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Proof please.
/r/MensRights25/03/13 04:36 PM
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Please provide links documenting this.
/r/MensRights25/03/13 04:34 PM
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Why are you confused? I am willing to try and debate with you since you are polite. I may or may not be correct about my standpoint, but I feel that the author is biased towards the victim in the Steubenville case in that she seems to place at least a portion of the blame on the victim. Was it a bad idea to get drunk at a party while being underaged? Sure. Does that mean it is her fault she was raped, even in the slightest? No. How is she supposed to practice "enthusiastic consent", which is the…
/r/MensRights25/03/13 03:03 PM
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Which is why I will also chalk it up to bad writing. She made some good points at first, but soured it with that. I couldn't finish the article.
/r/MensRights25/03/13 02:59 PM
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These two words would make her intentions clear. However, she sadly did not, thus leaving it open for interpretation.
/r/MensRights25/03/13 02:54 PM
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Didn't get far enough into the article due to bad writing. Closed browser after that sentence.
/r/MensRights25/03/13 02:53 PM
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She should clearly state her intentions, which she does not. Upon further reading, I came across this. It’s important to individually adopt the practice of enthusiastic consent and then teach it to others so it can become a standard value. To do so would be to render what happened in the Steubenville trial impossible. This shows that the author may consider what happened in Steubenville to be bad decision making on the victims part.
/r/MensRights25/03/13 02:52 PM
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Maybe. It turned me off the article though. I went through and scanned a little more. It’s important to individually adopt the practice of enthusiastic consent and then teach it to others so it can become a standard value. To do so would be to render what happened in the Steubenville trial impossible. I still find this as biased. She seems place blame on the victim.
/r/MensRights25/03/13 02:50 PM
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What she wrote and what others infer are two very different things. If she wants her readers to derive what you have stated, then supporting sentences are needed. It is too distastefully ambiguous.
/r/MensRights25/03/13 02:47 PM
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She should clearly state that, and it is very unfortunate that she does not. It leaves a very distasteful ambiguity about it.
/r/MensRights25/03/13 02:46 PM
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Is that something the defense used? If so, it may have been a smear tactic. What about the fact that she was dumped on her front lawn unconscious? What about the fact that there is a 12 minute video talking ahout how "dead" and "raped" she is, by no other than one of the accused?
/r/MensRights25/03/13 02:44 PM
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...Not giving, or being able to give, consent and regretting consent given are two different things. Women and girls should be told they can chart their own courses. If they don’t take control of their own erotic development early, they may never take control — like the women I knew in college who blamed alcohol or drugs for their own sexual adventures or misadventures, or the adult women I know who are still using sex to “get” and “keep” men. She equates them by lumping them in together, and fo…
/r/MensRights25/03/13 02:37 PM
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Yes because being unconcious and raped are totally the same thing as making a bad decision like the author did. /s
/r/MensRights25/03/13 02:18 PM
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Sure. Sorry about that! The idea that what happened in Steubenville, with Natalia on “Girls,” and with me in the park 30 years ago are all rape is ridiculous.
/r/MensRights25/03/13 02:13 PM
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I stopped reading after the point where she equated what happened in Steubenville to poor decisions she made when she was younger. That girl in Steubenville was raped, cut and dry. She makes a few good points, but she downplays the suffering that girl went/is going through.
/r/MensRights25/03/13 01:40 PM
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Did you just equate a child who was roofied to a drunken escapade of yours? Night and day, my friend.
/r/MensRights14/03/13 09:13 PM
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There is a 12 minute video of one of the rapists going on and on about how the girl is dead and how she was raped, making into a sick joke. The girl was roofied. And thus unconscious as she was assaulted multiple times. There are photos of her being transported about by her hands and feet. Even if she "enthusiastically agreed" to have sex with any one of those boys, that goes out the window once she goes unconscious. Rape is rape is rape.
/r/MensRights14/03/13 03:49 PM
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I noticed that there are Japanese subtitles at the bottom. Did you get this image from google, or are you in Japan? :).
/r/MensRights08/03/13 12:20 PM
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So you want him to do research for you so that you may cite what he said in arguments with feminists? If you like the claims he made, then do the research yourself with google. Don't be lazy.
/r/MensRights07/03/13 05:40 AM
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...Or it may be a troll, and this person is asking for verification before proceeding to feed a potential troll. People need to stop down-voting others who are initially skeptical.
/r/MensRights19/02/13 07:36 AM
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She needs feminism because she believes feminism supports her backwards way of thinking. In her mind, any man automatically=rapist, so she needs to protect herself from all men. However, she also feels that she should not have to feel that way, thus meaning she might not need feminism as much as she thinks she does.
/r/MensRights15/02/13 07:48 AM
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So this person is a troll because they possess an opinion opposite of yours, and took the time to provide support for their opinion as well? You should not cherry-pick your supporting statements for your opinions, and then get angry when people call you out on it.
/r/MensRights30/01/13 04:50 AM
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Reaching out for help and deciding you are beyond help/you want to kill yourself are polar opposites. Do not compare yourself to the OP if you really think you share the same first hand point of view, because you do not. His post in no way even hints at feeling desperate enough to commit suicide.
/r/MensRights01/01/13 12:19 AM
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To summarize your actions, you have piggybacked off a post about rape, making it about yourself and your self-proclaimed "saga" about wanting to kill yourself but not quite being able to do it. You do this without explaining the relevance to the OP's post, and leave it as a stand-alone shining example of shit you should not post in a thread where someone is reaching out to others in an attempt to heal. This can be construed as: You are an attention whore and want others to pay attention to you a…
/r/MensRights28/12/12 10:09 AM
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Quit trying to turn a murder case from before the 1950s into a modern men's rights issue about abortion. I don't even know where to begin on why this is a bad idea.
/r/MensRights23/09/12 08:15 AM
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The men received lesser sentences, and she was disposing of unwanted children before abortion had been legalized in Japan. It is unfortunate and definitely very dark, but those were different times. I fail to see why this is a mens rights issue. EDIT: Aftermath This incident is regarded as the principal reason the Japanese Government began to consider the legalisation of abortion in Japan.[9][10] One of the reasons this incident was thought to have occurred was as the result of an increase in th…
/r/MensRights22/09/12 03:02 PM
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i am referring to the other person I commented on. You are fine, I was just pointing out you were defending someone being a dick by calling me s dick :)
/r/MensRights31/07/12 02:52 AM
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Oh really? Meanwhile, the Japanese women are No. 3 in the world. The Japanese men are ranked 20th. The last time they won an Olympic medal was at the 1968 Games. And it was bronze. In order for women to be treated equally, they literally need to win the gold. Please check the validity of things you say before you say them. The Japanese women's soccer team is currently in the international spotlight for their capabilities and are contenders for a gold medal in the Olympics, yet are still not trea…
/r/MensRights30/07/12 10:48 AM
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Replying to a crass comment in a crass way makes me a dick?
/r/MensRights30/07/12 08:56 AM
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Obviously not you, but you should as this deals with an issue of equality. Would it raise your heckles if it was the other way around? Yes? Thought so.
/r/MensRights30/07/12 07:02 AM
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Change has to start somewhere. Do not even get me started on the mayor of Tokyo, he is racist, sexist, etc etc etc.
/r/MensRights30/07/12 06:57 AM
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Please sign this petition to let Japan know this is utter bullshit. http://chn.ge/T0rktr?utm_source=action_alert&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=8319&alert_id=HuxiVaVOwF_vbNoizablk
/r/MensRights30/07/12 06:34 AM
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I am embarrassed for the head of Japanese soccer.
/r/MensRights30/07/12 06:28 AM
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I think that the man prioritizing his own safety is fine, but if I were that woman I would definitely not marry him, since he will not be there for the family when they need him the most. It is not about being a man, it is about not abandoning his family in favor of self-preservation. If the woman had abandoned her kids and then decided to propose to the man, she would receive the same sort of criticism. This man is not ready to be responsible for a family, so that is the only thing I could poss…
/r/MensRights28/07/12 03:42 AM
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lmao
/r/MensRights26/07/12 04:09 PM
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What was he in? His birthday suit? :D Jkjk probably a jeans and tshirt or something.
/r/MensRights26/07/12 03:56 PM
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Well, due to the fact that he was not trolling around the park in a santa suit but in regular clothing, and based off the fact that he was targeted due to his natural features. This seems pretty discriminatory to me. EDIT: http://www.9news.com/news/article/279725/328/Santa-Claus-reportedly-kicked-out-of-Disney-World
/r/MensRights26/07/12 03:51 PM
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'I never had a red suit on, I never wore a hat, I didn't have fur boots on, but that doesn't make Santa,' Mr Tolbert told the station. 'The face and the persona and the heart is what makes a Santa. They're looking at my face and looking at my features.'
/r/MensRights26/07/12 03:48 PM
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Because it involves a negative reaction based on the interactions between children and a male. Odds are is he was probably singled out because he is a male that children seemed attracted to, and that made people uncomfortable; not the fact that he looked like santa minus the costume.
/r/MensRights26/07/12 03:15 PM
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Ah you are a troll :).
/r/MensRights26/07/12 12:19 PM
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This is not a case of looking like a disney character, it is a story about a guy in normal clothing going on vacation and being told his beard, face, and demeanor need to change or he is going to get kicked out of the park even though he is not intoxicated, nor is he harming children. Why is this a non-issue for you?
/r/MensRights26/07/12 12:14 PM
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So he has to be a dick to children because he looks too much like santa. Repeatedly. All day. Several times a day. Because he is a male and kids keep approaching him.
/r/MensRights26/07/12 11:48 AM
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He was wearing normal clothing and was on vacation. His face was too santa-like for the park's taste. Read the article carefully.
/r/MensRights26/07/12 11:27 AM
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Okay, this is ridiculous.
/r/MensRights26/07/12 08:58 AM
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I am not interested in one group besting out over the other. I really just want for everyone to be treated fairly, and judged not by their gender/sexual orientation/political leadings etc. etc., but by who they are as an individual. This may be hard to get at because the core of a human being is buried heavily behind many labels assigned to them by society. It is not about getting the upper hand, but lending a helping hand to promote humanity, in my opinion. I guess I do not really get along wit…
/r/MensRights25/07/12 12:58 AM
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Fair enough. I think the main point I was trying to make is that others were trying to use this as fodder for gender debates just because the people who these men saved just so happened to be women. It does not necessarily mean that these men felt societally obligated to jump in front of those bullets, but many are painting it out that way. It really seems unfair to those men to question their motivation in such a black and white manner, that is all :). Maybe I should have reworded my original p…
/r/MensRights25/07/12 12:54 AM
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I have tried. People keep trying to tell me they know what I believe better than I do here. I consider myself a supporter of all rights movements, but that seems to get frowned upon here. EDIT: Also thanks for the new links, I shall check them out. GenderEgalitarian sounds awesome.
/r/MensRights25/07/12 12:26 AM
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Er, no. THE best possible outcome of the mens rights movement is that men actually gain equal legal rights to women, in ALL areas...no exceptions. Please reread what I wrote. One of the best possible outcomes would be for the Men's Rights movement, along with all other movements (gay rights, women's rights, childrens rights etc etc.) to reach an equilibrium so that people can cast aside labels and focus on developing as a species. I never said anything about the best possible outcome for Mensrig…
/r/MensRights25/07/12 12:21 AM
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Thank you for a well-thought out reply. I can see several of your points, but I am not sure why you would consider this to be misandry. I was generally just deeply saddened that certain individuals in this forum were saying that these men only made the sacrifices they did because of what they were and not who they were. In other words, others stated that these men acted on pre-determined programming and that their actions were not their own entirely. Gender is what is causing people to see it li…
/r/MensRights24/07/12 11:21 PM
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So saying that the acts of these men was based on what is between their legs and not by what is in their hearts is the best possible interpretation of this event? I find it to be the most insulting towards these individuals who sacrificed their lives for the ones they love. Heroism should not be a gender issue in that people, not men or women, make choices to make sacrifices based on what is in their hearts. I never said I was a supporter of Men's Rights, but I am not an adversary either; I supp…
/r/MensRights24/07/12 11:14 PM
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This, exactly this. People are cheapening the sacrifices made by others by doing so.
/r/MensRights24/07/12 01:36 PM
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It makes sense in that men were not the only ones to risk their lives in order to save another. The fact that the person who was saved by the brave young woman, is another woman, is irrelevant in that she risked her life in order to save her friend. That takes a lot of courage, and I am sure the woman would have done the same for a male friend. Why? Because she is looking at them as a person, and not at them through a lense of gender identity. It does not prove you wrong about societal expectati…
/r/MensRights24/07/12 01:34 PM
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Again it is utterly irrelevant that the person the girl saved was another woman. I am not going to waste my time hunting down another example to appease you since you seem to be missing my point entirely. I will try to restate it as clearly as possible for you: The Aurora shooting should not be turned into a political gender debate because gender did not play a role in the decisions those men made, or in the decision the woman made to save her friend. It was about making a sacrifice for the sake…
/r/MensRights24/07/12 01:30 PM
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You are amongst many Feminists who have done this, blaming Patriarchal men for their aggression and dominance while remaining silent on (if not actually opposing as you are) the disposability ingrained into men. Not a feminist, humanist. It is not a statistical fluke; can you name any example of a woman giving her life for man? Not off the top of my head, no. However, the fact that the person saved by this woman is another woman is irrelevant. I wanted to point out that there were other people a…
/r/MensRights24/07/12 10:05 AM
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I mean to say this case is not a good one to try and potray as a gender issue. It is the case of 3 individuals sacrificing themselves for those they care about, not an issue of "OH MY GOD THE SHOOTER IS SHOOTING AT A WOMAN, AM MAN SO MUST SHIELD!!!" I provided another example of woman doing the exact same thing in the exact same shooting to try and show that these acts of heroism were the acts of individuals and not brought about by societal expectations of their gender roles. This has nothing t…
/r/MensRights24/07/12 07:25 AM
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Says that heroism should be viewed on an individual basis, and has nothing to do with a person's gender. Thus, I provided another example of a female protecting her friend in the same shooting. The fact that people are trying to view this as a gender issue in the first place is a problem.
/r/MensRights24/07/12 07:21 AM
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Yes. In the same shooting, a female risked her life to save a friend. She didn't die, but she could have. It is the same sort of bravery that the men showed towards their loved ones.
/r/MensRights24/07/12 01:56 AM
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There's nothing wrong with criticism - even if it's directed at a woman. This has nothing to do with the criticism being directed at a woman. Of course there is nothing wrong with criticism if it is constructive. She clarified her thoughts and I accepted that. But here you come to rescue the damsel in distress from... nothing. Live your little hero fantasy elsewhere - preferably where you don't have to turn people into villains for it. I'm sorry, but I seemed to have missed the part where I was …
/r/MensRights23/07/12 11:52 AM
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Oh really? Charming. He sacrifices his life for you and your concern is having trouble dating other men. Because it sounds like you are criticizing the person here. I'll try to imagine where my mind would go: I'd probably fall into an abyss of regret and despair, wondering how I'm going to explain to her family why I survived and she didn't. And call me crazy, but you state this is what you would feel right after criticizing the person.
/r/MensRights23/07/12 01:53 AM
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Healthy minds do not automatically come to the worst possible conclusion when faced with a hypothetical situation. This person just happened to go with the more positive aspects and tried to wrap their mind around moving on after a life-altering event. The regret and despair that you think this person should automatically go to would be reality, but most people do not consider this until it actually smacks them in the face, give them a break.
/r/MensRights22/07/12 10:37 PM
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Stop trying to justify what he did and what you are doing. You fucked up by hitting her, deal with the consequences. Hitting another human being is never okay unless it is in self defense. This is not self defense. Stop retaliating against her in petty ways, and break off all contact with her. If she contacts you again, document it. Do not reply. Any communications from here on out should be through a lawyer. If you continue going the way you are going now, you are only giving her ammo for her a…
/r/MensRights16/07/12 06:55 AM
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No, she did not deserve it. Just like he did not deserve to be emotionally abused. The whole problem with this is that these 2 individuals are going to continue to cause each other grief in order to "get back" at the other in an endless cycle of hatred An eye for an eye leaves the whole world blind. They both need to remove their emotions from the equation, and work on healing and moving on with their lives. The problem I have with this post is that you are condoning abuse by saying the victim d…
/r/MensRights16/07/12 06:47 AM
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Please learn to read yourself, buddy. Both of these people are petty and immature. (taken from my above post). I also posted somwhere else in the thread. Both the OP and his ex are horrible, petty children who need to grow the fuck up. The point I am trying to make here is that abuse does not condone abuse. The OP as well as the ex in question are both at fault for being immature and irresponsible. The only contact either of these people should have with each other is through a lawyer. I am sorr…
/r/MensRights16/07/12 06:40 AM
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That does not give you the right to lay a finger on her. You need to be the adult and walk the fuck out. I am glad you did not hit her, but you should not have touched her either. Points for gaining control in the end, though. You should see a therapist about that urge to kill, though.
/r/MensRights16/07/12 06:23 AM
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Domestic abuse is not cool no matter what. She did not hit him, so he had NO RIGHT to hit her. He should have been the adult in the situation and walked away. Both of these people are petty and immature. I see you have been upvoted there. Let me fix that by at least one number.
/r/MensRights16/07/12 06:20 AM
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Ok so your response to the entire situation is to keep up the eye for an eye method when dealing with this situation. Step 1: She cheats on you retaliation: You hit her and claim you were emotionally abused because she tore into you for not sexually satisfying her. Step 2: In retaliation for you hitting her, she goes below the belt and attacks something you love, just like you attacked her. Retaliation: You do the exact same fucking thing by taking her brooch. Step 3: She charges the towing of t…
/r/MensRights16/07/12 06:15 AM
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The actions of the police force are not violent unless they choose to make them so. Why is arresting someone violent in your opinion? The actions of the police, again, are not violent due to the fact that they are taking preventative measures in order to ensure the safety and well-being of others. At this point in time, the man is a suspect and is not considered either guilty or innocent until otherwise proven so. Police have a job for a reason, and that reason is to maintain societal order. I'm…
/r/MensRights04/07/12 10:11 AM
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What is your definition of violence? Perhaps this is legally permissible violence or whatever other adjective you would like to attach, but it is most certainly violence and I think you would have some trouble trying to come up with an accepted definition of violence which excludes actions done by certain people because they are wearing the right costume. Violence is an act of force committed against another individual with the intent to harm. The role of the police in this instance is not viole…
/r/MensRights04/07/12 09:59 AM
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She, like the person ordering the murder, both 1) told someone something 2) which they knew would cause something to happen 3) for the purpose of causing that something to happen. What is the difference between the two? It is different in that you are trying to categorize police force as violence. Why does this matter? They are doing something violent. It matters because use of police force to arrest an individual can not be classified as violence. This is completely offtopic. Here, I am saying …
/r/MensRights04/07/12 09:40 AM
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She told a lie to people who she knew would commit violence on someone. Do you disagree with this? Yes, I do. Police doing their job and making arrests based upon available information does not equate violence. I asked this above, but are you suggesting that the police force have the ability to be accessories to violent crimes by doing their jobs and making arrests? "This argument only works when I agree with it. When this argument is used and contradicts my opinion in another area, the argument…
/r/MensRights04/07/12 02:27 AM
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The difference is that she did not commit the above crime. She filed a false police report. In your scenario, the violence comes from a private individual, and in the actual case, it may or may not have come from the police force. Are you suggesting that the police force have the ability to be accessories to violent crimes by doing their jobs and making arrests?
/r/MensRights04/07/12 02:22 AM
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You are an accessory, yes, but the crime you committed will still have been different from the person committing the actual murder. Will the punishment still be just as severe? Yes. Are you involved in the violent crime? Yes. Did you commit it? No, you committed a different crime.
/r/MensRights03/07/12 10:05 AM
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This can get a bit tricky, but I will state this: this scenario and that scenario are 2 different things. She did not commit a violent crime due to the fact that she did not bring violence down upon him. Rape is a bit different since it does not always encompass male rape, and some laws need to be rewritten. I stand by my claim that she did not commit a violent crime, though.
/r/MensRights03/07/12 10:04 AM
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Regardless of the man's innocence, the type of crime she accused him of and the type of crime she committed are on two very different levels. Was she wrong, and should she have been punished? Yes. Should she get 5+ years for lying? No. The amount of time is appropriate in that sense. You need to remove your emotions from the equation and look at it rationally: An individual falsely accuses another individual of committing a crime against them. If convicted of the accused crime, the accused party…
/r/MensRights03/07/12 09:04 AM
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Regardless of whether or not codified force was involved, her crime does not fall under the scope of violent crimes. It is closer to perjury.
/r/MensRights03/07/12 08:57 AM
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This does not entail that she committed a violent crime. Let's not compare apples to oranges.
/r/MensRights03/07/12 08:55 AM
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This fits the bill. I will see if my fiancee knows the link. EDIT: http://blog.livedoor.jp/kinisoku/archives/3387900.html I asked him, and he said the blogger is jokingly posting this, that he did not put a lot of thought into it? Anyways, not sure how helpful the original is, but the link is above :).
/r/MensRights30/04/12 02:31 PM
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so... link?
/r/MensRights30/04/12 09:34 AM
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Source? PROTIP: Including a photo link of the original (to prevent the original from gaining traffic ad revenue) would serve to make your point even stronger.
/r/MensRights30/04/12 06:01 AM
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I think we all know that the best course of action here is to a.) draw all the women in the comic strip from here on out with "unique" and "interesting" physical traits, such as pointy, mis-shapen boobs etc. or b.) ignore the above and just keep writing/drawing good comics. Haters are going to hate no matter what you do, so do what makes you and your fans happy.
/r/MensRights08/04/12 03:47 AM
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Not sure if...
/r/MensRights05/04/12 04:13 PM
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Am I the only one who thinks that maybe, just maybe, these jezebel trolls ran out of fodder, and decided to stage this as one eleborate yet shittily executed attempt at trolling MRAs in order to get fresh drama for their blog?
/r/MensRights05/04/12 10:53 AM
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Before everyone grabs the torches and pitchforks, consider the flipside. Here is one of the best comments posted by another individual: Why are people (and when I say people I include the reporter on this story) missing the bottom line here-parents teach their children stranger danger from the minute they can understand the concept. One of the key lessons taught is to not accept rides from strangers. How do those commenting on this story, the reporter and Mr. Peterson himself not understand this…
/r/MensRights18/03/12 03:01 AM
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People have presented you with many viable solutions. Sort through them, pick the one that best works for you, and quit bitching. Being able to continue to see your kids is much more important than not being inconvenienced.
/r/MensRights24/02/12 11:25 AM
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I see absolutely nothing wrong with this. In most modern nations this is how things already happen. If you get married, half of what you own belongs to the other person and vice versa. EDIT* However, extending it to 2 people living together is going a bit far.
/r/MensRights06/02/12 10:27 AM
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That does not mean it is okay to actually act on it, be they man or woman.
/r/MensRights23/01/12 11:50 AM
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Do you know of any solid citations of women abusing men? I will use them to try and keep my argument with this troll as balanced as possible.
/r/MensRights23/01/12 11:31 AM
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Not to look like a total mouthbreather, but no it did not cross my mind until recently. This is gonna go in circles, so let's stop please. I didn't know, now I do.
/r/MensRights20/12/11 07:44 AM
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It's not something I made a conscious effort to recognize before I saw the video. I am a female with no kids, so I was never aware of exactly what it was until I saw the video. We could go on all day trying to figure out the reason why I was unaware of this, but the facts are the facts. I was ignorant up until I watched the damned video. Cut me a break.
/r/MensRights19/12/11 09:16 AM
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I have never seen or heard of the issue aside from being told it was absolutely necessary for male health in biology and sex ed. Therefore, yes I did in fact have to watch the video to agree. False information is a little hard to overwrite.
/r/MensRights19/12/11 07:55 AM
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Thank you. I have watched a few of their videos already. I will take another crack at them when I get home from work tonight :-).
/r/MensRights19/12/11 05:24 AM
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What is Phimosis?
/r/MensRights19/12/11 04:32 AM
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Seems like a legitimate decision. Unless there is a medical problem where this procedure would be required, I fail to see the benefits of it.
/r/MensRights19/12/11 04:30 AM
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I honestly hope you are trolling. edit: Kinda picked up on that OThomson :-).
/r/MensRights19/12/11 04:29 AM
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I watched a video of that recently, and I have to say that I agree. It seems unnecessary and painful for the child. If I ever have a son, I am not getting him circumcised.
/r/MensRights19/12/11 04:10 AM
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By bodily integrity, do you mean the recurring theme in comedy of male bodily injury being considered funny, or any injury overall?
/r/MensRights19/12/11 04:06 AM
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This is one of the most asenine things I have ever heard. If the woman is incapacitated with the baby coming nonetheless, is the doctor who sticks his or her hand up there to deliver the baby safely a "birth rapist"? Utter nonsense.
/r/MensRights19/12/11 03:54 AM
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It is a bit refreshing that you guys decided to point out the difference between women's rights activists and feminists. It makes me happy to know that not all of you brand all females who fight for equality should be branded as something detrimental to a fair and balanced society (feminist).
/r/MensRights19/12/11 03:52 AM
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First, I am not a concern troll, or a troll of any sort. I am sorry if you saw me that way. I should have presented myself in a better manner, I suppose. Second, thank you for taking the time to post such an articulate response. This is along the lines of what I was hoping for. Not, in the sense, of enraging any of you, but getting a heartfelt, well-thought out reply from which I could further my own research into this subject. I am sorry for the any inconvenience I have caused you, and again, t…
/r/MensRights19/12/11 03:44 AM
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Lol neither do I. I was just trying to cheer you on :).
/r/MensRights19/12/11 03:20 AM
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I am sorry to hear that. I hope I have not fallen into that category because that sure in the hell was not my intention. I am just trying to gather info. Sorry for doing it in a douchey manner.
/r/MensRights19/12/11 03:19 AM
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Not at the moment, but I might be later :-).
/r/MensRights18/12/11 10:47 PM
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My motives were to gather information through asking others what they thought. Mission accomplished. I am the type who likes to develop as fair and balanced an opinion as possible drawing upon multiple sources and other people before formulating a half-cocked one of my own.
/r/MensRights18/12/11 10:46 PM
1

Not entirely unrelated. I wanted your guys' opinion on a video, and I got it.
/r/MensRights18/12/11 10:44 PM
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Because I wanted to know your honest opinion. Is that so strange? I do not know much about either movement just yet, and I figured the best way to learn would be to get honest, raw opinions.
/r/MensRights18/12/11 10:43 PM
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According to some data I have seen may support this. More women are in college than men etc. It is because of women pushing men down and demanding they get what they do. So even if the number is not accurate, the final results may still be imbalanced, but I highly doubt that it is world-wide. Also I feel like an asshole for even posting this video now. I genuinely did not know that 1st world feminists are trying to generate support for their cause by exploiting the suffering of those in the 3rd …
/r/MensRights18/12/11 10:41 PM
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Anything is helpful. I was mostly interested in the non-feminist female. I do not agree with everything she says, but she holds many similar beliefs that I have. I watched 7 of her videos as well as most of the other ones you sent me before calling it a night last night :-). I should also try searching more this weekend when I get the chance.
/r/MensRights18/12/11 10:38 PM
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Godspeed.
/r/MensRights18/12/11 10:37 PM
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Mainly I have been looking at ones that help out orphaned children.
/r/MensRights18/12/11 12:46 PM
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You are entitled to your opinions, but again, there are women who have contributed to many causes as well. To outright deny this is unfair to both the women who made those achievements and those that have benefited from them. I will leave it at that.
/r/MensRights18/12/11 12:44 PM
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The barrier of understanding is that he wants to pass judgement on me for what I am as opposed to who I am. Feminists seem to be doing the same thing to men, but that does not mean he should do it to others. I can see how it would be hard not to, but the barrier between us is one of his own creation and not mine. I do not wish to fight him, and offered him several opportunities to make fair judgements. He could not see past the fact that I am a woman though. That is not my fault. I posted this v…
/r/MensRights18/12/11 12:41 PM
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Okay, thanks for that. I am not that much of an asshole and am too busy with life to do something so stupid.
/r/MensRights18/12/11 12:37 PM
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Posted.
/r/MensRights18/12/11 12:36 PM
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I am a woman and I was outraged by the video. The title of the video states that "OMG A POOR WOMAN WAS STONED TO DEATH BY EVIL MEN FOR CHEATING". While this is a tragedy in and of itself, it makes absolutely no mention of the man who suffered the same fate as the woman towards the very end of the video. This is biased and enraging. At the very least they should have said "lovers stoned to death" Or something along those lines. It would have drawn even more support if it had, in my opinion. The w…
/r/MensRights18/12/11 12:34 PM
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Fair enough I suppose. But it does not make it right. I am going to try and find some charities that will help alleviate some of the human suffering (both men and women) and donate.
/r/MensRights18/12/11 10:34 AM
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I chose rights that should not be violated by anyone exactly because I expected a response like this. Killing someone or abusing them is a violation of the most basic rights. Others I was going to list was access to clean water and food etc, but I figured in some instances the rights of others would have to be violated in order to obtain these, so I left them off. Being abused or killed, however, is a case of one person irrevocably violating the rights of another. Kim Jong Il constantly violates…
/r/MensRights18/12/11 10:14 AM
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It is not always possible to provide protections for the rights of others, I am aware of this. It does not make their rights invalid, though, just violated. You asked me what a right was, I answered. I do not agree with your assessment that rights are violence, but I would like to state that they have the potential to become so once they are violated and those wronged take up arms to get them back.
/r/MensRights18/12/11 10:03 AM
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What is a concern troll? I am a bit confused about this one. How do they actually troll? I guess I need to lurk more.
/r/MensRights18/12/11 09:57 AM
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Thanks for the heads up.
/r/MensRights18/12/11 09:55 AM
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A right is an inviolable set of ideals assigned to an individual at birth. It is something that can be taken away, but should never be. Examples would be: the right to live, the right to not be abused etc. I can think of more examples, but they would be debatable depending on who you are and where you come from, so I will leave those ones out.
/r/MensRights18/12/11 09:55 AM
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Do you know of any good organizations that support both? Based on the opinions I already possess, and the new info I have discovered recently, I find that it is unfair to choose one side or the other, and would rather prefer to choose the humanity route.
/r/MensRights18/12/11 09:49 AM
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This is a very honest and interesting interpretation. Thank you for that.
/r/MensRights18/12/11 09:48 AM
0

Let me fix that statement for you: all the efforts of western men and women to create a society free from starvation, infant mortality and other problems which we have been so successful in dealing with have been wasted. In some countries females have not benefited so much from individualistic genius, and in our own they are still dissatisfied whining narcissists. Just want to point out that there are women who have made huge contributions to society as well. This video is trying to inspire othe…
/r/MensRights18/12/11 09:46 AM
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This video does not say anything about Mens Rights Advocates, so I am rather unsure where you are getting the idea that it is calling them stupid. The point of the video is most likely to get females to take a stand, empower themselves to make a better life, and set an example for future generations, but without necessarily bashing men.
/r/MensRights18/12/11 09:43 AM
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For the record, I appreciate any and all sacrifices made by the men and women who protect and serve our country. My dad and both my grandpas served in the military. I also feel for the men and women Iraqi civilians who lost their lives in Iraq. Shit sucks all around, tbh.
/r/MensRights18/12/11 09:37 AM
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Poor baby! Fuck this is seriously the first time I have seen this. I have been told they perform it for medical reasons. Is that untrue?
/r/MensRights18/12/11 09:35 AM
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I agree with this to a certain extent, but forcing women into certain situations is still a very sad thing. Your viewpoint only covers education. I am more concerned about this whole female genital mutilation thing. They do it not for medical reasons, but to "ensure female purity" for their "future affluent husbands". On their wedding night, a man takes a knife and cuts open the hole, so he can have sex with her. Things like this are what bother me the most, I suppose. I am sure there are severa…
/r/MensRights18/12/11 09:23 AM
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It perpetuates the problem, I agree, but this video is not targeting men, which is the whole point I was trying to make. They convey their message without bashing men. It is unfortunate that they chose only to represent females, though, I agree.
/r/MensRights18/12/11 09:17 AM
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Lol thank you. Have all opened in seperate tabs now :D.
/r/MensRights18/12/11 09:15 AM
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Thank you for such an articulate response :-). I will be watching that video.
/r/MensRights18/12/11 09:14 AM
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Point taken, but the target is still the same.
/r/MensRights18/12/11 07:59 AM
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No, not me. The maker of this video does. But it seems to be a recurring theme in this drama. All of the mens rights videos I watched had the same undertone. They did not talk about any specific issue, but many issues.
/r/MensRights18/12/11 07:59 AM
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Thank you :). I have to leave now and will not be back until evening, so I guess that works out :D.
/r/MensRights18/12/11 04:00 AM
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I am interested in either type, but I am not interested in ones that bash women. I want a simple and clean statement of the facts.
/r/MensRights18/12/11 03:41 AM
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Stating that women are the problem is a very strong statement. There are issues on both sides of the fence that need to be addressed by both parties. It is not fair to make an opponent bear the brunt of the blame simply because you said so. Also, to give you a little more insight as to who I am as opposed to what I am (from which you keep making preconceived judgements about my character), I am a 25 year old American woman. I live in Japan. I teach English at an elementary school. I am engaged t…
/r/MensRights18/12/11 03:30 AM
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Assume what you will, but that post is actually what got me interested in the first place. Take a look at the rest of my comments, if you like. I just recently took an interest in this. The rest of my posts are about teaching etc. I have no reason to troll any of you.
/r/MensRights18/12/11 03:15 AM
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This is not my video. Please stop making assumptions about my character based on nothing. Here is where I found this video.
/r/MensRights18/12/11 03:12 AM
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Fair enough. Do you know of more credible videos? I am in the midst of researching from both sides.
/r/MensRights18/12/11 03:07 AM
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What am I, according to you? Edit: I notice you keep editing your comment to me. Please respond to my response. I am genuinely interested in your answer.
/r/MensRights18/12/11 03:05 AM
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What sort of holistic approach? Edit: I am being serious. I mostly want to know which direction I should take this sort of research.
/r/MensRights18/12/11 03:05 AM
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Ummm okay? You seem to be on a personal crusade against me and other women. You are entitled to your opinions, but that does not mean they are correct, or that I am out on some crusade to whine and whine about other women simply because, according to you, I have no right to whine about my own rights in the UK or US. Stop for a second. Look at my comment history. This is my second time even posting in this thread. I am trying to gain a balanced perspective on the whole ordeal, and this just so ha…
/r/MensRights18/12/11 03:03 AM
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Fair enough. Can we focus on the overall message, though? Do you know of any videos like this that promote mens and boys rights without bashing? I have not found any yet. Do you know of any more credible videos shedding light on female problems? I am just starting to get into this sort of thing, and want to develop a balanced perspective.
/r/MensRights18/12/11 02:59 AM
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Not sure either. Your number could be legit in most places, but I think it changes from country to country. Either way, I also agree that this number is a bit padded.
/r/MensRights18/12/11 02:55 AM
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I am not a victim, but females in developing countries are, as are young boys who are forced to do things they should not have to do. Question though: Why are you attacking me? Interesting fact: I am female, but am not a feminist. I do, however, feel for the girls who have to suffer through this on a daily basis, as well as for the boys. Do you know of any good videos that do not attack women, but bring light to problems boys face? Because all I have seen recently is ones that have very good poi…
/r/MensRights18/12/11 02:51 AM
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The target of the video is those girls in the developing world. Also, they fail to mention boys in that this is a video about girls lol. I just happened to stumble on this and was wondering how mens rights advocates perceived this. Your reactions are very interesting to me.
/r/MensRights18/12/11 02:48 AM
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I am not sure about that either. They may be pulling from a very broad range, such as women in certain cultures doing the brunt of chores etc, as well as supporting family through some part time job. It seems a bit high to me too. Maybe something like 50~55% is a more accurate guess.
/r/MensRights18/12/11 02:46 AM
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Emotionally manipulated by shedding light on some of the very real problems in third world countries? I am a bit confused by this. I do, however appreciate your ending comment. Women are the ones that need to make the change, as is the message in this video. Please remember this video is directed at women, in order to get them to make that change.
/r/MensRights18/12/11 02:40 AM
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This sort of feminism is good, I think. It is about making women's lifes better through education, and standing up for their rights, but not necessarily pushing down the rights of men, in my opinion. Also, for those of you who do not know what female genital mutilation (one of the problems sited in the video) is, please click here.
/r/MensRights18/12/11 02:33 AM
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I just perused his comments, and did not look at how old the account was. Thanks :).
/r/MensRights16/12/11 07:57 AM
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This was the overall tone of my response to the above individual, but it just was a downward spiral from there.
/r/MensRights16/12/11 07:48 AM
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I know not all of you are like this, please just let me know you are out there. Trying to reason with this one is like talking to a brick wall, and it made me lose faith in humanity a bit :(. A bit of background on me: I am a 25 year old female working as an elementary school teacher in Japan (teaching English as a second language), and am currently engaged to a Japanese man (not important, but just for context). I think that men and women are equals, and should be treated equally, but also equa…
/r/MensRights16/12/11 07:47 AM
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