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There is a clear definition dude. There goes the hand waving and strawmanning.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/24 07:50 PM
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You guys also hand wave everything. No evidence is ever good enough. I don't think there is anything that could be shown to you to prove something is misogyny.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/24 07:33 PM
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I don't disagree with you about kyriarchy being the root of all social problems, but I think you're getting mixed up a bit with the definition. Your link also says that patriarchy falls under the umbrella of kyriarchy: "It is an intersectional extension of the idea of patriarchy beyond gender." Patriarchy is a form or kyriarchy, but kyriarchy is a term designed to talk about different kinds of oppression stemming from patriarchy. Hence, intersectionality. The person who coined the term states th…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/24 06:26 PM
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It's a trend, but I don't think it's as big as the internet makes it seem. It can depend on the circles you're in. I don't see it in person personally, but I see it online. In my circle (we're in our late twenties and early thirties), my fiance and I are the only ones who are planning to be child free. Out of our friends, I'd say the men are more vocal about wanting children and bring it up more often, but the women still want them too. It's a back burner thought for them, however. Regarding the…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/24 06:36 PM
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I wouldn't conflate negligence with relaxed parenting or helicopter parenting. Negligent has a definition: "failing to take proper care in doing something."
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/24 04:50 PM
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On the contrary, I think people who don't view childcare as work and underestimate the time, effort, and the many different facets it takes to raise a healthy well-rounded child shouldn't raise kids because they would be negligent parents. A child is a major responsibility that takes work. Doesn't mean that the work isn't rewarding, but if you don't see it as work you're definitely ill prepared to be a parent.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/24 11:24 PM

Just get them. My dad got them in his 50s. Sometimes it was a conversation starter for him. It's only temporary and the more proactive you are about wearing your bands the sooner you get them off. Definitely follow the no soda rule too. So maybe people think it's silly, but when their braces come off they have spots all over their teeth.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/24 04:58 PM
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I don't really think any music taste is a red flag, but it's more so a compatibility thing. The more music taste in common, the better. That said, a green flag is definitely not limiting yourself to one genre and only top radio hits like you mentioned. I also like it when people are more open to lyricless music too.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/24 07:04 PM
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How can you say this without a hint of irony that you're also trying to paint all women to have one experience...aka being a spokesperson for all women because you get to, but another user doesn't?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/24 06:13 PM
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But what of it? All I see are guys saying that women should be less shallow, but giving men the pass to be as shallow as they want. It's hypocritical and entitled.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/24 04:03 PM
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Drawing, writing/story building, reading, videogames (playing and making), crocheting, language learning, ttrpgs, surfing, boxing, swimming, hiking , learning in a general sense (I do deep dives into rabbit holes for very specific subjects), and gardening. One day I also want to learn to make stain glass artwork and chainmail to add to the hobby list.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/24 06:17 PM

Great point! I think this is true too and it's not discussed enough when talking about personality here on this sub. No one will ever be a one-size-fits-all when it comes to personality. Personality still matters, but some personalities work better with others and some do not. Understand which people you work well with for better results.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/24 05:55 PM
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Idk...the irony of this post is that you're trying to decry all women by alienating and isolating them of positive human qualities. Everything you said about women was negative. This in itself is exemplary of not being empathetic yourself. Plus, you had to "justify" yourself in your first paragraph which isn't really showing your own confidence in your ability to be empathetic. Your empathetic deed was intentionally left vague. Then, because of your vague heroic empathetic action, you're expecti…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/24 11:35 PM
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God, relate to people giving sympathy to the perpetrator. I wasn't raped, but serially SA'd by a family member growing up. When I felt comfortable enough coming forward to talk about it, the family member ADMITTED to doing it and yet my family still took his side and made me out to be the problem for bringing it up. People seriously underestimate how poorly victims and survivors are treated.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/24 04:46 PM
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Lol I remember the other day you SPECIFICALLY got upset over my response to you for pointing out that men need to be accountable for their actions and behavior. Then you strawmanned "men bad women good"... Yet here you are advocating for men's bad behavior. You guys are either completely dumb or have a fetish for shooting yourselves in the foot.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/24 04:27 PM
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"I've never seen it!" Doesn't mean it doesn't happen dude. Two days ago, California: https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.mercurynews.com/2024/05/08/pinole-woman-27-killed-at-oakland-gas-station-by-two-gunmen/amp/ One day ago https://www.news4jax.com/news/local/2024/05/08/man-accused-of-shooting-32-year-old-woman-multiple-times-at-fairfax-gas-station-arrested/ Houston, two women stabbed at a gas station: https://www.tampabay.com/news/crime/2024/05/08/largo-wawa-gas-station-attack-stabbing/ Five days…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/24 08:52 PM
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Yes, my favorite strawman.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/24 10:53 PM
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Men not valuing women beyond their physical attractiveness is not a fault of women but a fault of man.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/24 06:05 PM
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The point is that you don't understand analogies.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/24 08:38 PM
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Analogy definition: "a comparison between two things, typically for the purpose of explanation or clarification." If you're are comparing two things like a woman to a car and how you would treat said car, then yes you allude that you treat women no different than objects because the treatment is what's being clarified. That's how analogies work.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/24 08:27 PM
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Lmao nice thesaurus, my guy. You didn't even use the word alliteration correctly. Now you're trying to hold your "intellectual high ground" with horrible attempts at sounding like a pseudo intellectual. Like clockwork. We all know you guys have extreme fomo and are frustrated. That's what a majority of PPD posts are about. No need to reillustrate your point with emotional, hyperbolic extremes. It's whiny and fallacious. That's why people get annoyed with the 14 and deep analogy. It doesn't add a…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/24 06:55 PM
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Are forming thoughts that aren't comparisons designed to only work as emotional arguments difficult for you?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/24 05:08 PM
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You're not starving or dying of thirst ffs. These hyperbolic analogies do you guys no favors.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/24 04:25 PM
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It's called burden of proof. Aka you are RESPONSIBLE for providing a source or reference. When you aren't talking responsibility, you dodging accountability. Accountability (noun) the fact or condition of being accountable; responsibility. Yes, you are dodging accountability. You're either very lazy or an extremely incompetent debater if you're relying on others to prove your own argument for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/24 11:07 PM
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They don't have to. It's your responsibility when asserting the claim. Or are you going to dodge accountability again and again?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/24 10:12 PM
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Guys LARP so hard on PPD it's insane.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/24 11:57 PM
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FACTTSS RATIONAL BIOLOGICAL OBJECTIVE FACTS BASED ON BASIC COMMON SENSE LOGIC THAT'S SCIENTIFICALLY PROVEN BY MY OBJECTIVE OBSERVATIONS IN EVOLUTION AND REALITY
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/24 10:16 PM
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Both my parents are business oriented people. They run a business together, make the same wage, work the same hours. There are some things they conform to. For example, off hours my mom would do the majority of cooking and cleaning while my dad did the majority of repairs and auto maintenance. I think how they raised me was conventional for the time/our location but unconventional compared to passed generations. Like, I was able to play with whatever toys I wanted. I had video games, Yu-Gi-Oh ca…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/24 08:17 PM
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Congrats on the three years of sobriety. There are many other places and activities, but I think this stems from people not pursuing communal spaces for your hobbies or interests. (Though knowing PPD, I want to specify: these are not for cold approaching. These places are best for warm approaches). I have a friend who is dating someone they met from a running group. Another that is married to someone who they met in an improv class. And another is dating someone they met at the bookstore by maki…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/24 10:16 PM
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Manosphere men often paint men being shallow as being virtuous, but women being shallow as a vice. Example: Men saying women only need to be attractive and that's "Loving women for who they are." Meanwhile also saying women only seek chads, because they're hot or whatever, makes their standards too high for wanting to date someone they're attracted to. Things are "biological" only when it benefits the manosphere narrative. The manosphere frequently argues in limited biological determinist perspe…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/24 08:10 PM
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And this is not based on your imagination and assumptions?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/24 10:01 PM
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I don't entirely agree or disagree, but then why not try selling older women who do value intelligence? Wouldn't your values align more?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/24 09:57 PM
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So attractiveness correlates with intelligence? How is it an either/or dichotomy? Are all intelligent men ugly and all unintelligent men attractive? Where are you concluding this other than your own reddit comment chaining to other reddit comments?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/24 09:47 PM

For me it doesn't matter. My partner is shorter than me when I'm not wearing heels already. Though I've noticed some of my guy friends do get a bit uncomfortable when I wear heels around them. Like they'll start asking about my height and have me line up with them to see who is taller. I don't think the manosphere is wrong that women typically want someone taller than them, but they're wrong when they push that it's strictly 6ft and up. Usually just being taller than the woman at any height is e…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/24 08:28 PM

Sure. It's also basic biology that you eat and shit everyday but you don't go extrapolating that it's your life's purpose. That's you cherry picking.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/24 06:44 PM

Not really... There is no meaning or point to life. Thinking your purpose is reproduction is religious indoctrination.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/24 06:15 PM
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"Asshole" is a selling point in the RP/Manosphere power fantasy. For every "women are attracted to assholes" there are also a bunch of "I started being an asshole because it's works!" It's a selling tactic to lure in insecure people who view the world as a constant power struggle.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/24 06:20 PM

Because they aren't asking for "choreplay" like it's foreplay. It was never a seduction tool. That's bastardizing the request. They are asking you to do your chores so you can reduce the stress and resentment your partner is experiencing. That way they might feel relaxed enough to have sex because they'll have more free time. This feels almost deliberately obtuse istfg. Y'all can't be that dumb to think they want you to do chores sexually.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/24 07:59 PM
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Wow! Another new definition for gaslighting! They keep making more every day!! Apparently a gaslighter is anyone who disagrees with me or challenges my views! Because I'm never wrong! Totally not to be used the in such in a way to manipulate and stage my own position as the correct one by default, and a "I don't actually have to think in-depth or listen other people's arguments because I've preemptively disqualified them by clinging on this one nifty word!" card. Why even attempt to debate this …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/24 01:11 AM
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My guy, you cut off half his sentence and shifted the argument to make it say something you wanted him to say instead. Not an honest debate tactic.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/24 11:49 PM
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I like how this source is The Guardian, which cited a vague poll from an "insurance company," then you can click the citation and it goes to the Daily Mail. So it has an obscured trail to what it's actually referencing and no direct links to the poll. Interesting. I know you don't care about your own integrity or like intelligent arguments without your own bias, but accredited sources will mostly say that men and women lie at the same rate. However, men more likely tell black lies while women te…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/24 07:58 PM
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Not married, but we've talked about getting engaged soon. We do 60/40 on rent and split everything else (utilities, groceries, etc) 50/50. I typically work one less day than he does, but I pick up more chores than him because he works more and pays a little more rent.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/24 04:38 PM
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And the rest of us are supposed to take the opposite anecdote as fact and believe it isn't an outlier either? Wow. Very aware and unbiased of you. So meaningful.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/24 07:55 PM

This is conspiratorial thinking. Two things can be true at once. Sometimes there is no "one truth" and to believe as such is illogical and making half-baked assessments based on bias and emotional arguing. Some women, who are looking to date, may be dressing up to look attractive for men. That's fine. Others who aren't looking to date can be putting on sparkly neon eyeshadow, 5 inch nails, and purple hair because they like how it looks. Even when men repetitiously moan how much they don't like i…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/24 05:48 PM

Weird how suddenly you're a mind reader and know exactly what everyone is thinking.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/24 06:03 PM
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Funny how on this sub men will say all women secretly hate each other and have knives pointed at each other's throats in one post, yet also insist women can't think any woman is capable of horrid shit. Red pill is all inconsistent emotional arguing. If you look at the ONE study that everybody cites for female in-group bias, it criticizes itself that it doesn't properly explore all methodology to prove it's hypothesis. The sample size is limited to a certain, small demographic of young college ki…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/24 01:49 AM
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I mean I agree and I hate that games are painted in a bad light, but I don't get why men pretend like they don't also use tiktok and Instagram. Plus, you guys also scroll on PPD all day and act like it isn't social media too.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/23 06:55 PM

Telling women that they're all lying about their experiences and telling them how they really feel and think is literally the revenge fantasy dude. Somehow it's always telling them how they actually feel is always painting women as bad, jealous, or dumb. This rodeo has happened on this sub many times. "I don't like what women say about their experiences, so I'm going insert my own thoughts because they're automatically better because I'm smarter and omnipotent and so I get to say what is and isn…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/23 01:04 AM
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Which stats?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/23 10:08 PM
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Yeah, but getting attention and compliments is not the same as objectification. You're conflating sexualization with sexual objectification when they aren't the same thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/23 01:07 AM
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Yeah, I think the problem is that too many people here don't fully understand what sexual objectification is and conflate it with JUST being sexualized.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/23 01:01 AM
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Those are all dehumanization tactics that they do.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/23 08:04 PM
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You say that without even looking at the science either which doesn't really agree with you... https://findanexpert.unimelb.edu.au/news/4356-maternal-instinct-and-biology--evolution-ensures-we-want-sex--not-babies https://www.jstor.org/stable/20164128 https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2831352/ https://www.jstor.org/stable/3813418 https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2944661/ Saying everything you'd typically do is "biology" is a naturalistic fallacy. Having kids is what many p…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/23 07:30 PM
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Looks are a baseline. They are the floor, but not the ceiling. You'll still trip on your way up if you forget to tie your shoes or fall if your ladder is rusted and broken.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/23 08:11 PM
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No it doesn't. OP is just whining that life doesn't give him guarantees but is too risk adverse to accept that's just how life is. He's requesting a solution for something that never had definitive answer to and never will. Literally no one is saying someone giving you signals is a guarantee, but they are saying that's where your best chances usually lie. The flaw people like OP have is that they expect a participation trophy for trying and then whine when they experience life like everyone else…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/23 05:37 PM
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Different for everyone. I grew up in a household where I had to do most of the chores but my brother got to be lazy. I was also expected to get straight As while he could get Cs. Have a friend who has to help her parents pay rent, but her brother has a higher paying job and doesnt have to contribute anything. He also lives with them.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/23 12:12 AM
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It's just as improper to claim there is a gene though. You don't know if it actually exist either so why make the claim it does? It's not backed by anything. A Caretaker Gene is only a theory that will forever be researched without proper conclusions because we won't ever have the proper research conditions to determine if true. Some argue we'll never have the proper conditions because it's really difficult to have an experimental and control group on this particular topic. You can't raise a per…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/23 07:42 PM
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Half agree. Pay is associated more with audience and draw rather than performance and capability. When the pay in sports conversation was going on around in 2019, at that time the women's soccer world cup was drawing in a massive audience at similar rates to the men's cup. That's why when they were demanding more pay it was because the women's cup was getting paid much less in total of $150 million, compared to $440 million for men. The company was pocketing extra revenue and not paying fairly. …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/23 06:47 PM
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It's not missing the point they are countering it with another. The point of this commenter is that the premise of "what's worse" with shallow preferences is irrelevant if they're both still shallow desires I'm the end. Saying that one is easier to fix is deflecting that it's still shallow. It's not fixing any problems, but creating a pointless and endless pissing contest rather than addressing the actual point that shaming someone's height is bad. Both are bad and annoying, and it's fine to poi…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/23 05:38 PM
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It's not an apex fallacy if it's literally the discussion and what you asked for. You were asking about an apex sample, your answer is going to be an apex sample. Therefore, not a fallacy. You're incorrectly using a fallacy to move goalposts so you don't have address the response, however.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/23 11:58 PM
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Your article doesn't even talk about dismantling or banning fraternities. You only read the title and made assumptions. The article you linked talks about how historically fraternities in some universities have organized to attempt banning women from getting an education at all. Nothing about women wanting to join fraternities or dismantle them. Some fraternities went as far as actually having a "Hate women week " per your article. That is sexist no matter how you spin it. That was the sixties t…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/23 06:10 PM
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Observational bias. You're hypothesis is that women are going to lie so your going to find anything to conclude that to be so. In reality, it's incredibly egotistical and exemplary dunning kruger effect to say that you know other people better than themselves. You let your bias cloud your judgement and skew your observations. This makes you an unreliable narrator in your observations too. Especially since your data is a secondary source being yourself observing not participating. Also there is n…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/23 12:48 AM
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I think some guys here have an observation bias that they use to confirm and maintain their resentment. With the height thing, it might not matter to her specifically whether her partner is taller or shorter than her, but realistically the majority of men are taller than the majority of women. Height is a sexual diphormphic trait. If she was to date a lot of men in general, yes, the probably of her dating all tall men is much more likely than dating all men shorter than her. It's not her speakin…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/23 12:02 AM
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Personality does change as you age and continues for your whole life. https://www.apa.org/monitor/julaug03/personality The research also acknowledges that willingly changing your personality is not easy. It is still difficult to do and takes a lot of work. However, people who are motivated to change are more likely to do so. https://www.purdue.edu/stepstoleaps/explore/well-being-tips/2023_0116.php I don't think you're necessarily wrong that you can be accountable and recognize your circumstances…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/23 05:27 AM
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A blog post is not not a great resource for statistics. Look at the cited references. No direct links were provided to where they retrieved their information and one of their references is just Pinterest lol. Not even one mention of Tinder in the references. For all you know they are pulling numbers out of their ass.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/23 01:57 AM
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Love your response! I also think not having socialization from a large variety of people is a huge factor in as to why some men fall down the pill rabbit hole. It gets worse when a lot of them have had some misfortune in their lives and bad experiences they haven't healed from. The pill space offers a place for these guys to vent about their shared experiences, albeit rather in an unhealthy and unproductive way. A lot of these guys really need more kindness and friendship. Anecdotally, one of my…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/23 07:40 PM
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No. Men have agency. You choose who you approach. You have the initial choice. Dating and relationships are and will always a two-way-street/agreement between two people. Saying you don't have any choice as men is how the manosphere pushes men to have scapegoats and avoid accountability and responsibility for all their choices. Your options are who you ask and, in the end, it will never a guarantee everybody will want or like you. Being responsible and accountable is understanding that concept a…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/23 06:54 PM

Disco Elysium has huge female fan base. Assassin's Creed is also just poorly written historical fan fiction too idk why you think that's peak gaming. So much fart sniffing with you.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/23 11:38 PM
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False dichotomy argument.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/23 09:48 PM
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This isn't quite what the term "male gaze" means. "Male gaze" as a term refers to the way media presents women from a hetero male perspective. Usually in an overly sexual and sometimes objectified matter. However to answer what you're asking: I don't usually mind being looked at as long as his eyes don't linger too long or if they are more tact about it. Yes, I get uncomfortable if I'm starred at too long. This varies with context. If it's a stranger, just a glance is appropriate. If it's my boy…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/23 11:36 PM
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This is my relationship. I'm taller than average for a woman and my partner is shorter than average for a man. I'm 3 inches taller than him and we've been together for nearly a decade. From my anecdotal experience, I've had multiple men explicitly tell me they wanted to date me but thought I was too tall for them. My partner has definitely been harassed over his height before by both men and women, but I don't know to what extent for his past relationships. He's been in more than I have. In gene…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/23 11:54 PM
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I appreciate the vulnerability in your comment. I hope you can heal and surround yourself with loving and understanding people.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/23 05:25 PM
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Objective opinion is an oxymoron. Objective definition: "not influenced by personal feelings or opinions in considering and representing facts." Opinion definition: "a view or judgment formed about something, not necessarily based on fact or knowledge." You can't be objective about your opinions.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/23 04:45 PM
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And to be clear: the preference itself isn't hypocritical, it's the moral judgment.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/23 11:39 PM
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Dimorphic traits aren't behaviors. Promiscuity is a behavior. With your example, you could also say men are hypocritical that they want someone with a vagina because men have penises, but no one argues that. The premise that it's hypocritical doesn't align with the definition of hypocrisy: "the practice of claiming to have moral standards or beliefs to which one's own behavior does not" To make your example a hypocritical statement that works, it would be a 5'2" women saying it's bad to sleep wi…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/23 11:38 PM
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It is hypocrisy. These are behaviors both sexes can participate in. Therefore it is placing an arbitrary moral judgement and rules on women for something a man also can do based on a pseudo-intellectual bio essentialist belief and appeal to nature fallacy.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/23 10:52 PM
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What about wanting to make their fathers proud? I know men who want their father's approval too. Or their male peers. Or themselves. Saying it's only relates back women is very reductive to human psychology and, honestly, disrespectful to men as a whole. This view more likely stems from projecting personal low self-esteem onto others.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/23 06:48 PM
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