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9	Sexism is bad, and “decentering” men and women leads to sexist echo chambers.	Debate	avocadolanche3000	/r/PurplePillDebate	31/05/26 06:54 PM

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1	Is working for a living more traumatizing than being sexually assaulted? I actually really like my job. Maybe it’s the framing of “having to work.” Toiling under capitalism sounds like much more of a chore than having unenthusiastic sex. If I had to do it forty hours a week it’d probably be equally soul crushing.	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/06/26 08:00 PM
3	Is working for a living more traumatizing than being sexually assaulted? Regarding your last point, people have sex for all kinds of reasons. It is their unimpeachable right to consent or refuse consent for whatever reasons they want. Treating other people’s consent like it is open to interpretation and critique implies that the individual isn’t mentally competent to make informed consent, or know whether they consented. The threshold for deciding whether or not someone else’s consent counts should be reserved for people who actually cannot consent, like minors and t…	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/06/26 03:07 PM
2	Is working for a living more traumatizing than being sexually assaulted? Why would that comparison be better? Edit: or, to clarify, are you saying having to work is the equivalent of getting fucked in the ass?	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/06/26 02:22 PM
2	Is working for a living more traumatizing than being sexually assaulted? Would you still be ok with duty sex… I think as far as hypotheticals go, it has to be “all things being equal.” If the question is “would you rather have injurious duty sex or work an injurious job” then as long as the injuries are equivalent I would probably take duty sex. I’ve had plenty of duty sex. I’ve done it to be nice to an unattractive stranger, I’ve done it as relationship maintenance when I felt pressured by a partner, I’ve done it when I had a migraine (admittedly that time k had to …	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/06/26 02:10 PM
4	Is working for a living more traumatizing than being sexually assaulted? The appropriate analogy would be slavery, not voluntary work, since we’re talking about something non-consensual. I’d rather have duty sex, which I do not enjoy and do not want (but do consent to) than work (which I also consent to). With slavery, that depends a lot on how torturous the slavery is.	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/06/26 01:36 PM
2	Women find good men sexually appealing The “evil vampire,” isn’t a bad guy. He’s a misunderstood good guy.	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/06/26 03:16 AM
-2	In 2026; The patriarchy is real, broadly promoted by both sides equally, broadly harms both sides equally, and isn't that big of a problem. Because social media platforms are peddling it to them as rage bait. Same with the general rise of fascism across the globe. I don’t think people in authoritarian countries are better off, but I think authoritarians do a good job convincing them to fear those who are different from them, and that it’s in their interest to seed power over to the ruling class to protect them.	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/06/26 11:48 PM
5	Campaigns such as "Nuclear Family Month" are part of a broader effort to promote traditional gender and family roles. I think “oppression” is too strong a word, but that this is by design. I think it is essentially meant to stoke culture wars by getting progressives to complain about it in click baity ways.	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/06/26 11:18 PM
4	In 2026; The patriarchy is real, broadly promoted by both sides equally, broadly harms both sides equally, and isn't that big of a problem. It frames heterosexual relationships as inherently adversarial and transactional, which harms people. It disempowers women to make choices about their reproductive rights, which harms people. It enforces social constructs at the expense of free expression, which harms people. It stigmatizes gender non-conformance, which harms people. It discourages cross gender empathy, which foments gender war rhetoric, which harms people. It creates double standards for men and women, which harms people. It no…	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/06/26 11:15 PM
9	Campaigns such as "Nuclear Family Month" are part of a broader effort to promote traditional gender and family roles. Agreed. I think it’s fine to be able to apply a feminist lens to things. But it shouldn’t be your only lens for understanding the world. You should be able to apply a critical race theory lens, or a humanist lens, or a sex positive lens, or a Marxist lens, or whatever other kind of lens to critique different things. I think when people find one lens and then use that exclusively, and allow everything they perceive to be filtered through this one perspective that confirms their bias, they get rea…	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/06/26 11:05 PM
16	Campaigns such as "Nuclear Family Month" are part of a broader effort to promote traditional gender and family roles. I saw that the CompHet argument has been banned as blackpill, largely because blackpill appropriates CompHet into something delusional and insane (an assertion that women do not actually desire men, and that they only go along with heterosexual relationships, basically because they lack the ability to make decisions for themselves). But it’s worth noting that this push for “Nuclear Family Month” is an expression of Compulsory Heteronormativity, and a good example of what feminists are addressing…	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/06/26 10:44 PM
2	My Perspective on the Sexualization of Women in Media “If people weren’t so vulgar, the government wouldn’t have to impose censorship. We just need to encourage people to watch what they say so these 1A laws stop being necessary.”	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/06/26 06:19 PM
2	Relationships are downplayed too often I think this is actually just a miscommunication caused by what we mean when we say “important.” I think sex is a healthy and important part of living a full life. I do not think it is “important” that people love their sexual partners, or only have sex with people whom they truly love. The anti-choice people think the opposite. But you could say we both think “sex is important,” or that neither of us think “sex is important,” depending on whether you mean it in like a spiritual/moral way or not…	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/06/26 02:41 PM
9	Relationships are downplayed too often How is it incoherent? They’re saying that people overstate the risk of getting into a bad relationship and minimize the benefits of being in a good relationship.	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/06/26 01:48 PM
2	Why do men slut-shaming? True. Different people respond differently to different meds. But I think that it’s common to experience a huge drop in libido, and a significant fraction of people are in them. But I listed that possibility after because, while I think it could contribute, I think the cultural elements that prevent people from deconstructing their internalized sex negativity are probably a better explanation.	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/06/26 11:56 AM
0	N COUNTS WEEKLY DISCUSSION THREAD Kinks are different for everyone. My ex was a cuckqueen and I think for her it was more about how other women being attracted to me made me more attractive to her. It’s mimetic desire, if that makes sense. I think for a lot of cucks it’s half about having a desirable woman and “showing her off.” For some more traditional swinger couples it’s about the one partner sort of pulling the other out as a power thing between them. But even for more traditional hotwife/cuck couples I don’t think it’s alw…	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/06/26 10:08 PM
6	If you remove or Ignore the "mens fault" and "woman are beutiful" whats left? I agree with all this, but also feel that a lot of it is bot driven activity intended to sow division between men and women and foster sexist societal attitudes, which play into a conservative agenda. Edit: so it isn’t just that people are more online, like you say, but that the algorithm they meet online is intended to create hostility towards the people they’d date	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/06/26 08:29 PM
5	A vast chunk of pro-women takes on Reddit are actually just benevolent sexism. I like that there was immediately an example of what I added in my original comment: The common “that makes you a misogynist” rebuttal to any point challenging benign sexism also reinforces this point by tacitly implying that women need an “automatic win” button wherever gender politics are debated. As if women aren’t capable of understanding their own hypocrisy or sexism coming from other women.	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/06/26 05:50 PM
9	A vast chunk of pro-women takes on Reddit are actually just benevolent sexism. Ah I did. I need my espresso	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/06/26 05:18 PM
8	A vast chunk of pro-women takes on Reddit are actually just benevolent sexism. I disagree that “women are just as capable of STEM work as men” is an example of benign sexism. Men may select into these roles in greater numbers or more men have a natural proclivity toward them, but there’s nothing about a woman’s womanliness or a man’s manliness that changes whether their math is right or wrong, and no reason a woman can’t win a Nobel prize in physics or something. Otherwise I agree that most pro-woman content supports basically coddling women and implying a handicap, which …	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/06/26 05:07 PM
3	Why do men slut-shaming? Who knows what that’s about. It’s probably a combo of things. Growing up under #MeToo, growing up online with very little privacy, and feigning disgust and discomfort around sex to fit in until it became a reflex. I theorize that basically everyone is raised sex negative, since it’s just easier to instill in kids a sense of discomfort and fear about sex than it would be to disentangle everything in a sex positive way. But a side effect is that as people mature into their sexual selves, they have…	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/06/26 04:42 PM
-1	N COUNTS WEEKLY DISCUSSION THREAD I think that is the root of most people’s cuckold fetish. But also, so what? People swing, and honestly it’s a cheap insult to throw around and who cares if a couple wants to screw around and can handle it. I think marrying one person and only fucking them for the rest of your life sounds boring.	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/06/26 04:24 PM
4	Women are being scammed by the empowerment industry harder than men are by red pill, and it's not even close It is scary how few women recognize that an ideology telling them that they’re society’s victims and that everything is men’s fault is obviously delusional propaganda. And it’s weird to me that so few take offense to the infantilizing and disempowering implications of believing that they’re powerless in their own lives. I sort of feel like the powerless feeling a lot of feminists seem to adopt (I.e. “what? It doesn’t matter, it’s just my opinion) is reflective of increasing wage disparity making…	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/06/26 04:14 PM
3	Why do men slut-shaming? FWIW I’m a very sex positive dude. I feel like I see sex negativity more from women than men.	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/06/26 03:50 PM
–	Red Pill and SheraSeven Content Are More Similar Than Different But that’s just not how happiness works, generally. The idea that your happiness is contingent on your partner’s contributions seems like it wouldn’t even benefit the abuser, not long term anyway.	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/06/26 07:25 PM
2	Red Pill and SheraSeven Content Are More Similar Than Different Why would that be true at all?	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/06/26 11:21 AM
5	Red Pill and SheraSeven Content Are More Similar Than Different What is SheraSeven’s message? I’m not familiar.	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/06/26 11:01 PM
0	Misandry is more prevalent than misogyny Misogynists can’t exist without misandry. Both require a buy in of gender essentialism, meaning you can’t really believe one sex is superior to the other without internalizing a bunch of sexist beliefs about both genders.	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/06/26 10:42 PM
–	The stigma around financially-providing relationships Well, when I got out of that relationship I got really into kink. I went on kinky dating sites and met partners for the express purpose of doing kinky things together. And I learned a whole lot. It s given me this perspective: kink is a dark reflection of dynamics that already exist in the vanilla world. It’s an exaggeration, subversion, or inversion of the gender roles and expectations that come with regular dating, like a man paying for dinner, a woman blowing a guy she’s excited about, spooni…	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/06/26 10:33 PM
-1	You can't effectively fight feminism without harming interests of women *Except it reinforces patriarchy by framing sexism as a valid feminist principal, and encouraging people to accept sexist narratives as reasonable mainstream beliefs. This person’s post wouldn’t exist if the average feminist wasn’t more “anti-male” than they are “anti-sexism.”	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/06/26 03:59 PM
-2	You can't effectively fight feminism without harming interests of women I appreciate your response. If I can elaborate a little (since I tried to keep my original response short and sort of failed). I recognize what is being discussed with “duty sex” as a valid issue that plenty of women experience. The issue I take with this framing, with the scope and severity of what is being talked about. Typically, when a question around this comes up, plenty of women will say “look I’m not always in the mood but I’ll sometimes have sex with my partner because I love them and i…	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/06/26 12:09 PM
0	You can't effectively fight feminism without harming interests of women I’ve had plenty of arguments with feminists in this sub arguing that feminism is specifically not egalitarian. Feminism changed when it was co-opted by radical exclusionary feminism. I’m not sure how familiar you are with radical feminism, but rather than opposing sexism, it essentially leans into it, weaponizing sex based discrimination to harm men. But if that sounds too abstract, here are some of the radfem ideas that have gone mainstream: “Man vs bear” (what’s radfem about it? It legitimizes…	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/06/26 11:40 AM
1	You can't effectively fight feminism without harming interests of women Not all women are feminists. It’s currently an uphill battle because for a long time feminism was associated with liberal feminism and egalitarianism, basically a human rights movement. Now, kids are growing up under a feminism that rejects egalitarianism and progressive values. Progressive values will always be popular with younger generations. The women acting like sexist hypocrites, shrieking about porn and kink and age gaps, and bashing men will almost certainly fall out of fashion as kids g…	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/06/26 11:21 AM
1	The stigma around financially-providing relationships To answer your original question a little more in depth, my first LTR in my mid twenties I dated a barista graduating college. I had a corporate job and loved treating her to dates and movies. She loved it as well, and she loved little trinkets and things. A ginger ale from the corner store even lit her up. I didn’t think of this as a sugar baby style relationship. I don’t even think of us as “kinky.” I stayed making more money than her for the vast majority of our relationship, but got an oppor…	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/06/26 12:28 AM
1	The stigma around financially-providing relationships I enjoy this sub, but I think it skews reactionary/conservative. Misogynists will hate you for being a “gold digger” and misandrists will hate you for disempowering women by giving up your financial independence (which it doesn’t sound like you’re doing). I think two consenting adults should be allowed to do whatever they want, and the only people who should get a say are the people in the relationship.	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/06/26 07:37 PM
2	Why do you think some women feel entitled to fight men without retaliation? This is, I believe, the correct answer. It’s also true that generally speaking dudes have a physiological advantage in defending themselves, and that they could easily disproportionately harm a woman attacking them. So even if in principal they’re “just defending themselves,” they should almost never resort to hitting back. So from a dude’s perspective, yes it is an injustice but you just have to recognize why it exists and do your best to avoid women who might exploit social perceptions that wa…	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/06/26 03:40 PM
1	Women are so attracted to confidence because they're looking for someone to compensate for their own lack of confidence. When you point this out, women will change the meaning of confidence to, "Someone who's not insecure, something we should all want!" Not a fan of slut shaming. Also, I’m a man and I certainly don’t prefer “virtuous” women. I prefer fun, free spirited women. Especially those who have sex for fun and pleasure. I couldn’t marry a sex negative woman	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/06/26 03:14 PM
1	The stigma around financially-providing relationships People like to police others’ sex lives. Especially where love and romance is concerned, they find it icky if someone’s relationship style deviates from a heteronormative script.	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/06/26 02:44 PM
8	Negative experiences can make it easy to assume the worst about an entire group, even when those experiences don't represent everyone. Yeah, there’s a strong “sex = sin” undertone	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/06/26 02:42 PM
1	Women are so attracted to confidence because they're looking for someone to compensate for their own lack of confidence. When you point this out, women will change the meaning of confidence to, "Someone who's not insecure, something we should all want!" Purity myths (like that women really are chaste little saints who only reluctantly and trepidatiously explore their sexuality) are being pushed. You don’t have to explore sexuality very long to realize that women are equally freaky. Everyone’s different, but men don’t have a monopoly on that.	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/06/26 01:03 PM
1	Women are so attracted to confidence because they're looking for someone to compensate for their own lack of confidence. When you point this out, women will change the meaning of confidence to, "Someone who's not insecure, something we should all want!" I like this logic because I search for women who are less virtuous and moral than me.	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/06/26 12:48 PM
1	Sexism is bad, and “decentering” men and women leads to sexist echo chambers. This content was anonymized and mass deleted with Redact	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/06/26 11:40 PM
1	The male/female sexlessness gap is the result of net biological differences playing out over a free sexual marketplace I think that it’s both a larger share of women having less romantic contact with men in favor of women, as well as heterofatalistic messaging encouraging women to present as (and possibly respond to surveys as) less straight. I think it’s a bit of a feedback loop.	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/06/26 10:50 PM
1	Sexism is bad, and “decentering” men and women leads to sexist echo chambers. This content was anonymized and mass deleted with Redact	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/06/26 10:44 PM
1	Sexism is bad, and “decentering” men and women leads to sexist echo chambers. This content was anonymized and mass deleted with Redact	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/06/26 04:26 PM
1	Sexism is bad, and “decentering” men and women leads to sexist echo chambers. This content was anonymized and mass deleted with Redact	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/06/26 04:20 PM
1	Sexism is bad, and “decentering” men and women leads to sexist echo chambers. This content was anonymized and mass deleted with Redact	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/06/26 03:43 PM
1	Sexism is bad, and “decentering” men and women leads to sexist echo chambers. This content was anonymized and mass deleted with Redact	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/06/26 01:02 PM
1	Sexism is bad, and “decentering” men and women leads to sexist echo chambers. This content was anonymized and mass deleted with Redact	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/06/26 12:45 PM
0	Sexism is bad, and “decentering” men and women leads to sexist echo chambers. This content was anonymized and mass deleted with Redact	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/06/26 11:49 AM
6	Men want all the upside of being women without any downsides and call it "female privilege" I think certain women suggest negative sexual experiences are more common than they are as a way to tar men. It’s an easy third rail issue, and they can just pretend that anyone questioning it is sexist.	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/06/26 11:47 AM
1	Sexism is bad, and “decentering” men and women leads to sexist echo chambers. I think “decentering” messaging is where manosphere and femosphere pipelines start, because that is where they start. That’s the algorithm. It’s memes telling boys that a real man doesn’t succumb to lust, or that the key to a woman’s heart is getting rich so they should focus on that instead. It’s instagram posts telling girls not to be pick-mes. And it’s a convenient entry point for people to frame subsequent sexism as part of a self help journey decentering the opposite gender (by consistently…	/r/PurplePillDebate	31/05/26 09:47 PM
1	Sexism is bad, and “decentering” men and women leads to sexist echo chambers. This content was anonymized and mass deleted with Redact	/r/PurplePillDebate	31/05/26 09:34 PM
-1	Sexism is bad, and “decentering” men and women leads to sexist echo chambers. This content was anonymized and mass deleted with Redact	/r/PurplePillDebate	31/05/26 09:26 PM
2	Sexism is bad, and “decentering” men and women leads to sexist echo chambers. This content was anonymized and mass deleted with Redact	/r/PurplePillDebate	31/05/26 09:23 PM
1	Sexism is bad, and “decentering” men and women leads to sexist echo chambers. This content was anonymized and mass deleted with Redact	/r/PurplePillDebate	31/05/26 09:15 PM
0	Sexism is bad, and “decentering” men and women leads to sexist echo chambers. This content was anonymized and mass deleted with Redact	/r/PurplePillDebate	31/05/26 09:01 PM
0	Sexism is bad, and “decentering” men and women leads to sexist echo chambers. This content was anonymized and mass deleted with Redact	/r/PurplePillDebate	31/05/26 08:56 PM
2	Sexism is bad, and “decentering” men and women leads to sexist echo chambers. This content was anonymized and mass deleted with Redact	/r/PurplePillDebate	31/05/26 08:49 PM
0	Sexism is bad, and “decentering” men and women leads to sexist echo chambers. This content was anonymized and mass deleted with Redact	/r/PurplePillDebate	31/05/26 08:46 PM
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1	Sexism is bad, and “decentering” men and women leads to sexist echo chambers. This content was anonymized and mass deleted with Redact	/r/PurplePillDebate	31/05/26 08:35 PM
0	Sexism is bad, and “decentering” men and women leads to sexist echo chambers. This content was anonymized and mass deleted with Redact	/r/PurplePillDebate	31/05/26 08:33 PM
1	Sexism is bad, and “decentering” men and women leads to sexist echo chambers. This content was anonymized and mass deleted with Redact	/r/PurplePillDebate	31/05/26 08:31 PM
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1	Sexism is bad, and “decentering” men and women leads to sexist echo chambers. This content was anonymized and mass deleted with Redact	/r/PurplePillDebate	31/05/26 07:59 PM
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1	Could the sexual objectification of women actually have had a role in the rise of the manosphere? It does entail being critical of sex negativity, including demonizing people for their sexuality. It does entail respecting people’s sexual liberties. It isn’t inherently wrong for a man to perceive of a woman sexually for the same reason that it isn’t inherently wrong for a woman to perceive of a woman sexually. In both cases. The raw perception of a person as a sexual object is not an attack, offense, or insult on that person. Objectification” connotes the thought crime of reducing women to th…	/r/PurplePillDebate	31/05/26 07:04 PM
1	Could the sexual objectification of women actually have had a role in the rise of the manosphere? Sex positivity is the basis for accepting LGBTQ+ people, and a big part of intersectionality. Meeting halfway is just being half a bigot. Internalizing the belief that women are automatically victims in everything undercuts any feminist argument. Hence the rise in manosphere content that your post asks about. So yes, “objectification” has led to the rise in red pill. Just not in the way that you thought. It’s because men recognize an antagonistic push against their very sexuality, and respond by…	/r/PurplePillDebate	31/05/26 04:23 PM
1	Could the sexual objectification of women actually have had a role in the rise of the manosphere? I mean, if you’re a good faith actor, consider this from a sex positive perspective. Traditional conservative values hold that women need to restrict their own sexual impulses to maintain their purity. The flip of that, sex negativity directed at men, justifies this view of female sexuality as some essential purity that is under constant threat. Women must wear hijabs (in the extreme) to avoid enticing men, who are universally one nil slip away from raping women. It becomes incumbent upon women …	/r/PurplePillDebate	31/05/26 04:02 PM
2	Could the sexual objectification of women actually have had a role in the rise of the manosphere? Not at all. I’m disagreeing with your assertion that sexual objectification is used to mean the narrow definition you provide. Anyone outside of misandrist echo chambers would agree that objectification is broadly used to vilify male sexuality, which is why this post is so ratioed (2 upvotes and hundreds of comments). If you only interact with feminist women, you won’t get pushback. If you discuss “objectification” sincerely with men, every man will tell you they get what I’m saying about object…	/r/PurplePillDebate	31/05/26 03:38 PM
1	Could the sexual objectification of women actually have had a role in the rise of the manosphere? Why would any man be feminist when even feminists use “male feminist” as an insult?	/r/PurplePillDebate	31/05/26 03:32 PM
1	Could the sexual objectification of women actually have had a role in the rise of the manosphere? Except that isn’t how “objectification” is discussed at all. For instance, the outcry about Euphoria “objectifying” women isn’t about actual people being harmed. Its arguments that the depiction of women being sexualized harms women as a population. That distinction is important, because the implication is that male audiences harm all women everywhere on an essential level simply by witnessing women being sexualized. And this is how “objectification theory” operates in a societal level. It reinf…	/r/PurplePillDebate	31/05/26 02:54 PM
1	Could the sexual objectification of women actually have had a role in the rise of the manosphere? Yes it is. The outcry about the male gaze and objectification is just how society slut shames men. Implicit in that shaming is the fundamentalist belief that male sexuality is inherently harmful to female purity. When you say that blue pill has a lot in common with red pill (which it doesn’t, unless you count sexist blue pillers. Which I don’t), the commonalities you are references are an alignment in sex negativity and sexist beliefs. Radfems and red pillers hate sex workers. Radfems and red pi…	/r/PurplePillDebate	31/05/26 02:24 PM
2	Could the sexual objectification of women actually have had a role in the rise of the manosphere? I understand you perfectly. What you are saying blue pill and red/black pill have in common is gender essentialism. I call that sexism. It’s sex based discrimination that relies on an understanding of sex as inherently harmful to women, which gives red pill men license to act like domineering provider/protectors and it gives blue pill women license to never own any accountability. That is what I am saying I fully reject, and the explanation above is why I reject it. I’m blue pill because I belie…	/r/PurplePillDebate	31/05/26 01:43 AM
0	Could the sexual objectification of women actually have had a role in the rise of the manosphere? No. I fully reject that argument. It’s puritan bullshit on par with saying “women ruin themselves with sex.” Women who screech about objectification have the same logic as men who act personally attacked by women being “slutty.” It’s just indoctrination	/r/PurplePillDebate	31/05/26 12:07 AM
2	Could the sexual objectification of women actually have had a role in the rise of the manosphere? I think problematizing all male sexuality by calling it objectification definitely contributes to young men turning to red pill answers. Genuinely, why would you listen to someone who tells you that your sexuality is inherently predatory, coercive, and bad?	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/05/26 11:43 PM
2	Do Women Understand How They Help Power Red Pill/Manosphere Content? Word. Good luck not letting the sour voices sour you. It honestly can be difficult not to. I genuinely think gender essentialism is the bane of our times and the principal thing to attack to deescalate gender war rhetoric. If men could have a way of discussing gender politics that isn’t de facto framed as misogyny, then most men would side with gender equality politics.	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/05/26 04:45 PM
4	Do Women Understand How They Help Power Red Pill/Manosphere Content? Just want to say as a liberal progressive dude who understands the interplay of hostile and benevolent sexism, you’re 100% right. It’s a shame that so many women clearly do NOT understand why regurgitating hostile sexism reinforces a broader culture of gender essentialism, and why this would push men away from feminism/liberalism. Another consequence is basically that progressive men dont have a voice in gender politics, so it’s just radfems vs manosphere gurus. Obviously young men will skew tow…	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/05/26 01:39 PM
0	Love and sex is so tied to individuals that you cannot debate it within a societal context SWERF arguments often do. Funny, that	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/05/26 05:54 PM
4	Do Women Understand How They Help Power Red Pill/Manosphere Content? I don’t buy it. Hate is hate and people saying “men created misandry” make regular feminism look hysterical, hypocritical, and unpopular.	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/05/26 04:05 PM
1	Do Women Understand How They Help Power Red Pill/Manosphere Content? Correct, I think framing sexism as an appropriate feminist response is hypocritical, because feminism is necessarily founded on principals of gender equality. I.e. misandrists co-opting feminism does a disservice to feminism, because it undercuts feminist messaging. Edit: I think the appropriate response is for anti-sexists to call out sexism from misogynists and misandrists alike.	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/05/26 03:47 PM
2	Do Women Understand How They Help Power Red Pill/Manosphere Content? No. The appropriate response would be to call out sexism without reciprocating it. Responding to sexism with equal sexism in the opposite direction undercuts actual feminist messaging by reinforcing patriarchal gender ideals. I.e. it presumes gender essentialism is valid	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/05/26 03:00 PM
1	Orgasm gap is just experience gap. I’m curious what the script is that you’ve found works.	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/05/26 12:40 PM
2	Orgasm gap is just experience gap. Not to be pedantic, but I’d say that the script you’re describing is more of an approach to sex, a better understanding of what sex is. By that I mean it isn’t “spell the ABC’s with your tongue,” “start with rhythmic, slow thrusts and build to deep, hard grinding” or anything physical. And it isn’t even just “do chores and the dishes so she’ll find you attractive,” either. I’m a male slut, and the variability is real. Some women like nipple torture while others hate any attention given to their …	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/05/26 12:28 PM
2	Orgasm gap is just experience gap. I don’t think it is. But I do think it’s more common for women to struggle to achieve orgasm for a variety of reasons: A greater percentage of women face physiological impediments. Women have more variability in what gets them off, physically and mentally. The default heteronormative view of sex expects men to “just know” how to get women off (despite women’s higher variability in what works for them) while women are socialized to withhold critique (e.g. faking orgasms. But this contributes to a…	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/05/26 11:06 AM
1	Orgasm gap is just experience gap. People already center orgasms as the purpose of sex though. Most people’s sexual health would improve if they decentered orgasming (at least for themselves) rather than stressing it as the purpose of sex and implying that sex is only valid if orgasm is achieved.	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/05/26 10:26 AM
9	The male/female sexlessness gap is the result of net biological differences playing out over a free sexual marketplace That Gallup poll found that “28.5% [of Gen Z women] identify as LGBTQ+, compared with 10.6% of Gen Z men. Among millennials, 12.4% of women and 5.4% of men”). That’s a sizable portion of the dating market. The increase for both men and women is probably best explained by heterofatalism online. Gender wars have resulted in a large amount of men and women falling into sexist echo chambers, and consequently decentering each other. With women being more sexually fluid, a larger percent of them are h…	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/05/26 10:47 AM
1	A lot of people have very closed-minded and frankly outdated views on porn. I find it suspect that you say that you were a therapist for sex workers, but in your first response here you say your “friend” “prostituted” herself. Maybe you don’t want to say too much about a client and so framed it that way, but the sex negative sentiment underlying your comments, the presumed shade at sex workers for performing intimacy compared to “between to people who live and trust each other.” It’s entirely possible that you are a therapist and we just have different values, but if th…	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/05/26 08:31 AM
1	A lot of people have very closed-minded and frankly outdated views on porn. Where are you meeting them? Because I’ve met plenty. The vast majority of women in Only Fans aren’t full time creators. Only 1 - 5% do it 40+ hours per week.	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/05/26 12:01 AM
2	If women treat sex as a reward, men should treat his money as a reward. I think that transactional dating is common enough that if you date around, you’re bound to run into it. But the thing is, even if that’s true, what you said is right. Just don’t date transactional people if you take offense to the idea that she’s only eating with you because you’re paying, or that he’s only paying because he wants to sleep with you. Or do go into those relationship dynamics if you want to. Date the sugar baby/daddy type knowing that it’s transactional, and stand the emptiness i…	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/05/26 10:55 PM
2	A lot of people have very closed-minded and frankly outdated views on porn. That is what we are talking about, because you’re promoting this anti-porn talking point which is used to stigmatize sex work as an argument for banning it. What other industries do you speak on behalf of the workers to say that they don’t enjoy their work, and why are you the one speaking for them? Do you sincerely believe any sex workers want or appreciate you speaking for them	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/05/26 09:35 PM
6	You cannot convince me that most men deserve women's submission Precisely. A father intimidating a boy interested in his daughter is being “patriarchal,” in the same way that society is patriarchal. It’s a trope. But obviously when everybody accepts that type of behavior as normative or even good, the. You have a society that treats women like they are teenagers and that treats men like they are de facto predators. That’s patriarchy.	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/05/26 06:14 PM
2	A lot of people have very closed-minded and frankly outdated views on porn. Advocating for sex workers’ rights is not nonsense. The people spewing hate and undercutting their autonomy, promoting bans and stigmatizing their profession are absolutely causing harm to women in the sex industry, and causing societal harm by promoting sexist, infantilizing views of women’s sexuality.	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/05/26 03:15 PM
5	You cannot convince me that most men deserve women's submission Define “patriarchy.” Edit: I think to respond properly I need to know what you mean, and what you think red pillers mean. In the recent post about most people having antiquated, traditional views on porn, you have mostly “progressive” women arguing for the abolition of porn. Those women are arguing from infantilizing, sexist assumptions about women to curb their rights. That is a “pro patriarchy” stance many blue pillers hold. So to discuss deconstructing patriarchy as defended by red pillers, I…	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/05/26 01:29 PM
21	You cannot convince me that most men deserve women's submission I just think “patriarchy” gets misunderstood. “Patriarchy” as a cabal of evil men intentionally devising plans to make women submit to them isn’t a realistic understanding of how the world works. Those men exist (like the architects of project 2025). But that misunderstands how patriarchy permeates day to day life for average folks, and more importantly it misses why those men exist and believe the things they do. Patriarchy is the result of sexist stereotypes about men and women that result in …	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/05/26 01:25 PM
2	A lot of people have very closed-minded and frankly outdated views on porn. Yeah, just like they’re entitled to think and say that women also shouldn’t have reproductive autonomy, or that they also shouldn’t have the right to hold office, or that they shouldn’t have the right to vote. The underlying argument, that women need to be protected from their own choices and that this is more important than allowing them bodily autonomy (because they aren’t like men. They need men to reign in their sexual decision making) is the argument used to deny them access to abortion.	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/05/26 01:14 PM
0	A lot of people have very closed-minded and frankly outdated views on porn. Because people with friends in the industry don’t talk about them like they’re victims. Your views are conservative because anti porn views are conservative, whether or not you are otherwise a progressive. Wanting to take away women’s rights is fascistic, even if you think you’re going it to protect them.	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/05/26 12:26 PM
1	A lot of people have very closed-minded and frankly outdated views on porn. Perhaps not, but they’re entitled to pursue ti for any reason they like, and they don’t need people jumping up to say them at they don’t enjoy it.	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/05/26 12:19 PM
1	A lot of people have very closed-minded and frankly outdated views on porn. I think when your ideas about an industry you have zero friends in or experience with comes from a conservative narrative under a fascist regime, you should regard black and white criticisms of it skeptically.	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/05/26 12:06 AM
2	A lot of people have very closed-minded and frankly outdated views on porn. Probably a similar proportion to the amount that get into film or music or any other entertainment to make money.	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/05/26 11:07 PM
1	A lot of people have very closed-minded and frankly outdated views on porn. I don’t believe you.	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/05/26 11:05 PM
2	Abortion should be legal but the women who unalive their children aren't good “I hate stopping people’s personal choices” Oh do you now?	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/05/26 09:54 PM
2	A lot of people have very closed-minded and frankly outdated views on porn. There’s like 4,000,000 creators on only fans. It seems like some people want to.	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/05/26 09:42 PM
0	A lot of people have very closed-minded and frankly outdated views on porn. Yeah, they move to grifting. There are plenty of sex workers who enjoy their professions and have to spend their time battling SWERFS and MAGA conservatives to dispel all the misinformation.	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/05/26 09:41 PM
1	A lot of people have very closed-minded and frankly outdated views on porn. There are a lot who just do it as a side thing because they feel like it though, and because it brings in cash on the side. It’s similar to being in the regular entertainment industry where the vast majority might not make a ton of money, but they should all be allowed to try it if it’s something they enjoy.	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/05/26 09:20 PM
1	A lot of people have very closed-minded and frankly outdated views on porn. I think if someone elects to be in the sex industry, and other people are saying that they actually don’t want to be in the sex industry or are in it against their will, the burden of proof is on the people putting words in the sex workers’ mouths.	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/05/26 08:09 PM
1	A lot of people have very closed-minded and frankly outdated views on porn. I think it depends how you mean “have no desire to do it.” If they perform intimacy for $15,000 a month, they have the desire for $15,000 a month even if the desire isn’t romantic desire. There’s still “desire” in the sense of “willingness” to perform.	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/05/26 08:07 PM
1	Orgasm gap is not caused by men, its caused by women because they don’t close the gap of effort gap Sure. But the flip side of it is that her mindset shouldn’t just be that her job is to lay there and take it. I mean that can be it, but she’ll be a better lover if she recognizes that even as a receiver, she is a participant in the performance. And if she wants to come more that involves treating sex as more of a dialogue between two people than a thing that is happening to her.	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/05/26 03:57 PM
6	Orgasm gap is not caused by men, its caused by women because they don’t close the gap of effort gap It’s a matter of topping/bottoming and the roles that go with that. Bottoms typically want to be pampered and want the top to know what they’re doing. They don’t want to have to ask and they want the top to be assertive and decisive. Which is fine, but it can create a dynamic where the bottom relies on the top intuiting what would work to make the bottom orgasm. Being a good lover requires you to communicate your wants and needs, beyond just pleasing your partner. It’s not enough to just get you…	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/05/26 12:23 PM
–	Orgasm gap is not caused by men, its caused by women because they don’t close the gap of effort gap The orgasm gap is caused by women being socialized to be passive recipients in bed. They aren’t socialized to initiate the way men are. They aren’t socialized to escalate towards what they’d like the way men are. A lot of women don’t even particularly know what they like or how to ask for it, and a big part of being good in bed is communicating those things.	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/05/26 11:46 AM
1	What is the average female sexual experience like? Thanks, I am super creative. But you’re being too generous. It’s no stretch of the imagination to think that people who attribute anti-sex attitudes to the opposite gender’s performance abilities might just be bad in bed. I.e. guys who call promiscuous women “cracked” and who grossly seek virgins are obviously just insecure dudes. I am not saying women shouldn’t vet for sexual compatibility. I think that probably suggests they’re better in bed than women who don’t. I’m just saying that women who…	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/05/26 12:38 PM
–	Female teacher sexually assaulting male student is played for laughs on SNL So what? Does that make them bad movies? I don’t think so. Horror uses sexual tension to build general tension and then shock the audience into a scare. It can also be a way to provide social commentary and get the audience thinking about social mores on a subconscious level. You aren’t supposed to walk away from Halloween thinking “I’m sure glad Michael Meyers killed all those sexy teens.” Instead, it gets the audience sympathizing with the victims and feeling uncomfortable about the way Meyers…	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/05/26 10:36 AM
–	Female teacher sexually assaulting male student is played for laughs on SNL I’m left and I watch horror movies and erotic thrillers almost constantly . Artists should be allowed to say whatever they want fuck they want.	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/05/26 03:53 AM
–	Female teacher sexually assaulting male student is played for laughs on SNL Did you see that other movie or tv show where a bad thing that shouldn’t happen in real life happens?	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/05/26 03:03 AM
–	If "bluepillers" basically all agree that there are no valid criticisms of leftist gender ideology, then you all are far more unified than you like to pretend. I guess it depends specifically what you mean. I think the link community is very sex positive and discussions around gender politics are typically more respectful, because they aren’t trying to yuck anyone’s yum, but also they’re historically (almost definitionally) marginalized as sexual deviants. So I think they resist horseshoeing into something exclusionary, without denying the reality of people who are affected by conservatism. But also, I view liberal feminists (those feminists who do pri…	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/05/26 11:53 PM
–	If "bluepillers" basically all agree that there are no valid criticisms of leftist gender ideology, then you all are far more unified than you like to pretend. It always kind of boggles my mind that people view red pill as a reaction to “mainstream” dating advice, which they assert is “blue pill.” Main stream dating advice is basically traditional dating advice: that women should hold out in order to ensure romantic commitment from provider males. As regards men, red pill advice is that women prefer financially successful, assertive, dominant men. That’s all very red pill conservative, and those ideas permeate most media, if not as an overt theme as su…	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/05/26 11:17 PM
1	Feminists expect male "allies", but have no interest in solving male-specific issues or even recognizing them I agree. It’s a shitty place to be if you’re a leftist dude, though.	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/05/26 10:39 PM
–	If "bluepillers" basically all agree that there are no valid criticisms of leftist gender ideology, then you all are far more unified than you like to pretend. I’m confused which opinions you can’t have on this subreddit. Is it just transphobia?	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/05/26 10:29 PM
–	Guys, if your girl goes clubbing, is that a dealbreaker? I like how you start by saying not wanting to date them doesn’t equal hating them, and then you immediately compare them to prostitutes in a derogatory way.	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/05/26 09:26 PM
3	Feminists expect male "allies", but have no interest in solving male-specific issues or even recognizing them The point of the man vs. bear thing was to normalize sex based hostility toward men as a feminist position. And it did work. To get Donald Trump elected and flip all three chambers conservative. Online feminism lost the plot and became more about attacking men than promoting any semblance of gender equality. The “secret weapon” that Trump likely alluded to in the run up to the election was the hard right pivot that young men made in the months leading up to the election, in response to broad spr…	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/05/26 07:53 PM
–	Guys, if your girl goes clubbing, is that a dealbreaker? Personally, I think it’s an offshoot of capitalist messaging handed down from the “Protestant work ethic.” But I first read about this idea in an Aldous Huxley book where he was talking about the Manichaeans (religious dualists who separated basically every behavior into good/godly and bad/sinful) and how that dualism had worked its way into capitalism by framing the purpose of people’s lives as being industrious for industriousness’s sake, as opposed to being spiritual. Anyway, a lot of people …	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/05/26 07:42 PM
–	Guys, if your girl goes clubbing, is that a dealbreaker? I’ve never understood men who hate women who like to have fun, but I think a lot of the men who hate fun women also hate fun people, generally. They’re anti-hedonist, and think everyone should be more responsible because that’s how they want to be. Their resentment of women who club is a projection of their internalized belief that abstaining from pleasure should be rewarded.	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/05/26 06:26 PM
5	Feminists expect male "allies", but have no interest in solving male-specific issues or even recognizing them “Kill all men” is overblown, but the underlying misandrist sentiment is evident in a lot of feminist rhetoric. Defending the man vs. bear thing, for instance, is insulting on a few levels, not the least of which is that it assumes men are so stupid that they can’t understand when they’re being insulted, or can’t understand how that feminist position is obviously meant to hurt them.	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/05/26 06:21 PM
1	What is the average female sexual experience like? I’m curious why you think… Here is a nuanced elaboration on that: I love sex. I’ve made it a big part of my life, choose partners at least partly based on sexual compatibility, and I’ve taken the time to learn about it and practice it. It’s like a hobby for me. This “orgasm gap,” conversation is rooted in reality. A lot of guys don’t invest the time and energy to be good in bed. But it also gets twisted. It takes two to tango, and sexual performance isn’t exclusively the realm of men, even if a …	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/05/26 03:39 PM
1	Would you leave this woman? I’m very kink forward, and (unlike everyone else here apparently), I happen to love anal. I reserve my right to break up with a woman, regardless of the reason, and not feel ashamed if the reason is she can’t or won’t satisfy me sexually. But I think the fear that the reason a partner won’t perform a specific kink is it’s you is because they don’t like you enough is fundamentally and correctly identified as an “insecurity.” It’s never the right move to make someone feel bad for not sharing your …	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/05/26 03:30 PM
1	Why do Men degrade and insult Women who have sex with them? I think as many women internalize this idea against men, and talk about male sexuality advances as inherently predatory, unwanted, and disgusting. As an example. I think there’s a lot of truth to that “how to talk to women” meme with the top panel being a fat guy saying, “hi Debra, you look great today,” prompting the woman to call HR, and the bottom panel being a handsome man saying the same thing, causing Debra to coo and say “aw, you’re sweet.” Girlboss feminists like Iliza Schlesinger play o…	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/05/26 03:10 PM
3	Feminists expect male "allies", but have no interest in solving male-specific issues or even recognizing them I agree, that’s why it sucks as a man who supports gender equality to see feminism redefined into something that forces people to the right.	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/05/26 02:37 PM
1	Why do Men degrade and insult Women who have sex with them? That’s exactly right, just more elaborate and focused on how sexism views male sexuality. I’d say “Sexism” itself is mostly an interplay between how people view male sexuality as defiling, degrading, and predatory, and how they burden women with the responsibility of keeping the “cost” of sex high for men, while viewing women who aren’t discriminating enough about sexual partners as “gender traitors” crossing the picket line.	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/05/26 08:41 AM
1	What is the average female sexual experience like? I think you may have misunderstood my earlier comment. I’m saying “women who talk like this (framing everything as a male performance skill issue), ironically enough, tend to suck in bed (because they’re selfish lovers and don’t consider their side of the sexual performance important.” I’m not saying I don’t like humorous women. I prefer them too. Good on you for bringing your female lovers to orgasm 100% of the time.	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/05/26 04:24 PM
1	What is the average female sexual experience like? Does that metric include female partners?	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/05/26 03:04 PM
3	What is the average female sexual experience like? I know because I’ve slept with a lot of women, I make my partners cum almost every time (though I don’t mind if they don’t finish. I also don’t mind if I don’t finish. It’s not exclusively about cumming). I, like you, love pussy. More importantly I love sex. I’ve made it a big part of my life, choose partners at least partly based on sexual compatibility, and I’ve taken the time to learn about it and practice it. It’s like a hobby for me. This “orgasm gap,” conversation is rooted in reality, bec…	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/05/26 01:56 PM
-4	What is the average female sexual experience like? I love casual and I’m certain I’m better in bed than most men. I resent the idea that if I’m not some chivalrous waiter I can’t be good in bed. Women who talk like this ironically tend to suck in bed. They think you should be grateful just to fuck them, and they think it’s all about them.	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/05/26 12:20 PM
49	Would you leave this woman? I have a large dick, and have had similar conversations. But I wouldn’t leave a girl for having done things with an ex that she won’t do with me regardless of why she doesn’t want to do them, because I’m not insecure	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/05/26 09:17 PM
1	Am I an Omega What’s sugma?	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/05/26 03:23 PM
4	Why Banning Sex Work Is More Similar to Banning Therapy Than People Realize A lot of the stigmatization around it comes from racism and an intentional push to conflate “sex work” “prostitution,” and “trafficking.” Most people can’t articulate the difference, and the ones who use trafficking as a synonym don’t want people to be able to imagine that those students of yours are full people. They’ll swear up and down that they have those girls’ best interest at heart, but they’re the ones who would take away their bodily autonomy, financial independence, and if they ever tr…	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/05/26 11:19 AM
2	Men Confuse Women Wanting Confident Men With Wanting “Assholes” I think guys like to imagine that other dudes who are more successful with women must have dark triad personality traits. It’s how they cope	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/05/26 02:52 PM
4	Can women really not understand where Nice Guys come from ? I agree. To add some nuance, I believe u/whiskeymyers75 when they’re talking about the women who want romance, effort, consistency, emotional availability, and that sort of thing. Which is all well and good. But wanting someone to do all the chivalrous gestures can be basically coded as “performative masculinity.” I’ve even seen femme lesbians projecting that role into their butch potential partners. As a kinkster, I see that dynamic as very D/s coded. If you’re going explore it in a sexual/roma…	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/05/26 04:02 PM
5	Can women really not understand where Nice Guys come from ? Exactly. Despite what this sub (and especially red pill) says, most women want to connect with a guy who views them as a full person, not as some weird little prize to salivate over. Some women do like the chivalrous stuff. Absolutely that’s true. And most women like the softer benevolent sexism stuff: paying for dates. Treating her special. But almost no women like feeling that the guy they just met is sycophantically fawning over them. They want a guy who views himself as at least an equal. So…	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/05/26 02:28 PM
7	Why do Men degrade and insult Women who have sex with them? Yeah. But benevolent sexism is tied to hostile sexism. It encourages and reinforces views that simultaneously infantalize and pedastalize women.	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/05/26 02:04 PM
10	Why do Men degrade and insult Women who have sex with them? I think the majority have at least internalized the puritanical view outlined above. This is reflected in the way a lot of guys talk derisively about women with high body counts, women giving it up for “Chad,” and the conquest language you pointed out in your post. A lot of sex negative women also talk about it this way, which is why they treat any sexualization, even women choosing to post sexy vids, as “objectification.” They operate under the assumption that sex is harmful to women (and benef…	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/05/26 01:04 PM
17	Why do Men degrade and insult Women who have sex with them? They internalize sexist messaging that, based on traditional values, men earn status by sleeping with women, who are the gatekeepers of sex. Men and women who think like this basically believe that by giving away easy sex, women are “devaluing” sex itself and devaluing themselves. Because most people are at least a little sexist, if not fully sexist, the language around sex continues to frame it as an act of degradation done to a woman rather than an experienced shared with two people.	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/05/26 12:26 PM
15	Can women really not understand where Nice Guys come from ? The issue with Nice Guys is that they believe “fair” in this context means that if they perform benevolent sexism it entitles them to sex and romance from desirable women. I agree that this is the just world fallacy at play. However, it matters that from women’s perspective this “justice” isn’t fair to them. They don’t owe intimacy of any form to someone just because that person performed chivalry at them. Especially if the guy responds to rejection like she’s a barista who got his order wrong.	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/05/26 12:21 PM
1	You are not entitled to a relationship The reason that “you are not entitled to sex/a relationship” was decidedly a win for women’s sexual liberation is because to say the opposite is to promote rape culture and to enforce patriarchal gender norms that infantilize women and undercut the concept of women’s bodily autonomy. If we treat women like they couldn’t possibly want sex outside of marriage, or like women who do like sex must be broken or stupid, we give license to people who question the validity of women’s consent and challeng…	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/05/26 04:53 PM
4	You are not entitled to a relationship Men don’t owe a woman commitment just because she slept with them, just like women don’t owe men sex just because they go on a date. There’s nothing stopping a woman from saying “I won’t have sex with you unless you promise yourself to me,” just like there’s nothing stopping a man from saying “I’m not paying for dinner unless you fuck me.” Or rather, the thing that stops people from saying that is that, when said out loud, it’s obviously unreasonable, transactional, and misguided. It’s forcing p…	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/05/26 02:58 PM
1	Women are scared of not having the power in dating This content was anonymized and mass deleted with Redact	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/05/26 01:08 PM
4	You are not entitled to a relationship A huge amount of women read a relationship that isn’t there into the early stages of dating and then feel misled, just like a huge amount of guys read romantic intentions into the early stages of friendship and then feel “lead on” or “friend zoned.” In both cases, there are some people who do actively exploit that dynamic in exactly the way that the rejected person fears (that’s why people are so afraid of it) but in most cases that’s not actually what’s happening. The rejected person is just bu…	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/05/26 12:58 PM
0	Women are scared of not having the power in dating This content was anonymized and mass deleted with Redact	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/05/26 08:19 PM
2	Women are scared of not having the power in dating This content was anonymized and mass deleted with Redact	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/05/26 03:53 PM
5	Women are scared of not having the power in dating This content was anonymized and mass deleted with Redact	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/05/26 02:19 PM
4	Women are scared of not having the power in dating This content was anonymized and mass deleted with Redact	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/05/26 01:57 PM
3	Men need to start leaving women alone. But that‘a exactly what you’re claiming this post does to women, so you understand how someone saying “I wanna take my ball and go home” can be trying to punish people I don’t think you’re wrong. I think both men and women who withdrawal from the opposite gender do so as a way of at least trying to punish them.	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/05/26 01:35 PM
1	Defending women at all costs isn't protecting women,it's setting them up for when accountability catches up you think it’s speculation Yes, we’re both speculating on what the consumer sentiment would be if a male birth control pill were widely released. I think if the side effects were equivalent, a greater percentage of men would adopt it than women, and that it would be a cash cow for whatever pharmaceutical company created it. I think it would be easy to market to men. Sex sells, especially for men, and they have less stigma around casual sex.	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/05/26 01:34 PM
5	Defending women at all costs isn't protecting women,it's setting them up for when accountability catches up Excuse me, are you against women taking birth control pills for the same reason?	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/05/26 01:18 PM
3	Defending women at all costs isn't protecting women,it's setting them up for when accountability catches up Good luck slut shaming me lol	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/05/26 01:11 PM
1	Men need to start leaving women alone. Yes it is. They both use decentering as a way of punishing the opposite gender. It’s like they want to use “setting boundaries” as a way to punish their exes, but in a societal level.	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/05/26 12:02 PM
2	Defending women at all costs isn't protecting women,it's setting them up for when accountability catches up I disagree with so much of the speculation part, though. Women are generally discouraged from being sexually, at least openly and especially casually. The pill having the side effect of tempering women’s menstrual cycle is an obvious benefit to women, but it also gives them cover to be on the pill without having to defend that decision. This is especially important for young women whose parents (and peers) may not approve of them being sexually active. If sterility were the only benefit, women w…	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/05/26 11:52 AM
2	Defending women at all costs isn't protecting women,it's setting them up for when accountability catches up Yeah, if it means having raw sex without the risk of pregnancy definitely.	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/05/26 11:07 AM
–	What would be your advice for a man in this situation? Whatever your hobbies are, dig into them and be social at them. Height and vocal issues will be issues, no doubt. But if you find your corner of the world and excel in it, that’s attractive to people. Don’t force yourself into concerts and bars because that’s where dating is supposed to happen. Find the girls who like the things you like and take them to the places you’ve feel comfortable.	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/05/26 01:54 AM
15	Defending women at all costs isn't protecting women,it's setting them up for when accountability catches up I always found it weird that BC is researched and marketed at women but seemingly way less effort has gone into targeting men. The “they don’t have a pill for men because men couldn’t handle it!” arguments always sounded so stupid to me, not just because of the inherent sexism they rely on, but because, if anything, considerably more men seem to be into the idea of consequence free sex. I have to assume there are legit medical hurdles to this, as a safe and effective birth control pill for men w…	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/05/26 01:49 AM
1	The blue pill argument that women only care about men's personalities and do not care about a man's looks/status/money goes straight out the widow the second the man turns out be an abuser. I disagree. I argue with women all the time and never assume they’re all the same, or above judgment.	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/05/26 12:17 PM
2	Would cold approaches feel less awkward or intimidating if men offered their number instead of asking for yours? Autocorrected from “thumpy” to “thinly.” I listen to mostly darkwave too.	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/05/26 10:01 PM
1	Would cold approaches feel less awkward or intimidating if men offered their number instead of asking for yours? I guess synthetic, thinly feminism. I know that you don’t have to agree that it’s sexism. My question is cutting to the heart of your definition of feminism though. Why should anyone care about your takes on gender equality if your feminism is fundamentally rooted in a sexist perspective, cancelling itself out?	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/05/26 09:55 PM
1	Would cold approaches feel less awkward or intimidating if men offered their number instead of asking for yours? this is called deflection. You have yourself flaired as a feminist. I’m asking whether you require the same amount of substantiation for feminist claims as you do for my claim. It isn’t deflecting, it’s comparable. I want you to answer whether you do.	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/05/26 09:42 PM
1	Would cold approaches feel less awkward or intimidating if men offered their number instead of asking for yours? Are you as skeptical when analyzing feminist claims? Is it “conspiratorial” to believe, for instance, that men who hate women complain about “body counts” as a way of insulting and demeaning women? Should we hand wave away the idea of patriarchy as “a complex web of conspiracy laden claims stemming from the basic reality you are uncomfortable with”? I don’t think so. I think both analysis are valid, and that Occam’s razor supports that underlying sexism better explains this kind of “venting.” I …	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/05/26 09:31 PM
0	Would cold approaches feel less awkward or intimidating if men offered their number instead of asking for yours? I think you just don’t like being called out. It’s the same as a dude being like “how does complaining about OF models reflect poorly on me? How could my need to criticize and rebuke them possibly say anything about my feelings towards women and sex more generally?”	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/05/26 06:38 PM
-1	Would cold approaches feel less awkward or intimidating if men offered their number instead of asking for yours? Like I’ve said repeatedly, it’s quite obvious that women who have men complain about cold approaches as a way to project superiority over men. I don’t see the utility in pretending that this isn’t why they do it	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/05/26 05:54 PM
0	Would cold approaches feel less awkward or intimidating if men offered their number instead of asking for yours? Not a conflation. Attacking male sexual attention as a way of implying female superiority is something women who hate men do often. Edit: approaching in real life has worked for me plenty. Also, I’d refer you to all the posts from guys being like “I stopped listening to blue pill advice and tried red pill, and it worked.” I think this is a misrepresentation of “blue pill advice” as a blanket term for misandrist takes. I don’t see gender equality as excluding men, or as teaching men that they sho…	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/05/26 05:21 PM
0	Would cold approaches feel less awkward or intimidating if men offered their number instead of asking for yours? I think it’s more obvious that women who hate men often use complaints about cold approaches to imply a superiority over men generally. It’s a kind of humble brag they do to suggest that men are beneath them for daring to approach them. That isn’t a hamstrung theory. It’s just something that a lot of women who hate men very obviously do.	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/05/26 05:10 PM
4	Why do men complain about women choosing assholes but simultaneously shame men who are simps and treat women with kindness? It is absolutely a red pill take and a common complaint on this sub. I.e. “why do women blame men for their bad choices when they won’t even date nice guys like me.”	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/05/26 04:52 PM
-1	Would cold approaches feel less awkward or intimidating if men offered their number instead of asking for yours? I think women who hate men often complain about cold approaches as a way of trying to make men feel bad, or like they’re attraction toward women itself is bad (similar to complaints about the male gaze). I think they’re basically trying to convince men that this is a universally held female opinion, even though it is irrelevant to the men who cold approach women and the women who like men.	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/05/26 04:34 PM
-1	Would cold approaches feel less awkward or intimidating if men offered their number instead of asking for yours? So? Framing cold approaches as hostile, insulting, or aggressive is also invalidating, not to mention delusional.	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/05/26 03:44 PM
–	I think I was mistaken on what the blue pill is - could you clarify something for me: do you see the blue and pink pills as diametrically opposed to each other? Yes, they are diametrically opposed. Red pill is traditional values dating advice. It’s “men should be strong pursuer provider protector types and women should be coy, deferential submissive types, because that’s nature.” Pink pill is red pill, with a faux-feminist bent. It strongly enforces patriarchal gender roles with the intention of using them to hurt men instead of women. Girlboss feminism, “cakeist” feminism, and forms of feminism that are often called out as hypocritical for endorsing se…	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/05/26 03:12 PM
5	Women aren't attracted to feminist men, they are attracted to hot men!1! Now I’m just picturing a scenario where a feminist man has to pretend not to respect you into liking him.	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/05/26 01:44 PM
2	Would cold approaches feel less awkward or intimidating if men offered their number instead of asking for yours? I think this post/thread is a good example of why men shouldn’t take dating advice from most women. They aren’t reflective of the attitudes of women who might actually be open to finding a partner. I got a number somewhat recently just by sitting next to a woman in a cafe and talking to her. All of these “I hate cold approaches under any and all circumstances” responses are bad advice, because women who are open to dating would have very different opinions. Edit to clarify: I agree with you. I d…	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/05/26 01:19 PM
1	If bluebell advice worked the manosphere wouldn’t exist This is a lot to answer (especially with nuance) but I’ll try. Yes, I’ve had relationships with misandrists, be it coworkers, friends, or women I’ve dated. But like misogyny, it’s sort of scalar and differs person to person in how intensely they buy in. I had an ex who became a radical feminist, and I would say she was very sexist. But most people internalize at least some sexist stereotypes. I’d consider someone a misandrist if they consciously try to push a warped narrative that consistently f…	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/05/26 09:55 PM
2	Redpill is the result negative result of a society not having enough masculine role models. Social traits are socialized into people. They aren’t innate expressions of their chromosome.	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/05/26 04:11 PM
1	If bluebell advice worked the manosphere wouldn’t exist Good question. I think it illustrates a form of sexism that men almost unilaterally face, that often isn’t acknowledged as “sexism” because people aren’t primed to recognize it the way they are sexism against women. I.e. I think if a woman said that she’s had plenty of experiences where men made her feel sexually uncomfortable, people would generally believe her unless they are openly misogynistic. But when men say they’ve had plenty of experiences where women made them feel emotionally unsafe b…	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/05/26 03:03 PM
3	Redpill is the result negative result of a society not having enough masculine role models. So it’s a human trait, that gets filtered through gender constructs to present differently in men and women, then?	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/05/26 11:50 AM
5	Q4All: Would you consider this settling or a relationship deprived of lust? In general, men find a larger percentage of women attractive and women find a really small amount of men attractive, comparatively. What doesn’t get talked about, or what gets misrepresented I think, is that women’s taste varies a lot more. Even within friend groups women usually have pretty different opinions on which guys they find hot. But also, if a woman developed attraction towards you, you’re probably one of a handful of guys she even thinks of that way. So I say “yeah, if she finds you a…	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/05/26 12:01 AM
-1	If bluebell advice worked the manosphere wouldn’t exist Nah I fuckin rock.	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/05/26 03:21 PM
–	The feeling of loneliness on men I think they put too fine a point on it, but agree that generally when people are lonely in this sense, they don’t mean that closer platonic relationships would resolve it. It should be noted that the the male loneliness epidemic is intentionally gendered, when the reality is that women face equal amounts of loneliness, and the framing of it “men complaining about sex to get sex” also isn’t really accurate, since it’s about romantic unwellness across both genders.	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/05/26 11:37 PM
1	If bluebell advice worked the manosphere wouldn’t exist No, I don’t think it’s good advice, even generally. I don’t think it stands up to scrutiny.	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/05/26 11:32 PM
8	If bluebell advice worked the manosphere wouldn’t exist “Work out,” is fine advice. “You need to work out because women are biologically predisposed to only find strong, domineering men sexually attractive because in caveman times alphas reigned over harems of submissive females, and that primordial urge to be dominated still resonates within their loins,” is red pill bullshit. “Be yourself,” is also fine advice. “Be yourself because humans evolved to desire heritable characterological traits that resemble their own” may be on as shaken evo-psych gro…	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/05/26 10:18 PM
1	Sexualization Vs Objectification I think there’s a paradox with objectification, at least the way that it’s often discussed. A man who fears a woman’s sexuality (or who fears sexualizing her and think of it as some kind of spiritual offense) reduces her to her sexuality. And people who talk of objectifying women in a way that implies that women are inherently victimized by their own sexuality also reduce them to their status as sex objects while undercutting their autonomy and agency in sexual matters. Of course women don’t lik…	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/05/26 03:35 PM
1	Objectification is acted by the viewer, not the viewed That doesn’t really square with the way you’re writing about Taylor Swift and women more generally though. It sounds like you think that women are automatically reduced to their sexual value if they’re perceived in a sexual light at all.	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/05/26 12:27 PM
1	Objectification is acted by the viewer, not the viewed I guess this begs the question: is there anything morally wrong with objectifying women, if merely registering a woman’s sexuality counts as objectifying her? Also, do lesbians likewise objectify women? Is objectification just finding someone sexy? Why and how would a meta-commentary about objectification nullify a “self” objectifying performance?	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/05/26 12:10 PM
1	Sexualization Vs Objectification This exact thing is going on in that newer post about objectification	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/05/26 11:52 AM
5	What increases your sense of self-worth outside of romatic/sexual validation? I was captain of my high school sports team, manager of my extracurricular club, published in literary and academic journals, and movie writer/producer. But for me, none of that has ever held a candle to being in a satisfying romantic relationship, or feeling sexually romantically desired. I really don’t like the way seeking romantic and sexual validation is demonized these days. I think it contributes to the gender war. But also, the same thing that drove me to be a great writer is what drives …	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/05/26 12:15 AM
3	Sexualization Vs Objectification This is getting semantic, because it depends how you mean “objectification.” I should clarify for my definition above that I think what is problematic about objectification is the dehumanization and reduction. But a lot of people use “objectification” as a synonym for “sexualization.” The reason I draw the distinction that way is because it’s more in line with what Feminism was trying to address. Using objectification to mean “any sexualization of women specifically” confuses the discourse, IMO.…	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/05/26 12:12 AM
13	Sexualization Vs Objectification Objectification: reducing someone to their status as an object. The key point is the reduction. Humans can be sexual objects, but that doesn’t mean that by engaging someone sexually you’re automatically degrading some quality of their being or stripping away their dignity. Sexualization: perceiving someone as a sexual being. Sexualization alone is neutral. It’s just recognizing or portraying how someone could be titillating in a sexual way. That’s different, IMO, from reducing someone to only th…	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/05/26 07:44 PM
2	There is literally no alternative to red pill. It’s the personality advice that I don’t get. My personality is who I am. It’s not a mask I put on. Hard agree. Two thoughts on this: firstly, I think young adults have a more malleable personality. They’re more impressionable and still trying to figure themselves out, so a 20 year old millionaire telling them they need to capitalism-max their mindset appeals to them. It makes them think they can fix their personality in time to be a winner by adopting red pill ideology. But I also think it’s ir…	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/05/26 01:45 PM
–	What is Love to you? I agree with u/acephalicdude and think that’s a very cogent way of looking at it, but agree that it feels like it’s missing something. When we’re talking about that “ineffable sense of the totality of their being,” I think what we’re really talking about is identifying with someone else. Recognizing ourselves in them and theirselves in us. That’s why when you’ve been together for a long ass time and then you break up it feels like a giant part of you has been cut away. You’ve started to develop …	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/05/26 11:45 AM
-1	Red pill men: what turned you red pill? This content was anonymized and mass deleted with Redact	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/04/26 11:49 AM
6	A lot of men lack agency and responzibility I think a lot of feminists misunderstand red pill in both its ideology and its insidiousness. That manosphere documentary that came out does an okay job highlighting the cringiest parts of red pill and why they are problematic. It did not do a good job, IMO, in conveying the actual message of red pill and why people fall for it. And I think that’s intentional, because if you steal-man red pill arguments they’re quite in line with how we, as a society, view men and women. A steal-manned red pill …	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/04/26 10:32 PM
1	Q4M: What women-focused media to you engage with? I think this is a really interesting question. I love movies and TV, and that’s where I get my female narratives mostly (aside from having women friends). I’ve watched thousands of them, and I’ve made some. I do want to caveat that I disagree that genre romances are an inherently inferior medium for understanding people, though I’d concede that a lot of romcoms are poorly done or tacitly espouse traditionalist gender constructs. But a particularly well done horror movie can drive home real chara…	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/04/26 09:32 PM
3	OLD: both men and women, if they have the same goals, can benefit from pursuing similar strategies. It’s a little contextual, but that’s basically my point. You don’t have to respond just because somebody messaged you, but if you’re talking to someone it’s decent to respond. When I say “contextual” I mean decency is contingent on the rapport you’ve built up. For instance, an internet stranger has no obligation to reply to your first message and only an asshole would take offense to a complete stranger’s non reaction. If you’ve been messaging a little bit and the conversation falls off, that’s …	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/04/26 10:33 PM
1	OLD: both men and women, if they have the same goals, can benefit from pursuing similar strategies. I’m optimistic on OLD in a way that most here seem not to be. I got a lot of dates regularly and mostly enjoyed them. When things didn’t work out, the majority of the time I still felt like I met a nice person and am glad to have had a decent dinner or whatever. My rules for myself were basically the opposite of what you posted here, because my underlying dating philosophy was “dating is fun and enjoyable. I’d rather get my hopes up and my feelings hurt than sit life out.” 1: the apps are a game…	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/04/26 10:12 PM
3	CMV: Men in their 20s should date around and play the field Same.	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/04/26 09:36 PM
3	Physical Touch Love Language It’s okay to enjoy sex. I think women get told that they don’t like sex or shouldn’t want sex in the way men want sex. I’ve been with plenty of women who do enjoy sex like that, who like feeling desired or who jump my bones the second I walk in the door, and for us that’s perfect. Conversely, I’ve had relationships where everything else is there (even handholding and snuggles, as others have identified as “physical touch”). That’s hard but I need more in a relationship, and it doesn’t mean that …	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/04/26 08:05 PM
–	Question for bluepilers . At a base level Is self improvement just to get some 🐱 bad , in any way? If yes please explain. Self improvement is no issue. I go to the gym specifically to look and perform well in bed. I think it’s kind of a dumb fad to pretend that people don’t go to the gym to look and feel sexy. I think there’s purity culture on the right and the left, and what you describe is an extension of left purity culture. Purity culture on both sides frames sex as inherently harmful to women, and implies male sexuality is dirty and degrading while female value is tied to their sexual choices. I’m a sex positi…	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/04/26 07:21 PM
3	Women have male-like sexuality when they attracted to other women I’m sure men vastly outnumber women, but sex workers do get women as well. A while ago I was in a sex positivity sub and connected with Sinn Sage on something, and she recommended me her podcast. I find it really interesting. She (and many of the pornstars she has on) are more attracted to women, and they’ll occasionally discuss their female clientele. It sounds like they do get a lot of women coming to them, probably for similar reasons the guys do.	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/04/26 11:32 AM
7	Women have male-like sexuality when they attracted to other women there are webcam models or other sex workers, and women are are not their clients, even lesbians. Sex workers do get lesbian clientele.	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/04/26 11:12 AM
–	Hetero women perceive sex as a massage That line was my favorite part lol.	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/04/26 06:50 PM
1	Male Feminist Consider two axes: 1); Boys vs girls. 2): Sexists vs anti-sexists Red pill is sexist boys. Pink pill is sexist girls. Blue bill is anti-sexist irrespective of gender. Purple pill is sort of soft on sexism. I think it can kind of mean a lot, but generally it’s people who don’t fully agree with red pill but concede that it isn’t fully bad or wrong (I’m blue pill because I oppose traditional values and think it’s important to deconstruct gender norms and disavow them when asserted as intrinsic trut…	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/04/26 06:39 PM
–	Hetero women perceive sex as a massage Almost every sentence in this post is inaccurate. I mean it’s all an opinion, but to pick apart each point would be tedious. I find a lot of this is the opposite. Women don’t care who they’re fucking? For women, it’s entirely physical? Yeah right.	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/04/26 06:32 PM
2	How do you describe men's attraction to women? My urge to cum is not like my desire for a fulfilling and healthy relationship. You may be asexual, but surely you’ve wanted to spend time with people or felt alone and wanted someone to empathize with and share stories with. The desire for romantic connection is similar to that desire of companionship. Or like knowing that a best friend’s company feels really good. The need for sex is different. It’s probably closer to the need to feel like a productive member of society. You can maybe go a mon…	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/04/26 03:08 PM
1	Porn analytics reveal surplus of queer men? There’s nothing inherently bigoted about being DL. There is something inherently bigoted about targeting DL men and spreading hate.	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/04/26 02:35 PM
1	Porn analytics reveal surplus of queer men? I’m not DL. I’m defending closeted men because I care about equality and inclusivity generally, and think reactionary bigotry should be shut down wherever it’s sprouting up, including but not limited to supposedly progressive spaces.	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/04/26 01:56 PM
1	Porn analytics reveal surplus of queer men? I would just call them closeted, not DL DL means closeted men who have gay encounters. it’s really harmful that you are actively trying to minimize the danger that we face in sleeping with men. It’s really harmful (and hypocritical) that you are actively spreading hate based on people’s disclosure status. Do you believe that pointing to demographic data is an acceptable justification for spreading identity based hate?	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/04/26 01:24 PM
1	Porn analytics reveal surplus of queer men? If they are actively speaking out against the community, then the issue is them speaking out against the community, not their disclosure status. Identity politics based hate is emphatically NOT the correct response to the victimization of trans people. Instead of targeting DL men and spreading hateful rhetoric, you could, for example, call out hateful rhetoric. Including the hypocrisy of policing people’s sexuality, which is especially rich coming from people who should understand how fucked up …	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/04/26 01:07 PM
1	Male Feminist Red pill is basically gender essentialism though. In this sub, you are “pink pilled.” A feminist who agrees with red pill (I.e. a radical feminist who believes in female superiority, by subscribing to the same sexist beliefs that red pill subscribes to).	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/04/26 11:49 AM
1	Porn analytics reveal surplus of queer men? That didn’t answer my question. I think what’s crazy to me is how someone can hypothetically understand bigotry/homophobia/sexism and that kind of thing, and then engage in the same “murderers and rapists” type rhetoric like it doesn’t follow the same logic. DL men don’t owe you or anyone else coming out, just like people who are out don’t owe it to anyone else to stay closeted.	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/04/26 11:44 AM
3	What is the future of gendered belief systems? Ah. In that case yeah, I fully agree. I think people will always seek romantic partnership, romantic failures will always be recognized as such, and that the current heterofatalism is pathological in its intensity. I don’t think it will last, not because incels/femcels won’t have children, but because young people will always find people who can’t get laid cringe.	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/04/26 02:39 AM
2	What is the future of gendered belief systems? Political beliefs aren’t genetically heritable. While “social contagion” is maybe a useful term for describing the flow of ideas through people, nobody who is currently anti-Natalist is the spawn of anti-natalists. That said, I’m not convinced anti-natalists (as in people who are strongly, ideologically opposed to propagating on philosophical grounds) are common enough to have a detrimental effect on population. People who don’t want to have kids won’t, but that doesn’t mean that the kids who we…	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/04/26 11:50 PM
1	Porn analytics reveal surplus of queer men? Fuck that. Disclosing one’s orientation is entirely their decision and hating people over that is bigoted.	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/04/26 09:35 PM
1	Male Feminist I don’t think we’re seeing the end of enlightenment reasoning. I feel like fascism is masquerading as the final form, but we’ve had this argument before and democracy beat it out. At the end of the day people prefer it, and fascism is self defeating.	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/04/26 08:34 PM
1	Porn analytics reveal surplus of queer men? I don’t buy it. I’ll continue to use queer to mean “not 100% straight,” like basically everyone else. And if I hear queer people using it to mean some kind of political affiliation I’ll clap back as I did above, for the reasons above. That shit should be nipped in the bud.	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/04/26 08:33 PM
1	Porn analytics reveal surplus of queer men? Re-defining “queerness” as a political movement that opposes cis-heteronormativity is a stupid, counterproductive way of keeping the queer community safe. It just reeks of the same hypocritical, exclusionary, reactionary element that drives radfems to hate men, trans people, and sex workers.	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/04/26 07:35 PM
1	Women Keep Bringing Up Rape to Shut Down Male Concerns Are you bringing these issues up as a rhetorical strategy to derail conversations and tar men?	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/04/26 07:20 PM
1	Porn analytics reveal surplus of queer men? No one will die from the queer community being more inclusive than exclusive, and that starts with not gatekeeping queerness.	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/04/26 06:48 PM
1	Porn analytics reveal surplus of queer men? I don’t hear that often. I much more often hear people on varying degrees of the Kinsey scale say that they are queer, and my gay friends and family talk about queerness. At any rate, I’m not letting gay people gate keep “queerness.” It isn’t that deep.	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/04/26 05:22 PM
1	Male Feminist I agree. But I think OP’s perspective on this misunderstands “equality” in the philosophical sense. Everyone should enjoy the same rights under the law and their value as people should be judged based on their merits, not on the basis of their race, color, national origin, sex, etc. not just because it’s mean to be bigoted, but because the metrics we’re talking about (I.e. intelligence, strength, loyalty) are the qualities of an individual, not a demographic. Men may be stronger than women on av…	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/04/26 05:15 PM
1	Porn analytics reveal surplus of queer men? I disagree. You can insist that, but I don’t agree that this is the way “queerness” is used in common parlance, or that it’s an innate quality of the concept of queerness. My definition is better.	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/04/26 04:54 PM
6	Its not That Red pill is "Controlling" or even Wrong. They just want it silenced and snuffed out. as well as unselected men The point still stands that OP is equating the two, whereas u/lemon_gecko is illustrating why the nuance matters.	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/04/26 02:43 PM
8	Male Feminist You’re a gender essentialist. That’s at odds with gender equality, IMO. This post is a good example of exactly why. Rather than challenging gender constructs, you take them at face value, assert them as universal truths (like literally tied to god or something) and then your analysis of men and women becomes this dick measuring contest that presupposes gendered traits can prove one gender as objectively better or worse than the other. Sexism is stupid. Trying to argue which gender is intrinsical…	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/04/26 02:24 PM
2	Porn analytics reveal surplus of queer men? No it isn’t. Queerness is deviation from heteronormativity and the aesthetic associated with it.	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/04/26 12:06 PM
3	What is your vetting advice for women? I don’t mean it as a dig at women, but it does seem like one area where guys reflexively loath these type of dudes (we see it because were socialized around them), and women more often don’t see it because it resembles confidence.	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/04/26 04:25 AM
3	The problem isn't women. The problem isn't men. The problem is unhealthy enneagram 3s I think they mean that the real problem has been virgos this whole time.	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/04/26 10:49 PM
1	Women Keep Bringing Up Rape to Shut Down Male Concerns In addition to what u/Flaneur50 said, if you put two asterisks before and after the section you want bolded, that works. Depending on what kind of editor your Reddit is set up with that is much easier, IMO.	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/04/26 09:21 PM
–	Why do so many men think unattractive men treat women better It has to do with how sexism works. Young boys/men are taught that male sexuality is predatory and bad, and by extension women who pander to male sexuality are sluts. Those boys internalize this messaging and view sexually forward and sexually successful men as having “bad intentions.” The sexually insecure and romantically disadvantaged come to think of themselves as the “nice guys” who finish last. So it becomes a weird dynamic where unsuccessful men think lucky hot guys have automatically mis…	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/04/26 09:17 PM
23	What is your vetting advice for women? I don’t really know how to answer the settling thing because I think it’s a loaded term. I could be out pursuing other women, but I’m with you, so I’ve already chosen you over them. When I think of men that I hate, that women sometimes seem oblivious to, I think of guys who don’t apologize on principle. The salesy, smarmy type guys who need to win every social interaction. The kind of guy who crushes your hand when you shake it, because it’s important to this guy to assert dominance. The guys li…	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/04/26 09:11 PM
2	Women Keep Bringing Up Rape to Shut Down Male Concerns Not them, but that isn’t the message I got from their comment. The wording took me a second, but they’re saying that Trump getting elected made feminists inclusive of sex-negative “feminists” with reactionary conservative values. It made them INCLUSIVE of EXCLUSIONARY feminists, basically.	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/04/26 11:55 AM
2	Women Keep Bringing Up Rape to Shut Down Male Concerns You’re preaching to the choir.	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/04/26 01:12 AM
13	Women Keep Bringing Up Rape to Shut Down Male Concerns I think a lot of the issue stems from misandrists recognizing the utility of pivoting to rape/SA/DV as third rail issues, which they can use to simultaneously malign men. And some definitely do so as a conscious rhetorical strategy. The drawbacks in terms of gender equality is that it’s inherently bio essentialist and sexist. It flattens arguments about why it’s sometimes acceptable to treat male and female experiences differently. That isn’t a conversation that should lack nuance. The other iss…	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/04/26 09:54 PM
1	As a guy, the "mysoginists" are not that succesful as you all make them out to be I get what you’re saying, but I don’t think the people who call teasing, banter, and assertiveness “assholish” are up there on the agreeableness chart.	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/04/26 02:19 PM
–	Gender dynamics and the lack of empathy one may receive based on their sex. A lot of reality show fanbases showcase how one sided many (but not all) people’s level of empathy is. In the latest Love is Blind, that one woman was openly misandrist to a seemingly very nice guy. At the reunion they had split up, and she attacked him for not saying bye to her kid and for making her come to a bunch of weddings. He pointed out that she got black out drunk and physically attacked him at the first wedding they went to, where he was the best man. The amount of women just laughing …	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/04/26 05:29 PM
13	The Manosphere that claims Women will end up "alone and with cats" if they chase men out off theyre league, dont have a clue how many needy Guys there are. No Women will end alone without choosing to be alone. The premise of your post fundamentally misunderstands what women are looking for much the way that red pill assumes “women can get sex whenever they want” while refusing to acknowledge that sex in and of itself isn’t as valuable and validating to them as it would be for men. Most women want a fulfilling relationship from a man they respect. That is what women who are bad at love can’t get, even from desperate guys. A woman punching above her weight class can absolutely end up in a cycle of entit…	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/04/26 02:33 PM
11	If women are looking for a loyal man, why don’t they get together with a socially awkward guy who doesn’t know how to relate to women? Internalized misandry doesn’t really get talked about (except as toxic masculinity) but this is basically what it sounds like. They’ve internalized this idea that they’re “not like the other girls,” who are all sex-crazed abusive bastard men. They disbelieve that other men are just people like them, and they can’t imagine themselves inhabiting many of the same issues that they perceive other men to have. I.e. they think they’re nice and protective but can’t see the ways in which that can amount …	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/04/26 01:24 PM
1	Future relationships especially amongst Gen Z are doomed Yeah. That alone probably does explain it. There’s also the issue of these family values researchers creating these studies to prove this point. No scientist worth their salt is moralizing about the negative effects of premarital sex.	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/04/26 08:29 PM
–	Future relationships especially amongst Gen Z are doomed Divorce rates don’t matter at all. If Gen divorce rates are low, it typically just means that people are staying in unhappy marriages due to the legality or stigma of leaving. People with higher body counts are probably just less religious/conservative and therefore less likely to stay in unhappy marriages.	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/04/26 07:24 PM
–	Why do women don't date shoort men? Why do you assume she’s average?	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/04/26 05:53 PM
1	QFW: Honestly, do you see a path for redemption from former followers of guys like Andrew Tate, Nick Fuentes, Clavicular, fresh and fit, etc? Obama didn’t send ICE out to break up protests, antagonize communities, and threaten opposition. He didn’t openly position them as a force meant to specifically harass people of color. Pretending it’s the same is disingenuous.	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/04/26 05:30 PM
0	Red Pillers idolize the wrong men I don’t think anyone should be “idolized” per se, but there’s nothing wrong with being a “man whore,” and if guys want to date and have sex they should get advice from men who know how to date and have sex.	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/04/26 01:10 PM
0	Red Pillers idolize the wrong men Have you ever dealt with a doctor in any context outside of a hospital? Half of them are narcissistic manbabies with the entitlement and anger issues of a three year old. I’m sure there are plenty of good ones, but someone being a PHD or MD doesn’t automatically make them “a good person.”	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/04/26 01:07 PM
2	Conspiracy : We will see never seen levels off self improving in the next Years for Men, and it will get really bad. I agree with everything after your first point about He/Him. I was literally schooled to use He and Him to refer to any person of unknown gender. Also, reading any book before 2000 you’ll see the authors using He and Him to refer to any hypothetical individual unless the hypothetical person is pointedly a woman. They/them was sometimes used informally, but assuming male gender was used for formal writing until academia made the effort to push They/them as the default. And I think that was a good…	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/04/26 12:46 AM
1	Conspiracy : We will see never seen levels off self improving in the next Years for Men, and it will get really bad. This is an interesting perspective, but it clashes with my experience in university in the 2010s. Most if not all of my professors were feminist, and maybe it was because I was a student and they only expressed their softer views, but the refrain was toward gender equality, deconstructing gender, and calling out double standards. It just felt like a different environment, where the target was societal preconceptions of gender (I.e. a big talking point was reforming language to not use He/Him as …	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/04/26 12:04 AM
1	Conspiracy : We will see never seen levels off self improving in the next Years for Men, and it will get really bad. I mean, I think that the same visibility effect happened to red pill and feminism. I do think that incels became more visible first, and that red pill misogyny flared before radical feminism did. Radical feminism existed forever, but it wasn’t taken seriously even within feminist circles. Valerie Solanis was quoted as a joke, for instance, in shows like venture bros (a super progressive show that’s humor would probably send people typing up manifestos today). To me, the tipping point was when “d…	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/04/26 10:50 PM
-1	Conspiracy : We will see never seen levels off self improving in the next Years for Men, and it will get really bad. Yup. Horseshoe theory works, because the radicals on both ends agree to punish the opposing party, resulting in illiberal policies and broad sexist hostility towards everyone. Everyone agrees to less freedom because they think it’s more important to hurt the enemy.	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/04/26 03:14 PM
1	Conspiracy : We will see never seen levels off self improving in the next Years for Men, and it will get really bad. You’re misunderstanding my argument. I’m stating that I don’t think that 20% figure would change if, because of social pressures to “self improve,” every man or the vast majority of men suddenly looks maxed.if everyone is siding it, the 20% most attractive would still be the ones that women find attractive. (I don’t want to get derailed from the point above, but also that 20% isn’t settled law. Women may be more selective in who they find attractive. But not all women find the same 20% attractiv…	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/04/26 02:14 PM
-5	Conspiracy : We will see never seen levels off self improving in the next Years for Men, and it will get really bad. Agreed. There’s been a lot of backsliding in terms of gender equality because people don’t view being sexist as problematic anymore, as long as their willful ignorance is facing the right direction.	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/04/26 01:50 PM
1	Any movement that aims to "decenter" the other gender is and has always been fraudulent. Yep. Even if it doesn’t start as active hostility centering the opposite sex, it always lands there. What starts as “self help” and “protecting my peace,” become a reactionary justification for prejudging the opposite sex, centering sexist stereotypes as universal truths, and then the main thing fueling it becomes hate-based camaraderie	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/04/26 01:50 PM
1	Conspiracy : We will see never seen levels off self improving in the next Years for Men, and it will get really bad. I feel like this misses my main point, which is that if everyone is doing it, the collective change won’t make people appear more or less attractive. Attraction in this sense is relative to the average. For instance, while it may be true that women generally find taller men attractive, humans used to be shorter. Sexual selection for taller people and improvements in nutrition have increased the average height, but men in general aren’t all more attractive to women because women are perceiving th…	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/04/26 01:50 PM
2	Conspiracy : We will see never seen levels off self improving in the next Years for Men, and it will get really bad. That logic doesn’t hold when we’re talking about everyone though. When everyone was skinny and tan because they worked in fields, pale, curvaceous bodies were in because they indicated abundant wealth. When everyone was working under fluorescent lights eating highly processed foods, skinny tan bodies were in because they indicated the leisure class who could afford Pilates, tanning beds, and abundant resources. Skinny/fat/tan/pale aren’t objectively beautiful or ugly. We’re just socialized to fi…	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/04/26 01:12 PM
-2	Conspiracy : We will see never seen levels off self improving in the next Years for Men, and it will get really bad. Pretty much. I don’t think women fell for it before men though. I think that red pill misogyny prompted scorched earth feminism, which became exclusionary and contemptuously bad faith. I also think it’s more or less inevitable for sexism to fall out of fashion and become cringe to younger people who like sex, like the opposite sex, and are interested in romance and dating. The lame asses hung up on misogyny and misandry will sound like brainwashed parrots.	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/04/26 01:08 PM
7	Conspiracy : We will see never seen levels off self improving in the next Years for Men, and it will get really bad. That’s dumb as shit. Attraction is subjective and relative to the options available. If everyone self improved nothing would change because people wouldn’t feel more or less attracted to each other. They would still perceive the least attractive as unattractive and the most attractive as “catches.” To answer directly, “no. I don’t listen to women (who say that the reason they don’t date/can’t find men/hate men is because men aren’t living up to their standards).” I think those women are projecti…	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/04/26 01:00 PM
2	Conspiracy : We will see never seen levels off self improving in the next Years for Men, and it will get really bad. I don’t think there’s as strong a correlation between loneliness and self improvement as you’re imagining. Also, the question of what “improvement” means is subjective. Most women aren’t avoiding dating because men aren’t strong or handsome enough, and it strikes me as a very masculine idea to focus on improving those things rather than what women might actually like.	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/04/26 12:24 PM
2	QFW: Honestly, do you see a path for redemption from former followers of guys like Andrew Tate, Nick Fuentes, Clavicular, fresh and fit, etc? I think there’s two parts to it. 1): sexist attitudes 2): fascist ideology I’m a guy and the sexist attitudes don’t really affect me as much. But the prison camps for immigrants, ICE as modern gestapo, jingoism, and broad spread fascist rhetoric will and I think should carry a stigma to it. Though a lot depends on how old people were when they supported it and how far it actually goes.	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/04/26 04:54 PM
2	Do you think women's aversion of helping men in the dating/sexual context is biological or societal? Exactly. And I find this whole argument pretty disingenuous. Realistically the only women who are virgins at thirty will be so by choice, and the only reason a man would want a woman to be a virgin in her thirties is because he believes it indicates virtue. I disagree that it is a virtue, and wouldn’t want a partner who sees virginity as a virtue because that means she’s internalized sexuality as a vice. Pretending that this is an unreasonable assumption turns this into a nothing argument	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/04/26 01:21 PM
5	Do you think women's aversion of helping men in the dating/sexual context is biological or societal? None of those three examples explain away getting over a decade into adulthood without exploring your sexuality. Plenty of people pursue careers and have sex. Plenty of people take care of their ailing parents and have sex. Plenty of people “don’t find the right one” and have sex. It’s like saying “would you hire a 30 year old with zero work experience?” No. Probably not. Things happen but it’s a huge red flag if someone has never had a job, and you can reasonably assume incompetence. It’s also …	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/04/26 03:58 PM
7	Do you think women's aversion of helping men in the dating/sexual context is biological or societal? I’m not asexual and wouldn’t want to partner with someone who doesn’t have sex for fun and pleasure because she likes it. If she’s sexual but intentionally abstained until her thirties, that tells me she cares more about social repercussions or religion than self actualization, which seems cowardly, inauthentic, and unrelatable to me. I’m an adult and wouldn’t enjoy dating someone with the sexual acumen of a middle schooler. Or if she’s just that unattractive then I’m sorry but I probably wouldn…	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/04/26 02:08 PM
8	Do you think women's aversion of helping men in the dating/sexual context is biological or societal? Nah. That would be a dealbreaker for me	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/04/26 01:34 PM
2	Do you think women's aversion of helping men in the dating/sexual context is biological or societal? It seems like a weird challenge. I don’t know why it’s incredible that someone would introduce mutual friends, even if the introducer isn’t personally attracted to one or more of them. And IRL introductions probably do work the majority of the time (or at least more often than OLD)	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/04/26 01:34 PM
–	Have you ever realized that it's better for you to be alone than in a relationship? (if that's the case for you) I don’t think that’s true. The companionship plus the romantic and sexual benefits far outweigh having to compromise sometimes. I don’t want kids so that part doesn’t pertain to me. I don’t think it’s that much of an investment to have a partner compared to what I get out of it, and I think the vast majority of people couple up for the same reason.	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/04/26 01:56 AM
–	Have you ever realized that it's better for you to be alone than in a relationship? (if that's the case for you) Nope. I’m perfectly fine being single. I can go out and get laid, have complete freedom to do whatever I want all the time, and enjoy life on my terms. And that’s great. But none of that holds a candle to loving someone or being loved. I much prefer companionship, romance, and regular sex. Especially because with a long term partner the sex can be richer and more interesting as you learn how their body works and what they actually like . IMO “being single is so much better” is a psyop to keep me…	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/04/26 01:37 AM
–	Do relationships where one person has a best friend of their partner's gender work? I love my honey to death, but I don’t really care if he cheats. That’s how I am. If I’m with someone it’s because I want to be with them. If they betray my trust or overstep my boundaries, I’m not mad at them, it just instantly kills my interest in them. And the weird freaking out is because of patriarchy/mononormativity. Men are positioned to be aggro/protective of their babes, whereas straight girlies are encouraged to take offense to porn, instagram models in his feed, and have any fears abou…	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/04/26 12:46 AM
1	Why are there no "BP/non-redpill" dating advice media? Oh yeah that must be why…	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/04/26 07:06 PM
1	Why are there no "BP/non-redpill" dating advice media? You can disagree all you want, but you’re wrong. Red pill is repackaging the same trad con bullshit it always has (which is why it’s heavily associated with conservatism).	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/04/26 06:15 PM
1	Why are there no "BP/non-redpill" dating advice media? I think you’re misinformed on what “traditional values” means. it’s seeing through traditional values advise and seeing the reality of sexual dynamics. How? By reinforcing the idea that men win women’s affection through provision and protection? By reinforcing the idea that men who bag hot chicks are the picture of success while women who sleep with a lot of men are broken whores? By casting marriage as a duty that a submissive woman performs to keep her patriarchal husband figure happy? That’s …	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/04/26 05:52 PM
–	I feel that a lot more people would accept red pill ideas if they were framed differently. The response I typically see for “women only want the top 20% of men” is “okay? Why can’t everyone just be free to set their own standards? Do you want to make someone who isn’t into you date you? That’s weird. Why would you even want that?” I think if red pill reframed a lot of their messaging to be less sexist, racist, and homophobic (thinking of H.S. Declaring himself all of those things on the recent manosphere documentary) they’re message would be palatable to people who aren’t maga. But th…	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/04/26 05:26 PM
2	Why are there no "BP/non-redpill" dating advice media? I strongly disagree with that take. Red pill espouses traditional values, which are treated as the standard dating advice because they stress traditional gender norms. Most “dating advice” aligns with “traditional values/norms” (e.g. “women should play hard to get,” “don’t put out too quick or he’ll think you’re a slut,” “girls dont like guys, girls like cars and money,” “women want a 6-figure, 6 foot guy, with a 6 inch cock.”). Blue pill pushes back on these ideas because they presuppose sexist…	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/04/26 05:18 PM
1	There has never been a better time to be a man I actually disagree that marriages for love are a new conceit. I know I’m in the minority in that, and I’m no anthropologist or historian. But it feels like a narrative pushed by (mostly) conservative historians to me espousing a patriarchal understanding of what love and relationships are. Aka it trips my bullshit detector. Here’s why: We love the way we do today because of millions of years of evolution. People fell in love and partnered up for life before we were even people. And I don’t need…	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/04/26 05:14 PM
1	Do relationships where one person has a best friend of their partner's gender work? Honestly, I’m a cishet guy, but most of my LTRs have been with queer women. The thing I appreciate most about them is that it feels like gender comes secondary to our understanding of each other as “people.” From my POV, the more heteronormative relationships end up feeling objectifying and fetishizing. For instance, I love being appreciated for my gym body and I absolutely love kinky, dommy sex. I like being appreciated for doing “man shit” and I like having a subby girl to spend my time with a…	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/04/26 04:49 PM
1	Do relationships where one person has a best friend of their partner's gender work? I really don’t like the narrative that men aren’t capable of platonic relationships with women, especially at work. Firstly, it isn’t at all my experience that my “work wife” has any effect on my love life. I’ve had attractive and unattractive female friends my whole life. I’m perfectly capable of not fucking someone I’m attracted to if I’m in an exclusive relationship. And anyway, if I do want to fuck other people, I can. I just have to have a conversation about it, which can be uncomfortable b…	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/04/26 04:17 PM
-2	There has never been a better time to be a man There’s such a weird jealousy from red pill. They’re like “how come sex positive feminists want what we want?! You’re supposed to be ashamed of that.” And the only reason they disagree with it (despite wanting it so bad) is because there’s the caveat that women still expect respect and understanding from men who want the same things as them. I swear to god I think that’s the one thing preventing them from just being sex positive feminists. It’s absolutely delusional, like they require the hypocr…	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/04/26 04:04 PM
1	There has never been a better time to be a man Why not marry for love? What’s wrong with living with someone you trust, even if you don’t necessarily want kids?	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/04/26 03:59 PM
1	People who can't trust others at some point become a liability. I think that’s somewhat nullified by their update. I think they are saying that if you have gone so far down the rabbit hole that you can’t trust another man or woman because they are a man or a woman, you are the asshole. And with that, I agree. I don’t think it’s the same as but trusting someone who subscribes to a particular ideology.	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/04/26 12:44 AM
–	Most men are homoromantic heterosexuals, and most women are heteroromantic homosexuals. And if a spouse doesn’t know deeper stuff than that, there’s something wrong in the marriage. My hot take is that most people settle for unfulfilling sex lives, and to add to this, plenty of people settle for unfulfilling partnerships. To be clear, I agree with you that your deepest connection should be with your spouse. I just think many people fuck up early in their relationships and then ride out the dishonesty, and never know what it’s like to have a completely honest romantic relationship, …	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/04/26 10:26 PM
–	Most men are homoromantic heterosexuals, and most women are heteroromantic homosexuals. I actually agree with the premise, I just think they overstate the case. It’s not nearly the majority of men or women, but there’s an undercurrent of this in heteronormative culture which is reflected in the truism that “women’s value comes from their sexual desirability while men’s value derives from their proven accomplishments.”	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/04/26 12:47 PM
–	Most men are homoromantic heterosexuals, and most women are heteroromantic homosexuals. Comphet is a thing, but it’s still a crazy take (or wishful thinking on some people’s part) to think most women are lesbians but pretend to be straight to appease men.	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/04/26 12:40 PM
2	Question for women who believe watching porn in a relationship is tantamount to cheating, which of these following do you also consider cheating? Why/why not? I think it’s the same. It’s using your own insecurity as a justification to control your partner. I consider it abusive and would never date someone that insecure or uncomfortable with sex I agree, women watch porn and there are toys for men. I don’t think in any case that people should police their partner’s masturbation habits	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/04/26 11:15 PM
4	Question for women who believe watching porn in a relationship is tantamount to cheating, which of these following do you also consider cheating? Why/why not? Yeah it’s dumb as shit. I consider it the same as a guy not allowing a woman to use toys	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/04/26 09:51 PM
–	Does the female PPD community actually represent mainstream women? 10 really isn’t that many unless you grew up religious/conservative.	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/04/26 09:05 PM
2	Young women (18-24) dont want older men 35+ They pretend it’s about protecting them while infantilizing and insulting grown adults to protect their narrative: “girls are better than boys but also are inherent victims in every dynamic and also hate men and also hold no power whatsoever and but also they fend off a magnetic field of constant male sexual energy like a fucking air bender.” They do the same thing with sex workers.	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/04/26 08:47 PM
3	Young women (18-24) dont want older men 35+ Let me try to apply what you’ve said to what I asked. It is not wrong to say “homosexual relationships are normal” when the targets of those relationships (I think you mean gay people in relationships?) say otherwise. Or maybe I’m just confused by “say otherwise” because there’s kind of a double negative going on. But it sounds like you’re trying to say “it’s the people in age gap relationships who are the ones telling us all how bad and unfair they are.” Which just isn’t true. No one in an age …	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/04/26 06:44 PM
5	Young women (18-24) dont want older men 35+ Is it wrong to say that “homosexual relationships are normal” or that gay marriage is “what people want?”	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/04/26 06:33 PM
2	It’s hypocritical to be against FGM but not care about circumcision This seems hyperbolic. I’m circumcised and while I basically agree with the philosophy of why it shouldn’t happen, I’ve never had issues experiencing pleasure, I don’t remember the operation any more than I recall my umbilical cord getting snipped, and I’m personally thankful that my cock looks nice and that I don’t have to clean under the foreskin. I understand that it’s cultural, but to me uncircumcised dicks look gross (but to each their own). Also, hearing these discussions is sort of like h…	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/04/26 06:32 PM
5	Comp heterosexuality is much more of a man thing That is gross if that’s what they’re doing, but I’ll say as a cishet kinkster I kind of understand why, in a room full of queer people, you might be like “I’m really more heteroflexible than anything.” Especially as heteroflexible isn’t well defined. I’m basically 100% straight but queer culture is a lot more relatable to me than heteronormativity. I’m sure there are guys who would consider me queer compared to them, but that goes back to compulsory heterosexuality. For some guys, receiving a ri…	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/04/26 06:19 PM
5	Young women (18-24) dont want older men 35+ What does the action of “normalizing” really mean in this context? Shaming/stigmatizing/bitching about people who have age gap relations, homosexual relationships, polyamorous relationships, or any other alternative relationship is the active thing. Leaving people alone is not active, so it really isn’t the same thing. You’re encouraging people to take a negative action and socially harm others.	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/04/26 06:01 PM
10	Young women (18-24) dont want older men 35+ Framing it as “normalizing” is bullshit. What you’re really talking about is stigmatizing people for the sex/relationships that you aren’t a part of. Everyone should oppose hostility towards sexual preferences they don’t understand and that don’t affect them.	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/04/26 05:52 PM
2	Having casual sex with men makes them respect you less and treat you worse This content was anonymized and mass deleted with Redact	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/04/26 02:19 AM
2	Having casual sex with men makes them respect you less and treat you worse This content was anonymized and mass deleted with Redact	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/04/26 07:36 PM
13	Why do women care about men slut-shaming them? Why shouldn’t they care about a sexist double standard? Most sexism derives from this antiquated bullshit Also, sexism aside, why shouldn’t we call out hypocritical faux morality?	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/04/26 05:40 PM
5	Having casual sex with men makes them respect you less and treat you worse This content was anonymized and mass deleted with Redact	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/04/26 05:37 PM
8	Having casual sex with men makes them respect you less and treat you worse It just makes her a misandrist. Most slutty guys don’t lose respect for the women they sleep with. This seems like bullshit peddled by women who get rejected a lot and incels who see sex itself as disrespectful.	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/04/26 04:08 PM
2	Having casual sex with men makes them respect you less and treat you worse This content was anonymized and mass deleted with Redact	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/04/26 04:04 PM
3	Having casual sex with men makes them respect you less and treat you worse This content was anonymized and mass deleted with Redact	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/04/26 04:00 PM
7	Having casual sex with men makes them respect you less and treat you worse This content was anonymized and mass deleted with Redact	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/04/26 03:55 PM
5	Having casual sex with men makes them respect you less and treat you worse This content was anonymized and mass deleted with Redact	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/04/26 03:51 PM
–	Good women don't exist in the West anymore because women have their cake and eat it too Why are you calling people “cucks” in this conversation when you’re the one sitting in the corner crying about all the sex women have and inviting all the emasculating insults hurled at you? Questions: who told you sex is bad, and why do you believe them? Also, why do you judge women so bitterly for wanting the same thing you seem to want so bad? If I could wave a magic wand and cure you of this idea that it’s disgusting and bad for women to have sex, you could have a whole different, way more f…	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/04/26 12:02 AM
–	Good women don't exist in the West anymore because women have their cake and eat it too The virgin claim is one thing (which I also disagree with) but to say “no good woman is on social media” is fuckin bonkers. Like, go be Amish I guess?	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/04/26 11:42 PM
2	Do we all really mean the same thing when we say ‘dominant’? Right. I’m saying I feel like it’s a cop out to say “I like dominance but not domineering” and then just define domineering as “dominance, but bad.” It warrants a discussion of what makes some actions domineering and others authentically dominant.	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/04/26 11:26 PM
4	"Misandry is a response to misogyny" is complete BS, and here's proof Making sexist statements is sexist. It promotes hate.	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/04/26 09:33 PM
–	Women doing OF is fine. But they can't blame men if they ever feel regrets though. People labeled SWERFs are full of shit and I’ve never talked to a sex worker who appreciated being told they can’t consent or that their profession is just them getting “pay raped.” Swerfs are just a hate group like any other.	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/04/26 07:57 PM
6	Do we all really mean the same thing when we say ‘dominant’? I agree, and was thinking about this while watching that manosphere documentary. All the manosphere influencers had “one way monogamy.” Each time they tell Louis about it, there’s a sort of cheeky smile they have about it, like they know that they’ve appropriated the “woke” language of ENM to trick their partners. It’s frustrating watching these scenes as a blue pill male dom because the whole time you’re thinking “just admit it’s a kink! Stop pretending ‘fucking 2000 women’ is some “natural ord…	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/04/26 11:57 AM
5	Do we all really mean the same thing when we say ‘dominant’? I think you just need to clarify the difference between dominance and domineering. I basically agree with you that there should be a distinction, but the distinction can’t just be that “dominance” is the power imbalance that is good while “domineering” is the power performance that is bad. You need to examine what makes one acceptable and the other not acceptable.	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/04/26 11:11 AM
1	how often do you see "pick-me" behaviour, both irl and on the internet? I see it all the time. But these terms also get overused to the point of just being a blanket insult for anyone who doesn’t fully decenter the opposite sex. As if everyone has a moral obligation to never give men/women a chance or try to understand them or like them.	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/04/26 01:27 PM
–	CMV: Women who cannot orgasm through penetration don't experience the same level of bonding/emotional attachment to their partner I don’t think it’s really a skill issue. I’ve had partners who cum easily just from vaginal, and I don’t think we had all those other things you mentioned aside from the equipment. But they’re few and far between. And between them I’ve had long term loving relationships with women who just need oral, manual, or toys. I do think probably a lot of women probably learn one way to cum and just focus on that, and then it becomes a sort of feedback loop where it’s the only way they can finish. But I d…	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/04/26 11:49 PM
–	CMV: Women who cannot orgasm through penetration don't experience the same level of bonding/emotional attachment to their partner OP’s argument, if I’m understanding it correctly, is that non-coital orgasms don’t produce the same pair bonding, because the brain activity during orgasm doesn’t fire as prominently around neural pathways associated with pair bonding (a “neurons that fire together wire together” argument). I think a better explanation is that women who cum from vaginal penetration are happier because men are more likely to pound pussy, because that’s what most guys like. NOT because clitoral orgasms aren’t as s…	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/04/26 11:02 PM
–	CMV: Women who cannot orgasm through penetration don't experience the same level of bonding/emotional attachment to their partner I think there’s an obvious reason women who orgasm from penetration are more likely to report relationship satisfaction. They’re more likely to have frequent orgasms. I don’t think that implies that the orgasms themselves are stronger. I think it implies that men are more likely to perform the sex acts that get them off. You could also look at women who cum from anal, which seems like it would follow similar physicality to vaginal penetration, but IMO feels more intimate because of the added tab…	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/04/26 10:11 PM
1	Immature male sexuality: "Affirm my value by devaluing yourself" Homophobia effects queer people in the same way. Similarly, arguments pointing at “health concerns,” evolution, and discomfort with their sexual choices aren’t relevant to the morality of stigmatizing them.	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/04/26 01:04 PM
0	Immature male sexuality: "Affirm my value by devaluing yourself" You avoid them, but I’m still not clear on if you find them more or less attractive based on their sexual past. In either case, I don’t see how your attraction or aversion toward people should impact the way they are treated in society. My point was, “the idea that sex empowers men and disempowers women is the root cause of all other sexism and the underlying social mechanism used to justify controlling women under the guise of protecting them.”	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/04/26 11:49 AM
0	Immature male sexuality: "Affirm my value by devaluing yourself" Are you saying that you find women who have a lot of sex less attractive and men who have a lot of sex more attractive?	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/04/26 11:11 AM
0	Immature male sexuality: "Affirm my value by devaluing yourself" I don’t see how any of that is relevant to your estimation of someone’s worth, especially as we live in 2026 and practicing safe sex is relatively easy	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/04/26 10:54 AM
4	A lot of feminist identifying women are red-pillers when it comes to male gender roles. How are bi men irrelevant, especially in the context of assessing how performative masculine men are expected to be? That seems relevant to red pill	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/04/26 12:47 AM
2	A lot of feminist identifying women are red-pillers when it comes to male gender roles. Radical feminists are red pillred when it comes to female gender roles too. They hate sluts sex workers and trans people for basically the same reasons extreme conservatives do. They reinforce misogyny the same way red pill does and they infantalize and purity test women the same way red pill does. Because both ideologies rely on a belief that society should be structured around gender, they just disagree on which gender. But in either case that involves codifying and protecting gender roles ove…	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/04/26 11:26 PM
–	What keeps men coming back to this sub? I feel like the 0 upvotes 200 comments thing goes back and forth between men and women. Like it depends on the day. I also feel like progressive men don’t have a voice in gender politics. Most feminist spaces are exclusionary of male voices much more than literally hateful voices like TERFs and SWERFs, so anti-sexist men don’t really have a platform. This is a space where I can challenge red pill without having to blindly agree with blatantly misandrist takes or stuff that amounts to hate speech…	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/04/26 10:10 PM
–	fat women are hypocrites Fat women aren’t my preference, but there’s a difference between finding someone (un)attractive and treating them shittily because of that. Heavyset women absolutely get treated like shit, mostly by men but also by society at large, and I think it’s fair for them to take issue with that. I don’t think taking issue with that requires them to also be attracted to fat men.	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/04/26 08:56 PM
3	From who would you rather take advice? They could also mean “Chad” vs the less conventionally attractive guy who learned how to pick up women	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/04/26 05:34 PM
1	Men are less emotionally open and more prone to bottle things up because women are not ready to see some parts of men and straight disagree with some of their feelings. Yes, people’s responses can be sexist. I would consider a guy who automatically victim blames an SA survivor sexist for the same reasons. Would you agree?	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/04/26 03:40 PM
1	Men are less emotionally open and more prone to bottle things up because women are not ready to see some parts of men and straight disagree with some of their feelings. No. Contributing a perspective of gender equality rather than gender essentialism is how you deconstruct sexist rhetoric and de-escalate the gender war.	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/04/26 03:18 PM
1	Men are less emotionally open and more prone to bottle things up because women are not ready to see some parts of men and straight disagree with some of their feelings. I didn’t describe invalidating their perspective at any point. I explained why you would go cold instead of challenging someone’s sexist interpretation of something you told them. In your opinion, are those two things the same? I think the tendency to equivocate things like that is a good indicator that someone has drank the gender war koolaid. They’re more concerned about protecting their narrative than actually relating to or understanding another human.	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/04/26 02:42 PM
1	Men are less emotionally open and more prone to bottle things up because women are not ready to see some parts of men and straight disagree with some of their feelings. Except you didn’t, because you didn’t argue the point, because they are obviously sexist, so you instead walled off emotionally à la the dynamic described in the post that we’re talking about.	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/04/26 02:25 PM
1	Men are less emotionally open and more prone to bottle things up because women are not ready to see some parts of men and straight disagree with some of their feelings. I’ve actually said the opposite; that I would not reflexively defend a man beating and blinding a woman, and also that I don’t think witnessing something like that is the same as saying morning it. There are two axes to this conversation. There’s men vs. women, and there’s sexist vs. anti-sexist. I am anti-sexist. I don’t condone it regardless of which direction it goes in, because both misogyny and misandry reinforce patriarchal gender norms. For instance, a woman invalidating men’s perspective…	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/04/26 12:18 PM
0	Men are less emotionally open and more prone to bottle things up because women are not ready to see some parts of men and straight disagree with some of their feelings. Can you point to me the sexist thing that I’ve said? All I did was provide an example and all you’ve done is say “no, that’s not valid.”	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/04/26 11:48 AM
1	Men are less emotionally open and more prone to bottle things up because women are not ready to see some parts of men and straight disagree with some of their feelings. Yeah. He just has to find a safe, fake reason to do it. Because he doesn’t owe a sexist vulnerability. Which is unfortunate for her also, because she’ll probably have a lot of these relationships where guys go cold and break up with her for vague reasons, and she’ll lack the tools to understand why.	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/04/26 11:46 AM
4	Immature male sexuality: "Affirm my value by devaluing yourself" Just to put it out there, this is, IMO, the original sin of sexism. The idea that sex empowers men and disempowers women is the root cause of all other sexism and the underlying social mechanism used to justify controlling women under the guise of protecting them from their own behaviors.	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/04/26 11:37 AM
0	Men are less emotionally open and more prone to bottle things up because women are not ready to see some parts of men and straight disagree with some of their feelings. No. I’m saying that a person who automatically reframes abuse through a hyper sexist lens shows an inability to empathize and a willingness to distort things. That creates, as OP put it, “a reasonable anxiety” that precludes emotional honesty. Put simply, it means you can’t break up with them over that disagreement because they’ll recast you as a misogynist, so the smart thing to do is adopt a stoic persona, create emotional distance, and break up with them for something vague later. The alterna…	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/04/26 10:22 AM
17	Immature male sexuality: "Affirm my value by devaluing yourself" Not to split hairs, but I think the female equivalent would be closer to “you can never have loved another woman.” Occasionally you do see that type of sentiment from women, but it’s obviously immature for the same reason. I wish fewer men would tolerate guys shit talking women for wanting the same things they want.	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/04/26 04:16 AM
2	Men are less emotionally open and more prone to bottle things up because women are not ready to see some parts of men and straight disagree with some of their feelings. I don’t see criticizing sexism as contributing to gender wars. I think it’s actually the answer. Suggesting that criticizing misandry is the same as endorsing misogyny is just an attempt to unfairly silence opposition voices.	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/04/26 04:09 AM
3	Immature male sexuality: "Affirm my value by devaluing yourself" The premise that women devalue themselves by sleeping with men is sexist to begin with. No doubt, plenty of men and women buy into it, but that’s an extension of broader sexist attitudes in society, largely stemming from men’s Madonna/whore complexes. The idea that it’s healthy and normal to worry about your partner’s sexual past and that it’s unhealthy and abnormal to have a sexual past is ridiculous. People should sleep with who they want, and everyone else should shut the fuck up about whethe…	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/04/26 12:36 AM
1	Men are less emotionally open and more prone to bottle things up because women are not ready to see some parts of men and straight disagree with some of their feelings. Yes, I know. My point is not that men should malinger in these relationships (I think that’d be closer to the red pill take: “just never be vulnerable with your partner”) just that this is an example of how sexism prevents men from being vulnerable in relationships.	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/04/26 11:36 PM
1	Men are less emotionally open and more prone to bottle things up because women are not ready to see some parts of men and straight disagree with some of their feelings. I feel like there’s some misreading of that comment. I just mean he can’t allow the disagreement about the frying pan woman to be the reason the relationship ends. He has to wall off and find a different reason, or she can character assassinate him as a misogynist. Genuinely, if you were a man, do you think it would be safe to break up with a woman for being a misandrist?	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/04/26 11:29 PM
3	Men are less emotionally open and more prone to bottle things up because women are not ready to see some parts of men and straight disagree with some of their feelings. Except it isn’t the same because Women aren’t the ones who are already expected to project stoicism and invulnerability. Witnessing someone do something and relating that is not the equal and opposite of suggesting that someone is sexist for having witnessed it (that, IMO, implies a much more ingrained narrative that probably can’t be deprogrammed). By rooting the conversation in a bigoted perspective, she’s shown you the bottom of any and every eventual argument: she is right because she is the…	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/04/26 11:25 PM
4	Men are less emotionally open and more prone to bottle things up because women are not ready to see some parts of men and straight disagree with some of their feelings. Vulnerability relates to gender war stuff. Would you be vulnerable with a man who, when you brought up a customer who was beaten and blinded by a man, launched into an attack on that women and rationalizing why the man was maybe justified in attacking her, and suggested it was misandrist of you to even share that story? Absolutely not. It would showcase to you that the man is protective of “men” as a group and of a narrative around men, and that he feels owed allegiance in that protection, and t…	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/04/26 09:47 PM
3	Men are less emotionally open and more prone to bottle things up because women are not ready to see some parts of men and straight disagree with some of their feelings. I agree, leave. But that sort of ignores that she has created a dynamic in which an honest relationship can’t exist. By reflexively blaming the dude who got frying panned as an abuser and the perpetrator as a victims, and implying that to not share this interpretation would be misogynistic, she’s created a dynamic in which the guy can’t assume vulnerability will be met with empathy. That positions the man to either acquiesce on everything or leave, which unfortunately denies her the emotional ho…	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/04/26 08:02 PM
1	Women doing OF is fine. But they can't blame men if they ever feel regrets though. Also, the ex SWers complaining about it are mostly women who had an OF for like a month and didn’t make enough money on it. Actual sex workers will tell you they face the most hate from SWERFS.	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/04/26 06:48 PM
5	"The Red Pill takes advantage of lonely men", yet you don't show the same energy for dating apps, the porn industry, sex workers, twitch thots, etc. who all primarily target lonely men to make profits Great answer. My only difference would be that I think the best way to address the loneliness epidemic is actually to tone down the gender war rhetoric. Less radicalized men and women equals more healthy relationships equals fewer misandrists and misogynist. Stoking the gender war does the opposite, and feeds into the fascist machine in a divide and conquer way. It just makes people into reactionaries who want to make the world less comfortable for those who fall outside of heteronormative ideal…	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/04/26 06:44 PM
0	Why do you think so many of you guys fall for the "just world" fallacy? I studied people’s belief in a just world long before it entered PPD discourse, so I want to clarify some points. I consider BJW a theory in the sense that gravity is a “theory.” While it explains victim blaming, it’s more than that. Conceptually, BJW describes a heuristic. It’s a mental shortcut that makes calculating most outcomes unnecessary. It is culturally heritable, like language, and similar to language in that almost no one lacks it. One way of conceiving of BJW is that its absence is t…	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/04/26 06:17 PM
7	Men are less emotionally open and more prone to bottle things up because women are not ready to see some parts of men and straight disagree with some of their feelings. Fair enough, and this is a good point to bring it back home. I think this is emblematic of the point OP makes about how women exclude men from vulnerability: good luck explaining that there is a reasonable anxiety and shyness there, because women are going to disagree AND find it mad pathetic AND maybe even sexist. I mean, I genuinely ask you to reread our conversation and see the ways that, from a man’s perspective, those things are happening in our dialogue. It seems like the idea of having to…	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/04/26 05:46 PM
1	Men are less emotionally open and more prone to bottle things up because women are not ready to see some parts of men and straight disagree with some of their feelings. I feel like you’re minimizing the impact this could have on a man’s dating prospects, and also his personal and professional reputation. I think if you were a man you would absolutely care to preserve your reputation as a safe person, and I’d be surprised if you knew even one woman who doesn’t care about a man having an unsafe reputation.	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/04/26 05:35 PM
1	Men are less emotionally open and more prone to bottle things up because women are not ready to see some parts of men and straight disagree with some of their feelings. I don’t understand what you aren’t understanding. If you were a woman, would you date a man who had a post about him in AWDTSG or tea app? If not, then that is the answer to the question “why not just break up with her?” It’s why it would be risky and naive to openly break up with her for being sexist.	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/04/26 05:13 PM
2	Men are less emotionally open and more prone to bottle things up because women are not ready to see some parts of men and straight disagree with some of their feelings. That’s exactly the issue. Outside of gender politics, her “feminism” is just the inability to see men as full people. She can’t conceive of her own gender politics as playing into the gender war.	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/04/26 05:09 PM
2	Men are less emotionally open and more prone to bottle things up because women are not ready to see some parts of men and straight disagree with some of their feelings. I think there’s a heightened danger when breaking up with someone sexist, especially when kink is involved. Also, respectfully, I think this is the equivalent of a guy saying “women really have no reason to think men are dangerous.” Would you date a guy posted about in AWDTSG?	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/04/26 04:20 PM
6	Men are less emotionally open and more prone to bottle things up because women are not ready to see some parts of men and straight disagree with some of their feelings. why would you want a relationship with someone who would hate you if they knew your true feelings? That’s my point entirely. Hypothetically, imagine you’re a man in a perfect relationship with a woman. She’s funny, smart, sexy, and matches your kink and libido. She makes a lot of misandrist jokes, which you take in stride because she obviously doesn’t regard you as a “straight man” that she makes the jokes about. You’re the exception. She loves you and looks at you with a mix of admiration and r…	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/04/26 02:25 PM
4	Men that want to be seen as "hookup material" should only date women who hookup with them While I generally agree, I think there’s a big contingent of young christian values men with Madonna/whore complexes, and that’s basically what OP is calling out.	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/04/26 01:52 PM
0	Men are less emotionally open and more prone to bottle things up because women are not ready to see some parts of men and straight disagree with some of their feelings. Real love is found where people make exceptions to the dating game framework and see each other as “people” rather than “men” or “women.”	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/04/26 01:42 PM
8	Men are less emotionally open and more prone to bottle things up because women are not ready to see some parts of men and straight disagree with some of their feelings. I think OP is spot on with this being why men bottle up though. You can’t be real and raw with someone who will label you a misogynist if misandry is a dealbreaker for you. That puts you in a position where you aren’t allowed to require empathy or vulnerability in a relationship. You just have to wall off and find a different, acceptable reason to break up.	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/04/26 01:19 PM
14	Men are less emotionally open and more prone to bottle things up because women are not ready to see some parts of men and straight disagree with some of their feelings. Hard disagree. Misogyny almost never goes unchallenged in leftist spaces while misandry almost always gets a pass, if not an endorsement. The result has been that leftist men don’t have a voice in feminism or gender politics more broadly, so it’s just red pill vs radfems. This pushes young men to the right because, on the left, applying the same logic you use for women on men is seen as oppressing women. ETA: so tolerating misandry has not led to LESS misandry. It just creates more misandry and …	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/04/26 01:07 PM
4	Women calling men “gay” is an insult I’m probably in the minority here, but I actually think that even if people could choose to flip their gender preferences a lot would find the grass isn’t greener. I’m sure some things are easier, but plenty of bi people try switching teams and come back.	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/04/26 10:51 PM
2	Women calling men “gay” is an insult Agreed. When it comes to people suggesting that almost no person of the opposite gender is attractive, or that their own gender is so obviously superior and more desirable, it’s reasonable to call into question the sexist’s orientation. Not because there’s anything wrong with being queer, but because their opinion isn’t relevant to heterosexual dating if they aren’t attracted to the opposite sex (and if they are attracted and just saying it to stir shit, then they’re opinion still isn’t relevant…	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/04/26 10:36 PM
8	Being honest about adultery is a good thing, not a bad thing. Or to have the freedom to sleep with other people without owing anyone an explanation.	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/04/26 10:16 AM
10	Being honest about adultery is a good thing, not a bad thing. I think the thing I’ll never understand is: why would you even want to remain in a relationship with someone you can’t be honest with? Like what are you even getting out of it if you have to pretend to be someone else? Don’t you want to feel loved for being who you are? Maybe some people just feel entirely unlovable. And that’s understandable, but it doesn’t justify betraying someone else’s trust rather than simply being honest with them and dealing with whatever fall out.	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/04/26 10:07 AM
10	Being honest about adultery is a good thing, not a bad thing. I can’t relate to this sociopathic way of thinking. But aside from that, I’m not worried that my life will be worse if I am open and honest with my partner, nor am I worried that I won’t be able to find another woman “worthy” of me if I decide to leave.	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/04/26 10:04 AM
16	Being honest about adultery is a good thing, not a bad thing. In that case why not divorce? Also, the effort of trying to repair a marriage after adultery is greater (and less expensive, btw) than the fort of trying therapy.	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/04/26 09:27 AM
18	Being honest about adultery is a good thing, not a bad thing. You could take this one step further and say being honest about your wants/needs before is a good thing. I disagree that sometimes you have to commit adultery. Why not try other things first, like opening the marriage?	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/04/26 09:22 AM
1	Q4BP: What are you doing about the gender wars content crisis? I disagree that feminism is inherently sexist. Liberal feminism is explicitly anti-sexist, and framed the debate around equality for men and women, and did a pretty good job achieving its goals for western women. There may always be crazy misandrists, but it isn’t crazy to imagine the backlash to this iteration of feminism will be a version that’s less idol focused and better articulates the tenets of intersectional feminism to include all people.	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/04/26 01:59 AM
1	Q4BP: What are you doing about the gender wars content crisis? Sorry for being so long winded	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/04/26 01:54 AM
1	Q4BP: What are you doing about the gender wars content crisis? Go for it. I know it’s a bold take and maybe it’s overreaching. Also, I added a little parens that includes some buzzwords but that I feel is relevant. Lastly, you seem to have a background in feminism, but an interest in effecting social justice (which I share). So I want to put this out there: Because the people in this sub aren’t strictly feminists, misogynists, or even necessarily interested in gender politics in any philosophical or academic sense, incels and radfem arguments don’t work her…	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/04/26 01:54 AM
2	Q4BP: What are you doing about the gender wars content crisis? It depends how you mean “you guys.” I’m a sex positive, blue collar leftist. IMO sex sells. The only thing you need to do to get men on board with feminism is cut out all the illiberal, sexist, sex negative parts of it. It is not hard to sell “women should be allowed to have sex without being socially (or literally) policed” to men. It is not hard to sell “kinky sex is fine as long as it’s with consenting adults.” It is not hard to sell, “a man’s whole status shouldn’t be reduced to the number o…	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/04/26 10:40 PM
1	Q4BP: What are you doing about the gender wars content crisis? For two: women need to get on board calling out exclusionary feminism and creating safe spaces for men to discuss gender politics with women who treat men and women equally. Without that, men have no reason to discuss gender politics with women, so they turn to the men who will discuss it amongst themselves and get radicalized (much like women who only discuss gender politics with other women).	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/04/26 11:18 PM
2	Q4BP: What are you doing about the gender wars content crisis? Misandry is the biggest instigator for young men to be radicalized. It is validating for young, romantically unsuccessful men to hear misogynistic takes and to be provided red pill “tools” to help them better navigate dating. These “tools” are often sexist ideas like “women don’t like sex because it is inherently harmful and degrading to them,” “sex is a transaction in which women mete out physical intimacy in exchange for material provision and status,” “a man who sleeps with a lot of women is …	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/04/26 01:26 PM
1	Men on here are contradictory I wouldn’t call it “artwork.” Also I love the implication that Marge isn’t good enough for… Homer?	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/04/26 08:55 PM
1	Average men have nothing to offer women Why indeed…	/r/PurplePillDebate	31/03/26 10:07 PM
–	Would you get into serious relationship with a girl who has done ONS/FWB before? Yeah, cause I’m not a sexist hypocrite.	/r/PurplePillDebate	31/03/26 06:33 PM
1	Men dont being anything to the table Reducing a man’s worth to his productivity and a woman’s worth to her reproductive potential. How utterly red pill/radfem.	/r/PurplePillDebate	31/03/26 11:46 AM
–	What’s up with the Asian male stereotypes? Fetishes typically play off of existing power dynamics and social preconceptions. Examining the underlying stereotypes involved in race play of any kind is always uncomfortable. No doubt, in the west Asian men are seen as comparatively less masculine, probably because on average they aren’t as hairy and have smaller builds. I don’t think there’s anything inherently wrong with getting off to a big white guy pounding the fuck out of a tiny Asian man’s asshole, or vice versa. People don’t pick what…	/r/PurplePillDebate	31/03/26 03:37 AM
8	Men: would this be a dealbreaker for commitment? I don’t buy into red pill. But when a woman is using you it’s typically obvious. It’s things like only ever meeting for dinner, and only if you’re paying. She acts like big asks are casual and isn’t impressed if you oblige. If you find yourself wondering whether or not she’s using you, she probably is. Side story on this: I’d been dating a girl for a couple months. We had mutual friends, had sex a few times, and then I started to feel some distance. Three weekends in a row we met for dinner and …	/r/PurplePillDebate	31/03/26 02:01 AM
–	You're just not that guy. Its ok. There's nothing wrong that. I think you misunderstand me (in fairness I have a couple typos in there). I’m saying that the idea that giving up on women/dating is “the best decision they ever made” sounds completely wrong. Opening yourself up to love teaches and creates growth. Shutting love out creates comfort and atrophy.	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/03/26 03:36 PM
–	You're just not that guy. Its ok. There's nothing wrong that. Seriously. I read the “this was the best decision I ever made part” and think it’s probably the exact opposite. Hey probably shut themselves off from growing as a person, learning how to live and be loved properly, and fostered an uncrossable abyss between themselves and women.	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/03/26 01:57 PM
-1	We need to stop calling it a “male loneliness epidemic” It is largely affecting both groups though. So when you say, “how come women say they are too independent to be impacted by the epidemic but also claim to suffer from the epidemic?” The answer is “the women who claim to be impacted are correct that it affects both groups, and the women who claim otherwise are either mistaken or lying.”	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/03/26 05:05 PM
8	Divorce rhetoric reveals that motherhood is "worth less" I view becoming a tradwife as sort of like guys becoming “entrepreneurs.” Both are sort of leaning into the patriarchal ideal of what success should look like for a maximally masculine man and maximally feminine woman. It’s not like no one should be allowed to do that, and I don’t think there should necessarily be social stigma against it. But it’s unlikely to work out, and even if it does work out it will not be the life of luxuriant leisure so often advertised to you on social media. It seems …	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/03/26 03:09 PM
5	Are online gender wars just lower class men arguing with upper middle class women? The sources I find have it at 67% women studying social sciences in college (so twice), with 75-79% of psychology and sociology students female. That tracks with what I observed when I was getting my degrees. Other sources show the 60-40% split you reference. My point isn’t to say that women can’t do stem or that men can’t do social sciences. Just that it is true that social sciences are pretty female dominated, at least in the U.S.	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/03/26 04:53 PM
3	Are online gender wars just lower class men arguing with upper middle class women? Twice as many women study social sciences as men in college	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/03/26 04:23 PM
2	Are online gender wars just lower class men arguing with upper middle class women? Hard agree. Though I think the expression of those masculine cliches loses its luster pretty quick. Like I totally get why a teenager might get swept up in the mystique of her dreamy, all-or-nothing, gang banger boyfriend. A woman in her 20s should probably have a healthier skepticism of his willingness to use intimidation and violence by that point. If she’s still into that in her 30s, she’s probably right there with him in terms of living on the edge and willingness to recklessly harm people.	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/03/26 04:22 PM
3	Sex is a trap, especially for men. Wordplay. They are saying the response was performative “edgy.” Like saying “don’t get dizzy looking down on us from that high horse.”	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/03/26 04:03 PM
4	The left is worse for women Fascism is right wing authoritarian. Anyone who thinks fascists are “left wing” has either drank the koolaid or is repeating the lie because they want to muddy the fascie waters.	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/03/26 03:44 AM
2	People aren’t afraid of commitment in 2026, they’re afraid of bad commitment This content was anonymized and mass deleted with Redact	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/03/26 12:08 AM
–	Structural issues are a major driver of young men’s dating problems Your political analogy is actually perfect, because conservative elites are always tricking their base into voting against their own interests. They convince poor people to vote against raising the minimum wage. They convince them to hate education and social safety nets and reframe everything as if change is the impediment to poor people becoming millionaires. Why raise taxes for the rich? Aren’t you going to be rich one day? Similarly, the manosphere are the ones telling romantically disadvant…	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/03/26 10:41 PM
3	What’s a common mainstream/blue pill dating belief that you think is incorrect? Yeah! Get out of here with that thinkslop	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/03/26 10:05 PM
3	Being offish or disinterested around women is not as attractive as men on here often think it is “Be hungry, not thirsty.” Yesterday I was in a cantina and a gorgeous woman sat a couple seats to my left (I would say out of my league, but once in a while you punch above your weight class, y’know). She knocked over a cup of ice cubes, and I offered her some of my napkins to pick them up. I was actually trying to pay and leave when this happened, but the bartenders were inattentive and she started chatting me. She asked which gym I go to, and when I returned the question she said she doesn’t g…	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/03/26 09:56 PM
8	What's the most annoying debate tactic you see from the opposite gender on this sub? I don’t feel like doing research, but a good example is when RP insists that women prefer serial killers and rapists (and they’ll name like Charles Manson or whoever the fuck) as part of an argument for alpha fucks beta bucks or some shit. It’s an absolutely delusional take that I see RP insist as a truism, and I don’t think I’ve ever seen them provide a coherent rationale. Though it’s true that I can’t imagine a rationale that would move me at all on the idea that women prefer violent psychos…	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/03/26 01:37 AM
2	What's the most annoying debate tactic you see from the opposite gender on this sub? I think there’s a place in debate for science and data, but man is it frustrating when someone uses it as the final word rather than a supporting argument. Especially because scientists and scholars know that it is not hard to twist statistics, which means it’s actually more important to challenge and critique methodology and to understand the biases that the scientists themselves may bring to the table when designing studies.	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/03/26 01:32 AM
0	What's the most annoying debate tactic you see from the opposite gender on this sub? *compelled	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/03/26 01:30 AM
0	“There are more good men than good women” and “a good man is just an average woman” - what is the metric for good in these statements You wanna reread my comment?	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/03/26 04:26 PM
–	Blue-pillers: Can you see that blue-pill & feminism has hurt women? That’s how I am. I recognize that had I been born into a different experience with a different body, I’d have experiences that are different than mine. That doesn’t mean everything is 100% excused but it does mean that I put myself in others shoes in a kind of “there but for the grace of god go I” way.	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/03/26 02:01 PM
2	“There are more good men than good women” and “a good man is just an average woman” - what is the metric for good in these statements I’m saying that women probably do assault as often as men, it just doesn’t get treated with the severity that male violence does because it isn’t as consequential. Furthermore, I’m saying that pointing to “violence” as proof of female moral superiority while ignoring the way society genders violence to be male is ignorant and sexist. It’s akin to pointing to poor communities and saying, “there’s more crime there because criminality is an inherent quality if poor people’s genes.”	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/03/26 12:34 PM
1	“There are more good men than good women” and “a good man is just an average woman” - what is the metric for good in these statements That misses my central point, which is that people are socialized not to recognize female on male violence as violence. It doesn’t get reported or treated as an actual crime by perpetrators, victims, or police, so statistics comparing female to male violence can’t be accurate.	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/03/26 12:05 PM
–	2025 pornhub analytics and trans attraction I don’t think it’s that different really. I am generally more focused on the woman, so the male performer matters less. Most porn is shot with the woman as the focal point which makes it easier to project yourself onto the giver. But if there’s a guy who looks like me or whose dick looks like mine it’s easier to imagine being him.	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/03/26 12:00 PM
–	2025 pornhub analytics and trans attraction I think that the pornhub analytics sort of reveal it to be true	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/03/26 11:33 AM
0	[CMV] Aligning with Radical Feminism: Why the Logic of the Sexual Revolution Necessitates the Death of the Marriage Contract. I’m plenty familiar, thanks	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/03/26 02:54 AM
1	[CMV] Aligning with Radical Feminism: Why the Logic of the Sexual Revolution Necessitates the Death of the Marriage Contract. I agree, but hate radical feminists. I view the key distinction between radical feminism and liberal feminism as inclusivity. Radicalization occurs like a tipping point, where the goal of feminism shifts from being equality to hate.	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/03/26 02:24 AM
0	“There are more good men than good women” and “a good man is just an average woman” - what is the metric for good in these statements Both are sexist statements. I’m suspicious of any statistic or metric used specifically to cast one gender as socioculturally superior to the other. Are men more violent? I actually don’t know. I’ve never hit a woman, but I’ve been punched or hit in the face three times. I don’t know that there are more Chris Browns than Taylor Frankie Pauls. Even in that case, the guy offers to go to jail instead of her. I think men’s violence is more often consequential, but this sort of overlooks psychologica…	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/03/26 02:11 AM
–	Blue-pillers: Can you see that blue-pill & feminism has hurt women? Not exactly. Identical twins DNA aren’t actually strictly identical. They have a handful of mutations that occur independent of each other. But aside from that extremely small difference, I don’t think it’s possible for them to have identical experiences their entire lives. E.g. they can go to the same school but only one can get picked first or last for soccer, or have someone ask them out. That kind of thing.	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/03/26 01:38 AM
–	Dating sucks and the “friendzone” is cool True. But I think that’s partly reflective of the dating market today. People go out into the world, experience sexism as it relates to romance/sex/dating, and then come here to discuss it. My take would be that Men vs Women is only one axis and people neglect the other, more important axis of “sexist vs. non-sexist.” This gets further complicated by blue pill being the default “non-sexist” position, but harboring basically all of the people who are sexist against men, resulting in benign sexism…	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/03/26 12:01 AM
–	Blue-pillers: Can you see that blue-pill & feminism has hurt women? I’m not them, but I’m also a blue pill determinist. Simply put, my argument would be that your actions are determined by your neurochemistry, which is the result of chemistry, which is the result of physics. You can always go smaller in explaining these physical reactions (e.g. molecular, subatomic, quantum) and what started them, but none of the explanations leave room to introduce an element of “free will” as we think of it. On a related note, brain diseases and TBI also kind of disprove the c…	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/03/26 11:06 PM
–	Dating sucks and the “friendzone” is cool I think a huge difference is how old you were ten years ago. I had a similar experience in my 20s. We didn’t really on apps because our friend group included a lot of single people or couples that had been together a few months who might not work out, so you sort of end up dating around your friend group (hence drama). So a lot of it is just your age bracket and how people meet, I think, since that doesn’t at all resemble dating in your thirties. That’s not to say dating hasn’t changed. Things a…	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/03/26 10:55 PM
4	Would you be fine with not getting the "full Girlfriend treatment"? I like your flair	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/03/26 09:24 PM
3	This question is primarily for men, but open to anyone. If you woke up as a straight woman, what kind of partner would you go for? I agree. But it’s still super weird that they’re attacking u/derfelkardan when she obviously is NOT one of those women.	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/03/26 07:53 PM
2	Slutty women are more relationship material than traditional or conservative women As a man dating women, the “lady in streets but a freak in the sheets” is mostly a front. I guess from my own life, last year I was dating a gorgeous woman who was compatible in just about every way other than being a little cagey, especially about sex. It was painful. We dated for about six months and it became increasingly clear to me that the little flirtations and hints at freakiness early on weren’t real. I wanted to please her, and believe she wanted to please me, but by the end I just kne…	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/03/26 04:58 AM
-1	Slutty women are more relationship material than traditional or conservative women I think it’s fair to criticize people for literally objectifying women by comparing them to objects (of low value because they’re used). It’s at least fair to criticize the logic of some dumbass lock analogy	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/03/26 04:43 AM
10	We will never get true gender equality in society. Because whenever equality shows up, a lot of women see it as misogynistic. I strongly disagree. Early feminist thought explicitly attacked what would be thought of today as benevolent sexism. It basically called attention to the infantilization that occurs when women make themselves small, cute, and demure to be doted on by men; how that feeds into a perception of women as incompetent and irresponsible. Early feminism was a lot more about women’s right to an education and an argument that women can be every bit as competent as men, or at least that presumptions about a…	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/03/26 04:40 AM
1	There's no fundamental difference between red pill influencers and porn stars like Bonnie Blue I’m not re-reading your regurgitated propaganda or watching their source videos. I perfectly explained to you why this is harmful and why you shouldn’t be spreading it. And you’re welcome in advance.	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/03/26 04:24 AM
3	Slutty women are more relationship material than traditional or conservative women That’s funny. I think it’s possible for someone to have a lot of sex and remain bad at it, or conversely for someone to have a natural proclivity towards it. I also think sex is partly subjective, and some people just mesh better while others don’t. But in the whole people who have more experience are much better, in my experience. And experience aside, people who don’t like sex are bad at it and people who enjoy sex are better at it. Edit to add (because I always think of something after hittin…	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/03/26 04:11 AM
1	There's no fundamental difference between red pill influencers and porn stars like Bonnie Blue I don’t care if you want me to speak up for you or not, or if you’re going to try to use my gender against me. You are the one moralizing about these women’s careers, claiming that they perpetuate harmful stereotypes (like what, exactly? The very popular belief that women are obsessed with sex and groom men?). You claimed that goth and alt girl pornstars harm goth and alt girls by… what, exactly? Looking like them? Fetishizing their aesthetic? How does that harm them. And even if it did harm the…	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/03/26 04:08 AM
1	There's no fundamental difference between red pill influencers and porn stars like Bonnie Blue I’m not throwing empty claims. I’m explaining how sex negative rhetoric impacts sex workers, LGBTQ+, and women more broadly. You obviously don’t care, which is your right. But if you’re going to sit here and say “pornographers harm women by being associated with them,” I am going to point out all the ways you are harming people by peddling sex negative rhetoric.	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/03/26 03:53 AM
1	There's no fundamental difference between red pill influencers and porn stars like Bonnie Blue It’s like saying I support “LGB but not the T.”	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/03/26 03:48 AM
1	There's no fundamental difference between red pill influencers and porn stars like Bonnie Blue Anti sex work is sex negative, obviously. It’s just in a more targeted and hateful way.	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/03/26 03:40 AM
0	There's no fundamental difference between red pill influencers and porn stars like Bonnie Blue I’m explaining exactly how and why your arguments are sex negative, regardless of how you call it. If you want to keep peddling sex negative bullshit like “Bonnie Blue groomed 18 year old boys” (sometimes referred to as “men) go ahead. But stop posturing as if that is not what you are doing.	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/03/26 03:14 AM
0	Slutty women are more relationship material than traditional or conservative women I think the first talking point is incorrect, for the reasons you stated above. Being good at anything requires practice. For the second one, there’s going to be an obvious correlation between how much a person enjoys sex and how good they are at it. Inverting that correlation feels totally made up. It’d be like saying “just because someone never watches or plays sports doesn’t mean they aren’t athletic.” Yeah, it kind of does. Even if they have some natural talent they are actively avoiding dev…	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/03/26 03:06 AM
3	Are men lonelier? Ah sorry, I misinterpreted that part. I agree that there are absolutely women who enjoy sex basically the way men do, and that by and large women aren’t as sex averse as they’re often framed to be.	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/03/26 03:01 AM
-1	There's no fundamental difference between red pill influencers and porn stars like Bonnie Blue Every argument you’ve made is against sex workers. Your framing men’s expectations as their fault because you disagree with the porn they choose to make. Your weaponizing their vulnerability as the justification for bashing them, implying that criticizing Blue and Phillips’s sexual choices somehow protects lower level sex workers, when in actuality all it does is embolden more people to feel comfortable dog piling on sex workers for making “bad choices.” You’re implying that the aesthetics of se…	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/03/26 02:57 AM
0	There's no fundamental difference between red pill influencers and porn stars like Bonnie Blue What sex negative liberals, conservatives, and angry people online have to say about sex work should be everyone’s concern, because the arguments used against sex workers are the same arguments used against queer and trans people. There isn’t an ethical justification for policing someone else’s consent, and down the line that not only impacts the LGBTQ+ community, but it impacts women, because a society that tolerates policing people’s sexuality opens the door for policing women’s bodily autonom…	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/03/26 02:30 AM
1	Are men lonelier? Even in swingers clubs, straight guys are certainly less welcome than bi or straight women, and there is some sex negativity to straight men in bashing “unicorn hunters” in the ENM community more broadly and literally framing seeking a female third as predatory and constructing an argument that it is automatically unethical, even though there’s no other equivalent argument for any other ENM pairing.	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/03/26 02:24 AM
2	Slutty women are more relationship material than traditional or conservative women Looks like new sex negativity talking points dropped. Lately I’ve seen “men who have a lot of sex are bad at it” and “just because a person (almost) never has sex doesn’t mean they don’t like it or are bad at it.” This is just cope for sex negative types to get ahead of people starting to dislike cringey prudishness.	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/03/26 02:15 AM
1	There's no fundamental difference between red pill influencers and porn stars like Bonnie Blue I disagree. They move the Overton window on sex work, which excites a lot of anger from the anti-sex crowd, but benefits women overall by normalizing regular sex and women’s ability to make their own sexual decisions free from judgment. Sex negative arguments that women should self police their sexuality for the benefit of all women are basically mirroring religious arguments that girls need to not work the boys up too much, and that it is incumbent upon women to not excite men sexually or risk …	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/03/26 02:04 AM
–	If you believe most men are unattractive then you should be ok with the current dating market How is wishing away the past ten years of vitriol, hyper sexist political movements, and weaponized dating strategy “obsessing over the past.” It’d be like if Trump cancels the next two election cycles saying, “yeah, maybe we had elections ten years ago, but that’s a thing of the past and will never come back. We didn’t have them three hundred years ago, so why are you pretending democracy is an option.”	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/03/26 10:09 PM
–	If you believe most men are unattractive then you should be ok with the current dating market I also feel this. I think the new season of Live is Blind actually showcased this so well. The one couple was an alpha bro and maga princess who had a fake relationship that ended with vitriolic rejection and complete apathy at the altar. Another couple the guy was clearly head over heels, but the women was a proud misandrist and he left her after she blacked out at a wedding he was the best man at, cursing him and attacking him. I wonder if young people realize it wasn’t always like this, and d…	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/03/26 09:37 PM
4	Sexually successful men aren't assholes, they just stopped simping You took issue with “sexually successful men aren’t assholes, they just stopped simping” and then threw in a bunch of loaded language implying it’s normal for them to lie about being promiscuous. It’s not the 1800s. I fully expect my partners to be sleeping with other people until we have a conversation about it. That doesn’t make me an asshole, especially when they do the exact same thing. Gendering it is sexist bullshit, and the sex negativity underlying all your takes is threadbare (especiall…	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/03/26 02:03 PM
1	Sexually successful men aren't assholes, they just stopped simping Here here.	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/03/26 01:58 PM
3	Sexually successful men aren't assholes, they just stopped simping I’m sex positive, which makes these conversations tricky because I’m as often arguing down feminists as much as I am misogynists, and because feminists have become increasingly sex negative while red pillers have become increasingly sexist. No doubt, the idea that a sexually successful man is more valuable is toxic, partly because it’s tied to the idea that a sexually promiscuous woman loses value. But the main impetus for sex negativity is the inverse idea: that sexual reliance on the opposite …	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/03/26 12:27 PM
3	Sexually successful men aren't assholes, they just stopped simping Your attempt to villainize promiscuous men clearly comes from a belief that it is a moral failing though. Also, it makes statistical sense that people who sleep with more people mostly sleep with people who sleep with more people. In what way is a gross generalization? Theres nothing offensive about that. There is something offensive about the idea that you put out, which is that they’re assholes because they deceive women. By implying that the only way men could sleep with many women is by dece…	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/03/26 12:13 PM
3	Sexually successful men aren't assholes, they just stopped simping People who sleep around a lot are typically sleeping with people who sleep around a lot. I resent this narrative that a man who sleeps around must be deceiving the women he sleeps with. Yes, I had a roster of women I’d be talking to at any given time. Guess what, I was still probably going on fewer dates and talking to fewer people than the women I was hooking up with. They were doing the same thing. And we both knew it and neither of us felt entitled to interrogate the other’s sex life or press…	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/03/26 11:54 AM
1	Why do women always attack their man in public? I don’t think it’s all that uncommon, almost every couple that enters therapy has a dynamic like this, with one partner attacking and the other withdrawing. But I don’t think it’s as gendered as OP’s post suggests. It’s more a pattern that couples fall into when one partner is more assertive, direct, and superior and the other feels less confident, less confrontational, and inferior. One attacks, and the other shuts down, which makes the attacker feel neglected and resentful.	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/03/26 09:34 PM
1	Why do women always attack their man in public? I know two couples like this, but agree it’s toxic and a sign of abuse.	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/03/26 09:09 PM
5	Dark romance men and dating. For sure. Experienced subs are also more communicative. I don’t think I’ve ever had a sub who was into dirty talk who didn’t have certain words that icked them. I.e. it’s never a blanket “I like every version of this.”	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/03/26 07:14 PM
8	Dark romance men and dating. I’d still say on average kinksters are better at discussing consent and boundaries. In vanilla dating, there’s more of an expectation of mind reading (which can be dangerous).	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/03/26 06:39 PM
–	DISCUSSION🗨️ ABOUT MAIN PPD POSTS📮, LOOKS👀, AND N-COUNT🔢 ARE RESTRICTED🚫 FROM THE DAILY🌞 MEGATHREAD🧵 Good luck. I haven’t fucked up my back totally but often feel a twinge after working out. Back pain scares the shit out of me	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/03/26 04:57 PM
–	Do woman care how many Partners a Men had before? Good take	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/03/26 10:07 PM
–	Do woman care how many Partners a Men had before? That’s not cool. I’ve slept with plenty of women, but that doesn’t make me a bad person. I just enjoy sex and sought partners who felt the same and who were capable of engaging casually. It’s unfair to make a bunch of assumptions about a person based on their sexual history.	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/03/26 09:46 PM
–	Do woman care how many Partners a Men had before? Thank you for being sane	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/03/26 09:18 PM
–	Men who were abused as children are treated like broken goods I’m sorry that happened to you. I feel like this post is a little too general. But one expression of what you’re talking about is toxic masculinity, basically telling guys that if they have emotions or aren’t coping well, that it’s because they haven’t perfected the art of dissociating. You don’t know what someone’s background is. Telling someone who was raised to suffer in silence that, actually, because they are a man suffering in silence is exactly how they should deal with their problems as …	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/03/26 12:20 AM
1	Has manosphere content gotten you laid? This content was anonymized and mass deleted with Redact	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/03/26 10:55 PM
9	Has manosphere content gotten you laid? This content was anonymized and mass deleted with Redact	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/03/26 04:59 AM
2	Has manosphere content gotten you laid? This content was anonymized and mass deleted with Redact	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/03/26 04:43 AM
3	Has manosphere content gotten you laid? This content was anonymized and mass deleted with Redact	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/03/26 04:39 AM
1	Have you ever been in love? I’ve been in love (and might be now). Originally I feel in love before online dating, and always sort of wondered about it until I was single again in my mid thirties. A simple breakdown: red pill believes women trade sex for male status and provision. Pink pill believes the same but in a ma hating way. Black pill is people who believe in this market economics of dating, but are who are romantically homeless and unfit for love. The main thing you should know about the dating market of today vers…	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/03/26 02:50 AM
2	Most women want socially liberal men who are capable of engaging in “benevolent misogyny “. “Violent men are good for society but sexual women are bad” is an ass backwards take. You’re basically saying male violence should be encouraged but women should be sexually disempowered.	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/03/26 12:55 PM
15	Men spend a lot of time trying to humble women, and then claim women are overvalued You are using blanket statements for most of your post, so I’m confused why you suddenly care that a commenter isn’t using them. You also clearly state most me, and their qualified response is that the vast majority of men aren’t doing that. It’s as if you’re saying “because some men do this, that means most men do this which might as well be all men.” How do you respond to the commenter’s point that 90% of men gas women up? Does that matter when talking about the other 10% of men dragging them …	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/03/26 11:36 AM
20	Most women want socially liberal men who are capable of engaging in “benevolent misogyny “. I think that’s an interesting comparison. But there’s a general social unsavoryness in the way people discuss kink, which you don’t really get with sports and games. If more people understood it the way you just explained the analogy, they would actually have a better conception of what kink is and why people are into it. It’s fun and exciting	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/03/26 12:37 AM
5	Q4W: Who should be taught how to treat their partners? And why? I agree with this. It’s surprising to me to see so many women question the idea of being taught how to treat men, when I was taught my whole life to treat women with respect, to be strong for them, to show them grace when they’re upset. I don’t think it’s at all alien to men to be taught to treat women well. But I agree that it should be less chivalrous and gendered, and more about being kind and empathetic to your partner. Partner relationships are different from regular relationships. They req…	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/03/26 12:34 AM
1	Most women want socially liberal men who are capable of engaging in “benevolent misogyny “. Yep. And it’s worth noting that the problem is that these often reinforce negative stereotypes. People who are accepting of the bigoted logic underlying the positive stereotypes also promote the negative ones.	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/03/26 08:21 PM
10	Most women want socially liberal men who are capable of engaging in “benevolent misogyny “. Benevolent sexism is a well understood and researched social psychology construct. Benevolent sexism correlates strongly with hostile sexism.	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/03/26 01:08 PM
3	Homophobia is just gynocentrism on steriods. They raise a good point about ingrained bigotry being considered common knowledge, and you failed to refute it.	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/03/26 11:38 PM
2	What female-primary behaviors do you actually think are unjustifiable? I really appreciate this. I get that as men were supposed to take it in stride but a woman calling you an “ugly f*ggot” for talking to her at a dance club isn’t doing so because she’s afraid of being misunderstood. And it really is kinda fucked up when you see women defending rude rejections as “probably because of a bad experience,” “probably didn’t feel safe” or other assumptions that minimize the verbal smack you feel in those situations.	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/03/26 11:35 PM
–	What do women think of this other woman's opinion? I’m not exceptional. Most men can go through life without attacking women’s (as a group) looks and down punching.	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/03/26 11:14 PM
–	What do women think of this other woman's opinion? I don’t. I find it disgusting. And I don’t need to shit on women (especially ugly women) to find a decent one.	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/03/26 11:11 PM
–	What do women think of this other woman's opinion? The women who do agree with her (I.e. the bottom text of this thread) do so because they believe that they exert some control over the dating market. I’ve noticed this weird trend, which feels like an extension of Marxist feminism, where the collectivist messaging suggests women should be unfair to men (as a group) as a means of lowering the bar for what men will accept while raising the bar for what women accept. Her aim isn’t to directly get a hot guy to go for her, it’s to convince other wome…	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/03/26 11:09 PM
1	If women need men to survive, all heterosexual sex is unethical But again, the problem with the premise isn’t that it claims a hypothetical scenario where women can t survive without men (which you disagree with), it’s that it frames consent as non-binary, with some people’s consent being less valid, mature, and reasoned than others. It infantilizes women (or if you’re saying that gender is arbitrary, it infantalizes all people) by recasting consent as a consequence of societal forces and biologies, rather than respecting their bodily autonomy. It frames con…	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/03/26 08:34 PM
1	If women need men to survive, all heterosexual sex is unethical I guess I didn’t realize that some people’s consent could be weak and less valid than my consent.	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/03/26 08:03 PM
1	If women need men to survive, all heterosexual sex is unethical Im asking because you’re proposing that if a woman relies on a man, that invalidates her consent. This infantilizes women, either by implying that they cannot consent the same way that men can because they are women (gender essentialism), or it infantilizes all humans by implying that no one can consent to anything because any decision is made with consideration to outside societal pressures and biological imperatives (and that these considerations somehow override what people believe to be thei…	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/03/26 05:18 PM
1	If women need men to survive, all heterosexual sex is unethical I’m confused. Are they dependent on men the way children on their parents because they aren’t as capable as men? What specific things can men do that women cannot? Or is it that, because of their gender, they are physically, mentally, and emotionally less fit on some essential level? Is their gender the principal concern, or should I be pressing charges against my breadwinnibg ex because she was a exercising coercive control when we had sex (which my stupid boy brain thought was consensual, but …	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/03/26 04:06 PM
3	If women need men to survive, all heterosexual sex is unethical So your argument is that they are like children in the sense that they lack the ability to consent because they are fundamentally less autonomous than adults (or adult men anyway)?	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/03/26 03:09 PM
1	There is no blue pill ideology It’s been a while since I wrote it out, but here’s my take on your position (which I agree with): Red pill is an ideology crafted around a “traditional” understanding of men and women. More than just a lay understanding of male and female gender roles, it’s the cultural, scientific, academic, and institutional ideas that reinforce gender roles as normative and good. These are ideas like… Worth defined by sexual prowess/discretion: A woman’s value is determined by the worst man she’s willing to s…	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/03/26 08:53 PM
2	Will women sexually harassing and raping men be pretty common in the future to the point to be more common than men comitting sexual crimes against women? Sounds good to me	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/03/26 06:59 PM
2	Will women sexually harassing and raping men be pretty common in the future to the point to be more common than men comitting sexual crimes against women? Aw, I really appreciate that. I’ve felt the same way about your comments. I feel like there’s a few of us here who would probably make good friends	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/03/26 06:19 PM
1	Why do most guys say their ideal woman is a "good girl" (sweet, loyal, low body count, not super party-oriented)? Is it genuine or just what sounds good? My ideal “good girl” is sweet, loyal, high sex drive, super party oriented. A fun loving sexual woman sounds great to me.	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/03/26 11:20 PM
10	Is The "Women And Children" Narrative Misandrist? Additional context for the titanic is that there had been a similar shipwreck not long before where almost all of the survivors were men (at the expense of women and children). When they returned, the survivors (and by extension the ruling class they represented) were raked through the mud for the craven act of self preservation. This was very much in the cultural zeitgeist at the time of the titanic shipwreck, and most certainly influenced the crew and passengers. (Note: I’m not a historian, so…	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/03/26 10:58 PM
4	Why is it always semantics and not the argument itself? I for sure have. There was a post a few weeks ago that basically asked “women, would you rather have a nice guy with these qualities. Or a materialistic asshole with these qualities?” The qualities listed for the nice guy included “shy/introverted.” Some people in the comments called that part out (including me) but there were plenty of defenders of shyness as a virtue. Also, shyness is coded as “nice” in a lot of media and extroversion is coded as “asshole.”	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/03/26 02:22 PM
6	Why is it always semantics and not the argument itself? The reason r/niceguys exists as a sub is because a lot of guys classify themselves as nice. And it absolutely is a thing that the men in this subreddit often frame being introverted as “nice” and being extroverted as “cocky,” “arrogant” an “asshole.” This especially holds true when talking about unapologetically sexual men.	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/03/26 02:01 PM
–	Why are women often more religious than men? Agreed. Also, from my perspective as a 100% atheist guy, when men become religious it is typically for *reasons.” E.g. to get sober/stay out of jail, they think it’s good for their family, they like the community religion brings.	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/03/26 01:53 PM
3	Will women sexually harassing and raping men be pretty common in the future to the point to be more common than men comitting sexual crimes against women? No. There’s a multitude of factors that play into the one-sidedness of sexual violence. Men are physically more imposing than women and have higher sex drives (on average). Men are socialized to view sex with women as a proof of their virility, social status, and their masculinity itself, whereas women are socialized to view sex the opposite way, negatively. Whether men are more precarious by nature or nurture is relevant to your question, because if it were entirely socialization, then it might…	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/03/26 12:46 AM
7	"Men desire women, women desire men's desire". Thoughts? Yup. I find this whole thread of guys and girls claiming the other’s desire isn’t valid immature. Talk to a woman in the honeymoon stage of a relationship: she desires him. Talk to a man who just got back from a gorgeous first date he clicked with: He desires her. There’s something so sexist. It’s like these people can’t help projecting some ulterior motive, or can’t help believing that the opposite sex’s desire is genuine, so they have to recast desire as “validation” or something icky and offe…	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/03/26 01:00 PM
–	Women as a whole are more attractive than men as a whole. “Attractive” isn’t an inherent, objective quality a person. It’s a social construct that a person projects into someone else, so it’s subjective. Women may be more attractive than men to you, but that doesn’t make them more attractive to a straight woman.	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/03/26 12:11 AM
8	Dating isn’t about what you deserve. It’s about what you’re attracted to. In fairness, a lot of the discourse around leagues treat them as a fixed science instead of a guideline used to explain certain phenomena way more often than it’s used in the sense of “who is desired mixed with the qualities one seeks.”	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/03/26 02:33 PM
1	About the chore gap, could gendered differences play into it? And what is the endgame, anyway? Did you misread my comment? I wasn’t taking about sex. I was talking about how you engage your partner re: chores. You said you’d never do chores for your girlfriend or roommate, so I asked if they’d describe you as enjoyable to live with.	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/03/26 01:08 PM
-1	About the chore gap, could gendered differences play into it? And what is the endgame, anyway? Because the relative toxicity of how you engage your living mate is highly relevant to the conversation. You can adopt a parental role and treat your roommate or partner like a child, but that just ruins the relationship and living situation. Alternatively you can just hold yourself to a higher cleanliness standard than you hold others to. Edit: assuming you live and respect your partner, why would it NOT matter if they enjoy living with you?	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/03/26 12:54 PM
-1	About the chore gap, could gendered differences play into it? And what is the endgame, anyway? I don’t doubt that. Would your partners and roommates describe you as “easy/fun/nice to live with?”	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/03/26 12:43 PM
5	About the chore gap, could gendered differences play into it? And what is the endgame, anyway? The key to living with roommates is just to hold your cleaner standard to a higher level than you hold you roommate. Same goes for partners. If I want something cleaned, I clean it. I don’t frame it as a moral failing of my roommate or partner.	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/03/26 12:35 PM
9	Lack of maturity is women's biggest problem in relationships Someone recently pointed out to me that when women internalize expectations of femininity it’s called “internalized misogyny,” and that this is essentially the same thing that we talk about with “toxic masculinity,” and a useful term for understanding it. That said, not all social expectations of femininity/masculinity lead to toxicity. I think a lot of it depends on what “protect” is meant to convey and how it’s interpreted. I think it’s normal for a woman to expect a man to use his advantages …	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/03/26 02:33 PM
2	Never settle” has slowly morphed into “never compromise Maybe. But at this point I do want the women who hate men to stop dating. I’m trying to stick to women who don’t have such a bone to pick with men.	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/03/26 01:04 AM
4	Never settle” has slowly morphed into “never compromise Meant to add, I agree nothing is set in stone. Like for me with my work, I’m no capitalist stooge but I came around to sticking it out in a career I really like. Also, what are your thoughts on ways to identify and mitigate the harm caused by whatever is responsible for the uptick in PCOS, Endometriosis, etc (or is this the kind of thing where we already know how to do something, but it’s more profitable to do nothing)?	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/03/26 01:02 AM
2	Never settle” has slowly morphed into “never compromise I’d buy that. I also think there’s a veritable case that anti-depressants were overprescribed to an entire generation, but one of the side effects for most SSRI’s is that they inhibit sexual desire (and regular desire). And that’s compounded by other things like social media amplifying sexist messaging for engagement, a feedback loop of fascism making people more tribalistically sexist, and an increasingly bleak future that makes everyone feel less sexually adventurous.	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/03/26 12:58 AM
2	Why do women continue to pursue men after bad experiences? And why are they attracted to them? I think romantic/sexual desire does drive most decision making subconsciously. I don’t see that as being at odds with bluepill. I think u/LaFrescatrumpeta makes a really good point. But aside from that I also think sexual attraction does override a lot of experiences. I also think it’s normal to go through some heartache and not totally write the other gender or romance itself off. Like, that’s a normal part of being a human and in most cases it’s healthier than abstaining from relationships for…	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/03/26 12:40 AM
2	Never settle” has slowly morphed into “never compromise I actually think the wishful thinking is the other way. I remember when I was younger being real caught up in anti-work memes. I bought into it and left some jobs over some pretty small slights that felt big at the time. I’m pretty highly qualified in a few fields but I was trigger happy to stick it to corporations. I remember reading a thread (I think during the great resignation) where someone commented that it’s pretty misguided to recommend to all these young people to fall in the sword, and…	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/03/26 12:22 AM
1	If hypergamy is real why do you think that listening to men is useful? I feel like the person you’re responding to has given good reasons that it makes sense for men to listen to other men’s advice over women’s dating advice. I don’t listen to every red pill take. In fact, I battle red pill takes (and especially black pill takes) a fair amount. But I know that my advice about how to date would be more beneficial to most men than most women’s advice would be because I pick up a fair amount of women. Also, because I am a man dating women, I understand what red pill i…	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/03/26 12:13 AM
1	Never settle” has slowly morphed into “never compromise I disbelieve it because I’ve known women who talk a big game about not needing men, but who are super fucked up and lonely deep down. I understand that it’s a front they’re putting on in public and that it can be convincing, but missing out on romantic connection in life is pathetic, and I think women face more pressure to pretend to be okay with it.	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/03/26 11:44 PM
1	Baffled with women who go on dates with men that aren't their type Yes, though I’d caveat that this doesn’t happen with people I find totally unattractive. It’s more like if they meet a basic attractiveness threshold, and our personalities click well, then I’ll find them even more attractive than even gorgeous women.	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/03/26 11:21 PM
-1	Never settle” has slowly morphed into “never compromise It’s pretty obvious from men’s perspective that this is exactly what it is lol. We’ll see where those women are at when they’re your age.	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/03/26 11:13 PM
0	Never settle” has slowly morphed into “never compromise I think it’s half this (e.g. instagirly grifters preaching misandry, but obviously swooning for their dudes IRL) and half women who’ve bought into heterofatalism so hard that romance threatens their worldview.	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/03/26 10:12 PM
8	Baffled with women who go on dates with men that aren't their type This happens to me all the time. I find someone reasonably attractive, but we go on a date and I just am nothing their personality at all. It doesn’t even mean I think they’re a bad person or anything. Just not for me.	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/03/26 03:59 PM
1	What do you value? Option 3 easily.	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/03/26 01:18 AM
3	What is the actual material incentive to truly treat women as equal? It’s sometimes frustrating that people don’t get this most basic concept: just because a group trends one way or another doesn’t mean that your assumptions about an individual in that group are correct or even valid (e.g. the biking example). I’d add that, specifically as it regards dating and romance, don’t you want to feel connected to your partner as a human? Don’t you want to understand them as like a soul inhabiting a corporeal frame, rather than just as a “man” or a “woman?” Part of that i…	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/02/26 03:27 PM
1	If attractive men use women as disposable with all that entails simply because they have options, then logically any man who will have options will behave like that, and others will just quietly want to, what makes a man a desirable to have in woman's life? Sorry, I was looking for the term “memetic desire.”	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/02/26 02:34 PM
1	If attractive men use women as disposable with all that entails simply because they have options, then logically any man who will have options will behave like that, and others will just quietly want to, what makes a man a desirable to have in woman's life? I may be blanking in the term, but it’s the one they use for the guy in White Lotus season 2.	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/02/26 02:31 PM
9	If attractive men use women as disposable with all that entails simply because they have options, then logically any man who will have options will behave like that, and others will just quietly want to, what makes a man a desirable to have in woman's life? I disagree with the narrative that any man with options is going to treat women poorly. If anything, knowing how to treat women well makes you more attractive (the idea that women prefer to be mistreated is the most misguided, inaccurate tenet of redpill ideology, IMO). Any person with options will have an idea what their league is and probably put more effort into winning the affection of people who seem like “catches” to them, but I don’t think that’s gendered at all really. I do think women t…	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/02/26 11:26 AM
1	are there women out there that just want sex That’s been my experience. Different people want different things out of relationships. Different people move the relationship at different paces. I think one thing people who don’t date a lot miss is that to people who do date a lot, there’s nothing odd or off putting about fucking on the first or second date, dating for a few months before saying “I love you,” or playing things by ear until you’re both ready to commit.	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/02/26 03:06 AM
5	Pro-male politicians don't need to improve men's lives to win. Degrading women's existence for male entertainment will be their strategy. Like banning no fault divorce.	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/02/26 12:13 AM
1	What is your strongest Pro Blue Pill Argument? Of course they don’t exclusively project personality traits through purchases. They also do it through words and behaviors, obviously. The point is that personality expression is part of everything we do, and the reason we imbue so may of our decisions with personal expression is because we hope to attract people who align with those traits (and we find those traits attractive in others).	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/02/26 04:39 PM
0	Do men need variety? There’s also the issue of jealousy, insecurity, and control. If a man told a women to never use a sex toy again, read smut, or watch romance stories, there are reasons beyond a “failure of loyalty” for her to resent that request. Asking someone not to look at porn is the same.	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/02/26 01:38 PM
2	Men shouldn’t expect women to be ok with them cheating because it’s “human biology”. Both genders are promiscuous by nature. I understand that it’s hard to discount the craziest voices, and I struggle with that too. It frustrates me when someone automatically dismisses an entrenched sexist woman’s take as “online behavior,” because I know these views carry over into the real world and I’ve had to deal with them in the real world. But I’ll try to keep in mind that most women wouldn’t agree with the statement “men think it’s okay to lie and manipulate to get sex” and that it’s not a feminist take, if you’ll try to keep …	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/02/26 01:28 PM
16	Men shouldn’t expect women to be ok with them cheating because it’s “human biology”. Both genders are promiscuous by nature. This is a false flag. I don’t know any men who justify cheating. The cheaters I have known didn’t pretend it was allowed. Whoever is telling you that men think they’re allowed to cheat is manipulating you into thinking men as a group hold a position that almost no one holds.	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/02/26 01:22 AM
4	What is your strongest Pro Blue Pill Argument? In dating, red pill leans into the low hanging fruit of evolutionary psychology while ignoring more advanced models that broaden our understanding of human mating behavior. Namely, people use purchasing decisions and spend most of their lives trying to display their personality traits through shoes, tattoos, college degrees, cars, everything. The reason that we do this is to attract like minded people (as in people who literally have heritable personality traits that align well with ours). So th…	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/02/26 01:20 AM
1	Do men need variety? I honestly do feel like I need variety. But I don’t think I’m normal. I do ENM, and couple up with women who are sexually explorative. I’m not trying to trick anyone into thinking that I’m attracted to them and them alone, and I don’t expected them to be only attracted to me. I’d also note there are plenty of hotwives who seem to feel the same, so I don’t think it’s as gendered as people make it out to be. It’s more about how open you are, how wired you are for monogamy, and how deeply you’ve in…	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/02/26 11:32 PM
3	How should women “take accountability”? I think it applies to both. So much of the animosity towards the opposite gender is literally just cope because someone didn’t like them, but then it gets intellectualized, group-thinked, and repeated until it becomes like an ideological tenet.	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/02/26 10:03 PM
3	Who would be better at Dating, a good or Bad person? It still fucks up the thought experiment by introducing an amoral variable. If you throw a monkey wrench like “shy” in for the good guy you should throw a monkey wrench like “criminal record” in for the bad guy. “Shy” and “criminal record,” will both severely impact dating prospects.	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/02/26 05:50 AM
–	How to Tell If You Have a Fragile Masculinity - A Guide for Glass Men Do you think maybe Karens can be understood this way? Maybe they associate their femininity with courteous behaviors extended towards them, so discourteous or neutral behaviors read as an attack on their femininity. They appeal to a more dominant figure (I.e. a manager) to dominate the subordinate by extending courtesy to Karen, vindicating her threatened femininity.	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/02/26 11:00 PM
3	Horny men pretend to care about romance so they can justify being selfish. “It’s racist to use negative statistics about black people to justify stereotypes against black people. It’s sexist to use negative statistics about one gender to justify negative beliefs about that gender.” Do you agree with the two sentences above? If you can’t respond DIRECTLY I‘ll take that as a concession that you don’t have a response, because to respond would be to admit your prejudice. Which is obviously why you’re avoiding this point.	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/02/26 05:53 PM
2	Horny men pretend to care about romance so they can justify being selfish. “It’s racist to use negative statistics about black people to justify stereotypes against black people. It’s sexist to use negative statistics about one gender to justify negative beliefs about that gender.” Do you agree with the two sentences above? If you can’t respond DIRECTLY I‘ll take that as a concession that you don’t have a response, because to respond would be to admit your prejudice. Which is obviously why you’re avoiding this point.	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/02/26 05:42 PM
3	Horny men pretend to care about romance so they can justify being selfish. I’ll stop when you respond to this: “It’s racist to use negative statistics about black people to justify stereotypes against black people. It’s sexist to use negative statistics about one gender to justify negative beliefs about that gender.” Do you agree with the two sentences above?	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/02/26 05:36 PM
2	What are your values? Do other people share them? I agree. The woman I’ve been seeing is considerate, and that’s been such a green flag. It matters to me that she listens, and is nice to strangers, and cares about being nice to me too. My aim is always to make her happy, but it’s nice to have someone who thinks about me too.	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/02/26 05:32 PM
2	Horny men pretend to care about romance so they can justify being selfish. I like that you don’t even deny being prejudiced, you just claim it isn’t relevant. Why should everyone else have to ignore your bigotry? Why shouldn’t your bigotry be taken into account? And why do you feel anyone should care about your opinion on gender politics if you yourself are bigotted?	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/02/26 05:16 PM
2	Horny men pretend to care about romance so they can justify being selfish. I think you’re copping out because you know I’m right, but in case I’m mistaken riddle me this. It’s racist to use negative statistics about black people to justify stereotypes against black people. It’s sexist to use negative statistics about one gender to justify negative beliefs about that gender. So answer me directly, do you agree with the two sentences above?	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/02/26 04:47 PM
2	Women's Preferences Are Fine. Fetishes Disguised as Standards Are Not. For me personally, I think of kinks as like the “genre” of deviancies (e.g. breath play, cuckoldry, bondage) and then fetishes as specific traits or acts (e.g. I’ve heard “dark skin light hair or vice versa,” “being sewn together,” “licking literally every part of me”). People can use the terms however they want. I do get what you’re saying about people misusing them, but I think my view of genre/specificity is more useful for talking about people’s weird wants.	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/02/26 04:43 PM
4	Horny men pretend to care about romance so they can justify being selfish. That is exactly how racists argue. The racist part is using information about one person or group to make claims about the rest of the group. You understand that that IS what racism is, right?	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/02/26 04:33 PM
1	Horny men pretend to care about romance so they can justify being selfish. Okay. Are you racist, or inconsistent in your bigotry?	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/02/26 04:27 PM
6	Women's Preferences Are Fine. Fetishes Disguised as Standards Are Not. Just want to note that having a fetish isn’t a clinical disorder. I’ve heard the term “fetish” defined the way you’re defining it, like a sexual act or feature that is required to get someone off. I’m honestly not really a fan of that definition, since I think that you can be into feet but still have vanilla sex with someone. Does the fetish not count then? I think a looser definition of fetish is better, but agree that OP’s definition is too close to “preferences.” The semantics are kind of bes…	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/02/26 04:26 PM
3	Horny men pretend to care about romance so they can justify being selfish. Is your argument that women have never committed acts of sexual violence? Or that it’s acceptable to stereotype based on outliers?	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/02/26 04:06 PM
5	Horny men pretend to care about romance so they can justify being selfish. I wish more people recognized the connection between talking about male sexuality as if it’s inherently impure, projecting purity myths onto women, and then subjugating women for their own sexual protection from men. There’s that meme of a guy asking who would protect women without men, and her clapping back “protect us from whom?” And while I agree that it’s stupid to frame women as needing to center men Backus’s of the protection men can offer, I think a lot of people miss the point that this …	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/02/26 04:00 PM
6	Horny men pretend to care about romance so they can justify being selfish. I disagree. I think it’s an extremely small subset of men, and you just use it as a talking point to justify your hatred. It’s “think of the children” except the children are adult women.	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/02/26 03:54 PM
4	Horny men pretend to care about romance so they can justify being selfish. “Trust me bro,” - every sexist ever. If you don’t think this is a sexist claim, explain to me how regurgitating a sex-based statement that reduces a gender to its stereotypes doesn’t count as sexism.	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/02/26 03:50 PM
–	Horny men pretend to care about romance so they can justify being selfish. I think that you pivot to very conversation to sexual violence because you actively want to cast male sexuality as inherently predatory and bad because you are a sexist, so I’m not going to engage on that point any further.	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/02/26 03:49 PM
2	Horny men pretend to care about romance so they can justify being selfish. Oh, no examples? We’re just supposed to believe sexist stereotypes? Sorry, but no. I don’t accept sexist stereotypes against women and I don’t accept them against men either. Stop making a sexist claim if you aren’t willing to support it.	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/02/26 03:48 PM
5	Horny men pretend to care about romance so they can justify being selfish. I made it very clear that I don’t think women hate men. I think YOU, Lilith of Babylon alone, hate men.	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/02/26 03:46 PM
–	Horny men pretend to care about romance so they can justify being selfish. I said sex is a normal and healthy part of being a human. You pretended that I said lying and manipulating are a normal and healthy part of being a human. See, you mixed up “sex” and “lying/manipulating” again, because there’s something wrong with your brain that equates sex and malfeasance.	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/02/26 03:45 PM
–	Horny men pretend to care about romance so they can justify being selfish. This is like arguing with a twelve year old. If you’re going to keep saying I hold your position I don’t see the point in taking to you. Get help, it isn’t normal	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/02/26 03:43 PM
–	Horny men pretend to care about romance so they can justify being selfish. I think women who call all men liars and manipulators for wanting sex hate men because they do. If a man lies and manipulates to get sex, the immoral part is the dishonesty, not the sex itself. That’s where I believe you have a problem, you can’t imagine that a man has sex without lying and manipulating, because you’re a misandrist so you can’t empathize with men.	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/02/26 03:42 PM
7	Horny men pretend to care about romance so they can justify being selfish. What lies were you specifically told the last time a man tricked you into sex? Like what specifically was the lie?	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/02/26 03:41 PM
–	Horny men pretend to care about romance so they can justify being selfish. Bullshit. You want to live in a society that equates male sexuality to manipulation. Because you need women to be seen as de facto victims of men in every scenario. You want to live in a sexist society that demonizes sex. If you actually want a sexually safer world for women, you can start by learning more about human sexuality and not fear mongering about sex all the time.	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/02/26 03:40 PM
21	Horny men pretend to care about romance so they can justify being selfish. It’s been said by sexists for generations, because it’s a patriarchal attitude that infantilizes women by framing them as lacking autonomy in their own sexual decisions, thereby justifying taking their rights away and organizing society around protecting their sexual purity and reducing their value to that of their worth as sexual objects for men.	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/02/26 03:35 PM
–	Horny men pretend to care about romance so they can justify being selfish. You are literally just taking your beliefs and projecting them onto me. Your whole post is written from an extremely sex negative assumption that a man wanting to have sex with a woman makes him a lying, manipulative prick. I disagree whole heartedly with that premise. I think it’s fine for a man to want to fuck a woman.	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/02/26 03:33 PM
–	Horny men pretend to care about romance so they can justify being selfish. I don’t think women hate men. I think you hate men because you demonize them for wanting sex and believe that by wanting sex they nullify any acceptable reason (in your mind) to want relationships. Again, I think you should talk to a therapist about why you take it for granted that wanting sex means NOT wanting love. There are things that you could deconstruct there that would help you improve your relationships with men	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/02/26 03:31 PM
–	Horny men pretend to care about romance so they can justify being selfish. YOU think being selfish and manipulative is part of men wanting sex. That is the premise of your post, which I am arguing against.	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/02/26 03:24 PM
8	Horny men pretend to care about romance so they can justify being selfish. Which men? All men?	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/02/26 03:24 PM
9	Horny men pretend to care about romance so they can justify being selfish. You clearly have no problem lying if you’re going to come in here and act like there are no honest men, or like women don’t also understand sexual dynamics and the potential for sexual encounters when they go on dates. Or are women all naive little children who couldn’t possibly want or understand that the men they go on dates with want sex whereas women wholesomely just want asexual romantic favors?	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/02/26 03:23 PM
4	Horny men pretend to care about romance so they can justify being selfish. Which men? All men? I’m very upfront with the women I sleep with. And reducing people to sexist stereotypes is sexist. Gender essentialism is red pill.	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/02/26 03:21 PM
–	Horny men pretend to care about romance so they can justify being selfish. No. I want a world where people aren’t demonized for wanting or enjoying sex. I want a place old where people are free to express their sexual orientation, sexual identity, and sexual preferences without judgment.	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/02/26 03:20 PM
–	Horny men pretend to care about romance so they can justify being selfish. I see right through you. You spend all your time bashing male sexuality because you WANT to live in a world where men can’t be openly sexual. That way you can complain about sexual men while also complaining about men who aren’t up front about their sexual desires (with posts like the delusional Lilith ones we get daily). And the irony is that promoting this sexist bullshit you rob women of their autonomy, as if they all just get tricked into sex. Because you operate under the assumption that wo…	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/02/26 03:18 PM
10	Horny men pretend to care about romance so they can justify being selfish. You have to be brainwashed to think sex and romance— things that the vast majority of the human population engage in and find healthy, pleasurable, and relationship enhancing— are morally wrong. Sex and love are the best parts of life, and having sex with someone doesn’t automatically imply that you are harming them in any way.	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/02/26 03:00 PM
–	Horny men pretend to care about romance so they can justify being selfish. A radical feminist complaining that “men don’t want to be held accountable?” Sounds like you’re projecting again. You just want a world where male sexuality is demonized so that women can be viewed as de facto victims in every scenario and never held accountable.	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/02/26 02:58 PM
12	Horny men pretend to care about romance so they can justify being selfish. Wanting sex doesn’t make someone an asshole. That’s your problem and it’s why you’ve been banging your manhating drum for a decade. If you could get over that most men (and women, btw) enjoy sex, you might stop being so angry. It’s work you need to do on yourself, and j genuinely think you should talk to a therapist to deconstruct why you have such an ingrained belief that there’s something bad about a person feeling sexual desire. It’s a normal, natural part of being a human and almost anyone s…	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/02/26 02:50 PM
–	Horny men pretend to care about romance so they can justify being selfish. Exactly. She’s just a prude	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/02/26 02:48 PM
–	Horny men pretend to care about romance so they can justify being selfish. I think you’re projecting your cakeist feminism onto men.	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/02/26 02:47 PM
20	Horny men pretend to care about romance so they can justify being selfish. Of course she is. Pretending that men are bad for wanting or enjoying sex is stupid and sexist.	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/02/26 02:46 PM
57	Horny men pretend to care about romance so they can justify being selfish. Every day you post a different version of “men want sex and that is bad.” First of all, there’s nothing wrong with wanting just sex. Secondly, sex does not mutually exclude genuine romantic care. Thirdly, men are humans and want all the things humans want, including romantic connection.	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/02/26 01:34 PM
–	Why are feminists so mean to their male friends To your question about Karens, Karens are a strange phenomenon. I think the word skyrocketed in popularity because the behavior was readily identifiable but we needed a word for it, and it instantly described a certain type of person.	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/02/26 11:37 AM
–	Why are feminists so mean to their male friends I was asked this question yesterday, and I write pages extensively about it, and I got downvoted probably by the woman who asked it because it contradicts her narrative that women are perfect little angels. In short, I’ve known many, but I don’t think women who shit on men are a valid reason to hate women. I like the women in this thread who are humanist feminists because that’s basically what I am. I don’t like girlboss feminists.	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/02/26 11:30 AM
–	Why are feminists so mean to their male friends I think they’re referring specifically to gender war bullshit. Radical feminists are red-pilled in terms of gender politics. They endorse all the same gender essentialist beliefs	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/02/26 06:26 AM
–	Why are feminists so mean to their male friends It’s person to person. Some are already mature and approach gender politics from a belief in equality. Others maybe start out all piss and vinegar but tone it down as they gain life experience. Then you have the ones who develop this myopic boys vs girl worldview. They just turn into Karens	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/02/26 06:22 AM
3	Decentering Women Isn’t Anti-Woman. It’s Actually Feminist and Healthier for Men Too I appreciate you saying this, since it was my immediate concern also. “Decentering” the opposite gender is step one for red pill incels and pink pilled femcels, and you can see that every thread focused on boy/girl solidarity just becomes a hate sub.	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/02/26 04:18 PM
1	Out of your partners who wouldn’t be able to attract you on a dating app, but did attract you in real life: what did they do? But also in fairness you did include most of that context. You said you hung out and practiced together all the time, you clearly liked his personality, and you ended up getting together. I think to take all those context clues and reduce it to “what a creep” is what’s weird to me. That’s where it sort of requires a person to assume that women aren’t capable of having adult reactions, IMO	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/02/26 11:55 AM
1	Out of your partners who wouldn’t be able to attract you on a dating app, but did attract you in real life: what did they do? It’s just weird that their reaction to #MeToo has been to project a childlike sexual sensibility onto women, like instead of having an adult reaction it’s assumed that you would… what? Pull the covers off of him and then freak out because you saw him naked and got scared?	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/02/26 11:36 AM
1	Out of your partners who wouldn’t be able to attract you on a dating app, but did attract you in real life: what did they do? Im not vanilla at all. I also don’t view infantilizing women as blue pill	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/02/26 11:26 AM
3	Out of your partners who wouldn’t be able to attract you on a dating app, but did attract you in real life: what did they do? This is cute though	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/02/26 05:07 AM
–	Online feminism has adopted TRPs selfishness Sure. Three women at my work have said “I hate all men” or “I hate white men,” to me. One is a C-level, another is a department head, and the third is my colleague. They say it with the implication that this doesn’t apply to me, and I understand that. But they’ll also say things like “that’s such a man thing to do,” “the bar is in hell,” and make other comments like that that sort of imply a strong bias. Outside of work, plenty of women have told me jokingly that they hate all men. But it’s not …	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/02/26 10:55 PM
1	What is Red Pill for you? I consider the blue pill, essentially, progressive resistance to the conservative underpinnings of red pill. Red pill puts forth a theory (I.e. women only like tall, rich guys with big dicks) and blue pill claps back, calling out the misogyny of the premise, pointing out counter examples, and challenging the gender essentialist logic of most red pill claims. I don’t think blue pill is as definable because it is more reacting to red pill ideology. You could argue that feminism is blue pill, but t…	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/02/26 03:36 AM
1	What is Red Pill for you? This is an excellent write up and pretty much what I was considering writing, but more flushed out. Good job.	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/02/26 03:26 AM
1	"Dating for men is so easy. You have to be normal" Is one of the most cringe and false statements of all time This happens both ways though. When men complain about women’s unreasonable standard, they aren’t counting the ugly women who might sleep with them. They only mean the mid to attractive women who won’t sleep with them.	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/02/26 03:20 AM
8	Do women have a thing that they want to be the only one a man does it for? Not OP, but no. Both are wrong. It’s fine to feel that want, but retroactively jealousy is an unreasonable expectation to put on anyone.	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/02/26 01:00 PM
4	Sex is good for men and women to do It’s weird because sex positive spaces are typically heavily feminist, largely because, as u/kaleidoscopetide points out, sex positivity came out of feminism (or at least was largely bolstered by it). But I think considering feminists as a group sex positive is like saying “republicans freed the slaves.” It’s just so the opposite of what we see all around us. I left feminism because I’m sex positive, and at this point the two feel mutually exclusive (and also because feminism as a movement has b…	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/02/26 05:05 AM
9	Sex is good for men and women to do How is it detrimental to children for adults to have sex? There’s nothing inherently immoral about sleeping with someone.	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/02/26 05:02 AM
1	Sex is good for men and women to do While I wish that were true, the sex positivity subs have like a few thousand members, and the arguments I see in feminist subs are hardly sex positive. The pornismisogyny sub has 330k. They moved the Overton window to a ridiculous point. Mainstream feminism abandoned sex positivity a decade or two ago in favor of casting men as lecherous rapists. Edit to clarify my point a little.	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/02/26 04:57 AM
-1	Sex is good for men and women to do Feminists are the most sex negative people on the planet. They make conservatives look like libertines.	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/02/26 04:33 AM
8	Sex is good for men and women to do It isn’t a bad thing anyway. It doesn’t harm anyone, so why do you feel the need to police it and restrict other people’s liberty?	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/02/26 04:32 AM
3	Sex is good for men and women to do Most basement dwellers (I.e. incels and the general population of guys who don’t like or interact with women irl) are not sex positive. If you’re sex positive that’s great and I support you in that. I wish more people would recognize that shaming people for their sexual identity, sexual orientation, and sexual expression is bigotry adjacent.	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/02/26 04:29 AM
–	Relationships are transactional To put it this way, I don’t think transaction automatically nullifies love. I think healthy relationships are symbiotic; both people get something from it, but more than that their love fulfills one another. When you love someone it feels like you become a part of each other. You share in their grief and their delight. There’ll always be some transactional aspect due to inhabiting separate bodies, but the deeper in love you are the less it matters who benefits from what.	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/02/26 03:50 AM
4	Motherhood is a bad deal (and it's reasonable to opt out) I have a friend who absolutely loves being a mom. She needs at least a part time job, but I’m pretty sure if she had one wish it would be to just be a full time mom. Being a parent is difficult but plenty of people opt into it because it’s the thing that makes them happiest in the world, and j think it’s a little inaccurate to present full time motherhood as the hardest job in the world, given that it’s exactly how many women would prefer to live their lives.	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/02/26 01:41 AM
–	DISCUSSION🗨️ ABOUT MAIN PPD POSTS📮, LOOKS👀, AND N-COUNT🔢 ARE RESTRICTED🚫 FROM THE DAILY🌞 MEGATHREAD🧵 Yup. If she’s not into shorter men (or men with kids or ex wives, etc.) that’s fine. But it’s trashy to lead your profile with your want-nots. For me personally, it just reads as a not-so-humble brag from someone trying to project an air of having options. But if you actually have options there’s no need to insult people who don’t meat your criteria, you just don’t swipe on them. I.e. I don’t put “no fatties” in my profile, because I don’t want heavier set women to feel bad about me not finding …	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/02/26 08:00 PM
13	Relationships are transactional I’ll do you one better: life is transactional. No one has ever done anything out of pure selflessness or altruism. There isn’t a single behavior that can’t be explained by a self interested motivation. Even a monk who endeavors climb up the Himalayas in pursuit of some kind of ego death does so out of a belief that it’ll somehow fulfill them. Even a Mother running into a burning building to save her child does so out of a belief that the flames won’t hurt near as bad as the loss would. But this …	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/02/26 05:36 PM
7	Most People Are Not Compatible With Most People - That’s Why Dating Is Hard Spot on OP. This is also why so many people on the apps are “bad at talking.” I guarantee you these people have conversations in their daily life every day. They just have a different conversational style than you do, which is frustrating if you’re trying to romance them	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/02/26 04:22 PM
11	Why is "feeling like a dancing monkey" so triggering for you? I think this goes both ways though. There’s a reasonable expectation for men to put in some effort without resenting their potential love interests for it, and there’s a reasonable expectation from women for the men who pursue them to be actually interested in them beyond sex. Women underestimate the amount of women who use men for validation and men underestimate the amount of men who use women for validation. In both cases, people’s complaints about feeling used can be valid. They can also be …	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/02/26 03:44 PM
3	Online feminism has adopted TRPs selfishness I was literally in the comments just arguing with TERFs all night. I think you just need to recalibrate what you think is “slanted against men.” I’m a ma but I still care about being fair to women and seeing things as they are rather than only having sensitivity to things that affect men.	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/02/26 12:41 PM
5	Online feminism has adopted TRPs selfishness I’m not a centrist. I’m a hard line leftist. I don’t tolerate sexism from men or women. That’s stupid and bigoted. The debate as I see it is between sexists and anti sexists. Sort of like the debate about racial politics in America is between racists and anti-racists, not whites vs blacks. There are plenty of progressive white people who don’t tolerate racism, just like there are plenty of men and women who don’t tolerate sexism (although I think most people are sexist to varying degrees regardl…	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/02/26 07:06 AM
1	Online feminism has adopted TRPs selfishness I agree. Although I’m sex positive. I think a lot of the valid repulsion to sexual violence gets used as a cover to promote a puritan worldview of sex as inherently dangerous, dirty, degrading, and bad (i.e. it’s like how “think of the children!” gets used by people who don’t actually give a fuck about children to censor and roll back adult’s rights, except the discourse around sex is getting to the point where full grown adults are treated like children). Edit: As examples, there’s a post in r/…	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/02/26 06:48 AM
7	Online feminism has adopted TRPs selfishness I feel like you say that to me a lot. I’m an old school, liberal male feminist, not a boys-vs-girls feminist. I oppose sexism, and that includes calling out sexism that women direct at men. IMO it’s not possible to support sexism in one direction without presupposing a bunch of sexist beliefs in the other direction, so I hate radical feminists as much as their male equivalents, incels. My enemy is sexism, not men.	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/02/26 06:37 AM
3	Online feminism has adopted TRPs selfishness I think may women underestimate the amount of misandry men encounter in real life.	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/02/26 06:12 AM
4	Online feminism has adopted TRPs selfishness When feminists stop believing in equality it just becomes a hate movement. Modern feminism has brought radical feminism mainstream (I.e. exclusionary feminsim that scoffs at equality and attempts to delegitimize it as “egalitarianism.” Exclusionary feminism that reframes the discourse around sexism as “misogyny” to conveniently delegitimize complaints about their own sexist behaviors and exclude male allyship). No, feminists were not always sexist. It’s a new thing and it matters.	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/02/26 06:10 AM
3	GenZ women's "icks" are just a manifestation of their innate preference for rigid gender roles and archetypes. Oh right, I forgot to add “and this is women’s fault because…” /j	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/02/26 01:03 AM
1	Q4W: I was surprised by all the misandry I see in this sub. Where do you think women learn to be misandrists. If you are personally misandrist, where did you learn it? How can women unlearn it? It all boils down to an insistence on enforcing patriarchal gender norms, IMO. Radical feminists constantly and reflexively reinforce patriarchal gender norms that harm men, but in doing so reinforce gender norms that harm women (I.e. when they say men shouldn’t take offense to sexism directed at them and chide them for being sensitive, it implies that sensitivity is a female trait). A man doing that is displaying “toxic masculinity” or being “misogynistic.” But radfems believe that because they…	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/02/26 01:01 AM
1	Q4W: I was surprised by all the misandry I see in this sub. Where do you think women learn to be misandrists. If you are personally misandrist, where did you learn it? How can women unlearn it? Why would someone being non-western imply that they can’t or don’t understand feminism? I think someone who identifies as a “woman-adjacent queerdo” probably understands sex based discrimination way better than someone spouting off a bunch of white western feminist bs that boils down to “girls are good and men bad.” Radical feminism is frankly embarrassing. All it does is undercut actual feminism by presenting feminism as another form of sex based bigotry. And the fact that you have to attack pe…	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/02/26 12:31 AM
12	GenZ women's "icks" are just a manifestation of their innate preference for rigid gender roles and archetypes. So much of twentieth century sci-fi was about humanity being unprepared for the exponential advance of technology and its potential misuse, (largely because of the atrocities that the world wars brought on. I.e. Aldous Huxley, George Orwell, Kurt Vonnegut). I grew up loving these books. I read almost every Huxley and Vonnegut novel. It’s pretty dystopian to see previously unimagined technologies being used to actively harm people in hitherto unexamined ways, but it fills me with a dread that if …	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/02/26 11:41 PM
1	Q4W: I was surprised by all the misandry I see in this sub. Where do you think women learn to be misandrists. If you are personally misandrist, where did you learn it? How can women unlearn it? Except they aren’t, for the reason I just explained. Red pill is “gender norms should be socially enforced because they’ll view are innate to one’s gender, which is a good thing.” Blue pill is a repudiation of red pill sexism.	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/02/26 11:25 PM
1	Q4W: I was surprised by all the misandry I see in this sub. Where do you think women learn to be misandrists. If you are personally misandrist, where did you learn it? How can women unlearn it? There’s a bunch of them in this thread unfortunately.	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/02/26 11:21 PM
1	Q4W: I was surprised by all the misandry I see in this sub. Where do you think women learn to be misandrists. If you are personally misandrist, where did you learn it? How can women unlearn it? Why do you think I don’t care about bigotry against women. Bigotry against trans women and trans men just pisses me off as much as bigotry against men. Funny you don’t care about that though	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/02/26 11:20 PM
1	Q4W: I was surprised by all the misandry I see in this sub. Where do you think women learn to be misandrists. If you are personally misandrist, where did you learn it? How can women unlearn it? Sorry for ambiguity. For clarification I think trans people as a group are obviously more oppressed than women as a group. But I also think arguing with radical feminists is kind of pointless because they’ll view kim Kardashian as oppressed in relation to a homeless man. That’s what I mean when I say the context is pointless for them. They view victimhood as a fundamental aspect of femininity and see anyone else claiming femininity as an attempt at stolen valor.	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/02/26 08:53 PM
1	Q4W: I was surprised by all the misandry I see in this sub. Where do you think women learn to be misandrists. If you are personally misandrist, where did you learn it? How can women unlearn it? Yes. Women are more privileged than trans people.	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/02/26 08:50 PM
2	Q4W: I was surprised by all the misandry I see in this sub. Where do you think women learn to be misandrists. If you are personally misandrist, where did you learn it? How can women unlearn it? I think it’s a valid criteria. Red pill espouses gender norms and their social enforcement. Transphobia comes from feeling threatened by deviation from gender norms, and demonizes people for resisting gender roles. Theres nothing progressive or blue pill about transphobia, so they shouldn’t pretend to be middle of the road sexists.	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/02/26 08:34 PM
2	Q4W: I was surprised by all the misandry I see in this sub. Where do you think women learn to be misandrists. If you are personally misandrist, where did you learn it? How can women unlearn it? I think you are privileged in comparison to trans people. Definitely.	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/02/26 08:28 PM
2	Q4W: I was surprised by all the misandry I see in this sub. Where do you think women learn to be misandrists. If you are personally misandrist, where did you learn it? How can women unlearn it? I’m not a misogynist. I believe in equality, something no doubt think is misogynist. But as they say, “to the privileged, equality seems like oppression.”	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/02/26 08:19 PM
1	Q4W: I was surprised by all the misandry I see in this sub. Where do you think women learn to be misandrists. If you are personally misandrist, where did you learn it? How can women unlearn it? Yeah these people are just hateful bigots who can’t fathom that maybe if you base your whole ideology on identity politics that automatically frame you as the victim, then you’re the problem. Edit to add: you aren’t fucking purple pill if you’re a transphobe, so they should fix that to say “red pill.”	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/02/26 08:00 PM
1	Q4W: I was surprised by all the misandry I see in this sub. Where do you think women learn to be misandrists. If you are personally misandrist, where did you learn it? How can women unlearn it? The left-wing misogynists… think their politics should make them immune to being a misogynist (although that's also amusing), but the real message they are telling women is that males are gonna male, regardless of politics, so really none of them are good people for women to trust and partner with The irony of you thinking that your sex makes you automatically immune to being sexist, but a male challenging you to be less sexist is automatically a “misogynist.”	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/02/26 07:59 PM
3	Q4W: I was surprised by all the misandry I see in this sub. Where do you think women learn to be misandrists. If you are personally misandrist, where did you learn it? How can women unlearn it? Thanks for proving my point. You have to be deluded to think a trans person has an easier time in life than a cis woman. They face greater dangers in dating, more discrimination in the workplace, greater threats than women politically, and the discourse is around their very right to exist. Every metric shows trans people face more severe challenges than women. You basically have to internalize such a victim complex that you view cis women’s lives as fundamentally more difficult even if the entir…	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/02/26 07:56 PM
57	GenZ women's "icks" are just a manifestation of their innate preference for rigid gender roles and archetypes. They aren’t innate. They’re learned and socially enforced. But I agree they’re mostly an expression of women’s sexism, and the women dismissing them here are normalizing the same patriarchal gender prescripts that harm women.	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/02/26 05:41 PM
6	Q4W: I was surprised by all the misandry I see in this sub. Where do you think women learn to be misandrists. If you are personally misandrist, where did you learn it? How can women unlearn it? Precisely. Their identity politics supersede any and all context, which is stupid because their arguments hinge on the idea that a person’s identity matters because of the inequality inherent to socially enforced power dynamics. I.e. they invalidate any unfairness that trans women face because they were not born into it, but they invalidate the unfairness trans men face because they elected into it. Not to mention it’s just fucking insane to think women are more oppressed as a group than trans p…	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/02/26 03:31 PM
5	Q4W: I was surprised by all the misandry I see in this sub. Where do you think women learn to be misandrists. If you are personally misandrist, where did you learn it? How can women unlearn it? Edit: sorry, meant to reply to the other comment. But your comment doesn’t surprise me at all. I’ve had similar experiences with queer women and NBs.	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/02/26 03:29 PM
-1	Q4W: I was surprised by all the misandry I see in this sub. Where do you think women learn to be misandrists. If you are personally misandrist, where did you learn it? How can women unlearn it? I feel like only trans/NBs get enough exposure to misandry to see how it isn’t much different from misogyny/homophobia. A terf refuting a trans person’s identity isn’t much different from a maga doing the same thing, for instance, and it’s kind of grosser because a supposed feminist should understand why that’s wrong.	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/02/26 02:22 PM
4	Alluring power is real and it's toxic to deny it. Excellent post. I also feel like there’s this weird social messaging that women’s power derives from their sexual and romantic potential because that is where it should derive from while men’s derives from their ability to provide and compete. To suggest otherwise is almost met with hostility and defensiveness. Sexists of both genders decry the challenges they face while sort of bragging off-handedly about their advantages as if the advantages have nothing to do with the power balance. It’s all …	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/02/26 01:48 PM
2	Love bombing and cold disinterest What I’m saying is that I’m skeptical of the concept of “love bombing” in general. When I like someone I like to be able to compliment them without it being taken as a manipulation tactic. It actually feels much more manipulative to me that I have to intentionally be more withholding at the start of a relationship (similar to having to wait to text to not come off desperate). But since “love bombing” has entered the cultural lexicon it’s just a reality that being honest about your positive feeli…	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/02/26 11:25 AM
2	Love bombing and cold disinterest I have an opposing theory to what gets peddled here. It’s survivorship bias. Healthy women accept compliments and praise, pair off, and remove themselves from the dating pool. The remainder get suspicious of compliments, internalize a weird “love is a lie” mentality, and view men who compliment them as suspect. Being aloof and feigning disinterest will take you far. But for me personally I want a woman who responds positively to positivity.	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/02/26 06:53 AM
8	What do you actually want women to do? This content was anonymized and mass deleted with Redact	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/02/26 10:06 PM
6	You're single until you're married. At least if you look most of the responses vehemently disagree.	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/02/26 10:33 PM
0	How much do/can a woman who says they hate men or complain about men as a whole or say they’re anti “man” actually like or care about their male friends I’m paraphrasing. This is what you intellectually launder, and it’s thread bare to anyone who doesn’t share your bigoted perspective of things.	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/02/26 01:50 AM
1	The battle of the sexes in dating is mostly an online thing. I had a similar experience.	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/02/26 01:12 AM
1	How much do/can a woman who says they hate men or complain about men as a whole or say they’re anti “man” actually like or care about their male friends “I’m not sexist. I can’t be because I was born a woman, and due to systemic oppression that means that when I adopt identical belief structures to the sexists I hate, it’s a good thing.”	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/02/26 01:05 AM
2	How much do/can a woman who says they hate men or complain about men as a whole or say they’re anti “man” actually like or care about their male friends my position is it isn’t comparable to a white person being racist Yes it literally is, because you’re adopting the same fundamentally flawed practice of using a hate-based heuristic to reinforce your own bias against a group. if you wanted an actual equivalent you could’ve mentioned black people who say they hate white people. Except that isn’t comparable at all. Black people face extreme and obvious disadvantages in the West that women do not. For example, they’re incarcerated at disproportiona…	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/02/26 01:04 AM
1	How much do/can a woman who says they hate men or complain about men as a whole or say they’re anti “man” actually like or care about their male friends Your position is just “you don’t understand. It cannot be sexism when I do it because I’m a girl, and women are born victims of bad evil men.” Thats stupid and sexist on its face, but it also inadvertently reinforces patriarchal attitudes that present women as incapable of taking criticism or being held accountable. The rightness or wrongness of an opinion does not reside in your uterus. The gender of the person having the thought doesn’t impact whether the thought is correct or not, and it does…	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/02/26 12:40 AM
2	How much do/can a woman who says they hate men or complain about men as a whole or say they’re anti “man” actually like or care about their male friends I fully understand what radical feminism is (which is why I’m picking it apart while you do the same sexist thing you always do, which is rely on the existence of gender to declare yourself automatically right as if sex the defining, essential thing that makes a person good or bad). Your whole ideology hinges on the belief that a person’s sex is their preeminent feature and the basis of whether they are good or bad. You are undeniably a sexist. But it also makes your position fundamentally hypoc…	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/02/26 12:36 AM
2	How much do/can a woman who says they hate men or complain about men as a whole or say they’re anti “man” actually like or care about their male friends Misandrists use the same hate based psychological mechanisms that Nazis, KKK members, and ICE agents use to automatically discount and dehumanize the people they hate, and systemically oppress them. Exclusionary radical feminism is the ideology that intellectually launders this hate based perspective, and morning all the same sexist narratives that red pill misogynists believe in. Pink pill is literally just red pill for girls. The primary focus of exclusionary radical feminism is reinforcing pa…	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/02/26 12:05 AM
3	How much do/can a woman who says they hate men or complain about men as a whole or say they’re anti “man” actually like or care about their male friends It’s entirely comparable as regards individual bigots. The same psychological mechanisms are at play.	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/02/26 11:51 PM
6	How much do/can a woman who says they hate men or complain about men as a whole or say they’re anti “man” actually like or care about their male friends They don’t consider their male friends men. One time I was covering my friend’s job for July 4th. I was riding in a truck all day retrieving bounce houses in the city, and I discovered my partner for this was super racist. He used the N word about once a minute, it felt like. We got to a house and retrieved a bounce house from a super nice family. “That guy was one of the good ones,” he said. We went to the next house. Same deal. Working class people showing their kids a good time. “One of the g…	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/02/26 08:46 PM
1	Implicit beliefs matter more than explicit beliefs. Just like actions speak louder than words. There are two problems with their claim, IMO. The first is that the people who claim to be sex positive and the people who slut shame are two different groups. Or, secondly, if you claim they’re actually the same group, on what grounds are you making that claim? It’s like people saying “the real racists are progressives” because they can’t imagine that some people who care about race are actually not racist. What about people who actually aren’t racist? Some people (myself included) are sex posi…	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/02/26 05:48 PM
5	No, people don't hate feminine men because of "misogyny" or a broad hatred of femininity “People don’t respect women less because of ‘misogyny’.” Source: a misogynist who respects women less because they are women.	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/02/26 04:16 PM
1	Why straight women attracted to women much more than straight men to men? I’m going to assume you at least agree that orientation originates with biological sex, not gender. I’m not sure I understand the question here, but my take would be that orientation is a mix of nature/nurture. While gender is a social construct, I don’t think it’s entirely irrelevant to how orientations develop. People seem biologically predisposed to their orientations, meaning some people are predisposed to having their sexual activates by exposure to masculine forms/sexual energy, while othe…	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/02/26 02:37 PM
1	Why straight women attracted to women much more than straight men to men? I agree. I consider myself 100% straight, and I’m not shy about my sexuality in other regards. I can recognize a man as attractive, but that doesn’t make me want to sleep with them at all and I don’t get hard thinking about a man’s ass. I’m watching and discussing Heated Rivalry with women right now clearly they do get something out of it in a way that I don’t even though j can still appreciate the show. But I think the backlash men face for homosexuality is more extreme, and leads many of them …	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/02/26 10:37 AM
1	Why straight women attracted to women much more than straight men to men? orientation is innate I think this is an interesting question and less cut and dry than “orientation” is innate. We aren’t born knowing what men and women are. I think if we were born without arms and legs in an island of people without arms and legs, and raised around them and socialized with them and never exposed to arms and legs, then you would find arms and legs off putting generally and sexually repulsive. I don’t think the “beauty” of the human body is innate that way. I do think there ar…	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/02/26 10:17 AM
9	Why straight women attracted to women much more than straight men to men? 100% Misandrists frame it like women like women because women are objectively beautiful (which isn’t how beauty works in a psyche. People develop sexuality through exposure and conditioning). But this plays off of misogynists’ constant objectification of women and vocal disgust of masculine love. Additionally, male homoeroticism is viewed as emasculating to a much greater extent than female homoeroticism (there’s the “butch” stereotype, but I don’t think people view sapphic love as butchifying, …	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/02/26 04:47 AM
4	What do you think about some women being happy single and “not needing men”? You’re so real for this. At the same time, I think some people genuinely don’t feel the need for intimacy and deep human connection the way you and I feel it. That said, it’s way fewer than the amount of women who pretend that single life is winning. You can be sure that anyone flaunting how happy they are after cutting the other gender out of their life is doing it as a way of getting back at the other gender.	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/02/26 03:09 AM
2	What do you think Blue Pill is? I also find the discourse around blue pill being the mainstream erroneous. Red pill takes are basically heteronormative takes. “Women like being spoiled and doted on.” “Men are supposed to initiate and prove their value through material gain.” “It’s okay to be a little sexist because reality is a little sexist” Are those not mainstream beliefs? What media are you consuming that counters this messaging? I’m not saying there are no stories that examine and construe these narratives, but even romco…	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/02/26 06:23 PM
2	women on reddit are very much part of the problem Yeah, just keep in mind that the loons don’t speak for all women. And also that women see the equivalent in incels, which you anI j probably summarily dismiss because we know how pathetic they are. It’s gotta be distressing and frustrating for women to see dudes claiming that legalizing rape would fix the world	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/02/26 02:21 AM
5	Most women in "open" relationships would instantly break up if their husbands or boyfriends slept with another man. I’ve been in open relationships where I’ve slept with other women and we didn’t break up. I’ve also known ENM couples where this happens regularly. A lot of women find men who are already in a relationship more attractive, and if they don’t have hang ups about him being with other women it can be non-issue. There’s nothing inherent to women that makes them more or less tolerant of polyamory/ENM	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/02/26 12:57 PM
-1	Most women in "open" relationships would instantly break up if their husbands or boyfriends slept with another man. I would also argue that, if what you are attracted to in a trans woman or femme gay men is the femininity that they present, that isn’t inherently gay.	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/02/26 12:54 PM
1	women on reddit are very much part of the problem Hate isn’t acceptable in either case. I know plenty of women who’ve been assaulted who don’t hate men. And being hurt by some women hasn’t turned me into a misogynist. But if I went online and took every opportunity to hurt and malign women who were suffering and rubbed my advantages in their faces, I could see how that might create some misandrists.	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/02/26 11:17 AM
8	women on reddit are very much part of the problem I think what they’re trying to talk about extends beyond people coming onto Reddit to ask for specific dating advice. What they’re describing is women who use their asymmetrical power in the dating sphere to emotionally wound men who are already emotionally wounded. This creates misogynists by making women look like sexually/romantically privileged cry bullies who position their unfair advantage in dating as a kind of natural order while men’s advantages in the rest of society. Which all reinfor…	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/02/26 11:04 AM
0	women on reddit are very much part of the problem That’s part of it, but there are also sexist women who just like to rub salt in the wound because it makes them feel powerful. I agree with OP these women create misogynists	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/02/26 10:37 AM
1	women on reddit are very much part of the problem Tbh offline I think women generally are fairer to men. It’s harder to be a douche to someone in person. That said I’ve seen them also be sexist and disingenuous offline (I just think it’s less common).	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/02/26 10:33 AM
1	Let’s talk about sex Aw, you’re sweet to say that	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/02/26 04:03 AM
–	Women can't start having sex on the first date Yeah, I’m going to stop arguing with them.	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/02/26 02:37 AM
–	Women can't start having sex on the first date I’m an actual feminist. That’s why it’s easy to pick your argument apart.	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/02/26 02:17 AM
1	Women can't start having sex on the first date Is that maybe why she didn’t describe it as a mistake? Why was your assumption that she (or any woman making a similar decision about her own body) is immature?	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/02/26 02:17 AM
–	Women can't start having sex on the first date What if you go into it having thought about, having made sure they were clean, worn condoms, and with an IUD (like OP said) and you determined that the risks were acceptable? Why is OP immature for that?	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/02/26 02:15 AM
–	Women can't start having sex on the first date What is “immature” about having sex on a first date? Sounds like something adults do tbh	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/02/26 02:08 AM
–	Women can't start having sex on the first date Just want to note OP is a radfem, not a man.	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/02/26 02:06 AM
–	Women can't start having sex on the first date I don’t see where she called it a mistake anywhere. It sounds like an experience she chose to have that she’s unashamed of.	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/02/26 02:05 AM
–	Women can't start having sex on the first date The problem with holding an indefensible position is that it’ll get torn apart anywhere that doesn’t actively censor opposition and encourage hate. Edit to add: women can call out hate too. I don’t know why you’re pretending women never call out sexism when the feminist movement itself is quite large, and many feminists do call out sexism amongst radfems.	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/02/26 02:01 AM
–	Women can't start having sex on the first date A “mistake” to who? Why does anyone else get to decide that for her?	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/02/26 02:01 AM
–	Women can't start having sex on the first date What’s your experience been?	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/02/26 01:53 AM
–	Women can't start having sex on the first date You can call out whatever you want bae	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/02/26 01:49 AM
–	Women can't start having sex on the first date Yeah sorry for the novel. I guess the one sentence breakdown is they think casting women as unaccountable victims in everything has more pros than cons.	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/02/26 01:48 AM
–	Women can't start having sex on the first date This sort of requires a deeper understanding of different kinds of feminism. Liberal feminism is what’s commonly thought of as high brow gender equality focused feminism. It’s about restoring justice to women by reducing or eliminating sexism. It’s inclusive. Radical feminism reorients this conversation away from equality. It’s exclusive, pushing out anyone who wasn’t born a woman (and women who transition to men) or who doesn’t behave in a way conducive to feminism. It rejects gender equality a…	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/02/26 01:38 AM
–	Women can't start having sex on the first date That’s radical feminism for you. Basically “we believe all the same sexist narratives as red-pill but we’re on the girl’s side.”	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/02/26 01:15 AM
1	Women can't start having sex on the first date Ding ding ding	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/02/26 01:02 AM
–	Women can't start having sex on the first date I think OP is a woman btw	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/02/26 12:56 AM
–	Women can't start having sex on the first date How can you know if you consented? It’s probably that societal forces coerced you into it because you weren’t mature enough. I think me and a bunch of other people should probably way in in whether your consent counted /s	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/02/26 12:49 AM
6	Are current partners less loved than previous ones? It’s Percy Bysshe Shelley, basically his argument and philosophical framework for polyamory with Mary Shelley. I have a similar view. The end is sort of a foregone conclusion so I try to appreciate my time with people	/r/PurplePillDebate	31/01/26 11:42 PM
8	Are current partners less loved than previous ones? True love, in this, differs from gold and clay: that to divide is not to take away.	/r/PurplePillDebate	31/01/26 11:14 PM
9	People say “demisexual” when they’re really describing the normal sexuality of a typical female One thing I’ll concede too is that I think some women are genuinely turned off by nice/stable/“safe.” But I think of this as sort of an inverted Madonna/whore complex at play. That is, most guys want a woman who would be a good partner and mother and who is also sexually available to them, but some have a complex that mutually excludes those two things. Most women want a man who sexually excites them while emotionally regulating them, but some have a complex that makes these mutually exclusive. …	/r/PurplePillDebate	31/01/26 11:08 PM
2	People say “demisexual” when they’re really describing the normal sexuality of a typical female It’s “their fault” if they can’t recognize that women experience sexuality differently than men do. I think most guys benefit from understanding that even though women are more selective, that doesn’t automatically filter them out of every woman’s dating pool, because women have higher variability in terms of what they’re attracted to. That’s good news for men, but so many choose this defeatist interpretation that they’ll never achieve peak 10% of desirability, so they go against the most basic …	/r/PurplePillDebate	31/01/26 09:13 PM
16	People say “demisexual” when they’re really describing the normal sexuality of a typical female I’ve had a couple arguments in this sub recently with red pillers, who argue that women dont like “safe” men, and that safety is a turnoff to them. What you’re describing, the level of comfort before you’d consider physical intimacy with someone, is exactly what red pill misunderstands about female sexuality, IMO. Because masculine sexuality is viewed as bold and brash, they think that the boldness and brashness is what attracts women to men. And that’s true to a certain extent. But it isn’t tru…	/r/PurplePillDebate	31/01/26 08:06 PM
3	People say “demisexual” when they’re really describing the normal sexuality of a typical female “Intellectual connection” is maybe the wrong term. I just mean a connection that involves non-physical compatibility. Ie. Mental/emotional/personal connection. I disagree somewhat that intellect can’t play a role in attractiveness. I don’t mean intellect in the sense of abstract philosophical thought or whatever. But as an example in Pride and Prejudice, Elizabeth and Mr. Darcy share an intellectual compatibility. They’re both super emotionally intelligent in a way that positions them outside of…	/r/PurplePillDebate	31/01/26 07:50 PM
3	Let’s talk about sex Good luck on your hunt. I’d say look at switches the most since, like you, I think sex should be about having fun, and switches are people who are in it for the fun of it most of the time IMO. They’re more likely to try Domming even if it isn’t their go to	/r/PurplePillDebate	31/01/26 06:54 PM
3	Let’s talk about sex Yep. You sound like a good Domme. The onus is definitely on us to create a safe space for communication, so getting a lot of information up front helps. I should also note the first few times with my current sub was more verbal communication intensive so that we could establish that baseline trust.	/r/PurplePillDebate	31/01/26 06:36 PM
2	People say “demisexual” when they’re really describing the normal sexuality of a typical female u/paley1 is interpreting me correctly, but I want to stress that this isn’t a hill I’d die on. What I’m saying is basically that it isn’t as uncommon as people think for a random man to have a lower sex drive than a random woman, or for a random woman to desire a relationship less than a random man does. I think there’s more variability within the groups “men” and “women” than there is average difference between “what men like” and “what women like.”	/r/PurplePillDebate	31/01/26 06:34 PM
3	Let’s talk about sex For reference I’m a Dom leaning switch, though I really do love when j find a woman who can assume a more dominant role. I think on some level people land on a spectrum in terms of how much communication they like and require. Three quick examples: Zero communication: I was dating a woman who was very deferential and shy but she had a high sex drive, loved penetration, and came easily from penetration alone (luckiest girl in the world I guess. And lucky me). She was horrendous at communicating, …	/r/PurplePillDebate	31/01/26 06:19 PM
1	People say “demisexual” when they’re really describing the normal sexuality of a typical female What I’m getting at is better expressed by my comment here. I’m curious your thoughts on it.	/r/PurplePillDebate	31/01/26 05:07 PM
8	Let’s talk about sex M/30s/North East USA/atheist In general I consider myself exceptional in bed. Sex is my reason for being. It isn’t a “need” in the sense that I’ll die without it, but it’s a biological imperative in that my body automatically seeks it and as you put it, it’s a requirement for mental and emotional well being for me. I don’t want kids and view reducing sex to procreation as like reducing comedy to “benefits lung health.” It centers a tangentially related consequence of the physical act instead of …	/r/PurplePillDebate	31/01/26 05:05 PM
5	People say “demisexual” when they’re really describing the normal sexuality of a typical female OP is arguing that for women, sexuality tends to require non-physical attraction too, built on emotional and intellectual connection. I don’t think those things are as important for men, and as a consequence I think men’s attraction to women is more looks based than the other way around. I think women actually value looks significantly less than men, which isn’t to say that they don’t matter at all. But they matter much less.	/r/PurplePillDebate	31/01/26 03:49 PM
1	People say “demisexual” when they’re really describing the normal sexuality of a typical female Women can find “a partner” regardless of looks, but the quality of partner they find is going to be heavily looks dependent. Men go for the most attractive women they can get. I mean, looking at this the other way, it’s saying men don’t care about education level or degree. But does anyone honestly believe men don’t judge women based on their looks when considering partners?	/r/PurplePillDebate	31/01/26 03:41 PM
4	doordash girl, amber heard and uswnt court cases showed how certain people abuse feminism to excuse toxic behavior of women I agree with your first comment entirely and that’s sort of where I sit. I think the examples and the Ansari case are sort of good examples of how feminist purity testing results in backlash against feminist hypocrisy and moral/logical incoherence. What, you don’t believe that this adult woman was criminally harmed by “accidentally” seeing a PENIS?! You don’t believe that this narcissistic celebrity was entirely POWERLESS in her personal relationship? You don’t believe this woman’s SEXUAL discom…	/r/PurplePillDebate	31/01/26 03:23 PM
2	People say “demisexual” when they’re really describing the normal sexuality of a typical female Sure. I appreciate your caveat at the end of your post, but I also think this point is relevant since deviation within men and deviation within women is greater than the average difference between men and women, and that point sometimes gets lost.	/r/PurplePillDebate	31/01/26 03:05 PM
9	People say “demisexual” when they’re really describing the normal sexuality of a typical female I think this is sort of why so many redpillers and incels buy into the idea that women are “only attracted to the top 10% of men.” They see that women are more sexually selective than men, but don’t register that they aren’t selective in the same prominently looks based way that men are. Women aren’t all attracted to the same 10% of men (which is closer to how male sexuality works, where there’d be much more consensus on who is “objectively” attractive), but that each individual woman is only at…	/r/PurplePillDebate	31/01/26 03:02 PM
–	Modern " average " men are just repeating the same mistakes of the previous generation The “summer of love” was 1969 (same year as Woodstock). The sexual revolution was the 60s and 70s	/r/PurplePillDebate	31/01/26 02:20 PM
–	Q4M: Do most men really want trophy wives/gfs (or bfs if they’re gay/bi)? https://share.google/iuckHHCqcvzUORpyr Sorry, had to	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/01/26 10:32 PM
–	The ugly truth is that both feminism and the Red Pill are correct I’ve met plenty of radfems IRL. But, I’m sure you don’t exist offline. I always think the argument that toxic views only exist online, and that people don’t carry their sexism into the world stupid. I also notice it’s a uniquely radfem argument, enough that it’s essentially a dogwhistle for radical feminism. Like “you’ll never notice it in the real world, it’s just the bigoted belief system underpinning our entire personalities.” You don’t hear that from red pill, racists or other fascistic ideo…	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/01/26 02:04 PM
–	The ugly truth is that both feminism and the Red Pill are correct Are you joking? There isn’t a single feminist subreddit that isn’t actively hostile to men using the same arguments they use about TERFs. The reason so many TERFs and SWERFS come about is because those women see the same exclusionary arguments used over and over against men, and then it becomes their stance, and they put two and two together. I’ve argued with feminists in this sub who make the case that feminism is not and never was an equal rights movement, that gender equality is “egalitariani…	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/01/26 12:07 PM
–	The ugly truth is that both feminism and the Red Pill are correct The truth is that neither are correct. Feminism (by which I mean mainstream feminism, radical feminism, and misandry-as-feminism) and red pill both insist that these proclivities towards certain gendered observations are are facts about men and women, treating femininity and masculinity as essential elements of their being. This encourages people to treat men and women as “men” and “women,” socially enforcing gender binaries and punishing people who deviate from traditional femininity and mascul…	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/01/26 07:53 AM
3	Do men not seek companionship out of a relationship ? If that's the case, what's the reasoning ? Thanks. I wish more people would recognize that transactional view of sex and romance as toxic. People say this stuff like it’s a universal truth, but it’s the basis for a lot of incel/femcel rhetoric.	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/01/26 07:04 AM
2	Case Study - Where do you categorize this man? Would I consider him romantically successful? It really depends how happy they both are in their relationship. I don’t consider six figures with a college degree “average.” The median salary in the US was $62-63k, while 33% - 40% hold degrees, so we’re talking about roughly double that. He’s not “rich” but he’s definitively successful, career wise. Sexually he’s obviously a failure, and it’s hard for me to imagine a couple who are content with a dissatisfying sex life. But even this sort of boil…	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/01/26 05:50 AM
6	What is something you would wish men would STOP doing in dating? I think this is complex. On the one hand, I agree with you. I’m kind of an open book. It feels unnatural to me to not speak about life experiences, or to feel like I should be embarrassed for negative experiences I’ve had. I can tell a story about being abused, or getting my heart broken, or just a really shitty date in a pretty fun way that doesn’t betray too much bitterness, I think. And I really value a partner who can hear it without assuming that I deserved the abuse or that trusting them w…	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/01/26 05:14 AM
5	Do men not seek companionship out of a relationship ? If that's the case, what's the reasoning ? I guess it kinda depends. I prioritize companionship and sexual compatibility in a partnership. To me, that combination is romance. Companionship without emotional vulnerability doesn’t feel that authentic. Like I can take the piss with come construction bros while working together, but I don’t feel like they’re my friends. With my real friends we can fuck around and joke, but also have heart to hearts.	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/01/26 06:47 PM
9	Do men not seek companionship out of a relationship ? If that's the case, what's the reasoning ? Of course we seek companionship. There was a post the other day about some people seeing romantic and sexual pursuits as mutually exclusive, while others do NOT see them this way. I am firmly in the camp of not seeing them this way, meaning that for me, having sex with someone is part of getting to know them and developing companionship with them. my guess is that they already get it from their friendships so sex is really the only thing that’s left. I’d argue the complete opposite. The reason s…	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/01/26 04:59 PM
5	Why do women gaslight men so much? I did read it. I took insertable length not being a predictor of a toy’s popularity to mean that there isn’t a preference for longer dildos, especially since they state it twice and would have included it in their findings. Googling it suggests market research finds 4-6 inch dildos or 5-7 inch dildos sell the best (though actually finding this research I found a little tricky. Maybe market research is more proprietary), with some sources saying 6 inch dildos are most popular. I don’t know why wo…	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/01/26 01:53 AM
0	Men severely underestimate how bad they actually are. It’s also kinda like, “are we supposed to believe that all these chicks and dudes who vilify wo/men as a group are suddenly fair to their romantic interests and not dismissive and abusive?” Would someone who posts “men severely underestimate who much they suck” actually treat her man well? Of course not lol. You ain’t the prize you think you are sis	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/01/26 01:02 AM
10	Why do women gaslight men so much? Note: research finds that even though women prefer less morphologically accurate penetrative sex toys in terms of scrotums, glans/penile ridge, and aesthetics, the most popular toys reflect average penis size in length and slightly larger than average circumference.. If you don’t believe this one study, you’ll find there’s actually a fair amount of research corroborating this. It begs the question, if women actually preferred larger than average cock, how come when selecting from any size and sh…	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/01/26 12:45 AM
–	The Alex Pretti looksmaxx edit proves women won't have sympathy for you if you're an ugly man. This smells like bullshit. The “before” and “after” photos look edited both ways, one to make him look uglier and the other to make him more attractive. Comparing to other pictures of him, the one on the right looks closer. Also, the main difference between the two pics is the “lens” through which the picture was taken. Wide angle lenses make faces appear stretched while narrower lenses make them appear skinnier, so the same person can look like both of those images depending on the lens (I.e. 1…	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/01/26 12:50 PM
6	The bar is in hell and the guy who swiped on 2 million women on Tinder proves it. I book dates with like 30-40% of the women I chat with. If he’s booking dates with <0.1% of the women he’s talking with, he’s doing something wrong.	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/01/26 03:00 PM
9	What is princess treatment and why would it be appealing to a healthy adult male ? This, plus love languages. Some people have “gifts” and “acts of service” as their primary love languages. They like “princess treatment” because it’s a show of affection much the way words of affirmation and physical touch can be. Generally, women prefer to embody feminine roles and men prefer masculine, but this isn’t always the case. And while I’m generally masculine, I would love to be flown out to an island, gifted the world’s most luxuriant treats, and showered with kisses/worshipped. If a…	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/01/26 10:12 PM
2	Do you view being penetrated as submissive, degrading or bad? 1): No. Unless I’m literally (consensually) degrading her. Even then, I don’t think what I’m doing is morally wrong. 2): logically no. But irrationally yes. I’ve turned down being pegged before, not because I think there’s anything wrong with being penetrated, but because even though I recognize that I’ve been socialized to see it as degrading to be feminized, I think I wouldn’t enjoy it because it would feel gay to me, and I don’t want to feel gay. 3): most of my partners enjoy sex with me. Whe…	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/01/26 09:35 PM
3	If Christianity Is Returning to the West, Not Giving Women an Orgasm Should Be a Sin Again That’d be nice, but christian nationalism is more about hurting people who are different than you. Female orgasms don’t hurt anyone.	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/01/26 05:11 PM
9	Do women really sleep with the “hot guys” first and marry the average ones later? I had a friend, Ronnie, who was always dating beautiful women. It honestly puzzled me a little bit. He’s 5’6 or 5’7, and his face isn’t particularly attractive IMO. But he was fun to be around. He always knew where the party was. Always knew where to find party favors. He always had something fun going on. And he always had at least one gorgeous woman hanging off his shoulder. I don’t mean conventionally attractive women. I mean I mean 5’7, double-D, 135 lb model looking women. Women who stand o…	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/01/26 01:47 PM
3	Why is "sensory overload" not workinh with woman in Dating? I think the free choice paradox probably does lead women (and men) to be less satisfied with online dating. Women don’t claim to love online dating. The dating market is indifferent to whether its constraints (or lack-there-of) leave people more or less satisfied. But also most people don’t plan on being on them forever. So if having a wide set of options is less enjoyable when making the selection, that isn’t super relevant to future happiness. I doubt in the t-shirt experiment that the free ch…	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/01/26 10:24 PM
–	Woman are actually pretty bad at filtering. This is a great point. Red pill talks about women like if any woman enters a bad relationship, that’s proof that all women secretly want bad relationships. The way more obvious thing is that some women have unhealthy propensities, and also that some women are drawn to bad men because they are also bad people.	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/01/26 04:26 AM
1	What advice would you give a Men early 20- very early 30 I assume apps work in your twenties and it’s equally important, but I’m in my mid thirties so they weren’t as big when I was coming up. Also everyone was going out all the time. In your thirties there are just way fewer single people, so you basically need apps. I think you’re missing the point about accepting rejection gracefully. Women will read insecurity on you if you need them to accept you, so learning to accept rejection gracefully builds self esteem and confidence. It’s the most importan…	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/01/26 04:20 AM
7	What advice would you give a Men early 20- very early 30 In your twenties, get out to bars and shows and parties. Talk to everyone, not just the women you’re interested in. Make everyone feel welcome and try to be someone that people want to be around. Take chances and learn the difference between a woman who’s into you and those who want to be left alone. Develop a tolerance for rejection and don’t take it personally. In your thirties, curate your profile. Your profile pics should all be great, and they should all showcase a difference aspect of your…	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/01/26 01:21 AM
11	Most of the problems would be solved that's discussed in PPD if women stopped bitching. What, so anyone who disagrees with you is the problem? Fuck that. This post is sexist as shit	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/01/26 12:10 AM
0	Men who think the ability to do sex work is a "female privilege" vastly overestimate the economic feasibility of sex work for the average woman By that logic most men could become mercenaries and assassins, but that’s not really a privilege in any meaningful sense of the word.	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/01/26 09:12 PM
1	Men who think the ability to do sex work is a "female privilege" vastly overestimate the economic feasibility of sex work for the average woman I believe you. This is my only real data point and the rest is guess work. I can speculate based on a couple cam girls I’ve met. The one lived in a $4k apartment that’s he split with her ex, and the other lived in a $2k loft. Both were in expensive but somewhat seedy parts of town. The second looked much closer to the dream of a high end escort living a lavish life, and her loft was as essentially a sex parlor with manikins in bondage harnesses, sex toys and literature on sex lying around. She m…	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/01/26 09:01 PM
0	Men who think the ability to do sex work is a "female privilege" vastly overestimate the economic feasibility of sex work for the average woman Just want to note 300 quid is $405, so not all that far off. Also these women were pretty but they weren’t exceptional. They don’t look like high end escorts, just regular hot girls.	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/01/26 08:39 PM
-1	Men who think the ability to do sex work is a "female privilege" vastly overestimate the economic feasibility of sex work for the average woman Actually, about a month ago a friend and I matched with a couple women on tinder (with that double date feature). They said their love language was Venmo. I thought they were joking and flirted, but they responded unironically that it’s $500 each. It seems like that’s probably normal	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/01/26 08:27 PM
11	For men who say they’re afraid of being used by women, what are the things she’s using men for? What are the signs a woman is using a man? What are the signs she isn’t using a man? Firstly, I think straight up usage is very uncommon. I think most of the time people who were rejected are bitter about having spent money on a date, invested emotionally on a person who didn’t reciprocate, or performing sexual favors for someone who didn’t want to commit. They retroactively frame their unrequited interest as “getting used,” even though they freely spent, gave, performed. That said, I’ve had a couple experiences that felt pretty nakedly manipulative. This includes buying tickets…	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/01/26 07:03 PM
3	Is sexual enthusiasm behaviour that's for Chads only? This seems pretty uninformed. Most men who aren’t into kink are dominant. If anything I feel like you’re more likely to find a subby or switchy guy than in vanilla dating. But if you’re that judgey you probably wouldn’t be welcome	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/01/26 03:46 PM
5	Is sexual enthusiasm behaviour that's for Chads only? What am I on about? You’re the one projecting your victim complex onto women. they believe that are oppressed avd they are in a precarious position all the time, so it is right for them to focus on themselves. Isn’t that exactly what you believe,except about men? And anyway it sounds like your frustration with this comes from your recognition that it is wrong, so why are you perpetuating it in your side?	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/01/26 02:25 PM
0	Is sexual enthusiasm behaviour that's for Chads only? You should check out your local kink scene if you haven’t already. IMO it’s a world of difference dating people who are sex positive. I felt like I found my tribe. It also exposes a lot of what gets talked about as universal truths in PPD as kind of bullshit, since there’s an alternative dating scene where many of those “truths” don’t hold up. I.e. In vanilla dating guys basically do have to act more reserved and ambiguous if they want to maintain a woman’s interest. In kinky dating you just nee…	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/01/26 02:16 PM
6	Is sexual enthusiasm behaviour that's for Chads only? Alright this is all obviously coming from somewhere, but the appropriate place to figure that out is a therapist’s office. In the meantime stop being a hateful misogynist and maybe people (which includes women) will be more willing to listen and help you.	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/01/26 12:43 PM
2	Is sexual enthusiasm behaviour that's for Chads only? I know I’m just clarifying my position in it	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/01/26 12:32 PM
13	Is sexual enthusiasm behaviour that's for Chads only? these men do exist but they’re a minority. Not really. Almost every n-count thread is dominated by men (and some women) who think it goes without saying that women should be shamed for sleeping around too much. And it’s almost universally accepted that men want women to act like sluts for them. I don’t think it’s mathematically possible that these aren’t the same guys. That is a big part of why women are wary of sleeping with men. Even the men they sleep with sometimes lose respect for them. No …	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/01/26 06:01 AM
14	Is sexual enthusiasm behaviour that's for Chads only? When I meet a promiscuous woman that’s a huge green flag for me. It means she has sex for fun and pleasure. And it also just makes her more relatable to me. And it makes me feel like she chooses me because she likes me, since if she didn’t she’d be off with some other guy. I think guys who hate sexually liberated women really shoot themselves in the foot, and I’ll never understand wanting a woman who’s less sexually available. Usually it just means a lower sex drive or that she’ll weaponize sex …	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/01/26 03:24 AM
29	Is sexual enthusiasm behaviour that's for Chads only? I think there are a lot of guys who crave a pornified existence where women throw themselves at them, but a lot of these same guys harbor an immature view of sex that frames women who throw themselves at men as “sluts” unworthy of respect. It’s hard to feel bad for them because of that hypocrisy. But it’s also just deeply ironic because if they could scrap that view and replace it with one that views sex as pleasurable and healthy (even for women) they’d probably get laid a lot more.	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/01/26 01:34 AM
–	The rise in single males is caused by women only wanting to date married men. I think for every woman drawn to married men there’s five married men drawn to extramarital affairs.	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/01/26 01:50 PM
2	Men can also desire a small percentage of the population. They just pretend it’s the average woman. I think that guy also happens to be a 1/2,000,000 person, not reflective of men in general. But I think that when considering committing to relationships the average man is probably about as selective as the average woman.	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/01/26 01:49 PM
5	Men can also desire a small percentage of the population. They just pretend it’s the average woman. I can’t. It takes me to TikTok in the AppStore, and then when I open it, it doesn’t go to the actual video. I hate TikTok UI	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/01/26 01:22 PM
–	Are misogynists good men or are women justified to despise them? Are misogynists good men? I don’t think so. But I agree as someone else said that it’s a continuum. And I don’t think the purpose of life is strictly to be minimally sexist, though j do think a person is less good to the extent that they’re a bigot. men who can’t get sex are 99% deserving of what women say about them. I disagree with this pretty strongly, partly because social psychologists recently tested that exact theory and found basically the opposite: Conclusions: Our findings did not supp…	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/01/26 12:32 PM
–	Are misogynists good men or are women justified to despise them? Moreover, misogyny and misandry are interlinked. Some people may be literal fe/male supremacists where the direction of the negative stereotypes is more pronounced, but you can’t really reinforce sexist stereotypes towards one gender without justifying the prescriptive gender norms that define the other.	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/01/26 11:44 AM
–	Genuine question , what do men get out of this sub or subs similar to this. I’m here because I’m interested in the psychology of sex, and have strong (anti-sexist) opinions on gender politics.	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/01/26 07:56 PM
2	The idea of men gaining more emotional intelligence is backfiring on fake feminist I think it’s relevant if both people consider it a date or not though. If she doesn’t think getting lunch is a date, then they weren’t dating.	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/01/26 04:54 PM
3	The idea of men gaining more emotional intelligence is backfiring on fake feminist She didn’t consider them dates though. And also by this logic she’s dating many men simultaneously	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/01/26 04:13 PM
1	The idea of men gaining more emotional intelligence is backfiring on fake feminist They weren’t dating (or at least she was aghast when a friend asked if they were getting together and I said “they’ve been on a couple dates”)	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/01/26 03:03 PM
4	The idea of men gaining more emotional intelligence is backfiring on fake feminist I disagree that it’s entirely a delusion. Pretty privilege is a real thing. For instance, my last roommate was a 7/10 (nice body but a beat face). She had a mason working on her basement. By going to lunch and dinner with him a few times while he was going through a break up, he offered to take thousands off the price of the house work (she did decline that to avoid feeling obligated to anything). It was an interesting experience living with her. On the one hand she’s basically aware of the pref…	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/01/26 01:31 PM
0	Question/challenge for all (there's no flair for that sorry) These are facts. https://www.clerycenter.org/trump-signs-eo-to-dismantle-ed https://www.whitehouse.gov/presidential-actions/2025/09/restoring-the-united-states-department-of-war/ Trump is doing what people voted for him to do, implementing a fascist state.	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/01/26 11:21 AM
1	Question/challenge for all (there's no flair for that sorry) We have literal jack booted gestapo raiding people’s homes door-to-door right now. We have a president talking about suspending elections, threatening to take Poland Greenland, and deposing other countries leaders with zero pretext, ramping up xenophobic rhetoric while deliberately creating humanitarian crises. We replaced the department of education with the department of war. If you don’t call that fascism it’s either because you don’t know what fascism is, or you know what it is and you suppo…	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/01/26 10:07 AM
3	The idea of men gaining more emotional intelligence is backfiring on fake feminist I loved it. I was a double major and neither of them really helped me land a job after undergrad, but I became a writer/movie producer for a little while. I think it was helpful for understanding character motivations.	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/01/26 10:00 AM
2	The idea of men gaining more emotional intelligence is backfiring on fake feminist Nice. I got a psych degree too, though my focus was in social psych research, not clinical.	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/01/26 04:09 AM
1	The idea of men gaining more emotional intelligence is backfiring on fake feminist I agree 100% with all of this. I don’t really know how you address therapy-speak though. As a general rule people should probably not use it in arguments that aren’t in front of a therapist. Maybe it should be on therapists to be a little more rigorous in defining terms for their clients. But also most people are learning these terms through Psychology Today and other low bar pop-psych publications	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/01/26 03:48 AM
1	What hoops do you have to jump through while trying to date? That’s bachelorhood. For every night like that I’ve got a story about a Colombian chula, a feminist pain slut, a lesbian* couple, or just another lonely heart. And if that’s my consolation prize in life I’m okay with it.	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/01/26 03:33 AM
9	The idea of men gaining more emotional intelligence is backfiring on fake feminist I don’t know if men are getting more emotionally intelligent. I do think more men are seeing through fake feminism though (and I agree with you that liberal feminism/equality is a good thing). Here’s how I see it. Feminism went mainstream, bringing women’s issues into the light, giving women the vocabulary to discuss systemic sexism. Radical feminism went mainstream, reorienting sexist structures to hurt men. Men get enough exposure to feminism through women that they too have the vocabulary to …	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/01/26 12:57 AM
1	Question/challenge for all (there's no flair for that sorry) Surprise surprise.	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/01/26 08:02 PM
0	Question/challenge for all (there's no flair for that sorry) It’s giving “if you think about it, the Jews are the real nazis.”	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/01/26 07:53 PM
-1	Question/challenge for all (there's no flair for that sorry) “Slurs like ‘terf’.” I’m dying. If you don’t want to be called out on your hateful bullshit stop spreading it.	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/01/26 07:47 PM
4	What hoops do you have to jump through while trying to date? *Wanna caveat that I don’t dislike “jumping through hoops,” I just like recounting stories. And also want to caveat that I’m highlighting the annoying parts, but still mostly enjoyed this person’s company. She was just vexing. I matched with a smut content creator who was explicit about what she did. Her face looked elvish and she had an unforgettable ass. Outside of smut she made money streaming video games. There is no hoop I wouldn’t have jumped through. She was barely responsive in chat, whi…	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/01/26 02:35 PM
6	Question/challenge for all (there's no flair for that sorry) This idea that people shouldn’t be allowed to deconstruct generalizations in a debate sub is idiotic. People who think “trends exist so I should be allowed to stereotype,” are idiots.	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/01/26 12:52 PM
1	Question/challenge for all (there's no flair for that sorry) I don’t think fruits have it easier than vegetables, or that women have it easier than men. That still doesn’t address my point.	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/01/26 12:50 PM
3	Question/challenge for all (there's no flair for that sorry) I care. I hate transphobes. You’re just taking someone who has a harder life than you and debating the validity of their existence in a world that’s already pretty dangerous for them.	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/01/26 12:46 PM
1	Question/challenge for all (there's no flair for that sorry) Why the scare quotes?	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/01/26 12:44 PM
4	Question/challenge for all (there's no flair for that sorry) “Exception that proves the rule,” is a thought terminating cliche that takes someone else’s counter evidence and pretends that it somehow reinforces your point.	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/01/26 12:42 PM
–	You should have to be sexually active or trying to be sexually active with the opposite sex to post or comment I guess my naive take is that by hosting those users here instead of r/ThreeXChromosomes or r/IngrownHairCel or wherever, they’ll engage with gender politics somewhere that doesn’t unilaterally validate their hate. I honestly think this sub probably does more to deradicalize people than to radicalize them Edit: I didn’t realize r/threexchromosomes was a real subreddit that was banned lol	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/01/26 03:16 AM
–	You should have to be sexually active or trying to be sexually active with the opposite sex to post or comment I think you’d be surprised how many young people are fully withdrawn from pursuing romance Edit: also I agree with the rules barring blackpill posts, mostly for the “woe is me” attitudes that they foment. Without rules the sub would probably full convert into r/psychorsike. Side note I wish more women posted here so the topics could be a little less male dominated	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/01/26 03:05 AM
–	You should have to be sexually active or trying to be sexually active with the opposite sex to post or comment I think my point stands regardless. I hate incel and femcel rhetoric, and sexist bigotry generally, but I think people should be able to contribute to the discourse since it affects them even if they aren’t sexually active.	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/01/26 02:51 AM
–	You should have to be sexually active or trying to be sexually active with the opposite sex to post or comment I agree with the overall premise, but it’s worth noting this sub gets 125,000 visitors per week. A fair amount of those are going to be incels/femcels. However, I’d disagree with OP that someone should have to be sexually active to post or comment, as this is a debate sub about gender politics, not just dating. A femcel is still affected by redpill misogyny even if they don’t want to fuck her and vice versa. An incel is still affected by radfems goading him to kill himself. While I don’t think t…	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/01/26 02:41 AM
1	Men Need to Stop Debating Women and do the Work I dont come on here to argue with women, or look for dating advice. I do well with dating. I come onto here to provide young guys dating advice that hopefully steers them away from red pill, and to debate radfems and incels who steer men toward red pill. It’s kind of a civil service.	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/01/26 01:33 AM
-1	Guys who say “I want to REALLY be desired” and “I just want consistency” often reveal that they see relationships as the cost of sex, not the goal itself. I don’t view wanting to have sex with someone as taking away from the romance. I can think of an ex-partner or two who 100% expect the men they are interested in to be fully interested in them, and who wouldn’t view requiring reciprocal sexual desire as “manipulating and using” those me for sex. What is it about sex specifically that disqualifies it from being a reasonable compatibility thing?	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/01/26 11:28 PM
3	What are the signs that a woman is genuinely desired - and not just settled for as the available option? I treat casual hookups basically the same as people I’m serious about, so it’s a little tricky. Like either way I’m going to be respectful, fun, honest, and happy to plan and pay for a date. One key difference is that if I’d consider it settling, I probably won’t introduce you to friends/family. I probably won’t respond as quickly or put as much effort into my responses, because I’m not trying to project a seriousness that isn’t there.	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/01/26 11:13 PM
2	Woman are actually pretty bad at filtering. Exactly. And I’d draw your attention to one more thing: this plays out on a societal level as a presumption that men are worse than women. It’s the flip side of the “women are wonderful” effect. Whereas women are given the benefit of the doubt, men are considered shitty until proven otherwise. This is why any relationship advice post invariably receives all the “break up with him,” “girl, run” and “you can do better” responses. It isn’t particularly gendered, because it’s a symptom of sexist bel…	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/01/26 10:32 PM
3	Asexual women need to stop attributing their qualities to all women. Yeah, I’m not sure why there’s so much skepticism that these people exist. I feel like I see it fairly often, though it’s usually not entirely overt. There are a lot of threads, for instance, where a woman in the comments is weighing in on what they want or what gives them the ick in dating, and then seven comments in they mention that they’re celibate or don’t date and it’s like then why are you pretending your opinion on dating is valid or applies to anyone else?	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/01/26 09:38 PM
1	What are the signs that a man is genuinely desired and not just settled for as the "safe guy"? I also want to be chosen for both. Being liked for your personality is flattering, but I want my partner to physically desire me too.	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/01/26 10:33 PM
39	Women Are Completely Fine With Admitting that they are a Monolith - Provided that the Generalization is not Unflattering I think if more people understood the relationship between benign sexism and hostile sexism, more people would oppose it. Put simply, the more you accept “men are like this, women are like that” as a valid worldview (because sometimes it benefits women/men to think this way) the more you’re willing to excuse harmful negative beliefs that follow the same logic.	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/01/26 08:52 PM
1	Q4M: How is it that mid guys with no game still pull 10s overseas? That’s a good counterpoint. I think for certain cultures, negative stereotypes are pervasive enough that accents are seen as unattractive. I would say as a rule accents from other English speaking countries are held in high regard (like a Canadian accent sounds funny to me in America, but generally j think women would find Canadian men automatically more interesting than fellow Americans, even if a Midwest accent is more pronounced than a Canadian one).	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/01/26 07:00 PM
10	Feminists would rather have two competing groups working towards gender equality than working together with men on the subject I agree. Philosophically I align with egalitarian men and liberal feminists. In practice feminist spaces and MRA’s both tolerate “venting” about the opposite gender until it becomes a pretty clear culture of animosity toward that gender.	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/01/26 06:34 PM
6	Woman are actually pretty bad at filtering. Edit to add: it is so fucking annoying having to argue whether sexism is sexist. Yes, your gender war bullshit is sexist. If you’re going to spout it, at least own it instead of trying to take away peopl’s ability to identify it. The misandrist example I gave is an obvious example of hate. “Good” and “bad” are social constructs, and if you ascribe them to a whole gender or believe one gender is inherently superior/inferior that’s sexism. The misogynist example I gave is also obviously sexist. It…	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/01/26 06:22 PM
6	Woman are actually pretty bad at filtering. “Obvious sexism isn’t hate because it’s true.” I don’t care if you’re sexist but please stop pretending that hating an entire gender isn’t sexism.	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/01/26 05:48 PM
65	Woman are actually pretty bad at filtering. I remember feeling that way in high school, before I’d ever had a girlfriend. I felt like women liked douchebag jocks and filtered out worthy dorks such as myself. But I was fifteen, so my conception of relationships was based almost entirely on 80s high school movies and 90s/00s sex comedies showing social outcasts win sexy women from asshole alphas who didn’t appreciate them. Then one day I got a hot girlfriend, and I felt the shift. I couldn’t believe that I was the underdog who somehow won t…	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/01/26 03:39 PM
2	Women, seriously. Why do you have such an aversion to taking responsibility and admitting fault? Honestly, I love condomless sex but I don’t push for it. The past few times I’ve had it, my partner will say she wants condoms and we have sex with them a few times, and then comes a time where w’regrinding without condoms and she slips it in, and I check “are you sure? I thought you said condoms only” and she’s like “yeah whatever.” I sort of wonder how common this experience is. Bite: these are women who are on birth control, so the concern is just STIs, which I test for.	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/01/26 10:22 PM
3	Do you think you can actually Empathize and understand the points of men I think the correct action is to provide a fair take regardless of whether it’s a man or woman you’re debating. It matters more to misandrists when women call them on their bullshit and it matters more to misogynists when men call them other bullshit. When people see that men and women can and do empathize it makes sexist arguments look pigheaded and wrong.	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/01/26 02:45 PM
15	Women, seriously. Why do you have such an aversion to taking responsibility and admitting fault? Even if we could measure accountability, politicians are the last people I want representing my gender.	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/01/26 01:06 PM
11	Do you think you can actually Empathize and understand the points of men There are a bunch of examples in these comments of OP doing exactly what you describe, replying to women who empathize with “oh yeah?! But you’ll never feel it the way I feel it, huh?!” I agree that sucks and I get why some women say, “fuck it. And fuck men too.” But to your question of what do men want (or what’s a reasonable expectation anyway)? I think just try to keep being fair minded. Just like you get on here and see men demanding more than empathy, guys read posts like this and only see …	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/01/26 01:01 PM
3	Women shouldn't in most cases be allowed to accuse men of being lazy in the dating climate. Yeah I think it’s a genuinely good point. Edit to add: I think the same can be said of guys criticizing women for being too picky. “If the opinion was voiced by a woman, would the opinion hold water?” would be a good way to judge if the guy is being fair or not.	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/01/26 06:11 AM
4	Women shouldn't in most cases be allowed to accuse men of being lazy in the dating climate. You googled “hypocrisy vs. double standard” because you obviously don’t know the difference. If two people have an equal obligation, it’s just a standard, not a double standard. If someone criticizes a higher standard that they aren’t held to, they are a hypocrite, from the Greek, “hypo-” below “crite” criticism.	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/01/26 05:57 AM
0	Women shouldn't in most cases be allowed to accuse men of being lazy in the dating climate. That’s stupid. It isn’t a “double standard” if the person criticizing is held to the same standard. A double standard is holding someone to a standard that you don’t hold others (including yourself) to.	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/01/26 05:27 AM
4	Women shouldn't in most cases be allowed to accuse men of being lazy in the dating climate. Pointing out that a hypocrite is enforcing a double standard is hardly a “fallacy.” Edit: I agree with your initial point that replacing the woman complaining with a hypothetical man is a good gauge for whether a man is lazy in dating.	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/01/26 05:06 AM
0	Gen Z men shouldn't take dating advice from older generations Funny I just opened this app and it looks like you just responded. Regarding the black-and-whiteness of sex positivity/negativity, I think there are a couple things going on. First, when you’re in a group and something sexually “charged” comes up, a consensus of positivity or negativity quickly forms. In r/entertainment there’ve been posts about an old actor who solicited a prostitute. Most of these threads have people defending him, pointing out that if they’re both adults and she’s consenting …	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/01/26 04:47 AM
11	The "you are either attracted to them or not" people (mainly women) ignore one of the most basic things about attraction - it can be manufactured, learned and acquired. Every guy should know this by virtue of having put his foot in his mouth at least once. You can pretty instantly kill attraction by saying or doing the wrong thing. You can also build attraction by matching on things like humor, values, and interests. We call it “compatibility” but that’s too sterile a word for the feeling of meeting someone who just “gets you” and the way that attraction builds when everything just feels right.	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/01/26 05:49 AM
0	The "you are either attracted to them or not" people (mainly women) ignore one of the most basic things about attraction - it can be manufactured, learned and acquired. Uh huh…	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/01/26 05:40 AM
7	Gen Z men shouldn't take dating advice from older generations A big difference is how much more socializing and bar hopping millennials did. Also, sex negativity is a lot more prominent these days. It sort of feels like it’s in vogue for women to view relationships as trite and beneath them, which I think does impact dating.	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/01/26 04:42 AM
1	It is not necessary to use intellectualism to reject people you find repulsive. I would marry a cam girl, porn star, exotic dancer, or sex educator. I wouldn’t marry an active escort because, while I’m okay with us being open, I’d like encounters to be more prenegotiated. I would have no problem marrying a former escort. I’m not concerned that a woman’s sexual history will trump the sex we have. I think I’m pretty good. I’ve slept with strippers and cam girls for free, of their own volition. Also, the fact that she’s with me is enough proof that she wants to be with me, and…	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/01/26 02:04 AM
1	It is not necessary to use intellectualism to reject people you find repulsive. Do you achieve an erection when watching porn, even though those pornstars are obviously getting railed by other guys and you are actively watching it?	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/01/26 01:42 AM
1	Are the women who offer Blue pill advice on here just outliers or are they modifying their message to suit their audience? Blue pill is sex positive in that it endorses the free expression of gender identity, sexual orientation, and body positivity. None of those are red pill concepts. Women’s sexual liberation is also a progressive liberal idea. The people downvoting me for saying slut shaming is inherently sexist are red pill, not blue pill. Tradcons and radfems are both sex negative, but as previously mentioned, radfems are pink pill because they mirror redpill beliefs. Also, generally speaking red pill is very h…	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/01/26 07:48 PM
1	Are the women who offer Blue pill advice on here just outliers or are they modifying their message to suit their audience? Tradcons are red pill. Radfems are pink pill. They endorse all the same sex negative and gender essentialist beliefs as red pill, so blue pill isn’t a fitting term.	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/01/26 07:29 PM
–	It is not necessary to use intellectualism to reject people you find repulsive. The point I’m trying to make is that “preferences” aren’t the great equalizer that people make them out to be. They can be an expression of prejudice, and it’s easy for people with those biases to just say “what? It’s my preference.”	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/01/26 06:04 PM
1	Are the women who offer Blue pill advice on here just outliers or are they modifying their message to suit their audience? I agree. And you also have red pill grifters who sort of formalize their belief structures through podcasts and self help books. Blue pill doesn’t really have that, which is part of the reason that people don’t think of a particular ideology for “Blue Pill.”	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/01/26 05:05 PM
1	It is not necessary to use intellectualism to reject people you find repulsive. I don’t believe there’s one true love or twin flames or anything like that, but wish you luck with him.	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/01/26 04:23 PM
1	It is not necessary to use intellectualism to reject people you find repulsive. Are you with him now?	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/01/26 04:17 PM
2	It is not necessary to use intellectualism to reject people you find repulsive. P.s. yeah about that guy, I mean I was like 10 or 11 when we met, and I don’t think he was fully into white supremacy as like an ideology back then. Watching him morph into that informed a lot of my beliefs about racism and bigotry generally. He was a piece of shit though. I see he has a kid now and worry he’ll raise another wannabe hitler.	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/01/26 03:54 PM
1	It is not necessary to use intellectualism to reject people you find repulsive. I respectfully disagree. If that’s how you define love for yourself, that’s fine. But you can’t define love for other people, and there’s not a reason that they should have to limit the way they express love and desire to meet standards they don’t agree with.	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/01/26 03:48 PM
1	It is not necessary to use intellectualism to reject people you find repulsive. Heartbreak is the cost of love babe, and that’s the fuckin truth. I think it’s worth it (and I think the artists and poets of the world for centuries would agree).	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/01/26 03:39 PM
2	It is not necessary to use intellectualism to reject people you find repulsive. ‘Tis better to have loved and lost. The point of life is not to prevent harm at the cost of love. It’s better to try for love and get your heart broken	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/01/26 03:27 PM
2	It is not necessary to use intellectualism to reject people you find repulsive. I’m generally skeptical of arguments that use “brain chemicals” or “neural pathways.” I’m not a psychologist but I’ve performed research and been published in a peer reviewed journal, so I’m familiar with how it goes. A lot of times the issue isn’t the research but how it gets extrapolated in pop psychology. And then of course researchers can have their own biases and write papers to support them. At any rate, I don’t think any actual scientist or psychologist would make the argument that break …	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/01/26 03:11 PM
2	It is not necessary to use intellectualism to reject people you find repulsive. The question isn’t about whether women are sexist for imbuing promiscuous men with more value, it’s about whether it’s sexist for men to reduce women’s value based on their promiscuity. Yes. A double standard about sexual behavior based on a person’s sex is sexist. If we can’t agree on that as definitively sexist, then there’s no point in talking about it.	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/01/26 02:54 PM
2	It is not necessary to use intellectualism to reject people you find repulsive. I disagree. These same arguments are used against no-fault divorce. Sex isn’t inherently unhealthy, that’s just puritan bullshit and the science behind it is similar to the “science” that was behind gay conversion therapy: it’s ideologically motivated research to prop up conservatism.	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/01/26 02:51 PM
1	It is not necessary to use intellectualism to reject people you find repulsive. It is a sexism issue though. The argument is too involved for this comment section, so I’ll try to right a detailed post explaining why. The dumbed down version is that patriarchy is predicated on the idea that sex is inherently harmful to women, and sex negativity justifies systemic sexism.	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/01/26 02:44 PM
3	It is not necessary to use intellectualism to reject people you find repulsive. It’s not a lie. Most sexist beliefs are offshoots of the idea that sex intrinsically benefits men and harms women. That’s the underlying premise for slut shaming promiscuous women, and it’s the underlying premise for upholding a patriarchal society structured around infantilizing women at the expense of their rights and equal treatment.	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/01/26 02:41 PM
1	It is not necessary to use intellectualism to reject people you find repulsive. Confused what “cult” you’re talking about.	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/01/26 02:26 PM
1	It is not necessary to use intellectualism to reject people you find repulsive. I think my distinction about having an attraction/aversion to a demographic is a good one. It’s not biased to be attracted to something you weren’t exposed exposed to during sexual development, something you have a preference for. It’s biased to not date someone because of their demographic (which is slightly different than just not being aroused by that thing about them).	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/01/26 02:22 PM
1	It is not necessary to use intellectualism to reject people you find repulsive. there are plenty of sex positive misogynistic/misandrists. Sounds like “It’s actually progressives who stare racist!!!!!” Yeah fuckin right. Not if we’re comparing the other side of the aisle. Edit to add: y’know who’s sex negative? Feminazis and actual nazis. you know who isn’t sex negative? Normal men and women who fuck each other. Which of those “sides” do you think is more sexist?	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/01/26 02:07 PM
1	It is not necessary to use intellectualism to reject people you find repulsive. Alright well the morally relevant concept is how you value people. Devaluing people based on a sexist double standard is sexist, whether you believe that people’s value is intrinsic or not. Edit: I highly disagree that people don’t have intrinsic value, but that’s a whole other can of worms and beside the point.	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/01/26 01:55 PM
1	It is not necessary to use intellectualism to reject people you find repulsive. I addressed that already. Sex negativity isn’t itself sexist, but it’s bigotry adjacent. That’s why it’s always the most misogynistic men and misandrist women spewing it.	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/01/26 01:52 PM
1	It is not necessary to use intellectualism to reject people you find repulsive. That doesn’t increase his intrinsic value as a human being, and a woman exploring her sexuality doesn’t decrease her’s. So yes, this sex-based double standard about sexual behavior is sexist. It’s basically what the term “sexism” means as coined to describe.	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/01/26 01:47 PM
3	It is not necessary to use intellectualism to reject people you find repulsive. This is a deflection. The sexist part is believing that men and women’s value is inversely affected by sex. It’s a fact about themselves, not a physical quality that their body is responding to physically. A better analogue would be women preferring men who make much more money than them, which I would consider classist and sexist.	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/01/26 01:28 PM
–	It is not necessary to use intellectualism to reject people you find repulsive. I think categorically excluding people based on race does show racism. For instance, when I was in middle school I had a poor friend who was racist. He claimed to have family in the kkk. They’d committed hate crimes, and after his uncle was murdered by a black man, he dedicated himself to the alt right pipeline. He flew a confederate flag from his truck in high school. He swore up and down that Tyra Banks (who’d just been voted the prettiest supermodel in the world) was “hideous. He would shout …	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/01/26 01:11 PM
1	It is not necessary to use intellectualism to reject people you find repulsive. Clarifying my position. There’s “hate” as an emotion and then there’s “hate” in the sense of internalized biases. It’s possible to not be enraged by a woman’s promiscuity but still hold them to a double standard: when she has sex it lowers her value and when men have sex it raises their value. That is “hateful” in the internalized “bias” sense. It’s sexist. The exception is thinking that everyone (men included) who has sex is bad. But I also consider puritan anti-sex mindsets hateful in their ow…	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/01/26 12:59 PM
1	It is not necessary to use intellectualism to reject people you find repulsive. would you call it sexist if a man didn’t hate them but still didn’t want to be with a promiscuous woman? Let’s clarify between hate as an emotion and “hate” in the sense of internalized biases. I think it’s possible to not be enraged by a woman’s promiscuity, but still hypocritically think that when she has sex it lowers her value and when men have sex it raises their value. That internalized belief is hateful (in the internalized “bias” sense) and sexist. The exception would be thinking that ev…	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/01/26 12:50 PM
0	It is not necessary to use intellectualism to reject people you find repulsive. There’s not a non-sexist reason to hate women for sleeping with men. They don’t want to admit that they’re sexist, so they convince themselves that there’s a logical reason for the double standard. It’s about protecting their ego.	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/01/26 12:37 PM
2	Are the women who offer Blue pill advice on here just outliers or are they modifying their message to suit their audience? I’m blue pill. I date around, don’t care about marriage, and if the woman wants to pay for the date I don’t take offense. Red pill is obsessed with marriage and birth rates, codifying dating rules based on gender norms, and playing up the power differentials in dating.	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/01/26 11:43 AM
-1	Are the women who offer Blue pill advice on here just outliers or are they modifying their message to suit their audience? That’s not what blue pill is. As in real politics, blue pill is the counter to the red pill narrative. Red pill with regard to gender politics is traditionalism and heteronormativity (which is a lot more mainstream). Blue pill is just calling out red pill on sexism and cultish adherence to gender norms	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/01/26 03:58 AM
0	Most people's dating advice to men is useless, ESPECIALLY advice given by women I’m criticizing you because you’re being insane and unfair, and you know it. I don’t care if that’s moral grandstanding. I give a fuck about seeing things as they are, and part of that is acknowledging that everyone deserves to be treated fairly. Part of that is not being racist or sexist or homophobic.	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/01/26 03:17 AM
3	Are the women who offer Blue pill advice on here just outliers or are they modifying their message to suit their audience? Yeah. And for what it’s worth I feel the same thing happens with MRA’s. Just try to stay cool and rest on the belief that neither men nor women deserve to be treated unfairly based on their gender.	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/01/26 03:04 AM
0	Most people's dating advice to men is useless, ESPECIALLY advice given by women This is literally delusional. I refuse to believe that you’ve interacted with so few women that you can’t think of one who would be insulted at how unfair and unreasonable that characterization is. Get off social media until you’ve had some time to think about what you’re looking at and who is telling you these things.	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/01/26 02:54 AM
2	Are the women who offer Blue pill advice on here just outliers or are they modifying their message to suit their audience? This is just my take on the pills, but here’s my perspective. Red pill = reactionary traditionalism. She girl want he man because baby crazy. Pink pill = red pill for girls. What if we reinforce the patriarchy in a way that benefits women? Blue pill = liberal egalitarianism. Differences in gender expression aren’t inherently good/bad and people shouldn’t be forced to conform to them. Pro LGBTQ+, pro sex worker rights. Black pill = incel/femcel. It’s all a genetic lottery and you’re either born r…	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/01/26 02:32 AM
-2	Are the women who offer Blue pill advice on here just outliers or are they modifying their message to suit their audience? I think most people endorse some degree of sexist beliefs. I would only consider egalitarians and liberal feminists actual blue pill.	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/01/26 02:24 AM
6	Are the women who offer Blue pill advice on here just outliers or are they modifying their message to suit their audience? The term in this subreddit is “pink pill” (aka red pill for women). When girl boss feminism loops back around to endorsing all the same evopsych gender essentialist beliefs as red pill	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/01/26 02:08 AM
1	the "nice guy" paradox: why rejecting "chivalrous" safety offers is a safety move in itself Women don’t like “nice guys” because they don’t like sycophants. She registers that the “nice guy” is treating her like a superior being, but knows that the other shoe will drop if she fails to meet his (sexual) expectations. Aversion to chivalry is a defense mechanism. Edit to add: studies show that both men and women want someone who’s slightly avoidant. Probably because people who are slightly avoidant are slightly out of their league (hypergamy). So there’s also the side of it that a guy dro…	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/01/26 01:53 AM
5	Most people's dating advice to men is useless, ESPECIALLY advice given by women Sure, but when we’re talking about whether being a nice/good/stable person, I think that’s a net positive toward how attractive a person looks to the opposite sex. I think a lot of guys get hung up on just being nice and respectful but they don’t know how to sexually entice women. Even if you’re nice and respectful you need to be able to create sexual/romantic interest.	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/01/26 06:36 PM
-1	Most people's dating advice to men is useless, ESPECIALLY advice given by women That’s not necessarily true. There are women who love men.	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/01/26 05:18 PM
5	Most people's dating advice to men is useless, ESPECIALLY advice given by women No, but humor makes women more attractive to me generally. If I meet a woman in my league who’s funny I feel instantly smitten. I would even give a slightly uglier woman a chance if she was funny and we got along well enough.	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/01/26 04:51 PM
1	Most people's dating advice to men is useless, ESPECIALLY advice given by women I disagree that it’s not controllable. I have standards that include values.	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/01/26 04:46 PM
8	Most people's dating advice to men is useless, ESPECIALLY advice given by women Disbelieving that she is correct about what she says she wants is more of an assumption.	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/01/26 03:49 PM
4	Are fully straight women who don't watch lesbian porn minority? I think that’s a huge part of it. I think a lot of men have an aversion to male sexuality that feels borderline performative.	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/01/26 02:40 PM
1	Are fully straight women who don't watch lesbian porn minority? Seems like you have a weird aversion to porn	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/01/26 02:30 PM
2	Are fully straight women who don't watch lesbian porn minority? I think that logic extends to most people’s fantasies. If you’re having sensual partnered vanilla sex you might look up more hard sex or random encounter porn. If you’re fucking lots of strangers you might look up to”sensual lovers romantic.” It’s the non-familiarity that makes it exciting.	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/01/26 02:22 PM
26	Most people's dating advice to men is useless, ESPECIALLY advice given by women I think it’s stupid to disbelieve women when they say they want “kind, gentle, respectful” men. At least that woman (and women like her) are into that. It’s like when I say I want a funny girl. Some women will say men don’t like women with a strong voice, a lot of personality, or who are too outspoken. Okay, I’m sure some guys don’t. But that’s what I want and a woman like that would be wasted on a guy who can’t appreciate it. Same goes for the kind guy. Note: what is meant by kind/nice/ is up f…	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/01/26 02:05 PM
1	Men, would you say that you do tend to struggle in the dating scene or with getting attention? I go on dates every week and sleep with a new woman about once a month. It’s really a question of what is meant by “struggle.” I (mid 30s) know that I do well compared to other guys, but dating is still very much a slog. I understand that a lot of the guys whining sound like entitled little pissants, but I just want to share a bit of my experience. I was absolutely destroyed when the love of my life left me. I was still very much in love with her, but for the last couple years should couldn’t st…	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/01/26 01:01 AM
3	Why are women like this? Good on you for thinking for yourself.	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/01/26 11:35 PM
0	Can't a guy only need to know a few women he'll ever date will be no good to justify being initially skeptical of every one that he's ever interested in? Yes. I think it’s ironic that you’re still nakedly doing the thing that I’m pointing out; responding to “it’s not the hard to not project your negative experiences with individuals into a whole gender” with “we don’t owe you sex.” No, you don’t. But you owe everyone the decency to not be sexist. It’s a standard that you hold men to, and women are just as capable of upholding that standard. So I will keep downvoting you and calling you out for being sexist.	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/01/26 10:41 PM
0	Can't a guy only need to know a few women he'll ever date will be no good to justify being initially skeptical of every one that he's ever interested in? I don’t think we agree at all. I see you equivocating “abstaining from sex” to “projecting your negative experiences with some men onto men.” That equivocation strikes me as bad faith and using it as a pretext for prejudging people based on their sex is quite literally sexist.	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/01/26 09:32 PM
1	Why can't you accept reality? I bet $100 they’re a femcel.	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/01/26 07:32 PM
0	Can't a guy only need to know a few women he'll ever date will be no good to justify being initially skeptical of every one that he's ever interested in? “Avoiding” people based on their demographics is “phobic” in that is an aversion. It obviously is hate, and it’s still shitty and sexist. Not everyone who experiences assault goes on to hate the gender of their assailant or use the experience to justify their own sexism.	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/01/26 07:19 PM
0	Can't a guy only need to know a few women he'll ever date will be no good to justify being initially skeptical of every one that he's ever interested in? Why are you pretending that this is about who you have sex with? This is about using negative experiences as a pretext to hate groups based on their demographics. Do you think that’s wrong or not?	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/01/26 07:01 PM
3	You shouldn’t be labelled as simp for wanting to spoil your partner and by showing a lot of affection towards them It seriously gets so frustrating when people who are supposedly progressive conveniently believe bigotry doesn’t count when they do it.	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/01/26 04:36 PM
5	You shouldn’t be labelled as simp for wanting to spoil your partner and by showing a lot of affection towards them How is that different than female centered men? Do they harm all men by uplifting women?	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/01/26 04:11 PM
1	Can't a guy only need to know a few women he'll ever date will be no good to justify being initially skeptical of every one that he's ever interested in? That isn’t at all what I said. You’re arguing that it’s okay to project bad experiences with men into all men. That is textbook discrimination.	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/01/26 04:09 PM
1	You shouldn’t be labelled as simp for wanting to spoil your partner and by showing a lot of affection towards them Why?	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/01/26 03:58 PM
–	Can't a guy only need to know a few women he'll ever date will be no good to justify being initially skeptical of every one that he's ever interested in? “My prejudices don’t matter,” - every bigot ever. I don’t care if you’re sexist, just stop pretending it doesn’t count as sexism. If your logic is that it s okay for you to be prejudicial and discriminate based on sex, you are a sexist.	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/01/26 03:53 PM
1	Men would have a much better time dating if they believed that they were actually the prize. This content was anonymized and mass deleted with Redact	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/01/26 03:10 PM
3	You shouldn’t be labelled as simp for wanting to spoil your partner and by showing a lot of affection towards them Agreed. “Simp” and “pick me” are mostly used by sexists to mean “gender traitor.” The vast majority of people get into relationships and treat their partners with affection and respect that losers would call “simping” or “pick me” behavior.	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/01/26 03:04 PM
3	How do/did you navigate being insecure in a relationship? I know he’s lying. He just wants his dick wet or he has a fetish and I’m nothing more than an object. I think you need to attack this belief within yourself. That isn’t how love works, IMO. Desire isn’t entirely separate and distinct from romance and love. I’d agree that sex and love can be different, but even as a slutty man I still catch feelings if I regularly sleep with someone. It’s like saying “she’s only dating me because she wants free dinner.” Can that happen? Sure. But anyone coming ba…	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/01/26 10:45 AM
1	Project AVA Is A Sign That Things Are Getting Worse In Dating I think people are overstating how detrimental this will be. It’s a bit, “rock and roll will cause teenagers to like sex and drugs.” People can watch porn, gory movies, listen to death metal, etc. and all this entertainment doesn’t really fuck people up. Or at least I prefer to live in a world where people can entertain themselves however they like and still be expected to act decent.	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/01/26 10:26 AM
–	Can't a guy only need to know a few women he'll ever date will be no good to justify being initially skeptical of every one that he's ever interested in? I reject anyone using it as a defense of prejudice or treating people different. I’ve been robbed at gun point by a black dude. I don’t cross the street when I see black people, and when people say racist shit I call them on it. Cause being victimized isn’t an excuse to be an asshole to that group forever. Everyone in their life has people who were bad to them and they can internalize it as hate toward a group or not.	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/01/26 10:09 AM
–	Can't a guy only need to know a few women he'll ever date will be no good to justify being initially skeptical of every one that he's ever interested in? Yeah. It’s still sexist as fuck to say “some people are crazy, therefore all women/men are crazy and I should treat them like BPD rapists until proven otherwise.” The sexist part is accepting the premise that it’s okay to discriminate instead of judging people on an individual basis.	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/01/26 04:57 AM
7	What parts of hypergamy do you disagree with? /s?	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/01/26 01:59 AM
2	Are we often mistaking selfishness for sexism in women and men? It just gets muddy because some people use bluepill to mean progressive/feminist, but there are a lot of radical feminist gender essentialists. But that’s horseshoe theory (e.g. TERFs are TERFs because they think they think the essential differences between men and women aren’t something you can transition out of). A normal left-leaning person doesn’t believe men and women are different in an essential level or that they should be treated as such.	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/01/26 01:48 AM
11	What parts of hypergamy do you disagree with? I always think “look at celebrities” arguments are so stupid. Of course Bradley Cooper can date anyone he wants. But so can Margot Robbie and Margaret Qualey. Maybe 1 in 100,000 get that experience. Maybe less. We aren’t in the same ballpark, state, country, or time zone as them so it’s sort of beside the point of what the 99.9999% of us experience.	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/01/26 12:56 AM
4	What was your longest dry streak? “It wasn’t no thang” is just a fun, informal way of saying “it wasn’t a concern.”	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/01/26 09:22 PM
1	Can't a guy only need to know a few women he'll ever date will be no good to justify being initially skeptical of every one that he's ever interested in? About a year ago, defending a woman’s right to assume all men are rapists was a big misandrist talking point. #notallmen was a sarcastic meme suggesting any man who took offense was “part of the problem” because they were deflecting, and they’d use any instance of men taking offense as an opportunity to spread cherry picked statistics to prove men are sexual predators. Note: I appreciate that you don’t think this way. Just providing context for why you’re seeing the surprising amount of people d…	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/01/26 08:19 PM
23	Can't a guy only need to know a few women he'll ever date will be no good to justify being initially skeptical of every one that he's ever interested in? There’s a difference between being judicious and being prejudiced (I know judicious isn’t the perfect word, but you get what I mean). “She said something my BPD ex said, which gives me pause” = judicious. “Women are like my BPD ex” = prejudiced.	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/01/26 06:31 PM
3	Are we often mistaking selfishness for sexism in women and men? I had a similar thing with my ex anyway. It felt like she took my passion as a threat to our relationship. It’s made me a little hypersensitive to controlling types.	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/01/26 06:17 PM
5	Are we often mistaking selfishness for sexism in women and men? Generally yes. It’s okay to conform to gender roles, but it’s sexist to impose gender norms on other people. For instance, you say people don’t want to be around women who aren’t nurturing. What about punk chicks? I love em. I think they have a place in society even if they aren’t giving nurturing mother vibes. I think the same thing goes for basically everyone. It was wrong of people to make fun of male nurses when they first became a thing and it’d be wrong to make fun of female engineers or c…	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/01/26 05:46 PM
4	Are we often mistaking selfishness for sexism in women and men? This is just a chicken or the egg argument. There are cultures that are more sexist and ones that are less sexist. The idea that people should embrace sexist gender roles because society is sexist so complying will benefit them is just a prisoners fallacy. It’s totally possible to not be sexist. The people who do embrace those sexist gender roles just come off like the selfish, sexist manosphere and girlboss grifters OP describes in their post.	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/01/26 05:27 PM
13	Are we often mistaking selfishness for sexism in women and men? I think it’s also super evident that the selfishness is sexist when we’re talking about hypothetical men and women. “A good wife should always cook for her man before she takes a bite herself.” “A man should always be willing to drive his princess everywhere.” Yes, it’s selfish. But it’s also exploiting social constructs. It genders behaviors that are “nice” and altruistic into expectations that get taken for granted.	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/01/26 05:23 PM
9	Are we often mistaking selfishness for sexism in women and men? People can be selfish, but forcing particular expectations on someone because of their sex is sexist. A lot of times the selfish behavior that you’re describing are expectations that we as a society believe and uphold. I.e. “women are supposed to be nurturing emotional caretakers,” “men are supposed to pay because they’re responsible.”	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/01/26 03:14 PM
–	Both women and men lie in studies about the number of their sexual partners. (but not in a way some may like here.) Yes. I agree with your post (I don’t view respondent reliability as a blue or red pill issue. Response bias is a thing, and I agree with your explanation for why it’s ambivalent expressed between men and women. I think the effect you’re seeing is evidence of commonplace sexism acting as a social pressures causing to have more/fewer partners). I think u/tbutlah’s guesstimates sound about right for me and my friends, although I have friends who had fewer partners because they coupled up young. I t…	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/01/26 09:53 PM
–	Both women and men lie in studies about the number of their sexual partners. (but not in a way some may like here.) I have had a similar experience, but I think you don’t realize how many conservative guys there are who basically lock down the first or second woman they can. It becomes more evident when you see the other at conservative guys talk about sex. Not all conservatives, but definitely a lot of dudes with very traditional worldviews in this sub who would think a woman is a “whore” for being with ten guys.	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/01/26 09:30 PM
3	The equality women want is actually largely about innate inequality "made right". I think there’s a lot of confusion about what “equality” means. There’s equality in the enlightenment sense that “all people are created equal under god” (or the universe, or whatever). The point of this is that Ii one is inherently superior or inferior to anyone else, regardless of their physical differences. It does NOT mean that people are identical, it means that they shouldn’t have to be to be treated with the same basic respect and rights. Then there’s “equality” in the sense of outcomes b…	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/01/26 08:58 PM
11	Men need to have a certain amount of casual sex before their thirst and desire for it is satiated long term. This amount is unique to each man and he needs to be honest with himself about it. Until you've been there done that, you won't experience the true platonic human side of women I largely agree. I’m a high drive man and still need regular sex, be it casual or serious. So casual and regular sex hasn’t permanently satiated that thirst in me. But I do agree with OP that access to it helped me see women as full people. But I also agree that it’s not a prerequisite to view women this way (just something that helped me take women off a pedestal when I was younger). Maybe the caveat is that being seen as a full person helps you see them as equals, and being seen as a sexual en…	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/01/26 05:46 PM
–	"The bar is in hell"... yeah for attractive men I think in this case she’s just perennially stuck in a “self improvement” phase similar to red pill guys. Like I’m sure next month it will be “I’m going to read a book every week” and then the following it will be “I’m cutting toxic people out from now on,” etc. etc. She was also super into therapy, which can be a red flag. Minor-therapy generally but there’s a type who make it their whole personality and use it to validate every selfish thought.	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/01/26 03:53 PM
–	"The bar is in hell"... yeah for attractive men I drove an hour to buy a woman dinner because she was legitimately food insecure. I didn’t want sex or anything (not that I wouldn’t have had it), I just felt bad for her. I was also bored, and I have the means. It felt like a nice thing to do, and there’s the off chance we really vibe and she’s just going through a hard time. When I arrived she was wearing pajamas. She’d put on a lot of weight since her pictures, which happens for about 20% of the dates I go on. Also she didn’t have a phone, an…	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/01/26 03:23 PM
12	Men are very woman centered and it's destructive to them. There’s a strong anti-romantic, anti-sex trend right now that’s driving gender wars propaganda, IMO. People don’t realize it isn’t strictly “men/women bad” content. It starts with “never suffer an insult without cutting someone out of your life,” r/im14andthisisdeep style memes	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/01/26 01:01 PM
1	No way most men are friends with a rapist lol ok	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/01/26 07:05 PM
1	No way most men are friends with a rapist In literally every single one, they discuss heterosex as an intrinsic assault on femininity. Literally every single one. “Feminists” aren’t interested equality. It’s just an online hate movement.	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/01/26 05:36 PM
0	No way most men are friends with a rapist I am 100% serious. Point me to the feminism subreddit that doesn’t vilify male sexuality, or that would defend a nuanced take about male sexuality.	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/01/26 04:46 PM
0	No way most men are friends with a rapist Unfortunately, this is the mainstream attitude in all feminism subs. I’ve been told many times in this sub and others by feminists. I disagree with it because I’m a liberal feminist, but feminism subs are echo chambers which favor exclusionary feminism. The effect is that, while most feminists might disagree with the conclusion that all hetero and marital sex is rape, most discuss male sexual interest as intrinsically violating. I.e. all sexualization is objectification. This also explains when …	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/01/26 04:35 PM
1	No way most men are friends with a rapist They wouldn’t. If they’re mistaken, then they’ve violated my consent. If they’re not mistaken, then they’ve woken me to a phenomenal blowjob.	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/01/26 04:28 PM
1	No way most men are friends with a rapist I think it’s relevant to the question, “where is that premise (that women are attracted to predators and find shy guys unattractive) even coming from?” IMO it’s seeping in from the radfem premise that all male sexual attention is predatory. So people see that guys who display more sexual attention receive more sexual attention and think “wait, what?! I thought that made them a predator?!” It’s not something you or I believe in, but that’s why people who view sex as a battle between men and women…	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/01/26 04:25 PM
1	No way most men are friends with a rapist By being horny.	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/01/26 04:20 PM
2	No way most men are friends with a rapist Yes. I was asleep when my ex gave me blowjobs, and I wouldn’t consider that assault. Therefore sleep isn’t the deciding factor.	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/01/26 04:14 PM
6	No way most men are friends with a rapist If the same thing that happens to me happened to her, and you agree that what happened to me wasn’t rape, then how do you know that it was different for her?	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/01/26 01:50 PM
-1	No way most men are friends with a rapist There is no such thing as victimless rape. Any attempt to project victimhood on someone who didn’t feel victimized is disingenuous, bad faith bullshit. I’ve been woken up by blowjobs and other sexy things. I would not say my consent was violated, because I welcomed them. It’s actually an awesome thing to wake up to.	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/01/26 01:12 PM
1	No way most men are friends with a rapist The radical feminist position that all heterosexual and marital sex is rape is a real argument. “Rape Redefined” argues that consent isn’t an internal emotional state but an objective circumstance of power dynamics, and it argues that what we think of as “consent” is often manufactured through coercive social pressure and therefore not valid. If you look up the article it’s well written, but the problem is it’s intellectually laundering a sick and sexist idea that all male heterosex is a consent…	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/01/26 01:05 PM
3	No way most men are friends with a rapist That’s ridiculous. I disagree with any definition of rape that includes instances where both adults enjoy the experience and would not claim that they were raped.	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/01/26 12:47 PM
1	How often do you have to communicate what you want during sex? I want to clarify that I don’t think it’s the lack of communication is inherent to women. The other half of the messaging telling men that they should just know is telling women that they shouldn’t ask. I think as far as the “PiV is ‘real’ sex and everything else is just foreplay” mainstream conception of sex, the measures that could properly counter it get hamstringed. Sex education that discusses pleasure, female centered porn, and sex positive depictions of sex get fought tooth and nail by co…	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/01/26 01:34 AM
0	Sexism and Sexual success study 2: The Two Towers Update: I think I have my theory. The researchers did not meet their hypothesis (that low dating activity and prospects would correlate with higher hostile sexism), and I think it’s commendable that they published despite finding the opposite of what they expected. But their “Conclusion” is kind of a shrug. They don’t know what to make of it, if I’m reading that correctly. In the article, they control for conservatism because conservatives are all sexists. But let’s take a fine tooth comb to thi…	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/01/26 01:11 AM
–	Sexism and Sexual success study 2: The Two Towers What questions are they using to define hostile and benevolent sexism? (I’m assuming whatever standard’s out there now has high validity, but I think seeing the actual measures would be very helpful in understanding why that might be).	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/01/26 12:22 AM
2	Placing a disproportional amount of self worth into the superficial such as Botox, Male Pattern Baldness interventions and even Cosmetics; is detrimental. Change this view. My only real issue with this take is that people already have the tendency to vilify cosmetics in a way that seems disproportionate. It shouldn’t really matter if a woman wants a but lift or a man gets gastric bypass. Like, those people should be allowed to take measures to look however they want, juju at like the rest of us. I don’t really see the harm behind “vanity” on its own, but we have it sort of codified as a “sin,” so I think the cultural resistance to it is outsized.	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/01/26 11:47 PM
1	How often do you have to communicate what you want during sex? That’s a fair question. Yes, I think the way society centers PiV as the main sex act while neglecting more female focused sex acts is purely a communication issue. Society isn’t the one having sex in these contexts. Men and women are, and they can resolve this issue through communication, plain and simple. I don’t think those heteronormative assumptions have zero impact on women or men’s sex lives. I just think, “men are selfish narcissistic lovers” is a stupid and sexist takeaway. My explanatio…	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/01/26 11:19 PM
2	How often do you have to communicate what you want during sex? Your orgasm is your responsibility. It’s not surprising that you can’t take accountability for your own sexual pleasure when your hateful ideology prevents you from examining why these differences exist in men and women but presupposes some sexist paradigm where one gender has all the negative traits. Pretty convenient that it reinforces the idea that men are responsible for everything all the time and women can’t be expected to shoulder any responsibility, reinforcing the patriarchal conditioni…	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/01/26 10:02 PM
3	How often do you have to communicate what you want during sex? I think it’s because most Americans base their understanding of sex on the handful (4-8 people) of partners they have sex with in the entire lives, and a side effect of sexual repression is not talking about sex so people basically learn how to have sex via watching porn (which is like learning how to cook by watching a few videos of the same recipes all the time), and because of the reasons I mentioned in my initial response: people inherit a heteronormative script that tells them men are the a…	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/01/26 11:31 AM
1	What do some men mean when they say 'woman have life on easy mode?' That’s only true for radical feminists. Regular women aren’t going around intellectualizing why it’s they need to make bad faith arguments in support of gender norms in order to beat men at gender roles.	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/01/26 11:19 AM
1	What do some men mean when they say 'woman have life on easy mode?' Patriarchy involves giving women these benefits so that they can be treated as less respectable and less competent. It removes accountability from women and has men shoulder it, but the side effect is that women aren’t viewed as equal to men and have fewer rights.	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/01/26 06:13 AM
2	How often do you have to communicate what you want during sex? I wonder how often gay men achieve orgasm.	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/01/26 05:59 AM
12	How often do you have to communicate what you want during sex? I wrote my response the way I did because I’m addressing heteronormative dating dynamics. I consider them separate and distinct from kinky/queer dating dynamics. Explain to me how these statements “clearly revolve around PiV = sex.” as a general rule I want her to cum before PiV to enhance the experience for her. sex should always start with foreplay focused on her. foreplay should go on long enough that she’s begging before you move to penetration? You act like if a penis is involved at all tha…	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/01/26 05:37 AM
3	Q4all: Do you think it's more common for women to be approached by sapphic women or for men to be approached by women? You mean my type /s	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/01/26 03:14 AM
3	Q4all: Do you think it's more common for women to be approached by sapphic women or for men to be approached by women? Heteronormative dating is honestly the shittiest part of being a straight cis guy (which kinda speaks to how not shitty the rest is. But genuinely, dating here sucks. I much prefer queer girlies on Feeld).	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/01/26 03:13 AM
2	Q4all: Do you think it's more common for women to be approached by sapphic women or for men to be approached by women? I don’t think their view is grounded in reality. I do think they’ve internalized a sex negative narrative that tells them women don’t like sex, and then they see radfems saying that women hate all men, and they draw the conclusion that women don’t want to sleep with them because no women actually enjoy sex. Anyway I just got a match while writing this. I’m gonna go see what that’s about.	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/01/26 03:09 AM
2	Q4all: Do you think it's more common for women to be approached by sapphic women or for men to be approached by women? I’ve only been approached by women a handful of times. Incidentally a lot of the times I’ve been approached by women they were queer. I think it’s more common for women to approach women than men, but that women who are used to approaching women are more comfortable with approaching generally.	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/01/26 03:05 AM
2	Q4all: Do you think it's more common for women to be approached by sapphic women or for men to be approached by women? Not OP but there’s a popular misandrist/incel narrative that women don’t actually like men. r/womenarenotintomen is an incel sub about it, but I’ve also seen it expressed overtly or as subtext by a lot of misandrists.	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/01/26 03:03 AM
14	How often do you have to communicate what you want during sex? These questions are asked as leading questions, so I’m going to provide a counterargument before answering directly. The orgasm gap is entirely explained by 1): women’s higher variability in how they achieve orgasm, 2): men are expected to just “know,” 3): women’s inability to request what they want and need in bed: Variability: Men are just wired to cum more easily. (I don’t, but that’s because I trained myself not to never cum prematurely). It’s not just that some women like penetration and ot…	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/01/26 02:56 AM
0	Q4ALL: Which scenario do you believe to be more common? Scenario 2	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/01/26 02:04 AM
–	If you could run one rigorous study on modern dating/gender conflict, what would you test and what do you predict? That’s because they’re responding to the same systemic issue, a patriarchal condition that makes women parasitic to a paternalizing order that dehumanizes women. Those men aren’t incorrect that some women receive special treatment and those women aren’t incorrect that some men abuse the abusive system that they were conditioned into. Where both sexists err is that they ascribe those behaviors to something intrinsic within men and women. And also as in suggesting here, they treat people who don’t…	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/01/26 01:42 AM
4	Some people are not meant to find a partner 100%. The post sneaks in “meant to” as if it’s an objective thing. Objectively, none of us are “meant to” or “supposed to” do anything. These are human concepts that don’t fit an evolutionary discussion.	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/01/26 07:54 PM
1	Ladies, "Formal connection" is just code for using sex as a bargaining chip, and it's a total passion killer. That’s good to hear. I also try to keep in mind that when I was coming up boomers shit on millennials for everything.	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/01/26 06:21 AM
1	Ladies, "Formal connection" is just code for using sex as a bargaining chip, and it's a total passion killer. Yeah I kinda feel that. It’s annoying because we have to share the world and I’m pretty sure we’re cooked within ten years	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/01/26 06:04 AM
3	If you don’t sleep with a man on the first date, what does that usually mean? I mean there are a ton of guys in this thread (and often red pill guys in other ones) who talk about body count like it’s a foregone conclusion that it lowers women’s value in the dating market. But I agree women do this a lot too	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/01/26 06:03 AM
12	Q4M: How is it that mid guys with no game still pull 10s overseas? One thing I haven’t seen mentioned is novelty. A lot of women value novelty. An Australian in America? Women are curious, love the accent, and think he’s interesting. From his perspective he’s just some guy from Australia. So I think they get added points for that. I think guys do this too, to a lesser extent. But like a chick with a French accent is going to elicit a lot of curiosity from me.	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/01/26 03:48 AM
1	Ladies, "Formal connection" is just code for using sex as a bargaining chip, and it's a total passion killer. You’re preaching to the choir dog. I just wish more women recognized their role in preserving this mindset. I blame girlboss feminists (aka pinkpill), for laundering these redpill/traditional values as if feminist ideals happen to align with patriarchal power structures.	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/01/26 03:41 AM
3	Ladies, "Formal connection" is just code for using sex as a bargaining chip, and it's a total passion killer. That’s basically what I do. We don’t need to fuck on the first date but I need a kiss or to make out or something to indicate that you don’t view sex in the transactional way u/iron-wold-41 describes. From my pov it’s just laughably dishonest when the same women who believe men shouldn’t have expectations expect men to fulfill certain patriarchal archetypes to “earn” sex. It’s like Of course you don’t owe me sex. I don’t owe you dinner or commitment. I thought we liked each other, but I’ll go fi…	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/01/26 03:35 AM
3	If you could run one rigorous study on modern dating/gender conflict, what would you test and what do you predict? Yup. “Women go through life with tons of guys doting on them. They get special treatment everywhere they go and never have to do anything for themselves. Talk about life on easy mode.” And the same thing happens with misandrist women. “Men control everything. They get away with literal murder and assault all the time and everyone just accepts it because they respect men for no reason. People excuse everything they do.” Both sexist men and women picture the average wo/man as more attractive than …	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/01/26 03:05 AM
2	Ladies, "Formal connection" is just code for using sex as a bargaining chip, and it's a total passion killer. I don’t really understand this tendency to cater to red pill behavior though. Like the guys who care about this stuff have internalized red pill beliefs, so when I go out with a girl who performs femininity that way I assume that she’s internalized those same beliefs.	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/01/26 02:31 AM
5	If you could run one rigorous study on modern dating/gender conflict, what would you test and what do you predict? Endorsement of sexist beliefs correlates strongly strongly to picturing the opposite gender “average” as attractive. I.e. sexist men think the average woman loves a successful influencer’s lifestyle while sexist women think the average guy is handsome enough to appeal to the majority of women (factor in status and finances. He drives a $40,000 - $60,000 car and owns property).	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/01/26 12:48 AM
0	Aight what should be the solution for gender wars ? Reframing “boys vs girls” to “sexists vs non sexists.”	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/01/26 10:44 PM
2	If you don’t sleep with a man on the first date, what does that usually mean? I’m saying I resent the assumption that all men are redpill (and I’m not about to have a conversation about why actually it’s okay for you to make sexist assumptions about me).	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/01/26 10:23 PM
4	The Manosphere Preys on Immaturity, Not Misogyny or Entitlement I’m also confused about how this relates to what they said. I think they raise a good point. Developmental obstacles may be the hook that gets them into manosphere nonsense, but that doesn’t mean that the manosphere doesn’t exacerbate misogyny.	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/01/26 10:14 PM
2	If you don’t sleep with a man on the first date, what does that usually mean? Your sex life isn’t my concern. I just want to voice that blue pill men exist.	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/01/26 10:01 PM
-1	If you don’t sleep with a man on the first date, what does that usually mean? I agree that’s what’s happening, but just want to add that not every guy sees women as dirtied by sex.	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/01/26 09:58 PM
2	Bisexual men represent the biggest share of bluepill men on PPD, yet women overwhelmingly are disgusted by the idea of dating a bisexual man. Explain why me not dating women or cops isn’t a phobia. Explain why a woman not dating bisexual men is. Can you do that? I did. In the paragraph you quoted immediately below that. It’s a bias because the exclusion is NOT based on physical attraction or incompatibility but on an irrational aversion to an invisible difference occurring within them. Once again, all dating involves bias. This is the meat of your argument. And this is where you are wrong.You talk as if sexual preferences are themselv…	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/01/26 07:13 PM
–	Bisexual men represent the biggest share of bluepill men on PPD, yet women overwhelmingly are disgusted by the idea of dating a bisexual man. Explain why me not dating women or cops isn’t a phobia. Explain why a woman not dating bisexual men is. Can you do that? I did. In the paragraph you quoted immediately below that. It’s a bias because the exclusion is NOT based on physical attraction or incompatibility but on but on an irrational aversion to an invisible difference occurring within them. Once again, all dating involves bias. This is the meat of your argument. And this is where you are wrong. You talk as if sexual preferences are …	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/01/26 07:08 PM
2	Bisexual men represent the biggest share of bluepill men on PPD, yet women overwhelmingly are disgusted by the idea of dating a bisexual man. What reason is that?	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/01/26 05:37 PM
5	Bisexual men represent the biggest share of bluepill men on PPD, yet women overwhelmingly are disgusted by the idea of dating a bisexual man. You’re a guy who thinks porn and threesomes are “fringe” and that people should only ever take advice from “traditional” men like you. Why should anyone care what you think is normal? Your definition of normal sucks	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/01/26 05:35 PM
1	Bisexual men represent the biggest share of bluepill men on PPD, yet women overwhelmingly are disgusted by the idea of dating a bisexual man. Let me address the meat of your argument with the meat of mine. If you have two identical men, (one is bi and the other is not) then the only difference between is that one also sees men as attractive. It’s something going on within them and nowhere else. If that is the deal breaker then it does imply she a bias against bisexuality, because whatever is a turn off about it to her must necessarily stem from a bias against bisexuality/homosexuality. I would argue that that is very different from no…	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/01/26 05:30 PM
5	Bisexual men represent the biggest share of bluepill men on PPD, yet women overwhelmingly are disgusted by the idea of dating a bisexual man. I didn’t think you’d call yourself “men.” Is it “women attacking men” anytime a woman calls you in your shit? You’re being biphobic by saying that all blue pill guys are bi, and that we shouldn’t listen to their takes because they are bisexual, and you throw in that women don’t like bisexual men. It’s obvious that you also don’t like bisexual men (and I assume LGBTQ people in general).	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/01/26 04:46 PM
4	Bisexual men represent the biggest share of bluepill men on PPD, yet women overwhelmingly are disgusted by the idea of dating a bisexual man. What sentence suggests that to you?	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/01/26 04:32 PM
3	Bisexual men represent the biggest share of bluepill men on PPD, yet women overwhelmingly are disgusted by the idea of dating a bisexual man. Also want to comment, this is getting beside the point, and at this point I assume you’ve conceded it since you’ve moved so far away from it. You are trying to stigmatize bisexuality. The vast majority of people fantasize about threesomes and group sex, so it isn’t as “weird” as you’re making it out to be, since those fantasies entail some degree of comfortability with non-heterosexual experiences. Normal people understand why it’s bigoted and shitty to try to make people feel bad for their sexu…	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/01/26 04:27 PM
2	Bisexual men represent the biggest share of bluepill men on PPD, yet women overwhelmingly are disgusted by the idea of dating a bisexual man. Who’s we? If someone wants to explore CNC I think that’s their right. I don’t see why they should have to kowtow to Christian conservatives always trying to enforce their Puritanism on people	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/01/26 04:18 PM
2	Bisexual men represent the biggest share of bluepill men on PPD, yet women overwhelmingly are disgusted by the idea of dating a bisexual man. FWIW if you have nuanced takes I don’t want you banned.	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/01/26 03:30 PM
3	Bisexual men represent the biggest share of bluepill men on PPD, yet women overwhelmingly are disgusted by the idea of dating a bisexual man. I think the person you’re arguing with there is right. People are entitled to their preferences, but that’s a little different from saying preferences never indicate a phobia. I think a man who will only date virgins has some obviously misogynistic hang ups. Similarly, I think if the reason a woman won’t date a man is because he’s bisexual, I think that constitutes biphobia. And at any rate I think OP is trying to use that to invalidate bi people’s perspective because they don’t like LGBTQ peopl…	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/01/26 03:01 PM
1	Bisexual men represent the biggest share of bluepill men on PPD, yet women overwhelmingly are disgusted by the idea of dating a bisexual man. This whole post is so nakedly homophobic too. It’s clearly intended to weaponize women’s biphobia against bi men and promote bi-erasure by invalidating bi men’s perspectives. OP is consistent enough in their responses that it’s clear they know what bi-erasure is, they know what forced heteronormativity is, and they’ll just pretend not to understand those concepts to enforce their shitty religious world order. That’s why they’re doing it. You see it (edit to add: guess not). I see it. And based o…	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/01/26 02:38 PM
3	Bisexual men represent the biggest share of bluepill men on PPD, yet women overwhelmingly are disgusted by the idea of dating a bisexual man. Tbh I’ve been temp banned for talking shit too. But I respect that they don’t let it devolve into mud slinging cause every post would probably go that way.	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/01/26 02:30 PM
7	Bisexual men represent the biggest share of bluepill men on PPD, yet women overwhelmingly are disgusted by the idea of dating a bisexual man. First of all that’s not what I’m suggesting. I’m suggesting that just because monogamy is the norm doesn’t make it superior, and I’m suggesting that you’ve probably watched porn outside of just a man and a woman having sensual monogamous sex, and I think it’s hypocritical to say that people are weird for exploring that.	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/01/26 07:49 AM
14	Bisexual men represent the biggest share of bluepill men on PPD, yet women overwhelmingly are disgusted by the idea of dating a bisexual man. Bi people’s perspectives are best, IMO, because they deal with dating from both sides. Bi women, for instance, will tell you that talking to girls is 10x harder than talking to guys. Bi guys will tell you that dating dudes can be scary and you have to be careful. You can use that knowledge to inform how you approach women.	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/01/26 07:47 AM
4	Bisexual men represent the biggest share of bluepill men on PPD, yet women overwhelmingly are disgusted by the idea of dating a bisexual man. How is it degrading? Do you watch porn?	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/01/26 07:37 AM
5	Bisexual men represent the biggest share of bluepill men on PPD, yet women overwhelmingly are disgusted by the idea of dating a bisexual man. How is it fringe if 87% of people fantasize about it? You’re just throwing around “normal” like that makes monogamy good. Not everyone wants to be like you. Stop trying to suggest they should.	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/01/26 07:27 AM
8	Bisexual men represent the biggest share of bluepill men on PPD, yet women overwhelmingly are disgusted by the idea of dating a bisexual man. Three ways are like the most common fantasy in the world. Almost 90% of person have them. So the difference is a woman can be with a red pill guy who has the need to constantly reinforce his vanilla ass no-fun sex is this one thing and anything else is gross mentality, or she can fuck a guy who knows how to live a little. Edit to add: politics aside, part of the reason women prefer non redpill men is because redpillers are sexually repressed.	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/01/26 07:00 AM
1	Bisexual men represent the biggest share of bluepill men on PPD, yet women overwhelmingly are disgusted by the idea of dating a bisexual man. Idk if I’m a 1% poster, but I’m unfortunately 100% straight. I’m into cucking to the extent that I’ve bulled for other couples. Monogamy is a red pill concept. Im non-monogamous but have gone long stretches in monogamous relationships before and don’t strictly oppose it. And you also say all this like it’s a a bad thing. There’s nothing wrong with being bi or in an open relationship or hotwifing.	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/01/26 06:40 AM
–	We often mistake THC-induced introspection for paranoia, but from a growth perspective, it's actually ego-auditing and super important Exactly. When blue pillers say “just be yourself” what do people think they mean? They mean be authentic. Be real and look for someone who will appreciate it. I don’t think that’s the same as saying looks don’t matter or that you don’t have to put effort into being appealing. But it’s closer to what OP is describing: doing some self examination to figure out who you. Confidence builds organically from that.	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/01/26 01:35 PM
–	We often mistake THC-induced introspection for paranoia, but from a growth perspective, it's actually ego-auditing and super important I don’t think aligning your inner and outer selves is anywhere close to the core of red pill.	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/01/26 12:34 PM
3	Question for Blue Pill: If kindness is as important when it comes to attraction as the mainstream says, how do you explain all these horrible men having girlfriends? From another person’s perspective, “love bombing” is just someone being nice to them and gassing them up. Which is why it’s effective for picking up women with low self esteem like u/lafrescatrumpeta mentioned. Also this whole thing of pointing to celebrities as proof of women’s innate preferences is stupid. BPD is a “clinical outlier to predict women’s general mating preferences” but fucking Johnny Depp isn’t? Give me a break. If it came out that Angelina Jolie may have been abusive to Brad Pit…	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/01/26 12:22 PM
–	Too many stats are given for the general populous when Gen Z and Alpha are provenly different, meaning their final stats will be different I don’t totally disagree, but your point is a little self contradictory isn’t it? You’re saying too many stats are given and that these aren’t reliable indicators of what’s likely to come, but you’re also providing stats that are pretty much in line with the stats I’ve seen regarding Gen Z and the discourse around dating (I.e. less people are doing it). You’re also saying we shouldn’t hand wave away the implications of these stats, but you seem to be suggesting that the marriage numbers will lik…	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/01/26 05:38 AM
-1	As a passport bro in training America women are right about this Freely consenting adults can do whatever they want and that shouldn’t be policed. But exploitation itself is obviously unethical, almost by definition. Laws against statutory rape, for instance, are defending against exploiting a kind of power imbalance. If we want to dig into moral philosophy, Kant argues that the worst thing a person can do is to reduce a person to their sheer utility. The most extreme example would be slavery, which is a maximally exploited power imbalance. But Kent’s definit…	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/01/26 12:46 AM
2	As a passport bro in training America women are right about this I think “passport bros” have a lot of guilt by association similar to age gap relationship enjoyers. Some of it is earned, some of it not. There’s nothing wrong with dating outside your age range or culture. What is wrong is exploiting a power imbalance. The messaging that western women have been spoiled by equality and progressive values is very conservative and gross, and speaks to the power imbalance that those guys mean to exploit. And I’ll be honest, that’s what I think of when I hear “pass…	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/01/26 12:02 AM
-1	Guys simply need to stop listening to online discourse that is largely driven by women and simps This content was anonymized and mass deleted with Redact	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/01/26 08:35 PM
6	Guys simply need to stop listening to online discourse that is largely driven by women and simps This content was anonymized and mass deleted with Redact	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/01/26 04:52 PM
6	Guys simply need to stop listening to online discourse that is largely driven by women and simps This content was anonymized and mass deleted with Redact	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/01/26 03:57 PM
16	Stop looking for unconditional love. Its unrealistic and entitled. I agree with this. I recently heard that a good relationship involves both people being “quick to apologize, quick to forgive,” and I think that’s true. When I’ve been in healthy relationships that’s how it felt, and when I’ve been in unhealthy ones it felt like that’s what was missing. That is what is meant by “unconditional,” I think. That your love for a person is based on your appreciation for them as a person over any one behavior or disagreement.	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/01/26 06:09 PM
21	Most male-female friendships are built upon a foundation of female deception I’m being sarcastic, suggesting that Jude believes that misrepresenting his intentions was somehow her fault.	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/01/26 03:06 PM
11	Most male-female friendships are built upon a foundation of female deception What does this anecdote even suggest? Would Jude not have been friends with her or nice to her if he knew from the start that she enjoys having fun? If his friendship and niceties are contingent on her being a shy little prude, then why would she let him know about her freak side?	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/01/26 02:08 PM
21	Most male-female friendships are built upon a foundation of female deception Why would she do that to him?!	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/01/26 02:02 PM
3	Why do women friends share sexual encounters so freely with their sexually frustrated friends? Ah I did my bad	/r/PurplePillDebate	31/12/25 07:11 PM
1	Why do women friends share sexual encounters so freely with their sexually frustrated friends? Look I’m not trying to bash you for struggling with sex. If it’s a point of insecurity that’s valid. But I do think examining that might help you. Having a healthy relationship to your own sexuality goes a long way in being perceived as fuckable to other people. In particular, women want to feel safe, but a guy who feels indignant rage and personal jealousy because she has sex is scary.	/r/PurplePillDebate	31/12/25 06:04 PM
-2	Why do women friends share sexual encounters so freely with their sexually frustrated friends? Sex is fun and interesting. Hemorrhoids rarely are.	/r/PurplePillDebate	31/12/25 05:38 PM
14	Why is slut shaming wrong? This is such a bullshitty answer. It’s like saying “being bigoted against racists is wrong,” or “bullying people for hurting nerds is wrong.” You know why it’s wrong, you just don’t care.	/r/PurplePillDebate	31/12/25 05:56 AM
1	Why is slut shaming wrong? That misses the point that “easiness doesn’t equal immorality.” They wouldn’t call those single digit chads immoral sluts for choosing to sleep with a bunch of women, even though they’re lucky. And anyway that is obviously not why people slut shame women. They don’t do it for any logical reason, really. They do it because since birth they were taught that sex is bad and shameful and that women are the ones who have to enforce that social more, because men won’t. So they internalize a sexist worl…	/r/PurplePillDebate	31/12/25 04:28 AM
19	Why is slut shaming wrong? Precisely. And it’s worth mentioning that it’s also morally fucked up when real issues, like pedophilia and mental health, get used as cover to abuse people for their sexualities. Like when transphobes incessantly imply that trans people are pedophiles, or when sexists harp about blue haired “sluts” all having mental health issues. It’s fucked up and gross how puritans latch onto these issues only to disingenuously suggest that anyone who isn’t ashamed of their sexuality must be some predatory d…	/r/PurplePillDebate	31/12/25 03:15 AM
35	Why is slut shaming wrong? To build off of this, slut shaming is wrong for the same reason that homophobia and transphobia are wrong. Religious excuses don’t excuse homophobia or transphobia, but neither do any excuses, because the fundamental problem with stigmatizing people for their sexual orientation, sexual identity, or sexual desires is that you are attacking groups of people for their most private, vulnerable, and personal domain of their lives. You are projecting to society that it is okay to police who these peop…	/r/PurplePillDebate	31/12/25 02:00 AM
9	🤔 Quick question for the Guys in This Sub: How Many of you Are Actually in a Relationship? 👀 You aren’t a dictionary. You’re just taking men’s ability to discuss a real thing that happens away. When that happens they turn to people who do give them a vocabulary for discussing sexism they face. I’d prefer the people discussing this with them not also be sexists.	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/12/25 03:42 PM
4	Feminism indirectly stole masculinity from men and disturbed dating in its own way And yet	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/12/25 02:35 PM
23	🤔 Quick question for the Guys in This Sub: How Many of you Are Actually in a Relationship? 👀 35 1: Single (with FWB and regularly dating) 2: I’m aware of redpill. I actively oppose it. My interest in this sub stems mostly from an interest in psychology and fascination with gender politics. I also hate misandrists for making feminism sound like hypocritical bullshit and driving men to the right. I feel like this is the best theater to clown on them while showing young men that opposing misandry doesn’t require you to become a misogynist. You can oppose both.	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/12/25 01:01 PM
5	Feminism indirectly stole masculinity from men and disturbed dating in its own way Why isn’t it realistic that people stop generalizing and criticizing groups on the basis of gender? You probably can’t make everyone stop being sexist, but if other bigotries are frowned upon why shouldn’t sexism be?	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/12/25 12:47 PM
3	Changing your behavior does not earn you a relationship, only validation I think the definition of blue pill is much murkier than red pill, especially when it comes to dating advice. Red pill dating advice is basically evolutionary psychology explanations filtered through social media (a problem that evo-psych already experiences, since those researchers are already tasked with explaining millennia from the context of right now). But it’s fair to say that it can be boiled down to men presenting as protector/providers types and women presenting as doting monogamists. …	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/12/25 05:20 AM
12	Changing your behavior does not earn you a relationship, only validation Doesn’t most blue pill advice boil down to “be your genuine self?”	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/12/25 04:13 AM
2	Why is hating the majority of a gender treated the same as hating the entire group? That response is confusing. What I’m getting at is that if you dated men, you’d likely discover that the issue is dating, interpersonal relationships, and probably some things you’re doing in these relationships. Not gender. Regardless, there’s no excuse to be a bigot.	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/12/25 05:53 AM
1	Why is hating the majority of a gender treated the same as hating the entire group? I don’t think you can fairly make these kinds of judgments about women until you’ve dated men.	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/12/25 05:35 AM
2	A dating quietly rewards men for behaviors that would be labeled predatory or toxic if those same men openly wanted to do them I accept both. Do you?	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/12/25 07:04 PM
2	A dating quietly rewards men for behaviors that would be labeled predatory or toxic if those same men openly wanted to do them It’s actually kind of striking how similar sex negative feminism is to religiously conservative sex negativity, which is why they support all the same policies (e.g. banning porn, criminalizing sex work, being anti-kink, socially enforcing sexual purity). In both cases the womb is sort of sanctified as the seat of women’s power and importance. Sex is framed as inherently violating to her, and there’s a belief that her sexual decisions don’t just offend her honor, but the honor of her community (…	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/12/25 06:59 PM
1	A dating quietly rewards men for behaviors that would be labeled predatory or toxic if those same men openly wanted to do them I think men and women should be free to watch or read whatever they want. Kink shaming people in either case is wrong.	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/12/25 06:41 PM
2	A dating quietly rewards men for behaviors that would be labeled predatory or toxic if those same men openly wanted to do them It makes me think women are envisioning their ideal committed partner, whereas men are reporting which women are most sexually appealing to them. But idk, as a woman do older men get more attractive to you as you’ve aged? Or do younger men starting looking less good?	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/12/25 06:35 PM
1	A dating quietly rewards men for behaviors that would be labeled predatory or toxic if those same men openly wanted to do them Women who weaponize that situation to hurt men are immature and bad. I don’t disagree with that. But all you can do with that information is decide to not care what they think and continue to operate in a way that doesn’t hurt people. I think the reason we don’t see that behavior in movies but see it in high fantasy books is because those books are framed within a fantasy world. They aren’t in romcoms anymore because they’d hit too close to home, and we can’t unsee the problematic behavior as a …	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/12/25 06:28 PM
2	A dating quietly rewards men for behaviors that would be labeled predatory or toxic if those same men openly wanted to do them OP basically says that learning how to romance women involves learning how to manipulate them. My take is that all social interaction involves “manipulation,” in that sense. (I.e. it’s manipulative to tell a joke to someone you want to be friends with. It’s manipulative to take on more responsibility at work so you can ask for a raise). If a woman expects a guy to plan a date, be charming, and maintain an air of mystery (rather than professing his interest in her), then a guy following suit stri…	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/12/25 05:29 PM
1	If the majority of people you know are dysfunctional, that's your fault. I mean, do you disagree with her post here?	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/12/25 05:13 PM
–	Are men who don't have sex viewed as threats? That’s basically how I feel. Its sort of like hustle culture: the motivation to improve your life isn’t bad. It’s the wholesale adoption of a toxic attitude as like an ideology that is a red flag, especially when the people who get wrapped up in it seem to lose the ability to view things any other way.	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/12/25 04:58 PM
1	If the majority of people you know are dysfunctional, that's your fault. I disagree with the assumption that women sleeping around automatically means a woman is unstable, or that it inevitably results in her regretting casual sex. But I fully agree that these guys are hypocrites projecting that onto women. I actually seriously doubt that they know many women who lament all the casual sex they’ve had. I’ve met women who say they had periods of promiscuity and don’t do it anymore, but it’s usually in a “been there, done that,” kind of way. I don’t think I’ve ever met …	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/12/25 04:41 PM
2	If the majority of people you know are dysfunctional, that's your fault. I feel like Lilith’s perspective has slowly shifted to be more nuanced in a way that’s actually pretty heartening.	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/12/25 04:35 PM
2	A dating quietly rewards men for behaviors that would be labeled predatory or toxic if those same men openly wanted to do them I think sexism is fueled by the sexless, and we live in this weird time where sexist losers have an outsized voice online (and in government). But people will get tired of being told that it’s shameful to like sex and romance, and that liking men/women makes them a gender traitor. It’s why radical feminists lost the sex battles in the seventies.	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/12/25 04:19 PM
7	A dating quietly rewards men for behaviors that would be labeled predatory or toxic if those same men openly wanted to do them Some women fully understand the dynamics you wrote about in your post and exploit them because they hate men. They’re just bad people.	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/12/25 04:00 PM
11	A dating quietly rewards men for behaviors that would be labeled predatory or toxic if those same men openly wanted to do them OP, I think that’s all basically accurate, but there’s a way to reframe these things so they aren’t a complaint so much as an understanding. 1: The boldness women seek in romantic partners can easily be framed as creepy if they aren’t into the guy. The takeaway for guys: One woman doesn’t get to unilaterally decide for all women what is acceptable. If you respected ethical boundaries, then you shouldn’t feel bad if one person took offense to you asking if she wants to dance. 2: A lot of women co…	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/12/25 03:28 PM
–	Men, would you date a woman that says she’s a “girls girl”? Dom Daddy Little Girl (DDLG) is a kink. It’s basically what you describe. And it’s perfectly fine for a woman to have this kink and to enjoy acting submissive to a protector/provider man. But there’s a huge difference between practicing DDLG as a kink and adopting it as a lifestyle without any kink awareness. It sounds like you’re clocking why this is a problem: 1: She’s internalized a bunch of patriarchal precepts that she unironically believes men and women should follow. 2: She hates men for …	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/12/25 02:09 PM
–	Men, would you date a woman that says she’s a “girls girl”? I like subby women too, but would never date one who brats as a lifestyle without being kink aware.	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/12/25 01:25 PM
–	Men, would you date a woman that says she’s a “girls girl”? Very good point.	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/12/25 01:20 PM
2	Men are more violent than women, not more abusive. I understand. A lot of how we talk about feminism is contextual. I think it’s fair to say that much of online feminism has been co-opted by radical feminists. Exclusionary radical feminists perspectives override and force out inclusive/liberal/equality-based perspectives. That’s true whether we’re talking trans people, sex workers, or male allies. But this sub sort of showcases how unpopular their takes are with the general public, because they can’t win by actively excluding dissenting or censo…	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/12/25 08:51 PM
2	Men are more violent than women, not more abusive. That’s not true for me. I want liberal feminism to win out over boys-vs-girls feminism. That’s a normal thing to want if you care about gender equality, and the idea that it somehow makes a person a misogynist to think feminists shouldn’t practice or endorse sexism is flawed.	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/12/25 05:44 PM
3	Men are more violent than women, not more abusive. we just wish more reasonable feminists would put a leash on the radical ones. Hard agree. I wish more anti-sexist women would tell exclusionary radical feminists that liberal feminism is a valid expression of feminism, and radical feminism just makes feminism overall look hypocritical and unappealing.	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/12/25 05:42 PM
3	Men are more violent than women, not more abusive. OP is on the money that the rates are almost identical, but the relative ease of identifying physical abuse compared to more nebulous psychological abuse, coupled with social pressures that discourage men from identifying as victims of women, create an illusion that female abusers exploit. I’ve said before and I’ll say it again that a woman hitting a man is not the same as the opposite. It strikes me as disingenuous when MRAs pretend that size differences are irrelevant. But I have no doubt that…	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/12/25 03:23 PM
3	Men are more violent than women, not more abusive. Women know that women are capable of abuse too, and women know that abuse can be psychological and emotional.	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/12/25 03:02 PM
–	A lot of young men are leaning conservative simply because leftists/liberals aren’t making it a point to speak directly to men, like they do to other groups, which conservatives take advantage of I’m 100% a leftist, I’m just a liberal feminist. I don’t think people should tolerate gender essentialist, right wing talking points parroted by “feminists” like you, because there’s a morally consistent framework for my feminism. Unlike radical feminists, I think everyone is born equal and there is no essential difference based on gender, and that gender based discrimination is wrong. Edit to add: I’m actually not “sowing division.” I’m doing the opposite: preaching equality. If your feminism t…	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/12/25 01:41 PM
–	A lot of young men are leaning conservative simply because leftists/liberals aren’t making it a point to speak directly to men, like they do to other groups, which conservatives take advantage of I’m a leftist man and 100% agree. Its not just that radical feminism excludes men, it’s that it promotes illiberal ideas (e.g. “porn should be illegal,” “men and women are too different to be considered equal“ “sexism is a tool we can use to hurt the patriarchy”), so it actively drives away left-leaning and moderate men who otherwise might make good allies. I don’t blame a young man for turning to the dark side when they’re encountering people like u/Difficult-Value-2670 online and seeing how mu…	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/12/25 01:07 PM
3	So many women are married to gay men and they don't realize it I dated a cute trad girl in college. She was second gen Taiwanese raised conservatively in Texas. We had a pretty great relationship for four years, before she transferred to Oxford. As nice as it was I think I’ve always sought someone who I relate to more as a person besides. I’m not letting one person turn me off queer or alternative women. Everybody’s different.	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/12/25 08:51 PM
4	So many women are married to gay men and they don't realize it Soft, sweet, and submissive is fine as a kink but I prefer an equal outside of the bedroom.	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/12/25 08:04 PM
1	If you don't want to be exclusivity with a person, then you don't really like them. But, as someone else pointed out, the existence of non-monogamy proves that we didn’t evolve to be strictly monogamous. Non-monogamy is quite common. And their existence in spite of thousands of years of culturally and religiously mandated monogamy suggests that it would be even more common if we were just going off of what humans would do naturally. It is inaccurate to say that we evolved to pair bond monogamous when so many people do not, and when the intense socio-cultural pressures against n…	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/12/25 04:53 PM
1	If you don't want to be exclusivity with a person, then you don't really like them. What about people who are competent at dealing with complex relational structures? Should it matter to them if some dumbasses who can barely handle one relationship disapprove of their polycule or whatever?	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/12/25 04:36 PM
1	If you don't want to be exclusivity with a person, then you don't really like them. What if you fucked other people in your community?! Maybe that could work too!	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/12/25 04:23 PM
2	The majority of criminals are not raised by single moms. That’s just propaganda to blame women for the actions of men. Yeah. And I don’t take freakonomics as gospel. But I think there’s a pretty clear reason states with more progressive policies are better educated, wealthier, and have lower crime stats. Red policies are typically more short-term-at-the-expense-of-long-term solutions, while blue policies are the opposite. If you overpolice drugs, you’ll get some criminals off the street. If you disproportionately incarcerate black men, you’re also taking fathers, brothers, uncles, and family support off the stre…	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/12/25 02:59 PM
6	So many women are married to gay men and they don't realize it Oh it was a couple years ago and I’m pretty much over it. I just have zero empathy for people who would use a break up to vilify people for transitioning or coming out. Those people need to get over themselves. Even the term “trans widow” is hilariously pathetic and self victimizing.	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/12/25 02:29 PM
6	The majority of criminals are not raised by single moms. That’s just propaganda to blame women for the actions of men. I think they mean that, to your point, states with abortion access have significantly reduced crime rates, at least partially because more abortions equals less kids growing up in extreme poverty and unstable housing.	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/12/25 01:59 PM
2	If you don't want to be exclusivity with a person, then you don't really like them. I’m an empath. Sometimes I can tell how a person is feeling by imagining that’s how they feel and then instantly deciding I’m right.	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/12/25 01:54 PM
1	If you don't want to be exclusivity with a person, then you don't really like them. Why not pair bond with multiple people?	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/12/25 01:52 PM
4	So many women are married to gay men and they don't realize it I’ll speak to this as a straight cis man. While I’m very open, sexually, my partner was always more fluid than me. She was bi, which I did think was a bonus because it might get me involved in FFM threesomes eventually. Alas. What did happen is that she eventually asked about transitioning. I scoffed and told her I wouldn’t be attracted to her if she were a man, which she did take offense to. Then, during the pandemic, she fell down a radfem rabbit hole and became a lesbian separatist, leaving m…	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/12/25 01:26 PM
2	Rebranding sexual validation as "empowerment" reduces agency for both men and women. I hear what you’re saying, but her argument is so loaded with sex negativity that I don’t buy it. I find with this type of discussion, there’s often a lot of motte and Bailey arguments. The easily defensible argument (for instance, that you personally felt socially pressured to dress for male gratification in the name of empowerment felt disempowering), is valid. But OP is talking about changing the language around to suggest the opposite: that in order to prevent situations where one is told th…	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/12/25 05:38 AM
3	Rebranding sexual validation as "empowerment" reduces agency for both men and women. No, I’m clarifying that your position harms women. Your position questions the societal impact of women’s sexual behavior. By holding this position, you normalize questioning the social cost/benefit of women’s sexual behavior, which normalizes the evaluation of women based on their sexual behavior, which normalizes the policing of women’s bodies.	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/12/25 08:28 PM
3	Rebranding sexual validation as "empowerment" reduces agency for both men and women. As stated, the suggestion that someone else’s opinions of a woman’s sexual exploits IS the problem. Why is your opinion (that validation is commodified; that sex is not, or should not be perceived as, empowering) relevant? It’s the implication that it is moral to evaluate women through the lens of their sexual history that is the problem. That is itself a form of control that’s socially enforced for women in a way that it isn’t enforced against men.	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/12/25 07:42 PM
25	Women should just cut off any access to intamcy till they get the result they want. Boys vs girls bullshit. Men and women like sex, commitment, and each other. The vast majority of women aren’t going to turn femcel to support your gender war.	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/12/25 02:52 PM
4	Rebranding sexual validation as "empowerment" reduces agency for both men and women. Most people identify with liberal feminists values. Most people who’d say they support feminism but don’t consider themselves “feminists” identify with the values of liberal feminism, not radical feminism. This gets distorted online where the people identifying as feminists are doing so in radical feminist spaces, where liberal feminism is largely excluded. That’s not to say radical feminism hasn’t gone mainstream. It’s more to point out that even if online spaces are dominated by radical femini…	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/12/25 05:46 AM
3	Rebranding sexual validation as "empowerment" reduces agency for both men and women. Exclusionary radical feminists are. But they’re basically incels with vaginas. Liberal feminism doesn’t oppose women’s sexual liberation.	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/12/25 03:17 AM
8	Rebranding sexual validation as "empowerment" reduces agency for both men and women. Whether women have too much sexual freedom.	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/12/25 03:09 AM
7	Rebranding sexual validation as "empowerment" reduces agency for both men and women. It is about personal choice though. Your argument is basically that society has done too much to sexually liberate women, to the point that it cheapens sex by commodifying it. How does this reduce agency in any way shape or form? How, specifically, does it reduce long term well being? This argument relies on a lot of presumptions about sex: that it should be reserved for a man and a woman in a committed romantic relationship. That sex outside of that dynamic is harmful. And that sex is harmful t…	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/12/25 10:58 PM
1	Q4M: Between two identical looking men, who’s going to have the most casual sex: the intro or the extro? I think that’s sort of splitting hairs if we’re talking about it from an evo-psych perspective. You could argue that women like men who can procure drugs, celebrity access, and exclusive parties because these are signs that the man is genetically predisposed to be agreeable, high EQ, higher intelligence, and extroverted. Or you could say it the other way around, that women like men with those personality traits because it can afford them those material benefits. It’s sort of chicken or the egg.	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/12/25 10:41 PM
2	The rise of unhealthy female gooners Stigmatizing people for their sexual identity, orientation, or preferences is oppressive, full stop.	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/12/25 08:25 AM
–	Men who dont get dates and relationships biggest problem with women I could be open to this as a social experiment, if we chat some more and confirm that you’re a safe person. There’s also the ethical concern that you couldn’t actually follow through on any dates you lineup and it’d be catfishing, and I’d be a little worried about maybe getting by flagged by the app for hav in separate profiles. Still, if this is something you’re interested in we could chat more to formalize it as an experiment.	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/12/25 06:10 AM
1	What constitutes a simp? I have people arguing with me that simp-ism is bad because it causes men to be too nice women, and you arguing with me that pick-me-ism is bad because it causes women to over sympathize with men. Neither are true. Most well adjusted people would be called simp by incels and pick mes by femcels.	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/12/25 10:44 PM
1	What constitutes a simp? There are plenty of situations where people kill each other for stupid reasons. The way these terms are used colloquially isn’t to call out one in a million toxic behavior, but to deride people for allying with the opposite sex.	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/12/25 09:13 PM
1	What constitutes a simp? There are users and doormats in the world. But that’s not really how simp or pick me get used. Most of the time when someone is called a “simp” it’s a man defending women’s rights. Most of the time when a woman gets called a pick me, it’s a woman who likes things men like or who unapologetically likes men. In both cases, the subtext is that the simp/pick me is harming their gender by relating to the opposite gender.	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/12/25 07:50 PM
-3	What constitutes a simp? “Simp” is a sexist term used to malign men who care about women. Likewise, “pick me” is a sexist term used to denigrate women who care about men. Edit: calling a man a simp is misogynistic, not misandrist, because the implication is that caring about women is bad. Calling a woman a pick me is misandrist for the inverse reason. Both terms imply that someone is a gender traitor for caring about or sympathizing with the opposite gender, which is textbook discrimination.	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/12/25 06:27 PM
2	The rise of unhealthy female gooners Yes, oppress. When you stigmatize an outgroup you encrourage oppression. And again, this whole “actually inclusivity and social acceptance is bad for outgroups” sounds like fascist bullshit.	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/12/25 04:18 PM
5	The rise of unhealthy female gooners The idea that people should enjoy being marginalized because it prevents monoculture is ridiculous on its face. No, I don’t think it’s a good thing when the mainstream bullies a subculture. I don’t think “they get to enjoy being called freaks by normies.” This is a weird argument that I’ve seen a few times, expressed in a few different ways, and it’s highly alarming. Examples (paraphrased): More intense patriarchal attitudes are actually good for women because they heighten the expectation place…	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/12/25 02:57 PM
1	The rise of unhealthy female gooners I speak up when I see swerf rhetoric. But it’s bad for the discourse when they can just say that men complain about women reading fictitious stories. Both arguments promote sex negativity. It’s better to genuinely hold the position you’re representing (I.e. people should be allowed to explore and express their sexuality however they see fit as long as it’s consensual) and argue it from there, since there isn’t a defensible reason that someone else’s discomfort with people’s sex should override t…	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/12/25 02:45 PM
2	The rise of unhealthy female gooners Who is saying that this is transcendent? Can you point me to one person saying that Morning Glory Milking Farm made them transcend?	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/12/25 02:29 PM
1	The rise of unhealthy female gooners I agree that men and women aren’t different, at least not on an intrinsic level. Their sexualities, ambitions, struggles, and life experiences aren’t fundamentally more noble or shameful than one another’s. They don’t love or hate or fear differently, even if it gets expressed differently. But I don’t think watching porn is bad, and I don’t think reading smut is bad. I do think it’s bad to shame people for watching porn or reading smut. There’s no reason to shame people for masturbating or engag…	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/12/25 02:20 PM
7	The rise of unhealthy female gooners People are allowed to be weird. I think that’s fine.	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/12/25 02:13 PM
2	The rise of unhealthy female gooners Yeah. Kink shaming is wrong even if you don’t personally share the kink.	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/12/25 02:12 PM
4	The rise of unhealthy female gooners it destroys gender narratives Good. Fuck gender narratives. We need less sexist enforcing of gender norms, not more. Gender narratives result in double standards for both men and women and reinforce sexism at a social level, which is why patriarchy exists in the first place: because men and women aren’t viewed and treated the same. They’re discriminated against because of their gender. women behaving (and failing) in the same way men do is a step up (especially if your showing it off). How is re…	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/12/25 02:02 PM
1	The rise of unhealthy female gooners Define “unhealthy.” it’s not what decides if the attachment/obsession is healthy or not. What decides if an attachment id healthy or not? And what even is an attachment to a fictitious character? Why would it matter if it’s avoidant, anxious, anxious-avoidant, or secure? when the driving motivation is obviously negative like “This character is yearning something insane for this woman. No one has ever done that for me.” Again, why is that negative, why does it matter if it’s a fictitious characte…	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/12/25 01:54 PM
1	Slut Paradox: Men don’t wanna wife sluts, but are sluts the ladies who genuinely like men? Insecurity is the only reason to hate women for their sexual histories. Shaming women for that is hateful and sexist, so it does bother me.	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/12/25 01:04 AM
2	Slut Paradox: Men don’t wanna wife sluts, but are sluts the ladies who genuinely like men? As is like anything else. If you want to be good at it, it takes practice. And I’m guessing based off of your regurgitated puritan bullshit that you’re no authority on good sex. And you can slut shame all you want, but to me it wouldn’t matter if a woman slept with half the party. I’m not worried that any of those guys are better in bed than me, because I’ve slept with the other half of the party. So why would I be afraid she’d leave me when I’m the best she’s ever had?	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/12/25 12:45 AM
3	Slut Paradox: Men don’t wanna wife sluts, but are sluts the ladies who genuinely like men? If you have more sex with more people you will get better at sex. Also, the important part of what I’m saying is that a promiscuous woman is just more fun. She has more joie de vivre. Shes the life of the party and she everyone’s happier when she’s around. If you can handle a woman like that (as in not get jealous and insecure) then you’re the luckiest guy in the world.	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/12/25 12:33 AM
1	What I think people get wrong about whether or not men care about your career They do it consciously because they feel that this particular setup would or would not be best for them even if they’re still attracted to the 22 year old waitress. I find a 22 year old waitress attractive, but I’m not attracted to her in the same way that I’m attracted to a 32 year old photographer/librarian. And I don’t think that distinction is irrelevant since it seems like the same distinction women make in dating. To be clear, I think you’re wrong to think men and women process these types…	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/12/25 11:34 PM
–	"Women are happier single" is a another dishonest statement peddled by femcels & misandrists This is semantics. When we say “hate speech” we mean hatred as in prejudice and bigotry. When u/N_Count_Council says “they convince themselves they don’t [hate men],” he’s clearly referring to hate in the sense of prejudice, not the emotion.	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/12/25 11:24 PM
1	Children Possess Rights to Parental Care No they shouldn’t. It’s a violation of their agency.	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/12/25 08:42 PM
0	Children Possess Rights to Parental Care And when that happens, people can choose to abort, adopt, or raise it themselves. But they shouldn’t be able to choose to make someone else raise it against their choice.	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/12/25 07:45 PM
4	Do you guys legitimately feel that men aren't disadvantaged in modern dating? Bio essentialist sexism.	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/12/25 04:38 PM
2	Some Women Are So Obsessed With Older Men That It Makes You Wonder . . . I mean, that probably does happen. I’m sure if you checked their search history it’d have a lot of “sluts” “milf,” “mature,” “pawg” etc. probably in a strong correlation to how fixated they are on those issues	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/12/25 03:40 PM
-3	Some Women Are So Obsessed With Older Men That It Makes You Wonder . . . I think it’s extremely likely that you’re correct. People project all the time. I’d extend this to say that most of the anti-sex crowd are the ones who struggle the most with their sex drives, and the frustration they feel at suppressing their own sexuality comes out as angst against people who aren’t abstaining.	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/12/25 12:58 PM
3	If stealthing is legally considered rape, so should lying about birth control be treated as reproductive coercion and be equally punished Then I guess “violation” is the better term. I’m skeptical of criminalizing either, for the reasons others have pointed out. Recently I was with a woman who had said she didn’t want to have sex without a condom. After a few dates she was rubbing against me raw, and I teased slipping it in, and she teased back. I paused her and double checked if it was cool, and then we had raw sex. Last weekend she said she was too sore and don’t want to have sex anymore. Later, we were cuddling and teasing, and…	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/12/25 05:16 AM
7	Q4W: How do you reconcile the average man's experiences with your observations? Id add that media plays a role (and always has) in shaping people’s perceptions of what “average” is as well. In Seinfeld, Jerry dates 73 women. In a lot of sitcoms there’s a different love interest practically every week. And a lot of the male love interests romcoms are quickly established as cavalier “chads” who have their pick of the litter with women. Because these are stories, and because “Chad” is also mostly fictitious. The reason world famous actors like James Franco were getting MeToo’d…	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/12/25 05:02 AM
–	If stealthing is legally considered rape, so should lying about birth control be treated as reproductive coercion and be equally punished I think they’re different crimes that are wrong for the same ethical reason. But i think part of the difference is that stealthing is a sex crime whereas lying about being in birth control to get pregnant is more like a financial crime.	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/12/25 04:48 AM
4	"Nice girls" are just as common in dating as "nice guys" but their complaints get validated instead of made fun of. The equivalent of a guy who takes offense to rejection is a woman who takes offense to rejection. Women who complain about fuck bois are like men who complain about women “leading them on.” Manipulative men and women exist, but you need to keep in mind that every time you hear these complaints, they’re coming from someone who is bitter because they felt entitled to someone else’s body or entitled to someone else’s commitment, and it’s a lot more likely that the jilted party is justifying their b…	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/12/25 10:27 PM
0	I think identifying the attractive aspects of toxic masculinity was the peak of male dating advice, and influencers these days have taken it to autistic levels “If you pay for my Farris I’ll fuck hot girls.” (Not an actual quote. Just the subtext).	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/12/25 12:32 PM
6	Women Argue Against What They Think You're Saying Instead of What You Actually Said This is a human thing. It’s also partly a pill-issue. If someone is making red-pill arguments, you might infer a bunch of their other beliefs. For instance the financial/abortion thing. They see themselves as calling out hypocrisy in your party platform. Which can be misguided, but it isn’t always. They it’s bad faith actors, they might not want to admit their anti-choice because it’s inconvenient to their financial-choice position, for instance. And as regards personal relationships, arguments …	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/12/25 10:35 PM