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Very true.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/22 08:21 AM
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Well, my point was that I'm personally fine with their views on sex. My issue is their views on just about everything else lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/22 08:15 AM
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I've actually tried this. I'm not a super sexual person. I don't really care if I have sex out of procreation, to be honest. But the problem with the church is that they're pretty hardcore with their tithing settlements. I don't want to give a percentage of my net worth to the church every year. Also, American religious people tend to be antivaxxers and anti-science in general. Not great these days.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/22 08:05 AM
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Again, red pill men openly admit they support rape. Who's doing that? Not me.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/22 07:44 AM
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Maybe the guy wants a family. It's generally not recommended to have a family with a prostitute.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/22 07:43 AM
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You don't get to have sex with someone that doesn't want to have sex with you just because you are married to them. It's real and it was legal in the US. Again, I'm not going to address the plausibility of "marital rape" and whether or not it's real.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/22 07:37 AM
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No one said anything about radical feminists but OK. I literally said "modern far-left feminists" in the post you responded to. So, yes, someone did say that. Was this another attempt at humor? When did I make an initial attempt at humor?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/22 07:33 AM
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You ever hear of a dowery? They were absolutely sold off. LOL you're trying to make a point, but you don't even understand the basics of your argument. With dowries, the bride's family is actually paying the groom's family to get married. So, by your logic, the men are the ones being sold off. Also marital rape is real. Again, I'm not going to address the plausibility of "marital rape" and whether or not it's real.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/22 07:30 AM
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What are you even trying to say? What is socialism in dating? Bitter incels get assigned women? You're just saying red pill and conservative talking points and acting like it's a valid point. I would consider it to mean a dating landscape similar to what existed before the sexual revolution - socially enforced monogamy. So you admit they would be worse off under whatever it is you're trying to suggest? Would radical feminists be worse off being married to average guy? Yes, probably. They would b…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/22 07:26 AM
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Fair point. It's not healthy here lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/22 02:21 AM
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Awesome. Plenty of time to write a detailed argument as to why you believe gender roles don't exist.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/22 02:18 AM
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Well, I mean you probably shouldn't be on Reddit in the first place if you have a lab report (physics, I'm assuming, based on the details of your post) tomorrow.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/22 02:14 AM
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If a point is clear and obvious, can it be too much effort to put into words?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/22 02:02 AM
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You're smart. You can do it.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/22 01:37 AM
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To anyone reading this, the BassPotato poster blocked me. So I can't respond to that thread. Here is what my follow-up to his line: "Keep it up Ben Shapiro. You sure got me haha." "If you're trying to get people to support socialist causes (which, by definition, is what all socialists should be doing), you're not winning any supporters with statements like this."
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/22 01:35 AM
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Elaborate.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/22 01:33 AM
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Are you sure?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/22 01:29 AM
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Yes you do.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/22 01:20 AM
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Yes you do.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/22 01:13 AM
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Yes there are and they are correct.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/22 01:07 AM
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LOL the fact that you're on Reddit at all on a Wednesday night indicates that you will probably wasting said night. This kind of a response indicates that you don't really have a good understanding of it yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/22 01:06 AM
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Elaborate.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/22 12:52 AM
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Do you actually know anything about past generations? I don't think you do. Marriages were arranged by the parents, meaning that parents signed contracts and exchanged goods. Women were not "sold off to men". They were paired together. Stop with that feminist bullshit and actually do your research. I'm not going to go into the plausibility of the concept of "marital rape" here. But this short response should tell you my feelings on it. You may not be able to force a woman to love you, but, in a …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/22 12:52 AM
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Women's ability to love you certainly can be regulated and it had always been in the past. It's ironic that liberals want to increase regulations on free market business, but decrease regulations on societal values and moral integrity. Basically, they want to increase regulations in situations that hurt them (but benefit others) and decrease regulations in situations that help them (but hurt others). How is this not the definition of irony and hypocrisy?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/22 11:34 PM
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The idea of "equal rights" is basically affirmative action and socialism. If women were more valuable, they would be paid as much as men. Strong-arming employers to hire more women and forcing them to pay them a certain amount is far more socialist than capitalist.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/22 11:30 PM
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It is ironic. Modern far-left feminists want capitalism in dating, but socialism in economics. They only want socialism when it benefits them.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/22 11:28 PM
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You should not be able to negotiate one's value to society either. Your value to an employer should be clear, just like your value to a potential mate should be clear. I agree with you. No form of socialism should exist.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/22 11:27 PM
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I don't think sexual socialism should exist, but I also don't think that economic socialism should exist. That's exactly my point. Neither should exist. Modern feminists, in my experience, seem to be far left in their thinking. So that's how I made that jump.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/22 11:26 PM
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Your comment about divorce rape doesn't even make any sense. A woman who earns as much or almost as much as a man does not qualify for alimony. Shared custody means little to no child support. Feminism is the reason only 10% of divorces these days involve alimony. Feminism is the reason why no fault divorce exists. If it wasn't for feminism, divorces would be far less common. ​ Secondly, he's far more likely to end up in a healthy relationship than you are. Seems to me that you are the one who i…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/22 11:23 PM
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LOL I promise that I won't end up divorced. The fact that you support this poster shows that you don't understand the argument either.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/22 11:15 PM
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Again, you resort to insults because you have no actual argument. You did not address any of my points and you directly contradicted yourself many times and you actually seem to agree with me (you're just not smart enough and too full of yourself to realize it). You also don't know the meaning of many of the words you used (I'm sure you looked up "contrast" and now you're trying to make your statement make sense, but it still doesn't). Again, how old are you? You sound like a little kid.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/22 11:14 PM
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You seem pretty incompetent yourself, as you clearly don’t understand what my point here is. Incompetent at what? Understanding points? You're not even able to use words correctly. Again, you still have not answered my question: how old are you? We both know you are extremely young. Your argument is extremely naive and you come off as not very worldly or educated (despite trying very hard to appear otherwise). I never once implied being an “incel” or a white knight was something men should aspir…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/22 07:49 AM
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False. My grandmother made her own money in the 1930s and owned her own business shortly afterwards. This was always an option for women.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/22 07:03 AM
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I agree. Isn't it ironic that the same feminists who want socialism in the economy don't also want socialism in the relationship sphere?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/22 06:55 AM
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You didn't respond to any of points and are simply going off on a self-righteous rant. You don't know what century we're in and you don't know the difference between "your" and "you're". These are the initial glaring issues in your argument (and leads to certain perceptions about your intelligence). In any event, I think you're about 22 and you probably know absolutely nothing about women, the laws in the US, money, and life itself. That's why you're making this bizarre argument. The fact is tha…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/22 06:53 AM
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Okay then we are in agreement (for the most part).
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/22 06:41 AM
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I don't know a single man married a long time who doesn't agree with me. If your wife cares whether or not you bring excitement, you bring excitement. And whatever the man needs, the wife brings. Happy couples please each other. You're moving the goalposts. Your initial point was: "I've never had a long-term partner get bored with me, because I'm aware you need to keep switching things up to make things exciting." Then you changed your argument to: "And whatever the man needs, the wife brings. H…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/22 06:30 AM
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This will just lead to increased unequal persecution of men (which is already bad). I'm sure women and liberal politicians would love this idea.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/22 06:26 AM
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LOL you're using terms you don't even understand. That's cute. Anyway, back to the original point, maybe your father is just high maintenance for a man and needs your mother to game him. Or maybe your mother is just projecting her need to be gamed onto him. It's hard to say. In any event, my initial point (that men don't need to be gamed and are happy with simple things) still stands.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/22 06:24 AM
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So your dad and grandpa have told you that the only thing that your mom and grandma are good for are cooking, cleaning, and sex? Sure okay. LOL what a stupid comment. No, they don't explicitly say these things. It's clear in their actions. This is literally all they need to be happy in a relationship. The women need much, much more. Considering the fact that I only hit the age of consent for my home state about 5-6 years ago I wouldn't have much to tell you even if I were married. Ah okay. So yo…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/22 06:14 AM
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You are very righteous. This is typically a bad thing (since you people typically don't look out for even your own best interest). Are you at all concerned about the issues that I mentioned previously? I wonder how you'll feel post divorce after your cheating wife grows tired of you and then you lose the money that you've worked so hard for. This is the end game for the modern pro-feminist man. How old are you? You sound young and naive about the world. ETA: Also, we're not in the 20th century. …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/22 06:12 AM
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It's crazy to me that so many men have been brainwashed to act against their own best interests. Do you like the idea of divorce rape? Do you want to lose your kids and most of your money during this time? Do you want to date women who are constantly looking to monkey-branch to something better? Or do you want stability? I value stability, personally.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/22 05:57 AM
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No, but my parents and both sets of grandparents have. Grandparents were married for 50+ years and parents have been married for 40+ years. How long have you been married for (that you are such an expert)?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/22 05:50 AM
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Feminism is what has torn men and women apart, not gender roles. If pre-feminist ideals were reinstated, things will eventually be better for men. There's no question about that.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/22 05:49 AM
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LOL this is clearly written by a feminist. Acceptance of gender roles will set you free. Men and women are different. Deal with it. Patriarchy doesn't exist in the modern US, but if it did, it would be much better for men and would make men happier. The loss of the patriarchy is what is negatively impacting men.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/22 05:32 AM
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This is female projection. Women need to be constantly gamed to stay interested. Men are fine with a woman who cooks, cleans, and has sex with them.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/22 05:29 AM
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This is a stupid mindset and is the problem with modern women. They always needs excitement and project that onto men. Men don't care if you bring excitement. I hope you don't plan on having kids ever.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/22 05:06 AM
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Haha really? Fat people are everywhere. Maybe our definitions of "fat" are different? I've lived on the east coast, west coast, and midwest in small towns and big cities. They're everywhere in the US. I've also lived in Europe and Asia. Far less of an issue in these places.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/22 09:57 PM
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Does any woman actually truly struggle in dating?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/22 09:52 PM
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in the 80s and 90s It sounds like you're a Boomer. Have you considered that the things you're attracted to are not attractive to younger women? For example, my mother (a Boomer) always told me that a hairy chest is attractive and was considered attractive back in the day (probably because of guys like Burt Reynolds). Younger women almost entirely disagree with this statement.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/22 09:50 PM
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You can open up as long as you avoid discussing: any and all insecurities (in my experience, discussing insecurities aloud with anyone is counterproductive anyway - that's what shitposting on Reddit is for). anything illegal you've previously done or are currently doing (she will almost certainly get you arrested if you dump her). Anything else is probably fine.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/22 12:01 AM
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Anecdotes do not equal data. Also, this could largely be the result of the people you surround yourself with. Anecdotally, most people who I know are not as you describe. This is especially true for non-westerners.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/22 06:56 PM
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Do you?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/22 09:32 PM
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First, I don't believe that humans, as a whole, are naturally polygamous or monogamous. I think it varies based on the society and the person. As I previously said, women, especially, will do what society tells them to do without questioning things. Therefore, if you have a shit society, then you have non-monogamous women (which is what we're seeing today in the US). In any event, do you have any actual sources for this? What percentage of people want threesomes? What percentage of people become…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/22 09:31 PM
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Every story relayed in this sub is an anecdote. Do you expect people to share photos of people they personally know on Reddit? That's a bit odd.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/22 09:28 PM
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Go back and read what I said...I said "may", simply to point out that your situation "may" not always have anything to do with your own personal choice, but another's. Fair enough. I'm challenging you to set your bias against women aside, and not think in absolutes here. I have never seen a situation where a western woman becomes a single mother because her husband cheated on her and then left her for another woman. Literally all of the single mothers that I've known were single mothers because …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/22 04:08 PM
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She doesn't have an answer, which is why she didn't respond to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/22 03:39 PM
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Yes, but do you have any sources that study whether human are monogamous or polygamous that clearly show that humans are actually polygamous? You don't. Because that's not what the studies have found. Simply stating "just look around" is an extremely weak argument. In any event, since we're stating our opinions here and not facts, I believe that the reason for the decreasing marriage rate and increase in cheating (neither of which are measurements of polygamy vs. monogamy) is societal decay and …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/22 03:39 PM
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What evidence are you looking for? How can this phenomenon be measured in a way in which it meets the criteria to be published in a peer-reviewed journal?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/22 07:35 AM
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LOL this is a terrible argument. Anecdotal evidence is not a suitable alternative for actual sources. The sources that I've found indicate that the monogamy vs. polygamy is inconclusive at best. Do you have any sources to back up your claims or should I just trust you?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/22 06:37 AM
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Source?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/22 05:36 AM
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Do you have any data for that? Since you made the initial assertive claim (that single motherhood is the result of a married woman being cheated on and abandoned), the onus is on you to provide data. If not then of course this is your opinion. From a logic standpoint, do you honestly believe that the vast majority of struggling single mothers are the result of a man cheating and abandoning the woman, as opposed to unmarried younger people being irresponsible? I will continue to believe that BOTH…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/22 09:24 PM
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Women become single mothers because they don't use contraception in a situation in which contraception should be used to protect pregnancy. I don't think that the vast majority of single mothers end up this way because they are adoring and amazing wives whose husbands cheated on and left them. It's more likely due to irresponsibility.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/22 08:16 PM
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First, you can't be an incel and be sexually active (which I am). Second, women are not all-knowing beings. If they were, how do you explain women who end up in abusive relationships? By your rationale, women in abusive relationships would have to want to be in those relationships. Is that what you're saying?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/22 08:06 PM
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Is that someone you?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/22 08:04 PM
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I never said that the deadbeat dads are blameless. They deserve blame. This in no way negates my original statement.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/22 08:02 PM
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I didn't report any comments. I actually just came off a week ban (which is why I'm just responding to you now). Therefore, I couldn't have reported your comment. Looks like you pissed someone else off though with whatever your original comment stated. ETA: What point are you trying to make with that table?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/22 07:58 PM
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Are humans actually a polygamous species though?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/22 07:56 PM
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That's where I'm from, not where my current residence is. My current residence is in a swing state.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/22 03:52 AM
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Whoever said that no women want to fuck me? Who said that I'm not getting laid? Plenty of woman haters get laid. As a woman, you should know that.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/22 03:36 AM
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That's why women should wait a while before having a baby with someone. If she hasn't known him long enough for her to be able to see red flags, she should be using contraception.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/22 03:30 AM
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I know a bit about marketing, yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/22 03:22 AM
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It's from a previous conversation that I had with her. I'm actually pretty much trolling her here.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/22 03:20 AM
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Good idea. You could be one of those dancing sign people advertising on highways.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/22 03:10 AM
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All the kids are on it these days.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/22 03:05 AM
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You can advertise for members on Tiktok.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/22 03:03 AM
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Most older men just want to do their own thing and don't give a shit about what others think of them. They're not trying to manipulate 20 year old men unless they're gay.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/22 03:03 AM
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You should create one and be its leader.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/22 02:59 AM
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Who would be manipulating them? You'd need someone to take the lead for that to happen.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/22 02:58 AM
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Is it a kink for you?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/22 02:56 AM
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Where did I say that women are more lonely single? I simply said that women all want the same kind of guy and there's only so many of them to go around. Otherwise, they stay single or settle. I personally think that all American women should stay single. It would be best for everybody if they chose to do that.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/22 02:55 AM
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Interesting. Tell me more.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/22 02:52 AM
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I bet you do. The smartest men need that. Fixed that for you. You're welcome.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/22 02:50 AM
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I don't know what that means. Asia is to find a wife, obviously.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/22 02:49 AM
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It's delusional to expect women to take responsibility for their actions and to expect them to use one of an assortment of available birth control options? Interesting.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/22 02:48 AM
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Look, there's a male feminist. Does pussy pandering get you laid bro?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/22 02:46 AM
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Yeah and I hope for sharia law to come to the US. Let's see which one happens first.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/22 02:45 AM
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You're not entitled to women's bodies Whoever said that I was? I haven't said that in this thread nor in any of the other threads that I've posted in. and there are plenty of shitty men who fuck up plenty of relationships. A real problem is men pretending to be something they are not to get sex and then show their true colors after they get what they want is a deceiver. Women shouldn't fall for it. If they want to fuck the guy without knowing him well, use contraception. It's everywhere and ther…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/22 02:44 AM
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There isn't, not for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/22 02:38 AM
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Thanks. :)
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/22 02:38 AM
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You seem nice, but naive. Best of luck to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/22 02:35 AM
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Women should have picked better men if that's what's happening to them. Did you know that China actually fines single mothers? I think we should start doing that here. Hopefully, the Republicans can make that happen.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/22 02:34 AM
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Unvaccinated and misogynist obviously. So ya know. Praying for covid to continue doing good works. Half right. I'm vaccinated and boosted, but very much a misogynist. Sadly for you, if I get COVID, it'll probably just be some sniffles. :/
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/22 02:32 AM
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I'm a dual Italian citizen. So I plan on heading there next month for the foreseeable future and spending some time with my cousins. Then I'll probably head off to Asia once they relax their COVID rules a bit.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/22 02:31 AM
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I'm HWP and actually from the Northeast (a big liberal city). So, no, I am not a hillbilly from the deep south. I am also not seeking a child bride and my dual citizenship is actually in a wealthy European country. And, of course, I'd flee. I wouldn't want to put myself in danger. What kind of person do you think I am?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/22 02:29 AM
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Not to me. I'll be out of the US soon enough. To women, yes. You'll be happy to know that I take voting very seriously and I make sure to cast each ballot for the most extreme right wing nutjob I can with the hope that they will reduce women's rights. It seems to be working. So that has been exciting.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/22 02:26 AM
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I look forward to a civil war in the US. I'm a dual citizen though so I won't be participating. I will pray for your demise though. ;)
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/22 02:24 AM
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So you're a girl who presumably has girlfriends and you don't know that the vast majority of woman prioritize height over all other attributes? Hahahahaha! You must be a comedian.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/22 02:23 AM
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Harmful to who?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/22 02:22 AM
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That's not a bad thing at all. Good for them.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/22 02:21 AM
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I meant American women. I do leave them alone except at the ballot box, where I vote for extremist right wing politicians who will decrease your rights. :)
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/22 02:20 AM
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what the actual fuck lmao I know, right? It's kind of a pie-in-the-sky dream, but I believe that it can slowly happen. The abortion situation is a promising first step.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/22 02:19 AM
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Any guy that whines about another guy's misogyny is being a pussy.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/22 02:17 AM
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lol are you serious? How old are you? If you're being sincere, you're obviously a dude.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/22 02:16 AM
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I know absolutely no one in Japan (nor do I care to). However, there is something called "herbivore men" that you should Google.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/22 02:12 AM
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What do you think?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/22 02:11 AM
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When did women ever “take anything” and have “no standards”? Women used to be open to dating nice provider guys who were ugly. So you can say that they used to not have any standards. Now men don't have standards because they're desperate. When have men ever not tried to get the hottest woman possible? Currently. Because they're desperate pussies with no self-respect. Pranking seems to comprise a large percentage of male content online That's not real pranking. It's mostly hired actors. Women do…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/22 02:11 AM
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Women are single mothers due to their own poor choices. That's no excuse.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/22 02:07 AM
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I'm responding to every one of your comments. How would you like me to respond? What point do you think I'm trying to make?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/22 01:54 AM
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Young women compete for the hottest man. Young men will take anything and have no standards. Young men are now obsessing over their appearances, while young women are fat and embracing the fat movement (they don't care about their appearance anymore). Nobody does dangerous pranks anymore. Both genders play sports and both obsess over relationships. So, yeah, I'd say there's a significant role reversal.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/22 01:53 AM
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Hmmm....
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/22 01:34 AM
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Don't be a pussy.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/22 01:26 AM
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Yeah only in your dreams though. Meh…I’ve never killed any babies but I’m sure it’ll be good business for drug dealers. So if I’m ever in that predicament I’ll be sure to hit them up if need to. Your sharia law is still quite a fantasy though. I’m not worried. I acknowledge that sharia law in the US is a fantasy, but it is a glorious fantasy. ​ You think I don’t know that? Why would I go through rigorous course work just to sit at home? And living a comfortable lifestyle requires 2 incomes. Don’…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/22 01:17 AM
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Lol republicans are coming for abortion rights, and that is a ways away from sharia law. You’re a clown… It's the first step. In any event, you won't get to kill babies anymore. Does that not upset you? I’m not a white woman though so no tears from me. That's interesting. You act and sound like one. Good thing engineering is always useful so I can go wherever I please. So I guess I do have useful skills. You’re wrong so now what? 😂 Depends what kind of engineering and your job experience. Just h…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/22 01:02 AM
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Nah, not men these days. Young men act like women and young women act like men. So it's the opposite of the way things used to be.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/22 12:58 AM
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It sounds like you're not being misogynistic enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/22 12:57 AM
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What fantasy is that? Republicans are coming for your rights. That's undeniable. It's happening in real time and I love it. I agree that sharia law in the US is just a fantasy, but a man can dream. I just want to see American women suffer simply because it gives me pleasure. I love it when American white women cry. It is literally the best joy that I can think of. In any event, it's clear that you haven't traveled much. Women outside of the west are not as terrible and picky as western women (an…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/22 12:54 AM
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It's not to force women to be with me. It's to make American women suffer, especially women like you. Roe v. Wade is just the first step. We're coming for the rest of your rights afterwards. Also, I won't die alone (if I don't want to). There are plenty of countries out there where this isn't an issue and my financial situation is such that I am able to go anywhere at any time. So don't worry about me. :)
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/22 12:45 AM
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I know that most women feel this way. This is why I encourage all short men and all other men who are treated poorly by women (which is most of them) to vote Republican. You deserve to have your rights taken from you and, if the last several years have taught me anything, it's that we have the power to do that if we vote the right people into office. My goal is sharia law, though I do acknowledge that this is pie-in-the-sky. A man can dream though.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/22 12:37 AM
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That's a non-answer. I want specific traits of a good personality.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/22 12:28 AM
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It should be forced, not chosen. That would be ideal.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/22 12:13 AM
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What's your definition of a good personality? Are you prepared to answer my question yet?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/22 12:12 AM
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There is no male peer pressure anymore. Most young men are pussies and too woke to pressure each other into doing anything. Peer pressure only exists among women now.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/22 12:02 AM
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Mostly women.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/22 12:01 AM
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This describes most women on PPD (aside from the like 5 honest ones).
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/22 12:00 AM
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Relationships still aren't equal. This is true. Women have too many advantages. We need to fix that. I agree with you.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/22 11:56 PM
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All women are hypergamous gold diggers. Of course you don't bring them to a first world country. You need to keep them in the third world so that you can control them.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/22 11:54 PM
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Interesting. I'm surprised. Have you considered just leaving the US? I'm a short white guy and that's what I'm doing.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/22 11:50 PM
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Yeah but 6 feet+ bro. I don't know. I just can't imagine someone with that height having issues no matter what your face looks like. I also don't think race matters at that height.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/22 11:44 PM
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You sound like a big guy. I'm short so I wouldn't have joined in. I probably would have just shot you in the leg. I wouldn't want you to die, just learn a lesson. You're welcome. :)
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/22 11:40 PM
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You really shouldn't be an incel at this height. FYI.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/22 11:37 PM
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Nah, men aren't picky. They can't afford to be.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/22 11:28 PM
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The poor treatment based on my height came first, the lack of validation of my experiences came second, then the vile came. So, as you can see, the vile that I spew is directly caused by the actions of women.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/22 11:05 PM
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Having a wife is fine.....as long as you do so in a place where her rights are limited (and not move her to a place where she has increased rights). If you must move her, then make sure you have your ducts in a row and are able to bail at any moment or send her back. In any event, hopefully, we can get some form of sharia law in the west soon with these radical right wing governments lately. Maybe not, but a man can dream.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/22 11:03 PM
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Yes exactly.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/22 10:57 PM
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If it makes you feel better, I'm a short white guy who likes black women. I think they're a hell of a lot more marriage-material than white women. White women are hideous without makeup and they're just bad people in general. Black women have a natural beauty and usually pretty nice once you get through the barriers they put up (and they put those barriers up for good reason).
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/22 10:57 PM
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I love the idea of abortion being banned so much. It is just fantastic!
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/22 10:54 PM
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Most men are just okay with any woman. They just want someone who loves them. They're not actually settling. Women need a tall, good-looking guy at minimum to be happy (look at yourself as an example). If they can't get him, they will cheat with him if given the opportunity. I can definitely see women crying at night because they had to settle.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/22 10:48 PM
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No incel actually thinks they look like this. But, yes, most probably wish they look like this.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/22 10:45 PM
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Who said that men should feel better about the state of things? They should be angry and fight back. Solve the problem by limiting women's rights.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/22 10:37 PM
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You said that the women will cheat with these guys. I gave a reason why this is not possible in many cases.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/22 10:28 PM
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You're just one woman. Many others will need to settle.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/22 10:27 PM
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It is interesting though, right? Short men are treated worse in society, are paid less, are treated terribly by women (who deny them basic companionship that is granted to all other men), and are more likely to commit suicide. Yet, their feelings are constantly invalidated by women. I blame women and their shallowness for this. This is why I advise all short men to vote Republican. You want to treat us like shit? We don't matter? Just because our legs are shorter than that of other men? Fine. Ha…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/22 10:26 PM
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Thanks. I agree.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/22 10:21 PM
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That's true, but, even then, there are only so many hours in the day for those guys. There aren't enough of them to fuck literally every Chad-slut (aka American woman) out there.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/22 10:17 PM
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You're more likely to do that than show off a short, bald, fat investment banker PhD to your friends.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/22 10:16 PM
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To see how this translates to reality, look at the stats about how short men have less sexual partners, get married less, and have higher rates of suicide than their taller brethren. You and your girl pals have done this to us. Does it feel good?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/22 10:13 PM
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That's less than 1 in 100, but, really, we both know that that shit doesn't matter to women nearly as much as looks and height (if at all).
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/22 10:10 PM
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Yes, I agree. Those women are just virtue signaling. Height is the most important trait to every single woman. But there are not enough 6 foot + guys to go around. So joke's on them.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/22 10:10 PM
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That's roughly equal to the amount of men who exist who are both over 6 feet tall and have very good-looking faces. Coincidence?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/22 10:07 PM
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It's fun to complain about it on Reddit though.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/22 10:06 PM
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Nah, women have always been terrible. Now, they're open about it and men are able to compare notes (via the internet).
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/22 10:06 PM
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Statistically, this isn't possible. There are only so many tall, good-looking guys to go around. We're talking less than 5% of the male population with just these traits alone (and that doesn't even account for women who also require good jobs, exclusivity, and a decent personality). So most women will have to settle or stay single.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/22 10:05 PM
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Thanks. Take care.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/22 09:50 PM
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Women like you deny short men love and affection because their legs aren't long enough. Then you invalidate their feelings when they get upset about it. Terrible.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/22 09:49 PM
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i’m genuinely confused bc i just … admitted ? to the thing ? like i didn’t even deny it my dude and you’re still mad. i have a size kink. i enjoy taller men. i didn’t deny it. but you’re still mad at me over this so maybe it’s not that you want women to actually admit to having this preference. what exactly is it that you want me to do here ? you want me to lie to you ?? others have tried that and it made you mad too so what ? do you suggest You're just a typical American woman. I just wish that…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/22 09:46 PM
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Except even with this suicide idea it’s wrong, the highest demographic of suicide is men over 65. I think I know the study that you're thinking of here, but, to my knowledge, it didn't include the heights of the men. I don't think that there was ever a comparison between age and height when it comes to suicide. ​ There was no evidence shown that it was because they were short, it’s more likely cause they felt unfulfilled in life. Unfortunately, not: https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/15994722/ ​ Ei…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/22 09:41 PM
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All women fetishize tall men. You're nothing special.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/22 09:24 PM
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It sounds like you're just like every other woman who discriminates against short men. Instead, you've come up with a creative reason as to how it doesn't constitute discrimination. Well done, I guess. You're the exact kind of person who is represented in this graphic. I hope you have all sons and they all take after your side of the family in terms of height. You deserve it.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/22 09:23 PM
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It sounds like you're just like every other woman who discriminates against short men. Instead, you've come up with a creative reason as to how it doesn't constitute discrimination. Well done, I guess.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/22 09:15 PM
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It sounds like you're just like every other woman who discriminates against short men. Instead, you've come up with a creative reason as to how it doesn't constitute discrimination. Well done, I guess.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/22 09:15 PM
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Are you arguing that your anecdotal experiences trump data? Just because you don't see something happening (and it's something that you wouldn't really care about anyway since it doesn't affect you) doesn't mean that it isn't happening. Source: I'm a short guy and I know very well what it feels like to be discriminated against for something that is out of my control, while, at the same time, being invalidated for feeling badly about that.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/22 09:12 PM
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Based on what other women told me, lesbians are far more accepting of a short partner than non-lesbians. I think you are making assumptions here based on faulty information. Straight women are far more nasty to short men in general. Lesbians (and trans women) are considered a protected class and, in general, are treated better in dating. Short men are treated very badly. This is from my experience as a short man and from what lesbian women have told me about their experiences. Obviously, I'm not…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/22 08:41 PM
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Short men definitely, statistically, have some of the worst lives in the US. There's a reason why short men commit suicide at rates higher than any other demographic. In any event, how does this translate to short men "thinking they deserve the world"? How do short men act like children?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/22 08:24 PM
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No, I mean I left the US and met women that are not stuck on height (like just about every single American woman is) and it made me realize how terrible American women are as people. My point is that you all deserve to have your rights limited (which the Republicans are currently trying to do) based on your abhorrent behaviors and views on things. I agree that the majority of women in the world are not like that. But the majority of American women (if not damn near all of them) are like that. I'…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/22 08:19 PM
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Aren't you always making angry posts about being discriminated against for being black (even in this thread)? Does that make you a femcel?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/22 08:14 PM
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Oldish short guy here who used to do very, very well with women when I was in college (before OLD) and even in bars and clubs. The problem is the ROI. The amount of work that I had to put in to get the same girls that tall guys got without having to do any work was insane. Not worth it (though it was nice to know that I could do it if I wanted). Then I visited some places outside of the US and was soured on American women forever. I always tell short guys - yes, be bitter towards American women.…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/22 08:04 PM
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So should he or shouldn’t he give this advice? He should give advice based on what he knows, which is not how to attract women since he's only attracted one and that was by accident. What is your opinion on women’s only gyms or establishments? It's fine if men were allowed men's only spaces, which we are generally not. Yeah I keep forgetting you guys hate that sort of stuff. Yes, many normal guys don't like that. It doesn't solve anything and actually can hurt you when it comes to trying to attr…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/22 07:53 PM
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What do you mean?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/22 07:50 PM
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Well, he is certainly not fit to be giving guys advice of any kind. Here's the reason for that: This is a guy who met his wife in college. His wife is the same religion as him. They started hanging out and she basically made the move. He had really no other experience with women beyond that. If this man were to give advice to struggling men, his advice should be "Meet a girl in college, hope she makes a move, then hang on to her for dear life". Not helpful in most situations. Here are the reason…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/22 10:58 AM
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What would you like me to explain? Please answer this very simple question and we can proceed.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/22 10:43 AM
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What would you like me to explain?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/22 09:38 AM
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Jesus, do you have a mental disorder or learning disability or something? What would you like me to explain? It's a very simple question that you can't seem to answer.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/22 09:29 AM
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Stop beating around the bush and deflecting. Give me an exact rundown of what you'd like me to explain.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/22 09:21 AM
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What would you like me to explain?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/22 08:55 AM
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There is no argument. You do not have an argument. You do not have a question. There is nothing to explain.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/22 08:51 AM
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https://sure.nlb.gov.sg/tng/surevivors-activity5/#:~:text=Facts%20will%20also%20be%20unbiased,he%20or%20she%20is%20saying. Too lazy and stupid to Google are we?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/22 08:46 AM
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It looks like we have another male feminist in our midst. Is this pussy pandering getting you laid bro?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/22 08:43 AM
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Again, women say these kinds of things, but they dress it up. They are not as crude, but the meanings are the same.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/22 08:43 AM
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He’s a male feminist. You’re butting into an opinion-based argument and trying to present your opinion as a fact. Ultimately, this is not a man who is worth spending 2 hours of my time on. Do you have an actual argument here or are you unable to present arguments so you just assert your opinions randomly?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/22 08:40 AM
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Of course. I’m a man and a white man at that. Feminists and far-left extremists (which they are) hate that.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/22 11:27 PM
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Feminists don’t care about men. They hate men. That’s why they’re feminists.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/22 11:23 PM
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The thread is public. It’s from around the same time as my post and is about rape in the military or something like that. Do you want me to send you the PMs that I had with these nutjobs? I’m not sure how to do that, but I’m certainly willing to do it. It does have to do with the original point since it’s representative of what you describe as typical feminists (who are actually insane). But I agree with you that feminists are crazy.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/22 11:18 PM
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It wasn’t on that thread. It’s very relevant because it shows how unstable, irrational, and unhinged they are.....unless you think that the typical feminist is unstable, irrational, and unhinged. I agree with you in that case.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/22 11:11 PM
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That’s not what they were arguing in that thread. They blame American military veterans for everything. I’ve had private conversations with the mods. One is a German Jew who holds anti-Semitic views. Not exactly representative of a reasonable sub.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/22 11:06 PM
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I was banned from that sub without ever posting there. Also, that sub is anti-male and anti-American (they also hate veterans there). But, in any event, you just proved my point (even though that post has nothing to do with what we’re discussing right now). Of course, I shouldn’t expect logic and a reasonable argument from a stupid feminist.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/22 11:01 PM
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I think you responded to the wrong person. A woman saying that she won’t date a guy shorter than 5’11 is heightist.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/22 10:57 PM
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Being that I’m a man (and not a pussy feminist man), I’ll get banned from those subs upon posting, no matter what I post. Bad suggestion.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/22 10:52 PM
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That poster is lying. Women do talk like that (maybe not in those exact words). In any event, you should stop being a pussy pandering male feminist.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/22 10:49 PM
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Guys bashing other guys based on race is acceptable by feminist standards. If I bashed women based on race, I would be tarred, feathered, and publicly executed (moderate exaggeration here).
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/22 10:47 PM
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Stop trying to get women to debate on a debate sub. Too much thinking and logic is patriarchy.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/22 10:17 PM
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Stop virtue signaling.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/22 10:12 PM
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Exactly. This is why I don't feel bad for women who are in abusive relationships. If he's so bad, just leave.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/22 10:10 PM
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If women write it, it's okay. Women are allowed to be racist. It's only wrong when men do it.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/22 10:08 PM
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Average age for people to loose their virginity is 17. This is a redundant argument for the sake of slut shaming her. exactly what her post is pointing out. Just because something is average doesn't mean that it's good. She should be studying and not sleeping around. If she spent more time doing what she should be doing, then maybe she'd be able to spell and wouldn't be crazy. Again, where are her parents or other positive role models in her life? If you spent more time reading yourself, maybe y…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/22 07:45 PM
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Were you a virgin at 16? Men expect women to be pure for them. Who will help you loose that v card that you're so desperate to lose. Get the fuck out of here. Holy shit, dude. The education system has failed you. Consider learning how to spell before participating in a debate sub. In any event, I lost my virginity when I was 18 in college. Kids shouldn't be having sex at her age. Maybe she would have less mental issues (as she mentions above) and a better command of the English language if she s…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/22 05:58 PM
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I don't think that's it at all. I obviously can't speak for every single man, but I would have serious concerns that the woman is just settling for me. I'm certainly not a pristine physical specimen and, if a woman is promiscuous, then I would assume that the majority of her hookups were extremely good-looking. I would also have concerns that the woman would not be able to form a bond with me and that it will be easier to jump out of the relationship at the first sign of difficulty. I have consi…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/22 01:04 PM
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Just read the other posts in this thread for further insight. The consensus (from both men and women) is that you’re wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/22 12:45 PM
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You have officially said exactly what I wanted you to admit. You need to be “aware,” not base your entire life around data and act like it’s the end of the world because you fall into x category like you seem to do. That's not what I said at all. The crux of every important decision that a person makes should be based on data. So, actually, I did not officially say what you wanted me to admit, as you so ineloquently put it. Instead, I am stating the opposite. A bit of advice, if you’re going to …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/22 12:29 PM
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Ah, here comes the usual feminist accusation. Color me shocked. I don’t even think you clowns know what a feminist is anymore, just seeing how it’s used on every woman that disagrees with you. Are you not a feminist then? As I said, if you allow science and numbers to dictate your life, what exactly is anyone supposed to tell you? Life is all about science and numbers. It tells us just about everything. It's the reason why we have become so technologically advanced. In this case, the data can gi…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/22 12:12 PM
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If you’re the type of person that allows data to rule your life, than I understand why that data will be so important to you. Oh look, we have a feminist who doesn't believe in science and numbers (and one who also doesn't know the difference between "than" and "then"), yet has the audacity to claim an intellectual higher ground. Color me surprised. ​ If I see data that shows women are more likely to do x, I’m not going to base my entire life around that fear. This is probably the reason why som…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/22 11:52 AM
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Your observations are irrelevant because N=1. Statistical data matters far more. This is what you (and most women) don't seem to understand. Data and statistics matter and are important, which is why I ask you to provide them, as opposed to your own anecdotes. In any event, the questions are extremely valid to my initial assertion (which is what you were responding to). Sure, short men can get into relationships. But what are the quality of those relationships? What does the short man need to do…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/22 11:43 AM
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You’re the one who doesn’t know what the term means despite googling the definition. Let’s try this again, Solipsism is a philosophical idea that only the self exists or can be proven to exist. Because your own mind is personal and ineffable, only you know your thoughts, meaning that all outside experiences can only be experienced by inference. As an example of the difference: Personal experience: "In my personal experience, I have found ..." Solipsism: "My experience is real. Yours are not." or…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/22 11:20 AM
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Guys who want to get married and stay married do care, yes. Guys who just want to fuck you won't care, no.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/22 11:06 AM
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Depends on the location. I'm 5'6. I grew up in the New York City area though. So, while I was always short, I was never super short. However, when I moved out west, I was super short.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/22 11:01 AM
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I like you, man. Have you considered moving abroad?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/22 10:51 AM
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The men on this sub are solipsistic to the core. Again, you don't know what this term even means. How am I and other men on this sub solipsistic? I want a detailed response related to the actual definition of solipsism. All y’all know is what happens in your world, everyone else’s experiences be dammed as we can see in your comments so no, sharing that definition just shows you had no idea what it meant. I literally provided the definition. You still do not seem to understand what it means and y…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/22 10:44 AM
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You should still be a virgin at your age. Where are your parents?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/22 10:34 AM
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The definition of solipsism is as follows: "the view or theory that the self is all that can be known to exist". I doubt that you knew that. Otherwise, you would not have included it in your response since it doesn't make sense. Now, as I previously said, do you have an actual evidence-based argument here? You did not answer any of the questions I posed and, again, your response is woefully inadequate. You are simply spouting off platitudes. Go to r/dating for that. This is a debate sub. Please …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/22 10:25 AM
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Yikes. Are you a guy? I agree that these women are fun to date and have sex with, but they're not good for long-term relationships or marriage. It's definitely less work to get laid in other countries, but I think guys only looking for that should stay in the US. It's much harder to find a marriage-minded American woman with good values who doesn't have loads of other problems (financial debt, emotional problems, etc.).
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/22 10:14 AM
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Man, the first time I traveled out of the west was a revelation. Since then, I've worked tirelessly to get into a financial situation that allows me to get out and stay out of the west. Finally, almost 10 years later, I'm in a position to do so. Every guy I know who I advised to do this and actually have done it see the errors in their previous beliefs. Many of these countries feel like completely different planets.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/22 10:08 AM
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Again, you don't make any points here that are backed up by objective facts. What is a "great personality"? How do you define that? Also, simply getting into a relationship is not sufficient for most people. Is this a quality relationship? Is the partner even remotely attractive? How much effort does it take for him to get into and maintain said relationship? Can the relationship sustain hardships? Of course, you are a woman (who is probably heightist like most women) and you have a superficial …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/22 10:01 AM
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Nah it’s not. Short men are regularly discriminated against in dating. To be successful in dating as a short man in the west, the man needs to be exceptional in all other ways. Like just about all other women, you don’t understand and simply spout platitudes about what it’s like to be a short man and other things you know nothing about.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/22 09:35 AM
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Probably. Guess we’re boomers now lol
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/21 04:30 PM
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Yes it will. We will definitely get to a point where we'll have sex robots that are capable of replicating every human behavior and provide the same emotions as other humans. We're not there yet, but we'll get there in our lifetime.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/21 04:04 PM
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Call me old fashioned, but I prefer just jerking off to streaming internet porn.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/21 03:54 PM
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Great post. This is why I'm very happy to not be marrying an American girl in America. Children need a strong work ethic and discipline. Congrats on your successes in life.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/21 06:52 AM
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Oh yeah. They don't care nearly as much about height. Money and whiteness are far more important than height in these countries.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/21 01:50 AM
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It is absolutely better in other countries. It’s better in other countries because I’m white (and it’s actually a goal of many non-American, non-white women to have babies with white guys - this is especially true in Asia and Africa). Also, the massive poverty and wealth inequality of these countries certainly help men with some coin to their names.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/21 01:39 AM
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Asia isn't like that man lol. And even the places that somewhat are, they aren't nearly as bad as the American media paints them to be (I know from experience). Casual sex is very prevalent in many of these countries and these women love white men. As far as the job thing goes, fair enough. Plenty of work is online nowadays and it's never been easier to start an online business (I'm a digital nomad, myself). In some countries, you can get by with just English. In other countries, it is beneficia…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/21 01:22 AM
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This is just a woman thing. They tend to disappear when you destroy their arguments (and their arguments are usually very weak).
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/21 01:10 AM
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Oh yeah. I think I was on OLD for a total of about a week over the years. It's clear that OLD is no place for short guys and, since dating primarily seems to be online now, dating in the US is also no place for short guys. Have you tried exploring other countries? I think you'd be pleasantly surprised. I moved to Europe and I'm just hanging out in Italy until the Philippines finally opens.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/21 01:09 AM
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Oh yeah, I agree. With that said, I have slept with girls after just talking to them for a few minutes. However, I'm in my mid-30s. This occurred before online dating was a thing in my early to mid 20s. If I knew then what I know now, I wouldn't have even put myself in those kinds of positions. I wouldn't have bothered. I feel like men, as a whole, didn't have a good understanding of the true nature of women's attraction until OLD was widely used and analyzed.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/21 12:41 AM
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Maybe, but, in my experience, if they take more than 30 or so minutes to respond, you probably won't get one.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/21 12:39 AM
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100% agreed.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/21 12:32 AM
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Haha no response from that poster. Surprised?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/21 12:25 AM
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It's bad. I wouldn't wish being short in the US on my worst enemy, though maybe we'd face less discrimination if more people got a sense of what it's like.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/21 12:21 AM
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I'm your height and used to be involved in the PUA community. I used to get tons of ass at clubs (multiple make outs per night with different women and sometimes sex). So it's definitely doable. Of course, I do have a good-looking face. With that said, I certainly was unfairly limited due to my height and had to put in more work than I would have if I were taller. This is why I stopped doing all of that. The ROI just wasn't there for me (especially since I hate bars and clubs).
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/21 12:20 AM
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The problem is that when men do discuss this (and this is discussed often), they are just called incels and ignored. I think most men know and understand that it's their looks, not their personality, that is usually holding them back.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/21 12:05 AM
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Short men are regularly discriminated against in all aspects of life. Source: https://opencommons.uconn.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1432&context=law_review Negative life experiences and the effects of these experiences make men more likely to be radicalized. Source: https://www.rand.org/pubs/research_briefs/RBA1071-1.html
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/21 09:06 PM
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It’s this time of invalidation that draws men into these groups. Do you seriously believe that short men are not at a significant disadvantage and are not ridiculed for their heights? You’d better have a source when making such a strong claim. Because there’s a mountain of evidence that disagrees with you.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/21 08:27 PM
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Translation: I don’t have time to watch it, but he is a male feminist so it’s unlikely to amount to much anyway. Do you have anything to add to the conversation or any argument at all? No. So who’s the idiot?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/21 08:24 PM
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Honestly, I don’t think even THAT much thought goes into it. It’s literally an non-personalized pseudo-response that takes slightly more effort than not responding at all. ETA: Upon further consideration, it is sometimes used as a thoughtless insult. It really depends on the context.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/21 01:36 PM
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Women are very nasty and superficial when it comes to dating. Do you think it's unexpected that men, who consistently get lambasted and shamed for things out of their control, would be vulnerable to red pill ideology (which, ultimately, can lead to conspiratorial thinking and participation in far right groups)?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/21 12:12 PM
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What's the ROI on this strategy?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/21 11:56 AM
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What does "work on yourself" and "be a better you" actually mean?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/21 11:07 AM
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Nah I’m busy with something right now. Maybe I’ll watch it later.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/21 11:00 AM
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100% agreed.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/21 10:51 AM
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You're a woman, right? So of course you'd say that. Watch his video on misogyny and get back to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/21 10:50 AM
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Agreed. You can't trust western white women. It's always fun to bash on the privileged. Welcome home, brother. :)
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/21 10:19 AM
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I'm in my mid-30s now. When I was in my early 20s, I was involved with PUA communities. There were tons of ASD guys in those groups, who ended up getting good results with practice. I'm not sure if those communities still exist (I haven't been involved with them for many years now) or how viable they would be the advent of online dating, but have you considered searching them out?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/21 10:14 AM
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It's an easy cop out answer that doesn't require critical thinking. That's all.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/21 10:09 AM
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I follow this guy (initially just out of curiosity, now I watch his videos occasionally for entertainment purposes), but I don't think he's good for young men who need help to follow. He's too much of a male feminist, in my opinion, and he sides too much with women.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/21 10:07 AM
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You are claiming that hypergamy is something that it is not. Then you're getting in a tizzy when someone calls you out on your misunderstanding of the word and concept. This misunderstanding (and inability to acknowledge and learn from your mistake) is your problem, not mine. Again, this is a debate sub. Provide a source that hypergamy is what you seem to think it is. This isn't rocket science.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/21 08:01 AM
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How so? Do you have a source for your (very-easy-to-disprove) original claim? Do you understand that this is a debate sub and that you should be able to back up your claims with evidence and, ideally, logic?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/21 07:53 AM
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There is no such thing as a "nuanced concept" when discussing a word that has a literal definition. Hypergamy does not mean "trading up". There is no "boiling down" or "being purposefully dense". It is a word that is defined by the standards of language. The fact that you don't understand this simple concept says more about your intelligence than it does about mine. The only thing that would give you a leg to stand on in this argument is if you can provide a legitimate source that states that hy…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/21 07:43 AM
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I've literally defined "hypergamy" for you. Feel free to Google it for confirmation. I could take a lamp and call it a fan. Does that make the lamp a fan? Of course not. You can't just take defined words and assign your own meanings to them. That's not how English (or any other language) works. A man dating a hotter woman is not an example of him being hypergamous, by definition. If anything, it's likely an example of the woman being hypergamous (dating an older, uglier guy because he has money)…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/21 07:26 AM
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Your example is not an example of hypergamy. Here is the literal definition of hypergamy: "The action of marrying or forming a sexual relationship with a person of a superior sociological or educational background." Therefore, in your case, the man is actually being hypogamous (and the woman is being hypergamous). It supports OP's hypothesis. Also, before you say it, there is not a "red pill definition of hypergamy" (as I've seen mentioned various times in this thread). There is simply one defin…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/21 07:06 AM
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I don’t think women would care if non-Chads dropped out of the dating scene. In fact, they probably want this to happen (since they consider them creeps anyway). And the non-Chads would be better off too. Instead of facing constant rejection and bullshit, they can just be happy the way they are. In any event, my definition of unattractive is a non-Chad since, in my observations, women just settle for these guys.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/21 02:08 AM
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I did look it up on Google. What you say isn’t true based on all sources that I’ve found.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/21 06:48 AM
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I'm sure Swedish men are probably considered the most attractive men in the world given their height, but I've never heard Swedish women called the most attractive. Do you have a source for that?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/21 08:40 AM
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I’ve never heard that.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/21 08:05 AM
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Fair enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/21 04:39 PM
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Or that could just lead to more women simply parroting what they were taught by their poly sci professor without thinking further into it. DISCLAIMER: I have multiple degrees. So I'm not an uneducated guy shitting on education. This is just what I've found in my experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/21 04:21 PM
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Meaning that it’s not that hard to find a woman that can hold an intelligent conversation. College is relatively easy. Graduating from college does not make one intelligent and does not mean that they are capable of intelligent conversation.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/21 04:09 PM
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Source?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/21 10:01 PM
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Of course. But no-fault divorce was not created to benefit children. It was created to benefit selfish women who want out of a contract without any justifiable reason.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/21 09:42 PM
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Very true.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen16/10/21 08:35 PM
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That's correct. I'm in my mid-30s. What changed the game for me was when I got involved in PUA in my late teens/early 20s (when it was a thing that was mostly underground) and working as a club promoter and bartender. My N count and experience with women went through the roof during that time. High school sports did absolutely nothing for me and my military experience, I think, actually hurt me in the dating world (though it did help me in other aspects).
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/21 07:54 PM
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No. My romantic life has been okay because of my good-looking face. It would have been really good if I was average height or tall (I'm short). I definitely don't think that those experiences played any part in my romantic endeavors.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/21 07:43 PM
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I played little league, junior varsity, and varsity sports and was an active duty military officer. While I don’t participate in any manospherian forums, my beliefs certainly align with them.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/21 09:08 AM
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Okay gotcha
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/21 08:58 AM
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I don’t understand how this relates to my post. Can you elaborate?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/21 08:48 AM
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I think you replied to the wrong poster lol
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/21 08:45 AM
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Agreed. It doesn’t matter either way.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/21 08:18 AM
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That's in the average range. I'm 5'6. That's short.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/21 08:17 AM
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Statistically, under 5'8 in the US is short, 5'8-5'11 is average, 6'0+ is tall.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/21 08:16 AM
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That's fair, but, either way, I think the best advice to guys who do not have an advantage trait (height or looks) is to just create an online stream of revenue (ideally passive) and then just move abroad for women. Why put in all of that effort just to get an average or below average woman in the US?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/21 04:15 PM
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No you can't change your height. An incredibly invasive surgery that at best gains you 2 to 3 inches is not indicative of height being a mutable characteristic. Mutable traits are balding, acne, fitness, and confidence/personality. Height, dick, face are not. The definition of mutable is literally "ability to be changed". I agree that cosmetic surgery to get taller is a bad idea, but it is something that can be changed. Also, with the advances in the surgery, it is possible to gain significant h…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/21 04:12 PM
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> There use to be that trope from older times, that if you work up the courage to hit on a very attractive women you would have a good chance of being successful since no men were actually approaching her because they were intimidated. This was actually true pretty recently. I'm in my mid-30s. I used to be hardcore into PUA when I was in my early 20s. I couldn't believe the girls that I would get simply by approaching. With how things have changed though, there is no chance that this would happe…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/21 02:43 AM
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Now you lost me. Why is my opinion invalid because i have a height advantage? That doesnt change the fact that you should have pics of your face clear on your profile, that you should have hobby/action pics, that you should have pics with your friends doing stuff or maybe with girls in a group, and that you should have a fitness pic as well. Now, if i were to say "do XYZ and you can expect just as much success" then that would be wrong. I believe that I've seen your posts in the past (especially…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/21 02:20 AM
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The other things are simply immutable characteristics. It's like race or penis size. Why are they being compared to a mutable characteristic? No, you're making a mistake comparing height to weight in terms of effort to change. because you CANT change height. A better comparison might be weight to skin care or haircut or fashion sense Well, you can change height and, therefore, by definition, it is not immutable. Is changing one's height with the current technology a good idea? Not in my opinion,…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/21 02:13 AM
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That’s fair. But I still don’t think that tall guys should be giving advice to regular guys about online dating (which was my initial point that you responded to). By doing so, you are giving them false hope as to what it’s like, while you (clearly) know good and well that you hold a significant advantage over them.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/21 01:42 AM
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Relatively to what? For most people losing weight is harder than any other endeavor in their entire lives except maybe college or grad school. Relative to the other primary things that make men attractive (changing one's face and changing one's height). But it's easier than many other things too. If you're comparing it to height surgery then sure but who gets height surgery? Who even considers it? Most people don't consider it. My point is that it's easier to change your weight than it is to cha…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/21 01:35 AM
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It sounds like you did poorly because you were fat, not because you were ugly. In any event, who do you think would do better in the dating world: a 6'3 guy with an average face or a 5'6 guy with an above average face?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/21 01:28 AM
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My initial statement was that losing weight is RELATIVELY minimal effort. Relative to what, you ask? Relative to the other things that women primarily find attractive (height and face). And, really, just don't get fat to begin with. I've never had to lose more than 10 pounds at a time. Why? Because I've never allowed myself to gain more weight than that.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/21 01:22 AM
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Nah, height matters the most, by far. Face is second. So it sounds like your only problem is your weight. Again, easily fixable. Just work out more and eat less. Incels (which I've seen you deriding here in the past) are ugly and/or short. There are no easy fixes for these problems.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/21 11:21 PM
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It's a lot less effort than a short guy having to break his legs to get taller or an ugly guy having to have plastic surgery to be good-looking. So it is relatively minimal effort compared to fixing one's fixed genetics.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/21 11:19 PM
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Yeah that’s my though. Even if it makes sense to them early on, you’d think that they would change strategies when they realize it isn’t working.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/21 10:48 PM
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True.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/21 09:37 PM
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That’s questionable. Black women are low key into white guys too from my experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/21 08:23 PM
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Yeah. I say just let the guys have their VR porn. Maybe it will prevent some mass shootings.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/21 08:20 PM
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Yeah, I never understood why guys do all of that. Seems very counterintuitive to me (always has - even when I was a teenager).
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/21 08:19 PM
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Yeah, that’s pretty much what I heard from a close friend who spent time in Japan. Might be worth a visit.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/21 08:18 PM
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The rest was not necessary. You just made it more complicated than it needed to be. Once your tall and not fat (and as long as you have a full head of hair), you can get girls while being significantly below average in most other areas.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/21 08:17 PM
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But it’s easy enough (or at least within the realm of human possibility) to lose weight. Being fat is volcel. Being short is (in many cases) incel.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/21 08:15 PM
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No shit. Obviously, you can’t be fat. You were wasting your genetics. Now you aren’t and you have the most important, most desirable trait to western women. It’s obvious why you do so well online now based on this information.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/21 08:13 PM
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They don’t, but they can with relatively minimal effort.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/21 08:09 PM
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That’s a fair point. I hadn’t consider that aspect of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/21 06:55 AM
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Well yeah. Fat guys won’t get dates. All you had to do was lose weight. And, being 6’2, the rest took care of itself. Most guys don’t have that luxury.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/21 06:54 AM
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Apple and oranges. Prostitution is illegal and stigmatized in the US. It's also expensive and adds up quickly (so the guy would have to be rich, in which case he has a better chance at finding a girl anyway). Look at sugar dating. I would say that that has taken off. VR porn will probably be pretty cheap and affordable for the average income earner. I can see it being way more popular than prostitution once the technology improves.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/21 06:51 AM
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I would think that the guys that would use this are primarily guys that can't get laid. I'm pretty sure the poor guys don't have a chance with non-VR women to begin with.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/21 06:44 AM
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I feel bad for Zoomer guys, personally. I don't think they have much of a chance. I'm just happy that I grew up in a time before OLD. Women seemed to have more reasonable standards when I was in college (and dated A LOT).
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/21 06:38 AM
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Of course women aren't hurting for companionship. Men are. So let the lonely men have their VR porn and allow them to live in peace.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/21 06:36 AM
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Will it? The guys that will be doing that will just be the unattractive guys that already are not making any dent.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/21 06:33 AM
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How's the dating scene in Japan? I've never considered going there because of the massive amounts of herbivore men (my rationale was that 70% of the male population can't be wrong). But maybe my logic is wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/21 06:27 AM
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This whole thread is nonsense. He's 6'2. That's why he gets girls.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/21 06:24 AM
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I am 6"2 This is the reason why you get matches. Most guys aren't 6'2. /thread
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/21 06:22 AM
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This is highly dependent on the man and his personal genetic fortune. All men have a ceiling based on their DNA. One can lose 300 pounds and see a big difference in their dating success if they are decent looking and on the taller side. A short guy can't just grow 6 inches (and 25% of men are short).
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/21 06:18 AM
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Obviously, I can't speak for others behind closed doors, but I've never cheated despite having ample opportunities when in relationships. Unfortunately, it's really hard to speak for others in this situation since we can't know what anybody around us is doing with 100% certainty. As far as "abusive" and "controlling", this can be subjective. Some people view "controlling" as getting angry when the girl is going to hang out alone with an ex-boyfriend. By "abusive", do you mean physically abusive?…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/21 09:05 PM
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You need to get your story straight. On one thread you're responding to me by saying that guys should marry American women. On another thread, you're saying to go to other countries for women because American women are too fat. Anyway..... ​ Dude. The vast majority of the women around here are 5'7'' to 6 feet tall, with the 5'7'' women being 110lbs and the 6feet tall women being 140lbs at most; full lips, thick, lush, shiny hair, straight white teeth, clear skin, huge eyes. The women are for the…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/21 07:46 PM
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I can't find the specific thread that I'm thinking about (it was probably a sub that I was linked to through another sub, but one that I'm not actually subbed to). In any event, how would I even know about this if I didn't hear it from women somewhere? I will keep looking for a source for you, but it seems like other responders have some sources too.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/21 07:33 PM
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I have no idea either way. So I can't comment. Either way, reading it was concerning and it really showed me the benefit of avoiding high N count women.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/21 07:31 PM
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That's an option too. I wouldn't sign a birth certificate until paternity is confirmed without a doubt.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/21 07:29 PM
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Dick size is not that important for slaying puss Obviously. Where did I say that it was?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/21 07:28 PM
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I'm going to refrain from commenting on your intelligence after these ridiculous posts, but it is certainly not the only implication. The implication is that she experiences the much larger dick and has multiple orgasms. Then when she experiences smaller dicks, she now knows that they don't please her as much as the larger dick. So she goes out in search of this pleasure from the larger dick. This can lead to cheating, divorce, and possible paternity fraud. Ultimately, from a risk/benefit standp…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/21 07:26 PM
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I'm 6 and change and I've never had a woman seem displeased by it. I'm just going by what I've read and I can't unsee that lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/21 07:22 PM
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I find it very difficult to believe that a woman is not able to find an abusive, controlling, or cheat man who she is also attracted to. To me, that indicates that the woman is only attracted to bad boys or incredibly good-looking guys. Most men are not liars, abusive cheaters.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/21 07:19 PM
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I don't know the statistics on that lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/21 07:16 PM
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I've never personally experienced this sentiment IRL, but I'm not surprised that other guys have based on what I read and the general consensus among the women responding.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/21 07:15 PM
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Obviously. I never said that it did. What a stupid response.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/21 07:13 PM
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Yeah there were a few girls that said that. It seems like most felt the way that I describe. They talk about thing like “cervix orgasms” and “feeling full”. Very vulgar stuff, but educational.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/21 10:37 AM
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Indonesia is reasonable. If you want to get married in the US, I think you (you personally) should do it.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/21 10:31 AM
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Bizarre response.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/21 10:29 AM
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Absolutely. Women care about height, face, hair, and dick size (I was not aware of the last one until I started reading female-dominated subs on reddit). These are unchangeable, for the most part. Men mostly just want a skinny girl who is kind and caring. This is easily controllable for women, but, sadly, seems to be too much to ask for most of them.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/21 10:06 AM
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Marriage is fine. Just don't do it in the US. And, if you have kids, get a paternity upon birth (easy enough to do with the online DNA testing companies).
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/21 09:51 AM
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That's true. But even bigger concerns are cheating, divorce rape, and paternity fraud. Because these days, if a woman is not sexually satisfied by her man, she'll look somewhere else for that satisfaction without a second thought.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/21 09:41 AM
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Yeah, based on what I've read in female dominated subreddits, I would be more concerned if a girl previously had sex with a guy with a really big dick more than his attractiveness level. Based on what I've read, once a girl has had 8+ inches, she can't be satisfied by the average dick anymore. Either way, that's as good a reason as any to avoid high N count women (more likely to have had a big dick; therefore, less likely to be sexually satisfied by me; therefore, more likely to cheat).
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/21 09:38 AM
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No one is oppressing you. Sleep with whoever you want. But, if you do that, you may end up trying to settle down with a guy who doesn't like that. He may even break up with you over it, which is his right. It just means that you two aren't compatible. Personally, I believe that a person's past makes them who they are today. I've chosen not to date women and have broke up with women over things that have happened long before I met them. But I am entitled to do that, just like they are entitled to…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/21 09:32 AM
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If you ever check out dating forums or female dominated forums, it doesn't seem like it's the look of the guy that would ruin future sex, but the size of his dick. There are plenty of women that complain about going back to average size dicks after being with really big ones. They seem to report that they are never satisfied again. In any event, it is likely that a girl has experienced a big dick if she has a high N count. That's as good a reason to avoid high N count women as any other reason.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/21 08:55 AM
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> The easiest example that I do see talked about here is a short man with a handsome face. Let's say that this guy is 5'5", but he's got a nice jaw, good eyes, etc. This is me (5'6, but universally attractive face). I was always able to get laid and I've even had women cold approach me to tell me that I'm cute. But I do feel like I've had to put in more effort than taller guys to seal the deal (though obviously I can't say for sure since I only know my interactions). It is important to note that…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/21 01:10 AM
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Any woman can be a "super hot woman". Just don't be fat and wear a lot of makeup. Therefore, the advice applies to all women.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/21 04:56 PM
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I do wonder if many of these women online who claim they are happy single are just coping. I was an avid reader of FDS before it went private and an avid reader of MGTOW before it got banned. Their content is almost exactly the same (except, obviously, they blame each other for all of the issues in the world). I think both sides desperately want to be in relationships, but they can't find one for whatever reason. If they were truly happy alone, they wouldn't be bitching about the opposite sex 24…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/21 08:01 AM
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And there’s nothing wrong with that. It’s better to be less jacked and alive than very jacked and dead (or very jacked with underperforming kidneys lol).
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/21 12:49 AM
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Yeah, I started lifting weights about a year ago due to high cholesterol. One of the things that I've come to realize is just about every person that I knew in the past who was a jacked gym rat was probably also a steroid abuser. Most of those bodies can't be achieved naturally by most people.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/21 12:35 AM
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I agree.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/21 12:21 AM
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The use of anabolic steroids leads to many long-term issues that can result in death, but it very rarely leads directly to an immediate death. Here is a paper that discusses immediate deaths directly related to steroid use: https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/33158202/ Because of this, it's difficult to find any exact information. Also, people who abuse anabolic steroids seem to be more likely to abuse other drugs later: https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/12633124/ As far as the rate of long-term compl…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/21 12:20 AM
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Yeah it's probably statistically more likely to have adverse effects than cosmetic surgery. Depends on the severity though yes? BBLs for example, which are popular thanks to the Kardashians, have one of the highest risks of death for cosmetic procedures. "Probably" has no place in a debate. Do you have sources that show that the likelihood of complications from cosmetic surgery is higher than the likelihood of developing long-term side effects from anabolic steroid use? There was this show I wou…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/21 10:19 PM
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How is it different? Cosmetic surgery is the same. It is damaging and lifelong and young girls do it, not just old ladies. The long-term effects are much worse when using steroids: https://www.drugabuse.gov/publications/drugfacts/anabolic-steroids https://www.mayoclinic.org/tests-procedures/cosmetic-surgery/about/pac-20385138#:~:text=Infection%20at%20the%20incision%20site,scarring%20due%20to%20skin%20breakdown I agree though that people really shouldn't get cosmetic surgeries to begin with.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/21 10:05 PM
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He's 18, barely an adult, and taking drugs that could potentially negatively affect him for life. He is clearly ignorant and naive of the damage that he is likely doing to his (still developing) body. This is on a different level than cosmetic surgery. He's clearly misguided. No one should be encouraging him to do this and he shouldn't be encouraging others to do this. The negative responses to him in this thread are reasonable.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/21 09:26 PM
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Evaluators from Southern Methodist University and Florida State University rated couples by their attractiveness (though why they were trusted as the arbiters of good looks is anyone's guess). Couples were also given a questionnaire about their desire to remain in shape and attractive. Fair enough. I'll admit that I was lazy and didn't even click on your link. If I were the “embodiment of black pill” I’d have married a beta bucks after failing to lock down the chads who pumped and dumped me duri…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/21 09:20 PM
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No by my logic if the overlap is equal to the rest of the population it would be 37.5% eliminated. I already showed you my math. But you admit that you knew the 50% number was wrong and you just said it because you wanted to make a point so you are saying it is okay to lie if it means your point is better made? 38 is still really high. You can make your point with that and not be a liar. This particular argument is not about strengthening my argument. It's whether or not I'm doing math correctly…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/21 09:15 PM
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What was their methodology for proving that these husbands were, in fact, objectively less attractive than the wife? The argument can be made that the woman is just inflating her own attractiveness and that her husband is actually better looking than her. Off-topic, but didn't you marry a Chad, OP? Why are you trying so hard to disprove black pill when you are the embodiment of it?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/21 08:33 PM
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Where do I seem “triggered”? And what in my statement do you think is a “cap”? This is a debate sub. You are not refuting any points with logical statements. Then when you can’t think of an adequate response, you just string random words together. You’re in college (presumably). Take a debate class. This will prevent you from embarrassing yourself in future arguments.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/21 08:04 PM
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People that say this shit are tools. I never worked out until I got into my 30s and developed high cholesterol. Now I have to exercise if I don't want to risk having a heart attack when I'm older. Don't work out just to get girls under the guise of "I'm doing for myself bro!!". That's pussy-pandering and is not a good look.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/21 07:59 PM
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You are doing the numbers wrong. There must be some overlap. Lets pretend the overlap was 100%. Then it would still be only 25% of the population. Obviously it's not, but it is not zero like you made it or else that would mean none of those shorter men would be balding. So in order to figure the number you would have to figure the overlap. I assume 25% of the men that are shorter are also balding, and vice versa. That would mean that 37.5% of men are taken out of the equation. Of course there ar…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/21 07:56 PM
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its more than enough. you havent been that guy then. Theres guys who are 7s and 8s who still have woman messaging them on dating apps, and IG asking to have sex on occasion. plus house parties, clubs , bars etc. I don't have a personal IG and I don't go to house parties, clubs, or bars anymore (I don't even live in the US anymore). But I used to do very well at bars and clubs back in the day and that was not low effort at all. In any event, a guy is not going to get "let's have sex" messages on …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/21 07:47 PM
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Well yeah, I’m sure Kobe Bryant did just fine back in the day. I’m not talking about athletes and celebrities though.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/21 07:30 PM
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It was a lot easier to see who was involved with who. There were no dating apps and very little dating discretion in general. Like I said above, I was very connected to people in my school. I was friends with all of Chads. I knew what was going on. Did more girls like Chad? Sure, but they were more willing to date non-Chads. Men were more judged on their behavior than they are now. I had a lot of girls into me despite me being short (therefore, statistically, I can't possibly have been in the to…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/21 05:26 AM
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It didn’t exist. That’s the point I’m trying to make.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/21 05:20 AM
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I guarantee you guys have a better chance talking to girls on Instagram than they do on tinder. I've never had a personal account on Instagram, but I did have my business on Instagram. I can't imagine that this would be a good place to meet girls unless the guy is extremely good-looking. Again, I've never tried, but it just doesn't make sense to me that it would work based on what I've seen. I’m aging myself but most of the girls I met were through MySpace and Tumblr, the reason I was so success…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/21 02:24 AM
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From my understanding, a lot of women meet guys through Instagram too (not just actual OLD sites). I have read that most people seem to meet online these days. Also, I can’t imagine that there would be so many incels if everything was so great. When I was in college, you didn’t have guys shooting people because they couldn’t laid (because many people were able to get laid). Also, I think I saw a study posted here that male sex has gone down, but female sex has increased. How could this happen if…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/21 02:09 AM
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Mid-30s non-Chad here. No way, man. Bars and clubs were awesome for getting laid. Things were much better back in the day (from what I've heard about today's dating landscape - I have not participated in the US dating scene over the past 4 years).
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/21 01:50 AM
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Mid-30s short guy here who spent a lot of time in bars in my youth. I bartended and was a club promoter at one point. The 80/20 rule was not a thing when I was younger. I did well with women, sometimes as good or better than some of my Chad friends (on different nights out). Women seemed to respond very well to guys with social skills who maybe weren't the best looking guys around. These days, women seem to be obsessed with superficial features on men. They also seem to be very forward with thei…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/21 01:47 AM
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I'm 5'6. When I was in college, I did pretty well. Women were still pretty picky, but it wasn't anything too bad. Ultimately, I was usually able to get the girl that I wanted (with varying degrees of effort). From what I heard about today's generation, I don't think it would be very easy for a short guy (or bald guy) to get laid no matter how hard he tried. That's a significant number of men (~50% of 25 year olds) who likely are or will become incels.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/21 01:38 AM
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Most women in the US are unwilling to date short and/or balding men. Approximately, 25% of men in the US are below 5'8 and about 25-30% of men are balding by the age of 25. So we are talking 50% of the male population that most women won't date. And that's just to get your foot in the door. Then there's the other stuff that you've listed above. Therefore, it's considerably worse for men in the US than the picture you paint. I'm in my mid-30s. Things weren't like this when I was younger. I feel b…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/21 01:31 AM
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This is why I support a pathway to citizenship for immigrants and, for the most part, open borders. I'd like my social security when I'm old and our generation is not producing enough children to allow that to happen.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/21 01:14 AM
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I think there's a generational gap here, which is maybe why some guys may argue with you. I'm almost 35. When I was in my early 20s, women, typically, did not do this. I knew several Chad men and I was popular on campus too (I was a bartender and club promoter, student government, lacrosse player, etc.). This kind of thing: when women are literally texting guys explicitly asking them to come over for sex didn't happen. If anything, it was indirect and possibly somewhat difficult to figure out th…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/21 01:10 AM
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Yeah, despite being short, I also didn't have a problem sleeping with attractive girls when I was in my early 20s. Lost my virginity at 16. I'm almost 35 now and I absolutely believe that I would be a virgin incel if I was 10-15 years younger. I feel sorry for American Zoomer men. They're fucked (metaphorically, of course haha).
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/21 01:04 AM
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Yeah, social skills and money are definitely not enough to get "free, low effort sex". I've been both of these guys and have never gotten what I consider to be low effort sex (though maybe our definitions of this are different).
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/21 12:59 AM
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The argument can be made that, for many, it's actually much easier to make a lot of money than it is to become good-looking.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/21 12:53 AM
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Sounds like gender equality shouldn’t exist if it can’t exist within society.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/21 07:11 PM
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Haha of course
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/21 06:03 AM
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There were many that they only find like 1% of men or less attractive. I wonder which men those are....
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/21 05:08 AM
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Source?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/21 04:31 AM
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Who cares? That's not my problem. Just like those women wouldn't care about my problems if they were alive today.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/21 04:13 AM
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Honestly, I think that this would be the best option for non-Chads.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/21 04:00 AM
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This is a purge thread and I thought the purge was going throughout the entire day.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/21 02:11 AM
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I’ve heard bad things about the women in Canada (that they’re the same as women in the US).
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/21 01:26 AM
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Okay. You’re a short girl that dates average height guys. Good for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/21 01:25 AM
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It fits the general narrative of what has been proven to be true in studies.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/21 01:24 AM
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I’ve lived in many different places in the US. It’s all the same, really.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/21 01:23 AM
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5’9.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/21 01:22 AM
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There are plenty of studies that back up most of what people say on PPD.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/21 01:21 AM
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I’m not speaking for them. They spoke for themselves....in this thread. I also spend a lot of time in female dating spaces on different forums. This has given me insight into how women really feel about men.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/21 01:20 AM
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It’s just you. Most of the other women in this thread seem to agree with the OP.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/21 01:14 AM
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Dark triad traits are the really the only thing that can make up for looks disadvantages, unfortunately. :\
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/21 12:45 AM
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Most women on this sub agree though.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/21 12:41 AM
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I'll stop being a misogynist when women stop being heightist. Deal?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/21 12:40 AM
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He was administratively ballsy. That’s not really what I had in mind.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/21 12:38 AM
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Based on looking them up (since I didn't know who they were), of course women find Evan Peters more attractive. He's taller.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/21 12:36 AM
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But most women in this comment section agree with it. So it can't be that far off.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/21 12:29 AM
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But most women in this comment section agree with it. So it can't be that far off.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/21 12:29 AM
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Most of the female responders in this comment section say the same thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/21 12:23 AM
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Porn and masturbation, really, are the best options for non-Chad men that choose to remain in the US. This is especially true for the 50% of men that are either short or balding. There is no hope for them here.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/21 12:22 AM
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Yeah, there's no point in approaching black women in the US. They have rigid standards.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/21 12:21 AM
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This is good evidence that most of what women are attracted to is not changeable among men. Therefore, most men should not put effort in....because there is no point.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/21 12:14 AM
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These men are the consolation prize for women who couldn't get Chad. Probably dead bedroom behind closed doors.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/21 12:12 AM
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It's so true though. Some women like their men to be 6'5, while others like short guys (6'2). Some prefer billionaires and others are willing to settle with lowly millionaires. LOOK AT ALL OF THAT VARIATION
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/21 12:06 AM
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Your mom is here for lulz
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/21 09:46 PM
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Asians.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/21 09:44 PM
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Yes, I have made my choice already. I will be having children. You shouldn’t though. For the sake of my future children, please don’t.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/21 09:28 PM
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We’re not simply disagreeing. You’re being lame and talking about equal rights. Let me ask you something: do you think your future (or current) goddess would make Chad put in a ton of effort to get and keep her? Prior to feminism, men had to chase women, but they got a reward in the end. The reward today is just Chad’s old fuck toy who can’t cook or clean, acts like a man, and is a bad mother.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/21 09:03 PM
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Fuck yeah. Women are too much work these days.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/21 06:28 PM
2

Okay. Good for them.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/21 06:27 PM
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It’s effortless. So it’s better. Why are you white knighting so hard right now?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/21 06:27 PM
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Yup, but only if the oppressors were Chads. If they were short, bald Indian janitors, I don't think they would buy that movie.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/21 06:03 PM
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Who cares? At least the guy doesn't have to put in much work. I'd gladly give up sex to not have to put in any effort. She could just clean the house and have babies occasionally.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/21 06:02 PM
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If the man has a penis, balls, and no lady parts, then he's a man. Sorry if you can't see that through your white knight bullshit.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/21 06:01 PM
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So hunting for junk food is better than having it delivered? Sounds like time that can be spent more productively elsewhere.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/21 06:00 PM
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She'll sell you down the river for your enemy for much less than death. She'll do it for riches (or at least the promise of riches), power, or hypergamy. Hell, she'd even sell you out for tingles.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/21 05:59 PM
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Not people. Only women.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/21 05:57 PM
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No way! He needs to get more haircuts too.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/21 05:56 PM
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I don't care if she's forced as long as she produces babies and cleans. At least I wouldn't have to put effort into getting and keeping her and wouldn't have to worry about divorce rape. Those are my primary concerns with modern women. I don't have a super high sex drive anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/21 05:56 PM
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How would just getting a girl assigned to you without doing literally anything not be wonderful? I'm confused by your question.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/21 10:53 AM
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What is this nonsense? Most of this has nothing to do with the topic that we just discussed. Humor me and answer them, then. permission for sex is not permission for pregnancy, just like going to a dude's room isn't necessarily permission for sex, much less permission for him to do whatever he wants during sex. If you go to a room for coffee and he roofies you and has sex with your unconscious body, that's rape. If you agree to sex and he gets violent and you change your mind, but he won't stop,…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/21 10:52 AM
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Now, wouldn't that be absolutely wonderful?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/21 10:38 AM
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Pre is the correct answer. Unquestioned dominance? Complete control of the relationship? Ability to cheat at will without any concerns? No divorce? Men not having to be concerned about their looks or personality? We have a winner, Alex.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/21 10:36 AM
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No one in real life is going around telling people that they are black pill or even red pill. I'm black pill currently, but back in the day, I was both a professional and a PUA. Nobody knew the latter though, of course.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/21 10:33 AM
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Haha good one!
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/21 10:29 AM
1

Rape jokes are funnier than you'll ever be.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/21 10:28 AM
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I'm average and I could have done it (if I was married). Therefore, all average men should be able to do it.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/21 08:44 AM
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Systemic violent oppression Sounds like the best porno ever.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/21 05:55 AM
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To be fair, the male desert people fuck goats.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/21 05:53 AM
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Correct, my friend.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/21 05:46 AM
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I was not advocating that he go to other countries to get laid. I would have advised him to move to another country, meet women, find a girlfriend and get married, while learning the language and the culture. Either way, learning another language is a good thing and certainly won't hurt you (there are even studies that show that being multilingual decreases the risk of Alzheimer's Disease).
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/21 05:45 AM
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Of course! I just walked around all day at work shirtless while playing my guitar. LOL
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/21 05:32 AM
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You do realize that it's possible to learn other languages, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/21 05:30 AM
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Can you detail pussy pandering? I have never seen someone put in these words. Be but not be her simp? I believe that I came up with this term. I've also never seen it anywhere else. I consider pussy pandering to changing yourself in some way for the sole purpose of attracting women. BP men do this in self-explanatory ways (giving them money, pretending to care about "equal rights", etc.). RP men do this by working on their game, trying to be more extroverted if they are natural introverts, impro…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/21 05:10 AM
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Maybe she did have her looksmatch and he took a bullet as a soldier? Only about 6,000 US soldiers died in recent wars. Possible, but extremely unlikely. Maybe she had her looksmatch and he caught fucking covid and died because there's a pandemic? This is possible. She's fat. So her looksmatch would be fat too. In that case, he would be more likely to die if he contracted COVID (again, not extremely likely). Whatever. She is on the market, she wants certain things but seems remarkably undemanding…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/21 05:01 AM
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Hell yeah. That's why it's so important to maintain these communities even though most people on the internet want to see us permanently banned.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/21 04:57 AM
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Written poorly, au contraire it's not illegible at all. Sounds like you lack reading comprehension. Does this sentence look grammatically correct you? "There's nothing strange about any of that your friend isn't some alpha Chad." It sounds like you need to work on your grammar before you focus on my reading comprehension. All foreigners are special especially in Westerners in Asian countries, if "you'd been there" you'd know that. Again, this is poor grammar. In any event, it seems like you're s…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/21 04:54 AM
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Haha I completely agree. I'm getting a lot of (expected) hate from entitled women and blue pilled pussy panderers right now. It's good to see that there are like-minded, observant, intelligent men in this thread as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/21 03:54 AM
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Thats why redpill wins. I used to be involved with PUA in my younger years (which was precursor to red pill). I've done it and had a lot of success with it. Experience has taught me that it's nothing more than pussy pandering. That's the real red pill. You are not cute, they want confidence. Again, do you have a photo of me?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/21 03:52 AM
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I've been to China many times and have seen it with myself. He isn't feeding me anything. I'm not sure what the rest of your comment means since it's written poorly.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/21 03:49 AM
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I couldn't care less about how I look. I think you might care. I don't cling to blue-pilled fantasies, I cling to reality, where weak men are thrown in the shredder and discarded. Yes and weak men are blue pilled men. Most of you black and red pill men just sound pathetic in your long rants about basic aspects of social relationships. Sound pathetic to you....because you don't live in reality. You don't deserve anything, no one deserves anything, life is unfair and you can figure your shit out o…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/21 03:48 AM
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That's not what makes me cute. My face is what makes me cute.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/21 03:37 AM
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Alright so almost every negative trait you have to say about women, you embody yourself. Gotcha! No. There are many things that I say about women that I don't embody myself. What have I said that makes your statement accurate? Be specific. Uh you’re not cute but have at it king. Do you have a photo of me?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/21 03:07 AM
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I agree. I'm a "cute" guy. You should see the kinds of things I got away with when I worked a 9-5.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/21 02:57 AM
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Black pill guy here. Let me answer these questions as best as I can. > Why is being hypergamous a blackmark? Who wouldn’t want to marry up? The answer to this is obvious: It's not in my best interest. > Women are “shallow” or flat out malicious in their choice of mate. So what? Again, not in my best interest. > Why do you feel entitled to be given a chance? I don't, personally, but in the past, I was often given a chance without asking for one. > Why do you think you deserve sex? I don't. I don'…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/21 02:55 AM
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No, you need therapy. lol This is another tired trope among pussy feminist men and women to gaslight critical men. It just makes you look bad and invalidates any argument you may have. Calling out men on their whining bullshit isn’t being a white knight, it’s doing a public service to losers in the off hours. I just expect more of men. Again, having a realistic view of the world is not "whining". You interpret it this way because you cling so hard onto your blue-pilled fantasies that you become …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/21 02:50 AM
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You're right. The mods here need therapy. That isn't my problem. And, as I say to most BP men, stop pussy-pandering. Eventually, your white knight outlook on life will come back to bite you.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/21 02:32 AM
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Nonsense. Women fuck the winners. This is nothing new. Maybe the military might was used on the few women who did not enthusiastically comply. Of course, modern feminist has revised the actions of these women to be "rape", but we all know what it was.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/21 02:30 AM
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Just say something negative about women on non-purge week and you'll get banned. It's easy enough to stay out of this sub after that.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/21 01:35 AM
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Pre-selection. It was a core tenet during my PUA days and worked wonders.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/21 01:31 AM
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That's true. In real life, they'd both be arrested for sexual assault.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/21 01:27 AM
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Every woman everywhere: "I'm a good looking woman."
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/21 01:17 AM
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The problem with googling these things is that you're often faced with feminist revisionism like the article I posted (where the article tried to spin women being traitors into their countrymen unfairly vilifying them). But, yes, I will search.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/21 01:15 AM
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Guy number 2 didn't take enough showers.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/21 01:10 AM
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I'm not literally banned all the time. But I'm banned so often here that I can't keep track. So I stopped posting except for purge week. I will go back into hibernation once purge week is over.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/21 01:09 AM
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Superman is too much of a nice guy. He's out saving the world so much that his girl would get lonely and cheat with Joker. "He wasn't paying enough attention to meeeeeeee!"
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/21 01:07 AM
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This is true. I can't post here outside of purge week because I'm on the naughty list. I said that ugly dudes are justified in their anger. I was slapped with a "No Cope" ban.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/21 01:02 AM
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Hahahaha the title is fantastic. Better than the meme itself imo.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/21 01:00 AM
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Interesting. I stand corrected. I guess there were some quality women throughout history after all. Do you have any other examples? If this was just a one off event, it doesn't really negate what I said. In that case, it just proves that rules have exceptions.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/21 12:59 AM
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The last time I fucked an American girl who was born in America was 2014. After that, I started traveling a lot and my interest in dating when I was at home decreased significantly (though I did still date occasionally, I didn't put any effort into it, really). I was recently engaged to a foreign born naturalized American citizen, who I was with for 3 years. I think it's still possible to date American women in the US, but the amount of work required is not worth the end result. These days, I wo…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/21 12:57 AM
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What else would you call them?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/21 12:38 AM
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Yup. It's very typical of women to do this. This is why they can't be trusted.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/21 12:11 AM
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Good example. I completely agree.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/21 12:09 AM
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They picked the side that they thought would win. Then they were punished accordingly for their treachery. Absolutely nothing wrong with that. To expect women to stay loyal to their compatriots is like expecting water to be dry or the sky to be green. Won't happen.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/21 11:59 PM
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Well ain't that hilarious? Somebody as objectively average as me flying halfway across the globe just to go on my first ever date as an adult? CLOWN WORLD. Yup. But this is the world we live in now. But yes, my family lives in Korea currently and might be moving to Russia. I was suffering from depression and under pandemic rules when I visited Korea, but from the way the girls there treated me like equals and gave me (platonic) attention rather than seeing me as completely invisible, I might hav…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/21 11:54 PM
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An interesting case study would be to see how local women reacted if there were a bunch of short, ugly invaders in a country who defeated the tall, good-looking defenders (like if China invaded Finland).
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/21 11:47 PM
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Hypergamous whores.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/21 11:40 PM
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That's a good point. That would be a massive pain in the ass lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/21 11:32 PM
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Lol my Chinese friends in this case, two girls, told me it was controversy for a while on social media as people kept sharing viral stories/videos of girls usually university students getting pregnant by their African bfs. Not that they actually seen girls have sex with black men. Black people in China are still really rare. Again I never said it was widespread but common enough that it sparked controversy on social media. Also why are you being so rude? I am half Asian myself (Korean) I know fi…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/21 11:31 PM
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I hear what you're saying, man. You won't be hearing any incel shaming from me. I'm not surprised by your account given the current dating market in the US. I'm a short guy with a good-looking face. I graduated from college in 2010 and I did really well with women while there, but this was a different time. There was no online dating. I feel like the women still had reasonable standards back then. I've never been to Scandinavia (and don't plan on going there), but I'd imagine it's pretty bad. Am…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/21 11:26 PM
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That makes a lot of sense. Have you considered creating a thread based on that article? It's perfect for purge week (would probably get you banned otherwise).
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/21 11:09 PM
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You are perpetuating a myth. This is not a common occurrence. I'd be willing to bet that your "Chinese friends" don't actually know anyone who slept with black guys over there. For all we know, it could just be propaganda in an attempt to spread more hatred against blacks among older Chinese men. You're making it seem like a common occurrence. If a black guy is reading this right now, he might be encouraged to go to China, which would be very bad for him (but, if he is here, hopefully he realize…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/21 11:07 PM
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Can you quote it? I don't know what comment you're referring to.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/21 10:57 PM
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In the past, I worked in health care. Then I created an Amazon-based business and sold it off. I also held Bitcoin since 2013. Now, I'm living on the money that I got from that sale, my savings from my high income job(s), and the Bitcoin money. I'm in the process of starting a SAAS business. So that's my next venture.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/21 10:56 PM
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Again, prior to the pandemic, I was in China often. This is not a widespread issue or something that locals regularly talk about. In general, Chinese women do not like black guys. I would not advise black people to move to China for women nor would I advise them to go there for work (due to the widespread racism). A few girls dropping out of college because they got pregnant by a black guy does not change that fact. If you want to perpetuate myths based on a few social media posts, that's on you…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/21 10:52 PM
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Of course. American women hate shorter men (even average height men are too short for them). It wasn't this bad when I went to college (in the mid to late 2000s). Very happy that I got to experience a less heightist American society. In any event, were you expecting something different?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/21 10:48 PM
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Who said that she should be working full time? I think you're trying to make me out to be a pussy that doesn't believe in traditional gender roles. Stop projecting that bullshit onto me.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/21 10:19 PM
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It's doable. I used to make that much money when I wage slaved. You just need to go into a good field (medicine, computers) or start a successful business. It requires some work, but it's not out of the realm of possibility for the average guy. I'm no genius. So if I could do it, most men can (unless they're retarded or something).
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/21 10:17 PM
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You sound stupid right now.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/21 10:13 PM
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So modern feminists are worse than Nazis. I stand corrected.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/21 10:11 PM
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Here's an article about women in France sleeping with nazis: https://time.com/5303229/women-after-d-day/ Of course, it's written in such a way to make the women seem like victims. Of course, they were just being punished for their treachery.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/21 10:08 PM
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Or just make a good salary. Of course man should do that. That's his duty.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/21 10:02 PM
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You're wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/21 10:01 PM
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Again, these are a few isolated incidents probably combined with some propaganda by the CCP. There's no evidence that this is widespread and certainly not something that I've ever seen.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/21 10:01 PM
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Yup. This is why I always say that those studies that claim women are less superficial than men are bullshit. You often see decent looking guys with fat, disgusting landwhales, but you'll never see a decent looking girl with a fat guy. Women are far more looks focused than men. I'm glad that a woman is finally able to see this.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/21 07:34 PM
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It's representative of a large problem among American women as a whole.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/21 07:30 PM
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That chick is not a 26 BMI lol. She's obese, not overweight. And "tall" never means 5'10. But you already know this. You know what she means. You're just bullshitting right now.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/21 07:30 PM
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I could see this argument being valid is she was maybe 10 years younger, but she's 33 and single. Clearly, she isn't settling for her looks match any time soon (otherwise, she would have done it already).
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/21 07:27 PM
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Of course. Women should do the housework. That's her duty.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/21 07:24 PM
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It was a bad joke. That's why.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/21 07:22 PM
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I'm shorter than you and have had success with women. So I agree that he could have gotten women. But it requires much more effort, especially since he was chasing the hot blonds (fortunately for me, I've never been particularly into white girls). I can see how they could treat him like shit in rich circles in Santa Barbara though.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/21 07:19 PM
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Hate to break it to you, but 5'7 is short. You are short.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/21 07:14 PM
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If that is happening (again, I seriously doubt it ), it's a very small minority of people. I was last in China for about 6 months in 2019. Unless the attitudes have magically significantly changed towards blacks since that time, this kind of thing isn't happening. ETA: Source?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/21 07:08 PM
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Stop pussy-pandering. It's shameful.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/21 07:03 PM
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Most are probably not capable of even admitting it to themselves. The ones that realize they do it just want guys around to give them free shit and want backup plans if Chad falls through. It isn't in their best interest to be honest.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/21 07:03 PM
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He claimed to be 5'9 in one post on a body building forum. That's where the internet gets that height from. There is no actual evidence that he was 5'9 and guys tend to exaggerate their height. He looks around 5'7.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/21 07:01 PM
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Stop pussy-pandering. It's shameful.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/21 06:59 PM
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Do you think that reading something on social media is the same as actually being there and spending a significant amount of time with locals in the actual country? I actually speak Mandarin. Do you? Blacks are treated very poorly in China and are routinely discriminated against. They are viewed as criminals. Chinese women throw themselves at white men. They are not throwing themselves at black men. My apologies if I come off as mean, but Americans are very ignorant about the rest of the world a…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/21 06:56 PM
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First, I'm not an incel. I've had many relationships and was even engaged at one point. My N count is quite high. For future reference, calling a guy an incel just because you disagree with him is losing its potency. It's a tired trope that reflects poorly on you and your argument. Anyway, I do have eyes and ears. I see what women do and hear what they say. My experiences (and various studies) support that women are quite heightist.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/21 06:51 PM
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Women of all races think whites are superior. This is very clear in their dating preferences. Women are all Nazis at heart.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/21 06:47 PM
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Nah, those women were interested. It's clear. You're just making excuses for those women because you think like those women.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/21 06:46 PM
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These girls don't think it's fake. That's clear by their messages.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/21 06:45 PM
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Absolutely. Women regularly and proudly engage in eugenics. Modern feminists would get along very well with Hitler.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/21 06:43 PM
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Absolutely. Women regularly and proudly engage in eugenics. Modern feminists would get along very well with Hitler.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/21 06:43 PM
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"Women can see into your soul through your eyes and know your true thoughts on life."
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/21 06:42 PM
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It's only rape when they get caught.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/21 06:41 PM
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It's related to gender. The Dutch did the same thing. Women are programmed to fuck invaders and betray their countrymen. They've been doing it since the beginning of time. You would do it too if given the opportunity (hope you like small Chinese dick!).
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/21 06:40 PM
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If you look at the source of the information online, it’s literally from one post on a body building forum where he claimed 5’9.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/21 06:27 PM
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He claimed 5'9, meaning he was likely shorter. I'd peg him around 5'7. He certainly wasn't average height.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/21 06:14 PM
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You heard wrong. Chinese girls don't want to date black guys. They openly scoff at them. And, no, whites (especially white men) are held in high regard by the general public. One of my best friends has lived out there for years. He's just an average white guy, but he's worked as a "white model" for different companies out there. He gets offered these things randomly as he goes about his day (pre-pandemic, of course).
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/21 06:10 PM
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Living there actually isn't too bad. Nice views and the women are fantastic. I certainly wouldn't call it a "communist hellhole".
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/21 04:39 PM
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Google him. He was short. I promise.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/21 04:38 PM
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Anyone who unironically self-identifies as a woman is beyond help.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/21 04:31 PM
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Bingo. American women hate short men far more than they like good-looking guys. Hence, his struggle.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/21 04:26 PM
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He was short, which cancelled out his face. American women are internationally known for how terrible they are towards short men. Given that he had money, he should have tried Eastern Europe (since he loved white women so much) before taking the path he did.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/21 04:22 PM
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He was short, which cancelled out his face. American women are internationally known for how terrible they are towards short men. Given that he had money, he should have tried Eastern Europe (since he loved white women so much) before taking the path he did.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/21 04:22 PM
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LOL you need to get off your computer and go outside. Nobody IRL knows that this place exists.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/21 04:17 PM
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source: I have a women friend that I desperately want to bang, but she has clearly fzoned me and has no interest. She says "you're a catch" whenever I complain about dating. Is she white? If so, white girls love cocaine and often fuck their dealer. You can try that route. source: Used to deal cocaine and fuck young hot white pussy.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/21 04:16 PM
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This comment implies that relationship material = ugly. You do realize that you've also just confirmed OP's point, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/21 04:13 PM
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I’m American. So it’s not in my best interest for China to take over. You need to watch the news more. China is in the process of transforming Hong Kong and is gearing up to invade Taiwan. They are also buying up land in other countries (including the US).
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/21 03:56 PM
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How is the narrative changing? I’ve been going abroad on and off for the past 8 years. Korea and Japan were never good places to meet women (at least not since I became old enough to travel). It sounds like you’re just uninformed.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/21 03:53 PM
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I've been saying that feminism is evil for the past 10 years or so, through multiple relationships and an engagement.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/21 10:48 AM
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China will soon dominate the world.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/21 10:42 AM
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South Korea and Japan are well known as places NOT to go to if you want quality women.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/21 10:41 AM
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I've been to China and I would not recommend that black people go there (they are literally spit on in the street).
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/21 10:40 AM
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Is that a trade-off, given than slim girls are quite "limited edition" there ? Also atm I'm nowhere near to be ale to afford a ticket to fly to the USA. Nah, at least from what I observed, tall guys have skinny girls throwing themselves at that at clubs. I'm sure it's good online too based on what I've heard and read. Taking anti-inflammatory steroids boosts or rather abnoormally increases pace of one's metabolism and as side effect you became monstrously hungry all the time ...so if you get one…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/21 01:11 AM
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No, it's normal where I live in Europe. Need more than just 180+ cm to get free sex. Yeah, height does matter somewhat less in Europe. In the US, it's by far the most important thing to women. If you come here, you will have no problem finding a girl. Let me guess : your friends are not obese or fat ( belly and double chin ) ? I have asthma and occasionally have to take steroids. Are you fat? Taking steroids occasionally shouldn't make you fat. This will hinder you, of course, but it's easy enou…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/21 12:29 AM
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With abortions, a woman is killing her baby. Therefore, an equal punishment would be the woman getting killed in the same fashion. The equivalence of a paper abortion would be something administrative since it doesn’t really change anything. Killing puppies has nothing to do with it. The fact that I need to explain this shows that you may have severe mental deficiencies. I’m frankly surprised that you can string a sentence together. ETA: For anyone reading this, this poster edited her response t…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/21 11:25 PM
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It’s very easy for women. So you have not tried it and are, therefore, not an exception.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/21 11:17 PM
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Online dating
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/21 11:12 PM
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Have you tried OLD?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/21 11:06 PM
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Women are not all the same, but doing what I wrote above will yield women the same results.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/21 11:02 PM
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All women need to do to get a decent guy is not be fat and do OLD. It’s very easy.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/21 10:56 PM
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Killing a puppy has nothing to do with abortion. It makes no sense and is a poor argument to the point of being nonsense.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/21 10:50 PM
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There are always exceptions.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/21 08:33 PM
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China is a little different because it forces abortions. I don't know enough about abortions in Vietnam or Russia to comment on that. Either way, these countries are completely different from the US. American women don't have any excuse for any bad behavior with all of the resources available to them.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/21 08:31 PM
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Poor/working class women can still be "lazy sluts who want rise cock carousel getting abortions in abundance".
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/21 08:20 PM
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I agree that black and latinas are also naturally prettier than WASP white women (I mistakenly initially included all white women in my original assertion).
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/21 08:19 PM
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Not trolling. I've actually seen Arab/Middle Eastern women in their native habitats without makeup. And, yes, leaps and bounds better than masculine looking white women.* And Asians tend to be cute without makeup and hot with makeup. Not sure what you're smoking, but that's reality. *I will say upon thinking about it further, this does not really apply to Eastern European women. They have great facial features. It's more the WASP white women.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/21 08:18 PM
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Most of those women are wearing some degree of makeup man.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/21 08:14 PM
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I'm actually mostly pretty liberal (though I vote Independent because I break with Democrats in a few big ways - abortion being one of them). I support birth control and teaching kids about sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/21 08:12 PM
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Haha no way. Asians are still attractive without makeup. They have a natural beauty like Arabs (in general, of course).
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/21 08:10 PM
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Fetuses are not babies, it's not your womb you have no bodily autonomy. Its really easy but you want to force yourself inside a women's vagina so badly. A fetus is not a person, does not have personhood, has no viability on their own, has no neurodevelopment of consciousness, and if you still feel that your religious views of personhood make this a justiviable position then you are gladly invited to f off because you can't enforce your religious views on anyone else, First, learn how to spell. Y…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/21 08:08 PM
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That’s a reasonable request.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/21 07:56 PM
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Modern feminism summed up in a meme.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/21 07:33 PM
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To different degrees, yes. Asian women are still attractive, just slightly less so. White women look like men without makeup. It's horrifying and gay.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/21 07:32 PM
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This is correct. This is why I always advise men to just leave western women alone. It's better for everybody.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/21 07:30 PM
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Have you ever seen white women without makeup? They're hideous.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/21 07:25 PM
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She's a young white girl. So he's probably a drug dealer.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/21 07:22 PM
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You can ridicule them now, but I'm sure you won't laugh when they're going on their shooting sprees. I'll take "revenge fantasies that actually happen" for a thousand, Alex.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/21 07:21 PM
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Citation needed first of all https://cdn.atixa.org/website-media/o_atixa/wp-content/uploads/2012/01/18121908/Lisak-False-Allegations-16-VAW-1318-2010.pdf ​ and second of all women don't owe you or anyone else for that matter an explanation or justification for their medical decisions about THEIR body. Yes they do when it 1) involves another living being and 2) the offspring may be mine. It's ironic how American women are seen as so empathetic, but are so willing to just murder babies (as opposed…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/21 07:14 PM
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Good.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/21 07:08 PM
5

I've already received and stored it. I'm not giving it back.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/21 07:03 PM
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My pleasure.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/21 07:00 PM
2

Please don't have descendants.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/21 06:59 PM
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Woman: I only date tall guys for eugenics. All Other Women: Sounds reasonable. Hitler's Ghost: Nice.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/21 06:57 PM
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Land whales have higher standards than chad.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/21 06:56 PM
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You are in the wrong country for that. Leave the US and loving relationships will be thrust upon you.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/21 06:54 PM
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Woman: I only date tall guys for eugenics. All Other Women: Sounds reasonable. Hitler's Ghost: Nice.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/21 06:50 PM
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This is correct. Happy to see that a woman finally understands this. Now tell others.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/21 06:48 PM
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Shorter guys can't grow. Bald guys can't regrow hair. That's 50% of the unattractive male population right there.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/21 06:47 PM
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Do you have any actual sources for any of these things beyond some moron on a youtube video?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/21 06:43 PM
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Backpage I'm telling you to be a prostitute.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/21 06:35 PM
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Backpage.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/21 06:33 PM
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Your mom is a pervert.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/21 06:28 PM
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Bumble.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/21 06:28 PM
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I would shit in their mouths if they did that (though they would probably just eat it and then ask for more - those fat fucks).
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/21 06:26 PM
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Tinder.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/21 06:25 PM
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Be civil
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/21 06:23 PM
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First, that is not a common situation. Second, you should have used the medical emergency situation. That's the only exception that I can see for something like this. So many women cry rape falsely that it shouldn't be used as justification for murdering babies (no matter how much American women love to murder babies).
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/21 06:14 PM
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The questions are stupid and the answers are obvious. A woman does not just become pregnant. She must engage in behavior that leads to pregnancy. Therefore, she is using to "provide life support" until the baby is born. A woman should not be able to kill a baby because she made decisions that she later regrets. Plain and simple. Who said that I don't care about embryos killed for IVF?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/21 06:12 PM
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You're talking to human trash who murder babies because they are an inconvenience (aka American women). You can't expect people like this to be responsible.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/21 05:52 PM
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Good for him. His COVID response has been terrible, but at least his views on abortion are reasonable.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/21 05:50 PM
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What are you going on about? Why is it so hard to convince American women that killing babies because they are inconvenient is wrong and immoral? You are monsters.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/21 05:46 PM
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No. You're still killing the baby. So the mother should be killed too.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/21 05:35 PM
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I mean the actual destruction of the fetus during the abortion. That's what should happen to women who get abortions. If they're willing to kill a baby, then they should be killed in the most gruesome way possible.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/21 05:24 PM
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That's true. Women are not a fan of bald guys.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/21 05:22 PM
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Damn dude. At that height, you really should be having women approach you for that reason alone. Any tall friend I've ever had, no matter how ugly, would get approached occasionally for their height alone. Do you ever go out to clubs or anything like that? There's where those approaches primarily happened.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/21 05:21 PM
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"If you knew anything about the healthcare system" I know plenty. I also know that children are not a solution, and that my option allows me to rely on people who have made the choice to care for others rather than leech off of family. Don't bullshit. You don't know anything about the health care system (beyond what you read in news articles). This is clear. It's not leeching off family. It's called a duty. It sounds like your values are all fucked up. This is common with modern Americans. You d…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/21 05:17 PM
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Women are the cause. I agree.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/21 05:13 PM
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This is a nonsensical response.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/21 05:12 PM
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Keep in mind that this is the gender that murders thousands and thousands of babies every year. When they are told to stop, they get upset and throw tantrums. Not very compassionate when you put it like that, eh?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/21 10:42 AM
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Whatever it is.....I'm sure they deserve it.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/21 10:38 AM
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Children should be raised in a loving environment and then allowed to live their lives. They owe you nothing for bringing them into the world out of your own selfish desire to have them. The care you give them is your responsibility, not a debt to be repaid. Life is a gift, not a loan. You're the parent. You brought them into the world. They owe you. Of course, you don't present it that way. Instead, you maintain a close relationship to them and you take care of your elders when they are old and…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/21 10:22 AM
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Children are not a retirement plan. They're their own people with their own lives, and they don't owe their parents anything. Plenty of seniors that don't have anybody are that way because they've alienated their entire family or their children simply don't give a shit about them. Children should be raised properly with good values. They should take care of their parents when they're old and sick. They actually do owe them that much. Just because the vast majority of Americans have poor values d…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/21 09:34 AM
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First, this is extremely stupid and it's clear that you don't understand the health care system in the US. You also don't know many seniors that literally have nobody. What exactly do you think retirement funds are for? Retirement funds can't look after you when you can't look after yourself. They can't be your health care proxy and make good decisions on your behalf. Do you think that workers who don't know you will make these good decisions on your behalf? LOL Either way, "hate on me hater, no…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/21 09:03 AM
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That's true. The real black pill will hit them when they're old and there is no one to take care of them (I've seen this happen many times IRL). The same thing happens to childless men.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/21 08:51 AM
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Black pill content is truth. And I'm not an incel (many relationships, recent engagement, high N count). But I acknowledge that the reason why I'm not an incel is because I'm cute. Incels are fucked primarily because of their looks, but also because of their associated low status. I don't see what's so bad about acknowledging this truth.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/21 08:49 AM
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It's that Mrs. Degree cunt. She's the problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/21 08:45 AM
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That sounds reasonable. It sounds like you guys have a better situation over in Ireland than we have in the US.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/21 08:31 AM
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You just said I could have a boyfriend easy peasy. Having a man approach me isn't having a boyfriend. That's step 1 of 1000 other steps to a hopefully lifelong fulfilling romantic relationship. I would say that just sitting online and doing nothing while having a flood of guys ask you out is "easy peasy". I'm a non-Chad guy. You won't get any sympathy from me on this one. You just said you couldn't compete against all those good looking guys. Why is it my fault when I'm ugly, but it's women's fa…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/21 08:28 AM
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So because I'm not interested in a quick fuck I'm "going out of my way" to be single? I want a meaningful relationship first. I'm not going to acquire that "easy peasy". Don't give me that. Several years ago, I created fake OLD profiles pretending to be girls when I first tried OLD in order to see what the female experience was like. Needless to say, I deleted all of my apps after doing so. There's no way I could compete with the men that were messaging my fake profiles lol. There are tons of go…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/21 08:14 AM
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Do you really, honestly believe that such a large proportion of women are psychopaths? Absolutely - in the US, at least. Look, I won't go into my experiences here, but I have personally observed women getting abortions and I know why they do it. Most were not due to medical complications. There were some, sure, but those are special cases that are acceptable, in my opinion. I'm not sure if you are in the US now (or anywhere in the west), but women here get them often as a form of birth control. …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/21 08:10 AM
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You were never asked out in high school? College? Even if you weren't, just hop online. You'll literally have a boyfriend in minutes. Easy peasy. If you don't want to do that, you're basically going out of your way to stay single. Non-Chad men have to go out of their way (usually way, way far out of their way) to not be single.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/21 07:39 AM
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That's different. Most women don't have abortions for that reason. They have abortions either because they were careless and irresponsible or as a form of birth control. I'm currently living in a country where, if the woman has an abortion, she can go to jail for murder. As it should be.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/21 07:36 AM
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Women who have abortions should be forced to undergo exactly the same thing the fetuses have to. An eye for an eye!
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/21 06:58 AM
2

One can only hope!
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/21 06:56 AM
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Why the "/s"? He genuinely still can.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/21 05:30 AM
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Yeah I think figuring out what's wrong is more likely to work. The secrets thing is just a fun cutesy thing to do when things are already going pretty well.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/21 05:09 AM
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What else is important to you? Well, I love to cuddle (I actually like cuddling and kissing more than sex). I'm a big talker. So I like when she listens to me. I also like when she tells me her deepest darkest secrets that no one else knows. From a practical standpoint, I like when she cooks for me. I like when she does nice things for me. I like doing nice things for her and buying her presents. But I don't think I'm the typical guy with these kinds of things (at least not from what I hear and …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/21 05:04 AM
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Most men, yes. Not me though. I have very high standards. Why don't you ask your boyfriend what's stopping him from being happy? It sounds like you two need to have better communication.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/21 04:57 AM
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That's it, really. It's very easy to keep most men happy>
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/21 04:52 AM
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That's his point. It is simply not possible for a woman to be lonely or single (unless she is too picky).
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/21 04:51 AM
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Hmm interesting, cardio makes me feel amazing I hate cardio. I have to do it at night because, if I do it in the morning, I feel like shit for the rest of the day. Loool I never said you don't have charisma, in fact I assumed you do have charisma based on your PUA escapades. I'm just bringing up that a good physique, charisma, and yeah having a cute face too, are all similar in that they can provide you a "boost" in life and how people treat you, even if you don't necessarily "need" any of them …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/21 04:36 AM
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Yeah for me I don't bother telling guys they should become less misogynistic. There's a difference between being misogynistic and hating feminists. None of my previous partners would say that I treated them poorly. Personally, I don't hate women. I do hate feminists though. In my view, feminists want supremacy. They want the benefits of both modern feminism and traditional values at the expense of men. Based on my experience, feminists are fat, ugly, and entitled. Personality-wise, they are FDS …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/21 04:34 AM
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Even with cardio? Or do you not do cardio Yeah, I do cardio. Even with cardio. Sure, I mean end of the day looking better is a boost (the halo effect is real and replicated in studies) but yeah you don't need it for people to respect you. Same with charisma, it generally helps to be charismatic but that doesn't mean you can't still be respected and liked even if you're not charismatic I never said that I don't have charisma. I have natural charisma and charm. I also have a good-looking face (tho…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/21 04:26 AM
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Ok but attraction is not a modern value, it’s quite convenient. Not sure how attraction is "convenient". I agree that it isn't modern and I'm sure people were attracted to each other, but that's not the reason why people got married in the past. Paternal genes are apparently more dominant from my 10 minute research. Is it possible the Y chromosomes determine more of the looks of a boy? No that isn't correct. This is very complicated and can't be explained with a short and simple comment. Genes a…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/21 04:22 AM
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Interesting. I'll have to take a look at them. While I'm not an incel myself, I do consider myself to be blackpilled and I support the incel cause (destruction of feminism).
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/21 03:57 AM
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People generally respect you more and treat you better the more attractive you look. If you were skinny that's actually not too bad though, it's much better than being fat. I had a 6 figure job prior to starting my own business. I never had problems with people respecting me (and that's despite being short). The health benefits are a long term thing, but even short term it can feel much better in daily life to be in shape. Related to this, exercise is good for mental health too. I've had a work …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/21 03:56 AM
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Nah, women would fuck these guys if they were good-looking. Even before I learned game (back in my pussy pandering days), I still had girls interested in me because I have a good-looking face (despite the fact that I'm short). I would imagine that incels are short, ugly, maybe balding, and probably a race that is less desirable in the west (like some kind of Asian).
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/21 03:52 AM
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What's medicann blackpill? And what's incelmatics? I've never heard these terms before.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/21 03:50 AM
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No. You're wrong. Why would you think that looks were selected for in the past? Again, marriages were arranged and usually based on obligation and convenience. Not attraction and looks. You're applying modern values to older societies.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/21 03:49 AM
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Gotcha, well cold approach itself is its own skillset which you developed in your 20s, no? Social circle probably requires less skill but it still helps to know what kinda behavior is attractive to girls I think that western men can leave the west without knowing any game and still do well with both cold approach and social circles in these countries. In general, life experience helps, but knowing game doesn't really help (in my opinion). Ah gotcha, well it definitely sounds like an interesting …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/21 03:47 AM
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Well, like, dating apps? Tinder? Cold approach? Social circle? I wouldn't recommend dating apps in most countries. They are mostly scammers and hoes. Cold approach and social circle are the best ways. I meant those skills still do help you today - e.g., you still go on dates and have relationships with girls, and knowing game helps with both those things. Yes, but it's different outside of the west. In the west (in my experience), you need to get sex ASAP or the girl will move on. In third world…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/21 03:29 AM
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​ You're coming from an unnecessary mindset of some war between the sexes, like you can never do anything that a girl would like because then you're a pussy. Like you should never study for a job interview, cause that's giving into the employer imperative. Or... you know... it's improving your career, just like working out improves your dating life. I've been engaged before. I certainly do nice things for women when I determine that they are worthy of such acts. I do it on my terms. I don't supp…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/21 03:21 AM
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Can you elaborate on your pussy-getting strategy in these third world countries Strategy for getting pussy in third world countries? Show up, be white, and don't die. Tbh I can only imagine if you got good at PUA in your 20s, the skills you developed then still help you with girls today Am I capable of it? Sure. But I refuse to engage in that kind of behavior with American women. Poor ROI and too much work. There are better options out there.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/21 03:17 AM
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As I said, I've done the PUA thing. I got a ton of girls in my early 20s. But that was all nonsense and, really, my time could have been better spent. In my 30s, I'm a FIRE guy and go to third world countries for pussy. No more will I engage in the pussy pandering of my 20s. Now, I just be me and let hypergamy do it's thing (with me being on the winning side of it finally). So enjoy your flirting, gymmaxxing, and pussy pandering. When you're done with all of that, you can join me in the promised…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/21 03:09 AM
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You can get laid without giving in to the female imperative. The only reason I ever advocate men working out is for personal health reasons. I started going to the gym regularly for the first time in my life last year. Why? To impress women? FUCK NO. I started going because my cholesterol was elevated (I'm in my 30s). I always advise young men to never pussy pander.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/21 03:05 AM
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Going to the gym is not a scam, use your fuckin head lol. Wanna get laid? Then do the things that make you more attractive to women. Fuck that. Giving in to the female imperative is the definition of being a pussy.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/21 02:58 AM
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Game works, but is only necessary for non-Chads. It's a lot of effort and not really worth putting a shit ton of effort into it when Chad gets the same pussy handed to him on a silver platter.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/21 02:56 AM
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PUA worked for me when I was younger. :shrug:
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/21 02:54 AM
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The problem with them is that they're really loud and really annoying. Obviously, their advice is stupid as fuck and shouldn't be taken seriously by anyone.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/21 02:44 AM
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No cope
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/21 02:42 AM
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According to her, they love gays in Russia and her husband is an uber male feminist. I have difficulty believing that she's legit about her current situation.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/21 02:41 AM
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Yeah, her insight is too good.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/21 02:40 AM
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There’s a good chance I’m wrong since nobody else is saying this. But men inherit more genes from their father and women from their mother especially sexual traits. People inherit the same number of genes from both parents. Your grandparents example is valid, that kind of arranged marriage was common but why do you think looks played no part? That seems naive. Life was much harder so they had no time for a lot of the pretentious aspects of beauty, but the fact is men had all the power and cared …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/21 02:24 AM
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If you actually believe this, you need to start doing genealogy and family research. The majority of marriages were arranged, but it wasn't like the woman was sold off to the man in most cultures. Both partners for forced to pair together. Looks didn't play a part in it. For example, my Sicilian-born great grandparents had an arranged marriage. My great-grandfather was extremely good-looking (based on the photos) and my great-grandmother was plain looking. What you're describing may have taken p…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/21 01:57 AM
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In my experience, Slavs tend to be good-looking, masculine, and aggressive. Plus, they are white. I doubt that they make up the majority of incels as that poster has claimed.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/21 01:52 AM
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Money matters, but only if you have a ton of it (many millions). And, even then, it only really matters because of the status that the man can buy for the woman. The core tenet of black pill is LMS, but I would actually argue that it's really only LS that matters to women.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/21 01:51 AM
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Incels consist of a large number of Slavs? I don't think that's correct. Slavic guys tend to be pretty good-looking and they're white.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/21 01:48 AM
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Hatred of women is a natural reaction to black pill theory.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/21 01:43 AM
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Have you seen photos of couples from the 1800s? The women look more manly than the men. Women certainly have not been "bred for looks" over the past thousand years lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/21 01:42 AM
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That dude also had a Dark Triad personality. This is also very attractive to women and can actually make up for a lack of looks and money.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/21 06:37 PM
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Yeah definitely. This is why I always advise men to move abroad for women. Hell, I just got out of a long engagement. Will I even bother trying to meet women in the US? I’m not Chad. So hell no. I’m moving to Asia in a few months.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/21 06:26 PM
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Obviously women are attracted to men, but the rest of your statement is nonsense. Women rarely approach and, on the off chance that they do approach, they aren’t approaching average guys. And they rarely respond positively when they are approached in a non-bar setting.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/21 06:12 PM
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Cold approaching used to work. I did it a lot in my 20s (late 2000s/early 2010s). It's too risky these days though. I consider myself to be very lucky to have lived in a freer time.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/21 11:07 AM
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It used to work. I used to do it like crazy in the late 2000s/early 2010s and had good results. I wouldn't do it these days though.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/21 11:06 AM
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Depends on what’s open haha. As of right now, I’m planning on Indonesia.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/21 06:56 AM
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I was born in the 80s and even us earlier millennials were forced to socialize. It worked well for me even though I’m short and not Chad. I will say though that these days, I wouldn’t bother. About a month ago, my long-term engagement blew up. Instead of trying to go out and meet American women, I’m spending the rest of 2021 alone and then leaving the US permanently in January (fortunately, my financial situation allows me to do things like this). I don’t think the pros of dating American women …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/21 01:21 AM
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I absolutely agree that I'm misogynistic. I don't think women are capable of much. What have I said that makes me anti-science? I'd love to hear this one. How is my thinking not critical?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/21 05:13 AM
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I don't think you know what the words "genuinely" and "unhinged" mean.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/21 05:08 AM
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Hell yeah.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/21 04:23 AM
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Oh yeah absolutely. I completely agree.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/21 12:40 AM
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I'm not sure I understand your argument. Why is having a live-in bangmaid overrated? Obviously, she would need to cook, clean, and fuck. And, of course, produce and raise children. Otherwise, there is no point to this arrangement. This type of situation is no longer sustainable in the US (so I wouldn't encourage it here), but is very sustainable in other parts of the world.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/21 12:32 AM
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Yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/21 12:29 AM
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What were some experiences that made you realize how important male height is? It was never something I gave much thought to it in high school and college. In high school, I had a lot of hot popular girls interested in me (but I blew most of these opportunities because I was made fun of for being ugly prior to this - apparently my looks changed and I didn't realize it). Then, in college, I was a partier, club promoter, and bar tender. This was before OLD and I got a ton of girls. It wasn't until…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/21 12:18 AM
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Yeah, but it's not mandingo or anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/21 12:13 AM
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I never said it would. It also wouldn't really improve his social status (the only other thing that women care about besides what you mention above). My original point that you responded to was that women don't value education in men (although based on your responses, you don't even seem to know why you responded lol). Therefore, you just agreed with me that women don't value education in men.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/21 12:12 AM
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Of course, there are odd people here or there that may like some bizarre trait or perhaps they are simply settling for a particular trait because they can't actually attract the 10 (and really because so few 10s exist - I don't think I've ever met a woman that is a 10, for example). In any event, niche dating as a whole doesn't exist. That's a fantasy held by blue pill people.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/21 12:09 AM
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It's hard now with COVID, but any Asian country works. I've heard mixed things about South American countries, but they might be good options too. Eastern European countries might be good options too, but I just don't trust white women. So I would probably steer clear of these countries.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/21 06:38 PM
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Education =/= income. Income is only attractive to women because of the social status that it can provide. Therefore, my statement stands.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/21 06:31 PM
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Men focus their attraction on hot women. It's that simple. Most guys would prefer to not have competition for the hot women. This has nothing to do with hypergamy. You're projecting your natural female hypergamy onto men.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/21 06:29 PM
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Niche dating is nonsense and is not something that I've seen play out IRL (despite people online claiming to someone that engages in the practice). In any event, there's no way that the woman will see the man that can't get any other dates as a perfect 10. Ever. This is simply not how women work.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/21 06:27 PM
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These questions are too broad. Do you have any specific questions? Or is this line of questioning meant result in statements that indicates that short men don't really have it so bad? (let me know now so that I can avoid feeding into this nonsense)
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/21 06:25 PM
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I wish men went for women with an education. Of course men don't go for a woman with education. How would an education improve her cooking and cleaning skills? ​ Unfortunately, most men focus on looks which cannot be changed and youth - which is over in the blink of an eye and can never be retrieved. Women can use makeup to change their looks considerably. And, besides, men simp over average and below average looking women as long as they aren't fat (and, even then, some guys don't care). Litera…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/21 06:23 PM
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The rare exceptions prove the rule.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/21 06:18 PM
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Wealth plays into social status. I don't feel like explaining social status. Refer to Wikipedia for an explanation on this. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social\_status
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/21 06:17 PM
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People like things that benefit them. Men and women have opposite mating strategies. It's a zero sum game. If women gain a win, men lose something. Of course I'm mad. Any reasonable non-Chad guy would also be mad. Ultimately, your stupid viewpoint on this is what put men in this situation to begin with (I'm assuming your a feminist man, the bane of the average man's existence). There is no such thing as "a trick of nature". That's just a very stupid phrase. It's called biology and, where possibl…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/21 06:15 PM
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I meant that you don't know a guy like that that is married to an attractive woman. I don't see mismatched couples to that degree. If I were you (and, really, if I were me without my current fiancee), I would consider moving to a developing country. Women are far more forgiving in terms of looks in these countries.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/21 11:36 AM
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Your sources literally list doctors as white collar. ​ KEY TAKEAWAYS White-collar workers are suit-and-tie workers who work at a desk and, stereotypically, eschew physical labor. White-collar jobs typically are higher-paid, higher-skilled jobs that require more education and training than low-skilled or manual work. Examples may include managerial roles or professions like doctors or lawyers. White-collar workers and jobs are often portrayed in contrast to blue-collar work, insinuating a stratif…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/21 11:34 AM
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I have seen mismatched couples, for sure. But many of these couples got together before online dating when their options were more limited. Many of these women (from what I've seen) do end up cheating. Also, another thing to consider is whether or not these women are with these guys DESPITE their looks (not because of them). Maybe the fat guy is charismatic and the woman developed an attraction to him over time. So she might be in love with him, but this is a far cry from her thinking that he is…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/21 10:57 AM
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Doctors are definitely not considered blue collar workers. They work in office settings, for the most part. And, yeah, for sure, but the option is still there. I can't grow 6 inches, but a blue collar guy can switch to a white collar profession.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/21 10:51 AM
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It was a tongue-in-cheek response. I'm not a big fan of invading random countries for......reasons(??).
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/21 10:48 AM
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Yeah I got banned from r/short long ago. The new mods don't let you say anything even remotely negative about women (lest you are incel and permanently banned). And, yeah, absolutely. I've had to be perfect in every other way. When you're a short guy, you really don't have much time (or energy) to stress about things like dick size lol. I also hate when people talk about their short friend that gets laid. Thus, short men have no issues. Well, I AM that short friend and, trust me, there are many …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/21 10:47 AM
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That’s true. There are still plenty of countries to invade. Hell, maybe once Elon Musk figures out the space thing, we could start invading other planets too.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/21 10:23 AM
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When it comes to the 80/20 theory, yes, it’s irrelevant. But whether or not a man is a 10 is relevant to this particular argument (scroll up for more details).
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/21 10:21 AM
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Unrealistic standards are different when distinguishing between the genders. For example, I have an older friend (mid-50s) who is divorced with grown children. He wanted a woman half his age who is skinny, has no children, and is not crazy. Sounds unrealistic, right? Well, he was in a good enough financial position to quit his job and move to a third world country. Now, he has exactly what he wants. So I would say that his goal was actually realistic. Alternatively, while I don't know any of the…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/21 10:08 AM
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I find this statement to be shocking. I'm also 5'6 and that has definitely been my biggest impediment in dating. Once I have sex with the girl, it's easy to keep her around. It's getting to that point that's the hard part.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/21 09:48 AM
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I guess that's a fair analogy.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/21 09:44 AM
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I'm short, good-looking face with a good head of hair. I'm in my mid-30s. My fiancee is 10 years younger than me and very pretty. She's super into me too. But I don't have any delusions about being a perfect 10 in her eyes. We are all limited by our genetics, my friend (except, of course, for Super Chad).
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/21 09:43 AM
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You're saying this because you don't know what it's like to be a short guy. How many times do you think the 5 foot guy would even have the opportunity to show off his dick? In any event, it doesn't really matter because that was obviously a hypothetical situation. ETA: I'm pretty sure that women pursue tall guys because being with a tall guy signifies high status.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/21 09:39 AM
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I disagree with you. I won't get into why, but I disagree.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/21 09:29 AM
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They don't deny it, but they still massively understate how important a big dick is. It's not a subject that comes up much. I haven't really seen anyone here understate it. ​ A girl can be satisfied with a shorter guy, but not a smaller one. That's true, but the guy would have to get the girl into bed first. No small feat for a short guy. I'd rather be 6 feet with a 4 inch dick than 5 feet with an 8 inch dick, personally.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/21 09:28 AM
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He's not a 10 to you. You just graded him as a 3. I'm sure you weren't falling all over him when you first met him. He became more attractive to you as you got to know him. That's fine, but it doesn't mean that he's a 10.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/21 09:24 AM
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I've really only seen women fall all over themselves for traditional Chads. I've seen non-Chads win women over or ask a woman out and have the woman say yes, but there is never as much excitement as when Chad asks them out. It doesn't mean that non-Chads can't get laid or get into relationships. They just won't be a 10 in the eyes of their girlfriend (though maybe she will get to know him and like him more).
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/21 09:23 AM
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I've never really heard this before and I guess I wouldn't since I don't know blue collar guys. In any event, I guess it doesn't surprise me. Women will find all kinds of reasons not to date perfectly good men these days, no matter how stupid. Still though, if this is something that bothers you, at least it's something you can change (as opposed to your looks or height). I've known guys that were construction workers in their 20s, then became doctors in their 30s.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/21 09:17 AM
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Men are not hypergamous. Only women are.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/21 09:14 AM
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Hypergamy isn't a useless concept. It actually can work very well when determining which women to date. After all, all women are hypergamous. Why waste one's time on a woman on your level or higher when she probably won't date you? Also, RP teaches guys to go to the gym, be more social, approach a lot, dress a certain way, etc. It's kind of like the modern version of PUA. I think you don't understand what RP is.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/21 09:02 AM
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Red pill literally teaches guys how to get girls. Blue pill tells guys that everything is awesome and you'll find someone perfect for you just by existing. Black pill tells guys to just give up because there's no point unless you're super good-looking. I'm in my 30s. When I was young, we had PUA and I was heavily involved in that. While it gets a lot of hate today, I became massively successful (far beyond what should be allowed based on my looks). These kinds of communities give better advice t…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/21 08:55 AM
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This is a study from 12 years ago with a relatively small sample size. Not the best. And there are several things that we don't know about that study. How do the guys look? Do they look similar? Are any of them bald? Women in that study showed a clear preference for thin, muscular guys. So there's that. I would imagine that there would be a preference for taller guys that aren't bald too. So, again, you're going based off one possible flawed study that is quite old. Do you have better sources? O…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/21 08:49 AM
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All dating advice is either red pill, blue pill, or black pill. If you get dating advice from people not on this sub, it will come in one of these forms. The difference will be that they don't actually know about the pills per se, but their advice will reflect them.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/21 08:43 AM
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White collar.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/21 08:41 AM
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I'm genuinely curious about this too. My dick size is just about average (6 inches) and I've given some girls orgasms with gentle sex, some with pounding, and some not at all (with PIV anyway). My fiancee was one of the harder ones, but I figured out a motion that gets her to cum hard. Their g-spots seem to be generally in the same place (on examination with my tongue and fingers). So I'm wondering what the difference is here. Any ideas?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/21 08:30 AM
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My dick is just slightly above average and I really haven't had issues making women cum from PIV. I even made a prostitute noticeably cum once (shaking and everything - it was obvious). Damn, that was the biggest ego boost I've ever had lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/21 08:27 AM
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This is laughable. The world would be a better place if women stopped spouting these platitudes. If OP was a virgin until 24, his current girlfriend can't possibly think that he's a perfect 10. There is no niche dating. That's nonsense. There is only objective attractiveness.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/21 08:09 AM
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All people are "pill people". Most just don't know they are.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/21 08:05 AM
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It'll be interesting to see what happens moving forward. Will women simply stop having children due to the lack of availability of Chads? Will they conceive via sperm donation? Will less attractive simply drop out of the work force? If so, who will fund all of the single mothers? Most importantly, how will this affect my social security (given the decreased population due to women's increasingly insane standards)?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/21 08:04 AM
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I really don't think so based on my experiences. But okay. Agree to disagree.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/21 06:56 AM
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I've always worked white collar jobs. So I don't really know many blue collar guys. So I guess I can't really comment on it. None of the women that I know IRL are married to blue collar guys. Still, I would think that this is less of a concern to women than looks and height.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/21 06:29 AM
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> I see a lot of men here chastising women for ignoring "good guys" and participating in modern-day "harems" just so they can sleep with top 20% of men. Only blue pill guys are confused about this. Most guys on PPD are red or black pill. Therefore, we understand the 80/20 rule and the harems. > I understand how this can be difficult to understand for many men, but as a woman, it makes perfect sense. Women really aren't attracted to most men. Sex with a man you are not aroused by can be physicall…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/21 05:47 AM
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Oh yeah. Old ladies are nasty. Hell, young American girls are nasty (and fat). This is why I stopped dating American women. I figure if I'm going to be treated like shit, scammed, and unappreciated by a woman, she might as well be super hot.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/21 05:05 AM
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Women say: It's not about his INCOME it's about his education level. I mean, if he doesn't have one or more degrees at LEAST as prestigious as mine, what EVER would we talk about?" That's what they say. They really mean income. They just don't want to come off as golddiggers. Personality, I'd rather a girl like me for my income than something that I can't change (like my looks or my height). But, due to feminism, that ship has sailed.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/21 05:02 AM
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I misstated. The man can't be short and bad looking (rules out 50% of the male population). Women not mingling with blue collar men is the only reason they would not choose a blue collar guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/21 04:59 AM
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I think you replied to the wrong person. My point was that women mostly care about looks and height with money being third. I don’t think women care whether the guy is blue color or white color as long as the above criteria are met (especially the first two). So I’m not sure what you’re responding to here.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/21 02:52 AM
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I don’t watch morning shows. I’d imagine that this is a case of “watch what women do, not what they say”. If women are not finding marriageable men, it’s because their standards are too high.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/21 02:13 AM
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That’s a good point. It’s ironic that as they become less attractive, their standards go up.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/21 02:11 AM
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Absolutely. Couldn’t have said it better myself.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/21 01:47 AM
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Not necessarily. Depends on how good he looks in photos and how charming he is. In any event, most guys don’t want to be the guy she brings home to the family, while she’s casually fucking Chad.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/21 01:44 AM
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If the guy has other indicators of social status (like a house), I haven’t noticed it to be a big deal. But either way, at least educational requirements are based on something earned. Most things that women require are things that guys can’t change.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/21 01:06 AM
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I haven’t really seen that in practice. But the key is the guy must be tall and good looking.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/21 01:05 AM
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No. Women only care about education in terms of how it affects their social status. Remember, women are extremely superficial. If a man is tall, good-looking, and homeless, but can manage to look good in photos, he's golden.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/21 12:58 AM
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I actually think it's better if women went for guys with an education. While we know that women would actually be going for them for the wrong reasons (social status, as opposed to important attributes such as the ability to work hard and the development of proper reasoning ability), at least this is somewhat based on something that the man actually worked for. Unfortunately, most women focus on looks and height, which can't be changed.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/21 12:56 AM
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Women don't care about education as long as the guy is tall and good-looking. Women will date down in most everything aside from looks and social status.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/21 12:53 AM
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This is what I've been saying. Women don't care about education as long as the guy has social status, meaning he must be tall and good-looking. Blue collar guys can certainly make money too. These are the things women care about, not education.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/21 12:51 AM
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As long as the blue collar guy is tall and good-looking, she will date him. Blue collar guys can make a lot of money too. Women don't really care about much else. So I don't see this being an issue.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/21 12:49 AM
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That’s irrelevant. We both have equal say over the law, which dictates what you are able to do with that pregnancy to which both a man and a woman contributed.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/21 03:25 AM
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Definitely true.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/21 05:06 PM
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My opinion is no more useless than yours. Both of our votes count the same. In any event, women are being too dramatic about the new abortion law. It is objectively nothing like Handmaid’s Tale.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/21 05:06 PM
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It works well. But I do have to say that we don’t actually try to do this. This is just our natural responses. So YMMV.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/21 06:19 AM
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While I think being angry and passionate is hot, I do think the emotional vulnerability is a bit hotter. Definitely less scary. Anger is emotional vulnerability. I'm Italian. I have an Italian temper. Most of my family expresses ourselves by yelling at each other. If something bothers us, we yell about it and solve it on the spot (lol). My fiancee is latina. So we yell at each other a lot too. It usually leads to good discussions and conflict resolution, along with awesome (sometimes angry) sex.…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/21 06:14 AM
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Agreed. I actually think that if men received more attention and validation, many of the current problems in today's society would be largely resolved (mass shootings, crime in general, sexual violence, etc.). But one woman can't accomplish this in a vacuum. This would require a societal shift, which is unlikely to occur.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/21 06:09 AM
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Depends on the compliment. If a woman comes up to me and says "nice scarf" or something, I'll assume that she thinks my scarf is nice (lol). If she comes up to me and says "you're cute", I'll think of that as more of a come on. But also things like body language will be taken into account. But, upon further reflection, if I thought she was cute or just felt feisty that day, I might ask for the contact info anyway (to be fair, I used to approach women a decent amount too so I wasn't the shy type)…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/21 06:05 AM
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Yeah, Americans, in general, are super dramatic. Look at this new abortion law in Texas. Some women are actually comparing it to the Handmaid's Tale lol. Super dramatic.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/21 05:56 AM
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Also, you can find someone attractive and yet not want to sleep with them? I swear it’s true Men can't. This is why you'll have a hard time getting this point across.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/21 05:44 AM
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What kind of compliments are you referring to? Like "Hey, nice haircut!" or "Hey, you're cute." I've been complicated in these ways in the past. I would typically interpret the former as just a compliment, but the latter as a come on.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/21 05:41 AM
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This is way too complicated and all over the place. What's worked best for me in the past is just doing whatever I want. And to the vulnerability part, I can't really speak to that. I'm not a crier. I never cry. Ever. (Not because I'm trying to be macho either - I just don't cry). I do get angry though and I'm a very intense and dominant person. This seems to turn women on. I can't imagine women getting turned on by crying lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/21 05:38 AM
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This is what I've observed as well. In the modern world, beggars are also choosers.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/21 05:18 AM
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Short guy here. I did fantastic with women in college. The girls I dated were some of the hottest on campus. However, this was in the mid to late 2000s and I have a good-looking face. It sounds like my experience now would be way worse (since OLD wasn't really a thing back then).
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/21 11:47 PM
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There are all sorts of laws for essentially killing someone, that's how involuntary manslaughter came about. Involuntary manslaughter is different than the state actively killing someone. ​ Yeah, I have no idea what you're trying to say or imply. Reddit doesn't censor opinions on abortion. I've literally seen guys rant about how they'd murder their girl friend/wife if she had an abortion. They weren't banned or censored. Not about abortion, but rape. I've been placed on long timeouts for my view…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/21 02:03 AM
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Nah, he essentially killed her (involuntary manslaughter). Had he not ejaculated in her she would have never died in childbirth. He was the catalyst. He should bear some of that responsibility. There is no law for "essentially murdering". This is a logical fallacy (and, thus, a strawman). You do not know how to debate and do not have a logical argument here. I was raped in the woods by a group of boys/men (no idea who they were) when I was 15. That's how I got pregnant. Again, in fear of being b…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/21 12:54 AM
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Of course not. He controls his body and where his sperm ends up. If he irresponsibly ejaculates in a woman, that's not just her problem, that's his problem. He is responsible for his own actions and his own sperm, and those actions and sperm created a baby. Therefore, he is equally responsible for creating a child, so should have equal consequences. Massive strawman here. If a woman dies from childbirth, she is not murdered. She is simply dying in childbirth. If a man dies in the way that you de…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/21 12:09 AM
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Drugs actually are a cheat code to pussy, so I'd agree with this. Absolutely. Women love drug dealers.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/21 11:47 PM
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We can agree then. Men need to be held responsible for where their sperm ends up. If a man is responsible for impregnating a woman, and she dies, he should be put to death. This is an absurdity and not a valid argument. Men do not get pregnant and cannot control a woman's body. Therefore, they are less responsible for pregnancies. They'll have an equal responsibility to prevent it and equal consequences if they don't. Again, this is an absurd argument. In any event, with modern medicine, most wo…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/21 11:42 PM
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Yikes. So you think it's fine for women to potentially die or become permanently injured or disabled for getting unintentionally pregnant? Of course postpartum depression and psychosis exists too. Not to mention trauma from the pregnancy and birth too. Women should be held responsible for their decisions, regardless of the consequences. I absolutely believe this. I also believe that men should be held responsible for their own decisions. Society should not be required to alleviate women's respon…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/21 11:12 PM
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You are creating this question in order to back me into a corner. Of course, I don't believe that children should be forced to give birth against their will. However, I do believe that adults should be forced to give birth if they are irresponsible enough to become unintentionally pregnant. I would support a bill that allowed abortions for children under 18 (as long as it stipulated that it doesn't apply to adults).
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/21 10:51 PM
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Do you have any sources that state that this situation is the primary reason why women have abortions?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/21 10:27 PM
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A few women MIGHT die, but millions of children will be saved. This is a reasonable trade-off.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/21 10:26 PM
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Yes, this is a sad story, but it does not make up for the millions of women who use abortion as birth control. I am not religious, but I am against murdering babies for the hell of it. I applaud Texas for what they are trying to do.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/21 09:12 PM
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Nonsense. Those are probably false allegations too. Everybody knows that feminists pad those numbers.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/21 03:15 PM
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No, I mean they started publicly having sex in the common room and then moved to the bedroom (according to people who were there). They literally saw them having sex. So, yes, rape did not occur in this case. He was justly acquitted. It looks really bad for women when they falsely accuse men of rape. Don't you understand that, in your attempt to defend one of your own without any grounds (since you weren't involved and don't know anyone involved), it makes you look bad and it makes actual rape v…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/21 12:11 PM
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When I was in the military, I observed an active duty woman falsely accuse an active duty man of rape (they had consensual sex and there were actually witnesses). He was court martialed, but ultimately acquitted. She received no punishment and was actually awarded her base of preference and moved there (basically, she was rewarded for her false rape accusation). This is just one example, but I'm sure she's not the only woman to falsely cry rape and then receive a reward even after being outed as…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/21 11:46 AM
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You shouldn't need a source for something that is common sense. If I told you that humans breathe oxygen, would you need a source for that? No? Well, this point is literally just as obvious. The fact that it's not obvious to you is an indication that you lack common sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/21 11:31 PM
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No, you said that cosmetic surgery for women is just as bad as cosmetic surgery for men. This is objectively false. How old is your father? I'm willing to bet that he isn't in his 80s. If he was, he'd be having arthritic pain from the bones he broke. If he is in his 80s, he's likely having pain and just not telling you about it. Yes, if you break a bone, it's pretty much guaranteed that you'll have pain in that area when you're older.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/21 11:29 PM
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We are not arguing whether or not people should have surgery. I find it incredible that you don't even seem to know what point you're arguing.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/21 11:27 PM
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What women consider to be "interesting" is not actually interesting. Yeah, I've done the whole cool skydiving, outgoing toolbag bit in the past. Sure, I did really well with women at the time, but then I decided that simping for women (and going against who I really am) didn't work for me. It sounds like, for women, a man must either to be tall or be a total agreeable simp. Not a good option if you aren't tall.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/21 10:41 PM
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Sorry. When people lack common sense, I become agitated. This is a personal flaw that I need to work on.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/21 10:34 PM
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Yeah, this is an extreme laundry list of things that he needed to do in order to overcome being slightly less than average height. Do you not see how you basically just proved what I said? Basically, his options were: be tall or be absolutely perfect in every other aspect of life.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/21 10:33 PM
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Fathers are only absent because women divorce rape them and steal their children away. Men don't just get women pregnant and bail on them. This isn't allowed under the law anyway (since men will go to debtors' prison if they fail to pay child support). The few times men do bail on women occurs when women have babies with bad boys (which many do in their teens and twenties). Again, this is due to women's poor mate selection more than men. It's very easy to have children with a sperm donor these d…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/21 10:31 PM
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It isn't an exaggeration. Like most women, you lack empathy. This is why you are downplaying the issue.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/21 09:44 PM
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It's common sense and WILL cause arthritis. Do you have mental issues?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/21 09:43 PM
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Yes, it WILL cause arthritis. Do you have a mental problem?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/21 09:42 PM
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Anybody that has fractures at a young age will have arthritis at an older age. I'm a former health care professional, but I would think that this would be universally known and common sense (but, obviously, I was wrong in that belief).
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/21 09:38 PM
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"Completely successful 4 out of 10 times" is not good. That's only 40% (math is hard, I know). Did you read the link about how fractures leads to arthritis? Have you ever broken a bone before? Why don't you go and break your leg right now? Oh, you don't want to? Why don't you want to? Again, do you think that something that is common sense needs citations? If breaking one's leg was so awesome, everybody would do it.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/21 09:36 PM
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It affects every man under 5'8. Even if the short guy manages to get a girl, he has to go through almost literal hell to get to that point.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/21 09:34 PM
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BELOW 5'8. This is short and practically a crime in the US.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/21 09:32 PM
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First, are you fucking serious? Do you really need a source that tells you that intentionally breaking your legs and lengthening them will cause problems? This is the problem with debating with women. Either they are just too stupid or they intentionally play dumb and create extra work (like looking for links that contain obvious answers). Anyway, here are the links: https://www.mountsinai.org/health-library/surgery/leg-lengthening-and-shortening https://www.hss.edu/conditions_limb-lengthening-o…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/21 09:11 PM
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I said below 5’8 (meaning short). This does not meet the requirements that most women have.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/21 09:04 PM
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"Not super low risk" is different than guaranteed to cause complications. It's not even in the same ballpark.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/21 09:03 PM
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See my comment above. Roughly 30% of men are below 5'8 in the US. The only way to improve their looks to meet the extremely rigid requirements of the vast majority of women would be to get leg lengthening surgery. So this is primarily what we're talking about here.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/21 09:02 PM
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You literally compared surgeries that women could get to improve their looks to surgeries that men can get to improve their looks. Since the issue that about 30% of men have are height-related, this is the primary surgery that is being discussed here.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/21 08:59 PM
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Nice deflection. I guess you spent 5 seconds on Google and realized that I’m right. You do not have an adequate answer. So you are resorting to insults. This is a debate sub, FYI. Learn how to debate and come back here once you know.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/21 08:56 PM
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There will be a population crisis. This is the exact trajectory that happened in Italy, Japan, and now the US. It will happen in your country too if infected by the deadly disease known as feminism.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/21 08:52 PM
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This is a ridiculous (and stupid) argument. There might be minor complications with implants, but a man literally needs to have his legs broken to meet the standards of the modern woman. This is guaranteed to cause him lifelong problems. The lack of insight in your comment is, frankly, embarrassing (even for me).
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/21 08:50 PM
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Women have standards that are unreachable by most men. Hence, the decline in marriage and birth rates.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/21 08:47 PM
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Negging never worked. I should know - I read my first PUA book in like 2001. Simply approaching and having a nice conversation used to work though (even for non-Chads). It no longer does and I think this disappoints many men (PUAs and non-PUAs alike).
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/21 08:46 PM
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What country are you from? Not sure if you know this, but some countries are having population crises. Eventually, your country will do (after it is inevitable infected with feminism - a disease that is worse than COVID).
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/21 08:43 PM
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Yeah, brb while I get my legs broken intentionally and then lengthen them by hand for 6 months in excruciating pain. This will give me 2 inches of height and a lifetime of arthritis. Do you really think that breast implants are comparable here?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/21 08:39 PM
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Exactly. And this is why so many women only want tall and good-looking men. They can just have children from sperm donors (and then apply for government benefits as a single parent), have their friends to talk to, and have Tinder Chads available on call to fuck. So why settle for an average looking, short guy? Of course, their bastard child will be a mess without a father, but this is not a concern for the modern, self-centered, feminist woman. God help their children if they have sons.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/21 08:35 PM
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If a man is short (5'8 or shorter - roughly 30% of the male population), he must be jacked, wealthy, and charismatic on an otherworldly level to attract a woman (this is proven by studies). Accomplishing all 3 of these things and having time to actually date is almost impossible.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/21 08:29 PM
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Planning and organization is not emotional labor. That's just being an adult.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/21 08:25 PM
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This is the problem with feminists: talking and supporting your partner (known as "emotional labor") is now some terrible thing that they have to do and counts as work. Why any man would want to deal with this is beyond me.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/21 08:24 PM
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Guy here. I find that if a girl likes me, it will give me an ego boost. But, if I'm not attracted to her, her liking me won't change that. Come to think of it, I actually prefer girls that hint towards liking me, but don't come straight out and tell me. This way, I can pick up on the signals and decide if I want to proceed. I do notice that if I tell a girl that I like her, it makes her like me more (or at least plants the idea of dating me in her head). DISCLAIMER: I am engaged currently. So th…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/21 08:40 PM
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PPD (and all of reddit really) is basically little more than a place for people who like to debate and for people who like to vent via shitposting. There are subs that offer real life value, but, typically, dating (and dating-related) subs do not.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/21 09:17 AM
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She's a woman and she disagrees with an argument. Therefore, it's misogynistic. That's all.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/21 12:21 AM
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This is a great and concise explanation as to why women prefer bad boys and date guys who are not good for them (in the modern sense).
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/21 12:14 AM
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You're trying to convince yourself of this because you're looking for justification to stay fat. No, most men do not like fat women. I'm HWP and my fiancee is HWP. All of my friends are with skinny women. The only men that I know that are with fat women are fat men and skinny pushover-type men that non-fat women wouldn't want to date.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/21 01:28 AM
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Your hairline sounds like my hairline. I was thick Norwood 1/2 when I was 20 and was concerned that my hairline might be receding. I'm 34 now and my hairline is exactly the same (thank god). Fingers crossed for a thriving hairline well into our old age.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/21 12:08 AM
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Birth rate is down in the west. I would imagine that this is likely caused by unrealistic standards among feminist women (and, really, all western women are feminists these days).
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/21 07:18 PM
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They're representative of feminists as a whole.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/21 06:28 PM
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That's true. But there are plenty of others that are childless (look at FDS - they are mostly childless and should definitely remain so).
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/21 05:27 PM
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I've noticed that women do this often when losing an argument - focusing on incorrect grammar and misspellings. What makes this different is that I actually agree with you that I made a spelling/grammar mistake. It seems that you're still harping on it to avoid acknowledging your losing argument. How is that working out for you?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/21 05:25 PM
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I never really looked at that study, but I was under the impression that it was about the 80/20 rule and basically shows that women are attracted to Chad.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/21 05:21 PM
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Yes and I acknowledged that I misspelled that in my last comment. I don't need help. I've dated women of all races. I'm not the racist one here. So I really should be saying that to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/21 11:12 AM
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First, weightism is defined on dictionary.com: https://www.dictionary.com/browse/weightism. So it does appear to be a word (though I do acknowledge that I seem to have misspelled it). Second, yes, I call women out for being racist and heightist (among other things). Feel free to call me out on my weightism (although the argument can be made that one can change their weight, but can't change their race so that type of discrimination isn't as bad). I don't care whether or not people care about my …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/21 10:59 AM
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This is off-topic and not my argument in this context. However, since you mention it, when I was dating (I'm engaged now), I complained anonymously online as a way to blow off steam after a rejection. I would viciously attack women on reddit and other forums (not physically, of course). It made me feel much better. Usually, I would be over it within a day and then move on while getting my anger out and not causing any problems in my personal life. I still do this when I get into an argument with…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/21 10:14 AM
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It's racist. Period. If you single someone out because of their race (which is what you are doing by not dating them), you are racist. I don't date fat women. So I'm weightest. I've dealt with that.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/21 10:10 AM
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The argument is not whether or not complaining is beneficial. If you read the above comments (and really the thread topic in general), the women here are basically saying that it's their right to reject a man for any reason, but they don't like when men complain about this. My argument was that, while they may not like men complaining about this, men are entitled to complain about it if they'd like for the same reason that women can reject whoever they want for any reason: freedom of expression.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/21 09:13 AM
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That doesn't make it less racist. If you are not attracted to someone because of their race, you're racist. It's simple.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/21 09:10 AM
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Men have always been willing to compromise. Don't justify your unrealistic expectations (and those of your sisters) by making up a false narrative about men. FWIW, I think that western women should only pursue the top men and then stay single when most can't get them. It would be great to just eliminate those women from the gene pool.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/21 08:13 AM
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Fair enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/21 06:33 AM
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That's true, but, in the hypothetical case that you mentioned above, it's not that you weren't interested in the guy per se. You weren't interested in his facial hair. I certainly wouldn't take that as a rejection (plus, it could be a good shit test to see how he handles rejection).
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/21 06:24 AM
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It depends. I can't speak for anyone else, but, if I'm told something about a behavior of mine or something else that's changeable, I'll reflect on that and decide if what they're saying is true and, if true, whether or not I actually want to change it. If it's something that I can't change, then, yes, I won't respond well to that (like for example, if someone told me to be less white or be taller).
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/21 06:13 AM
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I, personally, don’t see an issue with it if it’s a changeable trait. I’m from New York though and I welcome open and honest communication. I’ve found that, in other parts of the country, people are more sensitive about these kinds of things.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/21 05:24 AM
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'hey, I think you're cute, but only when you're clean shaven' Why would this be a bad thing to tell someone?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/21 04:36 AM
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If you don't find a person attractive specifically because of their race, then you are racist. The motivations behind that lack of attraction are irrelevant.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/21 04:20 AM
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Comparing men casually fucking hot women to women casually fucking hot men is like comparing apples to oranges.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/21 04:09 AM
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Engaged guy here (by definition, not an incel). I think that women who turn down men because of their race are racist.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/21 04:08 AM
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We want what we want. That's why. If you don't like facial hair, then just tell the guy to shave.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/21 04:04 AM
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Men have just as much of a right to complain about their lack of dating success as women have to reject men for all kinds of crazy reasons.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/21 03:58 AM
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And what data is that?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/21 02:08 AM
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Women are a monolith in what they find attractive. The short, bald, Asian, unsocial basement dweller is a meme for a reason. These are traits that women universally find unattractive. If women end up with a man with one of these traits, it's despite having the trait, not because of it. Men are more varied in what they're attracted to and are more willing to compromise. I agree with you there.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/21 11:38 PM
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This isn't true. I've had enthusiastic sex partners that were one night stands or friends. And I'm a short guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/21 08:12 PM
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It was written by a woman, one of your sisters. Therefore, it cannot be misogynistic.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/21 06:38 PM
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It was slowly happening over the course of several decades. I'm Italian-American. Italians used to have many different "Little Italy" neighborhoods in the US. They were close knit communities where people understood each other's problems, had a shared culture, and helped each other. This is currently true of places like China town. As people from these communities assimilate into what is basically a soulless, consumer-driven country, they lose their cultural identities and their close-knit commu…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/21 07:11 AM
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That doesn't negate what I wrote. As I said, it isn't JUST the money that these women are attracted to. It's the status of marrying a white American. It's hypergamy. In any event, it simply is not a good idea to bring a foreign woman back to the US unless you know her culture well, know her family well, and have been married with kids for several years in her home country. I've never stated otherwise.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/21 07:05 AM
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I'm not stoic. I'm Italian and, thus, quite open. I'm not shitting on people opening up, which is a good thing. I'm shitting on people for being fat. People are fat because they can't handle their emotions and overeat. Also, they lack any kind of self-discipline.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/21 02:00 AM
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Diversity and the lack of any culture in the US (besides consumerism) has also led to a decrease in community. I believe this to be the biggest cause.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/21 01:44 AM
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Yes, if they just took care of themselves, they wouldn't be lonely.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/21 01:39 AM
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It isn't just wealth. In many countries, both white and American are considered to be higher status. This is why it's a good idea for white American men that are considered lower value in the west to move to these countries: they will finally end up on the winning end of hypergamy.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/21 01:22 AM
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It's the fault of fat people for being fat. If a fat person developed some self-discipline and got off their fat asses every once in a while, then they wouldn't be fat. Simple.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/21 01:20 AM
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Would you say that you are more black pill than red pill?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/21 04:30 AM
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I didn't see that other comment until I already responded here. Anyway, the men fleeing were fleeing for a reason. They were likely working with Americans. If they were married, their wives were likely feminists also working with Americans. The submissive women are likely married to Taliban men and are, thus, protected.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/21 04:01 AM
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An argument can be made that, if these men actually have families (which cannot be proven or disproven), they are enemies of the Taliban (otherwise, why would they be fleeing?). Therefore, they were likely in allegiance with Americans and Afghan women who were feminists. They were likely not with submissive women and were, therefore, not likely masculine men. The submissive women would have stayed with their Taliban husbands and would be protected now.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/21 03:59 AM
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It's possible. We don't know either way, which is why making these kinds of assumptions (and an entire thread based on a possibly incorrect assumption) makes no sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/21 03:56 AM
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How do you know that all of those guys at the airport have families? Maybe they are all or mostly single guys.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/21 03:55 AM
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Arguments like this is why we will never go back. Of course we won't go back, barring a black swan event. The sexual affirmation action program for men who don't deserve to lead or mate is over. What is your criteria for a man who "deserves to lead and mate"?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/21 11:43 PM
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I agree with him when it comes to tattoos and female promiscuity. I, personally, think that tattoos are trashy and would not date a girl that has tattoos. I'm also a proud judgmental asshole so I, overall, like the cut of this guy's jib. However, he seems socially awkward. You obviously can't go around lecturing people on their poor morals. You can think that and silently judge them, but it would be against your own best interest to make these views known outside of a trusted close circle (and t…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/21 09:18 PM
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I would say that, on very basic terms, yes, it's us or them. There is a middle ground, but the west is too far gone for that. I only see relations between western men and western women declining further (which is not necessarily a bad thing). Unfortunately, humans seem to have a problem with avoiding extremes - most western countries that heavily favor women and middle eastern countries heavily favor men. The middle ground, currently, can be found in more moderate countries that neither worship …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/21 08:58 PM
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The system that you're talking about has been in place for hundreds of years, at least. Certainly, the younger generations (the majority of incels and RP) have no input on the current system and will not for some time.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/21 08:52 PM
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No man that is alive today built the current system. Just FYI.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/21 03:40 PM
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It's true. Men previously had control of the situation, but allowed women to gain rights. This was a mistake and has hurt western men as a whole. It seems that OP doesn't realize that women are comfortable admitting truths (they do so via writing anonymously online and their actions). Many men give up and let themselves go because they realize the futility of it all.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/21 03:32 PM
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The ideal situation for most men in most situations would be returning to a time when women had no rights. This is off the table (unless we somehow have some kind of Afghan revolution in the west). So many men are taking a sensible approach and just not trying at all. What else would you have them do?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/21 03:29 PM
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The problem with this logic is that many men already know what women want (either on a conscious or subconscious levels): primarily looks and height. Anyone that doesn't meet this strict criteria will be mostly SOL. I would think that more men knowing the truth will just lead to even more men dropping out. So I don't think it's in women's best interests to have these honest conversations.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/21 03:17 PM
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Some were. Most weren't.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/21 02:00 PM
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They shouldn't. Western women should absolutely just stay away from men.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/21 05:59 AM
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This isn't super surprising. I'm 5'6 and have had at least 30 sex partners (I stopped counting after 20 or so). With that said (and despite being engaged), I still consider myself to be blackpill.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/21 01:29 AM
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I think once you hit a certain height, there are diminishing returns. One of my best friends is 6'5. He's a good-looking guy too, but he's terribly clumsy. When we used to go out to clubs and parties, he would trip and fall fairly often and everybody would notice because he was one of the tallest guys there. He did have women throwing themselves at him, but he had a lot of trouble sealing the deal. He was just an awkward guy. He always told me that he wishes he was like 5'10 lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/21 01:26 AM
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This describes my entire youth pretty much. I've literally turned down girls who were naked in my bed because, at the last minute, I decided they weren't hot enough or I just didn't feel like having sex with them.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/21 12:24 AM
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Ah damn. I thought we were about to have a meaningful and philosophical discussion without any attempts at being insulting. I guess my expectations of having this kind of interaction with a feminist were too high.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/21 07:08 PM
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We probably wouldn't stop reproducing entirely, but reproduction rates would eventually decline to the point of it becoming a detriment for society as a whole (unless machines can take the place of humans, which has the potential to cause other problems).
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/21 05:42 PM
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Wait until feminism takes hold throughout the world. This will take time, but will likely lead to the population peaking within the next 50 years and declining afterwards. If feminism continues into the distant future, populations will eventually become extinct.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/21 04:59 PM
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This isn't really true. I'm short (by definition, unattractive) and I literally had my pick of women when I went to clubs. OLD was another story lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/21 08:53 AM
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I'm not sure where you're getting all of this from, but your anger is palpable. As I said previously, I recommend that you seek help. I wish you the best of luck in resolving your issues.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/21 08:37 AM
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You are projecting your anger onto me. I said that you come off as nasty and bitter because that's how your comments read. Maybe you have a past trauma or something. If so, your views on men are understandable. In any event, I sincerely hope that you resolve these issues for your own sake. Take care.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/21 08:21 AM
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Oh look, another man who thinks I agree with the loser women on FDS because I don’t think ugly men not getting laid makes them a victim. Not getting hot women to touch your peepee isn’t a problem. There are actual problems in this world. This isn’t one. You certainly talk like the women on there. And you certainly lack empathy. I think it's good that you don't want to get married or have children. You shouldn't. I 100% advocate for women to hold out for Chad, or be happy alone. Because if you se…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/21 08:12 AM
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​ They actually get hit on and complimented by women, an apparent myth to all the men on here. Not sure what your point is here. I think most men on PPD agree that Chads get hit on by women often. This is what I mean by men wanting women to believe ugly= good guy. Nah. We’re not fooled. I'm going by my own experiences and observations. I have not met many ugly guys that are as bad as you say and have not met many good-looking guys who are as good as you say. However, the very vast majority of un…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/21 07:52 AM
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It's clear from this comment that you don't know what the word "precedent" means. You cannot be actively experiencing a precedent. If you are, then it is not a precedent. To reiterate, I am not dreaming of the past nor am I saying that the future will be like the past nor am I saying that I want the future to be like the past. I am saying that men controlling women worked in the past and was responsible for building and maintaining society successfully for thousands of years.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/21 07:28 AM
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Most ugly men I know are horrible human beings. All of my guy friends who are attractive AF, are also kind and smart and have personality, and don’t struggle with these problems. This is the halo effect. I wonder how well you actually know these guys. Most good-looking guys that I know (including some of my best friends) are serial cheaters, but women look past that because of their looks. Truthfully, with ugly guys, if they're bitter, they're probably bitter for a reason. I'm not personally ugl…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/21 07:24 AM
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We're not talking about what happened at the beginning of human history. There is now a precedent, which was stated in my original comment, that society was built and successfully managed by men who controlled women for thousands of years. There is no such precedent that shows that women are able to control men or that they would succeed in maintaining society, if they were somehow able to control men, for thousands of years.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/21 07:07 AM
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That's just your theory. There is no historical precedent to show that this could be successful.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/21 06:59 AM
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You've misinterpreted post, Ms. Angry, Bitter FDS Lady. I never said that it will happen moving forward nor did I say that I even want it to happen. I simply stated that it worked very well in the past, which it clearly.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/21 06:50 AM
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To be fair, you don't really know what guys here act like in real life. Maybe they are very charismatic with good personalities. Anyway, most women that I know openly and happily brush off short men, balding men, and slightly awkward men. These 3 things alone account for a significant portion of the male population. Many of the women that I know openly compete for the best looking, highest status man possible. For reference, I've also done a lot of things - formerly in the military, then worked …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/21 06:47 AM
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It's already happened and it's proven to work on a societal level.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/21 06:42 AM
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Wouldn't you want biological grandchildren? What's the point of having children at all if you don't plan to pass on a part of yourself?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/21 06:39 AM
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Controlling women worked for thousands of years during which our entire society was built. It's a clearly successful, tried-and-tested strategy.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/21 06:29 AM
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What women do you know? The women that I've met definitely want much more than "not a bum and won't cheat". Just look at all of the women on OLD and their insanely high standards. I feel like they're representative of all women.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/21 06:16 AM
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It's easy to make a woman cum. The guy just needs to get to know her body. The extremely high standards that women have (from what I've personally observed) is based on things that aren't changeable for men - their looks and height - and things that are difficult to change - core personality and financial situation.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/21 05:58 AM
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I highly doubt that most men have success online. Most guys that I know matched with girls far below their objective looks-match. I think men go on OLD because they just don't want to approach women in person. Back when I used to do the PUA thing in the late 2000s/early 2010s, this was called approach anxiety. Focusing on OLD takes the risk of blatant rejection away. But approaching in person can lead to better returns. In some ways we agree that most men consider OLD to be their "best habitat",…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/21 01:13 AM
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It's pretty easy to not be creepy.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/21 04:44 AM
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Just about every thread on FDS is some form of male bashing. It's very rare to see advice actually being given.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/21 04:43 AM
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FDS isn't banned and they're just as bad as TRP. In fact, they're lauded by many media outlets.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/21 04:07 AM
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Having a successful cold approach is more likely than getting struck by lightning lol. I don't why men have migrated online. OLD sucks for most men.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/21 12:35 AM
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What rule specifies that?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/21 05:54 PM
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Porn addiction, at worst, is nothing more than a psychological addiction. We're not talking about heroin here, where people will experience severe physical pain from withdrawal, or alcohol addiction, where people can die if they suddenly if they stop without tapering. It's just porn. The solution to watching porn constantly is to stop watching porn so much.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/21 05:54 PM
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Where?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/21 02:10 PM
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Yes, but it can be used for a flame war.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/21 05:59 AM
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I did have some dates off OLD when I was on there, but the girls I got IRL were much hotter. Well, I'm short. But that rarely ever came up (and I don't have any stories where a girl found out my height and ghosted me). I've often heard that I look way better IRL than in photos. So that's more than likely the reason.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/21 05:58 AM
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My fiancee doesn't carry mace. So that's one way. In all seriousness, I just went up to her and complimented her on her scarf. Nothing fancy. I'm in my mid-30s. I've been cold approaching since I was a teenager. Never been maced, slapped, or anything else.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/21 05:55 AM
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I met her 4 years ago. That's recent enough to think that it could still happen.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/21 08:11 PM
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She's still an adult. I made good choices at 18. Young women can too.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/21 08:10 PM
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I met my fiancee by cold approaching her at a store.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/21 06:49 PM
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Real life cold approaches are definitely better than OLD in my experience. It's not even close. I met my fiancee by cold approaching her at a store.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/21 06:23 PM
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Bars are definitely better than OLD in my experience. It's not even close.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/21 06:19 PM
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Did you forget that this is a red pill vs. blue pill sub? It's not like this concept is out of left field.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/21 06:11 PM
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If she's 18, she isn't a child and should have some common sense. Her parents should have instilled values in her that would prevent her from doing this and she should be smart enough to realize that this isn't a good idea. If the above isn't true, she'll be fucked in life anyway. Ultimately, freedom of expression is important and core tenet of American life. It shouldn't be limited because a few (adult) idiots don't use their brains when making decisions.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/21 06:10 PM
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Just about everybody watches porn. The kids/adults that get fucked up by it probably have some kind of underlying issue to begin with. Why limit porn for everybody for the few idiots that can't control themselves?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/21 06:06 PM
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I don't think that happens. Girls find out about OnlyFans from their friends and get involved in it because it's easy money.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/21 07:30 AM
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That's not an example of grooming then if she's choosing to get into it for the money. If anything, it's just a stupid decision on her part.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/21 07:30 AM
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I don't think betas get enough action to justify not watching porn. Alphas don't need porn.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/21 07:28 AM
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My dude, I don’t need you to tell me I’m fine the way I am. I know that. I don’t know how old you are but someone on the internet judging me based on one thing I said and coming to the conclusion that I’m fucked up says more about them than me. Am I fucked up when it comes to some things? Sure. Is it something I can get better at? Absolutely. Does that mean as a whole I’m a fucked up person? No. You said something along the lines of "porn fucked me up". I was echoing your statement that you made…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/21 07:27 AM
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You're fine the way you are. Most people in our generation are complete degenerates. I actually had to start fucking women right away (when I was still single) because I would lose women to other men when I didn't do so. So, depending on what you're looking for and where you're located, you probably would be doing yourself a disservice from an attractiveness standpoint if you become "less fucked up".
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/21 02:54 AM
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It's an exaggeration to get my point across. My point is that porn didn't fuck you up. You were already fucked up. Many people watch porn as children and it doesn't fuck them up.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/21 02:44 AM
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Oh okay. You're talking about the beta bucks guys that women settle for when Chad won't commit. Gotcha.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/21 02:41 AM
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This is not a bad thing given that women only want the top men anyway. So give the beta men their porn and they won't need real women anymore (which will benefit both men and women).
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/21 02:40 AM
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This is bullshit. I watched porn as a kid too and I'm not a sex fiend. I've always preferred sex within relationships. I prefer not having sex with women immediately (though, unfortunately, this is not the best strategy in the modern dating landscape so I had to change my approach).
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/21 02:37 AM
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Groomed by who?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/21 02:35 AM
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They do it to make fast and easy money.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/21 02:34 AM
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This is nonsense. One of my childhood neighbors got into porn. Why? She was hot, dumb, and wanted fast money. She wasn't "groomed". Or are women only capable of making their own decisions when it adheres to the views of feminists?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/21 02:33 AM
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I don't think it's a big deal for boys to watch porn. In my experience, most women like hardcore, rough, degrading sex anyway, not unlike what you see in porn. I prefer gentle, loving sex. It was rare to find a woman that actually liked this.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/21 02:32 AM
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You underestimate how superficial most women are.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/21 02:16 AM
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This isn't true. Men are more honest than women when it comes to these kinds of things. I've told ugly people that they're ugly if they asked me. Of course, I don't randomly go around saying this to people.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/21 02:16 AM
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Women should stop thinking they're too good for men. Then this kind of thing wouldn't happen.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/21 02:10 AM
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They're blowing things out of proportion. Dating is not dangerous for women as long as they properly vet people. Don't go back to someone's apartment if you don't know them or if you don't plan on having sex with them. Don't walk in a bad area at night. This isn't rocket science, is it?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/21 02:08 AM
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Well, I'm engaged. So I haven't been rejected in a long time. Anyway, your response is very out of proportion to my response, leading me to question what else you exaggerate.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/21 02:05 AM
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Having long hair is not detrimental to one's health like being fat is. Fat women may not be able to have children and are likely to die younger. A man with long hair.....has long hair.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/21 02:00 AM
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Easy for a woman to say. Women almost never experience rejection.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/21 01:58 AM
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This is only for non-Chads. I guess that's one way for a person to know whether or not they are Chad.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/21 01:51 AM
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If you don't give a reason, it's pretty much the same thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/21 01:50 AM
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You still slept with him. So you didn't reject him. Way to be super shallow though.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/21 01:47 AM
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I think women should be honest when a guy is ugly. He won't get false hope and will probably stop trying with women (though he might go on a shooting spree, which.....fair enough).
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/21 01:32 AM
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A rejection is literally a woman saying that the man is not good enough for her. While I don't personally respond poorly to rejection (because I feel that it doesn't do any good), I understand why guys do and it's perfectly sensible to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/21 01:25 AM
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Eh, I doubt that this happens as much as women say. I think it's a cop out because they don't want to ruin the benefits they get from having orbiters. I've never seen anything like you describe and have certainly never done it myself.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/21 01:13 AM
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I think it would be better if women were honest. If all women just came out and said "I am not attracted to short men under any circumstance" (which is true in most cases), short men would eventually learn to either just be alone forever or leave the country. But they don't say that. They dangle the carrot either for personal gain or just to avoid confrontation.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/21 12:59 AM
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Nah, being a single woman is better. Dating is like a buffet for them. As a woman, just don't put yourself in bad situations and bad things won't happen.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/21 12:57 AM
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Sounds like victim blaming to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/21 12:55 AM
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Practically the same number. I always tell short guys to just not try at all (or leave the US).
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/21 12:53 AM
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It's definitely possible to pick up women at a park, gym, or store. I did all three in the past. Of course, this was before OLD became mainstream and before MeToo and other such nonsense. In any event, I'm engaged and I doubt my fiancee would like me trying to pick up women anywhere. I was just making a general statement based on your advice in the previous comment.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/21 09:33 PM
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Just a tip: I wouldn't advise normal men to approach women in the US with confidence. You're obviously a Chad so you can get away with it, but this could be enough to get a lot of non-Chads arrested.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/21 08:22 AM
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That's not what that poster meant and you know it. It is not possible for an actual man to turn into an actual woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/21 08:16 AM
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The problem that I have with these types of tests is that the results change over time. When I first took this test, in my early 20s, I was INTJ. Then, in my late 20s, I was INTP. Now, in my mid-30s, I'm ISTJ. Either way, I'm 34, male, engaged, blue pill -> red pill -> black pill -> reddish black pill.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/21 07:00 AM
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I'm in my 30s. I graduated from college over a decade ago. As I said, I dislike women in general, but that doesn't mean that I hold these attitudes towards every single woman that I know. I don't feel this way about individual women if they prove to be worthy of respect. These women include my fiancee, my mother, and some of my female friends. If I have a daughter, I will raise her properly to not act like a typical modern woman. If she acts like a modern woman anyway, well that's on her.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/21 07:27 PM
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Well, college does happen in real life and women are generally the most attractive during this period in their lives. So that definitely says something. I didn't say that being sexist will get the guy a solid relationship. It will certainly get him laid though. But what do I know? I still hold what many would consider sexist attitudes and I'm engaged.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/21 03:19 AM
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Plenty of women do partner with such men.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/21 03:15 AM
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Being mommy mcbangmaid is just appealing to women's strengths. What's so bad about that?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/21 01:36 AM
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I think you just have a dirty mind. The guys are probably just desperate and these are the only women that are into them. That's been the truth for skinny men that I know who married fat women.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/21 01:26 AM
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This just shows that women are more shallow than men.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/21 01:14 AM
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That's not true. I've always held sexist attitudes. I even had a reputation for it in college. A few women were turned off, but most wanted to sleep with me because I was the bad boy. I have never been more successful with women than when I was open about my misogyny.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/21 01:10 AM
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Tons of men would out of desperation.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/21 01:07 AM
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Men don't have high standards in the US. They can't afford to. Women have insanely high standards.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/21 01:06 AM
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Men are less shallow than women in general, but I would agree that people of both sexes are generally pretty bad, yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/21 01:05 AM
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Therapy is a cop out answer. American society is abusive towards short men. No degree of talking about it will help. Just because you don't respond to it doesn't mean it isn't there. A guy deluding himself into thinking that this isn't an issue is not successful. A guy who settles for a woman settling for him is not successful. Short guys should leave the US and move to countries where they'll be more accepted. Doing what's in your own best interest (and doing so proudly) is the best confidence …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/21 01:03 AM
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Sorry to hear that you have a son, man. I almost feel like having a son these days is akin to child abuse (this is an exaggeration, but not too far from the truth). I hope that I have all daughters, personally.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/21 12:58 AM
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They aren't mysterious. They're all over the world. Just not in the US.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/21 12:50 AM
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By "successful", I mean wealthy and financially free. I don't view short men who learn to accept the disrespect and abuse that is common in the US as successful. As a man, if I had to worry about constantly making up for and convincing women to overlook a core part of me that really isn't even a flaw to begin with, then I am not successful. I would argue that that may even indicate low self-esteem.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/21 12:49 AM
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Anger gives men motivation. It's a good thing. I, personally, dislike American women (though I have the ability to deceive people IRL that I don't dislike them). My anger gave me the motivation to start a business and give myself the option of leaving the US to find better women in greener pastures. Tell your friend that he's justified in his feelings and should consider moving to a place where the women are better.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/21 12:37 AM
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What does a single guy have to gain from constantly harping on this statement (which I don't believe is true) to excuse his failed dating exploits? Does it simply make him feel better to devalue the group that he feels has excluded him? It's good for motivation to seek out greener pastures. I usually encourage low value men to move to a third world country. But you need a lot of motivation to set up a successful life in one of these places. Anger at the hand you've been dealt is a good way to ge…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/21 11:07 PM
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Nah, it's a bad attitude. It's good to get mad. It can serve as motivation to accomplish seemingly impossible things. Why do you think there are so many super successful short guys?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/21 10:43 PM
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While "6, 6, 6" isn't technically true, most women definitely want a tall guy and, if possible, status. There's nothing wrong with being mad about these injustices though, as long as you use that anger productively.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/21 10:38 PM
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Women do have it easier. And, in general, those are the only things they care about. However, there is a very small subset of women that actually prefer guys that aren't like that. That's the pool that most men have to select from (and the pool from which I found my fiancee).
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/21 10:31 PM
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Personally, I believe that if you something bad enough, you'll go after it naturally. While I sound unemotional here, I'm not. I'm Italian so I have a fiery temper and display passion very easily. I am very calculating though. You can't blame your parents for everything. If you don't like your situation, it's up to you to change it. In terms of your general personality, I believe it's genetic. So you may have been the same no matter how your parents raised you. For example, my parents are both s…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/21 06:18 AM
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It signifies destabilization and chaos. I like calmness and stability, personally. I agree that getting married in the US is a bad idea. But I also think that not having a family is a bad idea. Luckily, there are other options for now.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/21 02:10 AM
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Oh, the US has its own, large chunk of societal problems present and future, believe me. Believe you? Why should I? You're not American and do not live here. I'm not too worried about a smaller population. First of all, most Western countries will be able to take on debts to finance their social programs. If it worked for the 2009 crash and the Covid-19 crisis, it will work again. It will get easier after the baby boomer generation dies. Second, Europe also has a large supply of migrants wishing…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/21 02:35 PM
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Oh, the US has its own, large chunk of societal problems present and future, believe me. Believe you? Why should I? You're not American and do not live here. I'm not too worried about a smaller population. First of all, most Western countries will be able to take on debts to finance their social programs. If it worked for the 2009 crash and the Covid-19 crisis, it will work again. It will get easier after the baby boomer generation dies. Second, Europe also has a large supply of migrants wishing…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/21 02:23 PM
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Oh, the US has its own, large chunk of societal problems present and future, believe me. Believe you? Why should I? You're not American and do not live here. I'm not too worried about a smaller population. First of all, most Western countries will be able to take on debts to finance their social programs. If it worked for the 2009 crash and the Covid-19 crisis, it will work again. It will get easier after the baby boomer generation dies. Second, Europe also has a large supply of migrants wishing…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/21 02:23 PM
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Oh, the US has its own, large chunk of societal problems present and future, believe me. Believe you? Why should I? You're not American and do not live here. I'm not too worried about a smaller population. First of all, most Western countries will be able to take on debts to finance their social programs. If it worked for the 2009 crash and the Covid-19 crisis, it will work again. It will get easier after the baby boomer generation dies. Second, Europe also has a large supply of migrants wishing…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/21 02:22 PM
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Another problem is that she seems to think that the fact that Chad had to put in work to get her should somehow make non-Chads feel better about their own situation. Not sure why she would think this. I also wonder if these kinds of threads are just OP humble bragging about making Chad work for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/21 02:06 PM
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Another problem is that she seems to think that the fact that Chad had to put in work to get her should somehow make non-Chads feel better about their own situation. Not sure why she would think this. I also wonder if these kinds of threads are just OP humble bragging about making Chad work for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/21 02:06 PM
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Another problem is that she seems to think that the fact that Chad had to put in work to get her should somehow make non-Chads feel better about their own situation. Not sure why she would think this. I also wonder if these kinds of threads are just OP humble bragging about making Chad work for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/21 02:06 PM
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Another problem is that she seems to think that the fact that Chad had to put in work to get her should somehow make non-Chads feel better about their own situation. Not sure why she would think this. I also wonder if these kinds of threads are just OP humble bragging about making Chad work for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/21 02:06 PM
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If anything, the fact that even Chad had to do work to get you shows that average to below average guys really don't have any chance. You really should not be making these kinds of threads since they are hypocritical based on your situation.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/21 02:03 PM
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I tend to avoid people when possible (even in my work, I've transitioned to an entrepreneur after 10 years as a dutiful employee). But if I have to deal with them, it's pretty easy to size people up and determine their personality types and what they respond to. For example, my parents needed to get my 30-something year old brother out of the house. He was barely working and dropped out of school multiple times. He has good intentions, but he is a weak-minded follower who can't really think outs…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/21 10:40 PM
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There are more than two ways to be a parent. I never said anything about money and I don't plan on spending time away from my kids. Not sure what gave you that impression. I won't be their friend either (because I'm their parent). Have fun being a "cool" parent and having irresponsible, stupid, and entitled children that will grow up to be irresponsible, stupid, and entitled adults. No, losing population is not a good thing. In many countries (Italy and Japan come to mind), it's becoming a probl…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/21 10:25 PM
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Yeah and most of the countries in Europe are having population problems. Wonder why that is. It's not that 35+ women aren't marriage material. It's that they're statistically less likely to be able to have children at that age. But, yes, in general, western women are sluts and that's a bad thing. I also think that it's a bad idea to marry a feminist. Again, while these countries may have good economic output now, they won't be once their population declines enough (which will happen due to femin…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/21 03:48 PM
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Equal rights is not beneficial for me. So I don't like it. I'm an educated professional. There are plenty of us out there. We just know how to identify people like you and we don't talk to you about it. Western countries are declining in population. Eventually, that will affect our economics and standing in the world. That's not a successful method for controlling others in real life. There are better ways.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/21 06:55 AM
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This was the original argument: "TRP takes a more dishonest predatory approach to dating than FDS. TRP encourages users to outright lie and manipulate women, while FDS mostly just advises users to hold out infinitely until they snare the kind of guy they have in mind." This does not say that TRP is worse. It basically just states that TRP manipulates women to get laid, while FDS doesn't advocate manipulating men.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/21 06:59 PM
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Nice. Get destroyed in an argument, then run away with your tail in between your legs. Typical nonsensical feminist.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/21 06:54 PM
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If you actually do have a degree in linguistics (doubtful), it's obviously a sham program. Perhaps you're the type of person who does well in school, but doesn't really grasp the concepts. Also, I find it hard to believe that an educated person would come to a debate forum and not know the difference between an anecdote and actual evidence. Then when said person gets called out on that, they revert to childish grammar corrections and insults (when their own grammar is poor). Give that degree bac…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/21 06:54 PM
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I didn't say that TRP is worse. Where did I say that? Show me. Holy crap. Do you know how to read?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/21 06:14 PM
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I do linguistics, my entire degree is language. Conversate is not a word. However, since so many idiots such as yourself use it, it’s become slang. Your "entire" degree? As opposed to what? I bet you have some shitty bachelor's degree from some crap school. Everybody has a bachelor's degree. It isn't impressive. Conversate is literally in the Oxford Dictionary. It's a word. It's just a non-standard word like "Google". Have you ever used the term "Google"? It's the same thing. And you're a moron …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/21 06:08 PM
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Seriously, what kind of learning disability do you have? Or maybe you just can't read? I did not define "verification". I defined "manipulation". And your argument isn't actually an argument, as previously discussed.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/21 05:57 PM
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I actually am extremely tech savvy. In fact, my business expertise is in SAAS. Anyway, I am not surprised that you're a male feminist. It was immediately obvious to me. Again, as I previously stated, the part of the world that's growing the most adheres to extremely traditional values, far more conservative than anyone in the US. It's possible that things will not progress in the way that you think it will. Anyway, my goal is not to be the "cool" parent or grandparent. That's how kids grow up wi…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/21 05:58 AM
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Here is the definition of manipulation: "control or influence (a person or situation) cleverly, unfairly, or unscrupulously." The entire purpose of TRP tactics are to persuade women into sleeping with them (aka influence). They do so with clever techniques. FDS literally has no tactics to persuade men of anything. You don't know what verifiable means. You are stating your opinion and you haven't proven anything. Go back to school, kid. You have no idea how to have a debate or create an argument.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/21 05:49 AM
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Welcome to feminism.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/21 04:31 AM
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The fact you use “conversate” honestly just shows how uneducated you are in general. You do realize that "conversate" is a word, right? In all likelihood, I'm more educated than you are. Also, your statement is missing a few commas. It's very ironic when people comment on grammar, but don't know proper grammar themselves. I do have evidence! The fact that I’m a woman and know women are multi-dimensional. That's not evidence. That's an anecdote. Your lack of education is showing again. ;) Honestl…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/21 02:41 AM
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Chad doesn't need to conversate as much because of his looks. Average men need to talk more because that's literally all they can do (that women will respond to). I've certainly talked my way into women's pants before. My Chad friends do not need to do this. Do you have any evidence that women require as much conversation from average looking men as they do from Chads before going to bed with them? Of course you don't. Because this would be difficult to measure. Any argument here (from either of…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/21 11:16 PM
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Dude, you don't seem to have any understanding of the actual argument. The argument as stated by that poster: The core tenets of TRP includes manipulation. The core tenets of FDS do not include manipulation, just complaining and that extremely high standards imposes on men. What isn't being argued (or stated): Men are worse than women (or visa versa). Women engage in manipulation tactics. TRP is worse than FDS or FDS is worse than TRP. Manipulation is a bad thing. Personally, I do not like FDS n…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/21 11:11 PM
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She's definitely anti-male. Have you actually read her posts?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/21 10:03 PM
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Red pill theory includes theories on how to get women into bed. Actionable theories. This isn't a bad thing, but it is manipulation. FDS is not manipulation. They don't have strategies that convince men to want them. Their strategies revolve around rejecting men. That's not manipulation. Yes, I'm sure they use sex as a weapon, but this not a core tenet among FDS women and it is rarely, if ever, talked about between normal women. So, you are just wrong. There is nothing verifiable about your argu…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/21 10:02 PM
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That's not what I said. And it's off-topic. You do not seem to know how to stay on topic and formulate an argument.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/21 09:22 PM
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Women certainly can manipulate through sex. I've never stated otherwise. However, that is not something that I've ever seen discussed as a strategy on FDS. And that certainly isn't exclusive to FDS women (all women do it to some degree).
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/21 08:57 PM
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Yeah, but that isn't manipulation. I honestly think that FDS women are so entitled that they wouldn't "lower themselves" to try and manipulate men. I certainly think that FDS women are genuinely bad people who hate men, but I don't see how they're being manipulative.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/21 08:29 PM
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You have to spend time on both subs to really get it, but I agree with that poster (and if you look through my posting history, you will see that I'm certainly not pro-woman or pro-feminist lol).
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/21 08:18 PM
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This is a very good and concise analysis. Well done.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/21 08:16 PM
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I lurk regularly on FDS (out of sheer curiosity). Their laundry list is much longer than that. Basically, they all want conventional extremely good-looking and tall men that they also expect to worship them and pay for everything. It doesn't seem like they want quick marriage from what I've seen. I even talked to one on here that just wants to buy Chad male prostitutes without messing with non-prostitutes because "if men can do it, why can't I?" (direct quote). I agree with that last part of you…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/21 08:14 PM
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No. My mother and my maternal grandmother are/were saints. I was actually spoiled with them because I expected all women to be such caring, kind people. They were also very good with money and not materialistic. My realization that most women are not like that was what pushed me red. My fiancee is also great in this way. I have confirmed that she is an amazing woman surrounded by other amazing women. She is worthy of adoration, admiration, and pedestalization (Of course, I'm not blue pilled so I…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/21 08:05 PM
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I've heard bad things about Korean women. I hear that they are similar to American women. If this is the case, then the men are justified in their criticism.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/21 07:59 PM
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I'm aware. That's why I usually tell guys to avoid middle and upper class women in those countries. However, they are still better than American women because at least they're nicer and they have actual family values. It also depends on your definition of feminism. I'm fine with women working and whatnot, but, in the US, feminists actively hate men. American feminism is a hate group, plain and simple. I have never met a woman outside of the US that hates men (and I was born in Italy - which is a…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/21 07:58 PM
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That was my point. Age gap relationships are not beneficial for the younger party in either case.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/21 07:55 PM
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No. Who ever said that Russian women are submissive? Who said that I even want a submissive woman? And who said that I listen to pick up artists? You're making a lot of assumptions there.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/21 07:54 PM
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As long as she's willing to be a mother too, it's fine by me.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/21 07:52 PM
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It matters. They have different values in different countries. How many countries have you been to and which ones? My guess is that you're from a third world country, come from a middle class or upper class family, and have never been to another third world country.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/21 07:51 PM
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Yes, feminists are everywhere, but there are less of them and they are less vocal in third world countries. Again, ask me how I know.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/21 07:50 PM
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First, learn how to spell. If you don't speak native English, use google translate. This isn't rocket science. Second, most of what she wrote can apply to older women too (and it's worse since older women have difficulties getting pregnant in general). She just singled out men because she hates them.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/21 07:39 PM
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Yes, engineering is a masculine job. There are countries where women do not have similar mindsets. Ask me how I know. In terms of Russia, I did date a Russian woman that lived in the US. She was hot, but I wouldn't recommend it. Too materialistic.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/21 07:38 PM
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I've heard bad things about Argentina in terms of feminism. I wouldn't recommend that men go there.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/21 07:35 PM
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The need for it does decrease, yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/21 04:11 PM
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There are many girls that don’t have rape fantasies.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/21 02:55 PM
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It’s not, but there are ways of easily verifying these things.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/21 02:53 PM
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It will and it has.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/21 02:50 PM
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That degree of conversation decreases as the guy’s looks increase.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/21 02:49 PM
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Don’t be a simp. Women shouldn’t think like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/21 02:46 PM
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Nah she’s not western. Don’t be a simp.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/21 02:44 PM
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Then don't sleep around and you won't get pregnant. Feminists love divorce (look at the divorce rate) and hate commitment because it's too much work for them. They prefer to just sleep around. So of course they would not want early commitment or any commitment at all. I support it, honestly. I think feminists should just stay single or date each other.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/21 09:11 AM
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Well, the talking or smiling part is odd. I agree with that. I don't care whether abortion is legal or not, but it certainly wouldn't be a dealbreaker for me to be in a place where abortion is illegal. After all, it's easy enough to wear a condom. Anyway, feminists do not like commitment and do not value relationships. Therefore, they would be opposed to committing early on. "Gender equality" is code for feminist. So your views make sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/21 08:26 AM
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I know plenty of people that have regular nuclear families. Most of the friends that I grew up with had this. It's odd to me that you think that my situation is not the norm.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/21 08:21 AM
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I come from what can be defined as a perfect nuclear family. My parents do as well. It definitely isn't a myth.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/21 07:32 AM
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I’ve done very well for myself in business. I’ve done this by taking calculated risks. Marrying a feminist is a high risk, low return investment. Would you invest your life savings in a business that has a low probability of making money? I would certainly hope not. This is the same situation. I know several red pill guys in real life (even if they don’t call themselves red pill per se). Some are successful entrepreneurs. Some are doctors. They exist and they’re everywhere. But they won’t talk a…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/21 05:23 AM
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Did you get all of that from reading a Wikipedia article, kid? I'm not religious. I don't care for it, personally. However, I do care about my own long-term success. I do not wish to be divorce-raped. I don't wish to lose my kids when I have them. None of my ancestors have ever been divorced, in fact, and I certainly don't plan to be the first in line to do so. Good luck with your male feminist ideals, partner. It's interesting to me how so many men can be swindled by this new age nonsense, but …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/21 04:32 AM
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I can tell you're like 24, full of idealism with very little life experience. So I'll go easy on you. First, I'm engaged and will likely have children in a few years. Therefore, I will not be "left behind" even if I end up getting divorce raped. Second, I'm also highly educated and also live in an educated area. I've lived in several countries throughout the world and I was even born in another country (Do you think I came up with my username for shits and giggles?). Have you actually traveled b…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/21 03:55 AM
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You don’t need to. Your general tone and views are insulting enough. Take care.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/21 03:41 AM
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The only time men will care about income is if they themselves are high earners and scared of divorce rape. Men are not women. We don't care about income and the status that is associated with that income. In terms of looks, just don't be fat and men will think you're hot. Not being fat (which is extremely easy) will easily put you in the top 30% of American women.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/21 03:39 AM
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It's easy to not be ugly as a woman. Literally, just don't be fat. Of course, this would require self-discipline, which is damn near impossible for most American women.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/21 03:37 AM
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First, stop simping. No one likes a male feminist (not even women). Second, if that's your mindset, then you clearly don't want children.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/21 03:34 AM
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I wonder how miserable you must be to constantly spew nonsensical feminist ideology anonymously online while living in a country that, at best, doesn’t support your backwards ideals.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/21 03:30 AM
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I dislike Trump, but I can guarantee that he is higher value than anyone, man or woman, on PPD.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/21 03:25 AM
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Fair enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/21 02:19 AM
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I didn't say that gay marriage was the only thing that's destroying the sanctity of marriage. It was in sharp decline before then (starting with the legalization of no-fault divorce). And, yes, the nuclear family was a staple of American life when America was growing to become the superpower that it is today.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/21 01:00 AM
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Thank you. And I'm sorry too.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/21 10:56 PM
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Gay marriage further delegitimizes the sanctity of the institution of marriages, which has already been severely weakened by the advent of no-fault divorce (which allows for legally breaking a contract on questionable grounds). The destruction of the sanctity of marriage has led to a significant and nationwide disturbance of the nuclear family. The stability of the nuclear family is one of the principles that the civilized world was built on.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/21 10:39 PM
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I've achieved financial success and freedom. I'm also engaged. Women's liberation, in general, is bad for men because of the possibility of divorce rape. So I stand a high chance of being divorce raped. This scares me deeply. Women's liberation and the acceptance of homosexuality are representative of a move away from traditional values. This means no divorce (for no reason) and a stable relationship. Things are just too messy now. I want a return back to societal norms. Anything away from that …
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/21 10:08 PM
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Okay and young women being groomed or trafficked or whatever isn't my concern. Because that's boring as fuck.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/21 10:03 PM
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I don't think that gays are intentionally doing it. They can't help their natural instincts, after all. But, as a straight man that just wants stability, I need to look out for my own best interests. Anything that further destabilizes society is bad for me in the long run.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/21 10:02 PM
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Yes, life must be very difficult for you with that problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/21 09:57 PM
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Oh yeah? And what threat would I be making?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/21 07:56 PM
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The dating market, unfortunately, is the same place for everyone. So you most certainly have been in the same market. Fortunately (for both of us), we never crossed paths. Fortunately, I'm engaged and also off the market.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/21 07:03 PM
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ahahaha you expect me to believe that? You'd better provide several unbiased sources that state in no uncertain terms that feminism was created to benefit men. That's just absurd!
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/21 07:01 PM
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My interpretation of the OP was that it's not good for either men or women to be in an age gap relationship. I disagree, personally, but it's fair. Then she responds with reasons why it's only bad for women (and her argument is very questionable at best). But, overall, I just don't like that poster. She commonly spews uninformed, man-hating rhetoric despite living in a third world country. So I go after her when I see her posting one of her stupid arguments.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/21 07:00 PM
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I value stability, especially in marriage and my home life. The acceptance of gays, in my mind, goes hand-in-hand with feminism and is reflective of the moral decline of western countries. I believe that this acceptance contributes to an unstable society. In my opinion, this societal instability puts everything that I've worked so hard to achieve (in both financial and relationship aspects) at risk. That's the first (and primary) thing. The second thing is that I hate how homosexuality is pushed…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/21 06:56 PM
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Personally, I have never engaged with a self-identified feminist that did not 1) hate men and 2) dismiss every issue that men have. Believe it or not, I was actually a women's studies minor in college. Fancy that! I was one of the blue-pilled pussy guys that I despise so much now. Well, it was an eye opening experience to how women really think about men. Anyway, it is nice to have some interaction with a feminist who is actually reasonable. Sometimes, I forget that you ladies are out there. So …
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/21 06:48 PM
2

I have a Chinese visa. I would have moved there had it not been for the pandemic. Now, I'm engaged to a non-Chinese woman. So it wouldn't make sense. If you hate your own country's values so much, maybe you should move to a western country..... Oh wait, you can't because we don't want you ahahaha!
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/21 06:42 PM
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Italy (though I partially grew up in the US and hold dual citizenship).
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/21 06:33 PM
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Hopefully, Russia is getting soft. You would definitely get arrested for this type of rhetoric in China (and rightfully so).
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/21 06:28 PM
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This is actually a reasonable and thoughtful response. Well done!
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/21 06:25 PM
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At the very least, the bullshit you spew on Reddit should get you arrested if discovered, no?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/21 06:22 PM
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The only major issue that can't be controlled is the prevalence of autism. However, as I know from previously being a healthcare provider in the US, autism is severely over-diagnosed (like ADHD) - every kid (especially boys) that are a little off or don't fit the societal ideal of what a boy should act like is diagnosed with autism. But, ultimately, having an older woman is worse since they are less likely to be able to conceive at all past the age of 40. Just to state here: your anti-male posts…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/21 06:19 PM
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You agreed with my "feelings". So I guess it was a good enough argument.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/21 06:03 PM
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I said: "We all know that feminists never do anything to benefit men." You said: "No we don't." Glad we're in agreement there.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/21 06:00 PM
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I would hope that the Russian government would arrest known feminists. I heard how they arrested those LGBT protestors a few years ago, which I thought was a fantastic response.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/21 05:54 PM
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That may be true, but we all know that feminists never do anything to benefit men. So there must be something in it for them too.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/21 05:53 PM
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Lol that you think women only do things if males give them “leeway”. Not today, no. But in the days before feminism, absolutely. The reason why feminism has gotten so out of hand is the direct result of men simping and ignoring our own imperative for the female imperative. Men constantly allow themselves to be deceived by women. This still goes on today. It leads men to treat women like shit and claim it’s equality. Ever hear of “equal rights, equal lefts”? I guess when we got the vote it meant …
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/21 05:51 PM
1

"Deprioritizing sex as a signifier of masculinity" is just another attempt to appeal to the female imperative. This way, women don't have to deal with offers of sex (or sexual expectations) from non-Chad men, while ignoring a man's natural desire for sex. Nice try though.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/21 05:38 PM
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Does Putin know that you're a feminist?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/21 05:32 PM
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I think red pilled guys would be willing to be providers to normal women. But post-feminist sluts are not attracted to providers. So RP men are against it. It's not the idea of actually being a provider that RP guys are against though.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/21 05:30 PM
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I don't care what the legislature says. Especially these days, legislature in western countries will only serve to benefit women's prerogative. My point is that if lying is considered rape, then makeup should also be considered rape.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/21 05:13 PM
1

You're entitled because you're fat and want a very good-looking guy. You refuse to date your looks-match. That's being entitled. The truth hurts sometimes. But that's how we grow as people (metaphorically, of course - wouldn't want to encourage physical growth in this situation haha).
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/21 05:11 PM
2

My bad. I misinterpreted what you said.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/21 05:08 PM
1

Disgusting attitude. You are a stereotypical entitled women. Date your looks-match or improve yourself (4 pounds is not an accomplishment). You do realize that you actually have to offer the man something too, right? Based on your attitude, it's good that you have decided to stay single.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/21 05:06 PM
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Not surprised. Well, then just be honest with your mother: "Mom, I'm only attracted to really good-looking guys who have a lot of options. They are out of my league. So this is why I'm single. I refuse to settle for my looks-match." I'm sure you'll get shit for it, but at least you're being honest and your mother might leave you alone.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/21 05:03 PM
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You don't get it. "Wanna fuk" is 0% effort. Chads have to put in slightly more (but not much more) effort than that.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/21 04:58 PM
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That's not what I said. Deception can come in any form, including lying about one's appearance. If smooth talking is considered rape, then makeup should also be considered rape.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/21 04:57 PM
1

ahahaha stop being so butthurt, bro. It's a bad look. I'm engaged. So clearly in a relationship with a clearly wet dick. I don't support kinks because I don't support feminism. I'm not a male feminist like yourself and would never let my girl get away with this kind of nonsense. On a serious note, you should be ashamed of yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/21 04:54 PM
1

This is nonsense. Feminism was led by a few mentally unstable women who managed to convince every other woman that they need a man like a fish needs a bicycle. Men were at fault for giving them too much leeway and things got out of hand. Either way, if I was a man in power when this was going on, I would have crushed it real quick (although, to be fair, that assumes that I know what I know now - perhaps I would have been bluepilled and would have thought better of women). Now American women are …
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/21 04:52 PM
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Europeans don't have the greatest values either (I should know given that I partially grew up in Europe). So that isn't really a bad thing. They also have plummeting birth rates, which is also a good thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/21 04:47 PM
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> But if dating in general had forced me to be exclusive with other people before him I may have just not dated. Good. We need slutty women out of the dating market.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/21 04:45 PM
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I do kink shame. It's good for long-term relationship success. And ahaha it sounds like you're the one who's crying bro. Not all of us are rapists (or like women who want to be raped). Maybe discuss that with your therapist instead of PPD.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/21 08:43 AM
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The problem is that the casual sex and plate spinning is a direct result of the debauchery of American women. It all began with the disease that is feminism. Personally, I'm half Italian and half American. The women in my life growing up were amazing. They taught me how to be chivalrous. But, when I went out into the real world, I found that American women hated these things. Romance is clingy, chivalry is sexist. If I didn't have sex with the woman as fast as possible, she would not be interest…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/21 08:41 AM
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I'm engaged. And I would dump her in a second if she had a rape kink. That's abhorrent.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/21 08:32 AM
1

Are you actually European? This is not true at all in Italy.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/21 08:26 AM
1

Dating is only hard because of feminism. For American men, the answer is always to go to a non-western country to find marriage. For American women, the answer is always to stop chasing super good-looking guys and date your looks-match.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/21 08:23 AM
1

Stop chasing the super good-looking guys on the dating sites (these are the guys that are typically married since they attract so many women). I'm sure most average guys on dating sites are not married.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/21 08:20 AM
1

If you are fat, then try dating other fat people since you are equal then. Otherwise, eat less and exercise more to lose weight.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/21 08:17 AM
2

It sounds like you're too focused on looks by your language here. So that's probably your problem. Maybe try not being so shallow.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/21 08:15 AM
1

This is absolutely false. I'm the child of one American-born parent and one Italian-born parent. I have lived in both countries from an early age. Most American guys that I've known are nice people, usually nice to women, but just get crapped on all the time. American women are very demanding and entitled. I have never met so many nasty women before. They are also very fat. It's no wonder that Reddit is full of angry, complaint-filled American men.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/21 08:12 AM
2

I think status is awesome, personally. A man can always change his status. He can not change his looks.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/21 08:05 AM
1

What are you smoking? That sounds amazing. EDIT: Oh, you must be a feminist.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/21 08:00 AM
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