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It was just natural. The idea of love and romance was appealing. The idea of bonding forever with a best friend was appealing. Sexual attraction was just there as a biological function. But as men continuously told me that all men are essentially incapable of genuine love and just want to fuck teen girls and don’t view women as people- the sexual attraction evaporated with the hopes of actually bonding with a man romantically. This sub basically tells us that men hate women. Men like the bodies …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/20 08:01 AM
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The women I know who are stay at home moms are so fucking miserable. They have no intellectual challenges, little adult interaction. They mindlessly mop the floors, clean shit off their kids asses, and vent about feeling suicidal in Facebook mommy groups. Women who work say they like working to get a break from their kids. I’m an extremely feminine woman who likes to keep a nice house. I enjoy it. I also fucking love my job and the prestige that comes with it and with my education. I feel useful…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/20 07:57 AM
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It’s secretly SEVERELY impaired my attraction to all men. I just assume a good chunk of men secretly hold these beliefs since I only encounter them on the internet, but they’re prevalent here. Redpill spaces have pretty much crushed my romantic and even sexual desire for men over the last decade and so I’ve invested a lot of time towards enriching my life in ways that don’t involve them. I invest heavily in my education and appearance but weirdly even though I’m in my late 20’s and therefor near…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/20 07:29 AM
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Dude, come on. I was somewhat with you until you got into “one sex is regarded as superior” and the movie remakes. Key word “remakes”. Because the leading characters in media have traditionally been men. An all-male cast isn’t seen as abnormal, but notice that you take offense to an all-female cast? Why are there commercials on female empowerment? Literally it’s been in many of our or our parent’s lifetimes that women were discouraged from pursuing an education or any position of power. Look at …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/20 12:05 AM
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Having sex with an unattractive woman isn’t the same. It’s not going to feel so violating. Having someone inside of you, and in control, is an experience that makes sex for women fundamentally SO different than sex for men. I’d say the closest women can get to how men feel is using a double sided dildo to fuck him in the ass. Being in control and being the one “entering” is an entirely different experience. I cannot stress that enough. How about this: a woman you’re repulsed by sticking a giant …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/20 11:45 PM
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I don’t hate men in “real life”. I’ve been severely wronged by a few, but the majority have treated me well. That being said, the representation of men on the internet is so overwhelmingly fucking appalling that I must question if that is who most, or many, men are “deep down”. Especially in spaces where they don’t believe they are being observed by women. In male-dominated spaces, redpill and otherwise, I’ve come to the conclusion that women could never, ever hate men to the degree that men hat…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/20 11:20 PM
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Sasha Gray is the exception, not the norm. You must not be female. It sounds like the women around you don’t talk like they talk among women. The things women divulge to men are very different than the things that women divulge to each other. I guarantee you that being gay for pay is how appealing these women find being fucked by some rando. I very rarely see attractive men in porn aimed to men. Being a stripper or onlyfans girl is worlds away from being a porn star or prostitute. Every woman I …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/20 11:13 PM
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Ever watched an after-porn interview? Do you know girls who do porn? I do. They have as much trauma as someone who was raped. At 18 and still in high school they have no fucking clue what they’re doing. If a gross old man is fucking you violently and choking and slapping you in front of an audience when you never would’ve consented to sex otherwise, tossing money on you afterwards only makes it so much “better”. They aren’t in porn because it’s fun. They’re in it because they believe it’s the on…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/20 10:15 PM
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You don’t get that incels have a ludicrously warped sense of what is “average”. When I see looksmatch threads they’re posting gamergirl Instagram models. They have no fucking clue what average is. What you call “ugly” is what average actually is. And no, incels don’t get sympathy. I don’t see many ugly women wanting to off themselves or shoot up a school because she has to be with fat or short dudes on her level.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/20 10:11 PM
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Dude...go outside. Look at your neighbors, coworkers, and people on the street. Most people are not that good looking. Most people are also in relationships. Most people are in relationships with their looksmatch. Look around you. Ugly dudes are with ugly women. What you guys don’t want to accept is that women considered “ugly” are almost always chubby or fat. And you think because you yourself are not fat that you are out of a fat girl’s league. You aren’t. That is your league. Most below avera…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/20 09:39 PM
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No they wouldn’t. I’ve yet to see any incel or RP men say that they’d go for a fat girl. Fat girls are at the bottom of the barrel and if that’s where you yourself lie, then that’s who you can get. Men don’t want to accept this.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/20 09:33 PM
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Men and woman find very different things attractive. If you can’t attract a thin woman if that TRULY is your only standard, then sorry to break it to you, yes, your standards are too high. For your standards to be too high to even attract just a thin woman you yourself must be less than just physically unattractive. You have to have some major personality defects. This is where RP and incel men damn themselves. They’re angry they can’t get girls they find hot and so they flock to the internet, g…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/20 09:32 PM
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Do you even know any ugly couples in real life? The majority of ugly people aren’t fuming about on the internet because they can’t land a model. They have other distractions. They are genuinely happy. You think the only people who ever are truly happy are the super hot who fuck each other from 15-35 and then after they start getting less hot with age they should fall into deep depression? Do you really lack that much insight to see that the majority of people are complex and multifaceted? It is …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/20 09:27 PM
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WHAT YOU PERCEIVE AS AN AVERAGE WOMAN IS IN FACT ABOVE AVERAGE AND WHAT YOU PERCEIVE AN AS AVERAGE MAN IS IN FACT BELOW AVERAGE. I see it constantly on RP subs. You rate a man a 7 who women would rate a 4.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/20 09:21 PM
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No. Men in general have a totally warped sense of what “average” is. Men who are unattractive are fancying themselves as “average” and the girls that they label “average” are many leagues above them. This is why they continuously get rejected and believe average girls are all chasing Chad. It’s because the girls they think are average are above average and can GET Chad, and they themselves can’t accept that they are below average. The “average” man does not have that much trouble getting a girl …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/20 09:18 PM
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What they perceive as their looksmatch is SO incredibly off it’s absurd. They have such a warped perception of what “average” is. They overrate themselves and underrate women. They lost my sympathy when I realized it’s not that they can’t get women to fuck them...it’s that they can’t get hot women to fuck them. And not just hot, but also pure. Some of them have the delusion that once they reach 45 and finally have some cash that a 22 year old virgin model is going to bow at their feet and love t…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/20 09:16 PM
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That’s true, but in the context of comparing men’s and women’s issues, it needs to be acknowledged that reasons that men hate women and reasons women hate men are just not comparable. If you want to talk suicide rates, then yes, I agree- it’s an issue and there are issues specific to men contributing to it- being expected to be the provider, being discouraged from expressing weakness, etc. This is a valid men’s issue. Hot girls not sleeping with you is not a valid issue. I don’t pay much mind to…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/20 04:57 PM
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But that’s the thing. When you ask a man why he hates women, the answer is “because they won’t fuck me.” When a woman hates men, it’s almost always due to some trauma of being molested as a kid, being sexually assaulted, being abused, being threatened, etc. That’s why women don’t take men’s mental health when in relation to rejection seriously. Men’s bruised egos cannot be compared to women’s bruised bodies. Men also severely underestimate how common it is for women to have been assaulted. If yo…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/20 04:22 PM
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I would say that in normal, healthy interactions, a fat woman doesn’t say to a short man “I don’t like short men” and a short man doesn’t say to a fat woman “I don’t like fat women”. Having preferences is fine, but it strikes me as painfully immature to have a face to face conversation with another adult that goes “I don’t find you attractive” “I don’t find you attractive either”. While she instigated it, I don’t think this is normal “womanly” behavior. I also think most men would be similarly o…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/20 04:01 PM
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Sure, but most women aren’t emotional to the degree of crying over an ice cream, even on their period. But let’s say, when hormonal, women are overly emotional when compared to men. This is true. While it may not be as extreme as crying over an ice cream, it can manifest in moodiness. Similarly, while most men aren’t committing crimes, most men do have issues with anger and aggression when compared to women. This isn’t labeled as “emotional” or “hormonal” as female behaviors are, but really, it …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/20 03:40 PM
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That’s...not normal. Though if we’re basing judgments of the entire sex on the traits of say, 5-10% (which is fair if those behaviors are exclusive to that sex, as crying over sillier things may be for women in hormonal states) I’d rather be a part of the group that cries too easily than part of the group that rapes, murders, beats, and molests. Better to not be able to control your crying than to not be able to control your rage.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/20 03:31 PM
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The porn they watch contributes to my hatred, too. Girls who look about 14-17 with underdeveloped bodies labeled as “teens” or “barely legal” in little-girl pigtails and frilly socks, in a middle schooler’s bedroom. Then the “step dad” barges in and she’s sobbing and choking and humiliated. Makes me fucking sick. I don’t trust any man over 25 who’s into “teens”. I imagine him getting off to images of 16 year old girls being molested.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/20 03:15 PM
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I don’t hate men, per say. I hate the archetype of “man”. I absolutely abhor the archetype of man particularly in far-right spaces such as the manosphere. There are traits almost exclusive to men (as in, not that “all men” possess them, but that virtually only men possess them) such as pedophilia, rape, murder, violent crime in general, and so on, that also contribute to my hatred of “man”. In real life, this doesn’t really manifest. I think because my experience with men in real life is at such…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/20 03:10 PM
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If you don’t understand how people can rationalize teens/early 20’s as childlike, you are 100% in that bracket, or yes, an ephebophile.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/20 04:56 PM
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Eh. Nerdier girls in my experience don’t have high N’s. But best bet is a girl who’s from a religious or traditional family. Even if she’s not religious herself, girl’s who aren’t allowed to “date” but pursue higher education may even be virgins through their 20’s. I’d say a 9/10 23 year old is going to have a higher n count than a shy, traditional 30 year old pediatrician. Yes, you can order an 18 year old virgin from the Philippines, but just because she hasn’t had sex doesn’t mean she’s yours…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/20 04:24 PM
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What about a woman who’s in your league? Your age who also had trouble dating when she was younger so she’s inexperienced with men as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/20 04:02 PM
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Attractive girl in her early 20’s: I’m not sure, really. I tie very little worth to how many men want to have sex with me, since even bottom of the barrel girls have no shortage of men wanting to have sex with them. I put in a LOT of effort into my appearance. It started as sort of a revenge fantasy after girls made fun of how I looked in grade school. I became an attractive adult and modeled which felt good. But I’m also a loner by nature and don’t place a lot of value on having a partner. I al…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/20 06:57 PM
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Jesus RP are sinking further and further into absurdity. “A woman asking me to pick my socks off of the floor is a shit test! She’s trying to dominate me! Must resist!” That’s straight up mental illness.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/20 10:00 PM
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But OP isn’t targeting rich men. Further, there is no universe in which a BMI of 21 is fat. Or even chubby. It’s the BMI of a slim, athletic woman. It’s like calling a dude over 6 ft+ “short”. It comes off as almost satirical because it’s just so absurd. My suspicion is that it’s just a tool to make OP feel self conscious because there’s nothing this sub hates more than a woman who thinks she’s a catch.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/20 06:09 PM
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Hm, this seems to be based off of the same study, or one with near identical results as the first. Basically, either sleep with no one but your partner and have a happier marriage, or sleep with one person more or many people more- doesn’t matter much, marriage will be less happy. I’d say that may be a commentary on the marriages of highly religious people. I think deeply religious people are happier in general, and probably have more traditional marriages which are probably happier. I’d say the…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/20 11:30 PM
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Now the other article sounds interesting, I’d like to see that one if you ever find it. Would probably be a better argument for high n count being a definite negative in marriages than divorce since you can remove the confounds of culture surrounding divorce
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/20 10:43 PM
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I interpreted the 1 as being “1 partner prior to marriage” and 0 being “0 partners prior to marriage”. Not 0 as in “0 partners aside from spouse”. That’s why there’s such a big jump from 1 to 2, because it appears as if people with low divorce rates are either not sleeping with their partner prior to marriage, or are sleeping only with their partner prior to marriage. In other words, people likely to be highly religious. Then you see a jump when the religious rule of a single partner is thrown o…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/20 10:25 PM
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As in, most likely the 1 person you marry. Someone who has premarital sex once with someone but not with the person they’re going to marry doesn’t make sense. Again, it’s the highly religious. And 2 isn’t an outlier. Too many people who took stats 101 in college think they know how to interpret the numbers and totally miss the mark.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/20 09:48 PM
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No...you’re not interpreting the stats correctly. What this is essentially saying is that having between 3-9 partners puts you in the lowest bracket in getting divorced if you’re going to be sleeping with anyone other than your future spouse at all. 3-9 partners is a huge range and the range in which most women will fall. The reason why 0 is so low is because people who don’t believe in premarital sex are more likely to be religious. After that, you’re virtually just as well off sleeping with 2 …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/20 09:20 PM
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Someone with a body count of 0-1 before marriage is either highly religious or highly unattractive. Both of which are much less likely to divorce. It’s absurd to argue that age isn’t a good indicator of divorce. It makes logical sense that two kids at 21, with little life experience or self development, are going to grow into different people as they mature. Two people at 30 who have settled into concrete senses of selves are going to be much better at selecting a partner. It drops again in age …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/20 09:12 PM
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I love how RP men will say “a woman just needs to be young and not fat!” And now an active girl with a BMI of 21.63 (healthy ranging from 19-25) is “too fat”. This is why no one has sympathy for men when they complain that women won’t date them because they’re short.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/20 02:58 AM
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Lmao...what? That can be a size 2-6. When I was 110 at 5’7 my hair was falling out and I was hospitalized and my bones were jutting out.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/20 02:55 AM
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If you’re not a weak beta, why are you so passionate about insisting such? People who are secure don’t give a fuck.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/20 09:06 PM
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Hahahaha because alpha men aren’t on this sub. You’re obviously insecure enough to be butthurt, and therefor not alpha. You cared enough to comment. Care enough to obsess over RP because you aren’t that way naturally. The constant bitching from RP men of “wE dOnT cArE aBoUt WoMeN” sure seems like you care. A lot.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/20 09:02 PM
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See that bitterness? No secure, successful, attractive man is bitter about women. Why would he be?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/20 08:42 PM
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MGTOW bitch a LOT about women for men who claim not to give a shit about women.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/20 08:39 PM
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What about statistics that show age gaps in marriages are more likely to lead to divorce? You’re advising 35 year old men to marry 25 year old women, but the stats don’t show that that produces success in comparison to same-age partners. Women in their 20’s are only going to choose to partner up with an aging man over a better looking man her age due to the supplement with money and stability. If you wait till your 30’s to marry women in their 20’s, you’re purchasing her and she’s more likely to…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/20 07:30 PM
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What about women who are 30 and just out of med school or some similar pursuit and were never party whores? In my culture, men and women on average don’t marry before 30. People are chasing big dreams and settle down after, but this doesn’t mean they were out fucking randoms. Smart/nerdy women will typically date the same sort of beta/nerdy dudes in their 20’s and settle down with the same sort of dude at 30. What’s wrong with that?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/20 07:28 PM
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Jealous of: I’ve gotten paid for my looks through modeling. Does it make sense: yes and no. On one hand, this didn’t come for free. I’ve had cosmetic procedures, been on starvation diets, had to learn how to look good and put effort into looking good. Men could do the same but often don’t. That being said, there’s less stigma for women to get plastic surgery or spend a lot of time on their appearance.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/20 07:20 PM
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Women need to see threads like this. I think way, way more women would abort after birth control failure if they knew they were the shit on society’s shoe.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/20 07:18 PM
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That’s not what that means. Though it’s interesting to note that stepmoms and women who date dads are never accused of being cucks/the female equivalent. Why?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/20 07:15 PM
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Virtually none of this sub. True alphas don’t waste time raging and obsessing over women, because they aren’t threatened by women. What 95% of the men on this sub do is a sort of red pill performance. It’s theatrical. If you’re going to the gym, constantly fucking hot women for free, are successful, have a multitude of hobbies, etc., you’re not going to be so insecure that you’d even be on this sub.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/20 07:13 PM
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Yep. Redpill men and incels are obsessed with underage girls. All they talk about is how girls over 22 or 24 or whatever it is now are gross. They jerk it to anime characters made to look like 12 year olds with tits. I don’t trust men after discovering Reddit.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy13/04/20 07:07 PM
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I personally tense my vag muscles in spurts like they would during an orgasm when I’m faking it.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/20 02:51 AM
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I’d sooner trust hundreds of women than one man on how often women orgasm lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/20 12:00 AM
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Study by University of North Lancashire revealed that 80% of women fake it regularly. A study at U of Bloomington revealed 75% of women don’t orgasm from penetrative sex. Statistically, when you’re having sex with a woman (not oral, for which the exact stats I can’t recall- I think about 50% of sexually active women have orgasmed from oral at least once was the number) she’s probably not actually orgasming. The biggest disservice porn has done to society is leading men to believe jamming their d…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/20 11:52 PM
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But how do you know they aren’t faking it when virtually every woman has faked it at least once and a high number fake it every single time? There’s absolutely no way to know. All you can go off of are the anonymous self-report studies.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/20 11:18 PM
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Yep. Exactly that. So many young girls go off to college and fuck random frat boys because the boys are pretty and tumblr-feminism tells them it’s empowering to “reclaim sex”. Those girls may find attention from pretty boys validating, but they sure as hell don’t love having some whiskey limp flesh rod jammed in and out, pounding their dry cervix. They leave immediately after he finishes, feeling shitty but tell themselves that the shitty feeling is internalized misogyny. No it isn’t. Sex just i…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/20 11:16 PM
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Nah. Look at the statistics. It’s something like 80% of women don’t orgasm from penetrative sex. With oral it’s a little higher but still most men don’t know how to give it very well, and sex toys can do so much more than a dick or tongue ever could. Attraction has little to do with it. A woman can be aroused, but arousal doesn’t equal pleasure. The stats on how often women fake it are also extraordinarily high. We don’t like to hurt the man’s feelings and also will fake an orgasm so it’s all ov…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/20 11:12 PM
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Depends if the woman actually enjoys the casual sex. I have a sneaking suspicion that most don’t. Just statistically, most women don’t orgasm from sex with men very often. I can pleasure myself 10 fold with a toy than a man could pleasure me. I think casual sex for women is more about validation, so for those girls who do it because they have low self-esteem, yeah, they’re betas.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/20 09:23 PM
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Yes. Essentially, make yourself as valuable as possible. Probably most importantly is be as hot as possible. Growing up, I was like you. Submissive, plain, and lacking confidence. There are so many tools for women to look better. I went pretty extreme and chose plastic surgery, becoming an expert at makeup and hair, and basically copying what Instagram models do to look good (be slim, work out, do your hair and makeup like they do, dress like they do). Once I was hot, everyone started noticing m…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/20 09:18 PM
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Bothered enough to comment and fling insults but not contribute anything to the conversation ¯_(ツ)_/¯
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/20 03:18 PM
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Ah, so the post has you angry enough to comment and insult me personally, but you still can’t contribute to the debate as hundreds have been able to do here so far without issue. Weak.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/20 03:15 PM
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Thanks for such an insightful comment that really contributes to the debate. You going to complain or actually add something of substance?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/20 03:05 PM
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Haha WHAT! Leo?! Everyone talks about what a creep he is. He gets models because of his status. I know NO young girls under 25 who find him particularly attractive. He’s gross. It’s 35+ who remember him as a young guy in titanic that are into him.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/20 04:45 PM
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Okay so, if there was a large market where old women were paying young men to cam, do you think that most men would take advantage of this? And if so, why do you think RP men have such a disgust for women who do this if most of them would do the same if they had the opportunity?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/20 02:08 AM
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A good looking 20 year old man is not going to have issues banging girls at college. Now you can make the argument that you have to be a better looking man to be paid for sex than a girl has to be attractive to be paid for it. But, ultimately, if RP philosophy places importance on being extremely attractive, why are RP men who are attractive not attempting to get paid for camming? If you hate lumping unattractive female buyers and male buyers together- let’s say all the man would have to do is p…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/20 01:57 AM
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Interesting perspective. I’ve met a few men in my life with similar sexual preferences but it seemed to manifest in wanting to be submissive, and finding pleasure/fun in girly things like fashion. But I wouldn’t guess this makes up a large percentage of RP men
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/20 01:53 AM
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They can have great sex from the man’s perspective. I PROMISE you that the girls right out of high school you crave so badly are faking it for money, security, or status. Women, according to studies, want to fuck men their own age. When young women talk about wanting “older men”, they’re talking about a 25 year old when they’re 20. Not a 45 year old like RP men like to delude themselves into thinking.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/20 01:50 AM
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I’m slim and under 25 lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/20 01:49 AM
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In the context of who’s purchasing sex and from whom? It’s the same. Old straight men pay for young women. Old gay men pay for young men.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/20 01:45 AM
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I don’t consider myself bisexual. The thought of having sex with a partner I’m attracted to: turns me on. The thought of having sex with an attractive woman: does nothing for me. The thought of having sex with an unattractive man: does nothing for me. The thought of having sex with an unattractive woman: does nothing for me. That doesn’t sound bi to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/20 01:43 AM
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But I thought a major RP argument is that women are repulsive after 30-35 and either gross or essentially sexless? What’s the difference between a gross woman and a gross man? I would have no preference in selling my body to a man or woman if they were both very unattractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/20 01:39 AM
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You may, but I thought one of the biggest arguments in redpill is that women are unfuckable after 30-35 and their lives mostly suck
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/20 01:38 AM
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I don’t think the majority of young men would want to show an unattractive old woman every nook and cranny of his body for money while being paid to spew whatever sort of nonsense that got her off sexually.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/20 01:37 AM
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I have never seen a woman under 25 rave about Jason Statham. But let’s say that you’re right and young women are attracted to older celebrity men. What percentage of old men look like celebrities? A lot of RP men talk about as long as you stay in shape you’ll be attractive to very young girls at any age...this is just...not true. You have to be in the top 1% facially AND have a very good body to attractive any very very young women.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/20 01:35 AM
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It is easy to get sex as a gay man. It’s harder to get sex from a 20 year old boy as a 45 year old man without offering something in return. Just like it’s harder for a 45 year old man to get sex with a 20 year old girl when he’s competing with 20-25 year old men.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/20 01:30 AM
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Both men and women like youth. Men like it more so. Men like slim. Women like tall. I’m not kink shaming, I’m simply explaining that no matter how tall, a teen girl does not get enjoyment out of masturbating for a man that could be her father. She has posters of boyband members on her bedroom walls, not of 45 year old Jerry the banker down the street. This is to illustrate that neither men nor women WANT to be sexually exploiting themselves for old men.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/20 01:29 AM
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Yeah, I just imagine it’d cause a lot of anxiety, would feel dirty and violating, and is ultimately difficult to capture an audience and not fun and easy like I see it described on RP
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/20 01:26 AM
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If the advantage isn’t major, and women only have a slight advantage for a very, very brief period of their lives, why is it something that so many redpill men are very angry about? As if they’ve been cheated for not having an advantage for their ENTIRE life and have to let women have it for 1/9th of their lifespan
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/20 01:25 AM
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This is true, but Salma Hayeks and Bradley Coopers are VERY rare. And even so, I doubt many people would feel great about showing Salma Hayek or Bradley Cooper the inside of their butthole for money- especially on camera where it could be shared and especially with all the stigma.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/20 01:23 AM
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Hm. Interesting. I think RP is becoming more diverse so you have different camps. I see a LOT of sex work hate usually though.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/20 01:20 AM
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This is a good point. Thanks.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/20 01:20 AM
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Oh gay men are DEFINITELY willing to pay for sex. There is a massive market for male camwhores. It’s not as big as the market for female, but it’s there, and I never hear about redpill men attempting to break into it.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/20 01:19 AM
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There’s a study that redpill men love to cite that state men are mostly attracted to the youngest girls. The same study shows that girls are attracted to men their age (until like 35 and then they’re more attracted to younger men). Attraction aside, look at any post-porn video and virtually every porn star talks about how horrible it is. I think the vast majority of women know what I’m talking about without pause.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/20 01:18 AM
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This is what I’m curious about. I think in incel-dominated redpill spaces the consensus is that being a woman is easier/better and they wouldn’t mind being born as one. But in non-incel dominated forums it seems to be the opposite.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/20 01:16 AM
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Okay, this is a good explanation. Good point.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/20 01:15 AM
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So if you think that if the opportunity were there for most men to receive money from old women looking for a boytoy, why do redpill men usually hate sex workers? If they themselves would do the same thing?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/20 01:14 AM
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They don’t. Promise. There are only a very small handful of people <25 attracted to people >40. And even if they ARE attracted to old men, they don’t want to be humiliating and degrading themselves for said man for some cash. Women barely enjoy masturbating on camera for their own partners who they have a romantic and sexual attraction to. Probably due to porn acting, men think women enjoy showing their butthole to thousands of strangers. Watch some interviews...they definitely don’t.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/20 01:12 AM
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But I’m not envious of a cat or a spoiled brat and spend very little of my time thinking about them. If redpill men truly think of themselves as vastly superior, why are they concerned with women at all? Why do they spend so much time and effort into talking about women and raging about women? Redpill forums are SO dedicated to women. If women are just simple, stupid, spoiled creatures- why pay them any mind? You don’t see well-adjusted, secure, happy, successful people obsess over poor people w…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/20 01:10 AM
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If they were smarter and better, why isn’t their life easier? If having a vagina- aka having easier access to resources due to sex- is what makes life so easy, then again, why aren’t straight men using those smarts to make money from gay men who are willing to pay them for sex?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/20 01:08 AM
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Right but a teenage straight girl is no more attracted to a 40 year old straight man than a man is attracted to another man.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/20 01:06 AM
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Can you elaborate?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/20 12:59 AM
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I don’t get it either. They always talk about how sex work is so easy but then act horrified if you suggest they play with their ass on camera for a bunch of horny old men. Gay men seem to sugar baby at comparable rates to women, which tells me that it’s less about “men innately have more morals” are more about a lack of market for men or just being too scared to do it because it’s not easy and actually violating. For older women who seek pay-for-play boytoys, there never seems to be a shortage …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/20 12:52 AM
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Are you going to contribute anything more than that? Would you rather be a woman or a man? Why?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/20 12:46 AM
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I don’t think most men have even the slightest idea just how much of a woman’s time is spent learning how to be attractive, from elementary school and onwards. Parents teach little girls to be “ladylike”. Little girls have fashion dolls and play-makeup and hair styling dolls to practice on. Then in 4th grade they start reading preteen magazines. They spend SO much time reading about “best clothes for your body type” “best haircut for your face shape” etc. They are taught that the most important …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/20 12:43 AM
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Women don’t want to fuck the same aging face and body either. No one does. Which is why more and more people are choosing not to marry at all. However there’s yet to be a replacement for romantic companionship or love. MGTOW and cat women like to pretend that it doesn’t exist anyway, but it would seem as though most people see it as worth the sacrifices. Spiritual loneliness will cause people to crave emotionally intimate companionship. Probably until the end of time. That’s why MGTOW and spinst…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/20 08:08 PM
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But you aren’t acknowledging that the same can be said of housework. If living in a clean home is just miserable if you have to contribute, then by all means, live in a poor-looking poorly-cleaned bachelor pad as many young men do. It’s just ironic that you’re advocating that men buy prostitutes, work full time, and clean full time to avoid letting women get away with earning less money. You’ll just be doing more work in the end on the basis of what? Pride? Because you’re assuming someone you lo…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/20 07:37 PM
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I have no plans to. But can’t the same be said for the housework? No one’s forcing you to vacuum, ifnotberniethentrump. But you’re complaining about expectations. In part, there’s been a movement to lessen the homemaking expectations on women because the vast majority of women are having children and that wasn’t taken into account. Man: works 40 hour weeks at a higher stress job, does 50% of household chores, reads to the kids before bedtime Women: works 40 hour weeks and earns less, does 50% of…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/20 07:17 PM
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Isn’t it more that now men and women are both expected to work and do chores at home? Your argument is that men are expected to earn more while women aren’t expected to do as much chores around the house. However, in my circles, it’s common for the woman to out-earn the man and the man isn’t looked down upon. As long as both are working similar hours, it doesn’t matter. In circles that are more traditional where the man IS expected to be the breadwinner, wouldn’t those circles also be traditiona…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/20 07:04 PM
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Oh this is so melodramatic. Both partners typically work. So if the man out-earns the woman or works more overtime, him being expected to do the dishes or mow the lawn is...slavery? When you live by yourself, you have to do ALL the homemaking and breadwinning anyway. Is that slavery? You’re talking as if unemployed, childless women are sitting about at home on the couch, doing fuck all while a man is out earning a living. I don’t know of any dynamic like that. Women are still going to take on th…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/20 06:41 PM
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Look around you. The majority of people, even those that are not societally “desirable” find a partner, and seem pretty happy. The average person is not very attractive yet they’re able to find a mate, have a family, and so on. I think the most major issue with red pilled men is that they overestimate their own value and then get angry because they think they’re being cheated. They want a beautiful virgin teenager to love them unconditionally no matter what THEY bring to the table. If their stan…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/20 12:19 PM
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That’s the issue, isn’t it? What these debates end up boiling down to are Redpillers: men are attracted most to school-aged girls, ephebophilia is the natural way of things, no one wants to touch a woman after 30 Women: women really just aren’t attracted to 80% of men at all Then we all just come to the conclusion that it isn’t worth interacting with each other, really.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/20 06:03 AM
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Oh god if I had a penny every time a man said “but MUH BIOLOGY” trying to justify that 13 year old girls are most fertile and it was normal for 30 year old men to marry them in medieval times...no it wasn’t lmfao. incoming neckbeard: “durr teChnicAlLy iTs ePheBoPhiLia”
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy30/03/20 12:44 AM
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