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atafies/r/seduction29/04/12 06:15 PM
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I get this all the time from acquaintances who don't get my laid back nature. They try to cut me down in front of people. Quick question/one-off note: it seems like this happens a lot. What is it that would attract these guys to your social circle in the first place? I've always been the calm type (though not exactly 'dominating') but have never really seen situations where a lot of guys try to AMOG me.
/r/seduction25/10/13 07:52 PM
1

Texting is the same. No, it's not. Texting can be anywhere from 'rapid fire' to replying the next morning. Maybe it's a age thing (I don't know how old you are) but you can't treat a text convo like a face to face one. If you're gonna do that just call her.
/r/seduction25/10/13 07:40 PM
4

Just curious here, I've never understood the idea of sexual frustration. Whenever I don't fap for a awhile I actually like the feeling of being really attracted to women. It makes interactions with them much smoother as they can feel my attraction to them (easier to keep eye contact, kino, etc.)), and naturally reciprocate.
/r/seduction10/10/13 09:48 PM
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Brilliant.
/r/seduction22/09/13 07:13 PM
2

All this doesn't sound like doing 'nothing.' Aside from kino maybe, you're basically just naturally applying most of the advice passed around here.
/r/seduction09/09/13 06:35 PM
1

r/fPUA I haven't been here for about a year, but I'm really glad to see this is a thing now.
/r/seduction09/09/13 06:22 PM
2

That sounds like a very specific reaction; I can't imagine a guy getting 'spooked' from such a thing. If a woman did that to me I'd undeniably assume attraction and roll with it; no need to over think things.
/r/seduction09/09/13 06:16 PM
-4

Seriously, the majority of women that pua stuff seems to 'work' on are the night club/bar types. Try meeting any given girl at a library or for hard mode, church and see if the results are consistent.
/r/seduction28/07/13 03:26 AM
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Why not do both at the same time? Thinking of 'preparing' yourself before talking to girls will only hold you back. It'll get better only with practice, trial and error. Most people that have problems are too afraid of the 'error' part to succeed, but it's critical. Also, it's cliche advice, but if you want to be more interesting you have to be interested. This has the double affect of not only showing that you're actually interested in what she has to say, but you learn a lot of things just fro…
/r/seduction17/03/13 03:36 AM
14

How is expecting a girl not to cheat making her somehow your 'property?'
/r/seduction04/03/13 05:37 AM
7

That's all good and gravy, however I hope you aren't (consciously or unconsciously) keeping emotionally distant in your relationships on purpose to keep up an appearance of apathy/avoid potential heartbreak, because you won't get any type of serious/long lasting thing going on with that. Unless of course you don't want anything serious/long lasting, in which case you're, again, good and gravy.
/r/seduction04/03/13 05:35 AM
2

Someone said it already, but if you do things with confidence it won't be awkward. Things like that have happened to me multiple times (I have douche friends) and I've sort of laughed and looked around and shrugged at anyone staring. I usually just get a laugh out of people. Works for any potentially embarrassing/awkward situation.
/r/seduction04/03/13 05:29 AM
1

Yup, suggestions, not commands.
/r/seduction28/11/12 05:12 AM
96

Now that is alpha.
/r/seduction28/11/12 05:11 AM
1

sorry, I edited my comment
/r/seduction19/10/12 02:18 AM
1

I have quite a few more negative stereotypes to deal with You make a good point, but unless you aren't in America I highly doubt this. EDIT: Meant to put that as a quote
/r/seduction19/10/12 01:45 AM
1

I can it explain it. It's just how you are/how you were raised/environment you grew up in. It's sort of a learned thing. Hell, I never used to shake hands with people until they offered theirs first. Now I make it a point to touch people in some way when I greet them, and I get much more open/warm reactions from people in general.
/r/seduction10/10/12 07:12 AM
1

Yup, when you touch a girl, don't focus on the touch. Just do it in passing, like it's not a big deal.
/r/seduction10/10/12 07:09 AM
33

As long as you feel it is, she will too. You can basically say or do anything (read: not literially anything) and if you say it without hesitating or awkward body language it won't come off as creepy.
/r/seduction01/10/12 03:09 AM
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I don't understand the point of the study... I don't think it matters where the men got approached by an attractive woman, they were gonna call her back, a difference of 5 men in a sample of 20 isn't much to go after.
/r/seduction21/09/12 02:02 AM
3

This was my biggest issue awhile back. He need to realize that I he doesn't talk about things he likes or is passionate about, he will just come off as a boring person. And does he really want to be good friends with someone who blows him off for his interests anyways?
/r/seduction19/09/12 04:32 PM
12

If you're getting nauseated from a girl offering herself, you have some other things to work on before nitpicking about shit tests. It sounds like a low self esteem issue.
/r/seduction19/09/12 04:29 PM
0

Sounds like you've been dating the type that "like to be chased."
/r/seduction06/09/12 07:27 PM
2

You shouldn't be trying to get into her pants, you should be trying to make her want to get into yours. Money.
/r/seduction01/09/12 03:42 AM
1

Fancy way of saying "be confident."
/r/seduction31/08/12 07:17 AM
2

Hank is the best shoulder to cry on. I would feel better just from his hilariously uncomfortable reactions to me.
/r/seduction29/08/12 12:20 AM
2

Gig Em'!
/r/seduction23/08/12 06:25 AM
1

I wasn't talking about Negging specifically, just the epiphany thing.
/r/seduction19/08/12 06:59 PM
2

Jesus, that hit kinda hard, never seen that one. That was me for awhile until earlier this year where I realized the only thing I needed to 'realize' was to man the fuck up. Everything has been smooth(er) sailing.
/r/seduction19/08/12 05:49 PM
2

I'd say to stop analyzing everything they're doing. Not every single thing a woman does is a shit test. Teasing is fine,but when it's all tease it gets old really fast; you have to mix it up. Going on like that can make people think that you don't take them seriously, which will get the reactions you describe.
/r/seduction19/08/12 01:02 AM
2

Be careful, what you might think is playful teasing may come off as more condescending than you intend. Sometimes I take my sarcasm too far (grew up with siblings/friends that didn't fight physically, but verbally) and end up coming off as a dick.
/r/seduction19/08/12 12:43 AM
12

Well for one, you should try to stay awake around them.., But seriously, it's all about your perceived confidence. If you act like people are above with your mannerisms and body language, people tend to follow along with it, but I you act like you belong somewhere, people won't question and even hold you in high regard.
/r/seduction14/08/12 01:51 PM
2

Well for one, don't do anything that would draw too attention to the two of you. With the shy girls, it's better to get them in isolation/non public before trying to go too far with them.
/r/seduction10/08/12 03:57 AM
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The very definition of a shy person is someone who isn't comfortable around people they don't know at first, so your first point doesn't really make sense. With shy girls you have to build the comfort along with the attraction. As you joke around and tease her, have bits of 'comfort' conversation (where you from, what's your major, etc).
/r/seduction10/08/12 03:20 AM
6

Was listening to Mylo Xyloto as I read this. :(
/r/seduction04/08/12 01:49 PM
16

Oh boo fucking hoo. But seriously, you're overthinking it. Contrary to what cliches Hollywood throws on us, having sex early will not automatically doom a relationship, hell it starts them for most people I know.
/r/seduction03/08/12 07:10 AM
17

So... are you asexual now? A little more detail would be nice.
/r/seduction02/08/12 07:10 AM
2

You'll never know until you actually try. Sounds like you haven't approached too much. The fear that girls are "out of your league" eventually disappears when you approach enough.
/r/seduction01/08/12 03:42 PM
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Yup, most of the really tall guys are know that are the best with women are really low-key and laid back. You can't have too much energy or people might be a scared off.
/r/seduction01/08/12 03:22 PM
2

He is a 'natural' as what's defined in PUA. What mytuppence is saying is that he dislikes the term 'natural' itself, since it might imply that people who aren't naturals will never be as good.
/r/seduction31/07/12 09:21 PM
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Don't fall into the trap of thinking every girl should be falling for you, because that's just unrealistic. This subreddit is for more of building generally attractive qualities than any single girls.
/r/seduction30/07/12 11:08 PM
1

Yup, we aren't defined by what we think we are or what we are 'inside', we're defined by what we do.
/r/seduction27/07/12 09:24 PM
12

To get the girl, you have to be comfortable with the idea of not getting the girl. If there's any TL;DR for seduction, it's this.
/r/seduction25/07/12 06:09 AM
1

I don't know any articles but with shy girls you have to focus a little more on building the comfort with her than anything else. Once she's moderately comfortable around you (which can happen within 10 minutes of conversation if you're good) then the rest of the rules apply normally.
/r/seduction15/07/12 12:25 AM
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Well, as long as you have this mindset, you will continue to fuck up, not just with her, but with every future 'cool' girl.
/r/seduction14/07/12 08:23 PM
4

'Yeah' isn't vague at all... I'd say agree and inflate. Like jokingly put your arm around the girl and say that you're married. On the other hand you could do the opposite and say "no way!" and slightly push the girl away or step back. The point is to make it over the top and let it be clear that you're joking either way.
/r/seduction12/07/12 02:09 AM
1

Not homophobic. I knew a few really cool gay guys, but most of the ones I meet are just hard to be around for too long. I'd compare them to that catty drama queen in high school that you just couldn't stand.
/r/seduction10/07/12 11:11 PM
1

I wouldn't appreciate winning if I didn't have some competition. I say bring it on.
/r/seduction05/07/12 04:26 PM
1

Nope, he's trolling. He's been copy/pasting this everywhere.
/r/seduction04/07/12 09:17 PM
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One of the main pieces of advice here is outcome independence. Here's something that will help you in the long run: don't rely on 'signals' on whether to escalate or not. Keep escalating until she says no, regardless of any 'signals', good or bad. When she says no (which it seems she has multiple times) then move on. You have to remember that she likes you as a friend and wants to keep you around for the emotional support/friendship, so of course she'll give you 'good' signals just to keep you a…
/r/seduction04/07/12 06:15 PM
1

How long has this girl known you, and how long have you been trying? Insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results. You should really listen to DutchPUA, most of us have been there.
/r/seduction04/07/12 03:27 PM
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Click on the 'MORE HERE' under guides.
/r/seduction04/07/12 02:35 AM
1

If you really think you are too far gone, then go ahead, live your life in your head and keep blaming your 'thought patterns.' There's absolutely nothing you can change about your looks (aside from basic hygiene stuff and the weight loss) so you have two choices. Either A) Keep on believing it's impossible in your head and live in your misery or B) Decide to do your best with what you've been dealt, which will get get you much farther than option A) and doing nothing at all. You should read up o…
/r/seduction03/07/12 10:49 PM
1

It's probably also worth mentioning the other guys have girlfriends too, where as I'm single. Bam. You're the only one that seems like a 'threat', so she won't play around as hard with you so that you don't make any 'assumptions.' She can play around as much as she wants with other guys because since they're taken, they don't really pose a 'threat.'
/r/seduction03/07/12 10:15 PM
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Outcome independence is simply what it sounds like: not caring what the outcome of talking to someone will produce. Think about some of your good male friends. Do you talk to them thinking "I hope I can get him to do this later" or "I hope I can somehow steer this conversation into etc". You don't. Most of the time you probably just shoot the shit, and talk about random things or experiences, and joke around and tease each other without worrying if they laugh or not before you say anything. That…
/r/seduction03/07/12 10:09 PM
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That's exactly what it is. Guys always talk about how girls suddenly seem to be so much more attracted to them when they're taken, and it's because of the vibe they give off. They literally don't care/aren't actively trying to get laid, and it comes out in the way they interact with girls. It's why seddit promotes 'outcome independence' and 'abundance mentality.'
/r/seduction03/07/12 09:48 PM
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Yup, it's called 'the blind leading the blind.' On a similar note, I tend to get more from a wingman who's in a relationship already.
/r/seduction03/07/12 09:29 PM
0

Well it's more for the guys who will read this and inevitably throw all their eggs in one basket and only talk to girls online until they feel they're 'ready.' Since it's hard through simply text to get different emotions and such through, using it to get s little info about yourself or set up real life meetings is fine, but using it as a crutch to 'practice' isn't going to get a person very far.
/r/seduction03/07/12 09:08 PM
3

Shit's deep, yo.
/r/seduction03/07/12 08:35 PM
-2

True, but you have to remember it's not the same. When I was younger, I would flirt with a certain girl I had a interest in for hours at a time over text, but the few times we met in person it would be too awkward and the dynamic wasn't the same, so it didn't really go anywhere.
/r/seduction03/07/12 08:33 PM
2

Well kudos to you, but I'm pretty sure this isn't something that should be set as a 'goal'. When you did it I bet you didn't think beforehand "Man, I need to have a threeway makeout with lesbians today." It's just like every other thing in seduction. if you talk to a girl with nothing but getting her in bed on your mind, it'll be harder to get any.
/r/seduction03/07/12 05:26 PM
7

And by 'Short term relationship skills', he means 'sex appeal'.
/r/seduction03/07/12 05:06 AM
3

I like that last line. It goes with what I always say: an awkward moment is only awkward if YOU feel it or make it that way. Your frame should control the 'atmosphere' of the conversation, not you reacting based off of her quietness/mood/'IOIs'.
/r/seduction29/06/12 04:12 AM
2

I honestly didn't read all of that because the formatting is terrible, but from what I skimmed through, the advice seems good but a little too specific. Newbies might be so worried about keeping up with everything on the list and end up defeating the purpose. With the right attitude (simply outcome independence and trying to find out what she can offer you in terms of value aka qualification) all the rest pretty much falls into place.
/r/seduction28/06/12 08:50 PM
1

How do you act around girls you aren't interested in? Seriously think about it. Now, act this way around the ones you are. And I don't mean overcompensate by completely ignoring them.
/r/seduction28/06/12 08:43 PM
8

Okay, first what you need to understand is that....get this....sometimes...I know it's crazy but...sometimes...people can simply not make a date. It isn't all about you. If you guys have a friendly enough dynamic then she could really legitimately be not able to make it. I'd say play it off like it doesn't bother you (like it shouldn't) and set up something else for later. Now if she does it again, (especially last minute) then I'd be worried/start paying more attention to my other options.
/r/seduction28/06/12 05:32 PM
1

I just meant that the words like 'seduction' give off a negative vibe due to the rest of the non-reddit pua online communities(then again, I could be generalizing).
/r/seduction28/06/12 04:30 AM
3

As a guy who hangs around a lot of black chicks, fuck this advice.
/r/seduction28/06/12 03:12 AM
1

It's always good to 'kill 'em with kindness'. Just move and continue on with life. You don't have to ignore her, be polite, but don't force yourself to be her friend as that will only cause you more trouble down the line.
/r/seduction28/06/12 03:02 AM
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The fact that you're trying to 'win her back' is already a downfall and won't help you much. These kind of situations are why people give the 'don't shit where you eat' advice all the time. My advice: move on. If anything, realize that she's doing it on purpose to get at you/make you jealous and it's working. You don't want a girl that plays games like that anyhow.
/r/seduction28/06/12 02:39 AM
2

Now I feel bad for laughing hysterically at the photo.
/r/seduction28/06/12 02:35 AM
2

My god tell me this is photo-shopped.
/r/seduction28/06/12 01:03 AM
18

"You 2.0" Should be a tagline for this subreddit. "Seduction" doesn't do it justice and brings many negative connotations.
/r/seduction27/06/12 10:18 PM
3

No. At worst she'll gently let you down when you try to escalate (maybe move away when you go in for a kiss). If you guys have really been friends for so long she won't 'flip out' like you imagine. If she doesn't respond well to your escalation then just continue on with the friendship as is, preferably ignoring the fact that you attempted anything on her at all. "Awkwardness" only exists if YOU think it does.
/r/seduction27/06/12 12:33 PM
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Nope. Oneitis is being hung up on a specific girl with no reciprocation (which is what you are). The bigger problem is how you're approaching dating all together. I'd suggest you take a long good look at some sidebar material.
/r/seduction27/06/12 02:48 AM
3

Sounds like you didn't build enough comfort/attraction with her when you were in person, otherwise there's no reason she would say no to a casual meetup for coffee or something similar. If you had met online on a site then I'd understand but seeing that she's seen/talked to you in person, it shouldn't be an issue. Another thing: how did you ask her to meet up? Did you ask it as a yes or no type of question? If you make it seem like too big a deal, she may instantly see it as a full on date situa…
/r/seduction26/06/12 02:15 PM
1

You tell them. A simple "hey we should chill/hang out/ do whatever on [insert time/place]" will suffice, the same way you got them on the first date.
/r/seduction25/06/12 09:02 AM
1

I'd say about 80% luck, in fact.
/r/seduction25/06/12 08:59 AM
2

The reason OP 'failed' is because he kept on trying with this girl in the first place, wasting his time. If he really did it 'for fun' then more power to him, but I can't stand those cynical types of girls(or people in general); trying so hard actively to seem like they don't give a shit about anything. If she really was what she was trying so hard to portray, she simply wouldn't talk to the guy at all.
/r/seduction25/06/12 08:48 AM
1

I'm just trying to underline the difference between teasing a girl and plain being an asshole to her, because there is a difference that too many 'AFCs' seem to miss.
/r/seduction24/06/12 11:31 PM
1

By douchebag/asshole, I mean just generally being plain disrespectful, or breaking the 'leave 'em better than you found 'em' rule.
/r/seduction24/06/12 11:09 PM
1

But this advice is way too unspecific, and it's what causes people to think they need to be douchebags to attract women.
/r/seduction24/06/12 08:09 PM
5

I just want to say this: r/seduction does not represent the entire seduction community. The reason I frequent here is because of the very fact that they are not like any other place out there that typically represents the pua community. Someone best described it as a 'self help/improvement subbreddit masquerading as a pua community' because a lot of the things that are encouraged here are not typical of most pua sites. Honestly, I hate calling it a pua community because that carries a myriad of …
/r/seduction23/06/12 01:58 PM
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Well he's not talking about what the subbreddit itself promotes, but the people new to the community that think that it's full of stereotypical pua "assholes".
/r/seduction22/06/12 08:57 PM
5

Mind telling me how? Been looking for a way to access the sidebar with Alien Blue forever.
/r/seduction20/06/12 11:07 PM
1

Yeah I didn't say anything was wrong with saying '40' just saying that you shouldn't aim to close to how old they might actually be.
/r/seduction20/06/12 07:24 PM
3

Sounds like he's Asian.
/r/seduction20/06/12 04:56 PM
0

But at the same time you don't wanna be too unridiculous because she might take it too seriously.
/r/seduction20/06/12 04:47 PM
3

It goes with the theory that it's not what you say that matters as much as how you say it. When you accidentally said you weren't great around cute girls you were genuine and congruent to your feelings, which is why it had a positive effect (lowering her defenses).
/r/seduction20/06/12 07:29 AM
3

You're feeling more AA because since they're basically inviting you over, you have a feeling that you need to 'prove' that you're worth it when you start talking to them. Really the best thing you can do is to remember that she'll actually be easier to converse with from the get go, and maintain an abundance mentality (none of this "I really hope I don't fuck this up with her" mindset).
/r/seduction19/06/12 05:44 AM
1

My God I hate those. I usually end them quickly for fear of crushing her hand.
/r/seduction18/06/12 09:47 PM
1

This is usually where I wake up... But seriously OP, if you maintain consistent relaxed and nonchalant body language you can get away with saying almost anything.
/r/seduction16/06/12 07:20 AM
6

Because it's supposedly popular and overused. I've personally never seen it outside of Reddit, and the complaints about it are more annoying.
/r/seduction13/06/12 11:27 PM
2

It's just you. But seriously, if a girl is interested in the first place, seeing that you are as well (through SHOWING her/escalating, not a 'confession'), naturally she'll feel free to start putting out IOIs, which isn't the same as her magically being more attracted to you because you like her.
/r/seduction12/06/12 01:19 PM
3

Pretty much. I guess it falls in line with the saying that 'it's better to go 'too far' an push boundaries than to not go far enough'
/r/seduction12/06/12 12:50 PM
4

I hope you crash into an iceberg... This is even funnier if said off the coast of California in mid-June.
/r/seduction11/06/12 02:32 PM
1

I you describe your friends as 'nerds' then of course they'll say it's unusual to start conversations with strangers, they're not the most social butterflies. The main thing is probably your invasion of space when you talk to people. Work on touching people less and standing a bit back when you talk to them. For example, if you're talking to someone while standing, try facing in the same direction they're facing while standing next to them instead of facing them directly.
/r/seduction11/06/12 02:29 PM
1

Heh, I do my best.
/r/seduction09/06/12 09:56 AM
3

leave them better than when you found them Yup, I sort of see this phrase as a good fuse/circuit breaker. It's okay to seriously believe you're hot shit, but if you break that rule then you've gone too far.
/r/seduction08/06/12 09:56 PM
4

Sidebar, Sidebar, Sidebar. After that, you you have anymore questions (perhaps about a specific situation) then hit up Askseddit.
/r/seduction08/06/12 07:49 AM
18

Nice to hear this once in awhile. I sort of wish we had a different name for the community and people in it, because "seduction" and "PUA" give off an immediate negative vibe that doesn't describe this community at all.
/r/seduction08/06/12 12:44 AM
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he doesn't have to do any of the PUA tips, tricks, or tools; he's just out there living his own life the best he can, always leaving people better then he finds them. That's because he does them naturally, and didn't have to really 'learn' it. There are plenty of guys that are just naturally good with women. They're charming, have a way with words, etc and 'being themselves. Most people in this community want to know and find out what exactly it is that makes people like him such a magnet, and t…
/r/seduction07/06/12 06:18 PM
1

I got one question: Why? Why have you spent a whole year of your life chasing one girl that was taken/not interested enough to take you seriously? And what makes you think this will be any different?
/r/seduction07/06/12 12:24 PM
8

Debra Morgan would like to have a fucking word with you.
/r/seduction07/06/12 03:47 AM
1

If you've been teasing her and building comfort/rapport than it would come off pretty well.
/r/seduction06/06/12 06:35 PM
1

Then don't open with it. Or say it in a different context than the fact that you're only talking to her because she's cute (even if that's the truth). Basically you want to convey that even though she's cute, you expect more out of a girl than just that.
/r/seduction06/06/12 06:15 PM
3

Yes, and more specifically, stop filtering the things you say, because you "don't wanna mess this up." Talk and joke like you would talk and joke around with anyone.
/r/seduction06/06/12 05:21 PM
4

That's because when to 'try' to not notice someone, you will always overdo it and you will just come off as a person that isn't interested at all or dislikes them. Here's some advice: start to tease/joke around with the girls you like. The biggest mistake I made with all my past attempts with girls is that I was too polite, and conformed. I was afraid to make certain jokes and afraid of offending them, and basically walked on eggshells around them. I wasn't really being myself(yes, the all hated…
/r/seduction06/06/12 09:11 AM
3

This is pretty sound. Conversations with my closest friends usually begin with some random observation or thought spoken aloud. It can help build familiarity.
/r/seduction03/06/12 10:01 AM
17

And in that exact order.
/r/seduction03/06/12 02:56 AM
2

Well if you don't even have any normal friends or platonic relationships, how do you expect to do any good with girls and dating? Sounds like you need to deal with a few inner issues before you start doing things like this. Be more social in general (to girls AND guys) and start up conversations without any intent whatsoever to 'game' or date anyone.
/r/seduction31/05/12 09:11 PM
3

One thing you'll hear a lot in the seduction community is that what girls say they want and what they feel is two very different things. The goal of this subreddit is the 'feel' part. When you do things like naturally escalate and make them feel good, they'll already feel wanted without you declaring your love or actively trying to 'convince' them that your good enough for them(aka "Qualification").
/r/seduction30/05/12 04:42 PM
2

This is basically about 50% of the young Christians I know. They go to church, attend the summer camps, but really don't adhere to many of 'rules' and values but proudly flaunt their Christianity in the right settings (around church member).
/r/seduction30/05/12 02:18 PM
2

I only read the tldr because I'm on my phone, but this is spot on. Some I the funniest/most interesting people I know aren't the 'travel the world' or 'go out every night' types, but the way they tell their few simple experiences make them captivating to listen to. That being said, if you make a habit of spending a majority or your time in the house, you could be robbing yourself of seeing/meeting lots of different people, and your experiences will only make things easier for you.
/r/seduction30/05/12 03:22 AM
1

So come up with a reason to talk to girls. Comment on something they're wearing or something going on in the environment.
/r/seduction28/05/12 04:50 AM
2

Don't go crazy up in your head, she's not there. Yes, yes, yes. You can imagine all the possible scenarios in your head but in reality they really are just in your head and you are not a mind reader/ future teller.
/r/seduction27/05/12 05:44 PM
2

If I ever do this, I would make sure to be seen taking a few swigs by the person i'm offering.
/r/seduction25/05/12 10:46 AM
1

Speak louder. Breath in before you talk. And when you DO talk or say something, don't falter mid-way and trail off. Keep confidence in what you're saying until the very end. I have friends who really may not know much about the subject currently in the conversation, but the BS comes out of their mouths with such confidence that people take it as fact.
/r/seduction23/05/12 06:58 PM
4

First, things like cat-calling and saying "nice breasts" are obviously not acceptable a all and just stupid, but there's nothing wrong with telling a girl she's cute in the right setting and/or context. That being said, it sort of seems like views like this are what create AFC's. If I was a 14 year old kid just getting into the 'dating game' and read this, I would be scared to make the first move with any girl at all.
/r/seduction23/05/12 06:27 PM
4

60 percent of the time, works every time.
/r/seduction23/05/12 05:37 PM
7

This is interesting, but just in case there are guys who may actually be discouraged by this (even though the entire thing should be taken with a grain of salt): All it takes is literally a couple minutes of conversation to shatter any preconceived notions people make based on your looks, so get to talking.
/r/seduction23/05/12 05:30 PM
9

When a girl insists I don't use a condom it's a huge red flag for me.
/r/seduction23/05/12 08:08 AM
29

I blame the stigma that girls aren't supposed to like sleeping around. This forces some girls to play the 'im soo drunk' game so that the responsibility is taken off of them.
/r/seduction23/05/12 01:40 AM
1

It makes sense; the type of person who he describes is the type more likely to go with their emotions over logic, i.e. girls that cheat and say "it just sort of happened" or "I felt an unexplained connection with him".
/r/seduction21/05/12 06:24 PM
1

When you say you are good at conversation after the opener...what exactly do you mean? Because an 'opener' really is just a single line, or the first thing you say to them. Anything generic like "Hey" or "You seemed cute/interesting so I wanted to come over etc" is fine. There is no universal line that will make a girl's pants wet for you as soon as you talk to her. The opening really doesn't matter. If you're as good as you say you are once the conversation has started, then you don't have anyt…
/r/seduction20/05/12 03:17 AM
1

Not really 'approaching people' just start talking to everyone, both guys and girls. If you're on a bus next to a dude, strike up a conversation. Doing this constantly will give you more confidence in general with talking to people, with the added benefit that if you "come off as weird" you're likely never to see them again.
/r/seduction19/05/12 08:34 PM
1

Yup, that's what society does to us. But honestly, fuck what people 'accuse' you of. Nobody is obligated to get married or raise a family. If I don't want to do that then I won't. I've come to realize that 'growing up' is defined by one person: you and only you. When I feel like I'm ready to settle down, then I will, but for now, as long as I have the will to, I'm gonna party and have a blast.
/r/seduction19/05/12 05:34 AM
1

Well, you really can't/don't have a right to complain if you're in an affair.
/r/seduction14/05/12 06:34 AM
1

BudapestPUA said it right. If you're really comfortable with your current state in life, why would you feel like you deserve a more interesting girl? If you want to be more interesting, you need to be more interested. You have to actively pursue a more interesting life.
/r/seduction13/05/12 05:27 PM
13

What I used to imagine I would look like to girls if I ever hit on them.
/r/seduction12/05/12 06:18 AM
-2

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/r/seduction12/05/12 03:16 AM
33

This is alright stuff, but don't sell it as something that will magically rekindle her flame of attraction to you, it's just a text.
/r/seduction11/05/12 08:04 AM
3

Well thats the thing, you have to make it come naturally to you, and the only way to do that is with pratice/actually doing it. Fake it til you make it. If you think about it like the way you are now, then why are you here even looking for advice with dating? Whatever advice people tell you to do will go against you 'natural' way of doing things. If aren't a touchy/feely person, then become a touchy feely person.
/r/seduction11/05/12 04:39 AM
5

It sounds like your outlook is already changed, just from the fact that you've made this post. Now you actually need to go do something about it, reading the suggestions here and just saying 'yeah ok I'll think about that' is what we call "mental masturbation." Here some advice: the first thing you want to do to get over a pushover mentality is to raise your confidence. Go hit the gym, go to r/fitness and look up how to start working on getting stronger. Start random conversations with random pe…
/r/seduction10/05/12 07:14 PM
1

Maybe a little bit of bad luck, but mostly I'd say it's because you seem to be concentrating on only one girl at time. With only 3 girls that you each gamed 'exclusively', maybe you don't have enough options. One of the main things here is to stay generally sociable with as many people as possible, so you really get to meet and interact with many types of people and personalities to find the one that fits.
/r/seduction10/05/12 08:13 AM
1

Well he doesn't mean literally not answer any questions, but more like play around with them, and not as many straight answers, makes the conversation less boring.
/r/seduction10/05/12 02:12 AM
2

Exactly. If you really can't think of an 'opener' don't use it as an excuse not to approach; a simple "hey I thought I'd come over and see if you were more than just cute" is fine. It says your intentions, but shows that she has to impress you a little more than just looking pretty (qualification).
/r/seduction09/05/12 02:28 PM
3

Good job on the approach, the important thing is that you actually went for it. That said, I'm guessing you made the number thing seem too much of a big deal. The way you built it up in your head made it come out the way it did when you asked for it, and she probably picked up on that. Don't make it a deal at all, in fact, when I do it, I usually say goodbye and as I turn to leave I act like I just thought about it and turn back around, handing them my phone with something like 'hey put in your …
/r/seduction09/05/12 07:29 AM
1

Do you have to spend every weekend with close friends and family? Saying "I have a date" one night out of your weekend isn't gonna cause you to grow apart from them. Other than that I'd say your best bet is more 'mini-dates' like meeting up for coffee during lunch or any small pocket of time you might have.
/r/seduction07/05/12 06:17 AM
6

You got numbers written on a paper. Not her attraction or approval. No offense, but while I understand your idea (persistence can help), your argument doesn't really work; I know plenty of girls that give out numbers just to get guys to leave them alone/brag to girls about how many guys call them.
/r/seduction06/05/12 08:22 AM
20

Ok, the notion that men that are 'starved of sex' will have sex with anything with a hole is wrong and stupid. People may be afraid of sounding too harsh but it sounds like he's simply not attracted to you. That's life. I'm sure if a male came on here with this exact same story people would scold him for having 'oneitis; and that there's plenty of other girls out there that he could go for. I am now offering the same advice you: if you haven't been able to get anything out of a damn year of tryi…
/r/seduction06/05/12 08:15 AM
4

That's the whole point, it shouldn't affect you. If she wasn't directly confronting you or insulting you then it isn't your problem, some people are just hard to warm up to others.
/r/seduction05/05/12 07:55 PM
2

Maybe she was genuinely afraid she would lose you as a friend if she said no. Then again, being in a hospital bed for awhile can get you to thinking about things in your life so there's that.
/r/seduction05/05/12 02:15 PM
0

After about age 25 I stop calling them 'girls'.
/r/seduction05/05/12 05:50 AM
5

he seems like a great person to be around and he is clearly a social animal in that he can jump into any group and everyone crowds around him. Even myself That's because he's taken his 'game' and made it 100% part of him. He doesn't have game, anymore, he is it(or has been it from the beginning, since he's a natural). Most people here tend to 'turn on' whenever they feel like they need to, probably in situations where they go out to a bar, party etc. In other words they have a 'social mode' that…
/r/seduction05/05/12 03:06 AM
5

Sometimes i see people in life go about things without doing any of these things and get girls. etc. and everything they want in life without manipulating these "mind games". How do you know? If it's things like pickup lines you're talking about, then yeah, about 90% of those are BS and ridiculous. The things like eye contact and teasing aren't manipulation, you'll find that your friends that are 'naturals' actually do these things without explicitly thinking about them. Think about when you're …
/r/seduction05/05/12 12:50 AM
2

Depends on how/why it ended with your ex. Really think about it. Did it end because of something you did? If you're completely innocent and her excuse was BS then you were probably too good for her anyways. If it was mostly you then look and see what you can improve. Everyone has a 'connection' with someone that they feel they can't replicate, but this 'connection' is mostly just familiarity. If in some other universe, by some random chance you ended up with someone else you would probably have …
/r/seduction05/05/12 12:14 AM
4

I sort of blame technology. 'Back in the day' people didn't have as many excuses to stay inside the house, so literally the only way to communicate with anyone was to go out and do it. With porn, entertainment, and even food at our fingertips, it's easy to just not be good at socializing.
/r/seduction05/05/12 12:07 AM
14

The phrase itself isn't frowned upon, it's the people who use it as an excuse for idiocracy that are.
/r/seduction05/05/12 12:02 AM
51

Try to stop thinking that everything has an 'evolutionary purpose.' 'Oneitis'(really starting to loath this word) is a result of one thing only: lack of abundance. You've been going through life not actively doing anything to talk to the girls you want, so when one girl shows the slightest chance of wanting you, you latch on, thinking that this is a gem that you must not let go(which is wrong, of course). There are so many awesome girls out there; you just have to be willing to step out of your …
/r/seduction04/05/12 04:33 PM
40

Even more amazing: 'Small talk' with good eye contact is automatically flirting. I realized this when I was just chatting with a female classmate and made a habit of holding eye contact until her eyes would wander off. After a bit she would randomly smirk, blush, and play with her hair....and we were just talking about our majors.
/r/seduction04/05/12 03:38 AM
3

Then tone it down. Don't go out with multiple girls because you feel like you have to to maintain some 'alpha' image. If you feel a little less 'guilt' gaming just a few then do that. Also you need to look within yourself for your priorities. Do you really want to date multiple girls, or are you actually looking for a serious relationship, because there's nothing wrong with that no matter what many people on here say. The problem arises when you place your self-worth on having a relationship, wh…
/r/seduction03/05/12 09:03 PM
2

I've heard a lot that the idea if 'Negging' is mostly obsolete. What I hear to focus on around here mostly is playful teasing, where she knows you're being playful. Negging might work on the bitchier variety of chicks, but they're not my type anyhow.
/r/seduction03/05/12 07:57 PM
2

This is awesome! Also, seeing the almost 100 percent success rate you got with smiling and getting smiled at back, it's safe to say that you are probably pretty attractive regardless of how much more weight you have to lose (or at least an attractive smile). Keep it up!
/r/seduction03/05/12 07:45 PM
1

I don't know why prom is such a big deal. Prom is the date, so no, you don't have to go on a date to ask her out to a date. Honestly the people that make big spectacles like it's a marriage proposal are just looking a little attention; if the girl likes you then it won't matter how you ask her.
/r/seduction03/05/12 02:39 PM
3

Wow. Honestly, if you were my friend, and I was in front of you right now, you'd get a slap. All out, deafening five finger hammer to the side of the face. YES SHE LIKES YOU. YES YOU SHOULD HAVE KISSED HER. We're done here. Also, try to remember this: No matter how much a girl likes you or even knows you like her back, she's not gonna make the first 'move', only in maybe special cases. The farthest they'll go is making themselves 'available' for you to make a move, which is exactly what she did …
/r/seduction03/05/12 06:03 AM
1

It said be 'excellent', not 'the best'.
/r/seduction03/05/12 01:53 AM
2

Male bashing as a gender, or complaining about certain things men do? Because there's a difference. Saying things like "ugh girls can take so long to get ready" isn't exactly 'female bashing'.
/r/seduction03/05/12 12:09 AM
1

Ugh, FINE. I've read up on the sidebar stuff and have a good general knowledge of most of this stuff, but I've heard that program mentioned too many times to not check it out now.
/r/seduction02/05/12 07:48 PM
1

You have a girl naked lying in your bed. I think you did good enough, considering.
/r/seduction02/05/12 05:01 PM
2

You are overthinking it. You have a normal/above average size and girth. Besides, if you get to the point where a woman sees your penis, then you already have her, regardless of penis size.
/r/seduction02/05/12 04:56 PM
1

Well if they've changed how they act toward you then you have your answer right there, maybe there is some attraction there now.
/r/seduction02/05/12 04:54 PM
3

To be fair, my little sister is a fucking brat.
/r/seduction02/05/12 04:33 AM
3

You don't have to. If you casually mention it and it gets negative reaction, steer the subject away from it. If she has that strong of a prejudice against it then there's no real way to make people easily change their opinions or you. Otherwise things like racism wouldn't even be an issue.
/r/seduction01/05/12 05:14 AM
0

Maybe, if she had been in frame or had time to think about it, but by then she had already been knocked out of it and taken out of her frame. From the story it sounds like she was just barely stumbling over her words.
/r/seduction30/04/12 11:41 PM
2

I'm not talking about seduction, but WTF kind of genius underachieves A lazy one, that's what. I have a friend that just barely passes, and sometimes even fails tests at our college, but consistently passes the classes decently from making a 90 or above on the final. And that's when he actually put a little effort into it. Plenty of people have the minds, but not the drive to use them.
/r/seduction30/04/12 11:39 PM
10

I find that with generally more attractive girls, they do this because most of their male friends are guys that likely initially wanted something more, but didn't get past the friend stage so she has grown up with this as her only way of interacting with male friends.
/r/seduction30/04/12 06:21 AM
1

But why does a guy have to "take you out" for you to show any interest? Most of the time my 'first date' would be a quick coffee or inviting to a party/event, and after getting to know her a little more, we can do dinner and I'll offer to pay and so on. But to me, expecting me to offer on a first date is equivalent to a girl waiting by my car's passenger door for me to come around and open it for her, which is pretty ridiculous considering the times.
/r/seduction30/04/12 06:17 AM
2

The confident guy will be talking and joking with everybody.
/r/seduction30/04/12 05:00 AM
1

This is good. People will say "but you're not here to talk to guys" but really you're not supposed to be out to talk to girls either. You're there to be social and to have fun.
/r/seduction30/04/12 04:59 AM
2

Social Proof = Higher Value. What is a simpler way of showing initial social proof than coming out with friends?
/r/seduction30/04/12 04:56 AM
1

No, this was literally a light touch on the shoulder, and it was for less than a split second, so quick in fact that her reaction started after I had taken my hand away. And I've opened plenty of girls/people the same way and it's never been a problem. It's like, tapping someone on the shoulder to get their attention.
/r/seduction30/04/12 04:42 AM
1

Maybe a better way of putting it is that I know what needs to be done, but I haven't internalized properly it yet.
/r/seduction30/04/12 01:07 AM
6

The one thing I'm coming to terms with is that it's fully your own responsibility to attract the girls you want. Same things happens to me, my friend will introduce me to a couple of girls and then proceed to dominate the conversation/the girl's attention. I've learned now not to 'wait for my turn' in speaking and just chime in where I can, as long as I don't directly interrupt people. And try not to keep the 'chime in' mentality for too long, when the opportunity arises and you have a funny sto…
/r/seduction30/04/12 12:57 AM
10

Correct me if I'm wrong, but it seems like you're saying that you assume a guy isn't attracted to you if he doesn't pay for the first date or splits it evenly. If a guy isn't interested, why would he ask you out at all?
/r/seduction29/04/12 11:26 PM
1

Honestly, you don't have to go to clubs to meet the type of women you're talking about. Sounds like you'll meet more of these girls in your everyday places like school, library, coffee shop etc. Look more into day game. Even if you find shy introverted type girls, you're going to have to be a little outgoing to get to them.
/r/seduction29/04/12 04:48 PM
8

I'm pretty sure he didnt buy anything, if it was an on-campus party. It's likely she asked him for one just to open him, and he had it from there.
/r/seduction29/04/12 04:39 PM
2

Been wondering if one of us should say something. Seriously, I didn't know whether there just weren't any sedditors here or that it was not a 'prime' place for pickup like East/west coast. Glad to see some activity down here.
/r/seduction27/04/12 06:03 AM
15

Shave it all off. When it comes to hair, I notice that when people are trying to show off any hair-related style(beards, head, etc), it comes off worse. And I have to say that all of the people that I know that were balding early look totally badass going straight bald/buzzcut.
/r/seduction27/04/12 04:26 AM
1

And tells us how it goes!
/r/seduction26/04/12 02:14 PM
1

This statement that you are reading now is from a smartphone. It's really not hard, I'm not raging about it but it'll make people take your posts/comments more seriously.
/r/seduction26/04/12 02:05 PM
1

You whipping out your phone shouldn't matter if you have the girl's interest.
/r/seduction26/04/12 02:01 PM
11

No, she was clearly really good at picking up signals that he was into her.
/r/seduction26/04/12 05:50 AM
14

r/malefashionadvice. It's not really about dressing nice as it is about dressing clean and making sure your clothes fit well. You don't have to wear designer shirts everyday either.
/r/seduction26/04/12 05:36 AM
1

Awesome job man! I wish coming out of my shell was as smooth a process, but looks like you've adapted to your new mindset pretty fast! Seeing attractive girls as normal people is probably the most important aspect to communicating effective with them.
/r/seduction25/04/12 08:52 PM
43

Number 3 is hitting close to home. I'm good friends with a lot of AMOG types, and I can tell already that my new state of mind is starting to clash with them. The entire dynamic of our friendships are changing, and people really don't like change.
/r/seduction25/04/12 04:29 PM
1

But what you just said is changing your processes of thought. Maybe I should have gone into more detail. The 'mantra' isn't to convince yourself that it's true,(although if you do it well it will become true pretty fast) it's to help you determine the right mindset when it comes to communicating with people. In other words, talk to them as if you don't need to do anything to win affection, like you already have it. Obviously this isn't a skill that will immediately make you a hit with the ladies…
/r/seduction25/04/12 04:11 PM
2

It's all about baby steps. Start with starting up conversations with random people and girls who you aren't interested in. After doing this for a while you'll realize that people don't bite, and can be just as nervous/overthinking as you are when interacting with people. When you start to talk to more and more cute girls, you'll realize that they're just like everyone else too.
/r/seduction25/04/12 07:17 AM
1

It's more like talking to a person with a perfectly fine leg who thinks it's broken, but hasn't stopped limping long enough to realize it. Sometimes the best treatment really is serious introspection and change in view; there's only so much you can learn from reading here.
/r/seduction25/04/12 07:12 AM
4

You just answered your own question. YOU are your mind, don't try to see it as something you're separate from or can't control. Assume attraction. Assume Attraction. Assume. Attraction. Assume that every girl that you are interested in is already attracted to you. This will make things ten times easier. If you sit and whine about how some hidden force is controlling you, you won't get anywhere, not just in pickup but in life.
/r/seduction25/04/12 12:50 AM
1

Yup. Of course as you approach you should already be dancing/swaying with the beat. As you make eye contact and smile, just grab her hand and turn her around.
/r/seduction25/04/12 12:44 AM
8

I want you to ingrain a rule in your head. If you suspect a girl is trying to get your attention (like the girl in your story was), SHE IS. Approach her from the front making eye contact and if you get a positive reaction then go for the grind.
/r/seduction24/04/12 11:55 PM
1

More like hitting the gym all the time. From working out regularly not only do you constantly look 'pumped', but your body changes to look like it permanently (provided you are eating okay too).
/r/seduction23/04/12 04:47 PM
10

Sidebar?------>
/r/seduction21/04/12 08:43 AM
3

Meanwhile down here in Houston, we're constantly reminded that we live in the 'fattest city' in the country by multiple accounts.
/r/seduction20/04/12 12:32 AM
2

I'm a bit of a special introvert myself. I'm a 'man of few words', and love alone time, but I like social atmospheres like clubs/parties, even if I'm one of the quietest people there. People are entertaining to watch.
/r/seduction19/04/12 10:36 PM
6

This is great; most pua advice here is geared towards extroverts or making introverts act like extroverts, which can be quite mentally draining for us.(introverts) Notice: Introvert =/= shy, although many are. Look up what an 'introvert' actually is on Wikipedia. If there was a in depth guide on pua ideas geared toward introverts I would get it in a heartbeat.
/r/seduction19/04/12 10:06 PM
3

Actually it doesn't seem cocky at all. All he did was touch her shoulder earlier and go sit down. And they he told her playfully that she gets to hang out with him. The keyword is playfully. Obviously if he said that with a straight face it would come off as cocky. A good general guide is cockiness without humor= cocky asshole. Cockiness with humor = confident and funny.
/r/seduction19/04/12 09:54 AM
15

This is really good. Negging like this could work really well against the type of girl that would 'command' you to buy her a drink.
/r/seduction18/04/12 04:35 PM
2

The key is to stay congruent to what's on your mind. If you think 'I have nothin to say' then you will have nothing to say. If you really can't come up with anything, then go for straight 'I thought you seemed interested and wanted a better look' or some variation. Not a cheesy 'pick up line' and likely closest/congruent to what you were actually thinking.
/r/seduction17/04/12 05:25 PM
2

It's okay, I'm (nearly) in the same situation as you. It's easy to think "this shouldn't be so hard! People get with one another all the time!" and it's true. You can read all the material and mental masturbate all you want but the one thing you that will keep you from reaching 'everybody else' is courage/confidence. Even AFC's in relationships had to have that one moment of courage where they asked their girl out, so imagine if you could maintain that level of confidence all time...you'd be uns…
/r/seduction17/04/12 05:17 PM
1

Weird to see another Nigerian here, most of my friends/family would be too proud to actively try to improve their 'game.' more props to ya though.
/r/seduction17/04/12 07:12 AM
2

Yeah words like 'free soul' should immediately tell you she's pretty against commitment at this point. I'd say you should replay with something like 'I wasn't pertaining to you exactly, it was just a general statement'.
/r/seduction16/04/12 08:26 PM
2

If you've read up on the sidebar stuff and are regular here, there's nothing extra to know. The fact that it's a singles thing should make it easier, in fact.
/r/seduction16/04/12 06:46 PM
1

Date/talk to other women; don't see any potential woman that you're talking to as your only option. This is the only 'cure' (if you can even call it that) for oneitis. Also, I'm beginning to not even like the word, it's thrown around way to much here.
/r/seduction16/04/12 03:43 AM
1

I agree, the f-close doesn't matter, you essentially achieved the same level of closure.
/r/seduction15/04/12 04:04 PM
7

Haha, staying congruent to the post, I like it.
/r/seduction15/04/12 03:52 PM
1

No I don't mean just females, I mean dating more than one at a time (not real relationships, a casual fun thing). When you have more options, naturally you won't emotionally invest too much in one.
/r/seduction15/04/12 03:42 PM
1

It's probably because you don't have enough girls in your life. This is why seddit doesn't condone just focusing on one girl at a time.
/r/seduction15/04/12 03:24 PM
3

If you think 'whats the point, it won't matter anyways' then why are you even in this subbreddit? The fact that you're here trying to improve yourself means it does matter to you, so drop those silly thoughts and approach very 'girl of your dreams' you see on the street.
/r/seduction15/04/12 03:22 PM
3

Good guide, but saying to sit however you feel comfortable and then explaining exactly how you should sit is a bit contradictory.
/r/seduction14/04/12 10:50 PM
3

I feel like you just explained confidence.
/r/seduction13/04/12 07:51 PM
2

Light is one of the most interesting characters in anything I've watched/read.
/r/seduction13/04/12 06:13 PM
1

That didn't sound stupid at all. Before becoming well read in most of this PUA stuff, I would envy other people that seemed to have a lot going on according to their Facebook profiles. I imagine if that's what I thought then it must be a pretty good DHV.
/r/seduction13/04/12 02:39 PM
9

Why would hitting on other women piss her off? If you're really in the friendzone she wouldn't care. If she does get upset when you flirt with other girls then you should have no problem getting with her.
/r/seduction12/04/12 11:07 PM
4

Not irony, just funny.
/r/seduction12/04/12 10:36 PM
9

If you are getting girls into your room and making out of course they are gonna expect something more. If you want a long meaningful thing then do your normal 'charms' and then ask her out. After givin her a good time on a date then you've set the tone for the relationship.
/r/seduction12/04/12 10:33 PM
2

One that I've personally come up with is "I'm majoring in underwater basket weaving", then I go on a tangent about how the profession is seen as a joke but is actually a very serious and deep occupation, and I act fake offended whenever she giggles as I'm talking.
/r/seduction12/04/12 10:09 PM
1

If you were in a relationship then I wouldn't call it a friendzone.
/r/seduction12/04/12 10:02 PM
10

now judging from this, in my mind I thought she just wasnt that into me, and only going out with me just because(only kissing me when drunk), but i was really into her so i decided to end it. I called her and said things are going to fast, in which she things asked if i wanted to take things slower, and i said no just to end it. I literally cringed. You've fucked up big time. After that I wouldn't try to reconnect with her. You're first mistake is thinking that the techniques applied in the PUA …
/r/seduction12/04/12 09:29 AM
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If the information on here was well known, then this subbreddit wouldn't have many people in it. You say anyone with 'adequate social intelligence' should already know this but the really not everybody does. This isn't a subbreddit for people that have everything together romantically with their live lives, it's for the people who have tried and failed with whatever girls they were interested in and are fed up enough to seek help. Saying 'be confident' is way too general to be helpful to anyone,…
/r/seduction11/04/12 07:56 PM
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Haha, yeah, what loser would carry those around... Hides safety scissors behind back
/r/seduction11/04/12 05:38 PM
3

His name is wikal!
/r/seduction11/04/12 04:37 PM
2

You just beautifully explained my entire reason for subbing this subbreddit; I've never really been able to put it in words.
/r/seduction11/04/12 05:13 AM
1

Exactly. With reddit's grammar obsession, it seems like people can't tell the difference between someone who's just lazy with words and someone who first language isn't English. This is pretty obviously the latter.
/r/seduction11/04/12 04:47 AM
2

You don't 'go' anywhere. The point of day game is approaching girls over the course of your everyday life. You might be grocery shopping and see a cutie down the isle looking for something. You could be having your morning coffee and see a girl sitting at the table next to you. Hell, you could be in class or at work and see a girl there. Day game is taking the opportunity in these everyday moments to approach women outside of a 'social' setting.
/r/seduction11/04/12 04:11 AM
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I'd say this is more r/relationship material since you seem to be focused on this one girl. Personally, I wouldn't deal with a long distance thing unless I was already committed to her and she to me. As it is now, according to your story you guys seem to be just 'friends that know they like eachother', so if I were you I wouldn't expect much from it. I'll repeat for emphasis: since you guys aren't committed (ie. you identify as boyfriend/girlfriend) don't expect her to 'wait for you' for two yea…
/r/seduction11/04/12 04:02 AM
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You did pretty well, heck I'm well versed in theory but still lack the balls/practice to cold approach a group of people, so that's a point in itself. Good job on touching the target yet keepin the attention away from her, really got her to feel the need the qualify, which is another plus. I think you did well, not every interaction has to end with a k or f-close, like many here seem to do.
/r/seduction10/04/12 05:19 PM
2

This is the nicest 'cool story bro' I've ever read.
/r/seduction10/04/12 05:10 PM
1

The 'people that you see with other people'... how do you know how long they've known eachother? For all you know they've just met. The people who are best with meeting new people/talking to girls are the ones that talk to people like they've know them forever. I've seen some of my friends go to clubs, dance with girls, kisses and affectionate hugs when they leave and I ask "do you know her from class or something?" and they always reply "nope, just met her five minutes ago"
/r/seduction10/04/12 04:58 PM
1

Depends, if you think back to when you were hooking up, did she seem like she was really 'into' it? Some girls will literally just make out with anybody when they're tipsy enough. I would have said something along the lines of 'let's get out of here' (cliche I know, but doesn't really matter) and grabbed her hand guiding her upstairs. Straight out asking or suggesting and waiting for a response can be a bad idea, and is the same thing as asking her 'do you want to go and have sex?' which is of c…
/r/seduction07/04/12 02:38 PM
2

You should have escalated when you were hooking up the first time, if it was really a 'solid amount of time' you should have gone for it. Talking about 'how fun it would be to go upstairs' would have been more effective with your hand already down her pants and her turned on in the heat of the moment.
/r/seduction07/04/12 10:50 AM
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When she looked at you for 5 seconds, why didn't you go for the kiss? You basically set yourself up for it with that convo, and didn't follow through. She likely saw this as an IOD. If you were really trying to keep up an 'alpha' image, that's where you broke it.
/r/seduction07/04/12 02:03 AM
3

This is really it. Say something congruent to what you're feeling, anything else wont sound great. Something along the lines of 'hey you know I always see you around but we've never officially met, I'm blah blah blah and so on and so forth. Also: about 'seeming creepy': repeat after me. "I am not creepy." I tell you what's creepy: that guy who always looks at her but does say anything. What's creepy is a guy being interested in a girl but not doing anything about it. that's weird. So stop being …
/r/seduction07/04/12 01:43 AM
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It's not weird. This is what causes problems for so many young people. Talking to people is not weird. So many opportunities and potential friendships and relationships are missed out because people feel it will be 'weird' to talk to the person. Like someone above said, ask her where she got her shirt or something, doesn't really matter what you say, just talk to her. Without the confidence to do this as little as this I guarantee you won't be able to get the girls you want.
/r/seduction06/04/12 04:32 PM
3

I'm assuming you're female (correcting me if I'm wrong) so I can definitely see how that makes attracting guys much easier. It's like every shy AFC's dream to meet a similarly shy girls that will talk to him.
/r/seduction05/04/12 07:48 PM
2

You'd be surprised how much you can learn about people by simply paying attention. (not talking to you directly, just anyone who reads this). This is something that's always intrigued me. Could you go deeper into examples of recognizable speech patterns in people and what you conclude/guess from them?
/r/seduction05/04/12 06:35 PM
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You just don't directly ask someone how much they make. If this was a private conversation I wouldn't think anymore of it, but this guy asked a pretty intrusive question in front of group like that, and even before I came across this subbreddit I would be wary of people like this(the author even said he suspected nothing until he dropped this question). Usually after I would innocently and truthfully answer those questions their 'interest' in me would subside, as they had achieved what they want…
/r/seduction05/04/12 06:30 PM
3

Good job on coming out of your shell, just remember that you're there to have a good time and not just to pick up chicks. As for girls and their friends most people here will tell you that you need to talk to and chat up the whole set before singleing one out. Win over a girl's friends and they might even help you. Also, I realize you've been successful a lot but chill out on the 'how do I get rid of one so I can fuck the other one' attitude, it contradicts the idea of just being out to have fun…
/r/seduction05/04/12 05:59 AM
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First of all you need to get rid of some bad preconceptions. You should stop thinking that you need to have met a girl before/have a friend already know them/be in your class for you to talk to them. Don't rely on these common social crutches. If you read a lot of the field reports on here most of them are opening conversations with girls totally out of the blue, with some guys even outright saying 'hey I thought you looked cute/interesting and wanted to talk to you'. Also, you have to remember …
/r/seduction05/04/12 05:47 AM
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You're over thinking it. Being 'alpha' isn't this magical state that makes woman orgasm just by looking at you. It's basically not giving a fuck what people think. Go ahead and leave a witty comment or something, stop worrying about what it will 'look like.' Just don't go through all her pictures and leave comments on everyone of them.
/r/seduction05/04/12 05:24 AM
1

Also: every other Jarl in Skyrim.
/r/seduction05/04/12 05:02 AM
4

Aww damnit... zips up pants
/r/seduction05/04/12 05:00 AM
1

In my opinion, you aren't looking for girls in the right place. Like someone above said, the only girls that will accept your abstinence is the girls that are abstinent themselves. If you are that adamant about your religious beliefs, then it's probably a good idea to try to limit your chase to girls that share those beliefs. Trying to make out with just random people you meet the will only cause many more situations like the one you had today( using all the seduction techniques and creating exp…
/r/seduction04/04/12 10:49 PM
1

This is awesome, using congruency to achieve optimum state. I really think this is the first thing many people new to PUA should watch, because most of the materia out there is useful, butl could lead guys into not acting like themselves at all and destroying their chances at doing well.
/r/seduction04/04/12 04:05 AM
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How about all 3 for me. I'm an engineering major who only recently became agnostic after growing up as a shy goody-two shoes Pastor's Kid. Hasnt been easy, but I've started to talk to more people and types of people and coming out of my shell. I try to use the advice on here for everyday interactions rather than just for girls and it's getting much better.
/r/seduction31/03/12 12:52 AM
1

This is what I've been trying to do. Before I would have the mentality that when I joined conversations, people would think "who is this guy and why is he talking in our convo" but I'll say that 100% that I've done it, people respond positively, especially if it's something relevant.
/r/seduction31/03/12 12:33 AM
1

I imagine the people that actually maintain eye contact long enough for me to do this have above average confidence already.
/r/seduction29/03/12 02:41 PM
2

When it all comes down to it, that's what we really are isnt it? An advanced version of the animal kingdom.
/r/seduction28/03/12 09:58 PM
1

I Agee with the striking while the iron is hot. Girls are pretty flaky in general already and two days later the feelings from the night you met wouldnt be fresh anymore. The old '3 day rule' is outdated and not really effective.
/r/seduction28/03/12 07:06 PM
1

This should help you a little.
/r/seduction27/03/12 10:16 PM
1

Heh, by that point you don't need much more advice from this site
/r/seduction27/03/12 09:55 PM
1

You just have to remember that with touching/familiarity is has to escalate. You Can't jump from doing nothing and not touching her to suddenly hugging and caressing her. I'll find a link for you in a bit.
/r/seduction27/03/12 09:52 PM
1

Let me rephrase: the awkwardness in your head is the source of it. If you didn't feel awkward then the situation wouldn't have been awkward.
/r/seduction27/03/12 09:49 PM
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I'd add on to this by saying to really be interesting you have to be interested. Naturally a lot of the things you listed may not be things many people on this site really want to go out and do. The best way to pick up stories and gain experience is the be actively looking for them and if they don't sound interesting enough to you then you can't expect others to find you interesting either.
/r/seduction27/03/12 06:46 PM
2

Just a quick tip: showering a girl with compliments is not the best way to build attraction, despite what you might think, epsecially if she's prettier. You need to show you're attracted to her by escalating kino(which you'll read about too) and initiating most of the contact. Its only awkward if it's awkward to you. I'll repeat that: the only person that makes a situation awkward is you, it's all in your head. If she shies away or is "scared" away, the you need to accept the fact that she just …
/r/seduction27/03/12 05:39 PM
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This has happened to me twice. I decided I would 'wait' for a bit before going for a girl that just became available but I was always too late. You dont have to go up to her and say LET'S GO OUT NOW, but you need start building attraction immediately, and you don't have to go out on a date with her to begin this. I hate to parrot everyone else, but you really should read the sidebar stuff to understand this a little more, trust me, makes a huge difference.
/r/seduction27/03/12 04:01 PM
6

You're not giving enough context. How do you know these girls? Where were you? Which peers?
/r/seduction27/03/12 01:03 AM
4

I have to run for now. The Most Interesting Man in the world has shit to do. Good show!
/r/seduction26/03/12 07:11 PM
1

Someone above has addressed it but I'll say it again for emphasis: stop your habit of asking if she got your messages. It comes off as a bit needy. Like the earlier post said, just pretend those messages didn't happen and wait a few days before messaging again. Your working around her schedule and if her interest level was the same/higher than yours then she would be trying to make time for you, I'd say to lay off for a bit and try talking to some other people/girls.
/r/seduction26/03/12 04:55 AM
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I'm pretty much a total rookie in the 'field' right now but from all the information I've gotten from this sub reddit I can tell you that ANY awkwardness only comes from your head. If you feel something is awkward, then she will pick up on it and feel awkward. 'Nervous energy' is contagious and the source is probably you. I'm guessing your problem is that and that your kino is still a little too 'reserved'. You could start with a light touch on the shoulder now and then or a playful push here an…
/r/seduction26/03/12 04:42 AM
1

Dude that is awesome. I'm still getting used to the eye contact part, I tend to chicken out and look away first.
/r/seduction24/03/12 11:11 PM
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-------------> Sidebar.
/r/seduction23/03/12 06:32 AM
2

I'd say start with the Approach anxiety link.
/r/seduction23/03/12 06:06 AM
2

You know this i even more spot on than one might think. You can never learn/do well in a math class with just reading the textbook. You have to practice and do plenty of problems to get it down. From a lot of the advice I've heard so far, it's the exact same thing with PUA. You have to get out there and make yourself do it over and over.
/r/seduction22/03/12 01:30 AM
1

Or maybe it shows we're not as weird as we think...
/r/seduction19/03/12 12:32 AM
2

I'm surprised this hasnt gotten much attention, this subbreddit is full of epiphanies...
/r/seduction18/03/12 09:50 PM
2

I don't see anything downvote worthy in this post, stay classy seddit.
/r/seduction08/03/12 02:30 AM
1

Having no money to travel is a cop out?
/r/seduction17/12/11 08:07 AM
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