aswanu Archive

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1	When a woman claims that males, and especially white males have privilege are there any good arguments to counter this? A decent amount of research supports the continued existence of racism/sexism. Or, at least, (racist/sexist) stereotypes that influence thinking/behaviors in minute ways. You even alluded to it yourself, we don't live in a complete meritocracy, and I doubt that will ever happen. You may have missed the part where I suggested that you, as an individual, may be more enlightened about this whole topic. But many other people aren't. Are you telling me that you haven't come across people with similar…	/r/MensRights	05/05/14 08:22 PM
1	When a woman claims that males, and especially white males have privilege are there any good arguments to counter this? And that's where the difference lies people say that it does still exist, supported by research (like the article I linked). perhaps you are more enlightened and are able to disregard steroetypes, but manymanymany others aren't. Just look at this forum alone, people don't go into elaborate discussions, like us, about these issues. They regurgitate/downvote/etc without making an effort to contribute to the discussion; this is valid for all sides of arguments. With important jobs, regardless of wh…	/r/MensRights	04/05/14 08:23 AM
1	When a woman claims that males, and especially white males have privilege are there any good arguments to counter this? Where does race/gender play in the society you propose? What about these notions of trauma? Do you prepose that the differences from decades past are equalized? If not, do we disregard them for a meritocracy? Which if you do, I hope you can at least see the concern people have when they presume/assume the base advantages are unequal. What factors shou d be taken imto account? I generally agree that the standards should bethe same, but how do you suppose we should account for biological/societal/…	/r/MensRights	04/05/14 06:36 AM
1	When a woman claims that males, and especially white males have privilege are there any good arguments to counter this? Your example about the Smiths.. I would say Will is the one who experienced the base disadvantage (unless he grew up ridiculously rich as well, I'm too lazy to check Wiki), but Jaden is the one who received undeserved privileged in the form of his father's fame and fortune; this greatly off-sets the (historical) base disadvantages. But that doesn't necessarily mean that Jaden won't experience racism/sexism/etc, it's just less likely to negatively affect his opportunities because of daddy and mom…	/r/MensRights	03/05/14 10:58 PM
0	When a woman claims that males, and especially white males have privilege are there any good arguments to counter this? Exactly, people twist it as such. The original concept isn't an insult. That is, (flawed) people use academic, neutral terms to further their own agendas.	/r/MensRights	03/05/14 10:39 PM
0	When a woman claims that males, and especially white males have privilege are there any good arguments to counter this? The issue I have with your claims is that its too definitive. The idea is that these oppressive effects compound and cause a base disadvantage or the privileges compound and provide a base advantage. That is not to say that these "oppressed" individuals will fail, but its, arguably, harder to succeed because they have to work harder to overcome learned behavior [I mean, what kind of kid thinks critically about how their caregivers are behaving; for the most part, they accept it as it is and adop…	/r/MensRights	03/05/14 12:33 PM
-1	When a woman claims that males, and especially white males have privilege are there any good arguments to counter this? I agree, if one presumes there is no such thing as privilege, then the whole notion of forcing base (undeserved) advantages on people is unfair. Time to tie in oppression... However, proponents would say that oppression [remember, not necessarily perpetrated by these individuals] has led to these blanket privileges. Would it not also be reasonable to assume that generational/cultural <sup>1/histori</sup>cal has led these oppressed individuals to learn/behave in self-destructive or maladaptive ma…	/r/MensRights	03/05/14 06:12 AM
-1	When a woman claims that males, and especially white males have privilege are there any good arguments to counter this? I reject your claim that the concept of privilege includes oppressed victims. Or, at least, that is my interpretation of privilege. Everyone has privileges, including the oppressed, just not as much as the "privileged." Some would argue that there is no "tak[ing] from/crippl[ing]" from the privileged; which, in my assertion, is not necessarily about oppressing or being malicious to others. The philosophy behind affirmative action programs, which I assume is what you're referencing to, is suppose…	/r/MensRights	03/05/14 05:35 AM
-2	When a woman claims that males, and especially white males have privilege are there any good arguments to counter this? The core concept of privilege isn't an insult, people just take it as an insult. It says that there is an (undeserved) advantage from the get-go, due to whateverwhatever in that person's worldview. Most "privileged" people will interpret that as an affront to their own identity/work ethic because, in their experience, they have worked hard for it; while this may or may not be true (especially in relation to others), the concept of privilege is that the "privileged" person gets a cumulative head …	/r/MensRights	03/05/14 04:35 AM
2	Personal rage trigger. FYI, many of Freud's theories have been ignored/discredited since he had no evidence backing his claims. If anything, Freud pushed the profession to consider the longterm effects of events and trauma. People like to reference him (father of pop psychology and all) cause they are amused/fascinated by his theories regarding psychosexual development.	/r/TheRedPill	05/07/13 08:57 AM