ayyeih-na-eloheykhem Archive

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1	Did we create the STEM gender gap in the USA by lowering expectations for females with the simple idea that males are better at it? And nerds aren't exactly the male vs. male stereotype or macho jocks that the 'more women in STEM' crowd wants them to be. Yeah, misogyny in STEM doesn't explain the gender gap in STEM. Christianity seems pretty damn misogynistic (women are made for men, women shouldn't be pastors etc.) if anything more misogynistic than STEM, so why are church congregations female-dominated? It must be because males are disposable even in God's eyes! :-P	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/04/14 04:28 PM
2	Did we create the STEM gender gap in the USA by lowering expectations for females with the simple idea that males are better at it? Most men do drudge work. Do boring work. For the entirety of mankind. Not by choice. As for child rearing, I'm going to go out on a limb and say that you know nothing about it, let alone what men/women think of it. Pray tell, what am I ignorant of?	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/04/14 11:16 PM
1	Did we create the STEM gender gap in the USA by lowering expectations for females with the simple idea that males are better at it? See my comment here: Women used to do much of computer programming (in the 40s). So I know it might not even be the case of different interests. The most promising biological theory IMO says it's about competition: Males are required to be more competitive than females. As females are pickier in their mate choice than males, much of a male's behavior will be dedicated to signalling his superiority to other males. Male humans are designed to compete with other males in order to attain social domi…	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/04/14 09:57 PM
1	Did we create the STEM gender gap in the USA by lowering expectations for females with the simple idea that males are better at it? Oh. Okay. Bogeymen got rid of it. Mainly the birth control.	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/04/14 06:51 PM
5	Did we create the STEM gender gap in the USA by lowering expectations for females with the simple idea that males are better at it? Also, biological differences causing different interests? It makes some sense, would it have been evolutionarily good for cavewomen to learn to be into guy stuff like hunting which they don't have the strength for? Or them to not like child rearing? Women used to do much of computer programming (in the 40s). So I know it might not even be the case of different interests. The most promising biological theory IMO says it's about competition: Males are required to be more competitive than females. …	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/04/14 06:00 PM
3	Did we create the STEM gender gap in the USA by lowering expectations for females with the simple idea that males are better at it? their schtick of girls can't do math/logic/spacial reasoning/etc Blatant straw man. Those arguing for biological differences would say that men and women are born to have different interests (not abilities).	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/04/14 05:32 PM
1	Did we create the STEM gender gap in the USA by lowering expectations for females with the simple idea that males are better at it? Also, salary is determined by the market. Not vague ideas of prestige. Well salary -> prestige. And the answer is, we're not as progressive as we think. Where's the evidence that the answer is MOAR progressivism (such as more progressive countries correlated with higher representation)? As opposed to girls just not being appealed by STEM. Also, are you Jewish (your reddit name). Stop stereotyping me! /s No.	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/04/14 03:19 AM
-1	Did we create the STEM gender gap in the USA by lowering expectations for females with the simple idea that males are better at it? Perhaps not "prestige", but I think the US is often considered the country most advanced in STEM. And perhaps boys/men, who are more inclined to compete to be the best, will be more likely to enter STEM fields in the US. And I think your prestige part is wrong as STEM fields tend to be high-paying and technologists are admired here. What I'm saying in the above is, if any STEM outreach to girls is successful, the outreach method or result will likely look very unfeminist.	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/04/14 02:38 AM
2	Did we create the STEM gender gap in the USA by lowering expectations for females with the simple idea that males are better at it? It's not a simple cultural problem tho, I think in countries where more women enter STEM, it's exactly because these fields are less prestigious and therefore men are comparatively less likely to be attracted to them. Culture or environment is just a bunch of dials, they don't generally write things on slates.	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/04/14 02:21 AM
1	Did we create the STEM gender gap in the USA by lowering expectations for females with the simple idea that males are better at it? since all negative traits are female traits He does say men are more greedy and corrupt. What are you gaining from arguing that gender-essentialists or whatever bogeymen are assigning negative traits only to women? Or from just yelling THEY JUST BE SEXIST STEREOTYPES	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/04/14 01:22 AM
0	Did we create the STEM gender gap in the USA by lowering expectations for females with the simple idea that males are better at it? Wouldn't it be nice to disambiguate "feministize" and "feminize"?	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/04/14 01:20 AM
2	Did we create the STEM gender gap in the USA by lowering expectations for females with the simple idea that males are better at it? You can't just zero in on any place you feel is failing and say "since all negative traits are female traits, IT MUST BE THE WOMEN". Have you even read the quoted excerpt? Easy, HuffPo, I know it's not causal, I am saying the reverse: that if some field keeps the trappings of power but loses actual power, women enter it in droves and men abandon it like the Roanoke Colony.	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/04/14 12:46 AM
1	Does a married man have a reasonable expectation of frequent sex? עַל-כֵּן יַעֲזָב-אִישׁ אֶת-אָבִיו וְאֶת-אִמּוֹ וְדָבַק בְּאִשְׁתּוֹ וְהָיוּ לְבָשָׂר אֶחָד (בראשית ב, כד) "Therefore shall a man leave his father and his mother, and shall cleave unto his wife: and they shall become one flesh." (Genesis 2:24)	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/04/14 11:12 PM
4	Male versus Female Characters in Movies/Literature/TV/ect Spot on, I would describe this as a form of translation convention (Yeah, I know we need a TVTropes link bot) applied to measurement of social status. You will also have noticed that even among a robust female cast, the higher-status or smarter or cooler a woman is supposed to be the more beautiful she will tend to be (with exceptions where this expectation is played with).	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/04/14 03:46 PM
2	So... explain to me why my moral code should include protecting other peoples' relationships they don't value? I'll concede that there is a way that "man's woman" differs from "man's wife" (but still, some languages conflate these into "man's woman"). However regardless of your opinion on the idea that men and women are possessed and how well that is reflected in language, I think it's mostly just that, how language reflects cognition, innate and socially learned. Language influencing cognition is a more limited thing (such as categorical perception and sensitivity to tense), and those arguing for the la…	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/04/14 04:24 PM
3	So... explain to me why my moral code should include protecting other peoples' relationships they don't value? Sigh, fine, lemme try again: Given both parties are accepted to be of equal animacy in a consensual relationship, the burden of proof is on you to show that the use of the possessive construction cause a drop in the animacy of the "possessed" person as perceived by the speakers and listeners. Here's my talking point: there are numerous counterexamples to this, most noticeably "dog's owner".	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/04/14 04:10 AM
4	So... explain to me why my moral code should include protecting other peoples' relationships they don't value? People who say things like this have never actually studied linguistics.	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/04/14 03:15 AM
5	So... explain to me why my moral code should include protecting other peoples' relationships they don't value? Lol, would you say the same thing about another woman's man ? It's common sense that so called "possessive" constructions do not always involve literal "ownership", lol. The company's employee = the cognitive metaphor EMPLOYEES ARE SLAVES?	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/04/14 03:11 AM
15	Good behavior is not rewarded Agreed... I always thought these kinds of absolutist (hypocritical of those who are against TRP totalism, and not to mention dangerously applicable to everyone that vaguely fits that descriptor), moralizing remarks about how nice guys who are rejected aren't really nice guys reek of the just world fallacy (as do some "nice guys"). Which you see everywhere in feminism and SJ-warrioring: it surely was the fault of the privileged hetero white men who were violent rapists, let's exact their deserved…	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/04/14 04:28 AM
1	Idealism Versus Pragmatism Also does a combination exuberant feminist platforms and their frustration a significant part of redpiller fodder? I definitely think so.	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/04/14 04:16 AM