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Women are also complaining about dating. There countless think pieces on how they cant find "a good man". So no this isn't the excuse you think it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 06:49 PM
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She can do what ever she wants. She doesn't need any excuse to get a divorce and she doesn't need to divulge it to anyone. If she chooses to than that's her prerogative. But its no longer him slandering her.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/26 01:45 AM
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Even if it isn't and she didn't know if he was the father. She would still need to pay back the man because he isn't the father. I agree that intention needs to be present for other damages. But that's fine.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/26 10:45 PM
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The crime for paternity fraud should be the same as any fraud. You're basically arguing that fraud shouldn't be punished if you think otherwise.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/26 10:41 PM
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The only crime or tort to hold them accountable would be slander. However I dont see why this would need to be publicized? Are you asking for a social punishment. Although the misconception here is that a man must suspect his wife of cheating if he asks for a paternity test. I know my dad is 100 percent my dad but I still got a DNA test out of interest. The punishment you're asking here is to punish curiosity.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/26 10:36 PM
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But that's not slander and they would only not be living together if she blows up the marriage because of the question.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/26 10:29 PM
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Yeah but the post is about women calling him coercive for asking directly. Are you dense?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/26 01:21 PM
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Behavioral genetics is another field equally criticized in the same way as evo psych. One shared critique is genetic determinism. You can find it at the criticism and controversy section here. Also the psychiatry article i showed has similar criticism on determinism. You dont have an argument i fulfilled every condition u asked for. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Behavioural_genetics
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/26 01:54 PM
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Science is a legitimate field that has criticism levied against it. According to you this would put it in the same pseudoscientific category as evopsch. But if you want something else. Let's go with psychiatry. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-psychiatry
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/26 04:46 AM
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Criticism_of_science
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/26 03:04 AM
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interesting considering women are actually the ones with higher libidos and drives than men There is genuinely no proof of this. In fact id wager the opposite.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/26 12:39 PM
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Proof this?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/26 03:11 AM
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No one does this. Ive heard you say that sex isn't important to a relationship. You project your asexuality and trauma onto every discussion.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/26 03:58 PM
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There's more to house than a toilet. But you wouldn't live in a house without one. Same is true with relationships and sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/26 03:53 PM
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Women dont say, you cant control who you're attracted to?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/26 03:44 PM
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The original question was that some women are bad. My rebuttal is that women don't call them out when they're bad for instance when they're being hypocrites like lilith. It was just a clarification on the different dynamics between men and women.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/26 11:47 PM
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So these women agree that men should be held responsible for their bad choice in women but women should not? Do you agree with that?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/26 11:36 PM
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For example, in a thread with lilithofbabylon. She's arguing that men who choose bad women are to blame for their choices. I agree. Now my argument is that women who choose bad men are also to blame for their choices. She's deflected and dodged and avoided admitting this. Are you and other women willing to call her out for this genuine double standard? Ill link if you'd like.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/26 10:57 PM
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That's not what I said. Im just saying that women show their bias towards women even when they're in relationships. Im just asking you to call out women when they wrong. With the same frequency as you do men.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/26 10:28 PM
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All you have to say is women should also choose better its not what about ism if we agree with the premise. We're just presenting a new argument based in your own logic. Should women also choose better if this standard applies to men.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/26 10:24 PM
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You would expand your options by going to more countries though? Right.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/26 09:25 PM
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You're just proving that women really cant take accountability for their choices. Men Absolutely ate this. This is the problem with modern day relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/26 08:28 PM
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But when they're bad and it hurts men women have a hard time calling out other women for their bad behavior. The women are wonderful effects leads them to side with women in the relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/26 07:39 PM
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I know im just pointing out that the commentors view point falls flat on its face.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/26 04:08 AM
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.43 vs .46 stated women were actually more likely to care about looks.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/26 01:48 PM
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You don't know how wrong you are. But hey its hurts when you get called out. Take care
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/26 06:18 PM
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You dont understand the underlying logic behind those stats. Stop thinking its just gonna hurt your brain.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/26 04:22 PM
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Did he have a criminal record yes or no. You're the one racializing this.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/26 04:21 PM
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Yes you do. As dumb as the people who argue that bears are statistically safer than men. Bears are also statistically safer for babies than mothers.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/26 01:48 PM
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from other men by beating the man’s ass for “looking at my women” 🤦🏽‍♀️ This just seems like you're dating a violent thug. Tell me do any of your exes have criminal records.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/26 05:38 AM
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That's fine but men broadly expect deference society wide, from women, for being men. Give me an example of this along with an explanation. How essentially they supposedly are to protect women Its literally always been the women in our family. We don't care enough about random women to risk our lives for them. I don't know how this got confused but when men say men protect women. Its men protect women you're close with. If all men do that then the effect is men will have protected women as a goa…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/26 05:19 AM
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Yes and the biggest threat to a baby is its mother. I mean you guys sound dumb when you uncritically regurgitate this stuff.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/26 05:10 AM
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Maybe we should start saying family protectors. Because we've never wanted to protect random women.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/26 07:40 PM
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Protectors of the women in THEIR lives. Moms, sisters, girlfriends, wives, daughters etc. Not a random woman who literally chose to date a murderer. Look it up, cant make this up.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/26 07:39 PM
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Have you watched these men. They're saying they'd protect their family members but not strangers. When men say they protect women its usually the women around them. We're not intervening for strangers unless its 911.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/26 07:38 PM
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By any chance do you mind telling us how old you are?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/26 07:35 PM
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When do men shame women for taking precautions? The man who killed this guy was literally a convicted murderer who got out of prison a year ago and still got a date with a woman. This is why we say pick better. But some women actively choose douche bags like this. Im willing to bet that most women. Killers had a violent crime in their past. Its not a dateline episode where a lawyer kills his family and then himself Women focus entirely on the wrong precautions and blame all men when it goes wron…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/26 07:29 PM
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As long as they aren't feminists women I'm for it. I hate jury duty.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/26 05:29 PM
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Theyre best in terms of the hypothetical things women say they want. Op is just pointing out how women are shooting themselves in the foot.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/26 01:17 AM
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im talking about how scales for those medical conditios are developed its not medical professionals asking the questions face to face. its literally researchers asking a bunch of people if they've felt extreme sadness in the last 2 weeks. People who criticize self report surveys dont seem to understand that large numbers inherently increase the accuracy of a self report survey. They are effective.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/26 01:59 PM
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always believe women over men. The only time I wouldn't take a woman's testimony at face value I think its reasonable that misandry or even modern day feminism at this point be a criteria to exclude people from juries.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/26 08:23 PM
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Is this more than 21% of men have been violent or 21 percent of women have been the victims of violence? Whats the source. Im guessing you confused what I just got done explaining. An abusive man can be in multiple relationships throughout his life.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/26 08:17 PM
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Nah, we can look up reciprocal and non reciprocal violence rates. I dont think women want to admit that a lot of women do start fights and keep abusing and losing guys until they find a guy that finally fights back. Also if youre making the claim that most female perpetrated dv is in self defense. Give us the evidence.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/26 08:15 PM
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How do you know that some DV stats say otherwise.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/26 08:08 PM
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I didnt say a took issue with women. Im just showing you how your logic doesn't necessarily lead to OPs conclusions. Also do u take issue with the 21 percent of women.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/26 08:06 PM
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If I were to accept your experience. all of women can experience mysogyny in real life and still have it come from 7 percent of men on the internet. One comment or post can reach multiple people. In real life thats also true. One president can do mysoginistic things that effect the whole. Not to mention mysoginistsic men could get into multiple relationships in their lives. Jobs, romantic partners, school, church etc and spread their mysoginy to women that way. 7 percent of men could easily be r…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/26 08:00 PM
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How do you feel about mental health diagnosis then? Are they valid or invalid seeing as they rely predominantly on self reported data?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/26 07:55 PM
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The new statesman poll is also anonymous. So the fact men were still less likely to say they hated women less is telling. Men dont hate women. Women seem to though.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/26 07:48 PM
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Ok i guess it takes all sorts. Ill believe it. Thanks for providing evidence .
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/26 02:17 AM
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Oh ok . So not the op of the post but someone who i think is making fun of that op by assuming he's just coomer brained?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/26 02:15 AM
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This isn't what that post said at all. If the comment below linked the right thread. Can you copy and paste exactly where he said he said he wanted women to fuck inexperienced men? Or even alluded to it.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/26 11:55 PM
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The issue is that even if you were killed by a woman. That woman would get a lighter sentence.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/26 09:36 PM
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Ok if youre fucking him everytime he needs to masturbate. I salute you sister, go forth. But I don't think most women are/can do that so therefore men will pull one off.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/26 04:33 PM
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Lol men aren't limited in the amount of erections they have. You dont use 10,000 and then youre done. On top of this women aren't having sex every time there guy has a stiffy.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/26 04:28 PM
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You can do both in a relationship. How are they mutually exclusive.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/26 11:25 PM
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Men aren't really asking for help, we pride ourselves on being self reliant. We only ask for accurate info.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/26 01:38 PM
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I was just talking about men and women online. In their so called spheres.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/26 01:35 PM
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You have links to individuals. On reddit. We could go back and forth and i can show you what tiktok looks like when you type in male loneliness (BTW I dont have tiktok so no algorithm manipulation). I can do the same in youtube as well. This conversation is mostly coming from women and male feminists. You haven't debunked anything because im not sure you even understand what youre arguing.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/26 10:13 PM
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Its not. You'll notice the word most in my claim. If you type in the word male loneliness epidemic on Google, tiktok, YouTube etc. The people talking about this the most are women and feminists in general. You haven't debunked anything you're just showing that red pill men have talked about it in instances. Which i dont contend with.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/26 09:47 PM
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The male loneliness discussion is being promoted mostly by women. The men pushing it as of this moment are feminist men aligned with feminism. That's my claim.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/26 07:07 PM
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To be fair, their stated goal is just to arm men with information about women. Also what do "femosphere" discuss besides all men being trash and blaming men for their dating problems.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/26 06:44 PM
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What are you arguing against what's your claim. Im saying that men dont only talk about male loneliness. Which is what I think you're trying to imply. Im saying that I hear more about the male loneliness epidemic from women than men as a way to disparage men. But they miss that 10% of women are also classified as lonely.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/26 06:42 PM
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How many men just speak about the male loveliness epidemic? In deed the only people who zero in on the male loneliness epidemic are strangely women. 10% of women are lonely but 15% of men are.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/26 06:33 PM
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No evidence for this. Its mostly a rich poor thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/26 05:35 PM
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Ok but these women aren't on the fence saying they might not. They're adamant antinatalists. On top of that i do mention women who can't get pregnant for whatever reason. Should they go off to war?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/26 03:41 PM
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What if a woman couldn't or didn't ever want to grow children in her womb. Is it ok to advocate for those women to go to war?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/26 10:28 PM
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True but we just need a woman who has a high sex drive within relationship settings. Being a virgin is an impossible standard that no one is reaching.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/26 01:19 AM
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Thank you people dont realize this.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/26 01:14 AM
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Op, can I ask if youre planning to ever get married?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/26 01:12 AM
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0 Caring about society and it's problems is the purview of better men Most men will not be "better" for nothing in return. Notice how the elite men in society are almost always married and or have kids. As women keep going higher and higher more and more men stop caring.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/26 11:30 PM
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Yes the tail is wagging the dog. As women continue with their higher and higher selection more men become NEET and society has less revenue to run itself. If the reality that OP states becomes true. Tell me, why wouldn't men reduce to extra labour they do for society to the bare minimum required survive.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/26 11:25 PM
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Tl;dr : we will soon finally have no gener pay gap. Stop larping as oil rig workers. You dont need to be an oil rig worker. Even for common jobs men work more hours than women. Likely because they need to. But if there isn't an incentive that goes down. You're already seeing an rise in NEET men. Men not going to college in even roughly comparable rates as women. Also let's bring to mind that married men make more than single men. I think women like to pretend that their causing there men to earn…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/26 11:19 PM
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I think youre right but people need to become comfortable with the idea that men will likely do less of the back breaking sole crushing extra work it takes to keep society afloat. Men currently are net contributors to our taxes usually are not. Why would men do this extra contribution without benefit. Also a less bleak option for these men is good sex robots. But for both solutions I fear its women that will have a harder time adapting to the consequence of the world created.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/26 08:49 PM
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but the people who buy dildos are a very specific kind of woman. I know but the random sample matches the Dildo buying population averages. That's why I bring it up. So its a pretty accurate extrapolation to women at large.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/26 02:17 PM
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When a woman has a high libido there’s very often a medical reason behind it. Ok how does that address anything ive said? Good for you. Im just saying that promiscuity and sex drive are different but likely correlated concepts.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/26 02:01 PM
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She can keep getting fucked by high status rich guys. But dont complain about them not committing. Women want commitment that these men wont give. At some point they need someone to support their life. You're saying this as if these high status men are lining up to marry average women 😆
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/26 01:59 PM
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Preferences dont mean necessity. Also the study is prause et Al 2015
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/26 04:59 AM
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You dont think that women do this as well. Do you think short men aren't disparaged by women? Men are asking for equal standards. If women want to say that short men have napoleon complexes why cant men opine about the complexes and issues around single moms.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/26 12:24 AM
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Ok but women do actually choose that on social media.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/26 06:01 PM
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No, they've proven that's the size the found visually and tactiley appealing. On top of this. Women choose around the same size when they're shopping for their own dildo. Pretty good evidence as to what dimensions they like inside them. It shouldn't be surprising that women love above average size given the love for height that women have. In terms of rarity a 6.4 penis size is equivalent to a 6'2 man.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/26 05:56 PM
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Bro can we stop this put men to shame thing. Lesbian have much less sex than gay men when the genders are completely left to their own devices. Men on average will have a higher sex drive than women and thats OK. This makes sense given the fact that men dont get pregnant and have had no selective pressure to dampen sex drive.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/26 05:44 PM
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You're confusing sex drive and promiscuity. You can have a high sex drive in a relationship with one person. Hell you can have a high sex drive and just masturbate 10 times a day. Im not naive enough to believe that there isn't a correlation between sex drive and promiscuity but they are different things.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/26 05:41 PM
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Its bone pressed length, for age ill give it 5.5 for young men. Still one in shorter than the prause study.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/26 05:14 PM
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Let them touch them. Jesus christ its a scientific study not a porn shoot.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/26 02:36 PM
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There was a study about this with women that used silicone models to get better estimates of women's preferences. The average size women wanted was 6.4 inches. So we'll above the 5.1 inch average. However that doesn't mean that 5.1 inches isn't sufficient to please a woman gentlemen. Like height, I think its just an ideal that most women do get over. The study is by nicole prause 2015.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/26 02:25 PM
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Sir according to you. Whoever I pick wishes they could romp around town and break hearts Its not hypocritical because they can't effectively. most men are are constrained from cheating by their lack of options. If you want to pick the same man that other women are picking. Then you're likely to get a guy who'll cheat on you. Its not about morality its about practicality. Its not pretty to say but its the truth. By pick better im saying acknowledge this truth and act accordingly. Also, im using h…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/26 03:13 AM
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And yet fuck boys exist. Sometimes I think women just lie to themselves to get into these relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/26 03:21 AM
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No youre projecting your ideas on to me. Men can want sex but the cost for women is eventually half their assets as collateral. If im wrong than marry a man but sign a prenup saying you only want the assets you contributed to in a relationship. Most women aren't doing that.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/26 09:34 PM
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They dont have to. You're giving it up for free. More than 20 percent of women end up coupled but that doesn't mean they didn't fuck those top men first.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/26 09:31 PM
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So many men. You ladies are going after the same few men. Men wish we were running around town and breaking hearts but we're not. Its literally just the men women flock too in droves. Pick better.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/26 09:29 PM
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You had sex, no one used your body. If you wanted to not have your body "used" you would have gotten into a relationship and then slept with the guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/26 09:23 PM
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Nope, they'd be married and some would be incels. That's the cost of sex for most men. You can sleep with dozens of men who just wanted to use you for sex and then generalize that negative experience to all men. Stop, blaming the fact that your mom chose a loser of a man who abandoned you on all men.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/26 05:13 PM
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Because not all women deserve a rich man. Not all women are worth the same "price" so to speak. No one's complaining if Jennifer Lawrence says she wants to date a millionaire. People are if 200 lbs 5'2 Jenny and Keisha are.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/26 10:46 PM
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They are. Its what marriage is. Women (usually) want the baby as well as the man so they choose a man who makes a little more than them and can care for both them and the baby. The government is just an aggregate of our taxes from our labor. Marriage essentially compensates women for labor by giving you half of the man you can bag's resources.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/26 10:06 PM
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Men also become particular if they're forced to take over everything in the house. Putting the cart before the horse there aren't we. But regardless, women aren't being forced to do anything. A lot are just neurotic and given they marry men that make more than them in average. The person staying home is going to by default fall to the woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/26 02:10 AM
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As long as you dont make it your partners problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/26 02:08 AM
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A relationship every year almost if we average. Hope you worked through whatever you needed to before marriage
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/26 01:56 AM
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Agree it should be between the last two. " Open to sex with a stranger after a few dates". Last one should "open to sex with strangers NSA/first date"
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/26 01:55 AM
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assign and explain to the man tasks instead of the man assuming any responsibility. Understand thought, that women like things a very particular way. If you want something done particularly and not generally then yes you're either going to be doing it yourself or dictating how it gets done.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/26 03:36 PM
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There is no evidence that you'll be more attractive though. It is a subtle contract because its a call to action for men to be more progressive or women wont date them/ women date guys that are more progressive.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/26 05:35 AM
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he’s literally saying if women ARENT meeting these expectations of They're not contingent on each other. He's saying that he wants to abolish all contracts but feminists make the distinction between male and female contracts and want to preserve the male ones. he’s literally saying if women ARENT meeting these expectations of sex then they need to like make it clearer Right but they're not contingent. He's making a post hoc analysis of how come male covert contracts are left behind but female on…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/26 05:32 AM
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The refusal to give sex just because some guy paid for dinner is a rejection of a covert contract. Correct, this is what OP and I both believe. The issue is that expecting men to pay is also a covert contract. Feminists don't fight at all to remove that contract but fight to remove a woman reciprocating any intimacy. You dont understand what youre arguing do you? in order to reject the covert contract, women must insist on 50-50.* No they're not contingent upon each other. The outcome is what we…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/26 05:22 AM
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he’s gonna get laid is the definition of a covert contract. Yes i know, that's the point OP was making. He doesn't agree with it though. You're not paying attention. Re-read the post. Ill ask again how is OP imposing the idea of a covert contract?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/26 05:11 AM
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And the insane part is that rainn knows what its doing. The sources on their studies are from 1998. Its such a disgusting way to pit men and women against each other and it works because you look like an asshole to even try to question that women raped men at somewhat comparable rates.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/26 04:08 AM
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Its a covert complex in the sense that it subtly impresses upon men that if they follow liberal politics they'll be more likely to get a girlfriend. The covert contract is vote for x policy or person and you'll get some ass. Don't and you wont.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/26 04:04 AM
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the examples you pose are you pushing covert contracts onto others and not vice versa. He's giving examples of covert contracts and saying there shouldn't be an expectation of men paying or women giving men intimacy. Feminists rightfully disagree with the latter but are silent about the former. If people dont owe you shit then they dont owe you shit across the board. How is he emphasizing a covert contract by just saying this shouldn't be the case.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/26 04:00 AM
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believes women can't rape men". I know but Mary p koss did say that women can't rape men. Im bringing this up because feminists say that rape and dv is a tool that men use to oppress women. So you'll hear them talk about men raping women and we need to teach men not to rape. And 98 percent of rapist are men. But never bring up that those stats are acquired because we dont consider a woman drugging or coercing a man and putting his penis inside her as rape.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/26 11:02 PM
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I'd actually just love it if you could show any prominent feminists who would even say that women can rape men. These aren't fringes, this is the movement.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/26 10:06 PM
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I give feminists no credit for making the definition gender neutral. The woman in charge of that Mary p koss. Believes that women cannot rape men. The FBI definition reflects this bias by defining rape as penetration and not also envelopement. I can provide the proof of her denying that women can rape men if anyone needs it.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/26 09:15 PM
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all men are evil rapists I mean you literally don't understand it. If you said that all men have the capability of rape i'd understand. On top of that its a different scenario, rape, (unless you're fucked by a billionaire apparently) is punished by law. You getting divorced raped is encouraged by law. Not the same thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/26 01:56 PM
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Im actually baffled at how y'all get tripped up by this. AWALT is all guns are loaded.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/26 01:46 PM
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We can acknowledge that and still believe men still shouldn't deal with insane women.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/26 01:42 PM
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Maybe they should. Marriage rates are going down and married people are funding these single mother families. Lets use that money to support married families instead. I want to produce tax payers not dependents.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/26 06:44 PM
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Ok I changed my comment from can to can't wanna answer that.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/26 11:19 AM
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*can't
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/26 11:17 AM
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We're not talking about child abuse. Children can't leave or form relationship with adults. Its always hilarious when women are confronted with accountability they want to default to "what about Children". You're not a child. You're qn adult grow up. Edit: can't
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/26 11:00 AM
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Then they can be the primary parent,*** if this is what you allege is true. How does he work? On top of that, this assume that women want the gravy train to stop. Why would they let him become primary parent?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/26 06:36 AM
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Children do need dads though. So I dont understand Why you'd bring a kid into the world knowing partially that he's unloved. Stop making a baby for a check.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/26 06:34 AM
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This is not "half the assets" for most people who don't marry super young. Given that women marry around 30. You're catching a man entering the peak of his career. So yes its almost half the assets. Unless you want his allowance money when he was a kid. Or all the money he makes for the rest of his life.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/26 06:33 AM
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Even a "committed man" will change his tune if the relationship ends. Press x for doubt. Men want to care for their children. They dont want to pay for the mom's lifestyle. Make a cap on child support and restrict it to items that a child would need and you'd have no issues with men paying. For the married men, women are complaining that they aren't paying enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/26 06:30 AM
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I think this is coming sooner or later. I dont see why men are going to keep paying for women's bad decisions.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/26 06:27 AM
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Be honest there were signs, people just ignore them.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/26 04:05 AM
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Because you guys usually tell that to women who have been abused and/or left single moms with zero evidence she knew this would happen. We'd tell it to men as well. Christian Coleman sh'carri Richardsons boyfriend. Should have chosen better. Even when he forgave her, people still blamed him for setting her off. Men can't win, thats ok though. Just need to admit it and keep moving.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/26 04:04 AM
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I disagree, it discentevizes women from choosing some dead beat with the though in mind that she's going to get child support. The only thing left would be to limit government assistance some how. How do you feel about prospectively taking away assistance from them. So prospective means starting let's say in a year, all women who gave birth out of wedlock from 2027 and onward would only get half the government assistance they would have. If its confusing look up what a prospective law is.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/26 10:35 PM
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They were and my guess is that married fathers are less likely to abandoned their kids.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/26 10:29 PM
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Men here also routinely ignore the fact that divorced men also are often obligated to pay child support for children they completely and voluntarily made. As a married women you get better protections. Half the assets split from a man who is generally making more than you is not a bad golden parachute. However, yes you need to be careful with who you marry as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/26 10:26 PM
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Im at the point where I do think we need to at least limit child support as a disincentive. Even as a lib I hope the republican shutdown would show women that they're entire lives rest upon the whims of a very capricious gov't
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/26 10:23 PM
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Is that what I said? My argument is that if you want a man to stay. Choose a man who wants a baby with you. The best you can get in the alternative situation is a man that pays his child support but hates you and your child and never visits.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/26 10:21 PM
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I think women having babies with men who dont want them does that. If he doesn't commit to you, he won't commit to your baby.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/26 04:53 PM
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What? Gay men have more sex than gay women. Why do you think that is?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/26 04:49 PM
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I think they're claiming its lower than men. Not saying that its pathologically low like these studies are treating. There are multiple reasons for low libido and T is just one of them. Hell even low E might be a problem. I hope that women get their hormonal profile assessed while young do that they can optimize it by the time premenopause comes.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/26 02:25 PM
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These studies are in populations with already low sexual desire. That may be caused by something else like depression.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/26 01:34 PM
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Im talking about women at large here.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/26 12:33 AM
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Ok so is animated porn or AI porn an equivalent to book related porn? Are those equivalent?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/26 12:54 PM
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League defined by who you can attract Somewhat correct. But for women its defined by who you can get to stay. A guy using you as a fleshlight for a night doesn't mean thats your league. I guess for men and women, its who you can get into a relationship with. Not situationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/26 12:44 PM
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Just treat them like humans and act like a decent human being This is an empty platitude. We do treat humans differently. You treat your parents differently from every other human being on the planet. A woman who wants to be your girlfriend, quite rightfully she expects better treatment than the average human being. I never want to hear this asinine phrase again.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/26 01:08 PM
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Hey as long as you're consistent im ladies number on advocate for waiting for sex. We just both know that y'all give it up faster to men you do like. That's why men wont stand by and wait.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/26 05:08 AM
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Ops statement relies on a misinterpretation of what men are saying. Im clarifying that. Consistent treatment is what men are good with.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/26 04:36 AM
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This is being explained and you can't see it. Men should be consistent just like the women im describing. If a man was wining and dining skanks while stiffing good girls you'd make a good point. For me personally just make sure a girl likes you for you before spending on her. It could mean she has sex with you on the third date then you spoil her. That should be pretty simple. Consistency across the board. Men have never said not having sex with a man you just met is a punishment in it of itself…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/26 04:30 AM
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No, once again men absolutely sympathize with women who have standards. A woman who wants to save herself for marriage may not be my cup of tea but I absolutely respect her choice. The woman who doesn't sleep with anyone without three dates is also fine. Men just know there are women who'll get plowed behind the dumpster and the come 30, try to find a guy and make him wait because she's "healed her trauma". The logic isn't the same when you look at the context.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/26 03:53 AM
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You can. but if you treat me different to the guy you fucked behind the dumpster expect me to treat you differently from the consistent woman with a three date standard. Seems fair right?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/26 03:49 AM
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Men have zero problem with women who have a consistent standard of waiting for sex with guys. They just aren't going to wait for a woman who just took it behind the Macdonalds dumpster for her last guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/26 02:21 AM
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Once a kid is born, Once again we're talking about termination of a contract before the child is born. That way the mother has an opportunity to abort or do anything she needs to but the responsibility shouldn't be on the raped father. If we can't agree on this then as a liberal man I dont see any reason to defend women's bodily autonomy if they won't defend mine.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/26 06:39 AM
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That slogan is about abortion and bodily autonomy, not about opting out after a child exists. Ok should men who are raped by women be able to opt out? If this is about bodily autonomy. It would follow that the man's bodily autonomy was violated and he shouldn't have to further pay after being violated.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/26 01:32 AM
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True. And women get raped by men. But that's not the topic we're discussing here. We're discussing consent to be a parent. If a man is raped by a woman and there's proof why shouldn't he be able to terminate his childcare obligations?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/26 01:27 AM
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Drew afuolo says that men are inherently evil and need to prove that they're not. What do you mean like Andrew Tate though?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/26 02:27 PM
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basic Yeah I think this only works on women. I wasn't brought up on messages being told im a queen and a boss. Basic is good, im happy you think that.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/26 09:00 PM
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No i think I pride myself on not conforming to a sick societies definition of "good". Why not just go ahead and call me a mysoginist for disagreeing with you.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/26 02:08 PM
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Wouldn't the not all men be a response to a general blanket statement to men. So how is that a double standard. Even your own example falls on its face. Anyhow, the comment below me answered it better than I could. Men make generalizations on large minorities or majorities of women. Women choose scumbags and then start saying they hate men.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/26 04:09 PM
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I already dont give a shit im asking why the discrepancy exists. On a social level.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/26 06:14 AM
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Ok id love of this was reciprocated. Women can have 6'6 minimum height as a standard. I have no problem with it but why is does men having the standard of healthy weight seen as objectification and toxic? I dont mind people having even absurd standards im just wondering why there's backlash on one side only. The only criticism men really give height is that women should stop complaining they can't find a 6 foot 3 man. No shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/26 04:29 AM
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Women are hypergamous. If losers leave the country the new losers are the men just above them on the totem pole. I guess this is why I see both men and women shaming this. Subconsciously, both blue pill men and women think its "cheating " in the dating game.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/26 07:27 AM
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The point is that he doesn't find you unattractive if you couldn't. Also men just find women hot as a rule.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/26 04:24 AM
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that makes the behavior not innate. The particular behavior isn't innate. The drive to conform in order to be desired by the people we like is. We're a social species and one that wants to reproduce into the future (broadly speaking). So we're attuned and want to be liked by the people we like. primarily like that women are not the beneficiaries of patriarchy This is just a virtue signal. Your mind doesn't innately know what patriarchy is. Its a concept that had to be thought to you. You see thi…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/26 04:14 AM
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people gravitate towards the roles they like. Why do trans people usually gravitate to rolls that "confirm" the gender they want to be? In the case of trans women, higher pitched voices, long hair, and generally feminine clothing? I don't doubt that some people go do something else but why do most Trans people embody the stereotypical attributes of the gender they want to be.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/26 03:34 AM
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Ah, I'll stop you right there and give you time to look at the heart in my pfp. Im using the plural you're and not the personal. It still applies to women and relates to my question on innate sexuality. If sexuality is innate then you must agree that there are things that you like about women over men on an innate level. Some of these traits are physical but others are in how men and women behave. Understand that straight women have these innate desires as well and gender roles are just us tryin…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/26 03:30 AM
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damn, didn’t realize I lost the right to talk about gender roles by being trans lol - You can talk about them just don't start criticizing them and saying they're enforced when you willingly try to conform the women's gender roles in action and form. I think its fine if you do. Just don't be a hypocrite. And here is the thing, what “is” right now is the man is seen as the protector and the woman isn’t. Do you believe that at least some parts on sexuality are innate?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/26 03:23 AM
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Okay, what response could I have possibly given for you to not think I'm lying? One that doesn't fly in the face of reality. If Your a woman with an attraction to men. You're attracted to the average differences that men exhibit compared to women. Saying And what else would it be but misogyny if your first response is to accuse women of lying I didn't read your tag when I answered your post first. Maybe I'm just a disagreeable asshole. Why do you immediately skip to your sex being the reason im …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/26 03:19 AM
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acts as an excuse to enforce gender Gender roles shouldn't be "enforced". They dont need to be they're natural predelictions between men and women. Trans people especially can't critique gender roles and their enforcement and the go on to adopt and emulated those rolls when they want to pass. This shouldn’t be gendered no Im not talking about should or ought, im talking about is.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/26 03:13 AM
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What plastic? That was a real knife. And she’s a real human with a life. The phone, pay attention. This is why men need to be protectors. Y'all dont understand danger. If she let's go of her phone. The guy runs away and both are safe. What she did endangered not only her but her partner and those 10 other men. Nope, because it was a man that attacked her So what, 10 other men swarmed in to protect her. Not to mention when there are natural disasters. Men are usually the first on the seen protect…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/26 03:09 AM
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You are lying. People who are telling the truth dont deflect by calling someone a mysoginst. I originally said you're lying because we all have gendered expectations of the opposite sex. Feminists call it internalized patriarchy, others call it biology. Are you someone that believes that sexuality is at least partially innate?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/26 03:05 AM
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Sounds like something men need to examine then. No, men and women can be attracted to different things and thats a wonderful thing. It doesn't need to be "looked at" or pathologized it needs to be embraced. Also, saving or helping your partner isn’t about “attractive” - it’s about protecting your partner lol Im stating that women find it attractive when men protect them. Fire fighters have a profession that is attractive to women because they save people from danger. Men dont really swoon over f…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/26 03:02 AM
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An accurate one, nonetheless
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/26 02:55 AM
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Its just harder to feel sexual feelings towards someone after coffee than in a well lit chic restaurant with drinks flowing. Hahaha, now this is a psyop. Women know when they want to sleep with you from the nature of your conversational and you looks. You throwing money at a chic restaurant just let's her know youre a walking wallet.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/26 02:26 AM
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We’re y’all fucked up is branding yourselves as “protectors” (when you’re CLEARLY not), lol. Protectors of life, not objects. Give up your phone. Im not dying for 500 dollars plastic. On top of that men still ended up protecting her. So the branding is accurate.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/26 02:20 AM
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expect any partner to protect their partner in instances like this - gender doesn't matter. I BS, you don't expect her to protect him if he's getting attacked. This is gendered and you absolutely do not feel a need to protect men from danger. Inversely, you do expect men to protect you. Its ok to say that. Men and women having different expectations. If you do expect partners to protect each other. Would you agree that letting go of the phone the robber was trying to take would be her best way t…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/26 02:17 AM
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shouldn’t be a gendered thing). It is though. Men dont find it attractive when a woman dives in to save them from danger. Women do. At the very least a man doesn't become unattracted to a woman if she can't protect him.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/26 02:10 AM
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she delayed the robbers long enough for two random men who don't even know her to help No he shouldn't she held onto the phone in her hand when she could have released it. She put her life and her partners life on danger. Is your life worth a 1000 dollar phone? Let it go and call the police, if that guy had intervened he's seen as a bigger threat and would have been stabbed. He should defend her if her life is in danger but not if her property is getting stolen.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/26 02:06 AM
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The top 10 percent composes mostly of men though.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/26 02:01 AM
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Jeez desperate much. I think the BP needs to realize that before RP there was pick up artistry. The guy in the TikTok is indeed confirming a lot of red pill talking points. We're at the "i did it but i its good that I did" part of the narcissists prayer.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/26 01:56 AM
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This is like saying "there are so many jobs out there with so many skills required its impossible to give high schoolers advice". Women want to think of dating as this impenetrable black box that's so mysterious but we can and should generalize about what gets you a date.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/26 11:53 PM
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I do understand the word rate and you're confused. You're thinking that she said that black people kill less per capital than white people. That would be false. However she's saying that when white people they mostly kill their own. The same is true for white people (all people really). Just read a bit closer.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/25 09:27 PM
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I can't believe you dont know this. Its the FBIs crime report. You can just AI the answer. It is true.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/25 05:08 PM
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hates them - again, is he hurting his chances? No, his chances aren't dictated by hatred of women. They're dictated my him being unattractive (read ugly or akward). Being a nysoginist might even help him accordingly to this study. https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC11735252/#:~:text=In term of the interpersonal,successful in relationships with women.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/25 02:25 PM
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Yeah but the greater point was how women incentivize and disincentivize men to work.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/25 02:21 PM
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There's a reason charities had to start focusing on women Charities focus on women (read mothers) because the benefits trickle down to their family. Men can be single and giving them money doesn't necessarily produce that effect. Men that are fathers for the most part dont need help. By being violent and destructive To make an omelet you need to break some eggs. Society is built on destruction and so is nature at large. Cry about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/25 11:43 PM
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Do you both think the “lonely” “incel” guys are mostly comprised of the men doing difficult manual labor? No, but they dont have to be for this theory to play out. Divorcing men who are busting their ass and giving their all also produces the same effect of men not working because there's no incentive.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/25 11:39 PM
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Im trying to counter the idea that "immoral" people are more likely to be lonely which is what I responded to. The idea that mysoginistic men dont get laid isn't true. Do you agree or disagree?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/25 11:37 PM
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Or women's morals go out the window for guys they like who have things they like. The point is that you need to be attractive to women. Mysoginy isn't relevant , especially with how its defined now. Everything is Mysoginy
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/25 08:51 PM
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https://www.mindlessmag.com/post/womens-bodies-in-video-games There are several articles just like this I can spam you with more or you can just look up body positivity in video games. Women care about seeing fatties in games.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/25 08:49 PM
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You really think the lonely awkward man becoming hostile towards women he interacts with isn't hurting his chances further I think youre reversing the causality. Men who are too ugly and awkward to date become misogynistic. Misogyny (which isn't just hostility to women, you all call everything mysoginy) has very little to do with it. In fact plenty of women love the degradation in the context of sex on top of benevolent misogyny in the form of seeing women as victims. Misogyny is at worst neutra…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/25 08:44 PM
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Men didn't break the social contracts. Its only been very recently that all men could vote and this was given at cost of being drafted in case of war. The reason for the voting age being lowered to 18 was because the Vietnam war drafted young men but didn't allow them to vote. The daughters and wives you were talking about didn't want voting if it came with these stipulations. They didn't want to work in back breaking conditions that men were subjected to.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/25 08:37 PM
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These are just too rare to draw conclusions about the population at large though.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/25 08:11 PM
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Can we kill the idea that multiple factors don't interact Why dont you bring this up when talking about misogynistic men not getting laid. Is he ugly, broke or autistic. Im guessing that a much bigger factor than misogyny. When may actually even prefer misogynistic men if he treats her well and you add in benevolent sexism/misogyny. point is that misogyny wont make or keep you lonely other things will as you've inadvertently proved. Played yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/25 08:09 PM
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You said no one cared about women being fat in video games. Stop moving the goal post. If you want more look at the entire discourse on "realistic " women in comics and video games.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/25 05:59 PM
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I dont think many women do. They assume men will just "be better" forever and with no incentive. We see the guys getting laid its not because they're moral people or hard workers.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/25 05:56 PM
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That makes it even worst. Women still go after this guy. Please shut up about misogyny when all your stories are "my boyfriend is so misogynistic " "my fuck buddy is so misogynistic". Y'all are dating these guys they aren't lonely.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/25 05:54 PM
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True, men don't usually make it everyone's problem. They usually just delete.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/25 05:31 PM
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men are angry that hating women leads to the consequence of loneliness, I Can we kill this myth. Misogynistic men don't have a shortage of women. Donald Trump has been married 3 times and some here would consider him the most misogynistic man in us history.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/25 05:27 PM
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Men also have a penchant for solving most of societies problems. Whether they're natural or man-made
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/25 05:23 PM
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Yup, 10 percent of women have no close friends. While 15 percent of men have no close friends. Women shit on men and say the deserve it but can't look internally and societally at what's going on
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/25 05:19 PM
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I think ultimately people don't understand that men do extra work and hard work in society in the hopes of earning enough for a family and partner. If society tells men that you're not going to get these things for whatever reason, then why should they do dirty and long hours. What is the incentive? I think we as a society have gotten so comfortable and used to seeing men put in these hours that we assume its natural and men just want to do it. Its not a threat its a natural consequence.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/25 05:09 PM
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Ok let's take straight people out of the equation. Why do lesbian women divorce more than gay men.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/25 12:52 AM
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Got em. This is an excellent way to put women's preferences right in front of their faces.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/25 11:26 PM
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Looks money status. Any day of the week. This is why I think no pillers are some how worse than blue pilllers
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/25 11:23 PM
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Women aren’t mad that women in video games are skinny dude… 1.https://bulimia.com/examine/video-games-realistic-body-types/
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/25 09:31 PM
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Are these the same video games with unrealistic depictions of men? Its not like men are playing as fat slobs.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/25 01:57 PM
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If she wont do it as a gf, she wont do it as a wife. If she pulls this up just say that paying for dates is a husband activity.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/25 07:03 PM
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Great, glad im seeing less women pretend that they ever cared about them and it wasn't just a covert form of mate sabotage.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/25 05:02 AM
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Because, you got caught slut shaming and it feels uncomfortable. So now you want to ignore it.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/25 04:44 AM
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If it can't be known how are you so sure that consensual sex didn't rise to replace it. Youd need to know what fraction was rape and what was consensual.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/25 12:59 AM
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Men who were raping are being taken out of the equation Out of the total sex had say in 1990s vs now how much do you, respectively, think was rape. And no not the number of women who've ever been raped but every single sexual encounter. How much was rape?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/25 12:44 AM
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Yes being a slut is sexual behavior. The word hypersexual shares the same connotation and fact that its sexual behavior.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/25 07:00 AM
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No, doesn't hypersexual mean an excessive amount of sex or sexual thoughts.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/25 06:31 PM
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Good bait windmill. Always fun chatting with you.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/25 02:39 PM
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hypersexual That sounds like a coded word for slut.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/25 02:05 PM
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Bullshit, they're fully consenting and any ramifications are usually mitigated by the fact that they're usually covering their face. Tell me what actually is morally wrong about an 18 year old having a one night NSA with a person who's I believe 24.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/25 01:48 PM
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threatened Am I also threatened by our society to get a job and follow the law. Could you have an ostensibly coercive element in society and still want to and consent to engaging in the activities that people are "threatening" you with. why does it matter if you lived your youth thinking that? Just so you could get used to the idea of the oppression so it wouldn’t feel as bad? Consent is informed by morals and upbringing. I also added it just to make it an analogous scenario. ll the correspondin…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/25 09:27 PM
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Fear of being accused of sexual assault may be a large reasons why YOU don't drink, but that reason isn't seen as a significant one by many. The woman im responding to specifically said that people aren't getting drunk and having sex. So I responded, in part is that do to a campaign to say drunk sex is rape. Your study doesn't address this question at all so why post it?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/25 09:22 PM
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Maybe we are moving in different online circles (and have different algorythms) and different countries? I'm aware of increasing the tax on alcohol, showing videos how drunkards behave, You're a citizen of the internet? You're dodging and pretending that you didn't here that drunk sex is rape. Throughout all social media. You can look it up on reddit right now.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/25 07:21 PM
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does that mean the marriage was consensual? 1.) Yes if Im not threatened by any one else into marrying. 2.) A better analogy would be if I lived my entire youth with that idea and then got married. I'd still say yes. You have less rights compared to 50% of the population now. Is there corresponding social privileges that I get. Like women pay for dates? Also what time period are we going to hypothetically, 1960s and " women" can vote? The job example makes no sense, Can you answer my analogy sin…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/25 07:19 PM
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Its just incredible, its an actual example of internalized misogyny. Women say "hey guys dont do x, its bad" men comply and women see the outcome of what they've done. But they literally can't see that their own actions caused this consequence. Like they believe that men won't listen/shouldn't have listened to them because they're women. The lack of agency is baffling.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/25 09:16 AM
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There are campaigns against drinking in general, You're deflecting. Am I lying or are/were there campaigns and even posters saying drunk SEX (specifically) is rape? I can provide evidence if you need it. But let's argue in good faith. Was there not an explicit campaign saying that drunk sex in it of itself is RAPE
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/25 05:19 AM
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I’d say the majority of marriages in the past weren’t consensual On what evidence? This is like saying that because people in the past didn't have the choice of having the internet. They were less happy. Its a biased toward the modern. In 30 years can women in the future say that you're not happy now because you dont have the choice of a perfect robot boyfriend? I consensual, but rather out of necessity. You dont understand what consent is. I still consent to going to my job. However, I need to …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/25 04:17 AM
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But this assumes that the men who were raping are having less sex and thats driving the decrease. More so than other men that is. There's really no reason to believe this.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/25 11:31 PM
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I think you could have worded that better point. Is that legal beneficial sex has gone down. Rape was thankfully never a large fraction of the interiors being had. Yes a percentage of women have been assaulted but most of the sex that those women have isn't assault.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/25 11:28 PM
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lol what? Sex is down because fewer women are being forced or coerced into sex they don’t want to have So is the increase in female loneliness, by this logic, because women were forcing others to conversate with them?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/25 10:50 PM
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There is also the thing that youth nowadays tends to get drunk or use other inhibition lowering substances less. Can you admit that in part this is due to a campaign to classify all drunk sex as rape. Can you admit that its spearheaded by 4th wave feminists movements?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/25 10:48 PM
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Their not necessarily tied. This is like saying there will be less drugs overall if we reduce illegal drugs. Whatever, measure were implementing to reduce illegal drugs, ideally, shouldn't effect the sale and distribution of safe and beneficial drugs.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/25 10:46 PM
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Ok but then we need to admit that verbalizing consent isn't ideal in every/ even mos scenarios. Feeling out the situation and not being autistic is the go to.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/25 10:40 PM
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This is idiotic, testetosterone is the driver in sexual behavior. I assure you men have a much higher peak the women.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/25 10:18 AM
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What you posted had a N ~ 3000 This is a massive study with a number that's more than generalized to the public. Why do idiots seem to think that higher number studies Above is a meta analysis looking at N ~1,000000 showing no significant gender differences in life satisfaction. Ok but is this as a function of marriage and singledom. Furthermore is this just amalgating old and young people or tracking them through time
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/25 08:04 AM
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Do you believe these peaks are the exact same in magnitude?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/25 07:59 AM
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The amount of sex you want to havr is almost inexhaustible. The amount of people you want to have sex with is finite.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/25 07:57 AM
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An unattractive introvert whose idea of fun is WarHammer? She's getting her DMs exploded. You ladies seem to think men and women have equal options for sex in this world. Fat chicks easily pull more hot guys than Henry cavill pulls hot women.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/25 07:55 AM
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Really, if your partner got into an accident and couldn't have sex. You'd end your relationship?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/25 12:58 AM
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Male hyperagency and female hypoagency. Its honestly so beyond misogynistic that I dont get why feminists support it.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/25 11:18 PM
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Yes, if there is a dead bedroom the societal norm is to blame men for that problem. Either he wants too much sex or he's not sexy enough or he's lacking in something. Men first fix anything that may be amiss in the the relationship. If that doesn't solve anything than what else is there left besides my wife doesn't want to sleep with me.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/25 11:13 PM
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Ill accept that both premises are true but the conclusion doesn't follow from them. Why would the two premises necessitate that women be in worse relationship. Why can't it be argued that women perceive negative stimuli more acutely, regardless of how much there truly is
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/25 11:08 PM
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The average age .... (2019) same sex marriage had been legal for 4 years at that time vs Legal at the time of what? Seriously use proper nouns. Fuck, is gen z or alpha this incompetent at communication? Also the first 5-10 years of marriage are the most vulnerable for divorce Then that pattern should have held for gay male-male marriages. This is still showing that women are still more unstable in that 5 to 10 years. Furthermore, this 5 or 10 years is irrelevant because we're looking at a group …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/25 09:50 AM
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Would you rather embarass yourself in front of someone you'll only see once and never again or in front of someone Yeah but that's not mitigated by making him wait. Two women don't need to be good at sex, just not completely awful. Three you can lie to me that's fine but given this week response im guessing you're understanding why a woman having different standards for men is a red flag for us. I mean seriously, I might embarrass myself so I'll wait to fuck you because I might be bad. Repeat it…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/25 09:41 AM
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To get to be in a long term relationship with her instead of being used as a casual fling and then thrown away by her. So my benefit is being an a long term relationship with a woman who views me as a second best option. Y'all wonder why men disrespect you. You give us no reason to treat you otherwise. Wanting to get to know a guy before sleeping with him is trying to build intimacy so the sex is more special and the relationship will last longer." Why would the sex be more special if you wait? …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/25 08:15 AM
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What? At the time of who posting what? Maybe use some proper nouns. You'll be less confused.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/25 07:22 AM
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100% true, you want to pretend that it can be any men. But murderers are fairly cut and dry and easy to predict. Just stop rubbing your pussy to convicted criminals and you'll be fine (not you of course, the women who do this).
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/25 06:18 AM
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Nonetheless, divorce sucks but I'm all for letting adults make the decision to divorce. Im for it too, but imagine you just left with the percentage you came in with. Marriage needs to be overhauled. Into a system that doesn't reward divestment. If you wanna leave a marriage thats great. Just leave with what you came with. Fair?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/25 05:01 AM
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No woman will overthink and ensure a happy situation turns bad. Then justify a divorce.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/25 04:28 AM
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A retired promiscuous woman? You're not worth a lot sweetie. We all know how that deal is going to go down. Listen I respect it. Turns out there might be a simp dumb enough to marry a "retired " promiscuous woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/25 04:26 AM
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No all it means is that you're horny enough to sleep with him and that he didn't creep you out. Again, not looking good for the guy you're making wait. You're not horny for him because.....? Life is risky and people take risks to have fun all the time. Yeah but women will bring up the risk argument to paint men as degenerates in another breath. Men sleep with women they don't respect too. Is that an uncharitable thing to say about men? The same thing. We just don't lie about it. Being respected …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/25 03:04 AM
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Oh ok, you still have time to take him for what he's worth then.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/25 02:59 AM
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Lol. Gosh. Sounds like real winners. Its the truth, now we just need something for moms. did when I got married. Who initiated the divorce?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/25 02:37 AM
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Please do
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/25 02:05 AM
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Look up how often people die from chocking on food. And then compare it to this "femicide". Y'all are do dramatic. On top of that its because these women date criminals cheat on them and then get buried 6 feet. Not saying its ok but let's stop pretending there's an abundance of well to do suburban lawyers killing their wives with a kitchen knife. Its the criminals women gets their pussies wet for.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/25 02:04 AM
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The rate is almost double for women “According to the CDC, 1 in 4 women and 1 in 7 men will experience Men are well known to report less than women. A man gets pushed in an argument and walks it off. A woman writes a best selling novel about abuse.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/25 02:00 AM
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Not advice. Mansplaing. That means its like gold. You better listen to it
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/25 01:58 AM
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This is as big of a ragebait troll as he needs to be 6'4. Relax buddy. Most people aren't virgins when married.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/25 01:57 AM
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And yet the blame is still placed on the man by the man. Women just take less agency over their lives. Very external locus of control.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/25 01:41 AM
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Better men are chosen by women to get married. Its not causal. I can show you some convincing evidence if you want.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/25 01:38 AM
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You're speaking about a made up relationship. This isn't happening on some grand conspiracy level. Lol, you're doing what OP is accusing you of doing. You can't take a second a realize that maybe women themselves have something to do with the termination of their marriage. That's not to say men don't. Nobody said that
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/25 01:35 AM
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Why are y'all so afraid of divorce? Please put up half your networth on a whim against a person who can divorce you at any point. Marriage is tool used so that fathers wouldn't abandoned their families. The disincentive is taking away money from him. If women had a similar one you'd see less divorce too. It would still be high because of neuroticism but lower.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/25 01:33 AM
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Lesbians aren't women, they're Lesbians. Ill let the lesbians be offended at that one. However, is the key difference between straight and lesbian relationship that would cause more divorce in lesbian marriages? There's a study out of Finland that controls for a lot of these factors.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/25 01:28 AM
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I think she's saying even if there's an equal amount of bad relationships in lesbian, straight, and gay relationship. Women are just less likely to stay in a bad relationship. This might be true but we should also acknowledge that most of these divorces aren't because of fault. If women are more likely to divorce because of nothing the point still stands.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/25 01:24 AM
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Two thirds being exclusively women still gets us 30% lesbian abuse rates. Compared to 35% among straight women. The remaining is not necessarily because of men by themselves, it could be two women beating up one lesbian women or a man and a woman or indeed just a man. The point is I would have thought if men were the biggest bullies on the block. You'd see a bigger difference than 5%.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/25 01:16 AM
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That's enough time for 10 lesbians divorces and marriages. Lol, seriously though, there are other countries and states that allowed marriage before obergefell. Massachusetts has it at 15 years. Even 10 years is enough to see a trend, especially when compared with gay men.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/25 01:09 AM
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You can do that, have fun.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/25 01:06 AM
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Why do men think they deserve Chad like privileges without looking and acting like Chad? Tell this to the women saying its not that she things you're not attractive its because she values you more. Lol. We know Chad gets benefits, its pulling teeth to get women to admit it.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/25 01:01 AM
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Sex is an act that can be dangerous for women, bringing a guy you dont know to your place or his place, pregnancy, grape etc. If you're giving that to a man on the first date your actions tell men that you think its worth the risk. What you say doesn't matter your actions do. You're telling me that you respect him enough to fuck him. On top of this. Let's just say its true and you have sex with men you dont respect. Do you think that's more charitable to women? And what's the incentives for men …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/25 12:56 AM
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They're saying its not the only thing that matters. Keep up.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/25 12:41 AM
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True but so does hugging and kissing. Would you want to be in a relationship with someone who said he doesn't kiss his partners. Someone who doesn't hug them?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/25 12:39 AM
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https://www.tiktok.com/@dearmedia/video/7501427755431611679?lang=en Just tackles misogynistic men right? Normal men are left alone.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/25 11:31 PM
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Again all I’ve ever seen drew do is make fun of men who have posted misogynistic content. She said that men are intrinsically evil. I can provide the clip if you'll say you're wrong. I’m not a fan of hers Why? If all she does is take on misogynistic men. That seems like someone we should all be at least neutral too if not openly in favor of.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/25 11:28 PM
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spectrum. Most women are gonna be on Instagram or TikTok Ok how many subs and books does Drew afualo sell? And if you're going to talk about TikTok, than any large female creator apologize?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/25 11:05 PM
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There are entire think pieces and even governments calling for Andrew Tate to stop radacalizing young men and he has way less. Two and drew afualo openly spew bile to women about men and mums the word. Women will bring up incel deaths but these guys may be equally radicalized by the bile the see women spew.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/25 11:03 PM
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The post is that women wont call her out. Got to any female subreddit that talked about the story and check to see if they've corrected any narratives. Go ahead, I genuinely want to be proven wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/25 10:35 PM
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Point some out
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/25 05:47 PM
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Agree with most of what you said. Buy the movement is dead because of Ozempic. Not because women changed their attitude.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/25 04:47 PM
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There's an entire beauty at any size campaign for fat women. None exists for short men. A lot more hate goes to male preference
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/25 03:36 PM
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Sure, let's see some evidence
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/25 03:35 PM
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Stop victim blaming. He's drunk, he's free from any responsibility.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/25 03:35 PM
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Are we victim blaming? OP should be allowed to drink as much as he wants and lay out in a gutter without fear of being touched.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/25 02:34 PM
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I've actually never seen a woman attacked for preferring taller men. I could understand her being criticized if she was looking for exclusively 6'4 and up guys. But the criticism is for expecting this guy to fall into her lap when she's an obese 5 foot 2.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/25 02:25 PM
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You said the book doesn't defend the theory well in your opinion so why would I assume she's a good source. Anyhow. From what I've briefly searched. The emotion of jealousy has both affect and valence. So why isn't it as natural derived as the other emotions you agreed on.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/25 08:52 PM
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Because there is no affect for jealousy. What's the evidenced for this claim. What's your source showing emotions like anger have affect but jealousy doesn't?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/25 02:23 PM
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Then this entire diatribe is a difference without a distinction. If affect is real. Why can't we talk about the biologically relevant part of jealousy?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/25 01:19 AM
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My point is this "I make more money than my husband " is women trying to pretend that they're marrying some part timer who does art on the side and she's taking care of his life. No, you're both high earners and 140k is too different from 150k. Especially if 140k is still performing the male roles. Have a wonderful marriage Tommy lahren but my point stands.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/25 05:49 PM
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You both still make good money and he's paying the bulk of the bills. Am I right?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/25 05:34 PM
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Emotions are socially constructed. In what sense? Chimps and monkeys feel disgust and jealousy. Why are humans emotions a social construct. Do you believe that there is anything that isn't a social construct?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/25 05:03 PM
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Oh ok. My bad
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/25 04:40 PM
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The feminine urge to not have your savings wrecked by inflation. If you want a conservative man so he can provide for you, just say that. But dont pretend he actually values you for your intelligence.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/25 04:38 PM
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Have you considered you dont have a girl because you dont have a spine and are willing to let people walk over you.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/25 04:32 PM
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I think she's a black woman. Not male
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/25 04:06 PM
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As liberal male it genuinely will be the death of the democratic party. Some of these girls need to be told to shut up and they aren't that special or smart.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/25 04:03 PM
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Not everything is about getting you wet. Some people like stable economies and good prices.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/25 04:02 PM
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one is asking you to hold men as a group accountable either. Yes they are, "men need to hold these men accountable" is literally a meme at this point. You hold single moms accountable fine, No, I just want them to stop blaming men in general for the problems they created with their choices. On top of that stop using societal resources for your dysfunctional family. you better also hold the other half of that equation-the deadbeat- equally accountable. No, as long as you dont woah as me cry about…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/25 03:47 PM
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Men are less likely to have children than women so this point is moot.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/25 03:37 PM
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Well the thing we can do in those cases is the bare minimum. Jail the women who do that. We jail deadbeat dad's because they're animals let's do the same to female rapists. Other than that, I agree take safety into your own hands.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/25 03:35 PM
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Im not holding women as a group accountable. The ones who dont have baby daddies and complain aren't implicated. Just the ones that do. And yes, if you complain about making the biggest mistake in your life and solely put it on the other party. I think you're almost as sub-human as your baby daddy.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/25 04:30 AM
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Werent you trying to collectively blame women for the actions of these men? No, just the women who fuck these guys and get pregnant by them. Just like your friends and family.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/25 10:11 PM
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The manosphere definitely doesnt. Lol I dont care what you want to do with the men who abandoned their kids. My issue is you making it a collective project for men. Most men under 50 aren't fathers. Most women are. Who do you think is choosing these guys. It's not a 1 to 1 male/female problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/25 10:07 PM
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Bad things will always happen in the world. We do things to mitigate them. Car accidents happen, I wear a seat belt to mitigate it, society makes laws to lower the probability but bad things happen. Ideally, what would you want men to say to deadbeat dad's? What could men honestly say to turn a degenerate who abandoned his kids? We believe they're incorrigible.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/25 10:04 PM
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What does walk away mean. Are they paying child support or sending money to their kids? Because right now im talking about deadbeats being dad's who dont monetarily provide for their kids.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/25 09:57 PM
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How does that change that they happen They'll happen less if you take basic precautions like tying the knot. Please ask your friends if they knew the income of their baby dad when they got together. There are more mothers than there are fathers, especially in communities that produce deadbeats and single moms. This means that women are choosing a portion of men that are dead beats.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/25 09:55 PM
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I dont have any kids Lilith. Blame the men who do and abandon them. That's personal accountability. Tell your friends and family to stop sleeping with broke men who won't marry them.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/25 09:51 PM
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Define deadbeat for me.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/25 09:49 PM
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Considering the fact that so many single moms We're not talking about single moms We're talking about deadbeat dad's. This is an irrelevant statement. Being a single mom doesn't necessarily mean you have a dead beat dad husband.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/25 09:47 PM
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If he isn't doing his part maybe dont fuck him. How is it this hard to understand. If a guy marries a stripper no one feels bad when she divorces him and steals his shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/25 09:42 PM
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Accountability is mostly about holding yourself accountable, we usually complain that women (some) aren't doing that.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/25 09:40 PM
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Contraception fails, the morning after pill fails. Oh please, these women are doing it raw for tyrone and Chad. They want these babies even if they're "unplanned"
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/25 09:36 PM
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If you had a gun to your head and had to pick who was a dead beat dad. Is it going to be 6 figure man or brokey down the block?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/25 09:34 PM
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It's rarer, especially financially. These broken homes aren't coming from communities with very high marriage rates. But " oooooh marriage is patriarchy.... I just need to spread it for a drug dealer".
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/25 09:32 PM
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No we believe these men are almost subhuman. They're not capable of understanding or empathy. So I dont understand how women keep choosing them. People aren't swayed by speeches and "accountability". Their need to be incentives. Sex is an incredible incentive for men, ladies please dont give it out to men who aren't shit. Shame women who do. This is why society invented slut shaming. The negative incentive against women who do this needs to be ostracism by other women
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/25 09:27 PM
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Thank you. If you have power in a situation you also have responsibility. If women want absolute power over life coming into this world. They need to take absolute responsibility.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/25 09:20 PM
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the women knew the man was just gonna walk away, t It's not like these men were responsible citizens in the first place. If he wasn't going to marry you he's more likely to leave your kid. On top of this, these guys are usually broke and have a record. Men in the system who are productive members of society will get their wages garnished if they dont pay child support. Dead beats who can't keep a job will never be held accountable because the money it takes to wrangle them is more than the child…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/25 09:18 PM
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College basketball teams are NOT that short lol College basketball players are ears deep in College cheer leader pussy. Not 45 year old pseudo lesbians. Moldovans aren't gunning for obese American women, no country of men is. Im sorry but you guys are thinking of a fantasy. Men leaving for the Phillipines is current reality.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/25 05:55 AM
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No im happy we can get this out especially the men in their 20's thing. The age gap relationship being predatory argument can finally be laid to rest. It's just old or ugly women afraid of their option getting with younger women. Also men from poor countries, suddenly we're pro "exploitation". I actually love this men are more than happy to do this oversees. Also the 6'6 thing is just hyperbole. You're going to be fucking 6 foot + guys to get your rocks off. The lesbian commune is going to be do…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/25 04:10 AM
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Oh we already know women make exceptions for hot guys. Don't lie to yourself 6 foot 1 every week is what these "political lesbians" are going to go for. Until they hate the women they're around and just jump into the pool again. Gay marriage was the best thing that could happen to straights. We can finally see divorce rates for what they are now
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/25 03:54 AM
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Again that is women with low self worth Im sorry but straight women who are building a lesbian commune just to avoid dealing with the fact that their dating woes are their own fault, dont scream emotional security. Also are you saying that lesbians are insecure. What explains their astronomical divorce rates.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/25 01:41 AM
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You're forgetting that women also hate other women. This whole gender war is just women outside of relationships trying to make relationships look worst for women in them. Look at lesbian divorce rates to see how this will turn out.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/25 01:31 AM
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It's aged matched. Life expectancy is how long you're expected to live in total. Widows having life expectancy is a significant blow to the argument that they're thriving. Check out single women too.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/25 01:16 AM
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Awesome. I just wish we could choose where our tax dollars went so we could really put this to the test. But more of this attitude will eventually bring a candidate willing to execute on this.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/25 12:21 AM
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Lmao yes the man who worked in his office for a company that has been closed for 20 years 1.) You spoke about men of that generation in general and so did I. 2.) Too, men in cubicles were still burning the midnight oil to fund the tax system that let's you believe that men are useless. Pretty sure I’ve done more for society as a nurse Get checked out for that narcissism. No one is saying women dont do anything for society or you dont personally. We're explaining how men build a society that allo…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/25 11:53 PM
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I’ve met who expressed sadness over the loss of his wife. Yeah, men dont share their feelings with strangers as a general rule. Women are more likely to thrive because they have more connections. dear lord the sheer amount of elderly man who cannot even cook a grilled cheese sandwich is mind boggling!!), do their laundry, Yeah, older men broke their backs building the society you live comfortably in. They didn't learn domestic skills because that wasn't their role back then. Now that society nee…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/25 05:12 PM
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Ok can you guys please provide evidence that married women die sooner than non married women because im not sure the premise is even true. I've heard married people live longer both men and women however women get less benefit than married men. So MW>NMW>MM>NMM
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/25 04:33 PM
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Show us this statistic. It's not true
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/25 04:14 PM
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Either way, can you see how historically most societies eventually led to patriarchy that restricted women's rights. It might be where we're doing too.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/25 11:48 AM
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No one says you can't enjoy sex. Being a slut means screwing lots of people and that literally has consequences that are both physical and mental. On average of course.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/25 10:14 AM
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mean we have a case where this was looked at it found a range of 2 6 percent. No, once again this is the PROVEN rate of false reports. The PROVEN rate of people who commit rape is also similarly low. The rest of the allegations are UNKWOWN. So the data says nothing about how many rape allegations in total are true or false. So are you thinking that there are more false accusations based on feelings. No im reading data and seeing the word PROVEN there. If there are PROVEN cases of rape than there…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/25 04:13 AM
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Im not explaining away rape stats. The think be argued here is your use of 4 percent to imply that then its necessarily true that 96 percent of rapes are true. Im saying we dont know the true rate. Your stats are accurate, your interpretation is wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/25 04:04 AM
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Again, I dont care about the interpretation of what they said. They said "believe women" and I find that indistinguishable from believe all women. Putting a pretty bow around asinine phrases doesn't change their meaning. Believe means to accept as true. This is a motte and Bailey tactic. Ultimately the movement wanted the accusations of women to be taken at face value as true. If not legally than certainly socially.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/25 10:19 PM
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The part where they said believe women. What women are they talking about if not all?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/25 10:12 PM
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Where do I even imply that. Copy and paste it for us.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/25 10:06 PM
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Ok but that's not the word they chose to use. We can't rewrite the past because we don't like it.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/25 09:57 PM
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What is this overwhelming evidence showing? All I get from your comment is that you dont know how to interpret statistics.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/25 09:54 PM
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Yes, very few are found to be proven false. Very few are also proven to be true. That's the argument you fail to contend with. If want to use proof as a standard then apply it across the board. seems the only ones concerned about false accusations Not at all, I support the innocence project and am against the death penalty. Does that make more likely to murder someone.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/25 09:52 PM
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We dont know how many accusations are false. We know how many are proven to false. We also dont know how many accusations are true. We know how many are proven to be true
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/25 09:01 PM
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Research for the Home Office suggests that only 4% of cases of sexual violence reported to the UK police are found or suspected to be false. S People keep doing this and I almost believe its deliberate. 4 percent of cases being proven false doesn't mean that 96 percent are automatically accurate. By this same standard we could say that only 4 percent of SA perpetrators are proven guilty. So therefore 96 percent of women are lying. Neither are true. In England and Wales, more than 99% of rapes re…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/25 08:55 PM
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At this point, we're not getting anywhere. Have a nice night. Im trying to cordially sign off. Did you read my last comment. Nighty night.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/25 09:51 AM
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Thank you, this really made my night.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/25 09:37 AM
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Ok all of this misinterpreting my arguments let's me know you're too emotional to see them. Meaning you're probably defensive because you meet the criteria i laid above . Women like you are easy to spot. The men you want also see this, its why you're facing dating frustrations.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/25 09:35 AM
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Nah, my kink is people finding it and telling me about it. I also have a kink in noticing that when people are losing arguments they look at unrelated comments. Im eating good tonight.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/25 09:21 AM
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One, because most people dont have that many partners. Only the internet is a cesspool of virgins and extreme sluts. The median is 4 for women. Two, demographics, is she college educated her age (younger people have less partners). And the most important part is her friend group. I dont need an exact number. I just need a ball park of if you're a promiscuous person or not.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/25 08:11 AM
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Thank you. Yes this is what im implying.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/25 09:46 PM
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Attractive people tend to be more confident. We can't just ignore attraction because it makes us feel bad.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/25 08:20 PM
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No, you've been on the internet too long. Most people (95%) have sex before marriage. Men aren't looking for virgins in America. Just a reasonable number. The median for women if 4 partners. That's perfectly fine for me personally
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/25 05:16 AM
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Well why are you guys crying about bod counts then if they dont matter hm? In good faith. Don't you think there some middle ground between a Virgin and promiscuous woman? A non virgin woman could be a woman who's had 3 long term relationships and wants to get into an LTR with you. 99 percent of men aren't going to have any complaints about that.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/25 04:50 AM
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No, its not a crime because we dont criminalize it. Why is it that criticism seems like a bigger crime than actually going to jail.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/25 11:22 AM
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They're pretty rare, 7 million in a country of 270 million or so adult men. Y'all stay fucking losers. Edit: also non custodial women are less likely to pay child support do maybe those numbers are due to them?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/25 12:48 AM
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that are famous for using women for all their resources Those men are doing just fine. You complain about dating them so often, they're just making their rounds around your friend group. Responsible men who are financial and emotional stable are tucked though.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/25 11:38 PM
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Is this the gender famous for giving those men multiple kids and making sure deadbeats propagate into the future?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/25 09:00 PM
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I'm asking you to react like his action is actually more important than hers. It is, I think this organism should be in jail. But I dont think he's human enough to understand my words. So I instead talk to the human in the room." Why'd you sleep with a man who has the capability to abandon his kids".
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/25 08:42 PM
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I'm asking you to react like his action is actually more important than hers. It is, I think this organism should be in jail. But I dont think he's human enough to understand my words. So I instead talk to the human in the room." Why'd you sleep with a man who has the capability to abandon his kids".
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/25 08:42 PM
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Why are you fucking a guy who isn't married to you? Men hold other men accountable with jail and violence. You can't teach a deadbeat to be present for their kids. You have to avoid them. Marriage is an institution that's meant to ward of men who wont commit. Jail reinforces that institution. Women can't continue to blame men when we hold up our end of the bargain and you all coddle women who are obviously dating degenerates. Tell your female friends to marry before they carry or shut up.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/25 08:17 PM
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She is a single mom because of a deadbeat dad. Reaction there usually is "she is bad, she made bad decisions Men bother to even correct women because they assume they're sentient human beings that can be changed. There's a possibility that she got tricked so men are confronting someone who ostensibly can be reasoned with . What am I supposed to say to a man who knowingly abandons their child? Nothing, they're subhuman i dont think they're people. Most men think it's futile. The dark part of my m…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/25 08:12 PM
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You're not understanding. A man that for example abandons his kids. Is subhuman i dont correct them because In my eyes human beings don't abandon their kids and fuck a thousand women and have kids with them. In the darkest sense of the word I think men who do this are animals. Men dont think it's worth it to talk to these guys.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/25 07:31 PM
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You are so wrong on that. If a man dates an obvious red flag, you can be sure that a lot of people will remind him that he shouldn't have listen to his dick. Don't stick your dick in crazy is a male mantra for a reason. Men put their bad relationship on their shoulders all the time. Edit: I do agree with you BTW, not OP.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/25 06:00 PM
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No it's frequently enough that every woman has a friend like it whom they enable. Just making it clear. Also that's just the one messy enough to tell you. The rest of tge girls have a bit more tact
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/25 06:07 AM
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I wonder what it would be like to have a brain so small that it couldn't come up with anything intelligent to rebut with after several minutes.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/25 04:50 AM
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not* a source for their dating woes, though. It does if they're getting rejected at the profile pic stage. Blue pillers and women seem to think the problem with incels is that they're getting dates or short term relationship and then fumbling them by divulging their misogyny. The harsh truth is these guys are probably rejected at the gate.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/25 04:47 AM
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Maybe, but I'm willing to bet you know a friend who's excused and continues to excuse bad behavior from a guy who has looks money or status.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/25 04:45 AM
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Source? Don't need one, it a heuristic insult more than a factual claim. Women just need to admit that most of them would excuse and have excuse terrible behavior for LMS.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/25 04:43 AM
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Be specific. A source for what. To add, Melania could of lived a perfectly reasonable life with the money she made. She wanted more and I don't blame her. But we also need to be honest and admit many women would make the same decision if given the option.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/25 04:41 AM
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It's banal to the point of being useless. It's like saying some blonde guys have lost their chance with women. True but irrelevant. Her statement was made to imply that misogyny and the other traits are a source for these men's dating woes. Im saying that they arent.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/25 04:37 AM
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I guess we'll find out if this shutdown continues a bit longer.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/25 04:34 AM
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Im not saying it bad. Hell me saying that our biologies cause this like you said would have me labeled an incel. More and more I see blue pillers just repackaging red pill ideas and pretending it was there's all along.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/25 04:33 AM
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Are you ready to admit that red pillers were right and that women don't care about personality if you have Looks money or status. We could unite the pills right here.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/25 04:31 AM
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Doesn't change the fact that women want men with money. This dodge just tells me you agree.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/25 04:29 AM
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Women want resources from men. How they get it is irrelevant. in the mean time, they fucking random attractive men. I think they want to fuck random attractive men and that will happen to a large chunk of them. However, attractive men get their pick of attractive women.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/25 09:57 PM
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Trump is rich and powerful and therfore an exception. What but that's red pill talk. Women wouldn't put up with misogyny for a bit of cash. Especially not already rich women, right? That aside if you look at men in jail, they're more likely to be fathers than men who have never been to jail. The pattern is pretty clear.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/25 09:55 PM
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Bro covered in nazi tattoos. Literally a walking red nazi flag. But women are still the best misogyny detectors in the world.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/25 09:41 PM
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Because it's not even 50 percent accurate. where is the evidence that evil men or immoral men have less chance of finding a woman?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/25 09:39 PM
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I don't know why this persists. Misogynistic men get girlfriends and wives. So do assholes, pervs and perks. A man who meets those exact characteristics is in fact president and has had 3 wives and multiple girlfriends. Jig is up ladies, the just world fallacy is false.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/25 09:38 PM
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natural state. Natural doesn't mean ideal or good for a society. The natural state was some harems alongside some monogamy. The less monogamous the society got, the more violent and dysfunctional it got.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/25 09:34 PM
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Your husband just sounds like a douche bag. In general we know that the upper class men look down on the middle and lower class. However, they need to realize that the pyramid all crashes down without the base. As to him contributing to taxes. Men are net tax producers not only because they make more but also because they use less and die sooner. Income tax is not the only one form of tax on the people, payroll tax is another major tax that usually men pay more into and get less out of. Your hus…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/25 03:24 AM
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much higher Proof?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/25 09:11 PM
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People will rightfully blame both the guy for being a dumbass and the woman for letting one cum in her.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/25 12:31 AM
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who have kids that they never see So there's not an exclusive male insult for this type of guy. People just love him and accept him?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/25 03:40 PM
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the "boys are doing poorly, This is in comparison to women. Not in comparison to men in the past. Men today, of course, are more educated than men in the past. However, we need to make more in order to afford housing. Or even get into a relationship because however much people want to cry about it, women still want a man who makes more than them.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/25 03:38 PM
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Im being hyperbolic. But the idea that women want an unattractive man is absurd.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/25 08:44 PM
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In every relationship. Women do not like passive men who can't order them around. Hell, y'all dont even like a man that can't plan dates.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/25 12:36 PM
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My point being. Hot men can still be abusive. But the majority of abusive men aren't hot No, but they do need to have something going for them. If not hotness, then its the fact that some women crave a man able to put them in their place. Dominance is attractive
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/25 05:52 AM
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Women are capable of falling in love with someone oofy goofy who worships the ground they walk on. Women will cheat on this guy who worships the ground they walk on. Y'all dont respect men who are beneath you and worship you. The jig is up.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/25 05:49 AM
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I think so If it's not a yes, it's a no. If something as simple as reciprocity gets equivocation from you. The answer is that you can't live up to your own standards. They're a front for the fact that you don't qualify for the men you want and likely don't qualify even for an average man.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/25 04:48 AM
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You can scroll and look at arrest records for domestic violence. Most of the men are avg or ugly rarely a hot one. Those are just the men ugly enough to be caught. Women likely didn't put up with the beatings because they were ugly. Chris Brown, on the other hand, was forgiven by Rihanna and has millions of women begging him for 1000 dollar pictures. The world is not just.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/25 04:45 AM
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are happy with unattractive man who loves them. No they aren't, they settled. No one is happy with an unattractive partner. Women need to stop the oofy doofy grift. Everyone knows you're looking for a retirement plan and not a partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/25 04:42 AM
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Why do incels complain about being mocked when they mock others? You'd have to ask an incel. My point, however, that it is a derogation of their ability to have sex. Why do people get uncomfortable when you call out what they do?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/25 02:37 PM
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Once again, the involuntary celibate part of the definition doesn't go away just because you want it to. Small dick energy is still penis size shaming. It does change just because you're saying that it means something else.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/25 06:24 AM
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It's an insult that denigrate someone for not being sexually successful. Your vague response is proof of how you don't really believe in what you're saying .
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/25 12:46 AM
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insult incel has zero to do with having sex or not. Not even the involuntary celibate part?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/25 07:03 PM
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Gemini says most states dont have 50/50 default by law. Which is what im advocating for. Many men don’t want to pick up their kids on a Sunday evening to drive them to school 3 days of the week, hurry home from work to pick them up, do baths, stories and bedtime. Even if this is true, 50/50 child custody reduces child support paid to the mother because the father is paying for the kids when they're together. This would be ideal for most fathers. A lot of states are jumping on board this. 6 or so…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/25 04:02 PM
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If you're trying to make the point that women are associating, they are likely to be criticized for wanting children. You have another thing coming.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/25 03:52 PM
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Thank you if this was reversed. Suddenly, you'd see. Let's help the ladies. Indeed, historically, the children were given to the father in divorce.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/25 12:52 PM
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actually isn’t very expensive as family court lawyers aren’t priced like a criminal lawyer. There are lots of charities that donate to dads petitioning for custody of their children. [THIS is a great place to start.](LawHelp.org) [Or HERE.](USA.gov) I dont personally need this. You saying it isn't very expensive. Still, it means it's expensive, and we agree on that much, at least. It’s a cop out to say “I didn’t petition (even tho she did) because it’s too expensive! Im explaining that going bac…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/25 12:51 PM
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lot of men on here complain about oppression regarding women's preferences for men with healthy BMI's, access to wealth, and genetic predispositions regarding height. Men aren't complaining that women aren't choosing fat men. Height, its hard to acknowledge that women do indeed select for height. The same for wealth. Give me an example of this.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/25 12:46 PM
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Point still stands
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/25 12:43 PM
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You feel oppressed because someone wants their future partner to have a healthy BMI and kids. You're making OPs point for him. The low body count thing is literally proven to affect your likelihood of divorce. Its just sad that men cant express any standards in women that aren't a mirror copy of women's own.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/25 04:24 AM
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No, this is because contesting child support is expensive ad dad's are paying their own money for them to fight. Kentucky made child custody 50/50 by default and divorce fell 25% compared to the national average of 18. That should tell you who's getting favored in courts and who's not.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/25 10:43 PM
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extremely masculine By definition, very few people like extremes. Most guys wouldn't like a dainty princess who needs everything to be hot pink. You've said nothing here. Sexual dimorphic traits weaker, they be biological or social, seem to be what unites different definitions of masculinity and femininity. The definition of masculinity and who is included in it has changed over time, which is why I don’t see it as unchanging. I know my definition encapsulates that. It's just "traits, attributes…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/25 09:47 PM
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Then explain what the relevant difference is between bi women and straight women. Why choose one instead of the other?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/25 05:24 PM
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The idea of masculinity is socially constructed Im interpreting your use of social construct here is to apply that its not relevant or is completely changeable on a whim. Masculinity or femininity aren't. Their traits and behaviors that men and women find attractive in each other. In other words, it's sexual dimporphism in women and men.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/25 05:23 PM
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Im just wondering whats the relevant difference between a bi woman and a straight woman i. In terms of a relationship. I wish you guys would just say how you really feel. Do you think they have more options to cheat?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/25 04:17 PM
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A marriage is not a job. Jobs are a legal and contractual relationship with someone else. When making a decision like that. Someone's past relationships (of that type) matter a great deal.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/25 06:14 PM
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Pretend you're an employer looking for an employee. One has a resume that shows he got a new job every six or so months for the last 5 years. The other has been in two jobs in that same time period. Which one do you pick. All else being equal (same industry, education, etc?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/25 05:44 PM
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You're husband matrial not hookup matric. Y No, even bringing up hook up material in the first place is a turn off for men who are marriage minded. Im sorry, but just dont bring up hookups if your intention is marriage.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/25 05:31 PM
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It doesn't matter that woman obviously prioritized and valued hook-ups right until she needed to be married. Men dont want to be the husband material standard of a woman who didn't prioritize marriage.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/25 05:27 PM
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Think about it this way. The woman who has prioritized marriage and been marriage minded obviously holds marriage and a husband to high standard/value. The woman who is promiscuous and hooks up with guys instead of trying to look for marriagable guys probably holds marriage and husbands at a lower value than the former woman. I dont want to be the husband material standard of woman number 2, I want to the husband material standard of woman number 1.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/25 05:21 PM
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Men are saying that the excess drive that makes men compete and work long hours comes from the idea that it helps the create a family with a woman. You can say that women aren't owed to them, and I agree. But you're going to see a massive fall off in taxes when men realize that the extra effort won't go anywhere. Men are net contributors to taxes. We make lots of money, and we die early like good little robots. You can tell men that women aren't owed to them, but neither is male excess labor owe…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/25 03:38 PM
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Im guessing the erotica you read still has masculine figures. My point is that this is pretty baked into straight women. We need to stop pretending that everything is socially constructed and thought.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/25 07:28 PM
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But that’s just reddit being reddit, no? In real life I think there’s way less of that compared to the loud minority here My guy no, just no. Reddit is a liberal site, and the women here are the most liberal in the world. If they're spouting this shit. Women in the real world are absolutely vicious. It's like saying that women only avoid autistic guys on reddit and not IRL. Personally, I wouldn’t date a bi woman either, but not for some deep reason That's fine but you must admit that most guys d…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/25 04:09 PM
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There are people on this post saying this shit my dude. Just scroll. On top of that, these same women are throwing fits at the idea of a man saying I dont want my partner to be with many men. That's the thr hypocritical side of it from liberals. On top of even that, they dont want their partners to be with men because of the stated reasons. They dont say it because its unpopular. They view bisexuality as unmasculine, the fear STD spread, and they're afraid of their partners not being invested in…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/25 03:51 PM
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Absolutely. Its just depends on how you're defining dominance
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/25 03:47 PM
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But it’s also not weird for a straight person to only be into other straight people. It's not weird, and nobody said that. Im saying the reasons women give as to why they won't do it. 1.) Conflict with their denunciation of slut shaming and judging. 2.) Are because bi guys aren't performing certain traditional gender roles. Which progressive women say are toxic.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/25 03:02 PM
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The original claim was that women are more/less likely to have disordered views about sex. You brought up paraphilias as a rebuttal im bringing up women's predeliction for abusive monster novels and bdsm as disordered sex. Also, paraphilias dont have to be acted upon. So, wanting to fuck a dead body is a paraphilia. Doing it is a crime and a paraphilia. Similarly, wanting to be 🍇 is not wrong. But putting yourself in violent situations that deliberately lead to that would be the problem. Disorde…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/25 02:58 PM
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Reading a romance novel is also not comparable to fucking a dead body Neither is porn but there's an entire movement of women trying to ban sex dolls and AI porn even when no real women are present.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/25 02:26 PM
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Ok, then, how do we explain the popularity of monster style romance novels? Or 50 shades of grey? Stuff that isnt at all pushed by our culture but is still a prominent feature in women's erotica
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/25 12:42 PM
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A prescription on how a gender should behave. Heterosexuality is both a role, as in men should only fuck women and its sexuality in that men who are attracted to women are Heterosexual. It's called heteronormativity and it seems to be applied more strongly on to men,by women, in this case. A lot of women seem to believe this implicitly, and liberal women are hypocrites because they're screaming that men should let go of traditional gender roles.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/25 04:20 AM
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Once again, sexual orientation isn't a gender role It's both, sexual orientation is both prescriptive and descriptive. men getting with women is a gender role (something that society prescribes men to do in order to be seen as manly). The implication behind roles like, men must hold the door for women and provide for women is a gender role that necessitates that men be with women or else be seen as not masculine. Now, this is homophobic and it's a role that should be stopped. But women are assoc…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/25 04:04 AM
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Bisexuality is a sexual orientation. OP's own title and post attempts to conflate sexual orientation with gender roles Yes, his premise is that women dont like bi men because they dont follow certain gender roles due to their sexuality. However, their sexuality isn't precluding women from dating them the gender roles are.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/25 03:52 AM
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thinking that social conditioning doesn't factor in attraction is pure cope Im not saying it doesn't. im saying that the fundamentals are baked in by genetics or hormones. Identical twins are more likely to be gay than fraternal ones, etc. The foot binding thing was confined to the elite peasant women needed to do farm work on their feet. So they couldn't be broken and bound. You're talking about a very niche group.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/25 03:49 AM
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You brought up the term sexual orientation in a post about women dating bi men. What does sexual orientation have to do with. Unless your intention was to imply that straight women can't date bi men because their straight? If im wrong, tell me why you brought up sexual orientation.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/25 03:43 AM
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Dating a bi person doesn't change your sexual orientation. Dating a bi man wouldn't mean your bisexual. Nor does dating a bi woman make a man bisexual.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/25 03:39 AM
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but most didn't care. Be honest where the most who didn't care bisexual themselves? I see this as mostly a het women problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/25 03:11 AM
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doesn’t really have much to do with gender roles, I will & have dated bisexual men Are you a bisexual woman? Because this seems rare in straight women.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/25 03:08 AM
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went to a very progressive university Also, i bet that even within this university, that was a minority of women. There are women who are attracted to femininity. They tend to be lesbian and gay but not always.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/25 03:07 AM
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No one has to tell you what to find attractive. I swear liberals had an entire movement in the 2010s where you were born with your sexuality. The Lady Gaga song "born this way " is about that idea. No one tells you to be gay or straight, and furthermore, no one tells you that certain men or women are attractive or not.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/25 03:04 AM
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Women like average height attractive hot men. The data says otherwise. Tall hot men are hotter all things being equal.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/25 05:15 PM
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This isn't a personal statement im speaking to the broader question. The biggest difference between a creep and a non creep is just how good he looks. That's it.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/25 09:46 PM
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And not be unattractive. that's the most important thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/25 09:04 PM
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That new yourk times article and several TikTok, YouTube videos, etc. Beg to differ. It's not no one. Is enough women to cause a stir.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/25 12:49 AM
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multiple ways to get to that minimum attraction Again, there are multiple ways to become a millionaire. You can become a high-powered lawyer, an incredible surgeon. A professional athlete. Build a very successful business. Have a successful YouTube or twitch. Win the lottery. I could keep going. But the point is even if there are a lot of ways to get there. few people will still get there anyway. Women likewise want the "best" men irrespective of how they define that. It will still limit the poo…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/25 07:05 PM
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men find most women attractive”. This is actually true. You're misunderstanding the meaning, though. There's a pornographic category for almost any type of woman you can think of, baby, quadrapalegic, etc. There isn't one for every man a short woman can think of. If you take romance novels or romcoms. The guy is essentially the exact same tall, handsome guy who has power but is devoted to her. Men speaking in generalities and hyperbole here. Of course. When women say beautiful at any size, they …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/25 06:59 PM
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Politics is not something that is passed on in the gene You say this with so much conviction, how are you so sure? Anyway, putting that aside. Im not even talking about the fact that politics is indeed partially genetically transmitted. But the fact that conservatives raise conservative children with conservative values around other conservative friends and families. If conservatives are doing this more than liberals there will be more conservatives in the future.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/25 03:55 PM
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Men aren't lying about it, though. We don't say that fat women are having problems dating because "men are intimidated by her personality." Its because they're fat, and that's unattractive. Men don't lie about this shit. Beautiful at any size is not a manosphere coined term.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/25 03:45 PM
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This is like saying there's multiple ways to become a millionaire. Yeah those ways are still exclusive and hard to do. And if you're going to give me a nonsense argument, just change millionaire to six figures. Point still stands.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/25 03:40 PM
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Which doesn’t matter; profoundly conservative times produced liberal ideas in the first place. You're not getting it. Those liberals people had kids at around the same clip as conservatives. Im liberal so I believe that liberal ideas are more popular and sound (in general). However, if conservatives have more kids than liberals we're fighting a tide of indoctrinated kids who were raised from birth not only to hate "liberal" ideas but to hate the very act of being educated and learning from exper…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/25 08:42 PM
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Means and averages change. Regression implies that extreme possibilities are less likely to happen with successive chances.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/25 08:34 PM
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You’re never going to convince a majority that women need to be forced back into the kitchen. The women who are against going back to the kitchen are reproducing less than the ones that are pro going back in the kitchen. In time, there are fewer anti-kitchen women voting. We teach our kids our values and ideas. If you have less of them, there are less to teach. And please don't bring up the current culture. That is subject to change with demographics as well. Colleges won't be able to liberalize…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/25 08:30 PM
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Well, first of all, natural selection is not evolutionary psychology. That's just biology. Isla is saying that misogynistic men (misogyny being a psychological trait) are being selected out. In this context, it's evo psych people are lapping it up when it ostensibly goes against men. They tried to draw a direct comparison between what red pillers say and what they claim women say. It's not a strawman to point out that's bullshit. Sorry if that's inconvenient to your agenda. Read the above. Most …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/25 07:25 PM
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I don't want women to be second class citizen. But this comedian is correct in that selection is happening and since feminist are pro-creating less. They're being selected out. True of liberals in general.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/25 07:22 PM
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Can you explain this?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/25 05:57 PM
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The problem is incels want the most attractive girls and are entitled* This isn't true. Actually read the science. Incels are extremely insecure with extremely low standards. They essentially want any woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/25 05:52 PM
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Agreed, if we're doing natural selection, let's do it across the board. No welfare, and if you don't pick the right baby dad, your kids is a bastard that starves to death.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/25 05:51 PM
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Not really, no. Yes, these are the same people who ignore evo psych when they think its beneficial to men. Please, show me all the women complaining that men only want the top 20% of women, Strawman. No one said this would be what women would complain about. They do complain when evo psych is brought up. Look up munecat
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/25 05:34 PM
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The reason is that women don't need to be. Ironically, it might be a form of natural selection where funny men reproduce more. But I think its mostly cultural selection, men have to practice being funny to date.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/25 05:16 PM
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Or feminist women not having feminist children that continue the ideology.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/25 06:07 AM
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Ok, then keep the same energy when a woman says I don't wanna date broke men.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/25 10:27 PM
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It's true if not a bit poorly worded. There are more mothers in the US and most countries than there are fathers.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/25 10:19 PM
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Is the way women speak about broke men a reflection of their characters?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/25 09:30 PM
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These are childless women and men. Women have more kids than men do. Also, the difference is 15 vs 21 percent. Calm down.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/25 08:58 PM
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Single moms are to men what broke men are to women. We dont want to take care of 2+ people. You ladies can keep trying to shame men for this preference, but it won't work.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/25 08:56 PM
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Nope my point stands with or without the routine part. We all know the study you're referencing. most women routinely orgasm. Around 2/3ds
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/25 11:56 PM
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This is awfully close to the number of women who do not routinely orgasm during sex. I wonder if there's a connection. False, around 70 percent of women do orgasm. So these aren't related at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/25 05:52 PM
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Outside those rare unforseen circumstances. You have a paperweight of debt. On top of that, young need a wife that's so rich that she can pay off your student debt and hers. Are you ladies trolling us right now. How many women want to marry a guy loaded with debt he can't pay while she has to pay all the bills. Even if he was the best homemaker on the planet. Just be honest. If you can be honest, this post answers itself.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/25 05:20 PM
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Yup, and man who plans on being a stay at home father from the start is rarely going to find women attracted to him. OP is an anomaly. Men don't do it because it's a waste of a degree or license if you do, and if you don't get that degree/license, most women aren't going to date you. Im using degree/license as a stand-in for investment in any careeer.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/25 04:46 PM
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I think you guys forget that women want kids too. The only ones complaining were going to have them anyway. If democrats wanted to pull men in, this would be the way.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/25 05:26 PM
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But you're ignoring the fact that there has been years of zero upward mobility for the stay at home parent while the working spouse has been moving up the ranks Its proportional, that's why I used percentages. So if the husband is increasing his earnings. The wife will get a higher total amount of money. Yeah fuck that. I think liberal men are going to team up with conservative s on this one. The family court system seems to only benefit liberal rad fems. I hope the change comes soon. It definit…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/25 12:46 PM
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Ok, give me an example of a common gangster without a gf. Guys in prison are more likely to be fathers than men outside of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/25 12:36 PM
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Hmm..how does that work? Like in reality? If a woman is making 50k and a man is making 100k. Instead of the assets being split 50/50 in a divorce. I think they should be split 33/66. Assuming there were kids,she stayed at home, and there is no fault in the marriage . Ideally the best answer is just to abolish marriage and turn it into a legal contract when you decide to have kids. That way people can make their own rules. How does this work, exactly? Explain what you mean with a fault based syst…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/25 12:34 PM
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Yup, the marriage system we've made is too liberal. I never thought id be saying it but a conservative correction is very much needed.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/25 12:24 PM
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The stay at home parent is benefiting the working parent to their own detriment. No. That should be compensated with regards to that parents' own career, not the working parent. Raising a kid isn't suddenly worth a million dollars because you're married to a millionaire. Gross. You want to force women to stay married too? I wouldn't consider myself a liberal then. No, they can also not get married. Which is fine by me. This only applies to marriages with kids. Point being kids make it hairy. Rar…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/25 12:21 PM
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That 1.1 percent is because we define rape via penetration.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/25 12:10 PM
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stay at home parent is worth half as much as what the other working parent makes Yeah, this should change. I believe stay at home parents should be given essentially the proportion they were making before they were parents. Im a liberal but one benefit to conservatives taking power is that we're talking about things like divorce reform. Don't like it don't get married or have kids. Or, if you must have kids, pay for their childcare/nanny so she can work. You get your marital assets split regardl…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/25 11:57 AM
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Could you given example of famous gangster who had trouble with women or didn't have a gf.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/25 07:27 PM
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All of this is unsourced. Stop whining About sources when you don't provide any yourself. Argue against it or get off the internet.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/25 05:59 PM
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Gangsters will have no problem finding a girlfriend, though. It's not that women like bad men per se, but we need to get rid of the notion that being bad or mysoginistic is an impediment to dating. Your looks are on top of a couple of other factors.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/25 05:16 PM
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actually shows men take for more than they give since they're only relying on one person for emotional support and therapy while women have family, friends, and usually a therapist. It proves the opposite. Women are taking from more people. If you're sharing your struggles with how you lost your job with multiple people, how have you reduced the amount of emotional labor. This has never made sense to me. You can't really divide emotional labor. You can only reduce it by not telling someone.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/25 01:23 AM
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What is your evidence of this? Does that include makeup and filters. If so, I agree. If it's right out of the shower. I dont.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/25 03:23 PM
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They're marrying men their level. And the guy can probably take care of her. It's really that easy. The vast majority of couples are looks matched. Filters and make-up give us the illusion that a woman looks better than her partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/25 03:21 PM
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And if they were attractive. It wouldn't be a problem to their dating life.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/25 03:18 PM
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Evolution favors promiscuity. Evolution favors survival and reproduction. We're not talking about promiscuity. Here we're talking about allowing your partner to cheat on you. Your own genes are not being favored. The chance of your offspring being your own biologically goes down. Remember, there was no birth control pill 100 + years ago. Males would be less likely to pass their genes on to the next generation in this system, but female would be able to continue their lineage just the same .( So …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/25 04:33 AM
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This is babble. What genes are more likely to proliferate. The genes where people feel disgust when eating rotten food or the genes of people who don't? Likewise, what genes are going forward to the genes of the guy who lets his wife bang 5 other dudes because he's not "insecure" or the guy who tells the wife no?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/25 04:21 AM
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You need to think. Would people who let their partners cheat on them be very successful at an evolutionary level? Would their genes be more or less likely to pass on into the next generation?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/25 12:19 AM
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You don't think jealousy to your partner cheating is an ingrained biological response. Like feeling disgust when seeing rotten food. I mean, I get youre blue filled, but I don't. The default setting for human beings is to just be ok with being cucked.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/25 10:37 PM
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Social norms become social norms for a reason. Monogamy is time tested as the most stable way to grow a family and subsequently a country. If you want to see the fruits of polygamy. Check out Afghanistan.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/25 10:34 PM
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Because we have more food and aren't malnourished.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/25 01:32 PM
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Education and intelligence is also being selected against. There is no evidence that we're getting more attractive or taller.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/25 01:26 PM
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You see women with makeup with men without it. Most people, according to research, dare their looks match. I can link the study if you want.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/25 12:00 AM
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Please read my full comment. You don't understand what hypergamy is. I explain it. You're moving a mile a minute and trying to get a gotcha. However, you don't understand what you're debating.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/25 12:41 PM
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Look up the definition of hypergamy. You're so close, but miss the point.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/25 12:37 PM
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Tl;DR: men are polygamous not hypergamous No, hypergamy is the tendency or desire to date or marry someone with highER social status than yours. Men do love and want to date attractive women. But they don't necessarily want to date a woman who's more attractive than them. Does that make sense? Its the tall girl problem. The tall girl has a problem dating because she wants someone taller than her. A tall man has no problem dating because even if he wants to date a tall woman. She doesn't have to …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/25 12:34 PM
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It begs the question, why are women dating toddlers. Dating a teenager (18 & 19) can be legal. Why do women date toddler men?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/25 02:51 AM
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It's more likely to be ignored, though. Promiscuity works like wealth does for men and women.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/25 05:59 PM
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But remember, she won't get to know your personality unless you pass basic attractiveness
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/25 08:49 PM
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they “already know it”, then why do they trot out the fallacy? Because people like you don't know it. When you finally figure out they're correct, it psychologically hurts to agree with them, so you mischarcterize their position Do you know what the “just world” fallacy is? It's in the name. Just world and fallacy implies the world isn't just. "Good" people aren't more likely to get a girlfriend. Bad people aren't less likely to get a girlfriend.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/25 02:22 PM
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"People who screech about the just world fallacy don't seem to realize that being sexually repulsive doesn't make you immoral" People screeching about the just world fallacy already know this it's the entire point of their argument. You're deliberately mischarecterizing their argument because it hurts you psychologically for them to be correct about something. Look up what the just world fallacy is.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/25 01:36 PM
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You're projecting, and you deflected from my previous statement because you know it's true and can't argue against it.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/25 01:24 PM
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That's what these people who are "screeching " for the just world fallacy are saying. I notice that when blue pill can't argue against something. They try to pretend that it was obvious and that they thought of it first.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/25 01:19 PM
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The point is that being "repugnant" or not doesn't correlate with having a relationship or not. Hitler and Stalin both had girlfriends and wives. The just world fallacy is just untrue. Being physically attractive and having a fun personality is all you need to have a partner as a man. Finances help, but she won't love you. She just needs you.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/25 01:14 PM
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All of Hollywood literally goes against what you're saying. As far as the eye can see. Older male celebs dating younger hotter women.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/25 09:39 PM
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I guess for women or gay men, sure. But straight men more along the lines of a women wanking herself off.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/25 03:08 PM
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What if it's solo?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/25 08:48 PM
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Like any woman, it depends on how hot she looks. This is a bad comparison because bisexuality men don't look or act a certain way as a rule.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/25 10:53 PM
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I understand it. You just don't want to admit you argued yourself into a corner. It's pathetic but sadly predictable when arguing with certain people.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/25 09:53 PM
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more prolific than most men on average. I don't know if I believe that assumption
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/25 09:38 PM
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He also chose to have a child with her No, his choice was taken away as soon he came inside. He chose to come inside and I fully him for that. But carrying that child to term and delivering that baby is the exclusive purview of women. My body my choice is what women advocate for. Abortion should be a decision between a woman and her doctor. Men have no authority over whether you keep the child. So you're responsible for that. We all know how babies are made, but if women want full autonomy over …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/25 07:03 PM
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I hold both parties accountable but for different things. The man and the woman for having sex without a condom. But the woman exclusively for having the child with this deadbeat. I'm sorry, but sole authority over a given area gives you sole responsibility.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/25 06:50 PM
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This isn't the same thing they're still dating you but want you to be exclusively into men. "Essentially" to make you straight. Women (some/most) do not want to date bi men at all. Also, this is pretty niche for men, but most women, even on this post, are saying they won't date bi guys.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/25 06:48 PM
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But your statement was straight. People want to dare straight people. There was no qualifier to specify one group of straight people or the other. What's hard to grasp is that you obviously said something dumb and you won't back down from it. Straight people don't want to date straight people they want to date the opposite sex. I have straight male friends, and I'm straight. I don't want to dare them because their straight. I want to date women because I'm straight.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/25 06:44 PM
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"Straight people want to date straight people," These are your words. If I wanted to date a bi woman, am I not straight?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/25 04:45 PM
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Straight men don't want to date you or lesbian women? I believe the latter.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/25 04:26 PM
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No bi women are just equally as hot as straight women to men. The attraction is the same. The reason straight men date by women is just because they're women.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/25 04:24 PM
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To be straight is to want to date the opposite sex. If a guy dates a bi woman is he not straight?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/25 04:22 PM
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If men are participating in casual sets, they need to participate with someone. And of they're heterosexual that someone is a woman. Are you blaming the discrepancy on gay men?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/25 04:06 PM
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But women choose whether or not to have a baby. They have the final say.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/25 03:59 PM
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It really isn't saying that you hate women as a man is way less accepted than the inverse. If a man said he hated women to me, I'd either call him out or not engage with him anymore. Women, even women in this sub, are probably friends with a woman who says she hates men. That's the difference.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/25 03:52 PM
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You missed the entire easy to understand point. Some people have low iq, it's OK. I'm just not going to waste my time.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/25 06:10 AM
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Almost every man I have encountered in North America and Western Europe has been a virtual child with the emotional range of a spoiled brat whose never developed any discipline or self-control. I'm super glad you said this. It says so much about you and the people you hang around. Best guest is that you fit this criteria perfectly. As if men have ever been remotely tolerant of women who express negative emotions? It's actually scary how traumatized you are. Seek help. Ok
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/25 06:08 AM
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Oh, I'm sorry. I didn't know I was speaking to an imbecile have a nice night.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/25 06:04 AM
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We were talking about the kind of strength and weakness that requires protection. Keep up.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/25 05:33 AM
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Sure, then society cares less about men than women. Does that make things better?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/25 05:30 AM
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Women are the majority of counselors. This is irrelevant. The majority of CEOs and presidents are men. This doesn't mean that men necessarily should be or are the leaders in relationships? Right. Women in relationships with men provide emotional I don't really see evidence for this. women may be a man's primary confidant, but that doesn't mean that women aren't counseled more by men. Observationally, it's women sharing their struggles with men that's more prevalent in a relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/25 05:54 PM
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Tl;DR last paragraph is the most important How is it unsubstantiated? 1.) The fact that this is caused by toxic masculinity and not any other factors 2.) If toxic masculinity in it of itself exists. 3.) Masculine behavior doesn't need to be enforced by society it can be enforced by nature. Nature can give men on average more risk-taking behavior, more disagreability, etc. It can also give people less empathy because of those gifts. "You're competent, so you don't need help," Toxic masculinity an…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/25 05:48 PM
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The impetus of the article is false then. This isn't something men do to any substantial degree. And my point that women really can't or want to see men express negative emotions still stands.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/25 05:42 PM
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Boys show more empathy for girls not because girls are more deserving, but because they’re seen as weaker and in need of protection Replace girls here with children. How is this a negative. Women aren't perceived as weaker. They are weaker physically relative to men.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/25 02:14 PM
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Men innately will lose more than women. The animal kingdom is brutal to male animals in terms of reproduction.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/25 02:11 PM
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Seems like the issue here is mainly male friendships that lack intimacy No, that's just the issue that allows you to feel bad for how you treat men. The evidence given shows that both men and women treat men this way. Imagine if I showed that slut shaming is done 50 percent by women to other women. And say see slut shaming is mainly an issue of female cruelty.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/25 02:09 PM
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This is an unsubstantiated assumption.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/25 02:03 PM
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No, you idiot they're not entitled to be seen as beautiful. No one is. However, if they want to whine about that. Unattractive men will whine about it as well. I hate both of them. But one group is hugged and given dove "beautiful at every size" commercials. While we rightfully call men who do this losers.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/25 12:49 AM
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You can't have both, though. Either men are not opening up to women enough or they're doing it too much. What phenomenon are you attributing to men? The answer to this is that men try to open to women after being told to, and women actually hate it. Instead of just stating that. They say it's trauma dumping.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/25 08:58 PM
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How can this be true,when women complain about men not opening up and being emotionally available as a sex? I think this phenomenon is just women realizing they don't really want men to open. They just like the idea of being there for men. Not the practice.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/25 08:54 PM
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Do you think that website would be pro AI porn? Or animated porn? They hate it because it takes away women's collective bargain.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/25 08:31 PM
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Weird that a lesbian would deny that women get into relationships relatively quickly and realize the person isn't what they said they were.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/25 03:02 AM
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The issue again is those women wanting to land high tier men while being the equivalent to a guy working at McDonald's at 30. Men don't care and wouldn't say a word if women weren't complaining on tik tok about all men being assholes because she couldn't she that she was a slow Tuesday.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/25 02:52 PM
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I'm 💯 percent correct
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/25 08:28 AM
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No man cares if fatties are getting pumped and dumped by Chad. Men start carrying when she complains all men are assholes when Chad doesn't want a relationship. Women literally invaded male spaces and demanded men make video game characters less sexy. These aren't the same issue but nice obfuscation.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/25 07:28 AM
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So wanting monogamy without multiple other naked women is just wanting all the attention on you? Asinine You can want all the monogamy you want. What does it have to do with people you Don't know watching porn. Something that literally doesn't effect you in any way buy you have to interject yourself. Don't make me laugh. Nope. I lost interest in dating men about 10 years You still have an incentive to make sure that men's sexuality is controlled by women and that them seeing a nude woman is at t…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/25 06:39 AM
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fictional* women even. Exactly, it's why the exploitation argument is nonsense. I agree they don't want low value men to have sex. But even high value men watch porn to take the edge off. They want to control all male sexual behavior and ensure that obese feminists are the beauty standard. If men are going to have sex they need to give half their life's earning for the opportunity. Sure, attractive men they'll have sex with, but the others have to pay top dollar or else it's sexual exploitation.…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/25 06:33 AM
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Do you think I want the attention of porn sick weirdos? No, I think you care that their attention is somewhere else. I believe you hate these guys, but you still don't want their attention directed at beauty you can't attain. get attention from men. They are, deep down, women really do care deeply about male attention. I mean, why on earth would you see women complaining about video game characters being seen as sexual objects. They're ARE literal objects. If you didn't care you wouldn't be comm…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/25 06:29 AM
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You're making my point. Also, if you want that no one is stopping you. You hate men watching porn because, deep down, you think we compare these women to you. When you see it, you can never unsee it. Human 5 is almost 100 percent about sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/25 06:13 AM
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Because some women need to intellectualize the fact that they feel that porn shifts male attention away from them. It's not just porn it's obviously fake and unexploited women in video games too.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/25 05:36 AM
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Y'all don't care about porn because it's exploiting women's bodies you care because it takes attention away from you. You could turn the entire porn industry into fully AI fake women tomorrow, and people like you would still cry. You see porn and even video games with hot fake women as competition. The most depraved depictions of sexual entitlement are not from online porn they're from women's erotica. 50 shades is the manifesto of a stalker and you guys jerk of to that with glee.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/25 05:34 AM
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You're an only child, aren't you?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/25 07:41 AM
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Women when they complain about fatness not being seen as beautiful in society. Either we're all entitled to be viewed as "beautiful " or none are. I lean towards the latter. I wont, however, accept the double standard that is women constantly bitching about societal beauty standards and then complaining when guys bring up beauty standards that are unfair to them. And then there are idiot pandering male retards that come in and start talking about bootstraps when men don't disagree with that they…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/25 06:22 PM
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It looks like calling out these double standards without it being called whining if women want to talk about beauty standards being toxic. The cure to all of this is that everyone needs to stop being a victim in dating, or everyone will start playing the victim. Let's all play the same game. It's not a whine if you see someone picking up the ball with their hands in soccer, and you call them out. The correct answer is not "stop complaining to the ref and just get better."
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/25 04:33 PM
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Because its just self agrandizing from a boomer who lucked into a relationship and thinks he got into it by himself and through hard work. Pure survivorship bias.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/25 04:28 PM
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It's idiotic. No one is arguing that men shouldn't take responsibility. You jackasses come out of the woodwork when anyone at all starts noticing that there are societal forces that affect dating. Sympathy isn't supposed to help dating. It just tells someone you understand what their going through. If blue pillers want men to share the feelings more, they need to be willing to accept and sympathize with those feelings.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/25 04:24 PM
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They absolutely would. Their morality is purely emotionally based. These people are authoritarians.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/25 02:38 PM
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Those men are just physically attractive. If they were 6 ft I'm sure women like then even more. There are strong biological preferences that are somewhat mediated by culture.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/25 09:22 AM
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You really want to avoid the offended part of my statements. Having someone pick up after themselves and not cheat is controversial. Them not offending you as general rule is.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/25 06:07 PM
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Clothes change, but hard wired behavior doesn't.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/25 04:59 PM
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Oddly, many men are able to do it. You can't spend your life trying not to offend someone who wants to get offended. I'd never date someone who wants to go out of their way not to be offended.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/25 04:18 PM
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A partner being constantly upset and offended at everything is even sadder. If you have to make a rule that you don't want to be offended. It seems like you're a person to take offensive and need their feelings assuaged during every couple joke.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/25 03:50 PM
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You must be too young to remember heroin chic. No, I know how this idiocy is always brought up. However, that is for fashion models, one section of society. If you look at societal trends in general and ask regular guys the pattern persists.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/25 02:56 PM
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No, you're looking at history through the lenses of a couple of rich people. Educated men mostly. Body weight fluctuated. However, WHR is pretty consistent. Height is also consistent.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/25 02:53 PM
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don’t offend me Seems pretty open-ended and a reason to break up with anyone. But do you.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/25 02:50 PM
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Attraction is subjective. No, can we stop repeating this. There are parts of attraction that are pretty hard wired. Like symmetry, clear skin, a healthy looking body and proportion features. The superficial things like beards can be changed but characteristics like height and an hourglass figure will always be the standard. If there's no definition of a standard, why would women say beauty standards are so rigid and toxic.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/25 02:48 PM
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Men are usually coming in with more earning potential, so they are bound to lose more.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/25 05:43 PM
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What's the marital risk for women as a group in today's day and age? If you say something like DV, understand that it also happens outside of marriage.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/25 05:42 PM
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It's your resume, you self-righteous liar. Your education, accomplishment, and dedication in other jobs predicts your ability to make money in the future. Women can do the same thing by asking you questions about your job and where you went to college.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/25 05:40 PM
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1.) Healthier, this still does sufficiently address unrelated factors thar may select for health and marriage but ill yield thar the correlation isn't women choosing healthier men. 2.) Wealth this one agrees with me "Hence, men who are well placed within the structure of social relationships are more likely to be both married and of higher wages than other men" 3.) Not due to marriage just partner ship 4.) See 3 5.) More selection bias 6.) Read conclusions. The point being is that marriage doesn…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/25 05:37 PM
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Learn to read. The argument was wealthier men. Also, how do you think employers pick good 20-something employees to hire for a business? I don't want to believe you're stupid, but the only other option is that you're being malicious.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/25 09:07 AM
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So, almost never and her divorcing is still initiated by her?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/25 09:04 AM
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They lose 2 years of life expectancy Where is the evidence for this. have less leisure time What about marriage makes women have less leisure time? You're confusing having kids with getting married. higher stress. Again kids. Then if they divorce, they end up poorer. Nope, they started out poorer and made less than the men they where earned and are now making less relative to him. It'd be awesome if you'd post the study.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/25 09:03 AM
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What risk do women take in marriage? Compared to a gf
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/25 04:08 AM
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You're making the claim, so you need to provide proof .
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/25 04:06 AM
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Therefore, instead of pretending like divorce is something that just happens to men, realize that they played an active role in their marriage’s demise as well Of course, they chose to get married 😆 maybe consider that the number is so lopsided because the wrong people are marrying each other. Why are there more lesbian divorces than straight or gay ones? The lopsidedness is because women are more trait neurotic and have more incentive to get divorced.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/25 04:05 AM
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Nah, need to be like men for the prenup fear to kick in
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/25 12:44 AM
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Prenups are cowardly too Go ahead and marry a man making less than you. No one is stopping you.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/25 12:12 AM
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You people who think that marriage is only a risk for men are so annoying. It is a big commitment for EVERYONE With 80 percent of the people initiating divorce being women the risk isn't always towards men but pretty dam close.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/25 12:11 AM
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The risk seems unilateral for men that's the issue.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/25 12:09 AM
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Wealthier than single men This is a perfect example of selection bias. Are married men wealthier, or do women choose to marry wealthier men. The same goes for all of these.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/25 12:06 AM
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Wealthier than single men This is a perfect example of selection bias. Are married men wealthier, or do women choose to marry wealthier men. The same goes for all of these.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/25 12:05 AM
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I think you're confusing trad cons and red pill guys.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/25 12:03 AM
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What's the negative part of a marriage for a woman? The stuff you usually complain about isn't codified into law.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/25 12:02 AM
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America's birth rate decline isn't because of 4B. Neither is Korea's. 4B is taking credit for something they didn't do.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/25 10:10 PM
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They're still talking about men, though. It's like the child free subreddit. Any group that builds around avoiding something usually just becomes focused on that thing. That's the point I'm making.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/25 09:45 PM
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Look up the women who "de-center" men. Same story
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/25 09:27 PM
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Is there any data to back this up, or are you just confusing causality and correlation.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/25 08:10 PM
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numbers don’t matter then why equate it wish a volume of high or low Because the number varies so greatly between individual s. We seem to accept the concept with "broke" Men. I. Don't see the blue pill chasing down these women for an exact number. So I don't see a need to give one.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/25 05:54 AM
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So I asked this person what they considered it It wouldn't change anything if I answered it or didn't. All that matters is that no one cares if a woman doesn't want to date a broken man, and that's her preference. But we seem to have an issue with men doing the same. Personally, the number doesn't matter to me, just the baggage and personal trauma that's usually associated with women engaging in promiscuity.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/25 08:09 PM
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isn’t defined?! You're asking for all men to quantitatively define high n count women when all women haven't defined "broke man". It depends on the person, and both are preferences.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/25 07:56 PM
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It doesn't matter. If a woman says I want a rich guy. We don't ask what you consider rich. We know it depends on the woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/25 07:42 PM
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If you reject someone first, can you be rejected?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/25 08:25 PM
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You don't have to do something a lot for it to be made illegal. Murder is actually pretty rare. But we make it illegal because it's morally repulsive. So is rape. On the flip side. A lot of men are raped by women, but non penetration rape of a male is still perfectly fine in some states.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/25 05:47 PM
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There seems to be a lot of women posting on reddit about men hiding conservative views, They'll go back to fucking these guys if they're hot enough. You need to think of most people (women and men) as essential base animals running on instinct they'll virtue signal one thing but do the opposite because it feels good.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/25 05:44 PM
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you go to a sandwich place and see a disclaimer Less than the legal limit of 2% poop! Yes, because I know that feces is everywhere. If they're taking the time to go down, even lower than the legal limit, that's impressive. Bad marketing pitch, though. This is not the win you think it is. There's nothing to win. This is just a simple fact. I don't want an award for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/25 05:42 PM
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The mothers of every adult woman alive today lived in a time where she could have been marital raped and the fathers of every adult woman alive today could have considered that a part of her wifely duties and raised her to think that she should give in to her husband. They could have, but most men don't do that. He'll even be given that there is a law rape that can still happen. The point is. We don't live in a society where marital rape is tolerated culturally and now legally.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/25 04:58 PM
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As they should. They have the kids and resources to now the divorce the dude. He got unattractive after a couple of years. That's all this is. Men aren't lying about what they are. Women just want the fantasy of changing a guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/25 04:53 PM
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All these law dates are irrelevant. Just because something is legal does not mean people do it. You're not living in a country with marital rape. It's irrelevant to our discussion. I don't care about countries with marital rape because i Don't want to fight in a war to liberate them and neither do you.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/25 04:51 PM
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I don't mean literally you. I'm talking about the women just now divorcing Trump supporters.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/25 04:48 PM
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Bear in mind nearly every man here admits they do not care about a woman’s values or her socio-political views Really, where is your evidence for this? Politics matter a lot. You think no man here cares if his gf or wife is shrieking feminists talking points in his ear like you. This seems like something you wish were true 😆. Faithful Word Baptist Church posted a video sermon Right, and you're supposed to wait until marriage for sex but 95 percent of people don't. Christians and certainly crazy …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/25 03:15 PM
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Most sexual encounters are consensual. You guys are confusing consent with dislike. No consensual sex is illegal. Go to a police station. Sex you don't want to have can ve unconsensual, but it doesn't have to be. Both should be avoided. talking about a gunshot vs. a pin prick.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/25 02:41 PM
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You don't live in the countries where men want that. Stop extrapolating to the world if you don't want to do anything about it. Do you want to bomb Afghanistan into stopping female oppression?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/25 02:38 PM
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Believe it or not, men like a slightly curvier woman. You ladies puking yourself into anorexia is once again you trying to fight other women for high tier guys. Those guys don't give a shit either. Guys, I didn't ask for buccal fat surgery to sink your cheeks. Women did that. Your insecurity is reeking over the screen. I can show you the study of men not caring as much about BMI as women might think. In conclusion, most men like most women. Yes, it should aim not to be morbidly obese but that's …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 06:17 AM
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We're not dumb. There's a reason why he gave her that money for guys not to buy her drinks. Women who entertain the attention of multiple men are not wifey.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 06:12 AM
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It's a game of thrones reference the stone men.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 06:07 AM
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VIRTUE SIGNALING It's genuinely not, I wish It wasn't true, but it is the case. You're projecting how women feel attraction onto men. Men are genuinely sexually attracted to a wide swath of women and female body types . Much more than women.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 02:17 AM
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Why would you want a partner that finds you unattractive? The great thing for women is that most men find most women attractive. The opposite isn't true. Yes, most men care about attractiveness, but the threshold is easy to meet in order to speak to a man
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/25 07:55 PM
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No, the assumption that you could change literally nothing and get good results is absurd.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/25 03:53 PM
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Some of them were wonderfully helpful and honest. Others were just wishful thinking and ego stroking. There are some women who can't realize how equally shallow they are.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/25 02:54 PM
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Love the honesty. I'm sympathetic to what women go through in life, especially regarding childbirth and periods.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/25 02:51 PM
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Oh my sweet summer child. I sometimes wish the genders could switch in a freaky Friday simulator and spend a short time as a woman and a man.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/25 02:49 PM
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But the inverse would come naturally come into the lexicon like small dick energy. Loose pussy energy would be seen as sexist, no sorry, misogynistic.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/25 04:48 AM
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I dated two men as a single mum both wanted to marry me. Either way, they didn't. Either the men who are desperate enough to want to marry you are not wanted by you. Or the ones you want don't want to marry you and just "date." Do you really think that being a single mother is immaterial to you finding a partner you want?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/25 09:10 PM
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Good, to it's credit the point of TRP is giving men the tools and agency to avoid these relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/25 05:39 PM
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The struggle is marriage and commitment, not dating. A lot of men will sleep and even date a single mom. But women have a harder time being remarried than men.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/25 05:38 PM
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Right, as men do back to them. Nope men allow feminists to speak at any gathering. They don't pull fire alarms like feminists do.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/25 07:49 PM
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I'm not talking about Biden and the democrats I'm talking about feminists and how they stifle speech. Stop trying to redirect the conversation.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/25 07:48 PM
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Criticizing by yelling so loudly that no one can hear anyone is an assault on free speech. There was also a fire alarm pulled to stop the proceedings.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/25 07:47 PM
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So only the first speaker has a right to speak? Never those who object Fire alarms were pulled so that no one could speak. The protest was because the school was hosting that topic. There is a Q and A at the end for anyone to speak, but that's not what protesters wanted. It’s the right that is cutting off funding to universities. It is the right is disappearing people who protest and sends them to Latin American gulags. This is pure whatabouttery I'm a lefty and what these people did is disgusti…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/25 07:46 PM
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There's a difference between being shot and being stabbed. That doesn't mean either are ideal. Bringing up Republicans is just an attempt to obscure what the movement us doing and the fact that if they were in power, they would use the law for similar bans.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/25 05:14 PM
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They have argued protested against men speaking about their issues, though. https://youtu.be/YiRasOrIoYQ?si=P9xvVtJAavoVILxm
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/25 05:12 PM
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Yet I'm willing to bet if I go through your post history, I won't find that. Dude, only you drag these debates into your own life. I'm just arguing on principle and for looking for consistency. You're never going to see that on my post history because my life isn't devoid of meaning to the point I have to defend illogical arguments. Admit that you don't have an argument.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/25 02:16 AM
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The biggest difference is that murder can be justified Murder by definition, is unlawful and unjustified. Killing can be justified. But there are games that allow targets are morally bad people Does that mean you're allowed to take the law into your own hands. Couldn't you argue that games like hit man or even super hero movies promote taking the law into your own hands? I absolutely don't see a moral difference in rape in video games vs murder.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/25 11:40 PM
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Incest rape fantasies don't belong in video games. Ick 1.) You don't have to play it. 2.) Does murder and any violence belong in video games? What about movies or books. I don't have this kink nor play any steam games, but OP makes a good point. What's the difference?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/25 11:32 PM
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Then, what you're saying is irrelevant. Being harassed is a crime and can be ameliorated. Being ignored can't be.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/25 08:04 PM
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The answer is easier than you think. Their minds are already warped by Instagram. There's not much left for porn to do.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/25 06:23 PM
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lot of hate thrown at them. Ask any ugly person if they'd want to attractive, ask any attractive person if they'd want to be ugly. Are we actually pretending that having good lucks isn't a massive net positive. This is like saying having money can bring you a lot of problems.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/25 08:54 PM
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https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Womad_(website) Child-abuse incident in Australia On November 19, 2017, a member wrote a post on the WOMAD forum claiming that she had drugged and raped an Australian boy.[5][22] She uploaded photos and videos allegedly portraying her raping the boy.[WOMAD members showed support for the writer, leaving comments saying that they would pay to watch the videos of the sexual assault
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/25 08:10 AM
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It’s not really celebrating though is it? You're really fighting to keep a narrative you can't maintain. Other people gave you examples you just move the goalposts. If cheering isn't a form of celebration I don't know what is. The increased death of men includes violence and you specified women in your second post but. A large enough proportion of liberal women are feminists for me to make the association. Keep trying bro.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/25 07:39 AM
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I’m looking for evidence that women supported it This is in front of a live audience reacting to che. https://youtube.com/shorts/40Kpn5kGR3Q?si=fT4oL7y6D3-iOdUR
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/25 07:17 AM
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Is clementine Ford laughing at male covid deaths enough? https://www.bandt.com.au/cv-19-is-not-killing-men-fast-enough-columnist-clementine-ford-forced-to-issue-latest-apology/ This is a prominent feminist laughing at male deaths. I have more if you want.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/25 06:34 PM
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I don't think this is true. You could be the kindest person on the planet, and if you're not attractive, you'll never get action. Be attractive should be the advice. Then, just use the golder rule to navigate life
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/25 01:08 AM
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Be attractive, and for most women (and people in general), you'll be golden.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/25 01:06 AM
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We've done it, and we've reached peak blue pill delusion.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/25 10:23 AM
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No, you don't suck it up. Someone committed suicide during the trial. Why wouldn't I use condoms instead of a drug that makes me want to kill myself.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/25 07:24 PM
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those same side effects we women have been dealing with for decades)* Some of the side effects were suicidilality. It wasn't just mood swings. What drug are you even talking about exactly.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/25 06:27 PM
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Nope, in Canada, there's a case where birth control tampering is not illegal if you're a man.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/25 01:46 PM
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1.) The woman/girl can still abort the baby 2.) She can put him up for adoption 3.) Pretty sure these laws aren't on the books anymore 4.) These laws are for alleged rapists not the clear cut rape case that happened in hermensmen v seyer, were the judge even puts responsibility on the boy for getting that woman pregnant.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/25 01:45 PM
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Yeah they have, usually refer to them as betas or simps from what i can recall. You missed the question above. Were talking about women. On top of that, no one is calling a man who's just married a beta. He has to do something pathetic.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/25 05:39 PM
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uess either you’re not one of the people obsessed with the number or you’ve magically turned into one after being pressed on it. I've never cared about exact numbers. I don't think men should either. After all a woman could have an ex as booty call after every relationship. Guys who focus on the exact number are missing the point.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/25 05:31 PM
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How is he high value if him touching her lowers her value? He's not lowering her value. It's that high value guys have preferences, and it's not run through women. And her having his 2 kids significantly decreases her value, so how would he be considered a high value guy? I don't think you're understanding the conversation.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/25 05:28 PM
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When you ask, do you ask for a range? Or a number. If she gives you a range does this make it more You just do it jokingly and non judgementally after both of you are relaxed, maybe with a couple of drinks. Do all girls in particular friend groups have similar ranges Again, a numerical amount is turbo autistic. It's just a feeling and has to come from you. I’ve yet to see any women post their range of partners on social media, where would I look for this. You don't look for numbers and geometric…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/25 08:58 PM
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1.) Ask 2.) Look at her friend group 3.) Look at her social media. We're not looking for an exact number. It's just a vibe. If you're too promiscuous, it's a no. Women do it too, with their "icks." Suddenly, when men have a preference, it's insecure.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/25 08:43 PM
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Really, has anyone here shamed a monogamous couple raising two kids and minding their own business? A woman having a roster and taking gangbangs from 15 guys won't even be changed. It's only when women and some men here expect a woman like that to be married with 2 kids to a HV guy that we disagree with. Do what you want but understand that all behavior had consequences.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/25 08:39 PM
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Right, this isn't a dove commercial. Men know where they place is. No one is going to tell us if we're beautiful at every size.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/25 08:34 PM
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My family is nowhere near that dysfunctional. Also, it's mostly satire to hit back at a purposefully bad interpretation of the point.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/25 08:37 PM
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This post just radiates anger towards women the way a hot stove radiates heat. No, any anger I may feel is toward people who do the same thing and expect different results. I think it's funny that i can tear into men with zero problems and never be called hateful. But any negative observation and women and their simps swarm.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/25 08:36 PM
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This same guy not only has millions of views hating on single moms, he has a tiktok dedicated to it with lots of fathers. They're still not hated. This comes from a constant bombardment of men being told that single moms are a catch and all women are 10s. No one is hating you. We just want you to be honest. You're a liability in the dating market, and you need to make up for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/25 04:24 PM
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I'm not, I'm just assuming women will let them get away with it and probably give him a blowjob 10 minutes after he gives her a black eye.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/25 04:21 PM
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Yes, some men say it. I've literally never heard this said by a man ever. If they did, I'm pretty sure they're a pedophile.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/25 04:07 PM
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Look at behavior and stop listening to what they say. Do what men do when we're screening for high body count women.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/25 03:59 PM
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By “choose better” the men here mean “choose the unattractive nerdy guy with no options because men are only as loyal as their options” No, we don't mean that. But please go for abusive hot guys. Just don't complain when he beats your ass.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/25 03:58 PM
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Because they typically talk about how women deserve to be unalived, abused, and/or SA’d for not going after the ‘nice guy’. I also noticed men who have a deep hatred of single moms are always single. "One of these things is not like the other, one of these things just doesn't belong" No one here has says women deserve to be SA'd or murdered. The deep hatred of single mom things is made up. Any statement that men don't want to date single moms is seen as hate.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/25 03:46 PM
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NGL this is a garbage take. It's an accurate take, when women call any man who disagrees with them a misogynist an incel. Women don't want equality they want positive sexism when most guys treat them neutrality. And address their arguments. Those guys are misogynists. It's only when a man treats the with absolute deference and fawning that they're a misogynist. The clear and obvious signs of violence are ignored. Domestic abusers aren't hard to avoid. Women choose being gaslit over equality.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/25 03:43 PM
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Yes that's the answer, I was responding to a clearly incorrect take. I'm glad you agree with me.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/25 05:17 PM
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The problem is women criticizing masculinity on the left. That doesn't mean men are changing their masculinity. The amount of trans people in the US is a fraction of a fraction.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/25 04:33 PM
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am a left-leaning moderate and this is my observation. Conservative men with liberal women: I can fix her Liberal men with conservative women: I'm not dealing with that I'm guessing it's just that conservative women are more selective than liberal women. They're not as willing to compromise on core values.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/25 04:25 PM
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Personally, I believe that much of attraction is cultural - think how the Victorians freaked over an exposed ankle or the Japanese about painted white lines along the neck, or which cultures value thiccness over being muscular or thin. I've noticed that female beauty is more cultural. Male beauty is much more globally and historically rigid. This is likely because men vary more than women. There is no culture that prefers short men over tall men. The athletic tall build with a symmetrical face I…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/25 04:11 PM
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Basically, it's this societal idea that "Once you go penis, you never go back, This doesn't make sense. Gay men fuck other men who've been promiscuous with men before. The answer is options. Straight men don't date promiscuous women because they have more options to leave. They do like bi women because there is an option for a female threesome. Lesbian women hate bi women because they're afraid they'll leave her for a guy. Straight women feel bi men will leave for a guy. Gay guys are less relati…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/25 03:28 AM
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You are a pussy bro, threatening violence and stating your height as a go to, is peak beta.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/25 02:22 AM
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Andrew and Tristan Tate do not behave like that with women, they do benevolent sexism. Why is this some scapegoat excuse. If you're with a partner who treats an other group of people badly. You are a bad person. " Oh, my boyfriend is a nazi but he's so sweet to me"
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/25 02:20 AM
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Things would be better in terms of wars and overall violence, yes They wouldn't be better and even if they were. We'd still be on the Stone Age. War drives progress. Get over it. You're living in a comfortable house typing this because your ancestors were killers and took what they needed. And women fucked the men who did these killings.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/25 02:14 AM
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, it means that most of the dominant political force throughout society is driven by men and is masculine coded. If this arrives meritocratically, is it still patriarchal? Does society necessarily have to be 50/50 at the top of its not 50/50 at the bottom.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/25 02:11 AM
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Not gonna happen, unfortunately, men are more varied than women. On top of that rape is defined to not include women assaulting men
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/25 02:08 AM
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Women are the limiting factor to reproduction. This is true of every mammalian species. Women choose the genes that go into the future.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/25 02:05 AM
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A useless word that means nothing now.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/25 01:50 AM
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Agreed
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/25 01:45 AM
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I don't understand what your point is.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/25 05:53 PM
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Humans are ~80% Nurture. What evidence do you have of this?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/25 05:52 PM
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different people like different things. Do you believe we can make any general or average claim about the different things that men and women like? Although the blue pill says it doesn't have a coherent ideology. You guys consistently show that you are blank slatists. You don't believe that men and women can have biological (on average) predisposition to being attracted to different traits.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/25 05:25 PM
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That point is brought up to illustrate that women are just as capable of commiting violence against women. It's usually after a barrage of " I choose the bear". Not all criticism is "bashing". Lesbians are well recieved here.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/25 11:00 PM
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Who shits on lesbians here? Hell they understand the plight of men better than most women. Bi and lesbian women are queens.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/25 09:43 PM
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It's just not homophobic. I'm not saying men are being progressive. I'm saying they're less homophobic.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/25 09:26 PM
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I've actually never heard him called an incel. Predator sure but never incel.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/25 10:59 AM
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Men just want to fuck women. They'd fuck lesbian women if they could.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/25 10:50 AM
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The definition of unattractive is variable, though. In the past the church, families, and women's lack if money incentives pairing with the best man they could get. Culturally enforced monogamy just makes it so you can't get the benefits of a relationship without being in ONE relationship. Incentives can change people's minds not just force.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/25 10:46 AM
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You guys are confusing an outcome wit a desire. If I said that most people would like to earn 150K at their job. You can't come back with "well why do most people earn around 50k, they must not want it".
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/25 03:05 PM
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Do you think you're not already off work to be able to go pick your children up? Not if you have weekends. On top of that, courts are packed, and you're going to wait essentially a full day for a 30 min appointment. You do not need court fees to inforce a previous order. The enforcement is for payment, as long as the state knows the kids are taken care of and they don't have to pay. They don't care. Hell, women can tell you how hard it is to get cops to enforce a restraining order. Sadly, that i…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/25 05:26 AM
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A deadbeat is anyone that doesn't provide a child with the necessary environment to thrive. If you're depriving a child of a parent/ two incomes. You're a deadbeat.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/25 05:33 PM
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Do you think taking a day off of is work free. Do you think court fees are free?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/25 05:25 PM
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Nah, there is no such thing as bad pizza, which all true pizza lovers know. Sex is a little different there is bad sex but if you end up having to find excuses as to why sex is bad you just need to admit you don't like it as much as the next guy. Women don't want this secret to get out because If it did, men would absolutely be justified in asking for one-sided open relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/25 04:04 AM
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Irrelevant, you've deprived a child of having two parents. You're a deadbeat mom.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/25 03:56 AM
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Who's going to enforce it. Does the father need to go to the court house again and spend money on lawyers everytime it's violated. People are living paycheck to paycheck . This is how bad moms get away with this.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/25 03:55 AM
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When a man tries for full custody, it's likely that the mom is so incompetent that the court gives it to him. Also, getting custody doesn't mean that the mother allows the kid to be seen by the father.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/25 04:32 PM
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Yes, there is a single mom by choice movement, though.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/25 04:28 PM
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Massively decreases with age. But maybe in the near future there may be drugs that affect sociability. Decrease autism etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/25 04:27 PM
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So are women just more novelty seeking than men?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/25 04:03 PM
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It's not a shot at lesbians or women. It's just a difficulty that men in relationships have to deal with. I can understand why it happens. Sex is likely to lead to pregnancy in women, and on a biological level, women just need to limit sexual encounters more than men. It kinda hurts that this is the eventual endpoint of most FF and MF relationships. However, such is life.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/25 01:19 AM
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Most animals aren't monogamous. True monogamy is rather rare.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/25 01:16 AM
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Nah, my guess is that since you're young, you haven't been in an incredibly long-term relationship. This study shows that with time that women in a relationship lose sexual desire faster than men.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/25 01:15 AM
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https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/the-passion-paradox/201206/the-ins-and-outs-of-sexual-frequency In one study of 16,000 American adults, the typical participant reported having sex two to three times per month, but those under the age of 40 reported having sex slightly more often (once a week).3 Regardless of age, couples also tend to have sex more frequently in the early stages of their relationships. Among couples in the first two years of their relationships, 67 percent of gay couples,…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/25 01:12 AM
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Almost all good dating advice is also good general advice. Especially for men. The person you're commenting to is right you're dodging because you know he's right.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/25 01:05 AM
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probably in prison Most rapists aren't in prison and the US prison population isn't that large. There isn't enough of a sample bias to make a difference.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/25 12:54 AM
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I've never gotten this. If you're hornier to a narrower range of people, you're not as horny as a person who is horny to a wider range of people. It's like saying I love pizza put only a specific kind of pizza, vs. someone who just likes all pizza. The second guy likes pizza more. I don't know why women fight to be as horny as men? It just doesn't seem to be true. Especially when we look at gay and lesbian couples
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/25 12:47 AM
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If someone would use the word transactional in the context of a relationship? That to get anything you need to do for something. Right, but then here were just talking about the degree of transactionalness. It's not one date for one sexual encounter it's more like if dates stop sex will eventually decrease and vice versa. That is transactional, just not to the highest degree. Instead of both just wanting to do nice things for each other and keeping both needs met You do need to do something in a…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/25 06:39 PM
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Don't get him twisted. Men are fine with sleeping with promiscuous women. They just don't think they're wife material.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/25 06:35 PM
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Is there evidence of this. All op posted where male studies.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/25 05:54 PM
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Why do lesbian women?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/25 05:50 PM
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You said that when people use the world seriously, it has a different meaning. What is that meaning?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/25 05:47 PM
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Have you ever considered why men are taller than women.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/25 05:39 PM
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Excellent question. Blue Pill loves to bury the lead. Men don't care about attraction when a woman is already attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/25 05:37 PM
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Men (37%) in relationships are more than twice as likely as women (14% This is stated vs. revealed preferences. There's a study showing couples are relatively close in attraction to each other. Men saying their wives are more attractive is probably. 1.) Make up 2.) Happy wife, happy life.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/25 05:33 PM
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Men in an "ideal" world would choose multiple women. Women want the best guy they can get. The difference is due to how we reproduce.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/25 05:28 PM
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No, they know that they aren't going to get a better option in terms of sex. We're animals trying to rationalize animalistic behavior.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/25 05:26 PM
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But those younger men have less money/ status and are less stable.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/25 05:18 PM
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people use the word seriously it is used in a completely different way then OP is trying to argue. What is the definition?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/25 08:54 PM
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literally said you can argue that every single action one can take is transactional. I And this is true, at least every interaction with another human being. Transaction isn't a bad word. People just feel dirty using it.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/25 01:50 PM
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Female hate subs get banned because they end up promoting violence against women and criminal behavior. Nope. There is an actual quire from reddit stating that they don't see hatred towards men as discrimination. I can find it for you if you want. Subs like two x are just a bunch of women trauma dumping on each other. Ok, this isn't mutually exclusive to man hating. Notice how you say that him the other poster was excusing the behavior of this sub by calling it niche was bad? You're doing the ex…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/25 07:46 PM
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any reference to it What is "it" what number does she state in the video? There is also no mention of number 2 in the paper you showed me. With regard to false allegations. It's in the insufficient evidence category. You specify the difference in your own post, you lying little coward. It doesn't say 2% of people falsely accused someone it says 2 percent has no way of the evidence making it to court. Absolutely shameless. Blue pill narrative humping liar.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/25 10:38 AM
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shes claims that the 2-8% claim is nowhere to be found No, she claims that she couldn't find the 2.5% that lisak and all cited in their paper and she's right. If anything it's roughly 8 to 12 percent. She's contesting the 2.5 percent lower bound that you uncrititically gobbled up.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/25 08:50 AM
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would argue one is far worse than the other. One cannot result in conviction, a lengthy trial, stress of a trial, public record of a trial, imprisonment ect Again, it can still result in job loss, friend alienation, and suicide. It is literally the analogy of the stab wound and gunshot wound. Ones worst but it doesn't matter because both are bad. You cretin. Expecting me to account random public accusations? idk. complete strawman These are the situations that false rape stats are brought up in.…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/25 08:39 AM
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The consequences of a false allegation are also much lesser when it is informal This just seems like comparing a stab wound to a gunshot wound. It's irrelevant to the point. In the court room this already happens. Rape cases are extremely hard to prosecute. Once again I'm talking about the asinine cases litigated, by blue pillers like you on social media. Just got done with the daniel Greene allegations that were proven to be false. Now mindless brainless chimps are back peddaling to correct the…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/25 07:52 AM
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about rape accusations to the police, I don't even believe this. Have most me too rape cases or most cases in the public eye even gone to court? You're scrabbling to justify a uniquely inane post that hides behind an AI generated word wall.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/25 07:44 AM
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Your central thesis is that false rape allegations are over exaggerated. Then you go on to say that we can never know how many women don't report rape or many women who don't say rescind allegations falsely. But you don't make the opposing argument that there are women who don't report to the police but indeed falsely claim they are raped. This entire post is just special pleading. aydin paladin goes into detail on why these false allegation studies are flawed. Including the lisak study. The big…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/25 06:38 AM
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This is an idiotic take. 17 percent of men make six figures or more. If they're working in a field that is in demand on computer based, they don't have to take an extended vacation. interested in being PPBs for whatever reason, you're probably left with roughly 0.01% These assumptions are laughable. So, at first, you choose 1 percent and then divide it again by 1 percent? The point to all of this is that women are sensitive to guys with money dating out. Low attractive men with money are cash co…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/25 05:52 PM
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First of all Fox News? Lmfaoooo The print version of Fox is actually not bad. Their polling is also excellent.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/25 05:44 PM
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Can you understand that people can change their present behavior temporarily to be ideal? However, past behavior shows a trend in certain negative attributes, and you can use that to make better judgments of a person.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/25 10:14 PM
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past shouldn't burden our judgment What should burden our judgment if we can't use someone's past?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/25 09:47 PM
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Even the explicit verbal consent stuff patronizes women. Very few of us here physically ask to kiss someone. We feel the vive and lean in and see if she does as well. On another level, we definitely don't do it in established relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/25 02:26 PM
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Don't give a shit. No one is going to take these women seriously. Women seem to take guys who fuck around seriously. That's on you guys, not me.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/25 10:54 PM
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People divorce because 1 party didn't keep up their commitment. Yup, if that party is someone who "feels unhappy and unfulfilled" they just shouldn't get married. There are people who aren't meant to be married. Promiscuous people are probably on top of the list. Their dopamine. Receptors are fucked and Need constant stimulation. Just do short-term relationships. Stop ruining the idea of marriage.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/25 10:52 PM
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No my statement was that why are women complaining about situationships at all. If they never saw these guys as relationship material (per your statement), why are there so tiktoks, think pieces, and surveys that demonstrate that women hate their situationships? It doesn’t contradict the notion that the average girl is only immediately hooking up with a guy if they don’t see a future with him The contradiction is that women don't have sex with guys they don't see as long-term partners. Women are…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/25 08:17 AM
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I think your deleted comment made more sense, bud. Anyway, if it was 9/10 and rare, you wouldn't see the Profusion of regret about situationships. You can't honestly tell me that 9/10 situationships end up with women being happy with their decision, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/25 08:06 AM
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or she thinks they could be more Good now we've gotten somewhere. Why does she think they can be more? If you're statement is that most women are just reserving men who don't have long term prospects as fuck buddies.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/25 07:56 AM
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I don't think English is you first language. What depends. Complete sentences and ideas.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/25 07:54 AM
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Harvard links. [unhealthy men actually marry earlier, are less likely to divorce, and are more likely to remarry OK but what's the overall number, are unhealthy men more likely to get married than healthy men? This is a conditionally probability looking at married unhealthy men. Not unhealthy men in general.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/25 07:51 AM
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Can you give me an example of someone who doesn't promise some life-long commitment? I feel like that would be a great sign to not marry.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/25 07:37 AM
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marriage isn't a cage to keep someone trapped in. Why get married then? If it isn't life long and you can leave because you "need to find yourself". Why bother?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/25 07:36 AM
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she doesn't think they're relationship material. Then why are so many women complaining about situationships with guys who just start out as sexual partners?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/25 07:23 AM
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What?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/25 07:20 AM
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immediate sexual attraction What do you think triggers immediate sexual attraction in women. What makes one man immediately sexually attractive and one not?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/25 07:19 AM
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So why are you fucking the fuck boys?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/25 07:15 AM
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Sometimes we take it quickly with someone because they're trivial OK, so what's the incentive for a man who wants to get into a sexual relationship with you? Is it to be serious or to be trivial. Women can't have these standards and complain that guys are fuck unserious fuck boys.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/25 07:00 AM
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serious relationship The fact that you delineate serious vs unserious relationships in it of itself Is the problem. Men don't want to be in serious relationships with women who've had unserious relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/25 06:56 AM
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Surely you must know people already do all of these things. Men leave their sick wives. People leave for being unfulfilled. And people forcefully open relationships. Do you agree that these people have done nothing wrong?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/25 06:39 AM
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They don't , How do you even define free will?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/25 06:07 PM
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See, they have been trying to stop that because it's victim blaming. That's the issue. Every ounce of group accountability is considered victim blaming. What are you the victim of? A bad relationship. Get over it. No one is blaming you for rape. They're asking you to take control of your own life. Sure they do, it's "don't get raped or murdered." That's literally victim blaming. How can you say women are getting away from victim blaming but then say the most victim blamey statement in the world.…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/25 01:23 PM
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Cool, glad I cleared it up
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/25 01:16 PM
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Oh great, so do women Maybe in personally but I'm talking about other women as a group blaming other women. Women don't have a phrase like don't stick your dick in crazy. A phrase that makes them accountable for their decisions.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/25 05:47 AM
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No, porn has a different danger for men it pacifies them into not going out and tackling real challenges. Body dysmorphia can happen to men. It's just more prevalent in women.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/25 05:41 AM
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What about the stats when one partner loses their job in an economic down turn.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/25 10:39 PM
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Oh come on, normal women want children and know the best scenario to do it in is marriage. Are we actually pretending that women in the past and present don't want kids to the same degree as men do?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/25 10:28 PM
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Because me already blame themselves when we fuck up with a girl. " I'm an idiot, I put my dick in crazy" Stop putting your dick in crazy is choose better for men. Women usually say "be better " when complaining about men. So "choose better" is the retort.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/25 10:00 PM
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What woman isn't going to reject these guys (not rhetorical). Name the characteristics that a man should go for when choosing these women?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/25 09:56 PM
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Right women name and complain about the things they hate in the men they choose (he's insensitive, flakey, not true to his word), and when men say "choose better." They choose a hotter guy. When men say choose better, they mean not to choose the guys with the traits you yourself listed. Irrespective of their physical attraction.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/25 09:53 PM
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I think it's related to many women comparing themselves to photosphopped pictures on Instagram and developing a warped sense of their own attraction. I simply extend that to men and relationships. Women see an idealized man, woman, or relationship on the internet, and then it warps their perspective of all three things. That's my hypothesis.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/25 09:46 PM
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The barn door example would work if one party wasn't blaming another for the horse leaving. If some were to say, you should train your horses not to run away. Telling them that they should have shut the barn door is actually good advice for the future. Likewise, men only say, "Pick better after women go on tirades about men "doing better. " The rebuttal pick better is stinging because, in a lot of cases, it's true.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/25 09:37 PM
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Cannot speak for all women I'm just talking about the women who do and noting the difference between male single and female single.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/25 09:20 PM
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have never heard of that being the reason. Rape kits are incredibly invasive, painful, and take hours upon hours It's not about the alleged victim. I'm saying that the perpetrator says that sex happened, so there is no need for a rape kit to be processed. Both the victim and alleged perpetrator agree that sex did, in fact, happen. The alleged perpetrator is just saying it was consensual. think a police officer here once posted they usually only take on extremely violent or ones that test positiv…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/25 09:17 PM
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I don't think it needs to be to keep men and women apart. My guess is that they're blank slatist and gynocentric. They want men and women together but only in a way that maximizes the benefit women get. The men in favor of this, maybe doing it because of genuine ignorance or likely they've learned that agreeing with women gets them benefits in their life.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/25 09:00 PM
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they are literally proven to be true in a court of law with evidence backing them. Those are the rape allegations that get to court, though. We're talking about all allegations, even the ones that are spread online, for instance, but not brought up in a court of law. How do we know if those are true of false.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/25 07:52 PM
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All evidence needs to be entered first. So no, testimony in it of itself isn't evidence.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/25 07:44 PM
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Isn't that because in most rape cases, the accused admits that they had sex with the accuser? A rape kit doesn't prove rape. It proves that sex happened. We still don't know if that sex was consensual or unconsensual. On top of that, if the alleged victim admits to fabricating the case before tests are done. There would be an obvious backlog.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/25 07:36 PM
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I agree with the statement that a system is what it does. However, I would say that what blue pill does is obfuscate any difference or characteristic between men and women that is disfavorable towards women.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/25 04:52 PM
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Different definition of single. Are women willing to forgo situationships and one night stands as well and be truly single?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/25 04:46 PM
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Yes but when we say rule 1 and 2 blue pill women get pressed and start talking about how the bar is in he'll and all you need is to be able to wipe your ass and be nice to get a girl. All of these exist and have been argued, sometimes on this sub. Edit: if you want to ask for proof, tell me what kind and how much you need to change your mind. Because like OP, I have receipts
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/25 10:10 AM
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Everyone has fantasies that they would never pursue in reality. It's pretty normal actually? Were talking about sexual fantasies. Your example of killing people in video games is dumb because the consequence is that you can go to jail. That's the deterent. Rough sex won't kill you. It might hurt, but that's the point for some women.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/25 02:16 AM
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The sub OP references is a sub of fringe lunatics Neither of those subs has 13 million views and is placed on the front page of reddit. Twox is very mainstream. I'm sorry, but saying, "That's just some people isn't going to cut it." Like it or not, a massive chunk of women thinking this way.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/25 02:14 AM
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Yes, but we know that lizard people aren't real. We're the smartest species on our planet. Talking about the desires of men and women, stated and revealed. Is not like a conspiracy theory or farfetched in any way. If it's not interesting to you, don't respond. However, on a dating debate subreddit. People talking about this topic isn't abnormal in any way whatsoever. Especially when OP provides evidence of the phenomena existing.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/25 06:43 PM
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I don't think you are to say that your internal fantasies have NO correlation with what you want. makes no sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/25 06:40 PM
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Reddit takes it seriously enough to put this cesspool on the front page. 13 million women is something we should pay attention too.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/25 05:33 PM
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So what's the point of having a debate sub, why are you participating in this discussion in the first place.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/25 05:32 PM
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Sweetie, I don't think you're smart enough to read what you're posting. Your argued that he thinks women are evil, then you post him, not even saying that he makes a reference to SOCIETY thinking MEN (reread the commennt) are evil because they have a false perception of male/female sexual dynamics.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/25 05:30 PM
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This is the only sane response. What we entertain in fantasy does not correlate to what we want in reality. This is completely asinine. What are you basing this claim of off?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/25 05:20 PM
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I self reported data can be accurate but is temporally specific. I.e it's people's feelings at the moment the survey is given. This can change over time. I think the point the other poster is making is that, people aren't happy enough with their relationships to stay in them and not divorce/break up (divorce stats).
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/25 05:17 PM
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You gotta find out what your specific partner is into. He's not talking about his personal life, though. He's making a statement about society and the broader group. If I said most men like big breasts, the rebuttal that you have to find what your specific partner is into misses the point. Individual vs. group average. Stop personalizing everything.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/25 05:10 PM
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What op is saying is correct a shocking amount of women want rough degrading sex. That doesn't mean it should be assumed, and it shouldn't be consensual. This isn't wrong to admit.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/25 05:05 PM
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u're making gross generalizations about how men are sadists and 'fundamentally sociopathic'. It's a fantasy you invented in your head. Get over it. Ironically, I think women like her subconsciously get off on the thought of "all men" being rapist. They want to feel like all men want them so badly that they can't control themselves. It's a subconscious value signal internally, they say, " If all men are so full of lust they have to rape me, it must be because I'm so attractive that they can't hel…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/25 05:03 PM
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usually social. Married men and fathers are more likely to receive promotions, for example. Unproven nonsense. Your boss doesn't want to give you money as a rule. You're paid for the fact that you're indispensable to a company. Not by how hard you work or how much you need it. Society inherently respects married people more, and caters to married people, Give us an example? Are you confusing bring in a relationship to being married. always find this question kind of funny though - if someone wer…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/25 10:32 PM
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Just going tit for tat sweetheart.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/25 10:06 PM
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Comparing women who willingly have sex with men they find gross because it’s a lucrative business to actual rape victims and slaves Right, they're incomparable because of the consent vs. dislike element.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/25 10:04 PM
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Maybe the men who sleep with you end up doing that.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/25 09:24 PM
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Someone having sex that they don’t want is raped Someone having sex they don't consent to is rape. Someone doing a job they don't consent to Is slavery. Doing something you don't want to is not necessarily rape or slavery so long as you consent.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/25 09:22 PM
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The corollary you're looking for is slavery. Being forced to work even if you don't consent is slavery. With the sex worker, you're just a sex slave/rape victim. You're not making a categorical argument just on degree.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/25 09:21 PM
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This just seems like praising dipshit party girls for having vapid short term flings. You're forgetting that factors outside of "skills" dictate if we have friends or not. I.e being ugly.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/25 08:44 PM
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sex and have a connection have a dead bedroom. 100% his fault that she doesn't want to sleep with him. As it always must be. Right. You know I've never seen a woman who was good in bed be cheated on.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/25 08:38 PM
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How are we measuring social competence? How are we measuring social life activity? Is a bunch of fleeting friendships proof of social competence
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/25 08:37 PM
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Many women and even girls have mentioned that they can sense fake confidence Many men and boys swear they bench press 400 but they can't show it to you because it was only that one time.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/25 08:34 PM
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Oh, please? Can we stop with this magical girl bullshit. Women literally say the opposite when told to pick better. How are women so good at reading fake and real confidence but still complain about men lying about who they are.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/25 08:32 PM
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Isn't this the basis of all contracts, though? A lot of people continue to work only because they're paid. How does sex work differ from this.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/25 08:26 PM
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Can't blame the guy if his wife isn't giving him an ass TBH. You want to get into an exclusive life long commitment where you can't fuck other people but want to pull back? 100% your fault.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/25 06:51 PM
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The feminists prayer 1.) It doesn't exist 2.) If it exists it isn't that prevalent 3.) If it's that prevalent it's men/patriarchy fault for making it. 4.) If it's not all men's fault and women contributed to it, men deserve it as pay back for past oppression
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/25 04:51 AM
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There is no such thing as "us" rape law. Rape is a state level crime. The definition I'm referring to is non legal, but is defined for research purposes by the cdc. This is the origin of the 1/5 women raped stat. The under counting of rape towards men is an issue propagated by bad research. The law is bad, but it's downstream of that. Edit: also read into the links of your source. "Any person subject to this chapter who commits a sexual act upon another person" "A sexual act" is defined as “sexu…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/25 04:42 AM
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Nothing in US law makes rape impossible for women to be charged It's not impossible but unlikely. A woman needs to penetrate a man to rape him. If a woman is raping a man she's enveloping or coercing a man to perform a penetrative sex act on her. This specifically is not classified as rape by the cdc.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/25 10:59 PM
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So misandry is subtle but still present. Or denied but still present?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/25 10:56 PM
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If you are badly abused by one group She wasn't, though. She was abused by individuals, and she has extrapolate it to blaming a group. That's the negative here.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/25 10:53 PM
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Which is what she is expressing. She is struggling against something. Most adjusted people don't struggle against hating entire swaths of humanity.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/25 10:52 PM
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Made to penetrate
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/25 10:50 PM
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It's a balance, highly hypergamous societies turn into harems. You get Afghanistan as your result.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/25 10:41 PM
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How are we measuring social skills.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/25 10:37 PM
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Both cab be true, and I actually do agree. However, the men with the experience aren't going to. 1.) Want to marry 2.) Because of their "experience," it will cheat in your marriage. Life's a cruel mistress.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/25 09:48 PM
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True, I forgot about schrodinger's man
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/25 09:26 PM
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However I am free to argue how women should respond to this. Your argument is that women shouldn't select these men. The original comment you responded to in this thread was correct. It is about calling men insecure for having a standard and a preference.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/25 08:05 PM
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You cared enough to leave a comment and respond, darling. Just take the L.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/25 08:00 PM
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Idk why men like you are so miserable. You can’t even consider the possibility that other men could view the world differently than you do. I love how we can finally distinguish that men have separate thoughts and beliefs. Could have used you in that whole "man vs. bear" debate. I'm not referring to all men, obviously, just enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/25 07:56 PM
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Not talking about you in the personal sense. I should use "one". If one's friends are hoe's, then one is a hoe herself.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/25 07:53 PM
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So the acceptable standard to you is for a man not to ask at all or ask a question that's vague and doesn't even address how many past relationships you've had? Be honest. You want men not to inquire at all. This is why men don't ask directly.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/25 04:26 PM
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My question was twofold, so what is an acceptable level of interest to show in your partner count?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/25 04:17 PM
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A more honest explanation would say that men of a certain age have to accept a promiscuous past, What age do you think men have to accept a promiscuous woman? Are you talking about the age of the man or woman or both?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/25 02:12 PM
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Why would I date a man who asks me about my sexual history The ones who don't care either have no option, or they want to use you for sex aren't thinking about long-term investment. Discerning men won't tell you or mention it. Religious guys will. Watch out for the guys who cheer on promiscuity as " empowerment". Those guys are pandering and want to sleep with you. This is advice I'd give to any sister or daughter in my family. Men do think this way.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/25 02:04 PM
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These men likely have no options. These will end up in divorce soon enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/25 01:58 PM
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Discerning men find out in covert ways. We don't need to ask. If your friends are hoes, you're one too.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/25 01:57 PM
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If a man is overly interested in your sexual history, leave him? What does "overly" interested mean? Versus an acceptable amount of interest?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/25 01:56 PM
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not necessarily, So, to translate, you've dated one person who wasn't your type but was fun, and you got bored after a bit and left?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/25 08:57 AM
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Men don't complain about the consequences of them being hoes because there aren't any. Women still date and marry these men. There's nothing to complain about.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/25 04:46 AM
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Look at your local sex offender registry To be fair, didn't we have an entire movement of well to do men who were raping women in 2018? I think undesirable guys are probably more likely to be caught. Kinda like a halo effect for rape.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/25 04:42 AM
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You prefer the personality of people who already pass a pre determined looks threshold. Be honest
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/25 04:34 AM
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Yes. That is part of the definition of admiration. Most people don’t admire those who can do something that they can already do easily. You're not understand it's relative to their own skill in that particular area. If women, for example, are hypergamous for wealth. It's not sufficient to make enough money. You'd need to make more money than her and ideally more money than the average men/ men around her. Your definition is just a woman liking a trait about a man. Liking red hair isn't hypergamy…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/25 10:09 PM
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What does "some" mean? What's an example of feminists showing hatred of men. If you want to malign the group, you'd have to show it's more than just a few bad apples.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/25 09:55 PM
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thats the case for all human beings. No men are pretty poignant in stating that physical attractiveness is something they care about. No guy is saying he just wants a woman who can wipe her ass and is kind. Hell, when men say and go into specifics on the exact body type they prefer. Women call it objectification and body shaming.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/25 09:52 PM
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Can you give me a concrete example? 1. She's for the streets/recreational use only. 2. Landwhale. Look you don't have to date a fat woman. But why kick someone when they are down? And mock them? They are fat leave it be. 3. Can't turn a hoe into a housewife. 4. She hit the wall 5. You're going to die alone with cats. Women doing anything not focused on men No of men shaming women for their preferences. E.g, a woman likes a tall man, and men shame her for that. Yes, men make fun of women sometime…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/25 09:49 PM
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If this were true, the people responding would call them rude or crass or mean. However, constantly, you see defense of promiscuity and obesity ( the body positivity movement) in order to counter the preferences that men have. Also, let's not pretend that women don't make fun of men with their preferences. Short jokes, dick jokes, broke jokes.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/25 09:38 PM
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Oh, fair enough, I think I wanted to write a non combative bit. I went with non femininity. I've fixed it, thanks.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/25 09:34 PM
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Women shame men for being assholes about their preferences and dehumanizing/demonizing women who don't. They do. There are dozens of Manlet jokes, small dick jokes, and broke jokes (for guys who want to go 50/50) If God forbid we want to date someone we are attracted to I just really don't characterize this as a male thing. Can you give me a concrete example? I can find like 10 of women shaming male preferences. I really think you're projecting female shaming tactics onto men. We know that women…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/25 06:59 PM
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Women who are combative and disagreeable.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/25 06:53 PM
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OK, i don't doubt individuals can say it. It's just not a phenomenon that's social.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/25 04:09 PM
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No shame here. Like what you like. It's no news to me that men generally prefer thin women. That's not what I stated. I don't care if you're shaming men or not. I'm just pointing out an entire societal movement that does the same for men. men can't cheer for other men when they are happy. I didn't address it because it's unfalsifiable. You haven't shown how it's a societal phenomenon. You gave a couple of anecdotes without receipts. It's like me saying that women can't be happy about other women…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/25 04:08 PM
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You not liking the answer doesn’t mean it’s not an answer. The answer doesn't address the question it's a thought terminating cliche (look up the term). no one mentioned a single thing about life being unfair. The OP asked and made an observation about women. He's looking for answer on why this is happening on a male female debate sub. If people responded with "life isn't fair" to every question posed, we'd have no sub.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/25 04:03 PM
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I'm sorry, but I'd have to see the comments. Women (love them) are, on average, more neurotic. A neutral statement on the rarity of your choice can be interpreted as hate. What exactly did they say.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/25 03:52 PM
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married my bad boy husband and still got told by a dude i should be shamed. So, one guy told you should be ashamed. But there is literally an entire movement shaming men for liking non obese women. "Societal beauty standards are toxic"
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/25 03:50 PM
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Walk around with you dick out, and they might.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/25 03:46 PM
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dont think is that difficult to understand. No, it's easy to understand women if you just add "of the men I'm attracted too" to every statement they make about men or attraction. I prefer personality over looks "of the men I'm attracted too".
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/25 03:45 PM
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Men only berate women when they say all men are trash after dating a bad boy.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/25 03:36 PM
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Can you give me even one example? Are men calling you shallow or just that your preferences are rare.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/25 03:35 PM
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People aren't as different as you think. Even across culture and gender. Symmetrical faces, smooth skin, and strong white teeth (not too white) are pretty universal. When there are gender differences, it's because of different risks that women and men face. Women are vulnerable during pregnancy, so security and protection are important to them. Height, resources, and confidence.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/25 03:34 PM
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You are called shallow anyways by guys who don't meet those preferences I think this is a projection. The worst I've heard is that "you don't qualify for those guys" or, more commonly, "those men are rare, what do you bring to the table. Women shame men's preferences, whether it be non promiscuity, non obesity, or femininity. Edit: non removed
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/25 03:30 PM
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This is a non answer. With the same logic, you've tried to shame men when they say they don't want to date single moms and promiscuous chick's. The point of this sub is to ask questions and debate why you are even here if you don't want to answer interesting questions?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/25 03:26 PM
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150 women is an adequate sample size. You saying this is showing you have no clue on how to interpret a study.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/25 03:22 PM
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These include men who got married well before the advent of social media. It's beyond irrelevant to current dating dynamics
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/25 05:27 AM
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Yeah but the blue pill would describe those feminists as one of individuals and not characteristic of the movement. Are you saying there is a significant part of feminism that hates men?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/25 05:13 AM
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The basic TRP belief is that women are only sexually attracted to “alpha men”. Even if were going to use this bastardized version of TRP (,it's a strawman you can easily defeat) we'd still have to define an alpha. And at a basic level, an alpha is just a man who has sexual options women just have to admire something about a man” (this is my belief This is not hypergamy, though. Hypergamy would be a woman admiring a man for something that he is better than her at doing or being. That would be bas…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/25 05:11 AM
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So, in the 1930s, before the war, you'd say the people ran society were the guys in factories manufacturing cars? Because that's what women were doing. When I think of running society I think of politicians, business CEOs, even managers to an extent. Women weren't that in the 1940s. Young women filled the rolls for young men. Young men have no real power in society, old men do.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/25 05:06 AM
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You cite one example. There are literally dozens upon dozens of examples in female smut. The omegaverse genre involves dominants borderline abusing submissives. I actually give you two examples, including the Luigi fan fiction. Personally, I do find the "alpha" type in romance pretty tiresome Other women don't, Christians, Luigi, and omegaverse are still popular as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/25 05:02 AM
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Fantasies realized are nightmares. Have you ever known a man to fantasize about being in a horrible physical fight or even war where he emerges the hero? Little boys play that game. We're talking about only fantasy here. The poster above alluded to women not liking fantasies with asshole men. I gave her two stark examples to counter that. As to your point on realized fantasy's, yeah, women don't want their boyfriend to be assholes to them. But if they act that way to others, plenty of women are …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/25 04:59 AM
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men who aren't assholes. Christian Grey literally stalked Anastasia to her work. He's a degenerate asshole and women still flick their bean to him because he's hot and rich. Let's stop pretending that women are moral in everything they do. I mean, there's fan fiction of that Luigi guy on wattpad. It's one thing to be aloof to the killing it's another to literally jack off to him.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/25 09:22 PM
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Or maybe autism and linear thinking is useful in tech and engineering, and women aren't like that in general. It's OK to be different
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/25 10:02 AM
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Men still ran society during both world wars. Old men aren't drafted.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/25 09:59 AM
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All these can be summed up to him. He wasn't hot enough. Women pretend to be so complex, but they have one two buttons. So do men but we don't say other wise.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/25 09:48 AM
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If feminism isn't egalitarian, then what is it.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/25 09:42 AM
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OK, but what is TRP describing them as? In order to counter TRP beliefs. Blue killers use arguments. For example if I say that women are hypergamous. The blue pill retaliation isn't just "nuh uh". They'll bullshit me about people marrying at their level while not understanding the differences between desire and outcome. Same being true with height. Blue pill doesn't want to have an ideology so it can't be criticized. However, there's a common thread amongst the rebuttals. It's just to stifle red…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/25 09:40 AM
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As much as blue pill would like to believe this. Since the red pill does have a core philosophy of amoral truth seeking on human mating behavior. The blue pills goal seems to be to obfuscate and hide any objective average differences between men and women. At least to the extent that they expose women's negative dating behavior. Blue pillers are just a living embodiment of the blank slate philosophy.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/25 09:34 AM
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Look up AidanaGates, DominiqueKalem on IG. They aren't bad looking women. I just wouldn't fund their lives. The men you talked to are correct. No offense to those women on IG, but they wear a lot of makeup. It's just an aesthetic that most guys don't like. I think your friend is female gaze pretty. Not male gaze, I'd make you my wife and willing to take care of you. They look older for their age in a very angular and taught way. This is no offense to your friend. I'm sure she looks good. However…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/25 02:55 AM
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She doesn’t care to date them. She’s not the one asking them on dates lol. Then, in what context is she learning their standards are too high? She simply stated that average looking/earning men have higher beauty standards than above average looking men/rich men that provide. She didn't say average, stop retconning. Your "friend" found out she's not worth the price she's advertising. Her dates that she chose told her so, and now that they burned her that badly, she probably is thinking they're l…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/25 10:50 PM
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Some sugar daddies are handsome and fit if they took care of themselves. They certainly have the money to. Of you have to sling money it's unlikely you're attractive. Leading with your wallet is the safe haven of ugly men. Yeah my friend says she prefers her sugar daddies over those men her age anyways- them looking better or younger won’t make her want to go 50/50 in a relationship This is irrelevant. We're talking about the fact that these are separate groups. Your friend was asking hot men he…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/25 01:14 AM
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You think the only thing you earn in life is money? Right there. There’s your problem. In the context of gender dynamics and power, it's probably the most prominent. It was what we were talking about. Tell me if it's not economically related what are some other things in life that we" earn". Also no one cares about the “drop outs” every generations had losers The issue would be to say these losers in this generation still have more privilege than some of the most powerful women on the planet.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/25 01:05 AM
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Look up what the HALO effect is with regard to arrogance
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/25 12:56 AM
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realistic beauty standards than the men her age (20s) How do those men look? Of course an older sugar daddy is going to fluff up a younger woman he's essentially giving money to fuck. It's all that loser can get. I can almost guarantee that she's talking about hot guys she's trying to Date in her age range. This is just a halo effect. A handsome guy is confident, an average or ugly guy is arrogant
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/25 12:54 AM
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Yeah, blue pill assume all behavior is culturally driven so they can't fathom that women naturally wouldn't want to be as promiscuous as men. When you allow promiscuity in a society. You just get harems .
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/25 12:49 AM
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The blame doesn’t come to those who have shown they aren’t the problem False, all men were literally blamed for abortion rights being taken away, and trump brought in power to the point a 4B movement was created after the election. This won't continue, if the left wants to keep blaming young men on the issues created by older generations, you're going to get more stay at Homer's Get. To. Earning. Young men still earn more than young women pal. We're just sick and tired of it going to programs th…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/25 12:41 AM
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None of the historical power” This doesn't mean that the historical power ought to be given. It's just descriptively true that young men don't have that power, so it makes no sense to blame the men alongside the men who did. You read into something that wasn't there.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/25 07:59 PM
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No, not independent to betas. If a woman fucks one guy NSA and makes the other marry her for mediocre sex. The latter is a beta. The former is an alpha. However, men marrying or fucking women in it of itself doesn't make an " alpha" . The don't exist. they're a construct to explain a dynamic.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/25 07:57 PM
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Can you explain this quote in context with anything I wrote? Did I imply men deserved anything unearned.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/25 07:54 PM
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was vulnerable with her about my chronic disease multiple sclerosis, This is a vulnerability, but something you have no control over. No one can use it against you. lied about my age with my current partner I don't see how age is a vulnerability, it just makes you creepy for doing it.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/25 07:04 PM
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Nah, have you seen the collaborators, scrawny puny. Tea drinking beta males. I bet women bust men out just to get a whiff of actual testosterone. Every woman will be a collaborator if this happens.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/25 06:56 PM
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True story, it's why you haven't posted a counterargument.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/25 06:53 PM
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There is no such thing. Those are just the handsome sociopaths that women like to pretend all men are. Good societies are built on good men serving their families. The more men you can get to buy into this, the better your society.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/25 06:52 PM
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No we were raised on stories of good heroines and competent women. We were raised to believe that women were just as good as men and the world should be an equal playing field. When we got to the old world, however, we were blamed for the actions of older men that we played no part in. That's the disenfranchisement of young men. All the blame, none of the historical power.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/25 06:33 PM
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Everything you've said here, I could say about modern women. With more evidence to back it up. The most protected class on the planet is the western white woman. Yet they still say they're oppressed.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/25 06:30 PM
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If not reciprocated, it is. Also if you're the second option after a woman has had her fun. In general, men do want to be useful to the right woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/25 06:28 PM
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Dumb question, Who would put them in jail? 😆
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/25 06:25 PM
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Being "vulnerable with someone" means openly sharing your true feelings, thoughts, fears, or insecurities with another person without shielding yourself from potential emotional risk. Yes, those true feelings often involve and include the things that make you susceptible to emotional attacks. Sharing your foot fetish king is kinda weird, but at the very low end of vulnerability. YOU personally are never going to share about all the times you've lied to women to get intimate with them. We both kn…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/25 11:11 PM
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No. That's not what I said. Answer the question Indeed. Nothing about that says cying means you're emotionally unstable Ok, would you prefer, emotionally dysregulated? That's not what the quoted study is about. You said the numbers were replicated repeatedly. Where? Click his link. It's a meta-analysis. I just explained it to you. It's a number derived by combining multiple studies. The studies used are in the article. There's also measures for heterogeneity.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/25 06:26 PM
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Tl;dr: respond to the either the last paragraph or the obvious point of my analogy in the last comment. Stop ducking. Apps do have BMI indicator Yeah, yeah, yeah.... angles can be deceptive, people can use old photos, etc., but it's even easier to lie about height. So you've explained all the reasons why photos don't work well as a height and BMI indicator and still want to use it as an argument? You've defeated your own argument. I'm obviously talking about a numerical BMI alongside numerical h…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/25 06:21 PM
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Erectile dysfunction is a medical condition caused by any number of factors. One of those factors can also be psychological. Why can't we speculate on wives becoming a bit too heavy over time and making their husbands dick go soft. But we can speculate that a woman who isn't satisfied in bed is not communicating with her husband or may have a medical condition as well? he's only attracted to young women? Is it because his wife destroyed her body to give birth to his children? Men will still slee…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/25 06:10 PM
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No they don't Crying doesn't mean you're unstable anyway Do you think there are more murdered or broken nail/frivolous cries? Honestly, crying when you don't need to is irrational. It's why we have the expression "don't cry over spilled milk". There is a time and a place for every emotion, I don't laugh at a funeral speech, I don't rage out at a comedy show, and we don't need to cry over frivolous things. Emotional regulation is learning to apply emotion when it's appropriate in terms of setting…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/25 05:55 PM
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Especially not if you regulate them well Most men don't murder people, so the vast majority aren't violent. A larger number of women break down and cry every month because they broke a nail. The main one being its self reported That's not a flaw, I'm willing to bet you've cited self reported studies yourself. Scientists obviously know people can lie. But if the same numbers come up over and over again, it's hard to believe that people are lying in the exact same way and amount over and over agai…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/25 05:39 PM
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What do you think the word vulnerability means. Just strict dictionary definition? If it doesn't make you feel a little worthless, it isn't a vulnerability. You're playing with words.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/25 05:33 PM
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Telling her that you have a foot fetish You have got to be kidding me. You tell her the most benign (probably made up) kink about yourself? I knew it, guys like you pretend to be vulnerable with the most benign ammo that you're willing to divulge and then pretend that you're the world's biggest hero. Vulnerability is actually divulging weakness that women can use against you. Men don't do it because women often do use it against men. No one cares about your foot fetish. It's the silliest vulnera…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/25 05:30 PM
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You have harem on your profile, bud. You don't care if the women stay. You're another blue piller who's "vulnerable" with women to get in their pants, but you're never going to marry these girls. You're not invested at all. Stop lying to them.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/25 05:24 PM
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It's all guns are loaded, or all men are bad that women use. As well. Not all women will do this, of course, but a large enough number that it's not worth it to attempt.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/25 05:21 PM
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And orgasming too early is a sign of pleasure So, is erectile dysfunction a sign of displeasure ? Is a woman not sexy enough to get her man up anymore. Why isn't ED blamed on women, with the expectation for them to get sexier. The issue is the double standard all sexual dysfunction is blamed on men unilaterally. Because men are the ones so desperate to have sex with women. Women on this sub have sworn up and down to me that men and women have the exact same sexual desire. There are no difference…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/25 05:14 PM
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my date was Iyou aren't with this man, are you? Women say these kinds of things are what they want, but their behavior says otherwise. 😆
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/25 01:44 PM
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usually the exact opposite that’s happening—they orgasm too quickly. Ok, even in this scenario, blame is still placed on the man to perform, work on semen retention, or if he has ED he needs to fix that. Any male problem whether biological or not is placed in him. because biologically that’s how male anatomy tends to work Ok, so why are men blamed when women can't orgasm. Instead of biology? And why aren't women expected in the same way as men to work on their biological hang ups?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/25 02:46 AM
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Thank you. Blue pill will deny this till they're blue in the face.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/25 02:37 AM
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absolutely nothing This would be like having a BMI indicator on dating apps. If most men had a sub 25 BMI preference on dating apps. You're telling me that would say nothing about the women they want to date? Even if they dated and tucked bigger women?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/25 02:34 AM
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It's her responsibility to vet her partners. To look for signs that they may be problematic. It's like defensive driving. It's not my fault if someone swerves into my lane, however it's still my responsibility to monitor my mirrors and watch out for behavior that may indicate a driver Is reckless. Women and men need to do that.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/25 06:09 PM
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You're responsible for not being in that relationship. You need to do work on how you got in that. Men and women. I love how you're only bringing up men as if I'm being sexist.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/25 04:53 PM
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Women (not all) really can't take criticism of how they negatively contribute to gender dynamics.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/25 04:51 PM
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can't get into a relationship. But you can see how the men women are complaining about IN a relationship are not the men who CAN NOT get IN a relationship. That's just basic causal logic, and it's what the post and multiple people have tried to explain to women. These are the men YOU have chosen to be in a relationship with. YOU ignored major character flaws because of traits you found attractive. Also, when women give dating advice , it is through the eyes of already being inside the relationsh…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/25 04:49 PM
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bunch of men out there, thanks in large part to their personal reasons, are not good partners. And a bunch of women out there complain, that a large amount of men are not good partners. The men trying to get into a relationship aren't the men being said to be bad partners. You connect the dots. I swear women can't see that it's literally the men they're choosing. These guys are saying I'm having a hard time getting into a relationship, not being in one. Y'all are allergic to accountability.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/25 02:35 PM
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It is, as is the inverse for guys. It's always at least partially the other party's fault
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/25 02:31 PM
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You have to use a sweet "tone" for women to understand it. UwU ok?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/25 02:27 PM
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That is a demonstrable fact. I know, autism is 2.7 percent of the population. Stuttering effects 1 percent. We can round up to 4% . That's the population you're dealing with when it comes to oral fluency problems. That seems to fall in line with the variability hypothesis.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/25 01:23 AM
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Right but let's not make an ecological fallacy. Most firefighters are men, but most men aren't fighters. I think this is what men are saying.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/25 10:13 PM
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There are more violent men than women. But that depends on how we measure violence. The delta isn't that large. In the middle. It's massive at the extremes.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/25 10:09 PM
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Ok, why the disparity in fields that require a mastery in oral fluency. Comedians, politicians, YouTubers. I think like most things, it's just that there are more men at the top and bottom.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/25 09:51 PM
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4B movement proved it.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/25 06:40 PM
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You made the crucial mistake of being born with a dick between your legs. Instant + 1 Blame. Try again in your next reincarnation.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/25 06:39 PM
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Hey, an ad hom. Glad you can admit you don't have an argument.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/25 12:05 PM
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See what, we're comparing making non categorical statements that not all women do to something that women here said that men do so often that they'd rather confront a wild animal. You're making OPs point right now.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/25 11:40 AM
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If I telll you “all men are stupid”, you would already disengage because that’s a ludicrous statement. This is exactly what women do. The bear debate was about the average man being more dangerous, one v one compared to bear. Women on this very sub called us incels. Men on the other hand, sometimes specifically spell out not all and still get comments saying that there is mysoginy.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/25 01:53 AM
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The man v bear thing is literal misandry. It's a categorical statement that implies that the average man is more likely to harm you than the average bear. Also, please don't site low bear attacks. I've argued against why this is dumb.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/25 10:57 PM
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Tone can not be an excuse to mitigate actual messages that's being conveyed. It's not objective, and anyone upset by the message can always argue "tone" to disengage from the argument.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/25 10:53 PM
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Love is a willingness and choice to care for another person. If another person isn't reciprocating, they don't love you. You don't need to love them. Reciprocating doesn't mean 1 to 1 nickel and dime. But you need to feel like they are giving enough care to keep you in the relationship. People who think otherwise are selfish and just want to take.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/25 06:34 PM
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Yes if dad has enough money that he has a private jet and a mansion, it makes sense to try and keep the kid from being in a mansion half the time and an apartment and a city bus the other half Again, I'm not saying a child has to be destitute. I'm saying we choose a statutory cap that we can all agree keeps a child in a middle-class environment or above environment. The child is entitled to that. It's not entitled to luxury no matter what the reason Is. New York has a statutory cap of around 180…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/25 09:57 PM
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think that anyone who qualifies for child support exceeding $180,000 is in a very good position to advocate for their own circumstances Nope, this is what y'all always do. You asked me for what i thought would be a good child support policy. I gave you a feasible policy that's already in place in at least one state. Now, you want to say we shouldn't do it because someone else can waste their own legal fees to get that outcome. No, this is a law that I want on the books to ensure that judges or m…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/25 09:48 PM
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As long as that quality isn't affecting the needs of the child, it shouldn't matter. If dad has a private jet it doesn't mean that mom should have one too. To keep things equal for the child. I like the idea of a CAP on child support set on twice the median income for the state. 180,000 in the state of New York. Doesn't matter if Dad's a millionaire and mom is homeless. The most she can get per year is 180,000. Most people marry within their own socioeconomic milieu so this almost never happens …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/25 07:04 PM
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Cool beans. Don't have any arguments, then.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/25 06:56 PM
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Do you agree with a cap on child support. For example, in New York, it's 180,000 dollars. With the exception of other provable expenses.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/25 06:45 PM
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This just isn't true, certainly not across the board. Child support is for the needs of the child. It's not to bring the environments of the two parents in parity. Mom is responsible for her apartment house and car. Dad is responsible for making sure that every need related to the child is upkept. If mom can't pay for housing, the kid needs to go with dad because she is being a deadbeat.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/25 06:38 PM
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No that’s a form of autism Individuals aren't patterns, but you can see patterns amongst groups of people. This is what I'm saying. How do you think they diagnose autism if psychologists don't notice similarities in autistic people. How is any disorder diagnosed unless you notice a pattern of people having difficulties with certain aspects of life? These observations can be made about normal everyday interactions. I don't think I'm autistic but I seem to have infinitely more social understanding…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/25 02:09 AM
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No, because that’s now how people work, what you think is a 4, someone else might think them a 10. It can. But you're talking in possibilities, not probabilities. A 5 foot 4 Indian janitor is going to be found attractive by the vast majority of women. Because some attractiveness is universal. Symmetry, straight teeth, clear skin, etc. Some physical traits are universally attractive to one sex. A man with wide hips is not going to be attractive to most straight women. But a woman with the same tr…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/25 05:05 PM
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Nope. The equivalent of a sex doll is a sex doll We're not talking about physical equivalence. They're different objects, but I don't think people who eat apples are immoral while people eating oranges aren't. They're both fruit. Likewise, people who have sex with a sybian and those who have sex with this sex doll aren't morally different even though the two objects are physically different. , if not as dangerous Why is this product dangerous? And why would male female sexuality it more dangerou…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/25 09:57 PM
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You really don't. Because compared to a dildo/vibratory. There is no difference between the two on a moral level. You're rationalizing a primal emotion with modern sensibilities.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/25 09:50 PM
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They're not advocating for women actually doing the act reluctantly. The argument from men is that they just want a partner who would be equally willing to do something in her past with him. I agree that women may have been doing it because they were younger and wanted to keep a man. But this is basically an argument for not dating promiscuous women or freaks? Because you never know if she's not engaging in the act because she likes you less or that she's just never liked it.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/25 09:12 PM
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No, you don't find someone fucking a robot creepy. You find a guy doing it to be creepy. A woman getting fucked by a sybian isn't creepy to you. Nor is a fuck machine. Let's all just admit what's really happening here. Sex is an important motivator in society that women control. Any form of male gratification that isn't a woman providing sex in exchange for male resources is going to raise the tackles of women and some men.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/25 08:48 PM
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Why have a robot when a woman can just pick up any autistic guy? Heyoooo, shots fired. But seriously, women want a guy who can naturally converse with them during sex. On top of providing resources to them. Male sex bots are only getting sold to gay men.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/25 08:44 PM
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Obviously, we're talking about why it's morally bad or wrong. A sybian isn't the same thing as a dildo. However, I don't think equating them when talking about sex toys is disingenuous. The argument is that some women will think this is wrong, but unless they can argue why a sex bot is morally wrong and a sybian isn't, they're just mate gaurding. On top of that, we know that male sex toys period are seen as far more creepy than even the equivalent female. Version. E.g pocket pussy vs dildo. It's…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/25 08:38 PM
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How are measuring hard core here? No one thinks it's literally physically the same thing as a vibrator. But in terms of moral disgust. How is this different from a woman owning a sybian or fuck machine because she's into bdsm? That woman isn't seen as a loser?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/25 08:23 PM
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I’ve yet to see an ugly man get ridiculed for his choices If women go after short men who want high standards. Do you think they're going to give a fat, ugly, pimple faced loser a pass? good example is when they deliberately reduce people to numbers eg your a 4, This is a ranking of attraction, I know it's hard for women to separate their physical beauty from their moral worth. But that is indeed the case that they are separate. A person with low mate value is not sub human. They just aren't att…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/25 08:13 PM
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You can buy female torsos and all that So the only effective difference is that this is a full body to fuck and not just a torso and somehow that's wrong? What people responding to you hear are saying is that there is no fundamental difference between the sex toys women use (they also have torso's with dicks) and this robot. Are we really arguing that there should be 1 to 1 sex toy parity where women have to have a version first before it's morally permissible for men to have one. Why are sexbot…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/25 08:05 PM
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Women will hate them because they don't have status.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/25 04:56 PM
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Ok what about fuck machines and Syrians. Why can't we compare sex robots to those. What's the male equivalent to those contraptions?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/25 04:56 PM
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Great example with Sybians and probably fuck machines too. This is pure mate value gaurding. Edit: sybians from syrians
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/25 04:53 PM
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An incredibly important lesson that people need to learn, understand and consistently implement these days is that what you see online, is not representative of the real world, or real people. This is such a dumb take. I would argue that the internet is more real than real life. With regards to people's opinions. Anonymity allows you to be free to say what you truly think. With such a massive amount of America online. Where is this distortion of reality coming from? We just don't want to admit t…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/25 04:49 PM
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Men who can get laid easily (I guess you are thinking of them when reffering to men that women want) wont use a robot. This is like saying women who get laid easily don't have vibrators. It's pure and utter fantasy. From blue pillers who want to ignore reality.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/25 04:42 PM
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Red pillers believe women have their own standards then. Unless you're arguing that when ugly men want a 10/10 model and they're ridiculed by women, they're being dehumanized and not seen as people. RP people respect the fact that women have their own standards. Some even embrace it. Can you give me an example when RP tried to control standards of women?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/25 03:57 PM
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Your dad's an idiot, a woman doesn't become easy by asking a guy out she looks easy when she comes of as promiscuous.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/25 07:13 AM
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Exactly that’s my point. It’s true that women prefer rich men yet men who are far from rich get married every day. I think you ladies need to understand the difference with between happy settling and unhappy settling. Finances are the number one reason for divorce. And half of people divorce. The question is for women/promiscuous women. Everyone settles, but are you happy settling? The cheating and divorce stats will tell the tale.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/25 08:30 PM
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They told you she was a slut? The guys. If that's true, they're saying she's a slut for them. How do women fuck this up? No guy is bragging about his girlfriend fucking other dudes except for cucks.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/25 06:54 PM
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No, you picked up on the subtle cues that women give when they're attracted to men. I noticed how you didn't say they asked him out. I know women think their cues are enough, but they're not. Ask him out if you want him.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/25 06:50 PM
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So in your world promiscuous women never get in relationships or married? Lol. In the real world, there are men desperate enough not to care. Or women will downplay it. Fat women get married, but that doesn't mean it's what men want.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/25 06:48 PM
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I know, lovely, isn't it. 2 years of experience to get an entry-level job. You have to love the capitalism of female dating strategy.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/25 06:46 PM
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Your forgetting the main thing, redpillers don’t view woman as “real” people What does it mean to view women as "real people"? Please explain. How does this differ with how they treat men?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/25 06:06 PM
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This is such a fucking tiring stereotype Really ? who do you think is the hold out on everyone adopting prenups? I'm pretty sure more men would agree that prenups are great than the sky is blue. This is such a fucking tiring stereotype. Have you actually investigated why people divorce? Do you think it’s because women just decide one day they need to go flit off to Italy? No. Because divorce is painful No, but plenty get into marriages because weddings are a dream of theirs. But they didn’t thin…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/25 10:35 PM
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It's enough to change the culture, though. Prenups are more normalized because everyone knows someone who has one.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/25 10:23 PM
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Do they know she's slutty, how do you know their slutty?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/25 06:30 AM
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If they aren't significant, it's not relevant. Give us an example.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/25 06:21 AM
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Talking isn't enough. Ask them out. There are tons of content creators talking about how men should approach. Even women on this very post. Obviously, those women wouldn't approach a man even if he was attractive. That's what we're addressing.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/25 06:14 AM
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Waaaht, people are more honest when they're anonymous?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/25 06:05 AM
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single guy who cares about a woman's sexual history and how it's only an online thing and automatic red flag yada yada. Yeah, it definitely gives single mom raised with any brothers she has, also raised by a single mom. Oh well, they'll love the quality of relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/25 06:03 AM
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This is actually also not true though. Neither men or women care that much about promiscuity if the person is hot enough rich enough etc… Just be literally top 0.5%, bro, easy. The downfall to this logic is that most people don't fit this bill.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/25 05:52 AM
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Getting assaulted without consent Is something I've had happen to me. It's not a flex. Always making this personal and about skill issue is downright toxic and is exactly the sexual double standard were talking about. Women should go up and talk to the men they want. That gets results. Putting it all on men. You get results by being pro-active.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/25 05:41 AM
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Your question was, "What has led you to believe it needs balancing" I'm not talking about any other comment you made besides that. Look at that specific comment you made and define "what your interpretation of the word "balancing" is. You used the word in this sentence. What did YOU mean by it.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/25 01:59 AM
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Your original question is "What led you to believe it needs balancing?" In the question I've quoted above. How are you defining and using the word balancing.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/25 01:45 AM
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gives off a lack a confidence Why only towards men though. The prompt is for women to ask men out more. Especially when they like the guy. Instead of waiting. So why are you only calling out men for being indecisive and unconfident. Women love the chase just as much as men do. Ok, so then ask the guy out. twiddling his thumbs nervously, too scared to walk over and even talk to her. No one here has said this. We're talking about a guy who may not have you on his radar or doesn't know you. Go up t…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/25 01:43 AM
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Not butthurt, just calling it the way I see it. Why do you think men who want women to ask out more are relatively less attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/25 01:35 AM
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Well as the zoomer women start to outearn zoomer men I’m sure they will be convinced. It's never gonna happen. Anyhow, it's moot because women still want to marry men who earn more than them. You ladies need to convince yourselves that marriage is a business contract, and no, you can't torpedo someone's finances just because you need to find yourself in divorce. One thing I hope is the incoming trump administration (yes. I voted for kamala). Instead of making it harder to leave marriage, just di…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/25 01:32 AM
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How are you defining balancing?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/25 01:26 AM
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Hahaha, good to see you still haven't found an argument against this statement. Every time I bring it up, you deflect.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/25 01:26 AM
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Prenups should just be normalized. I wonder who we have to convince in order to normalize them?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/25 01:22 AM
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That's because "most people" are likely in a given socioeconomic class depending on how you define it. Take tax brackets, for example. The 45k to 95k tax bracket. Literally contains 1/3 people. So, of course, a lot of people are going to be married in the same tax bracket. It's like saying that most Americans marry Americans. If you ask why, people may come up with reasons like shared culture and language and common interests. However, the most obvious answer is that most Americans live in Ameri…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/25 01:20 AM
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The wealthiest, highest class men are also older men. Older generation are more likely to marry.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/25 01:11 AM
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The women complaining that dating sucks right now. Women who post on this very sub.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/25 12:53 AM
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Where do you get off saying this? Why do you always have to subtly shame any difference in a dating dynamic that goes against your MO. You like the current dating dynamic because you get to fuck women and allow them to believe that the man of their dreams will still want them after you're done.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/25 12:52 AM
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It’s a common knowledge. This is where you went wrong. Knowledge isn't very common. Heuristics and half truths are.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/25 12:07 AM
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I guess just the ones that are so blatantly obvious you can't dismiss them.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/25 12:06 AM
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There is orgasm gap and penetration doesn’t provide orgasms to most women. Myths like this need to stop and is what in part OP is talking about. Most women can orgasm from penetration. More women orgasm from both penetration and manual stimulation.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/25 10:38 PM
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I almost think that Teen Vogue was a psyop. "Stick and ice cube up his ass" is not good advice. I digress, though. There wasn't really a social pressure to read Teen Vogue. Sex and the city, on the other hand? Brought all the negatives tropes op was talking about to bear. If we were a society that read more I'd agree with you. But teen vogue was only for doctor's office boredom. Same with shudder cosmo.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/25 10:35 PM
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literally just said they are boring. Yes, but the societal trope is that the woman is always correct in bed. So it's not her fault it's yours. Hence, she's bored not boring. If any man complains, it's labeled a skill issue, and he should just get better. It really hurts both men and women because women have few incentives to get better or communicate what they want because " he's just supposed to get it, and if it's bad, it's his fault."
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/25 10:29 PM
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just biologically Wah, don't let the blue pill/feminist hear you say that. Any sexual difference between men and women is societal and only societal.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/25 10:23 PM
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The fact that men have a unique social pressure doesn’t mean women have it easy. Can we stop negating every male social problem with" women have it too" In this area, in the past two decades, the OP is correct. There really is no or no equivalent pressure for a woman to be a good submissive sex partner. I'd say 90 percent of if sex happens, is good, and even consensual is on the man in the relationship. You feel pressure on one side of sex? She feels it on the other. Can you actually elucidate t…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/25 10:21 PM
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when i explicitly said these men see being traditional as not having to do women's work but also not having to make men's wages simultaneously What do you think "provide for her" means? If she's at home, you're paying for the stuff she isn't able to. "What does a " man's salary " mean? I think i responded to you in another comment. I used census beaurau sources to show that 1/3 men had a salary equal to or greater than median income. So they can at least provide for a woman to the standard of th…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/25 07:43 PM
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Why not? Would you agree that a child is viewed as more innocent and sweet compared to an adult? We help and are chivalrous to people who we view as good. If women are helped more and are shown more care, they're viewed as morally better than men. E.g, 100 people died, including 10 women and children.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/25 07:34 PM
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The question was, "Who said that women are good?" This screed doesn't address that in any way. Men being chivalrous and having a woman and children first policy was evidence that men viewed women and children as good and innocent/worthy of greater help than a man. Were laws forbidding women from voting about "protecting" us? These laws were tied to the draft. For most of history, most men couldn't vote either. What about when marital rape was legal - was that also about "protecting women?" A wom…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/25 07:30 PM
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I like meeting strange people and seeing how they think. You did waste your time typing your argument. Because it wasn't what you believed.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/25 04:10 AM
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this quote bugs you huh? It's your logic, I just want you to stick to it. First, you said I didn't read it. I'm showing you I have read it and am posting it along with my reply. I actually quite like it, I'm just wondering why you won't apply it to yourself, women in general, or your male family members. Do you get offended when parents tell their children to be wary of strangers? You didn't say strangers or strange men in your previous comment. You said, " warned me not to trust men." You're no…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/25 04:07 AM
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Every single man has had an instance where they have been ridiculed because of 'girly behavior'. If the worst insult in boyhood is "you're a girl" what do you think the mentality towards girls is going to be? No one likes to be misgendered. A woman wouldn't like to hear "you dress like a man" or "you're acting like a guy" either. That's why men don't like hearing you behave like a girl. It's not because they hate women it's because they love acting like and being men. I think what you meant by "…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/25 04:00 AM
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"The way you view others is a blueprint for your own character" Is it possible that your father and brothers were untrustworthy men? And since you're from the same family. Could you also be an untrustworthy woman? I'm just trying to keep the logic consistent.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/25 03:51 AM
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You said" are women shallow and evil for not wanting to date shut ins". I'm responding to this by stating who wants to make them do that? Do you have answer to that question? 2.) I'm saying that women have made a campaign to say that you're beautiful at any size. There is no male equivalent. Would you agree? Edit: actually reading it in context with the above quote. You're right my mistake. I read yours, just not the above.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/25 03:46 AM
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I haven't said any of that. You just said, "How you talk about and treat people is a reflection of your own character." I was wondering if you'd be morally consistent. Like always, blue pillers have to attack anything that holds women accountable to any standards. Including their own standards created literally 5 mins ago. reread what I said and come back. I highlighted the relevant part in my response. I read it perfectly. You're just not happy because you're being held to any standard. You mad…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/25 03:42 AM
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/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/25 03:36 AM
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Can you tell me when any red piller has advocated for women to marry unemployed shut ins? There is an entire campaign/psy-op wanting society to believe that you can be beautiful at any size or healthy at any size. Men have not made a similar campaign promoting unemployed shut ins. If I'm wrong, give is an example.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/25 03:34 AM
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Most men don't like women What does this actually mean? How are you defining like.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/25 03:29 AM
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The way you view others is a blueprint for your own character. Ok, as long as we keep the same energy for the "I choose the bear" and " men are going to rape me" crowd.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/25 03:27 AM
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Are you denying that in the past and today that men were expected to be chivalrous, and it was women and children first. That conveys an attitude that women are morally better than men/ innocent and are deserving of protecting. Y'all always say that society teaches toxic masculinity without admitting the corollary that it also teaches that women are innately valuable and good.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/25 03:25 AM
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It doesn't matter if you can meet and approach women if you don't look good enough. The best you can hope to be is a second choice.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/25 10:40 PM
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Not true, that actually seems pretty cool. The truth is that hobbies in it of themselves don't make you attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/25 10:37 PM
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I don't know. I feel like it's different when you're rich. Kyle isn't paying for these kids except for little trips at Macdonalds. For normal people, single moms are doing it for a meal ticket. Crystal is a millionaire, and so is her husband. Kyle is living his best life. Don't recommend to average income guys though.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/25 09:40 PM
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Even unpaid labor, sorry, Sarah. You dusting the drapes doesn't entitle you to have a million. One positive of conservatives coming into power is that there will finally be restrictions on entry and exit in marriage. If you want to terminate a contract you shouldn't be rewarded for breaking it.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/25 12:58 AM
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What? The intention is irrelevant, only the outcome. If she isn't doing it for you. I don't see why you need to reciprocate. Can you?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/25 12:55 AM
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Why does women's emotional unpaid labor always add up to making the asset split 50/50 😆. If the guy makes 40K and she makes 30K, Women: "we should divide the assets 50/50 because of my unpaid emotional labor." The guy makes 100k, and she makes 50K Women: "we should divide the assets 50/50 because of my unpaid emotional labor." The guy makes 1 million dollars she makes 100k..... Why does emotional unpaid labor seem to have a value that's dependent on a man's salary? 😄😅😆 It's almost like it's an e…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/25 03:43 PM
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Marriage is a legal agreement to share assets. If the idea of splitting your assets bothers you, why would you marry someone who doesn't want to work? I didn't say I'd marry someone who doesn't work. However, if you're bringing in 40 percent of the asset value. Leave with 40%. If you bring in more. If you want to leave your partner to find happiness, just leave with the stuff you came in with. We're talking about morality here as well as legality. If you don't contribute to something, leave it. …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/25 03:35 PM
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The OP says kids aren't a part of the argument. So in terms of unpaid labor, if you're not getting paid for your labor, don't do it. Or get a partner who does. Women overhype their "unpaid emotional labor" so much. The only unpaid labor everyone agrees is important has to do with having kids. If you're doing more unpaid labor, be honest, it's because you're trying to compensate for the fact that you chose a partner who obviously makes more than you. No, if you don't have kids and you want to lea…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/25 03:29 PM
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Brother, are you a little tardy for the party? We're looking at the number of kids being had relative to the amount of elderly were going to take care of.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/25 03:03 PM
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Those people aren't going to exist my summer child. I just told you were having fewer kids. If you have fewer babies today, there are less 20 year Olds 20 years from now. How is this difficult to understand? Fewer apple trees planted today means fewer apples 20 years from now. As to less white people, do you think black people don't age or do Latinos not age either. You're playing race politics with a smaller and smaller pie.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/25 05:18 AM
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No one is saying they should be forced. When did I say that? Post it in your next comment. The fact remains, though, if they don't. There are relatively more conservatives in the future. This is not force it's not a threat. It is data. Take it as you will.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/25 04:52 AM
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Again, conservatism isn’t genetically transmitted Why are you so sure that ideology can't be genetically transmitted? Anyway, I digress. People can still teach their kids at a very young age and send them to schools with friends who have parents who believe the same thing. It's what conservatives are doing with "school choice" and home schooling. Conservative women should have as many babies as they want, based on the freedoms that they themselves profess to believe in I don't disagree. However,…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/25 04:46 AM
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Hahaha, you're making this assumption because of what? Some 100 years of urban living. History is a long arc, and it dips and rises. It's not some infinite march towards progress. Politics will depend on incitives. Economics is just one of those incentives. Demographics is another one.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/25 04:35 AM
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Why, do you have kids? Are they a burden to you ? Do you think dysfunctional unwanted kids won’t be a burden either ? If you believe you're in any way a decent person. You should have children because if you don't, there are will be less decent people in the future (proportionally), and the world is filled with their ideology. So I have kids because they carry values that I believe will make the world a slightly better place. That's why you have kids. Conservative women 30-44 have 0.25 more chil…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/25 04:32 AM
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Sweetheart, when these movements were young, there was no tie-in with misanthropic statements like "there are enough people in the world." You'll notice that MLK didn't tell anyone to reconsider having kids because the world is too racist. My main point is that ideas spread through word of mouth and media, yes. But they also spread through people having children and teaching those children their values. Conservatives are now having 25 percent more kids than liberals. How liberal do you think are…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/25 04:24 AM
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Don't care. Tired of people with zero kids free loading off of people who did. Your hot girl summer is funded by people who buckled down and had a family.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/25 04:19 AM
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You will get exactly all three if people are not in favor of those things don't have kids. Your ideology and goals are passed onto your kids by tea ching and genetics.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/25 04:14 AM
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I simply would tie social security benefits to adopting and raising kids. Unless you put in enough to retire and pay for Medicare. You have to adopt or have a kid to dip into entitlements. See how quickly people change their toon on kids.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/25 04:12 AM
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Less people means less votes in your demographic cohort. Boomers get their wishes because there are a lot of them, and they can vote for zoning laws and tax laws that benefit them and screw younger generations. By the bargaining power argument, are you admitting that an influx of women into the market decreased bargaining power for everyone?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/25 04:07 AM
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There are millions of empty homes in America. The issue with housing isn't availability. It's speculation on housing like it's an asset and zoning. Which doesn't allow denser living because old people want their housing prices to go up. Having more people in a generational cohort allows you to dictate policy in a government. That requires births. These arguments are so facile.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/25 04:04 AM
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Young people are already seeing benefits. College applications are down so acceptance rates are up. College applications are down because no one can afford it. Men especially just don't want to go. How many people should have a college degree, we're at 40 percent now. How much should it go up to? Decreasing fertility is only a problem for people who want to exploit workers Decreasing fertility is a problem for elderly people and disabled people who need care, and we will all eventually be elderl…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/25 04:02 AM
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Ok, people still die. What's the point of making AI do all the jobs and not reproduce? Are the AI just going to make widgets perpetually with no humans left?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/25 03:58 AM
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Leave with what you contributed then. Let's be honest women are putting in less then men on average. If you disagree then this stipulation should be no problem to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/25 03:55 AM
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It's not a fantasy and these promiscuous women aren't the most sophisticated tools in the shed. If they were they'd be less promiscous. Women here say they can sus out a virgin a mile away. A slut will slip on her past eventually.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/25 11:24 PM
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Ok, why? You said you were OK with literary porn because it didn't contain real people, and you know, for a fact, no one was hurt during its creation. So wouldn't this apply to animated/AI porn as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/25 10:51 PM
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Would you be OK with AI or animated porn that looks like real people but didn't involve any real person?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/25 10:20 PM
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Women love to talk, and her friend group is a good indicator of who she is. Just pretend to be non judgemental, and a woman will absolutely divulge every secret her and her friends have done.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/25 10:11 PM
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I think if this is the case, women should leave with only what they came into the marriage with.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/25 09:58 PM
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Could this be explained by women not wanting to message men above their league and instead waiting for them to message them in the message graph you can also see that men are as likely to message a medium woman as the most attractive woman. Another consideration is that these are just total messages allocated to different types of women. Could men just be more inclined to keep conversations going with hotter women. Or what's the total number of messages given by men to women. The "messaging" gra…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/25 09:52 PM
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That doesn't negate anything I've said.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/25 09:42 PM
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There are empathy gaps in all those things, however. That does negate the male/female gap.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/25 04:50 PM
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So why would consensual objectification not be in it of itself a problem. Especially since women here and feminists complain about women being trotted out in magazines,ads, and porn (which they consent to). I'm just looking for consistency.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/25 02:53 PM
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Tell me what the term objectified means?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/25 08:04 PM
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You didn't answer a single thing I posted previously and made up an argument I didn't espouse. You said that men were saying that they wanted a trad wife while not providing. I provided you ( lol) evidence showing that about 1/3 men could provide for a family to the same standard as the median American couple. Now you want to talk about some men who force their wives to do all the chores when they work as well. When were we talking about that? When have I said that's ok? If there are men doing t…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/25 08:03 PM
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They’re pointing out that women complain about being non-consensually objectified, So a man you don't like looking at you Is non consensual objectification and a man you like looking at you is consensual objectification. The issue with this is that women say that objectification, treating someone like an object, is a bad thing in it of itself. Also, as long as someone is looking at you in a private space like your home. If you go in public, people will look at you people whether you like it or n…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/25 07:51 PM
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To counter means to go against. Just take the L. If you wanted to add on. Use other transition words.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/25 01:49 AM
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I thought cognitive was higher in men, and affect was higher in women.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/25 01:46 AM
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Please don't do it in real life as well. She definitely will and has. I'm glad we're calling it out, though.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/25 01:41 AM
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The implication of the question is that he likes guys. Everyone understood what you meant. So many women, including liberal women of color, will go to insinuating a guy is gay when they're criticized. It's so annoying and counter productive.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/25 01:40 AM
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I swear liberal women are some of the biggest homophobes left in America. Do you literally have to call every man you disagree with gay? You know exactly what you're doing. Stop. This produces the toxic masculinity you pretend to care about.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/25 01:35 AM
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Apparently, there are different kinds of empathy. Cognitive and affective empathy. Some studies show men to be better at the former.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/25 01:32 AM
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Why are we confusing standards with consent? If I say I want a 5'10 "supermodel with a 10/10 body and face, who's a virgin and someone calls me delusional. I can't rebuttal with "so you don't believe in consent and want me to have unconsensual sex". I don't know if this is malicious or not, but I hope it's not. No one is telling women to have unconsensual sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/25 09:31 PM
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Women put their desires and values onto men and then wonder why men aren't fulfilling them. Ladies want an experienced guy in relationships. Men don't need that.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/25 09:25 PM
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Crazy how women say women aren't a monolith, but then treat men as one on the very next post. TlC is literally a Chanel for oddball degenerates that's their brand. Some men like fat women, or it's all they can pull. The paying for sex workers is actually on brand. Men don't like to marry sex workers or promiscuous chicks. We will fuck them though. Carry on.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/25 09:23 PM
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True. However, empathy isn't unequivocally always a good thing. Women overextending themselves for other people and then coming to emotionally dump her stress on her husband is a consequence that's not talked about. If they then blame their husband for not doing a good enough job being supportive only to get a divorce later, it's even worse. The rat/squirrel dynamic is actually quite a fitting analogy. Blame your husband and let him be your emotional punching bag because you know he can't leave.…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/25 06:55 PM
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I'm happy enough with you acknowledging that there is an adequate basis for behavioral differences between men and women. I don't believe these differences. Make on superior or inferior. Having one quality or the other just makes you more or less appealing to a broader range of people. I believe that there are niches that can find you attractive even if the general population doesn't. Just like your example of multiple men being the father to one child. Most BP would deny these differences even …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/25 05:50 AM
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Sexual dimorphism is a scientific truth Apparently, it's only skin deep? You don't think that the massive hormonal differences between men lead to significant effects on average behavior ? When we know I disagree. Depending on which culture you exist in it may be better to be chaste or not What I'm trying to explain is that no matter how chaste or unchaste society is. Men still have higher risk tolerance than women due to the fact they can't get pregnant. That's easy to understand.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/25 12:03 AM
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Tl;DR last paragraph I've heard of this. Even then, the actual father still invests more into the child. Anyhow, it's irrelevant. Not only because exceptions don't negate the rule. But also because the guys in her "roster," let's say. Are unlikely to be random schmucks. But getting on to the point, the" general "rule (e.g men are taller than women) would be that women and men differ greatly in general and sexual risk taking because of the risk that women during child birth. Do you agree or disag…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/25 10:15 PM
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There is no male or female archetype that has as clear of a correlation to desire as sugar does on our appetites What about risk and the fact that women and female mammals bare much more harm in child birth than men or male animals. Do you think that this would create an incentive for more sexual reticent behavior in women? And a need to find a partner that is worth going through all that pain for?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/25 08:53 PM
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Do you believe our obesity epidemic is less than 50 percent biology. Why or why not.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/25 07:26 PM
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Orungatans, if I recall correctly.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/25 07:24 PM
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Financial abortion takes place during a woman's pregnancy, so he's refusing to take care of a zygote. Not taking care of a person who is born is separate.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/25 10:13 AM
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Oh no, it's retarded
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/25 02:09 AM
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Those other men will have to earn less. And women per your statement don't want that.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/25 02:08 AM
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Because men don't parent their children. Like I said. Evidence for this? Isn't it possible that men and women can want different things in life?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/25 02:03 AM
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Prove that women don't date men who earn less What kind of evidence would you need to change your mind on this. No one is saying women dont date men who earn less. It's that they're less inclined. There is no justification for men earning more. Unless, of course, they work harder to meet the standard women want for them.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/25 02:02 AM
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What kind of study, and how would data change your mind on this topic?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/25 01:54 AM
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Yeah, but those men may not want those women as much as they want those men.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/25 01:40 AM
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It's literally not, and it's an indictment on the American education system that you think it is. Learn the difference between relative and absolute. https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads/2024/11/18/us-women-are-outpacing-men-in-college-completion-including-in-every-major-racial-and-ethnic-group/#:~:text=Today%2C 47%25 of U.S. women,from 25%25 to 37%25).
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/25 12:13 AM
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We're not, if humans stop reproducing. Our society faces collapse that's fairly rapid. You hollow out tax producers and increase tax consumers.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/25 12:06 AM
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True, literally defined away.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/25 12:01 AM
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No, you said fewer men are going to college, that isn't true. Fewer men than women are going to college. That is the difference.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/25 11:39 PM
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Fewer men aren't being educated. There are fewer men relative to women going on to college.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/25 10:53 PM
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Tl;Dr: do you believe any genes have an effect on human behavior (as a probability). Alcoholism for example, is that partially genetic? What about ADHD? Genetics aren't deterministic. Genes are probalistic. Are you really going to argue that human beings don't have any genetically probabilistic tendencies? Why are we obese when everyone is well aware that it's bad for you? Are you going to argue that everyone doesn't know obesity is bad for your health? We have deeply ingrained probabilistic beh…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/25 12:38 AM
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I haven't shifted the goal posts. I've addressed every single creature you've brought up. You had to bring up creatures that can switch genders and that we don't know deeply about their reproduction to try to make your point. I directly refuted your point on seahorses and gave an explanation on cassowary behavior. And explained that insects, by definition, just choose quantity over quality. Emphasizing that humans are mammals and that we'd see the most similarity in that branch of the tree of li…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/25 12:30 AM
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