill. I hope it helps.
/r/MensRights14/05/16 10:33 AM
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It led to the death of millions I'll debunk this in two parts. First I'll mention the many millions killed by capitalist nations. (Not the full list, but just some.) Then I'll just debunk everything you've heard about the USSR/etc. eg: "the United States most likely has been responsible since WWII for the deaths of between 20 and 30 million people in wars and conflicts scattered over the world." -- http://www.countercurrents.org/lucas240407.htm "The United States Has Killed At Least 8 Million Pe…
/r/MensRights07/05/16 03:02 PM
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Actually I don't endorse Bernie either. Unless he becomes more pro-self-defense rights I considered him more of a "lesser evil." ZERO experience trying to pay rent. The irony. Because if exploitative violence/property was abolished there'd be no rent to pay. In an egalitarian society there'd be an egalitarian distribution of land, not a landless class violently forced to serve the land owning class. (The absentee land ownership class.)
/r/MensRights07/05/16 06:35 AM
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Wrong. It's because he's seen as a clown. I oppose both hillary and trump. You have no idea what my beliefs are and if you think there's only one "narrative" against trump I'm guessing you watch a lot of Fox News.
/r/MensRights07/05/16 06:34 AM
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Clinton is also scum. That isn't very relevant to my comment.
/r/MensRights07/05/16 04:41 AM
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I didn't say that. I'm saying Trump specifically will likely do more harm than good if he's seen as the most famous person speaking about men's issues.
/r/MensRights07/05/16 02:46 AM
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This is dangerous. It's very bad for the MRM if Trump is seen as part of it. World wide he's viewed as a buffoon who inherited tons of money and is too much of a prick to admit it. And it's probably factually true that if he did nothing (with his inheritance and let it sit in some safe investment) that he'd be richer than he is now.
/r/MensRights07/05/16 02:12 AM
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No idea who this is & I don't want her youtube channel deleted even if she's a standard man-hating lying bigot.
/r/MensRights24/04/16 05:48 PM
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es with people who were bat shit fucking crazy. Name calling is not evidence of any illness. What counts (or not) as "delusional" is a subjective opinion. To us atheists all religious people seem "delusional." To leftists right-wingers are "delusional" (and vice versa.) Just about everyone on earth thinks just about everyone else on earth is delusional. That is not evidence of any illness. , and certainly couldn't maintain a "normal" life. Your name-calling here, which I will not assume correct,…
/r/PussyPassDenied19/04/16 08:33 PM
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All you're doing is asserting "mental illness" exists, not arguing that it's true. There's nothing logical about that. Here's reality: Thomas Insel: Former director of the NIMH “Diagnoses are based on a consensus about clusters of clinical symptoms, not any objective laboratory measure.” -- Thomas Insel @ psychologytoday.com Allen Frances: "psychiatric diagnosis still relies exclusively on fallible subjective judgments rather than objective biological tests" -- Allen Frances, 2013 "There is no d…
/r/PussyPassDenied19/04/16 08:21 PM
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[personal attacks] That's not a logical argument that I'm wrong. Thank you for surrendering the debate.
/r/PussyPassDenied19/04/16 07:55 PM
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and mental health. Again, "mental health" is physically unmeasurable vague-speak. And again, even if everyone was Einstein as long as there's more people than jobs there's going to be people out of work and in extreme suffering. They might use drugs having nothing else, but that does not prove "mental health" (there is no such thing) causes homelessness or drug use. a huge mental hospital and kicked the patients There were no patients, and that is not a hospital. That is a prison for people accu…
/r/PussyPassDenied19/04/16 07:08 PM
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Actually homelessness is tied directly to 1) the fact that there's more people than jobs and 2) the land is violently controlled to exploit the public so the many often have no land at all. (Even where it's excess.) You're just told some vague speak about "mental health" to blind you to this obvious reality. "Mental health" is not physically measurable. It's just a subjective opinion & often is simple name-calling. And accusing people who are hurting of poor "mental health" vague speak isn't say…
/r/PussyPassDenied19/04/16 04:29 PM
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I consider it implied by combining statements like "to say nothing of male-heavy psychological problems" with the fact that she went right into the topic of homelessness with no other explanation. Such is a very common belief, unfortunately. Although it's at least plausible that she did not mean this interpretation I consider it very likely.
/r/PussyPassDenied19/04/16 02:11 PM
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that males more commonly have mental disorders It's not true. Males are just accused of "mental illness" more often. It's often the same lie I mentioned above. (Covering up extreme poverty & homelessness by pretending it's "schizophrenia.") By the way a "mental illness" is only a label for alleged behaviors/feelings, not a real/physical illness: Allen Frances: (The chairman in charge of creating the DSM-IV.) "Mental disorders don't really live ‘out there’ waiting to be explained. They are constr…
/r/PussyPassDenied19/04/16 09:26 AM
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Don't be fooled by the nice title. This is a bad article. It's blaming men/boys with language like "academic underachievement" (for what's really a system built to reward females and not males.) Then the writer continues "male-heavy psychological problems" eg blaming homelessness on "schizophrenia." In reality a huge percentage of workers have essentially no savings and are one paycheck away from being homeless. I've seen endless homeless people and people trying desperately to find jobs & affor…
/r/PussyPassDenied19/04/16 04:52 AM
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You might want to flood your parents with every false rape accusation story you can find. eg the whole Duke lacrosse thing, the football player who caught a fake rape lie on camera, and so on. Maybe that will open their minds. Don't assume a "public defender" will help you. They will likely be like everyone else and just assume you guilty and not care. They might even bully you into pleading guilty (if you're charged.) You likely need a real lawyer. Of course you might get lucky and find a publi…
/r/MensRights12/04/16 09:27 AM
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to transition into a world where all jobs would be occupied by robots, Please learn basic reading comprehension- I never said that. I said dangerous jobs could be 1) done by machines or 2) simply not done (society under a different economic system could find safer alternatives to many dangerous jobs.) I do not want to have to start lecturing you on literacy so please carefully read what people are saying. Next, you're actually asserting (not arguing) that machines can't do jobs. How desperate.
/r/MensRights29/03/16 08:17 PM
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I see you failed again to comprehend what I said. Maybe numbers will help you. Robots taking over jobs is happening quickly around the world, despite how you're completely ignorant of that fact. And it could be done in a non-exploitative (socialist) way. Again, the primary point is economic systems violently control the human rights of the men who end up forced into the most dangerous jobs. What is your solution right now while we're waiting to get to that type of society? "1. Robots taking over…
/r/MensRights29/03/16 08:07 PM
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Robots taking over jobs is happening quickly around the world, despite how you're completely ignorant of that fact. And it could be done in a non-exploitative (socialist) way. Again, the primary point is economic systems violently control the human rights of the men who end up forced into the most dangerous jobs.
/r/MensRights29/03/16 07:47 PM
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Again, the primary point is economic systems violently control the human rights of the men who end up forced into the most dangerous jobs. Such could be a form of socialism, but going into the details of that is not the primary point. So for whatever irrational reply your thinking of, again: "The primary point is economic systems violently control the human rights of the men who end up forced into the most dangerous jobs."
/r/MensRights29/03/16 07:33 PM
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That's not an argument either. You don't even know what an argument is. You're just asserting & pretending a forum is a "house" which must stand.
/r/MensRights29/03/16 08:04 AM
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[no rational argument for anything]
/r/MensRights29/03/16 07:46 AM
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I just don't get the connection to socialism Again, economic systems directly control the human rights of men since men end up forced to do the more dangerous jobs. And in a different economic system such jobs could be eliminated.
/r/MensRights29/03/16 07:45 AM
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Censorship (the rejection of reasoning itself) is never the solution. You can ask people to try to minimize discussions but actual censorship is an evil.
/r/MensRights29/03/16 07:42 AM
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that under both systems, men struggle equally. That's an absurd assumption. eg in a different economic system all sorts of the dangerous jobs of today might not exist. Many of such jobs could be done by machine & the public could be freed to live without serving a ruling class.
/r/MensRights29/03/16 05:19 AM
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Censoring people is not a solution to the divide between the left & the right.
/r/MensRights29/03/16 04:51 AM
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Again, the gender issues (eg men doing more dangerous jobs) are created by the economic system enforced on workers.
/r/MensRights29/03/16 04:50 AM
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As a man, I've never been forced to do dangerous work. You're just confused and your claim of "enjoying" dangerous work is common denial. I debunked you here, and you made no logical argument that I'm wrong. ie you lost the debate.
/r/MensRights28/03/16 08:00 PM
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That is a worker's issue, You're still confused. The gender issue is that men are doing more dangerous jobs (and worse jobs often in other ways) and they're forced into it. I explained this previously.
/r/MensRights28/03/16 07:41 PM
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you never made any mention of a specific gender i You're confused. I was obviously explaining that workers generally (and that includes men) are violently forced to submit to exploitation.
/r/MensRights28/03/16 07:09 PM
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If it costs $5M to design a robot that is going to replace $10k/yr of labor A silly straw man. Even if that was true the cost of machines gets cheaper over time. ie, once the machines are made they're practically always cheaper. I'm just repeating myself. Why is that? Because I already debunked everything you said multiple posts ago. And frankly it's obvious. Your position is silly and you should stop trying to save face. " The fact that this process isn't completed overnight does not mean the m…
/r/MensRights28/03/16 06:49 PM
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I'm not forced into any dangerous job. I just debunked that in my previous reply. I could cut and paste it, but instead I suggest you reread my previous reply until you understand it.
/r/MensRights28/03/16 06:46 PM
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But they cost money to be built Duh, they're still cheaper. Machines are already quickly replacing human jobs- it's only a matter of time, not a question of whether they're cheaper. unless the labor they are replacing is expensive. Again, practically always. The fact that this process isn't completed overnight does not mean the machines are more expensive than human workers. Deal with the fact that you misinterpreted my intention I didn't. Don't try to save face.
/r/MensRights28/03/16 06:45 PM
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If that were the case, machines would be doing those jobs now. You're confused. The machines have not all been built/invented/etc yet. But they are still practically always cheaper than human labor once they're made. And the parasite/ruling class is slowly replacing workers with machines every year. Those jobs will always exist. Don't try to spin and save face. You obviously meant done by humans but you are realizing how irrational your position is and thus trying to pretend that was not your po…
/r/MensRights28/03/16 06:36 PM
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Only if the machines are cheaper than the humans. That's a pretty weak argument since machines are practically always cheaper than humans, and if employers must pay for injuries/etc (and lawsuits) then this is even more true. They will always exist. That's just an assertion without argument. And I already debunked it. Again: dangerous jobs could be eliminated because robotics can take over practically all dangerous jobs. (arguably all of them.) And if there was an exception then people, in a mor…
/r/MensRights28/03/16 06:24 PM
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As a man, I'm not forced into any job Incorrect. This is the whole "everything is voluntary" myth, when the truth is property opinions are enforced violently (eg trespassing laws) by the capitalist's state. Basically, the main form of capitalist property (absentee land ownership) is violent exploitation because it violently deprives workers of natural & pre-existing things of value (eg land & it's resources) unless they surrender part of their production. (To their attacker.) ie, the gunman/capi…
/r/MensRights28/03/16 06:19 PM
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I disagree completely. eg in a different economic system all sorts of the dangerous jobs of today might not exist. Many of such jobs could be done by machine & the public could be freed to live without serving a ruling class.
/r/MensRights28/03/16 02:58 PM
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if the subject isn't directly involving mensright Again, economic systems directly involve men's human rights. eg it's men who are far more likely to be forced into dangerous jobs & so on.
/r/MensRights28/03/16 06:54 AM
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aquatic wildlife That has nothing to do with men's human rights. Economic systems oppress & exploit men more than women since it's men doing most of the more difficult & dangerous work.
/r/MensRights28/03/16 06:10 AM
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While that could be considered dishonest it's still not the NTS fallacy. The NTS is about redefining things when new evidence is presented that debunks your position.
/r/MensRights28/03/16 06:09 AM
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This censorship is not needed- we aren't SJWs and /r/mensrights should not be "safe space." If you're getting flooded with reports then make a post telling people you support free speech and to stop reporting so much.
/r/MensRights28/03/16 04:26 AM
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Sounds like a "no true Scotsman" fallacy. It isn't. Imagine someone said: "no true vegetarian eats meat." This isn't a fallacy. The "NTS fallacy" is redefining what a thing is in order to keep your original position. If I assert something isn't a "true" form of something, but am not redefining something to make it fit new evidence, there's no NTS fallacy.
/r/MensRights28/03/16 04:22 AM
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Upvoted. But IMO your post is longer than it needs to be.
/r/MensRights23/03/16 12:57 PM
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it's easier to convince society to accept something that can't be controlled. Lying and claiming something can't be controlled is not the answer. People are not born wanting to dress up like a woman, "feel feminine" (or feel like any gender stereotype), etc. That's their philosophy/choice/etc. If they want to dress up & live as women that's 100% fine, but don't try to force everyone to pretend you're not biologically male. There's just two genders- we're biologically male or biologically female.
/r/MensRights21/03/16 09:48 PM
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there's cause and effect. If you do find group-A looks similar in a brain scan it could be caused by their choices- you can't assume they were born that way. [no argument that I'm wrong.] Thank you for surrendering the debate.
/r/MensRights21/03/16 05:15 PM
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. ITS NOT ABOUT BEING OR FEELING FEMININE I've heard differently a bazillion times from transwomen.
/r/MensRights21/03/16 04:57 PM
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You're making up various "sides" and pretending those are the only options. The reality is there's a bunch of men who claim they "feel feminine" (eg gender stereotypes) and they thus justify becoming transwomen. And the rest of us know they are biologically men and we just pretend, out of politeness, that they're women. It's not a disease. And it's not that they are born believing in gender stereotypes. And there's nothing wrong with them claiming to be women, or acting/dressing that way. But th…
/r/MensRights21/03/16 04:14 PM
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We disagree.
/r/MensRights21/03/16 04:11 PM
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That's spin. "Imaging" on people's brains shows everyone is different. That's individuality. And there's cause and effect. If you do find group-A looks similar in a brain scan it could be caused by their choices- you can't assume they were born that way.
/r/MensRights21/03/16 04:10 PM
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None of that ranting is an argument that I'm wrong.
/r/MensRights21/03/16 04:09 PM
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What you're describing is a transgender woman. Her biological sex is still male, but she is a woman. A transgender woman is (in truth) biologically a man. Despite this the rest of us, out of politeness alone, will call her a "woman" even though scientifically she is not female and we all know it.
/r/MensRights21/03/16 09:14 AM
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They're not the same. I disagree.
/r/MensRights21/03/16 09:13 AM
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and wish to be treated as [females] That's fine. But when they go to the doctor they're still male. . They're saying they're psychologically female And that's nonsense. There's no "psychologically female". Again: "If you're born male but 'feel feminine' (whatever that means) that does not make you female." -- me
/r/MensRights21/03/16 09:05 AM
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I'm explaining that if you're born male but "feel feminine" (whatever that means) that does not make you female. I'm explaining the only gender is your biological gender. Imagine if you were born male. If you want to dress up & live as a female that's fine, but when you go to the doctor your gender is still male.
/r/MensRights21/03/16 08:32 AM
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where it's necessary to distinguish them as distinct concepts. It isn't.
/r/MensRights21/03/16 08:16 AM
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You can try to define gender as different than your biological sex all day long. That's not your scientific gender. If you're born male but "feel feminine" (whatever that means) that does not make you female.
/r/MensRights21/03/16 08:16 AM
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Your gender philosophy fails to mention gender. Wrong. Saying "You're born male or female" is about genders such as the male or female gender. It's like that, only with cis people You still haven't defined it. I think you can't. Please stop spamming me.
/r/MensRights21/03/16 07:52 AM
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to living as a different gender Again: I'm using "gender" to refer to your biological sex. You scientifically are born either in the male or female gender. You're using "gender" to mean behavior stereotypes. That's silly. If you are born male but your behavior is called "feminine" your gender is still male.
/r/MensRights21/03/16 07:35 AM
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"You're born male or female." is a statement about biological sex, not a "gender philosophy ". That's my gender philosophy. you don't object to children being indoctrinated I didn't say that. You still haven't defined whatever "cis gender philosophy" is.
/r/MensRights21/03/16 07:23 AM
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Sexual orientation is more than who you sleep with, it's who you're attracted to. I don't care how you define being gay/bi/etc. Telling a big brutish boy he can be a small pretty woman is something that won't happen. Period. And nobody doing that except in your fantasy world. Again, I disagree. The people telling young boys it's fine to just "change to female" are saying that, and when the boys grow up they might grow into giant muscular men. And all the people saying "gender is just a construct…
/r/MensRights21/03/16 06:01 AM
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I'm not sure what you think "cis gender philosophy" is. If it's the idea that scientifically you're born a male or a female that's scientifically true.
/r/MensRights21/03/16 05:58 AM
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You're probably right that the website is a bunch of gay-hating bigots. But I was talking about "The American College of Pediatricians" (where the statement is from.) No one posted any evidence that they're anti-gay.
/r/MensRights21/03/16 05:27 AM
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Why do you believe that?
/r/MensRights21/03/16 05:20 AM
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It's like a gay couple holding hands or kissing is "shoving it down their throats" It isn't the same. eg if someone wants to change which gender they sleep with they always can. Telling a big brutish boy he can be a small pretty woman is something that won't happen. Period. And people's sex lives tend to be very private, so if some kid felt they wanted to change their sex life that's generally easy to do so. It's less easy (publicly) to change your entire apparent gender. Trans people are doing …
/r/MensRights21/03/16 05:16 AM
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Your comment is not relevant to mine. I said: "If adults want to live as the other gender that's fine. But trans people should not indoctrinate kids with their 'choose your gender' philosophy."
/r/MensRights21/03/16 05:03 AM
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the move to indoctrinate children with the idea that they can pick their gender amounts to child abuse I agree with these words. To tell small children to "choose your gender" is going to have all sorts of bad results. If adults want to live as the other gender that's fine. But trans people should not indoctrinate kids with their "choose your gender" philosophy. And it's not bigotry to say that, or to say there's scientifically two genders and we're all born one or the other.
/r/MensRights21/03/16 04:54 AM
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this type of censorship is entirely legal Irrelevant. Don't try to define censorship so that only the state counts as censorship.
/r/MensRights15/03/16 06:17 AM
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That's dishonest. Not every debate about free speech refers to government's reducing free speech. And especially not the American government. Don't assume everyone is in the USA.
/r/MensRights15/03/16 05:21 AM
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If he couldn't own the land Someone else would own the land. , there wouldn't be a trump tower. Someone else would build towers- there'd be other towers owned in non-parasitic ways. This means millions of people would be out of a job, Wrong again. if the relationship is mutually beneficial. It isn't. I explained how that form of property is violent parasitism and you failed to comprehend what I said or make a logical argument that I'm wrong.
/r/MensRights13/03/16 04:42 PM
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Violent control of the land/earth to exploit people is not "giving people what they want." It's depriving them of natural/pre-existing things of value unless they surrender their production. The main form of capitalist property (absentee land ownership) is violent exploitation because it violently deprives workers of natural & pre-existing things of value (eg land & it's resources) unless they surrender part of their production. (To their attacker.) ie, the gunman/capitalist who claimed such did…
/r/MensRights13/03/16 01:49 PM
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You're confused. The truth is Trump is a violent parasite. A "successful" mugger is too, and I am against violent parasites.
/r/MensRights13/03/16 12:25 PM
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This sounds like someone who might falsely accuse you of something. IMO protect yourself with a body camera, glasses camera, etc. Btw obviously Trump is terrible.
/r/MensRights12/03/16 01:29 PM
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Lately it seems the term MRM is becoming synonymous with misogyny No it isn't. Only man-hating bigots believe that men's human rights are somehow misogyny. They can shout that 24/7 (and will) just like racists will say terrible things about blacks. It doesn't matter.
/r/MensRights19/02/16 05:05 PM
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This is the best debunk to this myth I've ever seen. Thank you (whoever made it.)
/r/MensRights16/02/16 04:21 PM
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That's the submitter's comment.
/r/MensRights28/01/16 09:03 PM
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Please check out https://www.reddit.com/r/intactivists & maybe use their search. I found: "New Study Reveals Circumcision Increases the Likelihood of STIs" -- https://www.reddit.com/r/Intactivists/comments/ys0pk/new_study_reveals_circumcision_increases_the/?ref=search_posts "Sources?" -- https://www.reddit.com/r/Intactivists/comments/15d5rr/sources/ etc
/r/MensRights14/01/16 08:03 AM
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Those two are explaining the position of the British Psychological Association. There could be millions of "psychiatric journals", or billions of "shamanistic journals." That's not evidence that any behavior, "misbehavior", or feeling is an illness. Being sad (or shy, etc) is not an illness. Cancer is an illness. There is not any scientific evidence in all the "psychiatric journals" in the world that a behavior, "misbehavior", or feeling is an illness. The state simply defines behaviors/feelings…
/r/MensRights10/01/16 07:31 PM
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and later going back to normal thanks to the medication. "Being different" is not a disease. Saying someone became "normal" is not evidence of any disease. Drugs may have helped a person, but that is not evidence of any disease. And not evidence that the drugs are "medicine." Hallucinations There is no such thing as "schizophrenia." The Guardian: "The B.P.S. released a statement claiming that there is no scientific validity to diagnostic labels such as schizophrenia" http://guardian.co.uk/scienc…
/r/MensRights10/01/16 05:49 PM
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I saw one guy trying to keep ghost out of the room, flailing his arms and carrying invisible objects. That sounds like religion to me. Devils that aren't there, terrorizing child with stories of demons, abusing kids to enforce religion, & so on. Let's take what you describe (which I totally reject- it's just an accusation) and just assume that was true. That's at the least a person fucking with you, acting silly/stupid (etc) which is very common. At the most, it could be called a "mental conditi…
/r/MensRights10/01/16 02:45 PM
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seen unmedicated schizophrenics, did you? There is no such thing.
/r/MensRights10/01/16 12:46 PM
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have multiple personalities? That allegation could be made about almost anyone. There is no verification of it. You have to remember psychiatrists must use the most extreme language possible (to make people sound like raving lunatics) or else people would question why they even exist, & their violent power over society, & keeping slaves (ie "mental patients") with no evidence/conviction, etc. Even if someone seems like they have "different personalities" that is not an illness. Even those who he…
/r/MensRights10/01/16 10:44 AM
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she was supposed to be mentally ill. There is no such thing as "mental illness." Cancer is an illness. And no behavior, feeling, "misbehavior" is. (Or can be- there is nothing to physically examine.) People can have all sorts of weird behaviors, feelings, etc (eg religion) and that's not an illness.
/r/MensRights10/01/16 08:33 AM
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I'd suggest buying some type of body camera, eg pen camera & so on, and thus being able to record anything. If this woman shows up suddenly & you can catch her in a lie that could help a lot.
/r/MensRights13/12/15 05:43 AM
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He very likely wasn't looking for "psychiatric treatment." People don't know what that is. They go to some place falsely advertised as "help" and they may want therapy, real life help (eg finding a job or cheap housing), or all sorts of things. And instead they get dehumanizing psychiatric labels, cruel assumptions, violence (treating people like animals) etc.
/r/MensRights21/11/15 09:20 AM
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So if you don't consider the DSM a valid source of information, then why are you using a quote from the chairman in charge of creating the DSM-IV? A guy who used to work on the DSM != the DSM. Btw, the burden of proof is on the person saying something exists. As the skeptic I don't have to quote anyone- I just have to point out there is no evidence for a physical illness called "ADHD." So if ADHD results in a disturbance in [the mind] That's a subjective opinion, not physical evidence of any rea…
/r/MensRights12/11/15 12:01 AM
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I only said ADHD and Dyslexia have a high rate of co-morbidity. Morbidity refers to illness. ie, people who assert that claim are pretending ADHD is a real/physical illness. (And not just a label for alleged behaviors/feelings.) People asserting that claim are pretending those accused of "ADHD" have some permanent brain illness/damage when in reality "ADHD" is just liberally alleged at almost anyone teachers, parents, etc want drugged. I posted links that said ADHD is a disorder Again, it's circ…
/r/MensRights11/11/15 11:42 PM
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The DSM-5 calls ADHD a disorder. You're using circular reasoning. You're asserting the DSM's claim (that "ADHD" is a mental illness) is true because the DSM asserts it. That's like "the bible is true because it says it's true." The DSM said gays were "mentally ill" & all sorts of pseudo science. That's irrelevant: assertions are valid based on evidence/reasoning, not who said them. You haven't made any argument that there's a real/physical illness called "ADHD." You haven't made any argument tha…
/r/MensRights11/11/15 11:08 PM
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ADHD and Dyslexia have a high rate of co-morbidity That's not true. "Co-morbidity" refers to illnesses, & "ADHD" is only a label for alleged behaviors & feelings. It's not a real/physical illness: Allen Frances: The chairman in charge of creating the DSM-IV "Mental disorders don't really live ‘out there’ waiting to be explained. They are constructs we have made up - and often not very compelling ones." -- Allen Frances PsychologyToday.com: "Why French Kids Don't Have ADHD Is ADHD a biological-ne…
/r/MensRights11/11/15 10:55 PM
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I disagree. All sorts of so-called "psychologists" will consistently assume males guilty of absolutely anything bad.
/r/MensRights11/11/15 07:06 PM
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for your daughter to visit a psychologist. That's just a variant of what caused the trouble. Dear OP, the vast majority of kids labelled "ADHD" are just normal kids. Psychiatrists get paid more when they "diagnose" people with these labels & use them liberally. (Plus school teachers love to have drugged obedient students.) Please focus on helping your daughter deal with the dyslexia, not the so-called "ADHD."
/r/MensRights11/11/15 07:02 PM
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change https to http http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2015/nov/5/aaron-allmon-case-makes-minot-air-force-base-groun/
/r/MensRights06/11/15 02:34 PM
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Even then, 60% of the men who commit suicide have already seeked help. Because it's not help to most men. Just talking to someone makes therapists money but it doesn't solve men's real life problems. eg wages, jobs becoming worse & worse, shocking rents increasing, ex-wives who steal everything, & being assumed to be the bad guy gender.
/r/MensRights06/11/15 01:30 PM
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I... have made plenty of [logical fallacies] Ftfy. I have debunked 100% of your posts & you reply with personal attacks. Thank you for surrendering the debate.
/r/MensRights05/11/15 01:13 AM
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[personal attacks] That isn't an argument that I'm wrong. If you can't argue why your beliefs are true they probably aren't.
/r/MensRights05/11/15 01:10 AM
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. By this logic a psychiatrist could film the behavior of a person to make an accurate diagnosis. Wrong. You could film an alleged crime and convict someone in court. eg, it could be smoking weed. That isn't evidence of "smoking weed disorder". If some people got in a fight that isn't "fighting disorder." he won't lie. Doctors can lie too. Although I obviously wasn't talking about a doctor, but the "100 people."
/r/MensRights05/11/15 01:07 AM
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What if 100 people [alleged something] They could lie. eg when protestors are attacked by crowds of people who hate them. Ask the crowd to describe the situation & you'd get a different answer/perspective about what happened. That's not a measurement. a person punching you in the face That's a criminal accusation, not a scientific measurement with a physical tool/measurement. If there's any actual evidence for that, eg it was caught in video tape, convict them. No "psychiatry" is needed.
/r/MensRights05/11/15 12:34 AM
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Visual observation of consistent behavior You're failing to understand accuracy. You don't have any measuring tool to get something accurate like "3.6 units of good behavior" or "4.4 units of bad behavior." Without physical tools & physical units of measurement all you're doing is making up subjective opinions & pretending they're "measurements."
/r/MensRights05/11/15 12:12 AM
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Observation is in fact a part of the scientific method. I obviously agree. I'm saying that pseudo-scientists misuse the word "observation" to mean their subjective opinions about other people. [something] without physical units is still a science. I Incorrect. With no physical units of measurement there's no accuracy/repeatability.
/r/MensRights04/11/15 11:52 PM
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and behavior are the measurements used in the context of psychiatry That's not rational. Your subjective opinions about other people's behaviors are not "measurements." There's no physical units of measurement & thus no accuracy/repeatability. What you're doing is just assuming (pretending) that behaviors which are morally disliked are "illnesses." Really no behavior, or "misbehavior", is an illness: there's nothing to physically examine.
/r/MensRights04/11/15 11:10 PM
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different is not a disease. According to your definition. However your definition is wrong because you are a nutcase. If "different was a disease" then gays would count. And all sorts of minority groups. But that's irrational bigotry, not science. And your personal attacks are not arguments that I'm wrong. [no arguments for anything] I explained things (eg that actual science has physical units of measurement & thus accuracy/repeatability) and you didn't make any argument that I'm wrong. If you …
/r/MensRights04/11/15 10:55 PM
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[personal attacks] That's not an argument that I'm wrong. Thank you for surrendering the debate.
/r/MensRights04/11/15 10:29 PM
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or one that makes people uncomfortable because he is completely unaware of personal space That's a subjective opinion, not evidence of any illness. And there's nothing objective about it. In actual sciences what's objective has physical units of measurement & thus accuracy/repeatability. because he is paranoid Who's "paranoid" is a subjective opinion. about his behavior in the context of society. This sounds like an Orwellian way to say someone is different than the norm. And again that's irrele…
/r/MensRights04/11/15 10:19 PM
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They identify mental/behavioral phenomenons that are either extremely atypical That's irrational, & the same "reasoning" used to claim gays were mentally ill. Really being different, even extremely different, is not an illness. Being different alone is not physical damage to the body or physical loss of function. , and/or hurtful to the person / surrounding people. That's 1) a subjective opinion 2) a moral judgement that it's bad and 3) an assumption of guilt. Notice #2, especially. [semantics a…
/r/MensRights04/11/15 09:53 PM
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You can't measure a symptom, You can if it's physical, eg damage to bones, organs, white blood cells, etc. Swelling of joints, rashes caused by bacteria, etc. the APA doesn't like or dislike anything. They come up with exact definitions of certain mental phenomenons. Again, it's not all mental "phenomenons" but the ones they dislike which are called "mental illness."
/r/MensRights04/11/15 09:29 PM
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Psychiatry has [physical diagnosis with physical units of measurement.] It's called symptoms. Incorrect. You must have missed these quotes from earlier: Allen Frances: The chairman in charge of creating the DSM-IV "psychiatric diagnosis still relies exclusively on fallible subjective judgments rather than objective biological tests" -- Allen Frances, 2013 Thomas Insel: Former director of the NIMH “Diagnoses are based on a consensus about clusters of clinical symptoms, not any objective laborator…
/r/MensRights04/11/15 09:07 PM
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Just because we can't measure it yet doesn't mean in can't be measured. Even if we could (someday) measure the mind itself that'd only show one person was different than another. (Not physical damage or physical loss of function.) ie, that's not evidence of any "mental illness" because: Different != disease. Cause & effect. Measuring that someone is different somehow doesn't prove (eg) they were born that way instead of chose it or because that way do to real life. Next, actual science has physi…
/r/MensRights04/11/15 08:43 PM
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I didn't say it's bad to make moral judgements, I'm explaining the psychiatric industry is pretending their moral judgements about other people are scientific physical illnesses.
/r/MensRights04/11/15 08:14 PM
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without knowing their actual cause That isn't the issue. The issue is whether something is a real/physical illness or purely a made up construct. If something has physically measurable damage or physical loss of function, that's a real illness. In contrast "mental illness" is purely a construct of the mind. "psychiatric diagnosis still relies exclusively on fallible subjective judgments rather than objective biological tests" -- Allen Frances, 2013 And psychiatry's claim that behaviors/feelings …
/r/MensRights04/11/15 07:16 PM
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I don't dispute that Autism exists or not It only exists as a label/construct for alleged behaviors & feelings. Allen Frances: The chairman in charge of creating the DSM-IV "Mental disorders don't really live ‘out there’ waiting to be explained. They are constructs we have made up - and often not very compelling ones." -- Allen Frances in “DSM in Philosophyland: Curiouser and Curiouser” in AAP&P Bulletin vol 17, No 2 of 2010 Thomas Insel: Former director of the NIMH “Diagnoses are based on a con…
/r/MensRights04/11/15 03:40 PM
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a 16-17 year old a "defenseless child"? I can't tell the age from the gif, but almost every school kid is defenseless against gunmen. And there is nothing "trolling" about opposing the violent exploitation of workers, the fake/controlled "democracy" where billionaires are in control, & so on.
/r/PussyPassDenied31/10/15 07:55 PM
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Indeed. This isn't "pussy pass denied." This is a tyrannical pig initiating violence on a defenseless child.
/r/PussyPassDenied31/10/15 06:54 PM
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he term was coined in the 1990's by Rush Limbaugh To be fair, no one can prove that. He could've just heard it & stole it.
/r/MensRights30/10/15 07:09 AM
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You have several years (7?) to file a lawsuit. It might be different in every state. You can always save up and sew them later.
/r/MensRights29/10/15 08:15 AM
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[fail] Hint: target the democratic party or the "pc crowd" specifically. Attacking all "liberals" & "progressives" is not the same. If you don't want someone else's church violently governing you, you agree with liberals/progressives. If you have basic worker rights (eg 40 hour work week, overtime, etc) that's from progressives. If you want to legalize weed, that's liberals too. And so on. Liberals/progressives are a wide variety of people, who have practically no control of the US government (b…
/r/MensRights26/10/15 04:07 AM
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You're making jokes. I'm explaining that readers of this submission don't know what you're complaining about.
/r/MensRights17/10/15 05:51 PM
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Take some screenshots & post them to imgur.
/r/MensRights17/10/15 04:28 PM
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Maybe post examples? Or link to it?
/r/MensRights17/10/15 03:51 PM
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[still trying to change the topic] I'm not a Marxist. And again, I did not mention Marx. Your post is just assumptions & personal attacks, not any argument that I'm wrong about anything.
/r/MensRights21/09/15 07:12 PM
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You really think work is all that matters to people? No, but I didn't want to give a full list of the real life reasons which cause people to suffer. For many people a bunch of positivity talk doesn't help- it does not solve their real life problems -and is just a waste of money. [changing the topic to Marx/etc.] I didn't mention Marx.
/r/MensRights21/09/15 06:01 PM
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"Mental health" isn't a real thing. It's an advertising slogan used to sell expensive talk therapy & similar "services" instead of real life solutions like more jobs & better jobs.
/r/MensRights21/09/15 03:14 PM
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I refused to talk to anybody, but because I felt nobody wanted to listen. For the tiny amount of men who want to talk, instead of want real life solutions (eg good jobs) that's fine. But "mental health" profiteers act like the solution to everyone's problems is them & more "therapy." homeless? There's more people than jobs, & thus joblessness. The land is violently controlled by the few, and thus homelessness.
/r/MensRights21/09/15 03:12 PM
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This isn't a solution for the vast majority of men. It's the idea that men's problems (eg suicide) are the result of men who just need to talk & refuse to. Really struggling men have real life problems: eg finding decent enough work, loneliness, & not being valued by society if they're not wealthy/married/etc. And if they do find work, it might be such long hours that it feels like all they do. "Mental health" nonsense doesn't fix any of people's real life problems. It doesn't help people find a…
/r/MensRights21/09/15 01:14 PM
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I don't consider these people to be "the left." They represent not the public, but the views of the upper class "left." It's like how the republicans have these "extreme conservatives" (the klan, etc) which they reject as part of the movement. Similarly we have these bureaucratic alleged "leftists" trying to brainwash youths via obedience training & mental submission to "authority figures."
/r/MensRights15/09/15 08:29 PM
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"Men's equality activists" might be a little better, but IMO the name isn't a huge problem. Since many people are indoctrinated to believe "all women are victims" (etc) any label is going to be demonized.
/r/MensRights15/09/15 11:14 AM
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and white flour. All high carb flour IMO. Many people only have success (losing weight) by minimizing carbs.
/r/MensRights13/09/15 01:23 PM
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Is there a video about this that's not from Alex Jones? I'd be far more interested.
/r/MensRights13/09/15 10:31 AM
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Yet again the title is bullshit, not that I'm blaming the submitter. "Outperforming" should be "benefiting from sexist bureaucracies & sexist policies."
/r/MensRights10/09/15 09:24 PM
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[no arguments that I'm wrong.] Thank you for surrendering the debate. But I'll give you a hint: I'm the skeptic. The burden of proof is on the person claiming something physically exists. When you claim something is physically real, eg the "link" between alleged "mind illness/infection" and something physical, you must prove it. I must only point out that there's no evidence. eg, how it's nothing but silly assumptions. "Psychiatrists" these days regularly claim they have "physically measured" th…
/r/MensRights10/09/15 08:17 PM
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All common myths. Using brain imaging... study genes Different != a disease. Even if you were right that brain scans showed these people were different (which isn't true) all such "brain imaging" shows is one person is different than another. eg Einstein & his larger than normal brain. If being different was "mental illness" then such would also be an illness. No where have you made any argument that any behavior or misbehavior is an "illness." You just assume it. Scientists have found many diff…
/r/MensRights10/09/15 08:04 PM
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Your post is a personal attack, & nothing more. I'm obviously against people assuming that expensive "therapy" is the solution to men's problems. It practically always isn't: most of men's problems are real life problems (eg a lack of good jobs/pay) which are not solved by expensive emotional support. "Mental health" profiteers are constantly trying to profit from the weak & suffering, but none of that is creating a good decent job for people who are suffering. (Or other real life solutions.)
/r/MensRights10/09/15 07:49 PM
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You never provided anything suggesting you were right. I disagree, but I'll be very clear. The truth is a "mental illness" is just a label for alleged behaviors/feelings, not a real/physical illness. Thomas Insel: “Diagnoses are based on a consensus about clusters of clinical symptoms, not any objective laboratory measure.” -- Thomas Insel (Director of the NIMH) @ psychologytoday.com Allen Frances: "Mental disorders don't really live ‘out there’ waiting to be explained. They are constructs we ha…
/r/MensRights10/09/15 07:47 PM
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[personal attacks] This is not an argument that I am wrong. psychology and psychiatry have accurate and repeatable, measurable results. Actually "psychological studies" tend to have about 50% repeatability according to a recent study. "Landmark Study Suggests Most Psychology Studies Dont Yield Reproducible Results" -- https://www.insidehighered.com/news/2015/08/28/landmark-study-suggests-most-psychology-studies-dont-yield-reproducible-results I consider it far less than the study says. As for "p…
/r/MensRights10/09/15 07:41 PM
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Like trying to find solutions. This is still talk, it's not (eg) a good paying job. find 'em a job You didn't say a good job. Finding a good job is the goal of just about everyone. You probably just mean attempting to find them one. If you mean workers are just turning down good jobs because of manliness, I don't believe it. To avoid going line by line, almost everything you're saying is just talk, not actual help.
/r/MensRights10/09/15 07:31 PM
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drugs can treat the symptoms of various degrees and types of mental illness. The fact that drugs effect a behavior/feeling does not prove the behavior/feeling is an illness. To be frank, you're using circular reasoning. You have asserted that behaviors/feelings are "mental illnesses" without argument. (You believe they're "mental illness" only because you assert such.) You mention drugs & changing behaviors/feelings. That does not prove any behavior (or feeling) is an illness. If it did, any beh…
/r/MensRights10/09/15 07:22 PM
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they deny all help, Like what? They might not consider such to be legitimate "help."
/r/MensRights10/09/15 03:34 PM
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through the same suffering even as they rebuff support You're assuming just talking (eg emotional support) will help others. If that helped you that's fine, but for many people it's just expensive blathering.
/r/MensRights10/09/15 01:41 PM
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It's all talk. What's called "prevention" is an industry. They're not actually helping create good jobs for these suffering men. They're not trying to change society's opinion of men who aren't wealthy. It's about making money for various therapists, prisons ("mental hospitals") (etc) which prey off allegedly suicidal men. The irony is these prisons actually make their victims more likely to commit suicide. The fact that some men feel a therapist can help them is irrelevant to most men.
/r/MensRights10/09/15 01:40 PM
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in mental health facilities, "Mental health" facilities do not reduce suicide, but increase suicide. When people are violently kidnapped in "mental hospital" prisons they become more likely to commit suicide. They treat people like animals, & it should be considered torture: victims are often forcefully drugged via beatings, suffocation, etc. "In psychiatric hospitals, the forced medication of patients involves physically restraining them (straight jackets, wrist straps, etc.) or, in some case, …
/r/MensRights10/09/15 06:42 AM
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"Falling behind" is not fair language. It implies the problem is the boys/men. Being discriminated against in systems that reward people for being female & for being obedient != "falling behind."
/r/MensRights08/09/15 04:30 AM
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Indeed. To go beyond that, the whole concept of "mental health" here (for suffering men) is blaming the man, as if he just needs some therapist to tell him he's valued. (Even if he isn't valued by society.) No amount of a therapist saying "you should value yourself" will change that society does not value poor/lonely men. Actual solutions are (eg) more jobs, better pay, & so on. Not "mental health" spending.
/r/MensRights07/09/15 03:01 PM
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[god damn hippies!] I did not base my belief on star trek. I'm thinking far more long term than you. There is no reason for you to continue to spam me like this. Past history is a predictor of future behavior, Sometimes, and very often (eg most invention & how it changes society) that is not true.
/r/MensRights05/09/15 09:26 AM
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in fact it's going to get worse [in the immediate future] You seem to be thinking about the next decades or arguably centuries. But humans will likely live on earth for many thousands of years from now, if not millions. We are only at the very beginning. What you mention is not the whole story of humanity. You're missing the part when humanity (if humanity survives long enough) becomes more & more intelligent until we become egalitarians, & generally volunteers. An entirely different society tha…
/r/MensRights05/09/15 08:53 AM
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Well they haven't in the whole of human history, Human culture has always been to value women. It's an unmeasurable unprovable assertion that it's genetics. And it won't change "annnyyy day now." Your ranty response is not an argument for anything. It will take a long time for change to occur.
/r/MensRights05/09/15 08:29 AM
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5/5 women will help the woman, and 4/5 men will help the woman. That relates to culture. You can not assume it's genetics, as you implied. A smarter society (a lot smarter) could learn to value male lives. Humans have evolved to have heightened empathy for the suffering of women, and a reduced capacity for the suffering of men. Just an assertion, not an argument. You can not measure that theory- it's just subjective opinion. Again, it could instead be culture. [endless off topic stuff] Please st…
/r/MensRights05/09/15 08:07 AM
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Humans are genetically unable to value male lives. You've made no argument for that, you've only asserted it. I believe the intellect required (to value male lives) is rare these days, but if culture continues to advance then empathy for men will become far more common.
/r/MensRights05/09/15 07:17 AM
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hire a lawyer and challenge it. The "judges"also have zero empathy for men. And any successes gained (eg using egalitarian laws) will likely be removed over time as laws are rewritten to only help women. In the long term, making a society value male lives is the only option.
/r/MensRights05/09/15 07:11 AM
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[personal attacks] That != an argument that anything I said was wrong.
/r/MensRights02/09/15 01:41 PM
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it's common knowledge that they are wrong. That's a form of the "what's popular is true" logical fallacy. "Using the popularity of a premise or proposition as evidence for its truthfulness. This is a fallacy which is very difficult to spot because our “common sense” tells us that if something is popular, it must be good/true/valid" -- http://www.logicallyfallacious.com/index.php/logical-fallacies/40-appeal-to-popularity Hint: Excuses != an argument that I'm wrong. Your other fixation seems to be…
/r/MensRights02/09/15 01:40 PM
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If you told the scientific community What you consider to be the "scientific community," eg a bunch of psychologists sitting around making up stuff, is not the scientific community. Actual sciences are (eg) physics, chemistry, etc. Again, you made no arguments that my own arguments were wrong, thus you lost the debate. "I debunked the idea of "social sciences": they lack physical units of measurement & thus lack accuracy/repeatability. As Feynman explained, it's someone just "making up" somethin…
/r/MensRights02/09/15 11:45 AM
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But the social scientists To be frank, you're using circular reasoning. You believe "social sciences" are real because you assert they are. (Circular.) I debunked the idea of "social sciences": they lack physical units of measurement & thus lack accuracy/repeatability. As Feynman explained, it's someone just "making up" something. In reality when people do a study repeatedly & get wildly different results it's a sign the original "study" was not very valid. But the social scientists still have m…
/r/MensRights02/09/15 08:24 AM
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To be frank, I made specific arguments how capitalist violence/property parasitically exploits workers, & you made no argument that I was wrong. Thus you lost the debate. Your ranting, assertions, etc are irrelevant. But I'll debunk some more. A Social scientist There is no such thing. Actual science has physical units of measurement, & thus accuracy/repeatability. This is explained quite well by Richard Feynman: "Social science is an example of a 'science' which is not a science: they don't do …
/r/MensRights02/09/15 06:08 AM
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You're absolutely wrong about that, there absolutely ARE psychopaths. Emotion != an argument that there's any physical evidence that "psychopaths" exist. The fact that you were scared of some "scary man" is not evidence that "psychopaths" (or witches) exist. That's also sexist, because you're assuming the "evil bad person" is male. will often warn you in subtle ways that they have no empathy In reality people's philosophies control who they hate, don't hate, & thus feel empathy for. If someone h…
/r/MensRights02/09/15 05:21 AM
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Fortunately in a meritocracy, and that we have too I am giggling so hard I could wake people up. Employers would be crazy if they dismissed the talent of somebody just because he wasn't arsitrocratic and didn't know how to dress to a dinner. This shows a non-serious understanding of the economy. Having skills rarely changes who uses violence/property (eg ownership of the land/earth) to own the means of production. Such violence is enforced by the capitalist's state, eg trespassing laws. The owne…
/r/MensRights02/09/15 05:02 AM
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There should be a private registry for people like this. No. The unprovable accusations would be endless, with each side having a totally different story.
/r/MensRights01/09/15 09:51 PM
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I noticed the whole "you have no emotions" insult. She's accusing you of being a so-called "psychopath", born without empathy. This (IMO) means she could be very be dangerous, especially if she ever starts making false accusations about you. "A woman said it, therefore it's true" is what most government workers think. The truth is there isn't any physical evidence that "psychopaths" exist. "Psychopaths" is a moral term demonizing peple with alleged different moral views. ie, it's alleged there a…
/r/MensRights01/09/15 09:49 PM
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earn approximately according to their productivity. Even if we had a 100% "competitive market" (we don't) that wouldn't change how the people born with the most money & social connections would be paid the most. You're assuming we have a 100% "competitive market." That would mean (eg) a market where people weren't bigoted, & don't give certain types of people advantages. All you're doing is assuming.
/r/MensRights01/09/15 07:45 PM
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"Given more." Stop saying "earned" all the time. The world does not work by giving people what they deserve, but instead people with more social connections, born wealthy, etc are given more pay. Similarly, people who are discriminated against (eg blacks) will be generally given less opportunities/pay/etc. And if one gender is preferred (ie women) and the other gender is viewed as non-human unless they provide money for women & children (ie men), then many people will give the women more pay.
/r/MensRights01/09/15 09:55 AM
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[no counter arguments] I expected nothing more. If you can not argue why your beliefs are true, they probably aren't.
/r/MensRights25/08/15 04:55 PM
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who so described themselves were "socialist anarchists" Yeah, because european socialists were the first anarchists, eg Proudhon (the first person to call himself an anarchist) who also called himself a socialist. Similarly, George Orwell was both an anarchist & socialist as well. That's because socialism historically (as defined by socialists) meant workers (not the state) owning their means of production, such as a co-op where active workers owned their business & distributed the income. If yo…
/r/MensRights25/08/15 04:16 PM
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You don't have polling. And I disagree. I think the main point of getting control of the subreddit (and banning everyone who disagrees) is making it appear that most anarchists are like that. From what I see, unfortunately all sorts of people claim to be "anarchists" who are not. But they come in all sorts of silly varieties.
/r/MensRights25/08/15 11:21 AM
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Nazi literally means the national socialist policy. I debunked this already. Again: "I absolutely insist on protecting private property" -- hitler. Party names do not prove someone practiced a philosophy. eg how NK claims it's "democratic." The truth is the Nazis did not practice worker ownership of the means of production (socialism) but instead had an absentee owner class of such who exploited workers. (Capitalism.) Again: "I absolutely insist on protecting private property" -- hitler. You dis…
/r/MensRights22/08/15 01:19 PM
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Noone is forced to work in one of our facilities Your assertion is debunked by the argument above. You just ignored it. "Capitalist property is a form of violent exploitation/parasitism because it violently deprives workers of natural & pre-existing things of value (eg land & it's resources) unless they surrender part of their production to their attacker." -- me Deal with it. North and south korea are a thing, Irrelevant. I didn't endorse North Korea, or say they were socialist. I endorsed anar…
/r/MensRights22/08/15 01:13 PM
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Again: "If there are any logical "points" say them here, & I'll debunk them." You are honestly arguing that my condo is violent? It's enforced via trespassing laws. Ownership of a condo you personally live in is something socialists support.
/r/MensRights22/08/15 01:09 PM
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I'm Jewish. You're trying to pretend the Nazis were socialists. "I absolutely insist on protecting private property" -- Adolf Hitler. "The basic feature of our economic theory is that we have no theory at all." -- Adolf Hitler "German businesses were encouraged to form cartels, monopolies and oligopolies, whose interests were then protected by the state.[41] In his book, Big Business in the Third Reich, Arthur Schweitzer notes that: Monopolistic price fixing became the rule in most industries, a…
/r/MensRights22/08/15 01:07 PM
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of voluntary exchange", That. That is the assertion that "capitalism is freedom." It's simplistic Orwellian propaganda. capitalist property opinions are enforced violently, eg trespassing laws. [no counter argument] I thought so. Yes, if someone rapes me A different topic. Being the victim of violence != initiating violence/threats to enforce property opinions. steals my food Food generally is a different topic than exploitative ownership of land & the means of production. Sigh. a widely accepte…
/r/MensRights22/08/15 12:59 PM
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The public should enforce a non-exploitative personally, I generally think that one should work towards minimizing state involvement in all things, You are changing the topic trying to avoid that capitalist property is exploitative. Again: Capitalist property is a form of violent exploitation/parasitism because it violently deprives workers of natural & pre-existing things of value (eg land & it's resources) unless they surrender part of their production to their attacker. ie, the gunman/capital…
/r/MensRights22/08/15 12:54 PM
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You keep missing the fact that socialists literally stole the things of value my family earned Again, let's just pretend/assume your story isn't blatantly made up. If that's even true, if your family were capitalist owners of the means of production, they violently took/stole the land/earth from the public to exploit them. If the workers practiced self-defense against violent parasitic exploiters, such is not "theft," and it's not "murder". If workers defend themselves from a mugger, capitalist,…
/r/MensRights22/08/15 12:47 PM
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then reply to the points made in the video. If there are any logical "points" say them here, & I'll debunk them. You also havnt talked about enforcement yet. I laughed out loud. I have spoken endlessly about how capitalist property opinions are enforced violently by the capitalist's state, & how non-exploitative (personally used property) does not need a state. (It can be enforced by the non-exploitative people who personally use it.) All property (ownership/control of the land/earth) is enforce…
/r/MensRights22/08/15 12:43 PM
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How would you enforce the workers controlling the means of production. Lets say I own a production facility. I absolutely refuse to give it up. The public should enforce a non-exploitative personally, while practicing self-defense against all exploitative property. eg people who personally used something (without exploiting others) should personally enforce their opinion that they own it. No state is needed. How do you plan on feeding the billions that will be thrust into starvation? That's sill…
/r/MensRights22/08/15 12:38 PM
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[no counter arguments] I made arguments & if you can not make a counter argument then you have lost the debate. Linking to people making assertions != a counter argument.
/r/MensRights22/08/15 12:31 PM
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Yes, property exists. First, you're not making any argument that property enforcement is voluntary. Sigh. Second, I didn't say property didn't exist, or shouldn't. Again: "You're confusing personally used property (which socialists support) with capitalist property (eg absentee land ownership to violently control/govern society.)" -- me Capitalism exists so that individuals who create wealth get to keep that wealth. Wrong. That is just an assertion, & I've debunked it repeatedly. Again: Capitali…
/r/MensRights22/08/15 12:29 PM
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. Not so many textile plants. Incorrect. From the perspective of the landless workers the land/earth itself has been violently stolen from them by exploiters. They did not consent, period. Just a hint: capitalism & statism are the exact same thing. Capitalist "businesses" are just small states- they violently claim territory (absentee land ownership to violently govern/control society). They're small states disguised as businesses. Actual anarchists reject territory, instead wanting an egalitari…
/r/MensRights22/08/15 12:25 PM
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So you want a socialist governence There's no such thing. Socialism is workers (not the state) owning the means of production. Historic socialists- eg Orwel & Proudhon- were often anarchists as well. They meant workers, not the state, owning the means of production. Modern people (eg Fox News) have tried to redefine socialism as "the state." Even communists (eg Marx, Engels, Lenin, etc) all advocated that the state should be eliminated. But the state can not be eliminated until capitalist states…
/r/MensRights22/08/15 12:22 PM
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They would be wrong. That was a government. Governments are not capitalist, as they are not part of the voluntary exchange. That's wrong. Capitalist property is enforced violently, eg trespassing laws. There's nothing voluntary about it. You hear on TV that "capitalism is freedom" (which you are currently regurgitating) but that is not true. Capitalism isn't some vague quest for freedom- it's a specific property system (and state enforced) where the capitalist class owns the means of production.…
/r/MensRights22/08/15 12:14 PM
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Like, a group that forces you to pay up and if you dont, they use violence? Gee. I can think of another institution that does that. I'm an anarchist. Changing the topic "to the gubernment" is irrelevant. And I'm a socialist- I want workers to own their means of production. socialists murdered half my family and stole everything they ever worked for You assert. I'll debunk this. First off, understand this: Someone from Vietnam or Japan (or many other nations) could say "the capitalists killed my …
/r/MensRights22/08/15 12:05 PM
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Except a bird owns its nest, You're confusing personally used property (which socialists support) with capitalist property (eg absentee land ownership to violently control/govern society.) A bird using a nest is like "personally used property." If you're asserting normal non-exploitative property (eg personally used) can be enforced by the people who personally use it, I agree. But capitalist property is not the same. The very few can not violently enforce their opinion that they own practically…
/r/MensRights22/08/15 11:56 AM
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Capitalism, which is a socio-economic system consisting of voluntary exchange In other words, "capitalism is freedom." Exactly what I stated. And debunked: capitalist property opinions are enforced violently, eg trespassing laws. with a respect for property rights, Wrong again. There's many philosophies of what property is legit- people don't agree who owns what. The system of property enforced by the capitalist's state is isn't the one imagined by non-exploitative workers (who seek personally u…
/r/MensRights22/08/15 11:20 AM
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In reality, there's trespassing laws. And they exist because people don't agree who owns what.
/r/MensRights22/08/15 11:17 AM
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If you're offended you probably heard something like "capitalism is freedom." (And thus think I'm "anti-freedom.") Which is completely wrong. Capitalism is a specific property system (that's state enforced) where the capitalist class owns practically all the best land & natural resources (and thus the means of production) to exploit workers. ie, the capitalist class violently deprives workers of land & it's natural resources (which workers need to survive) unless workers surrender part of their …
/r/MensRights21/08/15 11:34 PM
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just as men are more interested in real sciences. I like how you said it. And your username is awesome.
/r/MensRights21/08/15 08:23 PM
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How are there any "anarchists" on the left? First, "the left" is not "the democratic party." The democratic party is owned/controlled by the capitalist class. And anarchists are not protestors with masks. European leftists started the anarchist movement, calling themselves both socialists & anarchists. Socialism does not mean "the government." It means worker ownership of the means of production, such as co-ops where active workers distribute the income. eg the first person to call himself an an…
/r/MensRights18/08/15 09:45 PM
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If you believe the capitalist-owned democratic party is "the left" then you're not even trying to be fair. me: "I personally consider both US parties to be far-right, not 'the left,' and almost the entire world population agrees with me."
/r/MensRights18/08/15 09:38 PM

plenty of anarchists support mainstream feminism. For the common form of "feminism" (which requires state enforcement) that's wrong. If "anarchists" support it, they are not anarchists. eg the mods at /r/anarchism. Mods are just whoever got there first. They are not anarchists. As do socialists. Socialism-- worker ownership of the means of production (eg co-ops) --has absolutely nothing to do with feminism or the gender studies hate movement. but feminism pervades throughout most of the left. Yo…
/r/MensRights18/08/15 09:32 PM

I'll make this simple: You could blame a more specific group (eg) tumblr, the democratic party, etc. But to blame "the left" is blaming all sorts of people (eg anarchists, socialists, etc) for things they don't support. Socialists like George Orwell, Albert Einstein, Proudhon (etc) are not "the democrat party." I personally consider both US parties to be far-right, not "the left," and almost the entire world population agrees with me. When you continue to rant about "the left" it shows you are m…
/r/MensRights18/08/15 07:00 PM

How is it silly? Me: "There is not 'the left' but many groups, subgroups, etc. Just like 'the right' includes extremes like the KKK." It certainly is the left That's just an assertion. I disagree as I explained in the post above.
/r/MensRights18/08/15 06:33 PM
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Are we sure it's even a man? Yes. He's been photographed. He's no longer that anonymous.
/r/MensRights18/08/15 05:56 PM

The left seems to have taken a "pretend this didn't happen" approach. Stop the silliness. There is not "the left" but many groups, subgroups, etc. Just like "the right" includes extremes like the KKK. Plus, people can't even agree who "the left" or "the right" are. eg, I consider man-hating gender-studies types to be bigoted, & thus a type of reactionary conservative. But I don't go around 24/7 blaming every feminist man-hater on "the right."
/r/MensRights18/08/15 04:54 PM
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feminist gender role enforcement That phrase should become more common. The truth about "gender roles" is they're created almost entirely by women- it's women who get to decide which type of man should be allowed sex (how men should act), & what benefits women should get from those men. (How women should act.) And feminists want to take over that power (deciding gender roles) and use it to create an anti-male society.
/r/MensRights16/08/15 06:12 PM
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If someone changes the topic from men to economics, it's them choosing to start that debate. Please stop spamming me.
/r/MensRights16/08/15 05:06 PM
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Hint: I wasn't the one who changed the topic to economics.
/r/MensRights16/08/15 04:54 PM
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Your rant was going perfectly fine, and then you trainwrecked: You changed the topic, asserting that all money somehow gained is "earned", which is completely irrational. Many people get ahead through birth, social connections, & similar advantages. Many people get wealthy through violent parasitism, eg the Wall Street people who crash world economies & walk away with billions, who run child sweatshops, & many other forms of violent involuntary exploitation. That whole concept (absentee ownershi…
/r/MensRights15/08/15 09:37 AM
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is that the MRM usually promotes traditional gender roles. It's nonsense. eg: Sex. Men would love if women started "putting out" like men (frequently), & so on. And men would love to act natural (eg gentle) instead of the "tough & confident guy" act to impress women. Both these "gender roles" (and many more) are created by women. Women generally withhold/control sex in order to get benefits. They date tough guys, etc. I could give endless more examples. Practically all our gender roles come from…
/r/MensRights08/08/15 03:43 PM
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[attempting to change the topic] Now you're going way back, trying to avoid the newest debunk. Again, way back then I was very clear: I immediately clarified what I meant by saying there's no "human nature": "Basically, other than the very basics (eg hunger, etc) there is no human nature. The vast differing amounts of human philosophy & culture disprove the "human nature" myth." -- me And soon after: "I never said human behavior was 100% a blank slate, but said specifically there were basic bodi…
/r/MensRights05/08/15 05:39 AM
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that all members of society could be convinced to care as much about strangers as their own children. Even though that's completely irrelevant, let's be clear: you're "moving the goalposts" again. You: (original) "I asked you to convince me to care as much about some random guy I've never met as I do about my kids" You: (new) "that all members of society could be convinced to care as much about strangers as their own children. " You keep changing it. I began by saying you'd have to convince me T…
/r/MensRights05/08/15 04:51 AM
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There are "a number" of young women who dump their babies in back alley trash cans every year. That does not mean it's the norm You just made up this idea that exceptions to your assertions must now be "the norm"/majority. That's called the "moving the goalpost" logical fallacy. Literally, I asked you to convince me to care as much about some random guy I've never met as I do about my kids You personally are not the topic. Some people (depending on their philosophy, culture, etc) do not care abo…
/r/MensRights05/08/15 02:37 AM
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[no arguments] You've still made no logical argument that I'm wrong.
/r/MensRights05/08/15 02:18 AM
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I'll add bold to make this extra simple. Answer: "Imagine if democrats insist a word means X, & republicans insist a word means Y. There is not some "authority" who decides which side is correct. There is simply a differing of opinion." -- me It doesn't get much clearer.
/r/MensRights05/08/15 02:07 AM
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Imagine if democrats insist a word means X, & republicans insist a word means Y. There is not some "authority" who decides which side is correct. There is simply a differing of opinion. I explained dictionaries already: "Again, dictionaries (at best) only match public usage, & such popularity of propaganda language does not become legitimate because it's put in a dictionary, & dictionaries (controlled by giant corporations) themselves can be tools for propaganda, and they are." -- me
/r/MensRights05/08/15 01:47 AM
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[starting a post with personal attacks] That shows desperation. People don't have sex because I detect the "straw man logical fallacy." To see why, just read what I said: Me: "I never said human behavior was 100% a blank slate, but said specifically there were basic bodily functions (eg hunger) where could be called human nature. " That includes some sexual behavior. Not all- some is based on people's changing cultures/philosophy. They would use reasoning and philosophy to decide that liking sex…
/r/MensRights05/08/15 01:37 AM
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[complete confusion] "Listing" propaganda language is irrelevant. You're not even understanding what I'm saying. I'm not saying no one uses propaganda language, I'm saying it's invalid because it's propaganda. Your confusion on dictionaries is also irrelevant. Again, dictionaries (at best) only match public usage, & such popularity of propaganda language does not become legitimate because it's put in a dictionary, & dictionaries (controlled by giant corporations) themselves can be tools for prop…
/r/MensRights05/08/15 01:23 AM
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I said that the claim is valid in the United States. Again, it's propaganda, not "valid." And that ("I said that bla bla bla") is the "you." /Sigh I personally wouldn't call it "propaganda", and I think Merriam-Webster would agree This is not a logical argument. Propaganda terms are commonly defined by giant corporations, which does not make them legitimate.
/r/MensRights04/08/15 11:59 PM
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[the straw man logical fallacy] I never said human behavior was 100% a blank slate, but said specifically there were basic bodily functions (eg hunger) where could be called human nature. Basically, the idea that "human nature" matches anyone's political beliefs is silly. not sex differences in brain form Another straw man. I didn't say that. Just to be clear, even if small boys like different toys (which is true), that's irrelevant to intelligent adults. Once people grow into full control of th…
/r/MensRights04/08/15 07:05 PM
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I never made one single claim about my own political beliefs Do I have to repeat myself? "The issue isn't your personal endorsement, but your "reasoning" where you obediently regurgitate how one of the two capitalist parties is "the left."" -- me to explain to you how the word was used You don't have to explain the propaganda/lies- I'm aware of how some people use propaganda language. If I wasn't, I wouldn't have called such propaganda. Obviously. /sigh. than that he is engaged in some kind of c…
/r/MensRights04/08/15 06:59 PM
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Capitalism, simply, is a system whereby trade is enabled by the use of some agreed on currency. That's dishonest. It's like the whole "capitalism is freedom" propaganda. It's not even close to a serious understanding of how the means of production is owned & how that violence leads to people sitting around receiving constant money for ownership. Even a small child who inherits such could sit around "earning" billions. (Note the sarcasm about "earning.") You're also failing to understand the effe…
/r/MensRights04/08/15 06:11 PM
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The "two parties" could be running General Lee vs Stonewall Jackson, and people like you would think one of them was "the left." I've never made one single claim about my own political beliefs The issue isn't your personal endorsement, but your "reasoning" where you obediently regurgitate how one of the two capitalist parties is "the left." That's propaganda. . All I have done is explain to you how the words "left" and "right" in reference to politics are used in the United States. You're confus…
/r/MensRights04/08/15 04:13 PM
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Conspiracy It's not a vast conspiracy- the attempt by the powerful to trick us into believing in a fake democracy is done right in front of you. You just have to open your eyes. The "two parties" could be running General Lee vs Stonewall Jackson, and people like you would think one of them was "the left." Just open your eyes.
/r/MensRights04/08/15 02:56 PM
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Certainly human societies have changed over time, in their customs and norms. However, that does not disprove the existence of a human nature You're simply confused. The idea of "human nature" is that people's behavior/traits/etc are an unchanging thing they're born to follow, and the fact that people's behavior/etc changes disproves it. Basically, other than the very basics (eg hunger, etc) there is no human nature. The vast differing amounts of human philosophy & culture disprove the "human na…
/r/MensRights04/08/15 02:51 PM
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human nature. There isn't this "human nature." Society's culture has changed many times & will again. Basically: > Societies have changed countless times over thousands of years, proving "human nature" isn't a static, unchanging thing. (There isn't one universal human nature that exists for all people in all places at all times under all conditions.) -- u/JebusWasHere Similarly: > "To look at people in capitalist society and conclude that human nature is egoism, is like looking at people in a fa…
/r/MensRights04/08/15 11:58 AM
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Then in your definition of capitalism you said it is the concept is constructed by the owners of the means of production vs everyone else. You simply have no idea what I said. Socialism is about active workers owning their means of production, while most capitalist businesses are based on absentee land ownership, eg, where workers are violently deprived of the land & it's natural resources unless they surrender part of their production to their attacker. I've explained this a million times, and …
/r/MensRights04/08/15 12:07 AM
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you said that my definitions for the words are how they are being used by "Propagandists". Even if I said what you think (sigh) that is irrelevant. I even cited an article supporting me. Someone who believes gay means "devil man" can cite some fundie who wrote an article. Irrelevant. being a "fact", and a "definition" are two different I didn't say they were the same thing. Thus, yet again, irrelevant. "Definitions" are how people interpret a word, Again, I am talking about definitions/meaning. …
/r/MensRights03/08/15 10:37 PM
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the people who misuse the term are engaged in a massive conspiracy among tens of millions of people to smear the definition. I didn't say that. I explained how words have multiple alleged meanings, popular, less popular, etc. And the less popular one (eg the non-propaganda meaning) is not wrong because it's less popular. This means that accepted definitions in certain time periods may not be accepted definitions in other time periods. I A cop out. Even in some past times, the "most popular" mean…
/r/MensRights03/08/15 09:30 PM
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[ad hominem attempt] I never said I learned "most of what I know from Engels & Lenin." Sigh. a massive loss in efficiency without submission to authoritarian rule, Even more absurd. The truth is workers (in a co-op) can elect managers & so on- they can manage themselves with gunmen forces society into a society of bosses/masters & a public forced to serv ethem.
/r/MensRights03/08/15 09:27 PM
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Seems to me you just contradicted yourself Incorrect. You haven't argued how. It's an economic system that If your "definition" of capitalism is just talking like a politician, eg "high production" "more good" "less bad" (etc) that's not serious. Please don't try to interpret the communist manifesto to anyone but yourself, no one else but you is going to have that interpretation. Btw, I'm not a Marxist. I never said I was.
/r/MensRights03/08/15 09:25 PM
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how it's being used [by propagandists] FTFY. when the public accepts a word to mean something First, you don't know that. Second, even if it was true that doesn't mean that what's popular is true. eg, in the 70s it was popular to define "gay" as a "mental illness" (or worse, eg the christian majority may define gay as 'sinful devil behavior'.) Imagine if a gay man said that's all wrong, "gay means homosexuality." He wouldn't be wrong because he was the minority. Under your "reasoning" whatever p…
/r/MensRights03/08/15 06:45 PM
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[what wiki says is true] That's the whole "what's popular is true" logical fallacy. Quoting wiki (what's popular on wiki) is not a logical argument that people claiming to be "marxist feminists" have beliefs which are consistent with Marx's views.
/r/MensRights03/08/15 05:25 PM
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[still no argument] Your post is a really bizarre form of the "appeal to authority" fallacy. The truth is assertions are valid based on their evidence/reasoning, not who said them.
/r/MensRights03/08/15 05:16 PM
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In the U.S. the left is used nearly synonymously with "Liberals/Democrats", That's the lie. If you regurgitate their propaganda it's not helping. Really in the US there are many views, both right & left, and practically all of such is ignored. While only the very wealthy's capitalist opinions are represented by the state.
/r/MensRights03/08/15 05:15 PM
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I don't think you have a fair understanding of what capitalism is. Capitalism is not some vaguespeak about freedom- it's a specific violently enforced property system where the capitalist class owns the means of production to exploit workers. If that exists, plus welfare, that's a capitalist welfare state. eg, Europe. Your news, teachers, etc all say that's "socialism" because they've been taught to regurgitate such. It's not what historic socialists said. Actually historic socialists (eg Proudh…
/r/MensRights03/08/15 05:13 PM
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[only an assertion] An assertion is: "x is true." An argument is: "x is true because of y evidence/reasoning." Your post is only asserting, not arguing. If you're trying to say "they call themselves marxist feminists", then I'm not disagreeing with that. I'm saying they're lying and/or too stupid to know what Marx actually advocated.
/r/MensRights03/08/15 04:55 PM
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to Marxist feminism. I find that term mildly humorous, because they aren't Marxists at all. Marx wanted the state to "fully wither away" into anarchism once capitalist states were defeated. (Under Marx's ideal society, there'd be no state for so-called "marxist feminists" to enforce their opinions with.)
/r/MensRights03/08/15 04:46 PM
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Except it's not the left. The "two sides" of capitalist allowed parties are all right-wing capitalists. The left is for: workers owning their means of production, eg worker's co-ops where active workers own the co-op/business. so workers keep the full product of their work, without having to surrender part of it to a parasitic class of absentee land owners. Similarly, "the left" includes: anarchists who seek violent/state hierarchy abolished.
/r/MensRights03/08/15 04:11 PM
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Hating men has always been how society worked- for centuries before anyone heard of "feminism" the average man was seen as meat to throw into wars. (Not a person with feelings.) Now we have "feminism" which uses state power to take advantage of such hatred. (Portraying practically all men as evil "privileged", & vice versa.) And that state/political power is slowly weakening. However the root of the problem- the hatred & complete lack of empathy for men - remains. And I can't imagine how we remo…
/r/MensRights18/07/15 07:09 AM
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Kind of long clip. When is the event you're speaking of?
/r/MensRights09/07/15 04:34 PM
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There is not one attack in my post. Wrong. You are not mentally healthy. Yet another personal attack.
/r/MensRights06/07/15 10:14 PM
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I've debunked 100% of what you have said. Again: If you quote yourself about something you think I didn't debunk, I'll quote my debunk of it. Simple.
/r/MensRights06/07/15 05:36 PM
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[alleged] medical journals probably don't know what correlation vs. causation is That's the appeal to authority fallacy. I'm not saying they can't understand such, but that they want to believe something so they pretend it's true. They produce pseudo-science that pretends it's true. Read the fucking abstracts I did. It's the standard stuff I debunk all the time. As I said before, "difference != a disease." These "brain scan comparisons" between people (even if they were correct) do not prove the…
/r/MensRights06/07/15 05:32 PM
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When it directly, 100% contradicts You're confused. You didn't quote anything. You can't link to things and expect people to guess what your "evidence" is. Linking to assertions made by psychiatrists is not evidence that the assertion is true. Your core argument this whole time was "no physical difference = no disease". Well you're 100% wrong. And I have proven it. I'm still waiting to hear what you have "proven." ie, quote some evidence & I'll debunk it.
/r/MensRights06/07/15 05:16 PM
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You argued that there were no physical signs. First, you showed no evidence for anything. You can't just link to things and expect people to guess what the "evidence" is. Let's clarify some basic things: Linking to psychiatrists asserting something is not evidence that the assertion is true. You have provided no evidence that there are "physical signs" for so-called schizophrenia. I didn't say "physical signs" relating to the schizophrenia myth. Psychiatrists may claim many things, but they are …
/r/MensRights06/07/15 05:13 PM
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mania. So called "mania" (eg with allegations of "delusions") is not the same thing as happiness. [more language confusion] I debunked this all before.
/r/MensRights06/07/15 05:06 PM
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please, go and debunk every example I listed I did in all these posts. It's right there. Diseases often don't have a single symptom. You're playing semantics games. If an alleged disease had no physical damaging effect (physical loss of function etc) on someone it would not be a disease. But there ARE physical findings of psychiatric illness. You haven't argued that. Linking to things is not arguing it either. Again: "The state & it's psychiatrists claiming their theories are neurology/etc is no…
/r/MensRights06/07/15 04:57 PM
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[links] Linking to things != making a counter argument. The state & it's psychiatrists claiming their theories are neurology/etc is not an argument that such is true, and even if they did find some difference between so-called "schizophrenics" & everyone else that "difference"can not be assumed to be a "mental illness." Different != a disease.
/r/MensRights06/07/15 04:52 PM
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[linking to wiki] Wiki is based on popularity & quoting it as truth is using the "what's popular is true" logical fallacy. Again: "Sometimes doctors studying actual physical disease will give an early diagnosis, but because they then verify this with physical repeatable experiments (ie physical units of measurement & thus accuracy/repeatability) we can verify the physical disease itself is not just made up." -- me In contrast, the topic of "mental illness" (behaviors & feelings) is about moralit…
/r/MensRights06/07/15 04:01 PM
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Please debunk every example of illness I listed I did. If you'd like to copy & paste your rantings I can copy & paste my debunks for you. There ARE diseases of height Being tall or short, without any other physical differences/problems is not an illness. You might be thinking of dwarfism, which makes people massively more likely for many surgeries/etc. It's not an illness for someone to be simply short- the problem is the other physical problems. I explained the concept of functional impairment.…
/r/MensRights06/07/15 03:58 PM
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visually identifiable specimen I didn't say visually. I said (in various posts) that a physical/real illness can be physically measured with physical units of measurement, and thus accuracy/repeatability. This-- physical repeatable experiment --shows such isn't just a subjective opinion. But physically measuring something itself it not proof the measured thing is a disease. Just being different is not a disease. In contrast, the topic of "mental illness" (behaviors & feelings) is about morality.…
/r/MensRights06/07/15 03:34 PM
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The brain is an organ in the human body. All organs in the human body have diseases which affect them. That's not an argument against anything I said. I didn't say no brain diseases exists. Brain disease is a different topic. "Mental illness" is assuming that behaviors/feelings which are morally disliked (by the state) are "mental illness." The truth is: no behavior, misbehavior, or feeling can be a disease: there is nothing to physically examine. And "mental illness" theories are based on moral…
/r/MensRights06/07/15 03:00 PM
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A mental disorder/illness is evidenced by continued patterns of behavior that cause mental anguish/difficulty functioning That's a subjective opinion. Such could include: "Laziness disorder" "Anti-authority thinking disorder" "Eating donuts disorder" Or whatever nonsense the state wanted to create. People are still working on acquiring chemical evidence Even if there was a link between a chemical & an alleged behavior/feeling, that does not prove the behavior/feeling is a "mental illness." Examp…
/r/MensRights06/07/15 02:28 PM
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that aren't from a crackpot who has a hard time citing his own evidence, I've quoted: the NY times, The guardian, the BPS, Allen Frances, the director of the NIMH. And probably more people. I was multitasking & not keeping a list. Btw: personal attacks != an argument that I'm wrong. I (as the skeptic) didn't even need to quote any of such. It was overkill. The person who is claiming something exists (eg "god" or "mental illness") must prove it. We skeptics must only point out the lack of evidenc…
/r/MensRights06/07/15 01:06 PM
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[personal attacks] None of that is a counter argument against my arguments.
/r/MensRights06/07/15 11:47 AM
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There was no statement made that "what's popular is true". Incorrect. eg you said "Sorry the rest of the world doesn't agree with you." To be frank, you are misunderstanding language. Language is purely a social construct & is scientifically not right or wrong, but popular or unpopular. Examples: Many decades ago a majority could have defined gays as "people charmed by satan to sin." Gays would disagree & use a different definition, such as "people with same sex partners". The fact that gay's de…
/r/MensRights06/07/15 11:45 AM
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It sounds like your post is just a personal attack or personal comment about me. That is not an argument that I am wrong. But one thing, I just noticed the link above (in the post you responded to) didn't copy. (My typing mistake.) If you're curious the link was: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transvestic_fetishism This "mental illness" is the idea that if you masturbate to straight porn that's fine, but masturbating to transsexual porn is considered a "mental illness."
/r/MensRights06/07/15 09:19 AM
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How do you propose to prove the existence of malarial pathogen in 400 BC People don't have to fully understand a physical disease to see physical damage (eg death by various physical means) & physical signs of such developing on a person. Diagnosing such is not the same as imagining that feelings (or behaviors) are illnesses. No behavior, or misbehavior, can be an illness: there's nothing to physically examine. The same is true for feelings. But there is a bigger logical fallacy here: You are pr…
/r/MensRights06/07/15 09:11 AM
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[personal attacks] That's not a counter argument. [appeal to popularity] "What's popular is true" is a logical fallacy. To be frank, your entire post is just logical fallacies.
/r/MensRights06/07/15 09:00 AM
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I am mentally ill. Assertions != arguments. An assertion is: "X is true." An argument is: "X is true because Y evidence/reasoning." Asserting your belief in "mental illness" is not an actual argument for anything. You probably assert something like "I am mentally ill because I feel X." But no behavior or feeling is an illness, or can be an illness: there's nothing to physically examine. You might have various "mental conditions." Some of them may be out of your control. Maybe you were born diffe…
/r/MensRights06/07/15 08:56 AM
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[personal attacks] That != a counter argument to any of my own arguments.
/r/MensRights06/07/15 08:52 AM
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Before I start, YSK: "the British Psychological Society released a statement claiming that there is no scientific validity to diagnostic labels such as schizophrenia and bipolar disorder." -- guardian.co.uk/science/blog/2013/may/20/mental-illnesses-depression-pms-culturally-determined "There is no scientific evidence that psychiatric diagnoses such as schizophrenia and bipolar disorder are valid" -- guardian.co.uk/society/2013/may/12/psychiatrists-under-fire-mental-health A normal person can dri…
/r/MensRights06/07/15 08:49 AM
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We can't measure lots of things directly, including aspects of the mind. Of course. That is not an argument that anyone's alleged behaviors or feelings (whichever the state morally doesn't like) are "mental illnesses." If people could prove there was a chemical linked to happiness, or hard work, no one would declare it was a "mental illness" because they think those are good. Declaring behaviors good or bad is moral. "Psychiatry" is a bunch of violent moral philosophers, who kidnap, beat, suffoc…
/r/MensRights06/07/15 08:38 AM
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Physically killing a person, physically weakening their immune system (etc) are not imaginary. In the end, you are trying to defend faith-- belief without evidence. And that is just not serious. We didn't have the tech to pinpoint HIV until decades after it started killing people. Irrelevant. The effects of HIV were physically measurable, & not just imaginary assumptions like "mental illness."
/r/MensRights06/07/15 01:27 AM
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as someone that has been diagnosed with BPD, A few decades ago you could be "diagnosed" with being gay. It's not relevant since there the "illness" was not an illness. Really there was no "diagnosis", or "treatment." All of such (pretending such was an "illness") was simply people pretending. You may have a mental condition that's different than normal people, but it is not an illness. [talking about someone personally] A logical fallacy. None of that is a counter argument to my own arguments. A…
/r/MensRights06/07/15 01:24 AM
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Just because you can't measure something doesn't necessarily mean it isn't real. That's faith. ie belief without evidence. You aren't simply saying something could exist- you're believing in it without evidence. And in this case such couldn't exist. "Mental illness" can't be proven to be real because the concept of "mental illness" is absurd, similar to "thought cancer". Just like no one can prove a "philosophy infection virus" (or similar) no one can prove "mental illness."
/r/MensRights06/07/15 01:05 AM
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You couldn't get HIV until I didn't say that. That is not debate. Mentioning HIV (which was physically measurable the entire time because it physically hurt immune systems & killed people) is not an argument for any imaginary "mental illness" you have no evidence for. Here's a hint: if your "argument" could defend psychiatry's former claim that gays are mentally ill, it's probably bad.
/r/MensRights06/07/15 01:02 AM
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You're confused. The only "evidence" you've brought up for "mental illness" is that some alleged traits can be identified. Thus, under that reasoning, anything with alleged traits that can be identified could be called "mental illness." You offer one definition of illness. That is part of the debate. Just like if there were people trying to define a "thought infection," that's part of the debate. Allen Frances said something very different about how to define "mental illness."
/r/MensRights06/07/15 12:57 AM
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a mental disorder (also known as a mental illness) can be defined by the pattern of behaviors that are common to it. What you're implying is that any feeling/behavior, just because there's an alleged pattern, can be a "mental illness." If that was true, anything could be an "illness." Examples: Eating donuts, watching "too much" TV, etc. and assume it is true You don't have to. As the skeptic, it is the person claiming "mental illness" exists who must prove it. Observable behavior is physical ev…
/r/MensRights05/07/15 10:15 PM
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[personal attacks] That != an argument that anything I said was wrong.
/r/MensRights05/07/15 09:31 PM
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Accusing someone of a logical fallacy != an argument that it's true. /sigh.
/r/MensRights05/07/15 08:57 PM
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[personal attacks, assumptions, etc] All logical fallacies. I have seen many people accused of "mental illness." Psychiatrists pretend over a third of society is "mentally ill." Accused people are everywhere. As for people accused of myths like "schizophrenia" I have seen them too, & if such people had due process (eg if they were told what psychiatrists alleged they said or did) they could simply deny such. And psychiatrists would have no evidence at all that the persons they violently terroriz…
/r/MensRights05/07/15 08:54 PM
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That quote != an argument for believing that "mental illness" is a real/physical illness. ie, quoting that (even if we were to assume it was a legitimate definition) is not an argument against anything I said.
/r/MensRights05/07/15 08:48 PM
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schizophrenics There is no such thing as "schizophrenia." The Guardian: "The British Psychological Society released a statement claiming that there is no scientific validity to diagnostic labels such as schizophrenia and bipolar disorder." http://guardian.co.uk/science/blog/2013/may/20/mental-illnesses-depression-pms-culturally-determined NY Times: "[BPS]... released a remarkable document entitled “Understanding Psychosis and Schizophrenia.” Its authors say that hearing voices and feeling parano…
/r/MensRights05/07/15 08:45 PM
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[no arguments] That != a counter argument. Your newest assertion is also not an argument that anyone's mind has an illness or similar (eg a mental cancer, plague, etc.) All of such is absurd. None of what you said is a counter argument to my own arguments, or any argument that anything I said was wrong.
/r/MensRights05/07/15 08:43 PM
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however the assertion was immediately followed by the argument Wrong, what you immediately said was faith: "Just because you can't measure a specific variable or 'chemical' level doesn't mean a condition is non-existent. " Such (faith) is not an argument that any "mental illness" exists. The problem is you're saying that we should only believe something if there is strong evidence. You have a "problem" with strong evidence now. However, if something is already generally widely accepted Appeal to…
/r/MensRights05/07/15 08:40 PM
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[attacking the British Psychological Society] A common logical fallacy. Let's just imagine (for sake of argument) you were right that they weren't a "medical" group. Even if that was true (sigh) that's irrelevant: Arguments are valid based on their evidence/reasoning, not who said them. Skeptics of psychiatric claims, like all skeptics, must simply point out the lack of evidence. It is the person claiming the "mental illness" exists who must prove it exists. but you haven't provided any credibil…
/r/MensRights05/07/15 08:35 PM
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Parkinson's Disease Alzheimer's & Parkinson's are both physically measurable via microscope. ie, they are brain diseases. "the patient with Parkinson's disease has decreased neurons and pigment as seen microscopically" -- http://library.med.utah.edu/WebPath/TUTORIAL/CNS/CNSDG012.html A "mental illness" is when someone pretends feelings/behaviors/etc are an illness. eg if they claim it's okay to wank off to straight porn, but wanking to transsexual porn is "transsexual fetishism." Mental illnesse…
/r/MensRights05/07/15 08:26 PM
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That is, the illness is diagnosed based on clinical acumen and features, not a laboratory test. I'm obviously aware of such, & in actual science such will be verified by physical experiment. If it wasn't, people could just make up stuff that wasn't physical/real. those with paranoid schizophrenia There is no such thing as "schizophrenia." The Guardian: "The British Psychological Society released a statement claiming that there is no scientific validity to diagnostic labels such as schizophrenia …
/r/MensRights05/07/15 08:20 PM
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We don't yet have the technical capability to describe the physical underpinnings of many psychiatric illnesses. That- is faith. Aka circular reasoning. You assert there's an "illness" because you assert there's an illness. You're just assuming an "illness". . You mistake this for evidence that they don't exist I'm the skeptic. You must prove someone's mind/thoughts have an illness. I simply must point out the lack of evidence, which you have already admitted. The [alleged] diseases have extreme…
/r/MensRights05/07/15 08:07 PM
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they're fairly known for being adamantly against drugs I'm 100% for drugs. I'm against pretending various behaviors/feelings are "mental illnesses." Such myths might make some adults feel better, but they are used to abuse millions of children, & to take away the human rights of the very poor. There's more people than jobs & many people end up fighting homelessness. It's a systematic problem. And yet, instead of a real understanding of their problems (eg violent oppression, the "excess male", et…
/r/MensRights05/07/15 08:00 PM
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insufficient serotonin production First, there isn't any diagnosis of depression based on measuring serotonin. But even if a chemical change (someday) was actually linked to depression, there is the issue of cause & effect: ie, it's possible people's depression (the emotion) causes chemical changes. We can not assume the opposite. The truth is the issue is about moral & similar subjective opinions. eg if "happiness" was linked to a chemical change in the brain no one would say it was a "mental i…
/r/MensRights05/07/15 06:32 PM
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The fact that the "chemical imbalances" slogan is a myth doesn't prove or disprove whether SSRI drugs help people. I am not against drugs, I am against people pretending feelings/behaviors are "mental illnesses", which includes people pretending their drugs are "medicine." They're drugs.
/r/MensRights05/07/15 06:29 PM
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What you're implying is that any feeling/behavior related to the physical brain can be an illness. If that was true, anything could be an "illness." Examples: Eating donuts, watching "too much" TV, etc. Really the fact that drugs can help people is not an excuse to pretend everything is an "illness." Or to pretend that the drugs are "medicine," which "treat" someone. Actual illnesses have physical damage (ie physically measured with physical units of measurement), or physical loss of function, e…
/r/MensRights05/07/15 06:25 PM
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the perpetrator was suffering from a mental illness That's just a subjective opinion: Allen Frances: "psychiatric diagnosis still relies exclusively on fallible subjective judgments rather than objective biological tests" -- Allen Frances, DSM-IV chairman in 2013 Really a "mental illness" is just a label for alleged behaviors/feelings, not a real/physical illness. Thomas Insel: “DSM diagnoses are based on a consensus about clusters of clinical symptoms, not any objective laboratory measure.” -- …
/r/MensRights05/07/15 06:12 PM
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I didn't say you shouldn't take any drugs, I explained that "mental illness" is a label for alleged behaviors/feelings, not a real/physical illness.
/r/MensRights05/07/15 06:09 PM
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I'm an atheist. Personal attacks != an argument that anything I said was wrong. The "chemical imbalances" myth above is wrong: "In truth, the ‘chemical imbalance' notion was always a kind of urban legend - never a theory seriously propounded" -- psychiatrictimes.com/blogs/couch-crisis/psychiatry%E2%80%99s-new-brain-mind-and-legend-%E2%80%9Cchemical-imbalance%E2%80%9D
/r/MensRights05/07/15 06:07 PM
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chemical imbalances That assertion is completely unproven. "In truth, the ‘chemical imbalance' notion was always a kind of urban legend - never a theory seriously propounded" -- psychiatrictimes.com/blogs/couch-crisis/psychiatry%E2%80%99s-new-brain-mind-and-legend-%E2%80%9Cchemical-imbalance%E2%80%9D There's simply no diagnoses of "mental illness" based on measuring chemicals in the brain.
/r/MensRights05/07/15 06:06 PM
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The obvious question is 'could mental illness Blaming "mental illness" is not logical- a "mental illness" is just a label for alleged behaviors/feelings, not a real/physical illness. Thomas Insel: “DSM diagnoses are based on a consensus about clusters of clinical symptoms, not any objective laboratory measure.” -- Thomas Insel (Director of the NIMH) @ psychologytoday.com Allen Frances: "Mental disorders don't really live ‘out there’ waiting to be explained. They are constructs we have made up - …
/r/MensRights05/07/15 04:16 PM
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n an attempt to make sure they count everybody living on couches To put this another way, they're not counting many of the actual homeless, but they are counting many people who aren't actually homeless. The state has no idea how many homeless people there are. The people you see on the street are called "rough living" homeless, Language is a purely subjective creation of the mind. The fact that you use some language does not make it correct. Even if gunmen, or a popular (majority) mob uses it, …
/r/MensRights28/06/15 05:38 AM
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Homeless doesn't mean [words] You're wrongly assuming words have only one meaning. The most clear & severe "homelessness" is either on the street or in a really bad "shelter" which is essentially more like a prison. Of both groups, it's practically all men. women/children are more likely to be in shelters Because the people funding/controlling "shelters" discriminate against men. Society, and the ruling class especially, views poor & struggling men as essentially subhuman non-persons who should …
/r/MensRights28/06/15 02:32 AM
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[personal attacks, logical fallacies, etc]
/r/MensRights28/06/15 12:17 AM
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[emotion] Emotion is not an argument that anything I said was wrong.
/r/MensRights27/06/15 11:40 PM
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In contrast, people in charge of police states which cause so-called "homelessness" (landlessness, when the few violently own practically all the best land to exploit the many) want to ignore the homelessness their violence causes.
/r/MensRights27/06/15 08:31 PM
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Your post seems to show a weird bias, where you seem to want to assume people are inflating. You could equally say "homeless stats are very easy to minimize, if you want to."
/r/MensRights27/06/15 08:11 PM
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I've seen like 99% homeless men IRL. I wonder if they count "homeless women" differently, eg to inflate the stats. But what's implied here, by ads like "there are homeless women too" (therefore you should care) is that men aren't full people deserving of empathy.
/r/MensRights27/06/15 07:49 PM
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libertarian capitalist There is no such thing. The state exists to remove the liberty of whoever is governed. And the capitalist's opinion that they own practically all the best land & natural resources (and thus the means of production) can only be enforced violently by their police state. eg trespassing laws. Such violence (removing the liberty of the public) is how the ruling class violently governs the public. Because of their violence/property, workers (once deprived of the land & natural r…
/r/MensRights01/06/15 05:59 PM
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I'm 100% left. I want worker ownership of the means of production. Not state ownership. I want the rich's police state abolished into an anarchist world. The "government" is just the new word for violent slavery of society. Violence to overpower & control other adults, under any name, is still slavery.
/r/MensRights01/06/15 07:26 AM
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Someone who thinks they see literal demons is delusional. Talking to "god" isn't considered delusional. Hopefully you're starting to see the problem here. Next, people often mean "delusional" as anything they disagree with. Republicans & democrats often view the other side as delusional. ie, a subjective opinion. And to be frank, in my view it's delusional to believe the mind be infected with illness. ie, I believe to non-delusional people "mental illness" is just a made up label for behaviors/f…
/r/MensRights01/06/15 03:55 AM
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Then we've got to look at this from a Feynman perspective. Feynman's perspective was that only hard science (with physical repeatable experimentation) is science. He did not consider "soft science" to be a science. Richard Feynman: "Social science is an example of a 'science' which is not a science: they don't do science, they follow the forms, gather data, but don't have laws... We get 'experts' on everything that sound like experts. They're not scientific experts. They sit at a type-writer & m…
/r/MensRights28/05/15 05:57 PM
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a symptom of mental illness First off, there's no such thing. A "mental illness" is just a label for alleged behaviors/feelings, not a real/physical illness. Thomas Insel: “DSM diagnoses are based on a consensus about clusters of clinical symptoms, not any objective laboratory measure.” -- Thomas Insel (Director of the NIMH) @ psychologytoday.com Allen Frances: "Mental disorders don't really live ‘out there’ waiting to be explained. They are constructs we have made up - and often not very compel…
/r/MensRights28/05/15 02:29 PM
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If you think the psychological community is wrong because they won't list "driving on the highway" as a mental illness, I didn't say that, & frankly you're completely illiterate. I used "driving on the highway disorder" only as an example of how the APA excluded alleged "good" behaviors. They're violent moral philosophers, not scientists. Me: You can tell the state's "psychiatrists" are choosing emotions/behaviors which they feel are bad because 1) they exclude the alleged "good" behaviors (ie n…
/r/MensRights28/05/15 01:27 AM
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Interesting that you think driving on the highway should be classified as a medical condition. I didn't say that. As if that absolves you of the requirement to source your claims. You somehow misunderstood. A source is important for scientific claims, eg about a physical substance. Educating people about "what science is" is a matter of language, which is purely a construct of the mind. Also: "Arguments are valid based on their evidence & reasoning, not who said them." -- me I have explained eve…
/r/MensRights27/05/15 07:42 PM
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I haven't made any specific claims about some physical substance. I've explained what is & isn't science as understood by actual scientists (eg physicists, chemists, etc.) [personal attacks] I expected nothing more from you. That is not an argument that I'm wrong.
/r/MensRights27/05/15 03:39 PM
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That says nothing about a requirement for physical units of measurement Again, the reason there is accuracy (and thus repeatability) is the physical units of measurement. Without such you're just making up stuff via purely subjective reasoning. eg: "two units of good behavior" or "five units of bad emotions." [No you're confused 1!!1] Arguments are valid based on their evidence/reasoning, not who said them. You can tell the state's "psychiatrists" are choosing emotions/behaviors which they feel …
/r/MensRights27/05/15 02:06 PM
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Which definition of science are you using that requires physcial units of measurement, Any with accuracy & repeatability. Claiming that psychologists want to prove things they dislike are mental illness seems like a rather large strawman argument. You're confused. I'll explain with an example: feelings that the state subjectively likes (eg happiness) are not seen as "signs of mental illness" but what they subjective don't like are simply voted on as "mental illness." ie, using language that soun…
/r/MensRights26/05/15 10:06 PM
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there are certainly cases where it still only has that "Wondering" about a theory without scientific evidence (ie physical units of measurements etc) is producing a theory which is not scientific. They may be science related theories, at best. ie theories about science but without evidence they are not part of science. That a science is still young does not mean it is not a science. This is the common claim of various alleged "psychologists", who are in reality simple philosophers. eg, they clai…
/r/MensRights26/05/15 06:45 PM
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just like we can wonder why this water sample shows a concentration of 400 ppm Cu, Science has more than wondering. With physical units of measurement comes accuracy & repeatability, often shocking accuracy. Milgram's work was about obedience to authority. The whole topic. Obedience to alleged "authority figures" is debated morally, not by scientists. Milgram's research was great important research, it just isn't science. Something does not have to be science (physics, chemistry, etc) to be grea…
/r/MensRights25/05/15 01:42 AM
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Let's start with Asche's. This is similar to when high school students give silly answers (eg not knowing where their own nation is on a map) & people have to subjectively decide why. Many people took it literally for years before realizing high school kids could be sarcastic. ie, that is all about interpretation of why someone gave a bad answer. It could be many things, eg, it could be they selected people from a group already known for "conformist" behavior. Or (eg) maybe they just didn't care…
/r/MensRights24/05/15 04:26 PM
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"Does subject do X? What percentage of the test subjects did X under Y conditions?" No no. There is no physical unit of measurement, & thus how you decide "what counts as X" is purely subjective opinion. If you think that's wrong, you don't know what "subjective" means. What's "subjective" is what is purely in your mind. "Subjective existing in the mind; belonging to the thinking subject rather than to the object of thought (opposed to objective ). " -- http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/sub…
/r/MensRights23/05/15 11:16 PM
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Yes. Physical sciences have physical units of measurement, and thus accuracy & repeatability. Without such, there's just people making up stuff via purely subjective reasoning.
/r/MensRights23/05/15 04:12 PM
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You're changing the topic to the curriculum, which is very often propaganda, but not the topic here.
/r/MensRights14/04/15 08:41 AM
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Laws, bureaucracies, etc.
/r/MensRights14/04/15 08:07 AM
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Both so-called "state" universities & so-called "private" universities are controlled by the state.
/r/MensRights14/04/15 07:02 AM
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[confusion] Hint: we're in a police state where universities are almost fully controlled by the state. If we were in a free/anarchist society, saying "start a university!!" would be a valid point. [personal attacks] I expected nothing more from you.
/r/MensRights14/04/15 05:38 AM
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[irrelevant] What "services" they offer other students is irrelevant. They could buy a building for students wanting X service, & rent a building for a few hours for students wanting Y service. Please stop spamming me.
/r/MensRights14/04/15 03:45 AM
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I Explained to you why the building That building is irrelevant. Any building, ie the cheapest one possible, would do. They could rent some office space for an hour & not even own a building. /sigh /sigh /sigh
/r/MensRights14/04/15 03:30 AM
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There are 5000 kids in the college of business Again, irrelevant. A building needed for a few hours of exams is not the same as a building for endless long classes. Don't force your ideology on others You're so confused it's almost cute. It's the current ruling class forcing their ideology on others. Allowing people to prove what they know is not some tyranny.
/r/MensRights13/04/15 08:36 PM
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building cost over 30 million Irrelevant. That is not needed. Any building would do for a few hours, which costs almost nothing. it's why? That's just subjective philosophy. Colleges could exist for all sorts of reasons, but they could exist to ensure the most knowledgeable people are certified for their knowledge. I advocate this. If a uni allows to just pay for the exam: how do they afford to pay the 30 million. I don't care because I didn't endorse any 30m buildings.
/r/MensRights13/04/15 07:18 PM
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[illiteracy]
/r/MensRights13/04/15 06:21 PM
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They don't build a whole building just for exams. Using a building for a few hours (etc) is cheap. They could charge people just the cost of using the building a few hours (& hiring some) "teachers" to watch for cheaters. Exams could be dirt cheap.
/r/MensRights13/04/15 06:20 PM
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If they were jailed for bureaucratic allegations after being targeted for their political beliefs, to honest people, they were jailed for their political beliefs. Deal with it.
/r/MensRights13/04/15 04:03 PM
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The capitalist class, who has violently enforced absentee ownership of practically all the best land & natural resources (and thus the means of production.)
/r/MensRights13/04/15 03:39 PM
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What city?
/r/MensRights12/04/15 01:30 PM
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Neither of the capitalist owned political parties (or their media stations) are leftist. You are being fooled to believe in a fake left, but it's all owned/controlled by the same people.
/r/MensRights12/04/15 09:23 AM
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. You stated something as if it were a fact without any evidence at all. As the skeptic (to the faith/religious belief in the "psychopath") I must simply point how such a belief is based on assumptions & thus is baseless. [personal attacks] The irony is, it's you promoting a faith/religious belief. I'm the atheist & skeptic. A long time ago there was a religious practice called "shamanism." They claimed various people had "soul illnesses" & some were evil/etc like witches. "Psychiatry" is the ne…
/r/MensRights12/04/15 02:23 AM
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It actually IS evidence for that. Incorrect. People's brain scans could show different because of their different philosophies. Example: If one man loves black people, & another hates black people, their brain scans would look different watching a black person get hurt. Got it? Good. detailed brain scans, MRIs, I already debunked that myth. showing differences in structure of their brains. Incorrect. They are just looking at different electricity/etc & assuming it's a different structure in the …
/r/MensRights12/04/15 02:14 AM
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That's not evidence that people are born that way, instead of choosing via philosophy who to have (or not have) empathy for. Example: When racists in the south lynched blacks, it wasn't that they were born without empathy for blacks, but chose not to. Similarly, some people can choose to hate just about everyone.
/r/MensRights12/04/15 02:04 AM
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There is no such thing as a "psychopath." No one can prove anyone else was born without empathy. The truth is people choose, via philosophy, whether to accept/deny empathy for other types of people. It can be all people.
/r/MensRights11/04/15 05:44 PM
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A [state created/enforced] movie studio refraining from hiring you [because state attempts to silence you] FTFY. You are not honest. It's obviously censorship. Deal <sup>Deal</sup> ^<sup>Deal</sup> ^^<sup>Deal</sup> ^^^<sup>Deal</sup> With <sup>With</sup> ^<sup>With</sup> ^^<sup>With</sup> ^^^<sup>With</sup> It <sup>It</sup> ^<sup>It</sup> ^^<sup>It</sup> ^^^<sup>It</sup>
/r/MensRights09/04/15 10:39 PM
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You have not cited a single example of persecution Wrong. Accusing people of being traitors & censoring them because of their political beliefs is persecution. or jailing of people for their political beliefs Wrong. People were jailed that were targeted because of their political beliefs. --- get get get get get get off off off off off off the the the the the the internet internet internet internet internet internet
/r/MensRights09/04/15 09:58 PM
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[denial & spin] You have not make a single logical argument that we can ignore the persecution, censorship, & jailing of people that were targeted because of their political beliefs. Honestly, I'm still shocked there's a McCarthyist on reddit. I have a suggestion for you: Get off the internet. Got it?
/r/MensRights09/04/15 09:41 PM
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[complete denial] First, people were jailed. And they were not Soviet spies. And lots of people were banned from making films, that's censorship. You seem to have no problem with such tyranny. The vast vast majority of people accused were just random famous leftists, & to be frank, you're failing to comprehend the damage done (to democracy, free speech, etc) when all sorts of random innocent leftists are accused of being traitors & soviet spies. It's a way to attempt to control politics & thus t…
/r/MensRights09/04/15 08:22 AM
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[complete spin] You're trying to defend an attempt to jail & terrorize people for their political beliefs. Stop. Just stop.
/r/MensRights09/04/15 12:18 AM
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I completely disagree. I see "Where were the [words] repeated, & that's (IMO) clearly a list.
/r/MensRights08/04/15 11:52 PM
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IMO, your post really needs to utilize the "- text" formatting. eg: One Two Three Please edit it so it doesn't look so bulky.
/r/MensRights08/04/15 11:46 PM
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I'm curious if you are getting your posts confused & replying randomly.
/r/MensRights07/04/15 07:12 AM
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I try to upvote lots of stuff here, but not this. This implies boys/men who choose self-education over bureaucratic (and expensive) schooling are less knowledgeable. Really all the knowledge learned via language is the same despite it's source. Expensive, cheap, etc. It's exactly the same.
/r/MensRights06/04/15 06:36 AM
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I don't support any of these current politicians, but the "lesser evil" might be Bernie Sanders. His support of worker co-ops is an important issue to me. If Hillary wins the primary I think many people on the left are going to fall asleep. She's not interesting. She was a wal-mart attorney who married the right guy.
/r/MensRights03/04/15 02:57 AM
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I mean, if there is an allegation/"story" said on TV (or on some website) the ultimate evidence is high quality video. I see the propaganda everywhere, but only believe videos generally. One of the better news sites is: http://www.wsws.org/ And this is a great site: http://www.madinamerica.com/ But both are more like newspapers- usually a tad nerdy & boring. I want news to be more exciting.
/r/MensRights03/04/15 02:45 AM
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None. There is no good media/news source AFAIK. I trust videos the most. They occasionally can be edited but that's fairly rare due to costs/labor.
/r/MensRights02/04/15 07:28 PM
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That's not the left. The so-called "democratic party" is not it. They are just another capitalist owned party, like a puppet. In their "elections" you can vote for one side of capitalists, or the other. And the capitalists elect themselves yet again in a fake election. The actual left supports worker ownership of the means of production, such as worker co-ops where active workers keep the full value from their work.
/r/MensRights20/03/15 02:40 PM
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I'm sure that you think MSNBC is awesome, No. It's capitalist owned propaganda which exists, generally, to create a fake left which is (in reality) a group of of capitalist owned mindless shills.
/r/MensRights20/03/15 02:34 PM
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I consider CNN to be a propaganda network as well. We need new media and we should stop paying attention to propaganda networks.
/r/MensRights20/03/15 02:33 PM
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And he has a citation. A 'source' for what is just subjective opinion is not scientific evidence- it's still only subjective opinion. Science has repeatable physical experiments, ie physical units of measurement, and thus accuracy & repeatability.
/r/MensRights19/03/15 12:26 PM
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It's not just who watches it. The rest of the world thinks (essentially) that most of whatever Fox says is a lie or myth. I do not expect the other media (eg MSNBC) to accept men's human rights any time soon. Basically, men's issues will remain an internet thing for a long time. Edit: btw I was not the one who downvoted you.
/r/MensRights18/03/15 06:07 PM
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Those are capitalist owned right-wing networks. I didn't endorse any of them. An actual leftist news source (eg) is the WSWS. However I am not endorsing them either. I do not know enough about all their issues to endorse them. MSNBC/etc may be left on one or two issues, but they must submit to their censors/owners & promote capitalist propaganda generally.
/r/MensRights18/03/15 04:40 PM
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This doesn't help. Fox "news" is a joke.
/r/MensRights18/03/15 04:14 PM
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Since when is bigotry a conservative trait? It's simply one form of conservatism. "Conservatism" is often defined something like: "Holding to traditional attitudes and values and cautious about change or innovation" Which has been perfectly linked with bigotry. However, there are other issues where people are "conservative" which are entirely logical. eg: If someone creates an overly tyrannical new law the "conservative" thing would be to oppose it. Q. But why do they oppose such? A. It's not "b…
/r/MensRights09/03/15 03:16 AM
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feminism is left They say that. Really when you see a feminist who hates men (ie bigotry) their bigotry is reactionary & an extreme conservative trait. Such bigoted man-haters try to hide their reactionary conservatism by pretending to be leftists.
/r/MensRights08/03/15 11:42 PM
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[no arguments] Attacking me personally != an argument that anything I said was incorrect. Do I have to repeat this for you?
/r/MensRights27/02/15 07:16 PM
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[ad hominem fallacy] That is not an argument that I am wrong.
/r/MensRights27/02/15 05:52 PM
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The DotP != communism. The temporary state (dotp) which communists would use to defeat the the capitalist's state is not the same thing as the society which communists seek. (Communism.)
/r/MensRights27/02/15 04:27 PM
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[denial] Actually the very wealthy control the elections, media, political parties, etc. Period. Please stop spamming me with your denial.
/r/MensRights27/02/15 02:47 PM
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I don't think you're being honest. The very poor do not have lobbyists, politicians, etc. ie, in the USA there are two right-wing capitalist parties which are essentially owned by Wall St & similar parasitic super wealthy peoples. And if you pretend otherwise I can not take you seriously, at all.
/r/MensRights27/02/15 01:56 PM
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We disagree who's the left. The democratic party ruling class, the TV corporations, etc != left.
/r/MensRights27/02/15 01:27 PM
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the left DOES deserve criticism on the subject of feminism As for man-hating feminists, I don't consider their bigotry to be part of the left. They are reactionaries (extreme conservatives) trying to disguise themselves as egalitarian leftists.
/r/MensRights27/02/15 04:21 AM
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Communists advocate a stateless society & should not be labeled "authoritarian." The fact that some politicians have done bad things (and also great things) reflects local politics/etc & not the communist philosophy of statelessness. Engels: "The state will inevitably fall. Society, which will reorganise production on the basis of a free and equal association of the producers, will put the whole machinery of state where it will then belong: into the museum of antiquity, by the side of the spinni…
/r/MensRights27/02/15 04:18 AM
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The real issue is that there's a police state where the few own practically all the land. There's more people than jobs, & thus so-called "excess" men, who could normally claim land & build homes. (But they can't when they're violently deprived of the land.) Somehow, almost no one blames the violent tyrants in charge. They hide it all by advocating welfare. A "welfare state" is a cover-up to a tyrannical police state. The rulers enslave the public, & disguise their tyranny with welfare policies.
/r/MensRights03/02/15 10:07 PM
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[changing the topic to Szasz] 100% irrelevant. and the minute there was evidence of an objectively demonstrable biological pathology the subject became neurology That's circular reasoning. You're asserting a disease ('pathology') only based on your assertion that such is pathology. Again, difference != a disease. A physical (real) illness has physical damage, physical loss of function, etc. But some specific differences can cause troubles with life. That's just some vaguespeak about "differences…
/r/MensRights03/02/15 03:07 AM
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As in "neurologically demonstrable via a brain scan That's not true. But if it it was, it's irrelevant. Brain scans showing "difference" are irrelevant because different != a disease. Really when these quack fundies tell you they can see some difference on brain scans, they are in fact only showing difference in electricity. And they're pretending (assuming) that is a difference in the matter of the brain. ie, they're lying. and requires assisted living If that's true, that is not evidence that …
/r/MensRights03/02/15 02:03 AM
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First of all, autism is not a single disease, its actually a broad spectrum of disorders Please stop the religion. Autism is not a disease or disorder. That is denigrating people for being (allegedly) different. Even if you could find something physically different about autistic people, different != a disease. Psychiatry is a religion, promoted by the state, primarily to enhance state power.
/r/MensRights02/02/15 11:14 PM
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Are you truly this illiterate? I didn't say "calculus has no use to anyone on earth." I said: "Most school math is not useful to normal people."
/r/MensRights02/02/15 02:23 PM
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[spamming illiteracy] I was generalizing. I said repeatedly I was talking about most. Not all. "Most of the algebra taught in school (eg the endless names of things you temporarily memorize) is not useful in real life to most people." -- me You have not made any logical argument that I was wrong. I debunked your illogical spam. Please stop spamming me.
/r/MensRights02/02/15 04:24 AM
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[misreading] I wasn't talking about all algebra. I believe people use very basic algebra all the time. I said: "Almost all of algebra 2 & a clear majority of algebra 1 are not used in real life often. "
/r/MensRights02/02/15 03:11 AM
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I've always loved math because Again, "math" generally is not the topic. The math taught in school is not useful in the real lives of normal people. but that doesn't mean the subject itself I wasn't talking about "the subject itself." Again: The math taught in school is not useful in the real lives of normal people.
/r/MensRights02/02/15 03:10 AM
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That's blatantly untrue, though. Algebra teaches you Again, that shows you are failing at reading. I did not say: That say all algebra is worthless. I did say: Most of the algebra taught in school (eg the endless names of things you temporarily memorize) is not useful in real life to most people. If you have no idea how math works, That (again) shows your reading/literacy issues. I did not say people should have no idea how math works. And forget about going into any area more advanced than basi…
/r/MensRights02/02/15 01:59 AM
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saying math isn't "something of actual value" is hugely ignorant. Reading comprehension is something of value, you might want to study it. I didn't say math is of no value. I said most of the math taught in school (eg most algebra) is not useful to normal people. If you want to go into computer science I'm a programmer & almost all school math I was taught was just time wasting obedience training. If you want to get involved in the growing fields of data analytics/machine learning/that kind of t…
/r/MensRights02/02/15 01:29 AM
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and can't think of anything Almost all of algebra 2 & a clear majority of algebra 1 are not used in real life often. Even most programmers don't use it. eg, memorizing the endless names of mathematical reasoning. Almost no one remembers that because it's not useful.
/r/MensRights02/02/15 12:03 AM
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I'm not convinced there's a "math gap for boys." But if there is, it might be because boys are expected to learn things of actual value (eg job skills) and not the math taught in school. And the vast majority of school math is useless fluff that they will never use.
/r/MensRights01/02/15 11:47 PM
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These men are being used That. I agree completely. Honestly this is the best post I've seen here in a very long time.
/r/MensRights28/01/15 02:20 PM
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The whole "linking stuff to autism" stuff is not science. Just like the "linking vaccines to autism" scare, this type of stuff is just embarrassing. What's really being linked isn't any boy's brain, but the treatment of those children by their parents. Among things: These parents (who have their boy's genitals mutilated, & thus are probably more likely abusive) could be more likely to abuse their children until they seem less social. The same parents could be more likely to take their children t…
/r/MensRights21/01/15 12:54 PM
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History shows they're not. That's just an assertion. Assertions != arguments for why the assertion is true. Honestly, you don't even understand how arguments work. Maybe you should educate yourself.
/r/MensRights19/01/15 05:03 AM
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[assumptions] You don't know that, & you can't know that. Until there is a cheap & non-bureaucratic system allowed then almost everyone will go into the state's system. That is not evidence that bureaucracy is more wanted.
/r/MensRights19/01/15 02:04 AM
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But it's much easier with a guide and a structured environment. For you. And that's fine, but some people prefer to learn without any bureaucracy.
/r/MensRights19/01/15 01:46 AM
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The speaker is confusing schooling & education. Really all the normal knowledge (knowledge learned via language) can be studied by anyone. The truth is many colleges are about "paying to play," not education. And you can tell because they don't allow people to take exams unless they pay for the whole schooling package.
/r/MensRights18/01/15 01:06 PM
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and a socialist on the Seattle city council. If they're against the violent exploitation of the working class, that's a good thing. The problem is our rulers come from the upper class, & the upper class has their own versions of every philosophy where they continue to rule & enslave society. Actual socialism (worker ownership of the means of production) is like a worker's co-op, or other non-exploitative business.
/r/MensRights17/01/15 08:51 AM
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[more personal attacks] That's very revealing- it reveals who here is debating rationally & who isn't. (Who many people would consider the "troll.") If you can not argue for your beliefs, they're probably wrong.
/r/MensRights14/01/15 04:28 AM
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[personal attacks] That != an argument that I was wrong.
/r/MensRights14/01/15 04:09 AM
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If we accept that calling people evil/"empathy less" is not innate then it's not very different than accepting that some people are jerks. There's not a lot of money to be made from that. And it's hard to prove which side is worse, & thus the real "jerk." In contrast, calling people evil "psychopaths" is a much easier strategy to profit. The accusers can build endless prisons & hire endless staff to enslave people for life. All with endless layers of highly paid "managers." They can essentially …
/r/MensRights14/01/15 04:00 AM
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This is pseudo-science. Really in a hardcore feud (eg a lot of DV) both sides will often describe the other person as empathy-less (evil) "psychopath." But really people decide via philosophy to hate/mistreat people. ie, they decide to not have empathy for people. The idea there's people "born without empathy" is not provable. It's simply assumed by people who make money "diagnosing" such, & profiting off of such myths.
/r/MensRights13/01/15 08:42 PM
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[illiteracy] Again, it's violent slavery because there is a ruling class who uses the threat of violence & murder to force the weaker public to follower their commands. If you have no counter argument, just admit it.
/r/MensRights11/01/15 01:36 PM
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. The state is violent slavery because there is a ruling class (not supported or necessary to statehood) You are not being honest with yourself. This is basic logic. Logically, if there is a state/government (which violently governs) then: Those attacked/enslaved people are the lower class. The people attacking them are the ruling class. Do you understand yet? that uses the threat of violence and murder (not supported or necessary to statehood) Again, this is a matter of honesty. States violentl…
/r/MensRights11/01/15 01:13 PM
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[emotion] Emotion, such as declaring things are fecal matter of bulls, is not an argument that I am wrong. Yes, but it would happen constantly with no law enforcement Murder happens all the time under the state. By the state. Endless millions & they get away with it because they're the state. In contrast, anarchism (eg in Spain for a while) happened with far less murder. You need to understand that murder is one of the main purposes of statism. The state exists to violently control/enslave/murde…
/r/MensRights11/01/15 01:11 PM
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[personal attacks] That is not an argument that I am wrong.
/r/MensRights11/01/15 12:33 PM
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[no counter arguments.] If you can not argue why your beliefs are correct, they probably aren't. You have lost the debate. used the phrase "violent slavery" enough Again, I even explained how the state is violent slavery: there is a ruling class who uses the threat of violence & murder to force the weaker public to follower their commands. Thus, violent slavery.
/r/MensRights11/01/15 12:20 PM
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[propaganda assertions] Assertions != arguments to why the assertions are true. YSK the "history" written by the West & is not accurate. It is often purely propaganda. eg, silly claims about Stalin killing 60m (etc) people. How is this claim made? Let's break it down (and debunk it) in detail. The gulags. Gulags are called killing camps on Fox News (etc.) Reality: Over their entire history they had about a 98% survival rate. (But much higher during ww2.) Which is expected with very limited resou…
/r/MensRights11/01/15 12:15 PM
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if someone shoots you from behind? Y Obviously body cameras (and other non state security cameras) could often catch that. That can happen under the state. Sometimes murderers get away with it. If there was no evidence then having a "state" (violent slavery) wouldn't help anyways. They'd often just frame a poor black man to make the prison industry more money. State "justice" is not actual justice. It is (almost always) simply the opinion of the wealthier party (with more lawyers) enforced on th…
/r/MensRights11/01/15 12:08 PM
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That certainly wouldn't result in abuse and isn't the reason we created states in the first place. /s You are confused. The state itself (slavery of the weak by the powerful) is abuse. you'd know that in Greece there was no ruling class when it was [an alleged] democratic [state.] Incorrect. In all states there are people violently attacked (the weak) & people who control the state. (The powerful.) Even if the "ruling class" was not super wealthy, that's still violent slavery of the weak. Exampl…
/r/MensRights11/01/15 12:02 PM
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[no counter argument]
/r/MensRights11/01/15 11:51 AM
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It's logical: if some thug attacks you & you are armed you can almost always practice self-defense. If you combine that with body cameras & similar (non-state cameras) then the truth can be immediately shown to the public to clear the name of the victim.
/r/MensRights11/01/15 11:51 AM
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you're not making an argument Incorrect. eg, I explained/argued how all the new valued services/products "from" the state (which people credit to state for) are actually created by work/workers. (Because all new value comes from work/workers.) ie, the state violently steals & redistributes value. Then tries to trick people into thinking they created that value. You have no counter argument. [more personal attacks] Again, that's not a counter argument.
/r/MensRights11/01/15 11:08 AM
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[personal attacks] Personal attacks != arguments that I am wrong.
/r/MensRights11/01/15 10:49 AM
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You: What do coops have to do with the state? You: Health care, emergency services, water, plumbing, infrastructure etc. Co-ops can do all of those. Your assumption is that violent slavery ("the state") creates some value. Really work/workers (eg co-ops) create all new value. And workers can defend themselves, enforce non-exploitative property, & (if attacked) make judgements seeking a just society. State/slavery "administrators" are not needed. If co-ops need managers, they can elect them in a …
/r/MensRights11/01/15 10:48 AM
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Now suddenly we need a police force and a judiciary Actually (almost always) you just need a public with self-defense & cameras. Body cameras, etc. Such could almost always protect the innocent. But if the peace is broken so severely that mobs/states are formed, that is not a problem with anarchism. It means the condition of anarchism will be broken until that issue is solved (eg) by the self-defense of the public.
/r/MensRights11/01/15 10:42 AM
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However, statelessness isn't even remotely an option for a society as complex as ours. Assertions != arguments. The state is violent hierarchy (slaves & masters.) And all sorts of complex production & services can be done without it. eg, co-ops. eg, there are worker's co-ops with tens of thousands of employees. Some have about 80k workers. So giant projects could be done. Of course, I shouldn't have to say that because there is no need for any organization that large & society could function fin…
/r/MensRights11/01/15 10:07 AM
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[assertion] Assertions != counter arguments.
/r/MensRights11/01/15 08:17 AM
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I advocate statelessness, not mass murder like committed by the USA. "The United States Has Killed At Least 8 Million People" http://www.peaceonearth.net/8million.htm
/r/MensRights11/01/15 05:25 AM
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[Misunderstanding what communism is] Communists seek a stateless/anarchist society, & thus complete free speech. A temporary state (to defend workers from violent exploitation) != communism. Engels: "The state will inevitably fall. Society, which will reorganise production on the basis of a free and equal association of the producers, will put the whole machinery of state where it will then belong: into the museum of antiquity, by the side of the spinning-wheel and the bronze axe.” -- marxists.o…
/r/MensRights11/01/15 02:40 AM
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The problem is sexist teachers who purposely mark down boys. Study: "Female teachers are deliberately marking boys down – even when they do better in tests" -- http://www.cornwallcommunitynews.co.uk/2014/05/05/female-teachers-marking-down-boys/ "Eliminating feminist teacher bias erases boys' falling grades, study finds " -- https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/eliminating-feminist-teacher-bias-erases-boys-falling-grades-study-finds Then, if that wasn't enough, many colleges give women higher scores…
/r/MensRights21/12/14 10:20 AM
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What should be said more is that this is happening sexist teachers are purposely marking down boys in school. "Female teachers are deliberately marking boys down – even when they do better in tests" -- http://www.cornwallcommunitynews.co.uk/2014/05/05/female-teachers-marking-down-boys/ "Eliminating feminist teacher bias erases boys' falling grades, study finds " -- https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/eliminating-feminist-teacher-bias-erases-boys-falling-grades-study-finds Then, if that wasn't enou…
/r/MensRights19/12/14 12:42 PM
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How do you figure? They're aware (from reading about bans/censorship) that if they stop getting any replies that they're likely shadowbanned. Plus they can just check by visiting the URL in a different browser.
/r/MensRights19/12/14 07:02 AM
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It's like a ban but you aren't aware of it But when used against normal reddit users (who understand reddit) they're immediately aware of it. So instead of "stopping spammers," it can potentially be used for simple censorship. And no one is unbiased.
/r/MensRights18/12/14 09:13 AM
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I think you missed one: Mother Jones Editor tweets: "It would be funny to play pinata with the bodies of white straight men who hung themselves" -- /r/MensRights/comments/2kwe80/mother_jones_editor_tweets_gamergate_it_would_be/
/r/MensRights02/12/14 03:17 AM
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You are just asserting that the mind can have an infection/illness, not arguing how it's true. The truth is the mind can have a condition, but no part of our mind (our thoughts, feelings, etc) can have cancer, plague, illness, etc.
/r/MensRights26/11/14 08:22 PM
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that I have a history of mental illness which is not true at all. I neglected that in the first post but my point was that she actually does have a mental illness history and This is exactly the type of dirty stuff I was talking about. Instead of taking the high road, you're going to denigrate each other with "mental illness" myths. YSK a "mental illness" is just a label for alleged behaviors/feelings, not a real (physical) illness. “DSM diagnoses are based on a consensus about clusters of clini…
/r/MensRights26/11/14 02:14 PM
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There's a bunch of stuff you're doing that just looks dirty. eg trying to denigrate this woman like so: "the sexual abuse came to light. This was when my sons mother was 13 and she was later diagnosed with PTSD from that incident and the abuse." Using such alleged "mental illness" (which is only a description of alleged feelings/behaviors) from such an event is not being fair. It sounds dirty. And that's the problem when women do it, & men too. Fighting over kids shouldn't be like this. Instead …
/r/MensRights26/11/14 12:53 PM
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The cop who told you to simply apologize may have been trying to trick you into "admitting" guilt. The people (even public defenders) giving young men "advice" to not fight back are not allies. Instead, if you'd done nothing but plead innocent, you'd at least have a chance. (Maybe an appeal, another appeal, etc.) Basically, the various "advice givers" (who act like they're your friends) are all part of the prosecution. They only seek to destroy the lives of boys & men. They want no defense from …
/r/MensRights04/11/14 02:17 AM
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but seeing someone naked is nowhere near as bad as rape. That's not what's being compared. The state (if not for the girl not wanting to press charges) would be willing to ruin the guy's life & give him some shocking prison sentence. Later, they'd happily label him a "sex offender", once he's released from prison.
/r/MensRights04/11/14 02:13 AM
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Some might call it "cancer", but different doesnt mean disease. Cancer is more than being simply different, it physically kills the person. Please be serious. You wrote of "malfunctioning parts of the brain." If someone has a different order of cells (those that don't kill other cells,) different brain waves, different brain pathways, different chemicals, etc then again "different != a disease." but tuberculosis definitely was an unexplained set of symptoms, just like mental illness is now More …
/r/MensRights26/10/14 03:59 AM
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providing food, shelter and clothing for themselves By "jobs" I wasn't talking about volunteering (work without pay.) I was talking about people being paid to provide a product or service. I am completely fine with a volunteer economy. In many centuries that may be how society works.
/r/MensRights26/10/14 03:51 AM
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well be able to point to malfunctioning parts of the brain that cause a mental illness j You're using circular reasoning. You're implying "mental illnesses are real because I assert they're real." You made no argument how the mind can have an infection/illness. Really: Even if you could explain how the brain works in detail, showing that someone has a different brain is not proof of any flaw/etc. Different != a disease. There's simply mental conditions. Saying "conditions is important"- it doesn…
/r/MensRights26/10/14 03:28 AM
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No, I'm saying that creating jobs is creating jobs [because I assert it's creating jobs!11111] Circular reasoning. You have made no argument how the person violently controlling jobs is creating those jobs. Yeah, I control the diamond supply, but I still created the rings. Again, there's no jobs unless consumers spend & purchase such. Please stop spamming me. See the part about the robot factory (or web server, etc). Demand can change with no effect on jobs. Your "part" on robots was illogical c…
/r/MensRights25/10/14 07:59 PM
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Your post is 100% confusion & assertions without argument. you seem to be saying that creation of jobs via unfair acquisition of resources Here, all you're doing here is asserting that controlling jobs is creating jobs. That's dishonest. Let's say I own all the diamonds in the world and I decide to make some diamond rings Again, without consumers there's no job. Actually, many thousands of workers are controlled by whoever owns the land/resources. It's not just one guy. [Managers decide.] The co…
/r/MensRights25/10/14 07:18 PM
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Because men who struggle with mental illnes Please remember a "mental illness" is just a label for alleged behaviors/feelings, not a real/physical illness. > “DSM diagnoses are based on a consensus about clusters of clinical symptoms, not any objective laboratory measure.” -- Thomas Insel (Director of the NIMH) @ psychologytoday.com > "Mental disorders don't really live ‘out there’ waiting to be explained. They are constructs we have made up - and often not very compelling ones." -- Allen France…
/r/MensRights25/10/14 07:08 PM
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see my comment above. You have spammed this repeatedly, so I offer the same debunk: You're confusing controlling jobs with creating jobs. Violently controlling jobs (eg through owning the land, natural resources, & thus means of production) != creating jobs. I further debunked your 100% illogical post here.
/r/MensRights25/10/14 06:32 PM
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see my comment above. Your comment was not logical. Violently controlling jobs != creating jobs. I further debunked your 100% illogical post here.
/r/MensRights25/10/14 06:31 PM
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Your post was not intelligent, for multiple reasons. But who is the person directly responsible for creating a job description and hiring a person for that job? A business. You're confusing controlling jobs with creating jobs. Any violent group which takes over the land/resources (and thus the means of production) can control hiring. To understand this, imagine an area before anyone claimed territory- where land ownership was only for personal use. Then, there'd simply be a market of consumers &…
/r/MensRights25/10/14 06:25 PM
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Who besides corporations and businesses creates jobs? Corporations do not create jobs. Consumers do by buying items. Compare: Imagine if all the corporations vanished. There'd still be workers & consumers doing all jobs. But imagine if consumers vanish, jobs vanish. (Because jobs come from consumers.)
/r/MensRights25/10/14 04:28 PM
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[no arguments]
/r/MensRights25/10/14 03:41 AM
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The non-economic aspects of socialism and feminism are exactly the same. The moral argument. The upper class oppresses the lower class. Imagine someone was opposed to slavery. And someone said: "it's just like feminism!!11111" "Why? They say there's an upper class oppressing the lower class!1111 Therfor feminism is just like soicalism!1111" That's not serious. The obvious difference is: one of these accusations of oppression (the capitalist & their police state used to exploit workers) is real. …
/r/MensRights25/10/14 02:50 AM
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There's nothing similar. There's nothing about worker ownership of the means of production (eg co-ops) which has anything to do with feminists. I'm not against all feminists. There's lots of non-internet feminists who don't hate men. But feminists online (in contrast) tend to be hardcore klan-like haters of the whole male gender.
/r/MensRights25/10/14 02:07 AM
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She's still just one person. I've seen endless people just like her. A significant amount of online feminists have practically her exact attitude.
/r/MensRights24/10/14 03:59 PM
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Watch again. She's saying "know your place" to men supporting abortion. ie, her philosophy is that men's thoughts don't count. The truth is someone's gender is irrelevant in debate & no race/gender/etc should be told "know your place, you know nothing."
/r/MensRights24/10/14 10:04 AM
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Video: Shouting feminist tells men "Know your place! This is a women's movement! You know nothing!"
/r/MensRights23/10/14 10:00 PM
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I point this out about every two months I must've missed it. Sorry.
/r/MensRights21/10/14 09:09 PM
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"for the MRM feminism" That's weird grammar. Do you mean "for MRM vs feminism?"
/r/MensRights21/10/14 03:06 AM
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Brilliant. Honestly you should get "Submission of the year" for noticing this.
/r/MensRights21/10/14 02:56 AM
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This is (imo) the main topic the MRM should be talking about more. Please (if you're the creator) make more content like this.
/r/MensRights20/10/14 11:44 PM
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"Website unavailable"
/r/MensRights20/10/14 08:28 PM
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This video has been deleted/censored. Is there a mirror?
/r/MensRights15/10/14 04:51 AM
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[violence denial] Look at trespassing laws. Ownership of the land/earth is enforced violently, eg trespassing laws. How is it circular reasoning? Reread. I explained that already. I made no argument against your "violent parasitism" because it's so far disconnected More denial. You can not provide a counter-argument. Again: the capitalist/gunman is a violent parasite because they violently deprive workers of the land & it's natural resources unless they surrender part of their production to thei…
/r/MensRights12/10/14 01:00 PM
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[circular reasoning] You failed to comprehend. To make this simple, your "reasoning" is circular reasoning. You're advocating this: "We should use violence/property to make land into a commodity because we can use violence to make land into a commodity." Which is not logical. It is no justification for the violent parasitism (violently depriving workers of land & it's natural resources unless they surrender part of their production to their attacker.) Hint: Above I said the idea that you should …
/r/MensRights12/10/14 03:53 AM
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Land [should be] a commodity Only to people who believe in violent parasitism. Really land is not a product of anyone's work, & yet violence (property enforcement) is used to enforce ownership of it that is to parasitically take the production of various workers. it's not terribly expensive. In may parts of the nation (especially near consumers/jobs) that's totally wrong. They're not lacking land, they're lacking shelter. They can't build shelter primarily because they have no land. Sigh.
/r/MensRights12/10/14 02:50 AM
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I wish more people realized that "homelessness" was almost always about land. (The real issue is landlessness.) And we could almost eliminate homelessness simply by distributing land for personal use. (And allowing people the freedom to build.) This topic reminds me of Adam Smith: "Government, so far as it is instituted for the security of property, is in reality instituted for the defence of the rich against the poor, or of those who have some property against those who have none at all." -- We…
/r/MensRights11/10/14 06:00 PM
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Women live longer ON AVERAGE, That's what he meant.
/r/MensRights07/10/14 07:53 AM
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[personal attacks] Personal attacks != an argument that anything I said was wrong.
/r/MensRights04/10/14 02:13 AM
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If this is just a trespassing charge then it's not a big deal.
/r/MensRights03/10/14 11:47 AM
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Sigh. I made no argument against reasoning/etc. I'm explaining that if you criticize individuals (eg a woman being a hypocrite) instead of stereotyping a whole gender you'll reach more people & sound less bigoted.
/r/MensRights03/10/14 01:12 AM
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You're not helping. Please try to talk about individuals more, eg criticizing individuals, without stereotyping an entire gender.
/r/MensRights02/10/14 11:39 PM
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[more emotion] Sigh. Whining over semantics != an argument that I'm wrong. Whatever the term is, we anti-exploitation people are against violently attacking workers to take part of their production because that's parasitic. Hints: All language is a subjective human construct. I define the "few" and "many" just like normal. Saying it's exploitation to use violence to take part of the production of a worker is a simple matter of honesty.
/r/MensRights02/10/14 11:33 PM
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And when you try to do so you'll finally understand that might does make right. You have made no argument for how violently overpowering them makes the attacker's views correct/right. If you can not argue for your beliefs, they're almost always wrong. And equally valid as your subject opinion that it should be distributed in an egalitarian & non-exploitative fashion. No- you have made no argument for violently exploiting others. I'm against using violence to take any of a worker's production bec…
/r/MensRights02/10/14 11:28 PM
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Might does make right. Under your "reasoning" if someone beats up an innocent child, they're right because they were able to overpower their victim. The truth is that's silly, & might does not make anyone's views right/correct. You think that land is yours? Land should be distributed in an egalitarian & non-exploitative fashion. Oh, you're going to take, by force, things that other people own? The few's idea that they own practically all the land is just their subjective opinion. We socialists/a…
/r/MensRights02/10/14 03:37 PM
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[emotion] Your "logic" here is called the "might makes right logical fallacy." Emotion != an argument for anything. The simple reality is the attacker/capitalist violently deprives workers of the land & it's natural resources (which workers need to survive) unless the worker surrenders part of their production to their attacker. Thus, violent exploitation.
/r/MensRights02/10/14 03:07 PM
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Self-defense. (The best solution to exploitative property/violence is self-defense.) If people practiced self-defense against any attacker seeking to exploit them, exploitative property would be abolished.
/r/MensRights02/10/14 02:53 PM
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The way you're writing could be a lot better. To see the problem, just imagine someone stereotyping all men in an insulting way. This: "They [all men/women generally] are [some offensive accusation.]" Is not going to reach people as easily.
/r/MensRights02/10/14 12:50 PM
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[emotion] No. Opposing exploitative property/violence is the same standard for all people. Instead if your property is for personal use (or other non-exploitative purposes) it can be seen as legitimate to those of us against exploitation.
/r/MensRights02/10/14 12:48 PM
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"Progressivism 95, Socialism 87.5 Tenderness 50" "private property" Just an FYI: "private property" (eg as defined by Marx) is not all property. It's property used by the few to exploit workers. "Communism is not the abolition of property generally, but the abolition of bourgeois property... [Which is] the system of producing & appropriating products that is based on class antagonisms, on the exploitation of the many by the few." -- Manifesto ch2.
/r/MensRights02/10/14 07:03 AM
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That sounds like you're generalizing all women. I hope that's not what you meant, & that you'll please rewrite that. Among things, you said: they simply don't have what it takes to be successful leaders.
/r/MensRights02/10/14 03:45 AM
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You said that perfectly. Upvoted.
/r/MensRights28/09/14 11:01 PM
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a man having a problem further up It wasn't the suffering of labor, but another type. It's not saying people ignore all male suffering, but a working male's suffering. (IMO.)
/r/MensRights28/09/14 04:47 AM
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I think the point is that many people don't care about working men's suffering.
/r/MensRights28/09/14 03:50 AM
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I think the idea is [licenses] I know. You're not saying anything new. Again: That makes the system look legit. (To common people.) A small group of people will end up with more profits, thus having more interest in protecting their industry. Also, state "licenses" are primarily a bribery system designed to destroy competition.
/r/MensRights18/09/14 03:47 PM
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This tactic (regulation) doesn't ensure ending the practice, but could make things worse. "Licenses" could make the industry appear more legit to common people. (Who assume "licensed" means something other than anti-competitive bribery.) These profiteers will make massively more money. The few "licensed" people (with far less competition) will end up with more money to spend on making their industry sound legitimate.
/r/MensRights18/09/14 03:14 PM
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[more emotion] Again, none of that is an argument that anything I said is wrong. If you can't argue for your beliefs, they're probably wrong.
/r/TheRedPill15/09/14 06:47 PM
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[emotion] Emotion != a counter argument.
/r/TheRedPill15/09/14 06:23 PM
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And now that I used an analogy one to deconstruct your analogy You didn't. You just showed a minority use of a word. That doesn't counter what I said: that the individual defines their philosophy, not the mob. [various illiteracy] Read what I just wrote in italics.
/r/TheRedPill15/09/14 05:28 PM
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[confusion.] You don't understand what the topic is. I'm talking about someone defining another person's philosophy in a way they disagree with. (eg "You believe X, I heard it on Fox News." "No I don't.") Not a disagreement about the name of a color. But since you're so confused, I'll make this simple for you: All language is just a human construct, & is not physically right or wrong. It's simply popular among various groups.
/r/TheRedPill15/09/14 04:50 PM
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Now, in order to know which people are socialists, we need to [read historic socialist books/writings & see what early historic socialists meant] FTFY. Again, worker ownership of the means of production. New types of socialists could exist too, under some new language.
/r/TheRedPill15/09/14 04:35 PM
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There are lots of different definitions of socialism Yes. And if socialists are saying A, & Fox News is saying "socialists believe in B" that's irrelevant. Definitions of socialism by capitalist corporations are propaganda.
/r/TheRedPill15/09/14 04:34 PM
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If the word "gay" was defined as the concept of the devil by most people, No no. You're confused. If a gay man (a minority) said "gay" meant homosexuality, and the majority/mob said it meant a devil, the majority would not be right just because they were the majority. The gay individual defines his sexuality, beliefs, etc. Not some mob. There isn't this universal "correct" language. A church could define a gay man as whatever they wanted, & to gay people that would be irrelevant & incorrect. the…
/r/TheRedPill15/09/14 04:32 PM
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[no argument] Saying "the individual defines their own philosophy" != moving the goalpost. And you have not argued how. (Asserting some logical fallacy != arguing how it's true.) Hint: If I explained your philosophy as it was perceived worldwide, instead of what you actually believed, that'd be irrelevant to you. It wouldn't be accurate.
/r/TheRedPill15/09/14 02:32 PM
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The only correct definition of a word is what the majority of people use it to mean. Incorrect. If you were right then (eg) in 1940s if gays were defined as devils by the mob, then it'd be "correct" (according to you) to believe they're devils. That' silly. The truth is only the individual defines their own philosophy, so you must ask that individual what their beliefs are. platitudes like, I did not use a platitude. I was very specific: worker ownership of their means of production where the wo…
/r/TheRedPill15/09/14 01:45 PM
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Societies do not define an individual's philosophy. Only the individual defines their own philosophy. In other words, if you want to know what socialists believe, ask socialists.
/r/TheRedPill15/09/14 01:42 PM
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the word socialism has evolved No- that's propaganda by the capitalist media. Capitalist corporations do not define socialism. Socialists do. And actual socialists endorse worker ownership (eg co-ops) of the means of production. (Where workers keep the full product of their work.)
/r/TheRedPill15/09/14 01:04 PM
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Socialist policies You're misusing that word. "Socialism" isn't a capitalist welfare state. Socialism is worker ownership of the means of production, such as co-ops. eg: Engels: "The state will inevitably fall. Society, which will reorganise production on the basis of a free and equal association of the producers, will put the whole machinery of state where it will then belong: into the museum of antiquity, by the side of the spinning-wheel and the bronze axe.” -- marxists.org/archive/marx/works…
/r/TheRedPill15/09/14 12:53 PM
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Did you see my link? Three warrants a year, per household. (The police are hardcore predators in Ferguson.) Yes, there is an issue white crimes against white men not being picked up by the media, but it's not a competition. Blacks generally, & men generally, are treated with much injustice.
/r/MensRights12/09/14 05:46 PM
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I don't understand her 85% argument. It's complete nonsense, & her numbers aren't even correct. (She's cherry picking a statistic when many other studies say different.) eg: "Women ‘more likely to hit their partners’" -- http://www.thetimes.co.uk/tto/news/uk/article4128993.ece
/r/MensRights12/09/14 01:02 PM
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We do not have a race issue with America's police nearly as much as we have a gender one You wrote that very poorly, & it's a very questionable statement: Look at how blacks are treated in Ferguson- many blacks (eg reading this subreddit) might disagree. There is no reason to have a competition about which group (blacks or men generally) is treated worse by police.
/r/MensRights12/09/14 07:48 AM
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I believe you have to frame the debate using strong language. eg, "man hatred" should be said more. eg: if there's an accident killing civilians of both gender, & the news says "25 women died!" That's man hatred.
/r/MensRights11/09/14 07:12 AM
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I like your comic, but please don't assume socialism is the same as welfare. If we achieved socialism (worker ownership of the means of production, eg co-ops) most workers wouldn't need welfare. Arguably no state welfare would need to exist.
/r/MensRights05/09/14 09:36 PM
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The only crime where due process is shunned That's not quite true. Sadly, millions of people have been deprived of due process via psychiatrists & their prisons. eg: Consider the crime of making threats. If a lying woman tells psychiatrists that some male in her family made threats (and is thus allegedly dangerous, evil, etc) they can be kidnapped (sometimes for life) without any trial. (Absolutely zero evidence/conviction for any crime.)
/r/MensRights05/09/14 02:53 AM
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this seems to be a victory for the LBGT community. Yes. The title seems exaggerated.
/r/MensRights03/09/14 11:17 PM
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Did you put your list online? You could create a subreddit like /r/WomenMakingOnlineThreats & submit your stuff then everyone could see it (and submit stuff too.)
/r/MensRights03/09/14 09:18 PM
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Yes- egalitarianism is progressive. And I don't mean "democrat." Both political parties (owned by Wall St capitalists) are simply crooked liars. Neither is generally progressive.
/r/MensRights30/08/14 03:12 AM
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To be frank, you sound illiterate. Your rantings have absolutely nothing to do with anything I said. I trade money to you in exchange for a haircut; if you don't give me the haircut I wanted, I won't pay you. You can't say that I'm "taking away your labor" when you refuse to participate That's 100% irrelevant- it has nothing to do with anything I said. Similarly, "land" does not equal "labor" I didn't say land equalled labor. Thus, if the company wants to fire me and replace me with someone who …
/r/MensRights29/08/14 07:38 PM
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[complete ignorance] You keep assuming I'm endorsing some class of people who take the worker's production. That's capitalism, not socialism, anarchism, or communism. I'll make this very simple: Socialists/anarchists/communists want workers to keep the full product of their work. There is no one but the individual worker who owns their production. regardless of how many counter-arguments I send to you. You do not know what an argument is. A bunch of posts asserting what you want to believe != ar…
/r/MensRights28/08/14 03:50 AM
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[confusion about the body vs land] To own your body requires you to hurt no one: you only threaten self-defense towards people who use violence towards your body. In contrast, "owning land" is initiating violence towards people who haven't actually attacked you. Please stop spamming me.
/r/MensRights26/08/14 10:19 PM
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-"enforcing" a law that someone else cannot take your property You're still in denial. It's just your subjective opinion that you own such land. Imagine two people who believe they own the same land. So-called "ancaps" pretend it's not aggression when they enforce their opinions of owning the land/earth, but it's easy to debunk: Example: imagine you & another person both believe you own the same land. You step one toe on that land & the guy shoots/murders you. Q. Was that "self defense?" A. No. …
/r/MensRights26/08/14 07:39 PM
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[illiteracy] I said when a person has a good case, but when it's complicated. Please stop spamming me with your illiterate rantings.
/r/MensRights26/08/14 01:01 AM
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Again, people often won't go to the state if they can't afford a good lawyer. If they understand the system is rigged and based on bigotry & privilege they realize they'll often be treated like dirt without any expensive lawyer. I'll make this simple for you: If you caught 100% of an event on video tape, even if you're poor, you can go to the state & likely get a wanted result. But if you have a more complicated case, even if it's very good, you'll realize that you'll often be treated like dirt …
/r/MensRights25/08/14 08:30 PM
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[confusion] I didn't mention evidence surfacing to others. I said in both situations the government does not see the evidence immediately, but it often still exists.
/r/MensRights25/08/14 07:28 PM
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[evidence may not surface to the government until later] That's exactly the same as many normal crimes. Please stop spamming me.
/r/MensRights25/08/14 07:00 PM
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[illiteracy] You're just assuming the person (eg a poor black man reporting a false rape accusation) has a fair chance without money. That's silly. Please stop spamming.
/r/MensRights25/08/14 06:59 PM
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There is not statute of limitations for murder because [the evidence still exists later, just like many normal crimes] FTFY. The simple truth is the defendant lost no rights because there's no "statute of limitations." Deal with it.
/r/MensRights25/08/14 04:25 PM
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I answered this already: /r/MensRights/comments/2egfo9/democratic_nominee_for_governor_of_texas_wendy/cjzotwt you don't need money to report a crime. Tell that to a poor man (esp a black one) who got wrongly accused of rape. If he (without any money) reported that a woman lied about rape, he's almost always going to be assumed the bad guy.
/r/MensRights25/08/14 02:22 PM
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It is not "violence" for capitalist to own impersonal means of production like factories That's not an argument, it's an assertion. I argued (eg) that land ownership requires violence because it requires trespassing laws (and similar threats/force) to enforce. ie, the evidence that land ownership is enforced violently is trespassing laws & similar use of threats/force to enforce someone's opinion that they own some land. You have no counter argument. Please stop spamming.
/r/MensRights25/08/14 02:15 PM
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You were originally claiming the statute of limitations was to [help enforce the real purpose of the rich's courts, to serve the rich, not poor people who recover & save for a lawyer.] FTFY. A poor black man is an example of that, to help you see reality. Deal with it.
/r/MensRights25/08/14 02:13 PM
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no statute of limitations... reduces the rights of the defendant. Then explain murder: in many murder cases the so-called "statute of limitations" is void. You would assume that the defendant thus loses their rights eg if they were prosecuted 10 years later instead of 6. That's not logical.
/r/MensRights25/08/14 06:07 AM
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you don't need money to report a crime. Tell that to a poor man (esp a black one) who got wrongly accused of rape. If he (without any money) reported that a woman lied about rape, he's almost always going to be assumed the bad guy. I explain reality, it's your job to deal with it.
/r/MensRights25/08/14 03:50 AM
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The fact you want to increase one party's rights at the expense of another's I didn't say anything like that. Please improve your reading/comprehension. I said the "justice system" is not a justice system, but a system for the wealthy to use violently thugs to enforce their opinions.
/r/MensRights25/08/14 03:46 AM
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That's not an argument to subvert due process protections of defendants. How dishonest. I'm not against due process protections of defendants- I'm for such & saying the current system doesn't provide such. The "justice system" is an Orwellian fiction for what's really just violent thuggery by the powerful (eg big corporations) vs the weak. Adding the word "justice" is just a way to fool the masses.
/r/MensRights25/08/14 03:32 AM
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Further, it is not implied. I disagree. and addressing to the very content I disagree. You're spamming me.
/r/MensRights25/08/14 03:29 AM
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You don't have to pay for a lawyer for criminal offenses. Again: if you don't pay you won't be fairly represented compared to wealthy people and many "public defenders" are not defending their client with any effort at all.
/r/MensRights25/08/14 03:24 AM
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Again, I consider the fallacy to include implying someone was wrong & basing it on personal attacks. Even if you disagree, it's still a logical fallacy to imply someone is wrong because of personal attacks. Please stop spamming me.
/r/MensRights25/08/14 03:23 AM
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[reading problems.] I did not say I was a Marxist. But I have argued the working class is violently exploited. I have explained this repeatedly, eg how workers are violently deprived of land & natural resources (which they need to survive) unless they surrender part of their production to the gunman/capitalist. To be frank, your post is not an argument for or against anything & you are trying to make this personal (about me & you.) Such is how people avoid debate when they have lost. Btw, obviou…
/r/MensRights25/08/14 02:25 AM
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You're looking at the outliers. Of course rich people will get off and the poor get fucked. It's not some rare thing, it's how the system normally works. For the average person, though, our criminal court system is fantastic. I completely disagree.
/r/MensRights25/08/14 02:15 AM
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A lack of statute of limitations doesn't solve the problem of needing to afford a lawyer. Honestly, you are not reading seriously at all. I'll explain this again: A poor person (victim of a crime) can rebuild their life & save up money to get a lawyer, but then find they can do nothing. You are honestly not even paying attention to what other people are saying.
/r/MensRights25/08/14 01:18 AM
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[reposting] I answered this repeatedly: "Again, if you imply someone is wrong & your only 'reasoning' is attacks to the person, that's a logical fallacy. I consider it (obviously) the ad hominem logical fallacy. If you don't, it's still obviously a logical fallacy to imply someone is wrong because of personal attacks."
/r/MensRights25/08/14 01:15 AM
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An ad hominem fallacy is when one claims that an argument is incorrect Again, if you imply someone is wrong & your only "reasoning" is attacks to the person, that's a logical fallacy. I consider it (obviously) the ad hominem logical fallacy. If you don't, it's still obviously a logical fallacy to imply someone is wrong because of personal attacks.
/r/MensRights25/08/14 01:13 AM
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[emotion] Emotion != a counter argument.
/r/MensRights25/08/14 01:11 AM
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You don't have a lawyer in a criminal prosecution That's silly. You can hire lawyers for criminal trials: https://www.google.com/search?q=lawyer+criminal+trial Under different language (eg a "public defender") that's still a lawyer. "In the United States and Brazil, a public defender is a lawyer appointed to represent people" -- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Public_defender Except that the truth is that victims forget details. And here's a source That assertion is not scientific. Really people (w…
/r/MensRights24/08/14 11:12 PM
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Criminal courts? Not at all. You're just asserting what you want to believe. The truth is even in criminal courts the wealthy have great lawyers (or even teams of them) while the poor often are stuck with essentially no competent lawyer. A public defender (as you can see reading people's stories about them) often does not give one second of effort doing anything. Many "public defenders" are essentially part of the prosecution & simply try to talk innocent victims into pleading guilty, instead of…
/r/MensRights24/08/14 10:55 PM
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[Still talking about me.] That's your problem. The topic is (among things) whether the "justice system" serves the wealthy (eg giant corporations with teams of lawyers.) You seem to deny that the wealthy people buy (essentially bribery) extreme advantage in the "justice system." But you can't argue why your belief is true. You just talk about me.
/r/MensRights24/08/14 10:52 PM
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where a woman accuses a man is an exception It's not some lone exception- how the "justice system" works generally is a pay-to-play class system where wealthy people (with teams of lawyers) essentially bribe/buy the state to enforce their opinions.
/r/MensRights24/08/14 10:45 PM
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Even if we pretend that your post wasn't simply ad hominem, your entire post is simply personal attacks. (Not arguing what's true.) ie, you are attacking my person to imply I'm wrong. Such is a logical fallacy, period.
/r/MensRights24/08/14 10:41 PM
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[misunderstanding.] If you are implying I'm wrong without an actual argument, & instead you only offer attacks towards my character, that is the ad hominem logical fallacy.
/r/MensRights24/08/14 10:07 PM
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[the ad hominem logical fallacy] I am not a "SJW." You can not argue how my assertion (that state "justice systems" exist to serve the wealthy & privileged) is wrong, so you turn to personal attacks. The whole government exists to serve the upper class & oppress the weak. It's "might makes right." That is not real justice.
/r/MensRights24/08/14 10:04 PM
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[ad hominem logical fallacy] That != an argument that I'm wrong.
/r/MensRights24/08/14 10:00 PM
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it was set up to give the defendant every benefit possible to make sure nobody innocent gets incarcerated. That's one of the most incorrect things ever said. Consider practically everyone falsely accused of rape. Or other crimes where a male is assumed guilty. The "justice system" (in reality) exists to serve the ruling class & enforce their opinions. They claim it's "justice," but it's not. It's just the opinion of the attacker. (Aka "might makes right.")
/r/MensRights24/08/14 09:57 PM
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[emotion] Emotion != an argument that I'm wrong.
/r/MensRights24/08/14 09:56 PM
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[dishonesty] I'm obviously not saying memories generally don't fade. I'm saying their memories of their extreme suffering & injustice remain. To be frank, as a person has time to think about what happened (and study such) their understanding of what happened can increase. psychology course Taking a class in subjective opinion is irrelevant.
/r/MensRights24/08/14 09:53 PM
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You're linking to propaganda. The alleged reasoning for the "statute of limitations" laws is not accurate. To see the truth, we must admit the "justice system" is not a justice system. Their rulings are more likely the point of view of the wealthy & privileged. (eg a woman pretending to cry.) Or corporations with huge teams of lawyers. The "statute of limitations" helps cover up that poor people (ie crime victims) often can not get decent legal representation at the time of the crime. They're bl…
/r/MensRights24/08/14 09:50 PM
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A main reason behind this concept Those reasons are not accurate. To understand, imagine you are poor & falsely accused of rape. You save up money & can finally get a good lawyer, but now you can no longer do anything. The truth is endless millions of crime victims remember everything. Their memories do not fade. The truth is the "justice system" is about money & privilege. The wealthier (or more privileged) person, such as a woman fake-crying tends to win. A poor crime victim often can't get a …
/r/MensRights24/08/14 09:42 PM
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[silliness & illiteracy] You've made a bunch of assertions (again) but (still) without any evidence. ie you do not understand argument. So where is your argument then? For which assertion? I'll re-explain, yet again. If you're still ranting about what counts as violence, I'll explain yet again. Again, I am not simply speaking of the word "force." You can ignore that if you want. Gunman using threats to enforce the attacker's property opinion simply counts as "violence" as normally understood.
/r/MensRights22/08/14 05:37 PM
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[confusion] An argument is a form of this: "X is true because of Y evidence/reasoning." Just asserting things (without evidence/reasoning) is not attempting to persuade anyone. It's not argument. (It's spam.) Similarly, your entire post here is without a single counter-argument. It's just spam. Yes, you are making references to my previous debunks, but then (afterwards) making no actual counter arguments. You do not understand what an argument is. , you have attempted to pass along an assumed de…
/r/MensRights21/08/14 04:47 PM
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-I gave you detailed, well-argued meaty responses, You gave me no arguments at all. and you don't even have the decency to respond with any argument lasting longer An argument does not have to be long. You have provided no counter-argument. Period. Again: you can tell ownership of the land/earth is enforced violently because it's enforced via trespassing laws. Deal with it. [trying to attack my philosophy by attacking Marx.] I'm not a Marxist. I never said I was. [Attacking Marx by saying he was…
/r/MensRights20/08/14 04:50 PM
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[more assertions] Sigh. Assertions != arguments. For example: seem to think that by using the term violence incorrectly This is just another assertion. Really: You can tell that land/resource ownership is enforced violently because of trespassing laws. Obviously you are as wrong as a feminist who label looking as "eye rape" Ad hominem != an argument. Yes, if a worker owns more resources then his expenses are less, but greater profit for the worker does not justify theft. You're simply asserting …
/r/MensRights20/08/14 04:16 PM
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[no arguments.] To summarize your post, you simply reworded assertions. You provided no arguments for your assertions. They come to an agreement and the owner commissions the use of the human capital Rewording things != a counter argument. The truth is (as I explained) the worker is submitting to a violent attacker's exploitative conditions. out of which more workers get hired Again, more victims of violence submitting to an attacker. I'll make this simple: If those workers had the land & it's n…
/r/MensRights20/08/14 12:01 PM
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No one fabricated that Tree. Workers cut down the tree. Workers milled it into lumber. Workers assembled the lumber into a house. Claiming ownership of the tree and a share of the value added based on that ownership is the exploitation your talking about. That's included. Thank you for your effort at reading my post. or even the private ownership of Capital. Marx defined private property is property which exploits. He supported personal property, co-ops, etc. ie socialists do want to get rid of …
/r/MensRights19/08/14 09:57 PM
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[machines] were created by other capitalist created factories. Incorrect. Workers created the machines. I'll try to make this simple. All new wealth is created by work/workers. No new wealth is created by sitting there doing nothing. No new wealth is created by using mercenaries to exploit workers, & steal/redistribute the product of their work. Such a worker's co-op would have to develop a new product or shut down. What about the hundreds of millions in loans they owe? This isn't serious. You c…
/r/MensRights19/08/14 06:23 PM
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in this society we have no capitalists, and therefore no factories and no machines Incorrect. Worker's co-ops (and non-exploitative businesses) have factories and machines. The difference is they are owned by the workers, & not owned to violently exploit others. I don't think you're seriously trying to understand this. And what happens when no one wants that product and the thousand or so laborers are now all making something no one wants to buy? Such a worker's co-op would have to develop a new…
/r/MensRights19/08/14 05:36 PM
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Windows has never had a monopoly. That's not correct. Because of microsoft's bad code (possibly purposely bad) many programs written in free languages (eg C) did not work on other operating systems. Programmers had to customize code specifically for windows, & this made it expensive to create (and update) versions for other operating systems. but it offered Office, which was and still is the best in its class. That's just your subjective opinion, & I disagree. using his [very rich parent's money…
/r/MensRights19/08/14 05:28 PM
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pre-medieval society? There is nothing "medieval" about workers not being violently exploited. Such (non-exploitation) includes worker's co-ops. Marx endorsed such. Co-ops are worker ownership of the means of production (socialism) where workers own the full product of their work. With land (and liberty) they could: build businesses, homes, etc. Not without capitalists they can't. Incorrect. 100% of the value capitalists violently steal from workers, without exploitation, would belong to the wor…
/r/MensRights19/08/14 05:20 PM
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And IE is free I was obviously talking about windows. I was talking about IE as an example. using his [very rich parent's money] This.
/r/MensRights19/08/14 05:17 PM
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but not by following in Bill Gates' footsteps That was a crooked monopoly. Similarly, imagine if practically all websites only worked with IE. So instead of a competitive market, the guys owning IE made 50 billion. That's very parasitic, & no one should follow such footsteps.
/r/MensRights19/08/14 04:58 PM
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is owner of others' production because he threatens them with death if they do not produce You're simply asserting that the worker is not violently exploited, but I already explained they are. The attacker does not have to claim to be a "master." "The capitalist violently deprives workers of the land & it's natural resources (which workers need to survive) unless they surrender part of their production to their attacker." -- me Asserting the worker is not exploited != a counter argument. so long…
/r/MensRights19/08/14 04:46 PM
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[more rants about Marx] Again, Marx endorsed the individual worker owning the product of their work, not the persons violently exploiting them. The truth is many poor people are violently deprived of the land & natural resources, generally by the very rich. ie, they're oppressed. With land (and liberty) they could: build businesses, homes, etc. But without such, they live oppressed by whoever controls such land & it's resources. And forced to submit to exploitative conditions. (eg surrendering p…
/r/MensRights19/08/14 03:22 PM
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[baseless attacks on Marx] You are not understanding capitalist exploitation, or Marxism. Marx said the individual worker should own the product of their work. This is at odds vs (eg) Wall St style capitalists owning practically everything to exploit the public. In capitalism, the gunman/capitalist violently exploits workers to keep the product of the worker's work. eg: The capitalist violently deprives workers of the land & it's natural resources (which workers need to survive) unless they surr…
/r/MensRights19/08/14 03:19 PM
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[it's "mental illness"] if it's causing significant problems in the person's life That's subjective opinion. and problems people experience are very real. I didn't say people didn't face problems in real life. I'm explaining such problems/suffering are not the mind being infected by illness, cancer, etc. There's no "mind cancer" or "mind illness." And Frances personally helped create such "mind illnesses" which he now explains are all "made up" "constructs." I'll make this simple. Creating a lab…
/r/MensRights18/08/14 02:27 PM
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But the symptoms of mental illnesses Like this? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transvestic_fetishism Watching transgender porn is not a "symptom." What you're doing is simply assuming there's an illness, & assuming that various alleged behaviors/feelings are "symptoms."
/r/MensRights17/08/14 07:00 AM
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The only actual libertarians are anarchists. I'm an anarchist.
/r/MensRights17/08/14 06:58 AM
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mentally ill Please remember such is just a label. (ie, a purely language construct for alleged behaviors/feelings.) eg: "Mental disorders don't really live ‘out there’ waiting to be explained. They are constructs we have made up - and often not very compelling ones." -- Allen Frances, DSM-IV chief in “DSM in Philosophyland: Curiouser and Curiouser” in AAP&P Bulletin vol 17, No 2 of 2010 “DSM diagnoses are based on a consensus about clusters of clinical symptoms, not any objective laboratory mea…
/r/MensRights16/08/14 05:21 PM
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Can you explain why you get to be the authority Arguments are based on their evidence/reasoning, not who said them. Deal with it. I am literally saying Asserting. Asserting != an argument.
/r/MensRights14/08/14 08:02 PM
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if you're not in the Black community, you don't get to say whether or not someone is oppressed based on gender Do you read this stuff outloud? That's silly. You should be embarrassed. since you're not aware Your assumption is not an argument that anything I said was wrong. If you aren't from another country outside of the US in any of the Western continents then you don't get to make the call You're not serious. Please stop trolling.
/r/MensRights14/08/14 07:53 PM
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You seem to have misunderstood. I said blacks were oppressed. ie, a black woman (in the West) would be oppressed because of her race, not her gender. [personal attacks] None of that is an argument. It's very strange that you'd consider Russia to be "the West." In cold war style language Russia would not be. Historically wealthy (eg with slavery & serfdom) nations tend to be "the West." eg the USA, UK, etc.
/r/MensRights14/08/14 06:35 PM
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I meant no person in the West is oppressed because they're a woman. A black woman generally would suffer from racial oppression, not gender oppression.
/r/MensRights14/08/14 06:14 PM
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[assertion] Your assertion is not even close to a complete argument. First, let's think about what a "state" is. It's this: A state violently controls/governs people on land the attacker does not personally use. And if we replace statism is with a society of egalitarian non-exploitative property (eg personally used property) we are not governed.
/r/MensRights14/08/14 04:22 PM
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[misinformation about what communism is] Again, a stateless society (communism) is not the same as a state of people claiming they seek communism. Practically everything you've heard about "communists" in the West is wrong: eg: YSK that Stalin's state sent emergency food during their famine, repeatedly. They lowered food taken/taxed, repeatedly. That is not done when someone is trying to purposely starve someone. YSK Pol Pot & his VP equivalent said "We are not communists" & they changed sides (…
/r/MensRights14/08/14 02:24 PM
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I've been posting in /r/mensrights for years before I noticed DBryon.
/r/MensRights14/08/14 01:14 PM
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If you came to /r/MensRights to insult & stereotype our black allies, you're on the wrong forum. they are no allies to real men. You're far worse than I judged you to be. I've had many jobs & was robbed/taxed by the rich's government.
/r/MensRights14/08/14 08:35 AM
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If you came to /r/MensRights to insult & stereotype our black allies, you're on the wrong forum.
/r/MensRights14/08/14 08:22 AM
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[confusion] All new wealth comes from work/workers. I endorsed such workers keeping the full product of their work. The violent parasitic capitalist creates no value- they steal & redistribute value.
/r/MensRights14/08/14 08:15 AM
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no white male oppressor boogeyman has ever stepped foot in. Totally wrong. All of Africa was conquered & divided by whites & whites murdered millions of such people. In South Africa the whites took the very best farm land & left the natives with the worst land. That isn't to say there wasn't blame on both sides. You can say "one culture was less advanced." But none of those people ever started world wars, nuked anyone, etc. There are negative aspects of everyone's ancestors. IQ scores in the ran…
/r/MensRights14/08/14 07:58 AM
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one person isnt going to change an entire culture overnight. This isn't purely about the culture of black men- it's also about people violently exploiting workers generally, which affects the very poor (eg more blacks) more often.
/r/MensRights14/08/14 07:26 AM
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There's many reasons. Consider black areas of the USA: The areas poor people move to tend to have worse economies. Practically all the wealth from Southern slavery remained in white hands. eg: Northern banks like Chase which bankrolled slavery, but never paid reparations (ie, when former slaves were alive.) The best land, & hidden wealth, etc remained in white hands. Control of the state government remained white. In the South especially, post-slavery racist governments made it almost illegal to…
/r/MensRights14/08/14 07:21 AM
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There's a big difference. Blacks face real bigotry & oppression. Feminists often pretend Western women are oppressed when that's practically never true.
/r/MensRights14/08/14 07:00 AM
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Well said. It's incredibly worse here in the USA.
/r/MensRights11/08/14 02:20 PM
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Please don't blame the left for the capitalist democratic party. MSNBC is capitalist. Actual leftists (socialists) believe in worker ownership of the means of production, eg co-ops.
/r/MensRights09/08/14 02:32 PM
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There's nothing literally wrong with "social justice." There's just bigots who use the term. Imagine if the Klan used the phrase "Fairness For All." They'd ruin the term, even though there's nothing wrong with fairness.
/r/MensRights09/08/14 02:29 PM
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is remarkably SJW-free. I've seen the opposite. Your own study shows a big violent powerful group (the APA, which is state enforced) is full of sexists. In other words the problem isn't "psychologists" generally (people who simply study the mind.) The problem is state/government bureaucrats (aka psychiatry) which is full of sexists.
/r/MensRights30/07/14 05:57 PM
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It's not really the sort of content they like. They don't want to hear the truth. They'd probably either downvote it or [remove] it. But that is the type of content that should be an a psychology forum.
/r/MensRights30/07/14 05:28 PM
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Great find. Maybe submit this to /r/psychology?
/r/MensRights30/07/14 05:21 PM
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Or it'll likely just vanish. Large groups of trolls control many controversial pages. They have no interest in debate, but just want to push their view. Thus, while wiki is normally great, it's very controversial pages can be full of spin.
/r/MensRights22/07/14 11:38 AM
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You're still interpreting such. Just from a glance: He isn't technically saying he's an antisemite. Such statements could be sarcasm. This is simple: people throw around "antisemite" a lot, unfairly. So again, please provide evidence (eg quotes) when calling someone an anti-semite. Please don't spam me further.
/r/MensRights19/07/14 11:11 PM
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antisemitic Please quote someone when using that insult. Some of his quotes: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alain_Soral#Accusations_of_anti-Semitism People can judge for themselves. Personally I think he's said some truly stupid things.
/r/MensRights19/07/14 10:37 PM
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The level of denial Starting posts with insults != an argument. Given human nature Assuming that "human nature" fits your political views is a common logical fallacy. The truth is human nature changes, & has changed massively & repeatedly. Human nature will intervene. Some humans will want to become the state Think of slavery. Some people used to want slavery, & smarter people practiced self-defense (and defense of the innocent) and killed such attackers. Again: so-called "human nature" changes.…
/r/MensRights18/07/14 10:06 AM
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marxists claim the state is a social construct (not an organization of human individuals) That's not true. No where, did Marx say "The state is not an organization of individuals." The state is both that and a social construct. Imagine a violent group of people. The idea that they're "the government" (as opposed to just a violent mob) is a social construct. Like any other organism, [the state] seeks to increase, not decrease. No one is saying statists will willingly go away. If they're violently…
/r/MensRights17/07/14 10:36 PM
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[centrally controlled = communism] That's not correct. Communism is defined by Marx/Engels as stateless, & comes after the state "withers away & dies." Lenin: "The state will be able to wither away completely when society adopts the rule: 'From each according to his ability, to each according to his needs'" -- http://www.marxists.org/archive/lenin/works/1917/staterev/ch05.htm#s4 Engels: "The state will inevitably fall. Society, which will reorganise production on the basis of a free and equal as…
/r/MensRights17/07/14 06:32 PM
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That's no excuse to insult actual leftists, blaming them for the capitalist owned democratic party.
/r/MensRights17/07/14 06:18 PM
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One political party Then blame "democrats", not "the left." The truth is both US parties are right-wing capitalists & not leftists. Actual leftists (socialists) believe in worker ownership of the means of production. eg worker's co-ops.
/r/MensRights17/07/14 06:01 PM
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economic definition There isn't an "economic definition." I'm using the same definition you mentioned. I'm going beyond that & actually explaining what "private" ownership means. This: the means of production are privately owned Refers to absentee ownership. And thus, as I explained already, the workers are violently deprived of the land & means of production unless they submit to their attacker's exploitative conditions. I'm going to assume you are a Marxist Nope. and [therefore] ask that you k…
/r/MensRights17/07/14 05:56 PM
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I think capitalism is the best-worst system of exchange of value Capitalism isn't some vague system of trade/value. It's a specific property system where the capitalist class owns practically all the land & natural resources, & thus the means of production. (To exploit workers.)
/r/MensRights17/07/14 04:54 PM
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I would argue what we call capitalism Please stop that here. People don't agree what capitalism is. To leftists it's essentially using violence/property to exploit workers. eg, violently depriving workers of the land & natural resources (which they need to survive) unless they submit to labor exploitation. (Surrendering part of their production to their attacker.)
/r/MensRights17/07/14 04:17 PM
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Indeed. It's standard politics to blame various things on the entire "left", which is like blaming Glen Beck (or Palin etc) on the whole "right." Really, the "left" includes all sorts of people. If such posts blamed "democrats" that would be generally more reasonable.
/r/MensRights17/07/14 03:17 PM
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but then it goes on to (incorrectly) state that women have been meaningless in history. I did not say that. I'm always amazed how many times I have to tell people I didn't say what they imagined I'd said. The image above mentioned (eg) sciences. Women (then) could not easily contribute to such for the reasons I stated.
/r/MensRights16/07/14 09:13 AM
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There were women in 1800s Europe who contributed to science You misread. I didn't say no women managed to contribute. I said: "women [then] couldn't contribute easily because of actual sexism, a lack of good birth control, & being married very young"
/r/MensRights16/07/14 07:58 AM
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Please remember not all MRHAs are men. This type of generalization is written in an unfair way, & could be offensive. Consider that in some cultures (eg 1800s europe) women couldn't contribute easily because of: actual sexism, a lack of good birth control, etc. being married very young.
/r/MensRights15/07/14 07:33 PM
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while lefties can watch any other station That's 100% wrong. All the news corporations are capitalists & don't support worker ownership of their means of production. (eg worker's co-ops.) Such (worker ownership) abolishes the capitalist class. Capitalism is a specific property system, not some vague quest for freedom. ie, what capitalism is actually about is violently enforcing absentee ownership of practically all the land & natural resources (and thus the means of production) to capitalists. (…
/r/MensRights11/07/14 04:02 PM
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I'm an atheist. And you've provided no counter argument to what I've explained: Actual science is based upon physical experiment (ie physical units of measurement) and thus accuracy & repeatability. Psychiatric insults/labels are not based on that. None of them. They "diagnose" people based purely on subjective opinion.
/r/MensRights09/07/14 02:44 AM
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you realize that these people do have a problem. Hint: "Have a problem" is just 1) subjective opinion, & 2) vague-speak which is not even close to science. Frankly those of us who believe in evidence & liberty view the attacker/psychiatrist as the one "with a problem." To see how this is just subjective opinion, consider this: Example: Consider if a psychiatrist kidnaps a child & violently ties it to a torture-style bed then beats/suffocates the child while forcing pills down their throat. Just …
/r/MensRights08/07/14 03:04 PM
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This isn't about "bad apples." Psychiatry itself is based upon making up labels/constructs for alleged behaviors (and feelings) & then assuming such are physical illnesses. But they're simply not. A "mental illness" is just a made-up construct/label for an alleged behavior/feeling/etc. “DSM diagnoses are based on a consensus about clusters of clinical symptoms, not any objective laboratory measure.” -- Thomas Insel (Director of the NIMH) @ psychologytoday.com "Mental disorders don't really live …
/r/MensRights08/07/14 01:14 PM
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[emotion] Emotion != a counter argument.
/r/MensRights08/07/14 12:19 PM
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It is about a woman that killed her child Again, then convict her of murder. Give her a life sentence if you want. There is no need for psychiatrists. Do you remember the rich kid who killed four people & wasn't punished because psychiatrists said he was so privileged with "affluenza" that he didn't understand his actions? That's just quackery, & will not make any situation better. Psychiatrists are not scientists- they have no physical tools/measurements (eg physical units of measurement) & thu…
/r/MensRights08/07/14 07:04 AM
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This woman DID kill somebody and therefore she [should be arrested for murder.] Fixed that for you. There is no reason for psychiatrists (who have no physical measurements & thus no accuracy or repeatability) to have any violent control of anyone's lives. they would kill their own child That's changing the topic. I said someone accused of suicide. You then start talking about murderers. As things get better [according to psychiatrists], Problem: that's all subjective opinion.
/r/MensRights08/07/14 03:22 AM
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she should be under psychiatric care If your position is this: "Anyone accused of being suicidal should lose their human rights" That's totally nonsense. Psychiatric "care" is a violent for-profit state industry, which exists despite lacking any evidence/conviction of a crime. The truth is: People almost always can't predict which person will kill others. Being suicidal is generally not a sign that a person will kill others. ie, there's risk in life that no one can eliminate. And growing the psy…
/r/MensRights08/07/14 01:34 AM
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I don't like how you put "OUTRAGE: " at the beginning of this link. Instead, this: "Discrimination: [words]" Would fit better.
/r/MensRights04/07/14 07:24 PM
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YSK: "polygraph tests" aren't better than a coinflip. "polygraph is 'little better than could be obtained by the toss of a coin,' that is, 50 percent." -- http://fas.org/sgp/othergov/polygraph/scheffer.html To be frank, you did not "fail" a polygraph. You can not: it's not a real test.
/r/MensRights01/07/14 04:56 AM
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[SCOFFers, MEGASMS] Probably too long. When I see people who appear to hate men I simply call them "man haters." It's both simple & true. we aren't looking at people interested in rights at all, but shaming and control. They don't care about helping people. There's a lot of man-haters like that. I don't think it's like a fetish- I think they really believe in the silly stereotype that all women are victims & all men are oppressors.
/r/MensRights04/06/14 11:58 PM
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with documented events. There's no camera/etc evidence posted here. There's just accusations. This whole system (people with lawyers making accusations without proof) is terrible & I don't think we should be advocating it. The morally right thing to do is to say the whole system is a fraud, a joke, etc. And to demand it be dismantled.
/r/MensRights10/05/14 05:35 AM
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In the US the mother can be literally mentally ill In divorce women can accuse men of this too to get custody. But really such accusations (eg "internet addiction disorder") are not actual evidence of any hurtful action or crime. Frankly the whole "mind/thought illness" system exists so the rich's government can violently control the public & our access to which drugs we put in our own bodies. Your post is just not egalitarian. Some of us want an egalitarian system where men & women have equal a…
/r/MensRights10/05/14 05:10 AM
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Edit, much? The comment is not edited. You can tell because there is no *.
/r/MensRights10/05/14 04:59 AM
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I originally misread. That doesn't change anything. You can't assume a single accident/fall/etc is purposeful. Accidents happen.
/r/MensRights10/05/14 04:55 AM
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All of that is either baseless or unreasonable. The woman's own family said she's unfit to parent. Many parents (eg fundie parents of gay kids, atheists, etc) hate their kids & would slander them. Such is not actual evidence that the accused did anything wrong. [various minor accusations] You assert (without any camera evidence) that their apartment was dirty. An apartment being imperfect is not a huge deal. Very furry dogs can make unbelievable amounts of fur. This is no excuse for state violen…
/r/MensRights10/05/14 04:52 AM
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and the abuse thing You haven't mentioned any abuse. You said the mother baby had a seizure & accident. That != abuse.
/r/MensRights10/05/14 04:21 AM
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How ironic. [she had a seizure & thus should have the state violently take her kids.] That's actual trolling. And saying that someone should lose custody because they hit their head in an accident is actual trolling. People like you embarrass the MRM. The egalitarian thing to do is have men & women have equal access to their kids. People shouldn't be trying to destroy their ex with rumors/lawyers/etc.
/r/MensRights10/05/14 04:17 AM
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He has documented many things.. You must not have mentioned them. The question is: Q. Do you have any real recorded abuse? Because a young 21 year old woman being out of work is not abuse. Again, she could find work tomorrow.
/r/MensRights10/05/14 04:08 AM
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the neglect and abuse. This is silly. All he said is that a 21 year old woman currently doesn't have a job. She could find a job next week. Or if she runs out of money/help, just get welfare. This thread reminds me of radical feminists. Instead of saying: "Yeah it's unfair & women shouldn't get automatic custody." You're trying to denigrate some innocent person.
/r/MensRights10/05/14 04:06 AM
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No money Oh please. Her parents are apparently helping her. And: She might find work tomorrow. She could just get on welfare. She's young & could probably just get married. And in a freer society should wouldn't have to beg the rich for access to work- she could just claim land & start a business.
/r/MensRights10/05/14 04:01 AM
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So a woman in community college with no job, no money and living on her moms The fact that someone is struggling in a bad economy does not make them unfit. She could find work tomorrow. She could simply be looking for work. The truth is with more people than jobs, even if everyone was Einstein, there'll be unemployment. But what workers face is worse- under the current regime the very few own practically all the land. (The public is violently deprived of what they need to survive- land & natural…
/r/MensRights10/05/14 02:13 AM
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about liberals. Stop doing this. Similarly, if the KKK endorses some conservative party you don't say "this bugs me about conservatives." We recognize the normal guy can't be blamed for extremists who use similar language. By the way, I do not consider these man-haters to be leftists/liberals. They are sexists/bigots & only disguise themselves as leftists.
/r/PussyPass07/04/14 06:12 PM
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Women are outpacing men in [bureaucratic] education ^^ This is how people should say this. "I never let schooling interfere with my education." --Mark Twain
/r/MensRights07/01/14 03:42 PM
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I also had to downvote this for the stupid "left vs right" title. Advocacy for fairer policies relating to men's human rights is bigger than your silly left vs right politics.
/r/MensRights23/10/13 12:18 PM
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Great. But please say "formal educational achievement." Men who skip the college system can simply educate themselves. (ie, for all knowledge that's learned via language. Not always hands on stuff)
/r/MensRights02/10/13 05:46 PM
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She kept yelling "scum" at the guy, I've never seen that one. Got a link?
/r/MensRights29/09/13 09:58 AM
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Leftist That's unfair language. Calling somethingawful users "leftists" is like calling the W.B.C. "conservatives." ie, it unfairly denigrates the bigger group by comparing them to smaller hateful extremists.
/r/MensRights10/09/13 07:53 AM
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[another post without a counter argument.] Again: I argued how capitalism is violent exploitation. I didn't say "it's simply unfair."
/r/MensRights19/08/13 02:30 AM
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[more ad hominem] That's also not a counter argument. Hint: to make a counter-argument simply quote something I said (not out of context) and explain how it's wrong.
/r/MensRights18/08/13 09:26 PM
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[workers could live in the woods!] /sigh. That's both false and not a counter argument. The "woods" are either the capitalist's property or the capitalist's state property. ie, people who try to live in the woods (eg build a cabin, etc) are eventually arrested. I made an argument about how capitalism is violent exploitation. (ie, workers who want to build a home & business can't because they are violently deprived of land/etc unless they submit to the exploitative conditions of the capitalist cl…
/r/MensRights18/08/13 09:23 PM
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[changing the topic to Marx + the ad hominem logical fallacy] That's not a counter argument. So do you think that providing for yourself That's also changing the topic. I said workers are violently deprived of the land & natural resources (ie, their right to life is removed) unless they submit to exploitation. eg, sometimes a person who wants to build a home, business, etc can't if they are violently deprived of the land. (Deprived of land unless they submit to exploitation.) Thus same person su…
/r/MensRights17/08/13 05:04 AM
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the only people who owned slaves in America were wealthy white[s] That's not correct. Black people (once freed in the south) sometimes would "buy slaves," however some of this may have been "buying" friends/family to get them out of slavery. Others (according to black historians) were doing it for their personal profit. myth: white people were the beneficiaries of slavery... rather than wealthy white people... [which] deflects the blame to all white people [instead of] wealthy white people A gre…
/r/MensRights16/08/13 04:41 AM
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. People have a choice to sell your labor Actually, capitalism is enforced violently & involuntarily: the capitalist's ownership of the earth is enforced by the capitalist state. eg trespassing laws. Basically, capitalists violently deprive workers of land & natural resources (removing a worker's right to life) unless workers submit to exploitation.
/r/MensRights16/08/13 04:34 AM
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Did you at least call the employer and try to get them to rehire the father? Maybe having a woman do it (if you know one you trust) would be more convincing to modern (very male hating) society.
/r/MensRights19/07/13 03:02 AM
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liberal study This is unfair language. Really, the corporate employees in the democratic part != the left. Anarchists/socialists/etc (supporting worker owned industry) should not be grouped together with everything you consider feminist. Here's the World Socialist Web Site: "Feminist opinion... has become one of the means of legitimizing the suppression of nonconformists and political dissidents, and of changing the subject from the great social issues, above all, class oppression and social ine…
/r/MensRights09/07/13 07:52 AM
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All you have to do to fix the imbalance in college/jobs is simple: Equal scholarships per gender. Allow open-to-all exams for degrees. All knowledge learned via language can be learned by anyone with the will power. ie, people should be able to walk into an exam room, & take X exams to get a degree. (Prove the same knowledge, get the same degree.) And this should be very cheap or free. This of course would exclude hands on training. In a fair system a doctor would be allowed to pass their knowle…
/r/MensRights20/06/13 07:59 AM
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but at least it's data and not assumption. Actually, believing the data is assuming the women are telling the truth, & not hiding anything. And whether you'll believe such (assume such) depends on your personal logic/reasoning.
/r/TheRedPill22/05/13 04:51 PM
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Female promiscuity has been subject to actual research Problem: people lie. (And hide things.) While research based on what women claim is great, that's no reason to ignore logical analysis.
/r/TheRedPill22/05/13 03:31 PM
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Just calling him a "troll" these days means almost nothing. I mean, your submission is poorly explained because you didn't more fully explain this person's alleged motivations/etc. In other words, what type of "troll" do you think they are?
/r/MensRights03/03/13 02:00 PM
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Your assumption (that I must say "real") to be attacking fake-egalitarians is incorrect. eg, I can say "if these 'animal welfare advocates' were legitimately for animal welfare they'd care about all animals, not just the cute ones." That only offends the fakes. In the same way, my criticism was only towards fake-egalitarians, not real ones.
/r/MensRights10/12/12 08:52 PM
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The biggest difference is that r/mensrights appears to allow free speech. In contrast, those who never speak for equality for father/boy/male victims cover-up their hypocrisy by banning people who advocate actual egalitarianism. I've made endless comments like "an egalitarian cares about issues for both genders- like helping women victims of A & B, (islamic government, too few women in congress, etc) & helping male victims of C & D." That's actual egalitarianism- but you don't have to say it all…
/r/MensRights10/12/12 07:30 PM

[bs argument against free speech] First off, I don't have to say "fake egalitarians" to only attack the fakes. For example I can say "real animal welfare advocates care about all animals, not just the cute ones." Or I can say "if these 'animal welfare advocates' were legitimately for animal welfare they'd care about all animals, not just the cute ones." That does not attack the people who are real animal welfare advocates. It only offends the fakes who care about just the cute ones.
/r/MensRights10/12/12 06:34 PM
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It's amazing that they can publicly stand up for male victims without being labeled a "rape supporter" (or similar) by vicious man hating propagandists. Maybe the trick is the big signs. A large four word sign can't be twisted easily.
/r/MensRights20/11/12 01:48 PM
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Even if you're mostly right, there's still something hypocritical about having different standards for how we define "us" & "them." Also, even if you're right, the way to win is to act more mature than your foes. Attacking the term "feminism", in terms of popularity, isn't going to sell with many common people who haven't been hurt by unfair policies. At the very least, more MRAs should say something like "We totally reject that feminism is [whatever they claim it is], however we celebrate those…
/r/MensRights05/11/12 06:57 AM
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Arguing "what feminism actually is" is very logical, however many of us are hypocritical when we define "them"/feminists by their bad apples as if no sexists ever call themselves "MRAs." I mean, even if "their side" (in terms of language) has 100x more sexists than ours, it's still hypocritical to define an "MRA" as a flawless egalitarian while defining "them" based on their most vulgar sexists. I admit- you could argue their worst sexists have helped influence a lot of politics, however even th…
/r/MensRights05/11/12 04:05 AM
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Thank you for the polite reply. value is determined in part by demand 1: This is just off-topic to what LTV writers meant by value. 2: What you wrote could be rewritten as "exchange value determined in part by demand." That's obviously correct. the source [of in demand value] would vary along with no[t] just being determined by labor. 1: If you think there's a source of value creation other than human labor (including intellectual work) & other than freak luck (like finding gold in your yard) th…
/r/MensRights05/11/12 03:27 AM
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It tries to explain value without accounting for demand, when demand affects value to a large degree. That is the problem. Your differing semantics over "value" do not make the types of "value" used by LTV writers wrong. It's funny how the standard capitalists propagandists act so confident about their logical abilities, but in reality only have a semantics debate where they define "value" differently, & then dishonestly pretend the LTV's "value" is the same as their own version. If you make 50 …
/r/MensRights04/11/12 10:09 PM
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You're conflating trade under threat of violence with trade after what you call violence. Incorrect. Once violent ownership is started, every future "agreement" to get access/ownership for that property is done under the threat of violence. eg, imagine an island which (at first) only had people claiming enough property for their own basic necessities of life (shelter, a little farm land, etc.) And imagine that one man changed his claim: he violently claimed ownership of all the remaining island.…
/r/MensRights04/11/12 10:04 AM
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marginal utility ! The diminishing "marginal utility" explanation for price is simply not logical. See, in real life people (almost always) don't simply receive a bunch of free stuff like "the farmer has far more bags of grain than he needs, and does X with the extras." In real life people buy things. So if the physical amount of "bags of grain" increase (an increase in supply) they'll generally get cheaper so in real life the consumer could simply buy less of the item & save more money. Obvious…
/r/MensRights04/11/12 10:04 AM
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Labor exploitation? It's not exploitation when it's mutually beneficial and voluntary. The rich's violence/ownership over a city's land (industry, housing, natural resources) is not voluntary- the people did not consent to it, & are hurt by that aggressive violence. The rich, by violently depriving workers of the land they need for industry & housing (and by depriving workers of part of the fruits of their labor) are not benefiting the working class but violently robbing the working class. If yo…
/r/MensRights04/11/12 01:59 AM
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Incorrect. There's plenty of incentive to build a factory other than to create an economic class system with your kids in the ownership class once you're dead. When you see "rich investors" sitting on their bums "investing in factories" you have to remember that was wealth created by the working class & taken via labor exploitation. What's the point? If the workers kept the full value of their value creation the exact same amount of investment money would exist. The difference would be workers w…
/r/MensRights03/11/12 04:13 PM
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So no incentive to save? There's plenty of incentive to save up money other than creating class systems for wealthy children who are born into the ownership class. You could save for your own business ideas (for your own labor) or whatever you desire that's fun or important to your own actual life. I mean, it's one thing to inherit land/housing for personal use (which can often be fine), but inheriting vast amounts of money allows someone to go beyond land for personal use: Currently with owners…
/r/MensRights02/11/12 07:22 PM
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That's an attempted personal attack, not a counter argument.
/r/MensRights02/11/12 06:19 PM
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First off, I consider you highly ignorant of how whites remained wealthy in the south, & your ideas that blacks already got "reparations" in terms of land are also ignorant. The land they got often "had strings attached" that was not fair, & many blacks didn't get anything. In contrast, a white slavery family (who didn't save any of their slavery fortune somehow hiding it somehow) who simply inherited a bunch of valuable land could become incredibly wealthy just because of it. eg, owning land ne…
/r/MensRights02/11/12 05:25 PM
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And alternative, would be to somehow abolish inheritance & to create a fairer system for all.
/r/MensRights02/11/12 05:20 PM
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My parents came to America in the 50s I'm not advocating taxing people who didn't inherit slavery wealth somehow. Please understand that it's often blatantly clear who profited from slavery. eg, the biggest slavery funding bank was arguably Chase (which changed it's name & such, but is still one of the world's biggest banks.) Chase bought-up a whole bunch of slavery funding banks & so on. Similarly you can just drive around the rural south & find one ex-plantation after another (generally "in th…
/r/MensRights02/11/12 05:16 PM

affirmative action which is by definition, not equality. While the current AA system is insane, let's remember that a small minority of whites inheriting endless slavery wealth (while the black new generations are left with almost nothing) is also not equality. There's surely a better solution than the current AA system.
/r/MensRights02/11/12 04:48 PM
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I have read many of your "arguments," and since almost all of them were dishonest & unintelligent word-twisting blather, I skipped that. Sorry. Basically, I say one thing and then you twist it. etc etc.
/r/MensRights08/09/12 06:41 PM
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If you've gone so far away from your original theory I have not. You have posted nothing from any of the famous LTV writers which has shown my own explanation of it to be different. Zero. Nada. . . (You simply interpret these guy's quotes in insane ways.) All I said, was that if I were to change my favorite version of the LTV to a specific person's version, is that there would be nothing illogical about that.
/r/MensRights08/09/12 10:22 AM
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No matter how you look at it, he's saying the value is intrinsic Incorrect. You are just interpreting his words in an insane way. And obviously his quote could be interpreted to mean other things than "value is intrinsic." In other words, you'll pick and choose whatever definition you damn well please You haven't shown anything from any of the more-famous theorists that conflicts with my explanation of the LTV. Instead, you've taken quotes blatantly out of context, & interpreted them like a craz…
/r/MensRights08/09/12 10:12 AM
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I defined subjective multiple times as I used it in that sentence. I was using a common meaning out of the dictionary. Also, I disagree with the rest of your opinions. I have had to explain the very basics of the LTV to you- like how "value" does not usually mean price, and I've had to explain the difference between use-value and exchange-value. You clearly have no idea what you're talking about.
/r/MensRights08/09/12 09:59 AM
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I don't think you do, since you seem to think it's about how goods are produced and not how things are valued. Another lie. I said the LTV discusses the creation of products/commodities, not your words. value isn't intrinsic!! The out-of-context quote (about commodities) did not say value was intrinsic, it said this: "Labour, therefore, is the real measure of the exchangeable value of all commodities. The real price of everything, what everything really costs to the man who wants to acquire it, …
/r/MensRights08/09/12 09:55 AM
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subjective I wasn't using that definition. [everything else] Was equally pointless.
/r/MensRights08/09/12 09:42 AM
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Adam Smith said many times that he was talking about commodities, so I suspect you're taking him out of context, like any troll would. You could prove me wrong by showing him explaining how the value of art was based on labor hours. EDIT: The sentence before what you quoted him saying was "Labour, therefore, is the real measure of the exchangeable value of all commodities. " Besides, even if you found something in Smith's version I disagree with, there are many versions of the theory. So that'd …
/r/MensRights08/09/12 09:34 AM
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Value is not just the bigger point, that's the whole point. That's why it's the labor theory of value. It still discusses the production of commodities/goods/etc. You confused use-value with the value economics speaks of. That's an incorrect statements because "value" doesn't only mean price. Anyways, I specifically said I wasn't talking about price: me: The value of art is more subjective than the value of water. (And note: I didn't say "price" but value, which are not always the same. As the j…
/r/MensRights08/09/12 09:22 AM
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You say that the defining thing with legitimate goods is how they are originally obtained. I don't consider absentee ownership property as an equal form of property deserving of the same rules. (Compared to personally-used-property.) If your opinion is to just allow one form of property, that's just your opinion & I don't care about it. Secondly, then that's not the labor theory of value. Actually endless advocates of the LTV have advocated the same view I just stated a bunch of times- that all …
/r/MensRights08/09/12 09:17 AM
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No, it deals with how goods are valued. That's why it's the labor theory of value, not the labor theory of goods. That's just stupid. While the bigger point of the LTV may be understanding value, despite that the LTV still discusses how commodities/products/etc are created. deal with to address or discuss as a subject; -- http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/deal_with But that goal of wanting to stay alive is subjective. It just happens to be a very commonly held goal. That's not using the definition o…
/r/MensRights08/09/12 08:52 AM
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At the beginning of our discussion, we talked about rural property being established, and you were okay with that, but if a city grew up around it, then it's become wanted land and suddenly your ownership is violent. Troll, I wasn't talking about personal property but absentee ownership. There's no such thing as physical value. There are only physical goods, that are subjectively valued. Troll, that's semantics. Again, I'm talking about physical things of value to people, meaning people decide w…
/r/MensRights08/09/12 08:45 AM
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LTV doesn't deal with how goods are created, but how they are valued. Incorrect. The LTV does deal-with how products/commodities/etc are created. deal with to address or discuss as a subject. -- http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/deal_with Something can't be more or less subjective. It's either subjective or it's not. That depends which definition of "subjective" you use. If we use: sub·jec·tive Based on or influenced by personal feelings, tastes, or opinions. Then we can say that water's value is no…
/r/MensRights08/09/12 08:34 AM
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You put this strange limitation on it that if someone wants it after you claim it, it stops being your property. I did not, you illiterate buffoon. I was literally quoting you!! You added your own insane "logic." me: "all new value, excluding rare luck, comes from human labor" you: that should mean equivalent labor [time] produces equivalent value. And your original insane argument is: if labor is the source of value, then things of equivalent labor should be of equivalent value. What's wrong wi…
/r/MensRights08/09/12 08:12 AM
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Value is only an imaginary opinion. Troll, that' semantics. Obviously by "new value" I'm talking about new physical things of value. eg, all new value/Things of value that stopped being imaginary, & became physical, became real things of value because of human labor. [water and art are both subjective!] Troll, I said the value of art is more subjective. (And I didn't say "price" but in "value" which can be interpreted in many ways.) Wait, by workers, did you mean workers of that specific company…
/r/MensRights08/09/12 07:56 AM
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And that matter existed before, so it's not new. It's the same old matter in a new shape. Troll, I'm not talking about new atoms. In my example, I said a fully grown plant that was created with a mix of a seed & human labor is new. (So you know I'm not talking about the atoms.) No, this time you said that anyone can claim a natural resource as his own. I scrolled back in my comment history, I said many times that it's moral under some circumstances to claim land (and whatever natural stuff) is o…
/r/MensRights08/09/12 07:41 AM
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What I want is new information, but you keep repeating yourself and expect me to somehow infer the new information from that repetition. I can't sugar coat this & make it polite. You simply lack the intellectual abilities to understand what I've explained to you. In other words, this simple position of mine boggles your mind: Don't use violence to claim something which already exists if another person wants it. If other person(s) want it (something which already exists,) share it, such as either…
/r/MensRights08/09/12 06:46 AM
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I see, more than ever, that you are simply a dishonest troll. (Which I've always suspected.) For example, how you can't even accept that creating a new fully grown plant from a seed is creating something new. And in reality, that isn't a "new" plant, it's just the same seed grown up, coming as a natural resource that Bob did not invent. We cannot say that the original seed he collected was not legitimate property and simultaneously claim that now that it's gotten taller, it has become legitimate…
/r/MensRights08/09/12 06:29 AM
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My description here is to point out that legitimate property is [bla bla bla]. But you assert that doing the same thing with property you disagree with, namely that of natural resources, is immoral without describing what the proper way to treat natural resources is. You are failing to understand my positions, & imagining a conflict of my views which does not exist. You have probably misunderstood something I've wrote, however instead of explaining your problem, you speak vaguely about "natural …
/r/MensRights08/09/12 03:41 AM
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you tried showing how in one the good was created while in the other it's collected, but those created goods are only possible because natural goods were collected in the first place! In reality, my opposition to violently claiming a pre-existing thing that another person wants allows one to claim unwanted things for your own work/personal-use. For example, "Bob" can go out into the forest and collect seeds without using violence against anyone. And. . . Once he brings those seeds closer to town…
/r/MensRights08/09/12 03:08 AM
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me: [the costs of getting the materials are the costs of paying labor to get the materials] you: Yeah, but that's not necessarily the cost of the material, which is what I said. That's like saying "[the costs of the material] is not necessarily the cost of the material." Anyways, the you did not logically consider what I said. See, hen you pay for "material A" you're not just paying for the human labor to transport it: you're also paying for the human labor to find it, transform it into sellable…
/r/MensRights08/09/12 03:06 AM
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I'm saying you are ignoring the common factor, which is that violent defense and profit motivation is the same way that all property is treated Your "argument" appears to be "all ownership/violence is based on on profit." That's incorrect. eg, owning land/housing can be purely about survival. (etc) And more importantly, what you said isn't a counter-argument to my position (against using violence:) Don't use violence to claim something which already exists if another person wants it. If other(s)…
/r/MensRights07/09/12 09:15 PM
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That property "to harm" is true of all property. eg, a farmer claims his crops. Actually, the worker, by claiming the fruits of his labor, harms no one. Why? Because he's not violently depriving another person of something which already existed. (ie, which would exist without him.) And in contrast, an absentee land owner (of wanted/city property) violently claim something that already existed. (He's violently depriving another person of something which already existed.) Obvious huh? (In other wo…
/r/MensRights07/09/12 08:05 AM
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it's still originally something we took from nature that is not something made from the fruit of our labor. That's your argument, not mine. When I talk about someone "claiming nature" I don't mean something they've transformed or grown with their own labor, but simply claiming something that already existed. And by the way, it's not always immoral to do so. As I've explained many times, you can tell which form of property is moral / consensual easily: Claiming land that no one else wants does no…
/r/MensRights06/09/12 01:16 PM
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Your newest post was not your best. For example, I explained the land issue perfectly and you totally ignored it. I basically said: Claiming land that no one else wants does not require violence. Claiming land that someone else wants requires violence. Do you understand that or not? . . . Please remember that the actual individuals who want that land did not consent to any trades/claims/deeds from their forefathers. (It doesn't matter to the people of a town if you got a deed from 1864. They did…
/r/MensRights06/09/12 08:48 AM
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But seriously, you know I have morals. No I truly don't. If you can not understand how incredibly hurtful it is when people freeze to death on the street where land is physically common, mainly because it's bid up in value by far-away investors who don't even use it. . . And how it's bid-up, because people are preying off the suffering (the incredible demand people have for land.) Then I don't see you as having emotions. (I suspect, you through your self-indoctrinate of propaganda learn to stop …
/r/MensRights05/09/12 09:35 PM
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Now if it was something like this property was obtained by theft, then I see a more legitimate claim. But I don't think that's what you mean, since you talk about people buying it. It's not legitimate "buying" (it's not a purchase from the other people who wanted that land.) The so-called "buying" (buying deeds from dead generations) is something modern people didn't consent to. In other words, the "buying" of the deeds is just a dishonest cover-up for the violence/ownership that modern people d…
/r/MensRights05/09/12 09:03 PM
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Even better, there is a visible difference too. Protective violence may only happen after someone else has used violence against your life liberty or property. Of course, you're ignoring the violence to claim property. (Which in an urban/group situation- with multiple people wanting something -means the strongest party violently claiming things without the consent of the others.) Currently that violence (by the upper classes) is committed by "police officers" (the rich's mercenaries, for the law…
/r/MensRights04/09/12 06:56 PM
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But you said it was already going to be scarce. It just changed from the original seller's hands to his hands. Buying something to take it off the market further increases the scarcity. (Which of course means further increasing the price, which hurts the people who need that thing. It's gaining pay for hurting people, not creating value. If you're paying attention, I just debunked a major capitalist myth. I suspect it'll take months for you to realize this. . . ) Note: This type of investing cou…
/r/MensRights04/09/12 06:56 PM
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So. . You like Adam Smith? That's ironic since Smith spoke of landlords as cruel parasites, who didn't deserve their profits, and were so "indolent" that they were "not only ignorant but incapable of the application of mind." "The rent of the land, therefore, considered as the price paid for the use of the land, is naturally a monopoly price. It is not at all proportioned to what the landlord may have laid out upon the improvement of the land, or to what he can afford to take; but to what the fa…
/r/MensRights03/09/12 08:54 PM
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but I have no idea how far you plan to take your plans to violently remove people's property rights. Incorrect. In reality, I'm trying to return people's legitimate property rights (meaning for those people who want a home for actual use.) And for this to happen (for more people to be able to own their own home) more landlords (and absentee land investors generally) need to lose state enforced protection of their violent hurtful scheme. If I were living in a non-for-profit housing development, I…
/r/MensRights03/09/12 06:51 PM
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Good. Now that you've caught on to the fact that buildings have real costs separate from the land it sits on, I have news for you: you're the only person who's ever interpreted my argument about the "sell price of the home" / housing prices to mean only the structure. In other words, the miscommunication was your own fault, & I was never saying that buildings don't have real costs separate from the land they sit on. Saying this (mainly talking about the costs of new house construction) does not …
/r/MensRights03/09/12 05:30 PM
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Greetings. That's a really shocking reply because it implies we had serious miscommunication. (I almost wonder if your entire angry disagreement with me was miscommunication.) See. . . When I talked about "the sell price of a house" I meant the whole package: land, house, etc. (In other words the main variable is the land.) Of course building a new house structure will cost the same amount. In other words, the policy I advocate seeks to make the total sell price of a house (and it's lot) to be s…
/r/MensRights03/09/12 05:05 PM
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But you're fundamentally wrong. The purpose of the example was to expose you to some real numbers. You're having a very massive logical error. See. . . When I argue that in a different legal system that housing prices would be lower (like a house that currently costs $200k should cost less than that) it's not a counter argument to compare modern housing costs to modern rent. That's irrelevant. In my example, the house would cost 180k to build which is significantly higher than the current "viole…
/r/MensRights03/09/12 04:45 PM
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Greetings. Thank you for improving your attitude. Anyways. . . You start this post saying you disagree with me, but don't actually use counter arguments. eg: [bla] doesn't fall anywhere under our definition of [bla]. Isn't an argument against anything I've said. And when you do argue things, (like what counts as violence. . .) you seem to be missing the point: morally, there's a massive difference between protective violence (like protecting something you actually use) & hurtful violence. Anyway…
/r/MensRights03/09/12 04:38 PM
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me: markets only work for consumers when consumers control them. you: I disagree. The basis of trade is that it benefits both parties. You're focusing purely on the two people trading, when in reality that ownership can affect many more people. eg, imagine the news declared there was an upcoming shortage of "X Widgets", and a man (to profit) started buying "X Widgets" in bulk. . . Know this: his actions further reduce the supply (creating artificial man-made scarcity, which is not legitimate phy…
/r/MensRights03/09/12 09:59 AM
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You claim you can't take me seriously intellectually and then take the time to write a wall of text. I'm studying stupid people. ie, your inability to read/understand my arguments/language. Once I identify what you've failed to understand, I can learn to write in a way that even stupid people can understand. A texas house is $2k/mo, or $240k to own. So some people would rather rent!!11111 Irrelevant. (You're confused. . .) Understand this: I'm arguing that if landlords didn't exist (if we had a …
/r/MensRights03/09/12 07:01 AM
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Greetings. I totally can't take you seriously, intellectually. Just look at this bullshit you actually said: Rental properties in town provide a service to the economy. They increase the availability of low cost housing. That's almost never the case. (If you'd said "highly compact apartments" you would sometimes be correct.) In reality most landlords increase the costs of housing. Why? 1: More bidders. (In other words, without landlords buying up houses/housing-land the only bidders would be the…
/r/MensRights03/09/12 05:20 AM
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I read about three sentences of your recent reply: you totally twisted something I said into "wanting the government to control the supply." If I remember right, I was actually explaining how the government controls the "supply" of for-sale lots of land. (Not advocating the current system, but complaining about how it's being corrupted/controlled.) This argument was part of a bigger argument (about how powerful groups, at times, can control/corrupt markets. . . And how markets only work for cons…
/r/MensRights03/09/12 04:07 AM
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You pretend to be another anti-violence type, but when it's the rich using violence to hurt the poor, you ignore it. (Standard conservatism.) Your biggest logical error (of the many) is that you can't admit that a person who buys up city land to rent it is using violence to deny people access to those properties unless they pay. (Hurting them.) Anyways. . . What you surely fail to understand, is that by allowing these people (absentee owners) we end up with higher housing costs. (In other words,…
/r/MensRights02/09/12 12:24 PM
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That's just about the opposite view as me. Property is a way to deal with the fundamental problem of economics: scarcity. We have a limited amount of stuff in the world. It is because something is scarce that people make an ownership claim on something. Two people cannot stand on the same spot, own the same apple, etc. You seem to talk about property only when owning property is irrelevant. Your arguments (essentially about "supporting property") show you're confused about what I advocated. (I'm…
/r/MensRights02/09/12 10:13 AM
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["Slippery slope" logical fallacy] + [change of topic to investing cash in a potential product.] That's not a counter argument to anything I've said. However, I'll explain. . . Let's assume you're talking about gaining ownership of the business because you had money & knew a guy who had ideas. . . .: The moral question is this: Is a person using hurtful violence against non-consenting people if they invest cash in a business? And as I've explained repeatedly, that depends on whether the property…
/r/MensRights02/09/12 05:49 AM
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Greetings. You're failing to understand that the absentee owner (of city land) is using violence to hurt people. (To violently deny them access to land, which is violence that modern people never consented to.) My system ends that violence while ensuring that the property owner is paid for any building/improving they did on the property. (They are paid for their work, by selling the property.) Similarly, if a mugger is using violence to hurt people, we must use violence to stop that violence. Th…
/r/MensRights02/09/12 05:14 AM
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So if by personal property you didn't mean something they are personally using, where do you draw the line? Because in that case, you are allowing for absentee ownership. I'm talking about "absentee ownership" more like investors or historians do. (ie, not 100 percent literally like "the man put down his laptop, so it was not his." That's really silly, & you are wasting my time with this stuff. I'll google this for you:) "absentee ownership, originally meant, ownership of land by proprietors who…
/r/MensRights02/09/12 04:13 AM
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Thank you for a polite reply. But they're not personally using it at the moment. That was my point. This "using the property at the moment" is something you made-up, not me. I believe every worker needs a property for living, and a property for business. Of course the worker must leave one property to go to another. Some people ask "how many months/years can someone go vacant before they're not using the property?" (Some arbitrary number.) If you would like an answer, it's something like: "If a …
/r/MensRights02/09/12 02:17 AM
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Say, if a family goes away on vacation, leaving their house empty, may I take it for myself since they are not personally using it? No- they're using that as storage for the stuff they personally use. So the size of the property, which can be subjectively stated as "too large" or "too small", is what defines something as legitimate ownership or not? Well that's quite an arbitrary distinction. Incorrect. I am talking about city land & things on it. (I simply described them as large properties to …
/r/MensRights02/09/12 01:43 AM
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Incorrect. what is personal property? I'm talking about large land properties (and therefore industry, housing, etc. . .) Basically, I mean this: ownership over city land (which you aren't using personally) is using violence against people who did not consent. This violence/ownership allows the rich to sit around on their butts profiting. (And all uses of violence to profit are theft.) Even if you personally built something on city land, like a building to rent out, it's mainly valuable because …
/r/MensRights02/09/12 01:33 AM
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rich people's rights I suspect you mean capitalist style ownership (absentee ownership) meaning their ownership over properties they don't use themselves. I have news for you: the workers/renters/etc never consented to the rich's violent ownership claims over the land (and therefore housing, industry, natural resources, etc.) People simply learn, as they grow up, that these ownership claims are enforced by the police. So, if you mean such. . . That's an immoral use of violence with the purpose o…
/r/MensRights02/09/12 01:22 AM
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Greetings. I think you're overreacting because this image is not arguing that "only whites had it bad." It's arguing against stereotypes. The guy above explained his few thusly: "The reason that I said 'privileged white men' is because, as a white guy, my race is always brought up when I discuss things with feminists, because it means that they can dismiss my contributions to a discussion" And I've found personally (also as a white guy,) that when I simply advocate something as basic as "letting…
/r/MensRights30/08/12 08:20 PM
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Again, comparing logic tests to each other is not an argument that they're superior (to a different kind of test..) For example, you would never compare a Toyota car to another Toyota car to argue that a Toyota should be used instead of a Ford vehicle. (This is why I say "I don't care if the number is 0.99"- because that's only showing correlation between logic tests.) In other words: I don't think the IQ test is the best ever possible test. (So comparing the SAT to the IQ test is not an argumen…
/r/MensRights25/07/12 07:57 AM
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And even if the sat isn't perfect it is still of high enough quality to provide an effective metric. Again, comparing logic tests to each other is not an argument that they are superior to a different kind of test.. I don't care if the number is 0.99, and frankly I don't think the IQ test is the best ever possible test. (I don't care when you compare the SAT to the IQ.) After all, even an IQ test would still be a small-picture test that can't tell the different between two high-IQ people with va…
/r/MensRights24/07/12 02:50 PM
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What I argued is such a change wouldn't result in a change in student population at the various levels. It obviously would- all the people who study knowledge would be understood to have higher learning abilities than the flawed/inferior SAT test shows. The SAT only fully rewards people who study trivia with their full abilities. (Pseudo-intellectuals.) The SAT system essentially blocks intellectually honest people from getting their full knowledge learning abilities measured, because honest peo…
/r/MensRights24/07/12 01:36 PM
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However, now I see what you were really advocating the whole time. You weren't talking about replacing the sat at all, because you apparently didn't realize what niche it fills and what purpose it serves. Incorrect. (Obviously I know what the SAT is. . .) I want the SAT replaced with a knowledge test. A knowledge test would obviously be a better "predictive test" (not that this matters) because it'd show everyone's full intellectual/learning abilities & not just the full learning abilities of pe…
/r/MensRights24/07/12 01:11 PM
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me: IQ & knowledge can be very different variables. For example, two people with similar IQs can know vastly different amounts of knowledge. you: For a 17 or 18 year old, this isn't that important. They will have similar exposures in school. First off, you just admitted that I was correct (that two people with similar IQs can know vastly different amounts of knowledge.) I said it over & over & over again, & finally you answered it. Thank you for finally being more serious. . . However, your mome…
/r/MensRights24/07/12 11:45 AM
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Anyways, in Europe lots of countries have free/cheap education but what Americans don't know is at many of these schools one simply has to pass a few exams to get a degree. (Absolutely zero attendance grades, no small tests/gimmicks to "keep the class full" etc. However, some require a thesis.) Frankly these colleges economically benefit from such- to a "free" state university it costs less if students educate themselves. (It requires less teachers, buildings, staff, etc.) Here's a few examples:…
/r/MensRights24/07/12 11:40 AM
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You don't understand that knowledge and IQ aren't independent variables. IQ & knowledge can be very different variables. For example, two people with similar IQs can know vastly different amounts of knowledge. When provided with evidence that knowledge based tests are highly correlated with standard tests, making them basically interchangeable, you find a reason why that specific type of knowledge based test isn't good enough. I clearly said a good knowledge test would focus primarily on science…
/r/MensRights24/07/12 05:12 AM
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insulting assumptions & personal attacks!!!! Your assumptions are incorrect. The problem is you think being "knowledgeable" is completely independent of IQ. It isn't. I said the opposite: I said knowledge & IQ would somewhat correlate, however if two people had the same IQ and one was knowledgeable and the other ignorant, a simple small-picture logic-test would fail to show that the knowledgeable one was more intellectual. In fact, I said that many times. . . In many posts. . . And the fact that…
/r/MensRights23/07/12 05:52 PM
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Before I start explaining your newest logical errors, have you actually looked at these? Example 1, 2, and 3. ) Please do, and please explain how studying this type of stuff is better than studying useful knowledge. (For my entertainment.) Do not keep responding to me while you ignore these, I've posted them many times awaiting your surely hilarious response. Anyways. . . In reality that type of stuff (in the examples) is pseudo-intellectual, while actual intellectuals study knowledge that's far…
/r/MensRights23/07/12 09:13 AM
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All of these tests are highly positively correlated, meaning it won't make much difference. Incorrect. The fact that non-knowledge logic tests are highly correlated (to each other) does not prove that a knowledge test (relating to science, industry, & various modern things) would correlate. it won't make much difference!!!!111!!111 Imagine this: two very high-IQ guys take some "intelligence tests." The first guy has spent his entire life reading on many subjects. . . (But not generally worthless…
/r/MensRights23/07/12 06:20 AM
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You obviously have no idea what I'm saying, & therefore can not make a counter-argument. Comparing "the tasks the testers did in their work, that is with shipping or fishing" is not in any way similar to what I advocate. I am talking about knowledge of science, industry, & things in modern conversation such as political systems & whatnot. . . In the end, you mostly need to understand that a knowledgeable person, on a logic test, will not outscore an ignorant person much (if at all) with a simila…
/r/MensRights22/07/12 07:42 PM
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That was truly idiotic. You have yet again compared a bunch of non-knowledge logic tests to each other & claimed it's proof that a knowledge test would be just like all the logic tests. . . I have news for you: a logic test & knowledge test are so different that you can not simply assume that people will score equally. For example, obviously the most knowledgeable people will score very differently (on a knowledge test) than on a simple logical test. . . And similarly, a normal-IQ person who rea…
/r/MensRights22/07/12 08:12 AM
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what G is!!! Repeating your view is not a counter argument to the knowledge-based testing I advocate. Your faux-counter-argument is basically "One form of the [absurd tests] compares well to the other [absurd tests.]" In reality, that argument could defend any system currently in place. (eg, if the whole system was just people playing variants of checkers, you could argue "they're all fine because checkers is heavily G loaded!") In other words, "Checkers compares well to other forms of checkers!…
/r/MensRights21/07/12 09:31 PM
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The problem is you don't understand what g is, Incorrect. I understand exactly what psychologists mean by "general intelligence." Note: what you just wrote is not an argument, but a personal attack. That is because g (general intelligence) helps a person no matter what they are pursuing, including taking in knowledge. I am sorry that you so strongly disagree with that, but that is a fact. I don't disagree that "general [logic] intelligence" helps a person taking in knowledge. My criticism is far…
/r/MensRights20/07/12 07:14 PM
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Psychometrics is well established, and they do their statistics quite well. Anyone can do statistics (shamans, scientologists, etc.) In reality "doing statistics" is only scientific if the data is from physical repeatable experiments. (Creating statistics with subjective/opinion data is not scientific. Frankly it's often a dishonest gimmick to fool people into thinking something is scientific when it's really just opinion.) G was first identified over 100 years ago, and despite the very passiona…
/r/MensRights20/07/12 07:13 PM
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The idea that iq related tests don't measure g has been debunked. My argument had nothing to do with this: I specifically advocated that the SAT be replaced with a test that focused on facts/knowledge (and logic) which are more relevant to real life. And Why? It's the difference between rewarding intellectuals & rewarding pseudo-intellectuals. For example, a youth studying things which will be useful in their real life would score less than someone studying a SAT prep book full of dying words, o…
/r/MensRights20/07/12 06:01 AM
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Greetings. Nebulous words like "equality" are used by a speaker to mean exactly what they want them to mean. I still have no idea what you desire (what you think is a fair system for human rights/genders.) Can you please explain your specific views?
/r/MensRights19/07/12 05:52 PM
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Greetings. That is not an argument- it's simply stating your opinion. Now, I'll debunk your view simply by showing you what the SAT has transformed into. (A test that has nothing to do with people's real lives, & is partially graded by subjective methods.) Click away: example 1 example 2 example 3 A better test would focus on knowledge that's more commonly useful in real life. Plus (as for testing logical abilities) it'd quiz people on logical situations that actually happen in real life. (Which…
/r/MensRights19/07/12 05:01 PM
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Greetings. What does that even mean? . . . Most of the "anti-equality" crowd here isn't actually anti-equality, they just say stuff like "I don't believe in state-enforced equal results, just equal opportunity & equal rights!" (Which, ironically, is exactly what most people mean by "support gender equality.") However, as for your comment, I have no idea what you're advocating.
/r/MensRights19/07/12 03:43 PM
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I believe the solution (for everything but hands-on training) is to have free/cheap open-to-everyone exams, walk-in style. (ie, pass a few exams to get a degree, just like Albert Einstein did.) No bureaucrats should be able to stop you from proving what you know (or force you to pay for the whole package.) The simple reality is, despite what everyone in the ruling class says, is that anyone with will power can educate themselves & study for exams. The problem is we're required to pay for the who…
/r/MensRights19/07/12 08:21 AM
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Gender equality is sameness of outcome, I think most people mean "equal rights" (& opportunity) when they say "gender equality." For example, I've noticed that most people advocating gender equality don't mean forcing boys to like girl's toys, or forcing men into the makeup industry. . . They mean (I think) what you said in the first paragraph: "equal rights and opportunities." Language-wise, I hope you'll change your opinion & talk about "gender equality" as a good thing.
/r/MensRights18/07/12 09:30 PM
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me: if there's a population of 1000, and only 500 jobs, then poverty will happen even if every person is Albert Einstein. you: once again, people are POOR out of choice, they COULD start their own business People without money (and therefore without access to land, housing, resources, etc) have very few "options" to start a business. (And the "options" they do have are often glorified charity.) Its funny that you say a nonprofit rental system would get to choose who they rented to. So then the p…
/r/MensRights02/07/12 09:53 AM
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a non profit rental is retarded because if someone does not own the property they have no obligation to maintain it. You are wrongly assuming that no one has an interest in protecting a non-profit organization's property. In reality, (in a non-profit organization) the people who control the organization want to keep it alive. Why? They are often employed by that organization, but paid for work instead of ownership. Those people (such as a group's president, board of directors, & normal employees…
/r/MensRights02/07/12 08:39 AM
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your assumption that people DON'T make bad decisions is ignorant. I didn't say that. I said this: "Your comment is a standard hateful assumption. (Blaming all people with bad credit for their "bad decisions" such as big health care bills, cancer, surviving other illnesses, etc.) In reality, the working class has risks which are not their fault- if their job is off-shored, they can miss payments and get bad credit. . . You should be ashamed for posting this crap in public." I never said that "all…
/r/MensRights30/06/12 05:25 AM
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A lot of times people live on the streets because they lack common sense or made bad decisions, like heroin. When I mentioned homelessness (in one of my previous posts,) I mentioned youths with signs asking for work, who were the victim of land-hoarders driving up land costs far out in the desert of California. Understand this: Land was not rare out there, & should not have been expensive. Yet the rigged "cost" was tens of thousands of dollars for a tiny lot of land. How was it rigged? See, ther…
/r/MensRights29/06/12 01:04 PM
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Thank you for being interested in my views. [owning multiple properties/houses] I'm fine with someone owning multiple non-profit properties. My concern is the total land a person owns, because owning many acres makes for-sale land artificially rare/expensive. I advocate a maximum acreage of land, which would be different for each area. As for co-op businesses, they should be allowed to own fairly big amounts of land if they were going to physically use it. [multiple houses] That's fine. What abo…
/r/MensRights28/06/12 07:37 PM
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Greetings. It seems that every viewpoint is defined differently by each side. However I mostly fit the term "libertarian socialist." I mean: "Libertarian" (a "bare minimum state"- a justice system, some food laws. . . For-use property protection, etc.) And "socialist" (only enforcing property rights in a way which help the working class, not the ownership/capitalist class.) However, "socialist" is hard to use. Even socialists don't agree what it means. And most Americans are taught it's a "big c…
/r/MensRights28/06/12 01:26 PM
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Greetings, & thank you for your polite reply. You should be anti- CRONY-capitalism. Because that is the problem, business and government in cahoots. I'm against that too. But to be frank. . . I consider all for-profit ownership (like owning something while sitting on your butt & profiting) to be "business & government in cahoots." It's a use of state violence against the working class & citizens, without their consent. Basically, I consider all for-profit ownership to be a misuse of state violen…
/r/MensRights28/06/12 09:57 AM
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Actually, both parties pander to the women vote. Haven't you heard of Obama's "War On Women?" Here's a CNN article: "Romney On Dems' 'War On Women'" "Mitt Romney made an appeal to a voting bloc key to any candidate's success in November: women... 'If we're going to get women back to work and help women with the real issues women care about - good jobs, good wages, a bright future for themselves, their families, and their kids, we're going to have to elect a president who understands how the econ…
/r/MensRights28/06/12 08:22 AM
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When politics & men's rights collide, we should still stay focused on men's rights & not side issues. Capitalism & insults I doubt we agree on what "capitalism" means. I consider "capitalism" to be based on capital, such as gaining wealth from things one owns. (Not working to create value.) This is how capital / capitalism have been historically used, even back in the times of Lincoln & Adam Smith. eg: "capitalists generally act harmoniously and in concert, to fleece the people." -- Abe Lincoln …
/r/MensRights28/06/12 08:08 AM
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Sure, however not everything political is related to men's human rights. Generally, r/MR should not be political.
/r/MensRights28/06/12 06:04 AM
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not getting to pick and choose. Incorrect. They could declare some parts constitutional & others unconstitutional.
/r/MensRights28/06/12 05:30 AM
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No it isn't- this submission makes /MR look political. He should've specifically attacked unfair policy towards men instead of attacking the bill as a whole.
/r/MensRights28/06/12 05:16 AM
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Going back to what we had is worse than this. Indeed. Previously, you could pay insurance fees for 40 years just to be denied care for unfair reasons like "preexisting conditions." (You'd be left to die, to further profit already rich people.) Anyways. . . I'm only posting this (political) comment because the republican crowd is so loud that I feel we must show some diversity. I'd prefer if people originally left politics out of /MR. ie, if the bill is unfair to men, that alone should be the foc…
/r/MensRights28/06/12 05:05 AM
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Indeed. Frankly, this political stuff is a distraction from advocacy of men's human rights. The submitter should've focused just on the potential unfair treatment of men.
/r/MensRights28/06/12 04:55 AM
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The comic is about how a man can try to be responsible (but be lied to and tricked with a fake ID) and be treated just like someone who violently rapes children. Being mislead by a young woman who lies about her age (and even provides fraudulent documentation) is not the same as violent rape and it should not be treated like such.
/r/MensRights20/03/12 12:43 AM
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Link is broken. The comic is here: http://themilitant.org/neo-feminism.php The comic is about how a man can try to be responsible (but be lied to and tricked with a fake ID) and be treated just like someone who violently rapes children. Being mislead by a young woman who lies about her age (and even provides fraudulent documentation) is not the same as violent rape and it should not be treated like such.
/r/MensRights20/03/12 12:32 AM
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I'm not an anarchist. I do socialize with anarchists (mostly because they're real activists), & that interests me.
/r/MensRights07/02/12 06:19 PM
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If there's a psycho who self-inflicts wounds to blame the other, then it will come out. You are dangerously ignorant, & I hope you never vote. What you're ignorant about, is psychos. They can act just like everyone else when they want to.
/r/MensRights27/01/12 05:22 PM
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I read somewhere, that in China the police generally assume both parties are at fault. Of course that's still horrible, but better than just targeting the man.
/r/MensRights27/01/12 03:00 AM
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How vague. That long rant could be replaced by "If there's obvious injuries, then there should be an arrest." This would be a decent policy, but if we want a truly good legal system we'll need better technology: people will have to arm themselves with tiny (hidden) cameras. Obviously a psycho woman will occasionally fall & get a bruise. . . Every time they'll have an opportunity to frame some innocent guy for it.
/r/MensRights27/01/12 02:49 AM
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given they break no laws. There are laws that make it illegal to have a school just for whites. The whole debate here is whether those are good laws. If you think it's fine to allow the exclusion of blacks, then you should be the one to have to explain to a small minority child why others think they're so inferior that they don't want them near white children. FYI- making racist arguments, then hiding behind "libertarian" propaganda, is still racist.
/r/MensRights23/01/12 12:34 PM
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Actually, it's still discrimination when private groups do it. Discrimination (noun): 1) The unjust or prejudicial treatment of different categories of people or things, esp. on the grounds of race, age, or sex.
/r/MensRights23/01/12 10:38 AM
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Ron Paul proved his ignorance of the constitution when he said "The notion of a rigid separation between church and state has no basis in either the text of the Constitution or the writings of our Founding Fathers." Of course, any non-ignorant person realizes it was Thomas Jefferson who used the term separation of church & state to describe the constitution.
/r/MensRights09/01/12 03:43 AM
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Ron Paul proved his ignorance of the constitution when he said "The notion of a rigid separation between church and state has no basis in either the text of the Constitution or the writings of our Founding Fathers." Of course, any non-ignorant person realizes it was Thomas Jefferson who used the term separation of church & state to describe the constitution.
/r/MensRights09/01/12 03:18 AM
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Ron Paul, who denies separation of church & state, does not understand the constitution. He's just another ignorant tool of the upper classes.
/r/MensRights09/01/12 03:03 AM
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Downvoted, this site forced a bunch of pop-up windows asking me to install an older version of java.
/r/MensRights19/11/11 08:05 PM
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The fact that you say you were censored at -4, yet have since received another -5, proves that you were not censored. No, you just failed to read how reddit works. The number of downvotes which controls censorship is different depending on user settings. Plus sometimes people will click-open, but generally downvoted comments stop being seen. (Especially in big threads, like in the political subreddits.) If you can't admit that's censorship you're just a dishonest person. It may not be visible by…
/r/MensRights13/10/11 09:46 PM
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At -4, to most people, it becomes censored. . . . I see my comment is at -9, and now censored. God damn I rarely curse but you are one stupid mother fucker.
/r/MensRights13/10/11 09:13 PM
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anarchism !!!111! Please leave your general politics outside of r/MensRights.
/r/MensRights13/10/11 01:21 PM
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Downvoting is still censorship. If you're only talking about a few posts (which you disagree with), just ignore them.
/r/MensRights13/10/11 01:11 PM
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This article ignores how men still dominate many math/hard-science classes. Therefore while a male plays more video games, he also takes more difficult classes. And gaming is great in many ways. These kids could be developing their reflexes & such- it shouldn't be seen as a waste of time. Also, there's very book-like story-based games like Planescape Torment. (Which is life-changing good, imo.)
/r/MensRights07/10/11 02:46 AM
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I see nothing- at http://www.reddit.com/r/mensrights/new/ - it says "there doesn't seem to be anything here." wtf?
/r/MensRights02/10/11 05:18 PM
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If some libertarians voted for GWB the first time, it was only because he promised to scale back U.S. intervention overseas, "the real news is 2004. The libertarian vote for Bush dropped from 72 to 59 percent" (72% in 2000)" -- http://cato.org/pub_display.php?pub_id=6735 just like Obama did, and some libertarians voted for Obama, too. In both cases, no libertarians vote for re-election for war-mongers. "the real news is 2004. The libertarian vote for Bush dropped from 72 to 59 percent" (72% in 2…
/r/MensRights26/09/11 03:12 AM
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A "small" authoritarian government can be even worse. All ownership systems are forceful & authoritarian. If the purpose of ownership/property is so non-working rich people can "extract value" from other people's work, then it's just another parasitic police state. (But with less services for the weak, ill, injured, etc.) In contrast, if the purpose of property is to ensure all people can have land, start a business, build a home, etc (a more democratic distribution of of land/property/etc) then…
/r/MensRights26/09/11 02:49 AM
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Utter bullshit. When republicans have had the highest spending administrations, calling leftists "big government" is an attempt to portray the right as the opposite. This guy will claim he's not on the right, but a "libertarian." Guess who libertarians elected & reelected? George Bush. "the real news is 2004. The libertarian vote for Bush dropped from 72 to 59 percent" (72% in 2000)" -- http://cato.org/pub_display.php?pub_id=6735
/r/MensRights26/09/11 02:37 AM
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You turned it into a left vs right, stupid. I never mentioned the right, only the left. That's silly. If you're making stereotypes about the left, then logically, you're making a comparison to someone. Also left and right do not equate to Democrat and Republican. Actually, they pretty much do. Look at how "libertarians" throw away their principles & vote for whoever promises the most tax cuts. They claim they're different, but in terms of votes, they're just more republican/right-wing votes. eg,…
/r/MensRights25/09/11 05:35 AM
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I'd probably vote for Lenin.
/r/MensRights25/09/11 05:09 AM
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1) Please stop hurting Men's Rights by turning it into a 'left vs right' thing. 2) FYI: big government, according to the biggest spenders in history, is a republican thing. Of course I'm talking about Bush & Reagan. 3) In contrast, if you'd read Marx you'd realize he believed that once society became more just (like rewarding work instead of ownership) that society wouldn't need a large government. (Large governments could be abolished.) Consider this contrasting example: Capitalist: "I admit, w…
/r/MensRights25/09/11 04:54 AM
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I said: I don't consider this feminist. Not "everything she's ever done."
/r/MensRights22/09/11 02:25 AM
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we actually read feminist lit around here. I don't consider this feminist. It's just some woman talking about female sexuality. . .
/r/MensRights21/09/11 09:37 PM

While it's too silly, you have to give them credit for making it enjoyable. What M.R. doesn't need is a documentary so boring that no one watches it.
/r/MensRights30/08/11 08:54 PM

all it proves is that the wrong person was identified. They were CONVICTED. "Convicted by Juries, Exonerated by Science: Case Studies in the Use of DNA Evidence to Establish Innocence After Trial" This source does show that women lie about rape- they point at a man & claim he raped her. Even if she can't remember who, she's lying by pretending she can identify the rapist. This source also shows how fake our "justice system" is by convicting so many innocent people in the first place.
/r/MensRights31/05/11 03:24 AM
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