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Red pill men don't want to date anyone 25 or over
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/24 02:19 PM
6

It can't if the other person doesn't have HPV..
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/24 01:55 AM
1

Any other feeling than eagerness to serve in order to be accepted is baggage to them
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/24 08:38 AM
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Such a stupid theory. Also, feminists often have husbands that earn as much as them, help with chores and would divorce if there was cheating and those who want providers often identify as anti-feminists because they don't want be humans.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/24 04:11 AM
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Well, this attraction only exists in minds of men. Women just wish for a basic ability to live with your means and support yourself
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/24 03:22 AM
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Floggings and stonings and pushing women over 35 to wster with millstones around their neck
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/24 06:09 PM
3

Then why couldn't those men try dating one of the 4 women that are left alone? Why all 5 of them have to date this one woman since there is roughly equal number of men and women
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/24 01:41 AM
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Yes, of course
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/24 01:49 AM
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You should date a person who is best fit for you in personality and values. Don't think about the age.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/24 10:39 AM
5

Women between 30 and 40 are not post menopausal and can get pregnant. It can be a very costly error if you assume you can have sex without contraception with women that age.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/24 04:03 AM
3

Well, maybe they didn't lie. You seem to think that people can't have casual sex without lying and that's not true. And women still don't have a hivemind so they can't know about someone's past success with other women.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/24 01:22 AM
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But you claim that this, small minority somehow represents all or most women?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/24 08:41 AM
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I have never heard an actual woman say they want to be lead, I've only heard many men say they think women want that. And I've heard some women say it's good to let simple men think they lead you when they actually point the direction to him. Also, men who have to lead others in business don't care about leading at home, not relaxing change to work.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/24 08:31 AM
3

Then why that is not happening in countries where it is legal?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/24 04:51 AM
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It might make some men think that they don't need to support toxic masculinity and that they can be men without putting women down or accusing men on things they can change (eg don't support rape, discrimination and support women's right to vote, drive or choose their own profession)
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/24 04:10 AM
-1

If you feel like equal rights and equal responsibilities is being despised and treated unfairly then that tell more about you than those wanting equality..
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/24 04:00 AM
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No, the point of red pill is to be abusive unless women are totally submissive
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/24 04:36 PM
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No, you have it backwards. Feminists treat people like humans and you don't like that and anti-feminists treat men as superior and to you that is normal and you like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/24 05:54 AM
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So you don't like feminists because they treat people like humans and like that but you still want to date women who are not feminists and therefore treat men like they are men
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/24 05:34 AM
2

Then why do you think that women should date men who want to abuse and exploit them?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/24 02:31 AM
1

What is wrong with being treated as human instead of being treated as a man?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/24 02:24 AM
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No one would actually choose a bear, that's just a joke. Everyone knows that two people would survive but a bear and lonely person might not survive so well.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/24 02:39 PM
0

That would leave even more women single of they weren't pretty enough or flawless enough not to be yelled at. Most women make a mistake or have a misunderstanding at some point in their life
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/24 01:58 AM
1

You do understand that those old women were young women once and therefore able give their opinion on dating or attractiveness that applies to some young women as well
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/24 03:17 AM
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Also, why would drinking increase number of partners? Who wants to have sex drunk? Drunk people want fast food and sleep.. Not a comment on this post alone, but on topic of drunkenness and promiscuity in general.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/24 07:16 AM
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This most likely cultural thing. Dating multiple people seems to be US specific and in other places dating one person is default.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/24 02:03 AM
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They wouldn't be alone if they lowered their standards.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/24 03:37 PM
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OP has the same misleading thought that women only value themselves based on how strange men value her. Women don't actually care. They value themselves on how they feel about themselves and how their friends and family value them.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/24 03:35 AM
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But he might be happier because he wouldn't treat women as hive-minded enemy and treat them as humans.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/24 01:44 AM
2

There's no need for that for women either so?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/24 02:32 AM
9

So when feminists say to men that they should show women basic decency and not abuse them or sexually assault it is too much to ask?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/24 01:40 PM
1

I don't think anyone opposes sex bots or truly voluntary sex workers (not minors, trafficked, drug addicted). If that was the case why women's associations and feminists support sex workers rights and want more services for them?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/24 03:50 PM
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Are you saying that you wouldn't use prostitutes or you wouldn't leave your wife in case she got old, ugly, fat, sick etc?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/24 11:15 AM
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Assume quite like your taste or what is considered "high-value woman" in social media. All about looks and fake submissiveness and emphasis on provider relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/24 11:13 AM
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Have a family with a man that wants a partner and not an object to control?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/24 11:11 AM
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And I'm European woman and see a lot of European women and only very few would be interested to cater to American taste and prefer European mindset in dating and marriage.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/24 11:10 AM
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Or European men value different things that American men value and thus it's easier to be considered attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/24 10:57 AM
3

But they wouldn't have the stability if there was constant pressure to be something you are not or get cheated or dumped. Single person only has single income, but they only have single person to support so...
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/24 10:56 AM
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I don't really see that, I don't know any European women who are "putting more effort in", everyone is just being themselves and trying to find someone who accepts them as they are.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/24 10:54 AM
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There are many countries in Northern Europe where prostitution is legal.. And have immigrants because it is easy to get visa due to work or family relations.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/24 08:55 AM
2

To less materialistic countries like in Northern Europe for example.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/24 05:27 AM
3

But WHY would women want relationship and commitment from men that use prostitutes?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/24 04:49 AM
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I think we define femininity differently.. It seems that femininity for red-pilled men is for women to see themselves as inferior beings and expect women not to have any opinions of their own. Most European women are not like that. They probably wear nice dresses and skirts out of comfort, cook homecooked meals because they enjoy tasty food and do gardening, handicrafts and exercise to relax but are still feminists and view themselves as equals.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/24 03:55 AM
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Most people are not elite, they are average people who just want to be loved and spend time with person they love and not hoard money and power. And no, old, workaholic guys are not desirable to young, average woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/24 03:36 AM
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Women are usually against prostitution when it's not voluntary and minors are involved and are against for solidarity, not because they are afraid of losing "power". Also, Finland is democratic, unfortunately capitalistic country with universal suffrage where prostitution is legal, only minor's and victims of trafficking are illegal to buy.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/24 03:26 AM
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Wouldn't that just make women look for partners from countries that had more humane and equal mindset on relationships?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/24 03:15 AM
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I assume they were normal and friendly interaction, something OP only deserves for hot, available women.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/24 05:22 AM
11

Why late bloomer men don't date late bloomer women?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/02/24 04:45 PM
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Disagree. Most people are in relationship with a person that makes them happy and not with a person that demands sacrifices
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/24 04:06 PM
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That's the point. People don't have to make that sacrifice, they can quite happily live without that sacrifice.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/24 06:17 AM
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If people have to make sacrifices to work or buy a house etc why would they want make sacrifices to benefit a random person and get nothing out of it?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/24 04:32 AM
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Because if you want dating to work it should work for both, not just for men. You suggest that dating should only benefit men and women should just accept unhappy life and sacrifice themselves for men.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/24 02:27 PM
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Of course they did. Feminists want women to choose themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/24 03:47 AM
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And yet they seem to be happy with normal women in everyday life
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/24 02:27 PM
2

General attitude in culture has effect on those. Rarely women are seen as stupid, idle and ornamental figures in Nordic countries.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/24 10:49 AM
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Reading this sub has made me wonder why aren't there more American women coming to northern Europe to find more down to earth, more understanding and more accepting men.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/24 03:39 AM
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I think the wall is just an excuse and justification for men who enjoy abusing women. They can make abuse socially acceptable by using this theory.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/24 04:43 PM
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Child support does not go to the mother, it for the child and child deserves support from both. Also, if men are single dads they also get child support from the mother.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/24 05:04 AM
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Because basically anything that gives women more energy to focus on other things that hating themselves is bad for red pill.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/24 05:46 PM
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It's not Disney, it's life in general. Women have always wanted to be considered as humans and not just side characters in their husbands life. Now women have the chance to make decisions own their own.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/24 06:40 AM
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But if wife works same hours they are still excpected to do all chores and are very lucky if they get any help from their husband. Only reason men give for this is that since they are male they need more rest and they need to feel like they are in charge.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/24 03:40 AM
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Being married doesn't give you social interaction or relationship. You only get duty to clean, cook and do laundry but it might be months between any other interaction with spouse.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/23 04:36 PM
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Social pressure still, older generations not divorcing and difference between rural and urban. Also, the whole family structure and dynamic is different.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/23 03:21 AM
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I said BEFORE that was a big reason for low divorce rates in Albania. Poverty was very real reason before and still is in rural areas and with less educated people. I have also seen very unhappy marriages because social pressure kept people together even if they either had not talked to each other in years or there was violence, addictions or infidelity that lasted years. Now young people don't usually enter in arranged marriages but marry people they meet at school or university. I know maybe c…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/23 03:15 AM
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Nowadays there really aren't arranged marriages in Albania and even before women were more involved in it than men. Often they just looked for kind MIL and decent family. And one reason for not divorcing was poverty and enduring unhappy marriage because people had no choice.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/23 03:07 AM
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If you know some other answer than not wanting to it would be easy to just say it? Again, is there ANY OTHER reason for a man not to date woman that is equally average other than preferring someone they like more?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/23 04:54 AM
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So WHAT is stopping an average male for dating an average woman of same age, same BMI, same proportionate height and similar lifestyle?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/23 06:11 AM
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So the point is which we agree on that men COULD find someone but do not want women they can get and your solution is that someone should provide different women and my solution is either accepting singleness or dating women that are interested.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/23 04:59 AM
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If they don't care about how much they make then leave that out of equation. Still, men could get someone similar to them but don't want to.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/23 04:23 AM
-1

You could, but just not the woman you want. You could get someone similar to you, but you don't want to.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/23 04:22 AM
1

If average height man would date average height woman and let's less than average height man would date a woman equally less average. There are plenty of women that are 150cm tall and very few men. And almost everyone I know has a partner that makes about the same as them..
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/23 03:45 AM
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Why can't you answer then? Because the answer would be that men think they deserve something more, not someone their age, their bodytype who make as much money as them.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/23 04:26 AM
-1

Why dating someone similar isn't an option? Just a regular woman and not "high-value" women that need entertainment and upkeep.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/23 02:44 AM
1

He says that they wouldn't be abused if they were good people and therefore they should take the responsibility to accomodate the abuser more and more until there wasn't a need for abuse.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/23 04:03 AM
1

Why would they have to be accountable in those situations? If the roles were reversed people would call the abusive woman accountable and accept if the relationship ended.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/23 04:01 AM
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Why would women be less punctual? You can't be late from work, meetings, doctors appointments, planes, train or buses regardless of gender.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/23 04:49 AM
0

Being religious maybe?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/23 01:21 PM
4

Only problem seems to be that not all women want to have kids or can't have them and some women also want that spouse is not an addict or violent or otherwise abusive.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/23 04:23 AM
1

The point I am making is that the goal must be for women to be the majority of those who commit suicide and why can't it be bringing down the total number?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/23 11:42 AM
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Yes, that was the sarcasm part in attempt to show how bad the idea of improving things by increasing female suicides is.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/23 07:09 AM
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Usually, almost always, promoted solution for discrepancy in suicide or mental health issues between genders is to deny mental healthcare for women and give women more successful opportunities for suicide. If someone suggests more care for all they are called rabid misandrists.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/23 04:54 AM
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But you agree with me then? I pointed with sarcasm out that OP's idea of increasing female suicide is stupid
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/23 04:19 AM
0

No I'm not. I pointed out how stupid your idea was.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/23 04:17 AM
1

I disagree. To me it makes no sense to increase female suicide in order to make males happy but it would be effective. Nothing makes a man happier than seeing their mom and sister die.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/23 07:58 PM
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No, it's just cruel to improve statistics on male well being by increasing female suicide.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/23 07:18 PM
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I thought it just proves that stupid people gravitate towards each other regardless of gender..
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/23 10:13 AM
1

Yes, much more fragile. Women get over violence, homelessness, being a refugee, being raped, being unemployed and all this even when they are single and try to manage on their own.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/23 03:03 AM
5

I don't think orgasm isn't the only measurement for good sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/23 04:29 AM
4

Wouldn't dating be the getting to know each so you know if you even want to have sex with that person?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/23 04:25 AM
1

Because they don't suffer. Men enjoy seeing women suffer or get hurt.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/23 03:02 AM
1

I'm very ugly and always have been so it's always 1. Friendly conversation
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/23 04:34 AM
10

Pain and sleeping badly because of the pain and having go change pads/tampons several times a night so second and third day of the period you are a little slow, tired and irritated.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/23 10:51 AM
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Pick me is not about treating men like humans, that would be bluepill. Pick me would be being a doormat, hating other women, claiming that they are "not like others".
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/23 08:42 AM
1

Yes, why not. It would be irrelevant in every day life, but could help if something happened (slip on ice when on a walk in the forest, car trouble at secluded area, train malfunction during commute..) My location info would be quite boring for anyone to follow anyway..
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/23 07:56 AM
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No. Other men are humans to them but unattractive women are waste or at least outside work or business.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/23 04:14 AM
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Choose someone ugly or "old".. Men say they can't have no one when they mean can't have exceptionally beautiful and some years younger than themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/23 04:11 AM
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So you are saying that we should teach women how to succesfully kill themselves? Couldn't agree more. Lets's werd out 30% of women or at least send them somewhere in feministic countries.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/23 08:55 PM
1

Have you tried talking to women your own age? No.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/23 08:20 PM
1

They want women over 20 to leave them alone I guess.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/23 04:49 PM
1

Since when has it been a personality disorder if someone thinks all people should be equal and not labeled?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/22 07:37 AM
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You are just an evil person that loves to hate all women and all "white " people. Hoping that someone gets a taste of their own medicine is not crazy.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/22 06:45 PM
1

I really truly just hope that bad things will happen to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/22 06:36 PM
1

"White" are not ethnic group or would you claim that Swedes, Bulgarians or French are all the same?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/22 05:55 PM
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Ethnic is being a person with ethnicity or person with ethnic origin. Where in the world there could be a person that didn't have any ethnic origin?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/22 03:01 PM
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There's no one in the world who is not ethnic.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/22 10:23 AM
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No one is interested and if they are they want money, permanent visa or both.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/22 07:33 PM
-1

All women have some ethnicity...
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/22 07:13 PM
1

I guess they leave their wives because they need a functioning household appliance and sex provider.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/22 08:50 PM
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I guess they are homoromantic but heterosexual and have loving feelings towards other males only.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/22 05:49 PM
2

I don't have a dating range anymore, but if I were to look at men my age I'd say that men with good character, 90 % for a relationship. Men with poor character, none.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/22 03:58 PM
11

Have you ever wondered what would happen if everyone would just treat each other as humans?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/22 02:53 PM
0

It would infringe women's rights if the MGTOW person is a firefighter, doctor, police, nurse, judge etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/22 11:23 PM
1

That would be a whole of work and useless waste of time just to impress someone else, no one in their right mind would do that, men or woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/22 06:35 PM
1

It is not mandatory for women either to marry...
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/22 01:26 PM
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You do know it is not mandatory to get married..
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/22 09:37 AM
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What would be the point of marrying someone you don't desire? At least in countries where women work as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/22 09:36 AM
3

Why would women have give certain type of sex to boyfriends or husbands and not just enjoy sex as they themselves desire?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/22 05:50 AM
1

The bottom 20 % of women obviously.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/22 03:53 AM
2

1.Never, 2.No, 3.No, 4. I am not sure how unattractive I am so can't really tell.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/21 06:19 PM
1

I'm middle aged, never been pretty and never had "fun" if that means casual sex. Why can't things work in companionship? Both usually work 40 hrs a week and do stuff together, like shovelling snow or doing gardening. If other person puts laundry in the washing machines, other person can hang it out to dry. Or if other cooks the other person can put dishes in the dishwasher.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/21 05:48 AM
2

Why do women have to bring cooking, cleaning or other chores "to table" when men bring just their companionship and sex?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/21 06:38 AM
2

That would be horrible in cases where there is domestic violence involved. I know people always say domestic violence is always women fault they either cause it or they are the ones being violent. Sometimes women just can't help themselves not getting beaten, but they can be good mothers.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/21 04:30 PM
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For 99% of women that are considered below average, yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/21 02:54 AM
3

Literally no one cares about this outside fictional romcoms.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/21 09:42 PM
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Husband material means you're a man that someone would like to have sex with every day for the rest of their life, but also someone you like to come home to after a hard day at work and someone you want go hiking with and someone you want as company for house renovations.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/21 03:21 AM
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Of course people have different beliefs, but I don't fit into their beliefs. I'm feministi, I believe in idea of lagom and I think everyone has right to live their lives as they want as long as they don't hurt others. I also believe that all children should have equal chances in life regardless of their parents wealth and social status. I also believe in workers unions and co-ops. There is nothing I could agree on with right leaning people.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/21 09:48 AM
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I'd say I would only date a someone leftist and liberal because values would be similar, because my family and friends are leftist and liberal and because I would find it difficult to trust someone right wing and conservative. I wish that man I'm with would also values liberty, solidarity and fraternity rather than greed, religion and selfishness.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/21 05:03 AM
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So actually 64,9 % are feminists. Rest must be pickmeishas.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/21 04:48 AM
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People tend to smile and talk to friends, family and collegues and not to strangers. We also enjoy being silent together, it's not uncomfortable to us. We are still apparently happiest people in the world.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/21 12:20 PM
1

Rather broad topic.. In what sense?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/21 04:04 PM
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In Finland
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/21 05:19 PM
1

I just now noticed this reply.. Do you mean that has anyone ever told me to smile? No, some have told me not smile like an idiot, but people rarely smile here in public and people don't speak to strangers.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/21 03:27 PM
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People treat me like I treat them, or not as nicely. People listen to me only when I make sense or my ideas can make more money for them (at work). I rarely get invited and if I do get invited it's work related. People make fun of my looks regularly.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/21 05:48 PM
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I could never imagine anyone having sexual thoughts about me. And I analyze people's motives and behaviour in detail even in my free time, not just at work.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/21 05:27 PM
2

I must be very much below average then.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/21 05:22 PM
2

I guess I'm ugly then since I'm normal/healthy bmi. Maybe everyone sees themselves as prettier than they really are.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/21 04:20 PM
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You could make someone desire you or pay attention to you more because they see you as a sexually desirable person. That doesn't happen to all women.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/21 04:01 PM
1

Average women have no sexual power. I base this on the idea that I am some what average and have absolutely zero sexual power and have never had any. I hold far more power through my work and political activity.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/21 03:53 PM
-1

If only beautiful women hold power then obviously average women don't.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/21 03:50 PM
-5

Average is not beautiful.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/21 03:44 PM
-11

Average woman doesn't have sexual or social power either.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/21 03:38 PM
2

I think it like that in most European countries.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/21 05:44 PM
1

I can't think of a type, but I can describe a man that I know and would love to have a relationship with. He is kind, friendly, very social and outgoing, smart and sensitive. He needs his space and his own time for his hobbies, dogs and for his family. He is a single dad of two. He likes his job, he is good at his job and he is liked by his collagues. About 5'10'', a bit overweight with a bit of stomach, in his forties, grey hair that' s thinning a little, greenish blue eyes and beard.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/21 06:06 PM
1

Ok, why do you think I am not a real woman? Honest question.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/21 07:52 AM
1

I just feel that based on my own experience in life I can't imagine anyone reacting in any other way than saying ok and going on with their life. Men would be embarrased to show anger or despair, but it could have a lot to do with culture and our healthcare with free psychiatric help and psychotherapy
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/21 07:40 AM
1

It is true that men (people in general) are calmer here and it would be embarrasment to lose one's temper. Of course there are occasions where people don't take rejection well, but I have not experienced any. Clearly, according to many women, it means that I am hideously ugly.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/21 03:15 AM
2

Nice strawman there. It isn't anyone's fault and cultures may vary in this case.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/21 09:35 AM
2

I know you are being sarcastic, but no. Most men are smart, kind and reasonable so they take honesty well. Also, as I feminist I think it is unfair to complain about patriarchy and then use it for your own good ie. claiming to be some other man's possession to avoid possible confrontation. If you say are strong, then be strong.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/21 08:36 AM
2

Maybe not, or then they understand why I say no because I usually say it very directly.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/21 07:51 AM
6

No, never.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/21 07:24 AM
2

Eventually they will meet then going their way and doing what makes them happy.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/21 06:24 AM
1

I very, very rarely get crushes or feel attracted to anyone. I only ever think of sex when I do have a crush through, so maybe it wouldn't work for me.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/21 05:55 AM
1

I actually wanted to use SSRI medications for that purpose (I want to lose romantic and sexual feelings) but I was not prescribed them because they are psychiatric medications and specialists evaluation found no fault or illness.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/21 05:41 AM
1

Would you say same to women about men?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/21 05:24 AM
29

Yes, if it would mean that I would stop loving as well. I hate having feelings.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/21 06:21 PM
1

There isn't a connection between character and body shape so I was more interested in cases where men choose between nice women who happen to look different.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/21 03:21 AM
2

I've seen many men with women who have flat and straight bodies, either big or small bodies. For some reason some men I know always choose women with round belly and small breasts and flat ass and they like that body type.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/21 10:33 AM
2

I know that, I'm curious as why many men prefer women with small ass, narrow hips, wide waist and round belly because that seems like a very masculine bodytype. Not the weight, but the shape of body.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/21 10:13 AM
4

Why would anyone be against self-improvement? I mean it's nice that one can love themselves as they are, but why would someone stop trying to grow and get out of your comfort zone?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/21 04:13 PM
1

Not an exception rather an anecdote on fairly normal behaviour. I think it is about difference in point of view. Men want to solve issues and women listen and express their feelings verbally or by hugging. Men might not feel that as strong expression of empathy.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/21 03:46 PM
1

I somehow don't understand your comment, could you please explain. I read a few times, but maybe I'm too tired for it to make sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/21 03:29 PM
1

I'm straight and if I was lucky enough to be his partner I would feel the same.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/21 03:27 PM
0

Depends. My friend told me about his marriage, wife's cheating, unfair division of assets (to avoid court), child support payments before he got custody, etc. I felt so bad for him, wanted to console him, refer him to the best lawyer possible and I also really crushed on him for being both vulnerable, emotional and strong at the same time. Really, can't act on it since it is not mutual, but I can show my empathy by listening and being there in case he needs a hand in new situation at life.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/21 02:03 PM
1

Good waist to hip ratio, healthy weight, pretty smile, pretty eyes and nice facial bone structure. Smart enough to have a decent paying job and wise enough to keep work family life balanced. Empatethic towards her husband, resilient enough to keep going through hard times, loyal and faitful. Someone who respects good character more than money.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/21 01:47 PM
1

No, I do not date ever again and he was and is opposite of Red pill. Just wanted to understand why Red pill thinks that everyone acts like them, to see how they see the world.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/20 06:31 AM
1

If I was fifteen or even twentyfive or if this was my first or even third break-up I could understand that perspective. Also, therapists are free (single payer system) so sometimes people just ask for point of view in general.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/20 03:33 AM
1

I'm not ruined and I'm not every woman. Women are not a hivemind. Just me personally can't get over this even if there are many who would love me.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/20 07:42 PM
1

I really don't think I ever want to have any kind of relationship, I don't think I could ever touch anyone else.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/20 07:20 PM
1

Yes and no and yes. There was something between when we were teens, then years and years later we met again.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/20 07:18 PM
1

That was my point, I genuinely do love him and always will, but it seems that many redpill men don't believe in love.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/20 07:11 PM
1

I don't think you understood my question. If all women were only after looks or money why I feel like he could never be replaced. People are interested in me, but I can not feel anything anymore.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/20 07:09 PM
1

Sex is to me personally very emotional and sort of spiritual thing. At that moment I have known him long enough to know I love him and at that moment he is my universe, a lifeforce that shares his masculine energy with me and I become obsessed to give him pleasure just as he wants to give it to me. Entanglenment of souls and bodies. He is the most beautiful thing in the world at that moment, regardless of his height, weight or features.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/20 07:02 PM
2

For me it has to be someone close to me and loved by me and person's beauty depends on their inner beauty.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/20 08:56 AM
1

Also INFP and just to make matter worse also a demisexual.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/20 08:31 AM
0

I think I am. Looks are not important, just personality and I need to have feelings and connection before finding anyone attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/20 06:01 AM
18

I can't say for all women, but in my own experience I have very high sex drive, but I only crave one person. Desiring that person more than just sex. I guess many men want just sex instead of sex with someone special.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/20 03:01 AM
1

I personally have never, ever in my life gotten sexually harassed or gotten commenter sexually or even flirted with. I am completely non-sexual person for men.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/20 12:31 AM
2

Cannot confirm. I am shy, analytical and sensitive woman and I like men who are similar.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/20 05:49 AM
2

So to summarize, men don't find shy or introverted women attractive so they "need" to pretend they are annoying and loud to attract annoying, loud and dumb women.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/20 03:13 AM
22

Not sure about the situation in USA, but most children born out of wedlock are being born to nuclear families with parents cohabiting and being in monogamous, serious relationship. Sometimes people just get married later or don't think it is important when paternity is confirmed regardless.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/20 03:54 AM
2

I really find it hard to believe that someone would date someone older just for resources. If having a car is that important then get one. I'm really old and my friends relied for themselves for resources and looked for other qualities in men when we were young.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/20 03:29 PM
1

When does that happen? I'm too old to have sex and woman but I would still like to have sex if it was possible.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/20 02:59 AM
1

I can relate completely and I am a woman. Feelings must come first and man has to be able show emotions and weakness to be real and desirable.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/20 05:47 PM
1

We have no issues with military. Scandinavia doesn't need USA in that.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/20 08:10 AM
2

His choice. He wanted pretty and fun woman who doesn't stress or overthink and no he has one. Edit: I feel like it is important to have work identity and to be able to do something your good at and use your intelligence. Not working would feel empty.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/20 03:40 AM
1

If they can cut their spending then there's no problem, other wise I can't see how that works.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/20 03:36 AM
1

Maybe that is possible in some countries, but if they still get paid the same it's not an issue or they can cut expenses or something. I am just saying that it is rarely an option to cut hours. At work no one cares, you just need to reach and exceed your targets regardless of gender.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/20 03:28 AM
5

How can one decide to work less hours? Usually average job is office hours (plus check emails later or finish projects at home) or you can work from home partially but you still need to finish your projects and have skype/teams/zoom meetings at home. Employer wants the job done regardless of gender.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/20 02:42 AM
4

Scandinavia collapsed? We have always been less religious and uptight than USA and IMO we're doing better than USA
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/20 02:22 AM
2

Yes, that is the definition of similar so I don't know why that would be the problem. Same bmi, same relative height and same amount of quirks and flaws.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/20 03:55 PM
2

Why can't looksmatch be someone similar?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/20 03:34 PM
6

And how does one know who is their objective looksmatch? I'm genuinely asking because people see themselves differently.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/20 03:17 PM
2

I don't slut shame and neither do my friends. We were just talking about this with group of friends (age 21-40) and some of us are what you might call demisexual and some are able get attracted fast. No shaming there, just happy for each other that we can be ourselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/20 03:04 AM
2

Why stay together with someone who isn't best if you value good sex. Again, people's behaviour seems illogical.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/20 02:51 AM
1

It seems illogical to think that a person who has had enough experience has chosen to stay with a person who they have best sex with would then cheat that person. I'm not saying that it wouldn't happen, it just seems like a really weird thing to do.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/20 02:46 AM
0

I'm completely neutral in dating since I am labeled gender less, but it would still be interesting to know the real cause. My hypothesis would be that age or cultural factors would have more impact on reported cases of infidelity and on reported number of sexual partners.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/20 02:38 AM
0

Correlation is not causation and without other information causation can't be determined.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/20 02:09 AM
2

They spend for the entire family, clothes, textiles, groceries etc. Status symbols are bought by men.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/20 03:22 PM
2

Women are not interested in showing wealth. It's not women who want bigger house, more expensive cars, boats, motorbikes or Swiss watches.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/20 05:24 AM
1

I was just saying what I think when I think if I am worthy of love and life. What I should achieve to be considered equal even if I am different.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/20 05:26 PM
12

If you start a relationship then yes, you are a shitty person but if you stay single you are a decent person.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/20 03:52 PM
1

People shouldn't need to donate to charity, basic safety net should be provided by state and funded by taxes. Who would lose if there was a tax on sugar, transfats and high fructose corn syrup?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/20 03:20 PM
7

Well life? How can one dispute a totally ridiculous claim that has no base in reality? If you talk about sexual desire then what do you think women crave when they want that certain man?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/20 03:16 PM
11

Yes, you are wrong. And about attention, how could you have relationship without mutual attention to each other?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/20 02:57 PM
-1

Majority of women at medical faculties are women where I live. And economics.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/20 01:52 PM
4

And then they think it's bad advise when they are told to just be themselves. Women (and people in general) like someone who is unique, passionate about something express genuine feelings and thoughts. Also, when you are real and not trying too hard you are automatically confident but not cocky.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/20 12:16 PM
3

You do realize there are plenty of other occupations women have?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/20 11:35 AM
4

I don't think I have ever seen a greeter and cashiers are needed to assist the elderly, but you do understand that very small portion of women work as a cashiers. My friends work in finance sector, engineers, doctors, nurses, teachers, flight control operators, logistics, insurance handlers, lawyers and as mechanics. More and more jobs demand less physical power because that is straining for men as well and physical stress is also bad for work satisfaction. Firefighter is one of those jobs that …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/20 04:30 AM
5

Could you give me example? How do I differ from a man when I try to be observant or self critical? I would imagine that men can focus better on their positive qualities and not be too harsh on themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/20 04:01 AM
1

I would imagine that most women think rather what is their reason to exist, how to justify their own existance and in which way to make world a better place.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/20 03:49 AM
4

There are women working in most occupations nowadays and society needs resources from both sexes.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/20 03:40 AM
13

To me as an European USA just seems psychopatic as a country. People just hoard money instead of building a society that takes care of everyone. It seems that American people are happy to have useless status symbols and turn a blind eye to those fellow human that are struggling. I have couple of friends that are young, beautiful women who have lived in USA for a while and thought that American men try to put on a show for them so that they are entertaining but there's no real connection.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/20 03:26 AM
3

Ok, how do you define high standards? I've always been rejected when I have asked someone on a date.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/20 02:25 PM
0

I think women want one man more and men change their object of lust, but desire one woman less.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/20 05:33 AM
1

Luckily I've never been cheated and I'm sort of woman. I have friends that have been cheated often, some never and some once.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/20 04:00 PM
1

Analytical, introverts or ambiverts, not afraid to show their emotions, having interests in life, willing to live in rural area, calm, not materialistic.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/20 02:46 PM
2

I really don't have that much assets. A place to live in. I don't care if man has assets or good income, just be employed or actively looking for employment or study. Don't whine or be lazy. Looks are not that important although I sligthly prefer robustly build but not obese men. Height is irrelevant because I'm short. I think dating and relationships in Scandinavia are different because we are more equal and most men are tall and masculine but usually share values with women.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/20 03:19 AM
3

I wouldn't call USA equal. USA is a country with masculine values and large power distances.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/20 02:49 AM
2

Not share their wealth more than is needed to live decently, but to share their time and emotions. Luckily it seems that this is somewhat cultural. Relationships between men and women seem more complicated in countries with more masculine values and bigger power distances (referring to Hofstede here).
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/20 02:33 AM
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But if that's what women want then why would they need a man for it? I had exactly two guests at wedding lunch and I have my own house where husband can live as well and I'm not even an oddity. I think men want to think like that's all women want because many men don' t want to be human in a relationship, they don't want share life.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/20 01:21 AM
0

So any type of relationship with a woman over 22 has no love in it?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/20 06:36 PM
5

Answer is the same. Different Jobs have different requirements and different women are attracted to different things. You also need to understand that arguing with women about things they are attracted to doesn't make them attracted to you, they just try to find a man who understand what she likes.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/20 02:40 AM
12

When baby boy is being born everyone celebrates and congratulates, but when baby girl is being born people are upset with the mother and feel bad for the father.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/20 04:49 AM
1

Maybe 1 or 2 out of 20. It could be higher in societies that overmedicate (USA). I would imagine that anxiety is linked to stressful events at life and it's tackled best by solving the issue that causes anxiety. Medicating is equal to burying your head in the sand.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/20 03:13 AM
-1

Astrologi and make up are boring to anyone, rgardless of sex. I have literally never heard grown women to talk about make up or shopping.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/20 02:33 AM
1

Total bullshit. I work full time and pay equal share on everything and I do all chores. My husband still gets upset over smallest mistake. Men treat unattractive women like slaves and only cater to beautiful women.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/20 08:17 AM
9

I've always thought that I'm average. Normal bmi, hourglass shape, long hair etc and I have never been approached or asked out. Either that is reality or I am hideous.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/20 02:49 AM
0

But why would not good looking be willing to share?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/20 02:18 AM
-1

If women should accept sex from men they dislike then why young don't have sex with women they don't like?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/20 02:37 AM
1

I understand growing mentally and intellectually but what happen with spiritual growth? I just sounds like believing more and more in your chosen superstitious believes.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/20 03:48 AM
2

Exactly what I can't understand either. How can you know by looking if you desire them or not?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/20 06:15 PM
3

But why men complain then? Why can't get happily married to quiet and introverted women?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/20 06:07 PM
3

No it doesn't. Says there is a group of people in both sexes that has had large amount of partners, others are average or below average in terms of numbers of sexual partners.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/20 04:41 PM
1

Do you have data from Tilastokeskus about men? This grapf doesn't say anything about men.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/20 04:19 PM
3

But then you are limiting yourself and sort of guiding your desires and fantasies outside your relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/20 09:12 AM
2

I'm woman and I can't understand how one could have wilder sex outside a committed, loving relationship than in one. Seems illogical.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/20 09:07 AM
1

That is not Nordic model. In Finland both selling and buying is legal, but buing sex from minors or those that have been trafficked or forced is illegal. Obviously those are the prostitutes men like to buy sex from, but that is meant to protect the vulnerable groups.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/20 03:46 PM
2

Still can't get what you mean.. How are jokes different in that age than now? Maybe less offensive or sexual when you are younger, but still can't follow your train of thought.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/20 03:33 AM
5

Out of curiosity, what are the boring old people things that they do/speak that make older crowds difficult to be around? Just asking because my closest work collegues are 23 and 64 and we get along, share similar interests and life style. As for the age gaps in general, I'd say 10 years in either direction is ok and larger gaps depend so much on personality.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/20 02:32 AM
1

Absolutely yes. That would make my life so much easier.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/20 04:33 PM
2

I think people age like wine, some are ready and easy to enjoy young but lose their freshness young and become flat and uninteresting. Some can be too harsh or undeveloped at early years, but later come mellow, more complex and have depth and nuances.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/20 02:49 AM
1

That's East Europe, mentality there is completely different than in Nordic countries. Has a lot to do with cultural values (check Hofstede)
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/20 02:47 PM
2

Ok, you are an asshole and twisting my words on purpose.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/20 06:21 AM
5

Are you stupid or mean? Did you misunderstood or just maliciously twist my words?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/20 06:04 AM
8

That would very stupid strategy. Why would anyone want commitment from a man who only commits because he can't find sex else where? Good riddance if they leave because sex is more easily available with someone else.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/20 05:12 AM
0

I think men think that way because most men can't love women, they can only enjoy owning an unused woman and showing off or they utilize an older model for chores and creating offspring. Maybe some men can love women who are smart and beautiful. Men can't understand that women actually love them and like them.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/20 06:28 AM
-1

Women are not a hivemind so I guess it depends who you ask.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/20 05:52 PM
-1

If I would have to choose between skinny and chubby I would choose chubby man. Not American style obese blob, but a little chubby, with normal muscles.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/20 11:30 AM
1

Plays no role to me, it's other things that can make you interesting or not.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/20 07:05 PM
1

Height doesn't really matter for short women like me. My ex was 164 and my current husband is 173 and they are both noticeably taller than me so I never paid attention to height .
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/20 05:58 PM
6

That was my point, I am ugly from male point of view, but some still find nice and interesting enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/20 05:59 PM
5

I can offer you an opposite point of view. I have been approached often in purely platonic manner and I have many casual, platonic male friends but on the other hand, I have never been approached sexually. Romantically or practically maybe.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/20 05:14 PM
1

Cities around the world are different.. Try travelling to experience that.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/20 04:57 PM
1

What the hell is wrong with you
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/20 04:54 PM
2

In some cities it is faster and more convenient due to trams/ subway/ bus lanes. Especially older cities.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/20 04:24 PM
2

You forget that time is money...
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/20 04:21 PM
4

I thought I was one while I was making the comment..
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/20 03:57 PM
21

My point was that being on the bus/tram/subway is not indication of wealth or status.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/20 12:23 PM
151

Why do some people think that public transport is for poor people only? In some areas it's faster and less stressful than driving.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/20 12:01 PM
6

So you haven't actually met women or talked to them? I have never known anyone who wants to be a housewife and wedding day is just one day and stress free if you elope.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/20 07:27 AM
2

Everyone knows basic cooking due mandatory cooking and home economics classes in middle school. And again, if that is not the case then problem is culture and country, not gender issue.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/20 06:29 AM
6

No, you are delibaretely missing my point. My point was that men and women work both usually same amount per week, about 40 hours and I made that point because many American men complain that women are lazy and don't do anything and if that is the case in USA it is a cultural problem and not gender issue. And I also wanted to make a point that women also do chores and it does take time.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/20 05:44 AM
4

Because men I know have wives, daughters, mothers or sisters. I don't know any lonely men.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/20 05:38 AM
2

I just checked from Tilastokeskus and In 2018, on average, women worked 38,5 and men worked 40,1 hours a week. If situation is different In some other country then IT IS cultural and not gender issue. Also, it seems that overall there are more work fatalities on USA than in Scandinavian countries.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/20 05:30 AM
5

You could at least try to be impartial. I made a point to previous commenter who seemed to think that only men work. And if chores are that easy and not time consuming then maybe men could try to do them as well? Not equally, but at least occasionally. I have never seen a man cook, use washer or dishwasher or vacuum cleaner.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/20 05:25 AM
9

Working to death isn't gender issue, it's cultural. Almost everyone I know works 40 hours a week, men and women. Women just have chores on top of that.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/20 04:16 AM
19

Most women then? Sex is just a small part In life because people work, study, exercise, cook , clean, meet friends and family, have hobbies. Many also help looking after elderly relatives if they don't have children of their own.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/20 04:13 AM
1

There are more white men in western countries than asian men so it's just statistically easier To find a white male.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/20 08:50 AM
1

I meant men that I know so well that I can observe this mentality. How likely it would be that I as a very ugly woman would have only Chad friends and Chad husband?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/20 03:50 AM
2

So given the chance you would rather have obese 20 year old than slim, hourglass figure 35 year old.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/20 09:54 AM
22

You haven't met a lot of people then. Men usually think they are best and everyone loves them and women are insecure ones.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/20 09:41 AM
1

Size 6 is still curvy if you're shaped like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/20 05:26 AM
2

So just throw those women away as useless..
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/20 02:55 PM
0

Then are those women useless or what is the reason? Ugliness?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/20 02:50 PM
7

Why can't they date inexperienced girls/women they're own age?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/20 02:48 PM
1

What defines who is "white" and who is "ethnic"? I thought Europeans are white but we also have national ethnicities.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/20 06:20 AM
3

Women are not attracted to criminals, that is such an absurd thing to claim.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/20 11:55 AM
3

No, women really, really don't like them. Danger is revolting.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/20 11:43 AM
4

They are not. You probably haven't met any of those but I have met them through work and they are not attractive or exciting, they are usually lonely, desperate and lack basic social skills.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/20 07:40 AM
5

No it's not, it is a trait that makes anyone easily approachable. Also, how does treating someone like they are a human being make you necessarily agreeable? You know you are allowed to disagree with others and still treat them with respect?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/20 03:03 PM
9

The point is to treat women like humans that have feelings, aspirations and intelligence.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/20 09:57 AM
2

Maybe they start genuinely liking her and then feel sad when she commits suicide due to depression.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/20 06:00 AM
2

I would imagine that very few would. You can live comfortably (at least in Europe) with that salary and you only need to work and not become someone's slave.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/20 06:22 AM
0

Single Moms Work Why would they be only women excluded from workforce?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/20 06:08 AM
2

Legally that is the case, at least in Finland. Here it is also calculated so that both parents need to provide equally, for example, you can't get high child support if you don't actively provide as well, or try to provide.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/20 08:29 AM
8

It doesn't work that way because the mother can't deny support and custody on behalf of the child. Child support is not paid to the mother, it is paid to the child. Also, people change their minds once the baby is born and want to be part of childs life.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/20 03:36 AM
0

The red pill thinks that because even best women are always below the average man therefore they are the prize for those subhuman creatures.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/20 03:31 AM
4

Las Vegas sounds like a place where simple and easily impressed people would go to...
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/20 04:20 AM
1

Love
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/20 03:56 PM
18

Difference between you and those who favour the modern way is that unlike you, others see also women as humans with their own aspirations and need for mutual emotional support and safety. It is hard for some women to keep avoiding domestic violence and therefore stay single or want to have a less demanding husband.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/20 04:14 AM
2

That is not very logical response. If they don't like that person and want to engage in a fight with her then why would they first pretend to like her and to get in contact? I guess men like you only seek someone to abuse, otherwise you would approach women you genuinely like.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/20 04:44 AM
1

How is that relevant? I said that women also feel bad, but that doesn't give them the right to behave badly. I didn't say women would never behave badly. Earlier commenter said that because men feel hurt they have the right to behave badly instead of trying just feel sad and rejected.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/20 04:20 AM
1

You decided to miss my point. OP or anyone didn't say ALL men do that, just talk about why they do that and no one has answered that. If they are hurt how does hurting someone else would make them feel good? Also, they make themselves look like idiots if they first approach and then tell her that she is ugly and stupid anyway. If they think that, why approach?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/20 04:15 AM
1

Why it's not hurtful to women to get rejected but it hurts men somehow more? I am woman that has been rejected many times and I have never gotten angry, just ashamed.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/20 12:38 AM
1

Most men also consider normal weight women fat. To men fat is everything above european size 34.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/20 04:20 PM
12

And all the shock, horror and hate if you suggest having sex with ugly or average women.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/20 06:01 PM
1

These comments make me depressed and suicidal. I am hideous, stupid, useless and most likely never been loved and that is me overinflating myself. The truth about me is so bad that suicide would be the only polite thing to do.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/20 06:02 PM
2

I don't think anyone would enter a relationship JUST because other person is safe and able to chip in financially. Man has to be sexy and also mentally and financially stable. Not wealthy but being able to provide for themselves. What I can't understand is the idea that only women somehow benefit being a part of double income household.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/20 05:11 AM
0

This is exactly the reason women hate redpill men. They tell us that we are not human, our emotions, aspirations, loayalty and knowledge doesn't exist. That we are not valuable humans, but onedimensional, worthless animals.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/20 06:13 PM
1

There are many countries where prostitution is legal. Men still complain.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/19 05:03 PM
3

See the beauty in average women and have sex with them.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/19 02:35 AM
1

F38 Never. I have never been approached by anyone in that sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/19 06:34 PM
7

Why would women of your age be ready for nursing home? They're not even retired yet.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/19 04:17 AM
1

Usually redpillers consider real women to be a hivemind, incapable of having thoughts or preferences of their own.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/19 09:05 AM
1

Well, again I am confirmed not being a real woman. You should really come up with a label for people like me, I can't be the only one.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/19 08:23 AM
3

Either I'm not a real woman or you have some other reason to make that claim? Being attracted makes sex better but good looks don't equal attraction.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/19 06:07 AM
1

Men also seem to think that looking good makes sex more enjoyable.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/19 04:09 AM
1

But all of them hate and despise women. If I was a real woman, I would never be with a red pilled man.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/19 03:52 AM
1

Doesn't matter what they thought before. It is just really childish way to think in black and white matter that all women are pure evil but dumb and all men are good and intelligent.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/19 01:54 PM
2

There are clubs and there are clubs... I've never seen grabbing or bad behaviour at the clubs that have some standards for clients.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/19 06:38 PM
2

Isn't it the exact opposite? TRP thinks that women are subhuman, vile, deceitful and stupid beings without thoughts or real feelings. They appreciate even dogs more than women. Normal, non-pilled people consider both men and women humans, each having their own flaws and virtues.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/19 05:42 PM
3

And not just that. It really is better when you really desire a person. Their body just looks the best. I have a friend that is obsessed with sports and gym and has really toned and muscular body but doesn't arouse any sexual feelings.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/19 07:06 PM
2

That is just wrong. You can't speak for all women. I absolutely find dadbod sexy if I desire that person and other person with sixpack and toned body might not be desirable at all. You might speak for some but not for all.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/19 06:11 PM
3

Point is, there is no difference based on gender in level of maturity and responsibilities between to adults who are childless. Women can't live irresponsibly and carefree.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/19 12:45 PM
2

How? A childless woman and a childless man can be equally immature and without responsibilities.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/19 12:30 PM
3

Paying 50-300 € per month (depending on income) is tiny fraction when you consider things like daycare, rent, clothes, hobbies that mom is ultimately responsible for. Being jailed for it might be some weird american thing but that doesn't happen in civilized countries.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/19 12:28 PM
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A really small minority of women live with parents and a very, very small minority of women are supported by boyfriends or husbands. In most cases responsibility is shared or if women live alone then they are responsible. There is no difference between men and women when they are single or a couple and women have more responsilibilities in a family.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/19 05:48 AM
5

How? In which ways women could be more immature? If they decide to have children they will have to be more mature. They are responsible for providing for their children. Men can only be forced to pay for a tiny share, but don't have to take care of kids and work full time.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/19 04:55 AM
0

You didn't (want to) understand me. Most of the time it's men and not women who want to have kids
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/19 08:22 AM
1

In my experience it's always men who want children and marriage. I think I could have stayed childless unless I agreed to have kids because men really, really wanted to.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/19 06:01 AM
2

Ugly men can date old women. They can even have kids with old women.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/19 04:56 PM
0

That's really fat. I'm 130 now post baby and I feel horrible and as soon as breastfeeding stops I will lose the weight.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/19 05:15 PM
1

What resources? Don't they both get resources if they become a double income couple? If both make about the same, because usually people mate with someone with similar income.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/19 03:02 AM
1

What?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/19 06:50 AM
5

Why do you date women over 40 if you find them to be repulsive and don't want to touch them?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/19 12:22 AM
1

I was talking about heterosexual women so you do need men in that. I guess male prostitutes are a thing, but many women don't want to use them.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/19 12:18 AM
2

I can't understand...
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/19 07:18 PM
3

Most people say that there is a limit for women because it isn't honorable anymore and people move to sleep in separate beds even.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/19 07:16 PM
2

That is not a lie. I now I can still pregnant.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/19 07:14 PM
1

Most people say that even the most beautiful women should stop at age 40, but I've never heard that men should stop at 60.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/19 07:10 PM
1

Why? If they get married young? And if he has a mistress then why shouldn't she get a lover until she is too old?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/19 07:08 PM
2

But if she finds a lover? Husband (in your response) refuses to have sex with her, but should she stop or find someone else?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/19 07:06 PM
1

Men are just crazy. I guess women should be euthanized at thirty if we ask men's opinion.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/19 06:02 PM
2

Woman whose wearing jeans in the front with the dog and the man in the middle with blue and white shirt are average, others are below average.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/19 06:11 PM
1

I know that because I'm a woman, but I just can't understand why some men still think women just want money from them. Maybe they have such low self-esteem that they don't see themselves as lovable.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/19 05:49 PM
5

Wouldn't it be just easier to focus on making money rather than focus on getting a man with money? Then you would have your own money plus you could try to find real love.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/19 05:22 PM
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You don't seem to understand how it really is for ugly women. I could never get anyone to have just sex with me, but I get sex in return from my husband for doing all the chores and working full time.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/19 08:26 AM
9

He's not angry because he lost his love, he's angry because his slave escaped. He just wanted to punish her because she wasn't submissive. Whole RP is based on an idea that women are not humans, but stupid and deceitfuls animals that should be controlled when they are useful and then discarded.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/19 07:19 AM
1

Because they don't see as human.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/19 06:52 AM
2

Women don't like rejection either, but when women feel bad about being friend-zoned then it's not a problem because rejected women are ugly anyway. Ugly people's feelings don't matter to most people.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/19 02:23 PM
2

When I had a dating profile I didn't think anyone would care. I really couldn't understand why some men would put their height so visible in their profile.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/19 06:11 PM
2

How does that logic even work? How can it be cheaper to live alone with one income and pay hookers than live together and have two incomes not pay hookers.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/19 07:58 AM
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No one cares if ugly woman's life is hard. You always seem to think that there are two kinds of people; men and pretty women. Ugly women are not human, just ogres without humanity.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/19 03:39 AM
1

You need to define average. I consider myself average and I have never, ever had orbiter or even a friend that would consider me sexually attractive. Average to me would mean normal height, normal weight (not fat, not skinny) and average job.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/19 03:17 PM
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They might different women... or come from different cultures. I've only heard height requirements from americans or from women obsessed with social media.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/19 03:52 AM
-2

Being shunned, living as an outcast and making all your relatives face public humiliation are powerful tools. Not to mention having to live in complete solitude for the rest of your life.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/19 03:59 AM
-3

Everyone thinks badly about a woman that is treated badly. If you leave, you're a shallow slut and a disobedient feminist. If you stay you're still shallow and you must be a horrible person to make someone treat you that bad. There's no way to win, which makes the abuser the only person that she has a human contact with.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/19 03:50 AM
-7

Women don't put up with shitty behaviour because a guy is hot. They put up with it because of social pressure. If you leave him, you are a slut that keeps trying to find a better guy, if he does something bad then you must have been a bad girlfriend/wife to make him do bad things.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/19 03:25 AM
2

Never ever in my life. Not even in islamic countries or when I was only woman and only "white" person in one workplace.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/19 05:20 PM
2

I understand that they try to hurt other's feelings, byt why? What good comes to the one hurting others?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/19 05:31 PM
3

As an ogre maybe? It's just the saying that all women are X, no expetions and I know that it doesn't apply to me so, idk?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/19 09:25 AM
3

I hate games and tactics and always have been bad at them. I identify as a woman eventhough many redpillers label me differently. Honesty is easiest and showing your emotions.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/19 08:44 AM
2

No, I really don't understand what people wish to achieve by saying sexist comments, what purpose does it serve?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/19 05:46 AM
1

Maybe I'm just too ugly then to understand being mean, cold and selfish. But you are still so young that you will probably come softer and empatethic.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/19 05:24 PM
1

Then why would you believe in red pill? Do you hate women or just see them inferior or what is the motivation?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/19 05:02 PM
1

Because if you have been truly loved you didn't believe her and thought she is just attracted by your status.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/19 04:45 PM
1

Dating does not equal having sex... takes a little time to develop desire.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/19 04:12 PM
2

Well, at communist times at least and three is pretty normal age to put kids to daycare. It's not like mums stay at home until kids are grown ups.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/19 04:10 PM
1

I am now (post-baby) european size 36, but I have always went down to my natural size 32-34 when I stop breastfeeding and start sleeping whole nights. I don't feel chubby really, but I feel the extra softness and fullness. Edit: but I do realize that I am fat by red pill standards and women 20 years younger than me should be size 30-32
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/19 02:39 PM
2

You know, where they fatten people with strawberries and cream, chocolate cakes and creme brulees.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/19 02:27 PM
2

It is easy to get a guy to commit, men are usually more eager to commit.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/19 02:19 PM
8

Very normal in many European countries to work full time and send kids to daycare. These countries have not collapsed yet. My mum worked, my granmother worked and it's the same for most people in northern and eastern Europe. Kids still spend evenings, mornings, weekends and holidays with parents
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/19 02:18 PM
1

I don't think that casual sex is limited by moral only, some people just don't like it.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/19 02:14 PM
1

I think tinder has the opposite effect, shows you that while there are many men out there who are matching and many who want LTR that there is something unique and special about you why she chose you. She knows she has options and you are best, it's not like she settled because you were the only available.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/19 02:05 PM
4

And it seems weird that women are still(in USA) supposed to stay at home after having children. Surely a two income family is financially more stable.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/19 01:46 PM
2

Those are exactly the type of women who this would work on, they get hooked on someone fast and after being rejected get mean and vindictive.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/19 09:18 AM
1

I gave examples of negging in other post. See those.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/19 09:10 AM
1

Isn't disagreement if feminism? How can you disagree if you obey your husband? Stop having arguments and just say yes regardless what it is.
/r/RedPillWomen26/06/19 03:43 AM
1

You wanted red pill and now you have red pill, enjoy. Remember, you're feelings come last and it's under his mercy to release from your duties. You should be happy that you are doing chores, after all, it's the way to show love to your husband. It would be nagging and feminism to speak about how you feel and come up with solution for both of you. Just try to pretend you're happy, look pretty and cry alone.
/r/RedPillWomen26/06/19 03:38 AM
1

Most humans have good intentions and not doing good things is usually caused by lack of time or resources. People do good things all the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/19 03:21 AM
1

Ok, if I believe that all women are like that, then what am I? If I'm not a real woman, but don't identify as man, am I a personless being? You are gatekeeping gender.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/19 03:16 AM
1

But you do realize that ugly women are also women? If you try these things on a ugly woman it won't work, so it doesn't work on all women.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/19 06:58 PM
0

Because the only reason a red pill man would say that to a woman is to make her think she is ugly or say it in a sarcastic way to make her think she is dumb. For example if you are talking about normal things and man says; wow, you're really smart for knowing so much about this issue.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/19 06:50 PM
1

He didn't explain it, it wasn't and it isn't that hard to tell when people think that way.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/19 06:46 PM
1

Red pill is setting yourself up for failure. If a woman truly loves a red pill man he will either push her away by treating her with arrogance and paranoia or believe her but think that she must be low worth woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/19 06:43 PM
1

My examples were compliments that were negative, not real compliments.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/19 06:35 PM
0

I will never try it, I don't hate myself. Like I said, I was once (or several times) proposed by someone who thought that red pill ideas are truth. That was my reason to say no to an otherwise nice person.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/19 06:32 PM
0

I didn't mean that anyone would use plain insults, just tried to compliment in a way that sounds like it isn't a compliment. Women are not that dumb that they wouldn't notice. Like saying that she has great haircolor, is it natural and making her think her roots are showing or that you don't appreciate natural hair tone. Or saying that you think she is really smart.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/19 06:27 PM
2

Red pill makes actual women feel like they are either inferior or they are not women at all. I have been called a being because I can't be accepted as a woman by redpillers. I am forced to identify as gay transsexual male.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/19 06:12 PM
1

Red pill isn't monolith but all women in the world are a throughly hideous hivemind. Ok then...
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/19 05:58 PM
2

I'm sorry I exist, I won't do it again.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/19 05:57 PM
1

What are those people who don't identify as male but don't meet your criteria of woman?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/19 05:54 PM
1

Then why would negging have different term than flirting. Flirting would be positive and couraging (I imagine, never flirted myself)
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/19 05:46 PM
1

Middle and lower class people would go to therapy if they had very serious issues ( because it costs) and majority of people are still mostly sane and balanced. And your point was that all women need therapy, not that some women need it.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/19 05:44 PM
1

That is well put. I have often wondered why I have some friends who complain why they never meet anyone who wants a relationship and they will only get used for sex. I can't tell them directly that being so hungry for attention and in need of validation that they are willing to date anyone who they think is "a good catch" in their social circles they are setting themselves up to be used.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/19 05:42 PM
0

That would not be a red pill woman. Red pill men always emphasize that men work and lazy women just exist and steal their money. And if someone wants to change their job they actually have do something and not just manipulate others too think they are doing something better.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/19 02:35 PM
1

What would be the correct way then?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/19 02:10 PM
2

Both dread and negging have always been described as being negative. Why would someone tolerate that?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/19 02:10 PM
1

Give examples of science? Links to actual studies or their abstracts and not to unscientific articles or surveys that disguise as a study. Also, most sociological and psychological studies only apply to certain cultures or demographics but somehow red pill claims to be universal, why?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/19 01:29 PM
2

Yes, all other women than upper class american women are those who never went to therapy.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/19 01:25 PM
6

That is just pointless argument. Why do you think women would lie and they would not even know that they are telling a lie? What if they are telling the truth? What if women actually act like humans?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/19 01:23 PM
2

Then what are those people look like women, identify as women but are not psychologically like women?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/19 01:19 PM
3

Advantages or disadvantages of having a child out of wedlock come from jurisdiction. I got married just before giving birth in case I happen to die, but my brother got married to his wife some weeks after having their child. Some people cohabit and some not. Here most women who have kids out of wedlock still live as a nuclear family. There is only a very, very small minority of black people and they are mostly muslim so...
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/19 01:17 PM
1

So most women are not human... that just confirms my theory that woman means only insecure, neurotic and beauty obsessed women to red pill theorists.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/19 01:11 PM
3

Normal would be something that most do, but it's a minority that ties their self worth to who their husband is or what they do. I've rarely seen these women who act like women should act according to red pill to be happy, but I have seen regular women happy.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/19 01:08 PM
0

That's the point, if you need to show to others that you have something trendy or expensive even if you don't need it or want it, it's a sign of low self esteem. Need for validation from unknown people.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/19 10:28 AM
3

If sees not that into you and you try to neg her by saying she is ugly/fat/loser she will just think you have a bad day or you have lost interest and she will leave you alone. If she's not into you and you neg her by telling you have others she will just be happy for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/19 10:16 AM
1

Sounds about right. Also evolution psychology based on animals applied to humans when our biology makes mating and rearing completely different than apes.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/19 10:11 AM
1

I proved my point. You would never try to argue in such a pointless manner with a man.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/19 10:09 AM
2

Your argument seems pointless. Having the child out of wedlock doesn't mean that they don't live in nuclear family or that couple doesn't get married after giving birth.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/19 10:08 AM
1

I spoke about the women who the red pill theories are used on, not the men using them and "improving" themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/19 10:06 AM
1

Ok, but what are the people that don't identify as male but do not respond to red pill?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/19 10:01 AM
8

What has having children out of wedlock have anything to do with the whole thing? I meant the issues that one might have and was using their husband or man as trophy or a thing to show to others, to get social validation or imagine that they would get social validation.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/19 09:38 AM
3

Bp is of course mutual respect, there is no real love without equality, trust and respect and it goes both ways. No one has ever said that men should not be respected, that is just red pill paranoia how they think woman would treat them if they weren't controlled. It is just projection. The rest of your post is just childish and you know it.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/19 09:16 AM
1

I really, genuinely thought that this sub is meant for blue pill as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/19 08:46 AM
1

But you agree with me that if red pill would treat women as actual humans then there would be no difference between red and blue.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/19 08:14 AM
1

Does red pill then think that women have valuable feelings, opinions, concerns or intellectual capacity? Or are all women shallow and dumb bitches with morality of cat in heat?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/19 07:50 AM
4

You have gotten things all wrong. It's not oppression or toxic to have mutual respect, fidelity and no violence in relationship. I personally could never be in a relationship with a red pill man, I'd rather be alone than suffer constant paranoia, belittling, cheating and irrational commands.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/19 07:18 AM
1

I'm not trolling, I merely can't believe that women are what red pills thinks they are.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/19 07:09 AM
1

Red pill is based on the idea that one should never treat women well because they are stupid and emotionless, subhuman creatures and men are perfect and wonderful and always right. It makes sense then that only shallow and simple women and arrogant and narcissitic men believe in that ideology.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/19 07:02 AM
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That was under the assumption that both are BP pill, if one of them is RP it wouldn't work. When I was young a red pill thinking man proposed me (couple of times) and I said no because I would have been too soft and kind for him. He has had many red pill wives since then.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/19 06:55 AM
2

Doesn't anyone like average? Only skinny or fat? (Average like 36-26-36 measurements)
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/19 06:16 AM
5

Nope. Thin women will have thin arms and legs, flat ass, flat chest and all excess weight on their waist and stomach while "fat" women will have muscular arms and legs, big breasts and wide hips and thighs.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/19 06:12 AM
1

Of course BP relationships are always better because they are companionship and love between two equal and emotional people and RP are not. RP relationship is between a facade of a paranoid man and oppressed and confused woman where woman is treated as if she is a shallow and childish sociopath that needs to be controlled. If some woman is RP then they must be shallow and emotionless bitch who thinks all women are. People must change to BP when they realize that women are humans who have same fe…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/19 03:39 AM
1

I have been in court about DV (and no, I 'm not a stupid bitch that calls the cops, I never did, but here doctors and hospitals have to report). My ex got fined for three assaults and one aggravated assault, other times I had asked police not to prosecute. I still find it not fair that people always think it's womans fault because she is unruly or rebellious, it's not always the case. Marital rape has been illelegal for about 20 years now, but has not been prosecuted often and raping and adult u…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/19 07:16 PM
1

So are women who have never been approached by any men in that sense always very ugly?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/19 06:24 PM
2

But wouldn't it be better if no one got sexist comments? I don't see point in them anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/19 03:26 PM
1

That was my point exactly. Men don't understand that women also feel hungry and don't just eat for fun. It seems that it's the same with sleep, men think that women sleep just because they are lazy and not because they need to sleep.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/19 02:46 PM
1

But if you agree on some issues, you still are a feminist. There are many feminists and many types of feminism so no one can agree with all of them. Basis of feminism was women's suffrage and legal emancipation and I consider all those who agree on those ideas feminists.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/19 02:42 PM
1

If you agree, then you are. There's nothing wrong with being a feminist.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/19 05:23 AM
1

In many countries girls can't attend school or they have to stop at least when they get their menstruation and in some countries girls parents or her future husbands parents decide that education is unnecessary or even harmful.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/19 04:36 AM
2

How about talking to her, noticing her, giving hugs and kisses and saying that it's ok to sleep 7-8 hours a night if she is tired.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/19 04:34 AM
1

You're the on trolling and just being vague on purpose. This seems like it's your personal hate and attack towards me.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/19 04:29 AM
1

I don't think it's awful to make domestic violence or even marital rape (at least during separation process) a crime. You argue that women should themselves be hold accountable for that, but when the situation is acute is better to stop violence and decide later in court if he was provoked. And even you must agree that there is difference in slight, corrective slaps, kicks or whipping and stabbing and strangling. Both arr illegal at the moment, but unless there are witnesses or clear bruising, c…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/19 04:17 AM
1

I asked that many times, but no one answered. Right to vote, have education, to marry or divorce, to work, to have yout own bank account etc. And about non-juridical rights, men should be educated more so they wouldn't blame women for giving birth to girls.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/19 04:03 AM
1

Then that it is even more absurd to oppose women's rights. I can't understand why red pill women themselves think that they could never be real adults.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/19 03:56 AM
2

Why do you say you don't like feminists if you do like goals of feminism? There is nothing wrong with me, I just don't understand this weird anti-feminist logic.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/19 08:27 PM
2

Then why equal rights are bad if also feminists want them? I'm wrong for wanting same rights.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/19 08:11 PM
2

The point was to understand why people think that equal rights are a bad idea?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/19 07:51 PM
2

I just can't understand why you try to change subject instead of answering honestly.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/19 07:46 PM
2

See my previous reply. I asked you to finish one sentence for clarification. Either you can do it or you must a closeted feminist.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/19 07:42 PM
2

Ok, so you can't even give a simple answer.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/19 07:40 PM
2

That's like saying that atheism doesn't have monopoly in not believing in gods.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/19 07:37 PM
2

It's hard because you keep twisting your words. Feminism wants equal rights for men and women and egalitarianism wants..? I'd say equal rights, but you keep saying it isn't so. Please, finish that sentence correctly so I can see the real idea you're trying to explain.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/19 07:36 PM
2

That is a nonsensical thing to say. Why would someone be pro women's rights and at the same time against women's rights? Where does this fear of saying that you are pro equality come from?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/19 07:32 PM
2

Yes... so what would be those rights and priviledges that should be male only?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/19 07:29 PM
2

You really can't even try to give an honest answer? I'm not trolling, I just think it's dishonest to say that you hate feminism and still say you like women even when you don't want them to have same rights.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/19 07:27 PM
2

What is the point where they draw the line? What is the priviledge or right that should be for men only so it can be called egalitarianism.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/19 07:22 PM
2

Confusing. You say you consider everyone equally worthy, but you don't want to consider yourself as someone who thinks men and women equally worthy?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/19 07:20 PM
2

So you agree that egalitarianism is part of feminism?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/19 07:18 PM
3

If you like feminism then why do you hate that term?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/19 07:17 PM
2

Ok, explain then what is the differnce between giving women some rights and aiming towards equal rights? Where does one draw the line? What is still ok, but what should be left for men only so that it cannot be called feminism? And where does this irrational fear come from?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/19 07:15 PM
3

That is correct. Jesus had very communist ideas in the bible and even americans think those are good ideas.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/19 07:13 PM
2

It has monopoly on equality between sexes, because once something aims at equality between sexes, it becomes part of feminism. I really can't understand why some men have such a strong fear or hate against women's rights.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/19 07:11 PM
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You may not identify as feminist (no one can understand weird reasons for that), but if you allow women to read, write, vote, marry or work, other people will think you are a feminist.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/19 07:08 PM
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Feminism is aiming for equality. Equality is part of feminism.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/19 07:01 PM
4

What is stupid about asking why some people are against feminism? It can be very clear to you that why you consider women less intelligent and capable, but it's not clear everyone.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/19 07:00 PM
4

Everything that gives women rights IS feminism. If you don't hit your wife or you let her vote or you don't punish her for giving birth to a girl then you are doing feminist things. There is no other term for that.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/19 06:57 PM
3

You still failed to explain why you oppose equal rights and equal treatment of men and women?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/19 06:53 PM
1

People always say that they believe men and women have both human rights but oppose women's suffrage or their right to employment without permission of their father or husband. Their only reason is that they don't like feminism because they don't like feminism.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/19 06:49 PM
4

I can't understand why people associate all kinds of non-essential things like looks to feminism when feminism is just thinking that men and women are equally worthy and women should be emancipated ie. not under any man's custody. Nowadays only non-feminist countries are Saudi-Arabia and Afghanistan.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/19 06:30 PM
3

There's no point. If she doesn't want anything and tells that then no point getting her anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/19 06:23 PM
0

What would that even test? If she didn't need anything for her birthday? Also, why would any woman tolerate scolding after being assaulted/cheated?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/19 06:03 PM
0

I said red pill men. Normal men find healthy weight women with feminine hip/waist ratio attractive. Only a minority of women want abs or 6 feet tall men. Many women want a man that has good proportions of shoulders and hips, but that has a lot to do with posture.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/19 04:55 PM
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If it is so easy for women to stay perpetually hungry and only eat about 1000-1500 kcal a day, then why obese men exist? Wouldn't it be even easier to eat 2500-3000 kcal a day and be at healthy weight? Red pill men think that only size 0 is accebtable when also sizes 2-6 are at healthy weight.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/19 04:23 PM
2

Just stop having hookups or other short term relationships and only date those who want something serious.
/r/RedPillWomen21/06/19 07:34 AM
0

Would you consider your friend or girlfriend weak if she shared her thoughts or troubles to you? Obviously most men in ppd would just tell women to marry someone rich if they had any problems. Laid off? Marry a provider. Houserenovation takes longer than expected? Marry a provider. Got cancer? Hahaa, you've hit the wall and will be discarded.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/19 04:50 AM
1

I've always wondered about this answer. All the men who say that women need a man to support them, what do they think that happens to womens salaries?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/19 03:17 AM
3

If women want kids, marriage is not necessary, sperm banks exist.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/19 03:15 AM
2

You should not believe these people. Do you really think that in LTR you can keep a facade at all times? Why do that? If a couple is together for a long period of time they will face hardships together. There might be financial, health, work related or social problems. If you lose your job, get mental problems or addiction or if you're parents need help when they get old who will help you? Your wife. If you don't trust her that she will, then don't marry her in the first place.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/19 02:40 AM
-1

How do women punish then? By hugging, talking, taking steps to help you overcome your problems? Those are pretty much all things I could imagine someone doing if their partner needed comforting.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/19 02:26 AM
-1

How stupid are you?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/19 02:23 AM
4

Or maybe you should listen to your wife and let her be vulnerable as well. Try to think that she is human and not a woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/19 02:20 AM
1

Whenever you feel vulnerable. If someone hurts you or leaves you or thinks less of you because of that, then you are with a wrong person and you should find someone else.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/19 02:16 AM
1

I think the whole red pill ideology is result of (american) culture and red pill could only work in cultures where Hofstede's cultural values of masculinity is high and power distances are big.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/19 06:19 PM
1

I think the same way. I would be very disappointed if I was with a red pill man and sometimes it seems that women who like red pill men are little simple.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/19 06:01 AM
0

I have never heard of this legislation that forces people to be something else than cis heterosexual, could you give an example of that? Giving rights to others is not forcing or telling about gays or transsexuals is not forcing. I don't personally have any special opinion about lgbtq people and I don't celebrate pride, but I'm happy to let others do what they want.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/19 04:01 PM
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I didn't say that it is bad or good. Feminism just means that someone considers men and women equally worthy and thinks they are competent adults. Many people think women are not equal and are not considered emancipated adults. It's just a different opinion.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/19 01:01 PM
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She said she isn't feminist so she believes women should not be equal because women are less worthy. That is very basic idea of feminism, emancipation of women instead of considered to be under guardianship of men as a lesser being.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/19 09:09 AM
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Wait a few years and you realize that a person can be a loving wife and mother and still consider women equally worthy as men. Also, letting others live as they please doesn't mean that you have to live like them. I don't need to hate lgbtq etc to be happy and boringly monogamous heterosexual.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/19 03:31 AM
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Yes they should. Why shouldn't they?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/19 06:35 PM
1

Because when I say how I behave and how my friends behave you tell me that it's not true and we either don't know what we feel or that we lie about everything. I think that I know more about me than you do.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/19 04:17 PM
1

Ok, I have not experienced anyone initiating sex in public so...
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/19 03:10 PM
1

You just can't see women as human. Pointless to debate.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/19 03:09 PM
2

I know plenty of women, even women younger than I am and I have very rarely seen policing and that has funnily enough come from those who are promiscuous themselves. I don't see the point, why would I care about what others do. Live and let live.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/19 02:43 PM
1

Either you know very weird and immature women or you actually don't know any women. All you say is male projection. Women really, really don't care about promiscuity of others.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/19 02:34 PM
2

If it was then it is roleplay with safewords, but no sane person would play stupid games in casual sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/19 02:27 PM
2

Women can think nice thoughts without lies. You seem to think that only nice thing about women is how easy or not easy they are. Women themselves don't care at all, they value themselves based on other things.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/19 02:22 PM
1

You wrote that only an idiot would stop if partner didn't want sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/19 02:20 PM
2

What actual experience would I need to understand that it doesn't work like that? There is no other reason to change from no yes after pushing, forcing or threatening than fear.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/19 02:19 PM
1

Why would you say that only an idiot would only have consensual sex? Why do you think it's smart to force someone against their will and hurt them?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/19 02:15 PM
2

Where have you met them? If it is some type of weird cultural thing. Never heard this happening in western countries.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/19 02:11 PM
2

Why? What would we gain from that?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/19 02:08 PM
2

No one thinks like that. Women don't have lie to themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/19 02:04 PM
3

I can't understand why men say that? Is it to relieve guilt from forcing and pushing or do they really think that women don't like sex and only way to have sex is to threaten them to cave in. It's never a game to say no, if it turns to yes it's out of fear.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/19 02:03 PM
1

Every time a woman tells that they are attracted to different type of men that those described as alpha you just keep adding new traits to list that define alpha.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/19 12:47 PM
2

They lie unless they have more than ten kids.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/19 10:27 AM
4

So if she gives up for fear of something more violent happening because she can't escape then you're ok with it? That's kind of the only scenario where no would turn into yes. Or if you threaten to hurt her children.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/19 08:19 AM
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Custodial parent has to spend money as well, usually more than non custodial parent. Kids are fed, clothed, have their own rooms, toys and hobbies. If children are not taken care of then they will change the custodial parent in court. Comparing single men to men with families is pointless because single women usually also buy a small condo instead of a house. And marble countertops... eyeroll...
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/19 06:51 AM
2

Why do men think that money goes to the wife if they spend it on normal things like house, car, utilities, groceries? She pays the other half so why it would only be real love if she paid all? Also, child support goes to children and is determined so that both parents have to pay and that it's not more is needed to live adequate life.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/19 06:08 AM
0

Yes. European women don't like arrogant show offs and they don't need alphas or providers.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/19 07:35 PM
5

Time and different circadian rhythm. Working full time, commute, working out (so you can work), chores and being naturally an early bird makes online dating easiest option.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/19 12:54 PM
2

People can have standards, but they shouldn't force those on others. He says he is average, but wants to have a hot girl. I just wanted to know what are the things that are dealbreakers for him? What details are needed to make someone hot enough?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/19 11:46 AM
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No, 5/10 is more like top 10%. They are not graded on curve. They think that average man should get hot women and below average should get ok looking women. Majority of women are useless to them. I don't understand how that would work in world where there are almost as many men and women.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/19 11:37 AM
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So you don't want an average girl that really likes you now, because you think that later you can find a hot girl that tolerates you? Why average is not enough for you?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/19 10:05 AM
1

Known them for long time, loayalty, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/19 08:35 AM
1

I just feel that it would be pointless to have STR with someone who is trying to be too hard and who is mean or puts others down. I've only seen women who think it's rare or difficult to find a tall, muscular guy with decent amount of money to be impressed so much by them that they have sex without feelings.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/19 03:59 AM
0

Yes, I have some friends who are red pilled and who try to pick up women, plate them, neg them and try to be as alpha as possible. ( good career, new bmw or harley, at least 6ft tall). I wouldn't date them or be picked up by them, but I see the women that they have.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/19 03:42 AM
1

So instead of explaining what benefits women would get from that behaviour you just call me too ugly to understand it. Eyeroll...
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/19 08:08 PM
2

Why would someone have sex with a horrible man? What would women get from that, what would be their motivation to do it? If you say that women are masochists and are turned on by those men then there has to be category for people who look like women, but don't behave that way.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/19 07:54 PM
2

No, about women who marry the man they really love and they find sexually most arousing and who don't want to be less than equal and who don't care about arrogance, money or status and who don't want to share their man. Women who like men that are not "bad boys" or "nice guys". Average people who have good and bad in them.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/19 07:48 PM
2

Ok, but what are those people who look like women but don't act like they should according to red pill theory?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/19 07:38 PM
2

So the theory is based on small portion of men and women and somehow it becomes universally accepted theory anyway, how? Why would women share a man? Or do you mean serial monogamy as sharing? Most women are with normal men, not arrogant "players" or "nice guys".
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/19 07:32 PM
2

Of course not. Why commit to a man if that man isn't most arousing man and best lover you've had? Strong can be dumb, mean, unloving, doesn't smell nice etc so they can be not arousing.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/19 07:16 PM
1

Evolution would not benefit from human males to be bad to women. Whole theory is based on some women who have issues and want to be treated badly or want to gain status by being with a man that they think has status. What are those people who look like women, are heterosexual but behave normally and have normal relationships with normal men?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/19 07:11 PM
1

Many men want to be loved as a whole person, not just as a provider. Again, I 've seen red pill working only on women with self esteem issues or women with personality disorder. If we want to think that red pill is right, then we need to find a new gender for people who have womans body but non female feelings.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/19 07:02 PM
1

There might not be benefits, but some people want to treat others well because it's right thing to do and they might actually see that women are valuable and capable equals. It doesn't do any harm at least and they might enjoy the chance to be truly loved. Also, being a "player" doesn't mean that you think women are below you.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/19 06:51 PM
-1

Being masculine doesn't mean that you are asshole or chauvinist.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/19 01:56 PM
0

I haven't experienced any red pill theories to work for me personally so I'd say that normal woman are logical. I have seen red pill work for some women with self esteem issues or personality disorders.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/19 09:01 AM
0

Why isn't equality (not always similarity) an option for red pill men? And why would any SANE woman choose a red pill man over loving normal man?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/19 04:19 AM
1

Now you are just misunderstanding me on purpose.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/19 10:27 AM
3

Paying for children will result in lower crime rate. Also, military is not aid for third world countries and many times aid is less beneficial than fair trade would be.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/19 06:31 AM
6

Payments are determined by ability to pay (and childs needs). If you later get unemployed after the sum has been set, you can get payments down, but you need to be active yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/19 06:29 AM
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I didn't speak about replacing child support, I talked about extra care for those in CPS custody or orphans etc. Maybe less prisons and smaller military could help.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/19 05:32 AM
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If you don't support the children who come from bad backgrounds, you'll end up paying for prisons, police, mental hospitals and drug clinics later. If you help children in need, more of them will become productive members of society. It is good use of taxpayers resources.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/19 05:23 AM
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Why do so many men seem to think that it benefits the woman to pay child support? Because the parent who has custody ends up paying more anyway. Or do people really think that that 100-300€/per month is a lot?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/19 05:17 AM
0

I don't know about USA,but at least here where I live, parents have to pay to governent. Either directly or their pay or social benefits gets omitted.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/19 05:11 AM
5

Values and cuisine are not racial, they are cultural traits.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/19 08:04 AM
2

I think men who think like you would be better off hiring a maid, but that would cost. Or change the laws to be gender neutral. Usually marriage is financially more beneficial because two income family makes more than one income family. Also, if wifely duties are expected then men should realize that years of sleep deprivation and not meeting friends or relatives very often make even women tired.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/19 07:16 AM
2

I've asked this many times here and just gotten the answer f you bitch. How does american marriage legally offer perks for women? Just comparing it to laws of my country where it's neutral and doesn't offer added perks unless one spouse dies.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/19 04:26 AM
5

Could it be that women are not a hivemind? Some women like casual sex, some women don't. And some say they want to have LTR but choose casual sex anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/19 02:07 PM
1

It's not a gender issue, it's culture. I've heard many american men complaining about it. I know laws of my country quite well (did my minors in juridical faculty) and here no one profits in divorce.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/19 04:04 AM
1

That problem would be solved by getting married in different country or signing a prenupt. (Most places allow you to use the laws of the place where you were married in case of divorce)
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/19 03:58 AM
13

Your text is a good reminder that women who want to be valued should never marry christian man.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/19 06:43 PM
3

TIL I'm not an actual woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/19 10:32 AM
4

TIL I'm not a real woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/19 10:09 AM
3

Many women date and marry men that are average height or below. And do it even when really tall men are available and ready for LTR.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/19 09:55 AM
2

If you keep searching for shallow women then you find them. Stop ignoring those who are not or accept the fact that you yourself are attracted to shallowness.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/19 09:54 AM
1

So you must be under 5'2" ? That would be shorter than majority of women and then those who see it as problem make a big proportion of dating pool.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/19 09:50 AM
2

Why is it so important for you to be right instead of being happy? Happily dating. Ok, tens of millions of women in Europe then.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/19 09:39 AM
1

You are moving goalposts again. Question wasn't about what attractive women think, question was aimed to all women. There are literally hundreds of millions of women in the world who don't care about height, but they just don't meet your standards.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/19 09:24 AM
-1

You're just moving goalposts. I didn't say that there aren't any women who don't have height fetish, I said that there are women who don'tcare about height.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/19 08:32 AM
1

But here they are not accepted, quite the opposite. Also, they have nothing to gain by telling the truth here.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/19 07:31 AM
1

Ok, but why would they lie about what they want? Why would they also turn down tall men?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/19 06:49 AM
1

So you are saying that women who don't have height preference are liars? For those women being tall doesn't get the foot in the door.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/19 06:05 AM
4

So people who agree with you are honest and those who disagree lie? So it couldn't be because they really have different preference?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/19 05:15 AM
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Why do you think that all women lie about it? That they lie about all the men they have been attracted to and that they lie about all the tall men that they aren't attracted to even when those men have shown interest to them.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/19 05:08 AM
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So you are saying that all women that disagree are lying? Please, could you give me information about reliable information about women always wanting men taller than average and disregarding character and behaviour.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/19 04:42 AM
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Why is it so hard for you to believe women when they tell you what are they really attracted to? Is it because height is an easy scapegoat? Many men blame height because it's something they can't change when their real problem could be their character and changing that would need work and becoming more humble.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/19 03:48 AM
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Almost all men are taller than women and if someone is very short (under 160) they can be with short women or women who don't care about height.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/19 03:35 AM
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It doesn't mean that someone is not sexual if they have different preference. Social media presents only fraction of women and only fraction of their preferences. If you are very, very short then yes, there might be some women who want to be with someone taller, but for majority of men, height is not an issue.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/19 08:09 PM
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Of course he is good looking, but height is not that important to most women. And people's preferences vary, I don't like men who are too lean. Also, yes, he is taller than me because I'm 5 feet 2 inches. In general, men seem to overestimate looks and underestimate touch, scent and honesty when in comes to being attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/19 07:35 PM
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I'm a woman. I turned down a 6ft something guy (who's really into red pill) and later married the only man that has made enjoy sex. He's below average height and muscular dad bod with broad shoulders, just like I have always wanted. We actually argued about this at work when couple of us female workers thought that one of our customers was good looking. Men said that he really shouldn't be considered good looking because women don't like short and unfit men. Edit: turned him down when he propose…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/19 07:11 PM
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Why do men think that man has to be tall and buff to be desirable? When women don't feel that way.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/19 06:59 PM
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What are you saying? Didn't you understand or do you pretend to misunderstand?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/19 12:27 PM
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I don't hate them or even dislike them and I don't know many who do. Live and let live. Continuing your shop analogy, I think we have different customers. I am an actual, regular woman btw.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/19 11:59 AM
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What would women achieve by slut shaming? Having casual sex is not my thing, but if someone likes it then they should be free to do it, why would someone mind?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/19 07:30 PM
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How do you define Chad? How do you define bb? In the context of this question.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/19 12:33 PM
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Women don't have children by themselves, so both men and women need daycare. And women pay taxes as well. It just is better for society economically. Don't you think it is good that people can marry and have families with person they love and not with someone that can afford it? It also helps families stay together during financial or health crisis. Edit. Of course there are many other good things besides sex, I'm just saying that love and sex in marriage is a great thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/19 07:06 AM
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I said that women SHOULD work after having kids, that's why good daycare is needed. I work 40 hrs a week, my husband does the same. I also live in Scandinavia and while women don't use sex it still doesn't promiscuity, cheating or porn. Sex is wonderful and one of the best things in life, but I would only have it with my husband.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/19 06:55 AM
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I think most people in the world want love and sex, I don't know in which way you imagine Scandinavia being different? Genuinely asking, I don't understand what are you refering here. Also, how does women working full-time mean communisim? Women work in private sector as well and also men work in public sector. Good daycare and good schools are just the most effective way to keep people in wotkforce.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/19 06:36 AM
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If that is true, in which ways american women have more power than women in Scandinavia? In my opinion, USA needs more feminism to be truly equal. There really shouldn't be need for women to give up work when they have kids.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/19 06:07 AM
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Even when I was young, I really did not have any men showing attention, invisible or visible. HOW would those invisible men had shown attention if they are invisible?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/19 03:35 AM
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So your test would override my (and many other womens) experiences in life because..? There aren't men showing attention to ugly women in real life. And I didn't even know I was ugly before I read opinions of red pill males. I was even uglier when I was young if measuring by attention received.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/19 03:29 AM
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What would you try to prove with that?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/19 02:19 PM
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Why have they changed the laws in countries where majority of voters are women? Don't you think it's because it benefits women as well. I don't think women want to be treated as a lesser being that can't provide for themselves. I really, really think that many problems that red pill considers gender issues are issues of culture and cultural values. (I refer to Hofstede here)
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/19 09:44 AM
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I think it's combination of touch, scent and feeling approved.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/19 08:00 AM
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That's why I said that if you are not happy with american laws then change them to be similar to those in northern Europe. Here very few women manage with part-time jobs. Edit: most women don't marry a provider, they marry lifepartner, lover, companion. Problem isn't men and women, problem is values in american culture.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/19 05:53 AM
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Why would you think that you have more experience about being a woman than I have?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/19 05:39 AM
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Why can't you just change the law? Many countries there is no spousal support after divorce and in divorce you only share assets acquired together, but keep what you had before marriage. Also, I find it difficult to believe that many would have the means to just stay unemployed for fun. Even if they had, a gap in their CV would be difficult to explain when applying for next job.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/19 05:35 AM
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Comment is not a joke. It seems that OP wants to get dates and meet a lot of people and many people here comment that all girls and young women get attention and get asked out a lot. There are many women who don't get any attention and are not approached by men even when they are trying to look pretty. If you are normal weight, hourglass shaped, have long hair and try dress nicely but you are still invisible then it's either plastic surgery or getting together with a man that has other prioritie…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/19 05:47 PM
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Well, for some women there isn't a guide on how to be pretty unless they have a lot of money for cosmetic surgery.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/19 10:51 AM
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I have both and I love them equally, but I know that girls will suffer so much more in their lives. I just hope they will be strong enough to not get married.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/19 06:40 PM
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I have never seen people do it outside the instamodel world or lazy and talentless bimbos. (Which are tiny minority of women)
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/19 09:27 AM
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I think it's the other way around. At 32 you should know that no money in the world can make you love someone you don't and that you should really only count on yourself to provide.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/19 08:47 AM
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If they are alpha then I really, really can't understand what woman would prefer those alphas.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/19 08:44 AM
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This is true in most European countries. Red pill seems to be really American thing. Maybe Europeans aren't so shallow and they don't have chance to develop so much hate.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/19 06:27 AM
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I think you just consider pretty women here. I have gone out a few times when I was young and no one has ever approached me.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/19 09:30 AM
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How can you make that assumption? Why does it seem such a horrible idea to have a marriage where both work and both have average salary?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/19 04:03 PM
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Very often and new couples like that are formed every day. Just look around you. There are many women in monogamous relationships even if they would be financially better of single or as single mums.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/19 03:52 PM
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Well, yours haven't worked and mine have, so what have you got to lose if you try a different approach?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/19 06:34 AM
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You didn't. You only said the things you do to make her feel like a dumb, entitled and heartless person who should perform a role for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/19 06:28 AM
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But what do you do together? How do you make each other feel that you are companions, partners and best friends as well?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/19 05:16 AM
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I mean for more than five minutes... and also, when both parents are working and have small kids might not be time for sex more couple of times a week. Even if she would like more. Maybe you should really just talk to her like she is a person.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/19 04:11 AM
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Just try the opposite and treat her like a human.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/19 04:03 AM
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You really shouldn't be in a relationship if you can't discuss your feelings. That would be so hard to have partner that would never feel anything or share anything, like being married to a robot or stone. That would cause the relationship to end when the other person would be frustrated with just a shell of relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/19 04:01 AM
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She is like most women are and the women that red pill men want are the exception. IRL I've seen red pill behaviour only on women that have mental health problems or personality disorder. I think many red pill men are projecting. They consider a woman as trofee and an household appliance and can't understand why women would love men as humans.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/19 03:49 AM
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Well... I've heard red pill men say that all women past 25 or so are ugly. Also, you need to be thin (normal is not enough), tall, blonde and have big breasts.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/19 04:03 AM
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Well, maybe you'll grow when you get older and get to know more people and start realizing that even women over 25 are still women and exist.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/19 05:18 PM
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How do men treat ugly women? Some well, some not and that's the way women treat men as well. You should remember that when you say women it means all women of all ages and ethnicities.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/19 04:40 PM
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I might know someone like that, but not many. Women are not perfect, no one is perfect. Most men and women have both good and bad and their flaws are not always the same and usually not gendered. I try to keep superficial people away from me anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/19 04:21 PM
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We must know different women...
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/19 03:57 PM
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How? What are these caracterflaws that all women have?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/19 03:52 PM
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I've dated past 35 and it was easy and I got choose from many candidates and I didn't have to have any casual sex. I dated for a month or two, found someone and got married after a year and had a baby. Will have another baby as well. Edit: I didn't need a provider (I work) and I wasn't the one proposing.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/19 06:33 AM
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You seem to think that child is just a punishment for women for having sex, but child actually is a human being that deserves to be born wanted, loved and to parents that have enough means to let that child thrive.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/19 07:11 AM
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Beautiful and mean women. There are plenty of beautiful and nice women and even average and nice are more popular.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/19 07:17 PM
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Well, I'm older than you and I have seen many interactions and relations in life so yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/19 05:06 AM
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I'm not speaking about you or other shallow sociopaths, I was speaking about majority of people. Even men avoid beautiful but venomous women.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/19 05:03 AM
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Just exist. There are always men around to offer marriage. Men want to feel loved, respected, desired and they want to feel like home, so if you give them that they'll be happy. (Applies in Europe at least)
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/19 06:29 PM
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I see you ment to say unrespectfully. HOW am I attracted to those men if I see them as annoying and avoid them? Is it because I'm not "really" a woman or what?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/19 06:53 AM
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It still doesn't make sense. Looks can't wipe off horrible personality so annoying or even scary man would be avoided even if they look good. If women don't know that they should be attracted to those men and thus avoid them, then again, HOW, does it do anything for evolution?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/19 06:44 AM
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I don't know if you just don't want to answer or you really don't understand my question. If women don't notice that attraction or act like they are attracted then HOW does it do anything for evolution? Women think that they dislike annoying people and avoid them when men know that their avoidance is really attraction.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/19 06:26 AM
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Still doesn't explaine women are both attracted to that, yet don't want to be around people like that? I thought attraction ment that you like people you are attracted to and seek their company and want to have closer relations with them?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/19 06:03 AM
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What are these jerky qualities that someone would like? Why would people like someone who is abrasive, arrogant or unfair for example?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/19 04:51 AM
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What does bitchiness in this context mean? Most women (humans) would not want to be mean to anyone so if all women are bitchy how are they being bitchy? Is it standing up for yourself or expecting people to keep their promises?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/19 04:49 AM
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What about the majority of couples? People who have sex couple of times a week and both enjoy and initiate?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/19 04:11 AM
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I really don't know how to define if someone is bad/bitchy or if they are nice because most people I've met in my life have both bad and good in them. Actual psycopaths or narcissists are minority and they are not always good looking.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/19 07:01 PM
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Ok then, everyone I have talked about men's height and dating have lied about it. Why would they do that?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/19 09:58 PM
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Why do you hate me? Why do you think I'm horrible and worthless? You twist my words and treat me like I'm an imbecile.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/19 04:37 PM
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Me neither, I've never met anyone in real that would make a height a requirement or even important preference. I have a feeling that it's more of an american thing really?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/19 04:03 PM
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Maybe some women actually believe men who tell them that they are beautiful and then think that men have varied taste? All men tell all women that they are beautiful if woman asks that but only anonymously or behind their backs tell the truth.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/19 10:42 AM
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Are you mean or stupid? You make me feel both enraged and depressed.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/19 09:21 AM
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Women have always had feminist beliefs, before they have just been to scared to say them aloud. Men say horrible and untrue things about women and women know that those things aren't true. Of course they stop believing that they are not equally worthy.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/19 07:34 PM
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Thank you for your completely useless, condescending and sarcastic answer. It is always a pleasure to be treated like an idiot.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/19 03:34 AM
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I tried to understand the logic of previous responder who said that women should do all the chores because (in his opinion) they do nothingif they live alone. Why do you attack me personally and try to make it about me and not about people in general as I intended? Why do you make false accusations about me?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/19 07:09 PM
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I am a woman so I think women deserve help.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/19 06:11 PM
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I don't have expectations or issues about happiness, I really just wanted to know why people think like that? If my husband thought that way, I would ask him, but he doesn't hold that view. You are very condescending and disrespectful towards me.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/19 05:12 PM
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Tell me, please, IF you don't think that women should do all the chores, then WHY did you answer a question directed to people who think like that?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/19 05:08 PM
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Do you really think it's that easy when there's a whole family? Husband, wife and two or three kids? I really need you to come over and teach me how to do those things in a couple of minutes.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/19 04:44 PM
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Discussion is absurd because I asked IF someone thinks that way, WHY do you think that way and then dozens of people answer that they don't think that way. Only handful of people have actually responded in what I asked. Other answers are pretty pointless, don't you think? It's like trying to ask people why they are dogowners and then getting answers from people telling that they are not dogowners, but have a cat/guinea pig/goldfish instead.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/19 04:31 PM
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How much are there men's chores in modern life? If you live in apartment there's nothing and in house there's snow plowing and lawn mowing, but not much else.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/19 04:25 PM
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Point was that if women didn't do those chores, their husbands would divorce them.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/19 03:19 PM
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I am not dating anyone and why are you being so hostile and belittling towards me?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/19 02:03 PM
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Not arguing, asking. I asked that IF you believe that women should do all chores even when both work and provide equally, WHY do you think that way? I've gotten many pointless answers saying that they don't think like that. Please, if you think like that, then answer. I have gotten some answers about how that is the natural order of things and that chores suit women more because they consider women less intelligent.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/19 02:00 PM
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Point being that if married women would do same amount of work than single or divorced moms then they would very soon become divorced moms.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/19 01:30 PM
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Please apologize for accusation of downvoting. I have not done that.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/19 12:56 PM
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Most women I know do those things and their husbands won't even notice.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/19 12:17 PM
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So I'm lying, most of my friends are lying and my relatives are lying? For example, I have never seen a man cook unless they are single.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/19 12:15 PM
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Women need just as much, but men don't want women to sleep. They want you to keep them company until they fall asleep, then you need to get back to cleaning and laundry and you need to wake up before they do so that their coffee and their breakfast is ready when they wake up.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/19 12:10 PM
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Squalor? Are you sure your expectations are reasonable? Cooking, groceries, taking out trash, doing dishes and cleaning the kitchen daily, vacuuming couple of times a week, scrubbing toilet and bathrooms couple of times a week and changing sheets and towels once a week. Of course there are some deep cleaning things to do as well, but regular stuff.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/19 12:06 PM
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Men sleep that much. Or at least they have a chance to do that if they want to.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/19 12:00 PM
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I know that it is that way, I'm not arguing that, I'm asking WHY it is that way?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/19 11:57 AM
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For example, they have their own accounts and then a joint account for living expenses, cars, utilities, holidays together, groceries, eating out etc. And if both put same amount of money in joint account each month. Then might be that she takes a holiday Europe and he goes to Japan or Florida if they use their own money.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/19 11:55 AM
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Many people live in apartment buildings so there aren't a lot of outside chores. Question was that IF both work equally and provide equally and you think that women should still do all chores, why do you think that?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/19 11:46 AM
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No, that's society and men's expectations. If your wife said that they need help with chores wouldn't you start looking for a second wife or replacement for your current wife?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/19 11:43 AM
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I make sandwiches for my husband twice a day. I don't "provide" sex, but I agree enthusiastically every time he suggests.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/19 11:32 AM
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That still doesn't answer my question. IF you believe that women should, under any circumstances, do all chores, WHY do you think that?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/19 11:30 AM
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Well how are they then? Both go to work in the morning, come back in the afternoon. She starts doing chores and he relaxes. Do you think clothes clean and fold themselves, fridge gets full automatically, dinner cooks itself, dust disappears from floors and selves and your hot morning cup of coffee awaits for you automatically when you wake up?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/19 11:26 AM
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Anywhere? But you might have to take one your own age.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/19 11:20 AM
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First honest answer. Not a nice one or one that any woman would agree with, but honest.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/19 11:05 AM
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Yet, men are first to complain if they see a dirty cup at the counter or a dustbunny in the corner...
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/19 11:01 AM
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They pay everything equally so that extra disposable income releases him from chores? I am not disagreeing with you, just checked that I understood correctly?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/19 10:59 AM
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Of course they cook, clean and do laundry if they are single. My question was that why can't they do even some chores when they are married.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/19 10:56 AM
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Yes, I used an example to demonstrate and to define my question. Men who think that it is always womans duty to do all chores, even when both work equally, why do you think that? I hope this made my question clear enough to answer?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/19 10:54 AM
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But SaggyNaggy would get up early to make you breakfast on your demand or start doing slow-cooked roast at 3am because you asked for it and she leaves office at 5pm and you want dinner at 6pm.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/19 10:51 AM
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Well, I would you use those exact words if my husband would try to do chores and almost all women I know tell their husbands that they really, really like doing chores and want them done in a certain way. No one really likes or really cares how it's done. It's just said to please the husband.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/19 10:45 AM
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My point was that why should she do all chores if everything else is equal? I do know that there are people who work different hours, but if you could read my original question and answer that it would help me understand that logic.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/19 10:41 AM
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Yes, that was my question. Nice that you repeated that, but answer would also be nice. WHY does he make her iron his shirt?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/19 10:35 AM
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Your situation is not very typical since you cook, clean and do other stuff. I thought more like waking up earlier to get breakfast ready for him, or starting dinner preparations before work because a special dish is requested or ironing work shirts... stuff like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/19 10:08 AM
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I'm talking in the context of heterosexual marriages here.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/19 09:56 AM
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So again I ask, why women should do all chores in a relationship? As punishment because they didn't do thema earlier? I'm just trying to understand your logic here. Roommates should obviously clean kitchen daily, vacuum couple times a week and scrub bathroom regularly. More than that would need communication.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/19 09:55 AM
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How about chores that are done only because he needs them to be done? And I always wonder how men really think that women don't need 8 hours of sleep.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/19 09:43 AM
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So... it would be to teach them how to do chores or? Also, I think that women are not responsible for their roommates, only their partners.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/19 09:36 AM
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Did you notice my point that if expenses are divided equally? Obviously the person who has bigger salary is still more valuable as a person, but they contribute equally in family budget. And I also pointed out that given that they have same amount of free time. Your point would then be that men actually do chores, but secretly without women noticing that and because women should have more energy.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/19 09:34 AM
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It is a question, not argument. I'm just asking for a reason why it is like that. Edit: for example, both are tired and just when their about go to sleep he realizes that his shirt isn't ironed. He goes to sleep and she has to get up to iron the shirt.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/19 09:24 AM
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Or she just tells you that she likes doing chores because she knows that then you wouldn't feel guilty when she does those chores. Woman are taught to always profusely say no when men offer to help around the house. They'll say they like doing them, or that it is really not that tiring or that they will do it faster by themselves. Of course, woman would be overjoyed if men would actually do chores. They could sleep more, have a hobby or spend more quality time with together with their husbands.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/19 09:22 AM
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You said that no woman works or pays for anything and yet everyone I know works full hours and pays their fair share. I just can't understand that how do you think women live if they don't earn their money by working? Either they work and earn money or they steal or cheat to get money, which is it?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/19 03:05 AM
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Women give BJs because they want to and enjoy sex with their spouse, don't confuse duty and fun.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/19 02:47 AM
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Women don't pay half of anything. Women don't work eight hours a day, on average. You are still wrong on every point. Thanks for breaking PPD rules to downvote me, though. That was your answer when I said that women do work and they do pay their share of living.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/19 02:45 AM
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Women don't have time to try slave men nowadays. Most women work 40 hours a week and do all "inside" chores and grocery shopping. Men also never consider how little women sleep since they have to stay up late and wake up early.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/19 02:17 AM
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You said that women don't work and they don't pay their share. How do you imagine that women live then? If you aren't thinking that they live off their husbands? And I'm talking about average people here that need two incomes. But, then again, you accused me of downvoting when I had not done that, so maybe it doesn't matter what I say.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/19 01:51 AM
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You said that I said all men are like that when I said that for example those men who are not considered handsome by manosphere are loved. Most men are, taller, shorter, thinner, bulkier. You chose to misunderstand me on purpose. I could also argue that you calling me manipulative, lazy and parasitc is personal. However, I do know that it is not violation of sub rules. I tried to explain that women love, work and take care of their families and do that voluntarily.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/19 01:34 AM
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Too late when a child is born already. They deserve to be loved.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/19 06:56 PM
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Absent father is not punishing that woman, he is punishing a child that deserves fathers love and care. Both are equally responsible. IMO, there's no 100% effective birth control so one should only have sex with a person they could raise a child with.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/19 06:37 PM
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Also, if you think women don't work, but receive money from their husbands then problem could be your society and not your "fact" about women being lazy and manipulative subhumans.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/19 01:22 PM
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Where did I say that finnish men are like that? I just said that there are men like that everywhere that are genuinely loved by their wives. Your misogyny just makes it impossible for you to consider women as humans.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/19 01:19 PM
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Well, people are still open to find a suitable mate in their 30's or 40's. When you start a relationship you can't know if it is permanent or not. No one starts a relationship thinking that they will get married and settle down just because they are at certain age. Some find true love at 20, some at 30 and some never.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/19 07:56 AM
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https://thl.fi/fi/web/sukupuolten-tasa-arvo/tyo/tyollisyys-ja-tyottomyys Statistic shows that 69% of women over 15 work, 8,4 % are unemployed and rest are students or on maternity leave. And mothers of underage kids are working more, 80% of mothers of small children work and 90% of mothers of schoolchildren work. Part-time work is rare in Nordic countries.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/19 05:59 AM
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Where women don't work eight hours a day? Students might work part-time, but they are usually not married either. If women don't spend their salary to support their family then what happens with that money? Also, how could the husband support whole family alone? Speaking of middle class without inheritage.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/19 05:49 AM
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Which part isn't true? Where do you think women go for eight hours a day? How are they able to pay half of mortgage, utilities, groceries, daycare etc if they don't work? Maternity leave is usually about a year or year and half and most of that is paid.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/19 05:16 AM
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Those are the rule. Most women work full time and make approximately the same as their husbands and many men are below 6 feet (weird american height thing) and more men than women are overweight.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/19 04:51 AM
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Ok, so tell me why woman would be in a relationship someone making same amount of money and being quite short, balding and a little chubby? I'd say the answer is love and desire, but I guess you have different opinion.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/19 04:22 AM
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So because women expect honesty, companionship and valuing each other you would be scared to enter the relationship? Wouldn't those in their twenties also deserve that? Especially since they are more valuable people.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/19 03:53 AM
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Doesn't feel nice, does it. Just shows that you have no scientific data to back up your claims about infertility. I guess you just looked at someone else's comments about looking good and decided that we are a hivemind and you can lump them together. Still waiting for that scientific evidence that shows how birth control is not needed for women over 30 or 35. That was the point of my original comment anyway. I wish you the worst in life, for you to fall in love and having happy marriage and wond…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/19 03:39 AM
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I never said anything about desirability, so stop putting words in my mouth. I just said that it is risky to say that women over 30 or 35 are infertile because that can lead to unwanted pregnancies. You kept going on and on how old women can't have sex due to ugliness and even if they would have they wouldn't get pregnant. I gave you statistical evidence how thousands of women (in population of 5 million) give birth to normal babies past the age of 35. It's ok to hate old and ugly people, but it…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/19 03:26 AM
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You do understand that I have healthy kids and have gotten pregnant very, very easily even after 35 and so have many, many other women. Are you suggesting that most kids born to women over 35 are abnormal? What's your agenda? Why are you discouraging having kids if people want to do that? Women have always had kids past 35 or 40, why would our generation be any different? Ok, if you would get to decide and no woman past 30 would marry or have kids, what would be they allowed to do?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/19 10:38 AM
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Yes, fertility will be gone, but it happens later than you think. A woman at age 30 can still have 4-5 kids. Also, it's not like you need to be top athlete to take care of a baby or a toddler. Most of the times they wake up only few times a night, you feed them and go back to sleep. Any woman can do that, it's not like 30 or 40 something is an elderly person.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/19 08:35 AM
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Why would someone have less energy? Overweight or out of shape people yes, but normally that's not the case. Women are usually more energetic than men anyway. It just checked the statistics of my country and average age for giving birth was over 30 and of all the women giving birth about 25 % were over 35. Looks might be something that some men have preference over, but fertility does not disappear at 30. Or would you take the risk and have sex with someone at that age without bc? (With blindfol…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/19 06:23 AM
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Most women over 30 are fertile. Are you saying that someone over 35 wouldn't need birth control if they didn't want children?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/19 05:59 AM
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You do understand that it can be risky to think that women over 35 aren't fertile? Just saying because I'm forty soon, still lactating my third child and pregnant again with number four... Good for us married folks, but could be a bit of a shock for someone dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/19 05:20 AM
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You just missed my point completely. On purpose.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/19 06:48 AM
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Well, dude, women should avoid getting an infection in uterus after giving birth. Vagina doesn't need to heal for more than couple of days, unless there are tears or stiches. I've had sex one week after giving birth and that was normal. Anyway, if you were suppose to just let your vagina rest postpartum, then why hospital recommends starting kegels 24hrs postpartum?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/19 11:06 PM
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I can't tell if you're a troll or just an ignorant man, but I know you're not a woman. Do you really think soreness, chafing, inflammation, yeast infections or UTIs are common? Even after "marathons" they are very, very rare, most women never experience those. I guess pretty women belong in harems and us uglies can have one active partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/19 10:51 PM
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If you speak for all women then I guess I'm not woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/19 07:42 AM
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Isn't friendzoning shitty for men and women? I always get friendzoned and it kind of feels like I am only a mind and my body is just a disgusting shell of my appealing personality.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/16 05:52 AM
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People are people, for many of us sex and relationships are in some way based on primal urges and attraction and red pill can be applied in those cases. It works in many cases, but then there are demisexuals and sapiosexuals and sometimes strong connections between people that make their relationships break the rule so to speak... For me personally age, money or power have never been attractive, but I do like this energy or glow some men have and it might be alpha trait, idk... In general I find…
/r/TheRedPill28/09/16 05:21 AM
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Curiosity towards human nature, trying to understand men better, trying to understand my own feelings better. And I have couple of friends that either have read the red pill theory or are naturally living it and they are both very caring and loving people who respect women even though they see the sexual and relationship game aspect in their relations.
/r/TheRedPill27/09/16 02:43 PM
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That's a great point, I think that mentally and emotionally age (or gender) doesn't really affect relationships since most people have friends of all ages. I have a 34-year old friend who left his wife and is seeing a 22 year-old woman now. I'm an old, ugly hag obviously but I'm happy for them because they're a great match.
/r/TheRedPill27/09/16 08:15 AM
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Fun fact, most people accused of witchcraft in Finland (part of Sweden at the time) were men.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/16 10:25 AM
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I don't hate TRP and I certainly understand that we as humans are animals and I see my own lustful, animal side as well, but I sometimes really disagree with some points of TRP. My main reason to disagree is that I consider myself as a woman and I know that some things that are suppose to work according to TRP theory just wouldn't work with me.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/16 08:11 AM
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Could that thinking be behind differences in Europe and USA? Us European women don't need to worry about man's social status or finances because we work and we continue working even when we are married and have children because we have great daycare and school system. We can choose a man that looks good to us (not same criteria what men use to evaluate how attractive men are) and who is also a trustworthy and emotionally close to us.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/16 05:04 AM
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Europe would do ok as well, we have female engineers and people in trades.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/16 10:37 AM
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LTR where you won't have to get married and you can co-habit or each of you can keep your own apartment or house. You can also have an open relationship or spice things up with FFM threesome at times. That might not be perfect, but enjoyable, loving and trusting relationship anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/16 11:28 AM
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I'm probably here because I want to understand myself better. I have developed strangely strong and new kind of crush to someone I know is above me in everything and it has made me think why I feel that way. I guess I can try to understand all kinds of (heterosexual) relationships better if I hear opinions from those who find happiness in equality and from those who are not equal and from those that are equal but don't want to be.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/16 10:19 AM
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That's stupid, splitting the bill is a good thing. Why would man pay? You are (hopefully) both enjoying each others company so both pay their own meal/movie/whatever and focus on getting to know each other.
/r/TheRedPill15/02/16 12:24 PM
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Of course there is always both caring and erotic in love. I desire man I love even if he has been needing a shoulder to cry on or someone to listen to his worries. I don't think it is pity, more like empathy, trying to think of ways to ease his life and also feeling close to him when he shows his emotions and of course there is a lot of respect towards him.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/16 08:13 AM
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It would be nice to think that not everything is about sex, but it really seems to be. I can confess that it is the thing that crosses my mind more often than other pursuits in life and it is the thing that makes you saddest, most vulnerable and it is the thing where confidence is easily lost without success. If I knew for certain that I would never have sex again in my life with someone I want, I wouldn't bother with anything after that.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/16 06:31 AM
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I think here all answers are flawed if people think that all satisfying relationships are similar in dynamics. I would want to be treated as equal if I'm in relationship with my equal and I would like to treated as inferior in I'm in relationship with someone who is better than me. Submitting to your equal or trying to pretend equality with a better person would lead to failure.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/16 02:47 AM
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No one needs to do favors for me or ask me what I need, but to be trustworthy, show interest in me, hang out and not behave in bad boy manner. No binge drinking, no speeding, no aggressive behavior, no name calling towards me or any kind of illegal activities in general. And I would love if the nice guy would be show his sexual desires to me. All in all, be a human being that is interested in me as a person and as a sexual being.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/16 02:30 AM
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If all woman are alike then yes, I have evidence because I am female and like guys that are nice. I don't play games or pretend anything but I know many who do that. If women are all individual then I only have evidence on myself and my closest friends.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/16 06:23 PM
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OK, That must have felt weird, but I would put that down to girl having some issues rather than shaming male sexuality. I actually have one friend that would do that type of thing and she has a very strange view of sexuality and relationships in general. Her motives in this behavior is not so much shaming male sexuality, but making it known that she feels superior to other females. It seems that I luckily have never acted that way then. I know how rejection feels like so if I ever end up in that…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/16 04:40 PM
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I find that quite difficult to believe, but I did recently saw a documentary about sexual harassment on campuses in USA and to me it seemed a little over-reacting and hysterical, so things can be radically different in USA.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/16 04:17 PM
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Ok, Let me rephrase, in which way male sexuality is shamed and who does that? For example, have I as a woman done that without realizing that I'm acting that way?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/16 04:15 PM
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It bothers me when you say that male sexuality is dirty or something and therefore not accepted. Who thinks or says that? (If it is a reference to age of consent being too high then that is an issue that doesn't really bother all heterosexual males.) Secondly, female sexuality is also pretty primal and wild and if it is expressed freely it will also end up in slutshaming. A lot of this nice guy- syndrome has to do with shame over sexuality on both sides. Girls are hesitant to show their desires …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/16 02:43 PM
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I've met two truly (in my opinion) alpha males in my life and the best way I can describe how they differ from others is positive strength, almost like sunshine. They don't need to be aggressive or try to dominate, others will want to be submissive. If I would have to pinpoint common traits in true alphas I would say intelligence, positive outlook on life, calmness and resilient strength, being the bigger person in conflict situations without undermining their authority.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/16 09:13 AM
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Wouldn't it work better for you if you could persuade women not to masturbate so that they would get extremely horny?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/16 08:54 AM
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I thought that every woman orgasms in their sleep and especially if they don't while they are awake. On the subject itself, I see no point in stopping masturbation or watching porn unless it is really excessive or has become an addiction.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/16 08:49 AM
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I don't think it is about expectations rather than just being attracted to someone. I think I've been "behind The Wall" all my life in sense that I have always fallen for men above my own level and I just haven't felt attraction to those on my level. Seems like some people think that women are able to choose who they fall for but unfortunately that isn't so.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/16 09:06 AM
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That's the weakness of the theory of SMV. How can I know am I average woman or below that? If everyone has different idea of average then someone can be 10 or 1 depending on who is valuating them? I can believe that all men have similar preference but women have more variation in their taste in in men.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/16 12:00 PM
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Where do I find the official chart of measuring looks? Is there a big leap from 5 to 6 for example?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/16 07:02 AM
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I would absolutely desire and/or love a man like that, but I wouldn't need dates or gifts.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/16 06:47 AM
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I've been thinking a lot about these theories about SMV and basis of these theories, evolutionary psychology and such. Many times I wonder how do scientists measure attraction and how it forms, especially in women. About the "Nice Guy" thing, I've only seen one example of those in real life and I was wondering if it comes down to being a bad liar. People might sense that he is not truthful and that would make him appear repulsive in subconscious level, maybe?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/16 05:56 AM
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No, I think women are critical enough, but I find it surprising that men aren't more critical. They could afford to be if they are nice, kind men.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/16 03:08 PM
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Not male models but guys who look like they are happy, average height, normal weight, cute face and seem to have interesting job/studies/hobbies. I've actually dated male model once, regular guy but really shy so I don't have a thing for them.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/16 03:00 PM
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By women having high standards? Do you mean that we as women tend to be overcritical to ourselves and less critical towards men?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/16 02:45 PM
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Of course it is odd. Why would a really great guy show interest in me? It probably is some kind of cruel joke on me or something, idk.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/16 01:18 PM
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I don't know where you use Tinder, but I get matched with men I would estimate as 8-9 and I am 3 at best. They aren't even bots because I've talked to them and even met IRL. I will never understand what is the reason, unless they literally swipe right for every woman and start talking to every match.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/16 12:36 PM
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I agree with the idea that in a relationship with dominant man I am submissive to him and look up to him, but I am not beneath every male in in the world. I might not have a stellar career but I know women who have a career or are otherwise great in their field of expertise and they behave in different manner at home and at public.
/r/TheRedPill26/01/16 05:54 AM
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I'm not sure if you are being sarcastic or not..? If you aren't then maybe you shouldn't confuse relationship dynamics with society in general.
/r/TheRedPill26/01/16 03:27 AM
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I feel like if I give myself or I show submission to anyone else, especially to someone who is not in my eyes in the same level than the man I have "chosen" it would be sort of demeaning to him. To go all in... I will do whatever he allows me to do. That is why I put "chosen" in quotation marks because it was just an epiphany that he just happens to be the one to hold keys to my heart and lust.
/r/TheRedPill25/01/16 03:58 PM
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I actually have to agree with you on this one. I am not usually ready to be submissive or obey every man just because they are men but my man is my sun when I can only be the moon reflecting his shine and he is the lion and I am the jungle that is all his and his alone. I do admit that it gives pleasure to be caring and submissive to someone who feels like he is your positive opposite that completes you.
/r/TheRedPill25/01/16 01:15 PM
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