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You just explained something we already knew which is that female emancipation which has been happening in the past century is a threat for the patriarchal system we live in and only benefits men. In the moment women started gaining rights men didn't expect to crumble and get weaker from a social point of view. So now what? Do western men want us western women to be in forced marriage, out of the workforce, with no education only housewives and mothers, not focusing on our careers and with no ri…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/22 12:38 PM
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Some men have these "opinions" and then wonder why women don't want anything to do with them. The audacity to say women's sexuality is a commodity for us when our female sexuality has always been either repressed or exploited since ever and comparing it to men's money is truly sickening. Women's systematic objectification from men doesn't give us power or money it just reduces us to sex objects for men's benefits to use like they want.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/22 08:35 AM
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The tango in question happens in a specific system within a society which influences our behavior and mindset so my point still stands about what does a grown man has in common with a teen girl
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/22 10:59 AM
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I don't see what a grown man has in common with a teen who's barely legal considering how in different stages of their life they are. It's totally fair to be concerned about older men being groomers towards younger women especially in this era with the internet teen girls are more exposed to predatory behavior by men and irl things got worse too. Everyday you can read posts of women who are in relationships with big age gaps and the pattern is always similar with them getting groomed and ending …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/22 07:36 AM
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marriage was never the dream for me, I always knew it was a scam especially for us women that's why we're socialized since a young age to see it as the main goal of our lives. Luckily it seems things are changing though also cause older women are opening up and being honest about the reality of marriage for us with its dynamics
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/22 11:28 PM
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Maybe I understood what you're trying to say but it's not correct, you can't "win" over a system that is based on your own oppression. It would make no sense for feminists and feminism as a whole to keep the patriarchy and trying to win over it in some ways. The goal has always been to get rid of that system otherwise it's a losing situation from the start if feminists tried to make the patriarchy benefit women
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/22 06:58 PM
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many really are confused about what's the aim of feminism, feminism goal has always been to destroy the patriarchy cause it hurts women so feminists don't want to keep it steady and turn into something benefiting them cause that's an oxymoron but dismantling it completely. Feminism brought a radical change in our society giving women more rights and alternatives so men didn't like that much automatically the infamous different pills were born by men as answer to this cultural and social change. …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/22 06:44 PM
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Women have always cared a lot about men's feelings, maybe too much actually majority of women puts men's feelings above everything else even before theirs and nobody can say that's not true
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/22 05:37 PM
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This mindset just proves once again how women will be blamed for the way men see us. Saying we uphold a sort of thinking where we have to be "conquered" in the dating pool is an excuse used cause men don't want to hold themselves accountable for the fact they only see us as objects and not human beings with feelings, thoughts and more.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/22 12:31 PM
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This kind of mentality is one of the many issues men don't want to hold each other accountable for. Men have never protected women from other men in the first place, many times it happened that women were being assaulted in public and no one moved a finger to help her. It shouldn't be an obligation for men to act like decent human beings and intervene in these situations it's common sense but it's essential for you to have accountability for why there's the need of those "rules" we're supposed t…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/22 10:39 AM
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Depends on what you mean for "done right" cause based on social standards doing marriage right leads to that dynamic I was talking about where women are much more disadvantaged and trapped into it.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/22 01:07 PM
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social and cultural dynamics have been changing for a few decades now and we know that, as many other women have been pointing out lately as far as I noticed when it comes to this topic many say men don't bring anything to the table cause we know how the relationship standards totally changed compared to the past. Women's emancipation at least in the west made it possible for us to be independent economically which means we don't need a man to "provide for us" at the same time it looks like men …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/22 01:02 PM
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It's dishonest to not admit that marriage as an institution was born to box women in a specific dynamic of course things changed a bit with time but some women having happy marriages with their husbands doesn't automatically cancel the reason why marriage was created and the dynamic it implies
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/22 08:03 AM
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I'm saying what you're proposing wouldn't work cause you should know how even in western countries there's a similar mindset prior example of that is those gender reveal parties where the father (sometimes even the mother) looks disappointed and sad when it's color pink and super happy and excited when the color is blue. This is why the gender ratio was already changed in the past and rechanging it would take a total cultural and social change also you'd only push this policy to have more women …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/22 09:09 PM
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Interesting and crazy take considering how the opposite actually happened with sex selective abortion policies due to misogyny in different countries are the reason why there is an excessive amount of men compared to women, those governments only wanted men to be born and probably didn't take in consideration how it would have affected the population after a few decades. The gender ratio in society was already changed and made like this on purpose
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/22 08:03 PM
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Usually when something goes wrong in society women's rights are the first thing they attack and take away from us so of course men would force us into those arrangements all over again bc that's the only method they know to handle issues but honestly and luckily women changed a lot in the past century, we wouldn't let them force us into anything like it used to happen and celibacy for sure is something many would choose
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/22 07:56 PM
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not at all, I choose celibacy and I'm pretty sure many other women would do the same. I prefer society collapsing to going back to a total conservative mindset where we women are only wives and mothers trapped in marriage
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/22 07:47 PM
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If you think having access to abortion is only linked to hook up culture you're deeply ignorant about women's issues. Abortion is part of women's healthcare, it's needed even for women who are married or in established relationships whose life is in danger or are in abusive situations, it's for women victims of violence, women who simply don't want children and that's none of your business cause you'll never understand what it means or how dangerous it is to not have access to one. Reducing an a…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/22 05:43 PM
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men mess around until their 30s and then settle for a wife but there are no podcasts policing their behavior, it's only an issue when women are doing the same. The times where women had to get married and have kids in their early 20s are over, those years and 30s too aren't focused on marriage anymore we can have fun in different ways and focusing on other things also getting a husband isn't a priority especially since women figured out marriage is a big scam for us. This obsession with women's …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/22 06:03 PM
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A lot of incorrect stuff and disinformation here. I was referring to positive spaces where we women can support each other, talk to each other, grow and share experiences which can improve our lives and have sisterhood same goes for those female figures which can help us. In those spaces we also end up talking about bad experiences with men which isn't misandry. On the contrary, those male spaces don't seem to be focused on helping men growing together, have brotherhood with each other and some …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/22 11:16 AM
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Kinda predictable cause we're proving wrong something he thinks about us women as a fact that us craving attention when we truly don't want to, I'll never get why we saying we'd rather be invisible bothers so many of them
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/22 10:25 AM
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and women were born to always be sexualized and receive unwanted compliments or attention that make us uncomfortable. Neither of the two situations seem beneficial. As I said, the visibility we women get and you men thing is a privilege is an outcome of society objectifying us that's why we would trade to not receive it
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/22 09:39 AM
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none of us was born invisible, if you base your visibility in society on the compliments you receive that seems superficial to me. I don't value attention as a privilege especially as a woman cause we perfectly know that attention comes from a place of objectification so even if you have "abundance" of it you'd rather not have it at all. Many women don't feel comfortable at all in getting this kind of attention still many men think that's somehow what we want
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/22 09:02 AM
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One of the many things you men don't understand is that we women will always have a support system made by our female friends, female figures in our life, spaces either online or offline which will never make us lonely or invisible after one year. This is why so many women are understanding that the benefits of being single and celibate are so much more than being in a relationship and that won't make us feel miserable like you think. Peace won't mean forced into invisible but rather men leaving…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/22 08:39 AM
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Of course I would trade that. Men's attention is worth zero to me anyway, if we could get rid of being objectified, harassed, catcalled and more women could start living a life in peace without always being scared or anxious of what could happen to us and that's worth so much more than a few compliments from the same ones who harass us
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/22 07:47 AM
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You're lying and wrong, you know that already. We are not assessed as people and human beings but only as sexual objects it's not a "bonus" or a "value". Our personhood doesn't exist, we're objects for men's sexuality how is that an advantage when it upholds women's subjection to the system. There's nothing valuable about me just being seen as an object you can use for yourself bc of my body, it rips me of my being a human, a person.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/22 12:09 PM
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Objectifying women means we are not seen as human beings but just objects to satisfy men fantasies and male sexuality, women's objectification reinforces that systematic dynamic where we're just used and seen for our body. Thinking this is an advantage for us is such a lie, how is us being only seen as sexual objects a benefit for us when society doesn't see women deserving of personhood. Nowadays this objectification is getting even worse for multiple reasons maybe society should start seeing w…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/22 09:32 AM
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"multiple reasons" I only saw biology and testosterone so far or any comments always linking the issue to that. It's not about me being satisfied or not but expecting men to understand that blaming something out of their control when it is seems unproductive for themselves as well not only towards us women
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/22 10:12 AM
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I'm perfectly aware of that although your libido can control but at the same time can be controlled by your brain and your actions, us women have many moments during our period when our libido skyrockets as well but we don't let that take over us and think with our hormones like men do. It sounds like an excuse when you don't hold yourself accountable and straight up say "we're like that, we can't do anything about ir" using it as a general answer for all of your actions.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/22 09:44 AM
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I don't need to be a man to point out that human brain with its will power can make you control your urges. The debate by OP was clearly about how men seem like the only thing they think about is sex so you bringing up our period to say we can't control our feelings in that time bc of hormones isn't the same at all bc our period doesn't make use and play with men to satisfy our urges like it may happen to men who seem insatiable. I didn't expect you all to say you choose to be like this way, I w…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/22 06:25 AM
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We don't tend to like the same kind of men, women aren't a monolith and as you can see from the comments what we like can be very different. I don't get why so many men think this about us, you all made this up for some reason
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/22 08:47 PM
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as expected a lot of men are saying they're wired like that blaming biology and testosterone but for me it makes no sense at all, we're human beings and we have the will power to control our urges that's what differentiate us from other species right so I think many of you use this as an excuse to not hold yourselves accountable. We women have hormones too but we have so much more self control so blaming the way you act on something you can't control when you actually can seems a bit dishonest. …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/22 08:01 PM
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