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| 1 | YesAllWomenIt's not a gish gallop if they aren't insignificant. The whole point of a gish gallop is that they're all weak points. It's your call. I provided factual evidence for all of my arguments and you have provided none. | /r/MensRights | 01/08/17 04:54 PM |
| 1 | YesAllWomenTake that statistic and apply the obvious logic that men report domestic abuse less often than women. Many people of both genders don't report domestic violence. I do not believe it's fair to assume that the male lack of reporting violence statistic is great enough to make up the 10% and the statistic of women who don't report violence, but that's just conjecture. I'm sure there are plenty more videos of women attacking men on in the internet, but that is not correlated to abuse in the household… | /r/MensRights | 06/07/17 05:13 PM |
| 1 | YesAllWomenThe one link you provided said that ~40% of domestic violence victims were men, which is less than half, so you literally refuted your own point. I listed multiple broad categories of disadvantages towards females, and you didn't say a thing about those. I provided cited facts and asked for your evidence, yet you gave me nothing that said anything contradictory to my points. You said birth control was less important than viagra, and that women don't need tampons, so you obviously don't understan… | /r/MensRights | 05/07/17 09:01 PM |
| 1 | YesAllWomenI am not responding to this shit again because you are so unbelievably delusional it isn't worth it. I provided factual sources for controversial arguments and you are ignoring even the most basic of facts. You didn't even respond to any cited evidence and just claimed the opposite with zero backing. You aren't worth any of more of my time. I'm sorry you hate yourself so much that you need to pretend you're disadvantaged in life, that's honestly sad. And I am the man pictured in the two filtered… | /r/MensRights | 05/07/17 10:40 AM |
| 1 | YesAllWomenI don't think that's the best way to describe the feminist movement or their purpose. That's not what they do, and the most prominent representatives do not want equality. We completely disagree on that issue, and I don't think any evidence provided will change either of our minds. It's an argument based on when a fetus becomes a human life. Despite what yours or my personal beliefs on it are, it's a very contentious issue with no real solid answer. So reproductive rights only encompass the righ… | /r/MensRights | 03/07/17 06:12 AM |
| 1 | YesAllWomenI think you are confusing the movement of feminism with the organization NOW. The members of NOW may or may not be feminist. That varies by person. | /r/MensRights | 23/06/17 08:21 PM |
| 1 | YesAllWomenNo I am saying that a complex organization that at its root follows a particular movement does not define a movement. The DNC does not define what liberals believe in, they define what democrats believe in. NOW defines what its members believe in, not what feminists believe in. The message of feminism is equality, and that is why not everything NOW does is feminist. I don't like NOW, and I'm not trying to protect them, I'm saying that they are largely feminist and that the criticisms are mainly … | /r/MensRights | 23/06/17 07:53 PM |
| 1 | YesAllWomenNo, what I'm saying is that their organization is composed on many individuals and that some of them are feminists. Some of the actions the organization takes are feminists, and some are for their own agenda. Again I'll refer to politics: you can be a fiscal conservative and a social liberal. NOW has a largely feminist stance on a variety of issues, but does not have a feminist viewpoint on everything. Their main goals focus on feminist issues, so I consider them a feminist group. That doesn't m… | /r/MensRights | 23/06/17 07:19 PM |
| 1 | YesAllWomenI am not saying that everything they do is feminist, and they have far more problems than just custody battles, but the only things you are going to hear about on the news are negatives. Their main focus afaik is reproductive rights. The right to choose, insurance coverage for birth control, and increasing awareness of feminist issues to promote equality are their goals. None of those put down men. | /r/MensRights | 23/06/17 05:14 PM |
| 1 | YesAllWomenI say it's a movement of equality the same way I would say the civil rights movement or gay rights movement are movements of equality. It's just the best way to describe them and their purpose. I do. Feminists ran the Women's March, they helped raise donations for Planned Parenthood, they are running for political office to fix the shit show that is our current racist and sexist administration, and they help other organizations with humanitarian events/goals. People like Emma Watson and Rashida … | /r/MensRights | 23/06/17 05:02 PM |
| 2 | YesAllWomenIf equality existed, sure. There is an overwhelming amount of evidence describing women's inequality in a variety of aspects though. | /r/MensRights | 23/06/17 11:40 AM |
| 1 | YesAllWomenFeminism is a movement of equality, and that concept isn't changing (even though plenty don't agree). That's where I'm coming from, and that's where I believe the majority of feminists are at. There is no organization of feminism, just feminist organizations, and that's the difference. The ideology of political groups changes because the groups define their beliefs. Liberalism and conservatism still follow the same basic principles, and that's how feminism is too. I don't belong to any particula… | /r/MensRights | 23/06/17 06:54 AM |
| 1 | YesAllWomenNo, you can't, but the more people to acknowledge their 'feminism' as something other than feminism, the better. Feminism is about more than just legal proceedings. Acknowledging that there is inequality, and at the very least not abusing that inequality, helps. By roll back, I don't mean policies, but the public perception of the feminist movement certainly is affected. I'm not claiming you or anyone else here is trying to take away women's rights. The problem is association of feminists with m… | /r/MensRights | 23/06/17 06:24 AM |
| 2 | YesAllWomenAnd that's the problem | /r/MensRights | 23/06/17 06:02 AM |
| 1 | YesAllWomenBecause loud people and those with more funding and power to get what they want should not define a group. Trump doesn't define Republicans, and he arguably isn't one when you look at policies. Of course shitty people are going to get power and push their own agenda using popular terms with a large base to draw from, but that doesn't make those policies define the group. By taking away that title, it removes some of their influence, and vice versa. For example, calling Lena Dunham a feminist jus… | /r/MensRights | 23/06/17 06:01 AM |
| -1 | YesAllWomenI'd argue that the Women's Marches show otherwise. While of course there were individuals that represent other views, my experience as a male was entirely positive. That is the feminist movement, not people on twitter shitting on Father's Day. Loud people with extreme viewpoints are going to be public or on the news because that's what draws attention. Small victories and groups that don't have the funding aren't going to be as noticed, and some groups like NOW (I completely misspoke, several of… | /r/MensRights | 23/06/17 05:52 AM |
| 1 | YesAllWomenThe largest are reproductive rights is arguably the largest issue, income inequality (not the 60, 70, or 80% some say, but there is a gap), and societal expectations for 'gender norms.' These are all quite broad and have sub-issues associated with them. | /r/MensRights | 23/06/17 05:31 AM |
| -7 | YesAllWomenWhat I'm saying is that the literal definition of feminism is equality of the sexes. Most groups, especially large ones and those with a powerful agenda, have outspoken members and sub-organizations. Look at the Democratic and Republican parties especially, and consider Antifa and the Tea Party. The fairly quiet majority belonging to the main groups thinks that those sub-groups are batshit crazy, right? They don't consider those people true Democrats or Republicans, because honestly, they're jus… | /r/MensRights | 23/06/17 05:05 AM |
| 1 | YesAllWomenAgreed, but she sure as hell isn't a feminist | /r/MensRights | 23/06/17 04:45 AM |
| -3 | YesAllWomenNo, assholes bring other people down. Women to men, and men to women. That's a part of life. Feminism in no way degrades or fights men's rights. The woman in the post is not a feminist, she's an asshole. | /r/MensRights | 23/06/17 04:31 AM |
| 1 | YesAllWomenThat implies that the feminist movement is not about equality and that these awful people describe the definition of feminism. The literal definition of feminism is "the advocacy of women's rights on the basis of the equality of the sexes." edit: https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/feminism | /r/MensRights | 23/06/17 03:38 AM |
| -1 | YesAllWomenBecause the movement addresses/has addressed women's rights and inequalities. Feminism aims to fix these problems, and while it does not campaign for men directly (though equality benefits everyone), feminism does not try to bring down men. Similarly, the gay rights movement is aiming to address inequalities specific to homosexuals, and is not trying to reduce the rights of heterosexuals. | /r/MensRights | 23/06/17 03:29 AM |
| 3 | YesAllWomenIn many cases, I absolutely agree. It's the same way Trump was elected. Yelling loudly and violently draws attention and money from groups exploiting the cause more easily than rational thought. But calling these people feminists just furthers the divide. | /r/MensRights | 23/06/17 03:05 AM |
| -2 | YesAllWomenWhile I see your point, people referring to these fake-feminists as feminists ends up causing more hatred towards men and diminishes the validity of people actually helping gender inequality problems | /r/MensRights | 23/06/17 03:03 AM |
| – | YesAllWomenThis has literally nothing to do with actual feminism. True feminism is about equality of the sexes, and actually favors men's rights as well. https://www.forbes.com/sites/bonniemarcus/2015/03/31/true-feminism-is-about-equality-for-both-genders/#1f8ceaa1190d | /r/MensRights | 23/06/17 02:22 AM |
| -4 | YesAllWomenDon't call people like this feminists, because they aren't. True feminism is about equality and equity. They are a group of people that are deeply misguided and are making the term 'feminist' sound like something horrible. | /r/MensRights | 23/06/17 02:20 AM |
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