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I'm free to listen to real women in the real world who say things you don't agree with. I'll always listen to real women I know or meet in real life in regards to how women behave/act or treat men over what strangers say on the internet.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/23 05:22 PM
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I'm free to listen to real women in my real life who tell me things that are the opposite of what a stranger online tells me.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/23 05:01 PM
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I believe what the women in my life do and tell me. That's me exercising my free will to do so. I also benefit the most from listening to women in real life over strangers on the internet.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/23 04:56 PM
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I believe what women in my life tell me over what you or anyone else says online.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/23 04:46 PM
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I believe women when they do, say or tell me things and those things don't fall in line with what you've told me.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/23 04:39 PM
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I'm free to believe the women in my life over you or redpill. I'm free to believe the women I meet or see on the streets over you or the redpill.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/23 04:33 PM
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Yes I'm free to not believe what you or the redpill say about women.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/23 04:22 PM
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I'm free to not believe the things you say about women.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/23 04:11 PM
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I'll continue to not believe the things you tell me about women because I have free will.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/23 03:56 PM
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Thank you for letting me exercise my free will like I said I was going to. I appreciate it.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/23 03:50 PM
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I'm not doing anything you suggest.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/23 03:47 PM
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Ok so I don't need to do anything but you keep informing me of things I need to do. I don't need to learn anything but you keep informing me of things I need to learn. I don't need to agree but you keep presenting your case that so that I agree with you. It's plainly obvious by you continuingly responding to me that you want me to agree, believe or think something.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/23 03:27 PM
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I don't need to understand, accept, learn, listen etc. I have free will and nothing you say will affect my life. You're giving me all this education when I don't care because in your mind I have to be made aware of this stuff. I don't agree you can say I'm wrong but I don't agree with that either. There's nothing for me to learn here.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/23 03:16 PM
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That's a lot of explaining for someone who doesn't need me to care about what they are talking about. Any way you want to slice this I don't have to agree with you I have free will and experience the opposite of everything you say. Again you have told me this multiple, multiple times in many different ways and I've flat out said I do not agree, I don't care yet here you are still finding new ways to get me to care, to agree. So this obviously is something you want me to accept because you won't …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/23 11:40 AM
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I actually do need to care because here you are telling/teaching me these things and here I am refuting their utility because I don't experience the experiences you experience. If I didn't need to care you wouldn't keep responding to let me know you'd just tell me once see it isn't working and move on. So continue repeating the things I supposedly don't need to care about but are still important enough that you must continually remind me of them.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/23 10:48 AM
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I don't care what you're telling me either because it won't change the behavior of the women around me. Tell me more useless things that won't change my life in literally any way at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/23 08:29 AM
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And you're trying to convince me its just what it is and I'm telling you I don't care because it doesn't affect the way I've seen women treat men. Also none of those men were in my circles I see losers get nexted on a daily basis trying to bother women in public with romantic attention.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/23 09:12 PM
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It's not my attention. Every man I have seen in real life romantically accosting women in public has been shot down. I acknowledge what you say happens it's not something far fetched like gorillas flying an airplane or something. I have just never seen it so I don't care about it. I care about what I see women do with my own two eyes.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/23 08:56 PM
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Yeah and women getting mad at nobody men who accost them for romantic attention in public is real. It's what I see all the time so I care about that because its what I see frequently with my own two eyes in real life.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/23 08:49 PM
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If both situations exist in the same reality but I experience my situation more thats what I'm going to care about it. That's the reality I'm going to observe and pay attention to because I have to. I can't change what women do around me I can only observe. I told you about that observation and it shapes why I think about the things I think about in regards to women. You see different things which is why you think differently from me. That's fine but that doesn't create a need for me to change m…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/23 08:38 PM
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You said you take my evidence as fact and what I saw around me is true. My evidence for how women act around random men accosting them for romantic attention in public is my observable reality. You said my evidence about how those women acted was a fact so that means what I'm observing is my reality in regards to women and that's a fact and what I'm observing (my evidence) as to what's going on around me is women don't like romantic attention when out in public. When it comes to women I believe …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/23 08:21 PM
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You told me my observable reality in regards to how women treat men is a fact. My observable reality is what I care about when we are talking about women which is what we are talking about. You can tell me that's not logical or incorrect or whatever but that's not for you to decide because it's my life. Again your "teachings" aren't going to benefit me in any way. I live differently than you and will continue to live well because of it and you need to come to terms with that. Different people be…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/23 07:45 PM
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Oh wow another attempt at someone who disagrees with me telling me to agree with them I wonder what I'll do? Good thing nothing you say will change the observable reality around me or else I'd be inclined to believe you.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/23 07:21 PM
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Was that another attempt at convincing me of your cringepill teachings? Still didn't work.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/23 06:58 PM
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I do need to care because you're trying to teach me something and it isn't working. Your teachings won't change my observable reality so I don't care what you have to teach. Again next time you think you're good at teaching Redditors about the cringepill or anything really, try minding your own businesses instead.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/23 06:51 PM
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Dude I don't care about your "case". Your "cases" your "teachings" won't change my observable reality. It won't change how those women treated those men and it won't change what I continue to see everyday. You failed at teaching me anything. Actually wait, you taught me my observable reality was a fact so thanks for that but everything else I guess go back to cringepill school so you can get better at convincing people on Reddit of your "teachings" lmao.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/23 04:36 PM
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I understand I just don't care because it won't change my observable reality. It won't change how women in my reality treated men when they got romantically accosted by them. I know that is a fact now per your admission so I'm content with that. I'm glad the reality I can see with my eyes happened and is factual and you also know that. My life is my big picture. It's what I care about. I can't control how women in my reality act I just observed it, I told you and you're saying you see the opposi…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/23 04:00 PM
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Literally none of that explains why listening to you or cultpill is going to change how the women act around me. Like that's a tasty word salad you just wrote but it's not changing what women do around me. If I held my breath waiting for the things to happen you say are going to happen id be dead. I don't think it's ever going to stop being hilarious that you can't handle that I don't have to agree with you. Like I'm more than likely never going to experience the things you're describing but eve…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/23 03:16 PM
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I'm saying women I have observed in my reality don't. It's obviously possible women can act in the way you're describing but I've never seen it so I don't care. It's like how a person could be afraid of walking around by themselves after they get jumped. They might think twice about going to certain places alone because they have experienced being randomly assaulted. I've never experienced that so I don't worry or care about getting beaten up when walking around town I do it anyway without a sec…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/23 03:00 PM
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You told me that what I saw women doing to men after they gave these women romantic attention in public was a fact. I saw those women look angry at those men, not happy with these men and their behavior at all from the looks on their very faces and they blew past these men like they might as well have been trash on the sidewalk. That's my reality. It always has been. This is both about me (because it's my reality) and the people I've seen within the reality around me. You confirmed that was fact…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/23 08:42 AM
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The opposite of what I experience in my reality can obviously happen but that doesn't mean I have to care about it. In my reality all the men I've seen giving women romantic attention in public fail miserably and the women look angry and blow past them on the streets like they are rats scurrying on the sidewalk in front of them. That's my reality/what I care about. Only the things that happen in my reality are actually relevant to me/what I care about at the end of the day. I've never personally…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/23 08:20 AM
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I don't care what does or doesn't happen with your reality. I only care about mine. And I told you about the "evidence" that I experienced with women and you said it was a fact. Those experiences are my reality. Nothing I do or say or think will change how those women factually acted I can only observe. Which I did. So again nothing you do or say will change that reality for me either so it ultimately doesn't matter what you're telling me. Give it another go that didn't work either.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/23 08:51 PM
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That doesn't explain why I should listen to your reality or redpills reality over my own if you just told me my reality my "evidence" is a fact. If what I experience is real then that's all that matters to me because believing what you say won't change my established reality that has existed before you decided to interrupt it with your cult teachings. Try again.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/23 08:23 PM
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So if what I saw is a fact why should I care about anything you have to say? Why should I read the redpill or acknowledge anything they tell me when I experience the exact opposite all the time? Like don't tell me you wasted 10 days on Reddit just to let me know that I should believe what I believe and you should believe what you believe.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/23 07:54 PM
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You're already operating under the idea that your "evidence" is fact because you say so. The thing is I don't need to argue with you about your anecdote, I only need to defend my anecdotes because no matter what you say I have experienced the opposite. So ultimately I don't care what your personal life experiences are because they're not mine. But see what's really happening here is this isn't my "evidence" vs your "evidence" it's you looking for the "evidence" of my "evidence". I say I see wome…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/23 07:15 PM
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That's your "evidence". My "evidence" is they not only walk away but are obviously trying their best to ignore this loser while looking very upset after they were bothered with romantic attention they didn't want. Why is your "evidence" better than mine if both are anecdotal?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/23 05:48 PM
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You're the one assuming they like public romantic attention at the end of the day even though there is way more "evidence" they don't like the attention. Again blowing past these weirdo men being visibly upset is actual "evidence" for team "fuck off loser" instead of team "wow I love it when men randomly approach me, my self worth is so high now as a result". It's funny how you incessantly whined your anecdotal world view is right. But then you use your "proverb"/"saying" to tell me to keep watc…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/23 01:52 PM
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I never hear them say they like romantic attention followed by them being visibly upset they got romantic attention. Or do their actions not matter anymore either since they confirm a reality you don't believe in? You saying "watch what they do not what they say" in response to my observation is you acknowledging that their obvious lack of enthusiasm towards romantic attention in public is them saying they don't like the attention in the first place. Because if not, you're telling me to just kee…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/23 01:39 PM
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You told told me when I said I never hear women say they like romantic attention to not pay attention to that. So what's going on here is when I hear that women think a certain way. When I don't hear them liking romantic attention but in fact the opposite we don't pay attention to that. But when you say you hear online that women like free drinks we pay attention to that and the proverb is no longer in effect. Awfully convenient aka your full of shit and only want to hear your personal life anec…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/23 12:34 PM
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When I said "I have never heard a woman say she likes receiving any sort of romantic attention in public" you said "watch what they do not what they say". Of course there the "proverb" is in full effect. But when you say watch what women say about free drinks online the "proverb" isn't in effect anymore. Isn't it funny how when I say I hear or don't hear women say things you say don't pay attention but when you say you hear or don't hear women say things I have to pay attention. You're a hypocri…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/23 08:46 PM
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Yes you did. Its convenient when I say certain things about women it's "watch what they do not what they say". "Proverbs" in full effect. But when you say watch what women say online the "proverb" or whatever is not in effect anymore. Again you don't get to decide when the "proverb" gets used. I do because I say so like they basis of all your talking points. Bro you clearly did not read the AuthropluraPill and are arguing against what it means. You should read up on it before thinking you know w…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/23 07:29 PM
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Yes you did. I also know what I did and didn't do and what I did is catch you in a contradiction. The saying is supposedly not relevant only in scenarios of you're choosing so that it isn't contradictory. When I say that women said something now we don't listen to what women say. Too bad you don't get to decide when the application of the "saying" becomes relevant for your arguments convenience. You're going to say it's not applicable in any scenario that makes it look contradictory which is coo…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/23 02:42 PM
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Yes you did but you still don't get to decide where it's used, I do because I say so and that's perfectly reasonable because you think that everything you say is right just because you say so. Again I know exactly what I'm talking about. You contradicted yourself and don't like that I caught you in a contradiction so of course the "proverb" isn't applicable in a scenario you have chosen entirely because you say so, well I say that it is applicable because I say so. I've been consistent in tellin…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/23 01:18 PM
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No thats where you're saying it's applied entirely because you say so. I've explained that to you already many many times. You didn't come up with it but you're deciding where it gets to be used and you don't get to decide that. I do. Go back and reread everything I've been writing so you can understand that I'm right because I say so. There's nothing consistent about telling me not to watch what women say and then telling me to watch what they say online. Your attempts at a gotcha don't suddenl…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/23 04:11 PM
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The opinion is where you want the "saying", "proverb" whatever to be applicable. You don't get to decide that the proverb stops when you're talking about women online but starts when I am talking about what I have heard women say. Again that's more of you saying things are the way they are entirely because you say so which is bullshit based off nothing. No you have to listen to me. I'm the source and I say the proverb wasn't applicable when you slipped up and said to also watch what women say on…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/23 03:47 PM
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You can't just deflect it from being your opinion by saying go read the red pills opinion on this bro. Like your opinion is shaped by red pills opinion both of which are completely meaningless. What is right in the context of this sub is entirely an opinion too. Again I don't care about some reddit nobody's opinion. You can't even know how everyone here would view a contradictory command like don't watch what women say, later on followed by but watch what they say online. This whole paragraph yo…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/23 11:14 AM
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I don't care what limits you know in regards to the "proverb". That's entirely your opinion on where the "proverbs" application starts and stops. You're just going on to explain the same thing where the "proverb" usage/application is entirely dictated by what you say because you say so. You have no authority on what I should or shouldn't think about where that "proverb" is applied. You have no authority or even a way to prove you know what women think, say or feel. That's up for the individual w…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/23 07:11 AM
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No the "saying" is completely contradictory and up to interpretation. You don't get to decide where the limit of application is, what women actually mean when they say words and you also don't get to decide what I think. All these concepts are up to the interpretation of the individual. You can think what you want to think as that's the nature of individual interpretation but I'm going to think what I'm going to think. And what I think is you contradicted yourself. You can't expect me to interpr…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/23 09:17 PM
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The "saying" isn't whatever you say it means. It's vague, it's contradictory and ultimately it's stupid. You don't get to decide what portion of a woman's speech I listen to. I choose that for myself, again you're not the authority on anything you're a stranger on Reddit. You told me to not watch what women say and then you tell me to watch what they say online. You can't just turn around and say "well obviously because I said so bro this was the portion of women saying things you were supposed …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/23 08:13 PM
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I'm saying it's impossible to watch what a woman says online when you told me not to watch what women say. I also see different women not accepting drinks too. I see women ignoring losers who shoot their shot on the daily as well. I just know and have known so many women on a friend level who tell me these things that to me that's more than enough and way more credible. I don't care about your anecdotes anyway dude there's literally no way I or you can prove them true. I don't trust anything you…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/23 07:57 PM
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Every woman I know personally doesn't like free drinks from nobodies and won't accept free drinks from nobodies. They also don't like getting hit on by nobodies and ignore nobodies. So actions are matching their words. You can give me your anecdotal take and I can give you mine but that's all it will be is anecdote. In my lived experience women don't accept free drinks or attention from nobodies. So actually this is all up to interpretation because the subject itself is based entirely off anecdo…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/23 04:37 PM
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Bro you can use whatever proverbs you want it's still ultimately based on your anecdotal opinion in the end. No woman would agree with the idea of me not paying attention to every word they say and only watching their actions. So basically this "proverb" is whatever you personally say it is but you're not the authority on what women actually think. I can listen to whatever a woman says to me because you're not the authority on what I have to pay attention to when it comes to women. So even if we…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/23 03:59 PM
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No it's what you want it to mean. If I tell you to paint a box green. That means paint the whole box green it doesn't mean paint only the underside of the box green and leave everything else alone. You told me to "watch what they do not what they say". And I can totally do that. But what I can't do is then watch what women say online because that's a contradiction.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/23 03:41 PM
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What you're describing is what you want the sentence to mean so it's not a contradiction. Which of course you're going to do because you want your logic to be consistent. Your giving clarification on what you meant now after I called you out but "watch what they do not what they say" will always mean pay attention to their actions not their words. It doesn't mean pay attention to their actions while listening to very specific things they say. That literally makes zero sense. Again it's your faul…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/23 02:47 PM
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I am listening to you. You told me verbatim "watch what they do not what they say". That's what I'm doing. But unfortunately you also told me to watch what they say online in regards to free drinks. So the best thing I can do with that contradictory information is just call you out on it.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/23 10:22 PM
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No it's what we're talking about. You just called yourself a fisherman and said to listen to you. You told me to "watch what they do not what they say". Ok I got you. I'll ignore women's words but pay attention to their actions. Oh wait but you also told me to pay attention to their words online in regards to accepting free drinks. Shucks now we have a contradiction on our hands. It's not a misunderstanding it's just your inability to stay logically consistent throughout this debate.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/23 11:58 AM
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No that's not what we are talking about. We're talking about how you said "watch what they do not what they say". If you tell me to not watch what they say and then you also tell me to watch what they say online what do I do? I can't do anything because those two commands contradict one another. And I am following you fisherman. You wrote in your own words "watch what they do not what they say." You then tell me to watch what they say online. I can't watch what they said online if you also told …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/23 08:58 PM
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You said "watch what they do not what they say" if I follow that advice you gave me I then can't watch what women said about free drinks online. We're talking about your sentence "watch what they do not what they say". Everything else is just you expanding upon/changing the words in it because you've been made aware of the contradiction and don't want the words of that sentence to be in that exact way or sequence they already are anymore. "Watch what they do not what they say" is the contradicto…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/23 08:38 PM
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It doesn't matter who said it first you used it as a point in your debate and it contradicts your other point about watching what women say online about free drinks. It's not my problem you want me to interpret it differently now because it's an obvious contradiction you've been made aware of. If I follow "watch what they do not what they say" to the letter I then can't watch what women said about free drinks online. Contradiction. Case closed. Maybe choose your words or red pill sayings more ca…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/23 08:21 PM
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I am trying to follow your logic dude. You told me to "watch what they do not what they say". And then you go on to tell me to watch what they say online. How can I watch what they said online if you told me to not watch what they say? The real solution is to not follow any logic you present me with at all because you've proven yourself to have inconsistencies with your own logic. Not only that but you quintuple down on your inconsistent logic too showing your perfectly fine giving me logic that…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/23 08:03 PM
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Oh I see what you're saying now. Gosh how could I be so dumb? Hurr durr. All I have to do is just agree with everything you're saying and not look for flaws in your logic in the first place even though that's the entire point of a debate. Wow that just flew right over my head. Lmao. But seriously, I should be able to take what you say at face value at any point in the conversation and it shouldn't contradict any new points you expand upon further in the debate or else it proves the entirety of y…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/23 07:28 PM
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You told me to "watch what they do not what they say". So one, I'm not allowed to watch women talk per your logic. Not watching them speak means I'm not paying attention to their words so I can't understand their words in the first place hence I'm ultimately not listening to them but even better if I can't "watch" what women say I can't see what they say online at all in any capacity. How can I read what women say online if I can't watch what they said? It all matters, what women say in real lif…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/23 12:21 PM
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There's never any mistakes at all if you ignore logic and evidence which seems to be the only thing you are good at doing. You can explain what you wish you would have only said a million times over. It doesn't change what you did say. A contradiction is still a contradiction. You can't tell me to not listen to women by saying "watch what they do not what they say" and then also say to listen to them online. You got caught in a contradiction and you're being a toddler about it. So your logic suc…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/23 12:03 PM
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Is not admitting when you're wrong a fallacy? Is making a mistake, getting called out for it and then saying you never made said mistake because you didn't actually mean said mistake because you have the hindsight I have given you by pointing it out in the first place a fallacy? I can literally do that too. Anything you think I did wrong I actually didn't do wrong and is right because I said so. You see how disingenuous and pathetic that is? It's like a five year old getting tagged and going "nu…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/23 09:23 AM
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No that's what you're saying now because you have the inability to admit you're wrong. "watch what they do not what they say" Means don't listen to women observe their actions. You then tell me to listen to women online. I'm following your logic dude it's not my fault it sucks. How do I listen to women when you originally told me not to?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/23 06:49 PM
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Nope. That's something entirely new you're saying now what we're talking about here is what you said originally: "watch what they do not what they say" That contradicts this: "Can't go out? Fine, you can google it. There are tons of subs and other forums where this question is asked in different variations: Do you accept drinks in bars/clubs etc? Do you go out with the goal to get free drinks? and more. I just googled it for fun and the number of results is huge." So once again explain how I can…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/23 06:41 PM
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Extremely pathetic.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/23 05:18 PM
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Your quoted remark of "watch what they do not what they say. And your other quoted remark of: "Can't go out? Fine, you can google it. There are tons of subs and other forums where this question is asked in different variations: Do you accept drinks in bars/clubs etc? Do you go out with the goal to get free drinks? and more. I just googled it for fun and the number of results is huge." These two directly contradict one another. Explain how I can listen to what women say online if you told me not …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/23 05:16 PM
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He won't lose the debate as long as he doesn't stop responding! Lmao.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/23 05:12 PM
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"Watch what they do not what they say" means don't listen to women. Then you kept ignoring me calling you out on that and told me to basically forget that (which I won't) and just listen to you. And what you were saying is you see women IRL blah blah take free drinks and attention from nobodies. That's fine but you already contradicted yourself earlier with "watch what they do not what they say" and then told me to listen to women online with what they say about accepting free drinks. It's over …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/23 05:10 PM
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So if you look at the brackets [[ ]] that's where the contradictory points are.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/23 04:59 PM
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The vast majority of women don't get any drinks offered. Out of the ones that do, not the vast majority declines. Again, you're trying ad hominem, it doesn't work and doesn't impress anyone, and my typos don't make my argument any weaker. And as I said, it's verifiable. You can go out and see it for yourself this very weekend. Whenever I offered a drink, it was never declined, when was the last time you did that? Clearly, it's been a while, since you don't deny you last went out 15 years ago or …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/23 04:58 PM
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[["Watch what they do not what they say.]] They keep matching with men they don't find attractive and whose messages they ignore online and accepting attention/gifts/drinks/giving their number and then ignoring IRL. It's not about liking attention from a certain type of men, it's about liking the amount of attention they get." 2 days ago just copied it from the comment chain
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/23 04:56 PM
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Lmao dude you even have other users reading this entire epilogue of nonsense your writing to call you out personally on your bullshit. That's how deluded you are that other people that have nothing to do with this debate have to stop and tell you you're crazy and don't know how logic works because you don't. It literally did happen, two days ago in fact if you scroll up the comment chain. You verbatim told me to not listen to women when I said that I have never heard a woman say they like being …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/23 04:41 PM
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I don't think I've ever seen a more pathetic debater. I work you into a corner by showing you that you put yourself into said corner by making up arbitrary life lessons like "don't listen to what women say watch what they do" and then you literally completely contradict that and tell me to listen to what women say in this one particular instance but then goal post shift that and say "no I meant listen to me who listens to women and that still contradicts my advice bro". You have no intellectual …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/23 03:02 PM
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Well I'm not brushed up on fallacies so I won't be able to care about any fallacies in your post yet it's still filled with illogical hypocrisy. This also has nothing to do with your go to everyone I disagree with is just being emotional facts over feelings bro. The facts here are you made a bad analogy that ultimately agrees that women don't want attention from average/ugly guys that proves my point yet you still say the opposite right now. It's like you think if you ignore it, it will go away …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/23 11:16 AM
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Oh I mean I don't care if it's a fallacy or not I don't need a list of fallacies to prove that you're wrong. This new strategy of shiny fallacies is cute though. Failed analogies that proved your own argument wrong, hypocritical talking points that again prove another one of your points wrong. First you tell me not to listen to what women say but then you tell me to listen to what women say online because it will prove women like free drinks from strangers. And that's the hypocrisy because obvio…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/23 11:01 PM
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Yeah they must not if we have obvious social cues most men pick up on like not thinking a woman would even want free drinks because of the implications they could be spiked with something since women historically fear for their safety in the presence of strange men. Especially ones they are not attracted to at all. Is hypocrisy a fallacy? Is it hypocritical true scotsman to say to not listen to women but then use what women say about accepting drinks from strangers online as proof they like drin…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/23 10:00 PM
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Men of all looks calibres (with functioning brains) know it's creepy to give a woman free drinks. Again for the safety concerns that they could easily be spiked with something. I'm accusing you of making word salads, grammatical errors from not actually reading what you're writing and making analogies that go against your original talking points. No the typos mean you don't actually give a shit about what you're writing and just want to get something out there as a response because what you writ…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/23 06:54 PM
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The vast majority don't get drink offers because most men with functioning brains know women are always wary of drinks from strangers. So that means a minority of women get drinks to begin with. Which then means a minority of that minority drinks those drinks so like I've been saying a super minority that doesn't matter and shouldn't be used as an appreciable indicator of female behavior. It's not an ad hominem to call a spade a spade. Typos actually make your argument weak because it shows your…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/23 05:07 PM
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It all comes down to likelihoods, the vast majority of women don't accept strange mens free drinks so it might as well be none. Again if you sit in your room all day imagining your 007 while coming up with analogies that prove the point of the person you disagree with of course women take free roofie drinks. All these women are completely imaginary and live in your head. You've so thoroughly been disproven on the original argument that the OPs idea was a decent idea worth trying because online d…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/23 04:43 PM
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Most women absolutely always refuse drinks from strangers life isn't a James Bond movie dude. Women aren't trying to get drugged and assaulted for some free drinks. I'm not telling you to go outside because you obviously don't want to and don't go outside to begin with or else you would know women don't accept free drinks from nobodies. If you're talking about the movies you watch in your room on the weekends where women accept drinks then sure, but here in reality women aren't trying to get dru…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/23 03:52 PM
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Most women always refuse drinks from strangers. No woman with two brain cells to rub together takes drinks from strangers. That's like woman 101, if you don't know that you definitely don't go outside. I don't doubt that a very very small percentage of the time women give men they don't find attractive the time of day but like I've been saying it happens so infrequently it doesn't even matter. What really matters is that average or ugly men's attention is worthless when out in public. Online it'…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/23 03:08 PM
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"what what they do not what they say they want" Ok first off that literally means nothing. But now are you trying to say women want free drinks from random strangers? I'm convinced you don't go outside at all. That's literally the dumbest thing I have ever heard on this sub. Random drinks from random guys that could just have random whatever date rape drugs he decides to spike it with. Come on dude you can't be serious?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/23 12:01 PM
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Bro they could walk around butt naked in public they don't want average or ugly men complementing them for it only attractive men it just so happens that average or ugly men exist in public settings too. The vast, vast majority of the time women do not accept attention from these men. So if something happens that rarely it pretty much does not matter. And for this topic we are talking about public attention from unwanted men boosting a woman's self esteem. So if that attention is rarely wanted/a…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/23 11:49 AM
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So should they wear potato sacks with traffic cones on their heads so average or ugly men stop bothering them? Like it's funny how you continue to prove my point that they don't want an average or ugly man's attention in the first place but you double down continuing to respond if that's somehow going to make you right when you yourself right now are admitting you're wrong. Unfortunately average/ugly men are going to be out in public alongside attractive men there is no avoiding them or predicti…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/23 11:37 AM
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They get attention they don't want which you just admitted before through a failed analogy. If they don't want the attention from average/ugly men out in public it means they don't need attention from average/ugly men out in public. So if they don't need it they don't value it. An if that attention has no value it won't bolster their perceived self value and make their standards unrealistic. Now attention online from these unwanted men is fine because it has no drawbacks like attention out in pu…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/23 11:17 AM
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That makes absolutely no sense women can't predict where attractive men will be. Again you're just confirming everything I've been saying already. You say a woman's way of dress is "money" they want an attractive man to "take" ("take" meaning give them attention) but instead the wrong man (average/ugly man) "takes the money" (gives her attention) instead and that's what she didn't want the whole time. Yeah no shit dude women don't want average or ugly men giving them attention by accident becaus…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/23 10:59 AM
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What is public attention? And how does that even constitute romantic attention? I mean we're all going to get public attention if we go outside. That's such a vague concept. I could walk down the sidewalk and eventually someone is going to have to acknowledge my existence or else we are bumping into one another. We both know the kind of attention women want from a specific type of man. We also both know women explicitly don't want this specific attention from average or ugly men. It's just for w…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/23 10:45 AM
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You just typed a word salad that made zero points whatsoever. What women "do" is dress attractively to better their chances at getting attractive men that's it, end of the story. The world outside the scope of attractive men could treat them better per some sort of halo effect but that has nothing to do with approaching them and letting them explicitly know they are attractive. Women don't want to find out in public if an average or ugly man finds them attractive this is just an undeniable fact …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/23 10:24 AM
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Women can't predict where they will find attractive men. They aren't situational future readers. They can only assume if they go out into the world looking good that attractive men in that world will notice them and be more likely to accept their advances. You can't make the assumption that because a woman is dressing attractively she is eagerly awaiting attention from men she is not explicitly attracted to herself. Like I know in my soul you would never tell an average or ugly man to just compl…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/23 09:14 AM
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Women will tell average/ugly men who hit on them in public to leave them alone, threaten to call the police, or film them and threaten to post it online and expose them for being a creep. Women dress attractively to make encounters with attractive men go their way. They can hope for attention from attractive men but attractive men don't need to approach so these women need to make themselves stand out, hence they dress up.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/23 03:11 AM
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I've watched them be visibly uncomfortable when men hit on them in public too. I've never seen a woman express happiness from what the majority of them deem harassment. Again it's online dating and the advent of the internet in general that has never so safely and conveniently packaged attention for women's benefit. The internet can make your average woman feel like a mini celebrity and that's why their standards have become so unrealistic.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/23 03:58 PM
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Attention from random not highly attractive men is a complete nuisance to nearly any woman. Have you ever interacted with a real woman? I have never in my 30 years on this planet heard a woman say she likes receiving any sort of romantic attention in public. Online dating and not just online dating but the internet/social media in general is the perfect attention harvesting ecosystem for women. It's fast, safe and convenient all things attention from men in the real world isn't.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/23 11:36 PM
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No it doesn't women don't want average and ugly men's attention if it's IRL because the majority of women are scared on an everyday basis of men harming them. The only time that fear subsides is when an attractive man is the one giving them attention, then its ok. But attractive men don't pursue they get pursued so really IRL interactions for women in this day and age is preferably attractive men only the rest leave them alone. That's also a lie if you look at tinder experiments on YouTube fat u…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/23 10:43 PM
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No the attention in public is actually valuable if the men are attractive (valuable) if they're average or ugly (not valuable) the women are ultimately just afraid if they ignore enough of these other average or ugly guys' advances will they get mad and attack them. Women use dating apps as a brand new futuristic way of getting attention in a light speed safe way at massive doses. They would have never in any other time period experienced before and considering relationships born from dating app…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/23 04:56 PM
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Women getting accosted in public by average or ugly men just makes them uncomfortable it doesn't add anything to their self perceived value at least not to the degree online attention does. Online all they see is matches from many men. Yeah they could be average or ugly but all the women get to see is attention without any obligation to interact with said attention or fear of repercussions for not acknowledging the attention, that's what makes women not like attention in real life in the first p…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/23 01:31 PM
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I don't love that but yeah it's up to them to fix it. It definitely doesn't help when women gaslight men and tell them it's not a problem and there's nothing they can do to fix it
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/23 01:09 PM
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If that was actually the case this whole subreddit wouldn't even exist. Those tinder experiments wouldn't exist. Like its funny how women think men just invent these ideas in a lab somewhere and spring them onto the world as if they are some sort of two dimensional misogynistic Disney villain. These are the real lived experiences of many many men. There's a trend here that online dating is brutal for men because it is, while being markedly less brutal for women.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/23 02:16 AM
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Woman has easy time getting dates is that supposed to be a surprise or something? Most average men can't even get dates because of how lopsided online dating is. Which again can be fixed if men stopped lowering their standards and acted more selective like the vast majority of women do because then their attention wouldn't be so worthless.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/23 12:46 AM
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Desperate people being men most often. Which is why they need to stop being desperate and chasing any vaguely average woman they can find.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/23 11:15 PM
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Women get unwanted attention IRL. Most women do not want to be bothered while out on the streets by average men. That is called catcalling at the least or harassment at worst. Now maybe if the small minority of Top men were hitting on them they might not mind but top men don't have to approach anyway IRL or online. The extra validation also makes all the difference. They play the top guy roulette fail and then the cavalcade of average losers gas them up in their down time giving them new validat…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/23 11:14 PM
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Yeah notice how you actually met people and got dates? Average men don't even get past the first hello half the time and the other half of the time the woman usually lets the conversation die. I read/hear about situations like this all the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/23 11:04 PM
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I don't think you're getting what I'm saying. These women aren't interested in most of these men because they are a dime a dozen so obviously that factors heavily on attraction. Scarce things are usually sought after. If it was as simple as just meet an average looking woman this sub literally wouldn't exist. And a big part of the reason why it's hard to meet average women is because they are not as attracted to average men again because more average men chase average women then the reverse whic…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/23 07:00 PM
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First off men's sexual attraction doesn't operate entirely off the physical appearance of a woman. Secondly the whole point of this is it's a shift in an actual direction of men not perpetuating the problem of giving women so much attention it makes them over-value themselves. Women don't have to use the app that could very well be a consequence. Ultimately I don't know but like I said it's a good idea worth trying like I've been saying this whole time. A try doesn't have to be a guarantee to be…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/23 06:52 PM
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It absolutely can be a byproduct of how society treats them. A man could want a supermodel woman while he himself isn't a supermodel and has also been given zero indication he's a desirable man because no woman let alone very attractive ones give this guy the time of day. 9/10 times this man is going to come back down to reality and just find a looksmatched partner when the other option is being completely alone forever. Women don't understand this male reality because they don't live it but if …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/23 05:52 PM
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No women don't just develop high standards in a vacuum. We all look to see how society treats us in our observable realities to gauge how desirable we are. If we get a lot of attention common sense would dictate we are highly desirable hence now we have leverage to be picky because there are so many options available to us. Women don't even know what it's like to not exist without the constant bombardment of male attention/validation any more. It has become ingrained in the tapestry of our socie…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/23 05:42 PM
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I mean that is the point to disincentivize behavior that isn't good. Men simping isn't good it's a waste of time, energy and resources. Average women pursuing men out of their leagues isn't good either for the same reasons because these men will eventually leave them again wasting their time, energy and resources.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/23 05:37 PM
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But women only find such a small minority of men attractive because they have a large amount of options. People in general not just men become less picky when they have less options. So if you take away women's options through men no longer being able to constantly proposition/match with them you'll then make them less picky which considering men on average aren't nearly as picky as women would even out the dating market. I also never said it was a guarantee to work but it sounds good to me on p…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/23 05:28 PM
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Because women won't be getting excess artificial attention that makes them rate themselves higher in value than they actually are and then those women might start giving more average men a chance because their self perceptions have been brought down to reality. This is also men's faults by the way in the sense that they have propagated this situation because of a lack of self control. I like the idea of no online dating at all but the internet is such a powerful tool for connectivity it's going …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/23 05:13 PM
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Because modern men have fallen into this numbers game mindset of mass swiping. Basically most men have lost genuine selectivity when it comes to finding a partner and I feel like any step in any direction that makes men stop being so unselective as a whole or at least a large group is an experiment at least worth having because males indiscriminately swiping on women isn't they answer either and you can't just tell your average desperate lonely man to have self control. I mean that's also been t…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/23 04:45 PM
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Men have to employ a numbers game mindset because dating is so absolutely rigged for them. They usually start out selective, see that is going absolutely nowhere and then realize mass swiping is the only realistic way to get consistent matches they can work with and even then it still doesn't pan out well. Also there are scammers everywhere that doesn't mean that even half of these 500 plus matches I've seen sub 5 women get in these experiments are scammers. Also all the men you see talking to t…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/23 04:15 PM
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I would actually like to see this play out before making any concrete stances. It sounds like a good idea.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/23 03:52 PM
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Ok but your anecdotal experience isn't the norm. You could make a sub 5 fake woman profile and the same thing will happen where the matches flood in. Conversely you could make a sub 5 male profile and next to no matches would be had. Your roommate is also most likely purposefully matching with older gen x women who are unsurprisingly going to be way less picky than younger millennials or gen z women because gen x women grew up in a world before the normalcy of online dating/social media and also…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/23 03:42 PM
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Firstly these men only indiscriminately swipe because they have been gaslit into believing they are not allowed to have actual standards so they go with a numbers game approach as opposed to being selective which is only a strategy largely women can employ successfully anyway. But secondly just because these swipes were indiscriminate doesn't mean they weren't also purposeful. Once these men see these sub 5 matches they get they still interact with them. They flirt, ask for sex/dates. Which if y…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/23 04:18 AM
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I think everyone not just men should go to the gym because working out is insanely good for your health. Your bones need the physical stress to get and stay strong, your cardiovascular system also loves exercise. This attitude of having to go to the gym as some sort of punishment or sign a person is like a hustler Uber adult or something is so cringe. Like do people pat themselves on the back for brushing their teeth or wiping their ass? I wish more fully grown adults would just normalize doing …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/23 02:01 AM
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If you watch any tinder experiments on YouTube you can clearly see the problem where if you make a fat obviously sub 5 woman she is inundated with matches from men way above her league. Considering online dating accounts for half of all relationships now that is a massive discrepancy in the dating market. And before you say sex isn't a relationship a lot of modern relationships start from a casual sex basis but also men and women would never seriously date a woman/man they also wouldn't have sex…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/23 01:55 AM
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Women tell men basically all the time that if they can't live up to ridiculously high standards it's their problem and they need to fix it. But the reverse almost never happens because men require very little from women. In fact not fat and a decent person is usually sufficient. The problem arises when men's standards are so low that top quality men adopt said standards as well and give chances to women way below there leagues (again the reverse almost never happens) and then these womens self p…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/23 12:41 AM
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Yeah it's really pathetic. If the majority of guys here had functional meaningful relationships with women they wouldn't even be here yet women can be married and still come here to dunk on frustrated men.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/23 07:34 PM
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A lot of women in relationships come here to talk down to single men actually struggling with finding love and romance instead of just enjoying their relationships/marriages and moving on with their lives.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/23 07:17 PM
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It does because society doesn't tell women to accept their shitty situations with men or to accept unfairness from men while with men they are told that they have to accept unfairness from women so if that's the case they just shouldn't care if their actions are interpreted as unfair by women because women don't care about what's unfair for men.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/23 07:14 PM
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And they also tell men their crap and that they have to change but again dating already functions on an unfair paradigm that doesn't benefit men and women don't care so by that logic men shouldn't care about women's concerns either.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/23 02:18 PM
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Yeah I remember the whole "two tits a hole and a heart beat" mantra growing up too and it just never made any sense to me. Like I feel like dudes that operate under that mindset are the same kinda guys that would fuck goats in Iraq if they were on a really long military tour and had no access to actual women. Like guys really think it's a flex to want to fuck any women capable of breathing oxygen and it's just not it's just pure savagery and patheticness at it's absolute core. You also have to w…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/23 06:12 AM
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Yeah that's what I feel with my wife. I mean I'm not into feet or armpits but her body and my body are so in tuned with one another. Like she knows exactly what gets me going and how to touch me and vice versa. I feel like generally you can only get that kind of sex by really getting to know and trust someone which of course can't be accomplished by fucking landwhales off tinder.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/23 05:54 AM
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I don't doubt sexual assault could cause some men to act that way but I think most men are conditioned to be hypersexual by their peers and also the male figures in their lives that they look up to. I noticed that a lot growing up that there was this atmosphere of encouragement for males to pursue sex unrestrained and if you acted any different from that you were considered gay and chastised for it. It's crazy because I look at sex the exact same way you do. I remember being in highschool and a …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/23 05:17 AM
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It's crazy when you see these tinder experiments on YouTube and these genuinely attractive guys get caught in 4k dumpster diving all for an easy lay not realizing or even giving a shit that they are destroying the dating economy.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/23 04:06 AM
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I partially agree with that because in a very real sense it's up to men to change the dating dynamics that are being experienced today. If men didn't have such a propensity for settling for subpar women the net value of women wouldn't so out value the net value of men. So yes it's still unfair but men just need to learn how to play the same game.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/23 03:22 AM
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Ok cool so if unfairness to men can exist for arbitrary reasons unfairness to women can exist for arbitrary reasons and they can't complain about it anymore and men shouldn't listen to them.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/23 02:09 AM
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So what you're actually saying is women can have any standard they want no matter how unrealistic it is and that's fine even though men find that unfair. Meanwhile men aren't allowed to have unrealistic standards or else they are labeled misogynists and must do some self introspection and fix the problem i.e. accept dating women with flaws because that benefits women and lowers the overall standards threshold they have to maintain to procure a partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/23 12:40 AM
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You would never give that advice to a woman. I love the tone here for men that amounts to "your life shitty? Welp it is what it is gotta accept the cards you're dealt." Meanwhile women complain about how men do all these bad things and cue the genuine dialog on how men have to fix it with zero gaslighting or platitudes that equal out to learn to enjoy a shitty life. By that logic these women should just accept men are crap and it is what it is but we both know women are never fed that line like …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/23 12:21 AM
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I was going to say that deadbedrooms caused by men are usually linked to the over consumption of porn but that just kind of round robbins to your original point since a man who's sexually attracted to and satisfied with his partner just wouldn't over consume porn to a dead bedroom causing degree in the first place. So yes I agree with you. I will also add that sex and libidos aren't as simple as boobies make pp hard. A lot of men take horrible care of themselves and annihilate their sex drives a…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/23 12:15 AM
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That's so true being a provider isn't an issue for most men it's having to be a provider just to get the things other guys got for next to zero effort. It's like a woman accepting an impromptu proposal at McDonald's knowing full well her boyfriends ex was flown to Italy all expenses paid and proposed to Infront of the Eifel tower after a luxurious five course meal.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/23 07:45 PM
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A lot of society's problems revolve around sex. There's a reason why sex and evil share a lot of similarities when it's referenced in religion.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/23 07:01 PM
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Women only have spontaneous desire for top tier men and there are so few top tier men that the majority of the time women can only display responsive desire but in reality if women were actually attracted to a diverse range of men like men are to women they would have this illusive spontaneous desire as well
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/23 06:55 PM
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"Traditions" that are contradictory to Jesus' teachings are bad traditions. No where in The Bible does Jesus say to prioritize money or status or to judge others negatively by the way they look etc etc. I can cherry pick fair weather Christian beliefs too so I have an interpretation of The Bible that fits my world view but in all actuality Jesus' teachings weren't subjective and a real Christian woman would not concern herself with nearly any of the things you mentioned. Also you say above that …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/23 05:04 PM
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Being "Traditional" is a concept that supersedes Christianity because Christianity from its inception was following and emulating Jesus. The majority of things you said Traditional Christian women prioritize is at odds with Jesus' teachings hence a woman of actual faith wouldn't act the way you're describing irregardless of a completely subjective Traditional status. Fortunately Christianity isn't subjective as Christians have a defacto rule book (The Bible) telling them how to act which again i…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/23 04:27 PM
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First of all dating isn't being in a relationship with someone so you can't extrapolate anything off dates not materializing into anything. Also I'm at the point now where I don't even think women even know what an "average" man looks like which is evidenced by online dating data that shows that women only find a small subset of men actually attractive. So they probably consider men who aren't there complete ideal 100%, average which of course isn't average at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/23 02:30 PM
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Men with good options cheat, even having average women willing to do whatever you want sexually is good options. No woman can beat the novelty of new attractive/average women. That's why porn is so popular among men. And with that in mind a tall handsome man who constantly has women hitting on him is going to slip sooner rather than later. An average guy with no good options would actually appreciate an average gf and have an actual reason aside from morals to stay faithful because the consequen…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/23 02:25 PM
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When an average woman in a good functional relationship trades up just because she can it's monkey branching, especially considering if she was going to trade up it would be for a man out of her league who's going to do the exact same thing to her. I wouldn't expect a relationship with a hot woman and an average man to work either but we both know those relationships can't even happen an appreciable amount of time anyway because hot women have no reason or desire to be with average men in the fi…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/23 02:20 PM
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I have a wife who I've been with for almost a decade. You can be a realist and still have healthy relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/23 05:55 AM
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I mean you can say whatever you want but objective reality is going to play out the way it always predictably plays out. Men who have women constantly approaching them are going to have problems with fidelity while men who don't have way less incentive to cheat. The guy with no good options is losing guaranteed long term intimacy for lame sex with an ugly woman while the guy with good options is not only gaining novel intimacy with a new attractive woman but he's already guaranteed intimacy with…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/23 05:45 AM
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I should clarify with "good options" because technically all men have options if they have next to zero physical standards. But most men will not jeopardize a successful relationship by cheating with an ugly woman. An equally hot or hotter woman on the other hand and now the odds increase. And tall handsome men are constantly accosted by novel attractive women so there's plenty of incentive to cheat comparitively to an average man.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/23 05:31 AM
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Men with options are going to cheat plain and simple. It's not a surprise that a handsome, tall, young man with a functioning libido rotates women. What is a surprise is that women still act surprised when this kind of thing happens. If they really want a relationship that bad they aren't going to find it with tall handsome men. There are plenty of average guys that would lick the rusty side of a burger king dumpster for a long term gf. And to make it even simpler for women, if the particular gu…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/23 04:41 AM
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Don't get married unless the woman displays next to zero red flags. Marriage is a huge investment for men and shouldn't be taken lightly. Things like high N counts, superficiality, combativeness, expecting you to be her sole provider are just a few common red flags to watch out for but there are more. Not to mention things that are red flags to you personally don't ignore those either and trust your gut instinct, don't be afraid of being single because it's better than being with a low quality w…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/23 04:32 AM
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I think the funniest part will be when these women have genetically or mentally subpar children and are stuck raising basket case kids and shelling out loads on therapy and medications. The standards for modern men are already so high and rising that the quality of life relationship wise their male kids will have will be so piss poor it will drive them insane.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/23 04:23 AM
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"Traditional" and "Christian" are two separate things but you chose to originally lump them together and make a weaker original argument. Christian anyone wouldn't prioritize most things you say Christian traditional women do. I was also never aware there was a universal agreed upon way of how a traditional woman acts. Christianity on the other hand seems pretty universal as there's a whole book telling people how and what they should do (which is basically just do what Jesus would do).
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/23 09:53 PM
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The Bible is pretty cut and dry about followers of Jesus learning by his examples. Jesus lived a modest charitable life where his only real concerns were helping others. The Bible wants us to be like Jesus. You can't be a religious traditional woman if you're not trying to live your life like Jesus did because after all if you're not going to actually practice Jesus' teachings why even bother saying you listen to them by claiming a Christian faith? So with that being said an actual Christian tra…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/23 09:28 PM
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Women have a sisterhood built into their gender group. So a woman like this will give a halo effect to her other fellow sisters and assume they all are as attractive as she is when in reality ugly/average women orbiting around pretty women has been a dynamic as old as time. Because women don't compete with other women but instead build each other up you now have attractive women who genuinely believe a Becky is her equal when she obviously is not. Men on the other hand being in actual competitio…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/23 08:32 PM
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To me it sounds like you're describing a traditional modern woman hybrid not a "traditional" woman in every traditional sense. Especially since the traditional nature of said woman is coming from religious values. All the traditional Christians I know espouse zero emphasis on things not in relation to God first and then their church. What you're talking about mainly revolves around things that benefit the self or the few loved ones close to the self. The Christians I know don't care about money …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/23 07:17 PM
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No I said preteens or teens are looking for love or sex or companionship. Obviously preteens are just looking for love and compassion or even just love or even just companionship. You're the one jumping to the idea of preteens wanting sex when the option for just love or companionship is there. Like why couldn't you assume they just want love and companionship? Which is obviously all they are capable of wanting.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/23 11:13 PM
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They are looking for love and companionship though I never singled them out saying they were looking for sex. You're the one that instantly jumped to that conclusion. I assumed you'd have the common sense to know that teenagers have sex with other teenagers but you instantly jump to preteens being sexual like no one is saying that but you.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/23 11:03 PM
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Bro what are you talking about? Uhm plenty of parents think of grandkids. Yes but only in the last two decades or so have we had the internet and it has thoroughly destroyed our older, healthier cultural norms of dating and interacting with one another for sex, love and relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/23 11:00 PM
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Are you saying teens don't have sex with other teens? Do you live under a rock. I also love the ad hominem at the end in place of an actual argument. Like literally almost everyone at my highschool talked about sex, relationships and love all the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/23 10:56 PM
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You can't possibly see or know every reason someone goes to the ER. I'm just saying normally people who have extreme mental breakdowns end up hospitalized/institutionalized.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/23 10:52 PM
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Yes but when your mentally deranged son is stuck living with you because society shattered his confidence you'll be taking care of yourself and your mentally compromised adult son. I mean some parents want grandkids so it's definitely something to consider. Yes but we can use trends to predict the future and the way things are trending now with the dating market for average or ugly men doesn't make the future for men look good.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/23 10:51 PM
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So are attractive women not entitled to equally attractive men or should they just marry/have sex with average or ugly men? You're being facetious By your logic a super model should date me no problem. The issue is average men can't even get average women which they should be entitled to the same way no one would expect a hot woman to have to date or marry or bang an average or ugly guy. Looks matching is just fairness and has nothing to do with entitlement.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/23 10:48 PM
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Normal BMI bodied men with normal BMI bodied women is a looks match but most women are not attracted to their equal physically. No where did I say anything about average men dating above average women you are literally saying things you want to hear.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/23 10:41 PM
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I hope their child either isn't a male or comes out flawless. Fingers crossed.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/23 10:39 PM
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Yes and your son won't be entitled to love, sex or companionship either and when he gets none of those things and goes crazy as a result you will be entitled to paying out financially to repair his damaged mental health.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/23 10:38 PM
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This has nothing to do with me. The post is about future sons living in an even more brutal dating market in the future.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/23 10:37 PM
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I'm saying dating is brutal for average men now and is only going to get more brutal so logically these women's own sons will have to live in that future dating world so it's pragmatic to care about that issue then since it will eventually effect them if they have average or below average sons. Which considering that average men are a majority in the population it's a very likely prospect to have average sons.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/23 10:35 PM
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Then shouldn't the more attractive women not care about uglier men wanting them as long as he has a good personality and dates those men based off of that? It goes both ways.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/23 10:30 PM
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Ladies listen up, start caring about the mental health crisis' the current dating market is creating for men because eventually you will have sons that will have to live and grow up in said dating market. There fixed it for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/23 10:28 PM
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Well the person above me is saying men are basically only entitled to women uglier than them.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/23 10:26 PM
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It's funny how you purposefully are misconstruing a very human issue of wanting love, sex and companionship into such a crude dude bro idea of males not getting pussy equals society collapses. The male suicide rate is sky high and I wouldn't doubt the current state of the dating market is playing a huge role. The solution is for society to actually have a culture that isn't so thoroughly poisoned by superficiality. That actually rewards people for character and not the way they look. A society t…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/23 10:25 PM
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Most minors are obsessed with dating it's perfectly healthy normal and natural. Pills have nothing to do with the natural biological impulses of preteens and teenagers for love, sex and companionship. Adults are responsible for the mental health of their kids and when our ever growing superficial society makes them feel so worthless they go insane it will be the parent that foots the bill for therapy appointments, ER visits, and medications to deal with all the trauma they have experienced.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/23 10:20 PM
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Are you saying that a normal BMI bodied man is not equally deserving of a normal BMI bodied woman? Does that mean he has to settle for less than his looks match which is completely unreasonable? Food is a need and so is sex, love and companionship.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/23 10:15 PM
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That doesn't absolve a parent from having to spend lots of money on the ER visits for a mentally unwell child that has had their sanity destroyed by the superficiality of a future dating market. Men don't deserve anything. I'm just saying it's important for women to realize that a society that is very unequal in regards to dating, sex and relationships to men right now and is only getting worse will definitely effect them indirectly through their sons. So maybe it's actually pragmatic to care ab…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/23 10:05 PM
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Lmao most men want their looks match. Literally the vast vast majority of normal BMI bodied men find normal BMI bodied women attractive the reverse is not true. Companionship, love and sex is a basic human need while being a doctor is a want. Any human devoid of love, sex or companionship will have a severe mental health crisis a person who fails at being a doctor will move on to something else just as fulfilling. A normal human can't move on from having no love, sex or companionship. Yeah and t…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/23 10:00 PM
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You act like two attractive parents always equals an attractive child. And also what was once considered two attractive parents now could very well in the future be considered two average parents if society's superficiality goes unchecked. So their child by proxy could be average by new standards and presto you have an expensive mental health crisis on your hands. Also the rise in mental health disorders your kid could have is another nail in the sanity coffin. Have a kid with any perceived flaw…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/23 09:53 PM
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But you can't raise the outside world to be kind to your sons. You can't raise someone else's daughter to date or love your sons. And that's the problem you can raise your sons however you want but in an ever superficialized world it's going to undo all your hard work and make your childs mental health go down the drain. Cue all the money, time and effort you'll be spending to fix the damage the world will do to your kids.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/23 09:48 PM
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Yeah but that's why I'm referring to the future. Even now you should see what looks standards kids get subjected to by things like TikTok, Instagram and even online dating when that goes even more mainstream than it already is. You act like pre teens and teenagers don't want love and companionship or like they are not aware of if they are ugly or handsome or not. Therapy is very expensive, trips to the ER because of mental breakdowns are very expensive. How can a parent retire if all their money…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/23 09:42 PM
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Being a grammar Nazi is so unbelievably low effort, like give a real response to the post
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/23 09:37 PM
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What does any of what you wrote have to do with mother's having genetically inferior kids that are going to grow up to be absolute basket cases because our society has gone so unchecked on its obsession with looks and all things superficial?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/23 09:35 PM
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While I definitely agree with a lot of what you're saying women can't just force their sons to be cucks. Most males will go clinically insane before living a life of wage cuckoldry with no chance of sex, partnerships, or love. And obviously parents must take care of their kids by law so that is going to be a lot of money spent on their childs ever spiralling mental health and like I said most likely these males will just be stuck at home draining their parents resources into their old age.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/23 09:33 PM
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I think what the guy with the house analogy is getting at is a woman's time is valuable while a man's isn't. Like imagine the reverse. "If a woman talks to a man in public to get his number she better have a good reason or I'll dislike her 😡", sounds like something a guy from Iran would say.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/23 08:53 PM
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Lmao that's such a crock of horse shit. Your acting like mental abuse doesn't seriously mess people up too. Just because women have a larger propensity to experience physical violence because they are smaller than men doesn't excuse male trauma getting completely discounted/discarded in the public consciousness like it always does. You read what I wrote? It's not like both men and women's trauma is equally acknowledged. Male trauma isn't considered at all. There should be equality in dating in t…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/23 08:47 PM
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The problem is that for whatever reason the trauma women received from bad relationships is actually counted for something while society by and large doesn't care if men had bad experiences from women. Like women can carry the pain/hurt and use it as justification for the next guy she is dating to try harder while if a guy who had a bad experience with an ex girlfriend tries to do that to the next women he will just get dropped instantly. Men have to let trauma from past relationships wash off t…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/23 06:19 PM
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If we have sex 5 to 6 times a week in which she initiates the majority of it it's pretty safe to assume she has raw sexual attraction to me. Like my wife has a higher libido than me. She's constantly groping me or sticking her butt out at me/teasing me. She also caresses and massages me randomly through out the day. I think she's just high libido in general but sexual attraction isn't an issue.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/23 11:16 PM
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It's not that she made me wait, she applied the same standards to me before I got sex as the other two guys. We both dated with the intention of a relationship and once we got comfortable with one another and had been exclusive for a couple months we had sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/23 08:54 PM
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I don't think there needs to be logic as some sort of justification for why a person has a sexual standard. A person being the arbiter of their body and what they do with it and who they give it to is pretty much a case closed. Like I could understand if I was telling women they had to stop doing x behavior because men don't like it but I'm not. I have no control over what a woman does. But what I do have is control over what I do and what I feel is right. And men seem to not understand this con…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/23 10:15 PM
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If women not needing relationships or men benefits them in the long run with actually getting them more men, logically men doing the same thing will have the same result. People want what they can't have. I don't think women even comprehend the idea of men even having standards because society is so thoroughly conditioning men to take whatever they can get. So I can see why men having a standard you don't like is such a wild concept to you. But ultimately men having sexual standards that benefit…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/23 09:06 PM
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Well in the eyes of the women you slept with is having a sexual standard for sexual equality insecurity? Because if you told me those women don't think sexual standards for sexual equality is insecurity I totally agree then and they're not low quality because only low quality people insult/judge/criticize sexual standards. It's not negative to have sexual standards. Men have autonomy over their own bodies and their sex and who, what, where, when and why they give it to a woman and your over here…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/23 08:17 PM
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It's not an incentive it's a sexual standard/preference. Women can take it or leave it I'm just telling men they're better off not settling for sexual inequality.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/23 07:34 PM
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You said you asked those women why they liked you, what was the difference between you and other men and they said they were a laundry list of bad traits and then you go on in your response to insinuate that the men with the sexual standards I'm describing fall within the category of these bad men these women avoided. So naturally the assumption is these women that you interacted with view such sexual standards as insecure this, that and the other thing. And I'm sure those women in all actuality…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/23 07:29 PM
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Low quality people in general shame others for their sexual preferences. You said that was a common theme among the women you had sex with and dated so that makes them low quality. You can't assume anything about my wife because I haven't given you any information on her thoughts and ideas while you have done the opposite for the women you interact with. You're the one who made the post asking why men are obsessed with lopsided sexual treatment. I told you men have sexual standards that entail t…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/23 07:16 PM
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It's not a punishment just misalignment in sexual values/standards. That's something that happens across dating in general all the time. Not every guy is going jive sexually with you. Men are also wary as men on what is in their best interests. Men wanting equal sexual treatment is in their best interests so they will pursue that.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/23 06:43 PM
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Having sexual values/standards/morals isn't insecurity. It's pure ignorance to invalidate someone's sexual preferences and act as if men owe women their bodies, their sex on their terms. Life literally does not work that way and it sucks you slept with so many low quality women who don't care about men's wants or needs or feel the need to trivialize them but I'm so glad I didn't do that. Sometimes I wonder why I'm married and in a healthy almost decade long relationship and then I meet guys like…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/23 06:35 PM
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You literally said yourself men are obsessed with this sexual mistreatment. Like you know this is a big issue among men, so much so you just blanketly said men in your posts title. Not a small subset of men not a minority you said men because even in your own brain you know deep down men in general don't like unfair sexual dichotomy, sexual mistreatment. That's a valid reason to avoid dating someone. Your solution to that issue is to gaslight them with the threat of being alone instead of tellin…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/23 05:32 PM
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Settling is never the answer. I'm also speaking on behalf of average men which you wouldn't understand because you're not average. You acknowledged men don't like the sexual mistreatment between different men and no one should tolerate a relationship or sexual dynamic they don't like, that's unhealthy.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/23 05:04 PM
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I don't think so. I think men have a form of societal relationship Stockholm Syndrome where they are so thoroughly captive by the whims of women they start sympathizing with their captors. The solution in that scenario is to leave the captor and heal on your own. More men are waking up to that realization. I mean you even said in your posts title "why do so many men obsess over that some men get women more easily than them". A lot of men are realizing this is unfair and want it to stop and you a…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/23 04:36 PM
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She never had casual sex and only had sex with two different boyfriends after they formed a loving connection several months down the line with her. Unfortunately those other courtships didn't work out because they were just in different places in life and couldn't give one another the proper time.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/23 03:58 PM
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So essentially because reasons. There is no legitimate moral or ethical reason for men to contort to women's demands. Its essentially because it is the way it is. So if men are destined to cater to women for no justifiable reason they shouldn't do it. That's an unfair dynamic that doesn't benefit them and being alone is a better deal than being held hostage under the threat of loneliness.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/23 03:14 PM
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But why should these men simp for women? And why shouldn't the reverse happen? What have women done to earn being simped for?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/23 03:07 PM
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That's awesome men are better off alone than simping for women.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/23 02:58 PM
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I mean I'd rather have the dating market implode on itself because women refused to date average men because women don't want to stop Chad chasing than watching Average guys simp, twist and contort themselves to meet women's needs because reasons.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/23 02:41 PM
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Chads are a minority by virtue of being Chads. Chads as they stand now are exclusively attractive men. Attractive men make up a small portion of the population, most men are average looking. So if Chads ever became a majority it would be because average men raised their collective value through higher standards and became equal to Chads that way. Average men aren't magically just going to become as physically attractive as Chad. And if men don't accept Chads sloppy seconds women will stop treati…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/23 01:36 PM
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You're telling me to accept the situations where life is unfair. Accepting the situation means conforming to the situation. Women will always treat certain guys better sexually? That's unfair? Life unfair? So what's the solution there? I have to accept it right? So if my proposition of men not dating women who treat them different sexually is unfair the solution by that logic is for society to also accept it. And that acceptance will eventually lead to conformity. You're only one Chad. Chads are…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/23 01:13 PM
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You saying women should date you doesn't solve the problem for average men but it also doesn't rectify the logical knot you inadvertently put yourself in by saying life is unfair. You think that my way of treating women is unfair, but then you also say life is unfair so by your own logic my views are completely permissible so is you have no reason to argue with me over these issues because life is expected to be this way in your opinion because my views are supposedly unfair. You're not a 6/10 y…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/23 12:52 PM
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Is that an objective no or their trash because they treated me terribly irrespective of their looks money or status?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/23 12:15 PM
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It's not that it's not allowed you obviously believe it's unfair but you also said life is unfair so by that logic it makes sense that women should just accept men acting the way I think they should act because "life is unfair". You're also definitely way underselling your looks most men can't get 100+ lays and normal relationships. A lot of average guys have all those personality traits and are still alone. You believe in behavioral determinism but a lot of the time sexual success with women co…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/23 11:55 AM
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It's funny how you say life can be cruel or unfair and you think men not wanting to be with women who undervalue them sexually is supposedly unfair to you so where's the problem? It's as simple as life is unfair right? End of story, unfair things happen so it makes perfect sense these men are doing supposedly unfair things to women. Or is it only ok for life to be unfair when it happens to people who aren't you/dont fit your world view? Most men could never bang 100+ women no matter how many tim…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/23 10:40 AM
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Men not dating women who offer them worse treatment sexually than other men is sexist? I mean you can bend over backwards for women all you want. Sex with women isn't worth compromising your values or dignity. Like it or not a lot of men place stock in the sexual attraction their partners have for them if they notice a discrepancy there where another dude received better sexual treatment they are going to feel less sexually desirable in comparison. But your solution is to just gaslight them and …
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/23 10:20 AM
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I don't have to get all men to agree with me when society is creating men looking for answers because the things they are doing in the dating scene aren't working. If catering to women actually worked (which most men already do) red pill wouldn't exist, MGTOW wouldn't exist. But they do because there is more to getting women and keeping women then just bending over backwards for them because reasons. Men are better off prioritizing their needs first like women already do. I mean women are the su…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/23 09:42 AM
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A large majority will not right now. But MGTOW keeps growing, red pill keeps growing. The way our society is functioning now is what's fueling that growth. These men are left sexually and romantically frustrated and are looking for answers and I'll be one of the men that gives them answers.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/23 09:32 AM
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I'm only actually sexually attracted to women who would want to have sex with me. Celebrities don't have sex with average Joe's so it's a cringe one sided sexual attraction where I'm imagining something that isn't real and will never happen. That isn't sexually stimulating or appealing. That's just like a me thing though I know most men don't think this way.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/23 09:29 AM
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No movement for societal change started with everyone agreeing at the same time. It just starts with a lot of the same people with the same ideas speaking up for themselves. A lot of men are already rejecting modern hook up culture developing back bones and having standards. Usually they just call themselves MGTOW but a better way is just selecting women and enabling women who meet your values and ignoring the ones that don't. MGTOW write being with women off entirely which isn't the solution.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/23 09:25 AM
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Are you me, do you know what I like? How can you tell someone what they like for them?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/23 09:15 AM
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It's not a matter of agreement I'm just going to keep telling men to look out for themselves and have standards.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/23 09:07 AM
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Were they very successful, above average in looks and sexual skill?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/23 09:06 AM
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No I just don't like women with make up I never have
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/23 09:05 AM
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Well what kind of men were you pursuing?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/23 04:03 AM
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I mean this post is also about what men want not women. Last time I checked women think its hot when a man has been sexually desirable to other women. So I don't see how you having lots of women want to fuck you and have fucked you negatively impact a woman's view of you.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/23 03:03 AM
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Are you in your 20s? Because getting sexual validation from women is a very big hurdle for a lot of men to cross if you get that a lot your way ahead of the game. It's the men that get no relationships or sex that have something to worry about.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/23 02:47 AM
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Maybe they're intimidated by your looks so they don't want to risk a relationship with you? Sounds like a good problem to have.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/23 02:22 AM
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Sounds like you're Chad my friend, enjoy because this advice is for average men.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/23 02:17 AM
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The internet is destroying society.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/23 01:33 AM
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The offense comes from uneven sexual treatment. You already know that's the issue. If women care so much about relationships they should prioritize them and only give out sex once a man proves his value to her. If she gave sex out flippantly to one man she shouldn't expect the next man to not logically feel the need to put in low effort to get sex from her if other men got it so easily before hand. Wild concept that things that have actual value and are worth earning are not given away easily.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/23 01:09 AM
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Says the guy who doesn't know the definition of promiscuous and let's other men fuck his woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/23 10:43 PM
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I hate when my wife wears makeup I can tell the difference and so can most men.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/23 10:06 PM
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No it wouldn't take all men. Every fire starts with a spark. I'm not the only man that thinks this way and when more men wake up they will stop enabling women and value themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/23 10:05 PM
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I can choose to not date women who aren't treating me sexually the same way they treated other men sexually. This strategy is why I'm married and have been in a successful relationship for almost a decade. I give other men this advice too. They shouldn't settle for being sexual chumps.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/23 10:04 PM
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I think it's a massive contributor and needs to stop. You're just saying it's impossible because you like the current world we live in where men simp to women and constantly cater to their needs. Well I don't and other men shouldn't either.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/23 09:33 PM
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But then doing that is just going to end up making them more lonely. If simping actually worked there wouldn't be an epidemic of male loneliness but there is so obviously simping, having low standards and over validating women isn't the answer. You're basically saying just because something is hard to do is not a realistic solution.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/23 08:59 PM
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Yep that's the price to pay for societal change. Men being temporarily alone to work on themselves, learn to love and value themselves in exchange for a more fair and lucrative dating market I mean hey there lonely anyway what's more loneliness going to do? You can only hit your head against a brick wall for so long before conceding your never going to penetrate said wall and you should stop doing that and do something different.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/23 08:14 PM
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Did you not read what I wrote? Men have to start having these demands. Their lack of demands is why dating for men is so unbelievably hard in the first place. Most men validate women way too frequently and way too easily which over inflates their actual value. If men had standards and didn't validate or sleep with women below their leagues just because of horniness these women wouldn't go on to think they are too good for most men and have standards way too unrealistically high. Our entire socie…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/23 07:39 PM
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The point being all men want that same raw sexual attraction from women. No man should settle for less. You can call it whatever you want but I didn't settle for runner up sexually and neither should any other man. Why do you care if men have standards surrounding sex and their sexual appeal? It's their relationships, their bodies, their sex lives. If you don't like it find some chump to jump through hoops to get sex from you. Plenty of loser men are already more than ready to do that.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/23 07:04 PM
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Men have a small list of partners because their standards are so low. They artificially inflate women's value so women themselves have higher unrealistic standards for men. The only solution to that is for men to have high standards as well. Like I said that will ground women's expectations when they aren't getting so much attention from thirsty losers.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/23 06:57 PM
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You wouldn't feel entitled but in all honesty it would bother you it would bother any honest person if that happened to them. You also act like men getting sex eventually nullifies the extra effort they had to put in to get it. Do you think men like courting women? Do you think men think it's fun? No guy likes putting in tons of effort to get sex a guy got for free. Like you keep trying to separate sex and relationships but guys don't just court women to continue courting women they court women …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/23 05:42 PM
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Male liberation is raising their standards and to stop simping. It's literally the only valid solution to male loneliness. Women have more value than men because men over inflate women's value through simping and desperation. If men had standards they wouldn't go crazy over women all the time and things would actually even out because the sexes would then value one another equally. This whole conversation we have had also has nothing to do with women's liberation. You keep shoehorning that in wh…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/23 05:23 PM
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Men have literally zero standards in 2023 do you live under a rock? Most men will fuck, date, or marry any woman that will give him the time of day. If men didn't simp so much out lack of standards/desperation the dating market would be more equal so again men are the architects of their own demise and it's up to them to fix it.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/23 03:04 PM
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Good keep spreading the word that men shouldn't date women who make them work harder for sex than other guys.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/23 02:50 PM
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No thank you if a woman didn't make another guy work for sex but is making me I'm not dating her. Sucks to suck I guess. Maybe if she always prioritized sex in committed relationships only this would never be an issue.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/23 02:48 PM
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When men start prioritizing themselves over exclusively what women want and what benefits them it will get better. These problems are created by men and perpetuated by men. It's up to men to raise their standards, have self respect and have self control.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/23 02:43 PM
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That's exactly what I have always done and I'd advise other men to do the same. Don't date women who make you work for sex if she didn't make other guys work for sex. I don't want "casual sex" I want equal sex. If a woman gave another guy easy sex but is making me work for it I'm not dating her. See the solution is women not giving certain guys easy sex and making other men work for it because "relationships" or "reasons". If women want relationships that bad they should only have sex after a gu…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/23 02:41 PM
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Male loneliness, suicide and depression are at record highs. The current relationship/sexual paradigm is definitely working.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/23 02:34 PM
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Am I not allowed to want to be held to the same sexual standards as any other guy she's been with? I don't care that she thinks relationships equal I have to work for sex I also don't care that she thinks casual sex equals easy sex. I value equal or better sexual treatment from my partners. I don't consider having to wait for sex while another guy didn't better sexual treatment so I'm not doing that and I'd advise other men not to do that. Pretty simple.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/23 02:32 PM
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The world moving in that opposite direction is a world that doesn't benefit men so hopefully it doesn't go in that direction.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/23 02:25 PM
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It's not being a bitter loser to not date women who give men better sexual treatment than yourself. See the problem is you think looking for a relationship should equal hard to obtain sex for men. Why? Because that's what benefits women? Because that's how relationships work? Most relationships start from having casual sex so the two really aren't that different. If a woman wants to make a guy work for sex to date her that's fine it's her body her choice. But a guy doesn't have to date a woman t…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/23 02:22 PM
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That's cool I'm going to keep telling men to only do things that benefit them. I have no moral, logical or valid reason not to.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/23 02:15 PM
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That doesn't change the fact that another guy got easy sex while I had to work for it. I'm not and other guys shouldn't have sex or get into relationships with women that make them work harder than other guys for sex. You act like sex being different from relationships changes the fact that another guy could get no questions asked head on the second date and here I am doing cartwheels and booking reservations at expensive restaurants for the chance at making out 3 months from now. Lmao bad deal …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/23 02:08 PM
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I'm not deciding anything I'm informing men to look out for themselves and do things that benefit them. Not wanting sloppy seconds isn't an entitlement. It's called having standards. Men are severely lacking standards in our modern society.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/23 02:04 PM
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Yes and instead of trashing women or moving on just don't give commitment to women who give easy sex to other men instead of you. That will accomplish more for making the sexual market place fair for these men (which is what they want) than trashing women or moving on.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/23 02:00 PM
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Isn't enough for what? Should men hold women to even higher standards because I very much agree with that.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/23 01:44 PM
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So hypothetically would you be cool if your husband took the woman he dated before you on exotic all expenses paid vacations and with you he only takes you for walks at the local park? I mean life's unfair right? Only some women have their man take them on exotic vacations while others only get taken to the park, it doesn't mean anything because the exotic vacations benefited the first woman more than a park would. Keep trying hard at your relationship with your husband even though he gave way b…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/23 01:43 PM
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It's suboptimal because the optimal situation would either be you get sex at the same ease and frequency as any other guy she's dated or you get it even better than those previous guys. Anything less is suboptimal and men shouldn't accept it. Again because it doesn't benefit them.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/23 01:27 PM
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Don't date women who hold different men to different sexual standards?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/23 01:25 PM
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No it's a good attitude because it ensures in her eyes you are either the best or at least starting off sexually and romantically on equal grounds as the other men before you. Men shouldn't put themselves in suboptimal positions when it comes to their sex lives.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/23 01:20 PM
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Yep and they will continue to be lonely if they have no standards and dumpster dive for women with crappy values.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/23 01:18 PM
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Because you've already jumped through the hoops to get sex the guy before you didn't. So doing that does not benefit you. Why should a guy work for the sex another man didn't work for? What men enable by jumping through hoops for women who have not made other guys jump through hoops is that it's ok to hold different men to different sexual standards. And in that respect the man who works for the sex is always sexually inferior to the man who didn't have to work it. The onus isn't on men to just …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/23 01:16 PM
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No it's neither of those things men shouldn't enable behaviors that aren't beneficial to them. Why should anyone enable something that doesn't benefit them? Because reasons? I acted and still act like this and am married and have been in a successful relationship for almost a decade. More men need to wake up and realize that they shouldn't date or interact with women who hold men to different standards. They should date fair women who hold all men to the same standards every time.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/23 01:01 PM
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In 2023 they are
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/23 12:50 PM
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It's not insecurity it's practicality. I'm not jumping through hoops to get laid when another guy got it for free. If women don't like it don't sleep with guys casually so easily. Actually make them all work for it. I'm not enabling female behaviors that don't benefit me.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/23 12:48 PM
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Because these guys know eventually they're going to end up with a woman that's been with another guy way too easily. No guy wants to put a ton of effort into courting a woman that gave it all away and more to some random guy that wasn't him so now he has to jump through all these hoops while another guy didn't. Seems like a proactive attitude/take to avoid such situations.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/23 12:34 PM
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Society basically functions off soft polyamory now anyway where the top percentage of guys are hoarding all the women. And it's already effecting society terribly look at the rates of male loneliness and suicide.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/23 05:33 AM
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You have to remember women aren't competing for average guys they are competing for Chads. If women were happy with average guys they would just shower and not be fat but instead we have whole industries revolving around age defying make up and skin care routines and all this other shit and it's because competition for Chads affection is so fierce amongst women they need to stand out from the rest.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/23 05:30 AM
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I prefer women without make up. My wife looks so weird with make up on her natural skin and lips look so much better without all that garbage on them. Most men I know don't like makeup on women either so this sounds more like a woman thinking because other women care about a woman's makeup habits that men must also.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/23 05:27 AM
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That's completely untrue most average normal BMI bodied women are not attracted to average normal BMI bodied men. A better argument would be to debate to what degree do looks matter between sexes and even in that case it matters to women more because most men are physically attracted to most women.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/23 01:11 AM
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If I watch porn my gf can watch porn. But that's it. No talking to other guys sexually irl or online just videos, just porn basically. I see so many women uncomfortable with porn make these false equivalencies like "how would you feel if your wife masturbated to your hot male neighbor while they were both in the same room?" It's not touching, it's just masturbating to another person. Right?" No not right if I watch porn which we all know what that is online videos, images, so can she. It's funny…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/23 11:07 PM
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