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Care to let a man know, then?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/23 11:21 PM
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Video games and the internet produced two or three, generations of asocial weirdos. If I was dictator of Earth I’d make the internet education-only and et rid of video games all together. I was content as a teen not going out or trying to and sitting inside all day playing games. I still game, but I’m convinced it’s brain rot just like TikTok that stunts social and mental development.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/23 07:02 PM
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Internet and video games. I love both, but they both need to go away forever. People also living in cities or suburbs and raising their kids there would help, too. Would have helped me at least, instead of a rural bumfuck town where I had to spend summers alone.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/23 06:37 PM
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Well I don’t have any of those incel rape views you talked about and I’m not conservative so I think I have the “good person” thing down. Half the comments on this sub horrify me tbh. I don’t think I’m somehow unintentionally a bad person and I do find the idea a little ludicrous because I can recognize things bad people say and do, I’m not on the spectrum.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/23 06:26 PM
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Full inspection? Want me to bend and spread while I’m at it? I fucking hate the assumption it’s because I’m a monster. It’s not just people like you on this sub but real life, too, people look at me like I have two heads or something if they find out. You want to know one reason I actually know? It’s because I never tried that hard until the last couple of years. Why? I have an embarrassing and ugly scar on my dick. Need to know anything else about me, or did I pass your “is this guy evil” test?…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/23 05:57 PM
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I just don’t understand what I’m doing wrong. I’m not a misogynist like most other incels are. I’m not completely unattractive. Im funny. I can hold conversations. I just don’t have it and I’ve never known what the fuck it even is.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/23 05:13 PM
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True, but things were different back then. Women can be picky nowadays more so than ever before, and they certainly are.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/23 05:11 PM
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The internet, and video games, caused a lot of this.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/23 04:32 PM
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From a guys perspective, she was being a little insulting to us and I immediately disliked her for it
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/23 02:05 PM
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As someone with a crooked nose who was born with a hairline that you’d say is receding (I was born with. wide M like a McDonald’s arch for a hairline) I wish all women were like you, seriously. My hair hasn’t receded an inch, it just looks like it is, and I know for a fact from mutual friends that its fucked me over when it comes to dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/23 01:28 PM
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The FOMO comes largely from the internet. Get rid of that and encourage people of both genders not to sleep around, and problem solved
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/23 12:56 PM
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Small dick jokes are the only socially acceptable form of body shaming nowadays. It should go away like everything else did
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/23 12:21 PM
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Just say you hate lonely dudes, holy fuck.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/23 11:38 AM
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Nothing wrong with it unless you’re on one side of that 50% and don’t want to be, but get stuck there. If I end up dying without getting to have kids, I’m haunting this entire hellhole planet.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/23 11:20 AM
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Getting rid of the internet altogether would do the same thing, and help humanity in just about every other way too. It’s the first thing I’d do as dictator of Earth (maybe not the first but it would be soon)
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/23 11:13 AM
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Jesus fucking Christ dude.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/23 10:55 AM
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If I don’t get that young love in my life, I’ll certainly be one of those bitter dudes when I’m 30.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/23 10:54 AM
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Not the only difference, but it’s a significant one. Women wouldn’t date a guy who’s worked at Burger King for eight years because he’s only worked at BK for 8 years. A dude would if he liked her. That’s a big difference between men and women’s dating experiences.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/23 10:53 AM
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I don’t want to fucking pump and dump women, Jesus Christ. I never fucking said that, and hate when people like you assume it. I don’t want that. I want, again, a relationship. I’d love to offer a woman romance. I miss being called sweet when I did something romantic. I’d love to offer a woman love and intimacy, too. I just never get the chance.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/23 12:27 AM
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Men are typically healthier and happier partnered.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/23 12:21 AM
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I’d rather experience that than continue to have never known intimacy. That’s what you types don’t understand. We’ve never known love or intimacy or romance at all. I’d rather get the experience of a relationship and love and intimacy then leave if I feel lonely in it than never having gotten the experiences at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/23 12:20 AM
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That’s not really an explanation for it tho
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/23 12:17 AM
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Most of the time they do tho
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/23 12:15 AM
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Being hornier would logically leading to wanting more intimacy, wouldn’t it? At least for a lot of dudes, sex is a big part of intimacy, as well. I’d never get a prostitute because there’s 0 emotion there.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/23 08:31 PM
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I like that, but it doesn’t stop the problem of the internet turning developing kids into asocial weirdos or how it’s endless dopamine hits are diluting our brain power.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/23 08:02 PM
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So I’d go with my original idea I didn’t include - make the internet educational only. In this hypothetical I’m the benevolent dictator of Earth, so I assume I’d have the capability to do this. No comments. No profiles. Only education on anything you could think of. Some forums for specific issues (like when you have one specific problem and there’s a forum from 15 years ago that gives you the solution) and I’d heavily moderate the whole thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/23 07:56 PM
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I would settle for them just not existing anymore. Same with most of the internet, Reddit included tbh. World would improve drastically after a couple years with severely restricted internet use.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/23 07:06 PM
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I don’t chase the pretty girls. I go for girls around my level looks-wise. Still have never had a relationship. This assumption is both popular and completely fucking wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/23 07:02 PM
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For women, it’s not. Most men would love it though, given we don’t get that kind of attention.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/23 07:00 PM
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No, but let’s be honest man. Most will be.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/23 07:00 PM
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Answer in good faith for me? I have 0 fucking clue. Must have missed that class in high school or college….
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/23 06:57 PM
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And I described how that’s not what I want.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/23 05:29 PM
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I don’t want random sex though. I want a relationship foremost, with a woman I love who loves me and we have sex through that emotional bond, but it’s that bond I want more than the sex. I miss girls calling me sweet when I do something romantic, man. Horniness doesn’t just mean wanting to fuck. It’s also a drive for finding a partner, for dudes at least.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/23 05:16 PM
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While this post makes me feel like a piece of shit and broken for not having done those things, I think you’re kind of spot on, but there are significant factors in society that are making everyone lonelier and less connected for sure.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/23 05:09 PM
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Because it’s as easy as flipping the “don’t be needy” switch in your brain, right? I understand this concept fundamentally, but in practice I just can’t do it. I want a relationship and a girlfriend. How am I supposed to not want that, when it’s a natural want?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/23 05:04 PM
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I suspect a mix of A and B. I think male loneliness like you’re talking about can’t be solved by friends, no matter how supportive. I have plenty of supportive friends - older gen z is great about this, guys helping each other out. Still don’t feel happy because I’ve never had a relationship. I think our problem with loneliness is because we’re just naturally hornier. It definitely existed in the past, but to a lesser extent because women didn’t have autonomy in society like they do now, so they…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/23 04:48 PM
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They do, but they’re also healthier and happier without than men are.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/23 12:11 AM
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I don’t feel entitled, I just want a girlfriend. It seems like a normal thing normal people get to experience. I’ve never known that experience. I want a family like my dad got to have, like my grandad got to have, etc etc. Women and men are different. Men don’t get as much validation and attention as their counterpart woman, so they don’t have that external validation they often get. Men are also hornier than women because of our higher T. All of that is why women are happier single. Men tend t…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/23 08:10 PM
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Every other area in my life is fine. I’ve always wanted a girlfriend and haven’t even held a girls hand. Yes, I’m fucking sure I’m unhappy because I’ve never known romance. Sorry for the passive aggression. I hate when people say “oh it’s not necessary!” Or “oh, that’s not why you’re unhappy!” Yes, it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/23 06:09 PM
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Very important. Largest contributing factor to me feeling like shit most days. I’ve never known romance in my life, when it seems like something normal that normal people get to experience, so not having it makes me feel like something is just inherently wrong with me, especially as I fail time and again when trying to improve myself to have more of a chance.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/23 05:56 PM
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I can agree it’s the man’s responsibility. But there are plenty of men who fail to fix the problem time and again over the course of years and, as we’re seeing more and more now, over the course of decades. I myself can’t seem to get the hang of it and fail every time I try something new, and would appreciate a little help be it practical advice or coaching or something. I don’t know how to fix the problems I don’t know are problems or are expensive problems, ya know? Or which solutions are good…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/23 05:36 PM
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Not every struggling man is an antisocial misogynist, please don’t generalize. That’s part of why the problem persists is a woman finds out a man struggles to date and immediately assumes this, and so the man will do to us to struggle to date because he now has that reputation.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/23 05:07 PM
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Thanks for the total assumption about my life. I shoot within my league, actually.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/23 03:58 PM
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They really aren’t good at all. I have bumble and over the past several months and I’ll swipe left on everyone maybe once every other week. Literally everyone, I don’t even look at them, it’s a numbers game. The few matches I’ve gotten in that time have been dudes somehow, or people that never said anything and dipped. Oh, and one that liked my conversation so much she asked for my snap, asked for a selfie, then blocked me after it because I was, and I quote, “too ugly for her.”
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/23 07:21 AM
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I feel like if I tried to be picky I would die a virgin and having never kissed a girl. I can’t understand your point through that lens, I’ll admit.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/23 01:50 AM
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Yeah I’m not supporting the idea that women lack domestic skills now or anything. I was just having an issue with your point that if you’re unhappy dating people who don’t, you should date better, because again, men don’t often get that luxury to be choosy.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/23 01:30 AM
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Never said anything about women. They’re certainly more desirable on average, but they have their own issues as well. I was more responding to telling men to date better people. We don’t get attention like that, for some of us it’s an uphill battle and we’ll take what we can get
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/23 01:28 AM
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Yeah you can be an unattractive guy with game. A lot of people here are upset they don’t have the attractiveness or the game, and that’s where frustration comes in.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/23 01:07 AM
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We don’t always get the luxury to date better people, or we’d be alone and a lot of us don’t want that. A lot of guys take what they can get in that regard.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/23 12:57 AM
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I’d kill to experience a day of the life those guys have. I’d legitimately kill for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/23 07:50 PM
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If I’m still a virgin at 30, or have no relationship experience, I’m gonna end it all, but that’s just me.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/23 05:06 AM
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While you aren’t wrong, you kinda stepped over the point. Women have the advantage in the dating market because they’re almost always going to be desirable to someone, regardless of sex. Yes, they have to vet out people looking for a hookup. But they get that luxury to be able to vet a lot of people regardless.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/23 04:48 AM
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Most men would be open to casual sex, yeah. We’re hornier and it’s relatively faster to get aroused. That doesn’t mean they don’t want a relationship instead, though, it just means if the opportunity to have sex comes up most men will jump at it. Also a symptom of us being touch and what I like to call positive-attention-starved.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/23 09:49 PM
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True, but any effort however fruitless it might be is better than none and building resentment or bitterness.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/23 05:52 AM
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A significant reason guys enter relationships is to have sex. That doesn’t mean they don’t like the woman, cus in 90% of cases they do, but it’s also because they want to have regular sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/23 06:18 AM
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Women typically do better single, men are usually unhappier and unhealthier single. Also those beliefs you said are common, but only for chronically online dudebros. Should be easy to avoid those types.
/r/ExRedPill01/11/23 11:07 AM
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True that they aren’t always going to look for the next hottest guy, but there’s a good chance he’s going to look for her regardless. The point is that nowadays, because of the internet, you have to compete with every dude in a 50 mile radius, not just every dude in your town, and it’s far easier for all of those dudes to talk to the girl and try to get with her.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/23 09:33 PM
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Never said the problem was women. I absolutely do blame the internet largely because it gives people the illusion of choice. It’s the classic “grass is greener over there” thing. People won’t commit because they think there’s something better. Why would a woman go for me when she can get a guy exactly like me, just a little hotter, by looking online for ten minutes? The internet also turned people into asocial weirdos. I struggle with women, I don’t understand them, largely because I was sociall…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/23 07:41 PM
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Facts
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/23 07:21 PM
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True, but society has changed a great deal since mom and dad got together and had me. Would they have done so if either of them had access to a country’s worth of more attractive or funnier people? Or if one of them decided to do onlyfans to make money? It’s not as simple for everyone today imo
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/23 07:16 PM
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I’d love for therapy to help me be more attractive, since clearly I’m incapable of doing it on my own. If the alternative is ending myself when I’m 30 and still a virgin, I’d take that kind of therapy every day. That said I’d probably still be bitter because I had to go through it but other men didn’t because it came naturally to them.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/23 07:11 PM
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You’re exhausting, I’m done here. Nothings gonna get better for you if you just stay angry and bitter.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/23 04:40 AM
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I’m 22. I thought that I was bitter, but I’m a ray of sunlight compared to you. Thanks for being a shining example of what not to be in ten years.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/23 02:58 AM
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Dude you are painfully bitter. Life doesn’t end at fucking 33 lmaoo
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/23 02:53 AM
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The HS years are more important for healthy social development so that you can actually do good with the networking years after.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/23 12:30 AM
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Yeah this is why I hate it. It’s like I have strings that they’re pulling as they yell “dance monkey, dance!” It always feels unequal like I’m putting in so much effort for no effort from them.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/23 08:27 AM
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If I have to give up on dating because I can’t reach 5/10 (and how would I even know?) I’m joining the statistics for men ending it young. I want what my dad had, what my grandad had, what his dad had, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/23 08:12 AM
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If I’m destined to fall in that percentage I’m just gonna end it all. What’s the point if I can’t have the basic thing that is love that normal people get to have?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/23 07:45 PM
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Lemme just get surgery for my entire face and hairline. I’ll totally be able to afford that in todays economy, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/23 07:43 PM
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Oh yeah I agree completely, but I’d Americans see a vain people When I said I can’t do it now, I was referring to the cost. Can’t afford it on top of actual living expenses and bills.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/23 01:32 AM
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I genuinely don’t know how to fix my looks though. Can’t afford to fix my teeth, I work out but only get minimal muscle mass, I have a weird ass hairline and odd shaped skull so bald isn’t an option (and girls don’t like young bald guys) I can’t grow a beard. I can dress better and have a face routine but that’s basically it, and it isn’t enough for me unfortunately.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/23 11:39 PM
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That shit costs money. Not all of us have dental insurance or he money to pay for it out of pocket. This one gets me the most angry because I couldn’t get braces as a kid and I’m not gonna be able to now.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/23 11:37 PM
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It’s just my face and blandness I guess. I don’t do any of the creepy stuff you described.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/23 05:06 PM
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Sex would certainly feel like an accomplishment to me. Fuck, just a relationship would. Or any kind of interest and attention from a woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/23 09:52 AM
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You sound heartless. I want to experience love. I want to be loved. There is nothing wrong with that. I haven’t experienced love, and I’m upset about that. Again, there’s nothing wrong with that. People like you love to demonize the desire to be loved. It’s a natural human desire and something that happens to normal people.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/23 09:29 AM
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What makes me the worst? In technical terms I’m an incel, but I don’t believe the red pill shit and am a feminist. So what makes me the worst of the worst? Not worth mating? That’s kinda fucked up imo
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/23 09:26 AM
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This is being very disingenuous imo. A lot of men, myself included, want at least somebody to notice and be attracted to them. They don’t want a harem, they want to know what being desired is like for a change. They also don’t want to experience games, like women tolerating them because they give her attention.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/23 11:54 AM
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Desire might be the same, but men want it more in a different way. They pursue more. They won’t be happy about being without sex for years at a time, whereas women often don’t care about it as much.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/23 06:57 AM
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I don’t want casual sex. I want a committed and loving relationship where I can have sex with someone that wants and loves me like I do them. That’s where my loneliness comes in. It’s more about the lack of a romantic element in my life than a lack of sex, but hey, at least sex would make me feel attractive to fuckin somebody.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/23 07:08 PM
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More than often, a trash personality is just being introverted. Wish I was more naturally outgoing.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/23 06:30 PM
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It’s…statements based on statistics. On average, men are happier and healthier when they have a partner. I understand some people thrive when they’re single, but that is not most people.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/23 12:58 AM
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I would argue it’s societies responsibility to try to make sure everyone in it is as happy and fulfilled as possible, without crossing anyone else’s rights.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/23 08:28 PM
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Good for you. Statistically, most men are happier. Healthier as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/23 02:54 PM
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If the average man can’t get sex he probably isn’t in a relationship either. Chances are he’s unhappy or lonely since statistically men are much happier when they’re paired. So a lot of lonely and unhappy dudes is a problem in society. It can be a confidence / ego thing, but it’s a basic human desire to be wanted by somebody.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/23 09:10 AM
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Ok and? Your statistics were for marriage specifically.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/23 12:01 PM
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That’s marriage though. This thread was specifically just dating. Especially nowadays, dating doesn’t always lead to marriage.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/23 10:09 AM
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Getting snipped isn’t reversible after several years, this is a dogshit argument. There should be better birth control developed for men than that.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/23 09:54 PM
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If you get divorced and happen to be a nasty person, you’ll be plenty scary to any guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/23 08:49 PM
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Might have worked for you, but most people don’t and won’t have the money or time to do that. Would if I could in a heartbeat. Besides, I don’t even know if they could fix my chin and lips, they’d have to fuck with the muscles in that area too much.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/23 08:09 PM
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I would never be. To me and my admitted insecurities, I assumed you were talking about ugly guys / neurodivergent guys / very introverted guys.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/23 06:11 PM
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Why is that, when for men it doesn’t work like that? Most men want to eventually get into a relationship even if she doesn’t “vastly enrich our life” Is it a higher sex drive thing?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/23 05:56 PM
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That sounds so fucked up to me idk
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/23 05:54 PM
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I’m 5’8. I’d say my face is a solid 4. I have decent cheekbones but a bulbous and crooked nose, bad eyebrows, a wide M shaped hairline since birth so I’ve always looked like my hair is receding. Asymmetrical chin so I can’t smile with my (also crooked) teeth showing. Assumetrical jawline. Would go bald to fox the hair thing but my head looks so fucking weird bald, I have a divot on the top of my head. For the most part I’m neurotypical, but have social anxiety that has gotten a lot better over t…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/23 05:44 PM
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When I’m at least 40 and haven’t accomplished my personal dreams or found a relationship and my sister has a family of her own so she won’t be as devastated.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/23 05:41 PM
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If I’m destined to never “get it” I’ll just end things tbh. I want kids, a wife and a loving marriage. I’d like to at least know what love and passion feel like.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/23 07:11 AM
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Nobody said it was women’s fault in this thread, just that all of the above in this thread proves you dead fucking wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/23 10:01 PM
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Because you have to if you don’t want to be lonely for the rest of your life? I mean, it’s on dudes to do the asking because women won’t. How it’s been, how it’ll always be.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/23 05:54 PM
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Pretty much the same as you, but scared of becoming a BB kind of person. I don’t want to be someone’s second choice, ya know? Their safe backup.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/23 11:25 PM
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I think looks are one of the more important things in terms of initially attracting a woman and being desired by her (not just tolerated. I want her to want me like I want her), and it’s where I fail. I just don’t know how to improve my misfortunes. Tried a dozen hairstyles, none look good with my weird hairline. Bald looks weird with my oddly shaped head. Can’t grow a beard to hide my assumetrical chin / mouth when I talk or smile. Can’t afford new teeth. Don’t know the first thing about fixing…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/23 06:42 PM
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You’re absolutely right. I come here when I’m feeling especially bad about my loneliness and virginity (which is pretty often now) and yeah, I catch myself thinking some bad shit that I’ve read on here and immediately snap out of it. It’s definitely not a good place for anyone to be.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/23 05:21 PM
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Lmao what? Literally everything you said applies to men too, you’re just glad you don’t have to do it. That’s privileged af
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/23 05:10 PM
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I didn’t argue against that, just that if all else fails it’s because of misogyny.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/23 05:05 PM
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Literally anything else? I struggle dating because I’m boring and don’t hold conversations well. Not because I’m secretly a misogynist and women can smell that lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/23 04:57 PM
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The classic “if all else fails, you can’t date because you’re a misogynist” argument. Stupid then, stupid now.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/23 04:51 PM
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Hi, guy here in his 20s. My mom did the same things. I still struggle with dating. You gotta do more than this, which frankly is the bare minimum.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/23 07:34 AM
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You say “all the details” I interpret that as everything, from the details of the sex to the quality of it or him.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/23 07:29 PM
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I would find that extremely disrespectful if my significant other shared details like that. I don’t among my friends out of respect, I would expect the same from her or I would be upset by that.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/23 06:02 PM
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Whereas your husband might care about sex more, because dudes generally do.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/23 08:02 AM
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Cool. Your anecdote is pointless relative to OP’s hypothetical. Lots of 65k jobs that aren’t manual labor btw. Dude could be a low level programmer his whole life and not have those issues.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/23 06:02 PM
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You ignored what I said about all of his social interactions being different, and often for the better.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/23 01:25 PM
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You’re incapable of empathizing with men, aren’t you?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/23 01:25 PM
1

Yes. But for the first 40 years or more, Guy A will have a completely different life, and in terms of relationships or really any social interactions at all, it will be a better life.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/23 01:18 PM
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You realize you can live with your parents but do everything yourself, right? 22M living with my parents. I buy everything I eat and cook, do my own laundry and every other chore (yes that includes cleaning everything from toilets to counters) care for my own car etc. You sound, frankly, like an arrogant and annoying person to know irl
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/23 12:50 PM
0

Join the real world, sweetie. All I have to say. You sound extremely entitled and arrogant.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/23 12:43 PM
1

But Guy B will never have the relationships guy A can have. I pick guy A 10/10 times.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/23 12:41 PM
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A lot of the time for dudes sex and romance absolutely are connected, and sex is intimacy as much as kissing or cuddling is. Women don’t see it the same way it seems
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/23 12:28 PM
1

Women can be accountable for that too. Someone had to make the stupid decision to fuck a dead best and absentee father. The traits those types have don’t miraculously appear.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/23 11:54 AM
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No, it’s not. Most men dont want to be single. You’re being disingenuous here.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/23 11:48 AM
2

Did they settle for overweight women or poorer women? I would say mostly yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/23 10:45 AM
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If men didn’t approach or put the effort in to start dating a girl, most men would be single.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/23 10:41 AM
2

That’s also because for a lot of men, sex is intimacy. We’re all touch starved, attention starved, etc. so knowing that someone wants to sleep with you as a man is more intimate than that knowledge is for a woman - because just being a woman means many guys will have sex with you. That’s not the only intimacy I personally crave, but I can understand why men treat sex and intimacy like they’re synonymous. Men and women are different, that’s just a difference.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/23 10:36 AM
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I agree. That being said, women typically don’t understand that sex for men is different than it is for them, and usually far more important.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/23 07:28 AM
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Not so much the social stigma. I just want to experience something that’s normal for other people to have had at this point, and apparently feels really good. I want a relationship more than sex, but I still want sex. There’s nothing wrong with that, but men get shamed for wanting sex constantly.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/23 04:45 AM
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Why are you posting this on…this sub of all places? Extremely off topic
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/23 09:27 AM
3

Wym? Insight about what?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/23 09:15 AM
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Men are always going to want women though, no matter how intimate their friendships are. There’s nothing wrong with that. Feels kinda pointless for you to make that comment though when that part won’t change.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/23 09:05 AM
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Unfortunately that stuff is part of being a man, both nowadays and in general. Men are always touch starved and intimacy starved, and usually horny more than women are.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/23 07:30 AM
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Yeah, I understand that. I understand why women don’t like it and how hard it can be. Doesn’t mean that i wouldn’t like it, I’ll take any attention I can get from someone attracted to me even superficially.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/23 07:23 AM
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Maybe, but you also don’t understand how easier y’all have it too. I know dealing with creeps sucks, but personally I wouldn’t be as irritated because at least I’d know fuckin someone wants me.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/23 06:08 AM
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Easier to get your foot in the door to finding a good partner, at least. I wouldn’t be nearly as depressed about it if I was a girl because at least I’d have attention from the other sex and options, and wouldn’t have to do the work that’s expected of me because I am a guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/23 05:37 AM
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I wasn’t talking just sex though. Everything about dating is easier. She is the one who gets asked out more often than doing the asking out, she gets to be boring on the date and half the time the guy will still be interested, she can just exist and a guy will want to ask her out and date her. Easier for them to get their foot in the door to finding a good partner for sure.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/23 05:19 AM
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If I’m one of those who’s never meant to “mate and find love” I’m just ending it tbh
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/23 03:57 AM
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True, I certainly am. Most women won’t admit this though. When it comes to finding a partner, for sex or a relationship, women have it on easy mode.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/23 03:52 AM
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No, there isn’t. Not to girls. Women will say there’s a difference, sure, but to them there really isn’t. Do be emotional with them AT ALL if you have any romantic hopes with them, it turns women off like nothing else.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/23 09:45 PM
1

Women consider any emotional imbalance in a guy trauma dumping though.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/23 09:11 PM
1

Don’t you see how that makes women seem fucking cruel? Any insecurities, anxieties, and you’re a pathetic nice guy?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/23 09:08 PM
1

all women will lose attraction. It doesn’t show confidence to them it shows the opposite. It’s better to not do it with them.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/23 09:06 PM
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I don’t want sex-crazed hedonism or even sex really. I just want my foot in the door and to hit just one milestone in life that I’ve missed. It seems natural and normal for fucking everyone else but I struggle. Your average dude doesn’t have to do the self love shit, he just intuitively is, and finds a relationship that way.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/23 08:35 PM
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If everyone else can find a relationship and I can’t because of things that make me unattractive, it absolutely is a measure of my self worth. There’s no world in which this isn’t true. I want to get married and have kids one day before I fucking die. Not being able to get close to that means I’m failing at what I want to do. It IS a measure of self worth.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/23 07:48 PM
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I want love more than I want sex. No girlfriend since middle school, never kissed a girl, whole nine. The idea of sex makes me incredibly nervous. I just want someone to love who loves me back.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/23 11:51 AM
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I’m a virgin with limited experience (never kissed a girl) so preferably I want someone my age with that same experience, mostly because of comfort. I won’t have to worry about the “ick” because I kiss her weird because she won’t know, and we’ll learn and develop at the same rate. Someone with more experience than me, I feel like I’ll disappoint and give the same kind of “ick”
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/23 05:54 AM
1

You can’t pick better in this instance when you don’t know the girl will do that until she does.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/23 02:03 PM
3

It’s isn’t necessarily about the man not being able to, it’s that it’s a token of appreciation to help out now and then. I would do the same for my girlfriends clothes, and would cook her favorite foods now and then, and all that. Would that make me a bang maid? No, it wouldn’t. It doesn’t have to be “the woman’s job” in those situations, so why do you feel like that?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/23 06:41 PM
2

That’s not how graphs work
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/23 12:35 PM
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Yeah, I get that a lot because as a guy I don’t get compliments that often either. Girls do though so it doesn’t mean as much to them, and that’s where the distinction comes in for why they might act differently in the scenario I described.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/23 05:28 PM
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If a hot girl was lusting after you after years of low self esteem, you would feel ecstatic. Not so much for an ugly girl.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/23 04:52 PM
3

Maybe because empathy is a virtue my guy, what?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/23 04:51 AM
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This guys unable to empathize with women, he’s too bitter. He laughed at sexual abuse statistics ffs, there’s no digging him out of that hole.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/23 04:34 AM
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It isn’t the “own” part, and that’s not what that means at all. It’s the “just your turn” part. Reading that sentence like a normal person instead of reading in too much like you did, that sentence can be translated as “she’s not the girl who will love you forever like you will her”
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/23 01:40 PM
2

I don’t want to have a lot of money, but if it meant I’d be able to find a relationship guaranteed than yeah I would “moneymaxx” for sure.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/23 09:04 AM
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Weird, because that advice just gives me more insecurities and depressive thoughts.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/23 08:52 AM
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Except this doesn’t work. The racist will continue to be racist, and a dumbfuck audience member (or fifteen) will agree with the racist just because they’re feelings are hurt and the racists point makes them feel better. This just creates more racism.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/23 07:39 AM
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You…you really don’t understand catcalling at all and can’t understand why women don’t like it. Maybe like, listen to women or something? I know I know, that’s crazy talk /s
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/23 05:21 AM
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What makes someone struggling to get a relationship “not normal” then? Seems a bit rude to me
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 01:53 PM
3

Being invisible might as well be ugly, it’s still saying they’re unattractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/23 07:52 AM
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The 80% is physically unattractive guys, not necessarily ugly. Maybe just average. But plenty of comments here from women say that average is unremarkable and not worth looking at, so yeah, in that context average = unattractive = ugly.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/23 07:50 AM
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That’s…incredibly callous and makes men “not even worth looking at” feel even worse
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/23 07:49 AM
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Your solution isn’t going to work. No matter how many in society say “it’s okay you’re a 45 year old loveless virgin!” He’s always going to feel bad about that on some level, he’s always going to want a relationship, want sex, want live etc. especially around people who have all of that.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/23 07:24 AM
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Kinda fucked we consider introverts or people who are shy as having bad personalities imo, but life’s a rigged game so it checks out
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/23 04:53 PM
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Why is it a turn off for you? At least you understand my point though
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/23 03:07 PM
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Well first off, most women aren’t interested in casual sex. Once, maybe, just like everyone else. But you’re talking as if every woman out there is getting banged out on the daily. The 65/35 thing is kinda true though.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/23 03:06 PM
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You can acknowledge a problem without having a solution. Do you have a cure-all fix for climate change?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/23 11:12 AM
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For a lot of them I assume they think this is what they want most but it’s not, it’s their most pressing concern.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/23 11:06 AM
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It’s not a bad thing to want sex, I hate how people treat it like that. It’s okay to want something and be a little upset you don’t have it. That being said, for me personally it is the relationship I want, not the sex
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/23 11:03 AM
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I imagine men tend to be unhappier if they’re single and not having any sex, while women are happier when both are true.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/23 10:50 AM
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Bro, thats not reality lol
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/23 10:41 AM
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Or are fat, ugly and can’t use makeup, or something they can’t control.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/23 09:50 AM
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I wouldn’t say their whole lives are easy like OOP said, but certainly their love lives are on easy mode compared to men. Y’all can get away with being boring, not paying, all sorts of stuff the guy can’t get away with.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/23 09:49 AM
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Then consider attention from the opposite sex instead of sex, because that can still be validating. Open any woman’s phone and she gets more texts in an hour (not just from men) than a guy gets in a day. Men don’t get attention, affection, compliments, anything that boosts the ego like women do commonly.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/23 09:41 AM
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Everyone instantly assumes a guy who’s struggling to date is an incel. The stigma only gets worse the longer he goes without a relationship. I have to lie and say I’m not a virgin, or it becomes too much of a red flag because of this. Guys struggling to date get 0 sympathy outside of guys.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/23 09:35 AM
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That’s because the girls they’re dating haven’t had to put that effort into a relationship, that’s always on the man. It’s one of the reasons women’s dating life is on easy mode while a man’s is on hard mode.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/23 09:17 AM
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This personality detector thing only works on unattractive dudes, it’s bs women love to say to feel better for not picking the ugly guy (rightfully) It does not work on attractive men. Plenty of attractive misogynists with girlfriends. Plenty with vitriol for women, plenty with archaic “traditional” views that have girlfriends that don’t and go “I don’t know how I didn’t see it before!”
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/23 09:16 AM
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Lmao that she said it was depressing and confusing he got poor results. If only more women came to this realization, maybe there would be more sympathy and genuine help. I would edit your last sentence. When it comes to relationships in general, irl or an app, women are on easy mode and men are on hard mode.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/23 09:12 AM
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Probably an emotional connection instead of meaningless flings.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/23 07:59 AM
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We don’t need therapists or studies to tell us this. People have just known this for as long as human history, I thought it was just common sense that men want sex more.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/23 07:57 AM
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Well one of the largest reasons for my personal issues is that I’m getting older and haven’t even had a first kiss with a girl, so yeah. It would fix half my self esteem issues because that’s one of the things I’m sad about.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/23 10:53 AM
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That’s been my classic excuse for years. “I can’t expect someone else to love me if I can’t love myself” but I don’t know how to, you know? I appreciate very little about myself because tbh there isn’t much to appreciate. A lot of young men like myself are stuck in exactly this position, and it’ll be a problem society can’t ignore.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/23 08:26 AM
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You aren’t wrong and I’m definitely self aware of my insecurities (for example my preference would be my first relationship is with a virgin like myself so we can learn about sex and each other at the same time, and definitely for insecure reasons too) so I hope I’ll be able to circumvent them, but who knows? I’m neurotic as fuck, genuinely crazy, so I might not ever get there. Might die before I ever get the chance. That’s probably my biggest fear.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/23 07:43 AM
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I don’t expect it to, but I expect it to help because it is what I want, and it is one of the reasons I’m so sad. A relationship for me will equal confidence in myself.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/23 07:28 AM
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Yeah, we agree on that part. Where you don’t seem to agree is where the women pick guys just because they’re attractive, because guys don’t show personality well.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/23 07:06 AM
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Need a girl in my orbit to have a girl in my orbit like me lol. I appreciate the words, genuinely. They’re the nicest a woman has probably ever said to me when I mention my struggles.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/23 07:05 AM
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Thanks for giving me a reason to leave the sub, I think that’s stupid. Sorry for overreacting then, but when you’ve been bullied your whole life and live in insecurity it’s easy to think someone’s mocking you.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/23 04:40 AM
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I don’t know what that means. I just know it’s still good to be an empathetic and kind person and not shit on someone’s sadness and issues.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/23 04:31 AM
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You’re fucking mean. You know that? What have I done so wrong in life to be treated like this by you? I’m an ugly awkward nerd. That’s why I can’t find a relationship. Not because I’m sexist, or a dick. I just can’t hold a conversation and look bad. You think it makes you a good person to dunk on someone like that? It’s heartless and cruel. I’m depressed every day because of my loneliness, my personal failings, my professional failings. You think I want to be a bad person? I work constantly to t…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/23 04:28 AM
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And there we have it, you can’t even give me sympathy, you just assume I’m a terrible person because I struggle to find a relationship. Fuck you, you don’t know me or my struggles.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/23 04:22 AM
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That’s just not true. You have to be attractive to her, and fun to be around. If she finds you physically unattractive but you’re fun, you still won’t get it.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/23 04:20 AM
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That’s such bullshit, it’s because they find most dudes unattractive. The dating apps let them have their pick of the most attractive because they’re women and the dudes are guys and will go with whatever. I mean, personality is so hard to show on a dating app profile, and men are notoriously bad at that.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/23 04:18 AM
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I’m an incel and don’t believe any of that if it means anything, I’m just involuntarily celibate in the truest sense of those words
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/23 04:09 AM
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The problem is that any incel (myself) who isn’t red pill or doesn’t believe the shit they believe gets pumped in with them.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/23 04:08 AM
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It’s not bad to want a relationship (or even to just want sex) and it’s not bad to be upset over being unable to find one
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/23 04:07 AM
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I’m an incel, but not red pill or a misogynist. Hit the nail on the head a bit there. Never got that attention from women growing up, girls always ignored me because of my looks, so I never got the opportunity to learn “game” or “suave” or what have you. People will call me evil and an asshole and a sexist and all sorts of nasty shit, just for saying this.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/23 04:06 AM
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Fucking thank you, this explains why it’s so callous to make fun of incels who aren’t red pill douchebags. Acting like I’m a fucking terrorist for wanting A) a relationship and B) sex in that relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/23 03:56 AM
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That’s a lot of conjecture and making things up. I want sex, with a loving partner, not a woman I’m just gonna use
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/23 02:44 AM
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He didn’t say looks. I fall for women quickly because of everything but the looks. The attention and support she gives me, her laugh, her intelligence, the things she says or does. Hell, give me attention for five minutes or compliment me once and I might imagine a whole ass future with a woman. That’s not uncommon for guys.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/23 08:49 AM
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There could be a much broader study about this, but using my own gen Z experience I believe women tend to be more extroverted than guys, probably more so now than ever. Internet culture and gaming probably has a lot to do with it, especially as kids grow up in it.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/23 08:45 AM
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They don’t actually want it, I’m convinced of that. The second they get that emotional availability, 9/10 they get turned off.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/23 08:39 AM
1

You kinda started it by saying “hits you in the feels” In the context of this thread, that’s like you saying “yeah so sucks for you virgin for having 0”
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/23 08:53 AM
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I don’t want a woman with more experience than me, just because she would have…more experience than me, by a lot. Of course there are ways I won’t meet expectations from previous relationships, especially if those are unrealistic. Of course I won’t be as good a partner because of my less experience. And thus, of course she’ll leave me eventually because of my less experience. No thanks, if she’s had more relationships than me by a large margin I won’t be interested.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/23 08:51 AM
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You forgot the most important rule - don’t be ugly. And the second most important rule - don’t have social anxiety. Have both? You’re fucked.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/23 08:30 AM
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Ugly guy here - fuck you. I want to date, I want a girlfriend I can go down on for as long as she lets me, I want a girlfriend that reads books and has hobbies so we can talk about them. You’re completely fucking wrong and generalizing the shit out of people. Again, fuck you.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/23 08:24 AM
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Yea, but when you’ve never had a partner and are only getting older while your peers have girlfriends you start to fall down a pit of loneliness and despair. Again, you don’t understand the depth of male loneliness. I’ve been alone my entire life. It doesn’t get easier, or happier. My friends are in or have had relationships and sex, I’ve had neither. How do you think that makes me feel? Now apply that to more and more young men all over the world. We’re conditioned by society to believe that fi…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/23 08:17 AM
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Exactly. I don’t want to be somebody’s second or third choice, and I don’t want somebody to be with me because of everything else but what makes me me.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/23 08:13 AM
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How do you do that though? I have a weird hairline and shaped head. Never found a cool haircut that works for me, bald included. I don’t know game either, so how does somebody learn that?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/23 08:10 AM
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You genuinely don’t understand the depth of male loneliness. It’s not an issue of finding appreciation elsewhere. Everybody wants love and to be loved.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/23 08:07 AM
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Except it’s easier for women to have fun, now more than ever. Relationship dynamics where one partner has all the experience and the other doesn’t have any don’t work.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/23 05:03 AM
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It’s easier now than ever before for women to fuck whoever they want whenever they want. Average guys stand no chance and it’s going to become noticeably worse.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/23 05:00 AM
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Some people only know rejection. What else would they do besides let it run their life?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/23 04:51 AM
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It always was peasants and nobility
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/23 09:51 AM
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It’s finding that partner to have consensual and safe sex with is the issue. Go home with the wrong guy and risk being dismembered. Casual Sex for men is like drinking water in a desert, it’s rare to find. For women, it’s drinking water in a polluted swamp. Too many dangerous people / selfish lovers / bad lovers / bad people etc
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/23 09:47 AM
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Depends on how you frame it. If you frame it in a way so as to say “so naturally that’s all women should be” then yeah it’s sexist
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/23 12:27 PM
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It tries to be realistic, which is why women don’t like it. Despite the misogyny in some places, there are parts of it that describe how women tend to act that’s spot on and they don’t like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/23 08:32 AM
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Well yeah, because sex is typically more important for the dude and chances are he doesn’t have as much sex as he wants to. That’s the end goal for a lot of guys too, at least early in the relationship. We’ll do xyz at this area, so that she might be in the mood to have sex tonight. I’m n a way, it is transactional. I’d describe the feeling of love in general the same way. What do I have to do to get love (because it’s never happened naturally for me) and become less lonely. Well, I have to do x…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/23 08:30 AM
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Too many stories of men opening up to their girlfriends only to lose her respect and attraction because of that. No, thanks. Y’all are lying when you say you want your men to be vulnerable.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/23 12:23 PM
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Because people lie to themselves about what they want, because what they actually want is usually what they say they don’t.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/23 12:20 PM
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The irony in you making this post then immediately dismissing (in a salty way) what an actual woman says lol
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/23 06:57 AM
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Eh, all women are savvy when it comes to potentially dangerous situations. The classic “men can wear headphones when walking at night while women can’t” comes to mind, because violence against women is a constant worry for them. When’s the last time you wondered if someone you found attractive was crazy enough to rape and murder you?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/23 06:55 AM
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Uh, everybody admits it’s common lol. At least women do because they deal with it more. We just say it isn’t good - because it’s not.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/23 06:42 AM
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Depends on how you blame her. “Women just suck at this let me” is misogyny. “You messed up with that” is not.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/23 05:46 PM
1

It’s not quite like that. I still like whoever I’m in the relationship with, but there’s some things that I’d want in a partner (reads books and preferably the same genres as me is an example) that I have forgone in previous relationships because again, if I’m too choosy I’m lonely.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/23 05:46 PM
1

No. I still have standards, I just can’t be as choosy as I’d like.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/23 05:44 PM
2

Max of both for me between gut reaction and reason. I don’t expect sex after a set amount of dates or at all, but if it happens and I find out down the line she had sex with previous partners earlier it would make me feel less attractive, less valuable, less funny, less charming etc. because she waited for me and not them, as if they made her hornier or were more attractive or funnier or more charming etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/23 05:41 PM
1

That…that isn’t necessarily what that’s saying
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/23 01:36 AM
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That’s not a “woman approved way” that’s just basic fucking decency my guy. Even other dudes will shun you for opening up in ways like this, or being too personal or sharing too much etc
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/23 01:32 AM
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That’s not what they mean by “used against you later on” it could be opening up about an insecurity, then her bringing it up in an argument to hurt you. Which men also do lol
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/23 01:28 AM
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Standards for men are on the floor. Get your girl a surprise coffee and see her friends gush about it for months. And it’s important for women to be aware of the danger some men can pose. Otherwise I agree with a lot of this
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/23 01:26 AM
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OP is a dude, and this is clearly him building on his hypothetical post instead of saying society should wholesale condemn men
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/23 12:54 AM
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She absolutely did not do anything wrong, you’re right. You just aren’t understanding why we’d be upset over that, even though your earlier comment about hook ups = please and sex in relationships = emotions is also spot on. For me personally, if I know she waited longer to have sex with me than someone else I will just feel less attractive, less funny, less charming etc. because to me that feels like her saying “I found this guy hot and he made me horny immediately” compared to me, who in this …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/23 12:16 AM
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I won’t ever say a woman owes someone sex, but I would genuinely feel less attractive and that were less compatible if she waited longer to have sex with me versus a hook up or previous relationship, even if it’s because she got burned having sex too quickly and might be taking it slow so as not to ruin it. I wouldn’t expect sex just because of that of course, but I might move on to someone else because I wouldn’t feel as valuable on a personal level
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/23 12:04 AM
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As an admittedly insecure guy I’d explain it like this - if a woman had hook ups for fun, not necessarily to try to get a relationship with who she’s hooking up with, I’d feel less valuable and attractive if she waited longer to have sex with me than most of said hook ups. Maybe she’s playing it cautious and is afraid herself of going too fast and fucking it up, but still, I’m not gonna feel great that she waited longer for sex with me than somebody else. I’ll feel less attractive, less wanted, …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/23 12:00 AM
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He’s not really describing that though. He’s describing a situation where they were on dates so the woman had some level of attraction and interest but it took too long to go anywhere. The friend zone is more one-sided than that because there usually isn’t any interest or attraction from the girl anyway
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/23 11:53 PM
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Can be, but how hard it may or may not be depending on the woman doesn’t mean it’s anything more than an orgasm. If it was hard to make you cum you wouldn’t become drunk on the woman who did it
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/23 04:49 PM
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I wouldn’t say it was that, I’d say it’s how interconnected literally everything and everyone is now. Dudes are lonelier than ever before and it doesn’t take much to become attracted to a woman. It’s like the analogy that if sex (or in this case let’s just say “potential partners”) was clean drinking water, women are in a swamp and men are in a desert. Both sides have it tough.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/23 07:45 AM
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I can make stuff up for points in an discussion, too!
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/23 04:28 AM
2

I’d argue starter husband happens more often, but I also don’t think divorce is a criminal sin so idc
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/23 04:27 AM
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Not necessarily, but it certainly can. But you can’t help from becoming attracted to someone, especially if it’s a friend you get along with very well. It’s a matter of how you handle that if at all that could present issues. There can be tact in those situations or there might not be.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/23 03:51 AM
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For your top paragraph, I would say the exact same thing for men, for virtually the same reasons. Because it’s harder for both sexes nowadays. Women can have a lot of options if they want, it’s just a matter of filtering out the creeps, sexists, and weirdos, which can be hard. But because of that men have more competition than ever before as well, so it’s harder for them too.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/23 03:50 AM
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No, that’s just a risk. The reason is because they’re either unattractive, there’s no chemistry, or they set off an ick. It’s not complicated.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/23 03:47 AM
1

That’s… a whole lot of twisting my words to make me out like a bad person. I never said I don’t like or even love the women I’ve been in relationships with - just that I wasn’t choosy. Ideally, my partner would be into the same things as me, or share more in interest. But I’d have to be choosy for that and risk being lonely vs not being choosy, being with someone I like, even if there’s a measure of incompatibility there. That doesn’t mean treating them like they’re disposable either, or being w…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/23 03:45 AM
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I’m young, and it is that bad for me at least. If I start being choosy I’m gonna continue to not have a relationship and reach certain milestones in life that I want to reach and haven’t yet. Basically, I don’t want to be a virgin forever, so I can’t afford to be choosy. It’s not an option for me personally
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/23 10:04 PM
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If you screen out the “loser women” you might be lonely and celibate for far longer than otherwise. Loneliness and celibacy suck. No thanks. That doesn’t necessarily lead to magically meeting nicer and more compatible women, either.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/23 10:02 PM
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Don’t know how to fix those problems though, and I don’t understand what those traits are and I honestly don’t think I’m capable of learning those attractive traits.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/23 09:59 PM
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Why do you think they’re connected? Either way, if I’m choosy I’m going to be sad and lonely for longer than if I’m not. Fuck that. I can’t afford to be choosy. Who knows how long I’ll be lonely if I’m choosy.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/23 09:57 PM
2

Because they’re attar five and don’t set off the ick, that’s why. It’s not rocket science and it’s not necessarily bad, either
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/23 09:54 PM
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Might be a generational disconnect then. Things aren’t the same as they were two decades ago let alone however long it was since you were in your 20s
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/23 09:53 PM
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You’re not using your friend group as a dating pool if that attraction comes naturally after spending time with and getting to know someone, don’t be ridiculous.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/23 09:51 PM
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Not so much sex for me, and for a lot of men. It’s everything else in a relationship. Comfort, companionship, love. If I’m choosy, I go without that stuff for who knows how long because it’s harder for men to find relationships, or at least me. I can’t afford to be choosy because otherwise I’m lonely.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/23 09:49 PM
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You ever hear the analogy that if sex is drinking water, men are in a desert and women are in a swamp? It would really help if you at least tried to empathize with the opposite sex instead of instantly dismissing a woman’s firsthand experience that you yourself can never experience. That’s how basic human empathy works my guy. Don’t be so bitter
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/23 02:57 PM
1

Which is a pretty cruel thing to say when that effects their loneliness and negative feelings
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/23 05:52 PM
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She stated she likes men who can get it but dont ergo the reasonable assumption is because she might think it’s gross.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/23 10:43 AM
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Red pillers don’t want healthy relationships, they want to play women.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/23 05:48 AM
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Or cus she thinks it’s gross. Y’all don’t have all the answers to everything
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/23 05:21 AM
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It’s not irrational not to like someone for seemingly no reason. And that’s not even what it is when someone doesn’t vibe with you like you said. It’s just, you’re there, and they’re there. They don’t like or dislike you more often than not.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/23 10:42 AM
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Men without a social life turn into asocial losers. Everyone needs friends and if you can’t make any, that’s on you.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/23 04:23 AM
1

Is that because your answer is gonna be batshit insane and something totally evil?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/23 05:51 AM
1

Not at the expense of their freedom. They’d be government slaves at that point.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/23 05:45 AM
1

“Still think light has a speed” Okay genius. Why is every physicist on the planet wrong? What’s the other nonsense? The Earth being round and older than 6000 years? And science isn’t a belief like religion is, because religion is baseless, personal, and impossible to prove. Science produced this website and the phone I’m typing on. It isn’t a religion, it’s a logical approach to problems and questions. And I’d rather not know answers like the meaning of life or what have you than believe in some…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/23 05:43 AM
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It’s not a basic instinct my guy. You think animals give a shit?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/23 05:37 AM
1

…why is that a bad thing though lol. Men do need to be better. Women do, too. Everyone needs to be better.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/23 02:17 PM
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You forgot the fourth - the ones that don’t think like this at all and don’t think feminism demonizes men anywhere near as much as you think it does
/r/MensRights08/04/23 01:16 PM
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No, that’s because dudes are horny and will fuck anything my guy. You know that as well as me lol. It’s not an issue of empathy, dudes will fuck a creepy girl given the chance if they meet their standard. Women won’t. Simple as that. Do you need reasons for that, or can you think that one through?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/23 08:32 PM
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No, I do see something wrong with that. I just also see something wrong with most of you guys, and it’s usually a lot harsher from what I’ve seen. Very disproportionate, a lot of anger and bitterness which just isn’t good for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/23 06:05 PM
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You’re also balls deep in this kind of thinking. You probably see it, and don’t see anything wrong with it. I think of it like the adage that racists don’t realize their racist, as somewhat of a comparison.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/23 04:58 PM
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Then I guess you stay stagnating maybe? Idk man, it was just a suggestion.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/23 02:56 PM
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That’s a very limited and tame description of the RP, and from the perspective of a dude. Maybe listen to why women don’t like it, without bias if you’re capable of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/23 02:42 PM
1

It’s really not, tho. There’s so much more toxicity from red pillers and incels my guy, if you look through some of their forums with your rose colored lenses off you’d see that
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/23 02:41 PM
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It absolutely is toxic, and the wall is an example of that. Every time it’s brought up, it’s brought up in spite, and like mockery.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/23 02:39 PM
1

Hard to believe you don’t get it. It’s a red flag, unfortunately, and a big one. It means to the girl that it’s possible the guys a virgin because he’s a creep, or weird, or any number of things that would make her uncomfortable. That’s just the way it is in this world, because women constantly think about danger they might end up in. But the neat thing is, you don’t have to mention it. Unless she corners you in a post relationship conversation, there’s nothing compelling you to bring it up.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/23 02:38 PM
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Ok dude. This is why people make fun of incels, btw. Crazy shit like this
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/23 02:21 PM
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Not what I said. He can ask for a hook up sure, but look where that got him. Because bluntly asking like that is creepy. So he can do it, fine, but he shouldn’t. Because it’s creepy and women don’t like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/23 01:48 PM
1

My short friend has dated far hotter women than me because he’s funny and charismatic, and dudes like 5’5 or 5’4. Maybe if you leave the echo chambers you’re in you won’t be so bitter and stuck in your own reality.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/23 05:57 AM
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No lol what was creepy about his behavior was complaining about his loneliness and bluntly asking for a hook up my guy. It’s not that complicated.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/23 05:55 AM
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Exactly. For all we know, when they talk to women they can be the biggest creeps on Earth doing shit like asking for a hook up immediately out of nowhere in the middle of a non-sexual conversation
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/23 04:25 AM
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This chain perfectly encapsulates why these people stay that way - they refuse to listen to womens lived experiences in favor of whatever they see online made by equally bitter men and the occasional grifter
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/23 04:21 AM
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Because incels don’t believe personality matters, even though if they worked on their usually garbage and toxic personalities they’d be a lot happier.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/23 04:09 AM
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Missed the point entirely - the dude had a date, but was creepy, so the date went nowhere. Most dudes are creepy like this and don’t even realize it.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/23 04:08 AM
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I used to be super depressed I’d never get to live this life. Fuck it, I still am, but I used to be too.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/23 04:07 AM
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I wouldn’t want a relationship with someone where the major reason they’re with me is because I have money. I have enough of a backbone to not let that happen
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/23 03:55 AM
1

Dude this comment just sounds like bitterness. As if average height and short guys don’t have relationships
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/23 03:50 AM
2

Because it really is as simple as “dudes are horny and will fuck anything. Women are horny and won’t fuck anything” and there’s nothing wrong w that, just the way it’s always been.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/23 07:21 AM
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So just admitting to a sociopathic lack of empathy because you’re bitter? Go outside bro
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/23 10:54 PM
1

It’s that and a bit of what you said at the end - if she’s been with more people, she might be more judge mental if the sex is bad. Reeks of insecurity
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/23 10:10 AM
5

It would just become the most racist thing you’ve ever seen, like that twitter bot that adapted based off every tweet
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/23 10:09 AM
6

I don’t agree with OOP but you misread his comment completely and didn’t understand the point
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/23 10:08 AM
1

I’m inclined to agree, given I supported the quarantine protocols, but I don’t think this is a society issue as much as you do.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/23 07:16 AM
0

Sure, shame all you want. That’s your right. Just don’t make it law, because then that breaks other peoples rights.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/23 07:07 AM
0

Enforced discipline is oppression. People are free to be as disciplined as they want to be.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/23 05:52 AM
3

Have you ever taken care of several kids ranging from infant to like 5 years old before? That shits rough, even if they are your kids. Your pompous attitude is probably holding you back in your life
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/23 05:28 AM
2

Well sex feels good and people like it. Not everyone sees it like you do my guy and that’s OK
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/23 01:01 PM
1

Sounds like a man who’s feelings were hurt. Sucks for you. Why do you think feminism came about if not the existence of a previous patriarchy my guy?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/23 12:32 PM
3

Eh, good-intended oppression is still oppression. Maybe women can smell this opinion on your mind and that’s why they don’t want you :/
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/23 11:30 AM
3

So what’s your solution? Go back sixty or eighty years and remove female autonomy? That sounds, frankly, barbaric.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/23 11:29 AM
2

Forcing women to do anything is bad, actually. Freedom is, in fact, good.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/23 11:27 AM
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Maybe because flesh and blood women are still people you can talk to / actually emotionally bond with? There’s more to them than their pussy and if they can cook / clean in a traditional way my guy
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/23 11:24 AM
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Clothes that fit properly make you look more attractive my guy
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/23 11:23 AM
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Keeping people in unhappy marriages is barbaric frankly. These are stupid ideas.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/23 11:20 AM
2

Cus you’re in the UK lol that’s why
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/23 11:12 AM
1

More like normal person mentality but go off
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/23 06:46 AM
1

Yeah the toxicity here is super hot, not to mention his thinly veiled rage against women for the crime of…being women.
/r/AntiFeminists10/03/23 08:20 AM
1

That’s not what I was getting at, I was saying tell the guy you’re fucking what you like and it’ll probably be better
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/23 05:46 PM
1

Well that’s also one of the best ways to meet women looking for relationships, so I guess that’s your loss all around
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/23 07:43 AM
2

Or in case he becomes a monster or was always a monster and hiding it
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/23 07:40 AM
1

That’s the problem therein. Most of these guys who want a SAHM want her doing all the hard house stuff. On top of that, and taking care of the kid(s) all day they probably wouldn’t even get laid because their wife is too tired all the time, which makes it funnier to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/23 07:39 AM
1

That’s a very one-sided view of stay at Home dynamics.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/23 07:35 AM
1

Exactly. If the guy becomes a total asshole a year after a kid, the moms fucked.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/23 07:33 AM
1

…did you ever consider that they were also studying, or simply smarter than you? Who am I kidding, of course you didn’t.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/23 07:24 AM
0

He’s probably also funnier than you and better at holding conversations. There’s more areas you could be failing on other than just your appearance
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/23 07:19 AM
2

Dating apps in general are a scam, and always unhealthy for mens confidence for this very reason. There’s also probably 10x more dudes than girls as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/23 07:18 AM
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You’re right, people weren’t “forced” to accept it. In many places it was and is criminalized and people were killed or completely ostracized for it. Alan Turing is a good example of this. You sound really hateful. Calling it crap, shit etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/23 07:11 AM
2

That’s why communication is a good thing even with a ONS. If a guy was trying or doesn’t know any better than to hump till he busts, that’s on you for not saying “I like (sexual act)”
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/23 06:44 AM
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Yikes dude. Just all around yikes. “Other than sex I can’t think of any real use for [women]” is such a weird thing to say man and a weird way to think tbh
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/23 06:39 AM
1

Your job. Your hobbies. Go outside and join a club or something, there’s ways to make friends now more so than ever before.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/23 06:38 AM
2

We acknowledge aging exists, that’s not the discussion. Saying “less tarnished” when referring to a person is a pretty weird thing to do.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/23 03:48 PM
1

Sex feels good, actually, and both genders like having it.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/23 05:57 AM
1

That wouldn’t be good for most dudes. Not even the hostile toxic ones, more so the quiet and average ones.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/23 05:56 AM
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Less-tarnished is a weird af way to describe women bro
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/23 05:34 AM
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Why does mens respect matter tho? Idgaf if anybody respects me. Why are you being so hostile and confrontational? Trying to slut shame an internet stranger because you don’t like that she has a lot of sex
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/23 05:17 AM
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